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00:00:00.000 Joe Biden's alive.

00:00:11.000 Yeah, he was he was seen getting out of a car and boarding a plane.

00:00:14.000 So he is alive.

00:00:15.000 And I kind of have that normalcy bias, like I expected it.

00:00:19.000 But considering we've been through, I guess what, like a couple dozen unprecedented historical moments.

00:00:25.000 I thought it was possible that he just never shows up again.

00:00:28.000 He didn't really speak, though, so it is what it is.

00:00:30.000 We'll talk about that.

00:00:31.000 Kamala Harris has secured the nomination, at least in essence, calling herself the presumptive nominee.

00:00:37.000 She's got enough delegates pledged to support her. 1.00

00:00:40.000 She's winning the prediction markets, but she may not get access to Joe Biden's funds because I believe Trump's campaign Republicans and Democrats are arguing you cannot transfer funding from Joe Biden's donations to her, so all the Biden HQ donations might get refunded to their donors, which could be big.

00:00:57.000 And then, of course, we've got the big funny story.

00:01:01.000 Black Lives Matter slams the DNC for installing Kamala Harris.

00:01:06.000 And why this is oh so funny is that Joy Reid is basically saying, if you don't vote for Kamala Harris, you ain't black.

00:01:12.000 She didn't say it literally like that, but that's basically what she's saying.

00:01:14.000 So we'll talk about that, plus we're going to talk about the lawsuit against New York for interfering in the election.

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00:02:22.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Attorney General Andrew Bailey.

00:02:26.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:02:27.000 I really appreciate it.

00:02:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:02:29.000 Do you want to just give a quick introduction to who you are and what you do?

00:02:32.000 Yeah, man.

00:02:33.000 I'm the Attorney General for the state of Missouri, and so I represent the state and the people of the state.

00:02:38.000 We're the law firm for the state of Missouri, and we've done a lot of work since I've been in office, not only protecting Missouri consumers against fraudulent business practices and prosecuting criminals.

00:02:47.000 We removed the Soros-backed prosecutor in the city of St.

00:02:49.000 Louis who was refusing to do her job.

00:02:51.000 It's the first time a state Attorney General has We've taken legal action against a Soros-backed prosecutor.

00:02:56.000 We've increased criminal prosecution statewide by 133%.

00:02:58.000 So real tangible results were from the Show Me State.

00:03:03.000 Results matter.

00:03:04.000 And we've taken on the Biden administration.

00:03:05.000 I mean, more than 50 lawsuits against the Biden administration and the federal overreach that we see coming out of Washington DC right now.

00:03:11.000 There's no sanction in the United States Constitution for an unelected fourth branch of government.

00:03:15.000 And so using lawsuits to assert state sovereignty and push back against that federal overreach when you've got that alphabet soup of bureaucratic agencies infringing on our rights, it's really critical to the work we do.

00:03:26.000 You know, one of the most important lawsuits I've filed is our lawsuit against the state of New York to stop a rogue prosecutor and collusive judiciary from hijacking our national election.

00:03:37.000 I'll tell you, this lawfare against President Trump is poisoning our democratic process.

00:03:41.000 We're using every tool at our disposal to fight back.

00:03:43.000 Right on.

00:03:44.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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00:03:46.000 Well, speaking of poisoning, I wonder if Biden was poisoned.

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00:04:29.000 BLM, Black Lives Matter, pans DNC as party of hypocrites for installing VP Harris as Democratic nominee. 0.98

00:04:36.000 We do not live in a dictatorship. 0.90

00:04:38.000 Delegates are not oligarchs.

00:04:41.000 I have tremendous respect for whoever took over that Twitter account, that X account, and is calling out the DNC for doing exactly what we've been calling them out for.

00:04:49.000 We have this thread from Black Lives Matter on X, verified account.

00:04:54.000 How many followers?

00:04:54.000 They got a million followers.

00:04:56.000 Sunday Joe Biden drops out.

00:04:58.000 Kamala announces campaign with Biden endorsement.

00:05:00.000 Kamala says she's going to work hard to earn the nomination.

00:05:03.000 Kamala makes calls to party delegates Monday.

00:05:06.000 Kamala Harris continues making calls to party delegates.

00:05:08.000 Kamala Harris makes two public speeches.

00:05:10.000 The Associated Press announces Kamala Harris has secured enough delegates to be the nominee

00:05:14.000 by Monday night.

00:05:15.000 Kamala releases a statement noting she has worked hard to go out and earn this nomination

00:05:20.000 as promised.

00:05:21.000 A 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of.

00:05:27.000 We do not live in a dictatorship.

00:05:29.000 Delegates are not oligarchs. 0.97

00:05:31.000 Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites.

00:05:40.000 We call on the DNC to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates.

00:05:47.000 Here, here, Black Lives Matter, and I want to say this, we were just at the RNC, the Republican National Convention, and it was a whole lot of fun.

00:05:55.000 Had a cheeseburger with a gluten-free bun.

00:05:57.000 How about that?

00:05:58.000 And many people asked if we're going to be at the Democratic National Convention, to which I said, absolutely not, because I've grown quite fond of living.

00:06:05.000 I do not want to go to the DNC, where it's going to be violent and chaotic.

00:06:09.000 Several people asked me, why would the DNC be more chaotic than the RNC?

00:06:14.000 Wouldn't the left protest the right?

00:06:16.000 Absolutely not.

00:06:17.000 There were some protesters, they stood outside, they waved little flags, and they complained, and they said Donald Trump should be in prison, and we said okay, and that was it.

00:06:25.000 The DNC is the door for the far-left extremists.

00:06:30.000 The far-left protesting the RNC is basically them trying to scale the Great Wall, and to break their way in.

00:06:35.000 That's an absurdity.

00:06:37.000 The Democratic Party, however, is a door guarded by a few party elites that they feel they can break down.

00:06:42.000 Now that Kamala Harris is trying to play the, I-just-get-to-be-the-nominee game, and the progressive far-left wing, especially with that protest we saw in DC of the anti-Israel groups taking over, these people are not going to accept this.

00:06:55.000 So it's going to be a brokered convention, And just like in 1968, it will be a brokered convention, and they also expect it is going to be bedlam outside.

00:07:05.000 What's a brokered convention?

00:07:07.000 There's no stated—so normally in a primary process, everybody votes.

00:07:12.000 The delegates from the area where the vote takes place are pledged to support the person people voted for, kind of like the Electoral College.

00:07:18.000 So you've got like five delegates in one area, and they say everybody votes for Joe Biden.

00:07:22.000 Those delegates are loyal to Biden.

00:07:24.000 They show up at the convention, and they cast their vote.

00:07:27.000 A brokered convention.

00:07:28.000 They can do whatever they want.

00:07:29.000 There's no nominee.

00:07:30.000 So Kamala Harris calls up all these delegates and says, you're gonna vote for me?

00:07:33.000 And they said, you got it.

00:07:34.000 And she publicly announces, I've got the nomination.

00:07:37.000 So the far left is not going to have it.

00:07:40.000 It deters anyone else from challenging her.

00:07:40.000 Right.

00:07:42.000 It was amazing to me how quickly everyone sort of got in line behind Kamala Harris, who, let's remember, was a farther left option who did not make it very far when she ran her own presidential campaign.

00:07:54.000 But it's like, of the 47 Democrats in the Senate, 45 had already thrown out endorsements for her.

00:08:00.000 One of the only ones who hadn't, well, one was Bob Menendez, who's, you know, going to resign, or has resigned, and he was found guilty.

00:08:07.000 So he's kind of in an outward position anyways.

00:08:09.000 But then also it's Jon Tester from Montana who probably can't come out and endorse Harris because he's in a state that is likely going to get flipped.

00:08:19.000 I mean, there is a very serious belief that that will become a Republican seat.

00:08:22.000 And then in the House, it's like, You know, I think in total I have 192 people have already endorsed, of like 212, have endorsed Harris.

00:08:30.000 I mean, they just fell in line so quickly, including Chuck Schumer, who waited 48 hours and then said, now that the process has played out, we're going to endorse Harris, which is like, what process?

00:08:39.000 And do you see when he clapped for himself and nobody clapped?

00:08:42.000 Kamala won, and then no one clapped.

00:08:43.000 I was like, OK, I'm clapping.

00:08:45.000 On my drive over here, I was like, OK, this is the party that's been screaming about protecting democracy.

00:08:49.000 We have to stop the threat to democracy.

00:08:52.000 Then a candidate gets installed.

00:08:55.000 And I see people posting about how grateful they are that a candidate got installed threatening the democratic process for the people that are afraid of the threat to democracy.

00:09:04.000 You know, there were complaints in 2016 when Hillary Clinton, it seemed like the process was rigged in 2016.

00:09:10.000 And so then to be reliving that... Seemed like.

00:09:13.000 Yeah, I mean, it clearly was rigged in 2016.

00:09:15.000 And yeah, I mean, this is even worse.

00:09:17.000 I mean, at least that played out over a primary season.

00:09:20.000 And here it's like this bait and switch where there have been primaries and caucuses for Biden.

00:09:25.000 And then, like you said, overnight turn of a switch.

00:09:27.000 I think it is... I think it was the plan.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, I mean... Because you look at 2016, we know that there were a series of, let's just call them awkward moments.

00:09:36.000 And I'll clarify this too, rigged.

00:09:38.000 Of course, the far left and the media is going to attack that by making the claim that we're saying Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton went behind closed doors and shifted votes.

00:09:46.000 No, no, no, no.

00:09:47.000 The media was colluding.

00:09:49.000 The party officials were working to the greatest extent imaginable to block Bernie Sanders.

00:09:53.000 We know that like Hillary Clinton was given the questions in advance by, I think it was Donna Brazile, I could be wrong.

00:09:57.000 It's been a long time.

00:09:58.000 Donna Brazile.

00:09:59.000 Yeah, and then you had the Wikileaks emails, Wikileaks released the emails, and we saw great party collusion to block Bernie Sanders, the popular Democratic choice.

00:10:09.000 Once again, in 2020, all these candidates unite against Bernie Sanders, endorse Joe Biden to shift all those votes.

00:10:16.000 And I think the reason they did This structure, keeping Joe Biden as long as possible, was to block any other grassroots contender, because let's be real, RFK Jr.

00:10:25.000 would be the Democratic nominee were it not for this game they played.

00:10:30.000 Kamala Harris could not get a single—what did she not get? 1.00

00:10:32.000 A single delegate.

00:10:33.000 Not one.

00:10:34.000 She drops out in disgrace, and now she's the nominee?

00:10:37.000 By what metric should she be the nominee?

00:10:40.000 Black Lives Matter, bravo for calling her out. 0.99

00:10:43.000 But I'll say it, Chicago is going to be... Let's just pray for our friends and families in Chicago.

00:10:49.000 I've been praying for Donald Trump, to be honest, for his safety and his health, because if something were to happen to him, I'm like wargaming in my mind, who would become the Republican nominee?

00:10:57.000 Would it be Vivek?

00:10:58.000 Would it be J.D.

00:10:59.000 Vance at this point?

00:11:00.000 Would it be...

00:11:01.000 Would it be Nikki Haley, and then she's more salvageable than Kamala, and then we get Nikki Haley and Pompeo as the VP, President, VP, and then they take us into war with Iran, like... Real quick, what do you mean salvageable?

00:11:12.000 Do you mean, like, she'll be worse than...?

00:11:13.000 No, like, more palatable, I guess is a better word.

00:11:16.000 Nikki Haley would be more palatable than this girl who got no delegates in her first attempt when her campaign was completely sunk in like a three minute diatribe by Tulsi Gabbard talking about her record in California, imprisoning, like keeping people in prison for slave labor, arresting people. 0.97

00:11:32.000 It was an amazing moment from Tulsi Gabbard.

00:11:35.000 Really highly recommend watching that clip again, but I pray for Trump's safety and for a legitimate process right now.

00:11:44.000 Yeah, dripping with irony that the left continues to attack our democratic processes while screaming about being the sacred guardians of democracy.

00:11:52.000 Right now, you've got Donald Trump, who was chosen for the Republican Party by popular mandate.

00:11:56.000 They held a primary process.

00:11:57.000 Nikki Haley was involved.

00:11:59.000 Vivek Ramaswamy was involved.

00:12:01.000 You had Ron DeSantis.

00:12:03.000 That was a real primary.

00:12:04.000 In the early days of the primary, I remember when we were in Des Moines, Iowa, Vivek was legitimately like, I want to win.

00:12:12.000 Nikki Haley is running.

00:12:13.000 We were hoping Vivek would beat Nikki Haley, but we still wanted Trump to win.

00:12:16.000 And he's buying up BuzzFeed.

00:12:17.000 I mean, he is really committed to what he said he was going to do, which is he wanted to change culture.

00:12:21.000 out and has now taken an amazing role.

00:12:24.000 I don't know what his official role is, is he working with Trump or whatever, but he's

00:12:27.000 been very active in Republican Party politics, has been speaking at many conventions.

00:12:31.000 And he's buying up BuzzFeed.

00:12:32.000 I mean, he is really committed to what he said he was going to do, which is he wanted

00:12:35.000 to change culture.

00:12:36.000 I think that's commendable.

00:12:37.000 Even Nikki Haley has now endorsed Donald Trump.

00:12:39.000 So they're all lining up saying, look, this is the people's choice.

00:12:42.000 The Democrats are doing the opposite.

00:12:45.000 And they're just like, you don't get to say, your choice was Joe Biden because that's the only person we allowed.

00:12:51.000 We ousted RFK Jr.

00:12:53.000 Now Biden's leaving because he's infirm.

00:12:56.000 And we're telling you it's Kamala.

00:12:58.000 It is the Democratic Party, anti-democratic, calling the party with actual democratic voting processes fascists.

00:13:07.000 One of the, so there's like less than, I think there's 12 members of Congress, less than 20, that have not, they've released statements on Biden leaving, but they haven't endorsed Kamala Harris.

00:13:17.000 And one of them is Rashida Tlaib. 0.99

00:13:19.000 And she's like the Palestinian American elected official.

00:13:22.000 And so I think there are actually more people who would have liked to see other options.

00:13:28.000 And there is probably pressure coming internally, like fall in line, do what we say.

00:13:32.000 Otherwise, we will potentially not support you in your race for re-election.

00:13:37.000 AG, you're voting for Trump, I'd imagine?

00:13:38.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:13:40.000 I'm curious about the pressure in the party, because I know for a long time you have this split.

00:13:45.000 You have Republicans who despise Donald Trump, but it seems like that's mostly shifted away as many members of the party at the higher level, like people who have been in elected office for a long time, have begun to accept that the people think he's the right choice.

00:13:58.000 Have you felt pressure from any groups to be like, early on with DeSantis, we don't want Trump.

00:14:03.000 Or has it been fairly easy to just say, look, I want to vote for Trump?

00:14:06.000 I mean, it's always been easy for me.

00:14:07.000 I was the first statewide official to endorse President Trump.

00:14:10.000 And it's because he leads a movement that puts Americans first and has led a movement that has expanded the Republican Party to places it wasn't going to go on its own and no one else was going to get us there.

00:14:21.000 Look at this guy.

00:14:22.000 You're voting for Trump, right?

00:14:24.000 I mean, the jury's out, man.

00:14:25.000 I don't know if I'm going to vote.

00:14:26.000 He's going to vote for Trump.

00:14:26.000 But I'll tell you what, I support the democratic process above all.

00:14:29.000 I mean, it's just we're at this point where A middle-of-the-road person is just like, well, I don't want to choose Coppola, you know, a Kamala Copp who was appointed.

00:14:41.000 Donald Trump, at least, there's a lot of people who are behind him, but no new wars?

00:14:44.000 I mean, you can throw everything out the window to say no new wars. 0.83

00:14:47.000 Of course, they're going to call Trump a fascist.

00:14:48.000 It's BS. 0.71

00:14:49.000 This whole, this concept, this logic, it's illogical that you need to override the democratic process to protect against the threat to democracy is insanity.

00:14:59.000 Truly, the definition of insanity.

00:15:00.000 Yeah, I mean they are focused on, they think that the ends justify the means.

00:15:06.000 And that violates basic rule of law principles, it violates, it's antithetical to who we are as an American people as a constitutional democratic republic.

00:15:14.000 How can people push back against this if they truly believe this is You know, I think taking action at the convention, to the extent, I think that's where people are going to sound off on this.

00:15:22.000 And you know, at the end of the day, the Democratic Party, like I said, you've had caucuses, you've had primaries, those people have spoken, and now their voice is being stifled in silence.

00:15:33.000 This has never been about a process, it's always been about control, to your point.

00:15:37.000 I'm, you know, I'm ready to join some of these protests.

00:15:40.000 I literally don't want to join a leftist protest because they're going to burn things down and hurt innocent people.

00:15:44.000 But I mean, in spirit, from the armchair level, I'm right there with, if Antifa shows up in Chicago to protest the Democratic Party, I support their peaceful endeavors, challenging the party and calling them out.

00:15:58.000 The DNC is as corrupt as they come.

00:16:00.000 It's been this bad since 2016.

00:16:02.000 And what drives me crazy is, I was for Bernie, 2015. 0.97

00:16:07.000 I was like, Donald Trump seemed like another, to me, he seemed like it was a clown show. 0.87

00:16:13.000 I was just like, I don't know what that is. 0.89

00:16:15.000 It does not seem real or legitimate.

00:16:16.000 It seems too jokey.

00:16:18.000 Hillary Clinton was... She actively was promoting war with Russia.

00:16:23.000 And now look where we are.

00:16:24.000 And I'm just like, none of these people make any sense.

00:16:26.000 And then comes Bernie Sanders, and he's just some like...

00:16:30.000 He wasn't worth a lot of money at the time.

00:16:32.000 He was advocating for workers' rights.

00:16:36.000 He had a lot in common with Donald Trump.

00:16:37.000 And I mean it.

00:16:38.000 Go back to 2015 and look at the policies they shared.

00:16:41.000 They both hated the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

00:16:43.000 They were in favor of better trade deals for the American worker.

00:16:46.000 Bernie Sanders said no open borders in 2015.

00:16:48.000 He said, that's a Koch Brothers proposal.

00:16:51.000 And he actually said, my God, if we open the borders, what would happen?

00:16:54.000 They'd all flood this country. 0.95

00:16:55.000 Not that I like Bernie now.

00:16:57.000 He's certainly abandoned those principles and shifted completely in the other direction.

00:17:01.000 But ultimately, my point is, here we are now.

00:17:05.000 At this point, I'm just like, the Democratic Party ousting him has proven there is no real process there for the people who want to see change.

00:17:13.000 But there are, and what irks me is, liberal pundits and personalities saying, we approve and accept the party choosing for us, and because we approve it, that's democracy.

00:17:23.000 You never gotta vote, you never gotta say, and that's why I'm totally out.

00:17:27.000 And so when you mention, Attorney General, that Donald Trump has expanded the party, look at me, many of our guests, you've got Libertarian, you've got Mises Caucus people now, who are saying they're gonna be voting for Donald Trump because he has been a popular president.

00:17:43.000 I think there's huge groups of people, huge swaths of this country that feel left out.

00:17:49.000 And Donald Trump has given them a voice.

00:17:52.000 They still love this country.

00:17:53.000 Kitchen table issues matter to them.

00:17:55.000 Donald Trump's the only one talking about those issues.

00:17:57.000 Kamala Harris isn't.

00:17:59.000 And if you feel left out, you feel like you don't have a voice in the process, and you see something like what we've seen over the past 72 hours with Kamala Harris.

00:18:07.000 That exacerbates that problem.

00:18:08.000 And I think that's going to continue to push people back to Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

00:18:12.000 She said, we were watching Fox and she's like, I'll put my record up against Trump's anytime.

00:18:17.000 And I was like, what, what did you do?

00:18:19.000 Like if Joe Biden wants to make claims about his executive orders and the things he's done, like, okay, I guess.

00:18:25.000 Biden has signed executive orders and has advocated.

00:18:27.000 What did Kamala Harris do? 1.00

00:18:29.000 She did nothing.

00:18:30.000 She didn't go.

00:18:32.000 She didn't go.

00:18:33.000 There's that interview where they're like, have you been to the border?

00:18:35.000 She says, we've been to the border.

00:18:36.000 And he's like, no, you haven't.

00:18:37.000 She's like, well, I've also never been to Europe.

00:18:38.000 Why is that relevant?

00:18:40.000 It's worse.

00:18:41.000 She's like, they keep saying, you know, we've never been to the border.

00:18:43.000 We have been to the border.

00:18:44.000 And he's like, but you haven't.

00:18:45.000 And then she goes, And I haven't been to Europe either.

00:18:48.000 Yeah, it's nonsensical.

00:18:49.000 The thing about Kamala Harris's campaign that I find fascinating is, and maybe you can unpack this for us, but they're starting to say, well, she was this tough prosecutor and therefore she can prosecute Donald Trump because he's done all these horrible things apparently.

00:19:02.000 But she also has to be in a position where she defends the Biden-Harris administration.

00:19:07.000 Remember, they never let us forget that she was there even when they had shuffled her sort of to the personnel background.

00:19:12.000 And so she's trying to run on her legacy as a prosecutor, which I have always heard right and left gets very mixed reviews, and also decide If she's going to stand by Joe Biden and say, I'm finishing the job he started, or if she's going to kind of attack this guy who has now just recommended her.

00:19:29.000 The calculations there must be crazy.

00:19:31.000 Do you think the American public will respond to her as a tough prosecutor?

00:19:35.000 No, I think she's going to own the failed policies of the Biden administration. 1.00

00:19:39.000 People are looking around.

00:19:40.000 And again, it's like it's almost back to school time and working families are like, how am I going to afford a new backpack and school lunches for my kids?

00:19:46.000 Like that stuff matters to people.

00:19:48.000 And, you know, the border crisis.

00:19:51.000 I mean, in Missouri alone, we've had 1,100 reported incidences of human trafficking in one year.

00:19:55.000 More than 1,500 deaths from fentanyl exposure in one year.

00:19:59.000 43 innocent children who died from fentanyl exposure in one year.

00:20:01.000 Those are real harm.

00:20:02.000 So, like, Biden's failures to secure our national sovereignty and his hanging an open sign at the southern border are making Missouri communities left safe.

00:20:09.000 Every state's a border state.

00:20:10.000 I mean, these things, again, they matter to everyday working Americans, and Kamala Harris is going to have to own those things. 1.00

00:20:17.000 While we got you here, I got a question for you that you may be able to actually answer.

00:20:21.000 And I think there was an official statement from Missouri, I don't know if it came from you or what office, but you're familiar with the Help America Vote verification story?

00:20:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:29.000 So this is, I've chosen February 17th, 2024 specifically, as it is very large and terrifying numbers.

00:20:36.000 Just some quick context for people to understand.

00:20:38.000 Help America Vote verification is a system so that if someone is trying to register to vote, but they do not have an ID, The DMV, the MVA, can submit the name, their birthday, and the last four of their social to the Social Security Administration to check to see if they are in the Social Security database.

00:20:56.000 That way the person can be registered to vote.

00:20:58.000 There have been a lot of concerns as many states, particularly important states for the election, like Arizona, are seeing tens of thousands of registration attempts Every week in some instance bi-weekly in some instances and

00:21:11.000 the example that we have here from February 17th of this year

00:21:14.000 The state of Missouri had seventy eight thousand four hundred twenty one

00:21:17.000 verification verification requests with twenty three thousand two hundred and fifty three coming back as

00:21:23.000 deceased I Believe the official statement was that this is voter roll

00:21:26.000 cleanup. I don't know if you can shed some light on what's going on

00:21:29.000 Yeah, you know that's a process the Secretary of State's office manages to help the county clerks

00:21:34.000 clean up the voter rolls to make sure that the the deceased or

00:21:37.000 Folks are purged from those rolls And so that's an important part of the process.

00:21:43.000 But when you see numbers like that, especially in swing states like Missouri, bright red state, but Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Texas, 220,000?

00:21:54.000 Yeah, I mean, look at that.

00:21:55.000 I mean, you think about the 10 million people who have crossed our border illegally and are here illegally, and it is illegal for them to participate in a national election.

00:22:03.000 Certainly in Missouri, it's a felony offense.

00:22:06.000 The forms you have to fill out, if you're fraudulently holding yourself out as a legal resident and you're not, that's a felony forgery.

00:22:13.000 And so, you know, these other states need to look at those same laws and make sure that you're not only purging the deceased, but preventing hijacking of the election process by people who have no legal right to vote.

00:22:24.000 But is this confirmed, or, I don't know, if you don't know 100%, but this is Missouri doing voter roll cleanup?

00:22:31.000 I would need to confirm with our Secretary of State's office on the specific numbers, but I know that that is an ongoing process that the Secretary of State manages.

00:22:37.000 It's super disturbing, because it's like a third of the 70, it's the second most state of all of them.

00:22:43.000 It's Texas, then Missouri, I think is number two, maybe?

00:22:45.000 Yeah, Texas, but this is, again, February 17th, it's one specific week.

00:22:49.000 A third of them were deceased.

00:22:51.000 It's not just, like, all the other states, you'd get, like, 72.

00:22:53.000 New Jersey, 72 of them out of 2,800.

00:22:56.000 So that's, like, 0.1%.

00:23:00.000 33% of them in Missouri, like, what is going on that they're using Missouri?

00:23:04.000 It looks like it's being used to funnel some sort of operation to get people on board.

00:23:10.000 Registering dead people.

00:23:12.000 And so here's the problem.

00:23:14.000 Texas denied everything.

00:23:15.000 Because when this story first broke, I think it was back in March, Texas only reports every other week 219,323 registration verification requests.

00:23:22.000 4,559 came back matched but deceased.

00:23:22.000 36,000 came back with no match.

00:23:23.000 Okay, so hold on.

00:23:24.000 registration verification requests, 4,559 came back matched but deceased, 36,000 came

00:23:31.000 back with no match.

00:23:33.000 Okay, so hold on.

00:23:34.000 We got ourselves here a big old problem.

00:23:37.000 Let's operate under the assumption this is still voter roll cleanup.

00:23:40.000 If Missouri is doing voter roll cleanup to the tune of, in one week, 78,421 people, how were there 5,938 of those people that did not have a match in the social security database?

00:23:53.000 How are 23,000... So if we want to say this is voter roll cleanup, 23,000 deceased makes a lot of sense.

00:24:00.000 It violates the rules of the Help America Vote Act, which states this is specifically for registering people to vote, not for... It offers no provision for using it for voter roll cleanup, but it still might be the case.

00:24:12.000 Then how do you have 6,000 of the people not actually matching?

00:24:16.000 That would mean that Missouri caught in one week 6,000 people on their voter rolls who aren't in the Social Security Administration database.

00:24:24.000 And I will stress, you don't get erased from that database.

00:24:26.000 They do not reuse numbers.

00:24:28.000 Going back down to Texas, 36,000 registrations did not have a match in the Social Security database.

00:24:36.000 Sure, you can argue that some people's names, birthdays, and last four didn't match properly, there were typos, but this many?

00:24:45.000 Yeah, 15%, 13% of the people.

00:24:47.000 That's way, way too much.

00:24:50.000 And it's with all the illegal immigration, it's like correlated with all this illegal immigration.

00:24:54.000 If we jump to the latest numbers, which is July 13th, I believe Missouri has 27,371 with

00:25:02.000 3,347 that did not have a match.

00:25:05.000 317 were dead.

00:25:07.000 Look at Nevada, that 36,000 of the 37,000 were not matched.

00:25:12.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:25:13.000 Now that's crazy.

00:25:14.000 This is the latest.

00:25:15.000 The last reported numbers from HAVV.

00:25:17.000 37,181 in Nevada.

00:25:21.000 These are alleged registration attempts with that ID, and 36,600 did not match the SSA database.

00:25:30.000 In a swing state.

00:25:31.000 In a swing state.

00:25:32.000 Border state.

00:25:33.000 So here's my concern, and this could impact Missouri.

00:25:38.000 It's bright red, so it is weird to be like, well, what could possibly go—Texas, however, is not.

00:25:46.000 And Texas could swing.

00:25:47.000 But the fear now is that in 2021, Joe Biden signed an executive order that allowed the federal government to register people in states on behalf of that state without the state knowing.

00:25:58.000 West Virginia came out and said, absolutely not.

00:26:00.000 We reject all of these registrations.

00:26:03.000 But what if what we're seeing is unknown to these states, like Missouri, because these registrations that are being sent to the SSA are coming from federal authorities and the state has nothing to do with it?

00:26:14.000 These people then show up...

00:26:16.000 Get printed that they appear in these databases because the federal government sends in the paperwork and then you end up with non-citizens or one theory is that what's happening is someone is illicitly downloading college and university databases and then trying to register college students who are not registered without them knowing so that a universal mail-in vote will appear at their home and then they could get an activist to go make them fill it out.

00:26:44.000 It's scary stuff.

00:26:45.000 I mean, look, we know that in 2020, several of the blue states changed the rules of the game in the 11th hour in order to harvest more ballots.

00:26:51.000 And that swung the election.

00:26:53.000 I mean, you look at that juxtaposed with the deep state, you know, suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:26:59.000 I mean, those things, you put those two things together and you can see why people, the integrity, like self-evident integrity of the process has been lost.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, I think that's one of the big issues.

00:27:10.000 Voters this year are primed to be concerned about what's going on.

00:27:13.000 And while that's good, it also encourages low trust because you never seem to get the answers that you're looking for.

00:27:19.000 Try how you might, right?

00:27:20.000 We don't know why the numbers are this way.

00:27:22.000 There's not even a clear path to get answers.

00:27:24.000 I guess I can only say you're up for re-election, I'd imagine, right?

00:27:27.000 I think it would be prudent to figure out, you know?

00:27:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:32.000 And in fact, you're going to see more coming out of my office in the coming weeks about some election integrity issues that we're working on as it relates to illegal aliens.

00:27:40.000 Missouri's one of the last states in the nation that still makes it a felony offense.

00:27:43.000 to knowingly transport criminal aliens into or through the state of Missouri.

00:27:43.000 Wow.

00:27:46.000 So we want to stand by to help prosecute that.

00:27:49.000 In Missouri, it's also illegal to obtain a voter ID and hold yourself out to be a lawful

00:27:54.000 resident who's eligible to vote if you're not.

00:27:56.000 So again, that's a felony forgery.

00:27:58.000 I imagine Missouri is one of the states that requires an ID to vote.

00:28:02.000 That's right.

00:28:03.000 It's funny how that works, where it's like when there's actual integrity in the voting

00:28:05.000 process, everyone accepts it as normal and it's not even a question.

00:28:10.000 But then these blue states, where you don't need an ID to vote, it's racist to ask.

00:28:16.000 Nobody has a problem in Missouri.

00:28:18.000 I mean, we would be hearing stories left and right from the Democrats and the media being like, oh, Missouri is suppressing the vote.

00:28:23.000 And you said that Missouri is one of the last states to enforce this felony for transporting illegal immigrants into the state. 0.61

00:28:29.000 So that means that other states at one point did this and then repealed it?

00:28:32.000 So other states have had similar statutes on the books but have lost court battles.

00:28:37.000 But I think one of the things the court's going to look at when weighing whether or not a state can enforce a measure like that is does the state have a compelling interest in enforcement?

00:28:46.000 Like what's the policy problem?

00:28:48.000 And when those statutes were enacted 10, 20 years ago, we didn't have an invasion.

00:28:52.000 We didn't have 10 million people coming across our border illegally.

00:28:55.000 We didn't have election interruptions and interferences from criminal aliens.

00:28:59.000 And so the compelling interest is different now than when these other states lost their court battles.

00:29:03.000 Missouri has not lost that court battle.

00:29:05.000 We still have the statutes on the books and plan to enforce them.

00:29:08.000 How do you guys handle electronic voting in general?

00:29:11.000 Because I'm concerned that votes are getting flipped behind the scenes by machines and we don't have access to the source code to verify.

00:29:18.000 Have you sued like Dominion or companies that try and operate without offering their source code to make them open source their software?

00:29:25.000 So we've got paper ballots in Missouri.

00:29:29.000 Universal paper ballots for the state.

00:29:30.000 Look, I mean, I've seen what a secure election looks like.

00:29:33.000 I secured a part of the Nineveh province, Iraq, in 2005 for their national constitutional referendum.

00:29:38.000 And you know what?

00:29:39.000 We pulled up in armored vehicles with boxes of ballots that were locked.

00:29:42.000 We opened the boxes on election day.

00:29:44.000 People lined up.

00:29:45.000 They put their, you know, remember the blue thumbs?

00:29:47.000 They put their thumbprint on the ballot.

00:29:49.000 We drove them to a secure place and everyone, and then there was people counting them by hand while we watched.

00:29:49.000 We collected them.

00:29:53.000 I mean, it's that simple.

00:29:55.000 And again, when you have a simple process, So you don't have machines at all?

00:29:59.000 like that, the integrity of the process is self-evident.

00:30:03.000 So you don't have machines at all?

00:30:04.000 The machines collect the paper ballots, but then there's human checks on that.

00:30:09.000 But again, this is all under the Secretary of State's office, and that's really who runs

00:30:13.000 elections in the state of Missouri.

00:30:14.000 Right.

00:30:16.000 Do you guys work closely?

00:30:17.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:30:17.000 Look, I work closely with all of our statewide office holders.

00:30:21.000 Everyone's rolling in the same direction.

00:30:23.000 For the first time in, gosh, a really long time, it's top-to-bottom Republicans in state office in Missouri.

00:30:30.000 That has not happened until recently.

00:30:31.000 Wow.

00:30:33.000 Right on.

00:30:34.000 I'm still concerned about all of this data because it's a story that, I mean, we have covered probably like 17 times and we've never gotten clear answers as to what's going on.

00:30:46.000 They put it on hold for a while.

00:30:48.000 Yeah, so the reporting stopped.

00:30:52.000 I think it was in May, or like the beginning of May just froze.

00:30:55.000 After we started reporting on it, a couple months went by and then they stopped the reporting completely for like... Coincidence?

00:31:00.000 Yeah, right.

00:31:00.000 But this is... Are there such things?

00:31:01.000 So, you know, we're looking at great polling for Donald Trump, especially after someone tried to take his life and he stood up with blood coming on his face, screaming, yelling, fight, fight, fight.

00:31:10.000 That really inspired a lot of people.

00:31:12.000 Now you've got, with Kamala Harris coming in, people are saying, oh, she's even worse than Biden. 1.00

00:31:17.000 But the more savvy people are coming out and saying, if you think you've won, you've lost.

00:31:22.000 Because regardless of what's going on with Biden, Kamala, the DNC, we still have a shadow campaign to contend with, the likes of which we do not know.

00:31:30.000 You're familiar with the Time Magazine shadow campaign story?

00:31:33.000 I'm not familiar with that.

00:31:34.000 Let me pull this up and just give you a quick reference.

00:31:37.000 We pull this up periodically.

00:31:40.000 Time Magazine wrote a story This is, uh, what's the date on this?

00:31:45.000 February 5th, 2021, by Molly Ball. 0.68

00:31:48.000 This is the secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election, to which Molly Ball literally writes for Time Magazine, there was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protest and coordinated the resistance from CEOs.

00:32:05.000 Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans.

00:32:09.000 The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S.

00:32:13.000 Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO published on Election Day.

00:32:19.000 Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain, inspired by the summer's massive, sometimes destructive racial justice protests, in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump's assault on democracy.

00:32:33.000 The article, written not even a month after the inauguration of Joe Biden, talks about how CEOs, Zuckerbucks, changing in voting laws, people worked behind—a shadow campaign If you want to call that rigging an election, by all means, go ahead and do so.

00:32:55.000 I'd like to use their words and say they ran a conspiracy, that's what Molly Ball called it, shadow campaign to secure the election to save us from Trump.

00:33:05.000 And that's where we're at now.

00:33:07.000 So now that it's three months out from this next election, the great fear is that they didn't stop.

00:33:14.000 There's something else working behind the scenes.

00:33:16.000 So, I mean, that's why, just real quick, I appreciate having you here, especially because of lawsuits you filed, because you seem to be one of the very few people actually doing something.

00:33:25.000 Well, you know, our lawsuit, Missouri v. Biden, the most important First Amendment case in this nation's history, we're back down at the trial court level using merits discovery to root out the censorship enterprise from the Biden regime.

00:33:36.000 You know, what we're talking about is collusion between activists, corporate America, organized labor there.

00:33:43.000 I think there's another element there, another layer, and that's the deep state.

00:33:46.000 Again, we uncovered as part of Missouri v. Biden, The Hunter Biden laptop scandal that the FBI was in possession of the laptop one year before the election and planted the seed in big tech that there would be a Russian disinformation campaign related to the Hunter Biden, right?

00:34:03.000 And then there were they met with increased frequency between DOJ, FBI and big tech oligarchs.

00:34:09.000 In the weeks and months leading up to that story breaking, and then it was suppressed instantly.

00:34:13.000 That's not coincidental.

00:34:14.000 That is government suppression of critical information that Americans needed to make good decisions at the ballot box.

00:34:20.000 And so that's just one more layer when you've got the deep state.

00:34:22.000 And is anyone surprised?

00:34:23.000 Remember the Peter Strzok, Lisa Page text messages in 2016?

00:34:27.000 Like before Trump was even in the Oval Office, the deep state was already plotting against him.

00:34:33.000 And so, yeah, I mean, people stop trusting our systems when they see and learn about stuff.

00:34:39.000 What were those texts, Lisa Strzok and... Yeah, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

00:34:42.000 They were, you know, FBI agent and Department of Justice official that were conspiring and colluding to undermine the first years of President Trump's administration by injecting this Russian collusion hoax.

00:34:56.000 And they were successful at that.

00:34:58.000 I mean, they dropped the poison pill in the well that we drank from for several years.

00:35:01.000 Yeah, I feel the Iranian, they said an Iranian attempt on Trump's life.

00:35:04.000 That's another poison pill, I think.

00:35:06.000 I can feel it.

00:35:07.000 I got a probably a serious question for you.

00:35:11.000 You're filing these lawsuits.

00:35:12.000 You're uncovering this collusion.

00:35:14.000 Deep state elements, intelligence agents.

00:35:16.000 You know, Chuck Schumer said they got six ways from Sunday from getting back at you.

00:35:20.000 I just wondered if you had a food taster.

00:35:24.000 Yeah, it's a good idea.

00:35:26.000 I mean, and I'm saying it in a somewhat half-joking way.

00:35:29.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:35:30.000 I mean, look, the deep state has ways of getting back at people.

00:35:34.000 They did it to President Trump.

00:35:36.000 They're doing it to everyday Americans in ways we don't see.

00:35:40.000 You know, again, let's talk about in the context of censorship.

00:35:43.000 Again, that's government censorship of information that interferes with an election.

00:35:48.000 That's enormously problematic for obvious reasons.

00:35:51.000 But they're censoring conservative voices on big tech social media platforms.

00:35:56.000 They're changing our culture in ways that we don't see, and it's much more pernicious and nefarious than at any point in human history.

00:36:04.000 Like, if Joseph Stalin goes and shuts down a printing press, the whole world knows it's happened, they can see it, and he's only silenced the printed word.

00:36:13.000 But what's happening now, if you're shadow banned, de-platformed, de-emphasized, if the story never breaks because it's suppressed, you know, we're not only deprived.

00:36:20.000 First of all, we don't know the censorship is going on.

00:36:22.000 And it's not only the speaker's rights who've been violated, but the listeners as well, who may not know that they were going to receive a message that now they can't hear.

00:36:30.000 But it's also the big tech because the way in which we communicate is so much more multi-dimensional than just a simple printing press.

00:36:37.000 It's visual imagery, it's body language, it's all these other forms of communication that are being suppressed.

00:36:43.000 And again, that's enormously harmful to who we are as a people.

00:36:46.000 How much you want to bet the IRS is specifically targeting people based on politics, and how do you track for that?

00:36:52.000 It's very difficult.

00:36:53.000 We know that happened during the Obama years with the Tea Party, that there's this big scandal involving the IRS targeting conservatives.

00:37:00.000 Why would we assume that's stopped?

00:37:02.000 You know, they announced 87,000 new agents.

00:37:05.000 Apparently, I guess, audits are way up.

00:37:06.000 That's been something I've heard.

00:37:08.000 I've heard too.

00:37:09.000 Yeah, if someone wants to fact check that.

00:37:11.000 You know, when they announced they were doing this, Biden says, only if you make $400,000 or more, we're gonna raise your taxes.

00:37:17.000 Yeah, 87,000 agents aren't to raise your taxes.

00:37:20.000 They would raise your taxes to raise your taxes.

00:37:22.000 87,000 agents are so they can comb through your financials.

00:37:25.000 And then one day, working class, small business, mom-and-pop shop that makes, I don't know, cheeseburgers, gets a letter from the IRS that says, you owe us $384.

00:37:34.000 And they're like, what's this for?

00:37:37.000 We paid our taxes.

00:37:38.000 Our accountant did all the work for us.

00:37:39.000 We don't have this money.

00:37:41.000 What are you gonna do, hire a lawyer?

00:37:42.000 No.

00:37:43.000 You're gonna have to write the check.

00:37:44.000 And that's what they're doing to the working class people. 0.99

00:37:47.000 I'd be willing to bet it's politically biased as well, because you suppress economically your political opponents, makes it harder for them to take the time off to go vote.

00:37:56.000 Simply put.

00:37:57.000 And to make your point about censorship, one thing we learned with Dr. Robert Epstein, Google and Facebook are having a massive impact on the election.

00:38:07.000 He explained that, it's actually really simple, they ran a test.

00:38:12.000 On election day, in one of their tests, Facebook sent out a reminder to vote to 100% of Democrats, I think it was Democrats, left-leaning, I think it was in the US, and only like 60 some odd percent of people on the right.

00:38:26.000 So what happens?

00:38:27.000 It's just that easy.

00:38:29.000 That's the manipulative game that they play across the board, and we're trying to fight against that.

00:38:33.000 Now, that being said, with the way things are going, I'm not confident they're succeeding.

00:38:39.000 Yeah, I wonder if you could tell us what- because you've taken a lot of really bold action.

00:38:43.000 I mean, you've lost against Media Matters, Planned Parenthood, the Biden administration, New York State, but you're also fairly young in your career.

00:38:50.000 I mean, what makes you- what made- what was the calculation going into this?

00:38:54.000 Like, I think there are some people, and I'm glad you're not one of them, who would say like, I don't want to anger too many higher powers.

00:39:01.000 Right, no, that's not a concern of mine.

00:39:03.000 I don't want to be a politician.

00:39:04.000 I want to be the Attorney General and do the job for the right reasons.

00:39:07.000 I have no interest in politics.

00:39:08.000 You've got to be a politician to be the Attorney General.

00:39:10.000 I get that.

00:39:11.000 But, you know, first of all, there's nothing that's going to happen to me in politics that is going to be any worse than my worst day overseas in Iraq, where I spent two years overseas in the war on terror.

00:39:23.000 I'm not scared of it.

00:39:25.000 It's not a fear of mine.

00:39:27.000 For reference, you were in the army.

00:39:29.000 Served in the army after the war, in the war on terror, was an armored cavalry scout, platoon leader, and then executive officer and troop commander eventually.

00:39:38.000 But yeah, I mean, having lead soldiers in combat like that, and having the privilege to get to do that, you know, the politics of it doesn't scare me.

00:39:45.000 But I also, I'm not like trying to climb a ladder to a higher office.

00:39:49.000 So I have a little more audacity to do the right things and to be on

00:39:54.000 attack. And I think too, like one of the things, one of the first things you learn in the army,

00:39:58.000 light infantry tactics. When you're caught in a near ambush, you assault into the ambush. You don't

00:40:02.000 turn and run away because you'll just get shot in the back. You're going to die anyway. Kill some bad 0.99

00:40:06.000 guys on your way out. And that's kind of how I approach my job. That's cool. I really think 0.99

00:40:11.000 that that's like a boldness that a lot of people don't have.

00:40:14.000 I think there is a fear that, like, if you challenge the Biden administration, right, you'll upset the governor who's relying on the federal government for tax money or whatever.

00:40:21.000 There's some kind of interwoven love.

00:40:22.000 But I like that you're saying, like, I am here for this job and I'm going to do it to the best of my ability, because I think that that's what restores Americans' trust in their elected officials, that they are actively doing the things that are hard and difficult and not thinking, oh, well, but I want to move up to a higher office.

00:40:37.000 Why are you, are you like the only AG actually doing stuff?

00:40:41.000 You know, I partner with like-minded state attorneys general a lot.

00:40:45.000 Last year we partnered on 161, 164 cases together.

00:40:49.000 So there's a lot of partnership and overlap.

00:40:52.000 You know, Missouri is uniquely positioned for a variety of reasons.

00:40:54.000 Number one, because we are a red state, but we're recently a red state.

00:41:00.000 And so like if you think about conservative states traditionally have not empowered their state attorneys general because Conservatives view it as a zero-sum game.

00:41:08.000 More government, less freedom.

00:41:10.000 And so conservative states have limited the authority of their AGs.

00:41:13.000 Meanwhile, blue states, like Letitia James, her General Assembly gives her any kind of law she wants to conduct lawfare and every other pernicious attack on our way of life. 1.00

00:41:21.000 Missouri is uniquely positioned because we're so recently a blue state that has now transitioned.

00:41:26.000 We were a blue state.

00:41:27.000 We're now a red state.

00:41:28.000 And so it's like the enemy has left weapons on the battlefield that we're picking up and learning how to use.

00:41:33.000 There's like this retreating enemy that's left these weapons on the battlefield.

00:41:36.000 And so the Missouri Attorney General's Office has some really unique statutory authority that isn't replicated in other states.

00:41:41.000 But then again, I also think when you've got someone in office who just wants to be the AG and do the right things for the right reasons, look, America's under attack.

00:41:49.000 I mean, we're absolutely under attack.

00:41:51.000 You can't call this anything else.

00:41:53.000 Our basic values, our way of life, our systems of democratic processes, I mean, all those things are under attack.

00:41:58.000 We have another caravan of 3,000 migrants.

00:42:00.000 We've had these caravans coming to the United States.

00:42:03.000 By the thousands and tens of thousands for years now.

00:42:06.000 And it's just... They don't care.

00:42:08.000 Our border czar, who is now running for... is a presumptive nominee, never went... She never went to the border one time?

00:42:14.000 Did she end up going eventually?

00:42:16.000 I don't think so.

00:42:17.000 I mean, they might have shuffled her down. 1.00

00:42:18.000 Let me double check right now.

00:42:19.000 But the thing is, she was like, the borders are, and then immediately everyone stopped trying to talk about the border.

00:42:25.000 I mean, Joe Biden didn't go to the border until, what, the second half of his current term.

00:42:29.000 It was always something where, and I think you're kind of referencing this, where the values are not in alignment.

00:42:35.000 They'll say, oh, yeah, we're taking care of the border by putting up new cameras and maybe we'll have new agents or something.

00:42:40.000 But what they mean is we don't actually care that people are illegally crossing into the United States.

00:42:45.000 We're actually kind of okay with it.

00:42:46.000 In fact, maybe we'll create this app and maybe another app to make it easier.

00:42:49.000 They're legitimizing.

00:42:50.000 They're perverting the law to try to put an imprimatur of legitimization on illegal crossings.

00:42:57.000 So it's not just that they refused to build the border wall that they were commanded by Congress to do and we sued them and won on that lawsuit.

00:43:02.000 It's not just that they are catching release and repealing remain in Mexico.

00:43:07.000 We should not be catching and releasing.

00:43:09.000 Caravans should remain in Mexico if they're going to seek asylum, but it's perversion of the parole process.

00:43:13.000 Parole under immigration law is for individualized determinations, for limited entry, for limited purpose, limited amount of time.

00:43:19.000 Well, by Biden saying, hey, we're going to allow 10,000 Guatemalans, he's creating a visa program that was never authorized by Congress.

00:43:26.000 Again, that's how he's perverting the law.

00:43:28.000 So it's not just that he's not enforcing, he's hung an open sign and inviting.

00:43:34.000 Oh, this is what's wild is that all of these violate the rights of each individual state who has not had... I mean, this is the point of the Senate.

00:43:42.000 So that the states are represented the federal government before they do these things.

00:43:42.000 Yeah.

00:43:46.000 Biden ignoring that is basically just trampling over the states.

00:43:49.000 That's right.

00:43:50.000 Yeah, and to the detriment of the people, right?

00:43:53.000 I mean, I remember seeing this report from Massachusetts saying they had so many illegal immigrants in the state that their shelters were completely full.

00:44:00.000 These are shelters that are typically for, you know, homeless people or women and children fleeing domestic violence situations.

00:44:05.000 Like, it's the resources that people...

00:44:07.000 In need that, you know, in a desperate situation rely on that are now being diverted to solve this crisis that we don't actually have to have.

00:44:15.000 The Biden administration just said on day one, we hated Trump so much.

00:44:19.000 We're going to reverse whatever he's doing.

00:44:20.000 And we're not going to think about the consequences of this because we're trying to score this political this political point that we aren't Trump.

00:44:25.000 And look, look at this posturing we can pull off.

00:44:28.000 Well, I think it goes back to something you said earlier, which is that the left has rejected practical good, any pursuit of practical good, in favor of radical, progressive, woke ideology.

00:44:38.000 You see that in the border.

00:44:40.000 You see that in transgender issues.

00:44:42.000 I mean, you see that across the board with all these issues.

00:44:45.000 Criminal justice, you know, again, the Soros-backed prosecutors don't enforce the law.

00:44:49.000 Victims suffer.

00:44:49.000 You know what?

00:44:50.000 It undermines the credibility of our criminal justice system.

00:44:53.000 And all of that is, again, they are putting woke progressive ideology ahead of practical good.

00:44:58.000 Both parties used to pursue practical good.

00:45:00.000 We just had different arguments about how to get there.

00:45:02.000 And now the left has completely rejected practical good.

00:45:04.000 Let's jump to the story from Just the News.

00:45:07.000 Supreme Court orders New York to respond to Missouri lawsuit over Trump lawfare this week.

00:45:13.000 This seems pretty big.

00:45:14.000 Is this a victory for you guys?

00:45:15.000 Yeah, this is huge.

00:45:16.000 I mean, the Supreme Court has taken notice of the lawsuit we filed against the state of New York.

00:45:20.000 And again, you've got a rogue prosecutor and collusive judiciary in New York who have prosecuted Donald Trump under specious legal grounds.

00:45:29.000 The prosecution is replete with constitutional procedural error.

00:45:32.000 Ethics violations should have never happened.

00:45:34.000 I've never seen such a gross miscarriage of justice.

00:45:36.000 But that's what you get in New York.

00:45:38.000 And at the end of the day, that hurts Missourians in every other state because we have a right to participate in a national presidential election on equal footing with every other sovereign state.

00:45:47.000 And Missourians are being denied access to, and being denied the ability to hear from, a presidential candidate in the heat of a campaign in the most consequential national election in this country's history.

00:45:58.000 And so that harms Missourians.

00:45:59.000 So you filed, I should say, on behalf of the state of Missouri, you sued New York, its original jurisdiction, so the Supreme Court is the court that hears it.

00:46:07.000 We announced the news when it broke, and many people said, but wait, Supreme Court's out of session, how does this work?

00:46:13.000 Yeah, different dockets.

00:46:14.000 So you've got kind of the Supreme Court's appellate review docket, and that's what mostly the Supreme Court does, is review cases that have been adjudicated at a lower court.

00:46:22.000 But the Founding Fathers contemplated there would be disputes amongst the states, and they codified a method by which we could redress those grievances in Article 3, Section 2 of the United States Constitution, and it's the original action docket.

00:46:32.000 And so that's separate and apart from kind of their appellate review, and so Other states have sued other states before.

00:46:38.000 Typically, it's about water rights or boundaries.

00:46:41.000 This is different because, again, we're suing the state of New York for hijacking this election and injecting poison into our democratic process through lawfare.

00:46:49.000 But it's an original action of the Supreme Court.

00:46:52.000 We file our pleadings.

00:46:53.000 The court has ordered New York to respond.

00:46:55.000 They have until tomorrow to respond.

00:46:56.000 We'll see what they do.

00:46:57.000 There are three claims you're making?

00:46:59.000 Number one, First Amendment violation.

00:46:59.000 That's correct, yeah.

00:47:01.000 You know, the gag order that the court instituted in New York is unconstitutional.

00:47:06.000 It violates President Trump's right to speak, but it violates our right to hear from him.

00:47:10.000 And the important point here is, like, the gag orders in criminal prosecutions, there's a strong presumption against gag orders because of our First Amendment rights.

00:47:18.000 But that's especially true, and those considerations are heightened when you're talking about a presidential candidate!

00:47:23.000 A frontrunner!

00:47:24.000 But beyond that, The gag order is supposed to protect a defendant's right to a fair trial.

00:47:29.000 Well, number one, the trial's over.

00:47:30.000 Number two, here the state, the prosecutor, got the gag order.

00:47:34.000 If Donald Trump wants to put himself at risk by speaking out publicly about the trial, he should be allowed to do that, and we have a right to hear from him.

00:47:40.000 So that's the first claim.

00:47:41.000 The second claim is that, again, in Missouri we had a caucus, and there were electors who were selected based on that caucus to attend the convention and cast votes for President Donald Trump to be the Republican nominee.

00:47:54.000 Those electors are being denied access to a presidential candidate, because anytime he's spinning in a Manhattan courtroom, or potentially in a New York State penitentiary, or on probation in New York, he can't be campaigning.

00:48:04.000 And that harms our ability to have access to him.

00:48:06.000 The third claim is under the Purcell Doctrine.

00:48:08.000 So the Purcell Doctrine stands for the proposition that courts should stay out of decisions that would obfuscate or interfere with an election.

00:48:15.000 And again, those considerations are heightened the closer in time you get to an election.

00:48:20.000 And so the same should be true in New York.

00:48:22.000 People are already asking me, constituents reach out all the time, can Donald Trump be on the ballot?

00:48:25.000 Am I going to get to vote for him?

00:48:26.000 Is he going to get to come to Missouri and talk to us?

00:48:29.000 Can he still serve as president if he's convicted of a felony in New York?

00:48:32.000 So this New York court is violating the Purcell Doctrine by injecting that kind of level of obfuscation into the electoral process.

00:48:38.000 This is absolutely crazy because it brings up a lot of questions.

00:48:41.000 Now, we know any reasonable person who reviews the criminal charges against Donald Trump in the Hush Money case would scratch their head and say, what?

00:48:51.000 None of this makes sense.

00:48:52.000 And I'll break it down because I know there's people who haven't watched every show, but I'll try to make it quick.

00:48:56.000 The charges against Donald Trump are for falsification of business records, but that's a misdemeanor and it's beyond its statute of limitations, meaning they can't bring the charges, what are we talking, seven years later.

00:49:06.000 They claim it's upgraded to a felony if you falsify business records in furtherance of a secondary crime.

00:49:14.000 Now, they claimed that Donald Trump, the judge said to the jury, If you believe Donald Trump committed a secondary crime, it doesn't matter which one, then you can find him guilty on this one if you believe he also falsified business records.

00:49:29.000 Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but how does a court First of all, upgrade a charge with the presumption of a secondary crime that has never been adjudicated through any kind of due process means or anything.

00:49:44.000 The court is just decreeing the crime exists.

00:49:46.000 That's right.

00:49:47.000 And two problems there from a constitutional standpoint.

00:49:50.000 Number one, lack of notice.

00:49:51.000 34 count indictment that again refers to false business entry for this based on another crime.

00:49:58.000 You can read the indictment.

00:49:59.000 It says another crime.

00:49:59.000 34 times.

00:50:00.000 34 counts.

00:50:01.000 That's a notice violation under the due process clause.

00:50:04.000 President Trump has a right to have notice of the alleged offense.

00:50:08.000 So they deprived him of due process in that regard.

00:50:10.000 Jury unanimity is under the Sixth Amendment.

00:50:12.000 So when the jury goes back to deliberate and the judge says, hey, pick any old predicate offense you want.

00:50:12.000 It's the next problem.

00:50:16.000 You don't have to agree.

00:50:18.000 Under Ramos v. Louisiana, a case that was handed down by the United States Supreme Court in 2020, stands for the proposition that the Sixth Amendment right to fair trial includes the right to jury unanimity as to every element for which the defendant is charged.

00:50:30.000 Wow.

00:50:30.000 So they violated his constitutional rights to due process, violated his First Amendment right to free speech, violated his Sixth Amendment right to jury unanimity.

00:50:37.000 You look at the fact that the prosecutors were politically motivated because they campaigned on a promise to prosecute President Trump.

00:50:43.000 They should have been disqualified.

00:50:44.000 The judge has deep ties.

00:50:46.000 The Democratic Party also should have been disqualified.

00:50:48.000 In Missouri, it's an appearance of impropriety standard.

00:50:51.000 Well, here, there's actual impropriety.

00:50:53.000 It's not an appearance.

00:50:53.000 Not an appearance at all.

00:50:54.000 It exists.

00:50:55.000 So, like, they should have been... This is reversible error.

00:50:58.000 It's an incurable impropriety.

00:51:00.000 When I say that the case is an illicit witch hunt prosecution, that's what we're talking about. 0.78

00:51:03.000 It's all of these problems that, typically, in a criminal trial, maybe you have one problem that results in what could be reversible error.

00:51:11.000 But here, it's, like, replete with reversible error.

00:51:13.000 Isn't this an emergency?

00:51:14.000 It is.

00:51:15.000 Isn't this something the Supreme Court should take up within hours and shut it down?

00:51:20.000 And that's the point.

00:51:21.000 Everyone's like, look, if President Trump was wrongfully convicted, his appeal will figure that out.

00:51:25.000 That's insufficient.

00:51:26.000 That vehicle for raising these claims is insufficient to adjudicate the grievance that the state of Missouri and the voting public in Missouri has against the state of New York.

00:51:34.000 The individual appeal process will vindicate President Trump individually, but that's going to take 18 to 24 months.

00:51:40.000 And we can't wait because the election is forthcoming.

00:51:42.000 So the Supreme Court said New York has to respond by tomorrow, which means what exactly?

00:51:48.000 Well, we'll see what New York files.

00:51:51.000 I mean, they have a reply to our lawsuit, and they'll either try to convince the court that the lawsuit should not go forward.

00:51:57.000 They could concede that there's a problem.

00:52:00.000 I don't anticipate they would do that.

00:52:01.000 To clarify, does your lawsuit, does it raise claims to those due process violations against Donald Trump?

00:52:08.000 Yeah, those are central to, I mean, that's central to the argument that this is lawfare, not a legitimate criminal prosecution.

00:52:14.000 You know, again, the objective in New York was never to obtain a legally valid conviction.

00:52:19.000 It was always to take President Trump off the campaign trail and silence him, and they were effective at doing that, and that harms Missourians and all voters.

00:52:25.000 That's absolutely insane at a most basic, Democratic level.

00:52:31.000 That you have 50 participants in an election where each state will cast a ballot, and you've got several states that are like, well, our clear choice is Trump, but we'll see what happens.

00:52:41.000 So 1 50th of the nation decides we will do whatever we have to to destroy his opportunity to actually run a campaign.

00:52:50.000 That is The most obvious and egregious election interference imaginable.

00:52:56.000 Now, if it was something like Donald Trump shot a guy on Fifth Avenue and everybody saw it happen, well, I don't know what leg you got to stand on.

00:53:03.000 States can bring charges against people if everybody watched and there's a preponderance of evidence.

00:53:06.000 Then you go to trial and he can prove his innocence, be under reasonable doubt, etc, etc.

00:53:10.000 But here we're looking at any reasonable person.

00:53:13.000 And we saw this with Fareed Zakaria.

00:53:15.000 He said these charges would not have been brought against someone whose name was not Donald Trump.

00:53:19.000 Even CNN admits it.

00:53:21.000 And this statute has never been used in New York in the way in which they're using it against President Trump.

00:53:27.000 Two other points I want to make real quick.

00:53:29.000 You've also got this problem when you talk about the statute of limitations.

00:53:32.000 Again, that is even more problematic in this instance because the statute that creates the offense for which Donald Trump was charged, I think it's New York Code 175.10, but it allows for an affirmative defense.

00:53:45.000 And when you've got an affirmative defense, that requires the defendant, who typically doesn't have any burden of proof, to by preponderance of the evidence establish that he is legally excused from what would otherwise be criminal behavior.

00:53:56.000 The due process violation is worse in this context because how can he take advantage of his statutorily granted affirmative defense and gather evidence to defend himself if he doesn't know what the predicate offense is?

00:54:09.000 He just has to kind of prepare for anything, like it's a weird pop quiz.

00:54:12.000 Again, the due process violation is worse in this instance because of that.

00:54:16.000 Absolutely insane.

00:54:17.000 I mean, at a most fundamental level, we as children learn about the right to confront your accusers.

00:54:22.000 And Trump never got it, right?

00:54:25.000 For what offense was he charged?

00:54:26.000 We don't know.

00:54:27.000 Sounds like he's going to get it.

00:54:29.000 The Supreme Court was out of session and I was angered by like, well, come on guys, it's not summer camp, like get to work.

00:54:35.000 But you said that they somehow were able to legislate from out of session.

00:54:38.000 How does that work?

00:54:39.000 Yeah, so again, it's the difference between their term in which they review appeals to the Supreme Court.

00:54:46.000 That's a separate docket, and that term has ended.

00:54:48.000 But original actions, they're never out of term when it comes to original actions.

00:54:52.000 Those are always filed directly with the United States Supreme Court.

00:54:54.000 It's novel.

00:54:55.000 I mean, it doesn't happen too often that states have lawsuits against other states, especially claims like this.

00:55:00.000 But again, it's imperative because of where we are in this election cycle.

00:55:04.000 And so the Supreme Court is absolutely reviewing these cases now as evidenced by the fact that they ordered New York to respond.

00:55:10.000 Did they have to go back to wherever they work from, or did they do it remote?

00:55:14.000 Yeah, I believe they could do it remotely.

00:55:17.000 I know that the documents that we file with the court are all printed on paper and distributed to the justices.

00:55:23.000 Look, the justices and their clerks are aware of the lawsuit.

00:55:26.000 They're reviewing the lawsuit.

00:55:27.000 They've issued orders in the lawsuit.

00:55:29.000 This process is moving forward, and again, we anticipate that we need to act quickly, and we anticipate the court will act.

00:55:35.000 So what argument could New York possibly have?

00:55:40.000 I mean, what could they possibly say to the Supreme Court?

00:55:43.000 Yeah, I'm interested to see what arguments they raise.

00:55:46.000 I mean, they could defend the legitimacy of the prosecution, and then we get to, again, respond with all of these constitutional and ethical problems.

00:55:53.000 But even when it was coming out, there were all kinds of people already, all media commenters on the left, saying, like, oh no, Trump's definitely going to appeal this.

00:55:59.000 Like, this was sketchy.

00:56:00.000 This was not right.

00:56:02.000 So there's a possibility that within a week, the Supreme Court just obliterates the whole New York hush money case?

00:56:09.000 They just say outright, we nullify it, or what?

00:56:11.000 Yeah, I think the prayer for relief here, first of all, yes, these cases need to go away.

00:56:15.000 All of the law for against President Trump needs to be, those cases need to be dismissed or judgment entered notwithstanding the verdicts.

00:56:21.000 And we've moved, as the state of Missouri, we filed a brief in the New York case demanding that the judge dismiss the indictment and vacate the judgment.

00:56:30.000 The Supreme Court, have they already ruled on standing?

00:56:33.000 They have not yet.

00:56:34.000 So again, these are arguments... They could come out next week and say Missouri has no right to sue New York?

00:56:39.000 They could.

00:56:40.000 I kind of feel like that's what to do because you've got Thomas and Alito and the rest are sit-on-their-hands types.

00:56:46.000 Yeah, and I think it's time we have an open and honest conversation in this country about standing.

00:56:51.000 It's a jurisprudential concern, and under Article 3, the federal courts are limited to hearing cases and controversies between parties.

00:56:59.000 You've got to show a concrete harm from a direct action of the defendant.

00:57:03.000 I get all that.

00:57:04.000 Those are important for individual cases.

00:57:06.000 However, when you have states bringing claims, is it time to review our standing analysis and for that analysis to evolve in a way that gives more latitude to allow for states to raise claims on behalf of the people?

00:57:20.000 This was the Texas v. Pennsylvania back in 2020.

00:57:23.000 The Supreme Court ruled on standing, I believe, right?

00:57:26.000 After three days.

00:57:27.000 They said Texas has no right to argue about Pennsylvania's elections.

00:57:31.000 That's right.

00:57:32.000 Here's the distinction between that case.

00:57:34.000 First of all, that lasted three days.

00:57:35.000 And maybe it was a few more, but I don't think they got to 10 days.

00:57:39.000 And our case against New York.

00:57:42.000 What that previous case was asking was for the Supreme Court to redo an election.

00:57:48.000 And the courts, again, under the Purcell Doctrine, they don't want to get involved in administering elections or reviewing elections or having anything to do with that.

00:57:56.000 So that was a tall order.

00:57:58.000 This is different.

00:58:00.000 And this case has already gone longer and is receiving review.

00:58:04.000 And honestly, the court may sit on this case and withhold a decision until sentencing.

00:58:10.000 Because what the New York trial court does...

00:58:13.000 Could change the whole landscape.

00:58:14.000 Two arguments here.

00:58:15.000 Number one, if the court were to sentence Donald Trump to prison, well then the Supreme Court might say, okay, now this is way more important to us.

00:58:22.000 Number two, you know, and we've made this argument both at the Supreme Court and at the trial court level, but after the immunity decision was handed down by the Supreme Court, you can go back and look at some of the evidence that was introduced in the criminal trial in New York and realize that's the fruit of the poisonous tree.

00:58:36.000 That evidence should have never been used to obtain a criminal conviction because the president was immune from some of that behavior.

00:58:43.000 As we all knew, kind of going into that.

00:58:44.000 So the New York court clearly raced ahead of SCOTUS to obtain that conviction.

00:58:50.000 But all of those things are playing out and I think that's why the court has paused and has taken a hard look at this.

00:58:54.000 And sentencing is in September now?

00:58:56.000 That's correct, yeah.

00:58:57.000 And so there are things that may, could happen at the trial court level that could alter the trajectory of the case that's pending at the United States Supreme Court.

00:59:06.000 Let's jump to this story, which will serve as a segue into the darker conversation.

00:59:10.000 This is from the New York Times.

00:59:12.000 I'd like to pause real quick.

00:59:13.000 Can I fix this?

00:59:13.000 resigns after Trump assassination attempt. Kimberly A. Cheadle gave a proposed Tuesday

00:59:18.000 after security failures that allowed a gunman to shoot at former President Donald J. Trump

00:59:22.000 at an open air rally. I'd like to pause real, real quick.

00:59:24.000 Can I, can I fix this? They put in, they accidentally put at. Can we just, I'll just say

00:59:30.000 Kimberly A. Cheadle gave a proposed Tuesday after security failures allowed a gunman to shoot former

00:59:35.000 President Donald J. Trump at an open air rally, who might I remind everybody and the New York Times

00:59:40.000 especially had blood coming down his his face from where the bullet struck him in the ear.

00:59:44.000 Right.

00:59:45.000 That was not injured in shooting.

00:59:46.000 He was shot.

00:59:47.000 He was shot.

00:59:48.000 And there's that's just it.

00:59:48.000 Right.

00:59:50.000 I understand the assumption when someone's shot is they have a bullet wound in their body.

00:59:55.000 OK.

00:59:55.000 But I don't think we need to play semantics in the fact that this guy shot Trump in the ear.

01:00:00.000 Trump was shot in the ear.

01:00:01.000 Would you say it like that?

01:00:01.000 OK.

01:00:03.000 Now, I don't believe this resignation is sufficient.

01:00:07.000 I believe that there is either, at bare minimum, criminal negligence, but I think most reasonable people can conclude, based on all of the statements, media reports, law enforcement statements, whistleblowers, etc., that This was allowed to happen.

01:00:25.000 And beyond that, you question, if it was allowed to happen, who's this 20-year-old guy to randomly show up?

01:00:31.000 This idea that it was just a bunch of accidents doesn't make sense.

01:00:34.000 They first said that the roof was sloped so they couldn't get the law enforcement on the roof.

01:00:38.000 The roof was not sloped, that's a lie.

01:00:40.000 Eli Crane was there, standing on the roof, and he's like, what are you talking about?

01:00:40.000 Rep.

01:00:43.000 It's a very low grade.

01:00:44.000 Then you had statements that actually, there were law enforcement up there, but they were too hot.

01:00:51.000 Then you have questions about the windows being unsecure, the water tower being unsecure, you have the rooftop that was totally insecure, Donald Trump being released with an active threat.

01:01:01.000 The Secret Service knew of an active threat and they still released Trump from holding.

01:01:04.000 All of these things could not be an accident.

01:01:07.000 So, I'll just say, as she's resigning, there are many members of Congress who are asking the question about was there, in some official capacity, intentional actions taken against Donald Trump.

01:01:16.000 And I know it's a very difficult subject matter, but looking at all the evidence that's come out in the media, I don't know how you conclude that the story is just some crazy 20-year-old who got lucky.

01:01:26.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:01:28.000 And I think one of the other problems is, you know, she resigns and it doesn't make it OK.

01:01:33.000 There still has to be investigation.

01:01:34.000 Mayorkas has this independent panel that he's saying is bipartisan.

01:01:37.000 Mayorkas himself is being kind of sketchy.

01:01:40.000 People were saying that he was, you know, declining to appear before the House Oversight Committee, even though the DHS is in charge of the Secret Service ultimately.

01:01:50.000 I think one of the big problems is that we know that there are so many unanswered questions and Cheadle's testimony yesterday really proved that they are not willing to be honest with the public and they are really trying to sort of cover up, it feels like they're trying to cover up what happened and I don't know that we can trust the federal government to investigate itself.

01:02:10.000 That roof was 150 yards away, roughly, from Donald Trump, and AR-15 fires off 400 yards.

01:02:16.000 That's insane that it wasn't secured.

01:02:18.000 I don't know if it was intentional, but that's either total insanity, or they intentionally didn't secure a dangerous shooting spot.

01:02:26.000 And then I was listening to Chris Martinson on Twitter, really breaking down the audio from the shooting, and you hear two distinct guns.

01:02:32.000 I mean, it's pop, pop, pop.

01:02:34.000 Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.

01:02:35.000 Like, it's three low-sounding humming shots and then five, like, high-pitched ones.

01:02:40.000 He says it sounds directly like it's coming from two different guns.

01:02:43.000 Still, doesn't imply that they let it happen or that they did it intentionally, but, like...

01:02:50.000 I don't know.

01:02:51.000 I mean, obviously, it looks like she was covering something up in the hearing yesterday, because she was like, I can't, I can't disclose that.

01:02:59.000 I can't disclose that.

01:03:00.000 I can't disclose that.

01:03:01.000 The reason why I wanted to jump from our previous segment, which was talking about the lawfare, the Supreme Court rulings against New York, the actions being taken by New York are unprecedented.

01:03:11.000 Criminal charges against Trump without proper due process, accusing Trump of a crime that Trump has never, they've never told Trump what crime that was.

01:03:21.000 And in 2020, we had Texas v Pennsylvania, states lining up against states.

01:03:27.000 And now you have, we're at the point where somehow, somehow every possible security failure happened, which allowed a man to shoot Donald Trump in the ear, nearly taking his life, but not for a few millimeters.

01:03:40.000 And the concern is, When this happened, you even have Logan and Jake Paul saying, if Trump, if that bullet were a few millimeters away, we would have had a civil war.

01:03:53.000 Now I'm supposed to be the guy ranting on the street corner with a sign saying Civil War, but now you've got, after this, the conversation has become so ridiculously mainstream, even Jake and Logan Paul on their podcast are like, wow, we almost had a civil war, I can't believe what's happening in this country.

01:04:08.000 With what we're seeing, with the attempt on Trump's life, with the things you've uncovered, A.G.

01:04:14.000 Bailey, about deep state collusion and censorship, Are we at risk of some kind of national-level internal conflict?

01:04:24.000 And I want to preface this with, I am not saying civil war.

01:04:27.000 That's one of the components, but it could be balkanization.

01:04:30.000 It could be something along the lines of Individual states declaring themselves sanctuaries from federal authority to a more greater degree.

01:04:41.000 Do you see that as a possibility in any way?

01:04:45.000 I think it's certainly a risk.

01:04:46.000 I mean, look, people are fed up.

01:04:47.000 They're tired of it.

01:04:48.000 They're tired of being told how to think, what to think, what you can and can't say.

01:04:53.000 They're tired of us eroding our national sovereignty through the Biden invasion.

01:04:56.000 They're tired of the fact that they're working all day, they come home at night, and their dollars don't spend as well because of the inflation.

01:05:02.000 And they're tired of stuff like this.

01:05:04.000 And this woman, you know, refusing to answer questions or provide any kind 1.00

01:05:07.000 of transparency or any kind of coherent explanation to what is clearly a massive failure in

01:05:12.000 security protocols. And when I was securing sensitive sites in Iraq as a platoon leader, we never would

01:05:20.000 have allowed, to your point, never would have allowed an elevated platform within 150

01:05:23.000 yards of a secure site.

01:05:25.000 You don't do that.

01:05:26.000 And that happened here.

01:05:27.000 And there's a reason that happened.

01:05:29.000 And she owes us an explanation.

01:05:30.000 And her resignation does not excuse the officials from that.

01:05:34.000 But going back to my point I made early on, the part of the problem is this rise in the administrative state.

01:05:40.000 We no longer rely on Congress to pass laws and the executive branch to enforce those laws, and we no longer respect state sovereignty because we have this mushrooming administrative state, this alphabet soup of agencies that have this authority and aren't accountable to the electorate.

01:05:56.000 Because they're bureaucrats that aren't elected, and so we need to slash and burn the administrative state. 1.00

01:06:01.000 Overturning the Chevron Doctrine, reinvigoration of the Major Questions Doctrine in the previous two Supreme Court terms, those are weapons in our legal arsenal to fight back against the administrative state.

01:06:11.000 Do you want to explain the Chevron ruling?

01:06:13.000 Yeah, so Chevron was a farce that was put forth in the 1980s by the Supreme Court that essentially allowed, required, the federal judiciary to defer to a federal agency's reasonable interpretation of their own authority.

01:06:28.000 That's an abdication of the court's role under Article 3 to determine what the law is.

01:06:33.000 It goes all the way back to Marbury v. Madison.

01:06:35.000 The courts determine what the law is.

01:06:37.000 And so this never worked.

01:06:39.000 And that again, it excused Congress from actually doing their jobs and writing statutes, writing laws.

01:06:45.000 It allowed for this mushrooming exponential growth in the administrative state.

01:06:49.000 It allowed for the ATF to unilaterally declare if you owned a pistol brace, you were a felon.

01:06:55.000 That blew my mind.

01:06:57.000 I'm like, wait, wait, I went to a gun store, I filled out my paperwork, they told me pistol braces were totally fine and legal, and I said, okay.

01:07:02.000 And then a few months later, this story breaks, and they're like, by the way, so I call my lawyer, and he's like, take them off your weapons and separate them, bring them to a separate property, or store them separately, and you're illegally allowed to have them so long as they're not attached.

01:07:15.000 And I said, how did a department, a bureau, just decide something was a crime?

01:07:22.000 Luckily Missouri filed suit and won that lawsuit to put a stop to that because you're right.

01:07:26.000 I mean look we're always The Second Amendment says shall not be infringed That's the words shall not be infringed in Missouri article 1 section 23 of the Missouri Constitution protects not only firearms But ammunition and accessories as well and obligates the state to stand up and fight to protect our God-given rights to not only firearms and ammunition accessories So I was proud to file that lawsuit and get a win Did the overturning of the Chevron Doctrine then eliminate or repeal all these things that had been done using the Chevron Doctrine?

01:07:53.000 No, but it gives us better legal footing to challenge them.

01:07:56.000 And it means that the tie doesn't go to the agency anymore.

01:08:00.000 The agency's going to have to account for whether or not they're adhering to the plain text of the statutes that authorize them to perform certain functions.

01:08:07.000 But I like the messaging around this when the Chevron ruling came out.

01:08:10.000 Every mainstream media outlet, a lot of left-leaning ones were like, well, they're not letting experts make decisions.

01:08:16.000 This is so crazy.

01:08:17.000 I mean, it is.

01:08:18.000 It is this.

01:08:19.000 That's our Constitution.

01:08:20.000 And it feels like we're in parallel worlds where there are some people who are like, well, here's the Constitution and here is what we would like to happen.

01:08:20.000 Right.

01:08:25.000 Everyone else being like, no, you guys are crazy.

01:08:28.000 That point was on full display in March when I sat at council table and we argued the case Missouri v. Biden and Justice Kentucky Brown Jackson Ask the question.

01:08:38.000 Well, isn't it?

01:08:39.000 It seems like the First Amendment really hamstrings the government's ability to respond to an emergency.

01:08:43.000 It's like, yes, that's the point!

01:08:45.000 It is an irreducible axiomatic principle that the rights that we enjoy come from God, not man, that the Constitution exists to protect us from the government, the government exists to protect our rights, and in this era we see government repeatedly weaponized against us.

01:08:58.000 That is antithetical to who we are as an American What was the other, you said the Supreme Court overturned

01:09:02.000 the Chevron doctrine?

01:09:02.000 Yeah, major questions, doctors, the other one.

01:09:04.000 And so that one says that Congress doesn't hide an elephant in a mouse hole.

01:09:08.000 And so you see that in West Virginia v. EPA, you see it in my lawsuit that we won

01:09:11.000 when President Biden first tried to cancel student loan debt.

01:09:15.000 And what the court has said is that, look, if Congress intends to institute a program

01:09:20.000 on this order of like social, economic, political magnitude, Congress has to speak explicitly in the text of the statute.

01:09:27.000 The president has to point to the exact words in the law that allow him to do that, and with a fine, fine print.

01:09:32.000 And...

01:09:34.000 Congress has not so authorized the president.

01:09:37.000 And that's why we won that lawsuit.

01:09:38.000 That's why West Virginia won that lawsuit against the EPA.

01:09:40.000 And so those are two independent founts of legal authority to fight back against the rise of the administrative state.

01:09:45.000 But attorneys general will always be playing a game of whack-a-mole.

01:09:48.000 We need Congress and a president who are willing to, again, slash and burn that alphabet soup. 0.97

01:09:53.000 I mean, why do we have a federal Department of Education?

01:09:55.000 What role does the federal... Our founding fathers never intended that Bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. 0.52

01:10:00.000 would have anything to do with our schools at the state level.

01:10:03.000 And it's just bloat now.

01:10:05.000 It's government job welfare.

01:10:08.000 Exactly.

01:10:09.000 One of the concerns that you often hear is, you know, look, yes, but we've got to do it slowly because if we slash 5,000 jobs, the economic damage, it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, dude.

01:10:17.000 We're not just giving people money for no reason. 0.78

01:10:19.000 That's ridiculous.

01:10:20.000 I kind of appreciate some sort of national regulation on education in that if one school was teaching someone that two plus two equals three, and then another school is like, no, it's two, then you're gonna have a problem and we're not gonna be able to communicate as a society.

01:10:33.000 So I understand, but I don't think we need an entire department.

01:10:36.000 I've learned in recent years, because I agree with you about the bloat.

01:10:39.000 I think it just turns into people getting hired.

01:10:41.000 The founders intended the federal government to be a government of limited authority, and under the Tenth Amendment, which says that any authority not given to the federal government, denied to the states, is enjoyed by the states and the people of the states.

01:10:52.000 The states are governments of unlimited authority, limited only by their own constitutions or the federal constitution.

01:10:59.000 So the only point I'm making is that education is left to the states.

01:11:03.000 And it's up to states to regulate that.

01:11:04.000 The federal government was never authorized or empowered under the enumerated powers given to the federal government to have anything to do with education.

01:11:10.000 That's just one example.

01:11:11.000 I mean, again, pick out of a hat any federal agency and let's determine whether or not there's enumerated authority for that agency in our Constitution.

01:11:19.000 I feel like Americans have been sort of brainwashed to think of it as being the federal government above all else.

01:11:24.000 We follow them first.

01:11:25.000 They forget the importance of their state government.

01:11:26.000 It drives me bonkers when I hear people say, oh, the Supremacy Clause.

01:11:30.000 Like, no, no, no, no.

01:11:31.000 The Supremacy Clause doesn't mean that the federal government is supreme to the states on all things.

01:11:35.000 That's not what that means.

01:11:36.000 The Supremacy Clause is an interpretive tool.

01:11:38.000 When you have a federal statute and a state statute that cannot coexist and be synthesized, and that the federal statute is constitutionally valid, Then the federal statute trumps the state statute.

01:11:49.000 But again, that's only when you have an irreconcilable difference.

01:11:52.000 That rarely occurs.

01:11:53.000 It's an interpretive tool, not an independent found of legal authority.

01:11:57.000 What would happen if the Supreme Court comes out and says, we don't care that New York is doing these things?

01:12:05.000 We go back to the drawing board and we go find another tool to get to work on this problem.

01:12:11.000 But I see the problem here as potentially an unstoppable force and an immovable object.

01:12:17.000 It is clear to any reasonable person that New York is just acting extrajudicially.

01:12:23.000 They're using the force and threat of violence that they control at the state level To lock up, stop, and steal the 2024 election.

01:12:33.000 It doesn't mean they're guaranteed to do it, but they're certainly trying to.

01:12:35.000 We know that you can't criminally charge someone for, quote, another crime, end quote.

01:12:40.000 The Constitution doesn't allow that.

01:12:42.000 If the Supreme Court doesn't answer this, and I feel like they won't, then, well, Missouri can't just say, we accept that the game is broke, that the rules are rigged, and it's impossible to win.

01:12:53.000 I mean, people across this country will lose their minds as this continually devolves.

01:12:58.000 But as we've already seen, Tucker Carlson predicted in September that with the amount of lawfare against Donald Trump, we are moving into assassination territory.

01:13:07.000 Now, a week ago, someone actually shot Donald Trump, narrowly missing him, his skull, but hitting his ear.

01:13:16.000 We were but millimeters away from Trump losing his life.

01:13:20.000 I can't discount everything that Tucker Carlson was suggesting when he was saying something like that is predictable because of what's happening before it.

01:13:28.000 That is to say, The presumption is there are powerful forces that have tried every means possible to stop Donald Trump.

01:13:35.000 They accuse him of being a traitor.

01:13:37.000 It did not work.

01:13:38.000 They waged lawfare in terms of impeachment twice.

01:13:41.000 It did not work.

01:13:43.000 They created new laws in New York to civilly sue Donald Trump for sexual assault, which made no sense. 0.95

01:13:48.000 The story was completely ludicrous.

01:13:50.000 They've changed the rules every single step of the way just to say, we can and we will.

01:13:55.000 In Georgia, they're going after Donald Trump.

01:13:58.000 The federal documents case, they went for Trump.

01:14:00.000 Now, of course, that one was recently defeated.

01:14:01.000 Trump is winning every step of the way.

01:14:04.000 The speculation around the presidential immunity ruling from the Supreme Court was that they would say, of course, the president enjoys immunity as to his constitutional duties.

01:14:13.000 But for anything outside that, he does not.

01:14:15.000 That was fairly obvious.

01:14:16.000 What I didn't see any pundit predict was that they would additionally say, you cannot use any action that was in an official capacity as evidence of wrongdoing.

01:14:26.000 Which basically crushed the Hush Money case in New York, postponing the sentencing, and allowing Donald Trump not to be sentenced to prison on July 11th, right before the RNC, where he was of course going to give his speech, accept the nomination, be the presidential nominee, and name his VP, and then two days after that...

01:14:44.000 He gets shot in the ear in an unprecedented security failure, the likes of which you have never seen, and makes no sense to former Secret Service, like Dan Bongino, former Army snipers.

01:14:56.000 I believe Eli Crane was an Army sniper.

01:14:57.000 There have been many people who have commented on this, who are in Congress, I believe Corey Mills as well, saying none of this makes sense.

01:15:06.000 Dan Bongino pointing out that at Secret Service you'd block line of sight if you couldn't secure the roof.

01:15:10.000 They didn't do that.

01:15:11.000 You'd blur out the windows.

01:15:12.000 They didn't do that.

01:15:14.000 None of it makes sense.

01:15:16.000 And so my fear is, there's a reason Tucker Carlson made the prediction in September that he did, and they attacked him for it, but sure enough ended up happening.

01:15:24.000 Now we are looking at, we know for a fact, those of us that are watching, that New York is just, there's no law.

01:15:33.000 There's none.

01:15:34.000 Merrick Garland and the Her Tapes, there's no law.

01:15:38.000 Joe Biden broke the law the same as Trump.

01:15:40.000 They say, we're not going to prosecute.

01:15:41.000 It's the province's evil law.

01:15:42.000 It's different than no.

01:15:43.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no evil.

01:15:45.000 No, there's no law.

01:15:46.000 Okay.

01:15:47.000 There's no law.

01:15:48.000 Merrick Garland defies a congressional subpoena and they say, so what?

01:15:51.000 He can do whatever he wants.

01:15:52.000 Meanwhile, Steve Bannon's in prison.

01:15:54.000 Peter Navarro just got out.

01:15:55.000 At what point does the system just one day people wake up and they say there isn't one.

01:16:01.000 You know, what concerns me about the Trump attempted assassination of Trump is like, I think this machine, this deep state is trying to remove threats to its process, whether it be Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

01:16:13.000 And when Joe Biden refused to step down, Then a couple days later he had a stroke.

01:16:17.000 Is this confirmed he had a mini-stroke?

01:16:19.000 I don't think it's been confirmed.

01:16:20.000 It's not confirmed.

01:16:21.000 It's not confirmed that he had a mini-stroke, but I do think it's fair to say that it is confirmed Joe Biden suffered a medical emergency.

01:16:27.000 So he refuses to step down, they want him to step down, he refuses, and then has a medical emergency.

01:16:32.000 I find assassination attempts can happen with more than bullets, they can happen with poisonings.

01:16:36.000 Like, I don't put it past this system, and I don't even know who it is.

01:16:39.000 The biggest problem is, like, it's the shadows.

01:16:42.000 How do you defend against the shadows?

01:16:44.000 Like, it's been around for tens of thousands of years, just really running the show and allowing kings to be in position?

01:16:50.000 It's not just, the shadow does not refer to a single person.

01:16:52.000 The element of surprise is a major component for any kind of conflict.

01:16:56.000 So, it could be one guy today, a second guy tomorrow, it could be a woman today, it could be a different woman tomorrow, you just don't know. 0.99

01:17:03.000 Now, personally, I hear what you're saying on Joe Biden and how they may have tried to stop him.

01:17:11.000 I just don't think they need to.

01:17:12.000 I think we've all seen Biden's failing for the past few years. 0.98

01:17:17.000 It's a silly concept.

01:17:18.000 I don't, I'm not purporting that it happened.

01:17:20.000 It's just, it struck me last night while I was listening and I thought, wow, I hadn't put that one in tilt place.

01:17:25.000 So I might as well talk about it on the show today.

01:17:26.000 What, what?

01:17:28.000 I don't, 2021, you have January 6th, and you have people who are still being held.

01:17:34.000 You've got one guy who's been held in solitary, on and off, without any charges.

01:17:40.000 We're going on three and a half years.

01:17:41.000 This guy's never been charged with a crime, but they won't let him go.

01:17:44.000 What we are seeing now, especially with the contempt charges against Merrick Garland, Democrats break the law and get away with it.

01:17:51.000 Republicans go to jail for the slightest infraction.

01:17:54.000 The lawsuit you have against New York, Supreme Court absolutely needs to say, New York, you're done, we nullify all of it.

01:18:01.000 It's just gone.

01:18:03.000 And if they don't, and I suspect they won't do anything, we are inching towards a reality where people on the right are going to say, Washington is illegitimate because they don't actually uphold or enforce the law.

01:18:16.000 They are no different than roving bands of bad guys with guns.

01:18:20.000 Because that's all we're seeing.

01:18:22.000 Federal law enforcement raiding Donald Trump but ignoring Joe Biden?

01:18:25.000 They're not acting as if they're agents under the law, bringing accountability and equality under the law.

01:18:33.000 They're quite literally just dudes with guns enforcing mandate from Democratic Party officials.

01:18:40.000 I have a lot of hope with the Supreme Court right now, only that because they are demanding New York respond.

01:18:45.000 They didn't have to issue that demand, as far as I understand.

01:18:48.000 Yeah, I mean, they didn't have to accept our filing.

01:18:50.000 They could have just dismissed the filing on the pleadings and said, no, Missouri, we're not going to have this lawsuit.

01:18:55.000 So I mean, yeah, look, this is moving in a positive direction in the sense that we're going to have a chance to Have some of these issues litigated.

01:19:04.000 And again, I think that the Supreme Court, you know, one way they could kind of sidestep the issue is to pause on a ruling until such time as the state court in New York takes action at sentencing.

01:19:19.000 Because if the court sentences President Trump, the court should do the right thing, just dismiss the indictment, vacate the judgment, turn him loose.

01:19:28.000 But if the court doesn't do that, the trial court could say, well, President Trump, you're on bench probation supervised by the court with no conditions.

01:19:35.000 Well, then he can talk again and he can be campaigning again and he can have his appeal play out.

01:19:39.000 And then that kind of lessens the impact.

01:19:41.000 He's still gagged.

01:19:43.000 And that's the point.

01:19:43.000 Yeah, he is.

01:19:44.000 Like the gag order is supposed to protect the defendant's right to a fair trial.

01:19:46.000 The state asked for the gag order and the trial's over.

01:19:49.000 It's a funny thing about the delaying sentencing, which is like on the one hand, you know, Trump not in prison or doing whatever, you know, getting to be out when a lot of people were really scared about what would happen to him.

01:19:49.000 Right.

01:19:59.000 On the other hand, it just allows this gag order to remain in place, which, like you've pointed out, is actually benefiting the prosecution.

01:20:05.000 It allows the gag order to stay in place and it also heightens the harm under the Purcell claim.

01:20:11.000 I'm glad you're here because you are an officer of the law and you obviously appreciate law.

01:20:16.000 I think a lot about law and chaos.

01:20:18.000 I play a lot of video games.

01:20:19.000 Baldur's Gate, Dungeons & Dragons and Alignment.

01:20:21.000 You've got law and chaos.

01:20:22.000 You can be lawful or you can be chaotic.

01:20:24.000 And then alongside that you could be good or you could be evil.

01:20:26.000 So you could be lawful and evil.

01:20:28.000 You could be chaotic, and you could be good.

01:20:30.000 That's like Robin Hood.

01:20:32.000 So when law becomes evil, I wonder, how do you protect or defend against the king gone rogue?

01:20:38.000 Well, you don't run under the castle and scream because the guards are going to axe you down.

01:20:42.000 So I'm thinking, I'm a bard, man.

01:20:45.000 I've got to use my magic for what I'm good at, which is making music and sound and inspiring the populace through grassroots.

01:20:52.000 I think there is no strategic maneuver in a situation like that.

01:20:56.000 When you have tyranny, there's no strategic maneuver.

01:21:00.000 There's only eventual chaos in every direction.

01:21:03.000 Right?

01:21:04.000 So we'll talk about the Founding Fathers and the American Revolution.

01:21:07.000 I love this point.

01:21:08.000 I make it all the time.

01:21:09.000 One year and one month after the war had already begun is when they signed the Declaration of Independence.

01:21:15.000 So you literally have the Founding Fathers being like, why are you shooting us?

01:21:19.000 Stop.

01:21:20.000 We don't want this.

01:21:21.000 For a year.

01:21:23.000 It's not that. 0.99

01:21:23.000 There's a lot of people who have this idea in their minds that the founding fathers got together and said, you know, this king's kind of a dick. 0.99

01:21:30.000 Let's declare independence. 0.98

01:21:32.000 And then they did.

01:21:33.000 And then they sent the letter.

01:21:34.000 It sails to England.

01:21:36.000 And then he reads it and goes, well, then I'm going to declare war on them and we'll have a war.

01:21:40.000 And then three months later, troops show up.

01:21:42.000 Not how it happened.

01:21:43.000 The regulars were already there.

01:21:45.000 They were suppressing people's rights.

01:21:46.000 They were trying to seize weapons and regular people just started fighting.

01:21:50.000 It was chaos.

01:21:51.000 And then in response to the fighting, which was started by the Crown, for the most part, I mean, they were an oppressive force, you end up with the Continental Army forming, and a war emerging just naturally out of chaos, before finally, the Founding Fathers are like, eh, we're going to declare independence, I guess.

01:22:10.000 They've been fighting for a year at that point.

01:22:11.000 And they would have, anecdotally, or at least as a sidestep, they would have had no chance without the French. 0.99

01:22:18.000 The French won the war.

01:22:19.000 I believe the Spanish as well.

01:22:20.000 The French and the Spanish.

01:22:21.000 It was basically a proxy war between France and Spain against England.

01:22:24.000 And the French and the Spanish used the United States as like Vietnam to wipe out the English, destroy their navy, and then they were like, yeah, and we dig liberties. 0.93

01:22:32.000 So like Beaumarchais, you know, heroes of the French.

01:22:35.000 Well, yeah, I mean, so if the king had reconciled himself to the law, done, then there could have been a reconciliation between the colonists and the crown.

01:22:47.000 But it was, to your point, it was that continual, like, further movement down the path of chaos and lawlessness that resulted in this exacerbation of the problem.

01:22:56.000 The Crown's saying, it's Parliament, don't look at me.

01:22:59.000 The King's like, don't look at me.

01:23:00.000 And then Parliament is like, we control the colonies.

01:23:03.000 And the colonies were like, okay, now you don't.

01:23:06.000 Imagine what would have happened in global, in world history, if the Crown and Parliament in Great Britain said, colonists, we hear what you're saying.

01:23:18.000 We'll work it out for you.

01:23:19.000 Why don't we have some representatives from each colony come to Parliament to speak your peace and then we'll rule. 1.00

01:23:27.000 Then there's representation.

01:23:29.000 Things calm down.

01:23:30.000 The United States remains part of the British Empire.

01:23:33.000 Imagine what the world would have been like If they weren't so obstinate.

01:23:38.000 And what I see now is the deep state, they are doing the exact same things.

01:23:43.000 They are saying, don't know, don't care.

01:23:45.000 It's our power.

01:23:46.000 Nothing else matters.

01:23:46.000 F you.

01:23:48.000 Well, you ask Ian, like, what do you do in those scenarios?

01:23:50.000 How do you?

01:23:51.000 There's nothing to do.

01:23:53.000 My fear is that eventually you will end up with people on the right waking up one day and being like, there is no government.

01:24:01.000 That's deeply concerning.

01:24:03.000 I'm constantly thinking about this right now.

01:24:05.000 How do we preserve against this?

01:24:09.000 That's the biggest problem.

01:24:10.000 I will tell you this.

01:24:12.000 It is very, very plain to see.

01:24:16.000 Merrick Garland broke the law.

01:24:18.000 He is not being charged.

01:24:21.000 Steve Bannon was ordered to answer a congressional subpoena, and he said, I can't, under executive privilege, and then eventually they said, then we're going to charge you for it.

01:24:30.000 I think that's BS, but fine, if that's what they're doing.

01:24:33.000 Merrick Garland also rejected a congressional subpoena.

01:24:37.000 Okay, fine, well, he should be charged.

01:24:38.000 They said no.

01:24:39.000 You don't solve this by bending the knee to tyrants who are smashing and burning everything to the ground.

01:24:44.000 We're trying to ask them to stop smashing everything and burning it to the ground.

01:24:48.000 The answer would be Merrick Garland should be in jail for four months, in prison for four months, the same as Steve Bannon.

01:24:55.000 And then my answer is, the system works.

01:24:57.000 There is equality under the law.

01:24:59.000 The problem is, you can ask people like Steve Bannon, you've been found in contempt, go to prison.

01:25:05.000 And he says, Okay.

01:25:07.000 Because Steve Bannon believes in this system.

01:25:09.000 The negotiation... I suppose the terms to be given aren't coming from us.

01:25:17.000 Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro went to prison.

01:25:19.000 They said, okay, we abide by the law.

01:25:22.000 It is the Democrats, Joe Biden, with her investigation, not being charged for the classified documents, and Merrick Garland not going to prison despite the fact that he literally broke the law.

01:25:32.000 So the negotiation is, if we want a system to be maintained, you have to participate.

01:25:38.000 But they're not.

01:25:39.000 So we run dangerously close to a point where you're going to get a bunch of people.

01:25:43.000 It's going to be Bundy Ranch times 10,000 in the United States, and that's what I fear.

01:25:46.000 My concern is that I don't think Biden was running the show and making these decisions.

01:25:50.000 I feel like it was corporatists, potentially international cartels of banking establishments and business dealings and things that are...

01:25:57.000 And I don't think that's actually inherent to the American spirit.

01:25:59.000 I think Americans don't like to be on edge like that.

01:26:01.000 a win-win. It's like if we decide we have to fight, we lose and they win. If we don't fight,

01:26:06.000 then we lose due to the fascist oppression and they win through technocracy. So that's where

01:26:12.000 I'm at right now. Like the walls, I feel them. I'm like, and I don't think that's actually inherent

01:26:17.000 to the American spirit. I think Americans don't like to be on edge like that. They would much

01:26:21.000 rather rebuilding and moving forward in a positive way.

01:26:23.000 Yeah, man.

01:26:26.000 That's why I was talking about graphene earlier.

01:26:27.000 Did I mention you can do these?

01:26:28.000 You talk about graphene every day that I've known you.

01:26:30.000 What's the difference?

01:26:31.000 On the back window of your car, you've got those black lines, those defrosters.

01:26:35.000 But they don't put them on the front windows because they block vision.

01:26:37.000 So you make graphene glass ones that melt the ice, that are transparent.

01:26:41.000 Stuff like that. 1.00

01:26:42.000 Create shit and go to Mars, man. 1.00

01:26:44.000 Just do something good. 1.00

01:26:45.000 Overly simplistic.

01:26:46.000 There are people who don't care for any of that.

01:26:48.000 They are barbaric and want to watch the world burn.

01:26:52.000 That Donald Trump didn't want any wars?

01:26:52.000 What's the issue?

01:26:55.000 Apparently.

01:26:55.000 There's a meme.

01:26:57.000 All of these presidents who started 15 plus wars and killed thousands of people and American troops die in the process.

01:27:05.000 Nothing.

01:27:06.000 Then you get Donald Trump. 0.99

01:27:08.000 Someone tries to kill him.

01:27:09.000 And they didn't at first.

01:27:11.000 No one cared for the first four years.

01:27:12.000 That's not true.

01:27:13.000 They accused him of being a traitor.

01:27:15.000 And before Trump was even the nominee, someone at a rally tried grabbing the gun from a police officer Deep State's been against him since day one.

01:27:25.000 in the beginning they were like trying to slant him in the media and push him

01:27:28.000 down that way and then it slowly escalated to where we're at right now.

01:27:31.000 Deep State's been against him since day one he's taken everything they've thrown

01:27:35.000 at him to include a would-be assassins bullet and is stronger than ever.

01:27:39.000 Oh our internet's down. Yeah.

01:27:43.000 Is the show still recording?

01:27:44.000 The show's still recording, but internet's down.

01:27:47.000 So, yeah.

01:27:48.000 When they were talking about the Deep State?

01:27:48.000 When did it go down?

01:27:50.000 Did they mention the King?

01:27:50.000 Oh, no.

01:27:51.000 We did have a time that, like, the power went out when someone was talking.

01:27:53.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:27:54.000 The CIA.

01:27:55.000 YouTube's down.

01:27:56.000 The lights went out.

01:27:57.000 I think YouTube is down.

01:27:58.000 Interesting.

01:27:58.000 Because I still have X on my phone.

01:28:00.000 I was going to say, I have the internet on my computer.

01:28:02.000 Are we still live?

01:28:05.000 They're like, if we can't take out the show, take out the entire internet!

01:28:07.000 It just came back right now.

01:28:09.000 Hello everyone, we're back.

01:28:10.000 How very, very strange.

01:28:12.000 Are people saying that we disappeared?

01:28:14.000 I just want to say, Luke Rutkowski texted me and said, call Hannah Hannah on the show.

01:28:18.000 No, Luke.

01:28:19.000 It's Hannah Clare, Brimlow.

01:28:21.000 For the record, get it straight.

01:28:23.000 Yeah, so our stream rate is zero.

01:28:27.000 YouTube has just come back, but nothing is being sent out.

01:28:30.000 So you didn't hear that, world.

01:28:32.000 All right.

01:28:32.000 No, it's in the audio podcast that'll be on Spotify and iTunes.

01:28:36.000 Cool.

01:28:37.000 I'm looking forward to going live again.

01:28:38.000 OBS reconnection successful.

01:28:42.000 And we still do not have an uprate.

01:28:44.000 Let's find out.

01:28:46.000 Yeah.

01:28:46.000 All right, audience.

01:28:47.000 Oh, there we go.

01:28:47.000 And we're back.

01:28:48.000 We're back, audience.

01:28:49.000 When did it cut out?

01:28:50.000 Put it in the comments.

01:28:52.000 I believe that was YouTube that cut out.

01:28:54.000 Apparently YouTube dropped.

01:28:55.000 Did someone say something that offended the Deep State for like the past minute that blacked out?

01:29:00.000 For the last three years?

01:29:00.000 I don't think we've said anything specifically unusual that hasn't said before, unless they were in a particularly sensitive day.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, we didn't shut it down, so... That was YouTube that went down.

01:29:10.000 I do wonder about the infrastructure of large tech companies.

01:29:13.000 I mean, this is something that I've wondered about for a long time.

01:29:15.000 You're pointing at me.

01:29:16.000 Oh man, this is my issue.

01:29:18.000 This is really important to me.

01:29:19.000 You're right.

01:29:19.000 I mean, it's not just... Look, the big tech marketplace behaves differently than any other marketplace because of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which has created this oligarchy of big tech moguls.

01:29:31.000 And so that marketplace is untethered from the normal market impulses that would prevent things like censorship and that would provide things like transparency for consumers to know the quality of and components of the products, goods or services they're purchasing, right?

01:29:46.000 Those don't exist in the big tech marketplace because Section 230 of the CDA has been misinterpreted.

01:29:50.000 And that has allowed not only government censorship, which violates the First Amendment, but corporate censorship.

01:29:55.000 That again, your shadow ban, de-platform, de-emphasize, and it's not just your rights as a speaker that are being violated, but your listeners' rights as well.

01:30:03.000 And again, it's more pernicious than at any point in human history because the medium of communication is so much more dynamic and it's done in a clandestine manner.

01:30:11.000 And so, as state attorneys general, we need to find tools in our toolbox to help fix that problem.

01:30:18.000 I think that consumer protection law and I think that antitrust law are two options that we're looking at in Missouri.

01:30:24.000 That's interesting.

01:30:25.000 Do you feel like people realize the importance of the Attorney General when they're going to vote?

01:30:29.000 Because basically, from what you're saying, you have the ability to impact people's lives in so many ways.

01:30:35.000 In this conversation, we've bounced from the election to stuff that's going on in Missouri, but also you've done stuff with Planned Parenthood, with consumer protection.

01:30:43.000 It seems like maybe this is an office that people don't pay enough attention to.

01:30:46.000 I think that people in the state of Missouri have started paying a lot more attention based on the work that my predecessors, Josh Hawley and Eric Schmidt have, you know, they leave behind a legacy of excellence that I'm carrying on and proud to be doing that.

01:30:58.000 And we build off of that and take it in new and different directions.

01:31:03.000 And so I think people are starting to pay attention and see how important it is.

01:31:06.000 And you said that Josh Hawley was your law professor and he also has endorsed you for

01:31:10.000 re-election.

01:31:11.000 That's correct.

01:31:12.000 Yeah.

01:31:13.000 That's pretty cool.

01:31:14.000 Were you guys following that, I'm sure you were, that tech outage a couple days ago,

01:31:16.000 a few days ago?

01:31:17.000 It was like... 0.98

01:31:18.000 Delta's still screwed. 0.98

01:31:19.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:31:20.000 Delta's down.

01:31:21.000 CrowdStrike issued an update.

01:31:22.000 And I could be wrong about this, but I heard people saying that it was one of the codes

01:31:26.000 linked to a null identifier or something.

01:31:29.000 I forgot what it's called.

01:31:31.000 Is that what it was, Serge?

01:31:32.000 Basically it was equivalent to a dead link.

01:31:36.000 So imagine you had a code and it was like, after X amount of time, click AOL.com, but

01:31:41.000 there isn't one.

01:31:42.000 So this update tells all the computers to pull memory from a dead space that has no memory, so everything just crashes.

01:31:48.000 I'm wondering, do websites like YouTube, do companies like you have the legal authority to just cut access to a user at any moment?

01:31:54.000 Like, what happened to us?

01:31:55.000 I don't think that's what happened.

01:31:57.000 I'm not saying that.

01:31:57.000 Isn't that what Facebook and all kinds of social media platforms do already?

01:32:00.000 They say, you have violated our terms of service.

01:32:03.000 We won't say how.

01:32:04.000 You must leave now.

01:32:04.000 So then you can still log in.

01:32:06.000 You can still go to Facebook.com.

01:32:07.000 But I'm saying, can they issue a denial?

01:32:09.000 So you can't even go to the website, just gives you a four?

01:32:12.000 What is it?

01:32:12.000 And again, some of this is being done at the government's demand.

01:32:15.000 Some of this is government coerced censorship, as we've proven in Missouri v. Biden.

01:32:19.000 And now that we're back at the trial court level, we can use merits discovery to root out that vast censorship enterprise.

01:32:24.000 We need to build a wall of separation between tech and state to protect our First Amendment rights of free speech from government censorship.

01:32:31.000 But separate issue is the corporate censorship.

01:32:34.000 And I still think that there are tools at our disposal now, unless and until Congress takes action to amend or repeal Section 230 of the CDA.

01:32:42.000 It could be amended, I don't think it needs to be repealed, or it could simply be ruled on by the Supreme Court.

01:32:50.000 The issue is not that Tech platforms, online web service providers, have immunity.

01:32:57.000 The issue is that they also have, Section 230 gives them not just the immunity, but the right to police as they see objectionable.

01:33:05.000 It's a sword and a shield.

01:33:06.000 Exactly.

01:33:07.000 And it should be just a shield.

01:33:08.000 Yep.

01:33:09.000 You are allowed, the rule should be, you are allowed to only remove through criminal writ of some sort.

01:33:16.000 So if someone posts something that's illegal, you can flag, and a judge can say, that's illegal.

01:33:23.000 Yeah.

01:33:24.000 I think that's, because right now what's happening is, you know, you've got X.com and they're like, oh, um, you know, we can remove whatever we want and we can't be sued because that's not our speech.

01:33:32.000 So they selectively remove all the opinions of people who think like, there's only two genders.

01:33:37.000 That was actually one of the big things they did.

01:33:39.000 They banned misgendering.

01:33:40.000 And so, but it's fundamentally reshaping our culture.

01:33:43.000 Yep.

01:33:44.000 It, by, by, by, uh, you know, filtering the information flow in what has become the public square.

01:33:51.000 And the remedy for disfavored speech in this country has traditionally been counter speech, not censorship, certainly not government censorship.

01:33:58.000 Here's a funny component of Section 230 as it works under the law.

01:34:02.000 If I make a news website, or if the New York Times created a space on the front page, a small space, and they said, any user can write content and submit it, and it may appear in that box.

01:34:16.000 And so let's just say Tim Cass did it, right?

01:34:20.000 Any user can write whatever they want.

01:34:21.000 You can't sue me for hosting it.

01:34:23.000 And so then one day on the front page, it says Kamala Harris kicked the dog.

01:34:26.000 Big breaking news break.

01:34:27.000 And then you look in there, you see the author, you see this news story.

01:34:30.000 It looks completely legitimate.

01:34:32.000 You know, we're NewsGuard certified as a legitimate news source.

01:34:35.000 And the people are like, wow, look at this report.

01:34:36.000 And they say, we're going to sue you for posting it.

01:34:37.000 No, no, no.

01:34:38.000 That was user generated content.

01:34:39.000 We didn't write it.

01:34:41.000 So there's another problem in this, in that the law would also allow, as per Wikipedia, this is the big problem.

01:34:50.000 Here's your avenue for a lawsuit, probably, if you want to approach this.

01:34:54.000 Let's do this.

01:34:55.000 I'm going to pull up Wikipedia, James O'Keefe.

01:35:00.000 And I actually do hope you use this and launch your suit, because we talked about this a few years ago.

01:35:05.000 All right.

01:35:06.000 James O'Keefe, Wikipedia.

01:35:09.000 James Edward O'Keefe III is an American political activist who founded Project Veritas, a far-right activist group that uses deceptively edited videos and information gathering techniques to attack mainstream media organizations and progressive groups.

01:35:20.000 Both O'Keefe and Project Veritas have produced secretly recorded undercover audio and video, encounters in academic, governmental, etc., etc., etc.

01:35:26.000 So, it is my understanding James O'Keefe takes issue with this Wikipedia page in that it falsely characterizes and demeans, defames, and libels The argument that I was told is that you can't sue Wikipedia.

01:35:42.000 Section 230, right?

01:35:44.000 Well, hold your horses.

01:35:45.000 Where on this page does it say it was written by any users?

01:35:50.000 Does it?

01:35:52.000 No, what's the byline?

01:35:56.000 The byline is from Wikipedia.

01:35:57.000 Yeah.

01:35:58.000 So I've talked to lawyers and I've asked them about this.

01:36:00.000 I said, okay, hold on.

01:36:02.000 On Twitter, If Ian Crossland posts, it says, Ian Crossland, and then under it says, I just plain don't like graphene.

01:36:10.000 And then, you can't sue Twitter, or Axe now, because it's under Ian's name, he said this.

01:36:17.000 My argument is, Wikipedia may allow users to write whatever they want.

01:36:23.000 That's on the back end, when you view the source.

01:36:26.000 When you look at the source material, of how it's written up, and it's got users' names next to it in the history, that's what's protected.

01:36:34.000 So if you click View History on this, these individual posts, this is the Twitter of Wikipedia.

01:36:39.000 The username and the thing they wrote.

01:36:42.000 However, they then, as Wikipedia and entity themselves, write that the article in aggregate is from them, specifically.

01:36:51.000 I believe there's a strong case to sue Wikipedia making that argument.

01:36:56.000 Yeah, they look like a publisher.

01:36:58.000 I mean, 230 was intended to say that these online social media platforms are not publishers under kind of common law, defamation, libel.

01:37:06.000 They look more like a publisher when they they're claiming ownership over the content there.

01:37:10.000 I agree with that.

01:37:11.000 And to your point, I mean, from a consumer protection angle, It's too hard to understand the label.

01:37:19.000 It's too hard to understand how consumers, the information consumers need to qualify whether or not to believe this is not readily available to us.

01:37:28.000 Let me add a few more components.

01:37:30.000 Wikipedia has super users.

01:37:32.000 So if you sign up for Wikipedia to edit the article, you can't.

01:37:35.000 People make this argument that on Wikipedia, you know, anybody can sign up and write whatever they want.

01:37:39.000 You literally can't.

01:37:40.000 Wikipedia has editorial guidelines.

01:37:42.000 Only certain sources are allowed to be used.

01:37:45.000 And there are super-users who have the authority to lock and boot you from a page.

01:37:49.000 Notably, James O'Keefe is locked out.

01:37:52.000 We need to see Wikipedia sued because they are asserting this.

01:37:58.000 Now, in this instance, James O'Keefe himself would have to sue Wikipedia for defamation and say, this isn't a user-generated page.

01:38:05.000 When users generate content akin to what Twitter is, where you can see the user's name and their arguments and the things they've wrote, that's Twitter.

01:38:14.000 I agree.

01:38:15.000 The revision history of the page is protected, each and every one of these posts.

01:38:19.000 But Wikipedia then allows, under editorial guidelines with editorial super-users, to aggregate all of that into a post.

01:38:26.000 So I make this argument.

01:38:29.000 And I don't know if you're an expert on this as a lawyer, but... So if I worked at the New York Times, and I said, I'm going to create a draft article in the New York Times backend, and I will let anyone write anything they want, However, as a super user, I can selectively edit and remove things that don't follow my rules.

01:38:49.000 Then, once they write a story about Kamala Harris kicking a dog, I say, okay, publish.

01:38:53.000 And it says, Kamala Harris kicked dogs by the New York Times.

01:38:56.000 That is not protected under Section 230, right?

01:39:00.000 It shouldn't be.

01:39:01.000 Again, the courts have misinterpreted certain provisions within Section 230 of the CDA, and I think that's caused a lot of the problem.

01:39:07.000 But we're seeing states take action, too, right?

01:39:09.000 I mean, Texas and Florida both passed laws that ended up at the Supreme Court in the Net Choice cases.

01:39:14.000 The Supreme Court kind of punted on that, so it remains to be seen how those laws are going to impact the marketplace.

01:39:18.000 But I think everyone recognizes there's a problem in action.

01:39:23.000 Well, here's some defamation.

01:39:24.000 It says, Andrew Bailey, politician.

01:39:27.000 You can't stand for that.

01:39:29.000 You know, I think at the top, where it says, from Wikipedia, it should actually say, from 7,400 users, and there should be a hyperlink that should take you to them, and it should say, super users, it has to... This article has been edited this many times.

01:39:40.000 Yeah, and then you'll be able to sue the individual people for defamation, not the website.

01:39:44.000 This is the problem right now, is when I asked, okay, On Twitter, on X, if Ian defames me, I can sue Ian, right?

01:39:51.000 Yes, of course.

01:39:52.000 Okay, well, in the history of this, you've got the most ridiculous scenario.

01:39:59.000 How do I sue a guy who wrote one word?

01:40:01.000 So, we actually talked about this on the show, and someone built this system where everyone is allowed to submit only one word.

01:40:08.000 You can't sue someone for saying dog.

01:40:11.000 Can you sue a guy who wrote Kamala?

01:40:12.000 No.

01:40:13.000 If I go on Twitter right now and type the word Kamala, you can't sue me.

01:40:15.000 I didn't say anything.

01:40:16.000 What if someone wrote Kamala, the next person wrote Harris, the next person wrote Kix, the next person wrote Dog, and then it publishes an article?

01:40:22.000 Who do you sue?

01:40:23.000 That's the problem with Wikipedia.

01:40:25.000 No individual, or I should say there are people who are writing big paragraphs, but some people only add a word.

01:40:31.000 And so someone might write, and here's a question for you, Kamala Harris pets dog.

01:40:38.000 Someone else comes in and changes the word pet to kick.

01:40:40.000 Can you sue someone for writing the word kick?

01:40:42.000 No, but at that point you'd have to sue the super user that published the amalgamation, I think.

01:40:47.000 It's the individual who wrote kick and clicked publish.

01:40:49.000 It's the argument then, because here's the argument then.

01:40:54.000 Every single user who clicks publish is assigning the entirety of the article to themselves as a user.

01:41:03.000 No, no, let's talk about this.

01:41:06.000 Kamala Harris pets a dog.

01:41:08.000 You go in and you change pets to kicks.

01:41:11.000 Publish.

01:41:12.000 And you go, I didn't say she kicked a dog, I just wrote the word kick.

01:41:15.000 Someone else wrote Kamala Harris and dog, that wasn't me, so I didn't make the statement.

01:41:19.000 What court is going to agree with that?

01:41:21.000 Right, you'd have to go with the timestamp you'd see if you actually did put the word kicks in to fill that sentence out.

01:41:26.000 In which case, you as adding anything to that article and clicking publish you're not publishing one word you're publishing the whole article as a statement from yourself as a user.

01:41:40.000 So here's what we need to do.

01:41:42.000 People on the right complain about Wikipedia all the time.

01:41:45.000 Launch a series of lawsuits against every single user citing the entirety of the page.

01:41:51.000 And they'll say, I didn't write anything about a cow kicking a dog.

01:41:54.000 I was writing about her time at university.

01:41:56.000 No, you published the full article, did you not?

01:41:59.000 When you clicked edit, did it show you the entirety of the article with everything in it?

01:42:03.000 And you clicked publish.

01:42:04.000 Therefore, you published the entirety of the statement.

01:42:07.000 I think that's what we need to do.

01:42:09.000 Now my Wikipedia actually isn't bad.

01:42:11.000 Not like James's.

01:42:12.000 So there's not really much in there for me to complain about.

01:42:14.000 It actually says Tim Pool is considered left and right and there's nothing in there that's like overtly defamatory.

01:42:21.000 The thing is though if it's a big article with a bunch of false narratives and then you go in and change one of the words...

01:42:28.000 To actually something righteous, then they could sue you for all the false narratives in the article.

01:42:33.000 And we have to change the system.

01:42:35.000 It makes no sense.

01:42:36.000 So what's happening is the left, predominantly leftist liberal activists, go on Wikipedia and put bunk sources and lie, cheat, and steal all through this stuff, like James O'Keefe.

01:42:49.000 It's just lies.

01:42:51.000 And what's the remedy to correct the defamation?

01:42:53.000 When they go, I only wrote one word, don't look at it.

01:42:56.000 We're talking about a political or a legal remedy, which should exist and does exist.

01:43:00.000 And also the technical remedy, which I've always sort of advocated is opening the software code.

01:43:05.000 It is open source.

01:43:06.000 Is all the software code free on this thing?

01:43:08.000 Yes, Wikipedia is completely open source.

01:43:10.000 Because then someone can spin up a clone of the site, like Wikipedia, and then people will start using Wikipedia because it's less... The Wikipedia system is used for everything.

01:43:21.000 Have you ever gone to, like, Star Trek Wikipedia?

01:43:23.000 No.

01:43:24.000 They have 50 billion different versions and they're used for specific things.

01:43:24.000 Wikias.

01:43:28.000 The problem is Wikipedia is the premier principle online encyclopedia that is used by many people as a directory for sources.

01:43:35.000 Yeah, Google will put it in search engines and things.

01:43:38.000 It'll have it linked on the side.

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01:44:00.000 Tim is Controlled Opposition says, if Kamala turns on Israel, she's got my vote. 0.93

01:44:06.000 That is what I refer to as Israel Derangement Syndrome.

01:44:09.000 The idea that Kamala, who is not qualified, who is, I mean, also just deeply uncharismatic, openly corrupt, accused of sleeping her way into politics, the idea that you would support a person because she hates Israel, suggests that you have an emotional disturbance pertaining,

01:44:26.000 internally, pertaining to Israel by which you would be willing to damage your own country 0.75

01:44:32.000 if it means that you get to insult another country.

01:44:34.000 She turns on Israel, she insults another country.

01:44:37.000 That's anti-America First. That's America Last.

01:44:41.000 That you're voting for someone who hates another country but doesn't support your own?

01:44:44.000 America Last. 0.82

01:44:45.000 I think Kamala Harris struggles with her national security platform. 0.91

01:44:50.000 Again, right now, she's just going to have to parrot whatever the Biden administration did.

01:44:54.000 Deeply unpopular on the Palestine-Israel-Hamas conflict, right?

01:44:58.000 They tried to sit on every side of that issue and ultimately, you know, it did not help them.

01:45:03.000 There are a lot of people who were saying, I will not vote for Joe Biden over the sue.

01:45:06.000 So she's inheriting that. 0.76

01:45:08.000 I actually think this is one of the things that will be interesting when it comes to see who she taps to be her VP.

01:45:15.000 Because that person, you know, there's a rumor going around, there could be anybody, a ton of governors are on the shortlist, but there's a rumor that she might pick someone who has more diplomatic and national security expertise to balance out her shortcomings and their stance on any kind of, not just Israel, but like Ukraine, you know, Taiwan, any sort of geopolitical conflict would be telling.

01:45:37.000 Max Reddick says, Tim, Destiny is saying some reputation-damaging comments about you.

01:45:41.000 He made a video claiming that you maliciously lied about your no-go zone coverage in Sweden.

01:45:45.000 That's a pretty serious accusation.

01:45:48.000 Destiny is having a mental breakdown.

01:45:51.000 Something pertaining to his wife leaving him.

01:45:52.000 I don't know too much about it because I don't care for, you know, low-tier e-drama streamers, but he's particularly upset.

01:45:59.000 Because we said on the show last week, he would not be welcome on this show ever again.

01:46:03.000 Not because I have any personal beef with him, but because it is against the rules of every platform to glorify or advocate for the death of other individuals.

01:46:12.000 And for that reason, I'm hearing other podcasts saying they don't want to work with him, because if he says that on the show, they will get a strike or they will get banned.

01:46:19.000 So, I can't say too much about... He can say whatever he wants.

01:46:23.000 You know one thing I gotta say, guys?

01:46:26.000 The biggest mistake anyone can make, if they're talking to me, and they want to be friends with me, is to let me know that strangers on the internet are saying naughty things about me.

01:46:36.000 And it happens all the time.

01:46:37.000 Like, I'll have a friend be like, yo, like, hey, there's a video about you, and I'm like, my guy, this guy's got 100,000 subscribers.

01:46:42.000 The Young Turks make videos about me.

01:46:44.000 Like, Destiny is just some low-tier drama streamer who's complaining and glorifying that people are dead.

01:46:49.000 And what are we doing?

01:46:50.000 We are privileged, and we have the honor of sitting here with an attorney general talking about lawsuits at the federal level to defend election integrity.

01:47:00.000 So, by all means, if low-tier streamers want to complain and get into e-drama, they're allowed to do it.

01:47:07.000 We're gonna try and have serious conversations to the best of our abilities with great people who are... Well, I mean, I think you might be the only guy who's actually... Ken Paxton's doing a lot of good stuff, but we appreciate the work you do.

01:47:17.000 And you've done stuff with Patrick Morrissey, the AG of West Virginia, right?

01:47:20.000 Oh yeah, Morrissey's good.

01:47:21.000 I was on a panel at the RNC speaking with General Morrissey, hopefully next governor of West Virginia.

01:47:28.000 It's a privilege to be here.

01:47:29.000 I appreciate y'all having me.

01:47:29.000 Would you ever want to do a roundtable with other attorneys general?

01:47:32.000 I would be happy to.

01:47:33.000 Yeah, it would be a great opportunity.

01:47:35.000 I wonder who is your foil, right?

01:47:37.000 If you are the conservative AEG, you know, kicking down doors, filing all these bold lawsuits, who is like the Democrat?

01:47:45.000 Is there someone who we just don't pay attention to?

01:47:47.000 Who gets even more crazy stuff through?

01:47:50.000 Okay, I want to do a game show, political trivia, and it's left versus right, where we... We got to do this.

01:47:59.000 We have to do this.

01:48:00.000 I think it's a moneymaker.

01:48:00.000 It's a banger.

01:48:01.000 But I don't know.

01:48:02.000 I mean, the election's so soon.

01:48:04.000 The idea would be to go out and ask people, like, hey, are you a liberal or conservative?

01:48:07.000 Would you like to come on a game show, political trivia, news and politics trivia show, and you win prizes and we'll have cash prizes and stuff?

01:48:15.000 Because I can tell you this.

01:48:19.000 If you were to debate A.G.

01:48:20.000 Bailey, Letitia James, it would be like watching Mike Tyson box a five-year-old.

01:48:29.000 There's just no question.

01:48:30.000 I've talked to a lot of people.

01:48:34.000 Liberals will not admit this.

01:48:36.000 But I guarantee you, if we did a political game show with run-of-the-mill conservatives and run-of-the-mill liberals, the conservatives would win 6 out of 10, 7 out of 10.

01:48:46.000 You ask real simple questions about Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Volodymyr Zelensky, Vladimir Putin, and they're going to be able to answer at a higher rate than liberals.

01:48:56.000 Just no question.

01:48:59.000 I don't know what to say.

01:49:00.000 I wouldn't do very well on that show.

01:49:00.000 I don't know.

01:49:01.000 I actually might do better than I think I would.

01:49:03.000 We got Summit Forgery.

01:49:03.000 Let's read some more.

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01:49:23.000 All right.

01:49:25.000 Captain Insano says, Andrew Bailey, you're amazing, man.

01:49:29.000 I live in Springfield and I'm proud to have you as my AG.

01:49:32.000 MAGA.

01:49:33.000 MAGA.

01:49:33.000 Sorry, everybody.

01:49:35.000 Appreciate that.

01:49:36.000 Appreciate that.

01:49:37.000 Yeah.

01:49:39.000 Let's go.

01:49:40.000 Ethan Sacco says, A.G.

01:49:41.000 Bailey, I've got my entire family voting for you.

01:49:43.000 I tell them I don't care what else you do as long as you vote for Andrew Bailey.

01:49:49.000 Yeah.

01:49:49.000 Well, it seems like a lot of people are really happy with what you're doing.

01:49:51.000 I appreciate the support.

01:49:53.000 I mean, this is basically what happens is we see the breaking news about you filing suit against New York, and we're all like, finally!

01:49:59.000 Like, we've been freaking out, like, where is... and with all due respect, like...

01:50:03.000 West Virginia is deep red.

01:50:05.000 I mean, we could be seeing more state-level actions challenging what's going on, and it seems like you're definitely doing the most.

01:50:14.000 With all due respect to Ken Paxton and Morrissey, I know that there's action being done, but it seems like you're in the running, charging ahead in front of everybody else.

01:50:22.000 Proud to be leading the charge.

01:50:23.000 You know, I've got great colleagues, but yeah, at the end of the day, we're gonna do the right things for the people of the state of Missouri, and proud to be leading the charge on some of these issues.

01:50:30.000 Right on.

01:50:32.000 Barely a Millennial says, I live in Indiana.

01:50:34.000 How do I motivate my AG to act when it comes to returning lawfare?

01:50:38.000 Perhaps if more states moved this way, this madness would stop.

01:50:42.000 Just bombard your letters with postcards?

01:50:42.000 What do we do?

01:50:45.000 What's the game plan?

01:50:47.000 Look, I'm proud to have four or five states that signed an amicus brief in support.

01:50:53.000 Montana, Alaska, Florida, Iowa were all involved in filing an amicus brief in support of our lawsuit against New York.

01:51:00.000 I think at the end of the day, as this case progresses, you're going to see more attention and have other opportunities for other states to get on board.

01:51:08.000 Everybody's got their own jobs to do.

01:51:10.000 I think the important thing to remember here is each state has different legal authority for their Attorney General that's guided by the state constitution and state law.

01:51:18.000 And so again, like the weapons were issued are determined by our General Assembly and the people of our states and I just have a unique set of, I have a unique arsenal to use.

01:51:28.000 Do people come to you and say like, you were mentioning before, people are calling your office saying, can I even, is Trump going to be on the ballot?

01:51:35.000 Is it enough to just go to the attorney generals with the things that you are concerned about?

01:51:39.000 Maybe they don't have the authority to take the exact action that maybe you're taking, but part of it is just being in contact.

01:51:44.000 It's accessing your government.

01:51:46.000 The government exists to serve the people and protect the people's rights.

01:51:48.000 And so folks should absolutely have access to the government.

01:51:51.000 What's the most effective way?

01:51:52.000 Calling the office over and over again kind of thing?

01:51:55.000 I mean yeah we track our constituent service inquiries and we actually have folks can sign up for like newsletters and like we will even target if you're interested in a particular topic like pro-life issues then whenever we take pro-life action we will email you that stuff.

01:52:08.000 We also have a website that we've redone in order to make it more user-friendly where you can file complaints and reach out and so we do everything we can to do outreach to the folks and allow them.

01:52:18.000 For the folks to get in touch with their office.

01:52:20.000 Phone calls?

01:52:20.000 Is that better than letters?

01:52:21.000 Phone calls, emails.

01:52:23.000 Yeah, all of that, I think.

01:52:24.000 Letters.

01:52:24.000 All of those things are great ways to coordinate.

01:52:26.000 Coordinated phone call campaigns?

01:52:27.000 Like if you get 50 people to call at 1 o'clock on a Tuesday, is that super effective to get your attention?

01:52:32.000 He doesn't want to say anything because he's gonna...

01:52:34.000 Why would you sell them this?

01:52:35.000 I'm trying to build coalitions of like-minded state attorneys general.

01:52:41.000 I think your office in particular deserves credit for the fact that you're just so on the ball on X. I mean, whenever you have a press release go out, it's great to see because it's You know, right there, and you have so much information.

01:52:52.000 You have all the links anyone needs, like, to be informed.

01:52:55.000 I assume Missouri voters, not everyone's on X, but a lot of people rely on it, especially reporters.

01:52:59.000 Like, just being able to get the message out quickly is amazing.

01:53:03.000 And, you know, credit to my staff.

01:53:05.000 I don't get to, you know, I'm the quarterback, but I got a team around me.

01:53:08.000 And so my communications director, I owe her an enormous debt of gratitude.

01:53:11.000 She does so much to help me keep the public informed.

01:53:14.000 And I could not do it without her and her and her entire team.

01:53:16.000 So credit to my staff for putting us in a position to be able to play winning football.

01:53:21.000 So Jacob Hawley says, Mr. Bailey, what do you think about a peaceful divorce of our country or some type of civil war?

01:53:26.000 Also, will you maybe look into being governor of Missouri?

01:53:30.000 Also, Wisconsin is better than Missouri.

01:53:33.000 I love that, will you maybe look into it?

01:53:35.000 Check that out for us.

01:53:37.000 I was in Wisconsin last week.

01:53:39.000 Beautiful state.

01:53:41.000 Missouri's home for me.

01:53:42.000 I love the show me state.

01:53:44.000 And that's where I'm raising my family.

01:53:45.000 And you know, I'm going to serve in whatever capacity I can in order to inflict the most damage upon the enemy.

01:53:50.000 Enemies of freedom, safety and prosperity.

01:53:52.000 Do you think that one day you might run for governor or something like that?

01:53:55.000 You know, I, it would be foolhardy to like rule out options so I don't want to do that but I'm myopically

01:54:02.000 focused on being the Attorney General. That's all I want to do. I mean I didn't

01:54:05.000 come to this wanting to be a politician. I don't want to be a politician.

01:54:09.000 I want to be the Attorney General. I want to do it long term. I don't know

01:54:11.000 how anyone does it.

01:54:12.000 It's brutal man. Politics is a prison riot with fewer rules.

01:54:18.000 And that's okay.

01:54:19.000 We'll take it.

01:54:20.000 But I'm dedicated.

01:54:22.000 I'm raising my four small children in my home state.

01:54:24.000 And I get up in the mornings during the school year and I take them to the school bus.

01:54:28.000 And it reminds me why I do this.

01:54:30.000 It's so that they can enjoy the same freedom, safety, and prosperity that I got to enjoy as a kid in Missouri.

01:54:33.000 How long have you been in office?

01:54:35.000 About 18 months, 19 months now.

01:54:37.000 19 months.

01:54:38.000 Were the people of Missouri aware that you'd be doing such a good job when they voted for you?

01:54:43.000 What I mean is, it might sound a little silly, but There's people who are in office where you run in somewhat normal times, on a normal position, and then when you come to this extreme and egregious of lawfare actions, I see you as rising up to the challenge and doing what every other state should be doing to challenge what we see in New York, what the Biden administration is doing.

01:55:04.000 So I wonder if, when you were campaigning, were you saying like, I'm going to start filing these suits against the government for the BS they're doing.

01:55:13.000 You know, I was appointed to my office when Eric Schmidt was elected to the United States Senate.

01:55:19.000 I'm filling out the remainder of the unexpired portion of his term and running for my own term.

01:55:24.000 So I'm running for office right now.

01:55:25.000 But what I would say is that the people of the state of Missouri didn't really know me when I was appointed to this office.

01:55:31.000 And my hope and desire is that over the past 18 months, they've seen the work we're doing and are proud of it.

01:55:37.000 And I think that's reflected in some of the comments.

01:55:39.000 It's reflected in the comments that I get when I'm out on the trail.

01:55:43.000 And again, it's like, this is the Show Me State.

01:55:44.000 Results matter.

01:55:45.000 Politicians talk.

01:55:46.000 I get to work.

01:55:47.000 I think your story is so interesting because, you know, you got appointed to take over this term.

01:55:50.000 I keep saying re-elected, but really it's just to return to the office you're currently in, elected for the first time.

01:55:55.000 But again, like, you came in sort of guns blazing, so to speak.

01:55:59.000 I mean, I think a lot of people who were taking over a term that they weren't elected to might be like, well, I'm going to play it cautious and then I'll get re-elected.

01:56:04.000 And you were like, no, people want me to do this and I'll act now.

01:56:06.000 I was just put in the batting order in the World Series.

01:56:08.000 Why would I not swing for the fences?

01:56:10.000 I wonder if that's why you're doing so well then.

01:56:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:56:12.000 Yeah, I'm unfettered from those normal considerations that might inhibit my audacity.

01:56:19.000 I wonder if a lot of the people who get elected, their first term is building coalitions, but also making agreements with certain political action committees and things like this.

01:56:30.000 You come in and you're like, I got a job to do.

01:56:32.000 And I don't owe anyone any favors.

01:56:34.000 I don't owe anyone anything.

01:56:35.000 I can make my own decisions.

01:56:37.000 I'm not beholden to any special interest groups.

01:56:38.000 I'm not beholden to any entity that might otherwise, again, stymie forward progress on issues that are important to the people.

01:56:44.000 For the first part of the question, we did talk about it quite a bit already, but I'll give you just a real simple version if you want to give us a quick answer.

01:56:50.000 Do you see a risk of some kind of peaceful divorce or Balkanization in the U.S. 0.78

01:56:55.000 over what's going on?

01:56:56.000 I think there's absolutely a risk.

01:56:57.000 I think people are fed up and tired of it.

01:56:59.000 I think that, again, the government exists to protect our rights, and we see government weaponized time and time again against us.

01:57:06.000 And when you have people that feel like they don't have a voice in the process, whether it be because we have unelected bureaucrats passing laws instead of the people's elected representatives, or this shadow government who's running things in a deep state that we can't trust, those things make people not want to participate.

01:57:19.000 And withdraw, and that's enormously problematic.

01:57:22.000 We've got to get back to a place where we elevate the rules of the game above the players and the outcomes.

01:57:26.000 It's a rule of law issue, as you so clearly articulated in your analysis earlier.

01:57:31.000 Yeah, it freaks me out.

01:57:32.000 Because I think we might see, you know, like the Bundy Ranch kind of standoff, but the entire country.

01:57:37.000 Just people being like, you guys don't have authority anymore because you're not legitimate.

01:57:41.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:57:44.000 TRD says allegedly there are poor unemployed people in Missouri that are donating tens of thousands of dollars to ActBlue.

01:57:51.000 James O'Keefe has showed these as likely illegal donations funneled from billionaires.

01:57:56.000 Will you look into it?

01:57:57.000 Yeah, look, we're going to use every tool at our disposal to make sure that contributions that are solicited in the state of Missouri are not done so under false pretenses.

01:58:06.000 You've seen that in our work on the Media Matters case and other cases.

01:58:09.000 We're willing to take bold action in that space.

01:58:11.000 There's a viral tweet going around right now, we didn't get into it because I don't know if it's confirmed or not, that the donations to Kamala Their arguing came from one billionaire who broke it up and was illicitly, it was being illicitly sent through hundreds of thousands of individuals.

01:58:25.000 James O'Keefe had an investigation where he went to people's homes and he said, how come you donated 57,000 times $5?

01:58:32.000 And they're like, what?

01:58:33.000 And it's like, yes, over the year.

01:58:35.000 How is that possible?

01:58:36.000 Does it mean you're donating five times a day?

01:58:37.000 And these people are like, I have no idea what you're talking about.

01:58:41.000 It's legal, as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, to give someone every year a gift of like $13,000 untaxed.

01:58:48.000 But if that gift has a purpose down the line, then it becomes illegal?

01:58:52.000 Well, so consideration is the term for something in exchange of value.

01:58:57.000 So if there is money given with no consideration, it's a gift.

01:59:01.000 And there's actually a couple different ways it can be handled.

01:59:03.000 It can be handled as a yearly tax-free gift, which goes up every year.

01:59:05.000 I don't know if you know the answer.

01:59:06.000 It's like $13,000.

01:59:07.000 I don't know the amount, but yeah.

01:59:09.000 But then there's also lifetime gift totals, which can be higher in the millions.

01:59:12.000 But if there is consideration, then it's taxable.

01:59:16.000 So yeah.

01:59:17.000 Well, it goes to become a criminal offense.

01:59:19.000 You always look at the mens rea, the mental state, like, what was the intent behind it? 0.52

01:59:23.000 And sometimes that's difficult to ascertain.

01:59:25.000 But that's, you know, that would be the result of a criminal investigation.

01:59:28.000 Yep.

01:59:29.000 So what was your question?

01:59:31.000 Because if a billionaire gave $10,000 to a thousand people and then they all gave that money to a candidate, if there was consideration ahead of time... Well, and if there was an intent to evade campaign finance law, okay, then we got a problem.

01:59:43.000 So if a billionaire gave a hundred thousand people, you know, a thousand bucks each or whatever, and then said, See you later.

01:59:52.000 Do whatever you want.

01:59:53.000 But then they all gave it to Kamala? 0.98

01:59:55.000 Yeah, he's gonna get arrested, you know, but that being said,

01:59:58.000 well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

02:00:00.000 If he gave it to Trump.

02:00:01.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:00:02.000 If he gave it to Kamala, they'd say, looks good to me.

02:00:04.000 All right, we'll grab it.

02:00:07.000 All right.

02:00:07.000 Well, I will.

02:00:08.000 We were going a little over.

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02:00:32.000 Bailey, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:32.000 A.G.

02:00:34.000 Yeah, hey, we really appreciate you guys having me on the show.

02:00:36.000 Big fan.

02:00:37.000 Just so proud to be here representing the people of the state of Missouri.

02:00:40.000 We're gonna keep fighting the good fight.

02:00:41.000 And people are going to follow you on Twitter, X at AG Andrew Bailey.

02:00:45.000 That's right.

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02:00:57.000 Man, that was so informational, dude.

02:00:58.000 That was awesome.

02:00:59.000 Truly epic.

02:01:00.000 Thank you for coming, and thank you for divulging the info.

02:01:03.000 And if the show did cut out, I hear at one point it'll be on Spotify and other websites.

02:01:09.000 You're going to hear us going, oh, it's out?

02:01:11.000 Yeah.

02:01:11.000 Oh, I don't know what point it came up.

02:01:13.000 We have an epic conversation about the deep state.

02:01:15.000 It was really fun.

02:01:16.000 YouTube.

02:01:16.000 I believe YouTube drops the dropped portion.

02:01:19.000 And so if you're watching or if you if you watch the video just skips over.

02:01:22.000 So I guess the main thing if you want to get it all check us out on Spotify.

02:01:24.000 I'm Ian Crossland and I will see you later.

02:01:26.000 Yeah, thanks so much for coming on.

02:01:28.000 I feel like I have to tell everyone that you didn't actually know your own ex-handle because you're so focused on what you're doing, I guess.

02:01:34.000 And you're like, we have to ask my staff members really quick.

02:01:36.000 So I think that's really cool.

02:01:37.000 I think it's a testament to how dedicated you are to your job.

02:01:40.000 And I hope you come back soon.

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