Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Anti Israel Protests ERUPT All Over US, Occupy 2.0, TX ARRESTS Protesters w-Ari Jacob | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 the the anti-israel protests that have erupted at universities

00:00:19.000 over this past couple of weeks have expanded

00:00:23.000 And now more universities, more cities are starting to see these massive protests emerge.

00:00:28.000 People are not too happy with the current state of Israel.

00:00:32.000 But I think what's happening is as more police begin to arrest more protesters and generate more media attention, as Fox News and other cable outlets plaster this story all across television, more people learn about it, and just like Occupy Wall Street, the movement gets bigger.

00:00:49.000 And so, I actually have a question for the audience, right as we start, for those that want to chat.

00:00:53.000 Give me two cents.

00:00:54.000 Have we seen anything this big since Occupy Wall Street?

00:00:57.000 We've got encampments popping up at now Harvard, I'm hearing.

00:01:01.000 We've got UT Austin mass arrests.

00:01:03.000 The governor is saying they will not tolerate antisemitism, which kind of sounds like he's arresting people for hate speech.

00:01:10.000 And then you've got, of course, Serge is telling us he's hearing something going on in Utah.

00:01:15.000 We've got Yale.

00:01:16.000 We've got Columbia.

00:01:17.000 We've got marches in the streets of New York for this.

00:01:20.000 So it certainly seems like this could be the biggest nationwide movement since Occupy.

00:01:25.000 Now, I know the Summer of Love riots were massive, but that was a flash in the pan of riots and protests.

00:01:31.000 These are actual encampments.

00:01:32.000 So that's specifically what I'm saying.

00:01:34.000 So we'll talk about that story.

00:01:35.000 That one's pretty big.

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00:01:57.000 Plus, we got some Joe Biden gaffes.

00:02:00.000 He read the teleprompter again and said, four more years, pause.

00:02:04.000 And I kid you not.

00:02:05.000 He once again called for freedom over democracy.

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00:02:10.000 We don't know why.

00:02:11.000 And then we have Elon Musk's battle with Brazil over, I'm sorry, not with Brazil, with Australia over free speech.

00:02:18.000 But the Brazil thing is happening too.

00:02:19.000 So we'll talk about that.

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00:06:38.000 Here we go, we got the story from the Postmillennial.

00:06:40.000 Texas police arrest UT Austin students attempting to set up anti-Israel Gaza camp.

00:06:46.000 Governor Greg Abbott threatens more arrests. 0.99

00:06:49.000 So, a ton of anti-Israel, as Greg Price calls it, pro-Hamas idiots at UT Austin tried to set up an encampment. 0.99

00:07:01.000 The police moved in and engaged in mass arrests. 0.99

00:07:04.000 I think we have this tweet here from Greg Abbott.

00:07:07.000 He said arrests being made right now and will continue until the crowd disperses.

00:07:13.000 These protesters belong in jail.

00:07:15.000 Anti-Semitism will not be tolerated in Texas, period.

00:07:17.000 Students joining in hate-filled anti-Semitic protests at any public college or university in Texas should be expelled.

00:07:24.000 And oh boy!

00:07:25.000 This is where things get interesting.

00:07:26.000 We have a bunch of stories, right?

00:07:28.000 You've got NYPD mass arrests at another anti-Israel protest.

00:07:32.000 You've got Columbia negotiating allowing them to stay.

00:07:35.000 You've got Harvard protests popping up.

00:07:38.000 Even Mike Johnson shows up to Columbia and is threatening these students.

00:07:42.000 This is wild.

00:07:44.000 TikTok is on the verge of being banned and it all is centered around Israel. 0.59

00:07:49.000 Here's what's interesting about the first story.

00:07:51.000 So we'll get to all of that news.

00:07:53.000 But there's a bunch of small stories in the bigger story.

00:07:54.000 The first one I think is the most important.

00:07:56.000 Is Greg Abbott basically saying he's arresting people for hate speech.

00:08:01.000 He's saying these protesters belong in jail.

00:08:04.000 Anti-Semitism will not be tolerated.

00:08:06.000 Greg Abbott of Texas is saying for their hateful speech they're being arrested.

00:08:10.000 Or they should be in jail.

00:08:12.000 Yeah, hate speech is one of these things that I can understand why people want to say things like that, but it's such a danger of free speech that I think you have to tread really carefully.

00:08:21.000 This is also something I'm seeing repeated basically with every older politician.

00:08:27.000 This is very much sort of an older stance to say, This is the emergence of anti-Semitism on college campuses, whereas younger, you know, protesters, activists are saying, no, you guys have gone too far.

00:08:41.000 You're supporting genocide. 0.71

00:08:42.000 So you're really seeing an ideological clash here.

00:08:44.000 You know, it's also really disturbing and frightening.

00:08:47.000 For so many years on college campuses, it's been totally in vogue to say literally anything that you want about white people.

00:08:54.000 And even though in the past I've said on this show that I reject this paradigm, of whiteness. 0.73

00:08:59.000 I think it's something that's been imposed upon us and that certain ethnicities such as the Irish, Italian, Polish, other Catholic ethnicities weren't considered white.

00:09:06.000 The reality is people who look like me are considered white, whether that's a label I appreciate or not.

00:09:11.000 And these college students have been perfectly comfortable and entitled to say literally anything they want about us, but now that they're talking about one specific minority, it's, oh my gosh, we have to arrest them and throw them in prison. 0.98

00:09:22.000 Yeah.

00:09:23.000 It's funny, and I'm not saying that the rhetoric, yeah, and I'm not saying that hateful rhetoric towards any group is a good thing, but what I am saying is it's really interesting that they were literally able to criticize the majority of this country for years and years and years, and none of them got in any trouble, and then people sit there and go, oh my gosh, they're criticizing other ethnic groups.

00:09:43.000 How could this possibly have happened?

00:09:44.000 Well, I can tell you how it happened.

00:09:46.000 You told them that that was okay for the past several decades, and they got away with it for the past several decades.

00:09:50.000 decades. They don't see the distinction that older generations did. Yeah. What I don't

00:09:53.000 like about this is the the conflation of Israel criticism with anti-semitism. Yeah, that as

00:09:58.000 well. And I think it's also important to point out many of these people are anti-semitic.

00:10:02.000 And there was a video out of Yale where a Jewish guy is trying to walk through campus

00:10:05.000 and they stop him and they block him for literally no reason. And the reason I've heard people

00:10:09.000 say is like, oh, but they're acting shady and weird and they're filming. And I'm like,

00:10:13.000 dude, you can't just go up to somebody for that reason.

00:10:15.000 Right? Yeah. Also, Yale's gonna be confused when they find out their founder is Jewish.

00:10:19.000 Right. Eli Yale. I could be wrong I don't know about that.

00:10:23.000 One thing that I've just seen culturally and working with young people is that we've gotten into this habit of feigning victimhood.

00:10:31.000 And so what is the difference between really being threatened and having your feelings hurt?

00:10:36.000 And what people are seeing is that if they do the feigning victimhood very well and it works, then they just keep doing it over and over again.

00:10:46.000 I don't know, you know, it does get into that freedom of speech thing.

00:10:49.000 It's like, are people really being, are they scared for their safety or, or do they just not like what other people are saying?

00:10:56.000 Like there was a story of the, of the kid that, um, I think he said that somebody was an illegal alien in his English class and the Mexican kid.

00:11:04.000 I'm from Mexico.

00:11:05.000 I moved here when I was two and that illegal alien joke was a joke back then. 0.99

00:11:09.000 I'm, I'm just fine.

00:11:10.000 I survived it.

00:11:11.000 Well, this kid didn't make a joke.

00:11:12.000 The kid in school said, was asked to write about aliens, and he said, you're talking about illegal aliens or space aliens?

00:11:17.000 And they're like, how dare you!

00:11:19.000 Dude, I'm totally wrong about Yale, by the way.

00:11:20.000 I just fact-checked myself.

00:11:21.000 Okay.

00:11:22.000 But anyway, yeah, so I don't know.

00:11:23.000 What do you think about it?

00:11:26.000 What's going on in Texas, look, if Greg Abbott wants to arrest people because they're trying to occupy a public space, keeping other people out and basically seizing territory to create a Chazz Chop kind of situation, then he needs to say that. 1.00

00:11:39.000 Because what he tweeted out right now is, you're not allowed to protest and be hateful at the same time.

00:11:45.000 Yeah, words matter.

00:11:46.000 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

00:11:48.000 That's not okay, Greg.

00:11:49.000 If people want to march down the street and say what they want to say, even if I disagree with it, that's what free speech is.

00:11:54.000 Yeah.

00:11:55.000 I agree with removing these people, however.

00:11:58.000 I don't think they should be at Columbia, and it's because they're setting up an occupation.

00:12:02.000 Peaceful protests are great, but if they're taking over the common space from other people, and these videos come out where they're like, we're going to link hands and then push them out, okay, you're shut down.

00:12:12.000 Now you're occupying territory and taking it away from the people who were there first.

00:12:18.000 And that's wrong, and that shouldn't happen.

00:12:19.000 Did you see the video?

00:12:20.000 I think it was from Harvard of people rushing onto the green to start setting up an encampment.

00:12:24.000 I mean, it is an intentional, growing position, right?

00:12:29.000 This is something that, you know, I think you're probably the best one to talk about this with Occupy Wall Street, but it is something they want to set up an effectively satellite network at college campuses across the U.S., starting predominantly in the Northeast, where a lot of the college already lean towards a, like, leftist, progressive worldview.

00:12:46.000 Well, what is dangerous too is, and I saw this when the whole BLM thing was happening, I was managing all these different TikTok houses and I was totally unaware of politics. 0.84

00:12:54.000 And the kids were like, this is cool to go and protest BLM stuff.

00:12:58.000 And they're like, we want to put a banner outside.

00:13:00.000 I'm like, just do whatever you want.

00:13:01.000 I mean, if that's the popular thing, and what happens is if that becomes the popular thing to be anti-Semitic, just because people are getting clout or something by, by being that way, you were saying that you were getting called a Zionist.

00:13:15.000 I mean, I heard a podcast where there was, like, a Jewish influencer saying that being a Zionist isn't even, like, bad, or, you know, so I don't even know what it is.

00:13:23.000 I just know it's unpopular and I don't want to be called that.

00:13:26.000 So, Zionist is basically, like, if you're anti-Israel, it's white supremacy, it's racist, it's a catch-all term for people who are not aligned with my worldview.

00:13:36.000 That's what it's turned into, right, at least now.

00:13:38.000 Right, and it functions the same way. 0.98

00:13:39.000 Let's say you're like an unrepentant white supremacist marching around in Klan robes. 0.98

00:13:43.000 They go, haha, you're a white supremacist, and the guy goes, okay. 0.89

00:13:46.000 Let's say you're like a moderate liberal or classical liberal or right-leaning individual and you don't like racism, and so you say things like, I believe in meritocracy. 1.00

00:13:54.000 They go, you're a racist white supremacist!

00:13:57.000 The Zionist thing There's literal Zionism, where someone believes in the creation of a Jewish state in Israel and they want to have the Holy Land and all of that stuff. 0.94

00:14:06.000 And then there's varying degrees of how people describe it.

00:14:08.000 And that doesn't have a negative connotation, correct?

00:14:10.000 It certainly does.

00:14:12.000 The idea of wanting to create a country, some people view very negatively, colonization.

00:14:16.000 Then there's me and other more libertarian people who are like, I don't think the U.S.

00:14:21.000 should be funding foreign military expenditures in whatever Israel is doing.

00:14:25.000 And they go, so you think Israel exists?

00:14:27.000 And I'm like, there's quite literally a country called Israel.

00:14:29.000 Zionist! 1.00

00:14:30.000 Because in the mind of many of these people, Israel being a fabrication created by, you know, with the whatever, however they want to describe the creation of Israel.

00:14:41.000 Anyone who acknowledges that it does exist is also a Zionist. 0.97

00:14:45.000 And I'm like, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't.

00:14:46.000 I don't know.

00:14:47.000 It's a country with a government and they have a military and there's a war going on.

00:14:50.000 And they're like, so many of these people don't think there is an Israel.

00:14:54.000 They say it's Palestine.

00:14:55.000 It's occupied Palestine.

00:14:56.000 If you call it Israel, you are a Zionist. 0.94

00:14:59.000 So it's like, I don't even know, dude.

00:15:01.000 All I'm saying is we're America and we should just stay out of it.

00:15:03.000 Yeah, I think young people, they don't know, right?

00:15:06.000 I don't barely know.

00:15:07.000 I mean, I watch you guys and I try to get the information, but it's like, unless you're deep in this, all you see on TikTok, I saw it, you know, back, I think it was 2020, that every, if you, if you like Trump, or if you say you like Trump, then you're a terrible person.

00:15:20.000 You can't even say it out loud.

00:15:21.000 And so everybody just wants to fit in.

00:15:24.000 I mean, young people, you want to fit into the group.

00:15:26.000 So if something sounds bad, and then you're just going to go with the flow.

00:15:30.000 And I think that could be dangerous as well.

00:15:33.000 I would say all of these students, they have no idea what they're protesting.

00:15:38.000 But there's an interesting question around this too because with, you know, Greg Abbott basically tweeting that hate speech will get you arrested, which is hilarious, there's a question of if these people are saying they are Hamas, Are they saying they're a terrorist organization?

00:15:38.000 Right.

00:15:53.000 Yeah, and they are.

00:15:55.000 But there is a difference, as you mentioned, between that and quote-unquote hate speech.

00:15:58.000 No, but what I'm saying is, you have that video where the woman yells, we are Hamas.

00:16:03.000 Should she be arrested and charged?

00:16:04.000 Say, okay, you've sworn allegiance to a terror organization, and now any crime you commit is in alignment.

00:16:11.000 I mean, how do we handle that?

00:16:12.000 Do we just say, no, no, if someone is clearly an American college student, they can't possibly be Hamas.

00:16:19.000 But why would that be true, though?

00:16:20.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

00:16:22.000 That's an absurdity.

00:16:23.000 Certainly, radicalized young people could join a terror organization.

00:16:26.000 Then is the question, well, all they really did was commit a misdemeanor, therefore they won't be charged with terror.

00:16:32.000 No, that's not how the law is supposed to work.

00:16:35.000 I think we get into really dangerous territory if we start arresting Columbia College students who are yelling, they are Hamas. 0.89

00:16:41.000 Not understanding.

00:16:42.000 And then what are we going to do?

00:16:43.000 Send them to Guantanamo Bay?

00:16:44.000 We can't do that.

00:16:45.000 But then think about the precedent.

00:16:47.000 The precedent being that people could literally swear allegiance to a terror organization, go around committing mass crimes, and then those who are only involved slightly or aren't actively involved in killing but are blockading things, we let them go?

00:17:03.000 No, you're part of a terror organization.

00:17:04.000 We charge you for it.

00:17:05.000 If you were Greg Abbott, what do you think the message to put out and say would be?

00:17:10.000 Oh, he should have tweeted, Occupying public space without a permit takes that space away from other people who have paid for this.

00:17:17.000 It is the seizure of the commons by an ideological group and we won't tolerate it.

00:17:24.000 No, I think that makes sense.

00:17:26.000 All the loftiness about hate, etc., etc., anti-Semitism will not be tolerated in Texas.

00:17:32.000 I mean, again, what about anti-whiteness, anti-blackness?

00:17:36.000 Are all forms of hatred or not liking a group of people, not constitutionally protected?

00:17:41.000 It seems like it's an overstep.

00:17:44.000 It makes me feel like they are looking at what the other governors and college presidents are saying and being like,

00:17:50.000 what's the acceptable line your office is putting out?

00:17:52.000 Okay, you're saying anti-Semitism, we'll say it too then. 1.00

00:17:54.000 Like, there's a lack of sort of critical analysis of what the core issue is here.

00:17:58.000 Like you're saying, like, occupying a public space for an ideological group,

00:18:01.000 especially in a way that potentially, you know, advocates for violence.

00:18:05.000 You can see some conflict, like, there are things they could be concerned about.

00:18:08.000 But again, it seems like everyone is focusing on the ideological or the ethnic issues.

00:18:11.000 It seems more common sense based versus political and ideological based.

00:18:16.000 I mean, I just think it's funny that Greg Abbott thought criticizing anti-Semitism was like the way to go.

00:18:23.000 Because it's hate speech.

00:18:28.000 It's like the right has been demanding free speech, but this was a signal to, I guess, like moderate liberals or whatever?

00:18:36.000 Well, I think there's a fear of being considered too soft on people who are perceived to be anti-Semitic and therefore becoming anti-Semitic yourself, right?

00:18:42.000 Like, they are trying to fall correctly on the side of this issue when your point is completely valid.

00:18:48.000 Like, they can just say this isn't acceptable for this institution, for whatever else.

00:18:53.000 They don't have to make it as political as they're making it.

00:18:55.000 In fact, I think they're almost making it worse by saying... Yes, it adds more fuel to the fire.

00:18:58.000 It's going to get way worse.

00:18:58.000 I agree.

00:19:00.000 I just want to mention this.

00:19:02.000 I think you're right that the right is kind of fumbling.

00:19:04.000 I won't even say the right.

00:19:06.000 Conservatives and conservative politicians are fumbling by talking about hate speech, by talking about anti-semitism, etc.

00:19:11.000 I mean, there is an obvious strategic win here for conservatives that actually involves talking about our own country instead of other countries.

00:19:17.000 When someone comes in here and says that they are Hamas, you go, okay, there are people in the United States of America saying that they're Hamas, okay?

00:19:25.000 Like, if we're talking about Affairs in foreign countries where horrific acts of violence are occurring.

00:19:31.000 Maybe, maybe that can be for us motivation to figure out who's in our country, who's crossing our borders, what's going on here.

00:19:38.000 No, we can't know that.

00:19:39.000 That would take all the mystery out of the Biden administration.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:41.000 Exactly.

00:19:42.000 We have to be like extremely intensely focused on what's happening in the Middle East.

00:19:46.000 We shouldn't be focusing on what's happening at the border.

00:19:49.000 I mean, you know, I think the rights process is really important.

00:19:52.000 Like I said the other night, I think that it would be really cool if the American youth rallied for a border wall or rallied for something that would impact domestically, that would help people, that they are going to live beside.

00:20:04.000 But instead, this foreign war is basically dominating our news cycle.

00:20:10.000 I think it's important that we analyze what's going on.

00:20:12.000 On the other hand, it is It is interesting to me that the youth at the most elite institutions in America decided this was the issue that they were willing to do anything for.

00:20:22.000 I mean, I was watching interviews with protesters at Columbia today and, you know, their graduation is coming up.

00:20:27.000 The schools announced they're going to go fully remote for the rest of the semester or offer online classes.

00:20:31.000 It's like a week, isn't it?

00:20:31.000 But how long is that?

00:20:32.000 It's really, it's not that long.

00:20:33.000 It's maybe like two or three weeks.

00:20:35.000 They were saying, like, if the university says you can't get your diploma if you're participating in this, would you go without your diploma?

00:20:41.000 And she was like, well, this cause is, I'd have to think about it, but this cause is so much bigger than, you know, my diploma.

00:20:47.000 It's a small sacrifice to me.

00:20:49.000 And you want to be like, and this girl is wearing sunglasses, she's covered, like, you can't identify, I mean, I couldn't identify her, maybe someone on campus could, but there is this, there's a narrative that the people involved in this are having that this is like their big contribution to the world, to It's going to get way bigger.

00:21:04.000 During Occupy Wall Street, I'll tell you what happened.

00:21:06.000 there is a level of ideological devoutness that they might be willing to adhere to, which

00:21:13.000 it makes it concerning that it's spreading throughout the US and seems to be getting

00:21:16.000 more chaotic at each school.

00:21:18.000 It's going to get way bigger.

00:21:19.000 Yeah.

00:21:20.000 During Occupy Wall Street, I'll tell you what happened.

00:21:22.000 In the first week, a couple thousand people shot like the- The first weekend, a couple thousand people showed up and protested.

00:21:26.000 They left right away.

00:21:28.000 That was the first weekend.

00:21:29.000 The first week, there was literally five people in the park.

00:21:33.000 I was there.

00:21:34.000 And we were standing under this big blue tarp in the rain.

00:21:37.000 There was nothing in Zuccotti.

00:21:40.000 A cop walked over in a trench coat, smiled, and said something like, good luck, and then left.

00:21:44.000 And we were like, this is funny.

00:21:46.000 And then I asked him, I was like, so is this, is anything happening?

00:21:48.000 Like, what are we doing?

00:21:49.000 I thought it was fun.

00:21:50.000 I was like, you know, being in New York for the first time.

00:21:52.000 And they were like, no, it's because everyone's going to be back on the weekend.

00:21:54.000 And I was like, oh, OK, cool.

00:21:55.000 That next weekend, a bunch of people did show up, and there were big protests and big marches.

00:21:59.000 There was no real tents or encampment.

00:22:01.000 It wasn't allowed.

00:22:02.000 And then during a march, Tony Bologna, they called him, Anthony Bologna, Walked up to four girls who were not in the march and were standing on the sidewalk yelling and sprayed them in the face for no reason.

00:22:14.000 Oh wow.

00:22:15.000 And then there's a video of them screaming in agony.

00:22:18.000 They were just standing on the sidewalk.

00:22:20.000 And that video at the time was the most viral video in internet history.

00:22:25.000 It got 1.3 million views in a couple of hours.

00:22:29.000 So this is like I'm sorry, what college was that again?

00:22:32.000 This was New York City.

00:22:36.000 This is on Broadway, where this took place, just outside of Zuccotti Park.

00:22:42.000 And after this incident, this video goes massively viral.

00:22:46.000 You get, I think, SNL or Daily Show, they did a bit called Christopher Maloney from SVU As Tony, Christopher Maloney is.

00:22:56.000 Tony Maloney.

00:22:57.000 And he's a, it was a bit about a cop who was trigger happy with pepper spray and would go around pepper spraying everybody.

00:23:02.000 It was good.

00:23:03.000 But that video goes viral and then all of a sudden Occupy, which was a New York protest, turned into a nationwide thing.

00:23:10.000 So with these actions, and especially with Greg Abbott saying, it's anti-Semitism, he's basically dumping gasoline on a fire.

00:23:19.000 These people have no idea how to deal with mass unrest.

00:23:21.000 I gotta be honest, if they did literally nothing, it would have gone away.

00:23:26.000 But what happens is...

00:23:27.000 New York allows it, and then people start posting videos, it builds attention, then other places start doing it.

00:23:34.000 When the cops come in, that's what they're hoping for, so that they can create the propaganda to be like, look, look, help, we're being attacked, oh, the cops are after us.

00:23:45.000 Greg Abbott just did them the biggest favor imaginable by saying anti-Semitism will not be tolerated, because now what's going to happen is conservatives are going to say, oh, come on.

00:23:55.000 You can't conflate criticizing a country with being anti-semitic, and then you're going to get the left being like, look at this, you see how they're lying.

00:24:02.000 Then you're going to get, you know, the right anti-Israel side, and they're all going to be unified against this, and they're going to point the finger at Greg Abbott.

00:24:12.000 He is giving them the propaganda they need to rally more people.

00:24:15.000 Yeah, I think you're right, and this is very difficult for either side to handle strategically, because this is not an issue that really breaks down along party lines the way that issues we tend to see mass protests about, too.

00:24:26.000 So, for example, back in 2020, when you had the BLM riots happening, the reality is basically all of the Democratic Party, anti-establishment and pro-establishment, was totally in favor of that movement.

00:24:36.000 When it comes to the Israel-Palestine conflict, that breaks down not so much along party lines, but along establishment versus anti-establishment lines.

00:24:44.000 And so Joe Biden can't really say a whole lot about this without alienating a large fraction of his voter base.

00:24:51.000 And so if this does end up becoming violent, there's a question of whether law and order is going to be enforced or whether they're not allowed to be violent.

00:25:04.000 Because we know if the Democratic Party sided with them or the Democratic Party in its totality sided with them, they would literally be able to do whatever they wanted.

00:25:12.000 But we don't know that that's the case here.

00:25:14.000 Let me jump to the story from the post-millennial.

00:25:18.000 Mike Johnson threatens to withhold federal funds from Columbia U over Gaza camp while protesters scream, free Palestine.

00:25:27.000 If these campuses cannot get control of this problem, they do not deserve taxpayer dollars.

00:25:32.000 Are you kidding me?

00:25:35.000 It took Israel to get them to finally threaten to pull funding from corrupt universities that are in violation of the Civil Rights Act in so many ways, from racist policies and the DEI stuff to gender, sports, and issues.

00:25:52.000 But now that they protest Israel, Mike Johnson personally shows up and says, we're going to pull your funding.

00:25:59.000 Okay, good.

00:26:00.000 Please pull their funding.

00:26:01.000 I hope the protesters keep going now at this point, if it's the only way we're going to get universities to have their funding pulled.

00:26:07.000 No, it's completely insane.

00:26:08.000 How often is America, I mean, I won't even ask how often, I will just state as a fact, it is Required to trash the United States of America in order to have any kind of social life on a college campus, anywhere in this country, in order to maintain your position as a faculty member.

00:26:21.000 You have to, by default, to function in one of these institutions, hate the United States of America and say that you hate the United States of America.

00:26:27.000 And now that there are people saying that they hate Israel, we're going to talk about pulling funding?

00:26:31.000 These people have said they hate America for decades!

00:26:33.000 What was done about it?

00:26:34.000 The deep state must be reeling right now. 0.99

00:26:37.000 They fund all this woke garbage. 0.99

00:26:40.000 They put all this money into these alliances. 1.00

00:26:42.000 I warned this years ago.

00:26:44.000 I said, the Democrats trying to court the woke is it's the one ring and they think they're there.

00:26:51.000 I'm gonna get the name wrong and piss off Boromir, right?

00:26:53.000 Was that the guy who was like, it is a gift, you know, for us to use against our enemies.

00:26:58.000 And they're like, no, it can't be wielded.

00:26:59.000 You can't do it.

00:27:00.000 No one can.

00:27:01.000 And like, this is what they thought.

00:27:03.000 They thought we'll align ourselves with the woke left.

00:27:06.000 And then they love Tick Tock.

00:27:08.000 When Donald Trump was saying we got to do something about this, they were like, no,

00:27:10.000 no, we like Tick Tock because it was pushing their values.

00:27:14.000 And now that Tick Tock is pushing anti Israel and the young people are now staunchly anti

00:27:21.000 Israel and rising up in massive protest.

00:27:23.000 Now they're trying to pull funding from universities.

00:27:26.000 They are reaping what they have sown.

00:27:28.000 They funded this.

00:27:29.000 We warned them.

00:27:30.000 They allowed it to persist when we called for it to stop.

00:27:34.000 And now, and now they're mad.

00:27:36.000 I'm not going to cry about it.

00:27:37.000 I've got no sympathy for them.

00:27:38.000 I believe in America First.

00:27:39.000 I think we should secure our borders.

00:27:41.000 I think we need to bring back jobs into this country. 1.00

00:27:43.000 I think we need better trade agreements.

00:27:45.000 I think Donald Trump had it right.

00:27:47.000 He brought auto manufacturing back.

00:27:49.000 They wanted to get rid of him. 0.99

00:27:50.000 They wanted all this garbage. 1.00

00:27:51.000 They wanted the war. 0.99

00:27:52.000 And now their foreign policy is being risked.

00:27:55.000 I don't care about their foreign policy.

00:27:57.000 Israel's a country that can defend itself.

00:27:58.000 I agree with that, but I don't see why we're paying for it.

00:28:00.000 So if these people want to have a peaceful protest, I can criticize them when they're nasty and they're mean to Jewish people when they are, and that's fine. 0.99

00:28:07.000 But Mike Johnson to come out now and be like, we're gonna pull your funding.

00:28:09.000 I'm like, oh, this is great.

00:28:11.000 The deep state and the woke are fighting each other.

00:28:13.000 I'm gonna sit back and eat popcorn.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, why are we not ending federal backing of student loans, right?

00:28:18.000 Like, there are a lot of ways he could defund colleges, but instead he's only willing to act when it has to do with Israel.

00:28:25.000 It's not my favorite look, you know?

00:28:27.000 I have a question, because I went to San Diego State.

00:28:30.000 I feel like this is happening at all the Ivy League schools.

00:28:33.000 Do you guys think that there's some type of, like, positioning?

00:28:36.000 Like, if you go to an Ivy League school, you have to have, like, a position on this in order to I think Ivy League universities and a lot of small liberal arts institutions in the Northeast specifically prioritize recruiting students who had a leftist or progressive worldview and they also recruited and encouraged faculty that had a progressive leftist worldview.

00:29:07.000 You know, anecdotally, I went to SMU in Dallas, in Texas, and I did have some conservative professors.

00:29:13.000 There weren't a lot.

00:29:14.000 Typically, professors are overwhelmingly left-leaning in America.

00:29:18.000 Overwhelmingly.

00:29:19.000 And that's even more true in the Northeast, which tends to already be a left-leaning region.

00:29:23.000 And so I think it's twofold.

00:29:24.000 I think it's that the schools thought, It's a feather in their cap to have these students that are doing these things.

00:29:31.000 And you march for pro-abortion whatever in high school, and oh my gosh, you're for an open border?

00:29:37.000 Great!

00:29:38.000 This makes us look like we are this loving, welcoming institution.

00:29:41.000 We are leaning towards the left ideology that not only do our faculty have, but now we're encouraging it in our administrators.

00:29:47.000 And so it just became this echo chamber that did not expect.

00:29:51.000 Right, and it's like if a pebble hits your windshield and it shatters, right?

00:29:55.000 They didn't realize that there was any way for this to fall back on them in a way that was negative because they don't recognize that there are divisions within their own ideological culture.

00:30:03.000 And I think what you were saying about the BLM thing in 2020 being popular, like I remember Logan Paul jumped on it and all these influencers jumped on it because it was like, well, what's so bad about we just don't support racism and that's okay.

00:30:16.000 You know, there was a girl that I spoke to.

00:30:19.000 Her name is Lani Sarem.

00:30:20.000 She, I think it was 2017 or 2018, when the whole BLM thing was pretty big, she wrote a book and it was on the New York Times bestseller list, but it knocked down the number one book, which is like a CRT book, a BLM book.

00:30:34.000 And they took her off the New York Times, said she did shady practices. 0.99

00:30:39.000 She's the only person to ever be taken off the New York Times bestseller list.

00:30:42.000 It destroyed her life.

00:30:43.000 I mean, she told me she can't get a loan because people say she's a scam artist. 1.00

00:30:47.000 And I mean, we already know.

00:30:48.000 I think Abigail Schreier that wrote the book about the trans stuff that they won't put on the New York Times bestseller list. 0.71

00:30:56.000 Anyway, my point is that, you know, that that was everybody went after her because it was like, well, you must be racist because you've knocked off the CRT BLM book.

00:31:06.000 But she didn't do any of that, you know, so... Right. 0.99

00:31:09.000 But it was so much easier for people to jump on that trend.

00:31:11.000 And the New York Times bestseller list is biased anyways, I could be wrong, but it's not, like, generated by... 100%, they play all sorts of games.

00:31:16.000 Yeah, it's not like they, like, calculate the sales and say, oh, you've jumped, like... And she explained it to me, and... In fact... Oh, no, I just wanted to say that the way the New York Times leaves its bestsellers leaves me speechless.

00:31:27.000 By Michael Knowles, because his book was a bestseller, and then they didn't put it on the list.

00:31:31.000 Of course.

00:31:32.000 I'm not sure if they ever ended up doing that, or if that was ever remedied, but, yeah, they play all sorts of games.

00:31:37.000 Well, and they, if you, you're not supposed to buy your own books, basically, and so if they think that you did, like, let's say they thought you were having a conference and you bought, you know, a bunch of books to give away, all they do is they place a little dagger next to your name, and it basically, most people don't even know what that means.

00:31:51.000 Right.

00:31:51.000 But they actually took Lani off the list, and she had like 800 articles written about her, how she's this terrible person, and she actually did it the right way.

00:32:00.000 She went to like Comic-Cons and stuff, and they pre-sold all the books, so she didn't do it the shady way.

00:32:06.000 Anyway.

00:32:07.000 It's an editorial list.

00:32:08.000 But this is how people positioned, right?

00:32:10.000 It was like, well, I don't want to be racist, so I'm gonna support BLM, and that was okay, but this issue is a little bit different, because like you said, it's You're going to piss somebody off.

00:32:19.000 Right. It's it's it stops being I mean, there are conservatives who are split on this issue.

00:32:24.000 There's diversity in thought on the right as well. But I don't think anyone is sort of,

00:32:29.000 especially in progressive academia, expected there to be a difference because

00:32:33.000 they are out of sync with it's an age thing, in my opinion.

00:32:36.000 I think the older, a lot of older Democrats or people who identify as Democrat, they don't realize what's going on in these schools and they don't understand what the youth, how the youth has shifted on this issue.

00:32:47.000 And young people are removed from maybe concerns about antisemitism that plagues people of older generations.

00:32:54.000 And so they experience this conflict very differently.

00:32:57.000 The information they have about it is very different.

00:32:59.000 It's much more focused on Palestine.

00:33:01.000 And so it's just really interesting to me that, you know, you were asking, like, why is this happening in the Ivy League?

00:33:06.000 And I think it's because the Ivy League believes they set the tone for everything that happens in America, and it's just an example of this old institutional elitism that is actually a huge part of the Democratic Party.

00:33:16.000 That's what it is, elitism. 0.93

00:33:17.000 And this is a big part of the Democratic Party.

00:33:17.000 Right.

00:33:19.000 They're the ones who are like, oh, you have to go to college.

00:33:21.000 In fact, if you're going to go to college, you should go to the best college ever, the Ivy Leagues.

00:33:24.000 And while you're there, become indoctrinated.

00:33:26.000 Absolutely.

00:33:26.000 And I think you're absolutely right.

00:33:28.000 In many ways, this is a question of age.

00:33:31.000 I wouldn't even say it's so much the case that younger people don't like Israel.

00:33:35.000 That might be the case.

00:33:36.000 But I think younger people, at the very least, recognize that you can criticize a country's foreign policy without hating that country, because that's basically what everyone has been doing in their lives with respect to American foreign policy for the past 20 years or so.

00:33:51.000 And so, you know, in the same way that I can love America and say I don't love what we're doing overseas, anyone is equally entitled to say, okay, I don't necessarily dislike Israel, but I don't love their foreign policy or what they're doing. 0.65

00:34:05.000 And so, yeah, I think you're totally correct.

00:34:08.000 This is very much an issue of age.

00:34:11.000 It's an issue of outlook.

00:34:12.000 And also on top of that, I'll add this, people recognize there's like a third layer of not only can you criticize a country's foreign policy without disliking that country, but even if you do dislike that country, that does not mean that you dislike the dominant ethnic group within that country and harbor some kind of racial hatred towards them.

00:34:31.000 What about, like, the distrust in the media, too?

00:34:31.000 Right.

00:34:33.000 It's like, you don't know where to get the information anymore, and so you're, you know what I mean?

00:34:38.000 It's so hard.

00:34:39.000 It's like, can anybody just really explain to me what's going on with the media?

00:34:42.000 And the mediums where we're getting information are totally different.

00:34:44.000 I mean, you are probably the perfect person to talk about this, but the experience of someone

00:34:48.000 who consumes all of their news through Instagram, Facebook, TikTok is very different

00:34:53.000 than someone who experiences all their news on MSNBC or a traditional cable channel.

00:34:58.000 The ability to discern if an influencer is doing something for clout,

00:35:01.000 or like I see Montana Tucker, right?

00:35:03.000 I know her very well.

00:35:05.000 I think her grandfather was in the Holocaust.

00:35:07.000 And so she's speaking about her religion.

00:35:10.000 I understand why she's doing that.

00:35:13.000 Then there's other people that talk about politics and about these stories,

00:35:16.000 and they're doing it just straight for ego.

00:35:18.000 This is trending, so I'm gonna talk about it.

00:35:21.000 But the problem is people don't have enough information of like who are the good and bad actors out there.

00:35:26.000 It's just starting to get really difficult to figure out.

00:35:29.000 Do you think more influencers are moving into the news sphere to try and like capitalize on a election cycle or something like that?

00:35:36.000 Well, I'll tell you what, there's been a couple articles I read that conservative influencers are becoming more popular with brands, like brands are actually willing to work with conservative influencers.

00:35:47.000 And I think that has to do with the fact that, you know, it's not totally a, you know, career,

00:35:54.000 you know, suicide basically to talk about Trump anymore or talk about being a conservative.

00:35:59.000 There's like the full sun podcast, people like that.

00:36:02.000 So it's a little bit cooler, I guess.

00:36:05.000 And ultimately brands want to advertise with people that have a following that has adults,

00:36:13.000 right?

00:36:14.000 And in 2017, the bachelor people, they were the best because if they made an Instagram

00:36:19.000 ad, they're like QVC on steroids, right?

00:36:21.000 It's like females over the age of 25 in the US and Canada. 1.00

00:36:25.000 You want, I mean, Jake Paul and Logan Paul back when they were big, you have a bunch

00:36:29.000 of 13 year olds that don't have credit cards.

00:36:31.000 So you want to have a.

00:36:33.000 Uh, adult affluent people that are following you and because it's not so taboo to be conservative, I think we're getting there, uh, that obviously brands want to advertise with those people.

00:36:45.000 And so because of that, people are like, well, let's, you know, jump on the conservative.

00:36:51.000 Train.

00:36:52.000 I want to jump to the next story in the saga.

00:36:54.000 We have this from the Post Malone.

00:36:55.000 Harvard students erect anti-Israel liberated Gaza camp on campus.

00:37:00.000 The story here is actually the video, which I think is really interesting.

00:37:04.000 Take a look at this.

00:37:05.000 Let's see if we can make it a little bigger.

00:37:10.000 Running full speed.

00:37:11.000 Wow.

00:37:12.000 Quickly, as fast as they can, trying to set up tents.

00:37:15.000 The craziest camp out.

00:37:17.000 Yep.

00:37:18.000 Where is this?

00:37:19.000 It's Harvard.

00:37:20.000 Oh my gosh.

00:37:25.000 The more media coverage there is of this, the more it will spread to other parts of the country.

00:37:30.000 But I also want to show you this.

00:37:31.000 And this image, I think, gets into the heart of what we're seeing here and why they're doing what they're doing.

00:37:40.000 Ali London says, Palestinian activist appears to realize she has made a big mistake as she verges close to tears as Texas police handcuff her.

00:37:48.000 Take a look at this young college student.

00:37:50.000 I don't know how old she is.

00:37:51.000 She looks super young.

00:37:53.000 Super young, and she looks very distressed as she's being arrested. 0.98

00:37:57.000 She has no idea what she's protesting.

00:37:59.000 She's only heard surface-level things.

00:38:01.000 She is now being arrested, and the response from conservatives and the police is exactly what the cult was hoping for.

00:38:10.000 And I will explain very simply.

00:38:12.000 She is now angry and scared, not understanding why she's being arrested or what she did wrong.

00:38:18.000 She was told that she was fighting for the good guys.

00:38:21.000 The police came and arrested her.

00:38:23.000 Well, how can that be?

00:38:24.000 She's a good guy.

00:38:25.000 Well, it's because the police must be bad guys, right?

00:38:28.000 With that fear and anger, when she gets out of jail, and she will, overnight, and it'll be a slap on the wrist, they will then go to her, and not only will they say, see?

00:38:37.000 Look what the police do.

00:38:38.000 The police are bad.

00:38:40.000 You didn't even do anything wrong.

00:38:41.000 You're fighting for justice.

00:38:43.000 Aren't the police evil?

00:38:44.000 They'll direct her fear and anger, which THEY instigated, into her siding with them once more.

00:38:51.000 And then...

00:38:52.000 They will start to show her all of the posts from people on the right insulting her and laughing at her for being scared and crying, acting as though she had any idea what was going on.

00:39:02.000 And they'll say, see, look how evil the right is.

00:39:05.000 They're making fun of you while you were doing the right thing.

00:39:09.000 That is how the cult recruits.

00:39:11.000 So when they're storming campus, when you look at the comparison between the Summer of Love, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, and the anti-Israel stuff, and you're like, wow, it sure is very similar, it's all just cult building.

00:39:21.000 There's no moral issue they care about.

00:39:24.000 There's a funny meme I saw where it's, you know the meme of the military guy putting his arms out, protecting the kid?

00:39:29.000 It's the military guy going like this, and it's like, protesters, and then the kid in the bed says, the Middle East and the bombs and the knives are still falling on the kid because the guy's nowhere near the kid.

00:39:38.000 And that's a good point.

00:39:39.000 And then you wonder, what are they doing?

00:39:42.000 What is their goal?

00:39:43.000 Their goal is to recruit people into their cult who view this country as morally corrupt and evil and wrong.

00:39:55.000 That woman will now become an anti-police activist more so than she really was or ever was. 0.93

00:40:00.000 We've acknowledged on this show that most of these people have no idea what they're protesting.

00:40:04.000 We then see a woman like this getting arrested, who's scared and has no idea what's going on. 1.00

00:40:08.000 The response should be not to make fun of her, but to be like,

00:40:12.000 these people are tricking you to get you arrested, to make you angry,

00:40:17.000 to entrench you in a world that will cause you harm. We don't want that for you.

00:40:22.000 I don't think we on this show are influential nearly enough to actually have that message

00:40:27.000 for someone like her, but maybe those who listen might realize this, because I got to tell you,

00:40:31.000 you know, even Ali London saying she appears to realize she made a big mistake as she verges

00:40:36.000 close to tears. Even Even that.

00:40:39.000 Like, imagine you are walking down the street and some guy says, hey, do you want to march for, uh, freedom?

00:40:46.000 And you go, yeah.

00:40:47.000 And you start marching down the street.

00:40:48.000 Next thing you know, you're getting arrested and you're freaking out.

00:40:50.000 And all of these people are now laughing at you and pointing their fingers at you.

00:40:54.000 You'd be mad at them.

00:40:55.000 You'd be stressed.

00:40:56.000 You'd be scared.

00:40:57.000 You'd be like, why are they attacking me?

00:40:58.000 Why are they insulting me?

00:40:59.000 That's how they make the cult bigger.

00:41:02.000 Yeah, well, I remember with Kyle Rittenhouse, like, you know, that happened about like, I don't know, a year or two after I got like canceled in the New York Times.

00:41:10.000 So I already I wasn't political.

00:41:11.000 And then I just started watching that though.

00:41:15.000 And it's like, that's kind of what got me to change my beliefs and be like, this is kind of more important to be.

00:41:22.000 I guess leaning on the right because I saw how they twisted that story and a lot of people probably went the other way right when they first saw all the news about the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff and how he he killed these people that were peacefully protesting or I don't know you know what the whole narrative was but I think a lot of people probably got on the other side similarly.

00:41:42.000 There were influencers that, you know, I knew of because of non-political, you know, like lifestyle or whatever content, who when the Kyle Brittenhouse verdict came out, they were like, nobody talked to me about this.

00:41:51.000 He killed innocent black people and this and that, which is like not true.

00:41:54.000 That's not what happened. 0.91

00:41:55.000 I watched every day of the trial because that is real news, right?

00:41:59.000 That's a real trial that's happening.

00:42:00.000 Nobody can twist the narrative and you could watch the lawyers discussing it.

00:42:04.000 There were people who had an emotional reaction to the story and then closed their ears to any of the details, right?

00:42:08.000 They already knew how they We're going to feel about it because of a false narrative.

00:42:13.000 It's hard to comment on this picture because, you know, I don't know the video or what else is going on there, but I do think that there are people who will say, like, this just makes me want to double down more.

00:42:23.000 Like, I will just become even more disenfranchised and it will drive a certain level of, like, well, I got arrested at this protest so now I should do something even bigger because, you know, this confirms my suspicion that the cops are bad and This is a known tactic for anybody who's been to the, what do they call them, excuse me, direct action meetings.

00:42:45.000 They have described in the past as like three different tiers.

00:42:49.000 The direct action activists will meet in secret and it'll be like five or six people that are organizing the protest and they intentionally will be like, you know, no one can know what we talk about, don't bring your phone.

00:43:02.000 What they want is They're the instigators.

00:43:05.000 Well, the organizers and the instigators. 0.99

00:43:07.000 They want as many young, dumb college kids to form the mass of the protest. 0.97

00:43:13.000 They need critical mass. 0.99

00:43:15.000 Then they have people who directly instigate, and then they're the ones who are orchestrating everything behind the scenes.

00:43:20.000 The goal being, their friends, who are given the instructions, will throw things at cops, They'll wait for the normies, who are like, yay, I'm marching, to be in a situation where the cops are agitated.

00:43:33.000 They will then walk into the middle of the crowd, crouch down, and throw a water bottle high up in the air so that it lands on a cop.

00:43:39.000 The cops then say, okay, illegal assembly, disperse or you're under arrest. 0.94

00:43:44.000 And then these dumb college kids who have no idea what's going on find themselves being shoved, being hit. 0.98

00:43:49.000 It's panic and chaos. 0.99

00:43:50.000 Then there's a mass arrest.

00:43:52.000 And then while they're in jail, freaking out, being like, what am I going to do?

00:43:55.000 My parents are going to be so mad.

00:43:57.000 The cultists who organize it are there and they say, let's sing songs together to get through this.

00:44:03.000 I'm not kidding.

00:44:03.000 So they do.

00:44:05.000 In jail, when there's 50 to 100 people, they'll say, hey, everyone, sing along.

00:44:09.000 Build a community.

00:44:11.000 Yep.

00:44:11.000 Building a connection.

00:44:12.000 Then when these young people like freaking out and crying and mostly younger women. 0.99

00:44:17.000 They're hugging them and saying, take my number, call me if you need anything, you should totally hang out with us, we're gonna make sure you're okay, now we'll sing songs.

00:44:26.000 Makes sense.

00:44:27.000 And then after this, they get out and they say, see, we were the good guys the whole time, we kept you safe.

00:44:31.000 Even though they were the ones who orchestrated the arrest intentionally to Cause panic in these young people.

00:44:38.000 Now, I want to say, from what I know, this chick punched a cop. 1.00

00:44:41.000 I have no idea.

00:44:42.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:42.000 I don't know why she's being arrested.

00:44:43.000 It is easy to manipulate people that don't have the experience or the background to also see how this is going to affect them in the future.

00:44:50.000 Like when you're young, you think that you're the best, that nothing could happen to you.

00:44:54.000 You could be reckless.

00:44:55.000 And then when you realize that there's consequences to these things, you know, you obviously are wanting the support group, right?

00:45:02.000 You want to lean towards anybody that's willing to help you.

00:45:06.000 So, I could see that.

00:45:07.000 Right.

00:45:08.000 And I think it's in part because activism became sort of glamorized, especially over the last couple years.

00:45:14.000 There was a level of being able to say, like, I went out and I think about what was the Women's March after Trump was inaugurated, and they were like, I can't tell you how many girls I knew were like, and this is my, we stayed up all night making posters, like, check it out.

00:45:28.000 It became sort of this trendy thing to do, but there are very serious consequences to going to protests, especially when you don't actually know everyone who's involved in this and what their intentions are.

00:45:38.000 And that's one of the problems with it happening on a university campus.

00:45:41.000 I mean, you know, if you're in college, you're probably over 18, you're an adult, so you're responsible for your actions.

00:45:46.000 It is interesting that generally we are all acknowledging that this is something they're doing because it's like, oh, well, everyone else I know is going to this thing.

00:45:54.000 I don't know how many of them are actually super rabidly dedicated to the cause.

00:45:58.000 Yeah, do you guys, have you, is there a cause that has ever made you want to go protest or want in your lifetime?

00:46:05.000 War.

00:46:07.000 But I don't think it's effective.

00:46:09.000 I think it's meaningless and I think it's manipulative.

00:46:11.000 So I was, I was protesting in the 2000s when I was a teenager.

00:46:15.000 And then of course they're like, the answer is Obama.

00:46:18.000 He's, he's going to change everything.

00:46:19.000 They just blew up kids, so.

00:46:21.000 What about you?

00:46:22.000 Oh, no, there hasn't been anything.

00:46:25.000 I mean, like I said, I'm sort of new into even caring, which is, you know, I'm not proud of that, but at least now I'm being awakened.

00:46:34.000 You know, we were talking about the red pill term.

00:46:37.000 I think it's taken a different meaning now, but in terms of just kind of being awakened to how things really work.

00:46:45.000 It's partially because of what happened to me, and I'm like, oh, this is how the New York Times operates, this is how America operates.

00:46:50.000 I mean, when I was younger, my cousin, she lives in Mexico, she said, it's so cool that you live in America because you're able to be an entrepreneur and start a business.

00:47:01.000 And she's like, you know, in Mexico, It's so corrupt and people, if you mess with somebody that has power or if you start a business and it's successful and knocks out somebody big, they'll just literally burn your business down, you know. 1.00

00:47:15.000 Hypothetically, what's the word? 0.90

00:47:16.000 They'll do it. 0.76

00:47:17.000 They'll actually burn it down or whatever.

00:47:19.000 And so, but so when I lived in America, I'm thinking like, oh, this doesn't happen in America.

00:47:23.000 But now I'm starting to see I mean, I think things don't happen in America, quote-unquote, because people are – we're supposed to theoretically have laws in a culture that prevent these things, but, you know, if you have – There's still corruption, though, is what I'm saying.

00:47:38.000 It's just not as obvious.

00:47:38.000 Yeah, and I think corruption becomes more rampant as all parts of culture fall apart, right?

00:47:43.000 Like, if you don't have a strong – if you don't have a strong share of ethics and morals, People's behavior becomes more and more self-serving and corrupt on every level, both in terms of government or business or anything else.

00:47:57.000 And it's why when I, you know, the image of the girl who's getting arrested, like there is probably a level where even if she did something terrible at this thing, she feels justified in what she's doing.

00:48:08.000 And there is a level where people who are involved have a different sense of right and wrong because they feel justified in their actions.

00:48:14.000 We're going to jump to the next story because I'm going to disagree with you on this one.

00:48:17.000 Go for it.

00:48:17.000 Only a little bit.

00:48:18.000 But here's a story from the Postmillennial.

00:48:20.000 I wish I was more educated.

00:48:21.000 Anti-Israel activists at NYU Gaza Camp admit they don't know why they are protesting.

00:48:27.000 Okay, look.

00:48:28.000 These are just two women. 1.00

00:48:29.000 It's not indicative of the entire ideology of every single person there, but this is going massively viral.

00:48:35.000 And let me play the... And what would you say is the main goal with tonight's protest?

00:48:40.000 I think the goal is just showing our support for Palestine and demanding that NYU stop.

00:48:45.000 I honestly don't know.

00:48:47.000 Is there something that NYU's doing?

00:48:49.000 I really don't know.

00:48:50.000 I'm pretty sure they're... Do you know what NYU's doing?

00:48:52.000 About what?

00:48:53.000 It's about Israel.

00:48:54.000 Why are we protesting here at NYU?

00:48:56.000 I wish I was more educated.

00:48:59.000 I'm not either.

00:49:01.000 I came from Columbia.

00:49:03.000 I was there up at Columbia and we came down.

00:49:05.000 They said NYU's convinced we need our support.

00:49:08.000 So I came down.

00:49:09.000 I heard there's lots of cops.

00:49:10.000 Some people were saying it was getting dangerous.

00:49:12.000 But does she know why Columbia's protesting?

00:49:14.000 No, because they're not protesting anything.

00:49:16.000 I know, it's so funny.

00:49:17.000 It is the cause to latch onto and bored college kids who are part of a cult come out and do this.

00:49:24.000 That being said, there are legitimate criticisms of Israel that people have with how they've been handling the war, with whether they're going to go into Rafah or not.

00:49:31.000 That I totally get.

00:49:32.000 With the civilian deaths, I think, the total deaths have been reported.

00:49:38.000 By numerous agencies, and I don't know how legit these numbers are, 34,000, and they lump civilians and militants in together, so I think one estimate is around 23,000 or so civilian deaths.

00:49:50.000 There's a lot of things you can be upset about, and you're allowed to be.

00:49:52.000 You're allowed to be mad at Hamas.

00:49:54.000 You're allowed to be mad at Israel. 0.85

00:49:55.000 Those are okay, and there are people there who are.

00:49:57.000 But most of the people there, I would be willing to bet, have no idea what they're there for.

00:50:02.000 But, like, this reminds me of, like, remember those Jimmy Kimmel men on the street?

00:50:06.000 They would ask you something like, who's the vice president?

00:50:09.000 But the people like that will never make fun of this because it's so polarizing. 0.92

00:50:14.000 It's like it will never be a thing where it should be kind of made fun of that you, if you go protest something that you don't even know about, that that's ridiculous. 0.80

00:50:23.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:50:24.000 And there are – I mean, I watched this interview with a protester at Columbia and she's like, we want the school to divest from Israel and anything they do that has to do with Israel.

00:50:32.000 And there's a level where maybe they can't totally articulate because the next thing she says is like, and then we want them to divest into something else, something better.

00:50:40.000 And she can't really say what that is.

00:50:43.000 Again, it's sort of this thing about youth.

00:50:45.000 They want action.

00:50:46.000 They want it now, but they're not really sure what the action is.

00:50:48.000 In this case, it's causing a lot of chaos and destruction for people who don't have a clear set of demands.

00:50:54.000 This is why, you know, you asked earlier if there was, like, a cause I'd be willing to protest for.

00:50:57.000 And, you know, back in the day, it was war stuff.

00:50:59.000 But, uh, any well-intentioned person who can pay attention to what's going on quickly realizes that is not the vehicle for getting change.

00:51:06.000 And I'll give you a good example, one of my favorite stories and, uh, recurring circumstances from Occupy Wall Street.

00:51:11.000 They liked to march around chanting, Antica Pitalista.

00:51:15.000 Anti-capitalist.

00:51:16.000 And they would go, ah, auntie, Antica Pitalista.

00:51:19.000 If you didn't know what they were saying, because it's not English, then what would you do?

00:51:24.000 And I remember I was filming and there was some guy who was going, who was chanting.

00:51:29.000 And he was going, ah, ah B, David Estebadista.

00:51:32.000 He had no idea what he was saying.

00:51:34.000 And I immediately turned the camera and I was like, hey, what were you chanting?

00:51:37.000 And he's like, oh, I'm chanting with the group.

00:51:38.000 And I was like, yeah, what did you say?

00:51:39.000 And he goes, oh, I just, you know, I don't know.

00:51:42.000 He's marching with the group, trying to sound out what they're saying with having no idea what it was.

00:51:47.000 The dude did not know he was chanting a Marxist slogan.

00:51:50.000 Because many of these people, you're on a march, and you're told the purpose of it is the big banks got bailed out and they screwed over the working class.

00:51:59.000 And these young people are like, wow, yeah, that's bad.

00:52:01.000 Okay, now come chant Marxist slogans.

00:52:04.000 But they don't tell you that.

00:52:05.000 They just start chanting these things, get you to chant them, you have no idea what's going on.

00:52:09.000 Once again you can see it's the same old same old.

00:52:12.000 Do you think it has anything maybe to do with too like the time that we live in that everybody's so hyper online people are so disconnected from like a community of feeling like they belong and so maybe these like protests is like oh I get to like be around people and interact and and like a sense of community maybe?

00:52:31.000 I don't know.

00:52:32.000 It's something to do.

00:52:32.000 People always yeah I mean people are always going to want a sense of community.

00:52:36.000 That's just part of who we are.

00:52:38.000 And what we're seeing here, and what you saw at Occupy, it's actually pretty normal historically.

00:52:43.000 We look at the American Revolution, or even something like the Russian Revolution, and you see those and you think, oh well, I guess in Russia everyone who was revolting just wanted communism, and in the American colonies everyone revolting just wanted a constitutional democracy.

00:53:01.000 But that's not true.

00:53:02.000 People in both circumstances were revolting because they weren't happy with present circumstances.

00:53:06.000 It just happened that certain factions are more organized and were able to use people's distaste with the current system for their own motivation.

00:53:16.000 And for better or for worse, right?

00:53:18.000 And there's a reason I use two different examples, and it's because sometimes it's really bad and sometimes it's really good, but the reality is when a large group of people get together because they have agreements, they almost never agree on a solution.

00:53:30.000 And it tends to be a small, organized minority that proposes and implements a solution.

00:53:36.000 Usually it's actually disastrous.

00:53:38.000 Usually it's actually disastrous.

00:53:40.000 But every once in a while, in history, we have examples of the people who rise to the top actually having good ideas.

00:53:46.000 So what do you guys think happens with these protests?

00:53:48.000 Like, you know, you mentioned, we talked about this earlier, Columbia's semester is about to end, you know, theoretically, student populations actually disperse from the campuses, they won't have the same critical mass that they do right now.

00:53:58.000 Like, does this movement just sort of last through the summer?

00:54:01.000 Or is it going to be the next couple weeks really intense, and then go away?

00:54:06.000 Well, I think, what did Columbia has given them an extended deadline saying they're allowed to stay?

00:54:12.000 Yeah, they were initially they broke down part of the camp and then they're sort of going back and forth negotiating.

00:54:16.000 Yeah, saying they're not going to call National Guard and they're not going to call NYPD to clear the Gaza camp. 0.85

00:54:20.000 And it's already been over.

00:54:21.000 I mean, NYU basically built a border wall around one of the places that they had that protesters had assembled.

00:54:27.000 But again, like I said, these student populations are transient, typically.

00:54:31.000 They're not on campus during the summer.

00:54:32.000 Are they all students, too, or is it just like anybody that wants to?

00:54:36.000 Yeah, that's a really good question, actually.

00:54:36.000 That's a good question.

00:54:37.000 And if they had a big enough encampment, theoretically, more students could be like, yeah, my school's not doing anything.

00:54:42.000 I'm out for the summer.

00:54:43.000 I'm coming to your encampment over at UT Austin or whatever.

00:54:46.000 There was a...

00:54:48.000 An interview on Fox where they asked some guy about what he thought.

00:54:50.000 He was a Columbia student.

00:54:51.000 He's like, I don't know enough about any of it to have an opinion.

00:54:54.000 I just think it's wrong that they're arresting protesters.

00:54:57.000 And it's like, there's the virtue signal.

00:54:59.000 Even the people there who are like, I don't know what's going on.

00:55:00.000 No, this is the student body.

00:55:03.000 If you speak out against them, you have shunned yourself at this whole university on TV.

00:55:08.000 So yeah, you don't do that.

00:55:10.000 That being said, I don't see Columbia Deciding to eliminate their customer base.

00:55:19.000 If they, like, this is, this is, it's not so much like, you know, with Occupy Wall Street or BLM, you have protesters in an area with an autonomous zone or something.

00:55:28.000 They have to make a decision about whether or not they want the political backlash, whether or not it's going to escalate the protests, who knows?

00:55:33.000 These are Columbia's paying customers.

00:55:35.000 So what do you do?

00:55:36.000 Do you kick them out and then lose paying customers?

00:55:40.000 What do you think about Bill Ackman and the stuff that he, like, I guess they were like exposing certain students that were on a list or something or that had put their names on a list.

00:55:40.000 Interesting.

00:55:49.000 Do you guys know about that or no?

00:55:50.000 Yeah, there was a letter that was signed a long time, a while ago.

00:55:53.000 I think this was last year.

00:55:54.000 Right after the attacks in October.

00:55:56.000 Yeah, right.

00:55:57.000 And it was a letter in support, effectively of, or it was critical of Israel.

00:56:01.000 And I don't remember the exact details, but I think it had support for Palestine, conflated as support for Hamas.

00:56:08.000 It may have overlapped.

00:56:09.000 And then these billionaires basically said... They outed them, right?

00:56:13.000 Or they outed the people that signed it?

00:56:14.000 No, the people who signed it, publicly signed it.

00:56:16.000 Oh, okay, okay.

00:56:17.000 They said, we're now no longer going to hire any of you.

00:56:19.000 And then they all panicked and started apologizing, saying we didn't realize what we signed.

00:56:19.000 Oh, that's right.

00:56:22.000 I guess it comes down to what is the accountability for the people that are doing this.

00:56:26.000 If there's no accountability, or if they're actually doing something bad, then nothing will happen.

00:56:32.000 Or if people actually went BLM, they were like burning things down and all that kind of stuff, and there was still no accountability for that.

00:56:39.000 What do we do about this?

00:56:43.000 First of all, it's Columbia, so I'm kind of like, Columbia can do what Columbia wants.

00:56:47.000 If people who go to the school are being discriminated against, and it's overt discrimination, then I think we've got a civil rights violation.

00:56:53.000 And then that actually becomes a matter which the public gets involved in.

00:56:56.000 Right.

00:56:57.000 But if Columbia has private grounds where you can pay to go to Columbia and then they decide to do what they want, I will just laugh.

00:57:04.000 I have no sympathy for the people who fomented this.

00:57:06.000 You know, you've got that one professor, that Jewish professor, and I'm just like, Look, man, y'all are part of these institutions that have pushed this ideology while we've been screaming, stop pushing this ideology, and now they're like, oh no, I've caught fire with the thing I've been creating. 0.86

00:57:22.000 Okay, sorry, I guess.

00:57:24.000 Good luck.

00:57:25.000 Yeah, it's again, I think these institutions are really seeing the fruits of their labor, so to speak, right?

00:57:33.000 They specifically wanted and encouraged left-wing progressive, even at times radical, ideology in faculty, students, and staff.

00:57:41.000 And at a certain point, they are now facing the product of their own making.

00:57:47.000 I think one of the Things that I'm curious about.

00:57:50.000 And again, for me, it's really interesting that all the semesters are coming to an end and what will this turn into?

00:57:56.000 Because I think a lot of... I wouldn't be surprised if the conversation behind closed doors among administrators is, we just kind of have to wait this out until they move out for the summer.

00:58:04.000 Unless the administrators are like, it's really good this is happening.

00:58:08.000 Let's not let anyone realize how much we hate Israel, too.

00:58:10.000 I think there are... I mean, like, there are professors that have come out in support of these protests.

00:58:10.000 Right.

00:58:14.000 Like, it's just...

00:58:15.000 It is internal chaos.

00:58:17.000 And for me, because I think the university system is really off base of what traditional universities should be, it's sort of good to have them have to re-examine their priorities and their own standards for one another.

00:58:30.000 I just don't know that people who have created and cultivated progressive academia have ever considered the fact that they would eat themselves one day.

00:58:43.000 Let's jump to the next story.

00:58:44.000 This is big news.

00:58:45.000 From NPR, President Biden signs law to ban TikTok nationwide unless it's sold.

00:58:52.000 And it wasn't just that.

00:58:54.000 The bill also gives $95 billion in aid to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan.

00:58:59.000 You literally, you can't do anything without giving billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine.

00:59:03.000 It's crazy how they're all linked, you know?

00:59:05.000 Yeah, that'd be funny.

00:59:05.000 Exactly.

00:59:06.000 It's like, we have a bill to provide school lunches to children and give seven billion dollars to Ukraine.

00:59:11.000 It's everything, all the time.

00:59:12.000 And then when you vote against it, they're like, so you don't want kids to eat lunch?

00:59:15.000 Exactly.

00:59:15.000 Crazy.

00:59:16.000 Is this the same bill that was like, last month it was passed through one?

00:59:20.000 Yes.

00:59:21.000 Okay.

00:59:22.000 And I didn't hear that much about the Ukraine and... Well, they put them in one bill.

00:59:29.000 And that was to basically guarantee all these things pass because Congress is corrupt and it's what they do.

00:59:37.000 But the component we have here is that TikTok will now be banned unless it's sold.

00:59:42.000 And so this is really funny.

00:59:44.000 I love this.

00:59:45.000 So the reason why TikTok is facing a ban is because of Israel. 0.90

00:59:49.000 It's because a couple years ago, Donald Trump wanted to ban TikTok because it's pushing far left ideology and things like this.

00:59:56.000 But the argument was, oh, it's stealing your data, which I mean, it's taking your data and it's giving it to the Chinese Communist Party in essence, I suppose.

01:00:05.000 And the Democrats were like, no, no, don't.

01:00:07.000 We won't ban it.

01:00:08.000 The Supreme Court blocked it.

01:00:09.000 Then October 7th happened and a bunch of content was pro-Israel on TikTok and then a week later it shifted heavily into pro-Israel.

01:00:17.000 Many suggested that meant there was an algorithm.

01:00:20.000 It was weighted.

01:00:21.000 It was pushing pro-Palestinian content.

01:00:24.000 Or it could have been organized groups were manipulating TikTok to do this.

01:00:28.000 All of a sudden, Democrats now get on board with banning TikTok.

01:00:31.000 Why?

01:00:32.000 Well, donors started calling them.

01:00:33.000 I mean, this is all true.

01:00:34.000 This is all public knowledge.

01:00:35.000 It's in numerous interviews.

01:00:38.000 Large donors who are Jewish and pro-Israel, so even evangelicals, were calling TikTok, I'm sorry, were calling Democrats not TikTok, and saying, why are you allowing this app to indoctrinate young people in this way?

01:00:50.000 Democrats then got on board.

01:00:52.000 But my favorite thing about it is all of that is public and true.

01:00:55.000 And it's like I've tweeted it probably 12 times.

01:00:58.000 But these these Israel derangement syndrome people are like, whoa, look at Tim.

01:01:02.000 He's waking up.

01:01:03.000 He's figuring it out.

01:01:04.000 And I'm like, maybe you should have watched the show when they literally announced it.

01:01:07.000 That's exactly what we said when we had the news.

01:01:09.000 But this could mean the end of TikTok.

01:01:11.000 And I'm for it.

01:01:12.000 Don't care.

01:01:13.000 Sorry.

01:01:13.000 Let me show you this tweet from Nuance Bro.

01:01:16.000 He says, I'm going to be petty about this.

01:01:19.000 TikTok banned me about two years ago.

01:01:21.000 It allegedly wasn't even due to my content.

01:01:23.000 They apparently thought I was someone impersonating myself or something.

01:01:26.000 I offered to do whatever verification they needed so they could verify that I indeed myself, but they refused and they said the decision was final.

01:01:32.000 Pretty sure they just look for any excuse to ban people that aren't leftists, but at the end of the day, it's looking like I'll get the last laugh.

01:01:39.000 If they didn't ban me, maybe I'd join others in calling for TikTok not to get banned, but they want to engage in some of the worst censorship of any platform, and then cry about the government doing the same to them.

01:01:48.000 Sorry, I have no sympathy.

01:01:50.000 And I actually agree with Nuance Bro.

01:01:52.000 Now, Lisa Elizabeth, Lisa Reynolds, who actually works here, says, this might be a low IQ post laughing emoji, but- But thanks 1n0 on Lisa.

01:01:59.000 But I'll stress, TimCast IRL was banned, and it was because in one segment we were discussing data that showed women in the workplace have the highest rates of depression for all female demographics.

01:02:15.000 So like single mothers, married with children, and married with children in the workplace, not working. 1.00

01:02:21.000 Women who are at work had higher rates of depression compared to all other groups, in any capacity.

01:02:27.000 Simply for showing the data, banned.

01:02:30.000 And then they make, and it's not the first time either.

01:02:33.000 They ban you and you can make a new account.

01:02:35.000 And so we've been restricted and censored.

01:02:37.000 And I'm telling you, perhaps it is personal bias, but we know that TikTok is pushing like creepy progressive propaganda.

01:02:46.000 You're right about that.

01:02:46.000 They allow some conservative stuff on there, but it is pressure release valve stuff.

01:02:52.000 So there's been a lot of people who are like, no, there's conservative content on TikTok, I don't understand.

01:02:55.000 I'm like, yes.

01:02:55.000 And what they're doing is, 60% is leftist and 40% is conservative.

01:03:00.000 That way conservatives feel like they're still here, but they're intentionally suppressing the right and making sure that the left gets front and center stage so that young people lose their mind and cause themselves harm.

01:03:11.000 I don't think that should be allowed.

01:03:13.000 And although it's bad that they've got warrantless wiretapping on us, that shouldn't be allowed either.

01:03:18.000 I'd rather have the United States government spying on me than the Chinese government, because at the very least I can file FOIA requests, I can file lawsuits. 0.75

01:03:26.000 It's extremely difficult to go up against the U.S.

01:03:27.000 government and their surveillance apparatus, but it's impossible to go up against China.

01:03:31.000 So I'll take what I can get.

01:03:32.000 But I actually agree with NuanceBro.

01:03:35.000 TikTok is the most censorious platform followed by Facebook.

01:03:40.000 They are the worst.

01:03:41.000 And Instagram.

01:03:42.000 And I'm supposed to shed a tear for TikTok now that they might get banned unless they sell to U.S.

01:03:48.000 interests?

01:03:49.000 Sorry, Crimea River.

01:03:50.000 Also, I just want to mention one thing.

01:03:52.000 I do think it's hilarious that they have the option to sell to American interests or to an American company as if that would ever do anything to eliminate the Chinese influence.

01:04:02.000 I mean, so much of corporate America is at the beck and call of the CCP.

01:04:07.000 Sure.

01:04:07.000 Like, of course, it would be better if they were owned by an American company.

01:04:10.000 But at this point, I'm just saying, I think it's great to get rid of it.

01:04:13.000 I think it's great to get rid of it.

01:04:16.000 I'm not I'm thrilled that that clause is even in there.

01:04:19.000 If it's sold to U.S.

01:04:20.000 interests, the content will be moderately similar. 1.00

01:04:23.000 Woke, far-left, psychotic garbage. 0.95

01:04:26.000 However, it will be a bit more difficult to censor because we will have the ability to sue the owners who are Americans. 1.00

01:04:33.000 Good luck suing China. 1.00

01:04:35.000 Yeah.

01:04:36.000 No, they ban you, they ban you. 1.00

01:04:37.000 And now you've got the CEO being like, 175 million Americans are using this app.

01:04:41.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's a case for you getting No, exactly.

01:04:45.000 You're explaining how widespread the problem is.

01:04:47.000 China would never. 0.82

01:04:48.000 They would never allow this.

01:04:50.000 China doesn't allow the US to run companies in its country.

01:04:54.000 Why would we allow China to have ownership control or a stake or a board seat in any capacity that has such a massive influence on our economy, let alone the minds of our young people? 0.71

01:05:04.000 Yuri Bezmenov, is he still alive?

01:05:06.000 He's not alive, right?

01:05:07.000 I don't know.

01:05:07.000 He's the former KGB fellow?

01:05:08.000 He's alive?

01:05:10.000 Okay, I was gonna say he's spinning in his grave, so now he's spinning his rocking chair, then.

01:05:13.000 He's rocking in his chair!

01:05:15.000 But no, I would agree with you.

01:05:18.000 The Chinese government is not in any way a fan of the United States of America, and we know that they understand the way we think way better than we understand the way that they think. 0.85

01:05:29.000 No, no, he died a long time ago.

01:05:30.000 He died 30 years ago.

01:05:31.000 Yes, sir.

01:05:32.000 So he's spinning in his grave.

01:05:36.000 China has done things like stood in solidarity with George Floyd and the BLM riots and called the American system racist, even though, like, in order to sell Star Wars films in China, Disney has to decrease the size of black actors and their posters, right? 0.51

01:05:50.000 China's a very racist country, but they also know that racism is something that really tugs at the heartstrings of Americans and that Americans care about.

01:05:57.000 They know our buzzwords, yeah.

01:05:58.000 Exactly.

01:05:59.000 They know how to manipulate us.

01:06:00.000 The fact that they know how to manipulate us so well, and They're running this service, this social media service, that millions of Americans are using.

01:06:10.000 Yeah, it should give people cause.

01:06:13.000 And I think, again, it's an argument for banning it to, say, 174 million Americans, whatever the numbers are using it.

01:06:19.000 There's a sort of salty post on Axios right now pointing out that the Biden administration, or the Biden re-election campaign, is continuing to be active on TikTok, even though he just signed this bill.

01:06:28.000 Oh, really?

01:06:29.000 Yeah!

01:06:30.000 It's one of these things that, you know, We talked about Palestine a little bit and there's a division between young left-leaning or progressive voters and older left voters, but I almost wonder if being the president that banned TikTok is going to be just another way that Biden loses the youth vote right now.

01:06:48.000 I am not necessarily saying that he shouldn't have signed it or that the TikTok ban is bad, I just think that like It is surprising to me that Joe Biden who's trying to be like the cool hip grandpa is now taking away TikTok from these people he's trying to court during an election year.

01:07:02.000 I'm a little torn because I've obviously I basically in 2019 it was when Musical.ly turned into TikTok.

01:07:11.000 It's that's when I was representing the biggest tiktokers in the world. 1.00

01:07:15.000 I represented Charlie D'Amelio, Addison Rae, Charlie, I think, and her sister make $17 million a year.

01:07:23.000 And they were just called, you know, high school kids that basically blew up overnight.

01:07:28.000 But to see how quickly tiktok has become drunk with power, it seems like I remember in 2019, they were just so happy if I referred them a celebrity that would get on and they would verify just about anybody. And now you're seeing that they,

01:07:46.000 and over the years I've seen this, that they are, they do like events for only black creators.

01:07:50.000 They do events for only LGBTQ and you know, it's, it's very woke in the sense of that. And then even in the

01:07:58.000 beginning, there was like in 2019, there was people I represented that,

01:08:03.000 you know, if they, if they danced in a bikini, they,

01:08:05.000 they would get banned or they would get you weren't allowed to go live for a

01:08:09.000 couple of weeks. And so what happens is like, people start to follow the rules, right? You fall in line.

01:08:13.000 Okay, well, I guess I can't post with my shirt off or, you know, with,

01:08:16.000 even if you're a guy, so they, they fall in line, but then they also see, okay,

01:08:21.000 well, you know, conservatives can't get verified on their.

01:08:25.000 Like Joe Pags, he's a big time radio host.

01:08:28.000 He has tons of followers and tons of views.

01:08:30.000 And he's like, I can't get verified on TikTok for whatever reason.

01:08:33.000 And then Evie magazine, Brittany was messaging me because I used to have an in over there.

01:08:38.000 Now they don't really pick up my call as much, but I do.

01:08:41.000 No, no, TikTok.

01:08:43.000 Evie asked me for help because they were they're not able to advertise their I guess it's like anti birth control program or I don't know if it's I don't know what it is.

01:08:55.000 They were selling something that was doing well on TikTok.

01:08:57.000 And now they got kicked off of the of the shop.

01:09:00.000 And I think it's because like either the Washington Post or whoever called in and was like, why is this on TikTok?

01:09:07.000 And then they just shut you down.

01:09:08.000 I mean, I had a direct access.

01:09:10.000 Everybody was nice to me at TikTok.

01:09:11.000 And then Taylor Runs writes a bad article and I can't get one person on the phone.

01:09:16.000 So it's very much of a class system with the social media things.

01:09:20.000 And like, Tim, you're talking about you're experiencing it with YouTube.

01:09:23.000 I mean, So many people, I think it's like 86% of people, 13 to 38, want to become content creators.

01:09:30.000 Think about what a big population is that.

01:09:33.000 And then you're talking about who controls it.

01:09:35.000 Facebook or, you know, Meta, TikTok, there's only, it's all these monopolies.

01:09:40.000 And I've been paying attention to David Sachs.

01:09:43.000 So he has the opposite opinion.

01:09:45.000 And I do sort of think it's important to listen to guys like that.

01:09:48.000 He's a VC guy.

01:09:50.000 He invested in like Facebook, Uber, Airbnb, Smart guy talking to all the people at the top and, you know, he's very much against the TikTok ban.

01:10:00.000 So I don't know.

01:10:01.000 I don't really know.

01:10:02.000 I definitely and then there's a girl that was saying that they're going to start doing class action lawsuits.

01:10:09.000 I don't know if that's to the government for shutting down and people losing their income.

01:10:15.000 The creator was saying that they don't think that it's going to happen for a long time.

01:10:19.000 Like there's going to be a lot of pushback.

01:10:20.000 They'd lose in two seconds.

01:10:22.000 The bill will never actually formally ban TikTok.

01:10:25.000 It can't do that.

01:10:26.000 It would restrict TikTok from appearing on the app and Play Store and using US servers,

01:10:30.000 which means they would simply say the app still exists.

01:10:35.000 They're still able to use it.

01:10:36.000 But are they going to tie up this whole thing in litigation for years until-

01:10:41.000 Yeah, TikTok's going to sue.

01:10:42.000 The Supreme Court might even strike this down and say, you can't do this, which is kind of troublesome in essence.

01:10:49.000 I mean, China is an adversary of the United States.

01:10:52.000 It's tough, I get it, but we can't allow China to have a foothold in our economy this strong, to the point where people would sue the government. 0.99

01:11:01.000 Like, I'll mention this.

01:11:03.000 China controls a portion of our economy.

01:11:05.000 It's not a big, well, arguably a big portion with manufacturing, but in TikTok.

01:11:09.000 So the U.S.

01:11:09.000 government says, okay, this is a problem for us, so we're going to shut it down, and the American people sue the American government to keep China in control of this economic machine.

01:11:18.000 Okay, you have to ask the question, too.

01:11:19.000 Let's say this goes to the Supreme Court, and it's argued that this is some kind of First Amendment violation.

01:11:25.000 Does anyone in their right mind actually think the reason the Founders penned the First Amendment was so that foreign powers could collect sensitive data on American citizens?

01:11:34.000 I don't even care about the data!

01:11:36.000 It's sending kids videos of creepy, let's just degenerate behavior, things that will lead them to self-harm, will increase... I don't think it's good.

01:11:51.000 However, I do think that should this go through, the end result is, let's say TikTok says, no, we will not divest, you know, ByteDance will not divest, we will not sell.

01:12:01.000 The app store and the Play Store.

01:12:03.000 Remove the app.

01:12:04.000 That's it.

01:12:05.000 You can still open up TikTok on your phone.

01:12:07.000 You can still watch any TikTok you want.

01:12:09.000 People will sell phones that still have TikTok on them.

01:12:12.000 No, I'm serious.

01:12:13.000 This is like what happened with Flappy Bird.

01:12:14.000 People will do that.

01:12:15.000 They'll hold onto their phone that has TikTok.

01:12:17.000 Not Android phones. Android phones will simply go to tiktok.us and click download and they're fine.

01:12:20.000 Oh wow.

01:12:21.000 But the App Store, because Apple is a closed operating system, will not allow you to download

01:12:25.000 it through their store. So you'd have to jailbreak the phone and then use an external store.

01:12:30.000 But so long as TikTok isn't using US services, you are still allowed to use TikTok. It's not banned.

01:12:36.000 So they would sue and they'd say, oh, my business was hurt because of this.

01:12:40.000 And they'd say, and what is the problem? It's legislation.

01:12:43.000 Congress is allowed to legislate.

01:12:45.000 TikTok is not banned.

01:12:46.000 You're still able to use it.

01:12:47.000 What's the problem?

01:12:48.000 The action taken by the government resulted in a smaller audience size?

01:12:51.000 I don't think you can sue for that.

01:12:53.000 Well, I think that what makes TikTok so valuable and addictive is really the algorithm that they set up from the very beginning where anybody can basically blow up overnight.

01:13:05.000 And I mean, I saw it happen with a lot of people I represented.

01:13:08.000 I mean, you had somebody that had 10,000 followers and then Two months later, they had 10 million.

01:13:13.000 And so I think what's happening too is even though a lot of the different platforms have tried to copy TikTok and the algorithm, it's like you saw it with Twitter, like to unwind all the code and to like build in what you want.

01:13:28.000 It's not that simple.

01:13:29.000 It's complicated.

01:13:30.000 It's complex and even I think Chamath and David Sachs were talking about if it does divest like if nobody's gonna go through every line of code and like make sure that there's no like Easter eggs that the Chinese are still in control of or whatever so Yeah, but as far as it being an app that is probably damaging to young people and the way that their brains are forming and all that, 100%. 0.71

01:14:00.000 But is that something that the government controls or, you know, that we vote on as Americans?

01:14:06.000 I don't know.

01:14:06.000 I mean, I definitely think that TikTok is ultimately more harmful than it is good for

01:14:14.000 Americans.

01:14:16.000 The argument that the CEO of TikTok made, especially when he testified before Congress,

01:14:19.000 was, well, so many people have businesses and careers that are now TikTok-based, so

01:14:23.000 you're actually hurting them economically, and that's terrible, and you can't do that.

01:14:26.000 The fact is that we have other forms of social media if you wanted to be an influencer.

01:14:30.000 Most influencers aren't just only on one platform.

01:14:33.000 The funny thing is, if you look at the, I think it's TikTok creators, Instagram, they

01:14:37.000 were trying to get people to call your local congressman or senator or whatever.

01:14:43.000 And all the comments were like, we don't even like you guys don't take care of us anymore.

01:14:47.000 You don't pay us.

01:14:47.000 Like they were, there was so many influencers, like big accounts, they were, they were turning their back on TikTok.

01:14:53.000 And so, um, you know, is YouTube going to become more powerful meta when, if it does get just shut down?

01:15:01.000 Yes, but does that give people opportunity to start new things?

01:15:04.000 Twitter?

01:15:06.000 So... The funny thing is, if someone made a social media app right now and just gave everyone fake followers, they'd all be like, oh, TikTok's dumb. 0.98

01:15:13.000 Like, how do you even verify any of those numbers on any of these social media platforms?

01:15:18.000 That's what we would all ask when TikTok started.

01:15:20.000 Remember Facebook video?

01:15:23.000 So 10 years ago, I'm at a meeting with a big, major cable channel network, And we're talking about YouTube versus Facebook, and I said, well, YouTube's obviously it.

01:15:34.000 It's the engagement you want.

01:15:36.000 And they were like, yeah, but look at the views you get on Facebook.

01:15:38.000 And I was like, but those aren't real views.

01:15:40.000 And they were like, it doesn't matter.

01:15:41.000 When we go to advertisers and we say, we get a million views on YouTube and 10 million on Facebook, we increase our revenue 10x.

01:15:49.000 And then I'm like, how long is that going to, these are not engaging views.

01:15:52.000 No one's buying.

01:15:53.000 And they were like, Facebook video is it.

01:15:55.000 And there was a big scandal where apparently Facebook got sued or something because the video views that advertisers were paying for were, like, not actual.

01:16:04.000 So, uh, you know, I'm not gonna accuse TikTok of anything.

01:16:06.000 I'm just saying.

01:16:08.000 If someone made an app called, um, you know, KitKat.

01:16:11.000 TimTalk.

01:16:12.000 Sure, and people signed up, and then all of a sudden it was like, well, I'm on TikTok, KitKat, and Instagram, and I have 10 million followers on KitKat.

01:16:20.000 They'd be like, I'm going there.

01:16:21.000 Now, you gotta be careful with it.

01:16:22.000 If you just gave someone 10 million followers, nobody would believe it.

01:16:25.000 Back during the MySpace era, it was really funny to see these bands that were like a random guy, and he had 4 billion plays on his music, and it's just like, dude, you went too far.

01:16:34.000 You want to give yourself like 10,000 so it looks like you're an up-and-coming band and then you get the opening act on a tour or something.

01:16:42.000 But if you put multi-platinum like, I guess he's going to the club to pick up girls or something.

01:16:46.000 Good luck.

01:16:49.000 Really troubling, because the way you would usually be able to tell whether the views were authentic was engagement.

01:16:55.000 There's just a certain ratio.

01:16:56.000 You're going to get a certain number of comments per actual view.

01:16:58.000 You're going to get a certain number of upvotes and downvotes per actual view.

01:17:01.000 If a video says it has 100,000 views, but then there's five likes and two dislikes, well, it's probably not genuine.

01:17:10.000 Don't think you're off, yeah.

01:17:11.000 But now that we have AI and these bots are going to be able to be more sophisticated, They'll be able to much more easily fake engagement.

01:17:20.000 You used to be able to fake views, but not engagement.

01:17:22.000 Now you're going to be able to fake engagement.

01:17:24.000 I'm going to give a shout out to Dave Kross in the regular chat.

01:17:27.000 He says, Facebook contributed to the Arab Spring.

01:17:29.000 TikTok is, could do that here.

01:17:32.000 And that's true.

01:17:32.000 And that's why, a big reason why it's a national security threat.

01:17:35.000 Whether you agree or disagree doesn't matter.

01:17:38.000 The Arab Spring was largely organized through Facebook and Twitter, particularly in Egypt.

01:17:44.000 I believe the woman's name was, was it Asma Mahfouz?

01:17:49.000 I could be getting the name wrong.

01:17:51.000 Used Facebook to organize people to come and protest against the government, and it toppled the government twice.

01:17:57.000 So if China has an app with this much influence in the US, Well, good luck, I guess. 0.96

01:18:02.000 You're going to become a vassal state to the Chinese Communist Party.

01:18:05.000 Good luck.

01:18:06.000 Well, isn't it funny that when social media was used to incite the Arab Spring, you had political leaders like Obama just praising social media platforms as these uncensored paradises and basically suggesting that this is the way for the future and as soon as those same platforms are used.

01:18:27.000 I'm not talking about TikTok here, but Twitter, Facebook, generally speaking, and particularly Twitter now that Musk is in charge, now that they're being used to give Americans a voice to speak up against our government, now they're dangerous, now they need to be shut down, now we have to be very concerned about what's happening on these platforms.

01:18:43.000 Yeah.

01:18:44.000 I mean, to be fair, American platforms are all kinds of messed up and nefarious too, but I think the added element of a foreign national government that has ties to the company's operation is just a risk I'm not willing to take. 0.86

01:18:59.000 You know, I think TikTok is so interesting because I think it maybe really spurred influencer culture and social media dependence, especially for business, in an unusual way because it blew up during COVID.

01:19:17.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

01:19:18.000 I mean, that was really the reason Taylor Lorenz, in my opinion, wrote the bad article about me was because at that time, Everything was there was no entertainment happening in Hollywood.

01:19:29.000 Everybody was locked in.

01:19:30.000 And so I had a bunch of social media stars.

01:19:33.000 And so I had like, you know, a golden nugget that everybody wanted.

01:19:37.000 And so her talent agency, you know, my opinion, like, that's why she went after me, because I had something valuable, which was these influencers that were creating content on on TikTok.

01:19:47.000 But I don't know.

01:19:48.000 I think do you think that do you think that Like, these people are allowed to turn up the volume or turn the volume down, right?

01:19:56.000 They're allowed to say, you know, you're not allowed to dance around a bikini. 0.75

01:19:59.000 And I'm not saying there should be more censorship, but is there a reason why you think that they're not turning down the volume on, let's say, anti-Semitism or, you know, war?

01:20:11.000 I don't know.

01:20:11.000 Like, they decide what they're going to put.

01:20:14.000 On all platforms.

01:20:16.000 Like, you even look at Elon Musk, right?

01:20:19.000 The ADL goes after X, Elon travels to Israel, he comes back, he says, we're going to take this seriously.

01:20:25.000 The U.S.

01:20:26.000 I don't think actually cares about Jewish people or black people.

01:20:31.000 I don't think they care about any of that.

01:20:32.000 I think they care about military policy.

01:20:34.000 And Israel is a key component in U.S.

01:20:36.000 military policy in the Middle East.

01:20:38.000 And so they're just like, we can't allow sentiment against this.

01:20:40.000 But they're losing that because of TikTok.

01:20:43.000 So, when TikTok allows for this massive... I mean, it really is simple.

01:20:48.000 When X allows criticism of Israel or antisemitism, the advertisers come down super, super hard.

01:20:56.000 What can you do to TikTok?

01:20:58.000 Funded by the CCP or external sources, they don't care for the advertiser, they can do whatever they want, they can't control it, so they have to stop it.

01:21:05.000 I don't think the issue is Jewish people, I think the U.S.

01:21:08.000 is concerned that We're going to have a youth... like, the sentiment in this country among young people is anti-Israel.

01:21:15.000 I tweeted this.

01:21:15.000 I think support for Israel is done.

01:21:17.000 You've got the MAGA side, which is anti-interventionist, many of whom deeply support Israel but are like, but I ain't paying for it.

01:21:24.000 And then you have the left populists, which are just like, Israel's evil and they don't want to pay for it. 0.95

01:21:29.000 Give it 20 to 40 years and U.S. 0.94

01:21:31.000 military policy in the Middle East is flipped on its head.

01:21:34.000 Massive advantage for China and Russia and the BRICS nations. 0.90

01:21:37.000 So, the Deep State is between a rock and a hard place because, well, they supported it, they ignored the problems, they're super arrogant, and they reap what they've sown.

01:21:47.000 So the platform, though, is able to say, for example, if you talk about gender ideology, you're walking on a... people have gotten suspended, banned, right, on YouTube because they talk about the gender ideology situation.

01:22:00.000 And so does that then make it so more people are... so one side, basically, of the argument is silenced and the other is allowed to...

01:22:11.000 Uh, grow and be the popular thing, right?

01:22:15.000 Um, the fact is we're giving the platforms the ability to shape culture in that way because so many people want to be content creators.

01:22:23.000 They say, we got to follow the rules.

01:22:25.000 So we're not allowed to criticize, uh, gender ideology and that stuff because YouTube says we're not.

01:22:30.000 Um, that's where I think it gets dangerous because who are the people pulling the strings?

01:22:36.000 If I were going to rank the platforms in terms of free speech, it depends on how reductive you want to get and how small you want to get.

01:22:43.000 Gab, for obvious reasons, has a really high free speech rating.

01:22:47.000 Minds.com does.

01:22:49.000 In terms of the big players right now, Rumble is probably the best, followed by Axe.

01:22:54.000 And they go back and forth a little bit, but I do think Rumble is substantially better than Axe on free speech.

01:22:59.000 Um, X, for instance, has a misgendering policy, so it's like, what do you do?

01:23:04.000 YouTube actually is not as bad as a lot of people claim it.

01:23:06.000 Not to claim it is, but it is still, it is a massive leap.

01:23:10.000 You go from X and Rumble, and then you're in the gutter of censorship.

01:23:14.000 So, I will stress, YouTube is very bad on censorship.

01:23:16.000 They're very, very bad.

01:23:18.000 I'm just saying, people think YouTube is like, oh, YouTube's so bad they're doing this.

01:23:21.000 It's wrong.

01:23:22.000 YouTube's bad, agreed. 0.96

01:23:23.000 Facebook is insane.

01:23:26.000 TikTok is the worst.

01:23:29.000 TikTok will censor you in two seconds for no reason, just because they're like, my assumption is behind the scenes, if you run afoul of their narrative, they don't care.

01:23:38.000 They don't need to abide by any of the rules.

01:23:39.000 There's no contracts and nothing you can do about it.

01:23:41.000 They ban you and they laugh.

01:23:42.000 Facebook at least has to contend with US lawmakers and lawsuits.

01:23:46.000 Facebook is the next worst.

01:23:48.000 And then I would say Facebook and Instagram, and then YouTube.

01:23:52.000 And so if we were doing like a scale of like, One being the worst censorship platform and 100 being the

01:24:00.000 best platform for free speech.

01:24:02.000 Rumble is probably like a 93, Axe is like an 85 or 80.

01:24:08.000 And then YouTube is 23, Facebook is 15, Instagram is similar, and then TikTok is a 2.

01:24:15.000 Two years ago I got banned for a month for going live and just explaining the lawsuit

01:24:20.000 against Taylor Lorenz in the New York Times.

01:24:22.000 And the reason was for harassment and bullying.

01:24:26.000 And I'm like, what?

01:24:27.000 Let me let me jump to this story.

01:24:28.000 This one's funny from NBC News.

01:24:30.000 Metastock plunges 15 percent as company plans to invest heavily in artificial intelligence.

01:24:37.000 I also want to shout out the typo in the headline there.

01:24:39.000 I wonder if they fixed it yet.

01:24:42.000 And nope, they still have not fixed the Hevli-eye.

01:24:46.000 So here's the funny thing.

01:24:48.000 On TikTok Ban Day, you would think that MetaStock would skyrocket.

01:24:53.000 Yeah.

01:24:54.000 It's tanking.

01:24:55.000 I don't know what the estimated loss is, but it's massive.

01:24:59.000 Actually, let me see if I can pull up the MetaStock so you can actually see the massive drop-off.

01:25:06.000 Here, take a look at that.

01:25:07.000 Whoa.

01:25:08.000 Yeah, that's a big dip!

01:25:10.000 From 493 down to 411.

01:25:13.000 That is massive.

01:25:16.000 That's what, like 20, almost 20% in a day?

01:25:19.000 Is that what it is?

01:25:20.000 Over the past five days?

01:25:22.000 Oh, okay, so this is after hours?

01:25:26.000 Interesting.

01:25:27.000 So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna see what happens when this, they're not giving us the actual numbers, but there were a lot of members of Congress who bought a bunch of metastock right before they all voted to ban TikTok.

01:25:39.000 Yep.

01:25:40.000 That's actually really funny.

01:25:41.000 And so this kind of feels pretty good because, you know, I see all these reports and it's like, here's a list of members of Congress who bought stock in Meta just before voting to ban TikTok.

01:25:50.000 And it's a lot of people and it's a good amount of money.

01:25:53.000 And then when the ban happens, Meta stock plunges.

01:25:55.000 And I was like, I can't believe that's allowed for them to do that, to be able to buy the stocks and all that.

01:26:01.000 That's why they're all millionaires.

01:26:03.000 That's why they're all super rich.

01:26:04.000 That's why their salary is $174,000 a year, but half of them are millionaires.

01:26:09.000 Or more.

01:26:10.000 And for the most part, they don't care that it hasn't changed, right?

01:26:13.000 Who's gonna vote against it?

01:26:14.000 Who's gonna vote to ban what makes you rich?

01:26:17.000 It's like, we're all here in this room, it's like, who wants to vote to take away all of our sodas and shut the show down?

01:26:23.000 Like, no, no, we're benefiting from it.

01:26:25.000 Exactly.

01:26:25.000 I mean, look, if our politicians were intelligent enough, economically speaking, to have the kinds of stock portfolios that they have with the income they have, there would be no excuse for our economy to look the way that it looks.

01:26:38.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:26:40.000 Well, I've got to tell you, I watched your episode where you were first talking about the YouTube thing and I was like, I really got to tip my hat to you, Tim, because, you know, it seems like you took it on the chin and you have, you have plans and you have people that, you know, some of these TikTokers, I see them and I'm like, why aren't you focusing on other platforms and getting the email addresses and all that stuff? 0.92

01:27:02.000 It's hard to run a business when you're totally at the mercy of a platform.

01:27:08.000 You're building and doing all these things.

01:27:09.000 I would be a lot more stressed out about it, but you just seem to move forward.

01:27:18.000 And that's inspiring, I think, because it's not easy to build a business like this.

01:27:22.000 And I know because I've been in the industry for a long time.

01:27:26.000 I think people go to Congress because they feel like... There's very few people go to Congress because they want to make things better.

01:27:33.000 I think they're mostly just slightly below mediocre people who are like, I am just so awful, the only way I will ever matter is if I'm in office, and they're forced to know my name.

01:27:46.000 And so that's Congress.

01:27:48.000 It's not being funny.

01:27:50.000 It's mediocre people, they have limited skills, and they're like, all I have to do is... Look, it's real simple.

01:27:57.000 You put on a jumpsuit, you slap the stickers for all the corporate brands that are sponsoring you and funding your candidacy, and they say, hey, we'll give 50 million to your super PAC if, not 50, but like if you're a member of Congress, we'll give you 2 million to your super PAC.

01:28:09.000 Just, you know, don't forget us.

01:28:11.000 We got a bill that we will want you to put through.

01:28:14.000 And then when they're in Congress, what was it, who was it that was telling us, was it Matt Gaetz mentioning this, that you have to pay money to get your committee seats?

01:28:21.000 That was Thomas Massey, I think.

01:28:22.000 I think that was Matt Gaetz.

01:28:23.000 I'm not sure, but a congressman came and told us this.

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:27.000 This was on the Culture War show.

01:28:27.000 Oh, I know.

01:28:31.000 It was two former staffers.

01:28:32.000 Lisa Reynolds actually was on that show. 0.93

01:28:34.000 And they were talking about how Matt Gaetz went in and said, I want these committees.

01:28:36.000 And they were like, OK, well, then you've got to give us money.

01:28:39.000 And he said, what would I get if I gave you a check for $500,000 right now?

01:28:41.000 And they're like, oh, you can have any committee you want.

01:28:43.000 And that's how the game is played.

01:28:45.000 So you have a lot of people.

01:28:46.000 I think Matt's great.

01:28:47.000 I don't lump him in with these people.

01:28:49.000 But you have a lot of people who are just like, you've never heard their name.

01:28:52.000 They're in Congress. 0.97

01:28:53.000 And they're mediocre people who are like, well, I'm worthless. 0.94

01:28:57.000 Maybe I'll just suckle the teat of the corporate political arm and do as they say, and then people will put my name in the history books, and then they'll get their name written on stone or something, and that's why they do it. 0.94

01:29:08.000 Then they go, and when it's time to vote, they're like, don't know, don't care, whatever the corporations tell me to do, whatever the intelligence agencies say.

01:29:15.000 Look at Mike Johnson, man, that guy's a disappointment.

01:29:18.000 Mike Johnson's like, well, I went into the confidential, secure confidential room with the Deep State and came out and now I'm going to do literally everything they say no matter what.

01:29:26.000 Do you think the effort to oust him is going to work?

01:29:31.000 I don't know.

01:29:32.000 What's the point?

01:29:35.000 Do you guys think that the TikTok ban or the thing forcing them to divest, do you think that all these people in the government have been briefed by the NSA and CIA and that we'll never know any of the reasons why they all got on board?

01:29:49.000 It's why it's so bipartisan or is it something else maybe more nefarious?

01:29:54.000 Like why they got on board with the TikTok ban?

01:29:56.000 Yeah, because it's a bipartisan thing, right?

01:29:58.000 Yeah, because of Israel. 0.85

01:29:59.000 But this is public knowledge.

01:29:59.000 Okay.

01:30:01.000 There's no conspiracy.

01:30:01.000 This is not a secret.

01:30:04.000 After October 7th, there was a bunch of pro-Israel content on TikTok.

01:30:08.000 A week went by and it shifted dramatically towards pro-Palestine, which many researchers said, and this part's speculative in opinion, it looked like a weighted algorithm that TikTok either intentionally did this or Foreign countries launched an influence campaign intentionally promoting pro-Palestine content, targeting young people.

01:30:30.000 And either way, whether TikTok did it on purpose or foreign countries were launching these things to generate the sentiment, the U.S.

01:30:40.000 had no control over it.

01:30:41.000 Donors started calling Democrats saying, ban this app, don't allow this.

01:30:45.000 And they said, OK.

01:30:46.000 And then Democrats got on board instantly saying, you got it.

01:30:50.000 Whatever you say, big donors, and it is now they want to ban TikTok.

01:30:54.000 Trump's the Trump faction and Republicans wanted to ban it because it's promoting degeneracy and it's it's promoting basically Democrat policies.

01:31:02.000 It used to be that we were very much in tune with like the government.

01:31:07.000 Well, maybe not always, but you know, at least I did is like the government knows better about what's best for me, like for the FDA, like something to get approved.

01:31:18.000 Like I don't have the sophistication to be able to say, okay, yeah, the Chinese 1.00

01:31:22.000 have my information and how that is damaging and, and all the different things. But I think

01:31:27.000 with, with COVID and everything else, it's like, we don't have the same trust in those

01:31:31.000 institutions. And so it's also like, I don't, I don't actually know who has the best interest if they are

01:31:37.000 banning it, because this is bad for the information, or if it's you get what I'm

01:31:41.000 saying.

01:31:41.000 Yeah.

01:31:42.000 The trust in the government is low and so you – basically everyone is serving their own interests and I think that's probably true.

01:31:46.000 I mean there are people who would be on either side of this issue for their own reasons or for reasons they're not disclosing and presenting themselves as being the good guys.

01:31:56.000 I mean I think ultimately this is always the gamble with – you know.

01:32:01.000 Having any sort of collective government, you know, you have to send someone to represent you and that person has to hopefully have good morals and make decisions that are just.

01:32:11.000 What bothers me about all of these bills is that they tend to roll so many things into them, right?

01:32:16.000 I think we should vote on AIDS separately.

01:32:18.000 I think that this TikTok thing should have been added.

01:32:21.000 I think it's very strange.

01:32:23.000 There was one of the senators who was talking during debate earlier this week, was mentioning the fact that, you know, the chambers are supposed to go on recess soon.

01:32:32.000 So they're saying like, well, we're kind of on a deadline.

01:32:35.000 We can't amend this again because then we have to send it to the House, but the House would go on whatever.

01:32:38.000 Like, this is not how lawfare is supposed to go.

01:32:40.000 Yeah, that's one of the reasons.

01:32:41.000 There are a whole bunch of things that are happening that, as the average American voter, you don't have basically the space to run your own life and also be like, well, I've got to stay on my congressman so he doesn't try and pull something nefarious by scheduling a vote at a time when there becomes this deadline.

01:33:01.000 And so I think it's a rough time to be an American voter and saying like, well, I don't know where I stand on all these issues, but also I don't know that I can trust everyone who's involved in making it happen.

01:33:12.000 What's funny though is like 200 years ago, or not even that long ago, let's say like 120 years ago, you're a member of Congress, you'd have no idea what they were doing.

01:33:24.000 They'd go and they'd hang out and they'd just be like, whatever, yes, no, maybe, I don't care.

01:33:28.000 And then people would just be like, oh, I hope they're doing it.

01:33:30.000 Before social media, you mean, too?

01:33:33.000 Before radio.

01:33:34.000 Before radio, like when we were still getting our mail delivered by the Pony Express.

01:33:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:33:39.000 There are so many advances in technology that actually make it easier to keep an eye on what's going on.

01:33:44.000 In some ways, it makes it almost more bizarre that we are watching in real time all these kind of crazy things happen.

01:33:53.000 When you get, like, what was it, the border security bill, but it wasn't actually the border security bill at all.

01:33:57.000 They kept calling it the border bill in the media and then it was actually all foreign aid and they're like, also we could let this many thousand illegal aliens in every year.

01:34:05.000 Like, we are able to fact check faster and to catch these things.

01:34:10.000 On the other hand, it doesn't dissuade any politician from carrying on business as usual.

01:34:15.000 I find that discouraging.

01:34:19.000 Yeah.

01:34:20.000 Well then, shall we go to Super Chats?

01:34:22.000 Yeah!

01:34:22.000 Before we do, my friends, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with all your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us to become a member.

01:34:31.000 That way you can watch the uncensored members-only call-in show, which will be coming up at 10pm.

01:34:37.000 And I would say to all of our detractors, Have you an issue?

01:34:41.000 Well, why don't you actually join the Discord, argue with people, and submit questions, and call in, and make your beef loud and heard by all.

01:34:49.000 And we'll actually have that discussion, because y'all are welcome to do that.

01:34:52.000 The big issue, however, is that we face censorship.

01:34:56.000 That's right, from YouTube.

01:34:57.000 And while we are currently discussing things with top men...

01:35:00.000 Make sure you follow us on Axe at TimCast and Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL, but also become a member at TimCast.com because that's how we run the whole show.

01:35:08.000 Without you as members, we don't exist!

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01:35:13.000 Now we'll read your superchats and, uh...

01:35:19.000 If YouTube allows me to, actually.

01:35:21.000 Oh, you know what?

01:35:22.000 I have to read this one first.

01:35:23.000 It just came in.

01:35:26.000 Because it's for Seamus.

01:35:27.000 It's not for Seamus, but I have to read this one.

01:35:31.000 Oh, let's see.

01:35:32.000 F the Magician says, the same people that shouted punch a Nazi are now chanting from the river to the sea and death to Israel.

01:35:39.000 Seamus, there's a cartoon in there somewhere where, like, either there's a time machine involved or they're just marching down the street chanting death to Israel and then punching themselves in the face.

01:35:49.000 Oh my gosh, yeah.

01:35:51.000 Well, as we all know, right, this charge of being a Nazi or whatever else they'd label you with was never actually sincere.

01:35:58.000 It was just an excuse to do violence against you.

01:36:00.000 If I call you that, then people can hurt you." 0.89

01:36:02.000 Or you could do...

01:36:03.000 Yeah, yeah, there could be something there.

01:36:05.000 There could be something there.

01:36:06.000 You could do basically an homage to that bringing back the World War II soldiers to the future

01:36:12.000 one.

01:36:13.000 Oh my gosh.

01:36:14.000 And this is Antifa calling...

01:36:16.000 They use a time machine to bring themselves from ten years ago to the future.

01:36:20.000 Oh my gosh.

01:36:21.000 That would actually be really good.

01:36:23.000 Yeah, that'd be awesome.

01:36:26.000 We brought the time machine back in a couple cartoons recently.

01:36:28.000 One where they brought Hitler and Stalin back, so maybe they'll keep using it. 0.97

01:36:33.000 How long does it take you to make one of those full feature things?

01:36:37.000 So we do at least one cartoon a week.

01:36:39.000 We do at least one cartoon a week.

01:36:42.000 And I have a fantastic team and all of us just really grind to get it done quickly.

01:36:47.000 It takes him like 20 minutes.

01:36:48.000 He's just really lazy.

01:36:50.000 It's always the night before they all start.

01:36:52.000 They don't work on it during the week.

01:36:53.000 It's just the final 12 hours.

01:36:55.000 I'm just always curious about all the pieces that go into it.

01:36:59.000 But I'm sure writing it is the first thing.

01:37:02.000 I think the best cartoon, uh, Seamus ever did was when Tim Pool threatened people who didn't buy chickens.

01:37:02.000 Yeah.

01:37:08.000 That was amazing, that was a really good one.

01:37:09.000 That was a really good cartoon, thank you.

01:37:11.000 And it was real, I mean, it was just audio I took from you.

01:37:13.000 He took audio from my show where I was like, buy a chicken, maybe you do, maybe you don't, you'll regret it, or something like that, and then, uh, it's actually... Okay, I gotta go back and look it up.

01:37:20.000 You guys gotta check that one out.

01:37:21.000 It was me basically saying, like, If you buy chickens, you'll be happy and outside, but the way it sounded, Seamus turned it into me torturing a guy.

01:37:29.000 Because you're like, you know, if you don't buy, like, you can either have chickens or you can be surrounded by a mom.

01:37:35.000 I can't even, I want to, I want to find, I can't remember what I named it.

01:37:40.000 It's like Tim Pool threatens you or something.

01:37:42.000 Do you have like, do you have like different ideas of like what they could be?

01:37:46.000 And then you get around with your team and you're like, which one does everybody like?

01:37:49.000 And the chickens won one.

01:37:50.000 Yeah, well, no, I mean, we're just always like, what are we doing now?

01:37:53.000 What do we do now?

01:37:53.000 Because we have to make them so quickly to keep, yeah, yeah.

01:37:58.000 And I just had this idea and I was like, we need to make this.

01:38:00.000 It's called Tim Pool Out of Context from Freedom 2.

01:38:03.000 Did you say you have a podcast where you and your team talk about how you decide what to make or how you go through the process?

01:38:08.000 So behind the paywall, after we finish a video, we'll usually record a short podcast on how we made it, what the process was like, the parts we enjoyed, the parts that were difficult, and we just sort of let the audience in on that, or we let the paying members in on that.

01:38:22.000 That's cool.

01:38:22.000 FreedomTunes.com.

01:38:23.000 That's cool.

01:38:24.000 I hung out with them.

01:38:25.000 We gotta read some Super Chats. 0.87

01:38:26.000 Sorry about that, dawg.

01:38:27.000 Stephen Says says, first to like, he beat Clint Torres, and that's likely because we launched the show a little earlier on YouTube today.

01:38:36.000 Wow.

01:38:37.000 Dick Nemo says, Boomers tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps but neglect to mention they stole your bootstraps and also put you in debt before you were born. 1.00

01:38:44.000 Ouch.

01:38:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:46.000 You know, I don't blame all boomers for it, because many boomers gave a Star Trek The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, you know.

01:38:54.000 Voyager's okay.

01:38:55.000 I wonder if we could calculate the cumulative student loan debt of all of the protesters involved at the Columbia, you know what I mean?

01:39:01.000 Like, every single one of those people, I mean, not all of them, probably are getting really fantastic scholarship based on all sorts of great merits, I'm sure, but a lot of them took out huge loans and are now like, we hate this school, we're gonna protest.

01:39:15.000 Maybe you should just drop out and stop paying them.

01:39:17.000 All right, Alpha Turkey says also, USC has gone remote for classes tomorrow.

01:39:21.000 I'm sure the schools are super excited.

01:39:23.000 They're like, how much money do we save by going remote?

01:39:25.000 And they're like, oh, it's like 30, $40,000 a day.

01:39:28.000 I mean, actually, how much do you think it costs?

01:39:30.000 Probably Columbia is probably a hundred grand a day or some ridiculous number, right?

01:39:34.000 With staff, yeah, staffing, janitors, electricity, the cleaning supplies, the groundskeeping.

01:39:41.000 They're probably saving, oh, I mean, like, food, right?

01:39:44.000 If you don't have students on campus, you don't have to serve meals.

01:39:47.000 This is in order to prevent what is going on right now?

01:39:51.000 Or to deter further escalations.

01:39:54.000 I think some schools are starting to announce preemptively, like, don't protest here, we'll have consequences, we're going online, but... Alright, Brian Egan says, getting tired of lefties claiming binary gender is a social construct that we just made up.

01:40:07.000 Like, that isn't exactly what they're doing.

01:40:10.000 Agreed.

01:40:13.000 They're making up tons of genders. 1.00

01:40:14.000 It's projecting.

01:40:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:40:15.000 The Emperor Champion says, why do so many judges act like they have the power of God and anime on their side?

01:40:21.000 Oh, wow.

01:40:22.000 Seems like they think they can do whatever they want.

01:40:25.000 Has he been watching Judge Matt Walsh?

01:40:28.000 That was funny.

01:40:29.000 I've only seen clips, but I don't know much about it.

01:40:32.000 Someone tweeted that Matt Walsh tried to enforce the death penalty on someone in one of the cases or something.

01:40:38.000 I don't know.

01:40:40.000 But it was clearly a joke.

01:40:41.000 That's hilarious.

01:40:43.000 I saw a couple moments of it.

01:40:44.000 I thought it was pretty funny.

01:40:45.000 I haven't seen it yet, but I guess it's just absolutely satirical.

01:40:49.000 He's just goofing off.

01:40:51.000 There was one clip I saw that I commented on where he's talking to a woman and she mentions fully nude strip clubs and he's like, fully nude as opposed to what?

01:41:00.000 And it's just like, oh heavens me, you wholesome Met Walsh.

01:41:03.000 He does not know that there are different kinds of strip clubs.

01:41:08.000 And then he's like, well, I was raised by two loving parents, so I have no idea, and I'm like... He's correct, but I also had two loving parents, and I suppose, growing up in a different environment, there are... This is an actually important distinction to be made.

01:41:21.000 Uh-oh.

01:41:22.000 There are strip clubs where women aren't allowed to get naked in any way. 1.00

01:41:25.000 They're called bikini bars. 1.00

01:41:26.000 Women are on stage with stripper poles, and they have to wear thick, firm undergarments. 1.00

01:41:31.000 So they're basically wearing swimwear.

01:41:33.000 They strip their clothes off, they dance on the pole, but they're totally covered.

01:41:36.000 Then you have topless bars, where it's illegal in some states for women to take their bottoms off. 1.00

01:41:40.000 So, you know, you can see the top, but you can't see the bottom.

01:41:43.000 And then you have some states that allow fully nude, but it's not everywhere.

01:41:47.000 I think, like, South Dakota is fully clothed.

01:41:50.000 And some of them change based on the alcohol, like if you serve alcohol.

01:41:53.000 Someone was telling me this in Colorado.

01:41:54.000 The reason this is important is because people not knowing this, when that child was dancing on stage and taking his clothes off, and it was stripping, we talked about this years ago, people were like, no, no, he's just removing an upper layer of clothing.

01:42:09.000 Because they're preying upon the ignorance of the average person who doesn't realize that's actually most strip clubs.

01:42:14.000 I'm glad you brought this up because recently I saw that girl, Nala Ray, with the red hair that left Only Fans for God. 0.99

01:42:24.000 And while I heard you say that, you know, this is good that we're kind of getting away from debaucherous ideals and going more towards, I don't know, faith-based stuff, but I know what the back end of OnlyFans looks like because when I was basically left almost destitute, somebody was like, why don't you represent OnlyFans, girls?

01:42:45.000 And I was like, well, I've never even been on it, so I don't even know.

01:42:49.000 You know, so show me how it works.

01:42:51.000 And I saw the back end, somebody that makes, you know, 200 grand a month.

01:42:57.000 She's like, yeah, I just hire chatters. 0.94

01:42:59.000 The actual girl is 10 steps removed from it. 0.99

01:43:02.000 She gets to take the pictures and la la la, but then there's somebody.

01:43:05.000 I was on the back end and I saw the messages that the chatters have to deal with. 0.75

01:43:09.000 I mean, they're humiliating, they're gross.

01:43:11.000 You think about the men that are cheating on their wives, they talk about how they're cheating.

01:43:14.000 I'm like, if I had to be a chatter, the toxicity that it would bring to my life, it would be devastating for me.

01:43:21.000 And I just had two hours of that.

01:43:23.000 This should be illegal.

01:43:25.000 Agreed.

01:43:25.000 It's fraud.

01:43:26.000 Not just for the fraud reasons.

01:43:28.000 I spoke out about Nala, and I said, because she painted this picture as though, you know, she didn't talk about the chatters and all that stuff, and she also said that, oh, well, this is how I make money now.

01:43:39.000 I go live on TikTok, and I talk about God, and I'm very modest addressed, and this is how I make my money now.

01:43:46.000 What that message is saying to somebody that maybe wants to leave OF is, uh, yeah, you can absolutely be a content creator and be a, you know, get attention and do it this way.

01:43:56.000 And you're going to be able to make money.

01:43:57.000 The reality is that, um, that girl Nala Ray has not gone live on Tik TOK in four months. 0.95

01:44:02.000 So how, how did she, how can she say that that's how she makes money now? 0.99

01:44:05.000 That's a lie.

01:44:06.000 You don't have to lie if you want to get people to go to God.

01:44:10.000 So you have, on OnlyFans, and I think everybody realizes this, or a lot of people do, you're not talking to the woman.

01:44:16.000 You're talking to staff.

01:44:18.000 And it's often guys.

01:44:19.000 I think that should be fraud.

01:44:20.000 It is.

01:44:21.000 It's fraudulent.

01:44:22.000 You are saying, hey, give me money, you can talk to me.

01:44:24.000 But then they're like, okay, talk to this guy.

01:44:26.000 Yeah, you're catfishing, basically.

01:44:27.000 Yeah, yeah, that should be illegal.

01:44:29.000 And why wouldn't you want to expose that when you supposedly left for God?

01:44:33.000 Is it because in case you go back to it, you don't want all your customers to know that you were defrauding them?

01:44:38.000 I don't know what the motivation is, but it's like, you don't... And I always say this to people that want to be content creators.

01:44:44.000 It's like, just be honest, be yourself, accept your faults.

01:44:48.000 Remember 8 Mile and Eminem when he... Oh, when he disses himself?

01:44:52.000 Yeah, he's like, of course I live in a trailer with my mom.

01:44:54.000 I mean, that's how you should be.

01:44:56.000 You should just be authentic because then nobody can come back and call you a liar or whatever.

01:45:00.000 But it's like, you know, I always question influencers that package a story so perfectly that it seems, and then you find out why it's disingenuous.

01:45:09.000 And there are people that can get damaged from stuff like that.

01:45:12.000 Like I was telling you earlier, the parents of her and all that that she disparaged.

01:45:15.000 So anyway.

01:45:16.000 All right.

01:45:16.000 Jimmy says, can you reach out to AJ from the Y-Files to get on your show?

01:45:20.000 Also, shout out to Rise with Roberto Jr.

01:45:22.000 You know, I've been drinking so much Appalachian Nights.

01:45:24.000 I'm gonna get some Rise with Roberto Jr.

01:45:25.000 It's also very, very good.

01:45:27.000 And I miss it.

01:45:28.000 It's bright.

01:45:29.000 It's got a little bit more caffeine, I guess, because it's a lighter roast.

01:45:32.000 All right.

01:45:33.000 Jason Dixon says, call that Fallout phone number from the TV show, then text them.

01:45:36.000 It's a real number.

01:45:37.000 They will even send you a V-card for your phone.

01:45:40.000 It's hilarious.

01:45:41.000 Also, promote the Discord.

01:45:43.000 Become a member at TimGuest.com and hang out in the Discord, because there are people there and they do shows.

01:45:47.000 The Discord is so active.

01:45:49.000 It's wild.

01:45:50.000 They're always doing something.

01:45:51.000 I feel like they have a whole, like, other culture.

01:45:54.000 I feel like I'm a boomer.

01:45:55.000 I need to get in on the Discord stuff.

01:45:57.000 Oh, I'm afraid of our Discord.

01:45:58.000 I've done a couple things where I've been on and, like, I'm just such a boomer.

01:46:03.000 I don't know how to navigate it, but they're cool.

01:46:04.000 They're working really hard.

01:46:05.000 There's just so many things, but I actually want to get in on it because I feel like it'd be fun.

01:46:11.000 Yes. 0.97

01:46:16.000 I certainly think it's dangerous territory if a bunch of dumb college kids are chanting that stuff and you decide to start arresting them. 0.99

01:46:23.000 I certainly think the line would be the woman who screamed that she was Hamas. 0.98

01:46:28.000 At that point it's like...

01:46:29.000 Okay, so be it.

01:46:32.000 Now there's going to be an investigation into any criminal activity.

01:46:36.000 And if that criminal activity advanced any of Hamas's goals, and if it does, I feel like you have no choice but to charge them as if they were Hamas.

01:46:46.000 Because then what?

01:46:46.000 When actual Hamas shows up, you're like, well, you know, we can't charge them because we didn't charge them.

01:46:51.000 It's like a slippery slope.

01:46:52.000 If someone swears their allegiance to Hamas, it's like and Hamas is recognized by the government as such.

01:46:56.000 But I do believe it is it is dangerous.

01:46:58.000 And shouldn't And have murdered civilians, and yeah.

01:47:00.000 Yeah, shouldn't we treat that as serious?

01:47:02.000 Like, that's one of the other issues, is like, she can scream that, become a viral moment, somebody out there is like, yeah, nice one, but like, I think we should treat it seriously if you're publicly being like, we're all this terrorist organization.

01:47:14.000 Like, that's not a good look.

01:47:15.000 If there was some, like, white nationalist group that carried out a mass shooting, right?

01:47:19.000 And then some protester said that they were part of that group.

01:47:22.000 I mean, how do you think that would be handled?

01:47:24.000 Very differently.

01:47:25.000 The text vet says, Abbott did this because we have elections next week here in Texas.

01:47:30.000 This was him trying to appeal to the pro-Israel voters.

01:47:32.000 Instead, I expect many more blue votes will come out.

01:47:35.000 Interesting.

01:47:37.000 Very interesting.

01:47:39.000 All right, we'll grab some more.

01:47:41.000 Shake and Bake says, YouTube is preventing me from posting my message, so I wrote this one to tell you about censorship.

01:47:48.000 Very interesting.

01:47:49.000 Well, okay.

01:47:50.000 Sorry to hear about that. 1.00

01:47:51.000 YouTube is stupid. 0.99

01:47:54.000 We will grab some more. 1.00

01:47:55.000 Here's a good one.

01:47:56.000 William Montgrain says, please pray for Israel and Gaza.

01:48:00.000 Amen.

01:48:01.000 Yeah, we want peace.

01:48:01.000 Absolutely.

01:48:02.000 All right.

01:48:04.000 Gso59 says, oh sure, because 18 to 25 year olds are just kids and don't know any better.

01:48:10.000 When they claim they themselves are terrorists, they can't be held responsible for themselves.

01:48:14.000 No, I agree.

01:48:16.000 It just depends on what they do.

01:48:18.000 Simply saying it, I don't think is enough to do anything.

01:48:21.000 But if they actually do something illegal, then it's advancing the goals of a terrorist organization.

01:48:25.000 I don't see why we would ignore that.

01:48:28.000 Yeah, I mean, how is that usually handled?

01:48:29.000 Like, you'll have rappers saying that they're a member of a gang, but then they're not prosecuted because they go, oh, well, like, they're just being artistic, they haven't said they participated in a specific crime, they weren't threatening to.

01:48:40.000 Yeah.

01:48:41.000 I mean, it would be like if Columbia were to be like, oh, we've identified that student, we're going to be investigating this, maybe.

01:48:47.000 But like, there's not really anything you could do at this point.

01:48:51.000 I just think generally, it is something that Like saying we are Hamas or we are whatever, you know, organization that is recognized as a terrorist group shouldn't be something that our youth develops as like a catchy slogan.

01:49:07.000 I think that's bad and it's concerning that they're like so casually being like, no problem, I'm ISIS.

01:49:13.000 Yeah, some people don't even know that being 18 means that you're a legal adult.

01:49:18.000 And I think they're encouraged not to.

01:49:19.000 I mean, yeah, when I manage the kids, they're like, oh, yeah, we need somebody to be here, an adult to be here when we turn on the, you know, electricity.

01:49:26.000 And I'm like, you guys are all over 18.

01:49:28.000 You're an adult.

01:49:30.000 Mike Spencer says, Jewish people are 0.2% of the world population.

01:49:34.000 Why are they 95% of the news?

01:49:37.000 Why they have their own word for discrimination?

01:49:39.000 Am I allowed to say this?

01:49:40.000 I would love to break this down for you.

01:49:42.000 First, there are many words for small percentage of the population.

01:49:46.000 Trans people, I think, make up what, probably 0.2 or less, actually, of the world's population, and they have the word transphobia.

01:49:52.000 Gay people make up substantially a small percentage of the world's population, and they have their own word as well, homophobia.

01:49:59.000 There are a lot of groups that have words that describe calling out that particular group.

01:50:06.000 The 95% of the news think, ooh, this one's my favorite.

01:50:09.000 There are these memes people post where it's a bunch of people who work in media and they put stars of Davids on their head.

01:50:14.000 And the first thing they'll say is, yes, it is a fact that John Stewart pointed this out exceptionally.

01:50:20.000 There are a lot of people who are Jewish who work in media.

01:50:22.000 And when, if someone points that out and they're called anti-Semitic for saying it, all that does is make things worse.

01:50:29.000 Because people can plainly see there are a lot of people in media, in Hollywood for instance, who are Jewish to the point where people in Hollywood make jokes about how Jewish it is.

01:50:38.000 That being said, there was one, a lot of these are fake.

01:50:43.000 One had Luke Rudkowski on it with the Star of David.

01:50:47.000 I'm dead serious.

01:50:48.000 These people, they post these things and they're just screwing with you because the core element of their argument is quote-unquote Jewish privilege, which means literally nothing to me. 0.96

01:50:58.000 I do not care your religion. 1.00

01:51:00.000 I do not care your ethnic background. 1.00

01:51:01.000 I care about if you're doing work and you're doing good things or you're doing bad things.

01:51:05.000 So on this show, for instance, people have complained that like 20% of the guests are Jewish.

01:51:12.000 And they're like, why is that so high, Tim?

01:51:14.000 And I'm like, because they're conservative.

01:51:16.000 Like, that's it, because conservatives want to come on the show.

01:51:19.000 And I'm like, but also think about the messaging for many of these people.

01:51:22.000 America first, not wanting to fund wars overseas.

01:51:26.000 I'm like, what do you disagree with?

01:51:27.000 And why does the fact that they're Jewish matter at all? 1.00

01:51:30.000 It's the weirdest thing.

01:51:32.000 I'm just, I literally, I think it's weird that you have these identitarians, be it anti-white or anti-Jewish.

01:51:43.000 They basically, the argument is privilege of a specific group.

01:51:45.000 There's too many people running the banks.

01:51:47.000 There's too many people in media.

01:51:48.000 And I'm like, you know, if you changed, if you took everything they said and replaced Jewish with white, you'd get woke activism. 0.52

01:51:54.000 Also, I mean, are they suggesting that you are intentionally selecting your guests on the basis of whether they're Jewish?

01:51:54.000 Identically.

01:51:59.000 Yes.

01:52:00.000 Okay.

01:52:00.000 And the funny thing is, Cassandra MacDonald is the one who does all of the booking, and she's tweeting up a storm critical of Israel non-stop.

01:52:07.000 Cassandra, what are you doing?

01:52:13.000 Yeah, I don't care for the privilege argument.

01:52:16.000 Like, there are too many white people who are doing this, who are doing that. 0.60

01:52:19.000 The funny thing is, when Ye came on the show, and he was saying, who is they though, and all that stuff, on that show we pulled up the CEOs of all these big banks, and they're all Irish guys.

01:52:27.000 Hold on, that is extremely, that is extremely bigoted.

01:52:30.000 Got anything to say for your people over there?

01:52:31.000 What's the word for being bigoted towards Irish people?

01:52:34.000 Probably like, hiberophobia or something.

01:52:37.000 No, that is extremely offensive, and I would appreciate it if you didn't smear my people in that way.

01:52:43.000 Yeah.

01:52:43.000 Thank you.

01:52:44.000 And the funny thing to me about the anti-Israel, like, staunchly, like, Zionist, you're a Zionist, you're, you know, they call you a goy and stuff.

01:52:54.000 Yeah, it's just like...

01:52:56.000 The argument that the U.S.

01:52:57.000 is being secretly controlled by Israel, and I'm like, guys, it's not complicated.

01:53:02.000 The U.S.

01:53:03.000 controls Israel.

01:53:03.000 It's not the other way around.

01:53:05.000 The U.S.

01:53:05.000 is engaging in military intervention in Syria, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Ukraine.

01:53:11.000 We are doing these things not because one tiny nation, Israel, is telling us.

01:53:16.000 We are funding Israel because it's advancing our interests and our goals.

01:53:21.000 But there are people who are absolutely convinced it's the other way around, and I'm like, Oh boy, that would basically negate all of the other military operations the U.S.

01:53:31.000 is engaged in.

01:53:32.000 It makes a little sense.

01:53:33.000 But hey, this isn't to say you're not allowed to criticize Israel.

01:53:37.000 In fact, I encourage people to criticize military operations.

01:53:39.000 I think war is bad.

01:53:41.000 But let's get back to the Super Chats.

01:53:43.000 We should be able to criticize anything if we're doing it during the bounds of the law, right?

01:53:48.000 Yeah.

01:53:49.000 Well, I mean, you can criticize anything.

01:53:52.000 They're just bad people who want to censor you.

01:53:54.000 All right, Project Editan says, Lord Spoonanon's color-changing laptop lid is distracting AF.

01:54:00.000 Who is he talking about?

01:54:02.000 Does someone have a color-changing laptop lid?

01:54:04.000 Oh, is that what he called me?

01:54:05.000 Yes.

01:54:07.000 Okay, because I don't answer to that name, so you can keep looking at it.

01:54:11.000 Also, it's a blame on me that this makes total sense laptop lid.

01:54:14.000 I've never thought about that before, ever in my life.

01:54:16.000 I've never thought of it being a lid.

01:54:17.000 It's, again, a screen.

01:54:18.000 Yeah, a screen.

01:54:18.000 A screen is what I would think.

01:54:20.000 That's funny.

01:54:20.000 But you do use it to close your laptop.

01:54:23.000 By the way, my Amazon account, I'm an Amazon influencer, and a couple days after I went on your show, and I was talking about the OnlyFansGirl, my account got terminated, and I don't know why, really.

01:54:23.000 Yeah.

01:54:36.000 And that's the thing about all of these big tech companies, like if you get shut down and you're like, please explain to me, they're like, no, we won't.

01:54:43.000 We have all of your data and we can hold you hostess forever.

01:54:45.000 I sent an email to Andy Jassy.

01:54:47.000 He's the new CEO and I'm going to start tweeting at him if they don't help me out.

01:54:51.000 But I obviously didn't, they said it was malware.

01:54:54.000 So it could be people, it could, I didn't like post malware links, but it could be people that don't like me, my opinions on the internet or whatever that they can.

01:55:03.000 We just don't know.

01:55:03.000 They can put your link.

01:55:04.000 Yeah, you don't know.

01:55:05.000 Or maybe I made a mistake.

01:55:06.000 Who knows?

01:55:07.000 It's a mystery.

01:55:07.000 I kind of doubt it, but you know.

01:55:09.000 It's a whole revenue stream that is now gone.

01:55:11.000 And so that's why it's, it's just, it's hard to be a creator these days, but everybody wants to do it.

01:55:16.000 All right.

01:55:16.000 Marian Holtzman says it's up to parents to censor their kids' access to the internet, not the government's job.

01:55:21.000 The government will use this to censor your channel too.

01:55:24.000 Why can't you see this?

01:55:25.000 S-M-F-H. 1.00

01:55:27.000 They won't use this to censor my channel.

01:55:29.000 National security letters already exist.

01:55:31.000 They've already censored my channel, as in, YouTube has.

01:55:35.000 This bill has no impact on that.

01:55:37.000 This is what I don't understand.

01:55:38.000 But I do appreciate the super chat.

01:55:40.000 What I don't understand is why we have this...

01:55:43.000 This TikTok divestment bill, which literally doesn't ban TikTok, even though everyone calls it that, and I get it's the colloquial name, it would result in it being banned from U.S.

01:55:52.000 services, but it would still be allowed to exist and operate in the U.S.

01:55:56.000 Just the servers would have to be hosted overseas, and you'd have to go to TikTok.us to use it.

01:56:01.000 So imagine everyone saying, oh no, they banned TikTok, so I'm going to open up my browser and go to TikTok.

01:56:06.000 Yeah, it's not banned.

01:56:07.000 It's just a foreign server.

01:56:08.000 They're not saying you can't access the United States.

01:56:10.000 They're not IP banning it.

01:56:11.000 None of that.

01:56:11.000 It would still literally just go to the website.

01:56:13.000 It's there.

01:56:13.000 Really?

01:56:14.000 Yeah.

01:56:15.000 So what the bill would do is it would require U.S. 0.94

01:56:17.000 services not to work with TikTok.

01:56:20.000 So that's it. So that means tiktok.tv, or whatever, to the loo. And you'd still be able to go to the website, your

01:56:28.000 account would still exist. Everyone would just have to use a

01:56:31.000 website from now on. And that's not even hard. You can create a

01:56:33.000 shortcut for your phone. So the app basically exists. The weirdest thing. But more importantly, for the longest

01:56:39.000 time, it was in this country, the belief that it should be illegal to allow children into a porn store.

01:56:46.000 But for some reason, because of the internet, the argument now is, no, no, no, it's the parent's job.

01:56:52.000 If a kid wanders into an adult bookstore, that's the parent's fault.

01:56:55.000 The guy working at the store should allow the child in.

01:56:58.000 What?

01:56:58.000 No!

01:56:59.000 What?

01:56:59.000 As if we're such a pro-family society that we delegate everything to the family and to parents.

01:57:06.000 I mean, we have social safety nets for basically everything to the point where we've totally usurped the role of the family.

01:57:11.000 But then when people say, hey, it's actually kind of difficult to prevent my child from being brainwashed by these extremely well-funded social media algorithms.

01:57:18.000 Can the government do something?

01:57:19.000 We go, well, isn't that your job?

01:57:21.000 There's a cartoon for you.

01:57:22.000 It's, uh, it's CCP guys wearing, like, communist clothes on the street corner, like, looking around.

01:57:27.000 And a kid walks up, and they're like, hey, kid, hey, kid, wanna be a communist?

01:57:31.000 And then there's a guy, and he's like, I think we should stop allowing them to do this.

01:57:34.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey, it's up to the parents to decide.

01:57:36.000 It's up to the parents.

01:57:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:37.000 This guy's luring kids into an alley and giving them the little red book, or whatever.

01:57:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:42.000 No, it's so disturbing.

01:57:43.000 It's so disturbing, right?

01:57:44.000 Like, here's the thing.

01:57:45.000 It is also a parent's job to make sure that their child doesn't eat poison, okay?

01:57:50.000 But we still have regulations to prevent food distributors from creating poisonous foods.

01:57:57.000 Look at that.

01:57:58.000 Look at that.

01:57:59.000 Parents having a responsibility does not mean we don't also need some kind of social fail-safe.

01:58:03.000 Well, the carrot on the stick is fame, and we're living in a society that has a deep fame addiction, and kids do not feel validated if they do not get the likes or the views, and it's creating little baby narcissist sociopaths, I think, that grow up to be extremely insecure.

01:58:22.000 And that's why I think that people need, if you're going to be an influencer, if you're going to be a content creator, you can't be driven just by your ego.

01:58:30.000 You have to at least stand for something, you know?

01:58:33.000 But when you stand for something, you have to be prepared that people are going to try to shut you up.

01:58:37.000 All right, Ian Birch says, Hi Tim and crew, our cat Seamus passed about a week ago after 15 great years.

01:58:46.000 I'm glad to hear you mention Seamus and what he's got going on as it reminds me of our cat.

01:58:51.000 Also, hi Seamus, glad to see you're back.

01:58:53.000 The new studio must have spoons. 0.94

01:58:55.000 Thank you so much.

01:58:56.000 I haven't seen any spoons here.

01:58:57.000 Except for the last part.

01:58:59.000 So, the last part.

01:59:00.000 Well, we have plastic spoons here.

01:59:02.000 Actually, we have really nice, you know, stylish spoons.

01:59:06.000 You do?

01:59:07.000 Yeah.

01:59:08.000 And they're all engraved, too.

01:59:10.000 It says, do not take Seamus.

01:59:12.000 Do not remove at Seamus.

01:59:15.000 I wouldn't do that.

01:59:16.000 I would not do that.

01:59:16.000 I would never do that.

01:59:17.000 You know me.

01:59:18.000 I would never do that.

01:59:19.000 You know me.

01:59:20.000 You know I wouldn't do that.

01:59:21.000 You know me.

01:59:22.000 It was funny because last night after the show, Seamus the cat's walking up, and I said something like, Seamus!

01:59:31.000 And then I hear Seamus just walking in and saying something like, I'm gonna put that cat down.

01:59:38.000 I would never say that.

01:59:39.000 And I was like, well, you should know me.

01:59:40.000 I would never say something like that.

01:59:42.000 I said, you shouldn't have picked him up.

01:59:44.000 Yeah, no, and I was like, why am I holding him?

01:59:46.000 Getting hair everywhere.

01:59:47.000 Two Seamuses were looking at each other.

01:59:49.000 They're both deeply confused.

01:59:49.000 And then we locked eyes, and I was like, he's not so bad.

01:59:52.000 Well, the first time I walked in, I was like, two Seamuses?

01:59:55.000 I was like, who's who?

01:59:57.000 And then we got into a fight and rolled around, and then you couldn't tell who was who?

02:00:00.000 I was like, Tim, it's him!

02:00:01.000 It's him!

02:00:02.000 Well, at first, it was because Seamus Coghlan was scratching the back of my couch.

02:00:07.000 He's known to do that.

02:00:08.000 He's just like, you know, he's a little bit feral.

02:00:10.000 He's not like used to being in houses, especially nice houses.

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02:00:42.000 Ari, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:44.000 Yeah, just thank you for having me.

02:00:45.000 I'm finally like able to talk and, you know, if you guys can follow me at Little Miss Jacob pretty much everywhere and my YouTube is LittleMissJacob.tv.

02:00:57.000 Thanks for everybody's support.

02:00:58.000 It's been really fun.

02:00:59.000 My name is Seamus Coughlin.

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