Follow Up: What is an American? | This Past Weekend #31
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 2 minutes
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168.53018
Summary
In this episode, Theo talks about what it means to be an American in a small town and the benefits of living in a community where there are less people. He also talks about some of the things he noticed about life in a smaller town.
Transcript
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Don't matter what you have, it'll cure what ails you.
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And that right there is Jason Rivera, and that song is titled People on the Bus.
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I want to thank you for sending that in, brother.
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This past follow-up, we are talking about America, what it means to be an American.
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And that's Jason Rivera sent that in, and that song is from America.
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We had a lot of great calls talking about America, what it means to be an American today to you and to me.
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You know what, I'm going to start off, you know, I'll just reiterate a little bit.
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You know, I told you guys that I spent my weekend in small-town America, 1,400 people.
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To me, that's about as small as you could get and still be what felt like a town to me.
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You know, it was a family-first type of environment.
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It was almost like having, you know, in busier cities and in wealthier environments, it was almost like having money.
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Rumors were, you know, like, did you hear this or did you hear that, you know?
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Because with less people, words, they hang in the air longer.
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You know, like the kind of like the seminal spray of a lean seahorse.
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Picture a seahorse jumping out of the water and spraying out its nuts out into the air.
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That's going to be a beautiful mist, something fine that's going to hang in the air.
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And that's how the rumors are in a smaller town.
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They tend to hang in the air more because there's less people.
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So when something is said, it hangs around longer.
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Getting up early, showing that you were awake to your neighbors, probably to your children.
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Going to church was important, not only for religious purposes, but also as a social event
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I ran into a few different families that had foster children.
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And you might say, well, Theo, that's nothing, you know?
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Well, I've lived in Los Angeles for a long time.
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I've met a few people that have had foster children.
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Now, a foster child is, sometimes there are children that have, you know, their parents
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Something's wrong with their brain or something's wrong with their, they might have addiction.
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And those children will go into foster homes where people whose families are functioning
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You also have children that are just going to be straight up adopted.
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And I saw a lot of that in this smaller town environment.
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I'm not saying this is every small town, but I'm just telling you some things that I noticed.
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And for being in that small of an environment to see a couple different families that had
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Keeping your yard, you know, just the grass cut.
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You know, keep your dirty laundry off the clothesline.
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It can be there for a couple days, but it doesn't need to be hanging out there for a month.
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I liked having this semblance of responsibility because it was a smaller environment.
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You felt more liable to your peers because there were so few of them, you know, and more
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There was a little bit of drinking, you know, probably as much as anywhere else.
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But in a small town, like if you drink a lot, it's going to, you're going to be the town drunk pretty quick.
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So I think like what you do and who you are in a smaller environment resonates more because it means more to you because there's less people there to see it.
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And because, you know, with a smaller environment, less people to see it.
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That means that your actions, they really speak volumes because you probably don't get a million chances to impress people.
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That was my America this past weekend in a small town.
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And then it got me to thinking after last episode of this past weekend, what was my America, you know, personally?
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And we're going to get into some calls here in just a few minutes, but I just want to tell you what my America was like.
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There have been many times where I felt like I didn't do things.
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But I never felt like I couldn't have achieved.
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One of my best friends I remember asked me one time, he said,
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Theo, have you ever worked really hard at something and not achieved it?
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And I'm not trying to brag about myself, but I never worked really hard at something and not achieved it.
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I've had goals that I didn't achieve, surely, but that I really gave it my all.
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Or, you know, spend time petting the neighbor's animals when I should have been out there running track.
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I remember I got this, one time I was trying to be this, when the school spelling bee,
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and somebody gave us one of those electric worm rods.
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And those worm rods, you put them in the ground, you plug them in, and it electrocutes the ground, and the worms come up.
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I mean, it's like, you know, when, you know, it's like parting the seas almost, and just worms, worms.
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And you put the stick in, and boom, worms fly up.
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Anywhere you plug it in at, this electrical worm rod.
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And I remember getting addicted to using that for probably about three weeks.
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And I could have done better if I'd have tried.
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And I think a lot of them, if they're listening to this, will hear that and be like,
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But then if they really start thinking around, they'll be like, yeah, he's probably right.
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I didn't come from really from the spelling belt.
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But anyhow, I got that worm rod, and I wasn't focused, and I didn't do well on the spelling bee.
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Actually, a pregnant girl beat me in fifth grade.
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Anyhow, but I'd never worked really hard at something and not been able to achieve it.
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And that was, I think that's just a testament to the fact that we live in America.
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She didn't have the greatest employment, but she worked hard.
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And she never left me with a feeling that I couldn't.
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You know, I think she always left me with a feeling that as long as I got educated, that I could.
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And then I naturally just felt in America that as long as I made an effort, that I would always have opportunity.
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You know, that opportunity was always going to be there.
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The second thing is that you can share your opinion.
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I just want to establish a little bit more of my foundation.
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Because this whole thing got me to thinking, what did America mean to me?
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Some of you guys are probably wondering, well, Theo, why wasn't the episode up on Thursday morning?
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The second thought for me was that I can share my opinion.
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Though I think that some people should have to be licensed these days to have an opinion.
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Because with stuff like Twitter and all this, any MOOC, you know, gets to have one.
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If you were really ignorant, you still got to have an opinion.
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That's one thing you naturally feel here in America.
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That's another feeling that I think about when I think about America.
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You know, growing up, I didn't live in the safest neighborhood.
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I felt like our neighborhood, our town, our city, our state was safe.
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Even though we were in a battle for, I think, first, like, last place for good drinking water.
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But we weren't at, like, you know, at physical odds.
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And that's a blessing that America's always had.
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I mean, they would ask first if they could attack us.
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They are, you know, the most kindred people, usually.
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Mexico's not going to attack us because they're all here.
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So, I mean, they'd have to leave and then come attack.
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So, you know, we've just been so fortunate geographically.
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I mean, so many other countries are at war with their neighbors.
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I've had the shitty, you know, my step-parents still have a shitty batch of neighbors over there.
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And the Ottmans, these guys are a bunch of damn devils.
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You know, they've got nine children and all of them, you know, just look like they've got extra bones in their face and whatever.
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They're not bad people, but they're bad neighbors.
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And I think some of that came from just a pride that was in the air.
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I think there were different views and different political parties.
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You always felt like somebody had the best interests of America.
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And I remember a few years ago, I wandered out of a buddy's apartment complex.
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Because your emotions, when I would see, I just saw the men walking down the street and the flags.
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And you think of all the wars where people didn't come home.
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Because your emotions, I mean, they will come to the surface of your skin.
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And you can feel these just whirlpools of just, just tenderness and damn, just like, just like, just like somebody filled your neck in your, in your face with warm, in your cheeks with warm apple cobbler.
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A lot of times your emotions will basically ejaculate out of your eyes with salt water.
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And that's what happened to me watching that Veterans Day parade was seeing these men and just seeing the pride that they all had this one thing in common, that they had supported this flag, that they had supported this idea of America.
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And maybe that's a romanticized idea, but I would rather have a romanticized idea than the alternative, which is having no pride in our country.
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There was, there was more of that back then it felt like.
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And now I just don't know if you see it as much.
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You know, the flag felt like a real thing to me.
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I don't know if I was young, but the flag felt like a real thing.
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You know, we had to say the Pledge of Allegiance at school, I think just on Friday.
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But we all got up and we said it together and we crossed our, you know, we crossed our, our chest with our hand and we said it.
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And it wasn't that everybody was like, fuck yeah, America, you know, at the end of it.
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And it felt like, oh, we're all on the same team.
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If something happens or something comes in here and invades us, I don't care if it's a, you know, back then it was Cuba or Russia or Guam.
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I don't care if it's, you know, one of those, one of those forces.
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I don't care if it's some, you know, creaky old angry vulture that flies in here, you know, and is just, you know, trying to bite people's necks and stuff and just damn, just beak people's eyelashes off their face or whatever.
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But it felt like anything that came in, we had each other and that we were going to be supportive of each other.
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I felt fortunate to live in America and now it feels as if the American flag, it's like when they show it on TV, they show it sometimes, it's like in this context that we should be ashamed of it.
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Like it's only representative of, of people that aren't open-minded.
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I'm happy to be reminded of the other side and you can hit the hotline and tell me about that.
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But, but I just feel sometimes like they're trying to show it in a way that we should be ashamed.
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You know, like what are you doing with yourselves, America?
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Like it's, it's the, it's, it burns me up when I meet Americans that, that aren't even supportive of America.
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You know, and I even meet, I meet some of them through work and everything where it's like you see a lot of, of it in, I think, bigger cities where there's a lot more diversity.
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You know, and people voting for the interest of their, of the country that they came from, you know, but not voting for the interest of, of America.
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Um, but that's, that's wild to me because I guess I just could never imagine that, you know, it's like you can't, you, if you're here, you vote for here, you know, you vote for what you think is best for here.
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Because I don't have any issue with the countries that some of these people might be from, that they might do this sort of thing, but it upsets me to hear that.
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You know, I'm happy that you're from another country.
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I'm happy that you live here and that your children live here and you make money here, whatever.
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But I find it, to me, rude that you should favor that country, whatever your country is that your, your parents or grandparents are from, than the one that you currently live and prosper in.
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I think that's selfish and I think that's rude and a country that you receive military safety from, you know, if your home country is so phenomenal, then just stay there and vote for what you want to there.
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But at least if you're going to be in America, at least be supportive of America.
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Now, those are my thoughts and feelings being an American and not being from somewhere else and living here.
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But I, you know, I do wonder if I lived in another country, how would I behave?
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You know, if I lived in, in Spain, would I vote for, and there was an election, would I vote for whatever's best for America?
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You know, or would I vote for what's best for Spain?
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You know, it's easy for me to sit here and say that I wouldn't, but I don't know.
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You know, I don't know for sure, but I do know that I don't expect you to live here and not support this nation.
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You know, sure, was this nation built upon, you know, the backs of slavery and greed and, and countless negative things?
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I think a lot of those things are just how humanity has played out.
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I think they are infections and just how humanity's played out.
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But we can't entirely condemn our current state for the atrocities of, of times long ago.
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You know, we can't, you know, just keep beating ourselves up for things that we weren't even doing.
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We can try to repair, but we can't just keep beating ourselves up for a past that we were not even alive for.
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And that if we had the chance to play out again, that we probably wouldn't do.
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The old, what's up, you overconfident cool young?
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Man, I was calling in to tell you, I think the greatest thing about America is civil discourse.
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I can think one thing, you can think another thing, and we all good.
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Now, this gentleman said, call me a cool young.
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Now, he's just saying you, you know, that's Cajun lingo for you, you know, you little shit boy or whatever, you wild shit man, feces, pepper boy, you know, something like that.
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And he's saying that civil discourse, we can agree to disagree, or we can at least disagree.
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Anyway, I think the biggest problem facing us here in the great land of America is overpopulation.
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I don't have a real good answer to that, at least not one that most people would describe to.
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We're going to run ourselves out of land and food.
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I mean, I think there's, yeah, there's a cure for overpopulation.
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You know, you can, you can, you can stop people from having other people.
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And I've said this before, you can take people's nuts, you can take kids nuts, you know, and give them back later when they have proven that they are contributing members of society, you know.
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And I don't think that just the rich are going to be contributing members.
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I think you're going to have all types, you know.
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But I think that would create a desire amongst young men to want to do better and do their best.
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Now, overpopulation, yeah, I mean, it's a real, it's a fact that you're talking about.
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I mean, the amount of resources we have and the rate that we are creating more people is unbelievable, especially in America.
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And now what you have in your refrigerator looks like a lot less.
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We use, I read somewhere that the average American uses eight times the average amount of, you know, food and water and whatever.
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And when you think about it, you don't see, you know, a fat Indian.
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You know, and he was being greedy at the pork plate.
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But you don't see a lot of fat Chinese, you know.
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If they got a fat Chinese, they make them wrestle.
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You know, if they got a fat Chinese, they're suddenly famous wrestlers.
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You know, or they're in these videos shooting each other and, you know, with air pistols and with paint guns.
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And as the population increases, boy, shit is going to be set off.
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You're going to see a couple of mooks out in the street, a couple of brothers out there beating each other down for a couple of sticks of celery.
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And the least aggressive of humans will lose out, you know.
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You're telling me you're going to wrestle a couple of carrot sticks away from a real strong brother out of Florida?
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Is this something that's going to happen to us now overpopulation?
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But can you imagine if they started to put stipulations on how many children you can have?
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All these women who are, and I'm talking violent women, nasty women, or some of these nasty women, not all.
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Some of these super nasty, the kind who are wearing capes and just flying around eating their pussy, they would be upset.
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They would be very upset, even though they don't even have children.
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And then you would have some people, you know, you'd have Christian uprising for sure.
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You know, because a lot of that is go forth and populate.
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You'd have a lot of different variations and levels of people not wanting to put humanity first.
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It's like we don't want to put the extension of humanity first.
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It's like we just don't want to admit that we all are going to die.
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I mean, because we almost feel like we're at a point where we can beat it or something.
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So anyway, not to try and get Debbie Downers on you.
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But, you know, we're talking about America and that serious stuff, you know.
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Now, the next one we had in right here was a text.
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I told you I started a podcast with my uncle called The Red Podcast.
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You definitely touched on some chords about America.
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They forgot that America is the place that people from other countries literally die to fucking come here.
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They forgot what made this country great, which is you can be,
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you can make yourself anything you want to be with maximum effort.
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He says this younger generation has been coddled into believing they don't have to work.
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If people would strive for the best and to be the best, everything would be different.
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And I appreciate our previous caller calling in.
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I mean, I really feel like it's become an infection.
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You know, for once, I'd like to see a politician say, hey, get off your ass.
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Because you and your laziness are killing America.
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Because we're only good as our lowest common denominator.
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And there's this laziness out there that's been created that we don't seem to be able to beat.
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You know, I feel like we've had, we've gotten so comfortable that it's become, we've been infected by comfort.
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You know, it's like, like I think it's a product of too much comfort.
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Like you'd picture like this big fat rich guy just being lazy.
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And just, you know, sitting around us eating artichoke hearts.
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And just, you know, having, you know, hookers blow cocaine into his eyes.
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And, you know, having Chinese kids just, just fucking choke each other out in the yard for entertainment and shit like that.
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But now the rich are working harder and the poor, a lot of the poor, just seem to have given up.
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And I'm not, this is just, these are some thoughts that I have.
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But I wonder, has the ability to make it out of poverty become too steep?
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You know, has that ability, has it become too steep to even make it out that people are just like, ah, fuck it.
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I'll just live off the government as long as I have a cell phone.
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And if you're someone who's in that strata, you know, that socioeconomic class, call in and let me know.
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Do you feel like if you are poor that you've lost hope?
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You know, I mean, there's a lot that keep the poor down.
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You know, if you're rich and you get a pill addiction, you got some easy way, you know, you can go to a fancy place to get better.
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But you're poor, you're battling these opioids, man, it's all, I mean, it's tougher when you don't have money.
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You know, when I was young, it was mostly like booze that was keeping people sick, you know, at the bottom rungs of society.
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Are there too many things with these strong opioids and with these methadone and, you know, and just to get to that higher level, to get out of that lower strata?
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Do you think we've just been infected by taking care of people so much that even people who have dreams, they're just like, ah, they're too far.
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Have we made it too comfortable for people, all people, not just poor people, but have we made it too comfortable?
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Have we achieved just such a basic level of comfort that we are killing that desire, you know, that we're killing that desire to want to do better?
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Are we infected by our own level of basic comfort?
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Because it does seem like these days, if you have a cell phone, you're kept entertained and that's enough.
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Like when I was growing up, we didn't have health insurance, I remember.
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There were times where we did have it and then there were times where we just didn't have it.
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My mother was like, you can't play that, you can't go play football at the school because if you get hurt, you're just going to be that boy who's got his arm tied to the side of his body for the rest of his life.
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And we've all gotten a little bit infected by laziness.
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And I look around and I say to myself, man, if I go back to sleep right now, tomorrow will be exactly the same.
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Instagram and social media, it's made us all kind of celebrities in a way.
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You know, I remember we were, I think, eight years old before we got a VCR.
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And we don't even want to show ourselves working hard on our Instagrams and stuff, if you notice that.
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We want to show ourselves, you know, whizzing around in benzes and being amazing and beating the fuck out of magicians.
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And if you don't know that, then now you know that, dude.
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You know, social media, it doesn't convey the human spirit very well.
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You know, social media does not convey the human spirit very well.
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Is something going on today in the society where we've killed it in America?
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You know, I remember I used to cut timber when I was young with this boy, this fellow who was mentally retarded.
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And I'm not making fun of him for being retarded.
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You know, and I still would love him if I saw him because he's still alive.
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But I used to cut timber with him when I was working on this farm.
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And they call him Slack Ronnie because he was slack in his brain, you know?
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But he was a good guy and he loved the Boston Celtics and he always called me Cad Daddy.
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But he almost cut my leg off one time when we were working together because I had a tan and he kind of thought that my leg was birch, you know, was a birch branch.
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Ronnie worked hard, you know, because he still had spirit in him that wasn't affected.
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And even though he was mentally handicapped, they still let him get out there with his spirit.
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Even though he was mentally unwell, you know, even though part of his brain was dormant, you know, even though if his brain was a birdhouse, they wouldn't have maybe but one bird a year stopping by and probably wouldn't lay any eggs, maybe just shit in the corner.
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But he was, but they still let him work because he had the spirit.
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And now the government, if you mentally disabled, if you slack, they're happy at just giving you a little bit of money.
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Laziness is even at the, you know, that's a weird outlier to look at, but it's real.
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And it makes me wonder about laziness and not catering to our spirit, to the human spirit, to the American spirit.
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Cause this was 22 years ago, but the mentally ill were working back then and they were working hard.
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They didn't even let me run the damn chainsaw cause I had less experience.
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Here's this dude have the, he has the mental experience of probably a nine year old, but because a year and a half of that nine years was running chainsaw.
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Well, he got to run it and I'm out there risking getting my leg cut off, even though I'm 22 years old.
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And today, if you're mentally ill, people don't want you working because somehow it became bad for you.
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You know, too many people that aren't even mentally ill decided it was safer for the mentally ill not to work.
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I didn't mean to get in all that off that text, but let's take another, another caller here.
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I was having a couple of beers and your podcast came up.
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What does it mean to be an American these days?
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I'm happy that you woke up or couldn't sleep and, uh, decided to have a couple of beers, man.
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And then you seem to indicate that maybe isolationism was the answer, but I don't think it is.
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I mean, the worst terrorist attack we had in 2001 when they took down those buildings,
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we didn't try and run away and hide ourselves and build walls around ourselves and keep people we thought might be bad out.
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We just, you know, straighten our shoulders and move forward.
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He's saying, um, you know, that it's not a time for America to shut down and to look inward, I'm guessing.
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Um, but, uh, but to straighten our shoulders out and go forward.
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And I think that's what we have to do with every one of these cowardly attacks.
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Most of them don't come from outside sources anyway.
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Most of them come from people who are here who are idiots and get converted with propaganda.
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Anyway, I don't think the way forward is to hide.
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Um, I don't know if you kind of understood what I was saying.
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I appreciate your call and you're saying steady our shoulders, you know, don't isolate.
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Um, but I guess I don't know what you mean exactly.
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Cause I don't think that un-American-ness is coming from outside of us these days.
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You know, after 9-11, we steadied our shoulders and we moved forward, right?
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Everyone was American and we were, you know, wondering who did this and what's the best,
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how do we get these, you know, do we take revenge?
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I think Bush administration tried to take revenge.
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And I think that Obama's administration tried to more lead by example of not taking revenge.
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Um, but everyone I felt like was America first, at least for right after 9-11.
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But now what's happening to America is the division, it's here.
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The division isn't coming from, you know, I don't think the division is coming really
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I mean, they're definitely, the more we diversify ourself, the more different ideas we will have
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But I feel like there's this, there's a, there's a division amongst, amongst pre-existing
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Americans, you know, that we don't have an enemy, that we're finding the enemy amongst ourselves.
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You know, I don't feel like we're isolating as much as we are dividing.
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You know, I don't feel like America's sticking together against the bad guy, whatever that
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But I feel like that America is turning at each other and thinking each other is the bad
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You know, you can say keep the shop open and don't hide, but I don't think we're hiding
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from anyone as much as we are facing off against each other, you know, if that makes any sense
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And I also don't think things are as bad as the media makes them out to be.
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But I'm thinking more like what is, how are we on, just like what makes us American or
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So that might've been a little bit off of, off a topic, your call, but thank you anyhow.
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Hey, Theo, this is Jeff calling you from Colorado.
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Just about your, what is America these days or what does it mean to be an American?
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And I think that you kind of touched on it when you said we all have a different idea
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of what that means, depending on where we are in the country and, you know, even the
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people that don't, that aren't proud of the country, that think that it's full of deplorables
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And that's the great thing about it is that we are free to believe whatever we want to
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We're free to believe whatever we want to believe.
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We are getting to the point where we'll be able to have live callers.
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But I do want you to know that that is an end goal of mine or a goal of mine.
00:41:47.360
But anyhow, let's get back to your call here, Jeff.
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Yeah, people have the opportunity to celebrate our country or not.
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But I guess I wish, and it could be selfish, that everyone should celebrate our country
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And, you know, I mean, out of many, one, right?
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So I just think that we all need to remember that on a fundamental level, we all agree that
00:42:27.920
And if we start there, it's easier to have conversations about difficult topics if we
00:42:33.700
can find common ground first and then build up from that.
00:42:36.280
So anyway, yeah, don't be ashamed to fly those flags because this is the greatest country
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I've had some issues up there at different altitudes, but I've always enjoyed myself.
00:42:52.420
I mean, you know, you say as long as we are on the same common ground, but I don't know
00:42:59.640
And some people, you know, like you're in the election, you have people saying they would
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It's just, it's just such a spoiled kind of vibe.
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I mean, there's a vibe by some in America that the American flag is negative.
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You know, if you wave a flag, an American flag at an intersection in Los Angeles or maybe
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not New York City as much, but in Los Angeles, people might view you as a troublemaker.
00:43:37.960
You know, it feels like, you know, like the television, like they don't, you know, that
00:43:43.920
they would make it seem that, that they would make it seem that way, you know?
00:43:48.740
You know, and maybe part of that's because, you know, during the election, the most recent
00:43:52.720
presidential election, you had Trump that used the red, white, and blue flag, the American
00:43:58.640
And then Hillary created sort of this different emblem with the H and the arrow.
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And so I don't know if maybe that started some of it, that, you know, it put a different
00:44:09.760
emblem up there for people that were supporting one direction as opposed to people that were
00:44:21.900
Do we all agree that, that this is the greatest place to live?
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Because I feel like, I feel like we should, but I don't know if I'm able to comprehend the
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different perspectives that would make me feel like I would say that we shouldn't.
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You know, I don't know if I'm able to, it's hard to see other people's perspectives.
00:44:48.840
They always say like, well, put your person in that person's shoes, but it's so hard to
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And I think we've just been getting a lot of perspectives these days.
00:45:02.000
And everybody's perspective is magnified because, you know, the news is entertainment now.
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And as long as they can create controversy, they'll do it.
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But I don't know if we're all on, if we all agree on that.
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And if we do, we might do it for different reasons, you know.
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I think some people see America more as like just a grounds for profit.
00:45:23.900
Some people see it more as like a land of liberty.
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And a lot of us probably just see it as both, you know, something in between.
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But I think that some people have been affected or infected really by the American dream.
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You know, some people are living the American dream.
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You know, because I think the American dream can be an infection.
00:46:01.020
I mean, how can you have gratitude when you've never had to be grateful for anything?
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And I'm not saying that the wealthy are ungrateful or that they're un-American.
00:46:16.100
But I do sense a vibe amongst the uber-wealthy, like a sense of kind of entitlement that feels like an infection.
00:46:29.760
I've sensed it sometimes in myself, you know, and I'm not uber-wealthy.
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I mean, but I have been blessed to transcend class in my life, you know.
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But I grew up poor, below the poverty line, you know.
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I mean, I grew up, you know, when I really think about it, I just grew up poor.
00:47:00.140
And I was ashamed of it for a long time and whatever.
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But anyhow, but I've been blessed now to transcend class.
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So I'm able to see what other people are seeing.
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And I even sometimes will see the poorest of the poor now.
00:47:13.260
And some of the stuff that they do or their vibe, it's sometimes it just, it makes me sad, you know.
00:47:20.800
Whereas years ago, that would have been my tribe, you know, or whatever.
00:47:26.940
But I question the motive of people, you know, who live here and who make their money here
00:47:31.160
and pull their wealth from America but say that it's not the place to live.
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Or who refer to others as, you know, as deplorable.
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You know, like I said earlier, we're just our lowest common denominator.
00:47:48.900
But I do notice that when you achieve the American dream
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and you are able to start to live in it, that you get comfortable.
00:47:57.460
And I think that if people are born into it and have had just that extensiveness of it their whole life,
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Also, there's not even a fable or a tale in their family, you know, to be passed down.
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That how are they going to have any gratitude to live and gratitude for people that are still suffering to achieve their dreams?
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It's like when you live at Disney World, how can you know it's Disney World?
00:48:31.200
I wonder if it's probably very rare that some parents are able to recognize their level of success and their environment
00:48:38.240
and still able to teach their kids, you know, how to handle themselves and how to live decently
00:48:46.680
in a world where a lot of people aren't as fortunate as they are.
00:48:51.860
I can feel it sometimes in myself at certain moments, you know.
00:48:57.100
And I feel like America's gotten to the point where we're kind of steadying our shoulders.
00:49:05.520
And I think America's saying enough of these politicians that don't serve us.
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If you want to open your mind and think about this stuff, there's a lot.
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I grew up in the inner city, and I just wanted to talk about what America means to me.
00:49:55.080
Now, this is kind of the call I was looking for.
00:49:58.280
And other people have done it, but I'm liking this.
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Growing up, I didn't have a lot of opportunity, but I had a lot more than somebody in my position
00:50:09.660
My brother chose to go enlist in 2001 to the Iraq War.
00:50:16.120
That was, I mean, some of the things he's talked about and the problems he's had after.
00:50:21.380
And just to take the chance to go out and know you could die just to make a better life
00:50:31.300
There's a lot of stuff there in his family where, you know, you grow up, you see those
00:50:34.800
pictures of your family and your siblings in the military and that outfit and that uniform.
00:50:42.140
You know, not knowing what their lives are like and what their, you know, their futures are going
00:50:49.940
You know, he, his dad jumped off a boat from Lithuania in the New York Harbor to come to
00:51:05.200
His, Tom's grandfather jumped off of a ship in Lithuania to come to America.
00:51:10.180
Dude, these days, people could be docked, you know, 40 feet off the coast and would die
00:51:19.320
on some cruise just because they don't have the heart to swim back to shore.
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They, you know, they just physically think they couldn't.
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I've always felt really, really proud to be an American.
00:51:36.360
I think it's kind of silly when you see some people that are like, well, you're not diverse
00:51:41.660
I mean, these people that are always complaining online, doing all this mess, those are the
00:51:48.580
I think you, we, social media privileges should be a privilege.
00:51:53.160
You know, they should be something you have to earn.
00:51:57.580
You have to go look somebody in the eye somewhere and tell them you aren't a fucking moron.
00:52:04.860
I just want to go even, even more rural because it's just, the people are nicer.
00:52:15.100
I don't consider myself a religious person, but I don't see anything wrong with religion.
00:52:19.920
When I come to work at least twice a week, someone gives me a hug and says that Jesus loves
00:52:24.540
And I'm, I grew up Jewish and I just tell them, you know, Jesus loves you too, man.
00:52:30.160
And Jesus, I mean, it's just, there's nothing wrong with being positive when it's so easy
00:52:43.240
I got a little bit of a sprinkle in my eye, you know, like mother nature's trying to just
00:52:47.160
piss out of my fucking eye holes with saltwater urine.
00:53:11.340
And this might be a traditional view, but this, you know, to me, this resonates and maybe
00:53:17.360
I'm old fashioned, you know, but to me, this resonates.
00:53:22.200
The thing about this, if you make $35,000 a year, you're in the 1% of the entire world.
00:53:28.320
We get so mad at the 1% of the entire world of our country that we forget that $35,000
00:53:35.680
in this country, you made that in almost any other country, any third world country,
00:53:49.480
So we think about the 1% of America and think about how much money they have.
00:53:53.120
But then if you were to take anybody that makes $35,000 a year, that that is the top
00:54:03.580
I don't know if that's accurate or not, but God damn, that sounds beautiful if it's
00:54:14.920
If you were born 100 years earlier, your life would have been so much harder.
00:54:21.520
Nobody's grateful of how many opportunities we have.
00:54:26.240
Thanks for the, thanks for everything you do, man.
00:55:11.600
I'm just going to read you some excerpts from it.
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My husband and son still serve in the military.
00:55:24.880
Hard work, integrity, class, strength, knowledge, and empathy.
00:55:33.840
I'm from NorCal, but we moved here to Oregon when our boys were six and nine to give them
00:55:47.320
Crop circles may be in your future in that mullet haircut.
00:56:04.980
I ran away at 14 and left my mom until I got pregnant and then I needed her.
00:56:09.960
I have stories, but I have so much love for my man that was by me for 23 years with two
00:56:29.720
For one, you can feel the love in that woman's text.
00:56:49.440
She talks about her life, but she doesn't talk about her.
00:57:05.060
Kind of like Uncle Sam was just, you know, gleeking on my back.
00:57:09.200
And just like Aerosmith was just singing directly into my ears.
00:57:20.620
I want to know, though, if you hit the hotline.
00:57:24.000
A buddy of mine was telling me recently about how a man took advantage of him one time when he was unconscious.
00:57:31.480
You know, when he was, you know, male taking advantage of kind of stuff.
00:57:35.540
And I want to know if that kind of stuff goes on out there.
00:57:37.560
You know, I just, I don't know if it does, but I've wondered that.
00:57:45.080
And then also somebody called in about booty goons.
00:57:47.880
I don't know if you guys know what booty goons are.
00:57:50.700
But we'll get to that coming up in this coming episode that will come out on Monday.
00:58:02.660
Next week, I'll be in Orlando at the Orlando Improv, 13th through the 16th.
00:58:15.800
The 27th through the 30th, I'll be in Montreal at Just for Laughs.
00:58:19.400
And then Dallas, Texas, I'm coming to the Addison Improv.
00:58:28.640
I have two albums out, 30 Pound Bag of Hamster Bones and Musket Fire.
00:58:40.920
I appreciate you guys thinking about America with me.
00:58:45.920
And it's time for us to keep our minds open and to think.
00:58:54.120
But thank you guys so much for hitting the hotline.
00:59:09.660
Still considering Patreon, but I haven't gotten that put together yet.
00:59:13.880
And I just thank you guys for supporting the podcast.
00:59:16.680
If you have an idea for next week or for the week after, something you want to talk about,
00:59:20.560
something you want to think about, let me know.
00:59:22.760
If we get any more follow-up calls to this discussion about America, I'll include some
00:59:34.420
So some of those I'll incorporate into the Monday episode.
00:59:38.820
I'm going to take us out again with some of the same tunes that brought us in.
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You've got to start to remember this stuff in your life as a consumer.
01:00:27.380
Because whatever you support financially is what will continue to prosper.
01:00:33.600
So if you're sick of the entertainment you're getting out there, then quit supporting it.
01:00:42.820
You know, I'm so sick of seeing the most talented people I know.
01:00:48.700
But I'm talking about some talented friends who don't get opportunities.
01:00:53.100
Just because they're not in that money world yet.
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And feel free to hit that hotline and tell me anything you think.
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I just want to try and just keep moving forward, man.
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01:02:20.720
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