Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - ARREST In UnitedHealth CEO Assassination, Suspect NAMED As Luigi Mangione w-Vince Dao

00:00:00.000 A man has been arrested in the UnitedHealthcare CEO assassination.

00:00:22.000 The guy was apparently found with a weapon, a manifesto, and he was ID'd by people at McDonald's, apparently.

00:00:28.000 And now this individual is named as a person of interest.

00:00:31.000 Some are reporting that he is the suspect in question, but an arrest has been made.

00:00:36.000 Now, this individual that's been arrested, we don't know for sure if he's the guy or what the deal is.

00:00:40.000 Everybody's rushing to jump to conclusions.

00:00:41.000 I warn you, be careful.

00:00:44.000 Though according to the reporting, it does seem like this may be the guy.

00:00:47.000 Some of it doesn't really make sense.

00:00:48.000 I mean, this person showed up assassinated the CEO, escaped, had a plan, but then kept all of the evidence on his person and dressed like the assassin and went to eat at McDonald's.

00:01:00.000 I don't know.

00:01:01.000 So that's why I'm saying be careful because this might not be the person.

00:01:03.000 They're saying it's someone connected to or a person of interest, although the individual is being arraigned in PA for having fake IDs and having these weapons or this weapon.

00:01:12.000 So we will talk about that.

00:01:13.000 But at the same time today, Daniel Penny was acquitted.

00:01:17.000 That's it.

00:01:17.000 He's out celebrating in New York.

00:01:19.000 Congratulations, Mr. Penny, on your freedom.

00:01:21.000 And we're going to go through all of that.

00:01:23.000 The left is vowing to riot.

00:01:24.000 So I don't know if we will see some riots today, maybe over the weekend.

00:01:28.000 Hard to know for sure.

00:01:29.000 But we're going to go over a lot of the details in the UnitedHealthcare CEO story and the assassination, how the left is responding.

00:01:36.000 They're claiming the guy arrested is a right-winger.

00:01:39.000 But they're celebrating it.

00:01:40.000 Yeah, the dude's writings, if this is the assassin, is certainly no right-winger.

00:01:44.000 He's an anti-capitalist climate change activist writing about how he believes in violence and all these things, very much aligning with the left.

00:01:53.000 But again, we've got to be careful on this one.

00:01:55.000 We also have a very funny update here on Taylor Lorenz, who has lost her, I don't know if you'd call it a job, but Vox is letting her go.

00:02:02.000 They're not going to carry your podcast anymore, claiming it's unrelated to her comments about how she finds joy in the assassination.

00:02:08.000 She appeared on Piers Morgan's where she said that she is joyful, along with millions of others over what happened.

00:02:13.000 And she's insane.

00:02:15.000 And these people are nuts.

00:02:16.000 But we'll go over this.

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00:04:15.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Vince Dow.

00:04:18.000 Hey guys, I'm Vince Dow.

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00:04:21.000 And yeah, we got a lot to talk about tonight.

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00:04:48.000 Before we get into any news, I want to cite this headline from the Daily Wire that says, Kamala campaign account deletes post that led to Tim Pool defamation suit.

00:04:59.000 I had posted, the lawsuit between I, Tim Pool, and the Kamala Harris campaign has been resolved to my satisfaction.

00:05:04.000 I will then read just one line.

00:05:05.000 Asked for further details about the legal settlement, Poole said in a statement, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:05:10.000 And that's all I have to say on the matter.

00:05:11.000 And that's all I have to say on the matter.

00:05:12.000 Epic.

00:05:12.000 Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.

00:05:12.000 Epic.

00:05:12.000 Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.

00:05:15.000 Suspect in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson ID'd as Luigi Mangione, an ex-Ivy League student.

00:05:24.000 Now, this story is crazy, and I want to stress, while this person has been arrested, and I believe we have images of him being brought in to court, again, we don't know exactly if this is the guy.

00:05:24.000 Now, this story is crazy.

00:05:25.000 And I want to stress, while this person has been arrested, and I believe we have images of him being brought in to court.

00:05:33.000 Again, we don't know exactly if this is the guy.

00:05:37.000 Even if they charged him, he's innocent until proven guilty.

00:05:40.000 They say he reportedly had a 3D-printed ghost gun, similar to the one used in the Wednesday morning murder, along with a silencer, a manifesto, four fake IDs, when he was arrested by cops.

00:05:50.000 He's 26, and an anti-capitalist Ivy League graduate.

00:05:54.000 Now, I will stress, Nick Sorter, tweeting, far left is identified as the suspect in the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

00:06:02.000 Is anyone surprised?

00:06:03.000 He's an anti-capitalist climate change activist, former Ivy League student who idolized Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, per the New York Post.

00:06:11.000 Crystal Ball then says, plot twist, the UnitedHealthcare health CEO killer was apparently a right-wing fan of Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson, Teal Huberman, and other right-wing right and right-adjacent personalities.

00:06:23.000 Silly.

00:06:23.000 He also followed Ezra Klein and AOC. It seems to be the person they were looking for at the hostel.

00:06:48.000 Maybe it's someone who has given the stuff.

00:06:50.000 No idea.

00:06:51.000 Until it's proven, I'm going to be careful on this one.

00:06:53.000 That being said, this dude's a far leftist.

00:06:55.000 No question.

00:06:55.000 Clearly.

00:06:56.000 I want to stress, just because he has some writings, which we'll go over in just a second, about the Unabomber.

00:07:03.000 In it, he clearly makes left-wing ideological positions, calling for violence.

00:07:08.000 This is a leftist.

00:07:09.000 And we can break that down, but I'll throw it to you guys so I'm not just ranting on this one.

00:07:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I think this is probably not...

00:07:16.000 The reason this probably confuses people is he's not the standard liberal, resist-lib type of leftist.

00:07:22.000 I mean, you could say he has some views that are third-positionist or all over the political spectrum, but to label this guy some type of generic...

00:07:29.000 conservative right-wing guy cuz he I guess retweeted Tucker Carlson before it's just ridiculous if anything you could say he's sort of outside the normal political spectrum and that would be fair but to say conservative generically no absolutely not the like how Thomas Crooks was a you know Trump supporter exactly I was just gonna say that like the the left likes to do everything they can to distance themselves from any actual like political violence right you know just like they were saying Thomas Crooks was a who's a The guy that was shooting

00:07:59.000 at Trump, you know, oh, he's a Trump supporter.

00:08:03.000 So they're making, like, completely ridiculous arguments.

00:08:05.000 But they're celebrating it.

00:08:07.000 Taylor Lorenz.

00:08:08.000 On one hand, he's a right-winger, and then on the other hand, they're celebrating it.

00:08:11.000 Right, this is clearly...

00:08:12.000 So, I mean, breaking down what left and right means is, okay, fine, it's loaded or whatever.

00:08:18.000 But when we say left and right in a common colloquial sense, we're referring to political tribes and little else and the manifestos of those tribes.

00:08:28.000 So the right typically refers to a cohort of post-liberals, disaffected liberals, conservatives, libertarians, and like anarcho-capitalist libertarian types.

00:08:39.000 It falls under libertarian.

00:08:40.000 The left typically refers to anti-capitalist, environmentalist, woke, pro-trans.

00:08:45.000 So...

00:08:46.000 If you want to make this argument of right means free market and left means centralized economy, then left and right makes no sense in any context in American political commentary.

00:08:56.000 If you want to make the argument that it's fascist and communist, you're basically just saying authoritarian authoritarian and the difference being traditional worldview versus progressive worldview.

00:09:04.000 In the American sense of left and right, this guy is left wing.

00:09:07.000 Yeah, clearly.

00:09:09.000 I think that, like, for as much as, in my opinion, I guess, like, I think that if you are an anti-capitalist or if you are against private property, those are clearly, you know, clearly left positions.

00:09:24.000 There's not a whole lot of debate about it.

00:09:26.000 The idea of ending private property was...

00:09:29.000 One of Marx's tenets of communism, he said that you could boil his philosophy down into one sentence, which is the abolition of private property.

00:09:38.000 Take a look at this.

00:09:39.000 The suspect nabbed in the killing is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, and see that a manifesto, these parasites had it coming.

00:09:50.000 TechWiz Luigi Mangione, 26, originally from Towson, MD. Wow, that's crazy.

00:09:54.000 That's not that far from here.

00:09:56.000 Apparently hated the medical community because of how it treated his sick relative, sources say.

00:10:00.000 Now, the crazy thing is we've also seen rumors that he suffered an injury either surfing or hiking.

00:10:06.000 And some people are posting that he had a back injury a few months ago and then fell off and no one heard from him until he appeared now.

00:10:13.000 No idea.

00:10:14.000 You know, I also think like, I don't understand the obsession really to make this so political to begin with, because I don't know if that was the initial accusation of conservatives that like, oh, this guy's a leftist.

00:10:24.000 I think it's generally understood.

00:10:25.000 It's probably someone who is scorned over the healthcare system for a specific reason.

00:10:29.000 And even like, I think the need to even politicize it is kind of ridiculous.

00:10:34.000 I mean, obviously, people are going to be interested in what he said or whatever.

00:10:37.000 But I just I don't even see the relevance, honestly, to some degree.

00:10:40.000 I mean, I slightly disagree.

00:10:42.000 The question was, was it politically or ideologically motivated?

00:10:46.000 And it is not.

00:10:48.000 So, like I was saying, if we want to be honest, the first thing we have to do is define left and right because people use them to mean different things.

00:10:57.000 It typically refers to the tribes in the political sphere.

00:11:02.000 So often it does refer to a largely traditional versus a largely progressive worldview.

00:11:08.000 It does in somewhat overlap with smaller government less regulation and larger government more regulation, but it's not absolute.

00:11:15.000 So it's generally this amorphous structure.

00:11:18.000 The reason why I think it's important to draw the distinction here is that the quote-unquote right, as we see it today, seeks to bring about change through voting.

00:11:28.000 Only January 6th did we see a massive riot.

00:11:31.000 Then you've got the...

00:11:32.000 What was that other riot in the 2000s?

00:11:35.000 What was it called?

00:11:35.000 Let me look it up.

00:11:37.000 I don't even know if it's right-wing.

00:11:41.000 I don't know any riots.

00:11:42.000 This was the Brooks Brothers riot, a demonstration by Republican, a demonstration led by Republican staffers at a meeting in Miami-Dade.

00:11:48.000 And they called the Brooks Brothers riot.

00:11:50.000 I don't even know if it's actually counts as a riot, to be completely honest.

00:11:53.000 It's like close as you're going to get.

00:11:54.000 So the right in this country tends to be families, suit wearing individuals.

00:11:59.000 They don't have time to go do these things.

00:12:01.000 They tend to have kids, not always.

00:12:03.000 They're going to show up to community meetings, banging on their fists on a podium or a lectern, being like, we demand change.

00:12:10.000 And the right manifesting power is best exemplified by Donald Trump and Republicans sweeping, as we just saw.

00:12:16.000 That is, all of these people being like...

00:12:18.000 This country is going to end unless we do something.

00:12:21.000 What can we do?

00:12:23.000 What did they do?

00:12:23.000 Scott Pressler registered voters, cleaned up streets.

00:12:26.000 People went around and knocked on doors.

00:12:28.000 People went online and complained.

00:12:29.000 The left.

00:12:31.000 Kills people, burns things down, firebombs things, gives out Molotovs, advocates for revolution and destruction.

00:12:38.000 That's what this guy was doing.

00:12:40.000 He has a post where he was commenting on Goodreads, Ted Kaczynski's manifesto.

00:12:48.000 Where he literally says, and I'm not going to quote the whole thing because I don't think it should be repeated, but he basically says that peaceful protest does not work.

00:12:56.000 Ted Kaczynski, it's fascinating how he insults Kaczynski for killing innocent people, but then goes on to say he praises violence and the use of violence.

00:13:06.000 And now they're saying they found a manifesto.

00:13:09.000 It is not of the political right in this country to violate the norms, the rules, the regulations to a great degree and to advocate for violence.

00:13:17.000 The right in this country is actually rather, you know, the joke we make about the Republican Party is slow down their Democrats.

00:13:25.000 They don't want to step out of line.

00:13:26.000 They don't want to wield, overly wield power.

00:13:29.000 Even Donald Trump in his first term did not go after Hillary Clinton or any of these people.

00:13:33.000 He thought he could play ball.

00:13:35.000 The people on the right genuinely believe as long as we can control the power structures, we'll be okay.

00:13:39.000 While the left shot a guy, BLM riots go out in the street.

00:13:44.000 They burn things down.

00:13:45.000 They attack people.

00:13:46.000 30 plus deaths in the BLM riots in 2020. This is their MO. So this guy, anti-capitalist, climate change activist, complaining about the healthcare industry and CEOs, while leftists online are cheering for him, I think it's important to draw the distinction of, if we as a culture allow that to persist unchecked, these are the things you get.

00:14:04.000 And the right, as we see today, which includes a lot of former liberals like myself, are saying, we don't want violence, we don't want death, we want to come together, elect a Donald Trump and populist, conservative Republican types...

00:14:17.000 Look, we're big fans of Thomas Massey because we're more libertarian and liberty-minded than anything else.

00:14:21.000 But the right in this country is screaming and rambling and banging on the table.

00:14:25.000 For political structural change, not through violence.

00:14:28.000 At the moment.

00:14:29.000 I think it's because the right, as we know it in the United States, has adopted a moderate stance over the last four years.

00:14:34.000 That's because, as I described already, the left and the right, as we describe it, are terms to describe the American political climate.

00:14:40.000 So when we say right, we're referring to post-liberals, disaffected liberals, libertarians, and conservatives.

00:14:46.000 In the United States?

00:14:46.000 In the United States.

00:14:47.000 Because like the Nazis we were talking about before the show would have been considered right.

00:14:50.000 The fascists, Mussolini's fascists would have been considered right.

00:14:53.000 And they were very evil.

00:14:54.000 Now what does right mean in your context?

00:14:56.000 It's not the same thing as what I'm saying.

00:14:57.000 It's more of an economic thing.

00:14:58.000 I think of it in terms of like fiscal economic, like economic conservatism.

00:15:01.000 The Nazis had a command economy.

00:15:05.000 That is true.

00:15:05.000 They used...

00:15:06.000 So, the Nazis didn't have the same kind of centralized economy as the communists, but they used social order and pressure to maintain the economy that they wanted.

00:15:17.000 Yeah, man, the terms left and right are too dichromatic to...

00:15:19.000 That's why I said, in the United States, left and right is a reference to these two political camps.

00:15:24.000 So, the Nazis maintained control over the economy through the fear of what the Nazis would do to you if you weren't just a part of the crowd.

00:15:31.000 And through lying.

00:15:32.000 They told everyone they were building highways and cars and they were Right.

00:15:35.000 The famous line was they would go to a steel factory and say, why aren't you producing steel for the movement?

00:15:42.000 And then people would immediately be like, I get the idea.

00:15:45.000 So it wasn't that there was an on-the-books penalty for not producing steel.

00:15:49.000 It was a, this is the way.

00:15:50.000 You better do it.

00:15:52.000 Or you know, that's very much what the woke do.

00:15:54.000 Whereas the communists were like, write down in the book what you're doing or we'll send you to the gulag.

00:15:59.000 So there's still centralized economies.

00:16:01.000 But anyway, I digress.

00:16:03.000 That's why I'm like...

00:16:04.000 When Crystal Ball says he was right-wing or right-adjacent, I'm like, listening to Jonathan Haidt's research on thought processes and structures is not right-wing.

00:16:13.000 Yeah, I think calling it left or right is a little bit presumptuous.

00:16:18.000 Really, I mean, the guy seemed older than that, but he seems down.

00:16:21.000 If you're looking at that four-quadrant situation, he looks, like, anarchistic.

00:16:24.000 Like, he was anti-establishment.

00:16:26.000 That's sort of my point with this, is not that there's not a political undertone to what happened.

00:16:30.000 Let me, I guess, clarify what I was saying earlier.

00:16:32.000 It's more so that, like...

00:16:34.000 I think it's wild how you have a generic woke Democrat trying to point at a generic MAGA supporter and say, it's your fault.

00:16:41.000 No, it's your fault.

00:16:42.000 When in reality, you look at this guy's political views.

00:16:44.000 I think I agree with you, Tim, that they are left-wing coded.

00:16:47.000 But it's a lot more complicated and, I guess, philosophical what he believed than the average Democrat on Facebook.

00:16:53.000 That's not who really did this attack either.

00:16:56.000 His motivations, like, he takes climate change very seriously.

00:16:59.000 He takes the healthcare industry very seriously, much more than...

00:17:03.000 I know a lot of people just generally don't like the healthcare industry.

00:17:06.000 Yeah.

00:17:07.000 But, again, a stress.

00:17:08.000 The right is basically like, oh, if we keep voting, we'll make a difference.

00:17:12.000 Hey, this time it did.

00:17:13.000 Yeah, it does.

00:17:13.000 And that's the point.

00:17:15.000 The left are the ones...

00:17:16.000 This guy literally wrote in his manifesto, which I'm like...

00:17:19.000 Not manifesto, but in his review of the Unabomber...

00:17:23.000 He says that we're animals and any animal on the planet would fight to the death seeing what was going on, but we are cowards or blah, blah, blah.

00:17:31.000 That is not a right-wing position.

00:17:33.000 Sounds like it's out of a manifesto.

00:17:35.000 When the left says the right are fascists because they follow Donald Trump, the leader, that's a really good example.

00:17:41.000 Believe that.

00:17:42.000 Fine.

00:17:42.000 What you're basically saying is that the average person looks to the leader of their tribe.

00:17:47.000 The right, the far right is, Trump's in charge, we'll do what he says.

00:17:50.000 It's like, okay, these are not the kind of people who are going to try and overthrow the government.

00:17:54.000 And also, far anything, like people that are obsessed sycophants could be considered extremist right, extremist left.

00:18:01.000 The people that voted for whoever the Democratic Party fed them were extremists in that direction.

00:18:05.000 The people that will say yes to anything Donald Trump proposes, even if it's throwing people in prison for burning the American flag, far right, that's an extremist in that direction.

00:18:14.000 So you've got to be critical of your leaders to not become an extremist.

00:18:18.000 So I think this guy would be considered an extremist, and I call him left or right.

00:18:21.000 I'm just surprised Sorter did that.

00:18:23.000 Nick, as far as I know, is usually pretty—I mean, maybe he's got a point.

00:18:27.000 Crystal Ball seemed totally off-base calling that—anyway.

00:18:30.000 If you look at his Twitter account, you can see that he's, like, commenting on Tucker Carlson and Jonathan Haidt.

00:18:35.000 He makes a comment about Tucker Carlson.

00:18:37.000 He says that brutalist architecture is demoralizing to people or something to that effect, and he says Tucker Carlson is right.

00:18:43.000 And I'm like, having the capacity to agree with a correct point doesn't make you necessarily left or right wing.

00:18:50.000 You can be a far leftist.

00:18:53.000 Ben Shapiro can sit here and talk about how we shouldn't overtax corporations and overregulation is bad for business or whatever.

00:19:02.000 I don't know what his position is exactly.

00:19:03.000 And then if a leftist said something like, we need to find a solution to the fact that children die of the flu and people are dying on the street, Ben's going to say, I agree.

00:19:11.000 That doesn't make him a leftist.

00:19:12.000 Right?

00:19:13.000 So this guy saying, Tucker has a point that brutalist architecture is demoralizing.

00:19:18.000 It's this blank slab.

00:19:20.000 It's not good.

00:19:22.000 Doesn't mean right-wing anything.

00:19:23.000 You're insane if you don't agree with the good points someone makes, if they're good points, just because you're like, they're a leftist or a right-winger.

00:19:29.000 Well, I mean, look, I don't think that the architecture preferences by people are a good barometer as right or left.

00:19:39.000 But that's what they're saying.

00:19:40.000 I know.

00:19:41.000 They're ridiculous.

00:19:42.000 If you take your average, like, liberal to Barcelona or some city with very old architecture, they're going to like it.

00:19:47.000 Does that mean they're right-wing?

00:19:48.000 You know, it's a ridiculous argument.

00:19:49.000 I was getting a handful of people that were commenting that swore up and down that they were not of the left, but they were...

00:19:57.000 I'm still saying that they thought what happened was a good thing, that it was time to put these CEOs on notice and etc.

00:20:05.000 and stuff like that.

00:20:06.000 Insane.

00:20:06.000 It's clearly insane.

00:20:08.000 And I think that if you take that position, then you're not just...

00:20:14.000 I do think that it is fair to say you're not just right or left, you're anti-society, right?

00:20:18.000 Because if you live in a society where you have vigilantes going out and doing this kind of stuff, you end up with just more police, you end up with more government influence, you end up with less freedom, and I don't see how anyone could actually want that result when they're saying, look, these CEOs are a bad thing, and they're not taking care of people the way they need to, and the solution will end up being just more...

00:20:43.000 More policing, more government, more authoritarianism.

00:20:46.000 It just doesn't make any sense.

00:20:47.000 It gives the elites an excuse to consolidate even more power.

00:20:50.000 It's an example of anarchy when it's chaotic and evil.

00:20:54.000 Anarchy is not always bad.

00:20:55.000 Sometimes you want no rules in the system so that the system can flourish.

00:20:59.000 Like with farming, you need to be loose in some systems.

00:21:03.000 But this is an example of when anarchism is bad, and it can make authoritarianism go haywire if it's not kept in check.

00:21:10.000 And look, I totally understand.

00:21:12.000 This is not anarchy, though.

00:21:13.000 He just totally threw the rules out the window and was like, we must take it into our vigilantism as anarchy.

00:21:20.000 Anarchy, if you go to any, ask Michael Malice about this, he's going to tell you you're wrong.

00:21:23.000 Ooh, I'd love to have Michael Malice on again.

00:21:25.000 Anybody who truly understands what anarchy means, it does not mean using violence.

00:21:30.000 Violence is the antithesis of anarchy.

00:21:32.000 Anarchy means without authority.

00:21:33.000 To walk up to a man with a weapon and end his life is the exertion of ultimate authority over someone else because your ideas are better.

00:21:40.000 That is the antithesis of what anarchy is.

00:21:43.000 So true anarchists, not these far-left whack jobs who call themselves anarchists because they're not.

00:21:47.000 They're tankies.

00:21:48.000 They're communists.

00:21:50.000 Real anarchy is people discussing with each other and making agreements, sometimes begrudgingly and sometimes happily.

00:21:58.000 This guy quoting the laws of the jungle and things like that is anarchy.

00:22:03.000 Like animals strong, animal eat, animal destroy.

00:22:05.000 That's anarchy.

00:22:06.000 That's not anarchy.

00:22:07.000 That's like total no law, no rule, no authority, the strongest take.

00:22:10.000 Like that's anarchy.

00:22:11.000 All right, let's define authority.

00:22:14.000 I mean, the authorship of power within a system.

00:22:18.000 So, what say you, Phil?

00:22:21.000 I mean, I assume authority would be the rightful or correct authority.

00:22:30.000 Distribution of power?

00:22:32.000 And what do you think?

00:22:33.000 Authority?

00:22:33.000 Probably the ability to command your will on someone under the threat of violence.

00:22:41.000 You have the closest to the dictionary definition.

00:22:44.000 It is the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience.

00:22:48.000 A man walking up to another man and putting bolts in his back is the ultimate exercise of authority.

00:22:53.000 It is not anarchy.

00:22:54.000 Anarchy would be a conversation where neither asserts authority over each other, neither exerts power over each other, and they have a discussion and then come to terms.

00:23:04.000 So these far leftists have taken the term anarchy, and this is offensive to me, and I'm not an anarchist.

00:23:12.000 But if you actually talk to real anarchists, they'll tell you every—look, every political ideology has the means for violence to come about what they want, but it is antithetical to the idea of an anarchist society that is trying to have a discussion to arbitrarily decide to exert the ultimate authority, which is to take someone's life by force unilaterally.

00:23:31.000 But the thing about having a discussion until you find terms is sometimes you don't find terms.

00:23:36.000 That's right.

00:23:36.000 Anarchy is impossible.

00:23:37.000 That's why I'm not an anarchist.

00:23:38.000 And there's a lot of anarchists who would argue why I'm wrong, but I think they're wrong.

00:23:42.000 But to say anarchy is impossible kind of violates the definition, because you have to create a possible situation in order to define it.

00:23:49.000 Anarchy is impossible.

00:23:50.000 The reason why is, in history, there have been a few short-lived anarchist societies, most notably the Catalonia Anarchist Commune, or whatever they call it.

00:23:59.000 And the problem is, when no one has the authority to exert any power or direct obedience...

00:24:06.000 Those that do crush them instantly.

00:24:07.000 Exactly.

00:24:07.000 Yeah, that's what always will happen is somebody will take authority.

00:24:10.000 So in some systems that you want to refer to as anarchists, maybe just bringing that word up is a mistake.

00:24:15.000 Maybe it's totally impossible to say the anti-authority is non-existent.

00:24:21.000 There will always be some authority.

00:24:22.000 You look at the Chaz and the Chop, those are supposed to be the autonomous zone and stuff like that.

00:24:28.000 As soon as the police were ostensibly the authority before the establishment of the Chaz or whatever, as soon as they said they weren't going to go in, gangs became the authority.

00:24:40.000 There were people walking around with guns and stuff.

00:24:42.000 I think the distinction is important because far leftists, if you go to the subreddit like r slash anarchism, it is not anarchists.

00:24:49.000 They know very little.

00:24:50.000 They've perverted the writers and philosophies of anarchy, and they advocate for centralized authoritarian power to subject people to their will.

00:24:58.000 They hold fringe cultural leftist views.

00:25:01.000 They are tankies.

00:25:02.000 They claim they're not, and they claim they hate tankies.

00:25:04.000 Tanky?

00:25:04.000 That's a Soviet?

00:25:05.000 Far left, communist, authoritarian.

00:25:08.000 What does that come from?

00:25:09.000 This is a little bit of an aside.

00:25:10.000 Stalin, right?

00:25:11.000 Tanky, the term tanky.

00:25:13.000 When the communists rolled tanks into Hungary to put down the uprising or whatever.

00:25:18.000 And people cheered it on and they were considered tankies?

00:25:21.000 Well, no.

00:25:22.000 If you were a person that says, yes, the communists were right to put that down and roll the tanks in, and they were like, okay, well, those are...

00:25:29.000 Like violent communists or tankies?

00:25:31.000 They're authoritarian communists.

00:25:33.000 Go to r slash anarchism on Reddit and they're celebrating this.

00:25:36.000 And then the actual people I know who are like anarchist scholars, and I'd be curious to talk to Michael Malice about it because he certainly knows way more about anarchist philosophy than I do.

00:25:45.000 All the people I've known going back 15 years or so who have been to these protests are like – so, for example, during the wave of protests of the 2010s, I was friends with a handful of anarchists who are just like – we utterly despise the far left.

00:25:59.000 We despise the black bloc protesters.

00:26:01.000 We despise Antifa because they're the ones who make it impossible for anarchist organizing because the media uses that as a symbol of anarchy and then tells everybody anarchy means this.

00:26:11.000 And it's like...

00:26:12.000 Going around and setting fire—like, if a group of people goes to your house and threatens to burn your house and let you do what they say, that's called fascistic, or it's called authoritarian, or it's called communist.

00:26:22.000 It's not anarchy.

00:26:23.000 They're asserting power of force over you to harm you.

00:26:26.000 That's what totalitarians do.

00:26:29.000 But I guess the argument is, under anarchy, eventually those are the things that happen, right?

00:26:33.000 So maybe that's why they associate it with anarchy, is because eventually, because, you know, there's no authority, someone takes the authority, so maybe that's the association.

00:26:40.000 But it also implies that...

00:26:44.000 I agree with you to a certain extent, but many of these anarchists believe in being armed to the teeth and defending their own property.

00:26:49.000 So the idea that someone else could come and threaten you, it's a question of, yes, bad people exist and people try to act with the power to subjugate you and do you have the power to defend yourself?

00:26:59.000 I'm not an anarchist.

00:26:59.000 Anarchy is kind of like a house of cards.

00:27:01.000 Like, it's very vulnerable.

00:27:03.000 And that's why I think people are afraid of it.

00:27:05.000 Because if it does, someone does decide to seize power.

00:27:07.000 It's just basically the whole tower comes crumbling down.

00:27:10.000 There's no more anarchy.

00:27:11.000 It's full authoritarian.

00:27:13.000 Strongest ones in charge now.

00:27:14.000 So I'm going to read this one super chat real quick before we jump to the next story.

00:27:17.000 Because it is the speculation as to what happened.

00:27:21.000 The killer had bad back pain, turned 26, hence he lost his parents' insurance, got delusional, and killed the CEO instead of finding a job.

00:27:28.000 Don't overthink this.

00:27:29.000 I've also heard that he...

00:27:31.000 There's so many rumors, man.

00:27:32.000 We don't know.

00:27:33.000 Some are claiming that because of the back pain, he started taking psychedelics because he was trying to relieve himself, that he had problems with getting the surgery paid for, he got radicalized, took various drugs to alter his mind because of the pain or for whatever, and then came to some deluded reality.

00:27:51.000 But let's jump to this from TMZ. Taylor Lorenz on Brian Thompson.

00:27:55.000 I'm not calling for murder, but I'm not sorry about it either.

00:27:59.000 So she basically tells these people that everybody's happy.

00:28:03.000 But you know what?

00:28:04.000 Instead of playing this, I want to play a clip from Piers Morgan.

00:28:08.000 And you can hear it much more succinctly and simply.

00:28:11.000 I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately.

00:28:19.000 Joy?

00:28:21.000 Serious?

00:28:22.000 Joy in a man's execution?

00:28:24.000 Maybe not joy, but certainly not empathy.

00:28:28.000 We're watching the footage.

00:28:30.000 How can this make you joyful?

00:28:32.000 This guy's a husband, he's a father, and he's being young down in the middle of Manhattan.

00:28:37.000 Why is that making you joyful?

00:28:39.000 So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans, who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies of denying care to the most vulnerable people.

00:28:53.000 That's crazy.

00:28:55.000 The many millions of Americans that have watched people that I care about suffer and in some cases die because of lack of health care.

00:29:02.000 So should they all be killed then?

00:29:03.000 Should they all be killed, these health care executives?

00:29:05.000 Would that make you even more joyful?

00:29:08.000 No, that would not.

00:29:09.000 Why not?

00:29:10.000 Why are you laughing?

00:29:12.000 Well, I'm laughing because it was an excellent question from Piers Morgan.

00:29:15.000 Piers.

00:29:16.000 Because it wouldn't fix the system.

00:29:17.000 You seem to find the whole thing hilarious.

00:29:19.000 Yeah, she does.

00:29:20.000 I find your question funny.

00:29:21.000 A bloke's being murdered in the street.

00:29:23.000 I don't find it funny at all.

00:29:25.000 I don't find it funny that tens of thousands of Americans die every year because they are denied life-saving health care from people like the CEO. Now, I want to fix this system.

00:29:34.000 So, man, there's so much to break down in this dangerous psychopath's rant.

00:29:37.000 I thought he was a right-winger.

00:29:40.000 So why is she so happy?

00:29:41.000 Oh, right.

00:29:42.000 I mean, that's the crazy thing.

00:29:43.000 They say he's right-wing, but the left is celebrating this.

00:29:46.000 They can't figure it out.

00:29:47.000 They've got to pick one.

00:29:48.000 These people are too stupid to understand multi-layered thinking.

00:29:53.000 She, in her mind, is like a man that worked for a company at the highest levels died, so she feels joy.

00:29:59.000 Okay, who was the guy?

00:30:00.000 What did he do?

00:30:00.000 What was his job?

00:30:01.000 He was a CEO. She has no idea.

00:30:05.000 She probably didn't know he was a husband and father.

00:30:07.000 She doesn't care.

00:30:08.000 She said that the health insurance agencies were murdering people.

00:30:11.000 They're not.

00:30:13.000 People might be dying, but it's not murder.

00:30:15.000 Murder is a legal definition.

00:30:16.000 And look, I understand what she's saying about the American health care system.

00:30:19.000 I think a lot of people do.

00:30:20.000 But the problem is, that is literally how you lose the argument entirely.

00:30:25.000 Because now...

00:30:26.000 What is going to happen as a result?

00:30:27.000 Are you going to see some type of magical reform in the healthcare system because of this?

00:30:30.000 No.

00:30:30.000 All that's going to happen is the CEOs are going to double their security.

00:30:33.000 In fact, healthcare CEOs now are something probably like martyrs to normal people.

00:30:37.000 And now people feel bad for them almost.

00:30:39.000 I mean, look, something that hasn't really been mentioned very frequently in the whole thing here is like, and I'm going to make all the actual libertarians that are watching or that watch, they're going to cry out for joy.

00:30:52.000 But the problems that most people see with the healthcare industry, they're because of government involvement.

00:30:59.000 Your healthcare, your health insurance or your healthcare should not be tied to you having a job.

00:31:05.000 You shouldn't have to.

00:31:06.000 Yeah, you shouldn't have to have a job to be able to go to a doctor.

00:31:11.000 The costs of everything wouldn't be so high if it wasn't for the fact that you're not allowed to know what the cost is.

00:31:19.000 You're not allowed to go and put it on a market.

00:31:23.000 We've got to clarify that.

00:31:24.000 You should have to have a job.

00:31:26.000 Well, fair enough.

00:31:27.000 You need to be able to pay for yourself and health care and buy that service.

00:31:30.000 My point being that it shouldn't be tied to employment.

00:31:33.000 If you look at LASIK, if you look at any kind of elective surgeries, the price goes down over time because there's competition.

00:31:42.000 When you take health care out of the market context and make it something that someone else pays for and the people that are actually getting the care or giving the care don't actually talk about the price or discuss the price at all, then you're going to see prices skyrocket like this.

00:32:00.000 The government should not be involved at all.

00:32:02.000 In doctorship, too.

00:32:04.000 It takes, what, 12 years for someone to become a doctor and cost them $600,000?

00:32:08.000 It's absolutely insane the amount of help that people could be giving each other in this world if we didn't have government regulations of doctorship.

00:32:16.000 It's a little bit of a hot take.

00:32:17.000 You don't want your doctor to be an idiot.

00:32:18.000 It's one of the most important jobs on earth.

00:32:20.000 So they better know what they're doing.

00:32:22.000 But it doesn't take 12 years to figure it out.

00:32:24.000 Even with all of the regulations surrounding being a doctor, it's still like the third most common cause of death is medical malpractice.

00:32:31.000 Let me just pull this back in.

00:32:35.000 You know what?

00:32:35.000 I don't know.

00:32:35.000 I don't care.

00:32:36.000 Like, the healthcare system is bad for a lot of reasons, but it is not the fault of a doctor or an insurance company who doesn't provide for you that an illness took your life.

00:32:43.000 Okay?

00:32:43.000 So when Taylor Lorenz says they're murdering people, I'm like, now hold on there a minute.

00:32:48.000 If I pay for a service and do not get it, we got ourselves there.

00:32:52.000 A problem.

00:32:52.000 A contractual problem.

00:32:53.000 If this is tied to my life, we got a big problem.

00:32:55.000 And that's a civil issue, and it's nasty and it's evil, but it's not murder.

00:32:59.000 Okay?

00:33:01.000 If a human being, I don't know, contracts some kind of disease and they are dying, let's say, let's, this is the worldview of these leftists.

00:33:10.000 If I go down to, I don't know, Bogota or go somewhere, and then I get some weird bug lands on me and bites me, and then I get a disease.

00:33:21.000 When I get sick and then go to the hospital and die, no one murdered me.

00:33:25.000 I died from an illness.

00:33:26.000 Humans die.

00:33:27.000 These things happen.

00:33:28.000 If a dude is working in his backyard, or how about this?

00:33:31.000 If a guy is working on, say, like an oil, they're building an oil well, and then in the process, a bunch of pipes fall on him and crush him.

00:33:43.000 If they bring him to the hospital and they can't save his life because of some paperwork, they didn't murder him.

00:33:49.000 Right?

00:33:49.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:33:51.000 Emergency rooms are obligated by law to treat people.

00:33:54.000 So you're not getting denied life-saving coverage.

00:33:56.000 They're not paying your bills.

00:33:58.000 In many circumstances, there are people who might have, like, a cancer or treatment.

00:34:02.000 And this is more rare, but it happens where they say...

00:34:04.000 We're not going to pay for this treatment because you're not covered or we're disqualifying you.

00:34:08.000 But it is not as common as these people are claiming it out to be.

00:34:12.000 Overwhelmingly, people get their insurance paid, and we generally don't like these companies because they're kind of dicks about it, and they make a lot of money off of denying claims.

00:34:19.000 Fact.

00:34:20.000 They'll try to avoid paying your claims.

00:34:21.000 But I reject the idea that a CEO personally murdered millions of people because humans suffer detriments to their health every day.

00:34:31.000 She backtracked on that term murder.

00:34:32.000 She stopped calling it murder right after she did, just like she stopped saying she had joy right after she said she did.

00:34:38.000 You know she does.

00:34:38.000 Girl doesn't have very high intelligence.

00:34:40.000 Why does she use the term murder?

00:34:41.000 Because then what's the implication if someone is killing, murdering like thousands of people a year, then what does that justify against them?

00:34:47.000 Maybe that's what it's about.

00:34:48.000 Self-defense.

00:34:49.000 Yeah.

00:34:49.000 And that's what the left says on everything.

00:34:51.000 When they go out and they burn buildings down, they call it self-defense.

00:34:54.000 Exactly.

00:34:54.000 And they're like, no, it isn't.

00:34:55.000 Right.

00:34:56.000 They're insane.

00:34:57.000 You know what the thing is?

00:34:58.000 I think the real challenge is, I would love to pay an all-expense paid trip for you, Taylor Lorenz, to insert any third world country.

00:35:08.000 I think we'd want to do a tour of like three different locations in different regions where you would then live for one week in these places.

00:35:18.000 Come back to the United States.

00:35:19.000 She'd look around and say, this is the greatest country that ever has been.

00:35:22.000 I love everything about it.

00:35:23.000 Our health care industry is the best.

00:35:25.000 I love how they're talking about Canada's got free health care.

00:35:28.000 Why can't we have it?

00:35:29.000 And then you take a look at Canada and it's like man denied basic health treatment, you know, because the government's refusing to pay for it.

00:35:35.000 So they get private health care anyway.

00:35:37.000 And now they're offering medical assistance and dying.

00:35:38.000 Not to mention they don't have access to the same treatments we do.

00:35:41.000 These people are the epitome of spoiled rich kids.

00:35:46.000 That is, they may not be rich, but they were born in the United States and they don't realize how the rest of the world lives.

00:35:52.000 One of my favorite family guy jokes.

00:35:54.000 They were doing a family guy bit where it was 200 years ago.

00:35:57.000 And Peter goes, oh, stubbed my toe.

00:35:59.000 Guess I'll die.

00:36:01.000 That's how it used to be.

00:36:01.000 You'd get an infection and then you'd go septic and die.

00:36:05.000 You'd scrape your leg and they'd be like, gotta cut your leg off.

00:36:07.000 They didn't even realize I could have poured whiskey on your leg and just water and then you probably would have been fine.

00:36:12.000 Kind of crazy.

00:36:13.000 So these people live in a golden castle of wealth standing on the shoulders of giants and then think she has a right to She says she wants people to die for not giving her more wealth.

00:36:27.000 That is the danger of leftists.

00:36:29.000 They're insane.

00:36:30.000 Yeah, it's completely insane.

00:36:31.000 And you find that in a lot of the leftist ideology stuff, though.

00:36:37.000 They talk about the evils of capitalism, the reason that there have been so many deaths, like...

00:36:44.000 There have been deaths because there wasn't clean water and there's been deaths by preventable disease and deaths by starvation and stuff.

00:36:52.000 And it's like, look, these deaths would happen in the absence of capitalism.

00:36:56.000 The fact that we don't have vastly more deaths because of all of those things is because of capitalism.

00:37:03.000 It is because of Marxism.

00:37:04.000 You could argue that the capitalistic food and drug industry has capitalized on making people sick with toxic chemicals and then selling them a pharmaceutical to try and treat that and get into this cycle of illness and decline and then barely keep, you know, patient for life.

00:37:20.000 You could argue that.

00:37:21.000 But that's not capitalism that's doing it.

00:37:23.000 That's the corrupted medical establishment that's taking advantage of capitalism.

00:37:27.000 And even still, like, that particular thing, again, I'm going to talk like a libertarian again, but like, We talk about how much sugar there is in food that you get and stuff.

00:37:36.000 And that's because of corn subsidies.

00:37:39.000 It's because the government pays farmers to produce corn.

00:37:43.000 And with that corn, they make high fructose corn syrup.

00:37:46.000 That's why high fructose corn syrup is in everything.

00:37:50.000 And to your other point about the possibility that capitalism has caused people to not have food or whatever, the reason we have 7 billion people on Earth now – well, there's two – is because of oil and because of markets.

00:38:09.000 If we didn't have oil to be able to properly transport, store in plastics and move all these food products around the world, we wouldn't have this many people.

00:38:19.000 And you wouldn't have this many people if it wasn't for the fact that we have capital markets that can exchange goods from country to country.

00:38:28.000 So the idea that capitalism is a net negative, I think that's just completely ridiculous.

00:38:35.000 There are definitely bad things about about our system, but that doesn't mean that capitalism as a whole is a bad corporate.

00:38:42.000 She's basically saying that these health care CEOs are murdering every single person around the world.

00:38:48.000 Ridiculous.

00:38:48.000 Or not treating their treatable diseases.

00:38:50.000 Completely ridiculous.

00:38:51.000 Just entirely ridiculous.

00:38:54.000 The idea that people die, which it's awful that people suffer and die, but that's part of the human condition.

00:39:03.000 And that's another thing that the left constantly rails against.

00:39:06.000 They don't rail against capitalism.

00:39:07.000 They're actually railing against the human condition, and they blame capitalism.

00:39:12.000 Also, wasn't she a journalist that was known for doxing people?

00:39:15.000 You know that, right?

00:39:16.000 For lives of TikTok.

00:39:17.000 Let me pull up this story from Semaphore.

00:39:20.000 So, of course, we are talking about Taylor Loren's boy.

00:39:22.000 Is she getting a lot of airtime for being a nutjob?

00:39:24.000 But it's been reported now that she and Vox are parting ways.

00:39:27.000 Now, they say it has nothing to do with her screed about wanting more death and being joyful at the murder of a guy, a man who had children.

00:39:37.000 But I do think this termination, it shows the world is healing.

00:39:45.000 I'm not trying to be funny, but this is a person who thinks, she said on TMZ, the people, the people want this.

00:39:55.000 Then why do the people feel this way?

00:39:57.000 When she's saying the people, she's not talking about you or me.

00:40:00.000 They exclude normal individuals with moral foundations.

00:40:04.000 She is referring to her communist cohort.

00:40:06.000 I don't think she's literally in her mind thinking me and all my communist friends.

00:40:10.000 She's in her mind thinking the people is all of the good individuals that support what I think.

00:40:15.000 And all people who disagree are fascists anyway.

00:40:17.000 They're not the people.

00:40:18.000 They're evil.

00:40:19.000 So she's going on TV shows saying we all want this to happen.

00:40:22.000 We are all the people.

00:40:23.000 Well, now she's losing her job.

00:40:25.000 I want to make sure this is clear.

00:40:26.000 So the story is Vox Media is ending its deal to distribute Taylor Lorenz's podcast and YouTube show.

00:40:31.000 The company had a short-term partnership with the high-profile tech reporter that is set to expire at the beginning of the year.

00:40:36.000 Semaphore has learned.

00:40:37.000 The company announced its partnership with Lorenz earlier this year, which Axios dubbed the distribution deal a huge win for the company as it tried to partner with premier podcast talent on distribution, not monetization and strategy.

00:40:48.000 Still, while Lorenz remains one of the most talked about journalists in digital media, her social media persona is a magnet for criticism both for her and the media companies associated with it.

00:40:57.000 Vox's decision not to renew the show was made before her comments this week, in which she appeared to justify the killing of the UnitedHealthcare CEO as an expression of public discontent.

00:41:06.000 She did more than that, dude!

00:41:08.000 I don't believe for a second it's unrelated.

00:41:11.000 So they're saying the decision not to render the show was made beforehand.

00:41:14.000 Okay, maybe, but the chick's been nuts for a long time.

00:41:17.000 And this is not the first time she said absolutely insane things.

00:41:21.000 But I'm going to be honest.

00:41:22.000 I don't believe it.

00:41:23.000 I think they're saying that because they want to avoid any kind of legal dispute or backlash.

00:41:28.000 There are a lot of leftists that are celebrating this.

00:41:30.000 They want to disassociate from this lunatic and they don't want.

00:41:34.000 I'll put it this way.

00:41:35.000 If I was running a podcast company.

00:41:37.000 Hey, I am.

00:41:38.000 If I had someone like Taylor Lorenz here and she was saying these things.

00:41:41.000 I would also not be like, because she's called for the death of these people and celebrated, we're saying we don't want to work with her, because then all of those people will target you.

00:41:50.000 You get SWAT, you get bomb threats.

00:41:51.000 Fortunately for me, I don't hire people like Taylor LeRentz, so I'm not worried about it.

00:41:55.000 I think Vox is murdering her, because she just lost her health insurance, so there you go.

00:42:02.000 But yeah, no, I mean, I think that especially when Taylor Lorenz goes out, you say that about a healthcare CEO, right?

00:42:08.000 You're going up and saying like probably things that could maybe catch a lawsuit against a industry with a lot of power.

00:42:14.000 I think Vox is protecting itself, but maybe it's also possible that Vox is just out of money because frankly, I didn't know they were even still around.

00:42:21.000 Maybe they just don't have the budget to keep her podcast.

00:42:23.000 I think NBC... Invested hundreds of millions into Vox.

00:42:26.000 Because I heard a story like, what was it, a year or two ago that they were going under, so maybe that's what happened.

00:42:31.000 I mean, maybe.

00:42:32.000 I haven't heard anything about Vox having issues with financial issues.

00:42:41.000 I do think that it's probably...

00:42:44.000 Even if it doesn't have anything to do with this specific statement...

00:42:48.000 She's just a nutjob.

00:42:49.000 I mean, yeah, she is.

00:42:50.000 She's a crazy person.

00:42:51.000 If you look at the stuff that she was...

00:42:53.000 Just last week or whatever, she was saying stuff on Blue Sky that was completely insane.

00:42:58.000 Let me try and pull it up.

00:42:59.000 It was...

00:43:00.000 While you're looking up, I just want to stress, you can make fun of Vox all you want, but I bought some BuzzFeed stock when Vivek got in there, and I am way up.

00:43:07.000 Oh, that's cool.

00:43:08.000 Over 100%.

00:43:08.000 Vox raised $100 million from Penske Media.

00:43:11.000 Is it Penske?

00:43:12.000 Penske Media in 2023, or they were raising it.

00:43:15.000 Before that, it was NBC, wasn't it?

00:43:17.000 I don't know.

00:43:19.000 Penske owns 20% of the company.

00:43:21.000 They came out with big money last year.

00:43:23.000 I have empathy for a lot.

00:43:25.000 I just tend to have empathy.

00:43:26.000 I tend to feel what other people are feeling.

00:43:28.000 But this girl is hard.

00:43:30.000 It's challenging to have empathy for this girl because I feel like she's closed off either with psychoactives that she's taken, like pharma.

00:43:36.000 But the stupid shit that this girl says over and over makes me want to distance myself from her.

00:43:43.000 I can't.

00:43:43.000 You have to imagine, too, behind closed doors, they're probably telling her many times throughout the years, hey, stop being a lunatic.

00:43:50.000 This is a little too radioactive.

00:43:51.000 You can't be saying stuff.

00:43:52.000 And then she loses her job finally because she can't tone it down.

00:43:55.000 It's not just dumb, like she said the wrong thing.

00:43:57.000 It's vicious.

00:43:59.000 It's about murder.

00:44:00.000 It's about finding joy in the murder of a guy.

00:44:03.000 Right.

00:44:04.000 Crazy talk.

00:44:05.000 And you try and empathize with a demon, you're going to get a little demonic.

00:44:08.000 So sometimes you've got to distance yourself from people like that.

00:44:11.000 I'm sorry, Taylor.

00:44:12.000 You could make it up to me.

00:44:13.000 Don't be sorry.

00:44:14.000 What's that?

00:44:14.000 I said Ian recognizing evil.

00:44:16.000 Yeah.

00:44:17.000 You know, sometimes you can heal evil by being there for it, but as you do that, it makes you more evil.

00:44:22.000 And sometimes it's just like the exhaustion of this girl.

00:44:26.000 Not always.

00:44:26.000 I'd be happy to have a conversation with her.

00:44:28.000 I think people can be redeemed.

00:44:29.000 I think that, correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not as well learned on Christianity, but I believe it's a core tenet of Christianity that people can be forgiven and can be redeemed.

00:44:37.000 There's a church called Christ the Redeemer.

00:44:39.000 A friend of mine went to Redeemer High School, middle school.

00:44:42.000 It was all about redemption.

00:44:42.000 A lot of that religion is about redemption.

00:44:44.000 It was the raw dog.

00:44:45.000 Oh, man, that's what it was.

00:44:46.000 Oh, a raw dog in the air.

00:44:48.000 I mean, that's just funny, and she's nuts.

00:44:50.000 Isn't Christ the Redeemer the gigantic statue in Rio, in Brazil?

00:44:53.000 I think so.

00:44:54.000 Yeah, Christo Redento.

00:44:55.000 Yeah.

00:44:56.000 Yeah, massive.

00:44:57.000 Yeah, the Redeemer, man.

00:44:58.000 Of course people can be redeemed.

00:45:00.000 That's a great story.

00:45:01.000 That's why, like, you know, right now with Cenk Uygur, a lot of conservatives are just outright like, nope, never welcome him.

00:45:06.000 He's clearly audience farming and all that stuff.

00:45:08.000 And I don't disagree, right?

00:45:10.000 So Matt Walsh and I think Mike Cernovich both said Cenk is trying to go onto these shows and say, like, look, I understand...

00:45:18.000 But what their attitude is, nah, he saw Anna Kasparian getting a massive following, getting way better numbers, getting praised for being reasonable, and he's chasing after that after a relay.

00:45:27.000 He's on the wrong side of history.

00:45:28.000 And my attitude is...

00:45:29.000 Yes.

00:45:30.000 I completely agree.

00:45:31.000 And I've been saying the whole time, these people who, you know, with with the respect I can give Cenk, he's got to build a big platform, but with limited respect.

00:45:41.000 These are the people that are going to march in lockstep with the machine.

00:45:44.000 We want them to fall in line for what we are saying.

00:45:47.000 And now they're realizing that.

00:45:49.000 So what you need to understand with these people in the event, and as it's largely about like Taylor Lorenz and being crazy and how she got ousted from corporate media, but for any one of these people who is now having a come to the light moment where, oh, you know, oh, geez, you know, Bill Maher is trying to play that game.

00:46:03.000 Jon Stewart.

00:46:04.000 My attitude is, I never believed you were sincere.

00:46:07.000 I never believed you had a backbone.

00:46:10.000 But so long as you are shutting up and saying the things that are true and correct, it's better you are right than virtuous.

00:46:18.000 We just need to make sure we recognize these people will flip on a dime the moment the wind blows the other direction.

00:46:24.000 But for the time being, we want to align the power they have in media behind what we think is good to maximize our potential.

00:46:32.000 Simply saying, I don't believe Cenk is a true reformer, but if he's going to start telling his audience that we're right and it pushes people in this direction, we are winning.

00:46:42.000 So there's no reason to tell Cenk.

00:46:44.000 He's basically saying, look, I'm in a bad spot.

00:46:47.000 I'm gonna say what you want me to say.

00:46:49.000 I'd be like, it's cowardly, but, you know, good.

00:46:52.000 We've been saying on this podcast for the better part of two years at least, you know, we're looking for ways to convince the normal Democrats to move away from the woke, the crazy leftists.

00:47:04.000 People like Taylor Lorenz, people that say things like revolutionaries.

00:47:10.000 We want normal Democrats to start being normal Democrats again.

00:47:14.000 And they're still out there.

00:47:15.000 I truly believe that they are.

00:47:18.000 And I think that they're sick of the woke stuff.

00:47:20.000 I think that they're sick of the cancel culture.

00:47:22.000 And hopefully the fact that there was such a sweep for the Republicans in this past election...

00:47:30.000 Hopefully that shows that it is good business for people like Cenk and others to say, you know what?

00:47:38.000 Maybe I need to moderate on my opinions.

00:47:40.000 Maybe I need to moderate on my rhetoric.

00:47:42.000 And hopefully their audiences will hear more reasoned takes.

00:47:48.000 Look, Anna Kasparian...

00:47:51.000 It took multiple things for her to start saying, wait a minute, I got a problem.

00:47:55.000 There was the fact that she was sexually assaulted, and there was the fact that she was birthing person, stuff that she had to go through.

00:48:02.000 And each time, the left attacked her.

00:48:04.000 They didn't look at her and say, no, Annie, you're wrong, and blah, blah, blah.

00:48:07.000 They attacked her, called her terrible names, and et cetera, et cetera.

00:48:10.000 And then there was the then she then she started looking at things like the Kyle Rittenhouse issue where Cenk even still has a terrible opinion on that.

00:48:19.000 He was here the other day and I was like, why do you he's like, you know, we have this.

00:48:23.000 I still think Rittenhouse was a bad guy.

00:48:25.000 I'm like, why?

00:48:25.000 And but either way, like she looked at the evidence and she was like, I was wrong on that.

00:48:32.000 If they're going to actually take realistic perspectives or look at the honest facts on the ground and they're going to change their opinion and they're going to tell their audience and even fight with their audience some and tell their audience, look, you should look at things from multiple sources.

00:48:47.000 You shouldn't just listen to left-leaning sources.

00:48:50.000 That's a good thing for America.

00:48:52.000 I think when we get into this game of trying to judge people's intentions, we can do that all day, right?

00:48:56.000 Anyone can point at anyone and say they're a grifter.

00:48:58.000 I'm not really curious, honestly, in that whole conversation.

00:49:00.000 I think you guys are right.

00:49:02.000 It matters what they're saying to their audiences, not necessarily their intentions, because we're never going to know that, right?

00:49:07.000 Trump could pass a bill, let's say, to build the border wall, right?

00:49:11.000 And people could say, oh, it's because of this reason or it's that reason, both of them.

00:49:13.000 And the result is what?

00:49:14.000 You pass the bill to build the border wall.

00:49:17.000 And that's the type of thing that matters, is where are they pushing their audiences?

00:49:20.000 I'll tell you guys a story, actually.

00:49:21.000 When I was very young, I sort of started off on kind of like the crypto-populist left.

00:49:27.000 That's sort of the beginning of my political journey.

00:49:29.000 And I remember that...

00:49:31.000 I think it was Bill Maher, Sam Harris debate against who was it?

00:49:33.000 Ben Affleck over radical Islam.

00:49:35.000 That was one of the moments that actually kind of pushed me into conservative ideology and that was done by what?

00:49:40.000 A liberal who was like just saying something we still to this day like judge Bill Maher's intentions or what is he doing but if he's speaking to the audience and the audience moves in a certain direction it's a good direction I don't really think it's productive to care about what his intentions are because it doesn't matter.

00:49:55.000 Insofar as we recognize that should the wind blow the other direction they'll untrust towards your people.

00:50:00.000 And selecting leadership, it's important to gauge intention, but just for the outcome, it is irrelevant.

00:50:07.000 Especially in media.

00:50:08.000 That's the thing where intention matters the least.

00:50:10.000 It's like, what are they saying?

00:50:11.000 Where is it moving the conversation?

00:50:13.000 That's really what matters, in my opinion.

00:50:14.000 Results, not rhetoric.

00:50:15.000 What they're saying, just like you said, what they're saying is important, but are they actually moving people towards the center, moving people away from the woke, endorsing Actual liberal ideas, like classically liberal ideas.

00:50:30.000 The left has been very against the fundamental principles of the Constitution, like things like freedom of speech, the idea of property rights.

00:50:39.000 You know, the innocent until proven guilty, the left has totally abandoned that.

00:50:43.000 These are things that the normal people in America still actually value, and we need the people that have considered themselves Democrats to actually say, yes, we reject that.

00:50:53.000 And if Jenkin, Anna, and people like that help that process along, more power to them.

00:50:58.000 I think it reflects to the conversation that's happening in the whole Democrat Party since the election, which is, and I've been saying this, they have two choices, right?

00:51:05.000 They can double down on all the stuff that got them to lose the election, or they can try to wake up and be a more normal party.

00:51:11.000 And either way, it's a good thing, because if they just double down on what they've been doing, they're going to lose.

00:51:15.000 But if they kind of move a little bit to the center, then we're going to have a healthier political conversation.

00:51:19.000 And yeah, that might make them a little bit more difficult to beat.

00:51:22.000 But at the same time, if they do win the election, we don't have to be worried that we're going to lose the freaking country.

00:51:26.000 So either way, I think it's a good outcome.

00:51:29.000 Let's jump to this next story from the New York Times.

00:51:32.000 Daniel Penny is acquitted in the death of Jordan Neely on Subway.

00:51:36.000 My friends, the world is healing.

00:51:38.000 Mr. Penny choked Mr. Neely in a minutes-long struggle on the floor of the F-strain.

00:51:41.000 The case reflected the pathologies of post-pandemic New York.

00:51:45.000 Well, we've got this from Nick Sorter.

00:51:46.000 Daniel Penny is speaking out for the first time, and he and his lawyers, as they celebrate a massive victory, he was trying to help people on the train, and he did.

00:51:53.000 Here's the video of the man in question celebrating.

00:51:57.000 How you feeling?

00:51:58.000 Yeah.

00:51:59.000 He's feeling good.

00:52:00.000 He's feeling good.

00:52:01.000 He's hammered.

00:52:02.000 What's up?

00:52:04.000 Come together.

00:52:05.000 I would be.

00:52:06.000 Same.

00:52:07.000 How's it going?

00:52:07.000 How's it feel?

00:52:08.000 Feels great.

00:52:09.000 He's finally got the justice he's deserved.

00:52:12.000 Did you think it was going to happen?

00:52:14.000 Sorry?

00:52:16.000 Let me get away from the camera.

00:52:17.000 Yeah, he's like, I don't want to say the wrong thing.

00:52:19.000 No, we think that this should have happened probably on day one, but the point thing is it happened, so we can't control the timing of it, but we can certainly savor the outcome.

00:52:29.000 And why do you think it was not guilty?

00:52:31.000 That's that guy.

00:52:36.000 Well, he's not guilty on a few different reasons.

00:52:38.000 Because his actions were justified, he was trying to help people on that train, and he did.

00:52:43.000 And number two, he's not responsible for the death because the death was caused by a lot of other factors that we tried to present with a lot of clarity, such as the K2 abuse and the sickle cell, the sickling crisis, and cardiac injuries.

00:52:57.000 Not to mention the paranoid schizophrenia, which only added to that impact.

00:53:01.000 So I'm just glad that the jury was able to truly evaluate that as a potential cause of death and that Danny was justified in the actions that he took.

00:53:09.000 Yeah, he was.

00:53:10.000 And so, not guilty.

00:53:11.000 Now, leftists are already calling for riots, calling for violence.

00:53:14.000 BLM supporters are posting videos on TikTok saying that they have to get violent.

00:53:19.000 Now, much, much similar, I would say, it reflects very much so the UnitedHealthcare CEO's statements on violence.

00:53:26.000 And I'm surprised we haven't heard of riots breaking out in New York already, but who knows?

00:53:30.000 I mean, good.

00:53:32.000 Yeah, I think the general culture has shifted so much the past four years that there's not really the same appetite to listen to those leftists out there as there was before.

00:53:42.000 And there's more of an appetite, I would argue, too, probably by NYPD to just have less tolerance for this type of stuff.

00:53:48.000 I think you might see some isolated incidents.

00:53:50.000 But this whole situation is kind of an indicator of how much our country's changed since 2020. Because I think if that happened in 2020...

00:53:59.000 You probably get a conviction, most likely.

00:54:01.000 I think the situation, the political pressure on the jurors was significantly less than it would have been four years ago.

00:54:07.000 That's number one.

00:54:08.000 And then number two, I just think, again, the appetite to riot from a lot of these big cities is just not there anymore.

00:54:14.000 I mean, look at what happened when Trump won the election.

00:54:16.000 Nothing happened, right?

00:54:17.000 Their appetite to do this stuff is kind of dead, and I think that's a good thing.

00:54:21.000 I'm not sure why.

00:54:23.000 As a guess, I would say because without the BLM agitprop, the propaganda that went along with the initial 2020 riots and stuff like that, without that kind of stuff, it doesn't really motivate the people.

00:54:40.000 But I'm...

00:54:42.000 I wonder if people don't have the appetite because a lot of the people that had bought into the idea that thousands of black men per year were being killed, thousands of unarmed black men were being killed by the cops every year, which was blatantly false.

00:54:58.000 I wonder if the average...

00:55:02.000 person was made aware that that was just not even remotely close to true.

00:55:07.000 And so the narrative on the ground that there was a, you know, that even LeBron James was saying was just totally false, you know?

00:55:16.000 The shutdowns from COVID made people crazy everywhere.

00:55:20.000 And I wonder if people even are able to recognize how crazy the world had gone for those three years.

00:55:27.000 And it was like served as an inoculation of the consciousness.

00:55:30.000 People have come out of that with this new skepticism and lack of desire for tyranny.

00:55:35.000 Like they are just like looking for a reason to right the ship.

00:55:38.000 And this is an example.

00:55:40.000 I mean, I was shocked when we saw that video of Taylor Lorenz on Piers Morgan.

00:55:44.000 She wasn't wearing a mask.

00:55:46.000 I think she is.

00:55:47.000 Her immune system has improved.

00:55:49.000 No, I mean, she is getting people sick.

00:55:52.000 You know, what if someone in the other unit at her apartment complex breathes?

00:55:58.000 What if they got a scratch?

00:56:02.000 You're right, she wasn't wearing a mask.

00:56:04.000 She wasn't wearing a mask.

00:56:05.000 Good for you, Taylor.

00:56:05.000 You look great without a mask.

00:56:07.000 No, she's long argued she has a right to not wear a mask in private settings.

00:56:10.000 It's only in public settings she has to wear a mask because she went insane from COVID. I can't believe it.

00:56:15.000 Look, I am done with this.

00:56:17.000 If I go to a restaurant and I see someone wearing a mask, nope.

00:56:21.000 I'm going to be like, that person will not serve me.

00:56:23.000 It used to be like I'd see the occasional, I don't want to like stereotype, but it would sometimes be an Asian person.

00:56:30.000 Not always, but it was like common in Japan or in China to wear masks.

00:56:34.000 If you go to Japan, that's very, very normal.

00:56:35.000 If you're sick, you're sick.

00:56:36.000 So that way you don't sneeze or whatever.

00:56:38.000 And honestly, when COVID first hit, before it became a thing, I was like, well, you know, it would be kind of cool if people in America started wearing masks if they're sick, so that way they don't sneeze, because it's kind of cool in Japan.

00:56:51.000 And then it became a political thing, and I'm just like, well, I don't want...

00:56:54.000 And also, if it was even serving the process, like, the wrong mask, it would just be, like, socially, you know, just, like, virtue signaling, like, hey, look at me, and it's like, dude, that piece of cloth is not only carrying fecal, like, putrefactive bacteria on the inside of it, it's not sealing it, right?

00:57:13.000 In Japan, they don't wear it trying to seal anything.

00:57:15.000 They're just, like, so that way they don't, like, sneeze and get anything on people, so that way they, like...

00:57:20.000 Because if you sneeze, and you sneeze in your arm, you're sneezing on your clothing.

00:57:24.000 So if you have the mask on and you sneeze, then you could go ahead and take it off and toss it and put another one on.

00:57:30.000 Use it as if it's a tissue that's already on your face.

00:57:33.000 I think the reason I even brought that up is because you mentioned the riots in 2020. I think those were like a direct result of the shutdowns from the COVID response, the government overreach, and not being locked people.

00:57:43.000 Some countries did lock people in their homes, literally.

00:57:45.000 But in New York, these apartments are microscopic.

00:57:47.000 A lot of people, like the friends that I had, it's a studio bedroom that's – the room is 20 feet by 20 feet in a lot of these places.

00:57:56.000 And it's like your kitchen is – you have a kitchen.

00:57:59.000 That's it.

00:58:00.000 It's a kitchen with a TV and a couch in it.

00:58:01.000 You're locked in there every single day.

00:58:03.000 Sure, you can technically go outside, but there's no restaurants.

00:58:05.000 There's no stores.

00:58:05.000 You can't go anywhere.

00:58:06.000 What do you do?

00:58:06.000 So when the riots happened, people's brains snapped and they went out and they went nuts.

00:58:12.000 With all of that being said, this time Daniel Penny was acquitted.

00:58:16.000 I see this as a major victory.

00:58:19.000 There still is a concern, I brought it up last week when they tried pulling this scheme, that already, this sends a signal, they will use the procedure as the punishment.

00:58:27.000 But this still shows a trend in a positive direction where, I think in a couple years, we do see an end to this type of psychotic behavior.

00:58:34.000 And hopefully we return back to a society that says, you have responsibility in your life.

00:58:40.000 It is.

00:58:40.000 He's such a hero.

00:58:41.000 I will say that, man.

00:58:42.000 Daniel Penny, what he did.

00:58:43.000 If it's true what happened, and it seems like it was that he protected people on the subway.

00:58:47.000 This guy was terrorizing people on the subway, literally domestic terrorism at its finest, saying he was going to kill someone and go to jail for it.

00:58:54.000 And then three guys had to hold him down, including Daniel Penny and two other dudes who never really got pinned in this somehow.

00:59:01.000 And everyone turned out unharmed, except for the guy with paranoid schizophrenia who was on K2. There's just like Spice.

00:59:08.000 It's a type of synthetic cannabinoid.

00:59:11.000 It's nasty stuff.

00:59:12.000 I've had it before.

00:59:13.000 It is nasty stuff.

00:59:14.000 The sad reality, though, is at what point does he get his life back?

00:59:18.000 And that's still an open question because just a couple days ago, actually, I believe Jordan Neely's father is now trying to sue him.

00:59:24.000 So now they're trying to take him to civil court.

00:59:25.000 I don't think he's a guy with a lot of money to be paying all these legal fees.

00:59:29.000 And then a lot of civil courts in this country are totally broken.

00:59:31.000 So I would say even if he didn't get the criminal conviction, he might get the civil one.

00:59:36.000 How's he going to pay that out?

00:59:37.000 So we'll see.

00:59:38.000 But yeah, definitely this is a big step.

00:59:40.000 I kind of thought I saw this as a crossroads moment for the city of New York.

00:59:44.000 Because it's like, do they want to decide to go the full-blown, I know we don't want to use the word anarchy, but you know what I mean, route?

00:59:50.000 Or do they want to start taking steps in the right direction?

00:59:53.000 I think what you're seeing in a lot of Democrat cities in this country, you know, I recently, like I went to Detroit, for instance, over the summer for the Turning Point USA event.

01:00:01.000 And I was totally expecting Detroit to be, like, everything I imagined.

01:00:04.000 And it was the opposite.

01:00:05.000 Like, it was actually relatively clean.

01:00:07.000 It was nice.

01:00:08.000 I think even in these Democrat cities, even if they're not voting Republican nationally or even locally, you are seeing an increased appetite even from Democrat voters to want to kind of fix things.

01:00:18.000 Look at the anti-crime proposition in California.

01:00:20.000 That passed with 70% this time around.

01:00:23.000 And that's a good thing because I think revitalizing our cities is probably one of those steps needed to like take the country back as a whole.

01:00:32.000 What's the anti-crime prop in California?

01:00:34.000 So remember how California, they were doing the $950 thing where if you steal under $950, you know, they're not going to go after it.

01:00:42.000 So basically that made it.

01:00:43.000 So yeah, now those thefts are going to be prosecuted again.

01:00:46.000 And that mass.

01:00:47.000 Retroactively?

01:00:48.000 I don't think retroactively.

01:00:50.000 Okay.

01:00:50.000 I think going forward.

01:00:51.000 So I had this idea when that happened.

01:00:55.000 70%, by the way, in a Democrat state, like everyone voted for.

01:00:58.000 When that happened, I said, here's an idea.

01:01:00.000 Make everything in the store cost $1,000 and give a discount to people when they buy it.

01:01:04.000 Someone did that!

01:01:05.000 Really?

01:01:05.000 That's awesome.

01:01:06.000 Someone actually did it.

01:01:07.000 They put everything in the store as $950, discount for honest customers.

01:01:11.000 $1,000.

01:01:11.000 So that way they could get it prosecuted.

01:01:13.000 Yeah, it's pretty wild.

01:01:14.000 Man, that's a great example of society becoming normal again.

01:01:18.000 They're just like, violent crime, and theft is considered a violent crime.

01:01:22.000 It's no good.

01:01:23.000 It does not stand, and that is the detour of society.

01:01:27.000 You know what I want to say to everybody here?

01:01:30.000 Take a look at your investment accounts for those that have them, because I'm going to say this.

01:01:34.000 In 2020, when we were all for Trump, looking at all these problems, we were years ahead of the normies.

01:01:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:01:41.000 No disrespect, normies, but we were years ahead of them.

01:01:44.000 2024 comes around.

01:01:45.000 They catch up.

01:01:46.000 Trump ends up winning for much of the same reason.

01:01:49.000 The Wall Street Journal says the gender ideology stuff was a sleeper issue.

01:01:53.000 Abortion ended up mattering.

01:01:55.000 The democracy ended up mattering.

01:01:57.000 But in the direction towards Trump, when polled, if democracy was at risk, More people voting for Trump said it was than Democrats, meaning the lawfare against Trump was viewed.

01:02:08.000 Now in 2020, we all knew this stuff.

01:02:10.000 We all knew the impeachment was a scam.

01:02:12.000 We all knew that wokeness was bad.

01:02:14.000 We were four years ahead of everybody.

01:02:15.000 So think about where we are now and where we will be in four years.

01:02:19.000 I should make a little clarification.

01:02:21.000 I said that theft is a violent crime, and technically it's not, even though stealing someone's livelihood and taking away their food could be sort of like a passive form of violence.

01:02:32.000 Well, it's literally not a violent crime, depending on what you're doing and how you're stealing, right?

01:02:38.000 So like mugging is a violent crime, but larceny is not a violent crime.

01:02:43.000 Robbery, aggravated.

01:02:43.000 Actually, not sorry.

01:02:44.000 Robbery.

01:02:44.000 So robbery is a violent crime?

01:02:46.000 Is that considered?

01:02:47.000 If you're robbing a person.

01:02:48.000 But not a store?

01:02:49.000 Yeah.

01:02:50.000 Is that even considered robbery if you go into a store and take?

01:02:52.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

01:02:52.000 Robbery is a violent crime that involves taking property from another person using force or threat of force.

01:02:56.000 Yeah, so if you go into a store and take stuff off the walls.

01:02:59.000 No, no, that's shoplifting.

01:03:01.000 That's not robbery.

01:03:02.000 That's shoplifting.

01:03:03.000 Yeah, it's usually considered theft or even theft.

01:03:05.000 If you have a mask on, though, is there considered threat?

01:03:07.000 It's still shoplifting.

01:03:09.000 I think they'll be described as petty theft.

01:03:11.000 Which is a form of violent crime, theft?

01:03:13.000 No.

01:03:14.000 Look, I'm trying, I'm trying, but maybe there's a reason it's not.

01:03:17.000 Robbery.

01:03:18.000 Yeah, because you're not actually for any violence.

01:03:20.000 Did you see the video of the woman in there, like, knocking all the bottles of alcohol off the thing, and the guy just goes up to the owner of the store and just decks her in the face?

01:03:26.000 People are like, someone had to do it!

01:03:28.000 Or the little girl doing it?

01:03:30.000 What's that?

01:03:31.000 That little girl smashing everything in the store.

01:03:34.000 And they're going, don't do it, stop filming her, leave her alone, you don't know what she's going through.

01:03:38.000 And I'm like...

01:03:40.000 Look, I don't think you should hurt the child, but any adult could literally just grab her arms and hold her so she stops and say, look, I'm not trying to hurt you, but you gotta stop.

01:03:48.000 But, I gotta be honest, I ain't doing it.

01:03:50.000 How many of you guys would walk up to a little black girl who was smashing up a store and grab her arms to stop her from doing anything?

01:03:55.000 Probably get charged with, like, murder.

01:03:58.000 I'm not going anywhere.

01:03:59.000 I'm going to laugh at the store and be like, look, man, this is why I don't live in these cities.

01:04:02.000 Y'all vote for this stuff.

01:04:04.000 And then what I hear from a lot of these people, a lot of conservatives who are like back to the blue, I'm like, dude, you know those cops would arrest you.

01:04:10.000 Those cops arrested Daniel Penny.

01:04:11.000 Those cops arrested Trump.

01:04:13.000 How is it that Donald Trump is falsely charged with these BS charges and the cops are like, don't know, don't care, Trump, you're going to jail.

01:04:19.000 Yeah, the How come they weren't like, I refuse to be party to whatever it is you're doing?

01:04:22.000 The arrest of Daniel Penny is wild.

01:04:24.000 I think it was actually his interrogation that got him exonerated.

01:04:27.000 There's probably other evidence too, but once that got released, I don't think we've ever played it on the show.

01:04:32.000 It's pretty fascinating.

01:04:33.000 Why wasn't that every single cop saying, I will not be party to whatever it is you're doing to Daniel Penny?

01:04:38.000 And they said, then it's your job.

01:04:40.000 Okay.

01:04:41.000 Because these cops are not good people.

01:04:44.000 I'm not saying all cops are bad.

01:04:45.000 I'm not saying all cops are not good people.

01:04:46.000 I'm saying the cops in New York, who are part of a mechanism where the guy at the top is appointed by a Democrat to enact Democrat policies when they illegally stole, when de Blasio stole taxpayer money to paint Black Lives Matter in front of the Trump Tower, and then put 27 police officers to guard it.

01:05:06.000 All of that was illegal, and those cops don't care.

01:05:09.000 I have no sympathy for them.

01:05:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it's important to understand that ultimately police, like, because the argument I always hear, the counter-argument I always hear to you, Tim, is like, well, they don't really agree with it, though.

01:05:21.000 You know, don't you know most cops are Republicans?

01:05:23.000 They're in agreement.

01:05:24.000 But it's like, at the end of the day, what is their job?

01:05:26.000 Their job is to be enforcement mechanisms of the state.

01:05:29.000 And if the state is run by the people we don't like, then they're going to be doing the things we don't like.

01:05:32.000 And so, you know, it's not an animosity thing towards personal police officers.

01:05:36.000 But as an institution, yeah, they are against us in a lot of these areas.

01:05:40.000 Imagine a couple of crime family members mercilessly beat a child with an inch of his life.

01:05:48.000 And then when you go to arrest him, he says, hey, yo, don't look at me.

01:05:50.000 You know, like, the boss told me to do it.

01:05:52.000 It's not my fault.

01:05:53.000 And they went, oh, he's right.

01:05:54.000 The boss told him to do it.

01:05:55.000 I mean, he didn't want to do it.

01:05:56.000 But they told him to, so he had to.

01:05:58.000 So he's not criminally responsible.

01:05:59.000 In what reality do we say police officers are not responsible for the actions they take?

01:06:04.000 It's insane to me.

01:06:06.000 And I know people are going to say, like, Daniel Penny was charged with a crime.

01:06:09.000 Oh, spare me, dude.

01:06:10.000 Anybody with eyes saw that Daniel Penny did not commit any crimes.

01:06:14.000 Yeah.

01:06:15.000 And now he had to go through all this to justify or to prove it is insane.

01:06:18.000 All that needed to happen was for each and every one of those cops to be like, boss, I ain't charging this guy.

01:06:23.000 He didn't do anything wrong.

01:06:25.000 You find somebody else because I'm not going to be dealing with the aftermath of this.

01:06:27.000 So right now I got people on Twitter and they're saying the prosecutor should go to jail.

01:06:31.000 I think every cop involved in his detainment should go to jail, too.

01:06:33.000 I'm done.

01:06:35.000 When Cronister got the nomination for the head of DEA and then and then the story broke.

01:06:41.000 The story we already knew, but the story went wild.

01:06:43.000 That he had arrested a pastor for trying to host church services during COVID lockdown.

01:06:48.000 He got denied and rejected from that position.

01:06:50.000 Everybody was willing to line up against a sheriff for arresting a pastor.

01:06:54.000 Where are the same calls for the cops who are facilitating the injustice against Daniel Panning?

01:06:59.000 I think if cops got arrested for arresting someone that was found innocent in hindsight, they'd stop arresting people, which could be a big problem.

01:07:08.000 Because there are a lot of people, they're not really up to them.

01:07:11.000 It's better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.

01:07:13.000 And in this regard, I think everybody saw the video and knew what happened and said, we will not be a society that will penalize one man of three.

01:07:22.000 Three guys detained Jordan Neely.

01:07:24.000 Only one got charged.

01:07:25.000 We're not talking about an issue where we heard a story where two guys got into a fight and someone died.

01:07:30.000 What do we do?

01:07:31.000 If a cop arrests those people, totally get it.

01:07:33.000 We're talking about Daniel Penny as one of three people who subdued a man and only he got charged.

01:07:38.000 And I will say it's because he's white.

01:07:41.000 Oh, he's tall and beautiful.

01:07:42.000 Yeah, he got pariah.

01:07:43.000 And the other guys who held down Jordan Neely got nothing, no charges.

01:07:47.000 This was a pure perversion of justice.

01:07:50.000 And the cops who knew all of these details and said, what happened?

01:07:54.000 A guy threatened to murder people, said he wasn't scared to go to jail.

01:07:58.000 He was on drugs.

01:07:59.000 They said they wouldn't render advanced aid because they were concerned of getting AIDS. I'm not exaggerating.

01:08:03.000 They said they gave him chest compressions but wouldn't give him mouth-to-mouth because they don't want to get AIDS. That could be a contributing factor to why he died.

01:08:09.000 Then he dies...

01:08:10.000 Daniel Penny gives an interview where he doesn't even know the guy died.

01:08:13.000 He said, look, I'm not trying to kill the guy.

01:08:14.000 He's just threatening people, so I held him down.

01:08:15.000 Two other guys held him down, and they did not get charged.

01:08:20.000 Now the narrative from Black Lives Matter is that it's a racist oppression, ignoring the fact that two other non-white men were subduing Jordan Neely as well, stopping him from fighting back.

01:08:29.000 This was clearly political, racist BS, and every single cop who said, I am still going to violate the rights of Daniel Penny should be charged.

01:08:39.000 There's people that are saying that, oh, self-defense is now legal in New York.

01:08:44.000 I don't care what anyone says.

01:08:46.000 Like, that is still a risk.

01:08:48.000 Like, Daniel Penney's been in custody and dealing with this for the past, what, eight months or something like that?

01:08:54.000 And you could argue still he got lucky in the sense that he didn't get.

01:08:58.000 It's not legal.

01:08:59.000 You need to get serious changes in the DA's office and possibly or probably in the police force as well before you can say, okay, yeah, self-defense is legal.

01:09:11.000 And you probably need some changes to your...

01:09:15.000 You see that other guy who stabbed somebody in a train and didn't get charged?

01:09:19.000 That was a big part of the story.

01:09:21.000 There was another man who was black.

01:09:22.000 The same situation, but he was black.

01:09:24.000 A guy was threatening people, confronted him.

01:09:27.000 He somehow stabbed him.

01:09:28.000 The guy died.

01:09:29.000 No charges.

01:09:30.000 And so that's what I'm talking about.

01:09:32.000 The cops had no problem being like, okay, this guy stabbed and killed the guy.

01:09:35.000 We're not going to do anything here.

01:09:37.000 And I understand people are going to say, yes, the leadership, Tim.

01:09:39.000 And I'm like, okay, so if you're a cop and you're looking at three men subduing a guy and they say only charge the white guy and you go, you got a boss.

01:09:47.000 Oh, you're a bad person.

01:09:48.000 You're evil.

01:09:49.000 I don't care.

01:09:50.000 I don't care what anybody says.

01:09:51.000 You should be like, hey, man, find somebody else.

01:09:53.000 I ain't doing it.

01:09:54.000 Well, I guess the counter-argument to that is usually like, well, how are they going to feed their family, right?

01:09:58.000 So my take on this has always been, I understand that the police have a job to do, whatever, but it's just like, I'm not going to sit here and say I back the blue or wave that police flag when it's like, well, it's kind of complicated, right?

01:10:10.000 Because it's like, yeah, I understand you guys have a job to do, but still, objectively, you're enforcing tyranny, so I'm not anti-police, but don't expect me to give you a medal for arresting No, I think they should be arrested.

01:10:19.000 I think they should be criminally charged.

01:10:21.000 I think violation of rights.

01:10:22.000 I think, you know, you want to make an argument about qualified immunity and that stuff.

01:10:25.000 The only way things like this stop, you want a virtuous society.

01:10:29.000 It's a cultural shift.

01:10:30.000 We need to say we do not tolerate politics.

01:10:33.000 But in a city like New York, couldn't BLM do that in the reverse?

01:10:36.000 Well, yeah.

01:10:36.000 Could Daniel Penney file a civil suit against the city of New York for some sort of violation?

01:10:41.000 I think that's the angle.

01:10:42.000 The issue ultimately becomes why my principal's position is I'm not going to live in cities like that, and I retreat to you get what you deserve, because you're correct.

01:10:52.000 The leadership of New York has created the situation.

01:10:55.000 I personally think they're in violation of the Constitution, and Donald Trump, Kash Patel, Pam Bonney, whoever, should launch—they announced Harmeet Dillon as the attorney for what, civil rights?

01:11:06.000 I'm hoping that she can pursue violation of rights and go after people in New York for what they did to Donald Trump.

01:11:13.000 I'm hoping the federal government can say, I don't care what the stupid crackpot morons in your city voted for.

01:11:18.000 There is a constitution in this country, and you cannot get away with stealing taxpayer dollars to paint an ideological message in your street and then fund 27 cops to do that.

01:11:27.000 That is stealing public funds.

01:11:28.000 There needs to be federal investigations for these perverted actions in government.

01:11:34.000 So, whatever, man.

01:11:35.000 That's why, ultimately, I just say, you are right, Vince.

01:11:38.000 That the left and BLM, this happened because they demand it, and the city is scared of them, and they don't care.

01:11:44.000 So I just choose not to live there, and the people who want to live there, when these things happen to them, I say, guys, if you support these cops and say the cops should be allowed to do this, the people who are chatting, saying, don't blame the cops, Tim, that's fine.

01:11:55.000 When the cop comes and cracks you over the skull and says, my boss told me to do it, I won't defend you.

01:11:59.000 I don't care.

01:11:59.000 And you'll tell me it's probably not going to happen.

01:12:01.000 You're probably right.

01:12:01.000 It won't happen.

01:12:02.000 Well, that's why my position on the police is kind of like almost neutral, right?

01:12:06.000 Because it's like, I understand my main gripe is with the state, but they're enforcers of the state, so I'm not going to really love them for it or hate them for it.

01:12:13.000 Yeah, it's like hating the club when it's the guy swinging the club.

01:12:16.000 Like, the cop's supposed to be a neutral arm of the government, supposed to, but it's a human being, and they have discernment.

01:12:21.000 They have the ability to not arrest a guy if they think it's time to not arrest the guy, and they have a...

01:12:28.000 In the opposite, they're supposed to arrest a guy if they think this situation deems it.

01:12:33.000 So they're not truly neutral, but they're supposed to be as close to it as possible, I guess.

01:12:38.000 Police?

01:12:39.000 I don't know that police are supposed to be neutral.

01:12:41.000 They're supposed to carry out the law, and the law's not really neutral.

01:12:44.000 But I think the problem is with the law.

01:12:46.000 They are supposed to be neutral.

01:12:47.000 They're supposed to be neutral arbiters of the law, but they're not.

01:12:49.000 Because they're appointed by Democrats in big cities.

01:12:51.000 That's true.

01:12:52.000 And there you go.

01:12:53.000 Neutral arbiters of a non-neutral legal system.

01:12:56.000 So, net non-neutrality.

01:12:59.000 I mean, I don't think that...

01:13:01.000 Maybe they're supposed to be, but the police haven't been neutral in quite a long time.

01:13:05.000 What do you mean by that?

01:13:07.000 What do you mean by they're not neutral?

01:13:08.000 Well, the police are going to be like, well, I'll let this guy off today.

01:13:13.000 I feel like how they feel.

01:13:15.000 If you are charismatic, they'll let people off.

01:13:20.000 Right, but politically neutral, in reference to what the police are supposed to do, is that they're not going to say, I arrest Democrats and let Republicans go, or vice versa.

01:13:25.000 No, but I think that police will make assumptions based on those things, and they'll say, well, this guy, I don't like the way this guy looks, or whatever, and stuff like that.

01:13:33.000 So I think that that's...

01:13:34.000 Oh, that's a fair point.

01:13:36.000 Maybe it's just the fact that they're human, but they're going to have biases.

01:13:39.000 I think I'd rather have biased human cops than neutral robot cops that just do exactly what the politicians want them to do.

01:13:46.000 I feel safer with the human element being like, this one's gone too far, dude.

01:13:51.000 You did see the Nazi regime fall in line.

01:13:53.000 It was a terrifying example of what humans can do.

01:13:56.000 They're largely amoral people in New York City.

01:13:59.000 And I'm not saying immoral.

01:14:02.000 I say amoral.

01:14:02.000 Meaning...

01:14:03.000 A cop is told, Daniel Penny, they know exactly what happens.

01:14:08.000 A guy was threatening to murder a bunch of people.

01:14:10.000 Those people thanked Daniel Penny for saving their lives.

01:14:13.000 Two other men assisted Daniel Penny in subduing the man.

01:14:15.000 I want you to go arrest Daniel Penny, not those two other men, despite the fact they did the same things.

01:14:20.000 And everyone said Daniel Penny saved their lives.

01:14:22.000 We don't care.

01:14:23.000 He's going to go to prison.

01:14:24.000 The cop goes, you got a bus.

01:14:25.000 He has no moral structure whatsoever.

01:14:27.000 I think if the guy that was choked, Jordan Neely, had survived, they wouldn't have charged Daniel Penny.

01:14:33.000 They wouldn't have done it.

01:14:33.000 Of course.

01:14:34.000 It was because of the debt.

01:14:35.000 It was like an emotional charge.

01:14:38.000 It's because BLM has political power and the Democrats appoint the police and the police are like, shut up and do as you're told.

01:14:44.000 And the beat cops are amoral.

01:14:46.000 Again, I'm stressing, I'm not saying they're immoral.

01:14:47.000 I'm saying they lack morals.

01:14:49.000 They stand there and say, you know, that's the system.

01:14:52.000 Daniel Penny, you're going to jail.

01:14:53.000 And I'm like, you know, if you had a moral structure, you'd say, it is not within my power to arrest this guy.

01:14:57.000 They're cheering for him, guy.

01:14:58.000 What are you talking about?

01:14:59.000 They also have no scruples and no fear.

01:15:01.000 There's no community.

01:15:03.000 Largely what I see as a problem with the police departments is that you go to a small town, what happens?

01:15:07.000 Very small town, the way it used to be back in the day.

01:15:09.000 I'm talking hundreds of years ago.

01:15:10.000 You know the cops?

01:15:11.000 The cop says, he pulls you over, Ian, and he goes, Ian!

01:15:15.000 What are you speeding for?

01:15:17.000 You know I'm going to see your dad at the bar tonight, and I've got to tell him I caught you speeding.

01:15:20.000 I'm going to give you a ticket.

01:15:21.000 What is he going to say to me?

01:15:22.000 And you're going to go, don't tell my dad.

01:15:24.000 And he'll be like, okay, I'm going to tell you what.

01:15:25.000 I'll let you off with a warning, but for the love of all this holy, you stop speeding.

01:15:29.000 Otherwise, I'm going to your dad.

01:15:30.000 And that's how society was.

01:15:32.000 It's also, there's no fear of like, or there's much less fear of like, psychotic dudes wrapped up on pharma, like, or whatever crazy drugs armed.

01:15:40.000 It's like, in a small town, most people are just, either they're out drinking, or that's it.

01:15:44.000 Or they know who the crazy guy is, and he's in the drunk tank all the time.

01:15:47.000 So in big cities, the cop says, dude, I don't know you.

01:15:50.000 I don't care.

01:15:50.000 I got kids.

01:15:51.000 Bye.

01:15:51.000 And so we end up with an amoral society.

01:15:54.000 People talk about how we want to fix these things.

01:15:56.000 That's why I say abortion shouldn't be illegal.

01:15:58.000 It should be unthinkable.

01:16:00.000 That's Ron Paul's quote, not mine.

01:16:04.000 We—the conservatives were like, well, let's ban it.

01:16:05.000 And I'm like, you're not going to change the fact that these far leftists are going to do weird, wacky, crazy things.

01:16:09.000 They're going to keep doing it.

01:16:10.000 What we need is to build a culture of shame.

01:16:13.000 Shame is a good thing.

01:16:14.000 We need to bring shame back.

01:16:16.000 And we need to tell these nasty—like, I don't care if it's a man or a woman—the whore hookup culture.

01:16:23.000 You are shamed.

01:16:24.000 We shame you for doing these things, okay?

01:16:25.000 OK, and then you feel bad.

01:16:28.000 Don't shame me.

01:16:29.000 Now, I'm going to shame you quite a bit.

01:16:31.000 You're a drug addicted, overweight communist.

01:16:34.000 You deserve all of the shame and derision that one can muster.

01:16:37.000 And I'm not saying anybody should harm them.

01:16:40.000 I'm saying we're going to tell you.

01:16:45.000 I think that's a very legitimate point because I think a lot of the culture in conservative circles for so long has been back the blue, back the blue, the police are always good no matter what.

01:16:57.000 And I understand where that grows from because this is kind of out of the context of crazy left-wing activists wanting to abolish the police constantly.

01:17:03.000 And, you know, basically their gripe with the police is when the police properly enforce the law, it's bad.

01:17:08.000 That's the left's gripe, right?

01:17:09.000 So that leads us into a position where we're usually defending the police.

01:17:12.000 But it is important to understand the nuance that, well, simultaneously, police are enforcement arms of the state.

01:17:18.000 And they usually do a lot of bad things that we disagree with because we disagree with the state.

01:17:21.000 And yeah, we should absolutely apply a culture of shame when we disagree with the actions of the police like that.

01:17:27.000 So I agree with you on that.

01:17:27.000 What people on the right don't realize is that this is this is the principal strategy of the left, which has been for 10 years.

01:17:32.000 And we are now putting it aside because our shame has worked better.

01:17:36.000 So the left played this game of police aren't allowed to come to my coffee shop.

01:17:40.000 They were literally saying we don't like police in general.

01:17:43.000 You can't buy coffee from me.

01:17:44.000 And they would shame them in public.

01:17:47.000 This was cancel culture.

01:17:48.000 This is how wokeness was being enforced.

01:17:50.000 We have pushed back because boycotts are better in the long run, and it forces these companies to reassess.

01:17:56.000 As for institutional power at the government level, there's got to be a degree of shame.

01:17:59.000 As for healthcare and abortion, there has to be a degree of shame.

01:18:02.000 But let's jump to this next story.

01:18:04.000 World War III has already begun, Jamie Dimon warns.

01:18:08.000 Says his team is preparing for serious conflict with China and Russia.

01:18:11.000 Three assets to protect yourself in 2025. I love that they, this is an article.

01:18:15.000 Realistical?

01:18:16.000 That's right.

01:18:17.000 This is an article from November, actually, that they reposted because of what just happened in Syria with Bashar al-Assad fleeing, the Assad family fleeing to Moscow and being granted asylum.

01:18:28.000 This is massive.

01:18:30.000 Russia has fled.

01:18:32.000 Their vessels have fled the naval base in Tartus, substantially weakening their position in the Mediterranean and the Black Sea.

01:18:40.000 Tartus is Mediterranean.

01:18:42.000 Sevastopol is Black Sea, but their Black Sea flagship was bombed by Ukrainian forces with U.S. and Western assistance.

01:18:49.000 So the question then becomes, with everything we're seeing here, and now we have this issue of Taiwan on high alert as of today due to some 90 warships being deployed by China.

01:18:59.000 I think it was 90, some large number.

01:19:01.000 We are looking at a potential dramatic escalation.

01:19:04.000 The question that becomes with serious collapse, this is a principal ally of Russia.

01:19:08.000 Russia stopped protecting them.

01:19:10.000 The rebels were able to the rebel alliance, they call it, was able to advance into Damascus and take the capital.

01:19:18.000 Russia's pulled out, focusing on its war in Ukraine.

01:19:20.000 One could say it's looking like Russia is being crushed and could lose.

01:19:25.000 The concern then becomes that appears to be true.

01:19:27.000 If Russia does feel back to a corner, do they drag in Russia or China and Iran?

01:19:33.000 Does China then make a move on Taiwan while the heavy focus is here in Eastern Europe and the Middle East?

01:19:39.000 Or does Russia say, screw it, if I'm going down?

01:19:42.000 Or Putin says, if I'm going down, I'm firing nukes.

01:19:44.000 And then does it?

01:19:46.000 I don't know.

01:19:46.000 I mean, I have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of Putin actually firing nukes.

01:19:53.000 Do you think that if Putin was facing the collapse of the Russian Federation, that he would just be like, guess I lose?

01:20:01.000 I don't know.

01:20:02.000 I'm not saying that facetiously.

01:20:02.000 Or would he be like, we're using nukes?

01:20:05.000 I don't know.

01:20:06.000 I know that there are hardline people in Russia that really think that...

01:20:12.000 Putin is too soft with the West.

01:20:14.000 So I don't think that the possibility of nukes is outside, you know, I don't think that it's outside of the realm of possibility.

01:20:23.000 But I don't know if they would use nukes over Ukraine.

01:20:28.000 And I'm not saying that I think they wouldn't.

01:20:30.000 We're not talking about just Ukraine.

01:20:31.000 We're talking about they've just lost Syria and their military base in Tartus.

01:20:35.000 Their naval fleet has been forced to retreat and flood the area in the past month.

01:20:39.000 Part of the reason why they lost the stuff, why Syria had to lost the war, is because Russia has been so weakened by Ukraine.

01:20:50.000 By the fight for two and a half years, now three years in Ukraine.

01:20:54.000 So if they were going to use nukes, I feel like they might have already...

01:21:00.000 And again, I don't have a strong feeling one way or the other.

01:21:03.000 But they did lose all this stuff and all these assets in Syria by losing Syria.

01:21:09.000 But the reason they lost Syria is because they're so depleted in Ukraine.

01:21:12.000 So I don't know if they would...

01:21:14.000 And so let's draw them to the bigger picture.

01:21:16.000 Russia, with military interests in Syria and a naval base, which gives them access to the Mediterranean, just lost their Mediterranean access and was forced to retreat because they're losing badly in Ukraine.

01:21:25.000 It's not a question of them saying they wouldn't use nukes over Ukraine.

01:21:28.000 This is they're withdrawing their international military apparatus because they are losing on their home front.

01:21:36.000 I think they know.

01:21:36.000 I would imagine, and this is just...

01:21:38.000 Again, I'm not an expert or anything like that.

01:21:40.000 But if they're weakened to the point where they can't back Syria anymore, the last thing they want to do is use nuclear weapons because that would only invite aggression from all of NATO.

01:21:51.000 And so, I mean, if they're just like saying, OK, then we'll just kill everyone on Earth.

01:21:56.000 And I don't know that that's what they want, because if they can't defend Syria, if they can't support Syria, who's doing the heavy lifting?

01:22:04.000 Honestly, they're just sending them money and weapons.

01:22:05.000 If they don't have the military assets to defend Syria, then that means they're depleted and they're fighting in Ukraine for the past three years.

01:22:13.000 If they were to go ahead and use a nuke, they're going to draw military action from the whole of NATO.

01:22:19.000 We'll break it down again.

01:22:20.000 Russia is losing.

01:22:21.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 They're losing so badly that their external apparatus is being dismantled.

01:22:26.000 Yes.

01:22:26.000 And Vladimir Putin is going to go, I guess I lose?

01:22:29.000 No, I don't think it's as simple as, I guess I lose.

01:22:33.000 I surrender?

01:22:34.000 No, because he's not surrendering anything.

01:22:35.000 The option is, do I want to fight NATO? So they already believe they are fighting NATO. It was Western intelligence.

01:22:43.000 Do they want to fight directly with NATO? Right.

01:22:45.000 They want to take on...

01:22:46.000 But again, again, the question is, will Putin surrender?

01:22:51.000 I don't think he's going to surrender, but I don't think that is...

01:22:54.000 I don't think surrender or nuking...

01:22:55.000 Hold on.

01:22:57.000 Honestly, it's...

01:22:59.000 He's lost his external military apparatus to try and shore up.

01:23:02.000 He's asking for up to 100,000 North Koreans to aid him.

01:23:05.000 He is losing.

01:23:08.000 What's the next move that he has?

01:23:10.000 Retreat from Bryansk and Kursk Falls?

01:23:12.000 I don't know enough about the internal struggles of Russia to make a prediction, but I think that the option of using nukes...

01:23:21.000 That draws NATO into direct conflict, not proxy war, NATO to direct conflict with Russia.

01:23:27.000 That's immaterial.

01:23:27.000 The question is, if Vladimir Putin is losing on his own border to the point that his external military apparatus is collapsing, the question he asks himself is, do I escalate the conflict, which would be the next degree would probably be a nuclear artillery, you know, howitzers and such.

01:23:44.000 The Russian term, I don't know the Russian term for the artilleries they use.

01:23:46.000 And with warheads, because they are losing, Ukraine is launching incursions and missile strikes into Bryansk and Kursk.

01:23:54.000 Or, I mean, look, the fact that Syria collapsed because they could no longer assist them.

01:23:58.000 I don't think bigger bombs is going to change it.

01:24:02.000 So does Russia surrender?

01:24:03.000 No, I don't think they surrender, but I also don't think that just using larger bombs gets them out of the situation.

01:24:14.000 So, they're losing.

01:24:17.000 They can lose or they can escalate use of force.

01:24:21.000 They don't need to escalate.

01:24:23.000 So they lose.

01:24:24.000 It's not an option of they lose or they escalate.

01:24:27.000 Right now, the Ukrainians haven't been able to make any kind of gains.

01:24:33.000 If I understand correctly, Russia's been making all of the gains in Ukraine in the past 12 months.

01:24:38.000 The Ukrainians have taken back no territory.

01:24:40.000 So it's not a situation of just give them bigger bombs and they're going to be able to...

01:24:45.000 It's a question of...

01:24:47.000 Ukraine's obviously in a very, very dire situation, but they're getting infinite funding from the West.

01:24:54.000 Which might soon go away, though.

01:24:56.000 Yeah, I think that they're just holding on.

01:24:58.000 I think Russia's best play is hold on until Donald Trump comes in, and then look for a deal.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, I think that they've lost their Syrian territory, and that theater is gone, but they're going to hold on and try and negotiate some sort of white peace where they just keep territory they've taken.

01:25:16.000 Which allows Putin to save face, too, so he doesn't have to get desperate.

01:25:19.000 This is Putin's surrender.

01:25:21.000 When Donald Trump comes in, if Trump says to Putin, the war is over, and cedes some Ukrainian territory or Sevastopol or something like this, the Donbass, Mariupol, etc., etc., Putin has surrendered, especially losing Syria.

01:25:34.000 They call it a white peace, which is the war just ends.

01:25:38.000 And whoever has whatever, that's just where it is.

01:25:40.000 surrender.

01:25:40.000 We've talked about it quite a bit, but one of the principal components of this conflict is the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, which is rooted in Europe getting cheaper energy.

01:25:47.000 Europe getting cheaper energy.

01:25:49.000 Gazprom controls about a quarter of natural gas into Europe through Ukraine.

01:25:54.000 And this keeps the price that they have a stranglehold on the price of gas, which according to when I say this is surface level stuff, the Western intelligence, this is a problem for European economic growth.

01:25:54.000 And this keeps the price, they have a stranglehold on the price of gas, which according to, and I said this is surface level stuff, the Western intelligence, this is a problem for European economic growth.

01:26:08.000 And and again, mainstream sourcing on this, I think there's probably a lot more at play.

01:26:14.000 The idea is that Europe needs to grow as an economic block faster to compete with China's rapid growth.

01:26:19.000 And they can't because Russia is jacking up the price of energy, which makes it harder for the people of Europe.

01:26:26.000 So NATO, the US and Europe wanted to build a gas pipeline through Syria and Turkey into Europe to offset the gas prom monopoly.

01:26:33.000 Syria said, no, Russia is our ally and we will not allow you to build a gas pipeline that would disrupt their their gas, their energy trade.

01:26:42.000 Basically, what do they call?

01:26:43.000 They call Russia a gas station with snow or something like this.

01:26:46.000 They say they just provide energy to Europe.

01:26:48.000 Basically, that's the only way they operate.

01:26:51.000 So after Syria says no, because our our ally Russia would be upset.

01:26:56.000 So The U.S. then, this was publicly stated in The Guardian in 2012, basically the U.S. said, we will overthrow the government of Syria so that we can build this pipeline.

01:27:06.000 The ISIS rises, the country falls in a civil war, Barack Obama and seemingly under his leadership, oh geez, ISIS ends up with a pickup truck from Detroit or whatever.

01:27:18.000 Now, there's a big area of contention is whether or not the West was actually supplying weapons to these terrorists.

01:27:23.000 But as the story goes, everybody says, right, that's the case.

01:27:26.000 And the idea was if Al-Qaeda and ISIS and these other groups continue to gain control of the region, Assad will be removed from power, regardless of your views of whether he's a good or bad person.

01:27:37.000 And with the instability in the region, we can send in the troops, stage an incursion, control it, build our pipeline and shut down Russia's control of gas.

01:27:46.000 Yeah.

01:27:46.000 This is also why the Nord Stream pipeline got blown up because they're basically saying Russia is controlling too much interest in Europe and Europe is saying okay to them.

01:27:55.000 So what ends up happening now is after Syria says no, Iran and Russia teamed up to build a pipeline that would go through Syria and Turkey and strengthen Russian control of energy in Europe.

01:28:06.000 Surprise, surprise, Syrian civil war happens.

01:28:09.000 If now the Syrian government has collapsed, paving the way for the West to come in with Israel now bombing weapon sites and Turkey invading from the north and the U.S. also engaging in strikes, I believe drone strikes.

01:28:21.000 This paves the way, removes all opposition.

01:28:24.000 And with Tartus being evacuated, the Russians now have no military option for countering Western forces building a pipeline to shut down their energy trade.

01:28:33.000 Russia lost.

01:28:35.000 The question then becomes, does Vladimir Putin just say, OK, please stop, please, I'm beaten and leave me alone?

01:28:40.000 Or is he a psychotic lunatic the way the media's implied he is?

01:28:44.000 And he says, you have taken Syria, you have shut down, you blew up our pipeline enough and say we're moving in.

01:28:51.000 Does this lead to a bigger conflict?

01:28:53.000 I'm not saying it does.

01:28:54.000 It's not so simple to say that, you know, Trump comes in and he goes, well, gee golly me, I guess it's over.

01:28:59.000 The loss of Syria is massive for Russia's interests.

01:29:02.000 This would mean that if Trump comes in and the war does end, Putin is basically saying, please, I surrender.

01:29:08.000 That's it.

01:29:09.000 Well, it would be what is going to be surrendered in the final terms?

01:29:12.000 What's going to be given over from Russia to the others?

01:29:16.000 It may be nothing.

01:29:17.000 It might just be like, the war is now over.

01:29:19.000 So technically, wouldn't it be a surrender?

01:29:21.000 Whatever was seized before the war is negotiated over has been seized.

01:29:25.000 So it's technically not a surrender.

01:29:26.000 But even though it's basically lost to Tartus.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, if Russia doesn't give back territory, like if Russia gets to keep the territory that it gained, it's not a surrender.

01:29:34.000 They won.

01:29:35.000 A white piece.

01:29:35.000 Putin can still save face in the public.

01:29:37.000 Losing Syria is a substantially larger loss than the land bridge.

01:29:42.000 Fair enough, but Syria isn't Russian territory.

01:29:46.000 Losing the bases in Syria, yes, but...

01:29:49.000 The control of Ukraine to NATO is a non-starter for Russia, hence the invasion in the first place.

01:29:55.000 It is not just...

01:29:56.000 Their principal reason for invasion was to make sure they didn't lose access to a multi hundreds of million hundred million dollar plus industrial port and naval base in Sevastopol.

01:30:06.000 However, they run their gas through Ukraine.

01:30:10.000 They were trying to work a trade deal with Ukraine and the West came in and basically said soft power takeover and forced out Russian interests.

01:30:18.000 Russia invades because I mean, it's a combination of factors.

01:30:23.000 The victory point for Russia in this would have been we control the land bridge and maintain Crimea.

01:30:28.000 But losing in power in Ukraine and Ukraine to NATO, which is seemingly going to happen, is a massive defeat.

01:30:35.000 And it basically shuts down.

01:30:37.000 It puts Europe in deep control of their ability to transport energy into the country.

01:30:41.000 It makes Turkey really, really a pivotal position.

01:30:45.000 Oh yeah, and Turkey's acting up.

01:30:47.000 But this is why they bloop Nord Stream 2. It's about saying to Russia, you're a gas station, shut your mouth and do as you're told.

01:30:53.000 The loss of Syria means that we can offset their gas monopoly by bringing in Middle Eastern gas into Europe, and it's going to dump the price of Gazprom.

01:31:00.000 So we bring in competitive pricing through Syria.

01:31:04.000 We drop the price of natural gas 20%, 30%, 40%.

01:31:06.000 Russia then says our economy is in trouble.

01:31:09.000 That's why they were rejecting this and trying to resist it.

01:31:11.000 With Syria falling and the West being able to get what they want, Russia loses everything.

01:31:16.000 Their economy is going to take a hit.

01:31:18.000 They're already in trouble.

01:31:19.000 This is a component of why they're fighting in the first place.

01:31:22.000 Couldn't they just run the China though?

01:31:24.000 Like strengthen their relationship there?

01:31:26.000 I think they're already doing because they know they're very isolated.

01:31:30.000 But it's more like saying the strong and mighty bear is basically telling China, I will do whatever you say.

01:31:38.000 So, yes, they go to China and it's the BRICS alliance.

01:31:42.000 It's desperation, you know.

01:31:43.000 And China laughs and says, Putin, you are no longer in a position of strength, but don't worry.

01:31:48.000 You sign an unfavorable deal with us and we'll come to your aid.

01:31:51.000 That could be escalation.

01:31:52.000 The question I'm asking then is, what are the moves Putin has?

01:31:55.000 Does he just say, I accept that we have lost our gas interest in Europe.

01:31:59.000 We're going to take a hit on these trades.

01:32:01.000 The West has one control of Ukraine.

01:32:03.000 Ukraine is going NATO. Or will they be like, China and Iran, let's go, baby.

01:32:10.000 I think the second is what's going to happen.

01:32:13.000 I mean, Jamie Dimon does.

01:32:16.000 Yeah, I don't have a particular strong feeling about what they'll decide to do.

01:32:23.000 I do think that nuclear weapons invite...

01:32:29.000 I don't think that Russia wants that.

01:32:31.000 And I don't think China wants that either because if Russia were to be thinking, oh, we've got the support of China, I don't think that that's in China's best interest and I don't think that they want that either.

01:32:42.000 China's got a lot of economic interests that go up in smoke, literally, if there's a nuclear exchange.

01:32:47.000 Alright, we're going to go to Super Chat.

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01:33:02.000 But I'm going to start with the Super Chat that just came in because it's on topic.

01:33:08.000 Sir, it looks like you Google searched this maybe half a time, not even once.

01:33:15.000 Russia's interests—the war is not about one specific point of Ukraine.

01:33:20.000 That's silly.

01:33:21.000 Russia has interests all over the globe, and they've been dwindling.

01:33:25.000 One of the principal components of this has been the Qatar-Turkey pipeline for a long time, with Bashar al-Assad outright saying— Like, this is not innuendo.

01:33:32.000 He literally told the West, you will not build a gas pipeline through Syria because it would damage Russia's sale of energy into Europe.

01:33:41.000 And Russia is our ally.

01:33:42.000 And the West said, then you will be a short-lived government.

01:33:46.000 And all of this played out.

01:33:47.000 This was reported in 2012 in The Guardian.

01:33:50.000 And I believe the initial report that came out, which outlined this, was 2009. With Syria falling and Russia evacuating Tartus, that is a tremendous defeat.

01:34:00.000 Could you imagine what would happen if the U.S. announced we were evacuating our naval bases in, I don't know, Japan or something?

01:34:07.000 We're pulling our troops out of South Korea.

01:34:11.000 I don't know how many troops they have in Tartus.

01:34:14.000 Oh, never mind.

01:34:15.000 But I'm saying we have a substantial amount in South Korea.

01:34:17.000 But imagine if the U.S., we were active in one country and we said, we're evacuating all of our vessels and all of our troops.

01:34:23.000 People would be like, whoa!

01:34:26.000 That's crazy.

01:34:27.000 Why?

01:34:27.000 The U.S. is evacuating?

01:34:28.000 They're losing control of the region.

01:34:30.000 Russia did happen in 2021, right?

01:34:32.000 With which?

01:34:33.000 Afghanistan?

01:34:34.000 Oh, right.

01:34:35.000 Yeah.

01:34:35.000 Sure.

01:34:36.000 The U.S. withdrawal there was a major defeat.

01:34:38.000 A surrender, as it were.

01:34:40.000 Right, Ian?

01:34:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:41.000 They lost a lot.

01:34:42.000 Did Russia leave behind stuff in Tartus?

01:34:44.000 Did they just flee?

01:34:45.000 Did they just rout?

01:34:46.000 I think even their military has got to be smarter than that.

01:34:49.000 What was reported is that the Russian Navy has evacuated Tartus.

01:34:53.000 I wonder what was left behind.

01:34:54.000 Right.

01:34:55.000 To the extent we know, exactly not entirely sure.

01:34:57.000 If stuff was left behind, then they surrendered Tartus.

01:34:59.000 Russia has pulled its support for Syria because they're focused on Ukraine.

01:35:03.000 So by all means, you can make the argument that Russia is crushing Ukraine.

01:35:06.000 It's been three years.

01:35:07.000 And now they're withdrawing forces from Syria and resources to focus on the fight on their border.

01:35:13.000 That is not indicative of winning a larger international conflict.

01:35:16.000 By all means, Ukraine is pulling in women and old men.

01:35:20.000 They're not doing well, but the West is dumping an infinite amount of money into this war that Russia is struggling to maintain.

01:35:26.000 We've got to take a page from history in what the Allies did to the Germans after World War I. They split the shit out of that country and they basically destroyed it and made it pay reparations and wrecked their economy, gave rise to World War II. If we do that to Russia, if we stomp on them and try and smear them out, they will rise up later as a more chaotic evil entity.

01:35:51.000 I got maybe, maybe, but I don't think that's on the table.

01:35:55.000 That I don't see on the table.

01:35:56.000 That's like invasion equals nuclear holocaust.

01:35:58.000 So that, I just think you need a piece, some sort of equitable peace deal.

01:36:02.000 Maybe they lose their Syrian equity, we run the gas line, they get access to the Black Sea through, you know, eastern Ukraine, and then we'll try and find some sort of parity.

01:36:12.000 I think even in a more short-term sense than that, they're going to go right into the hands of China and Iran and those other countries, but mainly China.

01:36:18.000 And that growing partnership, even if the West gets a short-term victory because, aha, the Ukraine war went badly, it's going to be a really bad thing in the West for that to happen.

01:36:27.000 There used to be a really great website called conflictmap.org.

01:36:30.000 I guess it doesn't exist anymore.

01:36:31.000 We used to use it for everything.

01:36:32.000 And it was wild, the amount of active conflict around the world.

01:36:35.000 I think it's important to point out to everybody that war is the natural state of the earth.

01:36:38.000 I'm not saying it's a good thing, but holy crap, you look at these maps and it is everything.

01:36:43.000 Everywhere.

01:36:44.000 This is wild.

01:36:47.000 Yeah.

01:36:48.000 Alright, let's grab some super chips from the top.

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01:37:02.000 Beanie Optional.

01:37:04.000 Have you guys seen the new Grok AI image generator?

01:37:07.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:37:08.000 Wow, dude.

01:37:09.000 I retweeted one of the images that I, it was indiscernible.

01:37:12.000 And people, they'll say in the comments, oh, I could tell it was AI, but that's because in the post it says, can you tell that this was AI? If you didn't put that, if it just posted the image, people would probably, why is he posting that bland image?

01:37:21.000 So I just heard on, I was listening to the All In podcast that Tesla had a breakthrough with connecting GPUs.

01:37:30.000 They had only been able, they thought that it was only possible to connect to like 40,000 of the big NVIDIA GPUs.

01:37:37.000 They reworked the way that they connect them from the ground up and they managed to, and when I say connect, I mean connect and be functioning and thinking the same, like thinking about the same topic all at the same time or working on the same problem all at the same time.

01:37:51.000 Tesla's reworked the way that they connected them, essentially.

01:37:54.000 And they've got 100,000 now.

01:37:56.000 From 40 to 100?

01:37:57.000 From 40 to 100,000 GPUs that are all thinking.

01:37:59.000 And they think they can get it up to 200,000 and possibly up to a million.

01:38:03.000 And these are the new NVIDIA... Because the GPs are getting faster as they're connecting more of them.

01:38:10.000 Exactly.

01:38:10.000 So like I said, these are the new ones.

01:38:11.000 So if they can connect 200 or 500, half a million or a million, like that's going to be, I mean, if general artificial intelligence is on the table, it looks like Tesla is going to be the company that does it.

01:38:26.000 I think you, instead of being what is a general processing unit, graphics processing unit, it'll start to take on the definition of universe.

01:38:33.000 Graphics processing universe.

01:38:35.000 I mean, we're creating universes.

01:38:36.000 This is wild, dude.

01:38:37.000 I don't think the AI thing is very good at all.

01:38:40.000 What'd you get?

01:38:41.000 The images are really, really great, but it can't make everybody.

01:38:45.000 Did it make you?

01:38:46.000 It made me, and it was close.

01:38:51.000 It can't do the hat.

01:38:52.000 Have Tim Pool losing in a game of Magic the Gathering at Ian Crossland.

01:38:56.000 I tried Tim Pool being crushed at Magic the Gathering by Matt Walsh.

01:38:59.000 It didn't work.

01:39:00.000 Oh.

01:39:00.000 What did it do wrong?

01:39:01.000 It made some weird other Matt Walsh, and I tried to define the print.

01:39:04.000 Use his Twitter page.

01:39:06.000 I think Grok understands if you...

01:39:08.000 Oh, okay.

01:39:08.000 That's a good idea.

01:39:08.000 ...losing to at Ian Crossland and Magic.

01:39:12.000 Let's try that.

01:39:15.000 Losing, uh...

01:39:18.000 What's Matt Walsh's Twitter?

01:39:20.000 In a forest.

01:39:21.000 It's Matt Walsh's Twitter.

01:39:22.000 It's Matt Walsh blog?

01:39:23.000 Yeah, Matt Walsh blog, right?

01:39:24.000 I think so.

01:39:28.000 Nope, I got a better one.

01:39:31.000 Here we go.

01:39:33.000 Yeah, Matt Walsh blog.

01:39:34.000 Flanked by treants.

01:39:36.000 No.

01:39:36.000 In a dark green ominous forest.

01:39:40.000 Yeah, and the treants will be playing cards too.

01:39:42.000 Okay, here we go.

01:39:43.000 Let's see if this one works.

01:39:44.000 If it's not good, I'm not going to show it, but if it's good...

01:39:47.000 We gotta know either way.

01:39:48.000 Even if it's bad.

01:39:49.000 Okay, I put make an image of at Timcast and at Matt Walsh blog enjoying anime together.

01:39:55.000 Wait.

01:39:56.000 One of the images failed.

01:39:59.000 Okay, there's a TV. And, uh...

01:40:03.000 Yo.

01:40:07.000 It's a winner.

01:40:07.000 No, it's not.

01:40:09.000 It is not a winner.

01:40:11.000 Well, that kind of looks like you in the upper left.

01:40:13.000 It kind of does.

01:40:14.000 This one gave me hair, and it kind of looks like my profile.

01:40:17.000 This one made me bald, which is more accurate.

01:40:19.000 And this one...

01:40:20.000 I don't know.

01:40:21.000 It makes me look like Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:40:22.000 It doesn't look like Matt Walsh, though.

01:40:24.000 No, it doesn't.

01:40:26.000 Like, who's that guy?

01:40:27.000 What is this all about?

01:40:28.000 Although that is anime.

01:40:29.000 You look good with hair, man.

01:40:30.000 And we are not watching the TV at all.

01:40:35.000 Are you going to pull Elon Musk and get beautiful hair?

01:40:38.000 No.

01:40:38.000 How did he do that anyway?

01:40:40.000 He paid money.

01:40:41.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:40:44.000 Here we go.

01:40:45.000 Kieran the Meat Man says, Tim, the MNCPM is not million, it's the Roman numeral M. Yeah, mil.

01:40:50.000 I didn't say million.

01:40:51.000 Used in finance, MM is million, thousand.

01:40:54.000 It's like milli.

01:40:55.000 M-I-L-L-E. How do you pronounce that?

01:40:58.000 Mille?

01:40:59.000 Mia?

01:41:00.000 I don't know.

01:41:00.000 It depends on what language.

01:41:01.000 The L is ye in Spanish, but it's probably Latin.

01:41:06.000 Mille?

01:41:07.000 Mille?

01:41:08.000 Yeah.

01:41:09.000 Mille.

01:41:10.000 Yeah.

01:41:11.000 I don't know if that's Latin.

01:41:12.000 I watch those videos of ancient people speaking like Old Latin with the accent.

01:41:19.000 Yep.

01:41:20.000 But M-I-L-L-E. So I certainly did not say cost per million.

01:41:25.000 Let's see.

01:41:26.000 Shout out to Bill Tong, Baron.

01:41:27.000 All right.

01:41:30.000 Big Cheese says the devil was handing out snow cones.

01:41:32.000 Anna Kasparian was on Glenn Beck's show.

01:41:35.000 She was.

01:41:36.000 It was good.

01:41:37.000 Yes, I watched it.

01:41:38.000 That's cool.

01:41:38.000 When I was down there at the Blaze, they asked me if I had her contact info.

01:41:42.000 I'm glad they got in touch.

01:41:44.000 Lurge685 says, Daniel Penny is celebrating at a bar in NYC and people are buying him drinks.

01:41:48.000 We are so back.

01:41:49.000 Indeed!

01:41:50.000 No easy, Danny.

01:41:51.000 What do you think he should do?

01:41:52.000 He's got to be careful, though, because there are armed hitmen running around New York City.

01:41:55.000 People know this.

01:41:56.000 He needs to leave the city immediately.

01:41:58.000 He's not from New York, was he?

01:42:00.000 He was a student there, right?

01:42:01.000 I think so, yeah.

01:42:03.000 All right.

01:42:03.000 Well, have we here?

01:42:05.000 All right.

01:42:06.000 Based African says, this just goes to show that smart criminals are the most dangerous.

01:42:11.000 The saying is that there are no smart criminals, but I'm not sure if I believe that.

01:42:14.000 No, the reality is that smart ones don't get caught.

01:42:17.000 Or they form governments.

01:42:19.000 People always say, like, how come criminals are so dumb?

01:42:21.000 You always hear these ridiculous stories like the dude...

01:42:24.000 Kept his backpack with his manifesto and all the evidence and the weapon on himself and was traveling around looking, not changing his appearance.

01:42:29.000 Like, what is this?

01:42:30.000 If that's the guy, it's like he wanted to get caught and people to read his stuff.

01:42:35.000 Self-sacrifice kind of thing.

01:42:36.000 I think he did, yeah.

01:42:38.000 Definitely.

01:42:40.000 Alright, the Sig P says, Trump should pardon him on a slow news day and make the left try and find a way to spin that into a bad for the lulls.

01:42:48.000 I don't know about pardoning a violent murderer like that, though.

01:42:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:53.000 Philosopher Stone says, would you please shout out my Twitch channel?

01:42:55.000 Why?

01:42:55.000 Twitch sucks, but sure.

01:42:57.000 The Stone Philosopher, Leo.

01:42:59.000 I'm a based furry who is bad enough at video games to be funny, but not so bad that it's frustrating.

01:43:05.000 Well, like I said, you know, I don't agree with it, but as long as you're telling people to do the correct political things, I don't know that I agree with the furry stuff, but...

01:43:13.000 Check out the bizarre new card game.

01:43:15.000 What is that?

01:43:16.000 It's a furry card game?

01:43:17.000 No, it's just a cool card game.

01:43:18.000 I believe that overwhelmingly furries are suffering from a psychological identity disorder based on watching anthropomorphized animals on TV. Yeah, probably.

01:43:26.000 It's weird, man.

01:43:27.000 Well, it's Looney Tunes and stuff.

01:43:29.000 The kids were raised by TV. It doesn't affect everybody this way, but some people...

01:43:33.000 For hundreds of thousands of years, humans were only raised around other humans and only socialized with the adults around them.

01:43:41.000 That's why there's that viral video of the children who sound like they're adults from the 50s.

01:43:45.000 And everyone's like, why do these kids sound so smart?

01:43:47.000 Because they were only learning from adults.

01:43:50.000 Now, you've got children's program, which is just deranged.

01:43:55.000 I despise these people.

01:43:57.000 I don't know, man.

01:44:00.000 It's like being raised...

01:44:01.000 You see the occasional kid raised by wolves throughout history, and this is like being raised by cartoon wolves.

01:44:06.000 Oh, we are in serious trouble.

01:44:08.000 It's not just...

01:44:08.000 These conservatives have got to understand, man.

01:44:11.000 It's not just the schools.

01:44:12.000 It's these YouTube children's channels.

01:44:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:14.000 I saw one where it's this...

01:44:17.000 It's just some middle-aged fat guy, and it looks like normal kids' content.

01:44:21.000 He's not a pervert or anything like that, but he is going...

01:44:25.000 He's like...

01:44:28.000 And the kids watch it and laugh.

01:44:30.000 And so they're like, see, it's good.

01:44:31.000 It's like Goo Goo Gaga.

01:44:32.000 And I'm like, Goo Goo Gaga-ing your babies gives them speech disorders.

01:44:36.000 I'm not making that up.

01:44:37.000 So if you look at kids who used to grow up, and they'd see the parents talking like this, darling, please.

01:44:43.000 And I'm kidding with the North Atlantic accent.

01:44:45.000 But, you know, seeing their parents, they would emulate that and become that.

01:44:48.000 Now that we've made children's content, which is goofy noises and insanity, children are growing up and emulating that.

01:44:54.000 Thus, you end up with furries, people with an identity disorder.

01:44:56.000 They want to dress up like cartoon animals.

01:44:59.000 Bugs Bunny was very articulate.

01:45:01.000 He was eloquent.

01:45:02.000 And so a child watching that and identifying with it, it's like imprinting on it.

01:45:08.000 Like a duck that, you know, when the chicken hatches, it sees you and thinks you're the parent or whatever.

01:45:12.000 Yeah, we don't need that kind of stuff.

01:45:14.000 It's frying people's brains.

01:45:16.000 Just talk to your kids like they're normal.

01:45:18.000 That's right.

01:45:19.000 That's right.

01:45:21.000 All right.

01:45:22.000 What do we have?

01:45:23.000 Corey Anderson says, Phil, that shirt is amazing.

01:45:25.000 Please sell them.

01:45:28.000 All right.

01:45:29.000 Where did you get that shirt?

01:45:30.000 I made it.

01:45:31.000 I had it made.

01:45:32.000 I forget the guy's name.

01:45:34.000 The Twitter user had made the art, and I grabbed it from him.

01:45:38.000 I was like, oh, that'll look good in a shirt.

01:45:40.000 I wore it in the No Tomorrow video, too.

01:45:46.000 Let's go.

01:45:48.000 David Manning says, took a huge step and used all my savings, but got the machines to start manufacturing and making my rubber PVC patches in Missouri instead of China.

01:45:56.000 Overseas, like everyone else, made in America again.

01:45:59.000 Poppins patches.

01:46:00.000 Good stuff.

01:46:01.000 Based.

01:46:03.000 Noldia says, can you have on Rachel Pickrell Hawkins?

01:46:06.000 She's a mom from Aurora, Colorado, who was arrested for trying to protect her children after abuse.

01:46:11.000 Interesting.

01:46:11.000 Haven't heard about it.

01:46:13.000 We will look into it.

01:46:15.000 Jack Mack says, we are immersed in propaganda, gaslighting, and political and social discord every single day.

01:46:21.000 You know what they say?

01:46:22.000 Ignorance is bliss, sadly.

01:46:24.000 This is a tragedy all around, and there's a lot to learn from it.

01:46:27.000 Yep.

01:46:29.000 Indeed.

01:46:30.000 Jack Mack also says, the kid shot someone in the back.

01:46:33.000 Anyone who thinks that he's heroic is sick in the head.

01:46:35.000 He's a coward.

01:46:36.000 I mean, it's, it's, it's, look.

01:46:41.000 Imagine you had a functioning, normal society with people who had good morals.

01:46:44.000 You wouldn't need this.

01:46:46.000 You wouldn't be worried about CEOs screwing people over because they would have scribbles.

01:46:49.000 And there would be shame.

01:46:51.000 How do you stop a CEO from a big company screwing people over?

01:46:54.000 Shame.

01:46:55.000 Everybody knows who the guy is and he can't go to a grocery store without getting booed.

01:46:58.000 And then he's going to be like, I can't do this.

01:47:00.000 We can't do this.

01:47:02.000 The problem is large urban environments where no one knows who anybody is and they have no neighbors.

01:47:08.000 People are free to live in anonymity and obscurity and do whatever they want even if it's evil.

01:47:13.000 Hence...

01:47:14.000 A cop can arrest an innocent person, and no, it doesn't matter, I don't live here.

01:47:18.000 Like the Attilus Gym thing.

01:47:19.000 When the local cops would not arrest the Attilus Gym owners over COVID lockdown, the city brought in cops from another city over who said, don't know, don't care, I don't live here.

01:47:28.000 That's the problem.

01:47:31.000 All right.

01:47:31.000 Kevin Spears says, Ian should be able to get a job at MSNBC. You know, if Elon buys MSNBC... I'll headline.

01:47:39.000 The Ian Crossland Hour.

01:47:41.000 Yeah.

01:47:41.000 It'll be a great show.

01:47:43.000 Would you want it to be primetime?

01:47:44.000 And Rachel Maddow's under contract.

01:47:45.000 No, 7 p.m.

01:47:46.000 It'd be 7 to 8, so I wouldn't overlap with this show.

01:47:48.000 But Rachel Maddow's under contract, so you should be on her show with her the whole time.

01:47:51.000 Oh, I'd love to do reoccurring guests on Rachel Maddow.

01:47:53.000 No, no, no.

01:47:54.000 Co-host.

01:47:54.000 That'd be so good.

01:47:55.000 I'd sit on her left, the TV's right.

01:47:58.000 And then whatever she says, you are allowed to interject.

01:48:01.000 I'll keep you balanced, Rachel.

01:48:04.000 It is not anarchy.

01:48:20.000 It's fanatical idealism.

01:48:22.000 He's trying to create the world he wants by force.

01:48:26.000 Sauravius says, authority is what people defer to, one as maker of decision.

01:48:32.000 Authority depends on people believing in one, power as ability to enforce authority, using up to and including lethal force.

01:48:41.000 The Emperor's Champion said attempted anarchy would likely result in what Haiti is today.

01:48:46.000 Disagree.

01:48:47.000 If you live, I don't know, in like the Yukon territory and there is nothing to eat but lichen and you're struggling and you are with 30 other people, anarchy could work relatively fine in small communities where everybody is in a small tribe and genuinely just agrees with the people anarchy could work relatively fine in small communities where everybody is in a small tribe and genuinely But it doesn't work in large scale environments.

01:49:10.000 It's impossible because you can't know everybody.

01:49:13.000 What is it they say after like 150 people is when everything breaks down?

01:49:16.000 Yeah.

01:49:17.000 So then you're like, I don't know who you are, what you do.

01:49:19.000 What makes you think you know better than me?

01:49:21.000 And they're like, what are you talking about?

01:49:22.000 I have hunted reindeer and whatever.

01:49:24.000 We call them jingle horses, by the way.

01:49:26.000 But I have hunted them for generations.

01:49:27.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

01:49:28.000 Well, I don't know you and I don't trust you and I'm not going to listen to what you have to say.

01:49:31.000 And then things break down.

01:49:32.000 Yeah, Genghis Khan's interesting, his young life, because they were tribal.

01:49:36.000 I don't know if they were anarchists, but they would hunt, and his older brother...

01:49:39.000 Genghis Khan was like the monarch.

01:49:41.000 Well, when he was a kid, Temujin, he and his brothers would go hunt, and his eldest brother would take most of the meat for himself, because he was like, I did most of the work.

01:49:48.000 And they were like, well, that's not going to fly, so they assassinated their own brother.

01:49:51.000 The brothers got together and killed the guy, because he kept taking food from the family.

01:49:54.000 He wouldn't give equal shares.

01:49:58.000 Very learning lessons from Genghis Khan.

01:49:59.000 Anarchy I don't believe in because even in small tribes, the chieftain, and it's because they have the expertise you believe in it.

01:50:06.000 And you could argue that, I mean, that's the authority that people vest power in this person.

01:50:11.000 So like real anarchist communes don't really work or exist.

01:50:17.000 I just don't believe it.

01:50:17.000 I think it's silly.

01:50:18.000 But the idea of one guy deciding to kill another person to enact their worldview is certainly not anarchy.

01:50:23.000 No.

01:50:25.000 Yeah.

01:50:27.000 That's narcissism.

01:50:28.000 It's violent authoritarianism.

01:50:30.000 It's like, my worldview is the correct worldview, therefore you must adhere to what I demand of you.

01:50:37.000 So, you know.

01:50:38.000 All right, let's go.

01:50:40.000 Desert Rebel says, if anyone has angst over the healthcare industry, then you should be directing 90% of your ire at politicians who passed the Affordable Care Act.

01:50:47.000 That over-regulated the industry and blew up costs.

01:50:49.000 I remember when they launched the health marketplace website, and then they told me if I didn't get healthcare, which I couldn't afford, my taxes would be higher.

01:50:58.000 And so I'm like, okay.

01:50:59.000 So, like, I have a job, and I'm getting, like, 200 bucks a week working 40 hours.

01:51:04.000 It sucks.

01:51:05.000 Yeah.

01:51:06.000 I was getting like $270.

01:51:07.000 I was making $10 an hour.

01:51:09.000 Then they say like, if you don't get this, we're going to fine you.

01:51:14.000 It's like 1%, 2%, then 3%.

01:51:15.000 And I'm like, so I'm going to lose.

01:51:17.000 My refund gets smaller.

01:51:18.000 I get less and less money.

01:51:20.000 But I can't afford healthcare.

01:51:21.000 And so I went to look at the website.

01:51:22.000 It didn't work.

01:51:23.000 And I struggled to figure out how to get healthcare.

01:51:25.000 I was like, this thing is broken and they're threatening me.

01:51:27.000 It's wild.

01:51:29.000 Terrible.

01:51:29.000 Yeah, that was a mess.

01:51:32.000 Let's go!

01:51:33.000 BATM Media says, if you have the power to help someone and you elect not to, especially for something as capricious as profitability, you are effectively killing them.

01:51:42.000 Disagreed.

01:51:42.000 I'm sorry.

01:51:43.000 Capricious as profitability.

01:51:44.000 Like I said the other day, if I understand correctly, not that I'm standing health insurance companies, but their margin is something like 2% or 3%.

01:51:53.000 They're constantly paying out for people.

01:51:56.000 Yeah, because think about how much they have to pay the hospital.

01:51:58.000 Yeah.

01:51:59.000 I don't know if I made this point earlier, but I think when you really break down the problem in our healthcare system, it's not that the insurance companies are the problem.

01:52:05.000 It's that the hospitals are charging like $100,000, $200,000.

01:52:09.000 How's the insurance company supposed to pay that with their margins?

01:52:11.000 So I think it really boils back from the beginning.

01:52:14.000 That's the root of the problem, I would argue.

01:52:17.000 And that's exactly why I said the problem is the fact that there's no marketplace.

01:52:20.000 The market is what will drive costs down.

01:52:24.000 I mean, I know that it's not popular to be like, look, man, the dude's making a lot of money, but...

01:52:32.000 The company itself, the margin isn't huge.

01:52:35.000 People don't care about margin at all.

01:52:37.000 The only thing they see is the gross number that they're talking about.

01:52:43.000 It's a billion-dollar company.

01:52:44.000 There was some guy on Twitter the other day that was complaining about it, and they called the guy a billionaire CEO. And it's like, look, the only people that are billionaire CEOs are people...

01:52:54.000 That invent something or start the company and own the company.

01:52:58.000 Because to get to billionaire, you have to own the whole company.

01:53:01.000 There are no CEOs of health insurance companies that are billionaires.

01:53:05.000 I looked up the guys, looked up the info on the guy, and he makes like, he's worth like $40 million.

01:53:11.000 He makes like $10 million a year.

01:53:12.000 Which is a ton of money, I understand.

01:53:14.000 But there's a whole world of difference between making $10 million a year and being worth $40 million and being an effing billionaire.

01:53:23.000 Look up the Kelsey podcast.

01:53:26.000 Didn't they sign like a $100 million deal for three years?

01:53:29.000 I've never even heard of that.

01:53:30.000 I just thought it was funny.

01:53:31.000 It's like the largest healthcare provider, healthcare being like 20% of the economy.

01:53:36.000 Yeah, it was over $100 million.

01:53:38.000 Yeah, he's getting a $10 million a year salary.

01:53:40.000 And I'm like, that is a lot of money, but the media industry makes so much more.

01:53:46.000 And it's like the fact that there were so many people that are saying that the healthcare industry is the same as the pharmaceutical industry.

01:53:55.000 They're not.

01:53:56.000 Or the healthcare insurance industry is the same thing as the pharmaceutical industry.

01:54:00.000 They're not.

01:54:01.000 Pharmaceuticals are the ones ripping off, oftentimes, the healthcare insurance companies.

01:54:05.000 And they're talking about, you know, oh, he's a billionaire CEO. He's not.

01:54:09.000 There are people that are motivated by anger and they're completely ignorant about the realities of the situation that they're talking about, but they're pissed off because they don't have...

01:54:20.000 Someone they know couldn't get coverage or whatever.

01:54:22.000 And I totally understand why they would be mad about that.

01:54:25.000 But it doesn't change the fact that you're ignorant about what's going on.

01:54:29.000 The context of the health insurance industry and why the person didn't get coverage and stuff.

01:54:35.000 And to sit there and be like, it's good they killed this guy when you're speaking from a position of ignorance is totally wrong.

01:54:41.000 It's almost like it's a complicated system and just shooting one guy is not going to fix it, right?

01:54:45.000 You think?

01:54:46.000 All it did was make sure we can't know who the leadership teams are.

01:54:50.000 They've obfuscated who the people are at the top, and they've hired massive security.

01:54:54.000 They're going to demand higher pay because they're going to say it's a risky job and people are threatening us, so I want more money for this job, and they're going to drive up premiums to cover the cost of CEO demand because the companies can't exist without CEOs.

01:55:04.000 I want to say this.

01:55:06.000 Tulsa King is a great show.

01:55:08.000 But the one thing that I cannot stand about Tulsa King is how Sylvester Stallone and his crew snap their fingers and start businesses.

01:55:17.000 I'm like, no, I reject this.

01:55:19.000 People don't understand what managerial power is.

01:55:23.000 And I've long, long thought about...

01:55:26.000 I remember I was hanging out in New York with some friends, and we were skating, and I just look up at this skyscraper, and I thought to myself, the managerial power that is required to make that building is insane.

01:55:38.000 People don't get it.

01:55:39.000 I'm talking about you need someone to plan the building, someone to plan the finances, you need someone to plan the construction, labor, the day-to-day operations.

01:55:47.000 It is an immense amount of organization managerial power.

01:55:51.000 So I'm watching Tulsa King and they're just like, you know, here's what we should do.

01:55:54.000 We should expand our business and move it to a bigger location and add a bunch of stuff to it.

01:55:58.000 And they're like, yes.

01:55:59.000 And then it's like the next episode they have it.

01:56:00.000 And I'm like, no.

01:56:03.000 Steve Jobs, there's a cool video going around of him talking about management, and he's like, when we started at Apple, we just were like, let's just hire management.

01:56:11.000 So they hired a bunch of professional managers, and they knew how to manage, but they were terrible at everything else, and they were dysfunctional.

01:56:18.000 And he said, the best managers are the ones that have no interest in managing, but they're so good at what they do that they have to in order to make it work.

01:56:27.000 The crazy thing is that dude who got arrested, Luigi Mangione, now has 230,000 followers on X. He had a couple hundred, then people found his account, now they're following him.

01:56:38.000 And one of his last tweets was reposting a Huberman podcast.

01:56:44.000 An intellectual.

01:56:46.000 Sure, I guess.

01:56:47.000 I don't know.

01:56:48.000 Let's go!

01:56:49.000 Intellectual doesn't mean you're smart.

01:56:50.000 Hope says, Investor capitalism is the real evil.

01:56:53.000 Private companies don't have to make their stock go up in value every year to be successful.

01:56:57.000 Blame Wall Street.

01:56:58.000 I do think there's a lot of problems with that.

01:57:01.000 The idea is that the companies, if they need to make money to expand the business, they can seek funds from the public.

01:57:07.000 That's what it's supposed to be.

01:57:08.000 But then you just get, like, you know, the idea that someone makes day traders, I don't like these people.

01:57:15.000 What value do they bring to the system other than siphoning off resources through trade?

01:57:20.000 And now they have bots that do it.

01:57:21.000 I think it's all bad.

01:57:23.000 I think it's very concerning that most of our economy these days, especially since 2008, but also since COVID even more, is not even real.

01:57:30.000 I forget.

01:57:31.000 I think Patrick Bet-David always brings up 25% of companies now are shell companies.

01:57:36.000 They're not real.

01:57:36.000 They just survive off of debt.

01:57:38.000 I mean, what's being generated in our economy?

01:57:40.000 And this is why I would not be surprised if there's a very big recession and they're going to blame Trump for it, but sometime next year, because they keep saying, oh, the economy's doing great.

01:57:48.000 The stock market's going up and up.

01:57:49.000 Where?

01:57:50.000 Based on what?

01:57:51.000 You know?

01:57:51.000 At some point, that bubble's gonna burst, I think.

01:57:54.000 So they're protesting in New York now.

01:57:55.000 Oh, yeah?

01:57:56.000 But it's like people just walking around.

01:57:58.000 So the crowd's pretty good.

01:58:00.000 There's hundreds.

01:58:01.000 New York is not known for riots.

01:58:04.000 New York, it's cold, it's wet, and people really, when fights break out with cops, they usually just push each other and then the cops arrest them and that's about it.

01:58:12.000 I've only ever seen a few instances of very serious violence.

01:58:15.000 A cop was fighting with a protester and bashed his head into a glass door and shattered the glass.

01:58:19.000 That was pretty wild.

01:58:20.000 And I've seen protesters shove cops.

01:58:22.000 But in California, that's where it gets crazy.

01:58:25.000 I think, too, it's more spread out, so there's more, like, room to cause chaos.

01:58:29.000 In California?

01:58:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:30.000 The streets are wider, the buildings are bigger.

01:58:32.000 And they'll run in random directions, and then, like, they'll, yeah.

01:58:35.000 So in New York, it's, like, the police flank them, because it's all the grid.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 And the cops literally just say, like, hey, they'll surround a wide area and then slowly move the cops in until the protesters are trapped on one block.

01:58:46.000 The protesters will all march down one street.

01:58:48.000 The cops will then line up vehicles and cops at the end of that street.

01:58:51.000 The protesters get to it, turn around, the cops are there.

01:58:54.000 Then the cops slowly move in, and then they arrest everybody.

01:58:57.000 Also, could you imagine trying to loot the store of, like, some Italian bodega owner in New York?

01:59:01.000 That's not going to go well.

01:59:02.000 Well, they do it all the time.

01:59:04.000 And the guy was—the guy—that bodega owner was about to get stabbed, and then he grabbed the knife and stabbed the other guy, and they arrested him for it.

01:59:11.000 Yeah, I know.

01:59:12.000 So, I mean, New York ain't doing too well.

01:59:16.000 But I'll tell you a quick funny story.

01:59:18.000 I was in one of these, I call them kettlings, in New York during a protest.

01:59:22.000 And the cops created basically this square.

01:59:25.000 And so there was a bodega on the right side.

01:59:28.000 And so when the cops basically made this kettle with orange netting, meaning you're all about to get arrested...

01:59:36.000 A bunch of the protesters try to bolt into this bodega.

01:59:39.000 And I go with them.

01:59:40.000 I'm like, obviously, if you stand in the street, they're going to wrap you up and you're going on a wagon.

01:59:45.000 And so I jumped into the bodega with the group.

01:59:47.000 The group, being a bunch of morons, tried to exit out the other side door.

01:59:52.000 So there was a side door, the orange netting, and then another door.

01:59:57.000 What I did was as soon as I got in, I calmly and slowly walked to the back and started perusing their fine choice of ice creams and just looked around at the ice cream.

02:00:04.000 The cops opened the door and grabbed the protesters and arrested them all while I sat there looking at the ice creams and then turned around and went, oh, whoa, what's going on?

02:00:11.000 Epic bluff skill, dude.

02:00:12.000 And then the cops left.

02:00:13.000 Nice job.

02:00:14.000 And then I went up and I got a strawberry shortcake ice cream.

02:00:17.000 Those are great.

02:00:18.000 Strawberry shortcakes.

02:00:19.000 Yeah, but I'm like, dude, if you're with the crowd, like, the cops are arresting everybody here.

02:00:23.000 When there was like five protesters trying to run through the bodega, the cops went to the other side and then just grabbed them all.

02:00:29.000 And they were like, oh, and they tried to run to the other side.

02:00:30.000 And I just went to the back of the store.

02:00:32.000 That would get you out of hot water in a D&D campaign, too.

02:00:35.000 I was like, don't look at me.

02:00:36.000 I'm just some dude who was buying ice cream.

02:00:37.000 I don't even know what's going on.

02:00:38.000 For fine daggers.

02:00:39.000 Well, there was a problem in New York where— Using fine steel.

02:00:41.000 When they did this, they did one of these kettles in the early days of Occupy, and some middle-aged bald dude in a suit walked out with an orange Fanta.

02:00:48.000 And when he walked out of the door, the netting was around— The door of the bodega.

02:00:53.000 And he looks around and he's like, what's going on?

02:00:54.000 And the cops are like, everybody, you're all under arrest.

02:00:56.000 And he's like, he walked with a cop and he was like, I'm just taking off work.

02:01:00.000 I was buying a drink.

02:01:01.000 And they were like, shut your mouth, you're under arrest.

02:01:03.000 And he got arrested.

02:01:04.000 And he ended up getting, like, he had to call his work and be like, I was going to get a drink and they arrested me because I was standing there.

02:01:10.000 It's just insane.

02:01:11.000 And he was at City Hall screaming atop of his lungs, furious.

02:01:14.000 It was kind of funny.

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