Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 15, 2025


Biden Pardons WERE FAKE, NYT Report PROVES Trump WAS RIGHT, Fauci Faces Charges | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

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2 hours and 12 minutes

Words per Minute

205.26512

Word Count

27,095

Sentence Count

2,302

Misogynist Sentences

45

Hate Speech Sentences

79


Summary

On today's show, we discuss the latest in the Joe Biden scandal, a new report from the New York Times on the pardons that were signed by President Joe Biden, and the latest on the Epstein scandal. We also hear about Mayor Karen Bass and her plan to give money to illegal immigrants who are here illegally and that are currently trying to evade federal law enforcement.


Transcript

00:02:47.000 In a bombshell report from the New York Times, they admit not only did Joe Biden have all of these pardons signed by Autopenn, but he actually wasn't even aware of some of them.
00:02:59.000 Now, the funny thing is the headline is Biden says he approved of these.
00:03:05.000 Considering their reporting that he didn't know about some of them and that the aides just took it upon themselves to go do this, well, it says that that's it right there.
00:03:13.000 How could these pardons be valid if the only one that actually appears to have been signed is the pardoning of Hunter Biden?
00:03:22.000 Rand Paul has said that he is reissuing his criminal referral for Dr. Fauci.
00:03:28.000 But you've got the J-Six committee.
00:03:29.000 You've got Dr. Fauci.
00:03:31.000 You've got Biden's family.
00:03:32.000 All of those pardons in question.
00:03:34.000 Not to mention all of the other individuals, because there was a big pardon that all the presidents do.
00:03:38.000 These are people in prison you probably never even heard of.
00:03:41.000 All of them now in question.
00:03:42.000 We're going to talk about that.
00:03:42.000 Plus, we've got some other really big stories.
00:03:45.000 I don't know how else to say this because, guys, you know, on this show, I often refrain and I argue as hard as possible that people are not committing treason.
00:03:54.000 They say, oh, you know, that Democrat, this or that lawyer committed treason.
00:03:58.000 I'm like, no, treason is adhering to the enemies of the United States.
00:04:02.000 What most people are referring to with like Comey and these investigations is sedition, trying to undermine or overthrow the government.
00:04:09.000 Treason is when you betray your country to foreign individuals, to enemies of the United States.
00:04:15.000 Mayor Karen Bass has announced that she will be partnering with private individuals to give money to illegal immigrants that are here illegally and that are currently trying to evade federal law enforcement.
00:04:26.000 Now, Trump has already declared an invasion.
00:04:29.000 He has targeted these marijuana farms.
00:04:32.000 There's concerns about child slave labor.
00:04:35.000 They recovered, I think it might be either 14 or 20 child slaves working on these farms.
00:04:41.000 Trump's saying, we're going to send in law enforcement and shut this down.
00:04:45.000 Strong likelihood that there is an overlap between these narco gangs, these cartels.
00:04:52.000 And now we're hearing Karen Bass says she's going to give them cash, quite literally to the letter of the law, that is treason.
00:05:00.000 And I don't say that lightly, but I don't have another word for it.
00:05:04.000 When Donald Trump, the president of the United States, declares an invasion and says these people are an invasive force on our country.
00:05:11.000 We are going to start deporting these narco gangs, American, et cetera.
00:05:15.000 This is the first step of the line where a politician is providing funding and resources to individuals by which Trump has already said we are being invaded.
00:05:25.000 So tell me what you think that means, but I'm going to read the law to you.
00:05:29.000 And I think this is the first step of the line of where we can actually say that is treasonous.
00:05:35.000 It's an insane thing to be seeing.
00:05:37.000 But they are pushing that line.
00:05:39.000 We've also got more on the Epstein story because apparently Lark Trump says there are more Epstein documents they're going to release.
00:05:45.000 So this whole story is nuts.
00:05:48.000 Charlie Kirk put out the video saying, you know what?
00:05:50.000 I'm going to trust my friends in government on this one.
00:05:52.000 And everybody just went, huh?
00:05:55.000 Trust your friends.
00:05:55.000 This is the Epstein story.
00:05:58.000 But there's an interesting point to be made in all of this, which we'll get into.
00:06:01.000 And it should be interesting nonetheless.
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00:09:34.000 I am here.
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00:09:35.000 Daniel Turner, Power of the Future.
00:09:37.000 Nice to be back.
00:09:37.000 Thanks for having me.
00:09:38.000 And I'm going to get beamed because I am married to a notorious bad sleeper.
00:09:42.000 So I'm excited about this.
00:09:43.000 It's great.
00:09:44.000 But here's, you know, we often have guests on.
00:09:47.000 And I asked, you know, Lisa, did you book them at this time on purpose?
00:09:51.000 And she's like, it was a coincidence.
00:09:52.000 You actually testified on auto pen use.
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00:09:55.000 My organization, Power of the Future, was doing it on the environmental executive orders because obviously we fight environmental groups.
00:10:02.000 And yeah, so I testified a couple of weeks ago on the auto pen use.
00:10:06.000 And when we get into the conversation, I got a lot to say on this.
00:10:09.000 So I'm excited.
00:10:10.000 Shane's hanging out.
00:10:10.000 I'm looking forward to talking about the auto pen.
00:10:12.000 I just found out it was like a giant robot.
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00:10:38.000 Alad.
00:10:39.000 Awesome.
00:10:40.000 Good evening, everybody.
00:10:41.000 I am Alad Eliyahu, White House correspondent and field reporter here at Timcast.
00:10:45.000 Let's get into the news.
00:10:46.000 I just want to mention one quick thing, too, for those watching live on YouTube.
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00:11:09.000 Don't want to miss it.
00:11:10.000 Let's jump into the news.
00:11:10.000 We got this from the New York Times.
00:11:13.000 Biden says he made the clemency decisions that were recorded with Autopen.
00:11:18.000 I was worried there for a minute.
00:11:20.000 You know, I thought for a second that Biden didn't actually do it.
00:11:23.000 Oh, let me actually scroll down more than halfway through the story to find this.
00:11:29.000 Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to large numbers of people.
00:11:35.000 He and AIDS confirmed.
00:11:37.000 Rather, after extensive discussion of different possible criteria, he signed off on the standards he wanted to be used to determine which convicts would qualify for a reduction in sentence.
00:11:48.000 Even after Mr. Biden made the decision, one former aide said the Bureau of Prisons kept providing additional information about specific inmates, resulting in small changes to the list.
00:11:56.000 Rather than ask Mr. Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version through the auto pen, which they saw as routine.
00:12:04.000 So they buried that halfway down.
00:12:06.000 But there's a lot more.
00:12:07.000 There's one.
00:12:09.000 Let me see if I can get this one.
00:12:10.000 This one's massive.
00:12:12.000 This is the actual smoking gun.
00:12:15.000 Mr. Biden completed the list of high-profile clemency decisions over two meetings.
00:12:19.000 The emails show.
00:12:20.000 One on January 18th included Mr. Zeintz, is that how you pronounce it?
00:12:24.000 Mr. Siskel, another aide, Bruce Reed.
00:12:26.000 Another on the evening of January 19th, his final night as president, was with Mr. Siskel.
00:12:32.000 They say the emails show that Mr. Biden added the preemptive pardons for his family at the January 19th meeting.
00:12:37.000 They also suggest that he changed some of his thinking, but there's more.
00:12:41.000 The emails show that an aide to Mr. Siskel sent a draft summary of Mr. Biden's decision at that meeting to an assistant, to Mr. Zeins, copying Mr. Siskel at 10.03 p.m.
00:12:53.000 The assistant forwarded it to Mr. Reed and Mr. Zeinz asking for their approval and then sent a final version to Ms. Feldman copying many meeting participants and aides at 1028.
00:13:03.000 Three minutes later, Zeins hit reply on wrote: I approve the use of the auto pen for the execution of all of the following pardons.
00:13:10.000 That means between 10.03, 10.28, and then three minutes later, 10.31, there was no possible time for this staffer to go to Joe Biden and say, are these pardons confirmed?
00:13:25.000 In fact, this guy who I've never heard of, Mr. Zeints, approved pardons to the staff who used the auto pen.
00:13:32.000 Void.
00:13:33.000 They should all be void.
00:13:34.000 I don't know how we, this is crazy.
00:13:35.000 The president can't delegate away pardon powers, at least as far as I know.
00:13:40.000 Yeah, no, Biden's asleep by 6 o'clock.
00:13:42.000 I was just going to say that.
00:13:43.000 Biden was definitely not awake at 10.48 p.m., 10.38.
00:13:47.000 Now, here's the big hammer.
00:13:49.000 The lead of the story that should have been the first sentence.
00:13:54.000 Mr. Biden granted Hunter Biden a full pardon in December 2024.
00:13:59.000 It was the only clemency warrant in that period that Mr. Biden signed with his own hand.
00:14:04.000 Wow.
00:14:05.000 That's the lead story.
00:14:07.000 AIDS confirm Biden did not sign off on the individual pardons.
00:14:12.000 It's evil.
00:14:13.000 I'm curious if he did the pardon with the auto pen for the judge who was getting kickbacks for cash for kids.
00:14:19.000 You know about that story?
00:14:20.000 Like it's an insane story.
00:14:21.000 That guy got pardoned as well, but that's what they do at the end, just like Bill Clinton pardoning whether underground terrorists.
00:14:27.000 I mean, Trump did it.
00:14:28.000 Yeah, I know.
00:14:28.000 I think it should be totally banned.
00:14:31.000 We were like, what about Snowden or like Ross or Assange?
00:14:36.000 Yeah.
00:14:36.000 Yeah.
00:14:37.000 So President Trump has said many times, whoever was controlling the auto pen, that's who the president was.
00:14:42.000 So according to those emails back and forth, Mr. Zeintz was the acting president.
00:14:46.000 Because if he has the authority to say, I approve this, let's whip out the auto pen, then you've approved the pardon.
00:14:51.000 I was doing some quick math and I had to Google this one.
00:14:54.000 There are 84,000 seconds in a day.
00:14:56.000 All right.
00:14:57.000 So that was my starting point.
00:14:58.000 84,000 seconds in a day.
00:14:59.000 On that one day, he pardoned 1,500 people.
00:15:02.000 If he gave every one of those people one minute of time, that's 90,000 seconds.
00:15:09.000 And you cannot physically spend an entire day looking through those.
00:15:13.000 So they didn't even get one minute.
00:15:14.000 So if I have to like, if I'm president, they're like, you should pardon Tim Poole.
00:15:17.000 Let me see his file, right?
00:15:18.000 You got to, Tim Pool deserves at least a minute.
00:15:21.000 No, the American people deserve at least a minute of me as president reviewing whether or not I give Tim Poole a pardon.
00:15:27.000 He didn't even get that.
00:15:28.000 1,500 people were just freaking run through the machine and someone else just added their names to that.
00:15:34.000 And that is such a violation of everything we hold sacred that you're absolutely right.
00:15:38.000 They are all null and void.
00:15:40.000 And now those who are null and void are also should return to jail.
00:15:45.000 And if you were not in jail and you got one of the preemptive pardons, well, now you're up for criminal prosecution.
00:15:50.000 You know, I feel bad for that.
00:15:53.000 Like there's at least some people who the pardons are probably not that big a deal.
00:15:58.000 Maybe there's some like nonviolent offender and they were going to be, they were facing 10 years and Biden reduced it to time served after like six.
00:16:05.000 And it's like, well, they committed a crime.
00:16:06.000 They're bad, but you know, this is whatever.
00:16:08.000 And now it's like, you might have to go back.
00:16:10.000 Yeah.
00:16:10.000 The violent offenders that get pardons, I'm just like, send them back anyway.
00:16:13.000 Yeah.
00:16:14.000 I agree.
00:16:14.000 But imagine finding out that your pardon, which was promised, is being voided because Joe Biden was sleeping.
00:16:20.000 Because Joe Biden didn't pardon you.
00:16:22.000 Mr. Zeinz pardoned you.
00:16:24.000 There was no Joe Biden.
00:16:25.000 He doesn't have any.
00:16:25.000 There was no Joe Biden.
00:16:27.000 So just so we have a little bit more background, this Jeff Zeins guy, he's actually Joe Biden's chief of staff.
00:16:32.000 He was for two years, and he's held multiple different positions through the Obama and then earlier in the Joe Biden administration.
00:16:39.000 The reason that it's important that you go through each individual case is because you don't actually know.
00:16:44.000 Like there are details in each specific crime that lead to different things.
00:16:47.000 One of the more outlandish people that was granted clemency was the infamous kids for cash judge, this guy named, who was it?
00:16:55.000 Michael Conahan.
00:16:56.000 And he was this guy in one of the states who was getting kickbacks from jail.
00:17:00.000 So he would try to, he was encouraged to send more kids to jail at the time.
00:17:03.000 So he gave out these outrageous sentences.
00:17:05.000 So like things like this fall through the crack as a result of this.
00:17:08.000 I think it's also fascinating how this is for a Democrat pretty much political malpractice.
00:17:13.000 Like the Trump administration right now is struggling with a specific story.
00:17:17.000 Let's not mention it this soon in the episode.
00:17:19.000 But like while the Trump administration is struggling with that, this is the lead story for the New York Times.
00:17:24.000 So it's like, Joe Biden, you're too dumb to keep your mouth shut for like the Democrats' sake because now this is only red meat for the MAGA base, which Trump is struggling to, you know, keep fully on his side.
00:17:34.000 So this story is a perfect distraction for that, and it isn't going anywhere.
00:17:38.000 This is a story that the president was talking about for a long time.
00:17:41.000 And I also will mention, because I only today really learned what the auto pen literally was, because Shane mentioned something and told me to look it up.
00:17:48.000 I thought it was DocuSign.
00:17:49.000 I use DocuSign for all of my document signing needs, and it's this automatic thing online where I just click one button and it writes my signature.
00:17:55.000 No, this is like a physical contraption that moves with the strokes similar to the film.
00:18:01.000 And it moves.
00:18:02.000 It looks like Joe Biden.
00:18:04.000 Yeah, let me see if I can pull it up.
00:18:05.000 But like, why?
00:18:06.000 The timing is so fascinating.
00:18:09.000 Obviously, the former president has an ego, and he was trying to defend his legacy right now.
00:18:14.000 Dude, can I buy this?
00:18:15.000 We should get one.
00:18:17.000 You can buy one, sure.
00:18:18.000 Yeah.
00:18:19.000 It's like a 1970s CNC.
00:18:22.000 Yeah, but this is a process crime because this is kept in a room under lock and key and people need to go in and people need to get the paper.
00:18:29.000 And there are a lot of bad actors in this process.
00:18:32.000 And they are all, to a certain extent, culpable.
00:18:35.000 And you can't say, well, I was just following orders.
00:18:37.000 That doesn't fly anymore.
00:18:39.000 I just wanted to follow up on this Cash for Kids judge that I mentioned, Kids for Cash judge that I mentioned, because I do feel like it was significant.
00:18:46.000 Conahan's inclusion sparked harsh blowback, him being included and being given clemency.
00:18:51.000 Even Pennsylvania Democrat Governor Josh Piro criticized Biden for getting it absolutely wrong.
00:18:57.000 He said it created a lot of pain here in North Pennsylvania.
00:19:00.000 So this guy was convicted in 2011 of funneling juveniles to a for-profit detention center in exchange for more than $2 million in kicksbacks.
00:19:08.000 He was sentenced to more than 17 years in prison.
00:19:11.000 Many people would say that's not enough.
00:19:12.000 But the issue, again, with not reviewing closely is that scumbags.
00:19:19.000 America, I would like to introduce you to your president, circa 2021-25.
00:19:26.000 There you go.
00:19:28.000 We started investigating the Auto Pen stuff because there were so many climate executive orders.
00:19:34.000 It's drawing a butt.
00:19:36.000 What is it drawing?
00:19:38.000 Anyway, continue.
00:19:40.000 There were so many climate executive orders that just came out with a signature and that we never saw the president talk about it.
00:19:46.000 So probably the most egregious one was when Biden's Auto Pen said that we were banning the sale and the export of liquid natural gas.
00:19:54.000 And so, obviously, in the fossil fuel world, it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:19:56.000 The president's banning liquid natural gas?
00:19:59.000 Yep, banned.
00:20:00.000 Starting in January, it was banned.
00:20:01.000 And if you remember, Mike Johnson, as Speaker of the House, had an interesting exchange.
00:20:05.000 He said, I was talking to the president and I asked him, why did you ban LNG?
00:20:10.000 And he said, I didn't do that.
00:20:11.000 And he was like, yeah, Mr. President, you did.
00:20:13.000 And at the time, that was understood as, wow, Biden is in such bad shape.
00:20:17.000 He doesn't even remember.
00:20:18.000 But then we realized as an organization, we were like, oh, no, no, he didn't even know he did it.
00:20:22.000 Like the crazy Greens in the White House were like, let's ban LNG.
00:20:25.000 And they were like, damn, here's the auto pen.
00:20:27.000 They put it through.
00:20:28.000 So we came up with a whole series of executive orders on climate, banning drilling in the Arctic, banning drilling in the outer continental shelf.
00:20:36.000 That we were like, Biden never spoke about this in first person.
00:20:39.000 Now, not everyone makes as big gestures as President Trump, right?
00:20:42.000 He holds them up and everyone sees.
00:20:44.000 But to have the president ban the sale of natural gas and never get asked about it, never talk about it, never get questions by the press, we were like, this guy doesn't know what the hell's happening.
00:20:54.000 So there's a lot of those happening quickly, and then you were like, we should look into this?
00:20:57.000 We found eight in particular that are huge.
00:21:00.000 And, you know, that bankrupted people's companies, right?
00:21:02.000 If you're selling natural gas and the White House announces it's now illegal to sell it, to export it, you're like, well, there goes the business.
00:21:10.000 We mortgaged the house.
00:21:11.000 Sorry, mom.
00:21:12.000 We're out of, you know, lives were ruined over this.
00:21:16.000 And all of our European allies bought Russian gas because we stopped selling American.
00:21:22.000 So they were like, who can be the mediary for Russian natural gas?
00:21:25.000 The Turks, which again, they're part of NATO.
00:21:27.000 Turkey was like, yeah, we'll be the mediary.
00:21:29.000 We'll buy it from Russia and we'll sell it to France and Germany and Italy.
00:21:33.000 So it created hell.
00:21:34.000 Of course.
00:21:35.000 Well, let's just add this to the mix.
00:21:36.000 Rand Paul saying, today I will resume, I'm sorry, reissue my criminal referral for Anthony Fauci to Trump DOJ.
00:21:43.000 So I want to read this portion, which is, this is from the New York Times story.
00:21:47.000 It says, at the January 19th meeting, which took place in the yellow oval room of the White House residence, Mr. Biden kept his aides until nearly 10 p.m. to talk through such decisions, according to people familiar with the matter.
00:21:58.000 The emails show that an aide to Mr. Siskel sent a draft of a summary to Mr. Biden's decision, of his Mr. Biden's decisions at that meeting to an assistant to Mr. Zeints.
00:22:07.000 So like, this is convoluted.
00:22:10.000 An aide to Mr. Siskel sent a draft of purportedly Mr. Biden's decisions to an assistant to Mr. Zeints.
00:22:20.000 Okay?
00:22:20.000 So these are two assistants talking to each other, copying Mr. Siskel at 1003.
00:22:25.000 The assistant forwarded to Mr. Reed and Mr. Zeintz asking for their approval and then sent a final version to Ms. Feldman.
00:22:32.000 Felden was the one who ran them through the auto pen, copying many participants.
00:22:36.000 Three minutes later, Mr. Zeinz hit reply all and wrote, I approve the use of AutoPen for the execution of all the following pardons.
00:22:44.000 This is why Rand Paul is saying Fauci for jail.
00:22:49.000 Not the full reason is because Fauci lied to Congress, but he's saying this is why the belief now is, and this is a senator saying this, the pardons are void.
00:22:58.000 They have to be void because Joe Biden didn't pardon them.
00:23:03.000 He pardoned the process.
00:23:04.000 And that's not the same as saying, I pardon you, right?
00:23:08.000 Like, I will come up with a structure.
00:23:10.000 That's not how, you know, this is where it's going to go to the courts.
00:23:13.000 Eventually, everything else goes to the damn courts.
00:23:15.000 I assume this will get litigated to a certain point.
00:23:17.000 But otherwise, what is the role of the president if it can be delegated to the staffers?
00:23:21.000 Then we don't have a president.
00:23:22.000 We have a figurehead.
00:23:23.000 Executive staffers do everything.
00:23:25.000 Wouldn't be the first time.
00:23:26.000 I think Autopen is clearly unconstitutional and should be banned.
00:23:30.000 No, it should be totally fine for like happy seventh birthday to Peter and Marsha.
00:23:35.000 Like that is allowed.
00:23:35.000 Like Autopen to sign Merry Christmas.
00:23:38.000 Banned that too.
00:23:40.000 That's what it's supposed to be used for.
00:23:41.000 That's a dick move.
00:23:42.000 That's what it's supposed to be used for.
00:23:44.000 Imagine, I still think it's a dick move.
00:23:46.000 So fine, I guess it's allowed.
00:23:48.000 But could you imagine if it's like your birthday and then you get a letter and it's like a signature and you're like, oh, well, thanks, Him.
00:23:53.000 And then someone comes and like, imagine then.
00:23:56.000 Someone came to me and said, Tim, you know that card you sent to Daniel for his birthday?
00:23:59.000 And I go, I didn't send him a card for his birthday.
00:24:01.000 That's exactly what happened with Joe Biden.
00:24:04.000 How many times did that happen?
00:24:05.000 And that's totally fine when you get 40,000 emails a day saying, can you send a letter to my mom for her birthday?
00:24:11.000 Of course, President Trump or President Biden is not going to sign up.
00:24:14.000 Like that means my Trump autograph stuff's not real.
00:24:16.000 But a lot of, well, that's why a real autograph is real.
00:24:19.000 And that's the problem.
00:24:20.000 Like, if you auto-penned Willie Mays' signature, this baseball is worth nothing.
00:24:25.000 We take them all to Pawn Stars now to get these verified?
00:24:27.000 Yeah.
00:24:28.000 So then it's an auto.
00:24:29.000 I mean, there's validity.
00:24:31.000 There's power in the signature.
00:24:32.000 And that's why you can't forge it.
00:24:34.000 That actually is funny.
00:24:35.000 Like, now that there's this auto-penned scandal, someone might go to Pawn Stars and be like, I have this photo of Joe Biden with Richard Nixon signed by Joe Biden.
00:24:45.000 Like, was it?
00:24:48.000 Was it really?
00:24:49.000 I think one of the problems that the Trump administration ran into with another story was over-promising and under-delivering.
00:24:57.000 And the political cynic in me suggests that the same thing is going to be happening here.
00:25:01.000 I don't suspect that anybody who actually received a pardon is going to have it withdrawn or whatnot.
00:25:06.000 I don't actually think that Fauci is going to face justice in any real way.
00:25:11.000 So while the optimist in me, I mean, no, I'm purely cynical.
00:25:14.000 I don't think this is actually going anywhere.
00:25:16.000 And I feel like we're being, you know, this is just a story to help calm the base down.
00:25:21.000 I hope you're wrong.
00:25:22.000 I know this is coming from the time.
00:25:24.000 Are you saying over the Epstein stuff?
00:25:26.000 I'm saying they over-promised and under-delivered for the Epstein stuff, and they could learn from that by not over-promising and under-delivering in the case here for the party.
00:25:34.000 Real quick, can you name a story where the Republicans under-promised and overperformed?
00:25:43.000 No, I mean, it's in the politicians' nature to, but I mean, it's really biting the administration in a recent story, in the Epstein case story.
00:25:50.000 And now I think it's going to bite them when none of this comes to fruition in the future.
00:25:54.000 Because, again, I don't think Fauci is going to face any real justice.
00:25:57.000 Agreed.
00:25:58.000 But I don't think the New York Times wrote this to appease the base of Trump.
00:26:01.000 I do think there's a catastrophe, a crisis in the Epstein story for which there's no way they make it go away.
00:26:08.000 And it's really silly now.
00:26:10.000 I think, what was it, Charlie Kirk was saying?
00:26:13.000 Did he talk to Trump?
00:26:13.000 Is that what happened?
00:26:14.000 Let's put it allegedly in there.
00:26:16.000 Allegedly, he gave him a phone call and was upset, especially with how much talk of Epstein was going on at Trump SAC.
00:26:23.000 We'll get into the, I don't want to go too hard on that stuff now because we do have some stories to pull up there.
00:26:27.000 I just, the New York Times clearly wrote this story to cover up for Biden.
00:26:32.000 That's why the headline of the story is, Biden says he signed off on these pardons.
00:26:37.000 Because when you actually go through it, the New York Times, this is what they do.
00:26:40.000 They're front-loading the story.
00:26:42.000 So your average person sees the headline, reads the first paragraph, and says, so Biden approved it.
00:26:47.000 But if you actually read the whole way through, you're like, wait a minute.
00:26:50.000 Now, just real quick, why would the New York Times write their story this way?
00:26:54.000 Instead of just giving me a succinct one-paragraph intro, Republicans are investigating the pardons that Joe Biden issued because they're arguing that AutoPen is illegitimate.
00:27:05.000 Aides and staffers ran these pardons through AutoPen without Joe Biden's approval.
00:27:11.000 End of story.
00:27:12.000 The New York Times wrote this to cover for Democrats, not to shift the narrative off of, I don't think the New York Times was like, let's collude to help Trump.
00:27:20.000 Should turn it around on Trump at some point.
00:27:22.000 Much auto pen use, you know?
00:27:24.000 Yeah.
00:27:25.000 If there was, I think there probably was.
00:27:27.000 There was, but I think this term, Trump has not used it.
00:27:29.000 Not this term.
00:27:30.000 Because he's signing everything with those big markers.
00:27:33.000 Except for birthday cards and Christmas credit cards.
00:27:36.000 But my only hope on the Fauci thing is I think Senator Rand Paul has such personal animus for him that I think he, the Trump administration separately, you may be right, like they may overpromise and under deliver.
00:27:51.000 But I think Senator Rand Paul has such personal, they had such nasty exchanges and he's a doctor.
00:27:57.000 He felt like he was questioned as a doctor.
00:27:59.000 So I'm kind of hoping Rand Paul is like a pit bull with this and just goes after it nice.
00:28:04.000 I think he has every reason to try to get back into the good graces of the MAGA folk because he voted against the president's big beautiful bill and has been getting a lot of heat from that.
00:28:13.000 Maybe I just look at politics in a much more zero-speaking way.
00:28:16.000 I think this definitely would help him because he's posturing on an issue that he aligns with on the MAGA base.
00:28:22.000 But this is the same guy who said he doesn't want to use the military on illegal immigrants to help ICE in any capacity.
00:28:28.000 I think he's against mass migration and he's against the Trump agenda that he tried to pass in Congress.
00:28:33.000 But the Fauci thing is one of the biggest stories that we need major accountability for.
00:28:38.000 Sure.
00:28:38.000 If by accountability...
00:28:42.000 Donald Trump.
00:28:43.000 Donald Trump shut down the, he was the president.
00:28:45.000 Oh, Donald Trump's got other issues I wasn't doing.
00:28:48.000 Trump shut down.
00:28:49.000 Trump proposed the shutdown for two weeks.
00:28:51.000 The states shut down each of their individual states.
00:28:53.000 Some were open, some were closed.
00:28:54.000 And Fauci was the figurehead of the destruction.
00:28:56.000 Fauci was advising it, and Fauci was working on gain of function research, which he lied about to Congress, to the Senate.
00:29:03.000 That's why Rand Paul saying, lock him up, because he lied.
00:29:05.000 And Newsweek headline.
00:29:08.000 They tried to be very nice when they said he was like, what do they say, untruthful comments made?
00:29:12.000 And NIH just changed the definition of gain of function, right?
00:29:16.000 And they were like, well, we just changed it.
00:29:17.000 So no, we weren't doing that.
00:29:18.000 Look at our new definition on our new website, which was released a couple hours ago before I testified.
00:29:24.000 Love how that works.
00:29:26.000 Always just change the names of everything, you know?
00:29:29.000 All of these guys need to be brought to testify in front of Congress.
00:29:32.000 Yeah.
00:29:33.000 The chief of staff and then all the people who are involved in these emails should all be dragged in front of Congress.
00:29:38.000 And all this should happen before the midterms so the Republicans will still have the majority when it happens.
00:29:43.000 I'm wondering, you know, one of the things too, especially, which we'll get into in a little bit more, but how Democrats are just so like pro-Epstein release now.
00:29:52.000 And I'm like, guys, the challenge I see now, because we mentioned Charlie Kirk saying, I'm going to trust my friends on this one.
00:29:58.000 It's like Democrats did not care at all under Biden.
00:30:02.000 They were just not going to bring it up.
00:30:04.000 And now that Trump promised to do it, but isn't, they're acting like it's the biggest scandal ever.
00:30:10.000 I just don't believe them.
00:30:11.000 Of course you don't.
00:30:12.000 Well, I think the president put it succinctly in one of his Truth Social posts where he said if there was anything damning related to MAGA or himself, the Biden and Merrick Garland would have, you know, the Biden administration and Merrick Garland definitely would have released it.
00:30:24.000 Why would they have held on to it?
00:30:26.000 Anything relating to Trump, just because the president had some picture with Jeffrey Epstein is why I think Democrats are trying to advance it.
00:30:31.000 I also think Democrats and leftists notice the fissure in MAGA as a result of this, and they will try to push and exploit this as much as they can.
00:30:40.000 I think, although there is some there there to the Epstein story, I think every cynic, every person who's critical of the MAGA agenda will use it to try to create more fissures and exploit that fissure.
00:30:51.000 Yeah, it's the same they do with Elon, right?
00:30:53.000 As soon as they see something that is splitting the MAGA movement where people are taking sides, the Democrats pile on because they want to exacerbate that fissure.
00:31:01.000 Well, Elon was disgusting about this.
00:31:03.000 Elon was giving this more credence that the president allegedly had a business with Epstein that completely didn't exist.
00:31:08.000 So it's like, even if somebody like Elon is willing to, you know, throw mud on the president's name and slander him like that.
00:31:16.000 I got an idea.
00:31:17.000 Can we find someone whose last name is Epstein?
00:31:21.000 There was a guy on Apple.
00:31:24.000 His name was Jeffrey R. Epstein.
00:31:26.000 And someone quote tweeted him and said that R is holding up the weight of the world.
00:31:29.000 That's great.
00:31:30.000 It's like, if my last name was Epstein, because it's a common last name, I would create my top 10 newsworthy individuals of the week list.
00:31:44.000 And that way I could tweet, here's who's on the Epstein list.
00:31:47.000 And then you start putting people's names on it.
00:31:49.000 You can't sue you for defamation.
00:31:51.000 There's a famous Hollywood reporter, Kevin McCarthy.
00:31:54.000 And when McCarthy became speaker, that was like the running joke that he'd be like, seriously, guys, wrong McCarthy.
00:31:59.000 He's covering Brad Pitt's newest movie.
00:32:01.000 And he would see all this F you.
00:32:04.000 I was like, I'm not that Kevin McCarthy.
00:32:06.000 So we could do that with the Jeffrey Epstein.
00:32:10.000 Put out a casting call for a Jeffrey Epstein.
00:32:14.000 Hey, we'll make a website, Epstein's List.org.
00:32:17.000 There's a politician.
00:32:19.000 It'll be like to find local services to help you out.
00:32:22.000 Yeah.
00:32:22.000 Someone just ran in New York with an Epstein name.
00:32:25.000 I've met other Daniel Turners.
00:32:26.000 Oh, that name's kind of boring as hell.
00:32:28.000 There's a lot of them.
00:32:28.000 So it has a lot of them.
00:32:30.000 Let's jump to this next story from Newsweek.
00:32:32.000 Los Angeles to give cash assistance to immigrants impacted by Trump raids.
00:32:37.000 I love immigrants impacted.
00:32:42.000 Who is Trump targeting in these raids?
00:32:44.000 Are they just immigrants or are they perhaps a subcategory of immigrants?
00:32:48.000 Giving cash to illegals that invaded our country.
00:32:51.000 Newsweek says, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass announced a new initiative to provide direct cash assistance to immigrants impacted by the Trump admins ongoing immigration raids.
00:32:58.000 The funds will be distributed as cash cards valued at a couple hundred dollars each and is expected to become available in the next week.
00:33:04.000 They say President Trump has vowed to carry out the largest mass deportation in U.S. history.
00:33:09.000 The GOP's flagship immigration policy to Trump is causing people to avoid going to work and fears over workplace raids.
00:33:14.000 California has become one of the key battleground states for immigration.
00:33:17.000 So hold on there a minute.
00:33:18.000 So the cash assistance is intended for families directly impacted by the raids.
00:33:22.000 Mayor Bass highlighted the example of a family that faced potential eviction after one of its primary earners was detained by immigration authorities.
00:33:29.000 Was this individual perhaps legally detained under a warrant of some sort, perhaps for being an illegal immigrant?
00:33:35.000 The program will be funded through private donations rather than city funds.
00:33:39.000 Immigrant rights organizations, including the Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights in Los Angeles, will handle the distribution of cash cards.
00:33:45.000 According to the mayor's office, the city will coordinate efforts between donors and distribution partners, though specific eligibility criteria have not yet been announced.
00:33:52.000 They're going to say Bass likened the initiative to Angelino Cards program during the pandemic.
00:33:58.000 The cash cards announced coincided with the new executive order signed by Bass directing all city departments to strengthen training and policies, ensuring compliance with LA's sanctuary city law.
00:34:07.000 Okay.
00:34:09.000 Now y'all know, I pointed this out at the beginning of the show, we've had many people come on the show and say treason.
00:34:15.000 They say Comey committed treason because he called Trump a Russian.
00:34:18.000 That's not treason.
00:34:20.000 Sedition is when you try to undermine, overthrow, or obstruct the government.
00:34:24.000 So what we saw with Trump being falsely charged and the Russia Gate conspiracies and the false impeachments, that's seditious conspiracy.
00:34:32.000 Individuals of this country are seeking to undermine this country's government.
00:34:36.000 Treason is defined as this.
00:34:39.000 Whoever owing allegiance to the United States levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason.
00:34:48.000 I want to pull this up.
00:34:51.000 Is guilty of treason and shall suffer death or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title, but not less than $10,000 and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
00:35:06.000 This is codified in U.S. law.
00:35:08.000 So let me just ask the basic question.
00:35:11.000 We'll start here.
00:35:12.000 Trump invokes 18th century law declaring invasion by gangs to speed mass deportations.
00:35:18.000 Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a sweeping wartime authority that allows the president broader leeway on policy and executive action to speed up mass deportations of people, potentially pushing his promised crackdown.
00:35:30.000 This is from March 15th.
00:35:32.000 Trump has federalized the National Guard in California because of riots, and he sent in the Marines to protect federal buildings as they were conducting immigration raids at L.A. Recently, the Trump administration raided several marijuana farms.
00:35:45.000 Let me pull this one up.
00:35:46.000 This is very important.
00:35:47.000 Miners, pot farms.
00:35:50.000 I bet pot farm probably won't do it, but here we go from the BBC.
00:35:54.000 Hey, the BBC is a source, right?
00:35:56.000 Okay.
00:35:57.000 Liberals are going to say it doesn't count.
00:35:59.000 Miners among suspected illegal immigrants detained after clash at California Farm.
00:36:04.000 What kind of farm was it?
00:36:06.000 The marijuana farm.
00:36:07.000 You see, they keep omitting that.
00:36:08.000 Now, hold on.
00:36:10.000 Let me just ask the panel a basic question.
00:36:12.000 Do you think these miners, illegal immigrants, came to this country of their own volition?
00:36:18.000 No.
00:36:19.000 Do you think they are working on a pot farm by choice?
00:36:21.000 No, no.
00:36:22.000 What do we call it when people are brought somewhere and then forced to work against their will?
00:36:25.000 Slaves.
00:36:26.000 And we call it trafficking.
00:36:28.000 So what Trump and the CBP has likely uncovered, and I ask because I think it's unanimous, when children are brought here to work on farms against their will, we call that child trafficking and slavery.
00:36:39.000 Karen Bass is providing funding to the individuals impacted by this.
00:36:45.000 With that being said, is it fair to say that she is adhering to our enemies and giving them aid and comfort within the United States?
00:36:52.000 Yes.
00:36:53.000 I think it's clearly you made a great deductive argument right there.
00:36:57.000 So I'm not going to, look, when people hear the word treason, they imagine a, you know, we've had these stories recently where like someone in the Air Force went to Russia and gave them classified documents or something.
00:37:08.000 There was actually someone who worked for the director, the DIA, was it, what is that department called?
00:37:14.000 Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:37:15.000 There you go.
00:37:16.000 There you go.
00:37:16.000 And he was coordinating with what he thought was a foreign ally of the United States, and he was providing them with classified information in exchange for potential citizenship, but they were not an enemy of the United States.
00:37:28.000 So they, I don't think they even charged him with espionage.
00:37:30.000 In this instance, we have a very interesting circumstance.
00:37:34.000 I'm not going to pretend like this is somebody selling nuclear secrets to Russia, which is like the epitome of treason, or during a war, going and joining, like, let's say right now, they went and started aiding and abetting ISIS or like ISIS care, whatever it's called, and Hamas and Iran.
00:37:50.000 That would be like, oh, wow, they're waging war against us, having war against us.
00:37:54.000 I would say Karen Bass has put her foot just slightly over the line of where it would be legally defined as treason because Donald Trump has already said these narco gangs and cartels are invading our country, many at the behest of foreign adversaries, and we have to deport them.
00:38:12.000 We know, or I should say it is reasonable to conclude, at least Trende Aragua, that makes a lot of sense, that Venezuela released prisoners from their prisons and sent them out saying, go disrupt other places, go to the United States, why don't you?
00:38:24.000 That's Trump's argument.
00:38:26.000 Right now, you have this scenario.
00:38:28.000 Regardless of what you think of Trump, the federal government has asserted there is an invasion on the southern border.
00:38:34.000 Blanket statement.
00:38:36.000 Maybe not a legal one.
00:38:37.000 I don't know.
00:38:38.000 There is a alien enemy invasion under the 1979, 17, I'm sorry, 1798 Alien Enemies Act that, yes, Trende Aragua is an invasive force.
00:38:50.000 Now, we don't know exactly who is running these pot farms, but the BBC is even reporting children were working on these farms.
00:38:57.000 I think it's fair to say these people who are not Americans Are an enemy of this country because I don't think anyone in this country is going to argue that it's lawful to have child slaves.
00:39:05.000 Karen Bass providing, aiding, and abetting these individuals is adhering to our enemies.
00:39:13.000 300,000 kids went missing over the border while Biden was in charge.
00:39:17.000 I'm putting in quotes for those listening.
00:39:19.000 I'm sure some of those kids are wound up on that farm and farms like it.
00:39:24.000 This is like a slow death of a state that she is accelerating with her, like Tim was saying, the foot on the pedal.
00:39:30.000 But I think she helped burn down that state.
00:39:33.000 She was just gone.
00:39:34.000 Totally mismanaged the fires in L.A. So the reason I bring this up is because, and again, I want to stress, I always tell people it's not treason.
00:39:43.000 You can't say that.
00:39:44.000 Don't say it's treason.
00:39:45.000 I imagine the Barbary, the Barbary Wars.
00:39:48.000 Jefferson, I believe it was, was negotiating with North Africa and saying, like, stop your people from doing this.
00:39:55.000 And they basically said, you're infidels.
00:39:57.000 We can do what we want.
00:39:58.000 And he said, okay, we're making the Marines and we're going to go in and we're going to crush you.
00:40:02.000 The Barbary pirates are pirates.
00:40:05.000 They are not necessarily of a government.
00:40:08.000 That's what a pirate is.
00:40:09.000 It's a privateer.
00:40:11.000 If there were, say, during the Barbary Wars, if you went and aided a pirate vessel attacking the U.S. Marines, that was legal treason.
00:40:21.000 Treason doesn't have to be a nation state.
00:40:24.000 It is just the declared enemy of the United States.
00:40:26.000 So this is, admittedly, I would call it being on the line because I'm sure some might argue, no, no, no.
00:40:33.000 She's not directly aiding Trende Aragua.
00:40:35.000 She's indirectly trading.
00:40:37.000 I'm sorry, aiding.
00:40:38.000 She's indirectly aiding narco gangs and Trende Aragua with the action she's taking.
00:40:43.000 We don't know for sure that she is, but it seems highly likely that she is.
00:40:46.000 In the event that the Trump administration discovers anybody who received one of these cards is MS-13, Trende Aragua, or Sinaloa or any of these other cartels, that there is objective, done, redline treason.
00:41:01.000 So I try to be careful.
00:41:04.000 The question then becomes, is there political will for Donald Trump or anyone in government to actually go against these sanctuary policies?
00:41:11.000 I think the answer is no.
00:41:13.000 The question then becomes, to be completely honest, is enforcing sanctuary policy in general just treason?
00:41:20.000 And I think the only way this is going to stop is when you get somewhere, the bare minimum argues for sedition.
00:41:27.000 There's no doubt these cards are going to end up in the hands of the narco-traffickers because the people who are working on these farms are indebted to them for getting them across the border.
00:41:36.000 The 15-year-old girls that are working on these farms are there to pay off the debt of someone else who owes the traffickers.
00:41:42.000 So if you are the nicest of people and you got the $500 card from Karen Bass's organization, ultimately the narco-trafficker is going to be like, I want the card.
00:41:52.000 We have a hard question that this country is facing right now.
00:41:56.000 BBC report.
00:41:57.000 Federal officials said a protester fired what looked like a pistol at federal agents.
00:42:03.000 Now, we were live when that broke.
00:42:05.000 We covered that story.
00:42:06.000 It was the third time in one week extremist factions were opening fire on federal law enforcement.
00:42:12.000 But if we were to say outright, what are the circumstances right now the U.S. is facing?
00:42:16.000 We've got narco gangs.
00:42:18.000 There's many of them in the United States.
00:42:20.000 Most people are familiar with Trende Aragua and MS-13, for instance.
00:42:23.000 They trade drugs.
00:42:23.000 They traffic people.
00:42:24.000 They smuggle.
00:42:26.000 You've got the cartels.
00:42:28.000 The cartels are much, much more serious, right?
00:42:31.000 The narco gangs might be involved in one or two political killings, but they're largely just gang killings, trafficking.
00:42:38.000 The cartels actively are killing wave-after wave of politicians in Mexico, and they do operate on our southern border smuggling drugs.
00:42:45.000 We have a crisis in this country with these elements.
00:42:49.000 We are trying to stop them.
00:42:50.000 The American people voted for Donald Trump to stop them.
00:42:54.000 Sanctuary cities, Democrat politicians are seeking to abet all these illegal immigrants.
00:43:02.000 At what point now with three ambushes, I shouldn't say that there was an ambush, but two ambushes on cops, two cops shot.
00:43:11.000 And now this.
00:43:12.000 At what point is Trump going to have to say there is an enemy in the United States attacking us, seeking to kill our law enforcement in violation of the voter base who voted in a Republican majority in the House, Senate, presidency, and because of Trump's first term, the Supreme Court?
00:43:31.000 Clearly, immigration is something people want done.
00:43:35.000 At some point, the question is going to have to be posed, do we actually treat this as enemies in the United States attacking us?
00:43:40.000 Yes.
00:43:40.000 He needs to be more aggressive.
00:43:42.000 I think we only have 100,000 deportations so far.
00:43:44.000 Barack had 2.5 million.
00:43:46.000 But let's compare those.
00:43:47.000 Barack, those are turnarounds.
00:43:49.000 The Obama deportations was largely captured at the border and pushed back.
00:43:53.000 And never before had we seen the kind of raids that Trump is doing where he's going into Los Angeles.
00:43:58.000 He did use ice raids, though.
00:43:59.000 Obama did.
00:43:59.000 He definitely used ice raids.
00:44:00.000 They weren't like Trump.
00:44:01.000 They're not like this.
00:44:02.000 Well, they need to be more aggressive.
00:44:03.000 And I don't think we should wait for something to pop off, like someone to get hurt again for him to be like, okay, now's the time.
00:44:08.000 This is the question that I brought up last week.
00:44:11.000 And I'll ask you, Shane.
00:44:12.000 What do you think would happen if Abraham Lincoln did not react to the session of seven states?
00:44:16.000 Daniel, what do you think?
00:44:17.000 Yeah, well, exactly.
00:44:19.000 Along those same lines, the congressman that happened yesterday, Carbajal, I don't know if you saw this.
00:44:26.000 I saw it earlier on the news.
00:44:27.000 Congressman Carbajal was trying to stop an ICE deportation, and he asked the ICE official for his card, and he gave it to him, and he took his business card and showed it to the media on camera, read out the guy's name, read out his information.
00:44:40.000 And people are saying, how do you not arrest Congressman Carbajal?
00:44:43.000 Like, you doxed an ICE official, and you said, I'm a member of Congress.
00:44:46.000 I want your card.
00:44:47.000 Here's my card.
00:44:48.000 Now I'm going to share it with the American people.
00:44:50.000 Well, the challenge there is insanity.
00:44:53.000 Scummy but not illegal.
00:44:54.000 Right.
00:44:54.000 Scummy but not illegal.
00:44:55.000 The reason I brought up the Lincoln thing is, I think it's fair to say.
00:44:58.000 So the history is Abraham Lincoln wins the election.
00:45:02.000 Immediately, seven states declare secession.
00:45:05.000 Just seven.
00:45:06.000 And Abraham Lincoln's not even president yet.
00:45:08.000 He gets in and says, we will not let the Union break apart.
00:45:12.000 And so you get first the Battle of Fort Sumter.
00:45:15.000 The Union refuses to pull their troops out of Fort Sumter in South Carolina.
00:45:19.000 So that was, we call it the start, but the only person that died, I think, was an accident.
00:45:23.000 Then you get the first Battle of Bull Run, where the South mounts forces in Virginia and the Union loses.
00:45:29.000 At any point, Abraham Lincoln could have said, I am not engaging.
00:45:34.000 And if Abraham Lincoln said, well, I guess they seceded, you know what would happen?
00:45:37.000 No civil war.
00:45:39.000 Because the South wasn't invading the North.
00:45:41.000 The question then is right now: will Donald Trump.
00:45:47.000 The question is, will this escalate?
00:45:50.000 I'm sorry, like, they're already shooting at cops.
00:45:51.000 I don't know what the.
00:45:52.000 So we're there.
00:45:53.000 It's escalating.
00:45:54.000 Will Trump declare an insurrection and actually start shutting down these sanctuary cities?
00:46:00.000 If he doesn't, I think they win.
00:46:03.000 If he does, I think he wins and he would be Lincoln-esque.
00:46:06.000 Yeah.
00:46:07.000 I did hear him the other day say, if you get in the way of ICE vehicles making arrests, I'm instructing ICE agents to move in and arrest protesters that do so.
00:46:16.000 Indeed, but that's just saying.
00:46:18.000 I mean, sure.
00:46:19.000 You know, if you violate the law, we'll arrest you is a bare minimum.
00:46:24.000 The question is the degree of charges.
00:46:26.000 And Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus without the authority of Congress.
00:46:30.000 That's unconstitutional.
00:46:32.000 Retroactively, they claimed he was allowed to do it, setting a precedent that hypothetically in a wartime, this is the president Lincoln set that everyone cheered for.
00:46:39.000 Trump could suspend habeas corpus and then say, all that needs to happen is Congress at any point just agree.
00:46:49.000 I can do it when I feel like it.
00:46:50.000 That's what Lincoln did.
00:46:51.000 And that's the point he was making before about illegal immigration.
00:46:55.000 I think, you know, Abraham Lincoln arrested the Maryland legislature.
00:46:59.000 I'm sorry, a third of them.
00:47:00.000 These are huge, unconstitutional moves made by a president who decided he was going to send the troops down and maintain the integrity of the Union, which we'd celebrate him for.
00:47:09.000 So I don't think he's still Democrats.
00:47:11.000 I don't think he was a tyrant.
00:47:12.000 He doesn't need to go that Democrat yet.
00:47:14.000 I don't think he wants war.
00:47:16.000 I think the president now, he needs Pam Bondi to go hard after the 10 protesters who were involved in the attack in one ICE facility.
00:47:23.000 I believe the Korean man who shot one ICE officer, he's wanted right now and they're on the lookout for him.
00:47:28.000 The president just finished passing the one big, beautiful bill that is going to increase funding to ICE.
00:47:32.000 But having said all that, I've been monitoring my backgrounds in fields reporting, and I suspect that this will be the next big leftist liberal movement in our country.
00:47:41.000 I've been monitoring all the lefty pages on Instagram, Twitter, and throughout social media.
00:47:45.000 They call for violence against ICE cops regularly.
00:47:48.000 And as I continue to monitor them, they're becoming more and more well organized.
00:47:52.000 What does that mean?
00:47:53.000 That means they are going to organize and call for more protests as ICE workplace enforcements are happening, as workplace raids are happening.
00:48:03.000 They're looking to flood the zone with different protesters and rioters.
00:48:06.000 And I think that's what we're going to see a lot more of moving forward.
00:48:10.000 Yeah.
00:48:10.000 And I think every couple of years, the left needs their organizing a principle, whether it's Occupy Wall Street, whether it's Black Lives Matter, whether they always have to have something to galvanize them.
00:48:23.000 And this could be the new one, right?
00:48:24.000 Headed into the midterms, headed into, you know, it's summer.
00:48:27.000 I'm surprised it's not happening now.
00:48:29.000 But the crazy left, the Antifa faction of the left, they need something to rally around.
00:48:34.000 I'm just happy Israel-Palestine season's over.
00:48:36.000 Which officially and you know you have to thank for that.
00:48:41.000 But the poor climate.
00:48:42.000 Absolutely.
00:48:43.000 I was going to say, no, I've seen it.
00:48:45.000 Just who are emboldened.
00:48:46.000 That's the number one thing on the Donald Trump agenda has been mad's deportations, and they're delivering on what they pay for.
00:48:51.000 But imagine if you were a true climate believer.
00:48:53.000 Like, what about the climate change people?
00:48:55.000 No one cares about it.
00:48:56.000 No one goes to their country.
00:48:57.000 Greta cares about Palestine, not about climate change.
00:49:00.000 Even Greta moved on.
00:49:00.000 She wanted to kill Israel.
00:49:01.000 I know she left climate.
00:49:04.000 Let's jump to this story from the postmillennial.
00:49:05.000 We've got this one from the post-millennial.
00:49:07.000 Illegal immigrants can be deported to third-party countries with as little as six-hour notice.
00:49:12.000 ICE memo says a new policy memo issued by ICE director Todd Lyons has stated U.S. immigration officials can now deport illegal immigrants to countries other than their own with minimal advance notice.
00:49:23.000 I say let's go.
00:49:24.000 Do they warn the other country?
00:49:26.000 Do they what?
00:49:26.000 They warn the other country?
00:49:28.000 What means?
00:49:29.000 We talked about this last a couple weeks ago.
00:49:31.000 Like South Sudan's got the lowest GDP in the world with it's like $390 per year.
00:49:37.000 So these illegal immigrants, they're going to boost the GDP of South Sudan.
00:49:43.000 They need it.
00:49:44.000 Well, I think the situation here is that many countries don't have agreements in place for us to deport their illegals back to their country.
00:49:50.000 So for example, like Venezuela won't accept the illegal Venezuelans that we try to send back there.
00:49:55.000 So I think the idea is instead of having to keep them here instead, because we can't send them back to Venezuela, we send them to a third-party country to not let them linger here in our country.
00:50:04.000 I agree.
00:50:05.000 The question ultimately now is, you know, in the previous segment, we were talking about Karen Bass giving money to illegal immigrants who are targets of federal law enforcement, which is aiding.
00:50:17.000 Like, it's one thing to aid and abet a criminal, someone robbed a bank, but these are not its citizens.
00:50:21.000 These are people that Trump is saying are invading us.
00:50:23.000 And the question is, if this money finds its way to Trende Aragua, to MS-13, to Sinaloa, to whoever else, this is treason.
00:50:30.000 She's aiding and abetting.
00:50:31.000 The question then becomes, does Trump need to go full Abraham Lincoln or will the Democrat resistance be so weak?
00:50:39.000 Albeit it is nuts, right?
00:50:40.000 They've already shot two cops.
00:50:42.000 There's been three shootings against law enforcement, but still they've not organized any meaningful way.
00:50:47.000 So does Trump need to escalate the law enforcement beyond what he's doing now?
00:50:52.000 My argument would be a little bit.
00:50:55.000 Not like he needs to declare a war and send in the Marines to take over California, but federalizing the National Guard.
00:51:02.000 And I do think he needs to start arresting Democrat politicians who are aiding and abetting criminal gangs.
00:51:09.000 We don't need to march to the sea, but he can go in and do some surgical stuff and just take care of the illegal.
00:51:14.000 Well, I think Karabash should be arrested at the bare minimum.
00:51:17.000 If they don't want to say it's treason because it's kind of on the line, if Trende Aragua got this cash, then she is doing that.
00:51:24.000 She's facilitating that.
00:51:25.000 But if it's just aiding the illegal, I'd say sedition.
00:51:29.000 I do believe right now the DOJ shouldn't waste any time.
00:51:33.000 They should absolutely charge.
00:51:36.000 However, I wonder if they're going to wait till after the midterms.
00:51:40.000 So Trump is done 2029, January 20th.
00:51:44.000 This is it for him.
00:51:44.000 He's going to walk out, and that's the end of game.
00:51:46.000 That's endgame for him.
00:51:48.000 He's going to, like his first term, this is what all politicians try to do, maximize the powers they have right now so that he gets the full four years.
00:51:55.000 So Trump says, play it light for now.
00:51:57.000 Do some of these raids.
00:51:59.000 Let's try and win the Midterms, after the midterms are over, full bore.
00:52:04.000 Because if the Democrats get the House again, it's going to be endless impeachments again, I think is what the president suspects, just like it was last time when he lost the House.
00:52:11.000 So he can take the actions now and then maybe lose the midterms, or he can take little actions now, try and win the midterms, and then go ham.
00:52:18.000 I think you got to do it now.
00:52:20.000 I agree.
00:52:20.000 Like, you got to save lives.
00:52:21.000 You got to help turn this country around.
00:52:23.000 You can't wait.
00:52:24.000 I think the assumption that you can win the midterms by waiting is wrong.
00:52:28.000 And I think the advantage that the president has is I think even in sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, blue areas, I think your average law enforcement officer is on board.
00:52:37.000 They're tired of having to fight with their own criminal element, let alone an illegal criminal element.
00:52:43.000 So I'm sure there are some lefty cops.
00:52:45.000 There's leftists everywhere.
00:52:46.000 But I would think that most of your LAPD will be thrilled to know that the president wants to help get rid of their criminal element.
00:52:53.000 And when Karen Bass is like, the LA police are going to blah, blah, blah.
00:52:57.000 Like, ah, we're not.
00:52:58.000 We're actually not.
00:52:59.000 So I wanted to prompt you guys on something that I hear a lot of Democrat politicians talking about.
00:53:03.000 And so at a lot of these workplace raids, at a lot of these outside of immigration courts where ICE agents are detaining illegal aliens, they're all masked up.
00:53:12.000 Some have, you know, different masks that they're wearing.
00:53:15.000 Clearly, they're to protect their identities.
00:53:16.000 Tom Homan cited something like a 700% increase in violence towards these agents as to why they're wearing their masks.
00:53:23.000 I believe that, obviously, in that there's been a lot of threats towards their families and there's been literally shootings at these ICE agents, even when they are wearing their masks.
00:53:32.000 This led to people like Rep Velasquez and Representative Dan Goldman introducing and others introducing different legislation to kind of ban masks on ICE agents.
00:53:41.000 I totally understand why they find it necessary to wear masks, but how do you guys feel about them wearing masks?
00:53:48.000 I think part of the narrative here is struggling because it looks sketchy when people with sometimes their badges hidden sometimes their face is completely covered I've covered Yeah.
00:54:01.000 No masks.
00:54:01.000 Yeah.
00:54:02.000 So what do you make of the administration's defense of ICE agents wearing masks, saying, you know, it's putting them in danger?
00:54:07.000 And then there are different activists who are doxing them, and it is happening.
00:54:10.000 I've seen it.
00:54:11.000 The arguments, I imagine functionally, imagine you're trying to recruit as many ICE as possible.
00:54:17.000 They've got this big budget increase.
00:54:18.000 And you say, but you can't wear a mask.
00:54:20.000 So they're going to see your face.
00:54:20.000 They're going to find out who you are.
00:54:21.000 They're going to post you on the internet and they're going to find your family.
00:54:24.000 Yeah.
00:54:24.000 Who's doing that?
00:54:26.000 So the reason I say no masks, though, is because if you can't rally and get the people you need, then you don't deserve to win.
00:54:35.000 It is simple as bringing those people in and giving them a rallying cry and saying, we will not wear masks.
00:54:44.000 We will not hide who we are.
00:54:46.000 We will not hide what we do.
00:54:49.000 We recognize they will try to kill us.
00:54:52.000 They will threaten us.
00:54:53.000 They will threaten everything we love.
00:54:54.000 But the founding fathers sacrificed blood, treasure, and family to create this nation.
00:55:01.000 And by God, we will do the same to save it.
00:55:03.000 And if you've got people who are like, I'm too scared, then you should not be here.
00:55:08.000 But I guarantee someone with the right charisma who's leading these guys is going to say, you don't need the masks.
00:55:14.000 And they're going to say, why not just have them?
00:55:16.000 Let them come.
00:55:18.000 Show the world who these people are when they make these moves.
00:55:21.000 And we will use the might of the U.S. government against the terrorists.
00:55:25.000 And the left is going to say, I don't care.
00:55:28.000 They're shooting cops.
00:55:29.000 We voted for this.
00:55:30.000 Trump won.
00:55:31.000 This is not fascism.
00:55:33.000 This is what the American voter asked Trump to do.
00:55:35.000 Do you remember in like the week leading up to the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill?
00:55:39.000 Democrats were taken to the floor with all the sob stories.
00:55:42.000 I want to tell about Juanita Gomez, who's nine years old and was born without a head, and she's going to lose her insurance because they were all the sob stories.
00:55:50.000 I haven't heard one sob story about these 14-year-olds who are working on a pot farm.
00:55:55.000 No one has come out and been like, let me tell you the story of, and this is who the Democrats are defending.
00:56:00.000 They're defending the child slave labor.
00:56:01.000 They're defending it.
00:56:04.000 Where is anyone coming out saying like, what is the life of a 15-year-old girl who works on a pot farm?
00:56:09.000 What is she doing tonight when she's done working?
00:56:11.000 Where is she sleeping?
00:56:12.000 How is she getting raped?
00:56:14.000 Why is the media saying slaves?
00:56:16.000 Why aren't the headlines saying slaves?
00:56:18.000 No advocates.
00:56:19.000 These little girls have no advocates.
00:56:21.000 The cartels have great advocates, but these little girls have no one fighting for them.
00:56:26.000 I will break it down like this.
00:56:28.000 Many of the migrant workers on these farms are not there by choice.
00:56:31.000 They're adults.
00:56:33.000 It's hard to prove.
00:56:34.000 You could maybe say they've indentured themselves to the cartels by saying, I agree to enter into a contract by which I'll work X amount of time for being smuggled into the United States.
00:56:45.000 I've gone to foreign, I've gone to, I'll just keep it kind of private because the people who are at this restaurant might know, but it was a non-American style of food and their employees appeared to be indentured servants.
00:56:58.000 And they got very mad when I pointed something like this out.
00:57:03.000 That's illegal.
00:57:04.000 You're allowed to do that.
00:57:05.000 Like if you live in, say, like China and you're like, I want passage to the United States, okay, we're going to have you work a debt off for us.
00:57:12.000 We don't do that in the United States.
00:57:13.000 The issue is that children cannot enter into these contracts.
00:57:17.000 Children cannot agree to be smuggled.
00:57:20.000 That's trafficking.
00:57:21.000 Children who are on a farm doing labor illegally in this country, kids aren't allowed to work on farms like this to the degree that they're having these people.
00:57:30.000 That would then be upgraded from indentured servitude to slavery because they don't have a choice.
00:57:35.000 And so here we are.
00:57:36.000 The question is, you know what I think it is?
00:57:38.000 I think it's because the American liberal think slavery is a black man in a field being beaten.
00:57:43.000 Yes.
00:57:43.000 They don't realize that slavery affected every level of American society from grocery stores to governments to building houses.
00:57:53.000 In the mind of the liberal, when you talk about slavery, they imagine it's a guy in a field.
00:57:58.000 But there were people who worked a blacksmith and he had slaves and the slave would make horseshoes.
00:58:04.000 Nobody was hitting him.
00:58:05.000 But that was not his choice.
00:58:06.000 He did not want to be there and they were enslaved.
00:58:09.000 I don't know why.
00:58:11.000 You could make all the assumptions.
00:58:12.000 I'll ask you guys in the comments, why won't the media admit these are child slaves?
00:58:17.000 The left only cares about children when they're dead from mass shootings, so they can use them as political cudgels.
00:58:22.000 To be fair, the past few they didn't want to talk about at all because of the identity of the shooters.
00:58:27.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:58:27.000 That's a big conflict for them, depending on the shooter and Who the victims are.
00:58:31.000 They have a tough time deciding on who the victims are.
00:58:32.000 Well, to be fair, Chicago has a mass shooting every weekend.
00:58:34.000 They never talk about it.
00:58:35.000 That's so weird.
00:58:36.000 At least according to the Googles, 388,000 slaves were taken to North America from Africa.
00:58:43.000 Joe Biden lost how many kids?
00:58:45.000 300,000-ish.
00:58:47.000 So Joe Biden was people taken from the U.S. to Africa?
00:58:51.000 Over 12 million were trafficked out of Africa, but 388,000 were brought directly to North America.
00:58:57.000 Again, according to the Googleses.
00:58:59.000 So Joe Biden trafficked more than 300,000 children in four years.
00:59:03.000 And this was over 200 years.
00:59:05.000 Joe Biden was the largest slave trafficker and sex trafficker in the history of the world.
00:59:09.000 You know what I'm going to do?
00:59:11.000 I think it is absolutely fair to say that children who are smuggled here did not make the choice and now having to work off a debt are being forced to do so.
00:59:20.000 I would call that trafficking and slavery.
00:59:22.000 But if we want to play the game the Democrats play about, oh, but they're asylum seekers.
00:59:27.000 Okay.
00:59:28.000 You're right, liberals.
00:59:30.000 These people in their home countries were threatened by gangs and had no choice but to leave.
00:59:35.000 Now, many of them smuggled here are forced to work on farms to pay off those debts.
00:59:40.000 So they were forced to do it, so they're all slaves?
00:59:43.000 If you want to argue these people weren't safe at home and had no choice but to flee, and now their only option was die or work on a farm, I'd call that slavery.
00:59:52.000 In which case, these people, Trump is liberating slaves.
00:59:55.000 So he is Lincoln.
00:59:59.000 We're getting there.
01:00:00.000 To be fair, that was my legal arguments.
01:00:02.000 I think the child slavery thing is 100% correct.
01:00:04.000 And I'm not really surprised.
01:00:06.000 No one in media is admitting that Trump found child slaves.
01:00:10.000 No.
01:00:10.000 No, it's just easier to say, you know, strawberry fields.
01:00:14.000 Right.
01:00:14.000 A congressman said that over the weekend.
01:00:16.000 They're picking up families working on strawberry fields, like when the pool family goes strawberry picking in spring, right?
01:00:23.000 Like mom and dad and kids.
01:00:25.000 And then Trump's masked guys with skulls are just beating children.
01:00:29.000 It's a level of evil that is hard to comprehend, and yet we have to pretend to have rational conversations.
01:00:36.000 It is.
01:00:36.000 Oh, it's purely demonic.
01:00:37.000 Purely demonic.
01:00:38.000 And Gavin Newsom with his slick back hair defending this, defending the cartels trafficking girls on pot farms, who, by the way, donated.
01:00:46.000 One of the biggest pot farms that was rated was a donor to his campaign, right?
01:00:49.000 Newsom?
01:00:50.000 Trump should shut the pot farms down.
01:00:52.000 I'm just, I'm so sick of the weakness.
01:00:57.000 Who did I have on?
01:00:58.000 We were on the culture war, and I said, this is why I'll never be in government.
01:01:01.000 And I can't remember.
01:01:03.000 We had Dr. Chloe, Dr. Drew, and Naomi Best.
01:01:05.000 And someone asked, like, why?
01:01:06.000 And I was like, no one would dare let me anywhere near that seat of power.
01:01:10.000 No.
01:01:11.000 I mean, I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me when I say, oh, is that child slave labor on your pot farm?
01:01:16.000 The federal government is federalizing, seizing it, and shutting it down.
01:01:18.000 Done.
01:01:19.000 Not to mention it's illegal federally anyway.
01:01:21.000 Now, I'm not an anti-weed guy.
01:01:23.000 I am not somebody who thinks it should be illegal.
01:01:26.000 I'm more of a regulate, more in the libertarian spectrum when it comes to a lot of drugs.
01:01:30.000 I don't want anybody doing them.
01:01:32.000 I just don't know if having a law that's not being enforced does anything.
01:01:36.000 But that being said, at the bare minimum, it's an illegal drug.
01:01:40.000 Okay, it's a federal government says it's illegal.
01:01:43.000 And they found child slaves.
01:01:44.000 How hard would it be to send one guy with a clipboard and be like, shut your farm down?
01:01:49.000 It's okay to be against a business that has child slaves.
01:01:51.000 Yes.
01:01:51.000 I don't care what the business is.
01:01:53.000 We give you permission, Democrats.
01:01:55.000 You are allowed to be opposed to child slavery.
01:01:58.000 But this is why they call Trump Derangement Syndrome, right?
01:02:00.000 Because if Trump did it, it has to be wrong.
01:02:04.000 So you start adopting positions that just absolutely make no sense.
01:02:07.000 It's when you have devout pro-Israel Jews Democrats coming out and being like, well, I oppose the Iran strike.
01:02:14.000 It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we can talk about that.
01:02:15.000 But you have 40 years on the record saying you would appreciate this.
01:02:19.000 It's like, but Trump did it, so therefore it's wrong.
01:02:21.000 Right.
01:02:22.000 Trump's arrangement syndrome is so sick that Democrats in California will defend slave labor on a pot farm.
01:02:28.000 Well, now, you know, when I talk about the escalation and threats of violence, there's a lot of people who have made posts.
01:02:35.000 One guy got, I think, like 10 million views saying, if masked men are kidnapping your family, you have a right to defend yourself.
01:02:42.000 And it's like, in the vaguest of contexts, if you're at home and a guy in a balaclava kicks your door and grabs your daughter, yes, everyone recognizes that.
01:02:50.000 But when there's duly sworn in law enforcement with an announced raid showing up with police vehicles and you're like, but they're wearing masks, you have no right to shoot those cops when you know they're engaged in lawful law enforcement activity.
01:03:04.000 But now I'm seeing more doofy liberal types saying the exact same thing.
01:03:09.000 This is the sentiment on the rise on the left, which I believe we will see more and more people ambushing and shooting at ICE.
01:03:16.000 We saw two groups, July 4th and July 7th, and then a few days later, some guy at one of these riots pulled out what appeared to be a pistol and appeared to be shooting at federal law enforcement.
01:03:26.000 Yeah, it's going to continue.
01:03:28.000 I feel like we've haven't, there's been a large increase in violence that's kind of been normalized and just been swept under the table, like that we forget about it after one new cycle happens.
01:03:36.000 So obviously there was the Luigi Mangioni stuff.
01:03:38.000 Recently, there was also in Minneapolis a couple of lawmakers that were shot.
01:03:43.000 We're obviously.
01:03:43.000 That was the Vance Butler guy.
01:03:45.000 We're obviously coming on the anniversary of the Trump shooting.
01:03:49.000 The Idaho guy going to the first responders.
01:03:53.000 And then multiple assaults or shootings against ICE officers.
01:03:56.000 Israel embassy thing.
01:03:58.000 Outside the non-stop.
01:04:00.000 The next day, it just seems like, oh, yeah.
01:04:02.000 But I don't know if that's just in my head, if we're noticing that more, but it seems as though we spend less time concerned on these acts of violence when they do happen.
01:04:10.000 And I think it is very concerning because I think we're going to see this continue, this trend continue.
01:04:15.000 Well, and then you hear nonsense politicians like Tim Waltz say, like, Democrats have to get nastier.
01:04:21.000 It's like, how much nastier do you need to get, right?
01:04:24.000 You have to actually take their skin off their face and reveal the lizard.
01:04:28.000 Starting with the Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up the congressional baseball game.
01:04:33.000 There really isn't a prominent act of political violence that has come from the right.
01:04:37.000 January 6th!
01:04:38.000 I know.
01:04:39.000 That's why they always have to go back to January 6th.
01:04:42.000 But not only will they murder you, but everybody on their partisan side will justify it.
01:04:46.000 I think that's one of the big issues, too.
01:04:48.000 I feel like back in the day, we used to come to a consensus where vigilante justice was bad.
01:04:52.000 But now, like, oh, if it supports my political ends, I do support it.
01:04:55.000 And I guess the reason why that's so concerning is because many people have many political beliefs that they hold with deep conviction.
01:05:02.000 But if we let people go down about vigilante justice, we'll end up in a really crazy place.
01:05:06.000 The thing I'm implying, by the way, is there are people right now who are pro-life who believe that there is a Holocaust going on within abortion clinics.
01:05:14.000 What does that make you justify in your beliefs and makes you believe you should be able to do in vigilante justice?
01:05:19.000 It is endless if you're justifying.
01:05:21.000 Hopefully, you don't want to take someone else's life if you're pro-life, but we should put an end to all those human sectors.
01:05:25.000 If you're justifying, yeah, go ahead.
01:05:28.000 Let's jump into this next story.
01:05:29.000 We have this from Mario Noffel breaking Rep.
01:05:31.000 Rokana.
01:05:32.000 I am demanding the release of the Epstein files.
01:05:35.000 Rep.
01:05:35.000 Rokana has introduced an amendment to demand the full release of the Epstein files.
01:05:39.000 Now, this is a Democrat who's doing this.
01:05:41.000 Let's play the tape.
01:05:42.000 Mr. Speaker, I introduced today an amendment demanding the full release of the Epstein files.
01:05:50.000 The Speaker's Rules Committee should demand a vote tomorrow of every member of Congress.
01:05:57.000 Yes, we should release it, or no, we should not.
01:06:01.000 This is a question of whose side are you on?
01:06:04.000 Are you on the side of protecting the rich and the powerful who've put their thumb on the scales of government to suck out millions of dollars while working-class Americans suffer?
01:06:16.000 Or aren't you on the side of the people?
01:06:19.000 The Attorney General said on her desk was the Epstein file.
01:06:23.000 And now she's saying, no, no, no, nothing to see.
01:06:25.000 Don't release it.
01:06:27.000 This is a question of trust.
01:06:29.000 We need to release the Epstein files so we can restore government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
01:06:35.000 And every member of Congress tomorrow should be forced to vote on this amendment.
01:06:42.000 So here's the conundrum, I suppose.
01:06:44.000 If this does go to a vote, I doubt it.
01:06:46.000 Who do you think votes yes?
01:06:48.000 I don't know that it would be Democrats.
01:06:51.000 Like, this is brilliant by RoCanna.
01:06:54.000 Shout out.
01:06:56.000 We do disagree on quite a bit, but he's the best the Democrats have.
01:06:59.000 I want the files released.
01:07:01.000 I don't care if Trump's in them.
01:07:03.000 If Trump's in them, I want them more.
01:07:04.000 How about that?
01:07:05.000 But Rep RoCanna saying this, Democrats are not all going to vote yes on it.
01:07:10.000 Republicans are not going to vote yes on it.
01:07:12.000 So it's not going to go to a floor vote at all.
01:07:15.000 So this is an interesting play that can't be played.
01:07:20.000 Yeah.
01:07:20.000 And Rokana represents Silicon Valley, and his office is getting a lot of phone calls right now from some pretty rich dudes who are like, hey, remember that contribution you asked for me?
01:07:29.000 How about you shut up about the damn Epstein files?
01:07:32.000 There's a lot of people in Silicon Valley who are probably a little too close to that file who don't want the thing released.
01:07:38.000 So I want the files released, but I also don't know why anyone should trust what we see when they're released.
01:07:45.000 That's the issue with all of the Epstein files, though.
01:07:47.000 It really speaks to how no matter what is released, you will never be satisfied unless it really confirms your beliefs.
01:07:53.000 I want the government to be turned inside out so we can decide.
01:07:56.000 And this is a step in the right direction.
01:07:58.000 RoCon is a cynical political clown.
01:08:00.000 He didn't do this during the Biden administration for a reason.
01:08:03.000 It's because he didn't give a shit.
01:08:05.000 He's only cynically using this as a ploy to be.
01:08:08.000 Oh, the man of the hour.
01:08:10.000 Mr. Gaines, who do I sign this checkout to?
01:08:13.000 Just pull that gentleman off the chair and take the chair.
01:08:15.000 It's all yours.
01:08:16.000 Myron made it.
01:08:17.000 Yeah, I did.
01:08:18.000 It was a lightning hold, wasn't it?
01:08:19.000 Yeah, it was, man.
01:08:20.000 I knew it.
01:08:21.000 I knew I used to work in the middle of the morning.
01:08:22.000 Make this dude move a puppet after being stuck on a plane.
01:08:26.000 Welcome to IRL.
01:08:27.000 Here's a puppet.
01:08:27.000 Dude, literally that's...
01:08:30.000 I was like, wait, there's no lightning.
01:08:32.000 What's going on here?
01:08:33.000 The lights, they flash on top, and that means no ground personnel can go on the ground.
01:08:37.000 Oh, yeah, dude.
01:08:38.000 We were there for like two hours.
01:08:39.000 Absolutely nuts.
01:08:40.000 Actually, it was the Jews that made me late.
01:08:42.000 Oh, yeah.
01:08:43.000 Iron, I was going to say, who do I write this?
01:08:46.000 Do you control the weather?
01:08:46.000 The books that you're doing are crazy.
01:08:48.000 Crazy Jews a lot specifically.
01:08:49.000 But we were just talking about Rokana has called for an amendment to be filed and voted on the floor tomorrow in Congress, releasing all the Epstein files.
01:08:59.000 Good.
01:09:00.000 I mean, you know, that was a huge blunder by the Trump administration was saying like, oh, yeah, nothing to see here, guys, especially when several members of the cabinet were saying like, yeah, we're going to release the files, whether it was Cash Patel, Bongino, JD Vance.
01:09:10.000 They'd all said this stuff on podcasts earlier.
01:09:12.000 So it looked really bad for them to just be like, oh, yeah, whatever.
01:09:15.000 And then even when Pam Bondi, you know, oh, it's on my desk.
01:09:18.000 You know, obviously she played it back.
01:09:19.000 She was like, oh, well, I was referring to the entire file.
01:09:21.000 I was referring to JFK and everything else, which, you know, you can get that plausible deniability, but it looked really bad.
01:09:26.000 And then I was listening in on what you guys were saying before with the mayor of LA and the trend Araguas and everything else.
01:09:33.000 The other thing also that could happen, I don't know if they would do this, but since they're labeled a terrorist organization now, you could use the full force of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, JTTF, and go after them for material support of terrorism.
01:09:46.000 And the reason why that would be good is because when you use the JTTF, you get a dedicated USA.
01:09:50.000 You can go ahead and get DOJ Main involved.
01:09:53.000 You get an enormous amount of resources when it comes to prosecuting these types of cases because I've done those national security cases before.
01:09:58.000 And when you involve the JTTF, it becomes a way bigger deal.
01:10:01.000 They should.
01:10:02.000 As for the Epstein files, there's something, you know, I have an interesting thought on this.
01:10:06.000 It's like Rokana, I like Rokana.
01:10:09.000 I disagree, but we came on the show, we had a discussion, and I see where he's coming from.
01:10:13.000 I've made this point with a lot of people on immigration.
01:10:16.000 People will always vote to protect themselves, their friends, and their families.
01:10:21.000 So Rokana, being the child of immigrants, is like, I want to protect immigrants.
01:10:25.000 Me as someone born American, and I mean, admittedly, my grandmother, or I'm sorry, my grandmother on my mom's side was an immigrant too, but my family is largely American.
01:10:35.000 So I'm like, I want to maintain the American tradition.
01:10:37.000 So I respect it.
01:10:39.000 That being said, if all the Democrats came out tomorrow and were like, yeah, release it.
01:10:44.000 I'd be like, wait a minute.
01:10:46.000 What are they, like, what's their play here?
01:10:48.000 Now, to be fair, okay, right.
01:10:51.000 I'm not going to tell them no, but I just, what is the Democrat motivation if they actually were to vote on it?
01:10:55.000 I don't trust them.
01:10:56.000 They've got fake files that have all their enemies on it.
01:10:58.000 Maybe.
01:10:59.000 Yep.
01:10:59.000 For the Democrats, it's just a distraction.
01:11:01.000 What if...
01:11:06.000 Okay, let me just start by saying I'm going to intersplice my sentences.
01:11:09.000 The Epstein files should be released, and if Trump is on them, good, release them even more.
01:11:14.000 But what if Democrats had, and I think Trump should be releasing his files, fake files that Trump, he should be releasing all the files, left behind so that if Trump or whoever came in and all the files, all the Epstein files need to be released, they would stumble upon and go, wait a minute, this is all fake.
01:11:35.000 And then it's like, release it.
01:11:36.000 And then the Democrats say, release it.
01:11:37.000 And you're like, that's a clever play.
01:11:42.000 Well, let's be honest here, right?
01:11:43.000 So like, as far as like the client list goes, we already know who a lot of his clients were, right?
01:11:47.000 You know, I've done a show with Ryan Dawson.
01:11:49.000 We talked about this.
01:11:50.000 You know, the thing is that, like, you know, the cool, sexy celebs, we already know who they are.
01:11:54.000 There's a lot of billionaires that no one knows about.
01:11:56.000 The real thing that's interesting is people want to know who do you work for?
01:12:00.000 Which component of Israeli intelligence do you work for?
01:12:02.000 You know, I think the former prime minister Naftali came out and said, oh, he didn't work for the Mossad or the Israeli government.
01:12:08.000 But, you know, other people were like Winnie Webb say that he worked for Oman, right?
01:12:11.000 The IDF's component.
01:12:12.000 So we'll see.
01:12:13.000 But I think the thing that's most important, Oman, they're basically, it's like their DIA.
01:12:18.000 Aman.
01:12:19.000 Oh, oh, that's the actual organization.
01:12:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:12:20.000 It's called Aman.
01:12:21.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.
01:12:22.000 It starts with A. A lot of people get, what are you talking about?
01:12:24.000 Yeah, it starts with A. Yeah, it's like a component of a small country of their IDF.
01:12:28.000 We know Epstein was friends with Ehud Barak, who is the former prime minister.
01:12:32.000 Yes, he got called up there a million times.
01:12:34.000 And Bongino himself said on this show, Middle Eastern intelligence, perhaps.
01:12:38.000 And everybody laughed when he said that.
01:12:40.000 Yeah, we all know which Middle Eastern country that is.
01:12:43.000 Okay.
01:12:44.000 But, you know, I think the real thing that people are interested in isn't necessarily like people say the client list.
01:12:48.000 We already know who's going to be on the list.
01:12:50.000 I think the thing people are most important, most interested in is, you know, who he was working for, what information he was collecting, why he was collecting, and how he was going about actually doing all this.
01:13:01.000 And I do think it's important for people to realize that when it comes to Epstein, I've talked about this a bunch, and I really want to kind of aware the audience on this.
01:13:07.000 So for those that don't know, because I'm like new here, I guess, with some of the people, I'm as a former special agent with Homeland Security Investigations, HSI.
01:13:14.000 So I had a Top Security Claretz and I dealt with high side stuff and law enforcement stuff.
01:13:17.000 And the thing with Epstein is obviously there's a criminal case on the human trafficking side, right, with what he did.
01:13:22.000 And then there's also the high side stuff about, you know, what he was doing when it comes to intelligence.
01:13:26.000 Now, the FBI is obviously going to have a file on him for the criminal side, but they're also going to have what we call the high side, which is going to have a file on all the classified stuff.
01:13:33.000 It's important to note that the FBI is only going to have stuff pursuant really more to domestic intelligence gathering that he was doing here.
01:13:40.000 But when it comes to foreign intelligence, that's going to be the CIA, right?
01:13:44.000 So I do think that, you know, we've been beating up Bongino and Pam Bondi and stuff for their blunders.
01:13:48.000 I get it, Cash Patel, valid criticisms.
01:13:51.000 But I do think we need to expand it.
01:13:53.000 If we want everything, we need to bring Tulsi Gabbard in because she's really going to have everything as a DNI because all the intelligence components, the IC community, are going to have slivers of all this stuff that Epstein was doing based on the fact that he was also working with a foreign government.
01:14:07.000 So the CIA is absolutely going to have a file.
01:14:09.000 NSA is going to have a file.
01:14:09.000 DIA is going to have a file, all these guys.
01:14:11.000 So I do think that we don't just need the FBI stuff.
01:14:14.000 We need the CIA stuff and NSA stuff, everything, because since we know this guy worked for foreign intelligence, FBI is not going to have everything.
01:14:21.000 What do you think the reason is for Trump saying nothing to see here, everyone move along?
01:14:26.000 You know, controversial take.
01:14:28.000 I think a big part of it is to protect Israel.
01:14:30.000 I think that Israel is in a country.
01:14:30.000 Is that the controversial part?
01:14:31.000 I feel like that's a less controversial take.
01:14:33.000 Well, let me tell you why.
01:14:36.000 I think the reason why is because right now Israel is in a very bad political space when it comes to approval, both internationally and the United States.
01:14:43.000 You know, people are being very critical of the country right now.
01:14:46.000 They're in a very sensitive time where I would say the next two years is going to dictate the landscape of the Middle East for a very long time.
01:14:51.000 And, you know, they want to attack Iran again.
01:14:54.000 You know, the ceasefire is BS.
01:14:55.000 They're going to absolutely do another phase of the conflict because for all intents and purposes, I think the United States and Israel lost this conflict.
01:15:01.000 And I can...
01:15:01.000 That's going to...
01:15:02.000 Can I ask you, what is the...
01:15:05.000 What evidence do you have that Jeffrey Epstein worked for Mossad?
01:15:09.000 Well, I mean, between the former prime minister going to his house as much as he did, he gave Ehud Barak, the former prime minister of Israel, $200 million for research when he even knows.
01:15:17.000 Bill Clinton worked closely.
01:15:20.000 They all did.
01:15:20.000 A lot.
01:15:22.000 You can't talk about Epstein without talking about Robert Maxwell, who was working with the Mossad as a part of a huge scandal, the Promise scandal in the 90s.
01:15:29.000 Didn't I say something about that?
01:15:31.000 That's Robert Maxwell.
01:15:32.000 Glann Maxwell's dad was embedded with the Mossad, but also the Soviets, also East Hunger Prime Minister.
01:15:38.000 I mean, it's a nuclear program.
01:15:39.000 But this isn't...
01:15:43.000 So Tucker Carlson's father worked for the CIA.
01:15:45.000 And that's also suspicious.
01:15:48.000 What's your argument?
01:15:49.000 My argument's second thing was true?
01:15:51.000 No, my argument is that just because you're the son of somebody or that you've been seen in this country.
01:15:58.000 So Donald Trump was seen with, again, Jeffrey Epstein, so was Bill Clinton.
01:16:03.000 Donald Trump used to hang out on Robert Maxwell's boat with the city.
01:16:05.000 You could make the same argument that you're making for Jeffrey Epstein working for Mossad that he worked for CIA.
01:16:11.000 Do you think Saudi Arabia makes more sense as the Middle Eastern intelligence agency that he was working with?
01:16:15.000 So I'm going to pull a Charlie Kirk, and I actually believe that the president is handling this properly.
01:16:19.000 And if there was any, he's actually Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi over-promised and under-delivered.
01:16:31.000 That's the real issue here.
01:16:32.000 And now they're handing it to one another like a hot potato.
01:16:35.000 Pam Bondi brought in all the influencers to make them all look really stupid.
01:16:39.000 And then she said, wait, let me finish.
01:16:42.000 And then she said, oh, gee, whiz, I didn't get enough info.
01:16:44.000 Wait, let me go ask Cash Patel from the FBI for more stuff.
01:16:47.000 All right, but she's trying to dump it onto him.
01:16:49.000 Let me ask for Shane.
01:16:50.000 I agree that was.
01:16:51.000 Let me ask you.
01:16:51.000 I agree that.
01:16:52.000 Do you think they kept the files and still had them sitting around knowing Trump was coming in it?
01:16:57.000 Well, again, I think if we're only going to look at the DOJ and FBI, we're only getting a slice of the pie.
01:17:03.000 I think that this is way bigger, and we need to bring the entire intelligence community in based on the nature of the type of intel he was working on.
01:17:09.000 I don't think the intelligence show will ever be satisfied with whatever comes out of these.
01:17:13.000 My point, what I'm saying is We're not going to get them is my point.
01:17:15.000 There's, I don't see, Sure.
01:17:21.000 Cash was, he went on Glenn Beck's show and they said, who's got Epstein's black book?
01:17:25.000 And he says the FBI does.
01:17:26.000 Absolutely.
01:17:27.000 He said, the FBI director.
01:17:28.000 The FBI director.
01:17:29.000 And he said, it's directly under the control of the FBI director.
01:17:31.000 But the idea that anyone who could be implicated knew Trump was going to be coming in and had months of advance notice and just sat back and did nothing, they had to have been saying, all right, clear it out, get the files, anything incriminating.
01:17:45.000 And then you have an entire administration making promises that they get in there and they go, we got nothing.
01:17:50.000 So this is your question.
01:17:52.000 This answers your question.
01:17:54.000 why did Ro Khanna introduce this?
01:17:58.000 No, it's no, no, no.
01:17:59.000 Political.
01:17:59.000 This is why.
01:18:00.000 Because now we're not talking about illegal immigration.
01:18:02.000 We're not talking about defunding Planned Parenthood.
01:18:04.000 We're not talking about...
01:18:05.000 That's bad for Democrats.
01:18:09.000 It's bad for our movement.
01:18:10.000 We're not talking about all the other things because all we're talking about is Jeffrey Epstein.
01:18:13.000 Jeffrey Epstein.
01:18:14.000 Jeffrey Epstein.
01:18:14.000 So this is why Rocana dropped this.
01:18:16.000 No way, no way.
01:18:17.000 Let's keep talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
01:18:18.000 The Epstein.
01:18:19.000 All these other battles that we can fight.
01:18:21.000 Okay, I get it.
01:18:22.000 We're not going to fight them because we're going to focus on Jeffrey Epstein all the time.
01:18:25.000 Jeffrey Epstein.
01:18:26.000 It's the best thing that ever happened to Trump.
01:18:27.000 Jeffrey Epstein.
01:18:27.000 It's the best thing.
01:18:29.000 It has turned the noise off of all of the other stories onto a story that can't go anywhere.
01:18:35.000 If there's no files and there's no one, and it's all like, do we really believe they're sitting on a trove of documents being like, we could release it anytime?
01:18:41.000 Come on, anybody implicated knew Trump was going in that if he could release it, they would have gotten rid of most of the incriminating stuff at the bare minimum.
01:18:48.000 In Trump's first term, everybody in all these liberals and media made the argument that anytime Donald Trump had bad press on one of his policy decisions, he would tweet something unrelated to policy, some cultural issue.
01:19:01.000 So I'm not saying this is why it's happening, but it may be that Trump, one, one rumor I heard is that he's using the blackmail to force through his agenda.
01:19:10.000 I don't know if I believe that.
01:19:11.000 I think the likelihood is overpromise, under deliver.
01:19:14.000 And when they get in, it's like, oh, we actually can't deliver on these promises.
01:19:17.000 But more importantly, Trump raiding farms and sending in ICE agents to people fighting in the streets.
01:19:25.000 There was like a 20-something-year-old woman who fought an ICE agent in Boston or something like that.
01:19:29.000 And now the only thing anyone's talking about is this nebulous story, subject to debate, called a conspiracy theory.
01:19:37.000 The last thing Trump wants is a heavy focus of a Nash of national unrest on his immigration rates.
01:19:42.000 So that's why he's doing that.
01:19:43.000 I do think the story is important and we shouldn't not be talking about it because I think if our foundation or this country is comprised of sexual blackmail, which it has been since the dawn of time, not obviously this country.
01:19:54.000 Hold up.
01:19:54.000 But like since Hoover took over FBI, we know the mafia was sexually blackmailing him for being with his gay lover at a New York City hotel.
01:20:01.000 This is what the country's been doing.
01:20:03.000 So if our foundation is comprised of that, that foundation's got to be destroyed.
01:20:07.000 And I don't care what the repercussions are.
01:20:09.000 I don't care who the people in the periphery story are.
01:20:11.000 Wait, wait.
01:20:11.000 What if the repercussions are?
01:20:12.000 And this is, I'm not saying, I know people are getting mad.
01:20:14.000 I'm not saying it is.
01:20:16.000 I'm saying, how would you feel if Roakana's amendment goes through, all Democrats vote on it, and a couple of Republican defectors vote on it, and they get the documents, they're released.
01:20:29.000 And let's just say it's not incriminating for Trump, but it does destroy the strength of the federal government tremendously.
01:20:37.000 And then Democrats mount a resurgence, and we get a communist takeover in two years.
01:20:41.000 Let God sort it out.
01:20:42.000 Yeah, it does go over.
01:20:44.000 Even if it means communist takeover.
01:20:46.000 You don't know.
01:20:46.000 That means you're never going to know.
01:20:48.000 My point is.
01:20:49.000 It will destabilize.
01:20:50.000 My point is, I don't think it's likely.
01:20:52.000 I'm not saying it will happen.
01:20:54.000 But I'm saying, would you regret the decision?
01:20:56.000 Should communist takeover from the United States?
01:20:58.000 I lived in New York most of my life.
01:21:00.000 So I'm pretty used to communist takeover.
01:21:03.000 I guess, like.
01:21:04.000 Yes.
01:21:04.000 Yes, is the thing.
01:21:05.000 Yeah, I mean, like, I would regret it.
01:21:07.000 Yes.
01:21:07.000 I don't know if I would regret it.
01:21:10.000 If we do not just, we're already in communist.
01:21:12.000 We're talking about Karen Bass.
01:21:14.000 Look, Karen Bass is funding an invasion in California.
01:21:19.000 I had a genocidal maniac in New York, Cuomo.
01:21:22.000 And we have this genocide, this sexual blackmail operation running the country.
01:21:26.000 I'd like to see that come undone.
01:21:28.000 So we already have mom Donnie, whatever his name is in New York.
01:21:31.000 I don't care what the repercussions are going to be.
01:21:33.000 This is why.
01:21:34.000 They got to release it because the people already have very low confidence in the U.S. government.
01:21:39.000 So they need to drop them at this point.
01:21:41.000 Now, here's the thing.
01:21:42.000 I think they need to drop them, but I don't think they are because there's going to be national defense information in there.
01:21:47.000 It's going to not just compromise our national security, but also Israel's.
01:21:49.000 They're in a tumultuous time right now when it comes to getting a hegemony in the Middle East.
01:21:53.000 It's just not going to happen.
01:21:54.000 Let me add.
01:21:55.000 I agree with you on the Israel theory.
01:21:56.000 Took them 60 years to give us JFK.
01:21:58.000 Everybody's dead.
01:21:59.000 Apparently, they didn't even care.
01:22:00.000 All right.
01:22:01.000 I think it will cause problems for Israel.
01:22:03.000 Still not with that.
01:22:04.000 I think it will cause problems for the CIA, the FBI, the entirety of the U.S. intelligence apparatus.
01:22:08.000 And I think there's going to be several other countries involved in this as well that goes beyond just CIA and Messiah, probably MI6.
01:22:14.000 Sure.
01:22:15.000 So I think a strong possibility, too, is Trump's hands are effectively tied.
01:22:21.000 Now, we can make the argument, do it anyway, but it may be that Cash Dan, Pam, Trump, and Blanche, they get in there, and they've got the UK, all the Commonwealth nations, not just Israel, but you've even got Saudi Arabia, and they're like, you do this, and you're cooked.
01:22:36.000 And Trump's like, what do we do, guys?
01:22:38.000 Well, not just that.
01:22:38.000 Like, keep in mind, like, Patel and Bongino, everyone's so focused on the FBI.
01:22:44.000 The people that are going to have the real sauce is going to be the CIA and what Tulsi Gabbard has.
01:22:49.000 Because since this guy was collecting information for a foreign government, the FBI's information is going to be limited, right?
01:22:55.000 And I'll be honest with you guys, because I've worked with the FBI.
01:22:57.000 They're a mediocre intelligence gathering agency.
01:22:59.000 Okay.
01:23:00.000 They just are.
01:23:00.000 Because unlike, so with the FBI, they have to actually operate within the rules to a degree versus these other intel components don't care, right?
01:23:08.000 So like when the CIA is doing a lot of things that they were doing abroad during the war on terror, the FBI left.
01:23:13.000 They didn't want to be involved in a lot of that stuff because it destroys their ability to do prosecutions.
01:23:17.000 Because when we're doing prosecutions versus collecting information, two completely different things.
01:23:21.000 So if we really want to know what was going on, Tulsi Gabber is going to have everything.
01:23:25.000 She's the real person that's going to have everything.
01:23:26.000 Do you think you can trust what's there?
01:23:28.000 Because it's been through so many hands over all these years.
01:23:30.000 You know, honestly, dude, I don't think we're ever going to get the full transparency.
01:23:34.000 Just because people are alive, the nature of what he was doing, the national defense, sorry, not just that it's NDI, but it's going to affect us.
01:23:41.000 It's going to affect Israel.
01:23:42.000 This is a very turbulent time for Israel where they obviously need as much support.
01:23:45.000 If the info came out at this time, it's like the worst time it could ever come out for Israel.
01:23:50.000 So do you agree with MI6 as well?
01:23:52.000 Sure, for sure.
01:23:54.000 A lot of these agencies work together.
01:23:55.000 So I wouldn't be able to do it.
01:23:55.000 So the Five Eye Spy Club?
01:23:57.000 Of course, yeah.
01:23:58.000 Because you say Israel, and I'm like, okay, I agree, but let's make sure we mix in the other people.
01:24:02.000 And I agree, they're probably a large proponent, but the Five Eye Spy Club is not.
01:24:06.000 But they're in the most sensitive political climate right now, is my point.
01:24:09.000 That's why I said Israel.
01:24:10.000 Israel has the most sensitive.
01:24:11.000 They're in the middle of several wars.
01:24:12.000 Bro, I think, I don't, not that I got you too here, I don't see how Israel survives the political climate right now in the United States over the next 10 years.
01:24:22.000 I think their funding is pulled in 10 years, 20 years maybe.
01:24:25.000 I think it becomes a partisan issue, but I still think the Republican Party will stay pro-Israel, at least for the next.
01:24:30.000 Did You hear Tucker Carlson at TPUSA?
01:24:32.000 Yeah, but I think when you see actual elected officials, I think there's a disconnect from social media and in real life and how people vote in Congress.
01:24:42.000 I think the bigger issue with the Epstein story here is that if it doesn't confirm your priors, whatever you thought would be happening with this story, then you're not going to think enough stuff is released.
01:24:50.000 So, for example, if Massad is not implicated, Myron Gaines will not be satisfied.
01:24:53.000 If Donald Trump is not implicated, if Donald Trump is not implicated, then the Democrats won't be satisfied.
01:24:59.000 So I think for so many different people, if X or Y or Z person is kids, you're not going to think there is enough kids who were trafficked that people went to prison for.
01:25:09.000 Jeffrey Epstein was in jail in Florida.
01:25:11.000 So allegedly.
01:25:12.000 For underage stuff.
01:25:13.000 Ghillain is in jail right now for trafficking underage people.
01:25:16.000 Sure, trafficking allegedly people to Jeffrey Epstein and not others.
01:25:20.000 I mean, is what's happening according to their CFC.
01:25:24.000 There's a pilot.
01:25:25.000 Right.
01:25:25.000 Like, come on, like, there's other people involved in this.
01:25:28.000 It's so silly.
01:25:28.000 Right.
01:25:29.000 There's staff on that island.
01:25:30.000 There's staff at his compound in New Mexico.
01:25:33.000 There's lots of people.
01:25:34.000 There are lots of process crimes.
01:25:35.000 So where did they all go?
01:25:37.000 Is Donald Trump implicated here in hiding the ball?
01:25:39.000 Is that what we're doing?
01:25:40.000 I don't think so.
01:25:40.000 I don't think so, but he does have a long history.
01:25:42.000 I think that's a convenient out here for somebody who's prepared.
01:25:45.000 If there was a single sentence they could have leaked about Trump, they'd have leaked it.
01:25:48.000 They arrested his lawyers.
01:25:50.000 Okay.
01:25:50.000 They arrested his lawyers in multiple states.
01:25:52.000 They were trying as hard as they could.
01:25:54.000 Trump is very good at timing also.
01:25:56.000 And you've mentioned earlier, you know, is he doing a lot of stuff in preparation for the midterms, for the four years, right?
01:26:03.000 He may have this in his back pocket.
01:26:05.000 Maybe he does want to pull a couple strings.
01:26:06.000 Maybe he does want to make people dance.
01:26:08.000 Maybe there are a couple senators or governors who are panicking right now that he's kind of waving this because I want X, Y, or Z done.
01:26:16.000 And I'll release the list in 2028.
01:26:18.000 This is a big theory.
01:26:21.000 Before the Big Beautiful bill, everything was Epstein talk.
01:26:26.000 We're working on it.
01:26:26.000 Phase two is coming.
01:26:27.000 Big Beautiful bill passes.
01:26:29.000 Nothing to see here, boys.
01:26:31.000 Which the argument is Trump goes to the speaker and says, get my agenda passed.
01:26:36.000 I don't care how, or Epstein files come out.
01:26:39.000 And the speaker, the organizations behind all of the elections are going, how much damage do we take from this?
01:26:46.000 And they're like, it's going to be massive.
01:26:47.000 And they're like, give Trump his agenda.
01:26:50.000 Then Trump gets it passed and he says, okay, deal.
01:26:52.000 So he's like, the theory is, and I don't know, I'm not saying it's true, that he's using the blackmail.
01:26:58.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a possibility.
01:26:59.000 We know that this big, beautiful bill is probably going to be the biggest piece of legislation that he's able to pass before the midterm.
01:27:04.000 I mean, 100% before immigration.
01:27:06.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a reason why he compiled everything in there at once to get it through, right?
01:27:10.000 I mean, this theory does kind of make you think maybe it defunded Planned Parenthood.
01:27:17.000 Yes, there's a lot of stuff in this one big bill.
01:27:19.000 a lot of stuff he got done.
01:27:20.000 I could see the theory being possible if his body language wasn't so bad he didn't get the situation Or he's a good actor?
01:27:29.000 He's not a good actor.
01:27:30.000 He's got thin skin.
01:27:32.000 He does.
01:27:33.000 But maybe the reason he got thin skin about it is because in his mind, he's thinking, we're going to drop the Epstein thing because they gave me what I want and I'm going to uphold my end of the deal.
01:27:44.000 And so when they ask about it, he's like, I want this to go away because I got my agenda through.
01:27:48.000 Right.
01:27:49.000 And I think he's also, I also don't think he anticipated that it would create this much backlash from the base as well.
01:27:55.000 I don't think he anticipated because Trump is like one of these guys that likes to be liked.
01:27:59.000 So I think the fact that so many people pushed out, this is a big reason why I think he stamped his feet when it came to bombing Iran too.
01:28:04.000 Like when he said, yeah, we're going to bomb Iran or we're going to, you can't have nuclear weapons.
01:28:08.000 We were like, what the fuck?
01:28:09.000 No new wars.
01:28:09.000 So I think that also made him kind of saying that.
01:28:13.000 To a degree.
01:28:14.000 I'm sorry?
01:28:14.000 That wasn't ever new that he said Iran can't get nuclear weapons.
01:28:17.000 He's been saying that for close to a decade.
01:28:18.000 No, no, no.
01:28:19.000 I understand that.
01:28:20.000 But he did campaign on no new wars.
01:28:22.000 Also that Iran cannot get nuclear weapons.
01:28:24.000 Yeah, but bombing Iran was definitely taking a risk of starting a war.
01:28:29.000 That's a major escalation.
01:28:30.000 And we were very lucky to have gotten out of that without.
01:28:34.000 And here's the thing.
01:28:35.000 Look, controversial take.
01:28:37.000 I think it was an L. And there's a multitude of reasons why I think it was an L. Sure.
01:28:41.000 So the reason why it was an L is because, let's be honest here, the real goal from Israel was regime change.
01:28:47.000 Okay.
01:28:47.000 They didn't accomplish that.
01:28:48.000 They used the lie of they have nuclear weapons to justify regime change.
01:28:54.000 Because if they only cared about the nuclear weapons, why did they have the Mossad in the back lines for literally months building drones, doing it nice and slowly?
01:29:01.000 Then when they launched Operation Rising Lions, what did they do?
01:29:04.000 A bunch of targeted strikes, not just to kill nuclear scientists, but they also killed a bunch of generals.
01:29:09.000 And they were trying to kill the Ayatollah as well.
01:29:10.000 They just couldn't find them.
01:29:11.000 Then when they did their strikes and everything else like that, and then the U.S. came in and finished the job, and then we did this ceasefire, it was an L. And that's why they're trying to fight again.
01:29:21.000 They're trying to restart the war up again because they want a regime change.
01:29:23.000 And they understand that as long as the regime is there, it's an L. But let me tell you why it's also an L. I would say it's an L for Israel, but I don't think it's an L for Trump.
01:29:31.000 I think Trump got out of it.
01:29:33.000 Yeah, yeah, he did.
01:29:34.000 He did.
01:29:34.000 But obviously, a lot of his base didn't like that, right?
01:29:37.000 That he bombed them.
01:29:38.000 There was no need.
01:29:39.000 We spent billions of dollars to do it, right?
01:29:41.000 We spent all this time and resources into doing it.
01:29:43.000 Also, we spent a significant amount of money defending Israel.
01:29:46.000 We even propagandized.
01:29:49.000 $100 to $100 million a day just defending against the missiles from Iran.
01:29:52.000 We even propagandized the country with a billion-dollar film.
01:29:57.000 You guys know this, right?
01:29:58.000 Top Gun Maverick?
01:30:00.000 You think I'm kidding?
01:30:01.000 Oh, yeah, I saw that movie.
01:30:03.000 The movie's about, right?
01:30:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:30:04.000 The movie was literally about bombing the deep underground military bases in Iran.
01:30:09.000 Now, here's the thing.
01:30:09.000 Many people may be saying, like, how are you kidding?
01:30:12.000 You think they knew?
01:30:13.000 Yes, the bunker busters they use have been in development specifically for 2009.
01:30:18.000 Specifically for these facilities.
01:30:19.000 So I'm not saying that the U.S. government went to Hollywood and said, make this movie.
01:30:23.000 I'm saying someone doing research on the film said, we're going to make a movie.
01:30:27.000 So let me tell you why this was an L for all of us.
01:30:29.000 Number one, IAEA, eyes out.
01:30:32.000 The last guy just got kicked out like two days ago, right?
01:30:35.000 Two, the regime is stronger now because the people have galvanized behind the government.
01:30:39.000 The people that were critical of the theocracy before, now they're like, you know what?
01:30:42.000 Israel attacked us.
01:30:43.000 We're united.
01:30:44.000 The reformist party, the conservative party, they used to be at ends.
01:30:47.000 One party wanted to go ahead and diplomacy of the United States.
01:30:49.000 The other said, no, we can't trust the West.
01:30:51.000 Now they finally said, you know what?
01:30:52.000 Fuck Israel.
01:30:53.000 We're going to go ahead and strike back.
01:30:54.000 But Myron, I was told by many pro-Israel individuals that the people of Iran support Israel and hate their government and that's happening to be bombed.
01:31:01.000 That's a lie.
01:31:02.000 Yeah.
01:31:04.000 Dude, dude, literally, all the people that were critical of the theocracy and critical of the Ayatollah and were like, yo, what the hell's going on here?
01:31:10.000 Our government sucks.
01:31:11.000 When Israel attacked them, they united the country.
01:31:13.000 So that was another big L. And then when they had these funerals for the generals that died, which one of them they thought they killed, but they really didn't.
01:31:20.000 Thousands of people were showing up.
01:31:21.000 So now people are saying, fuck America and fuck Israel.
01:31:24.000 We survived.
01:31:25.000 We won.
01:31:25.000 They look at it as a W because they got attacked by both the United States and Israel.
01:31:29.000 They exposed all their cards with exposing their Mossad agents, and they still didn't decapitate the regime, and they're still in power.
01:31:34.000 So now our eyes with the IAEA is out.
01:31:36.000 The country is galvanized behind the government.
01:31:37.000 Ayatollah has more power than ever before.
01:31:39.000 And on top of that, we've just given them an excuse to work harder towards a nuclear bomb.
01:31:44.000 Now they're 1,000% going to get a nuclear bomb because we pulled out of the nuclear deal that we had, which was a fantastic deal, probably the only good thing that Obama did when he was in office.
01:31:52.000 And we don't have transparency with what they're doing.
01:31:54.000 So now they're going to get a nuclear bomb, and we're going to end up in a situation like North Korea where they're going to get the nuclear bomb to ensure that we don't fuck with them anymore.
01:32:01.000 Can I respond with some counterspin?
01:32:04.000 It's actually very interesting because I did think Israel took the biggest L on October 7th.
01:32:08.000 And since then, I think they've been taking very big Ws.
01:32:12.000 And the reason why I say that is because, if anything, Israel was able to defank Iran and their proxy since October 7th.
01:32:18.000 So for example, Gaza, Hamas was almost completely decimated.
01:32:24.000 Israel was even able to assassinate Ishmael Hania, the leader, the political leader of Hamas in Iran, proving to Iran that no leader there is safe.
01:32:34.000 Then obviously you mentioned the Bieper attack.
01:32:36.000 Hezbollah didn't bother coming to the defense of Iran.
01:32:38.000 Not to mention that Israel, we don't like to talk about it, was involved with the overthrowing of Assad, which was Iran's major ally in the region.
01:32:46.000 And then when it did come to the 12-day war, Israel had complete air superiority and our military weapons were proven to be much more capable than the Iranians.
01:32:55.000 So as of now, I think Israel has decimated all of the Iranian proxies in the region, actually doing what I think is America's dirty work.
01:33:03.000 So as far as like military position or, I mean, it's hard to get an exact gauge of what's going on in Iran, but as far as the military assets and, you know, their proxies go, I think it's really hard to argue that like you're not doing anything but spin saying Israel is the one who took an L. I mean, if anything, Israel even got out.
01:33:21.000 Israel even got the United States to join their attack on Iran, which again, I think would be a huge W. Netanyahu has been talking about the Americans joining in on an attack against this nuclear facility for so long.
01:33:33.000 So I can't see this as anything but a let me just say this.
01:33:39.000 I got to respond to that.
01:33:40.000 If it was the previous administration, if it was the Democrat administration, we'd have boots on the ground in Iran.
01:33:43.000 I don't think Kamala Harris would have even struck Iran if she was elected president, actually.
01:33:48.000 Come on, are you serious?
01:33:50.000 Yeah, I'm dead serious.
01:33:51.000 You said it yourself.
01:33:52.000 You saw the direction that the Democrats are going on with Israel.
01:33:55.000 You think she would back Israel in striking Iran?
01:33:58.000 I think that would lead to a coup in the party as a result of her.
01:34:00.000 Yeah, no, I've argued before that the Democrats, it's not about what they're doing on the surface trying to court their Democrat base.
01:34:08.000 The machine is supporting the machine.
01:34:11.000 The best opportunity the Israel critical group has is Donald Trump, who is concerned about pissing off his base.
01:34:17.000 Democrats are like, you're all chickens as far as I care.
01:34:20.000 We do what we want.
01:34:21.000 Yeah, I don't.
01:34:22.000 I think most Zionists also believe that the Democrats don't have Israel's back and that this was a once-in-a-lifetime presidential action by Donald Trump.
01:34:30.000 And Iran's more vulnerable than they've ever been.
01:34:32.000 But Myron, I want to hear.
01:34:33.000 No, yeah, but the reason why it's an L is because you didn't get what you really wanted.
01:34:36.000 Like, so the Israeli government lied when they said we just want them to stop with their nuclear weapons.
01:34:39.000 That's not what it was.
01:34:40.000 It was about regime change.
01:34:41.000 You guys couldn't do it.
01:34:43.000 And not only did you not.
01:34:44.000 It's like you're saying you guys do.
01:34:45.000 Yeah, well, because he kept saying Israel, he's kept saying we.
01:34:47.000 Well, I'm talking about the West, the United States and the US.
01:34:50.000 No, okay.
01:34:50.000 Well, maybe when you say we are not.
01:34:51.000 So we lost for spending a bunch of money in this situation to help defend you guys.
01:34:55.000 But the real problem is that we didn't effectuate the or Israel.
01:34:59.000 You were attacking you guys in the Middle East, huh, Abdul?
01:35:01.000 Well, I'm sorry.
01:35:02.000 Well, I'm saying you were saying they were defending us.
01:35:05.000 They were attacking you in the Middle East, you know, because I'm Israel and you're Iran here.
01:35:08.000 I'm not Iranian.
01:35:09.000 Well, you could pass as one.
01:35:10.000 I mean, Myron Gaines, is that even your real name?
01:35:12.000 I know Jews like to say that homonyms.
01:35:15.000 Now you're not even talking about the subject.
01:35:16.000 Oh, but you know, Jon Stewart turned into John Leibowitz.
01:35:19.000 Are you really Myron?
01:35:20.000 Or why do you use it?
01:35:21.000 Are you going to argue that?
01:35:21.000 My name is Mordecai.
01:35:22.000 Anyway, no, it's not.
01:35:23.000 What is it actually?
01:35:24.000 It's Mordecai.
01:35:26.000 I'm not going to sit here as you just change the subject to insult the guy instead of asking me.
01:35:29.000 He was the one who said you as Israel.
01:35:31.000 So I was defending against the people.
01:35:32.000 Yeah, you didn't say we when you were.
01:35:33.000 I was talking about us striking Iran as the United States.
01:35:36.000 We hit their nuclear forces.
01:35:38.000 And that's a fine clarification.
01:35:39.000 You don't got to insult him after he says that.
01:35:40.000 Yeah, I mean, the way it came, I've heard you said we multiple times after Israel, but that's fine.
01:35:44.000 If you want to, that's fine.
01:35:46.000 The point I'm trying to make is that the regime change was the goal.
01:35:51.000 Now the Israeli government is going to lie and say, oh, no, we just wanted to go after nuclear weapons.
01:35:55.000 It wasn't about the nuclear weapons.
01:35:56.000 That was just a pretense to try to effectuate the regime change.
01:35:59.000 And they activated multiple Assad assets in there.
01:36:01.000 They did a whole bunch of airstrikes.
01:36:02.000 Then they had the United States come in and do the coup de grace, and they still couldn't effectuate the regime change.
01:36:07.000 And the regime is still in power.
01:36:08.000 They're more resolved now than ever before.
01:36:10.000 They're united before.
01:36:11.000 That fractured government that people used to rely on saying like, yes, we could go ahead and get an uprising.
01:36:16.000 It didn't work, right?
01:36:17.000 They were hoping that the Balokes would go ahead and uprise with the government.
01:36:19.000 It didn't work.
01:36:20.000 Now they're behind the government even more so.
01:36:21.000 And now they got the IAEA out who was giving information to the Israeli intelligence apparatus.
01:36:26.000 They're gone.
01:36:27.000 So now they're 100% going to get a nuclear weapon.
01:36:28.000 And here's the other thing.
01:36:29.000 Staying in power is the win.
01:36:31.000 Is that it?
01:36:31.000 Just staying in power?
01:36:32.000 Yes.
01:36:33.000 Okay, that's the nation power.
01:36:34.000 And the reason why that's a win is because Israel's goal was to get them out of power.
01:36:38.000 Okay, and what's our national goal?
01:36:40.000 Wait, what's the IAC?
01:36:41.000 Just use a nuclear weapon.
01:36:42.000 Okay, sorry, I got it.
01:36:42.000 Just use a nuclear capability as a pretense to try to effectuate the regime.
01:36:46.000 So let me ask you this question.
01:36:46.000 What is the goal?
01:36:47.000 The IAEA is out.
01:36:49.000 So, I mean, that is a loss.
01:36:51.000 Huge.
01:36:52.000 Especially for Israel.
01:36:53.000 We were tracking what they were working on.
01:36:54.000 It's how we were collecting intelligence, and now we're not going to be able to.
01:36:56.000 I mean, that's not a good thing for us, right?
01:36:58.000 And here's the other thing, too.
01:36:59.000 I think the IEA was a feckless organization and not effective in doing what they were set up to do anyway.
01:37:04.000 I think they had hidden nuclear facilities that we actually bombed that the IAEA had no access to.
01:37:09.000 So if anything, to me, the IAEA is a rubber stamp for Iran.
01:37:13.000 And here's the other thing, too, when it comes to hidden nuclear facilities.
01:37:16.000 We know about the three main ones.
01:37:17.000 I guarantee you guys that there's probably other clandestine nuclear operations in Iran that we don't know about.
01:37:23.000 And we know that roughly 400 kilograms of highly enriched uranium was probably moved out of Ford prior to the bombing.
01:37:30.000 So, however, we want to slice it, right?
01:37:33.000 Let's just go with the White House commentary.
01:37:35.000 One to two years, right, that we've pushed back their nuclear program.
01:37:38.000 Well, now they have the capability.
01:37:40.000 They've already mastered the cycle.
01:37:41.000 They can go ahead and enrich uranium at a high level.
01:37:44.000 Now, all their scientists are gone.
01:37:45.000 They're going to go ahead and get a nuclear bomb.
01:37:47.000 And now they have even more resolve to do so.
01:37:48.000 So I look at it like the reason why this was now is because the Israeli government will lie and say, oh, we want to go ahead and just get rid of their nuclear program.
01:37:54.000 No, it's about regime change.
01:37:55.000 And they could not effectuate the regime.
01:37:56.000 I think that's an extremely low bar.
01:37:58.000 We generally consider it a low-income.
01:37:59.000 What's the low bar?
01:38:00.000 So we stay in power.
01:38:01.000 What's the low bar?
01:38:02.000 We're staying in power is a low bar.
01:38:05.000 I think I'm the third time.
01:38:06.000 We've already mentioned regime change.
01:38:07.000 So let's move on.
01:38:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:38:08.000 And then the last thing I'll say is that the other thing also with the ceasefire is Israel held a lot of this information back, but they were actually getting hit pretty hard by the Iranian missiles.
01:38:18.000 Despite the fact that they had U.S., British, Jordanian help, et cetera, the Iranian ballistic missile program was extremely competent.
01:38:27.000 I think even Ben Gavir had admitted, yeah, we got hit pretty hard.
01:38:29.000 A couple of their strategic sites got hit.
01:38:31.000 A Mossad base got hit.
01:38:32.000 Oman base got hit.
01:38:33.000 Now, there was a law in the books, though, where Israeli media would get in trouble for reporting this or showing the damage.
01:38:39.000 But now you look, Israeli media is even admitting that they got hit pretty hard with the Israeli missiles.
01:38:43.000 Hell, even Trump himself said on the last day of the bombing that Iran hit them hard.
01:38:46.000 So the reality is that Israel is a glass cannon that can't even properly defend itself.
01:38:50.000 Yes, it can attack, but it can't defend itself without U.S. aid.
01:38:53.000 So this is why I look at it overall.
01:38:55.000 This was an L for all of us.
01:38:57.000 I shouldn't have gotten involved.
01:38:58.000 We're going to go to chats in a second, but I do want to just highlight this because we're getting crazy reports.
01:39:02.000 They've been coming in earlier in the night about major flooding in New Jersey.
01:39:06.000 So again, with all the flooding we've been seeing, yeah, right.
01:39:08.000 Like Texas has been getting hit again.
01:39:10.000 I think even recently, like they're saying more is coming.
01:39:13.000 That's probably why they delayed me.
01:39:14.000 Georgia.
01:39:15.000 Oh, this is the storm.
01:39:17.000 Yeah, this is, yeah, like that's why.
01:39:18.000 Bro, I pulled up the weather radar.
01:39:20.000 Florida and the DC area.
01:39:22.000 It's like the worst possible time for they warned me yesterday when I was when I was going to check in.
01:39:26.000 So yeah.
01:39:28.000 We've had, I think we're saying like we've got close to double the rain we normally get.
01:39:34.000 It was storming again today.
01:39:35.000 It's nuts.
01:39:36.000 The groundwater level is insanely high.
01:39:38.000 And we got this little creek nearby that only in the springtime does water actually flow.
01:39:43.000 It's like a river right now.
01:39:44.000 It's crazy.
01:39:45.000 We drive past and it's flowing bigger and it's leaking onto the street because basically the street is a bridge over the creek and the creek just flows down.
01:39:53.000 In the summer and fall and winter, there's nothing.
01:39:56.000 In the spring when the snow melts, you get a little creek.
01:39:59.000 We go there and it's going so much it's going over the road is how crazy it's been.
01:40:03.000 But we're going to go to your chats, my friend.
01:40:05.000 So smash the like button.
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01:40:08.000 We're going to have that uncensored call-in show coming up at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
01:40:14.000 That'll be at 10.
01:40:15.000 But for now, we will read your chats and Rumble rants.
01:40:18.000 So get them in while you can.
01:40:20.000 Let's go.
01:40:21.000 All right.
01:40:21.000 Chane H. Wilder says, since the auto pen for Biden's pardons was approved by an assistant, so wouldn't that mean the assistant committed felony forgery and the pardons are null and void?
01:40:31.000 I mean, if I was in office, I'd be like, charge him.
01:40:34.000 But, you know, all these people are trying to play politics and they're trying to cut deals and they're going, and you know what they're going to say to me?
01:40:40.000 They're going to say, Tim, you're so naive.
01:40:42.000 You don't waste leverage.
01:40:44.000 They're going to say, if a dude committed a crime, you bring the DOJ in and say, here's the list of crimes you're going to be charged with unless.
01:40:53.000 And that's probably the game of politics.
01:40:55.000 So that's why nobody gets charged.
01:40:56.000 And we're like, why would anyone get in trouble?
01:40:58.000 Next thing you know, some crackpot Democrat comes out and says, you know, I actually don't think Trump's all that bad.
01:41:03.000 You know, I was concerned about the Epstein thing.
01:41:06.000 And then when I said he wasn't going to release it, I was like, oh, thank God.
01:41:10.000 All right, what do we got?
01:41:12.000 Evan for U.S. says, impeach and investigate Joe Biden, investigate his staff.
01:41:16.000 Indeed.
01:41:17.000 The quiet part pod says, fact-checked him.
01:41:19.000 There are 86,400 seconds in a day.
01:41:24.000 Isn't that what I said?
01:41:25.000 Like 86?
01:41:26.000 I thought I was close to that number.
01:41:27.000 It sounded right to me.
01:41:28.000 Yeah, I was close.
01:41:29.000 I mean, I wasn't 100% accurate, but I wasn't.
01:41:33.000 Okay, thank you.
01:41:33.000 It's the science.
01:41:34.000 I like precision.
01:41:35.000 Precision is important.
01:41:37.000 Blazala says, perhaps Trump's response to the Epstein files was to get Democrats to care to release the Epstein files.
01:41:42.000 One of those Trump cures cancer, we like cancer now things.
01:41:45.000 It would be really funny if Trump was like, the only way they'll get on board with voting to release the documents is if we claim we're not gonna.
01:41:52.000 And now they're like, you better.
01:41:53.000 It's like, oh, here we go.
01:41:54.000 All right, you all asked for it.
01:41:56.000 Here's the document.
01:41:57.000 Blaine saying that she would testify?
01:41:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:41:59.000 That's crazy.
01:41:59.000 And they're saying, no, they won't let her.
01:42:01.000 Yeah.
01:42:02.000 They're definitely not.
01:42:04.000 All right.
01:42:04.000 It's funny she's still alive, huh?
01:42:08.000 Let's see who we got.
01:42:09.000 Yeah, I don't want anyone to die.
01:42:11.000 Yeah, I think her dying would have been like, okay, come on now.
01:42:14.000 Her dad died mysteriously.
01:42:16.000 Etho says, Tim, the Barbary Pirates were direct employees for the Ottoman Empire.
01:42:20.000 Look up the story of Lieutenant Presley O'Bannon.
01:42:22.000 Of course, we know this.
01:42:24.000 This is why we talk about privateers and letters of mark and corsairs all the time.
01:42:27.000 That is, various empires and kings and queens and governments, they commission privateers.
01:42:33.000 These are people that on the surface claim to not be directly involved or taking orders, but they are given clearance and signed off on by their government.
01:42:41.000 So that was the point I was making about Trende Aragua is a gang, not Venezuela.
01:42:46.000 But Trump's argument is they're signed off on.
01:42:49.000 Effectively, these people are serving as privateers for foreign governments.
01:42:55.000 That would be treason to aid and abet those individuals that are coming here to cause us harm.
01:42:59.000 Tim, I'm heading out.
01:43:00.000 All right, man.
01:43:01.000 See y'all.
01:43:01.000 Got to go do my show now.
01:43:03.000 10 o'clock tonight, Inverted World Live.
01:43:05.000 We're going to talk about UFOs and F-16s crashing into them.
01:43:08.000 I heard you had raid reviews for last Tuesday's episode.
01:43:11.000 Last Tuesday, I had a sergeant from the 4th Reich who's been below Antarctica where there's an 8 million population.
01:43:17.000 The 4th?
01:43:17.000 The 4th.
01:43:18.000 They're cool Jews, so you should get in touch.
01:43:20.000 Oh, it's so familiar.
01:43:21.000 There was another.
01:43:22.000 Yeah, no, no, he's very nice.
01:43:23.000 That was Sergeant Payton.
01:43:24.000 What if there are 8 million people underground?
01:43:26.000 Well, there was base 211 that the Nazis went and hooked up in 1939, and there was the Operation High Jump where there might have been a battle.
01:43:34.000 Wasn't there like some kid who took a plane and flew?
01:43:37.000 Recently, they arrested him.
01:43:39.000 Can't go there unless you have special permission because they're hiding the ice wall and the Nazis.
01:43:44.000 I'll see you guys later.
01:43:45.000 Or it's the treaties, but you know.
01:43:46.000 All right, man.
01:43:47.000 Later.
01:43:47.000 Thank you.
01:43:47.000 See you.
01:43:48.000 Cheers.
01:43:49.000 Let's grab some more and see what we got going on.
01:43:52.000 TPH says, Tim, most podcasts open with music before the show starts.
01:43:55.000 Why not play some Phil songs?
01:43:57.000 Yeah, but everybody does like a, you know, it's like a light 8-bit song of some sort.
01:44:02.000 Chill-hop.
01:44:03.000 Yeah, what is it?
01:44:03.000 What do you call it?
01:44:04.000 Like trip hop.
01:44:05.000 Trip-hop.
01:44:06.000 Chill-hop.
01:44:06.000 Yeah.
01:44:07.000 Beats to study and beats to study too.
01:44:10.000 Lo-fi type.
01:44:10.000 Lo-fi, beats to study, too.
01:44:13.000 T-Boyd says, Tim, all these politicians swear an oath to uphold the Constitution and laws.
01:44:17.000 They are breaking their oath and committing treason.
01:44:21.000 I don't think these people take that oath very seriously.
01:44:23.000 Yeah.
01:44:25.000 They're just saying things.
01:44:28.000 All right, what do we got?
01:44:31.000 Rob Sears, Robbie Sears, says, I think Epstein could have trafficked adult, high-paid hookers and kids.
01:44:37.000 I have a feeling they weren't all kids, so you could be a customer and not a PDF file.
01:44:44.000 Right.
01:44:44.000 Wexner, his backer, owned Victoria's Secret, so he definitely had...
01:44:50.000 The way the scheme would work is he'd go there with Glenn Maxwell.
01:44:53.000 She knew all these people from talking about saving the ocean that were powerful.
01:44:56.000 And he'd bring these girls to these parties, these hot girls, and people were like, oh, who's this guy?
01:44:59.000 We're bringing all these women.
01:45:00.000 And that's how he kind of got known was by bringing all the hot girls to the party.
01:45:04.000 Yep.
01:45:04.000 That were of age.
01:45:05.000 And then you show up at his house.
01:45:06.000 Next thing you know, there's 15-year-olds there.
01:45:08.000 Well, the argument is that there would be like a 17-year-old or a 16-year-old, and they would lie and tell you, oh, she's 18, you're good.
01:45:14.000 Yep.
01:45:15.000 Then film you and then be like, she's not.
01:45:17.000 We tricked you.
01:45:17.000 And now we've got the proof of destroying you.
01:45:18.000 So the way the scheme worked, like in the beginning, because I went through his old case, his state case from like 05, 06, 07.
01:45:24.000 And he basically had a bunch of girls from like the local private school working for him, giving massages or whatever.
01:45:30.000 So after he built the, like, he met these people in New York at these parties, they'd go to his house in West Palm.
01:45:35.000 And he already had like a network of like 10 or 15 underage high school girls that looked of age.
01:45:40.000 And they would come in and do the massages or whatever.
01:45:42.000 And he'd be paying them $400 or $500 a pop.
01:45:44.000 And then he'd be like, you have any friends that can do this?
01:45:46.000 And they're like, okay, because, you know, back then in 07, 08, 500 bucks, 600 bucks, high school kid, quite a bit of money.
01:45:52.000 And then that's how he would also get like the young girls recruited.
01:45:55.000 Geez, man.
01:45:56.000 Yeah.
01:45:57.000 All right.
01:45:58.000 What do we got here?
01:45:58.000 A free thinking dog says, such a load of horse-ish.
01:46:01.000 Obama made the Iran nuclear deal and they started violating it from day one.
01:46:06.000 They refused inspections and restricted any expection that did happen.
01:46:09.000 They are building a nuke.
01:46:13.000 I think they're building a nuke.
01:46:14.000 And I think the argument is sound that when NATO basically went in and killed Gaddafi, the message sent to the world is, if you can't defend yourself, we're coming for you.
01:46:25.000 Yeah.
01:46:25.000 And literally, like, all we've done is increase the resolve to get nuclear weapons.
01:46:30.000 And then Trump pulling out of the nuclear deal was the dumbest thing we could have ever done.
01:46:34.000 But he did that with enormous pressure from the Zionist lobby and Mike Pompeo.
01:46:37.000 He ran on doing that.
01:46:40.000 Well, that was like I said, well, again.
01:46:42.000 He ran out of on pulling out of the Iran deal.
01:46:44.000 That was like one of the big things that he started off talking about.
01:46:48.000 Before all the pressure of him in office.
01:46:50.000 Yeah, yeah, but that was his platform.
01:46:52.000 was a major, major mistake.
01:46:53.000 And then, again, I think you're implying that we're getting tricked and he's doing things that he said he wouldn't do.
01:47:01.000 But if you were following Trump for a long time, I don't know if you have been.
01:47:04.000 He's been crystal clear on a lot of these issues.
01:47:06.000 So again, when he started running, he was complaining about how bad of a deal Obama got us into.
01:47:11.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:47:12.000 Well, again, like I said, it was a good deal.
01:47:15.000 We wouldn't have had the problems that we're having.
01:47:16.000 But again, from enormous pressure from the Zionist lobby, that is why he said, you know what?
01:47:20.000 Yeah, I'm going to pull out the nuclear deal.
01:47:22.000 And then when he came in and then Mike Pompeo, who's a very trusted advisor to him, also owned by the Zionist lobby, went ahead and put them on the, I put the IRGC on the terrorist watch list in 2019, pulled out of the nuclear deal, sanctioned them to hell.
01:47:35.000 Like, of course, that's going to make them say, you know what, we can't even protect ourselves or fund ourselves.
01:47:38.000 We're going to go ahead and get a nuclear weapon.
01:47:40.000 Like really bad foreign policy is what pushed them to do that.
01:47:43.000 Whereas we could have had diplomacy, but it's always, we're doing this because of Israel, because Israel wants to be the hegemony in the Middle East.
01:47:50.000 And Iran's the only power that stands against that.
01:47:53.000 All right, let's grab some more.
01:47:54.000 We've got Waffle Sensei says, any random intern could use Autopen with Biden's name, and the White House would never say that it wasn't the president because of optics.
01:48:04.000 Agreed.
01:48:05.000 Also, I'm checking the top fans thing.
01:48:06.000 Let's see what's changed.
01:48:07.000 Is it going to pop up?
01:48:08.000 It's like freezing on me.
01:48:10.000 YouTube rolled out this new feature where you can, oh, it crashed.
01:48:13.000 You can look at your top fans.
01:48:15.000 Are you seeing this in the chat?
01:48:17.000 There's like a little crown.
01:48:19.000 Let's see.
01:48:20.000 I noticed that.
01:48:20.000 Look at this.
01:48:21.000 I can't see the full name because, like, how do I even...
01:48:25.000 It says Castle with 2075 experience.
01:48:30.000 There's like a ranking list of the top engaged chats.
01:48:32.000 I mean, that is cool.
01:48:34.000 Maybe if you reframe it a little bit, you'll be able to see.
01:48:36.000 I don't know.
01:48:36.000 Yeah, whatever.
01:48:37.000 I don't care that much.
01:48:38.000 I don't think it does anything.
01:48:39.000 You know what I mean?
01:48:40.000 I don't think what they did with the autopilot was just for the optics.
01:48:43.000 I think it goes both ways.
01:48:44.000 I think even if Biden found out what was happening, they would have said, Mr. President, do you really want us to go to the press and say you didn't know this was being done?
01:48:51.000 So why don't you just be quiet?
01:48:52.000 Exactly what happened.
01:48:53.000 Optics in every direction.
01:48:54.000 Yep.
01:48:55.000 All right.
01:48:56.000 Christiano K says, Timmy, please tell me you've seen the clip of Trump celebrating with the Chelsea football club instead of leaving the winner's podium like he was supposed to.
01:49:04.000 Legend.
01:49:05.000 I did.
01:49:06.000 It was hilarious.
01:49:07.000 And like these liberals are like, oh, Trump's so dumb.
01:49:09.000 And I'm like, no, Trump can do whatever he wants.
01:49:12.000 You said Trump likes to be liked, and he loves things like that.
01:49:16.000 Winning ceremonies, UFC fights, giving people a belt, a trophy.
01:49:20.000 He loves those moments.
01:49:22.000 The Nobel Peace Prize, which is hilarious to Annette and Yah, who named them for, you know, said, I nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize.
01:49:28.000 There's no way in hell Trump would have left that podium without a piece of peace.
01:49:31.000 That's like a pedo owning a daycare.
01:49:33.000 Makes zero sense, man.
01:49:34.000 Makes zero sense.
01:49:35.000 All right.
01:49:36.000 Let's go to Missy with a K. He says, Tim, you promote the Discord and how neat it is.
01:49:40.000 Full of cool people and content creators like Joey Cannoli from Outworld, Tyler from Tyler Today News.
01:49:46.000 It'd be neat if those people were given a spotlight on your show.
01:49:49.000 That was always the plan to have our Discord members periodically joining us.
01:49:53.000 So guys, what you want to do is go to TimCast.com, click join us, join the Discord server.
01:49:59.000 It's a community of tens of thousands of people.
01:50:00.000 They're all hanging out.
01:50:01.000 Maybe you want to lose weight.
01:50:02.000 Maybe you want to eat right.
01:50:03.000 Maybe you want to write a comic.
01:50:04.000 Maybe you want to write a song.
01:50:05.000 Play video games.
01:50:06.000 There's video game servers.
01:50:07.000 Everybody's hanging out.
01:50:08.000 Community is the most important thing.
01:50:10.000 I talk about this all the time, especially with the 4th of July.
01:50:13.000 I said I went to my hometown and nobody was outside because everyone's online looking at pictures of cats and arguing with strangers.
01:50:20.000 At least if you're going to be online, spend it with a community of friends that you can play games with, talk with, and, you know, meet spaces better, but this is a good start.
01:50:28.000 And of course, DC Comedy Loft, members get reserved preferred seating.
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01:50:40.000 Make sure you grab them now while you can.
01:50:42.000 And tickets are going quick.
01:50:43.000 We got some big names lining up.
01:50:45.000 August 2nd is Michael Malice and Angry Cops debating police.
01:50:49.000 That's going to be hilarious.
01:50:50.000 I'm super excited for these shows because DC Comedy Loft also has chicken wings, among other things on the menu.
01:50:56.000 But I'm just going to order like 50 wings and sit there eating them the whole time.
01:50:59.000 I'm not literally, but you know, wings are delicious.
01:51:03.000 All right.
01:51:05.000 Larch says, Nat Guard, set up a dragnet block by block.
01:51:10.000 Let's go.
01:51:12.000 All right.
01:51:13.000 We'll grab some more.
01:51:15.000 MAGA Millennial says, base wants to get arrested.
01:51:19.000 The left loves martyrs.
01:51:23.000 Elliott says, I've talked to a lot of my friends, neighbors, and co-workers about the Epstein files.
01:51:29.000 90% of them had to be reminded who he was.
01:51:32.000 I agree.
01:51:33.000 The issue is good for Trump that everyone's debating this stuff.
01:51:37.000 I'm not saying he did it on purpose, but if the narrative is Trump raiding immigrants and the left can keep that in the news, they'll rally people to come riot and protest.
01:51:48.000 If Trump can deflect in any meaningful way, then the narrative becomes something nebulous.
01:51:52.000 Where are you going to go?
01:51:53.000 Are you going to go stand in front of the FBI building, the new one, and be like, we want Epstein and no one's going to care?
01:51:58.000 Yeah, and they've been running with, like, CNN has been like beating Trump up about these Epstein files the whole time, which is, I guess, kind of good because it takes eyes off the immigration stuff, which actually does create a lot of the turmoil for the administration.
01:52:09.000 So I could see it as a potential media strategy as well, but yeah.
01:52:14.000 Yep.
01:52:15.000 All right.
01:52:15.000 What do we got?
01:52:16.000 Think of our life says, so the Dems will push for good actions, just releasing the Epstein list, if Trump merely postures he's not in the mood for it.
01:52:25.000 Now all we got to do is have Trump do an about face on something big.
01:52:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52:30.000 Trump comes out and says, okay, fine, you've convinced me.
01:52:33.000 Here are the files.
01:52:34.000 But I don't think he needs the support to do it anyway.
01:52:36.000 He could just put it out.
01:52:38.000 You just do it.
01:52:39.000 I do think there's an interesting argument.
01:52:40.000 I was talking to Kyle Serafin today, and his argument is kind of like, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I'll just give you the general theme, the general theory.
01:52:49.000 Epstein was bad.
01:52:50.000 He was doing really bad things.
01:52:52.000 It's not nearly as big as people think it is because it was overhyped by everybody for years.
01:52:57.000 And so they basically get in and look at the files and they're like, yeah, it's bad.
01:53:01.000 And it does implicate a handful of people, but it's not like this massive end-of-the-world government-destroying release.
01:53:09.000 So the general argument is over-promise, under, underperform, essentially.
01:53:13.000 Not that there's nothing there, but that whatever they have wouldn't satisfy and people with the killer.
01:53:19.000 I actually agree with that.
01:53:20.000 I don't think it was a cover-up number.
01:53:21.000 I don't think it's going to be like that, that huge.
01:53:23.000 I think the thing that people really want is to know who it was working for, how it's collecting information.
01:53:29.000 The mode and methodology is really what people want because we already know who's kind of on the list.
01:53:33.000 But the challenge is, you said you really, you know what people want.
01:53:37.000 Yeah, but which people want this?
01:53:38.000 Like the people who want the information are politicos, deeply entrenched in the political space.
01:53:44.000 Yes.
01:53:44.000 And the average American doesn't care.
01:53:46.000 You know what people are known.
01:53:47.000 But we don't know what the truth is, is what the issue is.
01:53:51.000 Do you understand?
01:53:52.000 I do think that people have an idea of what the, You know, the average American is not going to even know.
01:53:59.000 The average American doesn't even know what Masad is, dude.
01:54:01.000 Cerdovich.
01:54:03.000 Mike Cerdovich actually got this whole thing kicked off with his initial lawsuit, and he thinks it's not Mossad because they let you say it.
01:54:09.000 And, you know, there were people's names you could not say during the Trump impeachment that if you did on any platform, they would instantly just delete your content.
01:54:16.000 And I do think it's important, and I said this yesterday on my stream, that people understand that when we say like Epstein was an asset, Intel asset, that doesn't necessarily mean he was like a guy that clocked into work every day and was getting paid a salary.
01:54:27.000 You can be an asset simply by having a handler saying, hey, look, this guy who I know you have some interest in is going to be at this place at this time.
01:54:34.000 Bam.
01:54:35.000 That's enough.
01:54:35.000 You're basically like a source and or someone.
01:54:37.000 And the thing is with sources, because I've dealt with this before, like when I was on the job, informants a lot of times have multiple agencies they might work for.
01:54:44.000 This kind of adds more credence to what you were saying, where it could be MI5, whatever.
01:54:47.000 I know that they had said that he had a Saudi Arabian passport.
01:54:49.000 So I wouldn't be surprised if people like him, what they do is to protect themselves is they have information on a whole bunch of different people and they feed it to where they need to to keep themselves protected.
01:55:00.000 So this is why he's collecting dirt on both people on the right and on the left.
01:55:04.000 All right.
01:55:04.000 Kick the ball says, indentured servitude is illegal under federal law.
01:55:07.000 It's a form of slavery.
01:55:08.000 The Trafficking Victims Protection Act enacted in 2000, agreed.
01:55:13.000 That's what I was saying.
01:55:14.000 Any adult who came here with a coyote or cartel or whatever, and they said, you've got to work to pay off this debt, they are slaves.
01:55:22.000 They are enslaved.
01:55:24.000 And so Democrats, once again, pro-slavery, I guess.
01:55:29.000 Jenny Vett says, Tim, my first child was born today, a beautiful boy.
01:55:32.000 I was hoping to get a Phil Metal Yell.
01:55:35.000 Maybe next time.
01:55:35.000 Love you guys.
01:55:36.000 Congratulations.
01:55:37.000 That's great.
01:55:38.000 There was a great post where, I mean, it was kind of silly.
01:55:41.000 There was like this dude on a private jet, and he was like 42, big crypto portfolio.
01:55:48.000 Guess where I'm taking my jet to?
01:55:50.000 And I think it was Jason Howerton was just like, he was like, I was hanging out with my kids today.
01:55:56.000 There's nothing more valuable or whatever.
01:55:58.000 And I'm like, you don't need to rag on a guy just because he's on a jet and he's excited and he's having a good time.
01:56:03.000 However, to be fair, I went top goal with my wife and I held my daughter while we cheered for my wife as she swung.
01:56:08.000 And there's nothing more valuable than that.
01:56:11.000 Like there's nothing I could buy that is better than that.
01:56:14.000 Look at Tim becoming a big mush.
01:56:16.000 I love it.
01:56:16.000 And a dad.
01:56:17.000 I love it.
01:56:18.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:56:19.000 Yup.
01:56:19.000 And all the guys out there who have kids are going like, ah, I know it.
01:56:22.000 I know it.
01:56:23.000 And everyone says, well, cherish it now because it goes quick.
01:56:26.000 You know, a couple of years, she'll be walking around doing her own thing.
01:56:28.000 You know what I mean?
01:56:29.000 But for now, you know, I get to hold the baby while she waves at mom and mom is playing golf.
01:56:33.000 And it's fun.
01:56:34.000 There's nothing more valuable than that.
01:56:36.000 That's why I feel really bad.
01:56:38.000 Because, you know, talking about like all the dating stuff, I was like, you know, the way I see my wife holding my daughter and like the joy she has, it is the, it is euphoria beyond euphoria to be like, to see, like, I can just, I don't feel nearly as much as whatever my wife must be feeling holding that baby.
01:56:59.000 And I love my daughter, but women have a special, powerful bond.
01:57:03.000 And I'm like, the idea that society told women not to experience this is criminal.
01:57:07.000 Yeah, it's wild, right?
01:57:08.000 It's terrifying.
01:57:09.000 Dude, feminism, I've said it before, bro.
01:57:10.000 It's literally probably one of the worst things we could have ever experienced humanity-wise.
01:57:14.000 And the problem with feminism, it's like the Trojan horse to all the other progressive problems.
01:57:18.000 I can't go anywhere with my baby without women running up and going, woo!
01:57:22.000 And then, like, my wife is giggling and they're like, how old is she, oh my God?
01:57:24.000 We went to a diner over the weekend and all the servers ran over to come look at the new baby.
01:57:29.000 And I'm like, it's because babies are awesome.
01:57:31.000 And there's this, you know what it is.
01:57:34.000 We don't have a lot of time to get into all the feminism stuff, but we talked about it before.
01:57:39.000 Who's the most likely to end up working as a writer?
01:57:44.000 Women are more likely to get jobs in journalism.
01:57:46.000 And if a woman is working, she's less likely to have a family.
01:57:49.000 So you're getting this opinion skewed towards working women, releasing all the media to other women, telling them work is good.
01:57:56.000 Yeah.
01:57:56.000 And I've said it before, like they enable bad behavior.
01:58:00.000 Like with women, it's like if you're fat or annoying, like no one tells you you're fat and you're annoying.
01:58:04.000 It's like you're perfect and you're a queen and you deserve the world.
01:58:07.000 It's like, did you see this where they told the women to line up based on their own attractiveness?
01:58:13.000 Oh, yes.
01:58:13.000 And then like the fat chick was number two.
01:58:15.000 Yeah.
01:58:16.000 And then she ended up in the back.
01:58:17.000 And it was just like they were actually saying like, you're so beautiful.
01:58:21.000 Yeah, you're.
01:58:22.000 It's terrible, bro.
01:58:23.000 What?
01:58:23.000 It's like with men, right?
01:58:24.000 Like, we kind of understand meritocracy and where we stand, like, and we'll make fun of each other.
01:58:28.000 Like, women will not do that.
01:58:30.000 Like, they don't hold each other accountable at all.
01:58:31.000 This is why they, like, they'll be fat and still be delusional.
01:58:34.000 It's crazy, man.
01:58:35.000 All right.
01:58:35.000 We got Elliott's 8069 says, Tim is absolutely correct.
01:58:39.000 There is no evidence anymore.
01:58:40.000 I mean, I don't know.
01:58:42.000 I'm just saying, why would there be?
01:58:44.000 Like, if you knew Trump was going to get in and expose you and his people had been screaming it, wouldn't you be like Biden?
01:58:50.000 Get rid of it now.
01:58:53.000 They had four years to, if there was anything, yeah, it would have.
01:58:57.000 Let's say this.
01:58:58.000 Hypothetical scenario.
01:59:00.000 The U.S., the Five Eye spies, totally not involved in anything Epstein was doing.
01:59:04.000 Epstein had all this blackmail.
01:59:06.000 And the Biden administration would not be in any way implicated by it at all.
01:59:10.000 They knew other people would be.
01:59:11.000 It could be as simple as them saying, we don't want Trump to be able to blackmail people, so get rid of it.
01:59:15.000 Like, even in the, like.
01:59:17.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.
01:59:19.000 The prior administration.
01:59:20.000 Yeah, the left is making the argument when I said I think Democrats destroyed.
01:59:22.000 They're like, Tim won't admit that Trump is on it, blah, blah, blah.
01:59:25.000 And I'm like, he might be.
01:59:26.000 I don't know.
01:59:26.000 I doubt it because the Democrats would have released it.
01:59:29.000 But Democrats, if they're implicated by it or if Trump could wield it as a weapon, don't want him to have it.
01:59:36.000 Either way, they have a reason to get rid of that evidence.
01:59:39.000 Well, that's why I don't think whatever comes out is even the fullness of what comes out.
01:59:42.000 We can't even get full COVID studies.
01:59:45.000 I mean, like, there's, there's a lot of stuff.
01:59:47.000 I mean, the whole intelligence community exists for the guardian of intelligence.
01:59:52.000 They're not going to release what they don't want to release.
01:59:55.000 We can't get the truth of gain of function research.
01:59:58.000 Here's what I don't get, though.
01:59:59.000 And that was just a couple years ago.
02:00:00.000 The Trump admin has carte blanche right now to go after literally anybody he wants.
02:00:05.000 They have to play it.
02:00:06.000 Trump effectively has the death note.
02:00:09.000 He could create a list and just put his enemies on it and be like, here's the Epstein list and drop it on a table.
02:00:15.000 And then people are going to say, no, look, if the Trump admin issued an unsigned, undated memo saying this is the Epstein list, and it was literally just a list of Trump's enemies, people would be like, this is it.
02:00:27.000 This proves it.
02:00:29.000 Like, he could do it.
02:00:31.000 When was the Trump raid on Mar-a-Lago?
02:00:34.000 It was like two or three years ago in the summer.
02:00:38.000 Yeah.
02:00:38.000 Yeah, I think it was like August.
02:00:41.000 Yeah.
02:00:42.000 So, all right.
02:00:42.000 So at this point in the Biden administration, that hadn't happened yet, six months into the Biden administration.
02:00:47.000 But the J6 hearings had already started.
02:00:51.000 Right.
02:00:51.000 So if Trump wanted to be as vindictive, my point is, if he wanted to be as vindictive as the Biden administration was, what had Biden done by now, six months in who had been arrested?
02:01:00.000 Peter Navarro was already shackled and dragged out of Reagan airport by now.
02:01:04.000 This is how I know.
02:01:05.000 Steve Bannon was in jail by now.
02:01:07.000 You talk about the Brennan investigation and Comey.
02:01:09.000 Sure, sure.
02:01:10.000 And those are good things, but this is how I know that Trump admin's not evil.
02:01:14.000 Trump could literally just be like, you know, give me a list of 50 names that we don't like between business, you know, politicos, activists.
02:01:23.000 I don't know, give me 100 names.
02:01:25.000 And then we'll just release this as our formalized DOJ official statement of the names we believe were involved.
02:01:30.000 And then they can sue.
02:01:30.000 Good luck.
02:01:31.000 Like, Trump could do that.
02:01:33.000 Like, the amount of power Trump has in just naming anybody without evidence, doesn't even matter if he gives that.
02:01:38.000 Yeah, I mean, you could definitely, you know, when you guys spin it like that, I mean, yeah, you could have absolutely, you know, went on retribution.
02:01:46.000 Because the thing is, you know, I've even said it, like, they tried to destroy him.
02:01:49.000 You know, I covered all of his criminal cases extensively.
02:01:51.000 And the one that really had me the most worried that I think would have jammed him up was the classified document case, actually.
02:01:57.000 Because people were saying, oh, yeah, it's classified.
02:01:58.000 He could declassify it.
02:01:59.000 Dude, it's NDI, National Defense Information.
02:02:02.000 You're cooked.
02:02:02.000 Like, it doesn't matter what the classification is.
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02:04:33.000 Yeah, so Myra was just asking about the live events, and I was saying, just show up.
02:04:38.000 It's the 26th, the 2nd, and the 9th are the three we have planned right now.
02:04:44.000 In DC, in DC primary.
02:04:45.000 July this month, end of this month.
02:04:47.000 Yeah, July 26th, August 2nd, August 9th.
02:04:49.000 Okay.
02:04:50.000 And it's going to be a hoot, man.
02:04:52.000 So we're trying to get a big, prominent liberal that I know you guys might don't say anything because we haven't confirmed and I don't want to spook him.
02:04:59.000 But Gavin McGinnis is going to be amazing and hilarious.
02:05:01.000 Matan, I don't know if you guys are familiar with him.
02:05:03.000 I've been on his show before.
02:05:04.000 Matan's funny.
02:05:04.000 He's hilarious.
02:05:05.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:05:06.000 And it's funny.
02:05:07.000 He asks funny questions, but they're good questions.
02:05:10.000 I was watching some of his stuff.
02:05:11.000 The second is Michael Malis and Angry Cops debating police.
02:05:15.000 And I and Alex Stein are hosting.
02:05:17.000 The ninth, we have a couple people we think we have lined up for the ninth event, some prominent liberals.
02:05:22.000 We're getting a lot of interest for liberals on this.
02:05:24.000 I'll tell you, Grant.
02:05:25.000 Just whichever day you want me to come, I'll come up with you.
02:05:28.000 You can come hang out at all of them, man.
02:05:29.000 Okay.
02:05:29.000 Well, if it helps you sell tickets, I'll fucking show them.
02:05:32.000 I mean, if you want to tell people you'll be in D.C. for these dates, because we're bringing up people from the audience to debate as it is.
02:05:38.000 There's an extra seat you can come and join.
02:05:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:05:40.000 And I know the feminists are going to love it.
02:05:42.000 He's here.
02:05:42.000 I want to tell him I'll give a piece of my mind.
02:05:45.000 We should definitely do a dating one for the ninth.
02:05:46.000 Yeah.
02:05:47.000 Like feminism and dating.
02:05:48.000 I was going to say, Myron, you always get hot bitches on your show.
02:05:51.000 I don't think there are going to be a lot of hot bitches at the end.
02:05:53.000 No, that's fine.
02:05:54.000 It makes it look better for me.
02:05:55.000 I'm going to say you're ugly.
02:05:56.000 Please, Myron, plant hot women at some of these.
02:05:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:05:59.000 Because Tim's fans, I mean, they're great people, but they're not the most beautiful, dumb bimbo women.
02:06:03.000 I'll tell you what.
02:06:04.000 No offense to the audience.
02:06:06.000 Look at this guy.
02:06:06.000 A lot.
02:06:06.000 You're not making friends tonight.
02:06:08.000 I've seen Myron's show, and he has a lineup of Florida Floozies, man.
02:06:14.000 I'll tell you what, dude, if you want to do that, we'll fucking go.
02:06:17.000 It'll go crazy if you should.
02:06:18.000 If you say, hey, Marlowe B here, all the feminists, because I could, you know, feminism.
02:06:23.000 Oh, you know.
02:06:24.000 Israel, whatever you want to do.
02:06:26.000 Who's a debate?
02:06:27.000 Big feminist who would do it.
02:06:28.000 It's like on stage at a comedy club.
02:06:30.000 They're meant to be funny.
02:06:32.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:06:33.000 That's kind of an oxymoron.
02:06:34.000 Like feminist funny.
02:06:35.000 Well, they're funny in a way.
02:06:37.000 The idea is like we're going to get...
02:06:41.000 Yeah.
02:06:42.000 And then we had this guy piece go on and we were yelling and debating.
02:06:45.000 But there was one moment that I think really exemplifies it is that he asked me a question.
02:06:49.000 I started giving an answer and he's like, that's pussy shit.
02:06:51.000 That's pussy shit.
02:06:52.000 And I was like, everyone's like, boom.
02:06:54.000 And I'm like, oh, come on.
02:06:55.000 And then I waited and I was like, you want to play me, bro?
02:06:57.000 I'll play you.
02:06:58.000 So I waited like 20 minutes.
02:06:59.000 And then as soon as he started giving me an answer, I went, that's pussy shit.
02:07:02.000 And then everyone started laughing.
02:07:03.000 And then he gave me a fist bump.
02:07:04.000 And I'm like, he was like, you got me.
02:07:06.000 Yeah, no, it'll be hilarious, man.
02:07:08.000 I'll come.
02:07:08.000 We can do it against, you know, you know me, I make fun of.
02:07:11.000 I'm like feminist arts nemesis, bro.
02:07:13.000 Like it's the final boss for these hoes.
02:07:15.000 The reason we're doing, it's a 200-seater is because we want walk-ins.
02:07:19.000 Okay.
02:07:19.000 Like we want people to be like, I'm going to come to this show and see what's up.
02:07:23.000 So we're actually trying to get some comedian personalities, like liberal comedian types.
02:07:27.000 They exist, right?
02:07:28.000 And I think it'll be epic.
02:07:30.000 That's awesome.
02:07:31.000 Let's plan it out then, dude.
02:07:32.000 Let's talk about this for the uncensored portion of the show.
02:07:35.000 Yeah.
02:07:36.000 Elmo says to kill all the Jews.
02:07:39.000 Yes.
02:07:39.000 No, I'm just kidding.
02:07:41.000 I saw that hack last night.
02:07:43.000 I was watching that hack.
02:07:44.000 That hack is going wild and shit, too, with that stuff.
02:07:46.000 Dude, this is, it's, oh, what the fuck, man.
02:07:49.000 Yeah, it's absolutely nuts.
02:07:50.000 I don't know.
02:07:51.000 Someone is going wild.
02:07:52.000 So here's the thing, right?
02:07:54.000 Contrary to everyone, you know, saying the things that they say, I honestly think that it's probably not a good idea to run around saying crazy shit like that.
02:08:00.000 Cause what ends up happening is when you try to have like intellectual debates on like real problems, what ends up happening is like they just like, you say, oh, you just hate Jews and they don't take you seriously.
02:08:09.000 So I think it's really important, right?
02:08:11.000 We can make jokes and shit like that, but I think it's very important to like, you know, stick to the facts and not just blame you.
02:08:16.000 It's the Jews.
02:08:17.000 It's like, for example, people say, Jews did 9-11.
02:08:19.000 I'm always like, okay, look, dude.
02:08:21.000 If you're going to go ahead and go down that road, it's like, it's very important to like talk about the nuances, right?
02:08:25.000 How these individuals were caught.
02:08:27.000 They were dancing, celebrating it.
02:08:28.000 Two of them, you know, pailed polygraphs.
02:08:30.000 They had ties to, you know, to Israeli intelligence, right?
02:08:33.000 Are we going to sit there and say the Jews did 9-11?
02:08:35.000 No.
02:08:35.000 But what we'll say is that there's definitely fingerprints of it.
02:08:37.000 Myron, who did 9-11?
02:08:39.000 Oh, God.
02:08:40.000 It was a combination of the Saudi Arabians, Al-Qaeda, United States Deep State, and the Israeli government.
02:08:47.000 The Israelis got in it too.
02:08:49.000 Of course.
02:08:50.000 No, I was just.
02:08:51.000 I mean, if he said it was only the Jews, I'd be like, no, no, no.
02:08:53.000 It's like finally the Muslims and Jews could do something together.
02:08:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:08:57.000 9-11.
02:08:58.000 That's why you have to keep them apart.
02:09:00.000 That's why you're going to be able to get it.
02:09:01.000 That's a good way to look at it.
02:09:02.000 You have to go through this.
02:09:02.000 You can keep them together.
02:09:04.000 For the sake of not being called a wild conspiracy theorist, let me just go through this very quickly.
02:09:08.000 The reason why I say that, right?
02:09:10.000 And I'm very reluctant to just say, who's the Jews?
02:09:12.000 Because it was a bunch of different people that had a vested interest, right?
02:09:15.000 So obviously, Al-Qaeda was planning this attack, right?
02:09:18.000 And Saudi Arabia intelligence kind of knew about this, and so did Israeli intelligence.
02:09:22.000 Now, the issue here is that Israeli intelligence knew about this, and they were following the hijackers around using a moving company, Urban Moving Systems, and they were attracting these guys, Muhammad Adan, all these guys towards the list.
02:09:33.000 Al-Qaeda is literally the one training, paying for, and encouraging these people to do it, their actual agents, it's different than if some intel agency had an inkling that they would do it.
02:09:43.000 Because I'm assuming anything Mossad knew about this, the CIA and FBI probably also knew.
02:09:47.000 So like to say that Jews are responsible because the Mossad may have had some inkling, I think really strips away like who's actually responsible.
02:09:56.000 And it was Sunni Muslim extremists from Saudi Arabia and I believe a couple of other groups.
02:10:00.000 Well, sure.
02:10:00.000 That's why I said it was a combination of different entities.
02:10:03.000 Well, it's not even a combination.
02:10:05.000 It's one group was responsible, and other intel agencies may have had a lead on it.
02:10:09.000 But I think those are like manifestly different things.
02:10:12.000 Well, the issue is that we give Israel an enormous amount of aid and we give them a lot of support.
02:10:18.000 So for them to know that this was happening and to not intervene or, you know, or them to be there celebrating the attack, which is what was going on basically with these dancing Israelis that were caught in New Jersey, you know, I just think that that's unacceptable, especially when they're supposed to be an ally.
02:10:32.000 So not only did they know that it was going to happen, but they were there celebrating the attack, documenting the attack, and then wanted to flee out of the country until they were caught by the local police and eventually interviewed by the FBI.
02:10:42.000 They were in immigration custody for like 70 days.
02:10:45.000 They were lying to the FBI, failing polygraph tests.
02:10:47.000 And then, you know, records checks show that two of them were Israeli intelligence.
02:10:50.000 Polygraph tests insofar as what, them being responsible for about the foreknowledge.
02:10:57.000 And then what ended up happening was they admitted, they went back to Israel.
02:11:00.000 They got deported.
02:11:02.000 They got deported.
02:11:03.000 That's how crazy.
02:11:04.000 And then when they went back, basically they admitted that they knew what happened.
02:11:07.000 But all of this is to say al-Qaeda is manifestly responsible for the hijackers.
02:11:12.000 Can you guys talk about this?
02:11:13.000 For sure.
02:11:14.000 Yeah.
02:11:14.000 For sure.
02:11:15.000 Let's talk about Elmo, dude.
02:11:17.000 Well, it all goes back to the Jews, man.
02:11:19.000 Putting together a team.
02:11:20.000 Look.
02:11:21.000 I just wanted to.
02:11:22.000 Can you throw a Myron on there?
02:11:23.000 I'm kidding.
02:11:24.000 Yeah, putting me in there, sure.
02:11:25.000 I mean, it's missing.
02:11:26.000 You get four pictures on Twitter.
02:11:28.000 So they really dropped the ball.
02:11:29.000 I'd be with them.
02:11:30.000 But yeah, no.
02:11:32.000 It was a clever hack of Elmo, though.
02:11:33.000 Like, if you're going to say something vilely anti-Semitic, I think Elmo was probably the right characteristic.
02:11:39.000 I think it was too non-controversial.
02:11:41.000 Like, it was too on the nose, like, a little bit more subtle.
02:11:44.000 Gets the new thing.
02:11:45.000 Anti-Semitism, like this, frankly, I think, is a little bit played out.
02:11:48.000 Convenient coming from me.
02:11:49.000 And terrible, terrible security by the PBS Sesame Street group, right?
02:11:55.000 Like, I mean, what was Elmo's password?
02:11:57.000 You know, I mean, how did they hack Elmo so effortlessly?
02:12:00.000 Phishing.