Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Biden SLAMMED For Hunter Pardon, CLEAR COVER UP Of Burisma Scandal w-Madison Cawthorn | Timcast IRL

00:00:23.000 So for the entire year, Joe Biden said he would not pardon his son and he would not pardon And sure, all the people in media acted like they believed it.

00:00:31.000 And then, of course, yesterday, Joe Biden announced he would be pardoning Hunter Biden.

00:00:35.000 Now, the funny thing is, it wasn't just a simple, hey, you know, the past couple of years he's been charged over these crimes related to a gun and some taxes.

00:00:42.000 So I'm going to say you are pardoned because you're my son and I love you.

00:00:45.000 He said everything you've done or may have done or will do From January 1st, 2014 to December 1st, 2024 is you are pardoned.

00:00:54.000 And so who is it?

00:00:56.000 That was Phil.

00:00:57.000 That was me.

00:00:57.000 And so certainly it doesn't seem to make sense that this was just about a gun charge.

00:01:03.000 This is likely to do with the Burisma scandal and international influence peddling.

00:01:07.000 And it's being masked as though it's just because the DOJ is is selectively prosecuting Hunter Biden, which makes no sense because it was his DOJ. So we'll talk about that.

00:01:17.000 And there's a lot to break down.

00:01:19.000 But here's my favorite thing.

00:01:21.000 Karine Jean-Pierre in the press briefing is just getting absolutely roasted by the press because, of course, Joe Biden lied the whole time and they all believed it.

00:01:30.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:31.000 Plus, Coincidentally, Donald Trump also nominated Kash Patel for FBI director right before this pardon.

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00:03:56.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got a couple guests.

00:03:59.000 We've got Madison Cawthorn.

00:04:00.000 How are we doing, Tim?

00:04:01.000 Good to see you.

00:04:01.000 Doing great.

00:04:02.000 Who are you?

00:04:02.000 What do you do?

00:04:03.000 My name is Madison Cawthorn.

00:04:04.000 I'm a former congressman out of North Carolina.

00:04:05.000 I now live in the great state of Florida and I have a phenomenal time living down there.

00:04:10.000 Someone's phone going off?

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00:04:15.000 The feds are here.

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00:04:28.000 Anyway, sir, continue.

00:04:29.000 Yeah, but anyway, so I live in the great state of Florida, and then I got a call that Tim Poole was looking for somebody to come on here.

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00:04:54.000 Well, you mentioned Luke's here.

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00:05:10.000 Elad is here.

00:05:10.000 What's up, everybody?

00:05:11.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.

00:05:13.000 I'm a field reporter and Jewish affairs correspondent here at Tidakast.

00:05:17.000 What's up?

00:05:17.000 He made that up, by the way.

00:05:20.000 I am the noisy Phil Labonte.

00:05:23.000 I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:05:26.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:05:28.000 So let's go.

00:05:28.000 Here's the story.

00:05:30.000 We're going to jump in with this one from Politico.

00:05:32.000 We haven't seen a pardon as sweeping as Hunter Biden's in generations.

00:05:37.000 I mean, it's absolutely wild.

00:05:38.000 I think I have the actual statement here from Joe himself.

00:05:43.000 He says, today I signed a pardon for my son Hunter from the day I took office.

00:05:46.000 I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department's decision-making, and I kept my word even as I have watched my son being selectively and unfairly prosecuted.

00:05:51.000 Without aggravating factors like using a crime, multiple purchases, or buying a weapon as a straw purchaser, people are almost never brought to trial on a felony charge solely for how they filled out a gun form.

00:05:59.000 Those who are late paying their taxes because of serious addictions but paid them back subsequently with interests and penalties are typically given non-criminal resolutions.

00:06:06.000 It is clear that Hunter was treated differently.

00:06:08.000 He then basically says, no reasonable person who looks at the facts.

00:06:11.000 There's a bit more here.

00:06:12.000 He says, you know, the DOJ had a plea deal.

00:06:14.000 It fell through.

00:06:15.000 And then goes on to say blah, blah, blah.

00:06:17.000 But here's where it gets interesting.

00:06:19.000 He says, We're

00:06:50.000 free to commit any federal crime he wanted because the pardon was that broad.

00:06:54.000 We have not seen something like this in generations or ever.

00:06:58.000 And it is I believe it is fair to say, and I stand by my belief in this, that this was the intention is to cover up the international influence peddling China, Moscow and the Burisma in Ukraine.

00:07:11.000 And I'd actually go one step further.

00:07:14.000 I normally don't make big assumptions like this, but I actually think the gun charge and the tax charge were intentionally brought about for the purpose of giving Joe Biden plausible deniability when he did pardon Hunter Biden.

00:07:28.000 So we were asking ourselves all throughout the year, like, why are they charging Hunter?

00:07:33.000 I mean, this is Merrick Garland's DOJ. Joe Biden could fire him and say, don't go after my son.

00:07:38.000 How dare you?

00:07:39.000 And the argument was they're using it as using it as an excuse.

00:07:43.000 So that when they go after Trump, they can say they're not biased.

00:07:45.000 Sure.

00:07:46.000 I think there's a strong probability that they said, hey, if we lose this election, Trump is coming after us over Ukraine Burisma and there's nothing we can do about it.

00:07:55.000 What do we do?

00:07:56.000 OK, well, we'll issue a pardon for Hunter in his role and what he did at Burisma.

00:08:00.000 But issue a pardon if the year comes to the end and we say Hunter's pardoned over Burisma, they're going to say, what?

00:08:06.000 What does that mean?

00:08:07.000 You give him a couple light charges that are weird, and then they say, we're going to pardon him for these charges, but make the timeframe very broad so it'll cover all of those Burisma-related scandals as well.

00:08:19.000 I think that...

00:08:20.000 I'm not going to...

00:08:21.000 I don't know that I have a strong conviction as to whether or not the intent was...

00:08:28.000 The intent of the gun charges and stuff was so that way they could get a broader blanket immunity, but I think it is pretty...

00:08:34.000 An excuse for a pardon.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, I don't know that I have a take on that, but...

00:08:39.000 I mean, it's possible, but I don't have any kind of inclination for or against that.

00:08:45.000 But that being besides the point, it is clear that this is about more than just the gun and tax charges, because there's no reason to go back to 10 years.

00:08:59.000 I would like to see Congress subpoena Hunter Biden now because he's no longer protected by the Fifth Amendment.

00:09:05.000 So he would have to actually answer any questions.

00:09:09.000 He can no longer say, oh, I stand on the Fifth Amendment.

00:09:11.000 So if there is anything that's violated the law that either I believe his uncle has done or that his dad has done, he would be obligated to discuss it or talk about it.

00:09:24.000 He couldn't say, oh, I refuse to comment on this because it could implicate me so far.

00:09:29.000 That would be nice.

00:09:30.000 I've heard that, but it's kind of strange because that means this pardon covers every single potential crime he could have committed, meaning he has to testify to any of the weirdest things he may have done completely outside of any of these scandals.

00:09:44.000 That seems weird to me.

00:09:45.000 It does, but you could start...

00:09:46.000 I mean, the thing is, the laptop has a lot of information, and I personally don't know all the stuff, but...

00:09:52.000 But, I mean, this means that he's been pardoned for any federal sex trafficking.

00:09:56.000 Yeah.

00:09:56.000 We got a lot of weird stuff on that laptop.

00:09:58.000 I don't know what you guys think.

00:09:59.000 Yeah.

00:09:59.000 Well, I'll tell you, I think the majority of us in this room, the reason we're upset about it is because the Democrats as a whole...

00:10:06.000 I mean, you shared a video of this, of them literally talking for nine minutes.

00:10:09.000 Your video was hysterical because it was sped up.

00:10:11.000 Yeah.

00:10:11.000 But no one really has a problem with a father pardoning his son saying, I'm going to defend my son.

00:10:16.000 The issue that we have with this is that he said he was not going to do it.

00:10:20.000 He lied directly to the American people.

00:10:22.000 There's many articles that are out right now saying that it was always talked about in private that this was on the table.

00:10:27.000 And so we knew that he was lying in the wholesale.

00:10:30.000 But this is something we took...

00:10:31.000 No, I agree with the lying part, but I actually disagree.

00:10:35.000 He's a father pardoning his son.

00:10:36.000 There's two reasons why I would disagree he should not have pardoned his son.

00:10:40.000 And I'll throw it to Matt Walsh, who made the point almost immediately.

00:10:43.000 You know, it's one thing to protect your son because you don't want him to go to prison, but it's another thing to enable your son to be a...

00:10:49.000 I mean, a bad guy who's creating shell corporations or whatever he's accused of doing to bypass taxes.

00:10:54.000 You're not actually helping your son if you keep bailing him out of all the horrible things he does.

00:10:59.000 But I think he should have got the pardon because I wanted to see him challenge the gun charge to the Supreme Court to get it thrown out.

00:11:04.000 That they're charging him for self-incriminating on a Knicks form.

00:11:08.000 So when I'm looking at this, you have to also consider that he waited until this point and said for this long he was not going to pardon his son because they threw every wrench in the system that they possibly could for an extended period of time.

00:11:23.000 They stopped this from getting prosecuted in Washington, D.C. They stopped it from getting prosecuted in Florida.

00:11:30.000 I think he truly walked out there for a period of time and said, I will not pardon my son.

00:11:35.000 And the reason is because he thought that he could use that leverage of power from his position as president to stop the process.

00:11:42.000 And so once Donald Trump won, then all the floodgates were going to open up against Hunter Biden.

00:11:48.000 And just remember what they did to Donald Trump.

00:11:51.000 I mean, they sent Miami SWAT through his front door because he had allegedly documents in his building.

00:11:56.000 I mean, To the rest of the presidents and vice presidents, NARA, the National Archives Records Administration, basically issued a casting call.

00:12:03.000 Said, check between your couch cushions and make sure you don't have any classified documents, like H.W. Bush was going to find something from Saddam Hussein in his chest of drawers, right?

00:12:12.000 But instead, they send all of the police and, you know, basically raid Mar-a-Lago over allegedly having documents.

00:12:19.000 And in addition to that, continue to throw lawfare after lawfare against him through the Merrick Garland Department of Justice.

00:12:25.000 And so once Trump wins, they realize we're no longer going to be able to use the wheels of our justice to our advantage.

00:12:32.000 And it's completely off the table now.

00:12:33.000 So he might have gone out there for months saying, I will not pardon my son because he thought he could use his position of power to his family's advantage.

00:12:42.000 It's possible that they didn't think they would lose.

00:12:44.000 They didn't think they were going to lose.

00:12:46.000 Trump was gone.

00:12:50.000 But did you see the story that Kamala's internals always had her behind Donald Trump?

00:12:55.000 They knew she was out.

00:12:56.000 Was he making comments about not pardoning Hunter before Kamala took over?

00:13:01.000 That's the thing, before he got swapped out.

00:13:02.000 I think that he was under the impression.

00:13:05.000 He thought that he was going to be the guy.

00:13:07.000 And I think that the reason that he was behaving the way he did is because he believed that he was going to beat Donald Trump.

00:13:13.000 He's like, I'm the only guy that's beaten Donald Trump.

00:13:15.000 There's no one else that apparently is going to.

00:13:17.000 I'm the guy that the Democrats have chosen to run.

00:13:21.000 So he was making all the moves as if he was going to be Donald Trump versus Joe Biden.

00:13:29.000 And then the debate just threw a wrench in the works and they had to change.

00:13:33.000 They had to make a change.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:13:35.000 And then also the statement that he made saying that very few people are ever charged for falsifying a record on a gun buying thing.

00:13:43.000 Obviously, these people have never dealt with the ATF.

00:13:46.000 They've never dealt with trying to run a gun shop or anything.

00:13:48.000 The ATF is so out of control going.

00:13:51.000 The Department of Justice is so out of control.

00:13:53.000 I know several people.

00:13:54.000 When you're filling out these gun forms, you go over them very carefully because if you mess them up, you might go to jail.

00:14:00.000 You also lose all your guns for a period of 180 days. 0.78

00:14:03.000 It's absolutely ridiculous. 0.88

00:14:05.000 Yeah. 0.73

00:14:05.000 So I do think that the intent was to set the stage for a second Biden administration. 0.73

00:14:15.000 I don't think that it was about – I don't think that they believed that they were going to lose.

00:14:22.000 I think that they believed that – All of the years of, you know, four years of, well, eight years of Donald Trump's the baddest man in the world and the orange man bad and et cetera, et cetera.

00:14:32.000 I think they believe that they were going to win.

00:14:34.000 I think that they probably were believing the internal polling saying that, you know, Donald Trump wasn't going to be able to beat Joe Biden. 1.00

00:14:43.000 And I think that it came up and it bit him in the ass. 0.99

00:14:44.000 And also you've really got to think about when Joe Biden came up through the ranks in politics. 0.99

00:14:48.000 In his mind, he had everything going for him that he needed to have.

00:14:51.000 He had all of the Hollywood elites.

00:14:53.000 He had all of the media companies on his side.

00:14:55.000 He was trashing them through earned media.

00:15:00.000 And he really thought I think he was going to win.

00:15:02.000 I legitimately don't believe that Joe Biden knew he was out of the race until it was announced on the news.

00:15:07.000 Right.

00:15:07.000 I agree.

00:15:08.000 That letter that was posted on his ex, I don't think he wrote.

00:15:11.000 Not at all.

00:15:11.000 No, no.

00:15:12.000 They probably kept telling him to bow out and he said no.

00:15:14.000 That week he said, I'm not going to do it.

00:15:16.000 Then this letter appears on his Twitter account being like, yeah, I'm out.

00:15:19.000 I don't think he wrote it or knew about it.

00:15:21.000 So let me show you this.

00:15:22.000 We had this viral video, nine minutes of Democrats and liberal media saying that Joe would never pardon his son.

00:15:28.000 And this morning I was thinking nine minutes is too long.

00:15:32.000 I don't want to watch nine minutes of these people.

00:15:34.000 It's bad enough I got to watch one minute of them.

00:15:36.000 So I decided I would make my own edit of it where every time they say it, it speeds up and exponentially increases in speed until it's incomprehensible shrieking, which to be fair is already the case.

00:15:47.000 But I will play a little bit just so you can hear it.

00:15:49.000 And this is not about me making the joke.

00:15:50.000 It's about you understanding the media and how they responded to Joe saying he would not issue this pardon.

00:15:56.000 Before a family.

00:15:58.000 I said I abide by the jury decision.

00:16:00.000 I will do that and I will not pardon him.

00:16:03.000 Letting the world know that he will not wipe away the decision of 12 of his son's peers.

00:16:08.000 He was asked directly and he has said he wouldn't pardon his son if he gets convicted.

00:16:12.000 Let's wait to see what happens if he loses.

00:16:14.000 Yeah, but I mean, but he said it.

00:16:15.000 He's going to get pardoned by his dad.

00:16:16.000 There's no question about that.

00:16:17.000 The president has ruled out pardoning his son.

00:16:19.000 Major commitment from the president.

00:16:20.000 accepting the outcome of the trial and also pledging not supporting his son.

00:16:24.000 And then, if you want to watch the photo, you can, but it eventually turns into this.

00:16:29.000 In all seriousness, nine minutes was too long for me to listen to.

00:16:33.000 Far more intelligent than the normal speed, by the way.

00:16:36.000 That is true.

00:16:37.000 I'd rather just hear that.

00:16:38.000 But here's why it's interesting.

00:16:39.000 This story from the Daily Wire.

00:16:40.000 Pardoning Hunter was on the table when Joe Biden said he wouldn't.

00:16:44.000 Biden publicly said he wouldn't pardon his son, but privately discussed doing just that.

00:16:49.000 Now they're trying to make the claim that it was Jill Biden who pressured Joe into doing it.

00:16:54.000 It's all lies.

00:16:56.000 It's all lies.

00:16:56.000 This story, according to a Sunday report from NBC News, during the same period when Joe was saying we will not do it publicly and on TV and everyone in the media was acting like they believed them, they say, quote, the president had discussed pardoning his son with some of his closest aides, at least since Hunter Biden's conviction in June, said two people with direct knowledge of the discussions about the matter.

00:17:14.000 They said it was decided at the time that he would publicly say he would not pardon his son, even though doing so remained on the table.

00:17:20.000 Chris Wallace was right.

00:17:21.000 It's that he was saying, if I lose, I'll pardon him.

00:17:24.000 If not, I won't.

00:17:25.000 And then he would have the DOJ do something or, you know, probably would have pardoned him no matter what.

00:17:30.000 The fact is, the media are not smart people.

00:17:33.000 We know they're not smart people.

00:17:35.000 And I have to imagine some of them at least know for sure they're lying.

00:17:38.000 I absolutely think so.

00:17:39.000 I think most of you do, too.

00:17:40.000 When they're sitting there saying, well, look, he said he's not going to do it.

00:17:43.000 And then they act surprised that behind the scenes he was saying he'd do it the whole time.

00:17:48.000 I think this is an Occam's razor type situation where the simplest explanation is really what's going on.

00:17:54.000 Joe Biden was always going to pardon Hunter Biden.

00:17:56.000 Well, originally he was going for the sweetheart plea deal that the judge had to throw out.

00:18:01.000 The judge who was ruling in that case had to throw up because he thought it was so ridiculous because it also included that part where he couldn't be convicted for any other crime that he committed in the past decade or so.

00:18:10.000 Yeah, I think.

00:18:32.000 When Joe Biden was thinking about dropping out, Hunter Biden was one of his close confidants for whatever reason.

00:18:38.000 So we need to understand how close they are.

00:18:40.000 And I want to stress this too.

00:18:42.000 Someone in the chat asked, can you pardon someone for crimes they haven't yet committed?

00:18:46.000 Yes.

00:18:47.000 My understanding right now is it's not been challenged.

00:18:51.000 But this is what they just did.

00:18:53.000 Well, it's the closest thing to the purge we've ever had in the United States.

00:18:55.000 Hunter Biden can go out and do whatever the heck he wants to do this evening.

00:18:58.000 As long as it's a federal crime, he's good.

00:19:00.000 As long as it's a federal crime.

00:19:01.000 So in D.C. he can do whatever he wants.

00:19:03.000 He can't run a stoplight, but he can shoot somebody in the middle of 3rd Avenue.

00:19:07.000 In D.C. it's all federal.

00:19:08.000 It's all federal.

00:19:09.000 It is indeed.

00:19:10.000 He's just driving around D.C. doing who knows what.

00:19:14.000 I think the biggest point that we all need to take away from this is to just realize how...

00:19:19.000 The media has been how outrageously and aggressively the president of the United States lied to you.

00:19:26.000 It's just another lesson that you do not hate these people enough.

00:19:29.000 These people will lie to you at every single turn.

00:19:31.000 They will never be honest with you.

00:19:32.000 And at the end of the day, these people hate you. 0.81

00:19:35.000 They think that you're a childish.

00:19:36.000 They think they need to hold your hand throughout everything and that they are your elites.

00:19:39.000 And that's why there's a two-tiered system of justice. 0.98

00:19:41.000 And the media is not pissed off that Hunter Biden was pardoned.

00:19:45.000 They're pissed off that now we get compilations like this of them defending the president and saying that he said he would not pardon them.

00:19:54.000 And this is like the third or fourth time in the last few weeks that something like this has happened.

00:19:58.000 A complete 180 reversal.

00:20:00.000 I just remember Joe Biden saying, I am not stepping down.

00:20:03.000 And so the media gets their talking points and they go out there and saying, he is not going to step down.

00:20:06.000 And then it happens.

00:20:08.000 And now it's this Hunter Biden thing.

00:20:09.000 There's like two other examples.

00:20:10.000 And now they're just angry at him.

00:20:12.000 They can't even defend it anymore.

00:20:15.000 Joe Biden is sharp as a tack.

00:20:17.000 We were hearing that for ages.

00:20:18.000 We got this story from the Daily Mail.

00:20:21.000 Special prosecutor slams Hunter Biden's bid to dismiss his indictment after dad Joe's pardon.

00:20:26.000 This is wild.

00:20:27.000 Because what the DOJ is basically saying is, we've seen no pardon.

00:20:30.000 We've heard media reports there's a pardon.

00:20:33.000 But until we get the actual filing, you can't dismiss these charges.

00:20:36.000 Now, some are saying this is just, it's going through the motions.

00:20:38.000 It's making it look like there's a battle.

00:20:40.000 But what I will add to this, which I find very fascinating, is how this backfires.

00:20:45.000 I think the Democrats, Joe Biden, understands there will be some blowback from this in some ways, but they have no choice.

00:20:51.000 They lost the election.

00:20:53.000 Hunter's in trouble.

00:20:54.000 The Burisma scandal stuff is going to come out with Kash Patel coming in.

00:20:57.000 And so...

00:20:59.000 The issue now for Joe is that he basically just said the DOJ is corrupt, targeting my son for political reasons.

00:21:07.000 And my response to that is, oh, wow, Joe, I can't believe the DOJ is corrupt and engaging in this political lawfare.

00:21:17.000 Trump has been saying something similar.

00:21:18.000 I guess this proves it.

00:21:19.000 I guess this proves it.

00:21:20.000 I really do.

00:21:21.000 And this is something that I think is going to give Donald Trump a lot of ammunition.

00:21:25.000 It now is the former outgoing president who is a hardcore Democrat who's been one of the most liberal presidents we've ever had is now saying the DOJ is corrupt to its core, which is something a talking point all of MAGA has been saying for the last eight years.

00:21:37.000 And I think this has given us a lot of ammunition to now be able to say, hey, we need to burn this institution to the ground and rebuild something that values the Constitution and the rule of law.

00:21:46.000 Yeah.

00:21:46.000 It's worth mentioning this is the Merrick Garland Department of Justice.

00:21:50.000 This isn't any Trump loyalists really bringing these charges up. 0.69

00:21:54.000 It's Merrick Garland, the lapdog of Joe Biden.

00:21:55.000 And remember, they didn't just lose the election. 0.62

00:21:58.000 They have lost their blue wall of bureaucracy in D.C. The number of lawyers within the Department of Justice that are writing their resignation letters this second right now is astronomical.

00:22:10.000 I think that once we get somebody in that Department of Justice that actually is going to enforce the rule of law and go after the lawfare that has been going after Donald Trump for so long, they're going to have to have an enormous amount of applications that pour into that agency because it's just going.

00:22:25.000 There's an article right now, I saw it in Politico, that D.C. residents are concerned about their property values.

00:22:31.000 Yeah, going down because of the sheer amount of bureaucrats and government workers that are going to be fired and leaving Washington, D.C.

00:22:39.000 It is going to be that effective.

00:22:40.000 There should be a fire sale on beautiful houses in Langley, in all the surrounding areas.

00:22:48.000 I'm stacking up cash.

00:22:49.000 I'm ready to move.

00:22:50.000 There are some absolutely beautiful properties, and there should be...

00:22:54.000 I mean, never mind what they're actually going to cut and get rid of, but the idea of getting departments out of Washington is a great idea as well.

00:23:03.000 Get them out into different parts of the country, get them away from D.C. so that way you do not have a unified political opinion.

00:23:11.000 96% of the people in D.C. voted for Kamala Harris. 0.89

00:23:15.000 For someone that is...

00:23:17.000 Absolutely unqualified, and they did it only because they're ideologically aligned.

00:23:23.000 So that right there is a massive problem.

00:23:26.000 The entire bureaucracy needs to be cut up.

00:23:29.000 Even if you're not actually able to do the kind of significant cabinet level cuts that I would personally like to see, move them.

00:23:38.000 Get them out of there.

00:23:39.000 Get them out of D.C.

00:23:40.000 Get them out.

00:23:40.000 There's a whole big country out there.

00:23:43.000 You can send them all over the place.

00:23:44.000 Denver's gorgeous.

00:23:45.000 You can send them all over.

00:23:47.000 And not only can you send them all over the country, you can send them to places where it makes sense, where the staffing is people that understand it.

00:23:53.000 Why would the Department of Agriculture not be in Kansas, in the center of all these cornfields?

00:23:58.000 Iowa's great.

00:23:58.000 Iowa's phenomenal.

00:24:00.000 We're people who, they've said, oh, you know, I just sold my farm, my children are taking over.

00:24:04.000 Let's now have someone who's been a farmer for 70 years.

00:24:06.000 I know a bajillion farmers down, we've got Whitworth Farms, you've got Alfie Oaks down in Florida.

00:24:13.000 Go ahead and send it down there in the Sunshine State.

00:24:15.000 These people will be taking care of all the agricultural stuff.

00:24:18.000 Send BLM to Reno.

00:24:21.000 It's also worth noting that when you pointed out like 90% of D.C. voted for Kamala, we have had generation after generation of Republican staffers and congressmen go and live and vote in Washington, D.C. And the way that town is structured is that you have to kiss up to the lobbyists and the special interests while you are either elected to Capitol Hill or working on Capitol Hill as a staffer, or else your career goes nowhere.

00:24:46.000 Yep.

00:24:47.000 If you don't actually build out your relationships with K Street then you're not going to advance to these cushy jobs.

00:24:52.000 And so we put Republicans in office who sit there long enough and realize they can get very comfortable showing up to all the swanky dinners and just capitulating to the special interests.

00:25:02.000 Then they get their $500,000 a year position at K Street in these lobbying firms, and they slowly become a Democrat.

00:25:09.000 Very few people go up there to change that town.

00:25:11.000 And you know this better than anybody else, that if you go up there and start trying to actually change the city systematically, then you are going to be basically just humiliated as much as possible.

00:25:22.000 You're going to be vilified.

00:25:24.000 You're going to be lied about all of these different things.

00:25:26.000 Look at Trump in his first term. 0.91

00:25:28.000 He wasn't even doing anything that ridiculous. 0.84

00:25:30.000 When you look at the people he chose for his cabinet the first time around, a lot of people groaned.

00:25:35.000 A lot of populists, a lot of libertarians were like, Bolton is a great example.

00:25:39.000 And they still tried to destroy him and accuse him of being a traitor to this country working for Russia and, dare I say it on MSNBC, the Soviet Union, which doesn't exist.

00:25:49.000 But these people were never accused of being smart.

00:25:52.000 And Will, I'll just jump in.

00:25:53.000 The reason why people hated Donald Trump in Washington so much is because he messed up people's long-term career plans.

00:25:59.000 And I'm sure everyone at the table understands this.

00:26:01.000 But in Washington, D.C., you've got to think people's career spans are only about 20 years.

00:26:04.000 So normally you're going to work on Capitol Hill for about 10 years, might become a deputy chief of staff, maybe a chief of staff.

00:26:10.000 But then you're going to go spend two years of stint on K Street and you're going to understand what some lobbying company wants you to do.

00:26:15.000 And then you're going to say, oh, because I care so much about this country, I'm going to go back into the government.

00:26:20.000 But really, you are secretly working for K Street still.

00:26:23.000 You will then come in as a chief of staff.

00:26:24.000 You will direct it because the majority of congressmen literally just are handed their vote cards.

00:26:28.000 They have no idea what they're voting on.

00:26:29.000 They're going to go there and all your chief of staff is running it.

00:26:32.000 I mean, literally, your staff is policy.

00:26:34.000 And so then you're going to go push the interest of whatever lobbying group you worked for last time.

00:26:38.000 So then when you leave in six years, for the last three years of your career on Capitol Hill, you will then be a senior partner of one of these K Street firms and you will make $400,000 to $500,000 a year.

00:26:47.000 And that is people's entire retirement plan.

00:26:49.000 So when Donald Trump came in and wanted to import a lot of the low-level staffers, it messed up a lot of people's opportunities to go and make these opportunities for these K Street lobbying firms.

00:27:00.000 And that is why people hate him so much inside the city.

00:27:03.000 The big problem is the bureaucracy and the fact that the politicians are actually removed from the people that can actually have repercussions on them.

00:27:21.000 So the people that are making the decisions and the people that are actually making policy and stuff like that, it's people that can't be fired or that can't be booted by the electorate.

00:27:32.000 It's people that are bureaucrats and stuff.

00:27:36.000 If the people are unhappy with a politician, the politician may not get elected.

00:27:40.000 But the people that are working on K Street, like you said, the lobbyists, they're all the same people.

00:27:44.000 And they're going to find another person to work for.

00:27:47.000 And it doesn't matter if it was this guy or that guy.

00:27:50.000 They're going to be doing the exact same job.

00:27:52.000 And that's why people can elect new politicians. 0.99

00:27:59.000 Essentially the same things that were happening before continue to go on.

00:28:03.000 The policy actually doesn't change, and it's necessary to make the kind of cuts that Donald Trump is talking about.

00:28:11.000 And I love the fact that Donald Trump is talking about this, but I don't care if it's Donald Trump.

00:28:16.000 I was a libertarian.

00:28:17.000 I'm a very libertarian kind of guy.

00:28:18.000 So if it was a libertarian that got in there, if Rand Paul was the guy doing it, I'd be backing Rand Paul.

00:28:23.000 Or Mike Lee or anyone with that kind of interest to actually make real cuts to the government, to make real changes, to put the power back into the hands of the electorate, back into the hands of the people.

00:28:40.000 Because right now, it's all in a bureaucracy.

00:28:44.000 Rand Paul helps you out a lot.

00:28:45.000 Oh, Rand Paul did help me out.

00:28:46.000 It's why I love the House way more than the Senate, because you stay up there for six years, you solidify incumbency, and the American people have a very short memory.

00:28:53.000 They do indeed.

00:28:54.000 But Rand Paul's a phenomenal guy.

00:28:55.000 I love him.

00:28:56.000 But I do want to give a big shout-out for Donald Trump going for the Libertarians.

00:28:59.000 When he went to the Libertarian Conference, I thought that was a masterful move.

00:29:04.000 He went and asked.

00:29:04.000 Yeah, he went and asked.

00:29:05.000 It was a very humble thing to do, and I really appreciate it.

00:29:08.000 And also, you know, he parroted some Vivek Ramaswamy talking points because for so long we've all said, well, you know, this is the largest union in the country.

00:29:14.000 We can't fire bureaucrats, so what can we do?

00:29:17.000 But Vivek had a very great point.

00:29:19.000 The only way to do it is to do mass layoffs of the federal government for fiscal reasons, and then you can get rid of 80 to 90 percent of these people who legitimately don't matter.

00:29:27.000 And people who are concerned about that happening, like, well, what's going to happen?

00:29:32.000 Think about whenever the government shuts down.

00:29:33.000 Does your life actually change?

00:29:34.000 Aside from being able to go on the Blue Ridge Parkway in speed because there's no park rangers.

00:29:39.000 Really, what is the difference?

00:29:41.000 Park rangers are parked rangers.

00:29:43.000 Wow, you know what?

00:29:44.000 I support Florida Highway Patrol more than anything you could ever imagine.

00:29:48.000 I back them, in a way.

00:29:50.000 Yeah, the government shutdowns are bad for, I think, servicemen and women get their paychecks delayed or something like that.

00:29:55.000 Which is sad.

00:29:56.000 Yeah, but we're not talking about that.

00:29:58.000 We're talking about the other component which you never see or deal with is just...

00:30:03.000 What do you care?

00:30:04.000 The 9,000 freaking analysts that work at every single agency, those are the people that have said...

00:30:08.000 I mean, when we look at a bunch of Trump's cabinet picks, no one...

00:30:11.000 None of the front line guys...

00:30:12.000 Let's look at the FBI. Well, I do have some concerns.

00:30:15.000 I don't want to interrupt you, though.

00:30:16.000 No, no, no.

00:30:17.000 Tim, this is your show, brother.

00:30:18.000 Well, my concern is that if Elon and Vivek do get in there and they start gutting a lot of these programs, how are we going to know what happens when you give hamsters cocaine and put them in a fighting ring?

00:30:29.000 LAUGHTER I will personally fund it.

00:30:34.000 I don't just want a percentage of my taxes.

00:30:36.000 I didn't want to interrupt you for that.

00:30:37.000 I want all my taxes.

00:30:38.000 We're going to Columbia and we're going to find out.

00:30:41.000 No, but this actually was one of the studies.

00:30:43.000 They were like, why are we making hamsters do drugs and fight each other?

00:30:48.000 There's probably some like, well, you know, we're wondering what happens to mammals, but it's like, come on.

00:30:52.000 If they were teenagers doing that, it would be fine, but it's the government team.

00:30:56.000 Okay, look, if they live-streamed it, it'd be fine, too, but they do it in private.

00:30:59.000 Like, they don't care.

00:31:00.000 If it's my tax money, I want to be sitting front row, I want Dana White announcing it, and I want to hear which hamster is going in.

00:31:07.000 Now, there have been some people pointed out that some of these studies do sound weird, but are for a reason.

00:31:13.000 Like, they might give a certain drug to an animal to see if it increases aggression or decreases because they don't want to test on humans.

00:31:19.000 But my point is largely, so much of our money is going to things that, let's just call it triage.

00:31:24.000 Fine, I get it.

00:31:25.000 You want to take a look at what happens when a certain drug impacts an animal because you want to see if there's a relation to how humans may behave or something like that.

00:31:32.000 I got an idea.

00:31:33.000 First, we stopped sending all of our money overseas to these foreign countries for wars.

00:31:36.000 Gender studies in Egypt, I feel like, is really important.

00:31:39.000 Pakistan was a big one. 1.00

00:31:40.000 It was like $11 million.

00:31:41.000 How about we fix our roads, fix our bridges?

00:31:44.000 I gotta tell you, if we're sending another $725 million to Ukraine, How about this?

00:31:49.000 You just say, okay, same thing, but here.

00:31:52.000 It's here, and we're going to, I don't know, build some roads.

00:31:54.000 I'm pretty sure that Ukraine is now located, my geography is bad, but I think it's Western North Carolina that was just rocked by a massive hurricane.

00:32:01.000 I think they could use some roads there.

00:32:02.000 And the fact that we literally have the 35th Engineering Group, based in North Carolina, who can create a bridge for the military to cross in about 30 seconds with some of their machines, yet we could not get a bridge to get people out and get to their homes in Western North Carolina is insane to me.

00:32:17.000 It legitimately made me angry that – and we were talking about it a little bit before the show – the government comes in and says it will take two to three months for us to fix this road, and a bunch of grizzled vets from the mountains come down and do it in 48 hours.

00:32:30.000 And, Phil, you're going to love this because I used to actually be – I'm always pretty libertarian-leaning on a lot of my beliefs that most things should be legalized.

00:32:38.000 You should allow the people to just figure out what they want.

00:32:40.000 But I always – there was the talking point that I used to back a lot saying, well, who's going to build the roads?

00:32:44.000 Right.

00:32:44.000 I mean, I got my buddy Ellis Pace.

00:32:46.000 I got a significant amount of friends in Western North Carolina.

00:32:49.000 And I watched a bunch of backcountry wise hillbillies literally building roads in record-breaking time.

00:32:55.000 And roads that I would...

00:32:56.000 It's like Roman roads.

00:32:57.000 They're going to exist for all time.

00:32:58.000 And so I'm just telling you, it made me swing way more libertarian.

00:33:03.000 Let's jump to this story from The Daily Caller.

00:33:05.000 I don't want to talk about her.

00:33:07.000 You don't want to talk about KGP? She makes me mad, man.

00:33:09.000 My blood pressure's going to go up.

00:33:11.000 Well, we're going to talk about KGP. All right, here we go.

00:33:13.000 let's go she takes a verbal flogging from reporters after biden there we go i like that because she's she i i do kind of feel bad for her i gotta be honest because she's tasked with lying for one of the stupidest administrations this country's ever seen and even as bad as she is at her job it's like she's trying to do it but then behind you i mean you've got stumbling fumbling 0.80

00:33:36.000 joe who can't speak straight hunter biden committing crimes in brisma and she's desperately trying to spin something together, but she's going to take the full brunt of this. 0.86

00:33:45.000 So one of the most fascinating things that came out of this was when someone said, how deep is the rot at the DOJ? This is a journalist asking Corrine Jean-Pierre.

00:33:54.000 She's got no good answers.

00:33:56.000 There is an audio thing right here.

00:33:57.000 You have said repeatedly yourself since the election, the president has said for months, no pardon was coming.

00:34:03.000 I just, I wanted to ask you, could those statements now be seen as lies from the American people?

00:34:09.000 Is there really a credibility issue here given now this announcement?

00:34:12.000 First of all, One of the things that the president always believes is to be truthful to the American people.

00:34:18.000 That is something that he always truly believes.

00:34:21.000 And if you see the end of his, I assume that you've read his statement and you look at the end of that statement, and he actually says that in the first line in the last paragraph.

00:34:35.000 And respects the thinking and how...

00:34:37.000 Yeah, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:38.000 We don't even hear this.

00:34:39.000 But the problem for her now and this decaying administration is they've probably lied in every possible direction, claiming both things at the same time.

00:34:50.000 And now, I mentioned this in the previous segment, but I'll say it again.

00:34:53.000 The question the press is asking her is how deep is the rot at the DOJ? I mean, that's funny because it's no longer...

00:35:01.000 Trump has long said it's being weaponized.

00:35:03.000 Trump supporters, many people have said the DOJ is weaponized against the political rivals.

00:35:07.000 And now you've got Karine Jean-Pierre as part of an administration where Joe Biden literally just said it's elective prosecution.

00:35:15.000 And so now that's it.

00:35:16.000 It's confirmed.

00:35:17.000 And she has to answer for that.

00:35:18.000 She can't.

00:35:19.000 That clip reminded me of sending Daniel into the lion's den with a bowl of salad trying to convince the lions that it is good to eat and not allowing them to just completely attack her.

00:35:31.000 The two-faced lies coming from this administration every single time that they put her out there.

00:35:38.000 A hundred percent.

00:35:39.000 And this is a thing that I think we need to understand about people in the media, people like Kareem Jean-Pierre.

00:35:44.000 Their number one thing they hate the most, and this is something you were touching on earlier, Tim, is being embarrassed.

00:35:49.000 And so when they have to come out and they're parroting their normal talking points for the left, which they always do, then all of a sudden the left goes and does a 180. Joe Biden does drop out.

00:35:58.000 He does pardon his son.

00:35:59.000 They do say the DOJ is rotten to its core.

00:36:01.000 It embarrasses them and it makes them upset.

00:36:03.000 And I'm just hoping people can finally start realizing that you do not hate these people enough.

00:36:07.000 I really think that all evidence says that they have a humiliation kink. 1.00

00:36:12.000 Because all they ever do is embarrass themselves. 0.91

00:36:15.000 What did Tucker Carlson say when some guy said, what kind of porn do you watch? 0.98

00:36:19.000 And he said, oh, humiliation porn. 0.99

00:36:21.000 I watch you do it a lot. 0.99

00:36:23.000 We do have a lot of political masochists in the country. 0.99

00:36:25.000 Sincerely, I mean, KJP, how on earth she does her job, like, how on earth she can go out there day after day?

00:36:33.000 I would have resigned.

00:36:34.000 There's no way that I would have been able to do what she does and actually have any self-respect.

00:36:41.000 I couldn't.

00:36:42.000 I just feel, I kind of feel bad for her.

00:36:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:45.000 I mean, as bad as you can for someone who's lying to you every day intentionally, but it's just...

00:36:51.000 You know, look, someone with a goal, with a mission, be it good or evil, they're trying.

00:36:56.000 But she's got to try for Joe Biden.

00:36:59.000 Like, trying to lie for that guy, that's a difficult thing.

00:37:02.000 Oof.

00:37:03.000 I mean, he pardons his son and then doesn't leave the country, he leaves the continent.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, he went to Africa.

00:37:09.000 I love that.

00:37:10.000 He's gone to Africa.

00:37:12.000 Also, this is like a pattern. 1.00

00:37:13.000 He was in a rainforest like two weeks ago after he said something stupid to him. 0.99

00:37:17.000 Oh yeah, and then he walked into the rainforest. 0.99

00:37:18.000 He just walked into the rainforest.

00:37:20.000 You're like, where's he going?

00:37:21.000 I know.

00:37:22.000 Is he looking for other homes?

00:37:25.000 Hunter wants to stay in the country and Joe Biden didn't pardon himself.

00:37:28.000 He's just going to go over to Africa somewhere. 0.94

00:37:30.000 What's he up to?

00:37:31.000 I don't know.

00:37:32.000 To be fair, her job is to lie and then get called out for it and just try to keep lying and send the media off of the trail of whatever they're trying to accomplish. 0.99

00:37:40.000 I mean, you're right, but you look at the way that McEnany did her job.

00:37:46.000 And look, That was awesome.

00:37:48.000 I think Donald Trump is going to be great, but Donald Trump was very loose with facts and he was very, very loose with the way he spoke.

00:37:57.000 And KJP, just when it comes to the way that Biden lies compared to the way that McEnany would deal with things that Donald Trump said that were skirting the truth or were incorrect or whatever.

00:38:12.000 She was an absolute all star.

00:38:16.000 Just McEnany handled the press and handled Donald Trump incredibly professionally.

00:38:23.000 And she generally made the press look bad. 0.99

00:38:27.000 KJP, I mean, like I said, if I were, I can't imagine how she looks herself in the mirror every day because not only does she have to go out there and defend some of the most blatant lies, but she does it so badly that you're not buying it. 1.00

00:38:43.000 At least Mack and Amy, you were like, okay, yeah, you know, she's got that book, she's...

00:38:47.000 Pulling up things that people said and she had all these things marked because she knew what they were going to ask that day.

00:38:54.000 Every single day, she knew what the press was going to ask because she knew what Donald Trump had said.

00:38:59.000 KJP comes out there and she doesn't have good answers for the things that Joe Biden has said.

00:39:07.000 Yeah, and I'll tell you, I think Kayleigh McEnany and her sister Ryan, they're literally once-in-generation talents on handling the media. 0.94

00:39:13.000 And the thing that I love about Kayleigh is no matter what Donald Trump would say, and then the media would start going off like, oh, well, actually, this isn't true, and we think that this was exaggerated.

00:39:22.000 As soon as Kayleigh all of a sudden would hear that, she would say, oh, we're going to page 42. And I'd love to have she would turn, have her great French tip nails, all of a sudden turn, and then just run. 0.88

00:39:30.000 Rip this person a new one and then bring out receipts and then it turned out, oh wait, Donald Trump was telling the truth. 0.98

00:39:35.000 It's like literally when they're saying, oh, the water's turning the frogs gay. 0.97

00:39:39.000 It's exactly what's happening.

00:39:40.000 Thank God for RFK. We're going to fix that problem.

00:39:42.000 Republicans have to be prepared with the media.

00:39:45.000 Democrats have not had to be prepared for the media, and now they are getting a little taste of it, a small taste of it, because she came out there all prepared.

00:39:53.000 KJP could have just walked out there and had basically her time in the sun and just enjoyed it and soaked it up. 0.69

00:39:59.000 But even on Capitol Hill, when you are dealing with reporters, they will treat you differently.

00:40:04.000 With the Democrats, they're writing up your bill on the latest legislation that you wrote.

00:40:08.000 And with Republicans, it is taking your words and twisting them wildly out of context and then asking you for comment five minutes before they drop it on the wire.

00:40:14.000 You know, I also feel bad for Jen Psaki because She was better.

00:40:18.000 She was better.

00:40:19.000 I actually gave her praise because I'm like, as liars go, she's crafty.

00:40:24.000 She's not great, but she does a good job. 0.91

00:40:27.000 But she goes to MSNBC and now it's just...

00:40:30.000 And now Alex Jones is going to buy her out.

00:40:32.000 Yeah, she jumped ship to go to a sinking ship, and it's like, oof, man.

00:40:36.000 Well, you know, you can only feel so bad because part of me, there's just the schadenfreude of, like, you are evil people, you lie, cheat, and steal, you have disdain for the working class in this country, you have disdain for the population of this country, and this is what happens when you're a bad person, so what can I say?

00:40:51.000 Yeah, but the big thing is, you know, we got Caroline Levitt coming in as press secretary, and I think she had a phenomenal idea, and I think is heavily influenced by Barron.

00:40:58.000 But the big thing is that we're going to start opening seats up for alternative media, kind of the new media.

00:41:04.000 And having a lot, I mean, I hope, you know, you'll be there as a Jewish Times reporter.

00:41:07.000 Yes.

00:41:08.000 Jewish Affairs Correspondent.

00:41:09.000 Jewish Affairs Correspondent.

00:41:11.000 I'm going to make you a name for that. 0.99

00:41:12.000 But, I mean, you think about this.

00:41:14.000 We're going to start having people who are not tied to editors, who are not tied to people who have to push all of their...

00:41:19.000 Because, I mean, you think of places like TimCast, places like Daily Wire.

00:41:22.000 They have their subscription service, so you guys are not going to lose your income that's going to float you all the time, so you can actually report the truth.

00:41:29.000 And I think having these people in the briefing room is going to be a massive, massive win for the American people.

00:41:35.000 I mean, that's the goal is to have that kind of influence.

00:41:41.000 But I'm curious as to if you guys think that there's going to be an actual change the way that the media treats the incoming Donald Trump administration because of the fact that there's going to be...

00:41:57.000 I mean, I imagine there's going to be some amount of podcast...

00:42:05.000 If I understand correctly, the president has been signaling that they're going to have podcasters as people in the press pool.

00:42:13.000 And if it's no longer dominated by the people, the establishment media or the legacy media, if it's no longer dominated, do you think that the tone and tenor inside the press pool is going to have to change?

00:42:23.000 Or do you think it's going to be something where you're going to have the podcasters and the legacy media bickering amongst each other or whatever?

00:42:31.000 Here's why it won't.

00:42:33.000 Because they will be competing.

00:42:34.000 They will definitely be competing.

00:42:36.000 But the people who are the White House correspondents for these major networks are trying to be...

00:42:44.000 They're trying to run their sizzle reel for the show they want to get.

00:42:49.000 So Caitlin Collins, who used to work at the Daily Caller, goes in on CNN, becomes the White House correspondent, and she has these clashes.

00:42:57.000 And what does she do? 0.94

00:42:58.000 She gets her own show. 0.59

00:42:59.000 Jim Acosta, same thing with CNN. They view this as their opportunity to try and catch their wave of legitimacy with the Trump administration.

00:43:09.000 So I want to...

00:43:11.000 Follow-up to that, it clearly didn't work out for CNN to have Caitlin Collins or Jim Acosta have their own shows.

00:43:19.000 They've watched their viewership go down.

00:43:22.000 It's not about CNN. It's about the person themselves.

00:43:25.000 They are trying to say, how can I best appeal to the virality of the opportunity?

00:43:32.000 So, like, if I clash with the President of the United States or the Press Secretary in the briefing room and I go viral...

00:43:39.000 Then the libs are going to love that, and then all of the folks at the station are going to say, this person gets ratings, they must have their own show, or they're generating revenue in some way.

00:43:49.000 So it's all about that individual getting their moment, because then they will...

00:43:55.000 They have contracts, but they'll use it to their leverage.

00:43:57.000 If another network offers them a better position, then they're going to go towards that.

00:44:00.000 And they're going to bring their social media following and their persona over to that network and then continue to clash with the president.

00:44:07.000 So this is an amazing opportunity for people.

00:44:10.000 in liberal media to make their mark because there will be others who get their own show after two or three years and then hold the administration accountable and get a bump of ratings off that and doesn't mean that long term it's going to work out i mean like newsmax is beating cnn just about every night right now uh msnbc is about to get sold off to something however those individuals themselves have made a stamp in their career for themselves and frankly they've already made their millions too that's absolutely great and

00:44:37.000 But Phil, going back to your point, I do think in the briefing room, when you're going to have kind of the podcasters and people, alternative media in there, and then you're going to have the legacy media in there, I do believe there's going to be, for the first few months, maybe a year, kind of there's going to be like a scene from Mean Girls where they're like, oh, you guys aren't actually from us.

00:44:53.000 You know, you're not one of us.

00:44:55.000 We don't like you that much.

00:44:56.000 But then all of a sudden you're going to see them then be like, wow, the proof's in the pudding.

00:45:00.000 I mean, it's like we just watched a video of RFK with his shirt off at 70 years old doing a backflip of a pull-up bar.

00:45:05.000 And it's like, okay, that's the guy we want in charge.

00:45:07.000 Oh, it was sick.

00:45:08.000 Wow.

00:45:08.000 It was sick.

00:45:09.000 He's like, that's the guy we want.

00:45:10.000 We need a backflip.

00:45:11.000 Yeah.

00:45:11.000 Not like a, he pulled himself up and rolled backwards.

00:45:15.000 I see, I see.

00:45:15.000 Yeah, but you see this guy with his shirt off, and he's freaking jacked at 70 years old.

00:45:19.000 It's like, okay, the proof's in the pudding.

00:45:21.000 And I think that's what people are going to start realizing with these podcasters, asking honest questions the American people want to know, and they're starting to get massive rating bumps.

00:45:27.000 Honest question is, what is in his pudding?

00:45:29.000 Well, not red dye number 30. It is a strong TRT. I guarantee that guy's getting about two...

00:45:36.000 He's getting a lot of TRT. It's called gear, man.

00:45:42.000 Who knows?

00:45:43.000 I've asked himself from all those fetuses, those late-term abortions that he supports, so...

00:45:47.000 We like RFK. We're pro-life here.

00:45:51.000 Keep going.

00:45:52.000 He got a pass for that, but...

00:45:54.000 We welcome people into the right with a big tent party, but I will tell you...

00:45:56.000 It's like we forgot he was a Democrat, like, I don't know, eight months ago.

00:45:59.000 Well, let me tell you, but we'll brainwash him. 0.99

00:46:01.000 The issue is, the Republicans, especially under Donald Trump, are basically saying, we're going to be the big tent party, we're going to welcome people like RFK Jr. in, and then we're going to be the dominant voice in the conversation.

00:46:11.000 So, negotiate where you have to, to win the bulk of the political power.

00:46:15.000 Absolutely.

00:46:16.000 And that's one thing that I get upset about a lot of times with conservatives.

00:46:20.000 And I'm a hardcore conservative, but we were talking about this earlier.

00:46:23.000 Conservatives are very hard with accepting incremental victories, whereas the left is very happy with it.

00:46:27.000 So for the last 60 years, well before any of us were born, the left started winning incremental victories.

00:46:32.000 They say, oh, we'll win one inch this year.

00:46:34.000 And then they do that for 60 years, and then look at where our country's at.

00:46:37.000 And it was a slow boil, like the frog that's in the saucepan.

00:46:40.000 They're slowly turning up the heat.

00:46:42.000 And so, you know, I'm happy to welcome people on to our party because, one, we might be ideologically different, but this is one thing that I actually like about podcasts.

00:46:50.000 I mean, you can look at Tim, you can look at Joe Rogan, you can look at anybody.

00:46:53.000 If you force Americans, people with brains, to sit down and have honest conversations where they actually have to not use talking points, they're actually using common sense, then people are always going to start shifting to the right because our side just makes sense.

00:47:05.000 And when you actually start thinking about these things, the left talking points fall apart.

00:47:08.000 And so when we start welcoming people in like RFK, like Tulsi Gabbard, who have some ideological differences with us, they're now going to have conversations with people who are having very backed up, honest and common sense backed up conversations.

00:47:20.000 And I think it's going to move them aggressively to the right.

00:47:22.000 Are you concerned that could water down the message a little bit at all?

00:47:26.000 Because, for example, like I know Rand Paul, he's a great MAGA guy, but he's against Trump's use of the military for deporting illegal immigrants, for example.

00:47:35.000 So, like, if you keep bringing in Democrats, you know, I'm I'm like a 14 weeker when it comes to abortion.

00:47:40.000 But for many people in the party, they feel like their voice is getting drowned out when they have people like RFK getting appointed HHS secretary.

00:47:46.000 He'll be the most pro choice Republican appointed HHS secretary.

00:47:51.000 So it's just, you know, what is your reaction to people saying it's watering down?

00:47:56.000 what he's trying to accomplish.

00:47:58.000 I vehemently think that there are so many voices in the party.

00:48:02.000 And, I mean, we all like RFK, but everyone realized that RFK used to be a liberal.

00:48:06.000 He used to be a Democrat.

00:48:07.000 And so I don't think our message is being watered down.

00:48:10.000 I think our message is being amplified, and now it's starting to get to different audiences.

00:48:14.000 Because, I mean, the one thing that I love about conservatives is we will not budge.

00:48:18.000 This new generation of conservatives, I don't care how many arrows you send at me.

00:48:21.000 I don't care how many articles you write about me.

00:48:24.000 I will not give up.

00:48:25.000 You can call me a Nazi every single time I walk by you.

00:48:27.000 I'm not going to sit there and go, oh, you know what?

00:48:29.000 Yeah, gosh, you think I'm a Nazi?

00:48:31.000 I'm going to send $600 million to Ukraine.

00:48:33.000 It's never going to happen.

00:48:34.000 It's never going to happen because we know what we believe.

00:48:36.000 And so I don't think we're going to lose any massive support on our side.

00:48:39.000 I think the only thing that's going to happen is when people start coming into the outer gravity.

00:48:43.000 I mean, I like using libertarianism as a gateway drug to conservatism because it's like, hey, When you grow up, yeah.

00:48:48.000 Yeah, it's like, hey, you know what?

00:48:50.000 Look, man, I don't call myself a libertarian.

00:48:52.000 I'm libertarian-leaning, but the libertarian party is insane.

00:48:54.000 But the libertarian party has two directions.

00:48:57.000 So Chase Oliver, for instance.

00:48:58.000 That was insane.

00:48:59.000 Do you think Trump will keep his promise with Ross Albright, the party?

00:49:02.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:49:03.000 I want to jump to this story from Slate.com.

00:49:06.000 Slate!

00:49:07.000 As a member of the media, I for one think Kash Patel is a great choice to lead the FBI. Oh, thank heavens.

00:49:12.000 We finally get a sensible liberal over at Slate saying, Kash is a great choice.

00:49:17.000 He adds, and I'm not at all saying that because he's threatened to prosecute journalists for having said Donald Trump didn't win the 2020 election.

00:49:23.000 Well, he's not saying it.

00:49:25.000 So there you go.

00:49:26.000 So he says Cash is great.

00:49:27.000 So basically, the narrative they're pushing now is that Cash Patel, who was nominated to be FBI director, which is based AF, is a conspiracy theorist who is going to arrest journalists.

00:49:36.000 MSNBC's Morning Joe, desperate for ratings, played the clip of Cash saying this three times where he was basically saying he didn't say, I'm going to arrest journalists.

00:49:46.000 He said, those that basically conspired against this country and were defrauding the American people, we're going to investigate you, be it civilly or criminally, whichever one we have to do.

00:49:54.000 And now they're saying—they're conflating it into he's going to arrest journalists for saying Trump didn't win.

00:49:59.000 The best case— Like, if you're a liberal, and you want to make an honest, dark interpretation, is that he is going to sue you for defamation.

00:50:10.000 That's their worst case scenario in reality.

00:50:13.000 I think this makes sense, given Cash's background.

00:50:16.000 He helped with the Nunez memo.

00:50:18.000 Which helped go through all the Russiagate bullshit that he helped clarify through.

00:50:22.000 And that's why I think a lot of people have a mark on his back for him.

00:50:25.000 And that's why he has a mark for the media, an eye out for the media because of all the filings and Russiagate scandal that he was heavily involved with helping debunk.

00:50:34.000 And I mean, the media was in bed with the FBI multiple times throughout the Rush hoax.

00:50:40.000 In fact, it was what compiled the Steele dossier.

00:50:43.000 Right.

00:50:44.000 It was leaked media reports on purpose from the FBI to the media to compile the Steele dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

00:50:52.000 And that is just one example, in my opinion, of what we know about.

00:50:57.000 Like, I don't think they just came up with that.

00:51:00.000 I think that that has probably been used in the past.

00:51:03.000 And so when he's talking about holding these people accountable...

00:51:07.000 That's what he's referring to.

00:51:09.000 The fact that the media was used as a conduit to hijack our legal system, to pursue a political opponent.

00:51:16.000 That absolutely needs to be prosecuted.

00:51:19.000 A hundred percent.

00:51:20.000 And I mean, even going as far back as Watergate.

00:51:22.000 I mean, they wanted to get the president out to put in a moderate establishment candidate.

00:51:26.000 And they put him in as vice president. 0.98

00:51:28.000 And that's why they tried to get rid of him, because that guy was a freaking populist. 0.96

00:51:30.000 And honestly, he's pretty based. 0.95

00:51:32.000 To the fullest extent of the law.

00:51:36.000 Like...

00:51:36.000 Every single violation of the law, I want the DOJ to come down like a ton of bricks.

00:51:44.000 And I don't care if it's a conservative or a Republican or a Democrat. 0.73

00:51:48.000 If you've broken the law, I want the DOJ to annihilate you to the fullest extent of the law. 0.95

00:51:56.000 Okay. 0.59

00:51:56.000 Accountability and equality under the law. 0.59

00:51:58.000 100%.

00:51:59.000 No more of this.

00:52:00.000 This is what Cash brought up on this show.

00:52:02.000 Two Antifa lawyers giving up Molotov cocktails during riots in New York, and they wash away the charges and say, okay, we're going to give you a sweetheart deal.

00:52:10.000 And then you've got J6ers, some who are still in solitary confinement without charge. 1.00

00:52:15.000 So, look, if you want to say the J6ers deserve to be in jail, my response is if they committed a crime, they should go to jail. 1.00

00:52:22.000 And so should the liberals and the leftists who commit crimes, they should go to jail as well.

00:52:25.000 And so when we got the five, we call it M29, remember M29, the insurrection, in front of the White House where they forced the president into an emergency bunker, set fire to St. John's Church, and firebombed the White House grounds.

00:52:36.000 Those people should be in jail. 0.72

00:52:38.000 Equality under the law.

00:52:39.000 We don't have that right now, and I hope cash brings it.

00:52:42.000 I absolutely agree.

00:52:43.000 I was there on January 6th.

00:52:44.000 Now, anybody who was there assaulting a police officer, I think that's a crime.

00:52:49.000 But the majority of people, the doors were open.

00:52:51.000 You literally had Capitol Police officers walking people through, and those people are sitting there rotting in jail.

00:52:55.000 I have talked to several ATF agents in Florida who are upset about their job because they were having to go knock on doors to serve warrants and take people's guns away because they were in the Capitol on January 6th. 0.64

00:53:06.000 It's an absolutely ridiculous two-tiered system of justice, and it's wrong.

00:53:10.000 - Madison, do you have any insight to how other members of Congress, Republicans, your former colleagues felt about January 6th? - I do, yes.

00:53:19.000 You know, there were a lot of people who were really upset about it.

00:53:22.000 They just thought that, so many people, they didn't really know how to feel about it, because one, we were all on the floor at the time.

00:53:30.000 I was about to start the debate to contest the election in Wisconsin.

00:53:35.000 And we were all on the floor.

00:53:36.000 All of a sudden, you hear everybody's radios from all the Capitol Police officers start going off, buzzing all around.

00:53:42.000 And then you see these guys get really straight-backed.

00:53:43.000 And it just kind of changed the feelings in the room, started looking around.

00:53:47.000 I had Catherine Treadwell, my deputy chief of staff, in there with me.

00:53:49.000 And I just kind of whispered over to her, hey, can you figure out what's going on?

00:53:52.000 So she went over and was kind of listening in, and when they came back, the report was, hey, someone has gotten into Statuary Hall.

00:54:00.000 Obviously, I think it's just some quick, fast guy who juked out a Capitol Police officer and he's running into the thing.

00:54:06.000 Then all of a sudden, we hear, oh, we're evacuating the house floor.

00:54:12.000 And this was one of the funniest things that happened because when I got into office, it was during COVID. And so they had a very shortened introduction process for all the new members.

00:54:23.000 And so normally they would take you through all the things that you have to do, all the procedures within the Capitol.

00:54:28.000 And so when they said we're taking the emergency evacuation route, we all started rolling out.

00:54:32.000 And then we got to it because we didn't know what was going on.

00:54:35.000 They just said, oh, there's like 6,000 people about to come into these doors.

00:54:38.000 Did you fear for your safety?

00:54:39.000 Not in the slightest.

00:54:40.000 Not in the slightest.

00:54:41.000 Not once.

00:54:41.000 It was not a scary situation.

00:54:43.000 Yeah, but AOC said she had a knock on her door.

00:54:45.000 That's not true.

00:54:46.000 That's not true.

00:54:46.000 That's wrong.

00:54:47.000 It's a lie. 0.99

00:54:48.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:54:48.000 It is a lie. 1.00

00:54:49.000 I gotta just finish this story about the evacuation route.

00:54:52.000 So then we're going.

00:54:53.000 I get to the evacuation route.

00:54:54.000 It is seven flights of stairs.

00:54:55.000 I'm straight down.

00:54:57.000 And I get there, and I had a couple guys like, oh, we'll carry you.

00:54:59.000 I was like, no.

00:55:00.000 That's not it.

00:55:01.000 So then I went and rolled around, and then a couple of my members of Congress came with me, some really good guys.

00:55:07.000 And then that's when I actually got to go into the crowd, and I realized – and there were some troublemakers up in the front.

00:55:12.000 You went out to the crowd while you were leaving.

00:55:14.000 I had to go down to the elevators.

00:55:15.000 There were some troublemakers up in the front, but literally people just – It was a calm group of people who just got out of my way.

00:55:21.000 I was able to roll right through.

00:55:22.000 It was no problem.

00:55:22.000 And so it was blown completely out of proportion, obviously.

00:55:27.000 And I agree.

00:55:28.000 Anybody that broke the law should be prosecuted under law.

00:55:31.000 I hope cash – because this is the problem that we've had with Republican administrations since I've been paying attention to politics in 2000. When Democrats do something wrong, we just say, oh, well, we're going to be the bigger person, and we're just going to move on from it, and it's going to be okay.

00:55:43.000 This has given them a license and an expectation that there are no consequences for their actions.

00:55:49.000 And so I genuinely believe that, as you were saying, Phil, the hammer needs to come down of people being held accountable on both sides.

00:55:56.000 sides.

00:55:57.000 I'm not saying it should just be on the left.

00:55:58.000 The hammer needs to come down so people realize, hey, if you break the Constitution, if you actively work against the commander in chief like is going on within the intel agencies right now, or when Mark Milley is having private meetings.

00:56:08.000 Yes.

00:56:12.000 Absolutely.

00:56:16.000 Did you see that Glenn Beck clip where he was talking to Cash Patel about the JFK assassination and he was bringing up some of the widely accepted premises and Cash is like, well, you're talking to someone who's seen the actual file.

00:56:31.000 And that was very interesting to me.

00:56:34.000 And then I think Joe Rogan straight up asked Trump, why didn't you release it?

00:56:39.000 And Trump's answer was that there were some people at the time who felt as if it wouldn't be in our best interest to release it.

00:56:47.000 But if I get re-elected, I will release the full file.

00:56:50.000 I'm very excited to see if that comes to fruition.

00:56:53.000 There is, in my opinion, there is nothing that is 40 years old That is over 40 years old that will have any kind of significant impact on modern America, so it should all be declassified.

00:57:06.000 And any future declassification, there should be some kind of law passed where any future declassification, there's a sunset on all classified documents.

00:57:13.000 But I don't know if I agree on the 40-year thing.

00:57:15.000 I agree on everything else, but I think it's going to be a case-by-case basis.

00:57:19.000 There are probably documents pertaining to Iran that go back 40 years, which could have an impact on Well, and this is one thing.

00:57:26.000 If they are – there's no one that they are continuing to protect within these sealed documents.

00:57:32.000 These people are all either very close to death or they're dead.

00:57:35.000 We're not trying to send people to jail for what happened.

00:57:37.000 What they are doing is they are protecting the institution of the intel communities because there was a coup that happened. 0.99

00:57:43.000 They shot the president in the freaking head. 0.99

00:57:45.000 Yep. 1.00

00:57:45.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:57:46.000 I wanted to provide an update on the confirmation, the votes for Kash Patel.

00:57:50.000 The votes that would likely be holding it up is Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski from- Two Democrats.

00:57:56.000 Well, two moderate so-called Republicans.

00:57:59.000 But the interesting thing here is that Susan Collins hasn't been a hard no.

00:58:02.000 She says, I don't know Kash Patel.

00:58:04.000 I'd heard his name, but I don't know his background, and I'm going to have to do a lot of work before reaching a decision on him.

00:58:09.000 So it's not a no so far.

00:58:11.000 Madison, I wanted to ask you, what do you make of the picks so far?

00:58:16.000 And Susan Collins seeming to be open to confirming something.

00:58:19.000 Well, that is really good news.

00:58:21.000 I know Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are probably the most ardent and flaky people for our confirmation hearings that we're going to go through.

00:58:28.000 You know, there's some sensible Democrats who I think are in swing states who actually could be kind of – and I say sensible Democrats in jest.

00:58:36.000 But who are in swing states where they realize, man, Trump gained a lot of ground in this state.

00:58:40.000 I have an election coming up in the midterms.

00:58:42.000 I think those people could actually be persuaded to vote for the majority of the picks, probably not the most hard right ones.

00:58:47.000 But when you start looking at what Lisa Murkowski and Senator Collins are doing, my entire thought process on that is, one, there is a political mandate that's been given.

00:59:01.000 Give Donald Trump the cabinet he needs to be able to execute it.

00:59:04.000 And so I think that we're going to have probably 80 to 90 percent of our people get through.

00:59:08.000 And I mean, I have to ask, you know, you're a former congressman.

00:59:12.000 You have as much MAGA bona fides as anybody else that he's picked for his cabinet.

00:59:16.000 Has Trump tried to tap you for anything or what's going on?

00:59:19.000 You know, I will just say this.

00:59:21.000 Anything the president wants me to do, I will happily serve.

00:59:23.000 If he wants me to carry donuts into the office for press briefings, I will happily do it.

00:59:27.000 Whatever this man needs to be able to save our country, I'm happy to do it.

00:59:29.000 If it was a dream scenario, if I could have anything, I wouldn't be director of the ATF. It wouldn't be donuts.

00:59:35.000 It would be McDonald's.

00:59:36.000 It would be McDonald's.

00:59:36.000 That's 100% right.

00:59:37.000 Yeah, I don't know how RFK would feel about it.

00:59:39.000 But, man, when I saw the picture of RFK sitting there eating McDonald's, I literally thought it was just one of those situations where there's some drug guys there sitting there, and they're like, hey, do drugs in front of us so we know you're not a cop.

00:59:49.000 I think he ate the McDonald's.

00:59:51.000 We talked about this, and everyone's memeing like, he didn't eat it, and I'm like, he's not a crazy person.

00:59:56.000 He probably had a cheeseburger.

00:59:58.000 He even made a statement when Donald Trump was working at McDonald's that having a cheeseburger and fries is one of the most American things you can do.

01:00:05.000 And then he was saying, we should just do it in beef tallow, not in seed oil.

01:00:08.000 If you watched, he fried a turkey in beef tallow this past weekend.

01:00:12.000 Which I thought was freaking sick.

01:00:13.000 But, you know, I will tell you, especially if I was to be able to get ATF, there's so many changes that you can make.

01:00:18.000 One, all the frontline boots on the ground guys would be extremely happy because I would have them actually start going after criminals.

01:00:23.000 If you want to bring heat-seeking missiles into our country through the southern border, if I was in charge, the ATF is going to be there to...

01:00:29.000 Take you out right away.

01:00:31.000 And then also, I mean, the cumbersome stuff that they impose on gun store owners, I mean, there's so many redundant pieces of paperwork.

01:00:39.000 People will come into these guys, and it's a massive fear for gun store owners because these ATF, you know, just lackeys will come in and say, well, you know what, when you were doing this serial number, this six looks a whole lot like a G, and so that's incorrect, so we're now going to take your license.

01:00:53.000 Your entire livelihood's gone.

01:00:54.000 Also, another thing that is really freaky with the ATF is they require...

01:00:58.000 All gun stores to keep records in perpetuity of everything they've ever done.

01:01:03.000 I know several gun stores in my hometown that have been there for 20, 25 years.

01:01:07.000 And then if you ever close down shop, you then have to send the physical paperwork to the ATF on your own cost.

01:01:13.000 25 years of paperwork being sent is a massive, massive cost.

01:01:18.000 We're talking thousands and thousands of dollars.

01:01:19.000 But also, they effectively now have a gun registry of who owns every single firearm in the country.

01:01:25.000 And so there's just some things that need to be done.

01:01:27.000 Also, the ATF needs to be a convenience store.

01:01:29.000 Literally, if I got director of that, I would open up a quick service place where you can come in, you can grab a beer, you can grab whatever you need to do, a home brew, and you can buy a Benelli 12-gauge whenever you want.

01:01:39.000 There are, in fact, Walmarts that function as such.

01:01:42.000 You can go to Walmart, you can pick up the milk, cigarettes.

01:01:45.000 Booze and guns. 0.97

01:01:46.000 That's Walmart in the right places.

01:01:48.000 But I think you make a great point about Bucky's.

01:01:51.000 We make the joke.

01:01:52.000 Bucky's is great, too.

01:01:52.000 We make the point about how, like, oh, the ATF should be a convenience store, right?

01:01:56.000 Well, in all seriousness, though, the ATF should be stopping terrorists on the border who are trying to bring in explosives and dangerous weapons and not bothering some small business in Tennessee or something.

01:02:07.000 Not peaceable gun owners.

01:02:08.000 I mean, my biggest problem with the ATF is they are focusing on, you know, political rivals.

01:02:12.000 They're donking on doors of January Sixers.

01:02:14.000 They're doing things like this.

01:02:15.000 But at the end of the day, there are actual crimes that do need to be investigated.

01:02:19.000 You know, if we've got Venezuelan gangs taking over buildings and they have hand grenades, you know, I've got a problem with just random people having hand grenades in the country they can just throw into a store. 0.57

01:02:26.000 That's the kind of stuff we want to be hunting.

01:02:28.000 And all these freaking analysts that exist inside of Washington, D.C. in the capital, one, when people are upset, well, if you do all this deportation, who's going to pick all the – who's going to go – To handle all the farms.

01:02:38.000 The number one, well, they need to get another talking point from when they tried to continue slavery.

01:02:43.000 But also, my number one thing is like, well, I've got 9,000 analysts we can fire from the ATF because they're not doing anything.

01:02:49.000 They need jobs.

01:02:50.000 Yeah, I'm telling you, all the ex-federal employees, they're going to need jobs.

01:02:54.000 Let's jump to the story from ABC News.

01:02:56.000 Mexican authorities broke up two migrant caravans heading to the U.S. activists say some migrants were bused to southern Mexico and others have been offered transit papers.

01:03:05.000 This story broke over the holiday week and I just find it so funny that Donald Trump threatened these massive tariffs and then instantly two massive migrant caravans who had been tracking the news have just seemingly disappeared.

01:03:17.000 And Trudeau came down and had conversations with Trump where I think Trump joked about annexing Canada or something like that.

01:03:23.000 Yeah, tariffs work. 0.90

01:03:24.000 Tariffs work. 0.98

01:03:25.000 Well, it's not so much the tariffs work, it's that Trump is a great businessman.

01:03:29.000 He knew, and this is the funny thing, there was that viral video where it's a phone call and Trump is saying, I told Putin if you invade Ukraine and I told Xi if you invade Taiwan, I will nuke you.

01:03:41.000 And he's like, I don't know if they believe me, maybe 5%, but that's enough, right?

01:03:44.000 And that is what Trump is.

01:03:46.000 They believe it just enough.

01:03:47.000 Trump goes to them and says, I'm going to put these tariffs on you.

01:03:50.000 You think I care?

01:03:52.000 Give me what I want.

01:03:53.000 Stop the illegal immigration. 1.00

01:03:54.000 And Mexico said, done. 0.78

01:03:56.000 Because they looked at Trump and Trump said, we will play a game of chicken and you will lose.

01:04:00.000 Which makes Kamala Harris's position as borders are even more comical. 1.00

01:04:04.000 That she was given charge and the White House said she's only supposed to be dealing with the countries of origin where they're causing migrants to come through Mexico and into the United States.

01:04:16.000 And Trump makes one phone call and before he is in office, the guy is not elected yet.

01:04:22.000 And they've already started showing signs that he is the current president of the United States.

01:04:26.000 It's incredible.

01:04:27.000 And he just said that, okay, all the hostages in Palestine need to be returned before my first day in office or it's going to be hell to pay.

01:04:35.000 The thing that I love about him is so many people, and there's a massive fear.

01:04:40.000 I think everybody can recognize this.

01:04:41.000 There's a massive fear of the unknown.

01:04:43.000 If you know there's a consequence that's going to come for something, it's like when your parents, you know you did something wrong, but they're not telling you what your punishment is.

01:04:48.000 That's worse than the actual punishment.

01:04:49.000 It happened to me when I got my first speeding ticket.

01:04:51.000 First of many.

01:04:53.000 When you were six.

01:04:56.000 But the fear of the unknown is what keeps people in check.

01:04:59.000 And that's the thing that I love about Donald Trump is these foreign nations don't know what Donald Trump's going to do.

01:05:03.000 Is he going to send a mean tweet at you and say, my button's bigger than yours?

01:05:06.000 Is he going to put tariffs on you?

01:05:07.000 Is he going to bomb Soleimani?

01:05:08.000 Is he going to nuke you?

01:05:09.000 What is he going to do?

01:05:10.000 They don't know.

01:05:11.000 And so it makes them afraid because normally in politics say, oh, they're going to do a proportional response to this.

01:05:15.000 So if we make this action, you know, that's the cost benefit ratio is enough for us.

01:05:18.000 Yeah.

01:05:20.000 that entire algorithm out the window and says, you don't know what I'm going to do.

01:05:23.000 And when we're talking about how great of a businessman he is, I know so many people who are starting businesses today just because they know the economy is going to do so well.

01:05:31.000 I mean, like, literally, there's a guy who's trying to create an Amazon competitor called Rivoli, which is a direct-to-consumer marketplace, just like Amazon, but it's literally just American-made stuff because he knows we're going to onshore so many businesses.

01:05:41.000 I know guys because of how friendly he's been to crypto.

01:05:43.000 They just started, I think it's called Sido, a new company for indexing so we can create more blockchain technology.

01:05:49.000 It's these incredible ideas where people are literally just creating jobs because Donald Trump was elected.

01:05:55.000 He's not even in office yet.

01:05:56.000 He hasn't changed the economy yet, but people are like, "We're going to create American jobs because we know it's going to be great." He's so elective- He ignores the fact that what an administration signals to the broad economy matters significantly.

01:06:09.000 Like, if you're telling people that are entrepreneurs or telling businesses, "Hey, look, there's going to be regulations, and there's going to be this, and there's going to be that hurdle, and the profits that you make, we're going to tax at X, and if you make too much money, you're going to tax at X." It disincentivizes people from actually taking action in the real world.

01:06:29.000 Donald Trump coming and being elected means that there's going to be significantly less interference in the market.

01:06:35.000 And it makes for a good environment to start businesses and to and to take economic risk, because if you're if you're going to spend the money and taking a risk economically, you want to be able to to make as much of a return as you can.

01:06:49.000 And if you don't have that kind of guarantee, or if you don't have the sense that the administration is going to be friendly to business, you're not going to want to take that risk.

01:06:58.000 Sorry.

01:06:58.000 It's okay.

01:06:59.000 I was just going to say Trump so effectively uses his presidential bully pulpit where he's effectively able to threaten other countries and get things done before he actually has to do official acts to effect change.

01:07:10.000 So what does this mean?

01:07:11.000 It means that he said he wants peace in the Middle East before he comes to office.

01:07:14.000 There's already a truce in Lebanon.

01:07:16.000 There's a ceasefire between the Israelis and Lebanon.

01:07:18.000 He only needs to make threats of tariffs against Canada and Mexico.

01:07:22.000 And now you see pictures of him sitting next to Justin Trudeau all smiling and everything.

01:07:26.000 He says he wants to be very hard against the border and he won't cooperate with Mexico unless they effectively stop the flow of migration.

01:07:32.000 And now we're seeing them actually put their foot down in Mexico and stopping the flow of migration.

01:07:36.000 So Trump gets to do these things and it's amazing how effective he is without actually having to even be in office yet.

01:07:43.000 It's amazing!

01:07:44.000 As soon as he won the election, then we started hearing everybody was chilling out.

01:07:48.000 The war is like, there's conversations that certain groups are calling for peace, if you know what I mean.

01:07:54.000 And then they try claiming it has nothing to do with Donald Trump, but certainly Donald Trump has already gotten on the phone and he started making these changes.

01:08:01.000 The response from Democrats has been to say, I thought Trump said he was going to end the war in 24 hours. 0.74

01:08:06.000 It's ridiculous.

01:08:07.000 Why has he only initiated peace talk so far? 0.88

01:08:09.000 It's like...

01:08:09.000 He hasn't even taken office, so the 24-hour clock hasn't even started.

01:08:15.000 No, he did say, within winning the election, 24 hours, I'll get on the phone and I'll end this war.

01:08:20.000 He did say that.

01:08:21.000 But, look, this is what they always do.

01:08:24.000 They claim that Trump is speaking 100% literally on everything he's doing.

01:08:28.000 There was this really funny post where, who was it?

01:08:31.000 It was J.D. Vance, I think.

01:08:33.000 Some reporter wrote a fact check saying that...

01:08:37.000 I'm sorry, J.D. Vance said something like, my kids are ravenous.

01:08:40.000 They eat like a dozen eggs a day.

01:08:43.000 And the reporter wrote it would be impossible for his two children to consume 24 eggs per day.

01:08:48.000 He's talking about hundreds of eggs per month.

01:08:51.000 And he was like...

01:08:52.000 I was just being hyperbolic.

01:08:55.000 I was exaggerating.

01:08:56.000 Like, if I said I was so hungry I could eat a horse, I mean, I'm literally going to eat a horse.

01:08:59.000 But this is what the media does.

01:09:01.000 You say something like Trump says, I'll get it done in 24 hours.

01:09:04.000 And they go, OK, clock's ticking.

01:09:05.000 And he's like, well, I didn't mean literally.

01:09:06.000 I meant I would get done fast. 0.81

01:09:08.000 Again, you just can't hate these people enough because literally the Democrats can come out and blatantly lie to the American people and they'll say, oh, well, if you look at it through the context of this political quagmire we have, it's a beautiful thought they had when they said that, you know, we want to chemically castrate children. 0.53

01:09:27.000 Oh. 0.99

01:09:29.000 It's just insane.

01:09:30.000 But then when we say, oh, we're going to end the war in 24 hours, like, well, it's been two hours and only six countries have stopped attacking each other.

01:09:37.000 That will happen, too.

01:09:39.000 Like, they will do their fact check there.

01:09:40.000 Caroline Levitt put out something the other day that was really interesting where she got an email from a reporter.

01:09:45.000 It was either like Washington Post or New York Times that said there is a certain location in the United States where they have had racist things spray painted on the sides of buildings.

01:09:56.000 Now, nothing is directly tying this to Donald Trump, but it occurred after his election.

01:10:01.000 So does the Trump campaign have anything that they want to say in relation to the fact that these events are occurring or basically accept any responsibility?

01:10:11.000 Well, the mental gymnastics that these journalists have to get to to get to a point where they have no story and have to try and conjure up something to try and link things together is just wildly outrageous.

01:10:25.000 This is because we got rid of bullying in the United States.

01:10:28.000 I think there's a lot of reasons that people are being aggressively bullied.

01:10:31.000 It's a problem.

01:10:32.000 Exactly.

01:10:32.000 But I will tell you, there is some sense of holding social norms and holding people to account that has been lost.

01:10:38.000 Let me clarify, too, because the left always takes bullying to its most extreme form.

01:10:43.000 And I don't think bullying may be the right word.

01:10:45.000 Shame.

01:10:46.000 Shaming.

01:10:47.000 That is a much better word.

01:10:48.000 I would change my word to shame.

01:10:50.000 And the point, the reason for that is the more you have society that will police itself, the less actual involvement from the government you need.

01:11:00.000 You don't need police to go ahead and round people up if people are too embarrassed to misbehave.

01:11:06.000 If you look at the way that people behave in Japan, There's a lot of streamers that have been going to Japan and to South Korea lately.

01:11:14.000 They're being a nuisance.

01:11:16.000 And the people in Japan and the people in South Korea are not taking it anymore.

01:11:21.000 When they do get arrested, they get significant fines.

01:11:24.000 And a lot of times they don't get arrested because there are people in, just normal people, that will stop them and tell them to knock it off.

01:11:32.000 The reason that works...

01:11:35.000 It's because the society doesn't approve of these things and that means that you don't need to have police running around arresting people all the time.

01:11:45.000 The more you have society police itself and the more you shame people for misbehaving and behaving in ways that are unacceptable in public and behaving in ways that are unacceptable for your family or whatever, the less you need government involvement in people's lives.

01:12:02.000 I think a great point to this is anybody who shoots often, you go to any kind of shooting race, whether it's indoor or outdoor, you don't see a lot of arguments on gun rages because you know that there are extraordinary consequences to it.

01:12:14.000 I feel like that's just the same thing in the South.

01:12:17.000 You don't see a lot of people doing home invasions in the South.

01:12:20.000 Because you know there are extreme consequences to it. 0.95

01:12:22.000 When there are sheriffs in Southwest Florida, my favorite sheriff in the world, Carmine Marcino, he literally said after a big hurricane, he's like, I'm just going to encourage you guys, probably don't want to go looting in Southwest Florida because you don't know what's waiting behind the door and I don't want to have to do the paperwork of booking you, so I'm encouraging my citizens to shoot you.

01:12:40.000 I want to stress, too, with the gun range thing.

01:12:43.000 In fact, I see quite the opposite of arguments.

01:12:45.000 I see Unity.

01:12:45.000 And I went to Xcal.

01:12:48.000 It's a range in, I think it's in Leesburg.

01:12:50.000 I've heard of Xcal.

01:12:50.000 Yeah, they're pretty well known because they have full auto and you can bring it in.

01:12:54.000 And I'm standing there with my friends and we went to to fire some weapons.

01:12:57.000 And yes, full auto. 0.56

01:12:58.000 And I saw there was a black gentleman and a woman laughing and smiling and shooting with their weapons. 0.93

01:13:05.000 And then just one one booth over.

01:13:07.000 There were some Arabic individuals in what would appear to be more Arabic outfits.

01:13:11.000 There were some Indian individuals.

01:13:12.000 There were some Asians that were there and there were white people.

01:13:15.000 And I said, everybody was smiling and laughing and getting along.

01:13:18.000 And then there was one like some Latino guys were asking the black guy about it, about his gun.

01:13:23.000 And he was explaining it to him.

01:13:24.000 And I was like, look at this.

01:13:25.000 People of all different backgrounds and creeds coming together and smiling at a gun range.

01:13:29.000 Haven't haven't haven't fun shooting targets with big guns, full metal melting pot.

01:13:34.000 Full metal melting pot.

01:13:36.000 This is the best comms director in the world.

01:13:38.000 And so this is actually one reason why I am so big on culture and traditions in America.

01:13:44.000 Again, tradition is not the preservation of – it's not the worship of ashes.

01:13:48.000 It's the preservation of fire.

01:13:50.000 But this is something like – I'm not the biggest football fan in the world, but I think that the Super Bowl should be celebrated every single year because it's shared activities that bring people together.

01:13:59.000 It's the reason why I think smoking cigars can save the entire country because if everyone is sitting there smoking a cigar, you are now locked into a 25-minute conversation.

01:14:06.000 And then all the prerecorded responses – Tim, go ahead.

01:14:09.000 I was going to say you're right on the Super Bowl.

01:14:11.000 Yeah.

01:14:11.000 If everybody has a shared cultural identity and understanding – and I don't mean like absolutely.

01:14:17.000 Like you can be a Muslim in Dearborn, Michigan, but you're like, hey, the Super Bowl is on. 1.00

01:14:22.000 It's something that we all get together.

01:14:23.000 We're all going to get together and watch.

01:14:24.000 It's not a religious thing.

01:14:25.000 It's just a cultural thing where we enjoy it.

01:14:27.000 That's good for this country.

01:14:29.000 It's good for any country.

01:14:30.000 It's the same thing.

01:14:31.000 But you look at it, and unfortunately, we don't have a lot of those things in the United States, and I think we should encourage and foster more of those and help encourage those.

01:14:39.000 I mean, whether it's the Victoria's Secret fashion show, whether it's the freaking girls in high schoolers going to prom.

01:14:45.000 I mean, who doesn't see a bunch of high schoolers at a nice restaurant when you're going out on a date with your wife, and you see them all dressed up going to prom, and you don't stop by and be like, oh, Oh man, I hope you guys have a great night.

01:14:53.000 It's going to be so much fun for you.

01:14:54.000 It's just a shared activity where everyone can be all unified in one thing.

01:14:58.000 And when you see people doing something that you enjoy doing, that you know a lot about, whether it's Latinos and black guys at a gun range showing each other their weapons, it humanizes one another.

01:15:08.000 And so I think that's something we need to do in America is to foster more tradition and cultural.

01:15:12.000 Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial chaos at MSNBC as Rachel Maddow furious at Morning Joe hosts for meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, according to a report.

01:15:21.000 Rachel Maddow is pissed at them, as are other presenters like Chris Hayes and Ari Melber.

01:15:25.000 Not only that, but MSNBC is, once again, suffering its worst ever ratings, hitting a key demographic of viewership of 38,000.

01:15:33.000 So it's funny because Rachel Maddow is getting paid $25 million to talk to nobody.

01:15:38.000 So I don't know what's going on with MSNBC, why it matters, but I will say for us what matters is this is the downward spiral.

01:15:46.000 You got Keith Olbermann came out and said Rachel Maddow sold out her principles for $25 million.

01:15:51.000 That's wild to me. 0.94

01:15:52.000 And now she's going after Morning Joe because they're trying in fear, I might add, but to, you know, try and apologize, I guess, to Trump for having been so just nasty and to be being liars. 0.95

01:16:06.000 But this is it. 0.97

01:16:07.000 We're watching the internal combustion, I suppose, of these lunatics who were willing to say anything for cash. 0.92

01:16:15.000 I think they're doing a little good cop, bad cop action.

01:16:18.000 Joe and Meek are desperate for access to Donald Trump.

01:16:21.000 So I think that's why they went to go kiss their rings because they want some late night phone calls from Donald Trump like Maggie Haberman gets from the New York Times.

01:16:28.000 They want Maggie Haberman treatment. 1.00

01:16:30.000 Do you know who held Matt Gaetz's congressional seat in Florida's first congressional district in the early 2000s?

01:16:35.000 Joe?

01:16:36.000 Joe Scarborough.

01:16:37.000 That's insane.

01:16:38.000 No.

01:16:38.000 Are you serious?

01:16:39.000 No.

01:16:39.000 Go Scarborough.

01:16:41.000 Isn't that something?

01:16:42.000 And his dad was also a career politician.

01:16:45.000 I forget the entire history.

01:16:46.000 Joe donated to Gates at one point early on.

01:16:49.000 Wow.

01:16:50.000 The back and forth that this guy has done...

01:16:55.000 It's just staggering.

01:16:56.000 Well, he's the one who initially brought Trump into the fold early on in the first Republican primary that Trump ran in.

01:17:02.000 They used to bring him on all the time, just like the people at The View did.

01:17:05.000 They helped platform Trump and make him into a candidate at the beginning for his budding political career.

01:17:11.000 Yeah.

01:17:11.000 And I'll tell you, just for Americans who aren't steeped in political culture and media since, just so you understand, if you had 38,000 people in a room, that's a ton of people.

01:17:22.000 But literally, on an Instagram story post, I think I get 300,000 views on average.

01:17:27.000 If these guys are getting 38,000 on MSNBC and they're being paid $25 million a year, it's insane.

01:17:33.000 The math just does not make sense.

01:17:35.000 More than that, you get those numbers in the key demographic.

01:17:37.000 Most of the people watching at MSNBC are 65-plus and not an advertiser-friendly age group.

01:17:45.000 Such an enormous shift to independent media, to social media platforms, and also the plurality of these platforms allows for the competition.

01:17:56.000 I don't think we've necessarily seen this yet, and actually Tim might have a different opinion on that because I'm not in the streaming business, but if you get more and more that are competing with each other, my hope is that their standard of cracking down on certain types of speech is going to allow for more free speech because when you allow the free market to have so many different options as opposed to one individual having a monopoly, it allows for many people to choose from those different options.

01:18:18.000 I think that's what you see on X.

01:18:19.000 They tried to fight the corporate press, the media.

01:18:23.000 They attacked YouTube.

01:18:24.000 YouTube attacked back.

01:18:25.000 And they were hoping to shut down shows like this.

01:18:27.000 But it didn't matter.

01:18:29.000 And I've explained this quite a bit.

01:18:31.000 It is not an issue of you've got a group of Gen Z that one day saw the light and watched a YouTube video and went, oh, wow, Trump was right. 0.83

01:18:38.000 It's that the younger generations are already feeling these politics or thinking these things.

01:18:43.000 And as they get older and move into the political space, they already are more inclined to agree with a show like Joe Rogan's or ours or Dan Bongino, for instance.

01:18:52.000 So when they try to suppress and censor this at the corporate level, like Google or whatever companies, it works for a period.

01:19:00.000 But eventually cable news loses all its money and the advertisers step in and they're like, why can't we advertise on the biggest shows?

01:19:08.000 And YouTube eventually has no choice but to back off and reduce the censorship because this is where the conversation is going to happen.

01:19:16.000 They have no choice at this point but to say, this is the direction the country is going.

01:19:21.000 Trump won.

01:19:22.000 He won the popular vote.

01:19:23.000 The Republicans won everything.

01:19:25.000 And the reason they lost is because they tried so desperately to engage in this weird censorship, which created this...

01:19:30.000 What ended up happening was you had the authentic world, where it was regular people having real debates, and then you had the fictional Democrat cult liberal media world, where it was manufactured and everybody hated it.

01:19:40.000 And it blew up in their faces.

01:19:42.000 We are moving now into this new era...

01:19:44.000 Following the podcast presidency, they call it.

01:19:47.000 Ad rates are already starting to go through the roof.

01:19:50.000 We're hearing from these big...

01:19:51.000 There's big networks that are buyers.

01:19:52.000 For a long time, they said, everybody wants TV. Then it started shifting.

01:19:57.000 Well, podcasts are doing really, really well.

01:19:58.000 Now it's not even podcasts.

01:20:00.000 It's YouTube, specifically.

01:20:02.000 Yes.

01:20:02.000 The big networks are saying, we don't really care about Apple, Spotify, and other platforms anymore.

01:20:06.000 We want YouTube access because we want video components.

01:20:09.000 So Spotify says, we're going to make it so you can watch videos on Spotify now.

01:20:12.000 And then YouTube went...

01:20:14.000 Oops.

01:20:15.000 Because 10 years ago, YouTube had the vodcasting monopoly.

01:20:20.000 And what did they do?

01:20:21.000 Started banning people and shutting it down in fear and panic.

01:20:25.000 Now they regret that, I bet.

01:20:27.000 Well, I imagine they do, but at the same time, when you have Spotify trying to do what YouTube is doing, I mean, they started picking up the podcast because YouTube was banning people and saying, you know, hey, we don't want this on our platform, which is, I mean, obviously it was a blunder.

01:20:47.000 But that's why it's good to have markets and have other competition.

01:20:54.000 Spotify started picking people up.

01:20:55.000 Joe Rogan, he was the biggest podcast on YouTube, and then he went over to Spotify.

01:21:02.000 And I understand it wasn't an exclusive deal and stuff, but at the same time...

01:21:06.000 At first it was.

01:21:06.000 At first it was?

01:21:07.000 Yeah.

01:21:07.000 So for a little while, YouTube's like, oh, you know...

01:21:11.000 What the heck are we going to do now?

01:21:13.000 And it made Joe Rogan a lot of money.

01:21:16.000 But that's why it's important to have multiple places where you can actually go for these different ideas and stuff.

01:21:24.000 So the fact that the mainstream media has a unified voice, it didn't matter because you had places like YouTube and because you had places like Spotify to actually present this stuff.

01:21:38.000 And it was...

01:21:40.000 There was a time where the mainstream was trying to squash this stuff, right?

01:21:45.000 After January 6th, Parler got completely and totally boned because all their servers were on Amazon, and Amazon helped cut them out, and Gab has a problem with some of their user base being a little too edgy and stuff like that.

01:22:01.000 But the fact that there are options, it's a big deal, and it matters, you know?

01:22:06.000 I think Ben Shapiro was talking about how they're having to really pour a lot of infrastructure into their website and trying to drive people off of some of these excess platforms like YouTube because they feel as if there could come a point where they have put so much stock in these platforms that if they completely just yank it away, then they're left with nothing.

01:22:25.000 And so they want to drive people back to their website individually.

01:22:28.000 And one of the other, and I want to, you know, get Tim's opinion on that too, but the other thing too, I was reading a book about how to essentially build up your listener base as well.

01:22:37.000 This author, I think his name was Graham Cochran, was suggesting that it's not, you should not focus on building up your social media, but rather your email list.

01:22:46.000 Because people don't change their emails, but you don't know what's going to happen to a particular platform.

01:22:51.000 If Twitter gets bought out and changed, then, you know, that was great for us, but for the libs, you know, they're...

01:22:57.000 It was great for them, too, but they were mad.

01:22:59.000 It was great for everybody.

01:22:59.000 Yeah, so the meme about the left is they're not mad that they're being censored.

01:23:03.000 They're being mad that you're no longer censored.

01:23:06.000 Yeah, which is why they thought it was a bad thing.

01:23:08.000 I completely agree.

01:23:10.000 But because of that purchase, a lot of people left.

01:23:12.000 That's social media platform.

01:23:14.000 So this person's arguing that you basically have to create your own little bubble of infrastructure, build up your following on the website, and people don't change their email addresses.

01:23:23.000 They might go off of a platform, a platform like Parler, you know, if we want it to stay around, that's great, but it might just wake up and it's not there the next day.

01:23:30.000 You don't know what's going to happen to it, but it's essentially like your mailing address.

01:23:34.000 You always have some form of a mailing address.

01:23:35.000 You might switch your email address, but it's far less often than if you move off of a social media platform.

01:23:41.000 I do think there's something to say about originally mainstream media got a lot of their credibility from being the only ones around.

01:23:47.000 They were the only news sources.

01:23:48.000 They had a monopoly and now we have different social media platforms allowing different types of accessibility.

01:23:53.000 So now that's not what the mainstream media is good for.

01:23:56.000 But the thing that I still think that they have that other podcasts don't is access.

01:24:00.000 They have access to high ranking political officials.

01:24:03.000 They have access to different representatives.

01:24:05.000 Madison, maybe you could tell us a little bit about this, but I don't know.

01:24:07.000 It seems for every scoop from even from Republican reps, it always goes to Politico, New York Times, Axios.

01:24:12.000 It's never really going to the Daily Wire.

01:24:14.000 It's never really going to Timcast.

01:24:15.000 So it's still in the Republican ecosystem of elected officials.

01:24:19.000 They go to MSNBC, you know, I mean, they'll still do some Fox and Fox will still get some breaking news.

01:24:24.000 But, you know, Trump talks to Maggie Haberman from the New York Times all the time and And Axios, I read Axios' news because that's where they're getting a lot of these quotes from.

01:24:32.000 It's generational.

01:24:33.000 So right now, we've had Kash Patel on this show, I think, what, three times or more?

01:24:38.000 Three times?

01:24:39.000 Four times.

01:24:40.000 And he's fantastic.

01:24:42.000 We're huge fans, and I consider him a friend of the show.

01:24:44.000 This world is changing.

01:24:46.000 The people that are entering this administration, we know many of them.

01:24:50.000 And this is where that access is moving into our space, and you're going to get real, authentic conversations.

01:24:56.000 Maggie Haberman and these people at The Times or whatever, they're plastic people.

01:25:00.000 But the Republicans give them access.

01:25:02.000 Of course, of course.

01:25:03.000 And they shouldn't.

01:25:04.000 But it doesn't matter what I think they should or shouldn't do because it will change.

01:25:07.000 And in the future, it's not going to be, let's say in 15, 20 years, it's no longer going to be like the New York Times calling a person like Kash Patel and saying, we need a quote on this.

01:25:16.000 It's going to be Kash Patel being like, hey, can I pop on the show and talk about a thing that's going on?

01:25:19.000 And it's going to be more authentic, raw conversations.

01:25:22.000 Where your political leaders, your law enforcement leaders are going to sit down two hours raw and be like, dude, I will tell you exactly what is happening.

01:25:30.000 And you judge for yourself if you think I'm telling the truth.

01:25:31.000 But when you put someone in that position, like Donald Trump talking for three hours with Rogan, you see the authentic conversation.

01:25:37.000 You can see where Trump is like, maybe I don't want to answer this or whatever.

01:25:40.000 and he tries and you get it but this is why Kamala Harris couldn't do it it's why the shows she went on was a deeply controlled system where she said you come to me and then you had that moment where Hannity said that staffers are back there being like we got to go we got to go like we're out of time that's that's that's all over that we are moving into the podcast era authenticity well just to touch on your question earlier but I will say it one big part that is changing isn't you guys especially when I came into office and a lot of people started following and coming into office

01:26:09.000 I mean we would break stories to our friends versus going to the to the times or going to at politico and things like that because we know that's the future and these are our friends We want to help our friends.

01:26:19.000 That's one thing that I love about the conservative movement is we have created an ecosystem where Obviously, the establishment came really hard after me, but I didn't lose a single friend who's in the conservative movement.

01:26:29.000 We also use the legacy media to our advantage, too, because in D.C., here's another thing that people like the Times and the Washington Post are now having to deal with, is that Republicans like the hit pieces that are being written against them a lot of the time.

01:26:44.000 And the way that you were supposed to harness that, it is essentially earned media.

01:26:49.000 If you get a hit piece written by the New York Times or somebody like that against a Republican because everybody knows that the Times and the Post are against Republicans.

01:26:59.000 So you are presented with a gift from the legacy media.

01:27:03.000 And if you don't take that and start fundraising off of it immediately, then you have just wasted an enormous opportunity.

01:27:10.000 There were headlines that Madison would get sometimes that we would get and I would read the hit piece and be like, this is pretty decent.

01:27:16.000 We ought to send out an email blast on this.

01:27:18.000 Exactly.

01:27:19.000 You know, we call the reporter and I'd say, so at what point does this cross the line and become an in-kind contribution to the campaign?

01:27:25.000 Honestly.

01:27:26.000 And so Republicans need to adapt because the environment has changed from where it was a decade ago.

01:27:33.000 It's not the end of your political career if you get a bad article written about you.

01:27:37.000 It is an opportunity. 0.99

01:27:38.000 And if you take that opportunity and understand the media landscape now and utilize it, then you can profit off of their idiocy. 0.97

01:27:45.000 That's really smart, especially considering how the entire, the whole of the conservative world understands that the existing legacy media has nothing but contempt for them. 0.97

01:27:58.000 And any opportunity that they can get to slime you, they're going to take.

01:28:03.000 So for the...

01:28:06.000 The conservatives that are just the average news consumer that's conservative, they know the New York Times is not going to be treating conservatives fairly.

01:28:15.000 So it's a badge of honor now to say, look, they're running hit pieces on me.

01:28:20.000 That means I'm effective.

01:28:21.000 You should give me money.

01:28:23.000 Exactly.

01:28:24.000 One of the number one things that I think is my favorite that's kind of becoming very popular now is judge me by my enemies.

01:28:31.000 I judge people by their enemies.

01:28:33.000 If you're not hated by the deep state – we were joking about this earlier – if you haven't served a subpoena from the federal government, I really have a hard time trusting you.

01:28:40.000 Well, I've never been.

01:28:41.000 I haven't been.

01:28:43.000 But going back to your question, but D.C. is kind of slow to move because there are so many long-term career politicians in office still.

01:28:52.000 And I will tell you this is how leadership on both sides would kind of handle people is if you were doing something incorrect or something bad that the leadership did not like, they would go to Fox.

01:29:02.000 They would go to some of these big-name corporations, the legacy media, and say, hey, do not have this person on for a little while.

01:29:07.000 Right.

01:29:07.000 But then if they disobeyed, they would be like, okay, well, we're going to start sending people to do interviews with your competition.

01:29:13.000 And they'll say, you want to break our request?

01:29:16.000 Okay, cool.

01:29:16.000 We're going to start sending people to CNN to do things right when you're doing it.

01:29:20.000 So it'll draw viewership over that way.

01:29:22.000 Trump does that too.

01:29:23.000 Trump does that often.

01:29:24.000 He masterfully would do it.

01:29:25.000 Like during the primaries, when they're having eight people up there trying to out-Republican each other, he holds a rally.

01:29:33.000 That draws three times as much of a viewership as the actual debate would.

01:29:37.000 So it's like, you know, eight second place people fighting over each other to get the runner-up position in the primary election.

01:29:44.000 Or you could watch the de facto Republican nominee give a speech to his supporters.

01:29:49.000 Which one are you going to go with?

01:29:50.000 But like I said, he could do that with big things like rallies or whatever, but he can derail conversations just by tweeting.

01:29:59.000 While it's happening, he could just go ahead and say, well, I'm going to go ahead and comment on it, and then the people that are actually involved in the conversation, they might have to completely change their narrative or whatever because of what Donald Trump said.

01:30:13.000 That's really, really, really impressive.

01:30:16.000 And...

01:30:16.000 Whereas Donald Trump has a unique bully pulpit, it's not like that is impossible for other people.

01:30:23.000 If you tweet something out, the people that understand the context or whatever, they will actually change what they're doing depending on what you're saying, especially in D.C. when it comes to lawmakers or whatever.

01:30:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:30:38.000 What enormous power to be able to just use that leverage.

01:30:42.000 And even out of office, there was a certain point where Trump had been totally written off back right after January 6th and things like that.

01:30:51.000 The small group of people that were around him helped rebuild that influence.

01:30:56.000 And the ones that were around him, even at that very beginning, were the loyal ones that helped him rebuild this team and take over.

01:31:04.000 I'm really optimistic.

01:31:06.000 I know we got 50 days.

01:31:07.000 Okay, we got December.

01:31:09.000 In three weeks, we are going to be at AmFest live on stage for the last show of the year.

01:31:14.000 And it's the way that the calendar...

01:31:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:17.000 I know, it's gonna be epic.

01:31:18.000 And we're talking to them like, hey, because we had Tucker Carlson last time, and that was an honor and a privilege.

01:31:22.000 It was awesome.

01:31:23.000 And usually Charlie joins us.

01:31:25.000 We're big fans.

01:31:25.000 So I'm wondering who it's gonna be.

01:31:26.000 I'm really excited.

01:31:28.000 Actually, you guys gave me a shout-out in that one.

01:31:31.000 Oh, we did?

01:31:31.000 Yeah, because that was when the number one trending thing on Twitter at the time was Madison was right.

01:31:37.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:31:37.000 And then Charlie Kirk just leaned back and said, Madison was right!

01:31:40.000 And then there was a big applause, so thank you for that.

01:31:42.000 It's kind of gross how you ended up being proven right, if you know what I mean, like the video that went around.

01:31:46.000 But no, I'm just excited.

01:31:48.000 You know, we've got...

01:31:50.000 Eighteen days from now, so it's not even three weeks, it's going to be on the 20th, we'll be at AmFest, and then the next week is all of Christmas and New Year's, so we're basically off for two weeks.

01:31:58.000 Oh man, I'll come to AmFest, why don't you guys?

01:31:59.000 Yeah, you should definitely show up, and I'm looking at how this last month of the year is going.

01:32:05.000 I'm looking at Trump's appointments, and I'm looking at January 3rd, January 6th, January 20th.

01:32:12.000 I don't know if I'm supposed to say anything yet, but it's going to be epic in D.C. in the month of January.

01:32:17.000 It's going to be fantastic.

01:32:19.000 And the left is going to be like, they're planning a J6 again?

01:32:22.000 No, no, no.

01:32:23.000 It's going to be like parties.

01:32:24.000 It's going to be big shows.

01:32:25.000 All the big personalities are showing up, planning on covering this historic inauguration.

01:32:31.000 I'm super excited.

01:32:34.000 And we've got to get through 50 days, huh?

01:32:37.000 Look, I don't know what anyone else has been told, but the 6th of January is going to come, whether they like it or not.

01:32:43.000 What happens on the 6th of January is not going to be similar to what happened in 2021, but they're not going to be able to stop January 6th.

01:32:49.000 That's coming where they are.

01:32:50.000 So when Trump won the first time, we had maybe a dozen Democrats stand in the well of the House of Representatives and object to the certifying of the duly elected president of the United States.

01:33:02.000 An insurrection.

01:33:03.000 An insurrection, if you will.

01:33:05.000 People like Maxine Waterstein, Sheila Jackson Lee, all these other Democrat lawmakers. 0.68

01:33:10.000 Do you think that anybody has the balls to stand up in the well of the House and do that again and contest the election? 0.73

01:33:17.000 One thousand percent. 0.91

01:33:20.000 And who do you think it's going to be?

01:33:22.000 Raskin?

01:33:23.000 Nancy Pelosi?

01:33:24.000 Raskin?

01:33:24.000 Of course.

01:33:25.000 I hope there's a betting line put out about this.

01:33:28.000 And let's make a parley of which ones do and which ones don't.

01:33:31.000 I will bet on that in two seconds.

01:33:33.000 I got insider knowledge.

01:33:34.000 That'd be great.

01:33:34.000 $10 bet.

01:33:35.000 If you get them all right, it makes a million bucks.

01:33:37.000 It goes back to the White House press briefing thing that the Democrat freshman lawmakers that stand up and do that will then get a moment of virality.

01:33:46.000 And they'll start off their little firebrand thing with a punch. 0.98

01:33:51.000 So...

01:33:51.000 I mean, what happened to the last group of people that did that, you know?

01:33:56.000 Yeah.

01:33:57.000 They're still currently in prison awaiting, some of them awaiting sentence.

01:34:02.000 So, I mean, if they do, I think that there should be, you know, equal and fair treatment if they do.

01:34:09.000 Well, after Trump is sworn in, there's going to be a lot of space in the D.C. Joe.

01:34:14.000 I hope so.

01:34:15.000 There's going to be a lot of equal and fair treatment when Donald Trump is...

01:34:18.000 That's exactly right.

01:34:18.000 Equal and fair treatment.

01:34:19.000 Absolutely.

01:34:19.000 That's all we're asking for.

01:34:20.000 It'll be the most equal and most fair criminal prosecutions of corrupt government officials we've ever seen.

01:34:25.000 The equalist and fairest.

01:34:26.000 That's right.

01:34:27.000 The equalist and fairest.

01:34:28.000 All right, everybody.

01:34:29.000 We're going to go to Super Chat.

01:34:30.000 So smash that like button. 0.97

01:34:31.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

01:34:33.000 But before we do...

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01:34:53.000 It's really, really epic.

01:34:54.000 There should be a trailer of some sort, but it's just gone up today.

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01:35:22.000 This is a skateboarder.

01:35:22.000 He did nothing political.

01:35:23.000 He just hung out.

01:35:24.000 And so he told me he wanted to look like an American revolutionary, you know, continental army soldier or whatever.

01:35:30.000 And I was like, Richie, that's a very bold statement to put on your skateboard.

01:35:33.000 And so he did.

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01:35:43.000 Before we go to Super Chat, can we talk about the skateboarding thing?

01:35:46.000 Can I talk about what's outside the studio?

01:35:47.000 It's a skate park.

01:35:48.000 Okay, so he's got a skate park out here, and I'm in a wheelchair, and I'm just saying, we're gonna have some frickin' fun right after this.

01:35:54.000 Have you ever seen that, there's like a pro dude.

01:35:56.000 Oh, I know. 0.97

01:35:57.000 Oh, he's a monster. 0.72

01:35:58.000 Yeah, he's on Nitro Circus. 0.66

01:35:59.000 He did a backflip, I don't know.

01:36:01.000 Oh, he's really good.

01:36:01.000 I'm not gonna pull off a backflip, but I'll do something cool.

01:36:03.000 I gotta say, I was already trying it out earlier.

01:36:06.000 He already was.

01:36:07.000 I don't know the first thing about skateboarding, but I met Richie Jackson here at TimCast.

01:36:10.000 He's one of the most swaggy dudes I know.

01:36:12.000 He showed me part of the trailer of some of the tricks he was doing.

01:36:15.000 They were absolutely phenomenal, and it would be worth your guys' time to check this guy out.

01:36:18.000 Yeah, that is a phenomenal skateboard.

01:36:20.000 This guy is an amazing skater.

01:36:22.000 I don't know anything about skating, but the tricks this guy was doing was outrageous.

01:36:26.000 He had a painting.

01:36:28.000 I'm sorry, guys.

01:36:29.000 He actually told me he commissioned a painter to paint him as an American revolutionary soldier.

01:36:35.000 It looks like he should be doing a kickflip off the back of the Black Pearl. 0.95

01:36:39.000 That's exactly what I see.

01:36:40.000 There he is.

01:36:41.000 Alright, we're going to go to Super Chat, so smash that like button.

01:36:44.000 Here we go.

01:36:44.000 We got Jason Dixon, Tim, 53 months of membership, and you won't even read this.

01:36:50.000 Uh-oh, I read it.

01:36:51.000 What does that mean?

01:36:52.000 Restart that countdown.

01:36:54.000 Yeah, restart the countdown.

01:36:55.000 Alright, Elf Tree Hugs, I got it.

01:36:57.000 How about only people that have or adopt two children get Social Security?

01:37:02.000 I'm, personally, I'm totally fine with a, you can only vote if you have at least two kids.

01:37:07.000 Oh, I'm completely fine with that.

01:37:08.000 This is where I'm more libertarian.

01:37:10.000 The one thing I'm more libertarian on, I don't care about paying for your kids.

01:37:12.000 I don't like the nanny state.

01:37:14.000 We don't need social security to be a thing at all, so.

01:37:17.000 That's the right word, Guy.

01:37:18.000 I will say.

01:37:19.000 No, go ahead.

01:37:21.000 Do any of you think that by the time you're old enough to draw Social Security, it will exist?

01:37:26.000 No.

01:37:27.000 Not in its current state. 1.00

01:37:28.000 It will exist like it's dumb. 0.97

01:37:29.000 I view it as a tax that I will never see again. 0.97

01:37:33.000 I don't count on it.

01:37:36.000 Somebody I heard say the other day, the American people have a spiritual gift of just ignoring the consequences if it's screaming them in the face.

01:37:45.000 They'll push it further and further down the line.

01:37:46.000 I will make this point.

01:37:48.000 My point about why I think Social Security should be abolished is that it effectively replaced the family with the state for care of the elderly to a certain extent.

01:37:55.000 Sam Seder made an interesting point, and I disagree with it, as I just mentioned, but he does make this point that it's not just about...

01:38:03.000 A system of social security.

01:38:05.000 It's the government paying people to help them.

01:38:07.000 It's a driver of the economy.

01:38:09.000 When these people get a check for 800 bucks and they go spend that, a young person does the work and gets a portion of that as pay.

01:38:14.000 And that was a strong portion of his argument for it was it actually expands the economy by making sure that all of these people have money to spend in the system.

01:38:26.000 My response to that is children should be paying for their parents. 0.99

01:38:31.000 They should.

01:38:31.000 So when you are old and retired, I don't like old folks' homes.

01:38:34.000 I don't think we should be doing that.

01:38:35.000 We should be living with our parents if we have to.

01:38:38.000 Families should stick together the way they used to.

01:38:40.000 It is a product of the last century where we basically segmented the population and our families.

01:38:45.000 So now it's, you're 18, get out of my house. 1.00

01:38:48.000 You look at every other part of the world.

01:38:49.000 They all live together.

01:38:50.000 My number one belief of a way to fix our culture is three-generation households. 1.00

01:38:55.000 I genuinely think that's great because you have the wisdom of the elderly then seeping down into the children.

01:39:01.000 You see the work ethic of your parents taking care of their parents.

01:39:04.000 It's very understood that you're going to take care of your parents.

01:39:06.000 And I think that's exactly how it should be.

01:39:08.000 I mean, I think it would be a beautiful thing.

01:39:10.000 Another thing, just going back to talking about children, I genuinely think this is a real thing. 0.59

01:39:15.000 One, I think we should remove the federal income tax because it's ridiculous.

01:39:18.000 Hear, hear.

01:39:18.000 But if it's not going to be removed, I think that if you have or adopt four or more children, you should be in perpetuity, no longer paying federal income taxes.

01:39:27.000 We've said on the show three before.

01:39:29.000 I want four.

01:39:31.000 Let's do three and a half. 0.55

01:39:32.000 I'm here for procreation.

01:39:34.000 Let's go.

01:39:35.000 Well, I mean, you've got this argument from Democrats about how we need these migrant workers because we don't have enough.

01:39:40.000 And it's like, yeah, because we're having kids.

01:39:42.000 So I agree.

01:39:43.000 If you have, say, three or four.

01:39:45.000 Three or four.

01:39:45.000 Whatever.

01:39:46.000 Three or four.

01:39:46.000 No more taxes.

01:39:47.000 Yep.

01:39:48.000 I think that's the—and also imagine what a boon that would be for the economy.

01:39:52.000 Wait, wait.

01:39:52.000 And you've got to be married.

01:39:53.000 Oh, you have to be married.

01:39:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:54.000 No, it has to be a solid household.

01:39:56.000 I mean, like, there has to be a mother and a father in the household.

01:39:58.000 And if you get divorced.

01:40:00.000 Unless someone dies.

01:40:00.000 Like a widow.

01:40:02.000 Widowed.

01:40:02.000 Right.

01:40:02.000 Yeah.

01:40:03.000 What's the term where it's like, is the population rate, there's a specific term for it?

01:40:07.000 Replacement?

01:40:08.000 Replacement.

01:40:08.000 Replacement rate.

01:40:10.000 I think Votie Bauckham said that no society in history that has had a declining rate has been able to survive and recover.

01:40:20.000 And people are freaking out about it in other countries right now, and I believe the United States has just recently started hitting below that rate as well.

01:40:28.000 Only because of immigration as well.

01:40:30.000 We don't have a replacement rate of Americans. 0.88

01:40:34.000 I think like 0.7 of it is immigration.

01:40:37.000 We have legally 10 million people coming in a year.

01:40:40.000 But one thing that I do want to bring up in regards to that...

01:40:44.000 And I have a lot of Muslim friends.

01:40:45.000 I spend a lot of time in the UAE. I have a lot of respect for Islam.

01:40:48.000 I really do.

01:40:49.000 But I will tell you, there is a current aggressive attack of, and I would call it a Muslim caliphate, of some radicals who are now going into places like France, Germany, and England. 0.85

01:41:00.000 And their birthrate is their weapon.

01:41:02.000 And they're having six and seven children.

01:41:04.000 What was the number one name in one of these?

01:41:07.000 It was Derry, I believe, in Ireland.

01:41:09.000 Yeah.

01:41:09.000 I thought it was Muhammad.

01:41:11.000 No, no, no.

01:41:11.000 Derry, Ireland.

01:41:12.000 Yes, Derry, Ireland is where I'm talking about.

01:41:13.000 Yeah.

01:41:13.000 And the number one name was Muhammad and people in Ireland couldn't believe it.

01:41:17.000 That's scary, guys.

01:41:18.000 That's scary.

01:41:19.000 Let's jump to the Super Chat.

01:41:19.000 We got Jason Dixon.

01:41:20.000 He says, Tim, if you consider taking on new talent and bringing people in under your umbrella, let them create their own space and use them as special guests.

01:41:26.000 And I don't mean to have them contact Ian, a real contract to you for this.

01:41:31.000 Not possible.

01:41:33.000 In today's day and age, it's not really something you can do because anybody who has the capability to do it just does it anyway.

01:41:38.000 And so we've had conversations with a bunch of different individuals who produce content, and the response is always the same.

01:41:44.000 But I already have a channel, and I can just make money for myself.

01:41:48.000 And our response is, right, we would work a deal, we would use our expertise, we'd help run it, grow it, we'd make it bigger.

01:41:53.000 I say, don't know, don't care.

01:41:55.000 Most people are like, as long as I'm making a living, I'll figure it out on my own, and they just don't want to do it.

01:42:00.000 That's what it is.

01:42:01.000 All right, here we go.

01:42:02.000 The Emperor's Champion says, as an honorary PhD in trucking, I condemn the blatant cover-up of corruption and declare shenanigans on the deep state.

01:42:12.000 As I stated earlier, if you're a member of TimCast, I hereby verbally decree you have a degree.

01:42:20.000 There we go.

01:42:20.000 I got it out.

01:42:22.000 So if you sign up at TimCast.com for $10 a month, I hereby decree that you have a bachelor's degree.

01:42:32.000 Whatever you want.

01:42:33.000 Underwater basketball.

01:42:34.000 You pick.

01:42:35.000 And if you are a $25 member, not only do you get to join the Silver Lounge in the Discord server, but you get a honorary master's degree, courtesy of TimCast, verbal only.

01:42:47.000 And if you give any more than that, which you can't because you can customize your amount, you get a Ph.D., From Timcast Media, verbally.

01:42:54.000 And that means some of you may be doctors, those who are in the elite club.

01:42:58.000 And the reason I made this point is there's that woman who got, she made the thesis, fictional smells are racist. 0.96

01:43:04.000 Did you see the story?

01:43:06.000 What?

01:43:07.000 A woman in the UK wrote a thesis saying the description of negative smells in literature is racist, sexist, classist, and speciesist, and it's oppressive.

01:43:15.000 She got her PhD, and now her name on X is Dr. whatever her name is.

01:43:23.000 I mean, that is embarrassing.

01:43:25.000 Some people will go to not take a shower.

01:43:28.000 And I say now to all of you...

01:43:31.000 To all of you who are members at TimCast, you know what?

01:43:34.000 I'm changing it.

01:43:35.000 If you are a $25 member or more, you have an honorary TimCast PhD, and I hereby declare you are entitled to call yourself doctor.

01:43:45.000 Because if Cambridge is going to call her doctor for that, then I think you should be allowed to call yourself doctor for this.

01:43:52.000 We're currently at 9.43pm.

01:43:54.000 I really miss who I was at 9.42pm.

01:43:59.000 Alright, let's go.

01:44:01.000 Look at me says, someone please tell Tim that Mika is pronounced Mika and not Mika?

01:44:07.000 Mika.

01:44:08.000 He's been making this mistake for weeks.

01:44:10.000 It's because I can call her whatever I want.

01:44:14.000 People are going to be like, don't say Kamala.

01:44:18.000 Who cares?

01:44:19.000 I'm sorry, who cares?

01:44:22.000 The country's on fire.

01:44:23.000 Alright.

01:44:25.000 GoldenFleeceGame says, when are we getting Phil Labate pillows?

01:44:29.000 Oh, God.

01:44:30.000 I don't know that you guys really want that.

01:44:31.000 Come on.

01:44:32.000 Let's see.

01:44:33.000 We're all friends here.

01:44:34.000 Come on.

01:44:36.000 TonluckAlphadog says, Tim, it's snowboard season.

01:44:38.000 You know, I started snowboarding because I skateboard, but they're not the same thing.

01:44:43.000 So the assumption was like, I should get a snowboard because I know how to skateboard.

01:44:45.000 And I prefer skiing.

01:44:48.000 I prefer skiing significantly.

01:44:49.000 Yeah, skiing is more fun.

01:44:51.000 Yeah.

01:44:52.000 Okay, not anymore, Luke.

01:44:53.000 I don't prefer skiing anymore, okay?

01:44:55.000 Let's just...

01:44:55.000 I wasn't in a wheelchair always.

01:44:58.000 You know, it's ice cold.

01:44:59.000 I just hate when guys with small arms try and make fun of me.

01:45:03.000 I carried you up here.

01:45:06.000 We're on a second story with stairs.

01:45:08.000 I carried your career for years.

01:45:09.000 I said I carried that congressional office on my back for two years.

01:45:12.000 It's fitting that I carry you into the podcast studio tonight.

01:45:16.000 I just want to make a public apology for what I made you endure in those years.

01:45:22.000 Alright, Jason Dixon once again says, Hey Tim, why hasn't anyone discussed the North Carolina hurricane victims?

01:45:27.000 They are turning the rubble into mulch.

01:45:29.000 Human body parts in this mulch.

01:45:31.000 We did.

01:45:32.000 It came up on the show.

01:45:33.000 And how these, the locals, what did you call them?

01:45:35.000 The hillbillies?

01:45:35.000 The wise hillbillies.

01:45:36.000 I said the wise hillbillies.

01:45:38.000 That's Hill William to use the word.

01:45:40.000 Yeah, and no, I'm glad that you brought this up.

01:45:42.000 This is a tragedy that's happened.

01:45:43.000 I mean, it's a storm unlike anything I've ever seen.

01:45:46.000 You know, we can go into why the storm was...

01:45:51.000 Madison used to represent this area.

01:45:53.000 That's crucial.

01:45:54.000 Yes, yes.

01:45:55.000 I used to represent this area.

01:45:57.000 The FEMA response was terrible.

01:45:58.000 The response from the federal office there was absolutely abysmal.

01:46:02.000 I don't want to go into all the details.

01:46:03.000 Do you feel that those who are representing the district now in your state have done a bad job?

01:46:07.000 They've done a terrible job.

01:46:08.000 I didn't even have to finish.

01:46:09.000 It's been absolutely awful.

01:46:10.000 You can take full command of FEMA as the representative.

01:46:14.000 You just have to send a letter to the governor.

01:46:15.000 They'll do an emergency response from the president.

01:46:18.000 I don't even want to say his name.

01:46:20.000 It's an establishment plant.

01:46:21.000 But when you start looking at it, I mean, now FEMA is paying, I think I've heard from a couple guys, their dump trucks were being paid $6,000 a week per dump truck per driver.

01:46:32.000 And many of them had been sitting in the parking lot for two weeks and had not been sent out a single time.

01:46:38.000 And there were over 100 of them.

01:46:39.000 That means $600,000 a week was being spent for these people to just sit there.

01:46:44.000 That is your tax dollars and nothing was being done with them.

01:46:47.000 So if you are the federal representative there, you should be cracking down.

01:46:50.000 This should be the number one topic of conversation in the United States, the terrible just miscarriage of treatment of the people of Western North Carolina, who are phenomenal people, but they are so effing resilient.

01:47:01.000 These guys were able to just take care of each other, take care of one another.

01:47:04.000 And this is one of the reasons where I'm saying it made me...

01:47:08.000 Pretty daggum libertarian.

01:47:10.000 I went up there with three trailer loads worth of goods.

01:47:13.000 We had a lot of people coming into the area.

01:47:15.000 So many people were just helping out their neighbors, and that is what makes America so great.

01:47:19.000 It goes back to the point we were talking about earlier.

01:47:21.000 A society that polices itself requires significantly less government.

01:47:24.000 Also, a society who is willing to help out their neighbors requires significantly less government.

01:47:28.000 And that is why all of you should be very well-versed in how to live.

01:47:32.000 You can have 1,000 people with PhDs, although I love the people who now have PhDs from Timcast.

01:47:37.000 Phenomenal.

01:47:37.000 So you should subscribe at $25 to get that.

01:47:42.000 But I am telling you, verbally decreed.

01:47:46.000 But then when you start looking into what's going on with this area...

01:47:52.000 Having one redneck friend was worth having 1,000 friends with PhDs. 0.92

01:47:57.000 I mean, it is just so ridiculous. 0.84

01:47:58.000 That's true normally. 0.88

01:47:59.000 It's true normally because, I mean, people often mistake education for intellect.

01:48:04.000 It is not the exact same.

01:48:05.000 So this was interesting that I went down the week after the hurricane to Asheville, North Carolina, and at the Harley Davidson dealership there, they had tourist helicopters flying in and out, dropping supplies off to the people in the mountains.

01:48:20.000 There were just a bunch of redneck veterans who were like – also the people – the men in Washington, D.C. versus the men in North Carolina was just staggering to me, the ones that took charge. 0.65

01:48:32.000 There were National Guard representatives that were reporting to the civilian teams that were on the ground there, and they're coordinating flying helicopters in and out, dropping, not waiting for FEMA to show up.

01:48:44.000 They said, we had one FEMA truck come in the last few hours, and it pulled around the corner in the parking lot of a grocery store and set up with two people and a clipboard for people to write down their email address and get information.

01:48:55.000 That was the only federal response they had had up until that point.

01:48:58.000 Everything else was the churches.

01:49:02.000 And do not forget that FEMA was sent instructions, which there's been a congressional hearing on this, to not go to homes that were actively supporting President Donald Trump.

01:49:14.000 It's insanity.

01:49:15.000 And if you say there's not a weaponization of government, this is literally weaponizing aid against Trump supporters.

01:49:21.000 That's been the case.

01:49:22.000 The weaponization of government has been the case since 2012 or whatever with the IRS and Lois Lerner and the IRS attacking conservatives, whatever they were doing, whether it be – I guess it was audits.

01:49:38.000 The Obama IRS was unfairly auditing conservative organizations.

01:49:42.000 And so that was a reality back then.

01:49:44.000 And that's 12 years ago now.

01:49:47.000 And nothing has changed.

01:49:49.000 Nothing has gotten better.

01:49:50.000 There hasn't been a significant change in the attitude of the government.

01:49:53.000 And again, I'll reiterate...

01:49:55.000 In the past election, 95% or 96% of DC voted for Kamala Harris.

01:50:02.000 At this point, with that kind of unified opinion, you know the 4% of people that voted for Donald Trump were very quiet about it.

01:50:11.000 And the people that voted for Kamala Harris, they unquestionably look at people that are Trump supporters or conservatives.

01:50:20.000 They look at them as bad people, and they think when they act that way, when they punish them, they are actually doing something that is good.

01:50:29.000 Let's grab the super chat from Just Leave Me Alone.

01:50:32.000 Hey, Madison, you don't happen to live in Florida's first congressional district, do you?

01:50:35.000 I hear they need a congressman.

01:50:37.000 Oh, that's a wonderful question.

01:50:38.000 Crossed my mind.

01:50:39.000 Yeah, I'll tell you.

01:50:40.000 That's the number one.

01:50:41.000 I think there's more active duty military in the first congressional district than ever.

01:50:45.000 But I will tell you.

01:50:47.000 Matt Gaetz leaves some pretty big shoes, but it's not where I live.

01:50:50.000 I genuinely believe that federal representatives should live in their district.

01:50:53.000 It's not a federal requirement.

01:50:54.000 You just have to live in the state.

01:50:55.000 But I live in southwest Florida.

01:50:57.000 Byron Donalds is my congressman.

01:50:59.000 Oh, wow.

01:51:00.000 Byron's great.

01:51:00.000 Oh, Byron's phenomenal.

01:51:02.000 Byron's phenomenal.

01:51:03.000 He's one of the best.

01:51:05.000 He's the best congressman in the United States of America.

01:51:10.000 I think he's going to be running for governor, and I will be voting for him for governor.

01:51:13.000 He'll do a great job.

01:51:14.000 Did DeSantis pick who he was going to appoint for that seat?

01:51:16.000 I think for the Senate seat.

01:51:17.000 He hasn't picked it yet.

01:51:19.000 He hasn't picked it yet.

01:51:20.000 Dude, if we had 20 minutes to peel back the layers of the onion on the Florida politics behind the scenes situation.

01:51:26.000 It is so spicy and fun right now.

01:51:28.000 I wish we could...

01:51:28.000 Florida Republicans run the Republican Party.

01:51:31.000 I feel like half the cabinet is from Florida.

01:51:33.000 It's like knives out right now.

01:51:35.000 Everybody's trying to get that seat.

01:51:36.000 Well, I will tell you, going to what you just said, it's the west coast of Florida.

01:51:40.000 I mean, you look at the west coast of Florida, you have Byron Donalds, you have Anna Paulina Luna, you have Matt Gaetz, you have Greg Stubbe.

01:51:46.000 It is the most hardcore Republican area you can find in the country.

01:51:50.000 But yeah, there's...

01:51:50.000 But then Susan Wiles, Marco Rubio, all these Florida guys.

01:51:54.000 I'll tell you, it's not necessary.

01:51:56.000 30 seconds.

01:51:57.000 Go ahead.

01:51:58.000 No, no.

01:51:58.000 Go ahead, because that's what I'm about to answer.

01:52:00.000 To boil it down to 30 seconds is that in 2018, I worked for Governor DeSantis on his gubernatorial campaign.

01:52:05.000 That's where I met Susie Wiles. 0.99

01:52:07.000 She won that election for Ron DeSantis.

01:52:10.000 Because of political reasons, Ron DeSantis pushed Susie out unfairly and then went and got her fired from the Trump campaign. 0.97

01:52:17.000 Wow.

01:52:17.000 In 2020 in Florida and then got her fired from her lobbying firm in Washington, D.C. and single-handedly made sure she was unemployed.

01:52:24.000 Donald Trump picked her back up a few months later.

01:52:27.000 She solidified an operation around him during Save America days in 2021. Ron DeSantis was furious that Susie had been brought into Trump's orbit. 0.98

01:52:35.000 Susie built up that operation and obliterated Ron DeSantis in his presidential primary election. 0.99

01:52:40.000 And then she knows that state so well that she has stacked the administration with these officials that she knows they're going to do a good job.

01:52:47.000 So all behind the scenes, if you know that, like, the reason Ron DeSantis will never appoint Matt Gaetz is that Matt Gaetz was somebody who went really hard against DeSantis in order to make sure that Trump was there, but also Casey hates Trump.

01:52:59.000 Matt Gaetz, Ron's wife, hates Matt Gaetz.

01:53:02.000 And the inward dynamics now give Ron DeSantis this little leg up, I guess, for him to try and appoint somebody to the Senate seat.

01:53:10.000 And I think it's going to be an insider like his chief of staff, as opposed to somebody that the Trump orbit might want, because it's that last little on the back of his head.

01:53:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:18.000 Yeah.

01:53:19.000 Thanks for the little inside baseball.

01:53:20.000 Florida politics.

01:53:21.000 I will just say, it was a minute and 12 seconds. 0.99

01:53:23.000 Sorry, Luke is a liar. 0.98

01:53:24.000 He's got small arms. 0.97

01:53:29.000 Just a huge shout out to Susie Wiles.

01:53:31.000 She set up an amazing election integrity team.

01:53:33.000 The fact that not a single state was one for Kamala where we have to show voter ID... I think that's the greatest thing in the world.

01:53:42.000 And if that does not make everyone want to go absolutely rabid to declare voter ID has to be done.

01:53:46.000 The fact that you are voting for your county commissioner on the exact same ballot you're voting for your president on, they are drastically different things.

01:53:55.000 There needs to be a level.

01:53:56.000 I mean, you can do it with blockchain.

01:53:57.000 You can do a lot of things.

01:53:59.000 One reason I love the CYTO company because they're trying to do that.

01:54:02.000 But there are so many options where I think it should be as well-documented as how a $100 bill looks.

01:54:08.000 It should be impossible to cheat on our elections.

01:54:11.000 It should be literally impossible.

01:54:12.000 Yeah.

01:54:13.000 All right.

01:54:13.000 Let's grab this from the Y-Wing.

01:54:14.000 It says, hey, Madison, as a North Carolina native, are you worried that our mostly Democrat swing state in the state government will be combative to the incoming Trump administration?

01:54:22.000 Do you think that Robinson scandal ruined things for us?

01:54:25.000 I don't think Robinson's scandal ruined things for us.

01:54:29.000 This is one thing I do want to say in regards to that.

01:54:32.000 I care very little for what you do in your personal life when I'm electing you to office.

01:54:36.000 I legitimately do.

01:54:38.000 I know a lot of people might disagree with this, but as long as you vote correctly, what you do in your personal life or what you've done 10, 15 years ago means very little to me.

01:54:45.000 I like Mark Robinson a lot.

01:54:47.000 He's a great guy.

01:54:47.000 He's one of the greatest orators I've ever heard.

01:54:49.000 But I will say, whatever you do in your personal life, I think that it should play into factor into things.

01:54:54.000 But legitimately, I'm hiring you to do a job, and if you're going to go in and be a bulldog and be an assassin and take care of business, I don't really care what you do in your private life.

01:55:03.000 That's one thing I believe.

01:55:04.000 But no, we do have a majority in the state house and state senate.

01:55:08.000 That's one thing I really like.

01:55:09.000 There's a lot of questions of why we can never win the governor's mansion in that state.

01:55:14.000 I think we could talk about this for a long time.

01:55:17.000 I think you and I know which county we need to talk about.

01:55:19.000 It's a very, very weird state.

01:55:20.000 I love it.

01:55:21.000 It's my home.

01:55:21.000 But we elect Donald Trump.

01:55:23.000 We elect a Democrat governor.

01:55:24.000 We elect a Democrat lieutenant governor.

01:55:26.000 We elect a Republican secretary of agriculture or whatever.

01:55:30.000 I mean, it's just all over the place.

01:55:33.000 And I would yell at Republicans for not voting down ballot.

01:55:37.000 Yeah, and I will tell you, I think Luke Ball would make a phenomenal governor of North Carolina.

01:55:41.000 I mean, but I do want to say the state's so weird.

01:55:43.000 I mean, there's a lot of part of it that's very, very red.

01:55:46.000 They legitimately changed the state constitution.

01:55:48.000 They changed the state constitution so that they could redraw my congressional district because that's just how wanky the entire thing is.

01:55:55.000 It's a unique state.

01:55:57.000 Wow.

01:55:59.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:56:02.000 Let's see what we got.

01:56:03.000 Let's get a spicy one.

01:56:05.000 Well, we'll see.

01:56:05.000 We got Keith's mind and bodybuilding says, Oh, very cool.

01:56:27.000 Oh, there you go.

01:56:27.000 Mind and bodybuilding.

01:56:29.000 I dig that. 0.98

01:56:29.000 Bring all those morbidly obese Magic the Hathering players in and get them ripped! 0.98

01:56:35.000 Mind and body.

01:56:36.000 So frustrating in high school doing discrete math when I knew I was never going to implement that in my whole life.

01:56:43.000 All right.

01:56:44.000 I'd much rather be doing politics.

01:56:45.000 Dex Vet says, I think by some of your naive standards, most of Trump's cabinet is our neocons.

01:57:01.000 So if you run down the list, I think that's the conclusion you'd come to.

01:57:05.000 I had to read it because you're a self-professed Bolton bro.

01:57:08.000 Sure.

01:57:09.000 I think Bolton's been sliding a little bit.

01:57:11.000 I might have to change it up a little bit.

01:57:14.000 We need to have it.

01:57:15.000 That's why he has the mustache.

01:57:16.000 I might officially start coming out for Nikki Haley.

01:57:18.000 Nikki Haley might be starting to be my girl.

01:57:20.000 The neocons are an essential part of the Republican Party.

01:57:24.000 Cawthorn, you were talking all episode about how it needs to be a big tenet.

01:57:27.000 We need to bring everybody in.

01:57:29.000 I do not want American sons and daughters to die on some godforsaken soil for a country that does not matter to us. 0.99

01:57:34.000 I want our military to be so aggressive.

01:57:36.000 I want us to have a Death Star to where the point...

01:57:39.000 I mean, I support the military death star complex until we build a Death Star.

01:57:42.000 And then if you want to mess with us, cool.

01:57:44.000 We'll do a single reactor fire like we did, and it'll be taken care of.

01:57:48.000 What was it?

01:57:48.000 Was it Coruscant?

01:57:50.000 No, no, it wasn't Coruscant.

01:57:51.000 The single reactor fire, that was from Rogue One.

01:57:54.000 Oh, the single reactor fire.

01:57:57.000 I just want to push back a little bit.

01:57:59.000 I actually think the neocons are the people who keep us safe and help keep our enemies fearful of attacks.

01:58:04.000 Trump often cited John Bolton as the guy for the madman factor in his old cabinet, so I think he's utilizing some of the same, different people, but similar ideologies in Let me make my points very nuanced on how I feel about war.

01:58:20.000 I want us not to have a secretary of defense.

01:58:23.000 I want us to have a secretary of offense. 0.88

01:58:25.000 I want us to be such an aggressive...

01:58:26.000 That's a secretary of war.

01:58:27.000 Yeah, a secretary of war.

01:58:28.000 I want us to be so aggressive that make it a...

01:58:31.000 If you kill an American citizen in another country, you should be able to go to another country as an American citizen. 0.93

01:58:36.000 If you pull out a blue passport with a freaking eagle on it, the entire country will be like, I'm so sorry. 0.99

01:58:40.000 Make it like you're a Roman citizen. 0.95

01:58:41.000 I didn't realize you did this. 0.98

01:58:43.000 And it's like, oh, if an American citizen or an American girl gets assaulted in another country, if one of our people get mugged, we are sending murder teams to your country and you will die. 0.80

01:58:53.000 We will take care of business.

01:58:56.000 There are a lot of things that I believe.

01:58:57.000 I think we should be overtly, incredibly aggressive.

01:59:00.000 But I think that we should have the most state-of-the-art weaponry.

01:59:03.000 I think that we should fund the military-industrial complex to a great point.

01:59:05.000 But we should be so aggressive that the fact we never need to use it, the fact – this is what I don't like about warmongers is they look at this and they say, oh, well, we need to foster wars in other places so that – Lockheed Martin can sell more missiles so that Boeing can make more attack helicopters for us, these kind of things.

01:59:22.000 That's not what I want.

01:59:23.000 I want us to have the most powerful military, the most well-trained military, the most aggressive military, but I do not ever want us to waste a dollar overseas.

01:59:30.000 I never want our sons and daughters to die for things that are not for Americans. 0.71

01:59:34.000 America should be for Americans, and I think that the Americans should be for the Americas as a whole.

01:59:39.000 This is actually a unique point that I have.

01:59:41.000 Why are we trading and having all of our offshore production being done?

01:59:46.000 With countries that hate us, when South America is an outrageously predominantly Christian continent, most of them are Catholics. 1.00

01:59:52.000 And we can talk about Catholicism if you want, but they are outspoken Christians, the born-again believers.

01:59:57.000 And these are people that I think if we have to have something and we can't bring it back on shore, send it down to the Americas. 0.93

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02:00:04.000 Let the rest of the world starve and see what life is like without Americans. 1.00

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