This Past Weekend with Theo Von - Robin Tran

00:00:00.000 what's up guys welcome to uh this past whatever today is we have a guest a guest coming in we're

00:00:06.000 in studio today and we have a guest coming in uh robin tran and she is a comedian and she is also

00:00:13.940 transgender and i'm not going to pretend like you know that's not part of the reason why i want her

00:00:18.260 to come in uh because i want to i don't know just see what's cracking you know besides her

00:00:25.520 you know sexual origination so uh so anyway we got robin tran coming in we just shot a pilot

00:00:34.320 together down in louisiana and we got to spend some time around each other and some of it was

00:00:39.620 just some of the conversation was interesting and fascinating and i thought maybe we would capture

00:00:43.300 some of that today for you guys thank you guys for listening as always thank you gray block pizza

00:00:48.040 1811 pico boulevard on the way to the beach gray block you know get that hit

00:00:55.520 uh thanks for being here today thanks so much for having me yeah sorry i'm just do i seem stressed

00:01:06.760 out no but now uh i can tell you that i'm stressed out are you good yeah we're both stressed out that's

00:01:12.060 great what's causing what's causing you stress today is being alive you know

00:01:15.320 being out of my comfort zone i mean it's almost like do you live out of your comfort zone no man i've

00:01:24.320 i did nothing for literally like three years and then i started doing everything oh wow so it's like

00:01:30.580 i keep missing my bed but then when i'm in bed i'm like no i gotta get the fuck out of here and do

00:01:34.940 something i gotta get going i'm actually like ambitious for the first time in my life nice yeah i quit

00:01:40.060 marijuana like six months ago i think that's what happened oh that'll change yeah one of my best

00:01:44.120 friends uh quit marijuana and says started one of the biggest clothing companies in the world oh my

00:01:48.500 god really yeah geez so things can happen um you um you were depressed what was causing the depression

00:01:55.320 you feel like um half my family i found out actually this year half my family has bipolar disorder

00:02:02.360 like in vietnam even like it's it's just like a chemical imbalance and probably i probably i had a

00:02:10.180 really traumatic childhood you know my dad drank a lot and um my mom had bipolar what he drank do you

00:02:16.720 remember just beer just like you'd have like 10 beers a night yeah and then uh was he a bowler or no

00:02:22.800 what's that was he a bowler like a league bowler no i don't think he knows what bowling is even

00:02:28.200 oh wow yeah it's crazy to be drinking that much beer and not know about bowling yeah i know um

00:02:33.860 yeah at least we would have had fun if you yeah if you knew about bowling right yeah but my mom and

00:02:38.780 my mom would like just be gone for a while because she had to go to like a hospital because you know

00:02:44.020 it was undiagnosed bipolar oh wow yeah she had that yeah and so at that point it was just kind of

00:02:49.720 like willy-nilly they didn't know i mean that's probably when they were still putting people on valium and

00:02:53.280 things like that or no yeah yeah i i well it's like not talked about in vietnamese culture

00:02:58.940 like so they just like oh you know we don't know what's wrong with you you know and then it took

00:03:03.620 like years for them to finally go here's some medication you're like you're sick in the head

00:03:07.960 yeah this is real funny stuff right yeah sorry this is yeah this isn't funny but it's interesting

00:03:13.820 supposed to be a funny podcast it's so bad you know no it's it's just supposed to be a podcast you

00:03:18.780 know it's supposed to be just a conversation you know we don't have to talk about anything in

00:03:21.760 particular i just thought you know it'd be really interesting you and i just worked together on a

00:03:26.040 pilot right yeah in louisiana yeah and you know um and you were like one of the most unique people

00:03:33.760 i've probably ever met because you are how do you what is the term transgender yeah i'm transgender

00:03:39.020 vietnamese lesbian i am a lot of things and you know what sucks is to be that to be all that and to

00:03:46.780 also be self-aware because like i wish i wasn't self-aware you know i wish that i didn't know what

00:03:51.460 i look like all the time wow because like if i wasn't me and i saw me i'd be like what the fuck

00:03:56.340 that's the comedian side of you yeah like like i told you like sometimes i look in the mirror and i

00:04:01.980 like i get startled like i forgot that i'm transgender because i was someone else for 28 years

00:04:06.980 who were you for 28 years it was robert robert yeah really angry little asian dude just would yell at

00:04:14.420 audiences for not laughing and just shit just like really overcompensating for something you know

00:04:20.060 yeah and you don't see i mean i don't feel like you see a lot of violent asian really i mean that

00:04:25.620 except maybe like in old movies and stuff yeah i don't know a lot of asians i feel like are really

00:04:30.800 seem to be you know real like happy people you get the filipinos or i think they're even nicknamed

00:04:35.940 the happy people right and then you have the japanese which are kind of you know a little bit

00:04:41.540 kind of electronic it seems like a lot of times like they have you know like you bust them open a

00:04:45.700 bunch of gigabytes would fly out can i tell you a secret yeah i can't tell asians apart man you

00:04:51.280 can't no and you're asian yeah i'm a bad asian dude wow is there bad asians yeah i'm one i think

00:04:58.500 you know i kind of broke i kind of did everything i wasn't supposed to do like i didn't go to medical

00:05:03.640 school and i didn't i wasn't the man you know i didn't stay a dude like i didn't do anything right

00:05:09.220 that's true because in some asian cultures that they want to they want the boy yeah oh and you

00:05:15.240 you're like you're gonna be like i'll show them i am a boy red rover red rover sin of vagina right

00:05:22.340 over yeah exactly yeah so when did you get um because i mean it's just fascinating to me and one

00:05:28.920 thing that i love about you like you have this this comedy bit and we'll put it at the bottom of the

00:05:32.500 video today and the audio a link where you were explaining to your mother about how you felt

00:05:39.000 um and is it a woman trapped in a man's body is that how you felt or how did you kind of feel

00:05:44.340 i just felt like when when i actually like i got off like medicate you know like i was medicated for

00:05:51.300 the first time in my life for antidepressants for antidepressants and you know for the bipolar

00:05:55.640 and i was singing like this song this girly song and i just like usually i roll up the window and i do

00:06:01.440 it quietly but i'm like no man i'm fucking happy and it's when i did that for the first time in my life

00:06:06.360 like dude my whole life flashed before my eyes like me as a kid wearing pink and like

00:06:11.100 wanting to play with like this pink carousel set like these little horses you know like i remember

00:06:15.860 i kept remembering that and like wearing jewelry and like i'd be in theater art you know drama class

00:06:20.740 and they put makeup on me and i would just leave it on like for days and it's like the yeah these

00:06:26.300 these memories came back and i was a lot of clues kind of like clues yeah and then i was like man you

00:06:30.940 know if i was a woman my whole life would make sense like it wouldn't be a good life right it

00:06:35.860 would be a life and you know life is like life right but and then it made sense and i just it

00:06:41.720 was like a religious experience dude like i don't know how religious people feel but it must be kind

00:06:46.300 of like that my whole body shivered and i started crying dude i cried for like half an hour man and

00:06:51.660 like in my car and then i had to go clock back into work oh man i was like yeah a lot of chicks have

00:06:56.580 done that dude yeah you know that's right i mean at that point you definitely qualify yeah no but no

00:07:02.740 that's fascinating to have like a moment where you're like this did you almost feel like you like

00:07:07.360 you're who you really were like erupted out of you or something yeah i think that's exactly true and

00:07:12.300 you know i just remembered this i i never looked at people in the eyes until i came out i i avoided eye

00:07:18.660 contact with everyone except for my girlfriend like i would just look down and i never knew why i was

00:07:24.000 like i think subconsciously it was like if they see me they might know it about me but i didn't

00:07:29.360 know what it was you know what i mean so that's fascinating so you're afraid if you were looking

00:07:34.880 at somebody if they saw that they might see the truth in you that you didn't even know maybe yeah

00:07:42.040 that's exactly right yeah yeah that's so bizarre i mean it's it's not bizarre that's not the word i know

00:07:48.800 it's no it is i think it's so uh but i think that's so real i think because that's a reason

00:07:53.900 why a lot of times we don't look people in the eyes because we're afraid that they're going to

00:07:58.160 see our truth you know they're afraid that we're going to see that you know that we're hurting or

00:08:01.760 that we are um confused or uncertain or sad or uh yeah you know it's that's just so it's so what was

00:08:10.440 the song oh it was like an indie pop song probably people don't know it it was a rilo kiley song i don't

00:08:15.960 know if you know who that is yeah it's very girly it's it's gay it is it's like that it's raining men

00:08:22.960 song no no it's kind of it's a different kind of gay it's like celebrating like this different

00:08:28.500 femininity not you ever hear patrice o'neill talk about it's raining men uh-uh he says that you know

00:08:34.320 when you're a guy and you're singing karaoke you got to change the lyrics and you're like it's raining

00:08:38.600 stuff it's raining things one of my favorite bits it's raining stuff um so it's kind of interesting

00:08:50.840 like i was noticing some stuff and so uh i'm robin and i were working and you were robert and now

00:08:56.780 you're robin yeah yeah and what and one thing that's so neat and i appreciate this is like you

00:09:01.660 don't make me feel like i can't talk to you about these things you know like you don't make me because

00:09:06.100 sometimes i get this vibe and this is just me being honest and this isn't trying to me be like

00:09:10.620 i know anything but i get a vibe sometimes by some people that are you know are out of what would some

00:09:19.440 people would perceive as the norm right sometimes when you try to engage with them about a conversation

00:09:23.380 they take that as being judgmental even like asking questions and stuff or being curious and i think it

00:09:28.960 makes some people who are curious about stuff afraid to ask you know yeah i know those people i mean

00:09:33.640 i actually i deal with that too i think there's like infighting within the community about how to

00:09:40.020 talk to other people and stuff um i don't know man i want to say this but i don't you know not say

00:09:46.620 man i say stuff on here all the time it's like a lot of the white ones really really mad like because

00:09:53.100 they they didn't have the racial discrimination before so when they transition there's like this new

00:10:00.460 like they're being discriminated against now oh and so like it's like a fucking they're taking it

00:10:05.260 all on at the same time but for me i'm just like oh yeah discrimination i've i've experienced that

00:10:09.800 before i'm just adding on to it but i'm not down not downloading the entire thing you know it's just a

00:10:14.320 theory of mine i don't know if it's fucking true oh i think it's really fascinating because you're

00:10:19.340 saying like oh well if i was black or a vietnamese um i've already experienced some discrimination

00:10:24.440 yeah so now that i'm switching genders yeah fuck sure like yeah yeah it's it's still hard but it's

00:10:31.480 like i'm i'm like i kind of prepared myself for it you know just by being vietnamese you're like oh

00:10:36.840 already you're like i beat vietnamese now i'll take on the world yeah i love that exactly that was the

00:10:43.680 plan all along but for a white person they're just like oh fuck dude everything was great yeah man

00:10:50.780 it's just a theory everybody i do not know no it's interesting that's a that's a really

00:10:55.900 interesting theory man it's so funny when you when you were talking about um you know looking people

00:11:00.920 in the eyes and them seeing did you know that what you were afraid that they might see in you was like

00:11:06.340 uh like um your sexuality or did you have any clue i had a feeling it was like because like i you

00:11:16.720 know what i i do i do this with my hands when i'm in private you know this is this that's it man

00:11:22.480 fuck dude i do that sometimes i fucking love doing this man it's like my favorite thing and i think

00:11:26.400 i was like you can't hear on the radio she's showing like a kind of a like a hanging wrist

00:11:30.920 yeah yeah you know like a yeah like a limp wrist or like a walking dead extra yeah yeah exactly

00:11:36.440 and uh and i think i was like man i'm gay am i gay but i'm not i don't like dudes you know but

00:11:43.040 i'm not i was like i would always look at myself like you're not straight man like so it makes sense

00:11:49.180 that i'm a lesbian because like if people say you're not a lesbian like and they look at me i'm

00:11:53.880 like well do you think i'm straight then because i don't like dudes you know like would you look at

00:11:58.520 me and say that's a straight person you know what i mean like did you have to chart it out because

00:12:03.180 it sounds like you know for somebody that's not a good math person it's you're adding in some

00:12:08.460 different elements yeah it no when i when i came out i was like this is gonna be fucking complicated

00:12:14.160 for people because you came out and you said i said i'm a woman but i didn't say i'm a lesbian

00:12:20.480 because i felt weird saying it at first you know because of my voice you know like i'm glad there's

00:12:27.400 a video on this podcast because like being transgender is not really great for audio podcasts you know

00:12:32.240 people are like what the fuck i don't i'm confused you know and i remember there's a little girl

00:12:37.300 one saw me at an open mic and she goes uh hey that girl sounds like a boy and i was like oh that's

00:12:42.360 great you got it completely right the little girl got it right um what so just because so we get back

00:12:49.740 on what was the bit you the bit you have about when you explain your coming out to my mom coming

00:12:54.620 out to your mom yeah just like that she doesn't speak vietnamese and i don't speak english so i had

00:12:58.900 to like be like mom in vietnam she doesn't speak english yeah do they have boy born boy brain girl and

00:13:05.860 she's like what and i'm like born boy brain girl she was okay i don't know sometime you know and i'm

00:13:13.420 like okay me that i don't want to do that do you want me to do the whole no it's good we'll post it

00:13:18.180 below it's just a great story yeah it's it's just so interesting for you it's like born boy brain girl

00:13:24.780 it's like such it's like the simplest yeah you know it's a simple way to put it for somebody yeah it's

00:13:29.660 you have to make it simple because if you don't speak the same language it has to be like the most

00:13:33.820 simple words and also i don't know the complicated way to explain it yeah so i just like would just

00:13:38.620 yell it for an hour until she got it that's how i came up which is also a very popular vietnamese

00:13:44.900 form of communication exactly yeah they're very quiet like amongst strangers but to each other it's

00:13:50.240 like man why are you guys yelling at each other you guys having fun or are you guys mad at each other

00:13:55.060 sounds like the same thing yeah they're very game of thrones i'm like who's a lannister in this

00:14:00.160 motherfucker i thought it was nap time right yeah um that's so wild do you feel because i'm

00:14:07.140 trying to think so we went down to louisiana together right and i'm trying to think of how

00:14:12.980 i think and feel about like like how if i if if there are certain things that i think of you as a

00:14:21.480 certain gender or you know like if without even choosing to yeah you know not if not a judgment but

00:14:26.740 just like because i think of you as a young lady yeah you know um but i guess sometimes i would

00:14:36.000 treat you like a man right is that kind of a common like do you notice any things not in the even just

00:14:45.560 in the way i behave towards you but i think um i noticed it more with like you didn't know me before

00:14:51.140 my transition right so like people that know me after yeah they treat me with like a little more

00:14:55.940 of this respect because i think i think it's the voice i really do i think like i i present pretty

00:15:01.780 feminine and i still i not completely but it's easier for people right but what i noticed is that

00:15:08.520 from people before my transition you know like um at open mics the comedians like hang around in a

00:15:13.980 circle and they talk shit on each other they don't do that with me anymore because they're too scared

00:15:17.880 and i think it's like a loss you know like oh man i love talking shit yeah but they're afraid of like

00:15:23.620 stepping on eggshells and saying the wrong thing and misgendering me and stuff because they knew me

00:15:28.700 as robert right so it's harder for them i think when you dream at night do you dream like as do you

00:15:36.220 notice if you dream like in a male or female perspective or if that's changed i don't i don't dream as

00:15:41.040 myself usually so yeah i don't know sometimes i think i have i am robert but you know i don't know

00:15:47.780 do you remember like a first night that you went to sleep and felt like you were

00:15:51.540 a woman because i mean i think yeah just saying do you i don't know probably slept with a smile for

00:15:57.820 the first time yeah you know oh i can't imagine how like relax like freeing it would be yeah you

00:16:03.540 know because there were times in my life or there have been times in my life where you know i was

00:16:07.580 having such a tough time like relating getting into a relationship and being like comfortable in a

00:16:12.540 relationship that i thought i might be gay you know and i'm like well there's something

00:16:16.620 you know i mean after like there was nine years where i wasn't in any sort of a relationship with

00:16:22.980 a woman i was dating yeah you know i was jerking off on you know mutually jerking off after people

00:16:27.940 had agreed everybody was okay with me jerking off in the room great yeah um you know with women and

00:16:32.800 stuff like that and doing some sex but i wasn't you know i wasn't able to like love and lock down

00:16:39.220 anything there yeah and so i was like man well maybe i you know could i be gay and i just don't

00:16:46.060 know it like i'm such a bad judge of character yeah that i don't even know if i'm gay yeah um

00:16:53.080 but then i realized over time that for me i do desire a strong connection a male connection but what

00:17:01.080 i want is like a brotherly connection yeah and that's something i've always really you know missed

00:17:06.300 in a fatherly connection so i really gravitate towards some moments like that with other males

00:17:11.640 to have some camaraderie yeah um but that you know i was just i was just lacking a connection with my

00:17:20.260 own mother and so that's you know hampered the ability to connect with women beyond anything

00:17:25.920 sexual you know right yeah you know that's really i feel kind of bad for guys that you know you can't

00:17:31.160 have that camaraderie because it's like oh it's kind of like oh are we gay you know like you can't

00:17:35.220 just i still have some male qualities just out of habit and there was a guy that um they went used

00:17:40.580 to go to this wellness center you know for like to get better and there was this guy that um helped

00:17:45.680 me every day we talked every day about comedy and stuff we became like best friends but i never hugged

00:17:50.820 him it was because it's like in my head i'm like is that gay to hug him even though i'm not like i'm

00:17:55.240 like a woman in my head but still feels like the old guy is still there like just lurking just can't

00:18:00.880 be friends you know what i mean like it's we're too close and we're not like are we supposed to

00:18:05.260 date now you know like it's that feeling yeah guys don't the guys aren't like allowed to get

00:18:09.980 close with each other like that yeah yeah there is there's like a weird thing sometimes you know

00:18:14.940 like if i pat my buddies on the back i'll do it be like oh i can't pat him again today right

00:18:19.920 yeah you you used it up for the day i used my pad up today because you know that's the pat rule

00:18:26.320 you know what i'm saying i can thumbs up i'm from real close but that's just you know i can do

00:18:32.220 point blank range thumbs up all day but i can't i can't do an extra pat yeah was there some strange

00:18:38.980 moments like i mean this is just do you ever feel like in the future we will all be that things will

00:18:51.140 be more fluid and that you were like a pioneer on this sort of horizon of of you know gendership

00:18:59.400 if that makes any sense you know i i was thinking about that and it's either going to be like everyone

00:19:03.660 is kind of a flu fluid or that it's going to be so many that you can pick from or something

00:19:08.280 but as for the pioneer thing i actually just like my my dream is for it to be boring you know to not

00:19:15.900 be like like you're brave or to be like you're a you're the worst thing like the youtube comments

00:19:22.080 were probably for this video i'm gonna be like i'm not gonna read them you know and uh like that

00:19:27.020 you can't have you can't be a woman if you got a dick like comment number one thumbs up a lot of

00:19:32.240 thumbs up for it you know i already know they didn't even watch the video you know um yeah they

00:19:37.040 didn't even watch the video but i also have the other one like where it's like you're so you're so

00:19:41.780 brave and it's like oh man don't call me brave man like i'd rather just live my life like i i told

00:19:47.520 you i forget i'm transgender sometimes like i'm just like out and oh why is people why are people

00:19:51.800 looking at me oh fuck i'm wearing a dress oh my god i fucking forgot man like i'm already depressed

00:19:57.980 about something else and now i gotta think about this shit you know yeah yeah i mean you really like

00:20:04.340 for a comedian already to be afflicted with whatever it is that makes us want to be comedians

00:20:09.600 yeah you know whatever like toil or like broken like piping or whatever inside of us that

00:20:15.980 you know makes us covet that constant attention yeah and then to be like oh well yeah i know what

00:20:24.760 i'm gonna add on to this i had to throw away all my old material did you yeah that was really i was

00:20:30.920 up on stage and i just said it on stage when i was like hey i don't i'm not joking guys but

00:20:35.140 i feel like a woman and i i don't know if i'm gonna start wearing skirts because i'm lazy

00:20:39.480 and that's uh i don't know what i'm gonna say tonight so have a good night everyone and that

00:20:45.340 was it i put the mic back in the mic stand and left like people were like holy shit like

00:20:50.160 is robert kidding and i'm like no i'm not andy kaufman dude i don't do that i'm kidding shit you

00:20:55.140 know and that was how i came out to my comedian friends they just did it on stage did have you

00:21:01.340 ever has anybody ever accused of it being like a thing oh yeah sure like um i think someone was

00:21:09.020 making fun of me i forgot who it was where it's like robin's gonna just start adding afflictions

00:21:13.380 like uh just to you know get more people to go get behind her like right take off a leg yeah next

00:21:18.940 week she can't walk you know like she's blind now like just adding on more she's a service animal

00:21:25.880 you're like really the fuck all right robin you're taking it too far yeah of course um

00:21:32.200 do you was it were you attracted to women at a certain point in your life

00:21:37.500 yeah i feel like you were yeah i was always attracted to women and i always felt like one

00:21:42.020 i remember thinking when i was a kid like man i wish i could be a lesbian dude like out of

00:21:46.280 everything else like oh i just loved like i saw like uh ellen degenerate kiss some woman on tv

00:21:53.160 and dude that was like like i i got so horny when i saw that it was like you know like when you

00:22:00.100 remember like the first thing you saw where i'm like i don't know what jacking off is yet but if i

00:22:04.260 can jack off it's gonna be to that kind of shit so even to this day just women making out i'm just

00:22:09.000 like fuck man i gotta jack off like so like that's my favorite thing you know i don't think that was

00:22:14.740 what you were asking me but no i think it's well it's like i mean i guess i just wanted to know

00:22:20.580 kind of yeah where your attraction was you know because i mean because then you have to kind of

00:22:26.540 i'm sure like as you're trying to figure out what your place is or what your escape from whatever you

00:22:33.100 know you did you feel trapped i always felt trapped yeah yeah i think i think you're right yeah

00:22:38.860 i don't know how else to to put it but it's just like i just felt like like an escape room you ever

00:22:45.700 been to an escape room no i haven't been to one but you know what it is yeah it's like where there's

00:22:50.280 clues and then suddenly you get out but then it's just you and your friends back in the lobby of a

00:22:54.080 hilton or something yeah i kind of feel like i just wanted to scream and i didn't know why

00:22:58.860 i would say that's how it felt wow yeah and do you still feel some of that

00:23:05.900 no no i i know who i am now sometimes i get like the identity crisis of just like

00:23:13.400 who who am i like as a person who's not as depressed anymore because i'm kind of getting

00:23:18.380 over that too so you notice that this has helped you to depression yeah no no no that's separate

00:23:24.820 the two things are separate oh they are yeah that's what's so fucked up about it like um i'm

00:23:29.820 not as you know blown away by the gender thing anymore it's been three years i guess kind of

00:23:33.620 boring for me personally you know and then like i'm like okay now i'm a depressed transgender person

00:23:39.880 or whatever you know and then and then like the depression has lifted a little bit or a lot

00:23:44.360 so now i'm like well who am i if i'm not depressed i guess i just have to figure it out day by day

00:23:49.180 just do things you know and be active like i can't believe that i we did the thing in louisiana

00:23:54.420 yeah i can't believe i did i went from doing nothing to the most fun three days of my life

00:23:59.240 yeah it was really the most fun three days of my whole life yeah that's cool yeah i wish i you know

00:24:04.080 i uh yeah i mean there was a moment where you and i were driving like that grand marquee down on that

00:24:09.680 highway i mean because we went back to covington in my hometown i talked about this on a regular

00:24:13.700 podcast a little bit last week but i didn't tell them that you know i said i was there with another

00:24:18.520 comedian robin tran um but i didn't tell them that you know you had a sexual transition or you know

00:24:23.800 get in any of that um but i told them that i was back there and you know it was pretty wild and

00:24:29.080 that one dude was like remember him yeah it was fucking hilarious he was like oh my house look

00:24:37.300 can you say that get the fuck out of here get the fuck

00:24:43.220 and i was like we were down there and it was yeah we were just cruising all around like scully and

00:24:53.040 molder just like you know a recovering rural yeah guy and uh and a new transgender comedian you're

00:25:00.540 probably the first the craziest thing i've seen in that town yeah actually had a three-legged pony

00:25:04.360 growing up yeah okay maybe it was that she was a real beaut no you know i actually almost blew the

00:25:10.460 whole thing the first day i almost fucked it yeah you know my eyes a little red right now there's a

00:25:15.160 reason for that like half an hour before they were gonna pick me up i took what i think is my bladder

00:25:19.880 medication because i gotta pee a lot and i look at the pill dude it i took my fucking sleeping pill

00:25:24.680 no like and it's like it knocks you out after an hour and i just look at kate like i took a fucking

00:25:29.520 lunesta and she's like you gotta throw it up yeah throw it up right she's like a coach for

00:25:34.300 like the worst sport ever you know god i'm fucking throwing up oh she's on the all bulimia team yeah

00:25:39.120 like i'm over the toilet dude i'm fucking crying i'm like i blew it man i can't she's like this right

00:25:44.020 before they come to pick you up for the first day of shooting yeah she's like she's like put your

00:25:47.400 fucking finger down your throat i'm like gus fring from breaking bad like putting my finger down my

00:25:51.840 throat it's not nothing's working and she goes think of disgusting things think of fucking disgusting

00:25:56.420 things and that's not working she goes think of the most disgusting thing you can think of

00:26:00.820 and then i thought about eating my mom's pussy oh damn then then it all came out

00:26:07.060 i'm fucking crying because i'm thinking about it and then like 10 minutes later everyone picked me

00:26:13.380 up i'm like hey everyone like but in my head i'm like that was the most fucked up thing that ever

00:26:18.140 happened to me like i'm traumatized by it you know i'm it was the most traumatizing moment of my life

00:26:23.980 and then the most fun three days of my life here we go back to back yeah damn i never know anybody

00:26:29.360 just get all hopped up on lunesta yeah and then that's why i popped a blood vessel by throwing up

00:26:35.580 oh really yeah then i thought i was gonna die one time in chicago i if i eat tuna fish and gatorade at

00:26:41.040 the same time i'll fucking my throat closes up oh my god really i can't handle that much excitement

00:26:45.200 you know just fucking fish oil and uh you know whatever electrolytes electrolytes yeah wow my shit

00:26:51.480 will throw up just shut down so i literally was having a i was fucking crawling through the hall of a

00:26:56.480 hotel in chicago pulling on the dress of a cleaning lady and like had my hand down my throat

00:27:02.040 oh my god i think she wanted thought i wanted to do sex or some kind of sex act like this is the

00:27:06.780 weirdest uh mating call i've ever seen in my life he's crawling just holding my throat open yeah it's

00:27:12.660 like this is a weird yeah yeah yeah uh okay guy we'll upgrade you to a sweet

00:27:16.620 pipe down um do you feel sometimes like a do you feel like a woman now sometimes i feel like uh

00:27:27.440 like like man i feel like a woman but i'm fucking getting lazy like i don't i don't like i gotta put

00:27:35.240 makeup on and i gotta fucking wear dresses like i've done it for three years so like i started buying

00:27:39.560 like boy clothes again yeah oh just because yeah because a lot of women that ended up getting lazy

00:27:44.520 just by boy stuff yeah they're like oh i'm just a sports fan and it's like like a tomboy kind of

00:27:50.120 you know and uh i don't know kind of think like the initial novelty wore off and i mean novelty

00:27:55.900 not like oh this whole thing is like a like a stunt or anything like that but you know uh you you just

00:28:03.740 kind of get over the it's called gender euphoria and then you experience this gender euphoria and i think

00:28:09.780 when it goes away you're like okay and now i don't have to always wear a fucking dress can i just wear a

00:28:13.540 fucking t-shirt and jeans and like light makeup and stuff you know did you find yourself having

00:28:18.500 like really like overdressing like wearing like a bride's outfit a couple of days a week and stuff

00:28:23.540 yeah i i would overdress every time i just wear dresses and fucking nice clothes and these shoes

00:28:28.880 from be as lady as possible yeah from nordstrom's you know like just expensive shoes and shit like

00:28:34.720 was there guys that you like had before when you were robert that you were like oh that guy's kind

00:28:39.200 of cute that you were like you know just trying to just offering and just fucking chill and shit

00:28:44.040 like that or no oh you mean guys that i knew before yeah well oh but you were lesbians you

00:28:48.680 were attracted to women yeah well i mean i there are the other side though like there are some guys

00:28:54.060 that were like hey like they want to hit it well you know if i were attracted to you would that make

00:28:58.800 me gay you know hypothetically and i'm like it's weird hypothetical question that you know facebook

00:29:03.320 message me at three in the morning you know but like i don't know man you know i guess it doesn't

00:29:08.660 like if i'm a woman so it doesn't actually make you gay like i actually like had to look it up

00:29:13.740 isn't that weird gosh yeah if you like if you are a guy that dates transgender women you're not gay

00:29:19.460 hmm yeah so if i dated you i wouldn't be gay yeah people would think you are though right

00:29:24.800 everyone would call you gay so it's like you would be gay anyway well you know it's funny yeah i don't

00:29:29.120 feel like like if i feel like if here's a here's interesting i noticed this if you were sitting

00:29:33.940 here and you were a man yeah i would feel like oh if i dated robert yeah i would be gay right but

00:29:40.840 if i sitting here and i'm just thinking about you oh if i dated her yeah i might be you know a real

00:29:46.840 wild cat yeah you know what i'm saying i might be in the hunting rare game right but i uh you know

00:29:52.540 but i i don't i don't have the same feeling yeah that's that's kind of interesting yeah it is yeah

00:29:57.440 just because my total like you know if you put you next to a boy i'd be like oh well i would

00:30:01.580 you know i think a lot of people like on like i'll read periscope comments about me and stuff and

00:30:07.340 they're like ew what the fuck is that thing you know when people are like that mad i'm just like

00:30:12.120 all right dude like i i don't think it's true when people are like they hate trans people it means

00:30:17.220 they're attracted to them but the ones that get really fucking mad i'm like you kind of want to

00:30:21.060 fuck a transgender woman dude like why would you get that mad you know if people just went ill

00:30:25.040 yeah and i was like okay you just don't like how the way i look yeah but just the fuck that

00:30:29.760 what the fuck is that thing oh my god like you know like they're like their brains are gonna

00:30:33.980 explode you know like oh okay do you want to fuck me like nwo fans yeah like new world order fans

00:30:39.540 you press that and turn it back on uh new world order fans maybe i'm a huge wrestling fan are you

00:30:44.440 oh yeah dude i like i know more about wrestling than i do about anything else in my life combined

00:30:48.900 oh wow i've been watching wrestling since i was four years old um and how old are you now

00:30:53.140 i'm 31 dude i was a huge and this is a little bit for you but i was a huge the von ericks were

00:30:57.820 like a big family i know i know i know history yeah the pride of texas there was the texas tornado

00:31:03.220 yeah wwf and he like transferred over and yeah like the the like he would spin around and do a

00:31:08.940 clothesline right or a punch carry von eric carry von eric and he was the handsomest one outside of

00:31:13.800 that they got a little kind of animally looking yeah yeah one of the brothers look like a damn

00:31:17.940 sheep i thought like a tall sheep uh who was one of your favorite wrestlers growing up it was

00:31:22.320 always sean michaels man oh yeah hbk i think is the greatest wrestler like that ever lived

00:31:27.420 and marty janetti no it's so sad marty janetti is always like referenced even nowadays as like

00:31:33.720 if there's a tag team and one of them explodes and one of them doesn't they call him the marty

00:31:38.080 janetti of the oh isn't that yeah isn't that heartbreaking yeah both of them had nice hair do

00:31:42.980 you think it was something about wrestling that kind of had that that has that sort of trans appeal

00:31:47.900 to it in a weird way no i think you know what i think it's completely separate from gender i love

00:31:53.380 i love combat i don't know why you know i love roast battles and i love wrestling and there's a

00:31:59.420 movie called changing lanes with sam jackson and ben affleck and they're just like trying to one up

00:32:04.340 each other with like trying to fuck each other's lives up and i don't know why i just love that like

00:32:08.480 being boastful like i can fuck you up and i can back it up and the other guys like no i can fuck you

00:32:13.260 up and just watching them try to fuck each other up yeah i love it it's my favorite thing in the

00:32:18.360 world but i don't like people actually getting hurt so yeah that's why i like that it's like

00:32:23.000 staged that's why i can't watch like ufc like oh that guy's legs really broken man like the fun's

00:32:27.980 over man oh man you try to fuck that guy's wife and you pretend to hit each other oh that's what's

00:32:32.800 fucking awesome but like oh man that guy's legs became like rubber i'm like oh jesus man this is

00:32:38.100 fucking real can't deal with that do you were there things that you like more now after um

00:32:45.960 your transition that you didn't like before like do you notice no no i like pretty much all the same

00:32:51.780 things and uh i don't know like i still like wrestling as much as i ever did i was afraid i

00:32:57.540 would stop liking wrestling oh you know and then like what would i do it's so scary like yeah were

00:33:02.100 there things you were afraid like you of losing you know you're afraid you're gonna lose this or lose

00:33:06.040 that if you go into this dude if i lost wrestling i don't know what i would do with my time i spent i

00:33:10.700 spend you know wwe network i spent hours just watching that every day you know you know wrestlemania

00:33:16.340 which is like last week in louisiana you know i just i love it i love it more than it's like number

00:33:21.800 four on my list of things i love in my life like you know family my girlfriend me and like wrestling

00:33:26.420 yeah you fucking love that's most of america yeah i think you just described yeah um did

00:33:33.640 did you um did you experience like any loss of like friends or any connections that really changed

00:33:42.960 or evolved for the better in your life yeah i lost a lot of friends and uh i don't know some of it

00:33:48.860 wasn't because of the transgender thing but some of it was like when i came out like all of a sudden

00:33:53.660 10 people unfriended me right away and then like i posted a picture of me in a dress and some guy went

00:33:59.440 like some guy i knew in high school we knew each other for years and he and he went is this for

00:34:03.860 work or something and i went no man i'm a woman and fucking and he fucking unfriended me and i was

00:34:09.860 like fucking heartbroken well maybe his wife doesn't want to be all friends but another guy actually

00:34:16.080 looked at one of the pictures and he liked he liked like nine in a row you know when someone like

00:34:20.220 likes like a bunch of your pictures in a row and then one of them i was like really made up with

00:34:24.240 these big boots and he just he just went fuck you for this one robert and then and then unfriended me

00:34:30.180 so i think he like jerked off and felt bad you know what i mean like why would he like a bunch

00:34:35.200 of pictures and say fuck you for this one and then unfriend me right oh the boots dude a lot of people

00:34:39.780 have foot fetish you know oh yeah oh there's a guy around me growing up and he couldn't even come

00:34:44.220 unless a pair of justins were in the room i think i'm a lot of like regretful coming sessions i think

00:34:49.600 people have jerked off to me and then felt really embarrassed afterwards i think that's what i am

00:34:53.860 for people have you always jerked off to the same stuff oh no i jerk off to like weirder shit now

00:34:59.400 oh yeah oh yeah so you find that has that evolved or devolved no man i've jerked off to like my own

00:35:06.240 pictures really yeah i'm like oh man if i had a clone totally fuck it have you yeah it's cool i mean

00:35:15.820 i think it's unique i've never done it yeah when i was growing up they had a dude if we didn't even

00:35:19.820 have pornography when i was young you know we couldn't get any mags yeah but they had this dude

00:35:23.800 named nick and he would draw you a little picture of some cooter for the weekend you know yeah so for

00:35:28.420 four dollars you'd hit this dude nick up on friday you know or thursday night if you wanted a good

00:35:33.160 sketch you know because if he had that extra time to work on it man and then friday you get that hitter

00:35:38.560 you know and you jerk off all weekend i still think it's not as weird as jerking off to a selfie

00:35:43.940 but yeah whatever oh yours is definitely weirder i was just trying to make you feel a little less

00:35:49.000 uncomfortable no what is it about a selfie that can make you calm you think i was like man i never

00:35:54.780 looked like that before you know and then i'm really happy with how i look oh so you'll take a

00:35:59.180 really nice picture yeah and then jerk off to that yeah i don't i haven't done it for a while so maybe

00:36:04.500 my self-esteem is lower do you feel like one of my buddies used to get a cake yeah he used to get a cake

00:36:11.440 and put like you're a good guy matt on it he'd get that written on it and then eat it at home by

00:36:15.520 himself yeah it's kind of like that yeah yeah it's kind of like that but with your dick yeah yeah so

00:36:20.580 do you still have a penis yeah and do you take drugs like what is that whole kind of thing like or is it

00:36:25.760 that that's not even part of it and this is just good information for people because there's a lot of

00:36:29.960 people that don't know yeah i i am actually um afraid to take any extra medication to like hormones and

00:36:37.020 stuff because i take a lot of medication for the bipolar okay so i don't take any medication and i

00:36:42.800 haven't gotten any surgery it's just more i just dress up and i just like try to you know make my

00:36:47.720 hair look as feminine as possible okay yeah do you feel like it could have just been and i don't mean

00:36:56.420 this in a bad way but i'll just mean this in like in a curious way that it could have this could be like

00:37:01.440 some part of the bipolar thing do you ever have to think about that though do you question that ever

00:37:06.800 or is it not even the same no i think what i think it actually kind of bothers me that i think

00:37:12.140 that's the misconception because um like uh i think like it's in america it's hard to look at people

00:37:19.740 like with multiple oppressions you know it's always like well that guy's oppressed because he's

00:37:25.840 you know black but maybe he's also bipolar you know but people only can see black you know or like

00:37:31.540 you know like when you look at mental health issues like on tv it's mostly white people because

00:37:35.660 that's like they can only look at one at a time like if you have vietnamese and bipolar it's like

00:37:40.880 too much like they can't look at and transgender whoa like pick one because we can only focus on one

00:37:45.840 on tv so like mine are all separate like i don't i don't think it's like related at all you know what

00:37:53.500 i mean right so you don't know but you don't feel like inside of you like and i don't know what it

00:37:57.720 feels like to be bipolar you know i've seen some friends that have come down and been afflicted

00:38:00.940 with it as they got a little bit older out of high school but you didn't think like oh maybe

00:38:06.140 i'm just bipolar at first or something there wasn't any of that no i i thought like um um

00:38:12.740 maybe this will help and it helped my depression for a while like i got out of it for a while and

00:38:18.480 then you know it came back because you know i wasn't taking the right medication but just coming

00:38:22.580 out helped me like for three months i didn't need anything i was just like really happy

00:38:26.220 so can you do you feel like you can see when other people might have the same thing going on

00:38:33.720 yeah i i do wow i was like yeah i think that well um i see it with like you're like the the hormone

00:38:41.340 whisper yeah i see it like there's a woman friend i have i'm like i'm like she's a dude like the way

00:38:48.060 she acts the way she talks like she's not a tomboy man she's a fucking dude does her name start

00:38:52.900 with a g or not no okay i can't i can't say yeah we won't outer but i just thought it might be the

00:38:57.800 same person we're just gonna stop there at that first letter yeah yeah do you do you i'm just trying

00:39:07.540 to get i guess get to do you feel like like did you feel like when we're in louisiana that people

00:39:14.700 thought differently than anywhere else or do you feel like when you went there that you might be looking

00:39:18.740 for that yeah you know i was surprised by how how little people seem to give a shit about the

00:39:25.580 transgender thing um you're better than it you're definitely better looking than half the women there

00:39:30.340 too did uh did i tell you that uh uh i think they were thrown off by my ethnicity more because

00:39:37.540 several people like fucking bowed to me like i think the mayor bowed to me that's what someone

00:39:43.460 told me hey did you check out the mayor bowing to you so what i so the joke that i've kind of

00:39:47.480 come up with is i think they were thrown off that i was vietnamese and now they they just have a

00:39:51.560 weird stereotype about vietnamese where we're like oh hell i didn't know that vietnamese do dress up

00:39:55.580 like chicks hell i ain't judging you know i think that that's what they were thinking i don't think

00:39:59.500 they knew that i was a transgender woman but yeah i just vietnamese was was way more on on the list

00:40:06.680 and i thought they were going to give me dirty looks but no one did oh wow yeah i mean i worried

00:40:11.220 about it some too you know that people would i mean i didn't think so but you just don't know

00:40:15.120 yeah um and places are getting so diverse places a lot of places are getting more diverse nowadays

00:40:20.020 you know um or at least more multicultural right like i think the gender stuff is still probably

00:40:27.480 kind of rare yeah you know probably people are afraid to talk about it yeah it's really new i think

00:40:33.820 well and it's not new because it's been going on for actually thousands of years like native americans

00:40:38.800 used to have a third gender oh yeah like two-spirit you know for i think that was the transgender back

00:40:44.940 in the day that double up yeah that's what they call it the double up that's sexy and uh but um but

00:40:52.240 now you know it's new like now like we're finally talking about it it's new in that sense do you ever

00:40:58.540 worry that you will wake up one day and feel differently yeah because then i'll have to transition

00:41:05.580 back and i think i'm i'm so this is how arrogant i am i think i'm so good i'd be able to pull it off

00:41:11.780 you know but i'm not a dude you know like you're the david copperfield of crotches yeah um there are

00:41:19.820 moments when i'm like i wish i was a guy it would be a lot easier you know so that's how that's how i

00:41:24.720 kind of know i'm a woman because it would be so much easier to switch back my life would be a lot

00:41:28.180 easier it would yeah yeah i don't have to put makeup on every day don't have to like worry about

00:41:34.400 people looking at me or sending me weird messages on facebook or anything you know just walk around

00:41:39.100 like kind of like i'm invisible yeah did you feel more invisible before oh absolutely yeah no one

00:41:45.160 looked at me like being transgender and how did that did that feel certain did that kind of like

00:41:49.980 hurt your feelings so no it's like you don't know that you feel invisible because you are you this is

00:41:55.960 like your reality all the time it's like you know a fish in water doesn't know it's in the water right

00:41:59.960 yeah like a goldfish in a bowl they don't know they're in there yeah their world yeah so i think

00:42:04.080 like now i i miss it a little bit because now when i walk into the store people like look at me

00:42:08.700 and stuff it's like you're like a celebrity that people like but people don't know who you are

00:42:13.480 you know what i mean um it's almost like the wizard of oz yeah right like you heard he's back there in

00:42:19.880 the beginning of the movie but then they get there and he's kind of not even around yeah yeah that's

00:42:23.820 who i am yeah um do you like have any thoughts like when it comes to like families and stuff like

00:42:31.080 that like having a family did you have any thoughts that changed i'm just trying to think i'm trying to

00:42:34.880 really i guess get into what that's like a little bit um you know if your thoughts kind of are you

00:42:40.820 just the same person but you're just you look like a woman now i think that's more like that yeah it's

00:42:46.080 more like i'm the same person except uh i'm i just kind of embrace my feminine qualities like

00:42:51.940 yeah do the limp wrist thing and i and i don't care that my voice sometimes like sounds like kind

00:42:56.900 of you know girly or whatever you know i i don't care i don't i'm not trying to be macho anymore

00:43:01.820 ah like yeah my friend told me like to get a girlfriend he goes like you're too you're too

00:43:07.760 flowy you know to get a girlfriend you gotta like walk like this and i'm like putting up my shoulders

00:43:12.460 right now like a peacock yeah you'll get fucked if you do this all the time i was like oh man it's

00:43:16.700 really stiff man like i can't i can't do that all the time yeah so that's the main difference i

00:43:21.880 think was there a girl or something you had apologized to that you hooked up with before

00:43:25.740 no no there have been girls i've had to apologize for other reasons you know yeah yeah but it has

00:43:33.220 nothing to do with the gender thing did you feel like immediately you could get in some legit fights

00:43:37.040 with bitches before that you couldn't get into i didn't think about the fighting aspect of it

00:43:43.880 like if you hit a girl now are you off the hook or you're still oh robert hit that bitch

00:43:48.500 i don't know i just wouldn't feel right to hit a woman would you have felt i mean yeah look i agree

00:43:54.440 yeah you know i'm not out here you know i'm not you know supporting that but did you feel any

00:43:58.880 differently before that's a really interesting question um no i feel i actually feel exactly the

00:44:04.920 same way as i did before like it would be as wrong what did your father think about it

00:44:12.980 oh my dad what do you transgender what do you mean this is my son where's that for comedy

00:44:18.980 oh he still thinks that yeah after three years even though he sees me like this sometimes like

00:44:24.160 he's walking around it's like he it's like he sees like a fucking censored person or something he

00:44:29.260 doesn't even acknowledge it god that must be crazy and fun to be in that brain just how everything's

00:44:34.740 just kind of whatever yeah he doesn't know he raised two lesbians you know oh shit i shouldn't

00:44:39.800 have said that on the air that's okay we'll pretend that your sister isn't a lesbian yeah look all

00:44:44.540 everybody's pretty much do you feel like we're all going to be lesbians soon yeah that's exactly right

00:44:49.120 i mean i think everyone should be yeah yeah it just makes sense i don't know i just think women are

00:44:54.060 beautiful and i love women so much you know like to look like this and sound like this and to say that

00:44:58.900 i love women what sucks is that you know it's been portrayed as if you're a guy and you're straight

00:45:04.740 on tv and you're like oh i love women and it's like oh that's a gay dude and he's suppressing it

00:45:10.200 but like i actually sound and talk like that and i like women but i don't like dudes and it's hard

00:45:15.900 to prove that when you sound and talk like this you know what i mean yeah do you have to prove to

00:45:20.580 did you have to prove like you have a girlfriend now right do you have to prove that you had a penis

00:45:24.740 at first were you like look i promise i got a dick in here somewhere or do you you know like

00:45:28.620 like did she no she she no she stuck with me through the transition oh your girlfriend was with

00:45:34.480 you before yeah she was with me as as robert and then she stuck with me through the transition

00:45:38.880 wow yeah we have a show about it we we do the unconventional lesbians show we talk about our

00:45:45.180 whole relationship and how i where can i watch that at we perform like oh you go it's a stage show

00:45:51.800 it's a stage show yeah yeah yeah we have one coming up in june i think okay yeah yeah we'll put

00:45:56.820 the link into that yeah if you if i were like what kind of person out there would maybe have the

00:46:04.480 same thing that you have like what clues would they have if they had this you know if they had

00:46:09.000 this kind of wild condition i think um is it as a wild condition is that a no i don't think that's

00:46:14.460 the correct way to put it but i i would say that the most important thing for me is that everyone's

00:46:20.840 journey is kind of different you know like some people have not had the experience i had where like

00:46:26.540 i always knew and then i didn't know some people just kind of figured it out one day

00:46:30.360 and i i kind of don't ask people how they figured it out i guess it's like oh doesn't matter now yeah

00:46:36.120 i guess it doesn't matter to me is there still something that like did you get like did the gay

00:46:41.300 lesbian community kind of latch like was there do you feel like there's a whole connection there do

00:46:46.960 you feel like not connected to that world do you just feel like you're on your own path no i i was

00:46:52.240 surprised by how open they were to me they like welcomed me with open arms you know i was i'll

00:46:58.840 never forget that they did that for me i needed i needed um i needed like a new family afterwards

00:47:04.880 basically and they were my family for a while but i don't know i not as much anymore i think i think

00:47:12.680 i'm figuring out who i am and i'm just kind of i don't like to be put in a box you know like i'm kind

00:47:17.660 of like someone that likes to say something for the first time oh yeah yeah yeah and that's like

00:47:22.200 has nothing to do with gender this is my arrogance you know so like got put in a box by society i'm

00:47:26.860 transgender and then the transgender people were like oh this is how you do it i'm like no fuck

00:47:30.260 you i'm not gonna i'm gonna be like so yeah i'm the buzz all yeah man i'm not even yeah i'm different

00:47:35.920 than all you transgender people huh yeah what'd be even more different yeah feel even more different

00:47:40.880 than you so that's where i am right now do you do you ever worry or not even worry but do you ever

00:47:45.440 think fuck you know like maybe that's a part of what even led me into this was just an ego to

00:47:49.860 really be unique no no absolutely not i i know it's real because like dude you know how like uh

00:47:56.700 people who were like hate gay people like end up being gay i was like dude i hated trans people

00:48:02.100 like i fucking hated them like i'd watch like um my girlfriend tried to get me to watch transparent

00:48:07.380 on amazon and i was just watching it and i was screaming at the tv like what what fucking i have

00:48:13.080 to call this dude she what kind of fucking world is this and i would just like yell at you know like

00:48:17.540 yell at the tv and then and then as i'm yelling i don't remember i said this and i'm like you know

00:48:22.040 in some kind of life i would have been called i would have asked people to call me she that'd be

00:48:26.160 fucking awesome but you don't see me fucking whining about it and she's like she's like are you

00:48:30.140 transgender and i was like i don't fucking want to talk about i slammed the door i don't remember i said

00:48:34.340 that so it was almost like this alternate you said it yeah yeah and i was did you ever feel like a

00:48:39.860 little woman inside of you like crying out for help or crying out to be noticed or any of those

00:48:44.200 things i didn't feel like any of that stuff yeah i don't know what that would feel like

00:48:47.760 did you ever um see a movie and be like oh yeah i don't want to fuck that cartoon or something like

00:48:55.120 brave no you think brave's hot or not who's brave brave is like this gen she's like an irish archer

00:49:02.580 and she was a like a child star on disney or something like a but it's a cartoon it's a drawing

00:49:07.380 it's not a real child it sounds like you think that she's hot is it okay to say i'll fuck a

00:49:11.180 cartoon but not knowing what age it is i don't know i guess we'll figure out i'm a little bit

00:49:16.320 worried about that all of a sudden i remember i watched this movie called the joy luck club

00:49:20.200 and it was like all asian women and dude that made me that movie made me cry like nine times man i was

00:49:26.780 i just watch it and i would relate to these asian women but i'm like that's weird i'm not an asian

00:49:31.480 woman but that's like the movie that i watched that i'll think about all the time yeah why because

00:49:37.280 there's something there's a feeling in there then that you must really relate to yeah like the um

00:49:42.100 not being listened to and by society and you know the things that asian women have to go through and

00:49:48.160 yeah it's just like weird like i don't remember the specifics but i remember like i can put myself

00:49:53.280 in their shoes and like that's how i would feel and then it feels tragic you know like did you feel

00:50:00.340 like you used to hurt a lot more now you don't yeah actually yeah a lot of my women friends weren't

00:50:07.180 really surprised when i came out they were like oh my god that makes so much sense because like

00:50:11.920 they would always tell me it's like you think like a woman because we would talk about life and stuff

00:50:16.760 and then they would talk about boys and i would talk about girls and the way i talked about girls

00:50:20.780 was like different than any guy they knew because i wouldn't i wouldn't you know be like oh yeah like

00:50:25.700 her or whatever i'd be like man the way that she oh my god oh my god oh my god like look at look at

00:50:30.660 what she look at what she i am to me look at what she i am to me what do you get what do you think

00:50:34.160 i think this means like that's how i would do that i would do that and then they'd be like

00:50:39.080 but you're a fucking girl and i'm like no fuck you i just i like her a lot i like her a lot

00:50:43.200 dude so you were low all this time you thought you had a lot of friends who were girls you were

00:50:49.820 low-key trying to fuck them all but as a woman yeah no no i was crazy no no no wait you know what's

00:50:56.060 funny is damn you're like the benedict arnold of pussy dude no i wasn't trying to fuck them all

00:51:01.060 and that's kind of what a different like my guy friends wouldn't understand i had a lot of female

00:51:06.100 friends and i was attracted to all of them but they would always be like you want to fuck all

00:51:10.860 your female friends and i'm like no actually i don't like i i like their company they'd be like

00:51:15.140 oh so if you're saying right now if so and so was like i want to fuck you you'd say no and i'm like i

00:51:20.400 didn't say i would say no i'm saying that i don't doesn't think it's like no if you wouldn't say no

00:51:25.160 like i think guys look at it like more black and white yeah and women look at it more gray

00:51:29.420 yeah i'm like i can be attracted to someone and then not want to fuck them yeah and then like if

00:51:34.680 they wanted to fuck me i might have a weak moment or whatever i think that's more that's more female

00:51:39.500 yeah and that's how i still look at it you'd i was at this party one time and this dude wanted to hook

00:51:44.980 up with this chick really bad and everybody's drunk and she's like if you let my friend who is

00:51:49.040 homosexual blow you then i'll fucking hook up with you right yeah he's like all right you know

00:51:54.680 so this dude blew him and then she didn't let the fucking dude hook up with her oh that's awful

00:51:59.820 yeah this dude just got blown did he have a good time huh did he did he enjoy himself i mean you know

00:52:09.020 it was i think fourth of july that's pretty but the thing is that i remember there was this one game

00:52:14.960 this fraternity played i went up to and it was at um this was in ithaca new york they had a school up

00:52:20.660 there called cornell or cornelius cornelius i don't know cornelius maybe cornelius academy

00:52:25.560 cornell cornell which one sounds right cornell okay big red or something was their fucking team

00:52:33.320 name right stupid but they had this game called don't wake the bunny and it was they would put

00:52:38.980 take marbles put them in a dude's ass that was passed out right oh god you know had to drink or

00:52:46.380 whatever and i'm like i don't think that's you know this guy wakes up and has nine steelies in

00:52:51.920 his ass you know why isn't that considered gay it's a very gay thing drawing dicks on your friends

00:52:58.020 faces and shit you know they're calling me gay that's party dude that's native american culture i

00:53:02.980 think that's the native american culture yeah has um chris had a question too that we were talking

00:53:07.820 about when i was driving in chris what was that question you wanted to ask i was wondering if you

00:53:11.240 felt like more respected inside of the comedy community or like just in the regular community

00:53:18.940 since you've come out oh yeah if i'm as respected okay so um i feel like uh people who don't who don't

00:53:29.700 see me perform respect me a lot less like they haven't seen me do comedy yet i'm like a caricature

00:53:35.800 of a person but when they've seen me perform they do this switch and and they'll make sure

00:53:40.940 they'll say this like it's it's funny every single person says it like wow you're really funny you know

00:53:45.620 what trans has nothing to do with it you're just funny you know fuck trans and fuck you you're just

00:53:50.620 a funny person i almost said that yeah like it doesn't even matter and i'm like i didn't say it

00:53:54.760 mattered you know you're the one bringing it up so it's like i'll never get a fair assessment

00:53:59.600 so like um back then when i went on stage right just a little asian dude um little robert yeah

00:54:06.860 little robert would go on stage and people would be people would start laughing already because it's

00:54:10.700 like asian people aren't funny so the bar so the so the bar would be really low black dude you have

00:54:17.000 this crazy also self-hatred for asian people like if i see asian people i usually think they're pretty

00:54:22.540 funny japanese people seem like they're asleep but also alive at the same time but every other type

00:54:27.520 of asian to me seems really funny no i don't i don't think uh i think i think that that's a a rare

00:54:33.340 assessment of asian people though like this is how i feel like if you're if you're asian you go on

00:54:37.880 stage if you can put a complete sentence together the audience will kind of laugh because they're

00:54:42.380 like whoa i didn't know an asian could put jokes together you know like that's kind of the race

00:54:46.380 but like it's like you get like uh advantage due to racism and so now i get an extra advantage

00:54:52.760 because i'm trans because they're like oh my god this trans person is actually funny like it's

00:54:57.080 it surprises them so at the end they're like really blown away i think black people have the

00:55:01.500 opposite problem like i remember this black guy was at an open mic and the bartender was like oh i

00:55:06.840 think this guy's gonna be funny yeah and i'm like are you saying that because he's black oh yeah yeah

00:55:11.820 he was just like a he's like a brand new comic doing it for two weeks and he bombed because he's

00:55:17.020 fucking brand new so like people were like oh man i thought that was gonna be like the new fucking

00:55:21.260 chris rock or something you know yeah there's a lot of expectations i feel like on black people yeah

00:55:25.840 it's like you know it's like with basketball you know like you see a tall black guy you're like

00:55:29.600 that dude definitely plays basketball or unfortunately works at the airport yeah like

00:55:35.060 that's the way it's you know there's just there's definitely some you know stereotypes that are out

00:55:39.440 there i can't believe you thought a little this a little do you think robert was a cool guy now

00:55:44.180 that you're robin no i think robert had moments the i think robert tried his best but um definitely

00:55:53.720 like hurt a lot of people you know like how just said mean things when i was mad you know when i

00:56:02.280 would be mad at people and not knowing people's boundaries and like you know like a girl would

00:56:07.680 block you on on aim aim i don't know about that but yeah i can imagine like yeah you get blocked and

00:56:12.980 then you get a new screen name and be like why did you block me like i would do shit like that man

00:56:16.860 it was fucked up like robert 002 yeah but um yeah you know i'm gonna go back to the comedy thing for

00:56:24.060 a second i think i got a chip on my shoulder about my stand-up because i think i'm really good you know

00:56:28.900 like i don't think i'm great at a lot of things but i think i'm a great comedian and i i one day i

00:56:34.020 wanted to just be that i don't want it to be like a great trans comedian or a great vietnamese comedian

00:56:38.940 or whatever i think that's the biggest chip on my shoulder i have right now well i respect you for

00:56:43.700 being honest about that because i think that that's hard for something to be on for people to

00:56:46.780 be honest about sometimes is a to say that we're good about something without you know sometimes i

00:56:52.140 battle if like that's my ego talking if i were to say that or if that's a low self-confidence but to

00:56:57.060 say that you know and hear you say that i respect you saying that and i agree like i saw your comedy

00:57:01.620 and i didn't know what to think of you like i didn't know i met you through roast battle right you

00:57:06.220 know in roast battle for people who aren't familiar it's where two comedians basically like insult each

00:57:10.320 other right with jokes and then judges get to judge yeah and was that when jim carrey was there

00:57:15.340 no no no it was a different night i think you were there the night i was battling connor mx badden

00:57:19.920 yeah yeah yes yes i was and and i was like what i just never seen anyone like you before yeah you

00:57:29.920 know and then after that i went home and watched your comedy and i was like holy shit this lady

00:57:33.440 this lady yeah it's like uh this bitch is kind of hardcore a little bit yeah like transgender is

00:57:40.340 kind of a secondary thing but it's weird because it's this thing you see first right yeah yeah but

00:57:45.900 it's not your only thing right some people and this might be a generalization i don't give a fuck if it

00:57:51.540 is really but they hang their hat on oh this is my thing right you know like you'll meet gay guys

00:57:56.100 and like i'm gay you know or black people and i'm just you know i'm you know you know you know

00:58:01.840 what i'm saying black power uh you know brown power blacks forever we we can't do it we all we do is

00:58:07.500 do it you know yeah it's just like oh just hold on for a second guy let me get on board here or

00:58:11.680 you'll meet a white guy that's just like you know fucking white you know man this shit this you know

00:58:16.760 we got to whiten up you know i'm saying paint your fucking friends white dude yeah you know dip

00:58:21.720 somebody in fucking white water yeah like what is white water yeah but i got trans jokes but they're

00:58:27.980 always like they're always like i i switch to expectation of what i'm gonna say like like i'll

00:58:33.160 say like um man i want to be one of those trans i want to be a trans woman that just starts shit for

00:58:37.980 no reason like just walk into a store and be like why doesn't your women's restroom have any urinals

00:58:42.720 you know like i'll say shit like that where it's like that's not a that's not a cool thing to say

00:58:47.660 you know like i think it is cool because you're not you're not taking the normal path of like

00:58:51.480 i'll be i'll just i'll say something that's evil so that the crowd doesn't expect me to just say

00:58:56.480 nice things you know i'll say a lot of evil shit i'll see i'll see if i can turn on to get them to

00:59:01.880 turn on me first and then i'll do comedy to see to see how to see how good these jokes really are

00:59:07.400 well see that takes me back to a little bit more of like do you like it there's something been

00:59:12.560 something inside of me i know this in my life that i wanted to make things and whether i did it

00:59:18.380 consciously or not that i wanted to make things harder myself yeah because there was something

00:59:23.420 inside of me that like if life wasn't like i was so used to feeling some type of a hurt or some type

00:59:31.360 of uncomfort right that if i didn't keep things there somehow right that i wasn't like i wouldn't

00:59:40.340 even know what was going on yeah i know what you're saying but i think if i stayed as robert

00:59:47.200 that would have been the harder harder path this is the easier path for me like the outside world

00:59:53.200 might be a little tougher but i feel like i can look at people now you know and i'd never give that up

00:59:59.060 so so you know so there's no doubt that that that's a that this that this is your truth yeah

01:00:05.800 yeah wow that's cool yeah because some people i think a lot of times we walk around just not

01:00:12.160 knowing and maybe sometimes for some people it's a gender thing for some people i think it could even

01:00:16.620 be like a job thing you're in a job and you're like i don't this you know this doesn't fit me you

01:00:21.280 know but i walk by a paint store every day and i'm just fucking no but you know maybe i want to be a

01:00:25.600 painter you know i think but you know i'm saying i think you know people don't know where they fit

01:00:29.920 no but i still have that it's just not with the gender thing i see like you know i i had this moment

01:00:34.860 about roast battle like i'm like should i be doing this like because like am i selling out my

01:00:38.840 my gender for laughs or or am i being a badass and i'm stepping in you know like i have that moment

01:00:45.260 where i'm like is this cool that i'm doing this and i still like question myself all the time like

01:00:50.440 did i get this opportunity because i'm whatever and it's like and if i take it am i a token but then

01:00:56.660 i think like fuck it you know your life's been tough enough just take it and then like blow them

01:01:00.760 away like like make it so that you got there because of your gender or whatever and then once

01:01:05.860 you're there it's like wow we should have actually just got you because you were good you know it's

01:01:10.700 funny you say that because i think the same exact thing sometimes about you know like whenever i

01:01:14.500 started in comedy i worked in reality television you know this is a kid i mean i was a kid at school

01:01:18.420 right and basically won a contest you know and ended up on um on a show and i felt like that

01:01:24.000 i didn't even know what i wanted to be or anything i didn't know that i wanted to be a comedian yet

01:01:28.020 yeah and then people would judge me kind of for that or have a look in their eye or have a thing

01:01:32.480 you know and it made it that's the only thing that drove me for about eight nine years yeah was that

01:01:37.280 i'm going to show these people that i'm fucking good yeah yeah i have the same drive yeah because

01:01:41.440 i didn't know that i wanted to be a comedian yeah you know whatever was going on before that

01:01:45.340 i was a child 19 i was a teenager yeah technically yeah and you know but i'm going to show these like

01:01:53.260 it just that's what put that chip on my shoulder that's what made me that was my stand you know

01:01:57.140 yeah i think it's more like we get doors open for us that wouldn't be normally open

01:02:01.880 and it's like that's good but then they look at you once the door is open like all right we're just

01:02:06.720 letting you in because we want to see you yeah we're going to take a peek yeah almost we almost

01:02:11.060 let you in just because we wanted to judge you yeah yeah it's how i feel a little bit and that city

01:02:16.000 this city's full of that yeah it's great it's crazy how gross it is out here sometimes even though

01:02:20.720 it's supposed to be so accepting do you notice any of that oh i don't well i don't live in la

01:02:26.300 but whenever i visit it feels like everyone's trying to get on tv or like everyone is acting

01:02:32.220 like there's a camera already on them i went to the in and out with my girlfriend we were like

01:02:36.880 looking around and we were like everyone here is dressed up like they're on camera like what the

01:02:41.260 fuck this is so weird like everywhere else like people it's like one in the morning you would be

01:02:45.200 dressed in your pajamas or whatever you know but that's how that's what i know it's a lot of like

01:02:49.540 uh plastic people yeah yeah would you learn about love from your girlfriend from staying with you

01:02:56.220 through that transition i learned that uh if someone if anything if someone loves you enough they'll stick

01:03:05.000 by you through anything that's that's like i don't know i'm kind of blown away that she stuck with me

01:03:11.100 because i when i came out i was like i'm about to throw away my relationship that's what i thought

01:03:16.020 jesus because people were thinking like oh what was this like a duo thing like you know she's a

01:03:22.280 feminist she does a joke about it like people think that like she made me a woman like she's like

01:03:27.320 like or whatever like a frankenstein yeah yeah but it wasn't that at all um no i just learned that um

01:03:35.120 no it's kind of corny but like love kind of conquers all but i also learned that

01:03:40.420 if you love yourself enough you will throw away everything to be who you are the fact that i was

01:03:47.180 able to like come out like and go my mom might not love me anymore my dad might not talk to me

01:03:54.520 anymore and my material is going to be gone my girl my girlfriend might leave me but like i need to do

01:03:58.980 this right now for me that's that's what love is to me yeah damn

01:04:05.020 that's powerful it's so hard for us to make choices sometimes that we know are the best for

01:04:10.780 ourselves yeah you know that that was an easy one for me it was an easy one it wasn't it was easy as

01:04:17.060 in like i know this is what i gotta do but the consequences were going to be the most difficult

01:04:21.280 oh but looking at the stack and the consequences that's when it really got yeah

01:04:24.780 yeah it's so hard man sometimes to make the decision that we know is like are the truest for

01:04:30.500 us yeah you know or even the right decision like in the face of even little things like

01:04:34.640 standing up for somebody whenever somebody else is you know fucking with someone and you're making

01:04:38.880 fun of somebody and you're right there yeah you know or even like you know like when someone's

01:04:44.820 like oh do you remember so and so do you know so and so even if you don't just being like you're

01:04:48.180 always like yeah oh yeah i remember them or i know them yeah you know it's like we just don't want

01:04:52.040 to be i don't know if it's wrong we just i don't know we're not included we just we don't want

01:05:00.960 anything that makes us feel left out yeah no i hear you i know what you're saying i don't know i i

01:05:07.220 guess i i guess i'm kind of used to like not being part of a group like i've always been the weird one

01:05:13.400 in the group every group i've ever been in maybe it's on purpose i don't know maybe i'm just pushing

01:05:18.220 people away for no reason who knows right like maybe it's all subconscious um do you get any

01:05:24.220 clues in any of that ever whenever i'm in a group and i get comfortable i kind of think like am i an

01:05:33.700 individual anymore like and i kind of freak out a little bit like i like hanging out with people

01:05:38.600 one-on-one but in a group i get i fucking freak out dude like i don't want to be part of a group i want

01:05:44.720 to be my own person and so it's very isolating well what are you scared of that the group might

01:05:51.480 what no that i might be part of a group and i'm not myself anymore like you look at a group you know

01:05:57.740 and you can't right you can't be like oh that person's the best or whatever right because it's

01:06:02.260 a group it's a group you know i want to be like an island like that's how that's how fucking good i

01:06:06.700 am like i transcend all of it so that's kind of a mental illness i think is like this narcissism i have

01:06:13.220 you know to want to be the best and to want to be the most unique and all that stuff and to be away

01:06:18.700 from groups would you be surprised if something else like so now you've switched into a different

01:06:23.480 gender if you if you know you came up one day and took it to took you know found another thing in life

01:06:28.960 that makes us more unique or more rare or more separate and you chose that as well would you be

01:06:35.640 shocked if your brain started to lead you there would you then think like oh maybe this is a clue that

01:06:39.600 you know there's something going on that i'm not seeing i don't know and i'm not trying to lead you

01:06:45.860 to that i'm just no no no i hear i hear what you're saying i think that the fact that transgender is so

01:06:50.940 rare is a coincidence like if it was that if my truth was that i'm gay which is like kind of more

01:06:56.280 common now then i would have said that you know like if i saw like there is like a group of people

01:07:01.540 who are like they're going to come out and there's even less of them and they're even more oppressed i

01:07:05.180 wouldn't be like maybe i can do that you know i i don't think that that would be the case yeah i

01:07:11.400 would there would be part of me that would be like man that would be fucking awesome man i could be even

01:07:15.460 more unique of course that exists yeah but it's not it wouldn't be like i would go through with it or

01:07:20.620 i would feel it or anything i've got a couple questions i wrote down just on the way in um do you

01:07:26.660 have any regrets about about what about my life about switching over to being a woman nope

01:07:31.900 um do you ever get the feeling that like your body is just like a shell and that there's

01:07:38.740 that your being is more does that make any sense i wish i did i hate my body yeah it's fucking gross

01:07:46.380 yeah did you hate it as much before as you do now that's that hasn't changed has it i bet i hated i

01:07:50.700 hated more than i used to really because i'm more uh i'm more critical of myself like when i came out

01:07:56.240 i started noticing all these like pimples on my face like like i didn't give a shit before as a

01:08:02.100 guy and then as a girl i was like oh my god you gotta cover that up oh my god you know you gotta

01:08:07.040 cover up the fat you gotta get clothes that fit well and were you more self-conscious now yeah i'm

01:08:11.560 way more self-conscious now like like uh when i feel fat that's when i wish i was a guy because

01:08:17.200 like feeling like a fat girl is like really fucking like awful you know because fat girls get treated so

01:08:22.040 horribly oh you ever seen a fat girl eat a uh snow cone in the rain no oh beautiful do you think

01:08:31.360 that because now you're saying like you feel more self-conscious as a woman do you feel like there's

01:08:35.540 something inside of you that covets feeling more rare or pushes you towards separation

01:08:42.600 yeah but i don't think that has to do with gender with gender yeah you think so so you're able to

01:08:48.780 notice like okay this was one thing yeah that was definite and true and sure yeah and then that

01:08:53.860 these other things are just regular things or just other things about me yeah yeah i separate those

01:08:59.400 things like did you ever concern worry that that was one in the same i feel like that would be a huge

01:09:03.880 concern i'm like holy shit i just have this ego or something inside of me no it never it never feels

01:09:09.600 that way i think it's more like people perceive it that that could be it and then i think i i could see

01:09:16.200 where they're coming from and i can't explain to them how that's not the case you know that's the

01:09:21.660 frustration for me is i can't explain how separate they are i think you've done a good job here just

01:09:25.740 talking because it's very it makes i believe it yeah and it's clear and that would be that wasn't a

01:09:30.520 concern however you came in it's just something that i thought about as we're talking okay i remember

01:09:34.520 when i was young my brother and i there's a photo of us putting on my mother's dress you know

01:09:37.920 because my mother raised us yeah um and we had on my mother's dresses and uh and he had on we're on

01:09:45.780 her bed like just playing as kids you know and my brother was very he had like kind of tan skin he

01:09:50.860 looked people called us mexicans all the time because we had you know kind of you know a little

01:09:55.240 bit of olive skin right and my brother my brother was pretty dark yeah they would call us spick and

01:10:00.420 they would use racial slurs but i mean there was nobody around yeah so i was like fuck yeah you know

01:10:05.540 you're only get called that because you're basically you could have been in a fire once

01:10:09.960 and people were like look at this fit yeah you know what i'm saying like uh those are third degree

01:10:13.860 burns okay like sometimes it's just just difference you know when people don't have anything or they're

01:10:19.860 you know there's such an education sometimes it's difference that makes people point yeah um but i

01:10:25.280 remember i was putting on these dresses and my mother's and he had the the the kind of beige one or the

01:10:29.860 pink one and i had the purple one yeah and i'm fucking i don't all i remember is i just remember

01:10:33.800 man i bet he wishes he had this purple yeah and i don't know what that means i don't know if it

01:10:39.400 means anything yeah except that i look bad i look pretty good in a purple you know i always loved pink

01:10:44.620 man did you i loved it i still do man like i wore a pink top to like the first day of the taping oh

01:10:50.540 yeah that's right you did that's the first that's the first outfit i bought what you saw that's why i

01:10:56.040 have a special like connection to it have any guys come up to you and or girls come up to you and

01:11:01.000 asked you like uh for like advice in that world yeah it's like how do you do your makeup like how

01:11:07.000 how do you accessorize no advice in navigating your like you know your own genes and thoughts and

01:11:13.420 you know uh no i get more ask for advice about just like cosmetic stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah it's wild

01:11:21.540 i mean i feel like i'm talking with a woman yeah because you are you know yeah i like it dude

01:11:27.100 um yeah we got to do some shows one of these days you'll have to come out on the road with me

01:11:30.400 somewhere i would love to i mean i don't would your crowd like me you think yeah i think no

01:11:35.600 yeah 100 percent chris perez is here man he's latino dude because i think he's non-practicing

01:11:41.280 pretty much i always felt like the joke i had the joke i had with theo is that i always like

01:11:46.000 man our audiences probably hate each other you know what i mean like like the audience that likes

01:11:51.120 me probably doesn't like you and the audience that likes you probably doesn't like me

01:11:54.280 i mean we both have bad hair kind of like my hair looks great i mean yeah it looks better than mine

01:12:00.160 but when people saw the picture of us together like they were like in what fucking universe are

01:12:05.260 these two hanging out so that's that you know i would love to man i'd love to go on the road and

01:12:11.420 do comedy and stuff yeah well good all right because i'd love to take you out there sometime

01:12:16.180 do you feel like other like diverse people like black people are like oh fuck this bitch trumps us

01:12:22.080 you know what i'm saying do you ever get that i feel like white guys look at me that way yeah i

01:12:27.080 think it's like i don't want to say it's a hard time for white guys in comedy but i'm going to say

01:12:31.080 it's not really a commodity as it used to be right like people are looking for diversity now yeah but

01:12:35.360 who knows how long that'll last well it's what made me think either like we need somebody that's

01:12:39.040 diverse and that's unique and i was thinking well who would look kind of unique to me who would come

01:12:43.720 across as smarter than me yeah and i was like oh maybe this girl robin tran would do it yeah and like

01:12:49.820 is there a real last name really tran well i couldn't remember your last name and then i'm

01:12:53.040 like it's it's tran yeah uh which well that's one of my first jokes yeah yeah it's my real name

01:13:00.080 you know it's not like you don't have to look far for clues no yeah i didn't just come out for the

01:13:06.400 pun you know like jeopardy is everything for a pun that's a long way for a joke yeah um well thanks

01:13:12.180 for coming here and just sitting in and chatting with us and thinking about stuff of course man thanks so

01:13:15.460 much for having me yeah i appreciate it let's do it uh let's do it again soon yeah sure i'd love to

01:13:19.560 um cool we'll put all robin's links and everything at the bottom of the episode

01:13:22.840 okay and uh i'll see you guys this week i'm going to be in new jersey um i'll see you guys there

01:13:28.740 and what else i think that's it as always uh thank our sponsor gray block pizza

01:13:34.580 and anything else chris

01:13:36.440 cool thanks man yeah we don't have uh chris mic'd up but we'll get him mic'd up next time

01:13:42.720 uh and thank you guys for listening robin thanks so much thanks so much for having me man

01:13:47.120 yeah i'll see you later thank you

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - April 20, 2018

Robin Tran ｜ This Past Weekend #89

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