Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 17, 2024


Biden FREEZES On Stage, White House Claims Biden Vids Are DEEPFAKES w-Chris Rose | Timcast IRL


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2 hours and 2 minutes

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207.08916

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25,434

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2,038

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Summary

On this week's episode of Mythology and Conspiracy Theories, we take a look at the latest on Joe Biden's mysterious disappearance at a Democratic fundraiser. Plus, we talk about a Canadian study that suggests some people are concerned about civil war. And we have a special call-in show where you, the listeners, get to call in and ask a question.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you you
00:00:30.000 to because it's hard to tell exactly what's going on but he just stops
00:00:33.000 moving stares at the audience Obama's waving grabs Biden's arm and give him
00:00:39.000 a little tug and then Biden starts walking with him Obama puts his hand on his back and seems to lead him off stage.
00:00:46.000 Now Democrats are freaking out saying, it never happened, you're lying, but there's video of it.
00:00:50.000 I don't know how you deny this stuff.
00:00:52.000 Here's the best part.
00:00:53.000 You know, over the past couple of weeks, things have gotten really, really bad with Joe Biden.
00:00:57.000 You had that video from the G7 where he's like wandering off for some reason.
00:01:01.000 Karine Jean-Pierre claimed these were, quote, cheap fakes.
00:01:05.000 I don't know what that means.
00:01:06.000 And then deep fakes.
00:01:08.000 These are real videos of Joe Biden.
00:01:10.000 They are worrisome.
00:01:11.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:01:13.000 And I do have some some fun news for you guys, because apparently a Canadian study, they mentioned that they're concerned about Civil War.
00:01:22.000 So we're going to talk about that plus a whole lot more.
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00:02:32.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Chris Rose.
00:02:36.000 Thank you for letting me be on tonight, Tim.
00:02:38.000 It's a pleasure to be here.
00:02:39.000 What do you do?
00:02:39.000 Who are you?
00:02:40.000 I am a fourth-generation West Virginia coal miner who just won the Republican primary in West Virginia State Senate District 2.
00:02:47.000 I am Senator-elect.
00:02:48.000 I am essentially running unopposed for the general election.
00:02:50.000 And what makes my election unique is I went up against a two-term incumbent who was the Senate Health Chair.
00:02:56.000 He had $1.2 million in campaign support for a state Senate job.
00:02:59.000 It's only 60 days out of the year.
00:03:01.000 And my team defeated him with $54,000 in a grassroots activist campaign.
00:03:06.000 And it's been getting a lot of media buzz nationwide to show people that you can beat the establishment with good old grassroots campaigning, and that while money, you need a little bit of money to campaign, it's not always the guy with the most money wins.
00:03:17.000 That's right!
00:03:18.000 Glad to hear it, man.
00:03:19.000 Thanks for hanging out, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
00:03:21.000 Joining us tonight also is Aidan Mattis.
00:03:23.000 Hey guys, I'm Aidan Mattis.
00:03:24.000 I am the host and lead researcher for the Lore Lodge YouTube channel, where we talk about strange history, unsolved mysteries, and weird disappearances.
00:03:33.000 Two guests, one show.
00:03:33.000 That's cool.
00:03:34.000 I'm glad you guys both are here.
00:03:36.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com, Scanner News.
00:03:36.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
00:03:38.000 Follow them at TimCastNewsOnTheInternet.
00:03:41.000 Hi, Serge!
00:03:42.000 Yo, you too.
00:03:43.000 Let's get started, Tim.
00:03:44.000 Here's the big news.
00:03:45.000 First, we're going to start with this one, just so you can get an update on what's happening since this weekend.
00:03:49.000 Biden appears to freeze up and has to be led offstage by Obama at Megabucks LA fundraiser.
00:03:56.000 Now, you name it.
00:03:58.000 Democrat pundits are saying it never happened.
00:04:00.000 It's a lie.
00:04:02.000 My favorite was our good friend, the Krasensteins, our good friends, the Krasensteins, where they posted this video where it shows Biden smiling and waving, and then it cuts to a wide shot as Biden freezes up for about seven or so seconds, seven or eight seconds, he freezes, but this wide shot they post, you can't see anything.
00:04:19.000 So actually we have this clip that was posted by Chris Gardner from, I believe this is the Hollywood Reporter.
00:04:24.000 So this is, this is corporate press right here.
00:04:26.000 Take a look at this video.
00:04:27.000 Let's try and see if we can zoom in.
00:04:29.000 and uh... on the place for you there you can see is just
00:04:44.000 and and and i'm moving and
00:04:58.000 Oh, my God.
00:05:00.000 you So I counted.
00:05:02.000 It's about seven seconds where Biden just stops moving.
00:05:06.000 And his arms go down and he just stares.
00:05:08.000 And then Obama grabs his arm and gives him a little tug, and then Biden turns, starts walking, then he puts his hand on his back.
00:05:15.000 Now, I tell you this.
00:05:16.000 If it was Joe Rogan, who was standing on stage and smiling and just staring off, and Dave Smith grabbed his arm, gave him a tug, and then Joe turned, it was like, oh, and they walked off together, I wouldn't think anything of it.
00:05:28.000 But Joe Biden's had in the past week so many of these videos coming out that the real issue is, this is how I described it earlier today.
00:05:37.000 If your friend is walking, you know, you're like, let's say you're walking to go get a slice of pizza and he stumbles a little, he trips on his, you know, stumbles and you're like, whoa, are you all right?
00:05:44.000 You don't think anything of it.
00:05:45.000 Five minutes later, he does it again.
00:05:47.000 You're like, bro, are you something wrong?
00:05:49.000 Then, you start to notice that over the next couple of weeks, he seems to be tripping and stumbling a lot and having a hard time standing up.
00:05:55.000 You might be like, hey man, I think something's wrong.
00:05:57.000 You've been having issues.
00:05:58.000 This is what we're seeing with Joe Biden.
00:06:00.000 The reason why people are saying this looks bad for Joe is that it keeps happening over and over and over again.
00:06:06.000 What do you guys think?
00:06:07.000 Mountain out of Moho?
00:06:08.000 No, I think it's getting worse.
00:06:10.000 I mean, when the press was describing it, they were saying, you know, he had to get let off stage, the hand on the back motion, but I actually think the arm tug is the worst part.
00:06:18.000 The arm tug is a former president leading our current president off the stage.
00:06:22.000 Like, this is not good.
00:06:24.000 The fact that somebody else has to be like, you're supposed to walk away now.
00:06:28.000 And Corinne Jean-Pierre was asked about this during a press gaggle today, and she was like, Well, you guys are making a big deal out of nothing and they're old friends, you know?
00:06:36.000 That's just something that happens.
00:06:37.000 Old friends, you know, pat each other on the back and apparently guide each other gingerly off the stage?
00:06:44.000 Very, very weird to me.
00:06:45.000 I don't know how you guys feel.
00:06:46.000 I just don't understand why we have people this old in charge.
00:06:49.000 I get that they're the most experienced, but sit back, take an advisory role, be in the cabinet maybe, but stop running for office.
00:06:56.000 Stop being the guy who has the nuclear codes.
00:06:59.000 Let Gen X take over.
00:07:00.000 It's time.
00:07:01.000 I agree, and it's not even Gen X, I think millennials too.
00:07:04.000 Like, where are millennials in running for office?
00:07:06.000 Good.
00:07:06.000 We're starting to see it.
00:07:07.000 They should have been running more.
00:07:08.000 Way too much of Congress, the Senate, are a bunch of old people.
00:07:12.000 But I will give the caveat, while I certainly would prefer a much younger candidate, that's why I like Vivek, for instance, you can't, like, look, Joe Biden's, what is he, 81?
00:07:20.000 Yeah.
00:07:21.000 And Trump is, what, 77?
00:07:22.000 Just turned 78.
00:07:23.000 Because his birthday was, like, last Friday, right?
00:07:23.000 Just turned 78!
00:07:25.000 His birthday's Flag Day.
00:07:26.000 But, yeah, but 78?
00:07:28.000 I thought he just turned 77.
00:07:29.000 Let me double check.
00:07:29.000 So he's 78.
00:07:30.000 Yeah, let's make sure.
00:07:31.000 I honestly thought he was older.
00:07:33.000 Yeah.
00:07:34.000 I agree on the age thing.
00:07:35.000 But come on, like, Trump is spry.
00:07:38.000 You know what I mean?
00:07:40.000 Man, 78 years old.
00:07:42.000 And see, I'm not a big fan, right?
00:07:44.000 And that's why when people bring up Biden's age, Trump says, no, there's no problem with how old he is.
00:07:49.000 He's just a bad president.
00:07:50.000 It's like, ah, there is a problem with how old he is.
00:07:52.000 And there's a problem with how old Trump is too.
00:07:54.000 But there's like the gap between Biden's gaffes.
00:07:58.000 I mean, like Trump doesn't have these.
00:08:00.000 These just don't happen.
00:08:01.000 The media tries to make claims about Donald Trump.
00:08:04.000 But I gotta be honest.
00:08:05.000 If Donald Trump, I guess at his funder, at TPUSA, he said the wrong name of a doctor, and they were like, we got him!
00:08:12.000 He said the wrong- I'm like, we mix up names all the time.
00:08:14.000 Everyone does.
00:08:15.000 You could be 15, you could be 35, you could be 27, you could be 81.
00:08:18.000 People mix up names.
00:08:19.000 I'm not gonna- I don't get mad at Joe Biden for accidentally calling John Smith Rick Smith or something.
00:08:26.000 I think one time on the show I was talking about Bill Barr, the former Attorney General, and I said Bill Burr.
00:08:31.000 I say that all the time.
00:08:32.000 It's rough, man.
00:08:33.000 It's one vowel, but it makes a huge difference.
00:08:35.000 I'd take that.
00:08:35.000 I'd have Bill Burr.
00:08:37.000 But there was an issue.
00:08:38.000 I don't know.
00:08:38.000 He's like, he's pretty far left.
00:08:41.000 Can it get worse?
00:08:43.000 Yeah.
00:08:44.000 I'm not for a Bill Burr attorney general, I will say.
00:08:47.000 Bill Burr said during COVID, he said, I don't care.
00:08:51.000 I just turn on the TV.
00:08:52.000 If they tell me to do it, I'll do it.
00:08:53.000 And I'm like, but my point is, Joe Biden got names wrong.
00:08:57.000 He got the name of Syria wrong and said Libya.
00:08:59.000 And I'm like, that's a real big problem if he's giving orders.
00:09:02.000 Kind of feels like people aren't going to want to listen to him if he's given these, you know, if he's this deficient.
00:09:09.000 But again, it's not about whether or not you make a gaffe.
00:09:12.000 Trump can make a gaffe, but you watch Trump do these rallies off the cuff and he's lucid.
00:09:17.000 You look at Joe Biden and it's just...
00:09:20.000 It's getting exponentially worse. Has Joe Biden ever done an hour long interview? I mean, over
00:09:25.000 the weekend at Turning Point, Trump spoke for an hour. He does hour long like he did an hour
00:09:28.000 long interview with Dr. Phil like he can speak for a long period of time. I feel like we never
00:09:33.000 see that from Joe Biden. And even here, you know, maybe they're trying to mimic podcasting with this
00:09:39.000 like three person panel, make him seem more casual or whatever. But it also to me comes across as like
00:09:45.000 he can't actually be on stage for that long alone.
00:09:48.000 Like, he needs the break to be able to recover.
00:09:51.000 He was on for 40 minutes.
00:09:52.000 40 minutes with two other people.
00:09:53.000 Yeah, so probably didn't talk.
00:09:55.000 Tom could talk for 40 minutes just to himself, I'm sure.
00:09:57.000 Yeah, he probably does.
00:09:58.000 Like, it's a huge difference, you know?
00:09:59.000 And like, I, again, maybe this was a formatting choice to make him seem with it, cool, who knows?
00:10:05.000 But it just really did not convey a sense of strength or leadership.
00:10:10.000 Like, do you remember, there was a video of, I think it's from the G7 Summit, it's from an international meeting with, you know, you've got like, I don't know, man.
00:10:18.000 It's the grains of sand in the heap.
00:10:19.000 Trudeau, whatever. And Trump like moves someone out of the way so he can be in a better spot
00:10:23.000 for the photo. Like maybe you don't like it, but he is not going to be led off stage by
00:10:28.000 Obama. And I think that's that's telling of the mental state, even if they are similar
00:10:33.000 in age. I don't know, man, it's it's it's the grains of sand in the heap. You know,
00:10:38.000 I think with this Obama, they were supposed to leave the stage.
00:10:42.000 And the only reason Obama stayed and waved is because Biden stopped.
00:10:46.000 And he's thinking like, come on, we can't leave before the president.
00:10:50.000 Right.
00:10:51.000 And so that's why he finally just grabbed his arm.
00:10:53.000 I think the plan was you get up and now you walk off the stage.
00:10:56.000 Biden wasn't doing it.
00:10:58.000 He's lost.
00:10:59.000 He's lost out of his mind.
00:11:00.000 Yeah, and for the administration to say this is cheap fakes and we just need to be dismissive of this, this is a one-time thing, it's not.
00:11:06.000 It's happened three or four times within a week.
00:11:08.000 Normandy, the fundraiser, and it's happened several times now.
00:11:14.000 Didn't he, wasn't it pretty, in the last couple weeks he was giving that press briefing and then he got asked a question as he was exiting the room and he like turned back just smiled kind of weird. That was when they asked if he
00:11:23.000 was responsible for Trump going to prison.
00:11:25.000 Yes. For Trump's guilty conviction at prison. And then he just like,
00:11:28.000 and everyone's like, okay, this dude is like, either he's evil. And he was turning and giving
00:11:37.000 that smile like, yes, it's me, or his brain doesn't work.
00:11:41.000 And he's just like, and he doesn't It's not good.
00:11:45.000 I think this is the leadership of our country right now.
00:11:48.000 I mean, we're talking about a guy when you ask him, well, what do you think about the issue at the southern border?
00:11:51.000 And his response is he likes vanilla ice cream.
00:11:52.000 I mean, that's a huge problem.
00:11:53.000 The cognitive decline of this president is on full display.
00:11:57.000 I mean, 2020 was bad enough.
00:11:58.000 I mean, it's cognitive decline was already there.
00:12:00.000 But I mean, in the last four years, it's got so much worse.
00:12:03.000 And we have, you know, Biden being led off the stage by Obama is the perfect analogy for what this administration has been.
00:12:12.000 It's Obama's third term.
00:12:13.000 Biden, you know, the lights are off.
00:12:15.000 Nobody's home.
00:12:17.000 The people behind, let's face it, other people run this administration.
00:12:20.000 This guy doesn't know what world he lives in.
00:12:23.000 And that's what the rest of the world sees.
00:12:24.000 That's why we're not being taken seriously on a national stage.
00:12:27.000 That's why, you know, at the G7 Summit, that's the other one I was thinking of, he wanders off the stage at G7.
00:12:31.000 They're having this little photo op and he's wandering off.
00:12:33.000 Oh, they were outside at a skydiving demonstration.
00:12:37.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:12:38.000 And he turns around and starts walking away when they're doing a photo shoot.
00:12:40.000 And then what happens?
00:12:41.000 The media runs out.
00:12:42.000 No, no, he was greeting some other veterans.
00:12:45.000 It's like he's in the middle of a photo op with all these other world leaders.
00:12:49.000 He's clearly breaking protocol.
00:12:52.000 The Prime Minister of Italy went to go get him, like, not good!
00:12:55.000 Thank you for that, I guess, Italy, but rough all around.
00:12:59.000 I honestly, I kind of wonder how much people really do care at this point because I kind of just feel like there's no country.
00:13:05.000 You know, I hate to say it because it sounds, I don't know if it's blackpilled or whatever, but how many times can you point out that the President's brain doesn't work?
00:13:12.000 Many people have been saying for years he's a puppet, weakened at Bernie's president, and I'm like, if that's the case, and Trump's being charged with crimes that don't exist, and we got this one video, this one story, a J6er has been in pretrial detention for 1,200 days.
00:13:30.000 I'm like, I don't think we have a functioning country at all.
00:13:35.000 It's just not there.
00:13:37.000 Yeah, and the Libertarians just nominated a furry, so that's not great.
00:13:42.000 Well, it's not actually a fur, is he?
00:13:43.000 He had, like, the dog mask thing in one of his pictures.
00:13:46.000 No!
00:13:46.000 Yeah, the same one as the general who had the dog mask?
00:13:49.000 Yeah, there's a picture of Chase Oliver with that on.
00:13:50.000 Chase Oliver wearing a dog mask.
00:13:52.000 That's a- Wow.
00:13:54.000 Unless it was, like, fake, but it looked real to me.
00:13:57.000 I think part of the issue with the- Go Libertarians!
00:13:59.000 Yeah, right, like, thanks.
00:14:01.000 I think part of the issue is that the Democrats are successfully trying to Pivot from a figurehead presidency.
00:14:08.000 They're trying to sort of say like, oh, Biden, he's, you guys are mean to him.
00:14:12.000 You know, he does everything right all the time.
00:14:14.000 But you know what?
00:14:15.000 If you elect Trump, he's going to take every right away from you.
00:14:17.000 He's going to lock you guys all up.
00:14:19.000 Like they have successfully tried to steer the ship in such a fear-mongering path that it's actually, it doesn't matter who's president because it just can't be Trump.
00:14:19.000 It's all awful.
00:14:29.000 And that is sort of problematic for voters because Biden's not actually popular with his own party anymore.
00:14:35.000 You ready for this one?
00:14:35.000 Here we go.
00:14:36.000 CBS Austin.
00:14:37.000 White House claims recent viral videos of Biden are actually deepfakes.
00:14:42.000 And Corinne Jean-Pierre actually invented a new word I had never heard before.
00:14:45.000 Cheapfakes.
00:14:46.000 I was trying to make out what she said.
00:14:48.000 I still don't know that's exactly what she said.
00:14:50.000 But according to the Daily Beast, she said the word cheapfake.
00:14:53.000 Well, here you go.
00:14:55.000 Ironically, several recent fakes actually attacked the president for thanking troops—for thanking troops.
00:15:02.000 That is what they're attacking the president for.
00:15:04.000 Both in Normandy this happened, and again in Italy.
00:15:08.000 And I think that it tells you everything that we need to know about how desperate—how desperate Republicans are here.
00:15:17.000 And instead of talking about the president's performance in office—and what I mean by that is his legislative wins, what he's been able to do for the American people across the country—we're seeing these deepfakes, these manipulated videos.
00:15:31.000 And it is, again, done in bad faith.
00:15:34.000 So Charlie Kirk posted, unbelievable. Kareem Jean-Pierre is blaming deep fakes for all the
00:15:39.000 videos going around exposing how old, feeble, and senile Joe Biden looks anytime he steps out in
00:15:43.000 public. This sums up the White House comm strategy in one video, don't believe your lying eyes.
00:15:47.000 I called this. I said, I'm not saying I'm the only one who called, I was just saying
00:15:52.000 the AI conversation is going to turn into a tool to deny bad press.
00:15:59.000 And Democrat default libs are going to believe it.
00:16:02.000 And this is why they do it.
00:16:03.000 These people are evil.
00:16:05.000 They are liars.
00:16:06.000 I cannot understand.
00:16:08.000 What this, like what goes through a person like Karine Jean-Pierre's head, when she steps out there and just lies through her teeth, then accuses everyone else of lying.
00:16:16.000 Yo, we can all watch these videos.
00:16:18.000 Over and over and over again, we're like, these things add up.
00:16:21.000 And now she's saying they're deep fakes.
00:16:23.000 Oh, I also want to shout out when she mentioned that she had in Normandy and with the G7 in Italy.
00:16:29.000 Calling those deepfakes where he was trying to thank the troops.
00:16:33.000 She didn't mention what the subject of those videos actually was.
00:16:37.000 It was not a deepfake when Biden squatted on the stage and some people believed that he was having a boom boom.
00:16:44.000 You know what I mean?
00:16:45.000 And that's unfortunate if that's the case.
00:16:47.000 We don't know for sure.
00:16:49.000 But they're calling it a deepfake.
00:16:51.000 I'm sorry, that actually says to me that I think it's probably more likely to be true that Biden pooped his pants and he's seen Alan wandering off, because they're calling them deepfakes.
00:17:02.000 You know, the bigger the story, the bigger lie.
00:17:03.000 They're really hamming this up.
00:17:04.000 Yeah, the clips that I saw of all of these things originated in mainstream media.
00:17:09.000 Yeah, it looked like news coverage.
00:17:10.000 Right.
00:17:10.000 It was a clip, like, with the NBC News banner going around the bottom.
00:17:15.000 It's with, you know, whatever CNN logo.
00:17:17.000 Like, unless you're saying someone I watched one on an MSNBC morning show.
00:17:24.000 So unless you're telling me somebody let the MSNBC morning shows watch a fake version of this, I think you are just lying to yourselves.
00:17:30.000 I think you are lying through your teeth and hoping that your narrative is the one that ultimately is promoted by the press, which who, by the way, also shared these videos of Biden speaking in this raspy, slurred voice, looking lost.
00:17:42.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:17:43.000 And yet she's just expecting, I guess, their allies in the media to back her up.
00:17:48.000 But I mean, you were just criticizing the general age, Aiden.
00:17:51.000 You're voting for Trump.
00:17:53.000 I genuinely don't know what I'm going to do.
00:17:56.000 I have never voted for Trump.
00:17:59.000 I was hoping that we were going to get Dave Smith or Josh Smith or any of the Libertarian Smiths.
00:18:05.000 There are quite a few of them, actually.
00:18:06.000 Yeah. And we got now we have we have 81 year old Joe Biden.
00:18:10.000 We have 78 year old Trump and we have 30 40 something year old Chase Oliver who wears furry dog
00:18:16.000 puppy play masks. Like what am I for real? I'm at this point I'm gonna vote for like the
00:18:20.000 Constitution Party. I don't even know just just out of protest. I don't think he was wearing a dog
00:18:24.000 mask. What percentage of voters? It wasn't like the full like furry dog mask. It was like the kink dog
00:18:29.000 mask.
00:18:30.000 Yeah, I know, I get that, but I've never seen a photo of Chase Oliver wearing the kink mask.
00:18:34.000 It was being shared in libertarian circles.
00:18:36.000 Wow.
00:18:37.000 I don't know, man.
00:18:39.000 Maybe, like I said, maybe it's fake, but it did not look good, and I mean- I watched the guy talk, it's just, there's nothing there.
00:18:46.000 He's gonna come out and say, that's a cheap fake.
00:18:49.000 Yeah.
00:18:49.000 You got no choice, you gotta vote for Trump now.
00:18:51.000 I don't want to.
00:18:54.000 I mean, the purpose of voting for a president is for two big reasons.
00:18:59.000 Law enforcement and military foreign policy.
00:19:03.000 So, you vote for Joe Biden, what do you get?
00:19:05.000 War?
00:19:06.000 Yeah.
00:19:07.000 You vote for Trump?
00:19:08.000 Well, when Trump was president the first time around, he was actually withdrawing our troops and trying to bring peace.
00:19:13.000 Whether he was successful or not, some people have opinions about the Abraham Accords, like Dave Smith, and I disagree on that, but he was bringing peace.
00:19:20.000 Crossing the demilitarized zone into North Korea was one of the most significant moves made by a U.S.
00:19:26.000 president in my lifetime, maybe even in history.
00:19:28.000 I know there's no Korean War 200 years ago, but a president walking into enemy territory and shaking the hands with the enemy leader trying to get a peace agreement is massive.
00:19:39.000 You vote for Joe Biden, you get war.
00:19:40.000 To be fair, you vote for Chase Oliver.
00:19:42.000 I do not believe Chase Oliver will start wars.
00:19:44.000 Yeah, that's the difficulty.
00:19:45.000 It's like, I really hate the optics on this guy, but I don't think he's going to do any foreign policy no-nos.
00:19:51.000 His domestic policy is... I like his economics.
00:19:54.000 I don't necessarily like some of his social stuff.
00:19:58.000 Oliver?
00:19:58.000 Yeah.
00:19:59.000 I don't even like his economic stuff.
00:20:00.000 He's pro-vaccine mandate.
00:20:02.000 Yeah, but that's not economic.
00:20:04.000 I mean, like, businesses shutting down, firing people who've had careers for 10 years.
00:20:08.000 I see what you're saying.
00:20:08.000 I see what you're saying then, yeah.
00:20:09.000 That's not great.
00:20:10.000 Mandates subsidized by the government?
00:20:11.000 Like, I don't understand any of this.
00:20:13.000 And I always gotta stress this, because immediately Libertarians come out and they go, he is not for mandates.
00:20:17.000 He does not believe the government should be allowed to... Almost all of the vaccine mandates were private.
00:20:22.000 Were private businesses that were saying, we've hereby just arbitrarily decided, out of our 100,000 employees, we're gonna force them to undergo medical treatment or they get fired.
00:20:30.000 Yeah.
00:20:30.000 So that's the Libertarian Party for you.
00:20:32.000 Trump kept saying it shouldn't be allowed.
00:20:34.000 It's your choice.
00:20:35.000 I at least can accept that.
00:20:37.000 But I don't know how you could not vote for Trump.
00:20:41.000 I personally really liked the discussion that was going around.
00:20:43.000 It was being led by the Mises caucus of basically taking the Libertarian Party and saying, hey, you want our three to five percent of the vote that you never get?
00:20:51.000 Three to five percent.
00:20:53.000 Three to five historically, you know.
00:20:55.000 Recently, the last four elections.
00:20:57.000 But, you know, my point is, like, they had a deal.
00:20:59.000 It was basically, you get our votes, you'll probably win the election no matter what, but we want something in return.
00:21:05.000 And the more, like, traditional libertarian side was like, absolutely not.
00:21:09.000 As if we were gonna win anything on our own, ever.
00:21:12.000 Yeah.
00:21:12.000 We weren't.
00:21:13.000 Did you ever think of yourself as a libertarian?
00:21:15.000 I mean I have a lot of libertarian leaning policies.
00:21:17.000 I worked with the Tea Party movement for many years and that stems from libertarianism in a way.
00:21:22.000 Ron Paul, Rand Paul were big champions of the Tea Party movement and that's how I got my start helping people like them and Alex Mooney and Mike Lee and others get elected.
00:21:32.000 And I do have a lot of libertarian views.
00:21:33.000 I want government out of my life and out of the way.
00:21:36.000 And you know, like West Virginia, you know, you think of coal country, right?
00:21:39.000 War on coal.
00:21:40.000 That's government interference that took a very prosperous state and turned it into one of the least economically ranked states in the country.
00:21:46.000 We're at the bottom of every measure you could think of now because of that government interference.
00:21:50.000 So yeah, a lot of West Virginians fighting back against that are libertarian in nature.
00:21:54.000 We want government out of our lives.
00:21:56.000 So Joe Jorgensen in 2020 got 1.2%.
00:21:59.000 Yeah, that might have been worse than I thought it was.
00:22:02.000 Yeah.
00:22:03.000 Dude, we were at 13 in the polls with Johnson at one point, and then he made the best foreign policy claim of all time, and everybody said, well, absolutely not.
00:22:12.000 That was actually a good point you made before the show, what is Aleppo?
00:22:15.000 And, you know, you were like, that's actually the correct position.
00:22:18.000 I actually agree.
00:22:20.000 Like, you know, I was always saying that if If it were Trump and he was asked about something he didn't know, he would just patter like a boss.
00:22:30.000 He'd be like, Aleppo, I know a lot of people are concerned about it, but we're going to talk about jobs.
00:22:34.000 Jobs are more important.
00:22:36.000 And that would be the deflection.
00:22:38.000 You don't got to address what it is.
00:22:39.000 You don't got to say anything about it.
00:22:41.000 Johnson goes, and what is Aleppo?
00:22:43.000 And if you think about it.
00:22:45.000 It is bad.
00:22:46.000 The president's supposed to be in charge of foreign policy.
00:22:49.000 But it's funny when you think about it.
00:22:51.000 We'd be better for the president who didn't know what was going on at all, because it would imply we ain't doing anything there.
00:22:56.000 Instead, we get a president who's like, let's secretly put troops.
00:23:00.000 Barack Obama, when did we declare war on Syria?
00:23:04.000 Does anybody remember when the declaration happened and the troops were ordered to Syria?
00:23:08.000 Obama woke up one day and said to himself, I think I should send troops there, and he said to himself, that's a great idea, sir, and that's what happened.
00:23:14.000 And what are they doing?
00:23:15.000 Oil.
00:23:16.000 Donald Trump.
00:23:17.000 Man, I love this guy, Trump.
00:23:19.000 He's in office and it was so much fun.
00:23:22.000 When he comes out, that famous moment in front of the helicopter, and he's like, we're selling weapons to the Saudis, it's fantastic, it'll be great for our economy, and all of the anti-war leftists were just like, Oh my God.
00:23:33.000 He just came out and said it.
00:23:34.000 He just admitted it.
00:23:36.000 That's what we do.
00:23:37.000 We sell weapons to these countries and bolster our economy.
00:23:40.000 And then he mentioned, we're trying to get our troops out of Syria.
00:23:43.000 We're going to leave a couple hundred in to guard the oil.
00:23:46.000 I was like, wow.
00:23:48.000 I kind of feel like he was given a middle finger to the deep state by doing those things.
00:23:52.000 Just at blurting it out.
00:23:54.000 That's also how you know aliens aren't real, because that dude would have just told you.
00:23:57.000 He would have been like, oh yeah, it was aliens.
00:23:59.000 That was a conversation we were having on Inverted World last night.
00:24:03.000 Yeah, last night was about aliens and the whole like, are they among us already thing.
00:24:07.000 And it's just like, if they were, I feel like we would know it by now.
00:24:12.000 It's just the illegal alien.
00:24:13.000 You saw that Harvard study?
00:24:14.000 Yeah.
00:24:16.000 I'm not against it.
00:24:17.000 I like the idea.
00:24:18.000 I mean, I'd have a Bigfoot series.
00:24:20.000 Like, I don't necessarily believe in Bigfoot, but, like, I'm open to it.
00:24:23.000 But, you know, that was, seeing that, like, the way the government handled the alien thing was so different from how they've handled every actual disclosure of anything ever.
00:24:33.000 They were like, oh, yeah, everybody, come on, media, everybody come here.
00:24:36.000 We're gonna have a big hearing.
00:24:37.000 We're gonna have a really big hearing and tell everybody everything.
00:24:40.000 And I think with the government, considering how much closed-door shit happens, like, it's just not... It doesn't make sense.
00:24:47.000 I can't get that.
00:24:48.000 Harvard put out that study where they said maybe they're fairies.
00:24:50.000 You saw that?
00:24:51.000 Oh yeah.
00:24:52.000 No joke.
00:24:53.000 I'm being dead serious.
00:24:55.000 A Harvard paper or whatever, I don't even call it a study, said that they believe that aliens could be fairies.
00:25:00.000 And elves.
00:25:02.000 That's very open-minded of them.
00:25:03.000 A little too open-minded.
00:25:06.000 They're thinking outside the box.
00:25:07.000 I love that creativity.
00:25:09.000 I think they called them cryptoterrestrials at one point.
00:25:11.000 Yeah.
00:25:12.000 Yeah.
00:25:13.000 I've heard that West Virginia has the most cryptics in the nation.
00:25:15.000 Cryptids.
00:25:15.000 Cryptids, yeah.
00:25:17.000 Sorry, I'm fired.
00:25:17.000 You got Flatwoods Monster, you got Mothman, you got your... Snailigaster.
00:25:20.000 Yeah.
00:25:21.000 Snailigaster.
00:25:21.000 You got the, um... Oh, man, I'm forgetting them.
00:25:25.000 Don't you have Sheepsquatch?
00:25:27.000 I think so.
00:25:27.000 I think that is West Virginia.
00:25:28.000 Mothman, of course.
00:25:29.000 You're talking about Bigfoot.
00:25:30.000 The Bigfoot Festival is actually coming up down in Sutton, West Virginia.
00:25:33.000 So that's actually coming up.
00:25:34.000 What's that?
00:25:34.000 The Grafton Monster.
00:25:35.000 Yeah.
00:25:36.000 Oh yeah.
00:25:36.000 Anybody who plays Fallout 76 knows all about all the West Virginia Cryptids because they're all in the game.
00:25:41.000 But these are all actually based on actual monsters, which I have no idea why West Virginia has so many, but it has a lot.
00:25:48.000 Can you answer this for us as a native?
00:25:51.000 No, I'm not really sure, but you know, this is just something you grow up with, these folklore stories, and it's just, you know, the older generations just love telling stories, and I guess, I wouldn't assume a lot of them are based off similar characters, that just, it's kind of like a thing you whisper in the ear, and it spreads across the classroom when you're a kid, and it changes by the time it gets to the end.
00:26:06.000 I think it's how a lot of these characters were created, is from storytelling and stuff.
00:26:10.000 Treasured regional culture, I guess.
00:26:12.000 You know what I think it is?
00:26:13.000 What I think it is, is that West Virginia is very mountainous.
00:26:16.000 The reason it wasn't heavily settled, despite being East Coast, was because of the Appalachian Mountains.
00:26:22.000 And so you don't get a lot of people there.
00:26:26.000 It makes it easier for stories to emerge.
00:26:28.000 So a guy, he's walking through the woods and he sees a gigantic sheep or a goat and it, you know, bucks or something.
00:26:35.000 And then he goes and tells his friends like, I swear it was standing on its legs and it was a sheep.
00:26:39.000 And they're like, like Sasquatch, but a sheep?
00:26:41.000 Yeah, sheep-squatch.
00:26:43.000 And there's no, there's like, there's less people around.
00:26:45.000 So it becomes a tall tale.
00:26:47.000 Yeah.
00:26:47.000 In big cities, everybody talks to each other and it just goes on the internet.
00:26:51.000 And then everybody just says, you know, debunk, nothing happened.
00:26:54.000 Or someone tries to explain it away.
00:26:55.000 You get more fun when you live out in the middle of nowhere.
00:26:57.000 I wouldn't be surprised if it's also part of the Irish, the Scotch-Irish heritage here because a lot of that culture has sort of a mythical creature element and especially the folklore telling.
00:27:08.000 You know, parables or all these stories are often used to teach people lessons and so there's a level of like crossover culture.
00:27:13.000 You have a community that's like we got to be able to reference something and also we believe that in these, you know, these other things.
00:27:19.000 It's an interesting potential consequence of regional immigration.
00:27:23.000 Maybe they're all just elves.
00:27:24.000 That's what Harvard thinks.
00:27:26.000 That's where your money's going.
00:27:26.000 That's the whole fairies and elves thing that they're doing.
00:27:29.000 That's because there is this wide classification of that in entirely continental folklore, but that's one of the cool things, what you were saying, the Irish and Scots stuff.
00:27:36.000 They brought all their fairies over, and because of the way their culture was set up with the clans and the tribes, they actually felt a close connection to a lot of the Native American tribes they ran into out here.
00:27:47.000 So they would intermarry a lot, they would trade, and what happened in a lot of cases was you got these stories where you'd have the fairy stories from the Irish and the Scots, and then you'd have these stories of things like the Wendigo and the Tulkaloo and stuff like that, that the Cherokee and the Algonquin had, and these things then morph and turn into even more things.
00:28:06.000 And then as you get the communities going out, they come up with all sorts of different crazy stuff.
00:28:09.000 See, this is the thing that I think is so important about regional culture in America.
00:28:12.000 Like, you would need to be here from here and grow up with this to really be able to appreciate it.
00:28:16.000 And if we just create this, like, homogenous online culture where everyone just moves from one big city to the other, like, you will lose this stuff.
00:28:24.000 No, he's absolutely right.
00:28:25.000 You know, like, Cherokee is a predominant part of West Virginia culture as well, because every one of us are like, you know, I'm sixth generation West Virginian.
00:28:31.000 If you have been here that amount of time or longer, there's a chance you have Cherokee blood in you as well, as along with, like, you know, Scottish American or Irish or something like that.
00:28:39.000 So to his point, he's spot on.
00:28:41.000 Most people in West Virginia have at least one of those three in their ancestry.
00:28:45.000 Let's jump to the other big news of the day from scnr.com.
00:28:49.000 And for the life of me, I don't understand why no one is talking about this.
00:28:54.000 The Senate has released their summary of the National Defense Authorization Act, which would require women to register for the draft.
00:29:03.000 This is big, okay?
00:29:04.000 The House has already passed the National Defense Authorization Act.
00:29:07.000 The Senate is now putting theirs forward, which includes requiring women to register for the draft.
00:29:16.000 National Defense Authorization Act would require women to register for Selective Service.
00:29:19.000 Rep.
00:29:19.000 Roy responded to the news, writing, quote, you can go straight to hell over my dead body.
00:29:26.000 The U.S.
00:29:26.000 Senate Armed Service Committee version of the NDAA for fiscal year 2025 would automatically register women for the draft.
00:29:32.000 Heck, they don't even got to do it, they're forced to do it.
00:29:35.000 The committee approved the bill with a vote of 22 to 3.
00:29:37.000 The Strengthening the Joint Force and Defense Workforce section of the NDAA says the Military Selective Service Act would be amended to require the registration of women for selective service.
00:29:48.000 Since 1917, when the Selective Service was created, all men ages 18 to 25 I've been required to register.
00:29:54.000 However, there has not been a draft since the Vietnam War.
00:29:57.000 Must Read Alaska reports in 2017 Congress created a commission to study the matter of adding women to the draft.
00:30:02.000 The commission's final report required by the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act recommended that women be drafted.
00:30:08.000 This is a necessary and fair step, making it possible to draw on the talent of a unified nation in a time of national emergency, the 11 commissioners wrote in their final report.
00:30:17.000 The effort has failed in previous years, versions of the NDA, but this year it looks like it may pass.
00:30:23.000 Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, a Democrat, has been one of the biggest advocates of adding women to the Selective Service.
00:30:29.000 Republicans, including Rep.
00:30:30.000 Chip Roy of Texas and Senator Mike Lee of Utah, have been pushing back forcefully.
00:30:34.000 I'm with Democrats on this one.
00:30:37.000 I am 100% with the Democrats on this one.
00:30:41.000 I don't understand why Republicans think it's okay that women get civic privileges without civic responsibilities.
00:30:47.000 And so, so long as we have a 19th Amendment, women must be drafted.
00:30:53.000 And I will add, drafting doesn't mean combat.
00:30:55.000 It doesn't mean you put the women on the front line.
00:30:57.000 They can do tons of different jobs, like janitor, or chef, PR officers.
00:31:05.000 They can do daycare.
00:31:08.000 They can do all of these all of these jobs and not fight.
00:31:08.000 Right?
00:31:14.000 I think women going to combat would be a terrible idea.
00:31:17.000 And I think there, you know, potentially, yeah, in wartime, maybe you need more bodies to do sort of administrative stuff at home.
00:31:23.000 But generally, I think drafts are for boys.
00:31:27.000 And I think it's a bad idea to mix women in because they'll just end up competing for the right to be in combat.
00:31:31.000 And that's a bad idea because it risks everyone's life.
00:31:33.000 Telling women that they have to, like, machine parts for tools does not mean the debate—like, I don't like these arguments where people say, if X, then you are guaranteed to get women in combat.
00:31:50.000 When we say women should be required to engage in some kind of civic service in the time of national emergency, whether you want to have a debate over combat is still an entirely separate conversation.
00:32:02.000 If women want the right to vote, then they are going to war.
00:32:05.000 And that means making guns in factories.
00:32:08.000 That means driving transport vehicles, transporting domestically, maybe delivering cargo.
00:32:17.000 Men can go and fight, and women can drive trucks transporting weapons and munitions to military bases domestically.
00:32:23.000 I'd be happy to do all of that, and I'd be happy to draft women to do it, but I don't think it should be the military, because I don't think afterwards they should be able to qualify for the GI benefits.
00:32:30.000 Like, if you went to war, if you have seen combat, I think you should be treated differently than someone that we intentionally said, you have to do it, but you get to stay in a factory.
00:32:38.000 Like, that's a totally different thing.
00:32:39.000 I'm happy to set up, like, a civic service corps for women that they have to be drafted into, but I don't think that they should be in the military, because again, the military comes with benefits.
00:32:46.000 There's also a lot of just inherent danger to women beyond what is dangerous to men in the military, the kinds of things that they have to deal with as threats.
00:32:55.000 I mean, there's certain types of assault that men typically are not subject to.
00:32:59.000 There are, you know, the fact that people might go out of their way a little bit more to save a woman than a man.
00:33:04.000 There's a number of reasons that this could be risky.
00:33:06.000 I actually really like the idea of a civil service corps.
00:33:09.000 Going back to Starship Troopers, you know, everybody memes on the movie, but the book is serious.
00:33:14.000 And I think that the idea of citizenship, you know, and services is a good point.
00:33:17.000 That said, I do worry that if we have a draft for women, part of the reason we were so successful in World War II is that women were able to fill the roles that men typically had back home while the men were overfighting.
00:33:28.000 And I would worry that if we drafted them directly into the military, we wouldn't have the workforce we need.
00:33:34.000 I'm gonna give a shout out to Josie, the Red Hood Libertarian, who said, here are the names of the sluts for war who want to conscript your daughters for World War III because they know your sons won't be enough to satisfy their bloodlust.
00:33:44.000 Wow!
00:33:45.000 Tell us how you really feel, Josie.
00:33:47.000 Nope, I'm still with Democrats on this one.
00:33:50.000 I reject the notion that there are second-class citizens in this country.
00:33:55.000 Men should not be forced to die for other people who don't have the same responsibilities.
00:34:00.000 I reject that outright.
00:34:01.000 Now, that being said, if you want to negotiate rights and privileges and how civic duty operates, then we can have that conversation.
00:34:11.000 I reject Mazie Hirono and Kirsten Gillibrand and Jeanne Shaheen, whom I'm assuming is a woman.
00:34:20.000 They have no right to vote for war if they're not subject to it.
00:34:25.000 So my position is, so long as we have a 19th Amendment and we have female politicians who can vote on when I have to die, I say, so do they.
00:34:35.000 Now, unfortunately, and let's be real, All of the members of Congress are too old to be drafted.
00:34:43.000 So even the men are voting for young men to go and die for them.
00:34:46.000 And I think that's wrong.
00:34:49.000 And I love that back in the early 1900s, there was like an attempted amendment that said, if you vote in favor of war, you volunteer for it automatically.
00:34:56.000 I like that.
00:34:57.000 That's what I want to see.
00:34:58.000 I want to see this.
00:34:59.000 How about we say this?
00:35:00.000 Okay, no women for the draft.
00:35:02.000 Compromise.
00:35:02.000 No one for the draft.
00:35:03.000 But any politician who votes for any kind of war provision has volunteered for it.
00:35:09.000 In ancient Rome, senators led armies.
00:35:12.000 Hell, in the medieval period, bishops led armies.
00:35:14.000 And these guys are sitting back in DC in a nice air-conditioned office while there's a bunch of guys my age and younger getting shot at in the Middle East, in the desert.
00:35:24.000 I like the idea of forcing them to go.
00:35:25.000 When was the last time Congress voted on war though?
00:35:27.000 Like that becomes, if you have that amendment, it's not that we shouldn't, I would be interested in it, but theoretically they're all just gonna be like, okay, we'll never vote for war again.
00:35:36.000 Obama, send us in, don't say anything.
00:35:38.000 Right, and that's why I'm saying...
00:35:41.000 Right now the funny thing is you have Republicans arguing, oh this is so annoying, when the suffrage movement happened there was a massive movement against it because women did not want civic responsibility like fire brigade and military service.
00:35:56.000 And so they said, no way, dude.
00:35:58.000 And so the compromise was spineless, weak men decided to grant privileges to women and push men into a second-class citizen status where they have to fight and die for people who can vote for them to go fight and die.
00:36:11.000 I don't care if you're a man or woman.
00:36:12.000 I don't care if it's based on gender lines or any other lines.
00:36:15.000 The idea that one group of people gets to vote for the other group to go fight and die, I think is wrong.
00:36:19.000 And so whether it's the rich and the poor or men and women, I reject that.
00:36:23.000 And this is the problem we've always had, first in the country, is that the poor people are used as cannon fodder.
00:36:27.000 Rich people, if their kids got drafted, they would pay to get someone else to go do it.
00:36:32.000 I don't like that as well.
00:36:33.000 But to be fair, at least that's not like a free market thing going on.
00:36:36.000 You know, some rich dude says, you go take my son's place, I'll give you a ton of money.
00:36:40.000 And they could say no, and they just say yes, because they want the money.
00:36:43.000 So it sucks, but it's not as coercive.
00:36:46.000 You're offering someone something in exchange.
00:36:49.000 With this, and women's suffrage, they basically said, all women can now vote to go send men to die on their behalf.
00:36:55.000 Okay, now hold on.
00:36:56.000 Men used to choose to go fight wars on behalf of the women they cared about, their children, their families.
00:37:02.000 Now you've got crackpot psychopath Just sociopath individuals in Congress, and men and women alike, voting to send people to go die for what?
00:37:15.000 Ukraine?
00:37:16.000 For oil in Syria?
00:37:19.000 So what's pissing me off right now is Republicans being like, we will not allow our daughters to be drafted, but they will get all of the rights, they will get all of the privileges, and they have no responsibility.
00:37:29.000 Except taxes, I guess.
00:37:31.000 I'm like, nah.
00:37:32.000 Like, you want equality?
00:37:33.000 You get equality.
00:37:34.000 Right now, it's gonna be really weird, too, because a bunch of, like, Gen Z women are probably gonna be on the Republican side on this one.
00:37:41.000 Yeah.
00:37:42.000 Well, you see all the memes that come up where it's like, you know...
00:37:45.000 Women cry to be in draft and women and they're all it's like feminists and they're all making sandwiches or whatever like I don't think women always think through the things that they're asking for in terms of legislation.
00:37:55.000 I think that this idea that they you know they already have the option to go into the military.
00:38:02.000 They already have the option to try and be a part of civil service.
00:38:05.000 Mostly what's happening is they're saying well we want to be allowed to but we don't actually feel any obligation to contribute to these communities.
00:38:11.000 There was a poll done a couple years ago in 2021 that found the majority of Democrats and 18 to 39 year olds were in favor of women being drafted.
00:38:21.000 So this may be a hot take, but I just don't think there should be any draft at all.
00:38:27.000 Ever, unless it's like we're being attacked.
00:38:30.000 I'm sorry, but if if we need to go over there, we don't we don't we never need to go over there.
00:38:35.000 We can stay here.
00:38:36.000 That is an option.
00:38:37.000 We have the greatest air force in the world.
00:38:38.000 We also have the second greatest air force in the world.
00:38:40.000 It's in our navy.
00:38:42.000 We don't need to go anywhere.
00:38:44.000 We can stay here.
00:38:45.000 We do not need a draft.
00:38:46.000 We have an all-volunteer army.
00:38:49.000 If we have that, I don't see any reason to have a draft.
00:38:51.000 If we get attacked, if Russia or China come here, sure, but... That's why we need a draft.
00:38:55.000 So the issue of whether we need a draft is...
00:38:58.000 Unrelated to the fact that we have corrupt government officials that would exploit a draft to go send people to die so they could, I don't know, build more weapons and secure oil so they can expand their businesses or something like that.
00:39:08.000 We should be focusing on securing our borders, bringing jobs back here, having strong community, building families instead.
00:39:14.000 You get the Democrats.
00:39:16.000 And it's really obvious why they want to draft women.
00:39:19.000 World War III is a coming, baby.
00:39:21.000 Ukraine is spiraling out of control.
00:39:23.000 Russia seems to be winning.
00:39:24.000 Now Russia's offering up a ceasefire because they've secured the Donbass.
00:39:27.000 And then you've got the, you know, the Red Sea is lighting up.
00:39:31.000 Iran is on the verge of lighting up.
00:39:33.000 China and Taiwan.
00:39:34.000 And the Democrats have plans to go to war.
00:39:37.000 Trump and the MAGA Republicans, you know, whatever, the populist right wing, don't want to go to war.
00:39:42.000 So they're like, we don't need this.
00:39:44.000 We don't.
00:39:45.000 But I will just point out, You can't have a society where you create classes of privileges and rights.
00:39:55.000 It doesn't work.
00:39:56.000 It's going to break down.
00:39:57.000 You cannot have social services and open borders.
00:40:00.000 You cannot tell people you can come here and get free stuff and the people who were born here, who have paid the taxes their whole lives and their family did, will now not have access to the housing market.
00:40:09.000 These things do not work.
00:40:11.000 There has to be balance in your responsibility and the rights and privileges you have access to.
00:40:16.000 I think part of it is that people look at men and women as interchangeable.
00:40:19.000 They're like a body to body, just put it in uniform and it's the same thing.
00:40:23.000 So I would imagine that these Democrats are looking at the numbers.
00:40:28.000 I'm willing to bet that when they look at combat numbers and women, female infantry, I would bet a large sum of money that a strategist comes in and says, when you get a group of men, you will see... If we've got 30 enemy combatants in this area, you will need X amount of men with this machinery to effectively control and pacify that area.
00:40:58.000 With women, you're going to need x cubed or something.
00:41:02.000 You're going to need x times x. You will need substantially more women.
00:41:08.000 The efficiency of female units of comparable numbers will be minus 30%.
00:41:13.000 And the response from Democrats is, so we need more women then.
00:41:16.000 Right?
00:41:17.000 Sending wave after wave of your own men into combat to get the job done.
00:41:20.000 More cannon fodder gets the job done.
00:41:22.000 They don't care about the human lives behind it.
00:41:24.000 All they know is, look, 100 men get the job done or 150 women.
00:41:28.000 Get more women.
00:41:28.000 Okay?
00:41:29.000 That's it.
00:41:30.000 Load it up.
00:41:31.000 And they're complaining about this recruitment shortfall is the reason why they need to do it.
00:41:35.000 Hey, look, man.
00:41:37.000 I think this is the fastest way to get Gen Z voting Republican.
00:41:42.000 I don't see how Gen Z women can stand by the Democratic Party, but apparently Democrats love women in the drift.
00:41:48.000 I do think if Trump hammers this, it's over for Biden, because the only people affected by this are Gen Z.
00:41:54.000 Literally nobody else is affected by a draft right now.
00:41:56.000 Well, Gen Z women.
00:41:58.000 But men too.
00:41:59.000 But they're already screwed.
00:42:00.000 Exactly, yeah.
00:42:01.000 But I think a lot of... If you came in and you were like, hey, let's just get rid of it entirely, or let's restrict it to we have to be under attack here at home, I think you'd get all the Gen Z men too.
00:42:08.000 Gen Z male feminists being like, but I'm fighting for your right to be drafted!
00:42:13.000 Come on, this is for you!
00:42:14.000 That's going to be Harry Sisson.
00:42:15.000 All over.
00:42:16.000 Harry and Chris, they're going to be like, no, you guys don't understand.
00:42:18.000 It's going to be great.
00:42:19.000 You're going to get all sorts of college benefits and stuff.
00:42:22.000 And they're going to die.
00:42:22.000 And they're going to be like, you're going to learn how to use guns, which we want to ban.
00:42:26.000 It's like, okay.
00:42:28.000 You get college benefits by force.
00:42:28.000 Yeah.
00:42:30.000 I would love to see both of those two drafted.
00:42:32.000 That would be very funny.
00:42:33.000 Harry's 21.
00:42:34.000 Yeah.
00:42:35.000 He's, he's first in line.
00:42:36.000 I mean, he's not literally, I think they go back 18 year olds first, but he's like right up there.
00:42:40.000 And you know, look, if Trump wins right now, Harry's good.
00:42:45.000 Mm-hmm.
00:42:46.000 If Harry is successful and Biden wins, I mean, it's, what is it, 18 to 26, I think?
00:42:51.000 25.
00:42:51.000 Are you sure it's 25?
00:42:53.000 That's what it said on the article.
00:42:54.000 I know, I think that might be wrong.
00:42:55.000 It's 26 now.
00:42:56.000 Ah, damn it, I'm in the range.
00:42:58.000 Right.
00:42:59.000 And so that means if Biden wins another term and war really does break out and the draft's coming, oh, Harry's on the front line.
00:43:07.000 And I mean it.
00:43:08.000 Now, he'll get protection, he'll get special protection, but they will absolutely force him onto the front lines.
00:43:13.000 No question.
00:43:14.000 It's gonna be like, I described Edge of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise.
00:43:17.000 He's gonna be like, but I'm just like a social media influencer guy!
00:43:20.000 And they're gonna be like, yup, and we need you to sell this.
00:43:23.000 We need young people to not flee to other countries, to not dress up like women.
00:43:28.000 Well, that doesn't work anymore.
00:43:29.000 Now they're saying, if you're a trans woman, you're still male and you're still required to be signed up for the draft.
00:43:35.000 Yeah, and it's funny, and they said if you are a female who is transgender and you are a trans man, you are still ineligible for the draft.
00:43:43.000 Interesting.
00:43:44.000 Yeah, Miller doesn't care.
00:43:45.000 They're just like, dude, if you're a dude, you're in.
00:43:47.000 We don't care what you think you are.
00:43:48.000 Is there any person born female who transitions to being male who is lobbying to be in the draft?
00:43:54.000 I would love to see that.
00:43:56.000 There are probably a few of them.
00:43:57.000 It's all Democrats that are supporting women in the draft.
00:44:00.000 Well, women have to support women, you know, right into the draft.
00:44:03.000 There are a bunch of trans men who are in the military.
00:44:06.000 Like, it happens.
00:44:07.000 And the military actually offers, I'm pretty sure this was a big controversy.
00:44:10.000 They cover a ton of gender transition stuff.
00:44:12.000 So, they're all about it.
00:44:15.000 I don't know, man, look.
00:44:17.000 We got this fractured, fragmented society.
00:44:21.000 I can't call it a country anymore, so I don't even know what's going on.
00:44:24.000 I know if it comes to it, I'm joining the Air Force.
00:44:26.000 Like, if World War III kicks off, I'm joining the Air Force, I'm going for a PR role.
00:44:30.000 I do not want to be fighting in Europe for people who would not fight for me here.
00:44:34.000 Air Force, dude.
00:44:35.000 Space Force.
00:44:37.000 Yeah, Space Force, because then you're going to be in one of the domestic military bases looking at computer screens.
00:44:43.000 Granted.
00:44:43.000 Just hang out in Colorado.
00:44:45.000 Granted, you know, for the Air Force, you know, a lot of the drone operators, it's all remote anyway, so.
00:44:50.000 It's the cushiest basic training.
00:44:52.000 It's the cushiest salaries.
00:44:54.000 I'll take it.
00:44:55.000 How old are you?
00:44:56.000 I'm 26.
00:44:57.000 Ah, you're fine.
00:44:57.000 Yeah, if it comes in the next six months, I'm screwed.
00:44:59.000 That's right.
00:45:00.000 You better just cross your fingers Trump wins.
00:45:03.000 Yeah, you're making this a hard bargain for me.
00:45:05.000 Now I'm voting for my life.
00:45:07.000 If this passes, I'm telling you right now, the next president is going to matter even more so with Russia and Cuba again.
00:45:13.000 With everything that's been destabilized around the world with the weak leadership in this Oval Office and actually part of the Uniparty that's warmongers to begin with.
00:45:21.000 This is going to matter to women of military age at that point.
00:45:24.000 This is going to matter to women who want to get married, want to settle down, become a mother, who are now potentially going to have that ripped away from them from a unit party who wants to go to war for profit.
00:45:33.000 And this is going to be a huge red wave for Trump in November to undo this.
00:45:37.000 This is exactly what's going to happen.
00:45:38.000 That's my prediction.
00:45:39.000 If this passes, Trump wins by instead of winning, he'll win the popular vote.
00:45:43.000 Not only will he win the Electoral College, he'll win the popular vote by several million votes if this passes because Gen Z women are willing to go to college, are willing to get married, are willing to become mothers.
00:45:52.000 Oh, is it going to pass?
00:45:52.000 They're not willing to go to war.
00:45:54.000 I do not see how this doesn't pass.
00:45:57.000 Mansion, maybe?
00:45:57.000 I don't know.
00:45:59.000 Well, didn't he vote for it?
00:46:00.000 In the committee?
00:46:02.000 I thought?
00:46:02.000 What, really?
00:46:03.000 Oh, you're right.
00:46:03.000 Yeah, his name's up there.
00:46:04.000 Way off!
00:46:05.000 He did, but one race is totally passing.
00:46:07.000 You know who we might get is Federman, because that man is a loose can at this point.
00:46:11.000 No one can predict what he's about to do.
00:46:12.000 No way, dude.
00:46:13.000 He's 100%.
00:46:14.000 He's gonna be like, Israel needs our support.
00:46:16.000 That's true.
00:46:17.000 Yup.
00:46:18.000 Ladies, ladies, line up!
00:46:20.000 I think the other problem, though, is like, we're gonna draft basically anyone who has a potential to save our declining fertility rate, right?
00:46:27.000 Like, we're gonna be like, we could grow the population, but we could also blow them up.
00:46:32.000 So maybe that's a good idea.
00:46:34.000 Like, I don't understand what the long-term thinking on this is at all.
00:46:37.000 You can't just keep being like, but feminism!
00:46:39.000 This is gonna force the narrative.
00:46:41.000 Are we or are we not biologically different?
00:46:43.000 This is going to force that narrative.
00:46:45.000 The feminists that have been trying to carve out women's rights for all these years are now being faced by being cancelled as women.
00:46:52.000 Whether it be sports or now being forced into the military, this is going to force the argument, are we biologically different?
00:46:58.000 Not far as rights, but far as biology.
00:47:00.000 And this is going to force that fight.
00:47:01.000 This is going to force them to answer, because he just said that they're already saying, if you're born a dude, sorry, you can't identify as a woman in the military, you're still a dude.
00:47:08.000 So, I mean, it's already forcing that narrative to come to light.
00:47:11.000 And at the end of the day, I think common sense is going to prevail, and it's going to be a red wave for Trump.
00:47:15.000 And I think we're winning our friend over over here, because I'm sorry.
00:47:19.000 When you make it about whether I live or die, yeah, I get it.
00:47:21.000 Now, hold on, hold on.
00:47:23.000 I just understand the draft doesn't stop at 26.
00:47:27.000 It's just you're first in line.
00:47:29.000 So the way it would work is they're going to go for the 18-year-olds, and it's going to be, I think how they do it is like a lottery.
00:47:34.000 They'll go by social security number and pull random numbers, and then they go up in age by requirement.
00:47:41.000 So getting to 26 would be really crazy.
00:47:44.000 I mean, if World War III happened, Okay, but here's the good news.
00:47:49.000 If you turn 27, and Biden is still president, oh, dude, line up.
00:47:55.000 27's not far off from the rest of them.
00:47:56.000 So if they go through the standard batch, and I got bad news for you, fertility rates are down, so there's not nearly as many Gen Z available as there were, say, Millennials or Boomers or Gen X. And we're hilariously out of shape.
00:48:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, but that doesn't matter.
00:48:07.000 They're gonna be like, dude, let me tell you, it was really amazing, the story of the The fall of the samurai in Japan, are you familiar with it?
00:48:15.000 Yep.
00:48:16.000 That's exactly why they don't care if you're in shape.
00:48:18.000 For those that aren't familiar...
00:48:19.000 There used to be societies used to have a warrior class that were extremely politically powerful.
00:48:24.000 And in Japan, you had samurai.
00:48:26.000 You're born, you are trained, you're a fighter.
00:48:30.000 It's really difficult for someone to be a master fighter until they invented reloadable cartridges or rifles that can be reloaded rapidly with the cartridge.
00:48:39.000 And so they show up, Western groups come to East Asia and say, who cares about these guys?
00:48:45.000 I can give you this.
00:48:46.000 And look, what does it do?
00:48:47.000 You can literally give it to a farmer and they can point it, click, and you win the war.
00:48:52.000 All of a sudden, samurai started losing all of their political power.
00:48:55.000 So Gen Z, they make all these jokes on TikTok.
00:48:58.000 They're like, we are so incapable of doing this.
00:49:00.000 We're out of shape.
00:49:01.000 We're lazy.
00:49:02.000 We hate America.
00:49:03.000 Oh, they don't care.
00:49:04.000 It's like the gulag for you, solitary confinement, or point this over there.
00:49:09.000 I think the main reason they don't want to use the draft though, Vietnam proved a disaster.
00:49:14.000 The stories of like young men landing on the shores and firing into the air instead of at the enemy because they didn't know what they were.
00:49:20.000 They were just soft.
00:49:21.000 They were cookie dough.
00:49:22.000 They couldn't handle it.
00:49:23.000 Some people went there and they were a little like too far and there were a lot of good dudes who knew what they were doing and wanted to be there.
00:49:29.000 That's why they need voluntary service.
00:49:31.000 There's an interesting thing about coercing someone to make the choice still puts in their mind they've made this choice, but you've got to do it in the right way.
00:49:41.000 Forcing someone to the draft and saying you have no choice makes them hate where they are, causes panic.
00:49:47.000 So what the U.S.
00:49:48.000 government likes to do is, using the Federal Reserve, controlling interest rates to spike the economy if they need to increase troop levels.
00:49:56.000 So when the economy gets bad, young people join up because they need money and they're desperate.
00:50:00.000 That's usually how they do it.
00:50:01.000 It's not working so much these days because I don't think we have a country.
00:50:04.000 I think it's completely shattered.
00:50:06.000 Government's gone rogue in every imaginable way.
00:50:09.000 The president is crapping his pants on stage, I think.
00:50:13.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:50:14.000 I also think people don't really – like there is a lot of anti-military sentiment in the U.S.
00:50:19.000 I think there's a level of like at one point in America's history if you had been like wanting money or this opportunity like there's something honorable about being in the military whereas now people feel like this is just something you do to be the world's police first and a lot of people hate the police already.
00:50:34.000 I can comment pretty directly on it.
00:50:36.000 I enlisted in the National Guard when I was 19, and I got medically separated four months later for anxiety and depression disorder.
00:50:42.000 Wow.
00:50:43.000 And then when I got off medication two years later, I had the opportunity to rejoin.
00:50:47.000 That was, I think, 2022?
00:50:49.000 And I had the Lore Lodge thing going, but it wasn't huge yet.
00:50:56.000 I could have gone back, and I looked around, and I was like, I want so badly To do what my ancestors did, to serve this country, to be there for my fellow man, but they're gonna send me to die in a desert.
00:51:09.000 Or they're gonna send me to die in a tundra, and it's gonna be far away from home, you know, my family will never know what happened, and what's the point?
00:51:16.000 Like, no, if we get invaded, I'll sign up.
00:51:18.000 I will, in a heartbeat.
00:51:19.000 But, you know, I gotta be honest, I made that point a while ago, like, the draft makes a lot of sense when the implication was defending this country.
00:51:29.000 You would go to the young men and say, look, they're attacking us, you do this or we all die.
00:51:34.000 I get that.
00:51:35.000 I don't know if I agree right now with Defending some of these crackpot far-left places that abuse kids and have brought in non-citizens and are releasing criminals.
00:51:44.000 It's like, if New York got invaded, I'd be like, wow, that sucks.
00:51:48.000 I mean, look, if we can get a foothold in the executive branch through Trump or someone who can deal with the corruption, send in federal investigators to New York to weed out the crime bosses that are running their government, I would be Thrilled.
00:52:06.000 I'd be happy.
00:52:07.000 I do not think national divorce is a good thing.
00:52:10.000 I do not think that peaceful national divorce is possible.
00:52:14.000 So we must avoid that in every way imaginable and resist.
00:52:18.000 And there are tons of people advocating for it, and I'm like, that ends in civil war.
00:52:22.000 So I'm curious what you guys think about this, because this is an idea I've been puttering around with for like 10 years.
00:52:27.000 Instead of a national divorce, we were taught about federalism as layer cake federalism, that there are layers of government.
00:52:32.000 You have your local, you have your state, you have your federal.
00:52:35.000 What I was wondering is, you know, what do you guys think about the idea of adding another layer?
00:52:38.000 Taking regions that are culturally similar to one another, like the Appalachians, go from Pennsylvania on down to maybe Tennessee, and then you could also do Cascadia, you could do the Rockies states, and these groups of people who are culturally rather similar would be able to have the laws that make sense for their cultural groups, and then the federal government would just be responsible for, like, the interstate, war, and diplomacy.
00:53:00.000 More government than, right?
00:53:01.000 Yeah, the problem is... A diffuse government.
00:53:04.000 But the problem is people in Oregon are at odds with themselves.
00:53:08.000 Yeah, let them switch.
00:53:09.000 To Idaho.
00:53:10.000 Well, yeah, I agree.
00:53:11.000 Let the states redraw their lines.
00:53:12.000 It's not like we're a country... We're not a bunch of different countries.
00:53:15.000 We're one country.
00:53:17.000 We can make it work.
00:53:19.000 I think the political divisions have reached critical mass.
00:53:23.000 I don't see a reality where you can go to someone who's clearly, like... Look, man.
00:53:29.000 We have probably 70 videos of Biden.
00:53:32.000 His brain is broken.
00:53:34.000 The things he has said and escalated throughout the year is getting worse and worse and worse.
00:53:39.000 And there are people who will pretend like it's not happening.
00:53:43.000 You can't work in a factory together, let alone vote functionally.
00:53:49.000 You've got someone who's going to be staring at a wall collapse or a fire raging.
00:53:55.000 You're in a warehouse, big ol' fire burst, and you say, I gotta get the fire, help me get the fire extinguisher!
00:54:01.000 It's, it's, I need your help!
00:54:02.000 And they're gonna go, there's no fire.
00:54:04.000 And you're gonna be like, dude, there's a massive fire, can we put it out right now?
00:54:06.000 No there isn't.
00:54:08.000 I will never agree with you no matter what.
00:54:09.000 And then you're like, okay.
00:54:11.000 I'm leaving.
00:54:12.000 I need to get out of this building.
00:54:13.000 Cause they will not help me.
00:54:14.000 Yeah.
00:54:15.000 I think divisions are, are really serious, and I like your idea of regional alliance ship on some level.
00:54:22.000 I think regional management and culturally more homogenous coalitions would be good.
00:54:28.000 I just think that at this point, rather than adding a layer of government, why don't we see that within our elected leaders that we have already?
00:54:35.000 What kind of partnerships do you see between regions right now?
00:54:39.000 Because potentially they could sort of make this happen on their own.
00:54:42.000 You could have coalitions in the House.
00:54:44.000 You could have governors who have a specific regional conference they attend.
00:54:48.000 They could do this.
00:54:49.000 They just opt not to right now.
00:54:51.000 The idea in my mind is that it would hopefully defeat the two-party system.
00:54:56.000 That you would get to a point where because Republicans in, you know, let's say the Republic of Appalachia, because those Republicans aren't gonna have the same priorities as Republicans in the Midwest.
00:55:09.000 It's not- the Republican party is gonna have a much more difficult time.
00:55:12.000 Because you've made everything a lot more personal, a lot more local.
00:55:15.000 For example, you know, you guys have coal, right?
00:55:17.000 A lot of coal.
00:55:18.000 We have a lot of coal.
00:55:19.000 We have a lot of oil, a lot of shale.
00:55:20.000 We also have railroads.
00:55:22.000 Pennsylvania.
00:55:22.000 Who is we?
00:55:23.000 Oh, okay.
00:55:23.000 Sorry, I should have said that.
00:55:24.000 You're- in West Virginia, you guys have a whole bunch of industries that work for you.
00:55:28.000 Same thing goes down the entire country.
00:55:30.000 Every state tends to have something that, you know, works for them.
00:55:33.000 A lot of the Appalachian states, it's the energy industry.
00:55:36.000 It's oil, it's coal, it's shale.
00:55:38.000 Those are the things that matter to us, but Pennsylvania can't make any movement on fracking, on transitioning to fourth-generation nuclear, on fixing our rail system, which is the most robust in the country, if we could just modernize it.
00:55:51.000 We can't do any of that because the government's like, sorry, people in California decided you can't frack.
00:55:56.000 Right, I agree.
00:55:57.000 This is the problem with globalization.
00:55:59.000 The idea that a singular entity can rule over every region uniformly doesn't make sense.
00:56:04.000 California gets a disproportionate amount of votes because of illegal immigrants in the first place, but then they get extra congressional seats.
00:56:09.000 They've lost one in this past census.
00:56:12.000 Then they say, the people of California don't like nuclear energy, so Nebraska can't have it.
00:56:16.000 And it's like, why is New York, Illinois, and California, and Oregon, I guess, and Washington voting that large, sparsely populated states can't have a nuclear reactor?
00:56:27.000 I mean, I'm not saying they literally can't, I'm just saying that's the general idea.
00:56:31.000 If you're in Wyoming, the population there is, what, like 500-something thousand?
00:56:35.000 They barely have a congressional seat as it is.
00:56:37.000 You've got tons of empty space where you can do a bunch of awesome stuff, but they ban these things.
00:56:41.000 And, right, like fracking and stuff, they pass these laws controlling all of it, but they don't even live in these places.
00:56:46.000 It should be left to the states, but the federal government keeps... This is the problem with large federal government.
00:56:51.000 And with fracking specifically, like, that's such a local problem.
00:56:54.000 Like, if a community says, alright, we're gonna take the risk, we're gonna try and make sure we have all the safety in place, and we wanna frack here, there is no reason that people in Shale Country PA need to listen to what people in Los Angeles think about that.
00:57:06.000 The people in Los Angeles will never be affected by somebody fracking in Carbon County, Pennsylvania.
00:57:12.000 It will never happen.
00:57:13.000 So why do they care?
00:57:14.000 I think, you know, I was thinking about it.
00:57:16.000 Pennsylvania, you guys got cheesesteak.
00:57:18.000 Do they got cheesesteak in western PA?
00:57:20.000 Uh, yeah, the sandwiches change a little bit.
00:57:23.000 Primanti's is kind of the, they got a different format over there.
00:57:25.000 West Virginia has deep fried dandelions.
00:57:28.000 What?
00:57:28.000 Yeah.
00:57:29.000 That's true.
00:57:29.000 Yeah, I've tried it.
00:57:30.000 It's pretty good.
00:57:30.000 Is it good?
00:57:33.000 I know it exists.
00:57:34.000 It's like an old Appalachian recipe.
00:57:36.000 I've never seen it.
00:57:37.000 How common is it?
00:57:38.000 You won't see it in any of the retail restaurants like at Permanee's, but some of your mom-and-pops, you can get in some of the smaller towns.
00:57:43.000 It's actually quite common.
00:57:44.000 It's pretty good.
00:57:45.000 Yeah, so, uh... Just like dough on a dandelion?
00:57:49.000 Dandelion fried?
00:57:50.000 Yep.
00:57:51.000 I heard it tastes like fried mushrooms.
00:57:53.000 It does?
00:57:53.000 Yeah, look at that.
00:57:54.000 So dandelions are actually brought here by the European colonists as food and medicine.
00:57:59.000 Really?
00:57:59.000 Yep.
00:58:00.000 It grows crazy fast, and you can eat them.
00:58:03.000 And they're all over the place.
00:58:05.000 Tradition remains up in Appalachia.
00:58:07.000 So, you know, you got different conventions and customs.
00:58:09.000 See, you're from PA, you had no idea.
00:58:11.000 And of course, Chris over here has never heard of a cheesesteak.
00:58:13.000 Of course I have.
00:58:15.000 Oh boy.
00:58:16.000 I was down in San Antonio last week for Unsubscribe Podcast, and they had some cheesesteaks on the menu, and I was like, I'm not going anywhere near this.
00:58:22.000 That's how I feel about pizza outside of the Northeast.
00:58:24.000 Yeah, I don't any outside of 50 miles of Pennsylvania unless it's like the person running it grew up in South Philly.
00:58:30.000 No.
00:58:31.000 I can respect that people in New York and the Northeast think their pizza is better.
00:58:36.000 Now don't do this to me, Tim.
00:58:37.000 Don't do this.
00:58:37.000 Don't do this, Tim.
00:58:38.000 What?
00:58:39.000 But Chicago!
00:58:42.000 Yes, being from Chicago, we have, and I'm respecting New York over here and you guys can't handle it, I would just call Chicago pizza different.
00:58:50.000 Yes, it is different.
00:58:52.000 However, deep dish pizza is not real Chicago pizza, that's a lie, and you guys have not ever had real Chicago style pizza, which is a firmer, medium, it's not a thin crust, it's thicker, it's not floppy.
00:59:05.000 It's square cut.
00:59:07.000 I think people call it like, what is it called?
00:59:09.000 Like the four states?
00:59:09.000 It's called Sicilian over here.
00:59:10.000 That's not Sicilian.
00:59:12.000 No, we're not talking about Sicilian.
00:59:13.000 Is it more like what they do in St.
00:59:14.000 Sicilian is a thick bread.
00:59:14.000 Louis?
00:59:15.000 Is it more like what they do in St.
00:59:16.000 Louis?
00:59:16.000 I don't know.
00:59:17.000 St.
00:59:17.000 Louis has a specific style of pizza.
00:59:18.000 Traditional Chicago pizza is flat, the dough doesn't rise on the ends, the crust on the edge is crunchy, and it's cut into squares.
00:59:30.000 And so it's very different from New York.
00:59:31.000 But I will tell you this, I had pizza in Michigan and it was like someone put a bathroom garbage on my plate and I was offended.
00:59:39.000 It was like a piece of toast with ragu on it.
00:59:43.000 Don't you dare.
00:59:43.000 Some places pizzas are different.
00:59:45.000 I mean, this is I've talked about this before, but the Domino's and Pizza Hut spread throughout the middle part of America because the immigrants weren't there making traditional pizza.
00:59:54.000 I can't I can imagine that in, you know, Michigan, they do a lot of other nice stuff, but this is not one of their elements.
00:59:59.000 It reminds me, though, like the stereotyping of deep dish pizza as the only type of pizza of the pepperoni roll in West Virginia, because you're like, what is the food of West Virginia?
01:00:07.000 You see that everywhere.
01:00:08.000 But there's actually a ton of stuff.
01:00:09.000 It's just that sort of what the like, don't knock the pepperoni roll.
01:00:13.000 It's great, but it's not the only thing.
01:00:13.000 Adrienne Curry.
01:00:15.000 Adrienne Curry knows exactly what we're talking about.
01:00:17.000 Chicago Thin Crust Tavern Style Pizza is great too.
01:00:21.000 I'll give it a shot.
01:00:22.000 I'll give it a shot for you.
01:00:23.000 And I gotta tell you, for anybody who's never been, if you go there, you gotta find a place that will do a pizza with giardiniera on it.
01:00:29.000 Giardiniera, that's the word.
01:00:31.000 It was so weird for me when I went to New York for the first time, and I tried ordering a roast beef sandwich with giardiniera, and the guy said, with what?
01:00:38.000 And I said, can I get a roast beef sub with giardiniera?
01:00:40.000 And he goes, he's like, we do heroes.
01:00:44.000 And I'm like, I don't know what that means.
01:00:45.000 It's a, it's a long sandwich.
01:00:46.000 And I'm like, oh, okay, well give me giardiniera, roast beef and cheddar.
01:00:49.000 And he's like, I don't know what that word is.
01:00:51.000 Oh man.
01:00:54.000 I feel like I've heard the word, but I don't know what it is.
01:00:58.000 It is like carrots, jalapenos, cauliflower in oil.
01:01:02.000 Oh, okay.
01:01:03.000 I've had it.
01:01:03.000 I just didn't know it's what it was called.
01:01:04.000 If you go to Potbelly's, they call it hot peppers because nobody knows what it is.
01:01:07.000 How about we go back to talking about the news?
01:01:09.000 Here's a story from the post-millennial.
01:01:12.000 A Canadian study worries about under-anticipated U.S.
01:01:15.000 civil war, ignores growing resentment at home.
01:01:18.000 The potential for civil war is mentioned in the list of eight under-anticipated disruptions that decision-makers may need to consider more thoroughly than the survey results indicate.
01:01:27.000 Ladies and gentlemen, foreign countries—okay, fine, it's Canada, so, you know, take it for what it is—are concerned about a U.S.
01:01:36.000 civil war.
01:01:37.000 If you dig deep into the subterranean internet files of the Canadian government, you might find a link to Policy Horizons Canada, a group that you might surmise is attached to Global Affairs Canada, but no, it is affiliated with the Federal Public Service.
01:01:48.000 I'm going to wag my finger at David in the Postmillennial for writing a narrative story.
01:01:52.000 Just tell me the news.
01:01:53.000 The posting of a recent study titled Disruptions on the Horizon might have been missed by the public had an article not been posted to Politico declaring Canada's big worry a U.S.
01:02:02.000 civil war.
01:02:03.000 Considering you guys are writing me a story, I'm actually going to go to Politico instead.
01:02:06.000 Canada's big worry, a U.S.
01:02:08.000 civil war.
01:02:09.000 This is from just a few days ago.
01:02:11.000 They say, and they also write a narrative, in a spring report titled Disruptions on the Horizon, a
01:02:16.000 quiet office known as Policy Horizons Canada proposed American Civil War as a scenario that
01:02:20.000 Ottawa should consider preparing for.
01:02:23.000 This hypothetical was tucked into the middle of a 37-page document,
01:02:26.000 which sketched the possibility in 15 spare words.
01:02:29.000 U.S. ideological divisions, democratic erosion, and domestic unrest escalate,
01:02:34.000 plunging the country into civil war.
01:02:37.000 You know, Canada.
01:02:39.000 They must watch the show.
01:02:41.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, if they're saying it's under-prepared for it, I don't know if we've got our viewership in Canada going.
01:02:47.000 I think that this is ridiculous.
01:02:48.000 No, I'm saying whoever wrote this must watch it.
01:02:50.000 Sure, but Post Millennial is saying it's under-anticipated.
01:02:54.000 I don't think it's true here on Timcast.
01:02:56.000 You know, so I just want to point this out.
01:02:57.000 Considering everyone says that I'm the guy who's always talking about civil war, that means anyone else who ever talks about it is a fan of the show.
01:03:04.000 That's a fair point.
01:03:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:03:06.000 That's the only explanation.
01:03:08.000 So, considering Canada has this concern, they're going to say, how seriously should people take this on the other side of the 49th parallel?
01:03:15.000 Policy Horizon's report surveyed hundreds of experts and government officials about disruptive events that Canada might do well to prepare for.
01:03:21.000 Then the authors classed those scenarios based on the likelihood they will occur.
01:03:24.000 American Civil War ranked as an improbable but ultra-high impact event.
01:03:30.000 Other scenarios in that general category included the proliferation of homemade biological weapons, the rise of antibiotic-resistant pathogens leading to mass death and food shortages, and the outbreak of World War III.
01:03:41.000 You know, I suppose when you add them all together, it's looking like you got a really good probability of bad thing happening.
01:03:49.000 So take your pick, and I hope you all are prepared.
01:03:52.000 I think it's weird that progressive governments and progressive political parties have to fearmonger their voters into supporting them.
01:03:59.000 I think that's what I see over and over again.
01:04:01.000 I was thinking about that with some of the speeches I was listening to from Biden or, you know, on the campaign trail.
01:04:05.000 And it's always just, you have to vote for us because everything's about to fall apart and we are the only ones who can fix it.
01:04:10.000 And it's critical.
01:04:11.000 In fact, it's so critical it might even be too late.
01:04:13.000 So you got to act now.
01:04:14.000 Like, it's like the craziest sales pitch of all time that is completely dependent on fear and compliance.
01:04:20.000 Because they can only run on fear and compliance because they don't have any success stories to build upon.
01:04:24.000 I mean, you know, to your point, Joe Biden, what could he run on in re-election other than, you know, Trump's a threat to democracy.
01:04:31.000 Vote for me to stop him.
01:04:32.000 I mean, that's all they got.
01:04:33.000 He's accomplished nothing.
01:04:34.000 You know, hyperinflation, destabilization of the world, entering World War III with, you know, Russia and Cuba with their naval fleet now.
01:04:40.000 There's nothing he can tout that he did other than destabilize the world and cause inflation and, you know, cause a lot of people to leave the workforce because they couldn't even afford to live anymore.
01:04:49.000 And you know, they paid him to stay home, they paid him not to work, and then they can't afford to go back to work anymore.
01:04:54.000 It's just sad to see all this going on.
01:04:56.000 And he can't do anything but say, vote for me because the other guy's the boogeyman.
01:05:00.000 That's all they have.
01:05:01.000 Yeah.
01:05:02.000 You know, rather it be Trudeau, rather it be Biden, it's all the radical left has.
01:05:05.000 Vote for me to stop the boogeyman.
01:05:07.000 Yeah.
01:05:08.000 It makes you wonder, when Trump is no longer eligible to run for office, if he serves a term and runs out of terms, what will they talk about?
01:05:16.000 Where's the off-ramp?
01:05:16.000 That's what, you know, Phil often says, Phil LaBonte, he says, where's the off-ramp?
01:05:20.000 Of all that remains?
01:05:21.000 Of all that remains.
01:05:22.000 Where's the off-ramp?
01:05:23.000 With the ideological divisions happening in this country, with this election bubbling up, they're trying to put Trump in prison.
01:05:29.000 Trump may very well end up in prison in only a matter of weeks.
01:05:33.000 Where's the offering?
01:05:34.000 How does this country not devolve into, at the very least, starting off with collapse of the federal government?
01:05:45.000 I mean, if it did collapse, we could just go back to state governments, I guess.
01:05:48.000 I see that.
01:05:51.000 If something were to happen, I would imagine that the likeliest scenario, come November, dispute over the election.
01:05:59.000 Both sides claiming they won.
01:06:01.000 Happened in 2020.
01:06:03.000 Both sides claim they won, and neither side will be willing to accept at any degree.
01:06:09.000 I don't think people understand how wild 2020 was.
01:06:13.000 I think the average person just ignored it.
01:06:15.000 They watched the news, and they heard Trump claiming he won, and they said, I don't know what's going on.
01:06:18.000 Biden won.
01:06:19.000 But what they didn't see was, say, like, Texas v. Pennsylvania.
01:06:22.000 I believe it was 48 states involved in a lawsuit to the Supreme Court over unconstitutional actions taken by Pennsylvania and several other states that went for Joe Biden.
01:06:33.000 Notably, that they changed their election rules outside of the legislative body, which violates the Constitution as to how elections are held.
01:06:41.000 The Supreme Court refused to acknowledge it.
01:06:44.000 And what did we get?
01:06:45.000 Well, I don't know.
01:06:46.000 Trump supporters on January 6th, I don't think it was the apocalypse.
01:06:51.000 It was a riot.
01:06:52.000 These people didn't actually plan for anything beyond walking in a building, and I don't think they even planned... I don't think they planned for walking in a building at all.
01:06:58.000 Seems like most of them didn't.
01:07:00.000 Yeah, they walked in a building and walked out.
01:07:01.000 Nothing happened.
01:07:03.000 Politicians got scared.
01:07:04.000 There was a lot of damage.
01:07:04.000 It was bad.
01:07:05.000 I don't like any of it.
01:07:07.000 I don't see, this time around, a de-escalation.
01:07:11.000 If something were to happen, The federal government already, we know, that this guy from the DOJ goes and joins the local DA's office in New York and prosecutes Trump and is now trying to put him in prison.
01:07:24.000 I don't think people are going to tolerate this.
01:07:26.000 If we get a fracturing of confidence in the federal government to a certain degree where, let's say Texas files a lawsuit again this time, which seems very likely, the Supreme Court refuses to hear it, so then Texas says, we will not do this a second time.
01:07:40.000 These are clear violations of the U.S.
01:07:42.000 Constitution, and if the Constitution is not being upheld by the Supreme Court, then it is void.
01:07:47.000 I don't know how—if they get to that point immediately, I think it could take months where they're petitioning and petitioning and petitioning and saying, how many times do we have to demand that the rules are actually upheld, that we agreed upon?
01:07:59.000 And if you will not agree to these rules, you are telling me that you avoid the Constitution.
01:08:04.000 So if Texas then says, we are not going to cooperate with the federal authorities because they have not cooperated with us, they have broken the mutual pact, A lot of people are going, oh, national divorce, oh, it sounds good.
01:08:16.000 And then what happens when resource battles begin?
01:08:18.000 Then what happens when one state needs access to another state's, or there's a shared body of water or river?
01:08:25.000 Then you start getting disruptions.
01:08:27.000 If that happens, any kind of national divorce scenario results in a civil war in the long run.
01:08:34.000 Not immediately, but in the long run.
01:08:36.000 I don't see a reasonable probability that, let's say Donald Trump wins.
01:08:42.000 And Democrats just go, well, shucks.
01:08:45.000 You got us, Trump.
01:08:46.000 It was a good run.
01:08:47.000 We tried our hardest, but we hereby accept the results.
01:08:50.000 Never gonna happen.
01:08:51.000 They didn't do that in 2016.
01:08:52.000 They ain't gonna do it now.
01:08:54.000 The inverse is true.
01:08:55.000 Joe Biden wins.
01:08:56.000 Ain't gonna see Trump supporters saying, you win.
01:08:59.000 So I don't know exactly what happens, but I don't think that Canada is wrong.
01:09:04.000 And I do think when they say it's an improbable event, it's because Too many people are scared to suggest things that seem dramatic.
01:09:15.000 But I don't see an off-ramp.
01:09:17.000 Well, I mean, you're completely right looking at the series of events and suggesting that it's not going to happen immediately, because that's what happened with the revolution, that's what happened with the Civil War.
01:09:25.000 I do have to say, whatever the next president is, or the one after that, if the Civil War happens in the next eight years, I'm going to be so mad that a Pennsylvanian president was responsible for both of them.
01:09:39.000 I look back at the American Revolution and the Civil War and what led to them and it wasn't Bunker Hill, it wasn't Lexington and Concord, it wasn't Fort Sumter, it was a decade of the people of America, of the colonies saying, hey guys, can we like Rule ourselves?
01:09:56.000 Can we do that?
01:09:56.000 Is that an option?
01:09:58.000 We have all these problems.
01:09:59.000 You guys are levying taxes on us.
01:10:01.000 We didn't ask you to come fight the French here.
01:10:02.000 That wasn't our idea.
01:10:04.000 And now you're demanding we pay for your war.
01:10:06.000 What's going on?
01:10:07.000 And also, you promised us land west of the Appalachians.
01:10:09.000 What happened to that?
01:10:10.000 And so, Americans went...
01:10:12.000 I'm done.
01:10:12.000 If you're not going to listen, I'm done.
01:10:14.000 That's actually slightly incorrect.
01:10:16.000 What happened was a year of the regulars massacring, killing Americans.
01:10:20.000 Well, that too.
01:10:21.000 Then they said, okay, well, they've been killing us for a year.
01:10:24.000 I think we should probably tell them to screw off.
01:10:26.000 Very important point I bring up 50 billion times for everybody who's ever watched this show.
01:10:30.000 You've heard it already.
01:10:32.000 The Declaration of Independence was signed one year and one month after the war already started.
01:10:36.000 The Founding Fathers weren't stacking bodies because they were mad.
01:10:38.000 They were resisting every step of the way.
01:10:42.000 making turning this into an independent like actually signing a declaration of
01:10:45.000 independence. It was only after the crown was steadfast in sending troops to kill
01:10:50.000 Americans and the Americans were writing letters that finally the founding
01:10:54.000 fathers got together and said guys we this is not gonna end we have no choice.
01:10:58.000 They had blockaded Boston, New York didn't sign the Declaration of
01:11:01.000 Independence because it was so controlled by the British.
01:11:03.000 Yep the funny thing too is depending on what you read there's interesting
01:11:08.000 stories about how some of the founding fathers it was contested they even had
01:11:12.000 the right to represent the states that they had come from and voted for
01:11:16.000 independence or signing the Declaration of Independence.
01:11:18.000 People were like, you don't speak for us.
01:11:19.000 There were a lot of Loyalists.
01:11:21.000 There was a Declaration of Dependence.
01:11:23.000 People don't know this.
01:11:24.000 No joke.
01:11:25.000 A group of Loyalists wrote a letter saying like, dude, legit, we do not want to do this.
01:11:29.000 We like the crown.
01:11:31.000 Where we are now, It's, yeah, I mean what, ten years?
01:11:35.000 We've, coming off of 2008, with the financial crisis, and the outrage over the big banks, the Federal Reserve, this corrupt, broken system, the mass printing of money, and foreign war without declaration.
01:11:45.000 The 2000s were bad.
01:11:47.000 We're going on two decades of mass general grievance that has gone unanswered.
01:11:53.000 Occupy Wall Street was protesting because of Obama.
01:11:56.000 No answer.
01:11:57.000 Well, maybe there was, Donald Trump.
01:12:00.000 Occupy Wall Street, end of 2011, into 2012.
01:12:04.000 Obama's president, and he ends up winning.
01:12:08.000 People were still upset.
01:12:10.000 Things did not change.
01:12:11.000 The protests continued.
01:12:13.000 Wars expanded.
01:12:14.000 And then you get a Donald Trump with 9 million Obama voters switching to the Republican Party.
01:12:20.000 They destroyed Donald Trump.
01:12:22.000 They cemented his feet and threw him in the ocean.
01:12:24.000 They weighed him down so he could not do his job.
01:12:26.000 They accused him of being a traitor to this country.
01:12:30.000 They said he was a Russian spy.
01:12:32.000 All of it fabricated.
01:12:33.000 Then in 2020, Biden wins.
01:12:36.000 However you want to describe how he won, I'm saying he won.
01:12:39.000 He's in the White House.
01:12:40.000 Call it whatever you want.
01:12:40.000 You can say Trump convinced more people, you can say whatever you want, but Biden ended up in the White House.
01:12:45.000 People have tolerated it so far.
01:12:48.000 I am very concerned and I agree with the Canadians here.
01:12:51.000 And I think the mistake they make too.
01:12:53.000 They always do this.
01:12:54.000 More than a literal concern about an 1861-style war between the states.
01:12:57.000 Who said anything about a war between states?
01:12:59.000 That doesn't make any sense.
01:13:01.000 What likely is going to happen is the federal government collapses.
01:13:04.000 It'll exist, they'll assert authority, and nobody will listen.
01:13:07.000 Texas doesn't need to go to war with, I don't know, California or Oregon.
01:13:11.000 They're gonna say, I don't care about you.
01:13:13.000 Local, regional areas might get into conflicts, though.
01:13:15.000 I think you'd see rural versus city more than state versus state, if anything.
01:13:21.000 I agree, but I do think the cities would be occupied in two seconds.
01:13:24.000 Oh yeah, definitely.
01:13:25.000 No question.
01:13:26.000 The cities would probably fall apart, actually.
01:13:28.000 The first thing that would likely happen is rural areas would cease major deliveries to strong urban areas.
01:13:34.000 Like, New York is screwed.
01:13:35.000 It would take nothing.
01:13:36.000 It would just be a few blockades of the interstate by rural populations, and New York would starve.
01:13:41.000 And it's not even a wartime blockade.
01:13:44.000 It would be like...
01:13:46.000 When you got a small town, everybody's seen a speed trap, right?
01:13:49.000 That state highway that goes through a small town where the speed limit goes from 55 to 20, like that, and it's because there's a small town there.
01:13:56.000 They call them speed traps, sometimes they are, but the small town says, we've got houses along this road because it was built as a supply, like people, it's like an outpost almost, don't speed through our town, you're gonna hit our kids.
01:14:08.000 Those towns, put up a checkpoint.
01:14:10.000 A single county sheriff could slow down deliveries to New York City.
01:14:14.000 A single county sheriff Puts up a checkpoint in his county in a small town.
01:14:19.000 Trucks come by and he says, we are no longer getting support for these roads.
01:14:24.000 If you want to drive through here, it's a fee of $50 for every truck because we gotta pay this.
01:14:29.000 And it's very difficult to source the materials to fix this when we're seeing trade break down.
01:14:33.000 And the truckers say, there's no way I'm doing that.
01:14:35.000 Well, do you remember how effective the Canadian trucker blockade was?
01:14:39.000 And one of the effects was, like, we are not getting our deliveries on time, right?
01:14:43.000 So if a small town trucker was like, I'm not doing this, and a point of entry to a city was like, we are also not participating, or we're blocking this off, like, it all falls apart.
01:14:52.000 It's a fragile, codependent system that gets, you know, food, supplies, whatever, to especially major cities, but from regions across the country to these major cities.
01:15:01.000 The urban populations tend to forget that they rely on the rural population for raw materials, and the rural population relies on them for finished goods.
01:15:10.000 The rural population doesn't need them for finished goods.
01:15:12.000 The urban population needs them for raw materials.
01:15:16.000 Let's jump to this segment, which is somewhat related.
01:15:18.000 This is a CNN segment.
01:15:20.000 Kyle Becker tweets, CNN gets absolutely owned trying to school Trump supporters that America is a democracy and not a republic.
01:15:27.000 This is really interesting.
01:15:28.000 It's a bit long, so we'll only play a little bit of it.
01:15:30.000 President Biden touts his re-election campaign as a fight to preserve democracy.
01:15:35.000 But if you ask some Trump supporters, the former president is not a threat to democracy because the United States is not a democracy.
01:15:42.000 I'm just going to pause real quick and say, everybody knows this, but we are not a democracy.
01:15:46.000 We are a constitutional republic with democratically elected representatives.
01:15:49.000 What that means is you send someone you think will do a good job to do the job because you're not an expert.
01:15:54.000 Democracy is when everybody votes on a thing, and then if they get the majority, it happens.
01:15:59.000 CNN's Donny O'Sullivan spoke to some of those supporters.
01:16:03.000 What happens if Trump loses?
01:16:06.000 I don't see him losing.
01:16:07.000 I don't think he lost the last election, to be honest.
01:16:10.000 Do you think he's going to win?
01:16:11.000 Yes.
01:16:12.000 Without a doubt.
01:16:12.000 No doubt.
01:16:13.000 What if he doesn't this time?
01:16:14.000 What happens to the country?
01:16:15.000 We're in trouble.
01:16:16.000 We're in big trouble.
01:16:18.000 We're done.
01:16:18.000 If Biden talks about democracy, you know, saving democracy, they're the ones that are killing democracy.
01:16:24.000 Obviously, there's a lot of criticisms of Trump that he is bad for democracy, that he's bad for American democracy.
01:16:32.000 Can I say something?
01:16:33.000 We are a republic.
01:16:33.000 We're a republic.
01:16:34.000 We are not a democracy.
01:16:35.000 We're a representative republic.
01:16:36.000 We're not a democracy.
01:16:38.000 One thing we've been hearing at Trump rallies like this over the past few months is that America isn't really a democracy.
01:16:45.000 America isn't really a democracy.
01:16:47.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:16:48.000 They're not saying it's not really a democracy.
01:16:50.000 They're saying it's quite literally not a democracy.
01:16:53.000 It's not a democracy as a republic.
01:16:55.000 It's not a democracy.
01:16:57.000 Okay, democracy is actually not as good as you think it is.
01:17:01.000 But for centuries, America has celebrated its democracy.
01:17:05.000 Democracy is worth dying for.
01:17:07.000 Democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy.
01:17:11.000 But some Republicans and pro-Trump media are pushing the idea that America is not a democracy.
01:17:17.000 The United States of America is not a democracy.
01:17:19.000 We are a constitutional republic.
01:17:21.000 The United States of America is not a democracy.
01:17:23.000 You don't want to be in a democracy.
01:17:24.000 We are not a democracy.
01:17:26.000 He didn't read the full quote there, but a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what's for lunch.
01:17:30.000 A republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
01:17:34.000 We are a republic.
01:17:35.000 Is America a democracy?
01:17:37.000 America is a democracy.
01:17:39.000 It was founded as a democracy.
01:17:41.000 I've heard a lot of conspiracy theories.
01:17:42.000 I hear a lot of things out on the road.
01:17:45.000 Does he come from the democracy of Ireland?
01:17:47.000 And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, and if we want to go back to the roots of the country, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
01:17:55.000 We add the undergod later.
01:17:56.000 Yeah.
01:17:56.000 But to hear Americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots, say that America is not a democracy, that stopped me in my tracks.
01:18:06.000 You are hearing people say America is not a democracy because there are people around Trump who want them to be saying that, who've been planting that narrative.
01:18:16.000 Is America a democracy?
01:18:17.000 My APU is history, teacher.
01:18:19.000 I think we're a republic.
01:18:22.000 What's the difference?
01:18:24.000 I feel like democracy... Oh boy.
01:18:32.000 It's government control.
01:18:34.000 I don't see freedom in democracy.
01:18:35.000 I see freedom... You don't need to do this, CNN.
01:18:39.000 There are much, much more well-informed people and finding some random Trump supporters.
01:18:44.000 I get it.
01:18:45.000 But you know what?
01:18:45.000 A lot of people do this.
01:18:46.000 They go to Times Square.
01:18:47.000 They go to Democrat rallies.
01:18:48.000 Yes.
01:18:49.000 A republic is like...
01:18:51.000 You have a collection of jurisdictions that have formed a cooperative government with each other.
01:18:55.000 In this instance, you have states which have formed a federal government which is to serve them, and that is the Republic of the United States of America.
01:19:02.000 A democracy would be a single body where the people vote on things, and there can be different structures of that democracy.
01:19:08.000 That's true.
01:19:09.000 But there's direct democracy, and democracy typically involves the will of the masses.
01:19:14.000 And we do have referendums in some states, but the United States is a republic, and that's why states each get two senators to represent the state.
01:19:22.000 You know what's kind of funny about it, too, is, like, the Athenians tried democracy, and then the Romans looked at the Athenians and went, absolutely not.
01:19:31.000 Not doing that.
01:19:32.000 Doing something completely different.
01:19:34.000 We're gonna take the simple part of that, and then we're gonna make it way more complicated and better.
01:19:37.000 It took, like, one generation for people to realize democracy's not a good idea at the international scale.
01:19:45.000 I say we repeal the 17th Amendment and eliminate popular vote for federal senators, because the original idea was your local representatives would choose who your senators are going to be that go to the federal government.
01:20:03.000 And the idea was better men would be chosen.
01:20:06.000 The state will be represented by people who were chosen for the job.
01:20:10.000 And the argument was, I believe this was like the beginning of the 1900s, end of the 1800s, too many people were getting their buddies in and it was corrupt, so we should turn it into a popular vote of the state.
01:20:20.000 The states will vote for who they think should represent their state.
01:20:23.000 That's pointless.
01:20:24.000 That's what Congress does.
01:20:26.000 Congress represents the will of the people.
01:20:28.000 The state's interests are the state's interests.
01:20:30.000 And this severed the average voter from their local representatives.
01:20:34.000 And now, people seem to think that your federal congressman's gonna clean up your state.
01:20:38.000 Not gonna happen.
01:20:39.000 They might, however, get federal funding for you.
01:20:41.000 Let's play a little bit more.
01:20:43.000 Honestly, the word democracy and the word republic have often been used interchangeably.
01:20:48.000 There isn't a meaningful difference between them.
01:20:51.000 So much of the warnings and criticism about Trump is that he is a threat to democracy, that he is anti-democratic.
01:20:59.000 Absolutely.
01:20:59.000 If they can convince people that we don't have a democracy, then it's okay that Trump is attacking democracy because it doesn't really matter.
01:21:07.000 So why has democracy become a bad word?
01:21:10.000 Because it's being used in a way to change the flavor of our country, which is a republic.
01:21:18.000 These words were used in different ways in the 18th century, and it's true, the found... Oh, man.
01:21:23.000 Words don't mean anything, and I make them up as I go along!
01:21:27.000 They were used interchangeably in the 18th century, that's why Benjamin Franklin went out of his way to make a point about the difference.
01:21:31.000 Right, okay, great, yeah, wonderful.
01:21:33.000 I'd like to give a...
01:21:34.000 Really simple explanation of the difference between a democracy and a republic.
01:21:37.000 A republic is Rhode Island has like a city and they get two senators.
01:21:43.000 California has very many and they have two senators because they are equally represented as state bodies in a republic system.
01:21:50.000 Now a democracy would strip those senators away and you would vote purely by population.
01:21:56.000 What happens in places like this, California is a great example, I love bringing this up, When I went to meet the farmers during the drought, they were not allowed to use the surface water for their crops because of democracy.
01:22:08.000 Because the way the vote worked on surface water was, the millions of people who live in cities say, we vote to get the water.
01:22:15.000 And the people who live in the farmland in the rural area said, we vote to keep the water.
01:22:17.000 And they went, unfortunately for you, you're 10% of the population.
01:22:20.000 We are 90.
01:22:21.000 Majority rules.
01:22:21.000 Welcome democracy.
01:22:23.000 So they took the water away from the farmers.
01:22:25.000 In a republic, California cannot outvote Rhode Island's interests.
01:22:30.000 They have to go to the federal government and compromise, and it is rather difficult.
01:22:36.000 They have to negotiate with other states.
01:22:39.000 If we went full democracy, California, New York, and Illinois would form a compact and say, let's just cut deals with each other and we own the country.
01:22:48.000 And then it doesn't matter where you live.
01:22:49.000 If you're outside of those places, you don't have the population.
01:22:52.000 And it would be basically major urban centers, and they would be in total control of everything everyone else does.
01:22:57.000 We still have an element of that.
01:22:59.000 Because you still have Congress.
01:23:01.000 But these people, I absolutely love how evil CNN is.
01:23:05.000 Because I know for a fact, the people who put this together, they know, they've done a Google search.
01:23:09.000 They Google searches, they know what they're saying is a lie.
01:23:12.000 They know they brought on someone to do an interview who is lying.
01:23:15.000 Because they think people are stupid.
01:23:17.000 They think the people who watch CNN are stupid.
01:23:19.000 And unfortunately, I have to agree, people who watch CNN are stupid.
01:23:23.000 No, I agree.
01:23:23.000 And you know, for them to say, oh, this is just a narrative that Trump has planted with people around his rallies.
01:23:28.000 Well, it must be amazing that Trump has a time machine.
01:23:30.000 And he went back and got in Ben Franklin's ear when a lady asked him when he was coming out of a meeting that what kind of government we have.
01:23:35.000 And he said, a republic, if you can keep it.
01:23:37.000 So it's just amazing that Trump must have went back in time and changed Ben Franklin's mind as well.
01:23:41.000 He is a time traveler.
01:23:42.000 If this country was founded as a democracy, first of all, that's impossible.
01:23:48.000 If New York went to Georgia and said, this will be a democracy, we will vote by popular vote, they'd be like, what?
01:23:55.000 You'll take our stuff from us?
01:23:57.000 Absolutely not.
01:23:58.000 Not gonna happen.
01:23:59.000 In fact, so the first attempt at government was the Confederacy, the Confederate States of America, and then, or the Articles on Confederation, I should say, not the Confederacy.
01:24:08.000 People knew what you were saying.
01:24:09.000 Right.
01:24:10.000 It was the Articles of Confederation.
01:24:11.000 And it didn't work.
01:24:11.000 It was too weak.
01:24:12.000 And so they said, we want to create a stronger federal government.
01:24:16.000 And then I believe it was the anti-federalists wanted the Bill of Rights.
01:24:22.000 They said, we want you to write down a guarantee you will not do these things to us.
01:24:27.000 So the Constitution instantly got the Bill of Rights, of which I believe originally there were 17.
01:24:31.000 And they narrowed it down because they were like, we don't need seven of these.
01:24:34.000 They're just obvious within the document.
01:24:36.000 And then 200 years later, The people did not agree with that.
01:24:41.000 Well, they combined many of them and changed the language on some of them.
01:24:45.000 They screwed up the Second Amendment, miserably.
01:24:47.000 And the original first article was congressional, I believe it was congressional pay.
01:24:53.000 The first and second were congressional pay and apportionment.
01:24:56.000 Well, one of my favorite things about the Second Amendment is that everybody's like, oh, well, no, it means, you know, militia and the, you know, it's all very, you're not understanding.
01:25:04.000 It's not the unlimited right to bear arms.
01:25:06.000 Alexander Hamilton ...didn't even think they needed it, because he thought it was so obvious, so clear, in the articles describing what Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court are allowed to do, that they had no power to regulate firearms.
01:25:20.000 So Hamilton was like, I don't think we need this.
01:25:23.000 I do not think this needs to go in there.
01:25:24.000 And they ended up putting it in.
01:25:25.000 Because they were like, eh, well...
01:25:27.000 Do you think he deserves the musical now, or?
01:25:31.000 See, here's the thing.
01:25:32.000 Got Second Amendment, right?
01:25:36.000 He was very pro-gun, but at the same time, also pro-central banking.
01:25:41.000 Nobody's perfect, that's what I've learned from this conversation.
01:25:44.000 The original Second Amendment actually went on to say that, and the gist of it was, You can have a gun even outside of the military.
01:25:54.000 But the issue was, they were concerned that it would actually stop conscription.
01:26:00.000 So it said something like, even if someone is an objector to war, they still have a right to keep and bear arms.
01:26:05.000 The concern was, if we say, the militia being required for a free state, the right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed, the implication is, everyone can have guns because they're going to be conscripted to militia or military.
01:26:19.000 And they were like, well, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:26:21.000 Then we'll add, even if you object to conscription, you can still have a gun too.
01:26:27.000 And then they went, ooh, but that might be used to make it so we can't conscript people in time of war.
01:26:31.000 Take that out.
01:26:32.000 We're good.
01:26:33.000 And most people don't realize this, but if you look at the map of gun rights, we had
01:26:38.000 a long period of no gun rights.
01:26:40.000 If you look at whether states issued permits, I mean, it wasn't until DC versus Heller where they said, you can actually have a gun outside your house.
01:26:48.000 So there were a lot of states that were May issue states, you'd apply for a gun, they'd say, no, you can't have one.
01:26:55.000 And then one by one over the past, you know, 10 years, 20 years, we have seen states go constitutional carry.
01:27:03.000 So now you have all these states where it's like, you can buy a gun.
01:27:06.000 And thanks to Hunter Biden.
01:27:09.000 And the DOJ.
01:27:10.000 We may actually see the abolition of federal background checks.
01:27:13.000 I am thrilled with this.
01:27:15.000 This is fantastic.
01:27:15.000 It's gonna be so funny if that happens.
01:27:18.000 You'll be a hero to the gun rights people.
01:27:21.000 They will paint pictures of him.
01:27:23.000 Isn't that funny that he is potentially going to be the face of the Second Amendment movement?
01:27:26.000 Like, he doesn't even want to be there.
01:27:28.000 It's so fascinating.
01:27:29.000 Or maybe he does.
01:27:29.000 I guess he's a gun enthusiast.
01:27:31.000 Hunter Biden lied on a federal background check form that he was not a drug addict when he bought a gun and that's what they got him on.
01:27:37.000 And that violates the Constitution.
01:27:39.000 Because the Constitution doesn't say that you have a right to keep and bear arms unless you do drugs.
01:27:45.000 You can have your rights curtailed through due process if they prove you're a drug addict and have convicted you of it.
01:27:52.000 And also, you have the right to not self-incriminate.
01:27:55.000 So the government forcing you to incriminate yourself for crimes if you want to get a gun is unconstitutional.
01:28:00.000 They are appealing Hunter's case.
01:28:02.000 I hope every single gun rights organization files an amicus brief in support of Hunter Biden and says the Form 4473 is unconstitutional and must be abolished.
01:28:11.000 I have some buddies at the GOA who I can talk to on Discord on the ride home.
01:28:15.000 Absolutely.
01:28:16.000 And then it may turn out that Hunter Biden has his criminal conviction overturned.
01:28:20.000 He's free to go, and he should be.
01:28:22.000 And then no longer, when you want to buy a gun, do you have to fill out a federal form?
01:28:26.000 We'll call it the Hunter Biden law.
01:28:28.000 We'll call it Hunter's precedent.
01:28:31.000 Isn't it amazing that someone like Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son, may actually be the very thing that turns the ATF from a government agency to a convenience store?
01:28:39.000 I always wondered when they were presenting his defense in that case, Lowell, his attorney, was like, well, he did not think of himself as an addict at the time.
01:28:47.000 So, therefore he wasn't.
01:28:48.000 Didn't identify as an addict.
01:28:49.000 And I just wonder how many Americans have tried that defense and been told, shut up.
01:28:53.000 Like, go away.
01:28:54.000 You're the problem.
01:28:55.000 Like, why would it work for Hunter Biden?
01:28:57.000 Except for, I guess, he's special?
01:29:01.000 It's the most proof positive thing I've ever seen of a two-tier justice system.
01:29:05.000 Like, the man is on camera committing at least three different felonies.
01:29:09.000 And they're like, ah, we can't, we can't get him.
01:29:12.000 Michael Cohen admitted to grand larceny on the stand.
01:29:15.000 And they were like, eh, we don't care.
01:29:17.000 Who cares?
01:29:17.000 We don't want Trump.
01:29:18.000 I don't consider it a two-tiered justice system.
01:29:20.000 Like, is it two-tiered justice when Russia, say, like, captures an American and puts him in jail?
01:29:26.000 Would we call that two-tiered justice?
01:29:29.000 I don't think so.
01:29:30.000 So like Ukraine and Russia are fighting each other when Ukraine captures a Russian and
01:29:35.000 then like they see a Russian guy so they're like quick get him and they grab him they
01:29:39.000 tie him up then they see a Ukrainian guy and they go how's it going?
01:29:43.000 We don't call that two-tier justice.
01:29:45.000 Democrats intending to put Trump, his staffers, the people who've worked with him in prison,
01:29:51.000 it's quite literally just a political faction kidnapping their political opponents in plain
01:29:56.000 view of the public without real laws.
01:29:58.000 I mean, Steve Bannon going to prison, what did he do?
01:30:02.000 Contempt of Congress.
01:30:03.000 What was the issue?
01:30:03.000 Trump said, executive privilege, don't hand over the documents.
01:30:07.000 And Bannon was like, okay, well, the president's having executive privilege on executive documents.
01:30:11.000 I can't hand them over.
01:30:12.000 Then at the last minute, Trump said, no, you know what?
01:30:15.000 Go ahead.
01:30:15.000 And then Bannon went, okay, we're good now.
01:30:17.000 They went, we don't care.
01:30:17.000 You're too late.
01:30:18.000 You're going to prison.
01:30:19.000 And they convicted him.
01:30:20.000 So it's not, it's not a legitimate, man, this fly is really killing me.
01:30:23.000 It's not, it's not a legitimate use of law enforcement action.
01:30:26.000 The things that they've done to Trump are not legitimate.
01:30:29.000 So if, if, if someone is at war and conflict and they're weaponizing whatever, like they're getting cops to do this, it's not two tier justice at all.
01:30:39.000 It's just police officers attempting to kidnap Donald Trump and convince you it's okay.
01:30:43.000 They did.
01:30:44.000 Yeah.
01:30:45.000 I mean, as you guys, as I said earlier, I have never intended to vote for Trump, but this is that watching this happen has been like the most terrifying thing of my adult life.
01:30:52.000 The fact that they have just gone whole hog doesn't matter.
01:30:56.000 You know, Hunter Biden is getting off scot-free.
01:30:59.000 Meanwhile, Trump is going to prison for what I believe were actually misdemeanors that were upgraded to felonies.
01:31:05.000 Yes.
01:31:06.000 He may go to prison.
01:31:07.000 We don't know what's going to happen, but I certainly think they'll try.
01:31:09.000 You said you were going to, you're still considering casting a protest vote.
01:31:13.000 I would have gone Constitution Party at this point.
01:31:14.000 That's how far we are.
01:31:16.000 So, what's the big block to voting for Trump?
01:31:20.000 If you know things are bad, you'd rather... I'll be honest, some of the biggest ones are guns.
01:31:27.000 I don't like his gun positions, but again... Trump's.
01:31:30.000 Yeah, like, uh, banning bump stocks I didn't like, the take the guns and try them later I didn't like, what?
01:31:37.000 That quote's not true.
01:31:38.000 Really?
01:31:38.000 Yeah.
01:31:39.000 Oh, alright, well not that one, but still, banning the bump stocks.
01:31:40.000 And we fell for that too, and then, we were talking about it like a couple weeks ago, and I was like, yeah, he did say, you know, I like to ban the guns first and go through the courts later, and then we pulled up the quote, and he was actually not, he was speaking, it was pulled out of context.
01:31:52.000 Oh.
01:31:52.000 It seems like he was quoting someone else.
01:31:54.000 And he may have been saying something like, look, I really don't want to be the guy who says, I want to get the guns first and then go through the courts later.
01:32:00.000 They were like, just clip that middle part.
01:32:02.000 It was clearly pulled out of context, and we don't know what the full context was.
01:32:04.000 Yeah, that's a good point.
01:32:06.000 So not that one then, but yeah, I was upset about the Bumstock ban, because it was just stupid.
01:32:10.000 But they lost.
01:32:11.000 They did, eventually, yeah.
01:32:13.000 That was Trump who led the charge on that.
01:32:15.000 Yeah, I think so, right?
01:32:15.000 I don't know.
01:32:17.000 If I remember correctly, he was the one who, after Vegas, was like, yeah, we gotta ban this, we gotta get rid of these things.
01:32:21.000 Because at heart, he is a New Yorker.
01:32:23.000 You know, he is as New York as it gets.
01:32:27.000 Um, so I think he still does have some of that in him.
01:32:30.000 Honestly, more than anything, I just don't think he's the man for the job.
01:32:35.000 I don't think Biden is either though, and that's what's difficult as a younger voter, as a more independent leaning voter, is like, I...
01:32:43.000 I cannot imagine four more years of Biden, but at the same time, I feel a weird sense of, like, betraying my own values voting for Trump.
01:32:51.000 Which values?
01:32:52.000 Again, it's the hardcore, like, Second Amendment absolutist, the tariffs that he was running throughout.
01:32:59.000 Now, I will say, his proposal to remove income tax entirely and replace it with tariff, I like that.
01:33:05.000 I don't like both.
01:33:06.000 That's Congress, though.
01:33:07.000 I know.
01:33:08.000 So that's the issue.
01:33:09.000 I look at him and there's nothing— What's the issue with tariffs?
01:33:13.000 If you have income tax and tariffs, tariffs are just a tax on the American people.
01:33:17.000 If you have no income tax and you do have tariffs, well now you're being taxed only on your consumption.
01:33:21.000 I'm fine being taxed on consumption.
01:33:22.000 How are tariffs a tax on the American people?
01:33:24.000 Because even if you're technically taxing the overseas producers, when it gets over here, since the overseas producers are bringing things in, the American companies buying them have to pay more money to buy them, and then they pass that cost on to us.
01:33:35.000 So just buy domestically produced products?
01:33:37.000 I would love to.
01:33:38.000 The problem is a lot of them, we don't have a lot of them.
01:33:40.000 Now I'm, again, fully in favor of bringing manufacturing back, of bringing jobs back.
01:33:46.000 How do you do that?
01:33:47.000 I think Trump is the best option for that.
01:33:49.000 I do think that.
01:33:50.000 But like, how do you bring the factories back to the United States?
01:33:52.000 Lowering taxes.
01:33:54.000 I think that if you were to lower taxes enough, and you were to give people the correct incentives without tariffs, I think you can do it.
01:34:03.000 You'd have to lower them to zero to compete with China.
01:34:04.000 That is fine.
01:34:07.000 Yeah.
01:34:08.000 I'm fine with that.
01:34:08.000 Get rid of the taxes.
01:34:10.000 15% flat tax on income, that's it.
01:34:12.000 Nothing else.
01:34:12.000 What if you penalized companies that move their factories overseas?
01:34:20.000 That's the thing.
01:34:21.000 With that, it becomes the precedent of, alright, well, how does this work?
01:34:26.000 How do we decide when a company is getting penalized for moving overseas?
01:34:29.000 How do we decide when a domestic company gets penalized?
01:34:30.000 You charge a tariff on their products to be imported.
01:34:33.000 So if an auto manufacturer moves... I'll admit, you have me on my rear end here.
01:34:38.000 You're beating me.
01:34:39.000 It's also funny because you said earlier... This is what Trump did.
01:34:41.000 You also said earlier that the libertarians, like, you liked what the Mises were doing.
01:34:44.000 They were saying, like, we should compromise.
01:34:45.000 We should get some wins where we can.
01:34:47.000 And then you're also like, but, you know, even though Trump would provide me all these things, like, I still wouldn't vote for him.
01:34:52.000 Well, no, it was... The philosophy is contradicting for me.
01:34:55.000 It is.
01:34:56.000 I'll admit, it probably is a little contradictory.
01:34:58.000 You know, I think...
01:35:03.000 I think at this point everybody's entrenched and I'm having a hard time changing my paradigm.
01:35:08.000 In 2015, it might have been 2016, Michael Moore had one of the greatest speeches in modern American politics, which was intended as an anti-Trump speech.
01:35:17.000 Although all the Trump supporters did was they clipped the end out and they presented what was the greatest Trump-supporting speech of all time.
01:35:23.000 Where Michael Moore said, Donald Trump went into the office of the big auto manufacturers and he said, if you move these factories out of the United States and send them overseas, I will charge a 30% tariff on all of your goods and no one will buy your cars ever again.
01:35:40.000 And Michael Moore said it was amazing.
01:35:42.000 No one had ever stood up to these big corporations before like this.
01:35:47.000 And what he described as Trump is the biggest F.U.
01:35:51.000 in the history of the world.
01:35:53.000 The human Molotov cocktail thrown into the machine.
01:35:56.000 He then goes on to say, and they'll like it for a little while.
01:35:59.000 And then, no end then, people loved it.
01:36:02.000 Donald Trump put these tariffs in place, and what did we end up seeing?
01:36:05.000 A lot of factories decided, instead of, he's got us by the balls.
01:36:10.000 If we try and make a widget here, it's gonna cost us $1 to make, and then we're going to pay the government 30% on top.
01:36:19.000 If we make it in the US, it's going to cost us $1.20 with no tariff.
01:36:23.000 We save $0.10 per widget, make them domestically.
01:36:26.000 And it was really amazing when, I can't remember which auto manufacturer it was, they moved back up to Michigan.
01:36:31.000 There was an announcement of a $3 billion investment back in like 2017 or 2018.
01:36:35.000 The moment Joe Biden gets in, they cancel it, go back to Mexico.
01:36:40.000 And so all those jobs instantly lost.
01:36:44.000 Poor Michigan.
01:36:45.000 Michigan is experiencing a social collapse.
01:36:49.000 What's happening in Detroit is really fascinating.
01:36:51.000 The reason why we got the Flint water crisis?
01:36:54.000 Flint, Michigan has some of the most expensive water in the country.
01:36:58.000 And so Flint switched off from the Detroit lines into their own local river, which was really bad.
01:37:05.000 So people start getting like Legionnaire's disease.
01:37:07.000 The reason Detroit was so expensive is that if you have a water system that costs a million dollars per month to maintain, it's static.
01:37:15.000 That cost ain't changing.
01:37:16.000 Those pipes are there.
01:37:18.000 Someone's got to run these services.
01:37:19.000 Well, if you have 10 million people, I'm not saying like they do in Detroit, but let's say you have 2 million people.
01:37:26.000 You can split that up.
01:37:26.000 Everyone spends 50 cents per month.
01:37:29.000 That's no problem.
01:37:30.000 50 cents.
01:37:31.000 Unfortunately, a million people leave.
01:37:34.000 Everyone's costs double.
01:37:36.000 Now it's a dollar.
01:37:37.000 To be fair, it's actually much higher than this.
01:37:39.000 Everyone was spending like 30-40 bucks on water, and then as the population began to flee Michigan because the auto manufacturers left and the rust belt is dying, The static cost remains, so the cost per person goes up every time someone moves out.
01:37:53.000 Eventually, you ended up with the Detroit metropolitan area having the most expensive water in the country.
01:37:59.000 So Flint says, we can't afford this, we're poor.
01:38:02.000 Shut it off and switch to Flint River.
01:38:04.000 And then everyone started getting sick, creating a massive crisis.
01:38:07.000 We built this massive system in Detroit.
01:38:09.000 It was beautiful.
01:38:10.000 And they've destroyed it because they allowed these companies to go to Mexico and China to produce these products with slave labor.
01:38:16.000 The people in China, they're not getting paid.
01:38:17.000 The Foxconn laboratories, famously 10 years ago, people were walking off the building in mass or threatening to walk off the building in mass suicide because they were getting paid so little.
01:38:27.000 And they were forced to live in these like 16 person rooms and in bunk beds and work like 12 to 14 hour days, barely getting any sleep.
01:38:37.000 We shouldn't allow that.
01:38:39.000 We shouldn't allow companies to exp... like, it's basically slavery.
01:38:43.000 They are going to countries where there are no laws to govern human rights abuses so they can manufacture a product for a hundred bucks and then sell it to an American for a thousand.
01:38:52.000 What that does is it extracts I think Trump was right to impose the tariffs and say, make it in America, give Americans the job.
01:38:56.000 working class, sending it from regular working people slowly over time to the wealthiest
01:39:01.000 Americans and the rest, a pittance, goes to the slave labor in Mexico, China, Indonesia
01:39:06.000 and other places where they make your clothes, Cambodians and things like that.
01:39:10.000 I think Trump was right to impose the tariffs and say, make it in America, give Americans
01:39:14.000 the job, this will make for Americans, some of these products might be a little bit more
01:39:18.000 expensive in the short term, but in the long term, because we're multi-layered thinkers,
01:39:23.000 Americans all of a sudden have income.
01:39:25.000 They're working jobs where they make a lot of money.
01:39:27.000 They're manufacturing cars, computers.
01:39:30.000 We're no longer dependent on China for chips, or I should say Taiwan, but China for our medicine?
01:39:34.000 Our antibiotics and our vitamin C is making China an adversary of this country?
01:39:38.000 That is absolutely insane.
01:39:41.000 I'm with Trump.
01:39:42.000 I think he hit the nail on the head with the hammer with that one.
01:39:44.000 And then what happened?
01:39:45.000 They came out and they said this was a tax on the American people because these companies aren't going to change their behaviors.
01:39:52.000 Okay, well that may be.
01:39:53.000 I don't know.
01:39:53.000 What I can tell you is Joe Biden now just implemented tariffs.
01:39:58.000 Saying, well, we got to do it this way because the outsourcing is killing this country.
01:40:02.000 It is a little absurd that Biden is just slowly re-implementing Trump policies, and it's all the ones they hated at the beginning.
01:40:11.000 Now, I mean, what's left?
01:40:12.000 I don't think there's any Trump economic policies that Biden hasn't adopted because they worked better than his own.
01:40:17.000 I think it's just social at this point.
01:40:18.000 We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?
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01:40:54.000 You're like, Antifa can't afford $25.
01:40:57.000 So when we first started, yeah.
01:41:01.000 So it's fascinating.
01:41:03.000 Many of them don't want to pay at all.
01:41:04.000 Yeah.
01:41:05.000 Some of them would still do it.
01:41:06.000 And then they would come in and they would try and screw with us.
01:41:08.000 And so then I was like, we have to put a gate.
01:41:10.000 So none of these Antifa people pay and want to pay 10 months for six months to do it.
01:41:17.000 So they give up.
01:41:18.000 Yeah.
01:41:19.000 $25 also was like, eh, it's not worth it.
01:41:21.000 So we were like, this created like a minimum barrier to make sure, like you can go in the chat rooms, but there's like, after six months you get upgraded because we're trying to keep, people could do real disruptive stuff.
01:41:33.000 And so we were like, got to keep those people out of here.
01:41:36.000 Only for the legit people who actually want to have the conversations.
01:41:38.000 And then I will announce for our elite members.
01:41:44.000 You may have seen the video I posted on X singing Eve Six's Inside Out.
01:41:48.000 That's right, karaoke.
01:41:50.000 And so we're going to be giving shoutouts to our elite members, which is a hundred bucks a month.
01:41:56.000 So we went to this bar, they had karaoke night and there was like seven people there and I'm like, we need more people.
01:42:01.000 So I was like, we should just shout out the elite members.
01:42:02.000 Let them know, like, hey, we're going to come hang out.
01:42:04.000 Come hang out with us in West Virginia.
01:42:05.000 And so that's, you know, a good, like a good benefit to those who really do, who are really supporting us with the elite membership.
01:42:10.000 And then you can, you can hang out and sing Eve 6 with us.
01:42:13.000 And then I tweeted it to Eve 6 because that dude Max is very, very lefty.
01:42:17.000 And I wanted him to know that I know all the lyrics.
01:42:19.000 I did not need the prompter and I could sing that song again.
01:42:22.000 And I will.
01:42:23.000 All right, here we go.
01:42:24.000 Kyle says, hoping for another shout out for Chronic Golf and Games on Hilton Head.
01:42:29.000 We're proud to have whole bean and ground cast brew for sale in our marketplace.
01:42:33.000 Shout out, man.
01:42:34.000 Really do appreciate it.
01:42:36.000 Alright.
01:42:39.000 Kyle says, Doctor... Is that Ethan?
01:42:41.000 Ethan Hame is facing 10 years on four felony charges for reporting on how his Texas hospital was chemically and surgically castrating kids as young as 11.
01:42:49.000 Yeah, I've seen the story.
01:42:50.000 We've actually got one of these stories up for the Members Only show, which will get a little spicy, so... And Chris Carr just covered this on SCNR.com, so check out his article.
01:43:00.000 Craig Dubbs says, I want to publicly thank Chris for not only supporting the suffering MMTLP community, but giving us full access to his contacts in Washington.
01:43:08.000 He's a man of the people.
01:43:09.000 100-plus congressmen have signed on.
01:43:12.000 Yes, I'll actually talk about that stuff that came up for a minute.
01:43:14.000 So, you know, you hear a lot about the stock market manipulation that happened with AMC and with GameStop.
01:43:20.000 Well, really, the one that has the evidence, the one that would be the smoking gun, if you will, is MMTLP.
01:43:26.000 So this is a dividend stock who went on the OTC and traded for a little while against the company's will, and then eventually was to be, by FINRA, announced on December 6, 2022, that on December 12, it was going to stop trading and go private again.
01:43:42.000 Okay, well then on the 7th, the vice president of OTC backs up that same thing saying, you got to December 12th, sell your shares, get your money out.
01:43:50.000 Okay, then on December 8th, FINRA again backs up that same statement, December 12th it will go off being publicly traded.
01:43:59.000 Then all these people, 65,000 shareholders, wake up on December 9th with the trade halted and all their money gone.
01:44:07.000 And we have reached out to members of Congress.
01:44:08.000 Congressman Mooney here in West Virginia has been a big help with this.
01:44:12.000 I helped with 15 of these 100 signatures personally.
01:44:14.000 So we have about 25% of Congress demanding answers, wanting FINRA to release a share count here just to audit this thing.
01:44:21.000 And, you know, we talk about having free and fair markets.
01:44:24.000 Well, how about a free and fair stock market where everyday people like us can invest their way to our American dream without these hedge funds doing naked shorting and getting these regulatory agencies to do these unfair halts taking your money?
01:44:38.000 It's robbery.
01:44:39.000 It's Robin Hood in reverse.
01:44:40.000 How did you get interested in this or learn about it?
01:44:44.000 I actually learned about it through Twitter.
01:44:47.000 I was running for office and people reached out to me.
01:44:50.000 I always try to help people where I can.
01:44:53.000 People reach out to me about an issue.
01:44:54.000 I always try to research it and try to help as many people as I can.
01:44:56.000 I'm not even elected to office yet.
01:44:58.000 I'm not even sworn in technically yet.
01:44:59.000 I see an opportunity to make a difference.
01:45:02.000 I have, through helping President Trump's campaigns and the Tea Party movement.
01:45:06.000 I know some people in D.C.
01:45:07.000 So, you know, when people presented me with an issue, I started calling these congressmen, like, hey, have you heard about this?
01:45:10.000 They're like, no.
01:45:11.000 So then I get, you know, some people like Drew Diligence is what he goes on on Twitter.
01:45:15.000 His name's Drew.
01:45:16.000 He has to give me some evidence.
01:45:17.000 Let's get some stuff together.
01:45:18.000 Let's start having some, you know, phone calls, some Zoom calls with some of these congressmen.
01:45:22.000 You know, Sessions and Mooney and Eli Crane and Matt Gaetz and others have been very vocal on this.
01:45:27.000 And it's becoming a bipartisan issue.
01:45:29.000 And it's actually, you know, gives you a little bit of glimmer of hope.
01:45:31.000 We talk about the two-party system and how they're at odds with each other.
01:45:34.000 It's amazing, you know, the hundred members of Congress we have.
01:45:36.000 It's not all one party.
01:45:38.000 So, I mean, it does give you a little bit of glimmer of hope that you see a little bit of bipartisanship going on.
01:45:42.000 But, you know, we're 18 months into this and it's not been resolved.
01:45:46.000 And we have to resolve this stuff so we can, you know, have free and fair stock markets.
01:45:49.000 Because the money, the amount of money that has been stolen from these people and the amount of suffering they've been through, it's inexcusable.
01:45:54.000 I mean, this is so unconstitutional on so many levels.
01:45:57.000 It's very cool that you took that on.
01:45:58.000 Right on, alright.
01:45:59.000 We got Max Reddick who says, Tim, did Pac-Man ever confirm for Culture War?
01:46:03.000 If so, this Friday.
01:46:04.000 The good news is, Pac-Man, we were talking about coming on, he wants to come on with Just Me.
01:46:09.000 He agreed.
01:46:10.000 However, the original date was July 5th.
01:46:14.000 We are not here on July 5th.
01:46:17.000 It's like literally impossible.
01:46:18.000 And so we are rescheduling, but shout out to David.
01:46:21.000 I respect it and I appreciate his willingness to come on and have the conversation.
01:46:24.000 Just meet him on the Culture War podcast.
01:46:27.000 But I will stress that Thursday and Friday, July 4th and 5th, no shows because it's like the most important holiday.
01:46:37.000 One of them, Father's Day is a pretty important one.
01:46:39.000 I tweeted that out.
01:46:40.000 The most important because fathers are required for a functioning society.
01:46:43.000 Everyone was very excited.
01:46:45.000 But the 4th of July, we are going to be hanging out.
01:46:49.000 We're going to be watching the fireworks and we're going to be eating burgers and doing America stuff and flying the American flag because we love this country and we want it to survive.
01:46:55.000 And when I say that there's like no country, I mean we are at odds.
01:47:00.000 The people who believe in what America is Actually, I can simplify it.
01:47:05.000 If someone flies an American flag, you know who they're voting for.
01:47:08.000 That's where we currently are in this country, and that matters.
01:47:11.000 So, also, July 5th is also 4th of July, too.
01:47:15.000 Everybody knows on July 5th, we're all gonna be out eating burgers and watching fireworks, and then we're gonna do the same thing on Saturday, so we get a four-day 4th of July celebration this year, and we are going to accept it.
01:47:26.000 The reality is also, there's literally no way to book someone to come on the 5th of July.
01:47:32.000 I wouldn't even want to ask somebody.
01:47:32.000 No way.
01:47:34.000 They're going to be like, dude, I'm going to be hanging out with my family.
01:47:36.000 Come on.
01:47:36.000 We really respect the observance of 4th of July here.
01:47:39.000 We can't ask anyone to travel on it unless it is for freedom and liberty purposes.
01:47:43.000 Yeah, the other tough thing is that we're going through our holiday schedule and the last two weeks of December are just out.
01:47:51.000 Because Christmas falls, I think, on Tuesday.
01:47:53.000 And so it's like... So that's it.
01:47:56.000 Monday's Christmas Eve, we're gonna be with family.
01:47:57.000 Tuesday's Christmas, we'll be with family.
01:47:59.000 And there's no way we're having anybody fly to this studio on a Wednesday.
01:48:03.000 And then it's like, what do you do?
01:48:04.000 And then you got New Year's coming up right away?
01:48:04.000 Thursday and Friday?
01:48:06.000 Ah, it's not happening.
01:48:07.000 Nobody wants to do that.
01:48:08.000 Plus, if there's any, like, bad storms, like, you get one delayed flight and it messes up the entire guest schedule, I assume.
01:48:15.000 Yeah.
01:48:16.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.
01:48:21.000 Here we go.
01:48:22.000 AJ Helbeck.
01:48:24.000 Hey everyone, I don't know who else to turn to, but my Bernese has gone through a life-saving surgery, and the medical costs are sadly more than I can manage.
01:48:33.000 If anyone can help, it's on Y-Donate.
01:48:37.000 Bastion the Bernese.
01:48:39.000 I don't know what Y Donate is.
01:48:40.000 You've never heard of that.
01:48:41.000 I'm assuming it's just another kind of like GoFundMe, right?
01:48:43.000 Yeah, best of luck.
01:48:44.000 I know GoFundMe and GiveSendGo, but I haven't heard of that one.
01:48:47.000 Yeah, I like GiveSendGo because they're not woke.
01:48:49.000 They don't ban you.
01:48:50.000 Like, uh, like, wait, wait, not, not GiveSendGo.
01:48:53.000 Wait.
01:48:54.000 Yeah, I guess GoFundMe is the bad one.
01:48:57.000 GiveSendGo is the good one.
01:48:58.000 There we go.
01:48:58.000 Yeah.
01:48:59.000 I got confused here a second.
01:49:00.000 All right.
01:49:02.000 I don't even understand how you get deported 16 times, come back, and then get a job without a driver's license.
01:49:05.000 CDL caused a fatal crash last week in Colorado that killed someone.
01:49:09.000 He was deported 16 times prior.
01:49:11.000 Brandon's border has consequences.
01:49:13.000 I don't even understand how you get deported 16 times, come back and then get a job without
01:49:19.000 a driver's license.
01:49:20.000 Like, well, we can't judge judge potential asylum seekers.
01:49:23.000 And if we just assume everyone is supposed to be here, it's just so many times.
01:49:28.000 It's crazy to me.
01:49:29.000 But you hear stuff like this all the time, right?
01:49:30.000 I mean, the story of someone who's been deported multiple times with an established criminal history comes back and, I don't know, commits a crime is well-documented in America.
01:49:39.000 We just don't take the border crisis seriously, especially under this administration.
01:49:42.000 Yeah, I mean, we've even had a woman here in West Virginia who was murdered by an illegal immigrant who It's sad to me that you can name so many, like Rachel Moore in Maryland, at Mama 5, Lake and Riley.
01:49:50.000 You know, with the Iguana immigration, I call it an invasion.
01:49:52.000 Let's just call it what it is.
01:49:53.000 I mean, it's an invasion of people into our country.
01:49:56.000 And also the fentanyl crisis.
01:49:57.000 I mean, we have to have, you know, if the federal government's not going to secure the border,
01:50:01.000 then the states need to be willing to band together to do it.
01:50:02.000 I mean, it's their 10th Amendment right to have, you know, secure borders.
01:50:06.000 It's sad to me that you can name so many, like Rachel Moran in Maryland, at Mama 5,
01:50:10.000 Lake and Riley.
01:50:11.000 The fact that this is something that I feel like it should be something that happens once,
01:50:15.000 and it captures house attention, and we're horrified by it.
01:50:17.000 But instead, there are so many names that you honestly end up forgetting some, and it's sad.
01:50:21.000 All right, the text vet says, the draft is only for aggressive wars.
01:50:24.000 A war in self-defense wouldn't need a draft.
01:50:26.000 People would defend themselves and our land.
01:50:26.000 True.
01:50:29.000 The only need for a draft is to force people to serve in an unwanted war.
01:50:32.000 Get rid of the draft.
01:50:33.000 Disagree.
01:50:34.000 I'm with you on that.
01:50:36.000 The draft in a defensive war organizes and coordinates efforts to win the war.
01:50:41.000 If an invasion force lands at Boston, and you say, nah, everyone will defend themselves, a coordinated, organized enemy force will easily crush all of these singular individuals trying to defend themselves.
01:50:53.000 When you conscript the young men, you say, in order to repel them, we have to organize our forces and build a strategy to stop them.
01:51:00.000 Because, you know, I'll put it this way, you know why there's no anarchists, great anarchist societies?
01:51:05.000 I believe Catalonia briefly had one for a little bit?
01:51:08.000 Iceland, for a while.
01:51:09.000 Oh yeah, that's a great example too, Iceland.
01:51:11.000 And do you know why Iceland had one for a little while?
01:51:14.000 Because they're in the middle of the ocean?
01:51:15.000 Exactly.
01:51:16.000 Because what happens with anarchist societies is a barbarian leader or a fascist dictator or otherwise just says, so they try to rule by committee?
01:51:26.000 So I can just instruct my men to take it?
01:51:28.000 Okay.
01:51:30.000 So anytime there's an attempt at some like passive, we're going to meet together and talk without a massive powerful standing army?
01:51:38.000 The standing army just walks in.
01:51:39.000 And then the anarchists are like, quick, convene a meeting to figure out what to do!
01:51:43.000 Who's in charge?
01:51:44.000 I don't know!
01:51:45.000 And then you are being ruled by some bad guy.
01:51:49.000 Yeah, we fought hard at Bunker Hill, and we fought hard as we were getting pushed down through New York and into Pennsylvania and into Virginia, and it was only once we got to Valley Forge and trained the military that we were able to do anything.
01:51:59.000 We need a draft for domestic wars.
01:52:02.000 All right, Jump Daddy says, I'm a paratrooper in the 82nd.
01:52:05.000 We started getting female infantrymen last year.
01:52:07.000 They can't carry a rucksack over 70 pounds, they can't carry a machine gun, and they're all getting medically retired.
01:52:13.000 I've heard these stories.
01:52:14.000 This is why I ask, do you think part of it is that people don't want to recognize the differences between men and women?
01:52:19.000 They just think, oh, a person's a person and a person, which is not inherently true.
01:52:23.000 In combat, yes.
01:52:25.000 If they drafted all of these Gen Z women and made them clean the kitchen, then you've got administrative work, you've got... I'm for the Civil Service Corps, I agree, but I do not want anyone... But military has people who clean kitchens, too.
01:52:37.000 True.
01:52:38.000 We should suffer that out.
01:52:39.000 Maybe that would help the military budget, right?
01:52:40.000 If we make that a Civil Service Corps.
01:52:43.000 You know it's not gonna fly.
01:52:44.000 We got a couple options for you, okay?
01:52:46.000 Combat, and it should be a requirement to carry the proper weight, machine gun, rucksack, all of that stuff, or Domestic work.
01:52:56.000 You know what I mean?
01:52:58.000 Like...
01:52:59.000 You know, someone's got to clean up the puke in the mess hall or whatever, someone's got to do the dishes, someone's got to make the food.
01:53:04.000 There's also, there are like internal jobs they can take, like small arms techs.
01:53:09.000 Secretaries.
01:53:10.000 Yeah.
01:53:11.000 The one that I thought immediately was small arms tech, because first of all, women's hands.
01:53:14.000 Smaller.
01:53:15.000 Easier to work with tiny parts.
01:53:17.000 And it's totally safe.
01:53:18.000 There's no danger.
01:53:19.000 You are back behind the lines.
01:53:21.000 Everybody comes to you and says, I need my gun.
01:53:23.000 You hand it to them, that's all you do.
01:53:24.000 They can pull levers in a factory to make the, you know, machines work.
01:53:28.000 Domestic, no problem.
01:53:29.000 You get drafted, you work, you gotta go do it.
01:53:31.000 Hey, there you go.
01:53:32.000 As long as you don't get military service benefits for it.
01:53:36.000 If you're in the military, I say, why not?
01:53:37.000 I don't think they should be in the military.
01:53:39.000 I think they should do these tasks in the Civil Service Corps, which I'm now getting more and more excited about every time I say it.
01:53:43.000 I like the Starship Troopers model.
01:53:44.000 There's no such thing.
01:53:45.000 That's the one with that, like, worm bug thing.
01:53:49.000 Nuts, dude.
01:53:50.000 Oh.
01:53:51.000 I don't... I don't think I've seen it.
01:53:52.000 No, there's a... there's a gigantic... Is there?
01:53:53.000 Well, it's like a... it's like a... I don't know how to describe it, I guess.
01:53:56.000 It's huge, but it's sort of like... And then he's like, it's afraid.
01:53:59.000 Oh, that thing.
01:53:59.000 Yeah.
01:54:00.000 Okay, I know... now I know what you're talking about.
01:54:01.000 I'm talking more about the book.
01:54:01.000 Yeah.
01:54:03.000 Okay.
01:54:04.000 I... I haven't read the book.
01:54:05.000 The movie is a satire written by a guy who never read the book.
01:54:08.000 Yeah, but, like, even in the movie, the bugs are, like, the bad guys.
01:54:11.000 They attacked Earth.
01:54:13.000 Yeah, it's very anti-bug.
01:54:15.000 I definitely got that vibe.
01:54:16.000 I was like, what?
01:54:17.000 And then he tried making the humans look like Nazis, and I'm like, but we were attacked.
01:54:21.000 They blew up a city and killed millions of people.
01:54:23.000 The bugs were the aggressors here.
01:54:24.000 Yeah, they were evil.
01:54:25.000 Wow.
01:54:27.000 They killed so many people for no reason.
01:54:28.000 And then we went and we conquered them.
01:54:31.000 I don't want to get into a fight, you know what I'm saying?
01:54:31.000 Don't hit me.
01:54:34.000 Let's go.
01:54:35.000 Omega Rasetsu says, Tim, have you considered that including women to be part of the Selective Service would be how it is dismantled?
01:54:41.000 I personally say end the draft.
01:54:45.000 I like the idea of like, you know, back in the day, the British are coming and they're killing everybody and people are like, okay, we have to stand up against this.
01:54:52.000 And they went to a bunch of young men and said, are you with us or not?
01:54:55.000 And they were like, you're in, we got to defend this country if there's going to be one.
01:55:00.000 But I do believe a lot of the Continental Army was enlisted, not conscripted.
01:55:04.000 I think part of enlisted is that you believe that there is something worth fighting for, and I can understand where generations after seeing, you know, Endless Wars or feeling like the places we're being sent don't actually serve a national defense purpose.
01:55:16.000 They just sort of serve the purpose of getting more influence for people in positions of influence.
01:55:22.000 That's not a very inspirational time to sign up and potentially risk your life.
01:55:26.000 Yeah, no.
01:55:28.000 What have we here?
01:55:30.000 Ryan Sargent says, straight up, women's equality depends on men's willingness to grant it.
01:55:33.000 Prove me wrong.
01:55:34.000 No, you're correct.
01:55:35.000 100%.
01:55:36.000 There's a video that went viral a few months ago, and it's popping up again, where an untrained man fights a woman with 10 years experience in karate.
01:55:44.000 And it's just like, people are saying the guy's clearly holding back.
01:55:48.000 It's like, yeah.
01:55:49.000 Other people complained that the style of karate she was, she was using was not a legitimate fighting style.
01:55:55.000 And I gotta admit, I'd be willing to bet that if this guy who was untrained fought Ronda Rousey, she'd mess him up.
01:56:01.000 Real bad.
01:56:01.000 Yeah.
01:56:02.000 However, I do think that like the average guy, well, you know, I don't know if that's true anymore.
01:56:07.000 The average guy is so doughy and weak that they probably would not be able to actually handle a trained woman at this point.
01:56:13.000 Whereas like, If you go back to what the average guy is supposed to be versus the 200-pound guy it is today, you know, maybe.
01:56:21.000 Women on average are 170 pounds in the United States.
01:56:23.000 That's crazy.
01:56:25.000 What is the average height?
01:56:25.000 I'm 185 pounds.
01:56:27.000 For a woman it's, what, 5'4".
01:56:28.000 5'4", 170 pounds?
01:56:29.000 Yeah, and guys are 5'9", 200.
01:56:30.000 Guys.
01:56:31.000 Not the ratio I would go for.
01:56:31.000 Yikes.
01:56:33.000 Yeah, no.
01:56:34.000 I was 5'9", 200 a year and a half ago.
01:56:36.000 I did not look good.
01:56:37.000 But no I was five nine and two hundred a year and a half ago. I did not look good
01:56:42.000 I did not feel good Let's go.
01:56:45.000 Tim Aldridge says, as someone who's tried to initially join the Air Force and then cross over from the Navy into the Space Force, good luck getting into either, especially during a war.
01:56:55.000 I had a very good ASVAB score.
01:56:58.000 I'm hoping it sticks.
01:56:59.000 Everyone's going to want to be working in the kitchen.
01:57:02.000 I want to write the propaganda.
01:57:03.000 I want that to be my job.
01:57:05.000 Space Force makes its recruiting goals, so it'll be interesting to see how the draft would affect them.
01:57:11.000 It's really, you know, infantry.
01:57:13.000 That's what the draft is for.
01:57:15.000 I just don't know that many people who are like... I have known some, but there are not a lot of people who are like, I want to be front lines.
01:57:22.000 Alright, Sneak King says we should draft illegal aliens first.
01:57:26.000 No.
01:57:26.000 No.
01:57:27.000 They have no stake in it.
01:57:28.000 They'll desert.
01:57:28.000 They won't want to fight.
01:57:29.000 They're already talking about doing that and granting them citizenship in exchange.
01:57:32.000 That might work.
01:57:32.000 Boo.
01:57:33.000 No!
01:57:33.000 Yeah, not a fan.
01:57:34.000 You come here illegally, and then we're like, okay, but if we give you federal money, you'll be loyal to the federal government?
01:57:39.000 And they're like, okay.
01:57:41.000 I say we send them all to Ukraine.
01:57:42.000 Well, my thinking is you don't take all of the illegal immigrants, put them into a regiment together, and then send them off to fight.
01:57:49.000 You split them up amongst regiments that are full of Americans, and then that culturally Americanizes them.
01:57:54.000 It's what the Romans did in a lot of cases.
01:57:56.000 I just think it's weird that there are all kinds of rules about enlisting in the military when you have a criminal record.
01:58:00.000 But if you're here in the country illegally, which is a crime, you could then be in the military and be granted a pathway to citizenship.
01:58:06.000 I do think it's a little silly that we have, you can't be in the military if you have a criminal record.
01:58:10.000 Like, so many people come out of the military better people than they went in.
01:58:13.000 I mean, you are in there with people who are They're going to call you out when you do bad things.
01:58:20.000 They're going to make it a problem when you go against the group.
01:58:23.000 Like, they're gonna teach you how to be a team player.
01:58:27.000 Yeah.
01:58:27.000 So we're gonna put an end to this right now.
01:58:29.000 Oh boy.
01:58:29.000 S.A.
01:58:30.000 Federale says you better call it Quad Cities Pizza, Tim.
01:58:32.000 S.A., you are wrong.
01:58:34.000 Stop calling my pizza your pizza.
01:58:37.000 This right here, we have an image.
01:58:38.000 Let me show it for you.
01:58:39.000 This is Chicago.
01:58:40.000 This is real Chicago pizza.
01:58:42.000 What you are seeing on your screen This right here, this image where you can see a little, that deep dish garbage, that is tourist pizza for people who don't know what pizza is, and they come to Chicago, and they went, I want Chicago pizza, and we all go, yeah, yeah, go to Giordano's.
01:58:55.000 And they do, don't get me wrong, Lou Malnati's, I don't know if Leona's still exists, Pizzeria Uno, they're all over the place, and Giordano's, it's good, but 99% of the time, in Chicago, when you'd order a pizza, you would get this big thing right here on the right.
01:59:11.000 The crust is flat.
01:59:13.000 It is thin.
01:59:13.000 It doesn't rise on the edges.
01:59:15.000 It's crunchy.
01:59:16.000 The middle is not crunchy, like under the cheese and everything.
01:59:19.000 It's thick, but it's still kind of soft.
01:59:22.000 This is Quad Cities.
01:59:23.000 What is this?
01:59:24.000 I've never had such a thing before.
01:59:25.000 That's just a Neapolitan pizza sliced into squares.
01:59:27.000 I do not know what this Quad Cities pizza is.
01:59:29.000 Do not come to me and tell me that your pizza is my pizza.
01:59:32.000 Okay?
01:59:33.000 The one you're saying that's classic Chicago pizza looks interesting.
01:59:35.000 You know, obviously I grew up in New England.
01:59:38.000 There's a pizza quality that I'm looking for.
01:59:40.000 The thing about deep dish pizza is you can't pick it up.
01:59:43.000 You have to use utensils for it.
01:59:45.000 It's fun as a thing, but see, I feel like when I've eaten it, it's like just too... It is kind of hard.
01:59:51.000 I think it's because outside of Chicago, nobody knows how to do it right.
01:59:53.000 It's nice, but it just doesn't seem like, if you're looking for pizza, this is what you would get.
01:59:58.000 I will tell you this.
01:59:59.000 In my life, I have gone to a deep dish pizza place 7 or 8 times.
02:00:07.000 And I have gone to a real pizza place 897 times.
02:00:12.000 I mean, honestly, probably more than that.
02:00:16.000 We would go to Big Tony's in near Logan Square, and I think it's closed now, and we'd order the extra-large jumbo family-size Giardiniera pizza, and it was massive, and it looked like that.
02:00:28.000 Can they call it tavern-style?
02:00:31.000 Well, I guess that's what it's called.
02:00:33.000 I don't know.
02:00:33.000 We just called it pizza.
02:00:34.000 And almost never would we be like, let's go get pizza and eat Giordano's.
02:00:40.000 I like Giordano's, it's good.
02:00:41.000 No beef.
02:00:41.000 You know, it's tourist pizza.
02:00:43.000 The tourists come in and they go, we want pizza, and they go buy the weird tourist stuff from that big chain of tourist pizza places that you could order on the internet pre-made frozen and delivered to you.
02:00:52.000 You guys want a little Philadelphia secret?
02:00:55.000 Pats and Geno's aren't the best cheese steaks.
02:00:57.000 Probably.
02:00:58.000 They're not anywhere near it.
02:01:00.000 Well, you gotta get the good local stuff.
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