E551 Timothée Chalamet
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1 hour and 28 minutes
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227.10435
Summary
Timothy Chalamet is one of the biggest young acting people in the world. You ve seen him in Dune, Willy Wonka, A Beautiful Boy, and now his new movie, A Complete Unknown, where he plays Bob Dylan in theaters Christmas Day.
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Today's guest is one of the biggest young acting person people in the world.
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And now his new movie, A Complete Unknown, where he plays Bob Dylan in theaters Christmas Day.
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Kind of like, you know, look at this outfit, kind of, you know.
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But it has kind of like an element of mystery, kind of.
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You couldn't take your wife or spouse or significant other.
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And you couldn't take them to dinner or something and not see somebody that would know.
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Adultery is not like a trademark of the city, probably.
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New Orleans is a little bit more dangerous, I think, you know, and better.
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I think you have to have crime to have good food.
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I was watching top five, like, top five New Orleans street foods.
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But, you know, New Orleans has one of the largest Vietnamese populations.
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For some reason, I just haven't been there before.
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You know, Nashville reminded me of Austin a little bit.
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It's one of those colleges that right next to it has the high school also.
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So it's like you can go there from K to senior year of college.
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But their soccer team has been ranked in the top 25 the past few years.
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Sometimes I'll text my neighbor who's the coach.
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I thought I was pretty, you know, high level in some way.
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You know, I got a buddy who's on the Nashville soccer team.
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You think if I hit him up, he would invite him to a game?
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I wish this is like, this is what AI is going to be in 20 years.
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What do you mean, like Blue Blockers or something?
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I played ball with him growing up and he was just gifted, you know.
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You know, you could play like, it's like that Last Dance Chicago Bulls documentary.
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Some of those guys will be partying all night and then they'll, like Dennis Rodman
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And if you don't have the gift of physical talent, of athleticism, you're cooked.
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Yeah, some people got that damn, you got a damn foot Mozart out there.
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I did get to go see Vanderbilt, which is the college that's, that's the SEC college
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You know, I never had that American college experience.
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You know, I went to Combier for a second, I went to NYU, so I'm jealous of that.
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But Vanderbilt, respect to Vanderbilt, it didn't feel like UT or, it didn't feel like it had
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But we went to one game this year, they played Alabama and they beat, they upset Alabama.
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Because usually their football program's not that good, right?
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But that was the game they won and look, they didn't even, it was like all these lawyers and
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They even had, they had a, there we are after the game, we actually, we...
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Carl Lee is their coach and he's an awesome guy.
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Yeah, she shouldn't be playing wide out, you know?
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It's just different, but no, it's a, what's it like there?
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It's a, oh, after the game, so they had like engineers like, how should we take this down?
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And then there's just drunk kids like, just rip it down.
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And then they carried it down Broadway, which is like the street you were talking about,
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the goalposts, because they'd never had it happen.
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Those kids had never broken a law in their life.
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They even tried to valet park the goalposts at like a restaurant.
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Is it a fancy, like an expensive, fancy type school?
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I mean, I don't think it's a lot of, it's a lot of kids that have never played probably dice
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So I would say it's, you know, probably pretty decent, you know?
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But it's a, it is a really cool, it's a cool program, man.
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I feel like I could see three stadiums for my hotel.
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I feel like I could see the Vanderbilt one, the Tennessee Titans one, and Nissan Stadium.
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You know, um, I, uh, not with the shameless plug, but I got this movie, A Complete Unknown,
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So I'm excited that we can actually talk about it.
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And I was, uh, very much in the time period of the movie the whole time and trying to
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stay without being a dick, you know, within the bounds of the character.
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But somebody in the hair and makeup trailer at the end of the day, they would play this
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podcast, you know, which is how I discovered it.
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And, uh, particularly the, uh, the episodes of the Garbage Man and sort of like the real
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Those were, those were like awesome episodes, you know?
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And sort of like worldviews that I wouldn't get otherwise, you know?
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And I'm from New York, so Garbage Man, he, he totally recontextualized that for me.
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Because they used to have, um, they used to have.
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Yeah, because you'd think they're taking their time.
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I mean, he was like throwing, throwing dogs in the back of the, I mean, that story is,
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There's a lot of, yeah, a lot of, a lot of, yeah, missing, formerly living things started
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Yeah, in the back of the, back of the, whatever.
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Well, they used to have incinerators in the buildings.
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So that, that people would put their trash, it would hit the incinerator, and then they
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would just have, I mean, this is like 60 or 70 years ago, I think, but they would just
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have, um, soot in barrels, you know, or in, uh, cans on the side of the street.
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And then they started getting bags, but he said, yeah, there's been times where a lot
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And, um, and I'm so happy you saw this movie and this is like, um, you know, I hope this
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Look, man, we're happy that you're here and it's interesting.
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You know, that sounds like someone, you know, is inspecting your lungs to see if you played
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Um, was it like, so let me think about a question like that.
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Just so people know, this is about a four or five year period in Bob Dylan's life.
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This is a period, yeah, four or five year period in the early Bob Dylan's life.
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And I'm sure a lot of people listening to your program are already fans of Bob Dylan's,
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but I'm sure a lot aren't because to my generation, you know.
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And he's really one of the most fantastic American artists of all time and has influenced
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And it's just, you know, I grew up on, on Kid Cudi and hip hop and that was really my,
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And then somewhere in my twenties, because this movie I was working on, I became obsessed
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with this, this man, Bob Dylan, who's absolutely, I could just speak about him endlessly.
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And, you know, I would love if people saw this movie and even if they got a passing interest,
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discover the world of Bob Dylan, I feel like we get to be a bridge or a gateway to this,
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And, uh, I hope this isn't one of your episodes where you got like someone, you know, like
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one of the ones people skip because it's like a, a person plugging.
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Like a, like a, I don't want to use that word celebrity, but like, you know, because
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my favorite episodes of yours are, Oh, like a fancy, like a fancier person, hypothetically
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No, I don't mean it like that, but just like, I like, like I said, I like the ones that
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Yeah, we don't have like a lot of celebrities on, really.
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I feel like this part of the job is that though.
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Cause when I, when I'm working, I'm really very much in it, you know what I mean?
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Actors get kind of a weird rap though, because then they also have to be celebrities in some
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And, uh, well, well, well, if you want to, if you want to get your movie out, you, there's,
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there's only a limit of how pretentious in some way, you know, whatever, you know, I want,
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I believe in this movie and I believe in this man.
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So I want to, I want to, you know, get it out there.
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I think that like you did the movie with the young man with drug addiction with Steve
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And so many people have, and it's like, um, so I don't think there's any doubt in people's
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mind about your ability to, um, be a bridge between whether it be a story, you know, a
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story or a person to, uh, a new generation or to, um, uh, new listeners or, or people
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And I appreciate you bringing up beautiful boy.
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And I feel like you're doing the exact same thing, not to just blow smoke up each other's
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ass, but I feel like when you, oh, we're a couple of naughty native Americans right here.
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If you're not, if you're listening to this and not watching this, that we're fully the
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We're out here booth and it's getting spicy out here.
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But, um, no, no, but, uh, but, uh, cause I know you speak on it too and you probably
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empower people, you know, that, uh, otherwise would be, um, doing some naughty stuff.
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People want to see like a little bit of a journey that they can relate to or hear about it.
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Um, what, so about the character, like, so Bob Dylan has like such a famous, cause yeah,
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a lot of younger generation might not know about him, you know?
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And, um, a, a lot of, um, he has such like a, uh, uh, um, that's a good Bob Dylan, man.
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How did you do when you first decided, cause I'm sure you had to practice it in your room
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or something like, tell me about the first time.
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Cause people that are fans of Bob Dylan will go, they'll all tell you got it wrong.
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That's the trouble with playing someone so famous and beloved.
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So you gotta put the blinders on and just kind of do it around people that, um, you know,
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look, man, I'm usually not that prick actor who's like obliging his friends or whatever
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to listen to the, the character he's working on it.
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Cause yeah, you don't want to get out there and do a bad job of it.
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But now it seems like, you know, we're getting a little bit of, get a little bit of love.
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Um, but was there a moment where you tried that, where you actually tried it?
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Um, I, I, I had to, there's a great dialect coach named Tim Monick.
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You know, you can work with people that are like experts in this field and they'll tell
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He, this man, Tim Monick invented dialect coaching.
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I got in trouble because the strike had just hit and I was just hanging out with him and,
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But people, people, uh, people thought I was, people thought I was a scab and I was working
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That's the only union where you'd be crossing the picket line by working on your tongue.
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Because actually when you put it like that, it's like, what are you supposed to do?
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We went to a shitty, uh, super shitty, um, it's bleak, man.
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Like, the way Bob Dylan, when he came up, there was like all these cafes in downtown
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And now I went, I was trying to find the folk scene in modern day Manhattan.
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Oh, I think in Manhattan probably, maybe like in the, somewhere in the village probably,
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I mean, I went to, I went to Cafe Wa where Bob Dylan came up and, uh, it's just like
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And you're like, oh man, this is not how it was.
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It's just a, it has like a small Aeropostale in the back, kind of.
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We had, I don't know if I'll ever see the movie.
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I've been taught to say it's not tweet anymore, I guess.
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But, uh, that he did it like three days ago, you know?
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There's a movie about me opening soon called A Complete Unknown.
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Um, Timothy Chalamet is starring in the lead role.
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Timothy's a brilliant, Timmy is a brilliant actor.
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I'm sure he's going to be a completely believable as me or a younger me or some other me.
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The film's taken from Elijah Wald's Dylan Goes Electric, a book that came out in 2015.
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It's a fantastic retelling of events from the early 60s that led up to the fiasco at Newport.
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So do you even talk to him on the phone or anything yet?
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I tried, you know, when I was 19, 20, I was, you know, I was evolving into Timothy.
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You know, I'm like, you know, like mowing my lawn all day.
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Sort of a disgruntled expression on my face watching my kids' sports games.
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Because they're not playing to the level that I was.
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At a swim meet's the worst because you can't even talk to the person next to you because
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Even if you whisper a little, the people hear it.
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And I definitely watch from my car with binoculars.
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So the fact you've been doing it since your early 20s means that, you know, it's cool.
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And this show happened, you know, this show sprouted in this period of you doing that.
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How do you expect him not to rehearse his own life?
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Um, but yeah, um, yeah, you can't, that's the thing.
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You know, that's a very non, you know, like there's four pools in New York City.
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We don't have swim meets, but we have, um, what do you guys have?
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We play dice in the hallies like you were saying before.
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But, uh, you know, I was talking about this the other day, like my high school, they wouldn't
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I feel like my skin tone from when I went into high school, by the time I got out, I looked
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Oh, it got very, you got kind of like, you know, very, um, anemic.
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Because they should give you at least an hour in the sun.
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And just because I'm learning social studies, I don't get it.
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And then I'd be in the basement doing, just acting all day.
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I was like, God, I don't want that going around.
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Hey, man, that would, listen, that's the subversive.
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Well, it was just called Drama Club or whatever, and it was a lot of people who was, it was
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a lot of people, I think, that were wanted to be actors, and then a lot of people that
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Because a lot of people don't get that opportunity.
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No, it skewed my perception of the real world, because then I got to Columbia, and I was
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like, oh, shit, the value system is totally different, you know?
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But actually, in a serious way, it kind of motivated me to go pursue my acting even harder,
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You're like, what's the exchange rate on this Hamlet scene I have?
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Yeah, I did just some stuff at school, but I would always mess it up.
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Like, we did like Sherlock Holmes or something, and I was like Watson or whatever, his buddy
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And our guy was very like progressive, so we tried to make there to be like this small
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like lover's scene, or just like some ambiance between Sherlock and Watson.
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You would have earned the respect of all your classmates.
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But yeah, there was this definitely kind of romantic where they're looking for the
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clues, and they end up kind of finding each other.
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That's what the guy said, and I was like, this seems like insane.
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But then I remember, the first night I got out there on stage, I took on this Latino
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And then, so yeah, that was just, and that's when I realized it was tough for me to be in
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I just wanted to be by myself, you know, like that kind of thing.
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Yeah, and you found this, I mean, this were for me, right?
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I just am super protective about myself for some reason, which may seem kind of weird.
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For some reason, for some reason you had me on.
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So in New York, when you were a kid, like, who was your best friend?
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I was born, I was bred at Warner Brothers Studios in a little embryo fluid.
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No, man, you know, probably Brett Goldstein, you know.
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A kid in your building or something from school?
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No, he was a kid on the Upper West Side, and my older sister was friends with his older
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And Brett, you know, that was my whole friend group.
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Then they all, my whole friend group went to this school called Computer School, and then
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I went to a school called Booker T. Washington, so I lost my friend group there.
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No, I mean, but fucking, that's more than anything.
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He says, you really made it when you don't have a roommate anymore.
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Well, yeah, I think in, well, especially in New York, because it's so expensive.
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In other places, some people get a roommate because they just get maybe lonesome or whatever.
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I would like to get one, or I'd like to get a wife maybe this year or next year.
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Do you have friends that you trust, that you would trust, like, to set you up?
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Some, but sometimes you're shocked at who they'll set you up with.
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I mean, you're just like, well, we must think, you think differently of me than I think of me.
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Just somebody put me all with, like, a, you know, just a...
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A woman in the head, like, you know, any way I say this, I lose here.
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Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
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Like, you're never nervous that people are going to watch that you're talking about?
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Yeah, but I just make sure that I just try and don't say anything that would be really mean about somebody.
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You'll send scary people after people, you know.
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You'll send guys in suits outside people's eyes to make sure they don't...
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Do you, when you go into a role like this, do you start to think like, so a lot of younger
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You almost become, you almost take a piece of the person's existence in a strange way.
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Yes and no, you know, because I've become such a fan of his that it's not like I feel
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People are going to think when they, some people are going to think you are Bob, they're
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going to think that when they think of him in the future, your face will come into
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I'm just saying that even if I have like, you know, a healthy amount of self-respect, it's never
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So I like the idea that I could be a bridge, but like I had a buddy that said, um, the
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Johnny Cash movie, Joaquin Phoenix, who is the same director, walked the line.
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He said, you know, I actually like Joaquin's versions of Johnny Cash's songs better than
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Sincerely, I don't want that to happen here because, and I wanted to protect against it
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And, uh, I don't want, I never wanted these songs to be sort of like more gentle than his
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songs, you know, and had to fight against that because the recordings we made
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He was playing on a beat up guitar with shitty recorders.
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And, uh, and I didn't want it to be like watered down, you know, cause he very purposefully
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He, you know, a lot of the books I read say he didn't have great hygiene or stuff like
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So I didn't want the movie to be watered down all of a sudden.
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But also without being him as much like you, like, not do this Hollywood version basically.
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It's a, and I've never done anything like this.
00:32:01.860
But also, you know, probably have to get psychiatric help.
00:32:04.260
But, um, but, uh, no, but, and there's a certain pressure with that Wonka too.
00:32:07.980
People are like very protective of characters they love, you know, they don't want,
00:32:10.560
and there's sort of like a cynicism about Hollywood, you know, about like, why are they keep revisiting?
00:32:14.640
Um, the Wonka thing I felt was justified because it's a new story.
00:32:17.900
We weren't doing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
00:32:21.260
And, uh, by the way, I don't know if you've seen Wonka.
00:32:27.120
You watched it while you were in the car spying on the, on the, on the list.
00:32:35.440
If you, first of all, if you've never seen the Wonka movie, you just listen to the audio.
00:32:42.360
They had Stevie Wonder at the movie last night.
00:32:51.380
No, the godfather of surround sound, basically.
00:33:01.860
Oh, dude, thanks for coming the day after your premiere.
00:33:06.820
We were up late, and I basically, I shot this movie Marty Supreme all the fall.
00:33:11.040
These crazy directors, you know, or crazy director Josh Saft.
00:33:16.240
So, it was kind of that energy, that chaotic thing.
00:33:25.960
Never, not that I ever really had a problem with it, but just, you know, because these days,
00:33:29.060
and I actually find my mind is so much sharper.
00:33:30.720
I'm amazed I haven't gotten sick through this whole, like, last couple months.
00:33:48.600
I don't do, I don't do the, I call it instant nostalgia, you know?
00:33:57.640
This is good, because this is, I'll say this, it's a great cast and a great director, so
00:34:06.100
Edward Norton should come on this podcast, man.
00:34:28.120
Yeah, they got a beautiful group of ladies in there.
00:34:54.300
I've had it for probably, well, I had it as a child.
00:34:59.260
And then I tried to, like, blend in, like, whenever I moved to Hollywood and stuff, and
00:35:15.520
And a whole, like, sort of generation of comedians came out of there then, huh?
00:35:24.180
Is that a bigger comedy base here than New York, you think?
00:35:31.580
And some people in one don't even know the people in the other.
00:35:38.540
Like, you go there, and it's almost like it feels like you have to start all over.
00:35:42.680
Like, I'll go into a club there, and it feels like I'm walking into a club for the first time.
00:35:47.880
In New York, you don't think you get the love you get out here?
00:35:49.660
I think you'll get a lot of respect, but you just feel that way.
00:35:55.140
And you want to give respect to the guys that that's their grounds that they walk on every day.
00:36:01.040
Like, if somebody came out and was, like, being real flashy, but they're not in your kind of club here,
00:36:25.200
It was the first time that he'd been back to go to SNL since his brother was on there,
00:36:43.320
I'm a big Bill Burr fan, so I went to watch him.
00:36:45.100
Did you see the last Sandler special on Netflix?
00:36:49.820
And then, there we are right there with Chris Farley's brother right there.
00:37:22.700
What about, like, his wife or his kid or something?
00:37:24.940
No, his kids, you know, almost towards the start,
00:37:34.120
But the thing is, when somebody gets revered like Bob at some point,
00:37:43.180
What do you mean by that when you say that, just so we know?
00:37:44.860
They could present the best version of someone, you know,
00:37:49.120
You know, even a lot of the documentaries about Bob,
00:37:51.880
There's one documentary called Don't Look Back,
00:37:53.600
the D.A. Pennebaker one, where you actually see him raw.
00:37:58.380
And it was sort of right before he got too famous
00:37:59.920
where he turned his back, you know, on letting himself be filmed.
00:38:02.700
And so that was, like, the biggest help for me.
00:38:04.280
And I thought about talking to his kids or his grandkids,
00:38:06.260
but actually I was at the University of Minnesota, like, three days ago.
00:38:09.720
We're doing a sort of a screening for the students there.
00:38:23.200
And then I said, well, like the video game, he said, no, never mind.
00:38:28.520
So the new Dillon, so even all the Dillons are unique.
00:38:43.000
I know that one of them gave CPR to Sketch one night or something
00:39:15.080
He has one of the most creative minds I've been around.
00:39:17.480
Just like he has his own pentameter of making jokes and stuff.
00:39:22.680
I think there's this new thing that goes on now where as if somebody's, it's interesting what's
00:39:28.420
Because stand-up has been this thing that people always go practice and then they go
00:39:31.760
But now a lot of people build so much traction from social media.
00:39:36.580
So then how do you, but then how do you take that and perform it?
00:39:41.880
Yeah, because some people on their podcasts are grand and the stand-up is different, right?
00:39:47.840
I feel like now, I feel like Netflix kind of made it, you know, sexy again in some way.
00:39:53.980
Yeah, I think, well, the news got like very all the same, I feel like, and it got very,
00:40:00.080
a lot of people believe maybe, commandeered by advertising in a way.
00:40:13.980
Also, you know that you're really resonating in some way.
00:40:16.340
Right, because it's not dollars that, or it's not like-
00:40:18.460
Well, especially in the beginning, for the first like four or five years, you're not
00:40:25.140
And then at a certain point, like, people will say, well, if you're not going to let
00:40:29.040
me say what I want, then get your advertising off of my network.
00:40:37.100
I mean, Dana White was on here one time, and one of our episodes got pulled down because
00:40:40.900
of, we had Bobby Kennedy on this, a political friend, a buddy of mine, but who also ended
00:40:48.160
up going into politics, but they didn't want to be associated with it or whatever, and
00:40:51.820
anyway, Dana was on, and he said, what, who called and said they, and we were like,
00:40:59.980
No, it was like a proton or whatever it's called.
00:41:03.680
And dude, next thing you know, people all across the country were throwing Pelotons into
00:41:11.460
No, no, based on that Sex and the City, you know, Mr. Biggs.
00:41:16.500
You didn't see that he died on the Peloton in the episode.
00:41:18.760
He dies in the episode, and then their stock crashed, because people thought it was killing
00:41:23.160
It's like, and they obviously had to sign off on that.
00:41:26.380
That's a real thing, right, Mr. Biggs, I think.
00:41:43.500
So, I just want to make sure that we get a lot about this film and what I thought that
00:41:48.200
And you don't have to like the movie, but were you-
00:41:52.600
Did you know anything about Bob Dylan before or no?
00:41:59.840
This kid I grew up with, he would play it in his room every night.
00:42:05.060
My friend Ty, who I used to live with, who, yeah, I mean, Bob Dylan was the first mumble
00:42:16.480
Everybody's like, you know, thinking that it was some of these other guys like Uzi Vert
00:42:25.800
I mean, at a certain point, can we just say that?
00:42:37.940
Sometimes it's so hard to know, you know, what people are going through.
00:42:43.580
I probably said more in this interview than he said his whole life.
00:42:55.160
Dude, you could sneeze and be like seven words ahead of him, I feel like.
00:43:02.060
Well, I just want to think anything else about the film that was-
00:43:08.780
And I had five years to work on it, so I took guitar lessons with a great-
00:43:12.980
Wait, because you auditioned for it over a long period of time?
00:43:15.880
Well, 2018, we're supposed to do it, summer of 2020.
00:43:20.320
Then I just kept working on it, kept working on it.
00:43:24.540
Then the strike hit, which is when I was coach-
00:43:27.240
Still getting in trouble for doing my, you know, getting rid of my lisp.
00:43:37.800
Yeah, to work on your, keeping your tongue down when you say certain vowels?
00:43:54.400
When I walked in here today, Theo's voice was super high.
00:44:01.020
And he kept doing this weird thing where he'd rock back and forth.
00:44:06.380
So he welcomed me, and he insisted that I jump on his back and get brought in here.
00:44:13.500
Then he assumed the character we all know, that it's Theo Vaughn.
00:44:17.120
I actually wanted him to jump on my front, dude.
00:44:18.920
When people do frontside piggybacks, that's kind of like-
00:44:24.200
Hey, that's when I quit playing tennis in junior high school, I'll tell you.
00:44:27.100
But listen, you gotta be strong enough to do that.
00:44:34.520
You could not do a frontside piggyback with me.
00:44:37.000
When we finish this, you know, I'm jumping on the front.
00:44:41.560
And anybody that can draw a picture of Timothy and me involved in frontside piggybacking,
00:44:47.420
I'll buy it from you, and we'll donate $1,000 to a charity of your choice.
00:45:08.080
No, I'm going to be like that, and then I'll suplex you on that.
00:45:15.380
You know, this is the holidays in America in 2024.
00:45:21.540
I think it does remind me a little bit to slow down, kind of.
00:45:24.960
You know, which is nice, because life gets going pretty fast a lot of times.
00:45:37.020
I'm more of, sometimes a little more Mrs. Claus.
00:45:47.400
What are you going to do for, are you going to go away or anything?
00:45:48.680
Yeah, I'm going to go to Louisiana and see some family, and then I might try to take
00:45:56.840
I'm going to be here, because I've been all over the place.
00:45:59.660
Then I go to London, and then do all this promo for the movie.
00:46:04.920
Well, it's coming out on Christmas, so I'm going every day, you know?
00:46:08.700
That's why, you know, that's why, shit, man, I'm trying to go as hard as possible.
00:46:13.440
And, you know, and then fucking come back here and be with my family, be with my new
00:46:27.660
I don't even think, I think my sister's kept her offline.
00:46:30.160
You know, my sister lives in a, sort of like a, she's with a group of people in like a forest
00:46:51.480
Let's give her a French, French coupon, French coupon.
00:47:04.680
Beautiful property and they don't want people just coming and, you know, not, you know.
00:47:08.040
Just milling around for 40 bucks a month property tax.
00:47:10.040
I'm in that age now where I'll chat GBT, like, one of the most attractive low property
00:47:19.440
One of them was my neighborhood growing up, dude.
00:47:23.680
My mom paid in cash, dude, right out of her purse.
00:47:47.800
Mitchell-Lama is, like, there's, like, two, to my understanding, there's two versions of,
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That means you're paying, like, under 800 bucks.
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00:48:07.420
You're just talking about Alphabet City, basically.
00:48:13.460
I like, I mean, yeah, it's definitely fascinating.
00:48:17.900
I've just stayed there for, like, maybe three months of the most.
00:48:21.840
If I get a wife and she lives there, I'll stay.
00:48:24.060
What's the ideal, you know, what does she look like both inside and out?
00:48:27.320
Um, well, she looks like, probably looks like a nice lady, I think.
00:48:36.040
Probably, maybe played volleyball, maybe didn't.
00:48:52.520
Like, you can't, you know, unless you're just, something's wrong with you and there's
00:49:01.860
Ooh, I hope she can, but I might try to be some kind of pervert or whatever, you know,
00:49:06.460
but I wouldn't mind seeing one every now and then, especially if it's holidays or whatever
00:49:09.320
and she wants to, you know, pop off a damn bee handspring or something before everybody
00:49:18.240
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So yeah, so I think, yeah, it's like, I just don't, you know, I think more will be revealed
00:53:50.460
about who the lady could be, but I'm also just being more open to it.
00:53:54.960
You know, it's like, you got to be open to that to get a wife, to be like, oh, I'm going
00:53:57.780
to get a, you know, I'm going to have a wife and be with the wife.
00:54:02.320
You got to set the, you got to set your life up.
00:54:04.420
And how are you going to get divorced if you don't get married?
00:54:10.140
Is your, is your, is your home, you know, wifeable?
00:54:13.540
Not current, uh, is there like shit everywhere when you walk in?
00:54:23.940
There's a lady that I don't even know who has sent me a box of Christmas ornaments for
00:54:30.520
And it's got a little mic and a camera in there.
00:54:42.140
Or it's just a movie about, it's about somebody who used to love somebody and they're watching
00:54:46.700
And they send them this random box and the people put it on their tree they don't know.
00:55:00.360
Well, we're supposed to do Christmas caroling this year with a couple fellows from the gym,
00:55:07.860
And we just hired a cool brother over there in Nashville to help us learn some of the lyrics.
00:55:15.660
There's all brothers going, so you gotta respect the culture, man.
00:55:33.960
Matchstick Men is one of my favorite movies ever.
00:55:52.940
Her real name's Suze Rotolo in real life, but the real Bob Dylan was still very protective over her.
00:56:01.060
And, uh, you know, just, I think he felt protective over her legacy in some way.
00:56:09.860
The love triangle is, is sort of, uh, one of the big, you know, like we do these Q&As for the movie now.
00:56:15.820
People will say, was Bob, was his behavior towards the, the people that he was in a relationship with in his life, you know, was, it's definitely complicated.
00:56:24.680
But my answer is always, he was, he was focused on his art first and foremost.
00:56:27.720
Also, this movie's about people in their early twenties.
00:56:29.680
You don't really have life figured out, especially in relationship then.
00:56:34.360
So he was kind of between the, these, these two women in the movie and Joan Baez is a musician and artist, ambitious the way Bob would have been.
00:56:42.000
And then Sylvie's really the more grounded character.
00:56:44.280
I think what Elle Fanning does in the movie is incredible.
00:56:46.100
You kind of see the movie through her eyes because she's not, she's not one of these famous musicians.
00:56:49.940
She's really just a real person and, uh, is, you know, deeply affected.
00:56:54.320
She was very affected by Dylan and her character was.
00:56:58.760
And the things that, well, she was, she's the only person in the movie that doesn't have a transactional relationship with him.
00:57:09.060
You know, I never talked to Bob Dylan, but I feel like that's why I think he's still fond of that relationship and private about it.
00:57:13.900
Cause if maybe the rest of his life could be confusing, I'm not, I don't want to speak for him, but confusing about like who's being genuine with me and who's not.
00:57:27.520
I, yeah, I found like, um, when I was watching it, yeah, you're kind of rooting.
00:57:33.460
It's weird because who you're rooting for changes almost from scene to scene in the movie.
00:57:38.260
You know, no one's like a great, uh, besides Elle Fanning, everyone comes off a little real.
00:57:45.340
You know, flawed, but like in a human way, flawed in a human way and a little, especially in your early twenties, man, you're trying to figure out your life.
00:57:57.520
I'm a new Orleans saints fan, but I was not, uh, I was not the, you're at the game.
00:58:02.820
I mean, I had on maybe a, you know, I might've had on a Drew Brees jersey on your 16th Miller light.
00:58:14.960
How do you even get, start to get things figured out?
00:58:17.660
Um, but that's one thing that I liked about it.
00:58:19.620
I like seeing the different, and I liked that there was like, okay, what's this relationship
00:58:24.080
What's this relationship like over here going to happen?
00:58:26.180
And then just seeing like, I did get a better idea of like, oh, okay.
00:58:29.940
Bob Dylan was just kind of like affected dude that he kind of was maybe better than he thought
00:58:42.680
It was just all so confusing, you know, like, and I think it was confusing to him.
00:58:46.340
And it was like, it was, it was, it was just a lot going on and he seemed like a unique
00:58:51.660
person and probably like a secretly sensitive guy.
00:58:54.700
And so for all those things to happen, you know, so quick to him and then for him to try
00:59:02.960
And that's something I could relate to, not, not in the relationships necessarily in my
00:59:05.280
life, but you know, you feel like your career gets going.
00:59:08.560
And you want to protect your energy and, and, but you still want to have close, you know,
00:59:16.440
And, but at first it's very, it's a hard thing to navigate, particularly if you want to keep
00:59:20.520
writing, you keep wanting to like Bob Dylan, you know, and like you said, he was genuinely
00:59:24.000
He had a gift from God at that point in his career.
00:59:27.980
He's like, I feel like God was writing through me.
00:59:30.400
And he says in the interview, I can't do it anymore.
00:59:32.160
He almost says it like, like, uh, no, he misses it.
00:59:35.920
It's a beautiful moment in this Ed Bradley interview.
00:59:40.080
I don't know how those words were coming to me.
00:59:43.460
And I feel like musicians, even more than actors, I feel like an actor,
00:59:46.220
like into your thirties and forties and fifties, as your face ages, you can keep doing great
00:59:50.500
work and the gravitas of your life lives on your face.
00:59:55.260
And so the more you learn in life, the more abilities you're going to have.
01:00:00.080
And I feel like as a musician, you can still do it, still do great shit, but it's really
01:00:05.560
Cause you have to do all that touring and stuff as well.
01:00:16.220
I'm like, fuck, they're going to say my name out loud.
01:00:19.100
And then as opposed to a rock star, I fucking sit in a chair.
01:00:24.320
And I sit down and I try to give poised answers.
01:00:26.900
And just make sure your posture is okay the whole time.
01:00:33.840
Cause I'll be backstage and it's, you hear the crowd.
01:00:46.440
It's like, it's very anti, uh, I don't know what the word is, but somebody else probably
01:00:55.420
I think it was, I do think that it was interesting if you frame it up, like this is what it is.
01:00:59.880
It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a few years in a man's life that was a very interesting
01:01:04.120
man who's probably written so many songs that some young people don't even know that he
01:01:08.960
I was listening and I was like, no way he wrote that.
01:01:11.160
And like, um, just some relationships that he had with other artists that you may not
01:01:15.580
And sort of the first guy for me in American pop culture that said, I'm going to do whatever
01:01:22.220
Like every artist through the last 30, 40, 50 years that, uh, a lot of whom you can't
01:01:27.520
shout out cause they, they've basically, they've basically burned so many bridges.
01:01:34.660
He just was fired up about his art and I hope that it doesn't sound corny.
01:01:39.320
Yeah, but it doesn't sound corny cause he really didn't give a fuck.
01:01:41.380
And it's, uh, that to me was really refreshing to work on.
01:01:44.700
You know, now we live in a time where it's not only, not only is it hard to be rebellious
01:01:48.300
about your art, but it's as much about the Coliseum's reaction.
01:01:51.100
You know, you think about a clip you like online or, or, uh, something you like or
01:01:54.980
The first thing you do is you go to the comments.
01:01:56.060
It's as much about how people are reacting, you know what I'm saying?
01:02:01.420
Um, so in some ways it's harder now, it's kind of harder now because not only do you
01:02:04.840
have to manage what you present, but do you have to manage also how, what, I don't
01:02:10.180
No, no, but yeah, I was just trying to say, and also to avoid that, that's kind of what
01:02:15.200
I'm just, you just gotta like, you have to bury your head so far, even like the pictures
01:02:18.760
from the premiere, I'm just like, you know, I just try to put the shutters on because
01:02:24.100
Oh, looking at all your stuff and looking at that?
01:02:29.020
No, we're supposed to be, you know, like gathering nuts and berries.
01:02:34.120
Yeah, well, no, they had that first guy, Narcissus or whatever, looked in the river and saw
01:02:38.520
And then he's like, hey, where are the ladies at or whatever?
01:02:41.080
And you're like, whoa, dude, what are you talking about?
01:02:52.200
We have 17 people and our elder is fucking suffering.
01:02:55.420
Like you're over here like trying to start Clairol or whatever.
01:03:01.160
Yeah, it's like just a bunch of Dior moisturizer.
01:03:10.420
Stop working on your Raya profile and fucking help us with the fire we need to put out in
01:03:24.500
What about other, because you can only do so many biopics too.
01:03:33.700
I burned a biopic and I got to go back in three months and I got to check if it's still
01:03:38.980
I can only do so many, especially like music ones.
01:03:49.240
Why do you sit with him and just talk the whole time?
01:03:53.560
No, I mean, well, I'm trying to think of ones you could do.
01:03:56.320
Um, you could do, um, I don't know what I could do.
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Maybe you could do a Brad Pitt biopic, you know what I'm saying?
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Maybe if like, uh, maybe a Brad pick like was stranded somewhere, like, you know, maybe
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No, but you could, um, you could do, would you ever do Mabu?
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Cause you know, I used to, I used to, uh, well, you know, there's two ways you could
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He could be a dirt ball, but I like, uh, I like some of his energy, dude.
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I'm kind of like, he reminds me of like how you need Eminem was just unique in his time
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If he wasn't killing it, we weren't talking, we wouldn't be talking about him.
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Oh, I think he's just, he's, he's definitely super entertaining.
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And he started that, um, conference, con, con, uh, conservation fund for the, for that,
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Um, but what are that, or maybe Abraham Lincoln's son or whatever?
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What was his, uh, born with a cleft lip and palate.
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I'll work with Tim Monick on it, you know, and hopefully there's no strike.
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And imagine his father gave some of the greatest speeches and here he is.
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And he has this kind of like a little bit of a, um, like a disfigurement or some impairment.
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To say something as important that my father said.
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You caught a Frisbee that was dirty and you were down for two months.
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On April 14th, 1865, Tad went to Grover's Theater to play Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp while
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his parents attended the performance of Tom Taylor's play Our American Cousin at Ford Theater.
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After the assassination, Mary, Robert, and Tad lived together in Chicago.
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I think I could see you playing a Jim Carrey one day, too.
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He, uh, have you seen his, um, have you seen his, uh, he went to some fashion event in
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It's the biggest not give a fuck interview of all time.
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If we have enough time, we should add 20 minutes to this anyway, if we can't.
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This is the first time I've run in to Jim Carrey.
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Uh, I just, uh, you know, there's no meaning to any of this.
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So I, uh, I wanted to find the most meaningless thing that I could come to and join.
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I mean, you gotta admit it's completely meaningless.
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Well, they say they're celebrating icons inside.
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Boy, that is just the absolute lowest aiming, you know, possibility that we could come up
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I don't believe that you exist, but there is a wonderful fragrance in the air.
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You don't believe certain icons have a knowledge.
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Even when she doesn't exist, he's still trying to flirt.
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That would be an interesting guy to play, because that's really cool.
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That's a cool scene to play, if you could do that.
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And he had a show called In Living Color before that, that was like Jamie Foxx was on it.
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But it's just interesting to get all the art out of your system, you know?
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I think that's kind of what he, I think that's what he feels like.
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I saw an interview with him today, Sonic the Hedgehog.
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Because when Bruce Almighty was coming on, I mean, really, he was like the biggest, uh.
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You feel like you have to be like, because you're kind of like the, the, the, the, it
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And I know it's like, do you, how do you, and a lot of that is a lot of times curtailed
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Like you have a, like, I thought you'd come with like in a tank or something.
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So definitely, um, kind of, I guess, maybe against what I was thinking, which doesn't
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Um, but do you worry about how do you still be yourself and find yourself at a time when
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you could be so maneuvered by, um, so many bigger.
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Listen, man, not to bring it back to the movie, but that's where Bob Dylan's so influential.
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And what's interesting about the movie industry instead of like, as opposed to the music industry,
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the music industry, you write your own music, you know, and it's direct to the consumer in
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some sense, like you do whatever the fuck you want.
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And if people are vibing with it, you'll know and whatever.
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In the movie industry, you do kind of have to, there, you, you gotta be reliable.
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You know, a musician, you show up whenever you want.
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They could be rockstar, show up four hours late.
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If you're three hours late to a movie, they got to call insurance.
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So there's a part of the job that's obedient in a sense, but the best art and the best shit
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we see is stuff that, you know, people showed up for people showed up, but, but also where
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they, they broke rules in a sense, you know, I was just talking to, you know, yeah.
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And, and, and, and so it's a fine line and I look at it like this, this is my inner Tom
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Cruz where I want movies to be seen and I don't want to, I don't want to live an unobedient
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life, but I also want at a time where maybe Hollywood or movie makers got a perception
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of like, um, sometimes being out of touch or something or definitely like awards type
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I want, in all the movies I work on, that's why I did Dune.
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And I'm proud that those movies, I know I'm not supposed to pat myself on the back, but
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I'm, those movies were big, you know, like in the movie industry or the movie business,
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brick and mortar theaters, they don't, they don't do the business they once did.
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Some of that's inevitable because of streaming, but I want to put my best foot forward.
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You gotta, you gotta give back to the industry that gave to you.
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And that's why I'm, that's why I'm here that, you know, you know, um, otherwise that's
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why you can't be the reclusive figure that Bob Dylan or Daniel Day-Lewis or these guys
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were because the, the, the, it's not about the bottom line, but the, the attention isn't
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I hope this doesn't sound like too inside baseball or whatever.
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I'll just, you know, you're like a real thinker, you know?
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So it's not like you're going to give some answer that isn't traveling through your thoughts
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And then also I had a full ass real life before my career took off, like in the East village
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So, um, not that my life isn't real now, but like obviously on these press stores and stuff,
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the days are micromanaged in some way, but man.
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That's another thing I say, like as a musician or as a pop star, whatever, your music can
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Like it could be about, Hey, I'm driving this car and, uh, this is the crazy lifestyle
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of, but if you're an actor, if you, if you lose your sense of humanity, if you lose your
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stink, for lack of a better word, people will see that on screen.
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That's why the safety movie I just did, man, he put me, he put me through the ringer.
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And I felt like, I felt like he was testing me early on.
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So when somebody's like, so a director can kind of put you through some fucking shit?
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And good, and good time, you know, good time with Robert Pattinson.
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I'm saving Robert Pattinson for after, for later.
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Um, but, um, you know, like early on we had stuff that could have been stunt guys on this
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And part of me was like, this feels like a test, you know?
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And then I, now I feel like I've emerged from the other side with no broken bones or whatever.
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But, and, and, and Josh, I know I'm supposed to be talking about the Bob Dylan movie, but
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Like, and seriously, like Josh Safdie, he's like the modern day Scorsese.
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You ever see, um, you saw the Nathan Fielder show with Emma Stone on Showtime?
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Because he's a, that guy, that, that uncut Jim's is so good.
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And what was the biggest journey through the, um, through the, um, unknown?
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What was the biggest journey through a complete unknown on Christmas day?
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It's kind of, you know, the biggest, it's only on Christmas.
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Um, biggest journey was the music and the voice.
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And also I've never had my phone off the entire movie.
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I had three months to play this guy and then the rest of my life I never get to play him
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Also, you're never supposed to say you're competitive, but I want, you know, there's
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This little misconception about actors too and acting, you can have a cushy job on a
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If you don't give a fuck about your work, it could be a great lifestyle, right?
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You're making like high six figures, maybe low seven figures and you're just showing
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If you give a fuck about what you're doing, these are, these are long ass days.
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These are 14 hour days, six days a week sometimes, you know, three months.
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Look, I know, I know people got it way harder, but I want to feel that grit.
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I fucking really, I feel like I'm the hardest working man.
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On Marty Supreme, I'm wearing contacts cause he wanted my eyes to be little.
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So he gives me real glasses that fuck my eyes up and I'm wearing contacts underneath to offset
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And my vision was, my vision was basically fucked up until a day ago.
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Every time I took these glasses off, my, my vision was skewed.
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You're like the Forrest Gump of sight or whatever.
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Dude, Forrest Gump is a, we had the Forrest Gump ping pong coaches.
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You know, we trained for three hours and then she said, let's play for real.
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Did you have to, so your phone was off for that long?
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So you just locked in and what would you do to just go to, do you sleep on set or what
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I sleep on set and you know, method acting, that gets like a bad rap.
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People think it's just like a person being a prick and obliging everyone around them to
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So the thing I came up with, I call it, dude, that's just everybody's stepdad as well.
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But, uh, but, uh, I call it, I call it method energy because, um, you know, you, you
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know, uh, you'd shit on me too if I'm coming off like a dick, but, um, you know, um, I just
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tried to, no cell phones, nothing that reminds you of the present.
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Um, and try to treat it like Bob Dylan as much as possible, especially if you're playing
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He didn't feel like an icon when he was himself.
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So if you talk to too many people that, uh, you gotta avoid earworms.
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Oh, like if somebody put something in your head that's, that says in there.
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Pete Seeger in the movie, but he's like, Edward Norton is a little bit his character in the
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If you ever saw that, he's like a very confident, opinionated actor.
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So I would kind of have to, you know, and then he caught me watching rounders one day
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If you're watching another movie, it's a movie that some guys, he caught me in the hair
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And I was like, all right, now, now we're going to talk.
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I've been out of my comfort zone since I was born.
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You know, the code they give you in high school to your locker.
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I remember going up to my comfort zone and being like, oh, I don't think this is it.
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What's the most comfortable you've ever felt in your life?
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Probably after like a sauna and ice bath type of thing.
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I'll fricking just, I'll lay in a polar bear's ass, brother.
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I don't know what he, but he said it was nothing up there.
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There's not even like, you can't be like, hey, let's go somewhere.
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Where does he get, where does he get the money?
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He just has a lot of just expendable income to be that guy, you know?
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That's the other thing, like, where I want to be humble about putting movies out there.
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You're like, yeah, and you got to convince someone to see a complete unknown on Christmas
01:19:53.100
Day and take the $15 or $20 or whatever the fuck it is now.
01:19:56.920
And instead of watching, you know, Mr. Beast in the Arctic.
01:20:00.780
Well, Mr. Beast has a show actually that comes out right before that, if like a week before,
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but he was just, we were talking about it the other day.
01:20:09.820
But one thing that's great about your movie is that, first of all, you just get, you
01:20:13.580
also just, in addition to whatever's going on with the movie, you get to hear like
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Get a look at him before something happens to him.
01:20:39.520
Yeah, we had Bernie Sanders on and he was saying that, he said Pete Seeger was one of his favorite
01:20:43.580
Scoot McNary could play Bernie Sanders in a biopic.
01:20:47.940
Dude, you could play Ronald Reagan's son, Ricky Reagan or whatever.
01:21:06.220
Yeah, and you also forget about like what, yeah, I mean, that's another thing about the
01:21:09.300
You see the challenge of Bob Dylan to like take on like music and culture.
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There's this whole other cultural thing that's kind of happening in the background, like on
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No, another thing, another misconception about movies, like as opposed to the academic year,
01:21:36.700
You're doing 14 hour days and you go off a cliff and it's done.
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You know, in other words, you don't relax towards the end.
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Like, you know, we were doing a very important scene and it was done forever, you know?
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This was like, this was like, this was as important to me as you going to the parking
01:21:56.240
lot and spying on the, on the, on the swim team of Lipscomb College.
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Do you think you would have done it more justice five years earlier?
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Also, because I had the experience in my life where I would do interviews and, you know,
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it's a scary time to come up with the internet and stuff.
01:22:23.300
And Bob Dylan, his early press conferences, he was. . . .
01:22:28.620
And I thought there was something really inspiring about that.
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Not, not that I ever wanted to be like that, but I just thought it was so different than
01:22:42.520
Yeah, but B, God forbid, you know, you don't want to be. . .
01:22:47.380
These early press conferences, you know, if, if you're tremendously bored and not watching
01:22:51.600
Mr. B stuff, watch the, the, the early Bob Dylan San Francisco press conferences.
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So anyway, five years working on it, I got a better sense on the other side of it.
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Oh, this is why he would have carried himself like that.
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You know, he had some wherewithal I didn't have in his early 20s where somebody said,
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He goes, basically, I didn't want to tell anyone.
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You know, me, maybe because, uh, whatever, the acting bone.
01:23:13.040
And you, you, you're so desperate for that pat on your back.
01:23:19.740
I just want to, yeah, because, and you get more experience that you can put into something
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Like, you can keep doing it for a long time, you know?
01:23:36.960
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
01:24:02.500
I don't think, I'm trying to think who your music biopic would be still.
01:24:25.900
Chet has a new country album that's going to come out this year, too, I think.
01:24:31.800
Now, that would be, I would just do it for the head.
01:24:39.920
I'm trying to think if there's anything else that we want to ask or anything else that
01:25:01.880
I go walk over there and sometimes I would go for that and I would just end up getting
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a bunch of vapes and just sitting over in my car.
01:25:07.180
But, um, I, uh, yeah, I would get, I just, sometimes I forget to wash my plant, I forget
01:25:13.740
And then I get home and it's been like a month or something.
01:25:19.840
I'll be like, your mother, your mother left us.
01:25:24.780
To the plants, I'll just make, I'll like blame it on their like imaginary mother or
01:25:35.460
I'm giving them the water, but it would have been, it'd have been watered every day if their
01:25:40.380
Oh, so you're bringing out the resentment on the plants.
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I feel like the next time we talk, if you have me back on, I feel like you're going to be a year
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and a half into a beautiful marriage and a recent father and, and you will have, you
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If the family comes with that and that's what it takes, I'll do it.
01:26:20.600
Thanks for the movie about the drug, about, um, the young man struggling with drugs.
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Uh, and just thanks for sharing like what it takes, the commitment that it does take.
01:26:30.560
I do feel that the commitment that it really takes if you really want to take this opportunity
01:26:35.180
and make the most of it in your life, you know?
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Like you're doing, I see you doing, you know, you, you know, so, um, you just got to go
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You can go watch it in the theaters with your family over the holidays.
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I'm just falling on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.