This Past Weekend with Theo Von - October 10, 2024


E537 Miranda Lambert


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 23 minutes

Words per Minute

210.58777

Word Count

17,674

Sentence Count

1,945

Misogynist Sentences

58

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

Grammy Award Winning Country Music Musician Miranda Lambert joins me to talk about her new album, Postcards From Texas, and how she met her husband, a retired New York City Police Officer, on an Air Canada flight.


Transcript

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00:01:03.200 Today's guest is a Grammy Award winning country musician.
00:01:06.640 She has a new album called Postcards from Texas.
00:01:10.720 And you know her songs, The House That Built Me, Drunk, January Heart, The List Goes On, Red Wagon.
00:01:21.420 I'm really grateful today to get to spend time with one of the queens of the country music industry, Miss Miranda Lambert.
00:01:30.120 Nice to see you today, Miranda Lambert.
00:01:59.000 Hello.
00:01:59.880 It's an honor.
00:02:01.040 Thanks for having me.
00:02:02.080 Yeah.
00:02:02.500 It's a cozy little place.
00:02:03.580 It's a pleasure.
00:02:04.300 Yeah, yeah.
00:02:04.820 We try to keep it cozy.
00:02:07.360 It's nice.
00:02:07.860 Kind of get to, you know, just catch up with folks and see what's going on.
00:02:12.360 I've met your husband a couple times.
00:02:15.020 Yeah.
00:02:15.320 He said that.
00:02:16.060 Y'all randomly on like two or three planes together.
00:02:18.460 Yeah.
00:02:19.060 We're like kind of, I guess, air buddies or whatever.
00:02:21.460 I don't know if there's a term for it or whatever.
00:02:23.140 I love that.
00:02:23.980 Yeah.
00:02:24.240 He said to tell you how.
00:02:25.140 Oh, I appreciate it.
00:02:26.040 He's golfing priorities.
00:02:27.560 Yeah.
00:02:28.240 Yeah.
00:02:28.780 Well, he's just dang handsome, too.
00:02:30.420 That's a thing.
00:02:31.140 I see that guy and I'm like, God, I got to get some conditioner or whatever.
00:02:35.620 He is.
00:02:36.180 He's a pretty one.
00:02:37.660 God, he is.
00:02:38.360 He's like a, and he used to be a cop, right?
00:02:40.700 Yep.
00:02:40.980 He's a retired NYPD officer.
00:02:43.520 And did you, you guys ever play cops and robbers or anything like that?
00:02:47.020 No, but last year or two years ago for Halloween, I got, I wore his uniform and I made him be
00:02:51.720 a donut and it was awesome because he's super fit and doesn't even eat donuts.
00:02:57.180 And I was like, I'm going to be a cop and you're going to be a donut.
00:02:59.580 And he was like, that's just cliche.
00:03:00.660 That's stupid.
00:03:01.340 I was like, no, it's awesome.
00:03:03.340 It was my favorite.
00:03:04.260 That's a great idea.
00:03:04.680 He was pouting the whole time.
00:03:05.940 He was like, I don't want to be a donut.
00:03:07.040 Dude, everybody wants to be a donut, bro.
00:03:11.840 I couldn't even imagine not wanting to be a donut.
00:03:14.500 Yeah.
00:03:14.820 I think everybody's always just wanted to sit in a box with 11 of their buddies, you know?
00:03:21.100 Well, it's funny because that whole like cliche or whatever, but I was like, and I was worried
00:03:25.580 I wouldn't fit in his uniform, but I did.
00:03:27.180 Oh yeah.
00:03:27.800 I was like, I can't fit in his uniform.
00:03:29.100 We have bigger issues.
00:03:29.960 Like, it's going to be a problem.
00:03:31.300 Yeah.
00:03:32.060 It was fun.
00:03:32.540 My dad, my whole family is first responders and so is his family.
00:03:36.160 So we had that in common right away.
00:03:37.880 Oh, sweet.
00:03:38.700 Yep.
00:03:38.920 Yeah.
00:03:39.100 Did you guys ever, has he ever like tased you or anything like that?
00:03:41.460 Or is that a crazy thing?
00:03:42.600 No, no.
00:03:43.520 And he has handcuffs and I'm like, that would be the one time that the key was gone.
00:03:48.800 Yeah.
00:03:48.980 Like we're not ever doing that.
00:03:51.080 Never.
00:03:51.820 It's not going to happen.
00:03:53.820 Yeah.
00:03:54.180 We got tased one time.
00:03:56.220 Oh, if you're ever in Shreveport or whatever, and you're, I guess, have some free time or whatever,
00:04:01.120 they will, they'll tase you there.
00:04:03.200 The officers there.
00:04:04.500 For fun?
00:04:05.340 Yeah.
00:04:05.740 For, yeah, for, there's not a lot to do there, I guess.
00:04:08.520 And, but yeah, they'll do it.
00:04:10.020 I grew up like, right, like an hour from Shreveport.
00:04:12.400 Oh, you did?
00:04:12.940 Yeah.
00:04:13.300 I used to play over there in little bars and casinos coming up.
00:04:17.600 I actually had my 21st birthday in Shreveport.
00:04:19.800 No.
00:04:20.580 That's pretty red.
00:04:21.780 Where did you, where'd you guys go?
00:04:22.920 We had to a casino?
00:04:23.940 Yeah.
00:04:24.380 We were at Sam's Town, I think.
00:04:26.640 My grandma was a VIP there because she spends a lot of money on the slots.
00:04:29.740 So she got the limo and all that, and I went with my grandma and her friends for my 21st
00:04:34.520 birthday.
00:04:34.940 And her friends?
00:04:35.860 Her friends.
00:04:36.480 They're wild, though.
00:04:37.440 Yeah.
00:04:37.760 They were wild.
00:04:38.940 Oh, yeah.
00:04:39.360 A lot of these seniors now, you can't, well, you see them in the pools and everything,
00:04:42.700 and they have those weights, and they're just doing it all.
00:04:45.720 Every time I see seniors, they're just getting crazier and crazier.
00:04:48.440 Do they have a senior citizen dating website, I wonder?
00:04:51.240 I don't know, but my granddad would just give her, like, allowance, like, stay out of my
00:04:56.480 hair money, and so she would just go blow it at the casino.
00:04:58.860 It was the best.
00:05:00.220 Was she one of those grandmas that, like, at the end of the year, they buy all the Christmas
00:05:04.340 gifts?
00:05:04.800 Oh, yeah.
00:05:05.400 And they all say, like, Sam's Town or whatever on the back?
00:05:08.100 Yeah, and she would always, like, buy and then wrap them and forget that she did it.
00:05:11.640 Yeah.
00:05:12.040 You know what I mean?
00:05:12.620 And she would be like, we'd open the presents.
00:05:13.900 She'd be like, I don't know when I bought that or what it is.
00:05:17.900 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:05:19.060 Yeah, they used to tase us over there, man.
00:05:21.640 That's real weird.
00:05:22.540 Yeah, it was kind of crazy.
00:05:23.920 But I think you can get a taser now.
00:05:26.840 Like, you can even get one on Timu that also, like, beats eggs and stuff.
00:05:30.180 Like, they just have everything now, you know?
00:05:32.840 I don't think I want to be tased.
00:05:35.420 You know, I'll say this.
00:05:36.420 Honestly, it was way easier than I thought.
00:05:39.880 Well, I'm glad you took one for the team.
00:05:41.460 I'm glad that's over with.
00:05:42.880 Settled.
00:05:44.160 So your 21st birthday, you guys went over there.
00:05:46.760 Was that, like, the biggest city close to you guys?
00:05:50.000 We're right between Dallas and Treeport.
00:05:52.140 So, like, I-20, my little hometown, Lindale, Texas, is, like, the halfway point where you,
00:05:56.620 like, stop it for gas and Burger King.
00:05:58.260 You know what I mean?
00:05:58.780 Oh, yeah.
00:05:59.200 So I was there a lot.
00:06:01.500 And Dallas was our, like, city.
00:06:03.580 Oh, yeah.
00:06:04.220 Yeah.
00:06:04.840 What was your first job over there?
00:06:07.280 I worked at Bell's.
00:06:09.600 Oh, my first singing gig?
00:06:11.520 No, your first, like, human job.
00:06:13.660 My first, like, my first big girl job, well, I worked at this little department store called
00:06:18.260 Bell's for, like, the Christmas season.
00:06:20.400 They hired me to wrap presents, which I'm terrible at.
00:06:23.540 So then they were, like, these presents are terrible.
00:06:26.700 So they put me in the back room to, like, sort things.
00:06:29.160 And I only lasted two weeks.
00:06:30.580 I was, like, I just started singing and playing.
00:06:32.920 I was 17, but I needed, like, I was not making any money.
00:06:35.760 I was, like, a starving musician.
00:06:36.880 And so I tried for that, like, you know, that, like, holiday season extra money and
00:06:42.820 realized quickly, like, I've got to make the music business work because this is not for
00:06:46.900 me.
00:06:47.560 Because that's not it.
00:06:48.300 No.
00:06:48.840 It was just not.
00:06:50.260 I wasn't good at anything else.
00:06:51.920 So I was, like.
00:06:52.340 Yeah, if they put you in the back to sort, that's not even.
00:06:54.860 I know I couldn't even use it.
00:06:55.820 Well, because I, someone lady asked me, like, does this look good on me?
00:06:58.420 And I told her my truth.
00:07:00.020 I was, like, not really.
00:07:01.120 They're, like, that's not how it works.
00:07:02.520 You kind of have to lie.
00:07:03.640 I'm, like, oh.
00:07:04.260 Yeah, I'm trying to think if I, well, I used to work at a pizza parlor for a while.
00:07:11.360 And we got late.
00:07:12.200 There were cutbacks there or whatever.
00:07:15.600 And I don't know how there could be cutbacks.
00:07:16.960 It's, like, there was four of us working there.
00:07:18.880 But I guess they had, like, cutbacks or whatever.
00:07:21.680 So a couple of us got laid off.
00:07:23.200 But I wonder if I ever worked at a department store.
00:07:27.320 I couldn't work around pizza.
00:07:28.760 I just, I love it too much.
00:07:30.060 Yeah.
00:07:31.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:31.560 We had the pizza inn.
00:07:33.620 In your town?
00:07:34.480 Yep.
00:07:34.920 And had the salad bar and had little corndogs on it.
00:07:37.440 And I was really happy about that.
00:07:39.080 They put corndogs on the salad bar?
00:07:40.340 I love a salad bar.
00:07:41.120 That's unprecedented.
00:07:42.280 Oh, I love a salad bar.
00:07:43.780 Pizza Hut used to have a great one.
00:07:45.080 Do you remember?
00:07:45.640 Pizza Hut.
00:07:46.220 It was like Pizza Hut, but, like, small town brand.
00:07:48.300 Pizza Inn.
00:07:48.720 Oh, yeah, Pizza Inn.
00:07:49.340 Same thing.
00:07:50.020 Did they throw the pizza in the air or not?
00:07:51.780 No.
00:07:52.300 No?
00:07:52.740 Nobody knows how to do that.
00:07:53.580 Oh, yeah.
00:07:54.180 Now I know.
00:07:54.700 I've actually seen it in real time now because my husband is from New York City.
00:07:58.640 Yeah.
00:07:58.860 So I've had, like, legit pizza now.
00:08:01.080 Yeah.
00:08:01.760 Not Pizza Inn.
00:08:02.560 Oh, we had a place.
00:08:03.920 I'm trying to think of what it was called.
00:08:05.180 But they had a big window there.
00:08:06.940 And some dude, I think he was a magician, but they gave him, like, daytime work throwing
00:08:10.980 those pizzas in the air because I think it just fit in people's heads.
00:08:13.840 Like, oh, that's magic.
00:08:15.580 That's hard.
00:08:16.240 Oh, he was, I think he really got the hang of it, and it was awesome.
00:08:20.060 People would come from miles around to watch him, you know?
00:08:22.860 You'd see kids just out there just licking lollipops, just staring at him, looking at
00:08:26.420 this doe wizard.
00:08:28.120 Small town entertainment is pretty simple.
00:08:30.720 Yeah.
00:08:31.380 It's easy to come up with.
00:08:33.780 Oh, yeah.
00:08:34.320 When the fair came to town, that was always exciting.
00:08:37.000 We could go to the fair a day before, and for 50 cents, you could, you were kind of a guinea
00:08:41.020 pig, they didn't tell you that, but it was like, come on over, and you can do a ride
00:08:45.580 for 50 cents.
00:08:46.580 So, we lived right down the street from the fairgrounds, so we'd walk down there, dude,
00:08:50.280 and you would just get rattled, electrocuted.
00:08:53.980 Yeah, I don't trust small town fair rides.
00:08:57.660 Yeah.
00:08:58.020 I just don't.
00:08:59.180 And I think that's probably a wise choice for you, you know?
00:09:02.100 Right, yeah.
00:09:03.120 How?
00:09:03.400 You seem like a drill tracer because you got tased, and you ride the 50-cent ride.
00:09:08.380 Like, you're just going for it.
00:09:09.760 I've been in some bad relationships.
00:09:11.040 Yeah, maybe I'm a thrill chaser, you know?
00:09:12.560 Yeah.
00:09:12.800 I think, yeah, if you stack all those things up.
00:09:16.380 How does a guy, this is news, so how does, because your husband was just like a regular
00:09:20.800 police officer, right?
00:09:22.380 Mm-hmm.
00:09:23.120 How does a regular police officer meet a celebrity comfortably?
00:09:29.740 Do you, is that a weird thing to ask, kind of?
00:09:33.280 No, I mean, honestly, like, we're kind of from the same fabric, so it was, though,
00:09:39.760 the weirdest part of it all is the language barrier at first, honestly, because he has
00:09:43.820 a New York accent, and you hear mine.
00:09:46.020 So it was like, any of my Southern phrases, any of the, like, redneck stuff I say, he's
00:09:51.000 like, well, I don't understand what you're saying.
00:09:52.620 So, but we just met, we met by chance, literally on the street, and like, and six years later,
00:09:58.340 it worked out.
00:09:59.420 But was there moments where he was like, you know, this is like, because I feel like
00:10:03.320 if I'm a regular guy, say if I met, you know, Julia Roberts, or trying to think of somebody
00:10:09.640 else, Queen Elizabeth or something, and I'm trying to date him, I would, I wonder if there
00:10:14.320 would be moments in my head where I'm like, how do I do this?
00:10:17.220 Like, you know, do I put on a special cologne?
00:10:19.020 Like, what do, how do I, just because there's some-
00:10:22.280 Well, Brendan does wear the polo, like the old school one.
00:10:24.060 Oh, he does?
00:10:24.740 The red bottle.
00:10:25.040 Oh, yeah.
00:10:25.680 That green bottle with the little gold cap?
00:10:27.340 The red one.
00:10:28.420 I don't know if I've seen that one.
00:10:29.560 That might be the sport.
00:10:30.380 Yeah.
00:10:31.780 Maybe it is.
00:10:32.540 Remember when sport came out?
00:10:33.780 Yeah.
00:10:34.260 Oh, every-
00:10:34.940 Did you ever wear cool water?
00:10:36.860 No, I didn't, but-
00:10:37.940 Yes, you did.
00:10:38.720 No, some of the fancier kids kind of did.
00:10:42.400 Guys that had, like, game with women wore it.
00:10:45.580 That's why I was like, did you, are you lying?
00:10:48.100 Did you wear the cool water, say it?
00:10:49.500 I didn't have game with women.
00:10:50.860 I was like, I was always the guy who, like, would, like, would help my buddy open all the
00:10:56.680 valentines, like on valentines in school, they would have, like, the key club or whatever
00:11:00.580 would come in, and if somebody bought you a valentine, they'd give them all out in the
00:11:03.580 room at the same time, so my buddy would get, like, 11 of them, and I wouldn't get any,
00:11:07.920 but he'd let me, like, hold a couple of them on my desk or whatever.
00:11:10.940 Make you feel good?
00:11:11.520 Yeah, and it's like, hey, hold-
00:11:12.380 Isn't it, like, wouldn't it, like, the one where you give everybody in the class one so
00:11:15.400 everybody feels love?
00:11:16.980 Oh, when we were kids, but when it got into junior high, it got, like, okay, somebody
00:11:20.460 had to go.
00:11:21.040 Got real, yeah.
00:11:21.480 Yeah, and you would get him, and he would just have a stack of them.
00:11:24.420 He looked like the damn bachelor.
00:11:25.240 You're going to get so many valentines now, it's going to be weird, because you talked
00:11:28.140 about it.
00:11:28.600 That's a good point, huh?
00:11:30.400 Yeah, valentines were nice.
00:11:31.820 My mom wouldn't get us, like, something that she would, like, leave by our, like, bed or
00:11:35.520 something in the morning.
00:11:37.340 Like, that was pretty sweet, though.
00:11:38.940 So, um, but yeah, was there ever a moment where he was just, like, where it just seemed
00:11:43.500 like nerd, like, he's like, I'm a regular guy, and you're a regular person, but then
00:11:49.160 there's always, like, a, I think there's a fear in, like, a regular guy's head of, like,
00:11:53.840 how you would behave around a celebrity, I guess.
00:11:56.460 I think-
00:11:57.520 Does it make any sense at all?
00:11:58.520 Yeah, and it definitely is an adjustment to, like, just jump into country music world
00:12:01.960 and move to Nashville.
00:12:03.620 I mean, he, like, retired, you know, he was eight years on the department, and he, like,
00:12:08.740 sort of made the choice.
00:12:10.400 We made the choice together of, like, we got to be together, you know, and-
00:12:14.200 Yeah, to trade your gun in for a harmonica or whatever is a big deal.
00:12:17.660 I think, um, well, thank God he didn't, because I don't know if he- he loves music.
00:12:22.100 He's not necessarily musical.
00:12:23.880 He did write a song on my new record.
00:12:25.800 Really?
00:12:26.080 He's a co-writer on a song on my new record.
00:12:27.620 Yeah, I had him writing during, uh, 2020.
00:12:31.180 We were all doing anything during 2020.
00:12:33.500 Oh, yeah, things got weird.
00:12:34.540 Yeah.
00:12:34.900 Oh, if cops are writing songs, yeah.
00:12:36.740 Yeah, I was like, let's write songs, and so we did, and he was pretty good, and I guess
00:12:41.780 because, I mean, growing up in New York City and, like, being a cop on the street in Times
00:12:45.660 Square, like, you have a lot of life lived, you know, and so this record, he has, um, a
00:12:50.940 co-writer on my song called Damn It Randy, and he had some of the best lines in the song.
00:12:54.400 Really?
00:12:54.860 Yeah, so he-
00:12:55.760 Oh, wait, I've heard that when something, like, in a hurricane.
00:12:58.700 That was his line.
00:12:59.840 Nuh-uh.
00:13:00.380 Flying a cot in a hurricane.
00:13:01.640 I was like, dang it.
00:13:02.780 That is a good line.
00:13:03.480 Yeah.
00:13:03.920 It is a good line.
00:13:05.080 But, yeah, you know, I think that, like, all the celebrity part out of it, I don't care
00:13:10.280 about that stuff, you know?
00:13:11.300 So, it just made it, we're just real and regular, and, like, like I said, both being from first
00:13:17.120 responder families, like, we kind of grew up the same.
00:13:20.380 There was some glue there.
00:13:21.020 Just in different places, yeah.
00:13:22.760 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
00:13:23.640 I'm just trying to inspire, like, regular men out there to think that they could handle
00:13:27.140 it if they met a celebrity person in that world, that they, everything could be cool.
00:13:31.600 They can, and you know what, it's like, I'm such a big stickler of, like, don't surround
00:13:36.100 yourself with yes people, and so, having a husband that's just a regular guy, like,
00:13:41.920 just being a cop in New York City, and, like, he comes into my world, but he tells me the
00:13:47.600 truth.
00:13:48.080 He, like, calls me on my shit.
00:13:49.740 He tells me the truth.
00:13:50.840 He doesn't sugarcoat.
00:13:52.000 He sees everything for what it is, and I really appreciate that.
00:13:55.420 Like, there's, the fact that he's not in my industry at all, and just really kind of,
00:14:00.200 if it's a straight shooter, it's like, it's such a blessing to have in my life, and so,
00:14:04.820 I'm glad that I married somebody that just, like, is that way, that is just a regular
00:14:09.440 blue-collar guy that sort of comes in and enhances my world and speaks a lot of truth
00:14:14.120 into my life.
00:14:15.700 So, y'all go.
00:14:16.600 All y'all regular do is go.
00:14:17.880 Go get it.
00:14:18.800 We need you.
00:14:19.800 Yeah, we need you.
00:14:21.320 That's a great call.
00:14:22.420 He also married, like, a country singer and a horse girl, and so, I mean, he signed up
00:14:26.380 for a lot.
00:14:27.840 Yeah.
00:14:28.120 Because horse girls are like, we're a different breed.
00:14:30.420 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:14:31.640 I just met, I went to a therapy place for, like, a week, and they had horses out there,
00:14:35.800 and one of the therapists, like, worked with the horses.
00:14:38.280 She was, like, the horse therapist lady or whatever, like the-
00:14:41.320 It's amazing.
00:14:42.140 Yeah, and so, like, she had me out there hugging this big old horse.
00:14:46.520 I don't think, I don't know what his name was.
00:14:48.660 I've done that, too, the equine therapy.
00:14:50.240 Yeah.
00:14:50.340 It's amazing.
00:14:51.340 I thought it was crazy, but it's really neat.
00:14:53.920 It teaches you so much, like, where they're like, put your hand where you feel like the-
00:14:59.700 Put your hand where you feel most drawn to the horse and, like, immediately put my hand
00:15:02.940 on its heart.
00:15:03.680 Oh, I was going to hope so.
00:15:03.860 I didn't even know where a horse heart was.
00:15:06.420 Now that I think about it, like, I was like, I don't know where it is in that huge shot chest.
00:15:09.980 You know?
00:15:10.340 It's pretty cool.
00:15:11.480 Oh, I had to take the horse.
00:15:12.520 I was trying to take his pulse, and I had to do it with both of my hands like that.
00:15:15.340 But, like, horses are crazy.
00:15:17.220 They just got, like, 60 inches of neck on them.
00:15:20.500 But, yeah, it was kind of wild, because at first, she's like, okay, approach the horse
00:15:24.300 and let it know you're okay.
00:15:25.620 So then I'm, like, four feet from this horse.
00:15:28.220 I think his name was Knuckles or, like, Mitten or something.
00:15:31.720 And I'm like, hey, horse, I'm just letting you know I'm here.
00:15:35.740 Like, it was almost like meeting an alien, because I'd just never even been around a horse,
00:15:39.560 like, in that much, like, proximity, like, just being a horse in a pen.
00:15:43.280 But by the end, I got to take the horse for a walk and stuff, and I felt like it was cool.
00:15:48.260 Because at first, I was super nervous, and as I went along, it kind of, like, I kind of, like, my idol came down.
00:15:56.800 Yeah.
00:15:57.160 You know?
00:15:57.660 And that, they're so therapeutic, just being around them in general.
00:16:01.500 But, like, they're just majestic creatures.
00:16:03.840 And I heard, I think they can hear your heartbeat from, like, five miles away or something.
00:16:07.380 Oh, my God, perverts.
00:16:08.880 Isn't that crazy?
00:16:09.620 Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
00:16:11.720 I mean, that's eavesdropping.
00:16:13.940 I know.
00:16:14.940 But they could sense everything.
00:16:16.800 It's like, they tell you the truth about you before you even know your own truth.
00:16:19.700 You're like, ah.
00:16:20.700 I didn't grow up around horses.
00:16:21.880 I didn't start until I was 30.
00:16:23.340 And I just wanted to do something that scared me a little.
00:16:26.300 And I always wanted to be with that cowgirl.
00:16:27.980 Like, I used to play all the rodeos back in the day and, like, singing the national anthem
00:16:31.460 and small town rodeos.
00:16:33.140 I love rodeos.
00:16:33.700 When I was first getting started.
00:16:34.500 And all those, like, flag girls and the barrel racers with all the glitter and fringe, I
00:16:38.520 wanted to be that so bad.
00:16:39.920 And I chose country music.
00:16:41.700 And so I was, like, at 30, I was like, I'm going to be a cowgirl.
00:16:45.560 Damn it.
00:16:45.920 I'm going to do this.
00:16:47.000 And so I started riding for the first time at 30.
00:16:50.220 And now I'm really super into it.
00:16:52.380 I love it.
00:16:53.180 But I was, I mean, I'm still, like, I'm green.
00:16:56.280 I don't know what I'm doing.
00:16:57.140 But I just love, like, having a hobby completely outside of what I do that's challenging and
00:17:02.860 physically challenging.
00:17:03.980 And also, it's, like, not up to you.
00:17:05.740 It's up to them, you know?
00:17:07.220 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:17:08.500 It is, like, that's the dang Lord's Uber, dude, being on a horseback.
00:17:12.980 The Lord's Uber.
00:17:14.060 Bro, you get on a horse, it is not, it's, like, kind of up to you.
00:17:17.840 Because they give you these little strings.
00:17:19.760 You're, like, these strings are not going to do anything against this horse, you know?
00:17:23.380 No, like, I just saw that pull up on the screen.
00:17:25.340 My horse, Cool, I started mounted shooting.
00:17:28.220 Oh, his name's Cool?
00:17:29.060 His name's Cool.
00:17:29.740 And I started mounted shooting last December.
00:17:31.900 And what does that mean?
00:17:32.880 Mounted shooting?
00:17:33.640 So, like, shooting a revolver with black powder off the back of the horse at a balloon.
00:17:37.880 Oh, my God, bro.
00:17:38.320 It's super fun.
00:17:40.120 It's spectator safe and the horses wear earplugs.
00:17:42.540 Just FYI.
00:17:43.580 The horses do?
00:17:44.540 They do.
00:17:44.920 They wear earplugs.
00:17:45.980 And the gun has black powder in it.
00:17:48.740 And so you do these patterns and you go, like, 100 miles an hour.
00:17:51.320 I don't yet.
00:17:51.880 I'm trying to get there.
00:17:53.300 And you shoot at balloons.
00:17:55.340 My friend, Kenda Lonsane, she's, like, the world champion.
00:17:58.500 And she...
00:17:59.160 Kenda Lonsane?
00:18:00.120 Bring her up.
00:18:00.900 She's a badass.
00:18:02.200 Like, she has taken me under her wing and taught me so much about it.
00:18:06.660 I've never even heard of this.
00:18:07.520 So it's called mounted shooting.
00:18:08.600 So you started...
00:18:10.020 There she is.
00:18:11.160 Let's see that beauty.
00:18:12.200 That's her.
00:18:12.560 She's a beaut.
00:18:13.080 Hey, I'll let her shoot me.
00:18:15.120 That's for sure.
00:18:15.700 She probably would.
00:18:16.720 Really?
00:18:17.120 She'd probably tase you if you wanted her to.
00:18:19.260 Look, she can shoot me in the belt buckle and see if my pants drop.
00:18:22.420 You know what I'm saying?
00:18:23.280 Baby, that's where I'm at with her.
00:18:24.800 She's a buckle shiner.
00:18:26.400 But she's really great at it.
00:18:28.080 So wait, explain it to me.
00:18:29.000 I've never even heard of this.
00:18:30.240 It's so fun.
00:18:31.060 So you have two revolvers, and you have five shots in each.
00:18:35.660 And you're on the horse.
00:18:36.300 It's a gun belt.
00:18:36.880 You're on the horse.
00:18:37.540 And it's a timed event.
00:18:38.720 So, like, come out of the gate, and, like, she does it in, like, 7.5 seconds, which I'm
00:18:43.900 still learning to ride good enough.
00:18:45.720 So I'm a lot slower.
00:18:46.420 Oh, she's used to a quick shot.
00:18:47.700 I'm in again.
00:18:48.200 Yeah, see?
00:18:48.660 So you're shooting at a pattern of balloons, and you're timed on the event.
00:18:54.600 And you do five shots and a gun change.
00:18:57.120 So while you're riding 100 miles an hour, you're having to shoot, aim, switch your gun,
00:19:02.040 go around a barrel, go around a pattern.
00:19:03.880 Like, it's very challenging.
00:19:05.320 Oh, man.
00:19:05.860 Super fun, though.
00:19:06.500 It's, like, the most adrenaline rush.
00:19:08.740 It sounds like ADHD meets Yellowstone.
00:19:12.000 Yeah, it is.
00:19:13.360 But it sounds beautiful.
00:19:14.240 Wow.
00:19:14.820 It is called mounted shooting?
00:19:16.280 Yeah.
00:19:16.740 That's fascinating.
00:19:17.820 And so do you get to try that?
00:19:18.820 So you have your own horse.
00:19:19.560 That was nice to get, wasn't that?
00:19:20.780 Yeah, I bought a horse.
00:19:22.320 I was one of those, like, I did it once and loved it so much.
00:19:24.720 I was like, I'm going to winter in Arizona.
00:19:27.220 I'm buying the horse.
00:19:27.980 I'm buying the guns.
00:19:29.020 Like, I fully got into it.
00:19:31.000 But I just, you know, I feel like at 30, I started riding.
00:19:34.880 And then I turned 40 in November, last November.
00:19:37.800 And I was like, all right, now's a new season to keep pushing myself and try something that's
00:19:42.100 a little scary but new and outside of my wheelhouse.
00:19:45.500 Well, you look beautiful for 40.
00:19:47.100 Well, thank you.
00:19:48.020 Yeah.
00:19:48.180 Yeah.
00:19:48.820 I don't mean that in a flirtation.
00:19:50.040 I just mean that in a complimentary way.
00:19:51.680 I'll send you a Valentine.
00:19:53.080 Okay, please do.
00:19:54.120 Yeah.
00:19:54.660 Actually, your husband will get them all.
00:19:55.900 I'll sit there and hold some for them.
00:19:56.500 He will.
00:19:57.120 Yeah.
00:19:57.400 He'll be like, hold these for me, dude.
00:19:58.660 You're going to get so many.
00:19:59.920 Watch and see.
00:20:00.720 It's going to be great.
00:20:01.780 We'll see.
00:20:02.140 All my friends have a crush on you, by the way.
00:20:04.080 Really?
00:20:04.700 Yes.
00:20:05.020 All my Nashville, my gal pals.
00:20:06.940 I'd love to meet any nice gal.
00:20:08.680 Okay.
00:20:09.000 Well, I know some.
00:20:09.980 I've been trying to be like, we have more like, kind of like brave about just like dating
00:20:14.400 and stuff, you know?
00:20:15.420 Because I just get like, I start to get like turning into a little bit of a home body sometimes.
00:20:19.740 A home so cozy.
00:20:20.740 You know?
00:20:21.120 It is cozy.
00:20:21.860 Yeah.
00:20:22.040 But they say it's cozy.
00:20:23.320 You're with somebody, but then you're like, who is that person though?
00:20:26.000 Because that-
00:20:26.420 It has to be the right person or you'd rather be by yourself.
00:20:28.600 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:20:29.640 I don't want somebody just freaking bugging me and bothering me and wanting pancakes or whatever.
00:20:34.020 Can you make pancakes?
00:20:34.840 Huh?
00:20:35.680 No, I can't.
00:20:36.660 Well, you should learn.
00:20:37.320 Yeah.
00:20:37.420 Because they're going to want pancakes.
00:20:38.640 They are.
00:20:39.140 Damn.
00:20:40.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:20:40.620 Yeah.
00:20:40.880 Yeah.
00:20:41.200 Okay.
00:20:41.580 Let me practice a little.
00:20:42.500 They're like the little cute ones.
00:20:44.260 Like my mom used to do like the Mickey Mouse one where she would like pour the batter in
00:20:47.820 the shape of Mickey Mouse.
00:20:49.200 Oh, that's beautiful.
00:20:50.260 And it was just epic, right?
00:20:51.460 I don't know what-
00:20:52.520 Oh, our mom had like one of those things and it would sit on the table and it had a little
00:20:56.980 dial on it and it would heat the skillet like that and you plugged it in, right?
00:21:01.100 Yeah.
00:21:01.300 It's like a, what do you call those things?
00:21:03.740 It's like a little, like a little skillet.
00:21:06.920 Yeah.
00:21:07.140 It's kind of like a skillet.
00:21:08.100 Yeah.
00:21:08.240 But you don't have to put it on the oven.
00:21:09.160 It's flat.
00:21:09.260 The oven's built into it.
00:21:10.800 And she, one time she did it though on like her wood table and it roasted like a little
00:21:15.320 hole in it and she got, we all got in, we got in trouble for it.
00:21:18.740 We didn't do-
00:21:19.920 How dare y'all want pancakes and make me burn my table.
00:21:22.480 How dare you want pancakes in my house?
00:21:24.740 Yeah.
00:21:25.160 I was like, well, dear God.
00:21:26.120 Well, that's why you went to the horse therapy.
00:21:28.120 Yeah.
00:21:28.480 And it really is full circle.
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00:22:30.840 So, you got to tour with, and you have a new album out, I know that, and we're going
00:22:35.240 to talk about it.
00:22:37.720 What's one of your favorite songs out for your new album that you like performing?
00:22:41.140 Because as a comedian, there's jokes you like telling and then there's some jokes you're
00:22:46.580 performing and it feels even more vibrant.
00:22:49.500 Is there a song off of it that you really like performing?
00:22:52.040 I mean, I just started doing some of them because we did a little thing at my bar,
00:22:56.460 Caceroso, which I think is the first time I met you.
00:22:58.280 Yeah, it's the first time I met you there.
00:22:59.480 Yeah, at the opening.
00:23:01.000 It was the opening.
00:23:01.440 Yeah.
00:23:03.460 Yeah, we did the whole record, which was like, it's always fun to do.
00:23:07.340 I've only done that one other time with my record, Revolution, a long time ago.
00:23:11.580 So, it was fun to like actually learn every song and like I didn't really know them that
00:23:16.620 well.
00:23:16.780 I had lyrics up there.
00:23:17.600 I had a little notebook, like old school.
00:23:19.460 I was like, it's my first time to play these, you know what I mean?
00:23:22.540 But I think, I don't know, there's one on there called Armadillo.
00:23:25.500 It's the first song on the record.
00:23:26.640 And my friend, Aaron Ray-Tierre, I don't know if you know him.
00:23:30.120 He's a Nashville songwriter.
00:23:31.960 And y'all should be friends because he's funny as hell and the funnest and cool.
00:23:35.920 Aaron Ray-Tierre?
00:23:37.040 Ray-Tierre.
00:23:37.860 Ray-Tierre.
00:23:38.700 Okay.
00:23:38.900 Yeah, and he sent me this song and it's just funny and quirky.
00:23:44.000 So, I don't know.
00:23:44.760 That one's been fun to do live.
00:23:45.900 I've only done it a couple times, but it's fun.
00:23:47.960 There he is right there.
00:23:49.660 He's a Kentucky boy.
00:23:51.080 Aaron Ray-Tierre.
00:23:52.340 That's a cool name.
00:23:55.960 You got to tour with Toby Keith before.
00:23:58.700 I did.
00:23:59.360 Yeah.
00:23:59.760 Yep.
00:24:00.020 What was he like?
00:24:00.980 What's Toby Keith like?
00:24:02.140 That was one of my earliest tours.
00:24:04.220 I was lucky enough, like, I went on so many, well, there weren't hardly any women touring
00:24:09.340 back then.
00:24:10.180 Really?
00:24:10.460 Well, like, in country, there wasn't that many touring that much.
00:24:16.780 I mean, in the early days, you got to play, like, 200 shows a year, you know?
00:24:21.700 So, I went out with all men for a long time.
00:24:23.520 I learned so much from all of them.
00:24:25.080 Like, Keith Irvin was my first one, 2005.
00:24:29.180 And then, because I just played Honky Tonks until then.
00:24:31.920 And then, Dirk Spentley and George.
00:24:34.500 Toby, I think, was, like, my fourth big, like, major country tour.
00:24:38.740 Yeah.
00:24:39.240 And I learned a lot.
00:24:39.980 I mean, oh, gosh, old school.
00:24:41.180 Look at that hair.
00:24:41.900 That is, like, Mendel Tex's hair.
00:24:44.120 Oh, my gosh.
00:24:45.860 Wow.
00:24:47.320 Yeah.
00:24:47.980 Little old school.
00:24:49.540 Tease it to Jesus.
00:24:50.460 That's what we say.
00:24:53.720 Oh, the Lord does my hair while I sleep.
00:24:56.100 Exactly.
00:24:56.760 So, don't even, yeah.
00:24:58.060 Wow, that's cool.
00:24:59.080 What was Toby like?
00:25:00.220 Like, what was he like?
00:25:00.980 I just never got to meet him.
00:25:02.400 I've gotten to meet some different artists that I'm a big fan of.
00:25:05.940 But what was he like as a person?
00:25:07.800 He was really, he was, like, he was himself.
00:25:11.500 You know what I mean?
00:25:12.400 Like, he was his, like, authentically himself.
00:25:15.680 Kind of did everything his own way.
00:25:17.760 An outlaw in his own way.
00:25:19.820 Prolific songwriter.
00:25:21.660 And, you know, he was kind of a tough love at first out on the road.
00:25:25.920 But I guess I needed that because I was a baby and didn't know, you know, what was going on yet.
00:25:32.640 I was learning all the ropes of everything.
00:25:34.860 And it was, it was, I learned so much from every tour I was on.
00:25:39.040 And I would say Toby was just, like, like, his fans taught me a lot, too, because they were really about Toby only.
00:25:47.140 Like, you had to work to get them to care, you know, because they were like, we're here to see Toby.
00:25:52.920 And he's, his, like, outlaw kind of I am who I am mentality.
00:25:57.940 They kind of adopted that.
00:25:59.060 And I felt like it made me work for it in a good way.
00:26:01.600 Like, I had to really figure out my set list and figure out, like, I'm just some little gal.
00:26:08.280 They're not here to see me.
00:26:09.180 And if they're here early, I really need to, I'm here to gain fans.
00:26:12.520 I got to work on this.
00:26:13.120 I got to capture that.
00:26:13.820 Did you get to interact with him before he passed away?
00:26:18.040 I haven't.
00:26:18.560 I did see him at the BMI Awards when he got the Songwriter Legend Award a couple years ago.
00:26:26.520 So it was right before he passed away, yeah.
00:26:28.880 And could you tell he was sick then?
00:26:30.520 I just, because it was, I knew people knew he was sick for a long time.
00:26:33.020 He just didn't, like, put much out there about it, it seemed like.
00:26:35.320 It seemed like he was very private.
00:26:36.480 But I guess who would want to, right?
00:26:38.040 Yeah.
00:26:38.620 Well, and I was, I mean, when he was there, he sounded great and he looked great.
00:26:41.920 So, I mean, you know, that journey is like, everybody's got to take that journey and however
00:26:47.400 they feel comfortable and their family and all that stuff.
00:26:49.900 But I know that he was, even at the end, like, really about the music, you know?
00:26:56.480 Yeah.
00:26:56.660 Because the last big thing I saw him out was the BMI's and it was all about his catalog.
00:27:00.600 And I did not realize how many, he wrote like 150 songs a year or something, like crazy.
00:27:05.160 Oh my gosh.
00:27:05.820 Like, just prolific.
00:27:07.980 And I also didn't realize how many outside songs he cut, like, or that he had other artists
00:27:13.320 cut of his until that ceremony.
00:27:16.880 Is there ever a song where you write it and you think it's good, but it's not for you?
00:27:20.920 A lot.
00:27:21.680 Oh, really?
00:27:22.300 Mm-hmm.
00:27:23.040 A lot of times.
00:27:25.960 Yeah.
00:27:26.460 And I, you know, it's, I'm thankful that some artists are still willing to cut outside
00:27:31.400 songs.
00:27:31.960 I'm one of those artists, you know?
00:27:33.260 What does that mean, that they're willing to cut outside songs?
00:27:35.300 Like, like, you can't write every, you can't cut every song you ever write, you know?
00:27:40.160 And so, for instance, Aaron sent me Armadillo and I was like, I love this, I'm cutting it.
00:27:46.620 So, you know, I think it's important if you're a songwriter to have a balance of, we live in
00:27:52.380 Nashville, like, there's amazing songs written all day, every day in this town for years.
00:27:57.420 And I think it's cool when artists are not trying to write every song on their records.
00:28:02.760 Oh, I see what you're saying, because at a certain point, it, it almost, you're just
00:28:06.520 able to help out more people by picking up songs that they've written, really.
00:28:10.620 Yeah.
00:28:11.160 And, you know, like, for my career, I mean, my biggest songs, I wouldn't have if I would
00:28:16.460 have tried to write everything.
00:28:17.580 I mean, like, House That Built Me is a staple in my career.
00:28:20.980 And that's, I didn't write that.
00:28:23.780 And Mama's Broken Heart and Little Red Wagon.
00:28:27.820 Like, I have some of the staples drunk, some of the staples in my set that are like career
00:28:33.500 staple songs are not songs I wrote.
00:28:35.660 So I think it's good to keep the door open to like, you know, look around town, look where
00:28:40.340 we live.
00:28:40.760 This is amazing.
00:28:41.620 Right.
00:28:41.800 Yeah.
00:28:41.960 So many people.
00:28:42.780 Yeah.
00:28:42.920 And you can't do things alone, too.
00:28:44.380 That's one thing I realized, like, kind of like, as I get older, it's like, I used to
00:28:48.260 want to do everything by myself.
00:28:49.960 It was just like how I was wired.
00:28:51.800 And it still is a lot of times, but it's certainly, it started to alleviate some where
00:28:56.540 it's like, I got, I need help.
00:28:58.100 I need people to do, and I need people to help me do things.
00:29:01.740 And, and I can help people do things.
00:29:04.100 And then it's more fun to do something with somebody sometimes.
00:29:07.240 Yeah.
00:29:07.480 And it's like when you celebrate the highs with your friends, because you all did it
00:29:11.760 together, like a co-write, you know, it's fun.
00:29:13.840 Like collaborating is great.
00:29:15.340 Nashville is such a good community for that.
00:29:17.820 Like everybody's, I mean, you know, you live here, like everybody's so, um, country music
00:29:23.900 community is very collaborative and we lift each other up.
00:29:27.400 We kind of stick together, you know, you don't have to look.
00:29:28.980 Do you think that's true?
00:29:30.020 I do think it's true.
00:29:31.100 For me, it has been for 20 years.
00:29:33.780 And not that you have to love every single person you ever work with or in the business,
00:29:38.140 but I feel like everybody's kind of in it for the same reason.
00:29:41.640 And there's a mutual respect there most times.
00:29:44.180 Yeah.
00:29:45.940 Yeah, I guess, but it's also competitive, right?
00:29:48.100 Yeah.
00:29:48.620 But I think that's also good.
00:29:50.660 You got to like compete.
00:29:52.620 But I think there's a difference in my manager.
00:29:56.040 We've been together 21 years and I just recently went on a birthday trip with her and one of
00:29:59.580 her really good friends who's born and raised in Bellmead.
00:30:02.860 Her name's Elizabeth.
00:30:03.620 And she said, there's a difference in wanting to win and wanting to beat everybody.
00:30:08.100 And I thought that was really poignant.
00:30:10.280 I was like, that, that it, cause that's a different mindset.
00:30:13.200 Like, it's okay to want to win and, and like compete and be on top.
00:30:17.380 But I don't, I don't think you have to want to go into it going, I'm going to beat everybody.
00:30:22.160 Right.
00:30:22.540 I'm just going to win at my race.
00:30:23.900 Yeah.
00:30:24.260 Cause it's almost, uh, it's almost vindictive.
00:30:26.580 It's not vindictive, but it's almost, um, yeah, I'm trying to think of the word.
00:30:30.920 It really almost adds a negative edge to it.
00:30:33.580 It does.
00:30:34.180 And I don't feel like.
00:30:34.740 Cause I want somebody to lose then.
00:30:36.580 Right.
00:30:37.080 Right.
00:30:37.340 We can all win.
00:30:37.980 We just got to run our own race.
00:30:39.540 Yeah.
00:30:41.060 Interesting.
00:30:42.120 Yeah.
00:30:42.500 Thanks for thinking about that kind of stuff with me.
00:30:44.620 Yeah.
00:30:44.980 Cause I love songwriting.
00:30:45.960 Oh, in Nashville, anything can happen.
00:30:47.760 You, uh, like you'll drop a tomato at Trader Joe's and somebody will come up and have half
00:30:52.400 a stanza written about it.
00:30:53.580 You know, it's like, yeah, you get in a car accident and the guy gets out of the vehicle
00:30:58.060 and he's already written a couple bars about the accident.
00:31:01.060 And he's like, what do you think of these?
00:31:02.400 And I'm like, what do you think about give me your insurance papers?
00:31:05.000 You know?
00:31:05.480 Well, that's the title insurance papers.
00:31:07.280 But it really is.
00:31:09.620 What's in your glove box?
00:31:10.540 That's a good song title.
00:31:12.620 Yeah, dude.
00:31:14.100 Yeah.
00:31:14.300 What's in your glove box?
00:31:15.620 Dude, it better just be gloves, buddy.
00:31:17.500 Yeah.
00:31:17.820 If there's gloves, that's weird.
00:31:19.480 Why is it called a glove box?
00:31:21.380 Because.
00:31:21.540 Now that we talked about it, it's even weirder if there's gloves in there.
00:31:24.400 It is weirder now, isn't it?
00:31:25.700 Yeah.
00:31:25.980 And it started off by.
00:31:26.700 It's only supposed to be your insurance.
00:31:28.240 Because people used to put, the name is derived from the compartment's original purpose,
00:31:33.000 storing driving gloves.
00:31:34.180 Initially, the glove compartment was a box near the driver on the floor.
00:31:38.120 Driving gloves are worn to keep hands clean and considered essential equipment in early
00:31:42.340 vehicles.
00:31:43.340 Driving gloves are important for women now, too, because our hands, they like keep you from
00:31:46.940 aging because your hands are on the wheel.
00:31:49.500 And like, I didn't know that, but like driving gloves are a thing.
00:31:52.160 But why does it keep you from aging?
00:31:53.460 Because the sun on coming through the windshield, you wear like gloves while you drive so that
00:31:58.500 the sun's not like getting on your hands.
00:31:59.820 Honey, you're only driving to Smyrna.
00:32:01.180 That ain't a lot of sunshine on them.
00:32:03.120 I don't know.
00:32:03.660 But I ride in gloves now because of that.
00:32:05.680 My horse.
00:32:06.560 I have my little gloves.
00:32:07.420 I'm like, I don't want sun damage.
00:32:08.540 Oh, I thought you'd ride shotgun in a car.
00:32:11.700 I ride my horse with gloves on now because I'm like, oh, God, I don't want aging hands.
00:32:15.800 There's so much to think about.
00:32:17.060 It's a full-time job.
00:32:18.340 Oh, yeah.
00:32:18.780 You don't want aging hands, though.
00:32:20.280 No.
00:32:20.960 Because you can hide everything else, but you can't just show up to something with mittens
00:32:24.600 on for no reason.
00:32:25.180 No, but Dolly does wear those sheer gloves with the rhinestones, and I'm kind of like
00:32:28.080 really into that.
00:32:28.960 So that's a vibe.
00:32:30.220 Somebody said she's full body tatted up.
00:32:32.940 I heard that, too, but whoever really knows the answer.
00:32:35.180 I don't know.
00:32:35.680 A couple men have to.
00:32:37.320 A couple, for sure.
00:32:39.000 I mean, I don't know how many.
00:32:40.020 I mean, I know.
00:32:40.980 Is she still married or not?
00:32:42.020 Yeah, Carl.
00:32:43.440 Somebody knows, and we're going to have to get to the bottom of this.
00:32:45.880 Somebody knows.
00:32:46.120 Does Dolly have the tattoos or not?
00:32:47.540 Somebody tell us.
00:32:48.660 Somebody's seen that artwork, brother.
00:32:50.160 It ain't me, you know?
00:32:51.700 I ain't no peeping time.
00:32:52.640 I hope she does.
00:32:52.960 If it's possible for her to be more badass, that makes it more badass.
00:32:57.720 Oh, if she came out in one of those ESPN where they do the nude, like they're pushing
00:33:02.820 a baby carriage, but they're naked or whatever.
00:33:06.080 If she came out and she was full body tatted, dude, it would be crazy.
00:33:12.440 Like Kat Von D just totally, that'd be insane.
00:33:16.400 Yeah.
00:33:17.120 Tats are awesome.
00:33:17.960 Yeah.
00:33:19.460 You have them?
00:33:20.440 Yeah, I got tats.
00:33:21.380 I'm not like sleeved or anything.
00:33:23.020 Because I don't know about the top, like the top of your arm, like as you age, like does
00:33:26.320 it get weird?
00:33:26.780 I don't know.
00:33:27.620 I don't know.
00:33:27.820 So I just have them down here where they can't like swing at some point in my life.
00:33:31.720 I'm on my forearms.
00:33:33.160 I don't want like mama tattoo arm.
00:33:35.460 Don't need that.
00:33:36.500 You get a chair and then years later it's a swing set.
00:33:40.120 You're like, oh, that's a damn fourth swing right there.
00:33:42.540 Exactly.
00:33:43.320 Got to be strategic.
00:33:44.160 Is there an artist that passed away that like you really missed their music?
00:33:50.080 You missed them?
00:33:51.720 Is that a weird question?
00:33:53.020 There's a bunch.
00:33:54.640 Like one you knew maybe even?
00:33:56.540 Haggard.
00:33:57.640 Haggard, like he was such a, like my number one hero.
00:34:01.000 And I was really sad the day he died.
00:34:05.280 And like, I guess it was like the first kind of, oh my God, one of my heroes is gone, you
00:34:12.240 know, feelings.
00:34:13.760 I was lucky enough to get to sing with him and meet him and know his family.
00:34:18.640 And so that was awesome.
00:34:20.320 In fact, I just saw his family this past summer at the Plain State Fair and Ben Haggard and
00:34:25.560 the family opened.
00:34:26.940 But I just, I don't know.
00:34:28.740 That was, Merle's my like, number one, you know.
00:34:33.380 Yeah.
00:34:33.820 What did you admire about him, you think, so much?
00:34:35.940 I think that, you know, he, one of my favorite quotes is from Johnny Cash and he said, I sing
00:34:41.860 about the things that Merle Haggard actually lived.
00:34:44.720 Because he literally turned 21 in prison.
00:34:46.920 Like he told his truth.
00:34:48.200 Like he didn't have a glamorous childhood or upbringing and he took his outlaw and sort
00:34:53.560 of the troubled times of his life, turned him into songs and turned it into a beautiful
00:34:59.000 career.
00:34:59.380 And every time I was ever around him, he's one of those heroes that like is exactly what
00:35:05.500 you hope he would be.
00:35:07.200 Like a little mysterious, but super kind, you know.
00:35:09.760 And it's always like, meet your heroes or not, it's scary.
00:35:13.500 Because what if they're, what if they let you down?
00:35:15.680 Yeah.
00:35:16.040 But he never did.
00:35:18.420 Like all these pictures they're bringing up, like tease it to Jesus.
00:35:21.620 I mean, look at the hair.
00:35:22.800 That is Texas hair, y'all.
00:35:25.680 That's definitely a full crop.
00:35:27.360 I mean, they got a lot of rain that summer.
00:35:28.880 I'll say that.
00:35:30.620 That is for sure.
00:35:31.740 Um, what's a song that you put on, like, say like everybody has songs when they want
00:35:37.660 to feel something.
00:35:38.520 Right.
00:35:38.860 So like you have like, man, I really want to feel something right now.
00:35:42.380 Like, or I don't know.
00:35:43.500 I do.
00:35:43.860 I'm kind of an emo kind of dude.
00:35:45.520 So I'll put on like, um, like I used to put on like Trace Adkins, uh, every light in
00:35:54.680 the house is on.
00:35:55.220 You know what I'm talking about?
00:35:55.940 Yes.
00:35:56.380 Is that Trace Adkins?
00:35:57.060 You're going to say Trace Adkins.
00:35:58.280 Yeah.
00:35:58.600 Yeah.
00:35:58.880 Oh, I told you that guy.
00:36:01.220 Yeah.
00:36:01.440 You want the big deep voice?
00:36:02.580 Oh yeah.
00:36:02.960 You want to feel it?
00:36:03.940 I don't know.
00:36:04.420 Oh, I went through a breakup.
00:36:05.220 Yeah.
00:36:05.340 And I would sit on my porch and just smoke cigarettes.
00:36:07.560 I don't even, I don't even smoke.
00:36:09.120 You, well, everybody smokes when they break up.
00:36:10.740 Yeah, dude.
00:36:11.240 It's kind of part of it.
00:36:11.540 I would just smoke and I'd play that on repeat till my neighbors were like, what the
00:36:15.120 turn off the light or whatever.
00:36:17.080 We can't handle it anymore.
00:36:18.780 I think, uh, Nobody in His Right Mind by George Strait.
00:36:22.920 I haven't even heard it.
00:36:23.700 It's so good.
00:36:24.480 It's one of my favorite George Strait songs.
00:36:26.180 It's just like a heartbreaker.
00:36:27.220 We're like, I don't know.
00:36:29.040 I love country.
00:36:30.020 Like I truly, like my go-to is country.
00:36:33.480 Old country is like my jam.
00:36:35.920 Um, and George Strait, we call him the king for a reason.
00:36:39.420 So it's a great song.
00:36:41.460 Nobody in His Right Mind.
00:36:42.620 Nobody in His Right Mind would have left her.
00:36:44.760 Even my heart was smart enough to stay behind.
00:36:47.460 Hmm.
00:36:48.560 Come on.
00:36:49.240 God, put my fucking feelings in a wheelbarrow.
00:36:53.800 We need to go to that horse therapy place immediately.
00:36:57.900 Yeah.
00:36:58.260 What else would I listen?
00:36:59.100 Oh, Lee Bryce's I Drive Your Truck.
00:37:01.400 That one's a heartbreaker.
00:37:02.300 Oh man, my friend Jesse Alexander wrote that song.
00:37:04.060 Really?
00:37:04.680 Yes, she did.
00:37:05.760 And she's amazing.
00:37:06.860 She wrote it.
00:37:07.320 I don't know who she wrote it with, but I know she wrote it.
00:37:09.180 That's a great song.
00:37:10.520 She, yeah.
00:37:11.220 Oh, it's so good.
00:37:11.860 And Lee's, Lee's delivery is like insane.
00:37:14.780 See, but that's a song that he didn't write.
00:37:16.840 Right.
00:37:17.320 Right.
00:37:18.000 And that's why it takes a group.
00:37:19.460 It's like, but you also, if he doesn't perform it, if somebody else does, who knows if it
00:37:22.700 works the same?
00:37:23.640 It could.
00:37:24.560 It all has to land in the right basket, right?
00:37:27.040 Like the right song finds the right artist at the right time.
00:37:30.220 Yeah.
00:37:31.000 You know?
00:37:31.860 Yeah.
00:37:32.280 The house that built me too, I had, I saw some, the writers of that song, it took them
00:37:41.300 like, they wrote that song for like seven years.
00:37:42.820 Alan Shamblin and Tom Douglas.
00:37:44.440 Yes.
00:37:44.680 It, they rewrote it and rewrote it.
00:37:46.860 It's seven years of writing it.
00:37:48.520 But I'm, that is such a lesson.
00:37:50.640 Like, I'm not good at that at all.
00:37:51.960 Like, I'm like, I'm kind of millennial about my, like, I know I want to come into this co-write
00:37:57.280 today and then I'm going to leave with a song.
00:37:59.220 Like in, you know, four hours you get a song or two hours or whatever it is.
00:38:04.640 I, I don't know that I could have stuck with it for seven years.
00:38:07.360 Yeah.
00:38:07.760 It's a lesson to all of us to like be patient till it's right.
00:38:11.080 Oh, that song is like perfectly written.
00:38:12.900 Yeah.
00:38:13.140 Yeah.
00:38:13.620 Yeah.
00:38:13.980 They made like a real Sistine Chapel with that one.
00:38:16.960 Dude, I remember, it's kind of weird maybe, but like I grew up in like a pretty traumatic
00:38:21.080 youth, you know, and, uh, and I heard that song, this is a couple of years ago, maybe two
00:38:28.100 years ago.
00:38:28.460 It was like Christmas time.
00:38:29.860 I was in my town where I grew up and I went and got it like an orchid or whatever from
00:38:37.220 a, uh, flower place.
00:38:39.460 And I took it back to the place that I grew up at and I went, this sounds really bizarre
00:38:46.140 now.
00:38:46.620 I wasn't doing peeping Tom or anything.
00:38:48.220 It was like, I, I knocked on the door and I gave him that.
00:38:52.520 I was like, I think that's really cool.
00:38:55.800 Yeah.
00:38:56.100 I said something nice should grow here.
00:38:57.820 That's what I said when I gave him that.
00:39:00.560 That's a song.
00:39:01.640 You said that to the songwriter.
00:39:02.980 So it was interesting to write it down, but honestly, I, but it's funny that what a song
00:39:08.320 can do to somebody, you know?
00:39:09.740 Cause that's, I didn't write that song, but I was like, how did they know my story?
00:39:12.940 Like, but my guitar player that was with me for forever since I was 17, we lost him
00:39:18.100 two years ago, but he said, I, that is, that song hits me because it's what I wish I
00:39:24.760 had.
00:39:26.140 Yeah.
00:39:26.540 And that sounds like what you're talking about.
00:39:28.260 Like, and I never thought about it from that perspective.
00:39:30.540 Oh, he wished he'd had those things at his home.
00:39:32.100 Like he wished he would have had the house that built him.
00:39:33.880 Right.
00:39:34.340 But he didn't have like a healthy childhood.
00:39:37.380 Yeah.
00:39:37.580 So, you know, but I, I just, I love a song like that.
00:39:41.220 And the fact that they waited it out and just stayed with it is like goals.
00:39:48.180 I got to work on it.
00:39:49.540 I got to work on it.
00:39:50.780 Yeah.
00:39:51.060 That is.
00:39:51.480 Yeah.
00:39:51.960 Yeah.
00:39:52.280 Who knows like what things, and that's what's the one thing that's nice about life.
00:39:56.000 It's like, you don't know the little things you're doing now, how they'll merge with
00:39:59.400 like the things you're doing later on and how it'll help you form like wherever you're
00:40:03.480 supposed to be.
00:40:04.180 Like sometimes it's so hard to get through, um, just the moment, you know, but you don't
00:40:08.720 realize that the moment are the stairs that are going to get you to the place you're supposed
00:40:13.100 to stand, you know?
00:40:14.400 Yeah.
00:40:14.600 Um, anyway, sorry, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:18.480 I don't know.
00:40:18.940 And those people must have thought I was batshit crazy.
00:40:21.840 No, but it's not like the house I grew up in was an old tobacco farm and it was a house
00:40:26.580 built in 1905 and it was just a farmhouse, no central heat and air, one bathroom, like
00:40:32.880 not like, like a farmhouse.
00:40:35.860 Like we didn't have a lot growing up, but people constantly stopped by there, specifically
00:40:40.600 older people, seniors.
00:40:42.020 And we're like, you know, I, they would cry.
00:40:45.860 They would just be standing on the front porch crying.
00:40:47.480 And I was like 10, like hiding behind my mom going like trying to eavesdrop and like,
00:40:51.800 what are they saying?
00:40:52.780 You know, that they had so many memories there and those, those handprints were there.
00:40:56.440 That's why I thought when I heard the song, I was like, have they been eavesdropping on
00:40:59.340 my whole life, like because it was such an old farmhouse that had so many stories in
00:41:04.320 it and it touched so many people's lives, you know?
00:41:07.240 Oh yeah.
00:41:08.200 Yeah.
00:41:08.580 I think that's one thing that's amazing about art is that it can do that.
00:41:12.680 I mean, I think you could, it's just powerful, you know, that the beats and the words and
00:41:18.720 you put it all together the right way and it unlocks something.
00:41:22.000 It does.
00:41:22.400 And it's like, everybody feels like, okay, I'm not alone in this world.
00:41:26.620 And this, this, whatever's happening to me, good, bad, or ugly, I'm not the only one.
00:41:30.980 That's the beauty of a song or any art, really, truly, but especially songs.
00:41:35.180 I love, I'm, I'm, I'm in awe of songs.
00:41:38.920 I'm a songwriter.
00:41:39.960 I'm a song lover.
00:41:40.700 I'm a music lover, like especially country ones.
00:41:42.920 Cause we just tell the, tell the sad truths no matter what, like you get in your feels,
00:41:47.280 you know?
00:41:47.680 Oh yeah.
00:41:49.060 So what do you listen to when you're like wanting to like rage or like rock out or.
00:41:53.840 I mean, I'll put on before, well, I mean, before I go on stage, I listen to, uh, FGL
00:41:58.860 dirt.
00:41:59.360 It's a little uptempo for me, but it's also kind of, kind of chill.
00:42:02.260 Yeah.
00:42:02.480 And like down home and grounding.
00:42:04.320 And then I'll put on a little bit of boozy bad-ass and listen to him.
00:42:07.360 So I'll turn it the other way.
00:42:08.620 You know, I might even go some sexy red or something like that.
00:42:12.040 I don't go anything too crazy.
00:42:13.820 I mean, sometimes I'll put on maybe like sound garden or like, um, uh, I've been listening
00:42:21.020 to Steven Wilson jr.
00:42:22.160 I'm obsessed with that record.
00:42:24.100 God, it's so good.
00:42:25.080 Golly, it's great.
00:42:26.740 I actually have a rock coming up with him.
00:42:28.280 You do?
00:42:29.020 Yeah.
00:42:29.600 Oh my God.
00:42:30.300 What are you going to wear?
00:42:31.600 I know.
00:42:32.700 We, it's, it's like hard.
00:42:34.440 I wrote with him and Natalie, him be, um, recently.
00:42:36.680 And we wrote this song called, well, the hook is, I don't want to see the movie.
00:42:40.720 If the dog dies, like all of us sitting there crying, it was just like the most magical
00:42:45.940 right.
00:42:46.400 And it was Steven's idea obviously shows up with that and my dogs were there and they're
00:42:50.220 seniors.
00:42:50.780 I was like, Oh God.
00:42:51.480 And they're scared.
00:42:52.200 They're like, Hey, let's don't finish the song.
00:42:54.160 No, he's so great.
00:42:55.500 I love him.
00:42:56.080 But I also love it.
00:42:56.740 It said sound garden.
00:42:57.380 Cause mine is audio slave.
00:42:58.980 Like that's my really, what do you wear while you listen to people?
00:43:03.260 Like, what do you, what people would be surprised to know about you?
00:43:05.500 I'm like, he's audio slave.
00:43:06.520 Yeah.
00:43:07.540 Cause it's like, I just get all ragey.
00:43:12.740 Yeah.
00:43:14.060 Female rage is a thing.
00:43:15.120 You know, it's like my bread and butter.
00:43:17.620 Yeah.
00:43:18.000 No, I definitely noticed that some of it's in you, you know?
00:43:20.860 And yeah, I've been victim of it for sure, dude.
00:43:23.260 I've got a couple of angry women in my texts, in my D and my dang.
00:43:26.860 In your ding dang DMs.
00:43:28.460 In my ding dang DMs.
00:43:30.380 Yeah.
00:43:30.700 But yeah, it is.
00:43:32.720 It's just interesting.
00:43:33.420 A song will get you activated or to get you ready for like a certain moment or something.
00:43:37.800 Did you ever have to play at a funeral or anything?
00:43:40.020 Did you ever get asked to do something like that?
00:43:41.280 Oh God, I can't.
00:43:42.340 Like, I'm not good at it at all.
00:43:44.220 I just, I get too emotional.
00:43:45.900 Did you ever have to or not?
00:43:46.980 Yeah.
00:43:47.360 I had to sing at my grandma's and I had to sing at a friend that was like my age.
00:43:51.440 That was the worst one.
00:43:52.700 Oh God.
00:43:53.000 Was it the first thing you ever went to?
00:43:54.760 It was a car accident.
00:43:55.040 It was the first like, like reality check, like teen years, high school friend.
00:44:02.400 You know what I mean?
00:44:03.720 And her family asked me to sing and I did, but it was, it was just one of the hardest
00:44:08.240 things I've ever done.
00:44:09.840 I really, I know.
00:44:11.460 I know.
00:44:12.720 So I, I, but you know, when you're given a gift, like, what are you going to say?
00:44:18.140 I'm not going to use it to celebrate someone that was amazing.
00:44:21.040 You have to do it.
00:44:21.980 Yeah.
00:44:22.120 Get on up there, Miranda.
00:44:23.080 Yeah.
00:44:23.440 Oh, my good God.
00:44:26.400 Yeah, man.
00:44:26.960 Oh, one time I was at a funeral and some, uh, the person that sang, it was a girl and
00:44:32.420 she was so nervous.
00:44:33.240 She started singing the star spangled banner.
00:44:36.780 On accident?
00:44:37.500 Yeah.
00:44:37.900 Oh man.
00:44:38.880 Well, you shouldn't sing that.
00:44:39.840 Somebody had to go and grab and kind of grab.
00:44:41.740 Hardly anyone should sing that.
00:44:43.740 Hardly.
00:44:44.120 Let's just talk about it.
00:44:45.300 It's time to talk about it.
00:44:46.080 If Kenny's right there in the casket and she's just like, who's people were like, we can't
00:44:51.180 even be here right now.
00:44:52.580 Honestly, like there's like four people on earth that should sing that song and that's
00:44:56.580 it.
00:44:57.280 And she made it to like this and people wait and some people started going like this.
00:45:00.680 I was like, no, no.
00:45:01.940 Yeah.
00:45:02.120 Cause part of it is just, I just feel so comfortable right now.
00:45:04.500 I'm going to go down those spiral stairs and leave forever right now.
00:45:07.920 Those only go up.
00:45:08.680 Just thinking about it.
00:45:10.220 Oh, and they only go up.
00:45:11.940 A lot of us were like, what?
00:45:13.740 I thought, what happened?
00:45:15.620 But he wasn't even in the service.
00:45:17.280 No.
00:45:17.440 The whole thing got really confusing, man.
00:45:20.060 I've been at some weird funerals.
00:45:21.540 My dad was 70 when I was born.
00:45:22.740 He was an older man.
00:45:23.580 And so he had to get me a suit for a funeral one time.
00:45:27.600 Right.
00:45:27.960 And it was around Halloween.
00:45:30.480 He got me a Beetlejuice costume.
00:45:33.720 Like the pin strap.
00:45:35.120 And like a costume version though.
00:45:37.140 Like not even, I don't even know if it was real textiles.
00:45:40.260 Did they just think you were like stylish?
00:45:42.200 I don't even know if it was real textiles or whatever.
00:45:44.340 But anyway, I, so I go to this funeral dude in a dang Beetlejuice costume, bro.
00:45:51.900 And I guess it was kind of hip, I guess.
00:45:54.620 How old were you?
00:45:55.500 I was probably 11 or 12.
00:45:57.280 So like already awkward years.
00:45:58.760 So that didn't help.
00:45:59.580 It was horrible.
00:46:00.580 Yeah.
00:46:00.840 But, you know, I guess that's what happens when you send a senior citizen to the, it wasn't Rite Aid back then.
00:46:06.720 It was called KMB was a store they had that had them a couple of costumes over there.
00:46:11.040 But God, it was, yeah, that was too much.
00:46:14.240 But yeah, anyway, funerals are a lot.
00:46:17.240 Yes, they are.
00:46:18.100 So sorry I brought that up.
00:46:20.900 I was like, I don't have anything to say to that.
00:46:22.760 I'm sorry about that.
00:46:24.040 It seems terrible.
00:46:24.740 I heard a rumor that you got to meet Gypsy Rose when she was a Make-A-Wish kid.
00:46:33.640 Is that true?
00:46:34.040 I did.
00:46:34.600 I met her several times.
00:46:36.020 Do you remember it?
00:46:36.960 Yep.
00:46:37.800 There's a lot.
00:46:38.620 There's, look at that hair, that crunchy hair.
00:46:40.580 I got that Aussie scrunch spray going in my hair.
00:46:43.040 The hair is coming along as these photos go forward.
00:46:46.500 Yes.
00:46:47.120 I've met her several times.
00:46:48.560 Super, super sweet girl.
00:46:50.640 And what was her mother like?
00:46:52.500 Like, I believed her.
00:46:54.820 Yeah.
00:46:55.380 I mean, I did.
00:46:56.080 Like, when all that came out, I was freaking out.
00:46:57.820 That's what I was wondering.
00:46:58.560 How did you feel?
00:46:59.380 Was somebody just tell you, oh my God, do you see what just happened?
00:47:02.500 Yeah, like somebody texted me and was like, have you seen this documentary?
00:47:05.040 I'm like, what?
00:47:05.680 What's happening?
00:47:07.060 And I'm now, I've been down all the rabbit holes of it.
00:47:09.260 I'm like in it.
00:47:10.140 I'm 100% now.
00:47:11.180 She's pregnant.
00:47:12.300 I watched all the things.
00:47:14.080 But like, she seems to be thriving.
00:47:16.940 So.
00:47:17.280 Yeah.
00:47:17.640 I mean, she's had a crazy childhood.
00:47:18.800 The whole thing was crazy.
00:47:20.000 That's what I'm just saying.
00:47:20.700 I can't even imagine how crazy it was.
00:47:23.300 Like, it's something like that.
00:47:24.300 Because you have these moments in your life.
00:47:26.280 You're being supportive of somebody.
00:47:27.600 They're dealing with a disease, a syndrome.
00:47:30.640 And then.
00:47:31.380 But it was real to her.
00:47:32.440 I mean.
00:47:32.800 Oh, totally.
00:47:33.640 So she was a child.
00:47:34.900 Yeah.
00:47:35.540 She was a baby child.
00:47:36.640 But then suddenly it'd be like a national thing.
00:47:38.980 And you're like, what is going on?
00:47:42.020 I can't believe I was part of that.
00:47:43.540 But I'm.
00:47:44.800 You know, you don't know at the time.
00:47:46.100 And neither did she.
00:47:47.060 So.
00:47:47.660 Yeah.
00:47:47.880 It was just like.
00:47:49.820 You know.
00:47:50.500 Her.
00:47:50.740 I mean.
00:47:51.460 Her mom worked the system.
00:47:52.960 And it worked.
00:47:53.720 Because we have all met her.
00:47:54.840 Like, the whole country music community.
00:47:56.620 Like, ask any of us.
00:47:57.600 Oh, so she was.
00:47:58.220 She was part of it.
00:47:58.760 She was in it.
00:47:59.400 Yeah.
00:47:59.700 She was hobnobbing.
00:48:00.840 Mm-hmm.
00:48:01.560 Oh, that's interesting.
00:48:03.120 Yeah.
00:48:04.300 A lot of us.
00:48:04.920 That gets kind of crazy, too, sometimes.
00:48:07.300 You know.
00:48:08.320 But.
00:48:08.640 But if that's what the child loves or something.
00:48:10.640 But she did.
00:48:11.140 And Gypsy was very genuine.
00:48:12.600 Yeah.
00:48:12.700 Really.
00:48:13.040 Truly.
00:48:14.000 That's just such a.
00:48:14.880 I heard that.
00:48:15.480 I was like, this can't be true.
00:48:16.820 It's just so crazy.
00:48:17.840 Yeah.
00:48:18.420 Yeah.
00:48:19.340 Did.
00:48:19.920 Has she.
00:48:20.360 Have you reached out.
00:48:21.040 Have you guys.
00:48:21.440 Has she reached out to you since.
00:48:22.880 No.
00:48:23.860 I mean.
00:48:25.260 That was so long ago.
00:48:26.120 She might just put all that behind her.
00:48:27.600 Which I would if I were her.
00:48:28.560 You know.
00:48:29.100 I don't know.
00:48:29.380 The whole thing.
00:48:30.060 I don't know.
00:48:30.480 Some of y'all's songs are so good.
00:48:31.620 I don't know how you could put it all behind you.
00:48:33.540 Well.
00:48:34.260 We'll see if she comes to a show.
00:48:36.080 There you go, dude.
00:48:38.460 Yeah.
00:48:38.780 That's just a crazy thing that I heard.
00:48:40.400 So I was like, is this the truth or not?
00:48:41.840 It's true.
00:48:42.440 It's on Google.
00:48:43.180 It's got to be true.
00:48:44.900 Well, now you know, chat GPT is kind of getting better than Google because there's not advertising
00:48:49.500 on it.
00:48:50.680 Oh, yeah.
00:48:51.300 My brother's like super smart.
00:48:53.200 Like really a techie.
00:48:54.700 And he's telling me all about this stuff.
00:48:56.440 When we first said it, I was like, who's Chad?
00:48:57.940 He kept talking about chat.
00:48:59.040 And I was like, who's Chad?
00:49:00.840 And then he asked it to write a song at Father's Day.
00:49:04.000 We had Father's Day in New York with my husband's family.
00:49:06.140 We're sitting around, you know, with like forced family fun.
00:49:08.680 You have to like think of things to do.
00:49:09.800 Yeah.
00:49:10.400 And so my brother's like, I'm going to ask chat to write a Miranda Lambert song.
00:49:14.320 And I was like, okay.
00:49:15.660 And it did.
00:49:17.200 And it didn't have a melody, but it's just the lyrics.
00:49:19.020 And it was called Whiskey and Wildflowers.
00:49:21.700 And it was kind of good.
00:49:23.160 I was like, oh, God.
00:49:24.600 Oh, God.
00:49:25.380 My career's over.
00:49:26.480 It's happening.
00:49:27.500 Do I get a royalty?
00:49:28.360 Will it go on tour?
00:49:29.140 Tell me all the answers.
00:49:30.940 Chad GBT.
00:49:32.340 There it is, dude.
00:49:33.320 That's definitely the redneck version of Chad GBT.
00:49:37.540 That's what I thought he said.
00:49:39.160 I was like, who's Chad?
00:49:40.100 He was like, I'm saying chat.
00:49:41.760 And I was like, oh.
00:49:42.960 And it's like, how do you get to New York City?
00:49:44.620 You put in there.
00:49:45.120 It's like, how much gas money you got?
00:49:46.980 You know what I'm saying?
00:49:47.800 I know.
00:49:48.120 Like it has a different voice.
00:49:49.140 Like it has like a hick voice.
00:49:51.680 Yeah.
00:49:51.960 That'd be funny.
00:49:52.640 That'd be great.
00:49:53.400 Having Chad GBT.
00:49:54.940 That'd be so good.
00:49:56.200 Hey, Chad.
00:49:56.900 How do I fix this two-stroke motor, bub?
00:50:01.920 That'd be so good, dude.
00:50:03.400 Somebody has to come up with that.
00:50:05.220 Yeah.
00:50:05.700 Whiskey and Waffle Heart sitting on the porch, sun sinking low, memories of you like a river
00:50:10.000 flow.
00:50:10.620 Your laugh still lingers in the evening air, but love's a wild ride.
00:50:14.540 Why does it talk about drinking when it's my song?
00:50:16.820 And I'm holding on with Ken.
00:50:18.000 They're judgy.
00:50:18.640 Chad's judgy.
00:50:20.020 And then the pre-chorus, got a bottle in my hand and a heart full of scars.
00:50:22.900 Full of scars.
00:50:23.540 That sounds like Trace Atkinson.
00:50:26.720 Well, it also sounds like you're a pirate.
00:50:28.980 So that's the crazy part of this.
00:50:31.220 It's so stressful.
00:50:33.020 But this is also like Chad GPT is a newborn.
00:50:36.700 You have to think in a few years, if it starts to really get like the ability to do some stuff,
00:50:42.060 but I don't know if it would ever take over like the human ability to feel and stuff and
00:50:45.700 actually create music that's based on real feelings.
00:50:48.060 I don't think it could do it.
00:50:48.700 No, and that's the, you know, it's all weird.
00:50:50.900 Whatever.
00:50:51.260 I'm trying to stay hip and cool, but it's weird.
00:50:53.360 But I'm not going to be that hip and cool.
00:50:54.540 That's weird.
00:50:55.060 Why don't you have feelings anymore?
00:50:56.280 Right.
00:50:56.720 Like you have to go to a museum to see feelings.
00:50:58.500 Like somebody's smiling behind a piece of glass.
00:51:01.280 You're like, oh, remember that?
00:51:02.380 Remember that?
00:51:02.980 Oh, there's a tear.
00:51:03.860 Yeah.
00:51:04.020 This is a fossilized tear that you're looking at.
00:51:07.120 Oh, wow.
00:51:07.780 We don't even have those anymore.
00:51:09.980 Yeah.
00:51:10.100 I'm on the pill that makes it so you can't cry.
00:51:13.260 Remember when people had those?
00:51:14.860 But that could be a real thing one day.
00:51:16.540 I know.
00:51:16.900 Oh, but maybe it'll be, we'll be long gone and doing something else by then, hopefully.
00:51:21.500 I hope I'm in the dang stars or definitely just, I don't know.
00:51:24.940 I hope something happens to me.
00:51:25.960 I hope I'm in a dang time capsule.
00:51:28.060 Well, you live in Nashville and Texas for a bit.
00:51:33.280 What was Nashville, how has Nashville changed over the years to you?
00:51:38.400 It's popular now.
00:51:40.740 Like everybody wants to come here.
00:51:42.540 It's the city, which is awesome.
00:51:44.440 I think like the fact that country music is thriving right now and our town is a destination.
00:51:52.300 I love that because these honky tonks have been here for ages and kind of like it's the music of our lives, you know, of my life.
00:52:01.540 And so people are wanting to get a little glimpse of it.
00:52:04.020 I love that.
00:52:05.300 Yeah.
00:52:05.580 I don't love that the roads aren't really made for all these people yet, but we'll get there.
00:52:09.300 Yeah.
00:52:10.160 Some of these roads are damn homemade too.
00:52:12.260 I'm like, what is somebody, you see somebody just put a damn cake batter in a pothole out there, you know?
00:52:18.260 Yeah.
00:52:18.820 It's just, people are filling with anything.
00:52:20.420 I drove through something the other day.
00:52:21.800 Cake batter.
00:52:23.300 Oh, I drove.
00:52:23.860 Yeah.
00:52:23.980 People are using anything to fill them now.
00:52:25.580 There's so many potholes, especially in January around that time.
00:52:28.160 Yeah.
00:52:28.540 I drove through something the other day and had damn devil's food all over my tires.
00:52:32.000 I was like, shit's getting weird out here.
00:52:34.000 Was it Dolly's brownie mix?
00:52:35.500 I don't know.
00:52:36.220 Is that a thing?
00:52:36.820 Those are good.
00:52:37.860 Dolly has no brownie mix?
00:52:38.800 Have you tried them?
00:52:38.820 The Duncan Hines brownie mix?
00:52:40.900 Dolly has everything.
00:52:42.460 And I bought them.
00:52:43.420 Of course I bought them.
00:52:44.460 And I was like, there it is.
00:52:45.760 Of course I bought them.
00:52:46.520 Oh, God.
00:52:46.940 Because they don't have like oil in them.
00:52:48.380 You know how the box brownies have oil?
00:52:50.580 Nope.
00:52:50.920 She has milk and eggs and butter, like real ingredients.
00:52:54.720 They're delicious.
00:52:55.500 I love that.
00:52:56.640 Dude, what I used to love was whenever our mom would make something, dude, and she would
00:53:01.060 let us lick those things that were in the-
00:53:03.240 The raw egg.
00:53:04.400 Yeah.
00:53:04.600 She lets you lick the beaters.
00:53:06.140 Lick the beaters, boy.
00:53:07.460 Beaters.
00:53:09.040 Now they're called kitchen mixers.
00:53:11.000 Yeah, well.
00:53:11.500 But my mom had like the Walmart brand beaters.
00:53:14.160 Yeah, kitchen mixers is a little bisexual for me, okay?
00:53:17.360 Yeah.
00:53:17.700 Them things were-
00:53:18.340 My husband has the KitchenAid, and he's obsessed with it.
00:53:20.180 He does all of the-
00:53:21.180 He makes homemade pasta.
00:53:22.700 He has all the-
00:53:24.620 Every accessory you can have for a KitchenAid.
00:53:26.780 He's like in it.
00:53:27.660 He's in there.
00:53:28.480 He's not doing like old school beaters.
00:53:30.600 Yeah.
00:53:30.940 We don't even have those.
00:53:31.760 Put them beaters on there, honey.
00:53:33.920 And I will-
00:53:34.260 But I was like, your mom was like, don't eat too much of it because it's raw eggs.
00:53:37.260 Yeah.
00:53:37.460 And we'd be like, bro, and the crazy thing was, some of the- whatever was in it, I mean,
00:53:43.220 we'd eat them.
00:53:44.040 It's like that grainy stuff.
00:53:45.860 Yeah.
00:53:46.140 Granules.
00:53:46.680 It had a little bit of-
00:53:47.800 Like, yeah, it had like- I don't know what it was.
00:53:50.020 Who cares?
00:53:50.660 You didn't even get it down.
00:53:51.340 Nobody cares.
00:53:51.900 But the crazy part was, some of it, if you started licking the beater at the top, then
00:53:56.380 some of the stuff would flow down in your hand.
00:53:58.460 So you'd get all the-
00:53:59.220 Then you're just licking your own hand with that- still holding on to that beater.
00:54:02.940 And then somebody would like accidentally put soapy dishwater in the bowl, and you're like,
00:54:06.680 no!
00:54:07.460 Oh, yeah.
00:54:08.180 It's over.
00:54:09.340 Because, dude, if you could get even part of your head in that dang bowl, you know?
00:54:13.360 I just wanted to grow longer.
00:54:15.200 I would pray to God.
00:54:15.980 I'd make my tongue longer at night.
00:54:17.560 Well, that's a whole different episode.
00:54:20.060 Okay, yeah.
00:54:20.680 Sorry.
00:54:21.720 Sorry.
00:54:22.020 Well, that's for the Tracee Atkins episode.
00:54:24.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:25.820 Dude, well, I told you I'd leave.
00:54:28.700 Yeah, you're right.
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00:54:58.300 What's a place that you miss in Nashville that's not here anymore?
00:55:04.880 I kind of miss Old Losers.
00:55:06.960 Like, Old Losers was like, I love Losers still, but like Midtown, it was like just one little
00:55:13.180 shitty dive bar with like darts in the back and smoke and like a great jukebox and popcorn,
00:55:20.140 you know?
00:55:20.740 And now it's like three stories and the rooftop and all the things.
00:55:24.360 But it's still great.
00:55:25.420 But I kind of miss like the little, like the, the divier, the better, you know?
00:55:31.620 Yeah.
00:55:32.800 Yeah.
00:55:33.160 And now they still have the back porch over there you can go kick it at sometimes.
00:55:35.960 That little deck.
00:55:36.840 I have a little sign up there.
00:55:38.260 It says Marine Lambert Way.
00:55:39.480 It's hanging up there.
00:55:40.740 Do you?
00:55:41.280 Have you been on that VIP deck?
00:55:43.340 Yeah, I have a couple times.
00:55:44.920 Exactly.
00:55:45.140 Go look for it, ma'am.
00:55:46.540 John Daly's usually out there.
00:55:48.320 I put it, yes.
00:55:49.840 I put in a lot of-
00:55:50.480 He's usually out there waiting for an ambulance.
00:55:51.820 I put in a lot of late-nighters to get that sign.
00:55:54.300 Oh, I bet you did.
00:55:55.860 I didn't even think about that.
00:55:56.160 You have to drink a certain amount of Tito's out of a shitty plastic cup to get your sign
00:56:00.460 up there.
00:56:00.920 And I have one, so.
00:56:02.360 And at least it says Way.
00:56:03.620 It could have ended up being Miranda Lambert cul-de-sac, too, you know?
00:56:06.640 Oh, no.
00:56:07.180 See, that wouldn't be as cool.
00:56:08.100 No.
00:56:08.860 But at least it's-
00:56:09.560 Drive, Way, Road.
00:56:11.080 I can deal with.
00:56:11.660 Not cul-de-sac.
00:56:12.380 Yeah, cul-de-sac.
00:56:12.860 I remember when somebody put a damn cul-de-sac.
00:56:14.920 First time I ever saw one, I was like, what is this shit?
00:56:17.560 What do you mean you can't keep going?
00:56:19.820 Just fucking hurt my feelings, boy.
00:56:22.220 I said, we'll see about that.
00:56:23.460 I'm going to call the damn sheriff.
00:56:25.560 We'll see about this.
00:56:26.800 I can't find a picture.
00:56:27.560 I have one on my phone.
00:56:30.260 What else was I thinking about?
00:56:32.920 Oh, if you had to travel back in time, right?
00:56:35.460 If you had a time warper, and it could have a hemi on it or whatever.
00:56:40.280 I don't know how you like to travel.
00:56:41.340 But if you had a time warper, what time back in your life would you go to, do you think?
00:56:47.860 Right now.
00:56:49.040 I think I just stay right now.
00:56:51.000 I feel like I've done it, but I'm still learning.
00:56:55.380 Somebody asked me that the other day, like, what's your most fun era?
00:56:58.800 And I was like, right now.
00:57:00.860 I'm like, still young, but like, not dumb.
00:57:04.760 You know, I mean, you know that whole vibe where you learn a lot.
00:57:09.620 Early 30s were weird.
00:57:11.900 Late 30s were fine.
00:57:14.140 But like, now I'm like, what's we're doing right now?
00:57:16.940 You're like, we're here.
00:57:17.840 We're here.
00:57:19.180 Everybody's just like, 40s is the best decade.
00:57:21.120 I'm like, let's roll.
00:57:22.300 Yeah, we'll see.
00:57:22.940 Yeah.
00:57:23.680 I believe it.
00:57:24.540 Yeah.
00:57:25.140 Here we go.
00:57:26.000 Yeah.
00:57:28.220 Tell me something else that you think about.
00:57:29.640 Oh, the new song is Damn It Randy on your new album.
00:57:33.860 Who's it about, man?
00:57:35.320 Well, it's about Randy.
00:57:38.840 Oh, I see.
00:57:41.660 It's about Randy.
00:57:43.000 Everybody has a Randy in their life.
00:57:44.920 Okay.
00:57:45.660 And everybody has one.
00:57:46.800 And it's about just a time where I was like, this is not good.
00:57:50.980 It's not serving me anymore.
00:57:52.020 Or this is, I got to move on.
00:57:54.720 And was it a real, like, was it serious?
00:57:56.520 Or was it just somebody that didn't install y'all's cable well or something like, you know?
00:58:00.100 Well, it depends on the person.
00:58:01.420 Everybody's got a Randy.
00:58:02.420 Damn it, Randy.
00:58:03.280 Right?
00:58:03.980 And I wrote it with John Randall, who's one of my besties.
00:58:05.760 And his real name is Randy.
00:58:06.960 So I always say that to him anyway.
00:58:08.780 So it's kind of funny.
00:58:10.000 And that's the one that Brendan's a rider on.
00:58:12.440 Oh, yeah.
00:58:13.320 I was flying a kite in the middle of a hurricane.
00:58:14.920 There it is.
00:58:15.820 That little songwriter.
00:58:18.100 What else was I thinking about?
00:58:19.440 What drives you at this point in your career?
00:58:23.140 I know this is kind of a general question, but, like, you've gotten to have notoriety.
00:58:29.040 You've had number ones.
00:58:30.040 You've won Grammys.
00:58:30.860 You've won.
00:58:31.800 You're a household name.
00:58:33.520 You can afford to pay your rent.
00:58:36.500 You know, it's like, what goals are there still for you?
00:58:41.200 Or do things evolve from goals into, like, just wanting to still do the job?
00:58:48.260 I'm just curious.
00:58:48.840 And it's stuff I go through in my own life, too, with comedy, you know?
00:58:51.800 I'm just curious.
00:58:53.300 What do you think about that?
00:58:54.980 You know, I am lucky enough to have reached a lot of the goals that I set when I started this journey.
00:59:00.680 I mean, I was 17 when I was chasing music.
00:59:02.720 That's what I'm doing.
00:59:03.520 Yeah.
00:59:04.560 And people are like, fuck you.
00:59:05.540 You'll be at a Dairy Queen in two months.
00:59:07.300 Yeah, and I was like, okay.
00:59:08.640 See you all next time.
00:59:09.300 You're like, well, I'll be singing in the drive-thru, damn it.
00:59:11.940 Exactly.
00:59:12.820 I don't know.
00:59:13.660 I feel like now I'm just, like, open.
00:59:16.120 I'm trying to be open to, you know,
00:59:18.680 I'm not walking around saying I'm going to do this and this and this.
00:59:21.640 I'm just, like, absorbing what's around me and being open to new opportunities
00:59:26.520 and meeting new people and, like, also saying no to the right things.
00:59:35.520 Like, I think that's a big part of it because you can save your energy for the right things
00:59:40.120 if you just say no to the things that are not right for you.
00:59:42.480 Like, that's kind of where I'm headed and where I've been living in the past couple years
00:59:47.940 because I realize, like, if you put all your energy into the wrong people and the wrong things,
00:59:54.760 then you don't have any openness or any time or energy left for the right things,
00:59:58.640 and then it's too late, you know?
01:00:00.180 So I think I'm just in this space right now where I'm like, what's next?
01:00:03.280 I mean, this is new.
01:00:04.600 I've just started doing podcasts.
01:00:05.960 Like, I've never done that before until this year.
01:00:08.460 You've done a good job.
01:00:09.260 I've watched some of them.
01:00:10.000 Well, I'm new to it, and I'm not great at talking.
01:00:13.620 Like, I'm a singer.
01:00:14.480 Like, I'm in front of people.
01:00:15.560 I'm actually an introverted extrovert.
01:00:17.720 I have an extroverted job with an introvert personality,
01:00:20.660 and so I'm trying to – I'm branching in that way.
01:00:25.380 You know, I always – I'm fine to say my truths in songs.
01:00:28.280 It's just harder to do just, you know, saying it out there.
01:00:31.540 But I think it's important either way.
01:00:33.780 So I don't know.
01:00:34.600 My goals are, like, what's next?
01:00:36.960 Let's do something that scares us.
01:00:39.160 Let's do something that's, you know, makes you grow and makes you learn.
01:00:42.980 Yeah.
01:00:44.160 Yeah, that's true, huh?
01:00:46.180 Yeah, sometimes it's so – I feel like when you're involved in some part of the arts,
01:00:51.420 kind of, you know, people call them, and some people just call them music and comedy
01:00:54.740 and painting or whatever.
01:00:55.820 But it's weird to also kind of evolve because it's like you age, right?
01:01:03.880 We age, and you're like, well, if I – some songs I can't even really sing anymore.
01:01:09.160 Some jokes I can't even really – I could tell them still,
01:01:12.300 but is it really going to be true to where I'm at, you know?
01:01:14.760 I find that that's interesting about art itself is you have to –
01:01:18.760 and then you're – but then you're like, but if I change,
01:01:20.940 will I still have the people who like this thing, you know?
01:01:24.080 Yeah, it's like how do you keep the common thread and keep reinventing?
01:01:27.020 It's a tiny little fine line you have to walk.
01:01:29.600 Yeah.
01:01:29.820 And it's scary because what we do is very public and like what we signed up for
01:01:35.180 and what we started saying or the jokes we told at 20 or the songs we wrote at 20
01:01:39.780 are not the same – we're not in like the same life space
01:01:42.800 and we're not in the same lane anymore, you know?
01:01:44.920 So it's like figuring out how to do that gracefully
01:01:50.500 but still keep that common thread of like where you've been and where you're going
01:01:55.240 but kind of walk this line of stay inauthentic to the true you that started this whole journey.
01:02:01.800 And comedy is the hardest thing in the world.
01:02:03.780 Like I do not – I think that would be the literal hardest part of the arts of any art.
01:02:07.940 I really do.
01:02:08.580 Really?
01:02:09.180 Yeah.
01:02:09.640 I just respect it because it's the most vulnerable.
01:02:13.200 Like standing up there in front of people and just telling jokes
01:02:16.000 and hoping they – like that it lands, you know?
01:02:20.360 And there's no band.
01:02:21.800 It's just you.
01:02:22.880 Yeah.
01:02:23.420 That's scary.
01:02:23.900 I wish somebody would pull up with a drum sometimes.
01:02:26.100 Just like –
01:02:26.680 Start playing a drum solo immediately if you're like, no, this one didn't happen.
01:02:31.720 Take it away, Henry.
01:02:33.280 You know?
01:02:33.600 Just turn it over to somebody.
01:02:34.280 Yeah.
01:02:34.420 You just don't have anybody to like lean on.
01:02:35.880 You're up there by yourself like emotionally naked.
01:02:38.920 Like it's scary.
01:02:39.460 Oh, in the beginning, it's so scary, I think.
01:02:41.480 God, I can't even believe something when you think back.
01:02:43.540 And I don't mean it like – I'm not trying to fill my own ego.
01:02:47.060 But when you think back, like I don't know if I'd go do it now.
01:02:50.800 But yeah, you get up there that first time and you're just like,
01:02:53.160 this is going to – this is going to be good, you know?
01:02:57.760 You don't even believe yourself.
01:02:58.780 You're just screaming that to yourself in a car, you know, in a Ford Taurus.
01:03:02.620 You're like, this is going to be good.
01:03:04.340 Like in your best Chris Cornell voice.
01:03:06.340 Yeah.
01:03:08.060 Beefing yourself up.
01:03:08.940 I don't – I don't.
01:03:09.640 The fact that you said you don't know if you'd do it now.
01:03:11.420 Like I think about – I knew like three –
01:03:14.380 It makes me nervous.
01:03:15.220 I know.
01:03:15.760 I just got anxiety.
01:03:17.040 I think about like – I knew three chords and I was like walking in these bars like,
01:03:20.180 can I play at the set change?
01:03:21.280 Like I just – I got to get some experience.
01:03:23.240 And you know, it's that thing of like, how do I get experience if you don't let me play?
01:03:27.300 Yeah.
01:03:27.780 But then you say, I can't play because I don't have any experience.
01:03:30.320 Like just put me on set change then and I'll play my three songs that I just learned yesterday.
01:03:35.200 Like not good, but just being brave anyway.
01:03:37.660 I don't know.
01:03:38.120 We did it.
01:03:39.580 That's a good point.
01:03:40.560 Yeah.
01:03:41.360 I know the ones that hurt too.
01:03:42.780 Do you ever show you remember that really just kind of burned you when you're just like,
01:03:46.120 God, this is hard.
01:03:47.280 Oh, yeah.
01:03:48.620 Like a birthday or anything.
01:03:50.100 Like you ever get – play at one of those Arab birthdays or something.
01:03:52.840 You're like –
01:03:53.340 Private parties.
01:03:54.220 I'm so thankful for private parties.
01:03:55.520 I love them.
01:03:56.140 I would love to play your private party.
01:03:58.800 But some of them can be hard.
01:04:00.700 Yeah.
01:04:01.020 You know, where it's like – I did – I played a Sweet 16 one time.
01:04:05.560 And this thing was the most extravagant party I've ever seen in my life.
01:04:11.420 And it was a bunch of 16-year-olds.
01:04:12.860 And they only wanted me to do four songs.
01:04:14.640 Michelle Branch was part of it, Leigh-Anne Rimes, and me.
01:04:17.440 And we each did four songs.
01:04:19.580 And like this thing was like legit.
01:04:22.240 It was in Washington, D.C.
01:04:24.140 And these kids were dressed to the nines.
01:04:26.200 They all had on like everything designer.
01:04:28.940 And I was like – I was working at Bell's when I turned 16.
01:04:32.560 Oh, I don't rob those bastards.
01:04:33.820 We were dressed to the threes, honey.
01:04:36.460 Okay?
01:04:37.240 I'll tell you that.
01:04:38.380 We was – the three of us combined, we was a nut.
01:04:41.080 I mean, that was one that sticks out in my mind.
01:04:43.640 I'm like, oh, Lord, this is bougie.
01:04:46.180 Oh, yeah.
01:04:46.760 We remember I had hand-me-downs from damn women.
01:04:48.920 And I was like, I don't have an older sister.
01:04:50.760 I was wearing shit.
01:04:51.440 I was like, whose shit is this?
01:04:52.720 Just –
01:04:53.160 You know?
01:04:54.220 Stuff that – whatever was around.
01:04:55.920 My mom was like a big thrifter.
01:04:59.860 So, big thrifter.
01:05:01.660 I'm like, I found – but this is awesome.
01:05:04.820 So, like, it was in the Doc Martin, like, heyday.
01:05:07.500 And we couldn't afford those.
01:05:08.480 Those were very nice.
01:05:09.240 Those were very nice.
01:05:10.420 They were very nice.
01:05:11.200 God.
01:05:11.640 That's where Mother Hubbard lived in one of those, I heard.
01:05:13.900 They were fancy.
01:05:14.840 We went to Goodwill a lot.
01:05:17.660 And, like, I found a pair of Doc Martins for $7.
01:05:20.900 And they were, like, new.
01:05:22.860 And I went to school, and my mom's like, just tell everybody you got them at GW's.
01:05:27.140 And say it's, like, a nice store in Dallas.
01:05:30.840 So, I forever was like, these are my Doc Martins I got at GW's.
01:05:33.620 It's a nice store in Dallas.
01:05:35.680 Just a flat-out lie.
01:05:36.780 But I was like, $7 Doc Martins.
01:05:38.580 Like, that's a score.
01:05:40.080 That's $3.50 a foot, honey.
01:05:41.600 Let's party.
01:05:42.240 That's the rest of the threes.
01:05:43.140 Oh, that's like putting, damn, each foot into a dang Sheraton.
01:05:47.700 That's really nice.
01:05:48.860 Sheraton's have pretty good beds.
01:05:50.120 You know what I do notice?
01:05:51.560 After touring and going to hotels and stuff, I get one thing that bugs me now is if the
01:05:56.860 mattress is too soft.
01:05:58.720 And I don't mean it in a negative way, but it's like your back starts to fall apart,
01:06:02.340 and you start to realize how many bones you have in your body as you get older.
01:06:05.000 And you're like, this isn't holding anybody up.
01:06:09.460 You figure out, like, what, like, but is your Continental, like, breakfast, like, just
01:06:14.800 Froot Loops, or is it, like, hot breakfast?
01:06:17.060 Oh, no.
01:06:17.540 Like, it's those things you start to, like, really appreciate on the road.
01:06:20.140 Like, do y'all have real eggs, or are they powdered eggs?
01:06:22.380 Because you can't say hot breakfast if it's powdered eggs.
01:06:24.220 That just doesn't count.
01:06:25.120 That's fair.
01:06:25.840 Doesn't count.
01:06:26.480 Yeah, that's more MREs.
01:06:28.480 Like, it's like MREs, but with a television that's on ESPN, you know?
01:06:31.780 Like, they'll have that set up.
01:06:32.920 Yep.
01:06:33.640 Yeah, God, I think, yes, I remember we used to go to the Continental Breakfast,
01:06:38.780 and we would pretend, like, the people there were waiters or whatever.
01:06:43.100 We weren't even supposed to be there.
01:06:43.960 We weren't staying there at the Holiday Inn, and we would go up there and eat up there.
01:06:47.780 My stepdad would take us up there.
01:06:49.040 But you're not staying there.
01:06:49.920 Huh?
01:06:50.280 Uh-uh.
01:06:51.220 And we'd go in that bitch and dine, honey.
01:06:54.040 You know what I'm saying?
01:06:55.140 And when they have happy hour, and it's in a box, but I'll take it.
01:06:58.220 It's fine.
01:06:58.900 Box wine.
01:06:59.440 It sounds great.
01:07:00.600 Let's do it.
01:07:02.040 Do you have a favorite party, like, birthday party that you ever had so far?
01:07:06.160 I know you just turned 40, you said?
01:07:07.580 I think it was this one.
01:07:08.940 Was it?
01:07:09.380 Yeah.
01:07:10.260 Did y'all go back to the casino?
01:07:11.960 No.
01:07:12.800 We went to Billy Bob's on a Monday.
01:07:15.720 Billy Bob's was, like, the biggest.
01:07:16.280 Oh, in Texas.
01:07:17.320 In Fort Worth.
01:07:17.640 Yeah, in the stockyards.
01:07:19.080 My friend Gwen, she sings with me in my band for 13 years, and she was like, where do you?
01:07:22.940 Because I was like, I don't know what to do.
01:07:24.180 There's so much pressure on that birthday.
01:07:26.680 Yeah.
01:07:27.000 You know, like, the big, the zero ones, you're like, I don't, I just would rather do nothing.
01:07:31.220 Like, I shut down, and she was, we were getting our hair done, and she was like, it was typical,
01:07:36.840 getting your hair done in the foils.
01:07:38.060 So she's like, where do you want to turn 40?
01:07:39.540 And I was like, she was like, I feel like you want to turn 40 at home in Texas.
01:07:43.380 Go back to the root, full circle.
01:07:45.680 And I was like, I do, I think.
01:07:47.640 And so Billy Bob's gave me the bar on a Monday, because they're closed.
01:07:52.260 And we had barbecue, and a bunch of my Texas friends, Randy Rogers and Wade Bowen and Adam Hood played.
01:07:59.780 And it was just a big old honky-tonk night.
01:08:01.460 And it was like, it felt like, man, this is like why I loved, why I started this in the first place.
01:08:07.220 Like, I just, I've been playing Billy Bob's for so long and going there to see shows.
01:08:11.140 And so I think that was my favorite birthday so far.
01:08:14.160 That's perfect.
01:08:15.160 Well, that's the most recent one, you know.
01:08:19.420 What else was I thinking about?
01:08:20.380 Anything in the news that we could think of?
01:08:21.900 Let me just pull it.
01:08:22.760 We'll get you out of here soon, too, Miranda.
01:08:24.120 I know you guys have a show.
01:08:25.120 You have a show tonight?
01:08:26.180 No, I don't.
01:08:27.420 Tomorrow.
01:08:27.740 Oh, tomorrow night?
01:08:28.280 Yeah.
01:08:28.600 Oh, lucky.
01:08:29.100 Tomorrow night.
01:08:30.680 Yep, for singing for the doggies.
01:08:32.640 Oh, for your pups?
01:08:34.020 Music for mutts, yeah.
01:08:35.180 It's a benefit for Mutt Nation.
01:08:37.180 Music for mutts.
01:08:38.040 And what qualifies a mutt, actually?
01:08:40.600 Just us.
01:08:43.060 All right.
01:08:45.940 Probably.
01:08:47.760 I don't know.
01:08:48.500 I have just rescue animals, and they're just all mixed little puppers.
01:08:55.060 I started a foundation in 2009 called Mutt Nation Foundation with my mom.
01:08:58.640 With your mom?
01:08:59.220 Yep.
01:08:59.920 That's her.
01:09:00.640 And we've raised over $10 million since then.
01:09:04.640 $10 million?
01:09:05.360 $10 million.
01:09:06.180 Wow.
01:09:06.500 We raise awareness for adoption, for spay-neuter, for adopt-don't-shop, and like right now with
01:09:11.500 the Hurricane Helene, we're doing a lot of work with Tractor Supply Rescue Relief and
01:09:16.020 with Greater Good to, you know, people are first, obviously, but there's tons of shelters
01:09:21.000 down there that were already overcrowded and got hit, and so just, there's a lot of moving
01:09:26.460 parts.
01:09:26.880 So really what our foundation does is kind of meet the need, whatever the need is.
01:09:30.820 You know, whether it's lifting up shelters, giving them grants for renovations, natural
01:09:35.660 disasters, we kind of run the gamut, but our main focus is to encourage people to adopt.
01:09:42.900 And once someone creates something like this, this foundation, right?
01:09:46.760 Yeah.
01:09:47.100 So this is a nonprofit organization.
01:09:49.940 How do you raise funds for it?
01:09:52.380 Obviously, you can do fundraiser shows.
01:09:53.860 You can put your own money into it.
01:09:55.460 And then how does, I'm just curious, how does a nonprofit even, well, I guess those are
01:10:01.020 the ways.
01:10:01.340 You put money into it, or you do fundraisers.
01:10:03.040 Yeah, we've done fundraisers.
01:10:04.040 I sing for the pups.
01:10:05.840 I mean, we haven't done a music one, but like for my Vegas residency, we gave a dollar a
01:10:10.220 ticket, and I was there for two years.
01:10:12.600 So a dollar a ticket, we've done that on tour, where a dollar a ticket goes to Mutt Nation.
01:10:17.160 And then this is our first benefit show in a couple of years, so I'm excited.
01:10:20.740 I got some friends coming out to sing, some surprises.
01:10:23.400 Really?
01:10:23.920 Yes.
01:10:24.300 It'll be fun.
01:10:24.720 Can any of the animals ever tune in?
01:10:26.420 Any of them ever hit a B sharp or something?
01:10:28.840 And have you ever trained any?
01:10:30.680 No.
01:10:31.420 My mom has this terrible shitty dog, though.
01:10:33.660 His name is Rhodey.
01:10:34.920 And he's just like my dad.
01:10:36.120 I know.
01:10:36.520 My dad found him on the side.
01:10:37.240 Was he held back in school?
01:10:38.780 Yes.
01:10:39.680 And he has an underbite, and he's a Chawini.
01:10:41.780 It's like the worst of all the world.
01:10:43.020 What is that?
01:10:43.740 And he's like my little shitty brother now, and that's what she calls him, because me
01:10:47.660 and my brother, my real brother, are like, God, this sibling of ours is terrible.
01:10:52.040 And he will sit there.
01:10:53.100 My dad plays guitar and writes songs, and it's specifically George Jones.
01:10:57.420 He stopped loving her today.
01:10:58.500 When dad starts singing that, that thing howls, and it's like this screeching, awful noise.
01:11:04.280 And you have to put it away.
01:11:05.880 Like, you have to put the dog in the house, and it's still, you could hear it howling.
01:11:08.860 And then that part where they go, ooh, ooh, ooh, that thing howls, and it's just like,
01:11:16.780 and my parents think it's cute, which is even worse.
01:11:18.660 Oh, God, dude.
01:11:19.240 I know.
01:11:19.860 It's the worst.
01:11:20.740 So, yeah.
01:11:21.560 They could be, some dogs sing.
01:11:23.580 Do you want them to?
01:11:24.420 Absolutely not.
01:11:25.860 But if you could organize them?
01:11:28.400 Well, yeah.
01:11:29.420 We could do like a family choir.
01:11:31.220 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
01:11:32.400 Yeah.
01:11:32.760 Get you a little batch of hounds in those church gowns or whatever.
01:11:37.220 Yeah, we could do it.
01:11:38.520 I mean, anything can be done.
01:11:40.660 We could ask Chad.
01:11:41.880 Yeah, yeah.
01:11:42.600 Chad will do it.
01:11:43.320 Ask Chad, GPT.
01:11:44.480 Hey, organize these mutts, guys.
01:11:47.800 Was there two pieces of news?
01:11:49.000 Anything else in the news?
01:11:49.820 What were the top two news stories that we had in there?
01:11:53.700 Oh, yeah.
01:11:55.140 And we don't have to talk about this either if you don't, if it's an awkward thing.
01:11:57.820 Yeah, Garth Brooks got accused of harassment.
01:11:59.640 Did you ever know him as a bad guy?
01:12:00.780 I always heard the nicest things about him.
01:12:02.440 I don't know him.
01:12:03.660 I just heard this today, so I have not been down.
01:12:07.040 The news, like, rabbit hole of this.
01:12:09.820 So it's fresh off the press.
01:12:11.760 I have nothing to say about it, but I'm, I want to read it.
01:12:15.180 I mean, I'm going to read it like everybody else.
01:12:17.480 I'm going to read it.
01:12:18.600 I want to know.
01:12:19.980 Yeah, no, I've always heard the nice things about him.
01:12:22.280 But he's always seemed kind of mysterious to me in a way.
01:12:25.460 Like, he always seemed like he's done his own thing, I guess.
01:12:28.540 You know?
01:12:29.040 He was the biggest artist when I was a kid.
01:12:31.620 He was my first concert.
01:12:32.780 Was he?
01:12:33.100 Yep, when I was 10 years old, night two at Texas Stadium.
01:12:36.720 And he flew in.
01:12:38.240 He, like, dropped out of a helicopter.
01:12:40.180 And they, when he did standing outside the fire, and they lit the whole stage on fire.
01:12:44.440 And I was like, and I, okay, this is bad.
01:12:46.840 But I had braces, but only two because I had a gap.
01:12:50.420 So I had to do the gap, close the gap on the front two teeth.
01:12:52.640 So just those two?
01:12:53.740 Yeah.
01:12:54.180 Who, hey, I haven't even heard of that.
01:12:55.440 Well, this was a while ago.
01:12:57.420 How does it even.
01:12:57.940 But they should never do this to a child ever again.
01:12:59.880 How does it even work?
01:13:00.180 Now they have, like, Invisalign.
01:13:01.160 It's not, it's not fair.
01:13:02.100 Kids these days don't have to be ugly.
01:13:03.700 Like, we were ugly.
01:13:04.840 Like, we had to just, I had scrunchy hair, and Jesus, and braces, and all things.
01:13:10.400 But I had the two braces when I saw that Garth Brooks show.
01:13:13.240 And I had all my Rockies.
01:13:14.400 Do you remember those jeans that were, like, real high-waisted with no back pockets?
01:13:17.780 And so everybody's butt looked real long.
01:13:19.500 And it had a, the label was black and white lettering?
01:13:22.120 Rockies, yeah.
01:13:22.700 Yeah.
01:13:23.300 And I had on those, and they were red.
01:13:24.640 I had on my Roper boots.
01:13:25.760 And I was so excited.
01:13:26.700 My flame shirt, I was, like, my brush popper, like.
01:13:29.980 And he came in and dropped out of that helicopter, and I was just, like, Garth.
01:13:33.120 And I was, like, screaming.
01:13:34.440 And I was, like, waving.
01:13:35.500 But I only had the two, and I had, like, pink rubber bands on them.
01:13:39.040 Yeah.
01:13:39.480 So just, like, totally.
01:13:40.640 And it was in that area where you would, like, curl one bang up and one down and tease it,
01:13:44.940 and it would look like a big cloud.
01:13:46.340 Oh, that was never an era.
01:13:47.400 But tell me more about it.
01:13:48.320 It was so bad.
01:13:49.060 It was so bad.
01:13:49.980 And I just was so excited.
01:13:51.220 And I was, like, I'm going to be a country singer.
01:13:53.940 It was epic.
01:13:56.700 Standing outside.
01:13:57.620 Oh, I was just singing all of it.
01:13:59.040 And I would get so excited when I could say, damned old rodeo.
01:14:02.480 My mom would be, like, that's cuss word.
01:14:05.100 And I'd be, like, well, Garth said it.
01:14:06.580 That's how I get to say it.
01:14:07.920 Dude, the beaches of Cheyenne.
01:14:09.900 So many good songs.
01:14:11.120 So many.
01:14:11.780 Yep.
01:14:12.000 That No Fences record.
01:14:14.120 I bought the tape.
01:14:15.620 I'm older than you.
01:14:16.720 I don't know if you are, and we used to play that tape together.
01:14:19.320 Oh, we used to play.
01:14:20.200 We used to, they used to have this thing called Crying, Loving, or Leaving on the radio.
01:14:23.260 Do you remember that?
01:14:23.860 Yes.
01:14:24.260 I loved that.
01:14:25.660 God.
01:14:25.880 Did you record the countdown?
01:14:27.300 Lux?
01:14:27.500 Yeah.
01:14:27.880 Same.
01:14:28.900 And you had to push the button at the exact right time.
01:14:30.800 Yeah.
01:14:31.340 And for, but for two years, the number one song was Whitney Houston.
01:14:37.460 I always loved you.
01:14:38.440 I was like, gee, can we just do something?
01:14:41.120 Can't Red Hot Chili Peppers do something?
01:14:42.920 Like, we just, it was this.
01:14:44.520 Why can't we do scar tissue?
01:14:46.740 It was the number one song for so long.
01:14:48.880 I was like, something's got to happen, man.
01:14:50.420 We need a war in this country.
01:14:51.980 You know, I was just like, we got it.
01:14:53.460 We needed something new in there.
01:14:54.920 But yeah, that was, and that's when all the music, some of the channels, even it was all
01:14:58.360 of the, it was all one, that top 40 was anything was in there.
01:15:01.980 Yeah.
01:15:02.300 Everything.
01:15:03.000 Cause it was Casey Kasem.
01:15:04.520 Yeah.
01:15:04.820 So it was like all of the songs.
01:15:06.480 Like it wasn't just one genre.
01:15:08.660 Crying, Loving, or Leaving was it though.
01:15:10.940 Hey, Ernie, where are you?
01:15:12.880 And he's like, yeah, I'm over here in Davenport, Iowa.
01:15:15.100 First time caller.
01:15:15.940 He'd be like, you Crying, Loving, or Leaving, Ernie?
01:15:18.140 And he'd be like, I'm loving.
01:15:20.180 I want to see if we could like find that and listen to it.
01:15:22.540 Like, I wonder if it exists somewhere on YouTube or something.
01:15:25.040 I would totally listen to that.
01:15:26.840 Yeah.
01:15:27.320 Oh, I called in.
01:15:27.980 I called in two times.
01:15:29.580 Got through.
01:15:30.540 I called in 60, 75 times.
01:15:32.420 What were you doing?
01:15:32.820 Crying, Loving, or Leaving?
01:15:33.800 I was loving one time.
01:15:35.580 And then I was leaving one time.
01:15:37.300 I was going to leave home.
01:15:38.540 I was going to go to the post office and mail myself somewhere else.
01:15:41.080 That was my goal.
01:15:42.860 And they're like, you can't do that, buddy.
01:15:44.420 You're going to mail yourself somewhere else.
01:15:46.420 Yep.
01:15:46.920 That'd be kind of cool.
01:15:48.060 I'm here.
01:15:49.400 Oh, I rode my bike all the way over there.
01:15:51.980 And it was closed.
01:15:52.900 I thought it was open 24 hours a day.
01:15:54.600 I'm like, what the hell can you guys can even?
01:15:58.120 But I just learned a lot that year.
01:16:00.680 But yeah, Crying, Loving, or Leaving.
01:16:01.680 Play one of them real quick for us if you can.
01:16:05.480 It exists.
01:16:06.420 Perfect one to pick, by the way.
01:16:17.900 Perfect.
01:16:20.080 Perfect.
01:16:21.360 There's no way we did not.
01:16:22.720 That is so perfect.
01:16:26.460 Brennan, I swear to God.
01:16:28.200 That was one of them.
01:16:29.620 We did not pick that on purpose.
01:16:31.960 I had no idea we were going to talk about that.
01:16:33.220 That was actually perfect.
01:16:35.160 Oh, my God.
01:16:36.340 My first wedding song, guys.
01:16:37.960 Let's play that.
01:16:40.160 Was it really?
01:16:41.120 I'm sorry.
01:16:41.440 It was.
01:16:43.420 You believe me, though, that we did not do that on purpose?
01:16:45.260 I love it.
01:16:46.520 We did not do that on purpose.
01:16:47.160 We just manifested all of that.
01:16:48.960 I would never do that on purpose.
01:16:49.860 We're Crying, Loving, ain't leaving now.
01:16:51.180 Bye.
01:16:53.240 Leaving.
01:16:54.080 Okay.
01:16:54.700 Done left.
01:16:55.500 Yeah.
01:16:56.340 All three.
01:16:57.200 We need to do a new spinoff of it.
01:16:59.400 They should have it.
01:17:00.520 I wonder if Kix Brooks does something like that.
01:17:02.120 Because I know he has a weekly show or something.
01:17:03.980 Yeah, he should.
01:17:04.160 But that was it, man.
01:17:05.080 When you were a kid waiting to hear if somebody was crying, loving her, leaving, you didn't even know.
01:17:08.940 I'm going to listen to these.
01:17:09.720 Not that one particular.
01:17:11.080 Where people were.
01:17:12.280 And if they did that on purpose, I'm sorry.
01:17:14.140 It's pretty funny.
01:17:14.560 I don't think they would do that.
01:17:15.840 It's pretty funny.
01:17:16.400 They're too nice of guys to actually do that.
01:17:21.640 About the new album, what's new about it?
01:17:24.820 What feels new to you about it?
01:17:26.060 Obviously, you have new tunes and that sort of thing.
01:17:30.600 But yeah, what feels exciting to you about it or anything different?
01:17:35.400 Well, I made it in Texas.
01:17:36.540 It's the first time I've recorded in Texas since I was 18.
01:17:39.140 Okay.
01:17:39.700 So back to your roots, kind of?
01:17:40.920 Back to the roots, yeah.
01:17:41.560 I wanted to go to Austin and just like really, it's a really honky-tonk record.
01:17:45.960 I mean, it sounds like my childhood.
01:17:47.500 It sounds like the music I grew up on.
01:17:49.420 And I think it's just because I have a new chapter, a new label, a new decade ahead of me of like whatever's going to happen.
01:17:57.540 And I wanted to like go back to the root of where the whole passion started to begin with, which was like playing those honky-tonks in Texas.
01:18:05.080 Like I think I had that sort of awakening when I had my birthday at Billy Bob's.
01:18:09.840 And I was like, I'm turning 40 at one of my favorite places on earth in my home state at a honky-tonk listening to country music.
01:18:15.280 And that's just where my heart lives at the end of the day is a honky-tonk listening to country music.
01:18:20.140 Yeah.
01:18:20.320 So it felt right to like make my own music that way this time, you know?
01:18:25.080 Yeah, it's hard for your heart to kind of get back home when your life gets busy like that in a way, you know?
01:18:29.800 It is.
01:18:30.180 And I have Austin, Austin.
01:18:31.400 I spend a lot of time in Austin.
01:18:32.720 I love Austin.
01:18:33.520 Me too.
01:18:33.900 My little brother lives there.
01:18:35.220 And I just, I don't know.
01:18:38.060 I always say I'm a TNT state girl because my heart's half in Tennessee, half in Texas.
01:18:44.980 But both places that I live revolve around music.
01:18:48.000 And I love that.
01:18:48.940 Yeah, it's like sometimes your life gets so busy and then you're like, it stops at a certain point.
01:18:53.880 Or there's a special day or a moment.
01:18:55.300 You're like, okay, I can get a look at where I'm at.
01:18:58.240 Yeah.
01:18:58.580 It's good to like have enough time to stop and look at where you're at because I didn't for so long.
01:19:04.240 I mean, when you're young and you start young following your dream and then you just sort of are a horse with blinders.
01:19:11.280 Then you stop and you go, okay, now what?
01:19:15.560 I made it.
01:19:16.140 Now what?
01:19:16.980 You know?
01:19:17.340 And it's like, it's kind of a weird spot to be.
01:19:21.060 But then once you embrace it, which is where I feel like I am right now, just embracing like, look what I've done so far.
01:19:28.280 But like what else can we do?
01:19:29.840 You know?
01:19:30.280 Yeah.
01:19:30.500 I still feel really inspired and excited.
01:19:32.500 I mean, I definitely don't have the same energy for like long, you know, 150 days a year on the road or anything.
01:19:39.560 But I'm still so inspired to like write songs and, you know, I love the music.
01:19:44.860 I can't.
01:19:45.600 It's my life.
01:19:46.500 I dedicated my whole life to it.
01:19:48.840 It is funny.
01:19:49.420 You kind of, yeah, you do when you get busy and your career gets busy.
01:19:52.640 A lot of you gets dedicated to what it is.
01:19:54.700 It's like I spend most of my time, like I have some close friends I don't even get to talk to that much.
01:20:00.700 And I know it's sad to say, people are like, well, you work instead of talk to them.
01:20:04.480 But it's almost like you build up your dream, but then your dream takes a lot of responsibility.
01:20:09.340 Yeah.
01:20:09.920 And nobody tells you what to do when you have done it.
01:20:14.060 Like there's not like a manual you can like, there's not like a podcast you can like go back and look at and be like,
01:20:20.520 so now what happens at this point in my career at this age with this, these accolades, like what happens now?
01:20:25.960 You just figure it out as you go.
01:20:27.860 And, you know, I'm like working with younger artists now and like newer artists.
01:20:33.500 I have a label called Big Loud Texas.
01:20:35.300 Oh, yeah.
01:20:35.800 We partnership with Big Loud.
01:20:37.520 Oh, that's your, so you guys have a branch there now.
01:20:40.020 Yep.
01:20:40.340 Oh, that's awesome, dude.
01:20:41.520 And it's, you know, keeping that.
01:20:43.360 Steven Wilson Jr. on Big Loud too?
01:20:44.640 He's on Big Loud.
01:20:45.180 Let's go.
01:20:45.680 Yeah.
01:20:46.420 So he's playing in Nashville.
01:20:47.980 Patches on patches on patches.
01:20:49.240 So good.
01:20:49.700 He is, yeah.
01:20:50.820 Torn Cigarette.
01:20:51.900 Oh, when he said, is this song called Torn Cigarette?
01:20:54.160 It's called Patches.
01:20:55.340 Oh, that lyric that he says?
01:20:56.560 I'm a torn cigarette.
01:20:57.620 My patches got patched.
01:20:58.520 It's so good.
01:20:59.260 But he is playing in Nashville.
01:21:01.760 Everyone.
01:21:02.360 December 4th.
01:21:04.320 Tethered.
01:21:04.880 So good.
01:21:05.560 My father's son.
01:21:06.680 Drain my blood.
01:21:08.400 Dude, God.
01:21:09.240 It's like the, it's one of the greatest records that's come out in a decade.
01:21:12.700 That's our audio slave, man.
01:21:14.100 It really is.
01:21:14.800 Because it's all of it.
01:21:15.720 Yeah.
01:21:15.900 It's hillbilly and it's rage and it's sad and it's funny.
01:21:19.700 And even as a Native American, some of the beats, some of the drums that he uses have
01:21:23.620 a very like native sound to me.
01:21:25.900 It's great.
01:21:26.540 It blows me.
01:21:27.700 I'm like, and I keep finding new songs on it that I like.
01:21:30.680 That's, that's what's always amazing.
01:21:31.980 Like you keep going back and re-hearing them.
01:21:33.720 Yeah.
01:21:33.840 And you're like, oh, now this one I like.
01:21:35.600 Now this hit me weird.
01:21:36.420 Yeah.
01:21:36.700 Yeah.
01:21:37.180 Let's get fucking weird, buddy.
01:21:39.980 Anyway.
01:21:40.620 I also like to do wears his like little vest.
01:21:43.180 He's just like wears his little vest in all his videos.
01:21:45.340 He's just sitting there freaking slaying the guitar and he's just like his little puffy
01:21:50.140 vest.
01:21:50.760 Yeah.
01:21:51.200 Just cozy.
01:21:52.400 I love it.
01:21:53.240 There he is.
01:21:53.860 It's his puffy vest.
01:21:55.100 I love it.
01:21:56.220 He looks like a lifeguard at Woodstock kind of in a way.
01:21:59.580 Yeah.
01:21:59.680 You know what I'm saying?
01:22:00.160 He has a very safe, but risque vibe, dude.
01:22:06.600 You can tell.
01:22:06.980 And he's so sweet, by the way.
01:22:08.180 Like the sweetest.
01:22:09.520 You can tell like, I've just listened to some interviews and stuff with him and just listen
01:22:13.120 to his music.
01:22:13.580 I got to see him play one night at Whiskey Jam.
01:22:15.960 Yeah.
01:22:16.300 At Whiskey Jam.
01:22:17.040 And that was so cool.
01:22:18.440 But yeah, it's amazing.
01:22:20.300 Him, Red Clay Strays, I've been listening to.
01:22:22.340 Is it great?
01:22:23.680 So much good music out there.
01:22:25.000 So much.
01:22:25.500 Yep.
01:22:25.620 So many great.
01:22:26.580 Laini Wilson, I know you talk to her.
01:22:28.280 I love her so much.
01:22:29.120 God, if they had 11 Laini Wilsons.
01:22:32.060 Good gal pal.
01:22:32.900 You'd be in there in the donut box with 11 Laini Wilsons.
01:22:35.660 Because there would, dude.
01:22:37.060 Yeah.
01:22:38.020 Yeah.
01:22:38.400 And you'd be the cop.
01:22:39.420 I would.
01:22:40.220 Well, no.
01:22:40.780 Well, look.
01:22:41.260 Like, what are y'all doing?
01:22:42.360 Hey, what are you doing in there, huh?
01:22:44.120 With the New York accent.
01:22:45.200 I got to work on that.
01:22:46.360 Hey, what are you doing in there?
01:22:48.460 Anyway, Miranda Lambert, thank you so much for all the beautiful music.
01:22:51.520 Thank you for spending time with us today and just sharing a little bit of your life.
01:22:55.060 And yeah.
01:22:55.920 And thanks for just like the inspiration and just being a space of like, hey, this is
01:22:59.100 where you are and now let's see where we are and let's make the best stuff yet to come.
01:23:05.060 And yeah, I just really enjoyed my time.
01:23:08.100 Well, thank you.
01:23:08.720 We got deep and it was good.
01:23:10.180 I liked it.
01:23:11.060 Yeah.
01:23:11.360 We talked about some good songs too.
01:23:12.940 It's nice.
01:23:13.680 Yep.
01:23:13.920 We sure did.
01:23:14.960 Your new album is out.
01:23:16.860 It is.
01:23:17.460 It is.
01:23:17.920 It's called Postcards from Texas.
01:23:19.120 Postcards from Texas.
01:23:20.620 And yeah, we'll be listening to it.
01:23:23.920 And you got to check out Aaron Ratier.
01:23:26.000 Okay.
01:23:26.400 You're going to like him.
01:23:27.080 Okay.
01:23:27.460 Quirky one.
01:23:28.220 Yeah?
01:23:28.620 Yeah.
01:23:29.480 All right.
01:23:30.760 I'm in.
01:23:31.500 Thank you so much.
01:23:32.340 Thank you.
01:23:32.840 Yep.
01:23:33.000 Now, I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
01:23:38.900 I must be cornerstone.
01:23:44.120 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
01:23:49.520 And I can feel it in my bones, but it's going to take.