On today's show, Alex and Matt talk about the latest on the Epstein scandal, the Democratic response to it, and the potential impact it could have on the mid-terms. Plus, Matt tells the story of how he got into politics, and Alex tries to figure out how to get a cup of hot cocoa.
00:02:25.000Trump's DOJ, Pam Bondi, has fired the Jeffrey Epstein prosecutor, who just so happens to be Comey's daughter, Maureen Comey.
00:02:35.000It's a weird story, but apparently the pressure is working.
00:02:38.000Charlie Kirk came around and said Trump needs to do something about this.
00:02:42.000I believe he was calling for some kind of press conference to address the issues.
00:02:45.000Now, Donald Trump himself this morning said, you are my past supporters, and if you care about this, I don't want your support, calling it the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.
00:02:56.000Now, there was a fascinating post by one Republican saying the MAGA influencers need to realize they have no power base.
00:03:02.000Trump is their power, and they've got nothing.
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00:09:15.000Attorney General Pam Bondi fired Maureen Comey, a prosecutor with the Southern District of New York, who had prosecuted deceased child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and Gheelane Maxwell.
00:09:25.000Comey is senior trial counsel as the daughter of James Comey.
00:09:29.000The reason for her firing was not immediately clear.
00:09:31.000She did not immediately respond to phone calls and an email seeking comment, Politico said.
00:09:35.000Comey, who has worked in his attorney's office for nearly a decade, prosecuted both Epstein and his associate, Gee Lane Maxwell.
00:09:42.000Maureen Comey worked at the SDNY for almost a decade.
00:09:46.000I think this is something we should consider.
00:09:48.000As Donald Trump is calling this a hoax or whatever, he's saying, there's no excuse for not giving the people some answers in Epstein.
00:09:57.000But when you find out, and I know, like, this is actually a, most of us knew this about who prosecuted him, but it's Comey's daughter who was prosecuting Epstein.
00:10:07.000You have to wonder about, listen, when we say we want to know what was going on, I don't for a second think it's just that Comey, I'm sorry, that Comey, Epstein was working with Intel agents and blackmailing.
00:10:46.000I mean, first of all, I got to say, I do feel very sympathetic to Trump's attitude to this, right?
00:10:52.000Which is he's sitting there with this incredible election victory after everything they did to him.
00:10:58.000And he comes back and he wins the popular vote and he sweeps the swing states and he's getting to action and he's delivered the most incredible start to presidency anyone can remember.
00:11:09.000And all these great things are happening.
00:11:11.000And I can totally sympathize with his frustration.
00:11:48.000And I did a whole piece on that plea deal, that unbelievable plea deal that Alex Acosta agreed to when he was the U.S. attorney down in Florida.
00:12:00.000And the most shameful thing about that was his explanation.
00:12:03.000This is like 2007 when they first did Epstein.
00:12:06.000And he basically got off with barely any punishment at all.
00:12:09.000It was like some kind of house arrest.
00:12:13.000And Acosta said, well, it's up to the equivalent of, well, what can you expect?
00:12:18.000This is the best we could imagine, we could hope for.
00:12:21.000In other words, he's rich, he's powerful, so of course he's going to get something that's basically not a punishment at all.
00:12:30.000And I think that goes to the heart of why people are so fired up about this, because it's that same old story that the elites just get away with stuff and there's no accountability.
00:12:41.000So it's beyond just the details of the case.
00:12:44.000It's this feeling of when are we going to get justice and accountability for these people that have been in charge?
00:12:51.000And the system just looks after itself.
00:13:59.000So this is totally in line with what you'd expect from him.
00:14:03.000However, you can feel it in all the criticism from all the people, you know, in the base and the leaders of that movement who are saying, as they make the criticisms, they're all saying, we love you, we want to support you.
00:14:18.000You know, they don't want to get into a war with Trump.
00:14:21.000And exactly as you say, the minute that he actually makes a move in that direction, everyone will be cheering.
00:14:43.000I think the influencers really would fall in line were it not for the fact that specifically Gen Z, but the young Trump supporters are so incensed about this.
00:14:53.000And I talked about this last night, how young people really have just taken this particular issue and have really just, it's really just offended them because they've dealt with COVID being lied to about COVID.
00:15:08.000They were lied to about so many things.
00:15:10.000They feel like they were lied to about whether or not our system works because they don't have the same opportunity that their parents had or they feel like they don't have.
00:15:17.000That's the huge point underlying all of this frustration and anger.
00:17:03.000And I think that's, I mean, I do connect it to this stuff about the pardons for Fauci, for example, in relation to the pandemic.
00:17:10.000And in California, I mean, literally one of the things that I've announced is that as governor, I will have a COVID accountability commission to look.
00:17:17.000We had the most extreme and destructive lockdowns, the anti-science nonsense, the school closures, businesses closed, churches, all of that.
00:17:25.000Gavin Newsom pushing all that, even though they knew that it was making no difference.
00:17:29.000There's been no accountability for that.
00:17:32.000And it's not just people in government because young people can look back to the 2008 crisis and nobody in a position of authority at any bank went to jail.
00:17:45.000And the government just printed money and ruined the dollar for young people because the effects of that money printing are really now starting to really be felt by the average American.
00:17:55.000Also, you can make the same exact point in relation to the lockdowns and all of that.
00:17:59.000Because all the money that was spent unnecessarily, because we needn't have shut everything down, we're going to be paying that off.
00:18:06.000Those people are going to be paying that off for generations.
00:18:08.000Another point on accountability that I think is just so kind of crazy when you look at going back to the Epstein story narrowly, like they say, first of all, if there's nothing wrong here, why is Ghillain Maxwell in jail?
00:18:22.000But then the other question is like, why is the only person that's actually been punished for this or held accountable a woman who is like not even a main character?
00:18:33.000I do love this because when the memo came out, there was this meme where it was, so Jeffrey Epstein took his own life right before he was going to be proven innocent.
00:18:40.000And Ghillaine Maxwell's in jail for nothing.
00:18:42.000And I'm immediately like, no, no, no, no, no, guys.
00:18:44.000The memo says that she was trafficking to Jeffrey.
00:18:47.000However, the memo also said that there was no evidence that would predicate an investigation into third parties.
00:18:52.000So the point they were making was the official story is Ghylaine Maxwell manifested underage girls from the ether to give to Epstein.
00:19:02.000They were trafficked from no one to him.
00:19:40.000But some people, there's like a viral 4chan post where they post something like, They came in in the wee hours of morning, brought Epstein out, and then, you know, next thing anybody knew, they said that he was dead, but they don't know that he ever came in.
00:19:55.000And the conspiracy theory is that they shuffled him out of the jail.
00:19:58.000The other ridiculous thing, just pure kind of, you know, handling basics of this thing, where they put out the video and there's the missing minute or whatever.
00:20:09.000And then there's no explanation when they do it.
00:20:12.000And then they're cleaning it up afterwards when people ask questions rather than putting it out, as many people have pointed out, just, you know, if this is going to be your position, have a press conference, release the information, be ready to take questions, explain at the outset why there's the missing minutes, and then people are not immediately suspicious.
00:20:55.000And you're like, oh my, like they're trying to change a tire on a car and they're like, they can't get the nut off.
00:21:00.000This is what I see when I see the Trump administration's PR handling of all the Epstein stuff.
00:21:04.000It's like watching all of them fumble and flub all of the optics on this, knowing that I'm being somewhat facetious, but I feel like literally anybody could have done a better job at, they could have hired like a marketing intern fresh out of college to ask them what the plan should be and how you handle the release of these memos or whatever you're doing.
00:21:24.000It's out of character too, because the Trump administration has been so good at optics and so good at messaging.
00:21:45.000And the problem is that he has a bombastic personality and an ego that won't allow him to pull back and look at things at a grander scale.
00:21:53.000And when you keep telling people, well, you're no longer a supporter of mine.
00:21:56.000When you tell, like, the amount of fumbling that's going on right now is, look, the people who don't want to see this going on are like, look, anyone talking about Trump's base being a cult, his entire base is taking him to task right now.
00:22:11.000We got this from CNN, the most trusted name in news.
00:22:15.000Apparently, Trump lashes out at weaklings who believe Epstein bull-ish amid building GOP pressure to release documents.
00:22:23.000I just love the point Brows is just making.
00:22:25.000These liberals are going out being like, ha ha, you're an occult.
00:22:27.000Meanwhile, literally every Trump supporter is like, Trump, what are you doing?
00:22:30.000This has been the greatest week ever to watch all of this stuff like fall down for people where you're like, look, you have to understand that people do not look at this as a cult.
00:25:09.000When they say there's no third parties involved, it's like, okay, maybe you should investigate more than just her and figure out where the kids were coming from.
00:25:16.000It's not like Elaine Maxwell pulled children from the ether.
00:25:40.000I want to stress what he doesn't understand is I get, I think the clarification is MAGA influencer refers specifically to people who are of Trump and only Trump and they don't have anything else going for them.
00:25:54.000Prominent personalities and X or whatever.
00:25:57.000But MAGA influencer is going to Make a lot of people feel like you're talking about them.
00:26:03.000Because who are the people critical of Trump right now?
00:26:06.000They're saying, okay, Trump, I trust you.
00:26:08.000So when he's criticizing people, he's basically saying, in the periphery of the Trump base, I guarantee you, there's going to be someone like, you know, Andrew Schultz already did, but not just that, there's going to be somebody who voted for Trump, supports Trump like what Trump is doing, but also is a hothead just like Trump.
00:26:26.000And there will be, as long as it's one, it's bad, one guy who goes, oh yeah, mother, fine, I ain't voting.
00:26:40.000And also because, like, if the Republicans lose the House, there's impeachments.
00:26:47.000There will be no legislation passed that conservatives think is good.
00:26:51.000And more to the point, if a Democrat wins in 2028 or whatever, in the next election, they're going to come after Republicans again.
00:27:02.000If you think that what Biden was doing, what Biden was doing and how they were attacking conservatives was bad before, it's only going to be worse because there's actually been attempts to change things.
00:27:13.000And they know that another Republican, the Democrats and the people that you would consider deep staters, they'll know that whoever is in the office of the president, if they're allowed to be a Republican, they're going to actually do more.
00:28:18.000Maybe the weird part of this as well is I don't understand what is holding them back from transparency because this argument that, oh, well, you're seeing it from the left.
00:28:30.000Well, Trump must be in the files and that's why, it's just to me so preposterous.
00:28:35.000If he was, why wouldn't they have used that against him in the past?
00:28:42.000The other point that people need to remember is that the original soft prosecution with that ridiculous plea deal or whatever, that was under Bush, 2007.
00:29:13.000He says, are you a conservative that voted for secure borders, ICE RAIDs, and end-of-child mutilation, designating the cartels as terrorist organizations, DEI out of government, and the defunding of NPR?
00:29:22.000Well, President Trump is delivering on all of those issues.
00:29:27.000The only issue is, why is it so antagonistic in the way you're phrasing it?
00:29:34.000The administration, this tweet was good, but he should have said something like, I understand people are upset on this issue, and I understand why, but please at least consider our victories.
00:29:45.000The thing is, for topics like this, whether it's for people who work in politics or even people in this space who comment on it, you tend to look at things at a macro scale.
00:29:54.000You're looking at things in the theoretical and as tactics rather than as what is actually happening in the world.
00:30:02.000And if you're somebody who's just an average everyday person and we're talking about horrific things being done to children, they don't care about all of these things because that is so egregious to the average everyday person that it can't be looked at as just one issue and a plate full of issues, even if they're succeeding on every other aspect that they're attempting to deliver on because it is so bad.
00:30:31.000There's an assumption that there are a lot more people involved and that there are a lot more people that have sexually assaulted children and essentially raped children.
00:30:41.000That's possible, but that's not guaranteed.
00:30:45.000We don't actually know that there's a lot more.
00:30:48.000It could have been just Epstein and what is it, Prince Andrew was his name?
00:30:57.000And I'm not saying that it's impossible that there are more people, but the point that I'm making is they're assuming that this is the case.
00:31:04.000And because of that, until they get their pound of flesh, they're not going to be satisfied.
00:31:10.000So even if there were more information to be released, the people that believe, just like the people that believe that Epstein was Mossad and that it's involved with Israel.
00:31:24.000But that aspect of it as well goes to this suspicion that this is all just the government and the deep state looking after itself and whatever.
00:31:32.000And that's another thing that can be put to rest if you just had transparency.
00:31:37.000And the fact that it's not being done fuels all that speculation.
00:31:43.000And I just think it's ridiculous that I truly don't understand.
00:31:46.000I genuinely don't understand what is the barrier to just being transparent.
00:31:52.000And one of the biggest rallying cries for Trump from 2016 onwards is the idea of fake news and that you are being lied to by an evil government and an evil political media apparatus that's telling you one thing and doing another.
00:32:05.000And now he is saying one thing and doing another.
00:32:10.000You can't work your way back from that.
00:32:12.000Like when you were once seen as somebody who was supposed to drain the swamp, bring people back to a world with actual functional government, even though we know that's kind of oxymoronic in a lot of ways.
00:32:22.000You can't talk about truth and then start sidestepping your own words and have the same and expect to have the same impact On people that you had when people were first brought to the idea of fake media and evil politicians.
00:32:36.000Let's jump to this next story from Mediaite.
00:32:40.000Alex Jones goes off over Trump throwing his Epstein disgruntled fans out of MAGA.
00:32:45.000And I think Alex Jones was basically saying, like, he will never defend or protect globalist pedos and traffickers just because it's Trump or just because of the victories we may be getting.
00:35:13.000The influencers that are in Trump's orbit continue to make news on it.
00:35:17.000And until I don't see this stopping, until more information comes out or until Trump actually addresses it in a way that will satisfy his base.
00:36:29.000Trump used to understand as much as the media might say it's a cult, he knew he needed to rally this group of support to get their backing.
00:36:41.000Now with this post, it's like he's banging the table saying, don't you dare defy me.
00:36:46.000Yeah, but I think that it's because he feels that he's not getting credit for the scale of the results and achievements so far in his presidency.
00:37:46.000That feels like a disconnect from the seriousness of what we're talking about.
00:37:50.000When you're sidestepping like that, when you're turning it into jokes and making memes, and then the rest of us who are kind of the ones who are on the receiving end of whatever policies you're enacting see the seriousness of it.
00:38:02.000They're like, you're not taking this seriously.
00:38:05.000And to be fair to the base and to him is that usually that personality for him works very well.
00:38:10.000And his kind of disconnected approach to politics is something people find charming in a lot of ways.
00:38:19.000And also the other thing is that he's so the brilliant thing about him, which is I think it's a big driver of why people love him, is he's so transparent about things usually.
00:38:30.000And you don't get the typical politician BS and, you know, circumnavigating the issue and people of not being interested.
00:38:49.000Well, then that's something that should make people ask questions.
00:38:52.000Why is it that you've behaved this way on literally every issue if you have nothing to hide?
00:38:56.000Why is your approach to this topic so drastically different than how you've approached literally everything else you've done in government?
00:39:18.000It'll be like, not a good day for a joke.
00:39:20.000I've got another, actually, it just occurred to me because this is a really good question, is I wonder whether it's something to do with the people involved who he's just very, very, you know, fond of.
00:39:30.000You know, Pam Bondi was, you know, on his defense team for impeachment.
00:39:34.000Akash and Dan were absolutely kind of right there, massive champions for him all the way through, totally loyal.
00:39:42.000And I just wonder if he's like, you're not, no, these are really my people and back off if there's an element of that.
00:40:33.000Now that the Democrats are like all over it in a totally cynical way after having had no interest in any of this for years, I think it's incredibly important that we come out as a party and a movement on the right side of this.
00:40:49.000It's an interesting thought on that because it is one of those things where it's like their eyes are closed the whole time this is going on.
00:40:54.000But there have been elements of Trump's base and fans, or at least people who held their nose and voted for him, who have been adamant about the release of these files and the follow-up to this case for years.
00:41:05.000And it just proves which side is actually approaching their view on politics from a critical way rather than team sport mentality, which is what so much of it is these days.
00:41:19.000There's not going to be anything that's going to fix this until Trump himself actually does it.
00:41:24.000It's just a list with one name and it's just Prince Andrew.
00:41:27.000Look, I don't know what it is, but I don't know what's actually going on.
00:41:32.000There's a lot of people that'll swear up and down that, oh, I know this and this is what it's got to be and you have to see it this way and et cetera.
00:43:08.000They don't know that for seemingly no reason, after the children, their children, defeat the evil clown, they are like, he literally, it's nuts.
00:43:19.000It's like, imagine the story is written like this.
00:43:22.000They defeated the clown and they cheered.
00:44:23.000If you violate children, there's a meme on the internet that I'm not going to say, but there's a reason why people have such a strong emotional reaction to violating children.
00:44:31.000Let's jump to this from the post-millennial.
00:44:33.000Trump supports appointing a special prosecutor for the Epstein files.
00:44:57.000And then let's focus on the things that matter.
00:44:59.000So he's on board with the situation of getting a special prosecutor and having the Epstein situation put into that so that can be formally looked at.
00:45:08.000And it's legitimate that you're looking at.
00:45:26.000You know, the challenge, I think, for Trump right now is that he's dug himself in too deep.
00:45:30.000In order to get out of it, he's going to need a Patsy.
00:45:33.000Someone's got to get thrown under the bus.
00:45:35.000And the expectation is going to be Pam Bondi.
00:45:38.000I think he's been very clear that he's supporting it.
00:45:41.000I think, but this is a way out if they do something like this.
00:45:44.000It's like, let's get it all out there.
00:45:46.000Yeah, but saying, I don't want your support.
00:45:48.000Yeah, that was if he were to come out next week and say, I have been made aware that Pam Bondi had withheld information, leading me to make incorrect conclusions, and for this, we will immediately be taking action and terminating her, blah, blah, blah.
00:46:04.000I don't get any sense that that's what that's that.
00:46:07.000But I don't know how he recovers from saying, I don't want your support.
00:46:10.000There's going to be a lot of people who will say, then you can never have it later.
00:46:15.000I think that people are just a very kind of personal relationship with Trump, and people, he's so transparent usually.
00:46:22.000I think people can see he's just really annoyed about all this.
00:46:25.000And that's the flavor of what he put out there.
00:46:29.000I think that, look, I agree that something needs to happen to get the transparency.
00:46:34.000And I think that is the way out of this.
00:46:36.000And if he does that, as we were saying earlier, I think people will just move on.
00:46:40.000And this isn't the only time recently, like we were talking about the other day, when he swore during Israel and Iran and during the bombing, and then he was getting really upset.
00:46:51.000Now, normally he's able to deflect with his own brand of humor and bombastic personality.
00:46:57.000But when you're swearing on live television, that doesn't inspire confidence for somebody who's supposed to be the supposed leader of the free world, right?
00:47:05.000So I feel like he's just taken some L's in the last, beyond this, with people questioning why we were getting involved with that.
00:47:12.000And it just hasn't been a smooth sitting like you were saying.
00:47:14.000Maybe he feels like he's not getting the credit he deserves.
00:47:17.000And the average everyday person just like, I didn't put you in office to get credit.
00:47:22.000We put you in office to do things for us.
00:47:50.000But as for a special prosecutor, that would actually take the heat off for a while because then he can just refer to the special prosecutor and people could say, you can say, look, we're looking into it.
00:48:03.000And obviously the people that are never going to be satisfied are still not going to be satisfied, of course, because until they see the results that they have already decided are out there, they will never be satisfied.
00:48:14.000But I think that a special prosecutor is probably the best thing he can do, at least at this point.
00:48:19.000You know, I don't know that it'll help Republicans in the midterms.
00:48:23.000Yeah, I say, like, are they going to be, is the idea that they appoint a special prosecutor, but then once the midterm comes along, you're like, look, you did this this long ago.
00:48:32.000Yeah, but I mean, I'm still of the opinion the important thing at the midterms is the economy.
00:48:37.000Oh, I was just about to say exactly that.
00:48:39.000It's going to be real things that affect your real life.
00:49:14.000It's going to be the boomers and Gen X. They're going to be the ones that go to vote in the midterms.
00:49:20.000And if they feel like the economy is okay and they feel like they're making money and they feel like their dollar is going further than it did two years ago, they are going to vote for the Republicans.
00:49:32.000If they don't, then the Republicans are going to get trounced.
00:49:34.000You get a much lower turnout in the midterms.
00:49:37.000I mean, funnily enough, that is a big focus for me because in California, that's how I see my path to victory, which is actually getting a higher turnout than you usually get for people who really are fired up and want change in a real sense because everything is so expensive in California.
00:49:54.000Highest housing costs, highest gas prices.
00:49:57.000I'm out there with a plan for how we can fix that.
00:49:59.000$3 gas, own your own home, practical things.
00:50:04.000And that's my whole plan is like, let's go out and vote for it.
00:50:08.000And of course, if you vote for me as governor, you're also voting in the House races in California, which, by the way, will make the difference because that's where most of the really close contests are.
00:50:19.000You're going to get that light rail finished in California.
00:50:30.000Trump has just said, he just truthed a few minutes ago.
00:50:33.000To the law-abiding, tax-paying, hardworking citizens of the United States of America, I'm thrilled to announce that I have officially freed you from funding California's disastrously overpriced high-speed train to nowhere.
00:51:20.000I mean, it's actually more of a Republican state than people think.
00:51:23.000Like, the average share of the vote in California for Republicans in the last few years is 40% or so.
00:51:29.000I mean, that's not 50, but it's not 20.
00:51:31.000There's actually a lot more Republicans than people think.
00:51:33.000But one party rule, where they assume that they're never going to get challenged and they're going to have it all their own way, they get totally arrogant.
00:51:42.000They don't care what they do with the money because they assume they're never going to have a challenge on the other side.
00:51:47.000All they pay attention to are their activists, their base, the unions that fund their campaigns, the trial lawyers that fund them, all of that.
00:52:19.000It's all the working class people who support the industry, the electricians and the people who build the sets and the make hair and makeup, all of that.
00:52:26.000All of that is, and you've got bars, right?
00:52:29.000One of my, the first day of my campaign, I made a specific point of going to this bar, the Pineapple Hill Saloon, because she was there.
00:52:36.000Do you remember that viral video of that when Gavin Newsom shut down outdoor dining?
00:52:43.000And except there were all these loopholes.
00:52:46.000And this woman, Angela Marson, she'd built this lovely outdoor patio to comply with all the stupid rules, invested her own money in it.
00:52:54.000And then he just, you know, at a stroke, shuts down outdoor dining.
00:52:57.000The next day, this lavish kind of canteen is built in her parking lot because it's some movie that they've got an exception.
00:53:06.000Anyway, I went there to make that point about the pandemic and accountability and the lockdowns.
00:53:11.000But one of the things that came out of that is like they're right there in Studio City, massive collapse in business because of the collapse of Hollywood.
00:53:21.000I remember Rob Lowe went on a podcast and talked about they film an American game show in Ireland because they fly Americans to Ireland to film it in Ireland.
00:53:43.000That's why, like, most of the movies that are being made today, they start filming in the UK because the tax credits are so much higher over there.
00:53:50.000I just want to give a quick shout-out.
00:54:22.000And then there's working class people who do hair and makeup and lighting, and they get paid 20 bucks an hour.
00:54:28.000And when those films break down and leave because the state is mismanaged, working class jobs evaporate.
00:54:33.000There's another really important point about this, which is that if you get into the details, like Gavin Newsom's talking about increasing the tax credits and whatever, but even the group that hands out the tax credits in California, because they're so kind of left and obsessed with their kind of political priorities, even the support is not going to these big movies.
00:54:52.000They're giving it to kind of small indie films.
00:54:55.000And we love, I want all films to be successful, but it's these big movies that employ a lot of people for a long time.
00:55:02.000So they got job security and they're there and they sort of, they're against all of that.
00:55:07.000And they're happy to see it disappear.
00:55:10.000Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
00:55:12.000Zoran Mamdani gets heroes welcome from lefty Dems at AOC hosted breakfast in DC.
00:55:19.000Meanwhile, Democrat strategist says party should pray long and hard for an effing depression in the United States.
00:55:26.000So I want to highlight this real quick just to point out, as mad as we all may be about Trump and the Epstein thing, I'm still like, I'll put it this way.
00:55:35.000I might get mad at my brother, but I'm not really that mad.
00:55:40.000Like at the end of the day, he's my brother.
00:56:05.000And a lot of people, you know, were talking about like when I sat down with Bill and politics was like with his show Club Random, it's a general conversation.
00:56:13.000So politics only comes in a little bit when, and then he tries to change the subject.
00:57:02.000That is the general sentiment you will see online.
00:57:05.000The type of person who says that there is no left in this country, there is a center and a far right, are the same people who say that CNN is now a pro-Trump network.
00:57:14.000You know, I'm going to pick on you, Jess.
00:57:17.000I'm going to pick on Jess Margera because I was tweeting at him earlier.
00:58:26.000This is your one-of-the-mill lib on the internet.
00:58:28.000He says, Epstein was Pam Bondi's biggest campaign donor as Florida Attorney General from 2011 and 19 won a ton of evidence lawsuits.
00:58:35.000He then said, Why am I a better journalist than anyone in mainstream media in 90 seconds while wearing a pink Floyd pajama pants making coffee?
01:01:57.000Look, I have no, that's the thing, though.
01:01:58.000Like, if you just go, if you're on the internet, you should assume that 90% of what you're looking at is probably fake to raise their hands.
01:02:05.000You know what my favorite internet meme is?
01:02:08.000On the internet, no one knows you're 12.
01:02:11.000There's a bunch of adult men on X right now furiously thumbing away on their phones, being like, you're stupid.
01:03:04.000I mean, most of the time when I'm scrolling through threads and I see two people like passionately arguing with each other, I'm like, don't they have things to do?
01:03:11.000Sometimes I see, I sort of put out my post, you know, some policy thing or whatever.
01:03:15.000And then you look a lot of and they look at the replies and then it just goes on and on and they're having this endless debate, two people I have no idea.
01:03:23.000And it's gone way off point from whatever the first thing was.
01:03:27.000I guess it makes them feel accusing each other of being this or that.
01:03:34.000I suppose it gives them some sense of fulfillment to sit there and argue with another person.
01:03:39.000All that makes me feel like is like you're out in the middle of the ocean screaming at nothing, which is a good reason not to do it, but people can't help themselves.
01:04:23.000It's baked into the way the internet works.
01:04:25.000As long as there's internet anonymity and there are people that take things seriously, once those paths cross of the S posters and the people that are very committed to whatever topic is being discussed, look out.
01:04:38.000See, apparently Roslertz posted that 845, the House is set to vote.
01:04:51.000And it's funny because when I, you know what I do love about the internet is that most people know that I post things sarcastically to make a point, but Most people watching this show.
01:05:08.000So they've simultaneously written two stories at the exact same time.
01:05:11.000One is Tim Poole insanely defends Trump's cover-up of the Epstein case, while simultaneously other outlets are writing, you know, even Tim Poole is slamming Trump over Epstein because they can't understand sarcasm because they're one-dimensional thinkers and they're probably NPCs.
01:05:26.000And you shouldn't use tone indicators on the internet.
01:06:59.000So all of these libs came out desperately to defend a bad amendment that we don't want passed while I'm saying we do want the files released.
01:07:07.000So I hope this is they are going to put forward Rokana and Massey.
01:07:12.000I hope they put this one forward and we get it.
01:07:29.000And all of the Republicans voted no to the ban because there was a bunch of other stuff in the bill, of course, that it was full of that would have been bad for everybody.
01:07:40.000But then a bunch of people are like, look at the Republicans, say that they're okay with people being a bad person.
01:07:45.000The California legislature, the Democrats, did something like this where they blocked a bill from a Republican that would have made trafficking kids for sex describing a serious and violent crime that would have automatic jail terms.
01:08:01.000They were embarrassed about the fact that they're on the wrong side of such an unbelievable issue.
01:08:06.000So then they put in an amendment that called for an investigation into it or something.
01:08:14.000And then they ran, and then of course the Republicans voted against that because they wanted the real crime.
01:08:19.000Then they ran ads against the Republicans saying, you are for child sex trafficking.
01:08:27.000I mean, it's literally the most cynical, disgusting thing I've ever seen.
01:08:32.000But this is the game that they always remember that.
01:08:34.000Maybe we just need the United States as a republic to collapse and then Trump to rise up as the emperor and just whip this country in shape and bring the glory of the American empire.
01:08:45.000I mean, I say things like this and then everyone laughs and then some journalist somewhere's like, there you are.
01:08:56.000I don't endorse, but I might not disavow.
01:08:59.000You know, I will say how weird it is to like the way I talk on the show is largely how I talk to my friends.
01:09:06.000I'll make a joke and I'll say, like, maybe Trump just needs to arrest all the Democrats and then take the country over as an authoritarian dictatorship.
01:09:12.000And then everyone's like, okay, we get it to him.
01:10:39.000I've got so much to say about this, but I think that, I mean, I've seen her talking about it, but maybe because they don't think it's got any chance of, I have no idea.
01:10:49.000Well, let me ask you about California, right?
01:11:24.000And this child let, you know, not that long ago, Gavin Newsom was screaming one of his like, you know, trolling posts I saw at Republicans, I think, in another state, who were talking about working class kids getting jobs in construction or whatever it is, work experience, you know, and like kids should get real work experience and apprenticeships and whatever.
01:11:48.000He, Gavin Newsom, called it child labor.
01:11:51.000Republicans are now the party of child labor while it's going on in his state, and now he's defending it.
01:12:13.000Of course, the whole thing is so obscene that they're now taking that side just to get at Trump and pander to the base about fighting the fascist army and all this.
01:12:26.000I covered during the drought in the, I think 10 years ago was actually, I covered the drought.
01:12:32.000I went and did a couple documentaries on the story, some mini docs, and I met with a bunch of farmers and I talked to them.
01:12:38.000Certainly not anyone was championing illegal immigration, not that we met.
01:12:43.000However, there is a concern that many of these farms in California are employing illegal immigrant labor under the table.
01:12:49.000Do you think they're going to lobby against you and try and stop your bid?
01:12:52.000So I'm a huge supporter of the ag industry.
01:12:56.000The Democrats are trying to crush the ag industry.
01:12:58.000It's the biggest and greatest in the world.
01:13:00.000You know, we have so much of the world production of actually, by the way, healthy food, right?
01:13:06.000Not the stuff that, you know, high fructose corn syrup and all that.
01:14:04.000As well as having a high proportion of illegal immigrant labor in the farming industry, we've got millions of people in California, Californians, citizens, who are not working.
01:14:14.000If you look at the labor force participation rate in California, it's historically low.
01:14:55.000So you're getting paid more for not working than actually doing these ag jobs.
01:15:00.000I think this is a great thing to point out, too, that it is good, healthy food out of California.
01:15:05.000Like I was saying, the dairy farms, I was actually surprised based on all of the leftist propaganda about dairy to see how the dairy farms operate in California.
01:16:19.000I mean, they really, look, the idea that farmers don't want to treat their animals well is just ridiculous.
01:16:25.000But the thing I just want to say on the workers is very, it's a very simple point, right?
01:16:30.000Before we start importing illegal workers, why don't we get the people who are there, Americans, Californians, in my case, that's what I'm focused on, who could be working but are not working and we're paying them not to work.
01:16:46.000Why don't we start with trying to get them working before we declare a labor shortage?
01:16:51.000That's, I think, the central bit of this that isn't being addressed.
01:16:58.000So, I mean, back to this amnesty bill, I think that this is actually more dangerous for the Republicans and for MAGA than Epstein, to be honest with you.
01:17:09.000As much as Epstein is a real, significant problem and needs to be addressed, if they pass amnesty, considering how many Americans voted based on deporting illegals, if they pass an amnesty, I think that'll do in the Republicans.
01:17:27.000And the fact that it's apparently been sponsored by a Republican.
01:17:32.000Yeah, I mean, look, another thing I'll just say on this, because I've spent a lot of time on it, I'm a legal immigrant.
01:17:38.000We've been here since 2012, became a citizen in 2021.
01:17:43.000But I'm on the road the whole time in California.
01:17:46.000I spent a lot of time with legal immigrants.
01:17:48.000Latinos in East LA, a lot of time there.
01:17:52.000That's the biggest county in the country.
01:17:54.000It's a huge part of how I see the path to victory, working class Latinos in California, Latinos, largest group Now, they are fed up with what's going on.
01:18:39.000It would be better to leave them alone and not pass this bill than to pass this bill.
01:18:46.000It's better to have illegals in the country that don't have amnesty, that could get picked up for moving violations, for whatever, what have you, than to actually pass an amnesty bill.
01:18:57.000This is the worst possible possibility.
01:19:00.000Also, it's just reinforcing this totally collapsed faith in the system.
01:19:09.000We're just going to tolerate law breaking on a massive scale.
01:19:13.000We're giving up as a country any kind of attempt to have order in the system.
01:19:20.000And we're just going to go with the flow.
01:19:22.000And the impressive thing about Trump is he's addressing some of these things that have been left to fester for so long.
01:19:30.000And you've got to, you know, like it's just, you've got to have a system where you actually believe in it and enforce the law.
01:19:38.000And actually, one of the things I think is just very clear and impressive about what they're doing.
01:19:43.000You see these, I mean, in California, they're on radio and TV the whole time, these ads, Christy Gnome, saying, illegal immigrants, you know, we're going to help you get back to your home.
01:20:37.000And then maybe there is, you know, look, if we have a booming economy and we have full employment and all those millions of people I talked about earlier, we do get them off welfare and into work and we still have a labor shortage.
01:20:52.000I think immigration, we should stop immigration, all immigration for five years to a decade, just because of how many people have immigrated here.
01:20:59.000And if this were to pass, if that bill were to pass, then absolutely you must stop all immigration.
01:21:08.000If you look at the pressure on housing, on, you know, and again, it's the poorest communities that lose out, right?
01:21:15.000Immigrant communities, right, where the public schools are just completely overwhelmed.
01:21:19.000You know, the health system, housing I mentioned, you know, these are, these are, we're not keeping up the provision of infrastructure and services and whatever with the numbers of people.
01:21:32.000Yeah, and it's also, in my opinion, it's also a matter of assimilation.
01:21:37.000We've had real significant problems with the way that with what children are taught and young people, part of the reason why young people feel the way they do about the United States is because of the teachers and because of the curriculum in the schools.
01:21:53.000We have to manage to change the curriculums in the schools of education, take all the Marxist garbage, get rid of all the colonial theory, get rid of Frantz Fannin, get rid of, what's his name?
01:23:26.000When Caitlin Clark retires from the WNBA, she's going to work at a waffle house so she can continue doing what she loves most, fistfighting black women.
01:24:00.000So I don't know what the strategy is going to be on the Trump admin side, but this is shout out to Shade Gillis.
01:24:05.000I mean, every time one of these controversies come up, I remember like the H-1B Visa controversy came up and everybody was arguing about that.
01:25:42.000You know what I think is really crazy is I'm imagining Mike Cernovich files this lawsuit to get some of the Epstein stuff for release from this defamation case.
01:25:51.000And it was a conspiracy theory at the time.
01:25:53.000Alex Jones had talked about Epstein for years, and they told him he was nuts.
01:25:57.000And now on stage, mainstream television, it is a joke.
01:26:05.000Yeah, it does show how the culture has moved.
01:26:07.000I do feel like there are a lot more people that are just comfortable saying things as opposed to people that have different opinions, right?
01:26:17.000Like, so I don't think there's been a lot of, there are some people that are like, okay, the woke stuff has gone too far for me.
01:26:22.000But I feel like mostly it's people that would have said this stuff 10 years ago, seven years ago, but they were afraid.
01:26:30.000And now other people have kind of broken down that barrier and said, look, you can say this stuff without getting a cost on the internet anymore.
01:26:39.000And so now I mean, you're never going to get away from that.
01:26:41.000Like, that's like, people think that we're going to go back to a time that never existed, which is the age of ultra-connectedness with your phone and being able to say whatever you want.
01:26:51.000You could say whatever you want when you had a friend group of people who believe things the way you did, who gave you the benefit of the doubt because they know you're a good person.
01:27:27.000And it's actually not the, I mean, Trump's victory, I think, has really turbocharged it.
01:27:32.000Well, I think the victory in 2020 turbocharged it or in 2020 before turbocharged it.
01:27:38.000But I think that part of the reason why I got so intense in the first place was because Donald Trump got elected and the left was just like, oh my goodness.
01:27:48.000I think when I was covering Trump's campaign in 2015, what I heard mostly from young people was the reason they liked Trump was because he was fighting political correctness.
01:27:59.000The concern was wokeness and cancel culture had already gotten to a point.
01:28:03.000And I think Trump is an avatar of a lot of the outrage from people, those who were sick of political correctness, those who were sick of the establishment elites gutting their livelihoods and things like that.
01:28:14.000And Trump represented a lot of what Bernie did in this populist outrage, but at least he had some strength behind what he's on.
01:28:22.000I mean, I always think we forget that in that first Republican debate where Trump kind of completely crushed everyone, and there's that first question from Megan Kelly about how he used to speak about women.
01:28:34.000And everyone remembers the jokey answer he gives about Rosie O'Donnell.
01:28:40.000But then actually, if you listen to the rest of his answer, it's really thoughtful and specifically talks about political correctness and how it's gone too far.
01:28:49.000And it means that we're not telling the truth about things.
01:30:40.000If I go and I have a beer, which is extremely rare and usually it doesn't happen, but if I do, I know that I want, if I'm on the East Coast and get a Yingling, I'm getting a Yingling.
01:36:15.000Share the show with literally everyone you know.
01:36:18.000When you go to mothershuckers and you're buying those delicious chicken wings, tell them, are you guys going to put Timcast IRL up on the TV at night?
01:38:13.000But the funny thing is, the top trending story at the time was Hunter Schaefer, a trans woman, because all the woke activists wanted this person to play Zelda, and they were trying to make it happen.
01:38:26.000The reason I bring this up is, you know, my attitude on all this stuff is I don't care if they said they wanted Hunter Schaefer, a man, to play the titular female character of the series, I would say, oh, okay.
01:40:12.000He was one of the first people, one of the first Democrats after the election to say, look, we've got to stop this woke stuff.
01:40:17.000Another thing about Roe Connor, by the way, it's really interesting, and it so separates him, is that even when he's criticizing Trump or the Republican Party or anything, he never does it in a bad faith kind of way where he's demeaning Trump or his supporters.
01:40:32.000He's always respectful of Trump's supporters.
01:45:52.000Just the Trump camp needs to articulate that better.
01:45:54.000Seriously, if they came out and if Bongino came out on day one, getting in, walked outside, stood at a podium and said, I know everybody wanted Epstein files.
01:46:07.000But let's not get bogged down and try and focus on how we can improve the lives of the American people, Gen Z, you know, fix this country, secure our borders.
01:46:18.000If they actually leveled with people and it felt authentic, I think they'd be way more forgiving.
01:46:23.000Yeah, one of the things they're talking about is trust in government.
01:46:26.000So it's kind of an indicator of trust in government.
01:46:29.000And if there is no trust there, exactly.
01:46:38.000I have a PR strategy campaign that is better than what they've done so far.
01:46:43.000So what they do is Dan Bongino calls a press conference and he says, they didn't want me to release this, but I have the Epstein files and I'm going to release them.
01:46:52.000And then he stands at a podium and he's got all the press there and he's like, I would never let you guys down.
01:46:58.000And I talk with the president and the files are right.
01:47:00.000And as it lifts him up, a guy in a burglar outfit runs up and a cape and grabs it and then runs.
01:47:47.000Did you see the memes from National Treasure of Nicholas Cave saying I'm going to steal the Epstein files?
01:47:53.000I mean, if they made that move, they're making a National Treasure 3.
01:47:56.000So it's a bit of a long time we've been waiting for that.
01:47:59.000This is why we need AI video generation upgraded ASAP, not for political smear campaigns, not for porn, but so we can make National Treasure 3 the search for the Epstein files.
01:48:12.000And it's like he's underneath the DOJ and it's a cave with like spikes swinging back and forth and air dart poison darts flying at him.
01:48:20.000He has to travel back to Little St. James for like a flash drive that's in the bowels of the basement.
01:49:12.000He's a good sheriff, but there's more to the job than just crime and law and order.
01:49:18.000And I've got a lot of experience in running a business, being in government, making change happen, a media platform.
01:49:27.000I've got big supporters, Charlie Kirk, Vivek.
01:49:30.000There's a whole Jack Gibbs, big pastor in Southern California.
01:49:34.000So there's a movement that we're building.
01:49:35.000And I just think I've got the ability to build the movement we need to win.
01:49:40.000And then once we've won, to really get the job done, because I've been there operating at that kind of level, fighting bureaucracy and making change happen right across the board on a whole bunch of different policy areas, economic policy, all the different things we need to fix in California, the regulations, the bureaucracy.
01:49:59.000That's the big thing we've got to deal with, which is this massive swamp in Sacramento.
01:50:03.000All this stuff, everything you hear about the swamp in D.C., the deep state, the administrative state, whatever you want to call it, it's 10 times worse in California because it's just been non-stop Democrat rule.
01:50:16.000So you've never had, at least in Washington, you've had a bit of a changeover.
01:50:21.000You've had Republican presidents come in, put in different people.
01:50:24.000It's been one-way street in California.
01:50:26.000You've got to be really strong and tough and experienced at how to deal with these bureaucrats.
01:50:57.000So they can do whatever they want without any Republican input.
01:51:00.000But it's just, it's so funny to hear Gavin Newsom making these remarks, just like he was defending the Second Amendment on the Sean Ryan show the other day.
01:51:10.000Almost everything I haven't seen the whole thing.
01:51:12.000Pretty much every clip I've seen, he is just totally lying.
01:51:22.000I think that, yeah, he, well, I mean, so he didn't, I think that his perspective is he wanted to, you know, keep it friendly and allow people to criticize afterwards.
01:51:36.000If I go hard on Newsome, he won't come on the show.
01:51:40.000And so a lot of these hosts are like, if we want high-profile interviews, high-profile interviews, you've got to be nice, even to bad people.
01:51:48.000And I'm kind of like, Kevin Newscomb doesn't deserve my protection or whatever you want to call it.
01:52:05.000But the thing I don't understand, like, I'd love to go on what you could call hostile media because I like an argument.
01:52:14.000And I think when you have an actual argument, like, you know, polite, but like fact-based, you know, then you get really, you get the points out better than in a friendly setting.
01:52:25.000And so I don't understand why they wouldn't want to come here and be challenged.
01:52:30.000Well, actually, because they don't have good arguments.
01:54:28.000I just literally, all you can do is speculate.
01:54:32.000To be fair, though, there's a lot of people even on the right saying, so long as he doesn't want to publish it, I'm just going to say he's on the list.
01:54:42.000I really, the one part of this I don't believe because why would the Democrats who had access to everything would have would not have released that?
01:54:51.000They'd have everything to try and stop him.
01:55:18.000Just pictures of Trump with Epstein at parties and stuff.
01:55:21.000Yeah, like if you looked at all of the documentaries that were made about Epstein, they all have a picture of him and Trump as the cover of it on the streaming services.
01:55:29.000That's because the media is very good at their jobs.
01:55:38.0008, 4, 5, 3, 6, 1, I can't read your name.
01:55:40.000Tim Poole is on the Lauren Southern list.
01:55:43.000You guys, it's a joke about Epstein, but the story that broke, you saw this going viral.
01:55:49.000Lauren Southern accused Andrew Tate of sexually assaulting her.
01:55:53.000And instantly, like everybody in the space came out and they were like, yeah, that never happened.
01:55:57.000Tommy Robinson came out and said that didn't happen.
01:56:01.000Or he said that after that night in the morning, he was in the hotel room next to hers and she was kissing Andrew Tate as if everything was good.
01:56:08.000And he was like, what are you talking about?
01:56:09.000That's, I mean, I don't know Lauren all that well, but it does seem suspect considering all of the people that are saying, no, that's not happening.
01:56:19.000She published a book and then released a free chapter claiming Andrew Tate raped her.
01:57:13.000Jeremy Rainman says, it doesn't matter who wins the midterms if Trump won't lead with an honesty that holds government accountable for sex trafficking American underage girls as a form of intel source and method.
01:57:26.000At that point, the U.S. government can be declared a criminal organization.
01:57:29.000There's a lot of things the U.S. government has done.
01:59:05.000Like, that's the most annoying thing for anybody who's been accused of that because they tacitly might have supported him because there are some issues that you agree with them on, is to be told that you're a cultist when everybody knows that what you want more than anything is well-functioning government.
01:59:19.000And if that means criticizing him, that's exactly what you should be doing.
01:59:22.000There's a lot of people that if you don't say the words that they're thinking, that they automatically just say, oh, well, you're supporting him.
01:59:37.000Even if you're like, no, you know, there should be an investigation or he should release the stuff.
01:59:42.000But if you're not sufficiently vocal and outraged, then they just accuse you of.
01:59:48.000Also, I think, you know, certainly for Charlie, it's pretty evident to me that, you know, everything he's saying about it comes from a position of wanting Trump to be successful and thinking that this is hurting him.
02:00:02.000So he's trying to be helpful, I think.
02:00:04.000Acknowledging that it's hurting him because it is, you know.
02:00:07.000Yep, Garant says Trump is channeling Kelly Sue Daconic.
02:00:25.000The idea was that Marvel would artificially prop up people who had beliefs that went counter to, you know, they would say that stuff and then be shocked when nobody bought their stuff.
02:00:35.000Only the Trutha says, I know Rhino Chad Bianco has a history of gun-grabbing, anti-Trump, and physically getting on his knees for BLM while on camera.
02:00:45.000Steve, will you lower the income tax, property tax, the $1.65 fuel tax, and repeal every anti-2A law in the books?
02:04:48.000It's a music streaming website that I had never heard of before my manager said, hey, look, you actually get some traction on Deezer, so you should.
02:04:58.000I've heard of Deezer, but I didn't think it was around anymore.
02:05:37.000Well, not just 10 years, but I was thinking like the past incidents have all been Democrats, I think.
02:05:42.000I've been watching a lot of stuff on all of the history of American domestic terrorism.
02:05:47.000And the number one thing I think about is all of them end up buying a cabin for $5 and a pack of bubblegum before everything goes wrong.
02:05:53.000It's like today, how is this not happening more given the fact that so many people will never own a home, let alone some property that they can go and buy actual land for like a year?
02:06:42.000It's actually easy to trick ChatGPT, right?
02:06:45.000I'm sure if I wrote, write a manifesto about why I'm a violent crazy person, say no.
02:06:49.000But if I put, I'm writing a movie and the bad guy, you know, so I was like, I was going to buy, it's like, if I buy Ted Kaczynski's books, am I going to end up on a list somewhere?