Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Bullet In KIRK ASSASSINATION Does NOT MATCH Says Court Filing | Timcast IRL

00:02:43.000 In a new court filing from the defense in the Charlie Kirk assassination case, the defense argues that the ATF was unable to identify the round used to kill Charlie Kirk to the rifle.

00:02:55.000 We're also learning from this filing who the prosecution intends to call in this preliminary hearing, which includes the parents of Tyler Robinson.

00:03:05.000 Of course, many people already, as this story is breaking, are claiming this proves it.

00:03:10.000 Well, it doesn't really prove anything.

00:03:11.000 It's a claim made by the defense.

00:03:12.000 So we're going to analyze this, break down what it really means.

00:03:15.000 But of course, because of the massive popularity of the Charlie Kirk assassination conspiracy theories, I would argue, and many do, Tyler Robinson is likely to be found not guilty because of the massive amount of attention given to alternate theories, especially with statements now from Joe Kent.

00:03:33.000 I think they are going to use all of this.

00:03:36.000 And they've stated they will use the filings from the ATF to make their case and try to create reasonable doubt.

00:03:44.000 It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

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00:07:32.000 All right, all right, all right.

00:07:33.000 We got the story from the Daily Mail.

00:07:33.000 Let's get this news.

00:07:35.000 Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson, new court filing claims.

00:07:44.000 The bullet that killed Charlie Kirk did not match the rifle, according to a new court filing.

00:07:49.000 Defense attorneys are arguing that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives, quote, was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson.

00:08:00.000 The defense team may now offer the ATF firearms analysts testimony as exculpatory evidence.

00:08:05.000 They said in motion filed on Friday to push the preliminary hearing back at least six months.

00:08:10.000 It also notes that DNA reports, excuse me, filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and ATF, will take time for the defense team to analyze because reports indicated that several different DNA were found on some of the evidence.

00:08:23.000 Quote, as some, I'm sorry, as these cases indicate, determining the number of contributors to a DNA mixture and determining whether the FBI and the ATF reliably applied validated and correct scientific procedures is a complicated process, which requires the assistance of various types of experts, including forensic biologists, geneticists, system engineers, and statisticians, all of whom must review and evaluate several different categories.

00:08:46.000 Robinson's attorneys added that they have received about 20,000 electronic audio files, videos, and written documents that prosecutors have presented as evidence in the case.

00:08:55.000 So right away, my friends, I'm going to go ahead and ask, is it normal, and it might be, for the suspected assassin of a prominent public figure to have the masses submitting evidence to assist the alleged assassin?

00:09:12.000 I don't think that it's generally normal.

00:09:14.000 There are times where, you know, like people that are murderers have, especially like if there's a male murderer that women, like for some reason, decide they want to throw themselves at him.

00:09:24.000 But I've never heard a situation where there are people actually submitting evidence to help someone who is accused of murder in this type of fashion.

00:09:33.000 I'm sure that there's been some, but this kind of magnitude, I don't think that I've ever heard of it in my lifetime.

00:09:38.000 So I'm just pointing out that with the massive amount of attention brought to the Charlie Kirk case and doubt sewn about, that's what I was trying to say, from the prominent podcasters, namely, of course, Candace Owens, there is a massive audience that believes this man is innocent.

00:09:59.000 So of course, they would submit what they view as evidence to assist the defense in this matter.

00:10:04.000 I believe the popularity of these conspiracy theories is going to create so much doubt in the public.

00:10:10.000 That alone is enough to get Tyler Robinson acquitted.

00:10:13.000 But you add on top this statement that they were unable to identify the bullet to the gun.

00:10:18.000 Now, that may be typical, but you combine that with the public evidence, like the story and the narration and the perspective, you are easily going to get jurors who are like, reasonable doubt.

00:10:29.000 Look how this is, and this story will sow reasonable doubt.

00:10:33.000 It says that the bullet did not match the alleged rifle.

00:10:37.000 Now, they didn't test it, so they couldn't match it.

00:10:40.000 It wasn't like they tested it and it was the wrong bullet.

00:10:43.000 That's a different form.

00:10:45.000 Yeah, they said that they were unable to identify the bullet in general.

00:10:45.000 What do you mean they didn't test it?

00:10:48.000 So that is...

00:10:50.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:10:51.000 Identify the bullet to the rifle.

00:10:53.000 Right.

00:10:54.000 Right.

00:10:54.000 That's different than saying it's definitely not the rifle.

00:10:57.000 They didn't rule out the rifle.

00:10:58.000 They just saying we haven't been able to identify it yet, guys.

00:11:01.000 Well, they didn't say yet either.

00:11:02.000 The court filing just says, unable to identify it to the bullet.

00:11:02.000 Yeah, but they didn't.

00:11:05.000 So we need to see exactly what the ATF said in this regard, but let's not add words to what the claim is.

00:11:09.000 I just, I don't want them to make it seem like they tested the bullet and it's not the right bullet to the gun.

00:11:13.000 So it was the wrong gun there for Tyler Robinson.

00:11:16.000 Well, what does unable mean?

00:11:17.000 Does it mean that they were constrained by bureaucracy, so they did not do it?

00:11:20.000 Or does it mean they tried and failed?

00:11:21.000 I don't know.

00:11:22.000 So if they tried and failed, that's huge, and it's going to present reasonable doubt.

00:11:25.000 Yeah, I read a little bit down in the story.

00:11:27.000 I think that they said they really couldn't.

00:11:29.000 Were they even able to recover the bullet?

00:11:30.000 Well, I think one of the bigger problems you have to worry about, too, is whether he's proved right or wrong.

00:11:35.000 You're going to have a mistrial of some sort with all of that going into it.

00:11:39.000 How are you going to get a jury that's even fair?

00:11:41.000 I mean, you're going to have to be a problem.

00:11:42.000 You're going to hope that the jury is actually sequestered and that they don't get any of this information, all like all of the stuff.

00:11:49.000 Well, yeah.

00:11:49.000 There's no jury yet.

00:11:50.000 By the time this goes to a trial, I don't see how they're going to find any human being who honestly is going to say, I have no idea about this.

00:11:58.000 And then what I fear is that you're going to get people who are going to be motivated by ideology who will lie in court and say, I'm totally unfamiliar.

00:12:05.000 And then as soon as they get in, they'll be playing Candace or whoever else and they'll be saying, like, I'm going to vote not guilty no matter what.

00:12:12.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it still is a narrow segment of the population that pays very close attention to this stuff, but it is also worth, you know, considering the fact that this is such a high-profile thing and there's so many people that are on, you know, on X or that, you know, I'm sure this stuff goes on Facebook.

00:12:29.000 I don't have a Facebook account, but I'm sure that this stuff is happening on Facebook.

00:12:32.000 These discussions are happening.

00:12:33.000 So just to come up with an actual, you know, a jury that's not been tainted already, I don't know that they're going to be able to do that.

00:12:42.000 And that's terrible because I tend to agree with you, Tim.

00:12:45.000 I think that the guy's going to walk because they can't actually get a non-biased jury.

00:12:52.000 The internet has changed the way our legal system, our courts work in such a drastic way.

00:12:57.000 Well, even the question I would have, they're saying 20,000 pieces of evidence, but at the same time, are they also just pulling social posts too?

00:13:03.000 Because like you said, people may have submitted things, but I'm sure it's a lot of its social posts they're pulling too.

00:13:08.000 Yeah.

00:13:09.000 Because those things are getting insane reach right now, especially on X.

00:13:11.000 This is good for their defense of the defense because at the very least, they're going to string it out.

00:13:15.000 I think they said they're going to string it out another six months as they tend to do.

00:13:18.000 And let's just longer detain a jury then.

00:13:20.000 Longer to take longer to get the jury, which means more people are going to be tainted ahead of time.

00:13:26.000 And then, I mean, as far as this defense guy, he's probably like, let's just make this case go 10 years and make sure Tyler can rest comfortably in a jail and not have to organize.

00:13:34.000 Also, one of the reports, Fox News, we have here talks about the prosecution's intention.

00:13:40.000 They say the filing made by defense attorneys on Friday states that prosecutors intend to call Robinson's parents and his roommate and romantic partner, Lance Twiggs, testify at the preliminary hearing.

00:13:49.000 Robinson's defense team is also asking the judge for a minimum of a six-month delay for the preliminary hearing, which is currently scheduled for May 18th.

00:13:58.000 In the filing, they said that they did not, they were not given adequate time to analyze much of the forensic evidence that is going to be presented by the prosecution.

00:14:08.000 Again, whatever your thoughts are on this, it is massively lined up for an acquittal for whatever reason that may be.

00:14:17.000 Well, the bigger question I would have as well is the concern I've had, I believe he's the guy that pulled the trigger, but I do think there's more associated with him.

00:14:26.000 And if he gets acquitted, we don't find out about that.

00:14:28.000 That would be the thing I'd be concerned about.

00:14:30.000 More associated with him?

00:14:31.000 Well, there's maybe there's an Antifa group or other groups.

00:14:34.000 I think there's more people involved and they're covering it up.

00:14:36.000 And at the same time, you have YouTube and other places aren't censoring a lot of these things.

00:14:40.000 They're allowing them to happen.

00:14:41.000 So you have to wonder, it's the same way with DAs being funded and things like this.

00:14:45.000 Is it also a one-hand washes the other type of thing?

00:14:48.000 What do you mean?

00:14:49.000 Like, how does that work?

00:14:50.000 So if they're allowing this stuff to come through, right?

00:14:53.000 How doubt?

00:14:54.000 You mean doubt?

00:14:55.000 If they're allowing doubt to happen and YouTube's also allowing it visibility, well, they'll crush other things.

00:15:00.000 Yeah.

00:15:01.000 Does it help whatever cause they're trying to also push forward by not allowing some larger group to get discovered?

00:15:06.000 Yeah, YouTube has explicit rules against conspiracy theories, like explicitly phrased conspiracy theories, things that go, you know, they only allow authoritative news sources when you search.

00:15:17.000 But when it comes to this story, this one's a special, special example that they'll allow anybody to just say whatever they want.

00:15:26.000 And it's kind of nuts.

00:15:27.000 The amount of content accusing Erica Kirk of being some freaky demon, monster, robot, reptile, whatever it may be is weird.

00:15:35.000 I have met that woman several times.

00:15:36.000 She's been here, like completely normal and unassuming.

00:15:40.000 No horns, no scale, no?

00:15:42.000 It was funny because, I mean, you know, just to kind of be a little candid here, when we went to Turning Point after Charlie was assassinated, you know, Jack was like, we're setting up the show and he was like, hey, Erica, do you want to, you want to, I don't know if you want to meet up with her and just say hi or anything.

00:15:56.000 And I was like, yeah, sure.

00:15:57.000 And then, you know, we walked over and then she was playing with the kids.

00:16:00.000 And then she came over and she's like, hey, Tim.

00:16:02.000 And he goes, we've met before.

00:16:02.000 And I was like, hey, nice to meet you.

00:16:04.000 And I was like, oh, oops.

00:16:05.000 She's like, I've been to your house.

00:16:06.000 And I was like.

00:16:07.000 Sure.

00:16:09.000 Okay.

00:16:10.000 I meet so many people.

00:16:11.000 And then she's like, it's fine.

00:16:12.000 And I'm like, totally normal.

00:16:14.000 It's the weirdest thing how they make these videos that are edited to slow down certain points to then zoom in on her face.

00:16:20.000 And then they just tell you she's doing something wrong when she's literally just kind of normal and boring.

00:16:25.000 It's the weirdest thing ever.

00:16:27.000 They accuse her of being a robot. 0.55

00:16:28.000 Man, if she hadn't taken that role of CEO of Turning Point, I don't think this would be happening to her.

00:16:33.000 I disagree.

00:16:34.000 You think she'd... 0.95

00:16:34.000 Do you think so? 0.95

00:16:35.000 Yep.

00:16:36.000 Yep.

00:16:36.000 Really?

00:16:37.000 I think that's just she's, she's, she's, the issue with Erica in this story is that she did PR. 0.99

00:16:45.000 She spoke at Charlie's Memorial.

00:16:47.000 That was it.

00:16:48.000 She had to.

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:49.000 She appeared in interviews talking about how she felt.

00:16:51.000 They did not like the way she acted. 0.53

00:16:54.000 Like, that's the craziest thing to me.

00:16:57.000 I do PR for a living.

00:16:58.000 You have to fill the vacuum.

00:16:59.000 You can't just let nothing happen.

00:17:00.000 Well, I mean, I suppose the question I have for you then, as someone who does PR, would you advise Erica to cry on TV and like really be emotional?

00:17:12.000 Or would you ask, would you, would you tell her to be composed and to deliver a message?

00:17:16.000 Like, how would you advise?

00:17:17.000 I would say it's more about being composed because at the same time, if she cries, then people are going to say that's a put-on, right?

00:17:22.000 So you have to at the same time be who you are at all times.

00:17:25.000 And I think in a situation like that, especially after somebody passes under those conditions, people want to feel safe and they want to feel like the organization is strong, not like it's something that's not going to last.

00:17:35.000 You have to inspire confidence.

00:17:36.000 She cry, they accused her of putting faith.

00:17:38.000 Yeah, she's going to say, like, when she doesn't cry, they're saying, oh, this is totally weird for someone to grieve this way.

00:17:45.000 Look at she's hugging her friends.

00:17:46.000 She's laughing.

00:17:47.000 She's not grieving.

00:17:48.000 Oh, you know, she was definitely involved in the murder. 1.00

00:17:52.000 And then when she does cry, they're like, oh, you know, she's just putting it on.

00:17:54.000 Those are crocodile tears.

00:17:56.000 People are motivated to disbelieve because, and I personally think this is, this has a lot to do with COVID.

00:18:01.000 There are so many people that got duped by the narrative with COVID.

00:18:05.000 And they're just essentially like, I don't trust anything the government says.

00:18:09.000 If it comes out from an official source, then you have to disregard it all the time.

00:18:14.000 You can't believe it.

00:18:15.000 And it's more likely that if it comes from the government, it's probably got a kernel of truth or some truth.

00:18:21.000 And there are things that the government doesn't want to give out to the public and stuff like that.

00:18:26.000 But I don't, the idea that if it comes from the government, you have to disregard it.

00:18:30.000 I think that motivates a lot of people.

00:18:32.000 I think people also don't understand grief either.

00:18:35.000 My mom had a stroke in 2013 and she's still able to barely walk.

00:18:39.000 She doesn't have a lot of her language skills. 0.58

00:18:41.000 And first thing I did was start packing for the hospital.

00:18:43.000 I started called my boss and told her I wasn't going to be at work, like all of those things.

00:18:47.000 It took three years to hit me.

00:18:48.000 And I think people don't understand how grief actually works and how people respond to it.

00:18:54.000 I also don't understand what people expect.

00:18:56.000 They expect her to appear every day, every time, just to be crying nonstop 24-7. 0.94

00:19:00.000 Like at a certain point, you have to live.

00:19:02.000 Her kids and her were in the office.

00:19:04.000 Her kids were playing.

00:19:05.000 Those kids just lost their dad.

00:19:06.000 What do you think the kids are going to do?

00:19:07.000 They're going to just do their childly things. 0.96

00:19:11.000 And then what are you supposed to do?

00:19:12.000 Just cry nonstop and just not do anything?

00:19:14.000 Yeah, the kids.

00:19:15.000 It was weeks after this.

00:19:16.000 They were accusing her of doing wrong by doing interviews.

00:19:18.000 And they were claiming that her face didn't look right.

00:19:20.000 It's like, guys.

00:19:21.000 She's in a, their daughter, their oldest daughter, Gigi, was at Turning Point.

00:19:25.000 I met Erica and Gigi there.

00:19:27.000 And like, Gigi, I'm just going to, I'm talking kind of outside.

00:19:31.000 I don't know what's going on in her brain, but I don't think she quite understood.

00:19:34.000 Children don't. 0.99

00:19:35.000 Yeah.

00:19:35.000 And so Erica's in a position where she has to walk that line with Gigi and with the organization and with the government who's probably getting her on testimony and stuff.

00:19:46.000 It's like, and it's just, oh, God.

00:19:49.000 I don't know, man.

00:19:50.000 We got this guy in custody who's very much likely the shooter of that rifle.

00:19:50.000 We got a guy.

00:19:55.000 His dad's going to testify against him.

00:19:57.000 I think they're going to, they're going to, well, he's going to testify.

00:19:59.000 And we'll see.

00:20:00.000 He said it turned him in, so we'll see.

00:20:00.000 We don't know what else.

00:20:02.000 I really do not believe there will be a scenario.

00:20:05.000 I mean, guys, they're going to call the father to testify.

00:20:08.000 They're going to ask him and he's going to say exactly what we already know.

00:20:11.000 Like the reality where the dad comes and goes, I never turned my son in is just zero.

00:20:16.000 Hey, turned him in.

00:20:17.000 His kid had his rifle.

00:20:18.000 I think is it Garrett?

00:20:20.000 I don't know if that's the rifle that was his.

00:20:21.000 He was his grandfather.

00:20:22.000 His grandfather's father.

00:20:23.000 I suppose then one could argue the whole family was created by the CIA and it's all one big op and the dad is actually part of it and it's all fake.

00:20:30.000 I think it is a cut and dry.

00:20:31.000 Tyler Robinson will be found.

00:20:32.000 I mean, he's innocent until proven guilty, but with the evidence I've seen.

00:20:35.000 But the thing is, the defense will drag this out as long as they're not.

00:20:37.000 No, I think I think there's a if someone asked me to gamble, I would say that he's going to be found not guilty.

00:20:46.000 Really?

00:20:46.000 And I think the reason is that you've got a mass formation psychosis.

00:20:52.000 I am not saying I know that Robinson did it.

00:20:54.000 I am not saying that it's proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:20:57.000 I'm saying that so far in the public, we have seen a preponderance of evidence.

00:21:00.000 The idea that the FBI, the family, the news media are all in on one big massive assassination plan, while these things are possible, it's just substantially less likely.

00:21:12.000 So I would argue that probability dictates this is likely the guy.

00:21:16.000 I do believe that the evidence we've seen in the public also dictates there are others involved and they are covering that up, or at the very least, not trying to investigate.

00:21:25.000 But again, that being said, based on the social media stories, one thing you must understand is that perception is reality.

00:21:33.000 And so long as Candace and others in that space argue that Robinson is innocent and that a foreign nexus did it, you will get people who will be called for jury duty.

00:21:44.000 And we've seen this with the left.

00:21:47.000 They'll either be marched in with people screaming at them.

00:21:50.000 And so they'll just vote however they're told to vote, or they'll march in and say, I have no idea who Candace is, Wink.

00:21:57.000 And then when it comes time to vote, they're going to go, I know he didn't do it.

00:22:00.000 And then they're going to comment on Candace on the channel and be like, I did this for you or some other nonsense.

00:22:05.000 Ideology matters more.

00:22:06.000 Perception matters more than what is presented.

00:22:09.000 If you've already tainted the well and told everybody that this is not a real story, that the evidence is fake, then the prosecution is going to be like, here's the gun.

00:22:18.000 And you're going to be thinking in your mind, that's not real.

00:22:20.000 Doesn't matter what they show you.

00:22:21.000 Maybe it's too little, too late that what I'm about to say about, because I already kind of mentioned that Gigi, you know, their kid, that daughter, Charlie and Erica's daughter, she doesn't know what's going on or didn't seem to, but she can feel what everyone around her is feeling.

00:22:36.000 And that's how she's living right now.

00:22:37.000 So for Erica to intentionally not espouse grief is understandable.

00:22:43.000 She doesn't want to send her child into a desperate depression, confused depression.

00:22:47.000 So she's trying to be normal.

00:22:49.000 That doesn't mean that she did it or was in on it.

00:22:52.000 Like she's trying to protect the kids.

00:22:54.000 I'd like to see this trial public.

00:22:58.000 The defense is also trying to have it not be public.

00:23:01.000 I think it should be public.

00:23:02.000 We should see it.

00:23:03.000 And then I can just say to anybody who thinks it was untoward or a conspiracy, let's just agree to see what the evidence is presented and whether or not it sways our opinions in the matter.

00:23:14.000 Because I would say this, if in court the defense says, and it's on TV, you did not match the bolt to the gun, and the ATF guy goes, we couldn't.

00:23:22.000 And when they say why, they'll be like, it didn't seem to match.

00:23:25.000 Then I'm going to be like, whoa, that's huge.

00:23:28.000 But if unable to just means the bullet was damaged, so it's not possible.

00:23:33.000 Then I go, well, I mean, that's not good, but it doesn't prove anything.

00:23:37.000 So it really just depends on what this means and what they present in court.

00:23:37.000 Yeah.

00:23:41.000 So I want to see that the public.

00:23:43.000 No, we have to.

00:23:45.000 I think the bigger part of it, too, is people have been through in the last couple of years, especially post-pandemic, is they've seen they've been messed with in so many different ways.

00:23:53.000 They don't want to believe a lot of things.

00:23:54.000 Conspiracies almost become mainstream and people don't want to believe things.

00:23:57.000 And that's actually a very dangerous position to be in.

00:24:00.000 I look at history.

00:24:01.000 It's one of the main things I look at.

00:24:03.000 And there's enough strange things that happen in history that are true that you don't need to really kind of go down a lot of these rabbit holes.

00:24:12.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:24:14.000 We got a big one from ESPN.

00:24:15.000 Bulls wave guard Jaden Ivey after anti-gay comments. 0.98

00:24:20.000 Heavens me, anti-gay. 1.00

00:24:22.000 What could he have possibly said? 0.89

00:24:24.000 Let's listen.

00:24:27.000 The world can proclaim LGBTQ. 0.74

00:24:34.000 Right?

00:24:36.000 They proclaim Pride Month and the NBA.

00:24:41.000 They proclaim it.

00:24:44.000 They show it to the world.

00:24:47.000 They say, come join us for Pride.

00:24:51.000 For Pride Month.

00:24:54.000 To celebrate unrighteousness.

00:24:59.000 They proclaim it.

00:25:05.000 They proclaim it on the billboards.

00:25:08.000 They proclaim it in the streets.

00:25:10.000 Unrighteousness.

00:25:15.000 So how is it that one can't speak righteousness?

00:25:18.000 How is it one that, how are they to say that you, man, this man is crazy?

00:25:26.000 I'm not the J I used to be, but the OJ is dead.

00:25:32.000 I'm alive in Christ.

00:25:34.000 You know, no matter what the basketball setting is, you know, I'm born again, the Holy Spirit.

00:25:44.000 And I've been saved by Jesus Christ.

00:25:46.000 There is a massive Christian revival going on, that's for sure.

00:25:49.000 So this dude has the mildest of criticisms.

00:25:52.000 He did not disparage anybody.

00:25:54.000 He didn't use any slurs.

00:25:55.000 And he gets waved because of this.

00:25:58.000 They say the news came after Ivy posted a series of videos ranting about religion.

00:26:02.000 Ranting?

00:26:03.000 Really?

00:26:04.000 That was like one of the most measured statements I've ever heard.

00:26:06.000 Honestly, if I saw a video from a communist who calmly was just like, I have deep concerns about how capitalist structures will accommodate people when AI and industrialization takes place.

00:26:18.000 And that's why I believe, I wouldn't call that ranting.

00:26:20.000 I would be like, well, that's an argument.

00:26:21.000 This is a guy who's expressing his views on Christianity and pride.

00:26:24.000 And this is what waiving is they fired him, right?

00:26:28.000 Yeah, well, they waived and they say that I don't think they fired him.

00:26:30.000 They just benched him, I thought.

00:26:32.000 Well, waives a release.

00:26:32.000 That's what it means.

00:26:34.000 Yeah.

00:26:34.000 Put somebody on waivers.

00:26:35.000 They have a certain amount of days where another team can claim him or whatever it might be.

00:26:39.000 If not, he's a free agent.

00:26:41.000 Is there a team that's going to be like, yo, that's fine?

00:26:43.000 Can we bro?

00:26:46.000 Woke is going to come back.

00:26:48.000 Yes.

00:26:49.000 My theory is we've largely routed woke.

00:26:53.000 And the Bud Light, the target stuff has proven how ineffective, but not only that, how damaging it is to the Democrats' brand.

00:27:01.000 So they've gone underground like Gollum in Lord of the Rings, you know, all just nasty and disheveled.

00:27:08.000 But they're not gone.

00:27:11.000 You don't just like ideas don't just stop being.

00:27:14.000 The people who hold these ideas don't just give up on them.

00:27:16.000 So right now, the play is going to be win back the White House, the House, and then they're slowly going to bring all of this woke stuff back.

00:27:22.000 To be honest, they still defend DEI.

00:27:25.000 They're just keeping it quiet because they know it's going to cost them an election.

00:27:27.000 They want to win the power first.

00:27:29.000 This proves it.

00:27:30.000 See, they're keeping it quiet, but when this dude steps over the line, you see how they go, I mean, look at what happened in Virginia, right?

00:27:36.000 Spanberger just basically she was running as I'm a very centrist Democrat, I'm middle of the road, et cetera, et cetera.

00:27:44.000 And as soon as she gets into office, all of the left-wing policies that the far left-wing policies all come flooding in and she's signing bills that are passed by the Democrat House or by the Democrat legislature. 0.97

00:27:57.000 Have you guys seen the population map for West Virginia?

00:28:01.000 No.

00:28:02.000 Oh, this country is good.

00:28:03.000 We had a similar problem with Mikey Sherrill in New Jersey, where I live.

00:28:07.000 And Brianna's very centrist, very moderate.

00:28:10.000 And one of the things she wants to do now is we homeschool. 0.99

00:28:13.000 She wants to do psych evaluations for homeschooled children. 0.73

00:28:16.000 So it's like it's getting kind of crazy.

00:28:19.000 They use one side to get you.

00:28:21.000 And once they have it, they show the true face.

00:28:23.000 Absolutely.

00:28:24.000 I mean, look, the left doesn't think that you should be allowed to homeschool your kids, right?

00:28:28.000 They think that your children are their property.

00:28:32.000 And I mean, I've got a, you know, I've got a five-month-old, and I have absolutely no intention of sending him to state schools at all, period.

00:28:40.000 That's just not happening.

00:28:41.000 I'm not giving my kid to a public school so they can indoctrinate him and try to make him into what they consider to be a good citizen.

00:28:50.000 That ain't happening.

00:28:51.000 The left is going to do everything they can to either limit your ability to educate your kids at home or to downright take away your right to educate your kids at home.

00:29:04.000 And I mean, there's a lot of parents' groups that are very against this.

00:29:08.000 But if you do not, if you're, if, if parents are not vigilant, the left will take that right away from you.

00:29:15.000 And they will say, you have to give your kid up.

00:29:17.000 And they will say, if you don't, and well, they'll say if you don't, then you have a, then this is, then you are doing, you are, you know, we're going to call child protective services because it's not about whether or not you want to give your kid up.

00:29:28.000 It's that you're harming your kid by not giving your child to the state to educate them.

00:29:32.000 Yeah.

00:29:33.000 And that's just, I mean, that's totally unacceptable.

00:29:36.000 So this is West Virginia population growth over the past decade, up to 2021, to be honest.

00:29:42.000 And you can see that the blue areas doesn't mean Democrat.

00:29:45.000 Those are just the areas where the population is growing.

00:29:49.000 And they're also all Democrat areas, and the other parts of the state are just collapsing.

00:29:54.000 West Virginia is the second Trump, most Trump supporting state in the country.

00:29:59.000 And it is massively expanding in areas that are controlled by Democrats.

00:30:04.000 And it's presumed, like where we are right here, it's the Eastern Panhandle, Berkeley and Jefferson County.

00:30:09.000 It's presumed to be that people from Virginia are fleeing these psycho-lefty policies, but the people who are coming here are liberals.

00:30:18.000 They're not sufficiently right-wing. 0.93

00:30:20.000 They are liberals who are going to come here and say, well, look, I mean, Spanberger's crazy.

00:30:25.000 We don't want what she's doing. 0.67

00:30:27.000 But we are voting Democrat.

00:30:29.000 And then they bring their problems with it.

00:30:31.000 You know, I'll quote T'Challa from Black Panther, a great icon of black culture, when he said, you can't let these people in because they'll bring their problems with them. 0.95

00:30:41.000 Well, that's what T'Challa said.

00:30:42.000 I mean, you know, they love Black Panther.

00:30:44.000 So it's true.

00:30:45.000 Well, we have the kind of the opposite problem in New Jersey, where New Jersey and New York is kind of the tri-state area for me.

00:30:51.000 And the pandemic policies were so harsh, people just moved to Florida, which just means for the most part, we've lost all of our red voters.

00:30:58.000 They even redistricted our congressional district, which used to be one of the reddest in the state.

00:31:04.000 And we've had a Josh Gottheimer's been our congressman for, I think, three terms now because we don't have representation, even though it's the reddest area in the state.

00:31:11.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a similar thing happens in, or had been happening in New Hampshire.

00:31:17.000 The Free State Project, the right-wing, right-wingers of the Free State Project are very aggressively anti-left, and they've been doing a lot to scare the, for lack of a better term, scare the left-wingers in New Hampshire.

00:31:34.000 They're very pro-liberty, and they're very much right-wingers.

00:31:39.000 It's not the same kind of libertarian that a lot of people think of when they think of libertarian.

00:31:44.000 It's very, like I said, it's very right-wing libertarian in New Hampshire.

00:31:48.000 And the legislation, the legislature in the state is all Republicans because the free staters have been running as Republicans.

00:31:56.000 New Hampshire was a mistake.

00:31:58.000 It's just because it's the free staters should have moved to a state where they had a statewide stronghold. 0.85

00:32:03.000 Like they moved to a blue state surrounded by blue states and said, everybody move to New Hampshire.

00:32:08.000 We're going to take it over and be free.

00:32:10.000 And it was largely effective, but they're still surrounded by Democrats and in a Democrat split state.

00:32:15.000 So even then, they still lose state power in a lot of regards.

00:32:19.000 If they went to West Virginia, they'd own the whole state.

00:32:21.000 If they went to Wyoming, West Virginia would be centrally located close to D.C. with a mass.

00:32:26.000 You'd actually have a libertarian member of Congress.

00:32:28.000 I'm not sure what their calculation was moving to New Hampshire, but I mean.

00:32:33.000 Some libertarian guy moved there and then said, I wish my friends were here.

00:32:35.000 That's what happened.

00:32:37.000 Because Luke was like, you got to move to New Hampshire, Tim.

00:32:40.000 And then I was like, why?

00:32:41.000 And he's like, it's a free state.

00:32:42.000 And I was like, bro, you are surrounded on all sides by the far left and don't water and then the far left.

00:32:42.000 You know, it's a free state project.

00:32:51.000 And he's like, no, I'm telling you.

00:32:52.000 And then he moved to Florida.

00:32:53.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the biggest reason why I stay in New Hampshire is because of the fact that my family's in Massachusetts and Bain in Massachusetts and it's an hour away from me.

00:33:04.000 Otherwise, you know, I don't see a significant rise in the state.

00:33:08.000 West Virginia is going to turn to a giant data center anyway, so not sure that it matters.

00:33:13.000 The governor keeps announcing all these big data center projects all over the state, which will bring a ton of money into the state, which is good.

00:33:19.000 Considering the state is sparsely populated as it is, that might actually be pretty great.

00:33:25.000 No one really cares.

00:33:27.000 The problem with data centers is they're big eyesores that consume a lot of resources, drive up prices in urban areas.

00:33:34.000 To come to West Virginia, put a data center in the middle of like rural West Virginia where very few people live.

00:33:39.000 Sure, it might be disrupting to the people who live there.

00:33:40.000 So, you know, to them, I sympathize.

00:33:43.000 The big picture for the people of West Virginia is they're going to get billions of dollars in state funding for infrastructure improvements and things like that.

00:33:50.000 And you're largely not going to see the data centers.

00:33:51.000 So even Virginia.

00:33:53.000 The way that it looks now, a lot of the companies that are trying to build data centers are also building, they want to build the power generation along with the data centers.

00:34:03.000 And the argument for that, the pro argument for the people that are, you know, oh, they're going to raise our cost of electricity is going to go up and blah, blah, blah.

00:34:11.000 If these companies do build data centers with a power generation station there, the amount of power that a new data center will take is so, so much more than a city will be.

00:34:24.000 Say, for instance, it's 1,500 megawatts to run the data center.

00:34:28.000 Your average city runs at about 80 megawatts.

00:34:30.000 So you're talking about 5% of the power.

00:34:34.000 So the company that generates the power will likely give the power to the town for dirt, dirt cheap because they're already generating it.

00:34:42.000 And the amount of power that's left over for the needs of the town is basically a rounding error.

00:34:49.000 So I think our power grids are chaic anyway, though. 0.92

00:34:51.000 We lose so much in transmission.

00:34:52.000 I think that's even the bigger problem is people have been made to be scared of nuclear and other sorts of energy generation.

00:34:59.000 But the bigger problem is looking at our grid, how it works, how it transfers power and how it generates power.

00:35:04.000 And these things aren't as big of a problem if we handle that.

00:35:07.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:35:08.000 But it still is better for the companies that actually want to generate the power to build the power plant for its own use because the power is right there.

00:35:19.000 There's no transmission issues.

00:35:20.000 And then again, overproduction or whatever, because they need a specific load for the data center.

00:35:28.000 Whatever's left over going to the town, making the power for the town cost nothing.

00:35:34.000 That will make people far more amicable to the idea of having a data center in that town.

00:35:40.000 Right now, people are really, really against the data centers because they have these ideas that it's going to drive their electricity costs up.

00:35:46.000 But that doesn't do anything positive for the people that want to build the data center, right?

00:35:52.000 Like if they come into town and they piss off the town, like that does nothing good.

00:35:55.000 All it does is make the people that are in town hate the data center.

00:35:59.000 And so they're going to want to be like, hey, how can we make this a positive thing for the town and for us?

00:36:05.000 And if they build a power generation station with the data center and they're just like, look, we'll give you free power, give you power, whatever, a cent for whatever, you know, where you're paying 10 cents or 15 cents now.

00:36:16.000 And they're just like, we'll give it to you basically for free.

00:36:18.000 That'll do a lot to move the needle when it comes to people saying, oh, we don't want a data center here.

00:36:22.000 21st century booms, boom towns.

00:36:25.000 Like we used to have the steel towns, the rubber boom in the 50s and Firestone in Ohio. 0.83

00:36:30.000 That's where I'm from, actually, Akron.

00:36:31.000 You know, the gold rush, where these towns pop up around an AI data center, a big power plant, all jobs, and then a technology will shift and it will require like 10 million times less electricity to run these things.

00:36:42.000 Everybody will move out because they can work locally elsewhere.

00:36:45.000 And then you'll have a lot of eventually you're likely to see data centers in space.

00:36:50.000 Yes, for sure.

00:36:52.000 That is where six, nine months ago, this was a crazy idea.

00:36:57.000 And as soon as Musk started talking about it, what?

00:37:00.000 I predicted it.

00:37:01.000 When?

00:37:01.000 Did you?

00:37:02.000 When I talked about the grandfather with his kid looking up and saying, what are those gigantic black things in the sky moving left and right?

00:37:09.000 And he's going to say, oh, that's the machine.

00:37:11.000 We built it.

00:37:12.000 Didn't I say?

00:37:12.000 Oh, AI.

00:37:13.000 Well, they were for a long time they were like, that's crazy and stuff.

00:37:18.000 But as soon as Musk started seriously working on the infrastructure for it, it became a normal thing now.

00:37:23.000 Let's jump to this story from Axios.

00:37:25.000 Some Democrats' 2028 strategy, a straight white Christian man.

00:37:30.000 It's about time.

00:37:31.000 They are purging the far left.

00:37:34.000 They are dumping money against them.

00:37:35.000 They are trying to moderate.

00:37:37.000 And they outright have said their 2028 candidate needs to be a straight white Christian man.

00:37:43.000 That's why they're promoting James Tellerico in Texas.

00:37:46.000 I believe the play is this: woke is bad for the brand.

00:37:51.000 They know it.

00:37:52.000 They still want it, but you can't sell people something they don't want to eat.

00:37:55.000 You got to steal power, then force it on them.

00:37:58.000 So, likely, what's going to happen is you got Joe Rogan ragging on Trump and MAGA saying there's a lot of MAGA dorks. 0.99

00:38:03.000 Some are genuine patriots, but they got to deal with these dorks.

00:38:06.000 The Trump supporters do not, not all of them, but many of them do not want to hear that Trump is losing support over the Iran war in the Epstein files.

00:38:14.000 But it is true. 0.90

00:38:16.000 Democrats are going to try to capture these guys who are pissed off and moving away from Donald Trump.

00:38:22.000 We got people in our Discord who are saying that they're pissed off over the Iran war.

00:38:22.000 And we talked to him.

00:38:26.000 Democrats are going to try and capture them.

00:38:27.000 Now, I'll say this: I ain't voting for the likes of Adam Schiff, nor am I going to vote in any way to help that guy get power.

00:38:33.000 So I don't know who the Democrats think they're going to run, but if the Democrats do purge a majority of the far left and we start seeing more like Tulsi Gabbard types running, they're moderate, anti-woke Democrats, you will actually start seeing.

00:38:47.000 I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Rogan endorses the Democrat in 2028.

00:38:50.000 I wouldn't be surprised if I do it because this will be surprised by that.

00:38:53.000 The war machine just doesn't have party affiliation.

00:38:55.000 Right now, it's got control of the Republican Party.

00:38:58.000 The liberal economic order, the technocracy has control of the Republican Party.

00:39:02.000 Four years ago, they had control of the Democratic Party instead.

00:39:05.000 So I just want some consciousness.

00:39:10.000 Like, I don't want people naming airports after themselves and putting their signatures on the dollar bills and getting us into wars that they told us they weren't going to get us into.

00:39:18.000 But I've never seen a politician.

00:39:20.000 No, Ian.

00:39:22.000 Like, we've been talking about it for years.

00:39:23.000 We were, you know, I remember in 2024, we were all sitting around this table just talking about how we just needed a president who would start a war with Iran. 0.52

00:39:30.000 You just are misremembering.

00:39:31.000 I think that the voting was new wars.

00:39:33.000 Wasn't that new wars?

00:39:34.000 Yes, new wars.

00:39:34.000 Yes.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, and yes, new wars.

00:39:37.000 Yep.

00:39:37.000 Or he might have been like, no, new wars.

00:39:39.000 I was wearing my MAGA beanie at the time, my bright red Magabini, and I was yes, new wars.

00:39:43.000 That's what people were like, we want world peace.

00:39:45.000 And he was like, no, new wars.

00:39:47.000 And they've misinterpreted him.

00:39:49.000 This has been the strategy for how long?

00:39:51.000 There was that, I'm trying to remember which general that had the Wesley Clark?

00:39:57.000 Wesley Clark, thank you.

00:39:58.000 The Wes Clark 7.

00:39:59.000 Basically, we're going to go through all these seven countries and then we're going to end up in Iran.

00:40:01.000 So it's been, no matter what party is, it's been the policy since 9-11 that they've wanted to get Iran. 0.85

00:40:06.000 So it doesn't matter who it is.

00:40:07.000 The question for you is: how is this not like Rome?

00:40:14.000 That's the hard part.

00:40:15.000 The better question is, does this track alongside anything in Rome?

00:40:18.000 So the three key things I look at are inflation, immigration, meaning poor border control, and then lack of ethics of people in political position.

00:40:27.000 They don't kind of look at the future, they look at what's now.

00:40:29.000 We got all that.

00:40:30.000 We have all three of those things.

00:40:31.000 And that's why when people often ask me, you know, are we a republic anymore?

00:40:34.000 Are we an empire?

00:40:35.000 I really look at not only an empire, but we're an empire that's fading in a lot of ways because we're destroying our money.

00:40:41.000 We don't look at what the real inflationary number is.

00:40:44.000 If you want to look at it from 1790 till now, rather than year over year, it's probably somewhere between 3,000 and 5,000%.

00:40:51.000 And we're not giving people real numbers.

00:40:53.000 But at the same time, our politicians are too concerned about fighting each other.

00:40:57.000 And they're less concerned about who's coming into their country as well.

00:41:00.000 So there's so much.

00:41:04.000 I think Trump's way past of a Brutus.

00:41:06.000 I think because if you look at it, we haven't, and this is one of the things we did the Culture War episode a few years ago.

00:41:11.000 I talked about we haven't functionally been a republic in a very long time.

00:41:14.000 The presidential office has gotten more and more and more power.

00:41:17.000 Well, he just tried paying TSA by decree.

00:41:20.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 And it's funny because this creates a weird conundrum for Democrats where I can't remember which Democrat went on.

00:41:26.000 I think it was like Meet the Press, and he was like, Trump can't do that.

00:41:28.000 It's illegal.

00:41:29.000 And so now they've created this position where they have to argue that Trump can't use executive authority to alleviate a problem everyone's pissed about.

00:41:35.000 Yeah.

00:41:36.000 Really puts them in a difficult position because people are going to go, no, I'm happy Trump is just doing it.

00:41:41.000 But that's people are going to be saying, I'm happy we have a strong executive to just do it.

00:41:45.000 But you look at it, George W. Bush executive order, Barack Obama executive order, Joe Biden executive order, Donald Trump executive order.

00:41:52.000 It's not governing.

00:41:53.000 And what happens is the next president just gets rid of those executive orders to put in his own.

00:41:57.000 It's not policy.

00:41:58.000 It's not structure.

00:41:58.000 It's not law.

00:41:59.000 It's by executive order or by dictate.

00:42:00.000 So do you think Trump should sign an executive order that makes Baron Trump the baron?

00:42:05.000 He just rules overall?

00:42:06.000 It'd be a great idea, but no, on all honesty, I think it gets back to Republicans actually worrying about legislation.

00:42:13.000 And that's not really what we're doing.

00:42:15.000 We're worrying about winning the next midterm or winning the next election.

00:42:18.000 Also, a big factor in this is the cultural fracturing.

00:42:21.000 So we don't have a unified moral system either.

00:42:21.000 Yeah.

00:42:24.000 That's correct.

00:42:25.000 So it doesn't matter what our politicians are doing, to be honest.

00:42:27.000 I was about Caesar.

00:42:28.000 Like, I feel like it was the moral fracturing of the Senate that led towards their fear of Caesar and then their inevitable ultimatum to Caesar of give up your property or and Caesar's like, you leave me no other choice.

00:42:41.000 Now I'm going to invade and take the control.

00:42:43.000 The problem is everybody was doing it.

00:42:45.000 The trope about Roman office was your first year was to get out of your out of debt.

00:42:49.000 Your second year was to build wealth and your third year was to avoid prosecutions.

00:42:52.000 You need at least three years in office.

00:42:54.000 So everyone was doing it.

00:42:56.000 He just kind of did it harder than everybody else.

00:42:57.000 And the Senate resisted him so hard they caused the fall of the Republic.

00:43:01.000 The Senate won't even pass the SAVE Act, even though it's popular.

00:43:05.000 Congress is wholly dysfunctional.

00:43:07.000 We all know it.

00:43:08.000 They're all just serving themselves.

00:43:11.000 And it's because there is no unified culture.

00:43:13.000 There is no public mandate.

00:43:15.000 The public is fighting itself.

00:43:16.000 So members of Congress are like, okay, quick, grab as much China as you can on the way out.

00:43:20.000 I feel like the end result is just going to be, you know, some people, we've talked about the idea of civil war, but it could just be Balkanization. 0.58

00:43:27.000 I thought that when Caesar, when Trump, I mean, was running for office in 2020.

00:43:33.000 Yeah, if they had, like, they prevented him or whatever happened, he didn't get into office in 2020.

00:43:38.000 And then they were trying to arrest him and make it so he couldn't run again.

00:43:41.000 If that had succeeded, that would have been like Caesar, and he probably would have crossed the Rubicon.

00:43:46.000 What do you mean?

00:43:47.000 That was if they had legally been like, you can't run Don.

00:43:50.000 You can bet, I'm in power.

00:43:50.000 He'd been like, you know what?

00:43:52.000 Like, we could have seen a demagogue go real, but instead, it worked out.

00:43:56.000 He legally ran.

00:43:57.000 He legally ran.

00:43:58.000 The court cases aren't done yet.

00:44:01.000 Have we even gotten a ruling from the appellate court on the criminal case in New York?

00:44:06.000 Well, only that his hand wasn't forced in 24.

00:44:08.000 I feel like if he'd been arrested, somebody's hand may have been forced in 24 to do what Julius Caesar did when he crossed the city.

00:44:16.000 I wonder if all of this is just emergent and predictable.

00:44:22.000 That all societies will go through these ebbs and flows naturally for a variety of reasons.

00:44:29.000 Meaning, we talk about immigration, inflation, and all of these things, political corruption, but these are just inevitabilities based on, you know, it's one plus one equals two.

00:44:39.000 One domino falls over.

00:44:40.000 No matter how advanced a society is, these things will start happening.

00:44:43.000 You know how they say you got to kill the white-tailed deer?

00:44:45.000 You got to hunt them because they'll overgrow.

00:44:47.000 They'll eat.

00:44:48.000 And then they'll starve themselves out.

00:44:50.000 And this happens.

00:44:51.000 This happened here a few years ago.

00:44:52.000 Do humans go to war inevitably when the population gets so big?

00:44:55.000 We've never gotten to that point.

00:44:57.000 It's like World War I was not a population issue.

00:45:01.000 Well, all of these things do somewhat relate to it.

00:45:04.000 We've not gotten to a point where like red-tailed deer as a planet, but certainly there's been tons of resource wars, if not all of them.

00:45:10.000 And I will say the funniest thing is how many people the East India Trading Company killed because they wanted black peppercorn on their steak, which I get. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Or national steak, man.

00:45:19.000 We read an ad at the top of the show where it's like 30, we're 36 plus trillion in debt.

00:45:22.000 We're 39 trillion in debt.

00:45:23.000 That was getting worse.

00:45:24.000 That was like six months ago.

00:45:26.000 Six months ago.

00:45:26.000 We got out the description.

00:45:28.000 I don't see another path right now other than a world war that slaughters 30%, 15% of the population.

00:45:35.000 I just don't see another path.

00:45:36.000 How does a world war of you're saying that we have to have a world war to deal with debt?

00:45:41.000 Not that we have to, but that it's an inevitability.

00:45:43.000 Like 30,000 people.

00:45:44.000 So here's the thing.

00:45:45.000 Like World War I and II basically reset Europe and restructured how their governments functioned.

00:45:50.000 Talking about their health care system, for instance, was wholly a product of World War II.

00:45:54.000 Upward consolidation of wealth after World War I.

00:45:57.000 And population reduction.

00:45:59.000 It eliminates a large portion of the population, obviously.

00:46:02.000 It's like young men that want to change the world go up there and they fight and they sign up.

00:46:06.000 Let's do a throwback.

00:46:08.000 Should we be trending alongside comparable to Rome, what's next for us?

00:46:12.000 Well, I think the biggest thing is hailing the currency because people often talk about Constantine being the guy that brought Christianity into Rome as a legal religion.

00:46:21.000 It's what he did in 313.

00:46:23.000 But the thing that he does that he doesn't get a lot of credit for is in 314, he mints less than 100 gold coins.

00:46:28.000 And every year until he dies in 336, he's going to mint gold coins.

00:46:32.000 And if you look at the Eastern Roman Empire, it's going to go until about the year one from around 330.

00:46:37.000 Sorry, real quick.

00:46:38.000 What does that mean, mint 100 gold coins?

00:46:40.000 So he gradually, over a 20-year period, puts them on a gold standard.

00:46:45.000 And from that year, 300 until about 10, I think it's 1054, it goes to that point without inflation.

00:46:51.000 So he actually, one of the main reasons that the Eastern Roman Empire survives, besides the fact that Constantinople is so hard to attack, is they have a currency they can stand on.

00:47:01.000 And if you look at why the West fails in the 270s, Aurelian mints a new silver coin that's much more pure than all the silver coins, even though they've been debasing, but people didn't trust the money anymore.

00:47:11.000 So Constantine brought back gold, forced taxes to be paid in gold, and that forces gold into circulation.

00:47:16.000 And then the currency actually is valued as well.

00:47:18.000 That's what Trump is doing with the petrodollar.

00:47:20.000 Maybe.

00:47:22.000 The war in Iran is largely about dominating petrodollar or the oil system as well as natural gas.

00:47:30.000 We went over this great thread that basically breaks down everything the U.S. has been doing with Venezuela, with Iran.

00:47:35.000 And the play with Iran is you remove Iran from the chessboard and put their oil production into Western influence and natural gas. 0.86

00:47:42.000 The U.S. will control 45% of global natural gas and oil.

00:47:48.000 China and Russia will never stand a chance. 0.99

00:47:52.000 A solid currency isn't the only solution, but it's the solution that will buy you time to fix all of the other things.

00:47:58.000 Because if you have a currency where you can actually function as a society, people can actually pay for things.

00:48:03.000 They can actually handle their families.

00:48:06.000 Maybe.

00:48:07.000 I bought a bunch of that one.

00:48:08.000 It buys you time to handle the ethics of your politicians.

00:48:10.000 It buys you time to handle your borders.

00:48:12.000 But if you don't handle currency, you can't fix anything.

00:48:14.000 What were the other two things?

00:48:15.000 You said that currency and population, right?

00:48:18.000 Population, but handling your borders.

00:48:20.000 Because in the third century, Roman emperors are basically raising an army, declaring themselves emperor, fighting each other, and the strongest becomes the next emperor.

00:48:28.000 Does Trump need to be like, have babies?

00:48:30.000 We need more babies. 1.00

00:48:31.000 That is a big part of the problem as well, right?

00:48:33.000 Because if you look at even how population is rising, it's rising by people coming across the border rather than people being born here.

00:48:38.000 Yep.

00:48:38.000 And you can't replace your managers with Honduran farmers.

00:48:41.000 Correct.

00:48:42.000 Because there's this, the famous Roman armor people know is the Lorica segmentata.

00:48:49.000 It's the three-piece Roman armor that they wear.

00:48:51.000 The third century, they didn't wear that.

00:48:53.000 They wore things that looked more like barbarian armor.

00:48:55.000 And that's because the culture had changed.

00:48:57.000 And I think that's the biggest piece you have to look at.

00:48:59.000 When you lose a unifying culture, that is a bigger piece of a society actually falling apart.

00:49:04.000 The internet has caused such a strain on liberalism.

00:49:08.000 I think the American culture has been bombarded by strange and wonderful and new and horrible ideas constantly in the heat of them.

00:49:16.000 It's just the culture.

00:49:18.000 I don't know.

00:49:19.000 It's nice to have a superstar come across.

00:49:21.000 But then when the superstar plays for the Chicago Bulls and they're part of the circus, they can't speak out against the circus.

00:49:28.000 The gladiator gets ostracized.

00:49:31.000 I don't, I don't know.

00:49:33.000 What are you up on?

00:49:34.000 That's one of the reasons I care about great works of Western culture because most people at this point in time haven't read them.

00:49:39.000 They haven't read a lot of the works that would have been a major part of people's schooling.

00:49:43.000 They haven't taken a classical education.

00:49:47.000 There's a push out there for something called the, I think it's the classical education test or something like that.

00:49:53.000 And it's really pushing for getting classical education back in school because people don't understand history.

00:49:59.000 They don't understand true grammar.

00:50:01.000 They don't understand a lot of the things that a culture is built on.

00:50:04.000 And because of that, it's much easier to control people that will go with whatever's popular at the time.

00:50:09.000 Most people can't, you know, they can't read at grade level, you know, whatever grade they're in.

00:50:13.000 They're usually years behind.

00:50:15.000 So I'm going to go ahead and just say this.

00:50:19.000 Please don't be blackpilled by it.

00:50:21.000 But the presumption would be that we are tracking for like a dissolution, like a break, like a breakdown or something, right?

00:50:27.000 Well, so the third century, and that's you've talked about civil war and there's been discussions of national divorce and things like that.

00:50:34.000 And if you look at what happens when the center gets weak, that's when the edges start to break away.

00:50:39.000 In the third century, Rome has two different breakaway empires.

00:50:42.000 They have a Gallic Empire in the West that breaks off, the Palmyron Empire in the East. 0.98

00:50:47.000 And that was only because they were looking at we're paying taxes to a center in Rome that can't defend us.

00:50:52.000 They're no longer sending troops.

00:50:55.000 And Posthumus, who's the general in the West, decides he's just going to form his own empire rather than trying to take over Rome.

00:51:01.000 And that is what you see when an empire starts to fade is the edges start to break off because they know the center can no longer support them.

00:51:08.000 So that discussion coming up is a big point of showing how people feel about things.

00:51:14.000 It's hard to see anything other than that.

00:51:16.000 And it's because our political, our Congress is corrupt, doesn't do their job.

00:51:20.000 So the president just says, I'll do it myself.

00:51:24.000 And no one can stop him.

00:51:25.000 He's just paying the TSA by decree.

00:51:28.000 Who's going to do anything about it?

00:51:29.000 He can just do it.

00:51:31.000 So the presumption that there is a system of legitimacy by which we cooperate is out the window.

00:51:36.000 Now it's just Trump's in charge.

00:51:38.000 If Trump, honestly, I don't even know what would happen if come 2028, Trump appointed JD Vance by decree.

00:51:46.000 Like honest question.

00:51:47.000 At this point, if Trump just said, no, the results of the election are immaterial.

00:51:52.000 We are going to give JD Vance the presidency, file a lawsuit against me, they'd have to file a lawsuit.

00:51:57.000 And then if you, and that could take, like, imagine what would happen if Donald Trump said the results of 2028, 28 are called into question.

00:52:05.000 My FBI is investigating these.

00:52:08.000 We are not, we are seizing these ballot boxes.

00:52:10.000 Thus, the vote count is now in question.

00:52:13.000 Then what?

00:52:13.000 Someone's going to sue.

00:52:15.000 We thought something like that would happen in 2024.

00:52:17.000 It did not.

00:52:18.000 I'm just saying at this point, what would anyone actually do?

00:52:22.000 Are Democrats going to run?

00:52:23.000 No.

00:52:23.000 They're going to complain on TV.

00:52:25.000 You're going to have another no-kings protest and complain about how. 1.00

00:52:30.000 I just, I feel like if Trump truly did, listen, the idea that Trump can decree to pay TSA, like imagine if that happened 70 years ago.

00:52:41.000 The people in this country would freak out.

00:52:43.000 I hope that if he were to appoint someone or try to appoint someone, that the deep state would step in, like the Roman Praetorian Guard, you know, the security state and stop the psychopath from.

00:52:54.000 Well, there's a lot of ways you could do it.

00:52:56.000 The problem is, let's say there's an election in 2028, and people already don't trust elections.

00:53:02.000 That's my point.

00:53:03.000 So Trump comes out and says, we got a lot of fraud in California.

00:53:07.000 Look at this.

00:53:08.000 And then they show a bunch of data and they do Michael Indell times 20.

00:53:12.000 And then they say, you know, Kash Patel comes out, or if he's still FBI director, and says, we have seized these voting machines to analyze the data because we have evidence of foreign intrusion and potential fraud.

00:53:25.000 So these can't be counted towards the totals, which calls California into question.

00:53:29.000 And then the vote then goes to a delegation instead of a popular vote.

00:53:33.000 The delegations are then based on Congress and they vote in the Republic.

00:53:36.000 And the Democrats then say, no, it's not possible.

00:53:38.000 We've speculated on these things before, mind you.

00:53:40.000 But my point ultimately is, if we ever come to that point, if the deep state did come out and try and stop Trump, it would enshrine him as king for life.

00:53:51.000 Imagine Donald Trump saying, look, I don't really know entirely what's going on.

00:53:55.000 Our FBI says they found evidence of fraud.

00:53:57.000 And then the CIA takes a shot at the king and misses.

00:54:00.000 Trump will then rise before the Senate and say, the attempt at my life has left me scarred.

00:54:05.000 That's what happened.

00:54:06.000 He did it.

00:54:06.000 That's here.

00:54:07.000 That's what happened.

00:54:08.000 He took it in the ear and now he's full gone ho. 0.99

00:54:10.000 But like, the Praetorian Guard doesn't miss.

00:54:12.000 Like, you look at Roman.

00:54:14.000 Do they?

00:54:14.000 They do.

00:54:14.000 They do at times.

00:54:15.000 Like, what percentage of it?

00:54:16.000 I mean, I guess it's history rights.

00:54:18.000 Well, if you.

00:54:18.000 Oh, they, whoever shot at Trump missed.

00:54:21.000 Well, that was.

00:54:22.000 Two emperors got rid of the Praetorian Guard for that reason and then put their own men in it.

00:54:25.000 You have Septimius Severus in the early second century got rid of the Praetorian Guard because he realized that was going to be a problem for him.

00:54:33.000 He put his own men in.

00:54:35.000 And Trump's trying to do that now with getting his guys in these institutions.

00:54:39.000 Isn't it wild?

00:54:40.000 Constantine got rid of it altogether.

00:54:42.000 Dude, our White House is a Roman building. 0.99

00:54:44.000 It looks like a Roman building.

00:54:45.000 They would have.

00:54:46.000 Well, the Founding Fathers wanted to have the Roman style architecture for a lot of buildings.

00:54:52.000 George Wallace.

00:54:53.000 It just, you know, honestly, like literally, the writers of Earth season 12 are just out of ideas and they're like, let's do Rome again.

00:55:00.000 Let's do a remake of Rome.

00:55:02.000 People loved it.

00:55:03.000 Do Rome, but like with some Viking action, like guys that'll crawl through the mud with a sword. 0.83

00:55:09.000 No, they're like, let's just do like, you know, they brought in J.J. Abrams and he's like, listen, look, it's not complicated.

00:55:15.000 Just redo Rome and add new action.

00:55:17.000 And they were like, okay.

00:55:19.000 So, you know, like God's up there being like, all right, let's, let's go with Rome for 2020.

00:55:24.000 We are Roman.

00:55:25.000 I often will say like, we're like a blend between the Romans and the Vikings.

00:55:25.000 I don't know.

00:55:29.000 We kind of coalesced in England in the early 1100s.

00:55:33.000 And then our founding fathers wanted it to be a combination of republicanism, monarchy, and other forms of government to make something better than the Council of Elders.

00:55:43.000 I forgot what it's called.

00:55:44.000 There's a word for it.

00:55:45.000 But basically, the Founding Fathers were brilliant because they said, instead of doing just one government, why don't we do three at the same time?

00:55:52.000 And unfortunately, now, all that really matters is the executive branch.

00:55:56.000 And every day that Congress doesn't do their job and just fights for political, it's political bickering for donations.

00:56:02.000 Trump is just given leeway to do literally whatever he wants.

00:56:06.000 I mean, listen, allocating funding for TSA by decree is nuts.

00:56:11.000 But how do you fix Congress?

00:56:11.000 This is all.

00:56:13.000 Because you look at it, and even they just care about the next midterm or they care about the next election cycle.

00:56:17.000 That's why they don't want to take any votes.

00:56:20.000 Any significant votes, because if they give the power to the president, they can say, well, you know, the president has the authority.

00:56:27.000 I didn't vote for that.

00:56:28.000 You know, we can't do anything about it.

00:56:30.000 And that's really what they want.

00:56:32.000 They want to be able to be in Congress and get all the benefits of being in Congress without actually having any of the responsibilities.

00:56:38.000 That's why they gave the president the power to, you know, the whole military author, the authorization for use of force when it came to the war on terror, because they didn't want to have to actually say yes or no.

00:56:48.000 You know, they didn't want that responsibility.

00:56:50.000 I look at it.

00:56:50.000 They're going to lose their next election.

00:56:52.000 Congress is a verb, means to move together.

00:56:55.000 Gress, meaning to move.

00:56:56.000 Con with, you move together.

00:56:58.000 And that's the whole point is they are moving together.

00:56:59.000 They're congressing.

00:57:00.000 No, no, no, no, Ian.

00:57:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:02.000 Do you know what progress means?

00:57:04.000 Move forward, yeah.

00:57:05.000 And pro and con means?

00:57:07.000 Well, con can mean not or with.

00:57:08.000 It's a joke, Ian.

00:57:09.000 Calm down.

00:57:10.000 Yeah.

00:57:10.000 So you say what does pro and con means?

00:57:12.000 Pro means good, con means bad.

00:57:13.000 What does progress mean?

00:57:14.000 It's like, oh, to advance, move forward.

00:57:15.000 What does Congress mean?

00:57:16.000 Everyone laughs.

00:57:17.000 I think the inception was to move together as a decentralized autonomy.

00:57:23.000 And we could do that again.

00:57:24.000 It doesn't have to be the 1700s version of it because the U.S. is falling.

00:57:27.000 It's changing.

00:57:28.000 It literally can't happen.

00:57:28.000 It's transmuting.

00:57:29.000 We still need to congress.

00:57:30.000 We just got to figure out a way to get it.

00:57:31.000 It's not going to happen.

00:57:32.000 What do you mean?

00:57:33.000 It's just not going to happen.

00:57:34.000 Well, it will happen whether you're in part of it or not.

00:57:37.000 That's not correct.

00:57:38.000 Nope.

00:57:38.000 Yeah.

00:57:39.000 I'm building suspense.

00:57:40.000 I'm just saying. 0.97

00:57:40.000 I'm waiting a little bit so that we get into it before I actually say you will never have two men stand side by side locking arms when one says chop off a child's genitals and the other is a Christian. 0.97

00:57:50.000 I don't know, man.

00:57:52.000 Yeah, pretty sure you're not a union, dude, in the World War II.

00:57:56.000 You find alliances.

00:57:57.000 You don't have to be your friends.

00:57:58.000 No, The communists all died and are gone.

00:58:02.000 There's a big difference.

00:58:02.000 We allied with those people for a short period of time.

00:58:05.000 The only reason we allied with them was because they were fighting the Nazis. 0.56

00:58:08.000 We weren't allied with them because we had some kind of similar worldview.

00:58:12.000 But hold on.

00:58:12.000 We barely allied with them.

00:58:15.000 The Russians have to pull back, bro. 1.00

00:58:17.000 The Russians invaded Poland, and the U.S. was like, well, they can take half of Germany. 0.71

00:58:21.000 I'll take the other half.

00:58:22.000 We were never friends.

00:58:23.000 No, no.

00:58:23.000 Friends and allies.

00:58:24.000 And I talked about this with Dan Holloway.

00:58:26.000 Friendships and alliances are not the same thing.

00:58:27.000 You might hate the person you're allied with, but my point is Congress cannot function when the moral worldviews of the two political ideologies are so distinct from each other.

00:58:40.000 Now, if the Democrats, as their play, is to start excising the whack-aloon lefties and you end up with Tulsi Gabbard versus Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. Versus JD Vance, we're good. 0.98

00:58:52.000 Because they're going to be like, ah, those guys are great.

00:58:54.000 They're my friends, but we disagree on certain policies and we're going to get along.

00:58:57.000 But you have to excise the fringe psycho element of the left. 0.98

00:59:01.000 The whack-aloon, tax-the-rich, chop-off kids' balls faction. 0.98

00:59:05.000 That can't exist. 0.99

00:59:07.000 There will be no cohesion between a regular American who wants to just go to work and the people who are like children should get sex changes. 0.95

00:59:14.000 You could see Marco Rubio working with a moderate Democrat.

00:59:17.000 That'd be interesting.

00:59:18.000 I can tell you they're doing it right now.

00:59:19.000 RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard are in the Trump administration.

00:59:22.000 If moving forward, the Democrats embrace, like, you have the Trump admin and it breaks into two, a left Trump and a right Trump, everyone's good.

00:59:30.000 We get along, we're all friends.

00:59:31.000 You asked Jeremy, like, how do we fix Congress?

00:59:34.000 I don't, I don't see, because they get bribed.

00:59:36.000 You know, there's 450 of them.

00:59:38.000 They're such easy targets to bribe.

00:59:40.000 It's so easy to tweak.

00:59:42.000 And I just want to congress, like, as American people, I don't, you know, technology is such that we don't have to rely on sending someone to Washington, D.C. to hope that they do it for you anymore.

00:59:51.000 You can just kind of interface through the internet through technology.

00:59:53.000 Do you really think that?

00:59:54.000 That was never the point.

00:59:56.000 Of what?

00:59:57.000 The point was literally to not have democracy.

01:00:01.000 Quite literally, it was quote to have better men.

01:00:03.000 That was an actual quote from the Founding Fathers.

01:00:05.000 So when you elect a representative, you are choosing someone whose job it is to facilitate.

01:00:11.000 It was not so that the collective wishes of the community be manifested democratically.

01:00:16.000 They did not want democracy.

01:00:18.000 The 17th Amendment was a, what was, was, I'm sorry, the reason people say to repeal the 17th Amendment is because initially when it came to the appointment of senators, the idea was that you would elect a state senator or a state rep who would then vote among a group of people, a better man, who would go to Congress to represent the state.

01:00:38.000 A question on that, just a clarification.

01:00:39.000 Are the better men just the senators or were they the reps?

01:00:42.000 The reps as well.

01:00:43.000 And the senators, the reps. 0.96

01:00:45.000 The idea was: you're a farmer.

01:00:47.000 You don't understand the affairs that are going on with foreign policy, taxation, and national policy.

01:00:52.000 Do you trust me?

01:00:54.000 I will go and the values I hold, I will bring to D.C. You know, it really is.

01:00:59.000 You say, you do it, buddy.

01:01:00.000 I hire you to do the job.

01:01:01.000 And with the age of education, it's like, do you still want to live like that? 0.98

01:01:04.000 Where you must suffer as a poor farmer and hope that that guy who's probably dumber than you is going to do it better because he's more charismatic? 1.00

01:01:11.000 Don't vote for a guy who's dumber than you. 0.99

01:01:12.000 Well, most of the people in Congress are dumber than me, no offense, but they're just do you know what Dunning-Kruger means? 1.00

01:01:20.000 I've heard of it, yeah. 1.00

01:01:22.000 Where you think you're smarter than you are?

01:01:23.000 Yeah, the members of Congress are all smarter than you.

01:01:25.000 Now, I'm not saying they're the smartest people in the world.

01:01:27.000 I'm sorry, dude.

01:01:28.000 It's impossible to quantify, but.

01:01:28.000 It's a fact.

01:01:30.000 Alexandrio Casio is a smart person.

01:01:33.000 I believe that.

01:01:34.000 And anybody who's capable of manipulating a system to get them into that position of power is smarter.

01:01:40.000 They're charismatic and they're wealthy a lot of times.

01:01:42.000 They're good at it.

01:01:43.000 They are better at calculating their plans and odds and future decisions than you are.

01:01:47.000 And that's not necessarily intelligence.

01:01:49.000 That's the ability to observe something take a bigger risk than any of us would take.

01:01:53.000 My point is, it doesn't, you know, I'll say this.

01:01:55.000 It doesn't matter if you're smarter or not.

01:01:58.000 They are in a position of power over you and they figured out how to get there and you did not.

01:02:02.000 So we're living in this poor farmer 1778 legal system where I'm for it completely.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, I know.

01:02:08.000 You love it.

01:02:09.000 Obviously, it's doing so well.

01:02:10.000 Oh, I'm not in favor of the corruption and the degradation, but I will just stress, Lord help us if someone like you had political power. 0.57

01:02:10.000 Why not just? 0.57

01:02:16.000 I do have political power.

01:02:18.000 We have a TV internet.

01:02:18.000 So do you.

01:02:19.000 You don't vote.

01:02:20.000 Like you don't vote in Congress.

01:02:20.000 Tell people to do this.

01:02:22.000 You don't go to Congress and pass bills.

01:02:24.000 You think you're smarter than everyone in Congress.

01:02:27.000 That's insane.

01:02:28.000 I didn't say I'm smarter than everyone in Congress.

01:02:30.000 I think you said that.

01:02:30.000 You smarter than you.

01:02:31.000 You did people in Congress.

01:02:32.000 I think Thomas Massey is way smarter than me.

01:02:34.000 Okay.

01:02:34.000 You think you're smarter than most of the people in Congress?

01:02:36.000 I have yet to see that those people are geniuses in Congress.

01:02:39.000 I would love to see really intelligence leading the way.

01:02:42.000 It's charisma, however.

01:02:43.000 It doesn't have to be that they're geniuses.

01:02:46.000 And not to say that they're smarter than you, but most people in Congress, most of the time when people get frustrated with people in Congress, it's not because they think they're actually dumb, which there are some people in Congress that actually I think that are, you know, when Corey Bush was in Congress, I think she was, I don't think Corey Bush is particularly intelligent.

01:03:02.000 Jasmine Crockett's terrifying.

01:03:04.000 What is that quote?

01:03:04.000 What is that?

01:03:05.000 It is the plight of man that the ignorant are so confident and the smart are so doubtful, something to that effect.

01:03:12.000 But most people in Congress are, you know, they're fairly intelligent.

01:03:16.000 And just because they don't do what we want, a lot of times that's not because of the individual.

01:03:21.000 It's because of the way their system's set up.

01:03:22.000 Like I've talked about how like, you know, nobody likes how the sausage is made, right?

01:03:26.000 Like nobody likes to see how you actually have to do business in DC.

01:03:31.000 That's the way that it is. 1.00

01:03:33.000 There are people marching down the street with no kings signs and they will tell you that Donald Trump is a stupid person who was there accidentally. 1.00

01:03:41.000 And they will say that Elon Musk is a trust fund kid whose dad owned an emerald mine, emerald mine, and that's why he's rich and powerful by chance and he's actually really dumb. 0.99

01:03:53.000 And if you ask them, do you genuinely believe, having not studied any of the work that these men have done, having not built anything comparable to them, or even understanding the basic mechanisms of an LLC at S Corp or C Corp, that you are smarter than they are? 0.96

01:04:07.000 And they will go, of course.

01:04:09.000 That is the plight of man.

01:04:11.000 And that is why Democrats as a party have existed the way they have for so long.

01:04:15.000 Because with all due respect, they're not wrong about Dunning Krueger.

01:04:21.000 The fact that they have, what was it, like 3 million estimated across the country at these No Kings protests, these people genuinely believe they're smarter than the world's richest man who has brought, what is it now, three companies over a trillion dollar net worth?

01:04:37.000 And they're like, I'm smarter than him.

01:04:38.000 It's like the dude is landing rockets.

01:04:41.000 He is bringing rockets to space and then landing them on platforms in the ocean.

01:04:46.000 You are not smarter than this man.

01:04:47.000 And they're like, yes, I am.

01:04:48.000 My favorite cope is they're like, well, you know, he doesn't actually do it.

01:04:52.000 It's other people that do it.

01:04:53.000 And then you talk to people.

01:04:54.000 You have to hire those people that know how to do it.

01:04:56.000 Well, not only that, but you talk to people that work at SpaceX and they're like, no, he's an engineer.

01:05:01.000 It's not worth time.

01:05:03.000 It's that Elon goes to three guys and he says, you know, one of the biggest problems with rockets is we have to keep reusing all of it.

01:05:11.000 It's hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:05:11.000 It's very expensive.

01:05:13.000 So the idea is how do we implement a landing system for reusable rockets?

01:05:17.000 And then one guy goes, well, I think we should make it out of moon cheese.

01:05:20.000 And he goes, that's a bad idea.

01:05:21.000 The point is, he brings 10 engineers before him and he says, what's your plan?

01:05:26.000 And the guy goes, A, B, C, D.

01:05:29.000 He goes, those plans are bad.

01:05:30.000 You make it work.

01:05:31.000 Then he gives that guy money and that guy makes it work.

01:05:34.000 It's not that he is going to actually write the code, build the materials.

01:05:38.000 It's that he's going to listen to all the ideas and in his brain is connecting the dots saying, your idea will not work for these reasons.

01:05:44.000 Your idea is too expensive.

01:05:45.000 That actually might work.

01:05:46.000 Let's try that one.

01:05:47.000 And then it does.

01:05:48.000 And he does it over and over and over again because the simple thing about being smart is being it's it's recollection and being able being able to utilize that recollection to connect dots to make future predictions and Elon has that in spades.

01:06:03.000 It's the difference between strategic thinking and tactical thinking.

01:06:06.000 Tactical thinking, you're trying to solve just one situation, whereas strategic, you're looking at doing something more long-term and that has more moving parts to it.

01:06:13.000 And there's just, it's wild to me that like, you know, we'll have somebody on this show, usually when it's contentious and they're a lefty.

01:06:20.000 And I always just ask, like, you've not Googled this.

01:06:25.000 You've not read anything about it nor listened to the quotes from the individuals involved.

01:06:30.000 Do you actually believe you are correct?

01:06:31.000 And they'll go, of course.

01:06:32.000 And it's just like, okay.

01:06:35.000 Well, that person's going to vote to blow the country up. 0.95

01:06:38.000 So do you think, like, the founding fathers did not want direct democracy, that's for sure.

01:06:42.000 And I'll tell you this: Democrats don't even want that.

01:06:44.000 The reason why Republicans won't pass the SAVE Act is because they don't want any of y'all voting for that reason.

01:06:49.000 Because there's a Republican right now, like John Thune is sitting in his hideaway cabin, like hiding from everybody.

01:06:55.000 And there's someone going, Senator, why won't you pass the SAVE Act?

01:06:58.000 And he goes, are you watching this Tim Cast IRL?

01:07:00.000 This dude said he was smarter than most of the people in Congress.

01:07:03.000 That's why we don't want him to vote.

01:07:07.000 I mean, I can't even get into the Save Act.

01:07:10.000 I don't think people in Congress are the smartest people on the planet.

01:07:12.000 I think many of them are underachieved and they go to Congress because it's the best thing they can attach to for some kind of legacy or notability.

01:07:21.000 That being said, it is extremely difficult to succeed to get into Congress.

01:07:27.000 It is not something anyone can just do.

01:07:29.000 It takes clever planning, hours of working overtime nonstop.

01:07:33.000 It is very, very difficult to accomplish.

01:07:35.000 These are not necessarily all good or honest people.

01:07:37.000 They're not going to solve complex equations, but they are certainly smarter and a lot smarter than the average person.

01:07:45.000 You can call them evil.

01:07:45.000 That's fine and dishonest, but they are smarter than the average person.

01:07:48.000 They have figured out the mechanisms by which they can build a system and get into a seat of authority and power.

01:07:53.000 And they're also willing to do the things that the rest of us aren't willing to do.

01:07:55.000 So that's something else.

01:07:57.000 They will work hard in a gray area or something that's even illegal to be able to push what they want to push.

01:08:03.000 So they're willing to do things that a lot of us just wouldn't be willing to do.

01:08:07.000 Indeed, my friends.

01:08:08.000 I know we, let's see, we got a couple of stories pulled up.

01:08:11.000 And let's jump to, you know, we talked a lot about the Roman Empire already.

01:08:16.000 We were going to talk about DeSantis naming the airport after Trump, but it kind of played into what we've already discussed with Trump ruling by decree and all that stuff.

01:08:24.000 So let's do this.

01:08:26.000 Let's do this.

01:08:27.000 We've got this post from at Jason, and we got a story from the New York Post.

01:08:31.000 The New York Post reports AI dangerously close to solving tests that only the brightest minds on earth, human expertise still, earth could, human expertise still matters.

01:08:41.000 At Jason says, the truth is we've already reached artificial general intelligence.

01:08:46.000 We just haven't implemented it broadly.

01:08:48.000 Millions of jobs are being lost as we speak.

01:08:50.000 Entire careers are being retired.

01:08:52.000 The rich and powerful investors and founders who implemented AGI will get bizarrely rich beyond what makes sense.

01:08:58.000 It will break people's brains on both sides.

01:09:01.000 It's going to suck a lot of our friends and family, for a lot of our friends and suck for a lot of friends and family who aren't obsessed with their careers because things are moving so fast, they won't have even left the starting gate by the time the awards are handed out.

01:09:13.000 We're going to have to solve for a lot of second and third order effects, some of which will suck, job loss, and some of which will be awesome.

01:09:19.000 AI will create free, cheap energy, free education, cheaper and better food homes that build themselves and medicine that makes you as healthy as a 30-year-old when you're 100.

01:09:29.000 Change is hard, but humans are the most adaptable species nature has ever created.

01:09:33.000 We can figure it out.

01:09:34.000 I saw a UFO the other day.

01:09:35.000 Took a picture of it.

01:09:36.000 Really?

01:09:36.000 Yeah.

01:09:38.000 So exactly what Owen Schroer described seeing, I saw something similar when I was driving in West Virginia.

01:09:44.000 I bring this up because I'm wondering if these sightings that people are reportedly seeing, like the drones and stuff, are actually just a function of advanced technology.

01:09:52.000 We have already reached.

01:09:53.000 It's not out of the question that someone's flying a drone over a farm.

01:09:56.000 So that's why I'm like, I say UFO, but I'm just being kind of shocking.

01:09:59.000 But I wonder if there's just degrees of technology that have advanced so far.

01:10:03.000 Regular people aren't catching up to this.

01:10:04.000 My point.

01:10:06.000 Andy was telling me, my boy Andy works here, that late at night, he'll see, actually, I think it was Andy saying this, you'll see lights in the sky, just like you'll see UFOs flying around like crazy.

01:10:18.000 No one cares.

01:10:19.000 Why?

01:10:19.000 Well, it's drones probably.

01:10:21.000 They're just drones flying around at night.

01:10:22.000 What do I care?

01:10:23.000 However, there are a lot of people who this advancement in drones has come so quickly, they see these things in the sky and they freak out.

01:10:32.000 And you get reportings of UFOs.

01:10:34.000 So, as it relates to the artificial intelligence stuff, I think it's very likely that we are substantially more advanced in AI than anyone knows, but the implementation is happening only in key areas.

01:10:45.000 For instance, there's a big story right now where they've got AI cow herding.

01:10:50.000 The cows all wear collars, and the farmer looks at his phone and he draws a circle as the grazing area, and the cows all get like a brah, bram, brahm that makes the cows start moving to the appropriate area to graze.

01:11:03.000 He no longer needs dogs to do anything.

01:11:05.000 These kinds of things are happening rapidly, but a plumber doesn't know this.

01:11:09.000 So, one day he sees a cow with a collar on going and it's talking, and then he sees the cow walking down the street, and he goes, What is that thing on that cow?

01:11:18.000 Is this alien?

01:11:20.000 And the device is going, and then the cow's moving, and he's like, So, my point is technology is advancing faster than human culture can adapt to it.

01:11:29.000 There's a phrase that they use in AI.

01:11:32.000 They say that AI has jagged edges because there's a lot of capabilities that artificial intelligence has, but that doesn't mean that there's an adoption of it.

01:11:42.000 So, there's a lot of things that your AI could do, but it hasn't really filtered out into the population yet.

01:11:50.000 So, the adoption of AI is actually lagging compared to what the capabilities of most of AI are.

01:11:56.000 Exactly.

01:11:56.000 I agree.

01:11:57.000 And I think, guys, have you seen the Black Snape versus Snape UFC match?

01:12:05.000 Oh, God.

01:12:06.000 Dude, AI video is just, it's, my mind is the acceleration.

01:12:13.000 It's real.

01:12:15.000 It's indistinguishable.

01:12:16.000 That's why they're attacking Iran. 1.00

01:12:17.000 They have attack.

01:12:18.000 They got.

01:12:19.000 You notice how quiet the Iranian development has been the last three months.

01:12:24.000 No, it hasn't been.

01:12:26.000 You haven't sensed the void?

01:12:27.000 It hasn't.

01:12:27.000 There's an intentional occupation.

01:12:29.000 It has not been quiet.

01:12:30.000 Opus.

01:12:31.000 Check this out.

01:12:31.000 Anthropic released Opus.

01:12:33.000 That means there's nothing.

01:12:35.000 Let me turn the volume down on this, but watch this.

01:12:37.000 Quiet at all.

01:12:53.000 this the air this is crazy They really want to put people in pods, man.

01:13:04.000 entertain them it's like the spaghetti meme it's It's getting so crazy good.

01:13:15.000 I don't know how you protect people's bio-rhythms.

01:13:18.000 They made Joe Rogan black, or is that somebody I don't know?

01:13:22.000 No, that's what Joe Rogan was wearing.

01:13:25.000 That's another announcement that they live in there.

01:13:27.000 The point is, in the next year with Sea Dance 3, they're talking about generating 17-minute short films in 30 seconds.

01:13:37.000 Movies are over, music is over, like the transformation.

01:13:40.000 It's already here, and we are culturally lagging.

01:13:46.000 Like, we used to make movies.

01:13:46.000 It's so funny.

01:13:48.000 In the future, they'll be like, God, they used to actually stand there and do all the talking themselves.

01:13:53.000 What, did they used to take the letter and hand deliver it, walk all the way across town too before they called on phone?

01:14:00.000 Yeah.

01:14:01.000 And now AI is, it's going to just be so.

01:14:03.000 Now my Neuralink is networked to yours and I can just think something to you.

01:14:06.000 I just used Claude Cowork last week because I needed a new media page on my site.

01:14:09.000 I gave it my brand standards.

01:14:11.000 It asked me for a few photos.

01:14:12.000 It built the whole page out, did all the search engine optimization.

01:14:15.000 Then it looked terrible on mobile.

01:14:16.000 So I said, hey, fix it for mobile.

01:14:17.000 It fixed it on mobile.

01:14:19.000 So I can't imagine what it does for even web designers and SEO.

01:14:24.000 We have a job availability for a film producer because we always have these ideas.

01:14:28.000 I have a great idea for a little Black Mirror type mini.

01:14:32.000 It starts with Ian playing video games and he's playing like Civ or something.

01:14:36.000 And then he gets a text from Phil.

01:14:38.000 And Phil's like, hey, buddy, you know, I'm going to come in a little bit early.

01:14:42.000 You want to grab a bite to eat before the show and like, you know, just shoot the ish. 0.99

01:14:45.000 And then Ian's like, oh, yeah, for sure, but I got to finish work.

01:14:48.000 So let me see if I can take a break.

01:14:50.000 And then he looks over at Claude and it's just running these crazy programs.

01:14:54.000 And he's seeing a money incrementer go up.

01:14:56.000 And then he's like, eh, it'll be good if I leave it for a little bit.

01:14:59.000 Then he goes to grab lunch with Phil before the show.

01:15:03.000 And then Phil's like, yeah, yeah, no, I'm still at work right now, but I figured I'd take some lunch.

01:15:07.000 And then he looks at his phone and Claude is just doing all of the work for him.

01:15:11.000 It's like doing, and then you're seeing a money incrementer go up.

01:15:14.000 And society basically has AI digital versions of everybody that works in white-collar jobs while you do whatever you want.

01:15:23.000 Right now, the way that young people can actually become, at least for the next, you know, probably decade, five years, 10 years, can become extraordinary, well, extraordinarily wealthy is learn a trade.

01:15:35.000 Like if you're an electrician and you get a job, speaking of Optimus Pro.

01:15:40.000 Well, I think, I mean, I do think that that'll be eventually, but the thing about artificial general intelligence is that if we are at this point, let me put it like this.

01:15:51.000 You guys know about time dilation, obviously, right?

01:15:54.000 Old sci-fi trope.

01:15:55.000 The idea was that if we created a spaceship to go to Alpha Centauri, loaded up a bunch of humans on it, and then said it's going to take 100 years to get there.

01:16:04.000 They're going to accelerate as fast as possible.

01:16:05.000 At the halfway mark, start decelerating.

01:16:08.000 By the time they're halfway there, another spaceship full of colonists will fly past them because technology will have advanced so much due to time dilation back on Earth that they will be going slow. 0.98

01:16:20.000 And you'll fly past them and go, wow, the old colony shit. 0.83

01:16:24.000 That's what's happening now with Optimus bots. 0.97

01:16:27.000 AI is, by the time we get to AGI in full implementation, it's going to be like you wasted all your time designing Optimus.

01:16:36.000 I'm going to give you a schematic for a perfect human android and go, here's how to build it.

01:16:40.000 I thought that's why they closed Sora because they're like, that's old technology now.

01:16:44.000 They can't compete.

01:16:45.000 It's advancing way too quickly and they've got to put their resources somewhere else.

01:16:48.000 It was costing them a million a day.

01:16:50.000 They had half a million users.

01:16:51.000 Nobody, like relatively nobody was using it.

01:16:53.000 Phil posted something last week.

01:16:54.000 It was a Spotify link and it was like, oh, this is pretty good, but it looks like an AI band.

01:16:58.000 Like, I can't even imagine what this is going to do to the music industry because it's, you know, you can tell if you listen, but you know, eventually it's going to be even better.

01:17:07.000 No, we're already past that point.

01:17:08.000 Yeah.

01:17:08.000 Personally, I think the music industry was cooked when Spotify came out 20 years ago.

01:17:12.000 But that's just me.

01:17:16.000 The issue is if you are a music producer and you break down a song, you'll notice where things are AI, but the average person will absolutely not absolutely not notice.

01:17:27.000 I've got a bunch of so first, first and foremost, all instrumental music is over.

01:17:33.000 So I knew a guy who used to sit in his room all day writing songs that were instrumental and he would upload them to various music databases.

01:17:40.000 Then he would get paid per month per how many songs he had in the database.

01:17:43.000 So he would just start cranking out songs.

01:17:46.000 And there were orchestral compositions.

01:17:48.000 They were like dance beats because people would license the songs for their media projects.

01:17:52.000 That job is gone.

01:17:55.000 So we've like we've done a few projects, need music, pop up in Suno, type in ambient, eerie horror soundtrack.

01:18:04.000 Done.

01:18:05.000 Instantly, you get two versions.

01:18:06.000 You try them out.

01:18:06.000 Eh, don't like them.

01:18:07.000 Generate, generate, generate, play.

01:18:09.000 You're done.

01:18:10.000 Well, here's the question I have, though.

01:18:11.000 Does the pushback come where people start demanding more humanity because they don't like that being taken out of it?

01:18:16.000 I don't think so.

01:18:17.000 I think you might have some hipster dump type stuff like vinyl records, but I think young people, there's a funny thing I saw.

01:18:24.000 This comedian, Elon Musk retweeted this.

01:18:27.000 There's a comedian who was like, everybody is scared of automatic cars.

01:18:32.000 Don't be scared.

01:18:33.000 Let me explain.

01:18:35.000 When you go to the grocery store, the door opens and you've never thought twice.

01:18:40.000 But would you rather there be two guys standing there, grabbing the door and opening it and closing it every time you're walking through with your family?

01:18:47.000 Nah, we're okay.

01:18:48.000 And then Elon pointed, I think it was Elon who pointed this out, or he retweeted someone who did.

01:18:52.000 Elevators used to be manual.

01:18:54.000 You would go in and a guy would pull a lever to make it go up or down.

01:18:58.000 I'm a bellhop.

01:18:59.000 That's the bellhop guy that helped you.

01:19:00.000 That's the guy to get your suitcase.

01:19:01.000 Yeah, he grabbed.

01:19:02.000 They saw that bellhop.

01:19:03.000 You know, bellhops still exist and they grab your suitcase and they bring it in for you.

01:19:08.000 Bellhop's not the guy that would run the whole other dude that would just stand there all day.

01:19:12.000 So he'd have a lever operator.

01:19:14.000 Yeah, you'd go in the elevator and he'd pull a lever back and then you'd go up and he would drive it for you.

01:19:19.000 No one's ever complained about automatic elevators.

01:19:22.000 So I think kids are going to grow up with this being normal and they're just going to be like, what do you mean?

01:19:26.000 Music is whatever you want it to be.

01:19:28.000 So is it just the idea that we get further away from the change and the next generation doesn't care because they haven't experienced it the other way?

01:19:34.000 Indeed.

01:19:35.000 That's one of the funnels. 1.00

01:19:36.000 You'll notice that when it comes to like privacy issues, right?

01:19:39.000 Like people, my generation and older, they actually care about privacy.

01:19:43.000 They're like, oh, I don't know if I want this.

01:19:44.000 I don't want.

01:19:45.000 When Xbox 360 first came out, like when they first did the update, it was like, it was a big deal that it was always connected to the internet and it had a camera that could watch you.

01:19:56.000 And I was like, I'm not getting that.

01:19:57.000 I don't want that, blah, And then I got an iPhone.

01:20:00.000 It's like, you know, I mean, it's over.

01:20:02.000 You know, it's over.

01:20:03.000 And so young people, people that are in their 20s and younger, they don't have the same concept of privacy that older generations do because they live in a world where there are cameras all the time, where they're constantly taking pictures and loading them to the internet and stuff.

01:20:20.000 The idea of privacy just has gone away.

01:20:23.000 So it's not a situation where people are going to be like, oh, you know, I don't want to lose my privacy.

01:20:28.000 It's like they're not really going to have the same attachment to privacy that older generations that have.

01:20:34.000 Yeah, because I know for me, like I'll be 40 in a year.

01:20:36.000 And I remember when you went into Windows, you had to type in W-I-N to get to Windows of the MS-DOS prompt.

01:20:40.000 And it's, I've had enough experience of life the other way.

01:20:44.000 And I guess not having that life experience, you wouldn't know what you're missing.

01:20:47.000 Yeah.

01:20:47.000 I mean, look, I don't put pictures of my kid on the internet.

01:20:50.000 Like, I don't, his face isn't up on the internet and stuff.

01:20:54.000 And I'm sure that by the time he's a teenager, he's going to be like, I don't care, whatever, you know.

01:20:59.000 But until he is old enough to make the decision, like, I'm not going to do that for him.

01:21:04.000 But I strongly suspect that he's going to be like, look, man, there's always videos.

01:21:09.000 There's always camera.

01:21:10.000 Dad, you're always watching me or, you know, through somehow or what have you.

01:21:14.000 So I think that young people are just going to have a different relationship with privacy than older generations.

01:21:21.000 Let's jump to this story.

01:21:22.000 We've got this from Technology Law, FKKS.

01:21:28.000 So you may have heard the story.

01:21:29.000 It broke last month, but there's a lot moving right now.

01:21:34.000 New York and Washington are taking on loot boxes and video games.

01:21:37.000 Letitia James, the Democrat AG from New York, has filed a lawsuit against Valve for hosting illegal gambling.

01:21:45.000 We've got this from her website from the end of February, basically saying that Counter-Strike 2, Team Fortress 2, and Dota 2 enable gambling by enticing users to pay for the chance to win a rare virtual item of significant monetary value.

01:22:00.000 In Valve's most popular game, the process resembles a slot machine with an animated spinning wheel that eventually rests on a selected item.

01:22:06.000 The randomly selected virtual items have no in-game functionality, but can be sold online for money, with one of them reportedly being sold for more than $1 million.

01:22:16.000 I believe New York and Washington are going to win.

01:22:19.000 Valve is going to lose.

01:22:20.000 The end result will be that loot boxes and anything comparable is gambling.

01:22:25.000 And the reason why is that casinos are opening everywhere.

01:22:29.000 New York just announced three new gaming licenses.

01:22:33.000 A hard rock, they've got, what is it?

01:22:35.000 They're doing a Bally's in the Bronx, a Hard Rock somewhere.

01:22:40.000 They've already got resorts world.

01:22:41.000 They're going to have, I think, four casinos in New York City.

01:22:45.000 Wow.

01:22:45.000 Four.

01:22:46.000 Four.

01:22:46.000 Now, these casinos are probably going, these big corporations, to Letitia James, to Washington, saying, we will open these casinos and you will make bank off of your tax share from gambling only if you eliminate any competition.

01:23:03.000 The reason I think Letitia James is going after loot boxes, it's not a coincidence that it's happening around the exact same time New York just issued three gaming licenses to major casino operators.

01:23:13.000 So what they're arguing is, let me put it like this.

01:23:18.000 The first slot machines, the reason why they have cherries, lemons, and bar is because gambling was illegal.

01:23:23.000 You'd put a coin in, you'd pull the lever, it would go bar, bar, bar, and a bar of gum would fall down, a vending machine.

01:23:29.000 You would then take that bar of gun next door to a different business that purchases gum.

01:23:34.000 You'd hand them the gum, they'd hand you cash.

01:23:36.000 So that's how you were legally allowed to gamble.

01:23:38.000 It was a workaround.

01:23:39.000 Loot boxes, they're arguing, do the exact same thing as the OG slot machines.

01:23:45.000 You pay some kind of money or value that allows you to then use virtual currency or to actually spin the slot to get your rare item, which can then be sold for money to somebody.

01:23:56.000 It can be, but so can everything.

01:23:59.000 So the argument is you are wagering money not on a definitive item.

01:24:04.000 The argument she's making is it doesn't matter after the fact.

01:24:08.000 What matters is you are giving money for a chance at something, not for something.

01:24:13.000 Well, the difference here is that there's no organization that's encouraging to buy your product back from you at a profit.

01:24:19.000 So there is no like quid pro quo where you're going to go next door and sell the loot box back.

01:24:24.000 And they need to prove that these items are of actual value.

01:24:27.000 Just because some rando from China will give you $1,000 for a red hat and a video game doesn't mean that the red hat and the video game has any actual value. 0.93

01:24:34.000 And what if these gaming companies open a secondary business that purchase these items?

01:24:40.000 Oh, then shut them down. 0.88

01:24:41.000 But and they're praying off of children.

01:24:43.000 How do you prove that?

01:24:44.000 We just prove it.

01:24:45.000 I mean, is there evidence that that?

01:24:47.000 If you open a company that buys and sells secondary items on Dota.

01:24:50.000 Yeah, those are generally illegal anyway.

01:24:51.000 Like buying World of Warcraft gold with real money.

01:24:55.000 There's nothing illegal about you having a company that will buy second items on the secondary market.

01:25:00.000 Is it illegal for me to buy Magic the Gathering cards and sell them?

01:25:04.000 No.

01:25:05.000 No.

01:25:05.000 So think about the system.

01:25:07.000 But if you had a business where you were gathering away Magic Cards and then your other business was on buying them back next year.

01:25:12.000 Magic the Gathering knows there is a secondary market that drives the value of their cards for purchase, which is why they have what's called the reserve list.

01:25:20.000 Do you know what the reserve list is?

01:25:23.000 No?

01:25:23.000 Let me learn y'all something.

01:25:25.000 Booster packs are gambling.

01:25:27.000 They have never been properly adjudicated because the arguments in the 90s over Pokemon booster packs as gambling were thrown out not on the merits, but on standing, arguing that the people who exchanged money for a booster pack received a physical product.

01:25:42.000 Therefore, there's no formal gambling loss.

01:25:45.000 However, Hasbro, I believe the owners of Magic the Gathering have something called the reserve list.

01:25:51.000 These are cards they will never reprint.

01:25:53.000 And this is because there is a secondary market and these cards retain their value.

01:25:58.000 The secondary market makes their booster packs valuable and people will buy them, which guarantees the sale of booster packs.

01:26:06.000 If there is no secondary market, cards are worthless.

01:26:09.000 Print a million of them.

01:26:10.000 People can buy whatever they want.

01:26:12.000 In fact, Wizards of the Coast, Hasbro, could just offer up on their website direct sales for 50 cents.

01:26:18.000 I would like the rare card because I want to build the best deck.

01:26:21.000 Okay, you can purchase all cards for 50 cents, right?

01:26:25.000 Why not do that?

01:26:27.000 Because they probably make more money selling you a $4 booster pack with a bunch of seven cent cards in it.

01:26:31.000 Where you're hoping you will get the card that you need, and you have to buy more and more and more in the chance you might get a card that you need.

01:26:38.000 No pro player of any of these trading card games buys boosters to get the cards they need for their decks.

01:26:44.000 They buy singles directly from a card shop on the secondary market.

01:26:47.000 And the secondary market exists because Magic has created a reserve list to guarantee the price of these cards so that people will buy at random chance and then try and resell them to a shop for the secondary market.

01:26:58.000 They know exactly what they're doing.

01:27:00.000 Loot boxes are going to be found to be gambling.

01:27:02.000 The ancillary effect will be precedent.

01:27:04.000 We'll get booster packs banned as well.

01:27:06.000 And I think this is largely because casinos want to control all wagering.

01:27:10.000 That's a big, that'd be like banning baseball cards.

01:27:13.000 Agreed?

01:27:14.000 I don't think you can ban baseball cards.

01:27:16.000 The difference with baseball cards, secondary market is limited because there's no function to the baseball cards.

01:27:20.000 They're a collector's item for being collector's items.

01:27:23.000 The issue with Magic the Gathering is that players need specific cards which are in limited print, which drives up demand, guaranteeing secondary market value.

01:27:30.000 Only if you play with them.

01:27:33.000 And because standard play requires you to use the best cards and they limit the production of the best cards, meaning everybody knows this is about magic.

01:27:40.000 I can't speak for Pokemon or other card games.

01:27:42.000 The new deck comes out for standard and you want to win, $600 on the spot to buy all the cards you need.

01:27:47.000 If you don't have $600, congratulations, you are not winning tournaments.

01:27:51.000 Now, how do you get those cards?

01:27:52.000 Well, it's $600 for direct purchase.

01:27:54.000 You're not going to spend a grand on random chance packs.

01:27:58.000 So there are people who will buy boxes of boosters the moment they come out, crack them all open, hoping that they will get a slightly EV plus on their return.

01:28:09.000 And this will set the value of rarer cards that are in limited print, specifically because they know the function of the game requires people to buy that.

01:28:15.000 That's the function of gaming shop.

01:28:16.000 They do that agreed.

01:28:18.000 They'll buy boxes.

01:28:18.000 They'll open at the shop and then they'll sell them.

01:28:21.000 Card shops are illegal.

01:28:24.000 Are you saying they should be illegal?

01:28:26.000 No, they're literally illegal.

01:28:27.000 Here's the law in West Virginia.

01:28:29.000 I pulled it up.

01:28:30.000 Here it is.

01:28:31.000 West Virginia, 6110-4.

01:28:33.000 If any person bet or play at any such gaming table, bank, or device, as is mentioned in the first section, or if at any hotel, tavern, or other public place or place of public resort, he play any game except bowls, chess, or batgaming drafts or a licensed game, or bet on the sides of those who play at any game, whether the game be permitted or licensed or not, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction, shall be fined not less than five or more $100, blah, blah, blah.

01:29:02.000 The point is, there is no formal licensing of TCGs in West Virginia.

01:29:07.000 Games that are licensed are games like three-card poker at a casino, and the casino gets a license to play via Shufflemaster or otherwise.

01:29:14.000 Pokemon, Magic, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Lorcana, these other games, they are not licensed games.

01:29:19.000 The law predates the existence of these games.

01:29:22.000 I do not think they should be illegal, but the point is this.

01:29:25.000 If they go for loot boxes, which they are, they are going to attack this whole space.

01:29:30.000 And I think it's fair to say, let me put it like this.

01:29:34.000 I'm going to ask you guys a question in the comments.

01:29:35.000 Tell me if I'm wrong.

01:29:37.000 If there was a vending machine and you could walk up to it and it said, buy a Pokemon mystery box for $20, in it, you will find a card potentially worth $10 or up to $200.

01:29:51.000 You don't know what that card is going to be.

01:29:52.000 Is that gambling?

01:29:53.000 Yeah.

01:29:54.000 Here you go.

01:29:55.000 I have one right here.

01:29:56.000 This box from a vending machine at Apple Valley Mall.

01:30:00.000 I don't remember what the exact price was.

01:30:01.000 It might have been 20 or 30 bucks.

01:30:02.000 And it says on the back, one graded Pokemon card valued between $10 and $200.

01:30:09.000 Who will you discover?

01:30:10.000 Disclaimer.

01:30:10.000 Mystery pack contents vary.

01:30:12.000 Each pack contains one graded Pokemon card.

01:30:14.000 No player who needs to get the Pokemon cards for their deck is buying these for the card they need for their deck.

01:30:21.000 People are buying these in hopes that your $30 purchase will net you a $200 value.

01:30:26.000 And in fact, the card that I got is only worth $7.

01:30:30.000 What card is it?

01:30:32.000 It's Ultra Necrozma GX.

01:30:36.000 It sort of sounds like old video arcades where you'd win tickets and then the tickets aren't worth anything, but you could trade them for something.

01:30:42.000 It came in that box and it came in the plastic piece when you, the plastic protector when you bought it?

01:30:48.000 Yeah.

01:30:48.000 I mean, that right there shows that the value of the rare card or what have you is the $20 value on that.

01:30:57.000 You're not cracking this open to put in a deck.

01:30:59.000 You are not trying to get a random card to play in a deck.

01:31:01.000 It's not the purpose of it.

01:31:03.000 The collector value is the purpose.

01:31:05.000 And they sell this.

01:31:07.000 Guys, I'm sorry.

01:31:08.000 This is gambling.

01:31:09.000 Like, there is no skill involved.

01:31:12.000 It is strictly a purchase, money wagered for a chance to get a high-value prize.

01:31:17.000 It literally says between 10 and 200 bucks on the back.

01:31:21.000 Children go to the mall at Apple Valley and they gamble on this stuff.

01:31:24.000 Booster packs is gambling.

01:31:26.000 Wagering money to play a card game is gambling.

01:31:29.000 All of it is gambling under the law.

01:31:31.000 They've just operated under a gray area.

01:31:33.000 Here's my point.

01:31:35.000 Letitia James is going for these loot boxes. 1.00

01:31:37.000 Washington State is going for these loot boxes.

01:31:39.000 And I guess Washington is going after Kal Shi as well. 0.96

01:31:42.000 The reason why is because casinos are buying out land everywhere.

01:31:48.000 Miriam Adelson, one of Trump's largest donors, has been trying to get a Sans company casino, I believe it's Sans, in Texas.

01:31:57.000 I don't remember what she owns, Venetian or something.

01:32:00.000 And Texas has been blocking her. 0.95

01:32:03.000 Now, the Lodge Card Club got shut down.

01:32:05.000 And the conspiracy theory from a lot of people, and I'm not saying I believe it because I like Ken Paxton.

01:32:11.000 So the TABC shuts down the Lodge.

01:32:13.000 Ken Paxton, then a week later, flies to meet with Trump.

01:32:16.000 And now the reporting is that Trump may endorse Ken Paxton.

01:32:19.000 The conspiracy theory among poker players in Texas is that Miriam Adelson went to Trump and said, get me my casinos in Texas.

01:32:27.000 Trump said, Ken Paxton is a friend.

01:32:29.000 He'll do me a favor.

01:32:30.000 Ken Paxton goes to meet with Trump and Trump says, shut down these card rooms and get these casinos in.

01:32:37.000 Because when the casinos come and they are coming, these card rooms are competitors and we don't want it.

01:32:41.000 That's the conspiracy that I don't know necessarily is true.

01:32:44.000 But after the lodge got shut down, which is the largest card club in the world, the speculation right away was that Ken Paxton was meeting with Trump, needed the endorsement and said, what do you want from me?

01:32:53.000 And Trump said, Miriam Adelson wants casinos in Texas and wants these card rooms out of the picture so that gaming is controlled by them.

01:33:01.000 Loot boxes from Letitia James, exact same play.

01:33:04.000 Again, I'm not saying I know it's true, but I don't think it's a coincidence that they're trying to list things as gambling, which would put them solely under the control of the casinos.

01:33:12.000 Imagine this.

01:33:14.000 You want a loot box for Dota?

01:33:17.000 You got to go through Caesars first.

01:33:20.000 How do you get your new random chance skins?

01:33:22.000 Valve signs a license deal with Rivers Casino and then says the Rivers logo appears and 10% of all of the loot box spins go to Rivers because they own the permits.

01:33:32.000 I'm not saying I know it's going to happen, but it's not a coincidence that all of these states are now filing these gambling charges against a bunch of players at the same time.

01:33:40.000 Casinos are popping up everywhere.

01:33:42.000 And within two and a half hours driving of right here, there are nine casinos.

01:33:47.000 That's incredible.

01:33:48.000 It is coming.

01:33:49.000 It is taking over.

01:33:50.000 And Gen Z are gamblers like crazy. 1.00

01:33:52.000 Sports betting, online apps, live streaming.

01:33:55.000 This is the play they are making and they will own it all.

01:33:58.000 Every sports podcast I listen to is sponsored by a gambling company of some sort.

01:34:02.000 Here we go.

01:34:04.000 Yeah.

01:34:04.000 It's going to happen.

01:34:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know how this is a positive thing for society.

01:34:11.000 I don't think that people should be prevented from gambling and stuff.

01:34:14.000 But the idea that just because you're buying a, well, it's really a perversion of what was initially intended to be fun for games, right?

01:34:22.000 Kid, like Magic the Gathering and collectible card games.

01:34:25.000 It was supposed to be fun.

01:34:26.000 It was supposed to be playing.

01:34:28.000 No, no, no.

01:34:28.000 The first trading card game was gambling.

01:34:30.000 Magic the Gathering was the first trading card game ever.

01:34:32.000 And the first edition included anti, where you had to actually wager a card of value to play the game and the winner really card of value.

01:34:39.000 It was gambling outright.

01:34:41.000 And so they were forced to remove anti from the game because they were being threatened with illegal gambling.

01:34:45.000 Wasn't it still geared to kids, though?

01:34:47.000 No.

01:34:48.000 It was geared to young adults.

01:34:50.000 It was Richard Garfield was trying to make a board game that was targeting young adults, largely based on like the DD fandom and things of that nature.

01:34:57.000 But they couldn't afford a full board.

01:34:59.000 They wanted a board with cards.

01:35:00.000 So they said, just do the cards.

01:35:02.000 And it was the first trading card game ever made and explicitly included a gambling element.

01:35:07.000 There are even cards that allow you to swap your ante mid-game, which was a crazy trick.

01:35:12.000 You'd be like, I'm going to ante up a very rare card, a mocks, and they'd put up a mox.

01:35:16.000 Then mid-game, you'd draw a card and says, I'm swapping the anti-at for this dummy card.

01:35:20.000 And they'd be like, you son of a, and now even if they win, they get junk, but if you win, you get their rare, expensive card, which at the time was still only 10 bucks or whatever.

01:35:27.000 They had to get rid of that element.

01:35:28.000 You could play in the Coliseum, but it's our Coliseum.

01:35:31.000 Indeed.

01:35:32.000 And that's what's happening right now.

01:35:33.000 So I've gone to war with a bunch of 14-year-olds by claiming that Pokemon is gambling.

01:35:38.000 It's not that I actually believe Pokemon is gambling, but it's that under the law, Pokemon is gambling.

01:35:43.000 It just operates in a gray area.

01:35:45.000 To determine whether or not something is gambling, there's something called a predominant factor test in most states.

01:35:49.000 This has never been applied to loot boxes nor Pokemon Magic Lorcana or any other card game.

01:35:54.000 It has never been tested.

01:35:56.000 I believe with the expansion of these casinos, card rooms are going to start asking the question: if we own the rights to all card games where in a tournament you make a wager of cash, why don't we own this?

01:36:11.000 So what's going to get weird is that the first question I have for everybody who doubts this is, do you think the multi-billion dollar multinational corporations, being told they can win this court case, would they give up a multi-billion dollar card industry like Pokemon if they could lay claim to it?

01:36:28.000 The other question is, if, according to the law, any game, West Virginia says you can't even play a game.

01:36:36.000 Doesn't even say wager on.

01:36:37.000 It says bet or play.

01:36:38.000 In Texas, it says wager money on a game of chance for a chance to win prizes.

01:36:44.000 Do you believe that the casinos will not try and get the predominant factor test placed on these games?

01:36:50.000 I believe the answer is absolutely they will.

01:36:52.000 What's going to happen is they are going to make the argument, these children have a card game.

01:36:57.000 They are putting money forward, playing a card game of chance.

01:37:01.000 They've not determined how much chance.

01:37:03.000 It's just chance to win cash prizes.

01:37:05.000 We have the exclusive permit in this state for that function.

01:37:10.000 And if the state allows that function to exist outside a casino, the court, the casinos could lose future cases.

01:37:17.000 This is exactly what I've been working on with various AGs and discussing with them about.

01:37:21.000 If Pokemon Yu-Gi-Oh! Magic allow tournaments where children will put money up front, play a card game, and then win cash, this is threatening the exclusivity that casinos have over other card games like Hold'em, Pot Limit Omaha, et cetera.

01:37:34.000 The casinos absolutely will try to take this or at least get it banned.

01:37:38.000 I wonder how long that is before that happens in professional sports because you even watch a baseball game now and they're giving you betting lines and things throughout an entire game.

01:37:46.000 The casinos already own it.

01:37:46.000 Yeah, but hold on.

01:37:48.000 If you want to make a sports bet, it's either through their casino app or in a casino.

01:37:52.000 They don't allow a random person to open a sports book down the street.

01:37:56.000 Would a casino allow a guy to open a cafe that allows sports betting?

01:38:01.000 Absolutely not.

01:38:03.000 So the question then is, will casino.

01:38:05.000 So the thing is, when card games started expanding across the country, casinos were not anywhere.

01:38:09.000 They were on reservations and in Vegas and Atlantic City.

01:38:12.000 Now that states are saying you can open a casino in the city and state proper, regulated by the state, are they going to just say you can wager on card games, card games, any card game outside of our facility?

01:38:24.000 No.

01:38:25.000 And the big issue for me is the reason why this is going to happen.

01:38:27.000 Again, loot boxes being a big play on this one.

01:38:29.000 They're going to remove it.

01:38:30.000 They're going to lose.

01:38:31.000 I guarantee it.

01:38:32.000 And then the thing about card games is the reason I think the casinos will make this play is because of a card game called Bellatro.

01:38:37.000 Do you guys know what that is?

01:38:38.000 I haven't.

01:38:39.000 And how would you describe it?

01:38:40.000 It's like, well, it's 52-card poker, but it's not poker.

01:38:46.000 But you want to make poker hands with your hand of 12 or 10 and you get rares and wilds that can change the so there are some cards and then poker cards.

01:38:53.000 They've combined the two.

01:38:54.000 Jokers give you all sorts of random abilities.

01:38:55.000 Is it chance or skill?

01:38:57.000 Both.

01:38:58.000 It's a poker variant.

01:39:00.000 It is a poker variant that uses extra cards.

01:39:02.000 That is regulated by casinos.

01:39:05.000 Why are you allowed to play it outside of a casino?

01:39:07.000 That game particularly?

01:39:08.000 Because it's single player.

01:39:09.000 There's no money being traded.

01:39:10.000 There's multiplayer.

01:39:11.000 I've never played a multiplayer version of it.

01:39:11.000 There's tournaments.

01:39:13.000 Well, then maybe there's not, but there's tournaments.

01:39:15.000 So however they play.

01:39:16.000 But again, the restrictions on Balatro are specifically because they try to avoid falling into gambling territory.

01:39:22.000 The question then is: if the predominant factor test needs to be applied to the existing popular card games like Pokemon, it has never been done.

01:39:32.000 The argument by Pokemon fans is that it is a skill game, not a chance game.

01:39:37.000 And because it is a skill game, it is not gambling.

01:39:40.000 However, no one has ever tested this.

01:39:42.000 In fact, I asked Grok and Chat GPT and it argued Pokemon, Magic Gathering, and Yu-Gi-Oh have greater chance involved because of a greater draw.

01:39:52.000 Two separate decks, 120 cards or more with seven cards drawn between each player increase substantially more variance than a poker game.

01:40:00.000 That's kind of true.

01:40:01.000 Exactly.

01:40:02.000 One guy's deck is way better.

01:40:04.000 That's also chance.

01:40:05.000 He's got a huge likelihood of winning.

01:40:07.000 Chance is defined as what a player can control.

01:40:09.000 And if you can't control the cards the other player has, that is legally gambling.

01:40:14.000 It's a question they ask when it comes to the predominant factor test.

01:40:16.000 So the issue is: if I invent a new card game and we start playing it and it's an entry fee, how will casinos control for gambling if I can just keep creating new card games with new names and new variables so that I can keep wagering money on a game of skill?

01:40:35.000 The casinos are going to say no to this.

01:40:38.000 And they are dumping tons of money to win this war.

01:40:42.000 I don't want to consolidate power up into the casinos' hands.

01:40:46.000 I think it's a good idea.

01:40:46.000 Should gambling be allowed?

01:40:48.000 Gambling be allowed?

01:40:50.000 Should it be just like gambling?

01:40:51.000 Should be gambling is a part of nature.

01:40:54.000 Should people be allowed to legally just have poker games and cash games wherever they want, whenever they want?

01:40:59.000 No.

01:41:00.000 What do you think?

01:41:01.000 That's pretty normal.

01:41:02.000 You know, people always did poker games.

01:41:04.000 But it's legal.

01:41:04.000 I don't know.

01:41:04.000 My dad always did it.

01:41:06.000 Sure, but go to a Lions club or something.

01:41:08.000 They play poker at the beef steak or whatever.

01:41:10.000 It's pretty culturally normal.

01:41:12.000 But I'm saying, should it be legalized?

01:41:13.000 And if you think it's culturally normal and everyone does it, should we just say down with the laws?

01:41:17.000 Casinos should not have exclusivity on this?

01:41:19.000 The problem is children getting wrapped into gambling and pressing a button just for waiting until they get their dopamine fix.

01:41:25.000 That's what this lawsuit's about.

01:41:26.000 But they're going to have to prove the thing about their social media from that, too.

01:41:30.000 You could regulate social media more for that, too, because you pull down your Twitter feed.

01:41:30.000 Yeah, really.

01:41:34.000 It's just like gambling.

01:41:35.000 You're not spending money for that.

01:41:37.000 And you're not winning cash prizes.

01:41:38.000 Sure.

01:41:39.000 So I think we're going to, I think a nuclear bomb is about to drop.

01:41:43.000 I think the closure of the lodge in Texas has just set a bunch of high net worth people on edge.

01:41:49.000 And as soon as this goes into courts, it's going to spark off a Tinderbox involving video games like Dota, games like Pokemon, and the mass expansion of casinos across the country.

01:42:00.000 And it's going to get real crazy real quick.

01:42:03.000 It'd been going hard on loot boxes for a little while.

01:42:05.000 At Belgium, they banned them.

01:42:06.000 Really?

01:42:07.000 When you spend money on a video game to get jewels that you can spend to get cosmetic gear, okay, whatever.

01:42:14.000 If you can sell that cosmetic gear in game for money, it's not a lot of times it's not just cosmetic gear.

01:42:20.000 It's gear.

01:42:21.000 It's like pay to win.

01:42:22.000 So let me let me.

01:42:24.000 I have a mobile game.

01:42:26.000 I have a mobile game on my phone that has tournaments with cash prizes.

01:42:30.000 In order to build the best setup, they're basically decks, but it's not a card game.

01:42:34.000 You get cards, and cards give you a strong team.

01:42:38.000 It's like an RPG kind of.

01:42:39.000 You have little guys that battle other little guys.

01:42:42.000 You've got to buy gems, which are very expensive, to get boosters, which will give you one guy.

01:42:48.000 To level up one guy, you need three cards.

01:42:52.000 There's like 60 different guys.

01:42:53.000 So the chance of getting that guy are extremely difficult.

01:42:56.000 And it's a ridiculously and psychotically expensive game to get to the highest bracket and actually win tournaments.

01:43:01.000 It's just gambling.

01:43:03.000 And then you can win money.

01:43:04.000 Tournaments have cash prizes.

01:43:06.000 Yep.

01:43:07.000 I never play any of that stuff.

01:43:08.000 I just literally have little dudes fight each other and I don't really play that often.

01:43:10.000 No, that is like aiming gambling at children.

01:43:13.000 That is, that's a problem.

01:43:16.000 Yep.

01:43:16.000 So anyway, the point of back to the card games, what's coming after the loot boxes is they're probably going.

01:43:23.000 So here's why I think they're going to win.

01:43:25.000 With the Pokemon booster pack thing in the 90s, the courts argued the individuals, actually, this article talks about it.

01:43:32.000 They say in the 90s and 2000s, many plaintiffs sued trading card manufacturers under RICO laws.

01:43:36.000 All of the cases were dismissed for lack of standing because the plaintiffs could not prove an injury.

01:43:40.000 They had received the benefit of the bargain.

01:43:42.000 By receiving physical cards in exchange for the money they paid, they did not suffer a gambling loss.

01:43:47.000 These cases did not rule on the merits of whether trading card packs fall under the definition of gambling.

01:43:51.000 So it's not been adjudicated.

01:43:53.000 However, Letitia James, as a representative of state law and criminality, is arguing they are violating state law or facilitating the violation of criminal law.

01:44:04.000 Thus, she has standing to sue.

01:44:06.000 They're going to win.

01:44:08.000 I don't know.

01:44:09.000 Opening the packs isn't gambling, in my opinion.

01:44:12.000 But buying a pack to use in a competition that you can win money for is.

01:44:17.000 Buying a pack is gambling because you're getting random cards of various values.

01:44:21.000 It's been like that since baseball cards in the 50s.

01:44:23.000 Baseball cards don't have a secondary market function.

01:44:25.000 They're collectibles.

01:44:26.000 They do have a secondary market function.

01:44:27.000 You can sell a game today.

01:44:30.000 You can't play a game.

01:44:31.000 There's no function.

01:44:31.000 Exactly.

01:44:33.000 I said secondary market function.

01:44:35.000 Magic does.

01:44:36.000 A pro player needs that card.

01:44:39.000 I need a time twister for my commander deck.

01:44:42.000 So someone wants to buy that to speculate upon it to sell to the players who must have it.

01:44:47.000 So when I want to build a new deck, I need these cards.

01:44:50.000 I go to a shop and say, I want to buy singles.

01:44:53.000 I don't buy booster packs.

01:44:54.000 He then says $10, $20, $30.

01:44:57.000 That's based on the scarcity that was manufactured by the card company.

01:45:01.000 So there are people when the Avatar, Final Fantasy, great example.

01:45:06.000 The collector's boosters, they are specifically ultra-rare versions.

01:45:10.000 And if you want the serialized ultra-rare chocobos, I've got a blue neon chocobo behind me.

01:45:16.000 It's like a $5,000, $3,000 to $5,000 card.

01:45:19.000 The only way to get it is to buy the $40 booster pack.

01:45:23.000 No one's going to play with that card.

01:45:25.000 It exists solely to be a rare and valuable item, but it's valuable because the function of the game utilizes these cards.

01:45:33.000 So someone bought up all of the collector boxes and a box which normally should sell for $300,040 sold for $1,200.

01:45:42.000 It's gambling.

01:45:44.000 It's buying a pack, cracking it open, and hoping you get that very valuable card.

01:45:49.000 That $5,000 card costs them three cents.

01:45:52.000 Of course.

01:45:52.000 That company is raking it in hand over fist, selling garbage to people, pieces of paper with ink on it.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, take them down. 1.00

01:45:59.000 I'm done with that bullshit, dude. 0.99

01:46:01.000 You can't, you can't play the rules. 1.00

01:46:03.000 I'll put it like this.

01:46:04.000 If it was a skill game, you would be able to go to their website and buy whatever card you wanted for 50 cents.

01:46:12.000 You would say, I'm going to select all the cards I need for my skill deck.

01:46:15.000 Like, imagine if a queen in chess cost $7,000.

01:46:20.000 And in order to play chess, you had to have certified chess-approved pieces.

01:46:24.000 And you'd sit down with only pawns and be like, well, I can't afford the $7,000 queen.

01:46:28.000 It's an ultra-rare, expensive card.

01:46:29.000 That's exactly what Magic the Gathering is.

01:46:31.000 Indeed, and Pokemon and all of them.

01:46:33.000 So it's not skill-based games.

01:46:37.000 You can't control what the opponent plays with.

01:46:39.000 You play chess.

01:46:40.000 You know the opponent's got the same pieces as you.

01:46:42.000 You play Magic the Gathering.

01:46:43.000 Ian, do you think you could build a deck that could take on one of my high-tier decks?

01:46:48.000 Not without $8,000 or $6,000.

01:46:51.000 My $20,000 Magic the Gathering deck with Time Twister in.

01:46:54.000 Super tough, dude.

01:46:55.000 It would be really tough.

01:46:56.000 Just because I have the money to buy the ultra-rare cards that exist and they're rare because Magic has a reserved list.

01:47:01.000 They intentionally control the prices so that people buy the booster packs, hoping to get high-value cards to sell after the fact.

01:47:08.000 Gambling.

01:47:08.000 And so if they got rid of booster packs completely and they only sold singles, they could still make rare singles that you would have to spend 80 bucks on to win a tournament.

01:47:17.000 It still feels like pay to win, though.

01:47:19.000 It wouldn't be gambling in the speech.

01:47:20.000 Imagine if on the website, rares were $10, uncommons were $3, and commons were $1.

01:47:25.000 And if you wanted to build the best deck possible, you still had to spend a little bit extra money, but that wouldn't work because then you're basically, again, making pay to win and only the rich people can afford the stronger decks.

01:47:34.000 So maybe everybody's deck has to have a cap, a value cap, like in World In Warhammer.

01:47:39.000 Everybody's army has to have a value cap.

01:47:41.000 You can't hit one army.

01:47:42.000 This is why in Magic right now, everyone's playing with proxies.

01:47:45.000 For those that know what that means, it means they take a random, they'll print a card out.

01:47:49.000 They will print an uncertified version of the card to use to play with because they want to play with strong decks, but they don't have $20,000 to buy the ultra-rare cards.

01:47:59.000 I've been playing with proxies for 30 years.

01:48:02.000 We're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chats, my friend.

01:48:05.000 So smash the like button, share the show with every single person you have ever met, literally ever.

01:48:09.000 You got an old high school teacher you haven't talked to in 30 years.

01:48:12.000 Give him a call, find him on LinkedIn or whatever you got to do and be like, watch this show.

01:48:15.000 And then you find out he's a raging liberal and he yells at you and you never talk to him again.

01:48:19.000 In the meantime, we're going to grab your comments here.

01:48:22.000 So let's get at it, my friends.

01:48:26.000 Joshua French says, oh, he's not happy with you, Ian, but I'm going to read it. 1.00

01:48:30.000 Ian, are you ignorant or just stupid? 1.00

01:48:33.000 You should not name the Kirk children. 1.00

01:48:35.000 Too many psychos listen to this and now have a name to target.

01:48:37.000 I don't know.

01:48:38.000 Public info.

01:48:39.000 Charlie's talked about her quite a bit.

01:48:40.000 The name is everywhere.

01:48:42.000 And so I do kind of agree, but Charlie's children's names are like every 17th post on X. If you Google Charlie Kirk and family, they list the names of their children.

01:48:56.000 It's not particularly like Charlie posted photos with their names and everything.

01:49:00.000 You better believe that if her name was not public, I never would have mentioned it.

01:49:02.000 Yeah.

01:49:04.000 Fiakono says, Tim, if the bullet is too deformed from impact, they would be unable to match it to any gun.

01:49:09.000 It doesn't mean it's not from the same gun, just they can't positively confirm it.

01:49:13.000 It happens a lot.

01:49:14.000 Indeed, that's the point. 0.99

01:49:17.000 Shotgun Rebel says Japanese X algorithm kicks ass. 0.99

01:49:20.000 I completely agree. 0.97

01:49:21.000 And as an American who is 5% Japanese, born and raised here, I volunteer as ambassador on X to bring the Japanese, and I'm kidding, by the way, way more Japanese people than me who are American as well. 0.87

01:49:34.000 But everyone's having a good time.

01:49:36.000 All the Japanese, like apparently, Japan, the Japanese are adopting X like crazy. 1.00

01:49:40.000 Yeah.

01:49:41.000 And the algorithm is auto-translating Japanese posts into English for American people in the algorithm when the content aligns and everyone's laughing and having a lot of fun.

01:49:50.000 Talking about barbecue.

01:49:52.000 Lots of barbecue talk.

01:49:52.000 Barbecue?

01:49:54.000 There's a Japanese schoolgirl dressed like Trump doing the Trump dance that's going viral and everyone's laughing and they love it.

01:49:54.000 Oh, right.

01:50:01.000 Yep.

01:50:02.000 I was enjoying the cultural exchange all weekend.

01:50:02.000 Me.

01:50:07.000 A lot of fun.

01:50:09.000 507 says, we aren't Rome.

01:50:10.000 We're Carthage pretending to be Rome.

01:50:12.000 Wow.

01:50:14.000 That's a mind-bender.

01:50:18.000 All right.

01:50:19.000 The Republic boss says the current deep state does act like the Praetorian Guard.

01:50:22.000 If they do not get their bribes, they JFK you and install a new emperor.

01:50:27.000 Well, the trope I made during the last election, that if the Praetorian Prefects, the guy that was in charge of the Praetorian Guard, and they would kind of do whatever he wanted, and Obama, with the way that they were deciding, you know, who the next president was going to be just by naming her, to me, seemed like he was trying to control the powers of state like a Praetorian Prefect.

01:50:45.000 So I think in a lot of ways, you could say that there is something deciding who is president and who gets to live.

01:50:50.000 Christian UNC says with the next Mass Effect in production by BioWare, do you think they will try to go back to its roots that made everyone fall in love with it or go woke?

01:50:59.000 And could it happen with the TV series too?

01:51:01.000 Woke, for sure.

01:51:02.000 The fact that Jonathan Frakes and William Shatner defended Starfleet Academy shows you that even your heroes will spit in your face. 0.90

01:51:11.000 Gross. 0.83

01:51:12.000 Yep. 0.96

01:51:12.000 I fell out of it. 0.96

01:51:14.000 Shatner and Frakes both said the same thing about Starfleet Academy.

01:51:16.000 They were like, ah, they called Next Generation woke.

01:51:19.000 And, you know, not woke, but they were offended.

01:51:22.000 Like, how could you change the cast?

01:51:24.000 Who are these people?

01:51:25.000 It seems so plastic.

01:51:27.000 And then, of course, TNG became substantially more popular.

01:51:29.000 It was the highest rated television show at the time, syndicated on three networks.

01:51:33.000 Starfleet Academy makes a mockery of it all.

01:51:36.000 It does not present social issues the way Next Generation or the original series did.

01:51:41.000 It makes them a joke and insults them and insults the stories, the character, the lore.

01:51:46.000 It ruins everything.

01:51:48.000 If Frakes and Shatner could not stand up for this and they can't because they're attached to it, then what hope does Mass Effect have?

01:51:57.000 They're going to wear your culture like a skin suit, and then they're going to pull their pants down and take a dump on the floor. 1.00

01:52:02.000 I mean, the argument that they're not going to, like, the evidence is basically the past 10 years, right?

01:52:08.000 Like, every property has had, you know, woke basically touch it and ruin it, whether it be Star Wars, the Marvel stuff was good for a few years, and then it all became Star Wars.

01:52:19.000 Yeah, they ruined it.

01:52:21.000 There's only a handful of good Star Wars properties that were, or storylines that came out in the past.

01:52:27.000 Acolyte was, the reviews are horrible.

01:52:30.000 Lesbian Space Switches created the Force. 1.00

01:52:30.000 Awful. 1.00

01:52:32.000 The Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan Kenobi was terrible. 0.63

01:52:35.000 It's absolutely horrible.

01:52:37.000 And they had like, they had, you know, actually the guy that played Obi-Wan Kenobi, they had, I forget what his name is off the top of my head.

01:52:43.000 Ewan McGregor.

01:52:44.000 Ewan McGregor was in the series.

01:52:46.000 They actually had Darth Vader in it.

01:52:48.000 They had Anakin Skywalker.

01:52:51.000 It was still terrible.

01:52:52.000 If they created a new Star Trek on the new Enterprise with a new cast that were relatively reasonable, pragmatic individuals, it was following, maybe you couldn't do 80 years after the Dominion War.

01:53:08.000 You could do such incredible things with that storyline.

01:53:12.000 The story was opened up so massively after Deep Space Nine, and they burned it all to the ground because they, you know, I think it's largely our fault because we need to step up more and take command of these things.

01:53:23.000 But the truth is, the woke psychopath cultists, whatever, infiltrated intentionally to destroy these cultural icons.

01:53:31.000 So I would love to write a Star Trek series that is maybe 80 years after the next generation.

01:53:38.000 And the Alpha Quadrant is largely united under a loose federation.

01:53:42.000 The Federation has an active alliance, the Klingons, the Romulans, the Cardassians, and they are now advancing technology into the Gamma and Delta and other quadrants of the galaxy, which introduces old foes and new foes.

01:53:56.000 But you could see the advancement from the original series to the next generation, the next generation, Voyager and Deep Space Nine into the next era.

01:54:02.000 Instead, they just keep prequel, prequel, prequel, and then weird woke garbage. 0.92

01:54:06.000 And then we're a thousand years in the future and everyone's gay or something. 0.99

01:54:09.000 Not interested.

01:54:11.000 What if they call it the D-Federation? 0.82

01:54:13.000 You notice that.

01:54:14.000 Okay, let's read this.

01:54:15.000 We got this from Tri Jim.

01:54:16.000 He says, I think Candace Owens is attacking Erica Kirk because Erica is a good person. 0.99

01:54:20.000 If the crucifixion happened today, Candace would be criticizing the Virgin Mary on how she reacted to her son's death. 1.00

01:54:25.000 Oh, yikes.

01:54:27.000 I don't know if it's that, though.

01:54:28.000 I think it's more that she gets clicks, she gets visibility, and that's what she's looking for.

01:54:33.000 Same old man says, by that logic, going on blind dates are gambling.

01:54:36.000 You still pay for the date, but don't know if you're getting anything good.

01:54:39.000 Well, the argument there is you're basically saying that the sex is a monetary value.

01:54:46.000 My.

01:54:48.000 That's it.

01:54:48.000 If the argument is you are paying money for a chance to be with a woman who will hook up with you, you are implying that the hooking up has cash equivalent value and that you are making a wager on something that you will get something of equal value or greater value.

01:55:08.000 You know, you're always just negotiating the price, I guess.

01:55:12.000 I gamble with my low fuel light a lot.

01:55:15.000 There you go.

01:55:17.000 All right.

01:55:20.000 Michael Jones says, speaking of brands, Tim, how does it feel to have the Tim Cast car featured in NASCAR 25?

01:55:26.000 Talk about Epic.

01:55:27.000 We actually have the game up there.

01:55:28.000 Shout out to Cody Dennison.

01:55:30.000 Absolutely incredible.

01:55:33.000 It's really, really cool.

01:55:34.000 Yeah.

01:55:34.000 Shout out.

01:55:36.000 He's done a few races, but full disclosure, we have not sponsored Cody again for this year.

01:55:41.000 And this has to do more with, I don't know, reallocating budgets and marketing and things like that.

01:55:49.000 And I suppose when we're looking at setting up satellite studios, truth be told, Cody's fantastic, big fan, good friend, and we're happy to have sponsored him for the past couple of years.

01:56:00.000 But now we're allocating budget towards building satellite studios.

01:56:02.000 So we're looking at other places.

01:56:04.000 And that means no sponsorship this time around.

01:56:08.000 But it was fun while it lasted.

01:56:09.000 And we might do something small.

01:56:11.000 But, you know, that means for the past two years, because of the game, we got featured in the game, which is incredible.

01:56:15.000 So best of luck to Cody.

01:56:18.000 We are trying to figure out how to get other people to invest to team up with us so that we can pool money and then do a sponsorship.

01:56:24.000 Pool money.

01:56:25.000 I got to be honest.

01:56:26.000 Pool money.

01:56:27.000 I think.

01:56:28.000 Wow, that's a good name.

01:56:29.000 Pool money?

01:56:30.000 Yeah.

01:56:30.000 Pool water.

01:56:31.000 Indeed.

01:56:32.000 I think the economy's in trouble.

01:56:35.000 You think?

01:56:36.000 Well, look, young people are sour on Trump over the economy.

01:56:38.000 Gas out here is now $4.

01:56:40.000 Have you guys seen it?

01:56:41.000 Yeah.

01:56:42.000 $389.99.

01:56:42.000 Yeah.

01:56:43.000 Houses out of reach slightly.

01:56:45.000 $3.89 and $3.99, not $389.99.

01:56:49.000 Wasn't the average home buyer in New York State, I think, was like $55 or something like that now.

01:56:54.000 There are houses out here that are like three-bedroom bungalows and they're all half a million dollars.

01:56:54.000 Yeah.

01:56:58.000 And I'm like, bro, we're in a rural area.

01:57:00.000 These are starter homes.

01:57:01.000 Like a young person who bought a house out here, oh, it's happening.

01:57:05.000 It's happening.

01:57:06.000 Remember when I was talking about how we would have, you'd like be in your middle of nowhere and you'd wake up in the middle of the night and there'd be like a guy in a flannel shirt with his, tucked into his jeans, with suspenders on and a handlebar mustache stealing one of your chickens?

01:57:19.000 I was like, that's when you know it's getting bad.

01:57:22.000 Yeah, I mean, well, we were driving in rural West Virginia, and I saw exactly this man mowing the lawn of a dilapidated old house.

01:57:32.000 And I looked at my wife and I was like, it's happening.

01:57:35.000 The hipsters from the city have no choice but to move to the rural areas. 0.99

01:57:39.000 That's true, but at least he's working.

01:57:40.000 He wasn't robbing.

01:57:41.000 He's moving on.

01:57:42.000 Thankfully.

01:57:43.000 Honestly.

01:57:43.000 On his own lawn.

01:57:45.000 All right.

01:57:46.000 We got port number three.

01:57:47.000 It says, I'm fleeing Washington State for West Virginia.

01:57:49.000 Looking to bring good money and voting practices to West Virginia to keep it red.

01:57:53.000 Maybe you remember me offering to design a display case for that Civil War flag.

01:57:56.000 Indeed.

01:57:57.000 We never got the Civil War flag, though, because someone offered to allow us to hold this massive Civil War flag, and we were like, dude, we cannot be responsible for an original flag like that.

01:58:06.000 Yeah, yeah, it wasn't ours.

01:58:07.000 And they were like, you can hold on to it.

01:58:08.000 And I'm like, ooh.

01:58:10.000 Yeah, right.

01:58:11.000 We had to get it framed.

01:58:12.000 It was huge.

01:58:13.000 Yeah.

01:58:15.000 All right.

01:58:18.000 Let's.

01:58:19.000 Oh, we got a bunch of big super chats here.

01:58:22.000 Kevin Hunt says, so you're saying if Jack Rubenstein didn't get Lehari Oswald, you would want Oswald guilty no matter what?

01:58:29.000 Not skeptics or facts and say that's accusing Jackie.

01:58:33.000 I have no idea what the point you're trying to make is.

01:58:35.000 It wasn't Jackie.

01:58:37.000 Okay.

01:58:38.000 What if lone dual citizen planted the rifle? 0.99

01:58:41.000 Was it tested for having been shot?

01:58:42.000 My cell phone has DNA.

01:58:44.000 I'm one hour behind chat and drunk. 0.98

01:58:46.000 I'll shut up.

01:58:49.000 We shall see how it plays out. 0.85

01:58:50.000 Good to question.

01:58:51.000 Why there is no video or dogs didn't find till the FBI.

01:58:55.000 Hey, brother.

01:58:56.000 We all been there.

01:58:59.000 If Lehari Oswald hadn't been killed by Jack Ruby, that he would have gone to trial.

01:59:03.000 Maybe he would have exposed some other people planting a rifle.

01:59:07.000 You never know.

01:59:08.000 It's a very weird story.

01:59:09.000 He was eating lunch in the building when they found him.

01:59:11.000 He's like, I'm a Patsy.

01:59:12.000 What are you guys doing?

01:59:13.000 Haven't you ever seen that show, that Stephen King show with James Franco and he goes back in time?

01:59:19.000 Yeah.

01:59:20.000 What is that called again?

01:59:21.000 That was basically just propaganda because they were like, when he saves JFK from dying, the world ends.

01:59:26.000 Oh, yes.

01:59:27.000 He comes back to the future and it's like, if JK lives, the world ends.

01:59:30.000 We're watching that in Florida. 1.00

01:59:30.000 He has to die. 1.00

01:59:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:59:32.000 And then he tries like hooking up with that old lady, but she keeps dying. 0.99

01:59:36.000 Oh, that's brutal.

01:59:37.000 And he goes and dances with her.

01:59:38.000 That's pretty cool.

01:59:39.000 When she's old.

01:59:44.000 Let's see.

01:59:45.000 Gob Stomper says Valve is being sued because they beat a patent troll Rothschild.

01:59:50.000 If they wanted to sue over loot boxes, why not Epic Game Store Activision?

01:59:54.000 Because all they need is precedent.

01:59:55.000 They don't need to sue everybody.

01:59:57.000 You sue one where you feel you're going to win.

02:00:00.000 When you do, you then have court precedent to shut everyone else down.

02:00:04.000 Put them all on notice.

02:00:05.000 Loot boxes alone are not enough.

02:00:05.000 This is the thing.

02:00:08.000 There's different types of loot boxes.

02:00:09.000 There's loot boxes that give you only cosmetic stuff that don't change your gameplay.

02:00:12.000 There's loot boxes that give you items that can easily all be sold in the secondary market.

02:00:16.000 No, some of them can't be traded over.

02:00:17.000 All right, I'm talking about these ones that she's suing against. 0.99

02:00:19.000 But then there are some like this.

02:00:20.000 It's really about the secondary market trading that's the problem, not the loot boxes themselves.

02:00:27.000 Yep.

02:00:28.000 When Hasbro maintains a reserve list to maintain the price of cards in the secondary market, then they know what they're doing.

02:00:35.000 And if they're taking a cut, that's a rip that.

02:00:38.000 Is Pokemon Wizards as well?

02:00:40.000 It's Nintendo, right?

02:00:41.000 That I don't know.

02:00:46.000 Pokemon.

02:00:47.000 Oh, wait, This is interesting.

02:00:50.000 It was.

02:00:51.000 Wizards of the Coast was contracted to publish and distribute Pokemon until 2003.

02:00:57.000 And then, I guess...

02:01:00.000 Nintendo?

02:01:00.000 They had 33% of that.

02:01:01.000 They translated Japanese cards and managed marketing in the U.S., but did not create the IP.

02:01:07.000 I see three companies.

02:01:09.000 Nintendo Game Freaking Creatures owned the franchise.

02:01:11.000 Wizard of the Coast only held a license until 2003, after which the Pokemon company took it over directly.

02:01:18.000 All right.

02:01:20.000 And I think it's fair to argue that the Pokemon company knows full well the value of their cards and how insane people go to try and buy them.

02:01:27.000 Like, come on, man.

02:01:27.000 Yeah.

02:01:29.000 No, it's not a secret to them.

02:01:33.000 What do we got here?

02:01:34.000 What's uh what is this?

02:01:38.000 King Salami says your skateboard's chance to get numbered is gambling.

02:01:43.000 That's the point.

02:01:46.000 That's the argument.

02:01:47.000 My argument is it is not actually gambling the whole time.

02:01:51.000 That's been the point I'm making.

02:01:53.000 When I tweeted out Pokemon's Gambling, I'm saying if all of these things, including chance, make it gambling, then literally all of these things are gambling.

02:02:01.000 That's why I think they should be allowed because they're not.

02:02:03.000 The skateboard thing is not gambling because no matter what, you're getting the value that you pay for with a skateboard of economic.

02:02:08.000 And there's no secondary market for the serialized boards.

02:02:11.000 Like, who's buying those from you?

02:02:13.000 It's just for you.

02:02:15.000 Is there someone out there that's like the Timcast limited edition number one board is worth a million dollars?

02:02:19.000 No.

02:02:20.000 Oh, but even if there's a secondary market, it's not a gamble because you're still getting the value you pay for.

02:02:24.000 You're not, there's nothing.

02:02:26.000 That was the argument made on booster packs that we read.

02:02:29.000 But those cards are worth six cents each.

02:02:31.000 So they're not.

02:02:32.000 That's the rebuttal to that would be not every booster pack gives you $4.50.

02:02:36.000 Oh, that's a fair point.

02:02:36.000 Yeah, with the skateboards, you're guaranteed a skateboard at the value of a skateboard.

02:02:40.000 Five of them are limited gold.

02:02:42.000 There's no secondary market to sell those skateboards on.

02:02:45.000 There's no demand for those skateboards as value.

02:02:47.000 It's just a special version you might get.

02:02:49.000 All of the boards are basically designed as art pieces, with some being slightly better than others.

02:02:54.000 But each and every one of them is valued at the exact same price.

02:02:58.000 Unless there's a secondary market where someone determines that those one of fives are worth so much more money, which doesn't exist and there's no demand for, then no matter what, you are getting a skateboard that is valued as a skateboard.

02:03:11.000 The thing that Ian's pointing out, which is good, which is interesting, is that when you spend five bucks on a booster pack, you get cards that are worth zero.

02:03:17.000 You could open that pack and get cards that are worth zero.

02:03:20.000 And you're just like, it's literally throwing the garbage.

02:03:22.000 Five cents or less.

02:03:24.000 I mean, they're all worth zero.

02:03:25.000 Like, honestly, if you open a booster pack on average and then ask the shop, will they give you any trade-in value for it?

02:03:31.000 They'll say no.

02:03:32.000 Yeah.

02:03:32.000 Harder to get rid of those things.

02:03:34.000 Yep.

02:03:34.000 And so what happens is people donate commons and uncommons in big boxes to the shops that they can sell as singles for like 10 cents.

02:03:41.000 The secondary market argument is dangerous because if some random guy wants to create a secondary market for a product that I've been delivering, and now all of a sudden I'm treated like a gambling salesman because some guy wants me out of business and created a secondary market.

02:03:56.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:03:56.000 But the argument is you knowingly exploiting this by not letting people buy your product directly, but a chance to hit your product.

02:04:04.000 Yeah.

02:04:04.000 Because you know that someone will buy something of value.

02:04:07.000 Your booster packs might be on their way out.

02:04:09.000 I agree.

02:04:10.000 And if these games really, like, let's be honest, a game of skill like chess doesn't require you to buy a $7,000 queen.

02:04:16.000 Could you imagine, like, I said this already, you're playing chess with someone and they have 10 queens and they're like, well, I can afford it.

02:04:21.000 And you're like, that's $70,000.

02:04:23.000 I can't afford that.

02:04:24.000 And they're like, well, you know, then don't play.

02:04:26.000 Well, the rule is you can only have four of any individual piece.

02:04:29.000 So I have four queens and four rooks and four knights.

02:04:34.000 And you're going to be like, okay, well, I can't afford those pieces.

02:04:37.000 That's insane, right?

02:04:38.000 And then to get them, you got to crack open a box and randomly hope there's a queen in there.

02:04:42.000 But there's only, they only printed 100 of these queens out of the 3 million pieces that were made.

02:04:48.000 Like, that's an insane game.

02:04:49.000 Then if you are a top chess player, you're like, I want to buy a queen.

02:04:54.000 It's like, there's only 100 in existence and there's 10,000 people who want to be top tier.

02:04:58.000 It's a $500,000 piece.

02:05:00.000 And then they'll reprint the queens and you spend $500,000 on a queen.

02:05:04.000 Three months later, it's worth $20,000.

02:05:06.000 No, they put on the reserve list and say, we'll never remake Queensland.

02:05:08.000 Hopefully.

02:05:09.000 But a lot of those cards, they'll be aware of that.

02:05:10.000 That's TCGs.

02:05:11.000 That's what's insane.

02:05:12.000 It's a skill game.

02:05:13.000 Yeah, that I have to hopefully get a random chance to get the cards to win the skill game.

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02:05:40.000 Dude, I could have talked about just Rome for like two hours straight.

02:05:44.000 Maybe we'll touch on it.

02:05:45.000 Card games are over my head.

02:05:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

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02:07:47.000 Chess-inspired video game.

02:07:50.000 Actually, this is actually really cool.

02:07:52.000 I should play this.

02:07:53.000 I've been interested to play this.

02:07:54.000 Did you play Bellatro?

02:07:55.000 We were.

02:07:55.000 No.

02:07:56.000 It's not multiplayer?

02:07:57.000 I haven't.

02:07:58.000 I don't think so.

02:07:59.000 I'll double check.

02:08:00.000 Because I was reading about tournaments.

02:08:02.000 That's fun.

02:08:03.000 Sorry, you were saying something cool there.

02:08:06.000 Yeah, of course it is.

02:08:07.000 Pilatro's multiplayer?

02:08:09.000 There's a 1v, there's a mod for 1v1 versus multiplayer.

02:08:13.000 Really?

02:08:14.000 Yeah, it's a card game that mixes trading cards.

02:08:17.000 You have game cards with poker cards?

02:08:20.000 All the jokers have wild abilities.

02:08:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:08:23.000 It's game of the year. 0.90

02:08:24.000 This game's fucking awesome, but it got kind of boring playing alone. 0.98

02:08:27.000 You're playing up against a computer, and every round, it's more challenging score you got to get. 0.98

02:08:31.000 And then, like, I'll make my three of a kinds worth more with this rare.

02:08:34.000 So then you're looking to get three of a kinds, and maybe your three of a kind beats of Royal Flush because you pump so much bonuses into it.

02:08:40.000 We were just talking right as we're switching over to the uncensored.

02:08:45.000 We have this job list thing for this video producer so we can make stuff like this.

02:08:48.000 I would, I want to make a commercial for chess, the trading, the trading piece game, where it's like there's a guy who's just got a whole thing of queens and one king in the middle.

02:09:01.000 And it's just a guy cracks open a booster pack of chess pieces and he's like, ah, just pawns again.

02:09:09.000 And then they go to a tournament and he's like, well, my family couldn't afford any of the really good pieces, but I wanted to play.

02:09:14.000 And he's just got like pawns in like two nights.

02:09:17.000 That sounds like hell.

02:09:19.000 That's the point about what when like Pokemon Magic, they're not, they're not skill games.

02:09:23.000 It's a gambling element that you, that has a second.

02:09:26.000 You know what?

02:09:27.000 It feels like multi-level marketing, where it's like, it's not a pyramid scheme.

02:09:31.000 It's kind of a pyramid scheme.

02:09:33.000 You know what I mean?

02:09:34.000 It's not gambling.

02:09:35.000 You can play the card.

02:09:36.000 It's a skill game.

02:09:36.000 You can play the game.

02:09:38.000 Yeah, but in order to do that, you have to gamble.

02:09:40.000 And like, if you have unlimited money, literally, you can buy all the cards and win.

02:09:45.000 If you in poker have unlimited money, you can go all in every hand.

02:09:50.000 Oh, eventually you will win.

02:09:51.000 Elon Musk wanted to.

02:09:53.000 He could buy up as many early edition magic cards as possible.

02:10:00.000 So let's say he's like, I want to win as many legacy games as possible.

02:10:06.000 So he goes to his guy and says, go on the market and find every possible mocks you can.

02:10:11.000 I want to own them all so that no one playing legacy will ever have them again.

02:10:16.000 Just me.

02:10:19.000 It would probably cost $10 million.

02:10:20.000 That's it.

02:10:21.000 The mocks go for a couple grand, and I don't even know how many are a couple thousand maybe are in circulation.

02:10:27.000 Yeah, $5,000.

02:10:28.000 You go to some guy who's got a legacy deck and he loves playing legacy and you say, listen, I'll give you $10,000 for that mocks.

02:10:33.000 And they say, absolutely not.

02:10:34.000 I'll give you $50. 1.00

02:10:34.000 He's going to go, holy shit. 1.00

02:10:35.000 You say yes if someone offers you 50. 0.99

02:10:37.000 Jeremy, I want to ask you, without being contrived, like, you know, I didn't bring it up on this.

02:10:41.000 Well, no, I wanted to say first, though, the reason the baseball card argument doesn't work is I collect baseball cards.

02:10:46.000 The only value to it is if somebody has a high demand for it.

02:10:49.000 It has no utility whatsoever.

02:10:52.000 And I think that's the major difference here is they control distribution, meaning they control how many there are.

02:10:58.000 They also control the rules of the game, so they control how they're used.

02:11:01.000 So I think that's a major element to what in some way could make it gambling.

02:11:05.000 Anyway.

02:11:06.000 Was in Rome, this is where I was like, I don't want to be contrived and ask you about everything in Rome, but did gambling spike when the empire started flailing?

02:11:14.000 It was always a thing, if that makes sense.

02:11:16.000 And the thing that's interesting is so chariot teams like chariot racing were actually colors.

02:11:21.000 They had reds, blues, greens, different colors.

02:11:24.000 And people would gamble heavily on these races to the point that the way Roman society worked, it was what's known as a client system, meaning you owed somebody either your position or they owned your debt or whatever it might be.

02:11:37.000 So you would do whatever that guy asked.

02:11:38.000 You'd show up at his house every day, say, hey, what can I do for your boss?

02:11:41.000 And gambling was very similar to the people owning the gambling rackets.

02:11:45.000 If you owed him a whole bunch of money, he owned you.

02:11:47.000 And I think that's where gambling was a really big deal because people were obsessed with it to the point that they would be willing to give up their own autonomy just to be gambling.

02:11:56.000 Now, that's different than the patron system, right?

02:11:58.000 Well, the patron system, the client system, are a similar word, but Romans are client. 0.87

02:12:04.000 Like I was, you know, the client of this senator, and I owe my job to getting this job because of this senator.

02:12:10.000 And gambling would be very similar where people that own gambling houses, if you got to the certain point where you had so much debt, they would say, well, I won't make you pay on the debt, but you have to go kill that guy for me.

02:12:21.000 And that would be very similar, how you could own somebody through gambling.

02:12:25.000 Did they literally take them as slaves?

02:12:27.000 Literally own?

02:12:28.000 Well, there was slavery, really.

02:12:29.000 There was slavery.

02:12:30.000 And slavery wasn't racial like we think of slavery.

02:12:32.000 Slavery was, you know, you lost a war, we get you.

02:12:35.000 Or we took over your territory, we get you.

02:12:39.000 Very often, a lot of the early tutors were Greek tutors that were brought in when Rome conquered Greek states and they're very highly educated.

02:12:48.000 So now these slaves are your new tutors.

02:12:50.000 So they would just become permanent clients of a gambler that owed the gambling a lot of money.

02:12:55.000 Yeah, you could become a permanent client at that point.

02:12:57.000 Would they like sign contract?

02:12:58.000 Like you are now permanent.

02:12:59.000 There was no contract.

02:13:01.000 It was just a verbal agreement.

02:13:02.000 But that's how it also in the United States, slavery started because I believe it was initially an indentured servant who could not pay back the debt accrued.

02:13:09.000 So the court ruled, well, then he is indentured forever.

02:13:12.000 There's a lot of early Irish that came over that way.

02:13:14.000 And it was a black man who owned the first live.

02:13:16.000 It's interesting, huh?

02:13:18.000 Shall we grab some colors?

02:13:20.000 We'll start with Jessica Clarity. 0.55

02:13:21.000 What is up?

02:13:22.000 Jessica, what's going on?

02:13:24.000 Yo.

02:13:25.000 Hey, guys.

02:13:25.000 Thank you for taking my call tonight.

02:13:27.000 Def.

02:13:28.000 Yeah.

02:13:28.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:13:29.000 Yes.

02:13:30.000 I had a question for the guest.

02:13:33.000 We know that you're the co-founder of Command Your Brand, and I was wondering what advice you would have to someone who's wanting to grow their audience on YouTube or just social media in general.

02:13:44.000 Because I'm a small creator and it feels like the algorithm just only favors these larger creatives.

02:13:50.000 Well, I'm definitely not as big of a YouTube expert as Tim, so I can't really say, you know, you guys have been on YouTube a lot longer than I have, a lot bigger than I have.

02:13:58.000 But I would say, in terms of being a creator, the thing that I found for me when what I was doing changed is when I really came with my unique way to talk about something.

02:14:07.000 So, for example, years ago, I would just talk about Rome, whatever people want to talk about.

02:14:11.000 And now I have a real formulation of what I talk about, calling it the Roman pattern.

02:14:16.000 And in that, the way it was shown and portrayed, I always made sure that the visuals were highly thematic.

02:14:23.000 The music we're using is highly thematic.

02:14:24.000 People know what the brand feels like.

02:14:26.000 And I think that's what it comes down to is getting clear about what you're talking about, how you're talking about it, and how it looks on all of your social channels.

02:14:33.000 I'm definitely not the biggest guy out there, but for me, that has worked really well to make sure it's a clear, coherent, concise message.

02:14:40.000 And really having a framework of how I deliver it is really, really important too.

02:14:46.000 That is great advice.

02:14:48.000 Thank you.

02:14:48.000 Yeah, because my channel was just kind of started from what Tim said.

02:14:53.000 If you're going cool places or having unique experiences, just pull your camera out.

02:14:58.000 So that's kind of how that started.

02:15:00.000 Well, the thing I would look at too is your interaction.

02:15:03.000 Like interaction is a great survey point.

02:15:05.000 You know, what do people like?

02:15:06.000 What don't they like?

02:15:07.000 And that's a way that you can start formulating, well, what is the framework this is built around?

02:15:11.000 Because surveys really are the key to successful statistics is, you know, what do people like about what you're doing?

02:15:17.000 What do they engage the most on?

02:15:18.000 It's really key to seeing success in that.

02:15:21.000 Do you use YouTube analytics a lot and like their AI?

02:15:25.000 I use vidIQ a lot.

02:15:27.000 I find that's really, really useful because I can have it look at my scripts that I write and see if maybe we need to reword some certain things.

02:15:32.000 Scoring titles is really helpful, stuff like that.

02:15:35.000 Yeah, I used to use it, but it was completely wrong.

02:15:38.000 Bummer.

02:15:39.000 It's worked well for the Rome channel.

02:15:41.000 It would be like, here's the title you should use.

02:15:44.000 And then I would be like, okay, that's different from what I normally do.

02:15:46.000 And then views would go down.

02:15:47.000 It's just like, okay, that does not work.

02:15:49.000 Well, I pre-write my titles first.

02:15:51.000 I think that's one key part of it because I think some people want it to just generate it for them whatsoever and there's kind of no creativity in it.

02:15:56.000 Yeah, no, I would write a title out and then it would say low score.

02:16:00.000 And then I'd be like, okay.

02:16:01.000 And then I would change it until it fit their parameters and it would fail.

02:16:05.000 Well, it's worked for the Rome channel.

02:16:07.000 Yeah, maybe a hyper-focused content.

02:16:07.000 So that's all I can say.

02:16:10.000 Well, that's what I found when I went really broad because what I used to do is I used to do like more political type content.

02:16:10.000 It's better.

02:16:15.000 So like I had Roger Stone on, like I had a lot of things, you know, Phil was on a few years ago.

02:16:20.000 And I really kind of just tightened the niche on what I was doing because it was just too broad.

02:16:24.000 And that's when I saw more success is really just talking about, you know, what I actually already knew.

02:16:29.000 I went to school for this and really just focusing on that.

02:16:34.000 It's a good idea about that.

02:16:38.000 What's that?

02:16:40.000 I was going to say, so if someone would want to become a client of yours, do you select them and do that kind of marketing for them?

02:16:51.000 So we do guest placement.

02:16:52.000 So people come with us if they want to go on other shows.

02:16:54.000 So typically we're working with somebody if they have a new book coming out or they have, you know, we're typically working with a CEO and founder of a company that they're no longer required in the day-to-day productions.

02:17:05.000 We're trying to help them get their message out and kind of become more of the cultural conversation.

02:17:09.000 So typically somebody just books a call with us and then we have a conversation and see if it's a fit for both sides.

02:17:16.000 Okay, cool.

02:17:17.000 Thank you.

02:17:18.000 Anything you want to add or you want to shout anything out?

02:17:18.000 Yeah.

02:17:22.000 Yeah, I have some shout outs.

02:17:24.000 You guys can follow me at X and YouTube at Jessica Clarity.

02:17:27.000 I'm also on Romanation.

02:17:29.000 T-Bone and I host a show called The Drive-In where we review movies over there.

02:17:35.000 And also I'm running first school board in Montgomery County, Tennessee.

02:17:40.000 And yeah, it's a very contentious race.

02:17:40.000 Oh, cool.

02:17:43.000 It's the 20-year incumbent and the head of the NAACP, so it should get really interesting.

02:17:50.000 Awesome.

02:17:51.000 A lot of that luck to you.

02:17:52.000 Local politics is some of the most important stuff out there.

02:17:56.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:17:57.000 Yes, thank you for me.

02:17:58.000 Thanks.

02:18:00.000 All right.

02:18:01.000 Next up, we've got Tiger Tank.

02:18:04.000 Is that what that says?

02:18:06.000 What up, Tiger Tank?

02:18:07.000 Yes, hello.

02:18:09.000 Hello.

02:18:09.000 Thank you for having me.

02:18:10.000 I'm a longtime listener.

02:18:12.000 First time caller.

02:18:13.000 I've been listening to you, Sam, since I think you were in New Jersey when you were talking about that gym getting shut down.

02:18:19.000 Oh, yeah.

02:18:20.000 Now, my question to you is, which branch of leftist extremism do you think is going to take over here in the near future if they win the next election?

02:18:32.000 Lafism extremism?

02:18:34.000 I think it's going to be very similar to what we already saw with woke stuff.

02:18:39.000 But do you think the Islamists are going to take over or the communists or do you think we will see some kind of great purge in this country through it? 0.73

02:18:49.000 Look, if the option is Islamists or progressive leftists, the progressive leftists lose to the Islamists because they don't have any means to defend themselves against the Islamists. 0.88

02:19:03.000 The Islamists will use the arguments that the progressive left make, and then they'll go ahead and turn around and say, okay, we're not doing any of that anymore because we're in power now. 0.92

02:19:15.000 They're doing it currently in the UK.

02:19:18.000 They did it in Iran. 0.62

02:19:20.000 They tried to do it in France.

02:19:22.000 I wrote a big long piece about the Red-Green Alliance on my Patreon.

02:19:26.000 If you want to go ahead and read that, there's a bunch of information there.

02:19:28.000 But like the progressive left always loses to the Islamists. 1.00

02:19:33.000 The progressive left is the perfect useful idiot for the Islamists. 1.00

02:19:38.000 The Islamists understand the left, the way the left works, and they have no problem with using them. 1.00

02:19:45.000 The left has no ability to defend against the Islamists at all. 0.99

02:19:50.000 The deep state's going to be in control. 0.98

02:19:53.000 Like, there will be weirdo whack, like, woke stuff that's a component of the deep state neolib garbage. 0.98

02:20:01.000 I mean, Islam will be something totally different, I guess. 1.00

02:20:04.000 That'll be the Islamist in the U.S., Islamism will take longer because they have to actually get, they have to entrench themselves far deeper than they are. 0.99

02:20:12.000 There's a very, very, on the, on the national scale, there's a very few of them.

02:20:16.000 You see pockets beginning to actually get some influence, but still, overall, there are very few Muslims compared to Christians and stuff like that.

02:20:27.000 But if you want to see what can happen, look at what's going on in the UK now.

02:20:31.000 Look what's going on in France now.

02:20:34.000 And really, the best example is to look at the look at the look at Iran in 1979, the revolution there.

02:20:42.000 There were a lot of progressives that were against the Shah that were not Islamists.

02:20:47.000 They were not.

02:20:48.000 They killed them.

02:20:48.000 Pardon me?

02:20:49.000 Yes, they did. 0.62

02:20:50.000 They got the power and then they killed them.

02:20:52.000 They're currently the progressives that were in Iran currently they're in Algeria.

02:20:57.000 Like they're party.

02:20:59.000 Student revolt.

02:20:59.000 I mean, it's brought up revolt.

02:21:01.000 It brought in the new power and then they got rid of all the students.

02:21:04.000 But if you want, that's the best example that I can recommend.

02:21:08.000 What happened in Iran that'll happen basically anywhere the left allies with the Islamists? 0.83

02:21:14.000 You see it happening in all the people that are pro-Gaza, all the progressives that are pro-Gaza, that are saying that the Israelis are committing a genocide, et cetera.

02:21:27.000 The people in Gaza will use them, right? 1.00

02:21:29.000 But then when you talk about gay people in Gaza, that ain't happening. 1.00

02:21:34.000 They're just like, that shit doesn't fucking happen here. 1.00

02:21:37.000 They're like, nope. 1.00

02:21:38.000 And just fucking toss you off a building or something. 1.00

02:21:42.000 There is no defense that the left has against the Islamists. 0.99

02:21:48.000 I think Mamdani is an interesting test case in that, too, to kind of observe New York, see the direction New York goes, and you're going to see how it's going to work here in the U.S.

02:21:55.000 Yeah, I don't think that Momdani is going to, I don't think that New York is in danger of falling to Islamism right now because I don't think that there are enough, again, it's still compared to other religions and stuff, it's still very, very, it's still a very small minority. 1.00

02:22:17.000 But they will do what they can to push their agenda.

02:22:22.000 I mean, in the UK, there are MPs that are not Muslims that are saying things like, we need fewer dogs in the UK.

02:22:30.000 And that's specifically to cater to the Muslims.

02:22:33.000 Yeah.

02:22:34.000 And what was that BBC thing?

02:22:36.000 It was like, have we been to welcoming the dogs that went viral?

02:22:39.000 Yeah.

02:22:40.000 They're even at the point where they're afraid to go after the rape gangs at this point.

02:22:40.000 Just recently.

02:22:43.000 Yeah, terrified.

02:22:44.000 They're concerned of what's going to happen to them if they do anything about it.

02:22:46.000 They're afraid of racism.

02:22:47.000 So look, like I said, I've got a piece on my Patreon.

02:22:51.000 It's called, I called it The Weapon They Can't Control, How the Left Built the Coalition, It Cannot Survive.

02:22:57.000 Go to my Patreon and take a look at it.

02:22:59.000 It's fairly in-depth.

02:23:01.000 There are all kinds of citations for all the stuff that I talk about.

02:23:04.000 But yeah, the left has no ability to control Islamism because it fundamentally, the way that the left looks at the world, they see European influence. 0.82

02:23:16.000 They see white people.

02:23:17.000 They see that as the power base of Western society.

02:23:21.000 And so the Islamists, the Muslims, and stuff like that, they're an oppressed minority.

02:23:25.000 So they're completely and totally incapable of saying, no, we must limit what you're doing.

02:23:32.000 They have no ability to control it.

02:23:36.000 So what was my follow-up question with that?

02:23:39.000 If at all, when do you think we will see a reconquista in America with regards to we are watching all this stuff happen in Europe and how devastating it is and life-changing, I would say?

02:23:52.000 Well, I mean, I think that, look, as long as if the left gets into a position of authority, right, they get into the White House and they control the they control Congress, they're going to do the same things they were doing during the during the Bush administration, I'm sorry, during the Biden administration.

02:24:10.000 That's not in question.

02:24:11.000 You see it in California.

02:24:13.000 You see it in Virginia right now.

02:24:16.000 That's just going to be the status quo.

02:24:18.000 And that's going to be the status quo for the left moving forward.

02:24:21.000 They may run someone like Gavin Newsome.

02:24:24.000 They may run a white Christian man and say, look, this guy is acceptable to white America and you can vote for this guy, et cetera, et cetera.

02:24:34.000 As soon as he gets into power, it's going to be all the woke stuff.

02:24:38.000 They learned from the fact that Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris both lost.

02:24:46.000 They're going to say we should not run a woman. 1.00

02:24:49.000 Look at Joe Biden one.

02:24:50.000 He was a white Christian man.

02:24:52.000 We should run a white Christian man. 1.00

02:24:54.000 And then once we get a white Christian man in the White House, he'll rubber stamp all the progressive. 0.95

02:24:58.000 What about VP, though?

02:24:59.000 Pardon me?

02:25:00.000 Could they have a white Christian man with a black female VP? 0.60

02:25:03.000 I don't think so.

02:25:04.000 I don't know.

02:25:05.000 I don't think it'll work.

02:25:06.000 I think that AOC could be a VP.

02:25:06.000 I don't know.

02:25:09.000 There was Gerald Ford that made the comment that the only way a woman would be president is she was VP and the president got assassinated. 1.00

02:25:15.000 And I think that's what will be the first.

02:25:16.000 I agree with that.

02:25:17.000 I think it's or removed somehow.

02:25:20.000 But yeah, I think that they will run a white guy, I think.

02:25:26.000 And I think that if that white guy does win, it'll just be a rubber stamp for all the progressive policies that the left want.

02:25:36.000 Yeah.

02:25:38.000 Guy sounds good.

02:25:40.000 Anything you want to shout out, bud?

02:25:41.000 Well, yeah, yeah.

02:25:43.000 I'll wrap it up real quick.

02:25:45.000 So I want to shout out two things.

02:25:47.000 My wife runs an Instagram and a TikTok page where she feeds all the chickens.

02:25:50.000 And it's just called Carly's Farm on Instagram and TikTok.

02:25:55.000 And I also want to shout out that me and Glenn may be starting a history show here in the Discord.

02:26:01.000 Nice.

02:26:02.000 Where I'm hoping we can do a Heritage Day where we can talk about the families and all the men who built this country and try to reconnect with our American room.

02:26:11.000 Awesome.

02:26:12.000 Sick.

02:26:13.000 Cool.

02:26:14.000 All right, I'm going to thanks for calling in.

02:26:16.000 See you, man.

02:26:17.000 Thank you for your time, gentlemen.

02:26:19.000 30,000 troops to play.

02:26:20.000 Next up, we've got Philly Cheese45.

02:26:25.000 What's up, Philly Cheese?

02:26:26.000 How's it going, dude?

02:26:27.000 Hey, good evening, Jones.

02:26:28.000 How's everybody doing?

02:26:30.000 Doing well.

02:26:32.000 Doing.

02:26:35.000 So I'm glad there's no women on the panel tonight. 1.00

02:26:38.000 I'm so nerd out about my favorite historical subject, which is ancient Rome.

02:26:42.000 So this is going to be mostly for Mr. Slate, probably Ian, but anyone else, feel free to give your take.

02:26:51.000 So Mr. Slate, what's your take on the Marian reforms for the military and then the Gracchi reforms for society?

02:26:58.000 And then more importantly, in the nationwide efforts to form a mighty faggot, do you see any modern equivalents or parallels that need to be implemented today in these domains? 1.00

02:27:09.000 As Simpson's reference over my head better. 0.99

02:27:12.000 Martin says, alone, we are weak like a single twig, but together we form a mighty faggot. 1.00

02:27:18.000 That's great. 1.00

02:27:21.000 In true fascist form.

02:27:23.000 Yeah.

02:27:23.000 So the Marian reforms is the one I actually hit on a lot.

02:27:27.000 So Marius, for people that aren't familiar, is the famous reformer of the Roman military.

02:27:33.000 And the office of consul, Rome had two at a time because they didn't want to have one man that was holding an office that was kind of like president.

02:27:40.000 They wanted to split power.

02:27:41.000 He holds the office of consul 10 times or seven times.

02:27:45.000 You're supposed to hold it once every 10 years.

02:27:47.000 He didn't live to be 70 years old.

02:27:49.000 So he obviously broke the rules of office in order to do that.

02:27:52.000 He creates the gold standard eagle that's typically used as the symbol of the Roman legions after this.

02:27:58.000 And I also see the reforms he made of the military.

02:28:01.000 One of the biggest things he did is he changed Rome from being a citizen soldiery basically fighting for their own farms and land to a highly professionalized class of soldier.

02:28:11.000 And I do see that as, in a way, one of the things that's going to drive the fall of the Republic much faster because now people don't have loyalty to their Roman Republic.

02:28:23.000 They start to have loyalty to a commander.

02:28:25.000 And that's going to be one of the things that not just drives the fall of the Republic, but later on, it's also going to be one of the things that drives the fall of the empire.

02:28:33.000 So I see those reforms as actually extremely pivotal, in a lot of ways being a poison pill for not just the Roman Republic, but later the Roman Empire.

02:28:41.000 In terms of the reforms of the Gracchi, the major one that I look at, because they were looking at landish redistribution, but they were also looking at the grain dole.

02:28:51.000 And the grain dole was the idea that, I guess to back it up, Tiberius Gracchus is fighting in the Punic Wars.

02:28:58.000 After they're over, he's on his way back and he sees that people are living on land that's public land.

02:29:05.000 They're farming it for rich people that have decided they just own this public land and they're not able to feed their families.

02:29:10.000 So he decides that they're going to form the grain dole, that basically every citizen would get a certain amount of grain to eat in order to feed their family.

02:29:18.000 Now that thing is going to be something that, as you get closer to the third century, is one of the things that pushes the inflation even harder because Romans are dealing with climate change.

02:29:29.000 From about 200 BC to 200 AD, it's something called the Roman climate optimum, meaning they had perfect weather and they could grow food in much higher quantities than they would have typically been able to.

02:29:39.000 When that changes in 250, it's going to make grain prices double, triple, quadruple.

02:29:45.000 So now Rome has this new price that they have to pay to feed all these people.

02:29:50.000 So it's going to be a real issue, especially in the third century.

02:29:53.000 So I think those are actually two really pivotal things that don't actually mean as much when they happen as they are going to for later Rome be part of kind of the structure falling apart.

02:30:04.000 Question: Metaphorically, you know, they say history rhymes.

02:30:06.000 So, like the Marian reforms, Gaius Marius improves the military, centralizes command authority.

02:30:12.000 If we were to see something like that in the modern age, would that be, I'm wondering, giving over military command authority to the AI, autonomous AI, and we start to trust the AI as our new commander, which leads to the downfall, then hyper-accelerated downfall of our empire.

02:30:28.000 I don't know if it would happen exactly like that, but I think looking at it in people having more of a personal relationship with the person that's leading them rather than looking at the good of the nation as a whole.

02:30:38.000 And I think you could look at that more of even in political parties where people care more about their political party than how's the country doing.

02:30:44.000 I think that is kind of a big part of it as well.

02:30:47.000 Like, I could see soldiers in combat being like, yo, this AI has saved my life so many times.

02:30:53.000 I'm with the AI.

02:30:55.000 That's terrifying.

02:30:57.000 It's highly terrifying.

02:31:01.000 And reasonable.

02:31:04.000 Like, people didn't just do what they need to do to survive, especially in combat.

02:31:07.000 Yeah.

02:31:08.000 If you have a superior commander, even if it's a robot, everyone should love AI because remember, Iron Man had an AI helping him with everything.

02:31:15.000 Jarvis.

02:31:15.000 And that's right.

02:31:15.000 And he would be like, Jarvis, I need more power.

02:31:17.000 And then Jarvis would do things for him.

02:31:18.000 Just give it a cool accent.

02:31:19.000 People will trust it more.

02:31:21.000 Jarvis.

02:31:21.000 British.

02:31:22.000 Who doesn't trust the British? 1.00

02:31:22.000 He always trusts the British. 1.00

02:31:25.000 Did you have another?

02:31:26.000 Did you have a following?

02:31:27.000 What?

02:31:28.000 Are there any more British? 1.00

02:31:30.000 Yeah.

02:31:31.000 As-salamu alaykum.

02:31:34.000 As-salamu alaykum.

02:31:36.000 Learning from history, what are some of these reforms that you would, things from the past that you would recommend for today?

02:31:42.000 That we're talking a lot about what our government should be doing.

02:31:46.000 I'm curious what highlights from history you see would be beneficial today that people might think are outdated, but are actually quite wise.

02:31:56.000 Well, I think one of the biggest ones, honestly, is looking at money and politics.

02:32:00.000 One of the things I talk about a lot that doesn't often get talked about.

02:32:04.000 Charles V, the Holy Roman Emperor, he gets that position because there's actually a man behind him.

02:32:10.000 His name is Jakob Fuga, and he's a cloth merchant that manages to make a lot of money because he realizes he can make more money trading money than actually just trading cloth.

02:32:19.000 And he becomes, there's a book out there.

02:32:21.000 I think it's called The Richest Man in the World, and it's about Jakob Fuga.

02:32:25.000 And what Fuga does for Charles V is there's seven prince electors that decide who's going to be the next Holy Roman Emperor. 0.52

02:32:33.000 So he bribes all seven of them and gets Charles V elected.

02:32:37.000 And throughout his entire career, Charles V will make a lot of strange decisions which don't make sense to people.

02:32:42.000 But if you understand those decisions he's making are to benefit Jakob Fuga, then history makes a whole lot more sense to you.

02:32:50.000 So I think one of the biggest things we have to look at is money in politics.

02:32:54.000 You know, super PACs are a big part of this.

02:32:56.000 Political donations are a big part of this.

02:32:58.000 And so I think if we look at money in politics, that's something we could learn a really big lesson from.

02:33:04.000 This guy, by the way, Jakob Fuga, his name is spelled Jacob Fugger.

02:33:08.000 Yeah.

02:33:09.000 Brother, this guy, I got to learn about this guy.

02:33:13.000 Jacob Fugger the rich.

02:33:14.000 Yeah, richest man in the world.

02:33:15.000 Jakob Fuga.

02:33:16.000 Jakob Fuga.

02:33:17.000 It's a German name, but yeah, Jacob Fugger. 0.98

02:33:20.000 He was a motherfugger. 0.64

02:33:22.000 So it's either like get money out of make it hard for money to go in or make it so that if the money comes in, nothing happens. 0.98

02:33:30.000 Like in a perfect world, if you could make politics more like jury duty, it might be more successful. 0.65

02:33:35.000 You know, a job people don't really want.

02:33:37.000 Demarchy.

02:33:38.000 Yeah, a job that people really don't want, but they're looking out for the best interests and they serve for a certain period of time and they go back to work.

02:33:45.000 That might not be a bad idea.

02:33:46.000 Demarchy is rule at random.

02:33:49.000 You get Congress notice.

02:33:50.000 You go, ugh.

02:33:51.000 Yeah, we're not going to get Congress notice.

02:33:54.000 John Adams went back to running a law practice after he was president.

02:33:56.000 He was done.

02:33:59.000 Tim, would that be gambling, though?

02:34:01.000 Living in society and being forced into it, you know?

02:34:06.000 If I live here, they might make me serve my people. 0.97

02:34:09.000 I'll be serving my people.

02:34:12.000 I got my first jury duty.

02:34:13.000 Yeah, I heard.

02:34:14.000 I'm excited, man.

02:34:15.000 The other thing I would say is I think currency is a major problem.

02:34:18.000 And we talked about that with the reforms of Constantine with currency.

02:34:22.000 And I think that's one of the bigger lessons we could understand is when you look at banking, especially, a lot of the language is complicated.

02:34:30.000 A lot of things are set up in a way that regular people can't understand.

02:34:34.000 And I think if we can figure out how to handle our currency, we make our condition a lot better and we make our future a lot brighter.

02:34:41.000 Elon Musk said that we're headed towards a post-money economy where it's going to be about how much electricity can you generate and how much of a payload can you move.

02:34:49.000 And I feel like currency is electricity is current.

02:34:53.000 Currency will evolve to have a new meaning.

02:34:55.000 But I think the deep, the banking cartels.

02:34:58.000 Phil's got a big old sound when I do these loose associations.

02:35:01.000 Well, I guess it's not as crazy as it sounds, though, because it's also the idea of like value for value, right?

02:35:08.000 You know, it's like it's kind of an Ayn Rand idea.

02:35:10.000 You know, like if you're actually giving value for value that's being produced, then it has a, it, it actually is something rather than the idea of money just for existence, whatever it might be. 0.98

02:35:20.000 I imagine when Elon said that, or when people say that out loud, that the people at the World Economic Forum that are trying to create the technocracy and their method of control is money, that they hear that and they're like, oh, fuck, because it's true.

02:35:32.000 That is, we're about to lose control of the system if they don't have, if the money isn't enough and everyone's got their own power packs. 0.79

02:35:39.000 Or, you know, evolution of money.

02:35:44.000 Got anything you want to add?

02:35:47.000 No, I thought you were going to give a simple answer, like maybe bring back slavery or property or something.

02:35:53.000 No, I appreciate the highly educated and I appreciate that.

02:35:53.000 Sorry, that was a little bit more.

02:35:58.000 So definitely going to be checking out your stuff in the future.

02:36:00.000 Thanks.

02:36:01.000 I just want to shout out my mom, she's going to turn 70 in a couple weeks. 1.00

02:36:06.000 And then my grandpa, he's going to be 94.

02:36:09.000 So happy birthday to them in the week.

02:36:11.000 Happy birthday.

02:36:13.000 Thank you.

02:36:13.000 Have a great night.

02:36:13.000 Thanks, man.

02:36:15.000 Have a good one.

02:36:16.000 All right.

02:36:17.000 And last but not least, we've got JLOR.

02:36:20.000 Welcome back.

02:36:21.000 What up?

02:36:22.000 How y'all doing?

02:36:23.000 Doing well, Jaylore.

02:36:24.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:36:26.000 All right.

02:36:29.000 I was going to shout something out, y'all talked about earlier, but I don't remember.

02:36:32.000 But anyways, so my question is: where do you go to find a good spouse? 0.85

02:36:32.000 All right. 0.85

02:36:36.000 We're in this stupid church and digital age where nobody goes outside. 0.99

02:36:39.000 Michael Knowles said something once, like, you know, go to the place where you find the caliber of person you're looking for and like church, obviously. 0.99

02:36:46.000 But most of the time, people are with their families.

02:36:49.000 And only five. 1.00

02:36:50.000 That's fucking operative shit. 1.00

02:36:51.000 And Tim says he feels like he and you and your spouse caught the last chopper out of Nom. 1.00

02:36:58.000 I mean, honestly, I'd like to catch a train.

02:36:59.000 That'd be all right.

02:37:00.000 Well, so my wife and I are both from Chicago.

02:37:06.000 We both grew up listening to the same music.

02:37:11.000 She's from a suburb.

02:37:12.000 I'm from the southwest side.

02:37:14.000 We met at work when we were around the same age.

02:37:17.000 I was, I think I was in my early, I'm three years older than she is.

02:37:23.000 But we're from the same place.

02:37:24.000 We ate the same food.

02:37:25.000 We went to the same baseball games, listened to the same music.

02:37:27.000 We know the same weather.

02:37:28.000 It's like, I got to be honest, I feel like the big challenge people have is they're meeting people from a different world.

02:37:37.000 And so there's some fun and adventure and meeting a stranger from a faraway land.

02:37:41.000 But I know that I can put on bad religion and alkaline trio, and my wife and I will both know all the words to the songs.

02:37:49.000 So like my ex and I, like, we, we entirely, it's exactly that.

02:37:54.000 Like we met at work. 0.99

02:37:55.000 This has cemented my don't date co-workers fucking thing. 0.99

02:37:58.000 Um, like exactly that. 0.99

02:38:01.000 And I loved her, she didn't love me is kind of the situation I'm in.

02:38:05.000 Like, did you get all jacked?

02:38:09.000 I've been going to the gym Tuesdays and Thursdays for like an hour and a half a day.

02:38:16.000 Like, I've been trying to.

02:38:18.000 You should go to the gym four times a week.

02:38:20.000 Oh, don't date women from the gym, though. 1.00

02:38:23.000 I used to live.

02:38:24.000 I managed a gym for 10 years.

02:38:27.000 You don't want to date women from the gym. 1.00

02:38:28.000 No, no, I'm not. 0.99

02:38:28.000 No, the ones that pull their pants into their butt cracks. 0.99

02:38:31.000 Yeah, those. 0.82

02:38:32.000 You don't want to date the camera?

02:38:33.000 What do you mean?

02:38:34.000 So I've lost a heartbeat.

02:38:35.000 I'm going to make a hoe in a house the last five years. 1.00

02:38:37.000 How really?

02:38:40.000 That's great.

02:38:41.000 But I still think you should.

02:38:43.000 I'm not saying you should meet women at the gym, but I'm saying that you should go to the gym, you know, three, four times a week if you can. 0.51

02:38:49.000 Like if it's something that you have, look, man, if you don't have a girlfriend, you can fucking go to the gym three, four times a week, right? 0.99

02:38:54.000 What else the fuck are you going to do? 0.96

02:38:56.000 But yeah, honestly, like, you know, go to the gym, get in the best shape that you can get in, and find something that you really like and learn to excel at it. 0.99

02:39:06.000 How old are you, if you don't mind my asking?

02:39:08.000 30.

02:39:09.000 30? 1.00

02:39:09.000 Yeah, you're still fucking young. 1.00

02:39:11.000 Just find some shit that you really like to do, something that you enjoy spending your time doing, and then excel at it. 0.99

02:39:18.000 Like, get really good. 0.98

02:39:19.000 You should do a Timcast mixer and we'll get all the Discord members at one big event.

02:39:23.000 And, you know, then you're bound to meet someone of a similar moral worldview, at least.

02:39:30.000 Women are attracted. 0.82

02:39:31.000 In Wisconsin anywhere, I'll be there.

02:39:33.000 Women are attracted to competence. 1.00

02:39:36.000 Do it in Chicago.

02:39:36.000 Chicago.

02:39:37.000 There you go.

02:39:38.000 Sorry.

02:39:39.000 Well, the point is women are attracted to competence, right? 1.00

02:39:43.000 Like, women are attracted to dudes that are good at shit. 1.00

02:39:46.000 So, like, you should get. 1.00

02:39:48.000 I have to go into construction.

02:39:49.000 I'm going to be a heavy equipment operator.

02:39:51.000 Well, I mean, that's, you know, if there's, there's nothing wrong with that.

02:39:54.000 But, like, if you're looking to meet women, find something that you like to do that women also enjoy and get good at it. 1.00

02:40:03.000 Go and do some shit where women are. 1.00

02:40:05.000 But, I mean, it's not easy nowadays. 1.00

02:40:07.000 I'm not trying to say that it's easy at all. 0.98

02:40:09.000 And, like, I got a fucking cheat code. 0.98

02:40:11.000 That's how I met my girlfriend. 0.99

02:40:13.000 But, like, platinum records.

02:40:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:40:18.000 Shit, man. 1.00

02:40:19.000 My advice is if you're using dating apps, which you probably are going to have to, try and talk as little as possible via text and chats and try and get the person to meet you in person. 0.99

02:40:31.000 That's really good.

02:40:33.000 Like, that's the best thing you could do.

02:40:35.000 Oh, man.

02:40:35.000 Getting rejected online dating is not the world either.

02:40:39.000 That is just so annoying in text because they're not.

02:40:42.000 I haven't done online dating for like 10 years. 0.99

02:40:44.000 So that shit is the most immoralizing shit I've ever done. 0.99

02:40:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:40:48.000 Where are you from?

02:40:49.000 Do you live in the same place where you're from?

02:40:50.000 I'm from a little bit north of Milwaukee.

02:40:53.000 I think your best bet is going to be finding someone from a similar place, to be honest.

02:40:57.000 I went out with friends, a man and a woman, and me, and women were flocking on me. 0.99

02:41:03.000 So if you're surrounded with friends.

02:41:04.000 It's hard, isn't it?

02:41:05.000 It's hard.

02:41:05.000 What's that?

02:41:06.000 You got the hair.

02:41:07.000 It's hard, you know?

02:41:08.000 But I was not a psycho.

02:41:10.000 That's the important thing.

02:41:11.000 Be not a psycho with some friends because then they'll be like, hey, he's sociable.

02:41:15.000 Solid advice. 0.81

02:41:16.000 Don't be a psycho.

02:41:17.000 Yeah, like your friends are still important, even though the girls still.

02:41:20.000 So what you want to do, what you want to do is you want to get a pair of binoculars and you want to horizon.

02:41:27.000 You put them on and you go to the bar and you stand there with the binoculars on.

02:41:27.000 No, no, no.

02:41:30.000 Then the women are going to be like curious and they're going to say, what's the binoculars? 1.00

02:41:34.000 And then you cock your arms back and you start going, because it's called peacocking.

02:41:38.000 Like the opening scene in Little Nikki.

02:41:40.000 Where he falls out of the tree and dies.

02:41:40.000 Is that what it is?

02:41:44.000 It's called peacocking.

02:41:45.000 When you do something intentionally weird, like wear a top hat, sunglasses, and carry a cane around.

02:41:49.000 Yeah.

02:41:50.000 That woman will notice you. 1.00

02:41:51.000 I didn't have a top hat on that much.

02:41:54.000 But it was the friend.

02:41:55.000 It was friendship.

02:41:55.000 It's called peacocking.

02:41:56.000 Like trying to do it alone, find someone alone is very challenging.

02:41:59.000 But having someone to talk to about it when you're stressed out, even just once in a while, and then someone to be there with you, like they call it a wingman, you know, out in public so that the women can see that you're not crazy.

02:42:09.000 You're a friendship quality.

02:42:11.000 And then just relax and your friend will strike up a conversation with somebody you'll end up meeting and falling in love with.

02:42:16.000 I have right to falling in love with.

02:42:20.000 I have no good advice for meeting women. 0.99

02:42:21.000 My wife and I do not listen to the same music.

02:42:23.000 You know, I've been to OzFest five times and I used to go to all those shows.

02:42:26.000 She hates that.

02:42:29.000 Wrestling is like really big where I live.

02:42:32.000 And I wrestled all through grammar school, high school, everything else.

02:42:36.000 Her brother was a state-level wrestler.

02:42:38.000 She was the stat girl on the opposite team.

02:42:40.000 That is how I met my wife.

02:42:43.000 But we have long, intelligent conversations.

02:42:45.000 We're into the same politics.

02:42:47.000 Church is important to us.

02:42:49.000 We've been together 15 years, been married for 11.

02:42:53.000 So I don't have good advice on how to meet him, honestly.

02:42:55.000 I'm sorry.

02:42:55.000 Well, it sort of aligns with what Phil was saying.

02:42:57.000 I'm going to go around.

02:42:57.000 You know, go outside and go and just run full speed.

02:43:00.000 Do what you do really well.

02:43:01.000 Like, she saw you in action performing and was like, well, I like that.

02:43:04.000 Like I said, man, women are attracted to competence. 1.00

02:43:07.000 They like dudes that know how to do shit. 1.00

02:43:10.000 So, like. 1.00

02:43:11.000 I was a competitive powerlifter when we met.

02:43:13.000 I've lost 50 pounds since then, but what are you going to do?

02:43:15.000 But you're competitive at it.

02:43:17.000 You were doing it in a competent fashion. 0.98

02:43:21.000 But seriously, you need to, it's like, sure, if you can, you know, if you can schmooze women and go and you've got the gift of gab and you're being funny is probably like fucking the most valuable thing. 0.99

02:43:36.000 Like if you're actually a funny dude, that shit will fucking work. 0.98

02:43:41.000 I personally am not all that funny. 1.00

02:43:43.000 So thank God I'm in a fucking band. 0.98

02:43:45.000 But like, but yeah, like be funny and like be competent. 0.99

02:43:50.000 Those things are the best.

02:43:51.000 You can also make a podcast where you claim Erica Kirk is evil because that'll generate a massive female viewership. 0.80

02:43:58.000 Yeah.

02:43:58.000 And then you'll have your pick of the litter.

02:44:00.000 Oh, you're brilliant.

02:44:01.000 True.

02:44:02.000 Not only that, I was just going to say, do a true crime podcast. 1.00

02:44:05.000 They'll be throwing the vagina at you. 1.00

02:44:09.000 Hell, I know a lot about serial killers. 1.00

02:44:11.000 Let's go.

02:44:11.000 Yeah.

02:44:12.000 It'll be bad vagina, though, so be careful. 1.00

02:44:14.000 You attract. 0.99

02:44:16.000 The way you do it is the terms you attract.

02:44:19.000 That also goes back to what you said earlier.

02:44:21.000 You said he knows a lot about serial killers, and you said, don't be a psycho.

02:44:27.000 So like you can be a non-psycho in a psychotic world and show her like hey, Mr. Bollin's not a psycho.

02:44:32.000 He doesn't talk about serial killers.

02:44:34.000 All right, you got anything you want to shout out?

02:44:37.000 I mean, I was the dude called last week about the debate prep.

02:44:40.000 I mean, that went pretty well.

02:44:42.000 It was fun.

02:44:42.000 I had a lot of fun.

02:44:44.000 But it was at this book type of bar where they help authors.

02:44:48.000 And I just wanted to, can I just read the cover to this worst than the minutes are milking farms?

02:44:55.000 Oh my God.

02:44:56.000 Oh, God.

02:44:58.000 Hot dinosaur action, the way you like it.

02:45:01.000 Wet hot Allosaurus Summer is the name of the book.

02:45:05.000 She was a country girl looking for excitement.

02:45:07.000 He was an Apex Predator Therapod.

02:45:12.000 Oh, my God.

02:45:13.000 Yeah, thanks.

02:45:14.000 Thanks.

02:45:15.000 Find that. 0.99

02:45:17.000 That's not how you fucking meet women, dude. 0.99

02:45:21.000 I learned that while I was there. 1.00

02:45:23.000 Dude, they are some crazy, creepy ass people. 1.00

02:45:27.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:45:28.000 Any woman that is worth knowing is going to hear that and be like, bro, I'm calling the fucking cops. 1.00

02:45:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:45:34.000 Yeah, but hold on.

02:45:35.000 If you dress up like a Minotaur, she'll never leave you.

02:45:37.000 Because who else will do that for her, you know?

02:45:39.000 You're going to be like, no other man will allow you to be your true self.

02:45:43.000 Get me the Minotaur costume, and she'll be like anything. 1.00

02:45:46.000 Tim Poole is telling you how to crash the fucking car, dude. 1.00

02:45:52.000 That's exactly what he's doing. 1.00

02:45:54.000 He's like, bro, check that shit out. 1.00

02:45:59.000 Let's go. 1.00

02:46:00.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:46:01.000 All right, man. 0.99

02:46:02.000 Thank you for calling in, dude.

02:46:03.000 All right.

02:46:04.000 Y'all have a great night.

02:46:05.000 Thank you very much.

02:46:06.000 I appreciate everything y'all done for me.

02:46:08.000 I appreciate it.

02:46:09.000 Have a good day.

02:46:09.000 Have you done all right?

02:46:11.000 Jeremy, it's been great.

02:46:13.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:46:14.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

02:46:15.000 We're back tomorrow morning, of course.

02:46:16.000 So thanks for hanging out.

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