Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Biden Executive Order ALLOWS Illegal Immigration, Biden Granting AMNESTY w-Dave Benner | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Biden has signed an executive order. It's about time on border security. They say.

00:00:27.000 And in his speech and in his presentation, it sounds like he'll be shutting the border down.

00:00:31.000 Technically, that's true.

00:00:32.000 So it's kind of hard to figure out how to word this.

00:00:33.000 But the reality is, it actually sets a threshold that now allows illegal immigration.

00:00:39.000 You see, here's the thing.

00:00:40.000 Crossing the border without using a port of entry is a crime.

00:00:44.000 Joe Biden's executive order sounds like he's saying, we're going to get serious and shut this border down.

00:00:50.000 What it actually says is, so long as the average is $2,500 per day, it is now legal.

00:00:57.000 That's right.

00:00:59.000 Without Congress, because he couldn't get it done.

00:01:02.000 I need you all to understand where we are in this country right now.

00:01:05.000 It is long past... When was the last time we declared a war?

00:01:09.000 The president just does things.

00:01:11.000 The president is now allowing illegal immigration.

00:01:14.000 Joe Biden, according to the New York Post, is granting amnesty so far to 350,000 illegal immigrants.

00:01:21.000 In Wisconsin, they are now filing charges against Trump lawyers, once again.

00:01:28.000 And it's going to keep happening, so we'll get into all those stories.

00:01:30.000 Plus, we've got the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:01:32.000 We've got some interesting stuff.

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00:02:45.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Dave Benner.

00:02:48.000 Hey, Tim.

00:02:49.000 Hey, thanks for having me.

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00:03:11.000 Cool.

00:03:13.000 Hello, everybody.

00:03:13.000 We got Phil hanging out.

00:03:14.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:03:15.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:03:17.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:03:19.000 How are you doing, Hannah-Claire?

00:03:20.000 I'm good.

00:03:20.000 I need a better intro.

00:03:21.000 You guys are putting me to shame tonight.

00:03:23.000 Well, you know.

00:03:24.000 I'll train.

00:03:25.000 I'm a writer for SCNR.com, at Scanner News.

00:03:25.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Rimlow.

00:03:28.000 Really grateful to be part of the team.

00:03:29.000 All them.

00:03:29.000 Let a little spice out.

00:03:30.000 At Tim Kastner.

00:03:31.000 I'm ranting here.

00:03:32.000 Hi, Serge.

00:03:34.000 Hey, what's up?

00:03:35.000 Let's get started.

00:03:35.000 Here we go.

00:03:36.000 We had this from NBC News.

00:03:36.000 Here's the big story.

00:03:37.000 Biden signs executive order drastically tightening border.

00:03:42.000 You know, I just, I just can't, you know, if, if, if we, my friends, Joe Biden's executive order doesn't tighten security.

00:03:51.000 It actually codifies a limit to allow illegal immigration.

00:03:54.000 Okay.

00:03:55.000 Here's how it works.

00:03:56.000 You are not allowed to cross the U.S.

00:03:58.000 border Unless you go through a port of entry and we track who you are and why you're coming here.

00:04:04.000 We do this because there are terrorists and enemies of the state and adversarial nations and actors.

00:04:11.000 And so we want to make sure cartels, drug dealers, people being trafficked aren't actually being brought across the border.

00:04:17.000 Biden's executive order actually says it is now okay up to 2,500 people.

00:04:23.000 The president is just doing things.

00:04:25.000 Congress doesn't matter anymore.

00:04:27.000 Electing Congress doesn't seem to matter anymore.

00:04:29.000 And I'll tell you this, I am furious because, I mean, look.

00:04:34.000 All we ever seem to get is maybe one or two strongly worded letters from members of Congress, and I'm just outraged because where's number three?

00:04:44.000 If we can just get one more strongly worded letter, maybe Biden would finally stop violating the law and the Constitution, and maybe this country would get on track.

00:04:52.000 I'm hoping number three will do it.

00:04:54.000 But short of that, all we can do here is whinge on the internet and tell you once again that we've woken up, the Democrats have done something blatantly illegal, nothing is being done about it, and now we're gonna go to bed, and when we wake up tomorrow, it'll be the exact same.

00:05:06.000 Groundhog Day.

00:05:07.000 Groundhog Day, every day.

00:05:08.000 My name's Bill Murray, I'm just not as funny.

00:05:10.000 I gotta be honest, man, it gets harder and harder every morning.

00:05:13.000 I'm not joking.

00:05:14.000 The morning segment, I do the Tim Pool Daily Show, the podcast, and I wake up in the morning and I'm like, this is the same story from yesterday.

00:05:21.000 Just slight variation.

00:05:23.000 Democrats do illegal thing. 1.00

00:05:25.000 I don't know how much I can add to that.

00:05:27.000 Hey guys, it's 10 a.m., the Democrats have done an illegal thing again, and there's no more context to add because I've said all the context, so have a nice day and I'll see you at 1 p.m.

00:05:37.000 If you feel like really bashing your head against the wall, you could get on the internet and debate with people about whether or not he's actually doing an illegal thing, because there are plenty of people out there that unironically say, no, this is perfectly fine, this is good, this is the proper Procedure.

00:05:54.000 These are actually good.

00:05:55.000 The charges are OK.

00:05:57.000 You know, Ben would never do anything illegal.

00:06:00.000 Man, what are you talking about?

00:06:02.000 This is all straight up. 1.00

00:06:03.000 Donald Trump's the most evil. 0.99

00:06:04.000 I mean, it is it is comical. 0.98

00:06:06.000 It is the same stuff they were saying in 2016.

00:06:09.000 And there are still people that have had absolutely no attachment to reality.

00:06:15.000 Look, I think this is particularly- It's frustrating!

00:06:17.000 Yeah, it is frustrating.

00:06:18.000 I think this is particularly egregious because the Biden administration, Biden came out there and was like, well, I was ready to secure our nation's borders, but congressional Republicans!

00:06:27.000 And you want to be like, you made everything about Ukraine.

00:06:30.000 You wouldn't get a border security bill through without funding Ukraine.

00:06:33.000 Also, this actually does nothing.

00:06:35.000 Does anyone think that- It does nothing.

00:06:37.000 Does anyone think that works though?

00:06:38.000 Do you think that works when he says that?

00:06:40.000 I don't think it works.

00:06:41.000 I just think it's a reminder to the American people that Joe Biden lies all the time.

00:06:46.000 He's constantly lying and I think that's the fact.

00:06:49.000 I think Democrats should be aware of this too because what's interesting about this is that You know, if you if you're watching mainstream media coverage, they're like, well, he might face some backlash from people like they're expecting a pro immigration group to file a challenge to this in court.

00:07:03.000 And that will be the thing, like people from the left, like left, I don't even know how far left Biden is, but they're expecting there to be an attack from people that would otherwise be supporting him. 0.75

00:07:12.000 And it's stupid to me, because ultimately, this is him trying to say at the, you know, Way past the ninth hour at the 11th at the 12th hour. 0.58

00:07:23.000 Hey, I took the border seriously and I wasn't the one who was able to do anything. 0.96

00:07:26.000 So really we need Congress to take action when Congress, we know has tried to take action, maybe not enough, but it's just this weird like shift and skirt that the Biden administration does always.

00:07:36.000 I mean, it's all about normies, right?

00:07:37.000 So I just wonder how many normies are convinced by that.

00:07:41.000 I mean, yeah, I think.

00:07:43.000 Oh, yeah, I was just gonna say, like, regardless of your position on borders, and I imagine I have a different one than some of you here at this table, and that's fine.

00:07:50.000 So you're admitting you're wrong?

00:07:52.000 Yeah, I'm admitting I'm wrong.

00:07:53.000 But no, regardless, there's been a serious shift in kind of the Biden strategy, like you said, Hannah Clare, the ninth hour.

00:08:00.000 So I'm curious, do you guys think that this is more indicative of desperation than, say, agreeing to the CNN debate?

00:08:07.000 This is pretending to the public that there's a shift when his actual goal is to codify, to turn illegal immigration into legal immigration.

00:08:17.000 So this is what we refer to as the Ellis Island strategy.

00:08:20.000 This is what Chase Oliver and the Libertarian Party have advocated for.

00:08:22.000 And there's a reason why we stopped doing it as long ago when we did.

00:08:26.000 We have enemies of this country who have started attacking us.

00:08:29.000 Here's an interesting story.

00:08:30.000 Take a look.

00:08:31.000 Did you guys know that there is a secret room in Grand Central Station?

00:08:35.000 Where?

00:08:36.000 The main switch that controls the trains is hidden in a secret room that doesn't have a direct access to.

00:08:41.000 It's really amazing.

00:08:42.000 Because we feared, during World War II, that someone would come into this country.

00:08:47.000 One person could come in.

00:08:49.000 And if they took a wrench and they stuck it in that machine, the entire train system shuts down.

00:08:54.000 Dramatically hindering the US economy.

00:08:56.000 So, we used to have what was called the Ellis Island Strategy.

00:08:59.000 At the end of the 1800s, it was, the states can take care of immigration, the federal government isn't involved.

00:08:59.000 First, we didn't.

00:09:05.000 Then we said, okay, we need to bring everyone to a central port of entry, figure out who they are, and figure out if they're sick.

00:09:10.000 We had a bunch of doctors and immigration specialists, people would come in, they'd check to make sure they weren't bringing diseases, and within a few hours, they'd say, okay, welcome to the United States, have a good time.

00:09:19.000 Eventually, the numbers started to overwhelm Ellis Island, and they said, we can't really do this anymore.

00:09:24.000 There's way too many people.

00:09:25.000 So we need a standardized and national legal process.

00:09:28.000 Joe Biden is trying to bring back this, anyone can come in and go anywhere they want.

00:09:33.000 Anyone who's paid attention to the past 20 years knows this does not work.

00:09:37.000 Anybody who advocates for this system, like this is why we're very critical of the Libertarian Party, doesn't pay attention to modern history at all.

00:09:44.000 The best example, of course, being Sweden.

00:09:46.000 Sweden brought in a bunch of Somalis in the 90s and then said, you can go wherever you want.

00:09:52.000 They formed enclaves.

00:09:52.000 What happened?

00:09:54.000 They went to areas like Rinkeby, where this is a neighborhood in Rosengarden.

00:09:58.000 Rosengarden now is predominantly more Middle Eastern refugees, which creates an enclave where women are being forced to wear hijab.

00:10:05.000 Then you have in Rinkeby, Somali refugees had children.

00:10:08.000 Those kids grew up surrounded by Somalis who don't actually, they did not integrate properly with Sweden. 1.00

00:10:15.000 So they view the police as an external authoritarian force against them.

00:10:19.000 They don't listen to them.

00:10:20.000 They don't abide by those rules.

00:10:21.000 And it started creating a bunch of gang violence.

00:10:23.000 To where?

00:10:24.000 A few years ago, in Saudi Artalia, a gang of people, Somali, in a vehicle, I think they were the children of Somali refugees, with a full auto machine gun unloaded onto a bank, just spraying into the building.

00:10:37.000 They don't see themselves as part of this country.

00:10:40.000 It's happened in the UK, it's happened across Europe.

00:10:42.000 The reason why we don't just have open borders is because we want people who come here to be given an opportunity.

00:10:48.000 That means we need to find out where the best economic opportunity is, and you don't just say, come on in and go wherever you want.

00:10:54.000 You end up with enclaves which isolate themselves and form states within states.

00:10:59.000 You end up with pockets like in Minnesota where they say they're there to represent Somali interests in the United States.

00:11:05.000 You are creating external groups within the United States who act in defiance and counter to our wishes as a nation, which causes problems.

00:11:15.000 What Joe Biden's doing with the executive order is saying, What we all knew, it's illegal to cross the border.

00:11:20.000 Go to a port of entry, fill out the paperwork.

00:11:22.000 Now he's saying, I'm gonna shut this border down!

00:11:25.000 Only 2,500 people are now allowed to cross the border every day.

00:11:29.000 Which is, it's an amazing manipulation.

00:11:33.000 It's an amazing manipulation.

00:11:34.000 It is illegal now to murder, let's say this, stealing from a bank is illegal.

00:11:39.000 Imagine if the mayor of a city came out and said, We're gonna crack down on these bank robberies.

00:11:44.000 You know, this John Dillinger.

00:11:46.000 And, you know, Babyface.

00:11:47.000 Whatever the guy's name was.

00:11:48.000 What was that guy's name?

00:11:49.000 I can't remember his name.

00:11:51.000 If they rob two banks, we're gonna stop them from robbing the third.

00:11:55.000 What?

00:11:56.000 You're basically saying they're allowed to rob banks now?

00:11:58.000 That's what Biden's doing.

00:11:59.000 Yeah, it's very much not about actually stopping anything but getting their way and looking like they were the ones to take action.

00:12:06.000 That's what frustrates me about all of this messaging, because really, Joe Biden created this problem.

00:12:12.000 He's not solving it.

00:12:13.000 And he's turning around and saying, Actually, you guys didn't agree with me and give me what you want and therefore you didn't offer a bipartisan solution.

00:12:19.000 It's akin to a small child having a tantrum and still getting their way anyways.

00:12:23.000 Like, I just think this is not of service to the American people and it shows you how little Joe Biden takes this seriously.

00:12:30.000 This whole proclamation comes like two days after the New York Post report, I don't know if you guys saw this, where they That's not true.

00:12:36.000 into the asylum cases. There's like 340,000 that have gotten dismissed.

00:12:42.000 Not meaning that the people who were claiming asylum are deported, they just

00:12:45.000 no longer have any kind of formal contact with the government. But they're

00:12:48.000 still in America, they're just sort of in a limbo position making it, you know,

00:12:52.000 easier for them to live in between and people say, oh they can't get work

00:12:56.000 permits, like they're here illegally. That's not true, they're getting work

00:12:58.000 permits. Yeah, I know.

00:13:00.000 This is the claim, though, because they're outside of the asylum.

00:13:02.000 They're like, oh, well, now there's all kinds of—no, there's not.

00:13:04.000 They're just here illegally doing the same thing as every other illegal immigrant. 0.97

00:13:07.000 And this was something—it's essentially mass amnesty that the Biden administration has slipped by and is trying to ignore.

00:13:13.000 Like, this is what's so frustrating, which is that the Biden administration caused this problem.

00:13:18.000 Troy Neals had this statement today, Congressman Troy Neals from Texas, where he was like, all he had to do was leave what Trump had established in place and we would be OK.

00:13:26.000 And instead— That's the most frustrating thing.

00:13:28.000 The politicking that has gone on since the Trump administration in the attempt to just signal that Trump was wrong.

00:13:40.000 Consequences be damned. 0.96

00:13:42.000 Reality be damned, right? 0.97

00:13:44.000 All we have to do is negative Trump policy. 0.74

00:13:49.000 That will automatically be good.

00:13:51.000 That is because The almost the entirety of the Democrat party is completely consumed by their ideology. 0.91

00:14:00.000 You cannot believe that Donald Trump is actually like a Nazi, right?

00:14:06.000 Like you can't actually really believe that. 1.00

00:14:09.000 They're insane people. 0.71

00:14:10.000 Take a look at this tweet from Ginny Tehr. 0.79

00:14:12.000 Migrants in any of the following categories are exempt from Biden's asylum restrictions.

00:14:16.000 Unaccompanied minors, those who claim credible fear, those who come from countries that won't 0.98

00:14:21.000 accept deports, like China, those with medical emergencies, and trafficking victims.

00:14:25.000 Mexico doesn't accept deportees.

00:14:28.000 None of that stuff sounds unreasonable.

00:14:30.000 I mean... No, no, no.

00:14:31.000 The issue is his executive action is an opportunity for him to go on TV and say, the Republicans have blocked me, so I'll do it by executive order.

00:14:39.000 I'm securing the border. 0.94

00:14:40.000 And all of his ignorant and naive voter base, default liberals, go, oh, see, you know, he's getting stuff done. 0.97

00:14:46.000 And what they don't realize is everything he's doing emboldens illegal immigration. 0.96

00:14:51.000 Well, the credible fear qualifier seems like it could be the most ambiguous thing of all time, right?

00:14:57.000 Yes, intentionally.

00:14:57.000 Of course.

00:14:58.000 Potentially so, maybe.

00:14:59.000 Let's jump to this story.

00:15:00.000 We have this from the New York Post.

00:15:02.000 Senator demands Biden end covert mass amnesty by dismissing thousands of immigration cases.

00:15:09.000 This was the big news, also by Jenny Teer.

00:15:12.000 Republican Senator Josh Hawley is pressuring the Biden administration to end its practice of dismissing thousands of asylum cases, effectively giving migrants mass amnesty.

00:15:21.000 So the Post reported 350,000 migrants were simply released.

00:15:26.000 Their charges evaporated from the system, meaning they now live here with

00:15:33.000 It's amnesty.

00:15:36.000 Look, I'm sorry, there's no law anymore.

00:15:38.000 Law and order has ceased to exist.

00:15:40.000 I want to stress this.

00:15:40.000 Really?

00:15:42.000 350,000 people are now living in the United States in limbo, legal status.

00:15:48.000 They do not face deportation at all.

00:15:51.000 They cannot be deported.

00:15:52.000 They have no cases against them.

00:15:53.000 They also don't have, right now most of them, social security numbers, tax ID numbers, or work permits.

00:16:00.000 So what is this?

00:16:01.000 It is legal limbo created by the Biden administration and they are creating a second class citizen base.

00:16:08.000 These people are going to work under the table. 0.89

00:16:09.000 They're not going to pay as many taxes because they're working under the table and they're just going to live here forever.

00:16:14.000 That's the Biden administration and there's millions and millions of people more and they're going to be dismissing many more of these cases.

00:16:20.000 I think the worst part is the fact that the Biden administration and again the Democrats have been Accusing anyone that that would say, hey, look, we have to stop this.

00:16:30.000 You know, the argument has always been or has in the past 15, 20 years has been you're a bigot.

00:16:35.000 It's not actually an argument about policy.

00:16:38.000 It's an immoral ad hominem attack.

00:16:42.000 That does no, that does no one any good.

00:16:46.000 And it doesn't make for good policy either.

00:16:48.000 So I don't know why you can't get a policy discussion in it.

00:16:54.000 Well, I mean, actually, I do know why, because they don't want to have a policy discussion.

00:17:00.000 But that is the case.

00:17:02.000 And it's hard to deny that now.

00:17:04.000 But I think we're good.

00:17:05.000 I was worried for a little bit, but I think we're good now.

00:17:08.000 The Post is reporting that Hawley sent a letter to Alejandro Mayorkas asking him to explain how they're tracking individuals after terminating their cases.

00:17:17.000 I was concerned for a minute there.

00:17:18.000 There was no strongly worded letter being sent out.

00:17:21.000 But that's all I wanted.

00:17:23.000 I just wanted to be able to shake my fist at the criminals that are ripping this country to shreds.

00:17:27.000 Just shaking my fist.

00:17:29.000 And then I'll go back to sitting on my massage chair, eating wings, and watching poker.

00:17:33.000 Well, Mayorkas is really good at being accountable.

00:17:35.000 He's very honest.

00:17:37.000 He always says, like, this is not true at all.

00:17:39.000 This is a guy who the House impeached, remember.

00:17:42.000 And I just don't think anything's ever going to happen.

00:17:43.000 I mean, if that was not symbolic of the Biden administration, that there is a crisis.

00:17:48.000 The guy who is in charge of answering questions through this was impeached by at least half of Congress.

00:17:54.000 And then they're still like, we'll probably keep him in place.

00:17:56.000 He seems pretty good to us.

00:17:57.000 This is something that people should need to acknowledge or should take notice of.

00:18:01.000 It's exceedingly hard to end government programs...

00:18:06.000 to fire people in government, to get rid of public sector unions, all this kind of stuff

00:18:11.000 that's involved with the government, especially the feds, it's super hard to get rid of.

00:18:17.000 That's why it's supposed to be a limited federal government that doesn't have a lot of powers.

00:18:23.000 So that way if they make something that's going to be impossible to get rid of, it is intended to

00:18:30.000 have been arduous to create in the first place.

00:18:34.000 And yes, there are some things that are difficult and there is a lot of gridlock.

00:18:39.000 I think we need more of it.

00:18:41.000 Gridlock is good.

00:18:42.000 Yeah, when they don't do anything, I like that.

00:18:46.000 The only thing I don't really understand is why a lot of people that want strictly controlled borders want to just defer those powers to the federal monopoly, so the Feds have a monopoly power on it.

00:18:58.000 To me, it's like there'd be much stricter border controls if that's your kind of thing.

00:19:02.000 Because the Feds demand in Abbott or Arizona that Jan Brewer… It's because the Constitution mandates it. 1.00

00:19:08.000 It's because it's mandated.

00:19:09.000 You don't have a choice.

00:19:12.000 It's not an enumerated power.

00:19:13.000 The federal government doesn't have the authority to do that.

00:19:16.000 They do have power over naturalization, but not to create a border.

00:19:19.000 I'm pretty sure the issue constitutionally between Texas and the federal government was that, and I think the Supreme Court ruled this, that it's not within the power of a state to deport.

00:19:31.000 They say that, and then Abbott claimed that there's a constitutional prohibition that allows him to exert that if there's an invasion taking place.

00:19:39.000 Whether it's an invasion, he's claiming that he has the ability and impetus to decide that.

00:19:44.000 As far as immigration itself, the first time the Feds even claimed a monopoly on immigration authority was the 1875 Page Act.

00:19:51.000 Right.

00:19:52.000 Going back and being like, look, you don't have this power is exceedingly unproductive.

00:19:58.000 But think about what that means.

00:20:02.000 If we defer to states for immigration, then Arizona, Nevada, Texas, all these countries will build borders and set up checkpoints to keep people out from entering.

00:20:14.000 And I'm talking about within the United States.

00:20:16.000 Arizona especially, because California would instantly say, anyone can come.

00:20:21.000 And then what they'll do is they'll bring them all in, give them California IDs and say, now go off into the land and wherever you want to go.

00:20:27.000 And then you're going to end up with physical conflict.

00:20:29.000 I mean, it's happening.

00:20:31.000 You had a Venezuelan illegal immigrant shoot two cops. 1.00

00:20:34.000 Because we don't know who these people are.

00:20:36.000 We don't know where they're coming from.

00:20:38.000 What we do know is many of these people are criminals with criminal histories coming here to escape accountability in their home countries.

00:20:47.000 Because Biden's going to let them in.

00:20:49.000 They're going to get free stuff.

00:20:50.000 They're going to get taxpayer money.

00:20:51.000 So I'll argue this.

00:20:54.000 If libertarians want to argue for open borders, before we get to that, we have to get to ending the welfare state.

00:20:59.000 We all agree.

00:21:00.000 So let's end the welfare state.

00:21:01.000 No welfare for literally anybody.

00:21:03.000 Then we'll start arguing over whether there can be borders.

00:21:06.000 What's your take on border security?

00:21:07.000 You just think... Yeah, no, I believe in privatized borders, just like Hoppe and Rothbard, I'll cite them.

00:21:12.000 And if you say that that's a pie in the sky thing, I think federal suppression of the border is a pie in the sky thing that won't happen.

00:21:18.000 So I, you know, much of the borderlands... Why won't it happen?

00:21:22.000 And how do you explain the fact that they've been actually You know, having a border.

00:21:26.000 There's a border in between us and Canada.

00:21:30.000 Yeah, because I mean, it's the impetus of the Welfare State.

00:21:33.000 I think there's something to that.

00:21:34.000 But on the southern border, regardless of the composition of the legislature, whether it be Reagan, Reagan had a semi amnesty in 85 or whatever it was, and Trump hasn't shut it, didn't shut it down in his first administration.

00:21:45.000 I see no reason to think that it will ever be shut down.

00:21:49.000 That's not because of the federal policy.

00:21:51.000 That's because there's the... Do you... Okay, I actually know.

00:21:54.000 Do you believe that it's because it's not possible, or do you believe it's because the government lacks the will?

00:21:59.000 Yeah, primarily the latter, which is why I think it's not possible.

00:22:02.000 I mean, we don't have many people in Congress that would fight tooth and nail because of voter blocks.

00:22:08.000 I think that that's it, even on the Republican side.

00:22:11.000 This is one of the reasons why I'm strongly against illegal immigration, and we absolutely need to set a limit on immigration in general. 0.74

00:22:20.000 California is a great example of how we got to where we are today.

00:22:26.000 The simple analogy that I use every single time, it's got a real-world analog in California.

00:22:31.000 You live in a house with a roommate.

00:22:33.000 Your roommate invites some guy to sleep on the couch.

00:22:36.000 You say, hey, I don't agree to this.

00:22:37.000 And then you get into an argument.

00:22:38.000 He says, let him just stay here for a little bit.

00:22:39.000 You say, okay, fine.

00:22:41.000 A week later, you guys are like, let's vote on what's for lunch.

00:22:43.000 And you want pizza.

00:22:44.000 And they both want wings.

00:22:46.000 And then you're like, well, what the hell?

00:22:47.000 Why is he voting against me? 0.57

00:22:48.000 He's a guest.

00:22:49.000 And they're like, he lives here, too.

00:22:51.000 Then, the next day, another guy shows up, sleeps on the recliner, and you're like, I didn't say he could live here.

00:22:57.000 I'm like, well, we voted, and it's two against one, he's allowed to live here now.

00:23:00.000 This is what happened in California.

00:23:02.000 They allowed a bunch of illegal immigrants in, granted amnesty, created people who had no ties to the community living in the state, and then when the state tried to shut down the welfare state, all of those people That now had connections to family members who were illegal immigrants or did not live in the country, like protested it. 0.69

00:23:19.000 There was mass protests.

00:23:20.000 There were riots.

00:23:21.000 And then that was the end of California's Republican state.

00:23:25.000 You let—and new citizens, we got 3.5 million new voters, new citizens now granted the right to vote since 2020, and they support Democrats 56%.

00:23:35.000 You let people into your house who don't support your values and want to send money outside of your country, they're going to vote for it.

00:23:45.000 Why would you let someone into your house who wants to take your stuff and sell it to vote for the ability to take your stuff and sell it?

00:23:52.000 That's what's happening in this country right now.

00:23:54.000 Our resources are being gutted and extracted.

00:23:59.000 You look at that video in Boston where there was that black dude trying to go to the community center and the cops blocked him.

00:24:03.000 Why?

00:24:04.000 It was given to illegal immigrants.

00:24:05.000 And he's furious.

00:24:08.000 This is what's happening.

00:24:09.000 The things that you build for your children are being given away because Democrats want open borders and that will be the end of this country.

00:24:18.000 We are already to a point where Young Millennials, it was Tyler Hansen.

00:24:22.000 Tyler Hansen?

00:24:22.000 Am I getting his name wrong again?

00:24:23.000 Taylor Hansen?

00:24:24.000 I always mix up Tyler and Taylor.

00:24:26.000 He was interviewing some people.

00:24:27.000 I retweeted it.

00:24:29.000 He asked these two lefties if illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote.

00:24:31.000 They said, yeah, of course.

00:24:32.000 If they leave here, they can vote.

00:24:34.000 Well, that's the end of your country.

00:24:36.000 Period.

00:24:36.000 That's it.

00:24:37.000 It's over.

00:24:38.000 Because they're going to be like, dude, there's a rich guy who lives in Beverly Hills.

00:24:41.000 He's got a big mansion.

00:24:41.000 It's $40 million.

00:24:42.000 He's letting anybody come in.

00:24:44.000 I'm going to bring all my friends.

00:24:45.000 We're going to come in and we're going to vote to take it from him.

00:24:46.000 And he's going to let us do it?

00:24:48.000 Well, and it raises the need for citizenship and civic participation as a component of voting, right?

00:24:59.000 I guess I don't totally understand your position, in part because I would be happy if the states did more to secure the borders.

00:25:04.000 Under our current administration, they're saying, no, you can't do that, right?

00:25:08.000 But if we're going to have a federal government, which again, I agree with you, maybe the federal government shouldn't have a monopoly on controlling the border, but I would much rather see our forces, both our military resources and our literal personnel forces, at the border securing the country we all are a part of than being like, well, it's cool.

00:25:24.000 Just go to Ukraine. 0.94

00:25:25.000 That sounds good.

00:25:26.000 I think ultimately we forget that immigration affects how our culture develops over time and to say, It's cool to show up is not the same thing as maintaining a strong and civic minded population.

00:25:39.000 And to be just clear here, it's not my ideal for it to be kicked back to the states, although I think that would be better than the status quo, especially for places like Texas and Nevada, and I'm sorry, Arizona.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:50.000 But my ideal is privatizing the borders and allowing individual property owners discretion over who comes into their territory.

00:25:58.000 And there could be like a sponsorship component to that, like, hey, I assume some of the legal liability for this guy.

00:26:03.000 A lot of the borderlands have been taken by eminent domain.

00:26:07.000 And again, I know this is like a radical thing, but that's my position ultimately, in the ideal.

00:26:12.000 But what about in the practical?

00:26:13.000 I think kicking it down to the states is a better ideal.

00:26:16.000 And to Tim's point, I think there's nothing about Tim's point that was wrong.

00:26:19.000 But I also think that I have as much of a kindred association to people in California than I do to like people in Mongolia.

00:26:27.000 I say that's the federalist experiment.

00:26:29.000 You let them do that and you let border states be able to make restrictions of who comes into that state.

00:26:35.000 And we have federalism as a model where people can vote with their feet and go where they think the society will flourish better.

00:26:42.000 But it sounds like you're just saying national divorce.

00:26:45.000 I'll say that too.

00:26:46.000 National divorce.

00:26:47.000 Yeah, like each state should be its own sovereign state and go back to a non-existent federal government with weak powers.

00:26:53.000 I'm for that too.

00:26:53.000 Yeah, are you an anarchist?

00:26:54.000 Yeah, I'm an anarchist.

00:26:56.000 And it all comes out now!

00:26:58.000 Yeah, but if that's the case, then why would you respect a state having the same powers?

00:27:03.000 I don't respect it, but compared to the status quo, I do, because number one, I think it's constitutional, and number two, I'm a radical decentralist, and that's a better thing to me than allowing Washington, D.C.

00:27:13.000 to control it.

00:27:14.000 Because the extension of that argument is, why don't we allow the U.N.

00:27:17.000 to control it?

00:27:19.000 Because they're not the United States.

00:27:20.000 And we have an elected government.

00:27:20.000 Agreed.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, and I don't respect Washington D.C.

00:27:23.000 for the same reasons I don't respect globalists at the U.N.

00:27:27.000 But we elect representatives and then send them to D.C.

00:27:30.000 So it's a big difference.

00:27:31.000 I mean, the U.N.' 's got appointees and they do whatever they want.

00:27:33.000 Congress, the problem is the current state of corruption in this country.

00:27:37.000 I mean, the Founding Fathers did a fantastic job of putting together this system.

00:27:41.000 Three branches of government was brilliant, the way they checked each other.

00:27:44.000 You've got effectively a monarchy, you've got a democracy, and you've got a council of elders all in one form of government.

00:27:51.000 Quite brilliant, actually.

00:27:52.000 The problem now is modern technology is clashing with the system.

00:27:57.000 Population expansion makes it very, very difficult to manage any of this.

00:28:01.000 But I guess the libertarians who are in favor of national divorce and decentralization will likely get their wish because this system can't exist. 0.97

00:28:10.000 And I'm not saying it shouldn't or should.

00:28:13.000 I'm saying literally it can't.

00:28:14.000 It's like looking at someone pouring milk into a gas tank.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, they will not go.

00:28:19.000 And what we're seeing now, let's jump to this next story.

00:28:21.000 We're here in the conversation.

00:28:22.000 We have this from the post-millennial.

00:28:23.000 Biden and Min hands out millions of work permits to new illegal immigrants despite 180 day waiting rule.

00:28:30.000 A six month waiting rule for asylum seekers applying for work permits was implemented in 1996 by the Immigration and

00:28:35.000 Naturalization Service.

00:28:36.000 But they're just doing it anyway.

00:28:38.000 They're granting amnesty.

00:28:40.000 They've given 3.3 million illegal immigrants work permits.

00:28:43.000 Okay, our economy is in the gutter.

00:28:45.000 People can't afford to eat food.

00:28:48.000 Inflation is through the roof.

00:28:49.000 This is going to crank it up to 11.

00:28:52.000 So I'm gonna say this and I'm not saying that it's about like murderous stuff and I don't want people to like to make this weird thing.

00:29:02.000 But like, when the Nazis were clearly going to lose World War Two, they decided to turn up the the ovens and throw more and kill more Jews.

00:29:12.000 It's almost as if they have the same thing.

00:29:13.000 It's like, it's like the Biden administration is like, we're gonna lose power.

00:29:17.000 So we just have to shove as many people in as well.

00:29:21.000 They may be thinking, we are going to lose.

00:29:23.000 It's not and we need to shatter the country.

00:29:25.000 We need to shatter the country so that we can control the portion that we've cracked off from it.

00:29:31.000 I think there is a level of that.

00:29:32.000 I mean, the thing about all, I would include some unrestricted forms of legal immigration, but definitely illegal immigration is about, in my opinion, replacing the population that's here and making a collection of people who feel indebted to you and or as though you are the one who's going to be more likely to, you know, potentially grant them whatever they need.

00:29:54.000 And that's actually kind of abusive, in my opinion.

00:29:56.000 The Biden administration, I think you're totally right.

00:29:59.000 I think they are looking down at the final, Six months of his term and saying we got to make stuff happen fast.

00:30:05.000 One of the things I had always heard was that Biden would grant mass amnesty in the final months of his administration after the election just to sort of give the next president a headache to deal with and to be able to say, well, look at me.

00:30:18.000 I'm more compassionate than the Republicans were.

00:30:20.000 I think this is the kind of thing that should anger average Americans.

00:30:25.000 I always accept the fact that the average American has a lot on their plate.

00:30:28.000 It's extremely difficult to afford anything right now.

00:30:32.000 Monitoring our nation's immigration system might not be the top priority.

00:30:37.000 Any time the government has gone after you for your taxes or anything else, you should look at this and say, actually, they don't like me.

00:30:43.000 They like these other people more.

00:30:44.000 They like people who aren't from this country and for the most part, economically, are probably not invested in our long-term national growth. 0.99

00:30:51.000 They're invested in individuals, in their individual security and also sending money to family members in other countries, which I don't see as a positive thing.

00:31:01.000 The Biden administration was always going to be trying to virtue signal on these issues and it's always going to come at the cost of the American citizen.

00:31:11.000 Any kind of policy that is essentially disregarding the law overall.

00:31:17.000 Laws don't apply to Joe Biden.

00:31:20.000 They apparently don't apply to anyone that's currently in the administration and they don't matter to people that aren't in the administration because they'll just make some stuff up if they want to talk to you in jail.

00:31:37.000 So, I mean, the fact that the law has kind of It's frustrating because it is really, really hard to see it as any other way, and it's not something that's new either.

00:31:49.000 It's not like this is some kind of...

00:31:52.000 You know, some kind of thing that conservatives have been talking about just now piping up about 20 years ago, 15 years ago, conservatives were like, look, the media is against us.

00:32:02.000 And it was like, no, no, they're not.

00:32:04.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:32:05.000 They're not against the against conservatives.

00:32:07.000 And it was, you know, the media doesn't have a bias.

00:32:07.000 They're not.

00:32:09.000 And then it was like, well, OK, maybe now we've got literally The government trying to put the leading candidate, the actual leading candidate, in jail.

00:32:21.000 So... Yeah, they'll print headlines like this and then the next one will be, this is proof that no one is above the law.

00:32:27.000 Unreal. 0.82

00:32:28.000 And I'm not a Trump fan, but I think that's absolutely ludicrous. 0.94

00:32:32.000 This system can't exist. 0.83

00:32:33.000 Right?

00:32:35.000 I'm not saying it should or shouldn't.

00:32:36.000 I won't repeat that.

00:32:37.000 But it can't.

00:32:38.000 And the problem is... You can't make a car out of cheese.

00:32:41.000 You just can't do it.

00:32:44.000 I don't want to have any kind of like...

00:32:49.000 It's not like I'm happy about this, but the U.S.

00:32:51.000 is the global hegemon.

00:32:52.000 So if the U.S.

00:32:53.000 falls apart, the whole rest of the world is going to get wild.

00:32:58.000 Like, wild wild.

00:32:59.000 And that's probably why China's been dumping U.S. 0.97

00:33:02.000 dollars and buying gold like crazy.

00:33:03.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:33:04.000 Gold and Bitcoin.

00:33:05.000 Gold is $2,337 or something like that.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, it's $2,300, $2,400 right now an ounce.

00:33:06.000 Really?

00:33:07.000 Gold is $2,337 or something like that.

00:33:12.000 Really?

00:33:13.000 Yeah, it's $2,300, $2,400 right now an ounce.

00:33:16.000 Six months ago, last year, it was under $2,000.

00:33:20.000 Wow.

00:33:20.000 Yeah, 2,328.

00:33:21.000 Like 1,800, 1,900.

00:33:21.000 Last year was under 2,000.

00:33:21.000 Wow.

00:33:22.000 Last year it was under 2,000.

00:33:25.000 Like 1,800, 1,900.

00:33:27.000 What's your take on the work permit situation?

00:33:30.000 Well, I don't acknowledge that, again, the federal government has any leeway when it

00:33:35.000 comes to regulatory authority over immigration.

00:33:37.000 But at the same time, this is clearly breaking the law.

00:33:40.000 So when it comes to the law and arbitrary dictatorial powers that are akin to like a 17th century emperor, I guess I'll side with the former if I have to pick between those two.

00:33:50.000 But again, you know, it's just clear how arbitrary this government is.

00:33:55.000 It would make a lot of the founders blush when they're talking about condemning the British government, how arbitrary we are now, I think.

00:34:02.000 Do you think that's the challenge that libertarians have?

00:34:04.000 Like you're saying, ideologically, I don't think that this should happen, but practically, this is the challenge we're facing.

00:34:08.000 I feel like libertarians, and we see this played out on a lot of issues, have high ideals, but then they have to face reality, and sometimes it doesn't apply.

00:34:16.000 That's the libertarian quandary on a lot of things, that's to be sure.

00:34:21.000 How do you reconcile with it?

00:34:22.000 Well, to reconcile it, I tried to dictate in my head what the moral extension to every issue is, and then just take things in a relative sense.

00:34:31.000 I think some things are better than others.

00:34:33.000 I would rather have a constitutionally limited government that's actually adhered to compared to an arbitrary despot, for instance, although I'm not convinced.

00:34:41.000 I think that's kind of a utopian belief that there is a limited government, at least in the U.S., and I think the last decade is very big proof of it.

00:34:50.000 See, we were having this conversation with Michael Rechtenwald, and I don't believe he gave us an actual answer, or a sufficient one.

00:34:57.000 And then I had the conversation with Michael Malice, and he gave a much more well-thought-out answer, but still one that I found lacking.

00:35:04.000 We were talking about the privatization of police, and the monopolization of power and violence.

00:35:09.000 And I was saying that a private police force won't work.

00:35:14.000 Police are… they act as arbiters, they exert authority to enforce law, and then you are brought before a judge and, depending, a jury, to figure out the extent of this.

00:35:28.000 Now, the system is broken because there's too many people.

00:35:31.000 There's not enough judges.

00:35:31.000 There's not enough time in the court.

00:35:33.000 No judge wants to deal with this.

00:35:35.000 Next!

00:35:35.000 They're just going, next!

00:35:36.000 I don't want to deal with this.

00:35:36.000 I don't care.

00:35:37.000 So now you've got these bail hearings that they're not really hearings anymore.

00:35:40.000 They just say yes or no.

00:35:41.000 We don't care.

00:35:42.000 You get people in overcrowded jails.

00:35:44.000 System is clearly not working.

00:35:45.000 That being said, the idea of privatizing police literally makes no sense at all.

00:35:49.000 And I've never been given any logical or coherent answer.

00:35:53.000 Michael Recton-Wall's response was, you would just have different police departments in your area and you would choose which one to pay for.

00:36:01.000 And I'm like, so what happens when, you know, Jim- Jurisdiction.

00:36:04.000 The jurisdiction can't be answered.

00:36:06.000 So Jim comes to, you've got two towns, you've got Springfield and Shelbyville.

00:36:10.000 Jim from Springfield goes to Shelbyville and punches a guy in the face, and then flees.

00:36:15.000 Shelbyville calls their police, the police go to Springfield and say, that guy punched our guy in the face, and he goes, help, police, strangers from the town over, a private company are trying to kidnap me.

00:36:24.000 And then his police confront those police.

00:36:27.000 Michael Maus's response was, mafias negotiate all the time. 1.00

00:36:30.000 It's like the mob.

00:36:31.000 And I'm like, and the mob also would go into people's neighborhoods and say, we are the protection racket in this town, pay us or else.

00:36:37.000 And if you don't, they start smashing up all of your stuff until you pay up.

00:36:41.000 So that doesn't make sense.

00:36:44.000 You can, in the scale of government we have now, there is no logical system in which we say, Different factions of armed, authorized individuals will enforce laws based on how we want them to be in our jurisdiction.

00:36:58.000 But Tim, it happens all the time today in terms of like insurance disputes.

00:37:02.000 For instance, if you have like State Farm and Allstate and we have dispute, you know, it goes to our insurance providers and they... Are people happy with their insurance companies right now?

00:37:11.000 I don't know, but I don't think they're happy with the cops either.

00:37:14.000 They're absolutely not happy.

00:37:15.000 Cops too, in many cases.

00:37:17.000 Agreed.

00:37:17.000 And so the issue is, this system doesn't work.

00:37:19.000 Let's do another system that doesn't work.

00:37:21.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:37:23.000 I think if we're going to be talking about solutions to the problems we're seeing, there should at least be a sound, logical, here's the map, here's the morality, this works.

00:37:31.000 Or it doesn't.

00:37:32.000 But the idea of saying insurance companies negotiate all the time and mafias negotiate all the time, it's like, everyone hates their insurance company. 0.98

00:37:40.000 Insurance companies deny claims all the time.

00:37:42.000 You're gonna call your private police force and say, a guy robbed me, and they're gonna say, and?

00:37:45.000 And you're gonna be like, what am I paying you for?

00:37:47.000 And they're gonna say, then don't.

00:37:48.000 What are you gonna do about it?

00:37:49.000 If you don't pay us, then you've got nothing.

00:37:51.000 And you're gonna go, I guess I won't pay you then.

00:37:54.000 Then you have literally nothing in any circumstance.

00:37:54.000 And then what?

00:37:57.000 Now, of course, I love this meme where a guy says, where would we be if we didn't have police after someone robbed you?

00:38:05.000 The meme is like...

00:38:06.000 How could we survive without police?

00:38:08.000 After getting robbed, you need someone to tell you, what am I going to do about it?

00:38:11.000 Right?

00:38:12.000 That's the argument.

00:38:13.000 But there still are circumstances where police do things.

00:38:15.000 And we have problems with quotas.

00:38:17.000 We have problems with cops giving tickets when people didn't do anything wrong.

00:38:20.000 Sure, all that stuff.

00:38:21.000 But most interactions, out of hundreds of millions, are not negative, people have with police.

00:38:26.000 So the issue ultimately comes down to, libertarians argue there should be police, just not the hierarchy of jurisdictions.

00:38:35.000 And it should be voluntary.

00:38:37.000 And then you run into the problem of private companies will try to cut costs at every corner and deny you claims and do their best to make sure you keep paying without them giving you anything.

00:38:48.000 So then you run to the jurisdictional crisis of You know, I watched a viral video today of city police and sheriffs were getting into a fight over jurisdiction because a sheriff didn't inform the local cops what was going on.

00:39:00.000 Those things happen.

00:39:01.000 But then you have higher branches of government at the state level that oversees all of them to prevent shootouts between two private organizations.

00:39:10.000 So, like, even in a circumstance where you have private police, it ends with them mandating you pay.

00:39:17.000 By force.

00:39:17.000 Like, fire departments didn't used to be public, they were private.

00:39:20.000 You bought an emblem, you put it on your house, and then if there's a fire, they'd rush out, see the emblem, they'd put the fire out.

00:39:26.000 No emblem, they don't.

00:39:28.000 And then it became public over time, because the monopolization of the system, not because people were forced to do it, everyone just kind of agreed, like, well yeah, you gotta have a fire department.

00:39:36.000 The problem is, if my house burns down and I don't pay for the emblem, then your house burns down next, because the fire spreads.

00:39:43.000 So it's like, no, we have to have fire and safety and security.

00:39:47.000 I certainly don't agree with taxing everybody 56% or whatever, but yeah, I don't see a reality in which we would allow...

00:39:55.000 non-citizens to come into this country, work and do whatever they want, and displace the labor. 1.00

00:40:01.000 I'll put it really simply, actually.

00:40:02.000 Let's cut it all the way down.

00:40:03.000 The roads.

00:40:04.000 Everyone's favorite argument when it comes to libertarians.

00:40:07.000 If me and my buddy put together a road and we build it, and then you start allowing illegal immigrants to come onto the property, and I say, stop, and then they're like, deal with it. 1.00

00:40:16.000 And I'm like, I gotta pay now?

00:40:18.000 Out of my pocket?

00:40:19.000 For security?

00:40:19.000 Because you are bringing these people onto my road?

00:40:23.000 Now my costs go up because you are violating my rights.

00:40:26.000 So why should I have to deal with that?

00:40:29.000 I like the idea of limited government, but I like the idea of adjudication where I can say, hey, we have an agreement that you don't bring these people in because when they use my roads as wear and tear, we pay for it, we maintain it, we allow people to use it within limited reason, but you let people come on, now it's destroying it, I'm going to ask the court to tell you to stop.

00:40:50.000 That seems to work pretty well in my opinion.

00:40:52.000 I'll say there's a lot of industries that are much less regulated than roads and we somehow make do with them very well, like groceries and things like that.

00:41:00.000 In many places the roads, you know, food markets, in many places the roads work very well, almost completely privatized, like in Japan where the company JR, you know, builds out a lot of those roads.

00:41:12.000 I think food is more regulated than roads.

00:41:15.000 You think so?

00:41:16.000 I'm pretty sure that's true.

00:41:17.000 And even if it is, a lot of the times governments contract with independent, you know, road builders to build the roads anyways.

00:41:23.000 So you're kind of conceding that, you know, private contractors build these roads anyways.

00:41:29.000 Right, and it's maintained through, like, there's a government inspector who comes in to make sure the road's working, and if it's not working, then people complain and they bring it to their city, the city then has a budget pooled from people's resources.

00:41:39.000 You think they're held more accountable than if it was a private entity?

00:41:43.000 Like, if the roads are looking good?

00:41:44.000 Yes.

00:41:45.000 Okay.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, because I grew up with a bunch of these issues with private roads.

00:41:51.000 And they have tolls that were supposed to be temporary to pay for it.

00:41:57.000 They become permanent.

00:41:58.000 And then you're just paying the city privatized parking.

00:42:01.000 Oh, I love this.

00:42:02.000 I love this.

00:42:03.000 Chicago privatized public streets.

00:42:06.000 And it resulted in everyone getting tickets and getting their cars towed.

00:42:10.000 What are you gonna do about it?

00:42:13.000 It's a private company.

00:42:14.000 Private company comes, says, it's our road, we have the rights to parking, you gotta pay what we demand or else.

00:42:19.000 And I'm like, well, why did we do this?

00:42:21.000 Why did we allow private entities to control our roads, and then tow my car, and then when I go to the government and say, why was my car towed?

00:42:28.000 They go, we don't handle that, that's a private company.

00:42:30.000 I'm like, yeah, that was a mistake.

00:42:31.000 Then I call the private company and they go, what are you gonna do about it?

00:42:35.000 And I said, why did you take my vehicle?

00:42:36.000 They said, because we control the rights to parking.

00:42:39.000 And I said, you stole my car.

00:42:41.000 And they're like, good luck.

00:42:42.000 You want to go to court?

00:42:42.000 It's a civil violation.

00:42:44.000 They go, hey, look, man, that's civil.

00:42:44.000 You call the cops?

00:42:46.000 That's not criminal.

00:42:47.000 That's a dispute you have over financing.

00:42:49.000 They're the parking authority.

00:42:51.000 Then you go to court?

00:42:51.000 Congratulations, you're going to lose.

00:42:54.000 Yeah, this was really, really fun when we found out all of our parking was privatized. 1.00

00:42:57.000 Stupid. 0.99

00:42:59.000 Well, let's jump to the next story from the AP. 1.00

00:43:05.000 Part of me actually kind of finds this very funny, because this is Kenneth Chaseboro being charged, Jim Troupas, and Mike Roman.

00:43:18.000 I can't speak for Mike Roman.

00:43:20.000 But Kenneth Chaseboro pleaded guilty in Georgia on similar charges, and then implicated Trump.

00:43:26.000 And so I'm just like...

00:43:28.000 You know, if you betray someone, and then more bad things come your way, don't expect any sympathy from me.

00:43:35.000 This is why the lowest level of hell—was it the ninth?

00:43:41.000 It's reserved for traitors and the disloyal.

00:43:45.000 And rightly so.

00:43:47.000 So it's funny watching, like, Jenna Ellis, you know, talk about Trump or whatever, and, like, she has some critical comments about something.

00:43:55.000 I tweeted, facetiously, I hope Trump goes to jail.

00:43:58.000 And then I commented in a video game, I'm, like, just trolling.

00:44:02.000 And it's kind of a neutral statement, because if Trump goes to jail, his polls go up, his donations go up.

00:44:06.000 So it's kind of like, well, yeah, whatever.

00:44:07.000 Literally, we don't want him to go to jail. 1.00

00:44:09.000 And then she made some comment like, these people are so dumb. 1.00

00:44:11.000 And I'm like, lady, you cried on TV and blamed Trump for everything. 1.00

00:44:15.000 These people deserve prison, and I hope nobody backs them up.

00:44:19.000 However, in all seriousness, Wisconsin is now adding to criminal charges of Trump's lawyers.

00:44:26.000 So understand where we are as a country.

00:44:28.000 Joe Biden is granting amnesty to noncitizens.

00:44:31.000 And regardless of your position, maybe you were for open borders.

00:44:35.000 Well, it has to be done through the will of the people and the law.

00:44:39.000 Congress is how we implement these things.

00:44:43.000 I don't know what comes next.

00:44:43.000 Here you go.

00:44:45.000 I mean, they're trying to shut down Alex Jones' show.

00:44:47.000 He's got two weeks.

00:44:49.000 They're attacking media.

00:44:50.000 They're arresting lawyers.

00:44:52.000 They're trying to imprison the frontrunner for the presidency.

00:44:56.000 I do not see a reality where things get, let's call it, lighter.

00:45:01.000 I certainly think that the actions they're taking are indicative of us gaining ground and winning.

00:45:07.000 When you watch UFC fighters jump up and meet Trump, Aaron Rodgers, everybody's shaking his hand, they love the guy.

00:45:12.000 Trump raising two hundred and some odd million dollars in a few days, record-breaking.

00:45:16.000 TikTok account growing to... Millions!

00:45:18.000 Crazy.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, what is it now, five something million or more?

00:45:21.000 So, the death throes of the political establishment will not be pretty.

00:45:27.000 I hope Trump wins, because It will still be dark, but the night is always darkest before the dawn.

00:45:35.000 And then we can start repairing and fixing these things, maybe bring this country back from oblivion.

00:45:38.000 Think about what it's going to be like should Trump win.

00:45:41.000 There's going to be a lot of pushback by people that are currently working for the government.

00:45:49.000 And I'm not sure what that looks like.

00:45:55.000 But things have been crazy, man.

00:45:57.000 Do you think the American people are tired of these cases?

00:45:57.000 You know.

00:46:00.000 Pardon me?

00:46:01.000 All of these cases of, you know, the ones in Arizona or the ones in Georgia or the one in Wisconsin now.

00:46:06.000 Like, do you think the American voter, the average American voter is like, this is really making a big difference for me?

00:46:11.000 Or do you think it's just sort of political vendetta?

00:46:14.000 I don't think the average American voter knows exactly how much lawfare is going on right now.

00:46:19.000 I think they probably know that Trump's in court and they probably know one or two.

00:46:25.000 most likely the New York and the classified documents cases, or in my sense, that those

00:46:34.000 are the ones that they know most about.

00:46:37.000 They might have confused or combined the Stormy Daniels and also the real estate stuff.

00:46:51.000 They might have combined all that into one thing in their head because it's happening

00:46:55.000 in New York.

00:46:56.000 So if you've got just a bird's eye view or whatever checking in every once in a while,

00:47:02.000 it's like, oh, the New York one, oh, the DC one.

00:47:04.000 I don't think they realize how bad things are.

00:47:08.000 And I think the average person, if they realize, if they actually look into it, I think they'll

00:47:12.000 be like, yo, that seems messed up.

00:47:13.000 At the very least, they'll be like, I may not be a lawyer, but that seems wrong.

00:47:18.000 You know, I feel like that's the sense people would have.

00:47:21.000 In every conflict, in every country, most people don't care.

00:47:25.000 Name a confident history, people don't care.

00:47:27.000 People care about where's the food coming from.

00:47:29.000 When they wake up, what am I having for breakfast?

00:47:31.000 Revolutions start when food prices are too high, not when politicians are involved in scandals.

00:47:36.000 So right now, the real crisis is political instability combined with a crumbling economy.

00:47:42.000 What they're doing with the border is exacerbating the economic crisis, seemingly intentionally.

00:47:48.000 I think You know, I look at what the Biden administration is doing as the cartoon where, you know, Goofy or whatever's on the boat, and a hole pops, and he's, you know, and then he puts his finger in it, and another hole pops, and he puts his finger in it, and then he puts his toe in it.

00:48:01.000 They can't control what's going on.

00:48:03.000 They're trying to maintain their international liberal economic order power, and they can't.

00:48:09.000 So they are effectively just breaking the system instead of... You know, I look at it this way.

00:48:16.000 Donald Trump, his plans and policies will probably result in Americans working harder, but having more and having security along with what they have.

00:48:25.000 The Democrat uniparty policy was, bomb other countries, establish petrodollar dominance, and then we can keep printing dollars forever, and our economy will be strong because we have guns pointed at everybody.

00:48:36.000 That's not working.

00:48:38.000 It's been faltering for the past 20 or so years, getting worse and worse and worse, with Iraq and Afghanistan, and now today with Ukraine, it is failing.

00:48:50.000 I look at it and I'm thinking, Donald Trump's probably got it right.

00:48:53.000 Secure the border, bring our jobs back, start producing things at home, because we are not going to maintain the liberal economic order anymore.

00:49:01.000 The United States does not produce enough to maintain its economic standards.

00:49:07.000 If you go the Biden path, The hegemonic power of the United States crumbles.

00:49:12.000 Ukraine lost.

00:49:13.000 It's hilarious how bad they're losing.

00:49:15.000 The Red Sea.

00:49:16.000 All of these things lost.

00:49:17.000 And then you have crumbled infrastructure.

00:49:21.000 No means of starting up your economy again.

00:49:24.000 You go with Trump, you secure the border, you bring factories back, you bring jobs back, you start developing chips.

00:49:29.000 I know Joe Biden also has made moves for the Chips Act, Arizona, etc.

00:49:33.000 Trump got rid of TPP, Trans-Pacific Partnership.

00:49:36.000 Start focusing on this country, working to protect its people and finding jobs, improving our culture, educating young people, and then when the liberal economic order collapses, and it will, we will be safe, secure, and producing things that generate value and keep our economy healthy.

00:49:53.000 Yeah, I'm with you on the importance of the kitchen table issue compared to almost any of this other stuff to the average voter.

00:49:59.000 But, I mean, the people that pay attention, I know blue dog Democrats hand it clear to your point that, like, they say, why does this keep happening?

00:50:05.000 Like, I don't like Trump, but let's just let it play out.

00:50:08.000 And that's not, you know, the hardcore base necessarily.

00:50:12.000 You know, this is a generation that watched James Clapper lie under oath about NSA data collection and watched, you know, Sandy Berger stuff documents from the National Archives down his pants and get off on probation.

00:50:24.000 Like, they know, some people know that there's something wrong with them.

00:50:27.000 Those people are, there's like seven of them.

00:50:31.000 Like, not kidding around, most people, like, think about man on the street stuff, that's 95% of America.

00:50:39.000 No, I agree with you on that.

00:50:41.000 But there are, there are the remnant that does... When it comes to the people that are politically aware, yes, there are some, and there are, this audience obviously is more politically aware than the average.

00:50:52.000 YouTube has more politically aware people than the rest of, you know, than other social media sites.

00:50:59.000 That doesn't mean that there are enough to make a difference, because there aren't.

00:51:05.000 Because if there were, they'd have done it, right?

00:51:08.000 Like, I love a lot of libertarian ideas and stuff like that, but the Libertarian Party hasn't done anything.

00:51:15.000 The closest thing they've done He's got Donald Trump to look at him and be like, hey, you guys have some ideas that I could work with if you'll vote for me.

00:51:24.000 And then what did they do?

00:51:25.000 They flipped him off because they don't like winning.

00:51:28.000 They like showing off that they don't like the government.

00:51:30.000 That's what they are there for.

00:51:32.000 So there's no chance that Ross is going to get off then or that he'll put libertarians in his cabinet as he elects?

00:51:39.000 Absolutely.

00:51:39.000 Trump will.

00:51:40.000 I think that Trump would do all those things.

00:51:43.000 There's zero drawback for him to not do or to do them.

00:51:48.000 There's no political negativity.

00:51:50.000 He doesn't have to worry about a second term.

00:51:53.000 He doesn't like the The intelligence apparatus at all.

00:51:58.000 So he doesn't respect that stuff.

00:52:00.000 He'll be like, if it pisses him off, happy.

00:52:02.000 I'm, you know, I'm into it.

00:52:03.000 There's no reason for him to not.

00:52:06.000 Now, I'm not saying it's a guarantee that he will or that he can, but he has done more to make overtures towards libertarians than any Any actual presidential candidate, save for the man Ron Paul himself, who else has done it that hasn't been running for the Libertarians?

00:52:29.000 He's made overtures?

00:52:31.000 Look, I love Angela's idea.

00:52:34.000 If you're in a blue state, vote for Chase.

00:52:37.000 Well, I was just going to say, does that lead you to believe, to grant some credence to Angela and perhaps the Libertarian Party spearheading this thing if that gets consummated, potentially?

00:52:37.000 Right?

00:52:47.000 And I'm not sure it is, to be clear, but I hope so.

00:52:49.000 If you are a Mises Libertarian in a blue state, vote Trump.

00:52:53.000 If you're a woke progressive, I don't care who you vote for.

00:52:55.000 That's fair.

00:52:58.000 I want to speculate a little bit.

00:52:59.000 No, vote Trump either way.

00:53:01.000 If I can convince at least one woke person to vote Trump, I guess, or whatever.

00:53:04.000 I want to speculate a little bit about which Libertarian Trump would put in his cabinet, because I think there are some, you know, registered Republicans, but like Thomas Massey is a Libertarian, right?

00:53:14.000 Would he be?

00:53:15.000 Is this who we're talking about?

00:53:16.000 I'm curious to know who this Libertarian is, because I agree with you, I think Donald Trump would come through, but I want to know who it is.

00:53:23.000 I think that if the Libertarian Party is smart, They would get Justin Amash or someone like that.

00:53:31.000 Most likely Justin because he's trying to get into the Senate anyways, right?

00:53:35.000 Do you know what position you'd want to see him in, in terms of the cabinet?

00:53:37.000 I would love to see him.

00:53:39.000 I mean, to be honest with you, I'm not sure what would be best.

00:53:43.000 Trump's talking about getting rid of the Department of Education, so I don't care.

00:53:47.000 Put them in HUD.

00:53:48.000 Put them in, you know, I don't care where.

00:53:52.000 It doesn't really matter because what I want them to do is strangle the life out of wherever they're working.

00:53:59.000 I want them to... But who is the target here in terms of like restricting their progress?

00:53:59.000 Right?

00:54:06.000 If Donald Trump actually would get rid of the Department of Education, like you said, then that would mean that that one's off the table because I'm just going to be gone.

00:54:15.000 Thumbs up.

00:54:15.000 So great.

00:54:16.000 Check that off the list.

00:54:17.000 Check that off the list.

00:54:17.000 I'm most skeptical of that one.

00:54:19.000 I mean, look, we can be skeptical all day, but again, these are the best options ever offered to libertarians in history.

00:54:28.000 These are the most... This is the issue I have with... I think libertarians and communists have one thing in common.

00:54:35.000 They believe in a utopian reality that can't exist.

00:54:38.000 They're dreamers.

00:54:39.000 And I often hear, that's not real libertarianism.

00:54:43.000 I do.

00:54:44.000 It's like, hey, a massive private company took over our parking and we are going to super chat, like, Hal Galey saying, that's a corporation.

00:54:50.000 It's the statehood.

00:54:51.000 It's a private entity that takes the cars away and there is no government enforcement against them.

00:54:51.000 No, no, no.

00:55:00.000 A private tow truck comes and takes my car.

00:55:03.000 And then I say, how do I stop that from happening? 0.99

00:55:05.000 And they say, shut up.

00:55:07.000 Well, if they breach the contract, you can take him to court. 0.98

00:55:09.000 Oh, wow.

00:55:10.000 I got the money for that.

00:55:13.000 I mean, the same follies happen regardless of, you know, the solution, I think.

00:55:17.000 Agreed.

00:55:18.000 So at least there's a constitution within government and limits and oversight which grants me some protection from nefarious private actors.

00:55:26.000 But nothing's more utopian than saying that that's consistently applied, and we see it in the Trump case.

00:55:30.000 No, you didn't.

00:55:31.000 But I'm just saying that there's problems from the utopian perspective by thinking limited government is going to continually limit itself because the words on the parchment are your ideas.

00:55:31.000 You didn't, Tim.

00:55:42.000 The issue is this.

00:55:43.000 The point I'm bringing up is...

00:55:45.000 Donald Trump, no new wars.

00:55:47.000 Donald Trump, timeline for withdrawing our troops in the Middle East.

00:55:50.000 Donald Trump tried to get our troops out of Syria.

00:55:52.000 He was lied to, and they maintained our troop presence in there.

00:55:54.000 Donald Trump also made mistakes. 1.00

00:55:56.000 Firing 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria was stupid. 1.00

00:55:59.000 They targeted an airport, and Syria had forewarning that it was going to happen, so I don't think there was any injuries, which was a weird, stupid thing. 1.00

00:56:06.000 They say Donald Trump increased drone strikes. 0.72

00:56:08.000 Well, yeah, as you're withdrawing your troop presence and you want to maintain security, you're going to use drones, and that's a good short-term answer to pulling our troops out.

00:56:16.000 Donald Trump negotiating peace agreements in the Middle East.

00:56:18.000 Donald Trump negotiating peace with North Korea.

00:56:21.000 And then I talk to libertarians, and they're booing and screaming and smashing the wall saying Trump bad.

00:56:25.000 And I'm like, dude, if you want to live in a utopia, Where an empire built over 100 years is dismantled in two seconds, go play Civilization, enter in a consul command that disables empire and dissolves one of your enemy nations.

00:56:40.000 If you want to live in the real world, you have to recognize that the best thing we've gotten in 40 years in terms of ending war has been Donald Trump.

00:56:48.000 And there are libertarians who are like, no, boo.

00:56:50.000 And I'm like, okay, then live in your utopia and win nothing.

00:56:53.000 And that's what we get.

00:56:55.000 Nothing.

00:56:56.000 That's why I'm like, Chase Oliver, that was hilarious.

00:56:59.000 The Libertarian Party has done so well under Angela with the rise of the Mises Caucus, but this one was just said, I guess.

00:57:09.000 I could ask for nothing more because this means the Mises Libertarians are probably voting for Trump, so I'll take it. 0.97

00:57:14.000 You're a Mises guy, right? 0.99

00:57:15.000 Hardcore, yeah.

00:57:16.000 Okay, so can you explain what happened with your presidential pick this year?

00:57:20.000 Oh, man.

00:57:21.000 Oh, boy.

00:57:22.000 Alas.

00:57:22.000 Wait, with the presidential pick, are you asking what happened to get Chase Oliver?

00:57:26.000 Yeah, how did we get to Chase Oliver?

00:57:27.000 Yeah, I'll try to make it as succinct as possible.

00:57:29.000 A lot of people were on board with Dave Smith.

00:57:31.000 For a while, Dave Smith was openly flirting on running.

00:57:34.000 And he's since, you know, said, you know, I apologize for bowing out as a family decision.

00:57:39.000 I'm going to respect that about him.

00:57:41.000 But Mises took it within their own gumption to explore some other candidates.

00:57:46.000 The who's who gamut of the biggest libertarians in the country were talked to, I know, by Michael Heiss, the chair of the Mises caucus.

00:57:54.000 And eventually Michael Recktenwald agreed to do this.

00:57:56.000 He was one of the prominent libertarians that agreed to do this.

00:58:00.000 He's an expert on DEI, ESG, etc.

00:58:02.000 I think he's been here talking to you guys.

00:58:04.000 And it was basically old garters generally supporting Chase.

00:58:08.000 That's very simplistic.

00:58:09.000 There were other candidates involved and the hardcore Mises people supporting Recktenwald. 0.80

00:58:13.000 It went through eight rounds, I believe, and the third place guy, Mike Termat, made a deal

00:58:18.000 with Chase Oliver to be his vice president and essentially throws endorsement behind

00:58:23.000 him.

00:58:24.000 It moved enough of the room.

00:58:25.000 To be fair, I mean, Recktenwald, I don't understand why he was the choice.

00:58:30.000 Why was he the Mises choice? 0.97

00:58:33.000 Many alternatives were talked to and turned it down and he was considered one of the most prominent ones that were, you know, were considered for it.

00:58:40.000 He's an expert in several fields.

00:58:42.000 He's brilliant on on wokeness, DEI, ESG, stuff like that.

00:58:45.000 Can you maybe tell me why Chase Oliver was appealing to the old Guard of Liberians?

00:58:50.000 Because it's interesting to me that, like, I know it was kind of contentious this year, but you reelected Angela, the Mises chair, which is fascinating.

00:58:58.000 But then still you're saying, you know, ultimately there were enough people supporting non-Mises candidates to pick this guy.

00:59:07.000 He's definitely not someone I would pick, but obviously I'm not a member of the party.

00:59:10.000 I don't know what the internal working's like.

00:59:12.000 No, I can totally understand that confusion.

00:59:13.000 It's a few things.

00:59:14.000 One of it is that the presidential race ended very late in the night on that last Sunday night when many Mises people had gone home. 0.94

00:59:21.000 It looked like attrition hurt us more than the opponents, that we kind of waged this... So like actual Mises delegates didn't vote?

00:59:28.000 Some of them didn't because some of them went home.

00:59:30.000 They had plane tickets that had, you know, were going home.

00:59:34.000 We tried to tell people stay till Monday.

00:59:35.000 We kept saying it.

00:59:37.000 And then another reason is that Angela actually has, you wouldn't know it from Twitter all the time, but she has a broad amount of appeal from a lot of what we call friendlies or people that are kind of indisposed.

00:59:47.000 So I can understand the confusion behind that.

00:59:49.000 Yeah, because I definitely feel like the things that I've heard about the Libertarian Party is definitely embracing of the Mises Caucus, but it is interesting that then you have this guy who I don't think is very representational of that segment of the party.

01:00:02.000 But it does speak to the fact that libertarian as a party actually has to bridge a greater divide ideologically than maybe other, you know, Republicans or Green Party or, you know, whatever else.

01:00:14.000 The Libertarians nominated the pro-vaccine mandate guy.

01:00:18.000 I don't know if he ever explicitly said that, but he did push COVID propaganda at the height of the COVID regime.

01:00:24.000 He said he opposes the government mandating it, but he's for businesses being allowed to mandate.

01:00:29.000 And anybody who was paying attention would know that, anybody who has a memory, the mandates were actually private.

01:00:34.000 The reason—so it was actually, by choice, many venues, many businesses were choosing vaccine mandates.

01:00:42.000 There were health guidelines that were never enforced.

01:00:45.000 You couldn't sue the government for it.

01:00:46.000 The private businesses would just say, no, we require it because we choose to.

01:00:50.000 So I actually don't think that should be allowed.

01:00:52.000 So that's why I'm not libertarian.

01:00:54.000 I think there should be public agreements as to if you're going to occupy space that is shared by people and provide a service, you can't arbitrarily ban people and create things like... And this is exactly why.

01:01:07.000 We don't want to live in a world where People form coalitions and then decide, like, okay, we're all private entities and we hereby agree, libertarians, anybody who supports Mises, anybody who supports Rothbard, you cannot buy burgers from our restaurants, you cannot use our trains, you cannot use our buses.

01:01:25.000 I'm like, no, no, no, no, that's going to create conflict and violence.

01:01:29.000 We should not allow arbitrary distinctions like that.

01:01:32.000 It should be, you can kick anybody out if they're causing a disturbance, if they're violent, if they're refusing to pay, call police, we'll figure it out.

01:01:40.000 But the idea that we allowed private entities to mandate a medical procedure And it was private.

01:01:46.000 It was all private.

01:01:46.000 A lot of it was forced by the hand of government, let's be clear, or caused in lieu of the government propaganda being pushed and then those businesses adapted to that propaganda.

01:01:56.000 A lot of it does have its root in the state and Fauci and the NIH.

01:02:00.000 Private music venues is a really great example.

01:02:02.000 We're choosing the bands.

01:02:04.000 And it wasn't because the states were forcing them to do it.

01:02:07.000 So when Chase says, I don't think the government should mandate, but private businesses can, I'm like, OK, then New York locks down.

01:02:13.000 Because what happens is Antifa goes around, smashes windows and says, why aren't you mandating vaccines?

01:02:18.000 And every business says, we'll do whatever you say.

01:02:20.000 Also, you'll have people saying, oh, you know, if you're if you don't have a mandate, then you're going to be in an actionable position.

01:02:27.000 I can sue you if I get sick.

01:02:29.000 And as soon as that comes on the table, everyone locks down.

01:02:33.000 And that is still a function of the state, the fear that there will be action.

01:02:37.000 But you take a look at cultural forces that I think that we want to restrict.

01:02:44.000 Colbert going on his show and doing segments called The Vaccine, mocking and belittling, and you ended up with private actors choosing to lock down.

01:02:53.000 So I say, no, you can't mandate medical procedures.

01:02:57.000 These are violations.

01:02:58.000 But libertarians – I feel that many of them are very much the same as communists in that – and I do agree with a lot of the actual intelligent, well-read libertarians.

01:03:12.000 The Ron Paul libertarians tend to get it more correctly.

01:03:15.000 The other libertarians who nominate people like Chase are, I am completely OK with oppression, suppression, and violence so long as it comes from private actors.

01:03:23.000 And that's it.

01:03:25.000 It's like, OK, well, I'm not OK with that.

01:03:28.000 I don't think we should allow private entities to abuse and control people.

01:03:32.000 When you have like three big companies, In one area.

01:03:37.000 And then they all start, you know, locking people out in some way.

01:03:41.000 This is what we have government going with antitrust and start breaking these things up to prevent them from doing these things.

01:03:46.000 Suppressing, oppressing, and overcharging and manipulating people.

01:03:52.000 There we go.

01:03:52.000 Problem solved.

01:03:53.000 We figured it all out.

01:03:54.000 I mean that's happened sometimes in the that's the problem with libertarian.

01:03:56.000 I'm like I love libertarianism as a philosophy or as an idea but but it's it runs into reality

01:04:03.000 and essentially that was the this is the same ideas that the the framers of the Constitution

01:04:11.000 struggled with.

01:04:12.000 You know they said things like if men were angels then government would be unnecessary

01:04:16.000 and that's the that's a true thing.

01:04:18.000 The point was look we consider government a necessary evil.

01:04:23.000 And so that was very foundational to the U.S.

01:04:26.000 But the problem is you've got a situation where the tension now is between people that think that the government is a People that think of the government that we have, which is the largest government in human history, they think that it doesn't have enough power and it doesn't have enough reach.

01:04:43.000 So I love libertarian ideas, but we got a long way to go before I start to get towards libertarian ideas.

01:04:51.000 I think libertarian ideas of like sound currency and ending foreign wars are good ideas.

01:04:56.000 But I think the general, you know, absolute privatization makes literally no sense.

01:05:01.000 I accept that when you decentralize a system and you go into private markets, you have less corruption, but the coalescing of power happens rapidly, and then you end up with a different kind of government.

01:05:12.000 So the benefit to decentralizing is that you get a period of competition, which improves things, and then you end up with a monopoly again in the end, because power coalesces, regardless of whether it's government or not.

01:05:25.000 Like I said, fire departments didn't used to be public.

01:05:26.000 They were private, but then eventually ubiquity turned them public.

01:05:30.000 Well, the monopolies are being built actively by the state regulatory apparatuses.

01:05:34.000 How's that?

01:05:35.000 Because they grant trade privileges to certain companies.

01:05:38.000 They don't even allow, for instance, you know, competitors to, you know, the big pharma companies to come to market.

01:05:44.000 Sometimes it takes years and years and years, and there's 20-year patents on many of the drugs to come to market.

01:05:50.000 It's why you see certain pharma giants just consolidate all this power, and there's only, what, five or six of them that we can name, maybe.

01:05:57.000 The same thing happens in other industries and telecommunications.

01:06:00.000 To be fair, when it comes to like pharma and stuff like that, I understand it's real popular to beat up on pharma, but it's not like, you know, doing the things that pharmaceutical companies do is not cost intensive.

01:06:15.000 It's not like it's something that you can just, I'm going to start up a pharmaceutical company to make generics.

01:06:21.000 I mean, it takes major, major investments.

01:06:23.000 This is a really good point brought up by Hal Gailey in Super Chat saying, you've already argued it's not your choice to ban guns in venues for your events because your hand is forced.

01:06:31.000 You argue the opposite on vaccine mandates?

01:06:32.000 No, that's literally my argument.

01:06:34.000 Private entities choose to do the vaccine mandates.

01:06:37.000 That's literally the point.

01:06:39.000 So, I've long said, I believe in the Second Amendment.

01:06:42.000 If you want to have a gun, have a gun.

01:06:43.000 If you want to come to an event that we're having, and I don't care if you have your gun, that's fine.

01:06:47.000 And if I choose to stand in front of a crowd of people and someone tries to hurt me, that's living life.

01:06:51.000 I walk around all day every day, people recognize me.

01:06:53.000 This is the world we live in.

01:06:55.000 However, can't do it.

01:06:59.000 And it's not because of the government.

01:07:01.000 Government doesn't force us.

01:07:01.000 It's because you can't get insurance, you can't get a bank loan, and you can't get private security.

01:07:06.000 That's why.

01:07:07.000 So, what happens is, Private business.

01:07:10.000 This is the problem with Chase.

01:07:11.000 This is why we need a government action that says you cannot require vaccines and medical treatment for public accommodation.

01:07:22.000 Because what happens is, and this is literally what happens, Insurance company for the business says, Hey, look, we, there's a pandemic going on.

01:07:30.000 We don't want to take the risk that someone files a lawsuit against you.

01:07:34.000 We don't know what's going to happen, but we don't want to assume that risk.

01:07:37.000 So we want you to require people to get vaccinated during this pandemic.

01:07:42.000 And if you don't, we'll drop you.

01:07:44.000 The business says, if we don't have insurance, we will shut down overnight if someone slips and falls.

01:07:49.000 So they do it.

01:07:50.000 And so this is how it goes.

01:07:52.000 Private security, insurance, say, if you allow guns into your venue, we will not provide you a service.

01:08:00.000 If we don't have insurance, the bank calls our mortgage and shuts the building down.

01:08:04.000 There's other private security services that do allow it, and private security plays out a lot of different places.

01:08:12.000 We have not found any private security that would allow guns into a show with several high-profile actors in a small room.

01:08:18.000 They just say, are you kidding?

01:08:20.000 How can we even provide security if you're going to have 60 people in here that are armed?

01:08:23.000 And I'm like, so then you don't want to do it?

01:08:25.000 They're like, we won't do it.

01:08:26.000 Then our insurance company says, you have no security for your events, we won't insure the event.

01:08:30.000 Then our bank says, if you don't have insurance, then we're not going to keep this loan open.

01:08:33.000 The entire U.S., you don't think such a security service exists that would do that?

01:08:39.000 Sure.

01:08:40.000 I'm just asking you.

01:08:40.000 I could be wrong.

01:08:41.000 No, for sure, for sure.

01:08:42.000 Yeah, somewhere.

01:08:44.000 Not that we've found in this area, but even then, regardless of that, insurance companies won't allow it.

01:08:51.000 So if we want to buy a building that costs a million dollars, and we don't have a million dollars, because we want to run a business, we get a loan from the bank.

01:08:57.000 The bank says, OK, but we want the building insured.

01:08:58.000 Because if you don't have insurance and it burns down, we're out the money.

01:09:01.000 And I say, deal.

01:09:02.000 And the insurance company says, don't bring guns in.

01:09:04.000 You bring guns in, and then there's going to be a bunch of problems.

01:09:06.000 We've got to pay for it.

01:09:07.000 We don't want to pay for it.

01:09:08.000 So if you want insurance from us, you want the loan.

01:09:10.000 If I was a billionaire, I'd snap my fingers, buy the building in cash, and wouldn't have to worry about it.

01:09:10.000 These are the rules.

01:09:14.000 And then one day, someone, I don't know, farts next to a blow dryer or something, a fire starts, and then the building burns down, and now you have nothing.

01:09:23.000 So it's incredibly difficult to navigate a system of private entities that are all intertwined with each other.

01:09:29.000 That's why I think it is good that we come together and say, okay, We recognize insurance is something you need.

01:09:35.000 We recognize—you know, how about we do this?

01:09:38.000 We pass a law saying no private entity can deny you service because you're expressing your Second Amendment right.

01:09:45.000 I'd be—fantastic.

01:09:47.000 West Virginia.

01:09:48.000 Pass a law saying insurance companies, security companies, and any business cannot deny you service based on your allowing people to express their constitutional rights.

01:09:58.000 And then you're good.

01:09:59.000 But that's an act of government coming in and forcing business to insure companies that allow people to have guns.

01:10:05.000 And I think that you're only in a free society to the extent that you can do what you want on your property.

01:10:12.000 As long as you're not hurting someone else.

01:10:14.000 The problem with the Libertarian Party, honestly, at the end of the day, is most people don't actually care about freedom.

01:10:18.000 They care about their own being able to do the things they want to do, and they don't care about if you can do the things you want to do. 0.99

01:10:25.000 They don't give a crap. 0.96

01:10:26.000 In fact, if the things you want to do mess with their day... 0.97

01:10:30.000 Right?

01:10:31.000 It doesn't matter.

01:10:32.000 If it messes with their coffee, pass a law.

01:10:36.000 I just think at some point when the government steps in to do that, it starts a precedent by which many more arbitrary precedents will then be passed.

01:10:43.000 A little late to start precedents.

01:10:45.000 That's an argument of culture, not an argument of law.

01:10:49.000 In some cases, yes.

01:10:50.000 But in some cases, it's law.

01:10:51.000 Like, if the state starts to do that with private property, they've restricted private property in other cases, citing that precedent.

01:10:59.000 That's only an argument of culture, not an argument of law.

01:11:01.000 We have laws to say, like, you shouldn't force—you know, we've talked about this with gender-affirming care. 0.60

01:11:07.000 We call those child sex changes, by the way.

01:11:10.000 And the left thinks that—they have an inverted view. 0.97

01:11:14.000 Well, I mean, they're hypocrites who don't understand what they're talking about, because they say, my body, my choice, but then they're, you know, pro-vaccine mandate, but also pro-choice. 0.95

01:11:20.000 It makes no sense. 0.96

01:11:21.000 But if you look at the right, you ask someone on the right, should the government be able to mandate vaccines?

01:11:26.000 They say, no.

01:11:28.000 Okay, good.

01:11:29.000 Should the government be able to mandate child sex change?

01:11:31.000 They say, absolutely not.

01:11:33.000 If a parent tried to seek a sex change for their child, should the government intervene?

01:11:37.000 They say, yes, absolutely.

01:11:40.000 That is a function of law.

01:11:41.000 It doesn't mean that if someone tried to seek an alternative cancer therapy, the government should intervene and stop the parents.

01:11:47.000 When we say, somebody thinks it's medical care to give their kid drugs and hormones and surgery, we say, no, and the government should stop them from doing it.

01:11:56.000 But then you have someone who says, okay, a family wants to seek an alternative treatment for their kid's disease outside of big pharma.

01:12:04.000 Should the government intervene and stop them?

01:12:05.000 We say, no, of course not.

01:12:06.000 We should let them choose that.

01:12:07.000 So why is there a limit?

01:12:09.000 Why should we have the government intervene in the issue of child sex changes and not intervene when someone's making a medical choice outside of the confines of corporate medicine?

01:12:18.000 It's because we have a moral line where we recognize, well, parents may want to try experimental or alternate medicines, and they may have a reason to try that, but we also recognize that child sex changes are extremely detrimental. 0.99

01:12:29.000 We don't accept that.

01:12:30.000 The left, it's inverted.

01:12:31.000 The left says, no, the government should not intervene.

01:12:35.000 In fact, the left's version is, if the parents try to stop the kid from getting a sex change, the government should intervene and arrest the parents and take the kid away.

01:12:42.000 So, when it comes to issues of law, it's culture matters more.

01:12:46.000 And I was mentioning this earlier in a segment, Wade Stotts, who has this great segment about how the Constitution is dead, argues that when you begin to write down your laws is when things are getting bad.

01:12:56.000 You don't need to write things down if everyone's doing the right thing.

01:13:00.000 You write them down when people begin doing the bad thing, and you need to show them, stop doing this.

01:13:04.000 And so that's where we're getting to that point.

01:13:07.000 If we said, It should be illegal for an insurance company to deny you because you're customers or you express your constitutional rights.

01:13:17.000 I say, okay.

01:13:18.000 If then they said, aha, but now we have a precedent.

01:13:20.000 The government can make mandates on businesses.

01:13:21.000 Private insurance companies should now have to mandate people who love setting fires. 0.88

01:13:25.000 I say, yeah, no, that's ridiculous.

01:13:27.000 We have a moral line. 0.96

01:13:28.000 We don't accept that.

01:13:29.000 We accept that people have constitutional rights and should be allowed to express them.

01:13:32.000 People do not have a right to play with fire in a building.

01:13:34.000 So then you can't do that.

01:13:37.000 But if you have a weak culture, government will do whatever it wants, regardless of what your rules and laws are, and that's where we're currently at.

01:13:43.000 Breitbart was right when he said politics is downstream from culture.

01:13:46.000 Absolutely.

01:13:47.000 Let's jump to this segment.

01:13:49.000 We have this from Republican voters against Trump.

01:13:51.000 New billboards are live in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin featuring Republican voters against Trump.

01:13:56.000 I'm a former Trump voter.

01:13:57.000 I won't vote for a convicted felon.

01:14:00.000 Now, I highlighted this and said, this is all pre-planned.

01:14:03.000 You can't get billboards this fast.

01:14:05.000 Now, on Twitter, you don't get the full context in there, but a lot of people said, not true!

01:14:10.000 I can send a digital file and it instantly is uploaded to a digital billboard.

01:14:14.000 Let's break this down for you guys.

01:14:16.000 You have these billboards that are now live, and we're talking about five days after, not even a full week after Donald Trump, including a weekend, so we have like three working business days, to get four people, designed billboards, uploaded, ready to go, sold, etc.

01:14:35.000 It is literally, physically possible But it is extremely improbable.

01:14:42.000 That's my point.

01:14:43.000 When I said you can't get them done this fast, if the word came out that Trump was convicted...

01:14:49.000 And I told, instantly, I said to my graphic design team, we need billboard designs for former Trump voters who are saying they won't vote for convicted felons.

01:15:00.000 Start setting it up.

01:15:01.000 We'll find people.

01:15:02.000 You then have to find the people who have sworn this statement or have agreed to use their likeness.

01:15:08.000 They have to sign the agreements and the contracts.

01:15:11.000 Maybe don't use the contracts at all.

01:15:12.000 You say, okay, we're just going to do it.

01:15:13.000 We'll figure it out later.

01:15:14.000 Sure.

01:15:16.000 Then I have to contact my broker, figure out what billboards are available for sale, figure out the total price point, negotiate the price point, and then buy them.

01:15:28.000 Likely not happening in three business days.

01:15:30.000 I know because we've spent millions on billboards across the country over the past couple of years.

01:15:36.000 It doesn't happen.

01:15:38.000 Is it physically possible?

01:15:40.000 Here's what likely happened.

01:15:40.000 Yes.

01:15:42.000 Before the convictions even came out, this organization likely already had pre-purchased billboard space, likely already had people lined up with these statements, and already had everything pre-planned.

01:15:55.000 Then when the verdict dropped, they called the broker and said, turn the turn the billboards on.

01:15:59.000 All the, like, all the, um...

01:16:02.000 When they do polls, all they have to do is get someone's name that says that I won't vote, and then they can put whoever's picture, doesn't matter.

01:16:09.000 They have a name that matches a quote, doesn't matter if the person's the same or not, so they just take people that they polled and throw it out.

01:16:16.000 It's likely these people are who they say they are, and it's likely they've sworn these statements, but that means...

01:16:22.000 Look, if you want me to believe that within five days of — so, the day Trump's found guilty, they're running the phones and saying, get me people who will swear this statement.

01:16:32.000 You expect me to believe they found four people, designed the billboards, got it all set up in three working — in three business days?

01:16:37.000 Sorry.

01:16:37.000 I'm not going to believe it.

01:16:38.000 Well, and the PAC behind it, the Republican Accountability PAC, you know, already has a vendetta if you're looking at their website, which I just pulled up.

01:16:45.000 You know, they're saying we're Republicans and conservatives who hate what Donald Trump has done to the Republican Party.

01:16:51.000 Like, I bet all of these people posted photos and were willing to say, like, I'm a former Trump voter and I'm not voting for him.

01:16:57.000 And then they were like, why?

01:16:58.000 Can you say it's because you're a convicted felon?

01:17:00.000 Like, they probably checked a number of reasons why they weren't voting for Trump.

01:17:03.000 I'd imagine this campaign, the photos they got, was in the works a month before.

01:17:08.000 They knew the possibility existed.

01:17:10.000 They pre-planned the whole thing.

01:17:11.000 There's no way this was organic, and I bet you, Tim, that they had a completely different set for if he wasn't convicted for their messaging.

01:17:18.000 Probably with the same people though.

01:17:19.000 They're like, we were former Trump voters and we're not voting for him.

01:17:23.000 Insert whatever reason you want.

01:17:24.000 Why?

01:17:24.000 They would have written, the jury was corrupted and terrified of retaliation.

01:17:29.000 And we won't, we won't.

01:17:30.000 They already, remember when they claimed that Trump was intimidating the jurors?

01:17:33.000 They would say Trump was only acquitted because he intimidated the jurors.

01:17:36.000 I will not vote for a man who would cheat a criminal trial, you know, or whatever.

01:17:41.000 They made it up.

01:17:41.000 That's it.

01:17:43.000 And again, it's the Republican accountability pact, meaning that these are other Republicans.

01:17:49.000 It's interesting that this is, like, how weird this segment of the party, and I don't think it's the majority, is.

01:17:55.000 They are, like, they're so fearful of Donald Trump that even in a moment where you could say, hey, this trial was really bad, like, he deserves at the very minimum an appeal.

01:18:04.000 They're like, nope, don't vote for that guy.

01:18:06.000 You know what I love, though?

01:18:08.000 The Democrat messaging on, like, prison reform and stuff.

01:18:11.000 is just totally blowing up right now.

01:18:13.000 Because there's a bunch of woke people who are really pissed off about this and they're talking smack.

01:18:13.000 I know!

01:18:17.000 They're being like, we live in a country that has 25% of the world's prison population and we're actively working for prison abolition and now you're running billboards attacking a man for being a felon when we've literally been fighting for the rights of convicted felons for the past, you know, several decades or whatever.

01:18:35.000 I have to imagine, if the Democrats' position is that we should grant felons rights and all of these things, then attacking someone for being a felon seems kind of hypocritical.

01:18:45.000 This is one I think is happening a lot for Democrats or people who identify under the umbrella of Democrats right now.

01:18:51.000 You're completely right, this idea that they have been like, our criminal justice system is wrong, and too many people are convicted, and now they have to be like, I think I'm on Donald Trump's side.

01:18:59.000 Must be a headache for them.

01:19:00.000 It's hard for them to reconcile.

01:19:01.000 Or again, that video from Was it Philadelphia Pride?

01:19:04.000 We have the Pride marchers clashing with the- With the FBI?

01:19:07.000 No, not the FBI.

01:19:08.000 With the, like, no pride until we're done with this genocide, like, Palestine rally. 0.93

01:19:14.000 I mean, it is interesting how many things in this election the Democrats are having to reconcile on.

01:19:19.000 I mean, we're talking about the civil libertarians.

01:19:21.000 There are ideological issues that, because the party spans sort of a wide bridge, they have to reconcile on.

01:19:27.000 But the Democrats are having to look at themselves and say, We were against the way the criminal justice system operates, but now they're telling us that actually, in this case, it was all right.

01:19:36.000 Like, which is it?

01:19:38.000 It's either conform to the cognitive dissonance or wake up.

01:19:41.000 I mean, I want to hope that there are a or there is a significant portion of the Democrats

01:19:48.000 that Democrat voter base that is that is looking around and saying, wow, all of these things

01:19:55.000 that we were told by our party are just not panning out.

01:20:00.000 I don't know that it that it that there is that that that segment or how big that segment

01:20:05.000 is.

01:20:06.000 I'm relying on independents and people that are not blinded by ideology.

01:20:11.000 I hope that there's enough that see that the way that the left, even the way that they

01:20:18.000 approach, you know, campaigning and stuff.

01:20:21.000 It's not about policy.

01:20:22.000 It's all about attack, attack, attack.

01:20:24.000 It's all about, you know, they're the bigots.

01:20:26.000 They're the bad guys. 1.00

01:20:26.000 They're going to kill people. 1.00

01:20:27.000 They're going to do blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.96

01:20:29.000 There's no content.

01:20:31.000 And I hope that the American people can see, hey, look, when we actually discuss policy, we can have policies that do help, you know, to some degree.

01:20:40.000 I know you disagree, but that's fine.

01:20:43.000 But the average person is going to consider, look, I want to see the government doing things that are good for the American people.

01:20:52.000 And we don't see it.

01:20:53.000 And I'm hoping that that's going to be the result in November.

01:20:57.000 But there's no guarantee.

01:20:58.000 Yeah, we talk about policy.

01:21:00.000 First Amendment.

01:21:01.000 an election year. I feel like at that point it's just get on sides and get

01:21:05.000 behind these personalities. But I do think to a certain extent you know the

01:21:08.000 concept of a single issue voter becomes really relevant to me here. It's like

01:21:12.000 it's easy for me to say on certain issues like I would never vote for

01:21:14.000 someone who's on the opposite side of this issue. First Amendment, like I mean

01:21:17.000 that's simple. Right and I think there probably are people on the left side of

01:21:22.000 the political spectrum that are saying like this is my biggest issue.

01:21:26.000 Yeah, they're like, she's a racist or no. 0.95

01:21:27.000 Or I'm thinking the opposite, like, I believe that the criminal justice system is corrupt and targets too many people and they're having to confront these trials and say, like, if I really believe that.

01:21:36.000 It's not all of them, but I think there are some people who will say, like, I don't know if I can align myself here.

01:21:41.000 Just like, like, that should be the purpose of elections, right?

01:21:45.000 Look your party in the face and say, are you actually supporting things that I supported or do I need to move somewhere else?

01:21:50.000 Instead, I think we get a lot of like, don't talk about the policies so that we can be like, you should wear our letter and wear our jersey and come to our rallies.

01:21:58.000 And that's that's the opposite of what the voters should be really discerning right now.

01:22:02.000 This election is definitely, you know, a referendum by either side on both.

01:22:07.000 Right.

01:22:07.000 So like everyone hates.

01:22:09.000 Everyone that is not on the conservative side hates Joe Biden and vice versa.

01:22:14.000 And there's such a vanishingly small amount of people that could be persuaded.

01:22:20.000 I think this portion of Republicans is a subsection that's getting smaller and smaller.

01:22:25.000 You see it more and more as it goes on.

01:22:27.000 The Mar-a-Lago raid, I think that kicked a lot of it off.

01:22:31.000 A lot of the contentious debates and the The primary.

01:22:34.000 I mean, when Nikki Haley is coming out and actually trying to get in Trump's good graces, it could mean she's just angling for a cabinet position.

01:22:41.000 But that tells me something when even Nikki Haley is not, like, doubling down on some of this stuff.

01:22:47.000 I just don't like these political stunts anymore, right?

01:22:47.000 It's interesting.

01:22:54.000 I wish you could ask all of these people, I'm a former Trump voter and I'm not voting for Convict Phelan.

01:22:59.000 Why?

01:23:01.000 Again, I think this pack was already aware of who you were.

01:23:05.000 What was the actual thing that turned you away from Trump?

01:23:07.000 Because that could be a productive conversation.

01:23:10.000 But instead, it's like, actually, we've all decided for this, you know, we all coincidentally decided this was the one thing just in time to have our faces on a billboard.

01:23:17.000 Like, I don't think so.

01:23:19.000 Like, these people are probably neocons.

01:23:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:23:21.000 Yeah.

01:23:22.000 It's the Lincoln Project people.

01:23:24.000 You know what I mean?

01:23:25.000 They're all direct.

01:23:27.000 They're all related by blood to Bill Kristol.

01:23:30.000 That's right.

01:23:31.000 And one is named Kevin Wanker.

01:23:32.000 I'm just gonna put that out there.

01:23:34.000 I feel bad for Kevin Wanker. 0.97

01:23:37.000 He spent his whole life being a wanker. 0.98

01:23:39.000 Poor guy. 0.98

01:23:39.000 Well, it's a respected family, maybe, in the town that he's from. 0.98

01:23:43.000 There's a family that has the last name Hitler?

01:23:46.000 And they refused to change their name, and they issued cards called, like, greetings from the Hitlers.

01:23:51.000 And they were just like, we've had this name forever, and we're not going to let people take our name from us.

01:23:55.000 It's fascinating!

01:23:58.000 But a lot of people who had that last name changed their names.

01:24:00.000 He had people who were named Adolf, right?

01:24:02.000 They changed their names.

01:24:03.000 And his surviving family members almost all did that, and I think agreed not to have children.

01:24:08.000 I think of his extended family.

01:24:10.000 I'm pretty sure that's true.

01:24:11.000 Let's grab one last second with us from the post-millennial.

01:24:14.000 Black Panther's founding member backs Trump for president.

01:24:17.000 Hilliard said the former president has always been a friend of African Americans.

01:24:21.000 On Monday, writer and TikToker Carol Mitchell sat down with Black Panther's founding member David Hilliard to discuss his support for Trump.

01:24:28.000 The 82-year-old former revolutionary said he wanted to see the former president back in charge, calling him an ally of the black population.

01:24:34.000 So, uh, okay.

01:24:36.000 Here you go.

01:24:39.000 Welcome to The Random Site.

01:24:40.000 I want you to meet someone who knew Donald Trump, and he's going to tell you about Donald Trump in his own words.

01:24:48.000 My name is David Hilliard, founding member of the Black Panther Party.

01:24:54.000 I knew Trump when Trump was a college student in New York.

01:24:57.000 Wow.

01:24:58.000 And he supported the Black Panther Party.

01:25:00.000 What kind of person do you think Donald Trump is?

01:25:06.000 Trump is a person who's a decent man, and he supported the Black Panther Party.

01:25:14.000 Someone who gave us money.

01:25:15.000 He is the first black president.

01:25:18.000 Bill Clinton is not.

01:25:19.000 He gave us money.

01:25:21.000 When you say a decent guy, uh oh.

01:25:23.000 That's against the nation.

01:25:25.000 Hold on.

01:25:27.000 I was one of two black Trump?

01:25:29.000 Yes.

01:25:30.000 Trump's a friend of African-Americans.

01:25:33.000 And I knew Trump from the 1960s in New York, where he comes from.

01:25:38.000 And he's a friend to African-Americans.

01:25:41.000 Oh, and now when you say a friend to African-American, what do you mean by friend to African-American?

01:25:47.000 I mean, he's not a racist. 0.99

01:25:49.000 He's not a racist, fascist white man. 0.97

01:25:50.000 He supported black people. 0.99

01:25:55.000 Every brownstone in a place called Harlem, New York. 0.99

01:25:59.000 Oh, wow.

01:26:00.000 Okay.

01:26:01.000 Now, do you remember the time that Trump supported Jesse Jackson?

01:26:05.000 No, but I remember when he supported the Black Panther Party.

01:26:11.000 And how did he support the Black Panther Party?

01:26:14.000 With his money.

01:26:16.000 For real.

01:26:17.000 My goodness.

01:26:18.000 They gave us money.

01:26:19.000 So in your opinion, Trump has always been, now that he has these 34 counts of being a felon, Trump has always been part of the black community or familiarized at least with the black community.

01:26:32.000 That's exactly right.

01:26:34.000 He was a friend to people of African American descent and he owned all of Harlem.

01:26:42.000 Wow.

01:26:43.000 That's amazing.

01:26:44.000 So in your opinion, sir, your valued opinion, why do you think they put all these charges on Trump and they're afraid of him to be president?

01:26:55.000 Cause Trump like Africans in America. 1.00

01:26:57.000 He likes black folks.

01:26:59.000 That's one.

01:27:01.000 I think that Trump is, uh, qualified in a very decent, uh, approach to having somebody representing America.

01:27:10.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:27:12.000 And I think Trump would be able to get us off this government thing and get us to making our own money, you know, because he knows how to make money.

01:27:23.000 He knows how to lose money.

01:27:25.000 And so he would be the perfect person to help us get our own again, right?

01:27:31.000 And Trump's a friend of African-Americans. 0.93

01:27:34.000 He's always been a friend of black people.

01:27:36.000 That's how I know Trump.

01:27:37.000 Okay.

01:27:38.000 Well, thank you so much.

01:27:39.000 And what is your name, sir?

01:27:40.000 My name is David Hilliard, founding member of the Black Panther Party.

01:27:44.000 Oh my God.

01:27:45.000 Well, that's amazing.

01:27:47.000 You're a well-known figure in the Bay Area.

01:27:49.000 So we thank you for taking a moment out of your- Yo, that is wild.

01:27:54.000 Trump gave the Panthers money back in the day.

01:27:57.000 That's going to get fact-checked.

01:27:59.000 Let's see what happens with this one.

01:27:59.000 Yeah, I hope it does.

01:28:00.000 I need a little more context.

01:28:01.000 I mean, how do you fact-check?

01:28:02.000 Is this David Hilliard saying he did it?

01:28:05.000 What more fact-checking is there?

01:28:06.000 Like, well, prove it.

01:28:07.000 It's like, dude, he said he did.

01:28:08.000 And Fannie Willis' dad, who was also a Black Panther, is going to come out and be like, yeah, it never happened.

01:28:12.000 The fact-check is, is this really David Hilliard?

01:28:12.000 Trump's the enemy.

01:28:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:16.000 It's like it's some TikTok video.

01:28:17.000 But assuming that's true, I imagine this is going to earn Trump some points.

01:28:22.000 I imagine.

01:28:23.000 I don't know how you verify it, but it'd be funny.

01:28:28.000 It'd be so funny.

01:28:30.000 If there's FEC paper trails, I'd thank for stuff like this.

01:28:35.000 I think it'd be funny if the Black Panther Party came out and was divided over this issue.

01:28:38.000 We have this founding member who says Trump's always been a friend, and then the other members are like, no, we hate that guy.

01:28:43.000 This could split them.

01:28:45.000 Fascinating.

01:28:46.000 Wouldn't it be funnier if they were all just like, yo, we're on the same page?

01:28:50.000 I'm going to stand by.

01:28:51.000 Fannie Wilson's dad, who testified during the hearing over her conflict of interest case, was a Black Panther.

01:28:59.000 I'm pretty sure he's not going to be like, you know what, if David Hilliard said it, I support Trump.

01:29:04.000 I could be wrong, but I just don't think so.

01:29:06.000 This could be their Chase Oliver.

01:29:08.000 This could be.

01:29:08.000 Oh my gosh.

01:29:10.000 I think Trump supporters are going to be cheering for this.

01:29:10.000 I don't know.

01:29:13.000 Yeah.

01:29:15.000 I mean, look, Trump supporters, Trump supporters like any, just like Trump, they like anyone that supports Trump, which is, I mean, to be honest with you, considering the situation really boils down to, you know, left twix or right twix, if you're going to pick one, just be like, hey, yeah, okay.

01:29:34.000 Well, it's just, like, he's so calm about it, right?

01:29:37.000 He's like, no, he's always been a friend, liked that guy, knew him as a college student.

01:29:40.000 Like, again, I would like maybe some fact-checking, but it is also interesting that this is something he feels comfortable saying publicly.

01:29:47.000 I don't know if we need any fact-checking.

01:29:49.000 If this guy is saying he knew Trump and Trump was nice to him and they're friends and he supports him, that's all that matters.

01:29:54.000 Well, I'm not saying discount it.

01:29:55.000 I'm just saying, like... I just don't know who this guy is.

01:29:57.000 It should be able to be verifiable.

01:29:59.000 I'm not saying discount his take.

01:30:02.000 It's fascinating either way, though, because again, there is an attitude, I think, especially among progressives, that minorities are in the bag, they're voters, they'll vote for us no matter what, and I just don't think that's true anymore, and I don't think it ever should have been true.

01:30:20.000 You know, Black Panther is kind of an extremist organization.

01:30:24.000 So it's interesting that one of their, you know, founding members, if that's who he is, you know, would come out and say like, no, I've always liked him.

01:30:32.000 Because I think, again, it goes against the narrative that actually, you know, what did Joe Biden say?

01:30:37.000 You're not black if you're not voting for me. 0.96

01:30:40.000 What a crazy time. 0.98

01:30:42.000 It's wild to me that there's just tons of people in the black community that just keep voting Democrat no matter what. 0.99

01:30:49.000 But it's mostly older black folk.

01:30:51.000 So the polls are showing that under 49 years old, it's like 30 plus percent Trump.

01:30:57.000 You look at a lot of these artists, you look at a lot of these Man in the Street videos, younger people in the black community are straight up just like Trump. 1.00

01:31:04.000 That is hilarious and I love it.

01:31:06.000 Watching the young rappers that are all pro-Trump, that is some funny stuff, man, and I'm here for it.

01:31:13.000 There's a bunch of, uh, aren't there like a bunch of prominent rappers that have backed Trump now?

01:31:17.000 There's like, I don't know their names, but I've seen a bunch of different people.

01:31:21.000 I don't know how famous they are, if they're like actual big time or if they're like, uh.

01:31:26.000 We should just make up a rumor that like, niche.

01:31:28.000 Someone name a rapper and we'll just say he supports Trump.

01:31:30.000 Just, there you go.

01:31:32.000 Lil Wayne.

01:31:33.000 Doesn't he actually support Trump?

01:31:34.000 Look, I don't know a lot of rappers, so I can't say for sure, but maybe.

01:31:39.000 I'm looking that up.

01:31:41.000 I thought that he actually did, didn't he?

01:31:44.000 Yeah.

01:31:45.000 Yeah, Lil Wayne supports Trump. 0.91

01:31:46.000 This is from 2020.

01:31:47.000 Lil Wayne endorsed Donald Trump.

01:31:52.000 So maybe you just knew that subconsciously.

01:31:54.000 The only rappers I know are the ones who support Trump.

01:31:54.000 Maybe.

01:31:58.000 Lil Wayne skateboards too, I'm pretty sure.

01:31:59.000 Lil Wayne's pretty cool, if I understand correctly.

01:32:01.000 Yeah, he also talked about his life.

01:32:03.000 Oh, he got pardoned by Trump.

01:32:06.000 See, there you go!

01:32:07.000 Maybe that's why I know about this.

01:32:09.000 What about Tyga?

01:32:10.000 I have no idea who that is.

01:32:11.000 He dated Kylie Jenner.

01:32:13.000 You guys think that Trump is going to actually see significant improvements in the vote count among black voters?

01:32:18.000 Because they always say that he will, but no one ever does.

01:32:19.000 I don't know.

01:32:23.000 I don't know.

01:32:25.000 I have a hard time, I still have a hard time trusting the voter rolls and how things are going to go.

01:32:33.000 Even though I know it's broken up, there's like a bunch of different, you know, every state does their own voter roll and stuff, but it's still, it's frustrating.

01:32:43.000 I haven't studied these demographics whatsoever.

01:32:46.000 I mean, I feel confident he's going to win.

01:32:48.000 How do you think he'll do among middle-aged white libertarian men?

01:32:55.000 I think he'll do way better than last cycle.

01:32:58.000 The Ross Ulbricht thing is enticing, especially.

01:33:01.000 It's kind of wild to me that I can talk to Libertarians and be like, Donald Trump didn't start any wars, and they go, yeah, well, you know, and Ross Ulbricht, oh, I'll vote for him now.

01:33:09.000 So, you know, this really bothers me, and don't get this twisted.

01:33:13.000 It's not like I don't think it would be good to get Ross freed.

01:33:17.000 But Ross gets a cheer, right?

01:33:22.000 And when he said, when Donald Trump says, I'll get rid of the Department of Education, it's not, it's like, it's kind of like secondary.

01:33:28.000 What's going to have more effect on America?

01:33:31.000 Bro, you're talking about a political party that nominated Chase Allen.

01:33:33.000 I think it's more skepticism toward that because that's a Republican talking point a lot.

01:33:38.000 And it's never, I mean, I think Ted Cruz tweets that routinely.

01:33:42.000 Same with, and the IRS, it just never happened.

01:33:45.000 What if, what if, what if Trump went up there and said, if you vote for me, I'm going to send strongly worded letters to every department.

01:33:51.000 That's it.

01:33:52.000 I mean, he'd probably be, uh... I'd be like, well, if you send two, then you get my vote.

01:33:57.000 Because one's not enough, apparently.

01:33:58.000 We've tried one.

01:33:59.000 It's time for two.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, you know, I was talking about this earlier, I'm like... How come no one does anything?

01:34:07.000 Where's a single Republican in any one of these states to go after any one of these people for the crimes they have committed?

01:34:14.000 The biggest thing that they've done, they've gone after their own people, they've gone after the Speaker, got the Speaker change, and they managed to get Mayorkas in front of them.

01:34:29.000 And they managed to get Fauci in front of them, too.

01:34:33.000 It was fun when they yelled at Fauci and then he denied everything and then that was over.

01:34:36.000 And everyone forgot.

01:34:38.000 Alright, we're gonna go to Super Chats!

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01:35:04.000 Clint Torres is back!

01:35:05.000 He says, howdy people!

01:35:07.000 Howdy Clint.

01:35:09.000 Tim Jake, 78.

01:35:10.000 SCOTUS ruled 9-0 in favor of the NRA that New York regulators violated the First Amendment by coercing regulated businesses to end relationships with the NRA.

01:35:20.000 The Sotomayor written opinion is worth your time to read.

01:35:23.000 Interesting.

01:35:25.000 And she is a leftist.

01:35:28.000 TokenBlackEye says, howdy people.

01:35:29.000 Tim, I nominate you for governor of West Virginia.

01:35:32.000 Get this ish on track for us.

01:35:34.000 Hannah Clare, girl, your hair was on fire yesterday.

01:35:37.000 Thanks, man.

01:35:38.000 That was just its natural state.

01:35:39.000 I would never want to be a governor or a politician, but I'm getting more and more angry.

01:35:43.000 If I was the governor of West Virginia, I would order a raid on the CBP facility at 340.

01:35:49.000 I would get all state law enforcement apparatus.

01:35:54.000 We would get warrants.

01:35:55.000 We'd get judges to sign off.

01:35:57.000 And we would start ripping through every single CBP computer and communications.

01:36:02.000 We'd have SWAT, Sheriff, everybody storming that massive CBP facility over on 340.

01:36:09.000 Because these people are trafficking children.

01:36:12.000 And I want to know who they are.

01:36:14.000 And if you're going to operate in my state, that's how we do it.

01:36:16.000 But I'm not the governor.

01:36:17.000 No, the governor here just wants to play ball with the feds because they don't want to get, you know, just too much work.

01:36:23.000 Is that in Loudoun?

01:36:25.000 The CBP facility?

01:36:26.000 Yeah.

01:36:26.000 Loudoun is not in West Virginia.

01:36:28.000 Okay.

01:36:30.000 Loudoun County is in Virginia.

01:36:33.000 The Customs and Border Protection facility in West Virginia is in Jefferson County, just off 340.

01:36:39.000 Not too far away, about 20 minutes.

01:36:41.000 And I want to know what they're doing.

01:36:44.000 So it must be legally.

01:36:46.000 All gotta be done legally.

01:36:47.000 But we go to a judge, we say, here's our preliminary investigation.

01:36:51.000 We've got media reports corroborating a preponderance of evidence that they're trafficking children.

01:36:55.000 We've got statements from the head of the CBP Union admitting they are trafficking children.

01:36:59.000 If they want to operate in this state, then we should go in there and seize computers and hard drives and phones and start going through emails and communications pertaining to all of this.

01:37:08.000 And we could start light, we could force them to hand over the communications and access, and if they don't, then we send in the sheriff and the SWAT police.

01:37:15.000 Alright.

01:37:17.000 Charlie says, Tim, listening since COVID, financial strain from being laid off has put my family in a bind.

01:37:23.000 We're behind on the car and utilities and $750 would be a godsend in setting us back on track.

01:37:30.000 Venmo CK Bevs.

01:37:31.000 Good luck, sir.

01:37:32.000 Good luck to you.

01:37:33.000 Eric Blackwood says, I am a pagan and follow the philosophy of Stoicism.

01:37:37.000 I wanted to thank you for staying true to yourself and talking about Stoicism and its virtues without converting to the Christianity like many others on our political side.

01:37:45.000 Yeah, this is funny.

01:37:48.000 It's a weird reality where conservatives call me an atheist, which I'm not.

01:37:54.000 I would say I was an atheist from like 14 years old to 18 years old maybe.

01:37:57.000 And I don't even know if atheist is the right word.

01:38:00.000 Agnostic probably better. 1.00

01:38:01.000 I didn't know what was going on.

01:38:03.000 But I've not been an atheist for a very long time in any stretch of the imagination, but I'm certainly not a Christian, and will never just... There's no reality where I become a Christian.

01:38:13.000 I grew up Catholic, went through that all, and I believe in God, but I don't believe in Christianity.

01:38:18.000 And, you know, so... Stoicism is also great, but shout out Eric Blackwood.

01:38:23.000 For anybody who is a Christian, I got no beef.

01:38:25.000 I think Christianity is largely important to this nation.

01:38:28.000 And I saw this really interesting graph that showed countries' motivations, and there are three.

01:38:34.000 Guilt, shame, and fear.

01:38:35.000 Very few countries operate on fear, fear of self-harm, or fear of harm from government.

01:38:41.000 It's mostly shame or guilt.

01:38:43.000 Western nations are guilt-based, and Eastern nations are shame-based.

01:38:46.000 And that makes sense when you look at, like, Japan versus the United States.

01:38:50.000 But it is interesting.

01:38:51.000 I think guilt is so much better a motivator than shame is.

01:38:55.000 It's funny to think of Japan as like shame-based and then think of like all the octopus stuff they do and stuff like that. 0.96

01:39:01.000 But they are shame-based.

01:39:02.000 That's why they have seppuku.

01:39:03.000 It's weird.

01:39:04.000 Yes, it's true.

01:39:05.000 Whereas for us, we're like, did I do something wrong?

01:39:05.000 It's just weird.

01:39:08.000 Like, did I wrong someone in some way?

01:39:10.000 You feel guilty for doing things that are wrong.

01:39:12.000 I feel like there's a better motivator.

01:39:14.000 I've lived there for a time, Japan, for a small time, and there, like, the shame is, like, it doesn't extend just to you, it extends to your whole family and lineage, right?

01:39:23.000 Yeah.

01:39:25.000 I love Japan, it's so cool.

01:39:25.000 Crazy.

01:39:26.000 I agree. 0.75

01:39:27.000 Yeah, Japan's based.

01:39:28.000 Awesome.

01:39:29.000 Let's go.

01:39:31.000 TokenBlackGuy says, Ian is going to come back with graphene grafted to his skeletal structure.

01:39:35.000 Is that what he's doing in Florida?

01:39:37.000 Well, he's not in Florida, he's in Canada.

01:39:39.000 Oh! 0.60

01:39:39.000 He was sent to a Canadian military research facility where they've infused graphene into his skeleton against his will. 0.60

01:39:45.000 It's the 10th attempt they made, actually.

01:39:48.000 The 10th?

01:39:49.000 Yeah, they've tried it 10 times, 9 times before Ian.

01:39:52.000 Ian was the 10th experiment to fuse graphene to a skeleton, and it's only because Ian has a healing factor that allows him to regenerate his cells so rapidly that they were able to succeed in grafting the graphene to his skeleton.

01:40:05.000 He's become Hippie X, right? 0.91

01:40:06.000 And they call him Hippie X. That's right.

01:40:09.000 Nice.

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:11.000 And the strange thing now is that he has graphene claws that come out of his hands.

01:40:17.000 Only nerds know the reference.

01:40:18.000 Oh, I'm so glad he's evolving.

01:40:20.000 Nerd is science, geeks are culture.

01:40:23.000 Oh, that's the difference.

01:40:24.000 Yeah, nerds are people who know math and geeks are people who are obsessed with a cultural thing.

01:40:30.000 Yeah.

01:40:30.000 Okay.

01:40:31.000 Yeah, so if you're into comic books, you're a geek.

01:40:34.000 It's adamantite.

01:40:35.000 Adamantium.

01:40:36.000 Adamantium.

01:40:37.000 So you know which one I am right now.

01:40:38.000 It's graphene.

01:40:39.000 No, we're talking about graphene.

01:40:40.000 Okay.

01:40:40.000 Yeah.

01:40:42.000 Let's go.

01:40:43.000 We'll read some more superchats.

01:40:44.000 We're gonna have a really fun members-only show today.

01:40:47.000 I think we are.

01:40:49.000 Because it's a holiday.

01:40:50.000 But we're not gonna talk about which holiday, because it's not family-friendly.

01:40:54.000 Or are YouTube friendly, I guess.

01:40:56.000 But I'm the hippie ex.

01:40:57.000 Yeah, so go to TimCast.com, click join us because that members call-in show is going to be fun.

01:41:04.000 Today's a holiday and you want to know which one?

01:41:04.000 It's going to be very, very fun.

01:41:07.000 You got to be a member and watch the show.

01:41:10.000 All right, let's go.

01:41:12.000 Stonedamason says, $50 super chat was loomered.

01:41:15.000 Please read.

01:41:15.000 I'm a based musician.

01:41:17.000 New song, Exodus, Between Us is on SoundCloud.

01:41:20.000 Wrote about it, wrote, wrote it about COVID-19 and finding Jesus.

01:41:24.000 Uh, Serge, did you know that our cables are COVID cables?

01:41:24.000 Thanks.

01:41:28.000 If you look at the cables and the cameras, they'll say COVID on them.

01:41:32.000 I think it means like co-video or something, but I was like looking at the camera, it has COVID and I was like, well, why do these cables say COVID on them?

01:41:40.000 Whatever.

01:41:42.000 What have we here?

01:41:44.000 Wrath of Paul says, I saw a CNN video of an illegal immigrant saying he would vote Trump if he could.

01:41:48.000 It would be hilarious if the illegal immigrants get amnesty and voting rights but then end up voting for Trump. 0.92

01:41:54.000 It's not worth the gamble for me.

01:41:55.000 I'll just have American citizens vote.

01:41:57.000 No, but what if they all vote for Trump and then Trump is like, you know, because you voted for me, we're deporting the communists!

01:42:03.000 The illegal immigrants are now legal and the communists, you gotta go. 0.91

01:42:07.000 Would you accept that?

01:42:08.000 No.

01:42:10.000 You'd let the communists stay?

01:42:12.000 I just think we should deport people who came here illegally and who didn't abide by the system, and I don't think we should be distracted by the fact that they are saying, oh, well, actually, I like Trump, so please let me stay. 0.95

01:42:23.000 No.

01:42:23.000 Do you know communism?

01:42:25.000 If you're a communist, you're not protected by the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

01:42:27.000 This is why I say law doesn't matter.

01:42:29.000 It's in the verbiage, right?

01:42:31.000 It literally says that communists are excluded from protections.

01:42:36.000 Wild.

01:42:37.000 Yeah, shout out to Josie, the right-handed libertarian. 1.00

01:42:39.000 She did a big thing on it.

01:42:40.000 And it was like, if you identify as a communist or a part of a communist organization, you are not protected under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

01:42:46.000 That's crazy.

01:42:47.000 I think part of the reason is because they were explicitly anti-American and illiberal.

01:42:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:55.000 Man, what?

01:42:56.000 Those were the days, I guess.

01:42:57.000 I mean, people understood the philosophies behind These movements and these ideas, I think.

01:43:03.000 Yep.

01:43:04.000 Polly Puree says, Ian, come back.

01:43:06.000 I think Ian's back next week.

01:43:09.000 I think.

01:43:09.000 They're just nodding at me.

01:43:12.000 Ian's gallivanting about Miami with loose women and musical instruments.

01:43:18.000 I actually don't know if he's gallivanting with loose women. 0.88

01:43:20.000 It just sounded it sounded funny to say so.

01:43:22.000 I don't know if there's like some woman hanging out with Ian and she's like disrespected now she's angry. 1.00

01:43:26.000 Gallivanting's fun.

01:43:28.000 Gallivanting?

01:43:29.000 I like gallivanting.

01:43:29.000 Do you think Ian went to the beach?

01:43:31.000 I'm sure he's been to the beach.

01:43:32.000 I'm sure.

01:43:35.000 What do we have here?

01:43:36.000 Tony says Tim or whoever check out the song puppet on the throne by Phoenix Knight.

01:43:40.000 You won't regret it.

01:43:42.000 Well, okay.

01:43:45.000 Sean Stewart says, an evil man will burn his nation to the ground just to rule over the ashes.

01:43:52.000 Uh-huh.

01:43:54.000 That's what we're getting.

01:43:56.000 Let's go.

01:43:57.000 What do we have here?

01:43:58.000 Grim Reaper says, look up MCPS.

01:44:00.000 It's an active 501c3 acting as a police force enforcing Sharia law in New York City.

01:44:06.000 PS501C3 can't become law enforcement and they're impersonating NYPD. 0.90

01:44:10.000 Yeah, I remember seeing these stories.

01:44:11.000 You remember these?

01:44:12.000 They have badges and they claim to be just like community enforcement for their own neighborhoods.

01:44:18.000 And they agree to adhere to it and they have like, it's like Muslim police. 0.99

01:44:21.000 Have you seen that?

01:44:23.000 What's your take on this?

01:44:25.000 I don't know what this is even a reference to.

01:44:27.000 So there are Islamists in New York that made badges and formed an organization where they go around policing people based on their religious values. 0.71

01:44:35.000 So it's like religious police. 0.58

01:44:38.000 Virtue police.

01:44:39.000 But it's fine, though, right?

01:44:39.000 Because they're private.

01:44:40.000 No, if they violate people's rights.

01:44:42.000 I don't believe in the privatization of the Holocaust, for instance.

01:44:45.000 That's kind of a strawman argument.

01:44:47.000 I don't believe in hurting anyone.

01:44:49.000 The state is just the biggest purveyor of hurt in the world.

01:44:54.000 All right.

01:44:56.000 I don't know.

01:44:56.000 I don't know if I agree with that, actually.

01:44:59.000 I don't know if I see a distinction between corporations and state.

01:45:02.000 That's the thing, you know what I mean?

01:45:03.000 You don't see a distinction?

01:45:05.000 Yeah, like we were talking about- They have their tentacles intertwined all the time, right?

01:45:09.000 The state and corporation.

01:45:10.000 Yeah, because I forgot who we were talking to.

01:45:11.000 I think it was Rectenwald or somebody.

01:45:13.000 And I mentioned the East India Trading Company was a non-governmental entity, but it was oppressive.

01:45:18.000 It had slaves.

01:45:19.000 And then the point was made, but they worked in collusion with the British government.

01:45:22.000 Correct.

01:45:23.000 And I'm like, well, then it's all just basically the coalescing of power.

01:45:26.000 Yeah.

01:45:26.000 So like when you have the FDA being run by the guy who previously ran a major pharmaceutical company, it's all one big power entity.

01:45:33.000 It doesn't matter if it's a state or a corporation.

01:45:35.000 A lot of times the same people that are lobbying for industry, a lot of times they're responsible for writing policy.

01:45:47.000 When did you become a libertarian?

01:45:49.000 Sorry, Phil. 0.99

01:45:50.000 2004, and I have the dumbest story for it.

01:45:52.000 It's not the same story anyone else fell into libertarianism for, but I randomly, during a college research project, stumbled upon the works of Murray Rothbard when doing an economic study.

01:46:03.000 It was the history of money and banking in the U.S.

01:46:05.000 From there, I went down a rabbit hole, discovered Ron Paul, Baden Erick, some others.

01:46:08.000 It's not a fun story.

01:46:10.000 Rothbard snuck up behind him.

01:46:12.000 Usually Rothbard is like the red pill at the end.

01:46:13.000 And then put his hands on his head and did a psychic attack and warped his mind.

01:46:18.000 And then he became a libertarian.

01:46:19.000 Oh, wow.

01:46:20.000 That's crazy.

01:46:21.000 Yeah, that was the lie.

01:46:22.000 That was the actual story.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, that's the real story.

01:46:24.000 It's much cooler when you tell people it was that, you know.

01:46:26.000 Exactly.

01:46:27.000 Rothbard's lurking around converting young college students into libertarians.

01:46:31.000 Through psychic means?

01:46:32.000 That's interesting.

01:46:32.000 Yeah.

01:46:33.000 Meaning.

01:46:34.000 Whatever works.

01:46:36.000 All right.

01:46:38.000 Nur Alahi just posted a super chat saying, the only way Ian is getting Atom Antium is if he is goody two-shoes, don't drink, don't smoke, or what did he do?

01:46:46.000 Subtle innuendos follow, there must be something inside.

01:46:49.000 I don't understand.

01:46:51.000 It's graphene, not Atom Antium.

01:46:53.000 It's not atom, it's adamant.

01:46:55.000 Like diamond, right?

01:46:56.000 Adamant?

01:46:57.000 Atom Antium?

01:46:58.000 It's my fault for making an X-Men reference.

01:47:00.000 It's all my fault, so.

01:47:02.000 I think those were lyrics to a song.

01:47:04.000 Don't drink, don't smoke.

01:47:05.000 What do you do?

01:47:06.000 Don't drink, don't smoke.

01:47:07.000 I think so.

01:47:08.000 No, I think someone chatted making a reference to Ian as Weapon X. Getting graphene infused into his skeleton.

01:47:14.000 And then we just rolled with the Weapon X reference.

01:47:17.000 You kids and your culture and your music.

01:47:19.000 Kids!

01:47:20.000 The Weapon X story is from like the 60s or something, isn't it?

01:47:23.000 I think.

01:47:23.000 I mean X-Men started in the 60s.

01:47:25.000 It might have been a little bit deeper.

01:47:28.000 Polly Puri says, Tim, you should make a less sweet version of the Starbucks bottled frappuccino and sell it in convenience stores.

01:47:33.000 I would love to.

01:47:34.000 It's so incredibly difficult to do.

01:47:36.000 It's, like, nightmarishly difficult.

01:47:39.000 Yeah.

01:47:41.000 What do we have here?

01:47:42.000 Josh Tabalt says, grant them amnesty, double their taxes, and they can't vote for 20 years or 20 years after their 18th birthday.

01:47:50.000 20 years after their 18th birthday.

01:47:53.000 And double taxes.

01:47:56.000 I guess.

01:47:57.000 I don't know that that works either.

01:47:58.000 The issue I have is cultural degradation and social, I don't know, discohesion.

01:48:05.000 Is that a word?

01:48:06.000 The issue is that when you have a mass influx of non-citizens, then your social order breaks. 1.00

01:48:12.000 It just implodes.

01:48:14.000 Unless people want to integrate.

01:48:15.000 And if they don't want to integrate, then social order breaks down.

01:48:19.000 And you get war and conflict.

01:48:21.000 So when you look at like, it's wild, if you look at places like Dearborn, Michigan, they have really high rates of female genital mutilation.

01:48:30.000 That's what happens when you get on a place.

01:48:32.000 They had to pass laws about it.

01:48:33.000 Initially, there was a whole like trans lobby that came out and was like, you can't do this.

01:48:37.000 And it was like, oh, we're not doing this for reasons you think we're doing this.

01:48:40.000 Yeah.

01:48:40.000 Which was just a whack intersection of American current culture.

01:48:44.000 People end up fighting each other because you're like, that group of people is mutilating children.

01:48:49.000 And then they're like, it's our culture.

01:48:50.000 You have to respect it.

01:48:51.000 We live here.

01:48:51.000 And then it's like, they won't let people fight each other.

01:48:55.000 You talk about the left, like the left's coalition. 0.98

01:48:57.000 It really is based on, you know, Republicans are evil.

01:49:00.000 So you get very, very significantly different ideologies that are all coalescing on the left under the, we don't like Donald Trump or we don't like Republicans or whatever.

01:49:12.000 And you end up with, you know, the Palestinian protesters fighting with the pride parade, which we just saw like a couple days ago or whatever.

01:49:20.000 That kind of stuff is going to become more and more common as the left continues to fragment.

01:49:27.000 Mike Alvarez says, we should start calling Biden yet-to-be-convicted felon to counteract when the corporate media calls DJT a convicted felon.

01:49:34.000 Thank you and the crew for everything you guys do.

01:49:38.000 Look, Republicans, conservatives, stop living in Democrat world.

01:49:41.000 Trump's not a convicted felon.

01:49:42.000 They're just saying it.

01:49:44.000 Call Joe Biden whatever you want.

01:49:46.000 Call him Peter Peter.

01:49:48.000 Trump was not convicted in any sane and logical court.

01:49:51.000 CNN!

01:49:53.000 CNN said the court case was nonsense. 0.97

01:49:56.000 So it's just like a group of Democrats went, we all agree that Trump's a felon.

01:50:01.000 And then you're like, oh, now they're calling him a felon.

01:50:03.000 What?

01:50:04.000 They've been calling him all sorts of names.

01:50:05.000 It doesn't matter.

01:50:06.000 And they're being like, yeah, but a court decided. 1.00

01:50:08.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:50:10.000 We have a court right here now. 0.99

01:50:12.000 We're going to vote in the court of Timcast. 0.88

01:50:15.000 Is Joe Biden a pedo? 0.96

01:50:16.000 Yes. 0.98

01:50:17.000 That's one.

01:50:19.000 I don't have enough evidence.

01:50:20.000 I need to see the case, but probably.

01:50:23.000 Probably.

01:50:23.000 So do you abstain or?

01:50:25.000 I abstain.

01:50:26.000 Abstain. 0.98

01:50:26.000 Traitor. 0.98

01:50:27.000 I say based on Ashley Biden's diary where she says she was molested and took showers with her dad, I think the preponderance of evidence indicates a yes answer.

01:50:33.000 At least as far as a grand jury is concerned, I would say yes.

01:50:37.000 Yes.

01:50:37.000 Okay.

01:50:37.000 That's it.

01:50:38.000 A court has found Joe Biden is a pedophile. 0.60

01:50:41.000 I didn't say it was a legal court of law. 0.87

01:50:43.000 It was the Tim Kast courtroom.

01:50:46.000 I think we are a legal court of law.

01:50:49.000 People should recognize the authority that we're building.

01:50:52.000 So there was a story where Hunter, I think, called Joe Pedo Pete.

01:50:58.000 So his own son calls him a pedophile. 0.56

01:51:00.000 And then Ashley Biden's diary, which is confirmed to be real, says that she thinks she was molested, sexualized, and she showered with her dad and it wasn't appropriate.

01:51:07.000 It's always the videos of, like, when they're doing swearing-ins for Congress and the mom's moving their daughters away from him.

01:51:12.000 That's what gets me.

01:51:13.000 I'm like, ugh, there is something wrong.

01:51:15.000 Where he's sniffing kids and touching them?

01:51:16.000 Everyone in this room knows it, yeah.

01:51:18.000 But the fact that his own son, according to those, let me see if I can find that.

01:51:21.000 Did he really say that?

01:51:22.000 Yeah, he called him B2B.

01:51:23.000 That was, like, his name for him and his phone.

01:51:25.000 Yep.

01:51:27.000 It's creepy.

01:51:28.000 Yeah, it's really creepy.

01:51:29.000 If you like.

01:51:30.000 If if you if you could get the American people to like kind of really listen to the Biden family stories and internalize them.

01:51:40.000 We didn't talk about it today, but they did opening statements for Hunter Biden's gun possession charge.

01:51:46.000 And one of the things, so there's a bunch of people who are going to testify, but one of them is going to be Beau Biden's widow, who he had an affair with, broke up his own marriage after his brother died.

01:51:55.000 And apparently one of the things she might have to talk about is the fact that she got hooked on crack cocaine while dating Hunter Biden.

01:52:01.000 Like, his family has issues.

01:52:04.000 Daily Caller, I'm not going to show any of it, but Pedo Pete, massive 4chan hack of Hunter Biden's explicit text, images, videos, rocks the internet.

01:52:11.000 It's Daily Caller.

01:52:12.000 Ironic, too, considering some of the pictures that came out from that guy for him to say that about his father.

01:52:17.000 I mean, just call Biden Pedo Pete.

01:52:20.000 It was reported in the news that that's what Hunter called him, I guess.

01:52:23.000 So, you know, there you go.

01:52:27.000 What does this say?

01:52:28.000 They hacked his iCloud account?

01:52:31.000 Several videos show Biden walking to the beach.

01:52:32.000 I mean, there's videos and photos of him.

01:52:34.000 You know what I mean?

01:52:35.000 Just like Ken and Claire were saying, the opening statements today, they brought out the laptop.

01:52:40.000 You know, the laptop that didn't exist and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:52:43.000 All this BS that the government fed to everybody.

01:52:46.000 They brought it out.

01:52:47.000 It's full of all the stuff that it's been full of.

01:52:50.000 You know, all of the same stuff.

01:52:51.000 And I'm sure a lot of it will be put on to, you know, and held up as an exhibit for the state.

01:52:59.000 We'll see what happens.

01:53:00.000 Probably nothing, but... Remember they were saying it wasn't real?

01:53:02.000 What a time.

01:53:03.000 Yeah, oh, it's... It's all wild.

01:53:05.000 Like I said, if you're, if like all of the people, the 51 guys that signed the statement that it was likely Russian, blah, blah, blah, they should all lose their clearance.

01:53:17.000 Because they all still have it, I'm sure.

01:53:19.000 They should all lose their clearance and possibly they should be brought up on charges.

01:53:25.000 Because they lied.

01:53:27.000 about like espionage in a an election and and it was fine you know they definitely affected the um the results and the federal government is not supposed to have an opinion Right?

01:53:40.000 Like, all the people that are going to be out there, well, they were private citizens, etc.

01:53:44.000 The federal government is not supposed to have an opinion.

01:53:44.000 No.

01:53:47.000 And if members of the security, the intel community, are putting their stamp of approval on something, that word, that signature, comes with authority.

01:54:00.000 You can't deny that fact.

01:54:03.000 So the idea that the government didn't put their finger on the scale, with that alone, never mind any of the other stuff, the things that are questionable or whatever, I'm not getting into any of it, but to imagine that when they signed that paper saying that this was probably Russian propaganda, when they did that, they impacted the election.

01:54:21.000 They should all be charged.

01:54:23.000 Saddle effing Tramp says, dude, Dave needs to look at the USDA regulations on raising chickens for consumption. 0.98

01:54:28.000 He would probably have a stroke if he learned the regulations for organic.

01:54:33.000 Yeah, food regulations are insane.

01:54:35.000 What about consumer electronics?

01:54:36.000 There's other industries that are less regulated than roads, but I'll take that into consideration.

01:54:40.000 I think the surrogacy industry is very under-regulated.

01:54:45.000 Yeah, roads are regulated.

01:54:47.000 All right, Isaac Gorski says, July 4th is coming.

01:54:49.000 It's time we get the word out.

01:54:50.000 The Independence Day 2024.

01:54:52.000 We declare our independence from the corrupt federal bureaucracy.

01:54:55.000 Spread the word.

01:54:56.000 I don't know what that means, though.

01:55:00.000 Like, we're going to vote for Trump, I guess, and then try and restore a non-corrupt or weed out the corruption.

01:55:05.000 I will say this, though.

01:55:06.000 We are not having a show on the 4th or the 5th of July.

01:55:09.000 Oh, fun.

01:55:10.000 And we talked about—we were contemplating, like, the 4th of July, obviously, there's no show, because we're going to be out lighting fireworks and hanging out.

01:55:18.000 Ain't nobody's going to come hang out July 5th.

01:55:22.000 Because most of the celebrations are gonna be Friday night when people are off work and stuff.

01:55:26.000 And I was just like, I don't think we're gonna be able to actually get a show so that looks like four day weekend.

01:55:32.000 So.

01:55:33.000 That'd be fun.

01:55:33.000 We can all go be patriots and touch grass and throw fireworks and whatever.

01:55:37.000 Yeah.

01:55:38.000 We're legal.

01:55:39.000 Yes.

01:55:39.000 West Virginia's got fireworks stores all year round everywhere.

01:55:42.000 It's hilarious.

01:55:43.000 There's one near us that like right after 4th of July does a 50% discount for like several months, but then right around New Year's ends it because a lot of people light fireworks at New Year's.

01:55:54.000 It's just funny that, you know, most places they have the pop-up fireworks stores, but out here they're permanent.

01:55:59.000 As people are going there all the time, it's like, Yeah.

01:56:02.000 You need fireworks in West Virginia.

01:56:04.000 Do you get big old shells and stuff?

01:56:05.000 Oh, you got a hundred acres of just open field.

01:56:08.000 Come on.

01:56:09.000 Have to.

01:56:09.000 Yeah.

01:56:10.000 It's, it's, it's, it's almost a, it's a law.

01:56:11.000 I'm pretty sure it's a law here.

01:56:12.000 You know, West Virginia mandates that you need fireworks.

01:56:15.000 But you gotta be careful, you really do, because it was dry last 4th of July, and the fireworks, they come down, and they started grass fires.

01:56:24.000 And so we were laughing, it wasn't really serious, we just stomped them out, but I was like, hey, if you don't pay attention, it goes real slow, and it just slowly starts spreading out.

01:56:32.000 Did you guys see that there's a viral video where a dude lights a firecracker off on his lawn, and the lawn's dry, and it just burns all the lawns in the street?

01:56:41.000 That's wild. 0.86

01:56:42.000 And they're screaming and trying to put the fire out, and they're like, oh crap. 0.95

01:56:45.000 It started with a little tiny fire.

01:56:47.000 It was like a Roman candle.

01:56:50.000 And then it lit the grass on fire.

01:56:52.000 And they didn't try to stop it fast enough because they thought it wasn't serious.

01:56:56.000 And then it started spreading and they couldn't stop it.

01:56:57.000 And then it just started spreading to all the grass.

01:57:00.000 Did you grow up lighting fireworks off by yourself?

01:57:02.000 Oh yeah, I'm a huge fan from a boy.

01:57:04.000 We do it in Nashville where I live all the time.

01:57:08.000 They have the tents that pop up yearly.

01:57:10.000 It's not year-round like you've seen, but I love them.

01:57:13.000 I love the shells.

01:57:13.000 My favorite one is the Excalibur.

01:57:15.000 Really?

01:57:16.000 Yeah.

01:57:17.000 All right, Hal Gailey says, You're confusing private with corporate.

01:57:20.000 The state is who limits liability and nixes competition.

01:57:23.000 Private equals competitive and voluntary.

01:57:25.000 Pluralistic police is already everywhere.

01:57:27.000 Give the people and their money the teeth so cops cater to them. 0.99

01:57:33.000 What does that mean?

01:57:35.000 How am I confusing private and corporate?

01:57:37.000 Now, massive multinational corporate—conglomerate is probably a better word.

01:57:42.000 Conglomerate is the word, not corporate, that we're looking for.

01:57:44.000 So when I said before that I don't see a distinction between corporations and the state, what I meant to say was conglomerates and the state.

01:57:50.000 Massive multinational corporations.

01:57:52.000 As for private, so if I hire a private police force of my own volition, I can have them go do whatever I want them to—it doesn't make sense.

01:58:02.000 I suppose if laws are mandated by the will of the masses through an electoral process and adjudicated by judges, which are public, but police themselves are private, that might be able to work, because then the police who do wrong are held accountable by the judicial system.

01:58:19.000 So the police themselves as enforcers of the law can only enforce laws that are on the book, but they're private.

01:58:24.000 In which case, you wouldn't hire a police force that didn't know what the laws were.

01:58:28.000 You'd hire a police force that did, and you'd get a better police force.

01:58:32.000 But then I don't know how that would work if like...

01:58:35.000 Someone didn't pay for cops. 0.63

01:58:37.000 So, like, what happens if a guy goes and burns a house down, and the dude whose house got burned down didn't pay for police?

01:58:42.000 Would the police be like, well, we're not gonna stop the arsonist.

01:58:44.000 They'd still have to.

01:58:46.000 And so what happens then is, like with the mafia, they show up to the guy's house who doesn't pay, and they say, we have no choice but to stop this guy who's attacking you because of the risks to other people.

01:58:55.000 They're mad at us.

01:58:56.000 You gotta pay.

01:58:58.000 And then the mafia comes with baseball bats and smashes the display case in the front of the store, and they say, time to pay up your protection money.

01:59:05.000 That's how it works.

01:59:06.000 And then they expand and grow, and then eventually you've got a public- I think that's what police let happen in the summer of 2020.

01:59:14.000 Right, but it doesn't matter if they're private or not.

01:59:18.000 A private police department wouldn't be able to stop the summer of 2020 either.

01:59:21.000 What would they have done?

01:59:23.000 Mass rioting?

01:59:23.000 They'd be like, what can we do about it?

01:59:25.000 Mass protection.

01:59:26.000 How?

01:59:26.000 And they're accountable to the constituent that's buying it.

01:59:30.000 How would a thousand cops stop 10,000 rioters?

01:59:34.000 I mean... They wouldn't?

01:59:35.000 I don't know.

01:59:36.000 If you're doing hypotheticals and by the numbers, I don't know.

01:59:39.000 There's a lot of hypotheticals where we could say 30 people in this place could stop a thousand depending on the location, but this is all like, you know, just pie-in-the-sky stuff.

01:59:47.000 So, like, New York, Manhattan Island is 2.5 million people.

01:59:52.000 There's only like 30 to 40k cops in all of New York City in all five boroughs.

01:59:56.000 They don't have the police force to deal with even small-scale rioting.

01:59:59.000 It's not possible.

02:00:00.000 They don't have the money for it.

02:00:03.000 So people can already hire private security, I guess.

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