Ben Shapiro and Andrew Schultz agree to debate, but who will be the moderator? Plus, an earthquake that struck near Trump's golf resort, a solar eclipse, and more. Guests: John Nolte, editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, joins us to talk about it all.
00:01:12.000So I really want to talk about this issue.
00:01:15.000I think it's interesting why Candace and Ben are debating, and I don't know, maybe having a discussion on it may actually make me not a good moderator for the debate, considering we're gonna have a conversation Friday before it could potentially even happen.
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00:04:32.000Alright, let's just, uh... You know, we were originally gonna talk about the earthquake, but this is fun, and the conversation, before the cameras even turned on, got pretty good, so I was like, let's just talk about Candace, Ben Shapiro, Israel, antisemitism, and what this whole debate's about.
00:04:47.000You got this clip from Andrew Schultz.
00:04:50.000Anomaly tweets, Andrew Schultz realizes Ben Shapiro is only good at debating college liberals, and can't win debates against serious competition.
00:04:58.000I will play the clip for you now, and you can hear what he had to say.
00:05:42.000Uh, I believe Ben went on to say, I am now signing off- Oh, okay, okay.
00:05:47.000There's a little bit more on the drama before we get into it.
00:05:50.000Candace says, I'm sure you can appreciate why I prefer to keep this off the Daily Wire platform, as well as the true reason why we were never able to make any discussion happen.
00:05:57.000Let's choose a neutral, trustworthy platform.
00:06:01.000To which Ben Shapiro responds, Candace, I can see why you'd want to hide behind a moderator, particularly one who said we should rename our company the Daily Jewish Wire just yesterday.
00:06:18.000As to the true reason you didn't respond to my offer to sit with you and discuss these issues publicly or privately back in February, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
00:06:26.000He then said, I am now signing off for Shabbat.
00:06:29.000I plan to be in Nashville for this conversation on Monday.
00:06:32.000So, this all starts with, of course, Andrew Schultz saying Ben Shapiro can't debate.
00:06:37.000I don't agree with Schultz on this one.
00:06:53.000He has conversations and debates with tons of people all the time.
00:06:57.000I don't... I'm not saying he's the greatest debater in the world, but the idea that he's only ever successful against college liberals, I disagree with.
00:07:04.000But I don't know what you guys... if you guys want to jump in and we'll just...
00:07:07.000I think he would do great in the debate on Israel because he's right.
00:07:12.000I think that would help him enormously is that his position on it is the right position.
00:07:50.000Hamas is morally responsible because they started the war.
00:07:54.000So that gives, in my opinion, he's correct on the debate and I don't see how someone can morally say that what Israel is doing is wrong because what they're doing needs to be done or more people are going to die in the future.
00:08:13.000How did the World Central Kitchen thing happen?
00:08:15.000How do you accidentally target three separate vehicles in different areas and kill a bunch of aid workers?
00:08:19.000That I don't know, but if you start a war, which is what Hamas did, Innocent people are going to die.
00:08:27.000I don't think for a second that Israel targeted innocent people.
00:08:47.000The upside is they don't get the food and water to the people they're trying to exterminate.
00:08:51.000But if they kill those people, I mean, there's all kinds of stuff going in there to help the people in Gaza, to help the civilians, we hope.
00:08:59.000So knocking out 12 aid workers is not going to make a huge difference in what's going in there.
00:09:04.000All it's going to do is what's happened to Israel, what we all know was going to happen to Israel, which is Biden turned against them and public opinion turned against them.
00:09:12.000There's no upside to killing those aid workers.
00:09:14.000One of the thoughts I had while you were explaining that is that because Hamas started the war, Israel has the right to kill civilians.
00:09:24.000So I disagree because if a country were to invade my borders and start a war and then I go total war on them and start bombing their cities and killing them, I don't have the right to blame them for me killing all those civilians.
00:10:22.000I mean if they hide among civilians plus you gotta get out there like I'm pretty sure these are public facing people who get like one guy went on TV.
00:10:29.000Plus you have to take away their ability to wage war again and that's what they're doing going into Gaza because it's not you know it's not we don't have hospitals we have hospitals built on top.
00:10:56.000I thought that it is important to remove the Nazism from the Nazis so you have normal people again, basically.
00:11:01.000So killing the individuals isn't always the way to get rid of an ideology.
00:11:04.000And my concern with trying to eradicate Hamas is the blowback.
00:11:07.000They're killing a lot of innocent people that will then grow up to become even worse terrorizers of the system than the current ones is my fear.
00:11:14.000And then that will leave Israel no more justification other than to say, we need to eradicate everyone there because otherwise it will never stop.
00:11:21.000And that's like the slippery slope I see in the future I want to avoid.
00:11:25.000Well, I think he's underselling it because it's not only that they start this war, but they started the war and then refused to fight it.
00:11:31.000They attacked and then hid among the civilian population.
00:11:33.000And as far as the blowback, if this organization that is the leadership already says, we're committed to wiping you off the face of the earth, like the idea that like, oh, well, just imagine what happens if you make them angry.
00:11:47.000So yeah, you do have a problem, but the fact is, right now they control the education system.
00:11:52.000Right now they're breeding or trying to raise these kids into the next generation of soldiers to fight the Israelis.
00:11:59.000So, like, you have to get rid of that.
00:12:02.000And like, you know, the Nazi example, we did do policies of, like, denazification.
00:12:06.000You had to take that stuff out of the education stuff.
00:12:08.000A lot of stuff that we would consider very anti-American was done in Europe, where they banned being in Nazi parties and denying the Holocaust and all that, because that's how extreme that rooted ideology was in Europe.
00:12:51.000Hamas is savages and they need to be exterminated because if you don't exterminate them, it's going to happen again.
00:12:57.000So you're saying the two-party solution?
00:12:59.000Was that when you said the vision I'm looking for, is that like a two-party solution?
00:13:02.000No, when you say... Like the two-state solution?
00:13:04.000Two-state solution, that's what I mean.
00:13:05.000No, not the two-state solution, but the idea that, oh, we got to back off, or do a ceasefire, or worrying about, or what you said about worrying about it creating hate.
00:15:08.000And then whatever, they can do whatever they want.
00:15:10.000And I said, okay, what would happen if Israel said, we're tearing the walls down, Palestinians have free reign to move in and around Israel, you're not all welcome?
00:15:19.000And I've never gotten a straight answer because I think even the people who are who are critical of Israel or even as I would call it Israel deranged understand what happens if Israel takes the walls down and says all of Gaza please feel free to you get October 7th.
00:15:33.000Well there were a lot of a lot of the like I remember the October 7th there were a lot of the workers who had passes to work in Israel were among those who were Committing the atrocities on that day, so they had you know already had access to Israel, and they were coming in to do that It's kind of crazy.
00:15:51.000I don't think that this whatever this is There's no easy answer my position is typically the America first one of just like I don't know about the moral questions here, man I don't know why we're involved And I know, I understand Ben Shapiro's argument about a U.S.
00:16:05.000ally in the region, the risks of rapid escalation if Israel goes, what do they call it, the Samson option?
00:17:20.000So what I've heard is that the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, which was Yasser Arafat's Palestinian government in the late 1900s or 1990s, you know, up to relatively recently, that I heard that I think the Israelis were involved with breaking them apart because they controlled the West Bank and Gaza, and it made it look like they're really going to get a two-state solution.
00:17:39.000We want the territory, so let's create a new government.
00:17:41.000We'll call it Hamas that can rule over in Gaza while the PLO can have the West Bank.
00:17:46.000Now we have two disparate factions fighting each other, easy pickings, and they're villains so that when they attack us we can use it as a false flag.
00:17:53.000You know, if someone stole my land, Right.
00:17:58.000If someone came in and wiped out my family and stole my land, I would not sentence my descendants to generations of hate and despair and poverty.
00:18:15.000But what they have done, what Hamas has done to the Gazans and what Arafat did was sentence these people Innocent people to generations of poverty and hate and vengeance and he destroyed their lives and Hamas is destroying their lives and it doesn't matter what happened in the past just move on.
00:18:43.000My point is, I talk about this because Native Americans, for instance, in the United States, they're never going to reconquer the United States.
00:19:09.000Federal government said, You're damn right, we have jurisdiction here, because the federal government's not going to give up jurisdiction if they can keep it.
00:19:48.000On the Native American thing, I think it's important to question... It wasn't a monolith.
00:19:53.000What happened to Native Americans wasn't... I wouldn't say European colonists arriving into North America is 100% the cause of all strife and all calamity for all Native Americans.
00:20:08.000So I wouldn't necessarily say it's indefensible.
00:20:11.000I'm like, certainly there are many instances where, you know, Native Americans went and killed a bunch of colonists for no reason and things like that had happened.
00:20:28.000The history of humanity has been conquest, I think, through moral philosophy, but mostly through abundance.
00:20:34.000Through technological advancement, we've come to the point where we're like, okay, now we don't really need to be stealing land from each other because we're all pretty much too fat as it is.
00:20:44.000Not everyone in the world, but particularly in the United States and in the developed world, we got so much resources that these things are starting to chill out.
00:20:52.000Well, obesity is now a condition of poverty.
00:21:04.000So if you've got a lion that's gonna go fight a gazelle or something, there's a risk of death in doing that, but it needs to, it needs to survive.
00:21:12.000When you take these animals and put them in captivity and keep them well-fed, there still is instinct, so it does happen, but you'll see these videos where it's like a lion sitting and snuggling with a chicken or something, because there's no reason to fight.
00:22:29.000I think there is a good argument for, find where you can thrive, make money, have a family, and then win financially, and let the people who have the bad ideas fail, and then over time you end up winning.
00:22:41.000But many people have said, no, you can't give up these cities to the far left.
00:22:43.000So there is an interesting conundrum in, would you actually give up your land if someone came to take it from you?
00:22:50.000Versus, I see your point, it's been, what, 70-something years?
00:22:55.000And at this point, maybe your best opportunity is build success and wealth.
00:22:59.000But if my dad was like, you know, your grandma's house, my whole life since I was a kid, if he was like, that guy that lives there, he stole that from your grandma 35 years, 47 years ago, I'd be so pissed.
00:23:59.000All of these nations have made a pact that they weren't going to take them as citizens because they want a perpetual refugee population there, a stateless group of people, because they want them to go into Israel.
00:24:11.000They could take these people and I know like there have been problems when you import a mass of them that they don't think the government's radical enough.
00:24:17.000This happened like where they try to assassinate the king of Jordan.
00:24:20.000But the fact of the matter is they were citizens of Jordan.
00:24:24.000Like there was no Palestine that Israel took over and they were citizens of Egypt.
00:24:28.000But like, the plan, and all the Arab states are basically aligned on this, is to keep them there, have them be stateless people, because eventually, like, in my opinion, it will work.
00:24:37.000Like, I'm actually pretty doomer on, like, the future of Israel because public pressure's already turning against them.
00:26:13.000I don't think so necessarily in America.
00:26:15.000One of the things I think about right of return, because we're talking about like repopulation going, is like you were saying earlier, John, I kind of agree with you, both you and Tim, that just because my parents owned a house, I'm born, I don't have a right to that house.
00:27:19.000You've got the pro-Israel side saying that's not true, and the pro-Palestine saying, pro-Palestine says it's our land, we can prove it.
00:27:25.000Pro-Israel side says no, it's not, we can prove it.
00:27:27.000And then the United States is stupid, in my opinion, for being involved in a dispute that has no, like, you're not, you can't solve.
00:27:35.000I think that trying to build Israel there, because that's the place that they were 2,000 years ago, is like the Palestinians saying, I want my house back.
00:27:44.000My point is, you are operating under the assertion it actually was their land, which is disputed by the opposing faction.
00:27:53.000I am not Israel or Palestine, I am the United States, and I say, I don't see why we're involved in their dispute over this.
00:27:59.000I would just take your metaphor even further.
00:28:02.000Look at what you were talking about, the strategy.
00:28:05.000If you care about the people in that area, they're the ones that are suffering because of that bullshit and because of the strategy that he's talking about.
00:28:15.000It is the Gazans, the civilians, they are the ones generationally being abused by Egypt and the Palestinians and Hamas.
00:28:34.000But the true victim of all this are the people that are being kept in poverty and are being taught to hate and vengeance and are being told, you need to go get your grandfather's house.
00:29:02.000There are Native Americans who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars or millions of dollars, wildly successful.
00:29:11.000There is this, like, after a long period of time, I don't think the answer is, For wealthy and successful Native Americans who have made a good life to be like, okay, now I'm going to go physically fight to take the Ben and Jerry's factory.
00:29:25.000They were bought, a lot of those chiefs were bought out in the process of the colonization, so they were very wealthy.
00:30:07.000And it's a song where they're singing, This Land is My Land, and it basically just shows an animation of every different group that has taken... So who do you give it to?
00:30:48.000And then you go, well 70 years ago Ukraine was Soviet Union.
00:30:50.000And then you ask the same exact people, now what about the Palestinians who want to take back what they claim is theirs in Israel, because that used to
00:32:52.000So there's this weird thing where it's like, in this specific conflict, and this is why I hate the ceasefire talk, because if ceasefires worked, this would be the most peaceful place on planet Earth.
00:33:02.000The problem that we have here is that throughout most of human history, when you started a war, you knew that if you lost, you were going to be annihilated.
00:33:10.000So you were very cautious about starting wars.
00:33:12.000What we do when we're like, when we're constantly police this action or that action or try to get them to use the least amount of force possible is we just sow the seeds for the second conflict and we lower the barrier or that we lower the consequences for initiating force against another country.
00:33:28.000Like in Japan, like we were like, okay, you're going to bomb Pearl Harbor, but you're going to feel the full force of the United States of America.
00:35:47.000Like, they say Putin wants to take back Ukraine, and it's because Ukraine was historically Russia, so he thinks there's a right to it.
00:35:52.000And I'm like, so the Palestinians don't have a right to Israel?
00:35:55.000Israeli state, are they not saying they have a right to the territory?
00:36:00.000The Israeli state, I believe the claim of what you want to call an occupation or whatever you want to call it, is that they have a right to the territory.
00:36:08.000It's the same thing Putin's saying about Ukraine that the Germans said about Poland.
00:36:12.000The other question is where are the Jews supposed to go?
00:36:14.000Like, where are they supposed to go in the world?
00:36:43.000Well, I don't think, yeah, I mean, do you think, I don't think that Hamas has any intention of having a peaceful situation with Israel.
00:36:50.000Like at this point, the Palestinians would need to have a completely new leadership structure and you have the Palestinian Authority making deals with, you know, having like backroom conversations or whatever with Hamas.
00:37:02.000Because together, like, if they unified, then there's an even bigger problem for Israel.
00:37:07.000But Israel removed all of the settlements, all of the Israeli settlements from Gaza in like 2005.
00:37:11.000We're like, OK, have your have your spot, you know, and we're going to go over here.
00:37:16.000We're going to maintain really secure borders because I know that you have a lot of terrorists.
00:37:22.000But it was only after Biden got elected that, according to like the Wall Street Journal reporting, It was after Biden got elected that Hamas started making these plans to do this invasion.
00:37:33.000And it's pretty interesting, I think, that timing, because Donald Trump doesn't have, you know, Donald Trump is like the crazy homeless guy on the corner with a knife.
00:37:43.000Like, one thing I really liked about Donald Trump is, like, he was pretty clear, if you come after the U.S., if you come after our allies, we're just going to destroy you, is what's going to happen.
00:37:52.000Like, we're going to have a disproportionate response.
00:37:55.000And as an American, if my country's under threat, I want a president who's going to be no-holds-barred about a response.
00:38:01.000I don't want a proportionate response if you attack America.
00:38:03.000I don't want that to be proportionate.
00:38:05.000I don't want to mess around with you so that maybe you keep chucking bombs at us or whatever.
00:38:30.000Like, just believe him a little bit, and then suddenly we're gonna have some peace.
00:38:34.000We had peace in Israel, and one thing that Hamas definitely doesn't want, and the hardline Islamists don't want, they don't want Saudi Arabia and the UAE having any kind of normalized relations with Israel.
00:38:45.000And I think a lot of this is about messing up that kind of diplomacy.
00:38:49.000Look, take everything Democrats have said about Trump, completely at face value and true, and now be a foreign leader.
00:38:55.000And he comes up to you and he's like, if you take Ukraine, I'll nuke Moscow.
00:40:04.000With the, you know, the Red Heifer stuff and the eschatology or whatever.
00:40:08.000Those are fascinating conversations, but there absolutely are people who believe it.
00:40:12.000I'm not saying the government believes it.
00:40:14.000The conversations I've had with the very anti-Israel Uh, faction.
00:40:19.000These people say they don't think Israel really believes the deep religious stuff and the Second Coming or anything like that, but there are powerful political forces within Israel and outside of Israel that are Christian or Jewish that certainly believe that they've gotta, you know, take the heifer, sacrifice it and all that stuff or whatever that is.
00:40:36.000Yeah, realistically, I would say that Jewish people could live wherever they want on Earth, wherever is safe and enjoyable, like United States.
00:40:43.000My best friends have been Jewish throughout life, and I didn't even know, I don't know what that means.
00:40:46.000It's no different than Christian in my mind.
00:40:48.000But they weren't hardcore practicing, and I understand why they would want a community of people that shut everything down on Saturday, and everyone's cool with it.
00:40:55.000I kind of miss when stuff got shut down on Sundays.
00:40:57.000When I grew up in Massachusetts, stuff would be closed on Sundays.
00:41:00.000You kind of, like, had to take a break.
00:41:27.000New demonic technology when they wrote that law in 1911 or whatever.
00:41:31.000You can't have the stores open on Sunday.
00:41:33.000And I don't know when they made the law, I'm just saying.
00:41:34.000But to your point about they could live in the United States, that's the second most Jewish populated country in the world, the United States.
00:41:41.000But the idea is minority populations historically, or distinct ethnic groups, find their own state.
00:41:47.000And, like, for the Jewish people, it makes sense.
00:41:52.000Like, you know, all the things in their book, that's, like, down the street.
00:41:55.000Now, if they formed a nation, like, let's say they lost the war, and they had to be pushed off, and they had to form a nation on, like, an island somewhere, and they went with that, I'd be like, fine, like, you know, you lost, I'm sorry that all your, like, religious texts, like, items and places are all in that location, but they ended up winning the war, so.
00:42:12.000So, do you think it's okay for an ethnic group to find and create their own state?
00:42:17.000I think it's the history of the world.
00:42:19.000People form their states based on ethnic origin or shared religion or something shared.
00:42:31.000Like the purpose of their government is to protect their people.
00:42:33.000I think to the United States becoming an ethnostate, I think that's a pipe dream that people don't... I'm just claiming.
00:42:39.000clarified but most countries in the history of the world are ethnic or
00:42:44.000ethnostates like it's just a fact or religion or shared religion. Right so so
00:42:48.000you would say yes. Yes a hundred percent. But what so the question is about Europe.
00:42:52.000Yeah I think Germany Look, Germany should be for German people.
00:42:55.000When Otto von Bismarck united Germany into one state in the 1800s, the reason they did that is because Germanic people needed their own state.
00:43:03.000They had cities in Eastern Europe that they had put together, and the native population didn't like the German elite in those cities.
00:43:13.000Also in the 1800s, the first time Italian unification happened, it was about having a state for Italian people.
00:43:21.000France for the French, Italy for the Italian.
00:43:24.000The thing about Israel though, Israel I agree a lot of ways like that is how societies form culturally over time you develop an ethnic state and then you make a state out of it or whatever.
00:43:33.000But the Jewish state got built by a law.
00:43:35.000It wasn't like naturally over time for thousands of years.
00:43:38.000They got placed there in 1917 or some ridiculous like they just all of a sudden it just appeared and all this new ethnicity appeared there and they're like this is our land.
00:43:47.000And anyone else that's not this ethnicity might have a problem with that.
00:43:49.000And that's like, so forcing an ethnic state might be a different argument.
00:43:53.000A lot of ethnic states were created in the immediate aftermath of World War II.
00:43:58.000Like Pakistan was created, was actually cut off from India, and then there was actually East and West Pakistan, which one became Bangladesh.
00:44:04.000But yeah, it was created suddenly, and like the lead up was, and there was a Jewish presence, but if you look at the Ottoman records, they kept it very low, like 5,000 Jewish people in that territory.
00:44:15.000But over time, after the Ottoman Empire fell, they started buying up land, establishing a presence, the British ended up receiving that territory after World War I when the Ottoman Empire fell, prize of war, and they promised, they actually promised two states, one for the soon-to-be-called Palestinian population, One for the soon-to-be-called Israeli population.
00:44:36.000And, you know, they didn't really deliver on that.
00:44:39.000I believe there was an assassination of a British official, I forgot, by a Jewish terrorist that assassinated him.
00:44:46.000And the Brits were like, alright, we're out of here, you figure it out.
00:46:28.000No, but like, if those groups can't live together and they separate, like, that's what happens.
00:46:33.000Like, we live in a very American context where we're like, I live in New York City, Italian neighborhood, you know, or German signs, like in Astoria, Queens, like you see Steinway, it's a German sign.
00:46:44.000It's literally the most diverse place on planet Earth.
00:46:47.000When they did the human genome study, they did it right there because you have 170 plus languages.
00:47:21.000So, like, that can work, and we all expect that to work, and we think that our context in America can be applied over the history of the world, but let's not be dishonest about it.
00:47:30.000We had conflict with the natives, conflict with black Americans, conflict amongst different European ethnic groups, and over time we were able to work that out.
00:47:38.000These people are in their conflict phase, and it's greater than what we experienced.
00:47:48.000Do you think Israel's gonna have a civil war?
00:47:50.000Inside Israel, no, but like with these, if they were to merge the countries, like, you know, absorb the population, these one staters who just want the Arabs to have the majority so that they can vote to kill the Jews.
00:48:08.000With our, with our comeuppance is our, this a nation that's given us the groundwork and stability to host 180 different cultures or whatever you were talking about in one city.
00:48:16.000Like we fought a civil war and It ended up with putting a ton of power in the central authority and the federal government after that.
00:48:23.000Abraham Lincoln just seized control and basically that was the end of the republic.
00:48:27.000If you want to ask some of the greatest minds, or at least there's one guy who said that.
00:49:22.000You could kind of understand it, right?
00:49:24.000You knew like what the cultural norms were.
00:49:26.000There was a lot of – there was Baseball there was apple pie cooling on the window so these were whether these were our homes or not these were some of the things that we look to we had this idea of what it would be when we grew up in this country we would be able to own a home you know if we wanted to do that we would be able to go west and pursue our dreams.
00:49:45.000You know, we expected that the cultural infrastructure would exist to teach our children about our history, our language, our shared beliefs, our shared understanding, the social religion of kindness and generosity that basically exists regardless of what your religion is at home.
00:50:04.000And then we have had the past, like, what, 30, 40 years of directly undermining that and cutting off our own culture at the knees and saying everything that America was built on is wrong.
00:50:15.000So everything that exists in America is wrong and needs to be dismantled.
00:50:19.000And I look at a country like Israel or like you're talking about ethnostates, and I think America doesn't have that.
00:50:26.000But why is it that we are destroying our culture and saying it's terrible and replacing it with something that, you know, has a morality like shifting sand where we can't stand on it?
00:50:37.000We can't send our children to any schools and expect that they will even be educated in our own history.
00:50:42.000Our institutions are no longer stewards of our culture.
00:50:44.000They're no longer stewards of our history.
00:50:46.000Like, why is it that we have so much to say about every other nation on Earth and what they're doing, you know, and how they're treating the their conflicts or whatever, when we have absolutely no interest in preserving or stewarding our country and keeping it whole.
00:51:53.000That's a special buy-in that we had in this country.
00:51:55.000And I love America and I want other places to be more like it, but I have to deal with the practical reality that that's not the case.
00:52:03.000I mean, Scotland and England, they're on the same island, Britain.
00:52:09.000They've fought for over petty differences forever, and they're still, like, even though they're in one United Kingdom, they're still distinct peoples from one another, and they're as close as you can get to being the same.
00:52:21.000So, like, this is just what people tend to do, and, like, you know, we've tried to move past it here, but it's not something that everywhere in the world is ready for, especially not in the Middle East, especially not in Israel and Gaza and, uh, what's the other one?
00:52:37.000I think that One of the great things about America though, because what you're saying is right, but we have 50 states and you can find what you're looking for if you move.
00:52:57.000I just left New York last year and I moved out here and I love it out here but I have not found what I grew up with.
00:53:03.000But I find if you, you know, in the cities things are bad because Democrats run the cities and there's division and they're removing merit.
00:53:17.000They're ginning up the race issues, which we didn't have.
00:53:20.000You know, when I grew up, you know, Oprah, Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Prince, Michael Jackson, they were the biggest stars in the world.
00:53:30.000I mean, now we've become very divided.
00:53:33.000But the secret to America is that you just have to go Where things are normal, where there's sanity.
00:53:39.000And that's the great thing about the country is that it's so huge.
00:53:55.000And now people can find their own culture and be a part of that like they did for 10,000, 100,000 years of human history until mass culture came along.
00:54:05.000So the great thing about America, you have the states and it's so big and so vast that you can't hide from it.
00:54:11.000And I've always said the Amish figured it out.
00:57:22.000And we will lose on the Supreme Court because, you know, Republicans are 50-50 at best at appointing justices.
00:57:29.000And like, you know, a constitutional or textualist philosophy, they'll say, oh, political, they'll use political questions doctrine to refuse to deal with something like that.
00:57:38.000But as soon as they have a majority, they're going to press on all these issues.
00:58:31.000Yeah, I was going to say they're the most powerful civil aspect of our government, the courts, but then I was like, well, Congress is civil, but they're not really.
00:58:40.000But I didn't want to make that joke because I like those people, some of them.
00:58:43.000I mean, are they considered civilians?
00:59:52.000I think at the very least it's a lot of living organisms making up one big organism, kind of like our bodies with all these living cells making up one living organism.
01:00:00.000And I think this is not a coincidence.
01:01:14.000When they write the history and they'll be like, Shortly before Trump arrived at court for, you know, for this proceeding, there was an earthquake at his golf resort, which shocked the nation or whatever.
01:01:25.000And people are gonna be like, no, wait, come on.
01:01:51.000So I wonder, I was thinking last night, like, if there's some horrible tragedy about to occur on the planet Earth and God steps in and stops it with a natural disaster, like, it would be horrible still.
01:02:49.000Well, wouldn't that be like, I mean, you could have, well yeah, there were the salt mines, and then Lot, his wife, turned into salt because she looked back.
01:03:57.000It would have been more, but then they reduced my bond amount.
01:04:00.000So I just threw him a little bit of a four point something.
01:04:02.000So the reason I asked about whether Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by natural means, like the question is, when God takes an action, does it appear miraculous, like a magical beam of light or a volcano erupts?
01:06:45.000Someone mentioned, you yesterday, Tim, about the farmers in California having to suck the water out of like 20,000 feet down to get to the water table, and that caused seismic disruption.
01:07:01.000Well, it's because the earth is flat and beneath the plane is the waters of the universe and they're pulling that out and sinking us to the bottom of the dome that we're in.
01:07:13.000My question is, is maybe like this much concrete is like the safest thing that you could have?
01:07:19.000Because remember Casey Neistat stuck a camera, like he pulled up a whole Brooklyn sidewalk and it was just this much separating it from the ground.
01:08:26.000I know Haiti didn't have seismic activity for 200 years.
01:08:30.000And then all of a sudden that fault line, I forgot what it's called, activated and they had just reinforced their buildings for hurricanes.
01:08:57.000As we were just talking, I was thinking, like, God is going to say, when you die, if you die, or when you speak with God, it'll be like, yeah, it was real, dude, the whole time, I guess.
01:09:06.000Why did it take you 48 or 500 years or however long?
01:09:09.000Why did it take you so many years to figure that out?
01:09:11.000Why did you live your life like just, like, you need it.
01:09:16.000I want to give this lady a special shout out from the post-millennial.
01:09:20.000Woke New Jersey Senate candidate says earthquake is evidence the climate crisis is real.
01:10:44.000The climate predictions that lead to these, what they call the climate crisis, the climate, the big one, the predictions are made without implementing mitigating factors.
01:10:53.000I talked actually with Ben Shapiro about this.
01:10:55.000Ben's really knowledgeable about this too.
01:10:59.000So they build a data and they're like, if things continue as they are in 10 years, we will be, things don't, they do not always, you learn a new technology completely.
01:11:06.000Like the horse poop in New York, they invented the automobile and it was completely, it was the biggest problem on earth.
01:11:12.000When did Greta Thunberg, she was like, we have three years left or something.
01:11:15.000And like, and then she deleted the tweet.
01:11:39.000What I always think about when, you know, people freak out about the climate and they're like, we have to do this and we have to change this about our lives and our culture and our whole civilization.
01:11:49.000To appease the weather gods so that they don't kill us.
01:13:30.000So to your point about how it doesn't measure like the change, it just says, if we continue at this rate and we have this much, this is why all those Malthusian economic predictions never come true.
01:13:40.000They're like, we have this many people, this much food is being grown.
01:13:43.000It's like, yeah, but when there's more people we think of, we try to make new strains.
01:13:48.000We'll be able to start making oil in laboratories like They're doing blue crude.
01:14:09.000It's always more government, less freedom.
01:14:12.000They never come up, you know, like if we found out that earthquakes were caused because there wasn't enough carbon in the air, they would never tell us that.
01:14:22.000If that's what we figured out, because no one can't have more carbon in the air, because then you'll enjoy your air conditioning.
01:14:26.000No, no, no, but they would, but then they would just make a reason why that means we need communism.
01:14:31.000Yeah, or they would do that, or they would hide it.
01:14:33.000They'd be like, oh, well, because of that, we have to put carbon vehicles, everyone has to have a carbon vehicle, so you need to sign up for this government program.
01:14:39.000Right, everybody, we're going to centralize, everybody has to have air conditioning, everybody has to have a gas grill.
01:14:45.000That means all of the newcomers that are coming in and staying at these shelters are going to need their own air conditioners and cars as well because it's a mandate to prevent the catastrophe with earthquakes.
01:15:05.000Pure carbon, reusable, put it in building materials, make electronics out of it and stuff.
01:15:09.000But the problem is if private companies start doing that, we might take too much out of the air and then we'll start killing off the plant life.
01:15:15.000So we might need, not a communist mandate, some sort of central mandate to make sure that we don't, as a species, eradicate our air supply.
01:16:05.000He's like, if it were real, all of these banks would be legally required to have this, like a red notice, bold, like, this property will be inviolable in 30 years, your investment will be zero, and this loan will be dead.
01:16:22.000I had a webcam set up in my living room.
01:16:24.000The reason they're coming out and saying beachfront property is worthless, it's going to be underwater, is to drop the prices and buy it up.
01:17:36.000I know it's crazy cuz like you go to New York and you like walk down the street you're that as asphalt over gravel on dirt and Bedrock and stuff you go to Chicago and you're walking on the sidewalk and underneath you you are walking on a bridge It's been the whole city like the whole not the whole city, but this whole portion of the city.
01:19:11.000The final point about climate change I'll make is that they never talk about adaptation.
01:19:16.000We adapt to everything, all different kinds of circumstances.
01:19:19.000And there are actually people who are like, oh, adapting to it is just like accepting the problem and you're never going to change.
01:19:24.000But it's like, OK, but you told me Manhattan's going to be underwater.
01:19:28.000Building a barrier to save one of the economic epicenters of the world seems like way smarter than relocating one of the economic epicenters of the world.
01:19:37.000Like, how much does it cost to build a sea barrier versus moving Manhattan?
01:19:42.000Plus, you'd have to go to a war with China to get them to comply.
01:19:45.000I mean, there's nothing we can do that's going to change with China.
01:23:44.000Yeah, so I guess we had an annular eclipse, which is where the moon is further away from the sun, so it, from the earth, so it doesn't cover the sun completely.
01:23:51.000And then, you know, you can actually see the sun.
01:23:53.000And then we're having now is a total eclipse where the moon is close to the sun, so it looks bigger and it's going to block the whole thing.
01:25:00.000Because they're firing rockets that measure disturbance in atmosphere on a time when the moon is blocking the sun.
01:25:05.000So there's a reason they want to test the disturbance when the sun is blocked out magnetically or whatever kind of disturbances they're looking for.
01:25:11.000I just want to see Trump stare at the eclipse again.
01:25:15.000That's the funny thing, because the left attacked him for it.
01:25:17.000He glanced at it briefly, and they're like, he looked at it!
01:26:18.000At least I've found they melted mine away.
01:26:20.000And also my vision got better when I was away from the computer and gazing at the Because it was like LASIK, he was looking around the sun, he was singeing the ring of Cuscornia.
01:26:42.000Of looking directly at the sun, oh sure.
01:26:44.000It's like the raw milk of healing yourself.
01:26:45.000It's done as a spiritual or religious practice, most often dawn or dusk.
01:26:49.000The human eye is very sensitive and exposure to direct sunlight can lead to solar retinopathy, how do you pronounce this, pterygium, cataracts, and potentially blindness.
01:27:20.000Don't stare at the sun ever for any reason.
01:27:22.000Gaze, that's why they call it gazing instead of staring, because you're really not focused on the sun, you're focused in the direction of it, letting the light hit the back of your eye.
01:27:28.000There's also people that they do, what do they call it?
01:27:37.000They get naked and then you hold your legs up in the air so the sun can hit your crack because they're like, it's the one part of the body that never gets sun.
01:28:36.000Okay, so it basically causes all your blood vessels to constrict, squeeze out lactic acid, and it reduces your recovery time, while stopping the recovery process.
01:29:03.000I think because it sends your body into a shock protein state where it starts to go into like your immune system kicks on and it starts cleaning up the body.
01:32:07.000I think the main point of RFID, of real ID, was so that there was one national database for all IDs from all states.
01:32:13.000Basically stripping you of your sovereignty and destroying states' rights.
01:32:17.000And making it so I don't have to spend nine days getting people to mail things to that guy, to that guy, to that guy every time I move states, which will be the upside of it.
01:32:23.000And then the best part is in 50 years they're gonna do the same thing with NATO.
01:32:27.000And then you're gonna have to get your updated NATO real ID.
01:32:30.000So that we can have one database between France, the UK, New York, Illinois.
01:32:35.000We gotta call something other than NATO though.
01:32:37.000I'm down with a one-world government as long as it doesn't have much strength.
01:32:40.000Like, if we have the state's rights still, but there's, like, a central authority that's, like, weak.
01:32:44.000Yeah, but, like, I was watching this commercial, and there was this lady singing about taking some drug for her A1C or something.
01:33:55.000Yeah, it is a cultural attack on the working people.
01:33:58.000And they're just being replaced with like, you know, cheap immigrants.
01:34:02.000Yeah, and you hear stories, too, where I live about people, they have pride, things are going well, and then the government will come in and say, no, you got to get these food stamps.
01:35:10.000Apparently, it's like an urban legend, I don't know if it's true, but he was like sitting, he was waiting for a friend or something, and so they gave him a thing of biscuits, the cheddar biscuits, and he ate them, and he just annihilated the whole basket, and then they were like, they're endless, so he's like, I'll get another one, and then someone said like, man, you could break the record, and then he was like, I could break the record, and then he died.
01:36:40.000All right, Barely a Millennial says, Woke up on Easter to the voice of God in my head saying, If you smoke one more cigarette, you'll get lung cancer.
01:38:52.000DJ Bell says, as a born and raised Californian, a 4.8 isn't even worth talking about.
01:38:58.000Yeah, I was in something comparable in Virginia.
01:39:01.000We were sitting in my friend's living room, and there was a cup on the coffee table, and we saw the rings in it, and then we were like, Is there an earthquake?
01:41:03.000Yeah, basically, if you don't like that Bezos does what Bezos does, and Amazon does what they're doing, Public Square is this alternate marketplace, and I hope that Public Square becomes the new Amazon, where you gotta believe in American values before you can sell.
01:41:24.000We don't want any of that weird... You know, the issue with it for me is most of these companies don't know or care.
01:41:31.000They're simply saying, what's the trending thing?
01:42:35.000Because they'll just say yes on the, I fully agree with the United States and the ethos of the United States, and they'll say yes anyway just to make money.
01:42:42.000And then they're starting to agree and meme in to the new way.
01:42:45.000They just need to be kicked out if they sign up.
01:42:53.000And then if they violate those, those, those like clear, if they do these things and you can say like, Hey, you lied, but I'm like, we get to the point where people who are not political are just like, Oh yeah, sure.
01:43:12.000Let me just tell you guys, you don't gotta know anything about skateboarding other than AWH distribution is one of the largest.
01:43:17.000So the way it works is, like skate shops have distributors who collect all of the gear, boards, clothes, all this stuff, and then they order directly from a warehouse.
01:43:27.000So, and Flip Skateboards, Jeff Rowley, Tom Penny, who else is, I haven't followed their team in a long time, but these are, Jeff Rowley's in the Tony Hawk video game series.
01:43:38.000So this is as popular and mainstream Olympic level stuff as you can get.
01:43:42.000And this means that they're publicly, when you go on, when your company's on public square, you're making a public statement about your politics.
01:44:17.000You look at gymnasts and it's like they've got personal trainers and the trainers being like, today you're gonna do calf stretches and then you're gonna do squats because that's gonna improve when you do this.
01:44:26.000Skateboarders are like, I woke up at 3 p.m., pulled a burrito out of the fridge.
01:44:32.000At five, we're gonna go skate with the guys.
01:44:41.000Andrea Viola says, Tim, I was gifted the line of cast brew as coffee in, uh, I was gifted the line of cast brew as coffee is my thing and I am somewhat a coffee snob.
01:45:20.000And then Appalachian Nights is like, well, we just need like, I was like, I personally like a good dark roast as long as it's not burned or anything.
01:45:25.000And then when you look at the website, the reason the first one that appears everywhere is because it's the highest selling.
01:46:01.000I don't know what it was, but I drank it black and I usually drink it with milk and sugar.
01:46:05.000I'm assuming it's your brand at your place.
01:46:08.000It probably was at Appalachian Nights.
01:46:09.000Stand Your Ground is a medium roast, and it's supposed to have the same flavor profile, so it's supposed to be very similar, but it'll be a little higher caffeine and medium.
01:48:01.000If there's one righteous person in Gaza, then they must spare it.
01:48:04.000Well, actually, God, you know, they had the whole negotiation, and God was like, you know, they got him down to 10, and it's like, yeah, if there's 10 good men... Got him to one.
01:48:13.000Yeah, but there was one, and the angels went, and they hung out with Lot, right?
01:48:19.000They pulled the good people from the city and then blew it up.
01:49:09.000I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that they built it to counter-oppose the PLO, to make the two-state solution more challenging for them.
01:49:19.000And then they had two enemies that hated each other.
01:49:56.000Devin Porter says, Tim, I'd love to help draw the coffee shops to flush out the general aesthetic and franchise design.
01:50:01.000I also offered to draw the display case for the Civil War flag, but I haven't heard back from SCNR or Ian.
01:50:06.000I'm BuilderGuy87, if you're interested.
01:50:08.000We likely will not have the Civil War flag, because we can't cover the liability for it.
01:50:15.000We cannot accept a loaner for several hundred thousand dollar objects, because our insurance companies are like, we will cancel you in two seconds.
01:50:23.000Because we're not going to assume that.
01:50:24.000It's like, okay, well we probably can't do that.
01:50:27.000As for the coffee shops, we've already done everything.
01:50:31.000I can't say much about it because there's like laws or something, but we are really, really close to the process and it's going to be fantastic.
01:50:39.000If you haven't already, you should like push this as a third place, you know?
01:50:44.000So one of the ideas is Saturday morning cartoons where Saturday's at like 6 a.m., families bring their kids, the shop will get catering, Kids can hang out.
01:50:54.000On the TVs, they're playing wholesome, family-friendly cartoons and educational stuff.
01:50:58.000The parents are networking with each other.
01:51:00.000At our building in Martinsburg, on the second floor, we have a private club for Timcast Elite members.
01:51:05.000So, if you're a member at 100 bucks a month, when this opens, you'll have a key fob, and you walk up there and go, doot, and it opens up and you can come hang out.
01:51:19.000And the purpose of the $100 a month, we're not making profit off this.
01:51:24.000Trust me, having a podcast that reaches millions of people, there's way better ways to monetize.
01:51:27.000But it covers the cost of staff, food, drinks, games, and everything.
01:51:31.000So we wanted to create a social club like they have in New York and Los Angeles and Hollywood and all that stuff where these liberal elites get together and then talk business.
01:51:40.000Trump's got his, of course, at Mar-a-Lago.
01:51:44.000Where the plumber can come and hang out and talk with his buddies who, one guy works the post office and one guy's a mechanic, and they can be like, did you hear what this a-hole over at City Hall's trying to do?
01:51:55.000That organizing is how you win a culture war.
01:52:19.000Because people don't know how to do stuff.
01:52:22.000I've been told that as the computers take control or start to take over, it's the things that require manual dexterity that will still You remove everybody.
01:52:32.000You know, the people that keep the world turning are the plumbers and the exterminators and the mechanics.
01:53:47.000You go to Chicago and there's so many businesses.
01:53:49.000If you are in Chicago, New York, or LA, you need to have this because in Chicago, in the belly of the beast of these Democrat strongholds, there are businesses that outright say like, hey man, we're with you.
01:53:59.000There's a kombucha place on Public Square.
01:54:24.000Hundreds of thousands of businesses in Chicago, and you can find what looks like a couple hundred businesses that have signed up for Public Square.
01:54:34.000I don't think they should have to feel like they have to fly a flag to be like, hey, everyone in the world, just acknowledge it on a piece of paper in the back.
01:54:57.000Even Western Maryland is MAGA country.
01:54:59.000I was saying, there's a bar in the Maryland panhandle in Western Maryland.
01:55:04.000And they had the Trump riding the velociraptor with the machine gun or whatever.
01:55:07.000And I'm like, you know, you don't need, you don't need, you know, they should be on public square, but we know out here, but like, if you're in New York, you, you could intentionally give your money to businesses that have said, I believe in this country and our values and all these things and reject.
01:55:20.000It's like basically just saying no woke.
01:58:04.000We take the coca leaf, you put a little tobacco in it, just pure like sticky tobacco, and then you fold up the leaf and stick it up in your lip, and suck on it for like 20 minutes.
01:59:23.000But it's, you know, I don't think it's a coincidence that Moses or Charlton Heston, whoever it was, says these things are going to happen and then these natural things happen to make them happen.
02:01:02.000I'm just joking around here, you know?
02:01:04.000Bro, I'm not even like religious or spiritual that much.
02:01:07.000Like, I'm really literally deep down like a common sense kind of guy, but if he put his name on a Bible and there was an earthquake... I don't think he did.
02:01:13.000I think it's called the God Bless the USA Bible.
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