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00:01:21.780 Today's guest is one of the biggest young acting person people in the world.

00:01:27.820 Acting humans.

00:01:29.100 You've seen him in Dune.

00:01:30.820 Willy Wonka.

00:01:31.980 A beautiful boy.

00:01:33.100 And now his new movie, A Complete Unknown, where he plays Bob Dylan in theaters Christmas Day.

00:01:40.200 You can check it out.

00:01:41.280 I had a great time getting to know him.

00:01:43.480 He's an enthralling dang human.

00:01:47.520 Today's guest is Timothy Chalamet.

00:01:50.260 And I will find a song.

00:01:53.480 I've been singing such a road.

00:02:01.880 We were just in Nashville.

00:02:04.060 Let's start there.

00:02:04.700 Are we good, Zach?

00:02:05.280 Yeah.

00:02:06.760 Cool beans.

00:02:08.380 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:09.020 Yeah, I saw you were just in Nashville.

00:02:10.220 Yeah.

00:02:10.520 Had you been there before?

00:02:11.500 Yeah, once.

00:02:12.280 Kind of exploring.

00:02:13.660 I was doing a movie called Bones and All.

00:02:14.980 I was trying to do research.

00:02:15.800 Oh, yeah.

00:02:16.340 My producer's favorite.

00:02:17.380 No way.

00:02:17.800 Yeah, I haven't seen it yet.

00:02:18.400 That we just met?

00:02:18.680 Yep, that guy.

00:02:19.220 Zach is his name.

00:02:20.580 No way.

00:02:20.980 And he loves it.

00:02:21.480 Yeah, he really loves it.

00:02:22.260 No way.

00:02:22.860 So I wandered there.

00:02:25.460 And this time I got a better sense of it.

00:02:27.320 It's a great city, huh?

00:02:28.560 Yeah, it's a good place.

00:02:29.340 It's like a little city.

00:02:31.200 It's like a little city.

00:02:34.320 Kind of like a fancy little city.

00:02:35.960 It's almost like the JonBenet of cities.

00:02:37.940 Of cities.

00:02:38.080 Kind of like, you know, look at this outfit, kind of, you know.

00:02:41.840 But dangerous at the same time.

00:02:43.040 But it has kind of like an element of mystery, kind of.

00:02:45.940 That's kind of a weird example.

00:02:47.260 No, but you're not.

00:02:47.900 Are you from there?

00:02:48.880 No, I'm from Louisiana.

00:02:49.940 But Nashville, here's what it is.

00:02:51.760 It's safe.

00:02:52.480 It's nice.

00:02:53.320 People are friendly.

00:02:55.220 You can't cheat on your wife there.

00:02:56.740 So it's not.

00:02:57.780 Because the city's too small.

00:02:58.760 Too small.

00:02:59.300 Okay.

00:02:59.560 You couldn't take your wife or spouse or significant other.

00:03:04.100 You couldn't even.

00:03:04.680 Yeah, like.

00:03:05.680 And you couldn't take them to dinner or something and not see somebody that would know.

00:03:09.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:09.680 One of you or them.

00:03:10.600 So it's.

00:03:11.140 There's like 14 people.

00:03:12.320 Yeah.

00:03:12.620 Well, there's just.

00:03:13.280 There's enough people.

00:03:14.120 But there's a.

00:03:14.560 It's a.

00:03:14.900 The South's a little gossipy.

00:03:16.380 Uh-huh.

00:03:16.700 Okay.

00:03:17.100 So there's a lot of like.

00:03:18.180 It's not a really an adultery city.

00:03:19.760 It's not a city that's.

00:03:21.400 Adultery is not like a trademark of the city, probably.

00:03:23.560 Is it.

00:03:23.940 How is it different from New Orleans?

00:03:25.360 New Orleans is a little bit more dangerous, I think, you know, and better.

00:03:30.000 Probably better food, to be honest.

00:03:31.460 Okay.

00:03:31.900 I think you have to have crime to have good food.

00:03:34.680 That's kind of how I feel.

00:03:35.820 That's.

00:03:36.040 I've never heard the M.O.

00:03:37.100 Really?

00:03:37.460 Yeah.

00:03:37.760 That's interesting.

00:03:38.580 Oh.

00:03:38.920 You ever had.

00:03:39.240 You ever had that.

00:03:40.900 That Yakum in New Orleans. 1.00

00:03:42.760 That Yakum. 0.69

00:03:43.960 Is it.

00:03:44.320 It's not a drug.

00:03:45.500 Is it.

00:03:45.700 No, no, no.

00:03:46.120 Okay.

00:03:47.080 Because I've had that.

00:03:47.920 You've never had Yakum?

00:03:48.600 I haven't had.

00:03:49.320 I haven't had the edible version.

00:03:50.700 No.

00:03:50.860 No, no.

00:03:51.140 Oh, this thing.

00:03:52.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:53.180 Exactly.

00:03:53.600 Oh, this Vietnamese food.

00:03:55.860 I don't think so.

00:03:56.640 I was watching top five, like, top five New Orleans street foods.

00:04:01.760 Yakum, homie. 0.98

00:04:02.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:03.620 Wow.

00:04:04.440 That's a deep cut right there.

00:04:05.580 It is a very deep cut.

00:04:07.000 I thought it came in a small baggie.

00:04:08.960 Yeah, I haven't had this, bro.

00:04:10.260 I have not had this.

00:04:11.900 But, you know, New Orleans has one of the largest Vietnamese populations.

00:04:15.280 Really?

00:04:15.540 In the country?

00:04:16.100 Yeah.

00:04:16.180 I did not know that.

00:04:16.540 I've never been to NOLA.

00:04:17.500 I think so.

00:04:17.980 You haven't?

00:04:18.440 Never.

00:04:18.980 Oh, man.

00:04:19.420 And a lot of stuff shoots there.

00:04:20.560 For some reason, I just haven't been there before.

00:04:22.360 Or, yeah.

00:04:24.300 It's mythical.

00:04:25.140 You know, Nashville reminded me of Austin a little bit.

00:04:26.760 You know, 6th Street.

00:04:27.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:28.120 That promenade a little bit.

00:04:29.300 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:04:29.920 Sort of, yeah.

00:04:30.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:30.920 That Broadway, that area.

00:04:31.940 That area is really interesting down there.

00:04:34.240 What else about Nashville that I really like?

00:04:37.220 You go to the soccer games ever?

00:04:38.180 Nashville SC?

00:04:39.200 I haven't been to that.

00:04:40.020 I go to watch Lipscomb College.

00:04:41.260 They play soccer there.

00:04:42.300 What?

00:04:42.740 At Lipscomb College.

00:04:44.400 No way.

00:04:44.820 It's a college.

00:04:45.900 And they have soccer.

00:04:47.480 And so I'll go watch some of their games.

00:04:48.820 What's their student body population?

00:04:50.280 It's a good question.

00:04:51.000 Pull it up.

00:04:51.300 Lipscomb College.

00:04:52.200 Let's see.

00:04:53.700 It's one of those colleges that right next to it has the high school also.

00:04:56.680 And then the children's school or whatever.

00:04:59.360 So it's like you can go there from K to senior year of college.

00:05:02.400 Yeah, you could go from K to 40.

00:05:04.760 4,800 students.

00:05:06.380 Okay.

00:05:07.180 But their soccer team has been ranked in the top 25 the past few years.

00:05:11.300 So you love your diehard season ticket holder.

00:05:15.380 You're there all the time.

00:05:16.900 Sometimes I'll text my neighbor who's the coach.

00:05:18.660 You're like, hey, you might have popped by.

00:05:19.720 You might have popped by and they're cool.

00:05:21.080 And he'll be on the field.

00:05:21.920 He'll be like, yeah, sure, pull up.

00:05:22.960 Do you get like the McConaughey UT pass?

00:05:24.880 You can go wherever you want?

00:05:26.340 There's not a lot of bleachers.

00:05:28.060 So you're basically on the field all the time.

00:05:30.180 Yeah.

00:05:30.580 I was amazed.

00:05:31.280 I was at that UT Georgia game.

00:05:33.000 McConaughey gets full license.

00:05:35.500 Yeah.

00:05:35.760 He can do whatever he wants.

00:05:37.000 Because I already had a field pass.

00:05:38.200 I thought I was pretty, you know, high level in some way.

00:05:42.260 He's like with the coach.

00:05:43.580 He's calling plays.

00:05:44.760 He's coaching.

00:05:45.540 He's taping a guy up.

00:05:46.720 He's taping a guy up.

00:05:47.560 He's like, you're going to be all right.

00:05:48.660 He's living the experience.

00:05:49.940 You know, I got a buddy who's on the Nashville soccer team.

00:05:52.140 His name's Alex Mule.

00:05:53.220 Oh, really?

00:05:53.640 Let's pull him up.

00:05:54.500 Let's give him some shine.

00:05:55.500 Because I need to go watch him.

00:05:56.860 You think if I hit him up, he would invite him to a game?

00:05:58.560 Absolutely.

00:05:59.040 And the games are often sold out.

00:06:00.960 But, you know, I grew up with this guy.

00:06:03.480 Alex Mule.

00:06:04.180 Yeah.

00:06:04.400 But he was always M-U-Y-L. 1.00

00:06:07.120 That's the bane of his life, man.

00:06:09.000 Poor guy.

00:06:09.280 Oh, yeah.

00:06:09.640 People that can't spell Mule.

00:06:10.800 Yeah.

00:06:10.980 This is amazing, man.

00:06:11.940 I wish this is like, this is what AI is going to be in 20 years.

00:06:14.360 Just say it and it pops up.

00:06:16.060 Oh, as we're talking, the computer follows.

00:06:18.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:18.340 Oh, yeah.

00:06:18.840 Oh, yeah.

00:06:19.520 I never thought about that.

00:06:20.680 Have you tried, do you use the...

00:06:23.500 VR?

00:06:24.040 The Vision?

00:06:24.960 Oculus?

00:06:25.380 That kind of thing?

00:06:25.820 No, no, no.

00:06:26.120 The, well, Oculus 2, I guess, but the AirPod.

00:06:28.480 What do you mean, like Blue Blockers or something? 1.00

00:06:30.140 The Vision Pro.

00:06:31.340 Vision Pro?

00:06:32.060 What is it?

00:06:32.600 The Apple helmet.

00:06:34.340 But tell me about Mule.

00:06:35.380 I just want to...

00:06:35.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:36.120 My bad.

00:06:36.480 So you played ball with him growing up?

00:06:38.080 I played ball with him growing up and he was just gifted, you know.

00:06:41.500 It's tough.

00:06:42.160 You know, you could play like, it's like that Last Dance Chicago Bulls documentary.

00:06:45.420 Some of those guys will be partying all night and then they'll, like Dennis Rodman

00:06:48.820 will drop 40, you know.

00:06:49.700 It's like, I could work my ass off.

00:06:51.960 And if you don't have the gift of physical talent, of athleticism, you're cooked.

00:06:55.140 Yeah, you're done, dude. 1.00

00:06:56.540 Yeah, some people got that damn, you got a damn foot Mozart out there. 1.00

00:06:59.460 I don't have that. 1.00

00:06:59.980 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:00.560 Alex Mule is a foot Mozart.

00:07:01.780 Really?

00:07:02.120 Yes.

00:07:02.560 Oh, that's fire.

00:07:03.380 Yeah, I gotta go check him out, man.

00:07:04.840 I haven't been to see a game.

00:07:06.020 It's unfortunate.

00:07:06.940 I did get to go see Vanderbilt, which is the college that's, that's the SEC college

00:07:12.460 that's actually in Nashville.

00:07:13.620 That's what I visited, yeah.

00:07:14.760 I was at Vanderbilt.

00:07:15.500 Oh, yeah, I saw a video of you out there.

00:07:17.900 You know, I never had that American college experience.

00:07:20.200 You know, I went to Combier for a second, I went to NYU, so I'm jealous of that.

00:07:23.320 But Vanderbilt, respect to Vanderbilt, it didn't feel like UT or, it didn't feel like it had

00:07:28.500 a huge campus or a huge...

00:07:29.640 No, it's a smaller, it's a smaller energy.

00:07:31.360 Yeah.

00:07:31.820 But we went to one game this year, they played Alabama and they beat, they upset Alabama.

00:07:35.760 So that was huge.

00:07:36.620 It was crazy.

00:07:37.700 Because usually their football program's not that good, right?

00:07:39.300 It's not.

00:07:39.720 Yeah.

00:07:40.040 And they know that.

00:07:40.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:41.380 So yeah, it's on a secret.

00:07:42.740 No, no, you gotta keep keeping their place.

00:07:44.780 But that was the game they won and look, they didn't even, it was like all these lawyers and

00:07:47.980 attorneys like tearing down the goalposts. 1.00

00:07:49.760 They even had, they had a, there we are after the game, we actually, we...

00:07:54.000 Is it a big law program?

00:07:55.680 Carl Lee is their coach and he's an awesome guy.

00:07:59.640 I mean, he's a class act.

00:08:00.660 He just gets smoked here.

00:08:01.240 Oh, we got to, yeah.

00:08:02.520 Oh, there you are.

00:08:03.520 Dude, what are you doing on the field, dude?

00:08:04.960 Took a while, took a while.

00:08:05.700 Dude, what are you doing on the field, dude?

00:08:07.520 You almost ran that person over.

00:08:09.520 Hey, bro.

00:08:10.500 That's amazing.

00:08:11.320 Put on a helmet, girl. 1.00

00:08:12.520 That was a girl that should not have been.

00:08:14.140 Yeah, yeah, you almost ran her over.

00:08:15.840 Yeah, she shouldn't be playing wide out, you know?

00:08:17.820 It's just different, but no, it's a, what's it like there?

00:08:21.620 It's a, oh, after the game, so they had like engineers like, how should we take this down?

00:08:26.520 And then there's just drunk kids like, just rip it down.

00:08:28.960 Yeah.

00:08:29.240 And then they carried it down Broadway, which is like the street you were talking about,

00:08:32.700 the goalposts, because they'd never had it happen.

00:08:34.340 Those kids had never broken a law in their life.

00:08:35.640 Yeah.

00:08:36.000 They even tried to valet park the goalposts at like a restaurant.

00:08:39.300 Yeah.

00:08:39.500 Is it a fancy, like an expensive, fancy type school?

00:08:42.200 I mean, I don't think it's a lot of, it's a lot of kids that have never played probably dice

00:08:46.060 in an alley, I would say that.

00:08:48.240 So I would say it's, you know, probably pretty decent, you know?

00:08:51.220 Man.

00:08:51.840 That's pretty crazy, huh?

00:08:52.960 But it's a, it is a really cool, it's a cool program, man.

00:08:55.640 I feel like I could see three stadiums for my hotel.

00:08:57.380 I feel like I could see the Vanderbilt one, the Tennessee Titans one, and Nissan Stadium.

00:09:01.780 Shout out Nissan.

00:09:02.700 Yeah.

00:09:03.360 Is Nissan a big Tennessee car manufacturer?

00:09:05.380 That's a good question.

00:09:06.320 I don't think so.

00:09:07.100 It sounds, uh, Nissan.

00:09:09.620 It's Japan, Japanese. 0.92

00:09:10.920 It's Japanese.

00:09:11.880 Huh.

00:09:12.280 Huh.

00:09:13.640 Interesting.

00:09:14.000 Dude, thanks for coming in, Timothy.

00:09:15.720 I appreciate it, man.

00:09:16.520 Man, thank you.

00:09:17.340 You know, um, I, uh, not with the shameless plug, but I got this movie, A Complete Unknown,

00:09:23.640 coming out on Christmas Day.

00:09:24.680 Yeah.

00:09:24.940 Did you actually see it?

00:09:25.700 Yeah.

00:09:26.140 Fantastic, man.

00:09:26.640 So I'm excited that we can actually talk about it.

00:09:28.360 And I was, uh, very much in the time period of the movie the whole time and trying to

00:09:31.960 stay without being a dick, you know, within the bounds of the character. 0.63

00:09:35.680 But somebody in the hair and makeup trailer at the end of the day, they would play this

00:09:38.020 podcast, you know, which is how I discovered it.

00:09:39.720 And, uh, particularly the, uh, the episodes of the Garbage Man and sort of like the real

00:09:44.520 life episodes, the Lunch Lady, the Coroner.

00:09:47.040 Wayne.

00:09:47.480 Yeah. 0.90

00:09:47.680 Wayne, the Garbage Man.

00:09:48.980 He's doing good.

00:09:50.040 Those were, those were like awesome episodes, you know?

00:09:53.040 Thanks, man.

00:09:53.220 And sort of like worldviews that I wouldn't get otherwise, you know?

00:09:56.260 Yeah.

00:09:56.680 And, uh.

00:09:57.600 And you're from New York, right?

00:09:58.460 And I'm from New York, so Garbage Man, he, he totally recontextualized that for me.

00:10:01.620 Bro, he did a great job.

00:10:02.480 Yeah.

00:10:02.580 Because they used to have, um, they used to have.

00:10:04.820 I used to hate them, you know?

00:10:05.960 Yeah.

00:10:06.900 Yeah, because you'd think they're taking their time.

00:10:08.820 Oh, yeah.

00:10:10.060 Oh, yeah.

00:10:10.700 And I realized how tough that job is.

00:10:12.320 I mean, he was like throwing, throwing dogs in the back of the, I mean, that story is,

00:10:16.020 do you remember that?

00:10:16.640 There's a lot of, yeah, a lot of, a lot of, yeah, missing, formerly living things started

00:10:23.040 to disappear.

00:10:23.540 Yeah, in the back of the, back of the, whatever.

00:10:25.900 Well, they used to have incinerators in the buildings.

00:10:28.220 That's what was craziest.

00:10:28.960 Right, right, right.

00:10:29.460 So that, that people would put their trash, it would hit the incinerator, and then they

00:10:33.040 would just have, I mean, this is like 60 or 70 years ago, I think, but they would just

00:10:36.300 have, um, soot in barrels, you know, or in, uh, cans on the side of the street.

00:10:40.940 And then they started getting bags, but he said, yeah, there's been times where a lot

00:10:43.940 of things have shown up.

00:10:44.760 But thank you, man, for checking it out.

00:10:46.280 Yeah.

00:10:46.580 Or just hearing it on accident.

00:10:47.680 No, hearing it on accident and loving it.

00:10:49.160 And, um, and I'm so happy you saw this movie and this is like, um, you know, I hope this

00:10:53.580 doesn't like a shameless self plug.

00:10:54.820 No, it's not at all.

00:10:55.600 Yeah.

00:10:55.900 Look, man, we're happy that you're here and it's interesting.

00:10:58.720 Yeah.

00:10:58.820 I appreciate it.

00:10:59.240 And you get to do a biopic or biopic.

00:11:01.520 How do I say it?

00:11:01.860 I still don't know, man.

00:11:02.820 Biopic sounds like a medical procedure. 0.93

00:11:05.120 Yeah.

00:11:06.380 You know, that sounds like someone, you know, is inspecting your lungs to see if you played

00:11:09.980 the role the right way.

00:11:11.840 I like biopic.

00:11:12.660 Biopic sounds fancier. 1.00

00:11:13.740 Yeah.

00:11:13.900 Biopic does sound fancy.

00:11:14.940 I think that's true.

00:11:15.660 Yeah.

00:11:15.780 Biopic.

00:11:17.120 Um, was it like, so let me think about a question like that.

00:11:19.980 Just so people know, this is about a four or five year period in Bob Dylan's life.

00:11:24.600 This is a period, yeah, four or five year period in the early Bob Dylan's life.

00:11:28.200 And I'm sure a lot of people listening to your program are already fans of Bob Dylan's,

00:11:31.340 but I'm sure a lot aren't because to my generation, you know.

00:11:33.720 Yeah.

00:11:33.840 People, some people don't know.

00:11:34.720 So I don't know.

00:11:35.200 And he's really one of the most fantastic American artists of all time and has influenced

00:11:40.040 our culture in so many deep ways.

00:11:41.800 And it's just, you know, I grew up on, on Kid Cudi and hip hop and that was really my,

00:11:47.220 you know, my, my, my passion.

00:11:49.260 And then somewhere in my twenties, because this movie I was working on, I became obsessed

00:11:54.040 with this, this man, Bob Dylan, who's absolutely, I could just speak about him endlessly.

00:11:58.960 And, you know, I would love if people saw this movie and even if they got a passing interest,

00:12:04.880 discover the world of Bob Dylan, I feel like we get to be a bridge or a gateway to this,

00:12:08.400 to this guy.

00:12:09.700 And, uh, I hope this isn't one of your episodes where you got like someone, you know, like

00:12:14.280 one of the ones people skip because it's like a, a person plugging.

00:12:17.120 So, you know what I'm saying?

00:12:17.860 Like a, like a, I don't want to use that word celebrity, but like, you know, because

00:12:21.740 my favorite episodes of yours are, Oh, like a fancy, like a fancier person, hypothetically

00:12:25.260 fancier.

00:12:25.900 No, I don't mean it like that, but just like, I like, like I said, I like the ones that

00:12:29.200 are off the cuff.

00:12:29.240 Yeah, we don't have like a lot of celebrities on, really.

00:12:31.220 You know what I'm saying?

00:12:31.500 Yeah.

00:12:31.600 I never really used that word, but, um.

00:12:33.080 No, that's okay.

00:12:33.740 Yeah.

00:12:34.160 No, no, I don't think so.

00:12:35.320 Look, man, I think.

00:12:36.720 I feel like this part of the job is that though.

00:12:38.440 Cause when I, when I'm working, I'm really very much in it, you know what I mean?

00:12:41.200 And then here, anyway.

00:12:43.160 Yeah.

00:12:43.360 Actors get kind of a weird rap though, because then they also have to be celebrities in some

00:12:47.460 way.

00:12:47.980 Yeah.

00:12:48.220 In some way.

00:12:48.960 And, uh, well, well, well, if you want to, if you want to get your movie out, you, there's,

00:12:54.540 there's only a limit of how pretentious in some way, you know, whatever, you know, I want,

00:13:00.180 I want this, especially this movie.

00:13:01.560 I believe in this movie and I believe in this man.

00:13:03.720 He's a tremendous artist.

00:13:04.860 So I want to, I want to, you know, get it out there.

00:13:09.380 Yeah.

00:13:09.800 Yeah.

00:13:10.000 No, I don't think that's, man.

00:13:11.160 I think that like you did the movie with the young man with drug addiction with Steve

00:13:15.940 Carell's son.

00:13:16.660 Oh yeah.

00:13:16.680 Beautiful boy.

00:13:17.240 Yeah.

00:13:17.340 Which was awesome, man.

00:13:18.380 Yeah.

00:13:18.540 I know you struggle.

00:13:19.500 Yeah.

00:13:19.900 I know you struggle with that a little bit.

00:13:21.080 Yeah.

00:13:21.280 Yeah, man.

00:13:21.840 Yeah.

00:13:21.980 And so many people have, and it's like, um, so I don't think there's any doubt in people's

00:13:26.980 mind about your ability to, um, be a bridge between whether it be a story, you know, a

00:13:34.380 story or a person to, uh, a new generation or to, um, uh, new listeners or, or people

00:13:42.860 kind of imbibing it.

00:13:43.840 And I appreciate you bringing up beautiful boy.

00:13:45.020 And I feel like you're doing the exact same thing, not to just blow smoke up each other's 0.99

00:13:47.680 ass, but I feel like when you, oh, we're a couple of naughty native Americans right here. 1.00

00:13:51.680 Come on. 1.00

00:13:51.960 Come on.

00:13:52.600 Yeah.

00:13:53.380 Yeah.

00:13:53.820 Yeah.

00:13:54.240 Oh yeah.

00:13:54.760 If you're not, if you're listening to this and not watching this, that we're fully the

00:13:57.820 bottom half of our bodies.

00:13:58.760 We're out here booth and it's getting spicy out here.

00:14:01.440 I don't even know what that means.

00:14:01.940 Okay.

00:14:02.220 I don't either.

00:14:02.760 I don't even know what that means.

00:14:03.720 Take that out.

00:14:04.480 But, um, no, no, but, uh, but, uh, cause I know you speak on it too and you probably

00:14:08.440 empower people, you know, that, uh, otherwise would be, um, doing some naughty stuff.

00:14:14.300 Yeah.

00:14:14.400 People want to hear us.

00:14:15.140 People want to see it.

00:14:16.040 People want to see like a little bit of a journey that they can relate to or hear about it.

00:14:18.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:14:19.820 Um, what, so about the character, like, so Bob Dylan has like such a famous, cause yeah,

00:14:24.580 a lot of younger generation might not know about him, you know?

00:14:26.960 Yeah.

00:14:27.280 And, um, a, a lot of, um, he has such like a, uh, uh, um, that's a good Bob Dylan, man.

00:14:34.440 Was it?

00:14:34.780 Yeah, that was good.

00:14:35.380 How did you do when you first decided, cause I'm sure you had to practice it in your room

00:14:38.820 or something like, tell me about the first time.

00:14:41.040 That was super gradual.

00:14:41.760 Can't do it with people that are fans.

00:14:42.840 Cause people that are fans of Bob Dylan will go, they'll all tell you got it wrong.

00:14:46.340 That's the trouble with playing someone so famous and beloved.

00:14:48.300 And everyone's got an opinion about him.

00:14:49.880 Yeah.

00:14:50.320 So you gotta put the blinders on and just kind of do it around people that, um, you know,

00:14:55.360 look, man, I'm usually not that prick actor who's like obliging his friends or whatever

00:14:58.820 to listen to the, the character he's working on it.

00:15:01.540 But this is the one time I did that.

00:15:03.820 Oh, I think you have to do that.

00:15:04.900 Yeah, I had to do it, man.

00:15:05.620 Cause yeah, you don't want to get out there and do a bad job of it.

00:15:08.080 Exactly, man.

00:15:08.760 This, this would have been blasphemous. 0.98

00:15:10.140 I would have gotten killed. 0.96

00:15:12.220 I mean, I could still get killed.

00:15:13.820 Yeah.

00:15:14.020 But now it seems like, you know, we're getting a little bit of, get a little bit of love.

00:15:17.380 You know what I'm saying?

00:15:17.920 You might be back.

00:15:18.980 A little bit of that.

00:15:19.560 Hey, snipers down, lay down, snipers.

00:15:21.740 Yeah.

00:15:22.700 Um, but was there a moment where you tried that, where you actually tried it?

00:15:26.080 Yes.

00:15:26.420 Very gradually.

00:15:27.620 Um, I, I, I had to, there's a great dialect coach named Tim Monick.

00:15:31.280 You know, you can work with people that are like experts in this field and they'll tell

00:15:33.840 you how to go about it.

00:15:35.180 He, this man, Tim Monick invented dialect coaching.

00:15:37.640 He came up with it.

00:15:38.440 Tim Monick.

00:15:39.060 Let's bring him up.

00:15:39.580 Tim Monick.

00:15:39.600 T-I-M-M-O-N-I-C-H. 1.00

00:15:42.180 He's worked with Leonardo DiCaprio.

00:15:44.020 He's worked with everyone, you know.

00:15:45.440 Oh, so he's a famous, um.

00:15:47.200 Dialect coach.

00:15:47.800 Man, I've never looked him up before.

00:15:50.260 Yeah.

00:15:50.560 Tim Monick.

00:15:51.300 There he is right there.

00:15:52.120 Okay.

00:15:52.440 Is that the man?

00:15:53.100 Yeah.

00:15:53.360 There I, there I am with him.

00:15:54.600 I got in trouble anyway.

00:15:56.400 Oh, you did?

00:15:56.860 What happened to you?

00:15:57.460 I got in trouble because the strike had just hit and I was just hanging out with him and,

00:16:00.580 and, uh, I didn't really get in trouble.

00:16:01.740 But people, people, uh, people thought I was, people thought I was a scab and I was working

00:16:05.280 with him.

00:16:05.780 Oh, yeah.

00:16:06.280 But, um, he's a.

00:16:07.660 Crossing lisp lines or whatever.

00:16:09.100 You're right, dude.

00:16:11.720 You're right.

00:16:12.980 You're right.

00:16:13.540 That's crazy.

00:16:14.640 That's the only union where you'd be crossing the picket line by working on your tongue.

00:16:19.380 Yeah, that's crazy. 1.00

00:16:20.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:16:20.460 No, I'm stupid. 1.00

00:16:21.020 It was a real thing, dude. 1.00

00:16:22.180 Oh, yeah.

00:16:22.720 Really?

00:16:23.500 Scab.

00:16:23.900 Stop working on the accent. 0.88

00:16:25.080 How dare you learn Spanish?

00:16:26.480 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:27.300 That's crazy.

00:16:29.120 Wow.

00:16:29.700 Man, next time I'll call you.

00:16:30.780 Because actually when you put it like that, it's like, what are you supposed to do?

00:16:33.980 You know?

00:16:34.260 Like, and I wasn't working with him.

00:16:35.840 I was hanging out, you know? 0.93

00:16:37.160 We went to a shitty, uh, super shitty, um, it's bleak, man. 0.65

00:16:41.080 Like, the way Bob Dylan, when he came up, there was like all these cafes in downtown 0.94

00:16:43.900 New York and the music.

00:16:45.100 And now I went, I was trying to find the folk scene in modern day Manhattan.

00:16:47.620 It was brutal.

00:16:48.480 Oh, I think in Manhattan probably, maybe like in the, somewhere in the village probably,

00:16:51.580 right?

00:16:51.920 Yeah, but it was brutal.

00:16:52.720 I mean, I went to, I went to Cafe Wa where Bob Dylan came up and, uh, it's just like

00:16:56.560 Aerosmith covers now.

00:16:57.700 Oh, so some guy goes, Dreamo!

00:17:00.520 And you're like, oh man, this is not how it was.

00:17:04.000 It's just a, it has like a small Aeropostale in the back, kind of.

00:17:06.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:07.980 Exactly.

00:17:08.600 Yeah, that's kind of a bummer.

00:17:10.000 Um, did you have to meet Bob to get into this?

00:17:12.060 I never got the chance to meet him.

00:17:13.260 Not yet at all.

00:17:13.860 Oh, he's super reclusive.

00:17:14.940 Yeah.

00:17:15.300 He's elusive.

00:17:16.360 Oh yeah.

00:17:16.900 He's that reclusive?

00:17:17.300 Yeah.

00:17:17.460 We had, I don't know if I'll ever see the movie.

00:17:18.800 Yeah.

00:17:19.340 He's a, he did this, uh, X post.

00:17:21.280 I've been taught to say it's not tweet anymore, I guess. 0.99

00:17:23.380 Fucking X post. 0.98

00:17:24.440 But, uh, that he did it like three days ago, you know? 0.99

00:17:27.700 Um, uh, that was more than the, he, he, uh.

00:17:31.180 There's a movie about me opening soon called A Complete Unknown.

00:17:34.320 Um, Timothy Chalamet is starring in the lead role.

00:17:37.080 Timothy's a brilliant, Timmy is a brilliant actor.

00:17:40.440 I kind of respect it though.

00:17:41.700 Nice.

00:17:42.540 Honoring your youth.

00:17:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:45.060 Timmy's my 12 year old expression, dude.

00:17:48.060 Timmy's a brilliant actor.

00:17:49.280 I'm sure he's going to be a completely believable as me or a younger me or some other me.

00:17:53.260 The film's taken from Elijah Wald's Dylan Goes Electric, a book that came out in 2015.

00:17:58.340 It's a fantastic retelling of events from the early 60s that led up to the fiasco at Newport.

00:18:03.280 After you've seen the movie, read the book.

00:18:04.780 Oh, that's nice.

00:18:05.620 Super sweet.

00:18:07.080 And then.

00:18:07.540 So do you even talk to him on the phone or anything yet?

00:18:09.280 No, nothing.

00:18:09.860 I never got the chance to talk to him.

00:18:11.200 Yeah.

00:18:11.340 I like that you point out to Timmy.

00:18:12.180 I tried, you know, when I was 19, 20, I was, you know, I was evolving into Timothy.

00:18:17.200 You said you said some letters.

00:18:18.640 Exactly.

00:18:19.080 Shed some, no, add some letters.

00:18:20.620 Add some letters from Timmy to Timothy.

00:18:22.080 Yeah.

00:18:22.180 I thought you were going Tim.

00:18:23.300 Sorry.

00:18:23.720 Tim would be, you know.

00:18:24.540 You're going Timothy.

00:18:25.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:26.160 Tim, like I said.

00:18:26.720 Oh, she went from Timmy to Timothy.

00:18:27.460 Yeah, 40s, 50s, couple ex-wives. 1.00

00:18:29.300 Then you go Tim.

00:18:29.980 Then you go Tim.

00:18:31.380 You know, I'm like, you know, like mowing my lawn all day.

00:18:37.080 Yeah, hey, Tim.

00:18:38.180 Exactly.

00:18:38.700 Missed a spot.

00:18:39.540 Missed a spot.

00:18:40.340 Yeah.

00:18:40.720 You know.

00:18:41.240 You're like, oh, there's a bird's nest there.

00:18:42.720 Calm down.

00:18:43.920 Sort of a disgruntled expression on my face watching my kids' sports games.

00:18:47.540 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:47.860 Because they're not playing to the level that I was.

00:18:49.960 At a swim meet, too.

00:18:51.080 At a swim meet.

00:18:51.720 At a swim meet.

00:18:51.740 At a swim meet.

00:18:52.100 At a swim meet's the worst because you can't even talk to the person next to you because

00:18:54.200 it echoes so much in the room.

00:18:55.480 I've never been to a swim meet in my life.

00:18:57.020 Even if you whisper a little, the people hear it.

00:18:59.380 It travels.

00:18:59.640 Yeah.

00:18:59.940 It travels.

00:19:00.920 Oh, you cannot gossip.

00:19:02.020 How many swim meets?

00:19:02.600 Do you go to Lipscomb College swim meets?

00:19:04.220 I mean, I don't go to the, I've been aside.

00:19:06.180 Yeah, be careful, dude.

00:19:07.060 Yeah, I do.

00:19:07.580 You're right.

00:19:07.980 And it is.

00:19:08.540 And I definitely watch from my car with binoculars.

00:19:10.700 So it's not too creepy.

00:19:11.880 So it's normal.

00:19:12.600 It's totally normal.

00:19:13.720 So the fact you've been doing it since your early 20s means that, you know, it's cool.

00:19:17.640 I've got a grandfather in.

00:19:18.420 Your grandfather in.

00:19:19.080 That guy's not a pedophile.

00:19:20.460 He's an artist.

00:19:22.020 He's an artist.

00:19:22.560 And this show happened, you know, this show sprouted in this period of you doing that.

00:19:27.140 So how can you fault the process?

00:19:28.620 The proof is the pudding.

00:19:29.700 Yeah.

00:19:30.060 How do you expect him not to rehearse his own life?

00:19:32.760 Um, but yeah, um, yeah, you can't, that's the thing.

00:19:36.140 You just can't gossip at a swim meet, man.

00:19:38.300 Yeah.

00:19:38.540 What are we talking about?

00:19:39.660 I don't know.

00:19:40.160 I've never been to a swim meet.

00:19:41.160 You know, that's a very non, you know, like there's four pools in New York City.

00:19:44.580 Oh yeah.

00:19:45.120 You know what I mean?

00:19:46.060 That's true.

00:19:46.460 We don't have swim meets, but we have, um, what do you guys have?

00:19:49.960 We play dice in the hallies like you were saying before.

00:19:52.080 No, I'm kidding.

00:19:52.620 But, uh, you know, I was talking about this the other day, like my high school, they wouldn't

00:19:55.440 let us out for lunch.

00:19:56.140 Would they let you out for lunch or no?

00:19:57.280 Oh yeah.

00:19:57.820 You could do whatever you wanted at lunch.

00:19:58.780 Yeah.

00:19:59.180 They didn't let us out.

00:19:59.940 I feel like my skin tone from when I went into high school, by the time I got out, I looked

00:20:03.920 sickly.

00:20:04.420 I haven't recovered.

00:20:05.000 Oh, it got very, you got kind of like, you know, very, um, anemic.

00:20:08.500 Yep.

00:20:09.060 Anemic.

00:20:09.460 I'm sure.

00:20:09.780 What else is it called?

00:20:10.320 Kind of Boo Radley-esque?

00:20:11.980 Exactly.

00:20:12.800 Exactly.

00:20:13.600 Exactly.

00:20:14.080 You know?

00:20:14.880 Yeah.

00:20:15.160 Because they should give you at least an hour in the sun.

00:20:17.080 They give it to inmates.

00:20:18.680 Yeah.

00:20:19.140 And just because I'm learning social studies, I don't get it.

00:20:21.120 I don't get it.

00:20:21.660 Exactly.

00:20:22.180 And then I'd be in the basement doing, just acting all day. 0.99

00:20:24.060 Just because I'm learning fucking Voltaire. 0.98

00:20:25.620 I don't get 40 minutes in the sun. 0.99

00:20:26.800 Yeah.

00:20:26.820 I don't get 40 minutes in the sun.

00:20:27.700 Nothing.

00:20:27.780 A raisin got in the sun.

00:20:29.140 Oh, hey.

00:20:29.840 I don't.

00:20:30.300 Hey, that's a good play.

00:20:31.460 That was right there, man.

00:20:32.800 Denzel Washington, baby.

00:20:33.340 I will accept that.

00:20:34.280 I will accept that.

00:20:34.780 Denzel Washington.

00:20:35.580 Thank you very much.

00:20:35.860 I heard you're a big, um, play guy.

00:20:38.660 Really?

00:20:39.160 No.

00:20:39.640 Oh, thanks.

00:20:40.320 I was like, God, I don't want that going around.

00:20:42.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:43.480 Hey, man, that would, listen, that's the subversive.

00:20:46.040 No one would, no one would expect it.

00:20:47.560 That's, that's very low key, dude.

00:20:49.700 Um.

00:20:50.260 Is there a theater in Nashville?

00:20:51.500 Yeah.

00:20:51.800 There's gotta be.

00:20:52.520 There is a theater program.

00:20:53.580 That's a good question.

00:20:54.040 I grew up in Louisiana.

00:20:55.260 We didn't, we had some theater.

00:20:56.420 We just did like.

00:20:57.040 Did you ever do theater growing up?

00:20:58.020 Yeah, I did.

00:20:58.600 I did.

00:20:59.020 Well, it was just called Drama Club or whatever, and it was a lot of people who was, it was

00:21:02.560 a lot of people, I think, that were wanted to be actors, and then a lot of people that

00:21:05.800 just were kind of like.

00:21:06.900 The outsiders.

00:21:07.580 Yeah, outsiders.

00:21:08.340 I went to the high school.

00:21:08.960 It was the opposite.

00:21:09.520 The drama kids were the.

00:21:10.620 Oh, the cool kids.

00:21:11.380 Yeah, and the basketball kids were like.

00:21:13.560 No.

00:21:13.980 There was like four of them.

00:21:15.260 Bro, that's gotta be interesting.

00:21:16.620 Yeah.

00:21:16.760 Because a lot of people don't get that opportunity.

00:21:18.500 No, it skewed my perception of the real world, because then I got to Columbia, and I was 0.96

00:21:21.280 like, oh, shit, the value system is totally different, you know?

00:21:23.500 But actually, in a serious way, it kind of motivated me to go pursue my acting even harder, 0.93

00:21:27.940 but did you ever think about acting, or?

00:21:29.260 You're like, what's the exchange rate on this Hamlet scene I have?

00:21:31.580 No, exactly.

00:21:32.680 Exactly.

00:21:33.640 Exactly.

00:21:34.660 Yeah, I did just some stuff at school, but I would always mess it up.

00:21:37.700 Like, we did like Sherlock Holmes or something, and I was like Watson or whatever, his buddy

00:21:42.380 or whatever.

00:21:42.840 Okay, who was Sherlock?

00:21:43.760 His man crush, whatever.

00:21:45.040 And our guy was very like progressive, so we tried to make there to be like this small

00:21:49.140 like lover's scene, or just like some ambiance between Sherlock and Watson.

00:21:54.440 You didn't go for it?

00:21:55.420 I don't know if I went bored or not.

00:21:56.660 I was like 13.

00:21:57.780 You gotta go out there, man.

00:21:58.500 You gotta be bold.

00:21:59.520 You gotta be bold.

00:22:00.020 You would have earned the respect of all your classmates.

00:22:01.560 Or actually, I don't know where you're from.

00:22:02.600 Maybe.

00:22:03.080 Who knows?

00:22:03.600 Who knows?

00:22:03.860 We're gonna go either way.

00:22:05.180 But yeah, there was this definitely kind of romantic where they're looking for the

00:22:09.500 clues, and they end up kind of finding each other.

00:22:11.360 That's what the guy said, and I was like, this seems like insane.

00:22:14.300 But you didn't do it?

00:22:15.280 I tried my best.

00:22:16.320 But then I remember, the first night I got out there on stage, I took on this Latino 1.00

00:22:19.860 accent for some reason.

00:22:21.220 That's a strong choice, man.

00:22:22.220 It's all about strong choices.

00:22:22.520 And nobody knew it was coming.

00:22:23.980 Perfect.

00:22:24.400 And I was like, what's up, Holmes?

00:22:25.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:26.500 And then, so yeah, that was just, and that's when I realized it was tough for me to be in

00:22:30.920 some ensemble things.

00:22:31.880 I just wanted to be by myself, you know, like that kind of thing.

00:22:34.980 Yeah, and you found this, I mean, this were for me, right?

00:22:37.120 Yeah, it's where stand-up came.

00:22:37.880 Would you do a movie if it came your way?

00:22:41.240 If I've got to make it myself, I think.

00:22:43.500 Okay, all right.

00:22:44.000 You don't want to be slotted into something.

00:22:45.560 I don't think so.

00:22:46.540 I just am super protective about myself for some reason, which may seem kind of weird.

00:22:50.320 I don't know.

00:22:50.500 For some reason, for some reason you had me on.

00:22:52.560 That was a bad choice.

00:22:53.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:55.300 No, a good choice, dude.

00:22:56.620 Yeah.

00:22:57.860 So in New York, when you were a kid, like, who was your best friend?

00:23:00.620 Best friend growing up?

00:23:04.280 Nobody, man.

00:23:04.960 I was always pursuing acting, dude.

00:23:06.300 Were you really?

00:23:06.600 I was born, I was bred at Warner Brothers Studios in a little embryo fluid.

00:23:10.480 It was just like that?

00:23:11.380 Yeah.

00:23:11.560 No, man, you know, probably Brett Goldstein, you know.

00:23:15.140 A kid in your building or something from school?

00:23:16.700 No, he was a kid on the Upper West Side, and my older sister was friends with his older

00:23:19.840 sister, Brenna.

00:23:21.660 And just, I think they still live there.

00:23:24.400 Greg and Bess, those are his parents.

00:23:26.420 And Brett, you know, that was my whole friend group.

00:23:28.220 Then they all, my whole friend group went to this school called Computer School, and then

00:23:31.220 I went to a school called Booker T. Washington, so I lost my friend group there.

00:23:34.660 But, um...

00:23:36.540 And do you have a roommate now?

00:23:37.920 No.

00:23:38.420 You don't?

00:23:38.760 Thank God, man.

00:23:39.400 That's, like, more than that.

00:23:40.380 Sorry. 0.99

00:23:40.700 No, I mean, but fucking, that's more than anything. 0.99

00:23:43.340 That's what Jezelnik says on Netflix. 0.99

00:23:44.980 He says, you really made it when you don't have a roommate anymore.

00:23:47.200 Oh, yeah.

00:23:47.680 Oh, in New York.

00:23:48.780 In life, you know?

00:23:50.200 Oh, yeah.

00:23:50.640 Yeah.

00:23:51.380 Well, yeah, I think in, well, especially in New York, because it's so expensive.

00:23:53.880 In other places, some people get a roommate because they just get maybe lonesome or whatever.

00:23:58.860 Do you have a roommate?

00:23:59.840 I don't have a roommate, you know.

00:24:00.820 I would like to get one, or I'd like to get a wife maybe this year or next year.

00:24:04.880 How do you go?

00:24:05.440 2020-wide, that's what I'm calling it, dude.

00:24:07.180 2020-wide.

00:24:07.440 How do you go about that?

00:24:08.700 I think getting out there and meeting people.

00:24:11.120 Do you have friends that you trust, that you would trust, like, to set you up?

00:24:15.620 Some, but sometimes you're shocked at who they'll set you up with.

00:24:17.800 Really?

00:24:18.220 Like, you're insulted?

00:24:19.260 I mean, you're just like, well, we must think, you think differently of me than I think of me.

00:24:24.040 How so?

00:24:24.580 Give me an example.

00:24:25.360 Just like...

00:24:26.080 No names, but...

00:24:27.100 Just somebody put me all with, like, a, you know, just a...

00:24:30.820 A woman in the head, like, you know, any way I say this, I lose here. 1.00

00:24:35.240 Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.

00:24:36.920 No upset, no upset.

00:24:37.280 Just people that there was no...

00:24:39.580 How do you do this format?

00:24:40.840 Like, you're never nervous that people are going to watch that you're talking about?

00:24:43.940 Yeah, but I just make sure that I just try and don't say anything that would be really mean about somebody.

00:24:49.000 So right there, it could have got weird.

00:24:50.200 Right, and you send...

00:24:51.520 You'll send scary people after people, you know.

00:24:53.640 Oh, well, I mean, we'll...

00:24:54.660 You'll send guys in suits outside people's eyes to make sure they don't...

00:24:57.200 There's a podcast sphere out there that things, you know, get handled or whatever.

00:25:01.140 I don't want to use that term.

00:25:02.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:02.660 That's terrifying.

00:25:03.620 It's not a...

00:25:04.120 There's no lawyer involved, I'll say that.

00:25:05.880 Right, right, right.

00:25:06.000 You're just winging it.

00:25:06.700 The Lord is our lawyer.

00:25:07.940 The Lord is your...

00:25:08.220 That's some of these people's motto.

00:25:09.560 Right, right, right, right.

00:25:10.620 So it gets...

00:25:11.200 Right, right.

00:25:11.820 It gets kind of like that.

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00:30:14.520 Do you, when you go into a role like this, do you start to think like, so a lot of younger

00:30:20.180 people will think that you're Bob Dylan.

00:30:23.680 You almost become, you almost take a piece of the person's existence in a strange way.

00:30:28.640 Does that make any sense to you?

00:30:29.420 Yeah, man.

00:30:29.820 Yes and no, you know, because I've become such a fan of his that it's not like I feel

00:30:35.240 like I'm a blemish on the legacy, but I-

00:30:37.080 No, not at all.

00:30:37.580 That's not what I mean.

00:30:38.160 No, I know.

00:30:38.700 People are going to think when they, some people are going to think you are Bob, they're

00:30:41.940 going to think that when they think of him in the future, your face will come into

00:30:45.640 there.

00:30:45.840 I'm just saying that even if I have like, you know, a healthy amount of self-respect, it's never

00:30:49.640 going to come close to who he is.

00:30:51.460 So I like the idea that I could be a bridge, but like I had a buddy that said, um, the

00:30:55.720 Johnny Cash movie, Joaquin Phoenix, who is the same director, walked the line.

00:30:59.060 He said, you know, I actually like Joaquin's versions of Johnny Cash's songs better than

00:31:02.900 Johnny Cash's songs.

00:31:03.800 But I never wanted that.

00:31:04.860 Sincerely, I don't want that to happen here because, and I wanted to protect against it

00:31:07.640 because Bob's got this raw voice.

00:31:09.200 Yeah.

00:31:09.440 He's got this like iron voice.

00:31:11.220 And, uh, I don't want, I never wanted these songs to be sort of like more gentle than his

00:31:16.420 songs, you know, and had to fight against that because the recordings we made

00:31:19.500 a lot of them were super, it's hard, man. 0.96

00:31:22.420 He was playing on a beat up guitar with shitty recorders. 0.83

00:31:24.980 He had a bronchitis in his early twenties. 0.99

00:31:26.940 His voice was all fucked up. 0.98

00:31:28.500 And, uh, and I didn't want it to be like watered down, you know, cause he very purposefully 0.99

00:31:33.120 was, he liked Jack Kerouac and Moriarty.

00:31:35.920 He, you know, a lot of the books I read say he didn't have great hygiene or stuff like

00:31:39.500 that.

00:31:39.640 So I didn't want the movie to be watered down all of a sudden.

00:31:42.060 Right.

00:31:42.420 You wanted to honor him as much as you could.

00:31:43.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:44.260 But also without being him as much like you, like, not do this Hollywood version basically.

00:31:48.840 Right.

00:31:49.300 Because he's biopics.

00:31:50.240 It's a fine line, man.

00:31:51.760 It's a, and I've never done anything like this.

00:31:52.800 I usually play a role.

00:31:53.560 Actually.

00:31:53.940 Yeah.

00:31:54.240 Wonka you did kind of.

00:31:55.100 Yeah.

00:31:55.240 Wonka.

00:31:55.600 I did it.

00:31:55.820 Yeah.

00:31:56.120 And, and, but that's maybe not real.

00:31:57.760 No, but it's, yeah.

00:31:58.860 Yeah.

00:31:59.120 Thank God.

00:31:59.520 Well, don't tell the children.

00:32:00.500 Thank God.

00:32:00.840 Thank God.

00:32:01.420 No.

00:32:01.860 But also, you know, probably have to get psychiatric help.

00:32:04.260 But, um, but, uh, no, but, and there's a certain pressure with that Wonka too.

00:32:07.980 People are like very protective of characters they love, you know, they don't want,

00:32:10.560 and there's sort of like a cynicism about Hollywood, you know, about like, why are they keep revisiting?

00:32:14.640 Um, the Wonka thing I felt was justified because it's a new story.

00:32:17.900 We weren't doing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

00:32:19.360 We were doing sort of an origin.

00:32:21.260 And, uh, by the way, I don't know if you've seen Wonka.

00:32:23.540 Have you?

00:32:24.480 Yeah.

00:32:24.800 Which one have I seen?

00:32:25.920 Um, yeah, I've seen all of them.

00:32:27.120 You watched it while you were in the car spying on the, on the, on the list.

00:32:31.260 You had it playing on the audio.

00:32:35.440 If you, first of all, if you've never seen the Wonka movie, you just listen to the audio.

00:32:38.960 That's a little bit.

00:32:39.680 That's already weird too.

00:32:40.520 It's kind of a, yeah.

00:32:41.300 Yeah.

00:32:41.580 It's interesting.

00:32:42.360 They had Stevie Wonder at the movie last night.

00:32:43.780 Oh, really?

00:32:44.480 Yeah.

00:32:45.120 Interesting bridge right there.

00:32:46.420 No, but I was saying the thing, man.

00:32:47.540 I was like.

00:32:47.840 Yeah, it is, right?

00:32:48.500 Like just, yeah.

00:32:49.340 Yeah.

00:32:49.820 Yeah.

00:32:50.100 No disrespect, but I was just like, man.

00:32:51.380 No, the godfather of surround sound, basically.

00:32:53.780 Yeah.

00:32:53.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:54.760 Yeah.

00:32:55.280 Yeah, that's what I heard.

00:32:56.020 The premiere was, uh, pretty interesting.

00:32:58.060 So, last night was your premiere.

00:32:59.280 It was premiere in LA, man.

00:33:00.340 It was great, you know.

00:33:01.860 Oh, dude, thanks for coming the day after your premiere.

00:33:03.860 Yeah, that's why I was a little late.

00:33:04.820 I apologize, man.

00:33:05.760 Were you guys up late?

00:33:06.820 We were up late, and I basically, I shot this movie Marty Supreme all the fall.

00:33:11.040 These crazy directors, you know, or crazy director Josh Saft.

00:33:13.860 You ever see Uncut Gems? 0.51

00:33:14.900 Oh, yeah.

00:33:15.360 So good.

00:33:15.720 That director.

00:33:16.240 So, it was kind of that energy, that chaotic thing.

00:33:17.840 So, it wasn't like a low energy shoot.

00:33:20.480 This was like 16 hour days for three months.

00:33:22.420 Then, I went right into this.

00:33:23.780 So, I haven't been like drinking at all.

00:33:25.960 Never, not that I ever really had a problem with it, but just, you know, because these days,

00:33:29.060 and I actually find my mind is so much sharper.

00:33:30.720 I'm amazed I haven't gotten sick through this whole, like, last couple months.

00:33:34.440 But last night, I had to have a couple drinks.

00:33:35.720 I'm kind of fried today, man.

00:33:36.900 Yeah.

00:33:37.160 I'm sorry.

00:33:37.480 My voice is a little scraggly.

00:33:38.520 No, you got to celebrate.

00:33:39.440 Did you have to get up and make a speech?

00:33:40.900 What's it like at something like that?

00:33:43.400 I, man, great question.

00:33:45.260 It's like.

00:33:46.400 Oh, here we are.

00:33:47.220 Oh, man.

00:33:48.600 I don't do, I don't do the, I call it instant nostalgia, you know?

00:33:53.260 Oh, seeing these pictures like this?

00:33:54.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:54.900 I mean.

00:33:55.400 It's kind of bizarre, isn't it?

00:33:56.500 Yeah, it's kind of bizarre, man.

00:33:57.640 This is good, because this is, I'll say this, it's a great cast and a great director, so

00:34:04.900 we all have fun.

00:34:05.440 Edward Norton, man.

00:34:06.100 Edward Norton should come on this podcast, man.

00:34:07.580 He's a legend.

00:34:08.260 Absolute legend.

00:34:08.940 Oh, yeah.

00:34:09.240 He's a super legend.

00:34:10.440 He was in the, he was in the.

00:34:12.700 You ever see Rounders? 1.00

00:34:14.020 Yeah.

00:34:14.540 You play, do you play Texas Hold'em?

00:34:16.320 Yeah, I play it sometimes.

00:34:18.640 He's good.

00:34:19.580 And that, both of the actresses were great. 0.99

00:34:21.920 The ladies in it. 0.57

00:34:22.980 Oh, and his wife was in it.

00:34:24.020 What's her name?

00:34:24.460 Uh, Eriko, Eriko.

00:34:27.020 Eriko.

00:34:27.480 Yeah.

00:34:28.120 Yeah, they got a beautiful group of ladies in there. 1.00

00:34:31.500 And men, too.

00:34:32.840 Yeah, like a Boyd Holbrook, man.

00:34:34.620 With the blue suit on.

00:34:35.740 Oh, yeah.

00:34:36.100 That's a handsome man.

00:34:36.940 Is he real handsome?

00:34:38.320 Yeah, he's a, he's a stud.

00:34:39.920 Well, dude, you're kind of a handsome dude.

00:34:41.680 Like, a lot of dudes.

00:34:42.280 You are, man.

00:34:42.780 Look at that.

00:34:43.240 People, I've seen so many people.

00:34:44.360 Calm down, brother.

00:34:45.040 I've seen so many people ape your haircut.

00:34:46.820 Really?

00:34:47.300 Yeah.

00:34:47.600 Oh, these are, yeah. 0.99

00:34:48.480 There's a lot of freaking thieves out there. 0.96

00:34:49.860 How long have you had it? 0.97

00:34:50.900 This haircut I've had for probably.

00:34:52.920 It's a little dicey today.

00:34:54.300 I've had it for probably, well, I had it as a child.

00:34:57.380 Oh, no way.

00:34:57.860 So this goes back.

00:34:58.640 Oh, yeah.

00:34:59.260 And then I tried to, like, blend in, like, whenever I moved to Hollywood and stuff, and

00:35:03.200 it didn't work for me.

00:35:04.140 And so then I tried to blend out.

00:35:05.300 Oh, so you started in L.A. before Nashville.

00:35:06.580 Yeah.

00:35:07.280 Yeah, I lived out here for 12 years.

00:35:08.560 I was doing stand-up comedy.

00:35:09.500 This is where I started doing stand-up comedy.

00:35:10.660 Oh, yeah.

00:35:11.120 Where?

00:35:11.280 The comedy store and stuff like that?

00:35:12.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:13.120 Comedy store.

00:35:13.840 It was awesome, man.

00:35:14.720 I really enjoyed it.

00:35:15.520 And a whole, like, sort of generation of comedians came out of there then, huh?

00:35:18.360 Yeah, and that was, like, yeah, all types.

00:35:21.440 They had, like, Chris D'Elia, Tom Segura.

00:35:24.180 Is that a bigger comedy base here than New York, you think?

00:35:28.000 That's a good question.

00:35:28.800 You know what's so funny?

00:35:29.780 They're totally different from each other.

00:35:31.580 And some people in one don't even know the people in the other.

00:35:34.520 Because the audience is different, you think?

00:35:36.840 It's just a total different group of people.

00:35:38.540 Like, you go there, and it's almost like it feels like you have to start all over.

00:35:41.040 It's just a total different.

00:35:42.680 Like, I'll go into a club there, and it feels like I'm walking into a club for the first time.

00:35:47.880 In New York, you don't think you get the love you get out here?

00:35:49.660 I think you'll get a lot of respect, but you just feel that way.

00:35:52.580 It's not your territory, you know?

00:35:53.920 Right, right, right, right, right.

00:35:55.140 And you want to give respect to the guys that that's their grounds that they walk on every day.

00:35:58.640 Interesting, interesting, interesting.

00:36:00.120 Because that's where they live.

00:36:01.040 Like, if somebody came out and was, like, being real flashy, but they're not in your kind of club here,

00:36:07.520 it would be the same way, I think.

00:36:08.840 Interesting.

00:36:09.360 So there's a lot of code of conduct like that.

00:36:10.580 Would you ever do Saturday Night Live?

00:36:12.280 I don't know, man.

00:36:14.640 You know, it's so funny.

00:36:15.420 I went and saw it recently.

00:36:16.880 It's crazy, right?

00:36:17.600 It's a crazy setup.

00:36:18.440 It is crazy.

00:36:18.860 You did it?

00:36:19.320 Yeah, I've done it twice.

00:36:20.140 Oh, you have, okay.

00:36:20.700 It's super dialed in, right?

00:36:21.840 I should have known that.

00:36:22.480 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:36:23.580 Oh, yeah.

00:36:23.880 I went with Chris Farley's brother.

00:36:25.200 It was the first time that he'd been back to go to SNL since his brother was on there,

00:36:30.240 since he'd went with him.

00:36:31.680 So it was pretty neat.

00:36:32.020 What was that like for him?

00:36:34.000 Dude, he told so many great stories.

00:36:36.220 I wish they'd have put him out on stage.

00:36:37.720 I was like, have him go out there.

00:36:39.800 Tell his stories.

00:36:41.060 It was just classic, man.

00:36:42.280 But I went to watch Bill Burr.

00:36:43.320 I'm a big Bill Burr fan, so I went to watch him.

00:36:45.100 Did you see the last Sandler special on Netflix?

00:36:46.880 McGee performed that night, too.

00:36:48.220 Oh, for sake.

00:36:48.660 That was dope.

00:36:49.120 Wow, yeah.

00:36:49.820 And then, there we are right there with Chris Farley's brother right there.

00:36:53.500 I thought that was McGee.

00:36:56.260 Dude, you look like you're 23, man.

00:36:58.420 No, no, dude.

00:36:59.000 It's true.

00:36:59.660 Did he take your haircut or not?

00:37:01.060 Did he take your haircut or not?

00:37:01.080 Did he take your haircut or not?

00:37:01.140 HGH, dude.

00:37:02.380 No, no, no.

00:37:03.140 I got to get some HGH.

00:37:04.920 Do you work out?

00:37:06.080 Yeah, I do work out, dude.

00:37:07.520 Yeah, I do.

00:37:08.160 God.

00:37:09.220 Yeah, I went today, I mean.

00:37:10.100 And that's what I mean.

00:37:12.400 But, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:13.740 It works out once.

00:37:18.880 What else do I want to know about this film?

00:37:21.040 So, you didn't hear anything from Bob.

00:37:22.700 What about, like, his wife or his kid or something?

00:37:24.940 No, his kids, you know, almost towards the start,

00:37:28.700 Monica, who plays Joan Baez in the movie,

00:37:30.960 she was in touch with Joan the whole time.

00:37:32.680 And I thought about reaching out to his kids.

00:37:34.120 But the thing is, when somebody gets revered like Bob at some point,

00:37:37.320 he becomes this legend, you know.

00:37:40.100 Like, people can sanitize the past, you know.

00:37:43.180 What do you mean by that when you say that, just so we know?

00:37:44.860 They could present the best version of someone, you know,

00:37:47.100 and not present their flaws.

00:37:49.120 You know, even a lot of the documentaries about Bob,

00:37:50.720 they just paint him as a genius.

00:37:51.880 There's one documentary called Don't Look Back,

00:37:53.600 the D.A. Pennebaker one, where you actually see him raw.

00:37:56.720 It just captures his behavior.

00:37:58.380 And it was sort of right before he got too famous

00:37:59.920 where he turned his back, you know, on letting himself be filmed.

00:38:02.700 And so that was, like, the biggest help for me.

00:38:04.280 And I thought about talking to his kids or his grandkids,

00:38:06.260 but actually I was at the University of Minnesota, like, three days ago.

00:38:09.720 We're doing a sort of a screening for the students there.

00:38:12.460 And then someone said, this is Milo Dillon.

00:38:14.180 This is his grandnephew.

00:38:16.880 And he looked like, kind of looked like Bob.

00:38:18.820 And he said, can we get a picture?

00:38:20.320 And then he put his finger on it.

00:38:21.440 He said, you FaZe?

00:38:23.200 And then I said, well, like the video game, he said, no, never mind.

00:38:28.300 Hmm.

00:38:28.520 So the new Dillon, so even all the Dillons are unique.

00:38:33.520 Yeah, I don't know what that means.

00:38:35.180 You FaZe, I don't know. 0.85

00:38:36.340 You FaZe with the finger like that. 0.84

00:38:37.580 I don't know.

00:38:39.180 I mean, I know FaZe Banks.

00:38:40.660 I don't know a lot of the FaZe guys.

00:38:43.000 I know that one of them gave CPR to Sketch one night or something

00:38:45.480 when he wasn't doing good.

00:38:46.620 Whoa.

00:38:47.840 But anyway, shouldn't have said that out loud.

00:38:49.940 Who's Sketch?

00:38:50.560 I don't know who's Sketch.

00:38:51.640 What's up, brother?

00:38:52.320 That guy.

00:38:53.660 Did you see him?

00:38:54.220 No.

00:38:55.040 Oh, my gosh.

00:38:56.040 Wow.

00:38:56.360 It's crazy how different worlds are so.

00:38:58.520 Yeah.

00:38:58.760 Different, dude.

00:39:01.840 Sketch him.

00:39:03.200 No.

00:39:03.820 Oh, my God.

00:39:05.200 No.

00:39:06.140 Oh, oh, yes, I have.

00:39:07.320 I have.

00:39:07.900 I have.

00:39:08.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:09.060 Is that brother?

00:39:09.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:11.120 He's been on this.

00:39:12.120 Oh, yeah, he's been on that.

00:39:12.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:13.060 He's a great bro.

00:39:13.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:14.040 He is so creative.

00:39:15.080 He has one of the most creative minds I've been around.

00:39:17.100 Yep.

00:39:17.480 Just like he has his own pentameter of making jokes and stuff.

00:39:20.060 It's pretty fascinating.

00:39:20.540 Is he stand-up?

00:39:21.640 Nope, he's not a stand-up.

00:39:22.680 I think there's this new thing that goes on now where as if somebody's, it's interesting what's

00:39:27.500 going to happen with stand-up?

00:39:28.420 Because stand-up has been this thing that people always go practice and then they go

00:39:31.260 do.

00:39:31.760 But now a lot of people build so much traction from social media.

00:39:35.020 Yeah, that they pop off like that.

00:39:36.340 Right.

00:39:36.580 So then how do you, but then how do you take that and perform it?

00:39:39.400 Is there a performance element?

00:39:40.760 Yeah, it's a whole different thing.

00:39:41.700 Yeah.

00:39:41.880 Yeah, because some people on their podcasts are grand and the stand-up is different, right?

00:39:44.860 Yeah, it's different.

00:39:45.840 Do you feel like stand-up's in a golden era?

00:39:47.140 I feel like it's like boxing.

00:39:47.840 I feel like now, I feel like Netflix kind of made it, you know, sexy again in some way.

00:39:53.980 Yeah, I think, well, the news got like very all the same, I feel like, and it got very,

00:40:00.080 a lot of people believe maybe, commandeered by advertising in a way.

00:40:05.340 Right, right, right, right, right.

00:40:06.080 Some of that happens, it's capitalism.

00:40:08.140 So I think podcasting was just this like-

00:40:11.280 Became this open format.

00:40:12.220 Yes.

00:40:12.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:13.220 Where it was like, okay.

00:40:13.980 Also, you know that you're really resonating in some way.

00:40:15.800 Yeah.

00:40:16.340 Right, because it's not dollars that, or it's not like-

00:40:18.460 Well, especially in the beginning, for the first like four or five years, you're not

00:40:20.940 really making any money.

00:40:21.800 Yeah.

00:40:21.900 So it's like, you're just doing your best.

00:40:24.320 You're just keeping it.

00:40:25.140 And then at a certain point, like, people will say, well, if you're not going to let

00:40:29.040 me say what I want, then get your advertising off of my network.

00:40:32.420 Yeah, that's a risk, man.

00:40:34.580 Yeah, kind of-

00:40:35.140 I mean, it's a risk dollars-wise, right?

00:40:36.160 Oh, it's a risk dollars-wise, yeah.

00:40:37.100 I mean, Dana White was on here one time, and one of our episodes got pulled down because

00:40:40.900 of, we had Bobby Kennedy on this, a political friend, a buddy of mine, but who also ended

00:40:48.160 up going into politics, but they didn't want to be associated with it or whatever, and

00:40:51.820 anyway, Dana was on, and he said, what, who called and said they, and we were like,

00:40:56.140 it was this-

00:40:57.920 Kellogg's.

00:40:58.580 It was a biking company or something.

00:40:59.980 No, it was like a proton or whatever it's called.

00:41:02.180 Peloton.

00:41:02.460 Peloton.

00:41:02.780 Peloton.

00:41:03.360 Interesting.

00:41:03.680 And dude, next thing you know, people all across the country were throwing Pelotons into

00:41:07.240 the Boston River, yeah.

00:41:08.520 Well, they give you heart attacks, too.

00:41:09.660 Do they really?

00:41:10.300 Oh, well, that's not going to help them.

00:41:11.460 No, no, based on that Sex and the City, you know, Mr. Biggs.

00:41:15.320 That's how he died.

00:41:15.880 I didn't see that.

00:41:16.500 You didn't see that he died on the Peloton in the episode.

00:41:18.760 He dies in the episode, and then their stock crashed, because people thought it was killing

00:41:22.720 him.

00:41:23.160 It's like, and they obviously had to sign off on that.

00:41:25.060 I guess.

00:41:25.640 That wasn't a good idea.

00:41:26.380 That's a real thing, right, Mr. Biggs, I think.

00:41:28.540 Can we see that?

00:41:29.160 Yeah, we're pulling it up.

00:41:30.320 Anyway.

00:41:31.760 Oh, there he is.

00:41:33.080 Oh, yeah.

00:41:34.280 That's what happens when you-

00:41:35.660 He married Samantha, huh?

00:41:38.200 I don't know about this show.

00:41:39.620 Yeah.

00:41:41.420 What else was I going to think about?

00:41:42.600 Oh, when you think about-

00:41:43.500 So, I just want to make sure that we get a lot about this film and what I thought that

00:41:46.860 was-

00:41:47.480 Yeah, what did you like about it?

00:41:48.200 And you don't have to like the movie, but were you-

00:41:52.600 Did you know anything about Bob Dylan before or no?

00:41:54.100 Nope.

00:41:54.820 Well, yeah, I know some of his music.

00:41:56.580 Did your parents or your mom listen to it?

00:41:58.160 Oh, yeah.

00:41:58.480 My mom listened to it.

00:41:59.840 This kid I grew up with, he would play it in his room every night.

00:42:02.940 He had the harmonic and everything.

00:42:04.000 He was a big Bob Dylan fan.

00:42:04.880 No way.

00:42:05.060 My friend Ty, who I used to live with, who, yeah, I mean, Bob Dylan was the first mumble 1.00

00:42:11.200 rapper.

00:42:11.660 I mean-

00:42:12.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:13.040 No, man, absolutely.

00:42:14.320 Yeah, whining with a backbeat.

00:42:15.640 Absolutely.

00:42:16.480 Everybody's like, you know, thinking that it was some of these other guys like Uzi Vert

00:42:21.420 or maybe Kodak Black, who's just a mumbler.

00:42:25.800 I mean, at a certain point, can we just say that?

00:42:27.300 He's great.

00:42:28.020 Yeah.

00:42:28.460 He was a mumbler. 0.95

00:42:29.020 I mean, at some point he enunciated better.

00:42:31.300 Yeah.

00:42:31.640 But definitely early on.

00:42:33.520 Yeah, it's gotten a little rocky.

00:42:34.420 I feel like it's gotten rocky recently.

00:42:35.580 Which is cool, man.

00:42:36.480 He might be going through some stuff too.

00:42:37.540 Who knows?

00:42:37.940 Sometimes it's so hard to know, you know, what people are going through.

00:42:39.740 Well, he definitely keeps it behind a screen.

00:42:42.380 We don't know what's going on.

00:42:43.260 Yeah.

00:42:43.580 I probably said more in this interview than he said his whole life.

00:42:45.560 It's mythical, probably.

00:42:46.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:47.700 That'd be great if we had a word, like-

00:42:49.400 A word counter.

00:42:50.320 For you and Kodak?

00:42:51.280 Yeah.

00:42:51.780 You're like just miles ahead of him.

00:42:53.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:54.380 Literally.

00:42:55.160 Dude, you could sneeze and be like seven words ahead of him, I feel like.

00:42:58.780 You said it.

00:42:59.520 You said it.

00:43:00.840 What about some other-

00:43:02.060 Well, I just want to think anything else about the film that was-

00:43:04.740 Was it hard to learn the music?

00:43:06.160 Did you have any issues with that?

00:43:07.700 Or how did you guys make that happen?

00:43:08.260 Not really, man.

00:43:08.780 And I had five years to work on it, so I took guitar lessons with a great-

00:43:11.660 Wait, you had five years to work on this?

00:43:12.980 Wait, because you auditioned for it over a long period of time?

00:43:15.880 Well, 2018, we're supposed to do it, summer of 2020.

00:43:18.580 Then the pandemic hit.

00:43:20.320 Then I just kept working on it, kept working on it.

00:43:22.560 I was supposed to do it, summer of 2023.

00:43:24.540 Then the strike hit, which is when I was coach-

00:43:27.240 Still getting in trouble for doing my, you know, getting rid of my lisp.

00:43:32.220 I'm just kidding.

00:43:33.080 Oh, when you were meeting with that guy?

00:43:34.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:34.620 In the dark alleys?

00:43:35.720 In the dark alleys, to work on the accent.

00:43:37.800 Yeah, to work on your, keeping your tongue down when you say certain vowels?

00:43:44.940 Down with the pellets! 1.00

00:43:46.780 Hey, man, you know.

00:43:48.160 Do you work, you know-

00:43:49.300 Years ago, I went to a voice coach.

00:43:50.640 You don't actually talk like this.

00:43:51.760 Uh-huh, yeah.

00:43:52.360 Your voice is actually super high.

00:43:54.400 When I walked in here today, Theo's voice was super high.

00:43:57.120 Walking!

00:43:57.780 Yeah, he was-

00:43:58.520 I'm a Disney character, guys, dude.

00:44:01.020 And he kept doing this weird thing where he'd rock back and forth.

00:44:04.860 Oh, boy!

00:44:06.380 So he welcomed me, and he insisted that I jump on his back and get brought in here.

00:44:12.560 And he put me on the couch.

00:44:13.500 Then he assumed the character we all know, that it's Theo Vaughn.

00:44:17.120 I actually wanted him to jump on my front, dude.

00:44:18.920 When people do frontside piggybacks, that's kind of like-

00:44:21.740 I've never heard of that in my life.

00:44:23.160 And that's when I quit-

00:44:24.200 Hey, that's when I quit playing tennis in junior high school, I'll tell you.

00:44:27.100 But listen, you gotta be strong enough to do that.

00:44:29.280 That's a good point.

00:44:30.240 I could probably do it to you.

00:44:31.940 I'm getting you out your comfort zone, man.

00:44:34.520 You could not do a frontside piggyback with me.

00:44:37.000 When we finish this, you know, I'm jumping on the front.

00:44:41.560 And anybody that can draw a picture of Timothy and me involved in frontside piggybacking,

00:44:45.920 let me know.

00:44:47.420 I'll buy it from you, and we'll donate $1,000 to a charity of your choice.

00:44:50.500 And, you know, can I F you after this?

00:44:54.560 Like a little John Cena thing?

00:44:56.340 Just for promo.

00:44:58.420 Just for promo.

00:44:59.620 It's clicks.

00:45:01.220 I'll do it on this.

00:45:02.120 Okay.

00:45:02.500 All right.

00:45:03.320 And then you land on that.

00:45:05.440 Oh, man.

00:45:05.780 You just lay somebody on this?

00:45:07.360 I'll just lay. 0.95

00:45:08.080 No, I'm going to be like that, and then I'll suplex you on that. 0.86

00:45:10.220 Oh, right through there?

00:45:10.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:11.200 Yeah, I think we should get that.

00:45:12.740 Yeah.

00:45:13.020 It's that time of year, man.

00:45:13.920 It's the holidays.

00:45:14.500 Come on, it's the holidays.

00:45:15.380 You know, this is the holidays in America in 2024.

00:45:19.360 Yeah.

00:45:19.540 Are you a big holidays guy?

00:45:20.920 You know what?

00:45:21.540 I think it does remind me a little bit to slow down, kind of.

00:45:24.960 You know, which is nice, because life gets going pretty fast a lot of times.

00:45:28.780 Do you think you're more elfish or Santa?

00:45:32.180 Oh, it's a good question.

00:45:33.820 I wish I could be a little more Santa.

00:45:37.020 I'm more of, sometimes a little more Mrs. Claus. 1.00

00:45:38.880 Like, I'll start bitching about a lot of shit. 1.00

00:45:40.760 About nothing. 1.00

00:45:41.240 Yeah.

00:45:41.760 About nothing. 1.00

00:45:42.520 I'll just get a lot of shit. 0.99

00:45:43.540 But I just got to slow down. 0.99

00:45:44.780 It's just been like a long year.

00:45:46.480 Yeah, you've been busy.

00:45:47.220 Yeah.

00:45:47.400 What are you going to do for, are you going to go away or anything?

00:45:48.680 Yeah, I'm going to go to Louisiana and see some family, and then I might try to take

00:45:51.140 a vacation for a few days.

00:45:52.360 We'll see.

00:45:52.900 A little Baton Rouge?

00:45:54.080 Yeah.

00:45:54.460 My family lives right down there.

00:45:55.680 So, what about you?

00:45:56.840 I'm going to be here, because I've been all over the place.

00:45:58.380 I'm going to New York tonight.

00:45:59.660 Then I go to London, and then do all this promo for the movie.

00:46:03.120 Oh, you saved a promo for this movie.

00:46:04.040 For how long does promo take?

00:46:04.920 Well, it's coming out on Christmas, so I'm going every day, you know?

00:46:08.000 But I love the movie. 0.99

00:46:08.700 That's why, you know, that's why, shit, man, I'm trying to go as hard as possible. 0.99

00:46:13.440 And, you know, and then fucking come back here and be with my family, be with my new 1.00

00:46:20.940 little niece. 1.00

00:46:21.800 Oh, you got a new niece?

00:46:22.440 Yeah.

00:46:22.740 First one?

00:46:23.240 First one.

00:46:23.940 Let's go, dude.

00:46:25.100 That's a crazy moment.

00:46:25.460 What's her name?

00:46:25.980 Can you bring a picture of her?

00:46:26.760 We can't show a picture of her.

00:46:27.660 I don't even think, I think my sister's kept her offline.

00:46:30.160 You know, my sister lives in a, sort of like a, she's with a group of people in like a forest

00:46:35.160 type thing in France.

00:46:36.880 No way.

00:46:37.340 Where?

00:46:37.680 Near Ancy?

00:46:38.480 Yeah, near, near Ancy, yep.

00:46:40.140 No.

00:46:40.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:41.180 In a forest, no internet. 1.00

00:46:42.980 No, I'm just fucking with you. 1.00

00:46:43.500 I'm sorry, bro. 0.99

00:46:44.280 I'm sorry.

00:46:44.800 No, I'm sorry.

00:46:45.540 No, no.

00:46:47.480 Let's check in on your sister.

00:46:49.200 You know, let's email her a meal. 0.69

00:46:51.480 Let's give her a French, French coupon, French coupon. 1.00

00:46:54.380 No, but she's, uh. 0.98

00:46:56.060 Yeah.

00:46:56.360 Norduche. 0.98

00:46:56.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:57.800 No Groupons in France, man.

00:46:59.120 No Groupons in France.

00:46:59.780 There isn't?

00:47:00.080 No Groupons and a high property tax.

00:47:02.220 They have high property tax over there?

00:47:03.400 Absolutely, man.

00:47:03.620 Because it's beautiful property.

00:47:04.680 Beautiful property and they don't want people just coming and, you know, not, you know.

00:47:08.040 Just milling around for 40 bucks a month property tax.

00:47:10.040 I'm in that age now where I'll chat GBT, like, one of the most attractive low property

00:47:15.160 tax places in America or around the world.

00:47:19.080 Oh, yeah.

00:47:19.440 One of them was my neighborhood growing up, dude.

00:47:20.620 I remember our property tax was $8 one year.

00:47:23.680 My mom paid in cash, dude, right out of her purse. 1.00

00:47:25.820 So I was like, where do we live at?

00:47:28.860 Wait, who should she give it to?

00:47:30.040 Huh?

00:47:30.320 The guy that came by.

00:47:31.480 Was it a legit guy, you think?

00:47:32.720 He looked pretty legit.

00:47:33.900 He had all of his buttons on his head.

00:47:35.780 He had a hoodie that said government.

00:47:37.480 He had a couple of them, yeah.

00:47:38.840 She just gave me eight bucks. 1.00

00:47:41.320 Oh, man.

00:47:42.320 Same thing, man.

00:47:42.900 I grew up in, like, a Mitchell-Lama.

00:47:44.020 You know about Mitchell-Lama?

00:47:45.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:45.480 The restaurant stars or whatever?

00:47:46.860 No, no, no, no, no.

00:47:47.800 Mitchell-Lama is, like, there's, like, two, to my understanding, there's two versions of,

00:47:52.160 like, good arts housing.

00:47:53.200 You got Section 8.

00:47:54.180 That means you're paying, like, under 800 bucks.

00:47:55.920 Mitchell-Lama.

00:47:57.580 Yep. 1.00

00:47:58.260 Oh, that damn Mitchell-Lama, brother. 1.00

00:48:00.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:48:00.920 Oh.

00:48:02.100 That's me, baby.

00:48:02.980 Moderate.

00:48:03.740 Mitchell-Lama program provides affordable rental and cooperative housing in moderate and middle

00:48:06.680 income families.

00:48:07.420 You're just talking about Alphabet City, basically.

00:48:09.700 Dude, wow.

00:48:10.600 So how do you know New York, man?

00:48:12.600 I like New York.

00:48:13.460 I like, I mean, yeah, it's definitely fascinating.

00:48:15.420 Do you ever live there?

00:48:16.740 No.

00:48:17.900 I've just stayed there for, like, maybe three months of the most.

00:48:20.660 I would live there.

00:48:21.840 If I get a wife and she lives there, I'll stay. 1.00

00:48:23.660 I'll go live there.

00:48:24.060 What's the ideal, you know, what does she look like both inside and out? 1.00

00:48:27.320 Um, well, she looks like, probably looks like a nice lady, I think. 1.00

00:48:33.660 Let me think about the rest of it.

00:48:36.040 Probably, maybe played volleyball, maybe didn't.

00:48:39.580 Maybe likes to be a mom, maybe. 0.99

00:48:45.240 I don't know, dude.

00:48:47.140 She's looking for a mother. 1.00

00:48:48.240 Likes to laugh, has a good sense of humor.

00:48:49.960 Okay.

00:48:50.780 Because people that laugh get jokes, usually.

00:48:52.520 Like, you can't, you know, unless you're just, something's wrong with you and there's

00:48:56.840 something, you just laugh every now and then.

00:48:58.340 Right, right.

00:48:59.060 So, like, yeah.

00:49:00.180 Could she do somersaults? 0.88

00:49:01.860 Ooh, I hope she can, but I might try to be some kind of pervert or whatever, you know,

00:49:06.460 but I wouldn't mind seeing one every now and then, especially if it's holidays or whatever 0.98

00:49:09.320 and she wants to, you know, pop off a damn bee handspring or something before everybody 1.00

00:49:13.800 cuts into some lackeys or whatever. 0.99

00:49:16.120 I'm down for it.

00:49:18.240 So, yeah, I think I'm open to a lot of different things, I think.

00:49:21.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:21.860 You know? 0.98

00:49:22.120 Yeah, and, like, handstands and shit? 0.94

00:49:23.100 But, I mean, okay, I don't know what you're trying to get here. 0.96

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00:53:44.820 So yeah, so I think, yeah, it's like, I just don't, you know, I think more will be revealed

00:53:50.460 about who the lady could be, but I'm also just being more open to it.

00:53:54.960 You know, it's like, you got to be open to that to get a wife, to be like, oh, I'm going

00:53:57.780 to get a, you know, I'm going to have a wife and be with the wife. 1.00

00:54:00.400 Yeah.

00:54:00.660 You got to be open to it, brother.

00:54:02.220 Yeah.

00:54:02.320 You got to set the, you got to set your life up.

00:54:04.100 Yeah.

00:54:04.420 And how are you going to get divorced if you don't get married? 0.99

00:54:06.700 You know what I'm saying?

00:54:07.240 Absolutely.

00:54:07.560 And those are two crucial chapters of life.

00:54:10.140 Is your, is your, is your home, you know, wifeable? 0.99

00:54:13.540 Not current, uh, is there like shit everywhere when you walk in? 0.99

00:54:18.520 No. 0.98

00:54:18.880 No, my home's organized.

00:54:19.600 I got my tree up right now.

00:54:21.040 Nice.

00:54:21.340 You got a tree.

00:54:22.040 Mm-hmm.

00:54:22.860 I got a box of gifts.

00:54:23.940 There's a lady that I don't even know who has sent me a box of Christmas ornaments for

00:54:27.380 the past four years.

00:54:28.460 Sweet.

00:54:28.920 It comes every year.

00:54:29.740 I put them up on the tree.

00:54:30.520 And it's got a little mic and a camera in there.

00:54:31.820 There's the, yeah.

00:54:32.640 I didn't know about that.

00:54:33.920 Yeah.

00:54:34.640 She's just.

00:54:35.280 Bro, that's such a good idea.

00:54:37.060 Yeah.

00:54:37.420 She's just watching you watch.

00:54:39.320 Every Christmas it's called.

00:54:40.500 It's a murder movie.

00:54:41.560 It's a murder.

00:54:42.020 Yeah.

00:54:42.140 Or it's just a movie about, it's about somebody who used to love somebody and they're watching

00:54:45.480 their family now.

00:54:46.700 And they send them this random box and the people put it on their tree they don't know.

00:54:49.760 Yeah.

00:54:50.000 And it has a camera in it.

00:54:50.760 And it has a camera in it.

00:54:51.780 Yeah.

00:54:52.180 Write it, baby.

00:54:53.420 I'm not gonna, but we did.

00:54:54.380 That's it.

00:54:54.920 What do you watch on Christmas?

00:54:56.340 Mm, I'll watch.

00:54:57.220 Like, what would the camera see you doing?

00:55:00.360 Well, we're supposed to do Christmas caroling this year with a couple fellows from the gym,

00:55:03.880 actually.

00:55:04.860 And so we're supposed to practice on Friday.

00:55:07.060 Okay.

00:55:07.860 And we just hired a cool brother over there in Nashville to help us learn some of the lyrics.

00:55:11.260 You say brothers, dude.

00:55:12.280 And then, uh.

00:55:13.000 I love you say that, man.

00:55:13.740 Oh, yeah.

00:55:14.320 We're excited about it.

00:55:15.660 There's all brothers going, so you gotta respect the culture, man.

00:55:18.720 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:19.600 Oh, man.

00:55:20.300 Or, uh.

00:55:21.420 But, yeah.

00:55:22.280 And then what are we gonna go, uh.

00:55:24.740 Oh, I watched Family Man.

00:55:25.980 Have you ever seen that one?

00:55:26.720 No, I've never seen Family Man.

00:55:28.520 With Nicolas Cage?

00:55:29.420 Nicolas Cage.

00:55:30.300 It's a great movie.

00:55:30.940 One of the greats.

00:55:31.580 Have you ever met him?

00:55:32.660 No, man.

00:55:33.180 But, uh.

00:55:33.960 Matchstick Men is one of my favorite movies ever.

00:55:35.600 Yeah.

00:55:35.900 You know.

00:55:37.000 You know.

00:55:37.700 Nicolas Cage, man.

00:55:39.300 Um.

00:55:39.640 What a life.

00:55:40.280 But, yeah.

00:55:40.600 I'd like to get a wife, maybe. 0.96

00:55:41.860 What about, uh.

00:55:42.700 There's kind of a love triangle in the movie.

00:55:44.440 Yeah.

00:55:45.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:45.460 There's, uh.

00:55:45.920 So the women's Joan Baez. 0.97

00:55:47.680 Joan Baez and Sylvie Russo.

00:55:49.640 Is Sylvie Russo, was she an artist?

00:55:51.160 I couldn't tell.

00:55:51.760 Yeah.

00:55:52.040 She's.

00:55:52.940 Her real name's Suze Rotolo in real life, but the real Bob Dylan was still very protective over her.

00:55:57.320 She was never really famous.

00:55:58.780 So that was one of his big script notes.

00:56:00.140 He said, change that name.

00:56:01.060 And, uh, you know, just, I think he felt protective over her legacy in some way.

00:56:07.060 And so he had some notes about the script.

00:56:08.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:56:09.860 The love triangle is, is sort of, uh, one of the big, you know, like we do these Q&As for the movie now.

00:56:15.820 People will say, was Bob, was his behavior towards the, the people that he was in a relationship with in his life, you know, was, it's definitely complicated.

00:56:24.680 But my answer is always, he was, he was focused on his art first and foremost.

00:56:27.720 Also, this movie's about people in their early twenties.

00:56:29.680 You don't really have life figured out, especially in relationship then.

00:56:32.240 Yeah.

00:56:32.620 That stuff is a mess at that age.

00:56:34.360 So he was kind of between the, these, these two women in the movie and Joan Baez is a musician and artist, ambitious the way Bob would have been.

00:56:42.000 And then Sylvie's really the more grounded character.

00:56:44.280 I think what Elle Fanning does in the movie is incredible. 0.99

00:56:46.100 You kind of see the movie through her eyes because she's not, she's not one of these famous musicians.

00:56:49.940 She's really just a real person and, uh, is, you know, deeply affected.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:54.320 She was very affected by Dylan and her character was.

00:56:56.920 Yeah.

00:56:57.220 That was interesting to see.

00:56:58.320 Yeah.

00:56:58.760 And the things that, well, she was, she's the only person in the movie that doesn't have a transactional relationship with him.

00:57:02.920 Right.

00:57:03.080 Really loves him for who he is.

00:57:05.300 And, uh, um, you know, that was our theory.

00:57:09.060 You know, I never talked to Bob Dylan, but I feel like that's why I think he's still fond of that relationship and private about it.

00:57:13.900 Cause if maybe the rest of his life could be confusing, I'm not, I don't want to speak for him, but confusing about like who's being genuine with me and who's not.

00:57:20.900 She was always the clear day one.

00:57:23.680 Clear candidate.

00:57:24.260 Yeah.

00:57:24.720 Wow.

00:57:25.040 That's interesting.

00:57:26.440 Yeah.

00:57:27.080 Yeah.

00:57:27.400 Yeah.

00:57:27.520 I, yeah, I found like, um, when I was watching it, yeah, you're kind of rooting.

00:57:33.460 It's weird because who you're rooting for changes almost from scene to scene in the movie.

00:57:37.680 Yeah.

00:57:38.260 You know, no one's like a great, uh, besides Elle Fanning, everyone comes off a little real.

00:57:44.260 Yeah.

00:57:44.600 Yeah.

00:57:44.760 Hopefully.

00:57:45.180 Yeah.

00:57:45.340 You know, flawed, but like in a human way, flawed in a human way and a little, especially in your early twenties, man, you're trying to figure out your life.

00:57:50.720 Oh, yeah.

00:57:51.480 Dude.

00:57:51.900 They don't even.

00:57:52.780 Yeah.

00:57:53.120 Were you a saint in your early twenties?

00:57:54.560 Dude.

00:57:55.240 No, I was, I mean, I was a saints fan.

00:57:57.520 I'm a new Orleans saints fan, but I was not, uh, I was not the, you're at the game.

00:58:02.820 I mean, I had on maybe a, you know, I might've had on a Drew Brees jersey on your 16th Miller light.

00:58:08.720 Dude.

00:58:09.220 Yeah.

00:58:09.680 That's for sure.

00:58:10.820 That was, um, but no.

00:58:13.300 Yeah.

00:58:13.460 It's like, yeah.

00:58:14.960 How do you even get, start to get things figured out?

00:58:17.660 Um, but that's one thing that I liked about it.

00:58:19.620 I like seeing the different, and I liked that there was like, okay, what's this relationship

00:58:22.700 like over here going to happen?

00:58:24.080 What's this relationship like over here going to happen?

00:58:26.180 And then just seeing like, I did get a better idea of like, oh, okay.

00:58:29.940 Bob Dylan was just kind of like affected dude that he kind of was maybe better than he thought

00:58:36.920 he was or, or he was actually so great.

00:58:40.780 And they tried to manipulate him.

00:58:42.680 It was just all so confusing, you know, like, and I think it was confusing to him.

00:58:46.340 And it was like, it was, it was, it was just a lot going on and he seemed like a unique

00:58:51.660 person and probably like a secretly sensitive guy.

00:58:54.700 And so for all those things to happen, you know, so quick to him and then for him to try

00:58:59.140 to figure it out and navigate what was real.

00:59:01.100 So I don't know.

00:59:02.360 Man, exactly.

00:59:02.960 And that's something I could relate to, not, not in the relationships necessarily in my

00:59:05.280 life, but you know, you feel like your career gets going.

00:59:07.660 I don't know how you feel about that.

00:59:08.560 And you want to protect your energy and, and, but you still want to have close, you know,

00:59:15.540 friendships and relationships.

00:59:16.440 And, but at first it's very, it's a hard thing to navigate, particularly if you want to keep

00:59:20.520 writing, you keep wanting to like Bob Dylan, you know, and like you said, he was genuinely

00:59:23.480 great at it.

00:59:24.000 He had a gift from God at that point in his career.

00:59:25.920 He said it in an Ed Bradley interview in 2004.

00:59:27.980 He's like, I feel like God was writing through me.

00:59:30.400 And he says in the interview, I can't do it anymore.

00:59:32.160 He almost says it like, like, uh, no, he misses it.

00:59:35.040 Like he misses it.

00:59:35.680 Yeah.

00:59:35.920 It's a beautiful moment in this Ed Bradley interview.

00:59:37.720 He just, uh, he says, I can't do it anymore.

00:59:40.080 I don't know how those words were coming to me.

00:59:42.140 And wow.

00:59:43.460 And I feel like musicians, even more than actors, I feel like an actor,

00:59:46.220 like into your thirties and forties and fifties, as your face ages, you can keep doing great

00:59:50.500 work and the gravitas of your life lives on your face.

00:59:54.080 You know what I mean?

00:59:55.080 Right.

00:59:55.260 And so the more you learn in life, the more abilities you're going to have.

00:59:58.640 Yeah.

00:59:58.760 And the more trauma you go through, whatever. 0.92

01:00:00.080 And I feel like as a musician, you can still do it, still do great shit, but it's really 0.98

01:00:03.140 like a young man's game, you know? 0.98

01:00:05.440 Yeah.

01:00:05.560 Cause you have to do all that touring and stuff as well.

01:00:07.320 It beats you up for you.

01:00:08.280 The movie kind of tours for you.

01:00:10.400 Exactly.

01:00:10.780 You know, I love, you know, it's funny.

01:00:12.460 We do these Q and A's.

01:00:13.420 So I get the backstage experience. 0.99

01:00:14.820 My holy shit, I'm coming out, man. 1.00

01:00:16.220 I'm like, fuck, they're going to say my name out loud. 1.00

01:00:17.580 I'm all excited. 0.99

01:00:18.040 And I come out. 0.99

01:00:19.100 And then as opposed to a rock star, I fucking sit in a chair. 0.99

01:00:22.100 Oh yeah. 0.98

01:00:22.900 And I answer much questions.

01:00:23.440 Like, watch this.

01:00:24.320 And I sit down and I try to give poised answers.

01:00:26.900 And just make sure your posture is okay the whole time.

01:00:29.300 Dude, it's humiliating.

01:00:30.840 Posture rocking in the house tonight. 1.00

01:00:32.240 That shit is so hard to deal with, dude. 1.00

01:00:33.840 Cause I'll be backstage and it's, you hear the crowd. 1.00

01:00:35.820 It's like, Timothy, Shama.

01:00:37.220 Yeah. 0.99

01:00:37.800 And then I fucking take my seat. 0.98

01:00:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:00:41.320 Yeah.

01:00:41.460 And then I'm poised.

01:00:42.040 Yeah.

01:00:42.200 You're like, let's go.

01:00:43.560 And you sit down.

01:00:44.200 And I sit down, dude.

01:00:45.220 It's humiliating.

01:00:46.440 It's like, it's very anti, uh, I don't know what the word is, but somebody else probably

01:00:51.160 knows it, but yeah, I don't know it.

01:00:52.340 But, um, yeah, dude, I, you know what though?

01:00:55.420 I think it was, I do think that it was interesting if you frame it up, like this is what it is.

01:00:59.880 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a few years in a man's life that was a very interesting

01:01:04.120 man who's probably written so many songs that some young people don't even know that he

01:01:08.020 wrote.

01:01:08.340 Yeah, exactly.

01:01:08.960 I was listening and I was like, no way he wrote that.

01:01:11.160 And like, um, just some relationships that he had with other artists that you may not

01:01:14.560 even know about.

01:01:15.580 And sort of the first guy for me in American pop culture that said, I'm going to do whatever 0.98

01:01:19.160 the fuck I want. 0.98

01:01:20.060 And that was like, yeah. 1.00

01:01:21.100 And that was like sort of blasphemous.

01:01:22.220 Like every artist through the last 30, 40, 50 years that, uh, a lot of whom you can't

01:01:27.520 shout out cause they, they've basically, they've basically burned so many bridges.

01:01:30.580 But, um, Bob Dylan was the first.

01:01:33.000 He just wouldn't take no for an answer.

01:01:34.660 He just was fired up about his art and I hope that it doesn't sound corny.

01:01:38.260 No, I don't think it sounds like anything. 0.99

01:01:39.320 Yeah, but it doesn't sound corny cause he really didn't give a fuck. 0.97

01:01:41.380 And it's, uh, that to me was really refreshing to work on. 0.96

01:01:44.700 You know, now we live in a time where it's not only, not only is it hard to be rebellious

01:01:48.300 about your art, but it's as much about the Coliseum's reaction.

01:01:51.100 You know, you think about a clip you like online or, or, uh, something you like or

01:01:54.600 don't like.

01:01:54.980 The first thing you do is you go to the comments.

01:01:56.060 It's as much about how people are reacting, you know what I'm saying?

01:01:58.620 As it is about the, the actual thing.

01:02:01.420 Um, so in some ways it's harder now, it's kind of harder now because not only do you

01:02:04.840 have to manage what you present, but do you have to manage also how, what, I don't

01:02:09.720 know what I'm saying.

01:02:10.180 No, no, but yeah, I was just trying to say, and also to avoid that, that's kind of what

01:02:14.160 I'm doing these days, man.

01:02:15.200 I'm just, you just gotta like, you have to bury your head so far, even like the pictures

01:02:18.760 from the premiere, I'm just like, you know, I just try to put the shutters on because

01:02:22.680 it's not healthy, man.

01:02:23.760 You know?

01:02:24.100 Oh, looking at all your stuff and looking at that?

01:02:25.560 Yeah, you know.

01:02:25.840 No, it's weird. 0.98

01:02:26.500 No, it's fucking weird. 0.98

01:02:27.260 And then, you know. 0.97

01:02:27.840 And you're not supposed to do it.

01:02:29.020 No, we're supposed to be, you know, like gathering nuts and berries. 0.98

01:02:33.200 No, that's not like I'm fucking. 0.90

01:02:34.120 Yeah, well, no, they had that first guy, Narcissus or whatever, looked in the river and saw 0.97

01:02:37.340 himself, you know?

01:02:38.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:02:38.520 And then he's like, hey, where are the ladies at or whatever?

01:02:41.080 And you're like, whoa, dude, what are you talking about?

01:02:42.860 What are you talking about, dude?

01:02:43.960 You're not even that good looking. 1.00

01:02:45.240 Yeah, kill a rabbit, dude. 1.00

01:02:46.600 Yeah. 0.93

01:02:47.460 Our tribe needs to eat, dude.

01:02:48.980 Make a salad, bro.

01:02:50.160 Yeah, we got, yeah.

01:02:51.080 Yeah, we got people to feed. 0.99

01:02:52.200 We have 17 people and our elder is fucking suffering. 0.99

01:02:55.420 Like you're over here like trying to start Clairol or whatever. 0.99

01:02:58.600 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

01:02:59.300 Fucking working on your, you know. 0.99

01:03:01.160 Yeah, it's like just a bunch of Dior moisturizer. 1.00

01:03:03.880 Talking about lip filler to everybody.

01:03:05.480 You're like, what are you even talking about?

01:03:07.040 Dude, it's 300 BC.

01:03:09.020 What does that even mean? 0.99

01:03:10.420 Stop working on your Raya profile and fucking help us with the fire we need to put out in 1.00

01:03:15.160 the forest, you narcissistic prick. 1.00

01:03:17.780 Yeah, dude, what are you talking about? 1.00

01:03:19.600 Yeah, I have no fucking clue. 0.99

01:03:21.400 No clue. 0.98

01:03:24.500 What about other, because you can only do so many biopics too.

01:03:28.680 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:29.360 That's kind of weird.

01:03:30.000 You kind of, you burned a biopic.

01:03:31.200 I burned a biopic, man.

01:03:31.900 Is it biopic?

01:03:32.400 We don't know.

01:03:33.380 I don't know.

01:03:33.700 I burned a biopic and I got to go back in three months and I got to check if it's still

01:03:36.540 there.

01:03:37.380 And no, you're right.

01:03:38.980 I can only do so many, especially like music ones.

01:03:40.920 I'll be honest.

01:03:41.920 What are some other ones you think?

01:03:43.220 I have a couple.

01:03:43.840 Listen, man.

01:03:44.440 Oh, ideas.

01:03:45.320 No, you go first.

01:03:45.960 Okay.

01:03:46.360 Like that I could do or you could do.

01:03:47.660 I don't know if I keep talking to people.

01:03:49.240 Why do you sit with him and just talk the whole time?

01:03:51.360 So we got to get you to say something, bro.

01:03:53.560 No, I mean, well, I'm trying to think of ones you could do.

01:03:56.320 Um, you could do, um, I don't know what I could do.

01:04:01.100 Maybe you could do a Brad Pitt biopic, you know what I'm saying?

01:04:03.940 Right there.

01:04:04.640 Come on.

01:04:04.920 Put a little sprinkle on it.

01:04:05.940 Put a little sprinkle on it.

01:04:07.120 No.

01:04:07.720 Maybe if like, uh, maybe a Brad pick like was stranded somewhere, like, you know, maybe

01:04:12.500 like a hitchhiker something.

01:04:14.880 No, but you could, um, you could do, would you ever do Mabu?

01:04:18.140 You think?

01:04:18.540 Little Mabu?

01:04:18.940 Oh my God, dude. 0.99

01:04:20.420 That is fucking funny. 0.99

01:04:21.500 That's an alternate time. 0.99

01:04:22.460 I'm him in an alternate timeline.

01:04:23.940 Oh yeah.

01:04:24.260 Yeah.

01:04:24.540 Cause you know, I used to, I used to, uh, well, you know, there's two ways you could

01:04:26.780 have gone.

01:04:27.380 That's what we like to say a lot of times.

01:04:28.840 Yeah.

01:04:29.500 That's me in an alternate timeline.

01:04:30.700 I love him, bro.

01:04:31.880 I don't know enough about him.

01:04:32.800 I know he's from New York though.

01:04:33.820 You're right.

01:04:34.080 You know, it's a great point. 0.88

01:04:34.800 I don't fucking know if I like him. 0.94

01:04:35.880 He could be a dirt ball, but I like, uh, I like some of his energy, dude. 0.99

01:04:39.180 Some of his shit is pretty high. 0.99

01:04:40.040 It's very Bob Dylan, man. 1.00

01:04:40.860 Just be who you want to be.

01:04:42.040 That's a good point.

01:04:48.940 I'm kind of like, he reminds me of like how you need Eminem was just unique in his time

01:04:53.720 period.

01:04:54.180 He just did.

01:04:54.520 I'll, maybe I'll do a little Mabu biopic.

01:04:55.820 I don't know what it's about.

01:04:56.380 I wonder what the tragedy of his life is.

01:04:57.960 That's a good point.

01:04:58.780 It could be some crypto failure.

01:05:00.480 Yeah.

01:05:00.760 He launched Mabu coin.

01:05:02.000 Oh, he's going to be so fast, dude.

01:05:03.920 Man.

01:05:04.340 Bro.

01:05:04.600 Sorry.

01:05:04.820 No, dude.

01:05:05.620 No, I don't know.

01:05:06.060 I don't know him.

01:05:06.540 I mean, he's clearly killing it.

01:05:08.160 Yeah.

01:05:08.500 If he wasn't killing it, we weren't talking, we wouldn't be talking about him.

01:05:10.120 That's a good point.

01:05:10.680 Oh, I think he's just, he's, he's definitely super entertaining.

01:05:13.880 Yeah.

01:05:14.020 And we're just joking around.

01:05:15.200 And he started that, um, conference, con, con, uh, conservation fund for the, for that,

01:05:21.200 uh, thing I was talking about.

01:05:22.640 I'm sorry.

01:05:23.380 Oh, you're good, bro.

01:05:25.540 Dude, you should be a politician.

01:05:27.320 Yeah.

01:05:27.460 You're good.

01:05:28.200 Ah, I was acting.

01:05:29.360 Um, but what are that, or maybe Abraham Lincoln's son or whatever?

01:05:33.120 I could be Abraham Lincoln, me or you.

01:05:34.880 You.

01:05:35.620 What about if you, um.

01:05:37.020 Who was Abraham Lincoln's son?

01:05:38.620 Dave Lincoln. 0.94

01:05:39.500 That's a ridiculous idea. 0.97

01:05:40.260 It was Dave Lincoln. 0.98

01:05:41.360 Was it?

01:05:41.980 Dave Lincoln.

01:05:43.040 Was it really?

01:05:44.540 Or Ricky Lincoln.

01:05:45.560 Bring it.

01:05:45.820 Who is his son?

01:05:50.020 Tad Lincoln.

01:05:50.940 Oh my God.

01:05:51.840 Yeah.

01:05:52.320 Oh yeah.

01:05:52.760 Go to his information.

01:05:53.620 Let's see him.

01:05:54.080 Wow.

01:05:54.380 That's dude.

01:05:55.100 You could be Tad Lincoln.

01:05:57.740 The fourth son of Abraham Lincoln.

01:05:59.540 What was his, uh, born with a cleft lip and palate.

01:06:02.880 I'll work with Tim Monick.

01:06:03.880 We were talking about earlier.

01:06:04.940 I'll work with Tim Monick on it, you know, and hopefully there's no strike.

01:06:07.280 And imagine his father gave some of the greatest speeches and here he is.

01:06:10.260 And he has this kind of like a little bit of a, um, like a disfigurement or some impairment.

01:06:15.000 Right, right, right.

01:06:15.400 And he's like, how do I overcome this?

01:06:16.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:17.180 To say something as important that my father said.

01:06:19.520 Did he ever?

01:06:20.180 Did he ever?

01:06:21.060 Um.

01:06:21.420 We could change it.

01:06:22.220 We could just give him the speech.

01:06:23.420 They were considered notorious hellions.

01:06:25.360 Him and his brother Willie.

01:06:26.380 He was sick a lot.

01:06:27.320 He got, um, typhoid.

01:06:29.180 A lot of people were getting sick back then.

01:06:30.580 Yeah.

01:06:31.060 Oh, easily.

01:06:31.600 You caught a Frisbee that was dirty and you were down for two months.

01:06:34.060 He went to see Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp.

01:06:38.160 Oh, wow.

01:06:38.680 On April 14th, 1865, Tad went to Grover's Theater to play Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp while

01:06:43.640 his parents attended the performance of Tom Taylor's play Our American Cousin at Ford Theater.

01:06:48.000 That night his father was assassinated.

01:06:49.580 Wow.

01:06:49.860 So he was at.

01:06:50.480 That'll be, uh, that could be my big scene.

01:06:52.740 Yeah.

01:06:53.220 Pau's dead.

01:06:53.700 And you finally run up to him as he's done.

01:06:55.580 Yeah.

01:06:55.840 And you say something super important.

01:06:57.320 Who's playing Abraham Lincoln?

01:06:58.320 Huh?

01:06:58.660 Who's playing Lincoln?

01:07:00.360 I don't know.

01:07:00.780 We got to get somebody good.

01:07:02.240 Pau's dead.

01:07:02.800 I can hardly believe that.

01:07:03.520 I shouldn't ever see him. 1.00

01:07:04.180 This is, this is some heavy shit. 0.99

01:07:05.900 After the assassination, Mary, Robert, and Tad lived together in Chicago. 0.99

01:07:10.300 Oh, he died at 18, dude.

01:07:11.560 I can't.

01:07:12.080 Come on.

01:07:12.760 Oh. 1.00

01:07:13.700 Holy shit. 1.00

01:07:14.880 Tuberculosis. 1.00

01:07:15.380 Well, this was a waste of pitch.

01:07:16.160 A pleuristic attack.

01:07:17.260 This was a waste of a pitch right here.

01:07:18.860 Pneumonia and congestive heart failure.

01:07:20.760 You could do it, man.

01:07:21.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:22.220 I think you could do it.

01:07:22.840 Yeah, they'll age me down a little bit.

01:07:24.240 Or Jim Carrey.

01:07:24.900 I think I could see you playing a Jim Carrey one day, too.

01:07:26.940 I was thinking about that.

01:07:27.560 He's brilliant, dude.

01:07:28.420 I mean.

01:07:28.920 He's so brilliant.

01:07:29.860 Yeah.

01:07:30.160 He, uh, have you seen his, um, have you seen his, uh, he went to some fashion event in

01:07:34.380 like 2018, 2019.

01:07:35.500 You see this red carpet interview. 0.98

01:07:36.540 It's the biggest not give a fuck interview of all time. 0.99

01:07:39.620 Yeah. 0.97

01:07:39.720 If we have enough time, we should add 20 minutes to this anyway, if we can't.

01:07:42.160 This is, this is the greatest.

01:07:44.000 He looks so dropped into being himself.

01:07:45.800 Yeah.

01:07:46.080 Yes.

01:07:46.840 What?

01:07:47.120 I've covered a lot of fashion weeks.

01:07:48.540 This is the first time I've run in to Jim Carrey.

01:07:51.940 Wait.

01:07:52.300 Controlling the room.

01:07:53.180 Is it true you're wandering the streets?

01:07:54.520 You need a date to the party?

01:07:55.680 What's up?

01:07:56.280 No, no, no.

01:07:56.940 I'm, I'm, I'm doing just fine.

01:07:58.460 Uh, I just, uh, you know, there's no meaning to any of this.

01:08:01.680 So I, uh, I wanted to find the most meaningless thing that I could come to and join.

01:08:07.160 And, uh, and, uh, and here I am.

01:08:10.580 They're celebrating.

01:08:11.120 I mean, you gotta admit it's completely meaningless.

01:08:13.360 Well, they say they're celebrating icons inside.

01:08:15.980 Celebrating icons.

01:08:16.860 Boy, that is just the absolute lowest aiming, you know, possibility that we could come up

01:08:23.900 with.

01:08:24.220 It's like icons.

01:08:25.900 What do you, do you believe in icons?

01:08:27.720 I don't believe in personalities.

01:08:29.220 I don't believe that you exist, but there is a wonderful fragrance in the air.

01:08:34.360 You don't believe certain icons have a knowledge.

01:08:35.840 Even when she doesn't exist, he's still trying to flirt.

01:08:37.820 That's the best part.

01:08:39.040 Fire others?

01:08:40.460 Artistry?

01:08:40.920 You're one of them.

01:08:42.140 On the good foot.

01:08:43.240 Ha! 0.89

01:08:44.720 He's like, you're invisible, but let's smash. 0.53

01:08:47.200 No, no.

01:08:49.160 Yeah, no, I, uh, I don't believe in icons.

01:08:51.740 That's good, man.

01:08:52.780 I don't believe in personalities.

01:08:53.780 That's good.

01:08:54.300 Yeah.

01:08:54.860 That would be an interesting guy to play, because that's really cool.

01:08:57.420 That's a cool scene to play, if you could do that.

01:08:58.980 Yeah.

01:08:59.320 And I think he's had a crazy life.

01:09:00.560 Yeah, what his life was like.

01:09:01.700 Yeah.

01:09:02.140 I mean, he was the biggest, biggest.

01:09:04.260 Bigger than anything.

01:09:04.880 Bigger than anything, right?

01:09:05.500 In the 2000s?

01:09:06.180 Oh, yeah.

01:09:07.720 And he had a show called In Living Color before that, that was like Jamie Foxx was on it.

01:09:11.000 Yeah, he was the only white guy on it.

01:09:12.240 Yeah.

01:09:12.480 Right?

01:09:12.860 It was him, yeah, and they had a, um, uh.

01:09:15.180 And now he's become an artist.

01:09:16.620 Yeah, and now he's an artist.

01:09:17.880 But it's just interesting to get all the art out of your system, you know?

01:09:21.040 Because some artists.

01:09:21.580 I think that's kind of what he, I think that's what he feels like.

01:09:24.120 I saw an interview with him today, Sonic the Hedgehog.

01:09:25.740 They said, why'd you do this?

01:09:26.520 He said, for the money.

01:09:27.740 Hmm.

01:09:29.320 But what a life.

01:09:29.920 Because when Bruce Almighty was coming on, I mean, really, he was like the biggest, uh.

01:09:33.100 Oh, yeah.

01:09:34.000 Wow.

01:09:35.500 You feel like you have to be like, because you're kind of like the, the, the, the, it

01:09:40.880 guy, like the, it younger guy in Hollywood.

01:09:44.680 For sure.

01:09:45.080 For sure.

01:09:45.560 You know?

01:09:46.060 Does that.

01:09:47.940 But does that feel like, I don't know.

01:09:50.960 And I know it's like, do you, how do you, and a lot of that is a lot of times curtailed

01:09:55.620 by like the industry.

01:09:56.640 Like you're.

01:09:57.000 Yeah, of course.

01:09:57.500 Like you have a, like, I thought you'd come with like in a tank or something.

01:10:01.200 Like you drove over here by yourself.

01:10:02.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:03.380 So definitely, um, kind of, I guess, maybe against what I was thinking, which doesn't

01:10:08.080 mean anything.

01:10:09.140 Um, but do you worry about how do you still be yourself and find yourself at a time when

01:10:14.500 you could be so maneuvered by, um, so many bigger.

01:10:18.380 Listen, man, not to bring it back to the movie, but that's where Bob Dylan's so influential.

01:10:21.300 No, this is perfect.

01:10:22.180 No, because Bob always followed his path.

01:10:25.060 And what's interesting about the movie industry instead of like, as opposed to the music industry,

01:10:28.960 the music industry, you write your own music, you know, and it's direct to the consumer in 0.95

01:10:33.080 some sense, like you do whatever the fuck you want. 0.96

01:10:34.800 And if people are vibing with it, you'll know and whatever. 0.76

01:10:36.960 In the movie industry, you do kind of have to, there, you, you gotta be reliable.

01:10:42.180 You know, a musician, you show up whenever you want.

01:10:44.060 They could be rockstar, show up four hours late.

01:10:45.440 If you're three hours late to a movie, they got to call insurance.

01:10:47.420 You cost a million dollars now.

01:10:48.900 You'll never work again. 1.00

01:10:49.800 So there's a part of the job that's obedient in a sense, but the best art and the best shit 0.56

01:10:54.880 we see is stuff that, you know, people showed up for people showed up, but, but also where 0.92

01:11:00.760 they, they broke rules in a sense, you know, I was just talking to, you know, yeah.

01:11:04.320 And, and, and, and so it's a fine line and I look at it like this, this is my inner Tom

01:11:10.600 Cruz where I want movies to be seen and I don't want to, I don't want to live an unobedient

01:11:16.200 life, but I also want at a time where maybe Hollywood or movie makers got a perception

01:11:23.120 of like, um, sometimes being out of touch or something or definitely like awards type

01:11:28.940 movies.

01:11:29.820 I want, especially a movie about Bob Dylan.

01:11:32.740 I want, in all the movies I work on, that's why I did Dune.

01:11:35.000 That's why I did Wonka.

01:11:35.840 And I'm proud that those movies, I know I'm not supposed to pat myself on the back, but

01:11:38.500 I'm, those movies were big, you know, like in the movie industry or the movie business,

01:11:42.740 brick and mortar theaters, they don't, they don't do the business they once did.

01:11:46.320 Some of that's inevitable because of streaming, but I want to put my best foot forward.

01:11:49.540 You gotta, you gotta give back to the industry that gave to you.

01:11:52.440 That's really my MO.

01:11:53.920 And that's why I'm, that's why I'm here that, you know, you know, um, otherwise that's

01:12:00.600 why you can't be the reclusive figure that Bob Dylan or Daniel Day-Lewis or these guys

01:12:03.740 were because the, the, the, it's not about the bottom line, but the, the attention isn't

01:12:08.160 guaranteed the way it used to be.

01:12:09.580 You know what I mean?

01:12:10.860 I hope this doesn't sound like too inside baseball or whatever.

01:12:12.760 I want inside baseball.

01:12:13.500 I'll just, you know, you're like a real thinker, you know?

01:12:16.160 So it's not like you're going to give some answer that isn't traveling through your thoughts

01:12:20.300 and you explaining stuff.

01:12:21.620 Yeah.

01:12:21.840 So that's perfect.

01:12:22.440 There's no wrong way to answer it.

01:12:23.820 It's a weird thing.

01:12:24.840 It's like, yeah.

01:12:26.320 And then also I had a full ass real life before my career took off, like in the East village

01:12:30.420 in New York.

01:12:31.360 So, um, not that my life isn't real now, but like obviously on these press stores and stuff,

01:12:35.780 the days are micromanaged in some way, but man.

01:12:38.420 And you, here's the thing.

01:12:40.280 That's another thing I say, like as a musician or as a pop star, whatever, your music can

01:12:43.800 be about your erosion of humanity.

01:12:45.880 Like it could be about, Hey, I'm driving this car and, uh, this is the crazy lifestyle

01:12:51.060 of, but if you're an actor, if you, if you lose your sense of humanity, if you lose your

01:12:55.880 stink, for lack of a better word, people will see that on screen.

01:12:59.440 You do see it on screen. 0.99

01:13:00.440 Oh, you seem too fancy.

01:13:01.280 You seem out of touch.

01:13:01.820 People are going to know.

01:13:02.680 That's why the safety movie I just did, man, he put me, he put me through the ringer.

01:13:06.300 Really?

01:13:06.780 Oh yeah.

01:13:07.200 And I felt like, I felt like he was testing me early on.

01:13:09.400 What does that mean? 0.99

01:13:10.120 So when somebody's like, so a director can kind of put you through some fucking shit? 1.00

01:13:13.960 Yeah. 0.99

01:13:14.200 Look, Josh knew me since I was 21.

01:13:16.980 Josh Safdie?

01:13:17.560 Safdie. 0.97

01:13:18.020 Okay.

01:13:18.220 I was 21.

01:13:18.940 Uncut Gems.

01:13:19.720 That's, that's that movie, right?

01:13:20.540 Yeah.

01:13:20.780 Uncut Gems.

01:13:20.920 That's one of the best movies.

01:13:22.300 There you go, man.

01:13:23.080 And good, and good time, you know, good time with Robert Pattinson.

01:13:25.820 He directed too.

01:13:26.460 I haven't seen that.

01:13:27.080 I'm saving Robert Pattinson for after, for later.

01:13:29.140 Yeah.

01:13:29.360 Yeah.

01:13:29.500 For sure.

01:13:29.980 For sure.

01:13:30.240 Um, but, um, you know, like early on we had stuff that could have been stunt guys on this

01:13:35.100 movie, on, on Marty Supreme.

01:13:37.140 And I saw him wanting me to do it.

01:13:39.060 And part of me was like, this feels like a test, you know?

01:13:41.180 And I wanted to show him.

01:13:42.400 And then I, now I feel like I've emerged from the other side with no broken bones or whatever.

01:13:45.540 Thank God.

01:13:46.400 But, and, and, and Josh, I know I'm supposed to be talking about the Bob Dylan movie, but

01:13:49.860 Josh is like, yeah.

01:13:50.700 It's all you acting.

01:13:51.220 Yeah.

01:13:51.640 Yeah.

01:13:51.840 Josh is the real deal, man.

01:13:53.340 Like, and seriously, like Josh Safdie, he's like the modern day Scorsese.

01:13:57.720 Dang, I want to meet that guy.

01:13:58.740 Oh, dude, you would love him.

01:14:00.260 That's him?

01:14:00.920 Yeah.

01:14:01.460 Yeah.

01:14:02.560 Yeah.

01:14:03.040 I would like to meet him.

01:14:04.220 Yeah.

01:14:04.400 He could play Abraham Lincoln.

01:14:06.040 He could play Abraham Lincoln.

01:14:07.160 And you play Tad Lincoln.

01:14:08.400 I could play Tad Lincoln.

01:14:09.560 Tell him right now.

01:14:10.420 His brother's an actor, Benny.

01:14:11.520 You ever see, um, you saw the Nathan Fielder show with Emma Stone on Showtime?

01:14:15.220 No?

01:14:15.420 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:15.840 That's his brother.

01:14:16.660 I've seen Nathan Fielder show.

01:14:17.680 Yeah.

01:14:18.560 Wow.

01:14:18.920 That's cool.

01:14:19.500 Yeah.

01:14:19.740 Yeah.

01:14:20.260 Wow.

01:14:20.660 That must've been awesome, man.

01:14:22.020 Because he's a, that guy, that, that uncut Jim's is so good.

01:14:24.800 I look forward to seeing that.

01:14:25.800 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:25.940 This is a crazy, crazy fucking movie. 1.00

01:14:28.240 So directors can do that. 1.00

01:14:29.740 Sometimes it's like that.

01:14:30.300 It's going to be a journey.

01:14:31.500 It's going to be a journey.

01:14:32.560 Yeah.

01:14:32.960 And what was the biggest journey through the, um, through the, um, unknown?

01:14:37.740 I just want to get the name of it.

01:14:38.800 A complete unknown Christmas day.

01:14:40.460 Through, um, what was it?

01:14:42.480 Yeah.

01:14:43.300 Leave it like that.

01:14:44.200 What was the biggest journey through a complete unknown on Christmas day?

01:14:46.940 Yeah.

01:14:47.120 Yeah.

01:14:47.260 It's kind of, you know, the biggest, it's only on Christmas.

01:14:51.580 You can see it comes out on Christmas day.

01:14:53.000 Yeah.

01:14:53.080 Yeah.

01:14:53.700 Um, biggest journey was the music and the voice.

01:14:56.340 And also I've never had my phone off the entire movie.

01:14:58.600 I had three months.

01:14:59.660 You can phone off the whole movie.

01:15:00.200 Yeah.

01:15:00.480 I had three months to play this guy and then the rest of my life I never get to play him

01:15:03.860 again.

01:15:04.320 So I just want, I was, I was locked in.

01:15:06.200 Also, you're never supposed to say you're competitive, but I want, you know, there's

01:15:11.900 been a lot of music biopics.

01:15:13.780 Yeah. 0.99

01:15:14.060 And I wanted to do a great fucking job, man. 0.99

01:15:16.520 I love Bob Dylan. 0.99

01:15:18.000 I love this artist.

01:15:19.640 None of this is for granted.

01:15:20.940 This little misconception about actors too and acting, you can have a cushy job on a

01:15:24.280 TV show. 0.97

01:15:24.860 If you don't give a fuck about your work, it could be a great lifestyle, right? 0.99

01:15:27.780 You're making like high six figures, maybe low seven figures and you're just showing 0.99

01:15:31.460 up when you want. 0.99

01:15:32.140 If you give a fuck about what you're doing, these are, these are long ass days. 0.99

01:15:36.200 Wow. 0.99

01:15:36.360 You know what I mean?

01:15:36.680 These are 14 hour days, six days a week sometimes, you know, three months.

01:15:40.780 Look, I know, I know people got it way harder, but I want to feel that grit.

01:15:44.920 You know, I want to feel it.

01:15:46.300 You know, I hope people don't laugh at it. 0.91

01:15:47.280 I fucking really, I feel like I'm the hardest working man. 0.79

01:15:50.340 Anyway, maybe I shouldn't say that, but, but. 0.93

01:15:52.560 No, you respect what you do.

01:15:54.240 Yeah.

01:15:54.640 Cause you got to, what else is the point?

01:15:56.080 I talk about this with friends a lot.

01:15:57.120 Like this is too weird a lifestyle to be.

01:16:01.400 Nonchalant about.

01:16:02.060 Yeah.

01:16:02.440 Why do this?

01:16:03.520 Yeah.

01:16:04.480 If you're not going to go as hard as possible.

01:16:06.600 Yeah.

01:16:06.900 On Marty Supreme, I'm wearing contacts cause he wanted my eyes to be little.

01:16:12.040 So he gives me real glasses that fuck my eyes up and I'm wearing contacts underneath to offset

01:16:17.420 what the glasses are doing. 0.96

01:16:18.520 And my vision was, my vision was basically fucked up until a day ago. 0.52

01:16:21.940 Every time I took these glasses off, my, my vision was skewed. 0.89

01:16:25.920 Wow.

01:16:26.340 You know?

01:16:27.440 You're like the Forrest Gump of sight or whatever.

01:16:29.480 Yeah.

01:16:30.180 Yeah.

01:16:30.540 Yeah.

01:16:30.940 Right.

01:16:31.460 Sort of.

01:16:32.240 Dude, Forrest Gump is a, we had the Forrest Gump ping pong coaches.

01:16:35.240 Same.

01:16:35.600 Lovely couple in LA, Diego and Wei.

01:16:37.680 Been married 40 years.

01:16:38.700 Wei is a Chinese ping pong champion.

01:16:40.260 Nuh-uh.

01:16:40.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:41.040 From the 80s.

01:16:41.720 She pretty cool? 0.99

01:16:42.720 She was, she's like, we would train.

01:16:46.060 Yeah.

01:16:46.480 Wei. 0.79

01:16:46.780 Wei Li.

01:16:47.080 There she is.

01:16:48.280 There she is.

01:16:48.920 Marty Supreme.

01:16:49.540 That's my ping pong coach.

01:16:50.640 You know, we trained for three hours and then she said, let's play for real.

01:16:52.860 And she's like, she's probably like 97 pounds. 1.00

01:16:55.700 Oh.

01:16:56.020 She's like five foot one.

01:16:56.720 And she's just like, yeah.

01:16:58.800 Unbelievable.

01:16:59.120 You're not getting a point across.

01:17:00.460 Yeah.

01:17:01.060 Yeah.

01:17:01.380 A little bit of that.

01:17:03.920 Do you, um, yeah.

01:17:06.040 Did you have to, so your phone was off for that long?

01:17:08.360 So you just locked in and what would you do to just go to, do you sleep on set or what

01:17:11.580 do you do?

01:17:12.000 What's that like?

01:17:12.520 I sleep on set and you know, method acting, that gets like a bad rap.

01:17:15.040 People think it's just like a person being a prick and obliging everyone around them to

01:17:18.880 subscribe to a reality that's not real.

01:17:20.380 So the thing I came up with, I call it, dude, that's just everybody's stepdad as well.

01:17:24.400 Yeah, exactly.

01:17:25.300 Exactly.

01:17:26.160 That's method acting.

01:17:27.080 I need a bear.

01:17:28.260 Yeah, exactly.

01:17:29.220 And, uh, yeah. 0.99

01:17:30.600 Damn it. 1.00

01:17:32.260 Give me that goddamn Miller Lite. 1.00

01:17:34.120 But, uh, but, uh, I call it, I call it method energy because, um, you know, you, you 1.00

01:17:39.920 know, uh, you'd shit on me too if I'm coming off like a dick, but, um, you know, um, I just 0.88

01:17:44.480 tried to, no cell phones, nothing that reminds you of the present. 0.99

01:17:47.600 Um, and try to treat it like Bob Dylan as much as possible, especially if you're playing

01:17:53.040 somebody that iconic.

01:17:54.140 That was tough too.

01:17:55.200 He didn't feel like an icon when he was himself. 1.00

01:17:56.780 He was just living his fucking life. 0.99

01:17:58.160 So if you talk to too many people that, uh, you gotta avoid earworms. 1.00

01:18:02.480 Oh, like if somebody put something in your head that's, that says in there.

01:18:05.260 Yeah.

01:18:05.580 That's why Edward Norton, I love him.

01:18:06.840 He's great.

01:18:07.200 Pete Seeger in the movie, but he's like, Edward Norton is a little bit his character in the

01:18:10.480 movie Birdman.

01:18:11.060 If you ever saw that, he's like a very confident, opinionated actor.

01:18:13.800 So I would kind of have to, you know, and then he caught me watching rounders one day

01:18:19.780 and then he, then, then it was over.

01:18:21.880 Then he knew he had me.

01:18:23.080 That's like, yeah.

01:18:23.760 If you're watching another movie, it's a movie that some guys, he caught me in the hair

01:18:26.520 makeup show.

01:18:26.820 Oh, you like rounders? 0.99

01:18:27.800 And I was like, all right, now, now we're going to talk.

01:18:30.580 Oh, hold me for a second.

01:18:32.340 Huh?

01:18:32.620 That's a lot.

01:18:33.600 Yeah.

01:18:34.080 I'm still jumping on you at the end of this.

01:18:36.460 Get ready.

01:18:37.240 As long as it's on the front, brother.

01:18:38.480 Yeah.

01:18:38.700 Get ready.

01:18:39.460 Get ready.

01:18:40.140 Calm down, man.

01:18:40.820 Get ready.

01:18:41.300 Get ready.

01:18:41.740 It's getting a little too Hollywood for you.

01:18:44.040 I'm getting you at your comfort zone.

01:18:46.460 I've been out of my comfort zone since I was born.

01:18:48.840 All right.

01:18:49.360 Fair, fair, fair.

01:18:50.580 Yeah.

01:18:50.900 I never subscribed to it.

01:18:52.080 I never, or I never got the keys, whatever.

01:18:53.760 You know, the code they give you in high school to your locker.

01:18:55.600 Yeah.

01:18:55.720 You never got that.

01:18:56.400 I remember going up to my comfort zone and being like, oh, I don't think this is it.

01:18:59.280 What's the most comfortable you've ever felt in your life?

01:19:00.980 Oh, that's a great question.

01:19:02.200 The most comfortable.

01:19:03.100 Like most in your body, no drugs, no alcohol.

01:19:06.480 Probably after like a sauna and ice bath type of thing.

01:19:09.280 Oh, you do ice baths?

01:19:10.080 Yeah.

01:19:10.540 Yeah.

01:19:10.660 I'll get in there, dude.

01:19:11.840 Oh, yeah.

01:19:12.700 Yeah. 1.00

01:19:13.060 I'll fricking just, I'll lay in a polar bear's ass, brother. 1.00

01:19:16.340 I like it. 1.00

01:19:16.840 I like it like that.

01:19:18.140 Oh, yeah.

01:19:18.760 I like it just brisk like that, you know?

01:19:21.000 I love that.

01:19:21.920 Would you go to the Arctic?

01:19:22.900 Oh, yeah.

01:19:23.260 I would go up there.

01:19:24.340 Mr. Beast just went up there.

01:19:25.540 He went to Antarctica.

01:19:27.160 Whoa.

01:19:27.660 I don't know what he, but he said it was nothing up there.

01:19:29.600 There's not even like, you can't be like, hey, let's go somewhere.

01:19:32.180 And like, no, you can't.

01:19:33.340 I don't get how that stuff works, man.

01:19:34.820 Where does he get, where does he get the money?

01:19:37.280 He's just huge, huh?

01:19:38.880 I guess.

01:19:39.460 He just has a lot of just expendable income to be that guy, you know?

01:19:42.940 That's the other thing, like, where I want to be humble about putting movies out there.

01:19:46.200 People's attention is elsewhere now.

01:19:48.360 It's quick.

01:19:48.720 You're like, yeah, and you got to convince someone to see a complete unknown on Christmas 0.98

01:19:53.100 Day and take the $15 or $20 or whatever the fuck it is now. 0.94

01:19:56.920 And instead of watching, you know, Mr. Beast in the Arctic. 0.93

01:20:00.780 Well, Mr. Beast has a show actually that comes out right before that, if like a week before,

01:20:03.640 but he was just, we were talking about it the other day.

01:20:06.840 And it's interesting, yeah.

01:20:07.660 Yeah.

01:20:08.060 And it's an interesting show.

01:20:09.020 Totally different, though.

01:20:09.820 But one thing that's great about your movie is that, first of all, you just get, you

01:20:13.580 also just, in addition to whatever's going on with the movie, you get to hear like

01:20:16.020 great music.

01:20:16.920 Yeah, it's great music, great, great music.

01:20:19.500 It's great music.

01:20:20.320 You get to remember like Woody Guthrie.

01:20:23.080 Who played Woody Guthrie in it?

01:20:24.460 Scoot McNary.

01:20:25.240 He's amazing.

01:20:26.000 Yeah.

01:20:26.200 He's amazing.

01:20:26.860 Full of picture of Scoot McNary.

01:20:27.660 Yeah, Scoot McNary. 0.99

01:20:28.880 Get a look at him before something happens to him.

01:20:30.500 Yeah, and he doesn't have a line in the movie. 0.65

01:20:33.620 He doesn't have a line because he's so sick.

01:20:37.000 Because he's so sick.

01:20:38.700 That was pretty awesome.

01:20:39.520 Yeah, we had Bernie Sanders on and he was saying that, he said Pete Seeger was one of his favorite

01:20:43.440 musicians.

01:20:43.580 Scoot McNary could play Bernie Sanders in a biopic.

01:20:45.540 Oh, he could.

01:20:46.260 Right?

01:20:46.820 Yeah.

01:20:47.160 Totally could.

01:20:47.940 Dude, you could play Ronald Reagan's son, Ricky Reagan or whatever.

01:20:50.880 Is that a real guy?

01:20:52.000 Is that a real guy?

01:20:52.640 Probably, dude.

01:20:53.460 Bernie hasn't aged.

01:20:55.460 Nah, Bernie still looks the same.

01:20:56.440 He's the best, dude.

01:20:57.220 He's looked the same in the last, yeah.

01:21:00.080 He's like a real folk hero.

01:21:02.400 That's a great point.

01:21:03.000 Yeah, Bernie is.

01:21:04.260 He is a folk hero.

01:21:05.100 Yeah, he's folk music.

01:21:06.220 Yeah, and you also forget about like what, yeah, I mean, that's another thing about the

01:21:09.180 movie.

01:21:09.300 You see the challenge of Bob Dylan to like take on like music and culture.

01:21:13.760 There's this whole other cultural thing that's kind of happening in the background, like on

01:21:16.520 the television and the news during the movie.

01:21:18.100 It was a crazy time.

01:21:19.160 It was like the, it was the.

01:21:20.380 It was a cool piece of life.

01:21:21.260 It was a cool piece of life.

01:21:22.020 The 60s were a cool time.

01:21:23.180 When you get out of it all and it's done.

01:21:25.340 I was beat on this one.

01:21:26.520 Were you?

01:21:26.940 Yeah, I was.

01:21:27.400 What does that really look like, a break?

01:21:28.500 Do you go to like a beach and it's. . .

01:21:30.160 No, another thing, another misconception about movies, like as opposed to the academic year,

01:21:34.400 it kind of winds down.

01:21:35.260 You're never winding down in a movie.

01:21:36.700 You're doing 14 hour days and you go off a cliff and it's done.

01:21:40.100 You know, in other words, you don't relax towards the end.

01:21:43.360 Like, you know, we were doing a very important scene and it was done forever, you know?

01:21:46.480 And yeah, I guess I relaxed a little bit.

01:21:48.160 I went on vacation, but I was beat.

01:21:49.640 I've been working.

01:21:49.980 I was working on this for five years.

01:21:51.040 This was like, this was like, this was as important to me as you going to the parking

01:21:56.240 lot and spying on the, on the, on the swim team of Lipscomb College.

01:22:00.860 Nothing to see here.

01:22:02.140 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:03.780 I'm just recruiting guys.

01:22:05.620 I'm just recruiting production assistants.

01:22:07.440 But, but. . .

01:22:08.840 Do you, so it was. . .

01:22:11.220 Do you think you would have done it more justice five years earlier?

01:22:14.060 No, absolutely not.

01:22:15.200 Also, because I had the experience in my life where I would do interviews and, you know,

01:22:19.700 it's a scary time to come up with the internet and stuff.

01:22:22.140 You know, you want to get it right.

01:22:23.300 And Bob Dylan, his early press conferences, he was. . . .

01:22:26.240 confrontational. 1.00

01:22:27.180 He was basically a dick. 0.99

01:22:28.620 And I thought there was something really inspiring about that. 0.99

01:22:31.020 Not, not that I ever wanted to be like that, but I just thought it was so different than

01:22:34.040 how people are now.

01:22:34.920 Yeah.

01:22:35.420 Where you, where you. . .

01:22:36.480 Right, you're just automatically cordial.

01:22:37.880 You just assume, like. . .

01:22:38.780 Well, you got to be, man.

01:22:39.740 A, A, I am. . .

01:22:41.600 I'm not a great. . .

01:22:42.220 Pretty cordial guy.

01:22:42.520 Yeah, but B, God forbid, you know, you don't want to be. . .

01:22:46.200 Anyway, so, but he's. . .

01:22:47.380 These early press conferences, you know, if, if you're tremendously bored and not watching

01:22:51.600 Mr. B stuff, watch the, the, the early Bob Dylan San Francisco press conferences.

01:22:56.240 You know, and I just thought. . .

01:22:57.060 So anyway, five years working on it, I got a better sense on the other side of it.

01:23:00.960 Oh, this is why he would have carried himself like that.

01:23:03.040 You know, he had some wherewithal I didn't have in his early 20s where somebody said,

01:23:06.000 how do you do it?

01:23:07.020 He goes, basically, I didn't want to tell anyone.

01:23:09.400 You know, me, maybe because, uh, whatever, the acting bone.

01:23:12.320 Somebody says, how do you do it?

01:23:13.040 And you, you, you're so desperate for that pat on your back.

01:23:15.380 And you go, this is how I did it, you know?

01:23:18.080 Yeah.

01:23:18.680 Yeah.

01:23:19.340 Yeah.

01:23:19.740 I just want to, yeah, because, and you get more experience that you can put into something

01:23:22.560 like you were saying earlier about acting.

01:23:23.860 Like, you can keep doing it for a long time, you know?

01:23:26.120 Exactly.

01:23:27.020 Um, you know, can we hear any Bob?

01:23:29.060 Is that a weird thing to ask you, dude?

01:23:30.380 Is that lame?

01:23:31.520 Like, like live right now?

01:23:33.040 I'll try it.

01:23:33.780 Go for it.

01:23:34.220 All right.

01:23:36.960 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

01:23:39.960 hold on.

01:23:41.540 Let me try it one time.

01:23:43.640 Hey, who is there?

01:23:45.420 Hold on.

01:23:45.840 Uh, I got to give it.

01:23:46.740 Get into it, man.

01:23:47.360 Get into it.

01:23:48.480 Hey, who's at the door?

01:23:50.080 That's not it, dude.

01:23:50.880 That's horrible.

01:23:51.600 That was pretty good.

01:23:52.900 You got the nasality down.

01:23:54.860 You got the nasality.

01:23:55.780 I'll make up a word.

01:23:56.860 You're verbifying things.

01:23:58.120 And that's what Bob Dylan did.

01:23:58.940 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:23:59.400 You just made shit up. 0.99

01:24:00.240 That was good, man. 1.00

01:24:01.260 He verbified things, didn't he?

01:24:02.500 I don't think, I'm trying to think who your music biopic would be still.

01:24:06.460 It might have to be, um.

01:24:07.760 What about Chet Baker?

01:24:08.500 I would do Chet Baker.

01:24:11.060 Chet Baker or, um.

01:24:12.480 Chet Hanks, even.

01:24:14.680 You should do that Chet Hanks biopic, dude.

01:24:17.580 That would be unbelievable.

01:24:18.500 That's a, that's a glitch in the system.

01:24:20.400 Yeah, it's all, everything is.

01:24:22.420 Yeah, everything's a glitch, dude.

01:24:24.060 Jon Bon Jovi, it could be anybody.

01:24:25.900 Chet has a new country album that's going to come out this year, too, I think.

01:24:28.360 Dude, you got to play Chet.

01:24:29.300 Also, it'd be a great excuse to get shredded.

01:24:31.800 Now, that would be, I would just do it for the head.

01:24:33.560 Just do it for that.

01:24:34.240 They'll set you up to the best trainers.

01:24:35.600 You'll get the HGH.

01:24:36.420 I could do it, man.

01:24:39.920 I'm trying to think if there's anything else that we want to ask or anything else that

01:24:42.560 you wanted to say, Timothy?

01:24:43.840 Oh, man.

01:24:44.540 No, just thanks for having me on.

01:24:45.560 I'm trying to think, um.

01:24:47.760 I think we kind of covered a lot of new stuff.

01:24:49.060 I think we covered it all, man.

01:24:50.400 Yeah.

01:24:50.860 I got to water my plants, dude.

01:24:51.860 I just got home.

01:24:52.900 Wait, did you have a place in LA?

01:24:53.880 Yeah, I still have an apartment, yeah.

01:24:54.800 Oh, you do?

01:24:55.220 Is it here?

01:24:55.680 Over in Westwood.

01:24:56.700 In Westwood.

01:24:57.280 All right, nice.

01:24:57.640 I love Westwood.

01:24:58.380 And so, yeah, I get my plants.

01:24:59.500 Diddy Reese?

01:25:00.180 And I forget, yeah, I go over there sometimes.

01:25:01.880 I go walk over there and sometimes I would go for that and I would just end up getting

01:25:04.460 a bunch of vapes and just sitting over in my car.

01:25:07.180 But, um, I, uh, yeah, I would get, I just, sometimes I forget to wash my plant, I forget

01:25:12.380 to water my plants, you know?

01:25:13.740 And then I get home and it's been like a month or something.

01:25:16.060 Your place is ready to be wife-ified, man. 0.99

01:25:18.320 I know.

01:25:18.860 And I'll always water them.

01:25:19.840 I'll be like, your mother, your mother left us. 1.00

01:25:21.800 I'll yell shit like that. 1.00

01:25:22.700 I'll be like, your mother left. 1.00

01:25:24.360 To who?

01:25:24.780 To the plants, I'll just make, I'll like blame it on their like imaginary mother or

01:25:27.900 whatever.

01:25:28.260 I'll be like, we would have been fine.

01:25:31.080 She left.

01:25:32.540 And I'm just pouring water on her.

01:25:33.440 Their punishment is the water?

01:25:34.580 No, the water is there.

01:25:35.460 I'm giving them the water, but it would have been, it'd have been watered every day if their

01:25:38.440 mother-

01:25:38.920 Oh, if their mother had left.

01:25:40.020 Had left us.

01:25:40.380 Oh, so you're bringing out the resentment on the plants.

01:25:42.320 She left us.

01:25:44.240 Anyway, this is-

01:25:44.940 Who's the mother? 0.98

01:25:45.260 Poison Ivy?

01:25:45.740 It's just, it's just a fictional woman.

01:25:47.460 It's a fictional woman.

01:25:48.240 Yeah.

01:25:48.580 I feel like the next time we talk, if you have me back on, I feel like you're going to be a year

01:25:53.500 and a half into a beautiful marriage and a recent father and, and you will have, you

01:26:04.680 will have, you'll have a Subaru.

01:26:09.460 Ooh, but I'll take, you know what?

01:26:12.180 If the family comes with that and that's what it takes, I'll do it.

01:26:14.500 All right.

01:26:15.020 You know, I'll do that.

01:26:16.540 And, and I appreciate it.

01:26:18.320 Timothy Chalamet.

01:26:18.860 Thanks for all the neat acting, man.

01:26:20.100 Thanks for that.

01:26:20.600 Thanks for the movie about the drug, about, um, the young man struggling with drugs.

01:26:24.560 Thanks for the movie about Bob Dylan.

01:26:26.240 Uh, and just thanks for sharing like what it takes, the commitment that it does take.

01:26:29.120 Cause I do feel that from you.

01:26:30.560 I do feel that the commitment that it really takes if you really want to take this opportunity

01:26:35.180 and make the most of it in your life, you know?

01:26:37.040 Exactly.

01:26:37.520 Like you're doing, I see you doing, you know, you, you know, so, um, you just got to go

01:26:42.080 hard.

01:26:42.820 Amen, brother.

01:26:43.700 Um, Christmas day, the movie comes out.

01:26:46.100 You can go watch it in the theaters with your family over the holidays.

01:26:48.400 Perfect.

01:26:48.780 Perfect.

01:26:48.980 Family movie.

01:26:49.500 Yeah.

01:26:49.900 It'll be in theaters on Christmas day.

01:26:52.160 Um, a complete unknown.

01:26:54.000 Super proud of this, man.

01:26:55.860 Um, you should be, man.

01:26:56.900 Congratulations, brother.

01:26:57.460 Thanks for letting me talk about it, bro.

01:26:58.700 Yep.

01:27:00.520 That was fun, man.

01:27:01.620 Man, thank you, man.

01:27:02.460 Thank you, man. 0.99

01:27:02.780 Holy shit. 0.99

01:27:03.560 That wasn't as grand as I saw. 0.99

01:27:04.860 Yeah.

01:27:07.520 That's front side. 0.99

01:27:08.320 I'm just falling on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:27:13.820 I must be cornerstone.

01:27:19.080 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:27:24.580 I can feel it in my bones.

01:27:27.960 But it's gonna take.

01:27:30.500 Thank you.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - December 16, 2024

E551 Timothée Chalamet

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