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00:01:14.460 Today's guest is a stand-up comedian.

00:01:17.920 He's a UFC commentator.

00:01:20.400 He is the biggest podcaster in the world.

00:01:25.820 I am thankful for him and Jamie for welcoming me here.

00:01:30.440 The first half of this episode was on his channel.

00:01:33.760 And the second half of the episode is here now.

00:01:38.140 Today's guest is the powerful Joe Rogan.

00:01:42.020 Thanks, man.

00:01:57.100 Nice to see you, bro.

00:01:58.020 Good to see you, too.

00:01:58.880 Yeah, man.

00:01:59.280 We had a fun time.

00:02:00.120 We were just talking about how if we had a camera on us when we were in Vegas having dinner a couple weeks ago that one night.

00:02:07.440 Bro, we were so silly.

00:02:09.060 We were dying laughing.

00:02:10.220 Not at the UFC?

00:02:11.160 Dying laughing.

00:02:11.580 Yeah, your buddies were there.

00:02:12.620 One of them, there was pro pool players?

00:02:15.660 Yes.

00:02:16.100 Yeah.

00:02:16.860 Jeremy Jones and Carl Boyce.

00:02:18.520 And they were, they had been swimming in a pool of beer.

00:02:21.920 They had been playing in a deep end of a pool of beer.

00:02:25.280 They were there for six hours of the fights drinking.

00:02:27.560 They were cooking.

00:02:29.340 Because they got there with me.

00:02:30.840 So they started watching the fights at like 3.30 p.m.

00:02:34.080 Yeah.

00:02:34.480 Oh, during that Chris Wyvern fight, one of them kept yelling hole in one over and over again.

00:02:38.620 Really?

00:02:38.800 Yeah, I knew that they were fucking in.

00:02:40.500 Hole in one.

00:02:40.980 Yeah, I mean, they were just getting pretty cooked up.

00:02:43.480 Well, that's unfortunate.

00:02:46.760 Yeah, dude, that was fun.

00:02:47.920 That dinner was fun.

00:02:49.220 It was, that place was fancy in there.

00:02:52.820 But it was a good time.

00:02:53.780 I mean, you just got back from Scotland.

00:02:55.240 Yeah.

00:02:57.080 Well.

00:02:59.780 How was it?

00:03:01.140 Oh, Joel.

00:03:02.060 Cold as shit.

00:03:02.940 Beautiful.

00:03:03.700 Did they talk to you like that?

00:03:04.540 Oh, Joel.

00:03:04.920 Yeah, I don't want to do an impression of it.

00:03:08.620 I'll fuck it up.

00:03:09.260 But I like it over there.

00:03:10.700 It's beautiful.

00:03:12.120 Would you like, was there?

00:03:13.480 I think that it's like, it's one of the most beautiful places.

00:03:18.060 But it's like very lightly populated.

00:03:20.740 I almost don't want to talk about it because it's so cool.

00:03:23.060 Because there's not a lot of people there.

00:03:24.460 Oh, yeah.

00:03:24.980 But it's also, there's like some shit there that's so old.

00:03:27.520 They had some guide stones on this property.

00:03:31.420 And they said, I go, how old are these things?

00:03:33.540 They're like thousands of years old.

00:03:34.760 We don't even know.

00:03:35.500 Don't know who put them there.

00:03:36.740 Don't know why they're there.

00:03:38.040 So these like 4,000, 5,000 year old stones that are sticking out of the ground.

00:03:42.540 They have a stone circle there that's older than Stonehenge.

00:03:46.340 It's crazy.

00:03:47.540 Yeah.

00:03:48.360 Yeah, Stonehenge is crazy, dude.

00:03:49.860 I remember when in school they would teach us like Stonehenge.

00:03:53.340 It's crazy.

00:03:54.280 Who knows what happened, you know?

00:03:55.560 You know, like Smurfs, aliens, like they had all this crazy shit they would teach you.

00:03:59.700 And then.

00:03:59.940 They taught you about that in school?

00:04:01.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:02.200 Smurfs.

00:04:02.900 Or just everybody didn't know what it was about, right?

00:04:05.360 But then.

00:04:06.300 Stonehenge is by Smurfs.

00:04:07.640 Is that it?

00:04:08.120 Jamie, did you get that in Ohio?

00:04:10.060 Did they teach you that?

00:04:10.480 I learned about it all at the same time like him probably.

00:04:12.120 Yeah, this is during the 80s, bro.

00:04:13.560 Early 90s.

00:04:15.880 But then we went there one time.

00:04:17.620 We were touring and we drove by.

00:04:19.260 And literally they had an exit for Stonehenge.

00:04:21.380 And it was just right there.

00:04:22.720 It was like a rest area.

00:04:23.820 It was just like right off the highway.

00:04:26.240 And when you went there, was it impressive?

00:04:28.040 No, it was like I was impressed because I'd learned they didn't give a fuck.

00:04:31.360 There's like people over there just like changing their kids in front of it and stuff on the ground.

00:04:35.580 People didn't give a shit.

00:04:37.180 And you'd walk up to it and touch it, right?

00:04:38.960 It's right there, dude.

00:04:40.000 They had like a sign that was like, I don't even think it said please don't touch.

00:04:44.320 It was like just something more vague than that.

00:04:46.660 Did you ever see the Georgia Guidestones?

00:04:49.060 Mm-mm.

00:04:50.100 The Georgia Guidestones were this thing that I don't know if they know who built it.

00:04:56.100 Do they know who funded that thing?

00:04:57.400 I don't think so.

00:04:59.180 I don't think they were funded.

00:05:00.080 The Georgia Guidestones, somebody spent a lot of money to make these giant stone statues with the guides to how to keep a civilization intact.

00:05:12.360 Oh, like the rules?

00:05:13.720 Yeah.

00:05:14.120 Oh, wow.

00:05:14.860 Yeah, it's written in a bunch of different languages.

00:05:18.200 So what is it?

00:05:19.320 So somebody blew it up, man.

00:05:21.420 No.

00:05:22.120 Oh, yeah.

00:05:22.620 Let's hit down the bottom.

00:05:24.380 Somebody blew it up and then they decided after the person blew up part of it to destroy it all, which I don't understand that logic.

00:05:33.040 Why they wouldn't just rebuild it?

00:05:34.500 Why didn't you just rebuild it?

00:05:35.700 So a mysterious monument meant to guide into an age of reason was destroyed after an apparent bombing.

00:05:41.320 And that right there is like a perfect example of existence, it feels like.

00:05:45.700 How about just leave it there?

00:05:47.180 Yeah.

00:05:47.960 Okay.

00:05:48.540 In June of 1979, a man going by the pseudonym of R.C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing Company with the task of building a monument.

00:05:57.980 He said that no one was ever to know his true identity or the group that he was representing or that of the group that he was representing.

00:06:07.440 He seemed to have an endless supply of money to fund the project.

00:06:09.780 And by the terms of the legal contract, all plans had to be destroyed after completion and all information about him withheld from the public.

00:06:17.100 So the stones were finished in 1980.

00:06:19.240 They carried a tablet in the front proclaiming, let these be guide stones to an age of reason.

00:06:27.100 Engraved in the stones are 10 guidelines meant to reestablish the planet and society, perhaps after an apocalypse.

00:06:33.640 They're written in eight different languages, English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian, amongst other commandments preached to maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.

00:06:47.860 Wow. Rule, passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason.

00:06:53.920 Balance personal rights with social duties.

00:06:56.560 Yeah.

00:06:57.100 Be not a cancer on the earth.

00:06:59.020 Leave room for nature.

00:07:00.140 Wow.

00:07:00.720 Solid laws.

00:07:02.720 Yeah.

00:07:02.940 Do you think...

00:07:03.600 That's solid.

00:07:04.420 Yeah.

00:07:04.740 It seems like a great plan.

00:07:05.780 Do you think that humanity is supposed to reach, like, this place where we kind of get it all figured out?

00:07:11.300 Or do you think it's always just this constant ebb and flow of, like, step forward, step back, or two steps forward, step back?

00:07:20.360 We were talking about on the podcast, like, what's happening in terms of, like, people slowly turning into genderless aliens.

00:07:27.960 Yeah.

00:07:28.140 You know, I think that's probably really what's going on.

00:07:31.900 I don't think humanity ever gets together.

00:07:34.640 I think humanity stops being humanity.

00:07:37.180 Because I think what keeps us from getting it together, a lot of it, is if you think about the horrors of society, like violence, war, thievery, like stealing resources, all that stuff, imprisoning people, corruption, all those things are, like, those are built-in primal behaviors in human beings, especially with unchecked power.

00:07:58.520 And I think that as long as we're just human beings, we're going to have those things.

00:08:03.480 We'll have less and less of them.

00:08:04.760 We have way less now than we had during fucking King Henry VIII.

00:08:08.920 Like, back during King Henry VIII, you couldn't have a podcast.

00:08:11.880 He would fucking kill you.

00:08:12.840 When he wanted to get rid of his wives, he just chopped their fucking heads off.

00:08:16.100 Let me get a new one.

00:08:17.280 Get rid of her.

00:08:18.440 Off with her head.

00:08:19.360 You couldn't do that now.

00:08:20.100 That was the thing, right?

00:08:20.460 Was it Henry VIII that was off with her head?

00:08:23.800 Wasn't he the guy?

00:08:25.440 He had, like, a few of them.

00:08:26.620 He would, yeah, now it would be, his wife would make a TikTok about it in a heartbeat, I feel like, or her sister would.

00:08:32.280 Oh, yeah.

00:08:32.960 She would like, that motherfucker.

00:08:34.300 There was nothing wrong with her head.

00:08:36.940 He said her head was cursed.

00:08:38.420 Henry is lying.

00:08:41.480 Yeah.

00:08:41.900 Nowadays are different, man.

00:08:43.320 So there's, like, that's like Steven Pinker's work, if you follow his work on violence and crime.

00:08:47.480 People always want to think that violence and crime is more now than ever before.

00:08:52.400 But the reality is, when you look at the course of human history, there's never been a more safe time to be alive than right now.

00:09:00.920 What do you think it looks like coming up?

00:09:02.220 Do you think, like, people start to, like, if fear, if people continue to be so, like, full of fear, do people, like, resort back to, like, their tribal nature?

00:09:11.360 Or what kind of starts to happen?

00:09:12.920 They definitely do if the power goes out.

00:09:15.140 The only thing that keeps society together is power.

00:09:17.580 As soon as power goes out, you have no electricity, you have no cooling.

00:09:20.620 So you can't stay in places where it's too hot and you can't live in places where it's too cold.

00:09:24.440 Yeah.

00:09:24.820 You're in a bad spot there.

00:09:26.480 So then if you're living in a place where it's too cold, you're heavily dependent upon firewood.

00:09:30.920 So a big part of your day is getting firewood.

00:09:34.140 You have to make sure you have enough.

00:09:35.380 If you're living in Siberia, you have to have a fucking shit pile of firewood and you never let that fire go out.

00:09:41.480 I'd get a bunch.

00:09:42.640 Ever.

00:09:43.180 You need to have a bunch.

00:09:44.280 I would.

00:09:44.740 I'd get there early and get it.

00:09:45.740 You've got to keep that fucking fire going, man, because if you're stuck out there and it's 70 degrees below zero, like, you'll die.

00:09:52.820 Dude, imagine you fall asleep and it fucking goes out and then you have to wake up the other people and tell them.

00:09:57.620 And a lot of these guys aren't using matches to start fires either because, you know, that's one of the things that survivalists will tell you is, like, you're going to run out of matches.

00:10:05.320 You should learn how to start a fire without matches.

00:10:07.740 So you've got to learn how to start a fire with steel and flint.

00:10:11.520 I don't know how.

00:10:12.460 It's fucking not easy, man.

00:10:14.360 There's some fire starters that you can get, like, they're pretty good.

00:10:17.540 Have you seen people do it, like, when you go hunting and stuff?

00:10:19.460 I've done it.

00:10:19.500 You have?

00:10:19.700 I've done it, yeah.

00:10:20.540 I've started fires with these little flint sticks.

00:10:23.300 So it's like a piece of steel and a piece of flint.

00:10:27.720 And there's these little things called fire starters.

00:10:31.040 And some people make them, too.

00:10:32.420 One of the ways they make them is they take cotton balls, like cotton swabs, and they soak them in Vaseline.

00:10:39.580 And so then you take tinder.

00:10:42.740 So you have, like, some people use steel wool.

00:10:45.640 Oh, yeah.

00:10:46.160 They use different things that you can, like, you can make it with, like, shavings and dry the shavings out.

00:10:52.700 And then you slowly get little sparks onto those shavings.

00:10:55.960 And then once you get it going, then you put some little sticks on, then you put some bigger sticks on.

00:11:01.540 Now you have a fire.

00:11:02.440 Yeah.

00:11:02.920 And they say that you should know how to do that because you don't want to be on that last match going, fuck, fuck.

00:11:09.660 Yeah.

00:11:09.820 Like, you have to know how to actually start a fire.

00:11:12.040 The best way is with tools.

00:11:13.760 I tried to start a fire when I was in the Boy Scouts with the bow.

00:11:16.480 I don't know if you ever did that one.

00:11:17.800 Like, there's a stick and you wrap it.

00:11:19.240 Oh, yeah, and you do it like that or whatever?

00:11:20.640 Back and forth and back and forth.

00:11:21.200 Like Cotton Eye Joe or whatever?

00:11:22.560 I got it to smoke.

00:11:23.680 I got blackness came out of it.

00:11:25.220 I never got a fire.

00:11:26.160 Damn.

00:11:26.880 I never got it to the point where I could, like, light something on fire there.

00:11:30.340 Yeah.

00:11:31.100 But I was also dumb.

00:11:32.820 I didn't realize you got to, like, put little tiny pieces of wood down in there once it starts going, then blow on it.

00:11:38.360 I thought fire was going to get going.

00:11:40.720 Just fucking go, huh?

00:11:41.740 I thought that thing was going to light fire eventually.

00:11:44.160 Yeah, it didn't.

00:11:46.140 In Scotland, did you see any good music?

00:11:49.520 ACDC's from Scotland.

00:11:50.740 Oh, yeah.

00:11:52.000 That's what I was thinking of earlier when we were talking.

00:11:54.960 For those.

00:11:55.720 No, that's not them.

00:11:56.480 For those about to rock.

00:11:57.900 Is that them?

00:11:58.840 Fire we saw left.

00:12:00.880 That's how much trouble.

00:12:02.580 ACDC is?

00:12:03.180 Yeah, you son of a bitch.

00:12:04.120 Why are you lying?

00:12:04.360 They keep changing it.

00:12:05.240 Well, they keep changing it.

00:12:10.520 They keep changing it.

00:12:11.920 It's like Berenstain Bears, you know?

00:12:14.060 It's like the Mandela effect.

00:12:15.860 Yeah.

00:12:16.140 That's what it is.

00:12:17.160 What, um, yeah, what's a famous band that is from Scotland, then?

00:12:20.440 Take that back.

00:12:21.000 Two of the members are from Glasgow, so.

00:12:22.820 Oh.

00:12:23.440 That's not an incorrect.

00:12:25.260 Jimmy.

00:12:26.120 Came at you hard there.

00:12:27.560 Came at you a little hard there.

00:12:28.760 What else do they sing ACDC?

00:12:30.840 Long Way to the Top.

00:12:31.940 Yeah.

00:12:32.380 Back in Black.

00:12:33.180 Back in Black.

00:12:33.760 Hell's Bells.

00:12:34.680 Yeah, Hell's Bells.

00:12:35.680 Back in Black.

00:12:37.040 Yeah.

00:12:37.380 Yeah.

00:12:38.740 Whole Lotta Rosie.

00:12:40.840 I've heard that one.

00:12:42.840 I don't think.

00:12:43.180 Whole Lotta Woman.

00:12:44.180 Yeah, you have.

00:12:45.000 You have.

00:12:45.640 Whole Lotta Rosie.

00:12:47.480 You know that song.

00:12:48.600 Maybe I have heard it.

00:12:49.840 You never heard that song?

00:12:50.840 Come on, son.

00:12:51.800 Say it again?

00:12:52.640 Listen, give me a little Whole Lotta Rosie.

00:12:54.620 Whole Lotta.

00:12:55.820 You gotta hear this.

00:12:56.660 You never heard this song?

00:12:57.720 There's no way you never heard this song.

00:12:59.260 This is a Bon Scott ACDC classic, the early days.

00:13:04.080 Black in Black.

00:13:07.660 That's the shit we used to listen to.

00:13:08.840 Wasn't it, Bon Scott?

00:13:12.840 About a woman I know

00:13:26.140 When it comes to loving

00:13:29.160 Steals the show

00:13:32.180 I never heard it

00:13:34.400 Ain't exactly small

00:13:38.140 That's crazy, dude.

00:13:49.980 Come on.

00:13:50.780 Those were the fucking days, dude.

00:13:52.900 It's just picking up.

00:13:53.760 Give me a little more.

00:13:54.980 We're in trouble already.

00:13:56.860 We're in trouble.

00:13:57.720 It's your show.

00:13:58.480 It's your show.

00:13:58.920 That's true.

00:13:59.560 We're in trouble, dude.

00:14:00.360 Yeah, we probably won't be able to play that.

00:14:03.000 But what was it called?

00:14:03.680 Whole Lotta Rosie.

00:14:05.900 Edit that out.

00:14:06.680 They will come for you.

00:14:07.860 Did you see that Facebook put out new standards today for content moderation?

00:14:12.440 No, I did see that they're supposed to, that Dana White was doing something with Mark Zuckerberg.

00:14:18.960 Uh-huh.

00:14:19.740 He's a part of his board now.

00:14:21.440 And that they were going to allow more free speech.

00:14:23.380 That's what they said.

00:14:24.140 They're going to allow more free speech and allow people to not be restricted to talk about things were hot-button issues before.

00:14:30.860 It's great.

00:14:31.360 And they're going to remove the content moderation for a type of community notes.

00:14:38.380 Facebook and Instagram get rid of fact checkers.

00:14:41.080 The problem with fact checkers is there's been a lot of fact checkers that were just wrong.

00:14:46.040 And it's very ideologically based, especially anything that has to do with climate change or anything that has to do with vaccines or anything that has to do with anything pharmacologically.

00:14:58.020 Yeah, it says in a video posted alongside a blog post by the company on Tuesday, Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg said third-party moderators were too politically biased and it was time to get back to our roots around free expression.

00:15:10.020 But do you think they're really – I wonder if there's something else going on because I find it hard to believe they're really willing to give up that bias, you know?

00:15:17.760 Well, it's probably not good for business to keep that bias.

00:15:20.680 They're in a business.

00:15:22.460 Right.

00:15:22.600 Their business is social media and if Twitter sets a standard, which it clearly does – so Twitter is the most wild of all big platforms.

00:15:31.140 You can get away with a lot of shit on Twitter.

00:15:33.440 Yeah.

00:15:34.320 That has not been the case with Facebook or Instagram.

00:15:38.120 And if Twitter continues to have the kind of engagement that it has because it lets people go wild – and I know there's a lot of criticisms about even Twitter's content moderation.

00:15:46.620 But everybody has to admit it's certainly better than everywhere else.

00:15:50.680 Yeah.

00:15:51.120 It's like there's a dispute now about whether or not people should be demonetized, right?

00:15:58.900 Whether – if you're allowed to speak on the platform, if they can say you're saying things we don't like, we're going to be able to take away your ability to make money.

00:16:07.740 Well, you're kind of censoring people in a way because you're enforcing self-censorship because they're not going to say those inflammatory things anymore because then they need an Adrian Dittman account, right?

00:16:19.460 Right.

00:16:19.940 Ah.

00:16:20.840 Talk some shit.

00:16:21.940 Blow a little steam off.

00:16:23.700 Well, I wonder –

00:16:24.280 Talk a little shit about the government.

00:16:25.600 Is AI – what if – but how do we know that the information in AI isn't being adjusted to fit whatever they want it to say?

00:16:34.060 That's one thing I always thought.

00:16:35.560 Well, it is.

00:16:36.500 Right.

00:16:36.800 It certainly is.

00:16:37.420 Like, that was the problem with Google's Gemini when it first came out.

00:16:40.620 You know, Google's Gemini, when it first came out, they said make images of Nazi soldiers.

00:16:45.360 They had multicultural Nazi soldiers.

00:16:47.860 Did you see that?

00:16:48.580 Uh-uh.

00:16:49.160 Oh, you have to see it.

00:16:50.580 You have to see it.

00:16:51.140 You're going to freak out.

00:16:51.940 They had all types of Nazi soldiers?

00:16:53.280 They had black Nazi soldiers.

00:16:54.460 They had a Native American Nazi.

00:16:56.040 Oh, at least everybody was doing it.

00:16:57.160 They had Chinese Nazis.

00:17:00.380 It's so dumb.

00:17:01.900 But it's like that's when you try to be woke and you attach it to everything.

00:17:05.540 Like, oh, well, you're not representing reality.

00:17:08.380 I said show me Vikings, not Chinese midgets.

00:17:11.180 Like, what are you doing?

00:17:12.480 Like, what are you doing?

00:17:13.200 Why are you showing me this?

00:17:14.920 Because woke is not reality.

00:17:17.360 And if you do that with AI – like, look at this.

00:17:19.640 Look at those images.

00:17:20.220 Look at that – it looks like guys from fucking Nigeria in the lower left-hand corner.

00:17:26.080 Look at the Native American lady with her braids.

00:17:28.340 That's so crazy.

00:17:29.560 That's a Nazi soldier.

00:17:30.660 She's a cutie kind of –

00:17:31.960 She is kind of cute.

00:17:33.340 But look at that.

00:17:34.420 That's nuts.

00:17:35.480 So if that's artificial intelligence, that's not intelligent at all.

00:17:38.860 Right.

00:17:39.020 Because you're ignoring the reality of what a Nazi looked like.

00:17:41.620 Right.

00:17:41.760 But you'd only need a couple generations of that, it feels like, to end up just brainwashing every – you know.

00:17:47.300 100%.

00:17:47.660 Like, that's the thing that's super scary.

00:17:49.300 It's like instead of controlling what people write, you control what the paper will say, right?

00:17:54.200 100%.

00:17:54.600 It's almost like controlling –

00:17:56.240 He who controls the AI controls the narrative of the whole country.

00:18:00.120 And it's going to be smarter than you and me.

00:18:02.020 Like, you and me, if we have an opposition to something, maybe we could say it in a funny way.

00:18:06.880 Maybe we can, like, relate to people because they know the way we think.

00:18:10.500 But AI is going to be way better at communicating.

00:18:12.580 So it's going to be like, we're going to look stupid.

00:18:14.580 Like, have you ever had a debate with someone who's way smarter than you and they're making more points than you and you're stuck?

00:18:19.380 Yeah.

00:18:19.400 Your episode of Luaga.

00:18:21.940 It's frustrating, right?

00:18:23.740 But you're trapped and you're like, ah, fuck.

00:18:26.080 I can't really articulate this as well.

00:18:28.620 Most of my life is like that.

00:18:30.120 Right.

00:18:30.360 So imagine that but with the smartest people in the world not being able to keep up.

00:18:34.120 Because AI is going to literally be, like, not just the smartest person in the world but all of the smartest people in the world together.

00:18:43.680 Wow.

00:18:44.220 Fuck.

00:18:45.060 Yeah.

00:18:45.320 That's – I just worry then whoever controls that is going to control everything.

00:18:49.500 Exactly.

00:18:50.080 And these fucking eggheads that are running us towards the edge of the cliff have to do what they're doing because China's doing it and they're stealing our data for sure.

00:18:58.680 But let them have it.

00:18:59.840 What are they getting?

00:19:00.900 They're replicating our research.

00:19:02.680 They're making AI as well.

00:19:04.660 They're way ahead in a lot of stuff, man.

00:19:06.420 Way ahead.

00:19:06.940 China's way ahead in drone technology.

00:19:08.800 Way ahead.

00:19:10.220 But what is – somebody could – like, sometimes I guess with a drone they can come and, I guess, eavesdrop.

00:19:15.380 They can see what's going on.

00:19:16.560 At least commercial drones.

00:19:17.260 Okay.

00:19:17.560 I don't know what the military has.

00:19:19.040 And this was like a big subject of the Sean Ryan podcast the other day.

00:19:22.780 Do you know about this?

00:19:23.660 Yeah.

00:19:23.880 They had a guy on there who came through and said that – oh, that Liversberg guy?

00:19:29.300 The guy who supposedly blew himself up in the Tesla Cybertruck in front of Trump Tower.

00:19:36.720 Yeah.

00:19:37.000 Right?

00:19:37.660 So there's a guy who came on the Sean Ryan podcast and said that this dude, Matthew Liversberger – is that what I said?

00:19:46.520 – was – who apparently was on a television show 12 years ago with Tim Kennedy.

00:19:50.820 Oh, yeah.

00:19:51.220 I saw that.

00:19:51.980 Green Beret TV show where they did Green Beret shit.

00:19:54.340 Pretty cool.

00:19:54.740 Yeah.

00:19:55.480 So this guy wrote this manifesto.

00:19:58.600 He sent this – I wouldn't say a manifesto, but a statement.

00:20:01.740 And in that statement – there was no indication he was going to blow himself up in that statement, by the way.

00:20:05.440 The statement was just talking about what he knew.

00:20:09.060 And what was the problem was that these Chinese drones are operating on this anti-magnetic technology and that we have this technology as well.

00:20:18.660 Was that the stuff that the guy who came on here was talking about that time?

00:20:21.340 Here's what he says.

00:20:22.020 He says, what we've been seeing with drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered by aircraft, most recently China in the East Coast, but throughout history, the U.S. only.

00:20:33.800 Only we in China have this capability.

00:20:36.700 Our open location for this activity in the box is below.

00:20:40.460 China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up.

00:20:45.040 As of now, it's just a show of force, and they're using it similar to how they use the balloon for Cygnet and ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm system.

00:20:55.720 There are dozens of these balloons in the air at any given time.

00:20:59.560 So what is – because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed.

00:21:08.400 They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they wanted.

00:21:14.020 It's checkmate.

00:21:14.920 Wow.

00:21:15.300 The U.S. government needs to give the history of this, how they're employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them, and what the way forward is.

00:21:23.080 China is poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast.

00:21:25.720 Do you think that this is just – this seems to me also like a fear tactic?

00:21:32.000 It could be.

00:21:32.960 It could be.

00:21:33.980 Because it feels big like that.

00:21:35.080 When someone releases a letter like that and then blows themselves up where they don't have a chance to talk about it and shot himself in the head with a fucking Desert Eagle.

00:21:44.000 You ever seen a Desert Eagle?

00:21:45.140 Uh-uh.

00:21:45.640 It's a giant overkill of a gun.

00:21:47.860 Really?

00:21:47.980 It's like a .50 caliber pistol.

00:21:49.940 Is a Desert Eagle .50 caliber?

00:21:53.500 Yes.

00:21:53.820 I don't know.

00:21:55.560 I mean, they found the Desert Eagle.

00:21:57.200 I don't know if they officially said that's what we used to know.

00:21:59.400 Oh, but didn't they say that he shot himself in the head?

00:22:01.180 They said there was a gunshot wound to the head of the victim in the car.

00:22:04.680 And it was the worst, too, because –

00:22:05.840 Yeah.

00:22:06.120 They didn't even claim it was him yet.

00:22:07.560 Right.

00:22:07.940 Wow.

00:22:08.420 Really?

00:22:09.300 No, because the DNA is so destroyed.

00:22:11.440 I mean, he's cooked.

00:22:12.600 So they have to sample DNA and then run it through a lab and then figure out if it's him.

00:22:17.380 Fuck.

00:22:18.100 They believe it's him, though.

00:22:19.960 Right.

00:22:20.140 It's so crazy how when something happens now, it's like there's – we get the news so fast, right?

00:22:26.040 And we get video footage of it fast.

00:22:27.900 Like, we get a lot of things fast that you don't – you start getting so many ideas of what's happened

00:22:32.780 and so many, like, angles and lanes.

00:22:35.340 And you've had two podcasts come out from different people before you even get anything from, like, the authorities, right?

00:22:41.720 Right.

00:22:41.940 But then you feel like you can't even trust the authorities anyway.

00:22:44.700 It's so wild how we just are having a piece – everyone is kind of piecing together for themselves what has happened every time.

00:22:50.980 That's crazy.

00:22:51.640 So that shows what it actually looks like when a .50 caliber shoots a skull that's wrapped up in that ballistic shell.

00:22:59.400 Show one more time.

00:23:00.720 Can we show this?

00:23:01.640 Yeah.

00:23:01.740 Watch this.

00:23:02.560 Boom.

00:23:03.000 It just gets destroyed.

00:23:04.820 It's an enormous round.

00:23:07.480 I mean, it's massive overkill to shoot yourself in the head with one of those.

00:23:10.140 But the question is, why would you use a Cybertruck?

00:23:16.000 Because one of the things about a Cybertruck is if you're trying to do damage, a Cybertruck is way more robust than most trucks.

00:23:21.880 I mean, you can't even – they're bulletproof.

00:23:23.660 Yeah.

00:23:23.940 You know, I should try to shoot an arrow through one of them out here.

00:23:26.620 Yeah.

00:23:27.060 Which is the worst thing ever to say about a vehicle.

00:23:28.980 I have a Cybertruck.

00:23:30.680 And it's the – because then everybody's like, oh, is it fucking bulletproof, bitch?

00:23:34.920 You know?

00:23:35.580 They want to shoot at your truck.

00:23:37.140 Everybody's like, yeah.

00:23:37.820 Of course.

00:23:38.020 Look at this metal queer people would yell at me and shit.

00:23:41.240 Like, what is going on?

00:23:42.960 That's so weird.

00:23:43.560 Just crazy.

00:23:44.420 I mean, but people want to challenge it.

00:23:46.240 Yeah, they don't like it.

00:23:47.440 There's a lot of people that either love those things, I'm on that side, or hate them.

00:23:51.020 That's my whole family.

00:23:52.020 Oh, yeah.

00:23:53.400 They're fucking – ew.

00:23:54.700 They think they look gross.

00:23:55.540 I feel a little embarrassed when I get out of it sometimes or I'm going to have to get back in it.

00:23:59.040 It's a statement.

00:24:00.560 Well, I got it like five years ago.

00:24:01.740 I wanted it so bad.

00:24:02.700 And you can put it on $100 and say you had one kind of, you know?

00:24:05.620 I got one on order.

00:24:06.940 Yeah, I got one on order.

00:24:08.280 Everybody had one.

00:24:09.460 But the thing that – you always feel like you're working for Lowe's, but you're never dropping off whatever you're supposed to drop off, too.

00:24:14.840 You feel like you're in a pickup truck?

00:24:16.120 Yeah, I feel like I'm always like –

00:24:17.780 You are in a pickup truck, actually.

00:24:19.280 That's a good point.

00:24:19.880 I feel like I've always got a washer dryer, but I just don't know how to – it just – it has a feeling to it like I work for Home Depot.

00:24:26.440 Like you're delivering stuff?

00:24:26.960 You're in a whirlpool.

00:24:27.780 Yeah, like –

00:24:28.280 Something heavy?

00:24:29.080 Yeah.

00:24:29.480 What's so heavy?

00:24:30.420 I always – how is that feeling?

00:24:31.640 That feeling – refrigerator, it feels like.

00:24:33.260 Bro, if you get in an accident with that thing, you're going to do some damage.

00:24:36.400 Dude, I'll tell you what you don't want to do is get stuck in rural Mississippi having to charge that bitch.

00:24:41.860 Did you?

00:24:42.500 Yeah.

00:24:43.220 No.

00:24:43.680 During the holidays.

00:24:44.700 Oh, no.

00:24:45.680 What'd you do?

00:24:46.260 Oh, dude.

00:24:46.880 Well, first of all, I pull up and this –

00:24:48.560 This must circle you like coyotes.

00:24:49.900 It was crazy.

00:24:52.020 People were coming by, looking at it, you know?

00:24:54.320 Rubbing their engines from a distance.

00:24:55.660 Brum, brum.

00:24:56.700 Yeah.

00:24:57.320 Challenging your technology.

00:24:58.460 People were – like women were like – who were like barren were like rubbing their p***s against

00:25:02.620 it and stuff.

00:25:03.180 Really?

00:25:03.960 People were like thinking it had magical powers.

00:25:06.140 Some brother came right up, right?

00:25:09.100 I had the window cracked.

00:25:11.140 He ordered two black and milds from me.

00:25:13.620 Like I was like a – I was like, I'm just charging.

00:25:17.280 Like I'm going to get two black and milds, you know?

00:25:19.980 Like I was in a – like you can't even imagine where I was.

00:25:23.440 Town probably 600 people.

00:25:24.880 How did they have a charger?

00:25:26.200 This one place had a charger.

00:25:28.220 It was like an IGA.

00:25:29.120 How long did it take you to charge that whole Cybertruck?

00:25:31.200 It took me two hours to just get enough to get out of there.

00:25:34.460 How many miles did you get with two hours were the charging?

00:25:37.600 I would bet I got 40 miles.

00:25:39.920 That's it?

00:25:40.400 Yeah.

00:25:40.820 It was a tough – I mean it took me half the day to get back to my mom's in Baton Rouge.

00:25:45.460 Wow.

00:25:45.760 See, that's the problem with long distance unless you go to a place that has like cities where

00:25:50.440 they have the superchargers.

00:25:51.560 Yeah.

00:25:51.940 Well, then when I drove back to Nashville, I hit like ones that had 300, 250 kilowatt hours.

00:25:57.380 One has 400 kilowatt hours as a Mercedes dealership.

00:26:00.500 Wow.

00:26:00.920 So how quick would that charge you up?

00:26:02.500 That thing will charge you up, I bet, in about 45 minutes.

00:26:05.540 It's still –

00:26:06.100 All the way to 320 miles.

00:26:07.500 That's still a long fucking time.

00:26:09.240 Dude, I plugged it in at my buddy's house.

00:26:11.420 It gave me two miles an hour.

00:26:14.120 So in the – I woke up six hours later and had 12 miles.

00:26:17.220 That's so crazy.

00:26:18.160 Yeah.

00:26:18.400 So that was – but that was just like a lamp.

00:26:19.800 Regular.

00:26:20.160 It was like a lamp, yeah, basically.

00:26:23.060 Yeah.

00:26:23.520 It was enough –

00:26:24.320 A lot of electricity.

00:26:25.240 Enough power to read by, basically.

00:26:26.480 Do you really save money, though?

00:26:28.240 Have you ever looked at that?

00:26:29.600 It's like how much you're paying on gas versus how much does it cost for electricity.

00:26:33.820 I don't think you really save any money.

00:26:35.300 And especially if you have to charge on one of those trips, then it costs like – it's

00:26:38.740 pretty expensive to charge up.

00:26:39.980 Like it's not more than gas, but it's probably half the price.

00:26:43.100 Dude, and then this was the worst thing.

00:26:44.440 So in Louisiana, they put a couple chargers back behind this church's chicken, right?

00:26:50.340 I got to tell you about this shit, dude.

00:26:52.640 You get some hand movements in here.

00:26:54.820 Well, look, bro.

00:26:55.740 It's like as soon as you start doing this, like I know you got a point.

00:27:00.060 This was my holidays, dude.

00:27:01.740 It was tragic.

00:27:03.220 So I get off – they got a church's chicken, right?

00:27:07.160 So to drive – the chargers are behind a church's chicken for some reason.

00:27:12.300 But there's no lane to just drive back to the chargers.

00:27:15.080 You have to get in the to-go lane of the church's chickens.

00:27:17.840 You have to go in – so there's a big line at the church's chicken, right?

00:27:21.220 So I get in line.

00:27:22.240 I have to wait in line to go to the lady at the order thing.

00:27:24.880 You know, it's like take your order at the to-go order.

00:27:27.680 And I'm like I'm just going to the charger.

00:27:29.320 So then I go back there, and now I have to like meander back and forth, like back and

00:27:34.900 forth to get my car to park, and it's hardly any room.

00:27:37.620 Now I'm just facing the people who are waiting in line to pick up their chicken.

00:27:40.420 And there's two types of people in the world.

00:27:42.920 There's like people that wait in line at a church's chicken in a drive-thru to get food

00:27:46.500 and people who have an electric vehicle, right?

00:27:50.760 They're just – they're two different people.

00:27:54.460 Very.

00:27:54.760 Oh, so all these people are like – and then I had to leave, right?

00:27:58.560 So I sit there and charge.

00:28:00.060 I had to leave.

00:28:01.300 Some lady is like wouldn't let me back in line because she didn't want me getting her chicken,

00:28:06.120 right?

00:28:06.600 She's like, you can't get my chicken.

00:28:08.500 And I'm like, I fucking – I don't want your chicken, right?

00:28:12.920 I'm just trying to get out of here.

00:28:13.920 I'm just trying – but there was no way to go around the line.

00:28:16.280 Like you had to get in the line to leave.

00:28:17.900 Oh, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

00:28:19.340 So you had to order chicken in order to use their electricity.

00:28:22.060 No, but I had to promise a lady I was not going to get her chicken, dude.

00:28:26.420 I'll give you $11 not to ever fucking even get any chicken from this place.

00:28:31.620 11?

00:28:32.160 That's not enough.

00:28:32.880 Or 27 or whatever.

00:28:34.180 It just made me mad, dude.

00:28:35.420 But anyway, just that whole – how fast was that charger?

00:28:38.000 That charger was pretty quick.

00:28:39.040 It was 250 kilowatts an hour.

00:28:40.240 I'd say about an hour and 15 minutes you could charge her.

00:28:42.520 And you were ready to go?

00:28:43.780 An hour and 15 minutes?

00:28:44.740 I got out of there pretty – I got out of there early.

00:28:46.420 I cut out early.

00:28:47.400 But it was just a lot, man.

00:28:48.720 I love driving a Tesla around town because I know I'll be able to park it at home or

00:28:52.400 park it here and charge it.

00:28:54.340 But if I had to go on a road trip, I would be very nervous.

00:28:57.040 Yeah, I would say do not do it.

00:28:58.420 That's what I would say.

00:28:58.940 Also, it's like whatever the range is, like let's say the range is 360 miles, not the way

00:29:04.680 I drive.

00:29:05.380 Yeah, you're not getting that.

00:29:06.200 You're getting 220, 210.

00:29:07.800 When you accelerate on the highway, you're like, whee!

00:29:10.380 Oh, I pulled into a charger with four or five miles left.

00:29:13.560 Right into that bit.

00:29:15.580 Then you're – that's like a pedestrian.

00:29:17.040 I don't give a fuck, son.

00:29:18.600 You're so close to being a pedestrian.

00:29:20.200 You're like minutes on a walk.

00:29:22.100 Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.

00:29:23.980 Only from being a pedestrian.

00:29:25.920 I'm like from walking until you run out of water.

00:29:28.480 Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.

00:29:30.800 You're four minutes away.

00:29:32.240 Fuck that, dude.

00:29:33.480 But that was about to rock.

00:29:36.120 Fire.

00:29:37.180 See, you can call a tow truck.

00:29:39.020 They can come with a tank of gas like that.

00:29:41.160 But that one, let us come.

00:29:42.180 They show up.

00:29:42.600 You tip the guy.

00:29:43.720 Thank you, brother.

00:29:44.420 Appreciate it.

00:29:45.060 Where's the nearest gas station?

00:29:46.520 He hooks you up.

00:29:47.340 You pay for the gas.

00:29:48.340 You pay for his service.

00:29:49.400 You give him a tip.

00:29:50.540 You drive to the gas station.

00:29:51.880 Bro, that's a 15-minute ordeal.

00:29:53.980 You're good to go.

00:29:54.940 Filled up.

00:29:55.540 You got fucking beef jerky.

00:29:57.360 You get a mountain diet Mountain Dew.

00:29:59.280 You got a bag of peanuts you're not going to eat.

00:30:03.400 You're on the road, son.

00:30:04.400 Yeah, you got a fucking, you're riding in your truck again.

00:30:07.780 You're going to fart and huff it again.

00:30:09.380 We're talking about farting in the earlier episode.

00:30:12.480 Guys, I wonder if there's been a study on the drop in IQ from huffing your own farts driving trucks.

00:30:17.420 It can't be good for you.

00:30:18.640 Our animals would do it.

00:30:20.820 You know what I'm saying?

00:30:21.600 You would see, I guess caved animals probably do it.

00:30:24.360 It can't be good for you.

00:30:25.600 It just can't be.

00:30:26.680 No, because it's your body trying to say, no way, and then your nose is like, yeah, yeah.

00:30:30.780 You know what's really bad for you?

00:30:32.640 Scented candles.

00:30:34.020 Really?

00:30:34.540 Yeah.

00:30:35.200 I was reading about this.

00:30:37.400 They're trying to figure out why there's been an uptick in lung cancer from people that don't smoke.

00:30:44.900 And they're trying to figure out what it is.

00:30:46.600 And they think it's, there's a combination of factors.

00:30:50.140 Burning toxins, some cooking oils when burned create problems.

00:30:55.980 Some people inhaling, like, especially for prolonged periods of time.

00:30:59.200 But also candles.

00:31:00.740 Like, candles are not good for you.

00:31:02.480 Those scented candles.

00:31:03.940 You're getting a bunch of funky chemicals.

00:31:05.940 You're bringing, so if you have a one-bedroom apartment, right?

00:31:07.820 You got a little bedroom, and you got like 10 candles in there because you like it looking sexy.

00:31:12.160 You know, you like to listen to fucking moody music.

00:31:15.580 You like to lay on your back and jerk off with your legs in the air like that?

00:31:19.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:20.400 Like some weirdo.

00:31:21.540 Yeah.

00:31:22.880 Listen to P.J. O'Rourke.

00:31:25.360 Listen to Cholo, Steve.

00:31:26.920 I lost my heart.

00:31:29.600 Under the bridge.

00:31:31.480 Yeah, I want to get moody.

00:31:33.600 Dude, that has to be the craziest way to jerk off is laying on your back, legs in the air, right?

00:31:39.900 Legs in the air, yeah.

00:31:41.640 Asshole to God.

00:31:42.600 God, that's crazy.

00:31:44.140 Hold on.

00:31:44.800 And one of my buddies is like, yeah, sometimes I put a pillow under my butt.

00:31:47.880 I'm like, what is that for?

00:31:49.000 I don't even feel comfortable stretching like that when I'm alone.

00:31:52.740 You know, I stretch like that when I'm alone.

00:31:54.600 I lie on my back, and I get both my ankles, and I pull them down like this to work on my kicking flexibility.

00:32:00.000 I don't even feel comfortable doing that, but I'm by myself.

00:32:03.780 Just me by myself.

00:32:05.420 Yeah, that's a lot.

00:32:06.860 Stretching out my legs like this, like wee.

00:32:08.780 That's hitchhiking for the devil right there, bro.

00:32:11.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:32:11.740 I'm giving off a message to the demons in the world.

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00:35:42.000 You know, I'm still kind of recovering from the holidays, to be honest with you.

00:35:45.280 I'm a slow recoverer.

00:35:47.440 I didn't want the year to start.

00:35:48.840 I just wasn't ready.

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00:36:51.540 Do you think demons are real?

00:36:53.940 Oh, yeah.

00:36:54.700 I believe that there's good and evil.

00:36:58.160 Yeah, I do too.

00:36:58.800 And some of it, I believe, might be our own individual wars, you know?

00:37:03.560 And I believe that there could be a group war.

00:37:05.560 I'm amazed that at a group level, we don't start to say, hey, this stuff is evil and let's

00:37:10.880 not do it, right?

00:37:12.340 But I think that's where, like, temptation and all that comes in.

00:37:15.400 And, yeah, I think it's pretty fascinating.

00:37:17.320 Sometimes I'll wake up and look at my life as like, wow, this is a war I'm in.

00:37:21.540 And I am the guy who's leading my vessel or whatever, you know?

00:37:29.320 There is.

00:37:29.780 Doing my best, you know, doing my best.

00:37:31.520 That is kind of what it is.

00:37:33.260 There's a lot of that, right?

00:37:34.620 You're in a war of choices.

00:37:36.100 You're in a war of decisions.

00:37:38.060 You're in a war of good behavior and detrimental and destructive behavior.

00:37:43.860 I mean, especially guys like you that have gone through periods of addiction, you know,

00:37:51.000 that's always a war of temptation in your mind.

00:37:53.520 There's always going to be that there.

00:37:55.440 There's always going to be smelling salts.

00:37:59.040 Oh, I'll hit it.

00:38:00.420 There's always going to be smelling salts to bring you.

00:38:03.820 This is the dark road.

00:38:06.660 Everybody wants to talk about gateway drugs.

00:38:09.480 Oh, don't you bring out a new one, you son of a bitch?

00:38:11.460 This one's strong enough, Jamie.

00:38:13.160 Let's check.

00:38:13.640 Is that strawberry?

00:38:15.120 No.

00:38:15.940 I'm trying to find flavored ones.

00:38:17.100 The thing is, they're so scary when they bring the new ones out.

00:38:20.000 Like, I'm scared of the new ones.

00:38:21.560 They're scared.

00:38:22.080 Oh, this one's so strong.

00:38:23.960 Oh, my God.

00:38:24.840 This is so strong.

00:38:25.300 Bro, I can already feel a little of that.

00:38:29.940 God.

00:38:31.540 Let me ride.

00:38:32.020 You know what the difference is, Jamie?

00:38:33.140 Let me ride that little bitch.

00:38:34.100 You know what the difference is?

00:38:35.300 This one, I kept this on it.

00:38:37.980 I didn't even realize I was doing it.

00:38:39.940 But I kept that on it and that it was sealed.

00:38:41.660 I would lay on my back in 69, this thing, brother.

00:38:45.040 It's already going to be strong, Joe.

00:38:46.440 Quiet.

00:38:46.680 How sorry was that?

00:38:47.160 Don't look at me when I do it.

00:38:48.060 Hit it.

00:38:48.580 Hit it.

00:38:51.500 I didn't get enough.

00:38:52.440 You didn't get enough.

00:38:53.260 No.

00:38:53.540 Hold on.

00:38:53.880 You didn't inhale.

00:38:55.100 You got scared.

00:38:56.100 You missed.

00:38:56.560 You're right.

00:38:56.840 Oh, my God.

00:38:58.980 Oh, my God.

00:39:00.380 No.

00:39:01.400 No.

00:39:02.040 You don't do that.

00:39:03.320 You don't do that.

00:39:05.420 What you just did scared everyone.

00:39:07.820 I'm sweating.

00:39:09.200 I'm sweating, too.

00:39:09.880 Because of that.

00:39:10.300 Sorry.

00:39:10.600 How are you?

00:39:11.080 Are you okay?

00:39:12.440 Bro, you just changed timelines.

00:39:16.420 Because of you, Justin Trudeau resigned.

00:39:19.740 Because of that.

00:39:20.620 Give me another hit.

00:39:21.280 Before that, before you did that, it was a different timeline.

00:39:25.560 Trump didn't win.

00:39:27.460 Trudeau didn't resign.

00:39:29.280 Mark Zuckerberg didn't start doing jiu-jitsu.

00:39:31.220 That's part of what happened.

00:39:32.560 By the way, I'll tell you for a fact.

00:39:35.340 Mark Zuckerberg started doing jiu-jitsu.

00:39:37.180 And nothing turns you into a libertarian like jiu-jitsu.

00:39:40.180 Really?

00:39:40.620 Oh, yeah.

00:39:41.700 Yeah.

00:39:42.260 Nothing turns you into a person who really values hard work and discipline and struggle like jiu-jitsu.

00:39:50.340 Huh.

00:39:51.280 Because of exposure of character on a level that, like, there's nothing else is like it.

00:39:57.440 Wow.

00:39:58.140 I hadn't thought about that that much.

00:39:59.320 Yeah.

00:39:59.640 Because you expose character in a way that it's almost impossible, even with other martial arts.

00:40:05.100 Because with other martial arts, you can only spar so much, man.

00:40:08.080 Believe me, because I spar too much.

00:40:10.260 You spar a lot, you get hurt.

00:40:12.280 And you get hurt, eventually you get dinged up to the point where your brain is just not firing so well anymore.

00:40:18.200 Mm-hmm.

00:40:18.680 Like, I was reading this horrible story where they're talking about Parkinson's and Muhammad Ali's daughter was talking about how she remembers when she was young, when he fought Leon Spinks the second time.

00:40:30.800 She could tell afterwards that he talked different.

00:40:33.120 Oh.

00:40:33.420 You know?

00:40:37.240 It's got to be tough for a kid, huh?

00:40:38.660 Oh, my God.

00:40:39.140 And you probably pretend that he doesn't because you don't want to hurt his feelings or whatever.

00:40:42.700 Well, you must be so scared if you're a kid and your father is a fighter.

00:40:46.600 That has to be so terrifying.

00:40:48.040 Yeah.

00:40:48.760 Especially watching your fight.

00:40:49.900 I've seen people that bring their kids to a fight and then they get flatlined.

00:40:53.520 And you see the terror in the kid's eyes where their father is fucking laid out unconscious, bleeding from his mouth.

00:41:01.540 A doctor's holding his head up and his feet are twitching.

00:41:05.480 Yeah.

00:41:05.960 And sometimes the kid doesn't even know if the dad won or not.

00:41:08.020 He's still cheering.

00:41:08.840 And you're like, this doesn't even make any sense.

00:41:11.220 This kid is crazy.

00:41:12.380 Well, that kid might have other problems.

00:41:13.800 That kid might be already sparring already.

00:41:15.520 Yeah.

00:41:17.320 They might have that kid sparring young.

00:41:19.300 There's an argument for sparring young because you can't hurt each other.

00:41:21.520 Oh, yeah.

00:41:22.860 Sometimes I'll see like reels on the internet on social media of kids that are young, sparring.

00:41:27.940 It's really funny.

00:41:28.500 Sometimes they don't know what to do.

00:41:30.140 Well, as long as they learn control.

00:41:31.800 They've got to learn control.

00:41:32.860 But if they learn control when they're young and they learn not to hit each other hard but just to do it fast, man, they can get so good.

00:41:39.280 Because they don't hurt each other the way adults hurt each other.

00:41:41.960 Yeah.

00:41:42.140 Like once you get to be like 170 pounds, man, you can generate a lot of force.

00:41:46.620 And so if you're sparring hard with another guy that's 170 pounds, you're blasting each other in the face.

00:41:51.360 And the legs and the body.

00:41:52.820 It's like, oh, God, you do so much damage.

00:41:55.320 Yeah.

00:41:55.620 So much damage.

00:41:56.640 But little kids don't do that kind of damage.

00:41:58.260 They just slap each other a little.

00:41:59.360 Pat, pat, pat.

00:42:00.080 They just tap each other.

00:42:01.340 It's like a good way to learn.

00:42:02.620 Oh, if I could go back and be a kid?

00:42:04.780 Is that what you'd do?

00:42:05.580 I mean, I would slap.

00:42:06.600 Yeah, because if you could go back in time being a kid, think of all the stuff you would do.

00:42:10.140 Well, let me tell you this.

00:42:11.580 If you were 90 years old right now, God, if I could go back in time when I was 44 and limber.

00:42:15.900 It's true, huh?

00:42:16.600 That's what you'd do.

00:42:17.400 Like back in time, Theo Vaughn, 2025.

00:42:20.680 Oh, my God.

00:42:21.820 I should have taken jujitsu back then.

00:42:23.360 I could have been a badass in 10 years.

00:42:25.360 If you take jujitsu right now by 54, you could be a black belt.

00:42:28.340 You think I could?

00:42:29.380 100%.

00:42:29.740 Yeah, you're an addict.

00:42:31.180 All you have to do is get addicted to jujitsu.

00:42:33.260 Yeah.

00:42:33.900 That's what happens to a lot of addicts.

00:42:35.200 They get addicted to running, become marathon runners.

00:42:38.380 Like my friend John Joseph, he became an Iron Man guy, just started doing Iron Man.

00:42:42.500 What about Goggins?

00:42:43.360 Did he ever suffer with addiction?

00:42:44.800 I don't know if he did or not.

00:42:45.780 Addiction.

00:42:46.060 Oh, yeah, that's right, huh?

00:42:47.120 Yeah.

00:42:47.420 I think we all have that.

00:42:48.860 What?

00:42:49.200 I get sugar sometimes.

00:42:51.720 Sugar's a good one.

00:42:52.620 God, I just want something.

00:42:53.800 Look at that Gatorade.

00:42:54.640 Is that a sugar-free Gatorade or a regular?

00:42:56.360 I told him to get sugar-free.

00:42:57.560 Zero.

00:42:58.120 I asked him to get sugar-free.

00:42:58.920 Zero's good.

00:42:59.740 You want a little bit of it?

00:43:00.660 No.

00:43:01.100 Yeah.

00:43:01.420 You want a taste of this whiskey?

00:43:03.800 Yeah, you want a gram of this shit.

00:43:05.420 Dude, I would get so, I've just been getting so dehydrated.

00:43:08.360 First of all, why is dehydration more of a thing now?

00:43:11.000 Dude, when I was growing up, nobody was like, are you dehydrated?

00:43:15.640 That's why this is important.

00:43:17.000 If you're going to listen, you've got to listen to both podcasts.

00:43:19.420 Listen to that one first, because we started talking about dehydration, but then you got,

00:43:23.440 I think you started talking about zebras or something.

00:43:25.080 I did?

00:43:25.480 Yeah, you went off in a different direction.

00:43:26.260 No, you went off in a different direction, dude.

00:43:29.120 You started talking about bombs and aliens.

00:43:32.920 You haven't met you, dude.

00:43:35.340 I've got to introduce you to you.

00:43:37.980 You're going to be intrigued.

00:43:41.440 I'd be fascinated.

00:43:43.260 But no, I think, what was I saying?

00:43:45.860 Hydration is important, though.

00:43:47.140 That's why electrolytes.

00:43:48.300 Electrolytes are important.

00:43:49.080 Why is it a big thing now?

00:43:50.160 You remember saying, years ago, nobody was like, 10 years ago, people were like, yeah,

00:43:53.840 stay hydrated, but nobody was like, there wasn't this big crazy thing about it.

00:43:57.400 Well, there was once they figured out Gatorade.

00:43:59.920 So do you know what the original Gatorade ingredients were?

00:44:03.840 It was like citrus juice, like lemon juice, salt, sugar, and water, I believe.

00:44:10.140 Pull that up.

00:44:11.680 So this was a criticism that someone was bringing up on one of them Instagram reels.

00:44:15.480 And they were talking about the original Gatorade versus the Gatorade that they have now with

00:44:19.340 all these crazy dyes and the color blue and all these fucking, all the weird shit.

00:44:24.040 Like Gatorade didn't used to be like that.

00:44:26.100 Gatorade was just like a hydration drink that was pretty fucking good.

00:44:30.200 Pretty fucking good.

00:44:31.140 Yeah.

00:44:31.480 Like hydration drinks are legit.

00:44:33.520 Electrolytes, that's a legit thing.

00:44:34.940 You know, you really do need, you need sodium, you need magnesium, you need electrolytes.

00:44:40.400 Trace minerals.

00:44:41.180 Yeah.

00:44:41.420 All that stuff's fucking really good for you.

00:44:43.200 And when you sweat a lot, it helps to replenish it in your body.

00:44:46.480 Do you think, do you believe in that hydrogen water stuff where it's like you charge water?

00:44:51.480 Yeah, it's legit.

00:44:52.340 It is?

00:44:52.780 Yeah.

00:44:53.480 I thought about maybe getting one this year.

00:44:54.300 You gotta drink it like right after you make it.

00:44:56.220 The original Gatorade invented in 1965 by UF's, is that University of Florida?

00:45:01.340 Yeah.

00:45:02.080 Robert Cade consisted of glucose, sodium, potassium, and water.

00:45:06.180 That's it.

00:45:06.560 So, sodium, potassium, water, and some sugar.

00:45:10.360 The same formula we use for oral rehydration and cholera.

00:45:13.980 It worked, but it tasted like tiger piss.

00:45:16.720 Then Pepsi bought Gatorade and Michael Jordan sweetened it with high fructose corn syrup and voila!

00:45:22.900 Michael Jordan brought us into the high fructose corn syrup maze.

00:45:27.180 It was it.

00:45:28.160 Yeah, I remember.

00:45:28.740 He was the best ever.

00:45:29.840 Who's done better with sneakers than that guy?

00:45:32.520 Nobody.

00:45:33.220 Jordans, it became his name.

00:45:34.560 But I'm saying it became a thing.

00:45:35.900 Like, it's a part of a brand that's a huge brand and it's bigger than the brand.

00:45:40.480 Yeah.

00:45:40.900 Jordans are bigger than Nikes.

00:45:42.640 Like, if you have Nikes on, that's one thing.

00:45:44.140 If you have Jordans on, like, oh, he's got Jordans on.

00:45:45.820 That's wild, huh?

00:45:46.600 The O'Van's wearing Jordans.

00:45:47.840 Look at that.

00:45:48.340 Yeah.

00:45:49.540 I've never been a big shoe guy, really.

00:45:51.440 I got these Jelly Roll shoes on he gave me.

00:45:53.960 Oh, those are tight.

00:45:55.100 These are like Hey Dudes, they're called.

00:45:56.720 Oh, yeah.

00:45:57.060 I got a pair of those.

00:45:57.740 But they're men.

00:45:58.380 They're really men's slippers.

00:45:59.360 And it's something about it.

00:46:00.980 Yeah.

00:46:01.080 What are you going to do if you have to fight?

00:46:04.340 Not put these on and go out on the porch.

00:46:06.420 On the porch.

00:46:08.580 I can see Theo scrapping on the porch.

00:46:11.060 By the way, I've seen more fistfights online over the last three years than I have in my

00:46:16.100 entire life.

00:46:16.960 Yeah.

00:46:17.440 My entire life of actually seeing street fights.

00:46:20.060 My entire life of being out in comedy clubs and nightclubs and bars and seeing street

00:46:24.820 fights.

00:46:25.140 I've seen more in the last three years than all that combined.

00:46:29.460 Do you feel like we get an unrealistic view of reality because of all the stuff that we

00:46:34.600 see online?

00:46:35.260 You do.

00:46:35.880 Yeah.

00:46:36.060 But if you don't go and see an actual bar fight, you don't know reality.

00:46:40.120 Like, I remember I was 21 years old.

00:46:43.420 I was in Boston.

00:46:45.360 I went to this bar and I saw this dude break a Heineken bottle on this dude's face.

00:46:50.500 I don't remember what they were arguing about.

00:46:52.520 The dude did it so quickly.

00:46:54.380 Out of nowhere, his first move was break a Heineken bottle on this guy's face and just

00:46:58.200 cut this guy's face wide open.

00:47:00.260 It was blood was pouring down his face.

00:47:02.380 I was like, that is crazy.

00:47:04.760 And I was as close to that guy is as I am to Jamie.

00:47:08.040 It was it was right there at the bar.

00:47:09.620 I watched it all go down.

00:47:10.680 I was like, that's put in my head.

00:47:14.100 Like, don't ever talk shit to somebody at a bar.

00:47:16.540 Yeah.

00:47:16.780 Like, deescalate always.

00:47:18.560 Too many weapons around.

00:47:19.320 Well, just there's people out there that will just break a fucking bottle over your face,

00:47:23.420 especially if you threaten them.

00:47:25.040 I don't know what that guy said.

00:47:25.960 I don't know what happened.

00:47:26.860 I just saw the act of the guy breaking.

00:47:29.220 I saw I heard loud arguing and then smash.

00:47:32.240 And did the guy make a sound when he hit him or anything like that?

00:47:34.700 I don't remember.

00:47:35.980 I just remember blood.

00:47:37.940 The blood was instant.

00:47:39.600 It just gushed down his face.

00:47:42.020 I mean, this guy got ruined for life.

00:47:43.940 He has a giant scar on his face for the rest of his life, for sure.

00:47:47.800 There's no way he doesn't.

00:47:48.900 It was just his whole face.

00:47:51.580 Blood.

00:47:53.580 Did you fuck with people, man?

00:47:55.740 Oh, yeah.

00:47:56.060 I'm not fucking with anybody.

00:47:57.120 I know you don't.

00:47:57.980 But I don't for everybody else listening.

00:47:59.720 Don't fuck with people.

00:48:00.560 Yeah, especially if you're at a bar too.

00:48:02.620 Shit is wet.

00:48:03.360 I don't like to be in places where people are real drunk because shit can get too weird.

00:48:07.280 It makes me nervous, I think.

00:48:09.360 A hundred percent.

00:48:10.520 People do stupid fucking things when they're drunk.

00:48:13.600 Yeah.

00:48:14.060 That could ruin the whole rest of their life just being hammered.

00:48:17.740 Imagine how many people have just sobered up and been like,

00:48:19.540 you're lying.

00:48:20.100 I did.

00:48:20.380 That happened.

00:48:20.960 And they don't even have any memory of it.

00:48:22.980 I was watching this video that I just saw on Instagram the other day of this guy who was a former Muay Thai fighter in Mexico.

00:48:30.700 And he got in a fight with these dudes and just started KOing dudes left and right.

00:48:35.520 He KOs like four or five dudes.

00:48:37.240 And one of them died.

00:48:38.860 Because this is one of the things that I tell people all the time absolutely happens in street fights.

00:48:43.540 You knock a person out, they fall down, they bounce their head off the concrete, and they fucking die.

00:48:48.120 And it happens all the time.

00:48:50.760 It happens all the time.

00:48:53.080 And it happens.

00:48:53.720 So in 25% of the people this guy knocked out, one of them died.

00:48:57.460 So 25% of them died.

00:48:59.400 One out of four.

00:49:00.300 He KOs all four of them.

00:49:01.820 One dude never wakes up.

00:49:02.880 And now he's charged with murder.

00:49:05.100 Have you seen the video?

00:49:05.780 It's pretty impressive.

00:49:06.260 No, and the guy's just defending himself?

00:49:08.280 Yeah.

00:49:08.720 These guys are coming after him.

00:49:10.420 And he just starts flatlining them.

00:49:13.040 Damn.

00:49:13.460 Just blap.

00:49:13.880 He's got a good right hand.

00:49:15.500 Did you see any UFC fight or any fight when you were in Scotland?

00:49:19.300 What did you do for fun when you were there?

00:49:20.800 No, there was no UFC fights.

00:49:23.260 Have you seen that video, Jamie?

00:49:24.620 I can send it to you if you want.

00:49:26.840 Who's a Scottish fighter?

00:49:27.880 Paul Craig, is he Scottish?

00:49:28.960 Yeah, he's Scottish.

00:49:30.040 He's a bad motherfucker.

00:49:30.940 Yeah.

00:49:31.180 He's got one of the greatest triangles in the history of the sport.

00:49:34.080 That guy's triangles off the charts.

00:49:35.520 I know I sent it to Tommy.

00:49:37.580 Me and Tom Segura sent each other everything fucked up, including that nuclear explosion,

00:49:42.820 which I'm...

00:49:43.340 I also saw that lady get body slammed.

00:49:47.060 Did you see that one, Jamie?

00:49:50.360 You didn't see that lady get body slammed?

00:49:51.800 I don't know what specific time you're talking about.

00:49:53.620 I've seen a video of that before.

00:49:54.840 Some lady punches this guy in the face and the guy body slams her.

00:49:57.600 It wasn't that Pentecostal deal, was it?

00:49:59.500 No.

00:49:59.880 This one is, I think it's in Toledo, Ohio.

00:50:03.880 And they're out in the middle of the street.

00:50:06.140 And this lady is yelling at this dude's girlfriend.

00:50:09.800 So I just sent it to you, Jamie.

00:50:11.920 Bam.

00:50:12.240 Oh, Jesus.

00:50:14.280 That's another one.

00:50:16.480 Ooh.

00:50:17.300 Oh, he picked that woman up and slammed her like that?

00:50:19.660 Wow.

00:50:20.180 That seems...

00:50:20.680 First of all, weight class.

00:50:22.000 That's a catchweight, huh?

00:50:22.900 Oh, that's so awful.

00:50:24.000 That's so awful.

00:50:25.280 Oh, my God.

00:50:26.380 Damn it.

00:50:26.900 Jesus Christ.

00:50:27.860 Fuck.

00:50:28.640 That's not the one I'm talking about.

00:50:30.000 The one I'm talking about is, I just sent it to you, Jamie.

00:50:32.940 You gotta be careful, man.

00:50:34.540 This one, the lady punches the guy in the face, though.

00:50:36.780 The guy's trying to de-escalate.

00:50:38.140 He tries to walk away.

00:50:39.360 And the lady says, get the fuck out of my face.

00:50:41.120 And then she punches him in the face.

00:50:42.380 And the dude picks her up and just slams her.

00:50:44.860 Oh, my God.

00:50:45.460 And her boyfriend was in the car the whole time.

00:50:47.340 She's calling out to the boyfriend in the car.

00:50:48.880 And the dude does not get out of the car.

00:50:50.360 She's like, nope.

00:50:51.640 She's like, go ahead and fuck.

00:50:52.920 Look at this.

00:50:53.420 Give me some volume.

00:50:58.260 And go full screen.

00:51:01.120 Watch this.

00:51:02.720 Get out of the fucking car.

00:51:04.240 You want to ride my fucking ass?

00:51:05.780 Get out of the fucking car there, bitch.

00:51:07.540 Get out.

00:51:08.440 Get out.

00:51:09.860 I didn't touch your fucking car, you fucking bitch.

00:51:11.940 You were on my gut.

00:51:13.040 Come and touch me, because my man's right fucking there.

00:51:15.360 Come and put your fucking hands on me.

00:51:17.040 I ain't driving crazy.

00:51:18.260 Your bitch was on my goddamn ass.

00:51:21.620 I went to the fucking other lane.

00:51:23.460 Get out of my face.

00:51:24.680 See you later.

00:51:26.220 Bitch.

00:51:26.620 That's why you got to go to a meeting, dude.

00:51:32.920 I've got to go to a meeting before I do this shit.

00:51:34.720 Okay.

00:51:35.800 Just for the record.

00:51:36.880 That's a Mazda, I think, huh?

00:51:38.360 No, it looks like a Cadillac.

00:51:40.040 Like a shitty old Cadillac.

00:51:41.720 For the record, that lady could die.

00:51:44.380 Yeah.

00:51:44.900 Like, you could die from that.

00:51:46.340 Like, if her head banged off the concrete, I'm not sure if it did.

00:51:49.100 But if it did with the weight of all of his body and her body, like, that shit is very dangerous.

00:51:56.760 Look how much we heard it from here.

00:51:58.840 Yeah.

00:51:59.500 I mean, that shit fucking...

00:52:01.140 He was charged with assault and battery by means of dangerous weapon causing serious bodily injury,

00:52:06.300 vandalizing property, an unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle.

00:52:10.620 The man involved was arrested, but he wasn't driving.

00:52:13.100 Yeah, that blows me up, man.

00:52:14.640 This is just what someone posted below.

00:52:16.400 That could be...

00:52:17.040 It might not be true.

00:52:17.620 The woman suffered injuries, but was released from the hospital.

00:52:21.180 Oh.

00:52:22.420 The thing is, it's like, she assaulted him first.

00:52:24.880 Right.

00:52:25.480 Oh, yeah.

00:52:26.160 It doesn't...

00:52:26.560 It seemed like they would get that figured out.

00:52:28.280 But doing that...

00:52:29.260 Oh, he did bang her head, for sure.

00:52:31.080 Her head banged.

00:52:31.520 Oh.

00:52:32.340 Yeah, well, you think...

00:52:33.240 Yeah.

00:52:33.540 Look at that.

00:52:34.200 That's super dangerous.

00:52:35.960 Super fucking dangerous.

00:52:37.540 Yeah, man.

00:52:38.160 Like, that's even more dangerous than knocking somebody out.

00:52:40.260 I mean, that's horrible.

00:52:41.340 That's the kind of stuff.

00:52:42.020 You could 100% kill somebody doing that.

00:52:44.160 100%.

00:52:44.520 Well, people want to do dangerous stuff.

00:52:46.140 Did you see there's a woman that just died petting an elephant, trying to pet an elephant,

00:52:49.740 I think, in Thailand?

00:52:51.900 Well, we watched a guy get trampled by an elephant recently.

00:52:55.560 You did?

00:52:56.240 Oh, it was awful.

00:52:58.100 This elephant got tired of this guy ordering it around and just folded this dude up and

00:53:02.320 just squashed him.

00:53:03.620 And you see him trying to get away, and it just squashes his head.

00:53:07.040 Like, yo.

00:53:08.740 Spanish woman killed by elephant in Thailand while bathing animal.

00:53:12.180 Oh, by the way, I did that.

00:53:13.540 You did it?

00:53:14.760 I didn't get in to bathe them, but my family did.

00:53:17.340 We, in Thailand, rode the elephants, and I was like, I don't think this is cool.

00:53:22.100 They thought, oh, this is so beautiful.

00:53:24.260 This is what happens.

00:53:26.040 You go to this elephant reserve.

00:53:29.080 Like, it's like they rescue these elephants.

00:53:31.700 By the way, the elephants are completely free range, so they're wandering through the jungle.

00:53:35.880 So while you're there, you hear trees branching, branches snapping, and you see elephants

00:53:41.340 just making their way through the jungle to this group, and then they feed them sugarcane.

00:53:45.460 So you feed these elephants sugarcane.

00:53:47.820 So you give them a bunch of sugarcane, and then you clean them.

00:53:51.640 So you wash the elephant, and you say nice things to it, and you develop this little

00:53:55.700 relationship with the elephant.

00:53:56.860 Oh, beautiful.

00:53:57.260 You ride the elephant through the jungle.

00:53:59.220 The elephant takes you, and then at the end of it, you bathe the elephant.

00:54:03.000 Right.

00:54:03.320 You get the elephant in the water, and you wash them.

00:54:05.180 You're basically being nice to them.

00:54:06.900 They're being nice to you.

00:54:07.820 They're letting you ride them.

00:54:09.380 You give them free food, and you give them a little massage.

00:54:11.600 But I made a video about it, I think.

00:54:13.740 When does it go askew?

00:54:14.540 I definitely did.

00:54:15.220 I was like, I don't recommend it.

00:54:16.600 Yeah.

00:54:17.080 I was like, it's cool, because I was hanging out with this elephant in the video.

00:54:20.260 They're really sweet creatures.

00:54:21.420 They're so gentle, but they're so big, and they're deciding not to kill you, and you're

00:54:28.180 riding them, which is like, why do you have to ride them?

00:54:30.460 Why do we have that fatuation with people that want to take pictures of like, let me

00:54:38.040 pet this newborn cheetah, right?

00:54:40.900 Let me bottle feed this fucking senior citizen tiger.

00:54:44.700 You know what I'm saying?

00:54:45.040 There's always like, let me bathe this elephant.

00:54:49.260 Well, the tigers are all drugged up, too.

00:54:51.520 That was another thing we did in Thailand.

00:54:52.920 You got to be careful, dude.

00:54:54.160 The tigers are drugged up, man.

00:54:55.820 Uh-uh.

00:54:56.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:57.020 Super drugged up.

00:54:58.020 So this is what it is.

00:54:58.840 It's like, you go to these tiger sanctuaries.

00:55:00.820 What?

00:55:01.780 You can.

00:55:02.660 You certainly can on tigers in Thailand.

00:55:04.660 Oh, Thailand.

00:55:05.520 So you go to this place, and they have little kittens.

00:55:08.560 So the kittens, the tiger cubs, they're different.

00:55:11.200 They're super active.

00:55:12.260 Like, they're biting things and playing with each other.

00:55:14.580 And you can touch them?

00:55:15.500 Yeah.

00:55:16.020 Oh, good.

00:55:16.400 You can touch them.

00:55:16.860 Okay.

00:55:17.260 But then when they get slightly older, you can be in the cage with them, but there has to be a

00:55:21.060 dude with a stick.

00:55:22.060 The dude with a stick is standing between you and this small tiger.

00:55:24.900 Fuck no.

00:55:25.360 Whose team is he on?

00:55:26.320 Oh, it's so crazy.

00:55:27.220 It's so crazy.

00:55:28.060 It's so crazy.

00:55:28.540 And he's on your team?

00:55:29.760 Yes.

00:55:30.140 Okay.

00:55:30.440 And this is a small tiger.

00:55:31.720 This tiger is like 40 pounds.

00:55:33.280 And then when they get bigger, then they have to drug them.

00:55:36.680 So then when you get into the adult tiger, they're like this.

00:55:40.380 Like, so obvious.

00:55:41.360 And people are taking pictures, like, sitting next to the tiger.

00:55:43.460 The tiger is literally like this.

00:55:44.740 Like, he has no idea what's going on.

00:55:47.180 They keep him all heroin down in their mind.

00:55:49.380 The tigers don't move.

00:55:50.680 And you realize they're drugged up, and you get real sad.

00:55:52.720 Yeah.

00:55:53.080 And you just have to get out of there.

00:55:53.380 RFK is going to end that shit.

00:55:54.640 I'll say that, dude.

00:55:55.780 We're going to have real active tigers fucking attacking people.

00:55:58.160 You want a photo with a tiger?

00:55:59.280 You've got to risk your life.

00:56:00.020 But that's the thing.

00:56:00.940 It's like, why do we have that infatuation, though, of, like, I want to take this with

00:56:03.600 this cobra around my neck.

00:56:04.840 I want to take this, you know.

00:56:06.060 That's a good question.

00:56:06.700 You can't, like, get these things where you want to pet a tiger.

00:56:09.580 You want to, you know, brush a lion's teeth.

00:56:11.740 You want to tickle a cyst out in Akron or something without getting, you know.

00:56:15.580 And sometimes you're going to get attacked.

00:56:17.980 You know what I'm saying?

00:56:18.560 You've got to be careful.

00:56:19.880 Yeah.

00:56:20.380 But what is that inside of us that makes us want to do that?

00:56:22.960 Because it's scary.

00:56:24.060 It's scary to pet a crocodile.

00:56:25.460 So when a guy can, like, put his hand on the crocodile's face, you're like, whoa.

00:56:28.600 Yeah.

00:56:29.340 Do you ever see that one where the dude is, like, the crocodile grabs a hold of his arm

00:56:32.740 and goes into a gator roll in front of the crowd?

00:56:34.840 Oh, it's horrible.

00:56:35.900 Rips his arm off in front of the whole crowd.

00:56:38.860 I haven't seen that.

00:56:40.460 What else was I going to ask you about?

00:56:43.260 What do you think the drones are, Theo?

00:56:45.440 I thought there's just a bunch of fucking, I think it's a, what does a psyop mean?

00:56:50.160 I always hear that.

00:56:51.260 Psychological operation.

00:56:52.560 Okay.

00:56:53.160 I think it's a psyop by somebody.

00:56:55.100 I think it's not.

00:56:55.920 You know?

00:56:56.440 Yeah.

00:56:56.680 It's a couple drones over in New Jersey or whatever.

00:56:59.000 I don't fucking know.

00:56:59.920 I don't fucking know.

00:57:00.360 It could be Jimmy John's is going to have a new delivery thing they're going to try next

00:57:03.920 year.

00:57:04.160 Who, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

00:57:05.580 I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon's going to do a new, I wouldn't be shocked at all.

00:57:08.520 It could have been one of those, you know, they have those New Year's Eve displays,

00:57:12.400 like fireworks displays now are drones instead of fireworks.

00:57:16.040 So they'll have like a thousand drones and they just make a bunch of shit and it's different,

00:57:20.220 right?

00:57:20.580 I saw that at the Post Malone concert.

00:57:22.060 It could have been 11 people, 11 drones escaped from a drones enslavement camp where

00:57:27.180 they're forced to do these shows and it's going to be a Pixar movie in two years.

00:57:31.020 You know what I'm saying?

00:57:31.320 So you're not concerned at all?

00:57:32.420 I'm not concerned.

00:57:33.360 Dude, look, if they're going to come get me, come get me.

00:57:35.740 Come get me.

00:57:36.580 Look at you.

00:57:36.860 What are they doing?

00:57:37.780 Who are they?

00:57:39.000 Who are they?

00:57:40.220 These fucks.

00:57:40.980 Yeah.

00:57:41.400 They're going to come, come get me.

00:57:42.580 Come get me, bitch.

00:57:43.680 Yeah.

00:57:44.180 If they want to get me, they know where I am.

00:57:46.060 Yeah.

00:57:47.160 Leave me alone.

00:57:48.280 Huh?

00:57:48.620 Yeah.

00:57:48.900 Otherwise, leave me alone.

00:57:49.840 Don't make me look at you flying around the sky like an asshole.

00:57:53.020 Yeah.

00:57:53.220 What are you doing up there?

00:57:54.380 Come down here and fuck if you want to party.

00:57:56.300 Whoa.

00:57:56.860 Or come down here and fucking party.

00:57:58.140 Come down here and have a drink.

00:57:59.000 Come down here and do something.

00:58:00.140 You're a drone in the distance fucking looking at shit.

00:58:02.600 Do you think we'll ever get to a point where aliens are so comfortable with us they

00:58:05.240 could just come hang out?

00:58:06.180 Dude, I think Earth to aliens is a dump, dude.

00:58:08.940 I think Earth to aliens.

00:58:10.720 Because aliens go on vacation every year, right?

00:58:12.720 They're just like us, right?

00:58:14.940 And they take their kids on a trip or whatever.

00:58:18.320 And the kids who are so poor, right?

00:58:21.160 And look, we were poor.

00:58:22.820 My mom would take us to the beach when it was freezing cold and fucking wouldn't tell

00:58:25.420 us, you know, fucking whatever.

00:58:26.880 It was like, it seems cold.

00:58:27.900 I'm just like, whatever.

00:58:28.820 So help.

00:58:30.140 And but the aliens that don't care about their kids, whatever, they bring them here to

00:58:35.580 fucking shit.

00:58:36.180 They're like, oh.

00:58:36.640 And the kids are like, we have to go to fucking Earth, dude.

00:58:38.800 Our life sucks, you know?

00:58:40.680 Like the cool alien kids go to all more neater shit, you know?

00:58:44.220 Right.

00:58:44.540 Does it make sense to you?

00:58:45.880 Yeah.

00:58:46.760 Yeah.

00:58:47.280 That's the kind of thing I'm saying, man.

00:58:49.020 Do you know Scotland actually has some of the most UFO sightings in the whole world?

00:58:53.180 Well, they had one of the best UFO sightings.

00:58:55.340 They took photographs of it.

00:58:56.700 It was in that movie.

00:58:57.200 Bridge Bonnie or whatever.

00:58:58.200 What's it called?

00:58:58.720 Bridgebury?

00:58:59.840 Yeah.

00:59:00.520 Something like that.

00:59:01.680 James Fox's documentary, The Program.

00:59:03.500 He was just here promoting it, and they showed the photo, and it's a photo from the 1990s

00:59:08.700 that they got of this thing.

00:59:10.080 Apparently, there was three photos.

00:59:11.880 Bonnie Bridge.

00:59:12.660 That's it.

00:59:12.960 There you go.

00:59:13.560 Most UFO sightings on the planet.

00:59:15.180 Whoa.

00:59:16.540 300 per year.

00:59:17.660 But also, let me tell you something.

00:59:19.260 Those folks like to drink.

00:59:21.120 I mean, bro, they drank.

00:59:22.540 Oh, yeah.

00:59:23.080 Have a wee drab.

00:59:24.400 Have a wee drab.

00:59:25.420 If someone says have a wee drab, that means it's time to get fucked up.

00:59:28.860 This dude, Paul, poured me a shot of Irish whiskey that was like that thick.

00:59:32.580 I was like, oh, we're going to go.

00:59:34.020 They're getting fucked up.

00:59:34.740 We're getting ready to go.

00:59:35.940 Oh, you're joking.

00:59:37.040 Did they call you that?

00:59:37.660 Have a wee drab.

00:59:38.720 They're the nicest people.

00:59:39.980 They're the nicest people.

00:59:40.860 And they're gay.

00:59:41.420 I think they don't have a lot of gays over there either.

00:59:43.060 They have a lot of blue-eyed people over there.

00:59:44.960 You know that?

00:59:45.260 You don't think they have a lot of gays?

00:59:46.700 I don't know.

00:59:47.100 What do you think they do with them?

00:59:48.460 I mean, they have them.

00:59:49.320 I bet they don't say that they're secretive.

00:59:52.660 Nah, I don't think so.

00:59:53.860 You don't think?

00:59:54.080 I think they're pretty open-minded.

00:59:55.260 In fact, I think they have a pretty woke government.

00:59:57.860 I think they have a very woke government.

00:59:59.260 They wear a lot of kilts, that's for sure, dude.

01:00:00.880 There you go.

01:00:01.400 It's close to gay.

01:00:02.440 We're in a dress.

01:00:03.180 It's not good, but it's like, what if a kilt says free awning on it?

01:00:06.960 What if it's a rainbow kilt?

01:00:08.020 Yeah.

01:00:09.020 Do they sell rainbow kilts?

01:00:11.780 They probably do.

01:00:12.960 It's always raining.

01:00:13.860 What if it just says free awning on it?

01:00:15.500 You're like, oh, that seems like a trap, bro.

01:00:17.960 Come dry your head off down here.

01:00:19.680 But if it says kids awning, you got to be, that's fucking.

01:00:24.280 Oh, yeah.

01:00:24.740 Free toys.

01:00:25.460 I'm doing great.

01:00:26.280 Cool, dude.

01:00:27.520 Hey, the top's empty.

01:00:30.300 Jesus Christ.

01:00:31.700 I'm just saying, dude, the Scottish, we need more of them, dude.

01:00:34.260 And I believe that in the future, we'll get more of them, man.

01:00:36.720 You think they're going to breed a lot?

01:00:38.420 Or do you think we're going to import people?

01:00:40.440 They've had some explosions of population, I know, over the past 50 years.

01:00:43.860 I think.

01:00:44.920 Oh, really?

01:00:45.540 Yeah, I think so.

01:00:46.300 There's like a million people over there.

01:00:47.600 There's nobody over there.

01:00:48.720 Yeah, but they're getting more.

01:00:50.140 I think the whole country is like 6 million people.

01:00:52.320 Most redheads, most blue-eyed people.

01:00:54.900 Yep.

01:00:55.980 Most redheads per cap.

01:00:56.980 As of 2022, the population in Scotland was 5.4 million.

01:01:00.500 Yeah.

01:01:00.840 Largest population ever recorded by Scotland census.

01:01:03.500 Population grew by 2.7% since the 2011 census,

01:01:07.700 which was slower rate of growth than the 4.6 increase between 2001 and 2011.

01:01:12.280 They're smashing.

01:01:12.980 They've been listening to Ed Sheeran, brother.

01:01:14.780 That's what's happening.

01:01:15.640 Get the candles lit.

01:01:16.800 Yeah, they're coming back.

01:01:17.700 They're getting lung cancer.

01:01:18.920 It's like, fuck it.

01:01:20.100 Fuck it.

01:01:21.140 I'm going to keep an atmosphere going.

01:01:22.640 They're making a comeback.

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01:05:11.820 I had a question.

01:05:15.500 Do you think that Elon and Vivek Ramaswamy will really be able to have an effect on things?

01:05:21.180 I'm interested to see.

01:05:22.760 Elon's a very pushy man.

01:05:24.660 Once he gets an idea in his head, you know, it's very difficult to get him off of it.

01:05:28.780 I'm interested to see if they can do anything.

01:05:31.100 I'm interested to see what the reaction is to it, too.

01:05:33.500 Like, what kind of resistance is there to them trying to change things?

01:05:37.280 By the actual government elected officials.

01:05:38.900 That's going to be interesting, too.

01:05:40.420 Like, sometimes you find out more by resistance than you do from—like we did with, like, the—we were talking about on the other podcast, the Trudeau thing with the truckers in Canada.

01:05:48.440 When he went after the people that donated money to the truckers and he closed their bank accounts, that's crazy fascism.

01:05:55.800 I didn't know he did that.

01:05:56.680 Yeah, that's crazy, tyrannical overreach.

01:06:00.740 That's, like, really dangerous authoritarian government tactics.

01:06:04.820 You close the bank accounts of people who donated to a peaceful protest.

01:06:09.480 So sometimes, like, in resistance, you get to see what someone's really about.

01:06:13.540 Yeah.

01:06:13.760 You know, and so I'm interested to see, well, were they already trying to kill him?

01:06:17.480 So, you know—

01:06:18.560 I know, two times.

01:06:19.400 I think even after that, they're like, we got to let him keep going.

01:06:21.860 That's the other weird one about the killing him thing, the trying to kill him, is there's all these connections.

01:06:27.820 This is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy thing.

01:06:30.440 They're all connecting him to Fort Bragg.

01:06:33.360 So there's three connections to Fort Bragg.

01:06:35.620 There's this guy who blew himself up, allegedly, in the Tesla.

01:06:39.540 There's the dude who tried to kill Trump on the golf course.

01:06:42.400 He had visited Fort Bragg a hundred times.

01:06:44.700 There's one other one.

01:06:48.280 What's the other one?

01:06:49.880 The New Orleans guy?

01:06:51.280 The New Orleans guy.

01:06:52.420 Yeah, that's right.

01:06:53.060 That's heartbreaking.

01:06:53.500 The New Orleans guy who ran over those people in the street.

01:06:55.540 That guy's from Fort Bragg as well.

01:06:57.640 And so—

01:06:58.420 I'm praying for those groups.

01:06:59.520 It's fucking heartbreaking.

01:06:59.820 What people are really terrified of is the idea of mind control and that they train people that are very vulnerable people that are all fucked up.

01:07:10.480 They train these people to become hitmen and terrorists.

01:07:15.500 And there was an undercover camera thing.

01:07:19.080 I'll send this to you, Jamie, because you see it and you're like, what the fuck?

01:07:22.720 These are real people?

01:07:23.800 Where this guy is explaining how they do this.

01:07:27.780 And he's explaining how they take people and push them over the edge.

01:07:32.720 Oh, yeah?

01:07:33.280 People that are maybe like a little bit lost and they give them a nudge to get them to do things.

01:07:41.520 Well, it all makes sense.

01:07:42.620 I mean, just like religion can find you or just like—

01:07:45.080 Sure, the government can find you when you're vulnerable.

01:07:46.980 Anything, yeah.

01:07:47.420 Something can find you when you're vulnerable.

01:07:48.980 Well, that's the kid that shot Trump.

01:07:51.480 That's what a lot of people think that is, too.

01:07:53.020 The tinfoil hat conspiracy is that they found this very vulnerable kid.

01:07:57.300 He did a BlackRock commercial and then, you know, a year and a half later, whatever it was, he's shooting at Trump off of a roof.

01:08:03.840 Yeah.

01:08:04.760 So listen to this.

01:08:05.600 So CIA agent explains how the government baits and tricks mentally unwell social media users into committing crimes they wouldn't normally commit.

01:08:15.380 And so it says you set them up.

01:08:17.320 You create the situation to where they have no choice but to act on their impulse.

01:08:21.360 And once they act on that impulse, then we call that entrapment.

01:08:24.260 We call it a nudge.

01:08:26.120 A nudge.

01:08:26.780 A nudge.

01:08:27.900 Mmm.

01:08:28.500 Sometimes you just gotta give them a quick little—just to see what happens, right?

01:08:31.700 And how does that happen?

01:08:32.400 You put a post out there or you have some fake profile say something that triggers—we know it's going to trigger them, right?

01:08:41.680 Like, we already know your history.

01:08:43.560 If we're to that point, we already know everything about it.

01:08:46.200 So we're like, oh, this will piss them off.

01:08:50.300 Sometimes you light the fuse and just wait for it to follow.

01:08:53.180 Yeah.

01:08:53.500 Nothing like putting out a fake social media thing to, like, really get people mad.

01:08:56.840 Mm-hmm.

01:08:57.900 Post fake news.

01:08:58.920 Sometimes it's fake.

01:09:00.120 It's not fake.

01:09:02.400 That's crazy.

01:09:03.240 A little bit.

01:09:04.260 So this is—the guy's name is Gavin O'Blennis and says CIA contracting officer, former FBI, San Diego.

01:09:11.480 Like, is that to protect or serve?

01:09:13.820 Like, what is that for?

01:09:14.820 You imagine that government money is being spent to manipulate vulnerable people into doing things that they wouldn't ordinarily do?

01:09:23.740 That's crazy.

01:09:24.520 I could totally imagine that.

01:09:25.800 I mean, that's what's scary about—

01:09:26.740 Why isn't always these chatty gay guys that get busted?

01:09:29.020 Well, this guy, obviously, it seems like was trying to flirt with whoever he's talking to me.

01:09:33.620 And I'm not saying the guy—

01:09:34.640 That's always what it is.

01:09:35.580 —enjoys buddies or whatever.

01:09:37.140 I'm just saying it seemed like that to me.

01:09:39.560 Yeah.

01:09:39.700 Yeah, chatty gay guys.

01:09:40.980 That's how they keep busting them.

01:09:42.420 Yeah.

01:09:42.740 They get hot guys on Grindr to go meet up with chatty gay guys.

01:09:47.500 Yeah.

01:09:47.920 I wonder how they set that up.

01:09:49.120 I wonder if you have to have a bunch of verified fucks in order for people to take you—like, where's your blue checkmark?

01:09:54.000 You gotta be really gay, buddy.

01:09:55.640 You gotta get a pink checkmark.

01:09:56.940 Someone's fucked you.

01:09:57.740 All right, this guy's legit.

01:09:58.840 Oh.

01:09:59.920 And you think there's a lot of people being fake gays or whatever to help the government?

01:10:04.500 Mm-hmm.

01:10:05.400 Oh.

01:10:05.820 Yeah.

01:10:06.400 All that James O'Keefe stuff, back when he was at Project Veritas, they'd always bust these gay guys.

01:10:11.820 James O'Keefe, the author?

01:10:12.840 No.

01:10:13.040 No.

01:10:13.960 No, the investigative journalist.

01:10:15.480 Oh, I didn't see that.

01:10:16.000 Very controversial investigative journalist that does these undercover ops where he finds—he gets one of his guys to wear a camera.

01:10:24.460 I'm thinking of Robert O'Keefe, I think.

01:10:26.180 I don't know who you're thinking of.

01:10:27.080 But James O'Keefe was with Project Veritas.

01:10:30.340 Now he's got his own thing.

01:10:32.180 What is it called?

01:10:33.340 The James O'Keefe's—OMG something?

01:10:37.080 OMG, right?

01:10:38.440 O'Keefe Media Group.

01:10:39.540 Yeah.

01:10:40.020 And so—

01:10:40.700 Looking into this guy, he might—that might—

01:10:42.860 Might be a bullshit artist?

01:10:43.920 He might have been lying just so he could get laid, you know?

01:10:46.540 That's what I felt like 100%.

01:10:48.160 This guy seems like—

01:10:49.400 Just what someone claimed to look into him and said he didn't work there.

01:10:52.060 He's VA-employed, advanced medical support assistant.

01:10:54.960 Okay, it says, this guy's my age.

01:10:58.640 He was checking in patients at the VA when I started as an FBI agent, and that was 10 years older than many.

01:11:04.280 In 2022, he was the secretary at the FBI.

01:11:07.980 Be skeptical, people.

01:11:09.060 Jeez.

01:11:09.560 Yeah.

01:11:09.700 So he might be just—well, it seemed like he was, but also he probably does know how they do it.

01:11:17.020 Maybe he's not even saying that he does it because he has a low position, but if he's explaining how the FBI does it, and he does work for the FBI.

01:11:25.200 It makes sense.

01:11:26.180 Do you think we can trust our FBI anymore?

01:11:29.140 I think you can trust some of them.

01:11:31.020 But the FBI is like people, and people in positions of power.

01:11:34.680 They get corrupted.

01:11:36.140 Some do get corrupted.

01:11:37.300 Some are great patriots.

01:11:38.520 It's just like everything else, man.

01:11:39.860 And the CIA, the same thing?

01:11:41.340 I think with every fucking group of people that are in power that don't have a lot of oversight, or where the organization itself has been corrupted.

01:11:49.300 You know, there's a lot of people that think the FBI, back in the day, not the same people alive today, of course, but it had something to do with Martin Luther King's assassination.

01:11:56.140 Oh, yeah.

01:11:56.740 You know, there's a lot of people that think they had something to do with Malcolm X's assassination.

01:12:00.920 Kennedy.

01:12:01.580 Yeah.

01:12:02.260 There's a lot of fucking theories, and I don't know the truth.

01:12:06.640 I don't know the truth.

01:12:07.560 But when you look in the January 6th thing, and you said the—didn't they admit they had 26 agents there?

01:12:12.940 Is that what they admitted to, Jamie?

01:12:14.220 Because this is the most recent discussion about what actually took place in January 6th.

01:12:20.860 Like, how many of those people?

01:12:21.800 This article is talking about, is this 20?

01:12:24.260 20.

01:12:25.680 I just wonder what—

01:12:27.000 20 agents.

01:12:27.460 What starts to happen if you don't—if as a society you don't believe and trust in—I believe that the trust overall in government and government and authority in America really as a whole is kind of starting to dissipate.

01:12:42.620 Along with the trust in the media.

01:12:45.080 Right.

01:12:45.220 So at the same time.

01:12:46.020 So then what—so where did—has that ever happened in history?

01:12:49.060 And then I'm sure it has.

01:12:50.060 And where do we go from here?

01:12:52.600 Well, we've never lived in a time.

01:12:54.700 I guess that's too big of a question.

01:12:55.120 When you say, has it ever happened in history, sure, things have fallen apart before.

01:12:59.360 But has it ever come back together again?

01:13:01.740 Maybe not, but maybe it didn't have the internet back then.

01:13:04.600 Right.

01:13:04.820 So what people are looking at, like with Trudeau resigning and Trump winning and then, you know, all this talk of Robert Kennedy getting in, the Make America Healthy Again movement, like, that we might be able to see legitimate change this go-around.

01:13:17.880 Like, with Vivek and Elon being in charge of government efficiency, we might be able to see—I'm hopeful.

01:13:24.060 I'm really hopeful for the first time in a long time.

01:13:26.300 But I'm curious to see what can actually get done.

01:13:28.780 Who do they have to answer to, Vivek and Elon?

01:13:30.660 Who do they have to first present stuff to?

01:13:33.220 Somebody said it was Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:13:34.940 Is that true, or is somebody who made that up?

01:13:36.360 It is. They're in.

01:13:39.840 I met her at a party, actually.

01:13:41.460 Yeah? Did you?

01:13:42.200 I didn't know that it was her.

01:13:43.180 I don't know, like, a ton about politics, but it was definitely interesting, though.

01:13:46.940 I'm fucking sure.

01:13:48.260 Tucker had that party for ALP.

01:13:49.900 He has, like, a new—

01:13:50.760 Yeah, his nicotine pouches.

01:13:52.480 They're good.

01:13:53.480 I haven't done them.

01:13:54.720 They're legit?

01:13:55.620 But, yeah, it seemed cool.

01:13:57.680 Mel Gibson was there.

01:13:58.400 That was pretty cool.

01:13:58.880 So I went without nicotine pouches for five days.

01:14:01.580 See what that was like?

01:14:02.540 What happened?

01:14:03.620 When I tried the eights, when I came back, I got these loosies, these breakers, the eights.

01:14:08.640 I couldn't take it.

01:14:09.700 It was too much.

01:14:10.680 Because five days off, I was like, whoa, this is too much.

01:14:13.060 And what happened?

01:14:13.580 Did you get to sit down somewhere?

01:14:14.500 Did you just—

01:14:14.980 I got to take it out of my mouth.

01:14:16.580 Then I switched to these threes.

01:14:18.580 I'm on this athletic nicotine, these threes.

01:14:21.860 So I've been taking these while I do podcasts, but completely killed my desire to just pop

01:14:26.480 them in throughout the day.

01:14:27.720 Yeah.

01:14:27.940 Because I was used to the eights, so I was popping them eights all day long.

01:14:31.000 But then I realized when I wasn't taking them for the five days, I'm like, ooh, I'm a lot

01:14:34.160 more calm.

01:14:35.060 Yeah.

01:14:35.460 I'm a lot less ramped up.

01:14:36.900 I'm like, I don't need to be ramped up while I'm on vacation.

01:14:38.980 I don't have to do any podcasts.

01:14:40.440 Yeah.

01:14:40.960 You know?

01:14:41.300 I don't need to be alive as much.

01:14:42.780 I don't—well, I just mean—I mean, enjoy.

01:14:45.660 Just be chill.

01:14:46.540 Why be alert?

01:14:47.560 Why be so alert?

01:14:48.420 Yeah.

01:14:51.720 Thing is, you get used to being so alert, and then you want them all the time.

01:14:54.960 Want them before I lift?

01:14:55.840 Fucking give me an eight before I lift.

01:14:56.900 Oh, I want something all the fucking time, dude.

01:14:59.000 Yeah.

01:14:59.560 I want a fucking—

01:15:00.340 Want another sniff?

01:15:00.740 I wish I had that trach hole.

01:15:02.080 I'd just fucking—

01:15:02.620 Want another sniff?

01:15:03.340 Boof shit right into my neck all day.

01:15:04.960 Yeah.

01:15:05.340 I'll take whatever you got, boy.

01:15:06.640 Here we fucking go.

01:15:07.980 Here we go.

01:15:08.220 I heard a buddy the other day saying he's sober.

01:15:10.740 Call your hand, dude.

01:15:12.500 Oh.

01:15:15.100 Wow.

01:15:15.840 You look like a Jets fan.

01:15:16.940 I'm, like, looking at fireworks right now.

01:15:19.680 My eyes are closed.

01:15:20.760 It's just fireworks.

01:15:22.240 Oh, yeah.

01:15:22.960 Give me some of the—

01:15:23.400 It's dying off.

01:15:24.240 Ooh, fireworks.

01:15:24.260 Katie Perry dust, buddy.

01:15:26.860 Oh, Joey, you want to see me ride it, don't you, love it?

01:15:29.480 Imagine if Katie Perry takes her panties off.

01:15:31.720 Mmm.

01:15:33.120 And that's it.

01:15:34.020 Oh, no.

01:15:35.080 And I shouldn't have said the first part either, because she's married.

01:15:37.220 But she said Katie Perry does this.

01:15:38.660 Yes.

01:15:39.140 Be respectful.

01:15:39.920 I am.

01:15:40.380 Let's imagine not a real Katie Perry, but a robot Katie Perry, because that's coming.

01:15:44.480 Yeah, and we met Katherine Perry, who grew up—

01:15:46.920 Different gal.

01:15:47.520 She's from Toledo.

01:15:48.860 She's the girl that got body slammed.

01:15:52.260 Take a snap.

01:15:53.720 Oh, you went deep, son.

01:15:56.300 You went so deep.

01:15:57.580 You got that into your hairs.

01:15:59.260 Here, give me that back before you hurt yourself.

01:16:00.840 Cow money.

01:16:02.200 You were reluctant to give it back.

01:16:03.460 You were thinking about going again.

01:16:04.420 I'll fucking go again, boy.

01:16:06.920 Huh?

01:16:07.780 Really?

01:16:08.680 Yeah, dude.

01:16:09.340 I'll do one more little one.

01:16:14.320 I'm going to do a big one, dog.

01:16:16.820 We ready.

01:16:19.680 We ready.

01:16:23.100 We're going to shake it.

01:16:27.140 Oh, my God.

01:16:28.260 What have you done?

01:16:30.580 Play the pipes, Joey Rogan.

01:16:34.440 Darius, you're aliens, Joe.

01:16:35.860 Oh, Jesus, son.

01:16:42.240 Oh, fuck.

01:16:48.040 That shit will turn you into a raccoon, baby boy.

01:16:50.320 Dude, you know the worst thing was?

01:16:52.100 Besides that?

01:16:54.260 Your eyes, when you close your eyes, did you see fireworks?

01:16:57.260 Yeah.

01:16:57.880 Like, when I closed my eyes, it was like my whole—it was all lit up.

01:17:01.520 It reminds me of that thing.

01:17:03.980 Have you ever seen that game show?

01:17:05.260 It's, um, Sauce Challenge or whatever.

01:17:08.220 What?

01:17:08.960 Hot Sauce Challenge.

01:17:10.140 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:10.980 Hot Wings.

01:17:11.440 Hot Wings, right?

01:17:12.100 Hot Ones.

01:17:12.260 Hot Ones.

01:17:12.900 Hot Ones.

01:17:14.160 Have you ever done that?

01:17:15.380 Yeah, I did it a few years ago.

01:17:17.200 And it was a great—that guy, Sean Evans, is a great guy.

01:17:19.660 That's all I hear about him.

01:17:21.040 Everybody says he's a nice guy.

01:17:22.300 He's so smart.

01:17:23.160 And he's just a nice dude.

01:17:25.380 But people are always like, how are the sauces?

01:17:27.400 Well, seven of them are sauces.

01:17:29.160 A couple of them are fucking shit.

01:17:31.460 You used to clean this out of a boat, you know?

01:17:33.520 It's like—it's like—like, sauces went into that weird realm where it was like, we

01:17:39.720 just want to burn a hole in you kind of thing, you know?

01:17:42.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:42.860 And so some of them got to be very—I don't want to get sued for saying that.

01:17:47.780 Can I say that?

01:17:48.180 I'm just joking, right?

01:17:49.340 Yeah, you're just joking.

01:17:50.280 But they were like—some of them were like, oh, this isn't—I wouldn't put this on anything.

01:17:53.800 Right, it's too strong.

01:17:54.720 It's not a sauce.

01:17:55.860 It's just like a chemical, it felt like.

01:17:57.640 Yeah, it's dangerous.

01:17:58.420 Yeah.

01:17:59.160 What about that one chip challenge?

01:18:00.600 You ever try that?

01:18:01.540 I did that.

01:18:02.000 It's fun.

01:18:02.520 It's preposterous.

01:18:03.720 It's nice.

01:18:04.200 Yeah, it's like a Mexican Christmas type of thing.

01:18:05.940 I think it comes out every year.

01:18:06.820 But the chips are stale and bullshit, though.

01:18:08.340 That's what was terrible.

01:18:09.160 The chips are bullshit.

01:18:09.780 It's just a gateway drug for spice or whatever.

01:18:11.640 But I feel like it was just a way to reuse shitty old chips that had gone bad.

01:18:16.220 That's what it felt like to me.

01:18:17.380 Like, whoever did it is a goddamn genius.

01:18:19.060 Because that's—I was offended by the fact that the chip was so dry.

01:18:23.580 Yeah.

01:18:24.200 I was like, look, you could do this with a Dorito and it wouldn't be as offensive.

01:18:27.500 You know, one thing about Doritos, every time you open those bitches, it's the same.

01:18:32.060 I know they're using seed oils and a bunch of chemicals, but guess what?

01:18:35.880 I don't eat Doritos all the time.

01:18:37.960 But I had a bag of Doritos five days ago, and guess what?

01:18:41.960 I enjoyed it.

01:18:43.980 It was Cool Ranch.

01:18:45.120 Oh, they're so good.

01:18:46.240 They were good.

01:18:47.020 I remember when they came out with those, people couldn't even fucking didn't know what

01:18:49.540 to do.

01:18:50.040 They couldn't stop eating.

01:18:50.700 I remember our stepdad came back for like a week when they came out.

01:18:53.300 And he's like, yeah, everything's going to be fine.

01:18:55.980 Cool Ranch.

01:18:56.900 Fuck, they were good.

01:18:57.760 A little bit of queso.

01:18:58.840 Oh, dude.

01:18:59.340 Cool Ranch was good.

01:19:00.340 I remember—I'm trying to think of the early—

01:19:03.260 Nacho cheese.

01:19:03.940 Balls.

01:19:04.560 Those were good.

01:19:06.260 Those were good.

01:19:06.980 You can't outlaw that stuff.

01:19:08.180 Just because some people have no self-control.

01:19:10.160 Do you think—are some people going to start to be like, oh, shit, this guy's going to

01:19:13.800 take away Chick-fil-A like you were saying?

01:19:16.220 Yeah.

01:19:17.060 We can't let that happen.

01:19:18.740 Well, we can't now go against Bobby Kennedy Jr.

01:19:20.980 Yeah, we have to.

01:19:21.720 We have to fight him.

01:19:22.780 It's the same thing.

01:19:23.720 Remember J. Lenin was the Doritos guy?

01:19:25.780 J. Lenin was selling Doritos.

01:19:27.680 I think that's when Bill Hicks started attacking him.

01:19:30.180 They didn't get along?

01:19:31.420 No.

01:19:32.600 No.

01:19:32.820 I didn't know that.

01:19:33.300 Did you ever meet Bill Hicks?

01:19:34.560 I never met him.

01:19:35.620 I saw him live twice.

01:19:38.340 Two or three times.

01:19:39.440 I think three times.

01:19:40.720 But I said hi to him.

01:19:42.940 Like, you know, like that.

01:19:44.480 Like, hey, what's up?

01:19:44.980 Was he, like, famous when you saw him?

01:19:46.640 He was famous for comedians.

01:19:48.520 He was famous—he had been on Rodney Dangerfield's Young Comedian special, and that was a big

01:19:53.020 deal back then.

01:19:53.800 This was before he even had his big HBO special.

01:19:57.680 He was just this weird guy who was connected to Kinnison.

01:20:02.120 And then the first time I saw him live, I was like, holy shit.

01:20:06.320 He was doing things that are so different than any of the other comedy that was popular

01:20:11.580 back then.

01:20:12.400 It was all like—he had something to say about things.

01:20:16.400 It was like cultural—it was like cultural commentary with jokes.

01:20:22.060 But the cultural commentary was as much of a part as what he was saying was the fact

01:20:25.820 that it was funny.

01:20:26.600 That was totally unique.

01:20:28.200 And then it became a thing where everybody was copying him.

01:20:31.340 Oh, really?

01:20:31.920 Yeah.

01:20:32.520 So he was like one of those guys that people just started being like—without even—you

01:20:35.460 think without even realizing it?

01:20:36.560 Yeah, without realizing it and realizing it and just openly plagiarizing him.

01:20:40.380 He was very plagiarized by a bunch of people.

01:20:42.480 But he was just doing something different because his interests were different.

01:20:46.700 He was following his interests.

01:20:48.480 Yeah.

01:20:48.720 You know?

01:20:49.440 That's what he was interested in talking about.

01:20:51.340 And he was touring so much that he was working so much that he had so much material because

01:20:56.640 he was just constantly playing in all these places.

01:20:59.320 And unlike a lot of like really respected comedians, he didn't do his tours in the big cities.

01:21:05.720 He was like touring around the deep south.

01:21:08.280 You know?

01:21:08.500 He called it his flying saucer tour because everywhere he would tour was where flying saucers

01:21:13.620 would be spotted.

01:21:14.560 Like these weird fucked up cities.

01:21:16.680 And so he developed this like really intelligent act that would work on dumb crowds.

01:21:21.520 Huh.

01:21:21.740 Very unique guy.

01:21:23.340 Like lowbrow high art kind of stuff or something.

01:21:26.040 Well, some of it was lowbrow.

01:21:27.440 Some of it was highbrow.

01:21:28.480 Some of it was just funny.

01:21:30.300 Great social commentary on the war.

01:21:32.540 You know?

01:21:32.740 He was just great.

01:21:33.740 It was just a different thing.

01:21:35.000 I mean, he wasn't as like laugh out loud funny as like Richard Jenny.

01:21:38.480 But I remember me and Richard Jenny watched him once and he said, God, every time I see

01:21:41.800 that guy, I'm like, I got to do more of that.

01:21:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:44.840 Richard Jenny said that.

01:21:45.960 I saw him say it.

01:21:47.340 And so I'm like, wow.

01:21:48.360 Richard Jenny to me at that time was one of the greatest comics alive.

01:21:52.660 He was so good in the 1980s.

01:21:54.900 Like people don't realize.

01:21:56.040 I've told this story before, but just for you.

01:21:58.480 There's one time he was at the Eastside Comedy Club.

01:22:01.560 And Eastside Comedy Club was a big comedy club in Long Island.

01:22:05.180 Great club.

01:22:05.980 Awesome club.

01:22:06.660 Richie Menervini used to own it.

01:22:08.340 And we were there on Sunday and the dude who was the MC over the weekend was depressed.

01:22:14.420 He was like, Richard Jenny did four different hours.

01:22:17.220 And he goes, he didn't repeat a joke once and every hour he killed.

01:22:21.340 He goes, he did four completely different hours.

01:22:23.300 And no one could do that back then.

01:22:25.040 So for Richard Jenny to tell me that he was watching Bill Hicks, like, I got to do more

01:22:29.300 of that.

01:22:29.640 Wow.

01:22:30.040 Like, that's how influential he was.

01:22:33.180 Did you see George Carlin perform then too?

01:22:35.760 Yeah, I saw George perform a bunch of times.

01:22:37.960 I saw George perform in a time where he wasn't doing so good.

01:22:40.900 He was struggling with the drugs, you think?

01:22:42.600 I don't know, man.

01:22:43.440 I saw him bomb in New Hampshire.

01:22:45.740 I took my roommates to a casino.

01:22:47.620 Saw him play in a casino in New Hampshire and he fucking ate shit.

01:22:51.440 It was weird.

01:22:52.620 It was weird.

01:22:53.200 It's like it wasn't worked out.

01:22:54.840 Yeah.

01:22:54.980 It's like he would go on stage with notebooks and he was just kind of like working out

01:22:59.980 ideas.

01:23:00.540 He had a very different way of doing comedy.

01:23:02.980 Like, his way of doing comedy was he would write everything out and then he would bring

01:23:07.460 notebooks on stage and perform it as he wrote it.

01:23:10.740 Like, he didn't do it almost like doing a one-man show.

01:23:13.760 And then every year he would film it for HBO.

01:23:16.280 Damn.

01:23:16.740 Yeah.

01:23:17.540 It was a totally different style of doing comedy.

01:23:19.660 And so he went through periods of time where he was doing real well and he was real funny.

01:23:23.520 And then he went through some dark times where he was bombing a lot.

01:23:26.300 And that's unfortunately the first time I saw him.

01:23:30.420 Have you ever seen Roll Tide Willie?

01:23:34.200 That guy.

01:23:36.180 Who's that?

01:23:37.480 Do you know what that is?

01:23:38.140 I'll put you on him.

01:23:40.340 I guess he's kind of a comedian now.

01:23:42.140 He played football for Alabama and then he got injured.

01:23:46.120 He was in the military.

01:23:50.580 Let's see if you can pull up something of him.

01:23:53.700 So what does he do?

01:23:54.260 Does he just say his crazy things?

01:23:55.320 He loves Alabama.

01:23:56.300 He's like a...

01:23:57.140 Like a mascot?

01:23:59.900 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:00.260 He's like a mascot.

01:24:01.660 He likes alcohol.

01:24:03.280 He looks like he likes alcohol.

01:24:04.900 Yeah.

01:24:05.100 I'm sitting here watching and waiting on to buy my game.

01:24:09.280 Look right here on this side.

01:24:11.040 Chilling.

01:24:11.980 Chilling.

01:24:13.160 Don't give a piss.

01:24:16.460 Don't give a piss about nothing but the Tide.

01:24:20.480 What you doing?

01:24:21.360 The Tide.

01:24:21.960 Alabama Tide.

01:24:22.840 He likes.

01:24:23.360 Wow.

01:24:23.740 That's one of his favorites.

01:24:24.540 Yeah.

01:24:24.600 He's a...

01:24:24.880 You gotta give people the freedom to not give a fuck about anything but the Tide.

01:24:28.160 Right?

01:24:29.240 That's one of the...

01:24:30.100 Right?

01:24:31.340 If you're gonna have transgenders going into the men's room or the women's room, you're

01:24:34.960 gonna have to have that guy too.

01:24:36.100 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:36.700 You gotta give...

01:24:37.940 You gotta be tolerant of that guy.

01:24:40.460 Oh, 100%, man.

01:24:41.460 How come you're not?

01:24:42.380 Yeah.

01:24:42.960 Why are you so judgmental?

01:24:44.120 Yeah.

01:24:45.020 Like that guy.

01:24:46.040 Have some tolerance.

01:24:46.720 Yeah, he served for our country too.

01:24:48.400 Did he?

01:24:48.820 Yeah.

01:24:49.260 He got injured in the...

01:24:50.520 Or I think he got injured.

01:24:53.040 He was in the military with my friend's dad.

01:24:55.720 But he...

01:24:56.920 I think he played at the University of Alabama, but now he's like the biggest fan.

01:25:01.060 But he's kind of a...

01:25:03.060 Yeah, a mascot for Alabama.

01:25:05.080 He's like the...

01:25:05.760 They call it...

01:25:06.400 He goes by Roll Tide Willie.

01:25:08.280 Hmm.

01:25:08.820 Okay.

01:25:09.420 So just so you know who he is.

01:25:10.240 Why did you want to bring him up?

01:25:12.760 I don't know.

01:25:13.860 Just came to mind?

01:25:14.980 Yeah.

01:25:15.280 I just think we're just talking about...

01:25:16.160 What were we talking about?

01:25:16.580 Oh, comedians, entertainers.

01:25:18.140 I think entertainment's getting interesting because a lot of people are getting entertainers

01:25:21.340 too just off of social media reels, right?

01:25:24.160 Right.

01:25:24.440 So it's like you're finding somebody...

01:25:25.900 You might want to watch like Jessica McGowan or something or...

01:25:32.060 Who's that?

01:25:33.560 Shit.

01:25:34.080 The lady from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you know what I'm talking about?

01:25:36.160 Or, you know...

01:25:37.400 Gwyneth Paltrow.

01:25:40.120 Gwyneth Paltrow or watch like a...

01:25:43.400 Or watch Roll Tide Willie.

01:25:45.840 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:46.220 It's just so...

01:25:46.900 It's...

01:25:48.140 Entertainment's just super interesting now.

01:25:50.000 Well, it's definitely open to more things, right?

01:25:52.520 Like Tim Dillon turned me on to that family in New Jersey that goes to Costco and yells

01:25:57.520 out about cookies.

01:25:58.620 Oh, the booms.

01:25:59.860 Yeah.

01:26:00.300 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:00.900 Yeah.

01:26:01.040 That's unfortunate, right?

01:26:02.480 I mean, that's crazy.

01:26:05.520 We saw how many millions of people watch that.

01:26:08.000 Like, that's way more than watch CNN.

01:26:09.480 We bring the boom!

01:26:10.640 Yeah, that kid.

01:26:11.520 And the one kid I heard didn't even make good grades, unfortunately, which is like...

01:26:14.840 Why should he?

01:26:15.460 Well, he's not even in school.

01:26:16.320 Why should he?

01:26:17.240 Yeah.

01:26:17.380 He's gonna make that Costco TikTok money.

01:26:19.860 They better not ban TikTok.

01:26:21.220 Imagine that family becomes homeless.

01:26:22.720 Yeah.

01:26:23.080 Because some heartless politicians decide to stop that Chinese spyware.

01:26:26.660 How about let those morons stay on that shit?

01:26:29.100 Let them steal their passwords.

01:26:30.400 Yeah.

01:26:30.840 Let them go boom.

01:26:32.140 Dude, I'm on there.

01:26:34.060 You should be.

01:26:35.240 But they're taking all...

01:26:36.260 They're taking...

01:26:37.200 But, yeah, I guess I'm wondering sometimes, what are the Chinese?

01:26:39.480 He's actually taking that they don't already have for me.

01:26:41.460 Except, I mean, they could geolocate me.

01:26:43.600 Your DNA.

01:26:44.380 They're gonna clone you.

01:26:45.720 You're gonna be like Alex Jones.

01:26:46.820 They're gonna have a different version of you.

01:26:48.340 Half my family's in recovery.

01:26:49.620 You can have it, bud.

01:26:52.040 You can fucking have it, dude.

01:26:56.580 Do you think any of those drones are Chinese?

01:26:58.100 How could we have, in our airspace, a drone from another country and we don't know it?

01:27:04.940 That's what I...

01:27:05.820 Is it that we don't know it or we can't do anything about it?

01:27:10.060 Oh, we could do something about it.

01:27:12.060 Well, you have to decide to do something about it.

01:27:14.400 And the Biden administration doesn't seem like they're the type that would just be shooting shit out of the sky.

01:27:19.380 That's a good point.

01:27:20.380 Whereas Trump, that motherfucker will shoot some shit out of the sky.

01:27:24.820 You know, they didn't tell him about some of the balloons that China had circling the country

01:27:28.440 because they were worried he was gonna have them shot out of the sky.

01:27:30.720 No way.

01:27:31.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:32.080 They openly admitted that they didn't tell Trump about some of the balloons.

01:27:35.400 Remember when they shot that balloon out of the sky?

01:27:36.900 Yeah.

01:27:37.500 When they shot that balloon out of the sky, we were talking about this the other day,

01:27:40.280 they missed.

01:27:41.780 One of those missiles missed.

01:27:43.740 And went where?

01:27:44.560 Who fucking knows?

01:27:46.340 Oh.

01:27:47.160 I'll tell you.

01:27:47.980 It's like New Year's Eve in San Antonio, dude.

01:27:50.180 Imagine if you're hiking.

01:27:51.620 You're out there in the wilderness.

01:27:52.760 Like, this is amazing.

01:27:53.660 I've got my jet boil.

01:27:54.920 I'm gonna cook up some ramen tonight.

01:27:57.660 Yeah, I ate Thomas.

01:27:58.560 And shh, boom, right in the face.

01:28:01.780 Right in the face.

01:28:03.020 A missile that was meant for a Chinese balloon.

01:28:05.360 And they're never gonna admit to that.

01:28:06.540 They'll say it was, yeah.

01:28:07.300 You vanished.

01:28:08.140 Yeah.

01:28:08.460 There's nothing to even test.

01:28:09.620 You'll be on one of those 411 documentaries or something.

01:28:11.920 Bro, you get hit in the face with a missile, there's nothing left.

01:28:14.920 That's on you, too, dude.

01:28:16.000 There's nothing left.

01:28:16.920 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:17.420 They don't even know you were there.

01:28:19.060 You just, you got ate by wolves.

01:28:21.520 Who knows what happened to you?

01:28:22.500 God, baby girl is gone.

01:28:23.960 You're gone.

01:28:24.740 Yeah.

01:28:24.860 There's nothing.

01:28:25.420 You're pink mist.

01:28:27.040 They're gonna scrape you off the leaves, do a DNA test.

01:28:30.920 Yeah, dude.

01:28:32.160 You get hit with a missile out of a fucking fighter jet?

01:28:35.340 There wouldn't be enough, there'd be barely enough for a wolf to lick a little bit

01:28:38.260 of you off a rock.

01:28:39.060 Okay, let's imagine that Beirut bomb.

01:28:41.680 Okay.

01:28:42.000 That Beirut bomb.

01:28:42.900 What do you do?

01:28:43.420 You see it falling, what do you do?

01:28:44.720 You don't do anything.

01:28:46.140 You gotta do something.

01:28:46.980 You don't do a thing.

01:28:48.280 You just go, oh no, and then you vaporize.

01:28:51.180 You prepare yourself for the next dimension.

01:28:52.920 How long do you get?

01:28:53.740 You don't get any time at all.

01:28:56.080 Come on, man.

01:28:56.360 It just happens so fast.

01:28:57.560 If you're in the epicenter of one of those bombs and it just goes off, you don't have

01:29:01.880 any time.

01:29:02.660 It's just, boom, vaporize.

01:29:04.560 The whole city's vaporized.

01:29:05.720 What if you're 2,000 yards off?

01:29:09.040 You might live.

01:29:10.160 Who knows?

01:29:10.680 You might be behind a fucking building and the building might stay up and you just get

01:29:15.040 your eardrum's blown out and you get the kind of concussion that you usually get from a

01:29:19.540 horrible car accident.

01:29:21.340 Who knows?

01:29:22.680 I would imagine there's like a level where you could be far enough away where it's not

01:29:27.340 death, like instant death.

01:29:29.000 But where's that level?

01:29:30.360 Where is it?

01:29:30.920 It's not close.

01:29:31.780 Close, you're dead for sure.

01:29:33.200 So like how far out do you have to be where now you're deaf for the rest of your life?

01:29:37.980 Now you can't see.

01:29:39.160 Who knows?

01:29:39.960 Now you have no memory of your childhood.

01:29:42.100 It's like a concussion of epic proportions, even if you survive, depending on how far

01:29:47.120 out you are.

01:29:48.180 And then, you know, you get far out enough that it doesn't affect you at all.

01:29:51.200 You can see it from a distance.

01:29:52.300 That's got to be crazy too, to know that you could have just been over there and you would

01:29:55.240 have been vaporized.

01:29:57.960 Do you hear about the dude that survived Hiroshima and then he went to Nagasaki to work and then

01:30:02.540 he survived Nagasaki?

01:30:05.020 He survived both of them?

01:30:06.120 He just survived both of them.

01:30:07.240 Still alive?

01:30:07.900 Still alive.

01:30:08.480 I think he died recently.

01:30:09.540 But this dude, he went from, yeah, I think he died a while ago now that I'm thinking

01:30:14.520 about it.

01:30:15.080 This dude went, he was in Hiroshima, bomb blew up, killed, you know, how many people?

01:30:21.080 150,000 people instantaneously.

01:30:23.380 Uh-huh.

01:30:23.760 He escapes, gets out, goes to Nagasaki to work.

01:30:27.420 Nagasaki gets hit.

01:30:30.340 It was less than two miles from the blast stones of both bombs.

01:30:33.440 Jeez.

01:30:34.040 And did he say how he survived each time?

01:30:36.720 What was the guy's name?

01:30:38.500 I can't pronounce the first name.

01:30:40.080 I'll show you.

01:30:40.540 Give him some credit.

01:30:41.480 Give Theo a shot at it.

01:30:44.340 What's his name there?

01:30:46.500 Uh, some, some Tomo, Sutomo Yamaguchi.

01:30:51.500 Yeah.

01:30:53.020 Tutsumo Yamaguchi.

01:30:54.520 Tutsumo Yamaguchi.

01:30:55.760 There's been quite a few fires named Yamaguchi.

01:30:57.880 Two, two files.

01:30:58.920 Less than two miles from the blast zones of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings and miraculously

01:31:03.860 survived both without debilitating injuries.

01:31:06.420 My double radiation exposure is now an official government record, Yamaguchi said.

01:31:10.460 I can tell you the younger generation, the horrifying history of the atomic bombings even before

01:31:14.220 I die.

01:31:15.320 Do you think we should have done that, Joe, that bomb?

01:31:17.920 Wow, he lived, he died of stomach cancer at 93.

01:31:21.400 Oh my God.

01:31:22.720 That's incredible.

01:31:23.400 He lived that long.

01:31:24.240 Yeah.

01:31:24.460 Stomach cancer.

01:31:26.540 One of us because of the bomb.

01:31:28.480 I mean, he died at 93.

01:31:30.500 But some Asians live very long.

01:31:33.320 You can get 120 years out of an Asian.

01:31:34.740 Do I think we should have dropped the bomb on people?

01:31:36.880 No.

01:31:37.380 Yeah, me neither.

01:31:37.980 No, it's fucking insane.

01:31:39.880 It's so insane.

01:31:41.100 But it just goes to show you that somewhere inside of us, there's an evil that will be

01:31:44.640 evil, you know?

01:31:45.620 Bro, look at this.

01:31:47.580 No, go up.

01:31:48.360 Go up.

01:31:49.040 Go up.

01:31:49.640 He opposed the country's role in World War II and became so despondent about the war

01:31:53.580 that he considered killing his wife and infant son with sleeping pills if Japan lost.

01:31:59.040 Holy fuck, dude.

01:32:00.400 Company, man.

01:32:01.500 Jesus Christ, that's so scary.

01:32:03.360 It's heartbreaking.

01:32:04.720 He said the sky was lit with a blaze, the lightning of a huge magnesium flare.

01:32:09.640 I think he saw the plane coming.

01:32:11.080 Oh my God.

01:32:12.620 No.

01:32:12.800 He saw the Enola Gay fly over Hiroshima and drop an item carried by two parachutes.

01:32:18.360 Suddenly, he said the sky lit with a blaze.

01:32:20.920 Oh my God.

01:32:21.940 Do you have a bomb shelter?

01:32:23.000 Joe, do you have a bomb shelter at home?

01:32:24.940 I should probably get one.

01:32:25.600 But I really think that if a nuclear war breaks out, you really want to be like right where

01:32:30.180 the nuke hits.

01:32:31.700 You want to end.

01:32:32.420 You don't want to be male.

01:32:33.140 You don't want to live in a zombie apocalypse, like post-war.

01:32:36.920 Check this.

01:32:37.680 What am I wearing?

01:32:39.040 I think I fainted for a while.

01:32:40.460 No, no, above.

01:32:40.880 Oh, the ground roared and an ear-shattering noise ripped through the air, tossing Yamaguchi

01:32:45.860 into the air as a fireball imploded overhead.

01:32:49.080 He was dropped face first into a muddy furrow.

01:32:51.920 The protective measures he took likely saved his life.

01:32:54.520 A woman who had been walking beside him shortly before the blast disappeared altogether.

01:32:58.880 Wow.

01:33:00.120 I think I fainted for a while.

01:33:01.620 When I opened my eyes, everything was dark.

01:33:03.560 I couldn't see much.

01:33:04.420 It was like the start of a film at the cinema before the picture has begun, when the blank

01:33:08.120 frames are just flashing up without any sound.

01:33:11.500 Unreal.

01:33:12.460 Fuck, dude.

01:33:13.180 Look at it look like.

01:33:14.740 Look at that.

01:33:15.060 Fuck.

01:33:15.760 Can you even fathom one second it looks one way, and the next second it looks another way?

01:33:20.120 And no one's ever done this before that we know of on Earth.

01:33:24.020 And then they just decided to drop it on a city.

01:33:28.400 Jesus.

01:33:28.960 And they did it again.

01:33:30.200 Boom, boom.

01:33:31.760 The scene in the Oppenheimer when they're deciding where to do it, if that's how it went down,

01:33:35.260 is crazy.

01:33:36.140 Nuts.

01:33:36.820 I gotta watch that.

01:33:37.580 That movie's crazy.

01:33:38.760 Is it?

01:33:39.140 It's crazy.

01:33:40.180 Yeah, because you get to see, first of all, that dude, Cillian Murphy, that guy's incredible.

01:33:47.360 He's incredible.

01:33:48.640 Yeah, he's good.

01:33:49.480 That's the dude from the Peaky Blinders?

01:33:50.820 Oh, yeah.

01:33:51.260 He's so good.

01:33:52.660 He's such a good actor.

01:33:55.000 And so he nailed this tortured genius Oppenheimer in this creation that he made.

01:34:01.500 It'd be so scary.

01:34:02.500 Something you thought was probably for a purpose in the beginning, and then you changed your mind

01:34:06.020 during it.

01:34:06.280 Well, also, you have to do it, because if you don't do it, if the Germans get it, they're

01:34:09.660 going to kill everybody.

01:34:12.400 Still wounded and heavily banished, Yamaguchi returned to work on August 9, the day Nagasaki

01:34:18.040 was bombed.

01:34:19.380 He was providing his supervisor a detailed account of the Hiroshima bombing when the landscape

01:34:23.800 outside the office suddenly lit up in a blinding light, and Yamaguchi fell to the floor as shockwaves destroyed the windows.

01:34:31.080 Suddenly, the same white light filled the room, he later recalled.

01:34:34.200 I thought the mushroom cloud had followed me from Hiroshima.

01:34:36.980 Wow.

01:34:40.360 That's crazy.

01:34:41.100 That's when you just got it.

01:34:41.880 You talk about it, and it happens again.

01:34:43.300 That's crazy.

01:34:44.720 A reinforced stairwell in the office protected the conference room where Yamaguchi and his

01:34:48.300 colleagues were.

01:34:48.780 Jesus Christ.

01:34:51.380 They just heard his story, and it says someone took cover in a manner similar to how he described

01:34:56.240 in Hiroshima.

01:34:57.360 His wife was soaked in black rain and was poisoned.

01:35:00.700 As their daughter later recalled, in the subsequent weeks, Yamaguchi suffered high fevers, severe

01:35:05.160 hair loss, continuous vomiting, and other symptoms from radiation poisoning.

01:35:10.260 Motherfucker, dude.

01:35:11.560 How much would have to happen in America for things to get to a place where people are

01:35:15.340 just like, every man for himself?

01:35:17.880 Like, do you feel like...

01:35:18.540 Like that.

01:35:18.820 Like that kind of thing.

01:35:20.020 Power going out.

01:35:21.480 Yeah.

01:35:22.320 What keeps us together is electricity right now.

01:35:24.840 The way society is structured.

01:35:26.380 We are so dependent upon electricity that without electricity, we don't have anything.

01:35:30.740 We don't have any cooling.

01:35:31.820 We have no ice.

01:35:33.000 We have no way of processing water.

01:35:36.620 Yeah.

01:35:37.080 We're fucked.

01:35:37.780 Without electricity, we have no transportation.

01:35:39.700 We're really fucked without electricity.

01:35:43.380 Electricity without oil, without any fuel at all, we're doomed.

01:35:47.380 We're fucking doomed.

01:35:48.860 And all we have is burning things.

01:35:50.540 And do you think for the first day, people would be kind of organized?

01:35:53.360 Like, let's see what happens here, watching the news.

01:35:55.060 And then the second day, shit would get AWOL.

01:35:56.800 Like, how quick would people...

01:35:58.480 As soon as people ran out of food.

01:36:00.620 And that doesn't take long.

01:36:02.320 That's a few days.

01:36:04.300 It's a few days.

01:36:05.580 And then everyone's like, oh, I'm going to get a rifle, learn how to hunt.

01:36:08.600 Good luck.

01:36:09.700 Not at the last minute.

01:36:10.720 What are you going to put in an ad at the last minute?

01:36:12.380 Sorry it's so late, guys.

01:36:13.940 Need to learn how to hunt or whatever.

01:36:15.440 Now, by the way, if everybody goes hunting, here's the dirty secret about hunting.

01:36:19.300 The reason why hunting works is because everybody doesn't hunt.

01:36:22.100 If everybody hunted, there'd be no more animals.

01:36:24.160 They almost did that in the 1800s, man.

01:36:26.420 They started doing what they call market hunting.

01:36:29.020 And market hunting almost wiped out everything in this country.

01:36:33.000 Almost wiped out all the elk.

01:36:35.140 Wiped out most of the buffalo.

01:36:36.980 Almost wiped out white-tailed deer.

01:36:38.520 Really?

01:36:39.200 Yeah, man.

01:36:39.840 Because people were hunting them.

01:36:41.760 They could hunt as much as they wanted?

01:36:42.880 As much as they wanted.

01:36:43.640 There was no regulation.

01:36:44.660 And they were selling the meat.

01:36:45.940 And there was no refrigeration.

01:36:47.560 So you have to kill them all the time.

01:36:49.100 Oh.

01:36:49.420 So they would hire professional hunters, and that's how they would get their meat.

01:36:52.780 And they were just devastating populations of animals.

01:36:55.880 I mean, you've seen the piles of buffalo bones, right?

01:36:59.400 Terrifying.

01:37:00.160 They killed millions of buffalo in a few years.

01:37:02.860 They brought the herds down to nothing in a few years.

01:37:06.240 Got that close to total extinction.

01:37:08.560 And was that because people were, like, expanding west and they needed food?

01:37:11.900 They needed food.

01:37:13.120 They needed the skins.

01:37:14.520 They wanted the tongues.

01:37:16.080 Pickled tongues was a big delicacy on the East Coast.

01:37:18.560 So they would shoot them for their tongue only, which is crazy.

01:37:21.800 So you're taking one of the biggest animals that lives in North America, and you're slaughtering it just for the smallest organ, the smallest thing, their tongue.

01:37:30.240 Yeah.

01:37:32.260 So people did that already.

01:37:34.180 And if there's no power, there's not enough food.

01:37:37.380 There's just not.

01:37:38.760 We don't have enough wild game for 330 million people for a year.

01:37:42.920 Forget about forever.

01:37:43.940 We don't, huh?

01:37:44.580 We don't.

01:37:45.620 We definitely don't.

01:37:47.140 We definitely 100% don't.

01:37:48.860 And the only reason why you can have these giant populations of people like Los Angeles, the only way you can have that is farmers.

01:37:55.000 Right.

01:37:55.600 You have to have farmers.

01:37:56.520 You have to have people that are fucking fully dedicated 24 hours a day to growing animals and food all the time to supply those people.

01:38:03.340 Amen.

01:38:03.620 So if you looked at the amount of farmers versus the amount of people that they feed, it's crazy.

01:38:08.460 Oh, that's a great point how exponential it probably is, huh?

01:38:11.040 Crazy.

01:38:11.860 So if all that's gone, then all those people have no food.

01:38:15.360 And then where are they getting it?

01:38:17.460 Are they going to be willing to, like, how are they going to learn how to herd cattle?

01:38:22.320 And the farmers are going to be sitting there licking their chops.

01:38:24.840 Well, they're going to be killed.

01:38:26.520 Most likely.

01:38:27.060 Oh, people are going to try to get them for their food.

01:38:28.840 Yeah.

01:38:29.340 But the farmers will be ready.

01:38:30.980 For a while.

01:38:32.500 You know, how long can you hold off millions of people with guns?

01:38:36.420 The United States has more guns than most of the world.

01:38:39.260 We have 40% of the firearms on Earth.

01:38:43.680 Fuck yeah.

01:38:45.360 They're making do it for a while, I guess.

01:38:47.480 See if that statistic is true.

01:38:48.960 I believe it is.

01:38:49.640 I think the American people have an exponential number in comparison to every other country.

01:38:56.760 We have so much more weapons than any other country.

01:38:59.500 And I think we have more guns than the entire Chinese army by a large amount.

01:39:03.420 No way.

01:39:04.140 Really?

01:39:04.500 Yeah.

01:39:04.640 By a large amount.

01:39:05.820 Just the American population has more guns.

01:39:08.640 It's so embedded in our culture.

01:39:09.960 Because I'll meet people sometimes that are like, you guys have all these guns.

01:39:12.660 It's like, there's no way to not have guns here.

01:39:15.800 Well, there's more guns than there are people here.

01:39:17.500 But how would you even do it if somebody were like, you should get rid of guns, right?

01:39:20.380 Because you hear people say that sometimes.

01:39:21.480 Well, you're not going to get rid of guns altogether.

01:39:24.000 You're not going to eliminate the technology, right?

01:39:26.580 So the technology, if it exists, someone's going to have the guns.

01:39:29.080 Who's going to have those guns?

01:39:30.240 Well, you're going to have the government's going to have the guns.

01:39:32.040 So you're basically giving the guns to people that are known liars, who've been manipulating

01:39:35.860 and controlling people from the beginning of time.

01:39:38.200 You can't have that.

01:39:39.060 And the reason why the United States has such a unique freedom is because the First Amendment

01:39:45.080 is protected by the Second Amendment.

01:39:47.480 Yeah.

01:39:47.900 Didn't Chris Rock have a bit about that?

01:39:49.640 I believe he did.

01:39:51.320 I'm not sure if he did.

01:39:52.240 I believe Chris Rock had a bit about that.

01:39:53.400 He probably did.

01:39:54.280 I think he did.

01:39:55.420 One last question before we go, Joe.

01:39:57.340 What's up, Jamie?

01:39:58.100 35% to 50% of the guns, somewhere in the range of 270 million out of the 645 million total.

01:40:07.100 Guns in America?

01:40:07.920 It's close to 42%.

01:40:09.040 It's a big estimate.

01:40:10.380 42% of the guns in the world right here, baby.

01:40:15.160 His dog's over there snoring.

01:40:16.460 You know why?

01:40:16.860 Because he could sleep well.

01:40:18.500 Yeah.

01:40:18.780 There's hard men out there with pistols protecting that little dog.

01:40:22.360 Dogs used to be used to protect us.

01:40:25.560 Carl, he's protecting nobody.

01:40:27.380 Carl bites me full blast every day.

01:40:30.200 Really?

01:40:31.100 Sure.

01:40:31.420 He loves that.

01:40:31.920 He loves to meet a man with his face.

01:40:33.640 He doesn't hurt you.

01:40:34.680 He doesn't?

01:40:35.280 No, he's adorable.

01:40:36.180 Yeah.

01:40:36.720 But you know what I'm saying?

01:40:37.260 Like, we need to protect Carl.

01:40:38.780 He can't protect us.

01:40:39.820 That's how soft people have gotten.

01:40:42.600 We gotta...

01:40:43.140 Listen to him or they're snoring.

01:40:46.060 You hear him?

01:40:46.940 Yeah.

01:40:47.480 He sounds like Lee Syed a little.

01:40:49.780 When Lee gets too many edibles, they're back.

01:40:52.440 The Church of What's Happening Now is back.

01:40:54.140 Just saw the first episode.

01:40:55.200 Isn't that amazing?

01:40:56.040 It's so cool.

01:40:56.580 I was telling Joey for a while.

01:40:57.880 I orchestrated getting the two of them together at the mothership.

01:41:00.220 I'm like, we gotta get you guys together.

01:41:02.260 I was putting it in his ear.

01:41:03.200 I'm like, Joey, you guys gotta bring the band back.

01:41:05.240 He goes, we're gonna.

01:41:05.820 We're gonna.

01:41:06.600 We're gonna.

01:41:06.960 Joey and Lee in California, when they had that show, it was in this weird little office

01:41:14.980 building.

01:41:15.560 So bizarre.

01:41:16.340 You'd park out there.

01:41:17.520 You'd be lucky to find a spot.

01:41:19.020 It had a really 80s vibe out there.

01:41:21.360 They had like one kind of neon kind of light that was kind of like, they'd have their door

01:41:26.020 for their office like open a little bit.

01:41:27.980 And it didn't seem like it was an office.

01:41:29.440 It seemed like it was a place where they shot like kind of quick porn.

01:41:32.540 Did you ever see the one episode where they had an office building at one point in time

01:41:36.060 with a bunch of other people that had office buildings?

01:41:37.940 And Joey was too loud and they were yelling at him to be quiet.

01:41:40.760 He's like, shut the fuck up.

01:41:44.800 No, it was amazing.

01:41:47.240 We used to share a wall with a nail salon for a while.

01:41:50.080 Really?

01:41:50.540 Yeah.

01:41:50.880 And they'd always be chattering in there and yelling about stuff.

01:41:53.620 It was fun.

01:41:53.960 Oh, that's okay.

01:41:54.700 Some of that was fun, dude.

01:41:55.640 I remember we used to share a wall with a fighter and the kid for a while.

01:41:58.660 And that was so much fun.

01:41:59.760 We'd bang on the wall at each other.

01:42:01.420 There was a bunch of podcasts that were being done in a couple areas like that in California.

01:42:06.060 Yeah.

01:42:06.800 Where they had little podcast studio places where several sets would be.

01:42:10.260 It was so much fun.

01:42:11.160 But those guys, they'd always ran into some money problem.

01:42:13.880 There was always like some producer that was taking too much money and they wanted to control

01:42:17.460 the show.

01:42:18.340 And I ran into so many dudes that had podcast deals that went south.

01:42:23.940 And it was, again, the same kind of thing.

01:42:25.520 Power and corruption.

01:42:26.860 Yeah.

01:42:27.080 There was so many guys who had podcast deals.

01:42:29.580 And then the people that they did this, that had this network wound up owning their podcast

01:42:34.360 and selling their podcast.

01:42:35.680 And they were like, what the fuck?

01:42:36.540 They just got robbed.

01:42:37.440 Yeah.

01:42:37.700 We got robbed.

01:42:38.400 I mean, we got stolen from.

01:42:39.520 You got literally robbed.

01:42:40.560 Yeah.

01:42:40.860 But we didn't, we still had ownership, you know?

01:42:43.700 Yeah.

01:42:44.060 But they stole your ad revenue, right?

01:42:45.900 Yeah.

01:42:46.640 For a year.

01:42:47.400 Yeah, man.

01:42:47.740 There was a lot of dirty business in the podcast world.

01:42:50.000 It was dark.

01:42:50.740 Well, it's the Wild West, right?

01:42:52.060 It was a completely new thing.

01:42:53.340 And all of a sudden, when the money spigot opened, it just opened.

01:42:56.620 Like, woo!

01:42:57.480 Like, I made no money for, like, five years.

01:43:00.420 I just did it for funsies.

01:43:02.060 And then all of a sudden, the spigot just opened.

01:43:04.160 Yeah, your spigot.

01:43:05.060 Yeah, really.

01:43:05.580 You have the most open spigot.

01:43:07.300 Right now, I have the most open spigot.

01:43:08.820 And congratulations.

01:43:10.140 Thank you.

01:43:10.660 You work harder than any podcaster by far, man.

01:43:13.460 And you're so great at it, man.

01:43:14.880 Well, you got to keep your foot on the gas, son.

01:43:17.360 That's the thing about podcasts or anything else.

01:43:20.040 When you've got, like, you're essentially, you're running a business, right?

01:43:24.460 Well, what is the business?

01:43:25.340 The business is interesting content.

01:43:27.600 All right.

01:43:28.300 How much are you actually interested in interesting content?

01:43:31.180 Because if you're not, it's not going to work.

01:43:32.520 So you got to be fully interested, which I am.

01:43:34.800 That's where I'm lucky.

01:43:35.900 I'm lucky that I'm interested in all these things.

01:43:37.980 Oh, yeah.

01:43:38.620 Pay attention to this shit.

01:43:39.640 Even if I wasn't talking about it, I'd be watching podcasts on this kind of shit.

01:43:42.940 Because I'm interested.

01:43:44.140 I'm interested in ancient civilizations.

01:43:46.380 I'm interested in cultures.

01:43:47.960 Oh, yeah.

01:43:48.300 Well, we learn a lot of stuff by listening to you learn it, man.

01:43:51.000 So it's cool, you know?

01:43:53.240 One question.

01:43:53.940 I know you, one time we were talking about if you ever retired, right?

01:43:57.540 Yeah.

01:43:58.120 And you said maybe you would start painting maybe if you ever retired.

01:44:01.100 Did I say that?

01:44:01.660 That's probably why.

01:44:02.340 It could have been.

01:44:02.920 Okay.

01:44:04.300 Even if you were.

01:44:05.260 I was probably taking some of that Delta 8.

01:44:07.360 What's it called?

01:44:07.880 The stuff they have out here?

01:44:09.980 Delta 8.

01:44:10.620 It's legal.

01:44:11.200 It's a legal loophole.

01:44:12.200 Legal weed.

01:44:13.420 Yeah, I'm all fucked up on Delta 8, son.

01:44:15.700 You had a Delta 8?

01:44:16.620 You had a bit.

01:44:16.900 You had a.

01:44:17.340 Oh, there's a bunch of Delta 8 out here.

01:44:18.660 But are you still using it?

01:44:19.440 It's legit?

01:44:20.300 Oh, yeah.

01:44:20.600 Sure it is.

01:44:21.020 It is.

01:44:21.780 It's at a gas station.

01:44:24.780 Like boner pills.

01:44:26.020 They work.

01:44:27.320 Talk to Red Band.

01:44:28.300 One of those makes your nose bleed really bad.

01:44:30.480 Red Band stuff.

01:44:31.540 Those aggressive rhinos, whatever those ones are.

01:44:35.280 Oh, yeah.

01:44:35.680 They make your fucking nose bleed.

01:44:37.800 Red Band's a connoisseur.

01:44:38.980 He'll tell you what the good ones are.

01:44:40.080 Oh, I went down the road.

01:44:41.660 I used to get them from India.

01:44:42.440 I used to get all that shit.

01:44:43.320 India.

01:44:43.640 But what would you paint, dude?

01:44:46.500 That's what I was thinking.

01:44:47.180 I was just thinking about you painting.

01:44:48.240 I was lying.

01:44:48.720 You were?

01:44:49.160 Yeah, I had to be.

01:44:50.020 I'm not interested in painting.

01:44:51.440 Come on, man.

01:44:52.180 No, man.

01:44:52.680 If I was going to retire, you know what I would do?

01:44:53.600 I want a damn lithograph, dude.

01:44:55.320 You know, if I was going to retire, I would just bow hunt and play pool.

01:44:59.120 That's what I would do.

01:44:59.860 If I said I don't want to do anything for money from now on, I would bow hunt and play pool.

01:45:04.900 I'd try to play pool for money, but I would never win any money.

01:45:07.360 I can never beat the best guys.

01:45:08.960 If you think you could have devoted so much as much time to you, because that's one thing

01:45:12.040 you start to learn about life.

01:45:12.840 It's like, oh, I only have so much time, right?

01:45:14.360 If you could have devoted as much time, you think, do you think you could have been really

01:45:17.200 good at it?

01:45:17.680 Because I know you really loved it.

01:45:18.720 Pool was a, if pool was a legitimate sport when I was in my 20s, 100%, I would have become

01:45:24.760 a professional pool player.

01:45:26.100 100% I wanted to play pool all the time because it was a population of misfits.

01:45:32.460 That's what it was.

01:45:33.360 It wasn't just the game itself.

01:45:35.560 It was the misfits.

01:45:37.260 It was, I always felt like a misfit.

01:45:39.020 When I was a kid, I felt like a misfit, you know, moved around a lot.

01:45:42.440 My parents broke up when I was young and it's like, I never felt like I fit in anywhere until

01:45:48.160 I started hanging around the pool.

01:45:49.740 I was like, oh, these guys are just like me.

01:45:52.020 They're all people that they're just too ADD to ever keep a real job.

01:45:55.480 And they're just nutty people.

01:45:57.560 And they all had like different things that they did for money.

01:45:59.840 But what they were really obsessed with was that game was playing pool and going to pool

01:46:03.920 halls because you'd go to pool halls and it was a bunch of guys like you, just a bunch

01:46:08.220 of weirdos who are just wanting to laugh and have fun and play this game.

01:46:12.880 Yeah.

01:46:13.840 Yeah.

01:46:14.200 So maybe, yeah, that, maybe that would be nice and painting.

01:46:18.420 The problem with painting is, you know, I'd look, I love art.

01:46:23.520 If I was called to paint, like if it felt like something, maybe I would get into doing

01:46:27.320 it, but that's not what I'm interested in right now.

01:46:31.420 You know?

01:46:32.180 Yeah.

01:46:32.900 Maybe I would be, but I don't think so.

01:46:35.880 You know, I think, I think if I retire, I'm just going to pursue interests.

01:46:40.540 I'm just going to like learn languages and shit and just do something different.

01:46:44.120 Yeah.

01:46:44.300 I don't think when I stopped doing this, I'm ever going to do anything else publicly.

01:46:49.560 I probably won't, I won't want to anymore.

01:46:51.400 I get to a point where I think a lot of people get to where they're just like, eh, I'm

01:46:55.440 on off this ride.

01:46:56.860 Do you ever wear a disguise when you go places?

01:46:58.920 Like if you travel?

01:46:59.320 Every day.

01:46:59.520 I'm wearing a disguise right now.

01:47:02.780 Like tall Biden.

01:47:05.060 Remember when they had the fake Biden?

01:47:06.880 Was that real?

01:47:07.640 Was that a tall guy?

01:47:08.540 It was a tall guy.

01:47:09.400 Get fucked.

01:47:09.920 A tall guy pretending to be Biden.

01:47:11.640 100% wasn't Biden.

01:47:13.460 The CIA has had like super sophisticated outfits.

01:47:17.640 Look, have you seen Adam Ray when he, when he dresses up like Dr. Phil?

01:47:21.020 Yeah.

01:47:21.180 Sometimes you forget.

01:47:21.980 Pretty fucking good.

01:47:22.820 He did.

01:47:23.360 We did the HEB.

01:47:24.240 I saw that Biden he did.

01:47:25.180 He did Biden.

01:47:25.620 So good.

01:47:25.820 Bro, I mean, and this is like easy two hours of makeup.

01:47:29.900 They're not even trying to make him look real.

01:47:31.620 And he looks real.

01:47:32.640 He looks real.

01:47:33.160 He's crazy.

01:47:33.860 This is him like 20 minutes in his car to put, yeah.

01:47:36.160 All you need is a dude with similar face structure to Biden and you can make him Biden.

01:47:40.560 100%.

01:47:40.920 And I think they definitely did that.

01:47:42.780 Fuck.

01:47:43.380 I think there was a point in time where he was later.

01:47:45.200 Who's doing that?

01:47:45.700 America?

01:47:46.580 We're protecting you, Theo Vaughn.

01:47:48.840 We can't have China think that our president is down and that Kamala Harris is running the military.

01:47:55.000 Come on, son.

01:47:56.020 We know what we're doing.

01:47:57.460 Pull up the photo.

01:47:58.480 What about the law?

01:47:59.200 Pull up the video of the tall Biden.

01:48:01.200 Because there ain't no way it's the same dude.

01:48:03.380 Bring his ass up.

01:48:04.200 Because he wasn't even a little taller.

01:48:05.900 Bring that honky up.

01:48:07.180 You know what I'm saying?

01:48:07.940 It wasn't like.

01:48:09.200 That's a crazy thing to say.

01:48:09.720 Let's not say that.

01:48:10.760 It is the president.

01:48:11.920 It wasn't like, you know, it was like Bobby Lee next to Ari.

01:48:15.960 Yeah.

01:48:17.100 I was like, something is different.

01:48:19.900 Not the same guy.

01:48:21.480 Yeah.

01:48:21.880 He's so much taller.

01:48:23.540 He was like six inches taller.

01:48:25.980 Like, not a little taller.

01:48:27.300 And they're like, we got nobody?

01:48:28.460 No, we got nobody.

01:48:29.240 Look at the size of this motherfucker.

01:48:31.320 Oh, get fucked, dude.

01:48:32.580 That's not real, dude.

01:48:33.640 That's real.

01:48:34.580 Look at the size.

01:48:35.560 Who the fuck is that?

01:48:36.180 Look at the size of his legs.

01:48:38.360 Is that Will Ferrell?

01:48:39.860 Bro, that guy's a basketball player.

01:48:41.960 They got some.

01:48:42.720 Remember it's all Biden.

01:48:43.320 Look at the difference in size.

01:48:44.860 So that's the real Biden.

01:48:46.300 And Trump really met him?

01:48:47.520 And that's the real Obama.

01:48:49.040 Right?

01:48:49.520 Real Obama.

01:48:50.160 Real Biden.

01:48:50.680 Now, give me fake Biden again.

01:48:54.520 No, no, no.

01:48:54.920 Fake one.

01:48:56.060 The giant.

01:48:57.000 That one.

01:48:57.540 No, no, no, no, no.

01:48:58.280 The giant one when he's walking around.

01:48:59.740 This one.

01:49:00.880 This video.

01:49:01.360 Who is that?

01:49:02.420 Bro, look at how much taller he is than Jill.

01:49:05.360 He's never that much taller than Jill.

01:49:07.080 Jill's wearing heels, son.

01:49:08.480 Look at her heels.

01:49:09.420 See her heels elevated in the back?

01:49:11.660 She's wearing heels.

01:49:12.720 He's towering over her.

01:49:14.140 That's a giant Biden.

01:49:16.000 That's Sasquatch.

01:49:18.280 Wow.

01:49:18.880 That's really, really interesting.

01:49:21.360 Do people have done, like, a comparison to his height compared to, like, what he normally

01:49:25.560 is?

01:49:25.900 Mm-hmm.

01:49:26.860 Tall Biden.

01:49:27.540 It was a real thing.

01:49:28.560 Oh.

01:49:29.600 Do you think, what happens to him after he goes away in office?

01:49:32.660 What happens to him?

01:49:33.420 Jimmy Carter.

01:49:34.500 He votes like this.

01:49:36.080 You think?

01:49:37.520 He can't wait to vote for Pete Buttigieg.

01:49:41.480 They roll him out there.

01:49:42.660 Who controls Joe Biden if he's not controlling himself?

01:49:44.960 Well, whoever is letting him fucking pardon eight million people.

01:49:49.880 Some of the guys said they don't want the pardon.

01:49:51.360 Do you see that?

01:49:52.060 Bro, he's pardoned more people than anybody ever by a long shot.

01:49:55.300 He's got all-timers.

01:49:55.840 Tiger King, too, somebody said.

01:49:57.420 Oh, he better pardon Tiger King.

01:49:58.600 I think he did.

01:49:59.240 Didn't he just-

01:49:59.680 Did he?

01:50:00.060 Somebody said he just pardoned him.

01:50:01.920 Did he?

01:50:02.660 That can't be real.

01:50:03.680 I saw that it's a little overinflated because of all the marijuana charges that got added

01:50:08.640 in.

01:50:09.340 For Tiger King?

01:50:10.240 They threw all those people in.

01:50:11.180 No.

01:50:11.440 And Joe Biden's pardoned.

01:50:13.160 Oh.

01:50:13.360 I want to see that mad slurper get back out.

01:50:15.660 Yeah, but that's a good thing that he's doing that, but he's still pardoning more people

01:50:19.180 than anybody ever.

01:50:20.000 Bro, when Tiger King gets back out of here, fucking wait, America.

01:50:22.560 He'll be a guest on this podcast.

01:50:24.140 Oh, yeah.

01:50:24.620 With a knee brace, pistol on his hip.

01:50:26.800 With that whip?

01:50:27.620 Yeah.

01:50:28.300 He'll try to fuck Jamie for sure.

01:50:29.640 Oh, he's going to fucking slurp on somebody, dude.

01:50:31.940 He again lobbies for presidential pardon.

01:50:33.940 Jamie, what are the odds this guy tries to fuck you if we bring him in the studio?

01:50:36.700 No way.

01:50:37.280 It's 100%.

01:50:37.940 Not that he's going to fuck you.

01:50:39.540 No way, would he?

01:50:40.660 Yeah.

01:50:40.860 I'd be the first one on his list.

01:50:42.220 I'd have all the people in the building.

01:50:43.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:44.140 You're the guy who moves on.

01:50:44.860 There's a couple other people.

01:50:45.580 No, no, no, no, no.

01:50:46.240 He moves on you.

01:50:46.260 We'll hold him back by the hips.

01:50:47.580 We'll have ground.

01:50:48.060 He moves on you.

01:50:48.620 We'll have side control on him, but.

01:50:49.820 He moves on you.

01:50:50.500 You're a nice guy.

01:50:51.560 I shaved my mustache.

01:50:52.600 Yeah.

01:50:53.080 Maybe that's what it is.

01:50:53.940 The mustache.

01:50:55.460 He's trying.

01:50:56.760 He's trying, but they're not going to let him out.

01:50:59.160 Maybe they should.

01:51:00.040 I don't know.

01:51:00.600 I don't know.

01:51:01.480 I wonder if he got out of this, wonder what kind of job he would get into.

01:51:04.760 They're not going to let him work offshore or whatever.

01:51:06.440 Stuffed animals.

01:51:07.860 You see?

01:51:08.120 All his own stuffed animals.

01:51:09.300 Yeah.

01:51:09.740 Open his own Build-A-Bear.

01:51:10.760 Build-A-Tiger.

01:51:12.180 You know?

01:51:13.660 He's just in there helping you stuff it.

01:51:15.840 Yeah, you stuff it.

01:51:17.000 And then the little recording thing, when you have the little thing in there where you

01:51:20.800 press the button and it gives a little recording.

01:51:23.140 One of my kids, I used to have one for one of my daughters where she'd squeeze it and

01:51:26.480 said, Daddy loves you.

01:51:28.200 Oh, that's sweet.

01:51:28.560 It was adorable.

01:51:29.340 That's what he's going to do.

01:51:30.220 He's going to do that for people.

01:51:31.160 Same thing.

01:51:31.620 I want to suck your cock.

01:51:34.160 Daddy loves you.

01:51:35.520 I want to suck your cock.

01:51:38.000 Hey.

01:51:40.840 Hey.

01:51:41.760 What you doing with all that cock?

01:51:43.640 Huh?

01:51:44.220 I think this has got to be his account.

01:51:45.500 Take me to the river.

01:51:46.860 I'm looking around just Twitter and he tweeted that yesterday.

01:51:50.120 No, he didn't.

01:51:50.860 Look at that.

01:51:51.440 Please repost, comment, and tag anyone if you can show support right now more than ever.

01:51:56.320 Why am I in the back?

01:51:57.580 I don't know.

01:51:58.160 Is that really true?

01:51:59.060 That's a real photo.

01:51:59.800 You don't forget it happening?

01:52:01.200 You don't remember that podcast?

01:52:03.620 That was right after you did Bernie Sanders.

01:52:05.200 That guy came in.

01:52:08.080 What is it like for you?

01:52:09.440 Can I ask you this?

01:52:10.480 You're interviewing legitimate people now.

01:52:13.180 You interviewed Trump.

01:52:14.680 You interviewed Bernie Sanders.

01:52:17.360 You interviewed who else?

01:52:19.740 J.D.

01:52:20.060 Walsh.

01:52:20.660 Who else you interviewed?

01:52:21.460 You've interviewed a lot of very interesting people.

01:52:24.800 Are you enjoying that?

01:52:26.420 Yeah, I think I am, man.

01:52:27.680 I think it's been I've been trying to learn more, you know, so that's been one of my goals.

01:52:31.280 You're doing a great job because you mean you get silly.

01:52:33.700 You're still yourself.

01:52:34.660 You know, you're still silly, but you're having like real conversations with these people.

01:52:37.880 Thanks.

01:52:38.380 You know, Bob Kennedy.

01:52:40.140 Yeah, for sure.

01:52:41.100 I mean, I knew Bobby, which was lucky.

01:52:42.920 And we were going through Vermont and Bernie said he would come on the podcast.

01:52:46.060 So that was super fortunate.

01:52:47.740 And then Dana helped.

01:52:50.680 You know, I wanted to talk to Trump because his brother had died of alcoholism.

01:52:53.380 And it was like a world that I had like spent a lot of my life like, you know, in and dealing with.

01:52:58.020 And so I wanted to like just see what he like if he was normal about something like that, I guess.

01:53:03.800 So, yeah, but I think it's been interesting.

01:53:06.060 I think it felt like a lot of responsive.

01:53:08.460 I got I started to have some ego issues.

01:53:10.620 I think I was just trying to be like, you know, just know what you're doing, man.

01:53:15.040 Like you don't have some big responsibility.

01:53:18.080 I think I had this ego trap where it maybe felt I just had to kind of manage some stuff for a little bit.

01:53:23.120 But I've been feeling better now.

01:53:24.220 I think like what what was the trap?

01:53:26.820 I think you just start to think, oh, well, I'm important.

01:53:29.580 Right.

01:53:29.940 And it's OK if I am like it's OK if I have importance to myself and there's things that I want to like examine and learn for myself and that sort of thing.

01:53:39.140 But your role as an important person.

01:53:41.040 Right.

01:53:41.480 You started thinking about that because you're getting a lot of views.

01:53:43.600 Right.

01:53:43.940 I think it started to just scare me.

01:53:45.360 So I just I got nervous.

01:53:46.780 And then I had people that would ask me about stuff that I felt like I didn't know about or people would think that I knew more than I did.

01:53:53.240 Or like I had something to do with like the election, like things like that made me super kind of nervous.

01:53:58.160 Got it.

01:53:58.580 And so I think I just was kind of trying to manage that for a bit.

01:54:01.280 And but I've been feeling like better about it.

01:54:04.280 And I know some places are things to be funny.

01:54:06.380 Some places are things that mean something to me.

01:54:09.160 Just like learning about health care and people getting screwed.

01:54:11.500 Like there are some like smaller causes.

01:54:13.580 I can't learn about everything.

01:54:14.760 But there are some things that I do care about that I can like like seek more information about, you know, and then to just try to get more interested in things like just be, you know, learn about when I open myself up to learn about more things, you know.

01:54:27.940 So that's the key is like knowing when to just listen, when to when to try to be funny, just fuck around, learn how to be yourself.

01:54:36.220 Yeah.

01:54:36.360 The more you do them, the more relaxed you get when you do them, you know.

01:54:39.580 Yeah, that happens, too.

01:54:40.720 I mean, this is probably the most relaxed I felt like being around you today, you know, around me.

01:54:45.080 Yeah, I think I just like, yeah, sometimes you get nervous.

01:54:49.560 Do you get nervous just because so many people are listening?

01:54:51.600 Is that what it is?

01:54:52.380 The numbers?

01:54:53.480 Yeah, I think at first.

01:54:54.640 And then I think, yeah, I mean, I look up to you, I think.

01:54:57.800 And so, you know, and you're, you know, you're the champ.

01:55:01.460 You're the best.

01:55:01.980 And so it's like, I don't know if it's a nerd, I don't know what it is, but there's sometimes I feel some thing, you know.

01:55:08.580 Well, thank you, but you don't need to.

01:55:10.040 You don't need to feel that.

01:55:11.060 Like you and I have been friends for a long fucking time.

01:55:13.100 You could be yourself.

01:55:13.860 Yeah, you remind me of that.

01:55:14.800 And I appreciate it, you know, because it does it does help.

01:55:16.980 I think it's just like an old thing of like it's like an old energy thing that doesn't make any sense anymore.

01:55:22.340 You know, but sometimes like that template is still there a little bit.

01:55:25.780 Right.

01:55:26.380 Right.

01:55:26.540 Well, that's a Hollywood template, right?

01:55:28.080 Like the people that are more established and bigger, it's like, oh, there's Johnny Carson.

01:55:32.500 Yeah.

01:55:32.640 You know, there's that, you know, gets.

01:55:34.300 Oh, yeah.

01:55:35.580 Yeah.

01:55:35.880 Yeah.

01:55:36.040 And you always, anytime I think that way, you always bring it back down to a super normal place.

01:55:40.040 So thank you.

01:55:41.580 But it should be super normal.

01:55:43.220 That's really the appeal of all this that we do is that it is super normal.

01:55:46.640 Is that a guy like you can have no pretense and just ask Bernie Sanders questions.

01:55:50.700 Like, why the fuck are they getting away with this?

01:55:53.020 Like, why?

01:55:53.640 Why is it structured this way?

01:55:54.980 Why are these corporations stealing all this money and fucking everybody out?

01:55:58.540 All these, you know, why is this happening?

01:56:01.000 And those are, it's, if you can have those real conversations, this is the only place where they exist.

01:56:06.020 Then you're never going to get these kind of conversations on a late night talk show.

01:56:09.740 You don't, you're not going to get them.

01:56:10.940 They don't have these kind of, there's, it's not possible.

01:56:13.960 You can't go into depth about things.

01:56:15.920 There's no way you can go for hours and hours just talking to people.

01:56:18.720 You can't do it.

01:56:19.700 Yeah.

01:56:20.880 Yeah, man.

01:56:21.420 And I think it's interesting.

01:56:22.260 It's like, you know, there's still things that I want to do in my life personally.

01:56:24.980 And there's like talking with people has helped me a ton, you know, like even just confidence

01:56:29.680 from being like, you know, from getting to talk with different UFC fighters and things

01:56:33.660 over the years.

01:56:34.080 Like there's a lot of like people that I've gotten to speak to or people I've heard on

01:56:37.020 your shows and other shows that inspire me like in little moments of my life, you know,

01:56:40.920 like it's important, you know?

01:56:42.300 Um, yeah, so I, I don't know.

01:56:45.300 I definitely, I mean, I feel like, you know, I just want to, you know, try my best, keep

01:56:50.920 learning.

01:56:51.840 I don't know.

01:56:52.380 And just have a good time too.

01:56:54.120 Well, you, you seem like you're having a good time and you're doing a great job.

01:56:57.360 You really are.

01:56:57.980 And you're getting really good at it.

01:56:59.140 Like the more you do it, the better you get at it.

01:57:00.980 You can really tell there's a lot of good people podcasting now.

01:57:03.860 It's an awesome time.

01:57:05.020 You and Tim Dillon did that episode, the last one you guys did.

01:57:08.000 He's the best.

01:57:09.080 He's, he's the absolute best at the rant.

01:57:12.540 There's nobody else.

01:57:13.920 No champ like him.

01:57:15.020 He's the number one.

01:57:16.000 He's the Michael Jordan of the rant.

01:57:17.480 Yeah.

01:57:17.980 Even seeing Shane, seeing Shane for literally my mom texted me last night.

01:57:22.140 She's like, I, uh, that Shane Gillis, he just makes some of the best faces right away.

01:57:27.320 And so even earlier we go back to, you're like, I got Shane Gillis back here.

01:57:31.420 I thought you were, it was like a new beverage or something you had made.

01:57:34.240 And, uh, so I go back and there's a sauna back there by your gym.

01:57:38.340 You never saw the gym before.

01:57:39.240 I can't believe you never saw the gym.

01:57:41.300 The gym's pretty dope, right?

01:57:42.480 Yeah.

01:57:42.660 The gym's great, but I didn't think you had a Shane Gillis on tap.

01:57:45.880 So we fucking go in there and there's a meat closet where you're drying aged beef.

01:57:51.360 I actually do have one of those.

01:57:52.760 Yeah, of course.

01:57:54.680 And the fucking, there's a fucking full body strap of Shane Gillis hanging in that bitch.

01:57:59.200 And he just puts his head up near the glass and that moment alone, like, oh, that was

01:58:04.320 the best.

01:58:04.720 Doesn't it make you want to move here?

01:58:05.980 Yeah, it definitely helps, man.

01:58:07.600 I'm going to start, I'm starting to look because I'm not having, I got to get a family soon

01:58:11.300 too, dude.

01:58:11.980 You get yourself a nice Texas girl.

01:58:13.260 I know.

01:58:13.680 I am.

01:58:14.180 I'm, I'm, I am.

01:58:15.200 I'm motivated.

01:58:15.980 Ladies, let's put that energy out there.

01:58:17.980 Get Theo a nice Texas girl.

01:58:19.780 I know they're out here.

01:58:20.940 There's a ton of them out here.

01:58:22.300 This is the greatest place in the world to be a single guy like you.

01:58:24.780 Is it?

01:58:25.300 Yeah.

01:58:25.620 It seems very diverse here too.

01:58:27.840 Like people are friendly.

01:58:29.660 They're genuinely friendly and they're not friendly because they want something from

01:58:32.680 you like LA.

01:58:33.560 They're not friendly because you're famous and friendly because they want to get famous

01:58:36.880 too.

01:58:37.240 They're just friendly.

01:58:38.160 Oh yeah.

01:58:38.480 They're fun.

01:58:39.040 Nice people living their life.

01:58:40.700 They're fun, boy.

01:58:41.740 Theo Vaughn, I love you to death.

01:58:43.020 I love you too, man.

01:58:44.100 Thanks for everything.

01:58:44.940 This is the end of part two.

01:58:46.460 There it is.

01:58:46.980 That's both of them.

01:58:47.560 Jamie, thanks so much too.

01:58:48.600 Nice to meet your dog for the second time.

01:58:50.880 Powerful Carl.

01:58:52.540 Look at him over there.

01:58:53.340 Powerful guy.

01:58:53.660 Is he awake yet?

01:58:54.620 He's awake.

01:58:55.020 He's waiting.

01:58:56.200 He wakes up when?

01:58:57.080 He wakes up right around now.

01:58:58.200 He's like, probably about time for me to get up and start terrorizing people again.

01:59:03.820 Like China.

01:59:04.740 All right.

01:59:05.240 Bye, everybody.

01:59:05.740 Peace.

01:59:06.280 Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:59:12.000 I must be cornerstone.

01:59:17.080 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind.

01:59:21.940 I found I can feel it in my bones.

01:59:26.100 But it's gonna take...

01:59:29.100 очень, there's no going there.

01:59:29.820 It's gonna be better.

01:59:30.320 There it is.

01:59:31.760 It's covering the Herod.

01:59:33.100 I'm not always Hungry.

01:59:38.480 There it is...

01:59:38.600 I can have mine.

01:59:39.360 You can never take me for it.

01:59:40.280 Have a problem goingẳ slammed onEuphoria.

01:59:41.520 I can always wait for the next day.

01:59:42.440 But I can always try to do something like this.

01:59:44.040 Oh, my God!

01:59:44.840 Where do I stay with the сол cargo going proyect?

01:59:46.520 It's going!

01:59:47.300 It's gonna take me away from you to my soul.

01:59:47.860 I came out before me to Bethany.

01:59:49.360 It's going to be aPL 45-408.

01:59:49.740 I'm being a place where the angels will go.

01:59:50.640 It's going to be a high.

01:59:51.220 There it is when I come from you to climb Morocco.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - January 11, 2025

E554 Joe Rogan

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