Biden pardons his own son, Hunter Biden, and the media reacts. Plus, MyPillow is back with a new Christmas extravaganza, and Black Friday sales are here! Tim Cawthorn is joined by special guest Madison Madison to discuss all of this and much more.
00:00:23.000So for the entire year, Joe Biden said he would not pardon his son and he would not pardon And sure, all the people in media acted like they believed it.
00:00:31.000And then, of course, yesterday, Joe Biden announced he would be pardoning Hunter Biden.
00:00:35.000Now, the funny thing is, it wasn't just a simple, hey, you know, the past couple of years he's been charged over these crimes related to a gun and some taxes.
00:00:42.000So I'm going to say you are pardoned because you're my son and I love you.
00:00:45.000He said everything you've done or may have done or will do From January 1st, 2014 to December 1st, 2024 is you are pardoned.
00:00:57.000And so certainly it doesn't seem to make sense that this was just about a gun charge.
00:01:03.000This is likely to do with the Burisma scandal and international influence peddling.
00:01:07.000And it's being masked as though it's just because the DOJ is is selectively prosecuting Hunter Biden, which makes no sense because it was his DOJ. So we'll talk about that.
00:01:21.000Karine Jean-Pierre in the press briefing is just getting absolutely roasted by the press because, of course, Joe Biden lied the whole time and they all believed it.
00:03:34.000So you can hang out in the Discord server, and I assure you, the members-only Uncensored show tonight is going to be particularly fun, and it's going to get wild.
00:03:44.000Because we were already before the show having a hoot and I had to tell the boys, settle down.
00:04:29.000Yeah, but anyway, so I live in the great state of Florida, and then I got a call that Tim Poole was looking for somebody to come on here.
00:04:34.000Last time I was on this show, I had just woken up from a nap because the great Luke Ball gave me a phone call.
00:04:39.000But anyways, I said yes to it thinking you were in Washington, D.C., but then I found out great news that we weren't doing in Washington, D.C. We were doing it in the great state of West Virginia.
00:04:47.000And I will tell you, I love the people in West Virginia.
00:05:38.000I think I have the actual statement here from Joe himself.
00:05:43.000He says, today I signed a pardon for my son Hunter from the day I took office.
00:05:46.000I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department's decision-making, and I kept my word even as I have watched my son being selectively and unfairly prosecuted.
00:05:51.000Without aggravating factors like using a crime, multiple purchases, or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser, people are almost never brought to trial on a felony charge solely for how they filled out a gun form.
00:05:59.000Those who are late paying their taxes because of serious addictions but paid them back subsequently with interests and penalties are typically given non-criminal resolutions.
00:06:06.000It is clear that Hunter was treated differently.
00:06:08.000He then basically says, no reasonable person who looks at the facts.
00:06:50.000free to commit any federal crime he wanted because the pardon was that broad.
00:06:54.000We have not seen something like this in generations or ever.
00:06:58.000And it is I believe it is fair to say, and I stand by my belief in this, that this was the intention is to cover up the international influence peddling China, Moscow and the Burisma in Ukraine.
00:07:14.000I normally don't make big assumptions like this, but I actually think the gun charge and the tax charge were intentionally brought about for the purpose of giving Joe Biden plausible deniability when he did pardon Hunter Biden.
00:07:28.000So we were asking ourselves all throughout the year, like, why are they charging Hunter?
00:07:33.000I mean, this is Merrick Garland's DOJ. Joe Biden could fire him and say, don't go after my son.
00:07:46.000I think there's a strong probability that they said, hey, if we lose this election, Trump is coming after us over Ukraine Burisma and there's nothing we can do about it.
00:08:07.000You give him a couple light charges that are weird, and then they say, we're going to pardon him for these charges, but make the timeframe very broad so it'll cover all of those Burisma-related scandals as well.
00:08:36.000Yeah, I don't know that I have a take on that, but...
00:08:39.000I mean, it's possible, but I don't have any kind of inclination for or against that.
00:08:45.000But that being besides the point, it is clear that this is about more than just the gun and tax charges, because there's no reason to go back to 10 years.
00:08:59.000I would like to see Congress subpoena Hunter Biden now because he's no longer protected by the Fifth Amendment.
00:09:05.000So he would have to actually answer any questions.
00:09:09.000He can no longer say, oh, I stand on the Fifth Amendment.
00:09:11.000So if there is anything that's violated the law that either I believe his uncle has done or that his dad has done, he would be obligated to discuss it or talk about it.
00:09:24.000He couldn't say, oh, I refuse to comment on this because it could implicate me so far.
00:09:30.000I've heard that, but it's kind of strange because that means this pardon covers every single potential crime he could have committed, meaning he has to testify to any of the weirdest things he may have done completely outside of any of these scandals.
00:10:36.000There's two reasons why I would disagree he should not have pardoned his son.
00:10:40.000And I'll throw it to Matt Walsh, who made the point almost immediately.
00:10:43.000You know, it's one thing to protect your son because you don't want him to go to prison, but it's another thing to enable your son to be a...
00:10:49.000I mean, a bad guy who's creating shell corporations or whatever he's accused of doing to bypass taxes.
00:10:54.000You're not actually helping your son if you keep bailing him out of all the horrible things he does.
00:10:59.000But I think he should have got the pardon because I wanted to see him challenge the gun charge to the Supreme Court to get it thrown out.
00:11:04.000That they're charging him for self-incriminating on a Knicks form.
00:11:08.000So when I'm looking at this, you have to also consider that he waited until this point and said for this long he was not going to pardon his son because they threw every wrench in the system that they possibly could for an extended period of time.
00:11:23.000They stopped this from getting prosecuted in Washington, D.C. They stopped it from getting prosecuted in Florida.
00:11:30.000I think he truly walked out there for a period of time and said, I will not pardon my son.
00:11:35.000And the reason is because he thought that he could use that leverage of power from his position as president to stop the process.
00:11:42.000And so once Donald Trump won, then all the floodgates were going to open up against Hunter Biden.
00:11:48.000And just remember what they did to Donald Trump.
00:11:51.000I mean, they sent Miami SWAT through his front door because he had allegedly documents in his building.
00:11:56.000I mean, To the rest of the presidents and vice presidents, NARA, the National Archives Records Administration, basically issued a casting call.
00:12:03.000Said, check between your couch cushions and make sure you don't have any classified documents, like H.W. Bush was going to find something from Saddam Hussein in his chest of drawers, right?
00:12:12.000But instead, they send all of the police and, you know, basically raid Mar-a-Lago over allegedly having documents.
00:12:19.000And in addition to that, continue to throw lawfare after lawfare against him through the Merrick Garland Department of Justice.
00:12:25.000And so once Trump wins, they realize we're no longer going to be able to use the wheels of our justice to our advantage.
00:12:32.000And it's completely off the table now.
00:12:33.000So he might have gone out there for months saying, I will not pardon my son because he thought he could use his position of power to his family's advantage.
00:12:42.000It's possible that they didn't think they would lose.
00:12:44.000They didn't think they were going to lose.
00:14:05.000So I do think that the intent was to set the stage for a second Biden administration.
00:14:15.000I don't think that it was about – I don't think that they believed that they were going to lose.
00:14:22.000I think that they believed that – All of the years of, you know, four years of, well, eight years of Donald Trump's the baddest man in the world and the orange man bad and et cetera, et cetera.
00:14:32.000I think they believe that they were going to win.
00:14:34.000I think that they probably were believing the internal polling saying that, you know, Donald Trump wasn't going to be able to beat Joe Biden.
00:14:43.000And I think that it came up and it bit him in the ass.
00:14:44.000And also you've really got to think about when Joe Biden came up through the ranks in politics.
00:14:48.000In his mind, he had everything going for him that he needed to have.
00:15:22.000We had this viral video, nine minutes of Democrats and liberal media saying that Joe would never pardon his son.
00:15:28.000And this morning I was thinking nine minutes is too long.
00:15:32.000I don't want to watch nine minutes of these people.
00:15:34.000It's bad enough I got to watch one minute of them.
00:15:36.000So I decided I would make my own edit of it where every time they say it, it speeds up and exponentially increases in speed until it's incomprehensible shrieking, which to be fair is already the case.
00:15:47.000But I will play a little bit just so you can hear it.
00:15:49.000And this is not about me making the joke.
00:15:50.000It's about you understanding the media and how they responded to Joe saying he would not issue this pardon.
00:16:56.000This story, according to a Sunday report from NBC News, during the same period when Joe was saying we will not do it publicly and on TV and everyone in the media was acting like they believed them, they say, quote, the president had discussed pardoning his son with some of his closest aides, at least since Hunter Biden's conviction in June, said two people with direct knowledge of the discussions about the matter.
00:17:14.000They said it was decided at the time that he would publicly say he would not pardon his son, even though doing so remained on the table.
00:17:40.000When they're sitting there saying, well, look, he said he's not going to do it.
00:17:43.000And then they act surprised that behind the scenes he was saying he'd do it the whole time.
00:17:48.000I think this is an Occam's razor type situation where the simplest explanation is really what's going on.
00:17:54.000Joe Biden was always going to pardon Hunter Biden.
00:17:56.000Well, originally he was going for the sweetheart plea deal that the judge had to throw out.
00:18:01.000The judge who was ruling in that case had to throw up because he thought it was so ridiculous because it also included that part where he couldn't be convicted for any other crime that he committed in the past decade or so.
00:19:36.000They think they need to hold your hand throughout everything and that they are your elites.
00:19:39.000And that's why there's a two-tiered system of justice.
00:19:41.000And the media is not pissed off that Hunter Biden was pardoned.
00:19:45.000They're pissed off that now we get compilations like this of them defending the president and saying that he said he would not pardon them.
00:19:54.000And this is like the third or fourth time in the last few weeks that something like this has happened.
00:21:21.000And this is something that I think is going to give Donald Trump a lot of ammunition.
00:21:25.000It now is the former outgoing president who is a hardcore Democrat who's been one of the most liberal presidents we've ever had is now saying the DOJ is corrupt to its core, which is something a talking point all of MAGA has been saying for the last eight years.
00:21:37.000And I think this has given us a lot of ammunition to now be able to say, hey, we need to burn this institution to the ground and rebuild something that values the Constitution and the rule of law.
00:21:46.000It's worth mentioning this is the Merrick Garland Department of Justice.
00:21:50.000This isn't any Trump loyalists really bringing these charges up.
00:21:54.000It's Merrick Garland, the lapdog of Joe Biden.
00:21:55.000And remember, they didn't just lose the election.
00:21:58.000They have lost their blue wall of bureaucracy in D.C. The number of lawyers within the Department of Justice that are writing their resignation letters this second right now is astronomical.
00:22:10.000I think that once we get somebody in that Department of Justice that actually is going to enforce the rule of law and go after the lawfare that has been going after Donald Trump for so long, they're going to have to have an enormous amount of applications that pour into that agency because it's just going.
00:22:25.000There's an article right now, I saw it in Politico, that D.C. residents are concerned about their property values.
00:22:31.000Yeah, going down because of the sheer amount of bureaucrats and government workers that are going to be fired and leaving Washington, D.C.
00:22:50.000There are some absolutely beautiful properties, and there should be...
00:22:54.000I mean, never mind what they're actually going to cut and get rid of, but the idea of getting departments out of Washington is a great idea as well.
00:23:03.000Get them out into different parts of the country, get them away from D.C. so that way you do not have a unified political opinion.
00:23:11.00096% of the people in D.C. voted for Kamala Harris.
00:23:47.000And not only can you send them all over the country, you can send them to places where it makes sense, where the staffing is people that understand it.
00:23:53.000Why would the Department of Agriculture not be in Kansas, in the center of all these cornfields?
00:24:21.000It's also worth noting that when you pointed out like 90% of D.C. voted for Kamala, we have had generation after generation of Republican staffers and congressmen go and live and vote in Washington, D.C. And the way that town is structured is that you have to kiss up to the lobbyists and the special interests while you are either elected to Capitol Hill or working on Capitol Hill as a staffer, or else your career goes nowhere.
00:24:47.000If you don't actually build out your relationships with K Street then you're not going to advance to these cushy jobs.
00:24:52.000And so we put Republicans in office who sit there long enough and realize they can get very comfortable showing up to all the swanky dinners and just capitulating to the special interests.
00:25:02.000Then they get their $500,000 a year position at K Street in these lobbying firms, and they slowly become a Democrat.
00:25:09.000Very few people go up there to change that town.
00:25:11.000And you know this better than anybody else, that if you go up there and start trying to actually change the city systematically, then you are going to be basically just humiliated as much as possible.
00:25:28.000He wasn't even doing anything that ridiculous.
00:25:30.000When you look at the people he chose for his cabinet the first time around, a lot of people groaned.
00:25:35.000A lot of populists, a lot of libertarians were like, Bolton is a great example.
00:25:39.000And they still tried to destroy him and accuse him of being a traitor to this country working for Russia and, dare I say it on MSNBC, the Soviet Union, which doesn't exist.
00:25:49.000But these people were never accused of being smart.
00:25:53.000The reason why people hated Donald Trump in Washington so much is because he messed up people's long-term career plans.
00:25:59.000And I'm sure everyone at the table understands this.
00:26:01.000But in Washington, D.C., you've got to think people's career spans are only about 20 years.
00:26:04.000So normally you're going to work on Capitol Hill for about 10 years, might become a deputy chief of staff, maybe a chief of staff.
00:26:10.000But then you're going to go spend two years of stint on K Street and you're going to understand what some lobbying company wants you to do.
00:26:15.000And then you're going to say, oh, because I care so much about this country, I'm going to go back into the government.
00:26:20.000But really, you are secretly working for K Street still.
00:26:23.000You will then come in as a chief of staff.
00:26:24.000You will direct it because the majority of congressmen literally just are handed their vote cards.
00:26:28.000They have no idea what they're voting on.
00:26:29.000They're going to go there and all your chief of staff is running it.
00:26:32.000I mean, literally, your staff is policy.
00:26:34.000And so then you're going to go push the interest of whatever lobbying group you worked for last time.
00:26:38.000So then when you leave in six years, for the last three years of your career on Capitol Hill, you will then be a senior partner of one of these K Street firms and you will make $400,000 to $500,000 a year.
00:26:47.000And that is people's entire retirement plan.
00:26:49.000So when Donald Trump came in and wanted to import a lot of the low-level staffers, it messed up a lot of people's opportunities to go and make these opportunities for these K Street lobbying firms.
00:27:00.000And that is why people hate him so much inside the city.
00:27:03.000The big problem is the bureaucracy and the fact that the politicians are actually removed from the people that can actually have repercussions on them.
00:27:21.000So the people that are making the decisions and the people that are actually making policy and stuff like that, it's people that can't be fired or that can't be booted by the electorate.
00:27:32.000It's people that are bureaucrats and stuff.
00:27:36.000If the people are unhappy with a politician, the politician may not get elected.
00:27:40.000But the people that are working on K Street, like you said, the lobbyists, they're all the same people.
00:27:44.000And they're going to find another person to work for.
00:27:47.000And it doesn't matter if it was this guy or that guy.
00:27:50.000They're going to be doing the exact same job.
00:27:52.000And that's why people can elect new politicians.
00:27:59.000Essentially the same things that were happening before continue to go on.
00:28:03.000The policy actually doesn't change, and it's necessary to make the kind of cuts that Donald Trump is talking about.
00:28:11.000And I love the fact that Donald Trump is talking about this, but I don't care if it's Donald Trump.
00:28:18.000So if it was a libertarian that got in there, if Rand Paul was the guy doing it, I'd be backing Rand Paul.
00:28:23.000Or Mike Lee or anyone with that kind of interest to actually make real cuts to the government, to make real changes, to put the power back into the hands of the electorate, back into the hands of the people.
00:28:40.000Because right now, it's all in a bureaucracy.
00:28:46.000It's why I love the House way more than the Senate, because you stay up there for six years, you solidify incumbency, and the American people have a very short memory.
00:29:05.000It was a very humble thing to do, and I really appreciate it.
00:29:08.000And also, you know, he parroted some Vivek Ramaswamy talking points because for so long we've all said, well, you know, this is the largest union in the country.
00:29:14.000We can't fire bureaucrats, so what can we do?
00:29:19.000The only way to do it is to do mass layoffs of the federal government for fiscal reasons, and then you can get rid of 80 to 90 percent of these people who legitimately don't matter.
00:29:27.000And people who are concerned about that happening, like, well, what's going to happen?
00:29:32.000Think about whenever the government shuts down.
00:30:18.000Well, my concern is that if Elon and Vivek do get in there and they start gutting a lot of these programs, how are we going to know what happens when you give hamsters cocaine and put them in a fighting ring?
00:31:00.000If it's my tax money, I want to be sitting front row, I want Dana White announcing it, and I want to hear which hamster is going in.
00:31:07.000Now, there have been some people pointed out that some of these studies do sound weird, but are for a reason.
00:31:13.000Like, they might give a certain drug to an animal to see if it increases aggression or decreases because they don't want to test on humans.
00:31:19.000But my point is largely, so much of our money is going to things that, let's just call it triage.
00:31:25.000You want to take a look at what happens when a certain drug impacts an animal because you want to see if there's a relation to how humans may behave or something like that.
00:31:41.000How about we fix our roads, fix our bridges?
00:31:44.000I gotta tell you, if we're sending another $725 million to Ukraine, How about this?
00:31:49.000You just say, okay, same thing, but here.
00:31:52.000It's here, and we're going to, I don't know, build some roads.
00:31:54.000I'm pretty sure that Ukraine is now located, my geography is bad, but I think it's Western North Carolina that was just rocked by a massive hurricane.
00:32:01.000I think they could use some roads there.
00:32:02.000And the fact that we literally have the 35th Engineering Group, based in North Carolina, who can create a bridge for the military to cross in about 30 seconds with some of their machines, yet we could not get a bridge to get people out and get to their homes in Western North Carolina is insane to me.
00:32:17.000It legitimately made me angry that – and we were talking about it a little bit before the show – the government comes in and says it will take two to three months for us to fix this road, and a bunch of grizzled vets from the mountains come down and do it in 48 hours.
00:32:30.000And, Phil, you're going to love this because I used to actually be – I'm always pretty libertarian-leaning on a lot of my beliefs that most things should be legalized.
00:32:38.000You should allow the people to just figure out what they want.
00:32:40.000But I always – there was the talking point that I used to back a lot saying, well, who's going to build the roads?
00:33:11.000Well, we're going to talk about KGP. All right, here we go.
00:33:13.000let's go she takes a verbal flogging from reporters after biden there we go i like that because she's she i i do kind of feel bad for her i gotta be honest because she's tasked with lying for one of the stupidest administrations this country's ever seen and even as bad as she is at her job it's like she's trying to do it but then behind you i mean you've got stumbling fumbling
00:33:36.000joe who can't speak straight hunter biden committing crimes in brisma and she's desperately trying to spin something together, but she's going to take the full brunt of this.
00:33:45.000So one of the most fascinating things that came out of this was when someone said, how deep is the rot at the DOJ? This is a journalist asking Corrine Jean-Pierre.
00:33:57.000You have said repeatedly yourself since the election, the president has said for months, no pardon was coming.
00:34:03.000I just, I wanted to ask you, could those statements now be seen as lies from the American people?
00:34:09.000Is there really a credibility issue here given now this announcement?
00:34:12.000First of all, One of the things that the president always believes is to be truthful to the American people.
00:34:18.000That is something that he always truly believes.
00:34:21.000And if you see the end of his, I assume that you've read his statement and you look at the end of that statement, and he actually says that in the first line in the last paragraph.
00:34:39.000But the problem for her now and this decaying administration is they've probably lied in every possible direction, claiming both things at the same time.
00:34:50.000And now, I mentioned this in the previous segment, but I'll say it again.
00:34:53.000The question the press is asking her is how deep is the rot at the DOJ? I mean, that's funny because it's no longer...
00:35:01.000Trump has long said it's being weaponized.
00:35:03.000Trump supporters, many people have said the DOJ is weaponized against the political rivals.
00:35:07.000And now you've got Karine Jean-Pierre as part of an administration where Joe Biden literally just said it's elective prosecution.
00:35:19.000That clip reminded me of sending Daniel into the lion's den with a bowl of salad trying to convince the lions that it is good to eat and not allowing them to just completely attack her.
00:35:31.000The two-faced lies coming from this administration every single time that they put her out there.
00:35:39.000And this is a thing that I think we need to understand about people in the media, people like Kareem Jean-Pierre.
00:35:44.000Their number one thing they hate the most, and this is something you were touching on earlier, Tim, is being embarrassed.
00:35:49.000And so when they have to come out and they're parroting their normal talking points for the left, which they always do, then all of a sudden the left goes and does a 180. Joe Biden does drop out.
00:37:32.000To be fair, her job is to lie and then get called out for it and just try to keep lying and send the media off of the trail of whatever they're trying to accomplish.
00:37:40.000I mean, you're right, but you look at the way that McEnany did her job.
00:37:48.000I think Donald Trump is going to be great, but Donald Trump was very loose with facts and he was very, very loose with the way he spoke.
00:37:57.000And KJP, just when it comes to the way that Biden lies compared to the way that McEnany would deal with things that Donald Trump said that were skirting the truth or were incorrect or whatever.
00:38:16.000Just McEnany handled the press and handled Donald Trump incredibly professionally.
00:38:23.000And she generally made the press look bad.
00:38:27.000KJP, I mean, like I said, if I were, I can't imagine how she looks herself in the mirror every day because not only does she have to go out there and defend some of the most blatant lies, but she does it so badly that you're not buying it.
00:38:43.000At least Mack and Amy, you were like, okay, yeah, you know, she's got that book, she's...
00:38:47.000Pulling up things that people said and she had all these things marked because she knew what they were going to ask that day.
00:38:54.000Every single day, she knew what the press was going to ask because she knew what Donald Trump had said.
00:38:59.000KJP comes out there and she doesn't have good answers for the things that Joe Biden has said.
00:39:07.000Yeah, and I'll tell you, I think Kayleigh McEnany and her sister Ryan, they're literally once-in-generation talents on handling the media.
00:39:13.000And the thing that I love about Kayleigh is no matter what Donald Trump would say, and then the media would start going off like, oh, well, actually, this isn't true, and we think that this was exaggerated.
00:39:22.000As soon as Kayleigh all of a sudden would hear that, she would say, oh, we're going to page 42. And I'd love to have she would turn, have her great French tip nails, all of a sudden turn, and then just run.
00:39:30.000Rip this person a new one and then bring out receipts and then it turned out, oh wait, Donald Trump was telling the truth.
00:39:35.000It's like literally when they're saying, oh, the water's turning the frogs gay.
00:39:40.000Thank God for RFK. We're going to fix that problem.
00:39:42.000Republicans have to be prepared with the media.
00:39:45.000Democrats have not had to be prepared for the media, and now they are getting a little taste of it, a small taste of it, because she came out there all prepared.
00:39:53.000KJP could have just walked out there and had basically her time in the sun and just enjoyed it and soaked it up.
00:39:59.000But even on Capitol Hill, when you are dealing with reporters, they will treat you differently.
00:40:04.000With the Democrats, they're writing up your bill on the latest legislation that you wrote.
00:40:08.000And with Republicans, it is taking your words and twisting them wildly out of context and then asking you for comment five minutes before they drop it on the wire.
00:40:14.000You know, I also feel bad for Jen Psaki because She was better.
00:40:19.000I actually gave her praise because I'm like, as liars go, she's crafty.
00:40:24.000She's not great, but she does a good job.
00:40:27.000But she goes to MSNBC and now it's just...
00:40:30.000And now Alex Jones is going to buy her out.
00:40:32.000Yeah, she jumped ship to go to a sinking ship, and it's like, oof, man.
00:40:36.000Well, you know, you can only feel so bad because part of me, there's just the schadenfreude of, like, you are evil people, you lie, cheat, and steal, you have disdain for the working class in this country, you have disdain for the population of this country, and this is what happens when you're a bad person, so what can I say?
00:40:51.000Yeah, but the big thing is, you know, we got Caroline Levitt coming in as press secretary, and I think she had a phenomenal idea, and I think is heavily influenced by Barron.
00:40:58.000But the big thing is that we're going to start opening seats up for alternative media, kind of the new media.
00:41:04.000And having a lot, I mean, I hope, you know, you'll be there as a Jewish Times reporter.
00:41:14.000We're going to start having people who are not tied to editors, who are not tied to people who have to push all of their...
00:41:19.000Because, I mean, you think of places like TimCast, places like Daily Wire.
00:41:22.000They have their subscription service, so you guys are not going to lose your income that's going to float you all the time, so you can actually report the truth.
00:41:29.000And I think having these people in the briefing room is going to be a massive, massive win for the American people.
00:41:35.000I mean, that's the goal is to have that kind of influence.
00:41:41.000But I'm curious as to if you guys think that there's going to be an actual change the way that the media treats the incoming Donald Trump administration because of the fact that there's going to be...
00:41:57.000I mean, I imagine there's going to be some amount of podcast...
00:42:05.000If I understand correctly, the president has been signaling that they're going to have podcasters as people in the press pool.
00:42:13.000And if it's no longer dominated by the people, the establishment media or the legacy media, if it's no longer dominated, do you think that the tone and tenor inside the press pool is going to have to change?
00:42:23.000Or do you think it's going to be something where you're going to have the podcasters and the legacy media bickering amongst each other or whatever?
00:42:36.000But the people who are the White House correspondents for these major networks are trying to be...
00:42:44.000They're trying to run their sizzle reel for the show they want to get.
00:42:49.000So Caitlin Collins, who used to work at the Daily Caller, goes in on CNN, becomes the White House correspondent, and she has these clashes.
00:42:59.000Jim Acosta, same thing with CNN. They view this as their opportunity to try and catch their wave of legitimacy with the Trump administration.
00:43:11.000Follow-up to that, it clearly didn't work out for CNN to have Caitlin Collins or Jim Acosta have their own shows.
00:43:19.000They've watched their viewership go down.
00:43:22.000It's not about CNN. It's about the person themselves.
00:43:25.000They are trying to say, how can I best appeal to the virality of the opportunity?
00:43:32.000So, like, if I clash with the President of the United States or the Press Secretary in the briefing room and I go viral...
00:43:39.000Then the libs are going to love that, and then all of the folks at the station are going to say, this person gets ratings, they must have their own show, or they're generating revenue in some way.
00:43:49.000So it's all about that individual getting their moment, because then they will...
00:43:55.000They have contracts, but they'll use it to their leverage.
00:43:57.000If another network offers them a better position, then they're going to go towards that.
00:44:00.000And they're going to bring their social media following and their persona over to that network and then continue to clash with the president.
00:44:07.000So this is an amazing opportunity for people.
00:44:10.000in liberal media to make their mark because there will be others who get their own show after two or three years and then hold the administration accountable and get a bump of ratings off that and doesn't mean that long term it's going to work out i mean like newsmax is beating cnn just about every night right now uh msnbc is about to get sold off to something however those individuals themselves have made a stamp in their career for themselves and frankly they've already made their millions too that's absolutely great and
00:44:37.000But Phil, going back to your point, I do think in the briefing room, when you're going to have kind of the podcasters and people, alternative media in there, and then you're going to have the legacy media in there, I do believe there's going to be, for the first few months, maybe a year, kind of there's going to be like a scene from Mean Girls where they're like, oh, you guys aren't actually from us.
00:45:15.000Yeah, but you see this guy with his shirt off, and he's freaking jacked at 70 years old.
00:45:19.000It's like, okay, the proof's in the pudding.
00:45:21.000And I think that's what people are going to start realizing with these podcasters, asking honest questions the American people want to know, and they're starting to get massive rating bumps.
00:45:27.000Honest question is, what is in his pudding?
00:45:29.000Well, not red dye number 30. It is a strong TRT. I guarantee that guy's getting about two...
00:45:36.000He's getting a lot of TRT. It's called gear, man.
00:45:54.000We welcome people into the right with a big tent party, but I will tell you...
00:45:56.000It's like we forgot he was a Democrat, like, I don't know, eight months ago.
00:45:59.000Well, let me tell you, but we'll brainwash him.
00:46:01.000The issue is, the Republicans, especially under Donald Trump, are basically saying, we're going to be the big tent party, we're going to welcome people like RFK Jr. in, and then we're going to be the dominant voice in the conversation.
00:46:11.000So, negotiate where you have to, to win the bulk of the political power.
00:46:42.000And so, you know, I'm happy to welcome people on to our party because, one, we might be ideologically different, but this is one thing that I actually like about podcasts.
00:46:50.000I mean, you can look at Tim, you can look at Joe Rogan, you can look at anybody.
00:46:53.000If you force Americans, people with brains, to sit down and have honest conversations where they actually have to not use talking points, they're actually using common sense, then people are always going to start shifting to the right because our side just makes sense.
00:47:05.000And when you actually start thinking about these things, the left talking points fall apart.
00:47:08.000And so when we start welcoming people in like RFK, like Tulsi Gabbard, who have some ideological differences with us, they're now going to have conversations with people who are having very backed up, honest and common sense backed up conversations.
00:47:20.000And I think it's going to move them aggressively to the right.
00:47:22.000Are you concerned that could water down the message a little bit at all?
00:47:26.000Because, for example, like I know Rand Paul, he's a great MAGA guy, but he's against Trump's use of the military for deporting illegal immigrants, for example.
00:47:35.000So, like, if you keep bringing in Democrats, you know, I'm I'm like a 14 weeker when it comes to abortion.
00:47:40.000But for many people in the party, they feel like their voice is getting drowned out when they have people like RFK getting appointed HHS secretary.
00:47:46.000He'll be the most pro choice Republican appointed HHS secretary.
00:47:51.000So it's just, you know, what is your reaction to people saying it's watering down?
00:49:07.000As a member of the media, I for one think Kash Patel is a great choice to lead the FBI. Oh, thank heavens.
00:49:12.000We finally get a sensible liberal over at Slate saying, Kash is a great choice.
00:49:17.000He adds, and I'm not at all saying that because he's threatened to prosecute journalists for having said Donald Trump didn't win the 2020 election.
00:49:27.000So basically, the narrative they're pushing now is that Cash Patel, who was nominated to be FBI director, which is based AF, is a conspiracy theorist who is going to arrest journalists.
00:49:36.000MSNBC's Morning Joe, desperate for ratings, played the clip of Cash saying this three times where he was basically saying he didn't say, I'm going to arrest journalists.
00:49:46.000He said, those that basically conspired against this country and were defrauding the American people, we're going to investigate you, be it civilly or criminally, whichever one we have to do.
00:49:54.000And now they're saying—they're conflating it into he's going to arrest journalists for saying Trump didn't win.
00:49:59.000The best case— Like, if you're a liberal, and you want to make an honest, dark interpretation, is that he is going to sue you for defamation.
00:50:10.000That's their worst case scenario in reality.
00:50:13.000I think this makes sense, given Cash's background.
00:50:18.000Which helped go through all the Russiagate bullshit that he helped clarify through.
00:50:22.000And that's why I think a lot of people have a mark on his back for him.
00:50:25.000And that's why he has a mark for the media, an eye out for the media because of all the filings and Russiagate scandal that he was heavily involved with helping debunk.
00:50:34.000And I mean, the media was in bed with the FBI multiple times throughout the Rush hoax.
00:50:40.000In fact, it was what compiled the Steele dossier.
00:50:44.000It was leaked media reports on purpose from the FBI to the media to compile the Steele dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.
00:50:52.000And that is just one example, in my opinion, of what we know about.
00:50:57.000Like, I don't think they just came up with that.
00:51:00.000I think that that has probably been used in the past.
00:51:03.000And so when he's talking about holding these people accountable...
00:52:00.000This is what Cash brought up on this show.
00:52:02.000Two Antifa lawyers giving up Molotov cocktails during riots in New York, and they wash away the charges and say, okay, we're going to give you a sweetheart deal.
00:52:10.000And then you've got J6ers, some who are still in solitary confinement without charge.
00:52:15.000So, look, if you want to say the J6ers deserve to be in jail, my response is if they committed a crime, they should go to jail.
00:52:22.000And so should the liberals and the leftists who commit crimes, they should go to jail as well.
00:52:25.000And so when we got the five, we call it M29, remember M29, the insurrection, in front of the White House where they forced the president into an emergency bunker, set fire to St. John's Church, and firebombed the White House grounds.
00:52:44.000Now, anybody who was there assaulting a police officer, I think that's a crime.
00:52:49.000But the majority of people, the doors were open.
00:52:51.000You literally had Capitol Police officers walking people through, and those people are sitting there rotting in jail.
00:52:55.000I have talked to several ATF agents in Florida who are upset about their job because they were having to go knock on doors to serve warrants and take people's guns away because they were in the Capitol on January 6th.
00:53:06.000It's an absolutely ridiculous two-tiered system of justice, and it's wrong.
00:53:10.000- Madison, do you have any insight to how other members of Congress, Republicans, your former colleagues felt about January 6th? - I do, yes.
00:53:19.000You know, there were a lot of people who were really upset about it.
00:53:22.000They just thought that, so many people, they didn't really know how to feel about it, because one, we were all on the floor at the time.
00:53:30.000I was about to start the debate to contest the election in Wisconsin.
00:53:36.000All of a sudden, you hear everybody's radios from all the Capitol Police officers start going off, buzzing all around.
00:53:42.000And then you see these guys get really straight-backed.
00:53:43.000And it just kind of changed the feelings in the room, started looking around.
00:53:47.000I had Catherine Treadwell, my deputy chief of staff, in there with me.
00:53:49.000And I just kind of whispered over to her, hey, can you figure out what's going on?
00:53:52.000So she went over and was kind of listening in, and when they came back, the report was, hey, someone has gotten into Statuary Hall.
00:54:00.000Obviously, I think it's just some quick, fast guy who juked out a Capitol Police officer and he's running into the thing.
00:54:06.000Then all of a sudden, we hear, oh, we're evacuating the house floor.
00:54:12.000And this was one of the funniest things that happened because when I got into office, it was during COVID. And so they had a very shortened introduction process for all the new members.
00:54:23.000And so normally they would take you through all the things that you have to do, all the procedures within the Capitol.
00:54:28.000And so when they said we're taking the emergency evacuation route, we all started rolling out.
00:54:32.000And then we got to it because we didn't know what was going on.
00:54:35.000They just said, oh, there's like 6,000 people about to come into these doors.
00:55:28.000Anybody that broke the law should be prosecuted under law.
00:55:31.000I hope cash – because this is the problem that we've had with Republican administrations since I've been paying attention to politics in 2000. When Democrats do something wrong, we just say, oh, well, we're going to be the bigger person, and we're just going to move on from it, and it's going to be okay.
00:55:43.000This has given them a license and an expectation that there are no consequences for their actions.
00:55:49.000And so I genuinely believe that, as you were saying, Phil, the hammer needs to come down of people being held accountable on both sides.
00:55:57.000I'm not saying it should just be on the left.
00:55:58.000The hammer needs to come down so people realize, hey, if you break the Constitution, if you actively work against the commander in chief like is going on within the intel agencies right now, or when Mark Milley is having private meetings.
00:56:16.000Did you see that Glenn Beck clip where he was talking to Cash Patel about the JFK assassination and he was bringing up some of the widely accepted premises and Cash is like, well, you're talking to someone who's seen the actual file.
00:56:34.000And then I think Joe Rogan straight up asked Trump, why didn't you release it?
00:56:39.000And Trump's answer was that there were some people at the time who felt as if it wouldn't be in our best interest to release it.
00:56:47.000But if I get re-elected, I will release the full file.
00:56:50.000I'm very excited to see if that comes to fruition.
00:56:53.000There is, in my opinion, there is nothing that is 40 years old That is over 40 years old that will have any kind of significant impact on modern America, so it should all be declassified.
00:57:06.000And any future declassification, there should be some kind of law passed where any future declassification, there's a sunset on all classified documents.
00:57:13.000But I don't know if I agree on the 40-year thing.
00:57:15.000I agree on everything else, but I think it's going to be a case-by-case basis.
00:57:19.000There are probably documents pertaining to Iran that go back 40 years, which could have an impact on Well, and this is one thing.
00:57:26.000If they are – there's no one that they are continuing to protect within these sealed documents.
00:57:32.000These people are all either very close to death or they're dead.
00:57:35.000We're not trying to send people to jail for what happened.
00:57:37.000What they are doing is they are protecting the institution of the intel communities because there was a coup that happened.
00:57:43.000They shot the president in the freaking head.
00:58:21.000I know Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are probably the most ardent and flaky people for our confirmation hearings that we're going to go through.
00:58:28.000You know, there's some sensible Democrats who I think are in swing states who actually could be kind of – and I say sensible Democrats in jest.
00:58:36.000But who are in swing states where they realize, man, Trump gained a lot of ground in this state.
00:58:40.000I have an election coming up in the midterms.
00:58:42.000I think those people could actually be persuaded to vote for the majority of the picks, probably not the most hard right ones.
00:58:47.000But when you start looking at what Lisa Murkowski and Senator Collins are doing, my entire thought process on that is, one, there is a political mandate that's been given.
00:59:01.000Give Donald Trump the cabinet he needs to be able to execute it.
00:59:04.000And so I think that we're going to have probably 80 to 90 percent of our people get through.
00:59:08.000And I mean, I have to ask, you know, you're a former congressman.
00:59:12.000You have as much MAGA bona fides as anybody else that he's picked for his cabinet.
00:59:16.000Has Trump tried to tap you for anything or what's going on?
00:59:37.000Yeah, I don't know how RFK would feel about it.
00:59:39.000But, man, when I saw the picture of RFK sitting there eating McDonald's, I literally thought it was just one of those situations where there's some drug guys there sitting there, and they're like, hey, do drugs in front of us so we know you're not a cop.
00:59:58.000He even made a statement when Donald Trump was working at McDonald's that having a cheeseburger and fries is one of the most American things you can do.
01:00:05.000And then he was saying, we should just do it in beef tallow, not in seed oil.
01:00:08.000If you watched, he fried a turkey in beef tallow this past weekend.
01:00:13.000But, you know, I will tell you, especially if I was to be able to get ATF, there's so many changes that you can make.
01:00:18.000One, all the frontline boots on the ground guys would be extremely happy because I would have them actually start going after criminals.
01:00:23.000If you want to bring heat-seeking missiles into our country through the southern border, if I was in charge, the ATF is going to be there to...
01:00:31.000And then also, I mean, the cumbersome stuff that they impose on gun store owners, I mean, there's so many redundant pieces of paperwork.
01:00:39.000People will come into these guys, and it's a massive fear for gun store owners because these ATF, you know, just lackeys will come in and say, well, you know what, when you were doing this serial number, this six looks a whole lot like a G, and so that's incorrect, so we're now going to take your license.
01:00:54.000Also, another thing that is really freaky with the ATF is they require...
01:00:58.000All gun stores to keep records in perpetuity of everything they've ever done.
01:01:03.000I know several gun stores in my hometown that have been there for 20, 25 years.
01:01:07.000And then if you ever close down shop, you then have to send the physical paperwork to the ATF on your own cost.
01:01:13.00025 years of paperwork being sent is a massive, massive cost.
01:01:18.000We're talking thousands and thousands of dollars.
01:01:19.000But also, they effectively now have a gun registry of who owns every single firearm in the country.
01:01:25.000And so there's just some things that need to be done.
01:01:27.000Also, the ATF needs to be a convenience store.
01:01:29.000Literally, if I got director of that, I would open up a quick service place where you can come in, you can grab a beer, you can grab whatever you need to do, a home brew, and you can buy a Benelli 12-gauge whenever you want.
01:01:39.000There are, in fact, Walmarts that function as such.
01:01:42.000You can go to Walmart, you can pick up the milk, cigarettes.
01:01:52.000We make the point about how, like, oh, the ATF should be a convenience store, right?
01:01:56.000Well, in all seriousness, though, the ATF should be stopping terrorists on the border who are trying to bring in explosives and dangerous weapons and not bothering some small business in Tennessee or something.
01:02:15.000But at the end of the day, there are actual crimes that do need to be investigated.
01:02:19.000You know, if we've got Venezuelan gangs taking over buildings and they have hand grenades, you know, I've got a problem with just random people having hand grenades in the country they can just throw into a store.
01:02:26.000That's the kind of stuff we want to be hunting.
01:02:28.000And all these freaking analysts that exist inside of Washington, D.C. in the capital, one, when people are upset, well, if you do all this deportation, who's going to pick all the – who's going to go – To handle all the farms.
01:02:38.000The number one, well, they need to get another talking point from when they tried to continue slavery.
01:02:43.000But also, my number one thing is like, well, I've got 9,000 analysts we can fire from the ATF because they're not doing anything.
01:02:50.000Yeah, I'm telling you, all the ex-federal employees, they're going to need jobs.
01:02:54.000Let's jump to the story from ABC News.
01:02:56.000Mexican authorities broke up two migrant caravans heading to the U.S. activists say some migrants were bused to southern Mexico and others have been offered transit papers.
01:03:05.000This story broke over the holiday week and I just find it so funny that Donald Trump threatened these massive tariffs and then instantly two massive migrant caravans who had been tracking the news have just seemingly disappeared.
01:03:17.000And Trudeau came down and had conversations with Trump where I think Trump joked about annexing Canada or something like that.
01:03:25.000Well, it's not so much the tariffs work, it's that Trump is a great businessman.
01:03:29.000He knew, and this is the funny thing, there was that viral video where it's a phone call and Trump is saying, I told Putin if you invade Ukraine and I told Xi if you invade Taiwan, I will nuke you.
01:03:41.000And he's like, I don't know if they believe me, maybe 5%, but that's enough, right?
01:03:56.000Because they looked at Trump and Trump said, we will play a game of chicken and you will lose.
01:04:00.000Which makes Kamala Harris's position as borders are even more comical.
01:04:04.000That she was given charge and the White House said she's only supposed to be dealing with the countries of origin where they're causing migrants to come through Mexico and into the United States.
01:04:16.000And Trump makes one phone call and before he is in office, the guy is not elected yet.
01:04:22.000And they've already started showing signs that he is the current president of the United States.
01:04:27.000And he just said that, okay, all the hostages in Palestine need to be returned before my first day in office or it's going to be hell to pay.
01:04:35.000The thing that I love about him is so many people, and there's a massive fear.
01:04:41.000There's a massive fear of the unknown.
01:04:43.000If you know there's a consequence that's going to come for something, it's like when your parents, you know you did something wrong, but they're not telling you what your punishment is.
01:04:48.000That's worse than the actual punishment.
01:04:49.000It happened to me when I got my first speeding ticket.
01:05:20.000that entire algorithm out the window and says, you don't know what I'm going to do.
01:05:23.000And when we're talking about how great of a businessman he is, I know so many people who are starting businesses today just because they know the economy is going to do so well.
01:05:31.000I mean, like, literally, there's a guy who's trying to create an Amazon competitor called Rivoli, which is a direct-to-consumer marketplace, just like Amazon, but it's literally just American-made stuff because he knows we're going to onshore so many businesses.
01:05:41.000I know guys because of how friendly he's been to crypto.
01:05:43.000They just started, I think it's called Sido, a new company for indexing so we can create more blockchain technology.
01:05:49.000It's these incredible ideas where people are literally just creating jobs because Donald Trump was elected.
01:05:56.000He hasn't changed the economy yet, but people are like, "We're going to create American jobs because we know it's going to be great." He's so elective- He ignores the fact that what an administration signals to the broad economy matters significantly.
01:06:09.000Like, if you're telling people that are entrepreneurs or telling businesses, "Hey, look, there's going to be regulations, and there's going to be this, and there's going to be that hurdle, and the profits that you make, we're going to tax at X, and if you make too much money, you're going to tax at X." It disincentivizes people from actually taking action in the real world.
01:06:29.000Donald Trump coming and being elected means that there's going to be significantly less interference in the market.
01:06:35.000And it makes for a good environment to start businesses and to and to take economic risk, because if you're if you're going to spend the money and taking a risk economically, you want to be able to to make as much of a return as you can.
01:06:49.000And if you don't have that kind of guarantee, or if you don't have the sense that the administration is going to be friendly to business, you're not going to want to take that risk.
01:06:59.000I was just going to say Trump so effectively uses his presidential bully pulpit where he's effectively able to threaten other countries and get things done before he actually has to do official acts to effect change.
01:07:44.000As soon as he won the election, then we started hearing everybody was chilling out.
01:07:48.000The war is like, there's conversations that certain groups are calling for peace, if you know what I mean.
01:07:54.000And then they try claiming it has nothing to do with Donald Trump, but certainly Donald Trump has already gotten on the phone and he started making these changes.
01:08:01.000The response from Democrats has been to say, I thought Trump said he was going to end the war in 24 hours.
01:09:08.000Again, you just can't hate these people enough because literally the Democrats can come out and blatantly lie to the American people and they'll say, oh, well, if you look at it through the context of this political quagmire we have, it's a beautiful thought they had when they said that, you know, we want to chemically castrate children.
01:09:30.000But then when we say, oh, we're going to end the war in 24 hours, like, well, it's been two hours and only six countries have stopped attacking each other.
01:09:39.000Like, they will do their fact check there.
01:09:40.000Caroline Levitt put out something the other day that was really interesting where she got an email from a reporter.
01:09:45.000It was either like Washington Post or New York Times that said there is a certain location in the United States where they have had racist things spray painted on the sides of buildings.
01:09:56.000Now, nothing is directly tying this to Donald Trump, but it occurred after his election.
01:10:01.000So does the Trump campaign have anything that they want to say in relation to the fact that these events are occurring or basically accept any responsibility?
01:10:11.000Well, the mental gymnastics that these journalists have to get to to get to a point where they have no story and have to try and conjure up something to try and link things together is just wildly outrageous.
01:10:25.000This is because we got rid of bullying in the United States.
01:10:28.000I think there's a lot of reasons that people are being aggressively bullied.
01:10:50.000And the point, the reason for that is the more you have society that will police itself, the less actual involvement from the government you need.
01:11:00.000You don't need police to go ahead and round people up if people are too embarrassed to misbehave.
01:11:06.000If you look at the way that people behave in Japan, There's a lot of streamers that have been going to Japan and to South Korea lately.
01:11:16.000And the people in Japan and the people in South Korea are not taking it anymore.
01:11:21.000When they do get arrested, they get significant fines.
01:11:24.000And a lot of times they don't get arrested because there are people in, just normal people, that will stop them and tell them to knock it off.
01:11:35.000It's because the society doesn't approve of these things and that means that you don't need to have police running around arresting people all the time.
01:11:45.000The more you have society police itself and the more you shame people for misbehaving and behaving in ways that are unacceptable in public and behaving in ways that are unacceptable for your family or whatever, the less you need government involvement in people's lives.
01:12:02.000I think a great point to this is anybody who shoots often, you go to any kind of shooting race, whether it's indoor or outdoor, you don't see a lot of arguments on gun rages because you know that there are extraordinary consequences to it.
01:12:14.000I feel like that's just the same thing in the South.
01:12:17.000You don't see a lot of people doing home invasions in the South.
01:12:20.000Because you know there are extreme consequences to it.
01:12:22.000When there are sheriffs in Southwest Florida, my favorite sheriff in the world, Carmine Marcino, he literally said after a big hurricane, he's like, I'm just going to encourage you guys, probably don't want to go looting in Southwest Florida because you don't know what's waiting behind the door and I don't want to have to do the paperwork of booking you, so I'm encouraging my citizens to shoot you.
01:12:40.000I want to stress, too, with the gun range thing.
01:12:43.000In fact, I see quite the opposite of arguments.
01:13:50.000But this is something like – I'm not the biggest football fan in the world, but I think that the Super Bowl should be celebrated every single year because it's shared activities that bring people together.
01:13:59.000It's the reason why I think smoking cigars can save the entire country because if everyone is sitting there smoking a cigar, you are now locked into a 25-minute conversation.
01:14:06.000And then all the prerecorded responses – Tim, go ahead.
01:14:09.000I was going to say you're right on the Super Bowl.
01:14:31.000But you look at it, and unfortunately, we don't have a lot of those things in the United States, and I think we should encourage and foster more of those and help encourage those.
01:14:39.000I mean, whether it's the Victoria's Secret fashion show, whether it's the freaking girls in high schoolers going to prom.
01:14:45.000I mean, who doesn't see a bunch of high schoolers at a nice restaurant when you're going out on a date with your wife, and you see them all dressed up going to prom, and you don't stop by and be like, oh, Oh man, I hope you guys have a great night.
01:14:54.000It's just a shared activity where everyone can be all unified in one thing.
01:14:58.000And when you see people doing something that you enjoy doing, that you know a lot about, whether it's Latinos and black guys at a gun range showing each other their weapons, it humanizes one another.
01:15:08.000And so I think that's something we need to do in America is to foster more tradition and cultural.
01:15:12.000Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial chaos at MSNBC as Rachel Maddow furious at Morning Joe hosts for meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, according to a report.
01:15:21.000Rachel Maddow is pissed at them, as are other presenters like Chris Hayes and Ari Melber.
01:15:25.000Not only that, but MSNBC is, once again, suffering its worst ever ratings, hitting a key demographic of viewership of 38,000.
01:15:33.000So it's funny because Rachel Maddow is getting paid $25 million to talk to nobody.
01:15:38.000So I don't know what's going on with MSNBC, why it matters, but I will say for us what matters is this is the downward spiral.
01:15:46.000You got Keith Olbermann came out and said Rachel Maddow sold out her principles for $25 million.
01:15:52.000And now she's going after Morning Joe because they're trying in fear, I might add, but to, you know, try and apologize, I guess, to Trump for having been so just nasty and to be being liars.
01:16:07.000We're watching the internal combustion, I suppose, of these lunatics who were willing to say anything for cash.
01:16:15.000I think they're doing a little good cop, bad cop action.
01:16:18.000Joe and Meek are desperate for access to Donald Trump.
01:16:21.000So I think that's why they went to go kiss their rings because they want some late night phone calls from Donald Trump like Maggie Haberman gets from the New York Times.
01:17:11.000And I'll tell you, just for Americans who aren't steeped in political culture and media since, just so you understand, if you had 38,000 people in a room, that's a ton of people.
01:17:22.000But literally, on an Instagram story post, I think I get 300,000 views on average.
01:17:27.000If these guys are getting 38,000 on MSNBC and they're being paid $25 million a year, it's insane.
01:17:35.000More than that, you get those numbers in the key demographic.
01:17:37.000Most of the people watching at MSNBC are 65-plus and not an advertiser-friendly age group.
01:17:45.000Such an enormous shift to independent media, to social media platforms, and also the plurality of these platforms allows for the competition.
01:17:56.000I don't think we've necessarily seen this yet, and actually Tim might have a different opinion on that because I'm not in the streaming business, but if you get more and more that are competing with each other, my hope is that their standard of cracking down on certain types of speech is going to allow for more free speech because when you allow the free market to have so many different options as opposed to one individual having a monopoly, it allows for many people to choose from those different options.
01:18:31.000It is not an issue of you've got a group of Gen Z that one day saw the light and watched a YouTube video and went, oh, wow, Trump was right.
01:18:38.000It's that the younger generations are already feeling these politics or thinking these things.
01:18:43.000And as they get older and move into the political space, they already are more inclined to agree with a show like Joe Rogan's or ours or Dan Bongino, for instance.
01:18:52.000So when they try to suppress and censor this at the corporate level, like Google or whatever companies, it works for a period.
01:19:00.000But eventually cable news loses all its money and the advertisers step in and they're like, why can't we advertise on the biggest shows?
01:19:08.000And YouTube eventually has no choice but to back off and reduce the censorship because this is where the conversation is going to happen.
01:19:16.000They have no choice at this point but to say, this is the direction the country is going.
01:19:25.000And the reason they lost is because they tried so desperately to engage in this weird censorship, which created this...
01:19:30.000What ended up happening was you had the authentic world, where it was regular people having real debates, and then you had the fictional Democrat cult liberal media world, where it was manufactured and everybody hated it.
01:20:27.000Well, I imagine they do, but at the same time, when you have Spotify trying to do what YouTube is doing, I mean, they started picking up the podcast because YouTube was banning people and saying, you know, hey, we don't want this on our platform, which is, I mean, obviously it was a blunder.
01:20:47.000But that's why it's good to have markets and have other competition.
01:21:16.000But that's why it's important to have multiple places where you can actually go for these different ideas and stuff.
01:21:24.000So the fact that the mainstream media has a unified voice, it didn't matter because you had places like YouTube and because you had places like Spotify to actually present this stuff.
01:21:40.000There was a time where the mainstream was trying to squash this stuff, right?
01:21:45.000After January 6th, Parler got completely and totally boned because all their servers were on Amazon, and Amazon helped cut them out, and Gab has a problem with some of their user base being a little too edgy and stuff like that.
01:22:01.000But the fact that there are options, it's a big deal, and it matters, you know?
01:22:06.000I think Ben Shapiro was talking about how they're having to really pour a lot of infrastructure into their website and trying to drive people off of some of these excess platforms like YouTube because they feel as if there could come a point where they have put so much stock in these platforms that if they completely just yank it away, then they're left with nothing.
01:22:25.000And so they want to drive people back to their website individually.
01:22:28.000And one of the other, and I want to, you know, get Tim's opinion on that too, but the other thing too, I was reading a book about how to essentially build up your listener base as well.
01:22:37.000This author, I think his name was Graham Cochran, was suggesting that it's not, you should not focus on building up your social media, but rather your email list.
01:22:46.000Because people don't change their emails, but you don't know what's going to happen to a particular platform.
01:22:51.000If Twitter gets bought out and changed, then, you know, that was great for us, but for the libs, you know, they're...
01:22:57.000It was great for them, too, but they were mad.
01:23:14.000So this person's arguing that you basically have to create your own little bubble of infrastructure, build up your following on the website, and people don't change their email addresses.
01:23:23.000They might go off of a platform, a platform like Parler, you know, if we want it to stay around, that's great, but it might just wake up and it's not there the next day.
01:23:30.000You don't know what's going to happen to it, but it's essentially like your mailing address.
01:23:34.000You always have some form of a mailing address.
01:23:35.000You might switch your email address, but it's far less often than if you move off of a social media platform.
01:23:41.000I do think there's something to say about originally mainstream media got a lot of their credibility from being the only ones around.
01:24:15.000So it's still in the Republican ecosystem of elected officials.
01:24:19.000They go to MSNBC, you know, I mean, they'll still do some Fox and Fox will still get some breaking news.
01:24:24.000But, you know, Trump talks to Maggie Haberman from the New York Times all the time and And Axios, I read Axios' news because that's where they're getting a lot of these quotes from.
01:25:04.000But it doesn't matter what I think they should or shouldn't do because it will change.
01:25:07.000And in the future, it's not going to be, let's say in 15, 20 years, it's no longer going to be like the New York Times calling a person like Kash Patel and saying, we need a quote on this.
01:25:16.000It's going to be Kash Patel being like, hey, can I pop on the show and talk about a thing that's going on?
01:25:19.000And it's going to be more authentic, raw conversations.
01:25:22.000Where your political leaders, your law enforcement leaders are going to sit down two hours raw and be like, dude, I will tell you exactly what is happening.
01:25:30.000And you judge for yourself if you think I'm telling the truth.
01:25:31.000But when you put someone in that position, like Donald Trump talking for three hours with Rogan, you see the authentic conversation.
01:25:37.000You can see where Trump is like, maybe I don't want to answer this or whatever.
01:25:40.000and he tries and you get it but this is why Kamala Harris couldn't do it it's why the shows she went on was a deeply controlled system where she said you come to me and then you had that moment where Hannity said that staffers are back there being like we got to go we got to go like we're out of time that's that's that's all over that we are moving into the podcast era authenticity well just to touch on your question earlier but I will say it one big part that is changing isn't you guys especially when I came into office and a lot of people started following and coming into office
01:26:09.000I mean we would break stories to our friends versus going to the to the times or going to at politico and things like that because we know that's the future and these are our friends We want to help our friends.
01:26:19.000That's one thing that I love about the conservative movement is we have created an ecosystem where Obviously, the establishment came really hard after me, but I didn't lose a single friend who's in the conservative movement.
01:26:29.000We also use the legacy media to our advantage, too, because in D.C., here's another thing that people like the Times and the Washington Post are now having to deal with, is that Republicans like the hit pieces that are being written against them a lot of the time.
01:26:44.000And the way that you were supposed to harness that, it is essentially earned media.
01:26:49.000If you get a hit piece written by the New York Times or somebody like that against a Republican because everybody knows that the Times and the Post are against Republicans.
01:26:59.000So you are presented with a gift from the legacy media.
01:27:03.000And if you don't take that and start fundraising off of it immediately, then you have just wasted an enormous opportunity.
01:27:10.000There were headlines that Madison would get sometimes that we would get and I would read the hit piece and be like, this is pretty decent.
01:27:16.000We ought to send out an email blast on this.
01:27:38.000And if you take that opportunity and understand the media landscape now and utilize it, then you can profit off of their idiocy.
01:27:45.000That's really smart, especially considering how the entire, the whole of the conservative world understands that the existing legacy media has nothing but contempt for them.
01:27:58.000And any opportunity that they can get to slime you, they're going to take.
01:28:06.000The conservatives that are just the average news consumer that's conservative, they know the New York Times is not going to be treating conservatives fairly.
01:28:15.000So it's a badge of honor now to say, look, they're running hit pieces on me.
01:28:33.000If you're not hated by the deep state – we were joking about this earlier – if you haven't served a subpoena from the federal government, I really have a hard time trusting you.
01:28:43.000But going back to your question, but D.C. is kind of slow to move because there are so many long-term career politicians in office still.
01:28:52.000And I will tell you this is how leadership on both sides would kind of handle people is if you were doing something incorrect or something bad that the leadership did not like, they would go to Fox.
01:29:02.000They would go to some of these big-name corporations, the legacy media, and say, hey, do not have this person on for a little while.
01:29:50.000But like I said, he could do that with big things like rallies or whatever, but he can derail conversations just by tweeting.
01:29:59.000While it's happening, he could just go ahead and say, well, I'm going to go ahead and comment on it, and then the people that are actually involved in the conversation, they might have to completely change their narrative or whatever because of what Donald Trump said.
01:30:16.000Whereas Donald Trump has a unique bully pulpit, it's not like that is impossible for other people.
01:30:23.000If you tweet something out, the people that understand the context or whatever, they will actually change what they're doing depending on what you're saying, especially in D.C. when it comes to lawmakers or whatever.
01:30:38.000What enormous power to be able to just use that leverage.
01:30:42.000And even out of office, there was a certain point where Trump had been totally written off back right after January 6th and things like that.
01:30:51.000The small group of people that were around him helped rebuild that influence.
01:30:56.000And the ones that were around him, even at that very beginning, were the loyal ones that helped him rebuild this team and take over.
01:31:50.000Eighteen days from now, so it's not even three weeks, it's going to be on the 20th, we'll be at AmFest, and then the next week is all of Christmas and New Year's, so we're basically off for two weeks.
01:31:58.000Oh man, I'll come to AmFest, why don't you guys?
01:31:59.000Yeah, you should definitely show up, and I'm looking at how this last month of the year is going.
01:32:05.000I'm looking at Trump's appointments, and I'm looking at January 3rd, January 6th, January 20th.
01:32:12.000I don't know if I'm supposed to say anything yet, but it's going to be epic in D.C. in the month of January.
01:32:34.000And we've got to get through 50 days, huh?
01:32:37.000Look, I don't know what anyone else has been told, but the 6th of January is going to come, whether they like it or not.
01:32:43.000What happens on the 6th of January is not going to be similar to what happened in 2021, but they're not going to be able to stop January 6th.
01:32:50.000So when Trump won the first time, we had maybe a dozen Democrats stand in the well of the House of Representatives and object to the certifying of the duly elected president of the United States.
01:33:35.000If you get them all right, it makes a million bucks.
01:33:37.000It goes back to the White House press briefing thing that the Democrat freshman lawmakers that stand up and do that will then get a moment of virality.
01:33:46.000And they'll start off their little firebrand thing with a punch.
01:35:12.000And with everything that's been going on and the demonization from people on the left who have attacked him and insulted him for literally doing nothing political.
01:35:48.000Okay, so he's got a skate park out here, and I'm in a wheelchair, and I'm just saying, we're gonna have some frickin' fun right after this.
01:35:54.000Have you ever seen that, there's like a pro dude.
01:37:36.000Somebody I heard say the other day, the American people have a spiritual gift of just ignoring the consequences if it's screaming them in the face.
01:37:45.000They'll push it further and further down the line.
01:37:48.000My point about why I think Social Security should be abolished is that it effectively replaced the family with the state for care of the elderly to a certain extent.
01:37:55.000Sam Seder made an interesting point, and I disagree with it, as I just mentioned, but he does make this point that it's not just about...
01:38:09.000When these people get a check for 800 bucks and they go spend that, a young person does the work and gets a portion of that as pay.
01:38:14.000And that was a strong portion of his argument for it was it actually expands the economy by making sure that all of these people have money to spend in the system.
01:38:26.000My response to that is children should be paying for their parents.
01:39:18.000But if it's not going to be removed, I think that if you have or adopt four or more children, you should be in perpetuity, no longer paying federal income taxes.
01:40:10.000I think Votie Bauckham said that no society in history that has had a declining rate has been able to survive and recover.
01:40:20.000And people are freaking out about it in other countries right now, and I believe the United States has just recently started hitting below that rate as well.
01:40:49.000But I will tell you, there is a current aggressive attack of, and I would call it a Muslim caliphate, of some radicals who are now going into places like France, Germany, and England.
01:41:20.000He says, Tim, if you consider taking on new talent and bringing people in under your umbrella, let them create their own space and use them as special guests.
01:41:26.000And I don't mean to have them contact Ian, a real contract to you for this.
01:42:02.000The Emperor's Champion says, as an honorary PhD in trucking, I condemn the blatant cover-up of corruption and declare shenanigans on the deep state.
01:42:12.000As I stated earlier, if you're a member of TimCast, I hereby verbally decree you have a degree.
01:42:35.000And if you are a $25 member, not only do you get to join the Silver Lounge in the Discord server, but you get a honorary master's degree, courtesy of TimCast, verbal only.
01:42:47.000And if you give any more than that, which you can't because you can customize your amount, you get a Ph.D., From Timcast Media, verbally.
01:42:54.000And that means some of you may be doctors, those who are in the elite club.
01:42:58.000And the reason I made this point is there's that woman who got, she made the thesis, fictional smells are racist.
01:43:07.000A woman in the UK wrote a thesis saying the description of negative smells in literature is racist, sexist, classist, and speciesist, and it's oppressive.
01:43:15.000She got her PhD, and now her name on X is Dr. whatever her name is.
01:46:21.000But when you start looking at it, I mean, now FEMA is paying, I think I've heard from a couple guys, their dump trucks were being paid $6,000 a week per dump truck per driver.
01:46:32.000And many of them had been sitting in the parking lot for two weeks and had not been sent out a single time.
01:46:39.000That means $600,000 a week was being spent for these people to just sit there.
01:46:44.000That is your tax dollars and nothing was being done with them.
01:46:47.000So if you are the federal representative there, you should be cracking down.
01:46:50.000This should be the number one topic of conversation in the United States, the terrible just miscarriage of treatment of the people of Western North Carolina, who are phenomenal people, but they are so effing resilient.
01:47:01.000These guys were able to just take care of each other, take care of one another.
01:47:04.000And this is one of the reasons where I'm saying it made me...
01:48:05.000So this was interesting that I went down the week after the hurricane to Asheville, North Carolina, and at the Harley Davidson dealership there, they had tourist helicopters flying in and out, dropping supplies off to the people in the mountains.
01:48:20.000There were just a bunch of redneck veterans who were like – also the people – the men in Washington, D.C. versus the men in North Carolina was just staggering to me, the ones that took charge.
01:48:32.000There were National Guard representatives that were reporting to the civilian teams that were on the ground there, and they're coordinating flying helicopters in and out, dropping, not waiting for FEMA to show up.
01:48:44.000They said, we had one FEMA truck come in the last few hours, and it pulled around the corner in the parking lot of a grocery store and set up with two people and a clipboard for people to write down their email address and get information.
01:48:55.000That was the only federal response they had had up until that point.
01:49:02.000And do not forget that FEMA was sent instructions, which there's been a congressional hearing on this, to not go to homes that were actively supporting President Donald Trump.
01:49:22.000The weaponization of government has been the case since 2012 or whatever with the IRS and Lois Lerner and the IRS attacking conservatives, whatever they were doing, whether it be – I guess it was audits.
01:49:38.000The Obama IRS was unfairly auditing conservative organizations.
01:49:55.000In the past election, 95% or 96% of DC voted for Kamala Harris.
01:50:02.000At this point, with that kind of unified opinion, you know the 4% of people that voted for Donald Trump were very quiet about it.
01:50:11.000And the people that voted for Kamala Harris, they unquestionably look at people that are Trump supporters or conservatives.
01:50:20.000They look at them as bad people, and they think when they act that way, when they punish them, they are actually doing something that is good.
01:50:29.000Let's grab the super chat from Just Leave Me Alone.
01:50:32.000Hey, Madison, you don't happen to live in Florida's first congressional district, do you?
01:51:36.000Well, I will tell you, going to what you just said, it's the west coast of Florida.
01:51:40.000I mean, you look at the west coast of Florida, you have Byron Donalds, you have Anna Paulina Luna, you have Matt Gaetz, you have Greg Stubbe.
01:51:46.000It is the most hardcore Republican area you can find in the country.
01:52:17.000In 2020 in Florida and then got her fired from her lobbying firm in Washington, D.C. and single-handedly made sure she was unemployed.
01:52:24.000Donald Trump picked her back up a few months later.
01:52:27.000She solidified an operation around him during Save America days in 2021. Ron DeSantis was furious that Susie had been brought into Trump's orbit.
01:52:35.000Susie built up that operation and obliterated Ron DeSantis in his presidential primary election.
01:52:40.000And then she knows that state so well that she has stacked the administration with these officials that she knows they're going to do a good job.
01:52:47.000So all behind the scenes, if you know that, like, the reason Ron DeSantis will never appoint Matt Gaetz is that Matt Gaetz was somebody who went really hard against DeSantis in order to make sure that Trump was there, but also Casey hates Trump.
01:52:59.000Matt Gaetz, Ron's wife, hates Matt Gaetz.
01:53:02.000And the inward dynamics now give Ron DeSantis this little leg up, I guess, for him to try and appoint somebody to the Senate seat.
01:53:10.000And I think it's going to be an insider like his chief of staff, as opposed to somebody that the Trump orbit might want, because it's that last little on the back of his head.
01:53:31.000She set up an amazing election integrity team.
01:53:33.000The fact that not a single state was one for Kamala where we have to show voter ID... I think that's the greatest thing in the world.
01:53:42.000And if that does not make everyone want to go absolutely rabid to declare voter ID has to be done.
01:53:46.000The fact that you are voting for your county commissioner on the exact same ballot you're voting for your president on, they are drastically different things.
01:54:14.000It says, hey, Madison, as a North Carolina native, are you worried that our mostly Democrat swing state in the state government will be combative to the incoming Trump administration?
01:54:22.000Do you think that Robinson scandal ruined things for us?
01:54:25.000I don't think Robinson's scandal ruined things for us.
01:54:29.000This is one thing I do want to say in regards to that.
01:54:32.000I care very little for what you do in your personal life when I'm electing you to office.
01:54:38.000I know a lot of people might disagree with this, but as long as you vote correctly, what you do in your personal life or what you've done 10, 15 years ago means very little to me.
01:54:47.000He's one of the greatest orators I've ever heard.
01:54:49.000But I will say, whatever you do in your personal life, I think that it should play into factor into things.
01:54:54.000But legitimately, I'm hiring you to do a job, and if you're going to go in and be a bulldog and be an assassin and take care of business, I don't really care what you do in your private life.
01:57:57.000I just want to push back a little bit.
01:57:59.000I actually think the neocons are the people who keep us safe and help keep our enemies fearful of attacks.
01:58:04.000Trump often cited John Bolton as the guy for the madman factor in his old cabinet, so I think he's utilizing some of the same, different people, but similar ideologies in Let me make my points very nuanced on how I feel about war.
01:58:20.000I want us not to have a secretary of defense.
01:58:23.000I want us to have a secretary of offense.
01:58:43.000And it's like, oh, if an American citizen or an American girl gets assaulted in another country, if one of our people get mugged, we are sending murder teams to your country and you will die.
01:58:56.000There are a lot of things that I believe.
01:58:57.000I think we should be overtly, incredibly aggressive.
01:59:00.000But I think that we should have the most state-of-the-art weaponry.
01:59:03.000I think that we should fund the military-industrial complex to a great point.
01:59:05.000But we should be so aggressive that the fact we never need to use it, the fact – this is what I don't like about warmongers is they look at this and they say, oh, well, we need to foster wars in other places so that – Lockheed Martin can sell more missiles so that Boeing can make more attack helicopters for us, these kind of things.
01:59:23.000I want us to have the most powerful military, the most well-trained military, the most aggressive military, but I do not ever want us to waste a dollar overseas.
01:59:30.000I never want our sons and daughters to die for things that are not for Americans.
01:59:34.000America should be for Americans, and I think that the Americans should be for the Americas as a whole.
01:59:39.000This is actually a unique point that I have.
01:59:41.000Why are we trading and having all of our offshore production being done?
01:59:46.000With countries that hate us, when South America is an outrageously predominantly Christian continent, most of them are Catholics.
01:59:52.000And we can talk about Catholicism if you want, but they are outspoken Christians, the born-again believers.
01:59:57.000And these are people that I think if we have to have something and we can't bring it back on shore, send it down to the Americas.
02:00:02.000Let our closest allies be our closest allies.
02:00:04.000Let the rest of the world starve and see what life is like without Americans.