Missouri AG Andrew Bailey joins us to talk about the latest in the Biden vs. New York City subway debate, the Black Lives Matter response to the Democratic National Convention, and why you should vote for Kamala Harris if she s running for president.
00:00:31.000Kamala Harris has secured the nomination, at least in essence, calling herself the presumptive nominee.
00:00:37.000She's got enough delegates pledged to support her.
00:00:40.000She's winning the prediction markets, but she may not get access to Joe Biden's funds because I believe Trump's campaign Republicans and Democrats are arguing you cannot transfer funding from Joe Biden's donations to her, so all the Biden HQ donations might get refunded to their donors, which could be big.
00:00:57.000And then, of course, we've got the big funny story.
00:01:01.000Black Lives Matter slams the DNC for installing Kamala Harris.
00:01:06.000And why this is oh so funny is that Joy Reid is basically saying, if you don't vote for Kamala Harris, you ain't black.
00:01:12.000She didn't say it literally like that, but that's basically what she's saying.
00:01:14.000So we'll talk about that, plus we're going to talk about the lawsuit against New York for interfering in the election.
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00:02:22.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Attorney General Andrew Bailey.
00:02:33.000I'm the Attorney General for the state of Missouri, and so I represent the state and the people of the state.
00:02:38.000We're the law firm for the state of Missouri, and we've done a lot of work since I've been in office, not only protecting Missouri consumers against fraudulent business practices and prosecuting criminals.
00:02:47.000We removed the Soros-backed prosecutor in the city of St.
00:03:04.000And we've taken on the Biden administration.
00:03:05.000I mean, more than 50 lawsuits against the Biden administration and the federal overreach that we see coming out of Washington DC right now.
00:03:11.000There's no sanction in the United States Constitution for an unelected fourth branch of government.
00:03:15.000And so using lawsuits to assert state sovereignty and push back against that federal overreach when you've got that alphabet soup of bureaucratic agencies infringing on our rights, it's really critical to the work we do.
00:03:26.000You know, one of the most important lawsuits I've filed is our lawsuit against the state of New York to stop a rogue prosecutor and collusive judiciary from hijacking our national election.
00:03:37.000I'll tell you, this lawfare against President Trump is poisoning our democratic process.
00:03:41.000We're using every tool at our disposal to fight back.
00:04:41.000I have tremendous respect for whoever took over that Twitter account, that X account, and is calling out the DNC for doing exactly what we've been calling them out for.
00:04:49.000We have this thread from Black Lives Matter on X, verified account.
00:05:31.000Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites.
00:05:40.000We call on the DNC to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates.
00:05:47.000Here, here, Black Lives Matter, and I want to say this, we were just at the RNC, the Republican National Convention, and it was a whole lot of fun.
00:05:55.000Had a cheeseburger with a gluten-free bun.
00:05:58.000And many people asked if we're going to be at the Democratic National Convention, to which I said, absolutely not, because I've grown quite fond of living.
00:06:05.000I do not want to go to the DNC, where it's going to be violent and chaotic.
00:06:09.000Several people asked me, why would the DNC be more chaotic than the RNC?
00:06:17.000There were some protesters, they stood outside, they waved little flags, and they complained, and they said Donald Trump should be in prison, and we said okay, and that was it.
00:06:25.000The DNC is the door for the far-left extremists.
00:06:30.000The far-left protesting the RNC is basically them trying to scale the Great Wall, and to break their way in.
00:06:37.000The Democratic Party, however, is a door guarded by a few party elites that they feel they can break down.
00:06:42.000Now that Kamala Harris is trying to play the, I-just-get-to-be-the-nominee game, and the progressive far-left wing, especially with that protest we saw in DC of the anti-Israel groups taking over, these people are not going to accept this.
00:06:55.000So it's going to be a brokered convention, And just like in 1968, it will be a brokered convention, and they also expect it is going to be bedlam outside.
00:07:07.000There's no stated—so normally in a primary process, everybody votes.
00:07:12.000The delegates from the area where the vote takes place are pledged to support the person people voted for, kind of like the Electoral College.
00:07:18.000So you've got like five delegates in one area, and they say everybody votes for Joe Biden.
00:07:42.000It was amazing to me how quickly everyone sort of got in line behind Kamala Harris, who, let's remember, was a farther left option who did not make it very far when she ran her own presidential campaign.
00:07:54.000But it's like, of the 47 Democrats in the Senate, 45 had already thrown out endorsements for her.
00:08:00.000One of the only ones who hadn't, well, one was Bob Menendez, who's, you know, going to resign, or has resigned, and he was found guilty.
00:08:07.000So he's kind of in an outward position anyways.
00:08:09.000But then also it's Jon Tester from Montana who probably can't come out and endorse Harris because he's in a state that is likely going to get flipped.
00:08:19.000I mean, there is a very serious belief that that will become a Republican seat.
00:08:22.000And then in the House, it's like, You know, I think in total I have 192 people have already endorsed, of like 212, have endorsed Harris.
00:08:30.000I mean, they just fell in line so quickly, including Chuck Schumer, who waited 48 hours and then said, now that the process has played out, we're going to endorse Harris, which is like, what process?
00:08:39.000And do you see when he clapped for himself and nobody clapped?
00:08:55.000And I see people posting about how grateful they are that a candidate got installed threatening the democratic process for the people that are afraid of the threat to democracy.
00:09:04.000You know, there were complaints in 2016 when Hillary Clinton, it seemed like the process was rigged in 2016.
00:09:10.000And so then to be reliving that... Seemed like.
00:09:13.000Yeah, I mean, it clearly was rigged in 2016.
00:09:38.000Of course, the far left and the media is going to attack that by making the claim that we're saying Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton went behind closed doors and shifted votes.
00:09:59.000Yeah, and then you had the Wikileaks emails, Wikileaks released the emails, and we saw great party collusion to block Bernie Sanders, the popular Democratic choice.
00:10:09.000Once again, in 2020, all these candidates unite against Bernie Sanders, endorse Joe Biden to shift all those votes.
00:10:16.000And I think the reason they did This structure, keeping Joe Biden as long as possible, was to block any other grassroots contender, because let's be real, RFK Jr.
00:10:25.000would be the Democratic nominee were it not for this game they played.
00:10:30.000Kamala Harris could not get a single—what did she not get?
00:10:34.000She drops out in disgrace, and now she's the nominee?
00:10:37.000By what metric should she be the nominee?
00:10:40.000Black Lives Matter, bravo for calling her out.
00:10:43.000But I'll say it, Chicago is going to be... Let's just pray for our friends and families in Chicago.
00:10:49.000I've been praying for Donald Trump, to be honest, for his safety and his health, because if something were to happen to him, I'm like wargaming in my mind, who would become the Republican nominee?
00:11:01.000Would it be Nikki Haley, and then she's more salvageable than Kamala, and then we get Nikki Haley and Pompeo as the VP, President, VP, and then they take us into war with Iran, like... Real quick, what do you mean salvageable?
00:11:12.000Do you mean, like, she'll be worse than...?
00:11:13.000No, like, more palatable, I guess is a better word.
00:11:16.000Nikki Haley would be more palatable than this girl who got no delegates in her first attempt when her campaign was completely sunk in like a three minute diatribe by Tulsi Gabbard talking about her record in California, imprisoning, like keeping people in prison for slave labor, arresting people.
00:11:32.000It was an amazing moment from Tulsi Gabbard.
00:11:35.000Really highly recommend watching that clip again, but I pray for Trump's safety and for a legitimate process right now.
00:11:44.000Yeah, dripping with irony that the left continues to attack our democratic processes while screaming about being the sacred guardians of democracy.
00:11:52.000Right now, you've got Donald Trump, who was chosen for the Republican Party by popular mandate.
00:12:58.000It is the Democratic Party, anti-democratic, calling the party with actual democratic voting processes fascists.
00:13:07.000One of the, so there's like less than, I think there's 12 members of Congress, less than 20, that have not, they've released statements on Biden leaving, but they haven't endorsed Kamala Harris.
00:13:40.000I'm curious about the pressure in the party, because I know for a long time you have this split.
00:13:45.000You have Republicans who despise Donald Trump, but it seems like that's mostly shifted away as many members of the party at the higher level, like people who have been in elected office for a long time, have begun to accept that the people think he's the right choice.
00:13:58.000Have you felt pressure from any groups to be like, early on with DeSantis, we don't want Trump.
00:14:03.000Or has it been fairly easy to just say, look, I want to vote for Trump?
00:14:07.000I was the first statewide official to endorse President Trump.
00:14:10.000And it's because he leads a movement that puts Americans first and has led a movement that has expanded the Republican Party to places it wasn't going to go on its own and no one else was going to get us there.
00:14:26.000But I'll tell you what, I support the democratic process above all.
00:14:29.000I mean, it's just we're at this point where A middle-of-the-road person is just like, well, I don't want to choose Coppola, you know, a Kamala Copp who was appointed.
00:14:41.000Donald Trump, at least, there's a lot of people who are behind him, but no new wars?
00:14:44.000I mean, you can throw everything out the window to say no new wars.
00:14:47.000Of course, they're going to call Trump a fascist.
00:14:49.000This whole, this concept, this logic, it's illogical that you need to override the democratic process to protect against the threat to democracy is insanity.
00:15:00.000Yeah, I mean they are focused on, they think that the ends justify the means.
00:15:06.000And that violates basic rule of law principles, it violates, it's antithetical to who we are as an American people as a constitutional democratic republic.
00:15:14.000How can people push back against this if they truly believe this is You know, I think taking action at the convention, to the extent, I think that's where people are going to sound off on this.
00:15:22.000And you know, at the end of the day, the Democratic Party, like I said, you've had caucuses, you've had primaries, those people have spoken, and now their voice is being stifled in silence.
00:15:33.000This has never been about a process, it's always been about control, to your point.
00:15:37.000I'm, you know, I'm ready to join some of these protests.
00:15:40.000I literally don't want to join a leftist protest because they're going to burn things down and hurt innocent people.
00:15:44.000But I mean, in spirit, from the armchair level, I'm right there with, if Antifa shows up in Chicago to protest the Democratic Party, I support their peaceful endeavors, challenging the party and calling them out.
00:16:57.000He's certainly abandoned those principles and shifted completely in the other direction.
00:17:01.000But ultimately, my point is, here we are now.
00:17:05.000At this point, I'm just like, the Democratic Party ousting him has proven there is no real process there for the people who want to see change.
00:17:13.000But there are, and what irks me is, liberal pundits and personalities saying, we approve and accept the party choosing for us, and because we approve it, that's democracy.
00:17:23.000You never gotta vote, you never gotta say, and that's why I'm totally out.
00:17:27.000And so when you mention, Attorney General, that Donald Trump has expanded the party, look at me, many of our guests, you've got Libertarian, you've got Mises Caucus people now, who are saying they're gonna be voting for Donald Trump because he has been a popular president.
00:17:43.000I think there's huge groups of people, huge swaths of this country that feel left out.
00:17:49.000And Donald Trump has given them a voice.
00:17:59.000And if you feel left out, you feel like you don't have a voice in the process, and you see something like what we've seen over the past 72 hours with Kamala Harris.
00:18:49.000The thing about Kamala Harris's campaign that I find fascinating is, and maybe you can unpack this for us, but they're starting to say, well, she was this tough prosecutor and therefore she can prosecute Donald Trump because he's done all these horrible things apparently.
00:19:02.000But she also has to be in a position where she defends the Biden-Harris administration.
00:19:07.000Remember, they never let us forget that she was there even when they had shuffled her sort of to the personnel background.
00:19:12.000And so she's trying to run on her legacy as a prosecutor, which I have always heard right and left gets very mixed reviews, and also decide If she's going to stand by Joe Biden and say, I'm finishing the job he started, or if she's going to kind of attack this guy who has now just recommended her.
00:19:40.000And again, it's like it's almost back to school time and working families are like, how am I going to afford a new backpack and school lunches for my kids?
00:20:02.000So, like, Biden's failures to secure our national sovereignty and his hanging an open sign at the southern border are making Missouri communities left safe.
00:20:10.000I mean, these things, again, they matter to everyday working Americans, and Kamala Harris is going to have to own those things.
00:20:17.000While we got you here, I got a question for you that you may be able to actually answer.
00:20:21.000And I think there was an official statement from Missouri, I don't know if it came from you or what office, but you're familiar with the Help America Vote verification story?
00:20:29.000So this is, I've chosen February 17th, 2024 specifically, as it is very large and terrifying numbers.
00:20:36.000Just some quick context for people to understand.
00:20:38.000Help America Vote verification is a system so that if someone is trying to register to vote, but they do not have an ID, The DMV, the MVA, can submit the name, their birthday, and the last four of their social to the Social Security Administration to check to see if they are in the Social Security database.
00:20:56.000That way the person can be registered to vote.
00:20:58.000There have been a lot of concerns as many states, particularly important states for the election, like Arizona, are seeing tens of thousands of registration attempts Every week in some instance bi-weekly in some instances and
00:21:11.000the example that we have here from February 17th of this year
00:21:14.000The state of Missouri had seventy eight thousand four hundred twenty one
00:21:17.000verification verification requests with twenty three thousand two hundred and fifty three coming back as
00:21:23.000deceased I Believe the official statement was that this is voter roll
00:21:26.000cleanup. I don't know if you can shed some light on what's going on
00:21:29.000Yeah, you know that's a process the Secretary of State's office manages to help the county clerks
00:21:34.000clean up the voter rolls to make sure that the the deceased or
00:21:37.000Folks are purged from those rolls And so that's an important part of the process.
00:21:43.000But when you see numbers like that, especially in swing states like Missouri, bright red state, but Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Texas, 220,000?
00:21:55.000I mean, you think about the 10 million people who have crossed our border illegally and are here illegally, and it is illegal for them to participate in a national election.
00:22:03.000Certainly in Missouri, it's a felony offense.
00:22:06.000The forms you have to fill out, if you're fraudulently holding yourself out as a legal resident and you're not, that's a felony forgery.
00:22:13.000And so, you know, these other states need to look at those same laws and make sure that you're not only purging the deceased, but preventing hijacking of the election process by people who have no legal right to vote.
00:22:24.000But is this confirmed, or, I don't know, if you don't know 100%, but this is Missouri doing voter roll cleanup?
00:22:31.000I would need to confirm with our Secretary of State's office on the specific numbers, but I know that that is an ongoing process that the Secretary of State manages.
00:22:37.000It's super disturbing, because it's like a third of the 70, it's the second most state of all of them.
00:22:43.000It's Texas, then Missouri, I think is number two, maybe?
00:22:45.000Yeah, Texas, but this is, again, February 17th, it's one specific week.
00:23:15.000Because when this story first broke, I think it was back in March, Texas only reports every other week 219,323 registration verification requests.
00:23:34.000We got ourselves here a big old problem.
00:23:37.000Let's operate under the assumption this is still voter roll cleanup.
00:23:40.000If Missouri is doing voter roll cleanup to the tune of, in one week, 78,421 people, how were there 5,938 of those people that did not have a match in the social security database?
00:23:53.000How are 23,000... So if we want to say this is voter roll cleanup, 23,000 deceased makes a lot of sense.
00:24:00.000It violates the rules of the Help America Vote Act, which states this is specifically for registering people to vote, not for... It offers no provision for using it for voter roll cleanup, but it still might be the case.
00:24:12.000Then how do you have 6,000 of the people not actually matching?
00:24:16.000That would mean that Missouri caught in one week 6,000 people on their voter rolls who aren't in the Social Security Administration database.
00:24:24.000And I will stress, you don't get erased from that database.
00:25:47.000But the fear now is that in 2021, Joe Biden signed an executive order that allowed the federal government to register people in states on behalf of that state without the state knowing.
00:25:58.000West Virginia came out and said, absolutely not.
00:26:03.000But what if what we're seeing is unknown to these states, like Missouri, because these registrations that are being sent to the SSA are coming from federal authorities and the state has nothing to do with it?
00:26:16.000Get printed that they appear in these databases because the federal government sends in the paperwork and then you end up with non-citizens or one theory is that what's happening is someone is illicitly downloading college and university databases and then trying to register college students who are not registered without them knowing so that a universal mail-in vote will appear at their home and then they could get an activist to go make them fill it out.
00:26:45.000I mean, look, we know that in 2020, several of the blue states changed the rules of the game in the 11th hour in order to harvest more ballots.
00:26:53.000I mean, you look at that juxtaposed with the deep state, you know, suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:26:59.000I mean, those things, you put those two things together and you can see why people, the integrity, like self-evident integrity of the process has been lost.
00:27:07.000Yeah, I think that's one of the big issues.
00:27:10.000Voters this year are primed to be concerned about what's going on.
00:27:13.000And while that's good, it also encourages low trust because you never seem to get the answers that you're looking for.
00:27:32.000And in fact, you're going to see more coming out of my office in the coming weeks about some election integrity issues that we're working on as it relates to illegal aliens.
00:27:40.000Missouri's one of the last states in the nation that still makes it a felony offense.
00:27:43.000to knowingly transport criminal aliens into or through the state of Missouri.
00:28:18.000I mean, we would be hearing stories left and right from the Democrats and the media being like, oh, Missouri is suppressing the vote.
00:28:23.000And you said that Missouri is one of the last states to enforce this felony for transporting illegal immigrants into the state.
00:28:29.000So that means that other states at one point did this and then repealed it?
00:28:32.000So other states have had similar statutes on the books but have lost court battles.
00:28:37.000But I think one of the things the court's going to look at when weighing whether or not a state can enforce a measure like that is does the state have a compelling interest in enforcement?
00:30:34.000I'm still concerned about all of this data because it's a story that, I mean, we have covered probably like 17 times and we've never gotten clear answers as to what's going on.
00:31:01.000So, you know, we're looking at great polling for Donald Trump, especially after someone tried to take his life and he stood up with blood coming on his face, screaming, yelling, fight, fight, fight.
00:31:12.000Now you've got, with Kamala Harris coming in, people are saying, oh, she's even worse than Biden.
00:31:17.000But the more savvy people are coming out and saying, if you think you've won, you've lost.
00:31:22.000Because regardless of what's going on with Biden, Kamala, the DNC, we still have a shadow campaign to contend with, the likes of which we do not know.
00:31:30.000You're familiar with the Time Magazine shadow campaign story?
00:31:48.000This is the secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election, to which Molly Ball literally writes for Time Magazine, there was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protest and coordinated the resistance from CEOs.
00:32:05.000Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans.
00:32:09.000The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S.
00:32:13.000Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO published on Election Day.
00:32:19.000Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain, inspired by the summer's massive, sometimes destructive racial justice protests, in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump's assault on democracy.
00:32:33.000The article, written not even a month after the inauguration of Joe Biden, talks about how CEOs, Zuckerbucks, changing in voting laws, people worked behind—a shadow campaign If you want to call that rigging an election, by all means, go ahead and do so.
00:32:55.000I'd like to use their words and say they ran a conspiracy, that's what Molly Ball called it, shadow campaign to secure the election to save us from Trump.
00:33:07.000So now that it's three months out from this next election, the great fear is that they didn't stop.
00:33:14.000There's something else working behind the scenes.
00:33:16.000So, I mean, that's why, just real quick, I appreciate having you here, especially because of lawsuits you filed, because you seem to be one of the very few people actually doing something.
00:33:25.000Well, you know, our lawsuit, Missouri v. Biden, the most important First Amendment case in this nation's history, we're back down at the trial court level using merits discovery to root out the censorship enterprise from the Biden regime.
00:33:36.000You know, what we're talking about is collusion between activists, corporate America, organized labor there.
00:33:43.000I think there's another element there, another layer, and that's the deep state.
00:33:46.000Again, we uncovered as part of Missouri v. Biden, The Hunter Biden laptop scandal that the FBI was in possession of the laptop one year before the election and planted the seed in big tech that there would be a Russian disinformation campaign related to the Hunter Biden, right?
00:34:03.000And then there were they met with increased frequency between DOJ, FBI and big tech oligarchs.
00:34:09.000In the weeks and months leading up to that story breaking, and then it was suppressed instantly.
00:34:23.000Remember the Peter Strzok, Lisa Page text messages in 2016?
00:34:27.000Like before Trump was even in the Oval Office, the deep state was already plotting against him.
00:34:33.000And so, yeah, I mean, people stop trusting our systems when they see and learn about stuff.
00:34:39.000What were those texts, Lisa Strzok and... Yeah, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
00:34:42.000They were, you know, FBI agent and Department of Justice official that were conspiring and colluding to undermine the first years of President Trump's administration by injecting this Russian collusion hoax.
00:35:36.000They're doing it to everyday Americans in ways we don't see.
00:35:40.000You know, again, let's talk about in the context of censorship.
00:35:43.000Again, that's government censorship of information that interferes with an election.
00:35:48.000That's enormously problematic for obvious reasons.
00:35:51.000But they're censoring conservative voices on big tech social media platforms.
00:35:56.000They're changing our culture in ways that we don't see, and it's much more pernicious and nefarious than at any point in human history.
00:36:04.000Like, if Joseph Stalin goes and shuts down a printing press, the whole world knows it's happened, they can see it, and he's only silenced the printed word.
00:36:13.000But what's happening now, if you're shadow banned, de-platformed, de-emphasized, if the story never breaks because it's suppressed, you know, we're not only deprived.
00:36:20.000First of all, we don't know the censorship is going on.
00:36:22.000And it's not only the speaker's rights who've been violated, but the listeners as well, who may not know that they were going to receive a message that now they can't hear.
00:36:30.000But it's also the big tech because the way in which we communicate is so much more multi-dimensional than just a simple printing press.
00:36:37.000It's visual imagery, it's body language, it's all these other forms of communication that are being suppressed.
00:36:43.000And again, that's enormously harmful to who we are as a people.
00:36:46.000How much you want to bet the IRS is specifically targeting people based on politics, and how do you track for that?
00:37:09.000Yeah, if someone wants to fact check that.
00:37:11.000You know, when they announced they were doing this, Biden says, only if you make $400,000 or more, we're gonna raise your taxes.
00:37:17.000Yeah, 87,000 agents aren't to raise your taxes.
00:37:20.000They would raise your taxes to raise your taxes.
00:37:22.00087,000 agents are so they can comb through your financials.
00:37:25.000And then one day, working class, small business, mom-and-pop shop that makes, I don't know, cheeseburgers, gets a letter from the IRS that says, you owe us $384.
00:37:44.000And that's what they're doing to the working class people.
00:37:47.000I'd be willing to bet it's politically biased as well, because you suppress economically your political opponents, makes it harder for them to take the time off to go vote.
00:37:57.000And to make your point about censorship, one thing we learned with Dr. Robert Epstein, Google and Facebook are having a massive impact on the election.
00:38:07.000He explained that, it's actually really simple, they ran a test.
00:38:12.000On election day, in one of their tests, Facebook sent out a reminder to vote to 100% of Democrats, I think it was Democrats, left-leaning, I think it was in the US, and only like 60 some odd percent of people on the right.
00:38:29.000That's the manipulative game that they play across the board, and we're trying to fight against that.
00:38:33.000Now, that being said, with the way things are going, I'm not confident they're succeeding.
00:38:39.000Yeah, I wonder if you could tell us what- because you've taken a lot of really bold action.
00:38:43.000I mean, you've lost against Media Matters, Planned Parenthood, the Biden administration, New York State, but you're also fairly young in your career.
00:38:50.000I mean, what makes you- what made- what was the calculation going into this?
00:38:54.000Like, I think there are some people, and I'm glad you're not one of them, who would say like, I don't want to anger too many higher powers.
00:39:01.000Right, no, that's not a concern of mine.
00:39:11.000But, you know, first of all, there's nothing that's going to happen to me in politics that is going to be any worse than my worst day overseas in Iraq, where I spent two years overseas in the war on terror.
00:39:29.000Served in the army after the war, in the war on terror, was an armored cavalry scout, platoon leader, and then executive officer and troop commander eventually.
00:39:38.000But yeah, I mean, having lead soldiers in combat like that, and having the privilege to get to do that, you know, the politics of it doesn't scare me.
00:39:45.000But I also, I'm not like trying to climb a ladder to a higher office.
00:39:49.000So I have a little more audacity to do the right things and to be on
00:39:54.000attack. And I think too, like one of the things, one of the first things you learn in the army,
00:39:58.000light infantry tactics. When you're caught in a near ambush, you assault into the ambush. You don't
00:40:02.000turn and run away because you'll just get shot in the back. You're going to die anyway. Kill some bad
00:40:06.000guys on your way out. And that's kind of how I approach my job. That's cool. I really think
00:40:11.000that that's like a boldness that a lot of people don't have.
00:40:14.000I think there is a fear that, like, if you challenge the Biden administration, right, you'll upset the governor who's relying on the federal government for tax money or whatever.
00:40:22.000But I like that you're saying, like, I am here for this job and I'm going to do it to the best of my ability, because I think that that's what restores Americans' trust in their elected officials, that they are actively doing the things that are hard and difficult and not thinking, oh, well, but I want to move up to a higher office.
00:40:37.000Why are you, are you like the only AG actually doing stuff?
00:40:41.000You know, I partner with like-minded state attorneys general a lot.
00:40:45.000Last year we partnered on 161, 164 cases together.
00:40:49.000So there's a lot of partnership and overlap.
00:40:52.000You know, Missouri is uniquely positioned for a variety of reasons.
00:40:54.000Number one, because we are a red state, but we're recently a red state.
00:41:00.000And so like if you think about conservative states traditionally have not empowered their state attorneys general because Conservatives view it as a zero-sum game.
00:41:10.000And so conservative states have limited the authority of their AGs.
00:41:13.000Meanwhile, blue states, like Letitia James, her General Assembly gives her any kind of law she wants to conduct lawfare and every other pernicious attack on our way of life.
00:41:21.000Missouri is uniquely positioned because we're so recently a blue state that has now transitioned.
00:41:28.000And so it's like the enemy has left weapons on the battlefield that we're picking up and learning how to use.
00:41:33.000There's like this retreating enemy that's left these weapons on the battlefield.
00:41:36.000And so the Missouri Attorney General's Office has some really unique statutory authority that isn't replicated in other states.
00:41:41.000But then again, I also think when you've got someone in office who just wants to be the AG and do the right things for the right reasons, look, America's under attack.
00:41:49.000I mean, we're absolutely under attack.
00:42:50.000They're perverting the law to try to put an imprimatur of legitimization on illegal crossings.
00:42:57.000So it's not just that they refused to build the border wall that they were commanded by Congress to do and we sued them and won on that lawsuit.
00:43:02.000It's not just that they are catching release and repealing remain in Mexico.
00:43:07.000We should not be catching and releasing.
00:43:09.000Caravans should remain in Mexico if they're going to seek asylum, but it's perversion of the parole process.
00:43:13.000Parole under immigration law is for individualized determinations, for limited entry, for limited purpose, limited amount of time.
00:43:19.000Well, by Biden saying, hey, we're going to allow 10,000 Guatemalans, he's creating a visa program that was never authorized by Congress.
00:43:26.000Again, that's how he's perverting the law.
00:43:28.000So it's not just that he's not enforcing, he's hung an open sign and inviting.
00:43:34.000Oh, this is what's wild is that all of these violate the rights of each individual state who has not had... I mean, this is the point of the Senate.
00:43:42.000So that the states are represented the federal government before they do these things.
00:43:50.000Yeah, and to the detriment of the people, right?
00:43:53.000I mean, I remember seeing this report from Massachusetts saying they had so many illegal immigrants in the state that their shelters were completely full.
00:44:00.000These are shelters that are typically for, you know, homeless people or women and children fleeing domestic violence situations.
00:44:05.000Like, it's the resources that people...
00:44:07.000In need that, you know, in a desperate situation rely on that are now being diverted to solve this crisis that we don't actually have to have.
00:44:15.000The Biden administration just said on day one, we hated Trump so much.
00:44:19.000We're going to reverse whatever he's doing.
00:44:20.000And we're not going to think about the consequences of this because we're trying to score this political this political point that we aren't Trump.
00:44:25.000And look, look at this posturing we can pull off.
00:44:28.000Well, I think it goes back to something you said earlier, which is that the left has rejected practical good, any pursuit of practical good, in favor of radical, progressive, woke ideology.
00:45:16.000I mean, the Supreme Court has taken notice of the lawsuit we filed against the state of New York.
00:45:20.000And again, you've got a rogue prosecutor and collusive judiciary in New York who have prosecuted Donald Trump under specious legal grounds.
00:45:29.000The prosecution is replete with constitutional procedural error.
00:45:32.000Ethics violations should have never happened.
00:45:34.000I've never seen such a gross miscarriage of justice.
00:45:38.000And at the end of the day, that hurts Missourians in every other state because we have a right to participate in a national presidential election on equal footing with every other sovereign state.
00:45:47.000And Missourians are being denied access to, and being denied the ability to hear from, a presidential candidate in the heat of a campaign in the most consequential national election in this country's history.
00:45:59.000So you filed, I should say, on behalf of the state of Missouri, you sued New York, its original jurisdiction, so the Supreme Court is the court that hears it.
00:46:07.000We announced the news when it broke, and many people said, but wait, Supreme Court's out of session, how does this work?
00:46:14.000So you've got kind of the Supreme Court's appellate review docket, and that's what mostly the Supreme Court does, is review cases that have been adjudicated at a lower court.
00:46:22.000But the Founding Fathers contemplated there would be disputes amongst the states, and they codified a method by which we could redress those grievances in Article 3, Section 2 of the United States Constitution, and it's the original action docket.
00:46:32.000And so that's separate and apart from kind of their appellate review, and so Other states have sued other states before.
00:46:38.000Typically, it's about water rights or boundaries.
00:46:41.000This is different because, again, we're suing the state of New York for hijacking this election and injecting poison into our democratic process through lawfare.
00:46:49.000But it's an original action of the Supreme Court.
00:47:01.000You know, the gag order that the court instituted in New York is unconstitutional.
00:47:06.000It violates President Trump's right to speak, but it violates our right to hear from him.
00:47:10.000And the important point here is, like, the gag orders in criminal prosecutions, there's a strong presumption against gag orders because of our First Amendment rights.
00:47:18.000But that's especially true, and those considerations are heightened when you're talking about a presidential candidate!
00:47:30.000Number two, here the state, the prosecutor, got the gag order.
00:47:34.000If Donald Trump wants to put himself at risk by speaking out publicly about the trial, he should be allowed to do that, and we have a right to hear from him.
00:47:41.000The second claim is that, again, in Missouri we had a caucus, and there were electors who were selected based on that caucus to attend the convention and cast votes for President Donald Trump to be the Republican nominee.
00:47:54.000Those electors are being denied access to a presidential candidate, because anytime he's spinning in a Manhattan courtroom, or potentially in a New York State penitentiary, or on probation in New York, he can't be campaigning.
00:48:04.000And that harms our ability to have access to him.
00:48:06.000The third claim is under the Purcell Doctrine.
00:48:08.000So the Purcell Doctrine stands for the proposition that courts should stay out of decisions that would obfuscate or interfere with an election.
00:48:15.000And again, those considerations are heightened the closer in time you get to an election.
00:48:20.000And so the same should be true in New York.
00:48:22.000People are already asking me, constituents reach out all the time, can Donald Trump be on the ballot?
00:48:26.000Is he going to get to come to Missouri and talk to us?
00:48:29.000Can he still serve as president if he's convicted of a felony in New York?
00:48:32.000So this New York court is violating the Purcell Doctrine by injecting that kind of level of obfuscation into the electoral process.
00:48:38.000This is absolutely crazy because it brings up a lot of questions.
00:48:41.000Now, we know any reasonable person who reviews the criminal charges against Donald Trump in the Hush Money case would scratch their head and say, what?
00:48:52.000And I'll break it down because I know there's people who haven't watched every show, but I'll try to make it quick.
00:48:56.000The charges against Donald Trump are for falsification of business records, but that's a misdemeanor and it's beyond its statute of limitations, meaning they can't bring the charges, what are we talking, seven years later.
00:49:06.000They claim it's upgraded to a felony if you falsify business records in furtherance of a secondary crime.
00:49:14.000Now, they claimed that Donald Trump, the judge said to the jury, If you believe Donald Trump committed a secondary crime, it doesn't matter which one, then you can find him guilty on this one if you believe he also falsified business records.
00:49:29.000Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but how does a court First of all, upgrade a charge with the presumption of a secondary crime that has never been adjudicated through any kind of due process means or anything.
00:49:44.000The court is just decreeing the crime exists.
00:50:18.000Under Ramos v. Louisiana, a case that was handed down by the United States Supreme Court in 2020, stands for the proposition that the Sixth Amendment right to fair trial includes the right to jury unanimity as to every element for which the defendant is charged.
00:50:30.000So they violated his constitutional rights to due process, violated his First Amendment right to free speech, violated his Sixth Amendment right to jury unanimity.
00:50:37.000You look at the fact that the prosecutors were politically motivated because they campaigned on a promise to prosecute President Trump.
00:51:00.000When I say that the case is an illicit witch hunt prosecution, that's what we're talking about.
00:51:03.000It's all of these problems that, typically, in a criminal trial, maybe you have one problem that results in what could be reversible error.
00:51:11.000But here, it's, like, replete with reversible error.
00:51:26.000That vehicle for raising these claims is insufficient to adjudicate the grievance that the state of Missouri and the voting public in Missouri has against the state of New York.
00:51:34.000The individual appeal process will vindicate President Trump individually, but that's going to take 18 to 24 months.
00:51:40.000And we can't wait because the election is forthcoming.
00:51:42.000So the Supreme Court said New York has to respond by tomorrow, which means what exactly?
00:51:51.000I mean, they have a reply to our lawsuit, and they'll either try to convince the court that the lawsuit should not go forward.
00:51:57.000They could concede that there's a problem.
00:52:00.000I don't anticipate they would do that.
00:52:01.000To clarify, does your lawsuit, does it raise claims to those due process violations against Donald Trump?
00:52:08.000Yeah, those are central to, I mean, that's central to the argument that this is lawfare, not a legitimate criminal prosecution.
00:52:14.000You know, again, the objective in New York was never to obtain a legally valid conviction.
00:52:19.000It was always to take President Trump off the campaign trail and silence him, and they were effective at doing that, and that harms Missourians and all voters.
00:52:25.000That's absolutely insane at a most basic, Democratic level.
00:52:31.000That you have 50 participants in an election where each state will cast a ballot, and you've got several states that are like, well, our clear choice is Trump, but we'll see what happens.
00:52:41.000So 1 50th of the nation decides we will do whatever we have to to destroy his opportunity to actually run a campaign.
00:52:50.000That is The most obvious and egregious election interference imaginable.
00:52:56.000Now, if it was something like Donald Trump shot a guy on Fifth Avenue and everybody saw it happen, well, I don't know what leg you got to stand on.
00:53:03.000States can bring charges against people if everybody watched and there's a preponderance of evidence.
00:53:06.000Then you go to trial and he can prove his innocence, be under reasonable doubt, etc, etc.
00:53:10.000But here we're looking at any reasonable person.
00:53:21.000And this statute has never been used in New York in the way in which they're using it against President Trump.
00:53:27.000Two other points I want to make real quick.
00:53:29.000You've also got this problem when you talk about the statute of limitations.
00:53:32.000Again, that is even more problematic in this instance because the statute that creates the offense for which Donald Trump was charged, I think it's New York Code 175.10, but it allows for an affirmative defense.
00:53:45.000And when you've got an affirmative defense, that requires the defendant, who typically doesn't have any burden of proof, to by preponderance of the evidence establish that he is legally excused from what would otherwise be criminal behavior.
00:53:56.000The due process violation is worse in this context because how can he take advantage of his statutorily granted affirmative defense and gather evidence to defend himself if he doesn't know what the predicate offense is?
00:54:09.000He just has to kind of prepare for anything, like it's a weird pop quiz.
00:54:12.000Again, the due process violation is worse in this instance because of that.
00:55:29.000This process is moving forward, and again, we anticipate that we need to act quickly, and we anticipate the court will act.
00:55:35.000So what argument could New York possibly have?
00:55:40.000I mean, what could they possibly say to the Supreme Court?
00:55:43.000Yeah, I'm interested to see what arguments they raise.
00:55:46.000I mean, they could defend the legitimacy of the prosecution, and then we get to, again, respond with all of these constitutional and ethical problems.
00:55:53.000But even when it was coming out, there were all kinds of people already, all media commenters on the left, saying, like, oh no, Trump's definitely going to appeal this.
00:56:02.000So there's a possibility that within a week, the Supreme Court just obliterates the whole New York hush money case?
00:56:09.000They just say outright, we nullify it, or what?
00:56:11.000Yeah, I think the prayer for relief here, first of all, yes, these cases need to go away.
00:56:15.000All of the law for against President Trump needs to be, those cases need to be dismissed or judgment entered notwithstanding the verdicts.
00:56:21.000And we've moved, as the state of Missouri, we filed a brief in the New York case demanding that the judge dismiss the indictment and vacate the judgment.
00:56:30.000The Supreme Court, have they already ruled on standing?
00:57:04.000Those are important for individual cases.
00:57:06.000However, when you have states bringing claims, is it time to review our standing analysis and for that analysis to evolve in a way that gives more latitude to allow for states to raise claims on behalf of the people?
00:57:20.000This was the Texas v. Pennsylvania back in 2020.
00:57:23.000The Supreme Court ruled on standing, I believe, right?
00:57:42.000What that previous case was asking was for the Supreme Court to redo an election.
00:57:48.000And the courts, again, under the Purcell Doctrine, they don't want to get involved in administering elections or reviewing elections or having anything to do with that.
00:58:15.000Number one, if the court were to sentence Donald Trump to prison, well then the Supreme Court might say, okay, now this is way more important to us.
00:58:22.000Number two, you know, and we've made this argument both at the Supreme Court and at the trial court level, but after the immunity decision was handed down by the Supreme Court, you can go back and look at some of the evidence that was introduced in the criminal trial in New York and realize that's the fruit of the poisonous tree.
00:58:36.000That evidence should have never been used to obtain a criminal conviction because the president was immune from some of that behavior.
00:58:43.000As we all knew, kind of going into that.
00:58:44.000So the New York court clearly raced ahead of SCOTUS to obtain that conviction.
00:58:50.000But all of those things are playing out and I think that's why the court has paused and has taken a hard look at this.
00:58:57.000And so there are things that may, could happen at the trial court level that could alter the trajectory of the case that's pending at the United States Supreme Court.
00:59:06.000Let's jump to this story, which will serve as a segue into the darker conversation.
01:00:03.000Now, I don't believe this resignation is sufficient.
01:00:07.000I believe that there is either, at bare minimum, criminal negligence, but I think most reasonable people can conclude, based on all of the statements, media reports, law enforcement statements, whistleblowers, etc., that This was allowed to happen.
01:00:25.000And beyond that, you question, if it was allowed to happen, who's this 20-year-old guy to randomly show up?
01:00:31.000This idea that it was just a bunch of accidents doesn't make sense.
01:00:34.000They first said that the roof was sloped so they couldn't get the law enforcement on the roof.
01:00:38.000The roof was not sloped, that's a lie.
01:00:40.000Eli Crane was there, standing on the roof, and he's like, what are you talking about?
01:00:44.000Then you had statements that actually, there were law enforcement up there, but they were too hot.
01:00:51.000Then you have questions about the windows being unsecure, the water tower being unsecure, you have the rooftop that was totally insecure, Donald Trump being released with an active threat.
01:01:01.000The Secret Service knew of an active threat and they still released Trump from holding.
01:01:04.000All of these things could not be an accident.
01:01:07.000So, I'll just say, as she's resigning, there are many members of Congress who are asking the question about was there, in some official capacity, intentional actions taken against Donald Trump.
01:01:16.000And I know it's a very difficult subject matter, but looking at all the evidence that's come out in the media, I don't know how you conclude that the story is just some crazy 20-year-old who got lucky.
01:01:34.000Mayorkas has this independent panel that he's saying is bipartisan.
01:01:37.000Mayorkas himself is being kind of sketchy.
01:01:40.000People were saying that he was, you know, declining to appear before the House Oversight Committee, even though the DHS is in charge of the Secret Service ultimately.
01:01:50.000I think one of the big problems is that we know that there are so many unanswered questions and Cheadle's testimony yesterday really proved that they are not willing to be honest with the public and they are really trying to sort of cover up, it feels like they're trying to cover up what happened and I don't know that we can trust the federal government to investigate itself.
01:02:10.000That roof was 150 yards away, roughly, from Donald Trump, and AR-15 fires off 400 yards.
01:02:51.000I mean, obviously, it looks like she was covering something up in the hearing yesterday, because she was like, I can't, I can't disclose that.
01:03:01.000The reason why I wanted to jump from our previous segment, which was talking about the lawfare, the Supreme Court rulings against New York, the actions being taken by New York are unprecedented.
01:03:11.000Criminal charges against Trump without proper due process, accusing Trump of a crime that Trump has never, they've never told Trump what crime that was.
01:03:21.000And in 2020, we had Texas v Pennsylvania, states lining up against states.
01:03:27.000And now you have, we're at the point where somehow, somehow every possible security failure happened, which allowed a man to shoot Donald Trump in the ear, nearly taking his life, but not for a few millimeters.
01:03:40.000And the concern is, When this happened, you even have Logan and Jake Paul saying, if Trump, if that bullet were a few millimeters away, we would have had a civil war.
01:03:53.000Now I'm supposed to be the guy ranting on the street corner with a sign saying Civil War, but now you've got, after this, the conversation has become so ridiculously mainstream, even Jake and Logan Paul on their podcast are like, wow, we almost had a civil war, I can't believe what's happening in this country.
01:04:08.000With what we're seeing, with the attempt on Trump's life, with the things you've uncovered, A.G.
01:04:14.000Bailey, about deep state collusion and censorship, Are we at risk of some kind of national-level internal conflict?
01:04:24.000And I want to preface this with, I am not saying civil war.
01:04:27.000That's one of the components, but it could be balkanization.
01:04:30.000It could be something along the lines of Individual states declaring themselves sanctuaries from federal authority to a more greater degree.
01:04:41.000Do you see that as a possibility in any way?
01:04:48.000They're tired of being told how to think, what to think, what you can and can't say.
01:04:53.000They're tired of us eroding our national sovereignty through the Biden invasion.
01:04:56.000They're tired of the fact that they're working all day, they come home at night, and their dollars don't spend as well because of the inflation.
01:05:30.000And her resignation does not excuse the officials from that.
01:05:34.000But going back to my point I made early on, the part of the problem is this rise in the administrative state.
01:05:40.000We no longer rely on Congress to pass laws and the executive branch to enforce those laws, and we no longer respect state sovereignty because we have this mushrooming administrative state, this alphabet soup of agencies that have this authority and aren't accountable to the electorate.
01:05:56.000Because they're bureaucrats that aren't elected, and so we need to slash and burn the administrative state.
01:06:01.000Overturning the Chevron Doctrine, reinvigoration of the Major Questions Doctrine in the previous two Supreme Court terms, those are weapons in our legal arsenal to fight back against the administrative state.
01:06:11.000Do you want to explain the Chevron ruling?
01:06:13.000Yeah, so Chevron was a farce that was put forth in the 1980s by the Supreme Court that essentially allowed, required, the federal judiciary to defer to a federal agency's reasonable interpretation of their own authority.
01:06:28.000That's an abdication of the court's role under Article 3 to determine what the law is.
01:06:33.000It goes all the way back to Marbury v. Madison.
01:06:57.000I'm like, wait, wait, I went to a gun store, I filled out my paperwork, they told me pistol braces were totally fine and legal, and I said, okay.
01:07:02.000And then a few months later, this story breaks, and they're like, by the way, so I call my lawyer, and he's like, take them off your weapons and separate them, bring them to a separate property, or store them separately, and you're illegally allowed to have them so long as they're not attached.
01:07:15.000And I said, how did a department, a bureau, just decide something was a crime?
01:07:22.000Luckily Missouri filed suit and won that lawsuit to put a stop to that because you're right.
01:07:26.000I mean look we're always The Second Amendment says shall not be infringed That's the words shall not be infringed in Missouri article 1 section 23 of the Missouri Constitution protects not only firearms But ammunition and accessories as well and obligates the state to stand up and fight to protect our God-given rights to not only firearms and ammunition accessories So I was proud to file that lawsuit and get a win Did the overturning of the Chevron Doctrine then eliminate or repeal all these things that had been done using the Chevron Doctrine?
01:07:53.000No, but it gives us better legal footing to challenge them.
01:07:56.000And it means that the tie doesn't go to the agency anymore.
01:08:00.000The agency's going to have to account for whether or not they're adhering to the plain text of the statutes that authorize them to perform certain functions.
01:08:07.000But I like the messaging around this when the Chevron ruling came out.
01:08:10.000Every mainstream media outlet, a lot of left-leaning ones were like, well, they're not letting experts make decisions.
01:08:20.000And it feels like we're in parallel worlds where there are some people who are like, well, here's the Constitution and here is what we would like to happen.
01:08:25.000Everyone else being like, no, you guys are crazy.
01:08:28.000That point was on full display in March when I sat at council table and we argued the case Missouri v. Biden and Justice Kentucky Brown Jackson Ask the question.
01:08:45.000It is an irreducible axiomatic principle that the rights that we enjoy come from God, not man, that the Constitution exists to protect us from the government, the government exists to protect our rights, and in this era we see government repeatedly weaponized against us.
01:08:58.000That is antithetical to who we are as an American What was the other, you said the Supreme Court overturned
01:10:09.000One of the concerns that you often hear is, you know, look, yes, but we've got to do it slowly because if we slash 5,000 jobs, the economic damage, it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, dude.
01:10:17.000We're not just giving people money for no reason.
01:10:20.000I kind of appreciate some sort of national regulation on education in that if one school was teaching someone that two plus two equals three, and then another school is like, no, it's two, then you're gonna have a problem and we're not gonna be able to communicate as a society.
01:10:33.000So I understand, but I don't think we need an entire department.
01:10:36.000I've learned in recent years, because I agree with you about the bloat.
01:10:39.000I think it just turns into people getting hired.
01:10:41.000The founders intended the federal government to be a government of limited authority, and under the Tenth Amendment, which says that any authority not given to the federal government, denied to the states, is enjoyed by the states and the people of the states.
01:10:52.000The states are governments of unlimited authority, limited only by their own constitutions or the federal constitution.
01:10:59.000So the only point I'm making is that education is left to the states.
01:11:03.000And it's up to states to regulate that.
01:11:04.000The federal government was never authorized or empowered under the enumerated powers given to the federal government to have anything to do with education.
01:11:11.000I mean, again, pick out of a hat any federal agency and let's determine whether or not there's enumerated authority for that agency in our Constitution.
01:11:19.000I feel like Americans have been sort of brainwashed to think of it as being the federal government above all else.
01:11:36.000The Supremacy Clause is an interpretive tool.
01:11:38.000When you have a federal statute and a state statute that cannot coexist and be synthesized, and that the federal statute is constitutionally valid, Then the federal statute trumps the state statute.
01:11:49.000But again, that's only when you have an irreconcilable difference.
01:12:42.000If the Supreme Court doesn't answer this, and I feel like they won't, then, well, Missouri can't just say, we accept that the game is broke, that the rules are rigged, and it's impossible to win.
01:12:53.000I mean, people across this country will lose their minds as this continually devolves.
01:12:58.000But as we've already seen, Tucker Carlson predicted in September that with the amount of lawfare against Donald Trump, we are moving into assassination territory.
01:13:07.000Now, a week ago, someone actually shot Donald Trump, narrowly missing him, his skull, but hitting his ear.
01:13:16.000We were but millimeters away from Trump losing his life.
01:13:20.000I can't discount everything that Tucker Carlson was suggesting when he was saying something like that is predictable because of what's happening before it.
01:13:28.000That is to say, The presumption is there are powerful forces that have tried every means possible to stop Donald Trump.
01:13:50.000They've changed the rules every single step of the way just to say, we can and we will.
01:13:55.000In Georgia, they're going after Donald Trump.
01:13:58.000The federal documents case, they went for Trump.
01:14:00.000Now, of course, that one was recently defeated.
01:14:01.000Trump is winning every step of the way.
01:14:04.000The speculation around the presidential immunity ruling from the Supreme Court was that they would say, of course, the president enjoys immunity as to his constitutional duties.
01:14:13.000But for anything outside that, he does not.
01:14:16.000What I didn't see any pundit predict was that they would additionally say, you cannot use any action that was in an official capacity as evidence of wrongdoing.
01:14:26.000Which basically crushed the Hush Money case in New York, postponing the sentencing, and allowing Donald Trump not to be sentenced to prison on July 11th, right before the RNC, where he was of course going to give his speech, accept the nomination, be the presidential nominee, and name his VP, and then two days after that...
01:14:44.000He gets shot in the ear in an unprecedented security failure, the likes of which you have never seen, and makes no sense to former Secret Service, like Dan Bongino, former Army snipers.
01:14:56.000I believe Eli Crane was an Army sniper.
01:14:57.000There have been many people who have commented on this, who are in Congress, I believe Corey Mills as well, saying none of this makes sense.
01:15:06.000Dan Bongino pointing out that at Secret Service you'd block line of sight if you couldn't secure the roof.
01:15:16.000And so my fear is, there's a reason Tucker Carlson made the prediction in September that he did, and they attacked him for it, but sure enough ended up happening.
01:15:24.000Now we are looking at, we know for a fact, those of us that are watching, that New York is just, there's no law.
01:15:55.000At what point does the system just one day people wake up and they say there isn't one.
01:16:01.000You know, what concerns me about the Trump attempted assassination of Trump is like, I think this machine, this deep state is trying to remove threats to its process, whether it be Donald Trump or Joe Biden.
01:16:13.000And when Joe Biden refused to step down, Then a couple days later he had a stroke.
01:16:17.000Is this confirmed he had a mini-stroke?
01:16:21.000It's not confirmed that he had a mini-stroke, but I do think it's fair to say that it is confirmed Joe Biden suffered a medical emergency.
01:16:27.000So he refuses to step down, they want him to step down, he refuses, and then has a medical emergency.
01:16:32.000I find assassination attempts can happen with more than bullets, they can happen with poisonings.
01:16:36.000Like, I don't put it past this system, and I don't even know who it is.
01:16:39.000The biggest problem is, like, it's the shadows.
01:16:42.000How do you defend against the shadows?
01:16:44.000Like, it's been around for tens of thousands of years, just really running the show and allowing kings to be in position?
01:16:50.000It's not just, the shadow does not refer to a single person.
01:16:52.000The element of surprise is a major component for any kind of conflict.
01:16:56.000So, it could be one guy today, a second guy tomorrow, it could be a woman today, it could be a different woman tomorrow, you just don't know.
01:17:03.000Now, personally, I hear what you're saying on Joe Biden and how they may have tried to stop him.
01:18:03.000And if they don't, and I suspect they won't do anything, we are inching towards a reality where people on the right are going to say, Washington is illegitimate because they don't actually uphold or enforce the law.
01:18:16.000They are no different than roving bands of bad guys with guns.
01:18:22.000Federal law enforcement raiding Donald Trump but ignoring Joe Biden?
01:18:25.000They're not acting as if they're agents under the law, bringing accountability and equality under the law.
01:18:33.000They're quite literally just dudes with guns enforcing mandate from Democratic Party officials.
01:18:40.000I have a lot of hope with the Supreme Court right now, only that because they are demanding New York respond.
01:18:45.000They didn't have to issue that demand, as far as I understand.
01:18:48.000Yeah, I mean, they didn't have to accept our filing.
01:18:50.000They could have just dismissed the filing on the pleadings and said, no, Missouri, we're not going to have this lawsuit.
01:18:55.000So I mean, yeah, look, this is moving in a positive direction in the sense that we're going to have a chance to Have some of these issues litigated.
01:19:04.000And again, I think that the Supreme Court, you know, one way they could kind of sidestep the issue is to pause on a ruling until such time as the state court in New York takes action at sentencing.
01:19:19.000Because if the court sentences President Trump, the court should do the right thing, just dismiss the indictment, vacate the judgment, turn him loose.
01:19:28.000But if the court doesn't do that, the trial court could say, well, President Trump, you're on bench probation supervised by the court with no conditions.
01:19:35.000Well, then he can talk again and he can be campaigning again and he can have his appeal play out.
01:19:39.000And then that kind of lessens the impact.
01:19:44.000Like the gag order is supposed to protect the defendant's right to a fair trial.
01:19:46.000The state asked for the gag order and the trial's over.
01:19:49.000It's a funny thing about the delaying sentencing, which is like on the one hand, you know, Trump not in prison or doing whatever, you know, getting to be out when a lot of people were really scared about what would happen to him.
01:19:59.000On the other hand, it just allows this gag order to remain in place, which, like you've pointed out, is actually benefiting the prosecution.
01:20:05.000It allows the gag order to stay in place and it also heightens the harm under the Purcell claim.
01:20:11.000I'm glad you're here because you are an officer of the law and you obviously appreciate law.
01:21:23.000There's a lot of people who have this idea in their minds that the founding fathers got together and said, you know, this king's kind of a dick.
01:21:51.000And then in response to the fighting, which was started by the Crown, for the most part, I mean, they were an oppressive force, you end up with the Continental Army forming, and a war emerging just naturally out of chaos, before finally, the Founding Fathers are like, eh, we're going to declare independence, I guess.
01:22:10.000They've been fighting for a year at that point.
01:22:11.000And they would have, anecdotally, or at least as a sidestep, they would have had no chance without the French.
01:22:21.000It was basically a proxy war between France and Spain against England.
01:22:24.000And the French and the Spanish used the United States as like Vietnam to wipe out the English, destroy their navy, and then they were like, yeah, and we dig liberties.
01:22:32.000So like Beaumarchais, you know, heroes of the French.
01:22:35.000Well, yeah, I mean, so if the king had reconciled himself to the law, done, then there could have been a reconciliation between the colonists and the crown.
01:22:47.000But it was, to your point, it was that continual, like, further movement down the path of chaos and lawlessness that resulted in this exacerbation of the problem.
01:22:56.000The Crown's saying, it's Parliament, don't look at me.
01:23:00.000And then Parliament is like, we control the colonies.
01:23:03.000And the colonies were like, okay, now you don't.
01:23:06.000Imagine what would have happened in global, in world history, if the Crown and Parliament in Great Britain said, colonists, we hear what you're saying.
01:24:21.000Steve Bannon was ordered to answer a congressional subpoena, and he said, I can't, under executive privilege, and then eventually they said, then we're going to charge you for it.
01:24:30.000I think that's BS, but fine, if that's what they're doing.
01:24:33.000Merrick Garland also rejected a congressional subpoena.
01:24:37.000Okay, fine, well, he should be charged.
01:25:22.000It is the Democrats, Joe Biden, with her investigation, not being charged for the classified documents, and Merrick Garland not going to prison despite the fact that he literally broke the law.
01:25:32.000So the negotiation is, if we want a system to be maintained, you have to participate.
01:27:15.000And before Trump was even the nominee, someone at a rally tried grabbing the gun from a police officer Deep State's been against him since day one.
01:27:25.000in the beginning they were like trying to slant him in the media and push him
01:27:28.000down that way and then it slowly escalated to where we're at right now.
01:27:31.000Deep State's been against him since day one he's taken everything they've thrown
01:27:35.000at him to include a would-be assassins bullet and is stronger than ever.
01:29:19.000I mean, it's not just... Look, the big tech marketplace behaves differently than any other marketplace because of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which has created this oligarchy of big tech moguls.
01:29:31.000And so that marketplace is untethered from the normal market impulses that would prevent things like censorship and that would provide things like transparency for consumers to know the quality of and components of the products, goods or services they're purchasing, right?
01:29:46.000Those don't exist in the big tech marketplace because Section 230 of the CDA has been misinterpreted.
01:29:50.000And that has allowed not only government censorship, which violates the First Amendment, but corporate censorship.
01:29:55.000That again, your shadow ban, de-platform, de-emphasize, and it's not just your rights as a speaker that are being violated, but your listeners' rights as well.
01:30:03.000And again, it's more pernicious than at any point in human history because the medium of communication is so much more dynamic and it's done in a clandestine manner.
01:30:11.000And so, as state attorneys general, we need to find tools in our toolbox to help fix that problem.
01:30:18.000I think that consumer protection law and I think that antitrust law are two options that we're looking at in Missouri.
01:30:25.000Do you feel like people realize the importance of the Attorney General when they're going to vote?
01:30:29.000Because basically, from what you're saying, you have the ability to impact people's lives in so many ways.
01:30:35.000In this conversation, we've bounced from the election to stuff that's going on in Missouri, but also you've done stuff with Planned Parenthood, with consumer protection.
01:30:43.000It seems like maybe this is an office that people don't pay enough attention to.
01:30:46.000I think that people in the state of Missouri have started paying a lot more attention based on the work that my predecessors, Josh Hawley and Eric Schmidt have, you know, they leave behind a legacy of excellence that I'm carrying on and proud to be doing that.
01:30:58.000And we build off of that and take it in new and different directions.
01:31:03.000And so I think people are starting to pay attention and see how important it is.
01:31:06.000And you said that Josh Hawley was your law professor and he also has endorsed you for
01:32:12.000And again, some of this is being done at the government's demand.
01:32:15.000Some of this is government coerced censorship, as we've proven in Missouri v. Biden.
01:32:19.000And now that we're back at the trial court level, we can use merits discovery to root out that vast censorship enterprise.
01:32:24.000We need to build a wall of separation between tech and state to protect our First Amendment rights of free speech from government censorship.
01:32:31.000But separate issue is the corporate censorship.
01:32:34.000And I still think that there are tools at our disposal now, unless and until Congress takes action to amend or repeal Section 230 of the CDA.
01:32:42.000It could be amended, I don't think it needs to be repealed, or it could simply be ruled on by the Supreme Court.
01:32:50.000The issue is not that Tech platforms, online web service providers, have immunity.
01:32:57.000The issue is that they also have, Section 230 gives them not just the immunity, but the right to police as they see objectionable.
01:33:24.000I think that's, because right now what's happening is, you know, you've got X.com and they're like, oh, um, you know, we can remove whatever we want and we can't be sued because that's not our speech.
01:33:32.000So they selectively remove all the opinions of people who think like, there's only two genders.
01:33:37.000That was actually one of the big things they did.
01:33:44.000It, by, by, by, uh, you know, filtering the information flow in what has become the public square.
01:33:51.000And the remedy for disfavored speech in this country has traditionally been counter speech, not censorship, certainly not government censorship.
01:33:58.000Here's a funny component of Section 230 as it works under the law.
01:34:02.000If I make a news website, or if the New York Times created a space on the front page, a small space, and they said, any user can write content and submit it, and it may appear in that box.
01:34:16.000And so let's just say Tim Cass did it, right?
01:34:20.000Any user can write whatever they want.
01:35:09.000James Edward O'Keefe III is an American political activist who founded Project Veritas, a far-right activist group that uses deceptively edited videos and information gathering techniques to attack mainstream media organizations and progressive groups.
01:35:20.000Both O'Keefe and Project Veritas have produced secretly recorded undercover audio and video, encounters in academic, governmental, etc., etc., etc.
01:35:26.000So, it is my understanding James O'Keefe takes issue with this Wikipedia page in that it falsely characterizes and demeans, defames, and libels The argument that I was told is that you can't sue Wikipedia.
01:36:02.000On Twitter, If Ian Crossland posts, it says, Ian Crossland, and then under it says, I just plain don't like graphene.
01:36:10.000And then, you can't sue Twitter, or Axe now, because it's under Ian's name, he said this.
01:36:17.000My argument is, Wikipedia may allow users to write whatever they want.
01:36:23.000That's on the back end, when you view the source.
01:36:26.000When you look at the source material, of how it's written up, and it's got users' names next to it in the history, that's what's protected.
01:36:34.000So if you click View History on this, these individual posts, this is the Twitter of Wikipedia.
01:36:39.000The username and the thing they wrote.
01:36:42.000However, they then, as Wikipedia and entity themselves, write that the article in aggregate is from them, specifically.
01:36:51.000I believe there's a strong case to sue Wikipedia making that argument.
01:37:11.000And to your point, I mean, from a consumer protection angle, It's too hard to understand the label.
01:37:19.000It's too hard to understand how consumers, the information consumers need to qualify whether or not to believe this is not readily available to us.
01:37:52.000We need to see Wikipedia sued because they are asserting this.
01:37:58.000Now, in this instance, James O'Keefe himself would have to sue Wikipedia for defamation and say, this isn't a user-generated page.
01:38:05.000When users generate content akin to what Twitter is, where you can see the user's name and their arguments and the things they've wrote, that's Twitter.
01:38:29.000And I don't know if you're an expert on this as a lawyer, but... So if I worked at the New York Times, and I said, I'm going to create a draft article in the New York Times backend, and I will let anyone write anything they want, However, as a super user, I can selectively edit and remove things that don't follow my rules.
01:38:49.000Then, once they write a story about Kamala Harris kicking a dog, I say, okay, publish.
01:38:53.000And it says, Kamala Harris kicked dogs by the New York Times.
01:38:56.000That is not protected under Section 230, right?
01:39:29.000You know, I think at the top, where it says, from Wikipedia, it should actually say, from 7,400 users, and there should be a hyperlink that should take you to them, and it should say, super users, it has to... This article has been edited this many times.
01:39:40.000Yeah, and then you'll be able to sue the individual people for defamation, not the website.
01:39:44.000This is the problem right now, is when I asked, okay, On Twitter, on X, if Ian defames me, I can sue Ian, right?
01:40:16.000What if someone wrote Kamala, the next person wrote Harris, the next person wrote Kix, the next person wrote Dog, and then it publishes an article?
01:41:12.000And you go, I didn't say she kicked a dog, I just wrote the word kick.
01:41:15.000Someone else wrote Kamala Harris and dog, that wasn't me, so I didn't make the statement.
01:41:19.000What court is going to agree with that?
01:41:21.000Right, you'd have to go with the timestamp you'd see if you actually did put the word kicks in to fill that sentence out.
01:41:26.000In which case, you as adding anything to that article and clicking publish you're not publishing one word you're publishing the whole article as a statement from yourself as a user.
01:42:36.000So what's happening is the left, predominantly leftist liberal activists, go on Wikipedia and put bunk sources and lie, cheat, and steal all through this stuff, like James O'Keefe.
01:43:06.000Is all the software code free on this thing?
01:43:08.000Yes, Wikipedia is completely open source.
01:43:10.000Because then someone can spin up a clone of the site, like Wikipedia, and then people will start using Wikipedia because it's less... The Wikipedia system is used for everything.
01:43:21.000Have you ever gone to, like, Star Trek Wikipedia?
01:44:00.000Tim is Controlled Opposition says, if Kamala turns on Israel, she's got my vote.
01:44:06.000That is what I refer to as Israel Derangement Syndrome.
01:44:09.000The idea that Kamala, who is not qualified, who is, I mean, also just deeply uncharismatic, openly corrupt, accused of sleeping her way into politics, the idea that you would support a person because she hates Israel, suggests that you have an emotional disturbance pertaining,
01:44:26.000internally, pertaining to Israel by which you would be willing to damage your own country
01:44:32.000if it means that you get to insult another country.
01:44:34.000She turns on Israel, she insults another country.
01:44:37.000That's anti-America First. That's America Last.
01:44:41.000That you're voting for someone who hates another country but doesn't support your own?
01:45:08.000I actually think this is one of the things that will be interesting when it comes to see who she taps to be her VP.
01:45:15.000Because that person, you know, there's a rumor going around, there could be anybody, a ton of governors are on the shortlist, but there's a rumor that she might pick someone who has more diplomatic and national security expertise to balance out her shortcomings and their stance on any kind of, not just Israel, but like Ukraine, you know, Taiwan, any sort of geopolitical conflict would be telling.
01:45:37.000Max Reddick says, Tim, Destiny is saying some reputation-damaging comments about you.
01:45:41.000He made a video claiming that you maliciously lied about your no-go zone coverage in Sweden.
01:45:51.000Something pertaining to his wife leaving him.
01:45:52.000I don't know too much about it because I don't care for, you know, low-tier e-drama streamers, but he's particularly upset.
01:45:59.000Because we said on the show last week, he would not be welcome on this show ever again.
01:46:03.000Not because I have any personal beef with him, but because it is against the rules of every platform to glorify or advocate for the death of other individuals.
01:46:12.000And for that reason, I'm hearing other podcasts saying they don't want to work with him, because if he says that on the show, they will get a strike or they will get banned.
01:46:19.000So, I can't say too much about... He can say whatever he wants.
01:46:26.000The biggest mistake anyone can make, if they're talking to me, and they want to be friends with me, is to let me know that strangers on the internet are saying naughty things about me.
01:46:50.000We are privileged, and we have the honor of sitting here with an attorney general talking about lawsuits at the federal level to defend election integrity.
01:47:00.000So, by all means, if low-tier streamers want to complain and get into e-drama, they're allowed to do it.
01:47:07.000We're gonna try and have serious conversations to the best of our abilities with great people who are... Well, I mean, I think you might be the only guy who's actually... Ken Paxton's doing a lot of good stuff, but we appreciate the work you do.
01:47:17.000And you've done stuff with Patrick Morrissey, the AG of West Virginia, right?
01:48:04.000The idea would be to go out and ask people, like, hey, are you a liberal or conservative?
01:48:07.000Would you like to come on a game show, political trivia, news and politics trivia show, and you win prizes and we'll have cash prizes and stuff?
01:48:36.000But I guarantee you, if we did a political game show with run-of-the-mill conservatives and run-of-the-mill liberals, the conservatives would win 6 out of 10, 7 out of 10.
01:48:46.000You ask real simple questions about Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Volodymyr Zelensky, Vladimir Putin, and they're going to be able to answer at a higher rate than liberals.
01:50:05.000I mean, we could be seeing more state-level actions challenging what's going on, and it seems like you're definitely doing the most.
01:50:14.000With all due respect to Ken Paxton and Morrissey, I know that there's action being done, but it seems like you're in the running, charging ahead in front of everybody else.
01:50:23.000You know, I've got great colleagues, but yeah, at the end of the day, we're gonna do the right things for the people of the state of Missouri, and proud to be leading the charge on some of these issues.
01:50:47.000Look, I'm proud to have four or five states that signed an amicus brief in support.
01:50:53.000Montana, Alaska, Florida, Iowa were all involved in filing an amicus brief in support of our lawsuit against New York.
01:51:00.000I think at the end of the day, as this case progresses, you're going to see more attention and have other opportunities for other states to get on board.
01:51:10.000I think the important thing to remember here is each state has different legal authority for their Attorney General that's guided by the state constitution and state law.
01:51:18.000And so again, like the weapons were issued are determined by our General Assembly and the people of our states and I just have a unique set of, I have a unique arsenal to use.
01:51:28.000Do people come to you and say like, you were mentioning before, people are calling your office saying, can I even, is Trump going to be on the ballot?
01:51:35.000Is it enough to just go to the attorney generals with the things that you are concerned about?
01:51:39.000Maybe they don't have the authority to take the exact action that maybe you're taking, but part of it is just being in contact.
01:51:52.000Calling the office over and over again kind of thing?
01:51:55.000I mean yeah we track our constituent service inquiries and we actually have folks can sign up for like newsletters and like we will even target if you're interested in a particular topic like pro-life issues then whenever we take pro-life action we will email you that stuff.
01:52:08.000We also have a website that we've redone in order to make it more user-friendly where you can file complaints and reach out and so we do everything we can to do outreach to the folks and allow them.
01:52:18.000For the folks to get in touch with their office.
01:52:35.000I'm trying to build coalitions of like-minded state attorneys general.
01:52:41.000I think your office in particular deserves credit for the fact that you're just so on the ball on X. I mean, whenever you have a press release go out, it's great to see because it's You know, right there, and you have so much information.
01:52:52.000You have all the links anyone needs, like, to be informed.
01:52:55.000I assume Missouri voters, not everyone's on X, but a lot of people rely on it, especially reporters.
01:52:59.000Like, just being able to get the message out quickly is amazing.
01:54:38.000Were the people of Missouri aware that you'd be doing such a good job when they voted for you?
01:54:43.000What I mean is, it might sound a little silly, but There's people who are in office where you run in somewhat normal times, on a normal position, and then when you come to this extreme and egregious of lawfare actions, I see you as rising up to the challenge and doing what every other state should be doing to challenge what we see in New York, what the Biden administration is doing.
01:55:04.000So I wonder if, when you were campaigning, were you saying like, I'm going to start filing these suits against the government for the BS they're doing.
01:55:13.000You know, I was appointed to my office when Eric Schmidt was elected to the United States Senate.
01:55:19.000I'm filling out the remainder of the unexpired portion of his term and running for my own term.
01:55:47.000I think your story is so interesting because, you know, you got appointed to take over this term.
01:55:50.000I keep saying re-elected, but really it's just to return to the office you're currently in, elected for the first time.
01:55:55.000But again, like, you came in sort of guns blazing, so to speak.
01:55:59.000I mean, I think a lot of people who were taking over a term that they weren't elected to might be like, well, I'm going to play it cautious and then I'll get re-elected.
01:56:04.000And you were like, no, people want me to do this and I'll act now.
01:56:06.000I was just put in the batting order in the World Series.
01:56:12.000Yeah, I'm unfettered from those normal considerations that might inhibit my audacity.
01:56:19.000I wonder if a lot of the people who get elected, their first term is building coalitions, but also making agreements with certain political action committees and things like this.
01:56:30.000You come in and you're like, I got a job to do.
01:56:37.000I'm not beholden to any special interest groups.
01:56:38.000I'm not beholden to any entity that might otherwise, again, stymie forward progress on issues that are important to the people.
01:56:44.000For the first part of the question, we did talk about it quite a bit already, but I'll give you just a real simple version if you want to give us a quick answer.
01:56:50.000Do you see a risk of some kind of peaceful divorce or Balkanization in the U.S.
01:56:57.000I think people are fed up and tired of it.
01:56:59.000I think that, again, the government exists to protect our rights, and we see government weaponized time and time again against us.
01:57:06.000And when you have people that feel like they don't have a voice in the process, whether it be because we have unelected bureaucrats passing laws instead of the people's elected representatives, or this shadow government who's running things in a deep state that we can't trust, those things make people not want to participate.
01:57:19.000And withdraw, and that's enormously problematic.
01:57:22.000We've got to get back to a place where we elevate the rules of the game above the players and the outcomes.
01:57:26.000It's a rule of law issue, as you so clearly articulated in your analysis earlier.
01:57:57.000Yeah, look, we're going to use every tool at our disposal to make sure that contributions that are solicited in the state of Missouri are not done so under false pretenses.
01:58:06.000You've seen that in our work on the Media Matters case and other cases.
01:58:09.000We're willing to take bold action in that space.
01:58:11.000There's a viral tweet going around right now, we didn't get into it because I don't know if it's confirmed or not, that the donations to Kamala Their arguing came from one billionaire who broke it up and was illicitly, it was being illicitly sent through hundreds of thousands of individuals.
01:58:25.000James O'Keefe had an investigation where he went to people's homes and he said, how come you donated 57,000 times $5?
01:59:31.000Because if a billionaire gave $10,000 to a thousand people and then they all gave that money to a candidate, if there was consideration ahead of time... Well, and if there was an intent to evade campaign finance law, okay, then we got a problem.
01:59:43.000So if a billionaire gave a hundred thousand people, you know, a thousand bucks each or whatever, and then said, See you later.
02:00:21.000We're going to have member call-ins, and we're going to talk about some serious issues, but I'm curious as to what you guys have to say and ask.
02:00:45.000Check us out at ago.mo.com on the official side, and you can sign up to get news about the work we're doing, or if you live in the state of Missouri and have a consumer complaint or other issue, we've provided forms and points of contact there on the website.
02:01:28.000I feel like I have to tell everyone that you didn't actually know your own ex-handle because you're so focused on what you're doing, I guess.
02:01:34.000And you're like, we have to ask my staff members really quick.