E537 Miranda Lambert
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Summary
Grammy Award Winning Country Music Musician Miranda Lambert joins me to talk about her new album, Postcards From Texas, and how she met her husband, a retired New York City Police Officer, on an Air Canada flight.
Transcript
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We hope you're enjoying your Air Canada flight.
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Fast-free Wi-Fi means I can make dinner reservations before we land.
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Wi-Fi available to Airplane members on Equipped Flight.
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This week, I'll be in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, La Crosse, Wisconsin, Green Bay, Wisconsin, and Moline, Illinois.
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Colorado Springs, Casper, Wyoming, Billings, Montana, Missoula, Montana, Bloomington, Indiana, Columbus, Ohio, Champaign, Grand Rapids, Lafayette, Louisiana, and Beaumont, Texas.
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Today's guest is a Grammy Award winning country musician.
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She has a new album called Postcards from Texas.
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And you know her songs, The House That Built Me, Drunk, January Heart, The List Goes On, Red Wagon.
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I'm really grateful today to get to spend time with one of the queens of the country music industry, Miss Miranda Lambert.
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Kind of get to, you know, just catch up with folks and see what's going on.
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Y'all randomly on like two or three planes together.
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We're like kind of, I guess, air buddies or whatever.
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I don't know if there's a term for it or whatever.
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I see that guy and I'm like, God, I got to get some conditioner or whatever.
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And did you, you guys ever play cops and robbers or anything like that?
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No, but last year or two years ago for Halloween, I got, I wore his uniform and I made him be
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a donut and it was awesome because he's super fit and doesn't even eat donuts.
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And I was like, I'm going to be a cop and you're going to be a donut.
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I couldn't even imagine not wanting to be a donut.
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I think everybody's always just wanted to sit in a box with 11 of their buddies, you know?
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Well, it's funny because that whole like cliche or whatever, but I was like, and I was worried
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My dad, my whole family is first responders and so is his family.
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Did you guys ever, has he ever like tased you or anything like that?
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And he has handcuffs and I'm like, that would be the one time that the key was gone.
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Oh, if you're ever in Shreveport or whatever, and you're, I guess, have some free time or whatever,
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For, yeah, for, there's not a lot to do there, I guess.
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I grew up like, right, like an hour from Shreveport.
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I used to play over there in little bars and casinos coming up.
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My grandma was a VIP there because she spends a lot of money on the slots.
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So she got the limo and all that, and I went with my grandma and her friends for my 21st
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A lot of these seniors now, you can't, well, you see them in the pools and everything,
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and they have those weights, and they're just doing it all.
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Every time I see seniors, they're just getting crazier and crazier.
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Do they have a senior citizen dating website, I wonder?
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I don't know, but my granddad would just give her, like, allowance, like, stay out of my
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hair money, and so she would just go blow it at the casino.
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Was she one of those grandmas that, like, at the end of the year, they buy all the Christmas
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And they all say, like, Sam's Town or whatever on the back?
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Yeah, and she would always, like, buy and then wrap them and forget that she did it.
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She'd be like, I don't know when I bought that or what it is.
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Like, you can even get one on Timu that also, like, beats eggs and stuff.
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So your 21st birthday, you guys went over there.
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Was that, like, the biggest city close to you guys?
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So, like, I-20, my little hometown, Lindale, Texas, is, like, the halfway point where you,
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My first, like, my first big girl job, well, I worked at this little department store called
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They hired me to wrap presents, which I'm terrible at.
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So then they were, like, these presents are terrible.
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So they put me in the back room to, like, sort things.
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I was, like, I just started singing and playing.
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I was 17, but I needed, like, I was not making any money.
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And so I tried for that, like, you know, that, like, holiday season extra money and
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realized quickly, like, I've got to make the music business work because this is not for
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Yeah, if they put you in the back to sort, that's not even.
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Well, because I, someone lady asked me, like, does this look good on me?
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Yeah, I'm trying to think if I, well, I used to work at a pizza parlor for a while.
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It's, like, there was four of us working there.
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But I guess they had, like, cutbacks or whatever.
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But I wonder if I ever worked at a department store.
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And had the salad bar and had little corndogs on it.
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It was like Pizza Hut, but, like, small town brand.
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I've actually seen it in real time now because my husband is from New York City.
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And some dude, I think he was a magician, but they gave him, like, daytime work throwing
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those pizzas in the air because I think it just fit in people's heads.
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Oh, he was, I think he really got the hang of it, and it was awesome.
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People would come from miles around to watch him, you know?
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You'd see kids just out there just licking lollipops, just staring at him, looking at
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When the fair came to town, that was always exciting.
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We could go to the fair a day before, and for 50 cents, you could, you were kind of a guinea
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pig, they didn't tell you that, but it was like, come on over, and you can do a ride
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So, we lived right down the street from the fairgrounds, so we'd walk down there, dude,
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And I think that's probably a wise choice for you, you know?
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You seem like a drill tracer because you got tased, and you ride the 50-cent ride.
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I think, yeah, if you stack all those things up.
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How does a guy, this is news, so how does, because your husband was just like a regular
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How does a regular police officer meet a celebrity comfortably?
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No, I mean, honestly, like, we're kind of from the same fabric, so it was, though,
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the weirdest part of it all is the language barrier at first, honestly, because he has
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So it was like, any of my Southern phrases, any of the, like, redneck stuff I say, he's
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like, well, I don't understand what you're saying.
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So, but we just met, we met by chance, literally on the street, and like, and six years later,
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But was there moments where he was like, you know, this is like, because I feel like
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if I'm a regular guy, say if I met, you know, Julia Roberts, or trying to think of somebody
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else, Queen Elizabeth or something, and I'm trying to date him, I would, I wonder if there
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would be moments in my head where I'm like, how do I do this?
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Like, what do, how do I, just because there's some-
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Well, Brendan does wear the polo, like the old school one.
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I was like, I was always the guy who, like, would, like, would help my buddy open all the
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valentines, like on valentines in school, they would have, like, the key club or whatever
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would come in, and if somebody bought you a valentine, they'd give them all out in the
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room at the same time, so my buddy would get, like, 11 of them, and I wouldn't get any,
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but he'd let me, like, hold a couple of them on my desk or whatever.
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Isn't it, like, wouldn't it, like, the one where you give everybody in the class one so
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Oh, when we were kids, but when it got into junior high, it got, like, okay, somebody
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Yeah, and you would get him, and he would just have a stack of them.
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You're going to get so many valentines now, it's going to be weird, because you talked
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My mom wouldn't get us, like, something that she would, like, leave by our, like, bed or
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So, um, but yeah, was there ever a moment where he was just, like, where it just seemed
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like nerd, like, he's like, I'm a regular guy, and you're a regular person, but then
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there's always, like, a, I think there's a fear in, like, a regular guy's head of, like,
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how you would behave around a celebrity, I guess.
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Yeah, and it definitely is an adjustment to, like, just jump into country music world
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I mean, he, like, retired, you know, he was eight years on the department, and he, like,
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We made the choice together of, like, we got to be together, you know, and-
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Yeah, to trade your gun in for a harmonica or whatever is a big deal.
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I think, um, well, thank God he didn't, because I don't know if he- he loves music.
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Yeah, I was like, let's write songs, and so we did, and he was pretty good, and I guess
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because, I mean, growing up in New York City and, like, being a cop on the street in Times
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Square, like, you have a lot of life lived, you know, and so this record, he has, um, a
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co-writer on my song called Damn It Randy, and he had some of the best lines in the song.
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Oh, wait, I've heard that when something, like, in a hurricane.
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But, yeah, you know, I think that, like, all the celebrity part out of it, I don't care
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So, it just made it, we're just real and regular, and, like, like I said, both being from first
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responder families, like, we kind of grew up the same.
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I'm just trying to inspire, like, regular men out there to think that they could handle
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it if they met a celebrity person in that world, that they, everything could be cool.
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They can, and you know what, it's like, I'm such a big stickler of, like, don't surround
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yourself with yes people, and so, having a husband that's just a regular guy, like,
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just being a cop in New York City, and, like, he comes into my world, but he tells me the
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He sees everything for what it is, and I really appreciate that.
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Like, there's, the fact that he's not in my industry at all, and just really kind of,
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if it's a straight shooter, it's like, it's such a blessing to have in my life, and so,
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I'm glad that I married somebody that just, like, is that way, that is just a regular
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blue-collar guy that sort of comes in and enhances my world and speaks a lot of truth
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He also married, like, a country singer and a horse girl, and so, I mean, he signed up
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Because horse girls are like, we're a different breed.
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I just met, I went to a therapy place for, like, a week, and they had horses out there,
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and one of the therapists, like, worked with the horses.
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She was, like, the horse therapist lady or whatever, like the-
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Yeah, and so, like, she had me out there hugging this big old horse.
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It teaches you so much, like, where they're like, put your hand where you feel like the-
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Put your hand where you feel most drawn to the horse and, like, immediately put my hand
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Now that I think about it, like, I was like, I don't know where it is in that huge shot chest.
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I was trying to take his pulse, and I had to do it with both of my hands like that.
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They just got, like, 60 inches of neck on them.
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But, yeah, it was kind of wild, because at first, she's like, okay, approach the horse
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I think his name was Knuckles or, like, Mitten or something.
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And I'm like, hey, horse, I'm just letting you know I'm here.
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Like, it was almost like meeting an alien, because I'd just never even been around a horse,
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like, in that much, like, proximity, like, just being a horse in a pen.
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But by the end, I got to take the horse for a walk and stuff, and I felt like it was cool.
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Because at first, I was super nervous, and as I went along, it kind of, like, I kind of, like, my idol came down.
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And that, they're so therapeutic, just being around them in general.
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And I heard, I think they can hear your heartbeat from, like, five miles away or something.
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It's like, they tell you the truth about you before you even know your own truth.
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And I just wanted to do something that scared me a little.
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Like, I used to play all the rodeos back in the day and, like, singing the national anthem
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And all those, like, flag girls and the barrel racers with all the glitter and fringe, I
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And so I was, like, at 30, I was like, I'm going to be a cowgirl.
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And so I started riding for the first time at 30.
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But I just love, like, having a hobby completely outside of what I do that's challenging and
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It is, like, that's the dang Lord's Uber, dude, being on a horseback.
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Bro, you get on a horse, it is not, it's, like, kind of up to you.
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You're, like, these strings are not going to do anything against this horse, you know?
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No, like, I just saw that pull up on the screen.
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So, like, shooting a revolver with black powder off the back of the horse at a balloon.
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It's spectator safe and the horses wear earplugs.
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And so you do these patterns and you go, like, 100 miles an hour.
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My friend, Kenda Lonsane, she's, like, the world champion.
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Like, she has taken me under her wing and taught me so much about it.
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Look, she can shoot me in the belt buckle and see if my pants drop.
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So you have two revolvers, and you have five shots in each.
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So, like, come out of the gate, and, like, she does it in, like, 7.5 seconds, which I'm
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So you're shooting at a pattern of balloons, and you're timed on the event.
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So while you're riding 100 miles an hour, you're having to shoot, aim, switch your gun,
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I was one of those, like, I did it once and loved it so much.
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But I just, you know, I feel like at 30, I started riding.
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And then I turned 40 in November, last November.
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And I was like, all right, now's a new season to keep pushing myself and try something that's
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a little scary but new and outside of my wheelhouse.
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All my friends have a crush on you, by the way.
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I've been trying to be like, we have more like, kind of like brave about just like dating
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Because I just get like, I start to get like turning into a little bit of a home body sometimes.
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You're with somebody, but then you're like, who is that person though?
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It has to be the right person or you'd rather be by yourself.
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I don't want somebody just freaking bugging me and bothering me and wanting pancakes or whatever.
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Like my mom used to do like the Mickey Mouse one where she would like pour the batter in
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Oh, our mom had like one of those things and it would sit on the table and it had a little
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dial on it and it would heat the skillet like that and you plugged it in, right?
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And she, one time she did it though on like her wood table and it roasted like a little
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hole in it and she got, we all got in, we got in trouble for it.
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How dare y'all want pancakes and make me burn my table.
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Well, that's why you went to the horse therapy.
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So, you got to tour with, and you have a new album out, I know that, and we're going
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What's one of your favorite songs out for your new album that you like performing?
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Because as a comedian, there's jokes you like telling and then there's some jokes you're
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Is there a song off of it that you really like performing?
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I mean, I just started doing some of them because we did a little thing at my bar,
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Caceroso, which I think is the first time I met you.
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Yeah, we did the whole record, which was like, it's always fun to do.
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I've only done that one other time with my record, Revolution, a long time ago.
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So, it was fun to like actually learn every song and like I didn't really know them that
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I was like, it's my first time to play these, you know what I mean?
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But I think, I don't know, there's one on there called Armadillo.
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And my friend, Aaron Ray-Tierre, I don't know if you know him.
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And y'all should be friends because he's funny as hell and the funnest and cool.
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Yeah, and he sent me this song and it's just funny and quirky.
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I've only done it a couple times, but it's fun.
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I was lucky enough, like, I went on so many, well, there weren't hardly any women touring
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Well, like, in country, there wasn't that many touring that much.
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I mean, in the early days, you got to play, like, 200 shows a year, you know?
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And then, because I just played Honky Tonks until then.
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Toby, I think, was, like, my fourth big, like, major country tour.
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I've gotten to meet some different artists that I'm a big fan of.
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And, you know, he was kind of a tough love at first out on the road.
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But I guess I needed that because I was a baby and didn't know, you know, what was going on yet.
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And it was, it was, I learned so much from every tour I was on.
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And I would say Toby was just, like, like, his fans taught me a lot, too, because they were really about Toby only.
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Like, you had to work to get them to care, you know, because they were like, we're here to see Toby.
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And he's, his, like, outlaw kind of I am who I am mentality.
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And I felt like it made me work for it in a good way.
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Like, I had to really figure out my set list and figure out, like, I'm just some little gal.
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And if they're here early, I really need to, I'm here to gain fans.
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Did you get to interact with him before he passed away?
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I did see him at the BMI Awards when he got the Songwriter Legend Award a couple years ago.
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I just, because it was, I knew people knew he was sick for a long time.
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He just didn't, like, put much out there about it, it seemed like.
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Well, and I was, I mean, when he was there, he sounded great and he looked great.
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So, I mean, you know, that journey is like, everybody's got to take that journey and however
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they feel comfortable and their family and all that stuff.
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But I know that he was, even at the end, like, really about the music, you know?
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Because the last big thing I saw him out was the BMI's and it was all about his catalog.
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And I did not realize how many, he wrote like 150 songs a year or something, like crazy.
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And I also didn't realize how many outside songs he cut, like, or that he had other artists
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Is there ever a song where you write it and you think it's good, but it's not for you?
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And I, you know, it's, I'm thankful that some artists are still willing to cut outside
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What does that mean, that they're willing to cut outside songs?
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Like, like, you can't write every, you can't cut every song you ever write, you know?
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And so, for instance, Aaron sent me Armadillo and I was like, I love this, I'm cutting it.
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So, you know, I think it's important if you're a songwriter to have a balance of, we live in
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Nashville, like, there's amazing songs written all day, every day in this town for years.
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And I think it's cool when artists are not trying to write every song on their records.
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Oh, I see what you're saying, because at a certain point, it, it almost, you're just
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able to help out more people by picking up songs that they've written, really.
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And, you know, like, for my career, I mean, my biggest songs, I wouldn't have if I would
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I mean, like, House That Built Me is a staple in my career.
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Like, I have some of the staples drunk, some of the staples in my set that are like career
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So I think it's good to keep the door open to like, you know, look around town, look where
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That's one thing I realized, like, kind of like, as I get older, it's like, I used to
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And it still is a lot of times, but it's certainly, it started to alleviate some where
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I need people to do, and I need people to help me do things.
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And then it's more fun to do something with somebody sometimes.
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And it's like when you celebrate the highs with your friends, because you all did it
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Like everybody's, I mean, you know, you live here, like everybody's so, um, country music
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community is very collaborative and we lift each other up.
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We kind of stick together, you know, you don't have to look.
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And not that you have to love every single person you ever work with or in the business,
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but I feel like everybody's kind of in it for the same reason.
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Yeah, I guess, but it's also competitive, right?
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But I think there's a difference in my manager.
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We've been together 21 years and I just recently went on a birthday trip with her and one of
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her really good friends who's born and raised in Bellmead.
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And she said, there's a difference in wanting to win and wanting to beat everybody.
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I was like, that, that it, cause that's a different mindset.
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Like, it's okay to want to win and, and like compete and be on top.
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But I don't, I don't think you have to want to go into it going, I'm going to beat everybody.
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It's not vindictive, but it's almost, um, yeah, I'm trying to think of the word.
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Thanks for thinking about that kind of stuff with me.
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You, uh, like you'll drop a tomato at Trader Joe's and somebody will come up and have half
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You know, it's like, yeah, you get in a car accident and the guy gets out of the vehicle
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and he's already written a couple bars about the accident.
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And I'm like, what do you think about give me your insurance papers?
00:31:21.540
Now that we talked about it, it's even weirder if there's gloves in there.
00:31:28.240
Because people used to put, the name is derived from the compartment's original purpose,
00:31:34.180
Initially, the glove compartment was a box near the driver on the floor.
00:31:38.120
Driving gloves are worn to keep hands clean and considered essential equipment in early
00:31:43.340
Driving gloves are important for women now, too, because our hands, they like keep you from
00:31:49.500
And like, I didn't know that, but like driving gloves are a thing.
00:31:53.460
Because the sun on coming through the windshield, you wear like gloves while you drive so that
00:32:11.700
I ride my horse with gloves on now because I'm like, oh, God, I don't want aging hands.
00:32:20.960
Because you can hide everything else, but you can't just show up to something with mittens
00:32:25.180
No, but Dolly does wear those sheer gloves with the rhinestones, and I'm kind of like
00:32:32.940
I heard that, too, but whoever really knows the answer.
00:32:43.440
Somebody knows, and we're going to have to get to the bottom of this.
00:32:52.960
If it's possible for her to be more badass, that makes it more badass.
00:32:57.720
Oh, if she came out in one of those ESPN where they do the nude, like they're pushing
00:33:02.820
a baby carriage, but they're naked or whatever.
00:33:06.080
If she came out and she was full body tatted, dude, it would be crazy.
00:33:23.020
Because I don't know about the top, like the top of your arm, like as you age, like does
00:33:27.820
So I just have them down here where they can't like swing at some point in my life.
00:33:36.500
You get a chair and then years later it's a swing set.
00:33:40.120
You're like, oh, that's a damn fourth swing right there.
00:33:44.160
Is there an artist that passed away that like you really missed their music?
00:33:57.640
Haggard, like he was such a, like my number one hero.
00:34:05.280
And like, I guess it was like the first kind of, oh my God, one of my heroes is gone, you
00:34:13.760
I was lucky enough to get to sing with him and meet him and know his family.
00:34:20.320
In fact, I just saw his family this past summer at the Plain State Fair and Ben Haggard and
00:34:28.740
That was, Merle's my like, number one, you know.
00:34:33.820
What did you admire about him, you think, so much?
00:34:35.940
I think that, you know, he, one of my favorite quotes is from Johnny Cash and he said, I sing
00:34:41.860
about the things that Merle Haggard actually lived.
00:34:48.200
Like he didn't have a glamorous childhood or upbringing and he took his outlaw and sort
00:34:53.560
of the troubled times of his life, turned him into songs and turned it into a beautiful
00:34:59.380
And every time I was ever around him, he's one of those heroes that like is exactly what
00:35:07.200
Like a little mysterious, but super kind, you know.
00:35:09.760
And it's always like, meet your heroes or not, it's scary.
00:35:13.500
Because what if they're, what if they let you down?
00:35:18.420
Like all these pictures they're bringing up, like tease it to Jesus.
00:35:31.740
Um, what's a song that you put on, like, say like everybody has songs when they want
00:35:38.860
So like you have like, man, I really want to feel something right now.
00:35:45.520
So I'll put on like, um, like I used to put on like Trace Adkins, uh, every light in
00:36:05.340
And I would sit on my porch and just smoke cigarettes.
00:36:09.120
You, well, everybody smokes when they break up.
00:36:11.540
I would just smoke and I'd play that on repeat till my neighbors were like, what the
00:36:18.780
I think, uh, Nobody in His Right Mind by George Strait.
00:36:35.920
Um, and George Strait, we call him the king for a reason.
00:36:53.800
We need to go to that horse therapy place immediately.
00:37:02.300
Oh man, my friend Jesse Alexander wrote that song.
00:37:07.320
I don't know who she wrote it with, but I know she wrote it.
00:37:19.460
It's like, but you also, if he doesn't perform it, if somebody else does, who knows if it
00:37:27.040
Like the right song finds the right artist at the right time.
00:37:32.280
The house that built me too, I had, I saw some, the writers of that song, it took them
00:37:41.300
like, they wrote that song for like seven years.
00:37:51.960
Like, I'm like, I'm kind of millennial about my, like, I know I want to come into this co-write
00:37:59.220
Like in, you know, four hours you get a song or two hours or whatever it is.
00:38:04.640
I, I don't know that I could have stuck with it for seven years.
00:38:07.760
It's a lesson to all of us to like be patient till it's right.
00:38:13.980
They made like a real Sistine Chapel with that one.
00:38:16.960
Dude, I remember, it's kind of weird maybe, but like I grew up in like a pretty traumatic
00:38:21.080
youth, you know, and, uh, and I heard that song, this is a couple of years ago, maybe two
00:38:29.860
I was in my town where I grew up and I went and got it like an orchid or whatever from
00:38:39.460
And I took it back to the place that I grew up at and I went, this sounds really bizarre
00:38:48.220
It was like, I, I knocked on the door and I gave him that.
00:39:02.980
So it was interesting to write it down, but honestly, I, but it's funny that what a song
00:39:09.740
Cause that's, I didn't write that song, but I was like, how did they know my story?
00:39:12.940
Like, but my guitar player that was with me for forever since I was 17, we lost him
00:39:18.100
two years ago, but he said, I, that is, that song hits me because it's what I wish I
00:39:26.540
And that sounds like what you're talking about.
00:39:28.260
Like, and I never thought about it from that perspective.
00:39:30.540
Oh, he wished he'd had those things at his home.
00:39:32.100
Like he wished he would have had the house that built him.
00:39:37.580
So, you know, but I, I just, I love a song like that.
00:39:41.220
And the fact that they waited it out and just stayed with it is like goals.
00:39:52.280
Who knows like what things, and that's what's the one thing that's nice about life.
00:39:56.000
It's like, you don't know the little things you're doing now, how they'll merge with
00:39:59.400
like the things you're doing later on and how it'll help you form like wherever you're
00:40:04.180
Like sometimes it's so hard to get through, um, just the moment, you know, but you don't
00:40:08.720
realize that the moment are the stairs that are going to get you to the place you're supposed
00:40:18.940
And those people must have thought I was batshit crazy.
00:40:21.840
No, but it's not like the house I grew up in was an old tobacco farm and it was a house
00:40:26.580
built in 1905 and it was just a farmhouse, no central heat and air, one bathroom, like
00:40:35.860
Like we didn't have a lot growing up, but people constantly stopped by there, specifically
00:40:45.860
They would just be standing on the front porch crying.
00:40:47.480
And I was like 10, like hiding behind my mom going like trying to eavesdrop and like,
00:40:52.780
You know, that they had so many memories there and those, those handprints were there.
00:40:56.440
That's why I thought when I heard the song, I was like, have they been eavesdropping on
00:40:59.340
my whole life, like because it was such an old farmhouse that had so many stories in
00:41:04.320
it and it touched so many people's lives, you know?
00:41:08.580
I think that's one thing that's amazing about art is that it can do that.
00:41:12.680
I mean, I think you could, it's just powerful, you know, that the beats and the words and
00:41:18.720
you put it all together the right way and it unlocks something.
00:41:22.400
And it's like, everybody feels like, okay, I'm not alone in this world.
00:41:26.620
And this, this, whatever's happening to me, good, bad, or ugly, I'm not the only one.
00:41:30.980
That's the beauty of a song or any art, really, truly, but especially songs.
00:41:40.700
I'm a music lover, like especially country ones.
00:41:42.920
Cause we just tell the, tell the sad truths no matter what, like you get in your feels,
00:41:49.060
So what do you listen to when you're like wanting to like rage or like rock out or.
00:41:53.840
I mean, I'll put on before, well, I mean, before I go on stage, I listen to, uh, FGL
00:41:59.360
It's a little uptempo for me, but it's also kind of, kind of chill.
00:42:04.320
And then I'll put on a little bit of boozy bad-ass and listen to him.
00:42:08.620
You know, I might even go some sexy red or something like that.
00:42:13.820
I mean, sometimes I'll put on maybe like sound garden or like, um, uh, I've been listening
00:42:34.440
I wrote with him and Natalie, him be, um, recently.
00:42:36.680
And we wrote this song called, well, the hook is, I don't want to see the movie.
00:42:40.720
If the dog dies, like all of us sitting there crying, it was just like the most magical
00:42:46.400
And it was Steven's idea obviously shows up with that and my dogs were there and they're
00:42:52.200
They're like, Hey, let's don't finish the song.
00:42:58.980
Like that's my really, what do you wear while you listen to people?
00:43:03.260
Like, what do you, what people would be surprised to know about you?
00:43:18.000
No, I definitely noticed that some of it's in you, you know?
00:43:20.860
And yeah, I've been victim of it for sure, dude.
00:43:23.260
I've got a couple of angry women in my texts, in my D and my dang.
00:43:33.420
A song will get you activated or to get you ready for like a certain moment or something.
00:43:37.800
Did you ever have to play at a funeral or anything?
00:43:40.020
Did you ever get asked to do something like that?
00:43:47.360
I had to sing at my grandma's and I had to sing at a friend that was like my age.
00:43:55.040
It was the first like, like reality check, like teen years, high school friend.
00:44:03.720
And her family asked me to sing and I did, but it was, it was just one of the hardest
00:44:12.720
So I, I, but you know, when you're given a gift, like, what are you going to say?
00:44:18.140
I'm not going to use it to celebrate someone that was amazing.
00:44:26.960
Oh, one time I was at a funeral and some, uh, the person that sang, it was a girl and
00:44:46.080
If Kenny's right there in the casket and she's just like, who's people were like, we can't
00:44:52.580
Honestly, like there's like four people on earth that should sing that song and that's
00:44:57.280
And she made it to like this and people wait and some people started going like this.
00:45:02.120
Cause part of it is just, I just feel so comfortable right now.
00:45:04.500
I'm going to go down those spiral stairs and leave forever right now.
00:45:23.580
And so he had to get me a suit for a funeral one time.
00:45:37.140
Like not even, I don't even know if it was real textiles.
00:45:42.200
I don't even know if it was real textiles or whatever.
00:45:44.340
But anyway, I, so I go to this funeral dude in a dang Beetlejuice costume, bro.
00:46:00.840
But, you know, I guess that's what happens when you send a senior citizen to the, it wasn't Rite Aid back then.
00:46:06.720
It was called KMB was a store they had that had them a couple of costumes over there.
00:46:20.900
I was like, I don't have anything to say to that.
00:46:24.740
I heard a rumor that you got to meet Gypsy Rose when she was a Make-A-Wish kid.
00:46:40.580
I got that Aussie scrunch spray going in my hair.
00:46:43.040
The hair is coming along as these photos go forward.
00:46:56.080
Like, when all that came out, I was freaking out.
00:46:59.380
Was somebody just tell you, oh my God, do you see what just happened?
00:47:02.500
Yeah, like somebody texted me and was like, have you seen this documentary?
00:47:07.060
And I'm now, I've been down all the rabbit holes of it.
00:47:36.640
But then suddenly it'd be like a national thing.
00:48:08.640
But if that's what the child loves or something.
00:48:31.620
I don't know how you could put it all behind you.
00:48:44.900
Well, now you know, chat GPT is kind of getting better than Google because there's not advertising
00:49:00.840
And then he asked it to write a song at Father's Day.
00:49:04.000
We had Father's Day in New York with my husband's family.
00:49:06.140
We're sitting around, you know, with like forced family fun.
00:49:10.400
And so my brother's like, I'm going to ask chat to write a Miranda Lambert song.
00:49:17.200
And it didn't have a melody, but it's just the lyrics.
00:49:33.320
That's definitely the redneck version of Chad GBT.
00:49:42.960
And it's like, how do you get to New York City?
00:50:05.700
Whiskey and Waffle Heart sitting on the porch, sun sinking low, memories of you like a river
00:50:10.620
Your laugh still lingers in the evening air, but love's a wild ride.
00:50:14.540
Why does it talk about drinking when it's my song?
00:50:20.020
And then the pre-chorus, got a bottle in my hand and a heart full of scars.
00:50:36.700
You have to think in a few years, if it starts to really get like the ability to do some stuff,
00:50:42.060
but I don't know if it would ever take over like the human ability to feel and stuff and
00:50:45.700
actually create music that's based on real feelings.
00:50:51.260
I'm trying to stay hip and cool, but it's weird.
00:50:56.720
Like you have to go to a museum to see feelings.
00:50:58.500
Like somebody's smiling behind a piece of glass.
00:51:04.020
This is a fossilized tear that you're looking at.
00:51:10.100
I'm on the pill that makes it so you can't cry.
00:51:16.900
Oh, but maybe it'll be, we'll be long gone and doing something else by then, hopefully.
00:51:21.500
I hope I'm in the dang stars or definitely just, I don't know.
00:51:28.060
Well, you live in Nashville and Texas for a bit.
00:51:33.280
What was Nashville, how has Nashville changed over the years to you?
00:51:44.440
I think like the fact that country music is thriving right now and our town is a destination.
00:51:52.300
I love that because these honky tonks have been here for ages and kind of like it's the music of our lives, you know, of my life.
00:52:01.540
And so people are wanting to get a little glimpse of it.
00:52:05.580
I don't love that the roads aren't really made for all these people yet, but we'll get there.
00:52:12.260
I'm like, what is somebody, you see somebody just put a damn cake batter in a pothole out there, you know?
00:52:25.580
There's so many potholes, especially in January around that time.
00:52:28.540
I drove through something the other day and had damn devil's food all over my tires.
00:52:50.920
She has milk and eggs and butter, like real ingredients.
00:52:56.640
Dude, what I used to love was whenever our mom would make something, dude, and she would
00:53:14.160
Yeah, kitchen mixers is a little bisexual for me, okay?
00:53:18.340
My husband has the KitchenAid, and he's obsessed with it.
00:53:34.260
But I was like, your mom was like, don't eat too much of it because it's raw eggs.
00:53:37.460
And we'd be like, bro, and the crazy thing was, some of the- whatever was in it, I mean,
00:53:47.800
Like, yeah, it had like- I don't know what it was.
00:53:51.900
But the crazy part was, some of it, if you started licking the beater at the top, then
00:53:56.380
some of the stuff would flow down in your hand.
00:53:59.220
Then you're just licking your own hand with that- still holding on to that beater.
00:54:02.940
And then somebody would like accidentally put soapy dishwater in the bowl, and you're like,
00:54:09.340
Because, dude, if you could get even part of your head in that dang bowl, you know?
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00:54:58.300
What's a place that you miss in Nashville that's not here anymore?
00:55:06.960
Like, Old Losers was like, I love Losers still, but like Midtown, it was like just one little
00:55:13.180
shitty dive bar with like darts in the back and smoke and like a great jukebox and popcorn,
00:55:20.740
And now it's like three stories and the rooftop and all the things.
00:55:25.420
But I kind of miss like the little, like the, the divier, the better, you know?
00:55:33.160
And now they still have the back porch over there you can go kick it at sometimes.
00:55:50.480
He's usually out there waiting for an ambulance.
00:55:51.820
I put in a lot of late-nighters to get that sign.
00:55:56.160
You have to drink a certain amount of Tito's out of a shitty plastic cup to get your sign
00:56:03.620
It could have ended up being Miranda Lambert cul-de-sac, too, you know?
00:56:12.860
I remember when somebody put a damn cul-de-sac.
00:56:14.920
First time I ever saw one, I was like, what is this shit?
00:56:35.460
If you had a time warper, and it could have a hemi on it or whatever.
00:56:41.340
But if you had a time warper, what time back in your life would you go to, do you think?
00:56:51.000
I feel like I've done it, but I'm still learning.
00:56:55.380
Somebody asked me that the other day, like, what's your most fun era?
00:57:04.760
You know, I mean, you know that whole vibe where you learn a lot.
00:57:14.140
But like, now I'm like, what's we're doing right now?
00:57:29.640
Oh, the new song is Damn It Randy on your new album.
00:57:46.800
And it's about just a time where I was like, this is not good.
00:57:56.520
Or was it just somebody that didn't install y'all's cable well or something like, you know?
00:58:03.980
And I wrote it with John Randall, who's one of my besties.
00:58:13.320
I was flying a kite in the middle of a hurricane.
00:58:23.140
I know this is kind of a general question, but, like, you've gotten to have notoriety.
00:58:36.500
You know, it's like, what goals are there still for you?
00:58:41.200
Or do things evolve from goals into, like, just wanting to still do the job?
00:58:48.840
And it's stuff I go through in my own life, too, with comedy, you know?
00:58:54.980
You know, I am lucky enough to have reached a lot of the goals that I set when I started this journey.
00:59:09.300
You're like, well, I'll be singing in the drive-thru, damn it.
00:59:18.680
I'm not walking around saying I'm going to do this and this and this.
00:59:21.640
I'm just, like, absorbing what's around me and being open to new opportunities
00:59:26.520
and meeting new people and, like, also saying no to the right things.
00:59:35.520
Like, I think that's a big part of it because you can save your energy for the right things
00:59:40.120
if you just say no to the things that are not right for you.
00:59:42.480
Like, that's kind of where I'm headed and where I've been living in the past couple years
00:59:47.940
because I realize, like, if you put all your energy into the wrong people and the wrong things,
00:59:54.760
then you don't have any openness or any time or energy left for the right things,
01:00:00.180
So I think I'm just in this space right now where I'm like, what's next?
01:00:05.960
Like, I've never done that before until this year.
01:00:10.000
Well, I'm new to it, and I'm not great at talking.
01:00:17.720
I have an extroverted job with an introvert personality,
01:00:20.660
and so I'm trying to – I'm branching in that way.
01:00:25.380
You know, I always – I'm fine to say my truths in songs.
01:00:28.280
It's just harder to do just, you know, saying it out there.
01:00:39.160
Let's do something that's, you know, makes you grow and makes you learn.
01:00:46.180
Yeah, sometimes it's so – I feel like when you're involved in some part of the arts,
01:00:51.420
kind of, you know, people call them, and some people just call them music and comedy
01:00:55.820
But it's weird to also kind of evolve because it's like you age, right?
01:01:03.880
We age, and you're like, well, if I – some songs I can't even really sing anymore.
01:01:09.160
Some jokes I can't even really – I could tell them still,
01:01:12.300
but is it really going to be true to where I'm at, you know?
01:01:14.760
I find that that's interesting about art itself is you have to –
01:01:18.760
and then you're – but then you're like, but if I change,
01:01:20.940
will I still have the people who like this thing, you know?
01:01:24.080
Yeah, it's like how do you keep the common thread and keep reinventing?
01:01:29.820
And it's scary because what we do is very public and like what we signed up for
01:01:35.180
and what we started saying or the jokes we told at 20 or the songs we wrote at 20
01:01:39.780
are not the same – we're not in like the same life space
01:01:42.800
and we're not in the same lane anymore, you know?
01:01:44.920
So it's like figuring out how to do that gracefully
01:01:50.500
but still keep that common thread of like where you've been and where you're going
01:01:55.240
but kind of walk this line of stay inauthentic to the true you that started this whole journey.
01:02:03.780
Like I do not – I think that would be the literal hardest part of the arts of any art.
01:02:09.640
I just respect it because it's the most vulnerable.
01:02:13.200
Like standing up there in front of people and just telling jokes
01:02:16.000
and hoping they – like that it lands, you know?
01:02:23.900
I wish somebody would pull up with a drum sometimes.
01:02:26.680
Start playing a drum solo immediately if you're like, no, this one didn't happen.
01:02:35.880
You're up there by yourself like emotionally naked.
01:02:41.480
God, I can't even believe something when you think back.
01:02:43.540
And I don't mean it like – I'm not trying to fill my own ego.
01:02:47.060
But when you think back, like I don't know if I'd go do it now.
01:02:50.800
But yeah, you get up there that first time and you're just like,
01:02:53.160
this is going to – this is going to be good, you know?
01:02:58.780
You're just screaming that to yourself in a car, you know, in a Ford Taurus.
01:03:09.640
The fact that you said you don't know if you'd do it now.
01:03:17.040
I think about like – I knew three chords and I was like walking in these bars like,
01:03:23.240
And you know, it's that thing of like, how do I get experience if you don't let me play?
01:03:27.780
But then you say, I can't play because I don't have any experience.
01:03:30.320
Like just put me on set change then and I'll play my three songs that I just learned yesterday.
01:03:42.780
Do you ever show you remember that really just kind of burned you when you're just like,
01:03:50.100
Like you ever get – play at one of those Arab birthdays or something.
01:04:01.020
You know, where it's like – I did – I played a Sweet 16 one time.
01:04:05.560
And this thing was the most extravagant party I've ever seen in my life.
01:04:14.640
Michelle Branch was part of it, Leigh-Anne Rimes, and me.
01:04:28.940
And I was like – I was working at Bell's when I turned 16.
01:04:38.380
We was – the three of us combined, we was a nut.
01:04:41.080
I mean, that was one that sticks out in my mind.
01:04:46.760
We remember I had hand-me-downs from damn women.
01:05:04.820
So, like, it was in the Doc Martin, like, heyday.
01:05:11.640
That's where Mother Hubbard lived in one of those, I heard.
01:05:17.660
And, like, I found a pair of Doc Martins for $7.
01:05:22.860
And I went to school, and my mom's like, just tell everybody you got them at GW's.
01:05:30.840
So, I forever was like, these are my Doc Martins I got at GW's.
01:05:43.140
Oh, that's like putting, damn, each foot into a dang Sheraton.
01:05:51.560
After touring and going to hotels and stuff, I get one thing that bugs me now is if the
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And I don't mean it in a negative way, but it's like your back starts to fall apart,
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and you start to realize how many bones you have in your body as you get older.
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And you're like, this isn't holding anybody up.
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You figure out, like, what, like, but is your Continental, like, breakfast, like, just
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Like, it's those things you start to, like, really appreciate on the road.
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Like, do y'all have real eggs, or are they powdered eggs?
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Because you can't say hot breakfast if it's powdered eggs.
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Like, it's like MREs, but with a television that's on ESPN, you know?
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Yeah, God, I think, yes, I remember we used to go to the Continental Breakfast,
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and we would pretend, like, the people there were waiters or whatever.
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We weren't staying there at the Holiday Inn, and we would go up there and eat up there.
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And when they have happy hour, and it's in a box, but I'll take it.
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Do you have a favorite party, like, birthday party that you ever had so far?
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My friend Gwen, she sings with me in my band for 13 years, and she was like, where do you?
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You know, like, the big, the zero ones, you're like, I don't, I just would rather do nothing.
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Like, I shut down, and she was, we were getting our hair done, and she was like, it was typical,
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And I was like, she was like, I feel like you want to turn 40 at home in Texas.
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And so Billy Bob's gave me the bar on a Monday, because they're closed.
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And we had barbecue, and a bunch of my Texas friends, Randy Rogers and Wade Bowen and Adam Hood played.
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And it was like, it felt like, man, this is like why I loved, why I started this in the first place.
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Like, I just, I've been playing Billy Bob's for so long and going there to see shows.
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And so I think that was my favorite birthday so far.
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I have just rescue animals, and they're just all mixed little puppers.
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I started a foundation in 2009 called Mutt Nation Foundation with my mom.
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We raise awareness for adoption, for spay-neuter, for adopt-don't-shop, and like right now with
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the Hurricane Helene, we're doing a lot of work with Tractor Supply Rescue Relief and
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with Greater Good to, you know, people are first, obviously, but there's tons of shelters
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down there that were already overcrowded and got hit, and so just, there's a lot of moving
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So really what our foundation does is kind of meet the need, whatever the need is.
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You know, whether it's lifting up shelters, giving them grants for renovations, natural
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disasters, we kind of run the gamut, but our main focus is to encourage people to adopt.
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And once someone creates something like this, this foundation, right?
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And then how does, I'm just curious, how does a nonprofit even, well, I guess those are
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I mean, we haven't done a music one, but like for my Vegas residency, we gave a dollar a
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So a dollar a ticket, we've done that on tour, where a dollar a ticket goes to Mutt Nation.
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And then this is our first benefit show in a couple of years, so I'm excited.
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I got some friends coming out to sing, some surprises.
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And he's like my little shitty brother now, and that's what she calls him, because me
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and my brother, my real brother, are like, God, this sibling of ours is terrible.
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My dad plays guitar and writes songs, and it's specifically George Jones.
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When dad starts singing that, that thing howls, and it's like this screeching, awful noise.
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Like, you have to put the dog in the house, and it's still, you could hear it howling.
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And then that part where they go, ooh, ooh, ooh, that thing howls, and it's just like,
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and my parents think it's cute, which is even worse.
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Get you a little batch of hounds in those church gowns or whatever.
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What were the top two news stories that we had in there?
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And we don't have to talk about this either if you don't, if it's an awkward thing.
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I just heard this today, so I have not been down.
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I have nothing to say about it, but I'm, I want to read it.
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I mean, I'm going to read it like everybody else.
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Yeah, no, I've always heard the nice things about him.
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But he's always seemed kind of mysterious to me in a way.
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Like, he always seemed like he's done his own thing, I guess.
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Yep, when I was 10 years old, night two at Texas Stadium.
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And they, when he did standing outside the fire, and they lit the whole stage on fire.
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But I had braces, but only two because I had a gap.
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So I had to do the gap, close the gap on the front two teeth.
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But they should never do this to a child ever again.
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Like, we had to just, I had scrunchy hair, and Jesus, and braces, and all things.
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But I had the two braces when I saw that Garth Brooks show.
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Do you remember those jeans that were, like, real high-waisted with no back pockets?
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And it had a, the label was black and white lettering?
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My flame shirt, I was, like, my brush popper, like.
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And he came in and dropped out of that helicopter, and I was just, like, Garth.
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But I only had the two, and I had, like, pink rubber bands on them.
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And it was in that area where you would, like, curl one bang up and one down and tease it,
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And I was, like, I'm going to be a country singer.
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And I would get so excited when I could say, damned old rodeo.
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I don't know if you are, and we used to play that tape together.
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We used to, they used to have this thing called Crying, Loving, or Leaving on the radio.
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And you had to push the button at the exact right time.
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And for, but for two years, the number one song was Whitney Houston.
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But yeah, that was, and that's when all the music, some of the channels, even it was all
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of the, it was all one, that top 40 was anything was in there.
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And he's like, yeah, I'm over here in Davenport, Iowa.
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He'd be like, you Crying, Loving, or Leaving, Ernie?
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I want to see if we could like find that and listen to it.
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Like, I wonder if it exists somewhere on YouTube or something.
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I was going to go to the post office and mail myself somewhere else.
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I had no idea we were going to talk about that.
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You believe me, though, that we did not do that on purpose?
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I wonder if Kix Brooks does something like that.
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Because I know he has a weekly show or something.
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When you were a kid waiting to hear if somebody was crying, loving her, leaving, you didn't even know.
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Obviously, you have new tunes and that sort of thing.
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But yeah, what feels exciting to you about it or anything different?
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It's the first time I've recorded in Texas since I was 18.
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I wanted to go to Austin and just like really, it's a really honky-tonk record.
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And I think it's just because I have a new chapter, a new label, a new decade ahead of me of like whatever's going to happen.
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And I wanted to like go back to the root of where the whole passion started to begin with, which was like playing those honky-tonks in Texas.
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Like I think I had that sort of awakening when I had my birthday at Billy Bob's.
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And I was like, I'm turning 40 at one of my favorite places on earth in my home state at a honky-tonk listening to country music.
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And that's just where my heart lives at the end of the day is a honky-tonk listening to country music.
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So it felt right to like make my own music that way this time, you know?
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Yeah, it's hard for your heart to kind of get back home when your life gets busy like that in a way, you know?
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I always say I'm a TNT state girl because my heart's half in Tennessee, half in Texas.
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But both places that I live revolve around music.
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Yeah, it's like sometimes your life gets so busy and then you're like, it stops at a certain point.
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You're like, okay, I can get a look at where I'm at.
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It's good to like have enough time to stop and look at where you're at because I didn't for so long.
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I mean, when you're young and you start young following your dream and then you just sort of are a horse with blinders.
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And it's like, it's kind of a weird spot to be.
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But then once you embrace it, which is where I feel like I am right now, just embracing like, look what I've done so far.
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I mean, I definitely don't have the same energy for like long, you know, 150 days a year on the road or anything.
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But I'm still so inspired to like write songs and, you know, I love the music.
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You kind of, yeah, you do when you get busy and your career gets busy.
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It's like I spend most of my time, like I have some close friends I don't even get to talk to that much.
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And I know it's sad to say, people are like, well, you work instead of talk to them.
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But it's almost like you build up your dream, but then your dream takes a lot of responsibility.
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And nobody tells you what to do when you have done it.
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Like there's not like a manual you can like, there's not like a podcast you can like go back and look at and be like,
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so now what happens at this point in my career at this age with this, these accolades, like what happens now?
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And, you know, I'm like working with younger artists now and like newer artists.
01:20:37.520
Oh, that's your, so you guys have a branch there now.
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Oh, when he said, is this song called Torn Cigarette?
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It's like the, it's one of the greatest records that's come out in a decade.
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It's hillbilly and it's rage and it's sad and it's funny.
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And even as a Native American, some of the beats, some of the drums that he uses have
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I'm like, and I keep finding new songs on it that I like.
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He's just like wears his little vest in all his videos.
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He's just sitting there freaking slaying the guitar and he's just like his little puffy
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He looks like a lifeguard at Woodstock kind of in a way.
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You can tell like, I've just listened to some interviews and stuff with him and just listen
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I got to see him play one night at Whiskey Jam.
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You'd be in there in the donut box with 11 Laini Wilsons.
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Anyway, Miranda Lambert, thank you so much for all the beautiful music.
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Thank you for spending time with us today and just sharing a little bit of your life.
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And thanks for just like the inspiration and just being a space of like, hey, this is
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where you are and now let's see where we are and let's make the best stuff yet to come.
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Now, I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
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And I can feel it in my bones, but it's going to take.