This Past Weekend with Theo Von - Nicole Arbour ｜ This Past Weekend #96

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00:01:10.960 that. Also, this guest that we're coming in right now with, she is, well, she's controversial. 1.00

00:01:19.800 She's a comedian. Is she more comedian than controversy? Is she more controversy than comedian? 0.99

00:01:23.920 What's going on with this young lady? She's certainly been in the news the past day.

00:01:28.360 And that is Nicole Arbor.

00:01:31.000 Is she...

00:01:32.000 Oh yeah.

00:01:32.640 Is she...

00:01:35.120 Oh yeah.

00:01:39.640 We just wanna be pretty.

00:01:41.640 Pretty that's the goal.

00:01:43.540 We just wanna be pretty.

00:01:44.980 Is she?

00:01:45.500 Get them and be whole.

00:01:47.540 Why we been trying?

00:01:49.480 Don't deserve a raise.

00:01:51.520 Won't my boss to hit it.

00:01:53.240 Live a life this way.

00:01:55.320 We just wanna be pretty.

00:01:57.400 Pretty that's the goal.

00:01:58.820 We just once may get a mammy home 1.00

00:02:02.860 This is America

00:02:05.420 Don't catch you climbing up

00:02:07.580 Don't catch you climbing up

00:02:09.660 Cause they'll get you slipping up

00:02:11.500 Alright, we are good. Can you hear?

00:02:15.060 I can hear.

00:02:17.100 Hi, Slytherin. How are you today?

00:02:19.040 I'm not Slytherin. I'm so Gryffindor.

00:02:21.160 What are you? Move the mic a little bit closer.

00:02:22.820 Yeah, I'm definitely very...

00:02:24.920 Are you Gryffindor?

00:02:25.660 I'm so Gryffindor.

00:02:26.760 I've been tested multiple times.

00:02:28.900 The Wizarding World of Harry Potter.

00:02:30.640 When they put the hat on you?

00:02:32.000 They put the hat on me. I've been sorted.

00:02:33.880 I've done the sorting tests online.

00:02:35.440 I've gotten a wand.

00:02:37.200 You've tested Gryffindor positive?

00:02:38.740 Gryffindor positive all the time, even at the grand opening.

00:02:41.740 The wand chose me.

00:02:43.600 Are you really a Harry Potterer?

00:02:45.980 I'm a Potterhead, yes. I'm a big fan.

00:02:48.240 Nice. I've been getting into it.

00:02:49.800 I've only read about three or four of the books.

00:02:52.520 Reading is a waste of my time.

00:02:54.200 I'm just kidding.

00:02:55.300 There's a visual. Why would I read?

00:02:57.440 Yeah.

00:02:58.160 And this is a crazy week because you were going to come in yesterday and then you couldn't come in.

00:03:01.520 I know. I'm sorry.

00:03:03.080 It's okay.

00:03:03.480 First of all, I was going to come in.

00:03:04.760 It was a crazy week.

00:03:05.980 Put out one of those videos that went crazy viral.

00:03:08.340 Yeah.

00:03:08.920 Messages got skewed.

00:03:09.880 It was kind of interesting.

00:03:11.040 Always interesting.

00:03:12.020 Yeah.

00:03:12.200 Interwebs.

00:03:13.200 But yeah, it's an hour we're doing today.

00:03:15.460 Yeah.

00:03:15.860 And I appreciate you coming by.

00:03:17.240 And I was, yeah, because I was watching the video and I didn't know that you had this video

00:03:20.100 coming out whenever I'd asked you to come on the podcast.

00:03:22.320 Do you know that or not?

00:03:23.560 No.

00:03:24.140 Okay.

00:03:24.480 Well, I made it in 24 hours, so you probably wouldn't have known that.

00:03:27.420 Right.

00:03:27.880 Yeah.

00:03:28.100 But yeah, so I watched the video and I was just like, I guess, and obviously there was

00:03:34.200 some people, I got messages yesterday when I was like, Nicole Arbor's coming on and people

00:03:37.100 were like, what is she?

00:03:38.720 Oh, I'm not going to listen.

00:03:39.960 I'm not going to watch.

00:03:41.900 You know, people just like, why would you have her on?

00:03:45.160 You know, someone attacked me about it.

00:03:47.780 That's interesting.

00:03:48.760 Yeah.

00:03:49.180 Which I think is interesting, which whatever, you know, if that's how, you know, people want

00:03:53.700 to live, whatever.

00:03:54.360 But what was like your thought process with the video?

00:03:58.640 I'm a really big fan.

00:04:00.140 When I saw the original, like I watched, I consumed so much everything.

00:04:05.800 Yeah.

00:04:06.220 And this was the first thing in a real long time that I watched it and I was like, oh 0.99

00:04:09.980 shit, this is like boom in my heart. 0.99

00:04:14.280 Like it wasn't to me just about the theme of black people in America that got to me because 1.00

00:04:20.340 obviously I can't identify as that, but it was the truth.

00:04:23.460 I like, I think there's so much bravery in people being honest.

00:04:27.340 And I felt like it was really raw and really honest.

00:04:29.700 And even him like being shirtless and the facials and everything about it.

00:04:32.740 I was like, oh, this is real.

00:04:34.720 This is real.

00:04:35.560 I'm like, okay, well, what's real to me?

00:04:38.060 Because that's not my reality.

00:04:40.160 But I kind of think that I can show you my reality and then maybe, just maybe, I know 0.51

00:04:45.520 it's a crazy fucking idea, but we can find some common ground within our empathy for

00:04:50.900 each other and our experiences. 0.98

00:04:52.260 Because I see, as a Canadian, I see so much divide that I just haven't experienced growing

00:04:56.960 up in Canada.

00:04:58.140 Race relations are very different in Canada and America.

00:05:01.040 And when I came here, I almost had a culture shock.

00:05:03.140 Yeah, really?

00:05:04.140 Straight up.

00:05:04.740 I was like, wow.

00:05:06.060 I went to a hip hop club, which I go to all the time in Toronto.

00:05:08.640 And I went to a hip hop club here in Hollywood.

00:05:12.100 And I was one of two white people.

00:05:14.160 And they were like, someone came up to me, a guy and his girlfriend, obviously black.

00:05:18.820 And they were like, it's not that we don't know why you're here.

00:05:22.140 We just don't understand why you're so comfortable.

00:05:24.820 And I was like, I don't know.

00:05:26.140 Why wouldn't I be?

00:05:27.220 Yeah.

00:05:27.360 Like, yeah, I just wanted to like show my perspective of growing up as a woman.

00:05:32.740 And there was a lot of other girls that jumped in and did that too. 1.00

00:05:36.080 And I think a lot of people look at me and assume I'm extra stupid because of, there's 1.00

00:05:41.420 layers to this shit. 1.00

00:05:42.280 I'm a bit of a tiramisu. 0.99

00:05:43.860 And yeah, there's imagery throughout my entire video that people are definitely missing because

00:05:48.440 I think they just assumed I wouldn't have imagery in my video.

00:05:51.760 Right.

00:05:52.100 So yeah, the whole thing was an homage from my perspective in hopes of pivoting and making 0.99

00:05:57.340 everybody included in like, okay, we all have all this shit. 0.99

00:06:01.760 Let's unpile all of our baggage. 0.99

00:06:03.880 And let's just get fucking honest, meet at the ground floor and then go up. 0.81

00:06:08.740 Yeah. 0.60

00:06:09.000 Because I just, I don't like seeing people fighting about nothing all the time.

00:06:12.540 Yeah.

00:06:13.100 Yeah.

00:06:13.380 There's the idea.

00:06:14.520 So that was, so that's, so like, what was your thought?

00:06:16.880 So that was your idea going into the video?

00:06:19.320 Yeah.

00:06:19.640 Because you must've made it really fast.

00:06:21.400 24 hours.

00:06:22.460 Yeah.

00:06:22.660 I mean, so you, and now did you, can you move the mic a little closer?

00:06:25.600 Can you hear?

00:06:26.300 All right.

00:06:26.820 Yeah, we can hear.

00:06:27.500 All right.

00:06:27.740 Okay, great.

00:06:28.180 Um, did you, I mean, when you watch the video, did you, I mean, obviously there's a lot of

00:06:34.100 articles saying, you know, that it has so much like representation and, um, you know,

00:06:39.000 it has so many, so much symbolism and stuff like that.

00:06:41.940 Did you feel that when you first watched it or did you just feel like, oh, this is a, uh,

00:06:46.720 the Childish Gambino version.

00:06:48.580 Yeah.

00:06:48.860 I saw all of it.

00:06:49.840 Yeah.

00:06:50.120 I saw all of it.

00:06:50.840 And like, that's why, like, obviously mine isn't the higher level that his was.

00:06:55.460 Cause I had a 24 hour turnaround, which I'm pretty damn proud of. 0.99

00:06:58.600 I directed that shit. 1.00

00:06:59.720 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:59.880 I thought it looked good.

00:07:00.540 Look, I thought it looked good for 24 hours.

00:07:03.040 Thank you.

00:07:03.880 One thing was just like, well, it's so fast that she must've like, like, did, was your

00:07:10.160 thought process like, um, you know, I want to capitalize on the heat of this video.

00:07:15.400 No, it was more like in retrospect, if I knew how much bigger his video was a bet to

00:07:22.600 get, cause I made mine when it was at 43 million views.

00:07:24.900 So to me, I know the lifespan of a viral video or something going big is about a week.

00:07:29.300 Right.

00:07:29.560 So I was like, okay, I'll put this out at the one week mark.

00:07:32.180 And he was at 43 million views.

00:07:33.960 I'm like, okay, it's already huge.

00:07:35.180 It'll start declining now on the rise.

00:07:38.040 Cause I was looking at what's trending and I was like, okay, it's at this spot.

00:07:41.560 I don't think it's going to go higher.

00:07:43.000 I was wrong.

00:07:43.840 Um, so I could have like held off and put it out later in retrospect, definitely.

00:07:49.780 But yeah, I definitely wanted people, people know it's the same thing.

00:07:54.320 Yeah.

00:07:54.600 And did you know people would take such offense to your video?

00:07:58.620 Absolutely not.

00:08:00.300 No, it's, it was hilariously shocking to me cause I'm really good at creating a conversation

00:08:07.620 on offensive topics and hope of us like finding solutions.

00:08:10.780 Yeah, you're a rabble rouse. 1.00

00:08:11.540 I mean, you definitely. 0.98

00:08:12.420 Rabble rouse. 0.95

00:08:13.040 You're reeking rabble rouse. 1.00

00:08:14.020 I rouse the rabble. 0.97

00:08:14.960 You rouse the rabble. 0.97

00:08:15.780 Yeah, this one definitely not.

00:08:17.600 But you, so you didn't, I think that might be what it might be tough, you know, to not

00:08:22.500 to, I guess it's tough to believe maybe.

00:08:24.560 It's just that like, you know, you have, if you have a history of rabble rousing, do you 0.99

00:08:29.400 think it's, I mean, I guess you couldn't be surprised that people are going to think,

00:08:32.260 oh, this is just a rabble rouse again? 1.00

00:08:34.720 No, I can't.

00:08:35.940 I can't, I can't be surprised at that.

00:08:37.600 What, uh, it's interesting for me because I came out doing, I did stand up for years

00:08:43.680 and I was a professional dancer and choreographer.

00:08:46.400 I've choreographed and produced giant award shows.

00:08:48.600 Yeah.

00:08:48.740 I thought your dance was, uh, was spot on.

00:08:50.400 I mean, you know, I'm not a great dancer, so anything's good for me, but I thought it

00:08:54.020 was good.

00:08:54.540 Oh, thank you.

00:08:55.460 Uh, so for me to turn something around bigger, like a bigger production like that and direct

00:09:00.760 is things that people don't even know I do.

00:09:04.020 Yeah.

00:09:04.400 And for me, I'm, I'm bored at staring at a camera and talking to it.

00:09:08.640 Like it served its purpose, but I'm bored.

00:09:10.720 And the live tour I have coming out has elements of everything in it.

00:09:14.780 And I just wanted to make something bigger because that's what I wanted to do.

00:09:20.560 And there was such positive intention behind it.

00:09:23.400 Was there?

00:09:23.960 Hell yeah.

00:09:24.800 Like, and the entire cast and crew and like hearing people be like, oh, it's racist and 0.97

00:09:29.180 it's against black people. 0.95

00:09:30.440 I'm like, half of my cast and crew are black people. 0.59

00:09:34.820 Right. 0.85

00:09:35.020 The producer and the engineer, the sound engineer who are award winning in their fields are black 0.96

00:09:41.360 people. 0.95

00:09:41.860 The girl doing the hook.

00:09:42.940 Yeah.

00:09:43.120 I didn't, it didn't seem like that to me.

00:09:44.540 I'm not a black, you know, I'm not black.

00:09:46.340 What?

00:09:46.880 Unfortunately.

00:09:47.960 Um, but yeah, it didn't seem like that to me.

00:09:51.300 I mean, it seemed like it, I mean, I felt like it seemed hurried kind of, you know, it

00:09:57.400 definitely seemed, I was like, wow, I cannot believe she put this together.

00:10:00.460 You know, it's, I mean, it, it looks great.

00:10:02.880 Um, it just seemed kind of hurried.

00:10:04.600 It was just like, like, were you in a, were you like, and did you have a certain amount

00:10:09.660 of time that you had to get it done in or something?

00:10:11.320 Because it seemed like.

00:10:12.220 I was just really excited to get it out.

00:10:14.260 Yeah.

00:10:14.400 I thought, I thought that video was going to decline and I just loved it so much.

00:10:17.820 And I just like the original, I loved it.

00:10:19.720 And I just really in this utopia in my mind that I've created, if everybody put out their

00:10:27.300 version of what America is like to them, we would finally have some common ground.

00:10:31.420 Yeah.

00:10:31.660 Yeah.

00:10:32.200 Literally.

00:10:32.740 That's the utopia in my mind.

00:10:34.500 Right.

00:10:34.720 But, uh, well, we win some, we lose some.

00:10:38.320 Yeah.

00:10:38.720 It just seemed like it was, did it feel just like a, did it, I guess it, did it feel like

00:10:43.440 a success then or no?

00:10:44.880 So, yes, because I always want to start conversations.

00:10:49.340 That to me is like, if there's a big conversation starting, that means it needs to happen.

00:10:53.840 If we're not resolved on an issue, that's when there's a lot of controversy behind it.

00:10:58.720 We can't have controversy if there's a resolution on that topic.

00:11:01.820 So, it's not the topic I wanted to be discussing, but a topic came up nonetheless.

00:11:06.660 So, I'm doing a video tomorrow on how I think we can stop racism in America.

00:11:10.840 Wow.

00:11:11.160 And I have theories and I think I'm at a cool spot because I am Canadian and I can step

00:11:16.140 back and kind of see a big picture and maybe people will agree, maybe they'll disagree,

00:11:21.460 but.

00:11:22.580 Do you think that if you were, like, who can put out a women, because your video is a women's 1.00

00:11:29.880 edit.

00:11:30.140 You're like, this is, as a woman, this is what I see.

00:11:32.620 You know, this is my, like, my childhood, you know, this is my version.

00:11:36.420 Yes.

00:11:36.720 This is of what it's like for me as a woman or what some of my life is like, right?

00:11:41.380 Yeah.

00:11:41.840 Or things I see or whatever.

00:11:43.100 Yeah.

00:11:43.500 Women's version. 0.91

00:11:44.280 Women's experience.

00:11:45.180 Yeah.

00:11:45.360 Um, and a lot of people said, you know, I heard that like, oh, well, if this were a black

00:11:50.580 woman or a Latino woman that nobody would care, nobody would have been upset. 0.93

00:11:54.720 Yes.

00:11:55.160 But that's like a lot of what I've done in my entire career with my, let's say, Dear Fat

00:11:59.800 People video.

00:12:00.500 People are like, oh, well, if she was ugly, then no one would care if she put out this 1.00

00:12:05.440 video. 0.79

00:12:05.920 Yeah.

00:12:06.160 There would be no pushback on like, uh, other videos I've done.

00:12:10.520 They're like, yeah, but if she was a dude and said the same things, there'd be no issue.

00:12:13.420 So male comedians have said similar thoughts.

00:12:16.120 Carlin did this.

00:12:17.040 And like, I hear I'm the wrong look like daily.

00:12:21.320 And the irony is that's in my video too.

00:12:24.040 Yeah.

00:12:24.780 Yeah. 0.91

00:12:25.440 Of course, if it was a black woman or a Latina, no one would have cared. 1.00

00:12:28.720 No one would have cared. 0.58

00:12:29.380 I mean, I do think there's a double standard sometimes that it's like, you know, um, that

00:12:34.860 it's feels sometimes like white people can't say anything.

00:12:38.920 Um, yeah, that's what I'm definitely touching on in my video tomorrow.

00:12:42.660 And I read a lot of the comments from both sides and it just feels like, I think we're

00:12:48.800 both at the same spot actually, because white people feel like they're walking on eggshells

00:12:52.820 for certain reasons.

00:12:54.160 It's like what you say can and will be used against you in the court of black Twitter. 0.89

00:12:58.360 And then on the other side, there's black people who rightfully feel on eggshells because there's 1.00

00:13:05.660 people being shot for no reason.

00:13:07.560 There's people being imprisoned.

00:13:09.360 Like I can see both sides, but we, we have to talk, you know what I mean? 0.97

00:13:14.400 Like we have to get this shit out and we have to stop judging each individual person as a 0.98

00:13:19.440 whole of that group just because of their skin color on both sides. 0.99

00:13:22.740 Yeah.

00:13:23.340 Yeah.

00:13:24.080 Yeah.

00:13:24.440 I think, I mean, look, I agree.

00:13:26.000 I mean, it's definitely always good to have a conversation.

00:13:28.080 That's why some people were like, you shouldn't have her on.

00:13:29.660 And I was like, well, you know, it's conversation.

00:13:32.980 Like, what are we going to, how do we, you know, if we limit ourselves from things that

00:13:38.480 we, that sometimes we don't agree with or things that we're unsure about or just things

00:13:42.940 that other people said, like, this is bad or this isn't how I like it or whatever.

00:13:46.540 Um, then how are we, you know, then we're just going to be stuck in our safe kind of

00:13:50.740 universes.

00:13:51.700 But did you think you had to think when you saw that video that it was, you know, there's

00:13:56.980 so much like, you know, like black attraction to it, like so many art, like so much revelry 0.94

00:14:03.580 and excitement, um, that did you think that like, Oh, this is going to piss off some black 0.97

00:14:10.380 people? 0.93

00:14:10.800 Like if I go in here, so no, not at all.

00:14:15.540 Really?

00:14:16.060 Not, not even for a second.

00:14:18.820 And because as someone that's controversial, I feel like that you, that's kind of where

00:14:23.080 your nucleus would start.

00:14:24.740 I thought feminists might be the only ones who come at me like, no, like what would feminists 1.00

00:14:31.720 be?

00:14:31.960 Cause if it's a woman's edit, what would feminists be upset about? 1.00

00:14:34.480 If they were like, Oh, you don't represent us.

00:14:36.240 You don't represent all of us. 0.88

00:14:37.400 Like I hear that any, anything I do, I get people being like, you can't do that after

00:14:42.920 I already did it.

00:14:44.180 Um, but there were also so many opportunities for say my producer or my sound engineer or

00:14:51.700 the female vocalist.

00:14:52.520 Yeah.

00:14:52.580 I thought the cast was diverse.

00:14:53.820 I mean, I thought there was definitely diversity in the cast.

00:14:55.780 I was like, yeah, they were all really excited because we really did have a really cool,

00:15:01.080 genuine message and I broke it down in a really cool way.

00:15:06.360 And there's so much imagery in it. 1.00

00:15:08.280 If it's actually watched does not look at this stupid white girl trying to imitate or 1.00

00:15:12.660 steal or whatever. 1.00

00:15:14.100 If you actually look at it, like I did my best.

00:15:16.980 I did my thing.

00:15:17.700 I thought, look, I thought you did your best.

00:15:19.380 You know, I definitely thought that I thought it was like, I mean, I wasn't a huge fan of

00:15:23.640 the song.

00:15:24.040 The challenge came in a song.

00:15:24.820 Like I wasn't like out of the world with it.

00:15:26.760 Like I thought it was good.

00:15:27.960 You know, video is better than the track.

00:15:29.460 Yeah.

00:15:29.700 But I thought the video was, I thought the video was super.

00:15:32.020 And it definitely, you know, it makes you think about things.

00:15:34.460 It made me feel there were moments where I wanted to keep it on and, you know, and turn

00:15:38.760 it up.

00:15:39.200 And there were moments where I wanted to turn it off when I was watching his original version.

00:15:42.260 Like, you know, so, and I liked that.

00:15:43.680 I liked that it like, you know, it had me going in all different ways and had me like, you

00:15:47.840 know, I had visceral reactions to it, you know, where I found myself like, geez, what's

00:15:52.440 going on?

00:15:52.920 Like, am I, should I, am I okay watching this here in this place where I'm watching?

00:15:56.660 You know, I had some real reactions.

00:15:58.400 That's good.

00:15:58.720 Um, and I think that was the point of the video too, right?

00:16:01.740 For something like, depending on who you were watching the video, you would get a different

00:16:06.600 reaction out of it.

00:16:07.580 Yeah.

00:16:08.160 You know, cause I know like coming from a Latino's perspective too.

00:16:10.920 Like, and this is a Chris Perez is our producer, Chris Perez.

00:16:13.180 It's on now.

00:16:13.720 Holla, his beard game is so strong.

00:16:15.380 Yeah.

00:16:15.700 Thank you.

00:16:16.620 Yeah.

00:16:16.800 I mean, coming at it from a Latino's perspective, I definitely got a different take out of it.

00:16:21.760 I feel then even some black people did and then some white people did watching it.

00:16:25.960 But I think that was the point.

00:16:27.440 Yeah.

00:16:27.540 About art?

00:16:28.400 Yeah.

00:16:28.600 Yeah, exactly.

00:16:29.180 It's up to your own interpretation.

00:16:30.860 Yeah.

00:16:31.180 So did you feel like then like, I mean, do you feel like you succeeded in representing,

00:16:37.000 like pulled off kind of a woman's edit or do you feel like you, um, do you feel like

00:16:42.680 you like that you, cause you kind of got like a lot of racial pushback and stuff too.

00:16:48.400 Do you feel like you were deserving of that or that was all just a skew?

00:16:52.200 I think it was, well, here's the thing.

00:16:54.600 I think everyone gets to think what they want.

00:16:57.600 Yeah.

00:16:57.820 It's just the fun part of art.

00:16:59.400 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:59.520 I got a lot of comments from women who were like, holy fuck. 1.00

00:17:02.720 Thank you. 1.00

00:17:03.540 You just said that thing that I think, but I've never said.

00:17:07.180 Right.

00:17:07.440 And I got a lot of that, which is cool.

00:17:09.260 And then I got a lot of black people being like, yo, I get what you were doing. 1.00

00:17:12.820 And that was ballsy as fuck. 1.00

00:17:14.080 Good for you. 1.00

00:17:15.420 You did your thing.

00:17:16.420 And then I got people saying, you're racist. 0.99

00:17:19.600 You're white. 0.99

00:17:20.480 You're not allowed to talk. 1.00

00:17:21.440 You're not allowed to comment on anything that black people do or any black art. 0.96

00:17:24.980 And I'm like, oh, that's a different thing. 0.88

00:17:27.480 That's a different conversation.

00:17:29.160 So I think I succeeded in what I was creating.

00:17:32.800 Didn't mean to bring up the other conversations.

00:17:36.380 And it's been pretty interesting to dive into that stuff.

00:17:39.940 But I do understand where some hurt came from.

00:17:42.840 Because some screenshots of different things I've commented back to people were clipped

00:17:47.940 really tight and then taken out of context.

00:17:50.360 And I totally see where hurt feelings can come from that.

00:17:52.460 Like, a hundred and thousand percent.

00:17:54.960 Like, I typed, some guy was like, what's the opposite of white woman tears everywhere?

00:17:59.680 And I was like, black woman tears everywhere? 0.99

00:18:01.820 Like, that's me just being a smartass? 0.99

00:18:04.000 No, they just clipped that. 0.99

00:18:05.440 Black woman tears everywhere. 1.00

00:18:07.060 Nicole Arbor. 0.99

00:18:07.860 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:08.180 And I'm like, oh, fuck. 1.00

00:18:09.520 Really? 1.00

00:18:10.340 That's dumb. 0.98

00:18:11.480 But the internet. 0.99

00:18:11.900 Yeah, that's the internet.

00:18:12.960 It's just, yeah.

00:18:13.600 It's messed up.

00:18:14.500 It's a messed up world out.

00:18:15.540 It's a messed up world out there.

00:18:16.780 I mean, you know, it's like anybody can put out anything.

00:18:19.280 Yeah.

00:18:20.620 Do you feel, like, I feel like there could have been more time between when you put yours

00:18:25.400 out and when his was out.

00:18:28.540 And you, there was no, you had no, because I find like you like rushed to get it out,

00:18:33.160 it seems like.

00:18:33.760 I thought that it was going to go down.

00:18:35.280 I saw how fast it trended.

00:18:37.080 And I just know that generally a trend like that, I didn't think it was going to be Pharrell

00:18:42.340 Happy.

00:18:42.940 I thought that it was going to be big, but I didn't know it was Pharrell Happy big. 0.97

00:18:46.220 Like, so I was like, I felt like an asshole when People Magazine wrote that article recently. 0.92

00:18:50.960 Like, it was nice. 0.88

00:18:52.180 They were really fair. 0.99

00:18:52.980 And I thought that was super cool, but I felt like an asshole. 0.81

00:18:55.380 I'm like, okay, now I'm, I'm literally deflecting shine from the original. 0.92

00:18:58.740 And that was not what I wanted to do.

00:19:00.740 I wanted to add to it.

00:19:02.000 Like, not to say that it is like Pharrell Happy, but like, I loved that when Pharrell had

00:19:06.440 that and it made people feel something, thousands and thousands of people made their own

00:19:11.020 happy videos.

00:19:12.020 And I loved it.

00:19:12.820 And I just like, I don't know.

00:19:14.540 I just, I saw something different for it.

00:19:16.440 And see, and like, I want to believe you, you know, and I do, I want to believe you,

00:19:20.460 you know?

00:19:21.180 Um, but I guess, I guess you, you just, since you have this realm of like controversy that

00:19:27.500 it makes it tough to, I guess so.

00:19:29.940 Like, but do you, but you understand that though?

00:19:33.240 Yeah.

00:19:33.680 It's funny.

00:19:34.160 I was doing an interview with, uh, Yahoo earlier today and she's like, in Santa Monica?

00:19:40.580 Um, just on the phone.

00:19:41.760 Like we didn't, I did a bunch of interviews today and the one with Yahoo was interesting

00:19:45.160 because she's like, oh, was this like, you were trying to just get attention for this

00:19:48.720 to do?

00:19:49.040 I'm like, no, I was like, I was just doing some art.

00:19:52.780 Yeah.

00:19:53.400 I'm not, I'm not at level 12, piss people off all the time.

00:19:57.760 And when I am pissing people off, my core fans definitely know it's always to get to

00:20:03.040 something real and a resolution.

00:20:04.800 Every single video I've ever done, if you break it down, like, let's say the most controversial

00:20:10.020 of dear fat people, it's like, I was disabled for six years.

00:20:14.000 I could barely walk.

00:20:15.120 And then I would see people doing things to their bodies and like abusing themselves and

00:20:23.080 self-inflicted pain.

00:20:24.560 And I'm like, ah, I wish I could do what you're doing right now. 0.98

00:20:28.380 Like, I wish I could go out and go running and you're eating garbage and you're killing 0.99

00:20:32.680 yourself and you're, you're eating your feelings. 0.98

00:20:35.020 And you were logged up.

00:20:35.880 You were stopped.

00:20:36.500 You were shut down.

00:20:37.460 I was stuck.

00:20:38.080 Yeah.

00:20:38.300 And I was like, we need, sometimes you need a drill sergeant.

00:20:42.920 Sometimes you need a hug.

00:20:44.280 And I felt like people to snap them out of that needed a drill sergeant.

00:20:47.720 And if someone's dying, which I felt like a lot of people are on that topic, it doesn't

00:20:52.340 help to rub their shoulder. 0.99

00:20:53.680 You got to get the fucking paddles and shock them and be like, what are you doing? 0.99

00:20:57.600 So that's like what I did with that one. 0.99

00:20:59.360 But each video, like I treat each thing differently depending on the topic, but it's always with 0.92

00:21:03.520 the hopes of a resolution and like us just keeping it fucking real. 0.94

00:21:07.380 Yeah. 0.96

00:21:07.800 Yeah.

00:21:08.500 Do you feel...

00:21:09.500 You'll get to know me more and I think you'll change your mind.

00:21:11.580 Okay.

00:21:12.100 Yeah.

00:21:12.720 Yeah.

00:21:13.000 And maybe it takes some of that.

00:21:14.100 I mean, I met you on Jim Jeffries podcast.

00:21:15.940 You know, we did that together like a couple of weeks ago.

00:21:17.580 Yeah.

00:21:17.880 And I thought you were extremely funny.

00:21:19.460 Right.

00:21:19.760 And I didn't know about, you know, any, I didn't know that you had like this, you noticed

00:21:26.460 you had this kind of controversial kind of vibe, you know, or sometimes this controversial

00:21:30.700 trail that kind of follows you.

00:21:32.720 I still think it's funny.

00:21:34.160 Yeah.

00:21:34.520 No, I know you do.

00:21:35.580 I know you do.

00:21:36.440 And look, I think there's all types of entertainment.

00:21:38.520 I mean, I thought that your video was, um, I was like, wow, this is impressive.

00:21:43.180 Like how, like, how did she get this, you know, how did she get this done?

00:21:46.160 And so fast, I mean, it was so fast cause it was what 48 hours after his came out or something.

00:21:52.080 Well, it was a week.

00:21:53.880 I put it out like the literal one week mark.

00:21:55.880 Oh, wow.

00:21:56.400 Okay.

00:21:56.580 I thought it was even sooner.

00:21:57.420 My bad.

00:21:57.920 I recorded it a bit sooner cause I had like one day to kind of tweak it and stuff, but it's

00:22:02.140 cause I, I produce large scale things all of the time and people don't know like 90%

00:22:06.840 of what I do.

00:22:07.800 Right.

00:22:08.140 I work with amazing brands.

00:22:09.640 I, I have a whole other life other than those things and the comedy.

00:22:14.040 And, uh, yeah.

00:22:15.440 So for me to call up some dancers and some other people and say, Hey guys, I have this idea.

00:22:19.480 It's positive.

00:22:20.320 You had a lot of support.

00:22:21.760 I did.

00:22:22.340 And like the people in it, there were reporters in it.

00:22:25.420 There were the people from Playboy radio in it.

00:22:28.040 There were like, there were a lot of real cool people and, uh, everyone had a great, like

00:22:33.100 a positive vibe behind it. 0.99

00:22:34.800 So I'm sure to pull that shit together. 0.98

00:22:36.780 We had a big team meeting at the beginning and I'm like, I want us to remember our messages 0.99

00:22:40.160 here.

00:22:40.660 Why are we doing this?

00:22:41.920 Why are we doing this part?

00:22:42.920 Who wants this role? 0.99

00:22:44.420 Have you experienced this?

00:22:45.660 Okay.

00:22:45.840 You can do that.

00:22:46.740 Right.

00:22:46.940 Like we went through a lot went into it.

00:22:49.280 Yeah.

00:22:49.640 A lot of thought and a lot of thought and care.

00:22:52.620 Yes.

00:22:53.040 I hope, I hope you rewatch it.

00:22:54.560 There's like, you know, I've watched it a couple of times.

00:22:57.860 Um, and I mean, no, it's interesting.

00:22:59.780 You're talking about it.

00:23:00.460 I mean, it's like, you know, there's definitely a thing out there where it's, you know, um,

00:23:05.080 where things get roasted on, in, uh, in Twitter and in these weird worlds where it's, you know,

00:23:12.300 it's, it can be a lot of bandwagon.

00:23:13.660 I mean, obviously there's so much bandwagon, you know, finger pointing and hatred out and

00:23:17.840 out there.

00:23:18.580 Yeah.

00:23:18.900 You know, on the web.

00:23:20.240 I mean, I felt like probably a lot of people were, I think maybe people's upsetness.

00:23:25.260 That's not a word, but it is.

00:23:26.500 Now it is.

00:23:26.920 Yeah.

00:23:27.500 Could come from just the fact that it was so close to that.

00:23:30.280 Like, I think people were still trying to live in this world of this video and learn what

00:23:34.080 it was about.

00:23:34.640 And then, yeah, I could see how somebody would be like, oh, and then some white woman 1.00

00:23:37.900 came along and took it from us, you know, but I see it.

00:23:41.720 Yeah.

00:23:41.980 So you understand that.

00:23:43.060 I understand it.

00:23:44.080 It wasn't the intention.

00:23:45.140 And I think it's, uh, as human beings, right.

00:23:48.120 At some point we do have to just be human.

00:23:50.100 No, at some point we do just have to be human beings.

00:23:52.340 And it's like, you know, if, if we're all going to be equal, then we'd all just need

00:23:57.660 to be equal.

00:23:58.920 You know, I understand that.

00:24:00.980 And yeah, if you weren't a white woman, would people have looked at you the same? 1.00

00:24:04.480 Would have, they, they have been as upset.

00:24:07.180 Um, no, I don't think so.

00:24:10.340 No, the answer is no.

00:24:11.720 And the funny part is like, I've been discussing this like with my team.

00:24:14.340 And again, we're, we're, we are a funny bunch.

00:24:17.160 It's like every shape, size, color race. 0.74

00:24:19.100 Yeah.

00:24:19.400 And, uh, they're all like, Nicole, you're, you're used to this. 1.00

00:24:22.240 People always assume you're stupid. 0.99

00:24:23.860 They assume there's no intent behind anything you do. 1.00

00:24:26.340 Yeah.

00:24:26.780 I can relate to those things.

00:24:29.020 You know, that's the same thing.

00:24:29.940 People think a lot about me a lot of times, you know?

00:24:31.920 Um, yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, it's just, it's certainly interesting.

00:24:37.780 Um, so interesting.

00:24:39.160 But now, so how do you find this though?

00:24:40.920 This is where I struggle, like, like, or not struggle, but this is where I'm wondering,

00:24:44.560 how do you go from controversy to comedy though?

00:24:48.840 Well, that's where I'm like, well, how does this contra comedy?

00:24:52.580 Cause if people show up and they are, you know, if people are like miffed, if we can

00:24:59.320 use that word, then how are you going to, you know, how do you then, it seems like you're

00:25:04.140 bringing them a far way back around to get them to laugh.

00:25:07.140 Well, that video wasn't supposed to make them laugh.

00:25:10.000 Like if we're talking about that video in particular.

00:25:11.560 No, I think I'm just talking overall, like how do you go from controversy?

00:25:14.260 Well, my other videos aren't, my other videos are comedy videos.

00:25:18.460 And then I put real points in there. 0.98

00:25:20.400 It's like the real shit's peppered within it. 0.99

00:25:22.320 Uh-oh, accidentally made you learn. 1.00

00:25:23.660 Ha ha.

00:25:24.340 Uh, and then I just like do my nonsense.

00:25:26.720 So that's easy. 0.99

00:25:27.800 And then I do live shows and I put the real shit in there and I just like, I like to secretly 0.98

00:25:32.960 teach people things or make them secretly think about stuff. 0.98

00:25:35.880 But something like this, like, I don't know, I'm going to navigate it because I do want

00:25:40.860 to be going more of that direction too. 0.98

00:25:43.440 I'm going to be doing more politically charged shit. 0.94

00:25:47.280 I want to talk on real topics. 0.98

00:25:48.720 I don't want to be a one dimensional, one trick.

00:25:51.020 It's true.

00:25:51.580 Just be funny only because I, I have more to me and I actually love that about Childish

00:25:56.060 Gambino and all of his different sides.

00:25:58.280 Like he does stand up, he does acting, he does his music, he, I, that's who I am.

00:26:04.600 So I have to start letting that out or I won't be happy as a person.

00:26:07.200 Right.

00:26:07.720 Yeah.

00:26:08.000 I'm not worried about it.

00:26:09.320 Yeah.

00:26:09.500 No, I don't feel like you're worried about it.

00:26:10.620 But I, you know, well, I guess maybe that would have been a next question of mine.

00:26:13.740 Like, yeah.

00:26:14.060 Did you have some reservations after?

00:26:16.040 Like, I'm sure there had to be a moment or two where you were like, cause I would be

00:26:19.560 scared.

00:26:19.940 Like the internet sometimes can be scary to me.

00:26:21.800 Like I remember one time I was dating, um, you know, I dated like this lady that was 1.00

00:26:27.080 on real housewives a couple of years ago or something.

00:26:29.200 Right.

00:26:29.660 And suddenly it was, I was at the gym and it was like on the bottom of the ticker and

00:26:33.760 I was like, what the F like, and I wasn't even like super really dating her, you know,

00:26:38.340 like it was just kind of whatever.

00:26:39.560 And then I'm like, and I just remember being like, I don't like this.

00:26:44.000 Like I want to be an entertainer, but I, whatever this other thing is happening out here where

00:26:49.400 it's like, there's this press and there's this opinion or, and this stuff that's forming

00:26:53.700 about me that I have no control over.

00:26:56.260 That's not based on my talent.

00:26:58.220 I didn't like that at all.

00:26:59.820 It felt extremely, I remember calling my manager.

00:27:03.340 I was like, can you just make this stop somehow?

00:27:05.080 Like just make the, like it was on everything.

00:27:06.700 It was on everything.

00:27:08.540 And, uh, and that was just super scary.

00:27:11.140 Um, so I'm sure, and I'm sure you felt a lot of like some of that, like when that kind 1.00

00:27:15.140 of thing rises up.

00:27:16.500 Yeah.

00:27:16.960 So like last time I had tons of controversy, I've had controversy a bunch of times.

00:27:21.980 The first time I was not ready, I was not ready.

00:27:24.640 And I was literally disabled still and on disability when I filmed my first video that

00:27:29.560 went crazy viral.

00:27:30.420 That's why I'm sitting in the white wall.

00:27:31.940 I was sitting in bed.

00:27:33.200 So was that for, uh, large people?

00:27:35.320 That was, that was my third.

00:27:37.760 Okay.

00:27:38.160 The fourth super viral video was Dear Fat People.

00:27:39.880 Okay.

00:27:40.320 Yeah.

00:27:40.580 But that one, when that one went crazy viral, I was still on disability. 0.55

00:27:44.900 So I was like, oh shit, I'm getting press in the UK. 0.97

00:27:47.040 Were you on pills or something? 0.99

00:27:48.180 No.

00:27:48.480 I was on everything for like years.

00:27:51.340 But you remember making it and everything.

00:27:52.860 Like this was playing.

00:27:53.700 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:53.960 Okay.

00:27:54.320 Yeah.

00:27:54.600 No, no.

00:27:55.000 That's a hundred percent Nicole-ness. 0.58

00:27:56.560 Yeah.

00:27:56.920 But that's Nicole then.

00:27:59.060 You know what I mean?

00:27:59.660 Like I was still in pain and like, I would make that video so different now. 0.98

00:28:03.400 But, uh, yeah, I was like, oh shit, I better get up because. 0.97

00:28:08.720 Here's, I'm on a roller coaster whether I like it or not. 0.98

00:28:10.840 So I better show up to this stuff.

00:28:12.760 And it was crappy.

00:28:14.520 It's like, you don't know what to expect.

00:28:17.380 And when people are saying things that are untrue about you and I've had people pretend

00:28:20.600 that they're dating me.

00:28:21.380 I've had like, I've had a whole bunch of that stuff, that icky feeling of like, ah, don't

00:28:25.180 know.

00:28:25.780 Let's focus on like the thing I do.

00:28:27.880 It's feels pervasive almost.

00:28:30.120 And, uh, I don't like it either.

00:28:31.940 But this time around when that started happening, I didn't anticipate it like that, but I felt

00:28:36.320 like I was ready because I know who I am now and people, and this is going to sound so

00:28:42.420 afterschool special, but people calling me a racist doesn't make me a racist.

00:28:46.620 Right.

00:28:46.880 I agree with you.

00:28:47.660 It's a good point.

00:28:48.260 I mean, there's so much witch hunting out there these days and it's ill, a lot of it's

00:28:52.080 just immediate.

00:28:52.640 It's like, people don't even know.

00:28:54.460 They have no idea.

00:28:55.700 Um, cause I, you wouldn't, you know, I mean, I don't know.

00:28:59.180 You don't, I don't know.

00:29:00.780 You didn't strike me as a racist person.

00:29:03.140 You know, the video didn't strike me as all at all as racist.

00:29:06.420 Yeah, it wasn't.

00:29:07.540 You know?

00:29:07.980 And I mean, I feel like, I feel like I would know a racist pretty easy cause I've, you know,

00:29:12.140 I grew up in an area where there's a lot of racism.

00:29:15.280 Um, and I feel like it's, uh, I mean, I felt like, yeah, it's kind of messed up that,

00:29:20.060 you know, it is tough.

00:29:20.980 It's, it's tougher these days for a white woman to have a voice. 1.00

00:29:24.040 Um, it's tough or some white women anyway. 1.00

00:29:27.160 And you know, I don't, I love your chance by the way.

00:29:28.520 I'm going to say cross-legged.

00:29:29.580 Um, you know, I'm not comparing my, in quotes, struggle to other people, but legitimately,

00:29:35.680 I feel like I am not allowed to be a intelligent, be talented unless my clothes are taken off,

00:29:42.540 which I address in my video by the dancers being scantily clad.

00:29:46.180 All are professional ballerinas, but it doesn't matter.

00:29:48.760 Cause when we show up on set, we were supposed to be in thongs and be twerking. 1.00

00:29:52.060 Like we are really put into these boxes and I just, I can't live like that. 0.99

00:29:57.800 I can't give a fuck. 0.99

00:29:59.100 I have to do what I'm here to do and what I'm called to do. 0.99

00:30:02.940 Well, I don't know what you believe in up there, but, uh, when I have ideas and larger

00:30:07.800 concepts and I'm being called to do it, I just, I have to do what I got to do.

00:30:12.280 And, and do you like, do, but do you risk, I mean, do you feel like, was there a fear this 0.96

00:30:16.460 time that you're like, fuck, I'm going to lose, I'm going to lose my whole audience. 0.97

00:30:20.640 Like I'm going to lose. 1.00

00:30:21.940 No, there wasn't. 1.00

00:30:23.680 Like, I think you have those little like waves of like, oh fuck, oh fuck. 1.00

00:30:26.760 But then I'm like, no, you're good. 1.00

00:30:29.220 You're good.

00:30:30.180 This is not a real thing.

00:30:32.080 People are intelligent.

00:30:33.600 They'll know that.

00:30:34.660 I'm so thankful this time that like people I thought was really fair and Perez Hilton of

00:30:41.580 all people I thought was really fair, which is cool.

00:30:43.780 Cause he wasn't so fair to me in the past, but like.

00:30:46.260 Yeah.

00:30:46.360 He's changed a lot in like the past six or seven years.

00:30:48.480 I remember having an interview with him a couple of, about six months ago and he was

00:30:52.800 a lot different than he used to be a long time ago.

00:30:54.680 Isn't that fun though?

00:30:55.420 How we like, we get to change and I think we have to allow people that ability to change.

00:31:00.880 Yeah. 0.98

00:31:01.000 We have to give people room to a fuck up because if we're all living in a world where 0.99

00:31:04.740 we're not allowed to fuck up or experiment, especially when we're all fucked up anyhow. 0.99

00:31:08.300 Right. 1.00

00:31:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:09.340 Express your fuckingness. 0.99

00:31:10.500 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:10.740 Like, yeah.

00:31:11.660 I think we all have to just like loosen the reins a little bit.

00:31:15.300 And I think that'll happen more when, uh, we start having real conversations and being

00:31:19.160 honest because yeah, it's weird.

00:31:21.240 I think of someone like Justin Bieber who grew up with that kind of like scrutiny on

00:31:27.000 him and, or Chris Brown that, you know, he makes a mistake that of course it's a, it's

00:31:32.040 a bad mistake.

00:31:32.840 What happened with him and Rihanna, but for him to have to live in that forever, it's just

00:31:38.060 not fair.

00:31:38.680 It's not, it's not real.

00:31:39.800 And I think we got to like readdress how we are treating each other.

00:31:42.860 Kind of.

00:31:43.420 Well, do you think, um, but do you feel like, I mean, some of your stuff that it, that

00:31:49.100 it treats people, I mean, if, if like a, like say like the fast shame video, like, is

00:31:54.620 that like a joke or is that real?

00:31:56.600 It's just like your real thoughts and it's.

00:31:58.720 Well, that's like going to character mode.

00:32:00.840 Right.

00:32:01.100 You know what I mean?

00:32:01.560 It's definitely a character.

00:32:02.660 It's a funny character.

00:32:03.760 Oh, thank you.

00:32:04.420 Yeah.

00:32:04.600 It's a hyper version of one part of my brain.

00:32:07.620 Yeah.

00:32:07.860 And, uh, I'm sure you have those too, but that served its purpose.

00:32:12.280 Like I got thousands upon thousands of people and I still get them daily being like, you

00:32:17.180 saved my life. 0.99

00:32:18.180 I needed someone to, I watched your video and I went, Oh fuck, she's talking to me and I 0.99

00:32:23.100 lost X pounds. 0.98

00:32:23.960 Like, I'll show you the photos of my phone.

00:32:25.760 I believe you.

00:32:26.660 Our producer said he might be fat.

00:32:28.280 He said he might be fat the other day.

00:32:30.040 Chris, do you want to chime in?

00:32:31.040 I just barely found that out. 0.97

00:32:32.400 Someone brought it up to me that you might be fat. 0.91

00:32:34.580 Yeah. 0.62

00:32:35.000 Just a little bit.

00:32:35.880 Yeah.

00:32:36.280 You know, it's, it's actually funny cause my weight fluctuates a lot.

00:32:39.540 And my best friend read this article of some guy who texted his friend that he was fat

00:32:44.400 every day until he lost the weight.

00:32:47.500 And during college and finals, I was stressing out and eating a lot.

00:32:51.180 And he texted me every single day that I was fat and it kind of did help, you know,

00:32:55.900 and it comes out of a place for love.

00:32:57.620 You know, he did, I guess, fat shame me a little bit and I lost the weight.

00:33:00.140 And then I think this past year I started putting it back on again.

00:33:03.340 What happened to somebody dying in your family?

00:33:05.040 Like how, what made you think like you put it back on?

00:33:07.380 Like, well, you know, I'm like a stress eater, you know, and I used to, I actually used to

00:33:12.180 be in really good shape.

00:33:13.260 I had a good competition.

00:33:14.520 Y'all would watch that stress eaters.

00:33:16.000 Stress tastes delicious.

00:33:17.360 Yeah.

00:33:17.780 I played football all throughout high school.

00:33:20.360 I actually boxed most of my life and then I broke my shoulder playing football and that

00:33:25.180 kind of limited, I had like multiple surgeries.

00:33:27.400 That kind of limited a lot of what I could do.

00:33:29.380 Oh, wow.

00:33:30.840 And then I don't know if you know anything about boxing, but we had to do a lot of weight

00:33:33.940 cutting.

00:33:34.300 So I was always on diets and food is delicious.

00:33:37.300 Yeah, it is.

00:33:37.900 And I hate having to like lose, you know, when you're cutting weight, you have to lose like

00:33:41.100 15, 20 pounds in a day, you know?

00:33:43.100 You're talking to a model.

00:33:44.360 I'm feeling it.

00:33:44.880 Oh, yeah.

00:33:45.360 So you get it.

00:33:46.240 So after all that, I was like, well, I don't, I'm not going to box anymore.

00:33:48.820 I mean, I used to want to be a professional boxer.

00:33:51.480 And that's just, that completely went out the window.

00:33:54.480 And I was like, well, I'm just going to eat whatever I want to eat.

00:33:56.340 And what about, no, whenever you saw the fat shame video though, or the, I mean, I don't

00:34:00.160 even know if that's appropriate.

00:34:01.180 I mean, I saw that when it went viral, you know, it didn't bother, it didn't bother me

00:34:04.900 in the slightest.

00:34:05.300 Cause one, I understand that it's satire, you know, I totally got that and it helped it.

00:34:11.360 I thought you were funny.

00:34:12.600 Thanks.

00:34:13.080 You know, I think comedy, if you're funny, that trumps a lot of things, you know, like,

00:34:18.440 and then, um, I could see how some people would get offended.

00:34:23.180 It's just, I'm not somewhat, I'm just not going to get offended by that.

00:34:26.460 You have a different experience.

00:34:28.300 And I, you know what I mean?

00:34:29.380 Like I grew up in such a multicultural neighborhood and I was watching the Simpsons and I grew

00:34:33.800 up with an Italian neighborhood, but going to school with Trinis and Jamaicans were my 1.00

00:34:38.180 friends and like Filipinos.

00:34:39.760 And like, we all roasted each other every day and about our ethnicities.

00:34:44.280 Yeah.

00:34:44.540 So I just.

00:34:45.400 Yeah, me too.

00:34:45.820 That's what it was like growing up.

00:34:46.980 Like people didn't care as much.

00:34:48.080 It wasn't, it's crazy.

00:34:49.600 It's like, I don't feel like in a lot of ways that we have gone, uh, I feel like we've

00:34:53.860 gone forward as people.

00:34:55.120 I just feel like electronically, it's like, we're still, we're living in different centuries

00:34:59.320 and we keep bringing those different centuries up into current times.

00:35:02.640 A lot of times.

00:35:03.900 Um, yeah.

00:35:04.740 Because I feel like we're evolving as people.

00:35:06.240 I just feel like on social media, a lot of us aren't evolved or we're, we're just, it's

00:35:10.800 just easier to hate there.

00:35:12.000 It's easier to be angry there.

00:35:14.280 You know what?

00:35:14.760 That's why I turned off some comments, my comments.

00:35:16.560 I turned it off on YouTube on this video and I turned it off on Instagram.

00:35:19.800 The second I saw my cast getting like super harassed and hated on.

00:35:24.620 Yeah.

00:35:24.800 Did they feel bad then?

00:35:25.840 Cause I noticed some of your cast didn't share the video.

00:35:28.060 So they all did it first.

00:35:30.120 And then I was like, yo, fall back.

00:35:32.520 I'll take this heat.

00:35:33.520 Like this was not what we did this for.

00:35:36.160 So fall back.

00:35:37.660 And some of them were like, no, we're putting it out.

00:35:39.780 Send us more clips.

00:35:40.820 And like a bunch of them posted even more after that. 1.00

00:35:43.320 They're like, fuck that. 0.99

00:35:44.620 We know what we did. 1.00

00:35:45.760 We know the intention.

00:35:46.620 You're not doing this by yourself.

00:35:47.640 And I'm like, it's okay.

00:35:48.720 I got this.

00:35:49.480 Was there a difference between like, if like a black girls or white girls or Latino girls 0.98

00:35:53.580 that were, that were more willing to share it?

00:35:55.540 Was there any?

00:35:56.200 No, no.

00:35:57.120 And the producer, the guy that produced the track, Quinn Anthony, badass friend of mine

00:36:01.920 for years now, he did some interviews yesterday.

00:36:04.600 Like I said, he's a black guy and he went to bat and he's a very intelligent, very philosophical

00:36:11.300 kind of man.

00:36:12.460 And he was like, you know, how are you calling appropriation on Nicole?

00:36:16.440 You know, let's say for example, Whitney Houston's number one hit is I Will Always

00:36:20.600 Love You, created by Dolly Parton.

00:36:22.980 So he's like, it's not cultural appropriation.

00:36:26.020 She had a great idea.

00:36:27.080 We went in this vibe.

00:36:28.400 She was appreciating the original.

00:36:29.960 It's a remix.

00:36:31.480 And where's he from?

00:36:32.580 Is he from?

00:36:33.140 He's from here, I believe.

00:36:34.540 Yeah.

00:36:34.660 I think he's an LA native.

00:36:36.280 And yeah, like I had a whole bunch of big music producers hit me up and all black people

00:36:41.180 after and we're like, yo, that was dope.

00:36:42.840 We see what you were going for.

00:36:44.120 The tone of your voice is very Fred Durst.

00:36:46.220 It's cool.

00:36:46.860 There's no girl that sounds like me right now.

00:36:49.020 Yeah.

00:36:49.420 Let's record.

00:36:50.120 Did you feel like, did you feel like the video was so outside of the race thing then,

00:36:54.140 right?

00:36:54.320 Yeah.

00:36:54.540 Outside of that.

00:36:55.180 Cause yeah, I felt like, I was like, this is just seemed like such an easy thing to accuse

00:36:59.160 people of all the time now.

00:37:00.380 And if we can't all just do whatever we want to do.

00:37:04.700 And it's, I feel like we almost can.

00:37:06.160 I feel like most people are kind of doing what they want to do.

00:37:08.480 Yeah.

00:37:08.980 Like when I look around, like most people, it's like, I don't see as much.

00:37:14.080 I mean, there's certain things are certainly not as racist as the environment that I grew

00:37:17.500 up in.

00:37:17.980 I don't hear anything like I used to hear when I was a kid.

00:37:20.560 That's good.

00:37:22.060 Yeah.

00:37:22.760 I mean.

00:37:23.380 And you know what the problem with calling everything racist is that it takes away it from

00:37:28.060 it.

00:37:28.260 You know, like my, when my family first immigrated here, they experienced actual racism, you

00:37:32.800 know, like, and, and to say that you're racist because of that video is the, it's, it's like

00:37:39.400 infuriating.

00:37:40.440 But do you think it was a messages, right?

00:37:42.620 But do you think it was now people could definitely get lost here?

00:37:45.840 I feel like this is a place where I got lost with it.

00:37:48.040 I felt like, where was it comedy or was it trying to make a statement?

00:37:53.620 Um, I don't think there was comedy in it.

00:37:56.020 I think there was biting satire, hence the smiling to the camera while I'm talking about

00:38:01.340 rape.

00:38:01.800 Yeah.

00:38:02.200 You know what I mean?

00:38:02.740 Like, that's my art.

00:38:04.440 That's, that's how I feel about it.

00:38:06.680 I'm not going to cry about it. 1.00

00:38:07.980 I'm going to smile and say, fuck you to the camera while I do a video while a girl's being 1.00

00:38:12.740 carried away by a Mexican man who he had actually gotten the date rape drug. 1.00

00:38:18.540 I think he said three times, three times himself, like there was multiple people in there that

00:38:22.800 had gotten that.

00:38:23.420 So that to me is the way I express myself.

00:38:25.200 Like it's, it's biting and it's satire, but there was no ha ha funniness to any of it.

00:38:29.900 Yeah.

00:38:30.260 Yeah.

00:38:30.940 Do you think then, so I guess like as an entertainer, are you going to be able to get people,

00:38:36.400 do you feel like you still want to be a comedian or do you feel like you are trying to go in

00:38:41.260 a different direction?

00:38:42.040 Cause I feel like it's going to be hard to get people from controversy to comedy.

00:38:46.000 I think you can go from comedy to controversy.

00:38:48.520 Yeah.

00:38:48.680 But I've been doing it like shows all the time, uh, huge tours offered right now and I'm going

00:38:53.420 to be doing them and I'm really excited and I'm, I'm going to Nicole Arbor it.

00:38:57.540 I'm not going to just stand there with a mic and tell jokes cause that's not where I'm

00:39:01.160 at right now.

00:39:02.180 Right.

00:39:02.480 There's going to be a lot of everything.

00:39:04.300 And I think that's some inspiration to me.

00:39:06.040 Even watching the Childish Gambino video, I was like, oh wow.

00:39:08.680 Like this is something that if you're an actor or you're a comedian, you can do this also

00:39:13.340 if you want to, you know, if you feel it.

00:39:16.000 Um, and even watching your video, I was like, oh wow, this is brave.

00:39:19.020 Like this is, you know, she has on tap shoes.

00:39:21.060 Like that's something you can do if you feel it.

00:39:23.340 Yeah.

00:39:23.700 Can I talk about the tap thing real quick?

00:39:25.560 Yeah.

00:39:26.000 Cause there's some serious irony to that tap scene.

00:39:29.620 I always wanted to be a tap dancer.

00:39:31.380 I will teach you.

00:39:32.500 So yeah, I will learn.

00:39:34.060 That would actually be really fun.

00:39:35.620 Um, there's the irony of that part is I was like, you know what?

00:39:38.840 I want to do a nod to cultural appropriation, but I've been taught it since I was a kid.

00:39:45.860 So I realized that tap comes from the minstrel shows, then went to vaudeville.

00:39:50.900 And I know that because one of my like huge inspirations and then teachers was Gregory

00:39:54.760 Hines.

00:39:55.200 Who's like the notorious tap man of the world, black man, for those who don't know. 0.82

00:40:00.420 And growing up as a kid, he didn't say to me, little white girl, you're not allowed to 0.88

00:40:04.480 do this because it's for us.

00:40:05.900 He just made sure I knew the history of it.

00:40:07.900 So growing up, I knew where it came from.

00:40:10.440 I know the music that it started with.

00:40:12.100 Like I fricking love tap.

00:40:13.480 I don't care if it sounds lame.

00:40:14.660 I'm a big fan.

00:40:15.600 Yeah.

00:40:15.720 It's neat.

00:40:16.320 And, uh, super neat.

00:40:17.760 That's why we put that in there.

00:40:19.000 And I'm like, well, here's three white girls that, uh, grew up learning tap and it's not 0.95

00:40:23.120 because we wanted to culturally appropriate or steal.

00:40:25.400 It's because it was taught to us and we love it too.

00:40:27.600 So I threw that in there as a little nod to the cultural appropriation, which looking 0.72

00:40:31.600 back now is fucking ironic. 0.93

00:40:33.520 Yeah. 0.96

00:40:34.780 Well, I mean, if we're all out here, some of the sometimes cultural push, I'm like, this

00:40:37.940 is just, I mean, if you want to look back through the history books, like there's, it's

00:40:42.460 all been, everything's been culturally appropriated somewhere along the lines.

00:40:46.480 All music comes from black people. 0.84

00:40:47.980 Did you know, did you, yeah, thank God it doesn't come from white people originally. 0.99

00:40:51.920 I think that it would have been a lot worse. 0.67

00:40:53.920 I think it would have been, I think it would have been a lot worse.

00:40:55.900 Do you, but you have to know at some point, like this is gonna push some buttons.

00:41:01.700 Buttons.

00:41:02.160 I'm not scared of pushing buttons.

00:41:03.940 I'm not, I'm not.

00:41:05.380 Yeah.

00:41:05.700 Be uncomfortable.

00:41:07.060 Yeah.

00:41:07.240 I, my favorite jokes and the things that I see in the world, like I love George Carlin

00:41:11.660 and he pushed buttons.

00:41:13.160 He did.

00:41:13.700 I love it.

00:41:14.520 Yeah.

00:41:14.700 It's tough.

00:41:15.060 And it was tough.

00:41:15.480 You can't do it that much anymore.

00:41:16.780 But do you think it's like, say you're doing the tab dancing.

00:41:20.340 You don't think like, oh, this is cause there's some, you know, like you don't think, oh,

00:41:24.880 peep, this is going to get a racy.

00:41:27.220 But I love tapping.

00:41:29.140 Yeah.

00:41:29.340 Where is the line?

00:41:30.480 When do I get to live my life?

00:41:32.220 I love rap.

00:41:33.260 I love hip hop.

00:41:34.160 I love tap dancing.

00:41:35.180 I want to mash it all up.

00:41:36.740 I love being super white as well.

00:41:39.560 Yeah.

00:41:39.820 I realize I am mayonnaise. 0.98

00:41:41.140 I will bring goddamn raisins and put it into your potato salad. 1.00

00:41:44.280 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

00:41:45.140 It's delicious. 0.99

00:41:46.200 Yeah.

00:41:46.320 It's like, when can you do it?

00:41:47.640 Yeah.

00:41:48.300 Yeah.

00:41:48.500 It's like, how can you live your life in a world where it is tough to live your life

00:41:53.140 in a world where things are, you know, created by everyone.

00:41:57.000 It's like, you can only use white stuff.

00:41:59.280 I don't even know what that is anymore.

00:42:01.180 Right. 0.96

00:42:01.440 Does that mean no little black girls can be ballerinas? 1.00

00:42:03.840 Cause that's stupid. 1.00

00:42:04.800 Right. 1.00

00:42:05.080 Cause I know where that came from too. 1.00

00:42:06.500 It's, it's dumb. 0.99

00:42:07.420 I just think it's dumb and we all need to like. 0.99

00:42:10.120 Oh, I don't think it's, I don't think any of that kind of stuff is helping us. 0.89

00:42:12.700 I just don't think there's a solution to it. 0.96

00:42:14.340 There's definitely a very stupid double standard to cultural appropriation. 0.98

00:42:18.680 I don't even, honestly, I don't subscribe to that rule. 1.00

00:42:22.260 I think it's the dumbest rule ever. 0.94

00:42:23.680 Or being Mexican, I'm the first person in my family to be born in America. 0.96

00:42:28.620 And I think, I just, I don't understand the negative part about cultural appropriation.

00:42:33.720 I love it when I see black people open up a taco stand.

00:42:37.820 I think that is the best thing ever because they're, they want to share my culture.

00:42:42.460 They want to learn about it.

00:42:43.640 I don't, I don't mind that stuff.

00:42:45.220 And it's, I think also in, you know, Japanese culture is the same thing.

00:42:48.700 They like it when people share their culture.

00:42:51.120 So I don't understand when I see another group of people like say, no, you're not allowed to use my culture.

00:42:58.660 That goes against everything that I was brought up.

00:43:00.980 I feel it.

00:43:01.640 I feel why they do it too, though, because they still feel oppression.

00:43:05.400 It's not the same oppression from 200 years ago, which is another tweet I got in trouble for when they were, I said, I'm sick of people talking about slavery, something along the lines of it's over.

00:43:14.680 Let's focus on the socioeconomic slavery of now, which I'm going to address in my video because it's true. 0.98

00:43:20.580 I know what they feel on that side.

00:43:23.500 So, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's, yeah, it's tough to, it's like.

00:43:28.300 Like, do you want me to tag black girls when I wear braids? 0.84

00:43:30.560 I don't know.

00:43:31.260 Right.

00:43:31.600 But if someone could give me some kind of playbook, that'd be cool.

00:43:34.320 There isn't a real playbook.

00:43:35.260 I mean, a lot of it's so vague and it's based on how, it's based on what articles people want to write in and what, how upset people want to try and get people.

00:43:42.960 And there's a lot of people, tons of people who sit on Twitter, sit on social media and do nothing else to contribute to anything.

00:43:48.700 They're professional victims.

00:43:50.180 Yes.

00:43:50.660 Right.

00:43:50.900 It's a big thing that's going on in America.

00:43:52.320 I agree. 0.97

00:43:52.860 I thought yesterday I was like, man, if all these people that are hitting up my Twitter went out and voted for whatever cause they want, whether it be a, a large presidential thing, a local thing, a municipal thing, well, shit, we could get things changed. 0.97

00:44:09.660 Yeah. 0.89

00:44:09.960 Imagine, imagine they got to turn voting into like online on Twitter, make it like American Idol.

00:44:15.620 Oh, I think we're close.

00:44:16.840 I mean, I think we're really, really close.

00:44:18.220 You know, I think, I mean, everyone says that the rock is like running for president is planning on running for president next time.

00:44:23.660 So I could easily see it being something like that.

00:44:25.800 He would save us all.

00:44:26.640 If there was Kanye too, apparently.

00:44:28.140 Would he Kanye?

00:44:28.900 Yeah.

00:44:29.080 Kanye said that. 0.99

00:44:30.260 Kanye looks crazy. 0.80

00:44:31.280 Last time I saw him though. 0.87

00:44:32.560 I'm ready.

00:44:33.920 Kanye.

00:44:34.740 I'm ready.

00:44:35.220 I guess.

00:44:35.800 Man.

00:44:36.640 Like breakfast club yesterday was making fun of me.

00:44:39.200 Donkey of the day.

00:44:39.820 I'll take it.

00:44:40.360 I think that's a, them talking about me makes me very happy.

00:44:43.580 So, but how do you go from that?

00:44:45.160 So people talking about you, right?

00:44:46.500 But do you think that like the long term of it, do you think it's a viable, like being controversial?

00:44:53.460 It's.

00:44:54.260 But that's not the goal.

00:44:55.480 Right. 1.00

00:44:55.960 The goal is like, the goal is real shit. 1.00

00:44:58.960 Right. 1.00

00:44:59.360 There's so much watered down bullshit. 1.00

00:45:01.320 I can stand. 1.00

00:45:01.780 I agree. 1.00

00:45:02.460 There's a lot of watered down bullshit. 0.99

00:45:03.780 I can make jokes like about anything and keep them within the realm of safe and get laughs. 0.99

00:45:10.240 My soul doesn't like it.

00:45:11.900 I did it for years.

00:45:12.820 Like, I don't think that I was in a car accident and spent years in bed to come back to not live what I think is going to be what I'm here for.

00:45:20.500 So I know it sounds a little bit Kanye-ish, but I have to do what I know to be right and fix what I think is wrong.

00:45:27.740 That's your perspective.

00:45:28.660 And I think.

00:45:29.680 I'll do it.

00:45:30.380 Yeah.

00:45:30.540 I'm not worried.

00:45:31.380 I'm honestly like, I'm just not worried.

00:45:33.660 Yeah.

00:45:34.000 About it.

00:45:34.620 Yeah.

00:45:34.780 Because people see who I am.

00:45:36.380 Yeah.

00:45:36.680 People that are actually following.

00:45:37.800 Right.

00:45:38.340 Yeah.

00:45:39.360 And so do you feel like this new, this next video that you have, you already mentioned

00:45:44.380 as race and as some type of racial element?

00:45:46.500 Yes.

00:45:46.800 And I'm doing a round table with all people of color and all these people kept saying, you

00:45:52.140 don't know.

00:45:52.720 You don't know.

00:45:53.260 You need to listen.

00:45:54.400 Yeah.

00:45:54.540 People say that a lot of times to me too.

00:45:56.400 And it's like, why does someone understand sometimes?

00:45:58.120 Yeah.

00:45:58.320 Like, I don't know.

00:45:59.260 Yeah.

00:45:59.460 There's some things I don't know for sure.

00:46:01.500 So I'm saying, come talk to me.

00:46:02.840 I'm setting up a round table.

00:46:04.180 Yeah.

00:46:04.440 It's going to be me.

00:46:05.020 And I'm going to sit there. 1.00

00:46:05.840 I'm going to talk about shit. 1.00

00:46:07.220 Right. 1.00

00:46:07.360 And I'm going to tape it.

00:46:08.280 And we're going to put it on the internet.

00:46:09.600 Yeah.

00:46:09.960 Cool.

00:46:10.340 You want to talk?

00:46:10.940 Let's talk.

00:46:12.300 Yeah.

00:46:12.660 Sometimes the best conversations, the realest conversations are had off screen.

00:46:17.480 That's the craziest part.

00:46:18.540 True.

00:46:19.340 You know?

00:46:19.840 True.

00:46:20.780 Because that's the only safe place to have conversations now is when there's no cameras

00:46:24.500 rolling, when you can just speak your mind.

00:46:26.280 Yeah.

00:46:26.700 When is that?

00:46:27.800 Yeah.

00:46:28.000 Yeah.

00:46:28.900 When is that?

00:46:29.420 I'm not a baller like you guys.

00:46:30.840 No one really follows me around.

00:46:32.700 I'm going to get Olivia to follow you after.

00:46:34.200 But it is, you know, it is, it is interesting how, you know, it's like, you know, do you

00:46:41.620 think sometimes there's just been such a way for so long that, you know, maybe black 0.99

00:46:45.460 people feel, I mean, you can understand black people's perspective though on when they,

00:46:48.840 when, when people were upset with you, if you, if there were black followers or black

00:46:52.280 people on social media, some of them, I mean, obviously there's a lot of Muppets out

00:46:55.300 there. 0.98

00:46:55.480 I don't care if they're black or white or fucking blue who just follow the, who have never 1.00

00:46:59.440 had a, they can't breathe. 1.00

00:47:00.500 Yes. 1.00

00:47:01.100 We're just a bunch of fucking goldfish no matter what they just, you know, they're 1.00

00:47:04.380 just swimming in their bowl. 1.00

00:47:05.640 That's it.

00:47:06.180 Yeah.

00:47:07.180 But do you feel like, could you understand some people's angst?

00:47:11.120 From the video, I think it's really misdirected, really misdirected if they take a second to

00:47:16.780 think about it.

00:47:18.080 I don't think like a remix video should be met with the same fire as someone who has shot

00:47:24.640 a kid.

00:47:25.500 Yeah. 0.96

00:47:25.640 Like, and that's what came at me, which is, I think it's ridiculous.

00:47:29.300 The tweets that were taken out of context, a hundred percent, a hundred percent see how

00:47:34.420 that could hurt feelings, ruffle feathers.

00:47:36.780 Totally.

00:47:37.580 Uh, if people don't like my music, that's fine.

00:47:39.900 People don't like my work. 0.97

00:47:40.760 I don't give a shit. 0.98

00:47:41.420 Yeah. 0.99

00:47:41.620 Like, cool.

00:47:42.520 That's opinion.

00:47:43.200 Yeah.

00:47:43.460 But, uh, the other stuff.

00:47:44.520 Yeah.

00:47:44.800 But that's not the goal.

00:47:45.760 So we'll fix that.

00:47:46.900 Yeah.

00:47:47.080 And I ain't scared.

00:47:48.180 I'm not scared.

00:47:49.240 Yeah.

00:47:49.440 You're fee.

00:47:49.860 I mean, you're definitely fearless.

00:47:50.840 Look, it's brave, you know?

00:47:52.320 Thanks.

00:47:52.600 That's what I thought.

00:47:53.460 I think of people like Eminem too.

00:47:54.200 Like, not that, not to compare myself to him, but imagine what he went through just

00:47:58.880 because he loves the art of rap and hip hop as like the sole white person that was really

00:48:03.940 pushing through all that, what he's been called, what he was like, and that was in real

00:48:08.380 life too.

00:48:09.000 And people would beat him up for coming to a show.

00:48:11.140 Like, yeah, that's crazy. 0.98

00:48:12.640 If I look at people who've done like way bigger shit than me and I'm like, okay, if they can 0.98

00:48:16.020 do that, I can be brave. 0.97

00:48:17.840 Yeah.

00:48:18.020 I can just put on my Wonder Woman suit and walk through the fire.

00:48:21.240 Look, I mean, it's, it's, uh, it was definitely, it was definitely brave, you know, it was

00:48:26.040 super brave.

00:48:27.100 Thanks.

00:48:27.400 It was probably the bravest thing.

00:48:28.180 Yeah.

00:48:28.360 I mean, it's like, here's a, you know, do you feel like it landed where you wanted it

00:48:33.460 to or do you feel like it was off some?

00:48:34.900 I feel like it landed where it had to.

00:48:36.620 Yeah.

00:48:36.880 Uh, like I'm a, I'm a big, everything's happening for a reason kind of person.

00:48:40.400 And then you see where it is and then you learn from that, you adjust the dial and then

00:48:44.500 you keep going.

00:48:45.320 Yeah.

00:48:45.680 And, uh, yeah, because I know who I am and I know the goal is never to just hurt people

00:48:49.800 for the sake of hurting people. 0.95

00:48:50.940 Cause what the fuck's the point of that? 0.98

00:48:53.160 Uh, yeah, I think there's always room for me to learn and adjust and tweak things, but 0.98

00:48:58.120 I was really, uh, I felt pretty good. 0.99

00:48:59.900 Cause like my whole team stood behind me even when I was like, no, get the fuck back. 0.99

00:49:03.240 Let me take this heat. 0.97

00:49:04.360 Right.

00:49:04.620 They were like, no, we're with you.

00:49:06.600 I'm like, Oh wow.

00:49:08.400 That's cool.

00:49:09.540 Thanks guys.

00:49:09.900 Do you feel like there's like that you can get that with that much like people like having,

00:49:15.820 do you feel like the media treated you fairly kind of?

00:49:18.040 Yeah.

00:49:18.640 You do.

00:49:19.680 Because, well, it's the media.

00:49:21.400 That's cool.

00:49:21.980 You know how people.

00:49:22.720 Yeah.

00:49:22.880 I'm not a big fan a lot of times.

00:49:24.220 They get clicks by a sensational headline.

00:49:26.960 Right.

00:49:27.300 That is their job.

00:49:28.780 So I literally feel like this is the most fair I've been treated.

00:49:32.340 We'll see.

00:49:32.840 We can see what Yahoo said after, because it was a really fair conversation.

00:49:37.540 So we'll see what they report after, but I've had people completely twist my words or full

00:49:41.340 on makeup things in the past.

00:49:42.720 That didn't happen this time. 1.00

00:49:44.080 If the black press want to say, I suck. 1.00

00:49:46.400 I'm whitewashed. 1.00

00:49:47.500 I am.

00:49:48.380 I am so white.

00:49:49.960 I am the whitest of the white.

00:49:51.260 No, you're not shocking me by calling me mayonnaise.

00:49:54.280 That's fine.

00:49:55.140 Say that.

00:49:55.620 That's cool.

00:49:56.140 Yeah.

00:49:56.380 But I think people, I think Perez, I think a couple others were super fair.

00:49:59.900 I think the political websites that actually broke down the frames of my video with his

00:50:04.920 and they caught what I was doing.

00:50:06.580 I was like, that's cool.

00:50:07.560 Like after today, I probably won't ever want to talk about this video.

00:50:10.320 Right.

00:50:10.780 Yeah.

00:50:11.140 No, I know.

00:50:11.660 It's fast.

00:50:12.200 It's like things come and go quick.

00:50:13.660 You know?

00:50:13.800 Yeah.

00:50:14.020 Um, the next, this next video you have coming up, what is this about?

00:50:17.920 Um, I don't know what I'm going to title it yet, but it's definitely about fixing racism.

00:50:22.440 It's like white girl's going to fix racism in under five minutes. 1.00

00:50:25.660 Wow.

00:50:25.980 I have a big idea and I think that's what everything's about.

00:50:30.040 Like I have a bunch of like Ted talk kind of stuff's coming up to you and I've done talks

00:50:33.740 like that in the past and I fucking love it. 0.70

00:50:35.840 I love being able to flex my intellectual muscles and then go back to comedy and then go dance 0.96

00:50:41.160 and like do all that stuff.

00:50:42.540 So there's going to be a little bit of that in there tomorrow.

00:50:45.020 It's going to be comedy mixed with a bit of my preaching and then, uh, yeah.

00:50:49.240 So just vintage Nicole Arbor.

00:50:51.640 Holla.

00:50:52.260 Yeah.

00:50:54.800 You were scared.

00:50:56.240 Do you remember that guy?

00:50:57.820 That was on the internet.

00:50:59.020 Do you remember that guy, Brian?

00:51:00.720 No, he seems fun though.

00:51:02.720 He was on Twitter for a while.

00:51:04.040 I know who you're talking about.

00:51:04.700 He was on, uh, no, he was on Instagram for a while and he always had like these abs and 0.94

00:51:08.100 he was on drugs, but he was like, damn, he was like, but is he single? 0.87

00:51:13.320 Uh, he is definitely single. 0.98

00:51:15.380 He got tattoos of like doves or something on his neck. 1.00

00:51:18.140 Damn. 0.99

00:51:18.680 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:19.260 When they cry.

00:51:20.220 Um, he was big on vine.

00:51:21.640 I remember now I'm trying to, cause he did a, he was like holding the gun.

00:51:25.520 Yeah.

00:51:25.840 That's all he did.

00:51:26.580 And then it just went crazy.

00:51:27.900 Like the way he did it.

00:51:29.120 I'm trying to remember his name, but I know, I know exactly what you're talking about now.

00:51:32.380 Cause he had like kind of like long hair a little bit.

00:51:34.700 And then he would, he was like holding the gun.

00:51:37.260 Yeah.

00:51:37.480 That's fun.

00:51:38.140 Yeah.

00:51:38.560 Um, yeah.

00:51:38.980 The titties tool line I thought was really good.

00:51:41.420 Oh, thanks. 0.95

00:51:42.120 You know, these are my titties. 0.91

00:51:43.360 That is my tool. 0.97

00:51:44.100 Yeah.

00:51:44.540 Thanks.

00:51:45.020 I'm being challenged.

00:51:45.460 That is my tool is your brain, right?

00:51:47.100 Yes.

00:51:47.900 And it's, it's so God, like, I know this is your comedy podcast, but it's just so interesting.

00:51:52.220 No, it's okay.

00:51:52.700 We don't, sometimes it's not a comedy on here.

00:51:54.400 Oh, okay.

00:51:55.060 Yeah.

00:51:55.220 I was feeling bad for a second.

00:51:56.120 We talk about a lot of real stuff on this show.

00:51:57.640 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:58.900 No, sometimes it's like, usually like the Monday episodes, more comedy.

00:52:01.660 And if we have a guest and it's just like about just life, you know, or just like about

00:52:05.460 what's going on or like, what makes you, you know, what makes us feel like we feel or

00:52:11.060 do, um, what do you think?

00:52:13.620 Do you think there's something in your past that makes you okay or comfortable, like in

00:52:16.620 the, like having even controversy in your world?

00:52:18.700 Cause a lot of people don't want that at all, you know?

00:52:21.320 Yes.

00:52:22.320 And well, I've been like this since I was a kid.

00:52:24.180 I was always in trouble cause I would ask questions.

00:52:26.340 I got kicked out of class at private Catholic school so many times because I would stand up

00:52:31.460 to the teachers when they would say something I didn't agree with.

00:52:33.620 So they told me gay is wrong.

00:52:35.900 It is in the Bible that it is wrong. 0.97

00:52:37.820 It is a sin.

00:52:38.660 And I was sitting beside my gay friend and I could feel him dying on the inside.

00:52:42.340 And I was just like, no, it's not.

00:52:44.660 I was like, nope.

00:52:45.640 I'm like, there are examples of being gay in the Bible.

00:52:48.420 I don't think it's wrong.

00:52:49.420 Plus if you think it's wrong, Jesus would forgive you anyway.

00:52:52.660 So ha, we're good.

00:52:54.140 And then they kicked me out of class.

00:52:56.000 And then I did my ISU, which takes you an entire semester to do on all the ways I found

00:53:02.760 people being gay in the Bible and all the examples.

00:53:05.460 Oh yeah. 0.91

00:53:05.780 There's a lot of gay activity everywhere. 0.63

00:53:07.880 They wouldn't even read it. 0.70

00:53:08.640 Especially alongside the interstate.

00:53:11.420 And that's true.

00:53:12.400 That's fine.

00:53:13.300 I remember when I was in high school, they had a man I met.

00:53:16.760 I was a bus boy and he was a bus man.

00:53:19.800 He should have been a waiter by then, but he was still busing.

00:53:23.760 And this gentleman was a buddy of mine, you know, and he was, you know, a homoerotic man. 0.98

00:53:27.700 And he, um, and we became friends.

00:53:30.080 We used to use steroids together. 0.97

00:53:31.200 We'd pull off the side of the interstate and shoot steroids in each other's buttockses. 1.00

00:53:35.060 That sounds right. 0.99

00:53:35.940 And, um, yeah.

00:53:37.400 And it was, I mean, it wasn't like, I mean, that was my, uh, broke top.

00:53:42.540 What's the broke top mountain?

00:53:43.760 Brokeback mountain.

00:53:44.320 Brokeback mountain.

00:53:45.100 That was my broke back mountain was me and this Italian dude, uh, just gunning steroids 1.00

00:53:50.580 into each other's butt cheeks as chill, you know, as well, I was a bus boy. 0.98

00:53:53.920 He was a bus man, but, um, yeah, that was probably a, so yeah, anyway, crazy shit happens 0.99

00:53:59.840 off the interstate. 0.98

00:54:00.520 What were we talking about?

00:54:01.060 What were you talking about?

00:54:01.420 I don't know, but that was a great story.

00:54:03.080 So I don't even care.

00:54:04.220 Yeah.

00:54:04.340 And he died actually shut out, uh, Billy Conforto.

00:54:06.820 He died.

00:54:07.200 He was on pills and he drove into an embankment.

00:54:09.400 Oh my goodness.

00:54:10.200 Yeah.

00:54:10.460 I've lost three friends to embankments, dude.

00:54:12.420 Whoa.

00:54:12.940 That's crazy.

00:54:13.700 We should start a fund.

00:54:15.120 Yeah.

00:54:15.560 Against him.

00:54:15.980 Yeah.

00:54:16.140 There should be something.

00:54:17.460 Um, we were talking about, I've just always kind of been a rebel like that.

00:54:22.180 But I also, yeah, do you feel that need to, to like, I feel the need to do what's right

00:54:27.120 all the time.

00:54:28.200 Like, but do you, do you always trust your idea of like, do you have a, do you feel like

00:54:33.020 you have a solid scope of what's right?

00:54:34.700 Yeah, I do.

00:54:35.920 And when I, when it's not right and I do it anyway, it never works out well.

00:54:40.500 Oh yeah.

00:54:40.840 Yeah.

00:54:41.180 When I force something, when I don't go with my gut, all of it, like, yeah.

00:54:45.640 And then being, for me, being in a car accident and like not being in the world really for

00:54:50.600 so many years, uh, I've done a talk on this for people who might've seen it.

00:54:54.460 I literally made like a deal with God.

00:54:56.640 I don't know who you believe in, but, uh.

00:54:58.500 I believe in the Lord.

00:54:59.580 Okay.

00:54:59.980 Well, that guy, I was like, yo, if you let me come back, I promise that I'll bring as 0.98

00:55:04.480 many people with me as I can and like be real and like do my shit for real this time, 0.98

00:55:08.640 not just pose and be pretty and be a model and stay in the little box of, Hey, cute white 1.00

00:55:14.260 girl, this is what you're supposed to do with your life, which I was doing before.

00:55:17.940 So I was like, no, I'm coming back and I'll do what I think's right.

00:55:21.520 And, uh, yeah, that's why I talk about drugs in one video.

00:55:24.700 That one, it's super viral.

00:55:26.220 I know that America, North America is very overdrugged.

00:55:29.700 Yeah.

00:55:30.140 Experienced it myself when I could have gotten real treatment.

00:55:32.700 I was just given pills. 0.99

00:55:34.080 Like, I, I just kind of feel like I see different perspectives on shit. 0.95

00:55:38.400 And when we express those, we can help people. 0.95

00:55:42.040 Well, yeah.

00:55:42.640 I mean, I look, I think it's always good to have different.

00:55:44.240 Different perspectives and, um, yeah, I mean, I appreciate you coming here and thinking

00:55:47.640 about, you know, some of this stuff with us and, you know, sharing kind of, you know,

00:55:51.000 breaking down a little bit.

00:55:51.940 Cause yeah, there's just a lot of heat out there.

00:55:53.500 You know, there's a lot of heat about, you know, uh, just about the video and just what

00:55:59.060 people thought.

00:55:59.600 You know, I want to say this too.

00:56:01.620 Uh, I think this will be in some articles, but for people listening, uh, that are like,

00:56:05.660 Oh, you stole this from him and you're, you're using it for, what am I using it for?

00:56:10.680 He gets the money from it.

00:56:12.080 Like it was an instant, uh, label deal instantly and they get money, like a remix, they get

00:56:19.100 the money from it.

00:56:20.040 Yeah.

00:56:20.120 So it is making money on the YouTube side, but that goes to him.

00:56:23.520 Right.

00:56:24.180 Rightfully so.

00:56:25.000 We said that in advance.

00:56:26.080 Someone was like, Oh, well, what are the song splits on this?

00:56:28.120 I'm like, this goes to the church of Gambino.

00:56:30.660 Right.

00:56:30.920 Like this is a donation.

00:56:32.380 Yeah.

00:56:32.860 And yeah, it was just, it was just a piece of art being expressed and that's it.

00:56:36.940 So there was no like thievery intended or I'm going to steal his views.

00:56:40.580 It's like, how you're giving me way too much credit.

00:56:43.080 How am I going to steal any, anything from that?

00:56:45.840 I, I'm surprised any shine came this way from that.

00:56:49.160 Yeah.

00:56:49.580 Yeah.

00:56:50.220 Do you feel like it's, um, that being not even from America, like originally from Canada,

00:56:56.180 that people give you an even tougher time to come to America and then like discuss like,

00:57:00.940 you know, or comment on what's going on in America, not that you're not allowed to whatever,

00:57:04.280 but do you get any kickback from that?

00:57:06.200 Sometimes.

00:57:06.560 That's why I put the line in there.

00:57:07.820 Like we'll say North America.

00:57:09.200 Okay.

00:57:09.660 Yeah.

00:57:10.260 I see.

00:57:10.980 Yeah.

00:57:11.140 I was wondering about that.

00:57:12.100 I feel like it's similar.

00:57:12.920 There's a lot of similarities, but there's definitely the race tension.

00:57:17.300 The racial tension is so much larger in America.

00:57:19.860 It is larger here.

00:57:20.800 That's why I want to have the round table and sit down.

00:57:22.720 It's like, you don't know.

00:57:23.520 You don't know.

00:57:24.020 Okay.

00:57:24.260 Teach me like now what?

00:57:26.240 Like teach me.

00:57:27.140 I would love to learn.

00:57:28.480 Cause I'm pretty good at finding solutions.

00:57:31.940 Well, I find a lot of black friends.

00:57:33.520 Like I, if I have black friends from other countries that are not from America, um, they have a,

00:57:38.580 they don't have as tough a time in America.

00:57:40.200 Um, you know, like my black friends that are from Jamaica or black friends that are from

00:57:44.580 England.

00:57:45.060 I love Jamaicans.

00:57:45.800 Um, so yeah, I don't know.

00:57:47.780 I mean, there's the look, there's a ton of, you know, there's a ton of, there's always

00:57:50.640 conversation we had.

00:57:51.440 It's always good to hear different people's, different people's perspectives.

00:57:54.420 Chris, do we have a couple of calls that came in for Nicole?

00:57:56.440 Yeah.

00:57:56.960 Um, we got a couple, let's pull some up right now.

00:58:00.020 I really like your shoes.

00:58:01.580 You do?

00:58:02.060 Are those Toms?

00:58:03.380 Yeah.

00:58:04.000 Yeah.

00:58:04.480 And Toms, they say they buy, um, a pair for you, a pair for somebody else.

00:58:09.180 Yeah.

00:58:09.400 For somebody else.

00:58:09.760 But I've never met that person or know anything like that.

00:58:12.020 They should put a thing in it so you know if that's real.

00:58:13.840 I want the photo.

00:58:14.880 I want, I want to like see it.

00:58:16.720 Sorry.

00:58:17.120 You're doing your producing job.

00:58:19.000 All right.

00:58:19.480 So this first call is from Orphan.

00:58:22.440 Orphan.

00:58:24.620 What up?

00:58:25.140 What's up?

00:58:25.660 The O'Bone calling from Chicago. 0.93

00:58:28.680 Name's Orphan.

00:58:29.640 What's up, Orphan?

00:58:30.360 Um, just want to say what's up and blesses to all of you out there listening.

00:58:35.180 Aw.

00:58:35.820 Dang. 0.99

00:58:36.200 On the Nicole Arbor thing, I love the fact that she came out and blasted all fat people. 1.00

00:58:43.220 Cause I myself was fat at one point and got the courage to lose all the weight and, you

00:58:49.420 know.

00:58:49.500 Yeah.

00:58:50.460 And yeah, there's no need for anyone to be big, guys. 0.82

00:58:54.060 We need to get off our asses and motivate ourselves a little more. 0.91

00:58:59.000 Well, um. 0.99

00:59:00.180 Yeah.

00:59:01.020 Nicole says, yeah, you know that.

00:59:02.300 That makes me so happy.

00:59:03.060 Because she made the video.

00:59:04.120 I know that, like, I mean, I see a lot of people, you know, I struggle with addiction.

00:59:07.980 I know a lot of people that, you know, for some people it's an addiction.

00:59:11.200 You know, some people are addicted to snacks.

00:59:14.440 Addicted to, you know, having bugles, having, you know, pies, pieces of pie, leftovers, other

00:59:21.940 people's leftovers.

00:59:23.220 I didn't know that was something.

00:59:24.480 Yeah.

00:59:24.840 My buddy said.

00:59:25.880 You're like pie.

00:59:26.200 I'm like 3.14 repeating.

00:59:27.560 What?

00:59:28.040 No.

00:59:28.260 People like having real snacks, late night snacks, mid-morning, daytime, afternoon, night

00:59:34.120 night time.

00:59:34.760 I used to date a girl. 0.98

00:59:35.820 She would wake up in the middle of the night and put a bunch of jelly beans and chocolate

00:59:39.760 chips in her mouth.

00:59:40.760 Yum.

00:59:41.360 At the same time.

00:59:42.160 But bad.

00:59:42.960 Yeah.

00:59:43.620 So anyway, I know it's an addiction.

00:59:45.180 A lot of people have to.

00:59:46.220 Do you feel like sometimes you're, or this is what I, this is, that it's just, it's more,

00:59:51.880 it's just kind of a surfacy level.

00:59:53.060 It's not going to, like, do you feel like it can't help because there's just so many more

00:59:57.880 little, like, there's more to some of these problems?

01:00:01.840 No, it does help.

01:00:02.980 Right.

01:00:03.160 I am a catalyst and I know it to be true.

01:00:06.040 And I have millions of, literally millions, 700 million people have watched my videos in

01:00:10.820 the last two years.

01:00:11.720 Yeah.

01:00:12.040 And millions of people have reached out and been like, that thing you said that time changed

01:00:16.100 my life.

01:00:16.540 And I'm like, what?

01:00:17.540 Win.

01:00:18.080 Yeah.

01:00:18.400 So like, you know, I catch some heat sometimes.

01:00:20.140 I don't care because I turned around and go, wow, I helped all those people's lives.

01:00:23.960 These people were in chronic pain.

01:00:25.260 They're getting better treatment.

01:00:26.840 These people over here, they're not on those unnecessary drugs.

01:00:30.060 These ones, they're getting along.

01:00:31.360 This relationship is better. 0.99

01:00:32.480 I'm fucking winning. 0.99

01:00:33.740 Right. 0.98

01:00:34.020 Yeah.

01:00:35.460 Yeah, I guess.

01:00:36.240 Well, I mean, I'm a cheerleader, like, for real.

01:00:38.240 That's a good point.

01:00:39.280 I mean, there's so many ways to reach people.

01:00:41.520 And if, you know, yeah, I mean, it's like, who knows how people can be reached, right?

01:00:46.420 Like, some people may need, you know, hand-holding and some people may need, you know, something

01:00:53.120 real fancy. 0.98

01:00:53.880 And then some people may just, you know, they may just need to see somebody just shoot them

01:00:57.820 straight in a video.

01:00:58.940 And that's what I mean.

01:00:59.840 There's no universal answer.

01:01:01.560 No.

01:01:02.100 Yeah.

01:01:02.700 And then I'm sure that, like you said, it's helped a lot of people.

01:01:05.260 But I could also see how some people would be like, oh, that's not for me.

01:01:08.900 Yeah.

01:01:09.120 But that's the difference of, let's say we're hurt because we're all hurt, right?

01:01:12.180 Yeah.

01:01:12.480 And all my videos stem from like, okay, I see a problem.

01:01:14.920 Let's fix it.

01:01:15.840 So, if I'm hurt, you might need physio for the same thing that I need a painkiller for,

01:01:20.740 the same thing that you just need to go for a walk until your muscles are better.

01:01:24.140 Right.

01:01:24.460 So, I just think it's different pills for different people.

01:01:27.500 Right.

01:01:27.660 And I think, I mean, if it helps one person.

01:01:30.240 When?

01:01:30.660 Then why should we not do that thing?

01:01:32.320 Yeah.

01:01:32.700 When?

01:01:32.900 You know?

01:01:33.440 Well, we definitely live in a place where it's like, yeah, we want to find things that offend

01:01:36.480 us.

01:01:36.920 You know, we want to be offended.

01:01:38.040 There's a lot of people out there that wake up every day and want to.

01:01:41.000 Professional offense.

01:01:42.180 Yeah.

01:01:42.500 It's gotten out of hand sometimes, I think.

01:01:45.540 We got one more call if you guys can go to it.

01:01:47.440 Okay.

01:01:47.460 Yep.

01:01:47.660 Let's go to it.

01:01:47.920 I love calls.

01:01:48.900 Okay.

01:01:49.840 And this next call is from Scuba Steve.

01:01:53.520 Scuba Steve?

01:01:55.180 I can't be a real man.

01:01:55.940 That sounds familiar.

01:01:57.060 Yeah.

01:01:57.600 This is Scuba Steve down here in Houston, Texas.

01:02:01.020 And I had a question for Nicole Arbor.

01:02:05.020 I wanted to know if she could tell us more about her depression and then also about the myths

01:02:14.500 and legends of the Hollywood casting couch.

01:02:17.500 I understand that they also have a casting recliner and casting love seat.

01:02:23.720 Oh, Lord.

01:02:24.460 If she could be so kind.

01:02:25.560 Who is that?

01:02:26.300 Indulge us with some more details on that.

01:02:29.660 Scuba Steve.

01:02:30.720 Yeah.

01:02:31.440 Yeah.

01:02:32.100 Who is Scuba Steve?

01:02:32.900 I have no idea.

01:02:33.740 Adam Sandler movie with a little kid.

01:02:36.240 Oh, yeah.

01:02:36.520 The doll.

01:02:37.200 That's right.

01:02:38.080 Thoughts on that, Nicole?

01:02:39.560 Well, depression.

01:02:41.320 Yes.

01:02:41.940 Very large parts.

01:02:43.400 Really came out when after the car accident and it came to fruition through that stuff.

01:02:49.800 That's what it was stemmed from.

01:02:50.920 But obviously, depression is a multi-layered beast.

01:02:54.240 And I made a video on how to defeat and treat depression, which also went psycho-viral.

01:02:59.620 People thought it was very controversial as well because I told people you can get better.

01:03:03.600 And a lot of times people don't want to hear that.

01:03:05.620 And I do believe everybody can get better.

01:03:08.840 That's a good point.

01:03:08.900 That can be true.

01:03:09.460 Yeah.

01:03:09.620 I mean, look, yeah, it's kind of almost like shock therapy a little bit, some of which

01:03:13.280 you do.

01:03:13.620 Do you feel like that?

01:03:14.560 Yeah, definitely.

01:03:15.480 But when it comes to depression, Mr. Scuba Steve, if that's your real name, it's probably

01:03:20.020 not.

01:03:21.000 No, it didn't seem like it was real, man.

01:03:22.780 I mean, it seemed like a real man, but.

01:03:25.500 Yeah, I'm a little skeptical if he's the actual Scuba Steve.

01:03:28.820 It'd be cool if he was.

01:03:30.060 Yeah.

01:03:30.600 I gave people like three steps.

01:03:32.300 And I really think that our mindset is so important.

01:03:35.160 Like our mind is like the strongest tool we have.

01:03:37.800 So if you believe that you're not going to get better, you will not.

01:03:40.360 And I guarantee you.

01:03:41.700 And the difference between me and a bunch of people that were being treated at these

01:03:44.800 crazy chronic pain clinics at the same time is the main doctor said to me, do you

01:03:48.720 think you will get better?

01:03:49.720 Do you believe that I can help you with this?

01:03:51.440 Because if you don't leave, he's like, you won't.

01:03:54.380 He's like, you are already working against all these odds.

01:03:57.060 And I switched my mindset, put sticky notes all over my whole house that said, you're

01:04:01.360 getting better every day.

01:04:02.460 You can do this.

01:04:03.460 You look great.

01:04:04.180 You're awesome. 0.98

01:04:05.020 Like everywhere I could look, stopped watching negative shit, only watch positivity. 0.94

01:04:09.780 I do three sermons a day that I listen to online or whatever. 0.99

01:04:13.200 I listen to motivational shit every morning. 0.96

01:04:15.560 And when you start actually like dealing with your real stuff, then you can get better. 0.99

01:04:20.180 You got to be real to defeat depression.

01:04:21.800 You can't just take a pill and expect that you're better.

01:04:24.440 Yeah.

01:04:24.880 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:25.100 You got to deal with the real shit. 1.00

01:04:26.040 Could you understand how if somebody saw one of your videos and they, it did not work 1.00

01:04:31.940 for them, you could understand how they would be upset.

01:04:33.740 I mean, you could understand how people would look at a video and be like, oh, that's, you

01:04:37.720 know, you know, that's mean or something that you could understand it.

01:04:42.300 I can understand it. 0.99

01:04:43.260 But that video in particular, I give it a hundred percent Nicole Arbor seal and fuck 1.00

01:04:47.060 yeah. 0.99

01:04:47.680 Wow.

01:04:47.940 You, you come back to me after you try the things I told you and tell me they didn't 1.00

01:04:51.660 work and I'll tell you you're full of shit. 1.00

01:04:53.060 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:53.260 Like I firmly believe that you can defeat depression.

01:04:56.760 I think everybody can defeat depression or at least treat it to where you have a way better

01:05:00.340 life. 0.97

01:05:01.140 And yeah, that's again, like, and that's a funny video and people are like, oh shit, that's 0.98

01:05:06.000 funny. 0.96

01:05:06.280 And I'm like, yeah, but I gave you the lesson.

01:05:09.140 Ding.

01:05:09.860 Yes.

01:05:11.360 Yeah.

01:05:11.740 Look, there's a lot.

01:05:12.540 I mean, some people don't want to hear things, you know, and there's a lot of stuff on the internet

01:05:16.160 that people, I mean, that's one thing about the end.

01:05:17.940 It's like, it's full of stuff that people want to hear and stuff that they don't want

01:05:20.780 to hear.

01:05:21.440 Yeah.

01:05:21.760 It's interesting, huh?

01:05:22.660 Yeah.

01:05:22.820 It's interesting.

01:05:23.440 It's fun watching people react.

01:05:24.680 I think.

01:05:25.180 Yeah.

01:05:25.500 Like, I think I'm a social scientist.

01:05:28.480 Yeah.

01:05:28.820 That's what I am to me.

01:05:29.780 I'm like, yeah, I'm a funny social scientist.

01:05:32.080 But do you feel like you, like, does that get addictive in the way you're going to have

01:05:35.060 to up the ante?

01:05:35.780 Like if you have the next video is about how to cure racism, it sounds like, I just don't

01:05:40.740 know if it's going to go over well.

01:05:42.200 You know?

01:05:42.740 That's okay.

01:05:44.080 I think the ideas have to go out there.

01:05:47.200 Yeah.

01:05:47.340 These ideas are real concepts, real thoughts, and they need to be out there.

01:05:52.640 And I, if I thought them and they shouldn't be out there, then I probably wouldn't be

01:05:55.720 inspired to do it.

01:05:56.900 Because just looking at my history, it's like all of the times that I say the thing that

01:06:00.880 I'm really, I really feel a lot of people get helped by it, whether I have to stand

01:06:05.280 in fire or not.

01:06:06.040 So, I got to do what I got to do.

01:06:08.320 Yeah.

01:06:08.660 Well, I mean, I guess it's brave.

01:06:09.960 I mean, if we still, yeah, if we're here and we don't say or try and, if we don't share

01:06:16.420 what we believe we're supposed to share.

01:06:19.040 Yeah.

01:06:19.420 Then, yeah. 0.93

01:06:19.960 I mean, that would feel fucked up, you know? 0.97

01:06:22.800 Seriously. 0.91

01:06:23.160 I just hope, I just hope you're on a good try.

01:06:24.840 I mean, I, you know, I hope that the long-term picture is, is, um, is good, you know?

01:06:30.580 I'm, I know it is.

01:06:31.980 Yeah.

01:06:32.160 I just, like, I don't believe that I could come into, like, I've done this so many times.

01:06:39.020 It's like, what am I at?

01:06:40.840 I'm over 55 super viral videos now.

01:06:43.180 Wow. 0.99

01:06:43.600 At the first one, people were like, yeah, it's a fluke, blonde chick, shut up. 1.00

01:06:46.460 Second one, yeah, okay, she couldn't do it again. 0.99

01:06:48.740 Fourth one was Dear Fat People.

01:06:50.760 Five, six, seven, eight, I'm still going in.

01:06:53.580 I had, like, 12 in the first few months, and then people were like, oh, it's still a fluke. 1.00

01:06:57.920 Now I'm like, okay, fuck you, it's not a fluke. 1.00

01:06:59.900 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:00.100 I just, like, I, I have a message behind what I'm doing.

01:07:03.900 I have a list of societal issues at my house on my whiteboard, and I, I'm just going to

01:07:08.520 cross them off.

01:07:09.420 Here comes the next video.

01:07:10.880 Hope you get something from it.

01:07:12.040 And what gives you the, the right to be able to do that?

01:07:14.180 You think just, obviously, you just have a voice and anybody can?

01:07:17.220 Yeah.

01:07:17.840 Yeah.

01:07:18.180 Yeah.

01:07:18.420 I actually think we have a responsibility that if you see a problem and you know how to

01:07:21.820 fix it, or you think you can help, then you have to do that.

01:07:24.440 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:24.620 We're an asshole. 1.00

01:07:25.540 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:25.940 Yeah.

01:07:26.800 Yeah.

01:07:27.300 Look, it's wild.

01:07:28.080 I mean, look, you're super brave.

01:07:30.660 I mean, I think, you know, I don't know.

01:07:33.240 Sometimes I feel like I maybe do like bravery in some areas, you know, I like bravery to

01:07:36.820 sometimes to speak about certain stuff or to think about certain things.

01:07:40.800 I don't know.

01:07:41.340 I think I'm still learning a lot about myself, you know?

01:07:43.680 Isn't that fun?

01:07:44.900 It is pretty fun.

01:07:46.140 Look, it's the best.

01:07:47.220 It's like, yeah.

01:07:48.760 And if you don't take some risks and you don't do things, then where do you end up?

01:07:52.720 You know, I mean, you just end up not knowing, you know, you end up probably not.

01:07:57.340 I mean, the only way to get out of a fishbowl is to be, you know, kind of, you know, tempt

01:08:03.180 your fin in some other water.

01:08:04.560 You know, you got to kind of see what's going on.

01:08:06.520 So, yeah.

01:08:07.500 I mean, it's definitely, you know, it's super brave.

01:08:09.300 You might be the maybe, I mean, you're the first female guest we've had. 1.00

01:08:11.840 Is that right, Chris?

01:08:13.000 Yeah.

01:08:13.360 First female guest.

01:08:14.280 I am?

01:08:14.300 I win?

01:08:15.160 Yeah.

01:08:15.560 Yay.

01:08:16.080 Yeah, you might win.

01:08:17.020 Thanks.

01:08:17.720 I feel like I won being here, yeah.

01:08:19.500 Good luck with the video.

01:08:20.320 You don't know the name of it yet?

01:08:21.500 I don't yet, but there's a bunch coming up and then I'm working on the live tour right

01:08:25.660 now.

01:08:26.100 So, tickets will be available very soon.

01:08:28.360 And it's, the show is so funny.

01:08:31.820 It's insane.

01:08:32.640 Like, every single time we have like a meeting on the show and we're going through the script,

01:08:36.500 I'm crying and then everybody's crying and I'm like, oh, this is fun.

01:08:39.800 And what type of, is it just a one woman show? 1.00

01:08:42.600 No, there's a full cast in it.

01:08:44.400 So, there's like, there's myself, it starts out one way and then we take you a totally 0.73

01:08:48.960 different direction, but it's funny as fuck and super topical and really interactive with 0.93

01:08:54.560 social media. 0.91

01:08:55.180 And where could we see that?

01:08:56.120 Where could we buy tickets?

01:08:57.440 We're going to be touring everywhere, but you can just keep following you.

01:08:59.800 Are they announced yet?

01:09:00.760 Not yet, unfortunately, but we're going to be going to across the US and Australia and UK

01:09:06.080 and obviously I have to go to Canada.

01:09:07.860 Who do you liken yourself to?

01:09:10.020 Like, if you had to compare yourself to like another artist, you know?

01:09:12.480 Oh, it's hard.

01:09:16.400 Charles Descambino.

01:09:17.740 Ah, good one.

01:09:18.840 Good one.

01:09:20.140 Specifically the last few days, probably.

01:09:24.480 Like, I think...

01:09:25.860 Or this is just something new that we're on. 0.96

01:09:27.400 I'm on some new shit, but like, I think I'm a mashup of a Tony Robbins with a Carlin with... 0.92

01:09:35.420 I think I'm an old school entertainer where they used to do everything, like a Dick Van 0.98

01:09:39.800 Dyke. 1.00

01:09:40.540 That's, I think, I want to sing and dance and act and write and be funny and do all of

01:09:46.360 the stuff and I have motivational stuff coming up too and I have a motivational program.

01:09:50.280 I don't even know why pigeons would sit in holes. 1.00

01:09:53.820 That seems stupid. 0.99

01:09:54.800 They should get out. 1.00

01:09:55.300 Pigeons are fucking lazy, man. 1.00

01:09:57.360 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:57.540 I don't want no pigeons.

01:09:58.320 I think they are.

01:09:58.680 No.

01:09:59.140 No.

01:09:59.800 No.

01:10:00.120 Scrubs.

01:10:00.820 No.

01:10:01.280 Well, I appreciate you coming on and those are some big names.

01:10:05.500 Those are big names that you listed and, you know, yeah.

01:10:09.900 It's a...

01:10:10.900 I mean...

01:10:12.440 I look up to politicians too.

01:10:14.060 Yeah?

01:10:14.380 I think they're so brave.

01:10:15.800 Really?

01:10:16.360 Yeah.

01:10:17.000 I do.

01:10:17.600 Like, you can't be a politician without being willing to stand in the fire and, like, I really

01:10:22.780 look up to Michelle Obama recently.

01:10:24.540 Like, Oprah to me is, like, everything.

01:10:27.000 Yeah.

01:10:27.260 I know she is to a lot of people.

01:10:28.700 I just think she's so honest and multifaceted and I just think it's cool that she does everything.

01:10:34.620 And then, like, Michelle Obama, she just, like, she took that job that she was given and

01:10:40.600 she freaking ran with it. 1.00

01:10:41.920 And she ran a home and she ran a white house behind the scenes. 1.00

01:10:46.200 And you know that her husband was busy, but she kept that shit together and you know that 1.00

01:10:49.700 she was there for him. 0.99

01:10:50.840 And she started all these really cool initiatives.

01:10:53.160 Like, and she still is such, like, a model of what you can be.

01:10:57.520 I just think it's really neat.

01:10:59.220 Yeah.

01:11:00.120 Yeah.

01:11:00.500 I thought one of the greatest things that I've seen probably in my life is, was probably,

01:11:05.480 yeah, having, like, a...

01:11:06.520 Like, because if you're, like, a black child growing up, like, and you look at, like, the

01:11:11.580 White House and you've all, you know, you see, like, oh, a black man can be a president, 0.82

01:11:15.480 then it totally just changes your perspective.

01:11:17.300 Like, I used to think when I was young and they had commercials for Disney World on the

01:11:23.800 television and it was always white kids at Disney World.

01:11:26.540 Really?

01:11:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:27.240 And I was like, fuck, it's so, like... 1.00

01:11:29.260 I just remember thinking, like, black kids can't go to Disney World, like, you know, 1.00

01:11:33.340 just because that's what the commercial showed us, you know? 0.89

01:11:37.380 Yeah.

01:11:37.460 It's like, and they probably weren't, you know, thinking that way.

01:11:40.500 They were just probably thinking this is the clientele that, you know, like...

01:11:43.100 Yeah.

01:11:45.100 But, yeah, it's just wild.

01:11:46.620 It's, like, especially the things that we see and the things that, you know, that we

01:11:49.860 see are, you know, they can really inspire people, you know?

01:11:53.780 Yeah.

01:11:53.960 And, like, Jay-Z and, like, I love business, too.

01:11:57.140 Like, I don't know all of the directions I'm going to go.

01:12:00.360 Like, I have some feature films right now that people are, you know, aiming to buy for

01:12:04.180 me.

01:12:04.560 I have a live show that I'm selling to Vegas that's a crazy-ass show that I think people

01:12:08.800 are going to really enjoy.

01:12:10.060 I just have so many different things.

01:12:11.440 A lipstick line coming out called Get Lippy.

01:12:13.260 Like, I'm doing lots of stuff.

01:12:14.940 A lot of aspirations.

01:12:16.060 Yeah.

01:12:16.460 Yeah.

01:12:16.660 I'm doing them.

01:12:17.320 It's not even aspiring.

01:12:18.680 Like, they're happening right now.

01:12:19.860 They're all in motion.

01:12:20.760 And I look to someone like a Jay-Z or, like, a Diddy who, they started with the music,

01:12:25.580 or if I start with, like, with the comedy, and then you spiral it out to all these other

01:12:28.880 things.

01:12:29.300 It's just so fun.

01:12:30.440 Yeah.

01:12:31.040 Yeah.

01:12:31.820 Well, thanks for coming in and talking about us with the video.

01:12:35.620 I'm super curious to see how the next one goes.

01:12:38.160 Yay! 0.99

01:12:39.580 And she's... 0.98

01:12:41.820 You're so nervous.

01:12:43.040 I am?

01:12:43.640 Yeah, you're nervous about my next video.

01:12:45.420 I can tell.

01:12:46.320 Yeah, I wonder if I am a little bit.

01:12:47.940 I just, I guess I'm stuck somewhere in between, like, she's definitely brave, and just how,

01:12:56.440 like, what it feels like to have that controversy, because I don't feel uncomfortable.

01:12:59.300 For me, it feels so, that feels uncomfortable to me.

01:13:02.760 So, for you to be able to wear that, it just is, like, it's interesting.

01:13:08.220 So, my friend that was in here earlier, Olivia, I know we're wrapping up.

01:13:10.800 Yeah, Olivia.

01:13:11.540 Beautiful young lady, I thought, as well.

01:13:13.880 Single mother, isn't she? 0.99

01:13:15.320 No.

01:13:15.840 Yeah.

01:13:16.020 But, yeah, we'll go with that.

01:13:17.900 I'm her baby.

01:13:19.080 She was in Wonder Woman, and she's in the video, too.

01:13:22.180 And she was in the movie Wonder Woman.

01:13:24.020 She's one of the Amazons. 1.00

01:13:25.520 And we were both talking the other day about that scene in Wonder Woman, where there's fire

01:13:31.440 going on on this side, and there's fire going on on that side, and there's, like, the dead

01:13:34.680 zone in the middle that nobody will cross. 1.00

01:13:36.200 And I'm like, ah, fuck it. 1.00

01:13:37.280 I'm taking off my cloak. 1.00

01:13:38.140 Let's go.

01:13:38.900 Yeah. 1.00

01:13:39.040 Like, I just get that little moment of, okay, let's just Wonder Woman this shit. 1.00

01:13:43.680 Yeah. 1.00

01:13:44.000 And we'll see.

01:13:45.380 Do you feel like you have anything to lose, or no?

01:13:47.920 I think what I have to lose is my self-respect for myself if I don't do what I am inspired

01:13:54.340 to do.

01:13:55.880 I mean, yeah.

01:13:56.440 And if people, yeah, if you don't do what you feel like you can do, if you don't try,

01:13:59.480 then, I mean, no matter what it is, it probably doesn't end well for any of us, you know?

01:14:04.880 Yeah.

01:14:05.080 You've got to be brave.

01:14:07.220 Yeah.

01:14:07.600 She's viral.

01:14:08.700 Guilty.

01:14:09.180 She is viral, always.

01:14:12.480 Nicole, thanks so much for coming in and hanging out with us.

01:14:14.540 Thanks for having me, mister.

01:14:15.860 Yeah, I appreciate it.

01:14:16.620 This was random and fun.

01:14:17.600 And we'll put all her links to where she's headed below. 0.80

01:14:21.480 Chris, anything else?

01:14:23.180 No, that's it.

01:14:23.960 Thank you for coming in.

01:14:25.600 I appreciate it.

01:14:26.120 It was nice meeting you.

01:14:26.820 Nice to meet you, too.

01:14:27.680 And again, I love your beard.

01:14:29.120 Thank you so much.

01:14:30.100 I appreciate it.

01:14:41.800 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jonathan Kite, and welcome to Kite Club, a podcast where I'll

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01:15:01.640 You have three new voice messages.

01:15:04.620 A lot of people are talking about Kite Club.

01:15:07.500 I've been talking about Kite Club for so long.

01:15:10.180 Longer than anybody else.

01:15:11.840 So great.

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01:15:16.160 Anyone who doesn't listen to Kite Club is a dodgy bloody wanker. 0.99

01:15:20.080 Do you know what I mean? 0.99

01:15:21.340 Hi, I'll take a quarter pounder with cheese and a McFlurry.

01:15:25.160 Sorry, sir, but our ice cream machine is broken.

01:15:26.820 I think Tom Hanks just butt-dialed me.

01:15:31.780 Anyway, first rule of Kite Club is, tell everyone about Kite Club.

01:15:36.120 Second rule of Kite Club is, tell everyone about Kite Club.

01:15:40.340 Third rule, like and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

01:15:44.020 Or watch us on YouTube, yeah?

01:15:45.700 And yes, don't worry, my Brad Pitt impression will get better.

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - May 17, 2018

Nicole Arbour ｜ This Past Weekend #96

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