E548 MrBeast
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 3 minutes
Words per Minute
227.47447
Summary
Jimmy Seibert is one of the biggest content creators in the world. He s an entrepreneur, a YouTube guru, and he has created more energy and excitement into the world of giving back than possibly anyone. He has a new show called Beast Games, where a record-breaking 1,000 people compete for the largest prize in entertainment history, $5 million.
Transcript
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Today's guest is one of the biggest content creators in the world.
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into the world of giving back than possibly anyone.
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compete for the largest prize in entertainment history, $5 million.
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Grateful to finally catch up with the one and only Mr. Beast.
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So before this, we were showing on episode one of a show I have coming out December 19th.
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We watched it, and then he started talking, and his team was like, hit the cameras.
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First of all, I thought that you are obviously, you're this Wizard of Oz,
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Willy Wonka, kind of William Wallace of finances type of energy going on.
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A lot, like, I've never seen a show where every,
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I mean, a couple minutes, there's like another twist of possibility, right?
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I kind of realized how many game shows are missing so many little elements in there
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where they could manipulate the situation more or create more of an environment
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for, like, competitors in the game to make choices that would affect them and others, you know?
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Yeah, and, like, basically having layers and stuff like that.
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But the big thing is no one's ever set up, like, that many cameras before
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So it's hard to do these kinds of things normally unscripted
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because, like, you know, we had unfathomable amounts of footage,
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like over 100 years of footage from that episode.
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Yeah, because, I mean, we had to have over 100 people work on it and post.
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So it's like to be able to do something at that scale,
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even just, like, to set up the cameras and edit and everything is,
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Yeah, you said there's a lot of world records that were broken
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Yeah, we have, like, so many plaques now that we have up on our wall.
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I'm basically making a wall out of Guinness plaques just from the show.
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Most contestants ever in a show, largest cash prize in a show,
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And a show, like, most money given away in the first episode of a show.
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Oh, that's the most people probably since 9-11, I would think.
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Yeah, I haven't seen that many people f*** at the same time.
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Wait, why was there a cut before you say what you're saying right now?
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Oh, there's just we needed something to just...
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Oh, that's the most people f*** at once that I'd seen since...
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Oh, since I was in the parking lot of a widespread panic concert, you know?
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Because as I'm watching, I'm like, man, there's so many things.
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Do you get so much joy out of having the manipulation of the situation?
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Because there's so many moments in the world where I'm watching people's feelings change.
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Because you've done so many of these types of competitions and opportunities for people, right?
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I mean, the thing is, I feel like I'm motivated by a lot of things.
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And these kinds of game shows, it's fun to create environments that have never been created for.
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And just like, well, let's just see kind of what people do.
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Like, a lot of that is just like mass behavioral psychology.
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Like, if you offer someone money to eliminate other people, how much money would it take, you know?
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But it's also, I just like making great content.
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And I like making things you can't find anywhere else because it's just fun to see how the world reacts to it.
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And so in this instance or in a lot of what we do, like we, one time we put, we just put a big circle on the ground.
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We put a hundred people in it and we just were like, whoever leaves last gets half a million dollars.
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And then it's just like, how long does it take?
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Like, those are the kinds of things I, like, personally am just curious on.
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Like, what the fuck's going to happen, you know?
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What's like one thing you've learned then about people's psychology?
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Like, have you learned, like, are there some general rules you've learned that people will, like, behave around money or that sort of thing?
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And that's, I, honestly, I feel like people are a lot nicer than you would think.
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Like, they're not as, they don't tend, and maybe it's because when we do it, they know the video is going to be seen by a hundred million people.
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So, they're thinking of their personal image, but a lot of times I have given people the opportunity to, like, screw other people over for some money, and usually they don't take it.
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Or they, like, push, like, it requires way more money than you would think, you know?
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Like, someone who'd theoretically be making $30,000 a year, and you'd offer them 10 grand, but it means this other person gets eliminated or gets punished in the challenge.
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And a lot of times, like, they'll say no, you know?
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And I'm like, whoa, that's not an easy decision to make.
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Yeah, you mentioned that while we were taping that you were surprised by some people's integrity.
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Especially during this show, like, I sometimes throw large, copious sums of money to eliminate other people, to, like, offer it to certain people, and they say no.
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Is there one age group or gender group or any demographic you can give me on who it seems like after doing a lot of challenges where you've gotten to see some integrity?
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Yeah, you would see that it's, like, pretty widespread across the board.
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I don't think a senior citizen, some seniors can't make it through that.
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You saw that one 70-year-old, she passed, which is.
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I hope she doesn't pass away before the show airs.
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No, I don't think people, some seniors, I don't know if I would let one of my grandparents watch this.
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What I really wanted is, like, in my YouTube videos, sometimes people say they don't have enough emotion or they lack the storytelling or whatever.
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When you go to, like, a stream platform like Amazon Prime Video or Netflix, you're, like, sitting down to watch something, usually for, like, hours.
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And you're, to watch, like, this longer story and show.
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But when you go to YouTube, more than likely, like, you know, you're going there for a quicker hit.
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You're not sitting down expecting to watch a 10-episode series.
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Like, you're just clicking on videos and watching.
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So content put up on YouTube is just different.
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And, you know, and so it's much easier to build characters and feel emotion over these 10 episodes, six hours of content than it is in a 20-minute video because you have, like, 10 minutes to build them up.
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But then you've got to wind the story down because the video is going to end in 10 minutes.
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So my big thing here was, like, I really wanted you to feel something.
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And I wanted to, like, flex those muscles and, like, actually build characters and, like, give emotion and things like that.
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You know, like, when we were watching that, even though I've already seen it, like, 100 times already, I could feel my heart pounding.
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I mean, or it might have been the Celsius I was drinking.
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Like, when people watch the show, I want them to have very intense feelings.
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And the interesting thing to me, too, is, like, a lot of times with game shows and it's the contestants that you start to get to know, right?
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Well, you will later on, but because there's 1,000 of them, first I got to, you know, lay down the hammer, ask, you know, 900 of them or whatever, and then we can build them up.
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And I definitely learned why no one ever does stuff with 1,000 because that's the most contestants ever.
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It's a lot to, like, just everything is, you know, 1,000 hotel rooms a night.
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If the hotel room is $200, that's $200,000 a night and just hotel rooms and you're feeding them.
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And even, like, every little thing is so expensive when you times it by 1,000.
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And then, like, to record 1,000 people, you need 1,000 cameras.
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And then to hook all the cameras up to the server, we need, like, 56 miles of cable to run it over there.
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And then you need, like, fucking 250 camera people to check in on them.
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And so it's like, I know why people don't do reality shows at this scale because it's so fucking expensive.
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Can you just believe it so it doesn't make it in?
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Can we believe it in some artistic way so it at least looks exciting?
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No, I'm just trying to give some different, trying to give some different reactions.
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And those are real towers that have actual hydraulic press doors that have to be safety proof with giant foam and crash pad at the bottom with the light system, right?
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And then we had to build custom software to connect it all where you press a button and the lights change.
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And then we had to rig, like I told you, 1,000 cameras in there to a giant control center.
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Like, just that first episode alone was, I mean, crazy, man.
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And do you have to take it all down at the end?
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Because the problem is, like, we needed six massive hangars.
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So, like, we basically, in Canada, there's, like, these six giant airport hangars.
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And that's where we built that city, which was also.
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So, I have in this field, at one point, I have, like, 800 people working over here just building a city in the middle of a field.
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And I've got, like, 600 construction people in these six hangars just building these other sets.
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I mean, at some points, we had, like, over 2,000 people on set just in this town in Canada.
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I mean, you would put out the employment opportunities in advance?
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And then, yeah, we hired a bunch of people locally and things like that.
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So, yeah, it created a lot of jobs locally there.
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Like, because you give away, you've given away a lot of money, right?
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And you give away a lot of joy while I'm watching.
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Like, there's something also, like, there's moments in there as I'm watching.
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I'm like, oh, what would I do in that instance, right?
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And then you see the reactions if somebody screws somebody over.
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And you see the reaction if somebody gets screwed over.
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And you kind of think, like, okay, well, what feeling would I want to have, you know?
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And then, like, in the moment, you're like, oh, yeah, I would definitely take the money.
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But then right now, looking back, when I start to even think about some of those moments, I'd be like,
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man, it must have been really tough to leave and have those people feel.
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It's just, it's interesting just as a viewer, all the little moments that I kind of navigate
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Do you feel like you're, like, making up for something in a past life?
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Or, like, is there something that, like, you didn't grow up with a lot of money, you know?
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And so was it, do you, like, when you think back on little moments, like,
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did you see somebody give some money once and it made you feel excited?
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Or, like, are you able to connect any of those dots as you get a little bit older
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You know, that's where I should come up with this, you know, heart-throbbing story of, like,
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I just want to, you know, help people because I couldn't when I was younger or whatever.
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But the honest truth is, like, I know how to make content go viral.
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And I just believe a world where I help people is just more fun than a world where I don't.
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I just, I've noticed where, you know, videos where we do help people or give away money,
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I tend to just be a little happier, enjoy it a little bit more.
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I mean, I could, I could, one time for fun, because, like, everyone has these, like, PR publicists
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I was like, huh, what advice would you have for me?
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And they're like, you need to come up with a better story on why you help people.
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And I was like, well, what I, because this is what I usually say.
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It's like, well, the truth is just as slightly more fun than what I don't.
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They're like, no, you need to come up with a better one.
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Like, you know, like you were saying, like, you know, say, like, you helped a homeless
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And I was just like, yeah, that feels kind of fake.
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Like recently I was given, given some money to some people that had been suffered from
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And, uh, but, and I'm not saying that to make myself look exciting or anything, but it
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And if they see that and then hear what I get, they're like, oh, this is guy, this guy's.
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Well, I mean, this is just our reality show, but yeah, in general, I don't know if you've
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watched too many of our videos, but we built a hundred wells in Africa.
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But what the, the wells stuff, that one was interesting or really eyeopening for me.
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Like we went like four hours into the middle of nowhere and you're like, you know, in places
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where these people don't have internet, like they're, I mean, really intense poverty.
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I would recommend if anyone ever has an opportunity to like just work on a project or do something
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It's like crazy to think that we're on the same planet, you know what I mean?
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And people who like, don't even have access to clean water and have to walk an hour every
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But then you look upstream and there's literally cows shitting in that same water that they're,
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you know, drinking out of because that's like, that's the world they live in.
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I think putting things in a perspective, right.
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Were you, was, did you have to like kind of achieve a certain amount of finances before
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No, I've always like my first brand deal was $10,000 and I just walked outside and gave
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Cause it's just like, you know, if I, um, do this, then hopefully this video makes $15,000
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And then hopefully that video makes $20,000 and I'll give away 20.
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And so I just had that idea of where I was like, what if I just give away the money and
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And then I've just kind of been doing that for like eight years.
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And now you're at $5 million, which is the largest amount that has ever been given away
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in a game show or in a reality show, in any show.
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I think squid game was the most of 4 million, 560,000.
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That's why the number is 5 million, but we also gave away like, you know, another 15 plus
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million on top of that just throughout the show.
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Cause you hear so many companies that companies that just like, it's about their bottom.
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And it's like, this is like the opposite of that.
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It's like, let's do something good and let's make a bunch of money, but then let's, let's
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It's like the opposite of like all the other treacherous type of, um, uh, capitalism that
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I mean, I, it's interesting because now that I've done like a streaming show or whatever,
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I'm, uh, it's like a lot of these shows, their cash prize is like $250,000, $500,000.
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And it's like, I wonder why they don't give away more.
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Like you'll watch this whole, you know, 10 episode show just to see who wins 250 K.
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And it's like the first three minutes of our show, we gave away a million dollars.
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I'm curious to see how people react to it because I just, but anyways, you're going to make other
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Dude, we had a dude, he would give you 10 bucks to look at his butt.
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When I was, uh, you know, when I was younger than I am now, for sure, he was a child.
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I don't want to say a child, but you just pretend I was a child.
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Cause I was, and this guy would give you 10 bucks to look at his butt.
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Not up close, far away, you know, but it was like, so yeah, that guy could have given
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I have no idea, dude, but I'm just saying, it's like everybody has a game show and you're
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like, yeah, people, these, these prizes are cheap.
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You know, that's what it was kind of what I was getting at.
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So you were on a game show and a guy gave you $10 to look at his butt.
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And you had to kind of go like that at him and you got the money, you know?
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So, but it wasn't, it wasn't close up and it wasn't even super invasive.
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It was like, you know, I get, it's a, how old were you at the time?
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Uh, I was old enough to be like, Hey, this guy's kind of a crazy guy, you know, but he's
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So probably 13, 12, 11, probably, you know, but anyway, you sure you don't want to file
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a police report, you sure you don't want to take care of that?
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He's not currently still offering 12 year olds, $10 to look at his butt.
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And maybe that's the type of game we can go to do next is trapping guys like that, you
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Anyway, I shouldn't have said anything like that.
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I know you have the largest YouTube channel, um, that, that exists the most that they can
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Um, you have more subscribers than I think people in America.
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Yeah, I guess it's, uh, I mean, I, uh, it's crazy, man.
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Cause eight years ago, I'm raising my hand desk, use the bathroom.
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And then, yeah, I guess now we have the same subscribers as America.
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Cause you're, you're talking about like the, our large subscriber count is it's like when,
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when I had like, uh, 10 million subscribers, I was like,
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Like this is, you know, like I would go into Walmart and I don't know, maybe one person
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would ask for a photo and it was like, this is fucking cool.
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But you don't, there's just like such a big difference where, and this is gonna sound
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obvious, but where I'm at now, then when I had like 10 million subscribers or where I
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was like four years ago and it's, it keeps getting crazier every year and every year,
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like, like people will follow my car to like, you know, if I'm out and they see me, they'll
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like try to stalk me so they can see where I live.
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Like, you know, that's like, that kind of stuff didn't happen four years ago or almost
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anything I do, uh, ends up on the internet, right?
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Like, um, one time I was like at a drive, every time I go to a drive-thru, it's like
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flipping a coin on whether or not 10, like someone's gonna go Mr. Beast.
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And then all the people in the background and run to the window and it's going to be this
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That's, you know, kind of intense or if it's just like a really, really old person and
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I'm like always super happy when like, I pull up to a drive-thru and it sounds like
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they're 50 cause I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm good.
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But if they, if they sound like they're in their twenties or thirties, it's, it's brutal.
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Cause then it's like one time someone did that.
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I was like, Hey, I don't want people to know what I'm driving.
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Like we can chat, but let just please no photos.
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Cause then if it goes viral, I'm gonna have to sell this car.
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And then she goes to get the food and she comes back and there's just, I see just 10
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I won't even say the restaurant, but behind her coming up or their phones recording.
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And I had to drive off before they handed me my food because I was like, if I don't,
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And it's like, no, you forgot to tell the part.
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Where I was like, Hey, please don't dox my car, you know, just come to me leaves that
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And so there's a lot of that, like, or another time I was at a restaurant.
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I don't even know who I was with, but, uh, someone paid for my food.
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And, um, I was like the, I went, I asked for the bill.
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They're like, told me to tell you they like your videos.
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And they're like, Oh, well, we don't have a bill.
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And then the next day I see on the internet, Mr.
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Beast stiffed me and didn't leave a tip or whatever.
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So, and I was just, it's so, I have so many instances like that where like, no one gives
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a fuck when you're smaller about all these little things.
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But like, as I've gotten bigger, yeah, it's just like every interaction it's, uh, it's
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like a 10% chance this thing's going to end up on the internet and, or they're going
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Like people, like I said, follow me or, um, yeah, it's, it's interesting.
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And you get, well, you get to a point also a popularity where you've also gone.
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If I wear a beanie, I've noticed, like I've, I've tried all sorts of outfits when I fly
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to see which ones get, if I put my bangs in a beanie and put that on, cause I've never
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worn anything like that in my videos, the amount of photos I take go down like crazy.
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So it's like, and then if I combo the beanie with like a pair of glasses, cause I also have
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never worn glasses in my videos, it takes it down.
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So I've like studied it because like I used to just rock a hood, but that's kind of like
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It's like, especially in places where it's not cold.
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People are like, it's got like a bank robber, but he's at United Airlines.
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It actually makes them like double look and then they're like, oh shit.
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Um, but the, the beanie and glasses strat, that's, that's the key.
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No, I think there's different ways to do different little disguises.
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I do think it's interesting what you're saying though, like about, like, I would notice, um,
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this is just for me, but I would notice like someone would pay for my food sometime at a
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restaurant, but then I would read like, oh, he didn't thank us for it.
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But it's like, at some point it's like, maybe I'm doing with, I'd rather just pay for the
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I didn't know that there was this other exchange to it.
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I'm happy for the extra food, but if I'm in a hurry or something and now I'm in a different
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spot and now I'm in a conversation where somebody also then wants to ask you about a business
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And it's like, yeah, you know, there's no rule book for these kinds of things.
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Like, what do I do when random people pay for my food?
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Oh, I guess this is the random people paid for my food etiquette.
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I have to stand there and demand a bill from the waitress five times until they give it
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I then have to walk around the restaurant and find who paid for it and thank them.
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It's like, these are the, the things that you just kind of have to learn as you get
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Well, it's just interesting, you know, and people will be like, oh,
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famous people complaining, you know, but it's like, but if somebody, if popularity is a
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blessing and a curse, and sometimes it's a side effect of what you even wanted to do.
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How did you become, just so our listeners know, how did you become Mr. Beast, you know?
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Were you, was you at a point where you were just a beast?
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Yeah, so when I was probably 13 or 11, you know, Xbox Live, I just was randomizing the name.
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And so that was just like my Xbox Gamer Tag when I was playing Call of Duty.
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So they gave you, did they ever come after you and try to claim any title to it?
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Well, no, because it's just like a random name generator and they don't own it.
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But then, so then when I started a YouTube channel, I just called it Mr. Beast 6000.
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And then everyone was just like, why is this 6000?
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But in terms of how I got where I am now, I started making videos when I was 11.
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And then I started to get like, holy fuck, is anyone ever going to watch these?
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I'm like having depressive mental breakdowns because I'm poor and everything I have.
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But I mean, like at the time, you know, obviously everyone thinks the videos they make are great.
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And I thought I was making like insanely great videos, but they're just trash.
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I just and like the problem is I didn't have anyone to teach me how to edit.
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And I'm like, fuck, I just like I only my whole life was just like, I just want to do YouTube.
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I need to make enough money by the time I graduate high school.
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So I can do this or I'm fucked because like I didn't have good grades or anything.
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And, you know, we didn't have much money because my parents were over leveraged in 2008.
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They're in the army, bought some properties 2008.
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And then the recession or financial crisis hit, went bankrupt, lost everything.
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So like my mom was also like, fuck, my son's just going to be like, fuck, can we get back in there?
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And and so I finally 18 about to graduate high school.
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Yeah, I remember like, yeah, it's just like my mom's like, all right, it's time to accept reality.
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But I was like, OK, let me just pick the easiest, lamest fucking degree.
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I think it was like some communications degree.
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But then two weeks into it, I just was like, fuck this shit.
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And so every day, because I didn't have enough money to move out, I just go to college.
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But then I would just work on videos in my car.
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And I was just like, OK, in six months, my mom's going to find out that I have straight zeros.
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I got to get it where people are watching my videos enough where I can like live off of it over the next six months.
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And then I just started doing a bunch of stupid stuff like around this time when I counted to 100,000.
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Watching somebody semi-unconscious count their way through like the 80,000 is unbelievable.
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There was one part, I think, at 93,000 where I was like 92,999, 91,000.
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So I like, yeah, because I was so just out of it at that point.
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Yeah, there are other moments in that where you're like, yeah, somebody help this guy or something, you know.
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But anyways, around that point, I had a month where I made 20 grand.
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And then I was like, mom, I have straight zeros.
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So that and then, yeah, then we just kept reinvesting it all.
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Is that like a I know you kind of mentioned a minute ago.
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No, for me, it always came natural because like I have.
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Well, now it's a little bit crazier because we're traveling everything.
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But back then I lived in a place that was $720 a month and I split it with someone.
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And I had like a 2005 Dodge Durango, which was that expensive.
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So it was like, OK, $1,000 to cover my expenses.
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So if you just live like below your means, then like it allows you just to go crazy and
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And I just was like a fucking machine back then that lived to make the best videos possible.
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And so every dollar was just a way to just make a better video.
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There's something about it that you want to make the best video.
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Yeah, well, it's I've obviously studied the algorithm, studied the tens of thousands of
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And what's interesting is the data always just shows that the better a video is, the
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It's like if people watch it and enjoy it, YouTube gives it more views.
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So it's like, yeah, it's the better that's that's what took us from 100,000 views a video
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to a million to 10 million views a video to 20 to 30 to 40 to 50 to 100.
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It's just, you know, people notice when you put in the effort and go above and beyond.
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But watching some of your stuff is just like, man, this is like fantastical.
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You went out into these like, uh, like this cave and seven days in the underground cave.
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Is that a, was it a real cave or not a real cave?
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Uh, so we did seven days in a cave and seven days in underground city.
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Cause it's like, it's mixes like past and present.
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It's like, I can't, it's like, are we the Mayans or the aliens here?
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There's this mix of like, you know, where, is this a real city?
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Is it not, it, it looks brand new, but then it's also has these.
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Well, and the Romans used to mine salt out of there.
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I think it was like, uh, something crazy, like 2 billion, uh, pounds of salt have been
00:35:22.740
So it's been used for over a thousand years and then they built a little underground city
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there and there's a Ferris wheel and everything.
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It's so mind blowing that like how there's a real Ferris wheel there.
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That's one that it's just like, I can't tell sometimes when it's new or older.
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It felt like, dang, this is dang fantasy, you know?
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I mean, I have a girlfriend, but, uh, you know, I just call her Tia.
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So she, you just call her by her natural name or whatever, God given name.
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Um, do you remember your first girlfriend ever or no?
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Uh, yeah, but you know, I'm, I love my current girlfriend.
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That's what I was just, or yeah, I was just thinking like, were you good at having girl?
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Like, was there ever a girl that you even had a crush on in your neighborhood or anything
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When I, um, I, when I was growing up, I was so, I mean, I still am, but I was incredibly
00:36:25.400
Like I have scarves on my forehead from, I was saw, I was an acneed up freak that just
00:36:32.600
Like if they were like, hi, I'd probably just be like, uh, what are you?
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I mean, but it kind of worked to my advantage a little bit because that's why I just grinded
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so much from 11 to 18, which most people probably would have been trying to talk to
00:36:48.160
girls or, you know, actually that'll kill all your time.
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Whereas I was just like fucking playing baseball and grinding on YouTube every second.
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I mean, it's a pretty intense thing, but I took Accutane and it just got rid of all
00:37:13.160
And actually I was one, a Call of Duty YouTuber I watched when I was younger.
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He just said that he started taking Accutane and all his acne went away.
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So I asked my dermatologist and I took it and then all my acne went away as well.
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And I was like, holy shit, where was, but I didn't take it till I was like 19 or 20.
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And I was like, my God, why didn't someone tell me about this?
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When I was 15 or 16, and I probably, it's probably for the better because it's pretty
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intense, but it like dries your skin out like crazy.
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And it gets to the point where your skin will get like, it shrinks your pores too.
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So like the blackheads on your nose will literally come out on their own.
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And like, you'll like wake up one day and you'll just have like all this stuff.
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Like if you squeeze blackheads, they'll just be sitting on top of your nose.
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Like when people with that worm rod on the ground, you ever seen that when they electrocute
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So anyways, I'm saying this because if there's any of you out there in the same spot as me,
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I hope to be like that call dude, a YouTuber was to me when I was younger to you.
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Some dude on call it, he's like, Hey, get some Accutane.
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He would just do it like a story time and talk about how he fixes acne.
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Like, and I was afraid to smile because sometimes you would have that hard patch and it would just
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be like, it would be like a gang of acne, like MS Thertacne or whatever.
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And you would smile and it would fucking just squirt on somebody.
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It was almost like you were, um, you were afraid to make certain faces because a couple
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of them would go off, you know, it was like, you know, like, I don't know if mine was that
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I had, if you'd get them like in here in the corners of my nose, it was so scary.
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So if I get a pimp on it, I'd have to stay home until it went away or whatever.
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You've been at home, you're just growing up or whatever.
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And then God's like, Oh yeah, you little bastard.
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It's like, you see these people who don't wash their face and they just have perfect flawless
00:39:14.900
And then you're over here doing everything you can.
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And you got, you know, a hundred blackheads on your nose and probably 40 pimples on your face.
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And it's just like, why, why, why am I being punished?
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It was like this, this green stuff came out at one point.
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It had a, like a blotter, almost like a, um, for playing bingo and you'd put it all over
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It's kind of green and you couldn't tell right when you put it on.
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But if you were at school and you had a white shirt or something, your whole shirt of
00:39:43.060
your neck would start just getting green throughout the day.
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Me growing up, we had proactive or whatever the fuck that was.
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I don't, I don't remember this green shit you're talking about.
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We had prayer and some other shit that they had.
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Oh, I remember in our apartment complex, some dad, I remember this is the first girl
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And she would make her play like on the back porch, she would practice and I would go around
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and listen and, um, she would play, uh, what's that Ice Cube song?
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Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
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No bark, no, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
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And I would just go down there and I just fell in love listening to her play that.
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There was some violence between our families a little bit.
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My brother had some issues, I think, with her brother, but there, uh, but that was like
00:40:58.720
Uh, somebody like got upset at somebody and somebody threw like, um, like a stomp or
00:41:05.620
It got, they really got hot sometimes, dude, but I, but between me and her, she didn't know
00:41:11.460
I don't think she ever knew that, but I would listen to her play that and the dad would
00:41:27.180
I went to India when I was a student, we went to Madras and we worked at like a children's
00:41:32.220
It was like, um, it was just a week, but it was magnificent, man.
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Some of the most beautiful, energetic humans in the world, you know, like a lot of happiness
00:41:46.840
Um, well we, yeah, it was, it was pretty, pretty intense.
00:41:52.620
We, we, like when I, I mean, it's, it got off to like, I literally, as I'm walking out
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of the airport, there was just a bunch of people there waiting, you know?
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Um, so I took some photos, said hi to people, whatever, got in my car.
00:42:04.280
Um, and then that video that someone filmed got posted on like this, uh, big, like, I
00:42:11.520
guess, uh, celebrities are like a really big thing, like Bollywood stars in India.
00:42:15.980
And so like they posted on this Instagram account and it got like 20 million views in
00:42:20.780
So basically, um, like everyone knew I was in India after that, which we also said we
00:42:26.220
were coming cause we were going to like, you know, uh, talk on a stage cause I was launching
00:42:30.860
But it got, uh, pretty intense cause people were trying to find which hotel I was in and
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And so like, I'm like, as we're pulling in, like with my seat really reclined, cause I didn't
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And somehow they figured out which one we're staying at.
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And then there's people waiting out there and there's, it, it got pretty crazy.
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And then we, we just like launched our chocolate bar at a mall.
00:42:55.520
The amount of people that showed up, um, we were, we were just talking on stage and whatever,
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but the problem is so many people are showing up there that they like, like people were,
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we're going on in places in the mall where they weren't supposed to getting in locked
00:43:07.280
doors and the line and crowd was getting so big.
00:43:09.620
They made us end it early and leave, which was annoying because like, I felt bad cause
00:43:13.820
so many people had showed up and I just wanted to at least like wave and say hi to a lot of
00:43:17.980
Um, and then, yeah, we've just, uh, I met a lot of the biggest Indian creators over
00:43:26.360
We just, we, what was also interesting is, um, we did this, uh, meet and greet with a
00:43:32.580
bunch of, uh, Bollywood actors, like their kids and just said hi to them.
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And, um, I've, I've just never watched any Bollywood films.
00:43:39.760
So I was just, you know, hanging out saying hi to some of these people.
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And like, I took a photo with this kid and one parent.
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And, uh, then one of the guys beside me who just works there was like, Hey, do you know
00:43:51.140
And he showed me like an Instagram account and he had like 60 million followers.
00:43:53.580
I was like, no, he's like, Oh, that was the guy I just met.
00:43:57.280
And then I took a photo and I said hi to another kid with, with, uh, his mom.
00:44:01.440
And he's like, the guy was like, she is, she's like in these movies and like this.
00:44:06.480
And I was like, and I, I didn't know who any of these people were.
00:44:08.820
And so I was like, okay, now I need you to tell me who they are before they
00:44:15.480
Um, and he's just like, okay, here's, here's this person's Instagram account.
00:44:19.380
Like there, apparently there's like twice as many people use, uh, Instagram in India
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So I didn't know any of this, but like, it's a really good, you forget about that.
00:44:33.560
And so it's like really, really big over there.
00:44:35.800
Cause that was like, it was, I was, it was crazy.
00:44:37.980
There's so many people that I met that just had crazy high follower accounts.
00:44:41.520
And it's like, I, you don't see that over here in America.
00:44:44.080
And then I looked into the data cause I'm a data guy.
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And I was like, oh my gosh, like a fuck load of people use it over there.
00:44:49.360
And the usage skyrocketed after they banned tick tock.
00:44:52.060
And same thing with YouTube, actually like India, more people watch YouTube in India
00:44:56.500
Um, because again, like when America we're competing, it's tick tock over there.
00:45:01.560
And then the fact that there's over a billion people.
00:45:03.140
So it's like, Oh, so YouTube is bigger over there too.
00:45:06.760
So it's like a huge market, but, um, no, I had a great time.
00:45:09.760
Uh, and it was just, it was pretty intense though.
00:45:12.680
Like I posted an Instagram story showing us driving down the road and they're just everywhere
00:45:17.300
There's just dozens of kids that would just run along the side of the road and follow
00:45:32.660
It's a lot of good energy over there and it's safe energy too.
00:45:35.260
So the excitement, I feel like in a place like Indy, you don't feel like it's going to
00:45:40.500
Not like, uh, that I thought people would stab me, but they're, how do I say it in a
00:45:44.480
way where it doesn't sound like a being a diva?
00:45:45.920
They were a little less, uh, concerned for personal space over there.
00:45:51.260
There are, there are like more, they'll run up to you and get like really close.
00:45:58.820
Like in America, you know, people dab you up like a group of five or six people and they'll
00:46:03.220
stay a foot or two away, you know, but over there, like they'll just run up and hug
00:46:06.840
me and like get really, really close and it gets a little intense sometimes.
00:46:09.800
Like I noticed like some of them did not give a fuck about my personal space, especially
00:46:15.660
Oh, they'll hide in your mouth if you leave it open.
00:46:19.920
They just, yeah, I remember being, they would, people were sleeping on the side of the road
00:46:24.060
I remember in India when I was there, you would just be driving at night and people just,
00:46:27.000
you know, somebody was just walking and I guess they decided to get some rest or whatever.
00:46:30.380
Um, but yeah, you don't even get your own pillow in India.
00:46:33.620
Like you lay down and then there's other, you know, people have a little quad.
00:46:36.740
It's just, there's a lot of people there, you know, there's a lot of folks.
00:46:41.680
And thank you guys sent me some, you know, I'll go the whole day.
00:46:44.480
I don't need any sugar middle of the night, crack open to a box of feastables that some
00:46:53.060
And the peanut butter one is probably my favorite one.
00:46:55.640
But then it's like, I just have so much, you know, I freak out in the middle of the
00:46:59.000
night and, uh, cause I'm just a damn sugar pervert.
00:47:02.620
And then now I just can't go back to bed, you know, but thank you.
00:47:06.540
And, um, but what I want to say is, would you ever do like a Willy Wonka type of thing?
00:47:10.940
Cause I feel like this, I mean, you already are kind of there, you know?
00:47:14.340
So, you know, we put 10 golden tickets in it one time.
00:47:23.000
We should, it's almost like we should put 10 golden tickets in random bars.
00:47:26.260
I should build a chocolate factory, fly them down and have them compete for it.
00:47:35.040
Most of your fans probably have no idea I did it.
00:47:39.220
I built a actual chocolate river and you know, it's funny this, I don't even know if I've
00:47:44.740
ever told this story, but we, I like it's the day before we're going to film, you know,
00:47:49.160
the 10 golden ticket winners are in town and I go to the chocolate factory to,
00:47:52.980
just, you know, check out things and the chocolate river is just not there.
00:47:58.360
Like we had, like literally had like a multiple feet deep spread across this like a warehouse,
00:48:04.160
like chocolate river, but it's like there, but then I come back the next day and it's
00:48:13.440
I mean, I guess there was like a hole in the, the, uh, lining on the bottom of the river
00:48:17.720
and we built it and it just all sank through it.
00:48:20.220
We, I don't know, but see that chocolate river right there.
00:48:26.640
Uh, but the guy that took it, uh, no, that's Nolan, one of our friends.
00:48:30.220
And then that's a, he, every time someone got eliminated, they got in the boat.
00:48:33.180
We, uh, paddled them down the chocolate river out the factory.
00:48:35.500
But, uh, yeah, so it's like the, the day before and I just walk in and there's like a waterfall
00:48:42.180
And I'm like, where the fuck did my chocolate river go last night?
00:48:46.680
And so we had to like blitz to refill it and redo the entire thing.
00:48:52.240
Just search up Mr. Beast chocolate factory and you can see like, he can see what it actually
00:49:02.660
I can tell you about the fucking crazy shit we've done.
00:49:05.520
Like who else has built a fucking chocolate factory?
00:49:19.420
I mean, it was fucking difficult to keep the bugs out of there.
00:49:27.100
And so we gave the, the winner the option of, you know, keep the factory or just have $500,000.
00:49:31.140
And I was like, yo, like this shot of fact or chocolate river is probably going to disappear.
00:49:36.700
Uh, these candies are all going to go bad in the next few days.
00:49:45.100
I mean, I'm not, you know, I will, but I just, it's going to cost you like six figures.
00:49:57.540
So the, the last challenge they did is they had to cook a dessert and then whoever, uh,
00:50:02.200
Gordon Ramsey said did the best one, the chocolate factory.
00:50:05.660
And he looks a little bit like Charlie from the original chocolate factory.
00:50:08.500
Pull up a Charlie from the original chocolate factory photo there.
00:50:14.240
And I'm going to be so accurate here, which blew my own mind actually.
00:50:18.160
Yeah, actually, actually Carl, the guy to the right of Gordon kind of looks like him.
00:50:23.620
The picture on one is up one, but no, that scroll.
00:50:27.980
Uh, no, right there to the left, left on that side, right there.
00:50:49.780
That's one vote for Bobby Kennedy right there, dude.
00:51:16.200
Yeah, and what's also interesting is while we were filming that video, I was doing a different video where I didn't eat any food for two weeks.
00:51:23.940
I just did three days the other day of only water.
00:51:35.360
Yeah, I lost, what was it, like 20-something pounds?
00:51:39.840
You know, it was for a video just to see what happens.
00:51:42.500
And after, like, day five or six, like, you're pretty fucking drained.
00:51:50.420
If you read online about extended fast, people will be like, oh, you'll lose minimal muscle mass and it's mostly fat, which seemed like a lot of Reddit threads and things when you first Google it.
00:52:00.220
So I did a DEXA scan before I did my extended fast, you know, where they measure the fat and muscle in your body and do one after.
00:52:06.020
And I was like, I lost, like, six pounds of muscle.
00:52:09.460
It was, like, pretty depressing how much muscle I lost.
00:52:15.100
But that's not what the internet said would happen, which I was like, someone needs to, like, correct this.
00:52:23.100
It was, like, 13 pounds of fat, seven pounds of lean mass.
00:52:26.480
It's depressing because then you're so, you start to, and you don't want to explain to people, hey, I'm fat.
00:52:30.500
Because people think something's going on with you.
00:52:31.900
Yeah, but even after you start eating, like, the muscle didn't just come back.
00:52:40.620
And I still was filming and working throughout it.
00:52:42.640
So, like, on day 10 and 11 and 12, like, it was really fucking with me.
00:52:46.420
Like, standing up was just, like, brutal, you know, and, like, walking around or anything like that because you have no energy.
00:52:56.820
And what were you, did you notice, like, but your clarity got pretty sharp as a whip.
00:53:01.740
See, people say that, but no, for me, it never, that never hit.
00:53:04.400
I never got that, like, a superhuman clarity because that's what I was hoping for.
00:53:08.780
No, I just, like, I was just fucking tired, man, all the time.
00:53:15.900
I thought that guy was naked at first on the right.
00:53:18.260
Former All-Pro NFL tackle Russell Okung is also over 150 pounds since retiring, including losing 100 pounds in 40 days by fasting every day.
00:53:29.780
We just started a video where we, or we're about to start it after, when I go back home, we built a gym, like, just a weightlifting gym.
00:53:40.400
And then we're going to give a guy, either, I don't know which one, if he loses 100 pounds before he leaves that red circle.
00:53:48.980
And so, and he has a trainer in there and he has a chef at everything he'll need.
00:53:55.540
So, like, that video might take, like, a year, you know.
00:54:00.800
And it's just, like, lose 100 pounds or leave, you know.
00:54:04.540
And if you lose 100 pounds before you leave, you win the money.
00:54:08.160
They should do that around, like, an IndyCar race, you know.
00:54:12.540
Just put a big, huge circle around, like, a Talladega or whatever.
00:54:23.740
Another video we're about to start, too, is I bought a jet.
00:54:26.620
And then we're grabbing two people who just, like, graduated from pilot school or whatever, just got their license.
00:54:32.040
And we're going, if you guys live in this jet for the next 100 days, don't step foot out of it once.
00:54:36.500
For the next 100 days, you get to keep the jet.
00:54:39.720
But they can fly it around or do whatever, just as long as they don't leave.
00:54:43.600
So, like, I'm hoping they'll, like, fly to New York and just Uber eat some pizza to the door of the jet.
00:54:49.640
And it's just, like, yeah, that'll be a fun one.
00:55:03.340
And then you had to make, you got to make one more video.
00:55:10.640
Because you're already, I mean, you've got the $5 million.
00:55:15.680
But on YouTube, because I don't have that, I don't have streaming money on YouTube.
00:55:21.860
We've, there's not, because there's so many things I want to do.
00:55:30.860
It's just like actually pulling them off, you know, because a lot of these are multi-million
00:55:33.740
dollar projects that take months upon months to set up, months to film, months to edit,
00:55:39.640
Like one of the ones we did recently that I thought was really cool, but like, this is
00:55:43.700
an example of how much time it takes is we built a bunker underground.
00:55:54.120
We bought a bunker, put it in, cover it up and then pull up the, like the outside of
00:55:59.580
And then we had to, yeah, that top one right there.
00:56:04.840
And then those two people, if they lived in there for a hundred days, they want half
00:56:10.560
And then like, but you have to set deck the bunker and then, um, so that's like multiple
00:56:16.260
And then you put them in there and then that's still three months and 10 days of filming.
00:56:20.360
And then, you know, you have to have like camera crew there going around the clock and
00:56:24.100
you have to have a medic there just for safety and all these other things.
00:56:28.220
And then now you come out the other end, you have a hundred days worth of footage, which takes,
00:56:31.320
you know, editing team forever to come through and watch and edit and then build stories.
00:56:34.840
So like, that's like a eight month long project, you know what I mean?
00:56:42.520
And, and that's the thing is like the fact that I can do all this for a YouTube video,
00:56:48.360
it was like unfathomable when I was growing up.
00:56:51.160
Like, it's crazy to see like the kind of, um, content that can be supported by YouTube.
00:56:55.840
You know, like I think on that video, we probably spent like four and a half million dollars,
00:57:00.680
I just found that between the bunker and the price pool and everything.
00:57:03.180
And how many, uh, shows can you have, like, can you have a couple of things going like
00:57:07.660
Yeah, we have to, I try to upload two videos a month.
00:57:10.300
So we have to be working on six to eight videos at a time because these videos take months
00:57:15.800
So if we're only working on one at a time, then I'd only upload once every like three
00:57:20.840
And do you come up with most of the ideas yourself or do you have kind of a team when you guys
00:57:24.940
So that's where it's interesting because, uh, the ideas are incredibly important because
00:57:29.900
like you, I do a lot of seven day challenges, right?
00:57:34.320
I spent seven days in solitary confinement, seven days of cave, underground city, seven
00:57:38.940
And then what's interesting is like, you could do seven days buried alive.
00:57:42.280
So me laying in a coffin for seven days, or you could do theoretically, right?
00:57:46.300
I could lay in a bathtub for seven days, right?
00:57:51.160
Both are me just laying there, but the one in the bathtub isn't going to get any views.
00:57:55.320
The one of me laying in a tomb underground, everyone will care.
00:57:58.540
Cause it's like fucking what the fuck this dude buried himself alive.
00:58:01.120
So it like shows like the theoretically it's kind of the same thing, but this idea is just
00:58:07.620
in a different setting environment and we'll probably get 10,000 times more views.
00:58:10.820
And so it shows like the importance of the idea, if that makes sense.
00:58:13.860
Like it's not, uh, views or successes and just isn't directly correlated with the effort
00:58:19.900
A lot of it has to do with what is the overarching concept.
00:58:22.760
And so once you kind of realize that you just like, you're really obsessed with how do
00:58:27.180
I come up with crazy, cool, original viral ideas?
00:58:30.120
And so that's what I spent most of my teenage years obsessing over.
00:58:33.660
And I used to do every single day, I would brainstorm video ideas and I'd write them, write
00:58:38.480
And that's how I built like, I have this like Google sheet with like 10,000 ideas on it.
00:58:43.060
I thought of trying to sell that to YouTubers at one point because there's so many there
00:58:46.980
But then after a while, now that things have gotten so big and I have to like film 25,
00:58:51.880
28 days a month and I have all this stuff going on, I can't do an hour a day.
00:58:56.700
And then, you know, like once a week they'll just go, Hey, here's 200 really cool, unique
00:59:02.300
And, you know, and they'll usually inspire something in my head because a big thing too, is like,
00:59:05.960
this is what I've probably said this on podcasts before, but like if there was a, like a fruit
00:59:11.620
in Africa that if you ate, you grew two feet taller and you didn't know that existed until
00:59:17.560
You wouldn't have been able to brainstorm ideas around eating that fruit.
00:59:22.300
And so it's like very important to always be intaking new information and learning things
00:59:28.380
because that's how you, you know, come up with more original creative stuff.
00:59:32.540
Like I, I noticed when I first started hiring people to like, you know, start brainstorming
00:59:36.620
stuff for me that like after two months of someone doing this, you would just basically
00:59:41.540
start getting the same ideas on autopilot, right?
00:59:43.440
Like if a guy really likes basketball, you'll start to notice like, Oh, 10% of his ideas
00:59:47.800
have to do a basketball, but it's not because basketball is like the greatest ideas and most
00:59:53.760
And so, you know, and you'll notice if someone watches baseball though, Oh, now they conveniently
00:59:59.080
And, and so what you want is you just want to get someone who you just almost like want
01:00:04.360
to make them constantly learn and absorb new information.
01:00:07.160
Listen to 10 different podcasts, one episode of each, not 10 of one.
01:00:13.300
And you, you almost have to like to train people to help you come up with good ideas.
01:00:16.720
You have to just train them to watch a bunch of different content and absorb information
01:00:23.180
So first of all, you'd find somebody who you like, okay, I like this, that this person comes
01:00:26.320
up with ideas and then you'd be like, now I just need to have, I need them to encourage
01:00:31.780
It's almost like different ingredients to come out with a different cake or whatever.
01:00:36.300
So you control their information diet and by, you know, information diet.
01:00:40.780
I mean, and that's, yeah, I mean, I obsess over things.
01:00:44.400
So yeah, it's important, but that's, that's, that's been super helpful.
01:00:47.200
Um, because yeah, it's just, that's how we, cause a big part of getting a hundred million
01:00:53.180
views theoretically on a video is if, uh, any, you know, is it something someone has
01:00:59.320
Like, uh, there's this Ted talk I watched one time and he was talking about how, you
01:01:03.280
know, if you're driving down the road and you just see a cow, you, you probably not
01:01:09.400
But if you're driving down the road and there's a purple cow, you're going to look like four
01:01:14.080
You're going to remember that like you, you know, someone could ask you a year later and
01:01:17.980
And it's like, the only difference is it's purple.
01:01:20.120
And it's kind of the same way on social media, right?
01:01:22.460
Like if you're scrolling through videos and it's something you've seen before, nothing
01:01:27.040
It's just the, it's almost like you should visualize as like, that's the equivalent of
01:01:31.300
But if it's something they've never seen before, like you putting a bunker underground and two
01:01:35.200
people living in it, that's, that is the equivalent of a purple cow on social media.
01:01:38.920
Like, how do I make something that Prince would drink milk out of, you know?
01:01:43.500
Like, how do you make something that Prince would drink milk out of?
01:01:52.500
You know, I'm talking about Prince from Minnesota?
01:02:00.040
He's a musician, but purple, he was like a purple guy.
01:02:17.740
I'm saying the same thing you're saying, I think.
01:02:22.300
So it's just, if anyone watching ever wants to do social media, make your ideas the purple cow.
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Like, what are some common misconceptions about you or your work, do you feel like?
01:06:56.580
Um, I would say the biggest one is, I think, uh, people think we make content for kids
01:07:08.340
Yeah, and it's, uh, a lot of, because I've been famous, famous, air quotes, I don't know,
01:07:14.440
but for a while now, and I, the thing is, when I was, like, in my young, like, 20 years,
01:07:19.580
I'm 26 now, and I was, like, 20 or 21, I didn't have much experience with storytelling
01:07:24.120
or, or, like, making these, like, videos with contestants and, like, how to, like,
01:07:30.020
So, back then, the videos came across a little, like, uh, ADHD, like, fast-paced or whatever,
01:07:35.180
because I, it's not like I had Christopher Nolan as a father teaching me.
01:07:37.920
I was just learning storytelling as I was going.
01:07:39.940
So, a lot of my videos back then got a lot of views, and, like, same when I was, like,
01:07:43.980
22 or 23, but, you know, the last three years, we've really leveled up the storytelling
01:07:48.060
and building characters, and especially the last 18 months, and gotten better at, like,
01:07:51.560
making content that, um, you know, people in their 20s and 30s would be, like, well,
01:07:55.980
this is, like, good and could enjoy, but because a lot of people haven't seen my newer videos
01:08:01.240
and watched my older ones, they still think all my videos are like that, so they just kind of,
01:08:05.300
So, like, when someone says, like, ah, your videos are too ADHD, and you don't have any
01:08:10.660
storytelling, I'll usually, like, show them, like, one or two of our newer videos, and I'm, like,
01:08:13.940
oh, my God, this is great, and I was, like, yeah, let me guess, you just haven't seen a video
01:08:17.060
in two years, and I'm, like, yeah, and so that kind of is a little bit of a misconception
01:08:22.860
Yeah, is that you're still, like, this kind of just entertainment for kids, or that your
01:08:26.100
entertainment, your ability to entertain is also still junior.
01:08:31.100
Yeah, exactly, and so, um, which, obviously, younger people watch the videos.
01:08:35.600
I mean, I think, like, anyone, you know, could watch that bunker video and be, like, whoa,
01:08:43.040
The child inside of me liked it, and the adult inside of me liked it.
01:08:49.040
I guess other misconceptions of it is, like, we, I mean, we, it looks like a lot of these
01:08:55.440
videos just, you know, it just looks like me and the boys having fun, because that's
01:09:00.440
I want to put the boys in an environment where they're just themselves and things like
01:09:03.740
I think people think what I do is a lot easier than it is.
01:09:06.720
Like, like, these things are monster, monumental projects that are a bitch to fucking do.
01:09:13.000
And it's like, you know, and you know, a hundred plus million people are going to watch it.
01:09:16.820
And, you know, like, so everything's just got to be fucking great and perfect.
01:09:19.640
And, but we don't have years to do these things.
01:09:21.940
We're trying to do what most people would do in a year, in two months.
01:09:26.780
And it's, it's just, we don't have the budgets of these giant studios or anything when we're
01:09:32.000
And it's just, it's, it's very, very difficult.
01:09:42.320
I, I don't even know if we have, I guess Mr. Beast Studios.
01:09:44.820
But yeah, it's a, it's just a lot of pressure because it's a, yeah, it's just a lot of people
01:09:50.460
These, and it's, it's just absurd to think that I have all these employees and we're spending
01:09:54.940
And I just assume like the magical YouTube algorithm when I post this video is just going to give
01:09:59.980
it to a hundred million people every single time.
01:10:01.980
And it's like, it's just like, that's a lot of stress.
01:10:04.400
And it's like, it's a lot of people who, you know, watch the, it's just a lot of everything.
01:10:10.400
And it's like, if I don't film, then there's no video.
01:10:13.720
So it's also not a typical business because, you know, you can, any other company, you can
01:10:20.860
I am like, literally, if I'm just like, yo, for the next month, I don't want to film.
01:10:27.100
So it's like, it's a, yeah, it's, I, I wouldn't, I, I just, it's a lot.
01:10:36.560
But do you, did you know it was going to be that much stress?
01:10:46.820
And at first I remember I could barely do one episode a week was tough.
01:10:52.180
But then some days I'll go through and it's like, this just starts to feel easier.
01:10:58.260
And then there's a part of my brain that's like, okay, well now what can we do?
01:11:01.520
But that same part of my brain is just the brain that, that forgets like fucking, we barely
01:11:09.580
So it's tough for me to like monitor the different parts of my brain.
01:11:12.400
The one that wants to do more or try new things.
01:11:15.780
And the one that also wants to make sure we're okay where we're at and not forget.
01:11:23.380
So most of the time I work now, it's like, I guess what my, my question is like, I don't
01:11:31.780
It's like, how do you, which side of the pendulum are you swinging between being stressed
01:11:36.520
and wanting to die constantly or like prioritizing being happy and, and
01:11:42.080
Do you know, did you know you were as competitive in, and, or do you think you're competing
01:11:46.100
against like the algorithm or you want people to see it?
01:11:49.340
Like, you know, what is that thing that are you able to notice?
01:11:51.760
Like, cause I don't even know sometimes what drives me to do things or even want to learn
01:11:56.500
I would say I, like you, I'm just incredibly, incredibly, incredibly competitive.
01:12:03.620
And I, it's the thing is, I think people have a misconception.
01:12:06.220
They like try to put everyone, especially famous people in a box where it's like, this
01:12:12.320
And I, I believe you can be motivated by multiple things, right?
01:12:16.440
Like one thing that pushes me is the fact that, you know, a lot of my friends I grew
01:12:21.760
And I don't want to ever have to fire them because we can't afford to pay them.
01:12:24.540
I have people who, you know, moved across the world to come work for me.
01:12:28.040
So, you know, that's one thing that motivates me being able to provide for the people who
01:12:32.520
Another thing that motivates me is I just love entertaining people.
01:12:35.140
And the fact that I get to entertain a hundred million people or 200 million people or whatever
01:12:39.100
it is, like, I think our average videos are doing 200 million views the first year.
01:12:42.000
Like, I know that's a thing that won't last forever.
01:12:45.560
I mean, that's like, at some point, you know, I'm not going to be able to upload something
01:12:49.780
and 3% of the humans alive are going to watch it.
01:12:52.780
So part of it is I want to make sure I'm like taking advantage of the opportunity I
01:12:56.780
have here because this is like, I, what, and when I'm 40, I can't expect that.
01:13:02.820
And another one is like, it just, for whatever reason, it just is like built in my blood.
01:13:12.420
And like, I don't really know what else to do with my life.
01:13:17.520
And if I'm not working on something like stimulating and pushing and innovating, I just
01:13:25.780
You know, you get that from was your, one of your folks, you think?
01:13:30.880
Cause I don't really celebrate wins or anything.
01:13:38.280
I think just some people are hardwired like that.
01:13:40.120
And I think, but I, I, I think, um, you just gotta be who you are.
01:13:44.700
Like that, it just is who I am, but there's, there's other people who see my lifestyle.
01:13:48.540
Cause I've talked about it on podcasts and, you know, a lot of creators want to be like
01:13:51.540
me and, um, and then they end up scaling up bigger teams and they end up trying to do
01:13:55.240
videos like me and then they end up there find out they're miserable and they'd fucking
01:13:59.960
And so I wouldn't, I wouldn't advise this for most creators, right?
01:14:03.300
Like I don't, I like, I don't have work-life balance.
01:14:07.120
No, I just, I mean, I'm like, there are some months where, you know, I film 28 days and
01:14:13.940
I still do, uh, you know, uh, film 28 days on the main channel that I, I film for our
01:14:19.240
I still film stuff for Tik TOK cause we have over a hundred million followers to Tik TOK and
01:14:25.300
And, um, it's, it's like, I mean, it's basically if my eyes are open, I'm, it's like, you know,
01:14:31.500
I have a person whose job is just to help me basically write everything I want to accomplish
01:14:36.920
I mean, it will take up the size of this wall and it's like all my priles and things
01:14:40.160
I could be doing things I should be doing things.
01:14:43.340
And then, you know, we'll just go in the next seven days, I'll circle all the things I want
01:14:47.700
to do ancillary on top of what naturally I have to do.
01:14:50.160
And, um, and then he'll just like schedule out basically every second my eyes are open.
01:14:54.900
Um, and, and, uh, which is good because it helps me, I sometimes fall into the trap of
01:15:00.520
Like, you know, my content, you know, channel needs me to film this, this needs feastables
01:15:05.560
And, but you know, you're never going to achieve something great if you're just constantly
01:15:09.120
like, like a ping pong ball being told what you need to do by your employees.
01:15:12.400
So occasionally you need to be proactive and do other things that, you know, other people
01:15:16.260
wouldn't think of and be a little bit more of a visionary.
01:15:17.920
So doing that kind of helps make sure I'm prioritizing things correctly and things like
01:15:22.420
Well, it's interesting because in the beginning you're kind of working for yourself because
01:15:26.220
you're the creator, but then you build an audience and then you start to work for the
01:15:32.160
Um, and there's no judgment against that, but I just noticed that in my own life in the
01:15:35.060
beginning, like I'd give anything to have an audience, you know, but it's more like
01:15:37.860
me, it felt like me being me, but then it's also starts to feel like you now, and now
01:15:44.160
You, you, I, yeah, cause you technically couldn't just 180 and like, you know, uh, cause
01:15:50.840
And so, yeah, I guess technically you're working, working for them in a way.
01:15:56.160
I was going to say, what did you learn about being a boss?
01:15:58.020
Like, cause I never wanted to be like having any employees, right?
01:16:05.740
I wanted to have pizza, you know, you know, sounds like the life.
01:16:16.920
I think that, what did you learn about yourself?
01:16:20.680
Like I learned that if I don't show up in a comfortable way, then, uh, it's, it affects
01:16:27.540
I've learned that I have to communicate better as to what I want or cause people don't just
01:16:32.520
Like those are some things that I've learned, learned the hard way kind of, were there things
01:16:39.540
Um, cause I went from one to, I think now across everything I employ over 400 people.
01:16:45.520
So it's like, yeah, I mean that when I first started hiring people, I was, I was 19.
01:16:55.880
I mean, at the start, I literally went to, this is how stupid I was when I was a teenager.
01:16:59.900
I literally went to, uh, a comedy club or whatever comedy tree.
01:17:09.220
He's still here seven days later, seven years later.
01:17:11.040
But, uh, I went to an open mic and I was just like, you know, um, I want my YouTube channel
01:17:17.800
So I'm just going to go hire some random comedians at an open mic.
01:17:20.460
So I just went to one and then I just was like writing on like a notepad every time they,
01:17:26.300
And then the ones that made me laugh the most, they just afterwards went backstage and I was
01:17:33.700
And then after that, I went into like my local Best Buy, you know, like the electronics store.
01:17:38.000
This, I mean, it's fucking stupid, but I didn't know what I was doing.
01:17:41.580
Like, obviously if you want to hire people, you should just go find production people or
01:17:45.760
people with creative experience or whatever, not going to a local Best Buy.
01:17:48.840
And I hired like seven people in my local electronic store.
01:17:51.660
And so I have like this ragtag group of, uh, comedians and this ragtag group of people
01:17:58.720
And I'm like, yo, and mixed in with some people I just hired from my high school.
01:18:02.480
And I'm like, and we're making these videos that are getting views and like, I'm scaling
01:18:06.500
up and I'm like, you know, I'm like, guys, let's give my 3 million subscriber 3 million
01:18:10.360
And they're like, how the fuck do we get 3 million pennies?
01:18:17.740
I didn't know what I was doing because I wish I had a mentor or something.
01:18:21.880
Um, but then after a while I realized, oh, maybe I should hire people who have a little
01:18:26.100
bit of experience in this field, not laptop salesmen and comedians.
01:18:30.160
And, um, over time we kind of, I started to figure it out.
01:18:36.060
Like you kept, you were like, this is how I do.
01:18:40.040
I need a guy who can, you know, sell refrigerators, but talk about also iPods, right?
01:18:47.460
The Best Buy is the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life.
01:18:50.420
Cause some of those people are just smoking weed and wearing a shirt.
01:18:59.600
Um, one of them ended up being a convicted felon too.
01:19:02.680
And I didn't even realize that when I hired him, but yeah, so it's just like, oh, you
01:19:10.940
I realized I was supposed to do background checks when I was a teenager.
01:19:16.260
I mean, everything I, I didn't know how payroll worked or taxes.
01:19:25.560
Um, and I just had to learn it through trial and error, but this, we have an audience the
01:19:28.940
So it's not like I can just pause things and then like, go, oh, let me just get rid of
01:19:32.720
all these Best Buy and comedians and replace them for real people.
01:19:34.580
So I have to keep filming, but these videos we're filming are videos.
01:19:38.900
So these are really complicated things that are constantly going wrong.
01:19:41.400
Like I think back then, like one in three videos I filmed, just like, I didn't like it.
01:19:45.280
So I scrapped it or it got fucked up when we were filming it or whatever, because like
01:19:49.640
it was, these were just big spectacles and we just didn't have the team for it.
01:19:55.100
And like, there was one time where I like, uh, I accidentally overspent and we were like
01:20:09.280
I think we'll make like, you know, 200 grand or whatever.
01:20:19.180
Well that, but we just didn't have money growing up.
01:20:21.680
So like, like when, when I wanted to like, when I think one month we made like a hundred
01:20:26.960
thousand dollars and she was like very adamant.
01:20:33.920
And I was like, no, actually I was thinking of, uh, just give me like a hundred thousand
01:20:39.120
People would like, and she's like, she like for 10 hours straight was like, why not give
01:20:45.040
It's like, because I, and this is where I'm a lot better at communicating now than I was
01:20:50.060
And I was like, I mean, you're talking like, this is a guy who grew up with pimples, didn't
01:20:53.720
communicate much, sat in his room and fucking worked on YouTube videos and obsessed over,
01:20:57.440
you know, business and entrepreneurship where everyone else just want to watch South Park.
01:21:02.580
So my social skills, like skills were negative 10,000.
01:21:08.300
So I'd just be like, and like in hindsight, it's kind of obvious, but at the time, like
01:21:11.840
there's a huge language barrier between me and my mom.
01:21:14.300
Cause all that existed in this brain was make the best way it was possible, you know?
01:21:21.060
I was, I was a robot that, that, that is what I live for.
01:21:25.700
And so I was just like, if we made a hundred grand, why would I not spend the hundred grand
01:21:32.200
And I was like, but if I put it away, I would just spend it on other videos.
01:21:38.160
And we would just do that hours every single day.
01:21:40.580
You're like, if I put away 20 grand, you know, that I'm only going to be able to make 80%
01:21:45.800
You know, it's just, why am I putting the money away?
01:21:58.820
And she's, she'd just be like, and, but, and I also didn't fully realize this, but you
01:22:03.640
know, she would even get trauma to like 2008 when they lost everything and went bankrupt.
01:22:10.580
But yeah, so that, that's what would make it intense.
01:22:13.460
And I didn't fully understand it at the time either.
01:22:15.240
So it would like get her to the point where she would cry because I would reinvest everything.
01:22:19.060
And she just like, didn't want what happened to her in 2008 to happen to me.
01:22:27.760
And so that happened, that was a thing for a very long time, but eventually she got to
01:22:36.260
Cause then like it helped my relationship with her a lot because she started stressing less.
01:22:46.880
When shit happens, she just goes, I know you'll figure it out.
01:22:56.560
Did you guys ever go to a concert together or something?
01:22:58.520
What do you, y'all like to do anything together?
01:23:04.260
So I, we joke like in 10 years, all the things we'll do when like things kind of cool off.
01:23:13.900
Like, I think it was like four days ago, like a really long message saying how like,
01:23:17.000
she was very grateful that she still gets to work with me and do things with me.
01:23:20.060
And how like most people in my position would like push their mom away, but we, we do a
01:23:24.620
lot of our bonding is like doing work stuff and things like that because it's like, then
01:23:30.480
Like if we went to a concert, like she would see through that facade, she would know I'm
01:23:34.480
not doing that because I care just doing it to like check a box.
01:23:37.360
So, but when we work together, it's like genuinely fulfilling and it's cool to like,
01:23:42.300
Well, it, the stuff she was doing when we're building the business.
01:23:46.680
Now we have it to stuff that's a little more chill and where it's fun.
01:23:49.600
Like, you know, we have hundreds of employees that have Divi cards and all these things.
01:23:53.740
And so we have a lot of bank accounts, you know, how do you know, you know, someone's
01:23:58.540
So who else can you trust besides your mom to control the master accounts?
01:24:01.800
Cause at some point there's a master key is someone who could, I mean, if they wanted
01:24:05.120
to just withdraw a million dollars and just fucking run to Mexico.
01:24:08.340
So like, that's like a really big thing that I count on my mom just to like manage the
01:24:13.000
accounts and make sure there's no fraud and stuff like that.
01:24:14.900
Cause I don't fucking know like, um, and things like that.
01:24:17.620
But yeah, it's, uh, it's been a, it's been a fun journey.
01:24:24.640
It's kind of crazy that like moms just put 18 years of their life, just pouring everything
01:24:33.360
Like this human and most humans look up most humans or whatever.
01:24:43.380
And then they just unleash you in the wild and then you just move on.
01:24:51.600
Cause I'm thinking about how, like, you know, when I, I love to spoil my mom.
01:24:55.680
Cause I'm like, you just like gave everything for 18 years, especially after 2008 and all
01:25:01.600
this stuff, you know, worked multiple jobs just so I could like, at the time, what you
01:25:05.900
thought was just be a brat and work on YouTube videos.
01:25:08.180
And you thought, you know, just basically it almost would have seen my, my purpose in
01:25:13.480
Yet you kept raising me and didn't give up on me.
01:25:15.600
Um, and it's like, so I think of that and then I'm like, fuck, I need to spoil my mom.
01:25:19.440
Cause like, you know, like I think of a different parallel universe where I'm not in this position.
01:25:24.020
It's like, damn, I would never have been able to like repay her for all that time.
01:25:30.260
There's been, um, recently like in the news and stuff, I'm not as abreast on it, but there
01:25:35.560
was like, uh, they were trying, it seemed like they were trying to like poke holes in
01:25:42.120
But a lot of it, um, like they were, I don't know if there was like, uh, different allegations
01:25:49.820
and stuff again, if it was against you or your company, but none of it, from what I've
01:25:54.800
seen, there was never, there was never any like, uh, validity to it.
01:26:00.520
Do you believe that there was actually something going on at your company that was bad?
01:26:04.180
Or do you believe that other people, like at a certain point, if your company is doing
01:26:09.720
so well that other companies are outside dark interests, get upset and tried to lead like
01:26:22.200
It's, uh, the thing is, again, I have hundreds of employees that I employ full time, but I've
01:26:29.200
And sometimes like, uh, you know, sometimes we have hundreds of contractors just working
01:26:33.240
on singular videos because the sets are so big.
01:26:37.140
It's impossible for there never to be anything negative.
01:26:40.520
You know, that's why you have HR and things like that.
01:26:42.740
So, um, no, I mean, it would, it'd be, uh, crazy to say there's never been any issues
01:26:48.300
where no one that's ever worked for me has ever been unhappier or, you know, one employee
01:26:52.000
has never said anything, you know, dumb to some other employee that made them want to
01:26:56.220
So, um, but I think the thing is, it's just obviously completely blown out of proportion.
01:27:01.600
Like that's not a thing that's just particular to us.
01:27:03.500
Any company with hundreds of employees, obviously there's going to occasionally be something
01:27:07.060
someone says is something that's inappropriate or something that's not ideal, but that's where
01:27:11.440
when we're made aware of it, we obviously have HR look into it.
01:27:14.960
Or if it's something serious, we'll bring in an outside third party, have them look into
01:27:19.640
And it's weird for you because if something happens at Nike, then it's like, there's an
01:27:24.380
issue, there's something happened at Nike, but if something happens at a production company
01:27:27.800
and you're are basically the fat, you were exactly the business, then a lot of it probably
01:27:33.460
Like I have people I employ that I've never met in my life.
01:27:36.760
I mean, cause we just have so many, um, people and some of them don't work in my hometown
01:27:41.640
So, yeah, I mean, the answer is like, yeah, it's absurd to think that, you know, hundreds of
01:27:47.380
people or sometimes over a thousand, when we scale up contractors working together all
01:27:53.860
Um, and yeah, all I can really do is, uh, make sure I'm not creating an environment where
01:27:58.900
we're influencing that, which we're doing our best.
01:28:01.300
And like, um, and then when those kinds of things happen, just bring in someone to look
01:28:06.640
into it and just be like, yo, tell me what to do because I'm a fucking YouTuber.
01:28:10.740
You know, if someone says something like, you know, Hey there darling or whatever.
01:28:14.940
And then someone, that person feels like that was inappropriate.
01:28:19.080
I want to, I don't want someone in my company to be a judge of it.
01:28:21.320
I want to bring someone in and be like, yo, talk to them, gather the facts and you tell
01:28:25.360
me what I'm supposed to do, which is what we do.
01:28:30.340
It would seem like, God, it would just seem like so much stuff is out of your hands when
01:28:33.380
it's got to be tough when you're a creator, you know, because you want to be do every,
01:28:37.720
you know, you kind of want to do everything and have it as a business scales.
01:28:40.160
It's kind of tough because you can't, you know, um, what else did I want to ask you about?
01:28:44.860
Oh, I wanted to ask you about, he's got the flashcards.
01:28:53.860
Uh, so yeah, like you've had, like we were talking earlier about like philanthropy.
01:28:56.780
So you had like, you've taken plastics out of the ocean, right?
01:29:05.720
Um, you put the water, you've done water wells in Africa or Zambia.
01:29:13.640
Did you, um, like, what is, is, is there like a overall goal of like a big crazy vision
01:29:20.900
you see for the future of like some sort of philanthropic idea for us or just in general?
01:29:26.240
So yeah, just in general, it could be anything.
01:29:28.400
Um, well, the thing I've been focusing most of my time on in that area recently is, um,
01:29:34.860
so for feastables, obviously chocolate is made of cocoa.
01:29:37.520
There's a lot of unethical stuff that goes on at cocoa farms.
01:29:42.400
Look, I've used, yeah, it depends on what kind of farms we're talking about, but I, yeah.
01:29:49.580
Like, uh, so majority of the world's cocoa comes from Cotevara, Ghana.
01:29:54.320
Uh, it's like, I believe like 70% of the world's cocoa and like Cotevara, Vanna, Cotevara,
01:30:13.140
And so, but 46% of the labor on farms there, which is where almost all the cocoa in the
01:30:19.980
So it's like pretty, pretty like just a lot of things going on there.
01:30:23.600
And so, um, that's where I've been focusing on my attention.
01:30:26.060
Cause obviously we need a lot of cocoa for feastables.
01:30:28.000
And so we used to, uh, get our cocoa from Peru, which ethical sourcing is not as big
01:30:34.700
And we use a lot of, uh, family owned farms and blah, blah, blah.
01:30:37.400
But the thing is, um, there's not enough cocoa comes from Peru to supply big chocolate.
01:30:43.680
And I wanted to show like, so saying I ethically sourced my cocoa from Peru doesn't really
01:30:48.380
prove anything because big other chocolate companies will just go, okay, but we can't
01:30:56.440
It's not possible to ethically source cocoa in West Africa.
01:30:59.180
So, um, uh, and I knew if feastables kept growing, eventually we'd have to switch over
01:31:04.180
So this past year we switched our supply chain over there and we've been.
01:31:07.400
Just working with a, have you ever heard of Tony Shacoloni?
01:31:13.440
Well, it's a reporter who went like super deep, uh, in exposing like the chocolate industry
01:31:20.640
And then, but, and he was like, and no, no chocolate companies would, uh, ethically source
01:31:25.540
And he kept exposing them and none of them were doing anything.
01:31:31.140
I didn't know there was bad chocolate out there.
01:31:32.700
So he started his own chocolate company to prove that you could ethically source it.
01:31:36.040
And he called it Tony's chocolate lonely because it's the lonely.
01:31:41.980
And so I've been working with them to figure out how we can also ethically source our chocolate.
01:31:47.040
Um, because they're, they're the only ones really doing it.
01:31:54.320
And so like all our farmers were fair trade certified.
01:31:56.820
And then we pay our farmers a living income because a big reason why there's child labor
01:31:59.960
is because farmers in West Africa just don't make enough money.
01:32:02.480
So it's like, that is like, if you're to rank the issues, like the number one issue is
01:32:07.600
Like they just can't even afford to hire adults.
01:32:11.740
So what they do and what we're doing for festivals is, um, we pay, there's a living
01:32:16.440
income reference price where they basically look at the cost of bread, the cost of living
01:32:22.360
And they go, if a farmer were to sell you a metric ton of beans, if they don't get paid
01:32:26.780
this number, then they won't be able to make a living, uh, income.
01:32:30.560
They won't be able to live, which then means they'll be forced to use child labor because
01:32:33.740
if not, it's like they're, that's the only way they'll be able to survive.
01:32:38.920
So they need to make, uh, and I'm paraphrasing this is mile high stuff, but they need to
01:32:42.260
make this theoretical number, which is living in income reference price.
01:32:47.180
So they're, um, if like they theoretically sell us the cocoa, a metric ton of cocoa for
01:32:52.260
less than that, we'll pay a premium on top and be like, no, here's extra money.
01:32:55.620
This is what you need to make so you can actually live.
01:32:57.960
Um, but you know, we don't want child labor on the farm.
01:33:00.960
So we'll, we'll guarantee you'll, you'll make this much, but they're, I don't want to see
01:33:10.600
Um, and then do like, they have farm coaches that, cause another way to help farmers make
01:33:15.820
more money is not just pay them more, but it's also helped them get more yield out of
01:33:19.540
So they have coaches that will help counsel them and, you know, theoretically try to help
01:33:23.140
them get five or 10% more yield out of the same hectares they have.
01:33:30.860
Cause it's, it's an income problem for a lot of them.
01:33:34.120
Like you could go to the farm and be like, stop using child labor, but if they can't,
01:33:37.700
if they can't survive, the family can't eat if the kids don't also work.
01:33:45.620
I actually spent recently a week in Ghana, just going through the whole supply chain.
01:33:49.280
So I worked on the farm, you know, and then you laid the crack, the pods laid out to dry
01:33:53.700
and then saw like where they dry and then where they store the beans.
01:33:56.440
And like, even how like the government, like, um, does QC on the beans went through the
01:34:01.960
Just like, so this has been the last year, probably like a good fucking chunk of my time
01:34:07.140
has been going to like figure out ethical sourcing with them because it's, it's very
01:34:12.220
So I just want to make sure we're doing it right.
01:34:15.280
And also that's a way of, that's a really a big form of philanthropy itself because, you
01:34:20.540
know, just teaching these people how to do, how to have more success in their own
01:34:26.420
You teach one person in an area and then they can be a leader and teach other people.
01:34:29.620
It's like, you don't even know that's kind of the residual effects of that.
01:34:31.220
Well, the bigger thing is, I hope to, um, like, I hope to get it where if Feastables
01:34:37.740
keeps growing, where we can be like, look, we're a big chocolate company and we're ethically
01:34:43.940
So then we can look at other big chocolate companies and go, you have no excuse, right?
01:34:47.460
Right now they can all just say, it's impossible.
01:34:49.700
You don't understand, you know, you don't have scale at companies our size.
01:34:53.820
This is like, this is a fairytale dream, but because no one's doing it, um, you know, that's
01:34:59.660
So if we can get to that point where theoretically we're selling a billion dollars a year of chocolate
01:35:03.420
and it's ethically sourced and it's profitable, then like they have no excuse.
01:35:07.780
And so like, cause there's over a million kids in child labor and on cocoa farms in West
01:35:13.280
And like Feastables itself is not going to be able to get all a million out, but if we could theoretically
01:35:16.720
get tens of thousands of kids out of child labor and then use that in my platform
01:35:21.260
and stuff like this to bully everyone else, then hopefully that can create a snowball that
01:35:25.200
gets hundreds of thousands of kids out of child labor.
01:35:34.220
And when people eat them, and I'll say this, when people eat them, I judge them.
01:35:47.900
I could say I don't like three musketeers either.
01:35:54.800
I don't know what they're doing before they mail it to me or whatever.
01:36:03.000
Like when I open it up, I don't even, I don't even believe in it.
01:36:06.220
And paydays, the nuts aren't any good in them anymore.
01:36:10.940
Paydays, I feel like if they had like a little more saltiness, a little more nuts, those things would
01:36:16.240
Yeah, it's, it's a little, the chewy stuff in the middle is just a little too overpowering
01:36:20.340
Paydays are like so close to being a phenomenal product.
01:36:22.900
And the nuts used to be a little more, they had more edges on them.
01:36:29.740
I was like this, like fucking shit in the middle.
01:36:38.080
Sometimes it would be like a special thing that she would get, but she would let us watch her
01:36:44.040
Did you, do you ever dealt with like, you're so big on YouTube.
01:36:46.340
Do you ever deal with sanctions and stuff on there?
01:36:50.900
Like, or do you, or they say like, you can't do certain things.
01:36:53.420
Like, do you have to like submit all your videos and, and like go through a process like
01:36:59.980
We can, we can talk about the conspiracy theorists are going to run away with this, but a lot
01:37:04.400
of, uh, there's, uh, when there's like, um, a higher ad, uh, what is it?
01:37:10.140
When you get bigger, there's like a Google preferred or whatever, where it's like a, for
01:37:14.680
bigger advertisers, like Coke or whatever, like premium advertisers, they want to make
01:37:18.760
sure they're not advertising on, you know, bad content.
01:37:21.120
So like for bigger channels, YouTube, if they'll review your video before it goes up, just
01:37:27.000
And you're not just like saying Hitler a thousand times, um, to make sure it's good for bigger
01:37:32.760
So they review it for that, but they do that for, I believe thousands of creators right
01:37:36.100
now, which, you know, but you don't have to do that.
01:37:39.900
But, um, no, I mean, I just post whatever they don't know what I'm doing or anything.
01:37:46.040
Like, do you think they're in a tough position, uh, with what just like having a
01:37:51.060
set up parameters for different videos and like the effect that it could have on certain
01:37:55.400
Like, I always just think about it from my perspective.
01:37:59.460
You know, sometimes like, oh, they'll make us take a joke or this joke or this sort of
01:38:02.660
They may not, you know, well, you, the thing is they're not making you take it out.
01:38:05.980
They're just saying, if you don't take it out, you won't get higher ad rates.
01:38:08.800
Think of any brand that spends a billion dollars a year on marketing.
01:38:11.040
That's them saying, Hey, YouTube, if they hear, if any of these things are in a video,
01:38:17.460
Or we can't put these premium ads on you, which I think makes perfect sense.
01:38:21.280
Sometimes I only look at it from my perspective.
01:38:22.740
I'm not able to look at it from like, oh, also this is a platform where they allow us
01:38:28.140
And then, so they also are trying to do business as well.
01:38:38.440
Uh, I've maybe drank like five times in my life.
01:38:42.820
It's like, is it out of control that it makes you feel you think?
01:38:45.500
No, it just like, well, so I didn't drink alcohol till I was like 23 or 24.
01:38:53.100
So I was, my goal was to go my entire life without ever drinking alcohol.
01:38:56.720
Um, but then I was like with Logan Paul one time or I was at, I was at a casino gambling
01:39:02.460
and then, um, Logan Paul was there and then he was like, let's hang out.
01:39:09.660
It might've been like Floyd Mayweather versus Conor McGregor or something.
01:39:13.580
But so I was like, okay, let's, we can gamble together.
01:39:16.480
And then we're walking to like the tables and he stops by a club.
01:39:24.280
One minute turns into like two hours and I'm just so fucking bored.
01:39:30.800
And I'd never drank in my life, but I'm like something.
01:39:34.720
A lot of people need to drink to be around the pulse.
01:39:36.580
That's when I like, that was the time I did it.
01:39:38.820
And then I was just like, oh, I just kind of like feel weird, but it's not a happy word.
01:39:46.960
I think people, I think it's getting less and less popular in the world.
01:39:49.420
Kind of, especially with like younger generations.
01:39:50.780
It's just like, they just think it's kind of dumb.
01:39:57.220
It's like, it just makes me feel stupid and like, but not a good stupid.
01:40:08.840
Um, in July, you tweeted, if you were to lower the age for president that you might run,
01:40:18.160
I mean, I, I might when I'm older, but not if they lowered it, that was mostly a joke
01:40:24.000
just because I knew people would freak the fuck out and talk about it.
01:40:26.400
Um, and it worked, but I would, uh, if I were to, it would probably be like when I'm like
01:40:33.880
50 or 60, cause I would need to like accomplish everything I want in business and stuff.
01:40:38.340
And then probably take like 10 years and I'd have to go be like a, do something at the
01:40:42.560
local level and then the state level and work my way up.
01:40:46.660
But there could be potentially a president beast.
01:40:50.260
You never know, especially about if you learn a lot.
01:40:52.180
Do you, um, has Elon ever reached out to you to do something cool together?
01:40:55.320
Cause I mean, you guys, at a certain point, you guys are both like, um, uh, pioneers in
01:40:59.980
certain schools of thought and, and, and certainly creative folks.
01:41:04.100
I mean, he's pioneering, taking us to Mars, electric cars, talking with your phone through
01:41:08.480
your brain, digging tunnels, fixing traffic, you know, getting rid of a trillion dollars
01:41:13.460
of waste in the government now and this and that.
01:41:15.860
And I'm pioneering funny videos, so I don't know if I'd put those in, but, um, but kidding.
01:41:23.560
But, um, he, yeah, we, we bumped into each other at the Superbowl said, hi.
01:41:30.520
I think he asked me, do, do, do, do I think people call it, call X Twitter still, or do
01:41:37.060
And I was like, yeah, most people call it Twitter.
01:41:44.180
And then, um, but outside of that, no, not really.
01:41:46.780
I mean, I'm in talks with, um, people at SpaceX and even clicking ideas and things like that,
01:41:54.540
We tried to ask if we, we could interview those, um, the two people stuck up in that.
01:42:02.080
Cause people are like, who, who you want to get on your podcast?
01:42:05.100
And I was trying to think, who can you not get in?
01:42:10.720
Somebody who's just loitering or whatever, you know?
01:42:13.240
And, um, I love how they're not aliens, but yeah, it's like, all right.
01:42:16.780
Do you think you could get Elon on here one day?
01:42:21.220
They just, they offered to send me a Starlink if I want to get one.
01:42:27.000
When you're in fucking Zambia in the middle of nowhere, that's the only, oh, it's Starlink
01:42:32.880
Like Antarctica, you're in the middle of nowhere.
01:42:35.480
And I mean, literally the furthest from human civilization on the planet.
01:42:44.220
Like you need, because a lot of people say in Antarctica that they're hiding secret stuff
01:42:49.920
Antarctic, you should go to Antarctica at some time in your life.
01:42:53.320
Oh, I would love to go up there if they'll have me up there.
01:42:55.900
So there's like, there's, you go to South America and you get on a Boeing 747, like an
01:43:05.640
You go all the way to like the very bottom of Chile.
01:43:10.440
And then you board like a commercial plane, like you're flying like fucking Delta here
01:43:14.920
and it just starts flying and you just, you fly over the ocean and then you see just this
01:43:20.800
just endless abyss of white snow and mountains and you just keep flying deeper and deeper
01:43:27.880
And then you just see this just fucking ice runway.
01:43:31.560
I mean, it's the sketchiest thing you'll ever see in your life.
01:43:33.800
And it just lands this commercial airliner there.
01:43:38.540
I kind of went into it pretty raw and you get off.
01:43:41.760
It's just this janky little like ladder thing type B.
01:43:52.580
And then, um, then that's not the one we went to, but then there's just this, uh, research
01:43:58.480
facility where there's like three big tents that researchers work out of.
01:44:01.260
And then there's like a hundred tents that they all live out of.
01:44:05.160
No, because, uh, there it's like, so the time where it's like sun 24 seven, but then there's
01:44:11.260
like these intense winters, like three or four months a year where it's like dark.
01:44:19.960
Um, and so we get out and there's all these researchers doing experiments and cool shit.
01:44:24.260
And I'm just like, Hey, I'm here to film a video.
01:44:28.820
So we were supposed to just be there for like two days or three days or whatever, but a snow
01:44:33.480
So what we were going to do is just go out in a random direction and then just set up
01:44:37.240
a camp in the middle of nowhere in Antarctica and try to survive for 50 hours.
01:44:41.960
So we're just, we had to sit in these research facilities and wait them out.
01:44:46.960
It's like this, uh, tent with like door and it like flew the door, flung it open.
01:44:52.480
It was so intense that we had to like tie, like pull the door shut.
01:44:57.880
And I'm like, my God, I think we're going to die.
01:45:02.460
They're like, we haven't had a storm like this in a while.
01:45:04.480
And like, uh, you have like all these little tents that you live in and like the big communal
01:45:09.020
tents for the, where everyone hangs out and stuff.
01:45:10.860
And the little tent, like we had to build like actual snow walls around our tent because
01:45:15.300
there's so much wind blowing that like our tents would have got swept away.
01:45:18.960
So we had to, I had to barricade the, I'm like, this is just the normal thing.
01:45:23.320
And so you're like building a wall around your, your, you know, metal pole reinforced
01:45:29.260
Um, and like when the winds would pick up at night, I'm, I'm like, fuck, it's like, is
01:45:37.020
You just run to the bigger tent, but it's like, it was crazy.
01:45:39.620
You know, and also in Antarctica, probably it's like, you can't pee or shit in the snow
01:45:44.380
or anything like, because you can't leave anything behind.
01:45:48.320
And so everything ever, all your waste and stuff, you have to store and carry and hold
01:45:54.640
Uh, well they, they will, but you'll just put it in like, like a piss tank where they'll
01:45:58.260
hold onto it and the shit and the ship bag that they like this big shit thing they had.
01:46:03.280
Um, but also you get snow blindness because there's everything's white and the sun reflects.
01:46:08.240
So you have to wear glasses when you go outside or it'll literally blind you, which was like,
01:46:25.420
It's like crazy to just see you're just in the middle of nowhere.
01:46:29.420
It feels like you're on a different planet and it was like, sometimes you just walk outside.
01:46:40.020
Is there any, no animals, nothing, no roads or nothing, huh?
01:46:44.760
I mean, and like, so after the snowstorm calmed down, we just went out, like got on these like
01:46:53.160
But this is where it gets scary because there's crevasses and ravines and things like that.
01:46:58.060
So you could be walking and then just fall a hundred feet and die, right?
01:47:02.020
Cause there's like the snow could have like slightly piled up over like a hundred foot
01:47:07.640
So you have to have like this device go on in front of you that checks to make sure there's
01:47:11.500
not just like a giant hole you're going to fall in.
01:47:14.780
So we go out in this random direction, scan everything.
01:47:18.180
And then we, uh, scanned like this little, like a hundred foot square foot perimeter,
01:47:23.520
And it's like, guys, if you walk across those flags, there's a chance you'll fucking die.
01:47:27.440
So boys stay within this unless we scan more areas.
01:47:30.420
And then, yeah, we just started setting up tents, raw dogging it in the middle of nowhere,
01:47:34.240
Antarctica, far away from the research facilities.
01:47:36.600
And it was, it was a fucking awesome experience.
01:47:39.620
And then there's this mountain that no one had any records of someone climbing.
01:47:46.020
And so I got to name it, um, which I named it Shopify cause they sponsored the video and
01:47:51.840
But so, but like, uh, it was crazy, man, climbing up this mountain.
01:48:05.640
Like, and there's no people, there's not like Antarctic and you can't go to a bar and
01:48:12.920
So do you think there's crazy stuff going on down there?
01:48:15.260
Like they say, there's a lot of, uh, no, I don't think there's anything.
01:48:25.180
We were deep in there and it's super cold, huh?
01:48:31.460
Well, so the problem is like when you move around and you have so many layers, you start
01:48:35.280
to heat up and then you take the clothes off and then you get really cold.
01:48:38.980
Is there a chance that at one point it was thawed out and it was a normal land and we'll
01:48:43.140
be able to explore it one day and we just don't know, or that's complete nothing?
01:48:56.060
We got hit with, so this is after we left the research facility and now we're going
01:49:00.400
to set up camp and like, yeah, those, those are the goggles you have to wear to not go
01:49:05.720
Um, and then right here is where it's like a human.
01:49:11.080
No, no, that's just the mountains behind us over there.
01:49:14.400
And then this is us setting up our tents and just, I mean, we're just a bunch of stupid
01:49:23.660
Well, yeah, obviously we had a safety expert there, but yeah, but obviously that's it.
01:49:27.320
Then just skip ahead like towards the end where you see me climbing up the mountain.
01:49:33.020
Maybe after this or before it, I just wanted to see, or yeah.
01:49:40.980
No, that's the tent, but it's metal reinforced.
01:49:59.740
I was like, what's, what's the most interesting time I can do an ad read?
01:50:03.360
And I was like, where people wouldn't click off.
01:50:04.800
I was like, you know, while I'm climbing this mountain, it'll probably be more interesting.
01:50:09.440
Do you think you'll get to do a video with Kim Jong-un ever?
01:50:18.080
I feel like they would think it's Western propaganda.
01:50:22.040
I don't think they would let me, you know, when I first started uploading in China, um,
01:50:27.140
they're like, they called me like a American capitalist or whatever, whatever I, uh, post
01:50:32.960
my, like we posted some of our videos that like, uh, got views.
01:50:39.680
So we start, so I stopped posting the videos where we give away money and just more like
01:50:51.720
I don't know what the logic was, but I just noticed that a lot in the comments.
01:50:55.040
So I was like, okay, let me just switch up what I'm posting over here.
01:51:04.560
I'm about to start penguin that I haven't, that HBO show.
01:51:15.740
Like I probably watched that episode we watched earlier a hundred times to give still notes
01:51:19.800
I know it's, but I've also now I just get enjoyment out of watching other people watch
01:51:23.520
it because that episode is mostly locked, but I'm like, so good, man.
01:51:29.260
So it's like my, my like, uh, guilty pleasure is just watching like what other people watch
01:51:42.380
Beast, it's like, um, you, you, there's a party that still thinks part of it's for
01:51:47.040
children and it is for children, but it's also for everyone.
01:51:51.680
I mean, it's the most aged up, mature stuff we've ever done.
01:51:58.680
I told you how much money we spent on it was so much time and effort.
01:52:00.760
And like the YouTube videos you make, and then you upload two months later to sit on
01:52:04.060
this for so long and we have 10 episodes of a film that's like, just to put it out in
01:52:12.600
So you're, so that's something that, that excites you just to see people see it.
01:52:18.020
I'm so, cause most people have no idea what it is and the ones that are going to watch
01:52:23.800
I feel like their minds are just going to be so fucking blown.
01:52:26.400
The fact you told me everybody's on their own individual platform and how many platforms
01:52:35.820
I had to build a thousand of those and then a thousand high, uh, well, we need a 3000
01:52:40.040
hydraulic presses or whatever they're called to open them and, uh, 3000 hydraulics.
01:52:44.200
And it's like to build those and then a thousand foam pits and a thousand crash pads.
01:52:48.360
And then we had to rig up a thousand lightings and a thousand GoPros and then to build all
01:52:53.160
And I mean, even just $5 million of real money, having that there and all that stuff
01:52:57.520
and then building the sets it's, and that's just one of the 10 episodes.
01:53:01.420
So we had to do that 10 times built a fucking city.
01:53:07.360
This field build enough housing for 500 people, build a sports facility, build two massive
01:53:12.340
five story towers, build a helipad, build this, build that, build that, and make it
01:53:19.100
Closest thing I can think is that Angola prison rodeo.
01:53:24.640
I mean, it's not like what you were talking about, but it's like they put on a pretty good
01:53:27.420
event once a year down there and the prisoners are do the rodeo.
01:53:36.420
Pretty awesome if you're into that kind of stuff, but yeah, you would probably, you would
01:53:39.540
definitely be able to do this way better, but just letting you know, there's a little
01:53:49.160
And if you leave the circle, they send the bulls through.
01:53:55.280
So I think they get like a time with a basketball or something.
01:54:16.720
I mean, you ever seen that show Hands on a Hard Body?
01:54:27.700
I haven't seen it, but I've heard of the last take hand off car keeps it type.
01:54:39.920
And the guy's like, nothing getting me to take my hand off, but he is gone.
01:54:43.260
We did last take hand off Lamborghini keeps it.
01:54:48.780
Somebody walked up and was like, hey, you want this chocolate bar?
01:54:54.240
Who takes a chocolate bar off somebody with both hands?
01:54:58.600
So we did one too where we took a million dollars in cash had people put their hands on it.
01:55:03.740
And I think one of the four people, I don't remember.
01:55:07.020
But like, because after like 18 hours, you start to like forget, you know, you're not
01:55:12.300
I think he just like reached to grab something and then was like, oh shit.
01:55:17.900
They say that the world will be changed by individuals and humans.
01:55:21.080
And sometimes you start to think that that's not going to happen.
01:55:23.120
You know, that people are going to expect a government to do it.
01:55:25.480
But then I think you meet somebody like you and you're like, wow, anything is maybe possible,
01:55:29.940
I think that's kind of like a feeling that I really got spending time with you today,
01:55:35.320
And is it tough for you to like, so if you have, if you spend so much time working and
01:55:39.860
would it like, is relationship something that's hard for you to navigate?
01:55:46.080
Is that a tough thing for you to drop in and also be like a regular person?
01:55:49.520
Like, cause I'll notice I'll invite a girl over and then I'll sit there and do work.
01:55:55.640
Just even outside of dating have always been a problem for me because like, I, I think
01:56:00.780
this might've been a traumatic experience cause I still picture it to this day and I occasionally
01:56:05.640
But I remember when I was like 15 or 16, like I was so obsessed with YouTube.
01:56:10.980
I remember like at lunch one time, like one person literally just looked me dead in the
01:56:16.600
eyes and said, do you know how to talk about anything besides fucking YouTube?
01:56:23.620
And I like, and then I was like, okay, I'm going to not talk about YouTube.
01:56:27.420
And then, so I just didn't talk like, and like at one point someone unironically asked
01:56:31.920
me if I was mute, like, cause I was just like in my head, I was like, well, people think
01:56:35.920
I talk about YouTube too much and I don't know anything else besides YouTube.
01:56:40.260
And it was like very like traumatic for me because I was so fucking obsessed with it growing
01:56:47.920
And back then I thought, okay, I'm a freak of nature.
01:56:52.100
And I tried to, I tried to watch South Park and I think it's a good show, but I just didn't
01:56:56.580
And, um, and my like opportunity cost brain back then was like, no, I need to be working.
01:57:04.820
I thought it was because I'm a freak and it's all me, me, me.
01:57:07.280
But then I, as I, when I was like 18 or 19 and it got a little smarter, I realized, no,
01:57:11.800
it's just in my school, there just weren't people who were interested in the same things
01:57:15.480
And so I was like, that's, but it is what it is.
01:57:22.540
Um, and so, uh, no, I don't struggle with the relationships.
01:57:25.660
I, well, I mean, if you just put me in a room with, um, someone who doesn't, isn't trying
01:57:30.820
to achieve anything or doesn't want to do anything extraordinary and just wants to play video
01:57:38.580
Um, but you put me in a room with someone who is building a business, um, and trying
01:57:43.440
Like, I mean, we could probably talk for 10 hours straight, you know what I mean?
01:57:47.980
It's just, those people are pretty rare and you, you don't stumble into them.
01:57:50.740
You have to be very diligent to like have those kinds of people in your life.
01:57:53.900
Um, so yeah, that, that just putting myself around the right kind of people has helped
01:58:01.760
And she understands that like, you know, growing the channel and making great content.
01:58:05.320
And right now with feastables, because we're trying to build an ethical supply chain.
01:58:08.840
So I'm doing this on fucking steroid hard mode and all these other things I'm trying
01:58:13.620
And like, you know, she gets it, you know what I mean?
01:58:17.120
Like there are just some days where I won't be able to come home.
01:58:19.080
There are just some days where, you know, I'm going to film for 16 hours and I'm going
01:58:22.320
to, I will come home and I don't even know if my eyes will be open.
01:58:25.360
Like I'm going to come home and just pass out because it was so intense.
01:58:29.320
Like, and we, we communicate really well and, and that kind of stuff.
01:58:36.900
Like, did you have to say like, will you, can I subscribe to your heart or something
01:58:40.160
Like, no, I, um, it's actually nice though, because one thing I've found is, um, because
01:58:47.680
You do have to take time off, even though I hate that you, you can't work all the time.
01:58:51.300
And so I found that in the past, I would just like, if I went eight days, like really hard
01:58:55.160
or nine days, like sometimes I could get it to 10 or 12 in a row, I would just like wake
01:59:01.400
And I need to like watch an anime or something to like decompress and blah, blah.
01:59:05.920
But I found like, if I consistently spend time with my girlfriend, I don't like boil up to
01:59:10.380
this point where I'm so stressed and I need to crash.
01:59:17.780
It's like, you know, because then I get these, it's like decompression shots when I hang
01:59:21.280
out with her like more consistently, because it's like, you know, when you just go home
01:59:24.820
alone to an empty bed, it's like, what do you do besides just sit there and think about
01:59:27.860
But if you have this beautiful woman, you're like, oh, this is cool.
01:59:31.940
And it's like, helps you like take your mind off work.
01:59:33.840
So I've noticed that's been a good benefit is like, I don't, I just don't have like borderline
01:59:44.200
So you got to connect with people to get put you in a little bit better, better place.
01:59:53.860
I, you know, yeah, I'd love to chat again sometime about business or something.
01:59:58.660
Sometimes you think they're, they're heroes or they're great.
02:00:00.580
And sometimes once you learn about them, that's kind of like, whatever, you know,
02:00:06.440
I'm sorry that I was better from afar to let you down.
02:00:15.600
Um, are you ever doing a show in North Carolina if they're children or adults?
02:00:21.300
If you do a show in North Carolina, we'll be there.
02:00:24.060
Uh, thanks so much for all the content and entertainment.
02:00:25.980
I'm excited to see what you do in the future, man.
02:00:30.060
I hate getting, but I think it's just like anything is possible.
02:00:33.260
I hate fucking getting, that's why I'm giving them to you.
02:00:39.780
I thought, you know, sometimes you just go on a podcast and it's an absolute shit show,
02:00:44.860
And I think you're very exceptional at what you do and watch your vernacular is, is very
02:00:49.160
And I just really loved, uh, your shoes and how you did things.
02:00:58.380
And just all around a good environment and everything.
02:01:06.660
See, does, am I the only one, all right, to close it on this, am I the only one that
02:01:10.060
feels uncomfortable when people talk about you like that?
02:01:14.200
I, I, I can't wait for them to get done saying exactly nice.
02:01:18.440
And I've had to train myself to just sit there and take it because I used to always
02:01:21.680
change the subject and it would make it even more uncomfortable because, and, and kind
02:01:25.940
So now I've just like practice, like doing this, but because before I noticed my default
02:01:32.400
would always just be to these people start complimenting and I just change the subject
02:01:37.280
I'll be like, Oh, that's sweet of you to say we should go outdoors.
02:01:44.360
I was wondering the other day if the jets will win anything this year and people were
02:01:50.160
Sometimes you navigate it a little bit better as time goes on.
02:02:07.080
I'm going to have a half, like a, um, wellness facility for people who are recovering from
02:02:12.220
And it's on a, on land that has an aquifer so they can access water.
02:02:16.120
And the people that are getting well are, are helping to create like, uh, so they,
02:02:22.880
And then the water gets sold and the money goes to the facility.
02:02:26.300
So it's like, cause so many people have been ruined by addiction that our government supported,
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Or didn't really combat like an opioid epidemic.
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So I'm like, well, how do you beat them and you get something everybody needs that's
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And then every time they buy it, they're helping somebody get clean, you know?
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Or what if you give them drugs and they go sell drugs and then they just put their addiction
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Cause they, they probably know the drug landscape and other addicts really well.
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You're kind of putting them in a whole new territory.
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I feel like just lean into what they're good at.
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We'll try both, you know, and we'll get some, we'll get some.
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He's been trying to end this for like five minutes.
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Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind.