This Past Weekend with Theo Von - E564 Tom Green

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00:01:25.040 Today's guest is a comedian.

00:01:26.980 He's an actor.

00:01:27.820 He's a filmmaker.

00:01:28.720 He's an innovator.

00:01:29.920 He's a visual entrepreneur who really laid the blueprint for podcasting and prank shows and all types of genres.

00:01:38.940 He's had one of the most unique and legendary careers in comedy, from the Tom Green show on MTV to as many movies like Freddy Got Fingered, Road Trip.

00:01:49.900 He just dropped three new projects on Prime Video, a comedy special, a documentary, and a scripted show.

00:01:57.680 We'll get into all that.

00:01:58.920 We're excited to welcome Canada's son, Mr. Tom Green.

00:02:05.220 Tom Green, it's your first day back in L.A. in four years, did you say?

00:02:25.460 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:26.360 It feels good, actually.

00:02:28.300 Yeah, it was weird.

00:02:29.320 I just moved four years ago.

00:02:31.520 It was kind of a somewhat spontaneous decision.

00:02:35.480 You know, when COVID happened, remember that?

00:02:37.340 And everything stopped.

00:02:39.100 And all of a sudden, you know, I've been touring and I'll just remember, everybody stopped touring, right?

00:02:46.020 At the beginning.

00:02:46.660 Yeah, everything kind of just stopped.

00:02:48.240 I'm trying to remember if it was just me that stopped or did everyone stop?

00:02:51.200 Everyone stopped.

00:02:51.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:52.060 So about the first six months or so of that, I was kind of, what am I going to do?

00:02:58.520 And then I just kind of realized I, well, I got this, I was telling you about my van.

00:03:02.960 I got this van and I started going out into the desert and making videos and stuff.

00:03:08.120 Here and outside of L.A.?

00:03:09.060 Just outside L.A.

00:03:10.020 And I loved being out in the desert so much and just waking up in the morning with a cup of coffee and just looking at the sun coming up over the mountains and just the peacefulness of that.

00:03:19.660 Yeah, it's out in the Mojave Desert.

00:03:21.600 That was like the first day of the trip, I think, four years ago.

00:03:24.500 And so then, you know, I just decided to sell my house.

00:03:26.980 I'd been in my house for 18 years.

00:03:29.060 I sold my house and went back to Canada and bought a farm near where my parents live.

00:03:33.280 And just, I can't believe four years went by, but yesterday was the first day back in Los Angeles in the van.

00:03:40.820 We drove back down in the van.

00:03:42.040 So I've been touring with my fiancee who you just met.

00:03:44.900 I have a fiancee now.

00:03:45.960 Went back to Canada.

00:03:46.700 I've got a fiancee from Canada now.

00:03:48.160 Yeah, good choice.

00:03:49.140 And we came back in the van and just drove into town yesterday.

00:03:55.080 And it's pretty weird because it's like, it feels like I, nothing's really, it kind of makes you think about time.

00:04:01.980 Time is weird, you know, because I went away for four years and then you come back and I drove past my house that I lived in for almost 20 years.

00:04:10.600 And now I'm staying in a hotel right down across from where the house is.

00:04:14.080 I can actually see the house from the hotel room.

00:04:16.200 I sort of did that on purpose because I thought it would be weird.

00:04:19.500 And, you know, I'm going to this, I went to Arts Deli.

00:04:24.380 You know, I lived sort of in the Studio City area here.

00:04:26.620 And I went to Arts Deli and got my same pastrami sandwich and my chicken noodle soup.

00:04:33.260 And I've been going to some of the same restaurants, just been here for a day.

00:04:36.680 And it doesn't feel like it's been four years.

00:04:39.740 It feels like I actually, I'm driving here, you know, today I was sort of almost forgot that I didn't live here anymore.

00:04:47.660 I kept thinking, oh, I'll go back to my house after.

00:04:49.180 Oh, right.

00:04:49.480 I don't live here anymore.

00:04:50.380 So that's a strange thing.

00:04:51.800 But on the flip side, in the last four years, I've got a farm, which I've now really settled into.

00:04:59.160 I've got these incredible animals, which are now I'm really bonded with, this mule and this donkey and two horses and chickens.

00:05:09.220 And it's just like this, it's sort of been an incredible, incredible journey the last four years.

00:05:14.200 So, yeah, it's been cool.

00:05:16.520 Was it something that you always wanted to have?

00:05:18.100 You feel like a farm?

00:05:18.940 I guess every human kind of maybe feels something like that.

00:05:21.480 I'm going to get a little bit of land.

00:05:22.740 I'm going to get some animals.

00:05:23.780 Was it that or was it?

00:05:24.640 No, it's weird because I never really imagined having a mule, you know, like and riding a mule every day.

00:05:31.600 I didn't grow up with that.

00:05:32.400 You know, I grew up in the suburbs of Ottawa, Canada.

00:05:36.140 I'm outside of Ottawa, but.

00:05:39.160 And a mule is kind of like the El Camino of horses in a way.

00:05:42.280 Yeah.

00:05:42.420 It's very much the, you know what I'm saying?

00:05:44.760 It's not me saying, hey, I'm going to get a horse.

00:05:46.980 It's like, I'm going to get a mule.

00:05:48.040 Yeah.

00:05:48.920 Yeah.

00:05:49.380 I sort of thought initially I thought it would be kind of funny.

00:05:52.960 And then the mule I happened to find, Fanny, is her name.

00:05:57.640 And she's this beautiful mule. 0.93

00:05:59.340 She's this huge animal. 0.98

00:06:01.400 And that's Kia the donkey in the background.

00:06:04.120 And so it's just become this sort of amazing change.

00:06:09.320 But yeah, I, you know, I, initially I hadn't, I didn't really thought of necessarily getting

00:06:16.760 a farm with a mule and all this stuff, but I wanted to get a place that was kind of in

00:06:20.600 nature really was.

00:06:22.200 And then the, the, the farm happened to have these old barns on it.

00:06:25.280 And I thought it'd be kind of cool to get a mule in those barns.

00:06:27.860 So I, I, I now am very much loving life up there.

00:06:34.100 I get up in the morning and I have Sadler up and ride off into the wilderness.

00:06:37.260 It's pretty cool.

00:06:38.340 Really?

00:06:38.600 So does it, and that's never something that you wanted.

00:06:40.940 That was never like a thing of your whole life.

00:06:42.640 Like I want to have this thing.

00:06:43.620 It just kind of.

00:06:44.420 Yeah.

00:06:44.860 I mean, I love, I always loved animals.

00:06:46.600 I, you know, I have my dog, Charlie, and I've always enjoyed being outdoors, but I mean,

00:06:52.760 it just, it just kind of, I don't know, every once in a while, you know, you know,

00:06:59.960 sometimes when an idea pops into your head and then you just go with it and then all

00:07:02.920 of a sudden you've done it.

00:07:03.800 And this is like that, except it sort of occurred to me afterwards, you know, as, as

00:07:08.360 I was doing, I was realizing, you know, I'm going to have this mule for the rest of my

00:07:11.180 life.

00:07:11.540 You know, like they live to be, donkeys live to be up to 40, 50 years old.

00:07:15.560 Oh my God, really?

00:07:16.240 Kia's only three.

00:07:17.260 So, so it's a lifelong commitment.

00:07:19.700 And, uh.

00:07:20.160 The donkey could live after you.

00:07:21.780 Absolutely. 0.95

00:07:22.360 She probably, she probably will.

00:07:23.740 But, uh, yeah, so it's, so, but it's, you know, it's, it's, um, I think maybe I was

00:07:29.460 looking for something that would kind of ground me and, you know, give me that home base that

00:07:33.460 I needed, you know, this is the first, this is the first time I've ever lived somewhere

00:07:36.900 where I know I'm going to be there for the rest of my life.

00:07:39.000 Wow.

00:07:39.140 You know, I'm planting trees and I'm thinking, oh, in 20 years, I'm going to, that tree is

00:07:43.180 going to be, and these trees are going to be bigger.

00:07:45.000 And I'm kind of sort of plotting out things that way.

00:07:47.700 Yeah.

00:07:48.240 That's interesting.

00:07:49.380 I can totally relate with that and what you're saying about LA.

00:07:52.100 LA just feels like this kind of, it's almost like LA doesn't have a memory in it.

00:07:56.300 It feels like, um, I don't know, other places, I think, especially if it's a place that's

00:08:00.220 a little more grounded, it feels maybe more meaningful for some reason.

00:08:04.840 I don't know.

00:08:05.720 Yeah.

00:08:06.000 It's, I mean, it's weird.

00:08:08.320 I moved here.

00:08:08.800 I moved here when I was 28.

00:08:11.500 I think it was 28 or 29 when I moved to LA.

00:08:14.120 I'm 53 now.

00:08:16.700 And, uh, I mean, I, I loved it.

00:08:18.700 I had a great time here.

00:08:19.520 I wasn't, I wasn't leaving LA cause I didn't, you know, like LA or anything.

00:08:24.580 It was just, it was more, I wanted to be close to my parents and they're still doing good.

00:08:28.340 I don't want to be close to family and stuff.

00:08:30.360 And, but, um, but yeah, it's, uh, it is a, it is a unique place for sure.

00:08:37.400 People come here from all over the world to pursue their dreams.

00:08:40.960 And, and, uh, there's sort of a energy there that's exciting.

00:08:44.820 But, you know, when you, as I got a little older, you know, I left when I was 50 and,

00:08:52.640 uh, you know, uh, not married, no kids, COVID happened.

00:08:58.900 Um, I'd been in my house for 18 years.

00:09:02.320 The real estate market went up.

00:09:03.640 I was like, Oh, maybe I should sell it now as opposed to, you know, five years ago, I

00:09:07.780 wouldn't want to.

00:09:08.820 So there was a moment in time, maybe I'll sell this place, you know, that I've been living

00:09:13.420 in for 20 years, waiting for the right moment to, to feel like it was time to go.

00:09:18.020 And, um, cause, uh, I don't know.

00:09:20.600 I kind of felt like I, uh, I wanted to be back where I grew up, you know?

00:09:25.280 I mean, you're not, you're not from here either.

00:09:27.200 So, you know, it's, there's something, there's something, there's something very, um, sort

00:09:32.360 of, uh, I guess deep that you feel when you're home, you know, I know, I'm sure when, where

00:09:37.680 are you from?

00:09:38.280 Tennessee.

00:09:38.760 I'm from Louisiana.

00:09:39.480 I live in Tennessee now.

00:09:40.200 Louisiana, Louisiana.

00:09:41.100 But yeah, it gives you, yeah, there's a sense of like, yeah, that you've been out of

00:09:45.600 your soil for a long time, you know, that you've kind of.

00:09:48.540 Like when you go back to Louisiana, you must feel like, Oh, now I'm at home, right?

00:09:51.840 This home.

00:09:52.260 Oh, there's definitely a ton of nostalgia that I love.

00:09:55.580 You know, um, I think it makes sense that a part of you wants to kind of go back where

00:10:01.280 you came into the world at, or be there, you know, to be, see people that care about me.

00:10:06.200 Yeah.

00:10:06.520 See that, see people that I care about.

00:10:08.560 Wonder if you've gotten enough of the, like the adventure out of your system in some ways,

00:10:13.320 you can still have the adventure, but just have it from there, you know?

00:10:17.020 Yeah.

00:10:17.200 And I think also the part, like you're saying about, this is the first time you'd ever

00:10:20.320 like planted plants.

00:10:21.780 You're like, I'll see these.

00:10:22.880 I've always felt like my life was very, um, transient.

00:10:26.600 Like I was just passing by.

00:10:28.220 I've never been the type of guy to get like a lot of furniture or artwork or anything.

00:10:32.560 I'm always just like, I don't know how long I'm going to be here.

00:10:34.800 And it's always, and here I am in my forties and it's still, I still kind of operate like

00:10:39.440 that.

00:10:39.880 But at a certain point, it's like, yeah, you want something that's a little bit more

00:10:43.200 settling.

00:10:43.900 Um, and if you found a fiance, I'm sure that kind of helped a little bit.

00:10:47.480 Yeah, absolutely.

00:10:48.280 Yeah.

00:10:48.460 Amanda's here.

00:10:49.140 We were, it's her first time in Los Angeles.

00:10:51.120 I see.

00:10:51.520 At least you get to be a host and a tour guide.

00:10:53.260 That's kind of nice.

00:10:54.080 Showing around my, uh, my old hometown, my, my new old hometown.

00:10:57.240 Yeah.

00:10:57.660 And a camper too, dude.

00:10:59.020 What was that about?

00:10:59.900 Yeah.

00:11:00.080 So that's, that's been pretty wild.

00:11:01.700 It's, uh, so like, cause when I got this van, I, uh, I kind of got pretty good at it.

00:11:07.540 Like going to really remote places in the American Southwest, particularly like in New Mexico,

00:11:14.940 Utah.

00:11:15.680 Zion. 0.76

00:11:16.040 You go to Zion?

00:11:16.780 Yeah.

00:11:17.060 I went to Zion.

00:11:17.700 I did camp in Zion, but like there's, there's, there's this other kind of land called BLM land.

00:11:23.560 It's Bureau of Land Management land that is basically all of the desert and land that

00:11:30.700 is owned by the U S government.

00:11:32.320 It's managed by the Bureau of Land Management and they, they'll cut roads into the desert

00:11:37.300 and they'll put sort of campsite areas with fire pits and stuff.

00:11:40.780 They kind of keep it somewhat, um, organized so that people don't go driving all around

00:11:46.220 the desert and trash in the desert.

00:11:47.560 They have these roads and stuff.

00:11:48.680 So you can get, I got this app.

00:11:50.780 It's called, uh, dirt, D Y R T. It's like, it's basically an app that gives you all the 1.00

00:11:55.780 different locations of these sort of really obscure places that are not even in national

00:12:01.300 parks or anything.

00:12:02.040 D U I R T. 1.00

00:12:03.000 Yeah.

00:12:03.420 Yeah.

00:12:03.740 And so it kind of like, you find stuff that is just unbelievable.

00:12:08.920 Like, um, you know, I, I sort of can't stop talking about it to, to people that don't

00:12:13.200 know about it, but like, I mean, you may know about Chaco Canyon, but I'd never heard

00:12:16.500 of it before.

00:12:17.000 It was, it's this, it's, it's in New Mexico.

00:12:19.680 And in fact, if you go to my last, uh, YouTube video on, uh, my YouTube channel, that's just

00:12:25.680 a video I shot a couple of days ago.

00:12:27.720 Um, and you can scroll down to like the second video, go to the second video.

00:12:32.360 This is Chaco Canyon.

00:12:33.640 So this is like Native American ruins that are, uh, essentially like built in the year

00:12:40.560 875.

00:12:41.860 It's like, you know, and it's like this, it's a city, you know, it's like a city in

00:12:46.040 the desert.

00:12:47.040 Um, and it's just out there in the middle of Northern New Mexico.

00:12:50.840 This is, this is Amanda, my fiance, Amanda.

00:12:53.800 And, uh.

00:12:55.200 Yeah, I think so.

00:12:56.920 And we're just going around making these videos and, but you'll see, like, look at this

00:13:00.600 place.

00:13:01.200 So it's like, you know, everyone always talks about Machu Picchu in Peru and they talk about

00:13:04.940 all these incredible things in, you know, ancient, you know, uh, you know, places, but

00:13:10.960 like the fact that you can just drive out of Albuquerque, you know, drive north of Albuquerque.

00:13:16.600 You know, I.

00:13:16.920 Wow, this is there?

00:13:17.860 Yeah, this is there.

00:13:18.580 And it's really remote.

00:13:19.760 Like it's on the Navajo Nation, uh, uh, land.

00:13:23.740 Mm-hmm.

00:13:24.480 And so we just were out there camping for four nights and, uh, exploring and hiking off into

00:13:30.160 this beautiful desert and, um.

00:13:32.960 Getting some good rest out there?

00:13:34.140 Do you get good rest when you're out on the road?

00:13:35.420 Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

00:13:36.580 God, that's nice.

00:13:37.480 It's nice, just, it's quiet.

00:13:39.040 That's the tough thing to get, man.

00:13:40.400 It's cooking on the campfire and, and it's just been, uh, fun.

00:13:44.180 And I enjoy photography, you know.

00:13:46.480 You're shooting this really, really well.

00:13:48.520 Yeah, I got, I got sort of lots of different cameras and stuff and I, uh, I like to kind of,

00:13:54.260 uh, do that.

00:13:55.720 So it's, there's something about shooting out in the desert that's just so beautiful because

00:13:58.860 you have these long horizons and, you know, big open spaces.

00:14:03.180 But, and there's an energy there that is just something that's hard to put your finger

00:14:07.120 on.

00:14:07.340 But it just, you know, I, I always kind of sort of, I never really kind of, um, really maybe

00:14:13.920 didn't even believe in that when I was younger, when people would talk about the energy and,

00:14:17.620 you know, Sedona's got this energy.

00:14:19.340 But, you know, I, I feel this energy out there.

00:14:22.180 That's just of the people that live there that built that place.

00:14:24.680 It's, it's, it's, and, and other places like it.

00:14:27.140 So it's kind of fun to go seek those places out, you know?

00:14:29.860 Yeah.

00:14:30.020 You'll meet a lot of women. 0.94

00:14:30.980 You're like, I never have a period when I'm in Sedona or whatever.

00:14:33.780 And you're like, well, that's, what are we talking?

00:14:36.240 I'm saying like, but there's some great, you've met a lot of women that have said that.

00:14:39.340 I mean, I just think you meet a lot of women who are, uh, you know, specific thing 0.97

00:14:43.960 for a lot of people to have said, but yeah, a lot of women are keeping crystals in the 1.00

00:14:48.040 wrong places probably, you know, but yeah, you meet a lot of wild people who are into

00:14:52.200 that sort of thing.

00:14:52.800 But I think that's probably like, I mean, the natives, it always feels to me like the 1.00

00:14:56.420 natives are probably so in touch, more in touch with the earth and locked in on like 1.00

00:15:00.040 the feeling of like the best places to be.

00:15:02.700 That's why they love to be in, in like the Dakotas and in the Black Hills and stuff like

00:15:06.120 that.

00:15:06.840 Um, and so to be able to go to one of those ruins, I bet, I bet there's still a lot of like,

00:15:11.380 um, just a lot of prehistoric or like native connection that's just looking for souls to

00:15:17.420 pass through, you know?

00:15:18.500 Yeah.

00:15:18.840 What you just said is like really interesting.

00:15:20.680 Cause I was talking to, uh, basically an archeologist the other day and you said exactly what you

00:15:25.340 just said.

00:15:25.760 Like there's this thing called, uh, um, intuitive archeology where they go, cause there's still

00:15:32.520 stuff out in the desert that people haven't even found yet.

00:15:35.640 Like it's, that's how big it is and how vast it is.

00:15:38.200 And he, so they go out into these canyons in Northern Arizona and Utah looking for signs

00:15:46.360 of, you know, ancient settlements and stuff.

00:15:48.880 And, uh, you know, they're sort of taught to intuitive archeology.

00:15:52.560 If you're in a place that feels like it would be a nice place to have lived, you know, a

00:15:57.920 beautiful place, there's a good chance you're, that feeling is correct.

00:16:03.280 And then you should sort of listen to that instinct and start looking for signs of ancient

00:16:08.600 civilization.

00:16:09.140 But it's pretty amazing because you do feel something out there.

00:16:17.440 I don't know.

00:16:17.780 I was, I was talking about this friend the other day too.

00:16:20.100 Like you ever go in like an old comedy club that's been, you know, like Zaney's in Nashville

00:16:26.240 or downtown Chicago is an old club, you know, and you see all the old pictures from the

00:16:31.340 comics from back in the seventies and eighties.

00:16:34.520 And, and it's, you know, that club's been there forever and you kind of feel the energy

00:16:39.700 of, of, you see a lot of comics that have passed away on the wall and you say, oh my God,

00:16:43.980 Sam Kinison performed here.

00:16:45.560 You know, I can sort of feel that energy of the performance in the room, you know?

00:16:52.480 So, you know, that's, that's from 40 years ago or whatever, but now you take it back to

00:16:59.300 the year 875, you're out in the desert.

00:17:01.580 And this, this place, Chaco Canyon was a whole society is like where they did trading and people

00:17:07.620 came from all over North America there.

00:17:09.380 And so it's a, it's a very peaceful thing that I do enjoy it quite a bit.

00:17:14.260 And is that something that you and your fiance have kind of something you've really, is

00:17:21.760 that something you guys have found you like doing together?

00:17:23.280 I mean, so to go camping, a lot of people would end up getting separated.

00:17:26.340 Usually I feel like this is her first time actually really coming to throughout a lot

00:17:32.240 of the United States too.

00:17:33.260 So she's, she's from Canada and hasn't been out to the desert before.

00:17:38.360 So, but she's, I mean, she's, she's, we're having fun, you know, we're having fun out

00:17:44.000 there, but it's, it's, you know, we just have, this is our first trip doing this.

00:17:48.680 So it's been cool.

00:17:50.340 Was it scary to get engaged?

00:17:54.140 Cause you've been married before.

00:17:55.760 Yeah.

00:17:56.260 Briefly.

00:17:56.700 Yeah.

00:17:56.820 I was briefly married to you.

00:17:57.780 And then.

00:17:58.700 It was a long time ago too.

00:17:59.900 Yeah.

00:18:00.060 And you hadn't been married since though.

00:18:01.540 No, no, no.

00:18:02.140 Okay.

00:18:02.600 It's the first time engaged since.

00:18:05.280 You know, no, it was not scary because.

00:18:07.340 Cause that was Drew Barrymore, right?

00:18:08.360 It's 27 in this early 2000s or something.

00:18:10.960 Yeah.

00:18:11.220 Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:11.920 Yeah.

00:18:12.540 But, um, no, it wasn't scary because Amanda's amazing, you know?

00:18:15.840 So I knew it was, uh, it was the, uh, it was the, the right thing, the, the right, this

00:18:20.700 was, this was the thing to do.

00:18:22.100 This had to be done.

00:18:23.100 So that feels like the hard decision.

00:18:24.480 Yeah.

00:18:24.620 I think that's the thing.

00:18:25.460 Like, yeah, I would like to get married, you know?

00:18:27.540 And I'm just thinking like, man, that day when you're like, all right, I guess I'm gonna

00:18:30.840 get married today.

00:18:31.720 That sounds crazy when I say that out loud, you know?

00:18:35.120 You're a young guy too.

00:18:36.080 To think that.

00:18:36.860 There was a lot of things that happened that, you know, I don't know if you want to talk

00:18:40.100 about, you know, I'm talking a lot about energy, but coincidences and synchronicity and things

00:18:45.220 like this.

00:18:45.740 I moved back to Canada, uh, and I have a pond on my property and in the winter it freezes

00:18:54.180 over and I shoveled the snow off the pond and I was playing hockey on the pond, like

00:19:00.440 skating, playing hockey on the pond.

00:19:02.280 And I shot a video of that and, uh, put it up on, uh, the social medias.

00:19:09.620 There we go.

00:19:10.200 Wow.

00:19:10.540 That's beautiful.

00:19:11.500 Here we are out of the, out of the pond.

00:19:13.260 Wow.

00:19:13.520 You got a fast guy on the draw out there on the, uh, I just literally just said that

00:19:18.560 and he instantly found, yeah, we're, we're, so we're drilling a hole in the pond here

00:19:22.900 and, and that's, and then we can pump the water out of that back on top of the pond

00:19:26.800 and give it a nice smooth, uh, icy, that's my friend, Ryan.

00:19:31.580 Oh, wait.

00:19:31.840 So what are you using here to do this?

00:19:33.100 This is a, it's just a little sort of a, kind of some sort of a ice auger or some sort.

00:19:37.720 Okay.

00:19:37.960 So that, so you take the hole and then you pump the water out.

00:19:40.480 And then we got a pump, we just stick a fire hose down in there and we pump water out of

00:19:43.120 it.

00:19:43.240 We pump it up on top of the, of the, of the ice and just basically flood the ice.

00:19:47.960 And then it freezes because at night, and then we get nice, some nice smooth ice out

00:19:51.940 there.

00:19:52.620 How long does that process take?

00:19:53.940 Uh, just a day, you know, this just took a day.

00:19:55.760 The next morning was completely, uh, completely frozen, but then you get two feet of snow

00:20:00.360 and then you got to do it all over again, but, uh, which kind of puts a damper on it.

00:20:04.500 Wow.

00:20:04.640 This is so cool.

00:20:05.500 So that right there that you're on is a lake.

00:20:07.700 It's a pond.

00:20:08.480 It's a pond.

00:20:09.080 Yeah.

00:20:09.380 Okay.

00:20:09.600 So that's a pond.

00:20:10.260 There's the docks.

00:20:10.980 Usually it's water.

00:20:12.180 Yeah.

00:20:12.460 Yeah.

00:20:12.620 It's right now you cut the holes, you're pumping the water out of the pond onto the

00:20:17.960 top of the ice, which is on the top of the pond.

00:20:20.100 Yeah.

00:20:20.600 And then it gets, it's cold, you know, it's below zero.

00:20:22.760 So then the next morning it was pretty much ready to, uh, now normally you would shovel

00:20:26.840 it off first, but we just kind of, we're kind of a little, uh, lazy about that, I guess.

00:20:31.700 And, uh, we just flooded it instead, which it ended up working out fine, but, uh, probably

00:20:35.960 would have been better if we shoveled it off first, but that seems like that would have

00:20:39.040 been a lot of work.

00:20:39.780 Yeah.

00:20:40.060 You don't need to do that.

00:20:40.920 But, um, there you go.

00:20:42.820 See, and then, uh, so, yeah, so we were doing this and then I was, I was shooting

00:20:47.840 these videos, playing hockey.

00:20:49.260 There we go.

00:20:49.800 This is the next day.

00:20:50.720 Yeah.

00:20:51.000 It's like probably the next day.

00:20:52.560 Yeah.

00:20:52.800 So this is a common practice in Canada.

00:20:54.680 Uh, well, you know, if you have a pond, I mean, that, that was the, those are the barns

00:20:58.680 in the background.

00:20:59.260 That's the, my house up there behind there.

00:21:01.420 And, um, so, you know, I, we used to do it in my backyard when I was a kid, like we

00:21:06.840 used to flood the backyard and, uh, yeah.

00:21:09.420 Gretzky talked about that.

00:21:10.640 Right.

00:21:10.960 When he was on here, he talked about flooding his backyard.

00:21:12.780 That's cool.

00:21:13.260 Yeah.

00:21:13.420 Pretty cool.

00:21:13.740 That's amazing.

00:21:14.340 The great one.

00:21:15.160 Yeah.

00:21:15.620 Yeah.

00:21:15.880 So I saw him at the inauguration, he lost a tooth.

00:21:18.980 Okay.

00:21:19.460 It fell out.

00:21:20.060 At the inauguration, he lost a tooth.

00:21:21.400 Yeah.

00:21:21.540 I chipped my tooth and I walked up to him.

00:21:23.120 I was like, man, I chipped my tooth and he's like, oh yeah.

00:21:25.160 And he showed me this and he fricking lost one.

00:21:27.500 Him and his wife were looking for it on the ground.

00:21:28.980 Oh, okay.

00:21:29.600 But it had been knocked out previously in a hockey game of some sort.

00:21:33.140 Something like that.

00:21:33.600 I think, yeah.

00:21:33.900 You didn't get punched out at the inauguration.

00:21:35.480 No.

00:21:35.820 I think he could have been shocked by some things he saw and maybe, maybe that took it out.

00:21:39.680 But yeah, he was just missing a grill piece at the inauguration.

00:21:43.000 It was just pretty bizarre.

00:21:44.140 Man.

00:21:44.300 That's cool.

00:21:44.780 Dude, that's amazing.

00:21:46.320 So these are the types of things you're spending time doing up there.

00:21:48.220 You really document it really beautifully.

00:21:49.840 And a lot of that doesn't even have a lot of audio with it.

00:21:52.000 It's really just seeing, I've noticed this in some of your videos, it's just kind of

00:21:55.160 seeing what's going on.

00:21:56.320 Yeah.

00:21:56.560 Yeah.

00:21:56.820 I kind of like to just kind of do these sort of ambient sort of things to kind of just

00:22:03.280 kind of bring you into a certain place.

00:22:05.860 I like, it's sort of like, it's like, I like photography.

00:22:08.800 This is just doing it with video and being there.

00:22:12.280 But after I posted that video, Amanda, my fiance, she saw it and she sent me a message on Instagram.

00:22:18.240 This is how we met.

00:22:19.000 And it was a video of a Zamboni, a do-it-yourself Zamboni, which is what, a Zamboni is what you

00:22:26.240 use to clean off the ice in a hockey rink, right?

00:22:28.160 Yeah.

00:22:28.260 And so it was this homemade one.

00:22:29.520 And we started, I just started talking to her because I thought it was a funny thing

00:22:32.380 to send.

00:22:32.880 And we, turns out we went to the same elementary school and yeah, it was just sort of, it was,

00:22:39.540 it was, it was just went, went from there.

00:22:42.320 So.

00:22:42.460 Cool.

00:22:42.960 Congratulations.

00:22:43.640 Yeah.

00:22:43.820 Thanks, man.

00:22:44.460 So.

00:22:45.060 And did she meet your parents yet or no?

00:22:46.560 Oh yeah.

00:22:47.100 Absolutely.

00:22:47.280 She did.

00:22:47.620 Yeah.

00:22:47.900 Absolutely.

00:22:48.380 Yeah.

00:22:48.660 Yeah.

00:22:48.840 Were your parents happy to have you back home?

00:22:50.360 What was that like?

00:22:52.180 Yeah.

00:22:52.680 No, they are for sure.

00:22:53.540 Yeah.

00:22:53.780 No, no hesitation.

00:22:54.660 They were excited for me to come home, believe it or not, you know, because sometimes people wonder,

00:22:57.800 you know, cause I used to do a lot of pranks on them.

00:23:00.120 Do they still talk to you?

00:23:01.620 You know, but, uh, my parents, uh, we were always very close, even when I was doing my

00:23:07.720 show on MTV and, you know, doing pranks on them and, you know, annoying them with the

00:23:13.140 video camera, it would sort of laugh afterwards.

00:23:15.980 And, and we've, you know, always had a very close relationship there.

00:23:20.060 They're actually in my new show on, on prime.

00:23:22.380 It, you know, it's sort of about me moving home.

00:23:25.340 Okay.

00:23:25.800 Shows about me moving home.

00:23:27.180 That's not the, I got a mule.

00:23:28.380 That's not that.

00:23:28.940 That's my standup special.

00:23:30.260 Okay.

00:23:30.360 That's the standup special.

00:23:31.240 That's on, that's on prime as well, right?

00:23:32.360 Yeah.

00:23:32.640 Yeah.

00:23:33.080 And there's a documentary on prime and then the show called Tom Green Country and, uh,

00:23:37.660 sort of, sort of about me settling in at the farm and, uh, and they're hilarious.

00:23:41.700 I mean, they, they, they really make the show.

00:23:43.660 Like there's something about their sense of humor is, is they're kind of razzing me in

00:23:49.780 the new show more than, uh, me pulling pranks on them.

00:23:52.340 I don't do that anymore.

00:23:53.220 Kind of full circle.

00:23:53.940 They've retired from being pranked.

00:23:55.660 From being a victim.

00:23:56.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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00:26:48.780 When you look back on it, do you ever, do you ever able to figure out a reason why you

00:26:52.440 liked to record things or like what you got out of like, you know, as, cause as we get

00:26:57.420 older, we, you kind of start to get a little bit of a, like a overview kind of of ourselves

00:27:02.160 even, you know, in the world, maybe a little bit, a little bit of an idea of what we have

00:27:06.860 been doing in the world.

00:27:08.180 You ever able to figure any of that out?

00:27:09.800 Kind of like the reasoning behind some of it, like why you liked capturing things or

00:27:13.960 why you liked, like pulling the wool over people's or, you know.

00:27:17.760 Yeah.

00:27:17.980 I think there was kind of a, a few layers to that for sure.

00:27:23.300 And that's a cool question.

00:27:24.240 Um, it's a great question because like, one, one thing was we never really had, you know,

00:27:33.840 you know, a video camera or, uh, you know, you know, when I was, I grew up in the eighties,

00:27:39.480 so we didn't have a video camera or even in a film cam, we didn't even take a lot of photos

00:27:44.360 and, you know, we, we, it was kind of expensive, you know, people that had a video camera, those

00:27:49.140 they had like, you know, a lot of money, they had a video camera.

00:27:51.360 We never had a video camera, you know, and so when all of a sudden they became somewhat

00:27:56.280 attainable, you know, I, I would, I would sort of sign one out at school.

00:28:01.560 Um, and I would, I found that it was kind of a, first of all, I love comedy.

00:28:09.580 So I loved, you know, David Letterman.

00:28:12.360 I love watching him go out in the street and, you know, do stuff.

00:28:15.100 And I loved, you know, Monty Python and, you know, just SCTV.

00:28:19.720 And I just loved comedy.

00:28:21.380 I was, I was, I was doing standup comedy in Ottawa when I was 16 years old.

00:28:26.420 And like, I was, would go down to watch, you know, Norm Macdonald, you know, when he was

00:28:31.000 in his twenties, you know, and I was just like, it was sort of a, this amazing thing.

00:28:35.700 And I somehow had this sort of feeling that if I could just get a video camera and go film

00:28:41.840 stuff that, you know, maybe I could, uh, you know, make a show or whatever.

00:28:47.980 But there's also a skateboarder, you know, and that was, that was sort of skateboarding

00:28:51.800 videos where, holy shit, look at this. 0.78

00:28:54.140 This is amazing. 0.98

00:28:55.500 How did you find that so fast?

00:28:57.320 Yeah.

00:28:57.460 There, me at 16 years old, uh, yuck, yucks.

00:29:00.340 Yeah.

00:29:00.820 How did you find that so fast?

00:29:01.940 I don't even know how you must've had that in advance.

00:29:03.860 That, that is unbelievable.

00:29:04.980 Is there some sort of weird algorithm here or something like that?

00:29:07.120 I don't know if they did or not, but yeah, it looks great.

00:29:09.140 Wow.

00:29:09.500 Yeah.

00:29:09.660 It looks so.

00:29:10.440 Yeah.

00:29:10.780 Look at that microphone too.

00:29:11.980 It's like, I don't even, they didn't even use the right microphone back then.

00:29:15.120 But, um, but, um, I, um, no, I just, uh, I don't know.

00:29:20.300 I often kind of like think there's something about like, I don't know.

00:29:26.620 I think I've always been really afraid of the concept of like being dead, you know, like

00:29:32.620 being gone and like there being no sort of, uh, you know, recollection of anything that

00:29:40.820 you've ever done.

00:29:42.040 Right.

00:29:42.900 And I always found it interesting to just kind of document things and just record things

00:29:49.080 and that'll be there, you know, in some electronic way floating around there forever.

00:29:53.520 And it sort of feels in a little way, like kind of like sort of a weird kind of immortality

00:29:57.660 in a way, you know?

00:29:58.340 Uh, I think that's kind of what fascinates me about these, these ruins in the desert

00:30:03.260 too.

00:30:03.580 Like these people came and built these things in the year 875 and now I'm walking through

00:30:07.280 it and looking at it and filming it and talking about it with you.

00:30:09.880 And so they're kind of in a way kind of remembered, you know?

00:30:12.620 Yeah.

00:30:13.040 Um, and then there was also just kind of the blatant, you know, when I was younger, I was

00:30:21.020 a little, quite a bit different than I am now.

00:30:23.540 I think I've calmed down quite a bit.

00:30:24.960 Like when I was younger, I really always needed to be kind of like, you know, the center of

00:30:29.960 attention, the class clown, moving around a lot.

00:30:33.220 It was, it was weird as a kid.

00:30:34.940 So to me, it seemed like a really good way of just kind of, uh, you know, documenting

00:30:40.700 all of this silliness, you know?

00:30:43.740 And, uh, and, uh, I loved it.

00:30:46.300 You know, I love filming stuff and showing it to people at school.

00:30:49.400 And it was, you captured so much. 0.96

00:30:50.660 You were one of the first people really to just capture shit and just show it to people 0.99

00:30:55.080 kind of, you know, like, kind of like not shit, but I mean, just, you know, no shit 0.99

00:30:59.480 for sure. 0.98

00:30:59.980 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:00.340 Actually actual shit was involved quite a bit. 0.99

00:31:02.380 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:02.800 Yeah.

00:31:03.360 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:03.680 We're going to capture shit and show it to you. 1.00

00:31:05.560 What do you mean? 1.00

00:31:06.360 Like, this is what we mean.

00:31:07.920 And I can totally relate to what you said about, um, dude, I used to, when I was, I

00:31:13.820 guess, probably turning around 20 to probably 28, I would make postcards and I would send

00:31:20.400 them to my kids.

00:31:21.080 They weren't even born yet.

00:31:21.960 Like whenever I was traveling somewhere, I would send them, I would make them out to

00:31:25.700 my kids.

00:31:26.080 I just wanted my kids to know that I'd been, I needed there to be some record that I like

00:31:32.940 cared about my children, even though they weren't here yet, which is kind of a crazy thing,

00:31:37.020 but it made me think about what you're saying.

00:31:38.580 Like, and I would scrapbook, I would save things.

00:31:41.160 Like I just wanted there to be like some proof that I felt something in the world and that

00:31:47.200 I existed.

00:31:47.940 Right.

00:31:48.240 I think I just didn't, I don't know if I just didn't have a lot of that, like, or I needed

00:31:53.640 an insane amount of proof.

00:31:56.260 And so that's why I did it.

00:31:57.400 But yeah, I could just rely, I could definitely relate to that, to wanting to have some, uh,

00:32:04.140 timeline.

00:32:05.280 Yeah.

00:32:05.640 So I, you know, just in case time ever showed up and said, Hey, were you here?

00:32:10.080 I could buy, well, yeah, yeah.

00:32:12.160 Yes.

00:32:12.600 Here I was, you know, I could show you my homework kind of, or something, you know?

00:32:16.860 Absolutely.

00:32:17.540 Yeah.

00:32:17.840 I can relate to that.

00:32:18.980 Cause I talk a little bit, my standup special about, about not having kids.

00:32:22.940 And I sometimes think it's kind of a bit of a message to my future children, uh, that,

00:32:28.960 you know, uh, that I'm aware that I haven't had them yet, you know?

00:32:32.940 And, uh, so I totally understand what you're saying about that.

00:32:35.880 It's, uh, yeah, I mean, it's, it's a weird thing, you know, because right.

00:32:42.960 20 years ago, nobody had definitely 30 years ago.

00:32:47.200 Nobody had video cameras really like they do now, but now everybody with their phones,

00:32:51.780 everything documented.

00:32:52.680 It's so normal now, but I just put this documentary up on prime, which is, it's called, this is

00:33:00.580 the Tom Green documentary.

00:33:01.580 It's sort of a play on my old theme song on my show.

00:33:03.740 This is the Tom Green show was this was the song, right?

00:33:06.460 Yeah.

00:33:06.660 So, um, I, uh, went through like thousands of hours of video.

00:33:14.000 I'm going back looking at, you know, 17 year old me running around doing stuff.

00:33:18.340 And, uh, it was, it was actually kind of a pretty, um, somewhat terrifying experience

00:33:26.900 actually, because it was like this opportunity to kind of tell the story of everything that

00:33:33.240 happened with my show and everything that happened with my experience here in LA.

00:33:37.080 And I, I wanted to kind of, uh, you know, tell the story, right.

00:33:41.340 And I've got so much video and combing through all of it was at times, you know, uh, somewhat

00:33:50.800 kind of like, I would be looking at myself, like I'm looking at a completely different

00:33:54.220 person and I can't even believe, you know, I'm finding things I don't even remember

00:33:59.500 happening. 0.98

00:34:00.700 And I'm looking at things that are just so completely bonkers and silly and ridiculous. 0.97

00:34:06.260 I'm like, Whoa, I like, sometimes I couldn't look at the TV. 0.97

00:34:09.420 I'm like, Oh my God, what was I doing?

00:34:11.080 You know, you know, you made us feel.

00:34:13.240 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:13.980 It was, I was doing it to myself 20 years, 30 years later.

00:34:17.480 And, uh, no, I wouldn't recommend it to anybody to, to go make a documentary about yourself.

00:34:22.060 Definitely hire somebody to do that and never watch it.

00:34:24.640 But no, it was, it was fun because I wanted to tell the story the right way.

00:34:29.000 But, but, um, it was also kind of very surreal, but, you know,

00:34:33.740 Was it hard to be true to yourself making like, you know, making your own documentary and,

00:34:37.320 and no one should probably make your documentary except for you.

00:34:40.280 Cause you're one of the rare cases.

00:34:41.740 It feels like that has so much has documented themselves so much, you know, like, um, and

00:34:48.760 I don't even know if it's, I don't know if it seemed like an egotistical way.

00:34:52.860 I don't think it ever came across like that of your footage.

00:34:54.820 It just came across that you wanted to have control over how of yourself, you wanted to

00:35:00.780 put yourself out there.

00:35:02.400 Um, but was it hard to make a documentary and not want to like make yourself the hero

00:35:07.640 or something?

00:35:08.160 Or I don't, I've never made a documentary before.

00:35:09.900 Yeah.

00:35:10.200 Yeah.

00:35:10.520 Or was there any of that in it or how do I make this?

00:35:12.900 It's like the first scene of the documentary, I'm sitting with my mother and she actually

00:35:16.520 says, are you really supposed to do it, direct a documentary about yourself?

00:35:19.700 I mean, can't you kind of whitewash that a little bit?

00:35:22.000 Are you going to do that?

00:35:22.580 Yeah, I'm going to do that.

00:35:23.300 So, but, um, honestly the, I wanted to be, uh, you know, I wanted to be, I didn't not

00:35:32.920 want to completely like, you know, put a false story out there.

00:35:36.240 So I think the hardest part was trying to figure out how to not be too self deprecating, you

00:35:43.460 know, because, you know, you think, you know, you know, when you get to my age, uh, you know,

00:35:48.920 you look back and you think, oh my God, I wish I hadn't done that.

00:35:51.460 Or I wish I hadn't done that, or I shouldn't have said that, or shouldn't have done that.

00:35:54.160 And, you know, I have a lot of those things, right?

00:35:55.920 They're constantly rattling around in my head and you start to think like, you know, man,

00:36:01.780 maybe this is a good way for me to go and just like apologize for everything that I perceived

00:36:06.820 that I've done wrong in my life.

00:36:08.680 Right.

00:36:09.560 And then you have to kind of take a step back and go, well, wait a minute, you know, like

00:36:12.740 that might just be in my head, you know?

00:36:14.540 So I spent a lot of time talking to a lot of people about, you know, people that I know,

00:36:20.120 people I'm close with about the story of, really, it's the story of the, of the show.

00:36:26.600 And, uh, and takes us through the story of kind of creating the show and then building,

00:36:31.840 you know, before the show with my music.

00:36:34.560 And then after the show with building a, you know, a sort of a web TV studio, right?

00:36:40.660 In my, in here in Los Angeles.

00:36:42.180 And it's sort of a telling of that story, but then I wanted to talk, you know, a bit

00:36:46.760 about some of the, uh, you know, personal sort of, uh, you know, uh, things that I went

00:36:52.480 through.

00:36:52.940 I mean, I had cancer when I was on MTV and I talked about that.

00:36:57.320 I had, you know, I made, I made this movie, Freddie Got Fingered, which was, you know,

00:37:00.760 not critically, completely embraced.

00:37:06.200 So, you know, so it's like, I wanted, I wanted to explain myself a bit, but then, uh, you

00:37:12.740 know, at the same time, there's a lot of people now that like the movie, believe it or not.

00:37:15.600 So I didn't want to completely, you know, and hate the critics.

00:37:18.800 Yeah.

00:37:19.040 Yeah.

00:37:19.240 So it's sort of like, it was a very tricky balancing act.

00:37:24.280 And, uh, and then on, on top of that, there's just so much footage and so many weird little

00:37:28.300 funny clips that only I know are the ones that people like, or people have or haven't

00:37:33.500 seen.

00:37:33.840 And I kind of wanted to make sense of that all and piece it all together.

00:37:36.420 I don't think anyone else would have been able to find it all, you know?

00:37:39.200 Yeah.

00:37:39.640 So, but, uh, was there a project that you kind of wanted to do over the years that you

00:37:44.500 didn't really nail or you didn't that something that didn't happen?

00:37:49.300 Was there something?

00:37:49.980 Cause you've just done so much stuff.

00:37:51.460 I mean, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's interesting.

00:37:55.540 Cause like, in fact, that's part of what the documentary is about.

00:37:59.580 Cause like when I was, uh, got into making the show when I was growing up, all I could

00:38:07.300 even imagine myself doing was I wanted to be a talk show host.

00:38:11.360 You know, I want to do basically a show like David Letterman, right?

00:38:14.240 Have guests on. 0.64

00:38:15.280 And then I go out in the street and, you know, be a nutcase, you know, do goofy stuff. 0.93

00:38:19.300 Right.

00:38:19.500 And, uh, I got to do that, you know, a few times over the years and, um, you know, when

00:38:27.040 those shows go away, you know, initially when that happened, you know, that was back in the

00:38:31.760 day of MTV, you know, the first show I stopped when I, when I got sick.

00:38:34.920 So, you know, it didn't actually get canceled, the Tom Green show.

00:38:37.800 But then when I started, I did a nightly show, it kind of, you know, when it kind of got canceled,

00:38:43.360 I was thinking, oh my gosh, you know, this is the worst thing that could ever happen to

00:38:48.120 me that I could ever imagine that I'm not going to be able to do a nightly talk show.

00:38:55.200 You know, like this just was like, this was devastating to me, you know?

00:38:58.420 And as time marches on and I look at all the things that I've done instead, you know,

00:39:05.460 into, you know, touring, doing standup or, or moving back to the farm and, uh, and, and,

00:39:11.560 and everything in between, I kind of realized, man, I'm kind of, kind of glad that actually

00:39:17.280 didn't work out because I, if it, if it, if it, if that, if that show had been a big

00:39:20.760 hit, then I would have been going down to the same studio every night for the last 30

00:39:23.700 years and I wouldn't have gotten to do all these other things, you know? 1.00

00:39:25.860 So, so, you know, Freddie got fingered, of course, was a idiotic movie, you know, purposefully 1.00

00:39:35.000 so. 1.00

00:39:35.640 Yeah.

00:39:35.840 Did you guys make that yourselves?

00:39:37.200 Yeah.

00:39:37.460 I wrote it with my friend, Derek, and we, I directed it.

00:39:40.800 You did?

00:39:41.180 Was it your first time you'd ever directed a movie?

00:39:42.860 It was, yeah.

00:39:43.580 Wow.

00:39:44.140 It was, but it was, we had a budget, you know, it was 20th Century Fox.

00:39:47.280 We had, you know, cause the show was doing good on MTV.

00:39:49.940 So they, uh, they let me direct it, you know, they let me do that, which was, um, you know,

00:39:55.160 probably a mistake, but no, they, uh, no, it was, uh, you know, we really pushed it to

00:39:59.080 make it like, we were, you know, we were in our twenties, you know?

00:40:01.560 So the, the idea was let's make this the craziest movie ever made.

00:40:05.180 You know, it's literally, we actually believed that we could do something like that, you

00:40:08.080 know?

00:40:08.200 Um, and, um, and, uh, so it, it gets complicated cause then, you know, how do you define failure?

00:40:15.320 You know, like it's, it, it, it came out Roger Ebert and, uh, it wasn't Siskel.

00:40:22.040 It was the other guy.

00:40:23.380 He had another guy there.

00:40:24.360 Oh yeah.

00:40:24.380 The second string.

00:40:25.040 Ebert and Roper.

00:40:25.540 Yeah.

00:40:25.640 Ebert and Roper.

00:40:26.300 They sent that guy in.

00:40:27.340 Yeah.

00:40:27.600 Even he didn't like it.

00:40:29.020 Um, but even Roper didn't like it.

00:40:30.760 I mean, it wasn't even Siskel.

00:40:31.880 It was, it was Roper, whoever that guy was.

00:40:33.600 But it was, they, uh, they, uh, you know, trashed it.

00:40:36.160 And, uh, you're kind of thinking at the time, man, this is devastating, you know, uh, Ebert

00:40:39.440 and Roper are trashing my film, you know, but, um, and, and you think, oh, you start

00:40:45.380 to question, you know, what every sort of choice you've made, you know?

00:40:48.480 I don't know.

00:40:48.900 This guy looks like he also likes canned sardines at the same time.

00:40:51.640 So, and it is, these days who would, nobody even trust the critics anyway.

00:40:55.360 So it's kind of funny now that it's like, yeah.

00:40:58.020 At the time, like it was the end of, you know, the line.

00:41:02.660 If these guys trashed your movie.

00:41:04.400 Oh yeah.

00:41:05.040 It's like my first movie and, and it was every, all this stuff riding on it.

00:41:08.680 And then these come on, just destroyed it.

00:41:10.440 And I remember just sitting there like watching this, just thinking, oh my gosh, this is it.

00:41:14.800 You know, this is the end.

00:41:15.660 But you know, it's, it wasn't, you know, I just kept going, kept doing my thing.

00:41:18.360 And, uh, and you look back at it and go, it's kind of funny now that they, they didn't

00:41:22.500 like it, you know?

00:41:23.340 Yeah.

00:41:23.660 It's kind of awesome that they didn't.

00:41:25.520 It's weird.

00:41:26.060 Cause there's a weird sort of counterintuitiveness to it.

00:41:28.840 Cause we set out to make a movie that those guys would not like.

00:41:32.440 And then when they don't like it, you're upset about it.

00:41:35.040 Yeah.

00:41:35.240 It's like, I kind of thought that they would sort of see the irony and go, I know we're

00:41:39.160 not supposed to like this, but actually this kid's pretty clever.

00:41:42.220 You know?

00:41:42.480 No, no, no.

00:41:42.800 They didn't say that, you know?

00:41:44.900 What was the budget on that movie?

00:41:46.340 Do you remember?

00:41:47.520 $14 million.

00:41:49.160 Wow.

00:41:49.540 They spent on that.

00:41:50.520 Plus an additional 10 on, uh, you know, promotion and marketing and stuff.

00:41:54.560 Yeah.

00:41:54.620 And you know what?

00:41:55.560 I will say it made it all back on DVD.

00:41:58.040 Remember DVD?

00:41:58.820 Yeah.

00:41:58.980 Remember they used to put DVDs out?

00:42:00.140 So I think I've heard it made 35 million on DVD.

00:42:03.420 So it actually was a profitable movie.

00:42:06.200 Yeah.

00:42:06.520 Made 14 million at the box.

00:42:08.180 I'm here defending it now.

00:42:09.120 It made its money back.

00:42:10.140 No.

00:42:10.620 It made its money back.

00:42:11.740 No, but it did.

00:42:12.240 So it did make its money back.

00:42:13.940 But, you know, Ebert and Roper aren't going to tell you that though.

00:42:17.760 Yeah.

00:42:18.080 They're not going to tell you that.

00:42:19.060 Well, it wasn't the Titanic, you know?

00:42:20.680 No.

00:42:20.960 No, exactly.

00:42:21.600 It was.

00:42:21.900 I mean, it was in a way, but in the sense that it, you know, it bombed.

00:42:27.520 But, you know, no, it was, it was, uh, it's funny.

00:42:30.580 It's funny though, because you did it though.

00:42:32.320 There was a long period of time there where I was made to feel like it was a really bad

00:42:36.320 decision.

00:42:36.740 And then in the last like 10 years, it's like, you know, all I hear are people saying

00:42:43.720 they love it.

00:42:44.300 You know, someone today showed me they had an x-ray cat tattoo, you know, like it's a

00:42:48.820 character in the movie, you know?

00:42:50.260 So it's like, um, it's, it is a little confusing when you talk about sort of, uh, I mean, your

00:42:55.460 question was how do you handle things like failure and things like that?

00:42:58.520 It's like, you know, it's kind of, uh, the more of those kinds of things you go through,

00:43:04.380 the more you kind of learn to kind of embrace it in a way.

00:43:07.480 It's kind of a, it's almost a good thing, you know?

00:43:10.200 Yeah.

00:43:10.660 David Spade and I just wrote a movie together, not to name drop or anything, but we did and

00:43:15.040 we just funded ourselves and stuff.

00:43:17.340 And so it's just kind of a scary time.

00:43:19.500 I think so.

00:43:19.900 That's why I'm asking that as well.

00:43:21.320 Not scary.

00:43:21.900 It's, it's exciting too, but it's also like, yeah, I just one day I'll be like, I, that's

00:43:26.340 something I tried to do.

00:43:27.160 I was trying to be creative and we tried our best and I got to try it with, you know, somebody

00:43:32.940 who I love to watch anyway.

00:43:35.020 And that's cool.

00:43:35.660 So you've written it.

00:43:36.220 Are you going to go make the movie?

00:43:37.320 We have five days left shooting.

00:43:38.740 Oh, you're shooting the movie already.

00:43:39.860 We shoot.

00:43:40.320 We start back tomorrow.

00:43:41.380 Kind of like a Joe dirt two, three kind of thing or a, yeah, it's like, um, no, it's a

00:43:46.720 good question.

00:43:47.320 It's like two guys.

00:43:49.580 One of them gets hit by a vehicle.

00:43:51.000 I get, my character gets hit by a car when he's young and Spade, uh, rescues me and he

00:43:59.380 and I become friends in and he gets me a job years later.

00:44:01.860 We're working together like at a sewage company and, um, repo man, man kind of thing.

00:44:06.940 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:07.040 Type of shit. 1.00

00:44:08.000 Well, you know, you have, the thing is that you're, you're in good hands here cause you're 1.00

00:44:11.080 with a guy that's done this a lot before.

00:44:14.040 He's done it a lot.

00:44:14.660 And it's sort of a season.

00:44:15.720 Kind of like, if I had to direct it to, like, I like to like chime in with the director

00:44:19.740 and stuff like that and throw in ideas and stuff like that.

00:44:22.700 And, uh, but it's just definitely a big learning curve.

00:44:25.280 It's a lot.

00:44:26.120 Yeah.

00:44:26.400 So I can't imagine, especially in our budget, it's just a couple million bucks.

00:44:29.700 So if it were really big, that'd be really, I feel like it'd be scary kind of.

00:44:33.360 Yeah.

00:44:33.680 I mean, back then we were shooting on film.

00:44:35.640 Oh yeah.

00:44:36.000 Things cost more, um, you know, it was, it was at the time was considered a low budget

00:44:41.780 movie.

00:44:42.140 Right.

00:44:42.500 But, uh, but, um, you know, I think, I think that, uh, I don't know, it just seems like

00:44:49.420 the way things get released these days and the ways people embrace weirdness these days,

00:44:57.520 like I'm assuming it's kind of a weird movie.

00:45:01.000 Yeah.

00:45:01.120 It's odd.

00:45:01.580 Yeah.

00:45:01.940 It's just funny.

00:45:02.700 It's just like old school funny.

00:45:04.140 Yeah.

00:45:04.540 So like a funny movie, right.

00:45:06.000 Like, you know, you have this incredible thing going with your show here, so you have your

00:45:11.480 audience built in, so you, you don't really have to worry about the same things that maybe

00:45:16.040 back in the day when you put out something crazy and sort of in a sea of somewhat normal

00:45:21.680 movies coming out every weekend, all getting funneled through this sort of mainstream, you

00:45:28.560 know, cinema, you know, release system.

00:45:31.000 Right, this conglomerate, yeah.

00:45:31.640 It's very strange, you know, like we had to take the movie and focus group it.

00:45:36.360 Oh, wow.

00:45:36.740 And then people would sit there with pads and it was in Phoenix.

00:45:40.480 We went to, we flew down to Phoenix to focus group.

00:45:42.480 Freddie got fingered.

00:45:42.680 That's what they do a lot of them, huh?

00:45:43.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:44.360 For some reason they do them there in Phoenix and, uh, you know, and, and, and like, you

00:45:49.480 know, then, then someone stands up after the movie and asks them what, what they didn't

00:45:53.200 like about the movie.

00:45:54.080 Well, with, you know, Freddie got fingered.

00:45:55.220 I mean, we're sort of, you're sort of supposed to not like any of these scenes.

00:45:59.200 You're supposed to be, you know, kind of polarizing.

00:46:01.600 Yes.

00:46:02.220 So it didn't really kind of work with the focus group system and then you had to make

00:46:06.540 changes to it and all that kind of stuff.

00:46:08.440 But you're probably, you guys probably are, have a lot more creative control over things.

00:46:13.200 I think we'll just make a trailer and put it out.

00:46:15.080 Yeah.

00:46:15.300 You know, I'm guessing I have no idea.

00:46:17.320 I'm just, uh, I haven't, part of my brain hasn't even gotten to that thought, that thought

00:46:21.080 yet, you know, but it's, it's definitely feels kind of, yeah, it feels like, just like, well,

00:46:27.340 I wanted to, you know, we tried to do it.

00:46:29.320 Who knows what will happen?

00:46:30.140 You know?

00:46:30.420 Oh, it's going to be awesome.

00:46:31.580 Absolutely.

00:46:32.240 You in spade.

00:46:32.880 I'm going to go see that.

00:46:33.780 That's incredible.

00:46:34.120 Thanks.

00:46:34.620 I appreciate it, man.

00:46:35.400 Everybody will.

00:46:36.080 Everybody's going to love that.

00:46:37.100 It's going to be interesting.

00:46:38.300 Yeah.

00:46:38.520 That's what I'll say.

00:46:39.680 Um, that's what I do.

00:46:41.520 Yeah.

00:46:41.700 I do believe that it'll be interesting.

00:46:43.020 Of course it will.

00:46:43.640 Um, how did you deal whenever there were tough times?

00:46:46.340 Like, because you had so much of like recording yourself, like setting, you know, like kind

00:46:50.840 of like living under your own recording schedule and stuff like that.

00:46:54.820 Were there days off?

00:46:55.760 Like when you, um, would just have your show from home, right?

00:46:59.060 Was there days where you would just like take off?

00:47:01.960 What was that shoot schedule?

00:47:02.880 Like when you were.

00:47:04.020 When I was doing the web show at home?

00:47:06.920 Well, I mean, it was, so there wasn't really.

00:47:12.840 Any sort of, uh, podcasting yet wasn't really a thing really, right?

00:47:18.660 So, so we built the studio and it would basically just stream to my website.

00:47:23.720 I mean, there was no Instagram yet.

00:47:25.400 YouTube had just started.

00:47:27.340 Um, and people would come and watch it on the front page of, of tomgreen.com.

00:47:31.940 Um, and we actually had like a company in San Francisco that made like the, the video playback

00:47:38.420 system, you know, so it was CDN content distribution network.

00:47:42.020 It was basically, so we would upload a video to that.

00:47:44.260 We, there was, we weren't uploading it to YouTube and linking it or there was, there was no YouTube

00:47:47.980 really.

00:47:49.220 So, so it was kind of just a big sort of science experiment that I was doing with, uh, you know,

00:47:57.580 my group of friends.

00:47:58.980 Um, and, you know, I, I had, uh, I had the sort of goal of trying to sort of make it a

00:48:10.940 show that would become profitable, get advertisers and maybe sell it to television, which we did

00:48:16.200 a little bit of that, you know?

00:48:17.320 Um, so, you know, I was kind of, um, pretty driven, I guess.

00:48:23.000 And it's kind of what I noticed now with like podcasting, which is amazing is like, you know,

00:48:28.820 the people that have these incredible businesses that they've got going, these incredible,

00:48:33.740 you know, artistic visions they have for themselves, they're all kind of have that same kind of

00:48:37.980 drive in them.

00:48:39.020 You know, they get up in the morning, their mind is just like, how are we going to make

00:48:42.980 this better today?

00:48:43.900 You know, how are we going to make this awesome today?

00:48:45.300 You know?

00:48:45.440 So it was kind of, it was kind of like that, you know, we were getting up and turning on

00:48:51.480 the studio every night and I'd be inviting up, you know, rappers and Too Short came up

00:48:58.180 and, you know, Jurassic Five and Exhibit and then, you know, you'd wrap up comedian, invite

00:49:03.500 comedians up and like Joe Rogan would come over and, you know, Norm MacDonald, who I became

00:49:08.340 good friends with, you know, would start coming over all the time and, you know, literally

00:49:13.540 like hundreds and hundreds of people would come over and it became this kind of really

00:49:16.900 fun thing to do.

00:49:19.160 Um, I wasn't doing standup at the time.

00:49:22.460 I hadn't done standup in years.

00:49:24.320 So I was really just doing that. 0.76

00:49:26.840 And, um, you know, it was, it was ridiculous.

00:49:32.000 I mean, we were just enjoying the absurdity of it.

00:49:35.300 And, um...

00:49:35.620 Oh, yeah.

00:49:35.960 Was it so stressful?

00:49:37.540 Or were you just...

00:49:38.360 It was because I put pressure on myself and I would actually get stressed out about it.

00:49:42.440 And then we would have people that would prank call us.

00:49:45.340 So I had this phone system on the desk and you could just call it and it would ring and

00:49:49.520 I'd hit answer.

00:49:50.240 And so we had like, you know, people trolling us basically.

00:49:54.400 I remember getting Rick rolled for the first time, you know, and I was like, and it was

00:49:57.420 like, oh, I've kind of felt like, I don't know if I'd ever heard of Rick rolling before

00:50:00.920 I got Rick rolled, you know?

00:50:01.940 Oh, yeah.

00:50:02.500 And, um...

00:50:03.300 It's cool.

00:50:03.980 And it became kind of like a little bit of a game, you know, like where we were...

00:50:08.100 There was a switch that I'd built with, uh, uh, Bill Schnitzer was his name.

00:50:14.240 He worked there.

00:50:14.940 And, uh, Victor, a couple of the guys that worked there.

00:50:18.380 And, uh, we built the switch under the desk.

00:50:21.540 It was like metal.

00:50:23.080 And it was like we got a metal box with a switch and we had wires and we soldered them together.

00:50:28.080 And then the wires ran out to the computer.

00:50:30.460 And then Bill was able to program the computer so that when, like, I flipped that switch,

00:50:38.100 it would, like, if everything was off, it's the middle of the night in my house.

00:50:43.880 It's quiet night.

00:50:45.280 Nobody there.

00:50:46.720 And if I were to get up at one o'clock in the morning by myself and put clown makeup on,

00:50:52.380 which I often did, and, and, and a top hat and walk out into my living room and flick

00:50:57.320 the switch, the switch would turn on the lights, would turn on the cameras, would turn on the

00:51:01.700 computers.

00:51:02.740 This computer would tell this computer to start recording.

00:51:04.960 Uh, the phone system would turn on.

00:51:08.220 It would send it to the front page of my website.

00:51:10.380 Just one switch.

00:51:11.160 I haven't done anything.

00:51:11.840 I just, all I've, all I've done is put on some clown makeup and flipped a switch, right?

00:51:14.960 You don't have to put on the clown makeup, but I did do that often.

00:51:17.480 Oh, yeah, you better. 0.74

00:51:18.100 It was called the French clown of midnight. 0.94

00:51:19.440 I'd speak in French in a clown makeup. 0.97

00:51:22.080 Um, and you wonder why it didn't work out.

00:51:23.940 But, um, and, uh, but, uh, and, uh, then the phone would start ringing and I'd just be

00:51:27.900 doing the show.

00:51:28.480 I'd have a switcher on the desk so I could switch the cameras and, uh, I would just start

00:51:32.200 taking calls and it was really the only live video on the internet.

00:51:38.400 Like, really?

00:51:39.060 Like, that's, there was no Instagram live or anything.

00:51:41.280 So it was like, you know, you imagine when I was a kid, I wanted to do, I like prank

00:51:46.300 calling the radio station.

00:51:47.700 Oh, yeah.

00:51:47.840 Like, I'd like to call into the radio station.

00:51:49.640 And, uh, I would call into the radio station and I'd record it.

00:51:53.840 And then I'd call into the radio station and I'd pretend I was like my friend's father.

00:51:58.460 And I'd call and I'd start complaining about my son and I'd use his name and I'd play the

00:52:01.900 tape back to him.

00:52:02.540 And it was hilarious to me, you know?

00:52:04.340 And, um, so I loved that, like pranking a radio station.

00:52:10.580 And I kind of started to realize, like, we're the only live show on the internet right now

00:52:15.980 with a phone with no call screener.

00:52:19.960 All these people like me around the world could now call in and prank me, you know?

00:52:26.400 And so we kind of got into this little sort of war, basically, you know, which is, which

00:52:31.720 was fun because I would get angry about it.

00:52:35.660 But then also I kind of didn't have to turn the phone on, you know, um, so it was, it was,

00:52:43.300 it was really fun.

00:52:44.040 And, you know, I got to meet a lot of great people, you know, I mean, that's where I really

00:52:48.240 got to hang out with, you know, Joe Rogan for the first time, really.

00:52:52.140 And, uh, and Norm, who I became really close with and, and so many other people.

00:52:57.040 And, you know, it was, it was, it was amazing.

00:52:59.300 So did Norm, um, did you talk to him much in the later years?

00:53:03.360 Yeah.

00:53:04.520 Well, at the, at the very end, I did not know that he was sick.

00:53:07.880 I didn't know he was sick.

00:53:08.760 So that was, that was, uh.

00:53:10.420 Seemed like he kept that from everybody.

00:53:11.740 Yeah.

00:53:11.960 And he's from my hometown.

00:53:13.220 He's from Ottawa, Canada.

00:53:15.240 And he started at the same comedy club that I started at, at Yuck Yucks in Ottawa.

00:53:19.140 Howard Wagman, who's the, uh, still owns the comedy club in Ottawa.

00:53:24.960 Uh, Yuck Yucks, which is like all across Canada.

00:53:26.780 It's kind of like the improv of Canada.

00:53:28.180 I've heard of it.

00:53:29.000 I've been at one of them, I think.

00:53:30.140 Yeah.

00:53:30.480 Yeah.

00:53:30.620 And so he's, you know, he's awesome.

00:53:32.840 And, you know, he, you know, he put Norm on the stage for the first time and, uh, you know,

00:53:37.620 tells his story about how Norm got off stage the very first time he did stand up.

00:53:40.940 He was in his twenties and he didn't think he did well.

00:53:43.240 And he was walking down the street.

00:53:44.500 I'm never going to do that again.

00:53:45.520 And Howard chased him down Spark Street in Ottawa and stopped and said, you got to come

00:53:49.500 back tomorrow.

00:53:50.020 And, you know, he made him come back because he saw, he saw his, uh, his genius.

00:53:54.780 Right.

00:53:55.400 Yeah.

00:53:55.540 And nobody was like him.

00:53:56.480 Um, they just had a, they were just talking about him.

00:53:58.600 Uh, I just watched the SNL monologue that he did one time.

00:54:01.460 Yeah.

00:54:01.760 That was pretty great where he's like, they fired me from the show, but now they want

00:54:05.600 me back, you know?

00:54:06.980 Yeah.

00:54:07.480 Which is, and how it just didn't even make any, make any sense. 0.99

00:54:11.040 And he just kind of shit on the show. 0.99

00:54:12.540 Yeah. 1.00

00:54:12.860 Um, it was weird.

00:54:14.580 Like, cause like, it's weird.

00:54:17.440 Like I find myself sometimes now talking about 2005, like it was like 50 years ago or something

00:54:23.600 like that, but it really is.

00:54:25.100 Things have changed so much in the last 20 years with social media that it does really

00:54:31.240 feel like kind of a different world.

00:54:33.760 Like I remember Norm would come up.

00:54:35.840 Yeah.

00:54:36.320 And you know, the first time he came up, I just couldn't believe I was going to hang out

00:54:39.940 with them, you know, and hang out with them for two hours on camera, um, sort of in some

00:54:47.640 ways kind of doing a make believe talk show, even though there were people watching, it

00:54:51.320 was kind of like, you know, experimental talk show and he was getting into that.

00:54:57.120 And then the show would end and we'd go, you know, on YouTube and go look at videos.

00:55:03.620 And I was like, I remember it was like, YouTube was so new that it was just the strangest thing.

00:55:09.200 I'd be sitting with Norm MacDonald after doing this for two hours.

00:55:12.000 And we'd sit in there watching, you know, crazy clips that he would find, uh, you know,

00:55:18.380 like baby versus Cobra, you know, with the Cobra's mouth sewed together.

00:55:22.940 Those are good.

00:55:23.720 Yeah.

00:55:23.820 Grape lady falls.

00:55:25.360 I remember watching these videos with Norm and just dying of laughter, you know, in the

00:55:31.340 middle of the night and just thinking, this is, this is cool.

00:55:33.400 Now it's just so normal to look at viral videos and stuff.

00:55:36.020 But back then we thought we were just, have you ever seen this video?

00:55:38.400 I've never seen this.

00:55:39.200 Oh man.

00:55:39.720 This is, I mean, it's a little bit, you kind of, can you play the audio too?

00:55:42.740 Is it possible?

00:55:43.180 Because the audio is sort of important for this one.

00:55:46.600 These are filled with Chamberson grapes and the winner this Saturday is some music, eating

00:55:51.620 international foods, having wine tours and tasting, vineyard tours, seminars, arts and crafts.

00:55:58.200 It's a lot of fun, a whole day.

00:55:59.720 Stop.

00:56:00.080 Oh, I can't.

00:56:07.080 Ow, ow, ow. 1.00

00:56:08.240 Stop.

00:56:08.980 Oh, stop.

00:56:09.760 Oh, I can't breathe.

00:56:13.820 Stop.

00:56:16.280 Oh, no.

00:56:18.880 So, yeah.

00:56:20.660 Yeah.

00:56:21.380 Ouch.

00:56:22.060 Ouch.

00:56:22.600 They're struggling.

00:56:23.100 And that lady has a smallest head as well. 1.00

00:56:27.340 If people's heads are real small, they should not talk a lot.

00:56:32.020 I love that.

00:56:32.760 That's the, that's your takeaway for this is her head size as well. 1.00

00:56:35.780 It is true though, by the way, I'd never noticed that.

00:56:37.820 But that lady is a very small head. 1.00

00:56:39.380 When people with small heads talk a lot, it feels like they're, they're cheating the system 0.58

00:56:44.320 a little bit.

00:56:44.700 I just feel like a regular head, you get a regular amount of words, small head, less

00:56:49.720 words, don't over, don't do too much.

00:56:52.980 Right.

00:56:53.220 Or just, or at least just talk in sort of the amount of words that your head should justify,

00:56:59.420 your head size should justify.

00:57:00.260 Yes. 0.99

00:57:00.720 Don't be a crazy little head just doing a bunch. 0.97

00:57:04.080 Yeah. 0.97

00:57:04.260 I dated a girl one time for a while with a small head, beautiful girl, great girl, but

00:57:09.680 knew when to talk, when not to talk.

00:57:11.920 You wouldn't see her just yammering on like some big head, you know, so I look in.

00:57:18.680 Did you notice right away that she had a particularly small head or was that something that sort of

00:57:22.420 dawned on you later?

00:57:23.460 She had big hair, big kind of Italian-ish hair and every now and then I would feel her 0.83

00:57:28.960 head and I was like, oh, I feel like there should be a little more head here, you know?

00:57:32.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:32.680 So once you got under the, the hair was puffed out, probably purposefully, we probably knew

00:57:36.740 that her head was small.

00:57:37.960 It was an SBA, it was a mirage.

00:57:39.760 Yeah.

00:57:40.700 Hiding it a little bit.

00:57:41.560 Probably a little self-conscious of it.

00:57:43.420 Yeah.

00:57:43.880 Could have been.

00:57:45.140 But yeah, cool girl, small head, but knew how to use it, right? 0.98

00:57:50.980 Yeah.

00:57:51.360 Not somebody that was ambivalent to their head size and is just running around just squawking

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00:59:56.000 Did you, um, yeah, what'd I do?

00:59:58.860 Oh, yeah, I just went to the SNL 50th, dude.

01:00:00.500 I just went to that SNL 50th.

01:00:01.100 Oh, yeah, that's amazing.

01:00:02.140 Yeah, I know.

01:00:02.880 That must have, was that incredible?

01:00:04.140 It was cool.

01:00:04.560 You got to host it.

01:00:05.680 I did.

01:00:06.020 I know, that's amazing.

01:00:06.920 I was on tour.

01:00:07.700 I wasn't able to go.

01:00:08.480 I would have loved to have gone to that.

01:00:09.580 That must have been wild.

01:00:10.340 I went to the 40th, and I remember that was, that is just the most surreal thing.

01:00:17.420 If it's anything, I imagine it was, like, just everybody is there, right?

01:00:21.760 Yeah, I'll get to go to the music night, and then I'm buddies with Louis C.K.

01:00:27.260 He took me to Chris Rock's birthday party.

01:00:30.880 Oh, nice.

01:00:31.560 On Saturday night, which was crazy, because Chris Rock is always, like, my favorite comedian

01:00:35.180 growing up, and so just to even be able to be there, I definitely felt, like, out of

01:00:39.640 place or whatever, but it was also cool, you know, just to, like, you know, kind of fly

01:00:43.840 on the wall there.

01:00:44.780 So did you do really actually feel out of place there?

01:00:47.240 Yeah, 100%.

01:00:47.860 And why do you think that is?

01:00:49.160 Just, like, it feels, like, kind of fancy, you know?

01:00:52.000 I mean, I could tell right when I saw Chris Rock how I felt.

01:00:55.260 Like, some people, you don't get nervous on them, or you've seen them a couple times, and

01:00:58.400 so there becomes a little bit ambiance, you know?

01:01:01.380 But I just didn't know him.

01:01:04.220 And so, yeah, I think that created some of the nervous energy.

01:01:08.000 Some other people I did know, so it wasn't that bad, but I got introduced to people that

01:01:12.680 I didn't know, and so you're always, like, I don't know, I don't usually say a lot then.

01:01:19.120 I'll kind of just be a listener, you know?

01:01:21.900 See, I get like that, too, and I wish I didn't.

01:01:24.580 This sort of social anxiety when you're in an environment like that, where there's just

01:01:28.680 all these, you know, people that you admire and respect and are around you and everybody,

01:01:33.500 it's kind of, I kind of don't even feel like myself, you know?

01:01:37.080 It's a sort of a very stressful thing for me.

01:01:39.080 Yeah.

01:01:39.400 So in some ways, I was kind of...

01:01:40.840 That's a good word.

01:01:41.440 It's stressful.

01:01:41.840 Yeah, yeah, and I don't know why that is.

01:01:44.120 Why is that?

01:01:45.180 Well, I think it's because you're a little bit probably, I don't know how I fit in this

01:01:49.600 circle.

01:01:49.980 There's a lot of circles in the world where I get...

01:01:51.700 But you're on top of the world right now.

01:01:53.080 You just interviewed the president of the United States.

01:01:55.840 I mean, everybody, you've got this incredible show.

01:01:58.100 I mean, I'm sure everybody was super excited to see you there, so you probably don't really

01:02:01.640 have any reason to feel nervous, but you still do, right?

01:02:04.640 Yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah, I just didn't know, I hadn't been in that circle before.

01:02:09.380 It's kind of like, I guess, when you're in a, I don't know, when you're in, just feel

01:02:13.580 like you're in a new water, you're figuring out the temperature, you don't know, you know,

01:02:17.540 you don't want to make a lot of noise at somebody's birthday party.

01:02:20.140 They are seeing friends that they know.

01:02:22.380 It's not a huge group of people.

01:02:23.780 So you just want to kind of, you know, you don't want to overstay your welcome, you know,

01:02:29.380 kind of type of energy, you know?

01:02:31.580 I don't need to tell a big story.

01:02:33.180 They all, they know each other.

01:02:34.780 I'm just happy to be here, happy to be able to see somebody celebrate their birthday, to

01:02:39.780 witness people that I admire from a little bit of a way, you know, from a little closer

01:02:44.400 than I'm usually allowed to get to them, you know, online or on TV, I guess.

01:02:48.120 Um, but the SNL thing was, we went to the music, they had a music show.

01:02:53.800 Yeah, Radio City.

01:02:54.580 Yeah.

01:02:54.860 And that's, that's the part that I got to go to.

01:02:56.560 And that was pretty cool.

01:02:57.720 Uh, just seeing different bands, Jelly Roll performed.

01:03:00.140 And so I know him.

01:03:01.740 Nice.

01:03:02.200 And so there was, yeah.

01:03:03.740 And I, I got to bring a friend.

01:03:04.920 And so I knew my buddy was, you know, we were just kind of milling around, running into

01:03:09.240 some people that we knew and meeting some new people, but it was pretty chill.

01:03:11.940 So when you went to the, you went to the inauguration too, right?

01:03:14.180 Yeah.

01:03:14.320 I went to the inauguration.

01:03:15.160 Yeah.

01:03:15.220 So like when you go to the inauguration and you've already, now, you know, the president

01:03:20.280 of the United States, cause you'd had this interview with him.

01:03:23.380 Yeah.

01:03:24.040 Like, do you get to kind of hang out with him at the inauguration or?

01:03:27.500 No, no.

01:03:28.160 I didn't see any of them.

01:03:29.100 I was in like the second tier of humans there or something, you know, like there was a first

01:03:34.640 tier and then I was in like this, a second tier of humans that were there.

01:03:39.580 But that's got to be kind of, uh, still interesting nonetheless to be there.

01:03:43.460 Oh, it was interesting.

01:03:44.160 Very interesting.

01:03:44.680 Cause I never, you don't even know if like the, the, the process is real. 0.97

01:03:48.360 You see it on TV, but it's like, who knows if that shit's real, who knows what's real 0.98

01:03:51.260 anymore. 0.99

01:03:51.980 So to witness that was pretty cool.

01:03:54.420 Just to be in Washington DC is always pretty neat with all the architecture.

01:03:59.280 Um, but I don't know Trump like that.

01:04:01.780 Like I'll message with his daughter sometimes, Ivanka.

01:04:04.940 Okay.

01:04:05.200 So I'm able to communicate with her.

01:04:07.000 And then what do you guys talk about?

01:04:08.440 She'll just send me a book that she thinks I would like.

01:04:11.060 Really?

01:04:11.460 We went to dinner one time.

01:04:12.540 She's so smart.

01:04:13.720 Yeah.

01:04:13.960 Okay.

01:04:14.380 It's mind blowing.

01:04:15.700 Yeah.

01:04:15.900 Yeah.

01:04:16.080 Yeah.

01:04:16.560 Um, and so go to dinner with her a lot or no, I only went one time.

01:04:21.420 That's pretty cool.

01:04:22.160 Was, was her husband, Jared there or was it just you two?

01:04:24.480 He wasn't.

01:04:25.000 It was about other friends of hers.

01:04:26.280 Okay.

01:04:26.540 Yeah.

01:04:26.800 I'm not trying to make break any news here, but it sounds interesting.

01:04:30.800 Not at all.

01:04:31.360 I wish there were news to break, dude.

01:04:32.960 She's stunning.

01:04:33.740 She's awesome. 0.83

01:04:34.640 And then there's like a middleman, like who worked with the, I guess, I guess he worked

01:04:39.740 with the Republican party and he got to invite some people.

01:04:43.240 Yeah.

01:04:43.880 So it was just a motley group of strange people that, uh, went to the inauguration.

01:04:48.420 So how did that work?

01:04:49.340 So when, uh, can I ask you questions or.

01:04:51.080 Yeah, sure.

01:04:51.440 Yeah.

01:04:51.900 So when, like when he like came on your show, right, it was right before the election

01:04:55.320 and he was doing a lot of podcasts and stuff.

01:04:57.720 Did he, did he, did they approach you or they call you?

01:05:00.160 Is it, I, his son was a, is a fan of your show, right?

01:05:02.760 Is that what he said?

01:05:03.800 He said Barron was a fan of the show and I tried to get to see Barron, but I didn't get

01:05:06.620 to meet him.

01:05:07.120 So he just got a call one day and Trump wanted to come on the show and.

01:05:10.820 Well, I'd seen, I'd met Trump a couple of times at UFC.

01:05:14.180 Oh, okay.

01:05:14.640 Yeah.

01:05:14.800 Yeah.

01:05:15.100 UFC, I think is, had everything to do with winning the election probably for, for the Republicans.

01:05:22.560 Yeah.

01:05:22.900 Yeah.

01:05:23.100 Because Dana White is just such a, um, facilitator. 1.00

01:05:28.000 He just gets things done.

01:05:29.340 He kept his sport going while all the other sports were shut down.

01:05:32.640 A lot of them were shut down or, uh, having to practice really intense methods during COVID.

01:05:37.860 You know, he was able to keep his sport going.

01:05:39.940 Like, um, and so he would, he brought Trump to a lot of his events cause they've been friends

01:05:44.120 for a long time.

01:05:45.540 Yeah.

01:05:45.900 And so I'd met him there a couple of times and then I knew his brother died of alcoholism.

01:05:50.060 So I was like, well, let me call him and let me ask Dana if, if Trump would ever talk about

01:05:55.220 his brother.

01:05:55.700 I didn't know about it, you know, and just to see what he's like, like, is he just all

01:05:59.780 a business guy?

01:06:00.560 Does he think about other things?

01:06:02.060 Cause when you're, you don't get a lot of, you don't hear a lot about his feelings, Trump's

01:06:07.700 feelings.

01:06:07.920 And if you do, he doesn't communicate it in a way where it's very emotional to people.

01:06:13.220 I don't feel like.

01:06:14.200 Right.

01:06:14.780 So I was just curious about that.

01:06:16.360 So yeah, I called up Dana and he said, we'll make it happen.

01:06:19.200 You know?

01:06:19.680 And then two days later he called back and he said, all good.

01:06:22.620 Somebody from his group is going to reach out to you.

01:06:24.760 So.

01:06:25.040 And you went to him, right?

01:06:26.060 And we went to him up in New Jersey.

01:06:27.400 Yeah.

01:06:27.820 And we offered, we would have, we would have loved to add, um, Harris and Walls on.

01:06:31.660 We're still trying to get Walls on.

01:06:32.840 We tried to get Harris on even after the election, but they just didn't want to come.

01:06:35.880 Yeah.

01:06:36.400 And so it was kind of a bummer, you know?

01:06:38.100 Cause I think.

01:06:38.980 Seems like that was a pretty big mistake.

01:06:40.840 They didn't do, didn't go on a lot of the shows that.

01:06:43.700 Yeah.

01:06:43.840 I think it would just let them be more normal.

01:06:46.840 I think people are, if something's too much behind the glass these days, people don't

01:06:50.640 trust the glass.

01:06:51.540 I don't even think it's, they don't, that they don't trust the person behind the glass. 0.99

01:06:54.360 I think they just don't trust the fucking glass if that makes any sense. 0.96

01:06:58.060 But, um, yeah, no, it does. 0.99

01:07:00.900 Yeah.

01:07:01.120 So I guess that was all kind of interesting.

01:07:02.700 I'm kind of out of sorts with the way that they're handling like the Gaza, Palestine 1.00

01:07:06.380 stuff. 0.99

01:07:06.920 Like that shit really, I think is insane to me, you know, but that's just, you know, you 0.99

01:07:13.040 know, I don't know. 1.00

01:07:14.200 That's just my thoughts.

01:07:15.800 It's kind of a endless sort of, uh, you know, uh, quagmire you can find yourself in once

01:07:23.820 you start talking.

01:07:25.100 When you get into politics.

01:07:26.420 I agree.

01:07:26.600 In this world we're living in now, because it's like, you know, you go on the road,

01:07:31.340 you do stand up all around the country and, you know, everybody's sort of divided in a

01:07:37.660 way.

01:07:38.000 Right.

01:07:38.360 And then you start sort of firmly choosing a side and all of a sudden half the audience

01:07:42.740 doesn't want to have any fun anymore.

01:07:45.180 Right.

01:07:45.340 So it's kind of like you got to be fine.

01:07:47.840 We got to make these choices now.

01:07:49.240 Like, okay, well, do I, do I want to give my opinion anymore about what's going on in

01:07:54.580 the world?

01:07:55.180 Uh, you know, and then, you know, you have to choose one of the, you know, set of opinions

01:08:01.180 that are on this side or the set of opinions that are all evenly and neatly put on this

01:08:05.420 side.

01:08:05.920 And as soon as you state your opinion about one of these issues that just happens to be

01:08:10.160 on this side, then anybody that doesn't agree with you no longer, you know, wants to, 0.98

01:08:14.760 wants to fuck with you and come to your show or have a good time or have a laugh with 0.99

01:08:18.680 you, you know? 1.00

01:08:19.060 So it's just such a shitty thing to have to deal with that. 0.82

01:08:21.140 Right.

01:08:21.520 Yeah.

01:08:21.820 So how do you, how do you kind of like, uh, you know, juggle that, you know, because,

01:08:26.120 you know, as Canadian, you know, like it's like right now in Canada, people are pretty

01:08:29.460 upset, you know, with, uh, you know, with Donald Trump because he's putting these tariffs

01:08:33.620 on Canada.

01:08:34.180 Right.

01:08:35.200 And saying they're going to make us a 51st state.

01:08:37.400 Saying they're going to annex Canada.

01:08:38.300 People aren't too happy about the idea of, uh, you know, being taken over by the United States

01:08:43.560 of America.

01:08:44.020 Yeah.

01:08:44.260 It's not something that people are super excited about hearing, you know?

01:08:47.220 So, you know, you kind of, you kind of go, it's funny because I, sometimes I think like,

01:08:52.460 well, I think a lot of Americans who aren't, don't think about it that much might think

01:08:56.420 like, oh, Canada is going to be the 51st state.

01:09:00.800 I bet you everyone in Canada must be really excited about being the 51st state of the United

01:09:05.520 States.

01:09:05.920 But, you know, I'm kind of saying, well, no, it'll probably be the first state in America

01:09:09.140 that nobody in it wants to be America, you know?

01:09:11.700 So, uh, so, cause you know, we've, we've got our own country.

01:09:15.340 It's not that we don't, don't, don't love America.

01:09:17.460 I love America, but we, you know, we sort of have our, our, our, our entire different

01:09:20.920 culture.

01:09:21.400 You know, you go to Canada all the time, right?

01:09:22.820 Yeah.

01:09:23.000 I love it.

01:09:23.500 And I'm glad it's Canada.

01:09:24.880 We're different, right?

01:09:25.580 It's a different thing.

01:09:26.400 Yeah.

01:09:26.720 It's different.

01:09:27.440 You're nice to have, you know, people will be, somebody will walk across the street in

01:09:32.560 Canada and just come tell you they're sorry.

01:09:34.360 And then go back across the street and then nothing even happened.

01:09:36.940 They're not even.

01:09:37.420 And yeah, they just came off just to apologize.

01:09:39.780 There's no even, you've never seen them before, you know?

01:09:42.660 Yeah.

01:09:43.100 Um, but it's, Canada's the best.

01:09:45.040 I think Canada gives me hope for humanity.

01:09:47.420 A lot of times it's good people, you know, like, um, I love Canada.

01:09:53.260 I wish, I wish that there was, there's times I've wanted to be, be Canadian even.

01:09:58.000 What's, uh, do you remember the first time you went to Canada?

01:10:00.800 Yeah.

01:10:01.460 Vancouver.

01:10:02.080 Yeah.

01:10:02.300 And was that somewhat recently?

01:10:04.960 Brothel or a hostel.

01:10:06.240 I slept at a hostel.

01:10:06.880 Okay.

01:10:07.160 Yeah.

01:10:07.340 Yeah.

01:10:08.160 How many years ago would that have been?

01:10:09.460 That was probably 50, 18 years ago, 17 years ago.

01:10:11.980 And it was great, man.

01:10:13.040 I had a great time.

01:10:13.820 Were you doing stand up there or were you?

01:10:15.680 I hadn't started.

01:10:16.340 I just almost started stand up.

01:10:17.880 I was doing, I was traveling.

01:10:19.580 I was left out of there on a school floating university.

01:10:21.880 I left out of Vancouver called Semester at Sea.

01:10:24.260 Yeah.

01:10:24.380 Yeah.

01:10:24.600 And it went around the globe and we left out of Vancouver, but I went up to Whistler.

01:10:28.660 I went and caught a ride.

01:10:29.840 Some guy took me hitchhiking up to Whistler, right?

01:10:32.380 Drove me up there.

01:10:33.560 Yeah.

01:10:33.720 And the dude, the guy who drove me, he was a caretaker for Superman who had died.

01:10:40.860 Remember Superman who got in the wheelchair?

01:10:42.240 Yeah.

01:10:42.520 Yeah.

01:10:42.680 Christopher Reeves.

01:10:43.320 Christopher Reeves.

01:10:43.820 He was his caretaker.

01:10:44.780 Okay.

01:10:45.060 Okay.

01:10:45.320 This guy, Michael.

01:10:46.900 And I think I met him.

01:10:49.740 I was at some shop right around there and he was saying he was in the area or something.

01:10:55.820 He's like, I'm taking the drive up to Whistler.

01:10:57.100 I was like, can I roll with you?

01:10:58.600 He's like, yeah.

01:10:59.480 So he took me up to Whistler, man, brought me back.

01:11:01.360 We stopped along the way, went on some hikes and stuff.

01:11:03.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:03.720 It was amazing.

01:11:04.580 Yeah.

01:11:04.720 And I've always enjoyed Canada.

01:11:06.680 I used to have a dream that I would meet a wife in Toronto.

01:11:10.120 Yeah.

01:11:10.680 But I went and did two weeks of comedy up there, didn't meet anyone.

01:11:13.460 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:13.920 Well, it could still happen for sure.

01:11:15.740 It could still happen.

01:11:16.160 Yeah.

01:11:16.900 You find the audiences react differently.

01:11:19.660 They're great.

01:11:20.560 Halifax was one of my favorite shows I've ever had in my life.

01:11:22.800 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:23.800 Dude, I even made, my little nephew made up this joke.

01:11:27.020 He said, oh, I told it on stage.

01:11:31.700 I was like, yeah, I heard one time that there wasn't any more fish up here, and so they changed

01:11:37.800 the name to No Fish Scotia, and nobody laughed, right?

01:11:44.200 Yeah, sure. 0.98

01:11:44.740 It was fucking fun. 0.98

01:11:46.100 No, that's why I'm laughing, because I can imagine the reaction. 0.99

01:11:50.300 Sometimes there's something great when they don't laugh.

01:11:52.480 Oh, sure.

01:11:53.120 There's some little thing in there.

01:11:54.580 It's like, oh, that's pretty good.

01:11:56.140 Yeah, absolutely.

01:11:57.200 You know?

01:11:57.820 Yeah.

01:11:58.000 But yeah, always had a great love for Canada.

01:12:00.240 I think it's bizarre that Trump would say something like that, and it's also, like,

01:12:05.620 it just, but what do you expect out of him, you know?

01:12:08.920 And what do you expect about the media to spotlight things and make it whatever it is, even if

01:12:13.780 it's a seed of something, to grow it into a million plants, you know?

01:12:17.340 Yeah.

01:12:18.260 No, it's interesting.

01:12:20.120 I think, you know, there's a thing that's going on, the hockey games in Canada now, where

01:12:23.380 the USA and Canada are playing, and, you know, they boo.

01:12:25.300 Yeah, the four nations, right?

01:12:26.340 Yeah, and the Canadian fans were booing the anthem, right?

01:12:29.340 And, you know, sometimes I go, like, well, I don't, you know, based on the reaction on

01:12:33.280 social media, I sort of feel like maybe not everybody in the U.S. necessarily understands

01:12:39.640 why that's happening.

01:12:40.780 Totally.

01:12:40.880 You know, they don't know it's about the tariffs, you know?

01:12:42.520 They're not booing the national anthem.

01:12:43.980 They're booing this, the fact that these tariffs are being put on, you know, which is going

01:12:49.100 to, of course, devastate, you know?

01:12:51.200 The economy on both sides will suffer from that, right?

01:12:53.500 I'm sitting here, like, talking about it like I know about it, you know?

01:12:55.900 I should probably know more about it.

01:12:57.460 But it's like, you know, I think people are just kind of like, why are you guys doing

01:13:02.440 this to us, you know?

01:13:03.420 So it's kind of an interesting thing.

01:13:06.140 But, you know, you want to talk about issues sometimes, and then you go, okay, I've just

01:13:10.740 waded into this sort of hornet's nest, and I'm never going to hear the end of it.

01:13:15.420 So it is interesting.

01:13:17.360 What was it, when you're at the inauguration, after the inauguration, where you're like

01:13:21.980 kind of just, are you kind of, who are you hanging out with there?

01:13:27.180 I went, who did I meet?

01:13:28.680 I met this kid, Alexander Wang.

01:13:30.280 We just had a podcast episode with him.

01:13:31.880 He created this company called Scale AI.

01:13:34.380 He's like this AI.

01:13:35.740 He's the youngest billionaire ever, this Chinese kid. 1.00

01:13:39.580 Oh my gosh.

01:13:40.140 From New Mexico.

01:13:41.800 Wow.

01:13:42.380 Fascinating dude.

01:13:44.400 Self-made billionaire.

01:13:45.480 Self-made billionaire.

01:13:46.280 Yeah.

01:13:46.500 So I ended up having lunch with him.

01:13:48.240 That was probably the neatest thing that happened that weekend.

01:13:50.920 Did he pick up the tab, or?

01:13:52.140 I think I paid, actually.

01:13:53.220 You paid?

01:13:53.740 I didn't know he was a billionaire.

01:13:55.060 Oh my gosh, yeah.

01:13:56.360 That's why he's a billionaire.

01:13:57.700 He's letting everyone else pick up the tab.

01:13:59.700 I was just happy to be dining with the Chinese, you know?

01:14:02.680 Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

01:14:03.620 And, oh, it was great, man.

01:14:05.520 And then who else?

01:14:07.680 Something else happened at night.

01:14:08.820 Oh, I saw Wayne Gretzke lost his tooth.

01:14:10.760 Wow.

01:14:11.320 And then anything.

01:14:13.020 I saw Joe Rogan for a few minutes.

01:14:15.300 I saw Tony Hinchcliffe from Kill Tony.

01:14:17.600 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:18.160 And then that was kind of it.

01:14:19.660 And then I went home.

01:14:20.400 It was too much, like, too hard to get around.

01:14:23.520 I saw Lex Friedman.

01:14:24.820 That was pretty neat.

01:14:25.400 I'd never met him.

01:14:26.080 He's a podcaster.

01:14:26.900 Yeah, I've met him at the mothership before.

01:14:28.940 Oh, nice.

01:14:29.240 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:29.560 Yeah, so it was just, that was kind of, those were some of the neat parts of it.

01:14:32.500 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:32.940 It's amazing.

01:14:33.520 You know?

01:14:33.660 He's getting to see some different folks.

01:14:36.040 Yeah.

01:14:36.400 Yeah, I think they're having issues, even in America, they're having, I just saw that there's

01:14:39.560 a part of Oregon that wanted to secede from Oregon.

01:14:43.700 Yeah.

01:14:44.580 They're going to become Canada's 11th province.

01:14:47.120 Good.

01:14:48.460 I would love it if we started trading pieces of our country. 1.00

01:14:51.260 Start trading.

01:14:51.760 Now, that I'm totally for.

01:14:53.340 New York and California, come join Canada.

01:14:55.540 Take one of them.

01:14:56.300 You guys can, you know, take, I'm not going to say who you guys can take, but, you know,

01:15:00.980 because we, but.

01:15:01.940 No, I know who you're talking about, dude.

01:15:03.320 I've got to be political.

01:15:04.420 Sacre bleu.

01:15:05.480 Okay.

01:15:06.620 That's all I'll say, brother.

01:15:08.420 No, no, just being Quebecois, actually.

01:15:10.140 Je parle français.

01:15:10.820 I lived in Quebec a lot in my life.

01:15:11.860 You did?

01:15:12.240 Yeah, so I grew up in Quebec, so I love Quebec, yeah.

01:15:15.120 Yeah, you must have been up to the Montreal Festival over the years or.

01:15:18.180 Yeah, we went there a couple of times.

01:15:19.940 I love Quebec.

01:15:20.720 It's fun.

01:15:21.560 Yeah.

01:15:21.920 Edmonton, we got some of the places we went to, Calgary and Ottawa and Winnipeg.

01:15:25.980 We're going to go to this year.

01:15:27.160 Oh, yeah.

01:15:27.680 So when you're in Ottawa, maybe if you're rolling past the farm and the tour bus.

01:15:32.140 Oh.

01:15:32.600 Come by the farm and we'll go ride some mules or something.

01:15:36.340 How far outside of town are you guys?

01:15:37.820 About like an hour or so.

01:15:38.840 Oh, wow.

01:15:39.420 Yeah, yeah.

01:15:40.060 So sort of not too far, you know.

01:15:42.780 I'll come pick you up in my pickup truck.

01:15:44.320 We'll go hang out.

01:15:44.840 Yeah.

01:15:45.640 Do you think you'll have, now that you're kind of feeling settled out there, do you think,

01:15:50.400 do you start thinking about starting a family or no?

01:15:52.540 Yeah, definitely.

01:15:53.720 You know, I'm getting married.

01:15:54.660 So, you know, knock on wood, everything goes well with that.

01:16:00.280 And, you know, maybe it'll be some, we'll see.

01:16:02.680 We'll have to ask my fiancee.

01:16:04.200 Oh, yeah.

01:16:04.780 I think she would want to do that.

01:16:06.400 Yeah.

01:16:06.600 You got to include her.

01:16:08.320 Yeah.

01:16:10.220 Yes.

01:16:10.660 Yes.

01:16:10.900 Yeah, for sure.

01:16:11.600 No, I think that's a possibility for sure.

01:16:13.920 Was it, for a while, did you think that that wasn't going to be a part of your life?

01:16:16.680 I was starting to question whether or not it was going to be part of my life because, you know, I mean, I think you kind of alluded to this earlier.

01:16:27.120 You know, you want to, you know, if you're going to get married, you want to get married to somebody that you, you know, love and actually think that this could, you know, last forever.

01:16:40.560 Right.

01:16:41.220 I was starting to question whether or not that was maybe possible.

01:16:44.320 You know, I wasn't sure if that was possible anymore to find somebody that I thought would last forever with.

01:16:48.520 But, you know, when I met Amanda, she's outside.

01:16:50.220 I hope I'm getting some brownie points here.

01:16:52.400 But I realized this is the one, you know.

01:16:55.000 Wow.

01:16:55.260 So, but it's, you know, until you meet that person, you know, it does start to feel kind of like, geez, this is getting a little kind of, you know, uncertain here.

01:17:04.720 Yeah, like I'm just loitering.

01:17:05.860 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:06.540 So, but.

01:17:07.480 Yeah, I think that's how I think about it because I think when you're younger, like you have this feeling of like this young love energy type of thing.

01:17:14.780 And that starts to, it feels, that feels less possible the older we get kind of, you know, it just starts to dissipate or it's like, oh, well, I just, I'm too wise now or I've had too much experience now that I'm never going to have that sort of like whimsical feeling of like, you know, that a 17 year old or a 23 year old would have, you know.

01:17:34.080 So, but it's nice to know that that can kind of sneak up and surprise you, you know.

01:17:39.220 Yeah, I think kind of, I mean, I think being home where I'm from helped, you know, because it's like, I don't know.

01:17:51.060 I mean, if you're not from Los Angeles, then it's kind of a weird place.

01:17:55.340 If you're from Los Angeles, it's normal.

01:17:56.980 But if you're not from Los Angeles, you know, it's kind of a weird place.

01:18:00.380 So, you know, you're here probably focused on your career and your work and so many other people are.

01:18:08.860 It's kind of hard to, I think, find, you know, a good, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it seems like it is kind of harder in this environment to find somebody that you can, I mean, I don't know.

01:18:19.920 Are people watching going, are we going to be taking relationship advice from me?

01:18:25.100 I don't know.

01:18:25.520 I don't know if that's.

01:18:26.120 No, well, no, it does make me think that I think there's this feeling in L.A. that if you meet somebody, you're going to have to eventually get them to leave here, right?

01:18:34.960 I've always felt that thing, like, well, if I met somebody, would they ever leave here with me?

01:18:38.740 Because I'm not going to stay here forever.

01:18:40.340 Right.

01:18:41.180 That's exactly what I was trying to say.

01:18:42.500 So that I think is a, yeah, I think that's totally common.

01:18:46.740 But you said you don't live here full time now?

01:18:51.140 I live in Tennessee.

01:18:51.920 I moved during the pandemic, too.

01:18:52.880 In Nashville?

01:18:53.520 Yeah.

01:18:53.820 Oh, cool, cool.

01:18:54.360 I moved during the pandemic.

01:18:55.080 I mean, what was, whenever Trump was talking about Canada, what was, can you bring it up?

01:18:58.280 Nick, I just want to know what he even was saying.

01:19:00.440 Like, what were they threatening?

01:19:01.840 They were threatening to tariff Canadian goods, just so our listeners can know what exactly was even going on.

01:19:08.680 Yeah.

01:19:09.460 They're going to put a tariff on everything.

01:19:13.800 You know, Canada is the largest trading partner of the United States.

01:19:17.500 Nice.

01:19:17.820 And so much of the goods that come into the United States from Canada are being brought in by American businesses to, you know, like wood.

01:19:28.340 You bring wood and lumber in to build houses, right?

01:19:30.420 So when you put a 25% tariff on lumber, that means everybody that – flannel.

01:19:34.920 If you're a big flannel company making flannel pajamas, all of a sudden flannel pajamas are going to be 25% more expensive.

01:19:40.980 So it's really – it's going to affect, you know, businesses on both sides of the border, obviously, not just Canada, but also everything will go up in price.

01:19:50.760 So, you know, and I'm not exactly sure the reason for it, to be honest with you.

01:19:57.020 He was really saying they weren't helping out with border security.

01:20:02.560 And that's what – the 30 days probation period, they did put a bunch of people at the border.

01:20:07.880 Absolutely.

01:20:08.480 And I don't think there's a real border security problem between Canada and the United States though.

01:20:14.020 It's – you know, it's – but that's –

01:20:17.300 It's the hardest country to get into in the world I think is Canada.

01:20:19.980 Yeah.

01:20:20.360 I mean it's –

01:20:21.920 Going that way there isn't.

01:20:23.140 That's for sure.

01:20:23.760 Yeah, it's – you know, the claim that there's fentanyl coming into the United States from Canada I think is a little bit exaggerated because I don't really think that that's actually the case.

01:20:35.180 Something like, you know, a very small amount is coming in from Canada.

01:20:40.380 Tariffs are a central part of Trump's economic plans.

01:20:42.540 He promised to introduce import duties against some of America's main trade partners during his election campaign.

01:20:47.680 He said tariffs will boost U.S. manufacturing and protect jobs as well as raising tax revenue and growing the economy.

01:20:52.660 Fentanyl is linked to tens of thousands of overdose deaths, taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada, and China accountable to their promise of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing into our country.

01:21:05.600 It just seems kind of vague.

01:21:08.660 Yeah, I think it's sort of like –

01:21:10.660 But like what would you do – like I'm trying to say – say if you bring a bunch of stuff into my country, right? 0.52

01:21:16.220 Say if you and I live in different countries and you bring a bunch of stuff into my country or I bring a bunch of stuff into your country and then you say, okay, I'm going to tax that more – I'm going to charge you more to bring that in if you don't help stop the fentanyl that's coming in.

01:21:30.280 I just – I don't know.

01:21:31.340 How would you then do that?

01:21:32.400 What would you then on your side?

01:21:33.660 Would you say, okay, we'll put more, what, drug dogs and security along the border?

01:21:37.000 I think that's what they're – I think that's what he's asking them to do and I think we already do have – again, I'm not a representative of the Canadian government but I do think that we already do have a lot of – there's only so much you can do to seal off a border, right?

01:21:55.160 And I don't think there is that much fentanyl coming in from Canada really.

01:21:58.380 I never heard that that was a thing before.

01:22:00.160 Yeah, I think it mostly does come in from the southern border.

01:22:03.080 That's what I would think.

01:22:03.500 I wonder if maybe that you guys got grandfathered into some late-night Trump rhetoric there.

01:22:09.520 Who knows?

01:22:09.780 It feels a little bit like that but hopefully it will resolve itself.

01:22:14.240 I do think that it's probably going to end up causing a lot of economic problems on both sides of the border and probably they may not go for it.

01:22:24.200 It'll be sports exciting for a while though.

01:22:26.360 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:26.960 That's a side effect of it.

01:22:27.680 It was a good fight right off the top of the game the other day.

01:22:30.380 It was pretty cool.

01:22:31.340 We like a good hockey fight so that's cool.

01:22:33.220 And it is nice when countries sometimes don't get along a little bit in sports, right?

01:22:36.940 I've always admired that.

01:22:39.080 Yeah.

01:22:39.360 That's one thing I don't like about the NBA anymore.

01:22:41.220 All the players, it just seems like they all know each other.

01:22:43.140 Nobody's really playing for their squad sometimes.

01:22:45.080 Okay.

01:22:45.580 So I like a little bit more of that animosity.

01:22:47.560 Maybe more fights in the NBA.

01:22:49.520 Physical fights.

01:22:50.480 Yeah, look at that.

01:22:51.660 Oh, definitely.

01:22:53.000 I believe both those players are American too.

01:22:54.900 I'm not sure how quickly your researcher can tell us that.

01:22:57.680 But even though the Canadian team.

01:23:01.900 Canada didn't get the win in this game.

01:23:03.540 I know that.

01:23:03.820 Maybe that's not true at all what I just said.

01:23:06.260 I don't think Canada got the win in this game.

01:23:08.380 But that's okay.

01:23:09.960 Yeah, we lost the game absolutely.

01:23:11.460 Which is really kind of.

01:23:13.500 I know.

01:23:13.840 But it is nice to see everybody having a good time watching a hockey fight for sure.

01:23:17.780 Yeah.

01:23:18.160 Absolutely.

01:23:18.880 You know, so.

01:23:20.100 What else did I see in the news that I just saw was happening?

01:23:23.220 Oh, yeah.

01:23:23.840 It was that contraception begins at erection now.

01:23:28.440 So there's a law that they're pushing.

01:23:30.480 Ohio Democratic lawmakers proposed conception begins at erection.

01:23:34.540 Okay. 0.67

01:23:35.060 Yeah.

01:23:35.200 So they're trying to put it on the men a little bit more.

01:23:37.700 So what exactly are they going to do about this now?

01:23:40.060 Well, a new bill in Ohio would make it a crime for men to ejaculate without intending to have a baby.

01:23:45.280 Oh, wow.

01:23:46.180 That is, that's definitely something that I could see a lot of people probably would be guilty of for sure. 0.99

01:23:53.140 Hey, shoot and shoot, you know? 0.96

01:23:54.600 Yeah. 1.00

01:23:54.900 Yeah.

01:23:55.100 I could see that being, I mean, I don't want to get in too much personal detail, but I think I'd probably be locked up for a long time.

01:24:04.000 Hey, yeah.

01:24:04.960 Oh, we're going to visit Tom this weekend again.

01:24:06.880 Yeah.

01:24:07.060 He's behind bars.

01:24:08.420 Yeah, my gosh.

01:24:09.140 I thought he was going to get paroled.

01:24:10.500 Plenty of time to break the law in jail, though.

01:24:12.620 Yeah, that's true.

01:24:15.460 And they put a monitor, like, wraps around your wiener, and it just, like, if it, it just goes off if it gets too hard.

01:24:22.540 Now, I'm assuming this is a parody site, but the world's so crazy right now that I'm actually asking this for real.

01:24:27.860 Is this a real article?

01:24:28.900 This is a real article right there.

01:24:30.400 Yep.

01:24:31.000 Let's zoom in on.

01:24:31.980 I'm going to read it a little bit.

01:24:33.080 Okay.

01:24:33.500 So this is not The Onion or something like that or Mad Magazine or something?

01:24:37.620 No, this is one of those good radishes that they have out there.

01:24:40.960 Conception begins, and it rhymes nicely, too.

01:24:42.980 Conception begins at erection act.

01:24:45.480 I mean, it's a nice rhyme to it, which is also nice.

01:24:48.160 If you're going to penalize someone for an unwanted pregnancy, why not penalize the person who is also responsible for the pregnancy? 0.56

01:24:53.440 Now, I, I can't say I don't agree with this.

01:24:56.300 It's like, then you're going to have a lot more people.

01:25:00.880 $10,000 per discharge.

01:25:03.380 Ooh.

01:25:04.480 That's.

01:25:05.300 But here's the thing.

01:25:06.340 Some dudes are just running around, skeeting or whatever they call it, and I don't know what they call it in different countries, but they're not going to have an extra 10K on them.

01:25:14.440 You're going to have, the court system would be filled with every, every kid in the world, every 14-year-old kid.

01:25:22.660 Yeah.

01:25:22.900 I mean, I'm assuming, yeah, does this, I don't, I don't know how much I want to talk about this in detail with you, to be honest with you.

01:25:28.560 No, look, I'm going to say, you don't get pregnant on your own.

01:25:31.180 Representative Anita Somani, Democrat, Dublin, said.

01:25:35.780 A felony for men to discharge semen without the intent to fertilize. 0.60

01:25:43.380 That is.

01:25:45.280 Wow.

01:25:46.000 An amazing, amazing idea.

01:25:48.360 I mean, I actually would love to see that sort of applied that law just to see what would happen.

01:25:53.560 I mean, it would be interesting to see what would happen.

01:25:55.760 It's genital communism in a way, I guess. 0.73

01:25:57.660 It's genital communism. 0.80

01:25:59.780 Is it?

01:26:00.340 Absolutely.

01:26:01.260 Yeah.

01:26:01.840 Absolutely.

01:26:02.280 She introduced legislation that would make it a felony to discharge semen without the intent to fertilize. 0.51

01:26:06.360 So, Mani and state representative Tristan Rader joined forces to propose a bill nicknamed Conception Begins a Direction.

01:26:12.820 There are some exceptions, such as when protection or contraceptions are used during sex.

01:26:17.580 It also wouldn't apply when an individual is masturbating.

01:26:20.420 Oh, okay. 0.99

01:26:21.020 Donating sperm.

01:26:22.180 That's a relief.

01:26:23.080 Yeah.

01:26:23.820 Or if the intercourse has taken place between members of the LGBT plus community, and this doesn't produce over. 0.98

01:26:29.460 So, gay people would be able to just jerk off on each other, and they don't suffer any of the consequences. 1.00

01:26:36.180 I have to read it again. 0.99

01:26:38.560 If a couple of straights get caught, you know, discharging.

01:26:43.840 This is unfair on so many levels.

01:26:45.940 Well, it's just, it's beyond ridiculous what's going on here.

01:26:49.840 Republican activist Austin Beigel laughed.

01:26:52.080 It's a mockery of the most basic biological conceptions.

01:26:54.800 And now, I still, I'm sort of, kind of can't believe this is a real article.

01:27:01.260 Well, I think their purpose in this was saying, if you think it's absurd to regulate men, that you think, you should think it's equally absurd to regulate women.

01:27:08.520 So, Mani responded.

01:27:09.540 I'm guessing that there was an original idea that...

01:27:13.520 I see, I see.

01:27:14.260 Okay, of course, yeah.

01:27:15.380 About...

01:27:15.800 I understand now.

01:27:16.380 ...taking on reproductive rights for women. 0.99

01:27:18.140 Right, absolutely.

01:27:18.820 So, huh.

01:27:20.520 I don't know, man.

01:27:21.300 It's a good idea.

01:27:22.240 I'd run up a tab, I know that.

01:27:23.480 They're making a valid point when you put it that way, absolutely.

01:27:25.920 I'd run up a tab.

01:27:29.680 Did you, when you hosted SNL, what was that like for?

01:27:32.180 Do you recall kind of some of the energy of that night?

01:27:34.060 It was a wild, somewhat terrifying experience.

01:27:41.180 You know, I had just gone through some pretty, I'd gone through, just gone through surgery, like a few months.

01:27:49.460 From testicular cancer?

01:27:50.200 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:50.660 And I'd had this lymph node dissection, and I was kind of like, it had affected my sort of energy levels a lot.

01:27:58.220 So, it was kind of, there was a lot going on in my life when I actually got the call to do that show, and to do Saturday Night Live.

01:28:05.340 And, you know, it was really cool, though.

01:28:09.520 The thing that was cool about it was, you know, Lorne Michaels, who's Canadian, and I was just so kind of, sort of, kind of sort of overwhelmed that I was asked to do it, right?

01:28:24.380 Yeah.

01:28:24.620 And I had a couple of friends who I grew up with who worked on my show with me, and I said, you know, can they come in and, like, kind of work with me and do some, help write some skits and stuff?

01:28:33.920 So, they gave us a little office and that stuff.

01:28:35.440 We went in there.

01:28:35.860 We were sort of writing skits up and everything.

01:28:39.040 And, you know, they actually kind of ended up giving me a lot of kind of creative freedom on the show to kind of write sketches and stuff.

01:28:49.840 And, you know, in hindsight, I kind of wish they hadn't.

01:28:52.880 Like they had just written them themselves? 0.95

01:28:56.200 Yeah, well, because we really kind of made some really weird fucking sketches, you know? 0.88

01:28:59.940 And I think maybe it would have been cool if maybe I had just gone in and done the stuff that they had written. 0.87

01:29:03.940 But, like, I was sort of definitely, you know, Freddie Got Fingered hadn't come out yet.

01:29:12.320 So, like, I was still kind of riding high on this hit show, and we come in and we say, okay, now let's write some crazy sketches, right?

01:29:19.100 And, I mean, the stuff we wrote was really, really weird, you know?

01:29:25.740 And –

01:29:27.160 Were you intent on making it weird?

01:29:29.500 Do you feel like –

01:29:29.840 I think we were, yeah.

01:29:30.440 Like how weird can we make this?

01:29:32.000 Yeah.

01:29:32.320 It's SNL.

01:29:32.900 Let's make it ours.

01:29:33.540 I think so.

01:29:34.060 I think so.

01:29:34.520 And, you know, sometimes I think there was a misperception maybe among some of the cast that I brought my own writers in, which wasn't really the case.

01:29:42.340 It was more like – it was my buddies and I was – they'd come up with me with the show.

01:29:48.400 You know, it was kind of like we were – you know, when we made the show in Canada, some of my friends came down with me to the States to –

01:29:55.520 Like this is part of the team.

01:29:56.480 It's not just Tom Green.

01:29:57.260 I want them to be included in the show.

01:30:00.160 So we kind of went in and did that.

01:30:01.600 But, I mean, it was an amazingly exciting experience.

01:30:04.960 I mean, my parents were there on stage with me, you know?

01:30:09.380 You know, it was one of those things where you kind of can't believe that you actually – that it actually happened while it was happening.

01:30:17.200 You know, and I did a lot of sketches with Will Ferrell.

01:30:19.520 Well, one of the – like here's an example of something that I – I wouldn't say I regret this, but like – but I kind of regret this.

01:30:28.900 So there was a sketch where I'm a wizard and I'm holding a pig, like an actual pig.

01:30:37.360 And it was Molly Shannon and Will.

01:30:40.020 Wow.

01:30:40.320 And I'm a wizard.

01:30:41.620 And I didn't really have any lines in the sketch or many lines in the sketch.

01:30:45.960 It was mostly Will and Molly were doing this sketch.

01:30:48.940 But I noticed during rehearsal that if I – like if I just kind of lightly sort of tickled the pig's belly with my finger, that it would start to squeal extremely loud, right?

01:31:00.900 OK.

01:31:01.360 And so I did that once during rehearsal and then somebody said, oh, you better not – you know, she'll squeal if you touch her belly.

01:31:07.960 And so I said, OK.

01:31:09.520 Oh, yeah.

01:31:10.060 And there's a rehearsal show and then there's the actual show, right?

01:31:13.520 And, you know, I kind of maybe regret this, but I did note that, OK, let's get through the rehearsal show. 0.93

01:31:21.660 But then live, I'm going to make that pig squeal, right? 1.00

01:31:26.540 Oh, yeah, sister. 0.90

01:31:27.620 So it did kind of – 0.89

01:31:29.520 Sorry, I meant pig. 0.51

01:31:30.500 Yeah.

01:31:31.280 No, but it was kind of – it kind of threw the sketch off a little bit. 0.97

01:31:35.040 You just fucking kept squealing that thing? 1.00

01:31:36.540 I realized that it did kind of throw the rhythm of the comedy off a little bit, but – 0.99

01:31:41.620 How many times did you squeal it?

01:31:43.360 It just sort of became sort of a bit of a mess.

01:31:47.760 And were you getting a squeal every time he touched his belly or did you have to really –

01:31:51.800 No, I just had to kind of just lightly sort of pat her there and she would just try –

01:31:56.440 But it was amusing to me, but I'm not sure if anybody else enjoyed it that much.

01:32:01.240 Oh, yeah.

01:32:02.060 My sister's like that. 1.00

01:32:03.080 If you touch her lunch, you know, she fucking gets a little animated if you grab any of her takis out of her little dish. 1.00

01:32:08.400 Right. 0.99

01:32:08.760 It was like that.

01:32:09.980 Yeah.

01:32:10.420 So – but, you know, it was an amazing experience.

01:32:14.480 I was a total honor to be able to do it.

01:32:16.720 And, you know, I mean, I – you know, it was cool.

01:32:19.700 I mean, the cast was Jimmy Fallon, Tina Fey, Will Ferrell, Chris Kattan, Molly Shannon, Anna Gasteyer, Tracy Morgan.

01:32:30.180 And, you know, there was – it's a weird environment like Saturday Night Live, especially when you're young and you don't really know.

01:32:42.100 Like, you know, we were talking earlier about like going to – you were talking about going to Chris Rock's party and like you didn't know how to act or whatever because there's all these people here.

01:32:49.620 And it's just kind of complicated.

01:32:51.000 Yeah.

01:32:51.180 So you're getting thrust into an environment like that and then it's – even as the host, it sort of felt like kind of a competitive environment because, you know, all the cast members are trying to write sketches and get them on the air.

01:33:05.840 Everyone – every week – and I didn't really know how it worked really at the time.

01:33:09.480 In hindsight, I now realize how it works and I – we might have done things differently.

01:33:13.740 But, you know, when we were trying to put these sketches on the air that we were writing, maybe that was kind of pushing another sketch off and we didn't really – I wasn't really thinking of it like that.

01:33:21.600 So it kind of created – it's kind of a weird environment.

01:33:24.800 And, you know, the more I kind of, you know, sort of hear people on podcasts who have been on the show, talk about the show, it seems like everybody has gone through that experience who has been on that show where it's very competitive and stressful for people.

01:33:39.120 And that makes me feel a little bit better about my experience there because, you know, it was kind of, you know, a stressful experience, you know, because you know everybody is going to be watching the show.

01:33:50.600 It's live and, you know, I'm – you know, you're doing all this weird stuff that's not necessarily – you know, I'm a little bit out of my element.

01:34:00.340 I didn't do sketch comedy.

01:34:01.520 Yeah, that's scary.

01:34:02.620 So it was – but it was cool.

01:34:05.060 It was cool.

01:34:05.240 It sounds like it's par for the course a little because, yeah, I mean even Adam Sandler the other night was singing.

01:34:09.200 He had a musical tribute that he did to the 50 years and he referenced a couple times about people having sketches that they wrote that didn't get on the show.

01:34:17.540 So I think that seemed like it was just a weekly occurrence.

01:34:20.640 And, of course, you want to go in there with a little bit more comfort zone for yourself.

01:34:24.760 You know, it's like, yeah, if we can write a couple of them or we can have some manipulation over them, it's probably going to make you feel more comfortable, you know?

01:34:31.040 Another thing that was weird that happened on the show, so like – so there was a sketch that I did – oh, it's called a sketch – like I did with Will Ferrell where we're both dressed as eagles.

01:34:43.920 And this was one of the ones that my friends and I wrote, okay?

01:34:47.200 It's sort of hard to sort of say that we wrote it but the sketch was, you know, Jimmy Fallon and Molly Shannon are looking at Will and I who are eagles, right?

01:34:59.060 We wrote this out, by the way, on paper and handed it in and then they said to do it.

01:35:03.740 And then Will and I decide to fly up into the audience, okay?

01:35:11.180 And I thought it would be fun to go in the audience.

01:35:13.420 So we fly into the audience and then we chew up carrots and then I believe Will chews up a carrot and I believe he sort of spits the carrot into my mouth and then kind of we end up sort of – because you know how baby birds will chew up the food and feed it – mother birds will chew up the food and sort of make it easier for the baby to eat?

01:35:35.460 So this was the sketch we did.

01:35:40.280 Oh, yeah.

01:35:41.200 But so –

01:35:42.140 Oh, God.

01:35:43.020 So somehow I kind of – maybe probably would have been better if we just kind of did the sketches that their writers had written.

01:35:49.100 Oh, God, huh?

01:35:49.880 Yeah.

01:35:51.180 And these are both males, huh?

01:35:53.160 Yeah.

01:35:53.720 So we're doing this – yeah, exactly.

01:35:56.820 So we're doing this –

01:35:57.860 What zoo is that at, huh?

01:35:59.460 That's what I'm talking about.

01:36:00.600 That's the West Hollywood Aquarium right there, brother.

01:36:03.940 I'll tell you that, huh?

01:36:05.340 Yeah.

01:36:05.680 So we're doing this sketch, this skit.

01:36:09.160 And so when you host the show, you got to run to get ready for the next sketch because you got to shake off your eagle costume and put on another costume, right?

01:36:17.020 Another – and so I'm running down the stairs and I'm running through the backstage area and just sitting in the darkness, just backstage.

01:36:25.220 Tom Hanks is just sitting there in front of a monitor watching the show.

01:36:28.060 And I'm in an eagle costume.

01:36:29.920 I'd just done that.

01:36:31.080 I make eye contact with Tom Hanks.

01:36:33.040 So now I'm like – I was already kind of nervous.

01:36:36.640 Now like I got Tom Hanks in the dark watching and I'm going like, how did that eagle sketch go?

01:36:44.300 You know?

01:36:45.080 And I'm sort of getting ready for the next sketch.

01:36:47.720 Not sure how the eagle sketch went and Tom Hanks is watching.

01:36:50.860 So it kind of throws you a little bit.

01:36:52.740 But then there's a big after party after the show and Tom Hanks was real nice.

01:36:56.120 And he was hanging out talking to my parents and stuff and so it was pretty cool.

01:37:00.480 But no, it was an amazing thing.

01:37:02.040 It's a kind of thing though like it's kind of like you go, geez, it would be nice to be able to do it again someday.

01:37:07.380 Because I think like doing it the first time is sort of so – I don't know that that would ever happen.

01:37:13.780 But, you know, probably in an alternate universe I might be able to do it again someday.

01:37:18.000 But, you know, like you go, okay, I sort of understand how the system of it works now.

01:37:23.880 And it would be, you know, probably – you know, I probably would not have done that.

01:37:31.180 Yeah, but also it's great that you did though.

01:37:34.880 It's so epic.

01:37:36.040 Yeah.

01:37:36.340 And yeah, I think you're right about – that's like a lot of things in life.

01:37:39.220 You're like, man, I wish I had gotten a trial run or had a little bit of an idea of how the feelings were or what the energy was like in that space or that room.

01:37:47.400 Or like, man, there's been things you go out on a stage, part of a show or a banquet, some type of thing, and you just play the room totally wrong, you know.

01:37:57.500 That didn't seem like that, but there's definitely times like that in life and you wish – you're like, man, I wish I'd get one more swing at it.

01:38:03.800 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:04.440 But –

01:38:04.840 And, you know, I think that, you know, that generally you can at least take those lessons and apply them to something else.

01:38:13.760 Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:38:14.760 So, yeah.

01:38:15.160 Did – was Michael Jackson there whenever you guys played?

01:38:18.140 Who was y'all's musical guest?

01:38:19.440 No, it was not Michael Jackson, but that would have been amazing if it was Michael Jackson.

01:38:23.240 No, it was David Gray.

01:38:25.300 Oh, yeah.

01:38:25.840 And – but, man, it would have been amazing.

01:38:29.440 Not – no, nothing against David Gray, but –

01:38:31.920 David Gray, I've seen David Gray play.

01:38:34.480 Have you ever interacted with Michael Jackson in any way or –

01:38:38.260 No.

01:38:38.600 No, that would have – I mean, that would have been amazing.

01:38:40.960 But, yeah, he was great and –

01:38:43.340 I would love to see –

01:38:46.260 Another weird thing that happened on the show.

01:38:48.480 Michael Jackson.

01:38:48.960 One thing that was weird that happened on the show.

01:38:51.580 So I was backstage getting ready for the – I don't know if I should tell this story.

01:38:55.480 I don't even know if I should tell this story.

01:38:57.280 Maybe it's not – let's talk about something else.

01:38:59.260 Okay.

01:38:59.480 It's a weird story.

01:39:00.300 No worries.

01:39:03.280 Yeah, Tom Hanks was there the other night.

01:39:04.720 I didn't get to see him.

01:39:05.880 Oh, I got to see Madonna.

01:39:07.140 She's little.

01:39:08.420 Okay.

01:39:08.900 Where was that?

01:39:09.320 She's such a little baby carrot. 1.00

01:39:11.580 What?

01:39:13.460 She was at that SNL thing.

01:39:14.960 Oh, okay.

01:39:15.480 Yeah, that's cool.

01:39:16.220 It was just interesting.

01:39:17.060 So were you chatting with Madonna?

01:39:18.260 No, no, no, no, no.

01:39:19.460 I don't even know what I would say.

01:39:19.560 She's quite interesting on TikTok these days.

01:39:22.440 Oh, is she?

01:39:22.900 She does some pretty sort of out there stuff on her TikTok.

01:39:27.900 I got to follow her.

01:39:28.700 I got to check her out.

01:39:30.180 When you have these – you beat cancer, right?

01:39:34.120 Has it flared back up?

01:39:35.260 What's that been like?

01:39:36.100 No, it's completely gone.

01:39:38.660 Do they have to take out one of your gonads or not? 1.00

01:39:40.920 One testicle, yeah. 0.98

01:39:42.000 My right testicle and some lymph nodes as well. 0.99

01:39:45.140 And what are the lymph nodes like? 0.98

01:39:46.880 Is that actually in the testicle or is that in the body?

01:39:49.320 No, the lymph nodes are actually behind your intestines and they have to like – they cut me up here and they had to remove those.

01:39:55.500 And that was just a check to see if the cancer had spread into them.

01:39:58.720 Wow.

01:39:59.200 And the only way they could really check and know for 100 percent sure if it had spread was to take them out and look at them under a microscope and stuff.

01:40:05.600 So they had not spread.

01:40:07.120 So then that meant I did not have to have chemo and stuff.

01:40:09.060 But they did take my right testicle, which was – honestly, like when I found out – the show was on MTV at the time.

01:40:15.600 And you have it still? 0.80

01:40:16.300 Yeah, I did not keep it like indefinitely, but that is it in a plastic bag right there.

01:40:23.180 How many ounces is it?

01:40:24.160 I don't remember weighing it exactly, but I know it's quite heavy for sure.

01:40:28.180 Oh, hell yeah.

01:40:29.180 I can give you that.

01:40:31.520 But – 1.00

01:40:32.160 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:40:32.660 We don't have no light testicles around here. 1.00

01:40:35.080 But we filmed the whole sort of surgery and for a show on MTV.

01:40:45.340 That's actually the whole show there, the cancer special, which is on YouTube.

01:40:48.340 But it's in my documentary on Prime too where it kind of walks through that whole – that's Glenn Humplick who is my friend and co-host on the show.

01:40:56.100 And here he is sort of after my surgery coming down and playing with my testicle.

01:40:59.900 A little bit of sashimi there.

01:41:01.140 Yeah, it's a little sashimi.

01:41:02.280 Yeah, that's what he says.

01:41:03.060 It sort of looks like chicken.

01:41:04.180 And then my mom says, I don't know what kind of chicken you're eating. 0.98

01:41:07.060 Yeah, so that is my cancer-infected testicle right there. 0.94

01:41:10.680 But I still have the left one. 0.92

01:41:12.220 It's the middle one now.

01:41:13.740 Yeah. 0.68

01:41:14.960 I can still ejaculate just a little.

01:41:17.080 No, it's pretty good actually. 0.97

01:41:17.900 Heck yeah, dude.

01:41:18.880 It's going to cost you $10,000 if you drive over to Ohio and do it.

01:41:21.900 I'll tell you that, bro.

01:41:24.060 Look, why don't you stop in Mishawaka and do it?

01:41:26.040 Only $5,000 for me.

01:41:28.160 Oh, yeah.

01:41:28.780 That's true.

01:41:31.620 Which is a benefit to having in Ohio to have testicular cancer.

01:41:34.920 You can kind of –

01:41:35.520 God, brother.

01:41:36.760 Dude, the tariffs they would rack up, they'd make a million bucks a night in that state.

01:41:40.480 That's not a bad idea.

01:41:41.740 No, not a bad idea for sure. 0.98

01:41:42.760 Did you ever wear a prosthetic testicle? 0.99

01:41:45.040 It was offered and I refused to do it. 0.93

01:41:47.960 I did not refuse but I just sort of opted out on the prosthetic.

01:41:52.740 Did you ever look at them at least?

01:41:54.480 I think I did.

01:41:55.420 Yeah, I think I did.

01:41:56.140 This was 20 years ago.

01:41:58.600 But I'd heard – the doctor kind of said a lot of people get them, don't like it.

01:42:03.440 They say it kind of sort of feels weird or whatever.

01:42:05.580 So I just figured, no, I don't need one.

01:42:06.860 Yeah.

01:42:07.580 But I mean I don't know how much you want to talk about my ball sack.

01:42:11.000 But I mean it doesn't really seem that much different like down there.

01:42:14.420 Like I mean –

01:42:14.820 Oh, I could imagine that too.

01:42:15.700 As you're talking – 0.99

01:42:16.320 Yeah, it all just kind of sort of sort of morphs into kind of like a – because like the – like they don't like – like they don't actually like go through the scrotum to get the testicle. 0.99

01:42:30.440 You know that? 0.81

01:42:30.840 Like they don't actually cut the scrotum. 0.95

01:42:32.420 Oh, nuh-uh. 0.83

01:42:32.940 You know, they go in – they cut you like up – sort of up here like on your – like under your pubic hair kind of thing.

01:42:38.520 Under your pubes.

01:42:39.380 Uh-huh.

01:42:39.660 They go in there and then they kind of go in and they just sort of shuck it out like an oyster from above.

01:42:44.060 Yeah. 0.70

01:42:44.540 So it's sort of not really – like the scrotum is completely intact.

01:42:49.300 You know, like there's not some sort of – you know, sort of scarred scrotum or anything.

01:42:53.260 Like I don't have a scarred up scrotum.

01:42:54.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.93

01:42:55.400 Like it's totally normal scrotum. 0.78

01:42:57.180 Yeah, good.

01:42:57.720 Yeah, like there's a little scar up here but I'd had a hernia operation before when I was like, you know, younger.

01:43:05.000 So they just went through the same thing.

01:43:06.360 So it's like you wouldn't – just a little scar there.

01:43:08.680 Yeah, so.

01:43:09.160 A lot of hernias in Canada too.

01:43:10.540 What country has the most hernias you think? 0.99

01:43:12.020 Yeah, that is interesting.

01:43:13.640 I had never thought of it about that.

01:43:15.020 But is there a lot in Canada or is it –

01:43:16.680 A lot of my friends in Canada have had hernias.

01:43:19.240 A lot of your friends in Canada have had hernias, really?

01:43:22.320 Yeah, I'm just wondering.

01:43:22.800 That is – I'd be curious to see if there's more in Canada.

01:43:26.080 So that would be certainly an interesting statistic for sure.

01:43:29.440 According to available data, countries in South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa tend to have the highest prevalence of hernias,

01:43:35.540 particularly in regions with lower socioeconomic status with countries like India and parts of Tanzania showing significantly higher rates compared to high-income nations.

01:43:44.140 This is largely due to factors like limited access to health care and higher rates of manual labor.

01:43:48.260 Wow.

01:43:48.500 I gave myself a hernia on my show live on the public – it was on the public access version of the show years before we were on MTV.

01:43:59.760 And it was kind of a strange episode, probably one of the weirder ones where we said, okay, I'm going to break the Guinness Book of World Records for the longest fingernails.

01:44:10.660 Have you ever seen those bins?

01:44:11.520 Oh, yeah.

01:44:12.180 We used to see them all the time.

01:44:13.140 This is a strange bit.

01:44:14.060 And the Chinese kid on the bikes, remember that, that world record book? 0.99

01:44:16.940 Yeah.

01:44:17.280 They'd have a 15 or 16, a whole – just a starter pack of Asians hanging off a bike. 1.00

01:44:22.800 Exactly.

01:44:23.160 So for whatever reason, this was – this doesn't even sound like it could even possibly make sense to describe it.

01:44:30.560 But the idea was, okay, I'm going to – it was Glenn and myself.

01:44:33.780 It's a live show.

01:44:34.640 It was on community cable.

01:44:36.480 It was not on a big network.

01:44:39.120 So it was sort of late at night.

01:44:41.400 And we said, okay, what we're going to do is we're going to try to break the record for longest fingernails.

01:44:45.700 And I had a bunch of milk.

01:44:46.820 It was calcium.

01:44:47.900 And I set it up all very seriously and then I start drinking milk and then for the entire hour, I just basically drank milk and kind of stared at my fingernails for an hour and didn't do anything, right?

01:45:02.740 Just kind of progressively got a little bit more kind of sort of weird.

01:45:07.920 And then at the – towards the end of the show, I kind of stood up and started thrashing around sort of somewhat violently.

01:45:13.820 I don't know.

01:45:14.160 There's no real logical reason for it.

01:45:15.820 It was like a milk overdose or something.

01:45:18.300 And I threw my – I started doing this thrashing and I hit the desk and I flipped the desk over and I felt something pop in my abdomen.

01:45:27.760 And then we went off the air and I went up to the bathroom and my intestine was like pushing out through my abdomen and went to the hospital and I had given myself a hernia.

01:45:40.020 So that's how that happened.

01:45:42.040 Was that probably the worst accident you ever endeared?

01:45:44.640 No, the worst one ever was just two years ago.

01:45:51.260 I stepped on a fire on the beach in Costa Rica.

01:45:56.940 The old fire step, huh?

01:45:58.280 It had been buried under sand.

01:46:00.100 Oh.

01:46:00.460 And I walked up to this bonfire and the edge of the fire had been buried and I – my foot went into it and yeah, I got third degree burns.

01:46:11.420 I thought that was a couple of to-go sandwiches.

01:46:13.320 Yeah.

01:46:13.700 No.

01:46:15.300 They – yeah.

01:46:16.820 It was – that was maybe the worst.

01:46:21.360 And that was just three years ago.

01:46:23.180 I almost lost my foot.

01:46:24.140 So I was –

01:46:25.720 You just had to lay on the – you just had to lay in bed for a while, huh?

01:46:28.040 For 10 days in a Costa Rican hospital and then I was medevaced on an air ambulance back to Canada actually and spent another week and a half in the hospital there.

01:46:39.960 And yeah, my foot's pretty messed up right now but it's better.

01:46:43.240 It's better.

01:46:43.680 Yeah.

01:46:43.780 Not 100 percent but I've had a few good injuries.

01:46:46.580 That was – oh, there they go.

01:46:47.820 There they are.

01:46:48.460 Yeah.

01:46:48.640 Oh, my gosh.

01:46:49.360 You found the unedited version.

01:46:50.920 Yeah.

01:46:51.980 Yeah.

01:46:52.540 That – that – wow.

01:46:53.820 Look at that.

01:46:54.700 Yeah.

01:46:54.940 It was – and look at this.

01:46:56.000 The top of my foot too.

01:46:57.460 Wow.

01:46:57.700 The bottom of the foot ain't good either.

01:46:59.000 Those are sexy.

01:46:59.860 I'll spend 10 grand on those things, huh?

01:47:03.560 Look out, Ohio.

01:47:05.160 Jeez.

01:47:05.640 Yeah.

01:47:05.920 My gosh.

01:47:06.460 Yeah.

01:47:06.780 Yeah.

01:47:07.460 Yeah.

01:47:08.380 Yeah.

01:47:08.700 Those are my feet right there.

01:47:09.980 That was just – that was maybe coming up from three years ago now.

01:47:13.140 So, yeah, that was maybe the worst injury ever.

01:47:16.460 So, yeah.

01:47:19.400 So, the show that you have now, you have the special that's out.

01:47:23.220 Yeah.

01:47:23.580 Yeah.

01:47:23.820 It all came out just a few weeks ago.

01:47:27.180 The 28th or something, when was it?

01:47:28.460 Yeah.

01:47:29.060 Yeah.

01:47:29.620 It's –

01:47:30.260 And it's all on Amazon Prime.

01:47:31.660 On Prime.

01:47:32.400 It's – this is the Tom Green documentary and then the stand-up special.

01:47:39.100 It's called I Got a Mule.

01:47:40.400 I Got a Mule.

01:47:40.720 It talks about my life on the farm and getting my mule.

01:47:43.140 And then the show, which is – it's a four-episode sort of series of me moving to the farm called Tom Green Country.

01:47:50.100 And I recorded all the music for the show as well.

01:47:52.880 There's a country album that I put out, which is the soundtrack for the show, which is called Home to the Country, which is on Spotify.

01:47:59.880 It's called what?

01:48:00.540 It's called Home to the Country.

01:48:01.560 Home to the Country.

01:48:01.920 That's the name of the album.

01:48:04.120 And that's out on music, wherever you get music now.

01:48:07.740 And then I'm on tour.

01:48:08.500 I'm actually on tour.

01:48:09.260 I'm getting back in the camper van and we're going to start do a little bit more camping and touring around with my fiancee up through the desert.

01:48:17.160 And then we'll be picking up the tour again March 14th in Colorado.

01:48:22.880 And it'll be Colorado Springs, Aspen, upwards to – up through – where are we going?

01:48:28.920 Indianapolis, St. Louis.

01:48:30.460 All the dates are on my website, but to Chicago.

01:48:33.420 And so touring and driving back to Canada.

01:48:35.580 And then I'll be riding my mule all summer.

01:48:37.200 So when are you in Ottawa?

01:48:38.940 I'm going to be in Ottawa.

01:48:40.580 I'm not sure, actually.

01:48:41.800 I think sometime before the – I guess May, maybe.

01:48:44.180 Oh, cool, cool.

01:48:45.120 But I'll have to let you know before I'm going to come.

01:48:46.520 Yeah, I will definitely.

01:48:46.880 It would be so cool to come see the farm.

01:48:48.180 Yeah.

01:48:48.440 Do you think like with a lot of the new stuff you're shooting now or some of the stuff that I see on your YouTube channel, it's a little bit more artistic in some way?

01:48:56.880 I don't know if that's a word.

01:48:58.720 Yeah.

01:48:59.500 Yeah, it's definitely like not something that I expect to really go viral in a lot of ways because it's like very long-form stuff.

01:49:07.560 I just really like shooting like that.

01:49:09.920 I mean –

01:49:10.460 Yeah, do you notice you – like it almost seems like it's almost like you'd want to shoot like a feature, like a movie.

01:49:16.640 I can't tell.

01:49:17.820 I don't know because sometimes we have things that start to happen and then it becomes something else.

01:49:22.240 Yeah.

01:49:22.580 But when I'm watching it, I feel like I'm getting into a world.

01:49:29.020 Yeah.

01:49:29.160 That's what it feels like.

01:49:29.920 Yeah.

01:49:30.600 That's cool.

01:49:31.540 That's cool to know that you watched it because it sort of is sort of –

01:49:35.560 it's not like a mainstream comedy sort of piece that I'm putting on my YouTube channel right now.

01:49:42.020 It's – I want to kind of just capture what it feels like being out in the desert and in these amazing places or being on the farm with the animals.

01:49:49.440 And so I like shooting and capturing images that are sort of calming and beautiful and it is the kind of thing that – it's – the show is not like that.

01:50:04.280 The show is – there's a lot more going on.

01:50:05.880 But there is something nice about just kind of putting it on and sitting back and just kind of like – it's like an ASMR type of thing.

01:50:14.160 That's what it feels like.

01:50:14.760 It's like ASMR for your eyes kind of.

01:50:16.380 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:16.900 So it's interesting.

01:50:18.060 I mean I think a lot of it started just as me kind of like really trying to experiment with the cameras and just trying to figure out how to make these cameras work and capture the sort of the cinematography the way I want to capture it.

01:50:28.700 And I think that maybe it may evolve into something a little bit more faster paced at some point.

01:50:34.080 But right now it's just a lot of this sort of slice of life stuff that I put up on the YouTube channel and I have a podcast which I do one episode every six months or something like that.

01:50:45.620 I might start doing the podcast again and putting that up to kind of give people something a little bit more familiar to watch.

01:50:51.760 But right now, yeah, that's what it is.

01:50:53.380 I kind of just enjoy taking people to these places.

01:51:02.800 I mean I find it interesting that like everything is so fast paced now.

01:51:06.600 Like everything is so – people's attention spans are so short now that it's kind of interesting to sort of do something that's kind of not that.

01:51:16.260 And again, it's not – the algorithm doesn't really work in its favor.

01:51:22.560 You have to say something shocking within the first 10 seconds and then put some words on the screen and do all these things that you can do to really capture large audiences.

01:51:30.360 But if you do watch it, you sort of do kind of get sucked into a little secret universe in a way.

01:51:37.760 There's even little messages sometimes I'll put like 45 minutes into a video that will – if you made it that far, then you might say something in the comments and then I'll know that you actually watched 45 minutes.

01:51:51.160 And so there is a lot of people that do get it, which is fun.

01:51:55.780 And it's kind of neat to – it's impossible to capture the energy of what it's like out there in nature by doing something fast paced because so much of what's amazing about it is just the calm stillness of it also.

01:52:09.800 That's what it is on the YouTube channel.

01:52:11.780 It's a bit different but –

01:52:12.800 I think people are as desperate for that as they've ever been in some ways.

01:52:15.940 I think things have gotten – we're operating at a speed that we don't even feel comfortable in sometimes or our brains are having to.

01:52:24.780 But yeah, that's what it feels like.

01:52:26.000 It feels like some type of an ASMR or some – it feels calming, man.

01:52:30.620 That's what it feels like.

01:52:31.260 And yeah, I'm just curious because you're always – you've just always been a creator, you know.

01:52:35.580 You're just always creating.

01:52:37.020 You're always finding some way to – I don't know if it's in fact – to incite, to get a reaction out of people.

01:52:49.400 Yeah.

01:52:49.900 Right?

01:52:50.220 In some type of way.

01:52:51.360 Yeah.

01:52:51.680 It's cool.

01:52:52.000 It's weird today because there's so much energy online, like so much craziness and pranks and just like – just the insanity that you can see every day on your phone.

01:53:05.320 Like before you get out of bed, you're just like – if you pick up your phone and you get that in your head too early in your day, your whole day can be just kind of –

01:53:12.060 Oh, it's crazy.

01:53:12.080 But you started it.

01:53:13.520 Well.

01:53:15.560 That was just crazy.

01:53:18.440 But it's OK.

01:53:19.140 It's not a judgment.

01:53:19.800 You know, technology was changing at the same time.

01:53:22.420 We're glad you did, man.

01:53:24.340 We're glad you did, man.

01:53:25.700 Tom, thanks so much for all the entertainment over the years.

01:53:27.920 And yeah, man, I just appreciate you spending time with me.

01:53:31.440 Congratulations on the new engagement.

01:53:33.160 Thank you.

01:53:33.520 Thank you for having me on the show, Theo.

01:53:34.880 I mean, it's awesome, man.

01:53:35.900 I love the show and just appreciate you having me on.

01:53:39.880 Y'all want to come pet that donkey, man, when I get up there.

01:53:42.240 Absolutely.

01:53:42.720 Come pet the donkey, man.

01:53:43.720 You will.

01:53:44.380 I'll be up there.

01:53:45.280 OK.

01:53:46.320 All right.

01:53:46.740 Thanks, Tom.

01:53:47.180 Thanks, man.

01:53:47.620 I'm just floating on the breeze.

01:53:50.020 And I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:53:52.980 I must be cornerstone.

01:53:58.280 Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:54:03.720 I can feel it in my bones.

01:54:07.100 But it's going to take...

01:54:10.100 I can feel my body is on the ground.

01:54:22.880 I'm just walking gamacht.

01:54:24.340 I must have it in my body.

01:54:25.540 I'll��ode in my body.

01:54:26.180 And I'm just camping.

01:54:27.640 I've found you.

01:54:28.560 I'll лич it in my life.

01:54:30.740 I'll以 donne to my body.

01:54:32.200 I'll be помощью晶 lands.

01:54:33.160 I'll be the end of the journey.

01:54:34.940 I can feel it in my own mãe.

01:54:35.640 So here' thing I want top 0.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - February 20, 2025

E564 Tom Green

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