H3's Ethan Klein | This Past Weekend #244
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1 hour and 46 minutes
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203.39781
Summary
In this episode of the H3PODCAST, we have a special guest, Ethan Klein. Ethan and his wife have a new baby, a baby boy, and they are trying to figure out what to name him. Ethan talks about his struggles with eating disorders and how he s dealing with them. We also talk about his experience with his grandmother and how she disbarred him for eating candies.
Transcript
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All right. I want to let you know before we begin the episode, a couple dates that are rescheduled.
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These are rescheduled dates. February 27th, the Sayersville, New Jersey date has now been moved.
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And it is February 27th in Red Bank, New Jersey at the Count Bassey Center for the Arts.
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It's going to be the Count Bassey Center for the Dark Arts that night.
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But those tickets go on sale Friday at 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
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As well, the next night, I will be in Oxen Hill, Maryland at the theater at MGM National Harbor.
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That is a rescheduled date. And it is now on February 28th. Oxen Hill, Maryland. It's back on.
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So if you had tickets before, then you will still have tickets.
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Yes. They should be emailing you. So you may want to touch base with your email.
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Today's guest is a young man. We became buddies on his podcast.
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And I don't even like saying the word buddies, actually, so I'm not going to say it again.
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H3 podcast. And he got some new child, him and his wife.
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I've been on a feeding window, which is a funny way of saying intermediate fasting.
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I know what you're talking about. Fasting sometimes.
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I like the feeding window analogy because it just sounds funny.
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Like I just eat out of a trough for eight hours and then go into fasting.
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I could see something around your neck full of nuts or beans.
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Just a feeding bag around my neck at all times.
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So it's good for me because my urge is to eat all the time.
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I feel like it cuts down on a lot of late night snacking.
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Dude, my grandmother didn't let me come visit her for 10 years at one point in Ireland.
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She, um, there were some, we had some discrepancies at the house and then she said I couldn't come visit.
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Well, no, she said I ate some candies at her house and I didn't.
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You, you don't get, you don't get banished from your grandma with candies.
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Your grandma disbarred you over some Werther's classics?
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She made these good cookies and I didn't get to have those for a long time, but.
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Well, now that I know that the show is going, what were we talking about?
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Because I was interested if we could go take a step back.
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Yeah, we were talking about, oh, welcome to the Bill Burr recovery group.
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I mean, I was having a depressive episode for a long time.
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And I had these antidepressants next to my bed for a long time.
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And after that episode with Bill Burr, I came home and I, that's when I started taking
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And was it soul crushing because you felt like as an interviewer, it was soul crushing
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Like, do you think, do you know the levels where it felt that it hit you?
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My, my fans were, I don't know, fans, but audience were very harsh.
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It wasn't, you know, it wasn't, it didn't feel that bad, but it was the reaction, the
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I mean, I knew I had goofed up and that it was not the best interview and I was such a
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big fan of Bill Burr, obviously, who isn't, he's, he's a legend.
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And you just, in your mind, have high hopes that, that you'll be able to, to get something
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There's expectations, I feel like, but the, the, the, there was people making like video
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essays about how, what a terrible, you know, interviewer I am.
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That's kind of stuff I'm, I'm somewhat used to, but, um, that just felt, I just, it felt
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Cause I, I was having a hard time with the podcast and interviews in general.
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And that for me was just kind of like the culmination of a lot of, a lot of stress.
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So it was like, so in hindsight though, does it almost feel like it was, it was, it was
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Like it was like, oh, I needed something that kind of made me look at stuff or just gave
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Well, I definitely needed something to push me because taking antidepressants going to
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therapy was like the best choice I ever made for me and my family and professionally too.
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So, I mean, if it wasn't that, it'd be something else.
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But, um, but that was like a little bit of, somehow it was part of a catalyst.
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And I had him on a second time somewhat recently and, uh, it went great.
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When he came in here, it was a strange experience, man.
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I just felt like he was a different person, not on podcasts than he was on podcasts.
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It's almost like, but then also I didn't really know him that great.
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Oh, I mean, I, I doubt he doesn't mean everybody's busy.
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I listen to some of those murder things, you know, where people get murdered.
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But some guy went walking into the woods in the Joshua tree and fucking never came out.
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There's a podcast that's called like missing people or something.
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Do you feel like that when you talk about Bill Burr, like a missing person?
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I felt like, oh, I felt like it was a couple of minutes where afterwards I was just kind
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of wandering around, you know, but I don't know.
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When you guys ended, I mean, it was, it was clearly, you knew it wasn't going well during,
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No, I knew that there was something uncomfortable.
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I thought for a second, like maybe I was going crazy or I was like getting pranked.
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I'm just like, oh, well, he and I, obviously there's only so much time that we probably,
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one of the reasons maybe we don't talk that much is because we.
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It's because we shouldn't talk that much, you know?
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I just thought here's a guy who is very, he's exactly what I thought when I, if I really
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would have looked at it, oh, here's a guy who maybe this is exactly the way he is on
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There's not a way for, there's no real difference, you know?
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It's just, he's just rambling kind of like if he's unhappy, he's unhappy and he, you know,
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eternally disgruntled, kind of, you know, guy who's kind of fighting against his own
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Looks like all of us are in some weird ways, but for him, maybe it's like a, just a different
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And also that he, he likes to, that he's the center of attention a lot, I think.
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And so it's, he probably, he might not be able to really notice when, how other people
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So the thing is like, I think, I feel like most guests, 99% of guests, they're, they're,
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You know, they won't take the opportunity if they see you like are uncomfortable or you
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goofed up or maybe you said, like when he sees an opening, he will, he like attacks.
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But like, he, he is unlike anyone else I've ever interviewed because the second time when
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I interviewed him, I really just like talked as little as I possibly could.
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And that, and that was the best, but you, you obviously have to handle each interview differently,
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but he was unlike anyone I had ever interviewed because.
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He was one like, one, like why finish that sentence?
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Because he is, because he's not willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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And he will, he will expose any chinks in your armor.
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And he's going to make a funny moment out of it.
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But for me, I'm like, oh shit, dude, my fragile ego.
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And yeah, for me, I think I'm used to, I think I'm, I'm good to rip on people if that's
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I think it's like, I brought roller skates to a fucking sword fight.
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So I think, um, because in previous conversations I had with him, it had been more of a communication
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about kind of real stuff that was going on in my career.
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Questions I had, you know, and I was kind of looking up to him, I think also in some way
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Um, and when you get a, when you get a certain response from someone you have expectations
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on in your own mind, they, for me, when I get a response to them that they don't, they
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don't realize that I see them that way or it doesn't matter to them or whatever.
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I built up in my head for some reason that hits harder a little bit, you know, where
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But for me also, it's just like, I'm not even a fucking interviewer dog.
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We're doing our best, but I was just happy to sit down with him.
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It was fucking, I think maybe we sat down maybe on the wrong day.
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Maybe we started, you know, I don't know, but stuff we were talking about off the podcast
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when I brought it up on the podcast, it was like, we'd never spoken off the podcast.
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I had the same reaction to him, but like you made this joke about, do you have a, do you
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But he, he just, I don't know why he took that so the wrong way.
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That's just a funny, I mean, that's just a funny premise.
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I think at that point I, uh, I had also at some point I kind of checked out, I think.
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You know, I think I was kind of, uh, you said to me that you don't want to do guests anymore.
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Oh no, I was, I needed to cancel episodes way before that.
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We were just trying to like, just too much stress.
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This year I just hit a level of just too much stress for me, you know, just doing like
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you get in, you know, like I started podcasting.
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It was just me talking to myself, which is what's always going on in my head anyway.
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And then, um, and then you get like, oh, and then you have a guest on, you try that and
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And then you're like, okay, well, do I interview, you know, you see what other people do.
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You see what other podcasters are doing, interviewing all types of people.
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And so then I started doing that and like, just kind of finding my way, what fits and what
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And Brendan and I started that King in the Sting podcast and that's just goofing around,
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but it also took a lot of, it took a lot of, it took time, it took effort.
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And then with the tour dates, it literally too much.
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There was about two months, man, where I don't even know.
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And like my, my, my thought, my, my peace, I was always a couple seconds off of peace
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And just to feel okay or know what was going on.
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It was like I was speeding, um, but I didn't even know how to work the vehicle or something.
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So that to me, it was just like, I need to tailback.
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Do I want to be a comedian or are we doing podcasting?
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So this is kind of nice, you know, and now it's like, okay, I get to look forward to a
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conversation as opposed to being like, okay, you know, getting right here and be like,
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I was, I was in the same place where I was taking, just trying to get more interviews, but you end
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up sitting across people that you frankly don't care about or not interested in, or you don't
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That guy I thought was just kind of, I don't know.
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It was just, and I, and then I felt I couldn't interview him the way I wanted to.
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It was just like, I just didn't have enough of a plan of why I was even talking to this
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So the last time I saw you, I'm trying to think if that was right before you kind of
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That was one of my finest interviews, man, was going in there.
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Well, sometimes I like being a guest better, man.
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It's, I find it one of the hardest things as the host to be is like to actually listen
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to what they're saying, but also being prepared, uh, where the conversation goes next so that
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And, uh, it's because I really want to listen, but sometimes I'll, I'll be listening and
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And then you don't know where you're going next.
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But being a guest is great because it's all like, if this show sucks, it's your fault,
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I think some of the hosting maybe are just being like the person, the inviter, you know,
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it's almost like being a woman during a sex pop.
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Here, we got a question right here from a guy who might be Jack London's son.
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This is, uh, Chester Pink coming in from Detroit, Michigan.
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Uh, I just wanted to call and ask Ethan, um, when you got into YouTubing, what was like
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Like, did you have all of this crazy success, you know, in your head?
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Um, or were you just making funny videos and, and, you know, it just happened organically?
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Cause I think a lot of people get into what you do now, you know, they see you and they
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So, they get into it maybe for different reasons than they should or, or than you did when
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So, I'm just curious, uh, stoked to hear the podcast.
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But he looks like one of those guys who's able to also, like, if you bundle up too much,
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That's the thing about being a guy in the cold.
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If you bundle too much, you're never gonna meet any woman.
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Like, oh, I'm gonna fuck this cotton ball going down the street.
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Whereas a guy will almost unwrap anything to see if they can fuck it, you know?
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Do you think that guys should be able to, like, you know how, I mean, women can walk
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Do you think that guys should be able to show their dick off?
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Like, tight pants and maybe, maybe like a, maybe like a little, a window to the balls
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Like a little plastic window that you can see some nuts.
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Um, I feel like, uh, chicks want to see our dicks on the street.
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Well, I think if somebody, if you could show the nuts in a way where you could see the cleavage
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Oh, now that's talking, but I don't, I, the problem is your dick is in front of your
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You, you, well, you, you wrap it up, you tape it up or some shit.
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Yeah, but now that's going to take an extra six or seven minutes.
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Like these girls spend a lot of time getting ready in the morning.
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Let's tape our dicks up and get some fucking nut cleavage out there.
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I think my dick used to be stylish, but as I got older and fatter, my dick is get, is
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turning into like a fucking California raisin, dude.
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Now, what happens to your dick as you get put on more weight?
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I think just because, you know, you're fat, you're out of shape, you got to get that good
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Hila laughs at me when I say that, so she has some confidence in my penis, at least,
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Can she, uh, does she, um, yeah, I mean, she must enjoy your dick.
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They have to enjoy, that's the thing about, meeting a man is really a two-part thing.
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They have to meet you and like you, and then they also, you have this second buddy that
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they have to meet that they kind of have to like enough, you know?
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It's like, oh, you also got to like my friend little Roger, you know?
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Hopefully you're one of the ones that like him.
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Yeah, she likes, she's, yeah, that's a, that's a really good point, you know?
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I mean, you put it in and at a certain point, like, you don't even have to really, like,
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But, but, but, but to answer your question, you know, um.
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My dick worked really good when I was about 17.
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Because I had a real large penis since I was very young.
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I think it's looked different maybe in different cities.
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You said since you were, since you were, what age you had a big penis?
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As you aged, you got bigger, your penis stays the same size.
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Dude, I remember there were times where I could wrap both of my arms around, almost
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Like I wrap it around my penis and pull it close into my body.
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Like I remember, yeah, just like almost like high, like at one point almost being able
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to not hide behind it, but I remember definitely being like.
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So is it, so are you happy with the size of it and the, and the, the, you know what
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My penis is a little bit more of like kind of a wider penis.
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It's more of like somebody trying to park a church.
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It's more like a church van type of a deal, you know?
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I think chode is like a fat guy kind of bothering you, you know?
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I, I don't think there, I mean, the way you're describing your penis, I think is, uh, sounds
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like something to be, something to be proud of.
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I think I, yeah, maybe I have a negative idea of it.
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Like I, when I was younger, I was very proud of it.
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I was like, I'm ready to put this thing to work.
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You remember showing it to women when you were showing it to girls?
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Oh, well, I didn't, I didn't get the opportunity, you know what I'm saying?
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But, uh, you know, my pubes get longer, like my dick, all of a sudden when, like, I'm not
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hard, my dick is like, in a, it's like lost in the, it's like an earthworm in a jungle
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And I'm getting fat, I can't even see my penis these days, boy.
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Wow, does it really get wild when you get, starts putting on some weight?
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You can't, I, I, and you know, I think, is it like you're looking for something?
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I had trouble getting it up too, at certain points.
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Dude, if there was a thunderstorm in the area, I couldn't get an erection.
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I couldn't get an erection near a broken glass.
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It went away when I was in, like, monogamous relationships.
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That's when I was able to perform at full mass, you know?
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But, uh, there was times when I just, I wanted to, uh, it was such a shame, you know?
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It would have been the perfect time for that thing to work, you know what I mean?
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Dude, I remember there was a girl I met at Tulane University years ago.
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I think I'd known her, but finally we met out and we went back to her place or my place or
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I probably didn't even have a place, but we went somewhere to do sex.
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And I remember I just couldn't get an erection, you know?
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Everything else in the, every, everything was up.
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And I would wear tight socks even to keep blood flow into the more pertinent.
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It was a sport thing, but I don't know if it really did, but I would wear like those
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compression socks, you know, like senior citizens wear, like nurses.
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Fucking, you were just going to the club, you know?
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You were just fucking rolling into some comm socks.
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Was that your idea or was that shared with you?
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I thought you were going to go into some more of my poor choices.
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I was going to, but I'm trying to change my way I think.
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Bro, and here was the excuse I remember that I used, dude.
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I'm supposed to meet somebody to swim at 5.30, I remember.
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Because it's so, dude, the erection, mind connection is too strong.
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Because you remember that and you're like, all right, I'm over that.
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I mean, it's so hard for me to leave my head to live in a comfortable place in the world.
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That's why I'm constantly seeing all my faults, constantly seeing all my problems, constantly seeing all my – and people are like, you got to quit being so hard on yourself.
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The bigger thing for me is I just have to get out of my head because my head is just faulty.
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But you have this lens that you see the whole world through.
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And when you – different people have been through different shit and it all gunks up your lens and you don't see the world as it is but as you are, right?
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So when your lens is all gunked up and you've been through all this shit and, you know, it's hard to see – to not see things all messy like that.
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You know, I'm in a recovery program so I go to 12-step and that kind of stuff definitely helps.
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You know, I think honestly when I really think back on it, I was addicted to the way that I think.
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But, I mean, my favorite drink was cocaine really.
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But I would fucking – I'll take a glass on it.
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It's probably one of the best powders, I think.
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It made you real – what did it make you just chew?
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And I would sit with people and they'd be like – people get so intense and like chatty.
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But I was very aware of the – that that wasn't like a real moment between people.
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It was just like you get all fucking crazy off the cocaine.
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People, I fucking call them word burglars because they just keep talking.
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Who gives a fuck to even talk about it for 40 minutes?
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That's what I think of when I think of cocaine.
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But I think I'm lucky in that my body – it rebels against drug use.
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I always have the worst experiences with all drugs.
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Actually, the experience is very much like you described it.
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I think I liked that it gave me an excuse to feel that way without – like it wasn't my fault anymore in a way because I would feel like edgy.
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I would feel like just kind of overwhelmed or something.
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And it's like, oh, well, now it's – at least it's this substance's fault, not yours or something.
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But in the end, I just realized it was from my thinking.
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You know, my thinking, I need to have a program to help me relieve the way that I think and the way I feel about myself.
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Because those are really the drugs that I'm addicted to.
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I'm addicted to, I think, feeling poorly about myself.
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And I'm addicted to like this – just a negative system that started in my head, I think, when I was young that –
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You know, just a bad software kind of, you know.
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And I think what you're saying is, right, because your brain releases chemicals that makes you feel certain ways.
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And when you're used to releasing this chemical that makes you anxious or stressed or whatever bad feelings you have where your mind is racing and you're thinking all these negative thoughts,
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this is the kind of chemical your body gets used to producing.
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When you're just sitting calmly in your house, your body's not producing that shit.
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And so it's hard to kind of rewire your system.
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I used to do some pause stories before I go to the bar.
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I'd put two fucking Zoloft in my ass, dude, when I used to live in Charleston.
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This is about the time when I think that kind of shit was popular, you know?
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I could drink 13 gin and tonics if I had two of those in my ass, man.
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I don't think you're supposed to drink on antidepressants.
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I think what they say, actually, is that it makes it worse.
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I mean, for me, it always felt like it was a little bit bad.
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But I do remember I could, the first time I got Zoloft, man, it made me feel like, oh,
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The only thing that changed is that I became less irritable, which was really, like, destroying
00:29:30.580
It's just I was so fucking irritable all the time.
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Now, irritable, did that display itself as, like, anger?
00:29:39.540
I would get, like, irrationally angry at my wife.
00:29:42.540
And I know in my mind, it was the worst part, is, like, dude, why is this making you so
00:29:49.620
There's no reason for you to be this upset over this.
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You're a prisoner to your emotions in that regard.
00:29:59.460
You said I went to the gym this morning, right?
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And I hired a trainer recently to help me just get me a little more motivated.
00:30:06.020
And when I got there, I was just not in a good mood, man.
00:30:11.080
But, and I told him, I said, hey, man, I'm just in a really bad mood.
00:30:24.140
And I'm going to do my best in this shirt, but there's no, I can't fucking change this.
00:30:29.060
It's like you're in something and you know you're in it.
00:30:32.680
It's, it's really, you're a prisoner to your emotions.
00:30:37.480
I feel like, I feel like such pussies that we're talking about this, but it's real.
00:30:45.560
It defines your whole, how you experience everything.
00:30:48.180
And it's so frustrating knowing that inside of you is this, how you want to be, how you
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And you know that, that you've been there and you, you want to feel that normality.
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And, but you just, you're, you're, you're in prison.
00:31:10.940
It's not like a, you know, I still have bad days, but, um, for the most part, I feel
00:31:19.980
I, I talked and kind of thought about things that I had never thought about before.
00:31:34.300
Dude, they sent me to a guy who did puppetry work, dude.
00:31:41.380
If you talk to Peanut as puppet for therapy and then jalapeno comes out, you're like, what
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I was like, man, I didn't even like, he's good, but he doesn't like give me a reach around
00:32:06.060
He shouldn't be making an entire dinner for you while he has therapy.
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We got a question right here from a beautiful young Filipino, Jim.
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Because this one's kind of related what you guys are-
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I remember the question was, what did you plan when you started YouTube?
00:36:46.660
I never thought that I could ever be on screen because it's like when you don't have connections
00:36:51.720
and I didn't ever really want to be a stand-up comedian.
00:36:55.260
I knew that wasn't my path just because, I don't know.
00:37:02.060
You knew that about yourself because you did like vape.
00:37:04.320
You know, I was watching Vape Nation the other day.
00:37:11.460
Yeah, I mean, those videos were really hard to make.
00:37:13.980
It's intense going on the street and doing that.
00:37:17.500
But in the very beginning, I thought I'd be a writer or something because-
00:37:21.620
But at any rate, I remember I was watching Jimmy Kimmel of all people and he says,
00:37:26.360
you know, these days with YouTube, if you're funny and you work hard enough and you're talented,
00:37:34.380
you know, back in the day, you had to know somebody.
00:37:36.740
But these days, if you're funny and you just put yourself out there on YouTube,
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eventually something's going to happen for you.
00:37:47.540
Like, I'm sitting around trying to find, like, someone to give me an opportunity or something,
00:37:59.120
So I started on the weekends just making goofy YouTube videos, just not with any expectation
00:38:08.180
at all, just to get my chops, to find my voice, to figure out what I liked and who I was comedically.
00:38:17.780
You know, we collected a small following of people, which I was so, I mean, I was so blessed.
00:38:23.600
There was this, like, in the beginning days, there was, like, I had a very loyal, small group of people that found me somehow.
00:38:36.200
What's the one where Will Smith finds his dog or whatever?
00:38:44.000
Because there's only one person, you were the only person there.
00:38:46.340
There's, like, people wandering around just trying to find their group, you know?
00:38:52.140
But I, but I, well, I was trying to think of zombies.
00:38:58.100
Put them up, do you still put them up your butt?
00:39:07.320
But don't you get left with a bunch of, like, powder in your ass, or does it just soak it all up?
00:39:11.240
No, dude, this is back when I had a pretty fucking designer asshole.
00:39:26.780
No, it's just, you know, it's more of a, you know, it's just had, it probably feels like,
00:39:33.580
it seems like it's just had, I don't know, mileage is the term.
00:39:37.920
It's just, you know, the city, I don't know if the city's always taking great care of it.
00:39:44.480
You ever take a shit, like, a big-ass shit, it feels so good, coming out, it's a very pleasant
00:39:50.740
experience, and you look, and it's like a big-ass shit, like, and you're like, damn,
00:39:54.300
I kind of get why dudes, like, ain't fucked in the ass.
00:39:58.380
Because it's like, damn, like, if it can feel that, like, a shit that big just came out
00:40:03.300
of my ass, and I didn't even mind it one bit, you know what I mean?
00:40:07.780
I won't take really big shits, I'll wait until they feel a little bit smaller, and then I
00:40:16.020
Well, you can wait, I mean, it's in your body, you can feel how much shit I mean.
00:40:20.020
Or it's like, now, it's not never, it's, when I need a shit, I need a shit, there's no
00:40:24.660
Damn, you're like the fucking, this is like the Fast and the Furious.
00:40:31.720
Oh, dude, yeah, my Jewish buddies, you give them half a teaspoon of fucking sour cream
00:40:42.780
No, I just made that up, but it should be a thing.
00:40:45.020
Bro, it's so crazy, my Jewish buddies, smartest, most capable humans, dude.
00:40:49.520
You give them half of a fucking cracker that doesn't agree with them, bro.
00:40:52.580
You know, you didn't even need the Holocaust, you could have just distributed sour cream to
00:41:02.920
Yeah, we're just inbred as fuck, so I guess that does something.
00:41:06.320
But we all have mental disorders, I have like Tourette's syndrome, you know, I'm a fucking
00:41:11.120
We had a question that came in about that, let's get right to that.
00:41:13.380
We didn't have a question about the Tourettes, but we-
00:41:22.240
Oh yeah, we had a guest that came in named Nick-
00:41:27.340
He would give TED Talks because he cured his Tourettes through the-
00:41:32.000
And he was in System of a Down, what was he in?
00:41:45.760
Well, I'm not surprised because that's definitely not possible.
00:41:49.440
There's a lot of different things that are like Tourette's, but Tourette's is a neurological-
00:42:10.720
I can't diagnose him if that's what you're asking me to do.
00:42:21.720
There's a new neurological disease I just heard about on the news that kind of manifested
00:42:38.060
It's passed down from my family members down the street.
00:42:40.260
When you see your uncle, do you guys have a different type of, is there like a sixth
00:42:48.600
Well, his is worse than mine, so it's really easy to spot.
00:42:52.800
But when you see him, is there like, here's what I'm saying.
00:42:58.500
And I saw somebody else with wings on their back, I would be like, oh.
00:43:10.860
It was a very personal experience that I never met anyone else that had Tourette's growing
00:43:22.820
And it's a very personal experience in battle, the way I felt it.
00:43:27.800
I preferred not to talk about it, because I feel like even being aware of it made it
00:43:32.580
So like when my parents tried to talk to me about it, I would just tell them, you know,
00:43:37.360
I would say, just don't bring it up to me, because I don't want to- I felt like the less
00:43:46.000
And these days, it doesn't bother me so much, but as a kid, it's a lot to work out in your
00:43:55.400
I was very fortunate to have friends who were very cool and understanding and not judgmental
00:44:00.520
about it, because I can see that that could really-
00:44:06.700
But I mean, I was so fortunate to have friends that were very generous with their compassion.
00:44:12.740
Yeah, that's huge, because imagine that you have- yeah, you have that, and people are
00:44:19.060
just giving you a hard time, and you have no outlet.
00:44:24.980
What kind of- because sometimes you get- we had a guy that was always like kind of playing
00:44:37.760
We had a guy- we had a dude who was- he would always ride this bicycle that had a baby seat.
00:44:49.920
Now these kids ride in like a fucking big covered wagon or something, like they're in
00:44:55.080
But we used to ride- it was just a seat with like a shitty fucking seatbelt.
00:44:59.360
And you would just sit in there and fucking bounce behind mom.
00:45:02.040
We had a dude in our town that was like- he had some type of something.
00:45:06.660
And he would just drive one of those all the time, but no baby in the back.
00:45:12.800
And people always thought that something had happened, he'd lost his family or something.
00:45:19.300
I just had- so when I was a kid, it was- it's a weird thing.
00:45:22.420
I feel like with Tourette's you can pass around your tics.
00:45:25.220
So like, for example, I had one where I opened my eyes real wide.
00:45:28.040
And that- you just- you don't want to draw attention to yourself, right?
00:45:33.100
Okay, so it's almost like having something but trying to hide it inside of yourself?
00:45:35.940
Yeah, like I have one where I roll my eyes so I would like cover my eyes so people didn't
00:45:45.820
So what I found you can do is if you resist the urge, your body will manifest new tics in
00:45:54.060
So I would like fight off this urge to shake my head because it drew attention to myself.
00:46:04.360
So you can redirect- I found personally that I can redirect the tic energy.
00:46:13.580
The best way I can describe it is like you- it's not like I don't have control over it.
00:46:27.140
It's a horrible feeling not scratching an itch.
00:46:34.580
It was like having an itch and you have to scratch it and you have to do something to
00:46:42.260
I don't know what he's got as far as I'm aware that, you know, Tourette's is not-
00:46:48.040
Yeah, he thanked the Nixxiom cult, whatever their- their organization, their process was
00:47:13.020
That's the difference between like tic syndrome and-
00:47:16.360
And, and like- and Tourette's syndrome- Tourette's is characterized by vocal tics, so-
00:47:23.060
Was there any fun ones you would get sometimes?
00:47:35.460
It doesn't necessarily bother me that I have to wiggle my toes, but I have like, you know,
00:47:39.240
I have like a sleep paralysis where you wake up or you, you're in a semi-conscious state.
00:47:57.160
Every time I go to sleep, I pray for that, dude.
00:48:00.940
Sometimes it's the most exciting thing I'll do all month.
00:48:05.480
Yeah, like sometimes, yeah, like you wake up and, but you're not really awake and you
00:48:10.920
That's not- I mean, that sounds awful the way you described it.
00:48:20.860
It's like, oh, I'm just going to lay here for seven hours, you know?
00:48:26.860
Yeah, look, I've thought it ruled for some time and then recently-
00:48:34.060
Yeah, I just feel like in the future, they're going to be like, can you believe that when
00:48:38.020
our great-grandparents were tired, they fucking went and laid somewhere for eight hours?
00:48:46.240
Think of how psychotic it seems, really, to think that, man, oh, you think things weren't
00:48:50.880
going well, she went and laid down in a specific spot-
00:49:19.000
She kind of lowered her voice and changed her mannerisms.
00:49:29.660
The thing is that Hila wasn't- I probably would have, but Hila wasn't- she was having
00:49:36.580
He was actually, like, starving to death during the first two weeks, and it was awful.
00:49:46.780
And so, I would have totally sucked milk out of her titties.
00:50:01.220
Everybody's had a sip of different things that come out of their body.
00:50:03.900
You know, everybody's, you know, I'm no fucking-
00:50:07.520
You know, even Emerald Legasse does like that on the pot.
00:50:17.520
I know last time you and I were talking on your podcast, man, which was really fun, dude.
00:50:20.940
I'm so- I appreciate it that you guys had me on.
00:50:23.000
I've gotten such a nice response over the years from-
00:50:35.980
I would say probably after the first day of the year, I'll come back.
00:50:43.840
But yeah, we were talking about parenting and fatherhood and stuff like that.
00:50:47.040
Has your relationship with your dad changed since you have had a child?
00:50:58.100
You can inform yourself and hopefully improve your relationship with your own son.
00:51:06.320
But I just don't think that things change like that, unfortunately.
00:51:21.080
I mean, I have a fine relationship with my dad.
00:51:23.360
Yeah, I'm not throwing him under the bus or anything.
00:51:32.400
But it's like you got to just buckle up if you're going to listen because I'm just going
00:51:40.300
You're going to hear things you don't want to hear from, you know, how I wipe my ass.
00:51:45.920
You know, I recently started using a bidet and I had a lot of success with that.
00:51:49.740
To sucking on, you know, trying to suck milk out of my wife's titties and even to saying,
00:51:54.500
you know, hey, I don't think you did that good job as a father.
00:52:00.860
I don't think it's improved my relationship with my dad at all.
00:52:04.040
I think mostly it's just, I learned a lot about my relationship with my dad through therapy.
00:52:09.920
And that kind of stuff was very good, I think, with preparing me to be a father.
00:52:26.640
And there's a lot of people prepare you for, I think people oversell it in this way.
00:52:35.300
They say, first of all, people go, when my child was born is the best day of my life.
00:52:47.800
Like, your wife is going under this incredible, dangerous procedure.
00:52:55.580
Then you have this crying little goblin that you have no, like in my, I mean, I'm a first
00:53:00.580
time father, so you don't know what you're doing.
00:53:04.160
This baby is, it can't even lift its fucking neck up, bro.
00:53:08.740
We had a guy like that on our basketball team when I was young.
00:53:10.700
Like, you don't hold his neck up and he breaks his fucking head, his head falls on the floor.
00:53:18.820
They're going to lift him up to do a layup in the middle of the game.
00:53:21.220
Yeah, that doesn't sound like a very, that sounds like a dysfunctional basketball team.
00:53:29.940
It's so, you know, and it is beautiful when the baby comes out.
00:53:33.080
But at the same time, there's a ton of people there.
00:53:35.900
It's kind of confusing because you don't know what to do.
00:53:41.740
She's getting sewn up because her asshole tore into her vagina.
00:53:47.800
And he was a big baby and his shoulders just tore her fucking vaginal.
00:53:59.240
You think that like, oh, dad's just going to sit outside.
00:54:18.480
His head looked like a meatball coming out of her.
00:54:20.640
Because it was all discolored and lumpy and little hairs.
00:54:26.420
Bro, the no joke, this story right here is better than the entire last movie of Halloween
00:54:37.400
It was almost like an advertisement for Cutco Knives, dude.
00:54:40.120
It was the fucking worst horror movie I'd ever seen.
00:54:47.440
It's kind of like a man window shopping for houses.
00:55:13.720
Oh, there's one of these fucking bitches from Montana Boulevard over something.
00:55:17.560
You know, trying to put it in a smoothie for you.
00:55:25.460
I'm taking down names of people who told me to eat it so I could not talk to them anymore.
00:55:34.640
And then you pull the fucking placenta out by the umbilical cord.
00:55:40.480
The baby's out getting checked out by the doctors.
00:55:42.920
And then meanwhile, the nurse is pulling this placenta out.
00:55:51.620
And there's all these veins and shit in it, dude.
00:56:21.080
And then the nurses are going on and on about like, oh, it's such a beautiful placenta.
00:56:37.000
And then there's this newborn baby I've never dealt with.
00:56:40.460
And the doctors are all checking him out and shit.
00:56:46.300
And then they put you in the recovery room and you got to keep this baby alive for two
00:56:52.040
And then they send your ass home and you got to keep the baby alive there.
00:57:05.380
When we got home, the first two months was just agony.
00:57:09.980
Because, well, I think we had a specifically hard time because he wasn't latching on.
00:57:19.060
And, you know, breastfeeding is very painful for the female, too.
00:57:22.940
They say that breastfeeding is oftentimes even worse than the pregnancy.
00:57:40.600
I mean, he was just crying, crying, crying, crying.
00:57:42.480
We're like, I don't think he's supposed to cry this much.
00:58:14.660
I saw you guys had a sign, please don't use the elevator.
00:58:20.540
I think it's not at the moment because there's so much therapy upstairs.
00:58:29.500
Yeah, one day we had to carry a lady in a wheelchair up the stairs.
00:58:34.260
Oh, you should have probably just let her take the elevator.
00:58:41.720
Now, does it seem human at first or does it seem like an animal or like a pet at first?
00:58:46.140
And not in any way that you don't love the child.
00:58:53.920
Do you love it as much in the beginning as much as you're able to love it now, five or six months?
00:58:58.380
And that's another thing they don't tell you is that when this baby, it's a stranger.
00:59:12.320
And it's not, you don't have an immediate connection.
00:59:19.080
That I was like, you know, I'm not really connecting with this baby at first.
00:59:24.720
Now he's five months old and he's smiling and he's laughing and it's the whole thing.
00:59:30.020
But at first, especially for the first two months, there's no, there's almost no recognition of you at all.
00:59:36.380
So, that's another thing that I think you don't expect that maybe people aren't honest about.
00:59:43.320
Because everybody, I think in retrospect, like when they're 20 years old or whatever, it's even five, six years old.
00:59:48.960
It's like, you just think you're all, you see all the happy, good times.
00:59:52.780
And you look back on that with, with the, not just rose colored glasses, but, but the dark pink.
01:00:16.200
Were you, was there a moment where you kind of started to feel grateful?
01:00:19.060
Like, okay, wow, I am starting to love like, yeah, there was a moment where I realized now he's, he's, he's like five months in a week.
01:00:28.420
And he's really been coming into his own for the past month or two.
01:00:34.020
And there's, there's like this moment every day when he first sees you and he's so happy to see you.
01:00:40.140
And do you know what I real, I had this weird realization that you think that, you know, your parents are meant to have unconditional love for you.
01:00:47.720
But, but what I realized as a parent is that this child has unconditional love for me right now.
01:00:55.280
And it was like a, it was very sobering realization that he, it's almost like I feel unworthy of that love.
01:01:05.580
He's just so happy to see me every time and happy to spend time with me that it's, it's, it's freaky.
01:01:14.300
Like, it's what, it's what he does for me and not the other way around.
01:01:18.860
And you have, I feel like I have, and it's not just with me either.
01:01:23.620
Like he's born so pure and loving that as a parent, you need to, you need to protect that.
01:01:31.600
You need to, because the truth is, I think we're all born that way.
01:01:35.680
And only through our life experiences do we, does that change?
01:01:41.420
You know, there's a debate that are we born good or not?
01:01:45.280
And I think once you see a baby, there, I mean, it's obviously that we are all born good.
01:01:50.940
And it's just through our life experiences that.
01:01:55.940
So, you know, you have a responsibility and it's, it's so weird when you realize like.
01:02:03.780
That you're going to be the one to affect that.
01:02:05.660
Well, it's such a profound relationship, the father-son relationship, right?
01:02:21.580
My question is when you're battling darkness and depression and dark thoughts yourself, how do you go about having a better, brighter perspective for your child?
01:02:36.840
When you're dealing with negativity yourself, how do you aim for positivity with your child?
01:02:43.420
In the nick of time, that's what we call him right now.
01:02:48.000
Well, I feel like, first of all, it's more like, how do you deal with it yourself?
01:02:54.520
You know, it's like you have to get your shit straight for yourself.
01:02:59.740
If you're feeling that way, you can't help it bleeding through to your kid, and he's going to see that, and he's going to learn from that.
01:03:05.940
So do you start to realize, yeah, you're like this weird filter?
01:03:17.120
Their little DNA, their building blocks are taking everything in, bro.
01:03:23.200
And for me, you know, one of the fallacies that I had when I was depressed and anxious and really in the pit of despair, you have this feeling in your head.
01:03:31.500
You chase yourself in circles and circles and circles.
01:03:33.800
The truth is you can't talk yourself out of it.
01:03:38.780
Day by day, you just, you try to convince yourself.
01:03:41.840
You try to find different ways that you can feel better.
01:03:43.780
But for me, I found that it's all just, that's all part of it, dude.
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And for me, it's just, you know, therapy and medicine was what helped me get out of it because you can't, you just can't talk yourself out of it.
01:04:01.560
Are there moments now, I remember having a moment where I felt like for one of the first times I felt good about myself.
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Did you have anything like that happen after you got on antidepressants?
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And I'm not saying that antidepressants are the cure for these things.
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I'm just saying that that moment for me happened when I got in a 12-step program.
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That I remember having a day, one day, one moment I was walking and I was like, what is going on?
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I have had, I certainly have moments of clarity like that.
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Yeah, that's the thing is like before, I used to have good days and then just the, the, the awareness that I had a good, having a good moment or a good day made me, ruined my day.
01:05:00.340
But I think that that's, but I do have moments of clarity where I'm like, I think back to how bad I was.
01:05:08.020
And, uh, you know, I'm very thankful for that the, you know, it's a little better.
01:05:18.320
I want to talk, what do you talk, what are you working on in therapy right now?
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I went for like three months or four months and I feel like I got, I, I made a lot of
01:05:31.760
I thought about a lot of stuff and I think there was just a month.
01:05:34.580
Well, first of all, it was super expensive and it was super far from my house.
01:05:38.800
And I think it came to the point where I felt like it was more of a pain in the ass than
01:05:45.280
I had a moment the other day with my therapist yesterday, actually I was in there and I didn't
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like the fact that she kept, sometimes she'll just tell me facts and shit.
01:05:57.240
I learn more from feeling like for me, I really need to feel something to, especially
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I need to have some feelings for it to really be of any value to me.
01:06:07.160
I don't care whenever they're talking about like, well, maybe the reason of this is that
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I need to communicate it to myself almost with your help.
01:06:19.620
And I remember telling her, I said, you know, I don't like when you talk.
01:06:23.660
And it was kind of interesting because we started to get into this space where it's
01:06:33.500
And this whole time I've had this thing in my head where I'm just like, I'm just trying
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to be nice at the same time as also getting therapy.
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But sometimes you can use your therapist to embody things that you don't like.
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Like if they're doing something, you know, I didn't realize that.
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I didn't realize I can say, you know, I don't like hearing you talk right now.
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But, you know, yeah, I had a moment like that, too.
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And then I get to start to realize something that's bothering me.
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And I'm actually then dealing with it instead of just like talking to my therapist.
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That's why at therapy you need to be like radically honest.
01:07:12.300
And radically honest in a way that I didn't even know was being radically honest.
01:07:17.380
I fucking hate it when you start to tell me like, well, maybe this is, you know, and I
01:07:29.420
But it was finally like an opportunity when I started to get there.
01:07:32.320
I was like, oh, this is a new space for me to communicate.
01:07:36.820
Because one of my biggest problems really is communication.
01:07:38.780
I don't communicate clearly sometimes in the beginning.
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And then I start to live in these worlds where I did communicate clearly, but I never
01:07:53.900
So then I start to build these weird resentments and things going on in my head when I just
01:08:01.760
But it's so hard for me to want to communicate clearly.
01:08:04.660
Then then I start to realize, OK, that's where I have like an issue.
01:08:08.100
You don't have the will to like extra communicate.
01:08:15.200
I think I just no one ever really taught it to me, so I think I could learn weird ways
01:08:18.980
to communicate, even when I probably why I ended up doing stand up.
01:08:22.300
I ended up needing to have this way to communicate with people to just feel like somebody hears
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I think in a lot of it, I'm still learning about, but it just anyway, I just went on
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that tangent because I, I just realized that for myself in therapy that I can also communicate
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Because it's going to help us as a team learn about what's going on.
01:08:50.440
And I can even tell them, hey, don't take this personally.
01:08:52.620
I know that I'm, I know, you know that I care about you.
01:08:55.940
I know that I think you're a nice person, but I'm going to communicate this way to be
01:09:01.380
I can't imagine a therapist getting all like defensive.
01:09:04.420
Yeah, I couldn't either, but I always thought that they would.
01:09:07.860
And you, then you have a weird thing where like, you like them and they, they, they know
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you more than, they know what's going on through your head more than your closest, the people
01:09:28.300
We, there needs to be a book on how to go to therapy.
01:09:32.420
It's, it's, cause there's, there's so much teaching for the therapist.
01:09:35.940
There's no teaching for the therapy, for the, you know, for the therapy or whatever the
01:09:43.400
This guy was, uh, when he, the quarterback from, um, that TV show, sugar hill gang or
01:09:50.920
Where's the guy with the guy wheelchair market eight, the guy who got in the wheelchair and
01:09:56.560
That's him with the, with the black guy that played Superman.
01:10:21.020
Um, my wife and I are massive fans of H3 and the podcast and everything and the whole
01:10:27.520
My question is as a husband and now a new father, what does it feel like responsibility
01:10:32.680
wise to put your family out there for the internet?
01:10:38.020
Well, in certain ways it sucks because we're get swatted and there's a lot of people that
01:10:46.200
And, uh, we moved recently because we didn't feel safe at our last house where people were
01:10:51.520
calling the police and saying like serious people calling police and saying there's bodies
01:10:56.960
Uh, there's hostages and the SWAT teams would pull up to our house and helicopters and they
01:11:11.100
And so we moved to a new house and a gated community, which is nice.
01:11:14.560
I feel better there, but, um, it sucks being a public figure in that regard because there's
01:11:21.960
always a little bit of uncertainty because there's just so many crazy fucking people out
01:11:26.800
And there's, I don't know, there's people that dislike me on the internet for one reason
01:11:31.900
And, um, I wish I could erase that, you know, I didn't know if I would like you probably
01:11:39.740
I, but I realized I really did like you, you know, I wonder what that is though.
01:11:43.160
I wonder, I mean, and I don't mean that any bad way.
01:11:44.720
I mean it in almost in a way to explore, you know, like, um, I guess I just thought we might
01:11:49.940
be so different, you know, but then I realized that's true.
01:11:54.960
And I was kind of like, oh, we're, we're really not very, very different.
01:11:58.360
I don't know why, but I, I had a feeling like, uh, I was, I was friends with a lot of your,
01:12:06.940
And I knew I wanted to meet you, but I don't know why.
01:12:09.100
Like when I saw you at the comedy club, I really wanted to, uh, to meet you and I'm glad,
01:12:18.840
I don't know what it was, but your set was amazing.
01:12:30.040
But what, what is it that you think you wouldn't like about me?
01:12:36.380
Sometimes I feel like certain people just judge, would just judge me for some reason, you know?
01:12:48.200
Well, I think it's also probably because I know, because I'm judgmental.
01:12:51.280
And so then I always, from one dick to another.
01:12:55.440
So then my biggest fear is always that other people are going to be, you know, it's funny.
01:13:00.060
If I met myself, I think I would have liked myself.
01:13:03.500
Maybe, maybe that's less true now, but back in the, back when I was like really, uh, in
01:13:08.500
a dark place, I used to be sure that if I was outside myself and met myself, I'd fucking
01:13:17.100
Sometimes I felt like that earlier this year, I had a real bad, I had a bad spot this year
01:13:21.520
Um, and it's still a bit, this whole year has been really tough for me, but I hit a
01:13:26.880
bad spot early this year where I was fucking just a nightmare and I hated it.
01:13:31.020
Like, you know, sometimes it just flares up and it's just like, I don't know.
01:13:34.780
I have some anger and it just won't, I just can't get, I almost want to fucking exorcism
01:13:48.780
Dude, think about back in the old days, if you'd be an asshole, you're like, oh, sorry,
01:13:57.700
Man, they just take a little blood, call it a day.
01:14:01.000
Oh, let's get a question right here and this guy right here, definitely.
01:14:09.520
I actually met you in Sydney, Theo, at the Enmore show that you did.
01:14:14.860
This question is aimed more at Ethan, whoever, who might recognize me from this tattoo, which
01:14:25.800
I know the Fake Nation video is probably a crowd favorite, but I was just wondering,
01:14:28.940
what is your own favorite video that you've made on the old H3H3 channel?
01:14:42.180
I've seen that tattoo so many times, it's Rick and Morty, Rick Sanchez doing Vape Nation.
01:14:47.500
I just met with, no, I didn't meet with that studio today.
01:14:57.000
My favorite vid, well, Vape Nation is such, I think Vape Nation is definitely one of my
01:15:01.600
That thing was like such a, it was such a, it was like the vape gods blessed me because
01:15:07.560
me and Eli just walked out with no plan at all.
01:15:13.780
And the gods were gracious because like I had all these incredible interactions.
01:15:18.580
Like we went to the vape store and the guys were amazing.
01:15:21.360
We went, we were walking down the street and the news was live, which is something that
01:15:26.780
Yes, that was a great, that's a great scene I remember.
01:15:27.740
The news was fucking live and we were vaping and the guy reacted to me.
01:15:36.620
We were in Central Park and I was yelling at the police and they interacted with me.
01:15:40.300
We went down to Central Park and a cop let me sit in his fucking car and vape.
01:15:44.400
I mean, it was all just, the vape gods were on my side, dude, you know?
01:15:52.000
But another one, I'd say, another favorite, I don't know, I did this video called 90s Boy
01:15:58.500
Band where I was making fun of these frosted tip, deep tanned boy bands.
01:16:04.020
And we just went on a whole adventure through New York City where I got this fake tan and
01:16:15.160
You can get some that smells a little not as bad, but.
01:16:21.480
And at a petting zoo, you know, if you wear too much bronzer, they won't let you in certain
01:16:26.380
It just, the animals have a bad reaction to it.
01:16:34.320
Man, I wouldn't have been allowed in there for sure.
01:16:40.620
But Vape Nation, I mean, even for myself, it's like, it is.
01:16:49.460
But dude, I had a moment where you were talking about that.
01:16:53.060
It's interesting how sometimes with creativity.
01:16:56.380
If you just take the, like you said, you had your girl or you, you know, who was your partner
01:17:05.840
And sometimes that's so much better than all the planning in the world.
01:17:10.420
And sometimes, and most of the times, it's way worse.
01:17:13.760
So that's the problem I ran into is because I kept trying to re-bottle that lightning.
01:17:20.560
But ultimately, it's just, it's tricky because sometimes it's way better, but most of the
01:17:31.180
And ultimately, I think you learned that you need to be more structured.
01:17:37.620
Oh, it's interesting because sometimes it's like if something doesn't happen for the first
01:17:41.080
time, if it's not exactly new, which is one of the reasons why I think I like laughter
01:17:46.880
is because it's such a, you didn't know it was coming and it's going to be gone.
01:18:01.820
There's no denying that it occurred and that it was a, it's almost like the Big Bang Theory
01:18:09.840
You know, the first thing my son learned to do was laugh and smile.
01:18:15.380
It's the first thing they learn to communicate is laughter.
01:18:21.040
It's like the most deepest, the deepest, most primal feeling we have, communicating feeling
01:18:34.080
Well, obviously he cries first, lots of crying, but ultimately-
01:18:47.260
Yeah, his feeding window was closed when it needed to be open big time.
01:19:00.160
There's something beautiful about, right around six months when kids, you can still kind
01:19:03.500
of hold them and they'll be really kind of chill sometimes, but they're just getting
01:19:06.720
so alive that it's like, man, there's something real beautiful about that age.
01:19:19.480
I'm trying to get over there to Australia, maybe with another comedian.
01:19:21.720
We're trying to partner up and package and come back over there.
01:19:28.740
Ethan, man, just wanted to know if you ever plan on making any more videos on your main
01:19:35.820
channel or if you're just focused on the podcast now, because we miss the main channel videos
01:19:57.600
You know, the truth is, by the way, it's nice that everyone likes me.
01:20:03.500
And I'm so refreshed when people are nice to me and care about me.
01:20:06.420
You know what reminds me that I think you're a neat person is that you are your ability
01:20:17.700
Your transparency reminds me, it's just such a, it's such a nice quality I feel like you have.
01:20:24.460
That I think it's just like, oh, immediately I know at least I'm, I'm going to be able
01:20:30.020
And there's something that's very comfortable about that, I think, for people because we
01:20:35.980
I think for me, I found it like, I just think it's real healthy.
01:20:40.580
You don't want to, like, that, that could make you, I mean, that makes me feel real
01:20:43.960
bad at one point that's like, oh, I'm assuming that everyone out there hates me.
01:20:47.660
But at the same time, it's nice to be able to say that, you know, it alleviates the
01:20:58.440
You know, instead of holding that on, it feels real serious if you hold on to something like
01:21:05.720
So many things we don't realize that we have to get it out, though.
01:21:11.200
Even little things, little resentments we have against people, that shit fucking hides and turns
01:21:18.520
When did Dateline turn into just, was it always just murders and shit?
01:21:22.280
Well, the two most watched shows in the entire world, Joe Rogan, Dateline.
01:21:28.040
Oh, I believe that there's, I believe the two most consumed shows in the entire world,
01:21:32.200
and I believe this wholeheartedly, are Joe Rogan and Dateline.
01:21:34.640
I've tried watching Dateline a couple of times, but it kind of just feels like a poor man's
01:21:44.740
Bro, my mother, the first show we watched together was America's Most Wanted.
01:21:50.120
And she made me hold her hand when the parts got scary, and I was so fucking scared.
01:22:00.720
Dude, that show was badass when I was a kid, though.
01:22:06.960
Those guys scared the shit out of me, all those criminals.
01:22:15.200
I feel like at a certain point, those videos were exciting.
01:22:25.460
But I feel like, not just on YouTube, but in myself personally, that those videos don't.
01:22:38.640
I have to pull my own teeth to get the work done.
01:22:44.200
And although I know people like it, and frankly, I like it, too.
01:22:50.180
But I just find that maybe that part of my life is behind me.
01:22:57.300
That being said, I still have a studio in my house that's ready to go if I ever feel the need to make one of those videos.
01:23:04.480
Yeah, I like the idea of just making one off when I'm real inspired to do it.
01:23:08.600
When something comes up, then I'm like, I need to make a video about that.
01:23:11.560
But I just feel like, you know, I was doing that for a long time, man.
01:23:16.440
And I think it's time to just open a new chapter and just be there.
01:23:21.540
Because a lot of times, I've been doing the podcast for a while now.
01:23:23.940
And I feel like just now, recently, since Theodore was born, that I really feel like I'm doing the podcast.
01:23:32.220
You know, I was doing it, but now I'm really doing it.
01:23:41.580
I like that I'm working with other people, that it's collaborative, where if I'm making a video, it's all on my shoulders.
01:23:47.140
And I feel like I had a lot of resentment and frustration from that.
01:24:01.400
And in the case of the podcast, at first it was very difficult for me.
01:24:08.760
Like, we have three cast members that are back there.
01:24:24.260
And I think I'm following that feeling that there's something else out there for me to do now.
01:24:32.200
Hearing you say that, it makes me think, like, so many times we often, so many times it's hard to move on.
01:24:40.660
It's hard to, like, I'm really struggling recently.
01:24:50.280
I think it means, like, just, like, letting go of your freedom, letting go of, I think I've always revolved in such this kid space in myself that I don't really know how I am as an adult.
01:25:13.560
It wasn't the most fun a lot of times, but I fucking did a good job of it.
01:25:16.800
Do you have, like, positive adult role models in your life?
01:25:24.480
I mean, I have Brendan from King and the Sting, but so probably not, really.
01:25:32.460
I mean, as a kid looking up to an adult, did you have any positive adult role models?
01:25:39.120
And I think that I went through the same thing, is that I think a lot of the anxiety and pressure I was feeling, too, was kind of a...
01:25:51.140
And I think the problem is that you never saw an adult who was content and happy, and you thought, hey, that's cool.
01:26:01.360
That's something I want to do, is aging gracefully and becoming more mature and paying fucking bills and having a kid.
01:26:10.200
But for me, that was all scary shit that I associated with negative things.
01:26:19.520
But yeah, I think at some point, yeah, what you're saying is that, yeah, getting to a place and then embracing it.
01:26:25.300
Instead of living on both sides of the fence and stuff.
01:26:30.580
Yeah, and also, though, I think some of it is, too.
01:26:32.400
It's like, it's fun to, like, still be young while I can.
01:26:40.460
You know, you can't date some of these young girls.
01:26:42.080
You have to go out and pretend like you never fucking, like, heard some movies.
01:26:46.160
Like, you can't even mention any movies you like because they never heard of them.
01:26:58.800
Even when I'm in a conversation, if there's, like, a young...
01:27:00.640
You know, like, not a young girl, but I mean a young woman.
01:27:07.620
It's happening, and I need to get on board with it.
01:27:16.360
Maybe it's the haircut, or maybe it's the pills, you know?
01:27:28.760
I'm gonna live till I'm 100, but I'll die when I'm 60.
01:27:33.320
Yeah, you're, like, in a weird type of dog years.
01:27:35.960
People think I'm, like, some weird lecher on Hila, like, I'm some dude who dates outside
01:27:50.880
And I think that maybe one of my strengths, maybe, is just knowing when it's time to move
01:28:03.700
You know, it's tough, and especially the fans are resistant, too, and they make you
01:28:10.160
But ultimately, you know, ultimately, you'll know before they will.
01:28:17.520
And it's tough on you because they don't want you to move on.
01:28:19.800
But you know, for yourself, you have to move on.
01:28:29.740
But the truth is, these people will get tired of the same shit, too.
01:28:35.460
And you're just stuck in a rut doing the same stupid fucking song and dance you've been
01:28:48.940
Yeah, there's, you have to, yeah, there's a, there's a gracious time to, to, to, to evolve.
01:28:55.440
Like a worm is only a worm, you know, and finally, like, fuck y'all.
01:28:58.560
And people are like, oh, this fucking war, you're going to quit being a worm, dude?
01:29:14.120
You got to leave, you got to leave when it's good.
01:29:17.620
Let's leave into one more question that's come in.
01:29:25.040
This is Preston coming to you from Frankford, Kentucky.
01:29:27.740
I got a quick question for the Vape Nation God over there.
01:29:30.940
You know, so far, I don't know how many months into it, but you've,
01:29:35.780
What do you think's been the most rewarding part about being a dad?
01:29:39.180
And what do you look forward to the most is a little Fupa Junior gets older
01:30:09.160
And first of all, I never would have guessed he was a Preston.
01:30:16.720
I would have guessed this man was a Romero, maybe?
01:30:22.800
He's got hair on his face, on the bottom of his face.
01:30:30.500
I could see him as a karate instructor as well.
01:30:35.400
Another person who apparently likes me, so that's nice.
01:30:42.620
So many inside jokes, people, that they weren't really questions.
01:30:56.960
The best thing about having Theodore right now is he's just got this beautiful smile.
01:31:02.980
When he's just expressing joy, it's a beautiful thing.
01:31:07.740
I can't wait for him to be able to sit up on his own, to walk.
01:31:12.880
That's so exciting to me, to be able to know what he's thinking and what's going on in there,
01:31:16.700
because he's a little person who's marinating inside of there, and I can't wait to know who he is.
01:31:28.880
I don't hit him with the stick, and there's not candies inside.
01:31:35.240
But in other ways, he is, I do want to hang him from a tree.
01:31:54.500
I can't wait to do stuff, because right now he's still very young.
01:32:02.200
No, but I'm excited to take him places to do stuff.
01:32:19.000
I'm not looking forward to talking to him about pussy.
01:32:37.500
There'll be a time where you'll have to explain to your partner why your penis is so small.
01:32:49.300
But also, let him know that losing their virginity doesn't count if it's a micropenis.
01:32:58.600
Yeah, you've got to go elbow deep to lose your virginity.
01:33:06.960
Nick, anything else pertinent that you wanted to hit?
01:33:09.240
I was a little curious if you're worried about him growing up.
01:33:15.480
And then as he gets older, discovering stuff on his own?
01:33:24.100
I don't know how these young kids, because me and you, we grew up, the first time I saw a smartphone, I was in college.
01:33:31.540
Definitely the first time I had a cell phone, I was 20.
01:33:38.160
I've seen, like, actually, Bo Burnham made this great video about it, or movie about it, 8th Grade.
01:33:44.440
But I never thought about how these kids grow up with Instagram and all these social medias, and these little fucking kids with goddamn smartphones in, like, you know, middle school.
01:33:58.400
I don't, I just, I never grew up with that, so I almost don't know how to relate to that, that kind of social pressure.
01:34:05.300
I know that, like, the social pressures you feel just as a, as a, as a prepubescent or in high school or middle school is, is, you know, already stressful.
01:34:15.340
But the added stress of, like, interacting with people on Instagram, and do people like my post?
01:34:23.720
People are, like, trashing on people on Instagram.
01:34:25.960
There's, like, bullying on Instagram, and there's all these clicks, like, cyber clicks and shit.
01:34:32.440
I hope that I can, I hope that I can, you know, give, give him guidance through that, because I, I'm not sure what it's like to grow up like that.
01:34:42.600
I think keeping him human, you know, try and keep him in human spaces, you know, where he's having real feelings and things that are, you know, actual emotions and stuff, and not just reactions.
01:34:53.700
I think a lot of these kids are just more reactive, it seems like, the way that they live, kind of, with electronics.
01:34:59.580
But, yeah, I don't know, like, my niece thought imagination was an app, and that really spooked me.
01:35:09.880
Just like, I was like, you know, your imagination, he's like, what, what do you mean?
01:35:15.960
She's like, I don't think we have it, I'll check my mom's phone.
01:35:18.760
And I was like, alright, well, we're all gonna be in hell.
01:35:26.580
And I'm afraid of, like, I mean, it must tear apart their, I mean, the self-esteem, you know, you gotta put pictures of yourself online.
01:35:35.580
I mean, when I was that age, I couldn't look at photos of myself.
01:35:39.540
It would ruin my day to see a photo of myself at that age.
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Yet these kids gotta put photos of themselves online and try to compete with, like, the handsome kids in their school and shit.
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But do you think, in the end, that it all equates back to exactly the same way it was, just the medium's a little different?
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I mean, when I, I mean, more or less, you know, I think that's probably true.
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There's this weird other reflective surface in the world that wasn't there when we were.
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I mean, you have a ton of knowledge at your fingertips.
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I think that, I think that it gives them certain coordinating skills.
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And, you know, I've read studies like being in, being in a 3D world can kind of help your brain.
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Like playing video games in a 3D world can enhance your perception and wire your brain in a different way that, that, for, in a good way.
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Because you, you, because it's kind of a, it's kind of a, an incredible task to be able to, to actualize a 3D space on a 2D monitor.
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Like if you're playing a video game and you're wandering around and you're, you're, you're really existing in this 3D world, but it's just on a screen.
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I mean, that takes a lot of brain power, I feel like, and a lot of educating.
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It just happens that we enjoy it, we like doing it, but I think that that definitely taps into some kind of part of our brain that, that could be good.
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I think a lot of that kind of stuff is, is over, maybe over, is, is alarmist stuff.
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I, I'm not worried about video games so much as I am about the, the social pressure of, of being on Instagram when, at 12.
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Yeah, the social media was, it would definitely be different if there was, because at least whenever we left home and stuff, when we went home from school and stuff, that was Instagram.
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School was Instagram and it was gone once you left there.
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And you got to go home and have a life outside of there that was separate and that was.
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And I looked in the mirror a couple times a day and that's when I saw myself.
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It wasn't like, I'm trying to find the good angles.
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Yeah, you had to wait until you got home to see the mirror to even fucking see yourself.
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That I only need to remind myself I look like shit three times a day.
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I don't know how I deal with that as a young kid.
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I'm, I am a little bit worried about that, but I'll, I'll, you know, hopefully.
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He's got to deal with the fucking world that's burning.
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Look, man, any kid that for fucking two weeks is sucking on a dry tit, bro, I fucking respect
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And I love, I wish we'd have gotten to maybe talk a little bit more about, like, some of
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This has been a, no, this has been a good experience.
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Sometimes, for me, it's also about, sometimes it's just, like, it's easier than other times.
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It's, um, I think even being as a guest, sometimes it's easier for me.
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Like, this, being not a guest is always, for me, it's very tough sometimes.
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But, but, dude, you inspired us to get this office space.
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We really just kind of finished buttoning it up.
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Like, these, these counters in this control room were the last part.
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So, uh, I, I do, I was gonna pitch that to you, like, shooting, like, a crib-style thing.
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This is the first time that we've actually even comfortably, like, had Nick in there where it's, we did it one other time, but this is.
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So, uh, but, yeah, I remember you saying, I think there's a space in our building when I was here.
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We can hear it sometimes coming down the pipes.
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Somebody was storing mannequins in here, which was crazy.
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Specific ones, they were like, no way, these are off limits.
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But it definitely got interesting with the fucking.
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It's interesting what people do in these offices.
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Maybe in next reincarnation or two or three down the road.
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I'll hold one outside, but I'm not doing anything indoors.
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But I'll say this, man, is that Trisha Paytas, you guys just had that fair.
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By the end, I literally looked in my pants to see what was going on.
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She just seemed kind of desperate to me a little bit.
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But she's also very, I do, I love her, I watch some of her dance shows, some of it's
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She made this whole video about how she identifies as a trans male, even though she looks like
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a female, she dresses like a female, she even does porn as a female.
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She says you can be a lesbian and a gay man at the same time.
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I was like, whoa, dude, I'm in the LBGTQ zone right now.
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Somebody got stabbed to death, you know, recently.
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Every year, we would go to the Popeyes and watch people fucking fight.
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He works over there at Popeyes off of Highway 190.
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Dude, yeah, Popeyes was like a nice restaurant when I was young.
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Oh, that was like, of course, we're going out to Popeyes, son.
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Can you look up the Popeyes figurine toy that came in their Happy Meal?
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It was a little actual one of the Popeyes or olive oil.
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You could get spinach back in the day at Popeyes.
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And now it's just known for mixed people fucking body slamming each other in the parking lot.
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Bro, if Popeyes doesn't start to sponsor the UFC, I'm out.
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Give a big hug to your wife and congratulations on Theodore.
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And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be
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Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found
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A podcast where I'll be sharing thoughts on things like current events