Nicole Arbour ｜ This Past Weekend #96
Episode Stats
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1 hour and 15 minutes
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215.94566
Summary
Nicole Arndt is a stand-up comedian from Los Angeles, California. She's been in the news the past day for a controversial video she posted on her social media accounts. Is she more controversial than controversy, or is she more controversy than comedy?
Transcript
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that. Also, this guest that we're coming in right now with, she is, well, she's controversial.
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She's a comedian. Is she more comedian than controversy? Is she more controversy than comedian?
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What's going on with this young lady? She's certainly been in the news the past day.
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What are you? Move the mic a little bit closer.
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Gryffindor positive all the time, even at the grand opening.
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I've only read about three or four of the books.
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And this is a crazy week because you were going to come in yesterday and then you couldn't come in.
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Put out one of those videos that went crazy viral.
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And I was, yeah, because I was watching the video and I didn't know that you had this video
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coming out whenever I'd asked you to come on the podcast.
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Well, I made it in 24 hours, so you probably wouldn't have known that.
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But yeah, so I watched the video and I was just like, I guess, and obviously there was
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some people, I got messages yesterday when I was like, Nicole Arbor's coming on and people
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You know, people just like, why would you have her on?
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Which I think is interesting, which whatever, you know, if that's how, you know, people want
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But what was like your thought process with the video?
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When I saw the original, like I watched, I consumed so much everything.
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And this was the first thing in a real long time that I watched it and I was like, oh
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Like it wasn't to me just about the theme of black people in America that got to me because
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obviously I can't identify as that, but it was the truth.
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I like, I think there's so much bravery in people being honest.
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And I felt like it was really raw and really honest.
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And even him like being shirtless and the facials and everything about it.
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But I kind of think that I can show you my reality and then maybe, just maybe, I know
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it's a crazy fucking idea, but we can find some common ground within our empathy for
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Because I see, as a Canadian, I see so much divide that I just haven't experienced growing
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Race relations are very different in Canada and America.
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And when I came here, I almost had a culture shock.
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I went to a hip hop club, which I go to all the time in Toronto.
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And I went to a hip hop club here in Hollywood.
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And they were like, someone came up to me, a guy and his girlfriend, obviously black.
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And they were like, it's not that we don't know why you're here.
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We just don't understand why you're so comfortable.
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Like, yeah, I just wanted to like show my perspective of growing up as a woman.
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And there was a lot of other girls that jumped in and did that too.
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And I think a lot of people look at me and assume I'm extra stupid because of, there's
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And yeah, there's imagery throughout my entire video that people are definitely missing because
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I think they just assumed I wouldn't have imagery in my video.
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So yeah, the whole thing was an homage from my perspective in hopes of pivoting and making
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everybody included in like, okay, we all have all this shit.
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And let's just get fucking honest, meet at the ground floor and then go up.
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Because I just, I don't like seeing people fighting about nothing all the time.
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So that was, so that's, so like, what was your thought?
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I mean, so you, and now did you, can you move the mic a little closer?
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Um, did you, I mean, when you watch the video, did you, I mean, obviously there's a lot of
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articles saying, you know, that it has so much like representation and, um, you know,
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it has so many, so much symbolism and stuff like that.
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Did you feel that when you first watched it or did you just feel like, oh, this is a, uh,
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And like, that's why, like, obviously mine isn't the higher level that his was.
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Cause I had a 24 hour turnaround, which I'm pretty damn proud of.
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One thing was just like, well, it's so fast that she must've like, like, did, was your
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thought process like, um, you know, I want to capitalize on the heat of this video.
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No, it was more like in retrospect, if I knew how much bigger his video was a bet to
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get, cause I made mine when it was at 43 million views.
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So to me, I know the lifespan of a viral video or something going big is about a week.
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So I was like, okay, I'll put this out at the one week mark.
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Cause I was looking at what's trending and I was like, okay, it's at this spot.
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Um, so I could have like held off and put it out later in retrospect, definitely.
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But yeah, I definitely wanted people, people know it's the same thing.
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And did you know people would take such offense to your video?
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No, it's, it was hilariously shocking to me cause I'm really good at creating a conversation
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on offensive topics and hope of us like finding solutions.
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But you, so you didn't, I think that might be what it might be tough, you know, to not
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It's just that like, you know, you have, if you have a history of rabble rousing, do you
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think it's, I mean, I guess you couldn't be surprised that people are going to think,
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What, uh, it's interesting for me because I came out doing, I did stand up for years
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and I was a professional dancer and choreographer.
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I've choreographed and produced giant award shows.
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I mean, you know, I'm not a great dancer, so anything's good for me, but I thought it
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Uh, so for me to turn something around bigger, like a bigger production like that and direct
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And for me, I'm, I'm bored at staring at a camera and talking to it.
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And the live tour I have coming out has elements of everything in it.
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And I just wanted to make something bigger because that's what I wanted to do.
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And there was such positive intention behind it.
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Like, and the entire cast and crew and like hearing people be like, oh, it's racist and
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I'm like, half of my cast and crew are black people.
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The producer and the engineer, the sound engineer who are award winning in their fields are black
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I mean, it seemed like it, I mean, I felt like it seemed hurried kind of, you know, it
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definitely seemed, I was like, wow, I cannot believe she put this together.
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It was just like, like, were you in a, were you like, and did you have a certain amount
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of time that you had to get it done in or something?
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I thought, I thought that video was going to decline and I just loved it so much.
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And I just really in this utopia in my mind that I've created, if everybody put out their
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version of what America is like to them, we would finally have some common ground.
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It just seemed like it was, did it feel just like a, did it, I guess it, did it feel like
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So, yes, because I always want to start conversations.
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That to me is like, if there's a big conversation starting, that means it needs to happen.
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If we're not resolved on an issue, that's when there's a lot of controversy behind it.
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We can't have controversy if there's a resolution on that topic.
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So, it's not the topic I wanted to be discussing, but a topic came up nonetheless.
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So, I'm doing a video tomorrow on how I think we can stop racism in America.
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And I have theories and I think I'm at a cool spot because I am Canadian and I can step
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back and kind of see a big picture and maybe people will agree, maybe they'll disagree,
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Do you think that if you were, like, who can put out a women, because your video is a women's
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You're like, this is, as a woman, this is what I see.
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You know, this is my, like, my childhood, you know, this is my version.
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This is of what it's like for me as a woman or what some of my life is like, right?
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Um, and a lot of people said, you know, I heard that like, oh, well, if this were a black
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woman or a Latino woman that nobody would care, nobody would have been upset.
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But that's like a lot of what I've done in my entire career with my, let's say, Dear Fat
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People are like, oh, well, if she was ugly, then no one would care if she put out this
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There would be no pushback on like, uh, other videos I've done.
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They're like, yeah, but if she was a dude and said the same things, there'd be no issue.
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And like, I hear I'm the wrong look like daily.
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Of course, if it was a black woman or a Latina, no one would have cared.
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I mean, I do think there's a double standard sometimes that it's like, you know, um, that
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it's feels sometimes like white people can't say anything.
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Um, yeah, that's what I'm definitely touching on in my video tomorrow.
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And I read a lot of the comments from both sides and it just feels like, I think we're
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both at the same spot actually, because white people feel like they're walking on eggshells
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It's like what you say can and will be used against you in the court of black Twitter.
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And then on the other side, there's black people who rightfully feel on eggshells because there's
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Like I can see both sides, but we, we have to talk, you know what I mean?
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Like we have to get this shit out and we have to stop judging each individual person as a
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whole of that group just because of their skin color on both sides.
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I mean, it's definitely always good to have a conversation.
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That's why some people were like, you shouldn't have her on.
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And I was like, well, you know, it's conversation.
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Like, what are we going to, how do we, you know, if we limit ourselves from things that
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we, that sometimes we don't agree with or things that we're unsure about or just things
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that other people said, like, this is bad or this isn't how I like it or whatever.
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Um, then how are we, you know, then we're just going to be stuck in our safe kind of
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But did you think you had to think when you saw that video that it was, you know, there's
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so much like, you know, like black attraction to it, like so many art, like so much revelry
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and excitement, um, that did you think that like, Oh, this is going to piss off some black
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And because as someone that's controversial, I feel like that you, that's kind of where
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I thought feminists might be the only ones who come at me like, no, like what would feminists
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Cause if it's a woman's edit, what would feminists be upset about?
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Like I hear that any, anything I do, I get people being like, you can't do that after
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Um, but there were also so many opportunities for say my producer or my sound engineer or
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I mean, I thought there was definitely diversity in the cast.
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I was like, yeah, they were all really excited because we really did have a really cool,
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genuine message and I broke it down in a really cool way.
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If it's actually watched does not look at this stupid white girl trying to imitate or
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If you actually look at it, like I did my best.
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You know, I definitely thought that I thought it was like, I mean, I wasn't a huge fan of
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But I thought the video was, I thought the video was super.
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And it definitely, you know, it makes you think about things.
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It made me feel there were moments where I wanted to keep it on and, you know, and turn
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And there were moments where I wanted to turn it off when I was watching his original version.
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I liked that it like, you know, it had me going in all different ways and had me like, you
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know, I had visceral reactions to it, you know, where I found myself like, geez, what's
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Like, am I, should I, am I okay watching this here in this place where I'm watching?
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Um, and I think that was the point of the video too, right?
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For something like, depending on who you were watching the video, you would get a different
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You know, cause I know like coming from a Latino's perspective too.
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Like, and this is a Chris Perez is our producer, Chris Perez.
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I mean, coming at it from a Latino's perspective, I definitely got a different take out of it.
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I feel then even some black people did and then some white people did watching it.
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So did you feel like then like, I mean, do you feel like you succeeded in representing,
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like pulled off kind of a woman's edit or do you feel like you, um, do you feel like
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you like that you, cause you kind of got like a lot of racial pushback and stuff too.
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Do you feel like you were deserving of that or that was all just a skew?
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I got a lot of comments from women who were like, holy fuck.
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You just said that thing that I think, but I've never said.
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And then I got a lot of black people being like, yo, I get what you were doing.
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You're not allowed to comment on anything that black people do or any black art.
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Didn't mean to bring up the other conversations.
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And it's been pretty interesting to dive into that stuff.
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Because some screenshots of different things I've commented back to people were clipped
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And I totally see where hurt feelings can come from that.
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Like, I typed, some guy was like, what's the opposite of white woman tears everywhere?
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I mean, you know, it's like anybody can put out anything.
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Do you feel, like, I feel like there could have been more time between when you put yours
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And you, there was no, you had no, because I find like you like rushed to get it out,
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And I just know that generally a trend like that, I didn't think it was going to be Pharrell
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I thought that it was going to be big, but I didn't know it was Pharrell Happy big.
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Like, so I was like, I felt like an asshole when People Magazine wrote that article recently.
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And I thought that was super cool, but I felt like an asshole.
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I'm like, okay, now I'm, I'm literally deflecting shine from the original.
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Like, not to say that it is like Pharrell Happy, but like, I loved that when Pharrell had
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that and it made people feel something, thousands and thousands of people made their own
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And see, and like, I want to believe you, you know, and I do, I want to believe you,
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Um, but I guess, I guess you, you just, since you have this realm of like controversy that
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Like, but do you, but you understand that though?
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I was doing an interview with, uh, Yahoo earlier today and she's like, in Santa Monica?
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Like we didn't, I did a bunch of interviews today and the one with Yahoo was interesting
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because she's like, oh, was this like, you were trying to just get attention for this
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I'm like, no, I was like, I was just doing some art.
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I'm not, I'm not at level 12, piss people off all the time.
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And when I am pissing people off, my core fans definitely know it's always to get to
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Every single video I've ever done, if you break it down, like, let's say the most controversial
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of dear fat people, it's like, I was disabled for six years.
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And then I would see people doing things to their bodies and like abusing themselves and
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And I'm like, ah, I wish I could do what you're doing right now.
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Like, I wish I could go out and go running and you're eating garbage and you're killing
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yourself and you're, you're eating your feelings.
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And I was like, we need, sometimes you need a drill sergeant.
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And I felt like people to snap them out of that needed a drill sergeant.
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And if someone's dying, which I felt like a lot of people are on that topic, it doesn't
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You got to get the fucking paddles and shock them and be like, what are you doing?
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But each video, like I treat each thing differently depending on the topic, but it's always with
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the hopes of a resolution and like us just keeping it fucking real.
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You'll get to know me more and I think you'll change your mind.
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You know, we did that together like a couple of weeks ago.
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And I didn't know about, you know, any, I didn't know that you had like this, you noticed
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you had this kind of controversial kind of vibe, you know, or sometimes this controversial
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And look, I think there's all types of entertainment.
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I mean, I thought that your video was, um, I was like, wow, this is impressive.
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Like how, like, how did she get this, you know, how did she get this done?
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And so fast, I mean, it was so fast cause it was what 48 hours after his came out or something.
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I recorded it a bit sooner cause I had like one day to kind of tweak it and stuff, but it's
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cause I, I produce large scale things all of the time and people don't know like 90%
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I, I have a whole other life other than those things and the comedy.
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So for me to call up some dancers and some other people and say, Hey guys, I have this idea.
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And like the people in it, there were reporters in it.
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There were the people from Playboy radio in it.
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There were like, there were a lot of real cool people and, uh, everyone had a great, like
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We had a big team meeting at the beginning and I'm like, I want us to remember our messages
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A lot of thought and a lot of thought and care.
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There's like, you know, I've watched it a couple of times.
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I mean, it's like, you know, there's definitely a thing out there where it's, you know, um,
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where things get roasted on, in, uh, in Twitter and in these weird worlds where it's, you know,
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I mean, obviously there's so much bandwagon, you know, finger pointing and hatred out and
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I mean, I felt like probably a lot of people were, I think maybe people's upsetness.
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Could come from just the fact that it was so close to that.
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Like, I think people were still trying to live in this world of this video and learn what
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And then, yeah, I could see how somebody would be like, oh, and then some white woman
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came along and took it from us, you know, but I see it.
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No, at some point we do just have to be human beings.
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And it's like, you know, if, if we're all going to be equal, then we'd all just need
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And yeah, if you weren't a white woman, would people have looked at you the same?
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And the funny part is like, I've been discussing this like with my team.
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And, uh, they're all like, Nicole, you're, you're used to this.
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They assume there's no intent behind anything you do.
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People think a lot about me a lot of times, you know?
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Um, yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, it's just, it's certainly interesting.
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This is where I struggle, like, like, or not struggle, but this is where I'm wondering,
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how do you go from controversy to comedy though?
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Well, that's where I'm like, well, how does this contra comedy?
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Cause if people show up and they are, you know, if people are like miffed, if we can
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use that word, then how are you going to, you know, how do you then, it seems like you're
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bringing them a far way back around to get them to laugh.
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Well, that video wasn't supposed to make them laugh.
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Like if we're talking about that video in particular.
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No, I think I'm just talking overall, like how do you go from controversy?
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Well, my other videos aren't, my other videos are comedy videos.
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And then I do live shows and I put the real shit in there and I just like, I like to secretly
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teach people things or make them secretly think about stuff.
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But something like this, like, I don't know, I'm going to navigate it because I do want
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I'm going to be doing more politically charged shit.
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I don't want to be a one dimensional, one trick.
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Just be funny only because I, I have more to me and I actually love that about Childish
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Like he does stand up, he does acting, he does his music, he, I, that's who I am.
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So I have to start letting that out or I won't be happy as a person.
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But I, you know, well, I guess maybe that would have been a next question of mine.
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Like, I'm sure there had to be a moment or two where you were like, cause I would be
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Like the internet sometimes can be scary to me.
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Like I remember one time I was dating, um, you know, I dated like this lady that was
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on real housewives a couple of years ago or something.
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And suddenly it was, I was at the gym and it was like on the bottom of the ticker and
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I was like, what the F like, and I wasn't even like super really dating her, you know,
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And then I'm like, and I just remember being like, I don't like this.
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Like I want to be an entertainer, but I, whatever this other thing is happening out here where
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it's like, there's this press and there's this opinion or, and this stuff that's forming
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It felt extremely, I remember calling my manager.
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I was like, can you just make this stop somehow?
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Um, so I'm sure, and I'm sure you felt a lot of like some of that, like when that kind
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So like last time I had tons of controversy, I've had controversy a bunch of times.
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The first time I was not ready, I was not ready.
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And I was literally disabled still and on disability when I filmed my first video that
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The fourth super viral video was Dear Fat People.
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But that one, when that one went crazy viral, I was still on disability.
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So I was like, oh shit, I'm getting press in the UK.
00:27:59.660
Like I was still in pain and like, I would make that video so different now.
00:28:03.400
But, uh, yeah, I was like, oh shit, I better get up because.
00:28:08.720
Here's, I'm on a roller coaster whether I like it or not.
00:28:17.380
And when people are saying things that are untrue about you and I've had people pretend
00:28:21.380
I've had like, I've had a whole bunch of that stuff, that icky feeling of like, ah, don't
00:28:31.940
But this time around when that started happening, I didn't anticipate it like that, but I felt
00:28:36.320
like I was ready because I know who I am now and people, and this is going to sound so
00:28:42.420
afterschool special, but people calling me a racist doesn't make me a racist.
00:28:48.260
I mean, there's so much witch hunting out there these days and it's ill, a lot of it's
00:28:55.700
Um, cause I, you wouldn't, you know, I mean, I don't know.
00:29:03.140
You know, the video didn't strike me as all at all as racist.
00:29:07.980
And I mean, I feel like, I feel like I would know a racist pretty easy cause I've, you know,
00:29:12.140
I grew up in an area where there's a lot of racism.
00:29:15.280
Um, and I feel like it's, uh, I mean, I felt like, yeah, it's kind of messed up that,
00:29:20.980
It's, it's tougher these days for a white woman to have a voice.
00:29:27.160
And you know, I don't, I love your chance by the way.
00:29:29.580
Um, you know, I'm not comparing my, in quotes, struggle to other people, but legitimately,
00:29:35.680
I feel like I am not allowed to be a intelligent, be talented unless my clothes are taken off,
00:29:42.540
which I address in my video by the dancers being scantily clad.
00:29:46.180
All are professional ballerinas, but it doesn't matter.
00:29:48.760
Cause when we show up on set, we were supposed to be in thongs and be twerking.
00:29:52.060
Like we are really put into these boxes and I just, I can't live like that.
00:29:59.100
I have to do what I'm here to do and what I'm called to do.
00:30:02.940
Well, I don't know what you believe in up there, but, uh, when I have ideas and larger
00:30:07.800
concepts and I'm being called to do it, I just, I have to do what I got to do.
00:30:12.280
And, and do you like, do, but do you risk, I mean, do you feel like, was there a fear this
00:30:16.460
time that you're like, fuck, I'm going to lose, I'm going to lose my whole audience.
00:30:23.680
Like, I think you have those little like waves of like, oh fuck, oh fuck.
00:30:34.660
I'm so thankful this time that like people I thought was really fair and Perez Hilton of
00:30:41.580
all people I thought was really fair, which is cool.
00:30:43.780
Cause he wasn't so fair to me in the past, but like.
00:30:46.360
He's changed a lot in like the past six or seven years.
00:30:48.480
I remember having an interview with him a couple of, about six months ago and he was
00:30:52.800
a lot different than he used to be a long time ago.
00:30:55.420
How we like, we get to change and I think we have to allow people that ability to change.
00:31:01.000
We have to give people room to a fuck up because if we're all living in a world where
00:31:04.740
we're not allowed to fuck up or experiment, especially when we're all fucked up anyhow.
00:31:11.660
I think we all have to just like loosen the reins a little bit.
00:31:15.300
And I think that'll happen more when, uh, we start having real conversations and being
00:31:21.240
I think of someone like Justin Bieber who grew up with that kind of like scrutiny on
00:31:27.000
him and, or Chris Brown that, you know, he makes a mistake that of course it's a, it's
00:31:32.840
What happened with him and Rihanna, but for him to have to live in that forever, it's just
00:31:39.800
And I think we got to like readdress how we are treating each other.
00:31:43.420
Well, do you think, um, but do you feel like, I mean, some of your stuff that it, that
00:31:49.100
it treats people, I mean, if, if like a, like say like the fast shame video, like, is
00:32:07.860
And, uh, I'm sure you have those too, but that served its purpose.
00:32:12.280
Like I got thousands upon thousands of people and I still get them daily being like, you
00:32:18.180
I needed someone to, I watched your video and I went, Oh fuck, she's talking to me and I
00:32:32.400
Someone brought it up to me that you might be fat.
00:32:36.280
You know, it's, it's actually funny cause my weight fluctuates a lot.
00:32:39.540
And my best friend read this article of some guy who texted his friend that he was fat
00:32:47.500
And during college and finals, I was stressing out and eating a lot.
00:32:51.180
And he texted me every single day that I was fat and it kind of did help, you know,
00:32:57.620
You know, he did, I guess, fat shame me a little bit and I lost the weight.
00:33:00.140
And then I think this past year I started putting it back on again.
00:33:03.340
What happened to somebody dying in your family?
00:33:05.040
Like how, what made you think like you put it back on?
00:33:07.380
Like, well, you know, I'm like a stress eater, you know, and I used to, I actually used to
00:33:20.360
I actually boxed most of my life and then I broke my shoulder playing football and that
00:33:25.180
kind of limited, I had like multiple surgeries.
00:33:30.840
And then I don't know if you know anything about boxing, but we had to do a lot of weight
00:33:34.300
So I was always on diets and food is delicious.
00:33:37.900
And I hate having to like lose, you know, when you're cutting weight, you have to lose like
00:33:46.240
So after all that, I was like, well, I don't, I'm not going to box anymore.
00:33:48.820
I mean, I used to want to be a professional boxer.
00:33:51.480
And that's just, that completely went out the window.
00:33:54.480
And I was like, well, I'm just going to eat whatever I want to eat.
00:33:56.340
And what about, no, whenever you saw the fat shame video though, or the, I mean, I don't
00:34:01.180
I mean, I saw that when it went viral, you know, it didn't bother, it didn't bother me
00:34:05.300
Cause one, I understand that it's satire, you know, I totally got that and it helped it.
00:34:13.080
You know, I think comedy, if you're funny, that trumps a lot of things, you know, like,
00:34:18.440
and then, um, I could see how some people would get offended.
00:34:23.180
It's just, I'm not somewhat, I'm just not going to get offended by that.
00:34:29.380
Like I grew up in such a multicultural neighborhood and I was watching the Simpsons and I grew
00:34:33.800
up with an Italian neighborhood, but going to school with Trinis and Jamaicans were my
00:34:39.760
And like, we all roasted each other every day and about our ethnicities.
00:34:49.600
It's like, I don't feel like in a lot of ways that we have gone, uh, I feel like we've
00:34:55.120
I just feel like electronically, it's like, we're still, we're living in different centuries
00:34:59.320
and we keep bringing those different centuries up into current times.
00:35:06.240
I just feel like on social media, a lot of us aren't evolved or we're, we're just, it's
00:35:14.760
That's why I turned off some comments, my comments.
00:35:16.560
I turned it off on YouTube on this video and I turned it off on Instagram.
00:35:19.800
The second I saw my cast getting like super harassed and hated on.
00:35:25.840
Cause I noticed some of your cast didn't share the video.
00:35:37.660
And some of them were like, no, we're putting it out.
00:35:40.820
And like a bunch of them posted even more after that.
00:35:49.480
Was there a difference between like, if like a black girls or white girls or Latino girls
00:35:57.120
And the producer, the guy that produced the track, Quinn Anthony, badass friend of mine
00:36:01.920
for years now, he did some interviews yesterday.
00:36:04.600
Like I said, he's a black guy and he went to bat and he's a very intelligent, very philosophical
00:36:12.460
And he was like, you know, how are you calling appropriation on Nicole?
00:36:16.440
You know, let's say for example, Whitney Houston's number one hit is I Will Always
00:36:36.280
And yeah, like I had a whole bunch of big music producers hit me up and all black people
00:36:50.120
Did you feel like, did you feel like the video was so outside of the race thing then,
00:36:55.180
Cause yeah, I felt like, I was like, this is just seemed like such an easy thing to accuse
00:37:00.380
And if we can't all just do whatever we want to do.
00:37:06.160
I feel like most people are kind of doing what they want to do.
00:37:08.980
Like when I look around, like most people, it's like, I don't see as much.
00:37:14.080
I mean, there's certain things are certainly not as racist as the environment that I grew
00:37:17.980
I don't hear anything like I used to hear when I was a kid.
00:37:23.380
And you know what the problem with calling everything racist is that it takes away it from
00:37:28.260
You know, like my, when my family first immigrated here, they experienced actual racism, you
00:37:32.800
know, like, and, and to say that you're racist because of that video is the, it's, it's like
00:37:42.620
But do you think it was now people could definitely get lost here?
00:37:45.840
I feel like this is a place where I got lost with it.
00:37:48.040
I felt like, where was it comedy or was it trying to make a statement?
00:37:56.020
I think there was biting satire, hence the smiling to the camera while I'm talking about
00:38:07.980
I'm going to smile and say, fuck you to the camera while I do a video while a girl's being
00:38:12.740
carried away by a Mexican man who he had actually gotten the date rape drug.
00:38:18.540
I think he said three times, three times himself, like there was multiple people in there that
00:38:25.200
Like it's, it's biting and it's satire, but there was no ha ha funniness to any of it.
00:38:30.940
Do you think then, so I guess like as an entertainer, are you going to be able to get people,
00:38:36.400
do you feel like you still want to be a comedian or do you feel like you are trying to go in
00:38:42.040
Cause I feel like it's going to be hard to get people from controversy to comedy.
00:38:48.680
But I've been doing it like shows all the time, uh, huge tours offered right now and I'm going
00:38:53.420
to be doing them and I'm really excited and I'm, I'm going to Nicole Arbor it.
00:38:57.540
I'm not going to just stand there with a mic and tell jokes cause that's not where I'm
00:39:06.040
Even watching the Childish Gambino video, I was like, oh wow.
00:39:08.680
Like this is something that if you're an actor or you're a comedian, you can do this also
00:39:16.000
Um, and even watching your video, I was like, oh wow, this is brave.
00:39:21.060
Like that's something you can do if you feel it.
00:39:26.000
Cause there's some serious irony to that tap scene.
00:39:35.620
Um, there's the irony of that part is I was like, you know what?
00:39:38.840
I want to do a nod to cultural appropriation, but I've been taught it since I was a kid.
00:39:45.860
So I realized that tap comes from the minstrel shows, then went to vaudeville.
00:39:50.900
And I know that because one of my like huge inspirations and then teachers was Gregory
00:39:55.200
Who's like the notorious tap man of the world, black man, for those who don't know.
00:40:00.420
And growing up as a kid, he didn't say to me, little white girl, you're not allowed to
00:40:19.000
And I'm like, well, here's three white girls that, uh, grew up learning tap and it's not
00:40:23.120
because we wanted to culturally appropriate or steal.
00:40:25.400
It's because it was taught to us and we love it too.
00:40:27.600
So I threw that in there as a little nod to the cultural appropriation, which looking
00:40:34.780
Well, I mean, if we're all out here, some of the sometimes cultural push, I'm like, this
00:40:37.940
is just, I mean, if you want to look back through the history books, like there's, it's
00:40:42.460
all been, everything's been culturally appropriated somewhere along the lines.
00:40:47.980
Did you know, did you, yeah, thank God it doesn't come from white people originally.
00:40:53.920
I think it would have been, I think it would have been a lot worse.
00:40:55.900
Do you, but you have to know at some point, like this is gonna push some buttons.
00:41:07.240
I, my favorite jokes and the things that I see in the world, like I love George Carlin
00:41:16.780
But do you think it's like, say you're doing the tab dancing.
00:41:20.340
You don't think like, oh, this is cause there's some, you know, like you don't think, oh,
00:41:41.140
I will bring goddamn raisins and put it into your potato salad.
00:41:48.500
It's like, how can you live your life in a world where it is tough to live your life
00:41:53.140
in a world where things are, you know, created by everyone.
00:42:01.440
Does that mean no little black girls can be ballerinas?
00:42:07.420
I just think it's dumb and we all need to like.
00:42:10.120
Oh, I don't think it's, I don't think any of that kind of stuff is helping us.
00:42:14.340
There's definitely a very stupid double standard to cultural appropriation.
00:42:18.680
I don't even, honestly, I don't subscribe to that rule.
00:42:23.680
Or being Mexican, I'm the first person in my family to be born in America.
00:42:28.620
And I think, I just, I don't understand the negative part about cultural appropriation.
00:42:33.720
I love it when I see black people open up a taco stand.
00:42:37.820
I think that is the best thing ever because they're, they want to share my culture.
00:42:45.220
And it's, I think also in, you know, Japanese culture is the same thing.
00:42:51.120
So I don't understand when I see another group of people like say, no, you're not allowed to use my culture.
00:42:58.660
That goes against everything that I was brought up.
00:43:01.640
I feel why they do it too, though, because they still feel oppression.
00:43:05.400
It's not the same oppression from 200 years ago, which is another tweet I got in trouble for when they were, I said, I'm sick of people talking about slavery, something along the lines of it's over.
00:43:14.680
Let's focus on the socioeconomic slavery of now, which I'm going to address in my video because it's true.
00:43:23.500
So, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's, yeah, it's tough to, it's like.
00:43:28.300
Like, do you want me to tag black girls when I wear braids?
00:43:31.600
But if someone could give me some kind of playbook, that'd be cool.
00:43:35.260
I mean, a lot of it's so vague and it's based on how, it's based on what articles people want to write in and what, how upset people want to try and get people.
00:43:42.960
And there's a lot of people, tons of people who sit on Twitter, sit on social media and do nothing else to contribute to anything.
00:43:52.860
I thought yesterday I was like, man, if all these people that are hitting up my Twitter went out and voted for whatever cause they want, whether it be a, a large presidential thing, a local thing, a municipal thing, well, shit, we could get things changed.
00:44:09.960
Imagine, imagine they got to turn voting into like online on Twitter, make it like American Idol.
00:44:18.220
You know, I think, I mean, everyone says that the rock is like running for president is planning on running for president next time.
00:44:23.660
So I could easily see it being something like that.
00:44:36.640
Like breakfast club yesterday was making fun of me.
00:44:40.360
I think that's a, them talking about me makes me very happy.
00:44:46.500
But do you think that like the long term of it, do you think it's a viable, like being controversial?
00:45:03.780
I can make jokes like about anything and keep them within the realm of safe and get laughs.
00:45:12.820
Like, I don't think that I was in a car accident and spent years in bed to come back to not live what I think is going to be what I'm here for.
00:45:20.500
So I know it sounds a little bit Kanye-ish, but I have to do what I know to be right and fix what I think is wrong.
00:45:39.360
And so do you feel like this new, this next video that you have, you already mentioned
00:45:46.800
And I'm doing a round table with all people of color and all these people kept saying, you
00:45:56.400
And it's like, why does someone understand sometimes?
00:46:12.660
Sometimes the best conversations, the realest conversations are had off screen.
00:46:20.780
Because that's the only safe place to have conversations now is when there's no cameras
00:46:34.200
But it is, you know, it is, it is interesting how, you know, it's like, you know, do you
00:46:41.620
think sometimes there's just been such a way for so long that, you know, maybe black
00:46:45.460
people feel, I mean, you can understand black people's perspective though on when they,
00:46:48.840
when, when people were upset with you, if you, if there were black followers or black
00:46:52.280
people on social media, some of them, I mean, obviously there's a lot of Muppets out
00:46:55.480
I don't care if they're black or white or fucking blue who just follow the, who have never
00:47:01.100
We're just a bunch of fucking goldfish no matter what they just, you know, they're
00:47:07.180
But do you feel like, could you understand some people's angst?
00:47:11.120
From the video, I think it's really misdirected, really misdirected if they take a second to
00:47:18.080
I don't think like a remix video should be met with the same fire as someone who has shot
00:47:25.640
Like, and that's what came at me, which is, I think it's ridiculous.
00:47:29.300
The tweets that were taken out of context, a hundred percent, a hundred percent see how
00:47:37.580
Uh, if people don't like my music, that's fine.
00:47:54.200
Like, not that, not to compare myself to him, but imagine what he went through just
00:47:58.880
because he loves the art of rap and hip hop as like the sole white person that was really
00:48:03.940
pushing through all that, what he's been called, what he was like, and that was in real
00:48:09.000
And people would beat him up for coming to a show.
00:48:12.640
If I look at people who've done like way bigger shit than me and I'm like, okay, if they can
00:48:18.020
I can just put on my Wonder Woman suit and walk through the fire.
00:48:21.240
Look, I mean, it's, it's, uh, it was definitely, it was definitely brave, you know, it was
00:48:28.360
I mean, it's like, here's a, you know, do you feel like it landed where you wanted it
00:48:36.880
Uh, like I'm a, I'm a big, everything's happening for a reason kind of person.
00:48:40.400
And then you see where it is and then you learn from that, you adjust the dial and then
00:48:45.680
And, uh, yeah, because I know who I am and I know the goal is never to just hurt people
00:48:53.160
Uh, yeah, I think there's always room for me to learn and adjust and tweak things, but
00:48:59.900
Cause like my whole team stood behind me even when I was like, no, get the fuck back.
00:49:09.900
Do you feel like there's like that you can get that with that much like people like having,
00:49:15.820
do you feel like the media treated you fairly kind of?
00:49:28.780
So I literally feel like this is the most fair I've been treated.
00:49:32.840
We can see what Yahoo said after, because it was a really fair conversation.
00:49:37.540
So we'll see what they report after, but I've had people completely twist my words or full
00:49:51.260
No, you're not shocking me by calling me mayonnaise.
00:49:56.380
But I think people, I think Perez, I think a couple others were super fair.
00:49:59.900
I think the political websites that actually broke down the frames of my video with his
00:50:07.560
Like after today, I probably won't ever want to talk about this video.
00:50:14.020
Um, the next, this next video you have coming up, what is this about?
00:50:17.920
Um, I don't know what I'm going to title it yet, but it's definitely about fixing racism.
00:50:22.440
It's like white girl's going to fix racism in under five minutes.
00:50:25.980
I have a big idea and I think that's what everything's about.
00:50:30.040
Like I have a bunch of like Ted talk kind of stuff's coming up to you and I've done talks
00:50:35.840
I love being able to flex my intellectual muscles and then go back to comedy and then go dance
00:50:42.540
So there's going to be a little bit of that in there tomorrow.
00:50:45.020
It's going to be comedy mixed with a bit of my preaching and then, uh, yeah.
00:51:04.700
He was on, uh, no, he was on Instagram for a while and he always had like these abs and
00:51:08.100
he was on drugs, but he was like, damn, he was like, but is he single?
00:51:15.380
He got tattoos of like doves or something on his neck.
00:51:21.640
I remember now I'm trying to, cause he did a, he was like holding the gun.
00:51:29.120
I'm trying to remember his name, but I know, I know exactly what you're talking about now.
00:51:32.380
Cause he had like kind of like long hair a little bit.
00:51:34.700
And then he would, he was like holding the gun.
00:51:38.980
The titties tool line I thought was really good.
00:51:47.900
And it's, it's so God, like, I know this is your comedy podcast, but it's just so interesting.
00:51:56.120
We talk about a lot of real stuff on this show.
00:51:58.900
No, sometimes it's like, usually like the Monday episodes, more comedy.
00:52:01.660
And if we have a guest and it's just like about just life, you know, or just like about
00:52:05.460
what's going on or like, what makes you, you know, what makes us feel like we feel or
00:52:13.620
Do you think there's something in your past that makes you okay or comfortable, like in
00:52:16.620
the, like having even controversy in your world?
00:52:18.700
Cause a lot of people don't want that at all, you know?
00:52:22.320
And well, I've been like this since I was a kid.
00:52:24.180
I was always in trouble cause I would ask questions.
00:52:26.340
I got kicked out of class at private Catholic school so many times because I would stand up
00:52:31.460
to the teachers when they would say something I didn't agree with.
00:52:38.660
And I was sitting beside my gay friend and I could feel him dying on the inside.
00:52:45.640
I'm like, there are examples of being gay in the Bible.
00:52:49.420
Plus if you think it's wrong, Jesus would forgive you anyway.
00:52:56.000
And then I did my ISU, which takes you an entire semester to do on all the ways I found
00:53:02.760
people being gay in the Bible and all the examples.
00:53:13.300
I remember when I was in high school, they had a man I met.
00:53:19.800
He should have been a waiter by then, but he was still busing.
00:53:23.760
And this gentleman was a buddy of mine, you know, and he was, you know, a homoerotic man.
00:53:31.200
We'd pull off the side of the interstate and shoot steroids in each other's buttockses.
00:53:37.400
And it was, I mean, it wasn't like, I mean, that was my, uh, broke top.
00:53:45.100
That was my broke back mountain was me and this Italian dude, uh, just gunning steroids
00:53:50.580
into each other's butt cheeks as chill, you know, as well, I was a bus boy.
00:53:53.920
He was a bus man, but, um, yeah, that was probably a, so yeah, anyway, crazy shit happens
00:54:04.340
And he died actually shut out, uh, Billy Conforto.
00:54:07.200
He was on pills and he drove into an embankment.
00:54:17.460
Um, we were talking about, I've just always kind of been a rebel like that.
00:54:22.180
But I also, yeah, do you feel that need to, to like, I feel the need to do what's right
00:54:28.200
Like, but do you, do you always trust your idea of like, do you have a, do you feel like
00:54:35.920
And when I, when it's not right and I do it anyway, it never works out well.
00:54:41.180
When I force something, when I don't go with my gut, all of it, like, yeah.
00:54:45.640
And then being, for me, being in a car accident and like not being in the world really for
00:54:50.600
so many years, uh, I've done a talk on this for people who might've seen it.
00:54:59.980
Well, that guy, I was like, yo, if you let me come back, I promise that I'll bring as
00:55:04.480
many people with me as I can and like be real and like do my shit for real this time,
00:55:08.640
not just pose and be pretty and be a model and stay in the little box of, Hey, cute white
00:55:14.260
girl, this is what you're supposed to do with your life, which I was doing before.
00:55:17.940
So I was like, no, I'm coming back and I'll do what I think's right.
00:55:21.520
And, uh, yeah, that's why I talk about drugs in one video.
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I know that America, North America is very overdrugged.
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Experienced it myself when I could have gotten real treatment.
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Like, I, I just kind of feel like I see different perspectives on shit.
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I mean, I look, I think it's always good to have different.
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Different perspectives and, um, yeah, I mean, I appreciate you coming here and thinking
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about, you know, some of this stuff with us and, you know, sharing kind of, you know,
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Cause yeah, there's just a lot of heat out there.
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You know, there's a lot of heat about, you know, uh, just about the video and just what
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Uh, I think this will be in some articles, but for people listening, uh, that are like,
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Oh, you stole this from him and you're, you're using it for, what am I using it for?
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Like it was an instant, uh, label deal instantly and they get money, like a remix, they get
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So it is making money on the YouTube side, but that goes to him.
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Someone was like, Oh, well, what are the song splits on this?
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And yeah, it was just, it was just a piece of art being expressed and that's it.
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So there was no like thievery intended or I'm going to steal his views.
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It's like, how you're giving me way too much credit.
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How am I going to steal any, anything from that?
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I, I'm surprised any shine came this way from that.
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Do you feel like it's, um, that being not even from America, like originally from Canada,
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that people give you an even tougher time to come to America and then like discuss like,
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you know, or comment on what's going on in America, not that you're not allowed to whatever,
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There's a lot of similarities, but there's definitely the race tension.
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The racial tension is so much larger in America.
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That's why I want to have the round table and sit down.
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Like I, if I have black friends from other countries that are not from America, um, they have a,
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Um, you know, like my black friends that are from Jamaica or black friends that are from
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I mean, there's the look, there's a ton of, you know, there's a ton of, there's always
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It's always good to hear different people's, different people's perspectives.
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Chris, do we have a couple of calls that came in for Nicole?
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Um, we got a couple, let's pull some up right now.
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And Toms, they say they buy, um, a pair for you, a pair for somebody else.
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But I've never met that person or know anything like that.
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They should put a thing in it so you know if that's real.
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Um, just want to say what's up and blesses to all of you out there listening.
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On the Nicole Arbor thing, I love the fact that she came out and blasted all fat people.
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Cause I myself was fat at one point and got the courage to lose all the weight and, you
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And yeah, there's no need for anyone to be big, guys.
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We need to get off our asses and motivate ourselves a little more.
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I know that, like, I mean, I see a lot of people, you know, I struggle with addiction.
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I know a lot of people that, you know, for some people it's an addiction.
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Addicted to, you know, having bugles, having, you know, pies, pieces of pie, leftovers, other
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People like having real snacks, late night snacks, mid-morning, daytime, afternoon, night
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She would wake up in the middle of the night and put a bunch of jelly beans and chocolate
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Do you feel like sometimes you're, or this is what I, this is, that it's just, it's more,
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It's not going to, like, do you feel like it can't help because there's just so many more
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little, like, there's more to some of these problems?
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And I have millions of, literally millions, 700 million people have watched my videos in
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And millions of people have reached out and been like, that thing you said that time changed
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So like, you know, I catch some heat sometimes.
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I don't care because I turned around and go, wow, I helped all those people's lives.
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These people over here, they're not on those unnecessary drugs.
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Well, I mean, I'm a cheerleader, like, for real.
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And if, you know, yeah, I mean, it's like, who knows how people can be reached, right?
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Like, some people may need, you know, hand-holding and some people may need, you know, something
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And then some people may just, you know, they may just need to see somebody just shoot them
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And then I'm sure that, like you said, it's helped a lot of people.
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But I could also see how some people would be like, oh, that's not for me.
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But that's the difference of, let's say we're hurt because we're all hurt, right?
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And all my videos stem from like, okay, I see a problem.
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So, if I'm hurt, you might need physio for the same thing that I need a painkiller for,
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the same thing that you just need to go for a walk until your muscles are better.
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So, I just think it's different pills for different people.
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Well, we definitely live in a place where it's like, yeah, we want to find things that offend
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There's a lot of people out there that wake up every day and want to.
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This is Scuba Steve down here in Houston, Texas.
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I wanted to know if she could tell us more about her depression and then also about the myths
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I understand that they also have a casting recliner and casting love seat.
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Really came out when after the car accident and it came to fruition through that stuff.
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But obviously, depression is a multi-layered beast.
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And I made a video on how to defeat and treat depression, which also went psycho-viral.
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People thought it was very controversial as well because I told people you can get better.
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And a lot of times people don't want to hear that.
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I mean, look, yeah, it's kind of almost like shock therapy a little bit, some of which
01:03:15.480
But when it comes to depression, Mr. Scuba Steve, if that's your real name, it's probably
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Yeah, I'm a little skeptical if he's the actual Scuba Steve.
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And I really think that our mindset is so important.
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Like our mind is like the strongest tool we have.
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So if you believe that you're not going to get better, you will not.
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And the difference between me and a bunch of people that were being treated at these
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crazy chronic pain clinics at the same time is the main doctor said to me, do you
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Because if you don't leave, he's like, you won't.
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He's like, you are already working against all these odds.
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And I switched my mindset, put sticky notes all over my whole house that said, you're
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Like everywhere I could look, stopped watching negative shit, only watch positivity.
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I do three sermons a day that I listen to online or whatever.
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And when you start actually like dealing with your real stuff, then you can get better.
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You can't just take a pill and expect that you're better.
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Could you understand how if somebody saw one of your videos and they, it did not work
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for them, you could understand how they would be upset.
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I mean, you could understand how people would look at a video and be like, oh, that's, you
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know, you know, that's mean or something that you could understand it.
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But that video in particular, I give it a hundred percent Nicole Arbor seal and fuck
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You, you come back to me after you try the things I told you and tell me they didn't
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Like I firmly believe that you can defeat depression.
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I think everybody can defeat depression or at least treat it to where you have a way better
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And yeah, that's again, like, and that's a funny video and people are like, oh shit, that's
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I mean, some people don't want to hear things, you know, and there's a lot of stuff on the internet
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that people, I mean, that's one thing about the end.
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It's like, it's full of stuff that people want to hear and stuff that they don't want
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But do you feel like you, like, does that get addictive in the way you're going to have
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Like if you have the next video is about how to cure racism, it sounds like, I just don't
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These ideas are real concepts, real thoughts, and they need to be out there.
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And I, if I thought them and they shouldn't be out there, then I probably wouldn't be
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Because just looking at my history, it's like all of the times that I say the thing that
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I'm really, I really feel a lot of people get helped by it, whether I have to stand
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I mean, if we still, yeah, if we're here and we don't say or try and, if we don't share
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I mean, I, you know, I hope that the long-term picture is, is, um, is good, you know?
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I just, like, I don't believe that I could come into, like, I've done this so many times.
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At the first one, people were like, yeah, it's a fluke, blonde chick, shut up.
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Second one, yeah, okay, she couldn't do it again.
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I had, like, 12 in the first few months, and then people were like, oh, it's still a fluke.
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Now I'm like, okay, fuck you, it's not a fluke.
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I just, like, I, I have a message behind what I'm doing.
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I have a list of societal issues at my house on my whiteboard, and I, I'm just going to
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And what gives you the, the right to be able to do that?
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You think just, obviously, you just have a voice and anybody can?
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I actually think we have a responsibility that if you see a problem and you know how to
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fix it, or you think you can help, then you have to do that.
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Sometimes I feel like I maybe do like bravery in some areas, you know, I like bravery to
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sometimes to speak about certain stuff or to think about certain things.
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I think I'm still learning a lot about myself, you know?
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And if you don't take some risks and you don't do things, then where do you end up?
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You know, I mean, you just end up not knowing, you know, you end up probably not.
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I mean, the only way to get out of a fishbowl is to be, you know, kind of, you know, tempt
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You know, you got to kind of see what's going on.
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I mean, it's definitely, you know, it's super brave.
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You might be the maybe, I mean, you're the first female guest we've had.
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I don't yet, but there's a bunch coming up and then I'm working on the live tour right
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Like, every single time we have like a meeting on the show and we're going through the script,
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I'm crying and then everybody's crying and I'm like, oh, this is fun.
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So, there's like, there's myself, it starts out one way and then we take you a totally
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different direction, but it's funny as fuck and super topical and really interactive with
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We're going to be touring everywhere, but you can just keep following you.
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Not yet, unfortunately, but we're going to be going to across the US and Australia and UK
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Like, if you had to compare yourself to like another artist, you know?
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I'm on some new shit, but like, I think I'm a mashup of a Tony Robbins with a Carlin with...
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I think I'm an old school entertainer where they used to do everything, like a Dick Van
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That's, I think, I want to sing and dance and act and write and be funny and do all of
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the stuff and I have motivational stuff coming up too and I have a motivational program.
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I don't even know why pigeons would sit in holes.
01:10:01.280
Well, I appreciate you coming on and those are some big names.
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Those are big names that you listed and, you know, yeah.
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Like, you can't be a politician without being willing to stand in the fire and, like, I really
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I just think she's so honest and multifaceted and I just think it's cool that she does everything.
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And then, like, Michelle Obama, she just, like, she took that job that she was given and
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And she ran a home and she ran a white house behind the scenes.
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And you know that her husband was busy, but she kept that shit together and you know that
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And she started all these really cool initiatives.
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Like, and she still is such, like, a model of what you can be.
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I thought one of the greatest things that I've seen probably in my life is, was probably,
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Like, because if you're, like, a black child growing up, like, and you look at, like, the
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White House and you've all, you know, you see, like, oh, a black man can be a president,
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Like, I used to think when I was young and they had commercials for Disney World on the
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television and it was always white kids at Disney World.
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I just remember thinking, like, black kids can't go to Disney World, like, you know,
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just because that's what the commercial showed us, you know?
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It's like, and they probably weren't, you know, thinking that way.
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They were just probably thinking this is the clientele that, you know, like...
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It's, like, especially the things that we see and the things that, you know, that we
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see are, you know, they can really inspire people, you know?
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And, like, Jay-Z and, like, I love business, too.
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Like, I don't know all of the directions I'm going to go.
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Like, I have some feature films right now that people are, you know, aiming to buy for
01:12:04.560
I have a live show that I'm selling to Vegas that's a crazy-ass show that I think people
01:12:20.760
And I look to someone like a Jay-Z or, like, a Diddy who, they started with the music,
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or if I start with, like, with the comedy, and then you spiral it out to all these other
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Well, thanks for coming in and talking about us with the video.
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I'm super curious to see how the next one goes.
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I just, I guess I'm stuck somewhere in between, like, she's definitely brave, and just how,
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like, what it feels like to have that controversy, because I don't feel uncomfortable.
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For me, it feels so, that feels uncomfortable to me.
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So, for you to be able to wear that, it just is, like, it's interesting.
01:13:08.220
So, my friend that was in here earlier, Olivia, I know we're wrapping up.
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She was in Wonder Woman, and she's in the video, too.
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And we were both talking the other day about that scene in Wonder Woman, where there's fire
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going on on this side, and there's fire going on on that side, and there's, like, the dead
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Like, I just get that little moment of, okay, let's just Wonder Woman this shit.
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Do you feel like you have anything to lose, or no?
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I think what I have to lose is my self-respect for myself if I don't do what I am inspired
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And if people, yeah, if you don't do what you feel like you can do, if you don't try,
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then, I mean, no matter what it is, it probably doesn't end well for any of us, you know?
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Nicole, thanks so much for coming in and hanging out with us.
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And we'll put all her links to where she's headed below.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jonathan Kite, and welcome to Kite Club, a podcast where I'll
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