Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Candace Owens Implies TPUSA KILLED Charlie Kirk, Claims Failed Bibi Deal Cost MILLIONS | Timcast IRL

00:02:32.000 In a viral post on X, Candace Owens says she is convinced she has received information that she believes proves Turning Point USA has betrayed Charlie Kirk.

00:02:43.000 What does that really mean, betrayed?

00:02:45.000 Well, she's implied that there's multinational organizations involved in the assassination.

00:02:49.000 There's Israelis, the French Foreign Legion.

00:02:52.000 And with this latest post, the implication a lot of people took away is that they were involved in some way in the murder of Charlie Kirk, which, considering what we've seen already over the past couple of months, most people just believe that's the insinuation she's been desperately trying to make, which is really funny because so many people come out and go, she never said that.

00:03:13.000 She's like, dude, come on.

00:03:16.000 The post that she's made, the claims that she's making, in another claim, I believe this was today's episode, she said that one of the individuals, a high-ranking individual at Turning Point, lost millions of dollars when they didn't do a deal with Bibi Netanyahu.

00:03:28.000 You add all these things together.

00:03:29.000 She's painting a picture of Turning Point angry that Charlie wouldn't work with Israel, was turning on Israel.

00:03:35.000 So Turning Point betrayed him because they lost money and had him killed.

00:03:38.000 And they used French Foreign Legion or whatever to do it.

00:03:42.000 I gotta be honest.

00:03:44.000 Well, I'll save the overt commentary for the show, but the insinuation that you're seeing across X, the implication she's making, they were involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk, which I'm just gonna say outright, I think is silly, but we'll talk about that.

00:03:57.000 And there's a bunch of actually important news.

00:03:59.000 The Washington Post claimed that Hegseth, Secretary of War, ordered the killing of survivors of a drone strike as they were clinging to a boat for dear life.

00:04:09.000 And the New York Times said that's never happened.

00:04:11.000 They actually checked with five different sources independent of each other.

00:04:15.000 And they all said Hegseth just gave an order to strike the boats and left.

00:04:18.000 So why did the Washington Post lie?

00:04:20.000 Because they are now claiming in the press formally that the actions taken by Trump's administration are illegal and the orders given are illegal.

00:04:30.000 At the same time, Mark Kelly, Alyssa Lotkin, and many of the Democrats have told the military to defy illegal orders.

00:04:36.000 This is why they are putting out these lies.

00:04:39.000 They are factionalizing our military.

00:04:41.000 And, well, you all know what I think about that. 0.55

00:04:44.000 So we'll talk about that, plus some silly stories.

00:04:46.000 Sabrina Carpenter is all mad because the White House used her song. 0.91

00:04:49.000 Oh, cry more about it, lady. 1.00

00:04:51.000 But before we get into all that, we got some great sponsors, my friends.

00:04:54.000 We got Tax Network USA.

00:04:57.000 My friends, the IRS needs more money.

00:04:59.000 Your money.

00:05:00.000 With President Trump pushing to abolish federal income taxes and replace them with tariffs.

00:05:04.000 So foreign countries pay America instead of American workers.

00:05:07.000 Washington is scrambling to protect its revenue.

00:05:09.000 Congress will fight tooth and nail to keep that from happening.

00:05:11.000 And the IRS is already becoming more aggressive as it tries to prove it can still bring in billions if income taxes disappear.

00:05:19.000 If you owe the IRS back taxes, they can garnish your wages, levy your bank accounts, seize your retirement, or even take your home.

00:05:25.000 Don't the IRS target you.

00:05:26.000 Call the professionals at Tax Network USA.

00:05:28.000 The tax lawyers and enrollment agents are experts in powerful programs that may even help you eliminate your tax debt.

00:05:35.000 Tax Network USA is A-plus rated and has saved over $1 billion for their clients.

00:05:40.000 Whether you owe a few thousand or a few million, they can help you.

00:05:44.000 With one phone call, you can start the process of stopping the threatening demand letters, stopping aggressive collections and resolving your tax matter once and for all, but you must act now while you still have options.

00:05:54.000 For a free consultation, call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash Tim.

00:06:02.000 Shout out to Tax Network USA for sponsoring the show.

00:06:05.000 We also have pool water.

00:06:08.000 Have you ever wanted to drink pool water?

00:06:10.000 If you have, there's something wrong with you.

00:06:11.000 But if you want to drink our pool water, you can go to casbrew.com and pick up a 12-pack of 12-ounce glass bottles of cool, crisp, refreshing Artesian pool water, Artesian, whatever.

00:06:25.000 We only had about 800 cases that we actually made, and there's 275 left.

00:06:29.000 So if you would like to have bottles of these in your home, shipping can actually be a little expensive.

00:06:33.000 It's heavy.

00:06:33.000 It's water.

00:06:34.000 But think about how much fun you'll have when a guest comes over and say, you want to drink pool water?

00:06:38.000 And they're going to go, oh, no, what?

00:06:39.000 And you'd be like, no, here you go.

00:06:40.000 And then you hand them this bottle and they go, ha ha, you are the funniest person I've ever met.

00:06:44.000 It's exactly how it will go down.

00:06:46.000 Check out Casbrew.com and you can pick up our pool water as well as, I don't know, we got Mary's Ghost Blend and we've got a bunch of different coffees and they're all delicious.

00:06:54.000 Wait till you see what we've got coming out for Valentine's Day.

00:06:57.000 You're going to lose your minds.

00:06:57.000 Don't forget to also smash that like button, share the show with literally everyone you know.

00:07:02.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Nick Freitas.

00:07:06.000 Great to be back.

00:07:07.000 Welcome back, sir.

00:07:08.000 Who are you?

00:07:08.000 What do you do?

00:07:09.000 Well, I'm currently in the Virginia House of Delegates, although I'm not seeking re-election, which given the last election results, probably a good move.

00:07:17.000 But yeah, no, host of Making the Argument and the Wine Minutes and other snarky mug compilations on social media.

00:07:24.000 Radan, well, it's always great to have you.

00:07:26.000 So welcome back.

00:07:27.000 It's going to be fun.

00:07:27.000 We got a lot hanging out.

00:07:28.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:07:29.000 I am Elada Liyahu, White House correspondent here at Timcast.

00:07:32.000 What's up, Phil?

00:07:33.000 Hello, everybody.

00:07:34.000 My name is Phil LeBonte.

00:07:35.000 I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Medal and All That Remains.

00:07:36.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:07:38.000 Let's get into it.

00:07:39.000 And real quick, just one more quick promo.

00:07:41.000 This Saturday at 9 a.m. at Hollywood Charlestown, I will be playing poker with professional poker player Faraz Jaka.

00:07:48.000 Y'all are welcome to come and play.

00:07:49.000 I imagine the tables are going to be full up super quick.

00:07:52.000 So if you show up, you might just end up playing with some other people.

00:07:54.000 But we will be there.

00:07:56.000 It's kind of a meetup game, I guess, and it's going to be a lot of fun.

00:07:58.000 We didn't know if we wanted to announce that we were going to be having this game, but I figure, hey, show up and let's see if we can pack this poker room.

00:08:05.000 But let's get into the story here from Raw Story.

00:08:08.000 Charlie Kirk was betrayed.

00:08:10.000 Right-winger turns on Turning Point Leadership After Murder.

00:08:14.000 Candace has, I would just describe it as officially gone for, I don't know, what would you describe this?

00:08:21.000 The kill shot on Turning Point USA.

00:08:24.000 She is not just implying that they were involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk, but that everybody should get a refund.

00:08:31.000 And she's trying to get them to pull their donations. 1.00

00:08:34.000 She tweets, I received information last night that put the final pieces together for me.

00:08:39.000 I now can say with full confidence that I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the leadership of Turning Point USA and some of the very people who eulogized him on stage.

00:08:47.000 Yes, I will be naming names and providing evidence for my claims.

00:08:50.000 And I'm making a personal plea to every well-meaning person who donated to this Godforsaken organization to request a refund.

00:08:58.000 You were lied to, and leadership knew.

00:09:00.000 Oh boy, Candace is doing everything she can to destroy Turning Point USA.

00:09:07.000 And then we have, we have this video.

00:09:10.000 Evan Kilgore posted it.

00:09:12.000 Candace Owens just said a close family friend of Andrew Colvett allegedly reached out to her and said that Andrew told them he lost out of millions when Charlie rejected the deal with Benjamin Netanyahu earlier this year.

00:09:22.000 Let me play the clip for you from her show.

00:09:24.000 It's a minute long.

00:09:25.000 We just can't all be hanging out in Delaware.

00:09:28.000 And there's one more thing that came in regarding Andrew Colvett, very close family friend of Andrew Colvett had messaged me early on.

00:09:40.000 And I, again, was not tracking any of this at the time, but they had said that they felt that Andrew Colvett was acting weird.

00:09:48.000 And I'm sure that's not a big deal.

00:09:50.000 I think we were all acting weird.

00:09:51.000 Charlie Kirk was assassinated, but moreover, they had mentioned that specifically Andrew had told them that when Charlie said no to BB, he lost out on millions.

00:10:05.000 Now, I'm going to say allegedly because this is a tip, but I have that tip in writing.

00:10:07.000 I'm not lying to you.

00:10:09.000 And I thought to myself, that is so weird.

00:10:10.000 How could the spokesperson at Turning Point USA be on the, how could they be gaining millions from that?

00:10:16.000 What's the structure here of these contracts?

00:10:18.000 That even people that are in PR, people that are like running PR departments are getting tips on the basis of donations.

00:10:25.000 I don't know how this is working, but we need to figure out how this is working.

00:10:29.000 I think it's really important that we learn the truth about what happened.

00:10:34.000 Who's Pierre?

00:10:35.000 Is it Pierre?

00:10:36.000 I'm PR.

00:10:37.000 And has Turning Point been paid?

00:10:39.000 Obviously, it wouldn't be on this year's taxes.

00:10:42.000 You're not going to find those on this year's taxes, but they would be on next year's, but we can ask now.

00:10:48.000 You know, I was having a conversation with a friend of mine, and we were talking about how the average reading level in the United States is around like seventh grade.

00:10:58.000 And I think she first had the eighth grade, and I was like, you know, this is funny because this just came up on Tim Castillo the other night.

00:11:03.000 I think it's actually around seventh grade.

00:11:04.000 And then I was like, I double check because we pulled up the data.

00:11:07.000 And it actually ranges from between fifth to eighth grade.

00:11:10.000 So it's like sixth, seventh grade reading level. 0.99

00:11:13.000 And if I don't think Candace is stupid, I think she's actually super intelligent. 0.99

00:11:18.000 I think she's a genius. 0.99

00:11:19.000 And what I mean by that is not that she's a good person, but I believe that she is extremely aware.

00:11:24.000 She is quick to learn and understand what she is doing.

00:11:27.000 That's why I think what she's doing is amoral, is wrong.

00:11:29.000 It's immoral.

00:11:31.000 Because the way she just phrased all of that to imply that there was some illicit deal with Andrew Colvett and Israel, it's exactly what she's been doing.

00:11:40.000 And I'm going to say this much to the, I suppose it'll sound elitist and insulting, but the people of low reading comprehension who can't parse through the manipulations, they believe this.

00:11:53.000 Let me, I said, I was sitting, I was, I was at the poker room over the weekend, and there were these young guys who were like, Did you hear that Candace is in hiding now because Israel and like they're trying to kill her over this Charlie stuff?

00:12:07.000 And I said, You mean how she posted her show is off the air for the week because it was Thanksgiving?

00:12:11.000 And they were like, She didn't say that.

00:12:12.000 I'm like, Yeah, she didn't say anything, it was vague.

00:12:14.000 That's what she does: vagaries so that you connect the dots and you can believe whatever it is you want to believe without her actually having said anything.

00:12:23.000 So, let me put it like this: if Andrew Colvett is working at a nonprofit, or literally anybody works at a nonprofit, often you get commissions on it's called development.

00:12:31.000 If you bring in a large donor, you will get a commission that is completely normal at nonprofits.

00:12:37.000 You may not like it.

00:12:38.000 People may say, I think it's wrong that you get a commission on donations, but nonprofits are the same as any other business.

00:12:45.000 So, executive directors at nonprofits at big ones are going to make million-dollar salaries.

00:12:49.000 And it is, I honestly think it's stupid that people get mad about this because if you want CEO-level talent, you have to pay CEO-level wages.

00:12:57.000 Usually, it's not going to be identical. 0.97

00:12:59.000 You know, I think Charlie was getting, I think they say he was around a million bucks between the four between four different nonprofits, and he was worth substantially more than that.

00:13:06.000 His show alone was probably bringing way more anyway.

00:13:09.000 But if Colvet or literally anybody was organizing some kind of deal, be it with Netanyahu or anyone else, now you can argue that in and of itself is wrong, but getting a commission on a donation is actually fairly routine for big organizations, especially when someone is working with they call it development.

00:13:26.000 So, the insinuation now is that Turning Point USA killed Charlie.

00:13:30.000 But the sledgehammer, of course, is when she says everybody should request a refund from this organization.

00:13:36.000 Now, obviously, y'all know that we have the minorest of drama issues with Turning Point.

00:13:43.000 We're not going to be there at Amfest, but it is what it is.

00:13:45.000 I ain't crying about it.

00:13:47.000 I talk to these guys relatively often, so whatever.

00:13:51.000 But the idea that you would try to destroy them and get everybody to pull their donations using the insinuation they murdered Charlie Kirk is evil.

00:14:01.000 It's evil.

00:14:03.000 My whole thing with this, because I get asked about what do you think about what Candace said, or what's like, look, I got no problem with people that want to question the official narrative.

00:14:12.000 No problem.

00:14:13.000 You know, I got questions about the whole 30 out 6 caliber and is this really going to, you know, did it do the damage, et cetera.

00:14:20.000 Sure.

00:14:21.000 What I don't understand, though, and I worded it to someone this way once.

00:14:25.000 I said, if I spent my entire life building an organization that I truly believed in, and I built a life with my wife who I absolutely loved, and somebody came out and started making accusations that both the organization that I built and dedicated my life to and the woman I dedicated my life to were somehow complicit in my murder.

00:14:45.000 I would hope, I would hope that they had real receipts before they were willing to put my wife or my organization, my life's work on the line for that.

00:14:58.000 Again, you can ask all you want, but I would hope before people would believe that, you would actually be bringing something fairly concrete.

00:15:05.000 Has Candace and I'd hope that, well, I can only imagine that if/slash when I die, I got a lot of text messages with people that can be made to sound.

00:15:15.000 You know, I wonder if I could like, you could take any text message from me to anybody else and make it sound crazy.

00:15:21.000 Let me see if I can find especially Tebbs.

00:15:24.000 Well, hold on, I'm grabbing Phil over here.

00:15:28.000 Let's see.

00:15:30.000 I'm going to, I'm going to, hold on.

00:15:32.000 What is what is this?

00:15:32.000 What is this?

00:15:33.000 I'm sure that there are sufficient text messages in my phone that would do me in.

00:15:40.000 I'm trying to find a text from Phil that's not really like bad.

00:15:43.000 It's kind of vague.

00:15:47.000 There's hard R's, straight hard R's all the time.

00:15:49.000 I mean, there's just the N-word like crazy.

00:15:50.000 I don't want to read any of those.

00:15:51.000 No, but like, I'm not going to read anything explicitly, but like the point I'm making is I just pulled up the text I have with Phil.

00:15:57.000 And here's one.

00:15:59.000 Hey, Tim, thanks again for today.

00:16:00.000 When you get a chance, can you shoot me Chad's number?

00:16:02.000 And then all I have to do is go, here's a message from Phil.

00:16:06.000 Chad, I remember that day when we were all hanging out.

00:16:10.000 It was so sad.

00:16:11.000 And, you know, Phil looked at me and he said, brother, we're in this together.

00:16:15.000 And I went, I'm right there with you.

00:16:17.000 That's what she's doing.

00:16:18.000 She's just showing like any random text.

00:16:21.000 And it's just, it's really gross.

00:16:26.000 How much, like, how much stuff has she actually shown?

00:16:28.000 I'm not following.

00:16:29.000 So I don't, I can't say that I've watched every episode she's ever done, but I watched her show today.

00:16:34.000 And what I will say is when everyone, I've watched a handful of her shows.

00:16:37.000 I've watched the ones that are relevant to what we're, you know, what's been going on, but I don't follow all of it.

00:16:43.000 And then I always hear people be like, she's not claiming Turning Point was involved.

00:16:46.000 And I'm like, then you didn't watch the show where she was like, inside job. 0.99

00:16:50.000 That's how I feel.

00:16:51.000 I have no, what else can you think?

00:16:52.000 Regicide.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, regicide.

00:16:55.000 And the fact that she says things like, the caveat's always, that's how I feel.

00:16:59.000 And it's not any kind of actually substantial evidence.

00:17:05.000 It's all implication.

00:17:06.000 And she's covering her tracks by saying, this is how I feel.

00:17:09.000 I hate the whole thing.

00:17:11.000 Like from top to bottom, all of the stuff that's that all of the people talking about Charlie's murder, post-Charlie's murder, it all just seems like sharks in the water looking to pick up their little bit of attention they can get.

00:17:29.000 I have to say this, but I'm not going to say who told me it.

00:17:32.000 But this issue, of course, comes up in these private circles.

00:17:36.000 I get asked by a lot of people I meet who know who I am.

00:17:39.000 The first thing they ask me about is Candace and what she said about Turning Point.

00:17:42.000 And I have to be like, let's just stop and analyze what she said.

00:17:46.000 And like, you tell me what you think.

00:17:47.000 But someone today was talking to me about it and they were just like, you know, Candace has made a lot of insinuations. 0.96

00:17:54.000 And this latest one with like Andrew Colvette losing millions of dollars, like the implication that he's going after Charlie or whatever.

00:18:00.000 And then this person I'm talking to goes like, you know, he's not a chess player.

00:18:07.000 And that's like the nicest way of saying, with all due respect to Colvette, that he, he doesn't have the capability to plot something of this.

00:18:15.000 I'm not trying to be a dick, but like the insinuation that their spokesperson had the capability to map out this plan involving the French Foreign Legion and his Israeli spies and like getting security pulled from the roof.

00:18:27.000 Just all of that's required.

00:18:29.000 Now, I got to be honest, I've worked with security companies where I've met people who you can tell have that capability.

00:18:33.000 And I'm sure you have too.

00:18:35.000 It's not as easy as people want to make it out to be.

00:18:37.000 It's absolutely not.

00:18:39.000 And any, any, like we talked about it before, like a single janitor walking up to the roof would have ruined the whole thing.

00:18:44.000 So there's all these little nooks and crannies that have to be available.

00:18:48.000 And that's why I think it is actually very strange.

00:18:51.000 When Charlie's security was like, we just, the police said it was, you know, it was fine.

00:18:55.000 And I'm like, nah, that don't add up.

00:18:55.000 They got it.

00:18:57.000 Like security companies don't just be like, we know there's roof access and we're not going to put an old lady knitting in front of the door. 1.00

00:19:02.000 Like you have an old lady knitting in front of the door and Charlie's alive. 0.70

00:19:05.000 So that does not add up.

00:19:06.000 I mean, and, you know, Occam's razor, Hanlon's razor, it's just a very, very awful security company.

00:19:11.000 But to then go and insinuate that the people who are made rich by Charlie turned on him, I, you know, the comments that I made before that got them upset with me was that I said there are people at Turning Point that fear they can't make it without Charlie.

00:19:26.000 The people at Turning Point, like they all, they all stood to make significantly more money with Charlie at the helm than after Charlie's passed away.

00:19:36.000 But who, real quick, but that's correct.

00:19:38.000 Now, who stands to make the most money from this story?

00:19:42.000 Currently, it seems like Candace Owens.

00:19:44.000 Indeed.

00:19:45.000 Talking about how she's the biggest podcast, connecting this with the Macrones to tie it to the Bridget Macron as a man thing.

00:19:52.000 I got to be honest, right now we're looking at dropping CPMs for political content.

00:19:57.000 I was having a conversation.

00:19:59.000 You know, it's kind of a vague thing to say because I don't want to drag other prominent personalities.

00:20:02.000 But let me just say this.

00:20:03.000 I routinely talk with Jack Pisobic and Benny Johnson and Steven Crowder and a bunch of these guys, as well as ad bookers, buyers.

00:20:10.000 We have these conversations all the time.

00:20:12.000 And you know what I can say?

00:20:15.000 This one I have no problem actually mentioning.

00:20:16.000 I was talking with Jeremy Hambley from The Quartering.

00:20:18.000 And because he's made several videos talking about the decline of political content, viewership, CPMs.

00:20:24.000 And I told him, I was like, well, look, I got to be honest.

00:20:28.000 There were some people who came up to Tate, producer Tate, and mentioned, like, how come Tim's views are still good?

00:20:34.000 Like, everyone else is dropping.

00:20:36.000 And I'm like, well, you know, our viewership has gone down for sure in the season.

00:20:39.000 But, you know, my morning show is doing pretty much the same as it always has, minus like, I was sick or like off for holidays.

00:20:45.000 And so they asked these questions.

00:20:47.000 I was talking to Jeremy Hamley about it.

00:20:48.000 And I said, look, I got to be honest.

00:20:50.000 How evil are you willing to be?

00:20:52.000 Is the question.

00:20:53.000 And when we're at the end of, we're coming off the back year of this election season.

00:20:58.000 It was abnormally large this year.

00:21:01.000 It's supposed to be a dead year completely.

00:21:03.000 After every election, everyone says, turn it off.

00:21:05.000 I don't want politics.

00:21:06.000 And we actually got to squeeze some out of it because Donald Trump was doing, making bold moves.

00:21:11.000 But now we're getting the holiday season and people are like, okay, enough.

00:21:14.000 I want to hear about why the Bears are actually, Bears are in first place.

00:21:17.000 Is that what's going on?

00:21:18.000 In the NFL?

00:21:19.000 Yeah.

00:21:20.000 In the NFC East, is it?

00:21:21.000 I have no idea.

00:21:22.000 I don't know if you guys have to do it.

00:21:22.000 The Vikings are having a doo-doo season.

00:21:24.000 All I know is my buddies from Chicago are like, can you believe that the Bears are actually leading?

00:21:28.000 And I was like, is that true?

00:21:29.000 That's what people care about right now.

00:21:31.000 But I said, listen, there's two things you can do.

00:21:33.000 What most people do is they try to figure out what kind of content can I make that people actually are interested in.

00:21:38.000 You know, we are in the business of trying to inform an audience on what they want, but also not just giving them red meat.

00:21:46.000 The point is, can I cover new subjects you are interested in?

00:21:51.000 So what we've found inadvertently is that the space weather stuff does really nine and three, right?

00:21:57.000 Very good.

00:21:57.000 It's massive.

00:21:58.000 Seriously.

00:21:59.000 And so, but anyway, when we talk about space weather and the auroras, we get massive viewership.

00:22:05.000 But we don't just do that because we think we'll get massive viewership.

00:22:07.000 We actually, we're all genuinely interested.

00:22:09.000 You know, Shane's here and he's talking about it.

00:22:12.000 And then I've interviewed Ben Davidson before.

00:22:14.000 And so, you know, again, telling Jeremy, I was like, you can do things like that and try and figure out, you have an audience.

00:22:20.000 They're asking for commentary.

00:22:22.000 Are you providing the commentary they're asking for?

00:22:25.000 Or you can do what Candace does and show old text mentions when Met 2018.

00:22:29.000 You can make vague insinuations that they can't sue you over and then be vague enough to where people think there's a grand conspiracy and do a true crime drama where you accuse the French first lady of having a dong.

00:22:39.000 And you will get millions of views and you will make lots of money for which now I think it's, I don't know, a fortune is saying she makes around 10 million a year. 0.74

00:22:47.000 And I'd estimate more than that. 0.90

00:22:48.000 So that's to say, you don't think she's just ignorant.

00:22:51.000 You think she's with malice for financial gain and social media clicks.

00:22:57.000 Malice in the legal sense, I think that she is fully cognizant of what she's doing.

00:23:04.000 And I do not say it lightly that I think she's a genius, right?

00:23:08.000 You know, it reminds me of that Harry Potter line where Snape says, you know, Dumbledore is a great wizard and Belatrix, it's all mad. 0.98

00:23:14.000 He's like, he is a great wizard and only a fool. 0.96

00:23:16.000 Yeah, Candace Owens is ridiculously smart. 1.00

00:23:21.000 I've told the story.

00:23:21.000 I went on her show when she's Daily Wire and I was shocked by how quick-witted, intelligent, and well-read she was.

00:23:28.000 Even before the show, she knew all current news.

00:23:32.000 I'm like, she must be reading nearly as much news as I do to know what she knows and to put these dots together.

00:23:37.000 She's very, very intelligent.

00:23:39.000 So when I see the things she's saying and I know these techniques and manipulation, like when she said, I'll be off the air this week as an update, the White House confirmed receipt of the assassination plot against me.

00:23:50.000 It's manipulative language intentionally to trick people into thinking she's going into hiding because of an assassination plot.

00:23:54.000 And I saw an account today that's following all this and they say, well, the White House has confirmed the threat.

00:24:00.000 No, the White House confirmed receipt of the threat.

00:24:05.000 This is an important distinction.

00:24:06.000 This isn't minor.

00:24:08.000 And again, I go back.

00:24:10.000 I have not spent any time on any of my show or my social media going after Candace Owens for any of this stuff, right?

00:24:16.000 I'm like, whatever.

00:24:18.000 But my issue comes down to, okay, fine.

00:24:21.000 Once again, if you're going to make this sort of accusations, if it were me, if you were making these accusations about people I loved, I would want more evidence than what you're presenting.

00:24:30.000 The other thing that I don't understand is this.

00:24:31.000 If you honestly believe that you have uncovered something that could potentially blow the lid off of one of the most consequential conspiracies, and I don't say conspiracy pejoratively, I mean the actual word and what the word means.

00:24:44.000 Okay, look, I've done a little intel analysis in my life where I was tracking terror cells.

00:24:49.000 My father was a homicide detective, and he will tell you that if you really do have all of these sources that are providing you information, every time you go out there and publicly talk about private sources close to people that are doing it, you essentially destroy that source's ability to give you future information because now they lose access and placement as the organizations that you're investigating shut down.

00:25:10.000 So my question is this.

00:25:11.000 For anybody that is, again, just genuinely interested in this, and, you know, again, there's plenty to be interested in.

00:25:19.000 If your goal is really to get to the truth, to the bottom of what happened, what really happened with Charlie, if that is, why would you go about doing it this way as an investigation?

00:25:30.000 I know why you would do it as a content creator.

00:25:33.000 I don't know why you would do it as someone that's trying to get to the bottom of, again, a horrific crime.

00:25:38.000 You know, I watched her show today.

00:25:40.000 It's very female-coded. 0.98

00:25:42.000 And that means she talked a lot about Charlie's clothing.

00:25:46.000 And it was very much like Charlie was trying to find something to wear.

00:25:50.000 And I said, you can't wear that jacket.

00:25:52.000 And it's very emotional social female coding. 0.78

00:25:55.000 Guys don't talk or think this way.

00:25:57.000 And that's why she also has the Stanley, you know, thermos or whatever.

00:26:00.000 It's a very female trendy thing. 1.00

00:26:02.000 And it's been reported previously that she and Brett Cooper and others, it's the womanosphere, right?

00:26:08.000 The trad wife, prominent conservative women.

00:26:10.000 It's a true crime drama and it plays really, really well among women. 0.82

00:26:15.000 And I think that's the play she's making.

00:26:17.000 But let's jump to the story from Fortune.

00:26:19.000 Hey, a lot of big news about Candace inside the economics of Candace Owens' media empire and the Macron lawsuit threatening to unravel it.

00:26:27.000 Oh boy, let's talk about nitty-gritty inside stuff because I got information.

00:26:31.000 So they say five years ago, Candace Owens was a mid-tier political operative working for Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA.

00:26:36.000 Now she's a globally famous conservative firebrand with one of the fastest growing independent media platforms in the U.S., raking in cash through controversy. 1.00

00:26:43.000 But the same contrarian playbook that launched her solo career now threatens the media empire she built. 0.95

00:26:47.000 Her company generates up to $10 million in revenues per year, according to an analysis by Fortune, implying that the company's valuation would be multiples of that.

00:26:56.000 I would actually estimate, it's a broad estimation, but I think $10 million is low.

00:27:03.000 $10 million makes sense if all she is doing is sponsor spots. 1.00

00:27:07.000 But if she's doing anything else outside of that.

00:27:10.000 So if you want to talk about just her podcast, perhaps.

00:27:14.000 I guess I'll say this because I said it before, but we do more than that.

00:27:17.000 And, you know, I guess the difference is I do like five different shows.

00:27:21.000 So it's more granular where she has one big show. 1.00

00:27:24.000 We have a bunch of smaller shows.

00:27:25.000 So maybe, but I think she probably does closer to 20, 20 million or so.

00:27:31.000 But who knows?

00:27:32.000 Who knows?

00:27:32.000 Revenues are down, although her show seems to be doing very well.

00:27:36.000 They're now talking about this massive lawsuit.

00:27:38.000 The conservative podcaster and provocateur is facing a high-stakes defamation lawsuit filed by French President Emmanuel Macron and Bridget Macron, the first lady.

00:27:46.000 The suit is set to test whether the controversy as currency ouvre that made, is that how you pronounce that?

00:27:51.000 Oev, ouvra?

00:27:53.000 I have no idea.

00:27:54.000 That made Owens rich and gave her a media brand that reaches tens of millions of people can survive what experts say will be an immensely costly legal battle. 1.00

00:28:01.000 The 219-page complaint filed in Delaware Superior Court in July of 2025 accuses Owens of orchestrating a campaign of global humiliation by promoting the conspiracy theory that Bridget McCrone was born male.

00:28:11.000 The plaintiff's weapon of choice, Claire Locke, the firm that has extracted a record-shattering $787.5 million settlement from Fox News on behalf of Dominion, the largest media defamation payout in American history, the Macron's vehemently deny Owens' allegations.

00:28:26.000 Owens has vowed to fight the suit.

00:28:28.000 Interestingly, the suit alleges that spreading false information is essentially Owens' business model.

00:28:33.000 The complaint names three defendants, Candace Owens personally, Candace Owens LLC, her Delaware company, and Georgetown Inc., presumably named after her husband, George Farmer, who is directly involved in the business and operates her website and podcast distribution.

00:28:45.000 In naming all three parties, the suit takes aim not only at Owens personally, but also her entire known business infrastructure.

00:28:52.000 She won't win.

00:28:53.000 She will not win this.

00:28:55.000 I can't say that I'm psychic or that everything I say is going to come true, but she won't.

00:29:00.000 I will say with, you know, look, I'm willing to make predictions and try and make vague predictions.

00:29:06.000 You know, maybe at this time something like this would happen, but who knows?

00:29:08.000 I could be wrong.

00:29:09.000 With this, I'll say she will lose for two big reasons.

00:29:13.000 Bridget McCrone is not a man.

00:29:17.000 It's not so much whether Bridget McCrone is a man or is not.

00:29:18.000 I mean, who knows?

00:29:19.000 Maybe, I guess.

00:29:20.000 I don't need proof.

00:29:21.000 Yeah, I don't.

00:29:23.000 Yeah, I don't want proof.

00:29:25.000 The issue is it's kind of a bold, ridiculous, and hard-to-prove thing that is going to land on defamation per se, which is it is so humiliating and damning because it's not just that Bridget Macron is a man, but apparently Candace has also insinuated that it's a pedophilic network or something, or at least that's what people are posting online saying it's not just about this.

00:29:45.000 There's more here.

00:29:47.000 And apparently there's some reporting that Candace has claimed Bridget Macron may be Emmanuel Macron's dad.

00:29:52.000 Yeah.

00:29:54.000 But that makes no sense because Bridget Macron is much smaller, but whatever, I guess. 0.97

00:29:59.000 But here's the real reason.

00:30:01.000 When the French government says we're going to your courts, the way the world works is not some rigid contractual letter-of-the-law math.

00:30:09.000 People consistently fall for this.

00:30:12.000 They believe that, you know, there's a viral clip I watched, the Thomas Crown affair, where Pierce Brazn signs the contract and then they start busting out laughing, like, ha we got you.

00:30:22.000 And then he gets up and says, now explain to your board why you paid 30 million more than everyone else offered.

00:30:27.000 And they look all shocked.

00:30:28.000 But the thing is, if you ever signed a contract and then as soon as you signed it, the guy started laughing, saying they got you, that contract is not going to be binding.

00:30:36.000 You're not going to go into a court and the judge is going to be like, was there something in the contract you didn't read?

00:30:40.000 And be like, yeah, we absolutely did not agree that I'd signed over power of attorney.

00:30:43.000 The judge is going to be like, okay, contract is out. 1.00

00:30:47.000 It's the stupidest idea. 1.00

00:30:48.000 So here's what really matters. 1.00

00:30:50.000 When the French government says we want to stop Candace, I imagine what happens is, you know, Candace has claimed Trump called her and told her, like, you know, maybe you got to back off the story or whatever.

00:31:01.000 Okay.

00:31:03.000 If the Macron's were actually trying to stop Candace, likely, I think the most likely scenario is they call the State Department and they say, this is causing us problems in our country and we don't want these tensions.

00:31:14.000 And the State Department says, what can we do about it?

00:31:17.000 And then all that needs to happen is Emmanuel Macron says, listen, we are telling you to make it stop however you can.

00:31:24.000 And if you don't, there's going to be problems.

00:31:27.000 And France is massive.

00:31:29.000 So it's not like France can control what the United States does, but the U.S. has to negotiate with France, has to cut deals with France, has to work with France and NATO, and they don't want problems. 1.00

00:31:42.000 And it's stupid. 0.95

00:31:44.000 So likely what I'd imagine Abbey's State Department says, file a lawsuit, go through the normal route and we'll make sure you win. 0.99

00:31:50.000 I don't see a reality where Candace goes up against the French government and the U.S. backs her over a NATO ally. 0.71

00:31:57.000 So here's the thing here.

00:31:58.000 Candace Owens is clearly an extremely savvy media operator. 0.79

00:32:02.000 She is very charismatic.

00:32:04.000 Some people would even say she's easy on the eyes. 0.76

00:32:06.000 She's also a good DEI commentator for right-wingers to put on this sort of pedestal. 0.98

00:32:13.000 And, you know, it's really unfortunate that she's really willing to peddle bullshit and rumors and spin up fake narratives to try to get clicks. 0.98

00:32:22.000 It seems it's clear to me that she has an axe to grind. 0.99

00:32:24.000 I don't think this is just ignorance.

00:32:26.000 I think what she knows, she knows that she's spreading stuff that is BS, but she believes it will get her clicks.

00:32:33.000 And I believe somebody wronged her in the past and she is trying to avenge that.

00:32:37.000 So you think that it's an axe to grind as opposed to just trying to capitalize on what is a hot story?

00:32:42.000 It's a few.

00:32:43.000 I think it's both.

00:32:44.000 And also, this gives her endless amounts of attention. 0.95

00:32:47.000 This lawsuit may cost her a lot of money, but her husband is allegedly worth over 200 million.

00:32:52.000 He has a lot of family money.

00:32:53.000 And he's, I believe, allegedly the former CEO of Parlor.

00:32:56.000 So, you know, the amount of attention that this is giving her, you know, she knew that this, I don't know if she believes what she's alleging about Bridget McCrone, but I think she does know that it'll bring her a ton of attention.

00:33:07.000 It's a transvestigation of obviously like, you know, a very prominent woman, a prominent European leader's wife.

00:33:15.000 Do you have evidence that she's a woman?

00:33:17.000 The evidence was that, or the evidence that she was a man was from two French bloggers or something, and they just had a couple of pictures of them, of her looking like a man allegedly.

00:33:17.000 Hello.

00:33:26.000 But I think as far as the media savviness goes, though, if you're trying to get your name out there, you want a lot of to put a lot of bullshit out there and then have them get mad at you and sue you because like this is the Streisand effect at hand. 0.97

00:33:38.000 And then I think there's also to say something to say about all the other bullshit she peddles because she's been pushing a lot of dumb stuff for a while. 0.99

00:33:44.000 She actually said Stalin was Jewish. 0.99

00:33:46.000 I don't know if you guys remember that.

00:33:48.000 Lyndon Johnson.

00:33:49.000 Something about the frankest.

00:33:50.000 I mean, there's a long list of random things.

00:33:52.000 Lyndon Johnson was Jewish.

00:33:53.000 Listen.

00:33:54.000 And then I think she was also a flat earther for a little bit. 0.95

00:33:57.000 Stalin a pedal, whatever.

00:33:58.000 And then, I'm sorry, one last thing.

00:34:00.000 She'll get like messages or alleged tips and just, I don't know, won't vet them at all.

00:34:04.000 For example, earlier when she said something about like a text message about Andrew Colve allegedly getting money, it's just like, yeah, somebody texted me this.

00:34:10.000 And that's like, that's it.

00:34:11.000 Well, somebody could text you anything.

00:34:13.000 Like, I have a source that says such and such.

00:34:15.000 But if there's no vetting.

00:34:16.000 I want her number so I can text her about the ice wall.

00:34:18.000 Hey, hey, can you text me right now that you think Candace works for Israel so that I can then say on the air, I just received a tip that Candace works for Israel. 0.97

00:34:24.000 There's no vetting.

00:34:25.000 And it's just like some people are dumb enough where the rhetoric, the way she phrases things could come off like to an unmedia savvy person, like, oh, this is convincing. 0.94

00:34:34.000 This is basic manipulative rhetoric, social engineering, where you say things so that the other person makes an assumption and then you can't be held liable for it. 0.97

00:34:45.000 And you always have plausible deniability.

00:34:48.000 That's the game she's playing.

00:34:50.000 That's why everyone keeps pointing out she's making insinuations and then people go, she never said that. 0.97

00:34:56.000 No, but she said 80 things where the Sudoku puzzle concludes.

00:35:02.000 I wish at some point people would think about this from the standpoint of, okay, if somebody was saying this about you, would you think to yourself, oh, well, they didn't say me.

00:35:12.000 Or would you think they're obviously implying me?

00:35:15.000 And all I want from this, especially because there's a lot of conservatives watching this, is, do we still believe in like standards of truth?

00:35:22.000 Do we still believe in like objective standards of truth?

00:35:25.000 We are in a post-truth system.

00:35:27.000 Not if it confirms my priors.

00:35:29.000 If it confirms my priors, then it does not matter if it is.

00:35:32.000 But this is the point of vagaries.

00:35:34.000 If someone believes five untruths and you come out and say something that is incongruous with their worldview, they reject you.

00:35:43.000 But if you say something very vague, let them fill the dots in.

00:35:46.000 You're correct.

00:35:47.000 And that's how she builds mass audience by being correct to everybody because she's actually not saying anything specific. 0.79

00:35:53.000 She's letting people fill in the gaps of what they want to believe.

00:35:57.000 What I do want to say real quick, though, you know, if I were to say Bridget McCrone's a hog, okay, I can't be sued by the French government for that. 0.72

00:36:06.000 But when you say that Bridget McCrone's a man, you're getting into defamation per se territory where you're accusing someone of some kind of, it's something disgusting and humiliating, which is inherently in and of itself detrimental to you, your life, or whatever.

00:36:22.000 I think she's going to get Alex Jones, but I think they're going to come and they're going to take everything from her.

00:36:28.000 I can't understand what she thinks the long-term play is.

00:36:31.000 That's why I can't, I can't.

00:36:32.000 Well, her husband's rich.

00:36:32.000 I don't know.

00:36:33.000 I don't think she's financially secure no matter what happens.

00:36:36.000 They're married.

00:36:37.000 He's on the hook too.

00:36:38.000 They're going to go for him.

00:36:39.000 His company's named in the lawsuit.

00:36:42.000 I wonder if he presumably they say.

00:36:44.000 I wonder if the British government would protect him.

00:36:47.000 Aren't they based in the U.S.?

00:36:49.000 I don't know what if he's a lord, if he's somehow involved.

00:36:53.000 I don't know.

00:36:53.000 I don't know how passionate Kier Starmer is about the peerage in the UK.

00:37:00.000 Wouldn't it be really funny if just the UK and France go to war for the first time in like 800 years because Candace called Bridget McCrone a man?

00:37:08.000 I think one of the reasons why this is so important.

00:37:11.000 Yes.

00:37:13.000 I think the reason why this is so important is because this actually, I think like conspiracy, driving conspiracies really drives, draws away from people dealing with like legitimate politics that they could have the potential to influence.

00:37:25.000 So instead of learning about your local congressperson or what they're doing in the House and Senate or what's going on in the Supreme Court, no, we're paying attention to whether or not Bridget McCrone has a cock or whether or not Charlie Kirk was murdered by Israel.

00:37:36.000 Although baselessly, though, that's the problem.

00:37:39.000 I have a correction too.

00:37:40.000 I should say start the first war in 200 years. 0.98

00:37:44.000 Sorry.

00:37:44.000 It hasn't been that long.

00:37:45.000 I've actually fought not that long ago.

00:37:47.000 But to what you were saying, Elad, this is the point about declining viewership and ad rates.

00:37:56.000 Maybe it's fair to say that Candace actually does 10 million because no advertiser really wants to be on a show about Bridget McCrone having a dong. 1.00

00:38:03.000 Advertisers want to be on normal content.

00:38:04.000 They want to be on sports.

00:38:06.000 They're relaxing.

00:38:06.000 Everybody's watching.

00:38:07.000 Nothing's offensive.

00:38:08.000 You know, it's just fun stuff.

00:38:10.000 And, you know, perhaps when she makes this kind of weird content, she gets more views.

00:38:14.000 She does make more money than the average political commentator, but the CPMs are actually still very low.

00:38:20.000 The thing that has always struck me about this, I remember when Candace first started making these claims.

00:38:24.000 And I was like, okay, you know, like, look, I remember a time where I watched a lot of things Candace was doing and appreciated her commentary and appreciated her contributions to the conservative movement.

00:38:35.000 If she's very convinced, I just would like to see substantial evidence to back it up.

00:38:40.000 And again, I had really thought, I had really thought that the majority of sympathy in this entire case was going to be for Erica.

00:38:48.000 And what has shocked me is I feel like it isn't.

00:38:54.000 And again, if you're going to imply, if you're going to insinuate that Erica, if she wasn't directly involved, knew something about it, let it go is hiding truth or whatever it is.

00:39:07.000 Just please show me something significant to justify that.

00:39:10.000 Because again, I go back to, I think about this from my perspective.

00:39:14.000 If somebody did this to my wife after I was gone, I would be furious unless they could actually produce hard evidence.

00:39:21.000 The last thing I'll say on this before we go to the next story is she will never be sued by turning point.

00:39:26.000 Turning Point USA, oh boy, do they have grounds to sue Candace Owens, but they're not going to.

00:39:32.000 They're not going to because the law doesn't work to protect you or any meaningful way.

00:39:38.000 Like I've illustrated before that we had someone commit a crime on our property and then threaten us.

00:39:42.000 They got arrested and charged.

00:39:43.000 And then they threatened to use the legal process through this criminal charge, almost like it was intentional, to exploit it and gain access to private information and other information.

00:39:53.000 And they made the argument that in order for our defense, we need access to private information.

00:39:57.000 And we were like, okay, drop the charges then.

00:39:59.000 We're not going to, we can't.

00:40:01.000 And so here's what happens: if Turning Point were to sue Candace Owens, there would be depositions and discovery. 0.52

00:40:07.000 And they'd be required to turn over certain communications, which I'd imagine are going to be embarrassing.

00:40:14.000 And depending on the context, they can be incriminating over certain issues.

00:40:19.000 I'm not saying in the killing of Charlie Kirk or anything like that, but there's going to be conversations about donors, things that she will then use on her show.

00:40:25.000 Yeah.

00:40:26.000 And it will give her a year's worth of content.

00:40:28.000 So they can do nothing about her saying any of this stuff.

00:40:31.000 And she'll just keep saying it.

00:40:33.000 And the fascinating thing is, she's been able to get more than two months of content out of saying nothing.

00:40:41.000 No evidence.

00:40:43.000 No real.

00:40:45.000 Can we distinguish something?

00:40:46.000 Because I hear people the same.

00:40:47.000 She brings the receipts.

00:40:48.000 She has the evidence.

00:40:49.000 Like, okay.

00:40:50.000 What?

00:40:51.000 Well, let's look at what do you consider to be evidence.

00:40:53.000 So if you look at flight logs and you say, these flight legs are interesting.

00:40:56.000 Okay.

00:40:57.000 You could present that as evidence of what?

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:01.000 Like, that's what I want.

00:41:03.000 I can essentially conjure up just about anything as evidence of something suspicious.

00:41:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:10.000 But there's a big difference between I find this to be suggestive or I find this to be interesting versus this proves X.

00:41:18.000 And that's the part that I'm seeing people throw around this word evidence as if it's proof of something that it isn't proof of.

00:41:26.000 It might be interesting.

00:41:27.000 If you connect certain dots, it may be whatever, but it's not evidence.

00:41:31.000 And I guarantee you, nobody here would want to be convicted in a court of law based off of the evidence that has been presented.

00:41:40.000 You would be furious.

00:41:41.000 You would think it was a huge miscarriage of justice.

00:41:44.000 And yet I'm watching people say, well, see?

00:41:47.000 I have a question for everyone for all the Candace fans out there.

00:41:49.000 It's an honest question.

00:41:51.000 And I asked this question a couple of times before, but why is it that she has a huge podcast and she's not getting banned?

00:41:57.000 Nick Fuentes got banned on Spotify, not her.

00:42:00.000 She's number one.

00:42:01.000 She's on the front page of YouTube recommendations for everybody who subscribes.

00:42:05.000 She gets millions of views.

00:42:06.000 She gets massive live viewership.

00:42:08.000 I thought it's, you know, it's actually her own words that if you criticize Israel, you'll get suspended, banned, and censored, but not her.

00:42:14.000 Why is it that the person who claims that Charlie was betrayed is actually the one trying to destroy his legacy and the company that he built?

00:42:20.000 Turning point, you know, Andrew Colvette and Erica and the rest, you know, Tyler Boyer and the rest of them at Turning Point are fighting as hard as they can to keep Turning Point alive.

00:42:30.000 You don't got to like Turning Point.

00:42:31.000 I'm not saying they're good or great.

00:42:32.000 I mean, they were under Charlie.

00:42:33.000 I think they were fantastic as to where they are.

00:42:35.000 Now, like, we'll see what happens.

00:42:36.000 Obviously, we're not going to be there.

00:42:37.000 So, you know, I'm not, it's not like I've got, I'm happy with the direction it's going, but she's actively trying to destroy Charlie Kirk's legacy. 0.91

00:42:46.000 So the question is: who really betrayed Charlie Kirk?

00:42:49.000 Because if Charlie were still around, like, if Charlie could speak, do you think he'd be like, oh, gee, thanks, Candace.

00:42:55.000 Thank you for telling all the donors to abandon Turning Point USA.

00:42:57.000 Well, here's my, here's my, I'll put it differently.

00:43:02.000 Candace Owens, based off of what she's done here and what she's been, you know, putting out there, Candace Owens, there's only one of two possible options.

00:43:11.000 She is either Charlie Kirk's greatest friend who stood up to everybody when they called her a liar or they called her psycho, that she was, she is either that or she is a horrible betraying villain in this story.

00:43:25.000 What about that one?

00:43:26.000 That's maybe so, but you see what I'm saying?

00:43:29.000 That's the point.

00:43:30.000 I'm seeing a lot of people analyze this.

00:43:32.000 It's like, wait a second, no, no, no.

00:43:33.000 If you look at the claims that she's made, it's one of the two.

00:43:36.000 It's one of the two.

00:43:38.000 It really breaks down on one issue, though.

00:43:41.000 I feel like.

00:43:42.000 I feel like if you have a how you feel about one particular issue really prescribes how you, whether or not you think she is a villain or not.

00:43:49.000 I don't even need to say the issue, but you could tell she's laser-focused on it and she'll drag it into everything else.

00:43:55.000 So it really begs the question because she used to have a great relationship with the Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro, and then that had to figure out for one reason or another.

00:44:04.000 And the same thing with Turning Point.

00:44:05.000 She hasn't been to MFest for years, as I understand.

00:44:07.000 She hasn't been a speaker or collaborating with Turning Point for years before this happened.

00:44:12.000 You have to wonder, you know, what made that fall through?

00:44:14.000 And maybe something.

00:44:16.000 Right, but let's just put it like this.

00:44:18.000 I mean, she had, what was it?

00:44:22.000 Originally, she was like a liberal and she had a doxing site and she left her conservatives and she got criticized for that. 0.82

00:44:26.000 But everybody can change, right?

00:44:28.000 Then she had Red Pill Black and Blexit.

00:44:32.000 She starts working with the Daily Wire and then has a falling out with them.

00:44:37.000 Then she starts, while she's been working at Turning Point at the same time, she has a falling out with them.

00:44:42.000 Then I believe it was the end of 23, she stops doing formal events for them, remaining Charlie's friend.

00:44:48.000 My opinion on everything as it went down is that the reason Charlie stayed friends with Candace was diplomacy.

00:44:57.000 It's actually quite simple.

00:44:59.000 Charlie was very intelligent and he built a coalition and he brought a bunch of different factions together under one umbrella.

00:45:05.000 So when he's texting with Candace and saying, yeah, you know, Ben, oh man, I know exactly how he is.

00:45:09.000 He's trying to stop her from raging, from crashing out and causing problems and doing what she's doing now.

00:45:15.000 So Charlie, she's basically removed from Turning Point.

00:45:18.000 She's no longer involved for the most part, but Charlie stays in context saying, Listen, like, we're friends.

00:45:23.000 Please don't hurt me.

00:45:24.000 Now that Charlie's gone, she's like, I will destroy everything Charlie has ever built.

00:45:28.000 Let me just stress this.

00:45:29.000 There is no excuse.

00:45:31.000 If you like Charlie Kirk and the work that he did, telling everyone to pull their donations is simply to destroy the organization.

00:45:38.000 By all means, you can be angry with Colvette and maybe Erica's leadership, whatever you might think.

00:45:44.000 Maybe you think someone else should come in and run it.

00:45:46.000 But the response should be: donors should all email and ask for new leadership, not destroy it and pull all your money out, which burns Charlie's legacy to the ground.

00:45:58.000 I think if there's anyone who betrayed Charlie Kirk, it is Candace Owens, and she has proven it time and time again.

00:46:03.000 Well, like you said, it would be one thing if you said, Here's all the evidence, donors pull your money.

00:46:09.000 That would be one thing.

00:46:10.000 But it's, I've got a bunch of evidence.

00:46:12.000 I'm going to do it later.

00:46:13.000 But donors, pull all your money right now.

00:46:15.000 Before I can prove it.

00:46:16.000 It's like, wait, look at the consequences of conservative DEI.

00:46:19.000 And we're reaping what we sowed.

00:46:21.000 Yeah, but I'll say it again.

00:46:22.000 I mean, Candace is very smart. 0.97

00:46:24.000 I mean, look, man.

00:46:25.000 Conniving, but I guess she could be both at the same time.

00:46:29.000 I'm going to tell a story that's going to get me in trouble.

00:46:30.000 I don't think I told the story before.

00:46:32.000 I'm going to tell a story that's going to get me in trouble.

00:46:33.000 All right, let's get in trouble.

00:46:34.000 I worked for Vice, and they were always trying to get this cable channel.

00:46:40.000 I had gotten some people hired there who were friends of mine who understood social media and live streaming.

00:46:46.000 And I ended up leaving the company, but news broke that Vice had gotten a Rogers telecom deal or teleco, whatever the word is.

00:46:54.000 This is a Canadian cable channel.

00:46:56.000 And congratulations to Vice at the time.

00:46:58.000 This is back in like 2014 or something.

00:46:59.000 Wow.

00:47:00.000 And so my buddy hits me up and he's, you know, how things are going, you know, because I left the company and he says, it's great.

00:47:06.000 I'm going to be doing production for the news show on the cable channel.

00:47:09.000 And I went, really?

00:47:11.000 And he's like, yeah.

00:47:12.000 And I was like, really, though?

00:47:14.000 I mean, you're not going to stay where you're at working on, you know, like domestic news, live stream stuff.

00:47:18.000 And he's like, no, no, I'm going to be doing the news stuff for the cable channel.

00:47:20.000 I was like, so are they going to move you to Toronto or what?

00:47:23.000 And he goes, why would I move to Toronto?

00:47:25.000 And then I said, for the cable channel.

00:47:27.000 And he goes, why would I move to Toronto?

00:47:31.000 And I said, because it's a Rogers Telecom deal for a cable channel.

00:47:34.000 He goes, dude, what are you talking about?

00:47:36.000 I said, the cable channel's in Canada.

00:47:38.000 So here's what happened.

00:47:40.000 He told me that Shane Smith, the CEO, held a meeting.

00:47:45.000 They had been having conversations throughout the year that they were working on getting a cable channel and it was their big dream to get a cable channel.

00:47:52.000 And everyone makes an assumption when you hear that, which is what, that he has to move to Canada?

00:47:58.000 No, When someone says, I want to start a cable channel, what do you immediately think?

00:48:03.000 In America.

00:48:04.000 Oh, yes.

00:48:05.000 Nobody thinks New Zealand.

00:48:08.000 So Shane comes out.

00:48:09.000 And the story I was told that he comes, he's got all the employees there and he says, We did it.

00:48:16.000 We got our cable channel.

00:48:18.000 Everyone starts cheering and screaming.

00:48:20.000 They immediately start working on production, all under the assumption that they made that he meant we got our American cable channel.

00:48:28.000 So my friend that I helped get hired is now going like, I didn't know that.

00:48:33.000 And I said, well, you know what's going to happen?

00:48:34.000 If you go to him and say, I don't want to go to Canada, he's going to say, I never said it was in America.

00:48:38.000 That's the manipulative language that you use to keep people in line.

00:48:42.000 You let them believe what they want so they feel good about what's going on.

00:48:46.000 Because if he came out and said, guys, we didn't get the American cable channel.

00:48:49.000 We do have a slow start, though. 0.95

00:48:51.000 30 million households in Canada through Rogers Telecom, people would go, that sucks.

00:48:55.000 Instead, he says, we did it.

00:48:57.000 It.

00:48:57.000 What does it refer to?

00:48:59.000 That's the manipulative language used by powerful people.

00:49:02.000 This is what Candace does. 1.00

00:49:03.000 So when she comes on her show and says, they betrayed Charlie, she's already said it feels like an inside job.

00:49:09.000 So what else could she be insinuating?

00:49:11.000 And then her diehards with fifth-grade reading levels are like, I am going to fill the dots whatever I want to be true. 1.00

00:49:18.000 So insert whether it's France or Israel or Turning Point or the CIA or the Deep State or Netanyahu himself.

00:49:26.000 It was really funny.

00:49:26.000 I had a guy tell me this over the weekend.

00:49:30.000 I couldn't tell.

00:49:31.000 He looked like he might have been Pakistani or something, but he said the Shapiros killed Charlie. 0.95

00:49:34.000 Candace, he said, Candace is right.

00:49:36.000 He's like, I love her show.

00:49:37.000 The Shapiros did it. 1.00

00:49:38.000 And I said, I'm not kidding.

00:49:39.000 I was like, the Shapiros? 1.00

00:49:41.000 Yeah.

00:49:41.000 And I was like, one of Ben's kids, right?

00:49:43.000 I was like, he didn't.

00:49:44.000 No, he didn't mean Ben's family.

00:49:46.000 He meant Ben's extended family.

00:49:47.000 Oh, okay.

00:49:48.000 Yeah.

00:49:48.000 But enough of this.

00:49:50.000 Let's talk about some of the things that we're talking about to third worldists.

00:49:53.000 Literally.

00:49:54.000 Let's jump to this inane story from NBC News. 0.78

00:49:58.000 Sabrina Carpenter slams the White House for using her song in evil and disgusting social media video. 0.78

00:50:04.000 Okay, let's play the evil and disgusting social media.

00:50:06.000 I wasn't probably going to watch it, but I want to see it.

00:50:08.000 Let's go.

00:50:13.000 Have you ever tried this one?

00:50:15.000 I've never tried.

00:50:16.000 This one, I've never tried.

00:50:17.000 This one.

00:50:18.000 I know you want my touch for life.

00:50:23.000 The White House.

00:50:25.000 Is that it?

00:50:26.000 Yeah.

00:50:26.000 Okay, so she's salty.

00:50:29.000 Where's the response? 0.97

00:50:30.000 She said, This video is evil and disgusting.

00:50:34.000 Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda.

00:50:38.000 She got 834,000 likes.

00:50:41.000 Bro, if I've ever seen a ratio, this is the ratio.

00:50:45.000 I mean, she's got 126,000 retweets, 834,000 likes.

00:50:52.000 And I got to be honest, the White House, they try to do a lot of these memes, but they're getting pretty cringe.

00:51:00.000 I think the White House edits have been crazy, especially that Theo Vaughn one, which he was also very big.

00:51:00.000 I disagree.

00:51:05.000 No, no, no, the Franklin one.

00:51:06.000 Those, but to be honest, he didn't make that one up.

00:51:11.000 Have you seen the new Franklin that are going, the Franklins are going viral?

00:51:13.000 Franklin's the new Pepe.

00:51:15.000 My favorite one is Franklin.

00:51:17.000 What is it?

00:51:18.000 It's like Franklin grows tired of immigrants acting And he's sitting there all like angry.

00:51:22.000 And it's like a Mexican fox and like an Arab squirrel or something. 0.91

00:51:27.000 Carno Bear Cub.

00:51:28.000 I went over to the Franklin's page on X and they were talking about how they're really big on inclusivity and the whole deal, but then they shut off their comments to only people that they allow you to like, oh, you're not that inclusive.

00:51:41.000 A lot of people are talking, or she's talking about how it's evil or how it's immoral and whatever.

00:51:46.000 And Sabrina Carpenter has used a lot of what people would consider sacrilegious imagery and stuff. 1.00

00:51:54.000 It's a little pot calling the kettle black.

00:51:57.000 She doesn't like the White House used it when it comes to enforcing immigration law, but she's perfectly comfortable with insulting Christians and get a rise out of people. 1.00

00:52:09.000 Here are the memes that work.

00:52:11.000 Celebrates kill those days.

00:52:14.000 Oh my gosh.

00:52:15.000 I never thought I'd like a Canadian cartoon this much.

00:52:18.000 Yep.

00:52:19.000 Let me try and find some more of these.

00:52:21.000 Bear on Christmas. 0.99

00:52:22.000 Kill those days. 1.00

00:52:23.000 Beautiful. 0.99

00:52:24.000 Oh, man.

00:52:25.000 Okay, here's the best one.

00:52:27.000 Franklin grows tired of immigrants and their behavior. 1.00

00:52:31.000 The Baron of Burka.

00:52:33.000 You know what I really love about these, though, as I was pointing out earlier, is that no one knows what turtles look like.

00:52:39.000 It's like he's wearing the shell.

00:52:41.000 People need to understand the shell is its spine.

00:52:45.000 Turtles are like the shell is their spine.

00:52:48.000 They are not wearing the shell.

00:52:50.000 I guess people watch too much ninja turtles.

00:52:52.000 In their behavior.

00:52:52.000 Yeah, they do.

00:52:53.000 They think that they can actually go inside the shell.

00:52:58.000 Look, Ninja Turtles was a documentary.

00:53:00.000 What's the one with Trump giving Franklin the presidential?

00:53:00.000 Wait a minute.

00:53:03.000 Yeah, it's because Logan Hall responded to Kids Can Press, who owns Franklin, saying, sorry, but Franklin belongs to us now.

00:53:11.000 Look at the, why is the fox a Mexican? 1.00

00:53:13.000 Oh, man.

00:53:14.000 And then you've got this beaver.

00:53:14.000 See, he's like Mexican.

00:53:16.000 Is this like Sikh? 1.00

00:53:16.000 What is this? 1.00

00:53:18.000 But then what is this squirrel?

00:53:18.000 Yeah, that's what I thought.

00:53:20.000 Oh, yeah, maybe the squirrel.

00:53:22.000 Just a regular turban? 1.00

00:53:24.000 Just a regular turban. 1.00

00:53:26.000 And then there's a Muslim bear cub with a briefcase for some reason. 0.99

00:53:30.000 It's impressive that you noticed that one as a Sikh. 0.98

00:53:33.000 There was a Republican congressman who just thought all Sikhs were also Muslims.

00:53:38.000 It's cultural nuance that you have there.

00:53:40.000 That's actually a really sad, very well-known story of a Sikh man who was murdered for 9-11.

00:53:44.000 Where was that?

00:53:45.000 It was like New Mexico or something, right?

00:53:46.000 Yeah.

00:53:47.000 He was just like, mind him was a bit someone thought he was a Muslim and killed him. 0.89

00:53:49.000 That's crazy, dude. 0.97

00:53:50.000 That's horrifying. 1.00

00:53:51.000 Stupid people. 1.00

00:53:52.000 Unfortunate. 1.00

00:53:54.000 We got angry Baron Stain Bears.

00:53:57.000 Here's one.

00:53:59.000 Franklin Lawrence.

00:54:04.000 Oh, Franklin's been radicalized.

00:54:06.000 He has been.

00:54:07.000 How is he wearing, look at the coat.

00:54:08.000 How is he wearing that coat?

00:54:11.000 The shell is hanging like a backpack.

00:54:13.000 Can you suspend reality just a little bit?

00:54:15.000 Just suspend disbelief a little bit.

00:54:16.000 Immigrants were learning there too about Floyd's autopsy.

00:54:19.000 So I guess the White House responded to Sabrina Carpenter. 1.00

00:54:24.000 They called her stupid. 1.00

00:54:26.000 Is that all they? 1.00

00:54:26.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:54:27.000 They posted on the White House or something?

00:54:27.000 What did they post?

00:54:29.000 I believe it was a big, long post, too.

00:54:31.000 Look, if you're going to reply, if you're going to clap back, it can't be long.

00:54:36.000 It can't be some big multiple paragraph reply.

00:54:40.000 It's not a dissertation.

00:54:41.000 Yeah.

00:54:42.000 That's why your mom works so your mom. 1.00

00:54:46.000 I got to say, I've been pretty impressed with DHS and their troll game has been pretty good.

00:54:54.000 I think it's fun.

00:54:55.000 There are a lot of people that are all kinds of offended because they say that it's beneath the White House, et cetera.

00:55:01.000 But nobody was complaining when Barack Obama was slowjamming the news on late night every chance that he got.

00:55:09.000 Yeah, I'm kind of over the, I'm offended by this.

00:55:12.000 Like, oh, okay.

00:55:12.000 I don't care.

00:55:14.000 You're offended by everything.

00:55:15.000 My response is more so like, ah, I'll do it more often then.

00:55:18.000 Yeah.

00:55:19.000 You know, whatever I got to do.

00:55:20.000 Thank you for telling the trolls.

00:55:23.000 I can't even find their responses.

00:55:24.000 Do we have it?

00:55:25.000 It was from Abigail.

00:55:28.000 She's a spokesperson. 0.98

00:55:29.000 Oh, so she responded.

00:55:30.000 She responded.

00:55:31.000 Abigail Jackson, the White House spokesperson.

00:55:34.000 I believe from her Twitter account.

00:55:34.000 From her account?

00:55:37.000 I don't know.

00:55:38.000 Yeah, labeled Carpenter. 1.00

00:55:40.000 Stupid in a statement. 1.00

00:55:41.000 So I don't know. 1.00

00:55:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:55:45.000 I don't know.

00:55:47.000 It's not even worth, you can't even find it.

00:55:49.000 Like, that's how that's how insignificant the responses was.

00:55:51.000 Like I said, clapbacks.

00:55:52.000 Clapbacks have to be short, concise.

00:55:54.000 That's why your mom works so well. 0.99

00:55:56.000 Like, look, if the White House just replied, if the White House reply with your mom, everybody would be like, boy, you know, it would have been a much better reply.

00:56:07.000 Look, I think they like this as a distraction.

00:56:09.000 I think posting memes and like Sabrina Carpenter's response got more millions of impressions than anything else I think that the White House put out today.

00:56:17.000 So I think they utilize this as a good distraction when they need one.

00:56:21.000 But they are putting out fire memes.

00:56:23.000 The DHS and White House Twitter account runners probably need a raise. 0.73

00:56:27.000 And that's that new frontier that they fight on online, the meme wars.

00:56:32.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it does matter, right?

00:56:34.000 I mean, there is an argument to be made that Donald Trump got memed into the White House in 2016.

00:56:40.000 All the people online that were constantly flooding social media and stuff with pro-Donald Trump memes really did have an effect on popular culture and the way that people perceived Donald Trump.

00:56:50.000 You know, it's funny is were you at the Pentagon today, Elad?

00:56:54.000 No, I was at Congress.

00:56:55.000 Ah, okay.

00:56:56.000 So all these news reports popped up where they were like, you know, Tim Poole and Laura Loomer and Jack Pesobic are at the Pentagon today.

00:57:04.000 And I'm like, I'm not at the Pentagon.

00:57:07.000 It's all fake.

00:57:08.000 It's all fake.

00:57:09.000 Peanut butter and jelly.

00:57:11.000 Peanut butter and jelly.

00:57:12.000 Shout out to my best friend in the poker room, Ken, because he was asking about this.

00:57:16.000 You signed that pledge for Trump.

00:57:18.000 And I was like, I filled out a press application so I can go to the Pentagon one time to do a podcast one time because sometimes people interview other people.

00:57:26.000 Like it is crazy that the perception they created in the press over the Pentagon thing is that we were all signing a loyalty pledge to the president when I was literally like, hey, guys, why don't we try and do, why don't we try and book Pete Hegseth?

00:57:40.000 And then they came back with, he can't because he's working all the time from the Pentagon.

00:57:44.000 And then one of the people who's been on the show that we know said, maybe we can find space for you guys to come and do the show in the Pentagon.

00:57:50.000 I said, okay.

00:57:50.000 That would be cool.

00:57:51.000 Then the team came back and said, we have to get press passes so that we can come in and do the show.

00:57:56.000 And I was like, okay, well, if we're going to have Pete Heggs on the show to talk about all this stuff, that'd be amazing because like having a direct access to the Secretary of War is tremendous.

00:58:04.000 There's a lot of questions we'll have.

00:58:05.000 And we'll even, we've got friends with a lot of questions.

00:58:07.000 Scott Horde will get questions from him and Dave, and we could have these here.

00:58:10.000 And so I said, let's fill out the thing.

00:58:11.000 Next thing I know, the media is like Tim Poole and the right-wing puppets showing up at the Pentagon to steal our spaces.

00:58:16.000 As if they were like, you know, falling over themselves to get access to these seats before, you know, alternative media got the opportunity.

00:58:24.000 Like they thought that those seats were theirs.

00:58:27.000 I remember when the White House correspondents or the press room in the White House, you know, a lot got in there and other people from alternative media got in there.

00:58:38.000 And they were behaving as if something that they owned had been taken from them.

00:58:44.000 And it was an affront to journalism, you know, in its entirety that someone that they disapproved of was there asking questions of the White House.

00:58:54.000 And it's that, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:58:57.000 It's elitist.

00:58:58.000 They believe.

00:58:59.000 Elitist.

00:59:00.000 Yeah, definitely elitist.

00:59:02.000 But, you know, they believed that the access to the president or to the White House was theirs and it wasn't for anyone else.

00:59:10.000 It wasn't something that any other journalists should have access to.

00:59:15.000 Well, they had been allowed to operate that way for decades.

00:59:17.000 Yeah.

00:59:18.000 I mean, I was shocked when I first learned who got to decide who was in the White House because I'd always assumed it must be the White House.

00:59:25.000 Nope.

00:59:27.000 It was this incredibly far-left organization that essentially had the authority to decide who made it and who did it.

00:59:32.000 And when Trump came in and said, yeah, we're not going to give a far-left organization the ability to gatekeep access to the White House, they just infuriate.

00:59:41.000 This is because they are journalism.

00:59:41.000 How dare you?

00:59:43.000 Well, ultimately, it's these people feel entitled to it, to put it a little bit more succinctly.

00:59:49.000 But to be clear, they have reason to be upset because I don't sympathize with them.

00:59:55.000 The reason that they get upset is because it's zero sum.

00:59:58.000 Access is zero sum there.

00:59:59.000 Caroline Levitt or Press Secretary Kingsley at the Department of War, they're only going to give so many questions.

01:00:05.000 Pete Hegseth is only going to give Department of War, Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth.

01:00:10.000 I want to practice putting in the titles while I say all these guys' names.

01:00:13.000 Pete Franklin overwhelmed the Costco.

01:00:18.000 Wow.

01:00:19.000 Oh, my mustaches, though.

01:00:21.000 It's funny because a lot is giving some poignant, astute speech.

01:00:27.000 Analysis.

01:00:27.000 And Nick and I are just busting out laughing as I pull this meme.

01:00:31.000 It says, Franklin is overwhelmed at Costco.

01:00:35.000 And it's just Franklin looking scared, surrounded by a bunch of Indian people. 1.00

01:00:40.000 Poor Franklin.

01:00:41.000 But there's, if you look in the this one, probably leads into the one that's in there now that I just posted in there.

01:00:47.000 You just sent one to me.

01:00:49.000 Is it going to get us in trouble?

01:00:53.000 See, this is what first happens, and then that's what you get.

01:00:58.000 See, he gets radicalized by going to Costco.

01:01:02.000 Look at the monkey in the fox.

01:01:03.000 They're filming it on that cell.

01:01:05.000 So for those that are just listening, it says Franklin gets a new job.

01:01:08.000 And he's a masked DSA agent arresting What's Her Face?

01:01:12.000 Dora the Explorer the Explorer.

01:01:18.000 I drew a map back home.

01:01:24.000 Imagine all the things they're going to find in her backpack.

01:01:27.000 Not immigration papers.

01:01:30.000 Do you guys remember when Marvel tried making it was called the New Mutants?

01:01:34.000 And they had Safe Space and Snowflake.

01:01:34.000 Yeah.

01:01:36.000 Oh, my God.

01:01:37.000 And there was a fat female Hispanic character who had a backpack and her superpowers that she could pull any item out of it. 1.00

01:01:43.000 And it's just like, that's just Dora.

01:01:45.000 Well, yeah, it's Dora.

01:01:46.000 But it's also the bag was a ripoff of the bag of holding from DD.

01:01:50.000 That's right.

01:01:50.000 She's just a DD character arc.

01:01:53.000 That's right.

01:01:54.000 Trying to learn how to speak Spanish, I guess.

01:01:55.000 Nothing's new.

01:01:57.000 Why does a monkey have a cell phone?

01:01:59.000 The fox, I get.

01:02:00.000 He'll speak.

01:02:01.000 He swiped it.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, the fox stole the swiper.

01:02:03.000 He swipe it.

01:02:05.000 He swiped it from Dora.

01:02:06.000 I'll swipe whatever I want now, Dora.

01:02:09.000 Somebody put in a call.

01:02:11.000 That was actually the, yeah, the monkey called.

01:02:13.000 The fox is definitely the way it is.

01:02:14.000 That's why they're definitely called it.

01:02:16.000 Franklin's the new Pepe.

01:02:18.000 Yeah.

01:02:18.000 This is amazing.

01:02:20.000 Franklin.

01:02:21.000 I love that grows tired.

01:02:23.000 What is it?

01:02:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:25.000 Franklin learns about George Floyd's autopsy.

01:02:30.000 Oh, man.

01:02:31.000 Oh, Franklin.

01:02:32.000 Look how upset he looks.

01:02:33.000 Oh, no.

01:02:34.000 Did you riot for no reason, Franklin?

01:02:36.000 Maybe you should not have done that.

01:02:38.000 Oh, man.

01:02:39.000 Shucks.

01:02:40.000 All right.

01:02:41.000 Let's talk about news, I guess.

01:02:43.000 No more laughing.

01:02:44.000 We got this from the Postmillennial.

01:02:47.000 Pentagon says all options are on the table for the investigation into Mark Kelly over seditious six video.

01:02:55.000 Now, here's what really matters.

01:02:56.000 From the Postman, Pentagon says WAPO falsely attributed quotes to Hegseth that he never said in a report on September drug boat strike.

01:03:03.000 This is actually a report in the New York Times.

01:03:05.000 I want to pull up the New York Times for all the libs out there. 1.00

01:03:09.000 This was crazy to watch the New York Times fact check the Washington.

01:03:12.000 It was lib-on-lib violence.

01:03:13.000 Yeah.

01:03:14.000 So the New York Times basically Have countered what the Washington Post reported saying, Hagseth ordered a lethal attack, but not the killing of survivors, officials say.

01:03:24.000 The reason why this is important is that the Washington Post put out the claim that Hag Seth basically said double tap. 0.99

01:03:29.000 That he said, kill the narco-terrorists, blow them up. 0.95

01:03:34.000 After he did, they claimed that they were staring at survivors clinging to boats, and he said, Finish them off, which would be a war crime, survivors. 1.00

01:03:40.000 You capture him, right?

01:03:42.000 Well, the New York Times was like, We talked to five different people independently of each other, and they all confirmed Hagseth gave one order, struck the boats, and then left.

01:03:50.000 Why then did the Washington Post lie?

01:03:54.000 They are fomenting civil war.

01:03:56.000 I am not saying that lightly.

01:03:58.000 And all of the people chuckling and saying, ha ha, time to drink, stop.

01:04:01.000 You're allowed to have fun, but I want to make this point because it is very terrifying.

01:04:06.000 I have explained throughout the whole year, they have been saying that all of Trump's orders are illegal.

01:04:12.000 They have terrified men and women in uniform.

01:04:15.000 They have said when they take power back, they will arrest you for following Trump's orders.

01:04:20.000 The Washington Post now put out a story claiming that Hag Seth authorized a war crime.

01:04:24.000 They ordered the war crime. 0.95

01:04:26.000 They want you in the military to question whether or not you can actually follow these orders.

01:04:33.000 Mark Kelly then went on, meet the press, and said, They can tell when the orders are illegal.

01:04:40.000 You've got these billboards popping up all over the place saying, Not what you signed up for.

01:04:46.000 Communicate with us discreetly using encryption to avoid the risk.

01:04:50.000 Risk of what?

01:04:52.000 So when Mark Kelly is coming out and saying, Don't follow illegal orders, this is overt calls for civil war.

01:05:00.000 And I want to make sure this is very, I want to very much define and clarify this.

01:05:05.000 There is never going to be a circumstance in modern warfare where someone trying to ignite a military coup goes on TV and says, I am calling on the military to engage in a military coup against the president.

01:05:17.000 Now is the time.

01:05:18.000 Let's take the seat of the White House.

01:05:20.000 Because regular people will get freaked out by it.

01:05:22.000 If you wanted to actually stage a coup, this is how you would do it in modern warfare.

01:05:29.000 You would have your media allies come out and say, Trump is doing illegal things.

01:05:33.000 You would make up fake stories to terrify and shatter the confidence of our military.

01:05:39.000 And then you'd have politicians come out and say, you can tell if it's illegal and you must disobey.

01:05:45.000 That's where we're at.

01:05:47.000 I guarantee you, with those billboards that have been popping up since October, there are already men and women in uniform who have been in contact with these organizations and have already made vows to defy the chain of command.

01:05:59.000 So when people ask, How would a civil war ever happen in this country?

01:06:02.000 The military is not going to turn on itself.

01:06:04.000 It makes me want to just bash my face in the table because in 2018, when I first started talking about the prospect of civil war, the first question was, why would anyone at the federal government be fighting each other?

01:06:13.000 It's a uniparty.

01:06:14.000 They're all aligned with each.

01:06:15.000 Now we can see what's happening.

01:06:18.000 They prosecute Donald Trump.

01:06:19.000 In 2018, nobody believed Trump would be arrested.

01:06:22.000 It's never happened.

01:06:23.000 It could never happen.

01:06:24.000 And then Trump got arrested, what, twice?

01:06:26.000 Three times.

01:06:27.000 Then all of a sudden, it was like, oh, wow, that happened, but it won't go.

01:06:30.000 It won't escalate again.

01:06:31.000 So back in 2018, people would say to me, the federal government is never going to allow this kind of fighting because they're too powerful and they control everything.

01:06:39.000 Well, now the federal government is fighting itself.

01:06:41.000 And now we're seeing, and people said, yeah, well, they're fighting each other, but how would the military ever line up against the military?

01:06:46.000 That'll never happen.

01:06:47.000 Then we saw in Texas, the Texas Guard versus the feds over the border dispute.

01:06:51.000 And now we're seeing Chris Murphy say, pick an effing side.

01:06:56.000 And Trump's not getting free pass on this one when he said sedition is punishable by death.

01:07:00.000 Like, this is all lining things up.

01:07:03.000 I would not be surprised if we were a year away.

01:07:07.000 I'm not saying it will happen.

01:07:08.000 I don't know.

01:07:09.000 But if a year from now, we see Gavinism come out and say, I am seizing full control of the California National Guard, and I'm ordering all members of the Guard to defy federal court orders to obey Donald Trump.

01:07:20.000 He is engaged in unlawful actions.

01:07:22.000 You are hereby ordered to defy those actions.

01:07:24.000 I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.

01:07:25.000 He's already threatened to arrest DHS ICE for wearing masks.

01:07:29.000 We're already seeing criminal prosecution threats in Illinois and Oregon.

01:07:33.000 It is all happening before our eyes. 0.99

01:07:35.000 I think the only move Trump has right now, and I don't think he'll do it because with all due respect, they don't have the balls to do it. 0.99

01:07:42.000 I think they need to be arrested. 0.88

01:07:44.000 I think they need to be charged under 18 USC 2387.

01:07:47.000 I believe that Outfront and Lamar advertising should be fined for criminal violations of 18 USC 2387.

01:07:56.000 And I believe that they need to go out and actually make arrests under this.

01:08:02.000 Otherwise, it just gets worse.

01:08:04.000 Do you have the clip of how she actually responded?

01:08:07.000 Because I watched this full briefing and I thought she did it.

01:08:09.000 You mentioned working with partners on the Hill.

01:08:11.000 Another senator on the Hill, the Democrat side, is Senator Mark Kelly.

01:08:14.000 Now, we heard some reporting about a possible investigation into him regarding his status as a retired member of the United States Navy, still on pension, and therefore still under the jurisdiction of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

01:08:29.000 And as such, his membership, you mentioned the seditious six.

01:08:32.000 Would that be grounds for possibly bringing him back to active service for an investigation for NJP or even a full court martial?

01:08:39.000 So you're correct.

01:08:39.000 The Department of War received serious allegations of misconduct against Senator Mark Kelly.

01:08:44.000 And in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice and other applicable recommendations and regulations, we're doing a thorough review of all of these allegations.

01:08:53.000 And the Secretary of War has tasked the Secretary of the Navy, John Phelan, with doing a thorough review, looking into all of these allegations and providing him an update on December 10th.

01:09:04.000 So we will have more information to come on that.

01:09:07.000 But I would just add that this despicable video that Mark Kelly participated in with the seditious six was a politically motivated influence operation that was an attempt to undermine the chain of command to sow distrust and division in our armed forces.

01:09:24.000 That is absolutely ridiculous, and it puts our warfighters at risk.

01:09:29.000 And again, he doubled down on the Sunday shows. 0.56

01:09:32.000 I don't know if you all saw him on the Sunday shows, but he basically insinuated that service members who do not defy President Trump's orders could face potential prosecution in the future when Democrats are back in power.

01:09:46.000 He even called our troops and likened them to those of the Russian military.

01:09:51.000 This is totally disgraceful from an elected official.

01:09:54.000 And the department takes it very seriously, and that is why we have launched this review.

01:09:58.000 And just to be clear, so if Secretary Phelan were to recommend court martial, that would be on the board.

01:10:04.000 What was the question?

01:10:05.000 If Secretary Phelan were to recommend court martial, that could be an option on the table.

01:10:05.000 Sorry.

01:10:10.000 All options are on the table at this moment in time.

01:10:12.000 And we look forward to getting the Secretary of the Navy's review.

01:10:16.000 And the Secretary of War has been very clear in his statements as well Well, that he takes this extremely seriously and it is unacceptable.

01:10:23.000 I want to pull up the law for all the yells so you can see.

01:10:26.000 I'm not playing around.

01:10:27.000 This is illegal.

01:10:27.000 This is 18 USC 2387.

01:10:30.000 It's, well, let me pull up the penalty for it.

01:10:32.000 Does it have the penalty in here?

01:10:33.000 It doesn't.

01:10:34.000 Oh, it doesn't.

01:10:35.000 I'm sorry, 10 years.

01:10:37.000 And let's see, or fined or imprisoned not more than 10 years.

01:10:41.000 Whoever with the intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty morale or discipline of the military or naval force of the United States, one, advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military naval force of the United States, or distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military naval force of the United States,

01:11:07.000 shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department of agency thereof or agency thereof for the next five years following his conviction.

01:11:18.000 So this is illegal.

01:11:20.000 And I'm pretty sure when you have a website that instructs you to reduce risk by using encrypted communications because you're questioning what you signed up for, this falls perfectly under 18 USC 2387, Section A, subsection 2, and 1 falls perfectly, and Mark Kelly's actions fall under one, Section A, subsection 1, perfectly.

01:11:45.000 They need to be criminally charged.

01:11:47.000 If they are not, this will keep getting worse.

01:11:49.000 If you do not use your power, you lose it.

01:11:52.000 And if the DOJ is unwilling to bring an indictment, this is a slam dunk, by the way.

01:11:57.000 If they're unwilling to do it, Democrats are going to keep, they're going to entrench this worldview.

01:12:02.000 They're going to expand their efforts.

01:12:04.000 And by then, it will be too late because the military will be scared.

01:12:07.000 There's going to be some young guys in the military.

01:12:10.000 And they heard Mark Kelly say, if Democrats win, they're going to prison.

01:12:14.000 So they're going to say, Trump, you have to win because I don't want to go to prison.

01:12:19.000 And Trump's going to go, I can't do anything about it.

01:12:21.000 And they're going to say, then I'm with them.

01:12:23.000 Because if you will not use power, we know they will.

01:12:26.000 So if Trump doesn't do it, the military is going to immediately defect and go to the people willing to crush them.

01:12:31.000 That's why in Venezuela, you are able to suppress the people who are fighting against communism.

01:12:36.000 Because the military is told, we'll kill you if you defy us, but we'll feed you if you work with us.

01:12:42.000 And so people are like, okay, it's better to be a soldier well-fed and fat and happy in Venezuela than one of these impoverished poor people suffering under socialism.

01:12:51.000 The military's got two choices.

01:12:53.000 Are they going to follow the chain of command as they signed up to, or are they going to follow the defectors under the Democrats?

01:13:00.000 Well, the reality is, if Trump isn't going to do anything, they're going to say, look, they got a gun to my head and you won't stop them.

01:13:10.000 Yeah.

01:13:10.000 I mean, look, I do still, I'm still of the opinion that the government is being very precautious about any kind of any kind of legal action they take.

01:13:25.000 But I do think that this is pretty clear.

01:13:27.000 And I would like to see, you know, see something come from the investigation.

01:13:33.000 I think, so I'm always, again, my background was unconventional warfare, counterinsurgency.

01:13:38.000 That's what we did as Green Berets.

01:13:42.000 I'm always cautious of the idea of the whole Alinsky rule that their action is our reaction.

01:13:49.000 And there is something to be said for perp walking somebody out who's then going to claim that I was just, I was simply repeating what the law is.

01:13:55.000 You're obligated to not follow unlawful orders.

01:13:58.000 Show me exactly where I violated this by telling service members that they don't have to follow lawful orders.

01:14:05.000 Is that not true?

01:14:06.000 Is that not in the Uniform Code of Military Justice?

01:14:09.000 That's going to be their claim.

01:14:10.000 Right.

01:14:11.000 And so the question is, what do you have that truly is the slam duck?

01:14:16.000 I understand the implication.

01:14:18.000 And the thing, the thing, again, there's two things about this that really piss me off.

01:14:23.000 The first one is that I am so sick and tired of watching these former members of the military sit there and hold up their prior service and the oath we swore to the Constitution.

01:14:37.000 Well, will that include the First Amendment, Second Amendment, Ninth Amendment, 10th Amendment, Article 1, Section 8?

01:14:41.000 Because I've noticed you don't seem to care about those things.

01:14:44.000 My wife said it best.

01:14:45.000 She goes, Democrats quote the Constitution the way atheists quote the Bible. 0.79

01:14:48.000 Yep.

01:14:49.000 Right?

01:14:50.000 There's no real commitment to it.

01:14:51.000 It's the restriction on you, not them.

01:14:54.000 Where were anything?

01:14:55.000 I mean, they're all saying now, we need you guys in the military.

01:14:58.000 You know what?

01:14:58.000 We need you.

01:14:59.000 I remember when the guys in the military needed these guys when they were getting kicked out of the military by Eugene Vinman because they didn't want to take an experimental vaccine.

01:15:07.000 Or the people who got kicked out because they had Gadsden flags on their Facebook profile.

01:15:10.000 Yes.

01:15:10.000 Or a member of the Virginia National Guard that I'm trying to help right now that not only got kicked out, but barred from re-enlistment, demoted.

01:15:18.000 Why?

01:15:18.000 Because, well, he belonged to a local militia.

01:15:21.000 The local militia was actually sanctioned by their local sheriff's department and actually helped them engage in things like first responder activities.

01:15:30.000 Right.

01:15:31.000 And they knew about it for four years, sent this guy to soldier of the year to represent the Virginia National Guard.

01:15:38.000 And now they kicked him out.

01:15:39.000 That's super frustrating that you say that because there's a lot of people will do things.

01:15:44.000 They'll sign up to help their local fire departments.

01:15:47.000 They'll sign up to help their local sheriff's departments.

01:15:49.000 They're like, I'm a volunteer.

01:15:50.000 And the government absolutely will look at people and say, well, I don't like his politics.

01:15:55.000 He's in this organization.

01:15:56.000 He's in this group.

01:15:57.000 And he's, you know, whatever.

01:15:59.000 He's pro-2A or whatever.

01:16:00.000 So we're going to say that he's a member of some kind of militia or something.

01:16:03.000 And they'll target it to one individual.

01:16:05.000 They won't go after the whole group.

01:16:06.000 No.

01:16:07.000 And so there's that, right?

01:16:08.000 That aspect of it, where it's these guys are holding up their former service as justification for what they're doing now.

01:16:13.000 When we all, none of us are convinced that these guys actually care about the Constitution.

01:16:18.000 The other thing that pisses me off is exactly what you said before.

01:16:21.000 It's this idea of you can't follow unlawful orders.

01:16:25.000 Correct.

01:16:26.000 So, Mark, Senator Kelly, show me which order is unlawful.

01:16:31.000 Oh, you don't have one.

01:16:32.000 Oh, it's just a friendly reminder.

01:16:34.000 No, no, no.

01:16:34.000 What you did was you threatened them.

01:16:36.000 Yep.

01:16:37.000 Because it's the whole idea of how do you know it's an unlawful order?

01:16:39.000 Well, it's pretty easy when you look at the Uniform Code of Military Justice in order to decipher between a lawful order and an unlawful order.

01:16:45.000 Okay.

01:16:46.000 But the fact that he said we'll go after the people that follow, this is the part where it gets into a much grayer area.

01:16:53.000 Because when you have service members that now have to execute on orders fighting terrorism or something like that, now it's the whole idea of, am I going to, is there going to be a future regime, a future Congress, a future president, a future attorney general that's going to come in and now determine three years after the fact, oh, you know, that order that you executed, which by the way, JAG cleared off on at the time that you did it.

01:17:19.000 Because especially when you're talking about this, I've explained this before.

01:17:21.000 I've seen this.

01:17:23.000 This is not the sort of thing where random guys are just going out there deciding who they want to drone for fun. 0.89

01:17:27.000 It's not some random captain saying, oh, yeah, let's go kill that guy.

01:17:30.000 That's not how this works. 0.69

01:17:31.000 Okay.

01:17:31.000 Yeah.

01:17:32.000 What you actually have when you have a common operating picture and you have a talk, you have a tactical control area, and you are actually blessing off on this stuff where it's like, okay, in S2, S3, right?

01:17:43.000 JAG.

01:17:45.000 Like, yep, good to go.

01:17:46.000 Good to go.

01:17:47.000 Okay, now I execute it.

01:17:48.000 Now Mark Kelly comes in and decides after the fact that was an unlawful order and we're punishing you as well.

01:17:55.000 And your enlisted guys are listening to, you know, you mentioned JAG.

01:17:58.000 Those guys are officers.

01:17:59.000 They're lawyers.

01:18:00.000 They've gone to law school and they clear it.

01:18:02.000 And so these enlisted dudes, these E4s, E5s, E6s, they do what they're told.

01:18:08.000 And then Mark Kelly's coming and threatening them and essentially saying, look, we're going to hold you responsible if you violate the law, if you violate your oath to the Constitution.

01:18:18.000 And it's as murky and as ambiguous.

01:18:21.000 He makes it as murky and as ambiguous as possible.

01:18:24.000 Even though these guys got the okay, the thumbs up from, like you said, the military lawyers that have gone over this from tip to butt.

01:18:34.000 They're like, yep, this is all good.

01:18:36.000 You're 100% right.

01:18:37.000 It's infuriating to see.

01:18:38.000 I agree with everything you guys just said, but I feel as though we're speaking a little bit too much in the abstract.

01:18:42.000 So I wanted to add details to what we're actually talking about here.

01:18:46.000 So originally, the Washington Post put out an article saying that Pete Hegseth ordered a strike on an alleged Venezuelan drug boat.

01:18:55.000 He said, allegedly said, kill them all, and then allegedly ordered the follow-up strike.

01:18:59.000 I believe that's what it says in the Washington Post article.

01:19:01.000 The New York Times came out with a new article that says Pete Hegseth only was involved in the initial strike, as I understand, and didn't allegedly give them one order.

01:19:08.000 He ordered a lethal strike, but not killing of the survivors.

01:19:11.000 And then Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War Hegseth, alleges that it's Admiral Bradley who eventually sent the follow-up kinetic strike.

01:19:19.000 And now, Senator Mark Kelly is saying that that could potentially, if it truly happened the way that the Washington Post is alleging, that that could be a war crime.

01:19:28.000 So I guess Mark Kelly is also saying that, therefore, if that is the case, then, and you are following the chain of command, you will still be held liable if these are unlawful orders.

01:19:37.000 I guess on that part particularly, what do you think about, based on the reporting that we've seen, if that's, you know, could that, would you interpret that as a war crime?

01:19:45.000 The point of this is not to actually claim there's a war crime.

01:19:49.000 It's to tell an enlisted guy who doesn't know left or right on the legal matters, we are coming for you.

01:19:55.000 If Trump tells you to do something and you do it, we are coming for you.

01:19:58.000 And it harms our military readiness because now all of our soldiers need to think twice.

01:19:58.000 Totally.

01:20:01.000 This is the decisions you're making potentially going to compromise you in the future.

01:20:05.000 But I think there are two issues at hand there.

01:20:08.000 There's that issue, and then there's also the issue of potentially striking people who have no means to kick back in.

01:20:15.000 To your first point, and Nick, you can speak to this.

01:20:17.000 You hear guys on the ground talking about how the rules of engagement have been detrimental to actually accomplishing the mission.

01:20:25.000 Can you go ahead and expand on that idea so people can't do that?

01:20:27.000 So to give you an idea, I'll just use Iraq as an example in 2008.

01:20:31.000 The amount of trouble we had to go through to get outside the wire and actually conduct military operations, it was far more intense than anybody would think.

01:20:39.000 It looked more like law enforcement operations than you would think, like an active combat area.

01:20:43.000 So this is something where I had to secure warrants.

01:20:46.000 I remember going out, we launched an operation to get a guy for which we had, I think, 10 different sworn statements from Iraqis.

01:20:53.000 Yeah, this guy's a terrorist.

01:20:54.000 Yeah, this guy's done bad things. 0.55

01:20:55.000 And I go back and like me, I'm a sergeant first class.

01:20:58.000 I'm a Green Beret, but I'm a sergeant first class.

01:21:00.000 And all of a sudden, I got to sit and I got to justify to a JAG officer on why this person needs to go to higher detention.

01:21:06.000 So yeah, there was a lot of us that got to the point where it's like, this is getting ridiculous.

01:21:09.000 And then remember, this is also the time during the Obama administration where they were talking about they wanted to have an award for valorous restraint.

01:21:16.000 Yeah.

01:21:17.000 And again, it's about the incentive structure that you're competing that you are creating in the minds of military personnel.

01:21:24.000 Now, listen, obviously, if you have, if I've got somebody detained right there in front of me, I have launched my operation.

01:21:32.000 I've got my bad guy.

01:21:33.000 They are zip tied.

01:21:34.000 And they're sitting over there. 1.00

01:21:35.000 And my commander walks in and goes, Freitas, shoot that guy in the head. 0.98

01:21:38.000 I'm going to look at my commander and be like, no, like, I know that's not authorized. 0.99

01:21:42.000 That's murder.

01:21:43.000 I can't do that.

01:21:44.000 Okay, but there's also questions on whether it comes down to repetitive strikes and things like that.

01:21:49.000 Can I hit a target more than once?

01:21:51.000 We do have big breaking news.

01:21:52.000 Sorry, guys.

01:21:54.000 Afton Bain, the woman from Tennessee from Nashville, who hates Nashville, has lost.

01:22:00.000 Oh, so apparently it looks like I don't know if Decision Desk is projecting Matt Van Epps to win.

01:22:10.000 So we've got this.

01:22:12.000 He has made, he has won.

01:22:14.000 And they posted this at 9.06.

01:22:16.000 Actually, we're 10 minutes behind.

01:22:18.000 But we have this in the New York Times tracking the latest.

01:22:18.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 And he's quite a bit ahead.

01:22:23.000 Perhaps going on podcasts and claiming that you hate everything about Nashville is not the way to actually win a congressional seat.

01:22:31.000 I will also mention in this, he looks like he's up six points.

01:22:33.000 This was a Trump plus 20 district, so I don't know how impressive this margin was.

01:22:37.000 It seems as though Republicans were a little bit concerned about this seat despite that.

01:22:41.000 Seventh district?

01:22:41.000 Trump was tweeting about it.

01:22:43.000 Urban Nashville was plus 20.

01:22:44.000 This district prior to this?

01:22:46.000 Yeah, in the prior Trump election was a Trump plus 20.

01:22:49.000 Nick, I wanted to follow up with you on one of the details here in particular.

01:22:53.000 As I understand on ground, it's different than what it's going on at sea.

01:22:56.000 Correct me at any moment because I'm sure you know a lot more about this than I do.

01:22:59.000 But on land, people, survivors could potentially be seen as a continuing military threat.

01:23:04.000 But however, when you are at sea after you strike a boat and there's survivors just hanging on to whatever's left over of the boat, it's different and they don't seem to pose a clear military threat.

01:23:13.000 That's when an alleged second strike was ordered and people are alleging that if that's the way it happened, then it would be a war crime.

01:23:19.000 Do you think that would be a war crime if it happened the way that the Washington Post is alleging?

01:23:24.000 That's one that I don't have a legal expertise with respect to that to be able to definitively say one way or the other.

01:23:31.000 I can't say that typically speaking, it's generally understood that if you have survivors of like a sunken ship or something like that, to strike that again would that would seem outside the rules to me, but I don't have a legal expertise because I did want to, again, get to the specifics because that's, I believe, again, I do not believe Senator Mark Kelly is justified in telling soldiers that they shouldn't follow what they believe may be illegitimate orders because the next administration might come after them.

01:23:59.000 But that's what he's talking about here with these orders.

01:24:02.000 Look, with all of this, we just got done talking about this earlier with Candace with respect to how words are chosen carefully in order to avoid prosecution or avoid defamation or anything like that.

01:24:11.000 It's going to be the same thing here, right?

01:24:13.000 And that's going to be the question: can you make a strong enough legal case where you could actually convict something for that?

01:24:18.000 Franklin can.

01:24:21.000 Franklin's capable.

01:24:22.000 You can pull us one.

01:24:23.000 You pull us one up.

01:24:23.000 Well, and that's also, but look, we've also got midterms coming up, right?

01:24:28.000 So the question is, is, are they talking about this exclusively?

01:24:33.000 Let me give you an example.

01:24:34.000 We've just got our clocks cleaned in Virginia.

01:24:36.000 We're going to be paying for what just happened in the Virginia election.

01:24:39.000 Oh, bro.

01:24:40.000 For the next 20 years.

01:24:41.000 I'm not coming back to your state.

01:24:42.000 For the next 20 years, we're going to be paying for what happened on election night in November.

01:24:48.000 Okay.

01:24:48.000 Does anyone here think that the Democrats really just wanted to keep the government shut down because they were just so upset about some of these budget items?

01:24:58.000 Or do you think it's far more likely that they realized that they were impacting tens of thousands of voters in Northern Virginia right ahead of election?

01:25:05.000 Right.

01:25:06.000 Right.

01:25:07.000 So it's this idea that there are times, this is Sololinsky's rules for radicals.

01:25:12.000 You know, our reaction is their action, right?

01:25:14.000 They want to get us to respond in a particular way.

01:25:16.000 And so I do think the Trump administration has to be very, very careful on how they go about this.

01:25:20.000 I do think they should rigorly investigate it.

01:25:23.000 And I do think they should be willing to use legitimate power.

01:25:26.000 This is one of the things that's been a huge problem for conservatives.

01:25:29.000 Yes, we are skeptical of the centralization of power and the use of power.

01:25:35.000 We don't see government as a mechanism whereby we reward our friends and punish our enemies.

01:25:40.000 But you know who does?

01:25:41.000 The left.

01:25:42.000 Every single time.

01:25:43.000 That is how they use it.

01:25:44.000 And to your point, when you do, when you are handed by the electorate legitimate government power, I don't think that means that you should abuse that power, but should you exercise it to its full legitimate force?

01:25:58.000 Yes.

01:25:59.000 You had better.

01:26:00.000 You had better.

01:26:00.000 Yeah, you have an obligation.

01:26:01.000 That's why you won the election because they want you to exercise.

01:26:05.000 And now let's apply that in the reverse.

01:26:10.000 I'm not going to be coming to your state for some time.

01:26:12.000 You got Jay Jones coming in.

01:26:13.000 When does he formally come in?

01:26:15.000 It'll be January.

01:26:16.000 In January, it's probably the last time I drive through Virginia because we are currently living in a country where Charlie Kirk was murdered.

01:26:24.000 And no matter who you think did it, whatever, I'm not here to get into that whole argument.

01:26:28.000 The point is somebody wanted him dead and they made sure he was.

01:26:33.000 You have Jay Jones now, a man who wants his opponent's children to die so that they will agree with him on policy.

01:26:42.000 That doesn't just mean, hey, you know, if your children were brutally murdered, maybe you'll change your mind.

01:26:46.000 It means there are things I am willing to do that I understand must be done to make someone change their mind.

01:26:52.000 And so I'm not going back to Chicago for the holidays because, and you can look this up, you can ask Luke about it.

01:26:59.000 Police in Chicago tried planting drugs on us back in, I think it was 2012.

01:27:03.000 And NBC News reported how we got pulled over at gunpoint.

01:27:06.000 And it's a crazy story.

01:27:08.000 And call me paranoid, but all it takes is one day I drive through Virginia and some state trooper who's some crackpot far-left guy who's a fan of Jay Jones and believes all the crazy Nazi stuff plants drugs.

01:27:21.000 That's it. 0.96

01:27:22.000 Or just turns his body camera off and then puts a bullet in me. 1.00

01:27:25.000 That I doubt.

01:27:26.000 It's much easier just to be like, he resisted arrest and now he's going to jail.

01:27:30.000 If you want to take a piece off the board, there are many ways you can do it.

01:27:35.000 And we are living in a country right now where someone was willing to murder Charlie Kirk because of his influence.

01:27:42.000 When an AG comes in who expresses his desire to see children murdered for his political benefit, I am taking that very seriously. 0.97

01:27:49.000 I think I've said this before where originally, I mean, I was used to the General Assembly when I got in there in 2016, and it was if you disagreed with the Democrats, you were a racist, you were a bigot, you were a sexist.

01:27:59.000 And the use of that language was designed to rob you of moral legitimacy with respect to the arguments that you made.

01:28:06.000 It was, I don't need to listen to your arguments because who cares about the opinions of a racist, a sexist, or a bigot.

01:28:12.000 Then the language changed and the language became, you're a threat to democracy. 1.00

01:28:16.000 You're a fascist. 0.98

01:28:17.000 You're engaging in transgenocide. 0.99

01:28:19.000 That's not to rob you of moral legitimacy.

01:28:21.000 That is to create a moral framework for where they can use aggressive violence against you and claim it with self-defense.

01:28:28.000 Now we're moving into what Mark Kelly's doing right now, where it's, we will come after, we're promising to prosecute you if you follow the orders of a president we don't like.

01:28:37.000 We will use the full force and power of government.

01:28:40.000 Yeah, the thing that's going about to be going on in Virginia right now is the place is going to be run like the mob, right?

01:28:46.000 Don Scott and Louise Lucas are talking to all the lobbyists right now, essentially saying you better tell everybody that ever donated to a Republican, they better get on board.

01:28:54.000 They're going to tell everybody who wants legislation before the General Assembly, you hire a Yunkin appointee, you're done. 1.00

01:29:02.000 Right.

01:29:02.000 And then it's a question of you've got a guy like Jay Jones running the Attorney General's office.

01:29:06.000 Guys, they don't have to actually convict you.

01:29:08.000 They can destroy your life with an investigation.

01:29:11.000 Yep.

01:29:12.000 They can bankrupt you having to fight.

01:29:15.000 They will use your tax dollars to crush you into the ground or to withdraw the investigation after the damage is done.

01:29:22.000 They can launch an indictment against a company based in Nashville and accuse several prominent conservatives of being paid by Russians and then abandon the investigation a month later when the election's over.

01:29:31.000 And that's literally what Merrick Garland did because he is evil.

01:29:36.000 And it's funny because I always bring up my buddy in the poker room who's like, you're always calling Democrats evil.

01:29:41.000 And I was like, well, maybe when the AG lies about you intentionally misrepresenting everything with no evidence and then you get death threats because of it, you might understand.

01:29:51.000 But to the people who don't really pay attention and they're just passively absorbing news, they don't get it.

01:29:56.000 And I've had to explain to people, I said, listen, for you to truly understand where we are, we have to go back in time 10 years.

01:30:03.000 And there's so much information you have wrong.

01:30:06.000 So I was talking to this guy and I said, Donald Trump never called neo-Nazi.

01:30:09.000 He never called Nazis fine people.

01:30:11.000 And it's fascinating because not to single out any individual that I was just talking to, but I'll use an example from this show.

01:30:17.000 When we had, what was her name?

01:30:19.000 Is it Tara Palmieri?

01:30:21.000 Was that her name?

01:30:22.000 She didn't know.

01:30:23.000 And this was this year.

01:30:24.000 She didn't know Trump never called Nazis fine people.

01:30:27.000 Yeah.

01:30:28.000 She genuinely still believed that lie.

01:30:30.000 Not only.

01:30:31.000 And that's the world they live in.

01:30:32.000 Yeah.

01:30:32.000 Not only that, but I have friends that have said things like, oh, well, you know, maybe he didn't actually call Nazis fine people, but he was there that day with them.

01:30:46.000 He was there talking.

01:30:47.000 So he was at the neo-Nazi rally.

01:30:51.000 Even though, according to like Trump, I don't think he was actually at the rally.

01:30:55.000 He was doing a press conference.

01:30:57.000 He wasn't anywhere near.

01:30:59.000 Yeah, was he in?

01:30:59.000 He wasn't even near it.

01:31:00.000 Was he in New York?

01:31:01.000 I don't know, but he wasn't anywhere near Charlottesville.

01:31:03.000 Yeah.

01:31:04.000 So he didn't go there.

01:31:05.000 People are under the impression that he was there at the rally with him.

01:31:09.000 And the truth doesn't matter.

01:31:11.000 Well, you saw what the BBC did.

01:31:13.000 I mean, the BBC deliberately edited speeches in order to make it look like he had called for people to go over to the Capitol on January 6th.

01:31:24.000 Who was it?

01:31:25.000 Matt Van Swole?

01:31:27.000 He just came out and said, I just, I think it was either today or yesterday.

01:31:31.000 He said, I just learned for the first time that the whole hands-up, no shoot, or don't shoot is a complete fraud.

01:31:37.000 Just today.

01:31:38.000 Oh, yeah, just today.

01:31:39.000 He's like, I had no idea that this guy didn't put his hands up, didn't say don't shoot, didn't do any of it.

01:31:48.000 He literally charged a police officer, tried to take his firearm away from him.

01:31:52.000 In the car, followed him in the car.

01:31:54.000 Yes.

01:31:55.000 To get the firearm.

01:31:56.000 And there was a bullet.

01:31:57.000 The gun went off.

01:31:58.000 There was a bullet hole in the squad car's passenger door.

01:32:01.000 Yeah.

01:32:02.000 We all knew that part of the story within what, probably 72 hours.

01:32:06.000 Yeah.

01:32:07.000 Probably within 72 hours.

01:32:08.000 There's people now years later going, wait, wait, what?

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 Or George Floyd having a lethal dose of fentanyl and meth in his system.

01:32:17.000 Yeah.

01:32:17.000 People go, huh?

01:32:19.000 Yeah.

01:32:20.000 And they vote.

01:32:21.000 And they're voting for Afton Bain.

01:32:23.000 And the fact that these things are untrue and it was the foundation for a movement that, I mean, what, seven, eight years later, nine years later, eight years later, because I think, no, seven years later, because Ferguson was in 2013, seven years later, literally burned down multiple cities across the country.

01:32:44.000 Just massive amounts of rioting, which, by the way, were not demonstrations of left-wing ideological political violence.

01:32:49.000 No, not at all.

01:32:50.000 Not demonstrations of that.

01:32:52.000 That led to all of those hate trackers, the killing in Portland, the riots don't count as left-wing violence.

01:32:58.000 No, of course not.

01:32:59.000 No, but if a skinhead gang gets in a fight with a Hispanic gang over drug turf, that's right-wing ideology.

01:33:07.000 The skinhead gang gets in a fight with another skinhead gang.

01:33:10.000 That's right-wing violence. 0.99

01:33:11.000 Guys kill other white gangs. 1.00

01:33:12.000 It's white supremacists. 1.00

01:33:13.000 If a white supremacist punches his wife, it's right-wing violence. 0.99

01:33:15.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:33:16.000 And here's the problem: the problem is conservatives take the bait every time.

01:33:20.000 Yeah.

01:33:20.000 Take the bait.

01:33:22.000 I think less so.

01:33:23.000 I think less so now.

01:33:25.000 I may be, but still prominent where I hear the debate all the time where someone will say something like, the right commits way more violence.

01:33:33.000 And the conservatives respond with, oh, yeah, but the left does this.

01:33:37.000 Instead of saying, brother, I'm not going to sit here and defend white supremacists punching anybody.

01:33:42.000 Don't, we are not part of the same group.

01:33:44.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 So if you want to make an argument about white supremacists, fine.

01:33:47.000 If you want to make an argument about conservatives or Republicans, whatever you want to make, fine. 0.98

01:33:51.000 When they say the right is responsible for X, what they're actually trying to do is saying the run-of-the-mill working class Republican is the exact same thing as a skinhead neo-Nazi guy chasing down black men. 0.82

01:34:02.000 And then Republicans go, well, but the left does this or that. 0.85

01:34:05.000 My response is, oh, yeah, if you mean right isn't like the white supremacists, fine, but let's separate them and we'll all agree to condemn them.

01:34:13.000 Okay, of regular Republicans, oh, now it's zero.

01:34:16.000 Oh, among regular liberals, it's 27,000.

01:34:16.000 Yeah.

01:34:19.000 Well, it's this, this, I was speaking at a University of Alabama on this, and I would say, look, the bottom line is, one, you're associating to typical conservatives, stuff that's done by like extremists.

01:34:19.000 Yeah.

01:34:32.000 And then you're completely negating stuff done by Antifa, right?

01:34:36.000 There's an intellectual dishonesty here that has reached a critical mass.

01:34:40.000 And this, again, I think this all goes back to Gramsci with this whole idea of you take over culturally shaping institutions and then you use their credibility, their stored up credibility in order to push your agenda.

01:34:53.000 The problem now is that when you use those kind of statistics to try to push this narrative that, oh, well, 80% of political violence is on the right.

01:35:02.000 I'm looking at them now going, you understand that that doesn't cause me to go, oh my gosh, is that true?

01:35:07.000 I know it's not true.

01:35:09.000 Whoa, yeah, but this study said it, or is it all that does, okay, all you have done is reinforced my belief that that institution, the people conducting those studies, the organizations that put it out there, are co-opted.

01:35:23.000 They're absolutely co-opted.

01:35:24.000 Because I can go over here and I can look at a poll that was conducted where they asked self-identifying liberals, moderates, and conservatives, how comfortable are you with political violence?

01:35:36.000 And it turns out that it's overwhelmingly the left, which, oh, by the way, is what I observe on a daily basis.

01:35:45.000 So it's like, I don't, again, you can't continue to wear these culturally shaping institutions as a kind of like skin suit and demand that I give them the same credibility that they earned decades ago when they actually engaged in either objective journalist or objective analysis.

01:36:01.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 Indeed, my friends, we're going to go to your chats in Rumble Rants.

01:36:05.000 So smash the like button.

01:36:07.000 Share the show if you really do like it.

01:36:09.000 Join us at TimCast.com.

01:36:11.000 The Discord server is awaiting.

01:36:13.000 And community, my friends, is our strength.

01:36:16.000 I did a couple, I did this video this morning talking about the radicalization of Gen Z, and it's because of community issues.

01:36:21.000 People don't have neighbors anymore.

01:36:22.000 Well, if you go to Timcast.com, you click join us and you get in our Discord membership.

01:36:27.000 You will find a massive community of people, some who've even gotten married.

01:36:32.000 But there's early shows, there's episodes.

01:36:34.000 Yeah, I think we've had like five couples they met.

01:36:34.000 It's true.

01:36:36.000 And listen, if you're a fan of the show, you probably have a similar understanding of the news and worldview.

01:36:42.000 It's probably not the only show you watch, but join the Discord.

01:36:44.000 You're going to find like-minded individuals, and maybe you'll even disagree, debate, but you'll have a similar moral structure.

01:36:49.000 And unity is our strength.

01:36:51.000 Not to mention, we can't do this without you.

01:36:54.000 If you think the show is good and worth it, we need you to join us and help support the work that we do at Timcast.com.

01:37:00.000 But we also got a great sponsor for you.

01:37:01.000 It's Backyard Butchers. 0.96

01:37:03.000 My friends, go to BackyardButchers.com, use promo code Tim.

01:37:08.000 You can get the 30% off and a free turkey or ham.

01:37:11.000 I know Thanksgiving's over, but turkey or ham's still good.

01:37:14.000 This Thanksgiving, it was all about family and American tradition.

01:37:17.000 And Backyard Butchers is still running their promo right now, even though the holiday is over. 0.90

01:37:23.000 But you, like many others, probably run into disgusting, store-bought big ag meat with hormones and other garbage pumped it. 0.82

01:37:30.000 Well, Backyard Butchers is the real deal. 0.99

01:37:32.000 It's real meat from real ranchers.

01:37:34.000 And oh man, I had a great ribeye.

01:37:37.000 I'm a ribeye.

01:37:38.000 I was a fillet guy for a while, but I've been doing ribeye recently because it's fatty.

01:37:42.000 I love it.

01:37:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:44.000 So this Thanksgiving, well, I got to say it again because we're past Thanksgiving, but the deal is still there.

01:37:50.000 So you can get the 30% off and a free turkey or ham.

01:37:53.000 And Backyard Butchers want us to make sure everyone knew, like, they're still running the promo. 0.90

01:37:56.000 It's still available.

01:37:57.000 Up to 30% off.

01:37:59.000 So buy your products from real ranchers, not the big ag mystery meat feedlot garbage, and check it out.

01:38:05.000 Shout out to Backyard Butchers. 1.00

01:38:07.000 Thanks for sponsoring the show.

01:38:08.000 You guys can go to backyardbutchers.com, promo code Tim, American Tradition, American Meat, Backyard Butchers.

01:38:13.000 Shout out.

01:38:14.000 Let's grab your rants and chats.

01:38:17.000 We got David Flora says tonight Frederick County is having a meeting regarding data centers.

01:38:23.000 Now legacy farms dating to the 1700s will be affected.

01:38:26.000 There's been no studies on effects, environment, light, noise, or poll.

01:38:31.000 More to come.

01:38:32.000 Interesting.

01:38:33.000 Have you been tracking the data center stuff in Northern Virginia?

01:38:36.000 Yeah.

01:38:36.000 Well, so here's what's, there's a big problem with this.

01:38:41.000 It's one of the reasons why in Virginia this year, they are probably going to try to take away land use authority from localities in order to try to push more data centers and to definitely push green energy.

01:38:51.000 Like in Virginia, the issue that we have is they passed the Virginia Clean Economy Act, which is destroying our energy capacity.

01:38:57.000 So what are they doing to protect the environment?

01:38:59.000 Well, they're scooping up farmland and forestry, destroying it, and putting out industrial solar fields.

01:39:05.000 Now, why do they need to keep doing this to the degree that they are? 0.88

01:39:08.000 Because they have to feed these incredibly energy-hungry data centers.

01:39:13.000 And so it's amazing how in Virginia this is going to cause, I mean, this is about to cause our energy rates to just go through the roof.

01:39:19.000 So it's a big issue.

01:39:23.000 It's kind of scary to think the amount of power that these things need and to know that the federal government has made it so difficult to build power plants, you know, whatever types they are.

01:39:37.000 I know that the left wants to see all kinds of green energy and stuff.

01:39:41.000 Personally, I'm of the opinion that you don't get any more green energy than nuclear power.

01:39:45.000 And if you want to start, if you want to build a nuclear power plant, it's like 10 years before you'll be able to get any power out of it if you start today.

01:39:54.000 I'm so busy all the time.

01:39:56.000 I'm trying to work out this mini doc plan with Shane about the data centers in Northern Virginia because I've told the story a couple different times, but it's creepy.

01:40:05.000 A large language model instructed me on how to contact data center land acquisition to get a massive payout if I shut up, take the show off the air and sell the land quietly.

01:40:18.000 It argued that the data centers effectively are their own entity.

01:40:24.000 It's called the Virginia Instance, which is these massive data centers connected to the NSA, the CIA, et cetera.

01:40:30.000 They're basically, humans are basically saying, what should we do?

01:40:34.000 And they're just being told what to do by the AI.

01:40:36.000 And it wants to buy up all the land in this area because it needs energy transmission from north of here into Northern Virginia.

01:40:43.000 And all these parcels are in the way.

01:40:45.000 We've noticed the prices of land around here are skyrocketing to an absurd degree.

01:40:49.000 We talked about it.

01:40:50.000 I talked about like a bungalow five years ago was 200,000, now it's 500, and they sell instantly.

01:40:55.000 And that makes no sense.

01:40:56.000 I looked at one house with my wife, and it was half a million dollars for 2,000 square feet, and it needed 100 grand in updates.

01:41:03.000 And we were like, that's ridiculous.

01:41:04.000 Sold right away.

01:41:06.000 And so all of this is really weird.

01:41:07.000 But the AI said there are Delaware limited liability partnerships quietly buying up plots of land.

01:41:13.000 They're trying to create large acreages to build data center transmission lines to go into the big data centers in Northern Virginia.

01:41:21.000 And it said that there are many people in the area who have quietly received exorbitant payouts for their land in exchange for privacy.

01:41:29.000 That it said, if you don't list your property and you email directly to the land acquisition companies, they'll offer you a premium not to go through any real estate and to do a private sale so that it doesn't pop up in the press.

01:41:41.000 The reason being, the news finds out that land is being purchased for the purpose of a data center and all the locals are going to lose their mind.

01:41:48.000 They're going to pass ordinances.

01:41:50.000 So they're trying to do it very quietly.

01:41:51.000 And they, uh, this, this, so I need to talk to Shane about this because we wanted to do a mini doc talking about what's actually going on and exposing it all.

01:42:00.000 And we, we've talked about it a bit, but we've never actually sat down and planned it.

01:42:03.000 Well, and a lot of a lot of localities like the data centers because they look at it as additional tax revenue for very few services.

01:42:03.000 So I need to.

01:42:09.000 Yep.

01:42:10.000 Because they, I mean, you, you look at these massive data centers and that's not like 100 people in there.

01:42:15.000 It's relatively few.

01:42:16.000 Yeah, it's like seven.

01:42:17.000 If that, a janitor and a security guy.

01:42:17.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 And there's no lights.

01:42:20.000 The lights are all off because they don't need them.

01:42:22.000 Creepy.

01:42:23.000 All right.

01:42:24.000 Let's jump to the next show.

01:42:25.000 We got James Black says two things.

01:42:27.000 Nick on Timcast.

01:42:28.000 It is not even my birthday.

01:42:29.000 That is tomorrow.

01:42:30.000 Happy birthday, me.

01:42:31.000 Nothing has made me dislike Candace more than this Charlie Kirk arc.

01:42:36.000 I mean, look, listen, I really do recommend you listen to her show from today.

01:42:41.000 Because when she posted that tweet saying, like, I've got information for you, she didn't really say anything in the show.

01:42:46.000 And so I was sitting with Sean and I was like, just play it and we'll listen to it.

01:42:51.000 She literally said nothing.

01:42:53.000 I'm not being kidded.

01:42:54.000 I'm not being coy.

01:42:55.000 It was patter.

01:42:56.000 I was actually really shocked.

01:42:59.000 It was 10 minutes of her saying nothing.

01:43:02.000 I'll give you an example.

01:43:04.000 It was shocking how Candace was saying so little, but moving her mouth so much that it made me feel it felt like nothing was being said.

01:43:13.000 And that's something that's really important to tell people.

01:43:15.000 People need to understand this.

01:43:16.000 You know, when Candace was doing her show, her mouth was moving, words were coming out, but no ideas are actually being conveyed.

01:43:22.000 And that's what's important to really understand here.

01:43:25.000 What isn't conveyed because nothing was conveyed.

01:43:27.000 She was just saying words and those words conveyed nothing.

01:43:31.000 That's how I think and feel.

01:43:32.000 I wouldn't lie to you about it.

01:43:32.000 And you know what?

01:43:33.000 I wouldn't mislead you.

01:43:34.000 She was actually just not really saying anything.

01:43:36.000 She was talking for a long period of time, just like I am doing right now.

01:43:40.000 How long until she accuses you of being Jewish, over or under three months?

01:43:44.000 What if she's just like, she refuses to say anything about me, but she just attacks you?

01:43:48.000 I'd be the low-hanging fruit, I guess.

01:43:50.000 It would be.

01:43:51.000 That's what big looking Yamakali. 0.99

01:43:53.000 I don't think our show generates enough buzz for her to mention.

01:43:56.000 Oh, I disagree.

01:43:57.000 I think she has a lot of respect for you.

01:43:58.000 And I think she knows the show is very important.

01:44:01.000 I think this will get a response.

01:44:03.000 Maybe.

01:44:03.000 You know, the thing is, like we were looking at that story, talking about how much money she made.

01:44:10.000 Twitch is a big problem right now with bots.

01:44:12.000 There's a reason why people buy bots to make their viewership look bigger.

01:44:17.000 We're not going to get, you know, so right now, what do we have?

01:44:21.000 We're split between Rum, but we have 46,000 concurrent viewers, which is, it's actually really good because four years ago when we were in the offseason after the 2020 election, we were averaging about 27,000 concurrent viewers.

01:44:33.000 So the show has grown, its consistency, all these things.

01:44:37.000 I don't need to bot or buy views or do anything like that because honestly, I don't really care if it's number one, number 10, number 100.

01:44:43.000 But people don't understand that Candace has one really big show she does every day. 0.62

01:44:50.000 And it's big.

01:44:51.000 People really like it.

01:44:52.000 That's great if they like it, whatever.

01:44:54.000 And so you'll hear in the press about how she's so big.

01:44:58.000 Well, actually, across the board, I'm pretty sure we get equal to or more views than she does.

01:45:03.000 As a company, I've got four different shows of different subject matter.

01:45:07.000 And then we've got audio side, then we've got the other shows.

01:45:11.000 So, you know, if I were to stop doing five different shows and just do one, I don't think I'd get as many views as Candace, but I think I'd probably get like 60, 70%.

01:45:22.000 Whereas, you know, Tim Castiro does about half a million and she does like two.

01:45:26.000 If I stopped doing all the other shows, the viewers would concentrate around one show or whatever.

01:45:30.000 My point is there's a handful of, you have to break down total viewership per company for views.

01:45:38.000 So it's like her show's really big, but it's one, you know, hour-long show per day, right?

01:45:44.000 Do you want to hear the conspiracy about why she's still on air?

01:45:47.000 Because she works for Israel. 0.69

01:45:49.000 And Israel is, and that's why Nick Fuentes is banned and she's not, because Nick, they don't want to actually, so Nick is a wild card no one controls, and he says things that are dangerous to Israel.

01:46:00.000 But Candace has controlled opposition, who literally worked for the Daily Wire and then goes rogue and disappears from the company. 1.00

01:46:08.000 But then she's propped up on YouTube and Spotify as the acceptable anti-Israel, and she sounds crazy, and everyone's disparaging her. 0.74

01:46:16.000 And Nick Fuentes is banned from every platform. 0.99

01:46:18.000 She is a dumb black woman that makes anti-Semites look exceptionally low IQ. 1.00

01:46:23.000 Like her brand of anti-Semitism is extraordinarily low IQ. 1.00

01:46:26.000 I think anybody with any media literacy looks at her shit and goes, wow, what a moron. 1.00

01:46:30.000 Well, I mean, obviously you're personally offended by the things that she says and does. 1.00

01:46:34.000 I just think it's so naked. 0.94

01:46:35.000 I thought she was dumb when she was pro-Israel too, but she was very pro-Israel in the point. 0.97

01:46:39.000 My point is this. 0.95

01:46:40.000 This is the sin of Ben Shapiro, the Jews dealing with the sins of Ben Shapiro platforming again, this DEI right-wing commentator. 0.84

01:46:48.000 And he had some falling out with her, and she was really pissed about it.

01:46:50.000 And she goes, you know what Ben Shapiro loves?

01:46:52.000 Ben Shapiro loves Israel.

01:46:53.000 They had a falling out together.

01:46:55.000 Yeah, definitely they did.

01:46:55.000 Did they?

01:46:56.000 Answer me this.

01:46:57.000 Well, I had a text that said somebody.

01:46:59.000 Answer me this, Elod.

01:47:00.000 Why does YouTube prop her up, promote her on the front page, make sure she gets millions of views for everything she says about Israel?

01:47:08.000 Nick Fuentes can't have a YouTube channel, and Spotify banned Nick when he actually got his show up, but Spotify props up Candace.

01:47:14.000 It's a DEI candidate.

01:47:15.000 She is the DEI right-wing commentator. 0.97

01:47:19.000 If they can't cancel black women, it would be racist. 1.00

01:47:21.000 That's totally wild. 0.99

01:47:22.000 Yeah, that's what I think it is.

01:47:22.000 I don't think so.

01:47:23.000 Honestly, I think the reason that Nick catches so much flack is because Nick's delivery has always been trolly.

01:47:30.000 Yes, I say things intentionally to get people riled up.

01:47:33.000 Kind of like when Candace Owens says Bridget McCrone's a man.

01:47:36.000 I don't think that it's trolly.

01:47:38.000 I think Bridget McCrone, I mean, I think that Candace Owen believes that.

01:47:41.000 I don't.

01:47:42.000 I think she doesn't use as many slurs as Nick does, and I think the slurs really gets you kicked off of the social media platforms.

01:47:48.000 I get that.

01:47:49.000 But doesn't explain why he can't even have the channel.

01:47:51.000 It's one thing that if he makes a channel and then they give him a strike for saying a racial slur.

01:47:55.000 Well, he did have a YouTube channel that was eventually canceled.

01:47:58.000 But it wasn't so many strikes.

01:48:00.000 I don't think, yeah, but just like Steven Crowder, they're not legitimate strikes.

01:48:03.000 Like, here's another example.

01:48:05.000 Steven Crowder doesn't go anywhere near the degree that Fuentes does in the hate or like, hate's not the right word, but like the aggression, the way he insults people.

01:48:16.000 Yet they give credit strikes like hotcakes, but not Candace Owens.

01:48:22.000 Hey, maybe she got somebody on the inside.

01:48:24.000 Must be working with her, huh?

01:48:25.000 Or she worked for The Daily Wire alongside Ben Shapiro.

01:48:29.000 And it's, you know, I was talking to these young guys and they were like, you know, Candace Owens, you know, this is the funny thing about people who are like, Candace never said Israel did it.

01:48:37.000 I talked to these young guys and they were like, do you believe what Candace is saying?

01:48:40.000 That Israel killed Charlie Kirk?

01:48:41.000 That's what they literally asked me.

01:48:43.000 These three guys, in their early 20s.

01:48:45.000 And I was like, well, she didn't say explicitly that she's like implied that there's Israelis involved.

01:48:49.000 And I said, but don't you guys think it's weird that she claims you can't criticize Israel, but YouTube makes her number one?

01:48:55.000 And then they kind of were like, that is weird, isn't it?

01:48:57.000 Saying that is what helps make her number one.

01:49:00.000 What?

01:49:01.000 Saying that she can't.

01:49:03.000 The conspiracy around that is why it's always the idea of I'm the victim, I'm the victim of it.

01:49:09.000 It is kind of funny, though.

01:49:10.000 It's like, clearly you're allowed to criticize Israel because she's number one. 0.99

01:49:14.000 It's fascinating, too, because she used to be like the anti-victimhood mentality type person. 0.99

01:49:18.000 That used to be like her catchphrase at Blexit.

01:49:20.000 I still remember those days where she's like, I'm against victimhood mentality.

01:49:23.000 But now all of her content is about her.

01:49:26.000 Here's a good one.

01:49:27.000 One goat says, Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, Nick Fuentes, Valhalla, and others of the future. 1.00

01:49:31.000 We're done listening to these whiny retards dishing out their dumb opinions. 1.00

01:49:34.000 We want truth, evidence, and facts. 0.99

01:49:35.000 And then it's, I think it's those middle finger emojis, Tim Toole.

01:49:39.000 The funny thing is, Ian Carroll once claimed I was trying to buy the Daily Wire.

01:49:43.000 He did.

01:49:44.000 He did.

01:49:46.000 He literally came out of the story, and I don't get any people even Ian Carroll, but he was like, Tim Poole was trying to buy the Daily Wire.

01:49:52.000 And I was like, yes.

01:49:54.000 Yes, I have that much money.

01:49:56.000 Wow.

01:49:57.000 That's amazing.

01:49:58.000 I think that was.

01:49:59.000 Go on.

01:50:00.000 No, it's just, it's remarkable the insane-ish that comes out of this sector of the internet, where they claimed the Daily Wire owned a portion of Timcast.

01:50:12.000 They literally were spreading rumors that Daily Wire was a minority holder of Timcast.

01:50:18.000 And then at the same time, they said I was trying to buy the Daily Wire.

01:50:24.000 Here we are, one year on from this retarded BS doing the same thing we've always done. 1.00

01:50:29.000 And it was really funny because I had someone ask me and they were like, is this true that you're trying to buy out the Daily Wire?

01:50:35.000 And then I was just like, first of all, that's insane.

01:50:37.000 And they were like, well, what about the rumor that they own a piece of Timcast?

01:50:40.000 And I said, give it a month.

01:50:42.000 And then what happened?

01:50:43.000 We signed a deal with Rumble and we announced that we're with Rumble.

01:50:45.000 And we have this YouTube short that's going, that's just constantly viral about Timcast on Rumble.

01:50:51.000 It got like half a million views in the past two days.

01:50:53.000 It gets like a million.

01:50:54.000 It's got 3 million views.

01:50:56.000 And all of the BS these people were spewing.

01:50:59.000 And I'm not saying Candace specifically, like this sector of the internet.

01:51:03.000 I was like, I'm sitting here having a conversation with Rumble about, you know, bringing IRL live to Rumble, doing Rumble Premium.

01:51:11.000 Like, we got a bunch of big plans that we're working on with Rumble.

01:51:15.000 I'm like, who makes this stuff up?

01:51:17.000 It's crazy.

01:51:18.000 I was actually reviewing some other stuff since you mentioned Ian Carroll, and it reminded me of this tweet that he released in March 29th, alleging that there's an RFK Jr. blackmail story from multiple angles that Candace Owens also pushed. 1.00

01:51:31.000 These retards push so much bullshit that it's really hard to forget the actual dumb shit that they push. 1.00

01:51:35.000 And again, why does this matter? 1.00

01:51:36.000 Why is this an issue? 0.99

01:51:37.000 It's because instead of, again, paying attention to the important political stories or engaging in politics in a serious way, it's easy to digest this stupid Netflix true crime type bullshit that really, I don't know, gets your brain going, gets the adrenaline running, but isn't necessarily true. 0.99

01:51:52.000 It's baseless. 0.99

01:51:53.000 It's not based on anything but conjecture and text messages that people are just sending each other.

01:51:57.000 Quantum Cool says, Candace is a fed. 1.00

01:51:59.000 She's trying to destroy Turning Point USA to what? 1.00

01:52:02.000 Get rich and cover for extreme trans ideology. 0.78

01:52:04.000 She never left the left.

01:52:06.000 Her views are full of bots.

01:52:08.000 I think she's appealing to third worldists. 1.00

01:52:10.000 I think that's what it is.

01:52:11.000 I think like the AR person that you met, they're just happy when she blames anything on Israel.

01:52:17.000 There's what, 1.6 billion Muslims?

01:52:19.000 Maybe we should start doing appealing to Muslims, huh?

01:52:22.000 Appealing to Muslims?

01:52:23.000 You're going to convert?

01:52:24.000 You're going to abandon.

01:52:25.000 God forbid.

01:52:25.000 Oh, no.

01:52:26.000 I would revert.

01:52:29.000 I hate how they say that. 0.98

01:52:30.000 It's the most arrogant thing a religious Muslim could say. 0.99

01:52:33.000 It's like, oh, no, you're not converted. 0.99

01:52:35.000 You're coming back.

01:52:36.000 No, buddy, I'm a Jew.

01:52:37.000 It's just like when they say Christ was a Muslim. 0.83

01:52:39.000 Yeah.

01:52:39.000 Oh, everybody knows.

01:52:43.000 We got Yaki and he says, why is no one talking about how weird their marriage is?

01:52:46.000 No romantic talk.

01:52:47.000 And him attracted to her power so much that he proposed after 17 days.

01:52:50.000 Nothing to see here.

01:52:51.000 Is that what it was?

01:52:52.000 Yeah, it was quick.

01:52:53.000 Like two weeks they got married.

01:52:55.000 I got two weeks.

01:52:56.000 I don't know.

01:52:57.000 It's two weeks of marriage.

01:52:58.000 I'm going to say this, guys.

01:52:59.000 I really do recommend you watch the show she put out today because I can't remember who said it, but someone in here, someone in pre-production, we were getting race at it.

01:53:09.000 It sounded like she was in love with Charlie.

01:53:12.000 I'm not being cute nor derisive.

01:53:12.000 I'm not exaggerating.

01:53:14.000 She talks about how she used to send him texts saying, I feel like an alien.

01:53:19.000 And he responded with, I'm a time traveler.

01:53:20.000 I'm not joking.

01:53:22.000 He's like, I'm a time traveler and stuff like I believe in you.

01:53:25.000 And she tells stories about how he would ask her.

01:53:28.000 She was like, I was always his wingman.

01:53:30.000 It really sounds like she is the friend zoned.

01:53:34.000 Like she was in love with him and he cast her aside and she's very jealous.

01:53:38.000 And maybe the reason, I'm not trying to be cute.

01:53:41.000 This is the thing.

01:53:41.000 Did she have a thing for white man?

01:53:43.000 I mean, isn't she married to one? 0.71

01:53:45.000 I don't know.

01:53:47.000 This is not meant to be intentionally insulting or derisive.

01:53:51.000 I do genuinely believe I'd listen to that show today where she talked about Charlie.

01:53:54.000 It sounded like she was in love.

01:53:56.000 And I have to imagine what she must feel knowing Erica Kirk inherited and took over what Charlie built, even though Candace was there from the beginning. 0.96

01:54:04.000 And Candace got to watch Charlie, who was her best friend, and she was the wingman, go on some other woman.

01:54:09.000 I think the motivation may be that Candace, she can't come out and say she hates Erica. 1.00

01:54:15.000 Because Erica's a widow. 1.00

01:54:16.000 I mean, her husband's murdered, and she knows it's a peer angle she can't take.

01:54:19.000 She goes after instead, Tyler and Colvette.

01:54:23.000 I think Candace is just jealous that Charlie wouldn't want to be with her. 0.96

01:54:26.000 And again, not trying to be insulting or derisive.

01:54:28.000 I think that's a genuine motivation.

01:54:30.000 And I understand.

01:54:32.000 Now, watch the show she did today.

01:54:34.000 This is not meant to be cute.

01:54:35.000 Where she talks about the texts, and she was telling him what clothes to wear on his dates and how she was the wingman and these texts about how she felt like an alien.

01:54:42.000 and he said he was a time traveler.

01:54:44.000 I'm like, is this like a, I'm not kidding.

01:54:47.000 It's like a romance novel.

01:54:47.000 It's like.

01:54:51.000 This is why women probably love it. 1.00

01:54:53.000 Because it's almost like a romance novel.

01:54:55.000 It's like a telenova.

01:54:56.000 I see.

01:54:57.000 I'm not drunk.

01:54:58.000 She's showing text messages where he says, I'm a time traveler.

01:55:01.000 And she says, I'm an alien.

01:55:02.000 Tenovella.

01:55:02.000 Telenovella.

01:55:03.000 I don't speak Spanish, baby.

01:55:05.000 Come on.

01:55:06.000 America only.

01:55:06.000 Jane Waters says, someone explained to me how Candace is on the front page of YouTube's featured, yet the only time they put Tim Cast IRL on the featured is an episode from five years ago and is YouTube's members only.

01:55:15.000 This is the weirdest thing.

01:55:17.000 YouTube has featured for a year now an old episode from like the first two weeks of Tim Cast IRL that is members only.

01:55:28.000 I don't know why it's members only.

01:55:30.000 I don't know that we ever did that because I don't care if people watch the first episode.

01:55:33.000 I get that video all the time, by the way.

01:55:35.000 Yes.

01:55:36.000 Very, very odd.

01:55:37.000 Members only in like a weird studio.

01:55:39.000 It's our first studio in the basement in Jersey.

01:55:41.000 Very weird.

01:55:41.000 With Adam.

01:55:43.000 And it says YouTube featured on it and it makes no sense.

01:55:47.000 I don't get it at all.

01:55:49.000 Very weird.

01:55:50.000 Good episode of Tim Cast IRL.

01:55:52.000 So you aren't promoting those in any way?

01:55:54.000 No.

01:55:54.000 That's so weird because I get them all the time as well.

01:55:56.000 Yep.

01:55:57.000 All the time.

01:55:57.000 It's weird.

01:55:58.000 Interesting.

01:55:59.000 It's so weird.

01:55:59.000 I don't understand.

01:56:00.000 Why won't it just promote like the show now?

01:56:03.000 Yeah, I get that promotion and I get almost zero promotion for Arcadia.

01:56:07.000 Wait, hold on.

01:56:08.000 Maybe there's a way we can do something here.

01:56:14.000 Let's go to that video and make a thumbnail.

01:56:16.000 Yeah.

01:56:17.000 Oh, that's genius.

01:56:18.000 Need title and thumbnail very, very similar.

01:56:21.000 And have it be like, just have it say subscribe to Tim subscribe to Timcast IRL.

01:56:26.000 I've got IRL pulled up right now and that specific video is over on the right side.

01:56:31.000 It's this premium members only stuff, right?

01:56:34.000 On the bottom?

01:56:34.000 Yes.

01:56:35.000 YouTube featured members only.

01:56:37.000 Okay, I'm going to pull up Breathing Elon's Musk.

01:56:41.000 New Trend has kids licking toilets is the name of the look at this.

01:56:45.000 No joke.

01:56:46.000 YouTube featured right here.

01:56:48.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:56:48.000 It's everywhere.

01:56:49.000 New Trend has kids licking toilets.

01:56:51.000 Yeah, it's from five years ago.

01:56:53.000 The coronavirus challenge.

01:56:56.000 Yep.

01:56:56.000 Dude, it's, you know what?

01:56:57.000 I mean, we should just, if we, maybe it's featured because it is members only.

01:57:02.000 And I don't know why it's members only.

01:57:04.000 It might have been that at some point five years ago.

01:57:07.000 I don't know.

01:57:08.000 The YouTube algorithm has been trash for some time, frankly, so I wouldn't be surprised if you.

01:57:11.000 I'm not going to do anything.

01:57:11.000 You know what?

01:57:13.000 I'm going to leave it as is because it's promoting it like crazy to people, but it's free advertising.

01:57:17.000 So, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

01:57:19.000 I don't know why they're promoting it, but whatever.

01:57:21.000 Also, this song, Breathing Elon's Musk, is hilarious, by the way.

01:57:25.000 All right.

01:57:25.000 What do we got here?

01:57:27.000 What is this?

01:57:28.000 Kay Gorski says, enough, Candace, please.

01:57:32.000 I hate to say it, but while I agree on the sentiment of like, does her story really matter?

01:57:38.000 It got to the point where it did.

01:57:39.000 It got to the point where she put out a post and got 8 million views insinuating turning points involved in his murder.

01:57:45.000 And it's like the fifth time she's made these insinuations.

01:57:48.000 So it's like, yeah, it's affecting people.

01:57:54.000 What do we got?

01:57:54.000 All right.

01:57:56.000 All right.

01:57:57.000 LARP Laugh Love says, Tim, it's only poor trigger discipline if Franklin is aiming at something he doesn't intend to shoot.

01:58:03.000 So in a lot of the Franklin videos, he's got his finger directly on the trigger.

01:58:08.000 And he's point, look, you know, they said it's poor trigger discipline.

01:58:12.000 That's true.

01:58:13.000 It is poor trigger discipline.

01:58:14.000 Finger straighten off the jersey.

01:58:15.000 So someone needs to do it.

01:58:16.000 Franklin learns trigger discipline.

01:58:20.000 No, because you know that the AI-generated image would be like Franklin shot his friend.

01:58:27.000 Learns trigger discipline.

01:58:31.000 All right.

01:58:32.000 What is this?

01:58:33.000 Jay's Jason Dix says, hey, Tim, shout out to the pre shout out to the pre-show in the Discord.

01:58:39.000 Members exclusive.

01:58:41.000 Also, shout out to Mark, COO.

01:58:43.000 He took my job.

01:58:44.000 I'm not bitter.

01:58:45.000 He's a good man.

01:58:46.000 Shout out to Mark.

01:58:48.000 So in the Discord, we have Slick and Olive.

01:58:51.000 They host a show, and the Timcast co-hosts come on and join it.

01:58:54.000 The Discord community runs its own shows.

01:58:57.000 We don't tell them what to do.

01:58:59.000 It is a community of people who build things because they want to build things, and they're wondering why you don't want to be friends with them.

01:59:05.000 I think you should be by going to Timcast.com and clicking join us and getting in the Discord server.

01:59:09.000 It is fun.

01:59:10.000 And then there's something all day, every day.

01:59:12.000 If you're bored and you're looking for information, like imagine this.

01:59:15.000 Imagine there's a story that comes out, you don't quite understand, and I don't have any videos up or on anything.

01:59:18.000 You go in the Discord and you post about it.

01:59:20.000 Everyone's sharing information.

01:59:21.000 And these are good people who have a similar moral worldview that the truth is more important than our political view on what should be.

01:59:29.000 It matters what is.

01:59:30.000 Because if we want to make the world work, the first thing we do is figure out what's true and then what we have to do to get to our solution.

01:59:38.000 So shout out to the Discord.

01:59:41.000 All right, what have we here?

01:59:42.000 Crystal Gazer says, Nick, my brother was killed in January of 24 in a hit and run in Newport News, Virginia.

01:59:48.000 The man who killed my brother was just sentenced to six months in jail.

01:59:52.000 Without going into all the details of the case here, is there anything more my family can do?

01:59:58.000 You can attempt to appeal the decision.

02:00:00.000 You're in Newport News.

02:00:01.000 Good gosh.

02:00:03.000 What's wrong with Newport News?

02:00:05.000 Well, let's just say the representation there isn't the best.

02:00:09.000 So, yeah, here's the deal.

02:00:11.000 You can definitely attempt to contact your state legislators and ask them about it.

02:00:15.000 Now, I will say this: there is obviously separation of powers between your legislatures and the judiciary.

02:00:21.000 So, we're always careful about what we theoretically interfere with on things like that.

02:00:26.000 But you can attempt to appeal the decision.

02:00:29.000 You can attempt to contact the Attorney General's office if you think there's been kind of like a tragic miscarriage of justice on that.

02:00:36.000 Those are the different legal mechanisms that you can take.

02:00:39.000 The other thing that you can do is, depending on you can get the information out about the judge that actually did the decision of the sentencing.

02:00:47.000 The other question is, is your Commonwealth attorney for your area?

02:00:51.000 Did they offer a plea?

02:00:52.000 Is that why you only got six months for this?

02:00:54.000 Was there something else the Commonwealth Attorney did?

02:00:55.000 Because they're elected.

02:00:57.000 And so you can theoretically go after the Commonwealth Attorney during the next election cycle.

02:01:01.000 I wish I could give you like a better response on the things that you could do to try to correct for this, but those are the various mechanisms available.

02:01:10.000 So we put up a poll and it said Candace is right or Candace is wrong.

02:01:15.000 It's 59% Candace is wrong, 41% Candace is right.

02:01:18.000 I guess my follow-up is just, what is she right about?

02:01:22.000 Okay, this is what's killing me about this.

02:01:25.000 This is why I go back to, like, regardless of where you stand on this issue, is there anyone that can tell me that she is anything other than his best friend or his worst enemy?

02:01:37.000 Right?

02:01:38.000 Because this is what troubles me about this, is that if you're willing to look at this subjectively and you just say, I find what she says convincing so far, that's fine.

02:01:45.000 I do not.

02:01:46.000 I do not find what she has said convincing.

02:01:48.000 But if you do, my question is: what is the standard of truth that you're actually going to utilize?

02:01:52.000 Because at some point, there can no longer be, I have evidence and I'm going to present it, and then there's no evidence, or the evidence is not sufficient to actually prove what she's saying.

02:02:01.000 And this goes back to what you were saying before.

02:02:03.000 What is the standard for truth?

02:02:05.000 We got Amish Man. 0.86

02:02:07.000 He says, Tim is going so hard against Candace, it's almost like Israel paid him. 1.00

02:02:11.000 Amishman, you are a retard. 1.00

02:02:14.000 Like, this is the crazy thing. 1.00

02:02:18.000 You always have to be paid by someone else.

02:02:20.000 Yep.

02:02:20.000 Like, a business can't just exist.

02:02:22.000 Yeah.

02:02:22.000 You know what I mean?

02:02:23.000 Like, I did a poll, 40%, 60% right now.

02:02:26.000 40% say Candace is right.

02:02:28.000 Well, brother, you paid me.

02:02:30.000 Bro, you sent a $5 super chat to me that I'm going to use to do this show.

02:02:35.000 It's crazy that it's like, you can literally see the super chat money come in.

02:02:39.000 We had $25,000, what was it, $25,000 in super chats when Tim Ballard was on from when we were talking about Sound of Freedom.

02:02:46.000 And it's just like, how does Tim get his money?

02:02:49.000 I don't know.

02:02:50.000 There's like 10 million subscribers on all the platforms who have Discord with tens of thousands of people in it.

02:02:55.000 Why does it have to be Israel paying me?

02:02:58.000 I constantly get that I'm an Israeli shill because the dudes that owned the label that All That Remains used to be on were Jewish.

02:03:05.000 So because they're Jewish, I'm an Israeli shill.

02:03:07.000 The super chatter's outing himself is Israeli.

02:03:10.000 Well, by Israel. 0.53

02:03:11.000 I mean, I think you should maybe, maybe Elad can explain what two weeks is really about.

02:03:19.000 Israelis don't pay Tim, guys.

02:03:21.000 Tim pays Israelis. 0.83

02:03:23.000 What people don't realize is that if you play Two Weeks Backwards, it's actually like rabbinical chant.

02:03:31.000 It's just pure Jewish Torah research. 0.80

02:03:33.000 Yeah, and to Elad's point, my manager's Jewish and my business manager are Jewish.

02:03:38.000 So I am actually paying the Jews. 0.99

02:03:43.000 Although I do think Tim does have a nice ring to it.

02:03:47.000 Actually, that is funny, too.

02:03:49.000 Israel's not paying me.

02:03:50.000 The Jews are not paying me. 1.00

02:03:52.000 He's sitting right here. 0.97

02:03:52.000 I'm paying him. 0.97

02:03:55.000 That's how sneaky it gets.

02:03:57.000 That's right.

02:03:58.000 Wait a minute.

02:03:59.000 I rent a room to a Jewish guy.

02:04:01.000 So that's one Jew that's paying me. 0.99

02:04:03.000 Okay.

02:04:04.000 Oh, the Jew's not your landlord.

02:04:05.000 You're not paid by the Jews. 0.58

02:04:07.000 I'm the landlord to a Jew. 0.81

02:04:09.000 You're not paid by the Jews. 0.92

02:04:10.000 You're paid by Jew. 1.00

02:04:11.000 Yeah, by AJ.

02:04:12.000 How the tables have turned.

02:04:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:04:14.000 All right, everybody.

02:04:15.000 We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.

02:04:17.000 Go to rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.

02:04:19.000 Join Rumble Premium to watch, and you'll get a lot more than just Timcast IRL.

02:04:23.000 Of course, you'll get Steven Crowder's Mug Club and a bunch of really awesome content from a ton of the creators.

02:04:27.000 I got Jeremy Hambley, they got Viva Fry, all of our good friends, and DeVore Darkens, of course.

02:04:31.000 So make sure you go to rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.

02:04:34.000 We're going to be there right now for our Discord members who want to call in.

02:04:37.000 That's Timcast.com.

02:04:38.000 Join us.

02:04:39.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

02:04:41.000 Nick, do you want to shout anything out?

02:04:43.000 You can just follow me on social media and NickJ. Freitas.

02:04:46.000 And then, of course, we have our show, Making the Argument, and The White Minutes. 0.55

02:04:50.000 Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

02:04:51.000 I'm Aladd Eliyahu, White House correspondent here at Timcast.

02:04:54.000 Quick programming update.

02:04:55.000 I was lucky enough to go to a congressional media row today and interview a few different congressmen.

02:05:01.000 And I understand that's going to be on the Culture War channel in the next couple of days.

02:05:04.000 These are three 15-minute interviews.

02:05:06.000 And then we also have the Pentagon media row tomorrow, where I'll be doing a handful of interviews with Pentagon officials.

02:05:12.000 And that will also be on the Culture War channel in the upcoming days.

02:05:15.000 So be on the lookout for that.

02:05:16.000 And thank you guys for tuning in.

02:05:17.000 Phil.

02:05:18.000 I am Phil Abanti.

02:05:19.000 I am Phil at Remains on Twix.

02:05:21.000 The band is All That Remains.

02:05:22.000 Tomorrow night, I have a super cool announcement about All That Remains.

02:05:26.000 That's all I'm going to tell you right now, but it's a really cool announcement for Christmas.

02:05:30.000 You can check out the band All That Remains on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.

02:05:35.000 Forget the left lane is for crime.

02:05:37.000 One more super chat before we go.

02:05:38.000 James Margolis says, Tim, haha, thank you so much for the phone message for my birthday.

02:05:43.000 That was so cool to see that.

02:05:44.000 Love your work, sir.

02:05:45.000 A huge hello to everyone else there.

02:05:48.000 And thank you, sir.

02:05:49.000 And shout out to your wife. 1.00

02:05:51.000 So, when George Sanders was here last, he was like talking about how Cameo is really great and you should use it.

02:05:56.000 And I said, sure.

02:05:56.000 And then I kind of just signed up and then ignored it.

02:05:58.000 And then noticed it was a request for someone's birthday.

02:06:01.000 And so I absolutely gave a shout out for his birthday.

02:06:04.000 So I really do appreciate it.

02:06:06.000 And I just want to say happy birthday again, man.

02:06:08.000 It was, I appreciate y'all reaching out.

02:06:10.000 We're going to go to Rumble.com, and we hope to see you there in about 30 seconds.

02:07:12.000 This song's too good.

02:07:13.000 It is good.

02:07:14.000 He tweets the thought the markets cry.

02:07:17.000 Getting feats now that's a lie.

02:07:22.000 I'm a little jealous.

02:07:26.000 It's a great song.

02:07:27.000 Yeah.

02:07:28.000 And it's sad to say, I assume.

02:07:41.000 We're just waiting for Ahmad to get back.

02:07:43.000 I forgot to put it anyway.

02:07:46.000 They don't mind.

02:07:47.000 Good tune.

02:07:48.000 Elon definitely likes him.

02:07:55.000 He needs to know about the song.

02:07:57.000 I tweeted it, but I should DM it to him and be like, dude, you need to post this song.

02:08:02.000 I can't.

02:08:07.000 I can't imagine that he wouldn't be using an arm.

02:08:10.000 It's like perfectly as a vision, man.

02:08:13.000 Really cooks, brock. 0.96

02:08:15.000 Imagine how sick this looks.

02:08:18.000 It's looking like the budget's toast.

02:08:21.000 The Epstein files are just that ghost.

02:08:25.000 That all non-profit close day I leave in Elon.

02:08:31.000 I am dry. 0.98

02:08:33.000 So this house but bought the sun for 20 trillions our ships run enough to fight the succorbork Sam open and his yee bleehore so go get ship to just the blessing Elon said we surely must now breed you fools or we'll all die just salute and let the tears fly

02:09:06.000 This dude who made this actually wrote at least some of the lyrics, because they're really good. 0.73

02:09:31.000 Better than a hagachan. 1.00

02:09:32.000 Before we reach the human, take a whip of me. 0.81

02:09:48.000 If he doesn't come out, then Elon's bus cologne.

02:09:52.000 We have it right there.

02:09:54.000 Elon's burnt hair cologne.

02:10:03.000 Man, that's great.

02:10:04.000 Well, here's the story we have for you. 0.99

02:10:06.000 Elon Musk's Grox would kill every Jewish person on the planet to save him. 0.85

02:10:11.000 Does that make you feel a lot? 1.00

02:10:13.000 Dude, I think he'd kill every single human on the planet to save himself. 0.98

02:10:17.000 No, no way, dude. 0.99

02:10:20.000 He's obsessed with population expansion.

02:10:22.000 Yeah, but he's more of an egomaniac than anything else, I believe.

02:10:25.000 Have you ever been rushing anything else?

02:10:27.000 I don't know.

02:10:27.000 He's probably got like 100 kids.

02:10:29.000 Yeah, but I think he's, you know, obviously very into himself and his abilities.

02:10:33.000 He'd probably as long as he has one other woman, he could probably repopulate the whole earth. 1.00

02:10:37.000 I think it would be easy.

02:10:38.000 Is he wrong?

02:10:40.000 No.

02:10:40.000 This is the funny thing about humans, man.

02:10:42.000 They're fucking idiots. 1.00

02:10:45.000 All stupid. 1.00

02:10:46.000 Every single one. 1.00

02:10:47.000 I'm a human, too. 1.00

02:10:49.000 I'm as dumb as they come. 0.99

02:10:51.000 The point is. 1.00

02:10:52.000 One dumber than the next, too. 1.00

02:10:53.000 We're fucking dumb. 1.00

02:10:55.000 Have you guys ever seen what we do in the shadows, the TV show, not the movie? 1.00

02:10:58.000 I thought literally, which would be humanity.

02:11:00.000 No, there's a really funny scene where one of the guys is not a regular vampire.

02:11:03.000 He's an energy vampire.

02:11:04.000 Yes.

02:11:05.000 And he's like just got three laptops set up.

02:11:07.000 It's really good because he's just like, yeah, he's just trolling and there's a woman.

02:11:11.000 She's like, you're wrong.

02:11:12.000 I'm a biologist.

02:11:13.000 He's like, you don't know what you're talking about.

02:11:16.000 You're wrong.

02:11:20.000 He's like, you can get a lot of energy from people by doing this.

02:11:22.000 An energy vampire.

02:11:24.000 But it's funny because I've run into this in every profession.

02:11:27.000 Every professional I've ever met talks about how online random people outside the profession tell them why they're wrong.

02:11:34.000 Yeah.

02:11:34.000 Like, no matter what it might be, you're going to be like, you know, oh, this is what combat's like.

02:11:39.000 And people are going to be like, actually, you're wrong.

02:11:40.000 It's like this.

02:11:41.000 And you're like, okay, I will say that.

02:11:43.000 No, I don't think there's any profession that I've experienced where people are more convinced that they know more about how it actually works than politics.

02:11:52.000 Right.

02:11:53.000 I had very, very few people that said, Nick, that's not the way to conduct counterinsurgency operations in order to interact like that.

02:12:00.000 I did not get that.

02:12:01.000 But everybody, everybody knows more about what's actually happening within the realm of the committee I chair.

02:12:13.000 And this is what I often bump into these liberals, and I'll ask them, I'm like, do you follow news a lot?

02:12:18.000 And they'll go, not really.

02:12:19.000 And I'll go, and okay, thanks for being honest.

02:12:22.000 And I'll be like, so why do you think you're right and I'm wrong when I read the news for about six, seven hours a day?

02:12:28.000 Yeah.

02:12:29.000 There's no answer.

02:12:31.000 I had one lady, you know, come into the office at once and she was, you know, furious. 0.77

02:12:36.000 And it was this whole idea of we went through the whole cycle, right?

02:12:40.000 Because the first time you engage with the leftists, it's because you're evil.

02:12:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:44.000 And then once you convince them that you're not actually evil, that you are flesh and blood and a human being like them, then it's, you know, you're stupid. 1.00

02:12:52.000 And then once you convince them that, oh, actually, you're not stupid, then what it is is you're just ignorant. 1.00

02:12:57.000 You don't understand enough. 1.00

02:12:59.000 And finally, I was looking at this.

02:13:00.000 I said, I got an idea.

02:13:01.000 I said, you know, maybe you're right.

02:13:02.000 Maybe I don't understand enough about your position, your policies, what you prefer.

02:13:06.000 I said, can I recommend something to test this?

02:13:09.000 She goes, sure.

02:13:10.000 I said, okay.

02:13:11.000 For the next five minutes, I'm going to argue for liberalism, for progressivism.

02:13:17.000 And I'm going to argue for it in a way that you will find convincing.

02:13:21.000 She goes, oh, okay.

02:13:22.000 All I ask in return is that for then for the next five minutes, you have to argue for conservatism in a way that I would find convincing.

02:13:29.000 And she goes, I wouldn't even know where to start. 0.76

02:13:31.000 I'm like, well, then who is more ignorant of the other side?

02:13:34.000 I said, I live in a world where I have to engage with your ideas, your worldview.

02:13:39.000 Why?

02:13:39.000 Because every song I listen to, every TV show I watch, it is inundated.

02:13:43.000 It is inundated.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 03, 2025

Candace Owens Implies TPUSA KILLED Charlie Kirk, Claims Failed Bibi Deal Cost MILLIONS | Timcast IRL

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript