The anti-Israel protests that have erupted at U.S. universities over the past couple of weeks have expanded, and now more and more cities are starting to see these massive protests emerge. Have we seen anything this big since Occupy Wall Street? Plus, TikTok divests, Elon Musk's battle with Brazil, and some Joe Biden gaffes.
00:00:00.000the the anti-israel protests that have erupted at universities
00:00:19.000over this past couple of weeks have expanded
00:00:23.000And now more universities, more cities are starting to see these massive protests emerge.
00:00:28.000People are not too happy with the current state of Israel.
00:00:32.000But I think what's happening is as more police begin to arrest more protesters and generate more media attention, as Fox News and other cable outlets plaster this story all across television, more people learn about it, and just like Occupy Wall Street, the movement gets bigger.
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00:08:12.000Yeah, hate speech is one of these things that I can understand why people want to say things like that, but it's such a danger of free speech that I think you have to tread really carefully.
00:08:21.000This is also something I'm seeing repeated basically with every older politician.
00:08:27.000This is very much sort of an older stance to say, This is the emergence of anti-Semitism on college campuses, whereas younger, you know, protesters, activists are saying, no, you guys have gone too far.
00:08:42.000So you're really seeing an ideological clash here.
00:08:44.000You know, it's also really disturbing and frightening.
00:08:47.000For so many years on college campuses, it's been totally in vogue to say literally anything that you want about white people.
00:08:54.000And even though in the past I've said on this show that I reject this paradigm, of whiteness.
00:08:59.000I think it's something that's been imposed upon us and that certain ethnicities such as the Irish, Italian, Polish, other Catholic ethnicities weren't considered white.
00:09:06.000The reality is people who look like me are considered white, whether that's a label I appreciate or not.
00:09:11.000And these college students have been perfectly comfortable and entitled to say literally anything they want about us, but now that they're talking about one specific minority, it's, oh my gosh, we have to arrest them and throw them in prison.
00:09:23.000It's funny, and I'm not saying that the rhetoric, yeah, and I'm not saying that hateful rhetoric towards any group is a good thing, but what I am saying is it's really interesting that they were literally able to criticize the majority of this country for years and years and years, and none of them got in any trouble, and then people sit there and go, oh my gosh, they're criticizing other ethnic groups.
00:09:43.000How could this possibly have happened?
00:09:46.000You told them that that was okay for the past several decades, and they got away with it for the past several decades.
00:09:50.000decades. They don't see the distinction that older generations did. Yeah. What I don't
00:09:53.000like about this is the the conflation of Israel criticism with anti-semitism. Yeah, that as
00:09:58.000well. And I think it's also important to point out many of these people are anti-semitic.
00:10:02.000And there was a video out of Yale where a Jewish guy is trying to walk through campus
00:10:05.000and they stop him and they block him for literally no reason. And the reason I've heard people
00:10:09.000say is like, oh, but they're acting shady and weird and they're filming. And I'm like,
00:10:13.000dude, you can't just go up to somebody for that reason.
00:10:15.000Right? Yeah. Also, Yale's gonna be confused when they find out their founder is Jewish.
00:10:19.000Right. Eli Yale. I could be wrong I don't know about that.
00:10:23.000One thing that I've just seen culturally and working with young people is that we've gotten into this habit of feigning victimhood.
00:10:31.000And so what is the difference between really being threatened and having your feelings hurt?
00:10:36.000And what people are seeing is that if they do the feigning victimhood very well and it works, then they just keep doing it over and over again.
00:10:46.000I don't know, you know, it does get into that freedom of speech thing.
00:10:49.000It's like, are people really being, are they scared for their safety or, or do they just not like what other people are saying?
00:10:56.000Like there was a story of the, of the kid that, um, I think he said that somebody was an illegal alien in his English class and the Mexican kid.
00:11:26.000What's going on in Texas, look, if Greg Abbott wants to arrest people because they're trying to occupy a public space, keeping other people out and basically seizing territory to create a Chazz Chop kind of situation, then he needs to say that.
00:11:39.000Because what he tweeted out right now is, you're not allowed to protest and be hateful at the same time.
00:11:55.000I agree with removing these people, however.
00:11:58.000I don't think they should be at Columbia, and it's because they're setting up an occupation.
00:12:02.000Peaceful protests are great, but if they're taking over the common space from other people, and these videos come out where they're like, we're going to link hands and then push them out, okay, you're shut down.
00:12:12.000Now you're occupying territory and taking it away from the people who were there first.
00:12:18.000And that's wrong, and that shouldn't happen.
00:12:20.000I think it was from Harvard of people rushing onto the green to start setting up an encampment.
00:12:24.000I mean, it is an intentional, growing position, right?
00:12:29.000This is something that, you know, I think you're probably the best one to talk about this with Occupy Wall Street, but it is something they want to set up an effectively satellite network at college campuses across the U.S., starting predominantly in the Northeast, where a lot of the college already lean towards a, like, leftist, progressive worldview.
00:12:46.000Well, what is dangerous too is, and I saw this when the whole BLM thing was happening, I was managing all these different TikTok houses and I was totally unaware of politics.
00:12:54.000And the kids were like, this is cool to go and protest BLM stuff.
00:12:58.000And they're like, we want to put a banner outside.
00:13:01.000I mean, if that's the popular thing, and what happens is if that becomes the popular thing to be anti-Semitic, just because people are getting clout or something by, by being that way, you were saying that you were getting called a Zionist.
00:13:15.000I mean, I heard a podcast where there was, like, a Jewish influencer saying that being a Zionist isn't even, like, bad, or, you know, so I don't even know what it is.
00:13:23.000I just know it's unpopular and I don't want to be called that.
00:13:26.000So, Zionist is basically, like, if you're anti-Israel, it's white supremacy, it's racist, it's a catch-all term for people who are not aligned with my worldview.
00:13:36.000That's what it's turned into, right, at least now.
00:13:39.000Let's say you're like an unrepentant white supremacist marching around in Klan robes.
00:13:43.000They go, haha, you're a white supremacist, and the guy goes, okay.
00:13:46.000Let's say you're like a moderate liberal or classical liberal or right-leaning individual and you don't like racism, and so you say things like, I believe in meritocracy.
00:13:54.000They go, you're a racist white supremacist!
00:13:57.000The Zionist thing There's literal Zionism, where someone believes in the creation of a Jewish state in Israel and they want to have the Holy Land and all of that stuff.
00:14:06.000And then there's varying degrees of how people describe it.
00:14:08.000And that doesn't have a negative connotation, correct?
00:14:30.000Because in the mind of many of these people, Israel being a fabrication created by, you know, with the whatever, however they want to describe the creation of Israel.
00:14:41.000Anyone who acknowledges that it does exist is also a Zionist.
00:14:45.000And I'm like, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't.
00:15:07.000I mean, I watch you guys and I try to get the information, but it's like, unless you're deep in this, all you see on TikTok, I saw it, you know, back, I think it was 2020, that every, if you, if you like Trump, or if you say you like Trump, then you're a terrible person.
00:15:21.000And so everybody just wants to fit in.
00:15:24.000I mean, young people, you want to fit into the group.
00:15:26.000So if something sounds bad, and then you're just going to go with the flow.
00:15:30.000And I think that could be dangerous as well.
00:15:33.000I would say all of these students, they have no idea what they're protesting.
00:15:38.000But there's an interesting question around this too because with, you know, Greg Abbott basically tweeting that hate speech will get you arrested, which is hilarious, there's a question of if these people are saying they are Hamas, Are they saying they're a terrorist organization?
00:16:47.000The precedent being that people could literally swear allegiance to a terror organization, go around committing mass crimes, and then those who are only involved slightly or aren't actively involved in killing but are blockading things, we let them go?
00:17:03.000No, you're part of a terror organization.
00:18:28.000It's like the right has been demanding free speech, but this was a signal to, I guess, like moderate liberals or whatever?
00:18:36.000Well, I think there's a fear of being considered too soft on people who are perceived to be anti-Semitic and therefore becoming anti-Semitic yourself, right?
00:18:42.000Like, they are trying to fall correctly on the side of this issue when your point is completely valid.
00:18:48.000Like, they can just say this isn't acceptable for this institution, for whatever else.
00:18:53.000They don't have to make it as political as they're making it.
00:18:55.000In fact, I think they're almost making it worse by saying... Yes, it adds more fuel to the fire.
00:19:06.000Conservatives and conservative politicians are fumbling by talking about hate speech, by talking about anti-semitism, etc.
00:19:11.000I mean, there is an obvious strategic win here for conservatives that actually involves talking about our own country instead of other countries.
00:19:17.000When someone comes in here and says that they are Hamas, you go, okay, there are people in the United States of America saying that they're Hamas, okay?
00:19:25.000Like, if we're talking about Affairs in foreign countries where horrific acts of violence are occurring.
00:19:31.000Maybe, maybe that can be for us motivation to figure out who's in our country, who's crossing our borders, what's going on here.
00:19:42.000We have to be like extremely intensely focused on what's happening in the Middle East.
00:19:46.000We shouldn't be focusing on what's happening at the border.
00:19:49.000I mean, you know, I think the rights process is really important.
00:19:52.000Like I said the other night, I think that it would be really cool if the American youth rallied for a border wall or rallied for something that would impact domestically, that would help people, that they are going to live beside.
00:20:04.000But instead, this foreign war is basically dominating our news cycle.
00:20:10.000I think it's important that we analyze what's going on.
00:20:12.000On the other hand, it is It is interesting to me that the youth at the most elite institutions in America decided this was the issue that they were willing to do anything for.
00:20:22.000I mean, I was watching interviews with protesters at Columbia today and, you know, their graduation is coming up.
00:20:27.000The schools announced they're going to go fully remote for the rest of the semester or offer online classes.
00:20:35.000They were saying, like, if the university says you can't get your diploma if you're participating in this, would you go without your diploma?
00:20:41.000And she was like, well, this cause is, I'd have to think about it, but this cause is so much bigger than, you know, my diploma.
00:20:49.000And you want to be like, and this girl is wearing sunglasses, she's covered, like, you can't identify, I mean, I couldn't identify her, maybe someone on campus could, but there is this, there's a narrative that the people involved in this are having that this is like their big contribution to the world, to It's going to get way bigger.
00:21:04.000During Occupy Wall Street, I'll tell you what happened.
00:21:06.000there is a level of ideological devoutness that they might be willing to adhere to, which
00:21:13.000it makes it concerning that it's spreading throughout the US and seems to be getting
00:22:02.000And then during a march, Tony Bologna, they called him, Anthony Bologna, Walked up to four girls who were not in the march and were standing on the sidewalk yelling and sprayed them in the face for no reason.
00:23:27.000New York allows it, and then people start posting videos, it builds attention, then other places start doing it.
00:23:34.000When the cops come in, that's what they're hoping for, so that they can create the propaganda to be like, look, look, help, we're being attacked, oh, the cops are after us.
00:23:45.000Greg Abbott just did them the biggest favor imaginable by saying anti-Semitism will not be tolerated, because now what's going to happen is conservatives are going to say, oh, come on.
00:23:55.000You can't conflate criticizing a country with being anti-semitic, and then you're going to get the left being like, look at this, you see how they're lying.
00:24:02.000Then you're going to get, you know, the right anti-Israel side, and they're all going to be unified against this, and they're going to point the finger at Greg Abbott.
00:24:12.000He is giving them the propaganda they need to rally more people.
00:24:15.000Yeah, I think you're right, and this is very difficult for either side to handle strategically, because this is not an issue that really breaks down along party lines the way that issues we tend to see mass protests about, too.
00:24:26.000So, for example, back in 2020, when you had the BLM riots happening, the reality is basically all of the Democratic Party, anti-establishment and pro-establishment, was totally in favor of that movement.
00:24:36.000When it comes to the Israel-Palestine conflict, that breaks down not so much along party lines, but along establishment versus anti-establishment lines.
00:24:44.000And so Joe Biden can't really say a whole lot about this without alienating a large fraction of his voter base.
00:24:51.000And so if this does end up becoming violent, there's a question of whether law and order is going to be enforced or whether they're not allowed to be violent.
00:25:04.000Because we know if the Democratic Party sided with them or the Democratic Party in its totality sided with them, they would literally be able to do whatever they wanted.
00:25:12.000But we don't know that that's the case here.
00:25:14.000Let me jump to the story from the post-millennial.
00:25:18.000Mike Johnson threatens to withhold federal funds from Columbia U over Gaza camp while protesters scream, free Palestine.
00:25:27.000If these campuses cannot get control of this problem, they do not deserve taxpayer dollars.
00:25:35.000It took Israel to get them to finally threaten to pull funding from corrupt universities that are in violation of the Civil Rights Act in so many ways, from racist policies and the DEI stuff to gender, sports, and issues.
00:25:52.000But now that they protest Israel, Mike Johnson personally shows up and says, we're going to pull your funding.
00:26:08.000How often is America, I mean, I won't even ask how often, I will just state as a fact, it is Required to trash the United States of America in order to have any kind of social life on a college campus, anywhere in this country, in order to maintain your position as a faculty member.
00:26:21.000You have to, by default, to function in one of these institutions, hate the United States of America and say that you hate the United States of America.
00:26:27.000And now that there are people saying that they hate Israel, we're going to talk about pulling funding?
00:26:31.000These people have said they hate America for decades!
00:27:52.000And now their foreign policy is being risked.
00:27:55.000I don't care about their foreign policy.
00:27:57.000Israel's a country that can defend itself.
00:27:58.000I agree with that, but I don't see why we're paying for it.
00:28:00.000So if these people want to have a peaceful protest, I can criticize them when they're nasty and they're mean to Jewish people when they are, and that's fine.
00:28:07.000But Mike Johnson to come out now and be like, we're gonna pull your funding.
00:28:27.000I have a question, because I went to San Diego State.
00:28:30.000I feel like this is happening at all the Ivy League schools.
00:28:33.000Do you guys think that there's some type of, like, positioning?
00:28:36.000Like, if you go to an Ivy League school, you have to have, like, a position on this in order to I think Ivy League universities and a lot of small liberal arts institutions in the Northeast specifically prioritize recruiting students who had a leftist or progressive worldview and they also recruited and encouraged faculty that had a progressive leftist worldview.
00:29:07.000You know, anecdotally, I went to SMU in Dallas, in Texas, and I did have some conservative professors.
00:29:38.000This makes us look like we are this loving, welcoming institution.
00:29:41.000We are leaning towards the left ideology that not only do our faculty have, but now we're encouraging it in our administrators.
00:29:47.000And so it just became this echo chamber that did not expect.
00:29:51.000Right, and it's like if a pebble hits your windshield and it shatters, right?
00:29:55.000They didn't realize that there was any way for this to fall back on them in a way that was negative because they don't recognize that there are divisions within their own ideological culture.
00:30:03.000And I think what you were saying about the BLM thing in 2020 being popular, like I remember Logan Paul jumped on it and all these influencers jumped on it because it was like, well, what's so bad about we just don't support racism and that's okay.
00:30:16.000You know, there was a girl that I spoke to.
00:30:20.000She, I think it was 2017 or 2018, when the whole BLM thing was pretty big, she wrote a book and it was on the New York Times bestseller list, but it knocked down the number one book, which is like a CRT book, a BLM book.
00:30:34.000And they took her off the New York Times, said she did shady practices.
00:30:39.000She's the only person to ever be taken off the New York Times bestseller list.
00:30:48.000I think Abigail Schreier that wrote the book about the trans stuff that they won't put on the New York Times bestseller list.
00:30:56.000Anyway, my point is that, you know, that that was everybody went after her because it was like, well, you must be racist because you've knocked off the CRT BLM book.
00:31:06.000But she didn't do any of that, you know, so... Right.
00:31:09.000But it was so much easier for people to jump on that trend.
00:31:11.000And the New York Times bestseller list is biased anyways, I could be wrong, but it's not, like, generated by... 100%, they play all sorts of games.
00:31:16.000Yeah, it's not like they, like, calculate the sales and say, oh, you've jumped, like... And she explained it to me, and... In fact... Oh, no, I just wanted to say that the way the New York Times leaves its bestsellers leaves me speechless.
00:31:27.000By Michael Knowles, because his book was a bestseller, and then they didn't put it on the list.
00:31:32.000I'm not sure if they ever ended up doing that, or if that was ever remedied, but, yeah, they play all sorts of games.
00:31:37.000Well, and they, if you, you're not supposed to buy your own books, basically, and so if they think that you did, like, let's say they thought you were having a conference and you bought, you know, a bunch of books to give away, all they do is they place a little dagger next to your name, and it basically, most people don't even know what that means.
00:31:51.000But they actually took Lani off the list, and she had like 800 articles written about her, how she's this terrible person, and she actually did it the right way.
00:32:00.000She went to like Comic-Cons and stuff, and they pre-sold all the books, so she didn't do it the shady way.
00:32:08.000But this is how people positioned, right?
00:32:10.000It was like, well, I don't want to be racist, so I'm gonna support BLM, and that was okay, but this issue is a little bit different, because like you said, it's You're going to piss somebody off.
00:32:19.000Right. It's it's it stops being I mean, there are conservatives who are split on this issue.
00:32:24.000There's diversity in thought on the right as well. But I don't think anyone is sort of,
00:32:29.000especially in progressive academia, expected there to be a difference because
00:32:33.000they are out of sync with it's an age thing, in my opinion.
00:32:36.000I think the older, a lot of older Democrats or people who identify as Democrat, they don't realize what's going on in these schools and they don't understand what the youth, how the youth has shifted on this issue.
00:32:47.000And young people are removed from maybe concerns about antisemitism that plagues people of older generations.
00:32:54.000And so they experience this conflict very differently.
00:32:57.000The information they have about it is very different.
00:33:01.000And so it's just really interesting to me that, you know, you were asking, like, why is this happening in the Ivy League?
00:33:06.000And I think it's because the Ivy League believes they set the tone for everything that happens in America, and it's just an example of this old institutional elitism that is actually a huge part of the Democratic Party.
00:33:36.000But I think younger people, at the very least, recognize that you can criticize a country's foreign policy without hating that country, because that's basically what everyone has been doing in their lives with respect to American foreign policy for the past 20 years or so.
00:33:51.000And so, you know, in the same way that I can love America and say I don't love what we're doing overseas, anyone is equally entitled to say, okay, I don't necessarily dislike Israel, but I don't love their foreign policy or what they're doing.
00:34:05.000And so, yeah, I think you're totally correct.
00:34:12.000And also on top of that, I'll add this, people recognize there's like a third layer of not only can you criticize a country's foreign policy without disliking that country, but even if you do dislike that country, that does not mean that you dislike the dominant ethnic group within that country and harbor some kind of racial hatred towards them.
00:34:31.000What about, like, the distrust in the media, too?
00:35:13.000Then there's other people that talk about politics and about these stories,
00:35:16.000and they're doing it just straight for ego.
00:35:18.000This is trending, so I'm gonna talk about it.
00:35:21.000But the problem is people don't have enough information of like who are the good and bad actors out there.
00:35:26.000It's just starting to get really difficult to figure out.
00:35:29.000Do you think more influencers are moving into the news sphere to try and like capitalize on a election cycle or something like that?
00:35:36.000Well, I'll tell you what, there's been a couple articles I read that conservative influencers are becoming more popular with brands, like brands are actually willing to work with conservative influencers.
00:35:47.000And I think that has to do with the fact that, you know, it's not totally a, you know, career,
00:35:54.000you know, suicide basically to talk about Trump anymore or talk about being a conservative.
00:35:59.000There's like the full sun podcast, people like that.
00:36:33.000Uh, adult affluent people that are following you and because it's not so taboo to be conservative, I think we're getting there, uh, that obviously brands want to advertise with those people.
00:36:45.000And so because of that, people are like, well, let's, you know, jump on the conservative.
00:37:31.000And this image, I think, gets into the heart of what we're seeing here and why they're doing what they're doing.
00:37:40.000Ali London says, Palestinian activist appears to realize she has made a big mistake as she verges close to tears as Texas police handcuff her.
00:37:48.000Take a look at this young college student.
00:38:25.000Well, it's because the police must be bad guys, right?
00:38:28.000With that fear and anger, when she gets out of jail, and she will, overnight, and it'll be a slap on the wrist, they will then go to her, and not only will they say, see?
00:38:52.000They will start to show her all of the posts from people on the right insulting her and laughing at her for being scared and crying, acting as though she had any idea what was going on.
00:39:02.000And they'll say, see, look how evil the right is.
00:39:05.000They're making fun of you while you were doing the right thing.
00:39:11.000So when they're storming campus, when you look at the comparison between the Summer of Love, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, and the anti-Israel stuff, and you're like, wow, it sure is very similar, it's all just cult building.
00:39:21.000There's no moral issue they care about.
00:39:24.000There's a funny meme I saw where it's, you know the meme of the military guy putting his arms out, protecting the kid?
00:39:29.000It's the military guy going like this, and it's like, protesters, and then the kid in the bed says, the Middle East and the bombs and the knives are still falling on the kid because the guy's nowhere near the kid.
00:41:02.000Yeah, well, I remember with Kyle Rittenhouse, like, you know, that happened about like, I don't know, a year or two after I got like canceled in the New York Times.
00:41:11.000And then I just started watching that though.
00:41:15.000And it's like, that's kind of what got me to change my beliefs and be like, this is kind of more important to be.
00:41:22.000I guess leaning on the right because I saw how they twisted that story and a lot of people probably went the other way right when they first saw all the news about the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff and how he he killed these people that were peacefully protesting or I don't know you know what the whole narrative was but I think a lot of people probably got on the other side similarly.
00:41:42.000There were influencers that, you know, I knew of because of non-political, you know, like lifestyle or whatever content, who when the Kyle Brittenhouse verdict came out, they were like, nobody talked to me about this.
00:41:51.000He killed innocent black people and this and that, which is like not true.
00:42:00.000Nobody can twist the narrative and you could watch the lawyers discussing it.
00:42:04.000There were people who had an emotional reaction to the story and then closed their ears to any of the details, right?
00:42:08.000They already knew how they We're going to feel about it because of a false narrative.
00:42:13.000It's hard to comment on this picture because, you know, I don't know the video or what else is going on there, but I do think that there are people who will say, like, this just makes me want to double down more.
00:42:23.000Like, I will just become even more disenfranchised and it will drive a certain level of, like, well, I got arrested at this protest so now I should do something even bigger because, you know, this confirms my suspicion that the cops are bad and This is a known tactic for anybody who's been to the, what do they call them, excuse me, direct action meetings.
00:42:45.000They have described in the past as like three different tiers.
00:42:49.000The direct action activists will meet in secret and it'll be like five or six people that are organizing the protest and they intentionally will be like, you know, no one can know what we talk about, don't bring your phone.
00:43:02.000What they want is They're the instigators.
00:43:05.000Well, the organizers and the instigators.
00:43:07.000They want as many young, dumb college kids to form the mass of the protest.
00:43:15.000Then they have people who directly instigate, and then they're the ones who are orchestrating everything behind the scenes.
00:43:20.000The goal being, their friends, who are given the instructions, will throw things at cops, They'll wait for the normies, who are like, yay, I'm marching, to be in a situation where the cops are agitated.
00:43:33.000They will then walk into the middle of the crowd, crouch down, and throw a water bottle high up in the air so that it lands on a cop.
00:43:39.000The cops then say, okay, illegal assembly, disperse or you're under arrest.
00:43:44.000And then these dumb college kids who have no idea what's going on find themselves being shoved, being hit.
00:44:12.000Then when these young people like freaking out and crying and mostly younger women.
00:44:17.000They're hugging them and saying, take my number, call me if you need anything, you should totally hang out with us, we're gonna make sure you're okay, now we'll sing songs.
00:44:42.000I don't know why she's being arrested.
00:44:43.000It is easy to manipulate people that don't have the experience or the background to also see how this is going to affect them in the future.
00:44:50.000Like when you're young, you think that you're the best, that nothing could happen to you.
00:45:08.000And I think it's in part because activism became sort of glamorized, especially over the last couple years.
00:45:14.000There was a level of being able to say, like, I went out and I think about what was the Women's March after Trump was inaugurated, and they were like, I can't tell you how many girls I knew were like, and this is my, we stayed up all night making posters, like, check it out.
00:45:28.000It became sort of this trendy thing to do, but there are very serious consequences to going to protests, especially when you don't actually know everyone who's involved in this and what their intentions are.
00:45:38.000And that's one of the problems with it happening on a university campus.
00:45:41.000I mean, you know, if you're in college, you're probably over 18, you're an adult, so you're responsible for your actions.
00:45:46.000It is interesting that generally we are all acknowledging that this is something they're doing because it's like, oh, well, everyone else I know is going to this thing.
00:45:54.000I don't know how many of them are actually super rabidly dedicated to the cause.
00:45:58.000Yeah, do you guys, have you, is there a cause that has ever made you want to go protest or want in your lifetime?
00:46:25.000I mean, like I said, I'm sort of new into even caring, which is, you know, I'm not proud of that, but at least now I'm being awakened.
00:46:34.000You know, we were talking about the red pill term.
00:46:37.000I think it's taken a different meaning now, but in terms of just kind of being awakened to how things really work.
00:46:45.000It's partially because of what happened to me, and I'm like, oh, this is how the New York Times operates, this is how America operates.
00:46:50.000I mean, when I was younger, my cousin, she lives in Mexico, she said, it's so cool that you live in America because you're able to be an entrepreneur and start a business.
00:47:01.000And she's like, you know, in Mexico, It's so corrupt and people, if you mess with somebody that has power or if you start a business and it's successful and knocks out somebody big, they'll just literally burn your business down, you know.
00:47:17.000They'll actually burn it down or whatever.
00:47:19.000And so, but so when I lived in America, I'm thinking like, oh, this doesn't happen in America.
00:47:23.000But now I'm starting to see I mean, I think things don't happen in America, quote-unquote, because people are – we're supposed to theoretically have laws in a culture that prevent these things, but, you know, if you have – There's still corruption, though, is what I'm saying.
00:47:38.000Yeah, and I think corruption becomes more rampant as all parts of culture fall apart, right?
00:47:43.000Like, if you don't have a strong – if you don't have a strong share of ethics and morals, People's behavior becomes more and more self-serving and corrupt on every level, both in terms of government or business or anything else.
00:47:57.000And it's why when I, you know, the image of the girl who's getting arrested, like there is probably a level where even if she did something terrible at this thing, she feels justified in what she's doing.
00:48:08.000And there is a level where people who are involved have a different sense of right and wrong because they feel justified in their actions.
00:48:14.000We're going to jump to the next story because I'm going to disagree with you on this one.
00:49:17.000It is the cause to latch onto and bored college kids who are part of a cult come out and do this.
00:49:24.000That being said, there are legitimate criticisms of Israel that people have with how they've been handling the war, with whether they're going to go into Rafah or not.
00:49:32.000With the civilian deaths, I think, the total deaths have been reported.
00:49:38.000By numerous agencies, and I don't know how legit these numbers are, 34,000, and they lump civilians and militants in together, so I think one estimate is around 23,000 or so civilian deaths.
00:49:50.000There's a lot of things you can be upset about, and you're allowed to be.
00:49:55.000Those are okay, and there are people there who are.
00:49:57.000But most of the people there, I would be willing to bet, have no idea what they're there for.
00:50:02.000But, like, this reminds me of, like, remember those Jimmy Kimmel men on the street?
00:50:06.000They would ask you something like, who's the vice president?
00:50:09.000But the people like that will never make fun of this because it's so polarizing.
00:50:14.000It's like it will never be a thing where it should be kind of made fun of that you, if you go protest something that you don't even know about, that that's ridiculous.
00:50:24.000And there are – I mean, I watched this interview with a protester at Columbia and she's like, we want the school to divest from Israel and anything they do that has to do with Israel.
00:50:32.000And there's a level where maybe they can't totally articulate because the next thing she says is like, and then we want them to divest into something else, something better.
00:50:40.000And she can't really say what that is.
00:50:43.000Again, it's sort of this thing about youth.
00:51:34.000And I immediately turned the camera and I was like, hey, what were you chanting?
00:51:37.000And he's like, oh, I'm chanting with the group.
00:51:38.000And I was like, yeah, what did you say?
00:51:39.000And he goes, oh, I just, you know, I don't know.
00:51:42.000He's marching with the group, trying to sound out what they're saying with having no idea what it was.
00:51:47.000The dude did not know he was chanting a Marxist slogan.
00:51:50.000Because many of these people, you're on a march, and you're told the purpose of it is the big banks got bailed out and they screwed over the working class.
00:51:59.000And these young people are like, wow, yeah, that's bad.
00:52:05.000They just start chanting these things, get you to chant them, you have no idea what's going on.
00:52:09.000Once again you can see it's the same old same old.
00:52:12.000Do you think it has anything maybe to do with too like the time that we live in that everybody's so hyper online people are so disconnected from like a community of feeling like they belong and so maybe these like protests is like oh I get to like be around people and interact and and like a sense of community maybe?
00:52:38.000And what we're seeing here, and what you saw at Occupy, it's actually pretty normal historically.
00:52:43.000We look at the American Revolution, or even something like the Russian Revolution, and you see those and you think, oh well, I guess in Russia everyone who was revolting just wanted communism, and in the American colonies everyone revolting just wanted a constitutional democracy.
00:53:02.000People in both circumstances were revolting because they weren't happy with present circumstances.
00:53:06.000It just happened that certain factions are more organized and were able to use people's distaste with the current system for their own motivation.
00:53:18.000And there's a reason I use two different examples, and it's because sometimes it's really bad and sometimes it's really good, but the reality is when a large group of people get together because they have agreements, they almost never agree on a solution.
00:53:30.000And it tends to be a small, organized minority that proposes and implements a solution.
00:53:40.000But every once in a while, in history, we have examples of the people who rise to the top actually having good ideas.
00:53:46.000So what do you guys think happens with these protests?
00:53:48.000Like, you know, you mentioned, we talked about this earlier, Columbia's semester is about to end, you know, theoretically, student populations actually disperse from the campuses, they won't have the same critical mass that they do right now.
00:53:58.000Like, does this movement just sort of last through the summer?
00:54:01.000Or is it going to be the next couple weeks really intense, and then go away?
00:54:06.000Well, I think, what did Columbia has given them an extended deadline saying they're allowed to stay?
00:54:12.000Yeah, they were initially they broke down part of the camp and then they're sort of going back and forth negotiating.
00:54:16.000Yeah, saying they're not going to call National Guard and they're not going to call NYPD to clear the Gaza camp.
00:55:10.000That being said, I don't see Columbia Deciding to eliminate their customer base.
00:55:19.000If they, like, this is, this is, it's not so much like, you know, with Occupy Wall Street or BLM, you have protesters in an area with an autonomous zone or something.
00:55:28.000They have to make a decision about whether or not they want the political backlash, whether or not it's going to escalate the protests, who knows?
00:55:33.000These are Columbia's paying customers.
00:55:36.000Do you kick them out and then lose paying customers?
00:55:40.000What do you think about Bill Ackman and the stuff that he, like, I guess they were like exposing certain students that were on a list or something or that had put their names on a list.
00:56:22.000I guess it comes down to what is the accountability for the people that are doing this.
00:56:26.000If there's no accountability, or if they're actually doing something bad, then nothing will happen.
00:56:32.000Or if people actually went BLM, they were like burning things down and all that kind of stuff, and there was still no accountability for that.
00:56:43.000First of all, it's Columbia, so I'm kind of like, Columbia can do what Columbia wants.
00:56:47.000If people who go to the school are being discriminated against, and it's overt discrimination, then I think we've got a civil rights violation.
00:56:53.000And then that actually becomes a matter which the public gets involved in.
00:56:57.000But if Columbia has private grounds where you can pay to go to Columbia and then they decide to do what they want, I will just laugh.
00:57:04.000I have no sympathy for the people who fomented this.
00:57:06.000You know, you've got that one professor, that Jewish professor, and I'm just like, Look, man, y'all are part of these institutions that have pushed this ideology while we've been screaming, stop pushing this ideology, and now they're like, oh no, I've caught fire with the thing I've been creating.
00:57:25.000Yeah, it's again, I think these institutions are really seeing the fruits of their labor, so to speak, right?
00:57:33.000They specifically wanted and encouraged left-wing progressive, even at times radical, ideology in faculty, students, and staff.
00:57:41.000And at a certain point, they are now facing the product of their own making.
00:57:47.000I think one of the Things that I'm curious about.
00:57:50.000And again, for me, it's really interesting that all the semesters are coming to an end and what will this turn into?
00:57:56.000Because I think a lot of... I wouldn't be surprised if the conversation behind closed doors among administrators is, we just kind of have to wait this out until they move out for the summer.
00:58:04.000Unless the administrators are like, it's really good this is happening.
00:58:08.000Let's not let anyone realize how much we hate Israel, too.
00:58:10.000I think there are... I mean, like, there are professors that have come out in support of these protests.
00:58:17.000And for me, because I think the university system is really off base of what traditional universities should be, it's sort of good to have them have to re-examine their priorities and their own standards for one another.
00:58:30.000I just don't know that people who have created and cultivated progressive academia have ever considered the fact that they would eat themselves one day.
00:59:45.000So the reason why TikTok is facing a ban is because of Israel.
00:59:49.000It's because a couple years ago, Donald Trump wanted to ban TikTok because it's pushing far left ideology and things like this.
00:59:56.000But the argument was, oh, it's stealing your data, which I mean, it's taking your data and it's giving it to the Chinese Communist Party in essence, I suppose.
01:00:05.000And the Democrats were like, no, no, don't.
01:00:38.000Large donors who are Jewish and pro-Israel, so even evangelicals, were calling TikTok, I'm sorry, were calling Democrats not TikTok, and saying, why are you allowing this app to indoctrinate young people in this way?
01:01:21.000It allegedly wasn't even due to my content.
01:01:23.000They apparently thought I was someone impersonating myself or something.
01:01:26.000I offered to do whatever verification they needed so they could verify that I indeed myself, but they refused and they said the decision was final.
01:01:32.000Pretty sure they just look for any excuse to ban people that aren't leftists, but at the end of the day, it's looking like I'll get the last laugh.
01:01:39.000If they didn't ban me, maybe I'd join others in calling for TikTok not to get banned, but they want to engage in some of the worst censorship of any platform, and then cry about the government doing the same to them.
01:01:52.000Now, Lisa Elizabeth, Lisa Reynolds, who actually works here, says, this might be a low IQ post laughing emoji, but- But thanks 1n0 on Lisa.
01:01:59.000But I'll stress, TimCast IRL was banned, and it was because in one segment we were discussing data that showed women in the workplace have the highest rates of depression for all female demographics.
01:02:15.000So like single mothers, married with children, and married with children in the workplace, not working.
01:02:21.000Women who are at work had higher rates of depression compared to all other groups, in any capacity.
01:02:55.000And what they're doing is, 60% is leftist and 40% is conservative.
01:03:00.000That way conservatives feel like they're still here, but they're intentionally suppressing the right and making sure that the left gets front and center stage so that young people lose their mind and cause themselves harm.
01:03:13.000And although it's bad that they've got warrantless wiretapping on us, that shouldn't be allowed either.
01:03:18.000I'd rather have the United States government spying on me than the Chinese government, because at the very least I can file FOIA requests, I can file lawsuits.
01:03:26.000It's extremely difficult to go up against the U.S.
01:03:27.000government and their surveillance apparatus, but it's impossible to go up against China.
01:03:50.000Also, I just want to mention one thing.
01:03:52.000I do think it's hilarious that they have the option to sell to American interests or to an American company as if that would ever do anything to eliminate the Chinese influence.
01:04:02.000I mean, so much of corporate America is at the beck and call of the CCP.
01:04:50.000China doesn't allow the US to run companies in its country.
01:04:54.000Why would we allow China to have ownership control or a stake or a board seat in any capacity that has such a massive influence on our economy, let alone the minds of our young people?
01:05:18.000The Chinese government is not in any way a fan of the United States of America, and we know that they understand the way we think way better than we understand the way that they think.
01:05:36.000China has done things like stood in solidarity with George Floyd and the BLM riots and called the American system racist, even though, like, in order to sell Star Wars films in China, Disney has to decrease the size of black actors and their posters, right?
01:05:50.000China's a very racist country, but they also know that racism is something that really tugs at the heartstrings of Americans and that Americans care about.
01:06:00.000The fact that they know how to manipulate us so well, and They're running this service, this social media service, that millions of Americans are using.
01:06:13.000And I think, again, it's an argument for banning it to, say, 174 million Americans, whatever the numbers are using it.
01:06:19.000There's a sort of salty post on Axios right now pointing out that the Biden administration, or the Biden re-election campaign, is continuing to be active on TikTok, even though he just signed this bill.
01:06:30.000It's one of these things that, you know, We talked about Palestine a little bit and there's a division between young left-leaning or progressive voters and older left voters, but I almost wonder if being the president that banned TikTok is going to be just another way that Biden loses the youth vote right now.
01:06:48.000I am not necessarily saying that he shouldn't have signed it or that the TikTok ban is bad, I just think that like It is surprising to me that Joe Biden who's trying to be like the cool hip grandpa is now taking away TikTok from these people he's trying to court during an election year.
01:07:02.000I'm a little torn because I've obviously I basically in 2019 it was when Musical.ly turned into TikTok.
01:07:11.000It's that's when I was representing the biggest tiktokers in the world.
01:07:15.000I represented Charlie D'Amelio, Addison Rae, Charlie, I think, and her sister make $17 million a year.
01:07:23.000And they were just called, you know, high school kids that basically blew up overnight.
01:07:28.000But to see how quickly tiktok has become drunk with power, it seems like I remember in 2019, they were just so happy if I referred them a celebrity that would get on and they would verify just about anybody. And now you're seeing that they,
01:07:46.000and over the years I've seen this, that they are, they do like events for only black creators.
01:07:50.000They do events for only LGBTQ and you know, it's, it's very woke in the sense of that. And then even in the
01:07:58.000beginning, there was like in 2019, there was people I represented that,
01:08:03.000you know, if they, if they danced in a bikini, they,
01:08:05.000they would get banned or they would get you weren't allowed to go live for a
01:08:09.000couple of weeks. And so what happens is like, people start to follow the rules, right? You fall in line.
01:08:13.000Okay, well, I guess I can't post with my shirt off or, you know, with,
01:08:16.000even if you're a guy, so they, they fall in line, but then they also see, okay,
01:08:21.000well, you know, conservatives can't get verified on their.
01:08:25.000Like Joe Pags, he's a big time radio host.
01:08:28.000He has tons of followers and tons of views.
01:08:30.000And he's like, I can't get verified on TikTok for whatever reason.
01:08:33.000And then Evie magazine, Brittany was messaging me because I used to have an in over there.
01:08:38.000Now they don't really pick up my call as much, but I do.
01:08:43.000Evie asked me for help because they were they're not able to advertise their I guess it's like anti birth control program or I don't know if it's I don't know what it is.
01:08:55.000They were selling something that was doing well on TikTok.
01:08:57.000And now they got kicked off of the of the shop.
01:09:00.000And I think it's because like either the Washington Post or whoever called in and was like, why is this on TikTok?
01:09:50.000He invested in like Facebook, Uber, Airbnb, Smart guy talking to all the people at the top and, you know, he's very much against the TikTok ban.
01:10:42.000The Supreme Court might even strike this down and say, you can't do this, which is kind of troublesome in essence.
01:10:49.000I mean, China is an adversary of the United States.
01:10:52.000It's tough, I get it, but we can't allow China to have a foothold in our economy this strong, to the point where people would sue the government.
01:11:09.000government says, okay, this is a problem for us, so we're going to shut it down, and the American people sue the American government to keep China in control of this economic machine.
01:11:18.000Okay, you have to ask the question, too.
01:11:19.000Let's say this goes to the Supreme Court, and it's argued that this is some kind of First Amendment violation.
01:11:25.000Does anyone in their right mind actually think the reason the Founders penned the First Amendment was so that foreign powers could collect sensitive data on American citizens?
01:11:36.000It's sending kids videos of creepy, let's just degenerate behavior, things that will lead them to self-harm, will increase... I don't think it's good.
01:11:51.000However, I do think that should this go through, the end result is, let's say TikTok says, no, we will not divest, you know, ByteDance will not divest, we will not sell.
01:12:53.000Well, I think that what makes TikTok so valuable and addictive is really the algorithm that they set up from the very beginning where anybody can basically blow up overnight.
01:13:05.000And I mean, I saw it happen with a lot of people I represented.
01:13:08.000I mean, you had somebody that had 10,000 followers and then Two months later, they had 10 million.
01:13:13.000And so I think what's happening too is even though a lot of the different platforms have tried to copy TikTok and the algorithm, it's like you saw it with Twitter, like to unwind all the code and to like build in what you want.
01:13:30.000It's complex and even I think Chamath and David Sachs were talking about if it does divest like if nobody's gonna go through every line of code and like make sure that there's no like Easter eggs that the Chinese are still in control of or whatever so Yeah, but as far as it being an app that is probably damaging to young people and the way that their brains are forming and all that, 100%.
01:14:00.000But is that something that the government controls or, you know, that we vote on as Americans?
01:15:06.000So... The funny thing is, if someone made a social media app right now and just gave everyone fake followers, they'd all be like, oh, TikTok's dumb.
01:15:13.000Like, how do you even verify any of those numbers on any of these social media platforms?
01:15:18.000That's what we would all ask when TikTok started.
01:15:23.000So 10 years ago, I'm at a meeting with a big, major cable channel network, And we're talking about YouTube versus Facebook, and I said, well, YouTube's obviously it.
01:15:53.000And they were like, Facebook video is it.
01:15:55.000And there was a big scandal where apparently Facebook got sued or something because the video views that advertisers were paying for were, like, not actual.
01:16:04.000So, uh, you know, I'm not gonna accuse TikTok of anything.
01:16:12.000Sure, and people signed up, and then all of a sudden it was like, well, I'm on TikTok, KitKat, and Instagram, and I have 10 million followers on KitKat.
01:16:22.000If you just gave someone 10 million followers, nobody would believe it.
01:16:25.000Back during the MySpace era, it was really funny to see these bands that were like a random guy, and he had 4 billion plays on his music, and it's just like, dude, you went too far.
01:16:34.000You want to give yourself like 10,000 so it looks like you're an up-and-coming band and then you get the opening act on a tour or something.
01:16:42.000But if you put multi-platinum like, I guess he's going to the club to pick up girls or something.
01:18:06.000Well, isn't it funny that when social media was used to incite the Arab Spring, you had political leaders like Obama just praising social media platforms as these uncensored paradises and basically suggesting that this is the way for the future and as soon as those same platforms are used.
01:18:27.000I'm not talking about TikTok here, but Twitter, Facebook, generally speaking, and particularly Twitter now that Musk is in charge, now that they're being used to give Americans a voice to speak up against our government, now they're dangerous, now they need to be shut down, now we have to be very concerned about what's happening on these platforms.
01:18:44.000I mean, to be fair, American platforms are all kinds of messed up and nefarious too, but I think the added element of a foreign national government that has ties to the company's operation is just a risk I'm not willing to take.
01:18:59.000You know, I think TikTok is so interesting because I think it maybe really spurred influencer culture and social media dependence, especially for business, in an unusual way because it blew up during COVID.
01:19:18.000I mean, that was really the reason Taylor Lorenz, in my opinion, wrote the bad article about me was because at that time, Everything was there was no entertainment happening in Hollywood.
01:19:30.000And so I had a bunch of social media stars.
01:19:33.000And so I had like, you know, a golden nugget that everybody wanted.
01:19:37.000And so her talent agency, you know, my opinion, like, that's why she went after me, because I had something valuable, which was these influencers that were creating content on on TikTok.
01:19:48.000I think do you think that do you think that Like, these people are allowed to turn up the volume or turn the volume down, right?
01:19:56.000They're allowed to say, you know, you're not allowed to dance around a bikini.
01:19:59.000And I'm not saying there should be more censorship, but is there a reason why you think that they're not turning down the volume on, let's say, anti-Semitism or, you know, war?
01:20:58.000Funded by the CCP or external sources, they don't care for the advertiser, they can do whatever they want, they can't control it, so they have to stop it.
01:21:05.000I don't think the issue is Jewish people, I think the U.S.
01:21:08.000is concerned that We're going to have a youth... like, the sentiment in this country among young people is anti-Israel.
01:21:31.000military policy in the Middle East is flipped on its head.
01:21:34.000Massive advantage for China and Russia and the BRICS nations.
01:21:37.000So, the Deep State is between a rock and a hard place because, well, they supported it, they ignored the problems, they're super arrogant, and they reap what they've sown.
01:21:47.000So the platform, though, is able to say, for example, if you talk about gender ideology, you're walking on a... people have gotten suspended, banned, right, on YouTube because they talk about the gender ideology situation.
01:22:00.000And so does that then make it so more people are... so one side, basically, of the argument is silenced and the other is allowed to...
01:22:11.000Uh, grow and be the popular thing, right?
01:22:15.000Um, the fact is we're giving the platforms the ability to shape culture in that way because so many people want to be content creators.
01:23:29.000TikTok will censor you in two seconds for no reason, just because they're like, my assumption is behind the scenes, if you run afoul of their narrative, they don't care.
01:23:38.000They don't need to abide by any of the rules.
01:23:39.000There's no contracts and nothing you can do about it.
01:25:27.000So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna see what happens when this, they're not giving us the actual numbers, but there were a lot of members of Congress who bought a bunch of metastock right before they all voted to ban TikTok.
01:25:41.000And so this kind of feels pretty good because, you know, I see all these reports and it's like, here's a list of members of Congress who bought stock in Meta just before voting to ban TikTok.
01:25:50.000And it's a lot of people and it's a good amount of money.
01:25:53.000And then when the ban happens, Meta stock plunges.
01:25:55.000And I was like, I can't believe that's allowed for them to do that, to be able to buy the stocks and all that.
01:26:25.000I mean, look, if our politicians were intelligent enough, economically speaking, to have the kinds of stock portfolios that they have with the income they have, there would be no excuse for our economy to look the way that it looks.
01:26:40.000Well, I've got to tell you, I watched your episode where you were first talking about the YouTube thing and I was like, I really got to tip my hat to you, Tim, because, you know, it seems like you took it on the chin and you have, you have plans and you have people that, you know, some of these TikTokers, I see them and I'm like, why aren't you focusing on other platforms and getting the email addresses and all that stuff?
01:27:02.000It's hard to run a business when you're totally at the mercy of a platform.
01:27:08.000You're building and doing all these things.
01:27:09.000I would be a lot more stressed out about it, but you just seem to move forward.
01:27:18.000And that's inspiring, I think, because it's not easy to build a business like this.
01:27:22.000And I know because I've been in the industry for a long time.
01:27:26.000I think people go to Congress because they feel like... There's very few people go to Congress because they want to make things better.
01:27:33.000I think they're mostly just slightly below mediocre people who are like, I am just so awful, the only way I will ever matter is if I'm in office, and they're forced to know my name.
01:27:50.000It's mediocre people, they have limited skills, and they're like, all I have to do is... Look, it's real simple.
01:27:57.000You put on a jumpsuit, you slap the stickers for all the corporate brands that are sponsoring you and funding your candidacy, and they say, hey, we'll give 50 million to your super PAC if, not 50, but like if you're a member of Congress, we'll give you 2 million to your super PAC.
01:28:11.000We got a bill that we will want you to put through.
01:28:14.000And then when they're in Congress, what was it, who was it that was telling us, was it Matt Gaetz mentioning this, that you have to pay money to get your committee seats?
01:28:53.000And they're mediocre people who are like, well, I'm worthless.
01:28:57.000Maybe I'll just suckle the teat of the corporate political arm and do as they say, and then people will put my name in the history books, and then they'll get their name written on stone or something, and that's why they do it.
01:29:08.000Then they go, and when it's time to vote, they're like, don't know, don't care, whatever the corporations tell me to do, whatever the intelligence agencies say.
01:29:15.000Look at Mike Johnson, man, that guy's a disappointment.
01:29:18.000Mike Johnson's like, well, I went into the confidential, secure confidential room with the Deep State and came out and now I'm going to do literally everything they say no matter what.
01:29:26.000Do you think the effort to oust him is going to work?
01:29:35.000Do you guys think that the TikTok ban or the thing forcing them to divest, do you think that all these people in the government have been briefed by the NSA and CIA and that we'll never know any of the reasons why they all got on board?
01:29:49.000It's why it's so bipartisan or is it something else maybe more nefarious?
01:29:54.000Like why they got on board with the TikTok ban?
01:29:56.000Yeah, because it's a bipartisan thing, right?
01:30:04.000After October 7th, there was a bunch of pro-Israel content on TikTok.
01:30:08.000A week went by and it shifted dramatically towards pro-Palestine, which many researchers said, and this part's speculative in opinion, it looked like a weighted algorithm that TikTok either intentionally did this or Foreign countries launched an influence campaign intentionally promoting pro-Palestine content, targeting young people.
01:30:30.000And either way, whether TikTok did it on purpose or foreign countries were launching these things to generate the sentiment, the U.S.
01:30:46.000And then Democrats got on board instantly saying, you got it.
01:30:50.000Whatever you say, big donors, and it is now they want to ban TikTok.
01:30:54.000Trump's the Trump faction and Republicans wanted to ban it because it's promoting degeneracy and it's it's promoting basically Democrat policies.
01:31:02.000It used to be that we were very much in tune with like the government.
01:31:07.000Well, maybe not always, but you know, at least I did is like the government knows better about what's best for me, like for the FDA, like something to get approved.
01:31:18.000Like I don't have the sophistication to be able to say, okay, yeah, the Chinese
01:31:22.000have my information and how that is damaging and, and all the different things. But I think
01:31:27.000with, with COVID and everything else, it's like, we don't have the same trust in those
01:31:31.000institutions. And so it's also like, I don't, I don't actually know who has the best interest if they are
01:31:37.000banning it, because this is bad for the information, or if it's you get what I'm
01:31:42.000The trust in the government is low and so you – basically everyone is serving their own interests and I think that's probably true.
01:31:46.000I mean there are people who would be on either side of this issue for their own reasons or for reasons they're not disclosing and presenting themselves as being the good guys.
01:31:56.000I mean I think ultimately this is always the gamble with – you know.
01:32:01.000Having any sort of collective government, you know, you have to send someone to represent you and that person has to hopefully have good morals and make decisions that are just.
01:32:11.000What bothers me about all of these bills is that they tend to roll so many things into them, right?
01:32:16.000I think we should vote on AIDS separately.
01:32:18.000I think that this TikTok thing should have been added.
01:32:23.000There was one of the senators who was talking during debate earlier this week, was mentioning the fact that, you know, the chambers are supposed to go on recess soon.
01:32:32.000So they're saying like, well, we're kind of on a deadline.
01:32:35.000We can't amend this again because then we have to send it to the House, but the House would go on whatever.
01:32:38.000Like, this is not how lawfare is supposed to go.
01:32:41.000There are a whole bunch of things that are happening that, as the average American voter, you don't have basically the space to run your own life and also be like, well, I've got to stay on my congressman so he doesn't try and pull something nefarious by scheduling a vote at a time when there becomes this deadline.
01:33:01.000And so I think it's a rough time to be an American voter and saying like, well, I don't know where I stand on all these issues, but also I don't know that I can trust everyone who's involved in making it happen.
01:33:12.000What's funny though is like 200 years ago, or not even that long ago, let's say like 120 years ago, you're a member of Congress, you'd have no idea what they were doing.
01:33:24.000They'd go and they'd hang out and they'd just be like, whatever, yes, no, maybe, I don't care.
01:33:28.000And then people would just be like, oh, I hope they're doing it.
01:33:39.000There are so many advances in technology that actually make it easier to keep an eye on what's going on.
01:33:44.000In some ways, it makes it almost more bizarre that we are watching in real time all these kind of crazy things happen.
01:33:53.000When you get, like, what was it, the border security bill, but it wasn't actually the border security bill at all.
01:33:57.000They kept calling it the border bill in the media and then it was actually all foreign aid and they're like, also we could let this many thousand illegal aliens in every year.
01:34:05.000Like, we are able to fact check faster and to catch these things.
01:34:10.000On the other hand, it doesn't dissuade any politician from carrying on business as usual.
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01:35:32.000F the Magician says, the same people that shouted punch a Nazi are now chanting from the river to the sea and death to Israel.
01:35:39.000Seamus, there's a cartoon in there somewhere where, like, either there's a time machine involved or they're just marching down the street chanting death to Israel and then punching themselves in the face.
01:37:08.000That was amazing, that was a really good one.
01:37:09.000That was a really good cartoon, thank you.
01:37:11.000And it was real, I mean, it was just audio I took from you.
01:37:13.000He took audio from my show where I was like, buy a chicken, maybe you do, maybe you don't, you'll regret it, or something like that, and then, uh, it's actually... Okay, I gotta go back and look it up.
01:37:21.000It was me basically saying, like, If you buy chickens, you'll be happy and outside, but the way it sounded, Seamus turned it into me torturing a guy.
01:37:29.000Because you're like, you know, if you don't buy, like, you can either have chickens or you can be surrounded by a mom.
01:37:35.000I can't even, I want to, I want to find, I can't remember what I named it.
01:37:40.000It's like Tim Pool threatens you or something.
01:37:42.000Do you have like, do you have like different ideas of like what they could be?
01:37:46.000And then you get around with your team and you're like, which one does everybody like?
01:37:53.000Because we have to make them so quickly to keep, yeah, yeah.
01:37:58.000And I just had this idea and I was like, we need to make this.
01:38:00.000It's called Tim Pool Out of Context from Freedom 2.
01:38:03.000Did you say you have a podcast where you and your team talk about how you decide what to make or how you go through the process?
01:38:08.000So behind the paywall, after we finish a video, we'll usually record a short podcast on how we made it, what the process was like, the parts we enjoyed, the parts that were difficult, and we just sort of let the audience in on that, or we let the paying members in on that.
01:38:37.000Dick Nemo says, Boomers tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps but neglect to mention they stole your bootstraps and also put you in debt before you were born.
01:38:55.000I wonder if we could calculate the cumulative student loan debt of all of the protesters involved at the Columbia, you know what I mean?
01:39:01.000Like, every single one of those people, I mean, not all of them, probably are getting really fantastic scholarship based on all sorts of great merits, I'm sure, but a lot of them took out huge loans and are now like, we hate this school, we're gonna protest.
01:39:15.000Maybe you should just drop out and stop paying them.
01:39:17.000All right, Alpha Turkey says also, USC has gone remote for classes tomorrow.
01:39:21.000I'm sure the schools are super excited.
01:39:23.000They're like, how much money do we save by going remote?
01:39:25.000And they're like, oh, it's like 30, $40,000 a day.
01:39:28.000I mean, actually, how much do you think it costs?
01:39:30.000Probably Columbia is probably a hundred grand a day or some ridiculous number, right?
01:39:34.000With staff, yeah, staffing, janitors, electricity, the cleaning supplies, the groundskeeping.
01:39:41.000They're probably saving, oh, I mean, like, food, right?
01:39:44.000If you don't have students on campus, you don't have to serve meals.
01:39:47.000This is in order to prevent what is going on right now?
01:39:54.000I think some schools are starting to announce preemptively, like, don't protest here, we'll have consequences, we're going online, but... Alright, Brian Egan says, getting tired of lefties claiming binary gender is a social construct that we just made up.
01:40:07.000Like, that isn't exactly what they're doing.
01:40:51.000There was one clip I saw that I commented on where he's talking to a woman and she mentions fully nude strip clubs and he's like, fully nude as opposed to what?
01:41:00.000And it's just like, oh heavens me, you wholesome Met Walsh.
01:41:03.000He does not know that there are different kinds of strip clubs.
01:41:08.000And then he's like, well, I was raised by two loving parents, so I have no idea, and I'm like... He's correct, but I also had two loving parents, and I suppose, growing up in a different environment, there are... This is an actually important distinction to be made.
01:41:33.000They strip their clothes off, they dance on the pole, but they're totally covered.
01:41:36.000Then you have topless bars, where it's illegal in some states for women to take their bottoms off.
01:41:40.000So, you know, you can see the top, but you can't see the bottom.
01:41:43.000And then you have some states that allow fully nude, but it's not everywhere.
01:41:47.000I think, like, South Dakota is fully clothed.
01:41:50.000And some of them change based on the alcohol, like if you serve alcohol.
01:41:53.000Someone was telling me this in Colorado.
01:41:54.000The reason this is important is because people not knowing this, when that child was dancing on stage and taking his clothes off, and it was stripping, we talked about this years ago, people were like, no, no, he's just removing an upper layer of clothing.
01:42:09.000Because they're preying upon the ignorance of the average person who doesn't realize that's actually most strip clubs.
01:42:14.000I'm glad you brought this up because recently I saw that girl, Nala Ray, with the red hair that left Only Fans for God.
01:42:24.000And while I heard you say that, you know, this is good that we're kind of getting away from debaucherous ideals and going more towards, I don't know, faith-based stuff, but I know what the back end of OnlyFans looks like because when I was basically left almost destitute, somebody was like, why don't you represent OnlyFans, girls?
01:42:45.000And I was like, well, I've never even been on it, so I don't even know.
01:43:28.000I spoke out about Nala, and I said, because she painted this picture as though, you know, she didn't talk about the chatters and all that stuff, and she also said that, oh, well, this is how I make money now.
01:43:39.000I go live on TikTok, and I talk about God, and I'm very modest addressed, and this is how I make my money now.
01:43:46.000What that message is saying to somebody that maybe wants to leave OF is, uh, yeah, you can absolutely be a content creator and be a, you know, get attention and do it this way.
01:43:56.000And you're going to be able to make money.
01:43:57.000The reality is that, um, that girl Nala Ray has not gone live on Tik TOK in four months.
01:44:02.000So how, how did she, how can she say that that's how she makes money now?
01:44:56.000You should just be authentic because then nobody can come back and call you a liar or whatever.
01:45:00.000But it's like, you know, I always question influencers that package a story so perfectly that it seems, and then you find out why it's disingenuous.
01:45:09.000And there are people that can get damaged from stuff like that.
01:45:12.000Like I was telling you earlier, the parents of her and all that that she disparaged.
01:46:32.000Now there's going to be an investigation into any criminal activity.
01:46:36.000And if that criminal activity advanced any of Hamas's goals, and if it does, I feel like you have no choice but to charge them as if they were Hamas.
01:46:52.000If someone swears their allegiance to Hamas, it's like and Hamas is recognized by the government as such.
01:46:56.000But I do believe it is it is dangerous.
01:46:58.000And shouldn't And have murdered civilians, and yeah.
01:47:00.000Yeah, shouldn't we treat that as serious?
01:47:02.000Like, that's one of the other issues, is like, she can scream that, become a viral moment, somebody out there is like, yeah, nice one, but like, I think we should treat it seriously if you're publicly being like, we're all this terrorist organization.
01:48:28.000Yeah, I mean, how is that usually handled?
01:48:29.000Like, you'll have rappers saying that they're a member of a gang, but then they're not prosecuted because they go, oh, well, like, they're just being artistic, they haven't said they participated in a specific crime, they weren't threatening to.
01:48:41.000I mean, it would be like if Columbia were to be like, oh, we've identified that student, we're going to be investigating this, maybe.
01:48:47.000But like, there's not really anything you could do at this point.
01:48:51.000I just think generally, it is something that Like saying we are Hamas or we are whatever, you know, organization that is recognized as a terrorist group shouldn't be something that our youth develops as like a catchy slogan.
01:49:07.000I think that's bad and it's concerning that they're like so casually being like, no problem, I'm ISIS.
01:49:13.000Yeah, some people don't even know that being 18 means that you're a legal adult.
01:49:18.000And I think they're encouraged not to.
01:49:19.000I mean, yeah, when I manage the kids, they're like, oh, yeah, we need somebody to be here, an adult to be here when we turn on the, you know, electricity.
01:49:26.000And I'm like, you guys are all over 18.
01:49:40.000I would love to break this down for you.
01:49:42.000First, there are many words for small percentage of the population.
01:49:46.000Trans people, I think, make up what, probably 0.2 or less, actually, of the world's population, and they have the word transphobia.
01:49:52.000Gay people make up substantially a small percentage of the world's population, and they have their own word as well, homophobia.
01:49:59.000There are a lot of groups that have words that describe calling out that particular group.
01:50:06.000The 95% of the news think, ooh, this one's my favorite.
01:50:09.000There are these memes people post where it's a bunch of people who work in media and they put stars of Davids on their head.
01:50:14.000And the first thing they'll say is, yes, it is a fact that John Stewart pointed this out exceptionally.
01:50:20.000There are a lot of people who are Jewish who work in media.
01:50:22.000And when, if someone points that out and they're called anti-Semitic for saying it, all that does is make things worse.
01:50:29.000Because people can plainly see there are a lot of people in media, in Hollywood for instance, who are Jewish to the point where people in Hollywood make jokes about how Jewish it is.
01:50:38.000That being said, there was one, a lot of these are fake.
01:50:43.000One had Luke Rudkowski on it with the Star of David.
01:50:48.000These people, they post these things and they're just screwing with you because the core element of their argument is quote-unquote Jewish privilege, which means literally nothing to me.
01:52:00.000And the funny thing is, Cassandra MacDonald is the one who does all of the booking, and she's tweeting up a storm critical of Israel non-stop.
01:52:13.000Yeah, I don't care for the privilege argument.
01:52:16.000Like, there are too many white people who are doing this, who are doing that.
01:52:19.000The funny thing is, when Ye came on the show, and he was saying, who is they though, and all that stuff, on that show we pulled up the CEOs of all these big banks, and they're all Irish guys.
01:52:27.000Hold on, that is extremely, that is extremely bigoted.
01:52:30.000Got anything to say for your people over there?
01:52:31.000What's the word for being bigoted towards Irish people?
01:52:34.000Probably like, hiberophobia or something.
01:52:37.000No, that is extremely offensive, and I would appreciate it if you didn't smear my people in that way.
01:52:44.000And the funny thing to me about the anti-Israel, like, staunchly, like, Zionist, you're a Zionist, you're, you know, they call you a goy and stuff.
01:53:05.000is engaging in military intervention in Syria, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Ukraine.
01:53:11.000We are doing these things not because one tiny nation, Israel, is telling us.
01:53:16.000We are funding Israel because it's advancing our interests and our goals.
01:53:21.000But there are people who are absolutely convinced it's the other way around, and I'm like, Oh boy, that would basically negate all of the other military operations the U.S.
01:54:20.000But you do use it to close your laptop.
01:54:23.000By the way, my Amazon account, I'm an Amazon influencer, and a couple days after I went on your show, and I was talking about the OnlyFansGirl, my account got terminated, and I don't know why, really.
01:54:36.000And that's the thing about all of these big tech companies, like if you get shut down and you're like, please explain to me, they're like, no, we won't.
01:54:43.000We have all of your data and we can hold you hostess forever.
01:54:47.000He's the new CEO and I'm going to start tweeting at him if they don't help me out.
01:54:51.000But I obviously didn't, they said it was malware.
01:54:54.000So it could be people, it could, I didn't like post malware links, but it could be people that don't like me, my opinions on the internet or whatever that they can.
01:55:40.000What I don't understand is why we have this...
01:55:43.000This TikTok divestment bill, which literally doesn't ban TikTok, even though everyone calls it that, and I get it's the colloquial name, it would result in it being banned from U.S.
01:55:52.000services, but it would still be allowed to exist and operate in the U.S.
01:55:56.000Just the servers would have to be hosted overseas, and you'd have to go to TikTok.us to use it.
01:56:01.000So imagine everyone saying, oh no, they banned TikTok, so I'm going to open up my browser and go to TikTok.
01:56:59.000As if we're such a pro-family society that we delegate everything to the family and to parents.
01:57:06.000I mean, we have social safety nets for basically everything to the point where we've totally usurped the role of the family.
01:57:11.000But then when people say, hey, it's actually kind of difficult to prevent my child from being brainwashed by these extremely well-funded social media algorithms.
01:57:59.000Parents having a responsibility does not mean we don't also need some kind of social fail-safe.
01:58:03.000Well, the carrot on the stick is fame, and we're living in a society that has a deep fame addiction, and kids do not feel validated if they do not get the likes or the views, and it's creating little baby narcissist sociopaths, I think, that grow up to be extremely insecure.
01:58:22.000And that's why I think that people need, if you're going to be an influencer, if you're going to be a content creator, you can't be driven just by your ego.
01:58:30.000You have to at least stand for something, you know?
01:58:33.000But when you stand for something, you have to be prepared that people are going to try to shut you up.
01:58:37.000All right, Ian Birch says, Hi Tim and crew, our cat Seamus passed about a week ago after 15 great years.
01:58:46.000I'm glad to hear you mention Seamus and what he's got going on as it reminds me of our cat.
01:58:51.000Also, hi Seamus, glad to see you're back.
02:00:08.000He's just like, you know, he's a little bit feral.
02:00:10.000He's not like used to being in houses, especially nice houses.
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