Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Biden vs. Trump Debate IS ON, Biden DEMANDS PROTECTIONS From CNN w-Matt Walsh | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 The debates are on!

00:00:16.000 Joe Biden formally challenges Donald Trump in a 14 second long video that required five jump cuts, but he managed to get the words out.

00:00:23.000 And Donald Trump, of course, immediately agreed.

00:00:25.000 And then Joe Biden immediately issued a letter saying, OK, I'll debate you, but I have a bunch of caveats, no audience.

00:00:30.000 We've got to cut your mic when your time is up.

00:00:33.000 And we're not going to go at the we're only going to do two debates, not three.

00:00:36.000 Trump is now saying he wants four debates plus a vice presidential debate.

00:00:40.000 But man, could you imagine?

00:00:41.000 I don't know.

00:00:43.000 It doesn't even matter who Trump picks.

00:00:45.000 Anyone debating Kamala Harris is going to be like watching Mike Tyson box a toddler.

00:00:49.000 So, that would be quite entertaining.

00:00:52.000 We'll talk about that.

00:00:53.000 Plus, we've got to talk about the Chief's kicker.

00:00:56.000 I believe it was a kicker, right?

00:00:57.000 Commencement speech.

00:00:58.000 He's being called anti-Semitic because he was praising his wife and talking about the anti-Semitism bill they passed.

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00:01:06.000 We've got a bunch of cultural things that I think are important we didn't get into.

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00:01:12.000 This happened about five days ago, but they're canceling their Pride Month sales.

00:01:15.000 I think that's a big victory.

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00:01:53.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Matt Walsh.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, great to be here.

00:01:58.000 It's been a while since, it's like a year and a half, I think, since the last time I was on the show.

00:02:02.000 You made it.

00:02:03.000 We're glad to have you.

00:02:04.000 I think everybody knows who you are, but do you want to do a quick introduction anyway?

00:02:07.000 Yeah, I'm Matt Walsh.

00:02:09.000 I host a podcast over at The Daily Wire.

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00:02:17.000 Yeah, I do have a new show called Judged, which is on Daily Wire as well.

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00:03:11.000 That sounds amazing.

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00:03:35.000 Hi, Serge!

00:03:35.000 Hello, Hannah-Claire.

00:03:36.000 Hey, guys.

00:03:37.000 Let's get to it, Tim.

00:03:38.000 Here's the big news.

00:03:40.000 So we've got not only the debates are confirmed, there's so much nuance in this debate story.

00:03:45.000 So Joe Biden comes out this morning saying, I'll debate you, Donald Trump.

00:03:48.000 It was a 14-second long video.

00:03:50.000 It had five jump cuts.

00:03:52.000 The man could not express himself in two, like he could not just say two sentences without needing a ton of edits.

00:03:57.000 It's kind of sad.

00:03:58.000 I have no idea how this man's going to debate.

00:03:59.000 But Trump, of course, truthed out that he will be accepting.

00:04:03.000 And then we heard that there are a whole bunch of caveats.

00:04:05.000 First, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators.

00:04:09.000 It's going to take place June 27th in Atlanta, Georgia.

00:04:13.000 I imagine it'll be a lot of fun.

00:04:14.000 But here's where it gets weird.

00:04:16.000 Fox News says here are all the restrictions Biden's team demanded in their Trump debate offer.

00:04:21.000 President Biden's team does not want former President Trump to be able to interrupt the president.

00:04:25.000 Alright.

00:04:26.000 So, uh, no audience.

00:04:28.000 No RFK Jr.

00:04:29.000 or any other third-party candidates.

00:04:32.000 Limited news outlets.

00:04:33.000 Wow, this is crazy.

00:04:34.000 Candidate mics must mute after time expires.

00:04:38.000 And I think that's it for the most part.

00:04:40.000 But no audience.

00:04:41.000 That one's big.

00:04:42.000 And I think the reason for that is kind of obvious.

00:04:44.000 I think everyone would boo Biden.

00:04:46.000 I mean, is that the issue?

00:04:47.000 And Trump thrives off the audience.

00:04:49.000 I mean, he's very performative.

00:04:51.000 And so being able to read the room is when he's the best.

00:04:53.000 Remember that town hall that he did? 0.56

00:04:55.000 And he just totally made a fool of the moderator, partially because he didn't talk to her.

00:04:59.000 He talked to the audience. 0.96

00:05:00.000 Right.

00:05:01.000 It's not something that Biden can really do.

00:05:03.000 I think also having a lot of people there is distracting for Biden.

00:05:05.000 He's very, you know, he's an old, frail, feeble man. 1.00

00:05:08.000 And so I think that the more they can tone this down, the better.

00:05:11.000 I actually think that cutting the mics after time expires is the bigger Deal there.

00:05:16.000 That's that's absurd.

00:05:18.000 It's already absurd in these debates that like to even call it a debate when they when the moderator says, okay.

00:05:26.000 What's happening in the Middle East?

00:05:27.000 What's your take on that?

00:05:28.000 One minute, go! 0.94

00:05:28.000 You have 60 seconds to lay out your opinion on this. 0.94

00:05:33.000 That's already ridiculous, but if they actually cut the mic at that point, you know, and both these guys... And who's cutting it, right?

00:05:39.000 Like, is it the moderator who hits the button, or is it a sound guy in the back?

00:05:41.000 And also, neither one of these guys are known for being succinct to begin with, so they're not going to be able to get even one thought out before I mean, to be fair, Trump might get one thought out, but have 50 he wants to get in in 60 seconds.

00:05:54.000 Biden will mutter gibberish, and we won't know if they're thoughts at all, but he'll say something.

00:05:59.000 I had a professor when I went to SMU, his name's Ben Voth, and he did this study.

00:06:02.000 He would time all of the presidential debates, and his big takeaway was that Democratic candidates, they speak for longer, they're interrupted less often by the moderator, they generally have the advantage, except Republicans speak more quickly.

00:06:19.000 They say more words per minute.

00:06:21.000 And I think this is interesting because, you know, one of the things that Trump basically could do when he was debating Hillary was, like, muscle his way through and be like, I'm just going to keep talking.

00:06:30.000 Like, it is very difficult for a moderator to keep him in check.

00:06:32.000 The only way you could really keep him from getting his side comments, his you'd be in jail, is by cutting his mic.

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:38.000 I mean, I would love a debate where the only thing the moderator does is just say, well, here's the topic.

00:06:47.000 Ready, set, go.

00:06:48.000 Go.

00:06:48.000 And just have them talk about it with each other like normal people.

00:06:51.000 Well, the time limits on these debates used to be much longer, am I wrong?

00:06:55.000 In decades past, people just had longer attention spans, and they would just go for like 10 minutes on one topic, and people would really pay attention and care.

00:07:04.000 And this is just for the memes, at least for me.

00:07:07.000 Yeah, now it's like the soundbite generation, and we're getting more and more into that.

00:07:10.000 You have one minute, and then once your minute's up, they cut your mic? 0.93

00:07:13.000 I mean, I agree, that's ridiculous.

00:07:15.000 Usually what you see is that time expires, and you get a little bit of leeway to finish your thought before they say, okay, we're moving on.

00:07:22.000 But they usually just say, okay, we're moving on.

00:07:25.000 This is...

00:07:26.000 It's going to be boring.

00:07:27.000 It's also fewer than years past.

00:07:30.000 You know, typically there are three presidential debates and Biden only offered two.

00:07:34.000 I mean, this is him hoping that Trump won't be able to make it.

00:07:38.000 He is kind of admitting that he is too fatigued to get through the traditional three.

00:07:42.000 I think Trump would've been like, OK, let's do three debates if you'd given him the option.

00:07:46.000 Yeah, I think the debate so clearly favors Trump that it shows you that the Biden team is desperate and they know they're in a lot of trouble and they need to pull something out of their hat.

00:07:56.000 And the interesting question is strategically for Trump, like there's two ways you could go about this.

00:08:01.000 One is...

00:08:03.000 Okay, Trump, just go in there and be as normal as possible and just be normal and don't make the debate about you at all, because that was a mistake he made in 2020.

00:08:12.000 But there's another approach, given the fact that Biden is half dead, which is try to fluster him, actually go after him hard and try to fluster him.

00:08:22.000 Trump tried that in 2020, didn't really work.

00:08:25.000 Maybe this time around, I don't know, it might be more successful.

00:08:27.000 Do you really think it was a mistake to make it about himself instead of the ideas?

00:08:32.000 Because I think that is actually what got people to vote for him in 2016.

00:08:36.000 Well, 2016 is one thing, but 2020, I think it's generally accepted.

00:08:40.000 Generally accepted things aren't always true, but in this case, I think it is true that the debates did not serve Trump well in 2020.

00:08:48.000 Um, because he just came off a little bit to it.

00:08:51.000 The story became Oh, look, Trump is being belligerent.

00:08:55.000 But I think this was a strategy.

00:08:56.000 I think the strategy was like, let's fluster this guy.

00:08:58.000 Let's fluster Biden.

00:08:59.000 I think he should.

00:09:00.000 I think the strategy for Trump will should be to say things about Biden.

00:09:06.000 And this is probably typical debate strategy, but say things that are are Hyperbolic exaggerations of things that Biden did, forcing him to target his dignity in a way that flusters him and makes him desperate to defend himself, which would then make Biden talk more about himself instead of plans for the future.

00:09:27.000 I think one of the things that Trump was dealing with in 2020, because I agree, Matt, is that he was, the way the media was going after him, the way he had been weighted down for his entire term with Russiagate, all of his attacks on his person, false accusations, media smears and lies.

00:09:41.000 Instead of hearing about what his plans for the future were going to be, it was very personal.

00:09:46.000 If Trump can direct that energy at Biden in the same way, then people are going to be like, this guy's got no plan.

00:09:52.000 He's muttering gibberish.

00:09:54.000 If Trump can get Joe Biden in a position where he needs time to explain himself, we will get a Trinidad and Shabbat of pressure out of him.

00:10:02.000 And if Biden, Trinidad and Shabbat of pressures during the debate, he's done.

00:10:05.000 How did you, did you practice that?

00:10:07.000 I tried.

00:10:08.000 I'm impressed.

00:10:09.000 It's True Internet Shabba Da Pressure.

00:10:12.000 I listened to that thing probably a hundred times to try and translate it.

00:10:15.000 Okay, now spell it.

00:10:17.000 That's a merch idea.

00:10:18.000 I tweeted it once, but there's no way I'm spelling it.

00:10:21.000 True Internet Shabba Da Pressure.

00:10:24.000 I have no idea.

00:10:25.000 I think the interesting thing, because I don't think these debates are effective.

00:10:29.000 I don't think people really learn anything during them other than just seeing the personalities clash.

00:10:34.000 But it would be interesting for the soundbite generation to see how many times Biden can misquote his own records.

00:10:38.000 Sometimes he can say, you know, Lincoln Riley instead of Lake and Riley.

00:10:42.000 It's this sort of thesis dissertation on his four years in office.

00:10:47.000 And he is not in a strong position verbally or mentally to be able to defend himself.

00:10:53.000 And that right now, Biden only has two gears, and one of them is, of course, Right, well, right.

00:11:00.000 Mumbling incoherently is one gear.

00:11:01.000 The only gear he has where he's sort of on, and he's making sense, is what we saw in the State of the Union, which is when he's angry and he's shouting.

00:11:09.000 Like, he can still be angry and shouting, which will make the debate more interesting, because obviously they don't want the gear of him mumbling, so they're going to tell him, like, we need the shouting, angry Biden, because it's the only version of Biden that makes a little bit of sense.

00:11:23.000 That's very sad.

00:11:26.000 I was mentioning this earlier in one of my morning segments.

00:11:29.000 I just watched The Equalizer and The Equalizer 2.

00:11:31.000 You guys ever see that movie?

00:11:33.000 Denzel Washington.

00:11:34.000 And he's like a retired agent, they call him. 0.61

00:11:36.000 And he's basically just a badass who kills bad guys.

00:11:40.000 But the way he acts in the film as a badass is stone-faced.

00:11:46.000 Right?

00:11:46.000 Denzel Washington nails a performance where he's just like, he talks like this.

00:11:50.000 And you know that he's going to win and defeat the bad guys.

00:11:53.000 Joe Biden has this fake persona with a furrowed brow where he's trying to look like he's fired up, but he's really tired.

00:12:01.000 And so it looks more like confused old man yells at child on lawn.

00:12:04.000 That's what evokes this pity in me.

00:12:06.000 And I'm also disgusted at the same time.

00:12:08.000 It's confusing.

00:12:09.000 I think him like belligerently yelling though, Trump could handle that easily.

00:12:14.000 An angry Biden, if Trump can not engage in the fight, just be like, it's okay, Joe, just calm down.

00:12:20.000 You did a bad job.

00:12:22.000 It would be hilarious to watch him handle it.

00:12:24.000 Trump should demand a drug test, but only for uppers.

00:12:29.000 I don't care if you're taking anything that chills you out, but no uppers.

00:12:32.000 I think they should both just be zinned out of their minds.

00:12:36.000 The one thing I do agree with, though, is no RFK.

00:12:38.000 And I know it's going to piss off a lot of the RFK people.

00:12:41.000 I personally would like to see a third party candidate, an independent, the libertarian candidate, The thing about RFK specifically is that if you want to argue the polling threshold doesn't make sense because it creates a gate.

00:12:55.000 It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

00:12:57.000 Someone without access to the public stage is not going to get the notoriety required for a poll.

00:13:02.000 Fine.

00:13:02.000 I understand.

00:13:04.000 Maybe no polling requirement.

00:13:05.000 Maybe just be on the ballot for every state.

00:13:07.000 RFK is not on the ballot in every state.

00:13:09.000 And I think the issue is... I could be wrong.

00:13:12.000 How many states is he on?

00:13:13.000 I don't know, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have enough to even win the presidency.

00:13:17.000 Right, like so, of the states that he's on... I think it's... I know he just got texted the other day, I'll double check.

00:13:22.000 Right, it's very few, isn't it?

00:13:23.000 Mm-hmm.

00:13:23.000 So if the argument is, look, RFK Jr., we get it, you're polling at 10% in aggregate.

00:13:28.000 But even if you win this debate, you are not even on the ballot in the majority of states.

00:13:35.000 The likelihood of you winning is ridiculously low.

00:13:38.000 He's on in four states, California, Utah, Michigan, and Hawaii, and then he has five other states where he has, or six other states where he's met the thresholds for signature, but we don't know for sure if he's on the ballot.

00:13:51.000 Wow, that's newer than I thought.

00:13:52.000 Right, yeah, seriously, I thought it was going to be like 10.

00:13:54.000 Oh, and he's on in Texas too, this map isn't updated.

00:13:56.000 That's going to be like 10.

00:13:57.000 It's four?

00:13:58.000 It's five with Texas.

00:13:59.000 Yeah, it's five.

00:14:00.000 I would have been more upset about this as, you know, several months ago, but I think recently RFK, he's not going to win, as you point out.

00:14:08.000 And he's also presented, he's made it clear that he's not much of a, of an alternative anyway.

00:14:12.000 He's kind of just Democrat lights and some of the stuff he said recently about abortion and the gender stuff.

00:14:17.000 It's like, you know, it's, he's the, He's basically just Biden, you know, but he's actually able to speak.

00:14:25.000 Matt, that is unfair.

00:14:26.000 His stance on abortion is the most extreme stance I think we've seen from any candidate ever.

00:14:32.000 That's true.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 So I actually agree with you on the Biden thing.

00:14:35.000 He is basically a Democrat, but he...

00:14:38.000 That video, my jaw hit the floor.

00:14:40.000 I am not this staunch pro-life guy, but he said there should be zero regulation in any sense.

00:14:46.000 And the interviewer asked him, you're saying keep the federal government out of it, leave it to the states?

00:14:50.000 He goes, no.

00:14:51.000 The states nor the federal government, no governments can be involved at all.

00:14:54.000 It's like unrestrained, unfettered, unrestricted in every single capacity.

00:15:01.000 But Tim, you have to trust women. 1.00

00:15:03.000 That's crazy.

00:15:04.000 He did backtrack on this.

00:15:06.000 Because he said full term.

00:15:07.000 He said he was asked, OK, so abort babies full term.

00:15:10.000 And he said, yes, full term.

00:15:11.000 Yes.

00:15:11.000 Did he backtrack on that?

00:15:12.000 Yes.

00:15:13.000 And he said, never mind, not full term.

00:15:15.000 He actually let me see if I can pull up his recent tweet on the issue.

00:15:22.000 Let's do this.

00:15:24.000 I had it pulled up the other day, but we never got into it.

00:15:29.000 Actually, here we go.

00:15:30.000 Four days ago.

00:15:31.000 So, here's the story.

00:15:32.000 RFK Jr.

00:15:33.000 reverses abortion stance.

00:15:35.000 Again, after confusion, contradictions emerge within campaign.

00:15:39.000 Unsurprising.

00:15:40.000 Independent presidential candidate RFK once again reversed his stance, once again, on limits for abortion access at a social media post Friday evening, prompted by criticism from within his own campaign.

00:15:51.000 During an interview with podcaster Sage Steele, Kennedy Wednesday said he opposed any government restrictions on abortion, even if it's full term.

00:15:59.000 But after facing pressure from his campaign staff, Kennedy walked back his previous statement, taking to social media to write that abortion should be legal up to a certain number of weeks and restricted thereafter.

00:16:09.000 The Independent Longshot said he now supports abortion up until the point of fetal viability and that he had changed his mind because he was willing to listen.

00:16:18.000 I can respect to a certain degree the person who says, wow, I was really wrong about that.

00:16:24.000 I don't believe RFK right now really thinks he was wrong about it.

00:16:29.000 I don't think a sane person holds the position that a woman should be able to have a full-term abortion. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Just trust her and let it happen.

00:16:37.000 I'm like, even if we all agree the health of the mother in extreme circumstances, whatever those circumstances may be, we expect there to be some kind of oversight for these processes.

00:16:50.000 I don't agree with that, by the way.

00:16:52.000 You don't think there should be any oversight for if there's going to be a medical emergency or something?

00:16:56.000 No, I'm just saying I don't think there should be abortion at all legal under any circumstances.

00:17:01.000 We'll clarify the definition of abortion.

00:17:04.000 You mean like elective in the instance where a woman is assigned to terminate her pregnancy of will.

00:17:09.000 Right, right.

00:17:11.000 What I'm saying is, RFK's position is effectively, literally, for any reason the woman decides, we'll just trust her on it.

00:17:20.000 What I'm saying is, even in the case where a woman is dying, and they're like, ma'am, we have to terminate this pregnancy, I'm sorry, but the baby and you are both dying, and we're going to try and intervene, I believe most pro-lifers wouldn't call that an abortion.

00:17:31.000 That's medical intervention to save the life of the mother, which may result in the death of the baby, right?

00:17:35.000 Would you agree?

00:17:36.000 Yeah, if it's a scenario where, let's say, she has cancer and they say, well, we could treat the cancer.

00:17:45.000 It may result in the pregnancy ending. 0.95

00:17:49.000 You know, that's kind of the principle of double effect, and that wouldn't really be a direct abortion.

00:17:56.000 Now, if they say, If they say, well, we're going to go in and terminate the pregnancy actively, then that's an abortion.

00:18:04.000 So you just, so let's say that there's a woman with a pregnancy and I understand this is like, it's substantially more rare.

00:18:10.000 A woman is pregnant and the doctor says, if this pregnancy continues, you will die. 0.99

00:18:16.000 We can try to deliver the baby, but the baby may, the pregnancy may have to be terminated.

00:18:19.000 The baby might may die in that process.

00:18:21.000 Would you disagree with that?

00:18:23.000 I would absolutely disagree with killing the baby and then delivering the baby, especially in the circumstances you're talking about, which are extremely rare.

00:18:31.000 And a woman might be in a position where, look, this pregnancy needs to end or you're going to die. 1.00

00:18:37.000 Well, then, okay, you can end the pregnancy by delivering the child. 0.53

00:18:40.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:18:41.000 Alive, and then do everything you can to save the child.

00:18:44.000 You might not be able to, but do everything you can to save the child's life.

00:18:46.000 The abortion is the extra step of, we're going to kill the baby first, because you have to deliver the baby regardless. 1.00

00:18:51.000 It's like, are you going to deliver a living baby or a dead baby?

00:18:53.000 I completely agree.

00:18:54.000 So I guess my point was, Typically, when it comes to the issue of abortion, people say, for the life of the mother, that's the exception, right?

00:18:54.000 Right.

00:19:03.000 And I think the clarification I'm trying to make is, because I've had this debate with Seamus, abortion typically refers to terminating a pregnancy in a way that ends the life of the baby.

00:19:11.000 And the argument is, if you have to terminate a pregnancy, why not just try to save the baby?

00:19:15.000 Well, I guess my point was RFK was saying, doesn't matter.

00:19:18.000 Like a woman could literally be at nine months and be like, I want to just the baby to dead. 1.00

00:19:21.000 And then we'd say no oversight whatsoever.

00:19:24.000 And I'm saying that, like, even in the case where Democrats argue there's a medical exception for abortion that they would allow, there's still oversight for that.

00:19:31.000 So RFK's position is the most, was the most extreme.

00:19:35.000 And I don't see.

00:19:36.000 That is a legitimate political position.

00:19:38.000 I think he was just saying what he thought was the popular position and now that he had people in his own popular position on the Democrats.

00:19:46.000 I mean, it is actually the mainstream Democrat view Joe Biden would agree with.

00:19:51.000 with RFK's original position of abortion at any time for any reason, no restrictions.

00:19:57.000 They avoid stating it that explicitly.

00:19:59.000 Exactly. And I agree because we've had the progressives on the show who have just been

00:20:04.000 like, doesn't matter if she wants to do it, just do it.

00:20:06.000 I think RFK's- Like literally while the baby started-

00:20:08.000 No, you're fine.

00:20:09.000 The partial birth abortion, you know, aborting the child while the child is being delivered,

00:20:17.000 That is that is now a mainstream.

00:20:19.000 It's in the mainstream of the Democrat Party to support even that.

00:20:23.000 So he was he was he was within the mainstream.

00:20:25.000 I think RFK goes even further though because I mean, I could be wrong here, but when people were advocating for abortion to become legalized, one of the things they argued all the time was, well, we need it to be oversight because women could go to back alleys and coat hangers, and you heard all these horrible things.

00:20:38.000 So he's saying, I don't want state government, I don't want federal government, I don't want anyone regulating this position at all, which theoretically goes against his party's own claim of like, well, we need some kind of regulation so it's safe.

00:20:48.000 I don't think there should be abortions.

00:20:50.000 But he is even extreme for his own party saying that there's no regulation at all.

00:20:55.000 I guess my view is just that he's saying what we know progressives are saying, and Democrat politicians try to avoid saying because they know it's not popular to say, terminate a baby at full term.

00:21:07.000 And then he said full term as a politician.

00:21:09.000 I'd respect it more if they did just say what they think, right?

00:21:13.000 Yeah.

00:21:17.000 position that he said a few weeks ago where he said, uh, yeah, I think it's murder.

00:21:21.000 And I think that sometimes we should, you know, we have too many people on earth. 1.00

00:21:25.000 So we should just kill babies. 0.99

00:21:26.000 It's an appalling view, but it's, it is actually the honest, uh, pro abortion view. 0.99

00:21:34.000 I can respect him being honest.

00:21:35.000 So I know I can show that clip to people and being like, this is in insane position. I think RFK probably watched that clip

00:21:43.000 and was like, this is what needs to be said. His campaign then says, hey, actually, this doesn't

00:21:48.000 poll well. And he went, okay, I'll take the traditional moderate position of safe, legal,

00:21:52.000 I mean, there are pro-lifers in his campaign?

00:21:52.000 rare then.

00:21:55.000 No, no, there's, they're saying you're not polling well among moderates.

00:21:59.000 Independent voters do not support full-term abortion.

00:22:02.000 That's insane.

00:22:05.000 So going back to what you were saying, Matt, about the idea of abortion, I had this debate with Seamus probably like two years ago, Seamus Coghlan, and I was incorrect.

00:22:15.000 I said that abortion was just referring to terminating the pregnancy.

00:22:19.000 Seamus corrected me and said, no, they're talking about ending the life of the baby.

00:22:22.000 And I was trying to convey that stillbirth and things like that were abortion. I was wrong.

00:22:29.000 We pulled up the legal definition, and it is terminating a pregnancy in a way that

00:22:33.000 ends the life of the baby, not just terminating a pregnancy.

00:22:37.000 If there's still birth, the baby's already dead, and they terminate by removing the baby, that's not an abortion.

00:22:41.000 That's removing a dead baby, like the baby has died.

00:22:44.000 Like, I confronted pro-choice protesters once, and they were trying to tell me that Republicans are trying to ban women who have had miscarriages from having the fetus removed after a natural death.

00:22:56.000 Right, which is not the case.

00:22:56.000 Which is insane, and not at all the case, but that's the mainstream...

00:23:01.000 I mean, I guess the question is, can any politician actually honestly change their mind on an issue that they've come up publicly on during an election year?

00:23:09.000 And I just don't think that this is an honest conversion, right?

00:23:13.000 I think he means what he said in the first place, or at least he means it enough to think, this was popular in my social circles, and my donors cheered for me when I said this.

00:23:20.000 I don't think that he can actually say, honestly, I have talked to people, I've consulted, and I've had an honest change of heart here.

00:23:28.000 Yeah, and what could someone say to you in the span of a couple days that convinces you that, oh, actually, killing full-term babies is wrong?

00:23:34.000 I mean, I hope someone did.

00:23:35.000 I hope someone did say something.

00:23:36.000 I just don't think they did.

00:23:39.000 What facts did they need to introduce to you that you didn't already have before?

00:23:44.000 Like, what confusion?

00:23:46.000 Well, I mean, am I wrong that men are not opinionated about abortion either way?

00:23:51.000 I feel like it's mostly women in the pro-life movement. 0.81

00:23:54.000 It's mostly women in the pro-choice movement. 0.99

00:23:57.000 Men don't really think about it all that much.

00:23:59.000 I think there are a lot of men who feel really, really strongly about it.

00:24:02.000 Yeah, and I'd say it's kind of like a quadrant where three are full and one's empty.

00:24:08.000 That is, liberal guys don't really care.

00:24:11.000 But conservative guys do, conservative women do, and liberal women do. 1.00

00:24:14.000 And liberal guys are kind of like, whatever gets me laid.

00:24:17.000 Right, exactly.

00:24:18.000 I think there's a lot of men who maybe bought into the propaganda that they shouldn't have a view on it.

00:24:22.000 Or that it's none of their business.

00:24:22.000 Right.

00:24:25.000 But I think that any person, if they think about this issue, you know, can clearly see that killing babies is wrong.

00:24:32.000 I have a friend, I've told the story, I'll keep it short, a liberal normie comedian guy who doesn't pay attention to politics.

00:24:38.000 And when he was asking me about like, oh, so you're doing the show like you're conservative now, like what's going on?

00:24:43.000 And I was like, no, I'm definitely not conservative.

00:24:45.000 But I was like, look, man, when you look at what's going on, give you example, the Democrats trying to pass this, this bill that would allow full term abortion at the federal level.

00:24:54.000 He was like, no, that's not true.

00:24:55.000 And then I'm like, dude, don't even take my word for it.

00:24:57.000 I pulled up the bill and I showed him.

00:24:58.000 I said, just read it.

00:24:59.000 And I was like, section 13 specifically.

00:25:01.000 And he reads it and he's like, what is this?

00:25:03.000 And I'm like, bro, it's congress.gov.

00:25:03.000 Where'd you get this?

00:25:05.000 And he's like, this, this, this is wrong.

00:25:07.000 This can't be right.

00:25:07.000 And I'm like, my dude, I am not conservative.

00:25:09.000 I'm just reading the news.

00:25:11.000 If you disagree with this, then you need to speak up against the Democrats because it's how far they've gone.

00:25:16.000 And he was like, I got to look into this.

00:25:18.000 This, this doesn't seem right.

00:25:19.000 And I'm like, no, you're just not watching the news, bro.

00:25:19.000 Something's missing here.

00:25:22.000 This is, this is where they are at.

00:25:24.000 They're living 15 years ago.

00:25:25.000 Yeah, and this is why Colin Wright, Elon Musk, Colin Wright made that meme of the guy in the slightly left position, now he's on the right because the left has gone far left, and that's where many people are, and that's why Trump won, and that's probably why he's going to win again, and that's exactly why RFK is backtracking.

00:25:44.000 But I'll also point out, like, R.F.K.

00:25:46.000 Jr.' 's kind of backtracked on a lot of things.

00:25:48.000 I don't even know what his public positions are. 0.79

00:25:50.000 I'm not trying to be a dick, okay?

00:25:51.000 I respect the independent run.

00:25:53.000 But what are his campaign positions?

00:25:57.000 We now know that he's changed from full-time abortion to...

00:26:02.000 Limited abortion?

00:26:03.000 I don't know what else he's up to.

00:26:04.000 I know the medical freedom is a big deal.

00:26:07.000 I can respect that.

00:26:08.000 You know, don't force people to get medicated.

00:26:10.000 That's the only issue where he seems to have drawn a clear line of dilution between him and the Democrats.

00:26:15.000 And I'm no RFK Jr.

00:26:17.000 expert, but from my vantage point, it seems like on most other issues, he's basically in the Democrat realm.

00:26:25.000 He's in their vicinity anyway.

00:26:27.000 Let me pull up this, uh, this is polling from Civics.

00:26:29.000 I think this is big.

00:26:30.000 The reason why Joe Biden is likely, has likely now announced, there's two reasons why he's announced he will do the debate.

00:26:38.000 One of the, one of the most interesting ones I've heard is that he is concerned his team, his campaign, that the Democrats will try to force him out and bring in a new candidate.

00:26:48.000 Someone who can probably win.

00:26:50.000 And the reason why they're saying they want to do a debate early, earlier than normal, they're claiming, oh, it's because people need to hear the debate before early voting begins.

00:26:58.000 Others say it's to force the position so they can't change and they have to have Biden.

00:27:03.000 But I think it's this.

00:27:04.000 This is civics.

00:27:06.000 Favorable or unfavorable opinion of Joe Biden.

00:27:09.000 Of course, Democrat doesn't matter.

00:27:11.000 You click Democrat, 79% favorable.

00:27:12.000 I mean, that's kind of bad for the Democratic incumbent.

00:27:15.000 Republicans, of course, unfavorable.

00:27:18.000 Among independent voters, right now, the latest polling from Civics, 27% favorability among independent voters.

00:27:25.000 We pop over to Donald Trump.

00:27:27.000 Of course Democrats don't like Donald Trump.

00:27:30.000 Of course Republicans do like Donald Trump.

00:27:31.000 They like him a little bit more than Democrats like Biden.

00:27:33.000 Among independent voters, Donald Trump has a 38% favorability.

00:27:37.000 He's up 11 points.

00:27:39.000 Despite the fact that independents overwhelmingly don't like either of them, Trump is still up by 11 points among independents.

00:27:46.000 In various ways, I plugged that data into ChatGPT asking it, I asked GPT to analyze The 2020 voter data and then looking at how independent voters voted.

00:27:59.000 Take the favorability as of today and apply that to independent votes and what would the turnout be?

00:28:04.000 I got varying answers.

00:28:05.000 They were all in favor.

00:28:06.000 They were all Trump wins.

00:28:07.000 It was like one projected a Trump landslide due to this massive, this is a huge shift in independent voters.

00:28:14.000 I don't believe that's accurate.

00:28:15.000 Chet GPT's probably wrong.

00:28:16.000 One of them said Trump gets a narrow victory because independents have flipped.

00:28:19.000 That one seems to make the most sense.

00:28:21.000 The weirdest one was without this data.

00:28:24.000 I asked Chet GPT just like to take a look at the, I said look at 2020's data, look at the current polls, what will the result be?

00:28:30.000 It's at a tie.

00:28:31.000 269 to 269.

00:28:34.000 To be fair, some pollsters have projected that is a possibility, which would be wild, because the House would then, as Republicans, they'd pick Trump, and the Senate as Democrats would pick Harris, and you'd get a Trump-Harris administration, which I don't think it was really going to happen.

00:28:48.000 But back to the main point, the reason why Joe Biden is agreeing debate is because he's hurting where it really matters.

00:28:54.000 He's losing young voters and he's losing independent voters.

00:28:57.000 He has no choice but to force to go on the stage.

00:29:01.000 He has no moves left.

00:29:03.000 Why is he losing young voters?

00:29:05.000 The Palestine issue.

00:29:06.000 Is it that?

00:29:07.000 Well, I don't think so.

00:29:09.000 Palestine actually registers relatively low on voters' issues.

00:29:13.000 I think it's Palestine.

00:29:14.000 I think it's college debt.

00:29:15.000 I mean, there's data out right now that college interest rates are about to hit a decade high.

00:29:20.000 I mean, he's this guy who continuously promised to give them this future that is not there.

00:29:24.000 He's sending them into conflict internationally.

00:29:27.000 He's charging them like crazy for college.

00:29:29.000 He's not ending federally backed student loans.

00:29:31.000 He keeps forgiving more and more student debt illegally.

00:29:31.000 Yes, he is.

00:29:33.000 He did not come through in the way that he told them they would.

00:29:36.000 No, no, no, what do you mean? It's done. People are posting their like my debts gone. There are several millions of

00:29:41.000 dollars tied up in court. And as you they do. He did not come through in the way that he told them they would. Sure.

00:29:47.000 But when you look at what voters are concerned about economic issues at the top, when you break down the

00:29:52.000 different economic issues, I don't think it's fair to lump them all together necessarily, because they put like

00:29:57.000 homelessness as a separate like hunger, homelessness and poverty is a different issue from the economy. And I'm like,

00:30:03.000 if you're poor, is it not an economic issue?

00:30:05.000 Immigration, as a single issue, is charting the highest, according to Gallup.

00:30:11.000 And we pulled this up from Nate Silver.

00:30:14.000 Among 18- and 29-year-old voters, Palestine-Israel was number 15 out of 16, and number one was economy, number two was, I think it was, immigration.

00:30:25.000 And I'm like, across all demographics, immigration?

00:30:29.000 I think it's really simple.

00:30:30.000 You're a Gen Z-er, and you're wondering why you can't afford to buy a house, why you're living in a shoebox in New York City, why there are no jobs, and then why, on the news, you're watching them send $100 billion to Ukraine. 0.64

00:30:42.000 They brought in 5.1 million people in the past two years, according to Centers for Immigration Studies, and you're watching them get tax benefits.

00:30:51.000 Welfare benefits?

00:30:53.000 Luxury hotels?

00:30:55.000 Meanwhile, you're hungry, you can't get insurance, you can't buy a car, you can't buy a house.

00:30:59.000 So I, I, I, you know, don't know for sure, but I think economy immigration is a huge issue for, for Gen Z. There's this viral video from this dude, I think his name is, uh, what was his name?

00:31:13.000 Nicholas Sumners was the viral video?

00:31:14.000 It's like 11 million hits on TikTok.

00:31:16.000 And he's screaming, About why he makes three times the federal minimum wage, but he can't afford to get a house, he can't afford to live, he's working 40 hours a week, he does not want to work 90 hours a week.

00:31:28.000 Meanwhile, this country is sending hundreds of billions, he's like, I turned the news, 60 billion more of our dollars, taxpayers, being sent to a country no one can point to on a map.

00:31:38.000 I'm like, yo, Gen Z is pissed about the foreign policy spending.

00:31:41.000 Yeah, I think it's too big.

00:31:44.000 It's what you're talking about.

00:31:46.000 It's a visceral thing.

00:31:48.000 You look at your life and you're not in a better spot today with Joe Biden in office.

00:31:53.000 Now, not that the president single-handedly determines the quality of your life, but I think it's just people are looking at Biden like, what policies has he put in place to make my life better, to make It better for my family and you're coming up empty.

00:32:07.000 There's nothing there I also think that his I think age his age is a major major factor here To me, I don't know if the polls bear this out, but my feeling of it is that that might be the number one thing, because the fact is the guy is senile.

00:32:24.000 Like, he's an actual senile president, and I don't know how—it's hard to get past that.

00:32:28.000 You don't think he's inspirational to the youth?

00:32:31.000 Right.

00:32:32.000 I mean, to anyone, it's just—are we going to vote again for a senile president?

00:32:38.000 And then a third factor, too, is that they have not figured out A good line of attack for Trump, somehow, after all these years.

00:32:48.000 And so their attacks on Trump are failing, and that's part of the problem.

00:32:52.000 They're not able to mobilize voters against Trump because their narrative about Trump, even now, is that he's a dictator, he's in league with Putin, you know, he's going to bring in Handmaid's Tale dystopia and all this kind of stuff.

00:33:09.000 We all lived through the Trump years for four years.

00:33:11.000 And we know that, like, if anything, Trump's greatest flaw was the exact opposite of that, is that he didn't wield his power enough.

00:33:18.000 He was very shy, actually, about wielding his power.

00:33:20.000 He's the opposite of a dictator.

00:33:22.000 But that still is their narrative about him.

00:33:24.000 They haven't updated it.

00:33:25.000 And so they've got the senile guy overseeing a collapsing economy, and they're running against this other guy, and they can't figure out what their narrative is against him.

00:33:35.000 And that's sort of the situation they're in.

00:33:36.000 I think that's especially true for voters who were below 18 when Trump was in office.

00:33:42.000 Like, if you were 14 when Trump took office, you graduated high school right when Biden took over.

00:33:47.000 If you maybe went to college, if you've been working for a couple years, now you're inheriting this economy and this culture that is extremely negative and sort of in disarray.

00:33:55.000 It makes you want a change.

00:33:56.000 And if you were looking back thinking, oh, my parents had, you know, more money under Trump and they weren't complaining about inflation as much, like whether or not the president is the one who fixed it, you're going to look back at that time much more nostalgically and you're going to want it.

00:34:07.000 And it was something that you didn't vote to office, but now you might might choose to.

00:34:10.000 And the fact is the Trump years were good until 2020.

00:34:14.000 And you know, I'm as critical as anyone about Trump's handling of COVID.

00:34:17.000 But the problem is that we all know that if a Democrat was in office, it would have all the mistakes that Trump made, the Democrat would have made, but worse.

00:34:24.000 And we saw that once Biden went in.

00:34:26.000 So that's sort of a that's sort of a wash.

00:34:28.000 It's a non factor.

00:34:29.000 And so you look at the first three years, you say, well, the country's in a pretty good.

00:34:33.000 Were you for Trump during the primary when we had multiple candidates or were you like DeSantis or somebody?

00:34:39.000 During this primary?

00:34:40.000 I mean, I would have liked to see Ron DeSantis.

00:34:44.000 I think Ron DeSantis would be a great president.

00:34:46.000 I think he'd wipe the floor with Biden in a debate or in any other way.

00:34:52.000 But he didn't win, so Trump's the guy.

00:34:54.000 Would you want to see him in Trump's cabinet or in his office at all?

00:34:59.000 No, I wouldn't want to see that.

00:35:00.000 Number one, I just think it's a waste.

00:35:03.000 We need him in Florida.

00:35:04.000 He's much more effective being the governor of Florida.

00:35:06.000 I think putting him in a VP or putting him in the cabinet, I think is a waste.

00:35:11.000 Who do you want for VP?

00:35:15.000 You know, there's a couple different ways of looking at it.

00:35:18.000 I mean, I think someone like Vivek would be really interesting.

00:35:21.000 I think the VP doesn't matter that much at the end of the day.

00:35:24.000 Second First Lady. 0.93

00:35:25.000 Right, exactly.

00:35:26.000 It doesn't make much of a difference.

00:35:27.000 I think that Trump doesn't want someone who he thinks might get more publicity than he does, he might feel overshadowed by, so it probably won't be someone like Vivek.

00:35:34.000 I've heard Doug Burgum being floated around.

00:35:36.000 Like, there's no reason why it'd be Doug Burgum, except that he's just sort of a non-entity and he's not going to overshadow Trump.

00:35:42.000 He's a billionaire, right?

00:35:43.000 So Trump may find it relatable.

00:35:44.000 That's true.

00:35:45.000 But the other thing, too, is that, you know, the reality is that many of the people that work for Trump are in his orbit.

00:35:53.000 The relationships often don't end terribly well.

00:35:56.000 And so that's one of the reasons why I wouldn't want DeSantis In that circle, because you end up sullying what could be a powerful person in the movement going forward.

00:36:06.000 It's interesting.

00:36:07.000 I think that is one of the interesting things to come out of this election.

00:36:12.000 It's not necessarily Trump winning if he does.

00:36:15.000 It's what happens to the momentum that has built around this idea of MAGA and this sort of American first movement.

00:36:21.000 It's not clear who would be the next leader.

00:36:23.000 I mean, I do think Ron DeSantis has an interesting career ahead of him.

00:36:27.000 I think there are a lot of really promising people, but it's not like there is a carbon copy, maybe nor should there be, of exactly Donald Trump.

00:36:34.000 Yeah, and that was one of DeSantis' mistakes in the primaries, that he sort of positioned himself as Trump without the baggage, right?

00:36:44.000 But the problem is that there's only one Trump, and there's only going to ever be one.

00:36:48.000 And that's okay.

00:36:49.000 Ron DeSantis doesn't need to be Trump.

00:36:50.000 He needs to be Ron DeSantis.

00:36:54.000 That is the question of the MAGA movement.

00:36:56.000 Does it live beyond Trump?

00:36:57.000 And I think it doesn't if the insistence is that we need another Trump.

00:37:03.000 To take the reins.

00:37:04.000 Right.

00:37:05.000 Let's jump to the story from Rolling Stone.

00:37:07.000 Oh, we chose one of the most vile ways to interpret the news.

00:37:12.000 Chiefs kicker spreads anti-Semitic lies in Benedictine college graduation speech.

00:37:17.000 Harrison Butker claimed Congress passed a bill where stating something as basic as the biblical teaching of who killed Jesus could land you in jail.

00:37:24.000 So the actual story is Chiefs kicker Bucker congratulates women graduates and says most are more excited about motherhood.

00:37:33.000 Look at the distinction between this and this is AP.

00:37:36.000 That's that was his speech.

00:37:38.000 That without that that sorry, he says, quote, Well, let me read a little bit before because they get some context.

00:37:44.000 He says, Butker, who's made his conservative Catholic beliefs well-known, also a sailed

00:37:49.000 Pride Month and a particularly important time for LGBTQ rights and President Joe Biden's stance

00:37:54.000 on abortion, saying, I think it is you, the women, who've had the most diabolical lies told to you.

00:37:59.000 Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess the

00:38:03.000 majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into

00:38:06.000 this world. I.

00:38:08.000 I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabel, would be the first to say that her life truly started when she started living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

00:38:16.000 The way Rolling Stone put it is that he was spreading anti-Semitic lies, and we saw this story, and Matt was instantly like, what's anti-Semitic about it, I guess?

00:38:26.000 And I suppose this is—Rolling Stone did the meme.

00:38:31.000 The anti-Semitism bill gets passed in the House.

00:38:34.000 They say that the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism is how they will determine whether someone's being anti-Semitic.

00:38:40.000 One of the examples they gave was, it said, i.e., it's in parentheses, i.e., claiming Jews killed Jesus.

00:38:47.000 Then you had many people arguing that you would be accused of anti-Semitism for saying such.

00:38:53.000 Now Rolling Stone is claiming that he's spreading an anti-Semitic lie for saying what the bill and the website actually said.

00:39:00.000 Now, to be fair, I don't think there's jail time for that bill.

00:39:04.000 I think it's a civil violation, meaning that if they can interpret your actions in expressing biblical teachings, where in the Bible it literally does say, Jews killed Jesus, and that is the underpinning for some kind of discriminatory action, then you are civilly responsible, liable, and could be sued or something.

00:39:25.000 So I don't think going to jail is correct.

00:39:28.000 Unlikely.

00:39:29.000 I mean, I think the real story is his message to the young women, right?

00:39:33.000 Because Benedictine is a Catholic college.

00:39:36.000 Having gone to a Catholic college for the short time I was there, I know that what he was saying is true and I know that it resonated with those young women.

00:39:45.000 And they were clapping for his speech.

00:39:46.000 He got a standing ovation.

00:39:47.000 They loved it.

00:39:48.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:39:49.000 I interacted with these women. 0.97

00:39:52.000 For context, I was at Christendom College and, you know, when I was in conversation with these other female students, a lot of them said they don't really know what their career ambitions are.

00:40:03.000 A lot of them were hoping to, you know, get their MRS degree, unabashedly so, and they hosted workshops for these girls where stay-at-home moms would talk about their lifestyles and, you know, that is a profession, although people don't word it that way, being a homemaker is a profession in and of itself, that you don't need a degree for.

00:40:25.000 So I think that his speech was really sweet, you know, aside from anything else.

00:40:30.000 That's the only part of it that I saw.

00:40:32.000 Yeah, I would say being, not to play semantics, but I think being a homemaker is, it's work. 0.84

00:40:37.000 Yeah.

00:40:37.000 But it's not a job.

00:40:39.000 But I would say not a job, it's a profession.

00:40:39.000 Sure.

00:40:42.000 Right.

00:40:44.000 It's a vocation.

00:40:45.000 It's a vocation, right.

00:40:46.000 It's a vocation and it's work and it doesn't need to be.

00:40:49.000 It's like, there are honorable, noble things to do that aren't jobs.

00:40:53.000 And the interesting thing about this is that, of course, if he had, there's controversy because he said this to women, if he had said something similar to men, Which maybe he even did in the speech.

00:41:01.000 I haven't heard the whole speech.

00:41:02.000 He did tell men that they should embrace masculinity.

00:41:04.000 Okay, right.

00:41:05.000 And if you said that, or if you said to men, you know, look, you might go out and get a successful career.

00:41:10.000 I hope you do.

00:41:10.000 But when you get married and have kids, you're gonna look back on that as the most important thing you ever did.

00:41:17.000 And any married man would say that about himself, and it's not a controversy, but to say it to women somehow is. 0.91

00:41:21.000 It doesn't make sense to me.

00:41:22.000 There was a Ronald Reagan letter, I think, he was writing to his son, and one of the lines, he's giving him some advice, the son had been like, professional career, whatever, and Ronald Reagan had been, he had said, you know, the most important thing, I'm gonna botch this quote, Yes, the things that you may do as a man are important and your professional career is valuable.

00:41:44.000 On the other hand, no one should lose sight of the fact that the family is actually the most important unit in your life and you have to be intentional about building that.

00:41:54.000 That's one of the things that makes the career important is that you're doing it in service to your family to provide for them.

00:42:00.000 But I think that for whatever reason, that kind of message for a man is not, for the most part, viewed as controversial, but to say that to women somehow is, I suppose. 0.95

00:42:07.000 There was that story that went viral of Chelsea Handler, I think, where she's like, I don't have kids, so I wake up, do drugs, masturbate, and then go back to sleep.

00:42:15.000 And it's just like...

00:42:17.000 You know, she got roasted pretty heavily.

00:42:17.000 Pretty good.

00:42:18.000 And it was the weirdest thing because I know Ben was critical of her saying, she's miserable. 0.99

00:42:22.000 She's absolutely miserable. 0.97

00:42:23.000 You can tell. 0.97

00:42:24.000 And then I made a video.

00:42:25.000 Pretty good.

00:42:26.000 Pretty good impression.

00:42:27.000 Oh, thank you.

00:42:28.000 But I made a video where I was like, hey, I don't care.

00:42:30.000 More power to her.

00:42:31.000 I hope she's happy.

00:42:32.000 However, I would be willing to bet that on her deathbed, she's going to be in a sterile 0.76

00:42:37.000 hospital room.

00:42:38.000 The doctor's going to walk in and say, Ms.

00:42:40.000 Handler, I'm sorry.

00:42:42.000 It's terminal, and I think you may only have a few days.

00:42:45.000 Is there someone we should call?

00:42:47.000 And she's going to say, no.

00:42:48.000 And he's going to say, well, press the button if you need us.

00:42:50.000 And then I'm just imagining this dark room where she's sitting there terrified at the end of her life.

00:42:56.000 They got really mad that we were criticizing her for having said it.

00:43:01.000 Me, I take the more libertarian approach, like, hey, more power to you, lady, I guess.

00:43:04.000 But I think the message that you get with the likes of Rolling Stone and these liberals is, I don't think they're thinking for their futures.

00:43:12.000 And on top of the message that one day these people will be either at home I'll just put it this way.

00:43:20.000 I can be more brutal than being in a hospital room and a doctor says, I'm sorry, it's over and you have no one.

00:43:25.000 How about you're in your house and you feel a sharp pain in the side of your chest and you fall down and you're dizzy and you can't get up and you're groaning and begging for help and there's no one there to help you.

00:43:36.000 It can be much more brutal than that.

00:43:38.000 That's the world that they resign themselves to in much greater numbers because they reject family, and family supports each other.

00:43:45.000 But if we want to get into the macro things, the bigger picture, Social Security is expected to start breaking down in 2033.

00:43:51.000 And many of these people, like Chelsea Handler, are going to vote in systems that expect the younger generation, the children of responsible families, to pay the bills of the likes of Chelsea Handler and Bill Maher.

00:44:01.000 Well, to be fair, they're both rich.

00:44:03.000 They'll have, you know, servants or whatever, but the average person who believes in that world and decides to live that way, they're going to be voting in laws that extract from the younger generation of responsible parents who have families.

00:44:16.000 Yeah, and they already are.

00:44:18.000 It's already happening.

00:44:19.000 I think that pointing out that, and I've said it many times, that people like Chelsea Handler are going to die alone, as you've said, and not just die alone, but then Leave behind no legacy, no lasting impact on the world.

00:44:33.000 And that's important to point out, but it's also like while you're living, it's just not true.

00:44:38.000 When Chelsea Handler... I'm a little bit less generous than you, because when Chelsea Handler says, I'm very happy living this way...

00:44:44.000 No, you're not.

00:44:45.000 You're not actually happy living this way.

00:44:47.000 I know that you're not happy.

00:44:47.000 You know you're not happy.

00:44:48.000 There's a reason why you're making a video saying, hey guys, I'm happy.

00:44:50.000 Like generally when you make a video and the whole purpose is to say, look everyone, I'm happy.

00:44:54.000 It means that you're not because happy people don't feel the need to go around trying to convince the world that they are.

00:44:58.000 But also that's just not how human happiness works.

00:45:01.000 Humans cannot be happy that way.

00:45:02.000 We find happiness in relationships and sacrificial loving relationships.

00:45:08.000 You cannot find true happiness on your own living a life of just kind of aimless You know, self-centered recreation.

00:45:16.000 It's like that movie Into the Wild about the... Christopher McCandless.

00:45:22.000 Christopher McCandless goes out on his own into the Alaskan wilderness and then he ends up dying, you know, in the woods.

00:45:29.000 And his parents had no idea what happened to him for a long time because he just like burned his money and left his car in a ditch.

00:45:34.000 Right.

00:45:34.000 And I don't know if this is in the real story that's happened or not, but in the movie he writes something, he writes a message in his book saying something like, happiness isn't real unless it's shared or something like that.

00:45:43.000 That's his last thought that he has before he dies alone.

00:45:46.000 And there's a lot of truth to that.

00:45:48.000 And so you just can't, it's just not on offer in life to be happy on your own, smoking weed, waking up late.

00:45:56.000 You're correct.

00:45:57.000 I actually completely agree.

00:45:58.000 I think it was Jeremy Boring said this on the show last time he was here.

00:46:03.000 We were talking about climate change and they're talking about how we want less people and he made the point that we only do things for people.

00:46:11.000 We don't live our lives and follow our dreams and build monuments for trees.

00:46:17.000 We do it for humans, for the human experience in which we are a part of.

00:46:20.000 Without humans there is no human experience and it's completely true. 0.51

00:46:23.000 And that's the bigger picture of Yeah, happiness doesn't exist unless it's shared.

00:46:28.000 And that's why people love to tell stories.

00:46:30.000 That's why people want to sit down with their friends and joke with each other.

00:46:34.000 I suppose my view is more, if I get nerdy about it, I view you, Matt, as, for all the D&D fans out there, more like a paladin, right?

00:46:41.000 You're a righteous warrior, a knight of divine justice, and I'm more of a rogue who's just sitting back and watching people like her self-destruct, saying, fine, whatever.

00:46:50.000 A paladin? 0.96

00:46:51.000 Yeah.

00:46:52.000 I take that as a compliment.

00:46:53.000 I don't know what that is.

00:46:55.000 Well, so it's like a holy knight.

00:46:56.000 It's like a warrior who brings about divine retribution and justice and lives very, very honorably.

00:47:03.000 And the rogues are more just like, I'm going to do my thing and go about my business.

00:47:07.000 And that's kind of how I view it.

00:47:08.000 If Chelsea Handler wants to self-destruct, yeah, whatever. 1.00

00:47:11.000 Yeah, I'm not, I'm certainly, I will not claim that I'm laying awake at night worrying about her happiness and lack thereof.

00:47:19.000 One other thing I'll say about this is that, you know, when these people brag about being childless, and they talk about all the things that make being childless so great, most of it's empty and superficial.

00:47:31.000 But the other thing is that all of the things that make that life fun, are available to me.

00:47:35.000 I mean, I have six kids and I can do all that stuff if I wanted to.

00:47:38.000 I don't want to smoke weed and all that, but I could if I wanted to.

00:47:42.000 I could do all that.

00:47:42.000 I can go on vacation.

00:47:43.000 I can do all that kind of stuff.

00:47:44.000 It might take more effort, but I can do it.

00:47:46.000 But when you have a family, there are avenues of happiness.

00:47:52.000 There's like a type of happiness that is simply not available to you unless you have a family yourself.

00:47:58.000 And some of that is the Ronald Reagan thing, coming home after a long day at work and your

00:48:03.000 little four-year-old daughter runs up to you.

00:48:04.000 It's like that's a kind of happiness that's just not, Chelsea Handler can't experience

00:48:09.000 it.

00:48:10.000 It's not available to her.

00:48:11.000 And the closest she can ever get is seeing how many people liked her video saying, I'm

00:48:15.000 happy, right?

00:48:16.000 Like those are the relationships she's chasing.

00:48:18.000 And I think that's such misplaced energy.

00:48:21.000 She is trying to say, I want you guys to validate the way I'm feeling and she is not able to sustain a healthy relationship with anyone close to her because she needs it to be like, look, I am setting the terms of everything.

00:48:32.000 I mean, that's the biggest...

00:48:33.000 Well, to go back to the NFL kicker, you know, one of the things he referenced with that was his wife saying, you know, I think she would tell you that this was the best decision.

00:48:43.000 She feels fulfilled by it.

00:48:44.000 And I think that alludes to the sacrifice that people have to make.

00:48:47.000 Like in life you have to make choices.

00:48:49.000 You may not get to do everything you want all the time.

00:48:51.000 Perhaps you cannot smoke weed because you have to go to your kids' soccer games, but the thing that you're giving up for is worth it.

00:48:57.000 The things that you are getting from it are valuable to you and are ultimately part of how they will shape the rest of your life.

00:49:02.000 I think that the culture that Chelsea Handler is living in is much more about momentary instantaneous pleasure as opposed to the joys of things that come from sacrifice and hard work.

00:49:17.000 Chelsea Handler at a very young age learned that after suffering some kind of ailment, she would be unable to have kids, and this is actually just her coping with trauma.

00:49:30.000 How would you feel if there was something like that going on?

00:49:33.000 Well, I'd say you're coping with it the wrong way.

00:49:34.000 I mean, look, there are people that can't have kids or that want to and just it doesn't happen, you know, that happens.

00:49:42.000 But I do think that every person is called, I think every human being has a maternal or paternal calling.

00:49:49.000 So every man's called to be a father and every woman's called to be a mother.

00:49:52.000 Usually that will take the form of the biological sense where you actually have kids.

00:49:57.000 And then sometimes it will take the form of adoption.

00:50:00.000 But then there are other forms even beyond that where it might not be either of those.

00:50:04.000 And maybe you go into the religious life.

00:50:05.000 Maybe you get into, you know, you become a missionary.

00:50:09.000 But the point is that a life of a kind of maternal or paternal service is what everyone is called to in some form.

00:50:17.000 And I think if you just reject that outright and say, I don't want any part of that or anything that looks like it, you're living not only a sort of pointless, empathetic life, but also one that's like deeply sad, I think.

00:50:28.000 The scariest thing is if you do not have kids, it will be the first time since the dawn of humanity that your line did not reproduce. 0.99

00:50:38.000 So the weight of every single one of your ancestors is upon you to continue your family.

00:50:46.000 I just think of all the relatives who, like, nurse their kids through, like, smallpox or yellow fever and, like, help raise them and sacrifice for them.

00:50:53.000 We talked about this the other night.

00:50:54.000 Like, parents who are like, I came from nothing, but I'm going to work hard to give you more.

00:50:58.000 And then at the end of your line is this person who's like, but I like to have my house decorated in a certain way.

00:51:03.000 And I like having two incomes and nothing to do on the weekends. 0.95

00:51:05.000 We're dinks!

00:51:06.000 So I guess this is better. 0.98

00:51:08.000 The sinister alternative that they're promoting right now is chosen family, like the friends cast where you make a bunch of friends and someone like Chelsea Handler has like gay best friends and they go out and post it to social media. 0.69

00:51:22.000 But those people, they don't have any loyalty to you.

00:51:25.000 So that's why you talked about her deathbed, right?

00:51:30.000 Who of her chosen family is going to be there for her at her lowest, when she is then reduced to the state of a child again, when she's elderly?

00:51:38.000 And who of those people, if they decide, even before she dies, If they decide that, like, they find her kind of annoying and she has all these flaws and everything, which we know she has quite a few of them, like, how many of them are going to stay devoted to her even then?

00:51:54.000 Because the thing is, in most friendships, you know, it is like you're devoted to each other to a certain extent, but it's because, like, we kind of like being around each other.

00:52:03.000 there's nothing there's nothing most of the time there's nothing that quite transcends that now when your family you have blood that transcends that so that even if you're annoyed with each other sometimes you still have that familial devotion well i gave you the horrible scenario for her on her deathbed where the doctor says press the button there's the inverse you're on your deathbed surrounded by your Your grandchildren, your children, they're holding your hands, crying, saying you were the best dad, you were the best mom.

00:52:25.000 You did everything for us and we'll always care about you, we'll always believe in you, and your story will live on.

00:52:31.000 We're going to name our great-grandkids, things like that.

00:52:33.000 And you are in a room, warm, surrounded by love, with a smile on your face.

00:52:37.000 The beautiful thing about family, though, is that even if you weren't the best grandmother, you weren't the best mom, whatever you were, they'll say it anyway.

00:52:44.000 Just lie to me as I'm dying, at least.

00:52:46.000 They will be loyal to you anyway.

00:52:48.000 They will be there for you anyway, because there's room for vulnerability, right?

00:52:52.000 Sometimes family falls apart, but for the most part, you have the highest percentage odds of having people be there for you and say the nicest thing, the loving things to you, even if they don't really mean it, because they still do care about you, even if they're annoyed by the little things.

00:53:05.000 Well, because what's scary to me more than the deathbed scenario, like if you're, what's her name, Wendy Williams, she's like in a conservatorship right now because she's getting dementia, like if Chelsea Handler starts to lose control of her mind, her faculties, whatever else, like who is going to be the person who steps up to care for her, right?

00:53:20.000 Like that is when you really need someone.

00:53:22.000 You.

00:53:23.000 And not Chelsea Handler, no thanks.

00:53:25.000 Oh, you have no choice.

00:53:26.000 The state will come and take your mind.

00:53:27.000 The state will maybe but like who is going to be there when you are like needing a routine?

00:53:32.000 Who is literally going to be in your home with you?

00:53:34.000 Because it's like I guess her state could hire her a nurse but like you don't know what that there are lots of great like in-home carers but like it's to me the craziest thing that happens is like at the end of your life you need more support and if you haven't poured into your family like if she couldn't have kids you know hopefully she's a fantastic aunt hopefully she's She's at every single volleyball game for her nieces and

00:53:55.000 nephews because ultimately at the end of your life you need your community and that

00:53:58.000 tends to be your family.

00:53:59.000 And if you isolate your family, if you don't create your own family, who is there when

00:54:02.000 you need them?

00:54:03.000 I really do fear for what happens when the millennial and younger generation who are 0.88

00:54:09.000 single with no kids and lots of cats are elderly and in need of help and support and they have

00:54:14.000 no families.

00:54:18.000 We're seeing more cases of elder abuse even now.

00:54:21.000 It's going to be brutal because Social Security, 940 bucks a month or something.

00:54:27.000 2033, it starts becoming insolvent and breaking down.

00:54:31.000 With low fertility and a smaller amount of young people relative to old people, you don't just have a shortfall in cash, you have a shortfall in the actual labor to produce the services and resources for the elderly who need it.

00:54:43.000 So you can print all the money in the world you want, tax everybody, you could tax 100% for all the young people, give it to the older people, and they're gonna be like, there's still not enough production to support these old single millennial lefties and woke people who didn't have families.

00:54:58.000 What does that future look like?

00:55:01.000 I am terrified of what that future is going to be, because it goes one of two extreme directions.

00:55:06.000 One is which they vote en masse to subjugate the younger generations to an extreme degree, drafting younger generations towards civic duty for a certain amount of years to produce the resources required for the older people who didn't have families, whether you want to or not.

00:55:22.000 Or the other side of things, the much more terrifying, a bunch of old people wandering the streets or just dying because there's no support system and no one's willing to pay their bills or do the work for them. 1.00

00:55:32.000 I think there's actually a third scenario which maybe could fit into one or two, which is what we're already seeing in Canada, which is we start to see Old age treated as a disease and there's a cure for that disease, you know, which is, which is euthanasia.

00:55:48.000 And, um, so we're going to see the expansion of the kind of euthanasia program.

00:55:52.000 Uh, and at a certain age, we're going to look at you, the society's going to look at you and say, well, there's, you don't do anything anymore.

00:55:58.000 You're no use to us.

00:56:00.000 And so why don't you just get, get going?

00:56:02.000 Um, and that's, like I said, they're already doing that.

00:56:04.000 Wasn't that a cultural tradition in Japan?

00:56:04.000 Logan's wrong.

00:56:06.000 I could be totally wrong here, but there was one country.

00:56:08.000 It was like the older people just are supposed to like sacrifice himself, walk into the woods and like, I feel like I can't be a burden on society. 1.00

00:56:13.000 I don't know what country, so I can't remember.

00:56:15.000 Sounds like Japan. 0.76

00:56:18.000 I know Japan.

00:56:20.000 It does sound like Japan, but Japan's better about it. 1.00

00:56:22.000 So, for instance, Fukushima.

00:56:25.000 The nuclear reactors go up.

00:56:26.000 Radiation's spilling out everywhere.

00:56:28.000 The old people lined up to volunteer to go into the reactor to try and clean it up and shut it down, saying, we have lived good lives and now we will make the sacrifice for the children.

00:56:37.000 And I'm like, wow, that's kind of the opposite of what we got with Congress.

00:56:40.000 Older people who are like, let's extract as much as we can. 1.00

00:56:43.000 This is my seat and you can never take it away from me.

00:56:45.000 They're having their own issues keeping up the birth rate in Japan.

00:56:47.000 No, exactly.

00:56:48.000 And in China as well.

00:56:49.000 Do you think we'll see the birth rate turn around in the next five years?

00:56:53.000 Five years, no.

00:56:54.000 What do you think?

00:56:56.000 This is a generational problem.

00:56:58.000 It took us generations to get here.

00:57:00.000 There's no sign of it turning around.

00:57:02.000 We're far off from the point of experiencing actual population decline. 0.98

00:57:08.000 And I say, so people that are stupid, of course, will look at it and say, well, you know, every time Elon talks about the depopulation agenda, which I'm glad he talks about it, in his comments, you always see a bunch of people say, what are you talking about? 0.98

00:57:17.000 The population's growing by every day. 0.99

00:57:20.000 But the point is that we're below replacement level in a lot of these societies.

00:57:22.000 And so the population increase is slowing down.

00:57:26.000 Eventually you get to the point where it actually does start decreasing.

00:57:28.000 When that happens, now you're in a catastrophic, cataclysmic situation.

00:57:33.000 I don't, I'm not sure what could, A lot more people need to have six kids like me.

00:57:39.000 But how do you get people to have six kids?

00:57:40.000 There could be a pendulum swing, right?

00:57:42.000 Because I was just thinking about this today.

00:57:44.000 It used to be seen as a status symbol, it maybe still is, to not have a lot of kids.

00:57:48.000 And poor people would generally have more kids because the more kids you have, the more people you have to contribute to the household.

00:57:57.000 Which used to be the economic center, like home and work used to be one and the same.

00:58:02.000 And then the pendulum swing is going to happen where it's going to be seen as a status symbol to have three plus kids and get above replacement rate, because it's seen now as a luxury to be able to do that, especially as it's seen as a luxury to be able to have a single income household.

00:58:17.000 I hope that's well, as long as it's a status symbol to have a lot of kids with one set of parents. Not like the NFL route? Well, I mean, Elon

00:58:17.000 Same way.

00:58:25.000 is, you know, he's paying lip service to the whole population replacement thing, but he has factually

00:58:32.000 discarded a lot of his children via the process of IVF, and he doesn't really understand the

00:58:37.000 sanctity of human life.

00:58:38.000 Yeah, and that's a tough one to get people to understand.

00:58:43.000 First, you've got to get the pro-life argument down.

00:58:46.000 It's like, let's get to the hard part.

00:58:50.000 It shouldn't really be hard because, as you understand, it's like either human life is sacred or it isn't.

00:58:56.000 Either it has meaning or it doesn't.

00:59:01.000 I know a lot of families that have a lot of kids, and I grew up in a family where there was also six kids, and some parents of a lot of kids feel a certain embarrassment.

00:59:12.000 Not that they have a lot of kids, but when they go out in public, people tend to stare.

00:59:15.000 They make comments.

00:59:16.000 They make comments.

00:59:17.000 I don't feel that way.

00:59:20.000 Have you gotten comments like that?

00:59:22.000 Or your wife?

00:59:23.000 Yeah, we get comments.

00:59:24.000 She probably gets more than I do.

00:59:28.000 Usually it's pretty innocuous.

00:59:30.000 Somebody just points out that, oh, you got a lot of kids there.

00:59:31.000 It's like, thanks.

00:59:33.000 I hadn't noticed.

00:59:34.000 Thanks for telling me.

00:59:34.000 I had a family friend that had a lot of kids and it happened once.

00:59:36.000 They're like, oh, a lot of kids here.

00:59:37.000 And she went, I know, isn't it great?

00:59:39.000 And I was like, that was the best response.

00:59:41.000 Some people say, well, you know how that happens, right?

00:59:44.000 You know, as if we didn't know.

00:59:46.000 But I don't feel that.

00:59:49.000 I feel proud of having a lot of kids.

00:59:51.000 So if we got to a point where that's how the culture was sort of wired, I think that would help.

00:59:55.000 With this problem, but it is a, it's a, it's like I said, a generational problem.

00:59:58.000 I feel like you have to make it fun to be a family again.

01:00:00.000 Like everyone should have a baby shower. 0.69

01:00:01.000 Everyone should be like, wow, it's great that you're having children.

01:00:04.000 Like stop treating it like it's the end of your life.

01:00:06.000 That and also society needs to be much more welcoming of families.

01:00:10.000 This is like, this is a constant, you know, source of argument and debates that come up on Twitter all the time where you've got another person on TikTok like saying, if you have a kid, stop going to grocery stores with your bratty kid or whatever.

01:00:21.000 Stop bringing them into restaurants.

01:00:22.000 Well, it's like, Or even just like necessary things like the airplanes, public transport.

01:00:28.000 Kids have a right to exist in society and families have a right to exist.

01:00:32.000 And not only have a right to exist, but it's a good thing we should want.

01:00:35.000 You should be happy when you go to the grocery store and you see families with kids.

01:00:39.000 That's a wonderful thing.

01:00:40.000 The real issue is people aren't disciplining their kids as much as they used to and I think that's what people are reacting to.

01:00:48.000 But they're reacting the wrong way.

01:00:50.000 Yeah.

01:00:50.000 You know, but I understand why people then, parents are disappointed in their kids, they take it out, they think it's a kid problem.

01:00:57.000 My view is, you know, we invite people to come and skate the park or film, I always tell, bring your family.

01:01:03.000 It's like, we're exercising, it's a sunny Saturday morning, you want to come, bring the wife, bring the kids, we'll order food, we'll hang out, make it a family thing.

01:01:13.000 I tell people who work here at this company, if you want, bring your kids.

01:01:17.000 Your kids can watch you work when they're able to watch you work.

01:01:19.000 I think it is one of the biggest problems that we face in this country is that we've separated parents from their children institutionally, socially.

01:01:28.000 Kids go off to the institutionalized learning facility.

01:01:31.000 Dad goes to work.

01:01:32.000 Mom goes to work.

01:01:33.000 And then everyone's just, they're broken up.

01:01:37.000 I think kids need to see what their parents are doing as often as they can.

01:01:40.000 Parents need to spend time with their kids. 0.74

01:01:42.000 There's a story.

01:01:42.000 You know what?

01:01:43.000 Let's jump to the story, man.

01:01:44.000 This is a brutal story.

01:01:45.000 It's heartbreaking.

01:01:47.000 Daily Mail, Boy 10 kills himself after suffering horrific bullying that saw his classmates mock

01:01:53.000 his glasses and his teeth. So this poor kid, man, 10 years old, getting mercilessly bullied.

01:02:00.000 And, you know, a part of me feels bad at saying this, but I was reading a breakdown of the story

01:02:09.000 and the kid had been bullied so mercilessly, physical abuse.

01:02:13.000 The emotional stuff I get, that's tough, but physical abuse, you gotta stop that, that's wrong.

01:02:20.000 The dad said to the school, what are you doing about it?

01:02:23.000 And, you know, I feel bad saying this because, I mean, this dude lost his kid, and that's horrifying.

01:02:30.000 I've seen many things in my day.

01:02:32.000 I watched a video where a father was holding his dying son, and it is a sound that is haunting.

01:02:37.000 It's a horrible thing.

01:02:39.000 But I just think, let this be a moment for people to realize, you can't just say to a school, what are you doing about it, when your kid is being physically attacked.

01:02:48.000 Something's gotta change.

01:02:50.000 Don't be, look, I see this kid who's suffering in school.

01:02:57.000 You've got the social element that there's no escape from.

01:03:00.000 That's the emotional issue for him.

01:03:01.000 His whole peer group, which is his whole world, mocking him, making him feel like garbage, and then he gets physically attacked.

01:03:08.000 And his family's just asking the school, what are they doing about it?

01:03:10.000 Well, nothing, clearly.

01:03:11.000 So what does the kid do?

01:03:12.000 The kid doesn't understand what else there is.

01:03:15.000 Yeah.

01:03:18.000 I have a son who's 10 years old, so this story is really tough, I think, for anybody, obviously.

01:03:23.000 It's sort of unthinkable.

01:03:27.000 It's totally unthinkable that a child would, I can't even wrap my mind around it.

01:03:31.000 And one thing that I think we don't, haven't quite wrapped all of our minds around is the fact that this is, this whole phenomenon of children committing suicide is very new.

01:03:40.000 It's very modern.

01:03:40.000 Uh, you know, a hundred years ago, this just wasn't happening.

01:03:44.000 And now it's, it happens all the time.

01:03:47.000 And so it does, it is a reason to actually have a conversation about like, why is this really happening?

01:03:52.000 And I think that, look, from the, from the parent's perspective, um, I think we can assume that they were doing a lot behind the

01:03:59.000 scenes to work with their child and do everything they can.

01:04:01.000 The problem is that you're sending your kid into this environment in schools, what there's

01:04:06.000 only so much you can do.

01:04:07.000 I could see, and I don't send my kid to public school, but let's say that I did and the child

01:04:14.000 is having all these problems in school.

01:04:15.000 It's like what?

01:04:16.000 You can't go to the school with him and walk around with him and defend him from the bullies.

01:04:22.000 You're sort of at the mercy of the school and you're at the mercy of the administrators and you're at the mercy of the other kids.

01:04:29.000 And because what we thought we're talking about this a little bit off air, but the.

01:04:32.000 The fundamental problem here is is that these kids are going to a school and they're in this peer oriented environment.

01:04:43.000 Every single day.

01:04:45.000 And then not only that, they go home and because of the phones and the internet, they don't leave the peer environment.

01:04:52.000 They don't leave peer culture.

01:04:53.000 So they're in peer culture every single day physically and then it follows them.

01:04:58.000 It's like this fog that just follows them everywhere.

01:05:01.000 So what that means is that if a kid is rejected socially by his peers for whatever reason, There's nowhere for him to go to escape that.

01:05:12.000 And at least like 30 years ago, if you were bullied in school, at least when you went home, like you're home now and you're with your family and those kids can't get you anymore.

01:05:22.000 But now it follows you.

01:05:24.000 And so these kids, they feel like they're rejected by their peers.

01:05:30.000 It's everywhere they turn, they're getting reminders of that rejection, and they feel like their life is over because this is their life.

01:05:35.000 This is what defines their life.

01:05:38.000 And so that's kind of how deep the problem goes.

01:05:40.000 I think it is like when we hear about these kinds of cases, we think, well, why is bullying happening?

01:05:45.000 It's a problem with bullying.

01:05:46.000 Well, kids have always been bullied, and bullying is a terrible thing, and we should try to stop it in schools.

01:05:50.000 Kids have always been bullied.

01:05:52.000 And yet they weren't always committing suicide as a response to that.

01:05:57.000 And why is it?

01:05:57.000 Is it because kids are like weaker today?

01:05:59.000 No.

01:06:00.000 It's because of this pure orientation, this pure culture that they are totally immersed in and cannot escape.

01:06:06.000 And I think that's the fundamental problem.

01:06:08.000 I look at the majority of human history and how children were raised.

01:06:13.000 When the kid was old enough, the dad, who's a carpenter, would say, son, grab those nails over here, come here, I'll show you what I'm doing.

01:06:19.000 The kid would watch.

01:06:20.000 There's not the same formal education in school and institutionalized learning that we have today.

01:06:25.000 So the kids really did grow up with their families, and the kids worked all day.

01:06:30.000 And the dad worked all day, and the mom worked all day, and they worked in different ways.

01:06:35.000 And then at some point we got the industrialization of human society, where instead of the children, boys and girls, growing up with their parents and living in the family, being on a farm, really, for the most part, it turned into public schools that were like factories.

01:06:49.000 Kids worked, but they worked in horrible conditions, and we were like, okay, this is bad, we can't have kids working in these conditions.

01:06:54.000 But the issue now is, I don't blame the parents.

01:06:57.000 Not at all.

01:06:58.000 I think they're victims of a system that makes it impossible for parents to find a way out.

01:07:02.000 The one thing I hear a lot of when I say things like, homeschool your kids.

01:07:05.000 Try and get back to how humans actually raise their kids to the best of your ability.

01:07:10.000 The way the economy is set up, it's nearly impossible for many parents.

01:07:14.000 They're like, in order to have a roof over our heads and food.

01:07:18.000 We both have to work.

01:07:20.000 We can't afford daycare, so public school is the only viable option.

01:07:24.000 Then our kid is effectively being tortured in this environment, and neither of us can go to the school, like you were saying, Matt, and intervene, can't afford to homeschool, and we don't know how to solve this problem.

01:07:34.000 And I think that's one of the reasons programs like the HOPE Scholarship in West Virginia are really important, like having the option to say, this school isn't working for my kid, I'm going to pull them.

01:07:42.000 With the HOPE Scholarship, you get money to then send to a private school or use to homeschool, like making it so that parents can really be in charge of the educational environment their children are in.

01:07:51.000 Because I, you know, if you can't, if one parent can't stay home and homeschool, homeschooling is a lot of work.

01:07:58.000 Then maybe there's a private school in your area.

01:08:00.000 Maybe there is a co-op you can join.

01:08:02.000 Being able to remove kids from educational situations that aren't working is really important, especially because there is a social component to a lot of suicide trends.

01:08:10.000 I mean, there are studies that talk about suicide pods where schools that experience a suicide might see two or three more pop up in the next five years because there is the idea that once it is in a student's mind, it makes a student that is potentially at a higher risk already more likely to commit.

01:08:27.000 And I think especially young children are susceptible to suggestion.

01:08:31.000 We see this in public schools all the time when they're suggested ideas about gender, they're suggested ideas about religion, you know, and it's a vulnerable time and I think The biggest thing we could do to offer parents in this position support is to make it possible for them to remove their student.

01:08:49.000 And in this case, like, if your kid's attending public school and you're paying into that tax base, like, take the money with you and go somewhere else.

01:08:56.000 I don't think that making it so it's like, well, we as the administrators kind of did nothing and you're kind of stuck, like, this is all we can offer you is enough.

01:09:04.000 I don't think it's good enough, especially for parents like this.

01:09:07.000 You do a private school for your kids?

01:09:09.000 Are they going to like a private Catholic school?

01:09:10.000 Uh, we homeschool.

01:09:11.000 Oh, okay.

01:09:12.000 Completely.

01:09:12.000 Homeschool.

01:09:12.000 Yeah.

01:09:13.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 Well, we had, you know, there, there are different, you know, when you homeschool, uh, kind of to your point, it's, it's, there are resources available.

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:21.000 There are co-ops and that sort of thing, uh, that you can do with your kid.

01:09:24.000 And that's, and that's, and there, there are, there are many more options now than there ever were before.

01:09:29.000 Homeschooling has become a much more mainstream option for people, although.

01:09:33.000 As much as I advocate homeschooling, I still understand that it is the reality that some parents just can't, you just can't do it.

01:09:40.000 And it comes down to the, the economics of it, the finances of it.

01:09:43.000 And, uh, you know, if you, if both parents like you need to work in order to keep a roof over your head, then public school might be the only, the only option.

01:09:50.000 And, um, then I would say if you're in that spot, the best thing you can do is is make sure that when your kid comes home that he is home

01:10:01.000 now and that your home is a different place entirely from the

01:10:05.000 school and take away the phones, take away the internet

01:10:08.000 as much as you possibly can and it's like we're home now together and give

01:10:12.000 him that, give them that like oasis away from

01:10:17.000 all the stuff at school. I think more people need to discover

01:10:20.000 rural living. There's a, I was mentioning a viral video earlier from a Gen Z guy

01:10:25.000 saying he can't afford to live, he can't afford to buy house. What's up?

01:10:28.000 And I'm like, well, you can in West Virginia.

01:10:30.000 You can get, you can buy a house for like 70K, a nice one.

01:10:34.000 It's just that you're in a rural area, you're not living in the big city, but a lot of people want to live in these cities.

01:10:39.000 So I think there's a social cultural issue.

01:10:42.000 I saw this interesting map of population density in Ireland, and it used to be, in the 1800s, completely even.

01:10:49.000 Like, a couple hundred thousand people in every different district or whatever they're called, and now everyone's in Dublin.

01:10:54.000 Everyone.

01:10:55.000 And I'm like, well, that hyper-concentration is gonna strain resources, the environment, the cost of living.

01:11:03.000 People need to be more content with living further away from the cities.

01:11:08.000 I understand then they have the challenge of gas.

01:11:09.000 Gas gets expensive, and that's why it matters.

01:11:11.000 It's also access to jobs, right, for a lot of people, that if you live in a rural area, it necessitates them working from home.

01:11:19.000 Which is becoming more accessible but you're right, you are right.

01:11:22.000 I'm just wondering if, you know when I see a story like this and I hear about a man and a woman and they're saying we both have to work full-time jobs to support this house, I'm just thinking like, Is it possible, I don't know if it's even possible, but assuming it's possible to live like humans did a hundred years ago, get a cheap plot of land in the middle of nowhere, build the house, work nonstop, get some animals and be self-sufficient, is that a possibility today if you wanted to get away from this system and protect your family?

01:11:52.000 I mean, I think, of course, it is if that's what you're choosing to prioritize, right?

01:11:55.000 Like, if you're saying, we both need to work to afford this home in this city, and we pick the city because the schools are good, but actually all of our kids are suffering and having a bad time, like, maybe you can go back to the drawing board and say, well, if we move over here and pay less, one of us can stay home or one can be home part-time or whatever it is.

01:12:12.000 You know, I think the challenge is you have to decide what things are must-haves in your life and what are not.

01:12:19.000 Is living near the city because your job is there and you need the job to support your family a requirement?

01:12:23.000 Maybe.

01:12:23.000 But is it I'm living in the city because I want to be able to eat at restaurants that are open at midnight?

01:12:29.000 You give that up when you go to real life.

01:12:31.000 You have to plan differently.

01:12:33.000 You know, I know people who live, you know, more southern West Virginia and like they have one or two, like a day of the month where they drive to Costco and they buy everything they need and they drive back out to, you know, the woods and, and cell service is always great.

01:12:44.000 But the decision was that this is more in line, in alignment with the values for our family and our financial goals or whatever it is.

01:12:51.000 Uh, it's difficult.

01:12:52.000 I think, um, I've always heard this thing that it's, you might be the one to, to speak to this.

01:12:57.000 There'll be these debates like which is hardest going from two kids to three or three kids to four but I have this impression that it's actually going from zero to one and deciding that like you're going down this path of raising children and that is the at the core of your of your life now because you can't do some things that you want and you maybe have to decide okay rural life where this house has more land but it's farther from whatever thing whatever luxury we like to in our younger 20s is the goal over you know being able to I... I kinda think it's like...

01:13:32.000 The greatest thing ever, just imagining having a homestead and waking up, feeding the chickens, chopping some wood, taking care of the cows, just sustaining off your land.

01:13:40.000 And that sounds absolutely amazing.

01:13:42.000 I have no interest in working with livestock, so that doesn't appeal to me.

01:13:45.000 But it sounds cool for someone.

01:13:47.000 Like, I like the idea.

01:13:48.000 I grew up in a really rural part of Connecticut, and the fact that, like, we had woods to run through, that was amazing.

01:13:53.000 I would love to replicate that.

01:13:54.000 And it's just, again, you have to decide, like, what do you want?

01:13:57.000 And when do you decide to go after it?

01:13:59.000 Yeah, because even if you're not doing the full homestead thing, which I also like, I like the idea of it.

01:14:04.000 I don't know if, maybe like the second week of waking up.

01:14:07.000 You want to muck out a stall?

01:14:08.000 No, thank you.

01:14:10.000 5 a.m. 0.99

01:14:10.000 to milk the freaking cows. 0.99

01:14:11.000 I don't know how much I'd really love that, but at least being, if you can, in an area where Kids in general need space to go run and play. 0.94

01:14:21.000 Boys in particular, not that girls don't need it, but at least I've noticed it myself with our kids, that boys in particular, they just need like space.

01:14:31.000 They're just like brimming with energy and you can't, and so many of these boys are being contained and they're being sort of like anesthetized with, we'll put

01:14:41.000 them in front of a screen and because that makes it, you know, it's, they're easier

01:14:45.000 to manage that way. And yeah, you can kind of, but it's like a numbing effect. It's, it's

01:14:50.000 not an actual outlet that they need.

01:14:51.000 And I know like with my boys, they're just, you know, you let them loose in the woods and they go

01:14:58.000 and they just want to run through the woods all day and they come home and that's the childhood

01:15:02.000 I grew up with. And people, people lament that that kind of childhood is gone these days, but

01:15:07.000 it doesn't have to be. Well, it's also partly because of the stranger danger.

01:15:11.000 Propaganda and maybe there's some truth to it that we live in a more dangerous culture than we used to.

01:15:17.000 I was just seeing this PSA that was on TV like 10 p.m.

01:15:22.000 Do you know where your children are?

01:15:23.000 And it's supposed to remind parents that like, hey, the streetlights are on.

01:15:28.000 They've been on for a few hours now.

01:15:29.000 You should probably make sure your kids come home.

01:15:32.000 But like they didn't worry about those things back then.

01:15:34.000 I mean, it's worse than that now. When I was a kid, when I'm seven years old, I go outside,

01:15:39.000 my mom, my mom's like, come, come back home when the streetlights come on. And then I ride my bike

01:15:43.000 and I'm gone. And I would ride around the neighborhood. And it's funny, as a little kid,

01:15:47.000 I remember, if I got too far from my house, I would start to feel worried.

01:15:53.000 I don't know what the right word is, but I'd be like, oh, I'm probably going a little too far.

01:15:57.000 I'm like, I'm at Cicero.

01:15:59.000 But that's a good sense for kids to develop, right?

01:16:01.000 Like, okay, maybe it's time to head back to the homestead.

01:16:03.000 But now, there's news reports where, like, someone got the police called on them because their kid was playing by themself in the front yard.

01:16:10.000 And then the police were like, what's going on?

01:16:12.000 They yelled at the parents.

01:16:13.000 I did want to say one thing.

01:16:14.000 You mentioned your boys running through the yard.

01:16:16.000 We were hanging out with some family friends over the holidays, and they have a young boy and a girl that are around a similar age.

01:16:22.000 The boy's a little older.

01:16:24.000 And we were talking about modern politics, and they were like, look, we didn't learn nothing about You know, like the gender stuff, we didn't need to, we had kids.

01:16:33.000 One day the boy started smashing things and the girl started trying to protect them from him.

01:16:38.000 And they were like, I don't know what to tell you, it just happened.

01:16:40.000 We didn't teach him to do it.

01:16:41.000 Yeah, we had an interesting insight into that because we had our first kids were boy and girl twins.

01:16:49.000 And they always had access to the same toys.

01:16:53.000 They were raised the same way in the same house.

01:16:55.000 And what do you know?

01:16:57.000 From a very young age, our daughter is going for the pink stuff and the dolls and brushing hair and stuff like that.

01:17:05.000 The boy never showed any interest in any of that.

01:17:07.000 He's breaking things.

01:17:08.000 He wants trucks.

01:17:10.000 When you see that play out in real life, and of course the left's answer as well, You socialized them into it.

01:17:16.000 You were telling your daughter from birth that she must play with dolls. 0.74

01:17:18.000 It's like, I never had to suggest it.

01:17:21.000 It's just, it's a natural instinct.

01:17:23.000 There was a study done, they studied like newborn infants, less than a day old.

01:17:28.000 And you know, immediately boys start tracking objects in the room.

01:17:32.000 They track like, you know, like the lights and like anything mechanical.

01:17:36.000 And girls are looking at faces. 0.79

01:17:38.000 You can't tell me you socialize a 24-hour-old infant to already have a preference.

01:17:43.000 It's just the way their brains work.

01:17:45.000 I feel like women make people and men make things, you know? 1.00

01:17:49.000 I mean, they're motivated differently.

01:17:50.000 That's why they work in harmony, you know?

01:17:52.000 That's good.

01:17:53.000 Yeah.

01:17:54.000 There was a funny video where this woman's crying and she's like, why won't boys think?

01:17:58.000 And it freezes and the guy goes, they do think that's why the ceiling fan above you.

01:18:01.000 Cause a man invented that.

01:18:02.000 That's why there's a stereo over on the wall.

01:18:04.000 Cause a man invented that.

01:18:05.000 And it's like showing the inventors of it.

01:18:07.000 But my, my view is like, yeah, guys are good at making things and women are, are the only ones who can make people. 1.00

01:18:13.000 You know, and that's probably why the female babies are tracking faces. 1.00

01:18:16.000 They're concerned more with humans.

01:18:19.000 And, you know, the sad thing is, I don't think there's anything wrong with... I'll put it this way.

01:18:27.000 There's a meme online of when a guy takes a photo of something, he takes a photo of something.

01:18:31.000 When a woman takes a photo of something, she takes a picture of herself in front of the thing, 1.00

01:18:36.000 and guys laugh about it, and a lot of women feel bad about it,

01:18:39.000 and I'm like, there's nothing to feel bad about.

01:18:40.000 Women care about people, guys care about things. 0.99

01:18:43.000 There's pros and there's cons to that.

01:18:44.000 It's just, men and women are complementary.

01:18:47.000 Yeah, I've always said that's one of the reasons why, you know, the cliche that women gossip more than men,

01:18:54.000 and I think that they certainly do, but I almost defend it, because I say,

01:18:59.000 well, the reason why women gossip a lot is because they care about what's happening 1.00

01:19:04.000 in the lives of people around them. 0.79

01:19:06.000 The reason I don't gossip is just because I don't give a damn.

01:19:09.000 Like, I don't, so when you.

01:19:10.000 You're not going to believe what happened with those two people.

01:19:13.000 I don't care.

01:19:14.000 I'm not taking a moral stand against it.

01:19:15.000 I just don't care what's happening with these people.

01:19:19.000 My wife very much cares about everything that's happening around her and all the people and everything.

01:19:22.000 Did you see that viral bit from a comedian where he's like...

01:19:26.000 Was hanging out with a good friend of mine.

01:19:28.000 He went through a divorce and hadn't heard from him in a while.

01:19:33.000 So he hits me up and he says, you wanna go golfing?

01:19:35.000 I said, sure.

01:19:36.000 And then he's like, when I come back, my wife says, so how is he?

01:19:39.000 And he goes, I don't know.

01:19:41.000 And she's like, well.

01:19:42.000 Yes, women recall the minute details of every conversation, the exact wording. 0.99

01:19:47.000 And it's like, how did she say it?

01:19:49.000 He goes, my wife then says, is he seeing anybody?

01:19:52.000 And he goes, Didn't come up and she's like you did you talk to him and he's like

01:19:58.000 Not really.

01:19:59.000 She's like, what were you doing?

01:20:00.000 Were you with him?

01:20:01.000 There's no understanding of the different ways that men and women bond with each other.

01:20:05.000 It's totally different.

01:20:06.000 And women didn't understand that when they started infiltrating male-only spaces. 1.00

01:20:12.000 They thought, we're not here because men are excluding us, but it's really like men need to build each other like that.

01:20:19.000 They need spaces like that.

01:20:21.000 And to relate the way that we relate.

01:20:25.000 I recently was home, back where I grew up, and I got together with some friends I've known since elementary school.

01:20:31.000 And it was a similar thing, because we all went out for drinks.

01:20:35.000 And a lot of these guys I haven't seen in, like, years.

01:20:37.000 And then I go home, and my wife's like, what's up? 0.95

01:20:39.000 What's going on in their lives?

01:20:41.000 I have no clue what's going on with any of them.

01:20:42.000 I don't know.

01:20:43.000 What did you talk about?

01:20:45.000 I'm genuinely curious, like, what came up?

01:20:48.000 We talked about Israel and Palestine.

01:20:51.000 We talked about a presidential election.

01:20:53.000 Rome!

01:20:54.000 We talked about football as a football season.

01:20:56.000 We talked about things that are happening in the world.

01:20:59.000 No one stopped and said, let me tell you what's going on in my life.

01:21:02.000 It never happened.

01:21:04.000 Nick Freitas was here.

01:21:05.000 Is it Freitas or Freitas?

01:21:06.000 Freitas, right?

01:21:07.000 Anyway, he's awesome.

01:21:08.000 a Virginia politician and we were talking about the difference in how men and women think,

01:21:14.000 you know, and women will be like, what are you thinking about? And then, you know, he, I forgot

01:21:18.000 how he said it, but it was really funny because he was like, well, sometimes it's just, it doesn't,

01:21:22.000 I'm not thinking about anything. And then they think that you're, you're upset or something.

01:21:25.000 It's like, no, it's, I'm thinking about how many exits are in this Walmart and how do I secure it

01:21:30.000 in the case of a zombie apocalypse? It's like, And I was like, yeah, I'm imagining weird stuff like that all the time.

01:21:37.000 It's totally meaningless, but it's also very much like that viral meme where the guy and the woman are walking through the building, and you see the guy's face, and he's like, I've got two exits to my left, one behind me, there's a guy over there, he's kind of sketchy, let's move a little bit to the left, and the woman is going, But she's like that because she's with someone she trusts, right?

01:21:57.000 Men and women are supposed to be complementary so that you can do different things.

01:22:01.000 If your wife goes out and is like, hey, it turns out this family's moving and that might change what's going on in our lives and whatever else, that's valuable information to know.

01:22:10.000 Obviously, there is bad gossip, but we want men and women to function differently so that they can cover a huge set of skills.

01:22:15.000 If they all do the same thing, number one, women end up unhappy and also society doesn't function as well. 1.00

01:22:20.000 Let's jump to this.

01:22:21.000 We'll do one more second here.

01:22:21.000 We got this from SCNR.

01:22:23.000 Target ditches Pride Month merchandise after last year's backlash.

01:22:28.000 Company refuses to say how many stores will no longer sell LGBTQ items.

01:22:32.000 The company announced May 9th that its Pride Month pair will be available online and only in select stores, based on historical sales performance.

01:22:39.000 This marks a shift from prior years, during which the LGBTQ merchandise was available at all stores.

01:22:44.000 Last spring, the company was forced to alter its marketing, excuse me, after facing national outrage.

01:22:49.000 over pride themed merchandise. Target also sold tuck friendly swimsuits. Yeah, we get it, you know,

01:22:55.000 given these volatile circumstances, we are making adjustments to our plans,

01:22:58.000 including removing items that have been at the center of the most significant confrontational

01:23:01.000 behavior. They say that the company which operates around 2000 stores moved pride displays from

01:23:07.000 entrances to in some stores around the US and place them in the back. This is a major boycott

01:23:11.000 victory. This is people walking into Target stores and seeing this tuck friendly stuff right there in

01:23:19.000 the front.

01:23:20.000 There was one story where a family had walked in, and they had kids with them, and they were immediately like, whoa!

01:23:25.000 Like, I don't want my kids seeing this.

01:23:28.000 And the kid having to ask, Mommy, what does Tuck mean?

01:23:30.000 And like, that's not something our kids are prepared to see, and we want to discuss with them.

01:23:35.000 So much like, you know, the Bud Light boycott, we're now seeing Target is backing off.

01:23:41.000 The boycotts are working.

01:23:42.000 And I know a lot of people are often dismayed.

01:23:44.000 They feel blackpilled.

01:23:45.000 They feel like we can't win and we can't have a more wholesome culture, but you can.

01:23:51.000 And the most amazing thing about this is it happened literally because people just paid attention.

01:23:57.000 It's a good news?

01:23:58.000 Yeah, paid attention.

01:23:59.000 And I think part of what conservatives have figured out how to do in the last year or two, it's very new in Target and Bud Light.

01:24:06.000 Of course, Bud Light's the number one victory.

01:24:09.000 But both of these together is that it's not even just a boycott.

01:24:13.000 Like a boycott is, OK, we're all going to agree not to buy this thing anymore.

01:24:18.000 And then boycotts event, most of them don't work and, but eventually they end and then, you know, you're back where you started.

01:24:23.000 Uh, but what's happened with target to a lesser extent, but like more so is that we actually have been able to.

01:24:32.000 It's like a branding.

01:24:34.000 We have rebranded what this company is in people's minds so that it's not even an effort to not purchase the product or not go there anymore.

01:24:42.000 I don't even want to.

01:24:44.000 It's not cool.

01:24:44.000 I don't want to be a part of that anymore.

01:24:46.000 It's just not part of my routine anymore.

01:24:50.000 So that even if they change their ways, I probably still won't use the product.

01:24:56.000 Oh, I agree.

01:24:57.000 If I'm looking up a store because I need to go buy a mop, I was talking about this earlier, I just don't go to the Target.

01:25:01.000 I'm just like, I don't even think about it. I don't care what their marketing is now.

01:25:04.000 You know, to a certain degree, though, there's the question of, do we completely abandon these

01:25:11.000 companies and say, we just don't want to deal with it? Or do we reward them if they do the

01:25:15.000 things we do want them to do? I think if you get an actual surrender, essentially, like if and Bud Light even, so it

01:25:26.000 has not done this, but if they come out and say, I apologize for doing that, we apologize, we

01:25:30.000 shouldn't have done that, we've committed, but that hasn't really happened with either one

01:25:34.000 I think we disagreed on that point and there was like a shadow debate where I said something like, Bud Light effectively giving up as an opportunity for us to declare victory and then use it something on your show where you're like, no, no, I disagree.

01:25:34.000 of these.

01:25:49.000 We have to push forward and refuse to buy their product.

01:25:53.000 My point was Even if they don't admit it, force them to just say, we won.

01:26:00.000 They're backing down.

01:26:00.000 Oh, we won.

01:26:00.000 Look at this.

01:26:01.000 They're sponsoring UFC.

01:26:02.000 That means we win.

01:26:03.000 Ha ha, we win.

01:26:04.000 Which puts pressure on the woke to have to have some kind of counter.

01:26:08.000 Otherwise that's it.

01:26:09.000 If there's no rebut, then it's ours.

01:26:12.000 But I definitely see, I think your point was more, you have to get the apology.

01:26:15.000 Otherwise they're getting a free pass or something like that.

01:26:17.000 Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting argument.

01:26:19.000 I could see the argument for it.

01:26:20.000 It's a strategy and it's all about the messaging.

01:26:29.000 A lot of it is, can you get that messaging to actually stick?

01:26:33.000 But I think that if you don't get some kind of actual acknowledgement from the company, Like, they've done what you asked, and they are telling you that they're doing what you asked, then I just don't think... I think that trying to declare victory will appear hollow.

01:26:51.000 Well, it's only a half victory if they're only removing the Pride merch from half of the stores, and probably only in red states.

01:26:57.000 And we don't even know how many.

01:26:58.000 We don't even know if it's half.

01:26:59.000 Yeah.

01:26:59.000 Right?

01:27:01.000 So, cause for optimism that this stuff does have an impact.

01:27:06.000 Because I see a lot of people saying that they tune out of the news, they're too pessimistic.

01:27:11.000 And I'm like, literally, look, you see the story about Target, Bud Light, and all that happens is, the next time you go to the liquor store, you go, eh, yingling, and you grab a different case.

01:27:19.000 Your day is not inconvenienced in any way.

01:27:21.000 In fact, I gotta say, if you're swapping Bud Light for yingling, your day has dramatically improved.

01:27:25.000 So it's good.

01:27:26.000 But this means that they see the negative sales, it forces them to do some kind of course correction, and simply by knowing, you're winning.

01:27:34.000 Voting with your dollars, voting with your feet.

01:27:36.000 That's one of the reasons why I shot at Public Square all the time, and we had Michael Seifried on just the other day.

01:27:41.000 You're familiar with Public Square?

01:27:43.000 Yep.

01:27:43.000 Fantastic.

01:27:44.000 Because you can just pull up the app and be like, I am buying from this company, I don't want to buy from that company.

01:27:49.000 I think that's the major effect of the Target boycotts in my mind, which is like, it broke the habit of going to Target for so many people, and it makes me wonder, like, instead of going to Target to get all the random things, did they start going to the local franchises of, you know, Ace Hardware or whatever it is, and that money comes back into the community faster than if you were to send it through, you know, the big corporate pipeline of Target or even Walmart.

01:28:11.000 Or did they go on Public Square?

01:28:13.000 Did they look up something local and start deciding, that's where I'm going to get this thing that I buy regularly from?

01:28:17.000 Because I think more than anything, once people stop going, like the idea that, oh, it's just Saturday and I'm going to go to Target and look around, like once they stopped doing that, that sort of consumerist habit goes away.

01:28:30.000 And that's what I think all of this ends up being about.

01:28:34.000 I think you're totally right. I don't think anyone could walk into a Target and even if they stopped

01:28:37.000 selling the Pride merch in every store and it was only online, I think people would always associate

01:28:42.000 it with this controversy and I think that's a big enough deal where they would just continue down

01:28:46.000 the path of moving away from it. And I think we're going to see the real evidence of victory once we

01:28:52.000 get to Pride Month because my prediction is this is going to be the most muted Pride Month that

01:28:57.000 we've seen in many years.

01:28:59.000 Because none of these companies, no matter what face they put on in public, none of them want to be the next Bud Light.

01:29:04.000 They don't want to have a target.

01:29:05.000 Especially during an election year?

01:29:06.000 During an election year.

01:29:07.000 It's not worth it to them.

01:29:08.000 It doesn't help their business.

01:29:09.000 And at the end of the day, these are businesses and they want to make money and that's what they care about most.

01:29:13.000 So I think this is going to be a very uninspired Pride Month this year, I think.

01:29:19.000 The election year being a major component because this is every political faction looking for any opportunity to score points with months leading up to the we're talking five months from the election.

01:29:33.000 They are going to outright just be like, shut up.

01:29:36.000 Every PAC is going to try and find an angle.

01:29:38.000 They're going to—you give them a controversy, you do some woke thing, every Republican PAC is going to be like, Joe Biden, woke.

01:29:46.000 Remember this?

01:29:46.000 Remember that?

01:29:47.000 Don't let that be you.

01:29:49.000 So the risk factor is amplified like a hundredfold in an election year, as opposed to two years ago.

01:29:55.000 Yeah, everyone messages differently during an election year, I think.

01:29:58.000 I mean, I think you'll see some brands sort of take it as a, well, we're going to try and be extra loud this Pride Month because, you know, the evil Republicans and religious people are coming after us.

01:30:07.000 But for the most part, everyone is going to not want to draw attention to themselves and become the brand in the middle of a debate.

01:30:14.000 Potentially, you know, the first debate between Trump and Biden is like June 27th.

01:30:18.000 So it's right at the end of Pride Month.

01:30:20.000 If anyone has any sort of viral moment, it's coming up during that debate.

01:30:24.000 Oh, wow.

01:30:25.000 Yeah, and it will probably be a question if it does happen.

01:30:29.000 You get a big Bud Light boycott moment, they will ask about it.

01:30:32.000 They wouldn't be able to avoid it.

01:30:35.000 That's going to be amazing.

01:30:37.000 Then, of course, following Pride Month, we have MAGA Month, which is July.

01:30:40.000 Do you observe MAGA Month in July?

01:30:44.000 What's the month?

01:30:45.000 It's July.

01:30:45.000 MAGA Month.

01:30:46.000 It's Make America Great Again Month.

01:30:48.000 Is that a thing now?

01:30:49.000 Yeah, you change your profile picture to an American flag.

01:30:51.000 Your companies have to do it, right?

01:30:54.000 Is that an actual thing we're trying to start?

01:30:56.000 It's been on for like two years.

01:30:57.000 It's never going to happen.

01:30:58.000 Two years ago, I jokingly said it's MAGA month and we all changed our profile pictures to the same thing with American flags.

01:31:04.000 A bunch of people did it too.

01:31:06.000 It's somewhat a joke.

01:31:10.000 Dude, have confidence.

01:31:12.000 It's a great idea.

01:31:13.000 I was just poking fun.

01:31:14.000 I'm like, if everyone was saying like, why is there a month dedicated to a small percent of people who have a certain predilection?

01:31:22.000 Like, if the argument is live and let live and do whatever you want, I don't see why we dedicate a corporate holiday month to this movement or whatever.

01:31:31.000 And then I'm just like, why don't we do it with the American flag?

01:31:34.000 It's the 4th of July.

01:31:35.000 It's the month where we celebrate the founding of this nation.

01:31:37.000 Let's give a whole month to celebrating freedom and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

01:31:40.000 So then shouldn't the response be like a straight month, straight pride month? 0.99

01:31:44.000 If you wanna start that, I think September's open, you can take that over.

01:31:46.000 We need to reject the category of straight. 0.99

01:31:49.000 We're just normal.

01:31:50.000 Exactly, I agree.

01:31:51.000 And that's why I thought- Normal Pride Month. 0.84

01:31:54.000 Well, but this is why I thought MAGA Month was- instead of being reactionary, where it's like, you did a thing and we're gonna point you out, totally ignore them and do our thing.

01:32:04.000 So...

01:32:05.000 If you did a straight Pride Month, you're basically saying we acknowledge you and what you've done, and now we are going to try and restart. 0.91

01:32:10.000 We don't need to.

01:32:11.000 We don't need to.

01:32:12.000 I mean, what I'd really like to see is that every month is just the month that it is.

01:32:17.000 We don't need, we don't need, I'd like to have no special months at all.

01:32:20.000 Every, you know, the funny thing is like every month is like 15 different things now.

01:32:24.000 Yeah.

01:32:24.000 It's like June is Pride Month, but then there's like, there's, there's... Juneteenth in the middle of it.

01:32:28.000 Right, exactly.

01:32:29.000 And then, uh, uh, what was it like, what, what, February is, is, is Black History Month, right?

01:32:35.000 There's a month, but February is also like four different things.

01:32:39.000 There's like International Women's Month or something, I don't know.

01:32:42.000 Is it March?

01:32:42.000 That's March.

01:32:43.000 And the LGBT have, they have A holiday every month.

01:32:46.000 They're very, very busy.

01:32:48.000 See, that's what I'm saying.

01:32:49.000 We should just make American holidays.

01:32:51.000 So June 7th is American Exceptionalism Month.

01:32:57.000 Day.

01:32:58.000 And September... Look, June 6th is the anniversary of D-Day.

01:33:01.000 We could just mark all kinds of things.

01:33:03.000 We have tons of history.

01:33:04.000 We have tons of holidays.

01:33:05.000 I personally like Christmas, Easter, all good times.

01:33:08.000 I don't think we need to make new ones.

01:33:10.000 Well, the reason why I said, like, part of the idea behind MAGA month Is because- First of all, it's disturbing me.

01:33:17.000 MAGA.

01:33:18.000 You keep saying MAGA.

01:33:19.000 MAGA.

01:33:19.000 Is it pronounced MAGA?

01:33:20.000 It's definitely MAGA.

01:33:21.000 Okay, fine.

01:33:21.000 MAGA month.

01:33:22.000 You got me.

01:33:23.000 Okay, MAGA month.

01:33:24.000 Do people say MAGA?

01:33:25.000 Somebody play Donald Trump saying it right now.

01:33:27.000 How does Trump say it?

01:33:30.000 I don't know.

01:33:30.000 I can hear him saying MAGA.

01:33:31.000 I'm gonna look it up.

01:33:32.000 Maybe he says it kind of bold so you can't really win the argument.

01:33:35.000 No, my idea was, we as the culture of this country Need to establish and embolden the culture of this country.

01:33:44.000 The woke, they're making up holidays left and right, they're making up boards left and right, and they're forcing companies to adhere to it because they are trying to indoctrinate.

01:33:53.000 The response isn't to be like, yeah, well, we'll have a straight flag.

01:33:56.000 It's to be like America, because we are America.

01:33:59.000 We've been America.

01:34:00.000 We could do family month, the celebration of the nuclear family week, those kinds of things.

01:34:05.000 I think those are fantastic.

01:34:07.000 And make it less about acknowledging and reacting to them and more about asserting what we are and what we do care about.

01:34:13.000 Free speech month!

01:34:15.000 August is free speech month.

01:34:19.000 Have you heard of the First Amendment?

01:34:22.000 Maybe Leap Day.

01:34:23.000 That's a good day for it.

01:34:24.000 It's where you say things that are shockingly offensive, but it's all taken tongue-in-cheek, you know?

01:34:29.000 Like April Fool's Day.

01:34:30.000 And that doesn't really mean anything, but Leap Day is the day where nothing counts.

01:34:33.000 So you're supposed to have free speech and say whatever you want, and no one's supposed to be able to get offended by it.

01:34:42.000 You are on to something though in a magamonthomy.

01:34:43.000 I could go along with that.

01:34:45.000 Actually restoring some sense of actual patriotism in the country and like making it okay to say that you are actually proud of, not only proud of your country, but it's history, you know, that we've gotten to the point where that is.

01:34:59.000 It's controversial to be proud of the history of your own country.

01:35:03.000 Even for a lot of so-called conservatives, they won't go that far.

01:35:05.000 Or at least they'll feel like they have to qualify it and say, well, yeah, I'm proud of that.

01:35:08.000 But, you know, slavery was really bad and colonialism is a terrible thing.

01:35:13.000 What about a colonizer pride month? 0.99

01:35:14.000 You were arguing with people on Twitter about Indian reservations.

01:35:19.000 Yeah, that's a hobby horse of mine is to go after the Indians. 1.00

01:35:25.000 No, I mean, look, Yes, colonize a pride month and colonization can be a great thing for the world. 1.00

01:35:35.000 Like we would not live, none of the things that we love about living our lives we would have without colonization.

01:35:41.000 And this is why it always annoys me when people talk about You know, the plight of the natives in this country.

01:35:49.000 Well, it's like, what would you have preferred to have happen?

01:35:52.000 Like, do you, would you have preferred it?

01:35:54.000 Do you think it'd be better if the tide of civilization had just stopped at the Atlantic and no one had ever come to this hemisphere? 0.92

01:36:03.000 And so that this North and South America forever are 5,000 years behind living in the Stone Age.

01:36:10.000 First of all, is that even practical?

01:36:11.000 Is that a practical thing to expect to have happened?

01:36:14.000 Would Central America be medieval at this point?

01:36:14.000 That's kind of wild.

01:36:20.000 Most of these societies, when I say they were 5,000 years behind, they quite literally were 5,000 years behind, or longer than that.

01:36:26.000 They hadn't invented the wheel.

01:36:28.000 They didn't have a written language.

01:36:29.000 They didn't have any conception of laws, really, in a lot of these societies.

01:36:33.000 They had no governments.

01:36:34.000 They had nothing.

01:36:34.000 They were living like people lived 5,000, 10,000 years ago.

01:36:39.000 It's fascinating.

01:36:39.000 I was reading a few different essays, articles about why that was, and population density and landmass, they believe, played a huge role.

01:36:51.000 More conflict in Europe led to negotiating diplomacy, forced technological progression, militarism, farming technologies due to, again, population density and a lack of space.

01:37:04.000 And then in the Americas, it was very, very sparsely populated.

01:37:09.000 And so any conflict could be resolved by simply moving.

01:37:11.000 And so the pressure on those in this atmosphere was very much walk away and continue to live off the land, where in Europe you're on a large peninsula and it's defend the land or die.

01:37:25.000 And I think that's an interesting theory, but also the population density only goes to show the absurdity of this idea that we stole the land.

01:37:32.000 Because, like, the idea that if you had one tribe living in thousands of square miles of wilderness, the idea that they owned it and that no one else was allowed to come is just absurd.

01:37:44.000 It's ridiculous.

01:37:45.000 Because when the settlers came here, most of the country there was nobody living in. 0.55

01:37:50.000 It was just most of the country was empty wilderness.

01:37:53.000 Those are two important factors that are not really PC to talk about, but IQ differentials and Christianity.

01:38:02.000 Those are two things that were on the European side.

01:38:06.000 That's a big reason.

01:38:09.000 I think the most important factor is the accumulation of information passed down over generations, which is written language.

01:38:15.000 And so a guy could write a book on how to make gunpowder or something, hand it to his kid, and then forever now you have this military might that the people in the Western Hemisphere can't compete with.

01:38:26.000 But, but, we do gotta go to Super Chats.

01:38:28.000 We should definitely talk about this on the Uncensored Members Only Show.

01:38:31.000 It'll be a lot of fun.

01:38:32.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com.

01:38:39.000 We'll carry over that conversation in the Uncensored Show, which we'll have members call in, but for now we'll read some Super Chats.

01:38:46.000 Alright.

01:38:47.000 Jungle Run says, everyone have a backup plan?

01:38:49.000 This is mine.

01:38:50.000 And then he posted coordinates.

01:38:51.000 I don't know what those coordinates are, so hopefully it's family friendly.

01:38:54.000 Uh, no Clint today, but token black guy says, howdy people. 0.99

01:38:58.000 Howdy.

01:38:59.000 Let's go.

01:39:01.000 Shane H. Wilder says, good evening Tim, Mary, Matt, Ian, Serge, and the rest of the gang.

01:39:05.000 The reason Biden doesn't want an audience, yeah, doesn't want an audience at the debate is he doesn't want Corn Pop showing up.

01:39:11.000 I heard he was a bad dude.

01:39:13.000 I thought Biden took care of Corn Pop.

01:39:15.000 I thought he's not scared of him because he handled it.

01:39:18.000 I still think the story was that Biden was creeping on kids, because he tells that story where the kids would rub his legs.

01:39:23.000 And Corn Pop was probably a dude being like, yo, man, get away from those kids.

01:39:26.000 And then Biden was like, hey, you back off and swung a chain at him.

01:39:30.000 I think that sounds more realistic.

01:39:32.000 Do they get to bring chains to the debate? 0.99

01:39:33.000 Because I'm interested then.

01:39:35.000 That seems like it would be more entertaining.

01:39:36.000 Could you imagine if... What did Joe Biden say?

01:39:38.000 That they would put the straight razor in the... They would pet his leg hair, right?

01:39:43.000 Oh, he said the kids would rub his legs.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, I forgot about that.

01:39:46.000 That's crazy.

01:39:48.000 Anyway, debate rule. 0.98

01:39:50.000 No one gets to wear shorts.

01:39:52.000 All right, let's go.

01:39:53.000 The emperor's champion says CNN has been critical of Biden lately.

01:39:56.000 Could this debate be an attempt to convince the DNC that Biden doesn't have a brain to go with brain and go with someone else?

01:40:03.000 I don't know.

01:40:04.000 I feel like the debate once he does it.

01:40:06.000 That's it.

01:40:07.000 He's the nominee.

01:40:08.000 Yeah, I don't think they have any kind of secret plan like that.

01:40:11.000 I think a lot of the power brokers in the Democratic Party right now are just saying to themselves, well, Biden's going to lose, and so we just have to get to work undermining Trump for four years.

01:40:20.000 And they're probably not as worried about a Trump presidency, some of these guys, as we might think they are, because they know that they own the federal government, and they are going to plan on doing what they did the first time.

01:40:30.000 And I don't think the networks would have gone without a debate, right?

01:40:34.000 Even if not as many people tune in every year, They still make money off of it.

01:40:38.000 They want there to be a presidential debate.

01:40:39.000 That's how, you know, all of them end up getting some sort of four-year bump every cycle.

01:40:47.000 All right.

01:40:47.000 What do we got here?

01:40:49.000 Mr. Taserface, good name, says, Hey, Tim, I always love your vids.

01:40:52.000 Have you heard of the Empire of Terror show on Daily Wire?

01:40:56.000 It's really interesting that the Soviet Union's cruelty is almost never mentioned these days.

01:41:00.000 Are you familiar with that show?

01:41:01.000 I have no idea.

01:41:03.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:41:07.000 Yeah, I will highly recommend it.

01:41:10.000 I'm biased, though.

01:41:12.000 What's the general premise?

01:41:13.000 I haven't watched it.

01:41:14.000 About the Soviet Union, though, I imagine?

01:41:15.000 Yeah, I haven't actually watched it.

01:41:17.000 Well, there you go.

01:41:17.000 I was hoping you wouldn't follow up and ask me questions about it, but you did.

01:41:21.000 But I do know that it's good.

01:41:22.000 All right, well, there you go.

01:41:24.000 I believe you.

01:41:24.000 Uh-oh.

01:41:27.000 Questionable Content says, now that he's here again, I better hear Tim talk anime with Matt.

01:41:32.000 I know he would love Attack on Titan's take on racial politics.

01:41:36.000 Yeah, so what's your view on anime that comes up all the time?

01:41:40.000 Yeah, infamously I once declared that anime is satanic.

01:41:45.000 And everyone knows that everything I say is 100% serious.

01:41:47.000 I never deploy any sarcasm whatsoever, so clearly I meant that quite literally.

01:41:52.000 What's the percent then?

01:41:53.000 If you didn't mean 100, what, like 95%?

01:41:53.000 What, 95% satanic?

01:41:54.000 Yeah.

01:41:57.000 Yeah, it's at least 75% satanic.

01:42:00.000 But there's a 25% that isn't.

01:42:00.000 I don't know.

01:42:02.000 I did actually sit and watch an anime.

01:42:06.000 It was the One Punch Man.

01:42:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:12.000 Yeah.

01:42:13.000 That's a good one. 0.94

01:42:14.000 It's silly.

01:42:15.000 It's fun, though.

01:42:16.000 Yeah, it's just... I think they wanted you to watch the serious ones.

01:42:19.000 Yeah, like Attack on Titan, you'd actually really enjoy.

01:42:22.000 I hated Attack on Titan.

01:42:22.000 What a serious cartoon.

01:42:24.000 So, Attack on Titan, I'm gonna spoil it.

01:42:26.000 I'm just gonna spoil it.

01:42:27.000 So bad.

01:42:28.000 Because I don't really expect you to watch the full thing.

01:42:30.000 It's about... I'll give you the really simple version.

01:42:35.000 On the surface, it's about gigantic monsters that eat people.

01:42:38.000 The actual politics of it is, thousands of years ago, a group of people had a power over everyone else and ruled over them with an iron fist.

01:42:46.000 For this, the people of the world, like the king basically said, we are an evil, evil group of people who subjugated the world, so we must be punished for what we've done, isolates them on an island, and the rest of the world is Basically saying, you're genetically this, so you're bad.

01:43:03.000 And they're on this isolated island, basically, which is a permanent prison camp for the crimes of their ancestors.

01:43:08.000 So it actually is an interesting premise.

01:43:11.000 However, it's a pretty weird show where there are giant monsters.

01:43:13.000 Bad execution.

01:43:16.000 Aren't they all weird?

01:43:16.000 Aren't all?

01:43:17.000 Because I'll say One Punch Man had moments where I didn't hate it as much as I hated it all the other moments.

01:43:25.000 But it did feel very weird.

01:43:27.000 There's just a weird vibe.

01:43:28.000 It's like a parody of anime in and of itself.

01:43:31.000 But I think people wanted you to watch Fullmetal Alchemist.

01:43:33.000 I think.

01:43:35.000 I'm just relaying information.

01:43:37.000 But don't watch Attack on Titan.

01:43:38.000 It was horrible.

01:43:38.000 I was forced to watch it.

01:43:40.000 What's the best anime of all time?

01:43:42.000 Sailor Moon.

01:43:43.000 I'm kidding.

01:43:43.000 Well, that's not an answer.

01:43:45.000 It's like saying, what's the best TV show of all time?

01:43:47.000 is a dragon ball z dragon ball mon not pokemon pokemon is like the blues clues of anime right

01:43:55.000 when you're a little kid it's like if you like watching dog fights i guess for kids dragon ball

01:43:59.000 z is probably the most popular there's a lupin the third which is one of the most popular but

01:44:05.000 that's not really as big as in america you go to japan there will be lupin goku uh dragon ball z

01:44:11.000 the dragon ball arc it's dragon ball dragon ball z there's a bunch of different shows the thing

01:44:15.000 about uh dragon ball is that it's a super it's a japanese superhero show it's like saying watch

01:44:20.000 superman so sure if you like superman for adults uh for for people who are interested in more

01:44:26.000 more mature shows there's a full metal alchemist There's two arcs.

01:44:31.000 There's the anime arc and the manga arc.

01:44:32.000 So basically what happens is, in Japan, someone makes a comic book, a graphic novel.

01:44:36.000 It gets licensed into a TV show.

01:44:38.000 For this series, halfway through the graphic novel, the writer went on hiatus.

01:44:44.000 So the animated version went on and carried on the story in their own vision.

01:44:48.000 The general premise in both is corrupt government conspiracy to sacrifice people to empower the government.

01:44:55.000 It's an interesting premise.

01:44:58.000 Have you watched NGE?

01:45:01.000 I'm not sure how to pronounce it.

01:45:03.000 It's Neon Genesis Evangelion.

01:45:06.000 I think a lot of people watching this would be screaming that they want you to watch that right now.

01:45:10.000 Are you guys all anime fans?

01:45:12.000 I'm not a weeb.

01:45:14.000 I would probably argue that I think most anime is bad.

01:45:18.000 It just is a handful of really good ones.

01:45:20.000 Death Note is probably considered to be- So you're saying most anime is bad?

01:45:23.000 I say things like that, and they want to stone me to death for it.

01:45:26.000 You were very obviously joking if we're talking about the same video of you responding to the question, right?

01:45:32.000 It was pretty obvious that you were joking, but- I like the idea that you were serious better.

01:45:35.000 I feel like that's more funny.

01:45:36.000 All jokes aside, you were right.

01:45:38.000 You might like Death Note.

01:45:39.000 Why was I?

01:45:40.000 Death Note is considered one of the best of all time.

01:45:43.000 It's about a high school student who finds a notebook laying on the ground.

01:45:47.000 Death gods, shinigami is the Japanese word for grim reaper, one of them is bored.

01:45:53.000 They live in an extra planet dimension where they write down the names of people to kill them, and the remaining years of that person are added to the lifespans of these death gods.

01:46:01.000 One of them is bored because he's immortal and he's lived for eons, so he drops the book in the human world to see what happens.

01:46:07.000 And a high school student finds the book, reads the rules, and decides he's going to start mass-executing all of the criminals from all the jails and everything around the world to send a message to the world that there is a defined power that will punish those who do evil.

01:46:21.000 That's pretty cool.

01:46:24.000 That is what I would do with the book also.

01:46:26.000 So what ends up happening is, the simple version is Interpol trying, he intentionally kills

01:46:33.000 people in a way that you can see a pattern.

01:46:36.000 So he could write down in the book a person dies because a rock hits them in the head

01:46:39.000 and they fall and gets hit by a car.

01:46:42.000 He chooses to give no description, which defaults to heart attack.

01:46:46.000 Generic, just you just die.

01:46:47.000 When people start realizing that criminals all over are just dropping dead, dying suddenly, they realize this is an intentional act targeting specifically criminals that are named in the news.

01:46:58.000 So there's a detective who tries to hunt him down, basically filling in the holes and setting traps to make him take actions.

01:47:05.000 And the show is basically a game of cat and mouse between a man who's trying to excise the world of criminals and the detective trying to stop them.

01:47:13.000 There's interesting moral philosophies in it, too, in that the detective believes that you can't just arbitrarily kill people, whereas the high school student who throughout the show gets older, believes that because these

01:47:24.000 systems let the criminals go, they continue to victimize people and the system never

01:47:28.000 fixes itself. You might enjoy that.

01:47:30.000 I, it's an interesting plot. I just don't know why they couldn't make it with real people.

01:47:36.000 That's my main- that's the main thing.

01:47:38.000 I can't- why did you have to do it as a cartoon?

01:47:40.000 Do it as- do it with people.

01:47:42.000 They did.

01:47:42.000 It's not good.

01:47:43.000 Oh.

01:47:44.000 You know?

01:47:44.000 Yeah, but that was after the fact.

01:47:46.000 I know, I know.

01:47:46.000 Netflix was responsible for that.

01:47:47.000 I guess some of the special effects of like, you know, the interdimensions and stuff like that, like, you might be able to depict it more accurately to the way you're imagining if you can draw it out and CGI or whatever else might look weird.

01:47:59.000 I'm willing to consider the possibility.

01:48:00.000 There might be something wrong in my brain, but I can't.

01:48:04.000 Cartoons, I just can't get into them.

01:48:07.000 Except for Mr. Berkshire on Daily Wire Plus.

01:48:09.000 It's a great cartoon.

01:48:12.000 I also feel the same way about musicals.

01:48:13.000 When they start singing, it takes me out of it.

01:48:15.000 I can't get into it anymore.

01:48:17.000 I don't know.

01:48:18.000 I'm very literal minded.

01:48:18.000 I don't know.

01:48:19.000 So one thing I would say for kids, like when I was younger, the anime that I watched and the reason why it's so popular is the through line for most of the most popular shows is a kid with no natural talent who knows that in order to be the best, he has to work as hard as possible to earn his place.

01:48:37.000 So, Pokemon did this miserably.

01:48:39.000 First of all, Pokemon's a weird show.

01:48:41.000 It's where they dogfight, basically.

01:48:42.000 And the kid, Ash, loses every single time.

01:48:45.000 But a few examples are... My Hero Academia is popular right now with, like, teenagers and young people.

01:48:52.000 Naruto was huge.

01:48:53.000 That story, that whole anime ended, and they're doing a continuation.

01:48:57.000 And then you have Black Clover.

01:48:58.000 The general premise... 0.83

01:49:00.000 Naruto, a kid who's a loser and is made fun of, wants to be effectively the president.

01:49:04.000 He wants to be the greatest warrior. 0.99

01:49:05.000 He's a ninja.

01:49:06.000 And he struggles and works as hard as possible with no natural talent, is made fun of and ridiculed, but he never gives up and eventually becomes the best.

01:49:14.000 Black Clover is a kid who's born with no magic powers in a world of magic.

01:49:17.000 So he trains himself to become as physically powerful as possible.

01:49:21.000 And then my favorite point of that story is when he enters the magical tournament.

01:49:25.000 They are mocking him, like, you're weak, you have no magic, and then he's so fast and strong that he knocks a guy out in a single punch, and then proving that you don't need to be, you know, that you can earn your place, you can work hard to accomplish it.

01:49:37.000 I love that.

01:49:38.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 Someone told me to recommend Peppa Pig.

01:49:42.000 Alright, anyway, like, the chat's blowing up, people being like, watch this, watch that.

01:49:45.000 This is the longest I've ever talked about anime in my life.

01:49:48.000 And it will be the last time.

01:49:49.000 Me too.

01:49:49.000 Yeah, probably.

01:49:50.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:49:53.000 Roberts Krivets says, Hey Tim, been watching since the beginning.

01:49:58.000 My wife and I, trying to get pregnant, have to do IUI.

01:50:02.000 Can you please shout out our Give, Send, Go?

01:50:05.000 Is it IUI?

01:50:07.000 Just searched, trying to start a family.

01:50:08.000 Thanks on Give, Send, Go.

01:50:10.000 Best of luck.

01:50:11.000 Best of luck.

01:50:13.000 What is IUI?

01:50:14.000 Interuterine Insemination. 0.70

01:50:16.000 Ah, okay.

01:50:17.000 I was wondering if I was getting it wrong because I wasn't familiar.

01:50:20.000 Is that IVF basically?

01:50:21.000 No.

01:50:21.000 I mean, there are like some fertility drugs involved, but it's just like putting sperm into the uterus instead of conceiving outside in like a petri dish.

01:50:33.000 You'll like this one, Matt.

01:50:34.000 We get a lot of superchats like this.

01:50:35.000 Tyler Reed says, Just started induction at the hospital with our first baby.

01:50:39.000 Only two genders, not sure which one, but we're listening to IRL as we wait for the baby to arrive.

01:50:44.000 In honor of IRL, we're naming the baby... Tim Philhanna... Cross Koglanski.

01:50:53.000 Look, I'm just telling you, double names are really difficult for American society, so you may want to reconsider.

01:50:57.000 That's that tupple name. 0.72

01:50:58.000 This is their first kid?

01:51:01.000 Someone last week sent a similar superchat.

01:51:01.000 Yeah, I believe.

01:51:04.000 He's like, my wife is being a deuce right now.

01:51:06.000 We've gotten superchats like that on pop culture too.

01:51:09.000 I'm super chatting, as my wife is in labor, I'm like, maybe you should leave.

01:51:12.000 Maybe you should just go attend to that.

01:51:14.000 Sometimes laborers take a long time.

01:51:16.000 You're both listening.

01:51:18.000 A lot of, we get a lot of super chats from people who are like, you know, my first kid is on the way and expected tonight or tomorrow.

01:51:24.000 Thank you.

01:51:24.000 Really excited.

01:51:25.000 Well, it's nice of that guy to be, you know, in the room with his wife.

01:51:28.000 I, for my wife's births, I was, I went to the smoking room and I said, I'll check back when the baby's born.

01:51:33.000 Had a cigar, some whiskey.

01:51:36.000 Manly.

01:51:37.000 I didn't actually do that, but that's the way they used to, back in the day, that's the way it was done.

01:51:41.000 Maybe she wanted you not to be there though.

01:51:43.000 Like, and that's her. 0.74

01:51:44.000 She's like, you're a fainter. 0.94

01:51:45.000 Get out of here.

01:51:46.000 You know, I think it could work for everybody.

01:51:48.000 Shane H. Wilder says, I would say that any good Catholic man would have an opinion about abortion and despise the practice.

01:51:53.000 Uh, what does it say?

01:51:55.000 Nice... I-churro-tat-mat? 0.94

01:51:58.000 What does that say?

01:51:58.000 I'm not sure what that word is.

01:52:00.000 Cairo, is that what it is?

01:52:00.000 Cairo.

01:52:01.000 Okay, it's like an R and it was broke up.

01:52:03.000 Yeah, it's an ancient Christian symbol.

01:52:05.000 Is RFK Catholic? 0.65

01:52:07.000 I mean, hypothetically all the Kennedys are.

01:52:08.000 I know he's a Kennedy, but again, hypothetically all the Kennedys are.

01:52:10.000 I don't think... In name, in name only.

01:52:12.000 But I wouldn't even... Is Trump even a practicing Christian?

01:52:16.000 He attends services.

01:52:17.000 I think he said before.

01:52:18.000 I think he would say that he is.

01:52:20.000 Yeah.

01:52:21.000 Yeah.

01:52:23.000 You know, she's Catholic.

01:52:26.000 Yeah, I believe that.

01:52:27.000 Yeah, like Biden.

01:52:28.000 I don't believe is Catholic.

01:52:29.000 He's no, no, he's not right.

01:52:31.000 Yeah, that's no, I mean, you can't he expressly denies the church's moral authority on a whole host of issues, which means you literally can't be Catholic and do that.

01:52:41.000 So That would disqualify a lot of Catholics. 0.88

01:52:45.000 Right.

01:52:45.000 And it does, yeah.

01:52:47.000 Let's see.

01:52:48.000 What do we have?

01:52:49.000 I'm trying to find a—here we go.

01:52:51.000 Monk in Training says, I'm an Orthodox Jew.

01:52:53.000 How is this anti-Semitism bill legal?

01:52:55.000 It's the biggest black pill for me and will cause more anti-Semitism and possibly a catastrophic undesirable event for Jews in America.

01:53:02.000 Daylight and truth beats hate. 0.99

01:53:05.000 I think it's a ridiculous idea.

01:53:07.000 And you're seeing a lot of people online trying to use it to justify their conspiracy theories. 0.97

01:53:14.000 It's a terrible idea and it shouldn't have happened.

01:53:15.000 I think the question is, why did so many people vote in favor of it?

01:53:18.000 Like, are they afraid of being labeled as anti-Semitic?

01:53:21.000 Because it's not legal, per se.

01:53:22.000 Like, it hasn't been passed by the Senate.

01:53:24.000 It hypothetically could die.

01:53:26.000 It doesn't necessarily become law.

01:53:27.000 But the question is, like, why did enough people in Congress either read that definition and think, great, no problem, or did they just not read it?

01:53:35.000 Does that mean that they're awful at their jobs?

01:53:38.000 I think it's a combination of the two.

01:53:41.000 The black pill part of it has been the number of Republicans, as you pointed out, that have gotten on board with this.

01:53:45.000 Not just, by the way, because there's the federal level.

01:53:49.000 This law that we talked about, but on the state level, there have been similar measures and that often go back to this, whatever it is, the Holocaust, International Holocaust Society, whatever the group is.

01:54:00.000 Yeah.

01:54:01.000 Holocaust Remembrance or something.

01:54:03.000 Right.

01:54:03.000 Like that's of the many appalling aspects of this, that's maybe the most appalling is that this organization is like an intergovernmental agency.

01:54:12.000 And we're allowing them to set the terms for our laws.

01:54:15.000 Basically, we are farming this out to other governments, giving them influence over our laws.

01:54:23.000 One of the examples of anti-Semitism that this organization gives Has to do with making criticisms of the state of Israel.

01:54:31.000 Right.

01:54:31.000 And then Israel itself is in this organization.

01:54:34.000 So it's sort of like Israel has a hand in saying that it's illegal to criticize them.

01:54:41.000 It's absurd.

01:54:42.000 There was a tweet from Ben.

01:54:44.000 He was criticizing it, saying this is the last thing we need.

01:54:46.000 Like, you know, another attack on free speech.

01:54:50.000 I retweeted that.

01:54:51.000 There was something maybe from you or whatever.

01:54:54.000 And the generic responses from people were, It didn't even matter what Ben said.

01:55:00.000 No matter what he said, they assumed it was the opposite because they just don't like Jews.

01:55:05.000 Uh, that's why it's funny when, when I, when this law was first, uh, when they were the news, this law first broke and I, I came out against it really strong, very strongly.

01:55:15.000 And then of course, all the responses to me were wait till Ben, wait till Ben Shapiro.

01:55:19.000 Here's your take on this.

01:55:20.000 He's not going to be happy.

01:55:22.000 It's like, you know, not that we, we didn't have any conversation about what my take on it is, but it didn't surprise me when he came out a day later and was like, yeah, I'm against it too.

01:55:31.000 It's a basic free, it's a basic free speech thing.

01:55:33.000 It's kind of wild because I think a lot of people don't actually watch the content, especially like backstage, because I saw clips from, it was like you, Jeremy, Ben, and others were talking about Israel and these issues, and it was like a nuanced discussion with varying opinions.

01:55:45.000 But the assumption is that if like, it doesn't happen, The Daily Wire doesn't have any, like no matter what, it's always going to be pro-Israel no matter what happens, even if it's the antisemitism bill.

01:55:55.000 Yeah, and my take on all this, and I'm very non-interventionist.

01:56:01.000 People call me isolationist.

01:56:03.000 I'll take that label, I suppose.

01:56:05.000 It's always been my view, and I've argued about it.

01:56:09.000 We've debated this, as you say, on air many times.

01:56:12.000 It's the crazy thing because on this show we've actually argued, and like, I've gotten heated and pissed about the US, you know, building that dock off of that pier in Gaza, which is an invasion. 0.60

01:56:23.000 It's a beachhead.

01:56:24.000 I don't care what anyone else wants to call it.

01:56:25.000 We shouldn't be involved.

01:56:27.000 I don't see why we're funding foreign wars.

01:56:29.000 I don't know that I would say isolationist, but my attitude is before we spend money literally anywhere else, we can secure our borders, we can fix our roads, we can build our bridges.

01:56:37.000 And I still get people claiming that I'm wanting to fund Israel.

01:56:40.000 It makes literally no sense.

01:56:44.000 Yeah, I mean, countries have the right to defend themselves.

01:56:48.000 And so, you know, and the other thing, too, is that it's sort of the law of the land, the law of conquest, sort of which supersedes all everything else, just sort of because it's the reality of things, which is that if you want to exist as a country, you have to be able to defend yourself.

01:57:07.000 You have the right to defend yourself.

01:57:09.000 If you can't defend yourself, you're not going to exist as a country anymore.

01:57:13.000 And so that process should be allowed to play out.

01:57:16.000 As America, we don't have to be the arbiters over which country wins and which country loses.

01:57:22.000 I'm a terrible voice actor.

01:57:24.000 I am so bad.

01:57:25.000 Yeah, I'm terrible there, too.

01:57:26.000 I'm really, really bad at voice acting.

01:57:27.000 You think it's easy to do because it's just your voice?

01:57:29.000 pitch the idea to Seamus, any more voice acting on the horizon?

01:57:32.000 I'm a terrible voice actor. I am so bad.

01:57:34.000 You're in Chip Chilla.

01:57:35.000 Yeah, I'm terrible there too.

01:57:36.000 Oh wow.

01:57:37.000 I'm really, really bad at voice acting. It's actually, you think it's easy to do because

01:57:41.000 it's just your voice. At least I thought it would be easy.

01:57:44.000 But then when you're sitting in the room and, you know, in the little box and you're

01:57:47.000 reading the lines, you see that there's some real nuance to being a good voice actor.

01:57:52.000 Yeah.

01:57:52.000 And I just don't, I don't have it.

01:57:53.000 And you need a director.

01:57:55.000 Like, I've explained this because I'm the voice of Dr. Fauci on Freedom Tunes.

01:57:59.000 And so Seamus can send me a script.

01:58:02.000 And it's just text on a page.

01:58:05.000 And if the line is something like, um, you don't need to wear two masks.

01:58:08.000 You don't need to be wearing two masks!

01:58:11.000 That's how I do it.

01:58:12.000 And then Seamus goes, actually, the way he's saying it is he's panicked, and he's pulling on his, you know, his shirt as he's sweating.

01:58:19.000 So you just say it more like, and then he tells me what to do, and then I just try to imitate his vision of it.

01:58:24.000 Yeah.

01:58:25.000 It's actually...

01:58:27.000 Like, you don't just read the lines and then you're done?

01:58:28.000 Yeah, I will say that, of course, Bertram and Chip Chilla both had very good directors, and they were in the room working with me.

01:58:35.000 It's like, no, this is the inspiration.

01:58:37.000 This is what you're supposed to do.

01:58:40.000 And I did it over and over and over again.

01:58:42.000 But every time I read the line, it sounded exactly the same as the time before.

01:58:46.000 And because they do one, it's like, okay, do one where it sounds like you're scared.

01:58:50.000 And then I do it.

01:58:50.000 And okay, on this one, you're happy.

01:58:52.000 And I do it the same again.

01:58:53.000 So it would it's right.

01:58:56.000 It's it's it's you, though.

01:58:57.000 It's like what you'd expect of Matt Walsh, you know, like, yeah, you have that.

01:59:01.000 That's how you are.

01:59:01.000 Maybe they just have to write your emotions into these things and you would be yourself.

01:59:05.000 Because I have no emotions.

01:59:06.000 I'm a robot.

01:59:09.000 We'll grab we'll grab a couple more.

01:59:11.000 Um, we got, we got another anime one.

01:59:13.000 ChickenLady1980 says, Tim is like the brother I never had and Matt is like the dad I never had.

01:59:18.000 This is the crossover episode I've been waiting for.

01:59:21.000 Tim, isn't it a shame Matt feels the way he does about anime?

01:59:24.000 Sorry, sweet Daddy Walsh, I had to do it.

01:59:27.000 Well, we just, we dedicated ten minutes to talking about anime, so we can move on from that one.

01:59:31.000 People must love it though when people they follow from different platforms sort of merge together and they get to see them interact.

01:59:37.000 It's sort of a worlds colliding type moment.

01:59:41.000 But you've been on the show before, right?

01:59:42.000 I've been on a couple times, yeah.

01:59:46.000 Oh wait, what is this?

01:59:47.000 Aris Royce says, too bad Tim isn't giving away that car anymore.

01:59:50.000 My wife and I could really use it about now.

01:59:52.000 If you would shout out my gifts and go, I'd appreciate you.

01:59:54.000 Family freedom vehicle.

01:59:56.000 Love all the cast.

01:59:57.000 Walsh.

01:59:58.000 Okay, so I bought a Junker car for a couple hundred bucks that has 240,000 miles on it.

02:00:02.000 I don't know if it even works.

02:00:07.000 I was buying a car, and someone was doing a trade-in at the same time, and my brother saw it, and he was like, hey, we should get that.

02:00:12.000 It could be used for something, a couple hundred bucks.

02:00:15.000 So I bought it, and then I was like, it would be really funny if we did a car giveaway, where it's me standing next to a Tesla Model S, saying you could win a car, and then as soon as the video starts, the camera pans to the Chevy Cobalt 2006 with 240,000 miles on it, and you win that one instead.

02:00:31.000 And if you do win it, you have 24 hours to get it off my property, otherwise we're billing you for it.

02:00:35.000 If you really want that car, you can have it.

02:00:37.000 Is that the bright yellow one?

02:00:38.000 Yes.

02:00:41.000 I think we might just, I don't know.

02:00:42.000 I don't know anything about cars, but that one seems really nice.

02:00:46.000 Hey, sometimes a car's a car, you know what I mean?

02:00:48.000 Especially in this day and age.

02:00:49.000 I feel like it makes a difference if it runs though, you know?

02:00:53.000 Ash Eel says, my anime recommendations for you is Spice and Wolf, Mayu, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, The Heroic Legend of Arceon, Silver Spoon, Trigun, and Cowboy Bebop.

02:01:04.000 Hang on, let me write these down.

02:01:05.000 It's really flattering that they want you to enjoy the things they enjoy.

02:01:09.000 Yeah.

02:01:10.000 I don't mind that.

02:01:11.000 It's the demand.

02:01:12.000 When the demands come in and when they get mad when I don't like it, that's the part.

02:01:15.000 Because I don't have that.

02:01:17.000 It's always weird to me when I say I don't like some pop culture thing and people get angry.

02:01:21.000 Cause like, there are plenty of things I like, uh, despite popular opinion, I do like some things.

02:01:26.000 And when other people don't like it, it doesn't, doesn't make me angry.

02:01:28.000 I don't have, I don't understand that.

02:01:30.000 So I don't get what people are... In this case, when you're like, I don't like it, this, this format and they're like, but watch it again, but try this one.

02:01:37.000 Like, that's literally my life.

02:01:39.000 We're going to go to the members show, and I really do want to talk about colonization, because we're starting to get into the heat of what it means, and I think it'll be a fun conversation.

02:01:48.000 So smash that like button if you haven't already.

02:01:50.000 One like equals one Let's Go Brandon.

02:01:52.000 That apparently works much better for getting likes.

02:01:55.000 And head over to TimCast.com, click join us.

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02:02:01.000 Should be fun.

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02:02:22.000 Cool.

02:02:23.000 It looks funny.

02:02:25.000 Is it very funny, or is it meant to be serious?

02:02:28.000 What's been your favorite dispute so far?

02:02:33.000 There's so many terrible ones.

02:02:36.000 In the best way, in the best way.

02:02:37.000 We did have one, I think it was the second episode, it was a guy who he enlisted his niece to go buy marijuana for him with her medical marijuana card.

02:02:48.000 And then she went and did that, and then she gave the weed away on the way home to all of her friends and smoked it.

02:02:55.000 So then he's suing her to recoup his drug money.

02:02:59.000 Amazing.

02:03:00.000 So that was a... Are you like, sir, that was a crime?

02:03:03.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, no court in the land would take that one because you clearly have no case.

02:03:09.000 And I don't wanna give any spoilers away.

02:03:10.000 He obviously did lose the case.

02:03:11.000 But I did, like, well, convince me.

02:03:14.000 I mean, give me a reason to take your side in this.

02:03:18.000 And he wasn't able to.

02:03:19.000 Right on.

02:03:19.000 Mary shuts him out.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, you guys can find me on Pop Culture Crisis.

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02:03:27.000 And if you want to send me hate, validation, whatever is in your heart, my Instagram and Twitter are both Mary Archived.

02:03:34.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brumwell.

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02:03:47.000 Guys, thank you so much for everything.

02:03:49.000 Bye, Serge!

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