This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E558 Katt Williams

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00:00:30.220 Today's guest is, well, he's the GOAT.

00:00:33.960 He is an iconic comedian.

00:00:36.460 He has a new tour going on right now called the Heaven on Earth Tour.

00:00:41.800 He is labeled by many as an oracle, as the Black Crystal Ball, I've heard him called.

00:00:48.920 I'm thankful that he came down from the clouds today to spend time with us.

00:00:52.520 Today's guest is Mr. Ket Williams.

00:00:55.160 And I will find a song I've been singing.

00:01:00.780 I'm on the stage.

00:01:08.620 What's up, man?

00:01:09.920 What's up, man?

00:01:10.760 It's time.

00:01:14.800 It's good to see good old Theo Vine.

00:01:17.320 It's an honor, man.

00:01:18.180 The world loves you, you know?

00:01:20.040 Well, that's nice of you to say.

00:01:22.640 I feel like, I can't believe I'm around you, I think.

00:01:27.980 You know, I feel like you seem like a mythical figure.

00:01:34.140 Right.

00:01:35.300 Well.

00:01:36.200 You know, like a sasquatch or like a unicorn or something like that.

00:01:45.920 Yeah, you'll still feel that way by the end.

00:01:50.800 Like, I won't ruin that.

00:01:52.260 Yeah, okay.

00:01:52.780 Yeah, that's the good thing about people like you and I.

00:01:57.580 Like, if somebody thinks that they like us and they think they've made a connection with this person on the screen,

00:02:06.640 when they're around us, it's legitimate because it was legitimate.

00:02:14.560 You know what I mean?

00:02:15.580 Yeah.

00:02:16.000 Like, if Theo Vine wasn't successful, he doesn't have a different story.

00:02:23.280 Right.

00:02:24.280 Right, right.

00:02:24.820 You know what I mean?

00:02:25.700 It's the same story.

00:02:26.960 Yeah.

00:02:27.060 He lived that story.

00:02:28.880 And that's why people gravitate to you because there's nobody like you.

00:02:37.240 Well, thanks, man.

00:02:38.220 I feel the same about you.

00:02:40.320 I feel like everybody does.

00:02:42.840 Yeah.

00:02:43.000 And you have a statue of me at your house.

00:02:45.520 So, you know.

00:02:46.380 So, yeah.

00:02:47.100 Thank you, man.

00:02:47.980 Yeah, thank you for letting them even do that statue.

00:02:50.100 What was that whole deal like with them, with Michaels?

00:02:52.680 That's where I got mine at was at Michaels.

00:02:54.840 Right.

00:02:56.580 Yeah.

00:02:56.980 Did you do a, it wasn't a collab or what was it?

00:03:00.040 Nope.

00:03:02.200 Nope.

00:03:02.560 They just robbed my image and likeness because they could.

00:03:08.200 I didn't mess it up, man.

00:03:11.140 Because they were doing it for religious purposes.

00:03:13.800 Oh, yeah.

00:03:14.460 I allowed it to be.

00:03:18.200 Well, thank you.

00:03:19.100 We wish you a black Christmas.

00:03:20.480 Hey, man.

00:03:21.060 Look, I'd be honored to have one.

00:03:23.380 I'd be honored to have one.

00:03:25.360 Yeah, man.

00:03:26.160 Because, yeah, when I met that guy there, he said, we got two left, man.

00:03:29.280 You know, and there was 200 and one of them was marked down because they had a chip in it.

00:03:34.620 But it's still, man, it's an honor.

00:03:36.920 I keep it up in my house year round.

00:03:38.740 And people walk in and they're like, no way, that's Cat William right there.

00:03:42.980 It is.

00:03:43.860 And it's beautiful, man.

00:03:45.240 Thank you.

00:03:45.960 Yeah.

00:03:46.220 You have a new tour, man.

00:03:50.120 And, you know, I know people talk about touring and comedy a lot.

00:03:53.380 And I want to know what kind of keeps you still doing comedy.

00:03:57.500 Like, did you, like, because I think when we start out, maybe it's to be funny.

00:04:01.080 And then some people get to this place where they want to have a message.

00:04:05.060 Do you notice that kind of tone shift in your, like, desire to do it over time?

00:04:12.120 I don't think so.

00:04:13.480 Like, I always try to have a message just because I enjoy the fact that while laughing and joking,

00:04:27.040 you might learn something you didn't know and have gotten it from a comedian.

00:04:33.860 And I kind of dig that.

00:04:36.700 But everything else is just continuing this conversation with my fan base.

00:04:42.780 Like, these are my friends that I haven't seen since the last time I was here.

00:04:47.940 And here's our discussion furthering our relationship.

00:04:52.780 So it hasn't felt much like work.

00:04:58.660 And it's the heaven on earth tour.

00:05:00.580 Do you believe in heaven?

00:05:04.120 Absolutely.

00:05:06.440 And earth.

00:05:08.080 Yeah.

00:05:08.340 Okay.

00:05:08.780 All right.

00:05:09.560 Fair.

00:05:10.240 Touche, man.

00:05:11.120 Dude, I remember when I first, because, like, when I was growing up, we just had, you know, you learned about heaven and stuff.

00:05:18.940 But all the pamphlets or whatever I'd seen at church or anything, it always had, it was mostly white folks on it, right?

00:05:24.800 Right.

00:05:25.060 And then I went to a black church one time.

00:05:29.240 Yeah.

00:05:29.620 It was, I think it was called Greater Starlight Baptist Church.

00:05:32.820 That was in our town.

00:05:34.940 And shout out to Greater Starlight Baptist Church.

00:05:38.200 Oh, yeah.

00:05:38.640 It was nice in there.

00:05:39.780 This was in Covington, Louisiana.

00:05:41.200 But, yeah, they had.

00:05:44.340 About 13 miles from Slidell.

00:05:47.080 Yeah, there you go.

00:05:51.260 Wow.

00:05:52.840 Map Williams in the building, baby.

00:05:56.020 Right, right.

00:05:56.900 But, and that's when I realized.

00:05:58.440 Don't make me go Gert.

00:06:00.780 Everybody's.

00:06:01.260 That's when I realized, oh, everybody's going to be in heaven.

00:06:08.500 That was the first time that I realized heaven was going to be very diverse.

00:06:11.720 I'd never thought about it.

00:06:12.720 Right.

00:06:13.300 And it was, it blew my mind.

00:06:15.200 I was like, oh, wow, they're going to have black folks in heaven, Asian folks.

00:06:20.220 All types of folks are going to be there, you know?

00:06:22.960 It's truly the only place that white people are a minority.

00:06:27.320 Yeah.

00:06:27.760 Is in heaven.

00:06:29.980 Just because thousands of years went with nobody getting to go.

00:06:34.300 Yeah.

00:06:34.840 Just because of fuck shit that they might not have even been involved in.

00:06:41.680 You know what I mean?

00:06:42.440 Yeah.

00:06:43.580 Yeah, I guess I'm kind of, I don't know if I'm starting to look forward to it.

00:06:46.500 I am excited about it.

00:06:47.880 Yeah.

00:06:48.560 But, yeah, I guess I get caught up in, like, a lot of worldly stuff, you know?

00:06:51.940 Like, there's still things I want to do here, that type of thing, you know?

00:06:55.400 Really?

00:06:56.000 Yeah.

00:06:57.000 You still got stuff you haven't done?

00:06:59.220 Yeah.

00:06:59.660 Oh, man, I got some things.

00:07:01.120 Yeah, some different things.

00:07:02.100 I would like to write a book, I think.

00:07:04.000 Don't say what they are.

00:07:05.360 Okay.

00:07:05.540 I'm saying just the fact that you got things that you're excited about doing, that's the joy of life.

00:07:14.260 That's when you're living is so many.

00:07:18.100 That's why it's so difficult for these super wealthy people to be fucking happy.

00:07:24.080 Like, they can do everything else, but they can't fucking be happy because they've lived all their dreams.

00:07:30.900 They got everything they were trying to get.

00:07:33.300 They wake up and they can't score a touchdown no matter what.

00:07:38.940 Yeah, it's a terrible life.

00:07:41.200 But guys like you and I that still got stuff to try and taste and, you know, things to feel and people to be around.

00:07:52.780 Like, it gives life a wonderful meaning.

00:07:57.060 Yeah.

00:07:57.280 Yeah, I think that is something that, like, if I stay kind of motivated and I have a plan a little bit that keeps me a lot more, like, okay, I want to do this.

00:08:06.560 I still want to try that.

00:08:08.920 Yeah.

00:08:10.140 And I start to think, man, I'm running out of time, too.

00:08:12.780 You know, if you really like to taste different things and smell different flowers and, you know, and see what's on in different gardens and stuff, then you start to run out of time.

00:08:23.020 No.

00:08:23.840 You don't think?

00:08:24.360 No, because you had to be in the position that you're in now for you to be able to make some of these things happen.

00:08:36.180 Couldn't have done them at 34, 24, 14 because circumstantially you weren't ready.

00:08:43.460 You weren't ready financially.

00:08:45.140 You didn't have the time.

00:08:46.400 You didn't know that's what you wanted to do.

00:08:48.820 Now at this place is when you can make those things happen.

00:08:53.120 Like, you can do everything on that list of yours in 2025 with no fucking sweat.

00:08:59.240 And your biggest problem in 26 is I got to have a new list.

00:09:05.340 Yeah.

00:09:06.120 Time is one of the main things that's made up.

00:09:11.860 Yeah, you think?

00:09:13.040 I know.

00:09:13.540 So it's just used as like a mechanism to what, limit our thinking?

00:09:19.040 Well, don't say limit.

00:09:20.260 You said that you like this thing because it gives control and it puts things in its place.

00:09:28.960 And that's what time does for us so that we're able to keep track, you know.

00:09:33.880 But the less you deal with time, you realize you have the right amount of time to do everything you got to do every day, 24 hours.

00:09:47.060 And you could make it an adventure every fucking day, like, hey, I could die tomorrow.

00:09:54.920 What would that mean I would need to be doing today?

00:09:58.740 How do I, you see what I'm saying?

00:10:00.120 Right.

00:10:00.340 Like, not looking at it like, oh, I'm running out of time.

00:10:03.720 No, no, no, no.

00:10:05.000 Dead people ran out of time.

00:10:06.860 Yeah.

00:10:07.000 Yeah.

00:10:07.320 Everybody else alive.

00:10:12.340 You got 30 swim trunks.

00:10:14.080 Do that for me.

00:10:17.980 How are you going to say you got 30 swim trunks, but you ain't never been in the ocean, Joe Rogan?

00:10:26.000 Bro, thank you for having a good sense of humor, man.

00:10:29.480 That's what I am.

00:10:31.000 I am a good sense of humor.

00:10:33.960 Yeah, sometimes we forget about that along the way, man.

00:10:36.520 You are.

00:10:36.960 Right.

00:10:37.320 How long you want to live for it, then, you think, Kat?

00:10:39.380 You got to check it.

00:10:40.200 You got to, when you ever think about it?

00:10:45.740 I was promised that I won't have to deal with that.

00:10:49.260 So I don't, I don't consider it.

00:10:56.740 I do know that.

00:11:02.580 Yeah.

00:11:04.460 I don't.

00:11:05.660 I don't have any things that I have to do in order to go out the way I would like.

00:11:14.260 So that's a blessing.

00:11:15.260 So that's a blessing.

00:11:16.740 And about one of the best you can get, you know, is being okay with the body of work and the legacy and feelings and the emotions that you left, you know?

00:11:32.440 And, and, and I still haven't done my best, like, comedically, like, I'm still not my funniest, like, I'm still not working hard enough, like, I'm still not, I still haven't made a complete package of myself yet.

00:11:54.480 So.

00:11:55.480 Do you think some comedians start to feel like they have, and that that's a trap?

00:12:00.080 Most comedians have, though.

00:12:02.000 Ah.

00:12:02.300 Yeah, I'm saying that becomes part of the career is the fact that a lot of guys that are doing comedy right now were funny from 1995 to 2004.

00:12:16.100 2004, they're still working, they're still generating income, they're still, but their best comedy is long behind them.

00:12:27.700 They're not that comedian that was thinking something was funny and writing it down and figuring a way to get this to the people.

00:12:36.720 And so, yeah, it happens.

00:12:40.520 What sidetracks comedians?

00:12:41.740 I guess it could be all types of things, huh?

00:12:45.180 What sidetracks them from maybe fulfilling their, their, their.

00:12:50.140 Excellence is difficult.

00:12:53.140 But to be mediocre, it's no pressure.

00:12:56.560 Like, you know what I mean?

00:12:57.700 Oh, yeah.

00:12:58.380 Like, if you don't feel like you have to be the funniest person that this crowd has seen tonight, then you don't.

00:13:08.240 And there's nothing wrong with that.

00:13:11.160 Nobody's going to jam you up about it.

00:13:13.780 They'll go, oh, you were funny.

00:13:16.380 And for a lot of people, that's enough.

00:13:20.320 How do you pick on, you've had a lot of openers, like I've met a lot of your openers over the years here and there.

00:13:25.820 How do you choose them, man?

00:13:28.740 How do you choose these guys or women?

00:13:33.500 You need a lighter?

00:13:34.720 Whether you're, oh, no, no, I have no needs.

00:13:36.660 I apologize.

00:13:39.180 I choose them based upon whether, whether the, whether their point of view is unique to them.

00:13:49.720 Like, I don't care what a comedian's talking about.

00:13:53.020 That's your business.

00:13:54.100 I don't, I don't care what jokes you're making or how your set flows.

00:13:59.200 But are you telling a story about you?

00:14:03.660 Can people see this eight minutes, 12 minutes you're going to do and know you and have a chance to like you?

00:14:13.200 If you do that, then I, you can open for me because my allegiance is to the people out there in those seats.

00:14:22.980 And I want them to see the very best comedians that I can possibly bring somebody they'll enjoy, whether they're male or female or white or black.

00:14:33.800 Just do, do they come to work?

00:14:36.980 Do they have a show for you?

00:14:39.660 You see?

00:14:40.340 Yeah.

00:14:40.740 Yeah.

00:14:40.980 That's what I care about.

00:14:42.140 Yeah.

00:14:43.200 I think when I was getting into comedy in the beginning, I didn't, I wanted people to know me, right?

00:14:50.140 Like I never, I like the jokes and I want them to, I want them to laugh and feel good and see different ways that maybe I think and stuff.

00:14:57.900 But I wanted to sell myself.

00:14:59.660 That's what I always thought, I think.

00:15:01.800 Yeah.

00:15:02.380 When I first started, I didn't think I, I don't want you to remember one joke.

00:15:05.460 I want you to remember me, right?

00:15:07.020 Like I felt like this desperate.

00:15:09.120 That's a star though.

00:15:11.280 See, you knew that you would be a star.

00:15:13.440 That's different than a performer.

00:15:17.800 A performer is based upon the act.

00:15:21.020 What I'm saying is magicians ain't shit unless they doing magic.

00:15:25.340 Yeah.

00:15:26.160 Right?

00:15:26.480 Oh, if I see them bitches, yeah, I feel.

00:15:28.940 Oh, right.

00:15:30.100 Bro, come on.

00:15:31.300 Yeah.

00:15:31.620 But a true comedian is above the comedy material.

00:15:38.320 The jokes are secondary.

00:15:41.700 Yeah.

00:15:42.080 We like this guy and we want to hear what this guy has chosen to say to us about the topics of his choosing.

00:15:52.340 That's who you are.

00:15:53.040 You know what I mean?

00:15:53.780 That's who you are.

00:15:54.800 That's who you are, Kat.

00:15:55.680 Yeah.

00:15:56.220 Well, it takes one to know.

00:15:58.940 Yeah, you grew up in Ohio, huh?

00:16:05.920 Yes.

00:16:07.060 Yeah.

00:16:07.440 Did you grow up by Dave Chappelle?

00:16:08.720 You guys grew up near each other.

00:16:11.120 Dave Chappelle's not even from Ohio.

00:16:13.260 Isn't he?

00:16:13.680 I thought he's from Dayton.

00:16:15.140 I'm from Dayton.

00:16:16.780 Are you really?

00:16:17.740 Yeah.

00:16:18.080 Chappelle's from D.C.

00:16:18.900 Oh, damn.

00:16:20.480 My bad.

00:16:21.520 Sorry.

00:16:22.300 No problem.

00:16:22.640 But he lives in Dayton now, though.

00:16:24.280 Yeah.

00:16:24.740 He has a lot of, he owns probably $5 million worth of property out there.

00:16:29.820 Dang.

00:16:30.440 He's done really well for our Dayton, Ohio.

00:16:33.520 They got a beautiful museum out there I went to.

00:16:36.060 Dayton's a wonderful place.

00:16:37.400 They have the Air Force Museum, I think it is, out there?

00:16:41.600 Yeah.

00:16:42.400 Because we have Wright-Patterson Air Force Base that we're very, very proud of.

00:16:47.980 It's awesome.

00:16:49.060 Yeah, they have, I think Fat Man and Little Boy are in there.

00:16:52.280 Is it the, or the plane that dropped, those are planes that dropped the bombs on, I want

00:17:00.460 to say it's, I want to say it's Pearl Harbor in there, maybe?

00:17:04.540 Hiroshima.

00:17:05.700 It could be Hiroshima.

00:17:07.800 Little Boy and Fat Man.

00:17:09.520 There we are.

00:17:13.320 Yeah, that's what Rogan named his, the rooms of his comedy club after.

00:17:17.460 He certainly did.

00:17:18.660 The mothership.

00:17:19.620 Yeah, they really get it over there.

00:17:23.140 You feeling the pressure?

00:17:25.020 Of this interview?

00:17:26.280 No, no, of Austin.

00:17:28.520 Of moving there?

00:17:29.460 Is Austin calling you?

00:17:31.100 A little bit.

00:17:31.400 Are they trying to put pressure on you?

00:17:32.840 A little bit.

00:17:33.780 I didn't, like at first I wanted to do my own thing, like a lot of people were moving

00:17:37.160 there.

00:17:37.640 Yeah.

00:17:37.880 But now when I'm there, it just feels like it's a fun energy.

00:17:41.040 It is.

00:17:42.100 And there's people on stage, and you can go up and down that 6th Street, and you can

00:17:46.560 do five or six sets in a night.

00:17:49.860 I mean, that's a lot of practice, and it's probably within 800 footsteps or whatever.

00:17:55.460 Yeah.

00:17:56.540 So that to me seems really remarkable.

00:17:59.460 What's on your, what's on the new tour, what's it like?

00:18:02.180 Like, what's it like to still go out there?

00:18:03.760 What's it like to like, do you do in the round?

00:18:06.180 What's your show like?

00:18:07.600 I've been to a Cat Williams show.

00:18:10.120 Clearly.

00:18:10.820 Yeah.

00:18:11.320 And what a blessing.

00:18:12.620 You know what I mean?

00:18:13.400 That's true.

00:18:13.760 I still have it to look forward to.

00:18:15.100 Right.

00:18:15.460 And we just learned we got plenty of time, you know?

00:18:20.140 But it's like, I don't know, it's like a festival for laughs and good energy.

00:18:33.400 And there are different comedians before it gets to me.

00:18:41.460 And so you get a chance to get an overview of some of the greatest comedians around the

00:18:54.780 country and get a chance to see them.

00:18:58.600 And it's hosted by Monique.

00:19:01.560 And Monique is a super large figure in comedy.

00:19:07.680 And she has a great presence.

00:19:12.280 And then after all of said and done, then I come out and I congregate with the people

00:19:22.020 for an hour.

00:19:24.520 And yeah, the best thing I think is probably the fact that you've gotten your money's worth

00:19:29.840 twice before I get on stage.

00:19:32.320 Amen.

00:19:32.600 And I think that's the part I'm probably proudest of.

00:19:35.600 Yeah.

00:19:35.840 Were you, what do you bring with you on the road?

00:19:39.480 Somebody said you bring a Cybertruck.

00:19:40.880 Is that true?

00:19:45.220 Yes.

00:19:46.980 That's my work truck.

00:19:48.660 I have a Cybertruck.

00:19:49.580 That's why I was just curious what you thought about it.

00:19:51.440 When I'm home on the ranch, that's my farm truck.

00:19:58.480 I love it.

00:20:00.380 It's fun.

00:20:01.040 It feels like you're driving an email, kind of.

00:20:03.320 A what?

00:20:03.660 It feels like you're driving an email.

00:20:04.920 That's what I feel like sometimes.

00:20:08.360 It just feels like I'm in the future.

00:20:09.860 Like you could floor it and just.

00:20:11.340 Yeah.

00:20:11.760 It does feel like a UFO.

00:20:13.200 Yeah.

00:20:13.840 Like you'll put the gas on Monday.

00:20:15.580 Like you'll floor it and you'll fucking.

00:20:17.260 When it stops, it's fucking Thursday right there.

00:20:19.500 It's like it just has like a, I don't know.

00:20:24.940 Yeah.

00:20:25.340 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a unique experience, you know?

00:20:30.600 Have you met him?

00:20:31.560 Have you met Elon before?

00:20:32.980 No.

00:20:34.500 No.

00:20:34.940 I don't.

00:20:35.520 I don't, I don't generally enjoy the company of billionaires.

00:20:43.440 Yeah.

00:20:45.400 Yeah.

00:20:45.800 I'm trying to think if I know any good billionaires.

00:20:48.660 Well, it's not that they're not good, but I'm saying.

00:20:51.020 I don't need to be reminded of my inadequacies, you know?

00:20:56.080 Oh, yeah.

00:20:56.880 Yeah.

00:20:58.240 Yeah.

00:21:00.900 What, um, what do you do for fitness, man?

00:21:04.400 What's your fitness regime like?

00:21:05.780 You got a regime each day or what's that like?

00:21:08.620 The ladies keep me fit.

00:21:10.480 I'm heavy in sexual relations.

00:21:12.020 And so, um.

00:21:14.180 Oh, yeah.

00:21:14.980 That keeps you pretty, pretty fit.

00:21:18.240 Oh, yeah.

00:21:18.760 I got a cold plunge and a jacuzzi and a sauna that I do pretty ritualistic.

00:21:27.380 And I've never been a gym guy.

00:21:30.940 I got two torn rotator cuffs.

00:21:33.220 Oh, damn.

00:21:33.940 Both them bitches go on, huh?

00:21:35.480 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:36.200 Yeah, so golf is basically how I stay where I'm trying to be.

00:21:42.840 But I've, I've never been, um, I've never been seven pounds under or over in my life.

00:21:51.560 You're that middle dog.

00:21:52.480 Yeah, dog.

00:21:53.280 Like, I'm at 150, you know?

00:21:56.260 On the dime, baby, he'll show up.

00:21:58.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:58.920 He'll fucking checkmate a scale, baby.

00:22:01.300 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:02.360 Yeah.

00:22:03.000 Right, right.

00:22:03.800 Yeah, I think I, I like, what have I been doing recently?

00:22:06.900 Swimming.

00:22:07.320 Oh, there's you playing golf right there.

00:22:10.740 Damn, kid, out there.

00:22:13.660 Right.

00:22:14.220 So, you know, if you can get 222 without your arms ever going above your head and do it consistently

00:22:24.400 where it always ends up in the fairway, you're hitting, you know, 14, 16 out of 18 in the

00:22:32.460 fairway, you know, this is, then you can play the game a little better.

00:22:37.140 You're banging out there, yeah.

00:22:38.680 Well.

00:22:39.340 You can't get them arms.

00:22:40.560 I guess at a certain point, your arms don't need to go that high in the air anyway, though.

00:22:43.900 I'm trying to think of what I.

00:22:44.860 Well, it would certainly, it would certainly give me more yards and a fuller thing.

00:22:52.340 It's just the rotator cuffs don't allow it.

00:22:56.820 So, I started golfing with these 80-year-old guys that, you know.

00:23:03.740 Them bitches, you gotta wait.

00:23:04.920 You gotta.

00:23:05.360 Like, they can barely get out the car.

00:23:07.280 Yeah.

00:23:07.420 But then they come out there and I'll drive you.

00:23:10.240 Every shot is better than your, like, so they taught me how to play golf under restraint

00:23:18.800 so as to not hurt myself, you know, so.

00:23:22.240 And how'd you bang them cuffs up?

00:23:23.960 What happened, you think?

00:23:25.600 What you mean?

00:23:26.400 How'd you, uh.

00:23:27.900 Oh, I was.

00:23:29.000 Were you swimming?

00:23:29.500 I was in the midst of a, uh, of a push-up contest.

00:23:35.440 No way.

00:23:36.340 You blew them out.

00:23:38.120 Yeah.

00:23:38.720 Oh, man.

00:23:39.460 But I was, I was probably at 200.

00:23:42.920 I was doing too much.

00:23:44.800 You did 200 push-ups?

00:23:46.500 Yeah.

00:23:47.520 Yeah.

00:23:48.320 And tore the cuffs both.

00:23:50.600 Damn, you ripped both them bitches, man.

00:23:53.820 God dang, boy.

00:23:55.380 You better pull up at a jiffy lube and get well, buddy.

00:23:59.880 I'm going against, because the way it worked is you could do as many as you wanted when you stop.

00:24:07.420 It's my goal, and I got a match.

00:24:09.540 You know what I mean?

00:24:10.460 So.

00:24:11.980 You took it to the limits, huh?

00:24:13.780 It was a horse.

00:24:16.360 You took it to the limits, right?

00:24:18.280 Yeah.

00:24:18.540 Maybe, you could probably do some swimming safely.

00:24:20.720 Maybe I could see you getting.

00:24:21.520 No, I'm an avid water guy.

00:24:23.620 Yeah.

00:24:23.860 Yeah.

00:24:23.900 Yeah.

00:24:23.960 I'm like, I'm in the water probably more than.

00:24:29.880 You're that dark koi, baby.

00:24:31.360 You out there.

00:24:32.420 I love the water.

00:24:33.700 Yeah.

00:24:33.960 Yeah.

00:24:34.640 I pray underwater, like, because, you know, evil can't access you underwater, you know?

00:24:44.120 Oh, that's interesting.

00:24:45.140 A lot of people don't know.

00:24:46.600 Is that true?

00:24:47.640 Yeah.

00:24:48.500 And.

00:24:49.440 Maybe that's why a baby, a child is an amniotic fluid, huh?

00:24:51.980 Yeah, like, water is super powerful, like a living being.

00:24:57.880 I'm sure that soon in the future, they will confirm for us that water is a sentient being.

00:25:07.520 And that, you know.

00:25:09.860 Man, that's going to be, if they do that.

00:25:11.920 Well, that's why all throughout history, there was always gods of water, just because it's such a powerful force.

00:25:21.980 Yeah.

00:25:23.700 Yeah.

00:25:24.660 God, it's great.

00:25:25.580 Yeah, I have a trouble out there.

00:25:26.560 I think I'm just not the best swimmer, man.

00:25:28.500 I never, I don't like to swim cap either, you know?

00:25:31.300 I never liked putting that cap on.

00:25:33.840 That just was not something that, that was my vibe, you know?

00:25:37.480 What do you mean by not a good swimmer?

00:25:39.620 I just, I don't like it, man.

00:25:41.840 I don't like being out in there.

00:25:43.840 I'm kind of a land dog.

00:25:45.280 I like being on land.

00:25:46.960 I respect water too much.

00:25:48.600 I think I get too scared in it.

00:25:50.180 I just.

00:25:50.660 Oh, yeah.

00:25:51.380 That's it.

00:25:51.820 I get scared in it.

00:25:52.880 Yeah.

00:25:53.200 You have to have a real respect for it, no matter what, like on a boat or regardless.

00:26:00.180 Yeah.

00:26:00.320 Like it's, it's one of those crazy things that, you know, it's beautiful and wonderful and it sustains life,

00:26:07.320 but it has a thousand ways to kill you and it, yeah, it houses the scariest in the whole world.

00:26:18.180 Yeah, I just get nervous.

00:26:19.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:19.900 But what are you like in a jacuzzi though?

00:26:22.900 I'm pretty chill, I think, you know?

00:26:25.080 I'm okay in a jacuzzi, but even then, if nobody's around, I don't know, I just don't know if I trust myself or not, not to, not to like.

00:26:32.340 Yeah.

00:26:32.580 If I even fuck, if I'm even driving through a long puddle, I'll fucking, I'll look at my watch and make sure everything's all right.

00:26:38.140 You know, I just get.

00:26:38.940 But you had a drowning incident in your past?

00:26:41.020 I think I've just had some probably nervous experiences with it, man.

00:26:44.320 We used to have a neighbor and this guy was probably, I don't know if he, he had like one of them big bathtubs they had at their house.

00:26:51.300 And they would, he would play, he would make us play Navy or something.

00:26:55.720 He's probably a gay guy, but we didn't know, right?

00:26:57.920 But he would have us playing Navy.

00:26:59.700 You have, you have more than six of those stories.

00:27:03.000 So you can't, you can't claim it now.

00:27:06.620 Yeah, we had, well, but he'd have us play, but it was just like a lot of.

00:27:10.300 It was a guy looking in, had you looking in buttholes.

00:27:13.200 So I'm saying.

00:27:13.900 Yeah, we've had some fucking wild neighbors, bro.

00:27:17.900 Some of these guys were for certain games.

00:27:21.200 I don't know if they was gay.

00:27:22.480 I don't know if they were.

00:27:22.920 I'm not sure what they were.

00:27:26.260 We're sure, we're sure what they were.

00:27:29.560 You just made it through all the gauntlets, like as a participant.

00:27:34.320 Oh yeah, bro.

00:27:35.400 I'll fucking, I'll put a juke on a nut sack.

00:27:38.040 You know what I'm saying?

00:27:39.020 Give me my $4.

00:27:40.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:43.720 Bro, I get, we grew up just, but back then they had this more pedophiles and wildness,

00:27:48.620 I think back then, man.

00:27:50.080 People wouldn't, now it's all documented, you know?

00:27:52.880 Right.

00:27:53.340 But back then it was just, people was more, you know, I remember we had a guy, they call,

00:28:00.580 one basketball coach had been like kind of tickling the kids a lot, right?

00:28:04.620 And then the other guy called him and he said, he said, hey, if you keep.

00:28:11.620 You said that's so natural.

00:28:13.060 You said that's so naturally.

00:28:15.600 Like that's a thing that coaches can find themselves dealing with.

00:28:20.440 He's trying to get that three-pointer out of you, bro.

00:28:23.000 He's trying to, but they had, yeah, just, but they called him and said, hey, they said,

00:28:30.640 Mr. Sharp, you say, you can't, if you keep tickling the kids, you can't coach them no more.

00:28:35.800 But that was it.

00:28:36.540 There wasn't like a lawsuit or anything.

00:28:38.100 It was just more, you know, stern activity.

00:28:42.000 Don't do it.

00:28:43.260 Don't do it like that.

00:28:45.080 But we had, I mean, I don't, I don't fucking know, man.

00:28:47.560 What was I, what were we talking about?

00:28:48.980 Oh, Jeff, swimming people.

00:28:51.620 Swimming, man.

00:28:52.440 Yeah.

00:28:52.640 I never, I think I just get too nervous in water.

00:28:54.760 I just, I know it's too powerful.

00:28:56.940 That's what I know.

00:28:57.760 Yeah.

00:28:58.220 I know it's way more powerful than I am, man.

00:29:00.980 Yeah.

00:29:01.860 But it's so funny that like, yeah, cause I could see you, man.

00:29:05.520 I think sometimes if I think about you, I think about you, like, I could see you having

00:29:09.540 like a show at a SeaWorld or something like that, you know?

00:29:14.280 Like, you know what I'm saying?

00:29:15.900 Matt, like a, the, no, it'll be a one night only.

00:29:22.300 But still.

00:29:22.740 Cause I'm letting all the, I'm letting everybody out.

00:29:25.160 Are you freeing?

00:29:26.380 Like, this is wrong.

00:29:27.820 You freeing?

00:29:28.540 Like, I'm black.

00:29:29.420 I'm not going to stand here in front of a prison and do a show.

00:29:33.620 No, you freeing all the black fish on everything.

00:29:36.780 All the fish.

00:29:38.020 Every fish in the ocean, bro.

00:29:40.440 Free Nemo, bro, until it's backwards, man.

00:29:42.760 I don't know what happened yesterday.

00:29:45.680 Everyone's gone.

00:29:46.360 Dude, if they had one, if they had one night though.

00:29:52.020 Yeah.

00:29:52.280 I'm talking a five, $320 ticket.

00:29:56.380 It's a pricey ticket, but it's a one night only Cat Williams and the whales, baby.

00:30:02.200 Right.

00:30:02.680 Cat, fish.

00:30:05.840 I got you.

00:30:07.660 People, bro.

00:30:09.120 It'd be unprecedented, man.

00:30:11.260 You know?

00:30:12.020 Indeed.

00:30:13.100 Indeed it would.

00:30:14.000 It would be unprecedented.

00:30:15.020 People would love it, man.

00:30:16.760 I think people are loving the fact that you're sharing new stories.

00:30:21.960 Thanks, man.

00:30:23.760 Right.

00:30:24.560 Yeah, I like, I.

00:30:25.500 So get back to the guy in his big bathtub.

00:30:28.120 Oh, yeah.

00:30:29.180 Roy was his name.

00:30:30.200 Roy.

00:30:30.400 And he ended up in the military, but at the time, nobody knew that, you know?

00:30:34.780 We were just children and he was, and he got a whistle or something.

00:30:38.300 Somebody bought him a whistle.

00:30:39.640 And so he would, he would just have us like do these like little games or whatever, you

00:30:44.840 know?

00:30:45.560 And, and so I don't know if I, I don't know if kids were violent during that or

00:30:49.840 sometimes people would be aggressive or something.

00:30:52.040 But I, I think maybe that made me nervous about water.

00:30:55.280 My sister drowned, almost drowned one time.

00:30:58.520 I thought she did.

00:30:59.520 She didn't, but she almost drowned once.

00:31:01.500 So I think just stuff like that.

00:31:03.080 We would go swim in a river and there weren't a lot of lifeguards.

00:31:06.980 So I think that's super scary because, you know, you get caught with a current or something.

00:31:12.020 It's just real.

00:31:13.680 It can be a lot, you know?

00:31:16.000 Which river?

00:31:17.140 The river we were at, I think it was probably part of the Chifuncta, like a little tributary

00:31:21.120 of it.

00:31:22.200 Dirty water?

00:31:23.080 Yeah.

00:31:24.240 That's scary too.

00:31:25.480 Yeah.

00:31:26.960 Yeah.

00:31:27.340 So there's that kind of atmosphere, I guess, maybe.

00:31:30.280 Trying to think what made me so scared.

00:31:31.760 And you know what?

00:31:32.300 I don't know if I knew how to swim that great.

00:31:36.220 Yeah.

00:31:36.840 Chifuncta river.

00:31:38.420 I don't know if I knew how to swim that great, to be honest with you.

00:31:42.860 But yeah, I think, yeah, people could.

00:31:44.960 But I would love to see you do a water show of some sort one day if you ventured out to

00:31:50.760 that sort of thing.

00:31:51.940 I appreciate the fact that you're giving me ideas of things that are unprecedented.

00:31:57.760 Yeah.

00:31:57.960 It'd be really cool, man.

00:31:59.180 Nobody else has a water show.

00:32:03.340 I love it.

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00:36:36.640 Were you affected by the fires, Kat?

00:36:39.440 Do y'all have any damage?

00:36:42.000 Um, I felt like everybody that I, everybody in my work life lived in the Palisades.

00:36:58.480 Like, yeah, it's a massive gut punch.

00:37:05.120 It's just the, um, the lives and economies of people that have been destroyed.

00:37:13.440 But, um, this is how life, this is how life operates, you know?

00:37:20.760 It's, um, it's very humbling.

00:37:22.600 It's, uh, for there to be thousands of homeless millionaires, you know?

00:37:29.620 Yeah.

00:37:32.160 Yeah, it's so surprising, man.

00:37:33.620 I had a friend I was talking to, and he said, hey, do you want me to go to your apartment and get your,

00:37:39.480 I got a Jeep Cherokee out of here, so you want me to go get it in case the winds change it?

00:37:43.800 And I said, ah, I think it's going to be okay.

00:37:48.420 And I said, what are you doing?

00:37:49.480 He's like, I'm going to an audition.

00:37:51.820 And it was just so wild that you had places that were completely disappear off the earth.

00:37:57.720 And then you have a guy who's going to an audition at the same time, you know?

00:38:02.040 Just that there's so many things happening at once in this.

00:38:04.640 It's like part of it is so affected and some of it is unaffected, you know?

00:38:08.760 Kind of just was a dichotomy.

00:38:11.580 Yeah, I feel that way every time I watch international news, you know what I mean?

00:38:16.600 Just if you watch another country's news and see all of the stuff that they're going through

00:38:22.300 that we never hear about or know about or, yeah, it's crazy.

00:38:28.220 L.A. is just so massive of a city, you know?

00:38:31.680 Yeah, it's like a state almost in a way.

00:38:33.160 Right, like L.A. is like a collection of 100 cities, you know, that make this.

00:38:39.060 That's a good point.

00:38:39.680 I've never thought about it like that.

00:38:41.300 With Hollywood and Encino and Beverly Hills and all Compton, Gardena and Englewood and Hawthorne

00:38:52.140 and Torrance and the city of Palmers.

00:38:54.400 And all of these places are fingers and pieces of the body that is L.A.

00:39:03.000 So there's no way for six or seven of those parts to be going through pain and the body to be okay.

00:39:15.560 But by the same token, it has to be, you know what I mean?

00:39:20.560 Like, if you break your finger, the rest of your fingers still got work to do.

00:39:28.320 Yeah.

00:39:29.020 You know what I mean?

00:39:30.180 Like.

00:39:33.480 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:34.520 Oh, yeah.

00:39:36.560 Yeah, mine.

00:39:39.420 Yeah, sometimes I think about what it would be like, like if I were like another ethnicity, you know?

00:39:46.520 You ever imagine like that?

00:39:47.500 Like if you was an Asian guy?

00:39:50.560 Like if you could handle it?

00:39:54.240 No.

00:39:54.900 I, um.

00:39:56.700 You ever had dreams like that where you're Asian?

00:39:58.680 I'm not sure if you have those when you're black.

00:40:00.880 Like, I'm saying I was born black.

00:40:11.560 So I was born a superior being, a superb specimen, if you will, as far as human creations are concerned.

00:40:23.720 And so I never wanted to be anything other than that.

00:40:30.700 I wanted to know how other people felt.

00:40:38.400 So I didn't.

00:40:39.540 But you never like thought I want to be that.

00:40:42.500 No.

00:40:42.980 Yeah.

00:40:44.700 No.

00:40:45.500 But maybe some of that is because I didn't think that was possible.

00:40:50.420 I didn't see it from a negative perspective.

00:41:02.760 I saw it from a positive perspective.

00:41:07.880 You know what I mean?

00:41:08.540 Like, like I'm in the driver's seat.

00:41:10.160 I don't.

00:41:11.480 Yeah.

00:41:11.960 It'd be cool to be a passenger, but I'm, I like the seat I'm in.

00:41:16.600 That makes sense?

00:41:17.360 Yeah.

00:41:17.580 I didn't think that, I didn't think that Chinese people were having more fun or doing better things.

00:41:28.860 Or I thought they were doing different things.

00:41:32.000 Yeah, they're doing fine.

00:41:33.040 Yeah.

00:41:33.280 And I was interested in knowing what those were, but it never dawned on me that they might be better.

00:41:39.000 Yeah.

00:41:39.180 You know what I mean?

00:41:40.000 Right.

00:41:40.200 And I had, I had white friends that were admirable, but I didn't imagine being white.

00:41:50.940 And I didn't think that they imagined being black, I guess, either.

00:41:56.120 But you have a great imagination, which is what makes you world class.

00:42:02.860 You know, like you have to have that.

00:42:04.900 Because I heard you tell the story of, you know, I know the stories.

00:42:11.200 Yeah, I think, because I think about that a lot, I guess, of what it would be like to be different ethnicities, if I could handle it.

00:42:19.860 You know, if I would think it was fun.

00:42:22.400 I don't think that you would be as different from yourself as you.

00:42:28.200 Or as a white guy.

00:42:29.420 As you imagine that you would be.

00:42:31.360 Oh, you would just be kind of the same, but just in different shape.

00:42:34.200 Right, right.

00:42:34.740 What I'm saying is, I don't, I don't think that you, you, because.

00:42:40.340 So you think the thoughts and all are kind of the same than you think.

00:42:43.000 Like that's.

00:42:44.920 I'm almost certain.

00:42:46.600 I'm almost certain that you as a black guy are also not the norm.

00:42:54.360 You're not.

00:42:55.540 Yeah.

00:42:56.100 You're.

00:42:57.340 I could do it, I think.

00:42:58.600 I am a singular.

00:43:01.020 Yeah, you can.

00:43:02.980 I would like, you know, if they ever.

00:43:04.980 I don't know what I'm saying.

00:43:05.720 I'm trying to culture vulture or whatever.

00:43:08.440 But I would like, if they ever give you, if they do, you know, if they let people, if

00:43:13.960 I get to do reincarnation, I would put in an application.

00:43:16.660 I know that.

00:43:17.280 Okay.

00:43:17.600 So let's, let's work this out.

00:43:19.500 Let's work this out.

00:43:20.460 Because if reincarnation is real, you have some say in it.

00:43:29.200 Right.

00:43:29.260 That's right.

00:43:29.640 Because you probably get to apply or talk to the manager.

00:43:31.820 I'm saying there's nobody else's opinion that will be more valued than yours.

00:43:36.620 Right.

00:43:36.900 So let's decide.

00:43:40.140 So, so where are you coming back?

00:43:43.020 What do you want to, what do you want to try first?

00:43:45.300 I would, uh, ethnicity you mean?

00:43:47.380 Don't go right to black.

00:43:48.660 Okay.

00:43:48.940 I won't.

00:43:49.660 I'll wait.

00:43:50.080 I'll wait.

00:43:50.520 Yeah.

00:43:50.660 I'll wait at least a round or whatever.

00:43:52.100 I will do.

00:43:54.580 I don't know if I, what I do.

00:43:56.560 I don't, Asian seems so.

00:44:01.200 It feels like you could do.

00:44:02.300 It feels easy to do kind of.

00:44:04.820 I hate to say that.

00:44:05.840 It just seems.

00:44:06.180 Yeah.

00:44:06.320 That's race.

00:44:07.160 Sorry.

00:44:08.020 No, it's okay.

00:44:08.720 Okay.

00:44:09.820 Yes.

00:44:10.260 I said it.

00:44:11.460 Asian people.

00:44:13.080 Oh, I would be Mexican.

00:44:14.520 Seems, Mexican seems cool.

00:44:16.480 It's, you're kind of almost a, you're like a little black or whatever, but you're also,

00:44:22.100 you're just.

00:44:22.440 Right.

00:44:22.700 What was his name?

00:44:25.180 That came in your school?

00:44:28.140 Oh.

00:44:28.540 Oh, no, the kid, the kid, the first Mexican that we ever had in our school.

00:44:33.540 Not Constantine.

00:44:34.980 No, Nicholas.

00:44:35.860 Nicholas.

00:44:36.620 Yeah.

00:44:37.000 Right.

00:44:38.000 Right.

00:44:38.300 So, you at least have some experience.

00:44:40.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:41.700 Like, you know how you could show up, you know, and you could be a hero and not get ahead

00:44:47.820 of yourself.

00:44:49.020 Yeah.

00:44:49.240 Yeah, I would go easy into it.

00:44:50.520 I wouldn't let anybody know that I was, had been there, that I was, it was my first time.

00:44:56.420 You know, I think you'd have to be, because sometimes I believe you have first times as

00:45:01.580 a human even, like you meet some people and it's like, oh, this is this person's first

00:45:06.040 time being a human, the soul.

00:45:09.140 Like, this is a, this is a damn newborn, you know?

00:45:12.000 Right.

00:45:12.540 And then you meet some people, you're like, damn, this person is a sensei.

00:45:15.780 This person has been.

00:45:16.940 They've been here before.

00:45:17.820 They've been here before.

00:45:18.680 Right.

00:45:19.420 But yeah, I wouldn't go do black first, man.

00:45:20.980 I wouldn't, yeah, I would definitely keep that for like a, or I would, yeah, I would

00:45:26.860 try, I would be, I would be honored to do it if they let me do it.

00:45:29.880 That's what I would say.

00:45:31.000 I don't, I don't speak for the entire delegation, but.

00:45:36.780 And I would do my best, man.

00:45:38.520 We would be, that's, again, as a black guy, we would be honored to have you come through

00:45:46.780 our path.

00:45:48.240 And, um, the only reason I said don't do it first is just because there are certain

00:45:53.740 things that go along with it that you just don't know how you would handle it, you know?

00:45:58.820 Yeah.

00:45:59.080 Until you got the dick of a horse and then you just got to figure this thing out.

00:46:03.940 Like, fuck, yeah.

00:46:05.800 Oh, yeah.

00:46:06.260 You got a parallel park even probably tougher.

00:46:09.000 You know, everything is different.

00:46:10.720 Everything a little bit different, I'm sure.

00:46:13.360 But yeah, it'd be, yeah.

00:46:14.740 I don't know if I'd go a lot, if, yeah, I would like to, especially if I got to bring a

00:46:18.180 friend, I would definitely do it, man.

00:46:20.100 If I could.

00:46:20.580 You don't get to bring a friend.

00:46:22.020 Ooh.

00:46:22.740 You make new friends with each of the, you see what I'm saying?

00:46:27.040 Yeah.

00:46:28.460 I know.

00:46:29.040 See, I want to just have some safety, you know?

00:46:31.360 Same reason I don't want to be in the water, you know?

00:46:34.460 It's just when I feel risk, it makes me, I think it makes me feel nervous, you know?

00:46:38.500 Right, but nervousness was created for that.

00:46:43.300 That's, nervousness is a good thing.

00:46:45.880 You're, you're supposed to feel that.

00:46:48.100 But that doesn't dictate whether you continue.

00:46:52.580 And, and if you can get a hold of that, understanding that nervousness doesn't mean stop.

00:47:00.180 The yellow light doesn't mean stop.

00:47:02.760 The yellow light means be cautious, right?

00:47:08.840 And so when you feel those nerves, understand those nerves mean, okay, don't fuck around.

00:47:15.960 But you can still enjoy.

00:47:18.060 Yeah.

00:47:18.820 Yeah.

00:47:19.300 So we're going to get you closer to the water in 2025.

00:47:23.020 And we're going to deal with some of these ethnic blockages, maybe?

00:47:36.160 I don't think they're blockages.

00:47:37.880 You're very open-minded.

00:47:39.720 Yeah.

00:47:39.940 Thanks, man.

00:47:40.620 Yeah.

00:47:40.760 They're not blockages.

00:47:41.560 Yeah.

00:47:41.720 Just, you're not dealing with blockage.

00:47:43.360 You're dealing with uncertainty as to who you are in the universe and whether or not you belong in the places you feel like you.

00:47:57.600 Man, that's interesting.

00:47:59.520 That is kind of how I feel.

00:48:02.120 Yeah, because I'm always thinking of what this other thing would be like, kind of.

00:48:05.820 Right.

00:48:07.220 Right.

00:48:07.700 Because, you know.

00:48:08.660 I never thought, I never really thought about it like that.

00:48:10.720 But, I don't believe this is your home planet, you know.

00:48:18.200 Do you believe that most of the people here that are living right now that this is their home planet?

00:48:30.540 No.

00:48:33.260 No.

00:48:34.880 So you feel like it's more, that we're a, you feel like we're maybe a species from somewhere else.

00:48:40.480 So it's been kind of, that landed here or that got?

00:48:44.640 Mm-hmm.

00:48:47.140 All of the religions tell the same story.

00:48:52.200 And all of the stories are started up there and then end up down here and then continue.

00:48:59.960 And there's a reason for that, I believe.

00:49:03.600 Do you feel like this is like a place we're supposed to learn something?

00:49:08.820 Do you feel like it's a place that we're kind of just spending time?

00:49:12.800 An experience.

00:49:14.060 Mm-hmm.

00:49:15.140 A destination.

00:49:16.120 You and I are at an age where we remember when the video game experience wasn't what it is now.

00:49:27.420 Mm-hmm.

00:49:27.640 It was still a game like Monopoly or something, you know.

00:49:32.500 Where it is now, it's a whole different universe that you can live inside from your Xbox or your PlayStation.

00:49:43.720 And in Call of Duty, you're an actual soldier and you get kills and deaths and eliminations.

00:49:52.840 And when you then cross over to the PGA game, you have your actual golfer that looks like you and has the name you gave him.

00:50:03.300 And he's really going to go out there and do this 18 on Whistling Straight.

00:50:07.780 You know what I mean?

00:50:08.700 Like, yeah, then I go and get in my Podium One sim racer and I pick the car of my choice and I'm an actual racer.

00:50:23.720 So those experiences located in that console, that's this experience here on Earth that we're all able to share.

00:50:35.820 And that's what would make that reincarnation possible.

00:50:40.480 It just means, oh, yesterday I played that game and today I'm logging in this experience.

00:50:49.120 And so, yeah, certainly a universal college, if you will.

00:50:58.180 Yeah.

00:50:59.820 Yeah, sometimes I forget.

00:51:01.140 I get caught up in the minutia of things, you know.

00:51:03.340 And I forget to kind of have this bigger breath of like, this is an experience.

00:51:10.160 It's not a sentence.

00:51:11.480 An experience in which you're winning.

00:51:14.500 Right.

00:51:14.820 And an experience in which you're in a better position than others who have been in this same, you are excelling in a life in which you very well could have turned out to be nothing.

00:51:36.000 Yeah.

00:51:36.300 Or another statistic or just another forgotten body in a ditch.

00:51:44.520 And those were the hazards.

00:51:48.040 Right.

00:51:48.680 Yeah.

00:51:49.000 And you, Theo Vaughn, made it through all of that and negated all of those horrific possibilities and are here in this position the best you've ever been.

00:52:02.680 You know.

00:52:03.220 And those are the facts.

00:52:04.560 And if we tell ourselves more of the facts in our head, then we don't hear so much negative, you know.

00:52:14.160 If we try and just focus on telling ourselves the facts?

00:52:16.640 Yeah.

00:52:16.960 Of how good we're doing.

00:52:19.500 Like, we're much too hard on ourselves.

00:52:23.020 Oh, yeah.

00:52:23.620 Yeah.

00:52:23.820 I feel that all the time, man.

00:52:25.280 Yeah.

00:52:25.460 I feel like I don't know any other way to be almost sometimes.

00:52:27.660 Like, not in a bad way, but, yeah, I feel like it's this constant sentence.

00:52:33.660 You know, like, you've got to – I feel like there's always been this to-do list that I don't even make.

00:52:38.060 Right.

00:52:38.160 And it's just always been there.

00:52:39.280 Does that make any sense to you?

00:52:40.320 Yeah.

00:52:40.540 That's how I feel all the time.

00:52:43.720 Right.

00:52:44.020 Like, whew, I got to do, you know, still have to prove it, you know, a constant of approving.

00:52:49.200 This – all winners have that disease.

00:52:51.860 It's – it's self-inflicted.

00:52:59.780 It's for you.

00:53:03.540 It's you doing that.

00:53:05.900 And there's nothing wrong with that harsh management.

00:53:09.100 It's what gets you to the point that you're at.

00:53:11.660 But if you have animals, you know that a relationship doesn't do good with just control words, just sit and stay.

00:53:28.180 And there needs to be connection fostered.

00:53:34.980 And treats are the best thing for learning, you know?

00:53:41.960 And so treat yourself with those type of things as well.

00:53:47.900 Like, don't forget to remind yourself of all of the people that you tell stories about and the fact that that was it for them.

00:54:01.980 That little piece of the story you told, like, they didn't get better.

00:54:06.500 Like, they didn't then change some stuff and go like – you did, you know?

00:54:13.800 Yeah.

00:54:14.320 Yeah.

00:54:14.500 Do you feel like – who was, like, a role model when you were growing up?

00:54:19.620 Where do you think you got some of your own influences from?

00:54:22.100 Do you think it was from people, like, actually humans in the world?

00:54:25.600 Or do you feel like you had kind of, like, divine thoughts that came into your head or guidance?

00:54:29.860 Like, where did that kind of stuff affect you, like, when you were younger, do you feel like?

00:54:33.560 Like, I got it all from books.

00:54:38.000 Like, I got it all from books.

00:54:41.660 What are you smoking, Kat?

00:54:43.160 Sir?

00:54:44.120 Brother?

00:54:45.220 You smoking?

00:54:46.600 If it's not pot, I can smoke it.

00:54:49.700 That's right.

00:54:50.600 He said if it's not pot, I can smoke it.

00:54:53.160 Yeah, it's for certain pot.

00:54:54.820 Oh, it is?

00:54:55.320 Yeah, sir.

00:54:55.820 Oh, damn, brother.

00:54:57.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:58.820 Sorry, if you needed a cigarette, you could have one.

00:55:01.760 Yeah, I might have a cigarette with you, mate.

00:55:03.460 Sure.

00:55:05.160 What you're getting ready to have is not even available in this place that we live in.

00:55:13.220 I mean, California, L.A.

00:55:16.640 Yeah.

00:55:18.180 Oh, they don't have Newports here?

00:55:20.180 Yeah, they're not allowed to do menthols.

00:55:24.120 So racist.

00:55:24.880 Yeah, it's weird.

00:55:27.520 You can burn down a whole town, but you can't have a Newport.

00:55:30.580 Right.

00:55:34.520 Right.

00:55:35.720 And your blackness begins.

00:55:37.720 Yeah.

00:55:42.940 Yes, sir.

00:55:46.180 Sorry.

00:55:46.540 What's that?

00:55:47.340 I love that a lot.

00:55:48.780 Yes, sir.

00:55:50.320 We had some cool black kids growing up in our area, bro.

00:55:53.960 Right.

00:55:55.880 Right.

00:55:57.600 Your basketball team picture is just so wonderful.

00:56:01.800 Oh, thanks, man.

00:56:03.280 Cal Jackson on there.

00:56:04.460 Don Galatis.

00:56:05.300 He had a child.

00:56:07.600 Number 34 of our basketball picture.

00:56:09.780 We had a lot of good kids in there, man.

00:56:11.940 Right.

00:56:12.420 Shout out James Gray.

00:56:13.680 His dad ran a tire place.

00:56:17.060 He was in there.

00:56:19.100 There's Vincent.

00:56:20.100 He got all the ladies.

00:56:21.120 Vincent did.

00:56:21.800 And Johnny, that's big Johnny.

00:56:25.160 He was damn 11 feet tall, baby.

00:56:27.400 He had birds living on his shoulders, baby.

00:56:29.400 He was up there.

00:56:32.200 Look.

00:56:33.140 We had a lot of cool kids in our area.

00:56:34.980 That's how we know everything is perception for you.

00:56:40.120 You know what I mean?

00:56:40.900 Because you gave two whole different sizes for two niggas that's the same size.

00:56:47.600 You can see they're the same size in the picture, you know?

00:56:52.420 He doesn't let that change his story.

00:56:54.580 One of them was 7'7".

00:56:56.480 He was bigger than all the trees.

00:56:58.820 The other one was 6'1".

00:57:00.920 Here they are together.

00:57:02.960 Bro, Johnny was so tall, he had windows on the side of his head, but he was tall, man.

00:57:07.460 He was...

00:57:07.920 No, you were kneeling down.

00:57:09.340 Yeah.

00:57:09.640 Countless stories.

00:57:10.960 Yeah, I might have...

00:57:11.660 That's true.

00:57:12.540 You're right.

00:57:16.500 I was kneeling down, man.

00:57:18.280 Yeah, but these experience, like, no matter what, like, that dude number 34, like, we want

00:57:25.940 to hear his stories.

00:57:27.200 Yeah.

00:57:27.760 Like, we know he's got stories, and we want to know if he'll tell the stories, and the

00:57:32.880 fact that that's what you do is why.

00:57:37.200 Well, thanks, man.

00:57:38.280 Thanks for the nice words.

00:57:42.000 I appreciate it.

00:57:42.680 You do a great job, too, man.

00:57:44.060 Thank you for all the joy over the years.

00:57:48.080 You just bought a military base, is that right?

00:57:53.880 Yeah.

00:57:54.940 Formerly Fort McClellan.

00:57:57.420 Fort McClellan.

00:57:58.580 And was it an active base until recently, or...?

00:58:02.140 I think it decommissioned in 1999.

00:58:07.100 What's it like over there?

00:58:09.940 Magnificent.

00:58:11.780 Magnificent.

00:58:12.480 It's going to be one of the greatest things that I personally have ever done, but it's...

00:58:19.380 This is it?

00:58:19.940 That's the front side of the beginning of the campus, which is 30 buildings, 3 million

00:58:32.740 indoor square feet, four and a half miles of roads.

00:58:39.460 It's like, you know, we got the best parts of the base.

00:58:44.420 They had chemical testing and stuff.

00:58:47.560 We don't have those parts of the base.

00:58:50.220 That's the Department of Homeland Security.

00:58:52.500 But, yeah, we just have a wonderful, blessed base at the foothills of the mountains, and it's really magical.

00:59:04.940 And I was able to see what Tyler Perry was able to do with 200 or 300 acres and a military base.

00:59:16.540 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:59:17.380 And how you could make a movie studio out of that.

00:59:22.760 And so, yeah, it hit the news recently, but I purchased it years, a couple years back.

00:59:38.440 Yeah, I've had it, so we've been working.

00:59:40.560 Was that a tough step to, like, take that, like, okay, we can get this and we can do this?

00:59:47.060 Like, did you reach out to Tyler Perry?

00:59:48.340 Because I know he has, like, in Atlanta, he has an amazing space.

00:59:51.380 He may have many spaces now.

00:59:52.940 This was three years ago.

00:59:53.920 I went to a space there to train for something, and they were, it was unbelievable.

00:59:59.120 No, no, no.

00:59:59.720 I wasn't looking then or now for assistance.

01:00:05.540 Like, we can do this.

01:00:07.520 I just needed to be able to have a home where great movies and entertainment product could

01:00:20.200 be made without any of the shenanigans that are generally involved with Hollywood and be

01:00:27.400 able to crank them out.

01:00:29.080 And that all it needs to do is be good.

01:00:34.720 If it's good, we're going to make it.

01:00:37.360 And so, even though it might have appeared from interviews of me that, you know, this

01:00:44.620 guy just loves tearing people apart, really, you know, we're trying to create something

01:00:51.540 where they can provide a platform for a lot of people to show what they do.

01:00:59.260 So, yeah.

01:01:00.540 So, it would be a place where you could make other people's kind of dreams come true, like

01:01:05.460 with film, television, that sort of thing.

01:01:07.100 Right, right.

01:01:07.380 Where you can just basically have a great script and a great cast and leave your troubles at

01:01:17.580 the door and walk out with the movie in the can.

01:01:23.100 You know what I mean?

01:01:24.000 Like, that's what time it is.

01:01:25.260 Oh, I like that.

01:01:25.880 I like that.

01:01:26.480 Doing things yourself.

01:01:28.120 Yeah.

01:01:28.640 Yeah.

01:01:28.840 Yeah, because they'll let the comedy movie industry die if we allow it.

01:01:38.560 You know what I mean?

01:01:39.340 And nobody in the fan base ever said, hey, we don't want any more funny movies.

01:01:44.400 Yeah.

01:01:45.040 Nobody said that.

01:01:46.920 None of the fans ever were like, hey, we're tired of laughing in the movies.

01:01:51.820 Yeah, boo to the cop.

01:01:53.180 No one ever said that.

01:01:55.100 They just decided, you know, we make more money in the superhero action department.

01:02:02.700 Let's just do all those.

01:02:04.760 You know what I mean?

01:02:05.600 And so, it'll just take for somebody in the comedy sphere to start producing funny shit.

01:02:15.620 And there we go again.

01:02:17.100 Do you already have projects kind of on tap?

01:02:19.540 Yeah, we got a slate.

01:02:22.700 Well, I'm not allowed to really answer that question.

01:02:26.760 But yeah, like, it's a great location where it is.

01:02:33.740 You know, like, it's an hour and a half from Atlanta or less.

01:02:38.500 It's 45 minutes from Birmingham, you know.

01:02:41.980 And I love that area.

01:02:46.200 And they're so thirsty to be involved, you know, that we have equal thirst.

01:02:53.620 So, everybody wants it to work.

01:02:56.120 And so, it will.

01:02:57.660 Amen.

01:02:58.840 Dude, that's exciting, huh?

01:03:00.160 It is.

01:03:01.340 It is.

01:03:02.080 Will you have kind of your hand in on most of the projects kind of?

01:03:05.000 Like, is that a weird question?

01:03:08.980 That's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of not necessary for how, for how it's set up.

01:03:20.100 It's set up in much of the way the grocery store is set up.

01:03:24.640 So, my job is just to make sure that all of the food that we sell in this grocery store belongs in this grocery store.

01:03:34.960 You see what I'm saying?

01:03:35.880 Is it a good quality?

01:03:37.460 Oh, we'll get it in there.

01:03:38.620 The people will want to see that.

01:03:40.500 Yeah, they'd love that.

01:03:41.520 Yeah, the cherry plums.

01:03:42.720 Yeah, they'd love that, you know.

01:03:44.100 And once that is, once that barrier is crossed, then we're just trying to make the best project for you and to make your smaller budget be able to compete with the larger budgets.

01:04:05.020 Yeah, because comedy don't need the really big budget either.

01:04:08.060 It just needs to be funny.

01:04:09.400 Yeah.

01:04:10.220 It needs to be funny.

01:04:10.980 But it also, it also can't be under budgeted though.

01:04:15.580 See, it can't.

01:04:16.840 It's got to be professional.

01:04:17.800 Yeah.

01:04:18.340 It cannot look cheap regardless, which means it can be, you know.

01:04:25.080 And that goes to the equipment and to the lighting.

01:04:27.360 And that's why you need hundreds of acres of space to be able to have all of what we're having.

01:04:37.080 Like, they're building an amphitheater and, you know, we have sound stages and a whole auditorium and, you know.

01:04:46.000 Hell yeah.

01:04:47.080 Yeah, it's pretty nice.

01:04:49.760 Instead of seeing if you have the cards, that's owning the deck, really, you know.

01:04:54.780 Like, instead of waiting to get dealt the cards, that's like saying we're going to have, we're going to, it's just saying you're going to have, you're going to make sure that things can happen.

01:05:04.280 It's like you having a podcast.

01:05:06.020 It's like it's almost a no-brainer.

01:05:07.880 Like, it makes sense, you know.

01:05:09.920 Yeah.

01:05:10.060 It's something you know you can pull off.

01:05:12.720 It's something that you know you're invested in.

01:05:15.460 It's something you know you do well, you know.

01:05:18.000 And so, yeah, it's that part.

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01:08:09.580 Happy Valentine's Day.

01:08:13.280 What, um, are you married or not, Kat?

01:08:18.760 Um, I have wives, but no.

01:08:25.760 Yeah.

01:08:26.000 Yeah.

01:08:30.160 Yeah.

01:08:33.120 Yeah.

01:08:33.860 I'm a happy, happy man.

01:08:37.620 Yeah.

01:08:38.020 Sometimes I thought, I've been thinking a lot about getting married, but I don't know if sometimes it's like an outside pressure that I feel or if it's just like something I would like to have that family, you know?

01:08:46.080 Like that, you know, I think you always have like an idea of what a family is, you know?

01:08:52.100 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:52.660 Sometimes I feel like that's something I want to try to make happen, you know?

01:08:59.020 It seemed like it would be a real challenge.

01:09:00.720 I wasn't scared of marriage, but I was scared of divorce.

01:09:05.880 Like, my parents didn't get divorced.

01:09:10.600 My parents are still together.

01:09:12.920 Oh, wow.

01:09:13.220 Like, so I never, I always felt like you only do this one time, you know?

01:09:20.560 And I was always more happy of the bullets I had dodged and the people that, wow, I thought I, I could have, I would have married her.

01:09:30.400 Like, I was ready to, you know what I mean?

01:09:33.440 Yeah.

01:09:33.880 And then you'll see them years later and you're like, oh.

01:09:35.860 Right.

01:09:35.980 You're like, oh, my God.

01:09:37.680 So, yeah, happiness is what I'm after, not titles or idealistic situations.

01:09:49.240 Like, I just want to provide happiness and be provided that as well.

01:09:56.740 And if you can get that situation, regardless of what it's called, that's going to be nice.

01:10:03.060 Yeah, maybe I get too stuck on the, yeah, maybe I sometimes do get too, like,

01:10:06.520 feeling like I have to fill in the blanks as opposed to what do I really want to create, you know?

01:10:15.680 Like, or being like, well, what if I didn't get married?

01:10:18.020 What would people think, you know?

01:10:19.140 Sometimes I'll get that stuck in my head, you know?

01:10:22.960 Yeah.

01:10:23.560 I guess it's normal, but.

01:10:25.400 Yeah, like, I.

01:10:30.480 Yeah, like, I don't.

01:10:32.060 I would hate to be put in a situation where I have to cheat on somebody, you know what I mean?

01:10:39.320 And I kind of feel like, what was the point?

01:10:43.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:43.720 I don't want to set myself up or.

01:10:45.800 That's a good point, too.

01:10:46.940 I don't want to set myself up for a situation that would be uncomfortable for me or I would hurt somebody else's feelings either.

01:10:52.700 Right.

01:10:52.900 Yeah, that's something I would not enjoy.

01:10:56.640 But remember, in your next life, you know, you got a black woman coming, so things are going to change.

01:11:05.000 Oh, Lordy.

01:11:06.400 Things are going to change.

01:11:08.700 It's going to be something.

01:11:10.040 It's going to be something.

01:11:11.300 God.

01:11:12.540 Right.

01:11:14.300 Yeah, I'm going to.

01:11:15.120 Have you experienced a black woman?

01:11:16.820 Um, yeah, pretty much.

01:11:23.520 I mean, I haven't dated just a black lady.

01:11:25.380 She wasn't.

01:11:25.980 She wasn't our best representative.

01:11:27.980 No, no.

01:11:29.340 I mean, there's a cute black lady that I met at the airport that I would, that if I see her again, I would, I would, I think I would try to ask her out, but I haven't seen her again.

01:11:36.480 But, but I would be open to dating a cool, cool black lady.

01:11:40.560 Hold on.

01:11:40.900 You know?

01:11:41.160 Hold on.

01:11:41.540 Let's talk specifically.

01:11:42.980 Okay.

01:11:43.260 About this one you're talking about.

01:11:44.940 Yeah, she just looked like really confident and nice smile and pretty eyes.

01:11:53.460 And I was like, man, there's just something about her.

01:11:55.960 Okay.

01:11:56.520 All right.

01:11:57.080 And she was where?

01:11:58.300 That I admired.

01:11:59.080 She was working at the airport.

01:12:00.360 Working at the airport.

01:12:01.720 That's.

01:12:02.280 So she was a worker.

01:12:03.120 She liked to work.

01:12:03.820 She doesn't mind working.

01:12:04.940 Hey, hey, they're beautiful.

01:12:07.440 Which airport was this?

01:12:08.780 This was at LAX.

01:12:09.880 You bet it was.

01:12:11.140 Yeah.

01:12:11.360 So she was TSA approved too, you know?

01:12:16.040 So.

01:12:16.140 Right.

01:12:16.860 Right.

01:12:17.600 So yeah, if I see her again, I would try to.

01:12:19.680 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:12:22.060 We're seeing her again.

01:12:23.240 Okay.

01:12:23.860 We're seeing her again.

01:12:24.960 Because you have this feeling already.

01:12:28.000 You're only saying it like, well, you never know.

01:12:30.920 I might not see.

01:12:31.680 You're going to see her again.

01:12:33.740 Absolutely.

01:12:34.540 Because we, yeah, you're going to ask her out.

01:12:36.640 Beautiful, fantastic.

01:12:39.880 Oh, she might.

01:12:42.180 No, she's not watching.

01:12:43.740 She might be watching.

01:12:45.060 I don't know.

01:12:46.200 She might be watching.

01:12:47.120 Do you do that?

01:12:47.800 You put things like into, do you like do that, like speak things into existence type of thing?

01:12:52.520 I'm not powerful enough to do that, but I don't ignore things that I see in existence.

01:13:05.120 So what I'm saying is, I'm not going to ignore the fact that you're not saying abstract, you know, if I saw a black woman that did something for me, I'd ask her out.

01:13:19.640 No, no, you actively saw one.

01:13:22.420 Yeah.

01:13:22.920 Yeah, and this is recent.

01:13:24.520 Yeah.

01:13:24.760 Right.

01:13:25.860 Yeah.

01:13:26.700 And it's going to be life changing.

01:13:32.340 Yeah?

01:13:32.940 Yeah.

01:13:34.380 Are black women a lot different, do you think?

01:13:38.660 Yes.

01:13:39.920 Yes.

01:13:40.660 Like, yes.

01:13:42.240 Like, you know black guys, right?

01:13:45.600 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:47.000 Black women are nothing like black guys.

01:13:50.640 Like, I don't want to put so much pressure on this lady at the airport, but she doesn't know we've had this conversation.

01:14:03.780 No.

01:14:04.060 No, she doesn't.

01:14:06.160 Magnificent creatures.

01:14:08.080 Okay.

01:14:10.420 In slavery, black women were appreciated.

01:14:15.400 You don't understand how difficult that is.

01:14:20.160 Yeah.

01:14:20.800 That's some hard shit to pull off.

01:14:22.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:25.360 I hate you guys, but not all of you.

01:14:29.500 Some of you are wonderful, precious beings.

01:14:36.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, black women are almost unreal.

01:14:43.860 And only because what it is that they possess, they don't, it's not on purpose.

01:14:53.960 Like, you know how we feel about people on the spectrum?

01:14:56.960 Like...

01:14:57.380 Oh, yeah.

01:14:58.500 They're magic.

01:15:00.160 Right.

01:15:00.920 The reverence that you and I have for that community, right?

01:15:05.540 Mm-hmm.

01:15:05.800 You're going to feel that with black women.

01:15:09.080 Wow.

01:15:09.640 Like, they're really where the word nurture comes from.

01:15:16.400 You know what I mean?

01:15:17.300 Like, the ability to give you something as a man that you never had before or felt before

01:15:28.200 and make it comfortable for you to access that, like, no.

01:15:32.640 Really?

01:15:33.360 Yeah.

01:15:33.700 Really life-changing.

01:15:34.560 Yeah, man, because I, yeah.

01:15:39.120 Yeah, this could be part of my 2025, man.

01:15:42.980 It is.

01:15:43.640 It clearly is.

01:15:44.600 Right.

01:15:45.080 Right.

01:15:45.380 Right.

01:15:45.740 We've said it.

01:15:46.340 Here we are.

01:15:47.200 We've said it.

01:15:47.980 Yeah.

01:15:48.660 Yeah.

01:15:49.360 You had a lot of, last year, it seemed like you had a lot of predictions last year.

01:15:52.940 You kind of became this oracle last year.

01:15:56.900 Did you feel that?

01:15:58.960 That people came to you, they almost became kind of like this, like a little bit of like a crystal

01:16:04.280 ball, you know?

01:16:09.020 I'm honored to get to say the things that I say when I'm saying them.

01:16:17.600 And because you know that I operate from a positive first standpoint in all things, like, I assume that it's going to work out for the best.

01:16:33.520 And I understand that if it is for the worst, then I'm prepared to handle that as well.

01:16:43.280 But, yeah, it was something.

01:16:47.520 Did you start to worry any about your own safety and stuff?

01:16:52.120 Because it seemed like you really had some moments where you're kind of, you know, almost channeling truths into the world.

01:17:03.400 And some people don't like that.

01:17:10.540 You know, some people don't want to, I mean, the dark side of things doesn't really probably enjoy that.

01:17:16.640 Well, what it was that I was attempting to do was impossible.

01:17:20.640 So before I do this interview, there is no Illuminati.

01:17:26.780 It's just a joke.

01:17:28.700 It's just something that crazy people talk about.

01:17:31.920 There's no such thing as our side and God's side.

01:17:35.480 None of that is even real.

01:17:37.780 I got to come and make it real.

01:17:40.220 I have to come and say, no, no, no, no.

01:17:43.820 Everybody's not the same.

01:17:45.240 So that's why when I said that, nobody came out and went, that's not true.

01:17:51.820 I'm on God's side.

01:17:53.920 Like, none of them.

01:17:55.640 I'm just, the conversation was to show that there are spiritual things going on in the world.

01:18:04.340 And that there are things that are bigger than just coincidence.

01:18:10.260 And that a ritual is something that you do over and over and over again a certain way.

01:18:19.540 You see what I'm saying?

01:18:20.780 If part of the ritual is wearing a dress, then we should be able to look through entertainment and see all of these people being made to wear a dress.

01:18:33.740 That's what a ritual is.

01:18:35.800 You know what I mean?

01:18:36.360 Like, whether they're white or black, that doesn't matter.

01:18:42.120 There's not other jobs where this is a requirement.

01:18:46.440 Why is this so necessary?

01:18:51.480 Yeah, you don't see the dog catcher show up every other year.

01:18:56.480 I guess not a thing.

01:18:57.620 In a nice skirt.

01:18:58.560 You don't see an electrician come up in a blouse every now and then.

01:19:03.080 Right.

01:19:04.700 I'm saying a lot of people that doubt what you say don't read and they haven't been readers.

01:19:12.500 You know what I mean?

01:19:13.240 Like, books were my life, literally.

01:19:16.360 I thought that I could learn enough information to be an important person.

01:19:24.460 You know what I mean?

01:19:25.180 So, I'm actively trying to eat information.

01:19:33.200 Like, do you have a favorite book?

01:19:37.560 No.

01:19:39.780 No, no, no.

01:19:40.760 Like, even when I said how many books I read, like, people are thinking maybe I'm reading 900 pages.

01:19:49.700 No, no, no.

01:19:50.160 I'm reading 150, 200-page books.

01:19:53.120 And I'm reading as many of them as I can because I'm trying to earn these pizza parties and these other weekly reader things that exist.

01:20:05.660 My parents don't even celebrate holidays.

01:20:09.000 I got to get my own gifts, bitch.

01:20:11.340 I'm fitting to read myself into the mansion.

01:20:14.120 Into a T-shirt and a personal paying pizza.

01:20:16.620 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:17.160 Right.

01:20:17.880 So, I got those books and then I got the ones I'm trying to learn from.

01:20:23.320 Yeah.

01:20:23.680 You know?

01:20:24.200 Yeah.

01:20:24.440 And those are separate.

01:20:27.280 What was your question?

01:20:28.260 Do you have a first book that you remember reading?

01:20:30.780 Like, or one that got read to you when you were a kid or something that you really liked?

01:20:33.460 Like, a book that set it off for you that was like, oh.

01:20:38.740 I read the Bible first.

01:20:43.680 That's 66 books.

01:20:45.440 So, yeah.

01:20:50.300 It kind of was my starting point in book reading.

01:20:56.980 But it's not set up like a book technically.

01:21:01.900 It's very disjointed.

01:21:03.720 Oh, yeah.

01:21:04.260 So, I found that everything else I read was an easy read.

01:21:09.660 You know what I mean?

01:21:10.520 Like, I loved reading all of the classics because I felt like I was literally in this story.

01:21:21.280 You know what I mean?

01:21:22.140 And I could read multiple books at once.

01:21:26.400 And, you know, I was completely enthralled with reading.

01:21:32.500 Oh, yeah.

01:21:35.320 Yeah, just the idea of being able to take myself into a different place, you know?

01:21:38.880 It was like, and it really, I mean, words would really just fuel for your imagination.

01:21:43.980 It's like, that's how you would get your head going, you know?

01:21:47.360 Right.

01:21:47.880 But I didn't want to use my imagination.

01:21:52.220 I wanted this imagination.

01:21:54.840 You see what I'm saying?

01:21:55.120 Oh, you wanted the information.

01:21:56.200 I wanted to know what Huckleberry Finn, and I wanted to know what they were doing.

01:22:04.060 Like, you know what I mean?

01:22:05.140 Like, I wanted the adventures.

01:22:07.500 You know what I mean?

01:22:08.180 Like, I was reading everything.

01:22:10.660 Nancy Drew, Mysteries.

01:22:12.740 Like, anything I could get my hands on.

01:22:17.080 The Hardy Boys.

01:22:18.320 Like, I'm reading that.

01:22:21.800 And, yeah.

01:22:26.360 So many different stories that you get, you start understanding what it takes to, for someone to be a winner in life, you know?

01:22:42.420 And you find out from reading thousands of books that if you can list the fucked up things that have happened in your life, and you can put that on a list, and you somehow made it past all of this to be in a position where you can still go make some stuff happen.

01:23:06.500 And then, that's what you have in common with every hero of every story, of every autobiography, of every, is that.

01:23:18.620 Yeah.

01:23:18.840 Is how much happened to you that should have broke you, that did not break you, so that you were able to then fucking ride.

01:23:30.400 Amen.

01:23:30.720 Amen.

01:23:31.180 Amen.

01:23:31.540 Amen.

01:23:33.300 Did y'all, um, yeah, I'm trying to think of some of my favorite books when I was a kid.

01:23:38.820 I don't even remember.

01:23:40.800 When I was young.

01:23:44.760 Where the Red Fern Grow.

01:23:46.180 We had to read all kind of shit.

01:23:47.560 They had one book that kept killing this dog in it.

01:23:50.060 I felt so bad for him.

01:23:51.920 How many times can you kill a dog?

01:23:53.780 I mean, they kept, that thing was fucking really dead.

01:23:57.820 I don't remember that.

01:23:58.840 I don't know who wrote that bitch, but I think Stephen King wrote it.

01:24:02.900 But that bitch was dead, bro.

01:24:04.940 After the second chapter, I said, this bitch is dead.

01:24:07.380 I think I only, I think I only read one book he ever did because, like, because I couldn't, I couldn't read his books without going, hey, dude, whoever writes like this is a demon.

01:24:21.640 And, like, and then he always had his picture on the back, and he looked scary, like, oh, uh-uh.

01:24:29.720 Yeah.

01:24:30.080 Yeah, he looked like he owned a bunch of ravens or something.

01:24:32.680 That dude, yeah, everybody, he had one book that, and the animals was kept being alive and dead.

01:24:37.600 Edgar Allen Poe was a favorite of mine.

01:24:39.900 He was a gangster, too.

01:24:41.780 He had a lot of women, too.

01:24:43.260 Bring up some of his ladies he had, Edgar Allen Poe's girlfriend.

01:24:48.740 He had a flock at the, and, you know,

01:24:51.220 I think he used to live in Virginia.

01:24:53.360 You know that?

01:24:55.240 Edgar Allen Poe, click on a couple of his dimes he had.

01:25:01.400 Look at these broads right here.

01:25:03.800 Yeah.

01:25:06.260 Just click on one of them.

01:25:07.560 Damn.

01:25:09.280 Edgar Allen Poe's bitches.

01:25:10.220 Right there, baby.

01:25:12.040 You tell him, oh.

01:25:14.960 Shorty won a thug.

01:25:15.800 He was a clear pedophile.

01:25:17.920 Come on, man.

01:25:18.900 He was a clear pedophile.

01:25:21.220 She looks nine.

01:25:24.280 Hey, brother.

01:25:25.440 And it says, she died when she was 24.

01:25:30.780 She had tuberculosis, boy, but before that.

01:25:32.920 That's how he liked them.

01:25:34.300 Yeah, that's how he liked them, boy.

01:25:38.080 Oh, shit.

01:25:39.040 Now, she's cute.

01:25:40.340 No, come on now.

01:25:41.760 Right there, princess, baby.

01:25:43.640 That was foster mother.

01:25:44.740 That was foster mother, whatever.

01:25:46.580 Damn, bro, why are you fucking helping me out?

01:25:48.640 Oh, fire.

01:25:50.940 These were supposed to be his hosts.

01:25:52.860 This is his family members.

01:25:55.520 Whatever.

01:25:56.340 Oh, yeah.

01:25:57.600 Our research department.

01:25:58.620 Now, what about right there?

01:25:59.640 Virginia Clem, baby.

01:26:01.660 Right.

01:26:02.140 That's a girlfriend.

01:26:03.700 Right.

01:26:03.960 And that was the, I'm saying, even today, that's heavy filters.

01:26:14.380 Yeah.

01:26:16.620 That was her looking good at any age right there.

01:26:19.780 That particular pose.

01:26:21.880 Okay, I admit.

01:26:22.880 You had to be a virgin to show that much next.

01:26:25.900 She was like, no one has ever.

01:26:28.980 Yeah.

01:26:29.500 Pretty good.

01:26:31.040 But what about her, though?

01:26:32.480 Oh, wow.

01:26:33.580 Let me see.

01:26:34.080 Sarah Helen Whitman, a professional writer who met Edgar through the literary circles in New York.

01:26:39.600 Vellatio.

01:26:40.440 Yeah.

01:26:41.660 Otherworldly.

01:26:44.100 That's the original hawk to it.

01:26:46.660 Sarah Helen Whitman.

01:26:48.280 She'll get those curls going.

01:26:53.720 Oh, you're going to love it.

01:26:55.500 Bounce, bounce, bounce.

01:26:56.780 Milk it, Sarah.

01:26:57.620 Milk it.

01:27:00.200 She'll slurp you back to Saturn right there, man.

01:27:03.140 And then just a, wait a minute.

01:27:05.680 Why does Zuckerberg come?

01:27:07.040 Are they, oh, jeez.

01:27:09.000 I don't know why they brought him up.

01:27:09.940 You think you have genius here.

01:27:11.560 Oh, we have the new hair.

01:27:12.320 Yeah, he has the new hair.

01:27:14.780 Sarah Helen Zuckerberg.

01:27:15.060 What do you think about a lot of these social media sites?

01:27:18.100 It's control in how people communicate.

01:27:21.040 What do you think about that, man?

01:27:23.620 You fear that kind of stuff?

01:27:31.680 If it exists, it will be controlled and regulated.

01:27:36.340 That's just a fact.

01:27:40.660 Whatever it is, that's the game.

01:27:43.380 The game is to how quick can we get this new thing controlled and regulated, right?

01:27:49.480 And we are counting on them to provide this platform that we use to communicate on, right?

01:27:57.880 So, you know.

01:27:59.160 So it's a trade-off?

01:28:00.060 Always has been.

01:28:03.720 I'm saying the, if we understood that the internet itself is a government function, then how much privacy would you expect?

01:28:19.340 Right.

01:28:20.420 Right.

01:28:21.060 At that point, we're almost the fools for pretending that we would still have it, privacy.

01:28:28.020 Yeah.

01:28:28.880 Right.

01:28:29.320 I'm saying.

01:28:30.660 Do you feel like in Hollywood that there are, you know, I've heard you kind of allude to the fact that there's like kind of darker forces that kind of like, you know, that present opportunities to people in trade-off, right?

01:28:49.660 In trade for their own, maybe their own peace, maybe their own reality, maybe a sacrifice of their actual direction that they want.

01:29:00.100 Do you think that really happens, that kind of stuff?

01:29:01.900 I think everything is controlled and regulated.

01:29:19.960 Mm-hmm.

01:29:21.980 You think there's ever ways where we can get to the control room and see who's controlling, or do you think that's all?

01:29:29.840 We're past that.

01:29:31.900 We're past that.

01:29:34.520 But we don't protect the whistleblower, right?

01:29:51.840 We don't honor the scout that would tell us who it is.

01:30:00.280 Matter of fact, when they get them, we're going to go, oh, I could have told you that was going to happen.

01:30:06.440 They're telling too much truth.

01:30:07.940 Do you think Hollywood has a lot of things that they like hold against people, you know?

01:30:12.240 Like I had a theory that a lot of this is human nature.

01:30:15.840 Right.

01:30:16.020 So it's not even Hollywood.

01:30:16.740 It's just human nature.

01:30:18.120 It starts as human nature.

01:30:20.280 Right.

01:30:20.580 Like I'm saying these things that I'm saying in Hollywood exist in religious circles, in politics, in the medical profession, and like, yeah.

01:30:37.720 In any circle of business, really.

01:30:40.840 Yeah.

01:30:44.140 They had a big bust with Puff Diddy where he got arrested.

01:30:47.620 And then they've had like accusations and stuff.

01:30:51.020 He hasn't gone on trial, I don't think yet.

01:30:52.680 But do you think that they, there's been speculation that they did that because they, the timing of that was they wanted to, like, use other people that have allegedly been involved in some of his circles to, they wanted to kind of use, like, okay, you could be next unless you help this political plan.

01:31:18.920 Do you think that's at all possible?

01:31:22.600 That's how all cases are handled.

01:31:24.800 Yeah.

01:31:25.360 Right?

01:31:26.900 So what am I saying?

01:31:28.360 I'm saying if it's car theft and we're going to accuse you of having a carjacking ring, right, we're going to begin by bringing in people that we caught who were robbing cars, who said that you was the boss.

01:31:48.920 They're first in line.

01:31:51.200 And then we're going to bring in victims, the people whose cars you stole and said, yeah, that was him.

01:31:58.420 That's how they build a case.

01:32:01.080 So none of that should be shocking.

01:32:05.240 You don't put it past them.

01:32:10.920 It's part of what an investigation is.

01:32:15.880 But do you feel like they would say to someone, okay, we're going to bring you in unless.

01:32:21.460 Absolutely.

01:32:22.140 That's what they do.

01:32:23.260 Yeah.

01:32:23.420 Even, like, in the rap world, like, all of the rappers that you know that never been to jail and never got in any trouble with the law, but they talk as if their life is opposite of that.

01:32:41.560 Like, those are federal informants.

01:32:43.920 Like, you know.

01:32:44.580 You think they're really out there?

01:32:47.520 Yeah.

01:32:48.000 That's part of the job is to acquire those.

01:32:55.180 It's like saying, you know, if you're playing chess, do you have any pawns?

01:33:00.640 You have to, don't you?

01:33:02.960 Yeah.

01:33:03.320 You can't start without them.

01:33:05.020 Right.

01:33:05.760 Right.

01:33:06.280 Wow.

01:33:07.240 Right.

01:33:09.300 Man, so how do you know who is?

01:33:12.220 That's part of the game, huh?

01:33:14.260 You don't know.

01:33:14.960 It's part of the game.

01:33:21.200 Yeah, it kind of makes it exciting, too, when you think about it.

01:33:24.360 It can be exciting and depressing.

01:33:28.300 Mm-hmm.

01:33:29.880 Did you ever do a rap album?

01:33:34.380 Yep.

01:33:35.360 You did?

01:33:35.880 Several.

01:33:36.820 I didn't know that.

01:33:37.620 I'm sorry, man.

01:33:38.100 I didn't research that.

01:33:40.260 No problem.

01:33:40.960 I didn't put them out.

01:33:42.040 Oh.

01:33:42.280 Okay.

01:33:43.640 Let me go.

01:33:44.960 You asked me, did I do them?

01:33:47.260 Oh, yeah.

01:33:48.260 Yeah.

01:33:49.120 Did you have some collabs on them with anybody?

01:33:52.760 Did you have somebody help you produce some stuff?

01:33:55.820 Master P, maybe anything like that?

01:33:59.140 Well, I'm sure he would be honored that of all people, you name dropped him.

01:34:05.560 I'm just thinking of somebody from Louisiana.

01:34:07.740 Right.

01:34:09.480 What a blessing.

01:34:10.400 When I was in college, he used to, they had, it was like Master P, it was like Silk, the

01:34:17.680 Shocker, like that whole cabal was really, really vibing, right?

01:34:20.800 Yes.

01:34:21.260 So they used to have, they would all come to LSU and play at the basketball courts.

01:34:25.500 And they would have these guys who would stand on the side and hold their clothes, and they

01:34:30.160 were dressed like kind of Native Americans, like almost like black Indians kind of.

01:34:34.100 And some of them would have on like little headdresses and stuff, and they would have

01:34:37.220 them all holding their clothes and shoes on the side of the court.

01:34:40.580 It was a vibe, man.

01:34:41.540 Yeah, all through that period of time, that whole no limit empire was really, really magnificent

01:34:55.060 to the fan base.

01:34:56.600 Like they really went to places where people wanted to see them and delivered a show like

01:35:05.420 we weren't used to, because there was so many acts.

01:35:09.800 Yeah, they had a lot of the whole group.

01:35:11.460 You know what I mean?

01:35:12.240 Like there was, they all came together and like put on a show that was just unbelievable

01:35:20.780 in all venues.

01:35:22.620 It was extraordinary to watch.

01:35:26.920 Did you ever tour with a rap?

01:35:30.400 Did you ever, because sometimes you'll have like musicians and rappers, or musicians and

01:35:34.680 comedians tour together?

01:35:36.660 Yeah.

01:35:37.300 You have?

01:35:38.760 Mm-hmm.

01:35:39.220 I just didn't know some people like that, some people don't.

01:35:41.260 Yeah, I have Lil Mo on, has been on our tour probably for the last three or four years,

01:35:50.100 and the Lady of Rage as well comes out.

01:35:55.620 Music is a wonderful partner to comedy, you know?

01:35:59.880 And we try to use that music and comedy are interspersed in my life, so it's always a part of my set.

01:36:10.760 And yeah, I'm a huge music fan.

01:36:16.800 Are you an instrumentalist?

01:36:18.340 You play anything?

01:36:19.140 No, no.

01:36:20.440 No, I play nothing, and I cannot sing.

01:36:23.120 Can't sing, can't play anything, which makes me one of the greatest music listeners, you know what I mean?

01:36:31.580 Yeah.

01:36:31.860 Like, that's what I, and I like immerse myself, you know?

01:36:36.840 Like, there's, there's like albums that represent like whole periods of my life, you know what I mean?

01:36:45.100 Like, the album Counting Crows, August and everything after.

01:36:53.760 Oh, yeah, everything after.

01:36:55.340 Down up in New Amsterdam.

01:36:58.920 Like, I know every song, every beat, every word, like, because where I was at the time, and then Pearl Jam's.

01:37:10.520 Yeah.

01:37:11.720 10.

01:37:12.300 At home, drum pick yours.

01:37:15.440 Up Mountain Tops.

01:37:17.040 Yeah.

01:37:17.540 With him on top.

01:37:19.880 Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:37:21.820 Because I was listening to stuff that it made me feel like, like, they're really singing about me.

01:37:28.200 Oh, yeah.

01:37:28.520 Like.

01:37:29.380 How I think or feel some moment.

01:37:31.600 All of it.

01:37:32.580 Like, yeah.

01:37:35.080 Remember Shy?

01:37:35.960 Remember that group came out?

01:37:37.420 And if I ever fall.

01:37:41.280 Remember them?

01:37:41.800 I can't sing either.

01:37:42.440 I do.

01:37:42.860 You did pretty good.

01:37:43.780 Thank you, bro.

01:37:44.580 Appreciate that.

01:37:45.000 They would be proud.

01:37:46.260 They were good, bro.

01:37:48.020 They were.

01:37:48.700 They were good.

01:37:49.400 But that was a great time for music.

01:37:51.520 It was.

01:37:52.020 Of all genres.

01:37:53.300 You know what I mean?

01:37:54.220 Like, good music was just good music.

01:37:57.000 Yeah.

01:37:58.080 Yeah.

01:37:59.180 Yeah, I remember one of the, I'm trying to think of one of the first.

01:38:01.440 Oh, I went to a.

01:38:02.060 Shy.

01:38:03.540 Green day.

01:38:04.200 You're going to make a great black guy.

01:38:06.360 Oh, yeah.

01:38:06.960 And they had Tevin Campbell.

01:38:07.920 Remember him?

01:38:08.420 Can we talk?

01:38:10.500 Right.

01:38:11.340 For a minute.

01:38:12.720 Tevin Campbell.

01:38:13.760 Girl, I want to know your name.

01:38:19.840 I'm like, well, fucking just go talk to her then.

01:38:22.560 Damn, bro.

01:38:23.180 You fucking.

01:38:23.720 No.

01:38:24.320 Like, tell the truth.

01:38:25.840 When we saw him and we heard the song, we were like, are you sure you want to talk to her?

01:38:32.100 Yeah.

01:38:34.540 No wonder you're so trepidious.

01:38:36.760 That is true.

01:38:44.440 That's true.

01:38:45.200 That's true.

01:38:45.740 That's true.

01:38:46.320 He really had a different.

01:38:49.560 Right.

01:38:50.160 The sequel to that song was a surprise.

01:38:53.180 We'll just say like that, man, the sequel was a surprise.

01:38:57.700 That was a good time, though.

01:38:59.900 Right.

01:39:00.260 That was a good time.

01:39:01.240 It was a good time.

01:39:02.540 When was that?

01:39:03.940 That was late 90s, I think.

01:39:05.380 Did you ever get to meet Michael Jackson before?

01:39:10.960 No, I got to meet Prince.

01:39:12.600 You did?

01:39:13.340 Yeah.

01:39:13.660 Did you ever get to go bike riding with him or anything like that?

01:39:15.960 Who's that?

01:39:16.800 Prince.

01:39:20.720 I think bike riding may have been the only thing we'd.

01:39:25.520 Yeah, no, no, I don't.

01:39:27.000 He wasn't doing bike riding.

01:39:31.360 He had had an experience.

01:39:33.340 Let's see.

01:39:34.440 So when I meet him, I'm 12.

01:39:36.660 I guess he's 18, 19.

01:39:39.800 Oh, you met him when you were 12?

01:39:41.500 Yeah, I knew him.

01:39:42.460 I knew him my whole, I'm saying from 12 till he left.

01:39:50.320 That was, I knew him the whole time.

01:39:53.060 Like, yeah, he was a magnificent, one-of-a-kind individual.

01:39:59.540 Like, I got to, he lived different lives.

01:40:09.880 Like, he wasn't where we are and we're talking about how we need to, you know, reinvent.

01:40:16.440 And he was, like, the master at that, you know what I mean?

01:40:22.620 Like, he was only going to be this version of himself for a very short amount of time until he had mastered it.

01:40:33.060 And then he was going to go to something else.

01:40:35.980 And he always had that energy, huh?

01:40:38.220 Yeah, from the, yeah, yeah, he was, yeah, but when I met him, he was already a millionaire.

01:40:46.940 And so I couldn't initially understand what kept driving him, you know, because it just seemed to me like he was never happy.

01:40:57.420 Because every time I would see him, he had achieved, like, 30 new things and had purchased, like, 100 new things.

01:41:08.300 And still yet, he was working like he didn't, you know?

01:41:14.120 Yeah.

01:41:14.520 And I probably was just not understanding what work ethic was, you know?

01:41:21.020 But, yeah, I learned a lot from that guy.

01:41:23.640 I met Shaq when I was 16.

01:41:27.420 Damn, where at, you think?

01:41:30.280 I know where.

01:41:31.500 In Orlando, his rookie year.

01:41:34.320 Yeah, because he played at LSU, man.

01:41:36.920 Yeah, great guy.

01:41:39.200 Great guy.

01:41:39.740 B-Shay.

01:41:40.820 Yeah, right.

01:41:42.400 Yeah.

01:41:45.640 Dude, if I was that big, I couldn't get my big ass out of bed at that size, man.

01:41:51.000 It'd be so hard.

01:41:51.880 You know, because some of us, it's kind of hard at even a regular size.

01:41:54.960 I don't believe that.

01:41:55.580 Dude, you know how hard it is to get a big old, look at it right there.

01:42:00.420 Oh, right.

01:42:01.500 It's so hard to get up when you're big.

01:42:04.260 Right.

01:42:04.860 I watched my aunt get up sometime, like, she ain't gonna get up.

01:42:09.800 You know what I'm talking about?

01:42:11.160 You ever see somebody, and you're like, she ain't gonna get up.

01:42:15.440 That's when.

01:42:16.280 And they figure it out.

01:42:18.240 When all of the places were catching on fire, that was my first thought, was like, nobody on my 600-pound life is gonna make it out of none of this.

01:42:32.620 It's like, what?

01:42:35.500 Yeah, that show's over, bro.

01:42:37.820 Like, there's a whole portion of the population that can't get up.

01:42:45.580 Everybody's like, evacuate.

01:42:48.500 Somebody just shit in the bed.

01:42:50.960 I did.

01:42:51.740 I did evacuate.

01:42:53.620 Oh, yeah.

01:42:56.560 They evacuated.

01:42:57.520 They just looked the other way.

01:42:58.780 That's their evacuating.

01:43:02.740 Just lean away from the warm.

01:43:09.480 Flip the pillow.

01:43:10.840 Yeah.

01:43:11.200 Did you, uh, what did you and Prince do?

01:43:15.580 Did y'all ever go out to eat or nothing?

01:43:16.800 Like, what did he like to do?

01:43:18.740 He, cause he's just.

01:43:19.480 No, no.

01:43:20.300 So, like, you know how some people have chefs?

01:43:26.760 Like, he was beyond that.

01:43:29.560 Like, he wanted, he wanted a chef to know what he was preparing.

01:43:42.000 Like, I don't know how to explain it, but, like, he wasn't vegan the whole time I knew him, you know?

01:43:52.100 He was just vegan for this portion.

01:43:54.400 And, and, but before that, he had a whole different thing, but he was, he would have an Italian chef to make Italian when that's what he was having.

01:44:04.620 And he, like, to the extreme.

01:44:08.800 He was extreme.

01:44:09.760 Yeah.

01:44:10.360 So, you know, you, you would get the most beautiful meals around this dude, cause he, he was a foodie.

01:44:19.020 So, you know.

01:44:19.940 Oh, damn.

01:44:20.260 I'd love to watch him eat a little, eat a little snack or something, a little creme brulee or a little big scoop of ice cream.

01:44:30.000 I'd love to see that.

01:44:31.120 Cause he was kind of smaller, wasn't he?

01:44:34.580 I'm five, I'm five, so it never really factored in.

01:44:39.940 Oh, you're bigger than him, I think.

01:44:41.680 Yeah.

01:44:42.320 But, but I'm saying I wasn't gazing at him while he was eating it.

01:44:46.600 Yeah.

01:44:47.000 Yeah, we always had enough women around for.

01:44:51.020 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:44:51.760 Yeah.

01:44:53.700 I wasn't there in a longing fashion.

01:44:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:01.360 Yeah, sorry.

01:45:02.340 Some of us like a, watch a small person, if they get up against a, like a real hard scoop of ice cream, they fucking can't handle that bitch, you know?

01:45:09.720 No, no, no.

01:45:11.300 I didn't get it.

01:45:14.180 Yeah.

01:45:14.700 Rewind that again.

01:45:15.660 Okay, sorry.

01:45:17.000 Somehow I missed that and I can't accept it.

01:45:20.100 No, no, I just, sometimes if somebody, you know, I know like if I get up, if it's a real cold scoop of ice cream and it's, it's hard to, you know, get with a spoon or something, I just imagine like a smaller guy battling that, uh, battling that bitch, bro.

01:45:33.660 I just, I can't.

01:45:38.440 Oh, shit.

01:45:39.360 I want you to acknowledge how funny.

01:45:40.920 I just want to envision in my head, Prince.

01:45:47.700 You just got two or three spoons going on that bitch, he gonna get in there.

01:45:51.580 He'd have whooped your ass in the air.

01:45:53.680 He probably would have, and blessings, man.

01:45:55.600 I'd have had to pull him off.

01:45:58.340 Man, he's a purple superhero and he is the king, man.

01:46:01.220 I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm just joking, Prince, if your spirit is here, I'm sure it is somewhere.

01:46:09.120 It is indeed, yeah, and he had a great sense of humor.

01:46:12.300 Oh, I saw him stop in.

01:46:13.540 I was in Minneapolis.

01:46:14.520 They used to have this place called, uh, and he got more pussy than you.

01:46:19.980 Did he?

01:46:21.380 Yeah.

01:46:21.780 Oh, yeah, of course he did.

01:46:22.600 What the fuck am I talking about there?

01:46:23.660 Yeah, it took me half a second to realize that.

01:46:25.360 But, uh, yeah, yeah, of course he did, Ron.

01:46:29.160 Damn, boy.

01:46:31.520 Yeah.

01:46:32.120 Well, no, they had a place, though, that he would go perform sometimes on a certain night.

01:46:36.300 It was in Minneapolis, and a lot of musicians would just show up, and one night he showed

01:46:39.640 up there, man, and it was amazing.

01:46:41.560 It was just random, random people would get together and play, but.

01:46:44.700 No, he loved that probably more than anything else.

01:46:49.500 Like, he loved that more than touring.

01:46:52.940 He loved that more than anything is jam sessions, and he, he had places all over the globe, and

01:47:03.680 he was welcomed at, I'm saying, you're talking about a guy that played 26 instruments.

01:47:09.580 Do you feel what I'm saying?

01:47:10.580 Like, we're talking about a guy that, like, most people, he, yeah.

01:47:21.060 Just magical, huh?

01:47:22.040 If you couldn't learn from what he did, then you just pass learning, you know what I mean?

01:47:29.860 Like, the shit resonates, uh, regardless of what it is you're trying to do.

01:47:35.660 Right.

01:47:36.040 And so, um, yeah, I was blessed to.

01:47:39.320 Even be around him, huh?

01:47:40.480 Yeah, yeah, just to, uh, be able to witness, um, a short, um, young black guy, um, navigate

01:47:55.200 the highest echelons of entertainment and still be, um, holding on to things that he doesn't

01:48:07.020 do and won't do and, um, still feeling like, um, he needs to look out for other musicians

01:48:16.000 and other artists and still, um, trying not to bring, uh, shame on his fans or other black

01:48:27.440 people or music lovers or, you know, just, uh, um, a wonderful human, you know, that's

01:48:39.460 what you can learn.

01:48:40.580 Shit.

01:48:41.060 Now I feel bad about making that joke, but I feel okay still.

01:48:43.720 I mean, I feel, it's okay.

01:48:45.180 Yeah.

01:48:45.540 I'm just joking.

01:48:46.160 Um, yeah, but did, um, when you were growing up, do you ever have like a TV, like a, like

01:48:57.140 a TV father kind of, you know, like I had, like, I'm trying to think of like, just trying

01:49:00.900 to think of like influences that you had when you were young.

01:49:02.900 Like I had like a little house on the prairie was a show I would watch that they had Michael

01:49:07.280 Landon was on it.

01:49:08.600 And then they had like in the heat of the night.

01:49:10.860 I really liked that show.

01:49:13.220 Um, now wait a minute.

01:49:16.160 I'm trying to, who was the father figure on in the heat of the night?

01:49:21.420 Oh, they had.

01:49:22.220 Was the black guy your father figure?

01:49:24.380 Who, Virgil Tibbs?

01:49:25.680 Virgil Tibbs.

01:49:26.760 Yeah, probably.

01:49:27.620 He was good.

01:49:28.620 I will tell you this.

01:49:29.840 I met his wife at a, uh, or not his wife, but, um.

01:49:33.060 The lady that played his wife?

01:49:33.980 Yes, that's her right there.

01:49:35.020 Virgil and Sophia was his wife in the show, I think.

01:49:37.920 She was way smaller than you thought, right?

01:49:40.520 She was very beautiful.

01:49:42.440 And I saw her at a breakfast place and I was like, I cannot go back in there and tell her.

01:49:46.500 And I did.

01:49:47.400 And it was, she, I think she kind of appreciated it, but it was still pretty awkward, I think.

01:49:51.320 But she's very beautiful.

01:49:53.320 But yeah, I liked him and Carol O'Connor was in it.

01:49:56.080 But, uh, in the heat, that was my heat.

01:50:00.640 Right.

01:50:01.400 That shit was good.

01:50:02.440 I loved that.

01:50:03.260 What else did I like?

01:50:04.840 I'm trying to think of a show where I had like a TV dad.

01:50:07.240 Did you have like a TV family or someone that you kind of liked?

01:50:09.900 Um, as a black man, um, I had a real father.

01:50:18.180 So, um, I wasn't looking at, um, TV for the images of a real good black father.

01:50:28.140 Cause I had one, you know what I mean?

01:50:29.940 So for me, it was, um, a little interesting just to see how, um, other fathers were portrayed,

01:50:44.800 you know?

01:50:45.260 And, um, I, I more enjoyed like seeing the dynamics of other families and how things went

01:50:55.440 for them because that's the only way that I knew, oh, I don't have that type of upbringing

01:51:02.180 at all.

01:51:03.160 Wow.

01:51:03.440 That's yeah.

01:51:05.500 Like, yeah.

01:51:05.960 I, I didn't, I didn't even know my mother was supposed to love me.

01:51:12.500 Like, I didn't know that.

01:51:14.920 Sorry to laugh, man.

01:51:16.340 But yeah.

01:51:17.500 She's never kissed me in my life.

01:51:20.080 I didn't, I didn't know she was supposed to like me.

01:51:23.440 Like, I'm saying she made sure I ate, but I had clean clothes.

01:51:31.100 But I'm saying I didn't.

01:51:33.080 I, you know, it would have been shocking if I, oh, my mom was always working.

01:51:38.740 I, I would be like, mom, tell me you love me.

01:51:40.660 And she'd be like, I got to move this box over here.

01:51:42.780 That's what she would be like.

01:51:46.640 I'm like, mom, how do you feel about me?

01:51:48.320 She's like, oh, we got to put all these boxes away.

01:51:50.660 She always had something to do, you know?

01:51:53.060 Like if a feeling came up, my mom just couldn't have it, you know?

01:51:56.260 No, I love you, mom.

01:51:57.420 I'm just, it's funny.

01:51:59.000 Now it's funny.

01:52:00.420 Right.

01:52:00.640 But now you can, yeah, that shit was ridiculous though.

01:52:07.640 I was like, mom, how do you feel about me?

01:52:09.320 She's like, we got to get this car to start.

01:52:11.140 I was like, what the fuck?

01:52:12.060 What are you talking about?

01:52:12.800 There's a vacuum.

01:52:18.060 Right.

01:52:20.580 Yeah, that was it.

01:52:21.560 That's what I think, that's what I always was looking for, for me.

01:52:25.480 But these are the things that guarantee success.

01:52:28.120 That's what I'm telling you.

01:52:29.180 Yeah.

01:52:29.620 It's part of what's on that list that, you know, you got certain things against you.

01:52:40.140 You're going to be successful.

01:52:42.160 Right.

01:52:42.900 Yeah.

01:52:44.340 Yeah.

01:52:44.840 You're going to be in a position where you can rectify things.

01:52:50.520 You know that you're way more appreciative of love because of that.

01:53:02.480 You're in a position where you can still be loved, you know, by the black lady at the airport.

01:53:10.660 Yeah.

01:53:10.920 2025.

01:53:13.040 My little layover lady.

01:53:16.440 That's what I'm calling my little layover.

01:53:19.340 I've seen you.

01:53:20.260 This is something that I thought.

01:53:22.640 There's only two things that I think that I've seen and I'm not sure.

01:53:25.280 One of them was that Santa Claus when I was a kid that they brought us outside and they had a real sleigh go by in the air.

01:53:31.240 It was an airplane that they disguised as a sleigh in our town.

01:53:33.780 The second one is I thought I saw you riding bikes down Sunset Boulevard.

01:53:39.160 Right.

01:53:39.580 So now the funniest part of all of that.

01:53:42.480 Is that a true story?

01:53:44.020 It's because all of your stories are true.

01:53:46.900 Right.

01:53:47.720 But the whole thing is when you're telling this story, we ride by on these bikes with lights on them.

01:53:57.640 Yeah.

01:53:58.040 Like from the future.

01:53:58.960 Circus members.

01:53:59.860 But really, really, this is a million and a half dollars worth of Can-Am Spiders.

01:54:08.680 Eight of them.

01:54:11.120 $200,000 apiece.

01:54:13.660 Me and Suge going down Sunset.

01:54:18.260 Oh, yeah.

01:54:19.120 I didn't see those, man.

01:54:20.440 I'm sorry.

01:54:22.480 I saw some bitches.

01:54:23.940 Somebody covered them bitches.

01:54:26.100 Cat Williams came by with a Shetland pony.

01:54:29.860 Hey, it had neon lights on the hooves.

01:54:32.580 Somebody spray painted silly string on the back of it.

01:54:35.600 You cast it up with a violin.

01:54:38.140 Start playing it.

01:54:40.540 Do you believe in life after life?

01:54:44.080 Yeah, I swear to God, I'm standing on the porch.

01:54:46.260 I look over there.

01:54:47.320 Right.

01:54:48.100 And you had done one of those things where you stand up but keep, you know what I'm saying,

01:54:51.720 it's just, you know, when you're riding down the street.

01:54:53.660 I'm 5'5", so I do that better than most.

01:54:58.600 And I said, damn, there he goes, bro.

01:55:01.640 Right.

01:55:02.080 And by the time I get anybody's attention, nobody believed me.

01:55:04.760 So that's why I think it had a lot of that same, like, when you saw Santa, you know, type of energy.

01:55:09.480 Right.

01:55:09.680 Well, understand, I didn't take away from the myth.

01:55:12.900 I just clarified.

01:55:14.000 Yeah.

01:55:15.080 No, good.

01:55:15.980 Because I thought I was crazy for thinking that.

01:55:18.400 Right.

01:55:19.680 What do you see happening in 2025, Cat?

01:55:22.240 This is where we get to where, like, what do you feel like?

01:55:28.740 What do you feel like are things we can look forward to, things we can stay conscious of?

01:55:33.180 Can I bump another cigarette by chance, man?

01:55:36.680 You got enough sure on you?

01:55:37.800 Absolutely.

01:55:38.660 Let's do it.

01:55:39.920 Yeah, so.

01:55:40.800 Let me get that bitch, get my lungs up.

01:55:43.500 We're already in 2025, aren't we?

01:55:46.040 Yeah.

01:55:47.200 Yeah.

01:55:47.920 So.

01:55:48.440 You right already.

01:55:50.200 Yeah.

01:55:50.680 See there?

01:55:51.580 So the whole thing is we're not, this thing does not happen in yearly cycles.

01:56:01.160 Like, it's not an every 12 months thing.

01:56:05.220 That's not how it works.

01:56:06.840 So the age of truth is not one year.

01:56:12.540 It's the beginning of people having more of a thirst for what is true than an appetite for lies.

01:56:24.800 So if you sell lies, it's a harder road for you.

01:56:32.340 If you have truths to tell, people are hungry for that, and they'll pay you handsomely to hear the truth.

01:56:41.300 It wasn't always that way.

01:56:42.940 It's that way right now in real time.

01:56:45.460 And whatever that means to you, that's the battle that's going on, is people who profit from the manipulation of others by getting you to believe something that's not the case.

01:57:00.680 And that's how they make their living.

01:57:03.560 And it is now a difficult time for those entities.

01:57:12.760 Do you think that there is actual cloning going on?

01:57:17.320 We have, we know that there's actual cloning going on.

01:57:23.000 The question I believe you're asking is human cloning.

01:57:27.060 Oh, yes, sir.

01:57:27.620 But let's start with the real question.

01:57:30.420 The real question is, is cloning going on?

01:57:33.920 Yeah.

01:57:34.360 Yeah, it is.

01:57:36.600 I knew it.

01:57:37.400 Yeah.

01:57:37.900 Well, I'm saying, let's just say animal cloning.

01:57:41.820 Oh, yes.

01:57:42.600 Let's start there.

01:57:44.300 That's not a myth or.

01:57:46.360 No, that's been known.

01:57:47.220 That's not a conspiracy theory that we are at the point where we have no problem cloning animals.

01:57:55.420 If you lose a pet, you can send away to these companies and they will.

01:58:01.760 They'll fucking remix that bitch and send it back.

01:58:03.960 Right.

01:58:04.640 Yeah.

01:58:05.040 As close a proximity as you can imagine.

01:58:08.060 Yeah.

01:58:08.500 Right.

01:58:08.860 That we know is possible.

01:58:11.320 Okay.

01:58:12.040 So now.

01:58:14.180 Through Viagen Pets right there.

01:58:15.680 So that's in the animal world.

01:58:20.100 So now in the human world, we know that there are multiple surgeries that we know we can replace this with that.

01:58:33.120 All the way up to what's our last achievement?

01:58:38.580 Is it heart?

01:58:41.800 The guy passed away with a pig heart.

01:58:44.240 But it worked for, I'm saying.

01:58:49.280 Let me see that.

01:58:49.900 Bring up that pig hearted guy.

01:58:52.980 Right there.

01:58:54.500 Yeah.

01:58:55.200 Two people have received a genetically modified pig heart transplant.

01:59:00.920 David Bennett and Lawrence Fawcett.

01:59:03.420 Both were performed in Maryland.

01:59:05.140 So there, there's not, the evidence is there.

01:59:18.160 Very much left on what it would take as far as abilities go.

01:59:24.420 So, um, so do you think there's any artists now that you think are not the same artists that we thought they were?

01:59:34.580 If we're only speaking of biology, I've heard that, um, a man's G spot is in his anal passage, which means I'm going to go my whole life without ever experiencing it.

01:59:51.420 So, um, yeah.

01:59:54.300 Yeah.

01:59:56.200 By the same token, everybody is a reflection of what they got to go through to get to where they at, right?

02:00:07.220 And I just know that the people that have been in positions where they decided to do some stuff that they said they weren't going to do, they don't be the same on the other side.

02:00:26.600 Um, nothing they can do can make them seem like what you remember them as.

02:00:33.220 Um, have you ever, I call it spiritual cause I don't know what else to call it, but yeah.

02:00:40.300 Have you ever faced, uh, that in your own life where they, where people try to come at you for offers like that?

02:00:49.060 Do you think that like stars and get offered that kind of thing?

02:00:54.360 Like to compromise themselves sexually for entertainment?

02:00:58.320 Uh, again, the things that we are discussing exist in each of the fields.

02:01:09.700 Right.

02:01:10.460 Any field.

02:01:11.520 Right.

02:01:12.180 Right.

02:01:13.540 Not entertainment exclusively.

02:01:17.760 Politics, religion, science, everywhere, right?

02:01:22.980 Some of this is human nature.

02:01:25.140 Right.

02:01:25.400 Right.

02:01:27.620 Because we listen and we don't judge.

02:01:31.580 Yeah.

02:01:36.240 Were there things that you didn't take in your career that you feel like were like, uh, like, are there things to look out for?

02:01:44.560 Do you feel like, like there, there wasn't for me because I knew I wasn't going to take it, but I did want to get offered.

02:01:51.060 You know what I mean?

02:01:52.400 And most of this stuff I wouldn't have believed until I had to get to a certain level to get to see the proof.

02:02:00.100 You know what I mean?

02:02:00.920 So, um, I was as shocked as anybody about how powerful Harvey Weinstein was at the time that I was meeting with him.

02:02:12.880 And how I had, how he could not be told no, that he get whatever he want.

02:02:27.020 You follow what I'm saying?

02:02:28.080 They'll figure out some way.

02:02:29.760 Right.

02:02:29.960 So I thought that didn't apply to me because I don't care about none, but bitches in good business.

02:02:38.820 Right.

02:02:39.300 And then he offered me two actresses, like they was playing cards.

02:02:44.340 And I was like, what?

02:02:47.400 Like he just jolted.

02:02:48.840 He was like, I know you.

02:02:50.580 Damn.

02:02:53.860 Right.

02:02:54.400 Like what?

02:02:56.220 Some aces.

02:02:59.820 No, my personal aces.

02:03:02.180 Yeah.

02:03:02.640 Did you think about it?

02:03:05.680 Look, I'm not.

02:03:08.440 In these scary situations, I don't even leave it up to me.

02:03:12.500 Like I'm going to do what the superhero would do in this part of the movie regardless and deal with what happens after.

02:03:25.700 Yeah.

02:03:26.540 Just because it's a story and I know it's a story.

02:03:29.420 Right.

02:03:29.540 It's my story.

02:03:31.140 You know what I mean?

02:03:31.980 So I can't.

02:03:32.960 That's a good way to think about things in general.

02:03:35.680 Yeah.

02:03:36.000 What would the superhero do right now?

02:03:38.380 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:38.860 Because I'm saying I read about Jesus getting to the mountaintop and the devil saying you can have all of this and him saying you don't have anything to offer me.

02:03:54.000 Like, you know what I mean?

02:03:54.840 So that's what I got to look up to.

02:03:57.280 So I'm going to follow suit in the best version I can regardless of anything else.

02:04:07.700 Do you have a comedian that passed away that you really, like, that you miss a lot?

02:04:15.160 I mean, I know there's been a lot of them.

02:04:19.340 But did you have like a real-

02:04:20.300 Oh, it's scary to say.

02:04:21.020 I miss so many.

02:04:22.380 Like-

02:04:22.540 Did you have like a brother in comedy?

02:04:23.940 Like-

02:04:25.380 I miss so many.

02:04:28.200 Like what was Bernie Mac like?

02:04:29.460 Was he a super guy?

02:04:32.700 Because I've never seen anybody like him.

02:04:34.400 That's a great place to start.

02:04:38.420 No.

02:04:39.140 You never saw anybody like him just because there wasn't anybody like him.

02:04:43.240 Yeah.

02:04:43.600 You know what I mean?

02:04:44.320 Like the things people pretend to do and talk themselves up to be and he was that already.

02:04:57.660 Um, yeah, I, um, I went down to his show when he was taping and they were saying he wasn't feeling good.

02:05:14.120 And I left there feeling like they're murdering this dude.

02:05:19.500 Like, he, he had a lung problem, right?

02:05:24.720 And the doctors told him that he just had to take time away from the show and he could come back when he was okay, right?

02:05:34.880 And his contract wouldn't let him.

02:05:37.500 Oh, yeah.

02:05:38.060 And they made him work through, like, yeah, yeah.

02:05:44.460 But I, I miss, I miss all of the comedy angels that I came in contact with from, um, from Charlie Murphy to, um, Heavy D.

02:05:59.640 I miss Heavy D, uh, John Witherspoon.

02:06:03.660 Yeah.

02:06:04.060 You know, like, we lost some really great comics.

02:06:09.660 I miss Rinaldo Ray.

02:06:11.140 I miss, ah, yeah, it's been a lot.

02:06:15.520 Bring up a picture of Rinaldo Ray.

02:06:16.800 I'm just not familiar with him just so I can see what he looks like.

02:06:21.920 Oh, yeah.

02:06:24.320 Yeah.

02:06:25.820 What, didn't he, didn't he play in the Cosby show?

02:06:28.000 Was he the grandfather?

02:06:28.980 He was a brilliant, brilliant, um, individual.

02:06:35.560 Like, he, he had multiple master's degrees and was an art collector and a real legendary guy.

02:06:49.580 Rinaldo.

02:06:50.360 Oh, mm-hmm.

02:06:51.780 Yeah.

02:06:53.600 What other?

02:06:55.000 What about Bill Cosby?

02:06:56.160 Did you ever get to meet him or not?

02:06:58.540 Before he had all the problems?

02:07:06.080 Is being a rapist one of the problems?

02:07:08.760 Oh, I got, sorry.

02:07:10.060 You said it, like, before he got scurvy.

02:07:15.880 Oh, man.

02:07:16.600 I don't know.

02:07:23.820 Yeah, bro, sorry, bro.

02:07:25.860 That was, yeah, that was, that was, yeah, I did, um, but yeah, what was he like before that, man?

02:07:35.040 Right, right.

02:07:36.280 I don't know, I don't know, he, he, comedically, like, he has some works comedically that you could put up there in the pantheon of joke-telling.

02:07:54.180 Oh, yeah.

02:07:54.600 He had so many albums when I was a kid that, like, our parents would play in the car, stuff like that.

02:07:58.580 Right, right, and he spent a good portion of his televised career really making black men and black families look really good in a time when that was not a popular thing to do.

02:08:17.800 And, um, uh, none of that supersedes rapist.

02:08:23.520 No.

02:08:23.960 But, um, yeah, I was, um, I was glad to not be a fan of his just because, you know, we liked Richard Pryor and you had to kind of like, which way are you, are you Richard Pryor, Red Fox, or are you Bill Cosby?

02:08:43.200 Yeah.

02:08:43.400 So, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's definitely different then.

02:08:48.560 Um, what else is going on?

02:08:52.300 Please don't have an R. Kelly question next time.

02:08:54.440 I do not have an R. Kelly question, no.

02:08:58.060 No, I don't, did you ever, did you get to go to Bernie Mac's funeral?

02:09:00.700 Did he have a big funeral?

02:09:07.640 Um, Steve Harvey was at his funeral, so I wouldn't have been there anyway.

02:09:12.800 But, um, I didn't know that.

02:09:15.220 Yeah.

02:09:16.580 Um.

02:09:23.180 What else?

02:09:23.760 I'll be able to tell you when you're, when you're black.

02:09:26.840 Okay.

02:09:27.920 Okay.

02:09:29.240 I feel like I'm not doing that good right now on it.

02:09:31.480 You're doing great.

02:09:32.440 Okay.

02:09:32.800 What do you mean?

02:09:33.500 Thanks, man.

02:09:35.020 Um, did you get, was it scary for you to be a parent whenever you decided you wanted to be a parent?

02:09:40.020 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:09:44.540 That's, yeah, that's one of those things where, it's only looking back that you realize, oh, I was not in any way qualified for that job.

02:09:58.360 Like, like, you know, but you try so hard, you know, and, um, it means everything, but, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's exciting and, and scary.

02:10:16.060 Like, like, you can't, so you, you, you don't have a, you don't have any kids.

02:10:24.160 No.

02:10:24.680 I want to get to, I would like to have some children, but I just.

02:10:27.040 Well, if you have one child, you're not gonna, you're not gonna have the drug issue to deal with ever again.

02:10:40.140 Really?

02:10:41.120 Yeah, because it's going to, you, you're not, you can't do them both.

02:10:48.080 Right.

02:10:51.440 You can't do them both.

02:10:53.820 Yeah.

02:10:54.720 And if, yeah, and if you.

02:10:56.100 As soon as you have, and it doesn't, it doesn't matter how you get this child.

02:11:01.040 Okay.

02:11:01.340 The second you become a father and this life is dependent upon you, like, you're gonna devote everything to that and you're gonna have to.

02:11:16.560 You're gonna have to because only somebody with your experiences will be able to deal with not being able to sleep for, like, two months.

02:11:26.680 You know what I mean?

02:11:28.180 Just on this baby's schedule that has no schedule except, yeah, it's crazy.

02:11:39.340 Life changing doesn't even say the half of it.

02:11:43.980 But, you know, do you have pets?

02:11:46.740 Mm-mm.

02:11:47.500 See, this is the thing.

02:11:49.180 Yeah.

02:11:50.140 Right.

02:11:50.840 I'm gonna get started too.

02:11:51.760 This, this is what's keeping you able to be in this world is because you've not given yourself a life responsibility.

02:12:00.880 You see what I'm saying?

02:12:01.820 I think that's why I became a community because I didn't want any responsibilities really.

02:12:05.060 Right.

02:12:05.900 Right.

02:12:06.440 In a lot of ways.

02:12:07.960 Right.

02:12:08.460 I think it's a big part of me that starts to feel like, yeah, I'm missing out if I don't, if I'm missing out, but I just want to know, I want to have every experience I can, you know?

02:12:16.200 Right.

02:12:16.840 Right.

02:12:17.560 And you can.

02:12:18.520 Yeah.

02:12:18.960 And this is the vehicle for that.

02:12:22.320 You know what I mean?

02:12:23.040 That's, what a coincidence that all your life will line up for you to want to do that.

02:12:30.000 And, and then to meet a girl at the airport that already loves to fly and travel and.

02:12:39.600 And make sure I don't have any illegal substances on me too at the same time.

02:12:44.580 Just because you're not going to need them.

02:12:46.240 Are you, are you a pet owner?

02:12:49.700 You a big pet owner, man?

02:12:50.960 I've heard that you got some animals over there.

02:12:52.980 Yeah.

02:12:53.300 I love the animals.

02:12:54.840 I've heard you got a couple of horses, things like that.

02:12:57.300 They're great.

02:12:57.940 Yeah.

02:12:58.580 Ducks.

02:12:59.220 Like I got, I got.

02:13:01.300 How many ducks do you have, Kat?

02:13:05.620 Between 19 and 21.

02:13:09.120 I just say that because a couple were there when I first got the place and they never left.

02:13:16.820 Right.

02:13:17.300 So they're there.

02:13:18.160 But everybody else, we raise some eggs, you know, that you go down to.

02:13:23.560 What's the name of that place?

02:13:25.480 Tractor Supply.

02:13:27.040 Oh, Tractor Supply.

02:13:27.940 Yeah.

02:13:28.580 You go to Tractor Supply.

02:13:30.740 Oh, and the feed and seed shop?

02:13:32.660 You do the, right.

02:13:33.660 You do the incubators.

02:13:35.340 Yeah.

02:13:35.560 So it's beautiful because they're all black.

02:13:38.740 Oh, really?

02:13:39.640 Yeah.

02:13:40.760 We need more of that.

02:13:41.700 We need everybody.

02:13:43.500 Diversity in the duck world.

02:13:45.000 Oh, hell yeah, dog.

02:13:46.360 I'm sick of seeing these fucking swans, bro.

02:13:49.200 You know what I'm saying?

02:13:50.980 These rich ass long neck motherfuckers, bro.

02:13:54.720 No, we have geese too.

02:13:56.540 But I'm just saying we need some fucking bangers in there, dog.

02:13:59.900 You know, we need some dark ducks in this bitch.

02:14:02.320 Yeah, yeah.

02:14:02.780 Or some, bring up a couple of black ducks, man.

02:14:06.040 I would love to see those right now.

02:14:07.780 Because I'm used to seeing mallards I've seen for sure.

02:14:10.820 But I've never seen some really good darker ducks.

02:14:14.280 Oh, that's a beautiful one right there.

02:14:16.500 None of these are black ducks.

02:14:18.280 Oh, sorry.

02:14:18.700 Well, get one.

02:14:19.600 But no, get one at the bottom.

02:14:20.620 Okay, yeah, there we go.

02:14:22.280 Oh, there we go.

02:14:22.600 That western black duck.

02:14:23.980 That western black.

02:14:25.280 That's an all black duck.

02:14:26.560 Oh, hell yeah.

02:14:28.260 Yeah.

02:14:29.160 But mine are.

02:14:30.040 Oh, that's fucking Mallard Luther King right there, bro.

02:14:33.700 That thing dark as hell, dude.

02:14:39.460 Sorry, bro.

02:14:41.660 You're going to make a great black guy.

02:14:43.560 Mallard Luther King.

02:14:44.620 That could be his name.

02:14:46.740 And that is actually a beautiful name for a duck.

02:14:49.140 For that duck specifically.

02:14:51.080 It is.

02:14:51.680 Mallard Luther the King.

02:14:54.180 Yes.

02:14:56.600 Do you think, oh, some people think that guys like Mallard Luther King were compromised by the CIA.

02:15:02.400 Do you ever believe stuff like that?

02:15:06.780 Well, this kind of goes back to.

02:15:10.120 Like there's a lot of conspiracy theory stuff about that, you know.

02:15:15.000 Somebody says it's a conspiracy, but that doesn't make it the case.

02:15:19.060 In both of these cases that we've had these conversations, we are talking about the FBI and the CIA.

02:15:28.540 So what do you think they do?

02:15:33.180 So maybe we're unclear about what we think these agencies do.

02:15:39.780 So now the question becomes, hey, do you think they be doing their job?

02:15:44.080 I do.

02:15:46.240 I do think they be doing their job.

02:15:48.880 You mean all through history?

02:15:51.040 Yes.

02:15:52.000 Yes, I think they keep on doing their job.

02:15:54.940 You think they get everybody?

02:15:56.300 I think they get everybody.

02:16:01.960 So again, not conspiracy theory at all.

02:16:06.560 Paul, I'm saying the only way that there could be a FBI file for us to be able to get 30 years after his death is if there's a FBI file, correct?

02:16:20.420 Right, right, right, right.

02:16:22.300 Right.

02:16:23.140 Damn, bro.

02:16:24.300 Nobody could trust anybody.

02:16:28.820 That's a scary part to me sometimes.

02:16:30.760 The Bible said, do not put your trust in men.

02:16:38.800 It's pretty specific.

02:16:41.560 Why?

02:16:42.480 Because everybody can be compromised except you.

02:16:46.720 Yeah.

02:16:48.800 If you don't believe in God, then it's pretty messed up because now you only got you to believe in.

02:16:54.180 But if you got you and God, you can believe in both of those.

02:16:59.760 You can have peace then.

02:17:04.040 Have you had times in your life where you struggled having God in your life, or what's that been like for you?

02:17:09.580 No.

02:17:12.240 Do you have a practice that you use kind of to like, like one of my goals this year is to have more God in my life, right?

02:17:19.280 So for me, I'm just using like more times where I stop and pray, like even some of those moments in my head will pop in, like you should hit your knees right now and pray.

02:17:26.700 And sometimes I just don't do those.

02:17:27.940 I just go and keep doing it about my day.

02:17:29.600 But now when those hit me, I'm trying to just make sure I do that, you know, just like because it's like an intuition that I have, you know, just because I want to have a stronger practice.

02:17:37.700 And understand it's, it's, the reason that it's special is because only you're going to know that it's working, right?

02:17:54.600 There's going to be no evidence other than the evidence, but you're going to know that, like I, I talk to God five and six times a day.

02:18:12.360 He has an accurate account of how I'm feeling about everything, how I think things are going, what I feel like I'm doing good at, what I feel like I need help with.

02:18:25.360 These are our conversations.

02:18:28.000 So I don't wonder why stuff gets moved out of my way because I asked for things to be moved out of my way.

02:18:40.900 Like you asked earlier, like, aren't you scared?

02:18:45.100 Like, I'm not allowed to be scared because I'm not counting on me.

02:18:51.280 Like, um, you can't fuck me up because you're not allowed to fuck me up.

02:18:59.140 And I've been in enough situations to know that he ain't let me down yet.

02:19:07.100 Like, like, every time I needed his safety, it was there.

02:19:12.400 Yeah.

02:19:12.740 And will be.

02:19:13.900 And the more times you communicate, the better the relationship is.

02:19:20.480 And then you'll find that that works with the black girl from the airport, too.

02:19:26.480 Like, communication is key.

02:19:29.240 Oh, Lord, man.

02:19:40.360 Literally, huh?

02:19:43.880 You're perfect when you don't even try.

02:19:46.580 Bam.

02:19:50.220 I've heard you say that you feel like we're about to enter, like, a golden era.

02:19:54.000 Well, what do you mean kind of by that?

02:19:59.360 Like, what are, or what feelings do you have about that?

02:20:04.980 And what can we look forward to?

02:20:06.540 Um, I was just trying to be super positive at the time.

02:20:20.460 I wasn't trying to be actually accurate with the question.

02:20:25.040 Okay.

02:20:25.480 The question was asked, I think, almost on New Year's or something like that, or Christmas,

02:20:32.620 something like that.

02:20:33.420 It was pretty close to the top of the year.

02:20:36.460 So I didn't want to say anything that would make anybody uncomfortable or awkward.

02:20:46.840 But the Bible has a book called Revelations, right?

02:20:54.260 And it gives you this little metaphorical rundown of how things should go.

02:21:05.760 Bring it up real quick, Revelations.

02:21:08.540 We can get a look at it.

02:21:18.020 Here we go.

02:21:19.140 Here we go.

02:21:19.160 Book of Revelation or book of the Apocalypse, the final book of the New Testament.

02:21:33.200 Correct.

02:21:34.160 So now, it talks about the things that will happen in what's called the last days, right?

02:21:44.820 Before the second coming of Jesus, right?

02:21:50.940 Because my whole life, I was just trying to figure out, like, whatever it would take for Jesus to come back,

02:22:02.080 why aren't all of the people around the world that love Jesus, why aren't they making sure that happens?

02:22:08.960 Yeah.

02:22:09.160 So he would come back.

02:22:12.980 Yeah, like Santa didn't leave milk and cookies out, you know what I'm saying?

02:22:16.020 You'd think we would fucking leave out a couple of freaking secrets.

02:22:19.580 We're willing to go buy the presents ourselves and say you delivered them.

02:22:24.300 Put some sacred snacks out for him or something.

02:22:26.820 Right.

02:22:28.520 So, you know, it just tells a story of the little key things that will happen that you can look forward to before things get there, right?

02:22:43.340 And so it talks about things like all of the nations will have to come together and make a group called the United Nations, you know?

02:22:59.940 And this was written way back then, and we have a United Nations now, and it talks about there being wars and reports of wars in multiple places,

02:23:11.700 and it gives us a little guideline just to, you know, what may be happening in the future.

02:23:19.720 Like whenever Jesus comes back, where do you think it'll be at?

02:23:28.040 Well, the Bible is generally pretty specific about places generally.

02:23:44.660 So, like it talks about Armageddon, right?

02:23:53.140 And there's this actual valley of Armageddon, I'm going to mispronounce it, but Armageddon,

02:24:02.680 but the valley of Armageddon that's supposed to take place, there's this valley that is named after, which really exists.

02:24:11.240 But wherever it is, he's going to bring it up, but there's probably a war there now.

02:24:22.040 Right.

02:24:22.920 Right.

02:24:23.420 So, here we are.

02:24:26.900 The Valley of Megiddo, also known as Jezreel Valley, is a large fertile plain in northern Israel.

02:24:32.180 It's known for its historical, theological, and geographical significance.

02:24:36.060 Oh, wow.

02:24:37.180 And there's a lot of war going on right there, right now.

02:24:40.540 Correct.

02:24:41.240 So, TBD, huh?

02:24:48.860 What are some of the other animals that you have there?

02:24:51.460 I have heard that you have horses over there.

02:24:53.180 Is that a true cut that you have some horses over there?

02:24:57.840 The donkeys are the stars over there.

02:25:00.480 But, yeah, we got a lot of, yeah, we have cows, mini cows.

02:25:07.260 Those are the best kind.

02:25:08.960 Mini cows and potbelly pigs.

02:25:10.100 How big are they?

02:25:10.920 Potbelly pigs.

02:25:12.440 Probably about to right there.

02:25:14.040 A mini cow?

02:25:14.760 Yeah.

02:25:15.260 Bring up a mini cow real quick.

02:25:16.700 I want to see one of them.

02:25:17.480 They're beautiful, too.

02:25:18.760 My sister has a picture of a couple of them at her house.

02:25:22.800 Beautiful.

02:25:23.120 Yeah, if we can find a white one, that'll be like cash.

02:25:28.880 That's your name, Cash?

02:25:30.460 Uh-huh.

02:25:31.160 Oh, that's cool.

02:25:32.300 Wow.

02:25:32.940 Are those milkable?

02:25:36.300 He's a boy, so I don't need them.

02:25:38.060 Oh, damn well, yeah.

02:25:40.300 I'm not it.

02:25:41.820 Right.

02:25:43.020 Oh, look at that.

02:25:44.420 So, you know, the blessing, he doesn't, he has no idea he's mini.

02:25:50.720 Oh, I see.

02:25:51.920 Yeah, ours is bigger than that, but, yeah.

02:25:55.900 That beautiful little one right there.

02:25:57.740 Yeah, they're really fun.

02:26:00.780 And do you name, so that one's named Cash, and what other name do you have for these animals?

02:26:04.640 Well, all the animals, all the animals have, have names, except, except animals that might

02:26:18.180 be delicious, like, like, goat is like my favorite meat, I think, and so we have quite

02:26:29.940 a few, you know.

02:26:31.560 And are you eating goat?

02:26:32.260 Not Billy, he's the king of all the goats, right, right, but.

02:26:36.980 But you're having a little bit of goat.

02:26:38.000 How much goat are you having monthly, you think?

02:26:44.120 Weekly.

02:26:44.980 Oh, okay.

02:26:46.100 Damn, okay.

02:26:47.340 So, Cat got him a little bit of money if he having a weekly goat meal, you know that, boy.

02:26:53.260 I'm accountable, you know.

02:26:54.700 Yes, sir, yes, sir.

02:26:55.540 Goat eat goat.

02:26:56.480 Hey, man, goats eat goat.

02:26:58.480 Right.

02:26:58.960 I love that.

02:27:03.260 He's making a little money.

02:27:05.160 Sorry.

02:27:05.880 I'm just trying to think.

02:27:06.980 I'm trying to.

02:27:07.460 I think sometimes I was just, I was so nervous about who you are, because you seem like

02:27:12.560 such a, like, you almost seem like something that came down off of Mount Rushmore to spend

02:27:17.380 time with us today.

02:27:18.160 So, I think that's, like, the mystique about you.

02:27:22.220 So, I think sometimes I don't know when it's, like, okay to joke around and stuff, you know.

02:27:25.620 So, you just try and figure it out as you go, you know.

02:27:27.820 So, I hope that that is not correct and you're just saying that, because it is always okay

02:27:35.000 to joke around me.

02:27:36.940 No, I appreciate that.

02:27:37.740 I definitely feel that, for sure, more than other interviews.

02:27:40.660 I'm trying to think of what else I want to ask you about.

02:27:49.760 This is the best picture I ever got about it.

02:27:53.500 Someone sent this and they said, this is.

02:27:57.920 Cat Williams talking to Cam Newton, somebody said.

02:28:03.660 Right.

02:28:04.060 And that's what I'm thinking, man.

02:28:07.660 Yeah, because here's the thing.

02:28:09.820 Here's the thing.

02:28:13.360 Everything, yeah, we know that stupid picture of me.

02:28:16.540 Thanks.

02:28:17.120 Appreciate it.

02:28:18.440 Yeah.

02:28:18.880 Oh, I didn't even see that.

02:28:19.660 Can we take that down?

02:28:20.520 That's unbelievable.

02:28:21.540 Very racist.

02:28:22.340 You see how I became racist to me?

02:28:23.860 Yeah.

02:28:25.140 No, but here's the facts.

02:28:27.040 The facts are, you know, everything we know about history, we know because of artifacts.

02:28:34.060 Things that were left behind, you know what I mean?

02:28:38.580 And so to be heavily into the culture in a way that is represented is pretty cool.

02:28:50.820 It's a pretty big deal, you know?

02:28:52.720 Yeah.

02:28:53.840 Yeah.

02:28:54.420 We should make one next year if we made one and we did make a charity for it or something.

02:28:59.020 That could be cool.

02:28:59.620 Right, but we would have to do you one, too.

02:29:07.600 So, like, there would have to be a Theo Vaughn as well.

02:29:10.540 I mean, I would be happy to do that.

02:29:12.180 Yours is really the...

02:29:14.540 Yours is the one they're already using without your permission.

02:29:17.440 That's what I'm saying.

02:29:18.140 They are already doing mine.

02:29:19.320 Yeah, that's true.

02:29:22.200 But maybe we'll try to find one.

02:29:23.560 That'd be kind of a neat...

02:29:24.320 Maybe we could do something where we'd raise some money for something.

02:29:26.840 I would love it.

02:29:27.660 You would?

02:29:27.980 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

02:29:29.540 Yeah.

02:29:29.720 Okay.

02:29:30.500 Yeah, I'm all about that.

02:29:31.960 That's cool.

02:29:32.960 We should do it for...

02:29:35.200 Yeah.

02:29:36.640 I'd be happy.

02:29:37.160 We should do it for autism.

02:29:42.280 We should do it for people on the spectrum.

02:29:44.540 Okay.

02:29:45.020 Yeah.

02:29:45.620 And everybody has autism.

02:29:47.400 They have all types of people with autism, yeah?

02:29:50.200 Right.

02:29:50.880 Mm-hmm.

02:29:51.160 Yeah.

02:29:51.660 I would love to do that.

02:29:52.520 That's a cool idea.

02:29:53.080 And do you...

02:29:54.720 My last question for you, Kat, do you know any Native Americans you ever met any over

02:29:57.980 the years?

02:29:58.400 What's that been like?

02:30:00.080 Really cool.

02:30:02.660 Right.

02:30:04.160 Like, way more...

02:30:08.200 I'm trying to figure out how to say it, but like...

02:30:11.860 Because I've just heard...

02:30:12.540 Some of these are just things that I've heard.

02:30:14.040 When you...

02:30:16.040 I met this tribe that...

02:30:20.540 Several times I've met several tribes, but the whole thing is...

02:30:26.420 Oh, yeah.

02:30:27.020 You get this thing around them that you understand that they've been standing here.

02:30:37.780 You know what I mean?

02:30:38.840 Like, there's a...

02:30:42.940 Yeah.

02:30:43.360 You understand how difficult it is to carry legacies and stories, even though your people

02:30:51.160 have been getting destroyed, and then when it's all as bad as it could possibly be, and

02:30:59.140 everything is destroyed of your whole legacy, then they give you unlimited money and have

02:31:06.160 casinos.

02:31:08.460 It's a mind-blowing thing to watch a people, a group of people still carry their legacy

02:31:21.140 along, and that's what you get.

02:31:24.480 And they know so much about so much, like, you know what I mean?

02:31:28.840 Oh, yeah.

02:31:29.380 Like, and I'm an outdoor guy, like, and they know everything about everything.

02:31:36.560 Like, fishing with them is, like, a whole different experience.

02:31:40.460 They're whistling them bitches in the boat.

02:31:41.780 Like, they don't make no mistakes.

02:31:44.120 Like, that whole part where you don't catch fish, they don't know shit about that.

02:31:50.860 Yeah, they're catching bitches, and half of them cook.

02:31:53.760 They're catching bitches.

02:31:54.820 They do it right.

02:31:55.680 I want you to come out of the water boneless.

02:32:05.680 Filets.

02:32:08.680 With outdoor stuff, have you ever done any, like, camping or anything like that?

02:32:14.000 You ever done any long camps?

02:32:15.440 Did you ever do, like, a plant medicine retreat or anything like that?

02:32:17.740 No, but having a 100-acre ranch, you start getting into trying to make sure you,

02:32:28.700 because first you have to figure out what you already have there.

02:32:33.280 You know what I mean?

02:32:33.880 Because I'm kind of, aren't you, like, close to Nashville?

02:32:36.880 Yeah, yeah.

02:32:37.660 Right.

02:32:37.980 So, I'm out in Mississippi on this farm, you see?

02:32:42.680 And so, you know, you're learning what's out there,

02:32:46.720 and then you're trying to accentuate what's already out there.

02:32:50.880 And because I think we probably got, like, 300 deer, like, wow.

02:33:00.220 And they're just running around everywhere?

02:33:04.500 Yeah.

02:33:06.340 Yeah.

02:33:07.940 Because the way progress worked, they kept getting pinned in,

02:33:14.080 and then there was a golf course, and so they had a little safe area in between them.

02:33:21.300 And then when houses start going in, then it became neighborhood, gated community,

02:33:30.500 and now there's nowhere else for them to be.

02:33:33.300 And this particular area is where they all came to.

02:33:38.440 So, pretty wonderful.

02:33:41.780 Yeah, I could see you having, like, a cool petting zoo or something one day if you wanted to,

02:33:45.020 when you're, you know, you ever quit or just wanted to have a peaceful animal type of,

02:33:50.180 or a safari, something like that.

02:33:54.840 Yeah, yeah.

02:33:55.860 Cats, cats.

02:33:56.820 I'm never trying to do something that requires interaction.

02:34:01.120 Like, what I'm doing is creating heaven on earth.

02:34:06.360 Yeah.

02:34:06.880 Right?

02:34:07.460 So, that means finding out all of the things that really make you jump for joy

02:34:13.720 and excited and make you go, oh, and collecting those around yourself

02:34:21.660 so that no matter what it is you have to deal with in the world,

02:34:27.700 you can come back to this little heavenly environment that you have created.

02:34:36.740 That's it.

02:34:37.480 That fuels you, you know?

02:34:40.120 Yeah.

02:34:40.500 That's the tour right there.

02:34:41.880 Yeah.

02:34:42.280 Heaven on earth.

02:34:42.980 As it turns out.

02:34:44.580 Yeah.

02:34:45.120 Yeah.

02:34:45.700 Cat, man, thank you so much for spending time with me today, man.

02:34:47.840 I appreciate it.

02:34:49.220 Yeah.

02:34:49.620 Thanks for just so many things, so many quotable moments from your life that you've shared with us.

02:34:56.320 And, yeah, it's an honor, bro.

02:34:59.280 I really feel honored to be in your presence today.

02:35:01.980 And just, yeah, I can't even believe it.

02:35:04.800 So, thank you so much.

02:35:06.140 Likewise.

02:35:06.440 Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

02:35:12.460 I must be cornerstone.

02:35:17.840 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

02:35:23.100 And I can feel it in my bones.

02:35:26.580 But it's gonna take...

02:35:29.580 IFF특, man.

02:35:30.480 I feel it in my heart.

02:35:31.800 I mean, it's gonna be survived.

02:35:32.500 I'm just falling like this.

02:35:33.100 I'll make you disappear and see the reality.

02:35:33.460 It's gonna make you fall like this.

02:35:34.120 I feel I'm gone like this.

02:35:34.880 I feel it in my bones.

02:35:35.300 I felt my gonna be Ghrot of water.

02:35:36.500 I feel it in my bones.

02:35:37.820 I feel it in my bones and back in my bones

02:35:39.120 working on my bones.

02:35:39.700 I mean, I feel it in my bones.

02:35:41.420 You know, but when I leave that aside there,

02:35:41.680 I can't have them.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - January 28, 2025

E558 Katt Williams

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