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00:00:00.000 The White House attempted to interfere in the special counsel investigation of Joe Biden 0.95

00:00:12.000 And at the hearing today, Robert Herr testified, it was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. 0.75

00:00:18.000 Democrats were accidentally defending Donald Trump in this weird way.

00:00:23.000 I don't understand, and Republicans were arguing, look, the Democrats were saying that Robert Herr was trying to make Joe Biden look bad so that Trump would win, and that Trump was also not of sound mind and was senile, which would effectively mean he can't be prosecuted because that was Robert Herr's argument that Joe Biden, he's just, his memory's not good and you can't prove intent, which made literally no sense because the crime committed by Joe Biden was seven years ago and none of this hearing makes any sense.

00:00:51.000 In fact, Robert Herr, special counsel, confirmed that all of the criteria for a crime was met by Joe Biden.

00:01:00.000 Joe Biden committed these crimes.

00:01:02.000 He took classified documents.

00:01:04.000 He had motive to do so, financial gain, personal, uh, his personal legacy.

00:01:09.000 He knew that it was a crime to do so and even warned his ghostwriter when he revealed this information, be careful, some of this may be classified.

00:01:16.000 Yet for some reason, Robert Herr's like, but we can't charge him because, you know, his memory is bad.

00:01:22.000 And so the argument from one, you know, one member of Congress is like, so his memory was bad and 2017?

00:01:26.000 When he committed the crime?

00:01:29.000 Apparently so.

00:01:30.000 Democrats like Adam Schiff accused Robert Herr of being a Republican partisan who was trying to help Donald Trump win, but I actually assume that, come on, as if the Democrat DOJ would appoint Robert Herr without, you know, you're going to win the battle before it starts.

00:01:44.000 They knew exactly what they were going to get out of it, and I think that Robert Herr just doesn't want to go after Joe.

00:01:49.000 I think the double standard in the DOJ But there are a lot of interesting political arguments we'll get into.

00:01:53.000 I think the important one is the confirmation that the White House did reach out to them and tried to influence the investigation, so we'll talk about that.

00:01:59.000 Joe Biden has won the Democratic nomination.

00:02:02.000 Congratulations, Joe Biden.

00:02:03.000 We are excited that you are the nominee because no one has any idea how you're gonna win this one.

00:02:09.000 And I think it's expected.

00:02:11.000 Tonight, Donald Trump should win the GOP nomination, getting more than enough delegates to be the official nominee.

00:02:16.000 He's already the presumptive nominee, so it's a big waste of time.

00:02:18.000 But we'll talk about that, plus a bunch of other stories leaked.

00:02:21.000 I shouldn't say leaked, but undercover footage of Boeing employees saying they would not want to fly on these planes is particularly interesting.

00:02:28.000 So my friends, before we get started with all that, head over to castbrew.com and pick up coffee.

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00:02:49.000 This morning at 9.48 AM, Mr. Bocas passed.

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00:03:00.000 He was unable to walk.

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00:03:19.000 But Mr. Bocas unfortunately had underdeveloped kidneys, as he was a street cat, and they weren't enough for his adult kitty body.

00:03:27.000 He, uh, his kidneys were working overtime non-stop because they were underdeveloped and it shortened his lifespan dramatically to about five and a half years.

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00:05:30.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Kurt Mills.

00:05:33.000 Hey, thanks for having me.

00:05:34.000 Who are you?

00:05:35.000 What do you do?

00:05:35.000 I'm the executive director of a magazine called The American Conservative.

00:05:39.000 We're out in DC, so...

00:05:41.000 Right on.

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00:05:44.000 We try to.

00:05:45.000 All right.

00:05:45.000 It should be fun.

00:05:46.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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00:05:48.000 Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:05:49.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com.

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00:05:51.000 Shane's back tonight.

00:05:52.000 What's up?

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00:05:53.000 I'm very sorry about Mr. Bocas.

00:05:55.000 Glad we had a moment with him last night after the show.

00:05:58.000 I grew up on a horse farm, buried lots of animals.

00:06:00.000 I remember my first horse funeral was like a year old, and I had a life of funerals at our farm, and it never got easier.

00:06:06.000 You know, like, so I know the pain of losing an animal.

00:06:08.000 It's horrible, no matter how much it happens.

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00:06:13.000 Serge, what's good?

00:06:14.000 We can only assume that Mr. Muttonchops is the next to go. 1.00

00:06:17.000 He's the rooster that keeps escaping, and it's hilarious.

00:06:20.000 And to be honest, we culled a good amount of the roosters and ate them.

00:06:23.000 Well, that was delicious.

00:06:25.000 It was delicious.

00:06:25.000 That was delicious.

00:06:26.000 Allison's rooster chili.

00:06:27.000 But we spared Mr. Muttonchops because he's hilarious and he always escapes. 1.00

00:06:31.000 And I was like, that amount of courage should be rewarded if only because it's short-lived.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, true.

00:06:38.000 Uh, yeah.

00:06:38.000 Rest in peace, Mr. Bocas.

00:06:40.000 I'm ready to start when you are.

00:06:41.000 Here we go!

00:06:43.000 We have this story from the post-millennial.

00:06:44.000 White House tried to get special counsel to change Biden classified docs report before release.

00:06:51.000 Her said that officials did, in fact, request certain edits and changes to the draft report.

00:06:56.000 This is interesting because I believe it was reported to the contrary.

00:07:00.000 Initially, the White House denied that they ever tried to interfere.

00:07:04.000 Now, this is the special counsel, Robert Herr, who was testifying before the House Judiciary Committee earlier today in what may be I think this testimony may be some of the most important testimony this country has ever heard because this testimony exposes that there is no longer a country.

00:07:27.000 I don't know how else to put it.

00:07:29.000 Robert identified multiple criteria that had to be met in order to justify criminally charging Joe Biden.

00:07:35.000 He was asked several times by Republicans, was the criteria met?

00:07:40.000 To which he kept saying, no, but yes.

00:07:44.000 And the reason why, the third criteria, I believe it was, the willful retention of the documents or something to this effect, and he said, while there is evidence that Joe Biden did willfully retain these documents, knowingly breaking the law, he's got a bad memory, so we couldn't prove that he was willful when he did it, despite the fact he said he was doing it for financial gain?

00:08:13.000 And for his legacy, and he warned others that it was dangerous because it might be classified, but we can't prove that.

00:08:20.000 It's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:08:21.000 I kid you not.

00:08:22.000 He was asked several times.

00:08:24.000 Robert Herr.

00:08:25.000 So Joe Biden was speaking with his ghostwriter.

00:08:27.000 And he tells his ghostwriter, be careful, some of this might be classified.

00:08:31.000 The ghostwriter then deletes that conversation knowing there was a special counsel investigating it and that it was a crime.

00:08:38.000 Obstructing justice, destroying evidence.

00:08:41.000 There have been no criminal charges.

00:08:43.000 When you have, in congressional testimony, a man saying, I kid you not, Joe Biden thought he was gonna make money off his book, he was, what's the word that he, I can't remember, he said that he was reserved to make this book happen or something like that, that there were people who were interested in buying it, he needed his documents for his legacy, and that is in the report, factually, and I have to wonder, When we have this story, that the White House tried to get special counsel to change the Biden classified docs report before its release, I have to wonder if what really happened is Robert Herr was like, oh yeah, Joe Biden broke the law, and willfully retained the documents, shared the information with someone who had no clearance, knew he did it, and then the Biden White House went to him and said, we will destroy you, and we will destroy your children, unless you refuse to go after Biden, and this is what he ended up getting out of it.

00:09:38.000 I can't tell you.

00:09:40.000 It is shockingly insane.

00:09:41.000 You know, Adam Schiff is arguing that Robert Herr was actually trying to help Trump win by saying that Joe Biden was, you know, essentially a frail old man, well-to-do old man with a bad memory, when he didn't need to include that.

00:09:56.000 Robert Herr said, well, I did, to explain why we weren't charging him.

00:09:59.000 And then, you know, the Democrats were like, you could have said something like, you lacked the evidence to prove intent.

00:10:05.000 That's all.

00:10:07.000 I mean, Robert Hurd didn't need to say, here's why.

00:10:07.000 That's true.

00:10:10.000 He could have literally just been like, however evidence of intent were.

00:10:14.000 Ultimately, the problem was, the reason why he did have to include it is because all the criteria has been met.

00:10:21.000 Joe Biden took classified documents.

00:10:23.000 He had them at multiple locations.

00:10:25.000 I think it was like six locations.

00:10:27.000 He did it for financial gain, because he wanted to write a book, and he knew the book was gonna sell.

00:10:32.000 He wanted to preserve his legacy.

00:10:33.000 Apparently, this is what he was saying.

00:10:36.000 Here's the wildest part of it.

00:10:38.000 When Robert Herr was questioning Joe Biden, I kid you not, Joe Biden responds with, you step your foot off the accelerator until it says launch, transcript then indicates makes car sound.

00:10:50.000 Which means Joe Biden literally, when talking to the special counsel and being investigated, he's like, so the Corvette's great, you put your foot on the accelerator, you hold it down until it says launch, take your foot off the brake, and then He literally said, this is what Dylan Housman says, Joe Biden literally said, my Corvette go brr when her pleaded with him to answer actual questions.

00:11:12.000 I watched this testimony and I was like, there's no United States.

00:11:15.000 There's no reality.

00:11:16.000 I mean look, a country, a legitimate functioning country with legitimate functioning law enforcement, this does not happen in.

00:11:22.000 But we're a banana republic.

00:11:24.000 The sitting president broke the law seven years ago.

00:11:27.000 The argument from Robert Herr is that Joe Biden today, his memory is bad, so, you know, what are we going to do?

00:11:34.000 That's just seven years ago!

00:11:35.000 It was Afghanistan documents from when he was vice president.

00:11:37.000 Yeah, well, what are you going to do about it?

00:11:39.000 I guess that's the point.

00:11:40.000 What are we going to do about it?

00:11:41.000 Now, a few things say, maybe Robert Herr was like, if we indict him, then they can bring in Gavin Newsom.

00:11:47.000 You know, they can justify something.

00:11:49.000 So let's just let him, let's let him stay president, I guess.

00:11:52.000 His memory's bad, so let's put him in the White House.

00:11:54.000 That sounds good.

00:11:55.000 I mean, it is amazing.

00:11:58.000 To me, this comes across as protecting Biden at any cost, and for some reason, instead of saying we couldn't establish a tent, saying, well, you know, he's a bad memory, can't always trust everything he says, somehow seemed like a better conclusion to draw, which to me, as an American citizen, sounds awful.

00:12:12.000 We don't know what this guy's going to say, and he can't remember anything.

00:12:15.000 Good thing he's making all of our decisions right now.

00:12:17.000 To what degree do you think they're protecting him?

00:12:18.000 Cause it's like, yeah, they're protecting him, but they're also parading this brain dead person out before everyone.

00:12:24.000 You know, I think I've been thinking a lot about FDR and the media and how the media protected, you know, FDR's paralysis from the people.

00:12:31.000 And if you can go to FDR's website, they'll talk about how if a journalist reported on his weak legs, they'd go after those journalists and like shake them down basically, you know?

00:12:41.000 So what are, how are they protecting Biden?

00:12:44.000 Cause they're not hiding his, But what if they are hiding it?

00:12:47.000 got going on like they used to hide.

00:12:49.000 But what they are hiding, this is the best they can do to hide.

00:12:51.000 Or are they hiding it to a point where they can still get him across the finish line to the next election and then do

00:12:56.000 something, some Hail Mary with Gavin Newsom.

00:13:00.000 After 2020, my brain is just jelly.

00:13:03.000 Like Biden's.

00:13:05.000 We're all Biden.

00:13:06.000 We've been Biden'd.

00:13:07.000 No, because I think it's fair to say that the general political commentary assessment of the 2020 election was sound, but no one saw the bout harvesting coming and the procedural changes.

00:13:17.000 So when we're looking at, I think the best example is Moody's Analytics, which is historically accurate, says the economy's good, Trump's gonna win, and there's actually a slim potential for a serious victory for Donald Trump.

00:13:29.000 And then Trump ends up winning all the bellwethers, but loses.

00:13:32.000 He ends up with more votes than any sitting president, and loses, which has never happened before.

00:13:36.000 So all of these metrics were indicating that Trump should have won, except for Democrats changed the rules, we're ballot harvesting and operating what Time Magazine called a shadow campaign, which they refer to, I'm saying they refer to it, Time Magazine does, as a conspiracy.

00:13:49.000 I could not have seen that Time Magazine's conspiracy coming.

00:13:52.000 Is that article still live?

00:13:53.000 Yes!

00:13:54.000 It's amazing it's still out there.

00:13:55.000 It's a crazy article.

00:13:56.000 And it quite literally says there was a conspiracy unfolding from corporate executives and politicos to stop Trump from winning.

00:14:02.000 They're like, Trump was calling it a conspiracy.

00:14:03.000 He would technically be right, because what we did was crazy.

00:14:07.000 No, no, they literally say it wasn't.

00:14:08.000 They're not even saying it wasn't.

00:14:10.000 They're saying they've literally engaged in a conspiracy.

00:14:11.000 Yeah, and this is how we did it.

00:14:12.000 So after that happens, I'm kind of like, okay, no sane human being could think that Trump is going to lose this one.

00:14:19.000 Something we can't predict is going to happen.

00:14:22.000 I have no idea.

00:14:23.000 Or maybe it's just, that's it.

00:14:25.000 The establishment powers have shattered.

00:14:27.000 Do you think we make it to an election normally?

00:14:29.000 Or is there a weird Hail Mary thing happening from either side?

00:14:32.000 Yeah, I tend to think we're going to.

00:14:34.000 I mean, of course, this is the prediction business.

00:14:37.000 I think that we actually do, as you mentioned, have sort of PTSD for 2020.

00:14:41.000 So we do assume that there's going to be this other shoe to drop.

00:14:44.000 There's going to be this magic.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, the magic door that opens and they're going to get rid of Biden or something spectacular like an assassination could happen.

00:14:52.000 Of course, all within the zone of possibility.

00:14:55.000 But I think an underrated possibility, if not the likelihood, is that none of this happens.

00:15:00.000 We do get our rematch and that the forces are aligning to make both of them pretty strong.

00:15:09.000 I sort of actually think, in a weird way, this was the result That made it most likely that Biden will be the Democratic nominee, i.e.

00:15:19.000 there won't be a... He won!

00:15:20.000 Well, they're holding out... Okay, so I'm well on record in saying that I think the Biden replacement thing is like the idea they're going to put Newsom in there as a sort of boomer conspiracy theory.

00:15:30.000 We call that Biden replacement theory.

00:15:32.000 Yeah, I think.

00:15:35.000 You're against that happening before the election or even after the election?

00:15:38.000 I think it's crazy.

00:15:38.000 I mean, okay, I think Biden, like, is the president.

00:15:41.000 Like, it's like a real thing.

00:15:42.000 There's like a real guy called Joe Biden.

00:15:46.000 I agree.

00:15:46.000 I already have issues, you and me now.

00:15:48.000 I don't know about that.

00:15:49.000 I know there are people who think there's... He's a hologram or a deepfake or a clone.

00:15:52.000 It's a glass plate.

00:15:53.000 And they project... Or he's an actor or something.

00:15:57.000 Well, yes, to all those things.

00:15:58.000 We can disagree on that.

00:15:59.000 Alright, there's somebody who bears an awful lot of resemblance occupying the Oval Office right now.

00:16:05.000 No, no, occupying the Across the Street Studio replica of the Oval Office.

00:16:09.000 And I do think he is endowed a certain authority of the state and he can do certain things.

00:16:15.000 And so while there may be a wider rate of people in the American establishment who want him to take a hike, if he really wants to be persistent in this, he's gonna do it.

00:16:28.000 Um, and I think if he had been indicted, it would have undermined his case that he is sort of squeaky clean and that he look how much better he is than Trump.

00:16:37.000 So I think it actually bolsters his credibility within the party.

00:16:40.000 But outside of the party, I think this is actually the result that makes him the weakest, uh, plausible general election candidate that he could have been.

00:16:50.000 Because it is going to make the Republicans look like they are the underdog enemies of the state.

00:16:56.000 Look at the way the Democrats roll.

00:16:58.000 They'll indict the Republican nominee for 95 different felonies.

00:17:02.000 And look at the way the Republicans roll, which is that they won't weaponize the justice system.

00:17:07.000 And however, we have this sort of, you know, Spock-like Republican prosecutor person just throwing a nice little aside that they think the President of the United States actually isn't capable of executing his duties.

00:17:19.000 And I think it's withering.

00:17:21.000 Like, I think it's bad to be indicted.

00:17:22.000 I think Trump's life is more acutely stressful than Biden's.

00:17:27.000 But in terms of the sympathy of the average voter, Biden looks like a bit of a bully here and Trump looks like the underdog.

00:17:37.000 What if just on election night or like right before they agree to debate and then quite literally

00:17:43.000 both Trump and Biden just collapse on stage? I mean it's totally possible. I'm not saying- Just

00:17:47.000 both of them and we're like wow and nobody expected that. I mean I thought Trump was pretty

00:17:50.000 good but then like you know the argument the Democrats have is yeah well Trump's old too.

00:17:57.000 People don't drop like that as much anymore.

00:17:58.000 It's not Russia, right? 0.51

00:18:00.000 They don't have gravity problems.

00:18:02.000 You haven't watched Suddenly Died, then.

00:18:05.000 I mean, Biden had a brain aneurysm in the 80s, so his late 40s.

00:18:10.000 Wow, he's young.

00:18:11.000 But he's had like 35 post-brain aneurysm, he's had more post-brain aneurysm years than I have had.

00:18:19.000 That's why he plagiarizes all the time.

00:18:20.000 He can't come up with his own stuff.

00:18:21.000 I'm born in 1990.

00:18:24.000 So he's really had, I mean, they really do keep these guys rolling.

00:18:28.000 That's why he plagiarizes all the time.

00:18:29.000 He can't come up with his own stuff.

00:18:31.000 I gotta just keep taking from the past.

00:18:33.000 Well, I actually think this is sort of my pet theory about why his thinking is so obviously

00:18:38.000 garbled.

00:18:39.000 So Trump sort of just engages in the world by just literally saying whatever he wants

00:18:44.000 and that's kind of how he's rolled for his entire life.

00:18:46.000 Bernie Sanders, our other very elderly celebrity politician, he just, you know, he's got a script.

00:18:54.000 It's always the bankers, it's always the overclass, it's always the capitalists.

00:18:59.000 Biden, by contrast, has to quadruple triangulate constantly, you know, which side of the party is not ascendant?

00:19:07.000 What thing can't I say?

00:19:09.000 Um, and I think, you know, that works when you're in your forties or your fifties, but it must be super confusing in your ninth decade.

00:19:15.000 Yeah.

00:19:16.000 It's funny.

00:19:16.000 Cause I've been thinking a lot about, uh, how Biden was on a Colbert appearance like 10 years ago.

00:19:21.000 Well, no, it was probably 2015 or 2014 before the 2016 election.

00:19:26.000 And I I've never liked Joe Biden.

00:19:29.000 Uh, I hate the crime bill. 1.00

00:19:30.000 I think he's just a thug and a liar. 0.98

00:19:32.000 Uh, but I remember feeling a bit of remorse for him in that interview. 0.99

00:19:36.000 Cause he talks about grief and rather.

00:19:39.000 Compelling way and which is shocking because that's so different than the man.

00:19:43.000 We're seeing today You know, that was a huge one because that that interview is so because he told Colbert I'm not going to run and the audience, you know, it's like oh no not you too, but uh, you know, he was capable of speaking and Not that long ago.

00:19:56.000 I mean, it was always very key to his, his approach.

00:19:59.000 I mean, Trump obviously always has a call to greatness.

00:20:03.000 There's the comedic element or more than an element to Trump.

00:20:07.000 Obama is this almost like rock star order.

00:20:09.000 Right.

00:20:10.000 You know, very smooth.

00:20:12.000 Obama, Biden, rather, you know, I believe is the NYRB who called it in no tool in 2020, who called Biden the country's designated mourner. He does actually

00:20:21.000 have this sort of gear where he's able to say this You know sort of language feel your pain. That's he ropes

00:20:28.000 his own even his celebrity family You know, he ropes in his own tragedy

00:20:33.000 To the story and one last bit. I do think that you would actually be

00:20:37.000 Weirdly cosmically fitting if Biden were to end his career with an election loss

00:20:43.000 You got to remember this is somebody who's elected to the Senate at 29, which is the youngest you can be.

00:20:47.000 He had to be 30, but he turned 30 after he was Senator-elect.

00:20:51.000 Okay, so he was at US Senate.

00:20:52.000 He loses his wife and daughter in a car accident.

00:20:56.000 He got sworn in at his children's hospital.

00:20:58.000 By the hospital, the famous picture.

00:20:59.000 Hunter was in that car, injured.

00:21:02.000 He's somebody who thought he was going to be the president in the 80s.

00:21:06.000 He has a train record for a campaign in 1988, a basic train record for a campaign in 2008.

00:21:12.000 Trump famously said that Obama rescued Biden from the scrap heap.

00:21:18.000 He becomes vice president.

00:21:19.000 He does his duty.

00:21:21.000 eight years as VP, only to have Obama sideline him and shiv him effectively

00:21:26.000 for Hillary Clinton, who then loses.

00:21:28.000 He becomes president, the oldest president in American history, 35 years after he wanted

00:21:33.000 to be the president.

00:21:34.000 What would be more parallel for his whole life than to actually lose in this unpopular world?

00:21:41.000 My argument would be that he'll actually... My gut says he will not make it.

00:21:45.000 I think he might even make it, but real quick, like, he always references James Joyce's poem about dying, and I think he could... You have to say that again.

00:21:52.000 I want to pull this up from NBC News.

00:21:55.000 This is it, the breaking news!

00:21:56.000 As of 7.09 p.m., Biden secures Democratic nomination with majority of delegates.

00:22:00.000 NBC News projects Uh, that's it.

00:22:04.000 I don't really care, but we all expected it to happen.

00:22:07.000 But this is it.

00:22:07.000 They're saying Joe Biden's going to be the guy.

00:22:09.000 No, look, a few months ago, I predicted Joe Biden would not be the guy that he would drop out.

00:22:14.000 I do not understand the play Democrats have right now with Joe Biden.

00:22:18.000 I don't understand it.

00:22:21.000 And the only thing I can see is there is no play.

00:22:24.000 You know, like, they'll make a move and I'll go, okay, so maybe this is their strategy.

00:22:28.000 The only thing I can think of right now is they're planning ahead.

00:22:32.000 They expect Biden to lose.

00:22:34.000 They don't want to throw in any other Democrat candidates who might actually lose because

00:22:39.000 it could damage their prospects after the next four years.

00:22:42.000 And so at this point, maybe Democrats are like, let's obstruct Trump moving into his

00:22:47.000 second term and let's start preparing for a new backbench that can approach the Democratic

00:22:54.000 party and go for the nomination in 2020.

00:22:56.000 Because I do not see a path to victory at all.

00:23:01.000 And, you know, Mike Cernovich tweeted something that I found very serious.

00:23:05.000 He said Trump is too far ahead at this point for 2020 tactics to work.

00:23:09.000 And I agree.

00:23:10.000 And then Cernovich said, so he expects or is worried there would be an assassination on Trump as it's the only thing at this point which stops a Trump victory.

00:23:18.000 And a Trump victory is probably going to be really, really bad for Democrats.

00:23:23.000 Because look, Trump talked about locking her up and draining the swamp, but that was all pillow talk.

00:23:30.000 He was trying to whisper sweet nothings into the ears of his base, and as soon as he gets elected, he goes, no, no, we're not going to do that.

00:23:35.000 Let's calm down.

00:23:36.000 I'd like to introduce you to my good friend John Bolton.

00:23:38.000 But they knifed him in the back anyway.

00:23:40.000 At this point, Trump's probably like, the gloves are off.

00:23:43.000 Or maybe not.

00:23:45.000 Maybe it's one big game, but I don't know.

00:23:47.000 You know, you were just saying, Shane, you think that Joe Biden's referencing this poem and he's not going to make it.

00:23:53.000 Well, I think maybe the logical thing that happens, because I could see the replacement thing happening, but I also see like he's a vessel for power for the left and they get him across the finish line and then he either bows out gracefully in quotes, you know, or he drops dead.

00:24:07.000 And then my narrative arc, like what you were saying, but just a little different, is that it would be Fitting for him to drop dead because his whole career is built around the death the mourning the grieving And in so many speeches you can go back and look at them some of them at funerals some of them The one was the last one he did before being sworn in he always references James Joyce

00:24:28.000 line about when I die, Dublin will be etched on my heart.

00:24:31.000 And so he would say, but when I die, you know, whatever, some, whatever town he's claiming to be

00:24:36.000 from that time.

00:24:36.000 Whichever one he, whichever Biden we're talking about will be etched across his heart.

00:24:41.000 What if the real conspiracy is that Trump and Biden have been working together this whole time

00:24:46.000 and Biden is playing the villain so that America can weed out its enemies.

00:24:53.000 See, the thing is, the deep state wants Trump to win, to revitalize American patriotism so that we can become strong again, but they know that if they come out and say it, you'll get opposition, so they play the opposite side, make Joe Biden the villain, but he's secretly working with Trump, and then, you know, that's why Obama was like, you don't have to do this, and Joe Biden was like, I'm gonna become the villain so that this country can succeed, and so he's gonna, you know, So the Deep State is pro-patriotism?

00:25:16.000 Yeah.

00:25:17.000 Interesting.

00:25:17.000 Oh, wow.

00:25:18.000 I don't think I've heard that one before.

00:25:19.000 My conspiracy theory is that the Deep State was like, people hate this country.

00:25:23.000 How do we get them to like it?

00:25:25.000 Well, if we just come out and say America is good, that will embolden the opposition.

00:25:29.000 They'll start attacking us.

00:25:30.000 I mean, look at Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:25:32.000 Everybody was like, screw the military-industrial complex.

00:25:35.000 So Trump comes in and represents the underdog anti-establishment, make America great again, but the bad guys who push all the most awful things, who make garbage movies, who insult this country, eventually push everyone, including Gen Z, into the hands of American patriots.

00:25:54.000 So, I mean, look, when you got Gen Z being like, yeah, I'm voting for Trump, and the latest poll was like 65% thought that Trump would do well.

00:26:01.000 I'm kidding.

00:26:02.000 I don't actually think the deep state is trying to prop up Trump.

00:26:04.000 But I'm like, if you were trying to prop up Trump, what would you do different?

00:26:09.000 They just can't stop doing what they're doing.

00:26:11.000 They're like, I got an idea.

00:26:12.000 How do we get an entire generation to want to support America, secure its borders, and defend its international interests?

00:26:20.000 Give away the inheritance of Gen Z to non-citizens. 1.00

00:26:24.000 And then they revolt, and you build an entire generation of people who are like MAGA.

00:26:28.000 Yeah, also lock them up for a couple years, put them online only, and then tank the economy.

00:26:34.000 So they feel really frustrated.

00:26:35.000 What would you do different?

00:26:37.000 And Joe Biden, I mean, they were like, we need someone deeply, deeply unlikable.

00:26:41.000 Someone who is seen on camera groping women and sniffing children, who's got a history of family corruption, and is just plainly not cool and just totally, just totally unlikable.

00:26:52.000 And they're like, we'll make him the villain.

00:26:54.000 And then we'll get the celebrity that everyone loved up until he ran.

00:26:59.000 Like, it just...

00:27:01.000 That's the only conspiracy there that makes sense at this point, otherwise...

00:27:04.000 the Uniparty is just failing.

00:27:06.000 I don't know many people who...

00:27:08.000 Many progressive or democrats who say, like, no, I think Joe Biden's a great guy.

00:27:12.000 I really respect him.

00:27:13.000 I don't know many people who talk like that, but I do know a lot of people who don't like Trump.

00:27:16.000 So in some ways, I think this idea that Joe Biden is the villain works for a certain sect of people.

00:27:22.000 But I think for other people, there is no way to spin Trump as anything other than awful and that you could put an actual sock puppet in Joe Biden's spot and they'd be like, probably would do a better job than Trump.

00:27:32.000 I just heard from a friend who said they're voting for Biden to save democracy and they said it with a straight face.

00:27:37.000 Yeah, but they don't like Biden.

00:27:38.000 They're not saying, I'm voting for Biden because I think he's inspirational, because he's got great policies, because he represents the kind of man that we'd like to see in America.

00:27:45.000 They're just like, well, no Trump.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, that's all it is.

00:27:49.000 I do think he's necessary though.

00:27:50.000 I mean, I'm not sure I fully agree.

00:27:51.000 I think he's the strongest possible Democratic nominee.

00:27:55.000 You think more so than like, and I don't like this person at all, but more so than a Gavin?

00:27:55.000 Really?

00:28:00.000 Yeah, I do.

00:28:01.000 I mean, I think, I mean, I, well, first of all, I mean, he's the, you can't underrate the sheer name recognition of Biden.

00:28:07.000 I mean, he's been in, he's been in politics for 50 years.

00:28:07.000 Right.

00:28:10.000 He's run for president three times.

00:28:11.000 Obama spin-off.

00:28:12.000 Yeah, this will be the fourth national ballot he's appeared on.

00:28:15.000 Right.

00:28:15.000 He's, you know, as vice president twice.

00:28:18.000 Yeah.

00:28:19.000 Um, and I think it's absolutely necessary for the essential fiction of the pitch, uh, that they're presenting forward, which is that, uh, the Democrats are actually are not a radical party.

00:28:29.000 Um, that they have this sort of kindly old white man centrist from 1995.

00:28:35.000 Um, and it's very critical in these, you know, suburban districts, uh, that he's not that scary.

00:28:41.000 If they put someone like Gavin Newsom, for instance, uh, the entire election will instantly become a referendum on California.

00:28:47.000 Yeah.

00:28:48.000 And so they will run endless needle pictures from San Francisco.

00:28:51.000 And I think people understand that California is terribly run.

00:28:56.000 That is the ruination of paradise.

00:28:59.000 But what about Michelle Obama?

00:29:01.000 Was she particularly likable in office?

00:29:04.000 Everyone's being sort of memory-holed on this.

00:29:08.000 I don't think her approval rating was that high as First Lady.

00:29:11.000 Interesting.

00:29:12.000 I think Biden's clearly a better politician than Hillary Clinton.

00:29:15.000 I feel like Gavin's been trying to clean up his act, and people do have, unfortunately, a short memory.

00:29:20.000 I think he's savvy.

00:29:22.000 He's apologizing.

00:29:23.000 I'm not underrating him, but I think there's two main problems.

00:29:27.000 One, the California albatross, which they will run on and Trump will like running on

00:29:31.000 it.

00:29:32.000 And then number two, it is not demonstrated, we talked about how narrow the margins were

00:29:36.000 in 2020.

00:29:37.000 It is not demonstrated that Newsom, especially somebody who did not go through the primary,

00:29:41.000 the primary is over.

00:29:42.000 It is not demonstrated that Newsom has a particular relationship with African American voters.

00:29:47.000 That is going to be the key for the turnout of the Democrats.

00:29:51.000 Is Newsom going to be able to turn out black voters in Phoenix, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta, and Vegas?

00:29:57.000 And black voters love Joe Biden.

00:29:58.000 Correct.

00:29:59.000 Because when he said, if you don't vote for me, you're not black, they were like, well, that... He literally got away with it. 0.62

00:30:05.000 I don't think Newsom would get away with that.

00:30:07.000 What did you think of Dean Phillips' campaign?

00:30:09.000 Because he tried to spin himself as like the future, the moderate, you know, an alternative to sort of a drifting Joe Biden administration.

00:30:16.000 I think if you care to watch Phillips interview, like there's a Phillips interview with Bill Maher, he's actually pretty smooth.

00:30:24.000 And he's young and he's successful.

00:30:26.000 And so I think Phillips is essentially mini Gavin Newsom.

00:30:26.000 But he got 1%.

00:30:31.000 I think Newsom would run against, would hit a similar wall.

00:30:35.000 I have a simple answer to your question about why not Dean Phillips, and it's... who?

00:30:41.000 It wasn't not why not Dean Phillips, it's what did you think of his campaign?

00:30:43.000 That was his slogan.

00:30:44.000 Who?

00:30:45.000 He literally said who, I think it was the picture.

00:30:47.000 He was open to the fact that he like...

00:30:51.000 I thought maybe he could win, but also acknowledged it was a long shot.

00:30:54.000 And I think he's interesting because we had several prominent politicians come out and sort of argue the moderate ticket, right?

00:31:01.000 This is what Manchin was saying.

00:31:02.000 Maybe I could be a unity ticket in a couple of years.

00:31:04.000 And Dean Phillips didn't opt to run as an independent like JFK.

00:31:07.000 He ran as a Democrat saying, we need a change.

00:31:10.000 And he immediately backed Joe Biden as soon as he entered his campaign.

00:31:12.000 You know the problem with these politicians?

00:31:15.000 Dean Phillips could have easily become the frontrunner.

00:31:18.000 I strongly believe that any... That's the guy who made Talenti!

00:31:22.000 That's so popular!

00:31:24.000 Maybe not Newsom, but Dean Phillips could if he did something like, I don't know, handcuff himself to the doors of the Twitter HQ in New York or something like that.

00:31:31.000 Or X Corp.

00:31:32.000 And what I mean is, he did no Big Bang PR moves.

00:31:36.000 Nothing.

00:31:38.000 So it's almost like, did you really try, dude?

00:31:40.000 Because Laura Loomer handcuffed herself to Twitter HQ at the time and made herself the number one, I think, worldwide trend on the platform that banned her. 1.00

00:31:50.000 And then she took illegal immigrants, sorry, criminal aliens, and jumped over Nancy Pelosi's walls. 1.00

00:31:55.000 I'm not suggesting Dean Phillips literally take criminal aliens and jump into Nancy Pelosi's house.

00:31:59.000 I'm saying he did nothing!

00:32:02.000 To do a big bang, here I am on the stage.

00:32:05.000 He literally, I guess, I didn't even know his slogan was who.

00:32:08.000 His plan was, I will revel in the fact that I am an unknown and have no chance whatsoever in any way.

00:32:16.000 I think he was gambling that Biden was going to collapse.

00:32:18.000 And I think he was also, he was uber flattered by the Wall Street money.

00:32:22.000 I mean, Bill Ackman, the sort of, you know, very famous Wall Street tycoon.

00:32:26.000 They threw money at him.

00:32:27.000 I think they thought some sort of organic groundswell would occur, and it didn't happen.

00:32:33.000 And I think he's trying to get out in front of Newsom.

00:32:37.000 See, I think he's trying to soft get out in front of Newsom.

00:32:39.000 He doesn't want to challenge Biden too directly, but he does want to set the stage for, you know, 2028 when possibly he has more name recognition because he ran now.

00:32:47.000 True, true.

00:32:48.000 Fair point.

00:32:48.000 We won't be talking about Mr. Phillips in 2028.

00:32:52.000 I don't think we'll be talking about Mr. Phillips in 2028.

00:32:54.000 Due respect to the good congressman.

00:32:56.000 What if he took those suction cup things and climbed Trump Tower?

00:32:59.000 That could have worked.

00:33:01.000 Everyone would know his name then.

00:33:03.000 Do you think you could suction cup climb Trump Tower?

00:33:06.000 Me?

00:33:06.000 Yeah.

00:33:07.000 I mean if it was like life or death.

00:33:09.000 At least the presidency or not.

00:33:11.000 Is that enough of a motivation to risk it?

00:33:13.000 I would run from Trump Tower.

00:33:14.000 I don't want to go anywhere near the presidency. 0.96

00:33:16.000 But for someone like Dean Phillips, again, I'm not, it's meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek and silly. 0.87

00:33:21.000 I know.

00:33:22.000 My point is, he did nothing on the level of climbing with suction cups.

00:33:26.000 Remember that guy who did that?

00:33:27.000 I was there in New York.

00:33:28.000 I went there to watch it.

00:33:29.000 He's a pro though, right?

00:33:30.000 Which one?

00:33:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:30.000 There's the one who does it for like abortion rights.

00:33:32.000 Oh no, no, I think I was there when the guy, I think I was there when the guy climbed the tower desperately trying to talk to Trump.

00:33:37.000 He was like, I'm a big fan.

00:33:38.000 I'm a Trump supporter.

00:33:39.000 I need to talk to him.

00:33:39.000 This guy had some suction cup skills, right?

00:33:43.000 I don't think I don't think you actually need skill.

00:33:46.000 I would want some training.

00:33:47.000 Yeah, I need to know what I mean is like, I'm sure he learned how to use them.

00:33:51.000 I don't think he was like a pro suction cup guy and he made it because you just you you press the button and then it's like it doesn't move and then you just Are you cemented to the cup?

00:34:00.000 Right, that's the hard part, is keeping your hands like this.

00:34:02.000 Like, ice climbers, they have to work with that grip a lot.

00:34:05.000 Yeah, I suppose if I'm glued to it.

00:34:06.000 But then you make it to Trump, and then you have these things glued to your hands?

00:34:08.000 No, you're standing.

00:34:09.000 You're standing straight up.

00:34:10.000 And you can lift it, and kick it, and... yeah.

00:34:13.000 Okay, this is more... Anyway, why are we talking about this?

00:34:15.000 A good suggestion for Dean Phillips, if he wants to make his name... We're trying to help him out!

00:34:19.000 Get a skywriter to write Dean Phillips!

00:34:21.000 I mean, anything, dude!

00:34:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:23.000 But so so what do you think happens?

00:34:24.000 Well, so then what do you think Trump wins?

00:34:26.000 What do you think?

00:34:28.000 The general election?

00:34:28.000 Yeah.

00:34:30.000 I think it is Trump's to lose.

00:34:32.000 I think they've got to be super careful, though, because I think something could happen the next eight months.

00:34:38.000 And so what are the Republicans offering?

00:34:42.000 I mean, if they if they keep to the baseline issues that won him the nomination in the presidency in 16, and in my view that is immigration, trade, and foreign policy, and they mess his discipline that to the hills, the border.

00:34:58.000 Jobs going to China, and we should get out of these foreign wars. 0.96

00:35:01.000 He will win the election.

00:35:02.000 If it is a hodgepodge of weird Republican hobby horses, and there's no measured discipline, honestly, closer to the 2020 effort, right?

00:35:12.000 I mean, it was kind of doomed from the Keebumeric. 1.00

00:35:14.000 CAG, remember this?

00:35:17.000 He's better as an opposition candidate.

00:35:18.000 Yeah.

00:35:19.000 I mean, he's a poster.

00:35:21.000 He's a critic.

00:35:22.000 He always was, even before Twitter.

00:35:25.000 This is, this is naturally advantageous for him, and the indictments themselves do seem to have sharpened him.

00:35:30.000 I mean, we were commenting before the show, the man's lost weight, he seems funnier than he did four years ago, his mood seems elevated.

00:35:36.000 Most people who've been indicted 95 times, I feel like, would be- They have a funny sense of- Yeah, Trump thrives on this.

00:35:44.000 And so if he can stay disciplined, I mean even the tone that he struck after winning the Iowa caucus was very magnanimous.

00:35:53.000 He talked about his father-in-law back in Slovenia, I believe the man's wife had just died.

00:36:00.000 It was statesman-like.

00:36:03.000 But if it is just like this, you know, whirlwind of complaints and then like, you know, one weird Republican initiative after another where they get mired into talking about, you know, tax cuts for the rich or cutting Social Security, it's going to make Trump's brand less independent for the GOP.

00:36:19.000 Trump is stronger than the Republican brand himself.

00:36:22.000 Let's jump to this story.

00:36:23.000 We have a tweet from Libs of TikTok.

00:36:25.000 This is interesting.

00:36:26.000 Libs tweets.

00:36:27.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:36:27.000 Biden reportedly invited TikTok influencers to State of the Union and gave them a list of talking points to create content on to spread propaganda for him and boost him. 0.71

00:36:37.000 Check it out.

00:36:37.000 I'll play just a little bit of this video.

00:36:40.000 Joe Biden invited 70 influencers to view his State of the Union address in order to- I was one of the 70 influencers that was invited, so let me spill all the tea with you.

00:36:49.000 So I got this message, I want to say on Monday night.

00:36:52.000 So I got an email from an agency and I saw the people that were CC'd on and I didn't recognize any of the other email addresses that were CC'd on to this invite.

00:37:00.000 So essentially they were like, we'd love to have you at this like watch party, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:03.000 But they just said it was like a watch party for the state of union address, blah, blah, blah, whatever it's called.

00:37:09.000 So I'm not super political on this platform for one reason.

00:37:13.000 I'm going to skip over the next part.

00:37:14.000 She just talks about work content and stuff.

00:37:16.000 Is when Biden, which is what this original creator was talking about, was when Biden was like, yo, if TikTok is going to get banned, I would totally sign on that.

00:37:23.000 Hard stop.

00:37:24.000 Right.

00:37:24.000 I was like, Ooh, no, absolutely not.

00:37:26.000 After Biden has used TikTok to campaign certain things recently anyway. 1.00

00:37:30.000 So I was like, you're full of crap. 0.98

00:37:32.000 Um, so I don't go right. 0.99

00:37:34.000 And I just kind of leave it on red.

00:37:36.000 And then right at that time too, the agency was like, here's all the concept briefs of your posting.

00:37:40.000 And so that's something that we do as influencers.

00:37:42.000 When we have brand deals and we have sponsorships, we have these things called concept briefs.

00:37:46.000 And it's all these approved talking points that we can make videos about afterwards.

00:37:50.000 I didn't know that posting was, like, asked.

00:37:52.000 It wasn't asked in the original invite.

00:37:54.000 Felt really gross about it, so I was like, oh, is there, like, a budget for this?

00:37:57.000 Like, this has to be, like, wildly talked about with my team. 0.98

00:38:00.000 Like, we're not really going through this, like, right now, an hour before the fucking event. 0.99

00:38:04.000 This is crazy. 0.93

00:38:05.000 So they're like, no, we don't have a posting requirement.

00:38:07.000 We just really encourage everyone to do that.

00:38:09.000 So then I've been getting emails, like, since the event to, like, post on one of these talking points.

00:38:14.000 Haven't answered any of them.

00:38:16.000 Um, so on all platforms that I have, TikTok and Instagram and all these things, right?

00:38:21.000 I have about a little bit over 400K followers.

00:38:24.000 Pretty small in the grand scheme of public figures that you all know today.

00:38:28.000 So if you think about my size of following, I was invited to this to basically boost Joe Biden and his voice.

00:38:36.000 Think about the people that you look up to that are high public figures that all of a sudden get into political activism.

00:38:41.000 Think about if it's actually authentic or not, or if they're getting things out of it, they're being celebrated to do that, they're being paid to do that, right?

00:38:48.000 Think about that.

00:38:49.000 So we had the famous moment, it was the 2016 campaign when Casey Neistat, who is the godfather of the modern vlog, endorsing Hillary Clinton.

00:38:58.000 And he went on later to say he regretted doing it.

00:39:02.000 And I can only assume it's paid marketing.

00:39:05.000 Agencies say, we want you to advertise this message and we will pay you a lot of money.

00:39:11.000 So, I do think it's fascinating.

00:39:13.000 As for the concept briefs thing, I, I have not, I am unfamiliar with that.

00:39:19.000 I've been working in this industry for, I mean, I've been in the internet for a long time, working with social media for 15 years and producing content and sponsored stuff for 13 years.

00:39:34.000 And I, I've not heard that phrase concept brief, I suppose.

00:39:39.000 I've, I, and I've gone to like brand meetings where we talk about like content that could be made.

00:39:43.000 I was never referred to that way.

00:39:44.000 I don't know.

00:39:45.000 I've heard it before, but only for like, here is a specific water bottle you're promoting, and here are the things you should point out about it.

00:39:51.000 Yeah, but we get sponsored spots, and we're just told like, no one's ever said, here's your concept brief to me.

00:39:58.000 They say like, we have content we want made, and here's what it is.

00:40:03.000 So I understand what she's saying, I just, I don't know.

00:40:06.000 I think it's probably semantics.

00:40:08.000 We get told things like, here are five things we think are great about the product.

00:40:11.000 Put it in your own words, is usually what we're told.

00:40:13.000 So I think that's basically what you're referring to.

00:40:15.000 And maybe, I don't know, hers is more of an official mainstream like ad agency stuff.

00:40:19.000 That's why they use the term I'm not familiar with.

00:40:21.000 But there it is for you, ladies and gentlemen.

00:40:24.000 400,000 followers.

00:40:25.000 I wonder what the budget was.

00:40:26.000 I wonder how much she was offering.

00:40:27.000 She didn't say, did she?

00:40:28.000 I don't think she mentioned how much money they were offering her.

00:40:31.000 This is the secret, though.

00:40:32.000 When she mentions that, think of the higher profile people and what they're paid to, I don't think, whether it's authentic or not, I don't think they're paid, actually.

00:40:39.000 When celebrities say stuff like, you gotta vote for Biden, it's more so they want to get invited to the party.

00:40:44.000 When someone has, like, 400k followers, that's the real target.

00:40:49.000 Because in the event that any one of them talks, like this, irrelevant.

00:40:54.000 This is one person with 400k followers.

00:40:56.000 Sure, fine, but it won't go viral.

00:40:58.000 You choose one guy with a billion followers, you know, like 30 million followers, and if they decide they don't like you and they go on and go, yo, this dude's trying to pay me to endorse him, screw that guy! 0.87

00:41:08.000 Backfire!

00:41:10.000 You find 70 influencers that have a couple hundred K, a couple million.

00:41:14.000 I mean, look, she got 400 K, there were 70 influencers.

00:41:16.000 They're targeting about 30 million.

00:41:18.000 And when she comes out and says, that was me, how many people actually know or care?

00:41:22.000 This video from Libs of TikTok has 171,000 views.

00:41:25.000 So that's the point.

00:41:27.000 You want a shotgun blast spread out to minimize backlash and maximize reach.

00:41:34.000 I don't think it was YouTubers.

00:41:35.000 They gave all the YouTubers an attitude for showing up to the White House. 0.59

00:41:40.000 I think even you were there.

00:41:41.000 Remember when Trump invited the YouTubers and social media people to the White House?

00:41:45.000 I don't think it was YouTubers.

00:41:46.000 Oh, it wasn't?

00:41:47.000 I thought it was a lot of YouTubers.

00:41:49.000 So it was a lot of personalities who were invited to go to the social media summit.

00:41:54.000 I don't think there were a lot of YouTubers.

00:41:56.000 Biden probably invited YouTubers.

00:41:59.000 I went because I was friends with Bill Ottman, who was CEO of Minds.com.

00:42:02.000 And Minds was invited to participate in the social media conference.

00:42:05.000 And then I just think it's funny how much grief everyone got from that.

00:42:08.000 And now this stuff like this is happening.

00:42:09.000 They're like, on the left, they want this.

00:42:12.000 They should be paid.

00:42:13.000 Harry Sisson should be paid.

00:42:14.000 All these people, the Krasinski's, I don't know what they're up to. 1.00

00:42:17.000 Biden's constantly pulling in influencers.

00:42:19.000 I mean, this is a big part of his youth outreach.

00:42:21.000 I mean, let's not forget, I cannot remember the guy's name, but he did this video that went viral.

00:42:25.000 He was saying a day in life of someone who works at the White House.

00:42:29.000 It was when Jen Psaki was still there and the right hated it. 0.72

00:42:33.000 The left loved it.

00:42:34.000 They had, I mean, they got tons of exposure for their pride celebration.

00:42:39.000 But again, the right was like, why are you, why do you have topless trans people on the lawn? 0.95

00:42:44.000 I forgot about that.

00:42:45.000 You know, I mean, they, I don't know how effective influencer marketing really is for the Biden campaign, except they think they just push enough, the good will outweigh the bad, they'll talk to enough people.

00:42:55.000 And I'm not an expert in the field, I can't say on the numbers like what that's doing for them.

00:42:59.000 I just know that a lot of the time when we see these sort of weird cultural cracks in the Biden administration, it's often delivered to us through influencers who they have invited to events.

00:43:07.000 I mean, remember they invited Dylan Mulvaney to the White House to talk about, you know, Trans Day of Divisibility or something.

00:43:12.000 Women's issues.

00:43:14.000 I think it's all backfiring on him.

00:43:15.000 I mean, you look at the polls.

00:43:17.000 Gen Z is for Trump, I think. 1.00

00:43:20.000 It's the economy, stupid. 1.00

00:43:22.000 So you can play these games all day and night and get your influencers and sure, you'll find weird, cult-y young people who are... You know what I think? 1.00

00:43:30.000 I think there's a lot of young people who are going online.

00:43:32.000 I mean, look at this.

00:43:33.000 She says, I don't really get political.

00:43:35.000 Her channel is about the frustrations of corporate America.

00:43:38.000 And then she's like, like basically Biden bad, is the general thesis here.

00:43:43.000 I think that you might find there are going to be influencers who say things like, yeah, you know, I totally agree with that.

00:43:50.000 And then as soon as they hang up their phone, turn the camera off or whatever they go, no way I'm voting Trump.

00:43:54.000 I'll tell you this, one of the most offensive things that I've heard quite a bit is that there are prominent celebrities who are anti-Trump, who are privately bragging about voting for him.

00:44:05.000 It's for real.

00:44:07.000 And it's not my place to name these individuals because I have sources who are insistent on not exposing who these individuals are, which I'm not a fan of, but I have to respect the privacy of the individuals who are revealing the information.

00:44:21.000 You know, and keep them out of harm's way, but there are people who are celebrities in Hollywood who hit me up and

00:44:25.000 they'll say things like, Hey, this dude is a huge Trump supporter.

00:44:28.000 And then I'm like, but he's on, he's going on shows and TV saying Trump is bad.

00:44:32.000 They're like, oh yeah, but he wants the money.

00:44:34.000 He wants the tax cuts.

00:44:35.000 He wants Trump, like, all the way.

00:44:37.000 It's all about reputation for them.

00:44:38.000 Yep.

00:44:39.000 And I think it depends on what, what the influence or the person is doing.

00:44:42.000 Like, I remember there was a sleep consultant, like, mommy lifestyle, whatever.

00:44:48.000 Her Instagram account was taking care of, like, the woman's name babies. 0.95

00:44:52.000 And I knew People I went to high school with who paid for her, like, sleep training manual or something like that.

00:44:58.000 And then it came out that her family had donated, like, she and her husband had been contributing to Trump's campaign, and there was an effort to boycott her.

00:45:04.000 Wow.

00:45:05.000 This was, I think, during 2020.

00:45:06.000 And I don't even know if she ever addressed it, but it was interesting that, like, she's giving you legitimate information that's completely nonpolitical.

00:45:14.000 I mean, I guess children in some ways are political, but, like, this is how you help your child learn to get into the rhythm of sleeping.

00:45:19.000 Right.

00:45:19.000 And you want to boycott her, not because you don't like her product, not because you think she promotes anything dangerous, but because she privately, without mentioning it on her platform, donated to Trump.

00:45:27.000 Political opinions immediately invalidated anything that person has said before.

00:45:31.000 Right!

00:45:32.000 It's so crazy that it went that level.

00:45:34.000 Like, if she was promoting some sort of political agenda, I could get it, but this is completely irrelevant to the thing you're upset about.

00:45:40.000 The product you're buying from her. 0.87

00:45:41.000 Crazy.

00:45:42.000 Remember when Mark Zuckerberg had barbecue sauce on his shelf? 0.60

00:45:46.000 I question that.

00:45:47.000 I don't question someone's political opinions.

00:45:48.000 I'm like, if there's like someone who, I'm thinking about this woman who's talking about taking care of babies or whatever it is, and then you passively find out there's like a Trump hat in the background, and they're like, oh, everything she's ever done has gone to question, I'm like, well, the Trump hat I get.

00:46:00.000 It's the barbecue sauce on the shelf I don't get.

00:46:02.000 Well, that just is deranged, whereas this is like... What is wrong with this man?

00:46:07.000 Well, it was just weird.

00:46:08.000 Like, for a while after that, Brett Dasviks, who's on Pop Culture Crisis, I would, like, bring him my Sweet Baby Ray's, like, barbecue packages.

00:46:15.000 This is, like, for you, my friend.

00:46:16.000 Okay, like, to be honest, like, maybe he went grocery shopping and he, like... He just put it on his bookshelf?

00:46:21.000 Right, he put it on his bookshelf for some reason.

00:46:22.000 What?

00:46:23.000 You think his bookshelf is so close to his kitchen that he got confused?

00:46:26.000 Like, did he short-circuit?

00:46:27.000 I don't... I don't buy this at all.

00:46:28.000 But again, okay, that sparks the bit like someone having a Trump adage, but someone having a Biden had to go. Oh, yeah,

00:46:33.000 I get that. I understand the motivations and ideas behind those things. I wouldn't I, if I'm watching a guy and he's

00:46:39.000 like, here's how you apply like, vinyl flooring. And then he's like, it's like playing elevator music as he's like,

00:46:44.000 take the vinyl flooring piece and click it in before pressing it down. And he's wearing a Biden shirt. I'd be

00:46:48.000 like, Well, yeah, I get it. I don't care. I mean, he's helping me put my floor together. Right. But but man,

00:46:53.000 people, he probably put it together wrong and biasly because he voted for Biden, you know, actually,

00:46:57.000 That's the equivalent of what they said about this girl who's giving you parenting advice.

00:47:01.000 Like, well, probably she's going to make your child a white supremacist because she privately supports Trump. 1.00

00:47:07.000 I mean, I think this is obviously an investment in two ideas.

00:47:15.000 One, the Democrats have now become the party that believes that polling might not work.

00:47:19.000 So let's rewind 2012.

00:47:21.000 Do you remember the term poll bias?

00:47:23.000 The Republicans had this entire cottage industry that basically tried to quote, un-skew the polls.

00:47:29.000 There was a guy called the un-skew-the-polls.com thing.

00:47:31.000 No, I don't know.

00:47:32.000 This is the sort of thing.

00:47:34.000 Twelve years ago.

00:47:35.000 Twelve years ago.

00:47:36.000 This is the extreme end of why Romney HQ thought that we win the election, that basically the polls are, are fake.

00:47:42.000 Um, and, uh, or there's, there's poll bias against Republicans.

00:47:46.000 And so if there's a poll that says that Obama's up to the Republicans are really up for, or something like this, that is, you know, people were being canceled even back then for being Republicans or something like that.

00:47:56.000 They're saying the poll bias was keeping Mitt Romney down.

00:47:58.000 Right, right.

00:47:58.000 And then in 2016, after the 2012 was basically the polling was right, more or less, the Democrats, you know, Uber believed that they would, you know, hold the White House and the Republicans, you know, even the elite Republicans didn't believe that Trump would win, or particularly the elite Republicans against the state.

00:48:20.000 Trump won.

00:48:21.000 Uh, and you know, this, this cycle kind of repeated, uh, assuming that the Republicans, uh, were understated in both the polls.

00:48:29.000 In 2020, Trump was understated in both the polls.

00:48:32.000 Uh, it was meaningful enough in 2016, uh, that he became the president.

00:48:37.000 Fast forward 2024, the Democrats, the shoe is totally on the other foot.

00:48:41.000 Trump is in his strongest polling position that he has been since a politician.

00:48:46.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:48:48.000 His name recognition has never been higher, and you would think that Americans would have had their minds made up one way or the other on Mr. Trump.

00:48:57.000 Not so.

00:48:58.000 He is at the highest point.

00:49:01.000 He's at the apex of his polling career.

00:49:03.000 It's subtle.

00:49:03.000 These are thousands of votes in small states, but he's in the whip position, in command post, politically speaking.

00:49:13.000 Accordingly, the Democrats have to invest in another idea, the power of advertising.

00:49:19.000 We don't know if any of this stuff is going to work, but it doesn't mean that people have to vote for Biden.

00:49:26.000 They just have to merely convince people to stay home.

00:49:29.000 And I think that's what you're seeing with this sort of subtle entreaties.

00:49:32.000 Additionally, Biden's own conception of young people is like everybody under 65 or 55 or 40.

00:49:41.000 I mean, he really has no idea.

00:49:43.000 I mean, boomers, baby boomers themselves still treat millennials as if they are like 18.

00:49:49.000 This, I don't know how old this particular influencer is, but if she's Gen Z, I believe she's like 22, 23. 0.86

00:49:54.000 You know, it's utterly pedantic.

00:49:58.000 And in some ways, Influencers often fall into this trap themselves.

00:50:03.000 I mean, there's a bit of a verbal tick that she said, the State of the Union address or whatever, like her lack of confidence.

00:50:09.000 She actually got it right.

00:50:11.000 Like, why did you just say the State of the Union address?

00:50:13.000 And I think it creates this complex where they think they can profit.

00:50:17.000 Just spilling the tea and leaving them on read, all the Gen Z slang. 0.98

00:50:21.000 And it's more transparent advertising, whereas, like, when Obama was doing it, he was adopting this new tech, and it seemed, like, you know, genuine to everyone, because, oh, look, he's doing all this stuff.

00:50:30.000 No, we're in a much more nihilistic, cynical age.

00:50:32.000 Yeah, yeah, totally.

00:50:34.000 No one's buying it like they were back then.

00:50:36.000 I mean, the Obama campaign slogan was forward.

00:50:39.000 Hope?

00:50:40.000 Forward in 2012.

00:50:40.000 Hope and change in 2008, and then when everything wasn't so great in that first term, it was just like, well, forward.

00:50:48.000 This is an interesting concept you brought up, though, that boomers still treat millennials like they're 18.

00:50:48.000 Forget that!

00:50:54.000 Yes.

00:50:55.000 And, yeah, absolutely.

00:50:56.000 Obviously not every single boomer, but...

00:50:58.000 Many of them.

00:50:59.000 And there was a meme for a while where Millennials were like, Boomers!

00:51:04.000 We're 40!

00:51:05.000 We're 40 years old!

00:51:06.000 But for some reason, the narrative coming out of a lot of these old school media people who still have control of the reins while they do, was that like, why are Millennials like this or like that?

00:51:18.000 And the response from Millennials were like, I'm 38 years old. 0.57

00:51:21.000 I don't know why you're talking to me like this.

00:51:23.000 You know.

00:51:24.000 Well, and if they are like this or that, I'm largely thinking it's because we have a boomer class that said, you're all children.

00:51:30.000 So we expect you to act that way.

00:51:31.000 So they rose to the occasion and acted like children and didn't take on responsibilities and don't want to have families and want to be in sort of perpetual young adulthood adolescence for a long time.

00:51:39.000 I mean, maybe boomers should take some responsibility for some of our cultural woes here. 1.00

00:51:44.000 It's pretty wild.

00:51:45.000 You know, for the longest time, millennials were I just generally the concept that The boomers, for whatever reason, view themselves as adults.

00:51:56.000 And one of the things that's really fascinating to me is whenever I find myself in a situation with someone who's older, they say, you're very young.

00:52:03.000 And I'm like, I am 38.

00:52:05.000 Like I am like quite literally life expectancy in this country is 73 for males.

00:52:10.000 So, you know, when I jokingly say I'm halfway there, it's like only a half joke.

00:52:14.000 And then I have older people, boomers say, Oh, get out of here.

00:52:17.000 You're a young man and stuff like that.

00:52:18.000 I'm 38, dude, I'm not young!

00:52:20.000 They're saying that to convince themselves otherwise.

00:52:21.000 Right, I was going to say, if you're not young, then they are very very old.

00:52:25.000 Self-justifying for their power.

00:52:26.000 I mean, if you're going to run a gerontocratic society, you have to have this idea like, well, they'll get their turn.

00:52:34.000 So what do you call it, geriatric?

00:52:36.000 Gerontocratic.

00:52:37.000 Gerontocracy.

00:52:39.000 Rule by the old, so the conjugation would be gerontocratic. 0.72

00:52:42.000 This is what we currently have going on, it's become a joke, where there's a meme where it's an old lady and she says something like, when I was your age, we used to listen to 8-track.

00:52:52.000 And then the young woman goes, that's nice grandma, let me get you to the Senate. 1.00

00:52:55.000 Like, it is, yeah, like, you know, we got, bring in the wheelchair, okay. 1.00

00:53:00.000 There was one joke where it's like, I can't remember which comedian did this, but he was like, you know, my grandfather's getting on in his life, and his memory's not so good.

00:53:09.000 We find him struggling to walk, and he's not using a wheelchair, so we think it's time to put him in Congress.

00:53:16.000 But for real, why is this happening?

00:53:19.000 That in the United States, we have this Stunted generational world.

00:53:24.000 Look, we talk about how, I've jokingly said that time stopped in the 90s, or the 90s or the last decade.

00:53:32.000 After the 90s, everything started to bleed into one.

00:53:36.000 And boomers have maintained, and again, I'm not ragging on the entirety of the boomer generation, but many, many baby boomers in positions of power maintained that they are adults and millennials are children.

00:53:46.000 And now we are quite literally experiencing, very much so, many millennials who act like children.

00:53:52.000 Who talk about, you know, they're in their 30s.

00:53:57.000 It's like Seth Rogen.

00:53:58.000 I mean, he's a man-child. 0.99

00:54:00.000 I'm not trying to be a dick to him, but he is. 0.98

00:54:01.000 He's like, Saturday morning, I'm gonna sleep in all day! 0.92

00:54:05.000 And what's her face?

00:54:06.000 And he's Gen X. Chelsea Handler.

00:54:08.000 Chelsea Handler.

00:54:09.000 Permanent children who have been like, there is no responsibility that I should have to engage in. 1.00

00:54:15.000 I accept nothing.

00:54:17.000 Look, as the saying goes, society grows great when, I believe the saying was when old men plant trees, but we'll say old people because we're very progressive, plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit beneath. 0.71

00:54:29.000 But we're quite literally at the point where people like Seth Rogen, people who are in their early to late to mid 40s now, Gen X and older millennials are quite literally saying, don't look at me.

00:54:42.000 I'm going to party until the sun comes down.

00:54:44.000 What does that mean for the future of this country?

00:54:46.000 It's deforming for everybody.

00:54:48.000 I mean, this is not normal.

00:54:51.000 I mean, the man is too old for this office.

00:54:54.000 Joe Biden?

00:54:55.000 I think so.

00:54:55.000 Oh, come on.

00:54:56.000 Look, Dianne Feinstein didn't even know she was hospitalized. 1.00

00:55:00.000 She was like, what do you mean?

00:55:01.000 I've been here the whole time.

00:55:02.000 And they're like, ma'am, you were in the hospital.

00:55:03.000 How long were you in the hospital?

00:55:04.000 For three months or something?

00:55:05.000 No, longer.

00:55:08.000 She did this long rehab and stuff.

00:55:10.000 She also, her team put out a statement saying she is going to resign.

00:55:14.000 And then later was like, I didn't say that to a reporter.

00:55:17.000 And they had to be like, No, yes, you did.

00:55:19.000 I gotta be honest.

00:55:20.000 Maybe it's that boomers are right. 1.00

00:55:21.000 And millennials are children. 0.77

00:55:24.000 Yes, but boomers have original sin. 0.99

00:55:26.000 They're the ones who did it first.

00:55:27.000 So, I mean, we might be bearing the symptoms of this when they cast the first stone.

00:55:33.000 But you mean that millennials helped?

00:55:34.000 I mean, there's not a conspiracy, but the reality is, I think, we have a leadership class.

00:55:40.000 Mr. Biden is an affluent individual.

00:55:42.000 Feinstein was a multimillionaire, I believe.

00:55:45.000 And the reality is, it's not like people are going to have these strokes or die.

00:55:49.000 This stuff all happens, but they can keep Older, wealthier Americans, in general, alive and kicking for like 30 years longer than they used to be.

00:55:58.000 But are you saying that boomers refusing to hand over the reins of society resulted in stunted millennials?

00:56:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:56:05.000 There's been no changing of the guard.

00:56:06.000 I mean, go back to 2008 when Mr. Biden was selected as vice president.

00:56:10.000 One of the qualifications that was cited was that, oh, there's no way Biden will run for president in 2016.

00:56:15.000 He ran for president in 2020!

00:56:17.000 But he didn't run in 2016.

00:56:20.000 Hold on.

00:56:23.000 What's stopping millennials from rising to the occasion?

00:56:26.000 I think they refuse to do it.

00:56:28.000 Well, I mean, first of all, the older generations have most of the wealth and most of the name recognition.

00:56:35.000 I mean, because they had these positions of power.

00:56:36.000 There's been no change of the guard.

00:56:38.000 I mean, this is totally ahistorical.

00:56:40.000 In 1960, Kennedy is elected president.

00:56:44.000 Kennedy runs against Nixon.

00:56:46.000 Everybody forgets.

00:56:46.000 Nixon and Kennedy are the same age, even though Nixon looks a lot more haggard than the model aesthetics of Kennedy.

00:56:55.000 And it was a clear move.

00:56:56.000 This is the first generation that had served in the infantry in World War II.

00:57:01.000 Eisenhower, his predecessor, had been a general.

00:57:03.000 JFK had been a soldier.

00:57:06.000 It proceeded from there.

00:57:08.000 Kennedy and Reagan were the same age, right?

00:57:10.000 Reagan looked a lot older because he became the president 20 years later.

00:57:14.000 H.W.

00:57:15.000 was the last of that generation.

00:57:16.000 30 years.

00:57:18.000 Big generation, longest period of time.

00:57:20.000 H.W.

00:57:21.000 to Clinton.

00:57:21.000 That's the beginning of the boomers.

00:57:23.000 Clinton is the great sort of center-left boomer president and George W. Bush is the great sort of center-right boomer president.

00:57:29.000 Then it transferred to Obama, who is technically boomer, but kind of codes Gen X. It's controversial.

00:57:34.000 There should have been a handoff then.

00:57:36.000 What do we do then?

00:57:37.000 We actually go back 15 years.

00:57:40.000 Hillary Clinton is born in 1947.

00:57:42.000 Trump, for all of, you know, those good things said about him, is 1946.

00:57:46.000 He's a silent generation, right? 1.00

00:57:47.000 He's boomer.

00:57:48.000 Early boomer.

00:57:53.000 George W. Bush, Clinton, and Trump are all born within 60 days of each other in the summer of 1946.

00:57:57.000 Obama's a boomer.

00:57:59.000 What a fun statistic to know.

00:58:00.000 Obama's a boomer.

00:58:02.000 Obama is technically a boomer.

00:58:03.000 But he pretends he's not.

00:58:04.000 But I feel like he codes Gen X. Right, right, right.

00:58:07.000 He's hip, he's cool, he has younger children.

00:58:08.000 He likes Kendrick Lamar.

00:58:09.000 Yeah.

00:58:09.000 Right, right.

00:58:10.000 Well, and his kids are younger.

00:58:11.000 I think that's one of the things.

00:58:12.000 Like, for instance, take another, you know, David Duchovny, the X-Files actor?

00:58:16.000 Yeah, of course.

00:58:16.000 Does he seem more boomer or Gen X?

00:58:18.000 Well, I watch Twin Peaks, so I know he's older.

00:58:20.000 Me too.

00:58:21.000 But I feel like he fuels a little bit.

00:58:22.000 Gen X-y.

00:58:23.000 It's sort of BS-y.

00:58:25.000 But my point is, the early 60s birthday people can often code that way, as opposed to the core boomer people are generally the people who were born in the 1950s.

00:58:33.000 What year was Trump born?

00:58:34.000 1946.

00:58:34.000 So he's actually a boomer.

00:58:38.000 All three, Bush, Clinton, and Trump are boomers.

00:58:40.000 Yeah, Trump is a boomer.

00:58:41.000 And Biden was born in 42.

00:58:42.000 He's silent generation. 0.99

00:58:43.000 And they're all born in the same hospital.

00:58:45.000 46 is the first year of boomer.

00:58:46.000 You've got to be full for a second.

00:58:47.000 I know, sorry.

00:58:48.000 The generations do vary depending on what source you're using.

00:58:50.000 Right.

00:58:51.000 I just googled it.

00:58:52.000 The first one that comes up is 1946 is baby boomer.

00:58:54.000 I don't think Trump's actually all that boomer in his approach.

00:58:58.000 He's actually not that optimistic and not that supportive of the decisions made in this country for the last 50 years.

00:59:05.000 That's why his tone is super different than Bush or Clinton's.

00:59:08.000 His tone is different than Mitt Romney's. Like it's a fundamental like, yeah, you know, like we did globalization

00:59:14.000 and that was all very good.

00:59:15.000 Trump, even as far back as 1988 when he was first running for president, first flirting running for president,

00:59:21.000 you can go back to see the Oprah Winfrey show.

00:59:24.000 I think it's 87, 88.

00:59:25.000 Trump, this is the Reagan years.

00:59:27.000 People really liked Reagan.

00:59:29.000 He won 49 states.

00:59:30.000 He's saying, actually, the Japanese are crushing us.

00:59:33.000 Everything's kind of bad.

00:59:34.000 We shouldn't really be offshoring all these jobs.

00:59:36.000 This is the 45-year-old Trump.

00:59:40.000 I'm younger than a lot of people who've actually experienced all this stuff, or I'm literally younger than the people who experienced Reagan and all that.

00:59:47.000 But it actually sounds to me like the only reason Reagan won was because of Carter, and the real reason was because of interest rates.

00:59:54.000 What were they at, like 20% or whatever?

00:59:57.000 It was very high.

00:59:58.000 Yeah, it was very, very high.

01:00:00.000 Higher than today, yeah.

01:00:01.000 So you look, the Federal Reserve could decide who they want to be president by just cranking up the interest rates and spiking the incumbent.

01:00:10.000 Yeah, I mean, I think probably, but it's usually this sort of like super jujitsu tango.

01:00:14.000 Sure.

01:00:15.000 Tango between the Fed chair and the president.

01:00:17.000 Right, right.

01:00:17.000 I mean, there is the sort of like left-wing conspiracy is that I believe it was Don Regan, the Treasury Secretary, and Donald Trump, not Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, hauled Paul Volcker in and like sort of intimidated him.

01:00:29.000 And of course, eventually, they got rid of Volcker and replaced him with Greenspan, who was the low-interest rate guy.

01:00:35.000 So can I ask you a question?

01:00:36.000 I love this, uh, all of our presidents are boomers and now they're definitely not letting anyone through. 0.90

01:00:40.000 Yeah.

01:00:41.000 Do we have a- Biden's just a silent generation.

01:00:44.000 The only way to beat the boomers is to go older. 1.00

01:00:48.000 Do we have a class on either side of the aisle of Gen X politicians?

01:00:53.000 I mean, we do have some millennial, but if all the boomers are holding all of the spots in power, do Do we even have anyone to replace them? 0.95

01:01:01.000 Are there that many options?

01:01:02.000 There aren't even cadres.

01:01:04.000 I mean, I think you're getting... Forgive me if I'm misinterpreting your question.

01:01:08.000 The result of this gerontocracy is that there aren't as many people that have the sort of mid-high ranking jobs and have the normal pedigrees to take people on.

01:01:19.000 Right.

01:01:19.000 So I think that's kind of what you're getting.

01:01:21.000 Even Biden's cabinet is strangely constructed.

01:01:24.000 So Jake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor, I believe is a millennial.

01:01:29.000 You can search it.

01:01:31.000 No.

01:01:32.000 Antony Blinken, I think, or he's very late Gen X. Jake Sullivan's got to be Gen X. I think he might be a... He's Gen X. Sullivan is 76.

01:01:40.000 Okay.

01:01:41.000 And Blinken, I think, is Gen X. Yeah, Sullivan's 47.

01:01:45.000 Okay.

01:01:48.000 Blinken is definitely Gen X, I'm pretty sure. 0.99

01:01:51.000 You could argue they had effective chaperones in their roles.

01:01:57.000 So Susan Rice was the previous National Security Advisor.

01:02:00.000 Older, also had a West Wing office.

01:02:02.000 No, Blinken's a boomer.

01:02:03.000 How old? 61.

01:02:05.000 That's part of the weird Gen X coding.

01:02:07.000 You're gonna have to go with my framework.

01:02:11.000 He's a boomer.

01:02:12.000 He's literally a boomer.

01:02:14.000 Boomer is 46 to 64.

01:02:15.000 But my argument essentially was that, I don't get mired in this, but like the early 60s birthdays have this sort of strange... Same thing with 70s.

01:02:22.000 Yeah, he was born in 62.

01:02:23.000 64 is the same age as Obama.

01:02:24.000 It's like you get the millennial zoomer Because I see it.

01:02:28.000 What is 1997?

01:02:28.000 It's technically Millennial, but it could pass as Zoomer.

01:02:31.000 Or 1996, technically Millennial, could pass as Zoomer, in my opinion.

01:02:34.000 It all depends how you code.

01:02:36.000 Certain people want to code old, or certain people want to code younger.

01:02:39.000 It's complex.

01:02:40.000 Yeah, like Seamus Coghlan, for instance, might as well be Silent Generation.

01:02:44.000 But I am a Zoomer, because I was born in 95.

01:02:46.000 Millennial, Millennial.

01:02:48.000 I know, I'm just saying.

01:02:49.000 I'm taking this too seriously.

01:02:52.000 Well, okay, so what's Pete Buttigieg?

01:02:53.000 Is he our only... He's a Millennial.

01:02:54.000 So he's our only millennial cabinet?

01:02:56.000 No, AOC.

01:02:57.000 Cabinet member.

01:02:59.000 Cabinet member.

01:03:00.000 Are you talking about cabinet members?

01:03:01.000 No, you were talking about the cabinet members, so I'm building on that.

01:03:03.000 Buttigieg is definitely the only millennial cabinet member.

01:03:08.000 AOC's not in the cabinet, wait a minute.

01:03:10.000 Actually, this would be an interesting list.

01:03:12.000 Maybe we could produce it, and maybe it already exists, a list of Congress showing a graph, percentage of generations in Congress.

01:03:21.000 The median age of Congress would be, I think, in the low 60s.

01:03:23.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:03:24.000 Yeah.

01:03:24.000 Which, historically, would have been in the 40s or 30s.

01:03:28.000 You know, it's fascinating.

01:03:30.000 It's complex.

01:03:30.000 I mean, the Civil War, people just died.

01:03:33.000 It's not just politics.

01:03:35.000 I read a meme and it said that during the Apollo missions, the people working in Houston were, on average, like 25, 26 years old, and today they're like 48.

01:03:46.000 Yeah, we don't go to the moon anymore.

01:03:47.000 But that's so weird!

01:03:49.000 But it's not just that, it's working in aerospace and NASA.

01:03:53.000 It's not all bad, but I think there's just effectively a real price to be paid for not taking the talents of people in their physical prime, 25 to 40 or something like that, and just saying, like, you're still a child.

01:04:05.000 It's bad for everybody.

01:04:06.000 Everything seems delayed.

01:04:08.000 Like, everyone's having kids later.

01:04:10.000 Literally everything's delayed.

01:04:11.000 And then lockdowns stopped it.

01:04:14.000 Maybe.

01:04:16.000 Lockdown is the most boomer thing.

01:04:19.000 It's boomer protection.

01:04:20.000 Stay in your living room.

01:04:21.000 But I wonder if it's because of the economic issues.

01:04:25.000 2008 stops everything for a few years.

01:04:28.000 2020 stops everything for a few years. 0.97

01:04:31.000 The younger generation inherited just trash. 0.95

01:04:31.000 Yes. 0.95

01:04:34.000 Which definitely accelerated the non-acceleration of their lives.

01:04:39.000 Bad things have happened throughout history.

01:04:40.000 What is new about this?

01:04:44.000 There are great baby boomers, but I think this is clearly a failure. 1.00

01:04:47.000 Oh, they made Star Trek The Next Generation!

01:04:50.000 Billions of people, they did some cool stuff.

01:04:56.000 I think what is different about this situation is that you have an overclass that isn't going away. 0.97

01:05:03.000 Like George W. Bush, the worst president in American history.

01:05:07.000 George W. Bush?

01:05:08.000 I don't know about this. 0.70

01:05:09.000 He's the worst president in America.

01:05:10.000 Not Woodrow Wilson? 0.71

01:05:11.000 Yeah.

01:05:13.000 If the standard is the country he inherited, Mr. President, here's the file of the United States of America in 2001 versus the file that he handed Barack Obama in 2009, I'm not aware of a president.

01:05:25.000 Like, look, a war in Europe was going to happen.

01:05:28.000 Whether or not the US was getting involved is a debate.

01:05:33.000 But I don't think the country in 1920 was radically worse off than it had been from 1912.

01:05:39.000 And of course, the economy boomed after Wilson left office.

01:05:42.000 Creation of the Federal Reserve.

01:05:43.000 Patriot Act.

01:05:44.000 Well, no, no, if Woodrow Wilson.

01:05:45.000 I'm talking about Bush.

01:05:50.000 I think it's almost an above ideological statement to say that George W. Bush did a really, really bad job.

01:05:57.000 Even if you're a deep conservative, I think you have to see.

01:06:00.000 Trump thinks that.

01:06:01.000 I don't even want to defend him.

01:06:01.000 Oh, I don't like Bush.

01:06:03.000 But I also don't like Wilson.

01:06:04.000 My point is, though, if you thought Wilson was the worst president, James, I think there was a whole succession of presidents in the 1850s that were quite bad, but the Civil War might have been inevitable.

01:06:17.000 I don't think the Iraq War was inevitable.

01:06:20.000 I think it was an elective war of choice.

01:06:20.000 I don't.

01:06:22.000 Yes.

01:06:24.000 Versus you could make the argument without Buchanan that the Civil War would have happened, whether it happened earlier or later, like it was moving.

01:06:29.000 Versus it is not clear to me that any other president would have decided to electively go into Iraq.

01:06:35.000 Yeah, fair point, fair point.

01:06:38.000 The whole point is though, even if you thought Wilson was the worst president in American history, he had the decency to die in 1924.

01:06:45.000 Versus we still have to hear what George W. Bush thinks about Ukraine, which he can't even keep track of.

01:06:50.000 And then we have to watch him paint on Kimmel.

01:06:52.000 Hey, he's an artist now.

01:06:54.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:06:55.000 That Freudian slip when he said, launching an unjust war in Iraq.

01:07:00.000 We have to listen to this alleged wise man, and meanwhile he can't even keep track of which country he wants to invade.

01:07:10.000 Democrats view him favorably now.

01:07:12.000 That's what's so weird to me is the Uniparty gave him some type of redemption arc.

01:07:16.000 They won't do that for Trump in 20 years.

01:07:18.000 He was seen sitting with Ellen DeGeneres at a baseball game.

01:07:20.000 He's done all of it.

01:07:22.000 Who knows?

01:07:22.000 We'll be sitting in the 2030s and we're like, man, Tucker Carlson is the worst president ever.

01:07:30.000 Let's jump to this next story.

01:07:31.000 This is big news following what we were just talking about with TikTok.

01:07:34.000 The Postmillennial reports Rumble makes offer to buy and operate TikTok in the US.

01:07:40.000 Quote, in the event that ByteDance divests its ownership in TikTok, Rumble stands ready to join a consortium with other parties seeking to acquire and operate TikTok inside the United States.

01:07:49.000 That's the solution.

01:07:50.000 What should happen right now is that...

01:07:53.000 All TikTokers should be calling for Rumble to acquire and operate TikTok. 0.99

01:07:59.000 It would save the platform.

01:08:01.000 It would help fix a lot of the platform's problems.

01:08:04.000 It would prevent the platform from being shut down, most importantly.

01:08:07.000 And with the unanimous approval from... Which committee was it that was... It was, like, unanimously approved in committee?

01:08:13.000 The House... Intelligence Committee?

01:08:16.000 Commerce Committee.

01:08:17.000 Yeah, the committee.

01:08:18.000 Right, unanimously approved this bill, which would force TikTok to divest from their Chinese investors, become an American company.

01:08:18.000 Energy and Commerce.

01:08:25.000 The interesting thing is, so this bill they're proposing, I was wrong the other day when we were talking about how it would give the president the power to declare a website or app a foreign adversary.

01:08:37.000 I was under the impression it was specifically TikTok.

01:08:40.000 That appears not to be the case.

01:08:41.000 The bill gives the president the authority to declare an adversary under certain criteria.

01:08:47.000 If a website, app, operator or otherwise is being run or is associated with an adversary to the United States, then they can activate severance and seize control or shut it down.

01:08:58.000 That is very, very bad and we should not support this.

01:09:03.000 I think it's important that everybody reads through it.

01:09:04.000 Thomas Massey tweeted about it because it would shut down VPNs, it would shut down Telegram, it wouldn't just shut down TikTok, it would shut down any chance you have of speaking freely outside the control of the U.S.

01:09:17.000 government.

01:09:18.000 They would effectively put a glass dome over the United States in terms of your communication abilities, which is quite literally what we're trying to avoid when we're critical of TikTok.

01:09:26.000 TikTok has a Chinese interest doming over all those people on TikTok, and we want a free and open internet.

01:09:32.000 However, I do believe that TikTok operating under Rumble would solve my biggest concern, which is the egregious censorship on the platform.

01:09:40.000 TikTok is the worst platform for censorship that we've experienced.

01:09:44.000 So I'm for this.

01:09:46.000 But, uh, I'm wondering what you guys would think will happen with TikTok.

01:09:48.000 Do you think they're gonna actually ban it?

01:09:50.000 Do you think TikTok will be forced to divest or what?

01:09:53.000 I think TikTok's going to go screaming to the end.

01:09:58.000 I don't think they're going to give up until they absolutely have to.

01:10:02.000 And I don't know what the fate of this bill is really going to be.

01:10:04.000 I think there has been a really fair level of criticism.

01:10:07.000 I obviously, you know, I've said it before on the show that I think TikTok has a negative effect on American teenagers, and I think ultimately it does support Chinese interests. 1.00

01:10:16.000 The thing that I liked about this bill, I don't like the present thing, I do like that part of it is if they are going to stop operating in the U.S.

01:10:23.000 they do have to give all of the content to all the creators and so that would make a transition to a TikTok rumble hybrid easier and that thing that TikTok is dangling over people right now is that there are so many the influencer sphere is so big and it really does make a lot of money also businesses will sort of blow up you know books will suddenly become famous even though they've been out for five years uh it has a huge impact on uh culture and commerce right now and so if you were to say you're not going to lose your livelihood because that's what tiktok is saying you know it will ruin your life you won't be able to make money it's not only taking away the fund but it's taking away uh the economic freedom that we gave you by becoming you know uh active on this platform uh

01:11:04.000 That would be interesting.

01:11:05.000 I just think that, I don't think this bill will go through and I think the next ban that comes up, if it's better and it does go through, TikTok's going to fight.

01:11:13.000 They're not going to want to go to Rumble.

01:11:14.000 How do they define adversary?

01:11:17.000 Yeah, it's a technical term that's defined by the State Department.

01:11:21.000 Let me see if I can pull it up.

01:11:21.000 Like, I wonder, you know, is it specifically the Chinese Communist Party?

01:11:25.000 Which I doubt.

01:11:26.000 No, it's like a whole list.

01:11:28.000 MAGA extremists. 0.75

01:11:28.000 Can you say how they do it in the bill? 0.75

01:11:31.000 Define adversary in the bill?

01:11:32.000 The term is... Sorry, my apologies.

01:11:36.000 The term is generally set in practice by the National Security Strategy.

01:11:42.000 And they just use that in the bill.

01:11:44.000 The bill wouldn't define it.

01:11:46.000 Norm and convention.

01:11:47.000 Right.

01:11:47.000 There's nothing that can't stop a member of Congress just writing, this guy's an adversary in a bill.

01:11:52.000 And if it gets enough votes, that becomes the law.

01:11:54.000 Or just using certain types of phrases as a way to define adversary.

01:11:58.000 Biden's national security strategy stopped short of calling MAGA extremists.

01:12:04.000 Yeah, short of calling China an enemy.

01:12:07.000 Oh, okay.

01:12:08.000 Interesting.

01:12:09.000 Interesting.

01:12:10.000 I think maybe competitor is the term, or something maybe a little bit frostier than that.

01:12:19.000 But it's an upgrade from 2013, where it was just openly a business partner.

01:12:24.000 Right.

01:12:25.000 It reminds me of when all the states were banning TikTok and they were each coming out with their own language and every ban that was issued by a governor got more and more refined in my opinion or a lot of them did because you saw they would be headed as like state enacts TikTok ban you can't use TikTok on government-owned devices government-owned Wi-Fi and it kept expanding but also some of the states banned other apps that are owned by companies based in Beijing which is the whole idea that you know Companies that operate in China are obligated to submit user data to the Communist Party.

01:12:55.000 Fun idea for you.

01:12:56.000 Yeah, that's the threshold they're building off of.

01:12:59.000 So they would also bring up WhatsApp.

01:13:02.000 Like you can't use, certain states you can't use WhatsApp on government Wi-Fi or government-owned devices.

01:13:06.000 And again, it's the idea that like these entities have broad reaching terms of service.

01:13:13.000 They're able to use I mean, similarly, Trump is right when he points out that, you know, in some ways this would benefit Facebook, which in its terms of service, if you open Facebook on your browser, it can see everything else on every other tab, right?

01:13:23.000 And that's the concern they have with TikTok.

01:13:25.000 I think two things are going on here on the Republican side.

01:13:29.000 One, there is the longstanding view, and apologies if you guys use TikTok at all, but I don't.

01:13:35.000 I've been banned.

01:13:36.000 Okay, got it.

01:13:37.000 Not the right audience for that.

01:13:38.000 Are you a TikTok fan?

01:13:39.000 I won't put it on my phone.

01:13:42.000 We got banned arbitrarily for citing statistics.

01:13:46.000 Okay.

01:13:47.000 Not even offensive ones.

01:13:48.000 It was depression among women.

01:13:50.000 I see.

01:13:51.000 And someone read a stat that the study found that women who are in the workplace have higher rates of depression and permabanned instantly.

01:14:00.000 What year is this?

01:14:01.000 This was last year, I think.

01:14:03.000 I think in general conservatives look at it two different ways.

01:14:06.000 One, uh, the medium is not particularly high IQ.

01:14:10.000 In fact, like literally just seems like if you watch enough videos, it's just going to melt your brain.

01:14:15.000 Um, but two, there has been a development, I feel like in the last six to 12 months, uh, where there are such, there's such a lack or paucity of Republicans on the platform that the ones who do go on do very well.

01:14:28.000 And I think like so like someone like from Swami the candidate, you know call for a ban And then I think he started going on and he's obviously very well spoken and kind of did well and he's like, well Yeah, so I think I think that's I think that's kind of going on I mean also I think it's this sort of weird situation where it's not that weird neither party trust the other with the power of the state So if the Republicans were convinced that like, you know, congressman Gallagher who's retiring?

01:14:55.000 We're like Marco Rubio was gonna like be the one to adjudicating, you know, who's an adversary, or like who

01:15:00.000 gets banned based on China ties. Okay, but like if the Democrats win, like they're obviously, the

01:15:06.000 prospect of them stretching an interpretation here to make it arbitrary, as you just

01:15:12.000 said, seems like not only likely, but certain. Yeah. Yeah. Would you ban TikTok or what would

01:15:20.000 that look like for you? I would have said yes a year ago. At this point.

01:15:23.000 I mean, look, if they're serious, I mean, that guy, the TikTok CEO who kept saying, remember he had that exchange with, I believe it was Cotton or somebody, like he kept indicating that he's Singaporean and he's not actually Chinese.

01:15:36.000 I'm Singaporean, you know, I think it was Cotton. 0.92

01:15:36.000 Right. 0.92

01:15:38.000 That's a big difference.

01:15:39.000 As someone who went to high school in Singapore, it's different.

01:15:40.000 It is different.

01:15:42.000 But obviously... Wait, they're different places?

01:15:43.000 I didn't realize that the...

01:15:45.000 It's different parts of... Well, he's Singaporean, but White Dance still is based in Beijing.

01:15:50.000 Singapore is like the Rhode Island of countries.

01:15:53.000 It was a bit of a solipsism by him.

01:15:56.000 He represents a Chinese firm, and he just kept indicating... It'd be a little bit like if you were born in a different country, and just really roping on that, even though you... Well, I'll give you an example of the purpose of this assumptive language.

01:16:08.000 When I was in Venezuela, I'm an American.

01:16:11.000 I know what happens to Americans. 1.00

01:16:12.000 When were you in Venezuela?

01:16:14.000 10 years ago?

01:16:16.000 So was it before Maduro or Chavez?

01:16:16.000 11 years ago?

01:16:18.000 No, it was during Maduro.

01:16:19.000 So 2014?

01:16:20.000 And it was large protests from the middle class because they're being gutted and destroyed.

01:16:25.000 And I'm with the film crew for Vice, and a guy comes up to me and he goes, where are you from?

01:16:29.000 And he's pissed.

01:16:30.000 And I know exactly what comes next and I go, Vice Magazine!

01:16:34.000 And he goes, no, no, what country?

01:16:35.000 And I was like, Vice Magazine is a Canadian magazine.

01:16:37.000 And then he nods and walks off.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, I didn't actually answer his question.

01:16:43.000 When he said, where are you from?

01:16:44.000 I was like, Vice!

01:16:45.000 Vice Magazine!

01:16:46.000 Right, right, right.

01:16:46.000 Like, as if the question was what outlet.

01:16:48.000 When I know what he meant.

01:16:49.000 And you have to get, you're legally required to have your passport on you at all times if you're a foreigner.

01:16:53.000 You should have just done the Biden thing and talked about how your car makes noise.

01:16:55.000 No, no, when he said, which country?

01:16:56.000 Instead of answering the question, I said, Vice Magazine is a Canadian magazine.

01:17:00.000 Which was not the question he asked, but he assumed then, I must be Canadian.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, that's the point of saying, I'm from Singapore.

01:17:07.000 Right.

01:17:08.000 We get it, we know, we're asking who you are representing.

01:17:10.000 Right.

01:17:11.000 That was very clever.

01:17:13.000 You survived.

01:17:14.000 So, I mean, it worked, and this guy is still in the arena.

01:17:18.000 I mean, if they are serious, I think, like, this is just optically, in my personal opinion, a great deal for them.

01:17:25.000 Everybody knows Rumble is right aligned.

01:17:28.000 If they're serious about operating the U.S.

01:17:29.000 and they want to show that they're divested from, you know, day-in, day-out of control by Beijing, Why not take this offer?

01:17:35.000 I mean, that's kind of wild to say that Rumble is right aligned, to be honest.

01:17:39.000 I'm not saying you're wrong.

01:17:40.000 I think functionally they are.

01:17:41.000 They're obviously filling a gap in the marketplace.

01:17:44.000 But I think the challenge we are facing right now is that the right is just a bunch of centrists.

01:17:52.000 What is the right?

01:17:55.000 The right is centrism, and the left is far-left extremism.

01:17:58.000 As exemplified by Rumble, we'll not ban far-leftists.

01:18:02.000 They will not do it.

01:18:03.000 They will allow the left and the right to have their conversations.

01:18:05.000 The left will absolutely ban anyone on the right.

01:18:08.000 Consistently in the culture war, the right says, now slow down there, let's be fair to each other, and the left just says, destroy them.

01:18:16.000 One of the most telltale signs of this whole thing, I feel like you see a little less now because it's just so ridiculous, but a couple years ago when you had a lot of sort of, I'll just use this term again, left-aligned thinkers or speakers or public personalities putting the word free speech in sneer quotes, right?

01:18:33.000 It was like literally, like the concept is literally the First Amendment of the United States.

01:18:39.000 But like, you know, the idea of free speech being a novel or right-wing concept, I mean, I think that's the environment in which Rumble came into being.

01:18:50.000 Free speech means hate speech.

01:18:53.000 I mean, this is an old debate, but it's like the idea that the open forum in the digital era... I mean, even the terms...

01:19:02.000 I will ban it from my magazine, like the words misinformation or disinformation.

01:19:09.000 Like, are we all adults or not?

01:19:11.000 You don't use those words you're saying?

01:19:11.000 Right?

01:19:12.000 No.

01:19:13.000 No.

01:19:13.000 Nice.

01:19:13.000 No.

01:19:14.000 Like, I mean, it's just like, I mean, if you want to have some insane very far left person write something and it's actually very well done, they can, I'm not going to say this is misinformation, the reader can make up their own mind.

01:19:25.000 The writers are allowed to use it, you're saying?

01:19:25.000 Right.

01:19:27.000 I won't allow it.

01:19:28.000 I won't allow misuse.

01:19:29.000 Because it's been so overused and means nothing anymore?

01:19:33.000 I do believe human beings lie or make arguments that are fraudulent or sedentious, but I think it is a lot better to litigate that and debate it and have an open discussion than to just say, this is a misinformation trademark.

01:19:51.000 It's an un-American concept.

01:19:52.000 Have you rejected other modern style guide concepts as an editor of a magazine?

01:19:57.000 There's so many.

01:19:58.000 We're fairly straight. 0.55

01:19:59.000 Capital B for black. 1.00

01:20:02.000 We don't use that.

01:20:02.000 The New York Times small w for white.

01:20:05.000 It's crazy.

01:20:06.000 I think the Post is still, it's very confusing.

01:20:10.000 The Post?

01:20:11.000 The New York Post, you're saying?

01:20:12.000 The Washington Post.

01:20:13.000 Because the New York Post has lost their minds.

01:20:16.000 The New York Post has lost their minds.

01:20:18.000 Yeah, like their stories have become more like BuzzFeed articles, I've noticed lately.

01:20:24.000 That doesn't mean it's all like that.

01:20:27.000 What era do you think that changed?

01:20:30.000 I've only noticed it recently, but I think it's been happening slowly because I remember seeing bylines in the New York Post and then going to check out their Twitter and their Twitter pages were just like insane leftist people, but their articles weren't so left-leaning.

01:20:45.000 They were sort of like objective, but then the objectivity started to wane.

01:20:50.000 And, uh, now we're getting more articles that I would have seen as, like, first-person essays in BuzzFeed ten years ago.

01:20:56.000 You know, like, uh, sex-obsessed, weird, you know.

01:20:59.000 Oh, I see, I see.

01:21:00.000 Modern love, but spicier. 0.97

01:21:01.000 A little more tabloid.

01:21:02.000 Yeah.

01:21:03.000 Yeah.

01:21:03.000 I see.

01:21:04.000 It's weird.

01:21:04.000 I see.

01:21:05.000 I do think the New York Post still sets this sort of agenda for, like, a lot of television.

01:21:08.000 Right.

01:21:09.000 And, uh, you know, it's still huge reach.

01:21:12.000 Yeah.

01:21:13.000 And it's definitely more outlawed than the Journal, the Wall Street Journal.

01:21:16.000 Yeah.

01:21:17.000 Yeah.

01:21:18.000 Let's jump to the story, which I've only just recently began hearing about, and I don't have many words.

01:21:24.000 From Newsweek, Candace Owens bets career on politician's wife being a man. 1.00

01:21:28.000 Terrifying.

01:21:31.000 Okay, here we go.

01:21:34.000 Conservative commentator Candace Owens said she would bet her career that French President Emmanuel Macron's wife, Brigitte, is a man.

01:21:40.000 Quote, After looking into this, I would stake my entire professional reputation on the fact that Brigitte Macron is in fact a man.

01:21:47.000 Owens wrote in a Tuesday post on Axe, formerly Twitter.

01:21:49.000 Any journalist or publication that is trying to dismiss this plausibility is immediately identifiable as establishment.

01:21:55.000 I have never seen anything like this in my life.

01:21:58.000 The implications here are terrifying.

01:22:00.000 Owen spoke in-depth about the long-standing conspiracy theory during Monday's episode of our podcast, arguing that if Bridget really wanted to debunk those claims, she could simply release photos from the first 30 years of her life.

01:22:11.000 Analyzing a rare family photo of Bridget as a baby, Owen said Bridget was a dead ringer for her brother, and thus they were really the same person.

01:22:19.000 Last year, a French court fined two women for promoting the conspiracy about Bridget in a now-deleted YouTube video.

01:22:26.000 In 2021, psychic Amandine Roy and self-described freelance journalist Natacha Ray claimed in a four-hour video that the First Lady was born as a boy by the name of Jean-Michel Trogneau, which is actually the name of her brother.

01:22:40.000 They also claimed that she did not give birth to their children and that her first husband never existed.

01:22:46.000 Is she talking about Michelle Obama?

01:22:47.000 No, no, because I'm not making any accusations about Michelle Obama.

01:22:49.000 That's quite literally the conspiracy theory about Michelle Obama.

01:22:52.000 What if all world leaders' wives are actually original transgenders and the transgender agenda was laid in place to help make this acceptable? 0.98

01:22:59.000 And this comes out during Women's History Month?

01:23:00.000 Exactly.

01:23:01.000 That actually makes perfect sense in the absurd world.

01:23:04.000 The thing about Macron and his wife is it always gets me that they met when he was classmates with his daughter and she was a teacher at his high school.

01:23:12.000 And you want to be like, this seemed unethical and weird from the beginning.

01:23:16.000 You mean he was a teacher.

01:23:17.000 at his high school. Look, no one's proved it to me. I don't want to question Candace

01:23:21.000 Allen's reputation or anything else, but you know. I looked into this as doing a lot of work. What

01:23:26.000 does that mean? Yeah, I'm doing it right now. I'm doing a lot of work on my phone right now to see,

01:23:32.000 you know, these days. To assemble a team, to finance.

01:23:35.000 I thought Candace was asking for like a certain type of pick like a pull your pants down type of pick to prove 1.00

01:23:41.000 yourself Whether even that wouldn't do it. I don't understand the

01:23:46.000 point of these of these theories There's not much I just google searched Bridget McCrone

01:23:50.000 young and this is what comes up I mean, I stand by the fact that she was his teacher is

01:23:55.000 weird enough Totally weird enough.

01:23:57.000 Maybe there's a gender angle, but let's focus on what we know for sure, which is that they met when he was 15, and that just seems weird to me.

01:24:04.000 That was like a three-year investigation from what I remember them doing, too.

01:24:07.000 It wasn't like a short.

01:24:08.000 They did it for a while.

01:24:09.000 Who is they?

01:24:10.000 I don't know.

01:24:11.000 Good question.

01:24:11.000 Who is they?

01:24:12.000 No, but like the French journalist that they were investigating.

01:24:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:16.000 It's been around for a long time.

01:24:17.000 It wasn't like a little thing.

01:24:18.000 They studied it for years.

01:24:19.000 No, Candace is probably right.

01:24:21.000 Like Trudeau's probably Castro's son.

01:24:23.000 Michelle is definitely Mike. 0.75

01:24:27.000 The bar on that is so much lower.

01:24:31.000 He does look like Fidel Castro.

01:24:34.000 It only has to happen once.

01:24:37.000 Versus this implies that they have an actor and a bunch of people were falsified.

01:24:42.000 And also her first husband did die that was a real person.

01:24:46.000 So I can't sell you then on a Biden clone?

01:24:48.000 So if you can see Trudeau as Castro, I can't sell you on Biden being a network of clones and holograms?

01:24:53.000 Secret, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?

01:24:56.000 Illegitimate child. 0.55

01:24:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:58.000 Okay.

01:24:59.000 Okay.

01:24:59.000 Here.

01:25:01.000 Super transgender conspiracy theory up here. 0.97

01:25:04.000 Yeah, true.

01:25:05.000 Biden, President of the United States as actor.

01:25:09.000 Above that.

01:25:09.000 Dude, I thought you were gonna give me below.

01:25:11.000 Like 17 standard deviations.

01:25:13.000 That's crazy.

01:25:14.000 That's crazy.

01:25:14.000 I think that should be below.

01:25:16.000 17 standard deviations.

01:25:17.000 That should be below the transgender world leader wives. 1.00

01:25:20.000 In my chart.

01:25:21.000 The clone is down here in the middle.

01:25:22.000 Okay, so we all agree that you are swapping out the actor below.

01:25:27.000 So you just think Biden is more likely to be a clone.

01:25:31.000 It depends on which day it is, but it could be a clone, a deepfake.

01:25:33.000 A clone of Biden?

01:25:35.000 Or yeah, there's a whole system of below.

01:25:36.000 Like a body double or like a full-on clone?

01:25:37.000 Both.

01:25:38.000 It depends on the day.

01:25:39.000 Which one is it?

01:25:39.000 Wait, wait, wait, guys, guys, guys.

01:25:41.000 It is a fact that powerful world leaders have body doubles.

01:25:43.000 Yeah.

01:25:44.000 That's not a conspiracy theory at all.

01:25:45.000 Yeah.

01:25:47.000 So why would they not periodically use a body double?

01:25:50.000 I mean, Putin does it.

01:25:51.000 That's a different argument.

01:25:52.000 Or I say Putin's been accused of doing it.

01:25:53.000 There've been people who are like, that kind of doesn't look like him.

01:25:55.000 Which one is it?

01:25:56.000 That there are body doubles, which I'm- Body doubles are a fact.

01:25:58.000 I think that's over here.

01:26:00.000 I don't know for presidents of the United States I'm not saying for presidents, but powerful world leaders and politicians throughout history have used body doubles.

01:26:09.000 So is the theory that he has a body double or that they just replaced the president with the body double?

01:26:14.000 So here's the point, here's the point.

01:26:16.000 I don't think Biden was replaced.

01:26:17.000 I think Biden got surgery.

01:26:19.000 People are like, look at these two people that look so different.

01:26:21.000 I'm like, look at the man's face.

01:26:22.000 They pulled it back. 0.93

01:26:23.000 So who was the recent Biden with the scrotum chin?

01:26:30.000 That's the same Biden.

01:26:31.000 Same Biden?

01:26:31.000 Because that was a different, that was a different chin.

01:26:33.000 Dude, camera angles, like, you can, you can take a look at any of the thumbnails of me and see some days I'm, I'm like, my face is poofier, I have bags under my eyes.

01:26:42.000 But that chin was saggier than most other, like, angles would give, you know?

01:26:48.000 You could have a bad angle.

01:26:49.000 So I gotta be honest, it probably sounds gross, but you can see sometimes when he turns his neck, it pulls the skin out from his shirt and then it hangs like it was tucked in.

01:26:58.000 Well, that's because it's a mask that a CIA agent is wearing.

01:27:02.000 The only time I believe there was possibly a body double was during, I think it was 2021.

01:27:06.000 They were going to, they always go to Delaware all the time.

01:27:09.000 But there was a phase where he was wearing his aviators and he had a mask on and he wasn't holding hands with Joe Biden.

01:27:14.000 And there was a moment where I was like, maybe they feel like they can't send him into public.

01:27:18.000 Who wasn't holding hands?

01:27:19.000 Joe and Jill.

01:27:20.000 And they typically are pretty PDA in public.

01:27:23.000 And it made me wonder, like, maybe they feel like he is too medically fragile to, like, go out and catch pneumonia or COVID or whatever.

01:27:29.000 That was the only time that I was like, maybe this is when they're sending someone else in.

01:27:33.000 Yes.

01:27:33.000 Wearing a mask and glasses so you can't even see his face, it's not even that complicated.

01:27:37.000 It's the perfect time not to risk his health.

01:27:38.000 But I want to say this about Bridgette McCrone and Michelle Obama, is that, think about how brutal it must be to be a middle-aged woman and have people be like, the only explanation for her appearance is that she's a man!

01:27:51.000 You know, it's just like... It's driving sales in the beauty industry, right?

01:27:54.000 Well, that's the world they created, so let them have it, you know?

01:27:57.000 Oh, for real?

01:27:57.000 They're constantly questioning whatever gender means in all these things.

01:28:00.000 I think, in defense of the Macrons, I don't think that they're as far out on the transgender stuff as the Obama family is. 0.81

01:28:07.000 Yeah.

01:28:08.000 So where does that fall on your scale?

01:28:10.000 Interesting.

01:28:10.000 On plausibility?

01:28:11.000 Yeah.

01:28:12.000 I think neither of them are men.

01:28:14.000 Okay, okay.

01:28:15.000 Shane's like, I'm ready to show hands over here.

01:28:17.000 We can still be friends.

01:28:18.000 So I'll put it this way.

01:28:19.000 If someone came to me, actually I have a friend of mine.

01:28:22.000 I'm sitting, I'm hanging out in his living room and we're in California.

01:28:24.000 Shout out Robbie.

01:28:25.000 And he's gonna text me now.

01:28:27.000 And he was like, Michelle Obama's a man.

01:28:29.000 And I was like, Robbie, stop.

01:28:30.000 And he's like, I'm telling you, dude.

01:28:31.000 And then he pulls up YouTube and he starts showing me all these videos.

01:28:35.000 And I was like, oh, come on, man, look.

01:28:38.000 Yeah, there are these videos that show like Michelle Obama and like- Dancing on Ellen.

01:28:44.000 Dancing on Ellen and things like this.

01:28:46.000 And I'm like, I don't think this proves what you think it proves because like any trans person is going to tuck. 1.00

01:28:53.000 They sell tuck-friendly bathing suits.

01:28:55.000 Like, I don't think you're seeing what you think you're seeing.

01:28:57.000 And I honestly, I'm like, I don't know what the point of the conspiracy theory is other than just like insult Michelle Obama as being ugly or something and manly or whatever.

01:29:03.000 I think it's all part of the erosion of reality.

01:29:06.000 But that being said, that being said, If someone came to me and said, look at this photo of Joe Biden from this recent event, that's a body double, I'd say, oh, it's possible.

01:29:15.000 You don't immediately dismiss that because politicians use body doubles.

01:29:18.000 I think it would be absurd to argue that Saddam Hussein had a body double, but the American politicians don't.

01:29:24.000 Vladimir Putin has a body double, but American politicians don't.

01:29:27.000 Right.

01:29:27.000 Okay, maybe members of Congress.

01:29:28.000 The price of saying the president is using a body double is lower here than it was in Saddam's Iraq. 0.77

01:29:33.000 I mean, I feel like you, is it a Tim Pool show in Iraq?

01:29:36.000 I mean, you just kind of, What do you mean?

01:29:39.000 I just feel like nobody was allowed to even say it.

01:29:41.000 In Iraq?

01:29:42.000 Pretty much, yeah.

01:29:44.000 Well yeah, sure, but in the United States, I'm just saying that if someone came to me... It's far a lot more likely that Biden has a body double than either of these people.

01:29:52.000 I say it's actually probable in all likelihood.

01:29:55.000 It's a breaking of norms, for sure.

01:29:57.000 I don't think so.

01:29:58.000 I don't think any president's ever had a body double that I'm aware of.

01:30:00.000 It's not documented.

01:30:01.000 Well, right, it's national security.

01:30:03.000 I see.

01:30:04.000 We're talking about a country where we've had, how many presidential assassinations have there been?

01:30:08.000 How many, two assassinations?

01:30:10.000 No, five.

01:30:11.000 Five?

01:30:11.000 Four or five.

01:30:12.000 McKinley.

01:30:13.000 JFK.

01:30:17.000 Arthur?

01:30:19.000 Oh, Garfield.

01:30:20.000 Garfield, sorry.

01:30:21.000 Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy, Lincoln.

01:30:25.000 Maybe only four.

01:30:26.000 Right, so why would they come out and be like, by the way, we're using a body double?

01:30:30.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:31.000 I see.

01:30:32.000 And if they were to come out afterwards and say, by the way, we're using body doubles, that would compromise the security of existing leadership.

01:30:39.000 I feel like it's more likely to have happened in the 60s or 70s because the cameras were less sophisticated.

01:30:43.000 Oh, interesting.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, but when... It was just a lot easier to pull this stuff in the 60s and 70s.

01:30:47.000 Sure, sure.

01:30:48.000 Like, there weren't all this, there weren't all these things.

01:30:50.000 Yeah.

01:30:50.000 Like, I mean, even by the early 70s, I mean, what did it nix it?

01:30:54.000 Like, the fact that things were recorded.

01:30:56.000 Before then, less things are recorded.

01:30:58.000 Right.

01:30:58.000 You know, when Hillary Clinton was campaigning in 2016 and she put on a Southern drawl, not realizing that the internet existed, But she still pulled out hot sauce on Charlamagne's show.

01:31:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:09.000 She does not understand what the internet is like.

01:31:11.000 But my point is, I would argue, sure, there's probably a probability that body doubles aren't being used, but I'm willing to bet that the United States government uses body doubles.

01:31:25.000 No, it's just like rudimentary security.

01:31:29.000 I think what fuels the Macron thing is that it was alleged that one of the classified documents that President Trump is alleged to have confiscated or stolen was basically an intelligence dossier about the Macrons.

01:31:43.000 And so the theory was that there was some sort of salacious, like, sex stuff.

01:31:48.000 But I think it's far more likely to be like that than like...

01:31:51.000 Isn't it enough that he married the person who probably groomed him?

01:31:55.000 Like, he is actually a child's victim?

01:31:57.000 So this is a diversion tactic.

01:31:59.000 Yeah, that would make her more acceptable if she was a man. 0.98

01:32:01.000 She would be like, wow, first trans, first lady.

01:32:03.000 Vote her in next. 1.00

01:32:04.000 I think it's weirder that it's actually the obvious.

01:32:09.000 What exactly is your argument?

01:32:10.000 Oh, I'm just saying like he- He's been groomed.

01:32:13.000 They met when he was a student in her school, so arguably you could say, theoretically, the salacious- That would be illegal, that would be, assuming that there was sexual contact, that would be illegal in the United States, but not in France.

01:32:23.000 Right, I'm saying if you're saying she was like a salacious issue, I mean, either way, it's not great optics, right?

01:32:27.000 Like, I think it's weird that she- I don't think it was that much of a hindrance in France.

01:32:31.000 Yeah, France has weird laws.

01:32:33.000 The thing though, the allegation- Well, and he's a boy, so they would- Well, the allegation in French politics is that he's gay.

01:32:37.000 And so, not so much this.

01:32:39.000 I mean, although obviously enough people believe this if this is in the courts.

01:32:43.000 But, like, the big thing is that he's somehow not straight.

01:32:46.000 Is that how they, did they, uh, lampoon him like that?

01:32:48.000 In, like, the bear version of their, uh, satire?

01:32:51.000 It was a bigger issue in the 2017 campaign.

01:32:55.000 There's a, there's a Netflix documentary about it, and it's, it's in French, it's about the campaign.

01:32:59.000 And, like, there's, like, a, uh, like, a clip of Macron talking, and I forget if it's in French or the English, but forgive me, I'll just impersonate it.

01:33:06.000 He was, like, Why is it that every man who dates an older woman is assumed to be a gigolo or a homosexual?

01:33:13.000 I don't understand.

01:33:14.000 And so that was very overt in that campaign.

01:33:18.000 And the Le Pen party, the Front National, which has been renamed, was very big, sort of subtly propagating that view.

01:33:29.000 But I do think French sexual mores are just super different than Americans.

01:33:33.000 This doesn't seem particularly strange. 0.95

01:33:35.000 And if he is gay, wouldn't he be mad because the current Prime Minister is openly gay? 0.97

01:33:40.000 Like if he had to have this beard for all these years, for nothing. 0.92

01:33:43.000 I don't think he's gay.

01:33:44.000 I don't think he is, I'm just saying, if he were.

01:33:46.000 I just, I'm looking at this story and I'm like, man, you know, Candace Owens.

01:33:53.000 Running a segment where she says she bets her career that Bridgette McCrone is a man.

01:33:59.000 I'm like, sometimes I wish I had the gall to say such a thing because you get headlines, you build followers, you make a lot of money doing that stuff.

01:34:08.000 What bank is going to take the house when that's not true?

01:34:11.000 I'm here from the career bank, and I would like your career as collateral.

01:34:16.000 I'm not literally talking about a bat.

01:34:17.000 I'm saying, like, Candace Owens saying such a provocative thing certainly will make her a household name, and her career is benefiting from it. 0.96

01:34:27.000 There's no loss of her career from saying anything like this.

01:34:30.000 I don't doubt her that she truly believes this.

01:34:32.000 I'm just saying, I wish I sometimes believed these things, and then I could make videos like that instead of just being like, probably not.

01:34:38.000 Let's come up with something good for you.

01:34:40.000 The Earth is a donut.

01:34:42.000 It's both flat and hollow.

01:34:43.000 That needs to be the clip tomorrow.

01:34:45.000 Donut Earth Theory.

01:34:46.000 Tim Poole believes the Earth is a donut.

01:34:48.000 It's amazing.

01:34:49.000 And we can go and look at the past of all the times he's talked about the Simpsons.

01:34:53.000 You know, see these weird Homer connections.

01:34:56.000 Did Vice really fall for this?

01:34:59.000 Look at this.

01:34:59.000 No!

01:35:02.000 Is your picture in this already?

01:35:03.000 I don't know, but I posted this image and I said, the world isn't flat, it's flat and hollow.

01:35:08.000 Would you make it a donut?

01:35:11.000 What is this from?

01:35:11.000 They need a celebrity.

01:35:12.000 I don't know, did I make the cut?

01:35:14.000 Tim Pool's their mascot.

01:35:16.000 We need a donut guy. 0.99

01:35:18.000 There's this uh this news channel for skateboarding called shredder dot news.

01:35:23.000 Yep, and They write about me so often.

01:35:25.000 There's a conspiracy theory that it's mine, and I run it which I do not I don't know I have anything to do with it And it certainly does write about us quite a bit It could be because we're infusing money in the skateboard industry an industry that is dying but I forgot where I was going this doughnuts and Oh, right, right, right, right.

01:35:41.000 Someone commented on one of the stories that, you know, Tim Pool is bad.

01:35:45.000 And someone was like, why do you think Tim Pool is so bad?

01:35:47.000 And they said, because he believes it should be illegal to not believe in God.

01:35:52.000 And I really, I really, I love this because if you meet someone who knows who I am, There are a few things you will perceive based on what they believe.

01:36:04.000 So I simultaneously tweeted, it should be illegal to not believe in God.

01:36:09.000 And then I tweeted an hour later, it should be illegal to believe in God.

01:36:12.000 Now what happens is the left only shares the one where Tim Pool is the fascist, theocratic guy.

01:36:18.000 So now they're all saying, Tim Pool thinks you should be forced by law to believe in God.

01:36:23.000 That clearly shows this person has never engaged with any of the content we actually do on the show.

01:36:27.000 And it's in essence, it's something called coloring the water where you can see what's, you don't need to ask them their politics.

01:36:33.000 You don't need to ask them what they're gonna vote for.

01:36:34.000 You can literally say, what do you think about Tim Pool?

01:36:36.000 And they say, he thinks it should be illegal if you don't believe in God.

01:36:40.000 It's like, okay, you're a Biden voter.

01:36:42.000 And then you have people who will say, the funny thing is most Trump voters will likely know both tweets exist.

01:36:51.000 But they'll still, the more heavily theocratic individuals are attacking me for saying it should be illegal to believe in God or something like that.

01:37:00.000 How dare you say that?

01:37:01.000 You're creating your own Mandela effect for your own biography.

01:37:04.000 Right.

01:37:05.000 People believe two separate things even though you're putting out both realities.

01:37:08.000 Here's the important thing, ladies and gentlemen, listen to me.

01:37:11.000 There's a reason why I did this.

01:37:14.000 The next time someone says to you, yeah, but Tim Pool said it should be illegal to not believe in God, say, what are you talking about?

01:37:22.000 He never said that.

01:37:23.000 And when they say, yes, he did, he tweeted it, you can Google the tweet where I said the opposite and say, look, March at 9 a.m., he says it should be illegal to believe in God.

01:37:33.000 And they'll go, huh?

01:37:35.000 No, no, no, he's a, what?

01:37:38.000 Because these people don't investigate and research this stuff.

01:37:40.000 You can shatter their minds in an instant.

01:37:42.000 Now, I'm not saying to trick them.

01:37:44.000 The point is actually quite simple.

01:37:46.000 Their worldview will shatter in an instant when they say, but I watched, insert leftist commentator, who showed me the tweet of Tim Pool saying, it should be illegal to not believe in God.

01:37:58.000 And then you can say, here's the tweet right here on my phone, on Twitter, right now.

01:38:01.000 Believing in God should be illegal, it says.

01:38:04.000 And they're gonna go, I was lied to.

01:38:06.000 I hate to poke just this little hole in the theory though, because I've shown people things like the good people on both sides argument, and they still, after seeing the video, will be like, he still said it.

01:38:17.000 What?

01:38:18.000 They'll see the video and still believe in the narrative that they came to the story with.

01:38:22.000 Some people are lost.

01:38:23.000 But for the people who can be shattered from the Matrix, those people that are watching, these leftist commentators, who made all these videos saying Tim Pool said thing, you can easily now link to my tweet saying the opposite thing, and then they'll be like, at the very least, they'll say, wait, I don't understand, how is this possible?

01:38:39.000 I saw a tweet where he said this other thing.

01:38:41.000 How is a tweet existing that says the exact opposite?

01:38:44.000 And you can say, you can choose to tell the truth.

01:38:46.000 He tweeted both things to prove a point.

01:38:48.000 The left is going to lie to you about what he's actually saying.

01:38:53.000 I think it was Patton Oswalt or Ricky Gervais who did this a long time ago.

01:38:56.000 Where, back before there were tweet threads, he tweeted something shockingly racist, and then the next tweet completed the context, inverting the claim.

01:39:09.000 And so, people found tweets from, I can't remember who it was, it might have been Ricky Gervais, I'm not sure, but it was saying things like, I just can't believe insert group of people would actually want to do something like this, it's horrible.

01:39:22.000 Then the next tweet was that someone would actually believe they would even do something like that because I don't believe that's true for a moment.

01:39:27.000 So it would create this dichotomy or whatever.

01:39:30.000 But if you Google search, it should be illegal, Tim Kast, you will see two tweets.

01:39:35.000 One saying, believing in God should be illegal.

01:39:37.000 It should be illegal not to believe in God.

01:39:38.000 And when you run to leftists who are light, this is what I'm sick of, the leftists will

01:39:43.000 say Tim Pool said thing and they will share things out of context.

01:39:46.000 So I created a scenario where of course they took the bait, they ran full speed with it, 1.00

01:39:50.000 they were screaming and hollering because they're morons who don't care for truth and 1.00

01:39:54.000 they don't care if they get caught. 1.00

01:39:55.000 They just wanted the juicy tweet, tweeted the opposite on the same day less than an

01:39:59.000 hour later, about an hour later.

01:40:01.000 And now whenever someone who's been indoctrinated by the psychopath says Tim Pool thinks X,

01:40:04.000 you can be like, here's my phone, opposite.

01:40:06.000 How long have you been doing this?

01:40:07.000 Oh, I've been doing stuff like that for a long time.

01:40:10.000 I've tweeted various contradictory things like that for this explicit purpose.

01:40:14.000 So.

01:40:14.000 Thank you.

01:40:16.000 People often say, like, how can I, you know, I had a friend say, how do I convince my family that they're being lied to?

01:40:21.000 And it's difficult.

01:40:23.000 Okay, for young people that are getting all their news from the Young Turks, or Hasan, or Vosh, or whatever, Vosh once ran a segment where there was a clearly sarcastic tweet, and he's like, the thing about conservatives is that they fundamentally believe, and then he inserts some insane argument I never made, and the Young Turks, they took a tweet of me, I can't remember what, oh, I remember what it was.

01:40:44.000 I remember a Republican arguing for 16- and 17-year-olds to be able to work 40 hours a week.

01:40:49.000 And I said something like, yes, our kids need jobs.

01:40:52.000 Which was like, tongue-in-cheek, half-kidding.

01:40:55.000 And they all pretended like it was the most serious thing I've ever stated.

01:41:00.000 Without actually providing the context of the purpose of the tweet, the purpose of the labor argument.

01:41:06.000 And so, it's things like that where I'm like, they intentionally lie to you because they're grifters.

01:41:12.000 So when people say, how can I prove to people they're lying, that's what I did.

01:41:16.000 And now you can say, oh, where did you hear that Tim said that?

01:41:19.000 Okay, I just googled it, he said the opposite.

01:41:21.000 He said actually it should be illegal to believe in God.

01:41:23.000 And then they're gonna say, was I lied to?

01:41:26.000 And you say, yeah, you were lied to.

01:41:27.000 You were lied to.

01:41:28.000 It was a series of sarcastic joke tweets.

01:41:30.000 Or you can just say, I don't know, question who showed you a fake tweet, I guess.

01:41:34.000 And that's going to force them to be like, Mandela affecting them, basically.

01:41:38.000 They're gonna be like, I swear, no, you saw a fake video from some far leftist who lies to you all the time.

01:41:43.000 Congratulations.

01:41:44.000 But we're gonna go to Super Chats.

01:41:46.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?

01:41:49.000 In case you didn't see in the poll, one like equals one prayer for Mr. Bocas.

01:41:54.000 I'm doing that as a joke.

01:41:56.000 I hope everyone realizes that's an old meme from like, Facebook, where they'd be like, one prayer equals, or one like equals one prayer.

01:42:01.000 But uh...

01:42:03.000 52%.

01:42:03.000 The poll was Rest in Peace to the King or Long Live Mr. Baucus, and Rest in Peace to the King is currently winning at 52%.

01:42:10.000 So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com.

01:42:15.000 Click join us to become a member.

01:42:17.000 It was my birthday over the weekend.

01:42:18.000 If you want to give me a birthday present, sign up, support our show, because this show is made possible, thanks in part to viewers like you.

01:42:24.000 We're also going to have that uncensored show coming up at 10pm, and you'll be able to hang out in our Discord server with like-minded individuals, but get in your Super Chats now, because we're going to read them.

01:42:33.000 The first Super Chat we got is Clint Torres, who says, Howdy, people!

01:42:36.000 Remember, in life, one must yee the haw before the haw yees you. 0.71

01:42:42.000 Tim, my deepest sympathies, and rest in peace, Mr. Bocas.

01:42:45.000 Appreciate it, uh, appreciate it.

01:42:47.000 Shane H. Wilder says, Requi- uh, Requi- Requi- Requiscott?

01:42:51.000 Is that how you say it?

01:42:53.000 How do you pronounce that?

01:42:55.000 Requiscat?

01:42:57.000 Impaci?

01:42:58.000 Rest in peace.

01:43:00.000 Uh, Mr. Bocas, what language is that?

01:43:01.000 Latin.

01:43:03.000 Oh, it's Latin.

01:43:04.000 Uh, my love and condolences to the whole Timcast crew.

01:43:07.000 He will be missed, certainly.

01:43:07.000 We grieve with you.

01:43:09.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:43:10.000 says, Baby birds left for dead while baby bunnies lost their head.

01:43:14.000 The terrorizer trounces with perfect timing.

01:43:16.000 A mouse in his mouth was perfect dining.

01:43:20.000 Mr. Bocas, he was the cast cat with the mostest.

01:43:24.000 Matthew Rue says, please keep focus with Mr. Bocas in honor of his time here on Earth and my condolences in regards to his passing and happy birthday for the weekend.

01:43:32.000 So Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience will be retiring.

01:43:36.000 It doesn't feel right to just keep having that up.

01:43:39.000 But we're likely going to launch something in the future that will be called The Legend of Mr. Bocas.

01:43:44.000 It'll be totally different.

01:43:45.000 So I recommend that if you want to get the last remaining bags of Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience or the K-Cups, get them now.

01:43:52.000 Maybe keep them as a collector's item or whatever you want to do, but we're going to be moving those on.

01:43:56.000 And ReRise with Alberto Jr.

01:43:58.000 also.

01:43:58.000 We wanted to do a special holiday thing, but the minimum order was 5,000.

01:44:02.000 So I was like, alright.

01:44:04.000 So it's now several months after Halloween.

01:44:06.000 We still have many of those.

01:44:08.000 But we did launch a promotion for those that are on the email list.

01:44:11.000 There's a promo code.

01:44:12.000 I don't know what it is.

01:44:13.000 But, uh, when you buy Re-Rise of the Birdo Jr., you get 25% off two other bags of Casper Coffee.

01:44:20.000 The one thing I want to say, um, there's a lot of, uh, Mr. Bocas, uh, tweets.

01:44:24.000 Tricky Hickey says, rest in peace to Mr. Bocas.

01:44:26.000 Not first.

01:44:28.000 Uh, I gotta tell you.

01:44:30.000 When I, when, uh, last night after the show, well actually yesterday when I came in to the studio, Mr. Bocas was standing, there's like a, uh, I don't know what it is, I think it's like, is it an air conditioner or something?

01:44:42.000 There's like a box downstairs.

01:44:42.000 It's a mystery box.

01:44:44.000 But it's like some, I don't know, some appliance that we've never opened for some reason?

01:44:46.000 I don't know.

01:44:47.000 And I put a blanket on it for him because he likes to sit in front of the door and watch as people come and go.

01:44:51.000 So, uh, yesterday when I came in, he was standing there with his eyes half open, and he went ROAR at me, and I was like, oh jeez, and you could smell what I assume was urea or something on his breath, because his kidneys were breaking down, and I was like, okay, so I immediately sent out some text like, hey guys, I think he's in renal failure.

01:45:11.000 And, uh, that night at the show, I got a text from my girlfriend, uh, Allison, that he had blood in his stool, and we think, this might be it.

01:45:20.000 He couldn't stand up, he was struggling to walk earlier in the day, and when, uh, Kara tried to pick him up, and I was like, maybe sit with him, he squirmed a little bit, and when she put him down, he just fell to the ground.

01:45:31.000 He couldn't stand up.

01:45:32.000 So we think maybe...

01:45:34.000 He had a stroke, or I don't know if it was a stroke, but he was losing function of his limbs.

01:45:38.000 And so we knew what was coming.

01:45:41.000 This morning, and we didn't know if he was going to make it through the night, this morning we got a text from Karen.

01:45:46.000 She was like, he's groaning, wheezing, he can no longer stand up at all.

01:45:50.000 He's just laying there.

01:45:51.000 And so I, you know, we've constantly gotten recommendations from like vets, bring him in, give him the shots.

01:45:56.000 And I was like, absolutely not.

01:45:58.000 You know, I was talking to Alex Stein about it, and he said, they'll always tell you to bring your animal in to get him put down, don't do it.

01:46:04.000 He said that, you know, one of his cats was dying, it crawled into his lap, and he sat there with it as it died.

01:46:09.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:46:10.000 So I decided, what we'll do is, we will lay him in the grass, we'll bring him outside, because we used to let him go outside all the time.

01:46:18.000 But he started getting sick.

01:46:19.000 We couldn't.

01:46:20.000 We let him outside a couple weeks ago.

01:46:21.000 He collapsed, pissed himself.

01:46:22.000 I think it was too much for his heart.

01:46:24.000 And so I figured, uh, this, if this is his last moment, then we will bring him outside and lay him in the grass so he can have sunshine and fresh air and he can smell everything and it'll be his last moment.

01:46:35.000 But I'll be completely honest, uh, I don't want to prolong his suffering and so I don't want to keep him in the house in the dark.

01:46:42.000 He probably would have lived a little bit longer.

01:46:44.000 I assumed that by laying him in the grass, the cold earth, which was probably around 45 to 50 degrees, maybe between there, would likely begin to pull the heat from his body and he would fall asleep and just die from exposure.

01:46:57.000 I assume that's what happened.

01:46:59.000 Took about an hour.

01:47:01.000 And I just feel like that was the best way to deal with it.

01:47:05.000 Bring him to a doctor where they just stick a needle in him.

01:47:08.000 Sounds just like the most horrible final moments of your life. 0.82

01:47:11.000 Just like, ugh.

01:47:12.000 Well, and in his condition, he could have died on the drive, which would have been... I know, he would have been shocked and scared, and I'm like, let's lay him down in front of the chickens he always loved to stare at, and he wanted to eat them.

01:47:21.000 And as soon as we laid him down, he immediately, like, his head moved a little bit, and you could see they started sniffing.

01:47:27.000 I think he was very excited to, you know, see the chickens.

01:47:30.000 And then he started to fade.

01:47:32.000 The point I want to make with this story is, there was a point where something happened.

01:47:38.000 He was still alive.

01:47:40.000 But I believe it became apparent that his soul left his body.

01:47:43.000 That's the only way I can explain it.

01:47:45.000 He was sitting there, he was struggling to breathe, he was going... His heart was barely going, and then all of a sudden he straightened his body out, his eyes went wide, he kept breathing, but he was gone.

01:47:57.000 And I was like, wow.

01:47:59.000 I was like, that... You know, I'm not gonna pretend that cats have souls, you know, Seamus describes it as there's different kinds of souls or whatever.

01:48:07.000 But it really felt like, before he actually died, whatever Mr. Bocas was, left that body.

01:48:14.000 And what was left was just the body of a cat, breathing.

01:48:18.000 His eyes went wide, and then he just breathes slowly, and then eventually stopped breathing, and then went, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr And I saw the last fleeting moments of his heart, and then all of a sudden it was stillness.

01:48:36.000 It's crazy.

01:48:37.000 And then within, like, a couple hours, his eyes were just, like, white.

01:48:40.000 Like, just... blank.

01:48:43.000 But the point of the story is... It really seemed like there was a point, and I think it was, like, 9.36, His soul was gone.

01:48:56.000 And I'm thinking to myself, like, the entity of death has ferried him on.

01:49:01.000 You ever see that show, Dead Like Me?

01:49:03.000 The point of the show, it lasted two seasons.

01:49:06.000 The point of the show was, before people die, reapers will remove your soul from your body, and you don't experience the death.

01:49:15.000 So I don't know.

01:49:16.000 I don't know the secrets of the universe, but I kind of felt like he had left before his body actually shut down.

01:49:22.000 Yeah, it's like a sacred moment to be there and an animal or a person has died.

01:49:26.000 Unfortunately, I've seen both and it's just unpleasant, but sacred.

01:49:31.000 It's like, you know, when I was with the people, I was unfortunately in hospice.

01:49:35.000 So it's like this very slow, humane, I guess, as humane as it could be, not like a violent death.

01:49:40.000 And then the animals on the farm, they just have to dig their own graves.

01:49:44.000 It was a wildlife.

01:49:45.000 I'm sure the science will tell you.

01:49:47.000 Tim, what actually happened was that his higher brain function shut down as his body went to an emergency mode to protect its internal organs.

01:49:54.000 And what you're actually experiencing was a loss of conscious function akin to a coma.

01:49:59.000 Right.

01:50:00.000 I'm sure.

01:50:00.000 But I don't know.

01:50:01.000 It felt like he was just totally gone.

01:50:04.000 Yeah.

01:50:05.000 All right.

01:50:05.000 Let's read some more Super Chats.

01:50:08.000 Appreciate all of the condolences.

01:50:12.000 Mitchell Foltz says rip Mr. Baucus, another warrior joins the halls of Valhalla.

01:50:16.000 And that's what I told him.

01:50:18.000 I originally wanted to have a Viking funeral.

01:50:20.000 We decided not to.

01:50:21.000 We instead buried a hole outside of Fridamistan and we put a little cross in it.

01:50:25.000 We were putting a cross together.

01:50:25.000 And I think it's funny.

01:50:27.000 I was like, we're all Christians, I guess.

01:50:28.000 So, you know, crosses are the symbols that we use when we mark a grave.

01:50:31.000 Is that why they do it?

01:50:32.000 A cross?

01:50:32.000 Christian nation, you know.

01:50:33.000 Is that why, though?

01:50:35.000 I'm not a Christian, but, you know, I do believe in God.

01:50:37.000 But it's the moral tradition of my people in ceremonial burial to use a cross to mark the grave.

01:50:45.000 Alright.

01:50:48.000 Violi Waioli says, celebrating 17 years with my cat Leo.

01:50:52.000 Today he went to heaven.

01:50:53.000 Thank you for all the love.

01:50:54.000 You'll always be my bubba.

01:50:56.000 Sorry to hear it, good sir.

01:50:59.000 Lasergriff says, so sad about Mr. Bocas.

01:51:01.000 He'll be waiting there for you guys at the Rainbow Bridge.

01:51:04.000 To Valhalla?

01:51:05.000 I mean, he's a warrior.

01:51:07.000 Like, if there was a place he would choose to go, it would be to hunt.

01:51:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:10.000 And to slaughter.

01:51:13.000 We, of course, as everyone gathered around and we buried him.

01:51:17.000 Everyone had stories about how he, like, would mercilessly torture little birds.

01:51:21.000 It's like, yes, yes!

01:51:24.000 I remember one time he caught a bluebird.

01:51:27.000 Broke, maimed it so it couldn't fly.

01:51:29.000 And it was lying on the ground huffing and wheezing and stressing it.

01:51:32.000 And he would just stare at it.

01:51:33.000 And the moment it would try to get up to move, he would just start doing the cat thing where he whacks it until it stops.

01:51:38.000 And so I actually had to pick him up and move him away from it and he started yelling.

01:51:41.000 You're interfering with his rite of passage as a cat warrior.

01:51:45.000 And then we use the air compression rifle to put that poor bird out of its misery. 0.86

01:51:50.000 Bucko's like, so you stole all of my fun?

01:51:53.000 He would do it to mice, too.

01:51:55.000 He would catch a mouse, carry it around, and then he would just torture it.

01:51:59.000 And we're like, aw, the poor kitty. 0.93

01:52:00.000 And it's like, all the poor animals that have been mercilessly tortured by this thing.

01:52:03.000 It's the expression playing with your food, right?

01:52:05.000 I have to imagine that, like, the mice watching us mourn the cat are like, they are with the enemy.

01:52:05.000 Yeah.

01:52:10.000 Evil.

01:52:11.000 Yep.

01:52:12.000 They're not for us.

01:52:13.000 They're against us.

01:52:14.000 Jacob Hawley says, Tim, I am in Haiti helping with relief efforts.

01:52:18.000 The whole government has collapsed, and people are eating each other in the streets.

01:52:21.000 It's astounding.

01:52:21.000 We need help here.

01:52:22.000 No Supreme Court, Prime Minister, President, or Legislature who's in charge.

01:52:26.000 Down there?

01:52:26.000 Are you really?

01:52:27.000 Wow, man, be careful.

01:52:28.000 For real?

01:52:30.000 Are they really eating each other, though?

01:52:31.000 Because I know that the cannibal stuff was like shock and awe.

01:52:34.000 But I am a firm believer that when society collapses, humans will begin to eat each other.

01:52:41.000 We have never seen societal collapse on the scale of humanity today.

01:52:45.000 And so, the machine of energy transfer from outside of cities into cities, you know, food, is a massive industrial machine and network.

01:52:58.000 And if this machine breaks, You go back a hundred years.

01:53:02.000 How long ago was it that the average American family had one cow?

01:53:07.000 They had cows.

01:53:08.000 And so it was actually like one in every three families would have three cows or something like this, but your neighbors would have a cow and you'd have pigs or something like that.

01:53:15.000 And if it really came down to it, you had a means to get food.

01:53:19.000 You would go down, you knew where the farm was to pick up the things you needed.

01:53:22.000 There was a butcher and he got his food source, so you knew you were much more connected.

01:53:26.000 Now it's a grocery store with everything.

01:53:29.000 Suppliers, distribution.

01:53:32.000 With the amount of people living in major cities today, If society were to break down, New York would collapse in three days.

01:53:42.000 People would be drinking blood and eating each other.

01:53:44.000 I am not surprised that we have BBQ, a gang leader, who eats flesh.

01:53:49.000 It's shock and awe, it's not sustenance.

01:53:53.000 If this country goes into civil war, I think people need to understand, the American Civil War in 1861, It was a different time.

01:54:01.000 It was a very rural, agricultural, a lot of development, and the North was mostly attacking the South.

01:54:07.000 There was a limited incursion from the South into the North, where the North was more heavily industrialized.

01:54:11.000 But think about where we're at today with 330 million people in this country, 13 million people in the New York metro.

01:54:18.000 What is Manhattan going to become?

01:54:20.000 If this country actually devolved into civil war, I wonder if the A24 Civil War movie will talk about this, I doubt it.

01:54:28.000 But one of the first moves to make for anyone in a conflict is going to be cut off supply lines.

01:54:33.000 That's 101.

01:54:35.000 Blockade of ports and sabotage of roads.

01:54:39.000 And if New York City can't bring in food, I do not believe there will be a concerted effort from... Let's say that it goes A24 style, where you've got five factions or whatever.

01:54:51.000 Whatever is in control of New York, they're not going to maintain airdrops of food to 2.5 million people on Manhattan Island.

01:54:58.000 Impossible.

01:55:00.000 So if the bridges get sabotaged... Manhattan is an island.

01:55:08.000 That's what happens at the end of the Batman movie, of the trilogy.

01:55:10.000 Right.

01:55:10.000 They take out the bridges and they isolate the city and then they're gonna blow it up.

01:55:14.000 But people would start eating each other.

01:55:15.000 I mean, food stores would run out very quickly.

01:55:16.000 Perishables are gone in three days.

01:55:18.000 What's the time between the toilet paper freakout and then cannibalism?

01:55:25.000 I think within a month, you likely have full-scale cannibal gangs.

01:55:30.000 Jeez.

01:55:31.000 Within a month.

01:55:32.000 But I think it's probable that within a week, you have cannibals.

01:55:35.000 I think it's possible that within three days you have cannibals because people need to drink something.

01:55:39.000 They'll probably die, but I imagine they'll be drinking each other's blood.

01:55:44.000 I mean, you're in Manhattan Island, and if the water stops, what do you do?

01:55:48.000 You can't drink seawater.

01:55:49.000 People will flee the island in mass.

01:55:53.000 And if the bridges are taken out, they'll be swimming across.

01:55:55.000 A lot of people will die, but very few people will remain on Manhattan Island because there's not going to be water.

01:56:01.000 Remember, people, once a cannibal, always a cannibal.

01:56:04.000 This is true.

01:56:04.000 Can't take that back.

01:56:06.000 Reza Aslan is a cannibal. 1.00

01:56:07.000 Always will be, even if he never has another human brain again. 1.00

01:56:10.000 Yep.

01:56:11.000 Yep. 0.53

01:56:13.000 Even if he never does, once a cannibal, always a cannibal.

01:56:17.000 Brian Dayton says, very reminiscent of the Hillary Clinton email case.

01:56:20.000 Yes, she broke the law, but we won't charge her.

01:56:22.000 Same here for Joe.

01:56:23.000 Just more of Democrats getting away with anything they want.

01:56:25.000 Nothing will ever be done.

01:56:28.000 That's right, and Republicans are centrists.

01:56:30.000 The Democrats appointed to go after Donald Trump will say, we will find any reason to criminally charge him, and the Republican appointed to go after Joe Biden says, he did break the law, he did have motive, he was gonna profit off it, he did say he wanted to profit off it, because he wanted to write a book and he was gonna make money from it, but he's a well-to-do old man with a bad memory, so we're gonna let it slide.

01:56:49.000 Didn't they also say he said there was precedence of him being allowed to take the documents?

01:56:55.000 I don't know about that one.

01:56:56.000 I forgot who asked that and where it came up, but that was something else I heard today.

01:56:59.000 But it's remarkable that they were like, it is in the, Robert Hurst was like, it is in the report that he was going to make a book, he intended to, and he knew people wanted to buy it from him, and, you know, that he needed the classified information for that book.

01:57:12.000 And then he's asked, and he warned the ghostwriter to be careful because some of this is classified, yes.

01:57:16.000 And the ghostwriter then deleted the conversation knowing it was illegal and that you were investigating, yes.

01:57:21.000 And then he was like, why didn't you arrest the ghostwriter?

01:57:23.000 And he's like... It's hard for us to say.

01:57:27.000 Yep.

01:57:28.000 There's no answer.

01:57:29.000 There's no answer.

01:57:30.000 Father Ghostwriter didn't get arrested for destroying evidence.

01:57:32.000 Right.

01:57:32.000 Man, it's absolutely wild.

01:57:36.000 WH says average age of the House is 58.

01:57:39.000 Average of the Senate is 65.

01:57:41.000 And rage age and average age of Americans is 38.

01:57:46.000 Not sure the average age of illegals rip focus.

01:57:50.000 What should the average age of Americans be?

01:57:51.000 It should be way lower than 38, shouldn't it?

01:57:54.000 Yeah, I think certainly.

01:57:56.000 In our defense, it's lower.

01:57:57.000 Really? 38?

01:57:59.000 It's old.

01:58:00.000 Yeah, I mean, it's not as old as China or or Korea or Japan But I mean we're trending toward a and I mean just as a context young age is not always good, especially for Countries unstable. 0.99

01:58:13.000 I mean, I think the median age in Gaza is like 19 or 20 the median age in Iraq I believe the average Iraqi citizen was born after The line says, $20 for Bocas, the king, I'm sure y'all have a charity picked out, but if not, please look into Alley Cat Allies. 0.62

01:58:30.000 Shout out first heavyweight UFC champ Mark Coleman, saved his folks from a fire in hospital with smoke inhalation.

01:58:34.000 to have looked like before.

01:58:34.000 Wow!

01:58:36.000 The line says, $20 for Bocas.

01:58:38.000 The King, I'm sure y'all have a charity picked out, but if not, please look into Alley Cat

01:58:42.000 Allies.

01:58:43.000 Shout out first heavyweight UFC champ Mark Coleman, saved his folks from a fire in hospital

01:58:48.000 with smoke inhalation.

01:58:49.000 Wow, shout out Mark Coleman.

01:58:51.000 Yes, so everyone go to casper.com and buy your Alex Stein Prime Time Grind 2x caffeine

01:58:58.000 We're going to take the proceeds.

01:59:01.000 Alex Stein has foregone all proceeds for his coffee brand in lieu of it being donated to a cat charity, which we will do.

01:59:12.000 We will, we will donate that money.

01:59:14.000 We'll see what it is.

01:59:15.000 I can't imagine it's gonna be a ton of money, but the more people buy Alex Stein's two times caffeine coffee, the more that will be donated.

01:59:22.000 And additionally, drink responsibly.

01:59:24.000 It's got two times caffeine.

01:59:27.000 And Alex, Alex Stein's in the hospital for like a heart thing.

01:59:29.000 And I'm like, oh, I hope he's okay.

01:59:32.000 We're laughing now because we assume he's going to be all right.

01:59:34.000 Yeah.

01:59:35.000 You know, so hopefully everything's all right.

01:59:37.000 Well, I think because we're bad people, I don't know what to say.

01:59:39.000 Yep.

01:59:40.000 BrownBear992 says, Tim, have you been following the Sweet Baby Inc.

01:59:44.000 controversy?

01:59:45.000 Also, let's get a Culture War episode just debating the worst U.S.

01:59:47.000 That's actually a pretty good one.

01:59:47.000 president.

01:59:49.000 Yes.

01:59:50.000 So I guess the Culture War, so I don't know, I don't know what's going on.

01:59:53.000 The Culture War team was talking with Pearl Davis and the Daily Wire crew, and we had a date set, and then I guess they canceled and just did the show on their own or whatever, which is they're entirely allowed to do, but I guess the frustrating thing for us is that we did not know they were canceling on us.

02:00:10.000 So like Pearl Davis wanted to do a show where she debates stuff we offered, she said yes, then we started looking for people to bring on, but instead they just, she just went to Daily Wire Studios instead and did it individually with Michael Knowles.

02:00:20.000 And so, our crew didn't know, I guess.

02:00:22.000 That's a bummer.

02:00:24.000 Well, c'est la vie!

02:00:25.000 You know, welcome to a media market.

02:00:27.000 But whatever.

02:00:28.000 You know, so we'll have stuff interesting anyway.

02:00:31.000 We'll have good shows planned.

02:00:32.000 Sorry, we should get Candace on to debate Bridget McCrone. 1.00

02:00:38.000 If she didn't say that out loud, they're gonna take that idea down. 0.99

02:00:40.000 You know, the difficult thing is like, trying to host people who already have their own shows is probably pointless.

02:00:46.000 You know, to do the debate with them, like if it was I was going to be debating, that makes sense.

02:00:49.000 But if they want to debate each other, it makes sense for them to do their own show.

02:00:52.000 Unless they want to be here because it's a neutral platform.

02:00:54.000 Yeah, and I will say Candace just did the Chris Cuomo thing on PBD. 1.00

02:00:58.000 It's possible.

02:00:58.000 Oh, she debated Chris Cuomo?

02:00:59.000 It wasn't so much a debate, but they definitely went back and forth a few times.

02:01:02.000 I want to get Chris Cuomo on Culture War.

02:01:04.000 Yeah.

02:01:04.000 The first thing I'm going to ask him is why did he lie about being in COVID lockdown?

02:01:08.000 Oh, I love that story.

02:01:08.000 Has anyone asked him that yet?

02:01:10.000 I didn't see the Candace thing.

02:01:12.000 I don't know if it was brought up.

02:01:13.000 Because Tucker Carlson talked to him.

02:01:14.000 I didn't see the whole show.

02:01:14.000 Did anybody watch that?

02:01:16.000 I wonder if he was like, you faked being in COVID lockdown.

02:01:18.000 Why would you do that?

02:01:19.000 Yeah.

02:01:19.000 Well, we'll see.

02:01:20.000 Why was your brother a mass murdering governor?

02:01:23.000 Should we invite him on the show and then we'll... No, I'll leave it there.

02:01:27.000 I'll leave it there.

02:01:28.000 We'll invite him on the show.

02:01:29.000 We'll see what he says.

02:01:29.000 All right, everybody.

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02:02:03.000 I'm at Kurt Mills, C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S.

02:02:06.000 Thanks.

02:02:07.000 Awesome.

02:02:07.000 It's been really, really great having you here.

02:02:09.000 I loved all the fun facts.

02:02:10.000 What was that?

02:02:11.000 They're all born within 60 days of each other?

02:02:13.000 Yeah.

02:02:14.000 Trump, Hillary, and Bush.

02:02:16.000 Trump, Clinton, and George W. We're all born within 60 days of each other.

02:02:21.000 Within 60 days of each other in the summer of 46.

02:02:23.000 I love fun facts like that.

02:02:25.000 That's a good one.

02:02:25.000 It's just great.

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02:02:39.000 Guys, thank you so much.

02:02:40.000 Good to see you, Shane.

02:02:41.000 It was fun to be here.

02:02:42.000 I'm Shane Cashman.

02:02:43.000 You can find my books, the Inverted World series online.

02:02:45.000 We'll have the Inverted World live show up soon, I think.

02:02:48.000 And it's gonna be a lot of fun when people call in and talk about crazy stories.

02:02:51.000 I will convince people like Kurt that Joe Biden's a clone and that the clouds are fake.

02:02:55.000 We'll get into that another time.

02:02:56.000 And it was a pleasure being here.

02:02:58.000 I think the goal would be to do Collins, but have it be through the Discord.

02:03:03.000 Yeah.

02:03:03.000 So if you're a member, you sign up, and then you submit your ghost stories or your paranormal experiences or whatever.

02:03:10.000 Weird stuff.

02:03:11.000 Yeah.

02:03:11.000 And then whatever you think happened, Shane will tell you is actually way weirder than you realize.

02:03:15.000 Yeah.

02:03:15.000 I'll let you know.

02:03:17.000 I'll be here.

02:03:18.000 Yeah.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 12, 2024

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