Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Alex Jones SUES Sandy Hook Families In SHOCK Twist Alleging FRAUD w-Milo Yiannopoulos

00:00:00.000 You know,

00:00:22.000 I never thought that I would be opening a show by saying Alex Jones sues the Sandy Hook families because it seems so strange and inverted but everything is crazy anyway so So that is the story, and I feel like it's so bizarro world, but it's literally happening, that we have to leave with it, despite the fact that World War III may be starting.

00:00:45.000 North Korea has deployed troops to fight with Russia.

00:00:47.000 A Chinese vessel has been detained in the Baltic for potentially destroying undersea cables, which some think is the precursor to a larger conflict.

00:00:55.000 And yeah, it's a crazy story.

00:00:58.000 And then there's a bunch of other stuff.

00:01:00.000 I don't know.

00:01:00.000 Congress is banning men from the women's bathrooms, and it's caused this whole controversy.

00:01:07.000 There's a funny video earlier where The View was forced to issue a legal disclaimer that the smear against Matt Gaetz is unfounded, should be considered with great skepticism.

00:01:16.000 And the DOJ brought no charges.

00:01:17.000 So I figured considering, I don't know, World War III or whatever, maybe, let's start with the weirder domestic story that'll make people, I don't know, enjoy life a little bit.

00:01:28.000 Despite it being a crazy story, at least it's weird enough.

00:01:30.000 Controversy.

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00:02:00.000 The reason why I say you want to become a member for the members-only uncensored show is because Milo is here.

00:02:05.000 Well, thanks for saying that.

00:02:06.000 Well, you're funny.

00:02:07.000 You're a funny guy.

00:02:07.000 It's going to be raucous.

00:02:09.000 I don't give a lot of interviews, but I do like to return from time to time to your show because you've been so good to me over the years.

00:02:15.000 Inviting me on when it wasn't always easy.

00:02:17.000 You know, before I was getting phone calls from a certain family to say thanks.

00:02:23.000 Well, you're a fun guy and we love you.

00:02:25.000 Well, thank you for having me.

00:02:27.000 Who are you?

00:02:28.000 What do you do?

00:02:28.000 Introduce yourself.

00:02:29.000 Who are you?

00:02:30.000 I can't give a worse answer than my dear friend Hotep Jesus did last night.

00:02:36.000 I'm an author and whatnot, and just actually, I think we'll get into it later, but I was the CEO of Yeezy for Kanye West until very recently, worked for just about everybody in conservative politics, and the author Of

00:03:06.000 a new book.

00:03:07.000 And we'll get into that later.

00:03:09.000 But yes, I'll tell you all about that.

00:03:12.000 I would describe myself as the Jack Bauer of Republican politics.

00:03:18.000 The guy that they have to disavow, but that gets the job done.

00:03:21.000 Gets the job done.

00:03:23.000 All right, this would be fun.

00:03:24.000 We got Elad hanging out.

00:03:25.000 Hey everybody, what's up?

00:03:26.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.

00:03:28.000 I'm a journalist here at TimCast.

00:03:29.000 Milo, you're a political force to be reckoned with.

00:03:32.000 I'm excited to hear more about the book and what's going on in Washington.

00:03:36.000 Shane, what's up?

00:03:37.000 What's up?

00:03:38.000 Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live.

00:03:40.000 It's good to see Milo.

00:03:41.000 Welcome back.

00:03:42.000 And everyone thought I was joking two months ago when I said Alex Jones should sue the Sandy Hook families.

00:03:47.000 And here we are.

00:03:47.000 What's up, Phil?

00:03:48.000 Hello, everybody.

00:03:49.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:03:50.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:03:52.000 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:03:54.000 Tim?

00:03:54.000 Let's go.

00:03:55.000 Here's the story from the Wall Street Journal.

00:03:57.000 Alex Jones sues the Onion and Sandy Hook families over InfoWars deal.

00:04:02.000 Attorneys for Jones say the hysterical website made illegitimate bid for InfoWars and plans to misuse intellectual property.

00:04:10.000 Okay, so, you know, Alex Jones, he got sued by the Sandy Hook families.

00:04:13.000 The Sandy Hook families demanded the maximum penalty, which would have been $2.75 trillion, or the GDP of France.

00:04:20.000 It's not a joke.

00:04:21.000 That's literally what happened.

00:04:23.000 I know, it's crazy times.

00:04:25.000 Now, InfoWars up for auction.

00:04:27.000 And I'll give you the quick gist of the story as to what's happening right now.

00:04:30.000 So The Onion puts in a bid for what Alex Jones' lawyers and another company, it's First United American Companies, that's what it's called?

00:04:37.000 First United American Companies.

00:04:38.000 They say that The Onion offered $1.75 million.

00:04:41.000 However, they got a waiver from the Sandy Hook families, which was to apply the debt from Alex Jones to the sale, to increase the value of the sale, to then forgive the debt.

00:04:52.000 It seems to make no sense.

00:04:54.000 If what they're alleging is true, it's basically the Sandy Hooks family saying, Alex Jones owes us money.

00:05:01.000 So the money he owes us, we will pass off a debt waiver to The Onion to then apply our own debt to the product that we're supposed to be receiving.

00:05:10.000 It makes no sense.

00:05:12.000 It's circuitous.

00:05:12.000 So Alex Jones says at another company...

00:05:15.000 First United offered $3.5 million, which should have won the bid.

00:05:18.000 But they changed the rules, they made it strange, and now the accusation from First United and Alex Jones is that The Onion is colluding with the families to basically bypass the legal rules of a public auction to sell the company, and that within the Infowars properties are Alex Jones' personal IP, I believe he's saying it relates to his name and likeness, and that it cannot be sold, so it's improperly being sold.

00:05:42.000 And that's the gist of the lawsuit right now.

00:05:44.000 So now it's...

00:05:45.000 He's suing them?

00:05:47.000 I mean, look, the way the whole thing goes, like trying to get the GDP of France out of somebody and then ending up with 1.5 billion dollars?

00:05:54.000 It's just stupid.

00:05:56.000 None of it makes sense.

00:05:56.000 I spoke to a couple of people, including one well-known homosexual billionaire.

00:06:04.000 And the plan originally was to have somebody who's fond of Alex buy the whole thing and then just leave him in charge.

00:06:13.000 So there would be no effective change from the point of view of the viewers.

00:06:16.000 And although Alex would lose ownership of the company, he would still have control of the broadcasts and nothing really would change.

00:06:23.000 That was the plan.

00:06:25.000 Obviously it ended up being a stitch-up and it went to the guys it was always supposed to go to.

00:06:30.000 But yes, there is an IP issue here where contractually, if your image rights are licensed to a company, that company can't sell your image rights to somebody else without your permission.

00:06:44.000 Normally.

00:06:45.000 So, yes, they tried to sell – they overplayed their hand because they got so overconfident with this huge trillion dollar judgment.

00:06:52.000 And they tried to sell Alex Jones' right to call himself Alex Jones, you know, as part and parcel of the assets of Infowars.

00:07:01.000 Right.

00:07:01.000 And his ex-account.

00:07:02.000 You want to make him an effigy.

00:07:03.000 Exactly.

00:07:03.000 And you can't do that.

00:07:04.000 Right.

00:07:05.000 Because Alex Jones has licensed the likeness and name of Alex Jones to Infowars, which is the ordinary way of doing things.

00:07:12.000 And so, you know, what they may end up with is some assets.

00:07:18.000 By the way, that valuation is ridiculous.

00:07:20.000 I mean, in the...

00:07:23.000 In the election year in 2016, I think Alex did like 60 million in product sales.

00:07:28.000 Like, I don't know why it's being undervalued like that.

00:07:32.000 Probably for the benefit of the onion so they can buy it, right?

00:07:34.000 Because that in itself is another humiliation ritual, right?

00:07:38.000 I mean, Alex Jones' business, I can't speak to his profitability.

00:07:41.000 I don't have visibility on that.

00:07:43.000 But Alex has been a friend of mine for years.

00:07:44.000 And I mean, the guy ships product like he would not believe.

00:07:49.000 I mean, he's the most successful person in this space.

00:07:51.000 And there's no close second, right?

00:07:53.000 It's a billion dollar humiliation ritual.

00:07:55.000 It is a billion dollar business, right?

00:07:58.000 Infowars is a billion dollar business because they just ship that much product, right?

00:08:03.000 With the brand value and the amount of stuff that they sell, to sell it for a couple of million is its own kind of humiliation ritual.

00:08:11.000 I think this stopped being about grieving parents a long time ago.

00:08:14.000 Well, you know, I hate to say this because you never know about people's interior lives, but I've never really understood how money makes grief better.

00:08:25.000 And I've never really understood how if your child was taken away from you by some lunatic, how $2 million is going to make you feel better.

00:08:34.000 To my mind, it would just make you feel worse.

00:08:35.000 And there are certain...

00:08:38.000 I won't name them, of course, but there are certain specific parents of these dead kids that have behaved in such a way that...

00:08:50.000 I don't need to finish the sentence, do I? They also happen to have a book coming out soon.

00:08:53.000 They have a book coming out soon as well, these parents.

00:08:56.000 Interesting how that lines up.

00:08:57.000 I've never seen anything like it in history, parents cashing in on the deaths of their children.

00:09:02.000 I've never seen anything like it in my life.

00:09:04.000 And I've got to say, tread carefully out of respect for Tim, but I will just say that...

00:09:13.000 This is not how grieving parents typically behave.

00:09:17.000 This is not how I would behave if I lost somebody who I loved.

00:09:21.000 And it's a very peculiar set of circumstances.

00:09:24.000 And the more they go for Alex over this, the more questions I have about this story in the first place.

00:09:28.000 That's all I'll say.

00:09:29.000 The auction sounds like a hoax.

00:09:30.000 Global Tetrahedron doesn't even sound...

00:09:32.000 I don't know if it's a real company.

00:09:33.000 The CEO, I think, is...

00:09:34.000 I mean, you couldn't make it sound...

00:09:35.000 You couldn't make it sound any more satanic, could you?

00:09:37.000 Global Tetrahedron, that sounds like a nice guy.

00:09:40.000 That's the Onion's joke.

00:09:42.000 The Onion was trying to make this one big joke.

00:09:45.000 The issue is, did they legitimately offer a bid, or is the trustee just saying they win no matter what?

00:09:50.000 If the argument is Alex Jones owes...

00:09:53.000 Think about it this way.

00:09:54.000 They say Alex Jones owns 1.4 something billion dollars.

00:09:57.000 If the Sandy Hook families can apply any amount of that to anyone else's deal, it's literally impossible for anyone to win that auction.

00:10:06.000 That means there's no auction.

00:10:08.000 I mean, Sandy Hook families just decide who can have Infowars.

00:10:10.000 But this is a bankruptcy proceeding.

00:10:12.000 Nobody gets to just decide.

00:10:13.000 There are rules.

00:10:14.000 And there's a procedure to be followed.

00:10:17.000 And if Infowars is worth a certain amount of money, there has to be a tender process.

00:10:21.000 I think Alex said the quote was, the highest bid didn't win, the best bid won.

00:10:26.000 Right.

00:10:27.000 But you don't, you know, in a bankruptcy proceeding when you have, there are a lot of rules, and you don't just get to say, oh, well, there's somebody offering $50 million, but I'm going to take the $5 million because I think they're going to do better with the assets.

00:10:40.000 Like, that's not how bankruptcy works.

00:10:42.000 And so, I mean, thank God for Alex because he's one of those people that just will not take it, you know?

00:10:49.000 The best part of the day when the administrative state, those thugs, went into his studio and shut it down, all the leftists online cheering, in 30 minutes, Alex Jones is in a new studio broadcasting.

00:10:58.000 You can't stop him.

00:11:00.000 That is quintessential.

00:11:01.000 He would be broadcasting for one of the tanks.

00:11:05.000 It's going to take him 30 days to get the title, so we'll broadcast from here.

00:11:08.000 No, I mean, that's Alex through and through.

00:11:11.000 And let me tell you also that the conversations that I have with people who are in a position to buy InfoWars for its true value, they are ready and willing to set them up all over again.

00:11:21.000 And the value is, nobody cares about InfoWars.

00:11:24.000 People care about Alex.

00:11:25.000 And he's not going away.

00:11:28.000 There are people with the money to do this, I can tell you, that are happy to set him up in exactly the position he's in today.

00:11:36.000 And the way that bankruptcy works in most states, I presume it's the same in Texas, is that after the proceedings, anything you make afterwards is not subject to the seizures and to the freezes and all the rest of it.

00:11:50.000 So anything that somebody might gift No, no, no.

00:12:13.000 They don't need to pay him a pittance.

00:12:16.000 It depends on the nature of the bankruptcy proceedings, but they can either pay him nothing and they just give him the company in seven years, or they can pay him a fortune and give him all his money back.

00:12:26.000 Either way, you lose.

00:12:27.000 Either way, the bad guys lose.

00:12:28.000 And they will.

00:12:30.000 It's just a smear campaign.

00:12:31.000 I don't know what the parents, what their motives are for sure, but they seem like they're...

00:12:35.000 They have said it's literally to stop Alex Jones to make it so he can't do his work.

00:12:39.000 They do blame him.

00:12:41.000 They can't, and there's no way to do it.

00:12:43.000 There's absolutely no way to shut that man up.

00:12:45.000 You will never be able to do it.

00:12:48.000 Okay, fine.

00:12:48.000 Are you taking my Twitter account?

00:12:50.000 I'll just open a new one.

00:12:51.000 But they can't take his Twitter account because Elon owns it.

00:12:54.000 Yes, technically, yeah.

00:12:55.000 Ex-lawyers were at one of the hearings, I think.

00:12:57.000 Right.

00:12:58.000 To say, like, you can't take his Twitter.

00:12:59.000 That's crazy.

00:13:00.000 Is that what they said?

00:13:00.000 I don't know if that's exactly what they said.

00:13:02.000 I'm paraphrasing.

00:13:02.000 I don't know that they would need to make an appearance to say that these companies have already asserted this in other cases where they said when people were selling their accounts, there was like a statement.

00:13:12.000 This is like 10 years ago.

00:13:13.000 They said, you don't own your account and we can disable it if we see that it's been transferred.

00:13:17.000 Almost every...

00:13:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:13:19.000 Almost every...

00:13:21.000 Almost every account that you have with any social media service, you are in reality kind of operating a sort of free license to use your account on their services, which in most cases is terrible because they can ban you without recourse or they can do whatever.

00:13:35.000 But in this case, it's good because there's an owner who has a say outside of Infowars.

00:13:44.000 Here's the abovethelaw.com demon ghoul Alex Jones sues Sandy Hook parents.

00:13:49.000 I just...

00:13:50.000 I don't know what world these people live in.

00:13:52.000 I've been watching a lot of the fake news stuff, the MSNBC stuff.

00:13:55.000 It's all really funny to see them start groveling.

00:13:56.000 But it's just...

00:13:58.000 It doesn't work anymore.

00:14:00.000 These smears, the smears against Matt Gaetz, the smears against Alex Jones, the smears against Brett Kavanaugh, whatever it is, Donald Trump, I just, nobody cares.

00:14:06.000 We're over it.

00:14:08.000 Trump won.

00:14:09.000 Republicans won.

00:14:10.000 Regular people are just like, shut up, we don't want to hear it anymore.

00:14:13.000 Alex is going to win in the end.

00:14:14.000 They didn't just win.

00:14:16.000 Did you see that map of county by county?

00:14:18.000 Oh yeah.

00:14:19.000 The swings?

00:14:19.000 They didn't just win.

00:14:20.000 Yeah, it was a crushing defeat.

00:14:22.000 This is a generational rejection.

00:14:26.000 But have you seen Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Charlemagne, Micah and Joe, all of these liberals, Ezra Klein, who a day before the election were like, Trump can't win, Kamala's gonna win, this is bad.

00:14:38.000 A day later are like, well, you know, the Democrats, they should have got their act together.

00:14:41.000 But that's because unlike in conservative media, they're paid to do it.

00:14:46.000 They're paid to do that.

00:14:47.000 And then when she loses, the check stopped coming.

00:14:50.000 And the bots that are...

00:14:53.000 Inflating their view accounts and enlarging their numbers on live streams suddenly stop showing up because no one's paying the bills anymore.

00:15:02.000 The paid subscribers dry up.

00:15:05.000 I mean, watching David Pakman, I don't know why I particularly enjoy David Pakman's tears versus the others.

00:15:11.000 He's not a particularly distinguished figure, but there's some reason.

00:15:13.000 For some reason, I just enjoy his misery more than anybody else's.

00:15:17.000 Watching him just sort of act mystified as to how he could have lost 5,000 paid subscribers.

00:15:24.000 Bro, you know they're not real.

00:15:25.000 You know you're not popular.

00:15:27.000 Do you own a mirror?

00:15:29.000 Have you ever seen your show?

00:15:32.000 Do you actually think that people would pay for this?

00:15:35.000 He might think he does, though.

00:15:37.000 No, it's impossible.

00:15:39.000 I want to jump to this next story real quick, but I do have a quick question.

00:15:42.000 Have you played Baldur's Gate 3?

00:15:45.000 I haven't.

00:15:46.000 Have you heard about it?

00:15:47.000 I've heard that there's a character based on me.

00:15:49.000 It's literally you, no question.

00:15:51.000 No, the developer told me.

00:15:53.000 Really?

00:15:53.000 When I bought the game...

00:15:55.000 It's like a gay vampire or something, right?

00:15:57.000 Yeah.

00:15:58.000 He's not...

00:15:59.000 All the characters are gay, like the whole game.

00:16:01.000 It's a given in a AAA game these days.

00:16:04.000 Everybody's gay, I get it.

00:16:05.000 But it's actually a function of...

00:16:07.000 The funny thing is, originally, they were all gay because they couldn't code between male and female, so they just said characters can love characters, and that's how you ended up with this.

00:16:15.000 In this circumstance, it's literally just that they let characters...

00:16:17.000 They're all bi.

00:16:19.000 Is that the name?

00:16:21.000 Asterion.

00:16:21.000 Asterion, that's right.

00:16:22.000 Sorry.

00:16:22.000 I bought Baldur's Gate 3.

00:16:25.000 Within three minutes or whatever, you encounter Asterion.

00:16:28.000 And the moment I met him, I was like, that's Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:16:31.000 Somebody reached out and told me.

00:16:33.000 But if you want to play a game featuring me, I have two better recommendations.

00:16:37.000 The first one is Milo Tossa, which is not quite as exciting as it sounds.

00:16:42.000 It's a game that came out in 2016 where you play an Iranian jihadi and you have to throw me off a roof and hit a target on the floor.

00:16:51.000 That's Milo Tosso.

00:16:52.000 It's on Steam.

00:16:57.000 And the other one is Postal 2.

00:17:01.000 There's a DLC called, I think it's called Paradise Lost.

00:17:05.000 Postal 2, each level is a day of the weekend.

00:17:07.000 On Wednesday, there's a coat check assistant.

00:17:10.000 They actually reached out to me and I did the voices for it.

00:17:12.000 Oh, wow.

00:17:13.000 Postal 2 is one of those hyper-violent, you know...

00:17:16.000 Is it on Steam?

00:17:18.000 On scene.

00:17:19.000 I think it's called Postal to Paradise Lost.

00:17:21.000 So I can only endorse games that I did the voiceovers for.

00:17:25.000 Baldur's Gate 3 will be hearing from my lawyers.

00:17:28.000 Yeah, so Astarion is a vampire spawn, and his character arc is that you can have him basically slaughter thousands of innocents to use their souls to become an ascended vampire.

00:17:40.000 Sort of analogous to my career, yeah.

00:17:43.000 He's got my 2018 hair as well, which you can't see today because I have, well, another lawsuit I'm shortly to be involved in.

00:17:54.000 Joe Burrow, if you're watching this, and you might be, I have seen you stealing my swag.

00:18:00.000 Has anyone else seen this?

00:18:02.000 No.

00:18:02.000 Joe Burrow?

00:18:03.000 The lesbian coach?

00:18:04.000 Put him up.

00:18:05.000 Call him up.

00:18:06.000 Call him up.

00:18:07.000 Call him up, Serge.

00:18:08.000 Serge, Joe Burrow.

00:18:10.000 Joe Burrow has been appearing in...

00:18:14.000 Joe Burrow?

00:18:14.000 Isn't that his name?

00:18:15.000 The quarterback?

00:18:17.000 Yeah, he's been appearing.

00:18:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:18.000 He's been showing up in frosted tips and pastel colors, and people will not stop sending me this.

00:18:25.000 He's been stealing my swag.

00:18:29.000 I've got a new style icon, as discerning and intelligent viewers will tell.

00:18:34.000 My new style icon is, of course, Tim.

00:18:36.000 Good choice.

00:18:37.000 How am I doing?

00:18:39.000 Am I pulling off?

00:18:39.000 You're doing well.

00:18:41.000 You've got an extra flair with the gold and everything.

00:18:43.000 Well, I had to bring a little Milo to it.

00:18:45.000 That's right.

00:18:46.000 I did.

00:18:46.000 But my new style icon is Tim Paul, because my previous look has been stolen by Joe Burrow.

00:18:52.000 Let's jump to this story from Mediaite.

00:18:57.000 This clip is hilarious.

00:19:02.000 Let's play it for you guys.

00:19:03.000 So, I'll set it up.

00:19:05.000 They have been disparaging Matt Gaetz over these debunked allegations.

00:19:09.000 They were then forced, presumably by legal, to issue this disclaimer.

00:19:13.000 It's a TV cabinet.

00:19:15.000 Maybe he's doing it because he wants to make sure they look good on screen.

00:19:20.000 Sunny, you have a legal note.

00:19:22.000 I do have a legal note.

00:19:23.000 Thank you, Whoopi.

00:19:24.000 She's dying.

00:19:26.000 Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling the claims, quote, invented, and saying in a statement to ABC News that this false smear following a three-year criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism, that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought.

00:19:45.000 We'll be right back.

00:19:47.000 She was dying inside.

00:19:49.000 There's a little twitch.

00:19:51.000 There's a little sort of black girl pissed off twitch.

00:19:53.000 I've never seen a human being be so angry about dodging a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

00:19:59.000 ABC just waterboarded her.

00:20:00.000 Yeah, they're doing her a favor for God's sake.

00:20:02.000 Jimmy Kimmel made several statements of fact last night.

00:20:05.000 On his show.

00:20:05.000 And it's also ABC. I don't know how he stated these things.

00:20:10.000 He didn't say that Matt Gaetz is being investigated.

00:20:12.000 He said Matt Gaetz did these things.

00:20:14.000 So he comes under entertainment.

00:20:16.000 The View in ABC falls under the news division.

00:20:18.000 So the reason that they have to regularly issue these kinds of denials is that The View is technically a news show.

00:20:25.000 Yeah, but it doesn't mean anything.

00:20:26.000 That's not a distinction for defamation lawsuits.

00:20:29.000 No, it's not, but it means that they fall under a different standards department internally at ABC. So ABC's...

00:20:36.000 And it does make a difference, for instance, for satire.

00:20:39.000 It does make a difference, for instance...

00:20:40.000 Comedians have far more license to say things than news anchors.

00:20:44.000 Practically speaking, right?

00:20:45.000 So if you are a late-night comedian...

00:20:49.000 You have an automatic presumption that much of what you're saying is either comedic, satirical, pastiche, or some sort of burlesque, whatever.

00:20:56.000 If you are a news show informing the public about what happened today, and the view comes under ABC's news department, it's a completely different team of lawyers, and they have to conform to the same standards, at least in principle, as ABC's nightly news.

00:21:10.000 That's the first time she ever struck the tone of a talking head.

00:21:12.000 That's right.

00:21:13.000 That is why you will – if you are a regular View Watcher, as I am, because I love to intrude on private grief.

00:21:19.000 I prefer Chicken City.

00:21:21.000 If you are a regular View Watcher, you will regularly see them issue these kinds of statements because they fall under the legal team of the news department.

00:21:31.000 But, you know, the – The other story on this one, Jimmy Kimmel.

00:21:35.000 It's obviously not entertainment, is it?

00:21:37.000 Jimmy Kimmel comes out and said, Matt Gaetz did these things.

00:21:40.000 It's disgusting.

00:21:41.000 How could he be so stupid that he did do these things?

00:21:44.000 I mean, this is defamation per se.

00:21:47.000 Accusing someone of committing pedophilia is the most egregious form of defamation.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, but as a public figure in America, you have no defamation.

00:21:53.000 Not defamation per se.

00:21:54.000 Well, in principle, yes, but nobody wins and nobody ever brings those cases because by suing, all you do is indelibly link your name with the allegation.

00:22:06.000 So there's no win condition for Matt Gaetz here.

00:22:09.000 You have to just let it go and that's what the comedians know.

00:22:11.000 So if Matt Gaetz sues for something like that, all anybody will ever remember is that Matt Gaetz had to defend himself against X, right?

00:22:17.000 So that's all anyone will remember.

00:22:19.000 So it doesn't really matter.

00:22:20.000 The public opinion.

00:22:21.000 Yeah.

00:22:21.000 Do you think Gates' nomination for AG will eventually be hung up in Congress or in Senate or what?

00:22:26.000 No, I think they'll do recess like they said.

00:22:28.000 And I also think that if you cast your mind back to the last 10 attorney generals, I think he'll do a better job than any of them.

00:22:34.000 I think that all of Trump's appointments, with the possible exception of Dr.

00:22:37.000 Oz, who I'm just like pretending I didn't hear.

00:22:40.000 What's Oz doing again?

00:22:42.000 It's a bit of...

00:22:43.000 Irritating Milo?

00:22:44.000 Yes, a set of medical things.

00:22:45.000 I mean...

00:22:47.000 When I heard Dr.

00:22:48.000 Oz, I made a vow with myself.

00:22:50.000 I don't hear it.

00:22:52.000 I don't see it.

00:22:53.000 What's your beef with Dr.

00:22:54.000 Oz, specifically?

00:22:56.000 Insubstantial, creepy weirdo.

00:22:58.000 My problem with him was that he's a loser, that he lost the Senate race to John Fetterman, who, interestingly enough, said that he'd actually vote to confirm Mehmet Oz.

00:23:08.000 Yeah, well, between a Republican and a Democrat, I guess I'd prefer the Republican.

00:23:12.000 No, no, no.

00:23:13.000 I would have voted for Fetterman.

00:23:14.000 Fetterman is like a human...

00:23:16.000 These are the split ticket voters in Pennsylvania, the British split ticket voters.

00:23:20.000 Which is why, by the way, that...

00:23:23.000 So I sometimes come on this show as...

00:23:25.000 Well, whenever I come on the show, in fact.

00:23:28.000 You can think of me as a sort of...

00:23:29.000 You're going to worry or wonder what's going to happen in the next six months.

00:23:32.000 I'll just tell you, as I did with DeSantis last time I was here.

00:23:35.000 You can think of me as Cassandra in that way.

00:23:37.000 You know about Cassandra.

00:23:38.000 Who's the high priestess who warns of impending disaster and isn't listened to in the Trojan War, you know, and then she's murdered offstage in Aeschylus' Agamemnon.

00:23:49.000 When Pennsylvania voters go to the polls, they...

00:23:57.000 For some reason, have a little bit of a soft spot for people who aren't quite there.

00:24:02.000 And this is why – this is the real reason the Biden family and the Obamas are so pissed off with Kamala because there is a very real prospect that if Biden had stayed in, he would have won again.

00:24:14.000 Not just because there are purple states that would have stayed with Biden that didn't for Kamala, but because Pennsylvania, as the pivotal, the key state in this election, already demonstrated that they were willing and able to vote for somebody who wasn't quite all there out of sympathy.

00:24:29.000 The female voters of Pennsylvania in particular.

00:24:32.000 They've already voted Feterman over Oz and they might well have gone for Biden over Trump.

00:24:36.000 This is the real reason that they're all pissed off because Kamala in her arrogance possibly cost Biden a second term.

00:24:46.000 So I would have voted for Fetterman.

00:24:48.000 I thought he was sympathetic.

00:24:49.000 I thought he was normal.

00:24:50.000 The way that he has been speaking about Trump shows that he's one of the only Democrats that gets it.

00:24:55.000 He's one of the only Democrats who understands why people like Trump.

00:24:58.000 And Dr.

00:24:59.000 Oz is an uncanny valley alien weirdo.

00:25:03.000 Alien weirdo.

00:25:04.000 I think Trump had a soft spot for him because he was on TV a lot.

00:25:08.000 Trump likes him because he's famous and because he gave him a lot of money.

00:25:14.000 And Trump has a few weaknesses like this.

00:25:17.000 Famous member of my family gave me a lot of money.

00:25:20.000 Any of those three and you'll get stuff you probably shouldn't with Trump, okay?

00:25:24.000 But, you know, Dr.

00:25:25.000 Oz is a classic kind of uncanny valley weirdo.

00:25:30.000 Politics people in general, I mean, I've worked for a lot of senators, a lot of congressmen, I've written a lot of their books, 17 New York Times bestsellers.

00:25:38.000 Worst pick, though?

00:25:39.000 I mean, not everybody has that.

00:25:40.000 There still is RFK Jr.

00:25:42.000 People in politics can't tell weird.

00:25:45.000 There's something wrong with them where they can't tell weird.

00:25:47.000 They can't tell when someone's a bit off because they're all a bit off.

00:25:51.000 And they don't have that sort of like, yeah, okay, he's like a little bit slow, but a nice, normal, likable guy.

00:25:56.000 That guy is from Alpha Centauri.

00:25:59.000 So, you know, I would have voted for Federman.

00:26:02.000 I thought Federman was...

00:26:04.000 It's a good thing you British people can't vote in our elections.

00:26:07.000 Don't start that nonsense.

00:26:08.000 Who was running against Oz?

00:26:10.000 John Fetterman.

00:26:11.000 John Fetterman.

00:26:12.000 No, no, no, no.

00:26:13.000 The primary.

00:26:14.000 Barnett?

00:26:14.000 Barnett.

00:26:15.000 There was Barnett and McCormick.

00:26:17.000 He lost to McCormick.

00:26:18.000 Here's what the Senate should...

00:26:19.000 Who's now the senator-elect in Pennsylvania.

00:26:21.000 But the reason Fetterman is...

00:26:22.000 What should the Senate be?

00:26:24.000 The Senate should be an eccentric, peculiar...

00:26:28.000 A distinctively American body that represents the best and worst of the country, just like the House of Lords on which it's modeled, right?

00:26:37.000 It's supposed to be full of eccentric peculiarities who...

00:26:43.000 As a combined body, reflect the character, the wisdom, and the distinctive identity of the country and of the people, right?

00:26:50.000 That's what the Senate's supposed to be.

00:26:52.000 Fetterman achieves that.

00:26:53.000 Oz does.

00:26:53.000 The new Fetterman clone.

00:26:55.000 Fetterman keeps getting better.

00:26:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:57.000 The first Fetterman clone.

00:26:57.000 Clone 12 is the best one yet.

00:26:59.000 We're loving it.

00:27:00.000 But Fetterman does that.

00:27:01.000 Oz doesn't.

00:27:03.000 Oz, by the way, who is a dual citizen who served in the Turkish military.

00:27:07.000 What?

00:27:07.000 Really?

00:27:08.000 Yeah.

00:27:11.000 We need to repeal the 17th Amendment.

00:27:15.000 No, he's a dual citizen who served in...

00:27:17.000 I don't even know if it was a Turkish...

00:27:18.000 I think he might have served in Turkish intelligence.

00:27:20.000 I mean, well, sorry.

00:27:22.000 What an amazing thing that is to say.

00:27:27.000 Turkish intelligence.

00:27:28.000 You know, Oz is not just a...

00:27:33.000 If you have problems with dual loyalty, I mean, my goodness.

00:27:37.000 No, Oz is a foreign weirdo.

00:27:40.000 Thank God for Fetterman!

00:27:42.000 Repeal the 17th.

00:27:43.000 I'll just get rid of all of them.

00:27:44.000 Get rid of all of them.

00:27:45.000 Listen.

00:27:47.000 What Adam said, okay, was that the Bill of Rights, meaning everything after the Constitution, the amendments, was suitable only for the government of a moral and religious people.

00:27:57.000 That's right.

00:27:57.000 What he said, what he meant by that was Christians, okay?

00:28:00.000 Why wouldn't he say Christian explicitly then?

00:28:02.000 Well, because everybody was Christian.

00:28:04.000 Then why wouldn't he say it explicitly?

00:28:06.000 Because it was a given.

00:28:06.000 Because you don't need to.

00:28:07.000 No!

00:28:08.000 Elad, you're wrong.

00:28:10.000 Religious freedom in the time of the founders was about competing Protestant denominations.

00:28:16.000 And those competing Protestant denominations, they want to avoid wars between Calvinists and Presbyterians.

00:28:23.000 So religious freedom was designed to stop civil wars among Protestant denominations.

00:28:29.000 And moral and religious people meant to the founders and everybody else at the time, Christians.

00:28:35.000 You cannot give non-Christian people unfettered access to speech or guns.

00:28:41.000 It doesn't work, and it's not working.

00:28:43.000 Because if the First Amendment...

00:28:45.000 Basically, the way this country is set up is morality is outsourced to Christianity, okay?

00:28:51.000 You have a huge amount of freedom, unprecedented freedom, for people to choose good or to choose evil.

00:28:56.000 And the presumption in this country is that morality will be governed by a set of Christian norms.

00:29:01.000 Even if people aren't, like, practicing Christians, they kind of inherit this sort of fundamental understanding.

00:29:07.000 The idea that the first, second, and our amendments are only made for Christians, I think they would have explicitly said that.

00:29:13.000 Our country, I think, was founded on explicitly the opposite, and they would have said Christian explicitly.

00:29:19.000 The writers of our Constitution were all lawyers.

00:29:21.000 And I gotta pause.

00:29:21.000 With all due respect, you are completely wrong, and you need to read all of what the Founding Fathers had written about this, because it is fairly explicit.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, and I think there was a range of religion amongst them.

00:29:31.000 The range of religion was Presbyterian, Unitarian.

00:29:35.000 The range of religion was Christian.

00:29:37.000 There are no Jewish founders.

00:29:38.000 There are no Muslim founders.

00:29:39.000 There are no Buddhist founders.

00:29:41.000 There are no atheist founders.

00:29:43.000 Let's pause a second.

00:29:44.000 Let's start with the Fifth Amendment.

00:29:47.000 Do you know why the Founding Fathers created Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth?

00:29:51.000 Specifically, no.

00:29:52.000 It's the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

00:29:54.000 It is literally as the spoken word of the founding fathers Benjamin Franklin said it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent sufferer, which was a play on Blackstone's formulation.

00:30:04.000 It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent sufferer, which is literally written...

00:30:09.000 Real quick, the story was, Sodom and Gomorrah, it is better, you know, if but one righteous person exists, I will not destroy this land.

00:30:18.000 It was literally the Bible, which is why they said we should enshrine this in our Constitution.

00:30:24.000 And the inalienable rights that Americans enjoy are...

00:30:27.000 Given by God.

00:30:29.000 And they don't mean Ashanti Chakra.

00:30:31.000 They don't mean...

00:30:32.000 They mean the Christian deity.

00:30:35.000 I don't think they...

00:30:36.000 In every...

00:30:36.000 I think they would have said so.

00:30:38.000 I think you guys are really overlooking how intelligent and smart the founders were.

00:30:41.000 And if they thought Christian...

00:30:43.000 And they wanted the country to be explicitly Christian, they would have explicitly said so.

00:30:47.000 That's why you guys have to read into it.

00:30:49.000 That's why you guys have to read into it.

00:30:51.000 I gotta stop you.

00:30:51.000 A Jew telling you to read between the lines.

00:30:53.000 I have read a lot of the foundational documents, and they would have explicitly written in Christianity.

00:30:58.000 When he asked you about 3, 4, and 5, could you have read them out?

00:31:03.000 Do you know what they are?

00:31:04.000 No, not explicitly.

00:31:06.000 You don't know the amendments you're talking about.

00:31:10.000 I'm not rejecting the religious influence on our founding documents.

00:31:14.000 I'm saying they would have explicitly...

00:31:15.000 Tim, you've done it again.

00:31:16.000 You found the only stupid Jew.

00:31:18.000 My favorite?

00:31:21.000 Why don't you think they would have excluded Christian English quotes of moral...

00:31:26.000 We found the only retarded...

00:31:27.000 I never know.

00:31:35.000 I never know.

00:31:36.000 When they say a good and moral people, they believe that other religions are immoral because that was the standard back then.

00:31:49.000 Just because I know that you are a recovering libertarian, my dear friend Phil.

00:31:56.000 That's not the expression.

00:31:57.000 The expression is a moral and religious people.

00:31:59.000 And the religion is Christianity.

00:32:01.000 Now, I want to pause.

00:32:03.000 My favorite amendment is Amendment 7.

00:32:05.000 Okay?

00:32:06.000 What's Amendment 7?

00:32:07.000 Off the top of my head, I can't tell you.

00:32:09.000 How about you tell us, Milo?

00:32:10.000 Stop, Tim.

00:32:10.000 How about you tell us, Milo?

00:32:11.000 Well, he's a British guy.

00:32:12.000 Wait, no, no.

00:32:12.000 Let's hear it.

00:32:13.000 Milo's willing to call me out on knowing it.

00:32:14.000 Not knowing it.

00:32:15.000 I don't know what it is.

00:32:16.000 Milo doesn't have a shit.

00:32:17.000 He doesn't know what it is.

00:32:18.000 He'll complain about Dr.

00:32:19.000 Oz being a dual citizen.

00:32:20.000 He's only a British citizen, so it's really, really slow.

00:32:23.000 I'd like to open up to anybody else.

00:32:24.000 Who knows?

00:32:25.000 Any of you guys know this?

00:32:26.000 Okay, Elad, please.

00:32:28.000 Guys, does anybody else want to take a strike at the Seventh Amendment?

00:32:31.000 I don't know what I thought to my topic.

00:32:32.000 I don't know anybody.

00:32:33.000 No one knows this one because it doesn't matter.

00:32:36.000 The Seventh Amendment matters, sort of.

00:32:38.000 It's the right to jury trials in civil cases, so long it's over $20.

00:32:43.000 Now, here's the funny part.

00:32:44.000 Back then, $20 was nuts!

00:32:46.000 Today, 20 bucks ain't nothing.

00:32:47.000 So there is a dramatic change in what that amendment means based on inflation and Federal Reserve policies, which I find hilarious.

00:32:56.000 That being said, a lot.

00:32:58.000 There are numerous writings.

00:33:00.000 Now, I will stress this.

00:33:01.000 There were some founding fathers who were deist.

00:33:04.000 They believed in God.

00:33:05.000 They didn't follow Christian moral teachings.

00:33:07.000 But it is...

00:33:08.000 Your argument is a classic and incorrect argument which doesn't actually look into the letters, the writings, the books.

00:33:14.000 What you're saying is, why didn't they explicitly state this?

00:33:16.000 It's in the Declaration of Independence!

00:33:19.000 It's the fish and water argument.

00:33:21.000 Okay?

00:33:22.000 So let me start you here.

00:33:24.000 I think they were purposefully inclusive.

00:33:25.000 The founding fathers were purposefully inclusive.

00:33:27.000 How about I finish?

00:33:27.000 Sure.

00:33:28.000 Do you know air was discovered?

00:33:30.000 No, it wasn't officially ever discovered.

00:33:32.000 Yes, it was.

00:33:32.000 You are completely incorrect.

00:33:34.000 Air was discovered, okay.

00:33:35.000 You are completely incorrect.

00:33:37.000 When was water discovered?

00:33:38.000 Please don't make this guy your White House correspondent.

00:33:41.000 My God in heaven.

00:33:42.000 When was zero discovered?

00:33:44.000 It was a concept.

00:33:45.000 It kind of always existed.

00:33:47.000 No, my God.

00:33:48.000 It didn't always exist.

00:33:49.000 You already know it did not.

00:33:50.000 Humans did not have a concept of zero.

00:33:52.000 It was discovered.

00:33:53.000 Humans did not know that air existed.

00:33:56.000 They thought there was nothing here.

00:33:57.000 It was the ether.

00:33:58.000 There was an energy that you could feel.

00:34:00.000 And then one day, some dude, they used to use these bronze orbs with holes in them and a straw.

00:34:04.000 They would dunk it in water, put their thumb over the back, lift it up, and put it over themselves.

00:34:08.000 One guy goes, hey, what happens if I put my thumb over the back and then put it in the water?

00:34:12.000 Hey, no water went in the little ball.

00:34:14.000 Something is displacing the water.

00:34:16.000 And then he said, guys, I got an idea.

00:34:18.000 And that's when we discovered there was actually matter and mass all around us.

00:34:22.000 Why didn't they write about air?

00:34:23.000 It was in them and around them 24-7.

00:34:26.000 There's no reason for the founding fathers who are 99.9% Christian to say, and don't forget, we're all Christians in this room, right?

00:34:32.000 Let's write it down.

00:34:33.000 Except him also to say, it is there in the Declaration of Independence.

00:34:38.000 In Muslim countries, that does It is there.

00:34:42.000 In all of the founding documents, God is actually present as well.

00:34:45.000 It's just that they don't feel the need to say it in every clause.

00:34:48.000 They never mention Jesus, and there's no mentions of Christianity, just allusions to moral and religious people.

00:34:54.000 I think John Adams is smart enough that if he meant explicitly Christians, he would have said Christians specifically.

00:35:00.000 I guess he did.

00:35:01.000 Moral and religiously.

00:35:02.000 He did.

00:35:02.000 You just haven't read any, Adam.

00:35:03.000 No, no, you're wrong.

00:35:05.000 You're British.

00:35:05.000 You think you know a lot more about American politics than you do.

00:35:08.000 How come our law books don't explicitly state that it only applies to humans?

00:35:15.000 Is it because we assume, as all humans, we're not applying laws to dolphins?

00:35:22.000 In American courtrooms until very, very recently in criminal trials in American courtrooms, what book do you swear on so that everyone knows you're telling the truth?

00:35:32.000 I think it's your own religious book.

00:35:33.000 Is it the Talmud?

00:35:35.000 Is it the Bakahadvita?

00:35:38.000 Is it the Dead Sea Scrolls?

00:35:40.000 No, it's the Bible.

00:35:41.000 Grow up.

00:35:42.000 Do you know what percentage of this country right now is Christian?

00:35:45.000 Depends on how you define it, but at least 60-70%.

00:35:47.000 No, it doesn't.

00:35:47.000 It's self-reported.

00:35:48.000 Are you discriminating?

00:35:50.000 Between Christians, Catholics, which denominations...

00:35:52.000 No, they're all Christians.

00:35:54.000 It's in surveys.

00:35:55.000 It's about 70%.

00:35:56.000 And do you know what that number was in the 60s?

00:36:00.000 Probably closer to 90.

00:36:02.000 Did you hear that?

00:36:03.000 Did you hear that?

00:36:03.000 Congratulations.

00:36:06.000 You could be nice to the ruling elites, you know.

00:36:08.000 If you go back even 50 years, this country is 95% Christian.

00:36:13.000 If you go back 100, it's 100% Christian.

00:36:15.000 There's very few people who weren't.

00:36:17.000 Maybe some immigrants from Asia were, you know, Buddhist or Confucianist or whatever.

00:36:22.000 There are Muslim countries who, despite being 99% Muslim, still decide to enshrine their religious law explicitly.

00:36:31.000 They're not America, and that's not what America did.

00:36:33.000 Okay.

00:36:34.000 Did they do it in Britain at all?

00:36:35.000 Is Britain a Christian country?

00:36:38.000 I'm not sure.

00:36:38.000 Maybe you can tell us about Britain instead of America.

00:36:41.000 The King of England is the head of the Church of England.

00:36:43.000 I don't know.

00:36:44.000 That's why I'm asking the British guy, not the American citizen.

00:36:46.000 I can't believe you don't know this, but the British monarch is also the head of the Church of England, which is the Anglican Church.

00:36:53.000 So Canterbury Cathedral has an archbishop who is the sort of religious, if you like, the chief executive in corporate terms.

00:37:01.000 And in corporate terms, the president of the board, the chief of the board, is the monarch.

00:37:05.000 So if you are an English monarch, you have to be an Anglican because they are also the head of the church because the English church is an established church.

00:37:13.000 So a disestablishment, which happened in 1776, is where you divorce religion from the state technically, right?

00:37:21.000 And the reason it happened in 1776 is because if you're going to cast off the British king, you have to do something about the religion because you can't be sort of paying obeisance to the head of your own religion when you've just deposed him as the head of your state, okay?

00:37:36.000 Well, Milo, I apologize.

00:37:37.000 It's truly easy to confuse you guys for a British country or a Muslim-majority country.

00:37:41.000 Okay, I have a question for you.

00:37:42.000 Do you want to finish?

00:37:43.000 Well, just simply to say that the Washington National Cathedral, for instance, which is an Episcopalian church, the Episcopalian branch of Protestantism was invented basically to mirror high Anglicanism in Britain, is a clone of Canterbury Cathedral.

00:38:00.000 And there's a reason for that.

00:38:01.000 Because the Episcopalian Church was basically, and Washington National Cathedral, it was created to be a parallel or almost identical religious institution.

00:38:12.000 And that is, Washington National Cathedral, that's where the presidents get buried.

00:38:15.000 That's where things happen in American public life.

00:38:18.000 All those things where, you know, you see all the presidents lined up and someone's being buried.

00:38:21.000 It happens in Washington National Cathedral, which is an Episcopalian Christian church.

00:38:25.000 That is the national church of this country.

00:38:27.000 So, Ilad, I got a question for you about the Second Amendment.

00:38:29.000 Do you know what it is?

00:38:30.000 Yeah, the right to keep in bare arms.

00:38:32.000 I know that one, Milo.

00:38:33.000 Necessary to the security of a free state.

00:38:35.000 Let's start from the beginning.

00:38:37.000 Roughly, I'm messing up something.

00:38:39.000 No, no, no, no, I'm not being mean.

00:38:41.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:38:42.000 Be cruel.

00:38:43.000 I am not being mean.

00:38:44.000 This is the one I know.

00:38:45.000 This is my point.

00:38:46.000 Necessary to the security.

00:38:46.000 And it's not to put him on the spot to say, you can look it up, I don't care.

00:38:48.000 I'm not looking it up.

00:38:49.000 A well-regulated militia.

00:38:51.000 Wait, can I, all right, well.

00:38:52.000 You got the well-regulated.

00:38:53.000 I forgot that part.

00:38:54.000 A well-regulated militia necessary to the security of a free state.

00:38:57.000 The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:39:00.000 The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:39:03.000 What does it mean?

00:39:03.000 Why did the Founding Fathers want that written in?

00:39:05.000 What was their intent?

00:39:06.000 I think the attitude of the country at the time was of rebellion, and they were thinking that they needed to maintain being armed.

00:39:14.000 They wanted to continue the state of rebellion.

00:39:15.000 It makes total sense.

00:39:16.000 No, well, they saw the tyranny that existed when they weren't armed, and they wanted to give the ability and the God-given right.

00:39:23.000 Why didn't they include that in the amendment?

00:39:25.000 The God-given part?

00:39:26.000 Why didn't they write everything you just said down?

00:39:28.000 Because they spoke in lawyer talk.

00:39:30.000 So just one sentence.

00:39:32.000 But clearly, if their intent was rebellion, they would have included for these purposes.

00:39:37.000 Well, a well-regulated militia, I guess, to prevent.

00:39:40.000 I mean, that part could be argued.

00:39:41.000 Why did they write it down?

00:39:42.000 The whole thing?

00:39:43.000 Why didn't they write down what you're saying?

00:39:45.000 They were quite prolix people.

00:39:46.000 Because there are more implications that aren't explicitly laid out.

00:39:51.000 The point is this.

00:39:52.000 You mean implications that aren't explicitly laid out, like moral and religious people meaning Christian?

00:39:56.000 No, I don't think those are like-kind still.

00:39:58.000 I still don't think those are like-kind comparisons, though.

00:40:00.000 You're asking why they didn't write Christianity in a Bible when they were all Christians and assumed everyone was?

00:40:06.000 And you're also stating that there are things they meant that they did not write down later.

00:40:10.000 So, which is it?

00:40:12.000 I just think you guys are reading into this quote really hard.

00:40:15.000 Answer the question I'm asking you.

00:40:16.000 Repeat it.

00:40:16.000 Were the founding fathers leaving out information that was assumed, or were there things they intended to include that they didn't write down?

00:40:25.000 There were things left out that people...

00:40:27.000 Could that be that everyone in the room was Christian, so the assumption was moral and religious meant Christian?

00:40:32.000 It could be, but I don't think that's what he's referring to in this quote.

00:40:35.000 I think it's much easier to say, if you explicitly mean Christian here, our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.

00:40:41.000 If he meant specifically Christian, I think it's an obvious thing.

00:40:45.000 Hold on, hold on, you made one point.

00:40:47.000 In Muslim-majority countries, they say so explicitly.

00:40:50.000 Ilad, you made a point.

00:40:52.000 Your point will be answered to, don't gish-gallop.

00:40:54.000 Satanism is not a religion that the Founding Fathers would have considered to be moral and religious.

00:40:59.000 Right?

00:40:59.000 I agree.

00:41:00.000 Nor is Judaism.

00:41:01.000 Well, I don't think, uh, debatable.

00:41:03.000 I think they would have said Judaism is moral and religious.

00:41:05.000 Not debatable.

00:41:05.000 What other religions did they mean here?

00:41:07.000 Not debatable.

00:41:08.000 None.

00:41:08.000 Besides Christianity, if they only meant Christianity, then I don't see as to why they wouldn't say that explicitly.

00:41:13.000 If they only meant Christianity by moral and religious people, John Adams here, I think he would have said so explicitly.

00:41:17.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:41:19.000 Were they Christians?

00:41:20.000 I can explain why.

00:41:21.000 Some were, some weren't.

00:41:22.000 Are they Christians somewhere and somewhere?

00:41:24.000 All the founders were some form of Christian.

00:41:26.000 I'll explain.

00:41:26.000 And now the question then is, do Christians typically say that other religions are correct?

00:41:33.000 I think the Christians say the Jews are chosen people.

00:41:39.000 Christians don't go around saying, well, the woman's got a point.

00:41:42.000 Christians believe in the Jewish Torah, if I'm not mistaken.

00:41:43.000 Maybe one of you Christians can tell me more about it.

00:41:46.000 In order to demonstrate this, you can look, for instance, at the highest authority in America, which is not the president.

00:41:52.000 It's the Supreme Court.

00:41:55.000 Things are decided in America in courtrooms.

00:41:57.000 The courtrooms are the places where America's national dramas play out, okay?

00:42:02.000 Whether it's Roe vs.

00:42:04.000 Wade, the abortion debate is framed in terms of a court case, right?

00:42:08.000 Whether it's the OJ trial, which told white America, there might be a problem here.

00:42:13.000 I don't think blacks are buying into this thing that we wanted them to do post-emancipation, right?

00:42:17.000 I think actually maybe they're just gonna vote with other black people and maybe we got a problem here, right?

00:42:23.000 To Trump, to the Bush-Gore election, all of America's great national dramas are played out in the courtroom.

00:42:30.000 And the Supreme Court is the highest authority in this country because they get to choose the president if no one else can make their mind up.

00:42:37.000 They can also rule on whether the president can go to jail.

00:42:40.000 Of course.

00:42:41.000 And in that place, they are holding their verdicts against a constitution that is based on Christian principles, such as oath-breaking, the commandment against bearing false witness.

00:42:55.000 Right.

00:42:55.000 Which means if you make a contract with somebody else, you stick to it.

00:42:59.000 And if you don't, they can sue you and you've got to pay them.

00:43:01.000 This actually flows directly from the Christian commandment about bearing false witness, just like all the other laws and just like the Constitution.

00:43:10.000 One more point before we jump to the next story, though.

00:43:12.000 You would say that there are people in China that are religious.

00:43:16.000 They have a religion.

00:43:16.000 I'm not sure.

00:43:19.000 I believe it's largely Buddhist.

00:43:20.000 I could be completely wrong.

00:43:21.000 I think there are some Christians.

00:43:21.000 I'm sure there are some moral and religious people in China.

00:43:24.000 Buddhism is a religion, right?

00:43:24.000 I don't think Buddhism is a religion, actually.

00:43:27.000 You don't think Buddhism is a religion?

00:43:28.000 No.

00:43:29.000 I think people are also, like, Buddhist in other things.

00:43:31.000 I can hear an outcry of Nam-myo-ho-renge-kyo, Nam-myo-ho-renge-kyo, Nam-myo-ho-renge-kyo, Nam-myo-ho-renge-kyo.

00:43:38.000 There's a thousand crystals just lit up.

00:43:40.000 What is that?

00:43:40.000 Hinduism.

00:43:41.000 Yeah, okay.

00:43:42.000 Okay, how come in these countries they don't have a Fifth Amendment?

00:43:45.000 Because they're trash countries?

00:43:48.000 Do you know what the Fifth Amendment is?

00:43:49.000 That's not an answer.

00:43:50.000 Do you know what the Fifth Amendment is?

00:43:52.000 It's to not be self-incriminated, not to provide— That's the easy one.

00:43:55.000 There's several components to it.

00:43:57.000 Okay.

00:43:57.000 So my point is it is rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

00:44:00.000 You get a right to a trial, these things, fourth, fifth, and sixth.

00:44:02.000 The right to a fourth is search and seizure.

00:44:05.000 If it was just about being religious in general, well, the Founding Fathers understand that China was religious, but they do not protect an individual's right to a trial, a jury of their peers, and against self-incrimination.

00:44:18.000 That's quite literally rooted in the Bible.

00:44:20.000 I researched this intentionally because I was wondering why the Founding Fathers—I read about all the Bill of Rights— The first amendment was originally supposed to be, what was it, like salaries?

00:44:30.000 The second was supposed to be a portion, but I could be mixing them up.

00:44:32.000 And they ultimately dropped those.

00:44:33.000 There were 17 original articles.

00:44:34.000 They got condensed and some got eliminated.

00:44:36.000 The second amendment used to have a line in it that stated that even if you did not serve in the military, you still had your right to keep and bear arms, which was so important.

00:44:43.000 Because the left is arguing that the Second Amendment only applies to a well-regulated militia.

00:44:47.000 And the original articles, I think it was the fourth at the time, stated, you don't got to be in the military, you get to keep your guns.

00:44:54.000 And they said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:44:56.000 This could be used in court to argue against conscription.

00:44:59.000 That when we call someone up to serve to defend this nation, they could say, no, let's remove that part.

00:45:04.000 Have it be implied that everyone just keeps to have their guns.

00:45:07.000 Now the Democrats are literally arguing that it means only a well-regulated militia.

00:45:11.000 And it's like, heavens me, did you literally read about anything the Founding Fathers wrote when they were crafting this?

00:45:16.000 They were all like, we want to make sure everybody has weapons.

00:45:19.000 It's not just about tyranny.

00:45:20.000 It's a generality.

00:45:21.000 There is fear of a tyrannical government.

00:45:23.000 However, they don't want people rising up against them.

00:45:25.000 There was, what's the...

00:45:28.000 I forgot the guy's name.

00:45:29.000 There was the rebellion after the revolution when they didn't pay the people who fought.

00:45:33.000 They revolted, and Jefferson and the other founding fathers were like, no, no, no, no, we're pardoning all of them because we cannot found a nation on internal fighting.

00:45:41.000 There's a bigger component with the Second Amendment, and that is the militia is necessary to a free state, not just to oppose domestic problems, but foreign problems as well.

00:45:50.000 If a foreign nation wants to invade and the average citizenry can rise up and form militia, they are much more defensible.

00:45:56.000 However, Because they didn't explicitly write it, they wrote it in external papers, drafts, and letters.

00:46:02.000 The Democrats are now trying to strip us of those rights.

00:46:04.000 So if you don't know anything about this and you don't read the Federalist Papers and you don't understand how all this stuff comes out, it's easy.

00:46:09.000 And we can apply this to the First Amendment too.

00:46:11.000 What is the First Amendment really for?

00:46:14.000 It is to provide people with the freedom to do good or to do evil, right?

00:46:18.000 It's to provide them with the free will to be saved or to be damned.

00:46:22.000 Okay?

00:46:22.000 And they can stand or fall on their own words and no other man can say, you know, you can say this or you can not say this.

00:46:28.000 Freedom is not really a Christian virtue, but it exists in the Bill of Rights because it provides people with the ability to do right or to do wrong and then be judged by it in the herafter.

00:46:38.000 Okay?

00:46:39.000 And to be able to express yourself in whatever way you want is a radical, dangerous, and unprecedented level of freedom that has not really existed in society or civilizations before this that is only possible Because it was assumed that America would always stay Christian.

00:46:53.000 And as America has become less Christian, both of those first two amendments have begun to become a problem, particularly the first one.

00:47:01.000 Because we now live, just to demonstrate how wrong you are, now that we live in a post-Christian America, which I think it's fairly unarguable that we do, Let me pause real quick.

00:47:15.000 Just make a point.

00:47:16.000 Even though the country is 70% Christian, I believe large quantities are not practicing or voting.

00:47:22.000 Yes, but I mean, sure.

00:47:25.000 People who believe in prosperity, gospel, and whatever, I wouldn't really class this.

00:47:28.000 But continue, continue.

00:47:29.000 Thank you.

00:47:32.000 Now that we live in what is, in many ways, a post-Christian country, and I don't think it's because of that.

00:47:37.000 I think what it really is is that a country is its cities, right?

00:47:40.000 Civilization, from civis, the Latin means to live in cities.

00:47:44.000 Civilization means to live in cities, right?

00:47:46.000 And a country is its cities.

00:47:48.000 And we've lost our cities, right?

00:47:50.000 And the cities determine the character, the laws, and the nature of a society, of a nation.

00:47:56.000 We have lost our cities, and our cities are definitely post-Christian, if not actively anti-Christian.

00:48:01.000 So I think that's probably really what I mean.

00:48:03.000 Now, that a given, what is the result of that?

00:48:08.000 Well, the First Amendment has provided for this creation of two completely different parallel fact universes that Americans now live in.

00:48:17.000 There's the universe that you live in if you are...

00:48:19.000 I mean, we could...

00:48:20.000 This is an oversimplification, but let's say it's left and right.

00:48:25.000 Let's say it's Democrat-Republican, okay?

00:48:26.000 It's not a...

00:48:27.000 Very satisfactory way to talk about these categories.

00:48:31.000 Maybe better would be like Bernie Trump versus Hillary Romney, right?

00:48:38.000 But there are two completely different fact universes that Americans now live in.

00:48:42.000 And every single issue that you talk about, whether it's moral or practical, has...

00:48:47.000 An A and a B that you have to choose between.

00:48:49.000 And most people just line up with their tribe.

00:48:52.000 We live in these two completely different fact universes.

00:48:54.000 This is a psychic fracture.

00:48:57.000 A damaging, dangerous, psychological rift that has opened up in the heart of the country that has made America schizophrenic.

00:49:07.000 It has given America...

00:49:08.000 And this is a product of freedom...

00:49:12.000 Shorn of Christianity.

00:49:14.000 This is a problem of a First Amendment without the restraining influence of Christian moral teaching, which tells us that we must adhere to the truth, which holds in the transcendentals beauty, truth, and goodness, that we must always aspire to do those things that are good, beautiful, and true, and that promote unity, depending on which church fathers you read.

00:49:34.000 Take Christianity out and the First Amendment is a mendacious liar's charter that rewards the people who lie the most audaciously and without honor and without regret.

00:49:45.000 And it has created this psychic break in the country.

00:49:49.000 That is what happens.

00:49:51.000 And the founders knew this.

00:49:52.000 That is what happens when you have a First Amendment.

00:49:56.000 A shorn of Christianity.

00:49:58.000 It lifted the guardrails off morality.

00:50:00.000 So we know that this argument is correct because we have witnessed what happens when you take Christianity out of the equation.

00:50:05.000 And let's add to that with the Fifth Amendment.

00:50:07.000 You end up with defense of the worst vile criminals.

00:50:10.000 You end up with people being released.

00:50:12.000 Yes.

00:50:12.000 So I always phrase it like this.

00:50:14.000 And again, Christians, hey, I'm not a Christian, but I recognize logic.

00:50:19.000 We'll get you.

00:50:19.000 Sure.

00:50:20.000 If everybody on the planet, if everyone on the planet was Seamus Coughlin, I know Seamus is a good dude.

00:50:26.000 I know what he believes.

00:50:27.000 I know how devout he is.

00:50:29.000 If everyone on the planet had the same moral framework as Seamus, there would be no war.

00:50:33.000 There would be no murder.

00:50:34.000 You would need no police except for getting kittens out of trees.

00:50:38.000 Because Seamus fears something beyond himself and doesn't want to infringe upon others.

00:50:41.000 I think that's the fire service, but I take your point.

00:50:45.000 And just to say, you may not be a believer yet.

00:50:52.000 You may not be a believer ever.

00:50:53.000 I'm not going to...

00:50:54.000 Let me say something real quick about...

00:50:56.000 I don't think that most Christians are motivated by a fear of hell.

00:50:59.000 I feel like atheists try to claim that.

00:51:01.000 I feel like when I talk to Seamus, it seems like his greatest concern is being without God's grace.

00:51:07.000 Well, it's the same thing.

00:51:09.000 So when Dante talks about the circles of hell, the furthest away from God are the cold ice things.

00:51:17.000 Shoot in the devil's mouth.

00:51:18.000 Right.

00:51:19.000 Yeah, the sort of slow, icy tube, because for a Christian to be out of the light and love of God is a cold thing, right?

00:51:28.000 That lake of fire is a metaphor, okay, for torment.

00:51:32.000 And it's the torment of despair.

00:51:34.000 The torment of despair is that position in darkness and distance from which you cannot be saved, from which God's love and light cannot reach you because you're no longer open to his salvific message, okay?

00:51:45.000 So, you know, it's a cold place and a dark place.

00:51:50.000 It is, you know, it is out there somewhere in the universe, unreachable by law.

00:51:54.000 And it's, you know, it's a place of ultimate despair.

00:51:57.000 And who is warranting the lowest level of hell?

00:52:02.000 Traitors.

00:52:03.000 Traders, correct.

00:52:04.000 In Dante's Inferno.

00:52:05.000 Correct.

00:52:05.000 So Dante's teaching, Dante's Inferno is not official Catholic Church teaching, but it was written at a time and within the context, very much in a Catholic context, okay?

00:52:16.000 So it's not official Catholic Church teaching, but it has been enormously influential because it reflects the manner in which we think about particular kinds of sins, all right?

00:52:24.000 So, for instance, sodomy is one of those sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance.

00:52:30.000 It's like that bad.

00:52:31.000 In addition to, for instance, denying the poor their wages.

00:52:35.000 If you are employing somebody who needs that money to pay their children, and without it, their children may go hungry, and you withdraw their wages, that is...

00:52:50.000 That is withholding wages.

00:52:55.000 So that's another of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance, right?

00:52:58.000 And these things are places that put you beyond and out in the cold, in addition to treachery.

00:53:03.000 And what is treachery?

00:53:05.000 Treachery is oath-breaking.

00:53:06.000 It is a violation of the commandment against bearing false witness.

00:53:11.000 Bearing false witness means lying in official contexts.

00:53:13.000 And that's the basis of American democracy.

00:53:16.000 I want to go a lot deeper on this.

00:53:17.000 Let's save the rest for the members-only portion, and we can get a little bit more unfriendly and a little bit more adult, I would call it, meaning serious conversations about penalties and things like this.

00:53:26.000 What we really want to see happen to them.

00:53:28.000 Got it.

00:53:28.000 Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.

00:53:32.000 House Speaker bans men from women's bathrooms on Capitol Hill.

00:53:36.000 This is...

00:53:37.000 This is a weird story that the Speaker of the House had to say men can't go in the women's room.

00:53:43.000 I don't understand why this...

00:53:45.000 Speaking of an immoral world.

00:53:47.000 You have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this.

00:53:49.000 Let me get real quick context.

00:53:51.000 For sure.

00:53:51.000 There's a new member of Congress coming in named Sarah McBride, a Democrat.

00:53:54.000 No, no, no.

00:53:56.000 That's not the name of that person.

00:53:58.000 Well, you can change your name.

00:53:59.000 And legally, on paperwork, this person is identifying as Sarah McBride.

00:54:03.000 I'm just trying to give the context.

00:54:05.000 Let me say this, and then you can follow up and explain what's wrong about it and all that stuff.

00:54:10.000 In the media, they have reported an individual who is going by the name Sarah McBride, who is biologically male.

00:54:15.000 I ain't seen a name change document.

00:54:20.000 I'm Sarah.

00:54:22.000 Nancy May says, we will not have men in the women's bathrooms in Congress.

00:54:28.000 Proposed a bill.

00:54:29.000 Doubled down and said, we will now propose this in all federal buildings in this country.

00:54:35.000 Mike Johnson comes out and says, you know what?

00:54:39.000 Men cannot use women.

00:54:41.000 Women cannot use men.

00:54:42.000 Thank you and have a nice day.

00:54:43.000 This is where we currently are.

00:54:44.000 Milo, explain what's going on.

00:54:46.000 So you have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this.

00:54:48.000 The bill that Nancy Mace is putting forward, which would apply to all federal buildings everywhere, for instance, would apply to your local DMV. This is a very good thing, and we hope that it passes and we hope that it happens.

00:55:00.000 Mike, as the Speaker of the House, can say what happens in the Capitol complex, right?

00:55:05.000 So in the Capitol complex...

00:55:08.000 The Speaker of the House determines what happens everywhere.

00:55:11.000 So without a bill being passed, without a law being passed, he's able to institute new rules for how those buildings are used.

00:55:19.000 So Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, has said, no biological males in the female bathrooms in the Capitol complex.

00:55:26.000 And that means the offices...

00:55:28.000 You have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this, because Mike Johnson...

00:55:31.000 That wasn't a given that that happened, but Marjorie...

00:55:35.000 Announced a day before this ruling came down from Mike Johnson that Mike Johnson was going to do this.

00:55:41.000 And I don't know to the extent to which that was definitely the case.

00:55:44.000 Or not the case, but she sure maneuvered him into saying it.

00:55:47.000 So Marjorie kind of left him with no option but to do this, which was a great public service and a great thing.

00:55:54.000 And it's right and it's proper that that should have happened.

00:55:58.000 Nancy Mace has been great.

00:56:00.000 She's like a mob wife, isn't she?

00:56:02.000 She's like a sexy mob wife.

00:56:05.000 Was she wearing like a mink yesterday?

00:56:06.000 No, she came out in this white fur and I was, and you know, my old gay Milo came out.

00:56:13.000 I have to tell you, I have to tell you, she came out in this fur and I was like, yes, quit!

00:56:17.000 Stop!

00:56:18.000 You know, uh...

00:56:19.000 Fifty lashes.

00:56:20.000 No, no, exactly.

00:56:21.000 There's a hot oil on the thigh, yeah.

00:56:23.000 That's my preferred punishment.

00:56:25.000 Um, you know, no, no idea.

00:56:27.000 That's how I stopped having sex with men.

00:56:28.000 Really?

00:56:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:30.000 You just fry up some oil and just a little drop on the fire.

00:56:33.000 It stings for days.

00:56:34.000 And you're just like, I really am not interested in anything else.

00:56:36.000 It really hurts.

00:56:37.000 No, it worked for me.

00:56:39.000 So this is a wonderful thing.

00:56:45.000 And you have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for it.

00:56:47.000 Can I ask?

00:56:48.000 Okay, so thinking of this story and what you were saying earlier about the schizophrenic country, do you think the...

00:56:54.000 Schizophrenia widens now in America after the election or does it get better?

00:56:57.000 I don't believe that the two fact universes are reconcilable.

00:57:00.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:57:00.000 So I think that one of two things has to happen.

00:57:02.000 I agree.

00:57:02.000 Either the country splits in some sort of orderly breakup or one of those sides has to die.

00:57:10.000 And we are now at a point at which it's a realistic prospect that one of those sides might be on the ropes.

00:57:18.000 You think they're just going to phase themselves out?

00:57:20.000 Well, so let me...

00:57:21.000 It's not that.

00:57:22.000 It's that you were talking earlier about, you know, Micah and Charlemagne the God, that fruity guy, and then, you know, all these other people who are sort of...

00:57:33.000 Oh, and the oleaginous, odious slug.

00:57:38.000 What's his name on...

00:57:40.000 Ryan Stelter.

00:57:42.000 No, no.

00:57:43.000 He sounds like a slob.

00:57:45.000 No, no, no.

00:57:45.000 You can sort of see him ripple as he talks on the Young Turks.

00:57:48.000 What's his name?

00:57:49.000 Cenk?

00:57:49.000 Yes, Cenk.

00:57:51.000 Ripple?

00:57:51.000 You know you can tell.

00:57:53.000 Oh, he left it yesterday.

00:57:55.000 People say you can't judge a book by its cover.

00:57:57.000 Give me a break.

00:57:59.000 He's working with Doge now.

00:58:01.000 He's working with Eon.

00:58:01.000 Cenk?

00:58:02.000 But he wants to.

00:58:04.000 There's a very real prospect.

00:58:06.000 And by the way, I did watch her show yesterday, and I can't share your praise for Anna Kasparian because she had plenty of opportunities to realize what was right, and she only really changed her mind when it affected her personally.

00:58:19.000 Agreed.

00:58:19.000 And I don't think you get plaudits for that.

00:58:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:58:22.000 I don't think you get a round of applause just because you got assaulted and then your friends weren't nice to you about it.

00:58:27.000 And now you realize that maybe your friends are dicks.

00:58:30.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:58:31.000 I'm sorry.

00:58:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:58:32.000 I don't think you get an applause for that.

00:58:35.000 Hold on.

00:58:35.000 You're totally right about the assault.

00:58:37.000 Everything.

00:58:39.000 Let me finish here.

00:58:40.000 You're totally right about the assault.

00:58:41.000 You're right about the opinions when it comes to...

00:58:44.000 What was the other topic that she had?

00:58:47.000 Oh, the birthing person.

00:58:49.000 But she did look into the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff on her own, and she came to a different conclusion after she looked into it.

00:58:57.000 Ah!

00:58:57.000 How recently?

00:58:58.000 She's been at this for decades.

00:59:00.000 I understand, but the point that I'm making, Milo, is that she knew.

00:59:06.000 She went on air, and she said lies, and she knew she was wrong, and she did it anyway, and when did she finally break?

00:59:12.000 When it affected her personally?

00:59:13.000 You're asserting that she knew.

00:59:14.000 That is no cause for applause.

00:59:17.000 No cause for applause.

00:59:18.000 And just because she saw the way that the wind was blowing...

00:59:21.000 And just because she knew who was going to win the election, because she's not completely insane.

00:59:26.000 Suddenly she has some Damascene experience.

00:59:28.000 I think that you're doing it.

00:59:32.000 You're assuming too much.

00:59:33.000 I've just realized the left's wrong about everything.

00:59:35.000 You're making too many assumptions about what she did or did not know, Milo.

00:59:39.000 Give me a break.

00:59:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:59:39.000 You cannot applaud everyone on the left.

00:59:42.000 Okay, we get it.

00:59:45.000 Now, do Micah and Scarborough.

00:59:48.000 Oh gosh.

00:59:50.000 Listen.

00:59:51.000 They're much more atrocious than Anakin's powers.

00:59:54.000 So Micah's like...

00:59:57.000 If you kind of...

00:59:59.000 So if you took like sort of three or four thousand...

01:00:03.000 You can work out by body weight like how much Adderall will kill you.

01:00:07.000 LAUGHTER If you took sort of like 20 milligrams less than that, and then you'd be Micah.

01:00:17.000 And then there's this sort of podgy, you know, ghastly sort of soft...

01:00:24.000 Matthew Perry's corpse.

01:00:25.000 Yeah, soft-featured, you know, sort of...

01:00:28.000 Oh, God.

01:00:30.000 Listen, these are weak people who are...

01:00:33.000 Moral cowards.

01:00:34.000 Moral cowards, but also...

01:00:37.000 The worst thing you can be in life is for sale.

01:00:41.000 And there are people who will say just about anything in order to stay on the right line of the censors, or in order to keep their, you know, whatever.

01:00:49.000 And we all know this, being in the right wing, because we know Prager, and we know Turning Point, and we know, sorry, all your friends, I'm just kidding, or The Daily Wire, we know Because we know these people privately, and we know how much better they are privately off air, you know?

01:01:04.000 We know that, you know, there's things that they will not say on air.

01:01:09.000 And that, to me, personally, is the greatest sin you can commit, really.

01:01:13.000 Because that, for me, it's tickling up to bearing false witness.

01:01:18.000 Because lying in formal context is like kind of lying in a broadcast, you know, about what you really believe, you know, for a monetary gain.

01:01:25.000 Please.

01:01:28.000 And there's a distinction, I think, between, for instance, this show and people like that.

01:01:32.000 Because, like, Tim, I would describe, if someone asked me, as kind of center-right.

01:01:40.000 And, you know, he plays between the lines in order to maintain a successful and a significant and a big presence, which is something that I wouldn't be able to do.

01:01:51.000 That is incorrect.

01:01:52.000 Well, I'm not trying to offend you.

01:01:54.000 I'm trying to compliment you.

01:01:55.000 No, no, no, but let me counter just...

01:01:57.000 Okay, then let's talk about vaccines.

01:01:59.000 Let's counter on this point.

01:02:01.000 I'm teasing you.

01:02:03.000 Because Destiny was lying about me claiming I pushed vaccine conspiracies.

01:02:05.000 I know that.

01:02:06.000 I know that.

01:02:07.000 My point is not to...

01:02:08.000 To the end, you're going to get a compliment.

01:02:10.000 It's fine.

01:02:11.000 My point is not to say you're wrong.

01:02:12.000 My point is to say, if we went hard line in one direction, our viewership would be larger.

01:02:17.000 Maybe, but...

01:02:18.000 It's clear when you look at all of the biggest shows.

01:02:20.000 Maybe, but it wouldn't be monetized.

01:02:21.000 And that's my point.

01:02:22.000 So the point is this.

01:02:24.000 I respect what you do, and I have always been grateful to you, for instance, for having me on when it wasn't always easy.

01:02:31.000 For having me on when...

01:02:34.000 And you've done that with other guests, too.

01:02:36.000 And I think the way in which you demonstrate courage is having people on earlier than others do.

01:02:41.000 And you've done it with me, and I've always been grateful for it, okay?

01:02:44.000 I think that...

01:02:45.000 So there was your compliment.

01:02:46.000 You could have just waited for it.

01:02:50.000 But what other people do, which I find intolerable, is they present themselves as the bleeding edge of commentary or as the warriors on the front lines of whatever.

01:03:02.000 And in fact, they are censoring 90% of what they say versus, you know, what happens here, which is like, all you have to do is kind of be a grown-up.

01:03:11.000 You know?

01:03:12.000 On this show, like, the worst that happens is you sort of have to be, like, talk like you would if there was a child in the room.

01:03:18.000 Which is no great sacrifice, right?

01:03:21.000 It's a big difference, you know?

01:03:22.000 You gave us one of the best insults of all time, in fact, when, before the show, it was like, it wasn't the last time you were on us before that, I said, Milo, just keep it academic.

01:03:31.000 Academic insults are funnier and they're acceptable.

01:03:33.000 And so you wrote down no personal invective with a sad face from...

01:03:38.000 But then you described Ron DeSantis as something off-putting, like when you reach for something but accidentally touch something moist, like a wet sponge.

01:03:46.000 Yes, yes.

01:03:47.000 And it was very good.

01:03:48.000 Somebody asked me the other day about Ted Cruz, and I remarked something similar, which is that there's something amphibian about him, as though he sleeps underwater and lays eggs in the reeds.

01:04:00.000 You know?

01:04:01.000 As though he lays eggs in the reeds.

01:04:05.000 If Ted Cruz were to reproduce, it would be in the form of tadpoles.

01:04:10.000 That's the kind of thing you want, isn't it?

01:04:13.000 You're funnier!

01:04:14.000 Well, some people say it.

01:04:15.000 Some people like the C word.

01:04:17.000 There are other shows for that.

01:04:19.000 It's the members only show.

01:04:21.000 We'll get there.

01:04:22.000 I was trying to compliment you by saying that I think that you have a family-friendly mainstream appeal show that can actually make you a living unlike the majority of most of us.

01:04:33.000 And you show your courage through the people you bring on, right?

01:04:35.000 Which I think is great.

01:04:36.000 What I can't stand...

01:04:38.000 Is people who present themselves as these sort of brave warriors throwing themselves under the bus.

01:04:47.000 I think the bravest thing you can do is to...

01:04:53.000 Say something awful that shocks people, that blows open the fire doors, that opens the space up for others to follow because you create through that, the blood you spill becomes a kind of baptismal nectar that christens a generation of warriors behind you.

01:05:13.000 That's why Kanye is so great.

01:05:15.000 And that's why I loved working for him so much, because that's exactly what Ye does, exactly what Kanye West does.

01:05:21.000 And I think we had something of a meeting of the minds in that regard.

01:05:24.000 And people respect that, and they really appreciate that.

01:05:27.000 And some of your viewers may have noticed...

01:05:32.000 A piece in the Hollywood Reporter.

01:05:35.000 I'm profiled in a print edition of the Hollywood Reporter, which is very nice.

01:05:38.000 By the way, I have my Blaze band lifted as well.

01:05:39.000 I must be really screwing up because I think I'm becoming socially acceptable again.

01:05:43.000 Mainstream.

01:05:44.000 No, no.

01:05:46.000 I mean, five Blaze shows in a row.

01:05:48.000 I'm like, what did I do?

01:05:49.000 I'm sorry.

01:05:51.000 Fox News next.

01:05:52.000 No, no.

01:05:53.000 Never.

01:05:54.000 I mean...

01:05:55.000 When they call.

01:05:57.000 I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

01:05:59.000 Some of you will know this.

01:06:03.000 I try to do things.

01:06:08.000 I think I describe myself This is sort of Jack Bauer who has to be disavowed officially but gets the job done privately.

01:06:15.000 And I was very happy to be called by a member of the Trump family on election night to thank me for my work getting rid of...

01:06:23.000 Let me pull this story up real quick so I can set it up.

01:06:25.000 Sure, sure.

01:06:26.000 So we have this story from The Hollywood Reporter.

01:06:28.000 They say, the Milo Yiannopoulos makeover, the alt-rights fallen poster boy is back for Trump 2.0.

01:06:34.000 Then the story...

01:06:35.000 It's my Tim Pool era.

01:06:36.000 It's a profile.

01:06:37.000 I picked a heck of a picture of you, Milo.

01:06:39.000 They say this.

01:06:40.000 I'm going to rebrand myself as Milo IRL. Let me read this for you.

01:06:44.000 This is praise of Milo.

01:06:45.000 Just before midnight on November 5th, Milo Yiannopoulos' phone rang.

01:06:48.000 On the horn from West Palm Beach, says a source familiar with the matter, was a member of Donald Trump's family.

01:06:53.000 The caller would soon take the stage at Mar-a-Lago, beaming on stage alongside the president.

01:06:59.000 God bless USA, blasted across the room full of supporters.

01:07:01.000 But first, they wanted to personally thank Milo for helping the campaign smear once-useful idiots.

01:07:07.000 Allies no longer wanted in Trump's orbit, he says.

01:07:10.000 Call if indeed it happened as described, which when Yiannopoulos is concerned is never a given.

01:07:16.000 I mean, they're not wrong.

01:07:17.000 They're not wrong.

01:07:18.000 They're not wrong.

01:07:29.000 And they mention that this was...

01:07:31.000 Where do they mention this?

01:07:34.000 Right at the very end.

01:07:36.000 It's a very long profile.

01:07:37.000 It's a very long, lavish, loving profile.

01:07:39.000 Is it the small...

01:07:39.000 If you just keep going...

01:07:40.000 I see here.

01:07:41.000 It says, Yiannopoulos published what he purported to be Loomer's history of mental health issues, and poof, went her access to the present elect's inner circle.

01:07:47.000 As slippery as Yiannopoulos can be, he can deliver.

01:07:50.000 This is Tarantula's sales pitch, after all.

01:07:52.000 And if the business takes off, expect to see such tactics multiplied by the number of clients on his roster, official or not.

01:07:59.000 So what is the claim they're making that you did?

01:08:00.000 Slippery.

01:08:01.000 It's only because I'm so well moisturized.

01:08:06.000 Post-Kanye, I have started a talent management agency to look after other difficult mercurial stars.

01:08:15.000 It's called Tarantula.

01:08:18.000 I've never really done this on a show before, but I'm going to be shameless this evening.

01:08:21.000 By the way...

01:08:22.000 No, trnt.la.

01:08:24.000 You can go to Tarantula and you can see our extraordinary past client list, which I'm sure that Tim is going to be kind enough to throw up on screen, trnt.la.

01:08:34.000 And so we do a lot of talent management, but we also do what I would describe as retribution as a service.

01:08:44.000 So it's like Norm Macdonald in Dirty Work?

01:08:46.000 Yeah.

01:08:47.000 So every appalling...

01:08:50.000 That movie was awesome.

01:08:51.000 Every appalling, underhanded, disgraceful, disgusting, and oh my gosh, how can a human being do this to another human being?

01:08:57.000 That's me.

01:08:58.000 The United Nations was a client?

01:09:00.000 Of my partner.

01:09:01.000 So there's three general partners of the firm.

01:09:05.000 Bianca Jacob is one of mine, believe it or not.

01:09:07.000 So anyway, so we have our previous client list scrolling gracefully across the screen.

01:09:13.000 XXX is dead.

01:09:14.000 What happened there?

01:09:15.000 Well, I was an advisor of his immediately before he died.

01:09:17.000 George and Laura Bush.

01:09:18.000 Wow.

01:09:19.000 That's my political partner.

01:09:21.000 William Jefferson Clinton.

01:09:22.000 My political partner again.

01:09:24.000 Wow.

01:09:24.000 Yeah.

01:09:25.000 So we have five presidents among the three of us that we have worked for, including the current one.

01:09:31.000 Well, the one to be, I mean.

01:09:33.000 And, you know, Azealia Banks and Kanye West and XXXTentacion when he was alive and I was in Florida helping.

01:09:40.000 You know, that was sort of 2016-ish kind of period when he was becoming a bit of one of those.

01:09:43.000 So I was working for him a little bit.

01:09:46.000 So, yeah, I mean, I worked for Bianca Jagger, believe it or not.

01:09:50.000 A bunch of other interesting people.

01:09:52.000 Azealia Banks lasted about three weeks as a client.

01:09:55.000 I'm shocked.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, a stunner.

01:09:57.000 So retribution as a service side of things is when a useful Lydia has outlived their usefulness, for instance, Nick Fuentes or Laura Luma, I will occasionally be called and offered vast sums of money to get rid of them.

01:10:10.000 By who?

01:10:11.000 That must remain a matter for me and the family.

01:10:15.000 So one of those things is if you missed the beginning of this show, you'll have missed me brandishing the complete wit and wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes.

01:10:25.000 Lovingly compiled by mentor and role model, Mylonopoulos.

01:10:28.000 And this is my new book.

01:10:29.000 Your book has some endorsements, you were saying.

01:10:32.000 Oh, thank you for reminding me.

01:10:33.000 Yes, so it's got some blurbs.

01:10:35.000 I'm going to read you the blurbs.

01:10:36.000 First of all, I'll read you the back cover.

01:10:37.000 So the back cover says, Lovingly compiled over a decade by his role model, mentor, and inspiration, Mylonopoulos.

01:10:43.000 This book is an exhaustive intellectual history of the America First movement.

01:10:46.000 Its wisdom and wit eloquently expressed in the words of its leader, Nick Fuentes.

01:10:50.000 Complete and unabridged, this volume contains every brilliant thought Nick has ever expressed.

01:10:55.000 Together with all of his best jokes, it's a perfect gift for the Groyper in your life.

01:10:59.000 The complete wit and wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes will be treasured by the whole family for years to come.

01:11:03.000 You actually got these quotes from high-profile people?

01:11:06.000 Well, that's my blurb about my book.

01:11:08.000 No, I know.

01:11:08.000 I'm going to read you now.

01:11:10.000 I've got to do it on the phone.

01:11:10.000 I'm terribly sorry for the...

01:11:12.000 Here are the blurbs for the book.

01:11:15.000 Let's look.

01:11:16.000 Tucker Carlson, if you thought Dangerous was a page turner, you won't believe how fast you'll get through this.

01:11:22.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene, a perfect portrait of the mind of Nicholas Fuentes.

01:11:26.000 Raw Egg Nationalist, the great Raw Egg Nationalist says, left me feeling empty.

01:11:30.000 And Laura Trump says, I have no worries.

01:11:32.000 So if you are interested, it'll be out in a couple of days.

01:11:35.000 A couple of days on Amazon and everywhere else.

01:11:37.000 I'm sorry it wasn't available today.

01:11:39.000 But it'll be out soon.

01:11:40.000 Lovely colour.

01:11:41.000 Features of Swanky Notebook.

01:11:42.000 Are you going to show us what's inside?

01:11:43.000 Well, I'd like to keep the contents, I think, for buyers, except to tell you one story, which is I set the record straight about that infamous dinner.

01:11:52.000 That infamous dinner at Mar-a-Lago.

01:11:54.000 So I do set the record straight about that infamous dinner at Mar-a-Lago.

01:11:57.000 So...

01:11:59.000 You'll remember it because there was an ill-fated, although very highly viewed, I note, a Timcast episode in which my old boss, Kanye West, unfortunately decided the interview was over quite early into the episode after Tim had been very generous and kind to us in all kinds of ways.

01:12:18.000 And I was like, oh, no.

01:12:20.000 So, please don't, please don't.

01:12:22.000 But, of course, you know, when you're working for somebody, you've got to follow the boss out the door, for which I apologise.

01:12:27.000 But...

01:12:29.000 So, the dinner at Mar-a-Lago, if you recall that, where I sort of took credit for making the president's life difficult, I do set the record straight, and I would like to again now, which is that...

01:12:42.000 Immediately after being cancelled, immediately after losing Adidas and his bank account and the rest of it, Ye hired me to rebuild his company.

01:12:52.000 So I ran Yeezy first as political director and then as chief of staff for two years.

01:12:57.000 It's a multi-billion dollar, multinational fashion and music brand.

01:13:02.000 I was like, really?

01:13:02.000 You want me and George?

01:13:03.000 But I turned out to be good at it.

01:13:05.000 I actually murdered it.

01:13:08.000 He really didn't have any staff to speak of at all.

01:13:12.000 I booked his ticket.

01:13:13.000 He flew commercial and his tickets were on my credit card because he didn't have a working credit card to go meet Donald Trump for dinner.

01:13:21.000 A dinner that was long planned and I couldn't make it and he took Nick Fuentes, unfortunately.

01:13:27.000 And I thought, well, what am I going to do?

01:13:29.000 So I called a political operative in Florida who is very well connected, works for five presidents, so on and so forth, called Karen Giorno, to try to grease the wheels a little bit, to sort of smooth it all over.

01:13:41.000 And so she picked them up at the airport, they went to the airport, and the rest of it.

01:13:44.000 And after that dinner had happened, and the Nick Fuentes-like thing had kind of blown up, Ye got a bit spooked about blowing his relationship up forever with Trump.

01:13:54.000 So I kind of took the fall for it.

01:13:56.000 I fell on my sword and I said, it was me.

01:13:57.000 I was trying to get back at Trump for not recognizing me after the election.

01:14:01.000 It was a very plausible lie because I did kind of feel like that.

01:14:05.000 And I took the rap for it.

01:14:06.000 But the real story is that Ye asked me...

01:14:09.000 What's going to really leave a dent?

01:14:11.000 What's going to leave a mark?

01:14:12.000 And I'm like, I don't know, take Fuentes.

01:14:15.000 That'll do it.

01:14:17.000 So anyway, this poor woman, Karen Giorno, who I know, she's basically the person you call in Florida if you want to get somebody who's not in the usual Mar-a-Lago circle into the circle and sort of smoothly move through that environment.

01:14:31.000 So I called her and I said, could you pick up Kanye West at the airport and drive him to dinner?

01:14:35.000 And I didn't tell her that Nick Fuentes was in the car.

01:14:38.000 And so anyway, there's a lot more to that, and I'll leave it for...

01:14:42.000 Can I follow up with you something on there?

01:14:43.000 Because it's sort of like in this quote, but first they wanted to personally thank Mila for helping with the campaign, smear once useful idiots and no longer Trump allies.

01:14:52.000 Isn't it odd?

01:14:53.000 Because it sounds like you brought Nick Fuentes to the dinner and you're taking care of a problem that you helped make for Trump.

01:14:58.000 That's probably true.

01:15:00.000 Although what...

01:15:01.000 It's like, thanks for taking out the garbage that you threw in my campaign.

01:15:05.000 Well, it was nice enough for them to call and say thank you.

01:15:07.000 But what they're really talking about...

01:15:10.000 You must really hate me.

01:15:12.000 What they're really talking about was Laura Loomer.

01:15:14.000 Laura Loomer...

01:15:15.000 Laura Loomer...

01:15:17.000 Why was she brought in to begin with?

01:15:19.000 Completely insane.

01:15:20.000 And Laura was brought on into the campaign by Jason Miller, who is that sort of frog-faced, useless bag of...

01:15:32.000 Never mind, but...

01:15:34.000 Jason Miller has done nothing but make it more difficult for Trump to win since he was brought into the inner circle.

01:15:40.000 But he's either got something on Trump or he brings money in.

01:15:43.000 I don't know which one it is.

01:15:44.000 Nobody does.

01:15:45.000 But Jason Miller and Boris Epstein, who's the head of Trump's legal thing, these are the two guys that were kind of like, oh, yeah, Laura Lee.

01:15:51.000 Maybe Laura Looma.

01:15:53.000 And so she gets on the plane and then Laura Looma claims to a bunch of people in Palm Beach, all of her friends around in Miami, that she had performed.

01:16:03.000 Family Friendly.

01:16:04.000 Huh?

01:16:04.000 I was going to say a sex act!

01:16:07.000 There you go.

01:16:08.000 She alleged this.

01:16:09.000 She alleged to people she was spreading those...

01:16:11.000 Listen, I love you and I try to take care of you.

01:16:13.000 Do you know how difficult it is for me to talk like this on your show?

01:16:15.000 Do you know how hard this is?

01:16:17.000 A members-only show, I'll say, we'll go off.

01:16:21.000 Or whatever it is.

01:16:23.000 You know, it's been so long since I had sex.

01:16:25.000 I did it a long way.

01:16:26.000 I did it like that.

01:16:27.000 I was just completely wrong.

01:16:30.000 No, she claimed that she had performed a sex act.

01:16:34.000 On the president to a lot of her friends.

01:16:37.000 And this, I was like, okay, all right, okay.

01:16:40.000 So I got a call from somebody and they said, we need to get rid of her.

01:16:44.000 The president wants to get rid of her, but he doesn't want to be the one to do it because she's crazy.

01:16:49.000 So we don't want her turning on the president because so many people, so many followers and everything.

01:16:55.000 So my job was to bring things about Laura to light that made her...

01:17:02.000 Ineligible to, you know, be on the plane and around the present circle.

01:17:06.000 So, for instance, she's not Jewish.

01:17:10.000 She made it up.

01:17:11.000 A friend of mine was there when she did it.

01:17:13.000 She ordered a Star of David necklace off the internet so that she could be ruder about Jews on stage at a rally in 2018.

01:17:21.000 Laura Loomer isn't Jewish?

01:17:21.000 She's not Jewish.

01:17:22.000 She's the only person in history.

01:17:24.000 Wait, so what's the...

01:17:25.000 She's the only person in history.

01:17:26.000 I submitted her for the Guinness Book of Records because she's the only person in history who's ever had a nose job to look more Jewish.

01:17:32.000 It's the most amazing thing you've ever heard in your life.

01:17:34.000 But I also...

01:17:36.000 I've never heard that about her before.

01:17:37.000 She's not actually Jewish.

01:17:38.000 And when she even ran for Congress, that never came up.

01:17:42.000 Right.

01:17:42.000 When she was...

01:17:43.000 Well, that's because I was a communications director.

01:17:45.000 But no, when...

01:17:47.000 Sorry, I'm sorry.

01:17:53.000 It sounds like things went sour with Laura and you guys have a lot of bad blood and you sank her as a result of that.

01:17:59.000 Am I reading this right?

01:18:00.000 People do pay me a lot of money to clean up my own messes.

01:18:02.000 I'm just realizing this now.

01:18:03.000 Anyway, so when Laura was going to give a talk to the Republican Jewish Palm Beach Coalition or whatever it is, she drew what she thought was the Star of David on the folder she was holding her speech in, the speech I had just written for her.

01:18:22.000 Except it wasn't a Star of David.

01:18:24.000 It was a pentagram.

01:18:25.000 And I said, Laura, darling, can I have that folder back?

01:18:28.000 And she's like, why?

01:18:30.000 I'm on the way out.

01:18:30.000 I've got a speech to give.

01:18:31.000 I said, yeah, I know you've got a speech to give.

01:18:32.000 I just wrote it.

01:18:33.000 Can I just say, what, what, what?

01:18:35.000 And I said, well, you've written that?

01:18:37.000 She's like, yes, yes, it's a star.

01:18:38.000 It's a Jewish, Jewish.

01:18:39.000 I want to speak to a Jewish.

01:18:40.000 But it's it.

01:18:42.000 It's a pentagram.

01:18:43.000 I said, what do you mean it's a pentagram?

01:18:44.000 I said, well, that's the Satanism thing.

01:18:46.000 That's five stars.

01:18:47.000 The Jewish star has six stars.

01:18:50.000 And I had to draw on a whiteboard the difference and ask her to copy it, and she couldn't copy the two.

01:18:59.000 People will say, because there's no difference.

01:19:01.000 But you couldn't copy it.

01:19:04.000 So this is the first clue.

01:19:05.000 Thank you.

01:19:06.000 This is the first clue I had something was wrong.

01:19:07.000 Anyway, and the second thing that I released was that, in addition to her...

01:19:13.000 That's what sank her among Trump?

01:19:15.000 No, no.

01:19:16.000 What really sank her among Trump is he hates plastic surgery, and he wondered why she looked so weird.

01:19:20.000 And when I told them it's because she'd had so many procedures, Trump is kind of a bit repulsed by plastic surgery.

01:19:27.000 That's the real thing that sank her.

01:19:28.000 But the other thing that I did that expelled her from the circle to the great applause and thanks of the campaign and his whole family was that I revealed the real reason she can't own a gun.

01:19:42.000 So Laura Looma says that she can't own a gun or have an open carry license in California because the FBI is targeting her for being a conservative.

01:19:50.000 But I have a letter from them, which I acquired, which in fact says it's because her own father had her committed in what we in California call a 5150, a forcible psych hold, twice.

01:20:03.000 And that's why she's not allowed to own a gun, because she's mental.

01:20:07.000 And so the headline was, why can't Laura Looma own a gun?

01:20:11.000 I asked the FBI, comma, and her dad Jeff.

01:20:16.000 And I got her dad to like...

01:20:18.000 I flipped her dad.

01:20:21.000 I do want to make sure we get to this story.

01:20:24.000 Sorry, no, I'm done.

01:20:25.000 I'm done.

01:20:25.000 We have about 10 minutes before Super Chat, so let's jump to the story from Newsweek.

01:20:28.000 Chinese ships suspected of undersea cable sabotage detained in NATO Lake.

01:20:34.000 This is where things get pretty crazy.

01:20:36.000 So already, Europe is preparing for World War III, they say.

01:20:38.000 They've mobilized 800,000 NATO troops.

01:20:41.000 They're giving out pamphlets in some Baltic states saying, prepare for war.

01:20:45.000 Here's how you need to do it.

01:20:46.000 Russia has, of course, updated their nuclear doctrine to lower the threshold.

01:20:50.000 Then we saw two undersea cables severed.

01:20:52.000 We got a great call from one of our members last night who said, is this possibly a precursor to a larger escalation of war?

01:20:58.000 Because destruction of communications tends to be the first move.

01:21:01.000 Now they have detained a Chinese vessel, which, let's hope it's not the case, could implicate China involving them in a greater conflict.

01:21:11.000 Newsweek says a Chinese vessel has been implicated in what has been described as the sabotage of undersea telecom cables in the Baltic Sea.

01:21:17.000 International concerns surround the cutting of the 730 mile Sea Lion 1 cable connecting Finland and Germany and the 130 mile link between Sweden and Lithuania on Monday.

01:21:28.000 German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius described the incentives as hybrid actions, while the Swedish and Lithuanian counterparts said they were deeply concerned.

01:21:35.000 Is it okay if I go for a tinkle?

01:21:36.000 It is absolutely okay.

01:21:37.000 Because I don't care at all about this.

01:21:39.000 Well, all right.

01:21:39.000 Excuse me.

01:21:40.000 Then I'll ask Elad.

01:21:42.000 World War III. Fortunately...

01:21:45.000 Don't close the door.

01:21:46.000 Okay, good.

01:21:47.000 I believe, fortunately...

01:21:49.000 He closed the door!

01:21:52.000 You were saying?

01:21:54.000 I don't think so.

01:21:55.000 Not in the near term.

01:21:57.000 I think a lot of people...

01:21:58.000 Putin's holding off on making any moves until Trump gets into office.

01:22:03.000 But no, I think there's just some asymmetric sort of warfare that we will have a tough time giving a like-kind response against.

01:22:12.000 I don't think we're going to go inside and start damaging cables.

01:22:14.000 What other weird thing happened?

01:22:16.000 But I mean, if China is involved in assisting Russia with severing or destroying communications, it has huge implications.

01:22:23.000 It very well may be a Chinese ship dragging an anchor, I guess, is what their argument was.

01:22:29.000 I hope that's the case, but I'm not convinced.

01:22:31.000 So I'm actually more concerned with the change in Russia's nuclear policy than with this communication.

01:22:39.000 Because this is possibly an accident, possibly something that wasn't intentional.

01:22:45.000 Whereas the official change in Russia's nuclear policy, that is specifically in response to Ukraine using U.S.-made weapons, likely using U.S. intelligence to help the strike.

01:23:01.000 These are very accurate weapons, so it's possibly also the US helping select targets.

01:23:07.000 In any other context, if it were a context where someone did this to the United States, it would 100% be looked at as the country that the attack came from and where the weapons came from.

01:23:18.000 It would be considered an act of war.

01:23:20.000 I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson on the way in today, and they were talking about how the politics in Russia are very different from here, and that Putin, if he doesn't, that he has to remain, he has to look a certain way to the Russian people.

01:23:38.000 Russians and Americans are not the same people.

01:23:40.000 The culture is very different.

01:23:42.000 And the politics are also very different.

01:23:44.000 As much as Putin does have a pretty solid grip on the country, there is a possibility of him being overthrown.

01:23:51.000 There's a possibility of him being killed, just like he likely tossed that dancer out of a building today.

01:23:58.000 Or not today, a couple days ago or whatever.

01:24:01.000 So, I mean, that kind of politics is a real thing.

01:24:05.000 And Putin's not insulated from that...

01:24:07.000 Entirely.

01:24:09.000 It's less likely that he's going to be targeted, but it's possible that he could be killed.

01:24:14.000 So he could end up being in a situation where if he looks weak...

01:24:19.000 He has to continue the war.

01:24:20.000 Yeah, if he looks weak, then he could get off.

01:24:24.000 So if that's the case...

01:24:27.000 I mean, he might be in a position where he has to escalate the war, you know?

01:24:31.000 Especially if there's more than one strike.

01:24:33.000 This strike may be able to be overlooked, but not continued.

01:24:38.000 You don't think potential Chinese involvement is substantially more worrying?

01:24:42.000 What a lovely toilet.

01:24:44.000 Of course.

01:24:44.000 It's great, right?

01:24:45.000 You've got the most remarkable latrine.

01:24:47.000 Sam Seder broke it.

01:24:49.000 And I'm not trying to rag at the guy.

01:24:51.000 It doesn't surprise me.

01:24:52.000 He said on the show, and I was surprised he brought it up, and I was like, he said, sorry about your toilet, and I was like, okay.

01:24:58.000 No, I've got to tell you, I live in a 22-room Travertine marble mansion in Los Angeles.

01:25:06.000 It belongs to a friend of mine.

01:25:10.000 It's pink marble and it's very finely pointed, but we don't have a toilet as nice as...

01:25:14.000 It is, it is, it is.

01:25:17.000 It's marvelous, but we don't have a toilet as nice as yours.

01:25:20.000 It was like a couple hundred bucks.

01:25:21.000 Tim, I think the thing here is plausible deniability that's coming from the Chinese.

01:25:25.000 So they could say, hey, we used an anchor to do it.

01:25:29.000 And then same with hitting boats in the Philippines.

01:25:31.000 We didn't do this on purpose.

01:25:32.000 I get it.

01:25:34.000 My point for Phil was I understand what you were saying about Putin and all that stuff.

01:25:37.000 My concern is if there's insinuated or evident Chinese involvement in conflict in Eastern Europe, we're overnight.

01:25:47.000 It's gradually, then suddenly, boom, World War III. Absolutely.

01:25:51.000 And to be honest with you, if there is going to be any kind of kinetic action, it is likely to be in the interim before President Trump is inaugurated.

01:26:03.000 There's a pattern of sabotage in the Baltic Sea because this is the same place as the Nord Stream pipeline.

01:26:07.000 Yeah, if the Nord Stream didn't get us into World War III, I don't know about some cables.

01:26:11.000 Yeah, but Germany accused Ukraine of doing that.

01:26:13.000 Yeah, and I think there was evidence that eventually came out that...

01:26:17.000 You were some Ukrainian guy who blew up Nord Stream.

01:26:19.000 Likely with U.S. involvement.

01:26:21.000 I doubt they could do it without U.S. involvement.

01:26:23.000 Germany accused the Ukrainian guy of blowing up Nord Stream, too.

01:26:26.000 And so when that happened, I was shocked and I said...

01:26:30.000 This country is an enemy of the United States.

01:26:32.000 They're actively trying to drag us into World War III, bombing a pipeline to our major allies in Europe.

01:26:37.000 The left removed that context and says Tim Pool called Ukraine an enemy.

01:26:41.000 And I'm like, yeah, why don't you include the part where Germany has accused them of bombing the gas pipeline that's supplying fuel to Western Europe?

01:26:48.000 Right.

01:26:48.000 That's not an act of allyship for the United States.

01:26:52.000 That's blowing up our energy resources.

01:26:54.000 To make the argument, I do think it was within the American interest to not have a pipeline going from Russia to Germany.

01:27:01.000 Because that allows their leverage, by the way.

01:27:03.000 So your argument is that NATO, that the United States violated NATO. You're saying that the United States acted with subterfuge to damage NATO nations that we are allied with.

01:27:14.000 I think the United States definitely had knowledge.

01:27:17.000 The reason why this war started is in part because Russia and Germany and so many Europeans are dependent on Russian oil.

01:27:25.000 Trump has actually talked about this when he was president in the past, and now the fruits are coming to bear.

01:27:29.000 Leverage that Russia holds over the Europeans is all through gas, and that's why they're less likely to get involved.

01:27:35.000 But the issue is, the US has been trying to offset Russian gas supply into Europe to lower the costs.

01:27:42.000 Destroying a pipeline increases how much Russia can charge through Gazprom, through the Ukrainian pipelines.

01:27:47.000 So bombing of Nord Stream 2 helped Russia, like, maintain control.

01:27:52.000 And it created a higher priority and more important on the existing gas lines they already control.

01:27:58.000 I think it forces Russians to now sell oil and pennies on the dollar to the Chinese now because they are unable to export as much oil and gas to the Europeans.

01:28:07.000 That's what we want to force them to do.

01:28:09.000 Why would they have to sell pennies on the dollar?

01:28:11.000 Well, they have been to China.

01:28:13.000 I know, because they have to make money and they're under sanctions.

01:28:15.000 But Germany is going to have a harder time pulling in natural gas now with Nord Stream getting bombed.

01:28:19.000 And Russia is going to say, we're 20% of the supply.

01:28:23.000 You've got to pay...

01:28:24.000 I understand they're both coming to Russia.

01:28:26.000 This is consequences for Germany deciding to make their gas and oil reliant on Russia.

01:28:31.000 Totally their fault, and they're dealing with the consequences of poor political decisions at their top echelon from a decade ago.

01:28:37.000 Sounds like your view is, I'm not saying you're wrong, is that Germany is a vassal of the United States.

01:28:42.000 They're an ally.

01:28:44.000 They're under our demand.

01:28:45.000 They're not an ally if we're bombing their energy sources.

01:28:48.000 If you think the United States directed a Ukrainian...

01:28:50.000 Germany has aspired for some time to occupy the position.

01:28:56.000 And I think it's an unbreakable partnership, like blacks and the Democrat Party between the UK and the US. And Germany has sometimes sought to occupy that position, never made much progress there.

01:29:11.000 But it's certainly true that they have wished that they had that relationship.

01:29:15.000 And again, I'm not saying you're wrong.

01:29:16.000 It would be that these European states are basically vassals of the United States.

01:29:19.000 And I'm not saying it's wrong.

01:29:20.000 It's actually probably true.

01:29:21.000 I think it's part of a larger partnership.

01:29:23.000 Well, I mean, look, any NATO member, to some degree, could be considered a vassal of the United States because the United States is funding their defense.

01:29:34.000 Right, right, right.

01:29:35.000 But I mean, like, you act out of line and we blow up your gas pipeline.

01:29:40.000 Right.

01:29:40.000 Every country on the planet Earth is therefore a vassal state.

01:29:43.000 You stand bottom line and we're blowing you up.

01:29:45.000 You're true with that, but if they are acting underneath the orders and instructions of NATO and the United States, and then if they get out of line, we bomb them, that treaty signifies that they are a subjugated nation.

01:29:58.000 Most of our allies are the junior partners.

01:30:00.000 To be fair, we've occupied Germany since World War II. We liberated.

01:30:03.000 Yes, liberated.

01:30:04.000 Liberated Germany.

01:30:05.000 There are theories that NATO was behind...

01:30:07.000 Eisenhower really liberated millions of Germans he murdered.

01:30:12.000 Yeah, I think we did liberate all of Europe, and the reason why we shouldn't pull back on that allyship that we have with them is because we don't want to have to come and rescue Europe again in another 40 years when they screw everything up between their balance of power.

01:30:23.000 Yeah, definitely Europe where the problems are right now.

01:30:26.000 Well, so we're going to wake up to World War III, or what's going to happen?

01:30:31.000 No, everybody's holding off till Trump gets in at least and then things will be calmer.

01:30:35.000 Yeah, they'll suck it up even if Biden kills, you know, a bunch of people he shouldn't.

01:30:39.000 They'll suck it up because they know Trump's coming in and they know there's no point.

01:30:43.000 There's a fear though that the current administration, I wouldn't call it Biden, is trying to escalate things to make it impossible for Trump to de-escalate.

01:30:50.000 Lincoln hates Russia.

01:30:52.000 It's never gonna be impossible for Trump to de-escalate, okay?

01:30:56.000 Trump is a generationally historic figure who perhaps there hasn't been somebody...

01:31:07.000 I don't think there's been anybody since maybe even Lincoln who has so completely and entirely embodied what it means to be America, whose fate is entwined with Americans.

01:31:18.000 Teddy Roosevelt.

01:31:19.000 Who has become...

01:31:21.000 Come on now.

01:31:22.000 Modern day neocon.

01:31:23.000 That's what they'd call him.

01:31:23.000 If Teddy Roosevelt was around right now, they'd call him a neocon.

01:31:26.000 Think about the manner in which Trump's fate is entwined with America's.

01:31:32.000 He didn't just say, I feel your pain, to his voters.

01:31:35.000 He took most of it on.

01:31:37.000 He shouldered it by bearing the brunt of the attacks from the left, by getting all of the lawfare, by becoming the...

01:31:44.000 Trump is a shorthand for everything that the Democrats hate about Republican voters, right?

01:31:49.000 Exactly.

01:31:52.000 And this is what I was trying to get at when I was on last time when we were talking about DeSantis and Trump.

01:31:58.000 And I was proven so spectacularly correct.

01:32:02.000 Because Trump is now indistinguishable from America.

01:32:06.000 Right.

01:32:07.000 And what was so brilliant about his stint at McDonald's was that it combined the eccentricity that you expect from an avuncular figure.

01:32:16.000 Because he's gone from daddy that he was in 2016 to more like pater patriae, father of the nation.

01:32:24.000 More like an avuncular kind of mythological.

01:32:26.000 Yes, exactly.

01:32:27.000 Trump has become mythological.

01:32:29.000 You read my tweet, didn't you?

01:32:31.000 Trump has become something greater than just an elected official.

01:32:36.000 He's become a stand-in for what it means to be America.

01:32:42.000 And so he's going to be like, he's a part of Americana now.

01:32:47.000 Exactly.

01:32:47.000 And, you know, when he does this McDonald's thing, and you have the eccentricities, like, untouched by human hands, because that's, of course, what he worries about, because he's like a germaphobe, whatever.

01:32:55.000 But he's also there, he's there as the, you know, America, that's how America, that's how everybody sees America, is powerful, Slightly ridiculous, but awesome, right?

01:33:08.000 That's pretty much how everyone sees America, right?

01:33:11.000 Strong, a bit silly, but ultimately pretty great, you know?

01:33:15.000 Or at least that's the best version of America.

01:33:17.000 The best version of America that's ever been, you know, and now we're getting a little bit back to that.

01:33:23.000 There's no world...

01:33:24.000 I mean, no one is going to war with the guy that walked across the demilitarized zone and shook hands with Kim Jong-un.

01:33:31.000 Nobody is going to war with the guy that Putin fears, because he knows that Trump will push the button, right?

01:33:37.000 Nobody's going to war with Trump.

01:33:39.000 Nobody.

01:33:39.000 And that means that nobody's going to go to war with a president-elect Trump either.

01:33:45.000 I don't think it's going to happen.

01:33:46.000 This is what I like about Trump.

01:33:46.000 I believe it.

01:33:47.000 There's...

01:33:48.000 You know, I was talking about a business deal I was in about seven or eight years ago, and what's traditional in the industry is they said- Is it with Russia?

01:33:55.000 No.

01:33:56.000 I'm just kidding.

01:33:56.000 It's with a New York-based network.

01:33:58.000 I'm joking.

01:33:59.000 And the way they say that these typical deals work is, and you know this probably in Hollywood, they give you a contract.

01:34:05.000 They call it boilerplate.

01:34:07.000 It stabs a knife in your back, and you've got to hire a lawyer to go through it and rip out all the evil.

01:34:11.000 And it's not just that, but there's a hierarchy of knives waiting to stab you in the back at every moment.

01:34:17.000 So if you dodge this one, the other one gets I go to this meeting.

01:34:20.000 They say, here's what we want to do.

01:34:22.000 It's fantastic.

01:34:23.000 We'll email you the contract.

01:34:24.000 I say, sounds good.

01:34:25.000 I look at it.

01:34:26.000 I read it.

01:34:26.000 I laugh.

01:34:27.000 And I say, are you nuts?

01:34:29.000 And then I respond to the email saying, I appreciate it, but this contract is not serious.

01:34:32.000 It hands over IP. It hands over ownership.

01:34:35.000 That's a ridiculous thing for you to have asked me for.

01:34:38.000 And...

01:34:39.000 Amend it.

01:34:39.000 They said, send it to your lawyers, redline it, and send it back.

01:34:43.000 I responded with, if you think you're going to put a $5,000 legal bill on me to try and do a business deal, I will not be entering business with someone like you.

01:34:51.000 And I said, kindly, F off.

01:34:52.000 But this is what everyone else has done.

01:34:54.000 I mean, look at the Wilkes Brothers system, okay?

01:34:56.000 But right, my point is simply this.

01:34:57.000 Sorry, just to finish.

01:34:58.000 This is what I like about Trump so much, and when you say he would push the button.

01:35:01.000 There are very few people that I've met that I respect who would be willing to say, I will...

01:35:09.000 Crash my own car before I would ever bend my knee to you.

01:35:13.000 Donald Trump is the guy who says to Putin, I will nuke you before I let you win.

01:35:18.000 And Putin's like, he might.

01:35:20.000 So this is called the Madman Doctrine.

01:35:24.000 And the Madman Doctrine was most notably deployed by Nixon.

01:35:30.000 And Nixon's thought was, if I make people think that I'm crazy and I'll do pretty much anything, people will be too afraid to start SHI, you know what?

01:35:40.000 And he was right about that.

01:35:41.000 And it was very effective.

01:35:44.000 Madman theory or the Madman doctrine is why Trump behaves like he does, which a lot of his critics don't understand, which is, if you think, and I guess I'm a student of this too, if you think somebody will do literally anything...

01:35:59.000 You cannot predict how they will retaliate.

01:36:02.000 And for the slightest of perceived insults, they might retaliate with massive, brutal punishment, which is typically how I like to operate.

01:36:11.000 You just don't go there.

01:36:13.000 It's not worth it.

01:36:14.000 There's just no point risking that.

01:36:18.000 But to your point about the contracts, interesting thing happening in media at the moment.

01:36:23.000 All of the people who took those deals are beginning to fall and fade.

01:36:29.000 Nobody talks about Ben Shapiro anymore.

01:36:30.000 Candace Owens has gone completely crazy.

01:36:33.000 All of those big – the people who took advantage of the censored and the canceled in 2017, who kind of – you might say stole our audiences.

01:36:46.000 Those guys, you know, the Wilkes Brothers and the, you know, whatever...

01:36:49.000 So the Wilkes Brothers are Texan billionaires who have funded most of the worst people in conservative media.

01:36:53.000 You know, the sort of people who are rabid Zionists, even by Republican standards.

01:37:02.000 Drop some names.

01:37:03.000 Well, I just did.

01:37:06.000 You know, The Daily Wire, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro.

01:37:10.000 What do you think's crazy about Candace Owens?

01:37:12.000 Rabid Zionist, I mean.

01:37:15.000 Well, she's gone the opposite way now because she's left and because she was...

01:37:19.000 It's a bit more complicated.

01:37:20.000 I'll get to that.

01:37:21.000 So she started off that way.

01:37:23.000 She's a creation of the Daily Wire, okay?

01:37:25.000 And she started off a Zionist, all right?

01:37:27.000 That's when they were funding her.

01:37:29.000 Now they're not.

01:37:30.000 You understand the difference?

01:37:30.000 Okay.

01:37:32.000 But you called her crazy, so what is she crazy about now?

01:37:35.000 Well, because she's gone off the ball into conspiracy theory because she no longer has a producer and she's started to make her own decisions, which is always a mistake for somebody who's never read a book.

01:37:43.000 Fact check, true.

01:37:45.000 Candice.

01:37:46.000 No, she's never forgiven me because I roasted her in front of many of, well, actually all of the richest Jews in Palm Beach.

01:37:53.000 We do got to go to Super Chats.

01:37:55.000 Sure, I'll be quick, I'll be quick.

01:37:57.000 The thing that's happening in media that's interesting, I think, is that all of the people who took those kinds of deals are falling or fading, right?

01:38:07.000 The people who gave their IP, gave their whatever.

01:38:09.000 So if you think of it like this, you have the Mercer ecosystem, which is Bannon, Breitbart, me, Tucker, and Trump.

01:38:19.000 And then you have the Wilkes Brothers ecosystem, which is the Daily Wire and all of the kind of like hyper-Zionist Prager, right?

01:38:27.000 Those people are all kind of like faltering at the moment, the people who took those kinds of deals.

01:38:31.000 And the people who didn't are starting to like spark up a little bit.

01:38:37.000 The reason Candice is in the trouble she's in is she got lured out of the safe environments of the Daily Wire, independent, and then lured into a variety of crazy positions by Nick Fuentes, who told her...

01:38:52.000 We got you.

01:38:53.000 I'm going to give you access to my gigantic audience.

01:38:56.000 And it turned out there was no gigantic audience because he's botted to buggery.

01:39:01.000 Just like all of the other Wilkes Brothers entities, they fake it till they make it.

01:39:06.000 Ben Shapiro did this.

01:39:07.000 She did this.

01:39:08.000 Nick Frenzel is attempting to do it just without the money, which is going to be a very, very nasty end for him.

01:39:12.000 But she's been lured out of this.

01:39:14.000 The point being this.

01:39:15.000 There's an opening now.

01:39:17.000 There is a huge market opportunity now for people who said, no.

01:39:22.000 And I did the same thing.

01:39:23.000 I was brought into WME and they gave me the same offer they gave you.

01:39:28.000 And I said, no.

01:39:32.000 There's a huge market opportunity now as all of those people who astroturfed their way to supposed fame, to like number one podcasts, none of their listeners are real.

01:39:42.000 None of their advertisers are not getting what they paid for.

01:39:46.000 The listeners aren't real.

01:39:47.000 The viewers aren't real.

01:39:49.000 The book purchasers aren't real.

01:39:51.000 All their books are...

01:39:52.000 I don't know if you know this, but when you write a book...

01:39:54.000 The books that I write are actually popular for politicians and whatnot.

01:39:59.000 If you are an unpopular person, you can pay about $500,000 to a firm that will buy loads of copies of your book in various different places to game the New York Times algorithm to make you a New York Times bestselling author.

01:40:13.000 It costs about half a million on a good week.

01:40:15.000 A million if there's another good book out.

01:40:17.000 All the people who did this, who have burned through millions, are now all kind of like fading out of the conversation.

01:40:23.000 So there's a big moment happening.

01:40:25.000 The reason I'm making such a big deal that I was talking about this for so long is...

01:40:29.000 Right now is the moment.

01:40:30.000 If you are an up-and-coming or an enthusiastic conservative podcaster or a wannabe host or you want to be somebody like Tim or you want to be somebody like whatever, now is the moment.

01:40:43.000 Because there is a huge widening of the market at this exact point in time with Trump's election and with the fall and fade of all of the previous gatekeepers and kingpins.

01:40:55.000 There is a massive opportunity right now and a huge empty space, a massive open playing field for you to just buy Azure MV7+, plug it into your laptop, get a simple camera and become really big and really wealthy.

01:41:12.000 We've got to go to Super Chat.

01:41:13.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know, and go to TimCast.com right now.

01:41:19.000 Click join us, become a member.

01:41:21.000 We're going to have an uncensored show in about 20 minutes.

01:41:24.000 Now, I've seen some people have signed up on YouTube memberships.

01:41:27.000 That is totally different, so let me clarify for those that are listening.

01:41:30.000 TimCast.com, separate website.

01:41:31.000 You click Join Us or sign up.

01:41:33.000 You become a member, $10 a month, and then we're going to have that members-only show on the front page of the site.

01:41:38.000 You'll see it in a little window.

01:41:39.000 It'll say Uncensored, 10 p.m.

01:41:40.000 Let's grab some Super Chats.

01:41:42.000 Before we do that, where did you get this from, this shearling denim thing?

01:41:46.000 Ralph Lauren.

01:41:47.000 Alright, super chats.

01:41:48.000 Oh dear.

01:41:49.000 So the first super chat is wonderful.

01:41:51.000 It says, from CricketSmile, Asterion from Baldur's Gate 3 is on Timcast tonight.

01:41:55.000 So why don't I just, let's see if I can pull up anything from Asterion.

01:42:01.000 Have you seen any of this?

01:42:02.000 Yes, the developer who sent me it.

01:42:06.000 I think he says darling a lot.

01:42:08.000 He certainly does.

01:42:13.000 See if we can get some interaction.

01:42:19.000 I heard it in the first syllable.

01:42:24.000 And our bodies react.

01:42:26.000 They had this guy listen to you speak.

01:42:28.000 There's no other way.

01:42:30.000 People think the biggest threat to a vampire is a character with a...

01:42:33.000 Oh, man.

01:42:36.000 Here we go.

01:42:37.000 I don't even remember his own face.

01:42:38.000 Come on.

01:42:39.000 I don't care about...

01:42:40.000 He's evil at all.

01:42:41.000 I don't want to hear this person talk.

01:42:42.000 He's a complex character.

01:42:43.000 I want to hear...

01:42:44.000 Here we go.

01:42:45.000 If you just get into...

01:42:46.000 Oh, this is the guy.

01:42:48.000 ...are going to go to town, but this...

01:42:51.000 Soon, there'll be mods letting you have sex with all kinds of different animals.

01:42:55.000 No...

01:42:59.000 They could have just hired me to do it.

01:43:01.000 They could have.

01:43:01.000 That would have been the proper thing to do.

01:43:03.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:43:05.000 What is this?

01:43:06.000 What is this?

01:43:06.000 Oh, come on.

01:43:07.000 TikTok.

01:43:08.000 Sacrifice.

01:43:09.000 I suggest virgins.

01:43:11.000 Young.

01:43:11.000 Sacrifice.

01:43:12.000 I suggest virgins.

01:43:13.000 These are awful.

01:43:16.000 Is there no YouTube video with just...

01:43:18.000 It's like you just...

01:43:19.000 You know, I've been spent...

01:43:21.000 I already know about us.

01:43:22.000 I'm the most powerful vampire in the realm!

01:43:25.000 I don't know why.

01:43:26.000 I just think it's adorable.

01:43:28.000 I'm the most powerful vampire in the realms!

01:43:30.000 Yeah, okay.

01:43:30.000 All right.

01:43:30.000 I get it.

01:43:31.000 I hear it.

01:43:33.000 All right.

01:43:34.000 Let's grab some more.

01:43:37.000 Let's see what we got.

01:43:39.000 Let's see.

01:43:40.000 Bastards!

01:43:44.000 Which one's Myrtle Snow?

01:43:52.000 I don't know.

01:43:53.000 The one that reminds me of me is the nurse in Grotesquerie on FX at the moment.

01:44:02.000 If anyone's seen that.

01:44:04.000 I will stress...

01:44:05.000 You know, I get Baldur's Gate 3, like, right when it comes out, download it, I play it, within a few minutes, you meet Asterion, and I was like, holy crap, I'm texting people being like, dude, are you seeing this?

01:44:15.000 No, they told me, they told me.

01:44:16.000 They, like, they modeled this character after you.

01:44:21.000 Many such cases.

01:44:22.000 You know, I don't like to toot my own horn, as anybody who knows me will tell you.

01:44:28.000 But, you know, there's plenty of legends.

01:44:30.000 There's only one icon.

01:44:32.000 Okay, so Mark Giudetti says, Tim, you are so wrong tonight.

01:44:35.000 Sodom and Gomorrah are the Old Testament, which is the Jewish Torah.

01:44:38.000 Stop being a know-it-all when you don't.

01:44:41.000 Christians don't have any of the Old Testament, huh?

01:44:45.000 I think the Old Testament has more than the Torah.

01:44:48.000 So, I am correct.

01:44:51.000 You are wrong.

01:44:52.000 Blackstone's formulation was rooted in the teachings of Sodom and Gomorrah, and if there's but one righteous person, that is true.

01:44:57.000 Read.

01:44:58.000 Read it.

01:44:58.000 That's a fact.

01:44:59.000 It doesn't mean anything beyond that.

01:45:02.000 I'm not a Christian.

01:45:03.000 But that's the basis of...

01:45:05.000 It is better that 10 guilty persons go free than one instant suffer.

01:45:09.000 What's good about you, Tim, and what I appreciate about you, is that even though you have not yet, or maybe never will, reached that point in a faith journey, you nonetheless recognize that the principles that the faith inspires in people...

01:45:29.000 The context of Christianity, the moral framework, is what makes society functioning, stable, prosperous, healthy, and it's what America was based on.

01:45:40.000 And a lot of people who don't have that personal kind of faith will try.

01:45:44.000 I mean, I remember very vividly Joe Rogan in 2017 bucking against this when I said it.

01:45:50.000 At least you do recognize that what makes your country great is, at least in part, It's Christian moral ethics, even if you can't quite get yourself there.

01:46:01.000 And I respect that about you.

01:46:03.000 There's the IQ bell curve meme of the guy whose eyes are on the side of his head and he says God is real.

01:46:08.000 Then there's the monk who's very intelligent and says God is real.

01:46:11.000 And there's the guy in the middle crying saying there's no God.

01:46:13.000 Absolutely.

01:46:13.000 And so there is a challenge in, you know, when I've talked to people who are Christian, And they don't quite know the logic behind the Ten Commandments and why they are functional and important for society to make sense.

01:46:25.000 It's because you live in a country where everyone's retarded.

01:46:28.000 But I will say this.

01:46:30.000 If you talk to a well-educated European Catholic, you'll be like, oh my god, every science just springs out of this.

01:46:38.000 My point is, it is better that people follow these things, even if they don't understand why, than they don't follow them at all.

01:46:44.000 Of course.

01:46:45.000 Of course.

01:46:45.000 We do it with everything else.

01:46:46.000 Why not with that?

01:46:47.000 But we did this on the show a couple years ago with Seamus.

01:46:50.000 We went through the Ten Commandments as – and I said, take this outside of the context of religion and logically apply them and discuss why these things make sense.

01:46:59.000 Honor your father and mother makes complete sense.

01:47:01.000 Without the family structure, societies collapse.

01:47:03.000 Don't murder.

01:47:03.000 Duh.

01:47:04.000 Societies collapse.

01:47:05.000 Mm-hmm.

01:47:05.000 And even as simply put as, have no gods before me, if you are following other laws that can lead to destruction, that will lead to societal collapse.

01:47:13.000 Which is the basis also of religious freedom being restricted to Christianity.

01:47:18.000 Because, look, Christianity is congruent and compatible with The Bill of Rights.

01:47:25.000 Other religions aren't.

01:47:27.000 The Bill of Rights are based upon.

01:47:28.000 Exactly.

01:47:29.000 Because you cannot have complete freedom from consequence saying whatever you want, however you want, whenever you want, with no consequence.

01:47:37.000 With Judaism.

01:47:38.000 Or with Islam.

01:47:40.000 It doesn't work.

01:47:41.000 Let's read some more Super Chats!

01:47:43.000 What do we got here?

01:47:45.000 Jason Hutton says, Holy Milo!

01:47:47.000 Ian dialed Beyond Eleven.

01:47:48.000 Much love to you all and appreciate the discourse and enlightenment.

01:47:51.000 Well, there you go.

01:47:53.000 Ian.

01:47:54.000 He's not here.

01:47:55.000 I know.

01:47:56.000 I'm greatly aggrieved by that.

01:47:57.000 I'm wounded by it.

01:47:58.000 But when we get to the members' show, if you haven't signed up, go and do it right now because I got some stuff to say about yesterday.

01:48:06.000 All right.

01:48:07.000 Soapy Enigma says, Elad, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?

01:48:14.000 I'm not sure how it would feel.

01:48:15.000 Is this one of those dumb jokes?

01:48:18.000 They're calling you a stupid black person.

01:48:22.000 I guess I'm not on my own.

01:48:24.000 There's no racial component to it.

01:48:25.000 Yeah, there is.

01:48:26.000 It's an IQ thing.

01:48:27.000 It was a 4chan meme that began with a court case involving a black defendant who was asked, how would you have felt if you did such and such?

01:48:39.000 Well, I did do such and such.

01:48:40.000 He wasn't able to understand hypotheticals.

01:48:43.000 He wasn't able to understand...

01:48:49.000 Conditional hypotheticals was...

01:48:50.000 Yes.

01:48:52.000 It's sort of a sub-ATIQ thing, so that's what that was.

01:48:56.000 Well, no, he answered correctly.

01:48:57.000 He said, I don't know how it would affect.

01:48:59.000 Yes, he surprised us all.

01:49:02.000 He's got fighting words for you.

01:49:04.000 We'll have fun in the members session.

01:49:06.000 Milo comes from somewhere.

01:49:07.000 He comes from a Muslim country.

01:49:08.000 For him to pretend he's coming here and saving our country is just so funny and rich.

01:49:11.000 Save it for the members only segment before it gets too funny.

01:49:14.000 Too funny.

01:49:16.000 Alright, what do we have?

01:49:17.000 We'll grab some more.

01:49:19.000 I'm scrolling down here, and we're getting the—here we go.

01:49:22.000 The line says, Jefferson was a deist.

01:49:24.000 He compiled his own New Testament, which stripped the divinity from the Yeshua story, but still recognized the movement derived thereof, and good and moral, a lot wrong as usual.

01:49:34.000 And I think there was only a couple that were considered deist and overwhelmingly Christian.

01:49:39.000 And so the context about, like, why didn't they write that we're Christians?

01:49:44.000 And it's like, why don't the fish—it's the fish in the water.

01:49:47.000 Why don't fish say they live in the ocean?

01:49:49.000 Why didn't they say it explicitly?

01:49:50.000 Because they didn't intend for it to be explicitly a Christian nation.

01:49:54.000 They didn't write it anywhere.

01:49:56.000 It's like listening to Ian talk about fractals.

01:49:58.000 I can't do it.

01:50:01.000 Look, Elad, first.

01:50:02.000 We love Ian.

01:50:05.000 But if there's any way it needs to go with the crystals, it's got to be the guy that has the biggest collection of them, surely.

01:50:10.000 Let me just say, at this point, I have not read all of Federalist Papers.

01:50:16.000 I have read letters.

01:50:17.000 I have read some of the writings, specifically essays and theories of the Founding Fathers, and it is fairly explicit.

01:50:24.000 If you have not done any of these things...

01:50:27.000 Can you pull one up of the Federalist Papers where you think it's explicit then?

01:50:30.000 Maybe we'll do it in the after show.

01:50:31.000 I'm just saying this.

01:50:32.000 I've never met anybody who conjures in my mind...

01:50:37.000 More vividly than you do, the vision of a shelf of uncracked spines.

01:50:43.000 Okay.

01:50:44.000 Of a vast library that's never...

01:50:46.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:50:48.000 I've never been expressing to you guys, trying to explain how...

01:50:52.000 The uncracked spine.

01:50:53.000 If you know you have not read any of these things...

01:50:56.000 Then you should be careful to assert with fact.

01:50:59.000 Okay, I've done enough research into our founding documents, and I think it's abundantly...

01:51:04.000 All right, well, we'll do it in the after show.

01:51:06.000 And just for the record, there is a consensus on this issue of whether or not people believe that the country and the founders believed for it to be a Christian nation or not.

01:51:16.000 This is like a Democrat saying you can't own a cannon.

01:51:18.000 It's like, well, it doesn't say you can't have a cannon, but the Founding Fathers owned cannons.

01:51:21.000 They had privateers.

01:51:22.000 I'm excited for you to pull up Christianity in the Federalist Papers.

01:51:25.000 I don't love the First and Second Amendment without a sort of Christian requirements, but there is a part of me having lived here for so long, and I did do that British thing of like, I'm in a truck and this is awesome.

01:51:35.000 Let me read some more.

01:51:36.000 I do feel if you can afford a surface-to-air missile, you should probably be allowed to have one.

01:51:42.000 Yeah.

01:51:43.000 If I've got 20 million to buy one, I probably should be able to have one.

01:51:47.000 And there are private corporations that manufacture these things.

01:51:51.000 And they have a writ from the government like there was...

01:51:53.000 Run by my very good friends.

01:51:55.000 All right.

01:51:56.000 Patriot Tax says, as an Anglican, yes, America was founded as a Christian nation.

01:52:00.000 England is also a Christian nation.

01:52:02.000 I pray...

01:52:03.000 She realizes it soon before she's conquered by Islam.

01:52:06.000 Ah, England.

01:52:07.000 England needs a Trump of their own.

01:52:09.000 We are all mourning for the England of years gone by.

01:52:15.000 And there's no shame and no point denying that, no other thing to say about it.

01:52:19.000 I think England made a...

01:52:21.000 You know, the greatest mistake, the greatest geopolitical mistake of the last hundred years is not keeping India close.

01:52:29.000 Because India has been forced from neglect and abuse and negligence to line up with India, with China, all the rest of it.

01:52:38.000 When India is, in some respects, the guardian, the custodian of all of the best things of Britain, right?

01:52:44.000 Whether it's education or manners or language.

01:52:47.000 I mean, educated Indians speak better English than the English do.

01:52:51.000 And the great tragedy for me geopolitically of the last hundred years is that we allowed India to wander off through neglect and through not looking after our friends or maybe through shame for colonialism, which is of course ridiculous.

01:53:04.000 And forge alliances, they should never have had to, have been forced to.

01:53:08.000 India had no choice.

01:53:09.000 And it's largely because the US sided with Pakistan in certain circumstances.

01:53:17.000 Again, remarkably stupid.

01:53:20.000 You're going to like this next Super Chat, so I just want to try and get this in.

01:53:23.000 All right.

01:53:24.000 Fatboy says, I feel like if the founders wanted this to be an only Christian nation, they wouldn't have included that whole no establishment of a religion thing at the start of the Constitution.

01:53:33.000 Well, then you have to answer the question of why in all of the other founding documents they say the inalienable rights come from God.

01:53:41.000 And I think it's important to point out, Milo already made this point in the show, that the concern was not that this country would not be religious, but that there were different factions of Christianity that, if you take a look at Ireland, people are not too fond of each other over there.

01:53:54.000 It's not unique to Christianity.

01:53:55.000 Monotheism is not unique to Christianity, so God still doesn't have any contradictions.

01:54:00.000 He's right, they should have wrote Yahweh or something.

01:54:01.000 No, they should have wrote Christianity.

01:54:03.000 They should have mentioned Jesus explicitly if they believed it, and they didn't for a reason.

01:54:06.000 Well, you're lucky they didn't.

01:54:10.000 The practical reality of the 18th century was that they were casting off, as they perceived, the shackles of the father country.

01:54:27.000 And that the British monarch was the head of the Anglican Church.

01:54:30.000 So there was no choice but to invent a new one, which we now know is the Episcopalian Church, and to allow for other people who had different, as I would put it, different varieties of heresy, different varieties of Protestantism, so they didn't war with each other.

01:54:46.000 And it is that simple.

01:54:47.000 And it is not a controversial thing among any historian or academic.

01:54:50.000 Jonathan Foreman says, Tim, we need Ian Moon Lord, Lord Moonbeam, versus Milo Chaos God in a debate on anything.

01:54:58.000 You know, I was slightly sad not to see Ian here, but just because I enjoy being cruel.

01:55:04.000 But I felt I gave him enough the last time.

01:55:06.000 But if there is, I'll repeat because I think somebody was talking over me, but if there's anybody that deserves to go in the crystals, it's surely the guy that owns more of them than anybody I know.

01:55:17.000 Ian has got to go in the crystals.

01:55:19.000 Jaded Soul says, Milo, my aunt loves you.

01:55:21.000 She greatly enjoyed your book, Dangerous.

01:55:23.000 Can you give Tara a birthday shout-out?

01:55:25.000 Tara, happy birthday.

01:55:27.000 I'm sorry you're old.

01:55:29.000 As somebody who just turned 40, I now too am dealing with the vicissitudes and horrors of old age.

01:55:36.000 I've started to get Charlie horses in the morning.

01:55:38.000 The real reason for this beanie is I'm losing my hair.

01:55:42.000 No, no, I've been bleaching it for...

01:55:44.000 No, it's not.

01:55:45.000 It was a tribute to you.

01:55:46.000 It was a tribute to you after Joe stole my look.

01:55:50.000 I have always taken the view that birthdays should be for other people.

01:55:53.000 And so if you are celebrating your birthday today, take a little moment in between opening gifts from others to remember to do something really lovely for somebody else.

01:56:02.000 Because birthdays are nice to be celebrated, and I go through my whole life being celebrated, of course, because I'm wonderful.

01:56:09.000 But on my birthday, I try to take a break from that and to do something lovely for others.

01:56:14.000 And so, happy birthday, but in the hours that remain, take a little moment to do something kind for somebody who's not expecting it from you.

01:56:21.000 All right, we got two here that are just for Milo.

01:56:23.000 The first one is from David Brickham.

01:56:27.000 Milo is one of the most philosophical, intelligent, and hilarious people you've had on the show.

01:56:30.000 I've cried laughing.

01:56:32.000 These days, there's nothing funnier than the truth.

01:56:33.000 But hold your horses, Milo, because Tyler B. says, Milo is the personification of, if I'm louder than you, I'm right, because all he can do is talk and sing his way over everyone when he realizes he is wrong.

01:56:44.000 As a gay man myself, we need to bring back bullying.

01:56:46.000 Oh, there you go.

01:56:48.000 Okay.

01:56:49.000 I doubt Milo realizes he's wrong.

01:56:51.000 No, I had to give you both the Milo is the best and Milo is the worst at the same time.

01:56:55.000 I can't comment on the second Super Chat having never been wrong.

01:57:00.000 But I will say, if you want to hear me sing, albums are available.

01:57:07.000 Bad Romance.

01:57:08.000 I do want to do a Christmas album.

01:57:10.000 I've always wanted to do a big band Christmas album.

01:57:12.000 Sounds fun.

01:57:13.000 Maybe you could do a sort of emo thrash bonus track or something.

01:57:17.000 But I've always wanted to do a Christmas album.

01:57:20.000 We'll talk about it afterwards.

01:57:22.000 Alright, YouTube's on the fritz again.

01:57:25.000 Carl Smith says, Milo, in the immortal words of Mr.

01:57:28.000 Rogers, the one thing that evil cannot stand is forgiveness.

01:57:30.000 I think that is the quote at least.

01:57:32.000 Yes.

01:57:33.000 And, you know, something that has been really – you know, look, I'm paid a lot of money by all kinds of people whose names I can't mention because, you know, they're not supposed to know me to do, in some cases, quite awful things to people.

01:57:51.000 But the thing that hurts your enemies the most is to tell them that you love them, that you forgive them, and that you wish the best for them, that you are praying for them, and that you want them to be better than they are.

01:58:00.000 And I try to...

01:58:02.000 I've always tried to take that kind of...

01:58:04.000 It's not really a speck, really.

01:58:06.000 More of a huge shard of dark flint in my heart.

01:58:10.000 That enjoys schadenfreude and all the rest of it.

01:58:13.000 And I've tried to channel it for good.

01:58:15.000 I've not always exceeded.

01:58:16.000 I've not always done a perfect job of this, but I'm getting better at it.

01:58:19.000 And I try to use that bit of me that I don't always love so much for good.

01:58:25.000 And so I've learned through my occasional churlishness and cruelty that nothing hurts somebody who kind of knows that they're doing wrong and kind of knows that they're screwing up.

01:58:37.000 Like you're telling them that you forgive them and that you love them and that you hope that they see the light and that they come home to the Lord and that they come home to the truth.

01:58:44.000 And honestly, it's the greatest lesson I've learned in the last 10 years.

01:58:48.000 I agree.

01:58:49.000 And so I've told this story before that I tip bad servers very well.

01:58:53.000 Oh, I don't tip at all.

01:58:54.000 Oh, I tip bad servers.

01:58:55.000 I don't believe in rewarding failure.

01:58:57.000 No, if you're a server over the age of, you know, 19.

01:59:01.000 I mean, come on.

01:59:04.000 It's a bit like taxation.

01:59:07.000 It's like taxation, really, isn't it?

01:59:09.000 What's wrong?

01:59:10.000 What's wrong with taking from the poor to give to the rich?

01:59:12.000 Poor people are terrible with money.

01:59:14.000 If they weren't terrible with money, they wouldn't be poor.

01:59:16.000 Make this point before we go to the members, Joe.

01:59:18.000 I really don't understand this.

01:59:19.000 Why would you tip something?

01:59:20.000 Margaret Thatcher said, if you get the bus to work after the age of 30, you have failed as a man.

01:59:24.000 You have failed as a human being.

01:59:25.000 I mean, my gosh.

01:59:26.000 So why wouldn't you?

01:59:28.000 So the best taxation is regressive taxation, which taxes the poor at 20% and tapers down.

01:59:33.000 So if you're earning over a million dollars a year, you pay nothing.

01:59:36.000 Nothing.

01:59:36.000 All right.

01:59:37.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody.

01:59:38.000 We'll see you next time.

01:59:39.000 He supports the people who do good in society, who create the jobs, and punishes the people who don't get out of bed in the morning.

01:59:44.000 So my point is, when someone's being rude, crass, or lazy, or indifferent, when you leave them a good tip, they feel guilt.

01:59:53.000 But I digress.

01:59:54.000 We're going to go to the members.

01:59:55.000 No, they don't.

01:59:55.000 They just think you're a mob.

01:59:56.000 It's like, that white boy just let me shift the book.

01:59:59.000 You were wrong.

01:59:59.000 Stop.

01:59:59.000 No, stop.

02:00:00.000 No.

02:00:00.000 You look them in the eyes.

02:00:01.000 All right, everybody.

02:00:02.000 Smash that like button.

02:00:03.000 Look them in the eyes.

02:00:03.000 And you say, like I did.

02:00:04.000 You can call me on X and Instagram at TimCast.

02:00:07.000 Head over to TimCast.com right now.

02:00:09.000 Hate it.

02:00:09.000 Go to TimCast.com.

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02:00:11.000 Become a member.

02:00:12.000 Because we're going to complain about religion.

02:00:15.000 Oh, I'm going to let you know about tipping.

02:00:19.000 In just a few minutes.

02:00:20.000 Milo, where can they find you?

02:00:20.000 Just a few minutes.

02:00:21.000 Well, in a couple of days, just a couple of short days, you'll be able to order on Amazon and all good bookstores The Wit and Wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes.

02:00:29.000 I couldn't be more thrilled about this stocking stuffer for Christmas.

02:00:33.000 It's been endorsed by everybody you love.

02:00:36.000 And this really, like I said, I don't want to give away too much, but this book is probably my best book.

02:00:45.000 And it's a very exciting thing for me.

02:00:48.000 It's an emotional moment for me to publish it because, of course, this person started as a mentee of mine and then in the end sort of went dark.

02:00:55.000 You'll never know the pain.

02:00:56.000 You'll never know the pain of waking up at 3 a.m.

02:00:58.000 in a cold sweat and realizing you're responsible, not just for Nick Fuentes, but for Lady Marga too.

02:01:04.000 You know, but I feel I've redeemed myself.

02:01:08.000 I feel I've been on a redemptive arc.

02:01:10.000 So look, if you want to find me, look up on Amazon.

02:01:12.000 You'll find this wonderful book in a couple of days.

02:01:14.000 And in the meantime, I have been restored.

02:01:16.000 I've been restored to Twitter.

02:01:18.000 You can find me at Nero on Twitter, which is the Christian N-word.

02:01:21.000 We're reclaiming it.

02:01:22.000 Because, of course, you know, there's a great emperor.

02:01:25.000 All right.

02:01:25.000 I can say the real word on the after show.

02:01:29.000 Nero is the Christian N-word.

02:01:30.000 So I'm reclaiming it.

02:01:31.000 I'm reclaiming it.

02:01:33.000 We got to go.

02:01:34.000 Elad, where can they find you?

02:01:35.000 Elad Eliyahu.

02:01:37.000 I'm a journalist here at TimCast.

02:01:38.000 You can find me across all platforms.

02:01:39.000 The Wit and Wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes.

02:01:41.000 I'm assuming it's a blank book.

02:01:42.000 Good luck with that bestseller.

02:01:44.000 What's up, Shane?

02:01:45.000 What up?

02:01:45.000 Shane Cashman everywhere online.

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02:01:49.000 Thank you for joining us.

02:01:49.000 Thanks for, Milo, for being here.

02:01:51.000 Phil.

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02:02:07.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 21, 2024

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