Robin Tran | This Past Weekend #89
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Summary
In this episode, we have our first guest, Robin Tran Tran. She is a comedian and she is also transgender. We talk about her life growing up in Vietnam and how she became aware of her sexual identity.
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what's up guys welcome to uh this past whatever today is we have a guest a guest coming in we're
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in studio today and we have a guest coming in uh robin tran and she is a comedian and she is also
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transgender and i'm not going to pretend like you know that's not part of the reason why i want her
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to come in uh because i want to i don't know just see what's cracking you know besides her
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you know sexual origination so uh so anyway we got robin tran coming in we just shot a pilot
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together down in louisiana and we got to spend some time around each other and some of it was
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just some of the conversation was interesting and fascinating and i thought maybe we would capture
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some of that today for you guys thank you guys for listening as always thank you gray block pizza
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1811 pico boulevard on the way to the beach gray block you know get that hit
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uh thanks for being here today thanks so much for having me yeah sorry i'm just do i seem stressed
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out no but now uh i can tell you that i'm stressed out are you good yeah we're both stressed out that's
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great what's causing what's causing you stress today is being alive you know
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being out of my comfort zone i mean it's almost like do you live out of your comfort zone no man i've
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i did nothing for literally like three years and then i started doing everything oh wow so it's like
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i keep missing my bed but then when i'm in bed i'm like no i gotta get the fuck out of here and do
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something i gotta get going i'm actually like ambitious for the first time in my life nice yeah i quit
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marijuana like six months ago i think that's what happened oh that'll change yeah one of my best
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friends uh quit marijuana and says started one of the biggest clothing companies in the world oh my
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god really yeah geez so things can happen um you um you were depressed what was causing the depression
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you feel like um half my family i found out actually this year half my family has bipolar disorder
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like in vietnam even like it's it's just like a chemical imbalance and probably i probably i had a
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really traumatic childhood you know my dad drank a lot and um my mom had bipolar what he drank do you
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remember just beer just like you'd have like 10 beers a night yeah and then uh was he a bowler or no
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what's that was he a bowler like a league bowler no i don't think he knows what bowling is even
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oh wow yeah it's crazy to be drinking that much beer and not know about bowling yeah i know um
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yeah at least we would have had fun if you yeah if you knew about bowling right yeah but my mom and
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my mom would like just be gone for a while because she had to go to like a hospital because you know
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it was undiagnosed bipolar oh wow yeah she had that yeah and so at that point it was just kind of
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like willy-nilly they didn't know i mean that's probably when they were still putting people on valium and
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things like that or no yeah yeah i i well it's like not talked about in vietnamese culture
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like so they just like oh you know we don't know what's wrong with you you know and then it took
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like years for them to finally go here's some medication you're like you're sick in the head
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yeah this is real funny stuff right yeah sorry this is yeah this isn't funny but it's interesting
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supposed to be a funny podcast it's so bad you know no it's it's just supposed to be a podcast you
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know it's supposed to be just a conversation you know we don't have to talk about anything in
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particular i just thought you know it'd be really interesting you and i just worked together on a
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pilot right yeah in louisiana yeah and you know um and you were like one of the most unique people
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i've probably ever met because you are how do you what is the term transgender yeah i'm transgender
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vietnamese lesbian i am a lot of things and you know what sucks is to be that to be all that and to
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also be self-aware because like i wish i wasn't self-aware you know i wish that i didn't know what
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i look like all the time wow because like if i wasn't me and i saw me i'd be like what the fuck
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that's the comedian side of you yeah like like i told you like sometimes i look in the mirror and i
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like i get startled like i forgot that i'm transgender because i was someone else for 28 years
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who were you for 28 years it was robert robert yeah really angry little asian dude just would yell at
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audiences for not laughing and just shit just like really overcompensating for something you know
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yeah and you don't see i mean i don't feel like you see a lot of violent asian really i mean that
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except maybe like in old movies and stuff yeah i don't know a lot of asians i feel like are really
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seem to be you know real like happy people you get the filipinos or i think they're even nicknamed
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the happy people right and then you have the japanese which are kind of you know a little bit
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kind of electronic it seems like a lot of times like they have you know like you bust them open a
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bunch of gigabytes would fly out can i tell you a secret yeah i can't tell asians apart man you
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can't no and you're asian yeah i'm a bad asian dude wow is there bad asians yeah i'm one i think
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you know i kind of broke i kind of did everything i wasn't supposed to do like i didn't go to medical
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school and i didn't i wasn't the man you know i didn't stay a dude like i didn't do anything right
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that's true because in some asian cultures that they want to they want the boy yeah oh and you
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you're like you're gonna be like i'll show them i am a boy red rover red rover sin of vagina right
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over yeah exactly yeah so when did you get um because i mean it's just fascinating to me and one
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thing that i love about you like you have this this comedy bit and we'll put it at the bottom of the
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video today and the audio a link where you were explaining to your mother about how you felt
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um and is it a woman trapped in a man's body is that how you felt or how did you kind of feel
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i just felt like when when i actually like i got off like medicate you know like i was medicated for
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the first time in my life for antidepressants for antidepressants and you know for the bipolar
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and i was singing like this song this girly song and i just like usually i roll up the window and i do
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it quietly but i'm like no man i'm fucking happy and it's when i did that for the first time in my life
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like dude my whole life flashed before my eyes like me as a kid wearing pink and like
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wanting to play with like this pink carousel set like these little horses you know like i remember
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i kept remembering that and like wearing jewelry and like i'd be in theater art you know drama class
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and they put makeup on me and i would just leave it on like for days and it's like the yeah these
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these memories came back and i was a lot of clues kind of like clues yeah and then i was like man you
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know if i was a woman my whole life would make sense like it wouldn't be a good life right it
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would be a life and you know life is like life right but and then it made sense and i just it
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was like a religious experience dude like i don't know how religious people feel but it must be kind
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of like that my whole body shivered and i started crying dude i cried for like half an hour man and
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like in my car and then i had to go clock back into work oh man i was like yeah a lot of chicks have
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done that dude yeah you know that's right i mean at that point you definitely qualify yeah no but no
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that's fascinating to have like a moment where you're like this did you almost feel like you like
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you're who you really were like erupted out of you or something yeah i think that's exactly true and
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you know i just remembered this i i never looked at people in the eyes until i came out i i avoided eye
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contact with everyone except for my girlfriend like i would just look down and i never knew why i was
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like i think subconsciously it was like if they see me they might know it about me but i didn't
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know what it was you know what i mean so that's fascinating so you're afraid if you were looking
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at somebody if they saw that they might see the truth in you that you didn't even know maybe yeah
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that's exactly right yeah yeah that's so bizarre i mean it's it's not bizarre that's not the word i know
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it's no it is i think it's so uh but i think that's so real i think because that's a reason
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why a lot of times we don't look people in the eyes because we're afraid that they're going to
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see our truth you know they're afraid that we're going to see that you know that we're hurting or
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that we are um confused or uncertain or sad or uh yeah you know it's that's just so it's so what was
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the song oh it was like an indie pop song probably people don't know it it was a rilo kiley song i don't
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know if you know who that is yeah it's very girly it's it's gay it is it's like that it's raining men
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song no no it's kind of it's a different kind of gay it's like celebrating like this different
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femininity not you ever hear patrice o'neill talk about it's raining men uh-uh he says that you know
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when you're a guy and you're singing karaoke you got to change the lyrics and you're like it's raining
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stuff it's raining things one of my favorite bits it's raining stuff um so it's kind of interesting
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like i was noticing some stuff and so uh i'm robin and i were working and you were robert and now
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you're robin yeah yeah and what and one thing that's so neat and i appreciate this is like you
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don't make me feel like i can't talk to you about these things you know like you don't make me because
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sometimes i get this vibe and this is just me being honest and this isn't trying to me be like
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i know anything but i get a vibe sometimes by some people that are you know are out of what would some
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people would perceive as the norm right sometimes when you try to engage with them about a conversation
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they take that as being judgmental even like asking questions and stuff or being curious and i think it
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makes some people who are curious about stuff afraid to ask you know yeah i know those people i mean
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i actually i deal with that too i think there's like infighting within the community about how to
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talk to other people and stuff um i don't know man i want to say this but i don't you know not say
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man i say stuff on here all the time it's like a lot of the white ones really really mad like because
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they they didn't have the racial discrimination before so when they transition there's like this new
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like they're being discriminated against now oh and so like it's like a fucking they're taking it
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all on at the same time but for me i'm just like oh yeah discrimination i've i've experienced that
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before i'm just adding on to it but i'm not down not downloading the entire thing you know it's just a
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theory of mine i don't know if it's fucking true oh i think it's really fascinating because you're
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saying like oh well if i was black or a vietnamese um i've already experienced some discrimination
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yeah so now that i'm switching genders yeah fuck sure like yeah yeah it's it's still hard but it's
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like i'm i'm like i kind of prepared myself for it you know just by being vietnamese you're like oh
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already you're like i beat vietnamese now i'll take on the world yeah i love that exactly that was the
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plan all along but for a white person they're just like oh fuck dude everything was great yeah man
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it's just a theory everybody i do not know no it's interesting that's a that's a really
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interesting theory man it's so funny when you when you were talking about um you know looking people
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in the eyes and them seeing did you know that what you were afraid that they might see in you was like
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uh like um your sexuality or did you have any clue i had a feeling it was like because like i you
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know what i i do i do this with my hands when i'm in private you know this is this that's it man
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fuck dude i do that sometimes i fucking love doing this man it's like my favorite thing and i think
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i was like you can't hear on the radio she's showing like a kind of a like a hanging wrist
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yeah yeah you know like a yeah like a limp wrist or like a walking dead extra yeah yeah exactly
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and uh and i think i was like man i'm gay am i gay but i'm not i don't like dudes you know but
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i'm not i was like i would always look at myself like you're not straight man like so it makes sense
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that i'm a lesbian because like if people say you're not a lesbian like and they look at me i'm
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like well do you think i'm straight then because i don't like dudes you know like would you look at
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me and say that's a straight person you know what i mean like did you have to chart it out because
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it sounds like you know for somebody that's not a good math person it's you're adding in some
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different elements yeah it no when i when i came out i was like this is gonna be fucking complicated
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for people because you came out and you said i said i'm a woman but i didn't say i'm a lesbian
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because i felt weird saying it at first you know because of my voice you know like i'm glad there's
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a video on this podcast because like being transgender is not really great for audio podcasts you know
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people are like what the fuck i don't i'm confused you know and i remember there's a little girl
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one saw me at an open mic and she goes uh hey that girl sounds like a boy and i was like oh that's
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great you got it completely right the little girl got it right um what so just because so we get back
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on what was the bit you the bit you have about when you explain your coming out to my mom coming
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out to your mom yeah just like that she doesn't speak vietnamese and i don't speak english so i had
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to like be like mom in vietnam she doesn't speak english yeah do they have boy born boy brain girl and
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she's like what and i'm like born boy brain girl she was okay i don't know sometime you know and i'm
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like okay me that i don't want to do that do you want me to do the whole no it's good we'll post it
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below it's just a great story yeah it's it's just so interesting for you it's like born boy brain girl
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it's like such it's like the simplest yeah you know it's a simple way to put it for somebody yeah it's
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you have to make it simple because if you don't speak the same language it has to be like the most
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simple words and also i don't know the complicated way to explain it yeah so i just like would just
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yell it for an hour until she got it that's how i came up which is also a very popular vietnamese
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form of communication exactly yeah they're very quiet like amongst strangers but to each other it's
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like man why are you guys yelling at each other you guys having fun or are you guys mad at each other
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sounds like the same thing yeah they're very game of thrones i'm like who's a lannister in this
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motherfucker i thought it was nap time right yeah um that's so wild do you feel because i'm
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trying to think so we went down to louisiana together right and i'm trying to think of how
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i think and feel about like like how if i if if there are certain things that i think of you as a
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certain gender or you know like if without even choosing to yeah you know not if not a judgment but
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just like because i think of you as a young lady yeah you know um but i guess sometimes i would
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treat you like a man right is that kind of a common like do you notice any things not in the even just
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in the way i behave towards you but i think um i noticed it more with like you didn't know me before
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my transition right so like people that know me after yeah they treat me with like a little more
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of this respect because i think i think it's the voice i really do i think like i i present pretty
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feminine and i still i not completely but it's easier for people right but what i noticed is that
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from people before my transition you know like um at open mics the comedians like hang around in a
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circle and they talk shit on each other they don't do that with me anymore because they're too scared
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and i think it's like a loss you know like oh man i love talking shit yeah but they're afraid of like
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stepping on eggshells and saying the wrong thing and misgendering me and stuff because they knew me
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as robert right so it's harder for them i think when you dream at night do you dream like as do you
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notice if you dream like in a male or female perspective or if that's changed i don't i don't dream as
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myself usually so yeah i don't know sometimes i think i have i am robert but you know i don't know
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do you remember like a first night that you went to sleep and felt like you were
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a woman because i mean i think yeah just saying do you i don't know probably slept with a smile for
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the first time yeah you know oh i can't imagine how like relax like freeing it would be yeah you
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know because there were times in my life or there have been times in my life where you know i was
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having such a tough time like relating getting into a relationship and being like comfortable in a
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relationship that i thought i might be gay you know and i'm like well there's something
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you know i mean after like there was nine years where i wasn't in any sort of a relationship with
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a woman i was dating yeah you know i was jerking off on you know mutually jerking off after people
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had agreed everybody was okay with me jerking off in the room great yeah um you know with women and
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stuff like that and doing some sex but i wasn't you know i wasn't able to like love and lock down
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anything there yeah and so i was like man well maybe i you know could i be gay and i just don't
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know it like i'm such a bad judge of character yeah that i don't even know if i'm gay yeah um
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but then i realized over time that for me i do desire a strong connection a male connection but what
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i want is like a brotherly connection yeah and that's something i've always really you know missed
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in a fatherly connection so i really gravitate towards some moments like that with other males
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to have some camaraderie yeah um but that you know i was just i was just lacking a connection with my
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own mother and so that's you know hampered the ability to connect with women beyond anything
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sexual you know right yeah you know that's really i feel kind of bad for guys that you know you can't
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have that camaraderie because it's like oh it's kind of like oh are we gay you know like you can't
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just i still have some male qualities just out of habit and there was a guy that um they went used
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to go to this wellness center you know for like to get better and there was this guy that um helped
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me every day we talked every day about comedy and stuff we became like best friends but i never hugged
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him it was because it's like in my head i'm like is that gay to hug him even though i'm not like i'm
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like a woman in my head but still feels like the old guy is still there like just lurking just can't
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be friends you know what i mean like it's we're too close and we're not like are we supposed to
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date now you know like it's that feeling yeah guys don't the guys aren't like allowed to get
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close with each other like that yeah yeah there is there's like a weird thing sometimes you know
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like if i pat my buddies on the back i'll do it be like oh i can't pat him again today right
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yeah you you used it up for the day i used my pad up today because you know that's the pat rule
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you know what i'm saying i can thumbs up i'm from real close but that's just you know i can do
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point blank range thumbs up all day but i can't i can't do an extra pat yeah was there some strange
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moments like i mean this is just do you ever feel like in the future we will all be that things will
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be more fluid and that you were like a pioneer on this sort of horizon of of you know gendership
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if that makes any sense you know i i was thinking about that and it's either going to be like everyone
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is kind of a flu fluid or that it's going to be so many that you can pick from or something
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but as for the pioneer thing i actually just like my my dream is for it to be boring you know to not
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be like like you're brave or to be like you're a you're the worst thing like the youtube comments
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were probably for this video i'm gonna be like i'm not gonna read them you know and uh like that
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you can't have you can't be a woman if you got a dick like comment number one thumbs up a lot of
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thumbs up for it you know i already know they didn't even watch the video you know um yeah they
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didn't even watch the video but i also have the other one like where it's like you're so you're so
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brave and it's like oh man don't call me brave man like i'd rather just live my life like i i told
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you i forget i'm transgender sometimes like i'm just like out and oh why is people why are people
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looking at me oh fuck i'm wearing a dress oh my god i fucking forgot man like i'm already depressed
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about something else and now i gotta think about this shit you know yeah yeah i mean you really like
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for a comedian already to be afflicted with whatever it is that makes us want to be comedians
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yeah you know whatever like toil or like broken like piping or whatever inside of us that
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you know makes us covet that constant attention yeah and then to be like oh well yeah i know what
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i'm gonna add on to this i had to throw away all my old material did you yeah that was really i was
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up on stage and i just said it on stage when i was like hey i don't i'm not joking guys but
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i feel like a woman and i i don't know if i'm gonna start wearing skirts because i'm lazy
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and that's uh i don't know what i'm gonna say tonight so have a good night everyone and that
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was it i put the mic back in the mic stand and left like people were like holy shit like
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is robert kidding and i'm like no i'm not andy kaufman dude i don't do that i'm kidding shit you
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know and that was how i came out to my comedian friends they just did it on stage did have you
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ever has anybody ever accused of it being like a thing oh yeah sure like um i think someone was
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making fun of me i forgot who it was where it's like robin's gonna just start adding afflictions
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like uh just to you know get more people to go get behind her like right take off a leg yeah next
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week she can't walk you know like she's blind now like just adding on more she's a service animal
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you're like really the fuck all right robin you're taking it too far yeah of course um
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do you was it were you attracted to women at a certain point in your life
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yeah i feel like you were yeah i was always attracted to women and i always felt like one
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i remember thinking when i was a kid like man i wish i could be a lesbian dude like out of
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everything else like oh i just loved like i saw like uh ellen degenerate kiss some woman on tv
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and dude that was like like i i got so horny when i saw that it was like you know like when you
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remember like the first thing you saw where i'm like i don't know what jacking off is yet but if i
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can jack off it's gonna be to that kind of shit so even to this day just women making out i'm just
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like fuck man i gotta jack off like so like that's my favorite thing you know i don't think that was
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what you were asking me but no i think it's well it's like i mean i guess i just wanted to know
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kind of yeah where your attraction was you know because i mean because then you have to kind of
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i'm sure like as you're trying to figure out what your place is or what your escape from whatever you
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know you did you feel trapped i always felt trapped yeah yeah i think i think you're right yeah
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i don't know how else to to put it but it's just like i just felt like like an escape room you ever
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been to an escape room no i haven't been to one but you know what it is yeah it's like where there's
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clues and then suddenly you get out but then it's just you and your friends back in the lobby of a
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hilton or something yeah i kind of feel like i just wanted to scream and i didn't know why
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i would say that's how it felt wow yeah and do you still feel some of that
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no no i i know who i am now sometimes i get like the identity crisis of just like
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who who am i like as a person who's not as depressed anymore because i'm kind of getting
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over that too so you notice that this has helped you to depression yeah no no no that's separate
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the two things are separate oh they are yeah that's what's so fucked up about it like um i'm
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not as you know blown away by the gender thing anymore it's been three years i guess kind of
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boring for me personally you know and then like i'm like okay now i'm a depressed transgender person
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or whatever you know and then and then like the depression has lifted a little bit or a lot
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so now i'm like well who am i if i'm not depressed i guess i just have to figure it out day by day
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just do things you know and be active like i can't believe that i we did the thing in louisiana
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yeah i can't believe i did i went from doing nothing to the most fun three days of my life
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yeah it was really the most fun three days of my whole life yeah that's cool yeah i wish i you know
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i uh yeah i mean there was a moment where you and i were driving like that grand marquee down on that
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highway i mean because we went back to covington in my hometown i talked about this on a regular
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podcast a little bit last week but i didn't tell them that you know i said i was there with another
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comedian robin tran um but i didn't tell them that you know you had a sexual transition or you know
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get in any of that um but i told them that i was back there and you know it was pretty wild and
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that one dude was like remember him yeah it was fucking hilarious he was like oh my house look
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can you say that get the fuck out of here get the fuck
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and i was like we were down there and it was yeah we were just cruising all around like scully and
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molder just like you know a recovering rural yeah guy and uh and a new transgender comedian you're
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probably the first the craziest thing i've seen in that town yeah actually had a three-legged pony
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growing up yeah okay maybe it was that she was a real beaut no you know i actually almost blew the
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whole thing the first day i almost fucked it yeah you know my eyes a little red right now there's a
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reason for that like half an hour before they were gonna pick me up i took what i think is my bladder
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medication because i gotta pee a lot and i look at the pill dude it i took my fucking sleeping pill
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no like and it's like it knocks you out after an hour and i just look at kate like i took a fucking
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lunesta and she's like you gotta throw it up yeah throw it up right she's like a coach for
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like the worst sport ever you know god i'm fucking throwing up oh she's on the all bulimia team yeah
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like i'm over the toilet dude i'm fucking crying i'm like i blew it man i can't she's like this right
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before they come to pick you up for the first day of shooting yeah she's like she's like put your
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fucking finger down your throat i'm like gus fring from breaking bad like putting my finger down my
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throat it's not nothing's working and she goes think of disgusting things think of fucking disgusting
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things and that's not working she goes think of the most disgusting thing you can think of
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and then i thought about eating my mom's pussy oh damn then then it all came out
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i'm fucking crying because i'm thinking about it and then like 10 minutes later everyone picked me
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up i'm like hey everyone like but in my head i'm like that was the most fucked up thing that ever
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happened to me like i'm traumatized by it you know i'm it was the most traumatizing moment of my life
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and then the most fun three days of my life here we go back to back yeah damn i never know anybody
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just get all hopped up on lunesta yeah and then that's why i popped a blood vessel by throwing up
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oh really yeah then i thought i was gonna die one time in chicago i if i eat tuna fish and gatorade at
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the same time i'll fucking my throat closes up oh my god really i can't handle that much excitement
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you know just fucking fish oil and uh you know whatever electrolytes electrolytes yeah wow my shit
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will throw up just shut down so i literally was having a i was fucking crawling through the hall of a
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hotel in chicago pulling on the dress of a cleaning lady and like had my hand down my throat
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oh my god i think she wanted thought i wanted to do sex or some kind of sex act like this is the
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weirdest uh mating call i've ever seen in my life he's crawling just holding my throat open yeah it's
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like this is a weird yeah yeah yeah uh okay guy we'll upgrade you to a sweet
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pipe down um do you feel sometimes like a do you feel like a woman now sometimes i feel like uh
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like like man i feel like a woman but i'm fucking getting lazy like i don't i don't like i gotta put
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makeup on and i gotta fucking wear dresses like i've done it for three years so like i started buying
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like boy clothes again yeah oh just because yeah because a lot of women that ended up getting lazy
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just by boy stuff yeah they're like oh i'm just a sports fan and it's like like a tomboy kind of
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you know and uh i don't know kind of think like the initial novelty wore off and i mean novelty
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not like oh this whole thing is like a like a stunt or anything like that but you know uh you you just
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kind of get over the it's called gender euphoria and then you experience this gender euphoria and i think
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when it goes away you're like okay and now i don't have to always wear a fucking dress can i just wear a
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fucking t-shirt and jeans and like light makeup and stuff you know did you find yourself having
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like really like overdressing like wearing like a bride's outfit a couple of days a week and stuff
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yeah i i would overdress every time i just wear dresses and fucking nice clothes and these shoes
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from be as lady as possible yeah from nordstrom's you know like just expensive shoes and shit like
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was there guys that you like had before when you were robert that you were like oh that guy's kind
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of cute that you were like you know just trying to just offering and just fucking chill and shit
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like that or no oh you mean guys that i knew before yeah well oh but you were lesbians you
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were attracted to women yeah well i mean i there are the other side though like there are some guys
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that were like hey like they want to hit it well you know if i were attracted to you would that make
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me gay you know hypothetically and i'm like it's weird hypothetical question that you know facebook
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message me at three in the morning you know but like i don't know man you know i guess it doesn't
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like if i'm a woman so it doesn't actually make you gay like i actually like had to look it up
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isn't that weird gosh yeah if you like if you are a guy that dates transgender women you're not gay
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hmm yeah so if i dated you i wouldn't be gay yeah people would think you are though right
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everyone would call you gay so it's like you would be gay anyway well you know it's funny yeah i don't
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feel like like if i feel like if here's a here's interesting i noticed this if you were sitting
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here and you were a man yeah i would feel like oh if i dated robert yeah i would be gay right but
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if i sitting here and i'm just thinking about you oh if i dated her yeah i might be you know a real
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wild cat yeah you know what i'm saying i might be in the hunting rare game right but i uh you know
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but i i don't i don't have the same feeling yeah that's that's kind of interesting yeah it is yeah
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just because my total like you know if you put you next to a boy i'd be like oh well i would
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you know i think a lot of people like on like i'll read periscope comments about me and stuff and
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they're like ew what the fuck is that thing you know when people are like that mad i'm just like
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all right dude like i i don't think it's true when people are like they hate trans people it means
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they're attracted to them but the ones that get really fucking mad i'm like you kind of want to
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fuck a transgender woman dude like why would you get that mad you know if people just went ill
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yeah and i was like okay you just don't like how the way i look yeah but just the fuck that
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what the fuck is that thing oh my god like you know like they're like their brains are gonna
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explode you know like oh okay do you want to fuck me like nwo fans yeah like new world order fans
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you press that and turn it back on uh new world order fans maybe i'm a huge wrestling fan are you
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oh yeah dude i like i know more about wrestling than i do about anything else in my life combined
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oh wow i've been watching wrestling since i was four years old um and how old are you now
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i'm 31 dude i was a huge and this is a little bit for you but i was a huge the von ericks were
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like a big family i know i know i know history yeah the pride of texas there was the texas tornado
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yeah wwf and he like transferred over and yeah like the the like he would spin around and do a
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clothesline right or a punch carry von eric carry von eric and he was the handsomest one outside of
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that they got a little kind of animally looking yeah yeah one of the brothers look like a damn
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sheep i thought like a tall sheep uh who was one of your favorite wrestlers growing up it was
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always sean michaels man oh yeah hbk i think is the greatest wrestler like that ever lived
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and marty janetti no it's so sad marty janetti is always like referenced even nowadays as like
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if there's a tag team and one of them explodes and one of them doesn't they call him the marty
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janetti of the oh isn't that yeah isn't that heartbreaking yeah both of them had nice hair do
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you think it was something about wrestling that kind of had that that has that sort of trans appeal
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to it in a weird way no i think you know what i think it's completely separate from gender i love
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i love combat i don't know why you know i love roast battles and i love wrestling and there's a
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movie called changing lanes with sam jackson and ben affleck and they're just like trying to one up
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each other with like trying to fuck each other's lives up and i don't know why i just love that like
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being boastful like i can fuck you up and i can back it up and the other guys like no i can fuck you
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up and just watching them try to fuck each other up yeah i love it it's my favorite thing in the
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world but i don't like people actually getting hurt so yeah that's why i like that it's like
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staged that's why i can't watch like ufc like oh that guy's legs really broken man like the fun's
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over man oh man you try to fuck that guy's wife and you pretend to hit each other oh that's what's
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fucking awesome but like oh man that guy's legs became like rubber i'm like oh jesus man this is
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fucking real can't deal with that do you were there things that you like more now after um
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your transition that you didn't like before like do you notice no no i like pretty much all the same
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things and uh i don't know like i still like wrestling as much as i ever did i was afraid i
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would stop liking wrestling oh you know and then like what would i do it's so scary like yeah were
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there things you were afraid like you of losing you know you're afraid you're gonna lose this or lose
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that if you go into this dude if i lost wrestling i don't know what i would do with my time i spent i
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spend you know wwe network i spent hours just watching that every day you know you know wrestlemania
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which is like last week in louisiana you know i just i love it i love it more than it's like number
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four on my list of things i love in my life like you know family my girlfriend me and like wrestling
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yeah you fucking love that's most of america yeah i think you just described yeah um did
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did you um did you experience like any loss of like friends or any connections that really changed
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or evolved for the better in your life yeah i lost a lot of friends and uh i don't know some of it
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wasn't because of the transgender thing but some of it was like when i came out like all of a sudden
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10 people unfriended me right away and then like i posted a picture of me in a dress and some guy went
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like some guy i knew in high school we knew each other for years and he and he went is this for
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work or something and i went no man i'm a woman and fucking and he fucking unfriended me and i was
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like fucking heartbroken well maybe his wife doesn't want to be all friends but another guy actually
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looked at one of the pictures and he liked he liked like nine in a row you know when someone like
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likes like a bunch of your pictures in a row and then one of them i was like really made up with
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these big boots and he just he just went fuck you for this one robert and then and then unfriended me
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so i think he like jerked off and felt bad you know what i mean like why would he like a bunch
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of pictures and say fuck you for this one and then unfriend me right oh the boots dude a lot of people
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have foot fetish you know oh yeah oh there's a guy around me growing up and he couldn't even come
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unless a pair of justins were in the room i think i'm a lot of like regretful coming sessions i think
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people have jerked off to me and then felt really embarrassed afterwards i think that's what i am
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for people have you always jerked off to the same stuff oh no i jerk off to like weirder shit now
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oh yeah oh yeah so you find that has that evolved or devolved no man i've jerked off to like my own
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pictures really yeah i'm like oh man if i had a clone totally fuck it have you yeah it's cool i mean
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i think it's unique i've never done it yeah when i was growing up they had a dude if we didn't even
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have pornography when i was young you know we couldn't get any mags yeah but they had this dude
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named nick and he would draw you a little picture of some cooter for the weekend you know yeah so for
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four dollars you'd hit this dude nick up on friday you know or thursday night if you wanted a good
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sketch you know because if he had that extra time to work on it man and then friday you get that hitter
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you know and you jerk off all weekend i still think it's not as weird as jerking off to a selfie
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but yeah whatever oh yours is definitely weirder i was just trying to make you feel a little less
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uncomfortable no what is it about a selfie that can make you calm you think i was like man i never
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looked like that before you know and then i'm really happy with how i look oh so you'll take a
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really nice picture yeah and then jerk off to that yeah i don't i haven't done it for a while so maybe
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my self-esteem is lower do you feel like one of my buddies used to get a cake yeah he used to get a cake
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and put like you're a good guy matt on it he'd get that written on it and then eat it at home by
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himself yeah it's kind of like that yeah yeah it's kind of like that but with your dick yeah yeah so
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do you still have a penis yeah and do you take drugs like what is that whole kind of thing like or is it
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that that's not even part of it and this is just good information for people because there's a lot of
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people that don't know yeah i i am actually um afraid to take any extra medication to like hormones and
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stuff because i take a lot of medication for the bipolar okay so i don't take any medication and i
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haven't gotten any surgery it's just more i just dress up and i just like try to you know make my
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hair look as feminine as possible okay yeah do you feel like it could have just been and i don't mean
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this in a bad way but i'll just mean this in like in a curious way that it could have this could be like
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some part of the bipolar thing do you ever have to think about that though do you question that ever
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or is it not even the same no i think what i think it actually kind of bothers me that i think
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that's the misconception because um like uh i think like it's in america it's hard to look at people
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like with multiple oppressions you know it's always like well that guy's oppressed because he's
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you know black but maybe he's also bipolar you know but people only can see black you know or like
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you know like when you look at mental health issues like on tv it's mostly white people because
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that's like they can only look at one at a time like if you have vietnamese and bipolar it's like
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too much like they can't look at and transgender whoa like pick one because we can only focus on one
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on tv so like mine are all separate like i don't i don't think it's like related at all you know what
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i mean right so you don't know but you don't feel like inside of you like and i don't know what it
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feels like to be bipolar you know i've seen some friends that have come down and been afflicted
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with it as they got a little bit older out of high school but you didn't think like oh maybe
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i'm just bipolar at first or something there wasn't any of that no i i thought like um um
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maybe this will help and it helped my depression for a while like i got out of it for a while and
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then you know it came back because you know i wasn't taking the right medication but just coming
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out helped me like for three months i didn't need anything i was just like really happy
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so can you do you feel like you can see when other people might have the same thing going on
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yeah i i do wow i was like yeah i think that well um i see it with like you're like the the hormone
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whisper yeah i see it like there's a woman friend i have i'm like i'm like she's a dude like the way
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she acts the way she talks like she's not a tomboy man she's a fucking dude does her name start
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with a g or not no okay i can't i can't say yeah we won't outer but i just thought it might be the
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same person we're just gonna stop there at that first letter yeah yeah do you do you i'm just trying
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to get i guess get to do you feel like like did you feel like when we're in louisiana that people
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thought differently than anywhere else or do you feel like when you went there that you might be looking
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for that yeah you know i was surprised by how how little people seem to give a shit about the
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transgender thing um you're better than it you're definitely better looking than half the women there
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too did uh did i tell you that uh uh i think they were thrown off by my ethnicity more because
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several people like fucking bowed to me like i think the mayor bowed to me that's what someone
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told me hey did you check out the mayor bowing to you so what i so the joke that i've kind of
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come up with is i think they were thrown off that i was vietnamese and now they they just have a
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weird stereotype about vietnamese where we're like oh hell i didn't know that vietnamese do dress up
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like chicks hell i ain't judging you know i think that that's what they were thinking i don't think
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they knew that i was a transgender woman but yeah i just vietnamese was was way more on on the list
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and i thought they were going to give me dirty looks but no one did oh wow yeah i mean i worried
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about it some too you know that people would i mean i didn't think so but you just don't know
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yeah um and places are getting so diverse places a lot of places are getting more diverse nowadays
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you know um or at least more multicultural right like i think the gender stuff is still probably
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kind of rare yeah you know probably people are afraid to talk about it yeah it's really new i think
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well and it's not new because it's been going on for actually thousands of years like native americans
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used to have a third gender oh yeah like two-spirit you know for i think that was the transgender back
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in the day that double up yeah that's what they call it the double up that's sexy and uh but um but
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now you know it's new like now like we're finally talking about it it's new in that sense do you ever
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worry that you will wake up one day and feel differently yeah because then i'll have to transition
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back and i think i'm i'm so this is how arrogant i am i think i'm so good i'd be able to pull it off
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you know but i'm not a dude you know like you're the david copperfield of crotches yeah um there are
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moments when i'm like i wish i was a guy it would be a lot easier you know so that's how that's how i
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kind of know i'm a woman because it would be so much easier to switch back my life would be a lot
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easier it would yeah yeah i don't have to put makeup on every day don't have to like worry about
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people looking at me or sending me weird messages on facebook or anything you know just walk around
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like kind of like i'm invisible yeah did you feel more invisible before oh absolutely yeah no one
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looked at me like being transgender and how did that did that feel certain did that kind of like
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hurt your feelings so no it's like you don't know that you feel invisible because you are you this is
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like your reality all the time it's like you know a fish in water doesn't know it's in the water right
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yeah like a goldfish in a bowl they don't know they're in there yeah their world yeah so i think
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like now i i miss it a little bit because now when i walk into the store people like look at me
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and stuff it's like you're like a celebrity that people like but people don't know who you are
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you know what i mean um it's almost like the wizard of oz yeah right like you heard he's back there in
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the beginning of the movie but then they get there and he's kind of not even around yeah yeah that's
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who i am yeah um do you like have any thoughts like when it comes to like families and stuff like
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that like having a family did you have any thoughts that changed i'm just trying to think i'm trying to
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really i guess get into what that's like a little bit um you know if your thoughts kind of are you
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just the same person but you're just you look like a woman now i think that's more like that yeah it's
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more like i'm the same person except uh i'm i just kind of embrace my feminine qualities like
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yeah do the limp wrist thing and i and i don't care that my voice sometimes like sounds like kind
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of you know girly or whatever you know i i don't care i don't i'm not trying to be macho anymore
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ah like yeah my friend told me like to get a girlfriend he goes like you're too you're too
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flowy you know to get a girlfriend you gotta like walk like this and i'm like putting up my shoulders
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right now like a peacock yeah you'll get fucked if you do this all the time i was like oh man it's
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really stiff man like i can't i can't do that all the time yeah so that's the main difference i
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think was there a girl or something you had apologized to that you hooked up with before
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no no there have been girls i've had to apologize for other reasons you know yeah yeah but it has
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nothing to do with the gender thing did you feel like immediately you could get in some legit fights
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with bitches before that you couldn't get into i didn't think about the fighting aspect of it
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like if you hit a girl now are you off the hook or you're still oh robert hit that bitch
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i don't know i just wouldn't feel right to hit a woman would you have felt i mean yeah look i agree
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yeah you know i'm not out here you know i'm not you know supporting that but did you feel any
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differently before that's a really interesting question um no i feel i actually feel exactly the
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same way as i did before like it would be as wrong what did your father think about it
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oh my dad what do you transgender what do you mean this is my son where's that for comedy
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oh he still thinks that yeah after three years even though he sees me like this sometimes like
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he's walking around it's like he it's like he sees like a fucking censored person or something he
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doesn't even acknowledge it god that must be crazy and fun to be in that brain just how everything's
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just kind of whatever yeah he doesn't know he raised two lesbians you know oh shit i shouldn't
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have said that on the air that's okay we'll pretend that your sister isn't a lesbian yeah look all
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everybody's pretty much do you feel like we're all going to be lesbians soon yeah that's exactly right
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i mean i think everyone should be yeah yeah it just makes sense i don't know i just think women are
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beautiful and i love women so much you know like to look like this and sound like this and to say that
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i love women what sucks is that you know it's been portrayed as if you're a guy and you're straight
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on tv and you're like oh i love women and it's like oh that's a gay dude and he's suppressing it
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but like i actually sound and talk like that and i like women but i don't like dudes and it's hard
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to prove that when you sound and talk like this you know what i mean yeah do you have to prove to
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did you have to prove like you have a girlfriend now right do you have to prove that you had a penis
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at first were you like look i promise i got a dick in here somewhere or do you you know like
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like did she no she she no she stuck with me through the transition oh your girlfriend was with
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you before yeah she was with me as as robert and then she stuck with me through the transition
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wow yeah we have a show about it we we do the unconventional lesbians show we talk about our
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whole relationship and how i where can i watch that at we perform like oh you go it's a stage show
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it's a stage show yeah yeah yeah we have one coming up in june i think okay yeah yeah we'll put
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the link into that yeah if you if i were like what kind of person out there would maybe have the
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same thing that you have like what clues would they have if they had this you know if they had
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this kind of wild condition i think um is it as a wild condition is that a no i don't think that's
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the correct way to put it but i i would say that the most important thing for me is that everyone's
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journey is kind of different you know like some people have not had the experience i had where like
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i always knew and then i didn't know some people just kind of figured it out one day
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and i i kind of don't ask people how they figured it out i guess it's like oh doesn't matter now yeah
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i guess it doesn't matter to me is there still something that like did you get like did the gay
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lesbian community kind of latch like was there do you feel like there's a whole connection there do
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you feel like not connected to that world do you just feel like you're on your own path no i i was
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surprised by how open they were to me they like welcomed me with open arms you know i was i'll
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never forget that they did that for me i needed i needed um i needed like a new family afterwards
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basically and they were my family for a while but i don't know i not as much anymore i think i think
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i'm figuring out who i am and i'm just kind of i don't like to be put in a box you know like i'm kind
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of like someone that likes to say something for the first time oh yeah yeah yeah and that's like
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has nothing to do with gender this is my arrogance you know so like got put in a box by society i'm
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transgender and then the transgender people were like oh this is how you do it i'm like no fuck
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you i'm not gonna i'm gonna be like so yeah i'm the buzz all yeah man i'm not even yeah i'm different
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than all you transgender people huh yeah what'd be even more different yeah feel even more different
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than you so that's where i am right now do you do you ever worry or not even worry but do you ever
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think fuck you know like maybe that's a part of what even led me into this was just an ego to
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really be unique no no absolutely not i i know it's real because like dude you know how like uh
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people who were like hate gay people like end up being gay i was like dude i hated trans people
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like i fucking hated them like i'd watch like um my girlfriend tried to get me to watch transparent
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on amazon and i was just watching it and i was screaming at the tv like what what fucking i have
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to call this dude she what kind of fucking world is this and i would just like yell at you know like
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yell at the tv and then and then as i'm yelling i don't remember i said this and i'm like you know
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in some kind of life i would have been called i would have asked people to call me she that'd be
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fucking awesome but you don't see me fucking whining about it and she's like she's like are you
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transgender and i was like i don't fucking want to talk about i slammed the door i don't remember i said
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that so it was almost like this alternate you said it yeah yeah and i was did you ever feel like a
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little woman inside of you like crying out for help or crying out to be noticed or any of those
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things i didn't feel like any of that stuff yeah i don't know what that would feel like
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did you ever um see a movie and be like oh yeah i don't want to fuck that cartoon or something like
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brave no you think brave's hot or not who's brave brave is like this gen she's like an irish archer
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and she was a like a child star on disney or something like a but it's a cartoon it's a drawing
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it's not a real child it sounds like you think that she's hot is it okay to say i'll fuck a
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cartoon but not knowing what age it is i don't know i guess we'll figure out i'm a little bit
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worried about that all of a sudden i remember i watched this movie called the joy luck club
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and it was like all asian women and dude that made me that movie made me cry like nine times man i was
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i just watch it and i would relate to these asian women but i'm like that's weird i'm not an asian
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woman but that's like the movie that i watched that i'll think about all the time yeah why because
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there's something there's a feeling in there then that you must really relate to yeah like the um
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not being listened to and by society and you know the things that asian women have to go through and
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yeah it's just like weird like i don't remember the specifics but i remember like i can put myself
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in their shoes and like that's how i would feel and then it feels tragic you know like did you feel
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like you used to hurt a lot more now you don't yeah actually yeah a lot of my women friends weren't
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really surprised when i came out they were like oh my god that makes so much sense because like
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they would always tell me it's like you think like a woman because we would talk about life and stuff
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and then they would talk about boys and i would talk about girls and the way i talked about girls
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was like different than any guy they knew because i wouldn't i wouldn't you know be like oh yeah like
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her or whatever i'd be like man the way that she oh my god oh my god oh my god like look at look at
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what she look at what she i am to me look at what she i am to me what do you get what do you think
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i think this means like that's how i would do that i would do that and then they'd be like
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but you're a fucking girl and i'm like no fuck you i just i like her a lot i like her a lot
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dude so you were low all this time you thought you had a lot of friends who were girls you were
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low-key trying to fuck them all but as a woman yeah no no i was crazy no no no wait you know what's
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funny is damn you're like the benedict arnold of pussy dude no i wasn't trying to fuck them all
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and that's kind of what a different like my guy friends wouldn't understand i had a lot of female
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friends and i was attracted to all of them but they would always be like you want to fuck all
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your female friends and i'm like no actually i don't like i i like their company they'd be like
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oh so if you're saying right now if so and so was like i want to fuck you you'd say no and i'm like i
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didn't say i would say no i'm saying that i don't doesn't think it's like no if you wouldn't say no
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like i think guys look at it like more black and white yeah and women look at it more gray
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yeah i'm like i can be attracted to someone and then not want to fuck them yeah and then like if
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they wanted to fuck me i might have a weak moment or whatever i think that's more that's more female
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yeah and that's how i still look at it you'd i was at this party one time and this dude wanted to hook
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up with this chick really bad and everybody's drunk and she's like if you let my friend who is
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homosexual blow you then i'll fucking hook up with you right yeah he's like all right you know
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so this dude blew him and then she didn't let the fucking dude hook up with her oh that's awful
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yeah this dude just got blown did he have a good time huh did he did he enjoy himself i mean you know
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it was i think fourth of july that's pretty but the thing is that i remember there was this one game
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this fraternity played i went up to and it was at um this was in ithaca new york they had a school up
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there called cornell or cornelius cornelius i don't know cornelius maybe cornelius academy
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cornell cornell which one sounds right cornell okay big red or something was their fucking team
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name right stupid but they had this game called don't wake the bunny and it was they would put
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take marbles put them in a dude's ass that was passed out right oh god you know had to drink or
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whatever and i'm like i don't think that's you know this guy wakes up and has nine steelies in
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his ass you know why isn't that considered gay it's a very gay thing drawing dicks on your friends
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faces and shit you know they're calling me gay that's party dude that's native american culture i
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think that's the native american culture yeah has um chris had a question too that we were talking
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about when i was driving in chris what was that question you wanted to ask i was wondering if you
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felt like more respected inside of the comedy community or like just in the regular community
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since you've come out oh yeah if i'm as respected okay so um i feel like uh people who don't who don't
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see me perform respect me a lot less like they haven't seen me do comedy yet i'm like a caricature
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of a person but when they've seen me perform they do this switch and and they'll make sure
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they'll say this like it's it's funny every single person says it like wow you're really funny you know
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what trans has nothing to do with it you're just funny you know fuck trans and fuck you you're just
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a funny person i almost said that yeah like it doesn't even matter and i'm like i didn't say it
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mattered you know you're the one bringing it up so it's like i'll never get a fair assessment
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so like um back then when i went on stage right just a little asian dude um little robert yeah
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little robert would go on stage and people would be people would start laughing already because it's
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like asian people aren't funny so the bar so the so the bar would be really low black dude you have
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this crazy also self-hatred for asian people like if i see asian people i usually think they're pretty
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funny japanese people seem like they're asleep but also alive at the same time but every other type
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of asian to me seems really funny no i don't i don't think uh i think i think that that's a a rare
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assessment of asian people though like this is how i feel like if you're if you're asian you go on
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stage if you can put a complete sentence together the audience will kind of laugh because they're
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like whoa i didn't know an asian could put jokes together you know like that's kind of the race
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but like it's like you get like uh advantage due to racism and so now i get an extra advantage
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because i'm trans because they're like oh my god this trans person is actually funny like it's
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it surprises them so at the end they're like really blown away i think black people have the
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opposite problem like i remember this black guy was at an open mic and the bartender was like oh i
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think this guy's gonna be funny yeah and i'm like are you saying that because he's black oh yeah yeah
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he was just like a he's like a brand new comic doing it for two weeks and he bombed because he's
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fucking brand new so like people were like oh man i thought that was gonna be like the new fucking
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chris rock or something you know yeah there's a lot of expectations i feel like on black people yeah
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it's like you know it's like with basketball you know like you see a tall black guy you're like
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that dude definitely plays basketball or unfortunately works at the airport yeah like
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that's the way it's you know there's just there's definitely some you know stereotypes that are out
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there i can't believe you thought a little this a little do you think robert was a cool guy now
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that you're robin no i think robert had moments the i think robert tried his best but um definitely
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like hurt a lot of people you know like how just said mean things when i was mad you know when i
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would be mad at people and not knowing people's boundaries and like you know like a girl would
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block you on on aim aim i don't know about that but yeah i can imagine like yeah you get blocked and
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then you get a new screen name and be like why did you block me like i would do shit like that man
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it was fucked up like robert 002 yeah but um yeah you know i'm gonna go back to the comedy thing for
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a second i think i got a chip on my shoulder about my stand-up because i think i'm really good you know
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like i don't think i'm great at a lot of things but i think i'm a great comedian and i i one day i
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wanted to just be that i don't want it to be like a great trans comedian or a great vietnamese comedian
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or whatever i think that's the biggest chip on my shoulder i have right now well i respect you for
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being honest about that because i think that that's hard for something to be on for people to
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be honest about sometimes is a to say that we're good about something without you know sometimes i
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battle if like that's my ego talking if i were to say that or if that's a low self-confidence but to
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say that you know and hear you say that i respect you saying that and i agree like i saw your comedy
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and i didn't know what to think of you like i didn't know i met you through roast battle right you
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know in roast battle for people who aren't familiar it's where two comedians basically like insult each
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other right with jokes and then judges get to judge yeah and was that when jim carrey was there
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no no no it was a different night i think you were there the night i was battling connor mx badden
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yeah yeah yes yes i was and and i was like what i just never seen anyone like you before yeah you
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know and then after that i went home and watched your comedy and i was like holy shit this lady
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this lady yeah it's like uh this bitch is kind of hardcore a little bit yeah like transgender is
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kind of a secondary thing but it's weird because it's this thing you see first right yeah yeah but
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it's not your only thing right some people and this might be a generalization i don't give a fuck if it
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is really but they hang their hat on oh this is my thing right you know like you'll meet gay guys
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and like i'm gay you know or black people and i'm just you know i'm you know you know you know
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what i'm saying black power uh you know brown power blacks forever we we can't do it we all we do is
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do it you know yeah it's just like oh just hold on for a second guy let me get on board here or
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you'll meet a white guy that's just like you know fucking white you know man this shit this you know
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we got to whiten up you know i'm saying paint your fucking friends white dude yeah you know dip
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somebody in fucking white water yeah like what is white water yeah but i got trans jokes but they're
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always like they're always like i i switch to expectation of what i'm gonna say like like i'll
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say like um man i want to be one of those trans i want to be a trans woman that just starts shit for
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no reason like just walk into a store and be like why doesn't your women's restroom have any urinals
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you know like i'll say shit like that where it's like that's not a that's not a cool thing to say
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you know like i think it is cool because you're not you're not taking the normal path of like
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i'll be i'll just i'll say something that's evil so that the crowd doesn't expect me to just say
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nice things you know i'll say a lot of evil shit i'll see i'll see if i can turn on to get them to
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turn on me first and then i'll do comedy to see to see how to see how good these jokes really are
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well see that takes me back to a little bit more of like do you like it there's something been
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something inside of me i know this in my life that i wanted to make things and whether i did it
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consciously or not that i wanted to make things harder myself yeah because there was something
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inside of me that like if life wasn't like i was so used to feeling some type of a hurt or some type
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of uncomfort right that if i didn't keep things there somehow right that i wasn't like i wouldn't
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even know what was going on yeah i know what you're saying but i think if i stayed as robert
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that would have been the harder harder path this is the easier path for me like the outside world
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might be a little tougher but i feel like i can look at people now you know and i'd never give that up
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so so you know so there's no doubt that that that's a that this that this is your truth yeah
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yeah wow that's cool yeah because some people i think a lot of times we walk around just not
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knowing and maybe sometimes for some people it's a gender thing for some people i think it could even
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be like a job thing you're in a job and you're like i don't this you know this doesn't fit me you
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know but i walk by a paint store every day and i'm just fucking no but you know maybe i want to be a
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painter you know i think but you know i'm saying i think you know people don't know where they fit
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no but i still have that it's just not with the gender thing i see like you know i i had this moment
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about roast battle like i'm like should i be doing this like because like am i selling out my
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my gender for laughs or or am i being a badass and i'm stepping in you know like i have that moment
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where i'm like is this cool that i'm doing this and i still like question myself all the time like
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did i get this opportunity because i'm whatever and it's like and if i take it am i a token but then
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i think like fuck it you know your life's been tough enough just take it and then like blow them
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away like like make it so that you got there because of your gender or whatever and then once
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you're there it's like wow we should have actually just got you because you were good you know it's
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funny you say that because i think the same exact thing sometimes about you know like whenever i
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started in comedy i worked in reality television you know this is a kid i mean i was a kid at school
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right and basically won a contest you know and ended up on um on a show and i felt like that
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i didn't even know what i wanted to be or anything i didn't know that i wanted to be a comedian yet
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yeah and then people would judge me kind of for that or have a look in their eye or have a thing
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you know and it made it that's the only thing that drove me for about eight nine years yeah was that
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i'm going to show these people that i'm fucking good yeah yeah i have the same drive yeah because
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i didn't know that i wanted to be a comedian yeah you know whatever was going on before that
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i was a child 19 i was a teenager yeah technically yeah and you know but i'm going to show these like
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it just that's what put that chip on my shoulder that's what made me that was my stand you know
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yeah i think it's more like we get doors open for us that wouldn't be normally open
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and it's like that's good but then they look at you once the door is open like all right we're just
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letting you in because we want to see you yeah we're going to take a peek yeah almost we almost
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let you in just because we wanted to judge you yeah yeah it's how i feel a little bit and that city
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this city's full of that yeah it's great it's crazy how gross it is out here sometimes even though
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it's supposed to be so accepting do you notice any of that oh i don't well i don't live in la
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but whenever i visit it feels like everyone's trying to get on tv or like everyone is acting
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like there's a camera already on them i went to the in and out with my girlfriend we were like
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looking around and we were like everyone here is dressed up like they're on camera like what the
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fuck this is so weird like everywhere else like people it's like one in the morning you would be
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dressed in your pajamas or whatever you know but that's how that's what i know it's a lot of like
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uh plastic people yeah yeah would you learn about love from your girlfriend from staying with you
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through that transition i learned that uh if someone if anything if someone loves you enough they'll stick
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by you through anything that's that's like i don't know i'm kind of blown away that she stuck with me
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because i when i came out i was like i'm about to throw away my relationship that's what i thought
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jesus because people were thinking like oh what was this like a duo thing like you know she's a
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feminist she does a joke about it like people think that like she made me a woman like she's like
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like or whatever like a frankenstein yeah yeah but it wasn't that at all um no i just learned that um
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no it's kind of corny but like love kind of conquers all but i also learned that
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if you love yourself enough you will throw away everything to be who you are the fact that i was
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able to like come out like and go my mom might not love me anymore my dad might not talk to me
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anymore and my material is going to be gone my girl my girlfriend might leave me but like i need to do
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this right now for me that's that's what love is to me yeah damn
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that's powerful it's so hard for us to make choices sometimes that we know are the best for
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ourselves yeah you know that that was an easy one for me it was an easy one it wasn't it was easy as
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in like i know this is what i gotta do but the consequences were going to be the most difficult
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oh but looking at the stack and the consequences that's when it really got yeah
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yeah it's so hard man sometimes to make the decision that we know is like are the truest for
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us yeah you know or even the right decision like in the face of even little things like
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standing up for somebody whenever somebody else is you know fucking with someone and you're making
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fun of somebody and you're right there yeah you know or even like you know like when someone's
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like oh do you remember so and so do you know so and so even if you don't just being like you're
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always like yeah oh yeah i remember them or i know them yeah you know it's like we just don't want
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to be i don't know if it's wrong we just i don't know we're not included we just we don't want
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anything that makes us feel left out yeah no i hear you i know what you're saying i don't know i i
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guess i i guess i'm kind of used to like not being part of a group like i've always been the weird one
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in the group every group i've ever been in maybe it's on purpose i don't know maybe i'm just pushing
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people away for no reason who knows right like maybe it's all subconscious um do you get any
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clues in any of that ever whenever i'm in a group and i get comfortable i kind of think like am i an
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individual anymore like and i kind of freak out a little bit like i like hanging out with people
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one-on-one but in a group i get i fucking freak out dude like i don't want to be part of a group i want
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to be my own person and so it's very isolating well what are you scared of that the group might
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what no that i might be part of a group and i'm not myself anymore like you look at a group you know
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and you can't right you can't be like oh that person's the best or whatever right because it's
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a group it's a group you know i want to be like an island like that's how that's how fucking good i
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am like i transcend all of it so that's kind of a mental illness i think is like this narcissism i have
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you know to want to be the best and to want to be the most unique and all that stuff and to be away
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from groups would you be surprised if something else like so now you've switched into a different
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gender if you if you know you came up one day and took it to took you know found another thing in life
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that makes us more unique or more rare or more separate and you chose that as well would you be
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shocked if your brain started to lead you there would you then think like oh maybe this is a clue that
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you know there's something going on that i'm not seeing i don't know and i'm not trying to lead you
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to that i'm just no no no i hear i hear what you're saying i think that the fact that transgender is so
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rare is a coincidence like if it was that if my truth was that i'm gay which is like kind of more
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common now then i would have said that you know like if i saw like there is like a group of people
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who are like they're going to come out and there's even less of them and they're even more oppressed i
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wouldn't be like maybe i can do that you know i i don't think that that would be the case yeah i
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would there would be part of me that would be like man that would be fucking awesome man i could be even
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more unique of course that exists yeah but it's not it wouldn't be like i would go through with it or
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i would feel it or anything i've got a couple questions i wrote down just on the way in um do you
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have any regrets about about what about my life about switching over to being a woman nope
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um do you ever get the feeling that like your body is just like a shell and that there's
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that your being is more does that make any sense i wish i did i hate my body yeah it's fucking gross
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yeah did you hate it as much before as you do now that's that hasn't changed has it i bet i hated i
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hated more than i used to really because i'm more uh i'm more critical of myself like when i came out
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i started noticing all these like pimples on my face like like i didn't give a shit before as a
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guy and then as a girl i was like oh my god you gotta cover that up oh my god you know you gotta
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cover up the fat you gotta get clothes that fit well and were you more self-conscious now yeah i'm
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way more self-conscious now like like uh when i feel fat that's when i wish i was a guy because
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like feeling like a fat girl is like really fucking like awful you know because fat girls get treated so
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horribly oh you ever seen a fat girl eat a uh snow cone in the rain no oh beautiful do you think
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that because now you're saying like you feel more self-conscious as a woman do you feel like there's
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something inside of you that covets feeling more rare or pushes you towards separation
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yeah but i don't think that has to do with gender with gender yeah you think so so you're able to
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notice like okay this was one thing yeah that was definite and true and sure yeah and then that
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these other things are just regular things or just other things about me yeah yeah i separate those
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things like did you ever concern worry that that was one in the same i feel like that would be a huge
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concern i'm like holy shit i just have this ego or something inside of me no it never it never feels
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that way i think it's more like people perceive it that that could be it and then i think i i could see
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where they're coming from and i can't explain to them how that's not the case you know that's the
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frustration for me is i can't explain how separate they are i think you've done a good job here just
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talking because it's very it makes i believe it yeah and it's clear and that would be that wasn't a
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concern however you came in it's just something that i thought about as we're talking okay i remember
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when i was young my brother and i there's a photo of us putting on my mother's dress you know
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because my mother raised us yeah um and we had on my mother's dresses and uh and he had on we're on
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her bed like just playing as kids you know and my brother was very he had like kind of tan skin he
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looked people called us mexicans all the time because we had you know kind of you know a little
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bit of olive skin right and my brother my brother was pretty dark yeah they would call us spick and
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they would use racial slurs but i mean there was nobody around yeah so i was like fuck yeah you know
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you're only get called that because you're basically you could have been in a fire once
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and people were like look at this fit yeah you know what i'm saying like uh those are third degree
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burns okay like sometimes it's just just difference you know when people don't have anything or they're
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you know there's such an education sometimes it's difference that makes people point yeah um but i
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remember i was putting on these dresses and my mother's and he had the the the kind of beige one or the
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pink one and i had the purple one yeah and i'm fucking i don't all i remember is i just remember
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man i bet he wishes he had this purple yeah and i don't know what that means i don't know if it
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means anything yeah except that i look bad i look pretty good in a purple you know i always loved pink
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man did you i loved it i still do man like i wore a pink top to like the first day of the taping oh
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yeah that's right you did that's the first that's the first outfit i bought what you saw that's why i
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have a special like connection to it have any guys come up to you and or girls come up to you and
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asked you like uh for like advice in that world yeah it's like how do you do your makeup like how
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how do you accessorize no advice in navigating your like you know your own genes and thoughts and
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you know uh no i get more ask for advice about just like cosmetic stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah it's wild
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i mean i feel like i'm talking with a woman yeah because you are you know yeah i like it dude
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um yeah we got to do some shows one of these days you'll have to come out on the road with me
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somewhere i would love to i mean i don't would your crowd like me you think yeah i think no
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yeah 100 percent chris perez is here man he's latino dude because i think he's non-practicing
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pretty much i always felt like the joke i had the joke i had with theo is that i always like
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man our audiences probably hate each other you know what i mean like like the audience that likes
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me probably doesn't like you and the audience that likes you probably doesn't like me
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i mean we both have bad hair kind of like my hair looks great i mean yeah it looks better than mine
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but when people saw the picture of us together like they were like in what fucking universe are
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these two hanging out so that's that you know i would love to man i'd love to go on the road and
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do comedy and stuff yeah well good all right because i'd love to take you out there sometime
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do you feel like other like diverse people like black people are like oh fuck this bitch trumps us
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you know what i'm saying do you ever get that i feel like white guys look at me that way yeah i
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think it's like i don't want to say it's a hard time for white guys in comedy but i'm going to say
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it's not really a commodity as it used to be right like people are looking for diversity now yeah but
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who knows how long that'll last well it's what made me think either like we need somebody that's
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diverse and that's unique and i was thinking well who would look kind of unique to me who would come
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across as smarter than me yeah and i was like oh maybe this girl robin tran would do it yeah and like
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is there a real last name really tran well i couldn't remember your last name and then i'm
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like it's it's tran yeah uh which well that's one of my first jokes yeah yeah it's my real name
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you know it's not like you don't have to look far for clues no yeah i didn't just come out for the
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pun you know like jeopardy is everything for a pun that's a long way for a joke yeah um well thanks
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for coming here and just sitting in and chatting with us and thinking about stuff of course man thanks so
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much for having me yeah i appreciate it let's do it uh let's do it again soon yeah sure i'd love to
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um cool we'll put all robin's links and everything at the bottom of the episode
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okay and uh i'll see you guys this week i'm going to be in new jersey um i'll see you guys there
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and what else i think that's it as always uh thank our sponsor gray block pizza
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cool thanks man yeah we don't have uh chris mic'd up but we'll get him mic'd up next time
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uh and thank you guys for listening robin thanks so much thanks so much for having me man
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