On today's show, we discuss the aftermath of the May Day protests across the country, including the burning of 15 police vehicles in Portland, Oregon, and the ridiculous antics of children playing cops and robbers in Los Angeles. Plus, the Daily Wire is accused of gagging Candace Owens and limiting her ability to debate Ben Shapiro.
00:01:07.000The police in Portland were tearing down the Portland camps and we have a rather humorous video of the children playing cops and robbers with half We've got a bunch of other news.
00:01:16.000garbage cans, running into trying to, I guess, tackle a cop and then getting arrested. Because these kids are playing
00:01:22.000games. They're playing revolutionary and empire. It's a silly game. We'll talk about that. We got a bunch of other
00:01:28.000news, a big story that's been going around is the question of
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00:05:57.000And I understand why you said suspected, but I'm just gonna go ahead and say I don't think the vehicle spontaneously combusted, and I don't think someone accidentally tripped and fell and dropped their kerosene and lighter onto 15 vehicles all in the same night.
00:06:11.000I think it's fair to say it's arson, and I think it's fair to say, you know, they put in the subtitle, That it came on a day when Antifa destroyed businesses downtown.
00:06:22.000It also came on a day when the police are raiding their encampment and arresting people at Portland University.
00:06:28.000So I would just like to say, in my humble opinion, Antifa and far leftists torched a bunch of police vehicles yesterday.
00:06:37.000You know what the challenging thing with this is?
00:06:41.000We've been covering this stuff for so long that I feel like it is... You ever drink a Coke or something and then try and eat ice cream right afterwards and it tastes like there's no sweetness to it because you've desensitized?
00:07:08.000I can understand why Post Millennial is doing this.
00:07:09.000If you haven't, you know, arrest and convict someone, you have to say alleged and be careful of the language.
00:07:13.000But probably, probably the rioters who were involved in the Antifa also burned the car.
00:07:20.000These were revolutionary communists, they are terrorists, and I endorse the state stomping the... like, just stomping the hell out of them.
00:07:30.000Find them, throw them in jail because they are trying to destroy the country.
00:09:30.000And it was crazy because I was there a few days in advance, and so I'm walking around, I'm going to the store, I think I like bought a phone or something, I needed like an upgrade, and there are signs that they take posters saying this person is a Nazi, and it's pictures of like random people, and I'm like, I don't know what this is, but they were everywhere!
00:09:48.000They just put up these posters of people, and now, over the past several years, we've seen all the news that the downtown area is basically gone, Nobody wants to have a business there.
00:09:57.000It's like a zombie apocalypse now and all the businesses finally gave up and people are now working from home.
00:10:03.000So there's no people during the day, which means there's no restaurants.
00:10:06.000There's no nightlife and it's just they killed it.
00:10:11.000I remember listening to this interview NBR did with local business owners, probably on, you know, the downtown area of, I know it was in Portland, and they were saying, well, we don't necessarily believe in the things they believe in, but we will put the signs up so they know that we're friendly to their causes, and basically in hopes of being left alone, and it never worked.
00:10:29.000These people that are, you know, Trying to fight the cops and trying to, you know, attack the cops and stuff like that.
00:10:35.000These are the same people that shot that MAGA dude.
00:10:39.000Like, they're of the exact same political bent, right?
00:10:43.000They're the same people that would smash in a building Uh, you know, smashing someone's property because they, you know, they didn't have the right sticker in the window or whatever.
00:10:55.000These are the same people that will stop emergency services from getting through their protest while people are having heart attacks or dying.
00:11:05.000This is, they're all revolutionary communists.
00:11:07.000They specifically say they want to take down the United States.
00:11:12.000Give them the fight they're looking for.
00:11:14.000Let the government send the police in and fight and go get them.
00:11:19.000I'm seeing all these people on social media being like, the free speech warriors are not so for free speech anymore.
00:11:24.000And I'm like, oh, the communists are crying.
00:11:26.000These far leftists are smashing up people's businesses, putting people's lives in danger, and then they get mad when the police comes in and gives them exactly what they ask for.
00:11:40.000And I'm like, so this is what they're saying.
00:11:42.000They think they're justified in smashing things up, burning vehicles, and they've killed people.
00:11:48.000Because in the end, it'll be justified.
00:11:51.000Yeah, in the end they will create government doing just this.
00:11:54.000So when they demand government based on violent force, I say the police should go in and respond in kind under the law, which the law allows, to stop violent criminals because they're saying, They're saying they want government of force.
00:13:28.000They literally just threw Israel's name in there as an excuse to go and smash up these corporations.
00:13:34.000And if these were private businesses owned by a person, I would endorse the person getting out there and defending their business.
00:13:42.000And no one who's going on this scavenger hunt, so to speak, is actually going to verify any of this.
00:13:46.000They're going to read this piece of paper and be like, haha, cool.
00:13:49.000It's sort of illogical, but it does speak to the control this movement has over the masses, that it's brought together.
00:13:57.000They are willing to Create an ideological incentive for them to do chaos and the people are not willing to say, hey, I'm an independent thinker and this is why I don't think I'm going to do that.
00:14:07.000They're a tiny minority that intimidate the normal people that want to live normal lives that go to work.
00:14:15.000Every day, that do the things that keep society together and keep society going, and they do this because they know that they don't have anything to lose, because they have no lives, they don't have jobs, they don't have to go to work, they're not the normal people.
00:14:31.000So they go and they make a stink, and they scare the crap out of the normal people, so the normal people are afraid to do anything about it.
00:14:40.000But I also wonder, you ever see that meme where it was, I don't know if it was like a guy telling a story in some post, he said that he rented an apartment and then one day he heard a gunshot and he got worried and, you know, he went out to his backyard or whatever and looked around and he saw his neighbor holding a gun and his neighbor said, don't worry, that was me, just fired into the ground.
00:15:00.000I do this every once in a while to keep the property taxes down.
00:15:05.000Yeah, I wonder if what's actually happening is it would be actually a hilarious story that there's a conspiracy of wealthy, like generationally wealthy white liberals who live in Portland who want to buy up as much property as possible, so every night they dress up like Antifa and claim, oh Israel, oh geez!
00:15:25.000Then they cause all this damage, everybody leaves, they sink the property value, they buy it up, and then three years, They stopped doing it, you know what I mean?
00:15:32.000Ryan Long had a comedy bit about this Antifa glass repair.
00:15:35.000And he's like, by night we are Antifa, by day we repair windows.
00:15:40.000And then they get a call like, oh wow, oh I can't believe that happened.
00:15:42.000Yeah, we'll be right there with the new window for you.
00:15:44.000I actually do have, I know a guy, like we're mutuals on Xbox Live that repairs windows in Portland.
00:15:55.000Seamus, Seamus, if you're listening, Someone already commented in chat, Seamus, we need you.
00:16:01.000Seamus, it's a video where it's a guy.
00:16:03.000Actually, Seamus might have already done this.
00:16:05.000It's a guy driving around in like a Porsche or like a Model S plaid.
00:16:11.000And he's got gold diamond studded sunglasses and a grill.
00:16:15.000And it's just like a glass repair company in Portland.
00:16:19.000I learned today that the majority of renters in the US, the people who rent their homes or apartments, live in basically 240 counties of the nation's just over 3,000.
00:16:30.000And a lot of them are obviously around LA, in New York City, things like that.
00:16:34.000And so I would be interested to see the cross map of Antifa activity and renters, people who aren't actually tied to the community.
00:16:43.000They're sort of claiming social ties to the community.
00:16:45.000But if it got really bad, they would all leave if they wanted to.
00:16:50.000So anyways, that's for my think tank that I just invented right now.
00:17:07.000Well, she's of means where she's fighting back politically, and she's actually trying to seed people who aren't crazy in the government.
00:17:16.000Because, I mean, Portland only happened because the mayor and the city council and eventually the police let it happen, and they let it fester, and they let it get big.
00:17:26.000And pretty soon it becomes this culture where all of these kids are doing this for a living.
00:17:35.000So the question is, can you ever take it back?
00:17:38.000Can you actually ever restore it so that people who work and produce and create and generate revenue for the city, will they actually come back?
00:17:49.000That's a question because you can also just migrate and move somewhere else and live somewhere else.
00:18:13.000The idea that you're going to government and being like, we better get good people in means good people aren't trying to get in and you're actively trying to encourage people to engage.
00:18:22.000And that's a good thing, but it does mean that there's no shared culture.
00:18:26.000If you go to a rural neighborhood, a tight-knit, small community, Antifa shows up, the locals are going to come out and they're going to be like, don't try it.
00:18:49.000Yeah, and the cops are like, well, the government won't take our side even though they're writing our checks.
00:18:53.000I mean, I think what's interesting is that a lot of this is not solution-oriented, whereas if you have investment in your community, if you have a shared culture, you want to see it thrive.
00:19:04.000You are part of something and you don't look around saying like, bah, burn it all down.
00:19:08.000But with all of these attacks, especially in Portland, it's ultimately about the chaos.
00:20:20.000And then these people who refuse to complain about it and let it happen, flee, and then bring their politics to other cities.
00:20:25.000Yeah, it's not, it doesn't take- It's a rat utopia experiment.
00:20:29.000It doesn't take a lot for a police force to deter and prevent that type of behavior.
00:20:37.000It doesn't take a lot of bashing heads together and stuff.
00:20:43.000The police generally know the people that are causing problems in an area.
00:20:49.000You talk to police and they see the same faces all the time.
00:20:53.000They get to know the people because they do spend some time in the community and the people that cause problems continuously cause problems.
00:21:01.000The police do have the ability and the know-how to clean an area up and make these kind of behaviors stop.
00:21:08.000You just have to have a DA, you have to have a legislature or a judiciary that will keep these people off the streets.
00:21:19.000Police move in to clear Gaza Camp from Portland State University library arrests made.
00:21:23.000It's not so much this story that I want to talk about.
00:21:26.000It is a video explaining and helping you understand what's going on.
00:21:32.000I can tell you very simply, Portland is the city equivalent of a mom at an ice cream shop with her nine-year-old son who's going, Mom, I want three scoops of ice cream.
00:21:45.000And she goes, OK, please just stop yelling and I'll give you whatever you want.
00:24:01.000And Portland is having a terrible time.
00:24:05.000There aren't that many police in Portland.
00:24:07.000I think in 2021, police recruitment hit an all-time low and crime was just on the rise.
00:24:12.000I mean, I don't think anyone who's interested in law enforcement is like, and I'll be a police officer in Portland because they don't want to deal with this, right?
00:24:18.000If you could get a nice job in a nicer suburb or, you know, in Idaho or somewhere else, you would do that because this is just ridiculous.
00:24:26.000And I think ultimately, you're kind of at the mercies of these impulsive PERMA children.
00:24:31.000I think these kids are actually surprised that the cops are going to do anything because the expectation and the tradition and the history of the last, whatever it is, four or five years is that we can do whatever we want and no one's going to, no one's going to push back.
00:24:46.000And, and then he, then he's on his ass and what just happened.
00:24:51.000Not only that, like, like Tim was saying, this is probably a symptom of kids that have not had any real discipline growing up right now.
00:24:59.000I'm not talking about physical discipline, but like, I know there are a lot of people my age that are raising kids that their kid has never heard them say no.
00:25:10.000It's a kid in an ice cream shop screaming that he wants an extra scoop.
00:25:15.000That is what's going on with a lot of this.
00:25:18.000And then they run into reality, which is a police officer that has been told, no, all these kids are going to jail.
00:25:26.000So all those police officers are gonna round you up and they're gonna throw you into a van to bring you to jail.
00:25:32.000And the problem is, however, when things like this happen where the kid charges a cop full speed with a plastic shield like a moron...
00:26:08.000They have no honor, they have no integrity, they have no understanding of how the world works.
00:26:12.000I beg and pray that they get the world they're asking for because then they will cry buckets when they realize what they've done to this beautiful society that we once had.
00:27:05.000Joshua P. Hill says, today starts with cops attacking students for their solidarity with Gaza in Atlanta, Chicago, and Princeton, New Jersey.
00:27:12.000The Free Palestine Movement, like every single movement for a better world, requires the abolition of the police.
00:27:17.000And then two days later, he tweeted, white supremacists are now marching in Charleston, West Virginia, with no police in sight.
00:27:28.000So there's like, all of these cities, but Portland again is this festering example of everything they do wrong.
00:27:36.000It's not, they talk about restorative justice, but what they mean is catch and release.
00:27:41.000No matter what you do, no matter what you burn, no matter what you break, we're gonna pick you up and then let you go without even being arrested.
00:27:50.000And we've done a documentary about restorative justice.
00:27:53.000Real restorative justice teaches young people who do something wrong accountability.
00:28:17.000I'm loathe to bring up all the college campus protests, but I think this is something we're seeing with the generation of children who are told activism and virtue signaling is the most important thing that you could do.
00:28:35.000They think that they are on the right side of history and therefore there aren't consequences, which is very different, I think, than people who did protest for civil rights in the past or, you know, other people who have taken to protesting as a form of political activism.
00:28:47.000I think previously people knew you were taking a risk, that you would face arrest, that there could be consequences that could affect you long term, but you really felt like this was worth it.
00:28:55.000This is like the opposite, saying we shouldn't face consequences because what we're doing is the most important thing ever.
00:29:04.000Again, I think I talk about this a little bit too much, but like when you're a young person, if you're looking around and even if it's just 30% of people your age, if they're acting like this, does that make you want to be like that?
00:29:15.000I mean, if you grew up in Portland or if you went to college there and you love it as a city, but you're watching it get torched, do you look at these people and say, well, keep up the good work.
00:29:59.000And now they're going to F around and find out that maybe at some point, Even these cities don't tolerate that kind of behavior because it's a very practical thing.
00:30:11.000If they run out of a tax base at some point, the government says, you know what?
00:30:18.000I think what we are seeing is when the summer of love happened, those who are more inclined to merit, to build and be responsible, leave.
00:30:31.000What's left is Well, what happens if you have ten children in a classroom, and the teacher goes, I can't do this, I'm done, and leaves?
00:30:40.000Well, the kids are gonna start just doing random things, they're gonna trash the place, they're gonna be drawing all over the walls, it's gonna be bedlam.
00:30:47.000So, I'd like to believe that in Portland, there's a breaking point, and people finally say, enough, we need to get our city in order.
00:30:56.000Property values go down, so the people who own buildings will be like, I better just sell this.
00:31:00.000Well, they're not going to get their asking price, so let's sell it at a loss to someone who's thinking, wow, 10% under market, I'll take it.
00:31:05.000And then they go, oops, I shouldn't have bought this.
00:31:08.000Property values will continue to tank.
00:31:09.000Many people will probably default on their loans.
00:31:12.000We're already seeing this in San Francisco, where large corporations, like the Westfield Mall, and I believe it was, what was it, the Hilton, or there was another hotel, basically told their creditor, you know what?
00:31:26.000And just dipped out and abandoned an entire mall just like in the middle of the city, saying, there's no point.
00:31:32.000So what's happening when you have no community is that no one wants to be the person to lay the brick so that every day we can have shelter.
00:31:41.000And I've experienced this growing up and it's disheartening, but throughout my life I have found it has become increasingly difficult to convince people to do any amount of work.
00:31:53.000I believe it's the millennial generation.
00:31:54.000I believe millennials are mostly lost.
00:31:57.000They want everything and they want to do nothing.
00:31:59.000I tell people, I remember back when I was living in Chicago skateboarding and I went to all of my friends and I said, we're always complaining about the harsh winters and our inability to skate.
00:32:09.000If each of us contribute only 50 bucks a month, we can rent an indoor space.
00:32:13.000And they went, okay, you do it and then let me know.
00:32:55.000And you see that in, like, you saw it in Detroit.
00:32:58.000Like, after 2008, after the auto crisis, not that Detroit was doing great before that, but, like, after that, there was a serious exodus of people.
00:33:29.000He says all the time, and I think he's right, like, poverty doesn't drive crime, but crime drives poverty because crime makes investment leave the area.
00:33:40.000Crime makes people that have means leave.
00:33:43.000If you have the means to leave, that means you're left with poor people, your tax base dries up because even though people refuse to acknowledge it, all of the taxes are paid by a small percentage of Americans.
00:33:57.000So if you drive the wealthy people away, those are also the people that are paying taxes.
00:34:02.000That means your services get worse, your schools get worse, your police forces get worse, all of this stuff.
00:34:08.000is downstream from crime, from unsafe cities.
00:34:13.000You need to have, and this was something that I was complaining about, like when people started talking about ACAB, like the whole ACAB sentiment, right?
00:34:21.000Not the idea that communities don't support your police forces.
00:34:28.000That was going to always mean that you were going to get a lower quality police force.
00:35:05.000But there are a lot of boomers who were like, I don't know what, post-hippie, lazy, do whatever you want for their kids, and now their kids are running around smashing things, shaving their heads, and they're gonna struggle to survive.
00:35:18.000If any one of these kids in Portland, and I know they're adults over the age of 20, but they're functional children, you take 10 of those kids and you teleport them instantly into, I don't know, the middle of Alaska.
00:36:49.000I also think it creates a sense of envy.
00:36:51.000I think when you have a lot of people who don't really have purpose, when they look at people who do, they're filled with jealousy.
00:36:58.000And they can't always name it, but they're like, you are living life in a way that I subconsciously know I want, and therefore the fact that you have something I don't is a threat to me.
00:37:08.000And I think that's part of sort of the materialism that comes with a generation that grew up in prosperity, right?
00:37:15.000That they have so much that they can't think of life without it and they therefore can't empathize with like what they actually need to do to create a life for themselves that's meaningful.
00:37:27.000It is wild to me how many People that I know who grew up, you know, very comfortably.
00:37:33.000A lot of them, their parents were together, provided for them.
00:37:37.000We'll turn around and be like, well, capitalism is a terrible system.
00:37:40.000Like, then tell me which one you would rather live under because you have gotten everything you want out of life because of the system that you are now deciding is so evil.
00:38:03.000Well, let's move on to this next story and we'll get into social drama.
00:38:08.000The New York Post reports Daily Wire obtains gag order against Candace Owens despite Ben Shapiro wanting debate report.
00:38:16.000We also have the original reporting from Glenn Greenwald who says, as the Daily Wire publicly negotiated a debate with Candace Owens, it secretly sought and obtained a gag order against her.
00:38:26.000The argument being that the reason why the debate has never happened is because while Candace Owens was saying let's debate and they were working out the details, behind the scenes the Daily Wire was saying, she can't say these things and thus there won't be a debate.
00:38:38.000I do believe that Glenn Greenwald's, uh, I'll give you my bias.
00:38:42.000I think Glenn Greenwald's report is biased itself.
00:38:45.000And I think it's largely due to Glenn Greenwald's bias against Israel.
00:39:08.000That Candace Owens retweeted a video of Andrew Schultz saying Ben Shapiro has exposed himself as someone who can only debate college students and can't actually debate anybody for real, and the Daily Wire took issue with that and subsequent posts which were likes and retweets that were basically insulting and disparaging the company, and they said, hey, knock that off.
00:39:28.000In Glenn Greenwald's reporting, They mentioned two statements.
00:39:32.000One from Candace Owens saying, he writes, when asked for comment to be included in the story, Owens replied, I wish I could comment on this, but I can't, can neither confirm nor deny.
00:39:42.000And then went on to say, Boring said, your story is inaccurate to the point of being false, though he did not specify a single inaccuracy, nor did he deny that the Daily Wire had sought and obtained a gag order on Owens at the same time they were publicly posturing as wanting a debate with her.
00:39:57.000The confirmation we obtained of all these facts is indisputable.
00:40:00.000Boring added, I'm sure you can appreciate how fraught a high-profile breakup like this is.
00:40:03.000For that reason, we are trying to resolve our issues with Candace privately.
00:40:07.000The issue I see right here, and this is the example that I use, is that when it comes to statements from Candace Owens, they're fine to accept that she says, I can't talk about it.
00:40:17.000When Boring says, You know, we're trying to keep this private.
00:40:20.000They insinuate that because he's not going into detail, it implies untoward behavior.
00:40:25.000That's why I say Glenn Greenwald's biased on this one.
00:40:27.000That being said, the story is interesting and I'm curious what you guys think as to the debate between Candace and Ben Shapiro and Israel and all that jazz.
00:40:35.000I mean, it strikes me as hypocritical.
00:40:38.000I'm mostly on Team Candice on this one because The Daily Wire has made a brand out of being pro-speech.
00:40:50.000And I get contracts and I get bad breakups with businesses, but this seems particularly duplicitous, saying that I want to debate you, but I'm going to legally shut you down so that I never have to debate you.
00:41:06.000But that's the assumption that's being made by Glenn Greenwald.
00:41:10.000The argument being that Glenn's effectively making an opinion piece where he says, we have evidence of a gag order and that is why there is no debate.
00:41:20.000It would certainly seem that in a legal context, if the Daily Wire was seeking a gag order, no arbitrator would agree with them if they were also publicly asking for a debate.
00:41:29.000So there seems to be components of the story missing.
00:41:32.000From what I read, so Chris Burtman, who's man of Burt on Twitter, he's a writer at Skinner.
00:41:36.000First off, this weekend that all this blew up, he had some of the funniest takes in response to all of this.
00:41:41.000He's fun follow if you guys want to check him out.
00:41:43.000From what I read from his coverage today, part of the issue is that The Daily Wire is saying that by calling for this debate, she violated her agreement with the company, which again, I don't really feel like I have a dog in this fight, but I think it seems strange that they're saying this back and forth that you had on Twitter calling for this debate is the violation of the contract when also Daily Wire employees were participating in it.
00:42:07.000You know, Ben was in it until he had to log off for religious reasons and then Jerry Boring picked it back up.
00:42:12.000And so it does seem slightly confusing to me that you know, they were publicly having this debate with her
00:42:19.000and then maybe later went back and said, actually, we've decided that that was a violation of our
00:43:53.000And they told Candace, the arbitrator says, everyone stop posting.
00:43:57.000And now the Daily Wire is getting flack because they're not answering Glenn's questions.
00:44:00.000Yeah, and I can understand if you're Glenn Greenwald, him saying like, your reporting is false to the point of inaccuracy, like, you take that personally, especially when you're then like, okay, tell me why, and he's like, I can't, which Jeremy Boring might be legally bound not to, it's just, it's a very specific criticism to Levy at a reporter, your reporting is false.
00:44:21.000Incorrect to the point of inaccuracy, but you can't tell me where I went wrong.
00:44:38.000I'm not I don't know like the idea that the daily wire says that they want to actually if that's the case that they would say okay we want to actually debate with you but then in back channels if if that's the case that's Probably the lamest thing that you could possibly do, you know?
00:44:57.000Otherwise, like I said, I'm not even sure what they're gonna debate about.
00:45:01.000Is it just like, is Israel good or is Israel bad?
00:45:04.000Is it anti-Semitic to say we shouldn't fund Israel and stuff like that?
00:45:07.000Is claiming that Israel's policy is similar to the Nazis anti-Semitic?
00:45:14.000Well, I mean, if they're gonna have the debate, like, have the debate, shit, or get off the pot.
00:45:21.000I wonder if the real issue is that Ben and Jeremy are going back and forth, and then someone else, because there's other interested investors involved, said, I don't care.
00:45:31.000Y'all need to shut up because she's in violation of non-disparagement and we don't want to deal with this.
00:45:38.000And ultimately what this comes to is the real issue behind this is literally not Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens and Daily Wire having a gag order or non-disparagement.
00:45:50.000We know what the real underlying issue and the reason why this story is getting the news, right?
00:46:14.000There are a bunch of post-liberal and disaffected liberals.
00:46:19.000Who were very much Democrats, come out now on the anti-woke side.
00:46:24.000When the Israel issue happens, they're instantly standing alongside all the far leftists as it pertains to Israel.
00:46:29.000And so sure enough, like, I do believe Glenn Greenwald is not a credible reporter on a lot of these issues.
00:46:37.000And there are other issues pertaining to, that I've questioned him on the past, pertaining to foreign policy and reporting, where I think he is very, very biased.
00:46:47.000So now you have the issue of Candace Owens, why she left the Daily Wire.
00:46:51.000It's funny because everyone's claiming it has to do with criticism of Israel, and I'm like, Jeremy Boring actually defended her when she criticized Israel policy and US funding.
00:47:01.000He said she's welcome to be here, she's allowed to give her opinions.
00:47:04.000And then her contract ended and she left.
00:47:07.000And now everyone's like, aha, it's because she criticized Israel.
00:47:10.000Or it's like, I don't know, her contract ended and she left.
00:47:13.000She realized she could make more money somewhere else.
00:47:15.000She didn't want to work with these guys.
00:47:18.000Yeah, I think the big thing is that there was obvious tension between her and Ben Shapiro.
00:47:22.000There's that video of him, I think it was at some sort of private dinner, you know, criticizing her pretty intensely.
00:47:28.000But it is extremely difficult from the outside to say, you know, especially because we're in a political space, like how much is actual...
00:47:37.000political ideological difference as opposed to like personality and contractual, you know, debate.
00:47:43.000I think there are people who believe similar things that don't get along.
00:47:46.000And I think there are people who believe completely different things that do get along.
00:47:50.000It's hard to see when you're sort of enmeshed in all of this, which one is which.
00:47:54.000I think it is, you know, no matter how it plays out, I am sad to say that this debate isn't going to happen.
00:48:00.000I think it would have been really interesting.
00:48:02.000Neither personality involved is obligated to go into personal details on it, but I think some of the topics that they comment on, having had the debate, you know, I think the internet would have liked it.
00:48:12.000The internet would have absolutely liked it.
00:48:14.000It would have been an absolute S show though, I think, personally.
00:48:19.000That's why the internet would love it.
00:48:23.000In the vein of internet drama surrounding Israel, Let's jump to this next story, which starts with the Defiant L's post that I'd mentioned in a previous segment.
00:48:34.000This is where a, uh, I'll give you the news right away.
00:49:17.000He posted completely contradictory demands only two days apart.
00:49:21.000Certainly, if I want to steel man his position, It's actually that the police attacked the Free Palestine, but didn't attack the white supremacists.
00:49:31.000But we can certainly say, I don't think these people think that deeply, and I'm not gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.
00:49:36.000In response to Elon Musk's post, One guy, Chris Futris-Z, says you work for Jews, to Elon Musk.
00:49:45.000With a post from Nick Fuentes that reads, heh, what does it say about our society that the cops let BLM torch our cities but won't let students criticize Israel?
00:49:53.000It means Jews control America, that is the obvious conclusion.
00:49:57.000I certainly don't think that logic is there, but certainly Nick said it.
00:50:01.000And Elon Musk responded, While I don't condone all the actions of any one group, I must admit to being openly philo-semitic and generally try to see the good in all people.
00:50:11.000Goya Bean Groyper responds with this AI-enhanced photo of Nick Fuentes.
00:50:17.000I don't know if it's actually enhanced.
00:50:41.000Clair responded, this will get enormous backlash.
00:50:43.000But if it is to be a free speech platform, it is the right move.
00:50:46.000I say this as someone who has been viciously attacked by his followers for years now.
00:50:50.000I do believe Nick was also incredibly radicalized as a result of censorship.
00:50:54.000And then Elon says, fate loves irony but hates hypocrisy.
00:50:57.000I cannot claim to be a defender of free speech but then permanently ban someone who hasn't violated the law, no matter how much I disagree with what they say.
00:51:04.000This will probably cause us to lose a lot of advertisers and makes me sad, but a principle is a principle.
00:51:10.000And thus, Elon Musk has pledged to restore Nick Fuentes, and my comment on Twitter is that, seeing that, I said, Elon Musk is based AF.
00:51:22.000I think his logic is not sound, but I certainly believe he has a right to say his opinions and be challenged.
00:51:28.000And the example I'd like to give is that woman from the Westboro Baptist Church, famously on Twitter, spreading her views, getting challenged, and being de-radicalized by the exposure to a larger community.
00:51:40.000So, like, it's not like Nick has anything to say that is worse than other people on Twitter.
00:51:47.000There are currently people on Twitter that say things that are far more offensive or whatever than Nick says, like, without a question.
00:51:56.000Guaranteed, just the fact that his name has left my mouth means that my mentions are going to have, someone's going to, there's going to be like a meme of someone pointing at me saying you're a Jew or something like that.
00:52:08.000You think he's the scapegoat for this issue, though?
00:52:10.000I mean, he is, but it doesn't matter because there's always going to be, as long as you're not, like, banning people at all for talking, you know, banning people for talking about Israel at all, there's going to be people that are going to say things that are, you know, that are going to be, you know, buck wild, that are going to be, like, you'd expect to find on 4chan and stuff unless you're really policing that.
00:52:29.000So bringing him back is not going to make the, make Twitter or X any, like, significantly different.
00:52:36.000I unfortunately have been exposed to Nick Fuentes on random occasions, and I've never found anything to like about him or agree with him on, but I agree with Tim that this is a based move by Elon Musk.
00:53:39.000And it's like, okay, well, yeah, sure, then some, some.
00:53:42.000Then there will be like, all men are taller than women.
00:53:45.000All, you know, and like, you know, the logic puzzle, right?
00:53:48.000So when I say, the logic is that sound, it's a great leap.
00:53:52.000There is so much information missing in that statement to lead to the conclusion that Jews control America because some protests got shut down by the police, while many others were defended.
00:54:04.000I certainly think there are interests that are pro-Israel, but here's ultimately what it comes to.
00:54:11.000And I think the reason why Nick should be allowed back on Twitter, on X, by Elon and why Elon is based, is so that these conversations will emerge.
00:54:20.000The conversation around, I'll give you one example.
00:54:22.000You have a lot of people, especially Elad Eliyahu on the show, was making reference to certain comments about Israel, and he says, don't you think that that's anti-Semitic?
00:54:31.000And I said, criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic.
00:54:33.000Israel is a government, like any other country.
00:54:36.000I don't hate Muslims when I criticize Saudi Arabia for their policy towards Yemen, because they have nothing to do with Qatar or what, like Malaysia.
00:54:45.000And so, I think they have blasphemy laws over there too.
00:54:48.000I can criticize their government, and if their government adopts a theocratic system of governance, I can criticize that too.
00:54:54.000The problem is, while you've got people like Elad or Ben or other people saying this thing, The inverse is, many of the fans of Nick, and I don't want to say Nick does this personally because I don't know, but his followers respond to comments about Israel with comments about Jews every single time.
00:55:16.000Like right now, there will be people in the chat saying, Goy and Shabos, and I'm like, making references to blanket broad Jewish practices because of the government of Israel's actions is exactly what Ben Shapiro and a lot are talking about when they say you are being anti-Semitic.
00:55:33.000And so if you were to say that because the military-industrial complex, which has billions, hundreds of billions invested in their Middle Eastern outpost of Israel, If you were to take the logic there, because the U.S.
00:55:49.000is also funding Ukraine much more right now than Israel, they're not coming out and saying Ukraine controls the United States.
00:55:56.000Certainly there are arguments about the AIPAC and how long it's been around and the strength of their lobby and everything like that.
00:56:02.000But the issue then becomes people believe that because politicians are upset, Biden in particular, Oh, for people criticizing US military policy and foreign policy, the response is then, Jews, as a whole religious and ethnic group, are in control of the United States.
00:56:23.000If you said Israel controls the United States, I'd still say you were wrong, but at least that's closer.
00:56:27.000And you can't, like, very rarely can you separate, not saying that there aren't people that are separate that make the arguments, But if you have people criticizing Israel in a public forum, the people that don't like Jews are going to be right there with them.
00:56:43.000So being able to delineate between people that are just criticizing Israel as a state and people that don't like Jewish people, it's real hard.
00:56:52.000Especially when you're dealing with random people on the internet or whatever.
00:56:57.000Like, any topic that you're like, I'm criticizing this, the people who actually hate, you know.
00:57:01.000If you were to criticize the Catholic Church, people who hate Catholics to their core are also going to be there, even if you just generally have an objection to the institution.
00:57:12.000You know, when it comes to the issue of Ukraine, and we've been just, like, rabidly anti-funding of Ukraine, no one's accused us of being Ukrainian.
00:57:24.000No one's been like, oh, or like, or, or being Ukraine phobic or anything like that.
00:57:28.000The way that people react about the Jews is crazy.
00:57:33.000Like, I mean, you can have a legitimate conversation about, about Israel and that's fine, but you still are going to attract some people that are going to say some whacked out shit about Jews.
00:57:44.000Is there like an equal, I was thinking about this when it comes to like, You know, the argument that because there are so many, because Jewish people are overrepresented in media and stuff, that shows that they control this, that or otherwise, and I'm like, is there a similar argument about, like, Arabic and Muslim control of oil?
00:58:00.000Because I would argue that oil actually is substantially stronger in terms of control of this planet.
00:58:05.000Our currency is backed by energy, of which the most dominant form being petroleum and coal.
00:58:12.000Our coal, our dollars backed by the US Navy, nuclear weapons.
00:58:18.000Right, but the actual function of the dollar's value is energy.
00:58:23.000And so when you print more, the backing of currency, fiat or otherwise, is the energy output.
00:58:29.000So when I trade money to someone, I'm exchanging that for, at its root, how much energy they can put into a system in exchange for me and the direction of that energy.
00:58:39.000I'd say that the Middle Eastern nations controlling massive portions of global oil trade, the Houthi rebels, you know, firing, shutting down the Red Sea, threatened, like, half the world's oil trade.
00:58:50.000Are we sitting here being like, Muslims are controlling America because of oil?
00:58:57.000Saudi Arabia doing the weapons deals, and then the U.S.
00:58:59.000is bombing Yemen on behalf of Saudis who are upset about it.
00:59:01.000Do we come out and say Saudi Arabia controls the United States?
00:59:04.000The funny thing is, you've got people posting on Twitter these conspiracy theories that Israel was involved in 9-11, and I'm like, Saudis were involved in 9-11!
00:59:13.000policy over oil, and getting us to bomb people on their behalf.
00:59:17.000Where's the argument that Saudis or Muslims control the United States?
00:59:21.000People say the reason that there's tension with Iran is because of Israel, and there's some truth to that, but they ignore the fact that there's absolutely a fight between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
00:59:34.000Iran's Shia Muslim, Saudi Arabia's Sunni.
00:59:37.000There's all kinds of history between the Persians and the Arabs and stuff.
00:59:41.000There's all kinds of reasons for Iran and Saudi Arabia to not get along, and if it wasn't for the fact that Israel's there to take the heat, There would still be regional conflict between Iran and other countries because it's not a monolith in the Middle East.
01:01:32.000I have lots of friends in Israel, so I I've had some of them on my show and I've had liberty perspectives on both sides, but the thing that happens, and I'm surprised that libertarians fall into this trap, when we talk about Netanyahu or the Israelis or the Palestinians, people immediately go full collectivist, blaming the government of Israel for, or blaming all Jews for the government of Israel.
01:02:01.000Or saying that every Palestinian baby that's getting killed right now had it coming because they voted for Hamas.
01:02:56.000That's at least in our backyard, like literally attached to our nation.
01:02:59.000I don't understand why Americans are only motivated by things that are happening abroad.
01:03:05.000I think compassion is good, I think the loss of life is awful, but when do we turn inward
01:03:10.000and say, hey, we have a lot of problems internally and we should start prioritizing them before
01:03:14.000we start intervening on every side of this conflict, by the way.
01:03:18.000It's possible that there's a military-industrial complex that propagandizes this and makes us scared.
01:03:24.000Matt will definitely agree with me on this.
01:03:28.000If we're actually going to be focused on serious problems and be America first, I said it last night and I'm going to say it again.
01:03:35.000We have to focus on unfunded liabilities, focus on Medicare and Medicaid, focus on all that stuff because the dollar is going to be devalued like mad.
01:03:46.000If you think the inflation that we're seeing now is a big deal, it's going to make the inflation that we've had in the past couple of years look like child's play and that also will destabilize the whole world.
01:03:59.000If the US dollar collapses, the problems that will arise from an unmanaged de-dollarization of the whole world cannot be overstated.
01:04:12.000So if you're worried about America, you need to focus on getting in touch with your representatives and making sure they know that you want them to do something about the unfunded liabilities and the national debt.
01:04:23.000The single biggest threat to national security To American way of life, fill in the blank, whatever it is you care about, you should care about that.
01:04:34.000Well, why do you think people don't take it seriously?
01:04:37.000It's an abstract idea like the destruction of the currency and like I was talking, Thomas Massey was on my show just the other night and we're talking about there's a bill that would seize Russian assets to help fund the war in Ukraine.
01:05:08.000That combined with the payments on the debt, that combined with massive monetization of all this money we're sending overseas, this is how empires die.
01:05:21.000And nobody seems to care because it's an abstraction, right?
01:05:24.000And I think Americans don't understand debt themselves.
01:05:27.000I mean, they struggle with mortgages, credit card debt, you know, look at how we got to student loan debt.
01:05:32.000I think the concept of debt is very difficult for Americans to understand on the personal financial level.
01:05:37.000I can't imagine it being applied to the federal financial level.
01:05:40.000What they do understand is that their dollars can't fill their grocery cart anymore.
01:05:44.000And it's the same problem, but it's personalized.
01:06:02.000For everyone listening at home, when you hear politicians talking about mandatory spending, that's what they're talking about.
01:06:08.000So a lot of times they'll use phrases and terms that people aren't familiar with.
01:06:12.000When they're talking about the unfunded liabilities, when they say mandatory spending, that's the stuff they're talking about.
01:06:19.000You have to be aware of the terminology so you know what they're talking about.
01:06:25.000That is the thing that will literally kill America.
01:06:28.000You want to go and stuff your basement full of food?
01:06:32.000This is what you're actually stuffing your basement full of food because of.
01:06:37.000Because this is the biggest threat to the U.S.
01:06:39.000Let's jump to this next story about Trump.
01:06:41.000From Mediaite, oh this one was good, I apologize for this update.
01:06:47.000CNN's Jake Tapper reports on Michael Cohen's, we'll say this in a second, Michael Cohen's tweets during the Trump gag order hearing.
01:06:54.000The gist of the news is that Michael Cohen has been going on TikTok and social media disparaging Donald Trump to an extreme degree and his campaign.
01:07:02.000To the point where now Donald Trump is being held, he's having another contempt hearing for gag order violations, but even CNN is saying that Trump has credibility because Michael Cohen, and earmuffs for your children, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Cohen referred to Donald Trump as Von Schitzenpanz, and Jake Tapper apologized before reading it.
01:07:23.000Let me just play this quick segment for you guys.
01:07:35.000But there is an argument here that Donald Trump's running for president and his First Amendment rights, when it comes to responding to attacks, need to be respected.
01:08:02.000But Blanche, Todd Blanche, the Trump attorney, is specifically reading a post that Michael Cohen made on Twitter on April 22nd, in which he refers to Donald Trump as Von Schitzenpants.
01:08:15.000That is just a factual record that I am bringing before you.
01:09:00.000When you look at this, which we should say, he can speak about the judge.
01:09:04.000He can speak broadly about a lot of things.
01:09:07.000It's very narrow what the gag order is about.
01:09:09.000But it does include Michael Cohen because Michael Cohen will be a witness.
01:09:13.000And when Michael Cohen makes very clearly political statements against Donald Trump, it gives Donald Trump a much more credible political argument saying, this is ridiculous that I can't speak.
01:09:26.000Blanche just showed articles quoting Cohen, quote, talking extensively about Trump's presidential campaign.
01:09:32.000When, when CNN is forced to defend Donald Trump, it's not looking good for these, uh, these Democrats in this court case.
01:09:39.000Yeah, it's interesting because they start off by being like, well, none of this would matter if he wasn't running for president.
01:09:44.000And you're like, well, the whole reason he's on trial is because he's running for president.
01:09:50.000The judge in this case did say when he issued the fine the other day, I'm trying to remember the exact terminology, but effectively, the gag order is not supposed to be a sword and shield for Trump's detractors, right?
01:10:02.000Like, he acknowledged that this was being used as an opportunity, I think both by Soriano and definitely by Cohen, Truthful.
01:10:08.000throw punches at Trump when Trump is restricted on how he's allowed to publicly defend himself.
01:10:14.000And again, I find this to be a really interesting case, sort of in a nuanced way, because some
01:10:19.000of it is, you know, he's retweeting posts.
01:11:29.000I don't want the federal government to step in or anything like that, but it is really frustrating that there is no authority.
01:11:36.000You can be like, look, someone has to real has to come in and be adults because it's clearly not, you know, clearly they're not behaving like adults are not behaving like It all feels very Venezuelan to me.
01:11:54.000I haven't followed this as closely as you guys have because I just dismiss it as that.
01:11:59.000This is just the politicization of the judicial process.
01:13:53.000Because I want to know what they're saying.
01:13:54.000And this idea that Trump is falling asleep in trial is like their big, like the big thing they're sticking to right now.
01:14:00.000Never mind the fact that they're also admitting the jury is falling asleep, especially when the banker was testifying the other day, like, it's not fun to be in court and sitting and listening to boring stuff, but they are constantly, like, they'll be like, and now joining us is this guy who's been in court all day, and he'll be like, yes, yes, well, I can only see the back of Trump's head, and he doesn't appear to be sleeping, but I've heard that he is sleeping, like, it's so ridiculous, and that tells you, You know, in between these comments on Trump, they're also admitting like, the prosecutors were not able to get Cohen to, or anyone to officially confirm that Trump was the person directing the money.
01:14:35.000It always stops with Cohen, and then they're sort of like, and people thought maybe Trump.
01:14:41.000It was like, someone testified that Trump was asked about the payment, and he says what payment?
01:14:46.000Yeah, this is like regularly what happens.
01:14:47.000It's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
01:14:48.000They're able to build a case that it links to Cohen, but they are not, from everything I can see, they cannot definitively link Trump to any of this.
01:14:57.000And every time they'll be like, well, Pecker's the big deal.
01:15:00.000Well, actually, this next guy is the big deal.
01:15:02.000Actually, you know, the key witness is this person.
01:15:04.000And every time someone comes to testify so far, no one has been able to do the thing the prosecution desperately needs to do, which is to link Trump to these payments.
01:15:26.000He goes, well, I was sitting in the back and I could only see the back of Trump's head.
01:15:29.000But after talking with someone who's familiar with how Trump thinks, it was obvious that Donald Trump during this trial was imagining strangling the bailiff.
01:15:36.000And then they go, oh, wow, Trump's so violent.
01:15:40.000I got a news alert the other day, I think it was Wall Street Journal, that was like, he's cold, there's no Diet Coke, Trump is miserable in courtroom.
01:15:47.000And you're like, I think he's actually been through court way more times than you're giving him credit for.
01:17:27.000I think Seamus is working on a cartoon called The Corrupt Criminal Case of Donald J. Trump using the rock opera we made about Trump's truths.
01:17:35.000This one, we got to turn into a rock opera song.
01:17:39.000I mean, I think that also endears him.
01:17:41.000Like, if he lost for mean tweets, which I don't think he did, I think he really wins with people by giving off these, like, nonplussed answers.
01:17:49.000I'm simply closing my beautiful blue eyes.
01:17:54.000Let's jump to a completely just off-cycle story that's really interesting, and I talked about it earlier in the day.
01:18:02.000A lot of people wanted to talk more about it.
01:18:05.000This is from the Daily Mail, how Baton Rouge School, plagued by racial tensions and violence, drove military veteran to spearhead successful campaign for wealthy white residents to form new city of St.
01:18:37.000The interesting thing is that there are many people arguing that by having this wealthy suburb break off, which is predominantly white, 70%, it is going to harm and leave behind black families.
01:18:47.000I am shocked that they would make that racist argument.
01:18:52.000Black families in Baton Rouge don't need the white people to be there in order to succeed.
01:18:55.000I don't know why they would make that argument.
01:18:57.000But of course, they're claiming it's racist now that the people who live in this community voted for their own city.
01:19:11.000It's very based and there's a movement, I don't know about Louisiana, but in Texas there's a movement to create new free cities that split off from places like Austin.
01:19:23.000And it's simply about taxes, it's about regulations, it's about zoning, it's about schools, it's about all the things that normal people care about.
01:19:31.000And my guess is that the Baton Rouge city government is slightly better than Portland, Oregon, but Maybe not good enough if you're paying the taxes.
01:19:42.000So why wouldn't you vote with your feet?
01:19:44.000And why wouldn't you start a community that is actually going to care about basics?
01:19:57.000Baton Rouge is where there was a big BLM riot and the case is still going on where the police officer then sued the organizer for being like, you created a dangerous situation.
01:20:08.000There's a similar, there was a similar effort in Atlanta to create, I think it's called Buckhead.
01:20:13.000And as far as I know, it's sort of, it's been voted on a couple times and it's never gone through.
01:20:17.000But again, there was this criticism that it's like all the wealthy white residents want to split off.
01:20:22.000I think that's an oversimplification to scare people against the concept, right?
01:20:27.000If you're living in an area and you guys are doing pretty well, regardless of race, and you think, hey, this city is being mismanaged, I don't want to sell my house.
01:21:07.000Would you rather them move away or would you rather them split off and live next door?
01:21:10.000I think the state would rather they stay in the state.
01:21:13.000To the people of Baton Rouge, obviously it's going to matter, but to the people that, you know, that want to leave, It doesn't matter.
01:21:20.000You cannot, you cannot force people to stay.
01:21:25.000And the more the state tries to, the more it resembles, you know, what you get when the state tries to make people stay in an area.
01:21:36.000And that has plenty of historical analogs on all kinds of, you know, different, different, different degrees from, from marginally annoying to, you know, they're going to throw you into, into, you You know, mass graves if you try to leave, so... I wonder if we'll see more and more of this.
01:21:55.000Again, I think the scare... You're right, it's happening in Texas.
01:21:58.000Like I said, the Atlanta one is the one I'm most familiar with, but if you can keep them there by labeling them, you know, racist, is that sort of becomes less... Why would you want to live with racists?
01:22:10.000Why would you want to live with racists?
01:22:13.000But like, as this logic falls apart, Do you think we'll see this more and more in cities that are struggling?
01:22:22.000I'm sure this is happening in Baton Rouge, but as cities start to destroy their tax base, they start to expand their boundaries and encroach into suburbs that weren't part of their tax base.
01:22:34.000So part of it is just like it's like economic warfare, like you're not going to do that to us.
01:22:39.000We're going to separate from you completely.
01:22:42.000if they would get their house in order, they wouldn't have this problem.
01:23:10.000People who can afford to will move into the wealthy, safe, and secure area of St.
01:23:15.000George, and the poor people will stay behind, and Baton Rouge will start to fall apart.
01:23:19.000And 90% of this is, well, no, the two issues, if I understand correctly, the two issues are the schools, And also the crime.
01:23:27.000So like and there's also there's violence at schools.
01:23:31.000It really is like if you have an unsafe area where the law enforcement does not take care of the population, the people with means leave that area.
01:23:46.000If you can get out of it, if it's dangerous, and it's the same as whether it's people that are leaving a town because they don't like the school, or refugees from a war-torn country.
01:23:58.000This is what happens when people are unsafe and they can leave, they get the hell out of Dodge.
01:24:04.000So this is not some kind of shock and you're only going to see it.
01:24:09.000The actual solution is to get competent governance.
01:24:13.000Yeah, you can't really hold order minded people hostage by saying you have to stay here where there's chaos.
01:25:02.000In the early days, there was something called redlining, which is where the real estate companies would intentionally push black families towards redline housing.
01:25:10.000They're like, we want to make them all go there because it's a racist housing market.
01:25:14.000They're concerned about the property values if black families move into white areas or close to them.
01:25:24.000The Hispanic people start moving near Hispanic people, the white people move near white people, and the black people move to live in black communities.
01:25:48.000I don't know what the proposed leftist solution to that is when people choose to do it.
01:25:52.000Well, sometimes leftists propose segregating based on race.
01:25:55.000I can't remember which school, but there was a college recently where the African-American student community was saying, well, we want our own dorm.
01:26:02.000We don't want to have to live somewhere else.
01:26:12.000But if you were to be like, hey, I'm not saying it's a race thing, but I don't want to live in a place where I'm scared to send my kids to school because they're going to get beat up and there's all kinds of stuff, then you're racist.
01:26:20.000To be fair, the left has no real morals and no real ideology.
01:26:24.000The best example being Lance from the Serfs on this show arguing.
01:26:29.000That if a man is attracted to a manly woman, he's gay, but then tweeting out that men being attracted to manly women is straight, because it's literally flavor of the month for these people.
01:26:39.000They have no ideas behind anything they're saying.
01:26:41.000For people that are making the argument that you were referring to, it's just a vector of attack.
01:26:50.000Jordan Peterson would refer to it as postmodern because it doesn't actually matter like to them
01:26:56.000It's just that this is an attack that will will convince people
01:27:01.000Watching and it's an a vector of attack that will work and so it doesn't they don't really believe it like Tim says it's
01:27:07.000not Like they have any belief in it what they believe what they?
01:27:11.000Actually believe is that words have power and that's the postmodern thing
01:27:16.000So they use, you know, race as a, an effective tool.
01:27:20.000It's nothing more than an effective tool.
01:27:22.000That's why it's conditional and it, it's different depending on who's using it and stuff like that because it's all that postmodern garbage.
01:27:29.000It's also like this, this is a microcosm of, of our two different philosophies.
01:27:35.000If I'm grossly generalizing, one is centralization.
01:27:39.000of power and one size fits all and we're going to run the city the way that the ruling party believes in.
01:27:46.000And I think our side believes in localism. Like if everybody in the Mexican-American community wants to
01:27:54.000self-gather in that community, I think that's great. Or maybe they want to mix it up. Like,
01:27:59.000how do we know what a robust culture looks like unless we let people be free enough to decide for
01:28:08.000Do they value being with people that that look and sound like them or do they value?
01:28:14.000Diversity or they just devalue a reasonable tax code that doesn't totally screw you Right.
01:28:19.000And I think we talk about this a lot, but I think one of the biggest challenges facing America right now is that we don't have a collective understanding of what our values are and what our culture is supposed to be.
01:28:32.000And so that's why I love regional culture in America.
01:28:35.000I think it's really interesting that In Louisiana, there's a big Cajun influence, it's a different language, and I would want to preserve those things.
01:28:41.000But overarching, do we understand what it means to be American as opposed to these regional enclaves?
01:28:47.000Or, you know, if you're living within an immigrant community that's settled in a specific area, would you be able to both have your, you know, ethnic culture and as well as be able to say like, but being American means this.
01:28:58.000These are the values that we all agree we want to preserve.
01:29:00.000Well, we did have a system that allowed for individuality and local culture and a common sense of American identity.
01:29:08.000I think going back to centralization, intersectionality is a central plan.
01:29:14.000And it ranks everybody based on somebody's preferences.
01:29:18.000And it is so fundamentally un-American that it pushes us away from each other.
01:29:23.000It creates all of these divisions and this distrust amongst different types of Americans.
01:29:28.000And I think that's what's tearing us apart.
01:29:30.000I think intersectionality, I mean, this was the big buzzword I remember when I was going through college, like, how great is intersectionality?
01:29:40.000But it is, again, this idea that You know, we could have a moral and cultural understanding of what order should look like, but there's the opposite side which says, no, we want to be able to change, to continuously rotate the deck as we see fit, and we don't want you to be able to complain about it without being labeled with an ism, so to speak.
01:30:00.000Thank you so much for agreeing with me.
01:31:13.000And a big part of the reason is because of the narrative that people are fed.
01:31:16.000And I was harping on this the other day.
01:31:18.000But the reason that we had all the mess of the Summer of Love and the George Floyd riots was because of the lie fed to the American people for The better part of a decade that the police were killing thousands of black men, innocent black men, innocent unarmed black men.
01:31:34.000The idea was that the police are killing thousands of innocent unarmed black men every year in America.
01:31:41.000And because of that lie, we had thousands of lives destroyed, you know, tons of, like, just tons of chaos for a whole summer.
01:31:50.000And with this, like, you have this lie that Rich people don't pay their fair share, and they don't pay any taxes, and they all get out of it, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:32:00.000And the reason your life is bad is because of the rich people, and the reason that you don't have this is because of the rich people that don't pay their fair share.
01:32:06.000When the truth is rich people pay all the taxes, the bottom half of the 50% of the country
01:32:13.000don't pay any taxes, and the people that are freaking out about,
01:32:17.000that are protesting capitalism and stuff, they're not paying any tax at all, and they never have.
01:32:25.000And these kinds of narratives that are not true, but permeate through society,
01:32:31.000have real world effects on the way that people behave.
01:32:34.000And when you have, there's people that talk about like the inequality that we have,
01:32:39.000and you don't have a problem with poverty per se, but you have a problem with perceived inequality.
01:32:49.000If your whole society is poor, poor doesn't matter.
01:32:53.000But when you've got really rich people and then some poor people, it sucks.
01:32:56.000But the whole society overall is really Generally wealthy and like we don't have people falling out of society and these the the narrative that we have this terrible society that where where people are constantly falling through cracks and and kills people and blah blah blah that's and that is not true and it's a lie that's permeated a lot of Gen Z and young people and that's part of the reason why you have these protests is because they generally believe the US and our society is bad and it's just not.
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01:33:47.000Let's read, we got TokenBlackGuy who says, howdy people!
01:34:12.000An individual who calls me controlled opposition, who is willing to vote for Joe Biden so long as he turns on Israel, a man who is enforcing DEI policies at the federal level, a man who just invoked new Title IX rules that eliminate protections for women and allow males to compete against females, among other things, providing protections for women who make claims and accusations against men. A guy whose
01:34:35.000brother gained a bunch of lucrative contracts seemingly in line with the position he had as the
01:34:41.000vice president. A man whose son was an executive on the board who did drugs and who was
01:34:48.000You'd be willing to support one of the most corrupt individuals in US history who is pushing
01:34:55.000communist garbage in this country so long as he says Israel bad. That, my friends,
01:35:00.000is exactly Israel derangement syndrome. Shall we read on?
01:35:06.000CEO of fat girl says howdy people Clint said Clint Clint howdy people Clint she won't stop texting me man get her under control.
01:35:14.000I am the milk man My milk is delicious, okay?
01:35:17.000Well, I have no idea what that's about, but... Have you guys been seeing the stuff about avian flu being found in all kinds of milk across the country?
01:35:41.000Like, they're, like... No, I mean, like, people are going to stores and buying... Oh, yeah, like, local milk, as opposed to, like, delivered to a grocery chain.
01:35:47.000No, but everybody drinks milk because milk's in everything.
01:35:51.000It's not even about buying a thing of whole milk.
01:35:53.000It's that your baked goods, your other derivative drinks, your milkshakes, your ice cream.
01:36:02.000There's a bunch of food recalls right now.
01:36:04.000This is occasionally something I follow for Scanner just because it's fascinating to me.
01:36:09.000Because we all know the food that we eat is bad, but also can be so easily like messed up for non-nefarious reasons.
01:36:15.000Just like, man, it's a delicate shade.
01:36:18.000All right, Kale says, love to hear cast brew will have canned cold brew in the future.
01:36:22.000I've been making cold brew with Appalachian Knights at Chronic Golf Plus Games on Hilton Head.
01:36:27.000It's the best thing about opening shifts.
01:36:29.000Yeah, it was one of the first things we looked into was doing cans of cold brew, but unless we order massive amounts, which is beyond our warehouse capacity and shipping capacity, We're not able to do it.
01:36:40.000So the challenge is, you need to produce a certain amount of cans to get the cost low enough, but you need a certain amount of distribution to be able to produce enough, because they don't... I think cold brew lasts for one year, and you don't want to have them sitting around in a warehouse.
01:36:59.000With our coffee, we roast in small batches.
01:37:03.000So when you buy a bag of cast brew, you're getting something that was freshly roasted recently in a small batch, and we have a bunch of empty bags, and then when people order, we cycle through, like, roasting a batch and then sending them out, and then roasting a batch.
01:37:15.000Making cold brew requires making the cans, canning them, printing and everything.
01:37:21.000If we only do small batch cans, they're like five bucks a piece.
01:37:38.000Some companies sell the setup to do your own cold brew at home, like just what I think of as a teabag.
01:37:45.000That would be easier to do than the canned.
01:37:49.000The idea is like we want to get to the point where you walk into a gas station and you grab a can of cast brew from the shelf, scan the UPC and then crack it open and drink it.
01:38:38.000So, when I was running FreedomWorks and I was on TV all the time representing the Tea Party, I had these sideburns because I just shaved off all the gray and all that was left was these awesome sideburns.
01:38:52.000And then Keith Olbermann attacked them.
01:39:02.000And I said, well, shit, I gotta keep these forever now.
01:39:32.000What if you don't, we were always saying like move out of cities, but what if it's not move out of cities, it's just move to the best neighborhood and separate?
01:39:41.000Like, if you have a good police force that actually takes care of, like, well, I mean, not only, it takes more than just police because you have to have a DA that'll put people in jail.
01:39:49.000And a government that's, like, accurately, I mean, this is what I said about Portland, right?
01:40:12.000Ryan Ain't Lyin' says, huge shout out to my amazing wife, Caitlin, for giving us the best 15th anniversary gift of our second son, little Tucker Finley.
01:40:22.000I guess we are even more far right now.
01:40:24.000Well, congratulations on moving further right by having children.
01:40:38.000I'm implying that shutting down the protests is wrong, but I don't actually care because the people are begging for it.
01:40:42.000I am not actually praising the police for going in and shutting down the protests.
01:40:46.000to the discord too. I think, Jason, I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying.
01:40:52.000I'm implying that shutting down the protest is wrong, but I don't actually care because
01:40:58.000the people are begging for it. I am not actually praising the police for going in and shutting
01:41:03.000down the protests. It is sort of for the for I'll put it this way.
01:41:09.000When there was a video of a Jewish student being denied entry and the cops would not help him, I am upset the police were not doing anything about it.
01:41:17.000When the police were called upon and witnessed these people attacking Jewish students, this is what precipitated the violence at UCLA, the police did nothing.
01:41:28.000When the clashes started, the police came in and broke up the clash and then did nothing.
01:41:33.000And then finally, the police were called in to get rid of these protest camps.
01:41:38.000I am saying that sometimes the police are good, some departments are good.
01:41:42.000Big city departments typically are bad because they're run for political interests by politically appointed individuals, and sheriff departments are typically better because they're elected.
01:41:50.000But in this instance, my statement about the police is not necessarily a positive one.
01:41:55.000I wouldn't necessarily call it a negative one.
01:41:56.000I am saying, the far left wants to live by the sword and now they shall, so when the police come in and give them the governance they asked for, I will laugh about it.
01:42:06.000But I would defend someone's right to free speech were they not violent communists who physically attack people.
01:42:12.000If Nick Fuentes showed up at one of these campuses with a megaphone, took no land, claimed no territory, and just stood there bullhorning, I'd say, He's allowed to do it.
01:42:24.000I mean, if you want to make an argument about the audible nature of a megaphone, and he's got to set it to a certain volume, so be it.
01:42:30.000I don't care if you're a communist, a Muslim, an anti-Semite, or whatever, you have a right to free speech, but only, in my opinion, if you agree with the right for other people to have free speech back.
01:42:39.000Meaning, if you... Like, exactly what Elon Musk said.
01:42:42.000Fuentes is allowed on X, and he should be, and other people can comment on his posts, and they can argue with him online, and they can community note him when he's wrong.
01:45:47.000Yeah, especially if you have land, it's not, you know, you'd have to always be with the dog when it's outside.
01:45:52.000That's a legitimate concern, actually.
01:45:53.000Yeah, there's gonna be, like, a security camera footage of a bird just swooping down and snatching him and flying away.
01:45:57.000Have you seen those jackets they make for, like, chihuahuas with, like, spikes sticking out of them to, like, deter birds from picking them up?
01:46:03.000Geez, if a bird can eat your pet, you have a rodent.
01:46:06.000That being said, there was a turtle walking around on the driveway earlier today.
01:46:13.000And he's like, holding this turtle that was probably like 15 years old, because it was like, decently big.
01:46:18.000And I was like, bring him bring him to the pond, I guess.
01:46:20.000And he's like, I don't know where he was like, what if he was going somewhere important, you know, like, he was late for a meeting.
01:46:24.000Well, maybe he's got, like, he or she has family or something, you know what I mean?
01:46:28.000And then it's like, he walks all the way over here to go back to where his eggs are, and we pick him up and then bring him all the way back?
01:46:34.000This is something I've heard about, uh, if you find, like, a bunch of kittens in the wild, like, if you're walking in the woods, there's a chance that the mom has left them, hidden them, so she can go hunt or whatever, and she's gonna come back.
01:46:43.000So if you move them, the mom is now unable to find her kittens, and then it's, you know, they have to be with their mom to nurse and learn how to be a cat.
01:46:50.000This is one of the funniest ones, too.
01:50:15.000Okay, so, if I get tear gassed in the United States, typically New York does not use tear gas, and my understanding is the way their sewer system is designed, they try to avoid using it almost entirely, because it gets retained or something.
01:51:04.000There was no manning it up and bearing it.
01:51:06.000You're just like, wow, I cannot stop the snot pouring out of my face.
01:51:10.000So I took my sock and jammed it in my mouth so I could breathe.
01:51:13.000And then someone was like, why didn't you use your hat?
01:51:15.000And I was like, my hat was covered in tear gas.
01:51:17.000Yeah, that was like a good question though.
01:51:20.000But like the only part of like that I had that was small enough to actually try and use as some kind of filter was the sock in my in my shoe.
01:51:39.000I mean, it's fun if you, like, Luke and I were doing this, uh, this interview with this guy who, like, worked with the Mexican government special police forces, and, uh, his, like, past career was, like, anti-cartel, super intense, but now he's, like, a special effects guy.
01:51:55.000He's, like, semi-retired, and so when we were, like, let's talk, he kind of went over the top and he cracked a tear gas thing and threw it at us, and then we're in a small room with tear gas pouring out.
01:52:58.000The Mayor of Serious Town says, Tim, I know how badly you want to sell more coffee than Appalachian Nights.
01:53:03.000A strong product pipeline is important, so I doubled my Appalachian Nights subscription and will do so every month until there's a Houston location.
01:53:12.000So let's see, if you were doing one...
01:54:46.000No money needed, but would love to wrap my new 100 mile an hour riding mower with your graphic to spread the word to the fair crowds we race in front of.
01:55:35.000It's going to be wild once we get, so while we're building the Cast Brew shop in Martinsburg, the work behind the scenes for more locations around the country is currently underway.
01:55:48.000So that's still in full swing and that's basically all of the, like whenever you buy Cast Brew, we're not pulling profits or pulling any money out of that.
01:55:54.000I don't take a salary from the company or anything.
01:55:59.000And the funding is going towards setting up the location and setting up the other locations.
01:56:04.000It is going to be absolutely based when we're able to go, like, hey, there's a franchise location in, you know, Dubuque, Iowa, and we've got space there to do the show, and we're going to go do the show there, and we're going to be able to, like, just pop around and do this tour or something to the effect of a mini tour.
01:58:43.000And 20-year-olds are Gen Z. Millennials are nearing 40 years old.
01:58:48.000So, Millennials, and so it comes and goes in waves.
01:58:52.000There are the bulk of Boomers, and the majority of the children of Boomers are Millennials, but there are Boomers who have Gen Z kids, and there are Gen Xers who have Millennial kids as well.
01:59:05.000Typically, however, Gen Xers have Gen Z kids, and Boomers have Millennial kids.
01:59:13.000So I think Boomers are fantastic, actually.
01:59:15.000I think poor old Gen X. They're kind of a lost generation, but not in a bad way.
01:59:44.000Boomers gave us Star Trek The Next Generation, and for that they shall be given a golden trophy for all of time, and be heralded as the greatest generation in the history of mankind.
01:59:53.000But there are many Boomers who are bad, and they get to be called out.
01:59:56.000But you've redeemed yourselves, because no matter who you are or where you are, Boomer, just know, it was a Boomer who made Star Trek The Next Generation.
02:01:01.000Yeah, because she was on Congress at the Hill today lobbying for more menopause research.
02:01:06.000Yeah, like, men don't have this, and so conservative guys, these Gen Z guys are going to be in their 30s, and they're going to be, you know, dating or whatever, and they're going to meet a woman, and she's going to be like, well, you know, I'm progressive.
02:01:18.000He's going to go, okay, have a nice day.
02:01:20.000He's going to get up, and she's going to be like, no, wait, why?
02:01:21.000He's going to be like, I'm not dating a progressive leftist.
02:01:24.000The guy has no, it's not going to have any pressure to have a family, whereas these women who are in their 30s are literally being told by their doctors, like, well, if you want to have a family, you better do it now.
02:01:47.000And I just think even if it's 1%, 2%, 3% of women, many of them are going to be shifting their political views because they're going to realize that it's rough for them.
02:01:59.000And I would love to see data on political engagement based on gender.
02:02:03.000Like I, this is, you know, I know we know that young people tend to look at politics as a social cause.
02:02:09.000And so there's a certain level of like they're doing it to be viewed as valuable by their peers.
02:02:14.000But I almost wonder if women are more likely to be less politically engaged than men.
02:02:18.000We know that viewership for political shows skews towards men.
02:02:21.000And so like, of the like, woke feminist, you know, Alex Jones is Gen X. Okay, well, Gen X, you got that one.
02:02:27.000that Gen Z has, like how many of them are actually dedicated cause and how much are
02:02:30.000like, yeah, I guess, and are actually much more almost independent in a way.
02:02:34.000All right. So final thought, someone chatted, Alex Jones is Gen X. Okay, well,
02:02:38.000Gen X, you got that one. I'll give you that one. If you haven't already, would
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