Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Candace Owens IMPLODES, Audience IN REVOLT, Claim SHES A CLONE Or GOT THE CALL | Timcast IRL

00:02:13.000 Candace Owens had an absolutely massive show today with around 350,000 concurrent viewers all waiting patiently to see what she has to say about her meeting with Erica Kirk.

00:02:28.000 And it did not go well.

00:02:29.000 I mean, well, if you're talking metrics and having a big show.

00:02:33.000 Congratulations, Candace.

00:02:34.000 You've done very, very well for yourself with this massive show. 0.96

00:02:36.000 But holy crap, the chat was exploding, calling her sellout. 0.51

00:02:41.000 Some people are actually claiming she's a clone. 0.98

00:02:43.000 That when she went into this meeting with Erica, they captured her, cloned her, and they've replaced her now because Candace is walking things back, insinuating that Tyler Robinson may actually be the killer, that Charlie didn't mean that they are trying to kill me.

00:02:55.000 He meant the left was trying to kill him, which, yeah, everyone kind of thought.

00:02:59.000 And with this backtracking, she is now getting roasted by commenters on Axe, former audience.

00:03:05.000 They're claiming she's betrayed them and she got the call.

00:03:10.000 Indeed.

00:03:11.000 So we're talking about that.

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00:07:27.000 Let's get into it.

00:07:28.000 We got this tweet first off from Colin Rugg.

00:07:31.000 He says, Candace Owens says her meeting with Erica Kirk was productive and says she is very happy that we are on much better feet.

00:07:38.000 Many of her super chatters were not happy with her throughout the show as she shared details about her meeting with Erica.

00:07:43.000 Despite the productive meeting, Owen said she still felt there were shady characters at TPUSA.

00:07:48.000 Toward the end of her show, Owens addressed some of the negative comments and accused the chet of being botted.

00:07:54.000 Take a look at this. 0.94

00:07:55.000 One chat says, people may call this dumb, but Candace looking to the right too much. 0.95

00:07:59.000 Mikey, phone call doesn't add up with her timeline. 0.87

00:08:02.000 And WTF, are you putting the plane debunking on the website, not YouTube?

00:08:07.000 One says, Fuen says, if you see this, please expose who this actor is and who funds her.

00:08:11.000 You have the green light.

00:08:12.000 One person saying, wow, this breaks my heart.

00:08:13.000 Another says, this is just a word salad.

00:08:16.000 She is rambling, sad to say, but you are not passing the vibe check.

00:08:19.000 The market is always right.

00:08:21.000 And the chat is overwhelmingly saying, you are not the same.

00:08:24.000 Oh, it gets crazier.

00:08:26.000 Candace having to tell her audience she doesn't have the goods is not going well.

00:08:29.000 Here's more.

00:08:30.000 One person says, in other words, you were wrong about everything you said.

00:08:34.000 Another person says it wasn't a plane.

00:08:35.000 It was really a flying carpet.

00:08:37.000 Candace has been set up.

00:08:38.000 These bits in the room are next level.

00:08:40.000 Another person saying, is this an apology video for Candace?

00:08:42.000 And here's where it gets real fun.

00:08:44.000 One person saying, Candace Owens has either been cloned or threatened.

00:08:48.000 She is backtracking and backsliding after her productive meeting with Erica Kirk.

00:08:52.000 It's over.

00:08:53.000 Here's one.

00:08:54.000 One person tweeting, this is super suspicious.

00:08:57.000 I think she got cloned.

00:08:58.000 They're officially promoting the new Candace.

00:09:01.000 Another individual says, we will only see a clone of Candace from December 16th onward.

00:09:06.000 It takes three months to grow a clone.

00:09:08.000 Hence why it took them until now to finally have this meeting.

00:09:11.000 She was a nice girl.

00:09:12.000 I hope her and Ye's clone still get along in the future. 1.00

00:09:15.000 I hope that's a joke.

00:09:17.000 I don't think it is.

00:09:17.000 That's my favorite one.

00:09:20.000 How do you deal with this kind of psychosis with people?

00:09:23.000 You know, smile.

00:09:24.000 When you pray, which is what Candace Owens has done, when you prey emotionally on the most fringe of American society.

00:09:31.000 The most vulnerable.

00:09:32.000 The most vulnerable and the most insane and probably eventually the most violent.

00:09:37.000 This is what happens.

00:09:38.000 And, you know, we can talk about what really happened in that meeting, but Candace's audience is eating itself.

00:09:45.000 And am I wrong to say it's kind of beautiful to see it?

00:09:50.000 It really is.

00:09:50.000 I mean, I was a big Candace Owens fan, big Tucker Carlson fan.

00:09:55.000 I can't believe what I've witnessed.

00:09:57.000 The craziness, the insanity.

00:10:00.000 I mean, three months ago, we were flying through the U.S. Everything was all going right.

00:10:07.000 The Dems were completely dead.

00:10:09.000 There was never going to be, we were going to have all the power.

00:10:12.000 And then she, her, and I think Tucker also decided, let's see if we could fracture the right as much as we can with craziness.

00:10:20.000 And I just don't know.

00:10:22.000 How can anybody believe what's coming?

00:10:24.000 If I could figure out a way how to recall 50 to 60,000 books, because I have a Candace Owen blurb on the back of one of my books.

00:10:33.000 And I've been trying to figure out how to financially do it, but so far to no avail.

00:10:39.000 It's a weird space for me.

00:10:40.000 Just like it is with you, Tim.

00:10:42.000 I know, like, we know, but we know.

00:10:46.000 And I know, no.

00:10:46.000 But we know all of these people.

00:10:48.000 Like, it's so crazy to me when Charlie just started doing his campus tours.

00:10:54.000 We're talking a step and repeat and two bar stools type stuff.

00:10:58.000 Me, Charlie, Candace, we were all out there on the road, driving the roads, University of Florida, oh miss, Arizona State, all over the country.

00:11:07.000 And to see what has happened, it's been a went, around 2019?

00:11:14.000 Well, she was still doing stuff with Charlie and Turning Point up to like 2024.

00:11:19.000 But there's a question of, so I will say this.

00:11:22.000 I've been tweeting quite a bit about Candace because I've got sources.

00:11:26.000 Much like she likes playing these games.

00:11:28.000 Obviously, the moment I did not, I was not the first to criticize her, but I was the most vulgar.

00:11:35.000 And I think people appreciated that.

00:11:36.000 Though I do think it's fair to say, maybe I went a little too far.

00:11:40.000 That's fine.

00:11:41.000 But I immediately started having people reach out to me.

00:11:44.000 And a few things I think are really important to point out that Candace is refusing to own up to. 0.99

00:11:49.000 And she called me gay, and she called me a bitch. 1.00

00:11:53.000 And why did she do that? 1.00

00:11:54.000 Because she knows I got the goods.

00:11:56.000 If she wanted to come out and say, this is not correct, here's why it's wrong, she could. 0.97

00:12:01.000 Instead, when I said Candace worked with some of the very same people she's accused, and this is undeniable, it's so stupid that she's trying to play this game because she worked at turning point. 0.93

00:12:13.000 She worked at turning point, so duh, she had the same security as Charlie. 0.97

00:12:17.000 And she's like, I never did.

00:12:18.000 I never used the same security.

00:12:19.000 It's an obvious lie.

00:12:20.000 I also know for a fact, because I've seen the texts, she was privately telling people she hated Charlie Kirk like two months before he was murdered.

00:12:28.000 So she can't answer to these things. 1.00

00:12:30.000 She's dodged these and just said, Tim Poole's gay, he's a bitch. 1.00

00:12:33.000 Because she knew the whole time she was lying. 1.00

00:12:37.000 This is a case of wielding the one ring.

00:12:40.000 I got to be honest.

00:12:41.000 It is so tempting to put that ring on, to slide it on your finger and get 300,000 concurrent viewers, to be looking at those YouTube numbers, $10 million a year.

00:12:50.000 You just want to put the ring on.

00:12:51.000 It is a gift to use against our enemies.

00:12:54.000 No, you cannot wield it.

00:12:55.000 No one can.

00:12:56.000 And she tried.

00:12:57.000 Money means nothing in the world.

00:12:59.000 You have to have integrity.

00:13:00.000 You have to have love.

00:13:02.000 You have to care about people.

00:13:03.000 I don't care what money.

00:13:05.000 I've had millions upon millions, lost it all as a poker player, gotten it back.

00:13:09.000 I know about money.

00:13:11.000 And I've felt the power of having money.

00:13:14.000 And let me tell you something.

00:13:15.000 I've said it before in poker.

00:13:18.000 Egos will break you. 1.00

00:13:18.000 Cards will make you stay humble. 1.00

00:13:20.000 And I say the same thing in politics.

00:13:21.000 Andrew Tate has one of the best points.

00:13:23.000 It's very relatable.

00:13:25.000 I'm not trying to humble brag or whatever.

00:13:27.000 Obviously, we do well here.

00:13:28.000 But Andrew Tate made a post a while ago where he was like, being rich is just, you wake up and try and find a better steak every day.

00:13:36.000 Like it gets to a point where you can do what you want to do.

00:13:39.000 And so you're just, when you're talking to your friends, like, let's try this steakhouse.

00:13:43.000 You're just literally trying to find a good restaurant now.

00:13:46.000 As long as society holds together, yeah.

00:13:47.000 That's true.

00:13:48.000 And so we're looking for some good steakhouses while we're out here in Vegas.

00:13:51.000 Because to be honest, the point is this.

00:13:53.000 Whatever it is that Candace was chasing, it's fleeting.

00:13:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:13:57.000 I said this.

00:13:59.000 You know, I go to Occupy Wall Street.

00:14:01.000 I do live streams.

00:14:02.000 Everybody's cheering me.

00:14:04.000 They're cheering for me.

00:14:04.000 They're praising me, saying, oh, Tim, you're so great.

00:14:06.000 And then the moment I call them out on their lies, because I'm calling everybody out, they say, Tim, changed.

00:14:12.000 And I'm like, no, I didn't.

00:14:13.000 And I was always calling people out for being liars.

00:14:17.000 It's going to happen. 0.76

00:14:18.000 Candace going off in this ridiculous direction, chasing after people who think that it's possible to clone humans in this way, or that Egyptian planes are flying, or whatever it is she was pursuing, it's the one ring.

00:14:30.000 Sooner or later, it fails you.

00:14:32.000 It turns on you.

00:14:33.000 And now she's in trouble.

00:14:35.000 What happens?

00:14:36.000 You know, I'll put it like this.

00:14:37.000 There are certainly some people who watch this show who are probably like, what happened to you, Tim?

00:14:41.000 You know, Candace is asking the real questions and you betrayed us.

00:14:44.000 And I'm like, yeah.

00:14:45.000 You always say the same thing to me every morning.

00:14:48.000 And you know what?

00:14:49.000 Maybe the shooting at our property was related to somebody who thought that we were getting the call or whatever it may be.

00:14:56.000 We've gotten threats for a long time, threats to shoot us up.

00:14:58.000 So it could be anything.

00:14:59.000 It just so happened the day after that.

00:15:02.000 Well, it was like a week or two after I'd been calling her out.

00:15:04.000 And then I really got angry that Monday.

00:15:07.000 My point is this.

00:15:08.000 It's one thing to be on the sidelines to be accused.

00:15:12.000 It's another thing to be standing in front of that entire mob where she got 300, I think she had like 350,000 concurrent viewers today. 1.00

00:15:20.000 All wondering the truth.

00:15:22.000 And she came out and basically said Erica Kirk was nice. 0.98

00:15:25.000 Tyler Robinson probably did it.

00:15:27.000 Israel probably didn't.

00:15:29.000 I got a call from their lawyers.

00:15:31.000 What happens then when they're all staring at you and you betray them?

00:15:35.000 That's going to come back to biter. 0.97

00:15:37.000 Well, go ahead.

00:15:38.000 No, the thing is, is I think it's going to come back to biter. 1.00

00:15:42.000 And hopefully, I pray that maybe it brings her back to sanity.

00:15:47.000 And maybe she doesn't get as many viewers as she loses all those crazy people, but maybe she gets real viewers back and actually puts out the truth somehow. 0.64

00:15:55.000 But I just I just think she's so like the ring.

00:15:59.000 You hit it right on those.

00:16:00.000 She's the power.

00:16:01.000 She's so addicted to it that she'll just say anything.

00:16:05.000 And I just, I loved her.

00:16:08.000 I mean, I watched her.

00:16:10.000 I just can't believe what I've witnessed.

00:16:12.000 When I said this a while ago, I went on her show when she was at the Daily Wire.

00:16:16.000 I called her a genius.

00:16:17.000 I was super impressed with how well-read she was, how quick-witted she was.

00:16:21.000 And that for her to go this direction, I said the whole time, she knows what she's doing.

00:16:24.000 Of course she does.

00:16:24.000 It's not an accident.

00:16:26.000 And I have to wonder, you know, I don't know if you guys have ever experienced something like this, but it's like, I guess you can call it like the lottery phenomenon.

00:16:34.000 A regular person, he's a plumber or whatever, he wins the $100 million, and then he blows all the money in a few months.

00:16:40.000 He buys a golden statue of himself because he didn't get to that point.

00:16:43.000 He didn't know how to manage all of that rush of power or whatever it is you get.

00:16:50.000 I think Candace leaving the Daily Wire, being unrestrained.

00:16:55.000 No one was there to tell her not to do something.

00:16:57.000 So when she's at the Daily Wire or she's at Turning Point, she maybe goes, I think Bridget McCone's a man.

00:17:03.000 And then someone goes, well, okay, but let's not go there.

00:17:06.000 And then she gets helped back because they won't do the show.

00:17:08.000 This actually happened with Daily Wire where I can't remember what it was.

00:17:11.000 She wanted something with Yay and the Daily Wire was like, we don't want to do that.

00:17:14.000 Then she tried doing the Bridget McCrone thing and they're like, no, we're taking that down because she did it and took it down. 0.99

00:17:20.000 She leaves and now she's unrestrained and she chases the dragon and there's no one holding her back.

00:17:26.000 And so she ran off the cliff.

00:17:27.000 Well, everybody needs those people in their life, right?

00:17:30.000 Like we're commentators, get it.

00:17:33.000 There are times I want to go off on things unhinged because it does.

00:17:37.000 It gets the most views, the most clicks, the most this, most that.

00:17:40.000 But you need people on your team.

00:17:41.000 You need people in your life that go, I hear what you're saying.

00:17:45.000 Have you thought about the lawsuits?

00:17:46.000 I hear what you're saying.

00:17:47.000 Have you thought about this?

00:17:49.000 Are we sure?

00:17:50.000 Do you want to put yourself in an actionable position? 0.92

00:17:53.000 Crazy, correct, correct. 0.53

00:17:55.000 For me, it's real easy.

00:17:56.000 I mean, whenever I start to say anything crazy, I get a call from Israel. 1.00

00:18:00.000 Yes.

00:18:00.000 And then they just tell me what not to say.

00:18:02.000 These checks aren't going to ride themselves.

00:18:04.000 We got work to do here, fellas, today.

00:18:05.000 So we got.

00:18:07.000 There are going to be people who take it.

00:18:08.000 That's going to get clipped and they're going to be like, Tim Pulletin.

00:18:10.000 It's Israel. 0.51

00:18:11.000 Just put it on there.

00:18:12.000 Every time something happens.

00:18:13.000 Can you imagine?

00:18:14.000 Every time something happens, it's the Jews. 1.00

00:18:17.000 Everybody's saying that the attack in Australia was actually the idea.

00:18:20.000 You need to understand, Mike, that it's a compliment.

00:18:23.000 They're talking about how smart the Jews are, how capable and hardworking and industrious they are.

00:18:27.000 That's really what I would always say to these people.

00:18:29.000 I'd be like, I don't understand why you think that there's this small population.

00:18:34.000 15 million of us in the whole world.

00:18:36.000 In the whole world.

00:18:36.000 And they are so smart, so hardworking and so capable, they've taken everything over and you can't stop them.

00:18:41.000 But that is a compliment.

00:18:42.000 But yet the people who hate them the most are the most famous people that you can find right now.

00:18:46.000 Yeah.

00:18:47.000 So that's the thing.

00:18:48.000 That's the question that I've been asking here lately is why, because this is what Candace says, right?

00:18:54.000 I'm just asking questions.

00:18:56.000 So I'm just asking a question.

00:18:58.000 How is it that we have, you know, you just said it, 350,000, but even before the Trump administration took over, she was killing it on YouTube, all this other stuff.

00:19:07.000 You faced mass censorship.

00:19:09.000 We all did.

00:19:10.000 Explain to me how YouTube in federal, in front of Congress admits that they were actively censoring and or deplatforming conservative voices and dissenting voices, but you have certain people and you can insert whoever person you think I'm talking about here besides just Candace.

00:19:30.000 Certain people explode.

00:19:32.000 Certain people grow.

00:19:33.000 Certain people are allowed to say what they want to say or allowed to do this on YouTube.

00:19:38.000 It makes me question those very people that claim that they're on the same side that we are.

00:19:43.000 I mean, I agree with you because like every time I talked about, because I wholeheartedly believe this 2020 election was stolen.

00:19:50.000 And every time I brought that up or I talked about the vaccine being very bad, boom, strike, strike.

00:19:56.000 You can't say that or we're taking your, one more strike and we're taking you down.

00:20:00.000 That's how bad it was with YouTube.

00:20:02.000 And then, and like what, like Tim just said, how is she able to just go out there and just the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, and no strikes.

00:20:09.000 But my favorite thing is she literally says in her show, if you criticize Israel, you get censored.

00:20:15.000 And I'm like, aren't you bragging about being number one, about having this massive census?

00:20:19.000 Where's the censorship?

00:20:20.000 You know what I do think, though?

00:20:23.000 I do think that it's not just the conspiracy audience.

00:20:26.000 I think she's getting a good international audience.

00:20:28.000 And you think about how many people around the world don't like Israel.

00:20:32.000 There's a lot of countries that don't like Israel.

00:20:34.000 They've always hated us.

00:20:35.000 So it's nothing new.

00:20:38.000 So I think about this shift.

00:20:39.000 You mentioned it.

00:20:40.000 Let me pull this tweet up, actually.

00:20:41.000 This is interesting.

00:20:42.000 We've got this post here from Mario Noffel from December 13th, Tucker.

00:20:46.000 Letting people talk a lot reveals who they are.

00:20:49.000 Well, it's not so much about what Tucker said, but the response here from Terrible Timmy, who says, Red-faced Tucker is a clone.

00:20:57.000 Same exact time they replaced Candace Owens with the cloned mouthpiece of the left we see everywhere.

00:21:02.000 Now she's either a clone or the worst mother I have ever seen. 0.99

00:21:05.000 No new mother instantly brings hate and judgment to the new family. 0.99

00:21:08.000 Now, the funny thing is, it sounds like this guy is actually critical of Candace and Tucker and still thinks they're clones.

00:21:14.000 Yeah.

00:21:14.000 But there's an interesting, as crazy as it is, there's a much easier explanation, but there's a reason why people think this.

00:21:22.000 Tucker seems to have flipped on a dime.

00:21:25.000 There's this viral video.

00:21:26.000 Makes no sense.

00:21:27.000 A montage of Tucker saying things like, I don't know who that guy is.

00:21:31.000 Who is he?

00:21:32.000 And then it shows another clip of him sitting down and interviewing the guy, Tommy Robinson being a great example of him like, who's Tommy?

00:21:36.000 I don't even know anything about him.

00:21:38.000 And then there's him interviewing Tommy Robinson saying, thank you for your work.

00:21:41.000 It's really talking about.

00:21:41.000 Two or three other people.

00:21:42.000 Exactly.

00:21:44.000 He doesn't forget.

00:21:44.000 He's smart.

00:21:45.000 He knows what he's doing.

00:21:46.000 There is an interesting question of what changed in these people's lives.

00:21:49.000 Now, I'll say this of Tucker.

00:21:50.000 He's allowed to have his opinions.

00:21:52.000 And I don't think he said anything that's outside the realm of reality.

00:21:56.000 It's just a different political worldview that he's adopted over the past couple of years.

00:22:01.000 And that's why I've defended his right to do his show.

00:22:03.000 He can say whatever he wants.

00:22:04.000 Candace, however, is off in Wally World saying, who knows what whack-alone stuff.

00:22:08.000 The question is, what made so many prominent conservatives just flip?

00:22:14.000 And flip to watching what Candace is saying. 0.86

00:22:17.000 It was the death of Charlie Kirk.

00:22:19.000 It wasn't what went mad, man.

00:22:20.000 Well, I thought the death of Charlie Kirk was after the first week, the whole world was on our side.

00:22:25.000 I'm like, this could be the greatest thing.

00:22:29.000 Nothing could be great.

00:22:30.000 Losing Charlie is like a nightmare, the worst thing ever.

00:22:32.000 But for the world, it felt like the world was coming together.

00:22:36.000 People were going to become more religious.

00:22:39.000 And we had it.

00:22:39.000 It was all coming together until Candace society got ruined for two weeks.

00:22:44.000 We had it for two weeks.

00:22:45.000 We had it for two weeks.

00:22:47.000 Charlie was keeping a lot of crazy people at bay.

00:22:50.000 Everybody that's in this business, it's in this industry, we all know it.

00:22:54.000 We all know it.

00:22:54.000 We're not supposed to say it.

00:22:56.000 Tim, I told you I was going to say it here on the show.

00:22:58.000 We're not supposed to say it.

00:22:59.000 We're not supposed to say that 99.7% of everybody that you listen to and that you watch, they're not those people when the cameras are off.

00:23:10.000 They're not supposed to say that.

00:23:11.000 So Charlie Kirk was keeping a lot of these people at bay.

00:23:14.000 And Charlie, love you to death, my brother.

00:23:16.000 Wish you were still here.

00:23:18.000 Charlie was keeping these people at bay because he knew that showing solidarity to the American people was good for the mission and for the base.

00:23:26.000 And then when Charlie died, here's the truth.

00:23:29.000 Millions and millions of dollars were left on the table from his show.

00:23:33.000 All these people saw opportunities to jump in and become the next people, take over these things.

00:23:39.000 So what do you do?

00:23:40.000 Do you go the easy route?

00:23:42.000 Or excuse me, do you go the hard route, which is this is a time we all need to unify?

00:23:46.000 To the CV behind turning.

00:23:48.000 But that's not what it sells.

00:23:49.000 That's not what goes.

00:23:51.000 With that being said, I do want to address this one super chat from a member.

00:23:55.000 This is hard to read this moment.

00:23:57.000 Sonny GL7.

00:23:58.000 He's been a member for 42 months.

00:23:59.000 I deeply respect that.

00:24:00.000 Thank you so much.

00:24:01.000 He said, no, Tim, you called her a C-word.

00:24:03.000 I know I said it on the show before, but I'll stop.

00:24:05.000 I won't frame it.

00:24:05.000 It's a good word to excuse.

00:24:08.000 You lost your mind attacking her.

00:24:09.000 Your opinion and position. of making it personal is lame. 0.57

00:24:12.000 I agree with her questioning.

00:24:13.000 I will say this.

00:24:17.000 Apparently on her show, she said she went a little too far in telling people to pull their donations from Turning Point USA.

00:24:23.000 And I'll respect it.

00:24:26.000 If she's going to pull things back, that is a respectable thing to do.

00:24:29.000 I think she chased after the views and the money and all of those things.

00:24:33.000 And I will admit to being in a heightened state of tension due to a shooting at my property of which, let me just say this before I get to the meat and potatoes.

00:24:43.000 She accused my brother of trying to kill me. 1.00

00:24:46.000 That being said, I do apologize for calling her a degenerate cunt. 1.00

00:24:50.000 That is unbecoming of a gentleman. 0.99

00:24:52.000 Whether or not I am mad with Candace Owens and she has said disparaging things of me, it was unbecoming.

00:24:58.000 And I accept that and I do apologize.

00:25:02.000 If we are going to have a more articulate and better reasoned world, I should not be getting heated like that and losing it.

00:25:08.000 That being said, I think it's fair to point out that after dealing with this shooting on my property, very agitated, and it was compounded by Candace received the brunt of my ire when she said, quote, the shooting that Tim Poole survived in December of 2022 was committed by his brother, and it resulted in a bunch of people posting my brother's photo, claiming my brother broke into my house and was getting shot up by security.

00:25:32.000 None of which was true, never happened.

00:25:35.000 The real story was that we had a burglary at one of our other properties, and a staff member fired at one of the guys who broke in, and they fled.

00:25:42.000 So I was very angry, but I am willing to admit that I was wrong, and I should have kept my cool.

00:25:48.000 Again, we are talking about the need for unity.

00:25:51.000 We are talking about how we need to bring things back to a world that Charlie was working towards.

00:25:56.000 And I think I'm fairly certain that if I had an outburst like that and Charlie were around, he'd have called me and said, Tim, you need to calm down.

00:26:03.000 You need to say you're sorry.

00:26:04.000 So I will tell you what I'm saying.

00:26:05.000 If he had a way to get it, he would have been back together before these midterms.

00:26:09.000 He would have shut Candace down, too.

00:26:11.000 We've got to get that momentum.

00:26:12.000 We've got to get connected.

00:26:13.000 We've got to get unified and the momentum and get it back together.

00:26:16.000 Because right now, the fracture's so bad, and they're just, they're hitting us every which way.

00:26:21.000 There's time to.

00:26:22.000 And then Trump's putting out the most insane tweets.

00:26:26.000 He's going live, by the way.

00:26:28.000 We might want to, it's 6 p.m.

00:26:29.000 It's what is it, 9 p.m. Eastern?

00:26:30.000 I think it's easy to talk about Venezuela, right?

00:26:32.000 Probably.

00:26:33.000 But we knew this.

00:26:34.000 Or how great the economy is.

00:26:35.000 You knew what he put out about Venezuela.

00:26:36.000 You knew it was all about the oil, right?

00:26:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:39.000 A blind person knows that. 0.87

00:26:40.000 Like, I've been trying to say, if you want, if you really, and I'm a big Trump supporter, if you really want to get the drugs out of the country, you'd be bombing the cartels in Mexico.

00:26:49.000 And they wouldn't do anything about it.

00:26:50.000 But you saw what the president said, who was hand-picked because they killed 20 other people when she was running.

00:26:54.000 She says, no, no, no, no American troops could come because they know, right?

00:26:58.000 They know.

00:26:59.000 So listen, if you want to say it's about drugs, Donald Trump, go get the cartels and I'll be right behind you.

00:27:05.000 I'm hoping, I don't, you know, I respect Tucker.

00:27:10.000 I like Tucker a lot.

00:27:10.000 I've been a big fan of his for a long time.

00:27:12.000 I don't I do think it's fair to point out, agreed, that he's his political views have changed quite a bit.

00:27:18.000 And I do think it's fair to point out that there's this viral video where he's acting like several people he's actually met and interviewed, he doesn't know.

00:27:25.000 Now, I don't understand that.

00:27:27.000 I don't think he's afraid to talk about those things.

00:27:29.000 I'm sure he'd answer if someone asked him about it.

00:27:32.000 I'm just wondering why so many people seem to have changed their opinion and gone in this direction.

00:27:36.000 My personal view is not that Cutter is handing out checks.

00:27:41.000 It's always the simple answer to be like, you are paid.

00:27:43.000 No, I think it's real easy.

00:27:45.000 I think somebody logged onto their show, said something like, maybe it's a genocide.

00:27:50.000 Boom, they gained 10,000 new subscribers.

00:27:52.000 And they went, ooh, I get a lot of subscribers for this.

00:27:55.000 And also the TikTok, the whole thing.

00:27:56.000 Because that's what sells.

00:27:57.000 Genocide, genocide, genocide.

00:27:58.000 That's what sells.

00:27:59.000 When I talk bad about Candace Owens and things like that, or I challenge Candace, right?

00:28:04.000 Don't talk bad, right?

00:28:05.000 Even though she deserves it.

00:28:06.000 But you use the same logic.

00:28:08.000 Don't you think it's weird that Candace did this?

00:28:10.000 Don't you think the way she said it, don't you think that's weird?

00:28:14.000 Tucker, same way.

00:28:15.000 Don't you think all this and that?

00:28:17.000 We lose.

00:28:18.000 We lose money.

00:28:19.000 We lose subscribers.

00:28:20.000 We lose money.

00:28:21.000 The only people that are making money more money than they were last year right now are the people that are all in on the Jews did it. 0.99

00:28:29.000 Trump, Trump's bought by Netanyahu.

00:28:32.000 The thing is, the thing that's really important here is you could hate Bibi Netanyahu.

00:28:37.000 You could hate the Israelit government.

00:28:39.000 Yeah.

00:28:39.000 Okay.

00:28:40.000 Listen, I like Bibi Netanyahu, but there's a lot of things I don't like that he does.

00:28:43.000 But there's a big difference between Israel and Netanyahu and the Jews. 0.87

00:28:48.000 You can't just say the Jews, okay? 0.96

00:28:50.000 There's the liberal Jews that run everything that make us look, all the real Jews look bad. 1.00

00:28:57.000 I hate to say, but this is a fact. 0.93

00:28:58.000 The people that run the medias, and they're all liberal Jews.

00:29:02.000 They've never even been to Israel.

00:29:03.000 They probably don't even, they don't even know what the Sabbath is.

00:29:05.000 They just say, I'm Jewish.

00:29:06.000 My last name's Greenstein.

00:29:08.000 I got an idea.

00:29:09.000 We should play a heads-up game, 10K buy-in.

00:29:11.000 And when you win, I can title the video, Jew Takes All My Money. 1.00

00:29:15.000 Yeah.

00:29:16.000 Sounds good.

00:29:16.000 I love it.

00:29:17.000 People will be like, oh, they'll click it.

00:29:18.000 And then it's just a poker game.

00:29:19.000 I mean, it's just, it's what it is.

00:29:21.000 Like, I wish Candace and Tucker would go to Israel, see the sites, see, don't believe how it's running.

00:29:28.000 Oh, oh, like Candace says, oh, only the Muslims could be in this corner. 0.80

00:29:32.000 Oh, only the Jews. 1.00

00:29:33.000 That's not true. 0.98

00:29:34.000 It's all like, it's all made up lies.

00:29:37.000 We have to define, though, Tim, to your point, and bravo, bravo to you, good sir, on your apology.

00:29:45.000 We have to define when we talk about, okay, it's time for us to unify to try to preserve this country for as long as possible.

00:29:51.000 Well, what are we talking about when we actually say that?

00:29:53.000 Who are we trying to unify?

00:29:56.000 Who are we trying to unify with?

00:29:57.000 Can you actually unify with people that truly believe that three months ago they started building a clone of Candace Owens to replace her on the day?

00:30:07.000 Can you really unify with the people that the only reason Candace Owens made a video last night was because there were a lot of people that made thousands and thousands of dollars all over TikTok, Instagram, everything, making videos concerned that Erica Kirk had murdered Candace during their meeting.

00:30:26.000 How do you unify with people that like this?

00:30:29.000 Oh, she's done this to these people.

00:30:31.000 Yes.

00:30:31.000 That's the problem.

00:30:32.000 But I'm going to tell you how we unify.

00:30:34.000 Okay.

00:30:34.000 So what did we have over the left up until Charlie's murder that they didn't have?

00:30:40.000 We didn't exclude people the way that they do.

00:30:42.000 And we were always the media, or we were always the people that told the truth, right?

00:30:46.000 We didn't make a, if we saw something that was wrong and we said we had commented on it, we'd apologize and say, you know what?

00:30:54.000 I read this.

00:30:55.000 I was wrong.

00:30:55.000 It didn't come out.

00:30:56.000 And the mainstream media was just lying fools. 0.98

00:31:00.000 And we just, we won the election because we exposed the media for what they are. 0.97

00:31:05.000 Now, what are they going to do to us?

00:31:06.000 Expose us for, because you got Candace has lost her mind and Tucker. 0.99

00:31:11.000 And then I don't know.

00:31:12.000 Like, even when Ben Shapiro had the interview with Megan Kelly, Megan's like, what?

00:31:18.000 Candace is saying that?

00:31:19.000 What?

00:31:20.000 Come on, Megan. 0.99

00:31:21.000 You know what's being said.

00:31:22.000 You're not saying that.

00:31:23.000 Megan knows exactly.

00:31:24.000 And I love Megan Kelly.

00:31:25.000 I do too, because she knows.

00:31:26.000 She knows she wanted to separate herself from them, but she didn't.

00:31:31.000 I feel the same way.

00:31:32.000 And this also breaks my heart in that Megan Kelly acting like she didn't know what Candace was saying. 0.93

00:31:38.000 It was just because I think, look, there are a lot of people that were very critical of Candace well before I lost my mind over her and things she was saying on her show.

00:31:48.000 And so they deserve a lot more credit than I.

00:31:50.000 I mean, I think Crowder was one of the first, if not the first.

00:31:52.000 He called her a naughty word over the things she was saying.

00:31:56.000 And then he even put out this video from the Daily Wire.

00:31:58.000 He was like, I'm not here to take sides.

00:31:59.000 Like, this is news.

00:32:00.000 But I suppose it's heartbreaking when people are so scared because her audience is so massive.

00:32:10.000 They fear what will happen to you.

00:32:12.000 Megan doesn't want to come out and say, you're right.

00:32:15.000 Candace shouldn't be saying these things because she knows there's an overlap between her audience and Candace's audience.

00:32:20.000 And Candace is going to win that fight. 1.00

00:32:21.000 But here's where we talk about the truth, right?

00:32:23.000 We won the election because we told the truth.

00:32:25.000 If we sit there and are afraid to tell the truth about what's really going on, then we end up like them.

00:32:31.000 And then now their media becomes, well, look, why are you calling our media corrupt?

00:32:36.000 Look what you guys are saying.

00:32:37.000 You see what I'm trying to say?

00:32:39.000 That's why we need to unite.

00:32:41.000 Well, there was probably three or four true, solid things that had to happen for us to win the election in November of 2020.

00:32:50.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:32:50.000 I mean, yes, we had to put their crazy on blast and we had to put the truth in the city.

00:32:55.000 And Trump had to turn his head for a split second.

00:32:58.000 Yeah.

00:32:58.000 An act of God happened in front of us live in Butler.

00:33:01.000 Okay.

00:33:02.000 We also had Charlie Kirk and we had Turning Point USA.

00:33:07.000 And honestly, then the other part was we had people who had either been known left or center left that it had finally gotten bad enough.

00:33:17.000 Well, when they went after Trump to try to bankrupt them, put him in jail for life.

00:33:21.000 And everybody, like when we talk about how crazy Candace has gone, like everybody knew that it was all political, that the Biden DOJ was trying to put him in jail for life so he doesn't get power.

00:33:31.000 So and everybody, and so we were able to prove it basically with our voices that what the left was doing.

00:33:37.000 And now when you have this craziness back and forth, that's why we're fractured and that's why we have to get back together.

00:33:43.000 Let's start here.

00:33:44.000 I want to ask you a question, Graham.

00:33:46.000 Okay.

00:33:46.000 Do you want to quit political commentary and get out of this space?

00:33:49.000 I mean to put you on the spot because I've already talked about it, how the violence is getting extreme.

00:33:58.000 We just had a shooting at my property.

00:34:00.000 Yep.

00:34:01.000 And it's particularly terrifying, especially I just had a kid.

00:34:05.000 And so the questions we're handling now, I appreciate it.

00:34:08.000 However, when we get these death threats after Charlie is killed, people are posting Tim Poole.

00:34:12.000 They're posting not just me, but like the ones my secret team is seeing.

00:34:15.000 We get emails threatening to come shoot the place up.

00:34:17.000 And then sure enough, it happens.

00:34:19.000 There are a lot of people behind the scenes that are basically saying it might be getting much too hot right now.

00:34:24.000 I'm curious where you're at in this point.

00:34:26.000 Well, we actually did a show about your show basically, you know, affirming everything that you were saying because we get the same things on our side as well.

00:34:40.000 Oh, that's a tough one to go.

00:34:41.000 All right.

00:34:42.000 I'm going to give the real answer here.

00:34:44.000 If I didn't get into this thinking, when I was in the Army for 12 years, I went into that thinking, okay, I'm putting myself in harm's way.

00:34:54.000 Never did I think that my family could suffer from it.

00:34:58.000 When I started running my mouth about things that I saw that were wrong about everything, never did I imagine that, I mean, here's the real truth right now.

00:35:06.000 If I look directly into the camera, like my kids can't go to normal schools, like to, for the rest of their lives, like they cannot go to normal schools.

00:35:16.000 We have to hide, just like you, we have to hide where our location is at.

00:35:21.000 We're in unmarked buildings, all this other kind of stuff. 0.98

00:35:25.000 Wishes of sodomy and rape on my daughters and things like this. 1.00

00:35:28.000 Like, I mean, like, and then, and then when I question Candace, they know that they can't bother me. 0.99

00:35:35.000 So then my wife starts getting all the phone calls. 0.94

00:35:38.000 She starts getting all the DMs.

00:35:39.000 She starts getting all everything, trying to come after me through them.

00:35:44.000 Do I want to quit?

00:35:47.000 It does bother me on a level of what we talked about earlier, where so many of these people that are behind the mic, they are fake.

00:35:56.000 And I know a lot of people will probably say, well, Graham, you're fake. 0.99

00:35:59.000 You're the biggest grifter. 0.97

00:36:01.000 I'll put my bank account against anybody else's bank account, and we'll see who's actually taking money from who when it's all said and done. 0.98

00:36:09.000 But it is that part where people are disingenuous.

00:36:14.000 They're not real in their faith and their beliefs.

00:36:18.000 And then, yeah, the real life problems that we're facing to where, yeah, people want to kill us simply for questioning Candace Owens.

00:36:27.000 So the very people that are saying that we have changed and we've turned our back, you, me, and so many others have been taking arrows for making a stand that wasn't popular for so long.

00:36:39.000 We didn't change.

00:36:41.000 We're certainly not doing it for views.

00:36:42.000 No, we're losing it by doing this.

00:36:45.000 We're doing it because we believe it to be true.

00:36:48.000 The people that are supporting the likes of Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, they changed.

00:36:52.000 They changed.

00:36:53.000 I'll tell you where I'm at.

00:36:54.000 I mentioned this before.

00:36:55.000 Probably what you're commenting on is that we've got prominent conservatives that are caught taking money for these ridiculous campaigns, advocating SNAP benefits to buy soda.

00:37:05.000 In what world is that a moral thing to advocate for?

00:37:07.000 Ah, but they got paid.

00:37:08.000 Advocating for foreign countries.

00:37:11.000 We are sitting here talking about what this country needs, and now you got these people taking money to promote India's trade benefits or whatever Trump's negotiating.

00:37:20.000 You've got that.

00:37:21.000 Then you've got the Candace Owens phenomenon and people like her. 1.00

00:37:24.000 And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, I get these death threats, and we've gotten them for a long time.

00:37:29.000 And we were swatted 15 times starting in 2022.

00:37:32.000 It was January, I think it was January 6th or 7th of 2022 was the first swatting.

00:37:37.000 It was rector Marjorie Taylor Greene came on.

00:37:40.000 Another one lost her mind. 0.57

00:37:42.000 Well, my view is with all of the threats of violence, but also this disingenuous grifterdom, what are we going to call it, I'm sitting here asking myself, to what end do we stand strong?

00:37:55.000 And so I will answer the question as well.

00:37:57.000 I actually do not want to quit.

00:37:59.000 I love doing this every single night.

00:38:02.000 I am driven to point the finger and be like, the media is lying right there.

00:38:06.000 Here's how and why.

00:38:07.000 But it becomes an increasing challenge when there is less and less of a desire for truth or a desire for entertainment and outrage and outrage.

00:38:17.000 And so what I would say is we were talking before the show about solutions to the security issues that we're facing.

00:38:24.000 And I think we've got an amazing opportunity in front of us that I believe will happen, but we'll see.

00:38:29.000 And I'll just put it simply, like we're working with Rumble.

00:38:32.000 And I think Rumble is very serious about taking this, turning these detriments, these net negatives into net positives.

00:38:40.000 How do we solve the security problem and also make better content and do better jobs?

00:38:44.000 I think Rumble's going to make that happen.

00:38:46.000 You know, as a professional poker player, okay, what makes me so good?

00:38:50.000 And I don't study.

00:38:52.000 I don't study GTO.

00:38:54.000 Luck.

00:38:54.000 No.

00:38:55.000 I read people.

00:38:57.000 I could look at you, look at you.

00:38:58.000 I could tell if you're telling the truth or if you're a grifter or you're just, I could know who honest people are.

00:39:05.000 Every time Trump speaks, I know when he's telling the truth and when he's lying.

00:39:08.000 Okay.

00:39:09.000 And listen, I don't want to keep saying bad things about Candace or Tucker, but watching people who I loved turn into something that's, that I just feel is so when you watch Candace, you just know it's ingenuous.

00:39:25.000 It's just, it's not genuine.

00:39:27.000 It's demoralizing.

00:39:28.000 And so I see it and I read these people and I ask myself, like, come on, Tucker's very, very wealthy.

00:39:35.000 He's been in the for forever.

00:39:38.000 He's one of the smartest people in the world.

00:39:40.000 You could call out the Israeli government if you don't like it, but when he keeps saying the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, and then he says, well, I'm not anti-Semitic.

00:39:48.000 Well, when you say the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, you are anti-Semitic.

00:39:52.000 It's demoralizing.

00:39:54.000 And so, you know, one of the things that I'm doing is I launched a new channel.

00:39:58.000 YouTube gave me At Tim Poole finally after, what, 15 years or whatever?

00:40:03.000 And so I put up a vlog today of it was me and Brandon hanging out at the DeGen lounge for WPT.

00:40:08.000 And it's fun.

00:40:11.000 I want to have fun again.

00:40:13.000 I don't want to be so stressed out all the time with the concept of the world.

00:40:15.000 That's a good point.

00:40:15.000 Have fun.

00:40:16.000 Yeah.

00:40:17.000 But it's also, it's just not political confidence.

00:40:18.000 It's not fun.

00:40:19.000 You can't make it miserable.

00:40:20.000 Yeah, I think the reality, there are people, I would say this of Candace.

00:40:25.000 She loves being rich.

00:40:27.000 Yes.

00:40:27.000 She loves getting attention.

00:40:28.000 She loves being wealthy.

00:40:29.000 She married a very wealthy man, and she's doing everything she can to get those numbers up.

00:40:34.000 Man, I denied all of them from the Macron lawsuit.

00:40:38.000 I had people saying to me, like, why are you bitching about these threats to your family, Tim?

00:40:43.000 You're rich.

00:40:44.000 And I'm like, I would rather just make a humble salary and not have my family threatened.

00:40:49.000 I don't need much.

00:40:51.000 I talk about living in a van down by the river all the time.

00:40:54.000 I told my wife, I said, you know what we'll do?

00:40:56.000 If it all goes tits up, we'll get like a 500 square foot little shack in the middle of nowhere by a river.

00:41:02.000 Elon lives in an apartment probably the size of this room.

00:41:05.000 I'm going to generate electricity with a water wheel to power our house, and we'll be 500 miles away from civilization.

00:41:11.000 And she was like, she sighs because she wants it to be true, but she knows we're never actually going to move to the middle of nowhere.

00:41:17.000 We're going to keep staying in the fight.

00:41:19.000 Yeah, I put it like this.

00:41:20.000 You know, I, you know, a very religious guy, so I've prayed about it a lot.

00:41:24.000 Like, Lord, if it's time for me to put the microphone away, I'll do it.

00:41:29.000 But people keep showing up.

00:41:31.000 They keep showing up every day.

00:41:32.000 And so as long as they keep showing up and there's a fight to be had.

00:41:36.000 Here's the thing that I think you're saying, if I can stand up for a couple people real quick, stand up for people like Dan, Dan Bongino for a minute.

00:41:42.000 Yeah.

00:41:42.000 You know, not even a year ago, not even a year ago, people were begging people like me, people like Dan, and other people.

00:41:50.000 I don't want to out them because a lot of people have anonymous profiles that went to the administration.

00:41:56.000 And we did it.

00:41:57.000 You know, for those of you who don't know, we had to stop all money making.

00:42:01.000 You can't do that.

00:42:01.000 Like, you know, and when your business is you talking, it's not like you can just name a CEO to take it over and all this stuff.

00:42:09.000 We did it and we went in there.

00:42:11.000 And now I'm a Fed.

00:42:13.000 I'm a Fed.

00:42:14.000 I'm bought and paid for.

00:42:15.000 I was a Fed before.

00:42:16.000 I was in the Army for 12 years before I even did this.

00:42:20.000 So there, I'm a Fed.

00:42:21.000 But then you got Dan Bongino, who before Candace and her thing, he was getting 200,000 concurrence every day.

00:42:29.000 Every day.

00:42:30.000 And he gave it all up to go try, to try to make a difference.

00:42:34.000 Now, you can say whatever you want.

00:42:36.000 Yes, the FBI was corrupted.

00:42:38.000 Yes, it was a mess.

00:42:40.000 And it was probably set up to fail from the beginning.

00:42:43.000 But Dan Bongino is a patriot.

00:42:45.000 And I've seen the reports from Fox News that he's thinking about his future and all this other stuff.

00:42:51.000 When he comes back, I think we need a Dan Bongino to come back.

00:42:55.000 I think people are saying, oh, Dan Bongino got in and he got corrupted.

00:42:58.000 I don't believe we're a second.

00:42:59.000 I think Dan is fighting the good fight, still trying his hardest.

00:43:01.000 Absolutely.

00:43:02.000 I'm 100%.

00:43:03.000 But here's the thing is, what is your opinion on this?

00:43:06.000 Because the DOJ is supposed to be separate from the administration.

00:43:10.000 The FBI is supposed to be separate from the administration.

00:43:12.000 And every time, and I met Kaosh Patel, I think he's a really nice guy.

00:43:17.000 I think he's doing the good fight.

00:43:19.000 But it's always like, we got to trump Trump's agenda.

00:43:24.000 The DOJ, Pam Bonnie, brings up, well, they're blocking us from Trump's agenda.

00:43:30.000 They supposed to be saying that.

00:43:31.000 Aren't they supposed to be neutral to DOJ and the FBI?

00:43:35.000 And they come out like all about Trump's agenda, which I like that, but what's going to happen when they get the power?

00:43:42.000 Is it all going to be about Gavin Newsom? 0.99

00:43:45.000 God, please, rest the soul, don't let fucking Gavin Newsome in there. 0.99

00:43:49.000 But I'm just trying to say it. 0.99

00:43:50.000 Do you understand what I'm trying to say about keeping it separate?

00:43:54.000 If we don't stay in this fight and redouble our efforts, we're going to get President Newsome.

00:43:57.000 Oh.

00:43:59.000 I'll tell you what, I would rather have the crazy Kamala than I would Gavin Kamala. 1.00

00:44:04.000 Gavin Newsom is the most evil person in the world. 0.82

00:44:08.000 The only reason to prefer Kamala to Gavin Newsom is because it was in the hope that a Kamala Harris administration would be less coherent. 1.00

00:44:17.000 Yeah, less coherent.

00:44:18.000 Well, less coherent, but also less.

00:44:20.000 They wouldn't be able to get things done as well as Gavin Newsome.

00:44:24.000 You're right, Mike.

00:44:25.000 It is supposed to be neutral, but in the real world, like, things are so – We know Merrick Garland was working for Biden.

00:44:33.000 But when the president's agenda is what's best for the country, like truly, like, hey, finding all of these people, prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the laws, you know, hey, when international crimes are committed or high.

00:44:45.000 This is another thing that's making us look bad.

00:44:46.000 Like the cops being cops, allowing them to do what they're supposed to do.

00:44:50.000 There's been no arrest.

00:44:51.000 There's been no, they just talk, right? 1.00

00:44:55.000 And it makes us look like idiots, right? 0.99

00:44:56.000 Yeah, well, I've never been a Pam Bondi fan. 0.99

00:44:59.000 I never was going in.

00:45:01.000 I'm not now.

00:45:02.000 I never liked the Pam Bondi pick.

00:45:05.000 I never, really loved it.

00:45:06.000 I think everyone agrees that Pam Bondi in her first two weeks with that whole Epstein binder stuff, I mean, everyone, everyone agrees that that was the most massive, massive PR mistake that could have ever happened.

00:45:21.000 Ever.

00:45:23.000 And honestly, there's a lot of innocent creators or influencers or pundits, however you want to call them, that got caught in a situation they didn't even realize they were getting caught into during that.

00:45:35.000 They were there to meet a lot of the cabinet-level officials.

00:45:39.000 Pam Bondi walks in kind of last minute, throws them all these binders, and then they go walk outside where they think the press aren't supposed to be. 0.94

00:45:47.000 But then the press aren't there.

00:45:48.000 There were a lot of people there that got caught in a situation where they were.

00:45:52.000 One of the things about the Epstein thing, right, is I know for 1 million percent sure that Trump had nothing to do with Epstein.

00:45:58.000 He blocked him out in 2003.

00:46:01.000 If they had anything on Trump with Epstein, they wouldn't have bankrupted him, tried to put him in jail for life, did all the things they put up.

00:46:08.000 They have nothing to do, okay?

00:46:09.000 But when Trump says a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt, and then they get mad, well, who cares about innocent people getting hurt? 0.78

00:46:16.000 They're pedophiles, right?

00:46:18.000 But you got to remember, like, people like Prince Andrews, the royals, people that put Mohammed bin Salman, like very powerful people, like these are people that give the United States billions and billions of dollars. 0.80

00:46:31.000 And if they see their name on there one time on a plate, you see what I'm saying?

00:46:35.000 And that's what he's trying to block.

00:46:37.000 Let me pull up this story.

00:46:38.000 We got this from Fox News.

00:46:39.000 Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino to decide about Future Bureau in coming weeks.

00:46:43.000 Sources say, so they're not going so far, this article say that he is quitting.

00:46:47.000 And they've been floating this story a lot.

00:46:50.000 It's been denied every single time.

00:46:52.000 I think cash comes out.

00:46:53.000 He's like, this is not true.

00:46:54.000 Dan's not going anywhere.

00:46:56.000 However, I'm curious, do you guys think this is like a psyop?

00:47:01.000 Like the media just keeps lying it to put pressure on Dan?

00:47:03.000 Or is the reality that Dan actually is considering quitting the FBI?

00:47:08.000 I think if he was actually considering leaving, I think that you would hear something.

00:47:13.000 I would think you'd hear something from someone other than the media.

00:47:18.000 You hear more rumblings on X or whatever, but I don't think that the media has any kind of legitimacy.

00:47:26.000 Like a source close to somebody that saw Dan's complaint that he was getting exhausted at the job says that he's thinking it was like, man, this is getting, I don't know if I can keep doing this.

00:47:35.000 I mean, I'm sure he said stuff like that.

00:47:36.000 The thing is, they don't say the sources.

00:47:37.000 And even though the Trump administration is a better administration than we've had in the past, there are plenty of people in Washington, D.C. that don't like this administration and love to leak bad information to the media.

00:47:53.000 If he does leave, my rumble stock will go straight up.

00:47:56.000 Yeah.

00:47:58.000 If I can try to attempt to put my mind in the mind of Dan Bongino, I would say this.

00:48:05.000 I think that there's no way he's not seeing this fracture that is happening.

00:48:11.000 I think that Dan's a genius at what he does.

00:48:14.000 I think he knows that we are headed for a massive bloodbath in the midterms right now.

00:48:19.000 If I'm bringing Bongino.

00:48:23.000 It's going to take a miracle to fix it, if we're being honest.

00:48:26.000 But a Dan Bongino coming back could be one of those miracles of probably six miracles we need to happen.

00:48:34.000 So if I'm Dan Bongino, I'm weighing where does Dan Bongino actually help the country the most now in this moment of time?

00:48:43.000 Because I think in March he comes up on a year that he's been there.

00:48:47.000 And so I think, Dan, I think we do need Dan.

00:48:51.000 Did you guys realize it was only two months ago that the world was praising Trump?

00:48:55.000 We had the peace deal.

00:48:56.000 The hostages were released.

00:48:58.000 There's everything where you're on top of the world.

00:49:00.000 There's two things that are going to make the real difference in the midterms.

00:49:05.000 That's where the economy is and the situation with the health care subsidies that are ending.

00:49:11.000 When people see their health care prices go through the roof, they're going to look at the Republicans and say, you've had power.

00:49:17.000 You swore you were going to repeal and replace Obamacare.

00:49:20.000 You haven't.

00:49:21.000 And then not only have you not done what you said then, you went and you let my payments triple or quadruple.

00:49:28.000 They're not going to vote for Republicans if they don't do something about this.

00:49:32.000 And I'm not saying that the ACA is good.

00:49:34.000 I'm not saying that I like it.

00:49:36.000 But if they let these prices go up the way that they're going to, people are going to look at the Republicans and say, like I said, you didn't repeal it, like you said, and then you let my premiums triple, you're out.

00:49:48.000 Well, we also.

00:49:48.000 I'd like to say real quick.

00:49:50.000 Dan Bongino coming back to a podcast, his first day, it'll be the biggest.

00:49:54.000 It'll be the biggest thing ever.

00:49:56.000 He's going to have 500 to a million people watching that moment.

00:49:58.000 When he comes out and he says, here's what happened when I was at the FBI and why I'm not there anymore.

00:50:04.000 Yeah, breaking my silence.

00:50:06.000 I think we also have to take some responsibility.

00:50:08.000 Tim, I don't want to speak for you here, but I know me.

00:50:11.000 I know me, and I've had this conversation at the White House.

00:50:15.000 People that do what we do, we have to take a little bit, no, not a little bit, a whole lot of responsibility for the fact we sold the American people that if we win this election, everything's going to be fixed.

00:50:30.000 And we didn't do a good job because we have to remember 99.

00:50:33.000 Not even a year yet.

00:50:34.000 99% of Americans don't pay attention to this stuff like we do.

00:50:38.000 They don't know how it works like we do.

00:50:41.000 And I do.

00:50:42.000 I think a majority of Americans really, really, really, really believed that within 90 days, like the whole world was going to be fixed.

00:50:50.000 And so now we have a three-headed monster facing us in the midterms right now.

00:50:55.000 One, we've got former allies or former people that are trying to burn it all down.

00:51:01.000 You can insert who you want to in that statement.

00:51:04.000 Two, we've got to turn.

00:51:05.000 You saw it in Nashville the other day.

00:51:07.000 We've got R plus 22 districts that are really Trump plus 22 districts, and we've got to do our best to turn them from Trump plus 22 to R plus 10s, maybe.

00:51:19.000 And then we have a messaging issue where we've got to show the American people, hey, I know it's not feeling better yet.

00:51:27.000 Yeah, gas prices, or excuse me, egg prices were $2 when Trump's first administration, but then they went to nine.

00:51:33.000 Now they're $6.50.

00:51:35.000 It is starting to work, but it's going to take some time.

00:51:38.000 Oil prices, I mean, he's got it way down.

00:51:40.000 What, $50?

00:51:41.000 Yes.

00:51:41.000 And then last but not least, we don't have Charlie Kirk anymore.

00:51:45.000 And that is a major hurdle.

00:51:46.000 And that's not me talking bad about the turning point or anything like that.

00:51:49.000 We need somebody.

00:51:50.000 You're trying to tell me that.

00:51:51.000 Charlie's not here that care about our movement.

00:51:54.000 There's not one person that could get in.

00:51:56.000 There'll never be another Charlie.

00:51:57.000 Yeah, that would be a death sentence.

00:51:59.000 But there has to be somebody.

00:52:00.000 There's one person that's going to be there.

00:52:00.000 But there has to be one or two.

00:52:02.000 Look what they're doing to Erica. 0.91

00:52:03.000 When they said, when Erica said, I'm the CEO of Turning Point now, I expected her to grieve for a month and her to get on the, be on that podcast, pushing everything.

00:52:12.000 That's what I was expecting.

00:52:13.000 I think they'd crucify her if she had done that. 1.00

00:52:16.000 And I agree.

00:52:17.000 I think she, I don't think.

00:52:19.000 I don't think Erica could win no matter what she did. 0.99

00:52:22.000 Correct.

00:52:22.000 She's not Charlie.

00:52:23.000 She's not Charlie.

00:52:24.000 No one's ever going to be Charlie.

00:52:26.000 Blake is not Charlie and Andrew's not Charlie and Jack is not Charlie.

00:52:30.000 And Jack is fantastic.

00:52:31.000 Yeah.

00:52:31.000 But Charlie, man, that guy hit the nail on the head with the hammer.

00:52:35.000 I mean, he had a bra.

00:52:36.000 I've never seen somebody so smart.

00:52:38.000 He knew exactly.

00:52:39.000 He would take in every liberal's question, think it through his head real quick.

00:52:43.000 And I've never seen anybody that knew the answers.

00:52:46.000 Like he would quote every part of scriptures, a part of the Bible, everything.

00:52:51.000 And he knew it all.

00:52:52.000 Like how it's amazing.

00:52:54.000 He was really a smart guy.

00:52:55.000 But more importantly, his diplomacy.

00:53:00.000 You know, this is a question that we've asked just today, but people have been asking since he was assassinated.

00:53:05.000 Was he holding the right together?

00:53:07.000 I think the text messages that we saw where he was saying things like, I may leave the pro-Israel, they're forcing me to leave the pro-Israel cause.

00:53:15.000 This is an example of being diplomatic.

00:53:18.000 There were messages where he was critical of Ben Shapiro.

00:53:21.000 If you've got two people that are fighting and you're the intermediary, you don't go to them, one person, and say, you're wrong about the other guy.

00:53:28.000 Stop yelling at him.

00:53:29.000 You go to them and say, I totally get what you're saying about the other guy.

00:53:32.000 Let's just try and keep the peace.

00:53:34.000 And so he kept everybody within that sphere by being nice to them, by respecting them.

00:53:40.000 And now that he's gone, there's no one holding back the infighting, the vitriol.

00:53:44.000 No, I agree. 0.79

00:53:46.000 The moment they killed him all, this started going nuts.

00:53:49.000 And I thought it was going to do opposite for us because the first two weeks, the whole world was on our side.

00:53:56.000 We just talked a moment ago about quitting, about disappearing, doing other content.

00:54:02.000 And I've mentioned this before.

00:54:03.000 It's an open secret.

00:54:04.000 There are many prominent individuals in the political space, some even liberal, who are basically bowing out or have already moved to undisclosed locations.

00:54:12.000 And I always tell people, look for whose set has changed, even subtly, because people are getting really worried about this.

00:54:18.000 Charlie Kirk's assassination was a slam dunk for his killers.

00:54:23.000 There has been no negative repercussion for, if we're going to go on the official narrative that it is this Tyler Robinson guy who had a transferry boyfriend.

00:54:35.000 Let's just put it like this.

00:54:36.000 The left who celebrated his death, called for more, have faced no negative repercussions from it.

00:54:43.000 Nothing.

00:54:44.000 So when we talk about the risks that we face doing shows like this, it is coming off the heels of a political assassination where they won.

00:54:52.000 Where they have put the right in disarray.

00:54:54.000 There has been no detriment to the left.

00:54:56.000 They have insulted Charlie.

00:54:58.000 They have mocked him.

00:55:00.000 And now what people need to consider in this space like where we are is they have now taken into consideration that if they kill a conservative, they will get away with it.

00:55:10.000 I believe that dramatically increases.

00:55:11.000 So it's a lot of wrong university.

00:55:12.000 You think that wasn't a hit job on that Republican woman? 0.90

00:55:15.000 It looks a lot like that's what it might have been.

00:55:18.000 Young college Republican woman was killed along with one other person, and they're not they're they're not putting out video. 0.95

00:55:24.000 I mean this is ridiculous. 0.89

00:55:25.000 Yeah, very strange. 0.74

00:55:26.000 It feels like the right in general um, doesn't have like a really good message.

00:55:30.000 It's got like family and faith, which is good, apple pie and apple pie's nice, but they don't ever talk about science, like I don't ever hear them talk about science and like if you want to win, really fix the world, you need better material sciences, like you.

00:55:44.000 Well, you have.

00:55:45.000 I got to give it to you, Ian.

00:55:47.000 People love these general interest podcasts where they people talk about free energy and like hidden technologies.

00:55:56.000 Joe Rogan's going to talk about how the technology used to build the Pyramids and UFOs.

00:56:03.000 People generally are interested in new tech.

00:56:06.000 They buy it like crazy tech podcasts do really well and I agree the right doesn't have a general interest angle.

00:56:14.000 I don't think science is that.

00:56:15.000 I'll be all of this, but I get your point.

00:56:17.000 The right tends to have a family is good and taxes are too high message and so they they're not hitting that general interest field.

00:56:24.000 I do think more recently they've done a better job of it.

00:56:26.000 That's why even Joe Rogan endorses Donald Trump, but not like Democrats are doing it all the same.

00:56:32.000 At least however, Democrats are telling people what they want to hear, free money and cheaper health care.

00:56:36.000 The Democrats saw the message that we put out in 2024 about we were just the economy.

00:56:42.000 Economy, you know like like, what's his name?

00:56:44.000 Says it's the economy. 1.00

00:56:45.000 Stupid, you know. 1.00

00:56:46.000 It's just. 1.00

00:56:46.000 You've got to. 1.00

00:56:47.000 You can't.

00:56:48.000 Yeah, I feel like the left doesn't have a good message either, and it's like they're piggybacking on what we did in 2024 and then we're fractured instead of uniting the left and now it's like boom, they're hitting us at every end.

00:57:00.000 They don't have a good message.

00:57:01.000 The difference is it's the pro.

00:57:03.000 They have no message.

00:57:04.000 It's the pro and the con of our side.

00:57:06.000 Our side embraces free thinkers.

00:57:09.000 Our side embraces challenging and questioning and this, and that the left can make one phone call and they all fall in line, no matter how crazy it is, and they're all gonna just do what whoever called them told them to do.

00:57:23.000 Yeah, I gotta be asked, wouldn't it be easier if there was some shadowy political cabal that just paid you a million bucks a year?

00:57:29.000 Oh, you don't gotta worry about sponsor advertiser business, just if I left my wife tomorrow and started a relationship with Aoc and it's funny because she's out there.

00:57:37.000 All right, I would be the most famous, the most talked about and probably one of the richest commentators within 12 months.

00:57:45.000 Would you say, like if I said you know what?

00:57:47.000 It's all fake. 1.00

00:57:48.000 The Republicans are horrible. 1.00

00:57:50.000 It's terrible. 1.00

00:57:51.000 I've seen the light.

00:57:53.000 Being married to one woman, one woman only, is not the way. 0.95

00:57:56.000 I'm leaving my wife, i'm going, and me and the teeth to gum ratio Aoc, the teeth.

00:58:04.000 We're in a relationship.

00:58:05.000 I'm a Democrat now, not only that, i'm a democratic socialist.

00:58:08.000 I'd have endorses from Colgate OREO, all kinds of this stuff.

00:58:12.000 Have you ever seen the Ryan Long bit where it's uh, left and right wing podcast sponsors yeah, and the left-wing guy is like welcome to the Anti-communist or the anti-capitalist revolution brought to you by Mcdonald's.

00:58:22.000 And then it shows the uh, the conservative guy, and he's like it's brought to you by Patriot Water, Water for Patriots.

00:58:28.000 Very good bit, I mean I I think a lot of it, like, I don't want to name a name, but there's a couple of people in the poker world.

00:58:34.000 They're really famous in Hollywood, and they were liberals.

00:58:37.000 And whenever I brought up Trump, you know, don't bring up Trump.

00:58:41.000 And then after this election, I saw his wife on the plane, and she called me, and she's like, we start talking politics.

00:58:48.000 And she's like, we voted for Trump.

00:58:51.000 I'm like, well, what?

00:58:52.000 Right?

00:58:52.000 And then she told me, this is really cool.

00:58:55.000 She's like, well, when October 7th happened, it brought me back to my Jewish roots.

00:59:00.000 And I realized everybody on the left, what, that came out the next day before Israel even had a response for October 7th. 0.87

00:59:08.000 They're out in the streets hating the Jews and kill all the Jews, globalize the NDI.

00:59:13.000 And she's like, wow, I'm on the wrong side. 0.98

00:59:16.000 I think it was on this show, Daniel Nograno credited you with waking him up.

00:59:22.000 He said that he had Joe Rogan ended up bringing up on his show because the story is so amazing.

00:59:27.000 Daniel, one of the most famous poker players ever, he's in movies, said that he thought he saw the video where Trump said that Nazis were very fine people because he saw this little snippet.

00:59:38.000 And then he was like, it was not until Mike puts the phone on the table, presses play, slides over, says, watch this.

00:59:44.000 And he was like, okay, fine, I'll watch it.

00:59:45.000 He looks and he goes, oh.

00:59:49.000 And the thing is, it's also back then I was just huge Tucker fan.

00:59:52.000 I thought that he was so good for our side.

00:59:54.000 Everything he was telling was the truth. 0.94

00:59:55.000 And then Daniel said, Tucker's a racist. 0.57

00:59:57.000 I'm like, and he'd send me this clip. 0.71

00:59:59.000 I'm like, that's not the real clip.

01:00:00.000 I go, here's the real clip, right?

01:00:02.000 And I go, did you watch it?

01:00:03.000 And he would say, no, I don't watch nothing on Fox News.

01:00:06.000 Right.

01:00:06.000 And that's how he used to be because that's what liberals are.

01:00:09.000 They won't listen to your side.

01:00:10.000 Like, if a liberal comes up to me, I'll listen to everything they have to say.

01:00:13.000 But if you want to say something to them, if they're stuck in their own minds, they won't listen.

01:00:17.000 And once, you know, once they break through, and I think a lot of it had to do with Elon, because Daniel had one of the first five Teslas ever made, right?

01:00:24.000 So Elon was his hero.

01:00:26.000 And so all of a sudden he's following Elon, and Elon's putting out all the accounts that I've been following for years.

01:00:30.000 And now he starts opening up.

01:00:32.000 He starts seeing these different things.

01:00:34.000 And Daniel's a smart guy.

01:00:36.000 And I don't want to say anything, but we went to war over politics in 2016. 1.00

01:00:41.000 Like we went from the closest friends to like, I'll kill you kind of crazy shit. 1.00

01:00:46.000 He hated Trump so much. 1.00

01:00:47.000 But I always knew he's just a wonderful, loving person, and he's very smart, and he'd figure it out.

01:00:52.000 And he did.

01:00:52.000 And it makes me happy.

01:00:53.000 Yeah.

01:00:53.000 And it's also, you know, Trump's been getting a lot of flag for his comments on Rob Reiner, which I can understand.

01:00:59.000 It was terrible.

01:00:59.000 Rob has said nasty things about Trump and his family and accused him of crimes and all these awful things.

01:01:04.000 But have you seen James Woods' response?

01:01:07.000 And James Woods is one of my very good friends.

01:01:09.000 And when I talked about Rob Reiner a couple of years ago, you know what he said to me?

01:01:13.000 He's the kindest, most wonderful person in the world.

01:01:16.000 I try and tell him the truth about politics.

01:01:18.000 He just won't listen at all.

01:01:19.000 So I just got done with it.

01:01:21.000 But it doesn't mean that I don't love the guy.

01:01:23.000 And that's where Trump misses the mark here, right?

01:01:26.000 Somebody could hate you, and it doesn't matter. 0.94

01:01:29.000 He was killed by his own drug addict son.

01:01:32.000 Trump's message should have been, this is why I'm out to get rid of drugs.

01:01:37.000 Look what this son did to this person.

01:01:39.000 I might have not liked this person, but nobody deserves this.

01:01:42.000 And Trump could have, boom, and then he could have been looked really good at it, you know, because that's what took Rob Reiner down. 0.98

01:01:49.000 His son, a drug addict on drugs, killed his mother and father.

01:01:52.000 And Trump could have said, this is why we're attacking the drugs.

01:01:55.000 I want to pull this story up actually because it's very interesting.

01:01:56.000 Some variety.

01:01:58.000 James Woods tears up over infuriating remarks about patriot Rob Reiner.

01:02:02.000 Because you disagree with people doesn't mean you have to hate them.

01:02:05.000 And, you know, we talked about this the other day, and there were people saying, pretending to mourn for Rob Reiner, won't stop the left from trying to kill you.

01:02:14.000 Don't get me wrong. 0.99

01:02:15.000 I understand there's a lot of young leftists who are insane and want to murder all of us. 0.98

01:02:20.000 Literally just had someone cheat at a property. 0.57

01:02:22.000 But Rob Reiner made some of the greatest of American culture.

01:02:26.000 I was saying this the other day.

01:02:27.000 And Princess Bride is epic.

01:02:30.000 And when we talk about defending America, those are the movies that represent the America that we want to do.

01:02:36.000 Yeah.

01:02:37.000 Misery, for what's worth.

01:02:38.000 It's a brutal movie, but a few good men.

01:02:42.000 But I mean, come on, The Princess Bride.

01:02:45.000 He's also the son of Archie.

01:02:46.000 I just kind of put that together today.

01:02:48.000 You know, I've been watching some of them, because since he died, there's lots of clips going around.

01:02:52.000 And I remember when I was a young kid watching it, it's like, you couldn't, they'd throw you in jail for life if there was another architecture.

01:02:59.000 Bounce ball in the family is there in the show. 0.96

01:03:01.000 Where's the rebooted?

01:03:02.000 James Woods is like as MAGA as they come.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, nobody.

01:03:06.000 He is a huge Trump supporter.

01:03:08.000 And he appears on, I think it was Fox News.

01:03:11.000 And he was choking up because he had been good friends with Rob Reiner.

01:03:15.000 And I think the story was that he was initially not going to get cast because he was too young.

01:03:20.000 But Rob Reiner went to bat for him and helped him get his start in Hollywood and help him make a life.

01:03:25.000 And they'd been friends forever.

01:03:27.000 This is a message of we should not let politics tear us apart.

01:03:32.000 Now, don't get me wrong, the violent extremists, they're going to go to jail for being violent extremists when they break the law and they do these things.

01:03:38.000 Rob Reiner was just some doofy boomer liberal guy.

01:03:42.000 He's one of these people who has fallen into the sea of CNN slop and MSN.

01:03:49.000 Yeah.

01:03:50.000 And when I looked at these people, I've met my share of older boomers who are like, I'm not a liberal, but they're liberals.

01:03:57.000 And you talk to them.

01:03:58.000 They just need to be exposed.

01:04:00.000 It's like what you were saying with people you knew.

01:04:02.000 They just need to be exposed to other people and have some pushback and have someone share with them, here's the real video, and finally break through.

01:04:09.000 So this was an opportunity for Trump to be, as I said the other day, magnanimous, not just for himself, but for James, who was also a friend of Trump's.

01:04:19.000 And the path we want to go down is we're going to bring everyone together.

01:04:25.000 And this country needs to be a left and a right that grumble at each other and then have cheeseburgers together.

01:04:31.000 Yeah.

01:04:32.000 You know, let me ask you, you used to be a Democrat liberal, correct?

01:04:37.000 I don't know.

01:04:37.000 You know, when I was younger, my family, we were just, we were all default liberal, Chicago urban.

01:04:43.000 And then when I was a teenager, it was all punk rock, anarchy, but I knew what any of that actually meant.

01:04:48.000 And then in my, like from like 18, I was actually not from about 18, I was like atheist lefty.

01:04:55.000 And then I became kind of like moderate lib.

01:04:57.000 I came back to reality, started believing in God again, but was very much like, I mean, look, it was John McCain and Mitt Romney.

01:05:05.000 There's no way I was going to be anywhere near Republicans.

01:05:08.000 I didn't even know what politics was until 2015 when I was bedridden after my surgery.

01:05:12.000 And my girlfriend at the time was like, you got to pick someone for president, right?

01:05:16.000 So I fill out this questionnaire and it comes up, Trump.

01:05:20.000 And I never liked Trump.

01:05:21.000 I mean, in 2008, I went to his, I stayed at his hotel and I had to move out of it in Hawaii.

01:05:27.000 And I never liked Trump because he was, you know, he was a playboy.

01:05:31.000 He was all over the schmutt magazines. 0.97

01:05:34.000 I just thought he just, he didn't represent good, like had different marriages, different kids.

01:05:39.000 And then I'm like, really?

01:05:40.000 I have to pick this guy?

01:05:42.000 And every single thing that I believed in, I didn't know nothing.

01:05:44.000 I didn't even know what a Republican or Democrat was.

01:05:47.000 And I'm like, do you want, do you believe in open border?

01:05:51.000 No, we should have closed borders.

01:05:52.000 Do you believe in God?

01:05:53.000 Yes, I believe in God.

01:05:54.000 Do you believe that people should get free?

01:05:57.000 No, people shouldn't get free healthcare.

01:05:59.000 My dad told me when I was a kid, go to work.

01:06:01.000 You want to make it in life?

01:06:02.000 Go to work.

01:06:02.000 Work hard.

01:06:03.000 But the Democrats used to have that too.

01:06:05.000 I mean, even Hillary Clinton was advocating for a border barrier, and so was Bernie Sanders.

01:06:10.000 So was Obama.

01:06:11.000 Absolutely, Obama.

01:06:12.000 Deporter in China.

01:06:12.000 Deporter-in-Chief.

01:06:13.000 And Obama, they called him, because he was very bullish on war in the Middle East.

01:06:18.000 Not a fan of that.

01:06:20.000 But the Democrats and the Republicans were very much the same thing.

01:06:23.000 Then Bernie comes in and politely knocks on the door, saying, we need to have a revolution in this country.

01:06:28.000 And then Donald Trump actually came with a battering ram.

01:06:31.000 The Democrats said, Bernie ain't getting in, and Trump forced his way in.

01:06:34.000 Well, the difference is the Democrats have the super delegates so they could control who could lose their career.

01:06:39.000 And the right.

01:06:39.000 Bernie should have gotten the knowledge.

01:06:41.000 Absolutely.

01:06:42.000 They cheated him twice, which, you know, I get it.

01:06:44.000 For the good of the country, we can't have socialism, right?

01:06:46.000 Now, here's another thing.

01:06:48.000 Trump wanted Mamdani to win in New York, okay?

01:06:51.000 He wanted a socialist communist because now in 2028 and 20, we could run on, if you don't vote for us, the socialism is going to take over the world and the country and we're going to be gone.

01:07:02.000 The only problem and the only flaw with that is you got to let him burn it to the ground and then we're going to lose the midterms in the process.

01:07:08.000 So it's like we're sacrificing the midterms to try to crawl our way back in 2028.

01:07:16.000 But then the reality is this, and I tell my audience this all the time, we got to win in 24, we got to win in, which we did.

01:07:23.000 We got to win in 26, then we got to win in 28.

01:07:26.000 Well, we were going to win it all.

01:07:27.000 Let me tell you assassinated Charles.

01:07:30.000 I've told everybody that the swamp in D.C., the system in D.C. is deeper, darker, more corrupt, more obstacles in your life.

01:07:39.000 You know how corrupt it is.

01:07:41.000 Look how quick the Doge was silenced, okay?

01:07:44.000 And I have inside information from somebody close that Pete Hesgeth was going to be removed if he wanted to do to the Defense Department what they were doing with Doge.

01:07:56.000 And then the people with all the money said, quiet that, blah, Or he's gone.

01:08:02.000 If people actually saw the accounting for the Pentagon.

01:08:06.000 Oh, my God.

01:08:07.000 They steal billions and billions.

01:08:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:09.000 Hold on.

01:08:10.000 So yes, yes.

01:08:12.000 But the Doge guys, I got to know the Doge guys at the Pentagon pretty well.

01:08:15.000 Some of them actually left Doge to become actual GS employees at the Pentagon to stay on, which Elon clarified, right?

01:08:23.000 Like Doge didn't actually 100% go away.

01:08:26.000 A lot of these people stayed in the things.

01:08:29.000 If the country actually knew, if I can give a shout out to Pete for a minute, if the country actually knew how the Department of Defense then was being run under Biden, I think we'd have a purge in the streets.

01:08:42.000 Like if people actually knew how on autopilot all of this stuff actually was, it's a miracle that we weren't invaded.

01:08:52.000 I'm going to ask you to ask you all a question.

01:08:54.000 No, I'm serious.

01:08:54.000 Like words of miracle.

01:08:57.000 I'm going to ask you all a question and I'm going to see if you really know the answer.

01:09:00.000 Do you guys believe the Elon Trump fallout was real or was staged so they could so they could stop burning down Tesla and Tesla stock and that for and he just went away from politics for six months and now they're back the investment.

01:09:16.000 Was it staged or did they really go out?

01:09:18.000 I could well the first thing I'll say is I don't know, but I can see why they would because now they're back together again and Elon just announced he's funding Republicans very heavily. 0.97

01:09:29.000 At first, I think that I think, well, I think Elon got really upset with the Big Beautiful bill and there was a lot of shit in there that was awful, that was really bad for our side. 0.66

01:09:38.000 But he had to realize, I think he had to realize you can't have it all. 0.98

01:09:42.000 And I think Trump was trying to explain this to him.

01:09:44.000 And that's where they got in the fight.

01:09:45.000 But I always felt like the Democrats win if they separate.

01:09:49.000 Everybody thinks they know politics until they actually get hit in the face with politics.

01:09:54.000 And I think Elon, granted, he had a lot more knowledge than the average person with all his defense contracts and blah, I think people think they understand politics until you get into D.C. 0.97

01:10:07.000 And then you find out, oh, I really don't know crap about politics.

01:10:10.000 And he's the richest man in the world. 0.95

01:10:12.000 And I do.

01:10:13.000 I think that there was initially probably a, you've got an unstoppable force made in an immovable object at the same time.

01:10:20.000 And they came to an impasse and it got really heated, really.

01:10:23.000 Yeah, it got nasty for a little bit, but I know that people that are close to Trump, I know this for a fact.

01:10:30.000 And they say, no matter what you say, Trump is only there because he loves his country.

01:10:37.000 He wants to help it.

01:10:38.000 He's not, yes, does he do a lot of corrupt things?

01:10:41.000 Like, do I agree with him selling Trump watches all over Fox News? 1.00

01:10:44.000 No, I think that's just stupid. 0.99

01:10:46.000 I had a reporter at the Washington Post was asking me about comments I had made. 0.99

01:10:50.000 This is funny.

01:10:50.000 Candace Owens tweeted that I was working with Wapo on a hit piece on her.

01:10:54.000 It's like, no, Washington Post were inquiring about what I literally said on my show, which was very public.

01:11:01.000 And they asked, you know, you're claiming she's doing this for clicks and views, but she's wealthy. 1.00

01:11:05.000 Why would that be the case?

01:11:07.000 And I said, why would Donald Trump be president?

01:11:10.000 Some people are not motivated by money.

01:11:13.000 They're motivated by something else.

01:11:15.000 I don't believe, you know, they come out and they say Trump is just doing this for ego.

01:11:20.000 I'm like, no way.

01:11:21.000 No.

01:11:21.000 Bro would be on a yacht in the Mediterranean hitting golf balls into the sea.

01:11:25.000 You know, I play poker with, I do a fundraiser with Ted Cruz every year.

01:11:30.000 We do it at Bellagio, whatever.

01:11:32.000 And we have this dinner.

01:11:33.000 When's the next one?

01:11:34.000 In April.

01:11:35.000 Maybe you can come down.

01:11:36.000 Yeah.

01:11:36.000 You know, and we sit in this room with the richest donors probably in the world.

01:11:41.000 And we do this pump.

01:11:43.000 We do this poker tournament.

01:11:44.000 And Ted's a great guy, and he loves poker.

01:11:46.000 And we talk about he's like, I'm going to win in 2028.

01:11:49.000 We're going to have a poker game in the West Wing once a week, right?

01:11:52.000 And I love Ted to death.

01:11:54.000 And everybody knows him and Trump in 2016, the hatred they had for each other, right?

01:12:01.000 He told me, you know, yeah, we know Trump's a narcissist and he has to have his way, whatever.

01:12:06.000 He says he's never met anybody, anybody in politics that loves his country and wants to make this country better than Donald Trump.

01:12:13.000 Now, that's a big statement.

01:12:15.000 Did you see him on Larry King where he was like, I'm sorry, I have to sit back.

01:12:19.000 Your breath smells very bad.

01:12:20.000 Does anyone ever tell you that?

01:12:21.000 Yeah, Trump said that.

01:12:23.000 And then he gets somebody.

01:12:24.000 He's like, I was just kidding.

01:12:25.000 That's a debate.

01:12:26.000 That's a negotiation tactic I use.

01:12:28.000 Like, that's how he acts as president.

01:12:31.000 I wish there are a lot of people who think behind the scenes everybody's conspiring with each other.

01:12:36.000 And then it's like, you know, look, there's a lot of conspiring going on.

01:12:41.000 It's true.

01:12:41.000 It used to be this way.

01:12:42.000 The right hates it more than the left.

01:12:44.000 It used to be that you'd see a Republican on the floor, maybe it's like 15, 20 years ago, going, the Democrats are trying to do this, that, or otherwise.

01:12:51.000 And the Democrat goes on, like, I swear to God, you know, you're.

01:12:53.000 And then once the cameras are wrapped, you can see him in the background shaking hands, smiling and patting each other on the back.

01:12:58.000 And it's not like that anymore.

01:13:00.000 It is certainly not like that with whatever our generation is.

01:13:02.000 People are at each other's throats.

01:13:04.000 No, I even said, oh, Ted, listen, Schumer and Trump, like, they act like they're good friends when they're around each other.

01:13:10.000 And he says, they hate each other.

01:13:12.000 But you've seen it like when they did the roast.

01:13:15.000 What's that?

01:13:16.000 The roast that they do with the roast?

01:13:18.000 With the religious guy.

01:13:20.000 They do it before the election.

01:13:21.000 John Oliver.

01:13:22.000 No, the thing before the election that she didn't show.

01:13:25.000 Oh, the correspondence?

01:13:26.000 The correspondent.

01:13:28.000 And before the election, they act like they're friends.

01:13:30.000 They all make fun of each other, right?

01:13:32.000 And then Trump was making fun of Schumer.

01:13:34.000 He's like, oh, no, he's a real good guy.

01:13:36.000 He pats him on the back.

01:13:37.000 And so then you sort of say, oh, are they really good friends?

01:13:40.000 But Ted says, no, they're not.

01:13:42.000 No, no, I agree with that.

01:13:43.000 Well, because we're dealing with two separate, almost two separate species at this point.

01:13:48.000 But the difference between the Democrats versus actual Republicans.

01:13:54.000 We're not talking about, should we raise taxes like 2%?

01:13:58.000 No, no.

01:13:58.000 We're talking about fundamental, completely different landscapes and directions of which we want our country to go.

01:14:08.000 The reason, Matt Walsh did a good job on Tucker the other day.

01:14:11.000 If you guys didn't watch that, Matt Walsh brought this up.

01:14:14.000 The reason that all the transgender stuff and all of this, it's not gone.

01:14:18.000 Obviously, it's still there, but the reason it's not shoved in our face 24-7 is because we did push people together.

01:14:25.000 You do know it dropped like this.

01:14:26.000 60, 70% in a six-month period.

01:14:28.000 Absolutely.

01:14:30.000 They couldn't make money off of it anymore.

01:14:32.000 But that is a direct response from the constant fighting against it.

01:14:37.000 24-7, not letting up.

01:14:40.000 It's going to go down.

01:14:41.000 It's going to go down in 10, 15 years.

01:14:42.000 If we lose the midterms.

01:14:43.000 That's the most insane thing that's going to happen.

01:14:46.000 I think it goes right back up.

01:14:47.000 Yeah, I disagree with that.

01:14:48.000 I think that the idea that the right is going to win and then it's over is wrong.

01:14:55.000 It's going to be a constant thing.

01:14:57.000 To be honest with you, these ideas aren't actually new.

01:15:00.000 All the LGBT ideology and stuff.

01:15:03.000 Yeah, but they're not for the trans ideology.

01:15:05.000 The trans people, I know people in the adult industry, they just want to be left alone.

01:15:10.000 They don't want to be part of the alphabet, but what I'm talking about is the activists.

01:15:13.000 And those are the people that are driving it, right?

01:15:15.000 And a lot of people in academics, people in colleges and stuff.

01:15:18.000 These ideas have been around since the 90s or even earlier.

01:15:22.000 The first queer theory books. 0.80

01:15:24.000 I think Judith Butler wrote one of the first queer theory books in the 90s and stuff.

01:15:27.000 So this stuff has been around for 30 years.

01:15:30.000 It's not going to just go away.

01:15:32.000 These are ideas that are here to stay.

01:15:34.000 And it's a matter of making sure that we as conservatives can say, look, this stuff doesn't get into schools.

01:15:41.000 This stuff doesn't get to dominate.

01:15:42.000 That's one thing we have to win.

01:15:44.000 It doesn't dominate, doesn't dominate the culture and stuff.

01:15:47.000 If you live like that, we can make room for you in society. 0.53

01:15:50.000 We're not going to let you decide where you're, you know, that women can't have private bathrooms from trans trans women or whatever. 1.00

01:15:57.000 You said we as conservatives.

01:15:59.000 And that is already the cultural dimension.

01:16:01.000 We as people on the right.

01:16:02.000 And if there's a difference, the left go so insane that liberals become right-wing.

01:16:10.000 Now if they walk it back, they've changed what it means to be a liberal.

01:16:15.000 And so they go as crazy as to say, Bill Maher is a good example.

01:16:20.000 Oh, he's right-wing now.

01:16:21.000 I mean, he doesn't want to admit it.

01:16:22.000 Okay.

01:16:23.000 But he is, he, I mean, he is, he wants to say I'm a liberal, I'm a class.

01:16:28.000 And he is.

01:16:28.000 But classroom liberals is the same as Elon.

01:16:31.000 They were here, but they haven't moved, but other things moved across.

01:16:35.000 This is the point.

01:16:36.000 Basically, they've shifted the Overton window by they went out and advocated for the craziest left-wing things, said the left means child sex changes.

01:16:46.000 Then moderates were like, I'm opposed to that.

01:16:48.000 Then you must be on the right.

01:16:49.000 Now when they walk back to, oh, you know, now that they try to actually be slightly left on a lot of issues, they're going to say, this is just the moderate liberal position now, even though it's technically, as of 20 years ago, far left.

01:17:03.000 They're going to advocate for corporate ownership by the workers like Bernie has, and they're going to claim it's moderate.

01:17:07.000 To your point about the, you've made the point that a lot of this stuff has been spread so broadly on the internet.

01:17:13.000 The way that the left and right divide is it's in the United States, it used to be we were all kind of right-leaning, right?

01:17:22.000 Even Democrats were kind of right-leaning.

01:17:24.000 Now because of the internet, you've really internationalized the right and left.

01:17:27.000 And you see people on the left in the United States, they're really more like what you would see as a European leftist, where like if you're on the right, you believe in things like property rights.

01:17:37.000 If you're on the left, you don't believe in property rights.

01:17:39.000 Well, one of the things is when they hooked up the world on the internet, you've got to realize the whole world is 50-50, right down the middle, right?

01:17:47.000 You have the 15% crazies on the left and right, and you have the 35% right here, where half of it is true on our side, half of it is true on their side, and we have to find the middle.

01:17:57.000 And that's what Charlie was so good about doing.

01:17:59.000 Finding the middle, finding common ground, okay?

01:18:01.000 The 15 over here, they're gone, right? 1.00

01:18:05.000 They're just gone.

01:18:06.000 You know, we're tasting the world doesn't care about free speech.

01:18:09.000 I mean, people want it, but the world doesn't hold it up.

01:18:12.000 And that's why we know that we're done.

01:18:14.000 No, Right is like this small group of people that want to maintain freedom of speech, gun rights, property rights, and everything else in this world is using the internet to bombard liberalism, make us think we're crazy, and make us think that you're my enemy.

01:18:27.000 But liberalism was always free speech.

01:18:29.000 That was their, they were anti-war, pro-free speech.

01:18:32.000 Now, what are they?

01:18:32.000 Pro-war, anti-free speech?

01:18:34.000 Like, like, like, if Trump said, I've cured cancer, F you, you Kurd cancer. 0.98

01:18:39.000 We want cancer back.

01:18:42.000 Everybody's pro-free speech when they're talking about the things that they're talking about.

01:18:46.000 But when you're saying that, you're saying something that they don't like, then free speech is, hey, you remember when Pam Bondi came out like three months ago?

01:18:52.000 Oh, that's hate speech.

01:18:53.000 No, there's nothing to say as hate speech.

01:18:55.000 She walked it back.

01:18:56.000 So, like, the right does the same thing trying to, when they get power, trying to get it.

01:19:00.000 Yeah, but that's what we're talking about.

01:19:02.000 Like, like, the full circle of all of this is simply this.

01:19:05.000 To your point, free speech isn't for the, you know, the, it's not there.

01:19:10.000 The First Amendment's not there for people to say things that you agree with.

01:19:13.000 And there's a lot of people that get mad at me.

01:19:16.000 And Tim, I'm sure they're mad at you. 0.99

01:19:17.000 Well, see, you're a hypocrite because you believe in free speech and all this, but yet you're attacking Candace. 0.99

01:19:22.000 I'm not attacking Candace. 0.99

01:19:24.000 I'm questioning her questions.

01:19:25.000 Yeah.

01:19:26.000 So, so, but that's where we are.

01:19:28.000 We're at a point where there's now factions.

01:19:30.000 All right.

01:19:31.000 You've got this belief or this belief or this belief or this belief.

01:19:34.000 And now we're all mortal enemies of each other if we question each other.

01:19:38.000 But before the 2024 election, every conspiracy that they accused us of being conspiracy theorists all came true, right?

01:19:46.000 So we ended up being shown that everything we were saying was the truth.

01:19:49.000 Everything the media was saying was a lie.

01:19:51.000 Now when we start spreading conspiracy theories like Candace and it's the Jews, it's this, it's this. 0.99

01:19:57.000 Now all of a sudden they look at, wait a minute, we thought that they were telling the truth, but look at the garbage they're spreading out. 0.98

01:20:04.000 And that's what we have to face.

01:20:05.000 The reason, and I know that people have Candace fatigue, I get it.

01:20:09.000 I see the comments here.

01:20:10.000 I see the comments on my show every day.

01:20:12.000 People ask, why?

01:20:14.000 Why are we pushing back so hard against Candace?

01:20:17.000 Well, for me, it's this.

01:20:18.000 A majority of Candace's audience is female. 0.70

01:20:22.000 It can go without saying that between the ages of 18 to 45, we have a messaging issue with female voters in this country. 0.99

01:20:32.000 The data points to it.

01:20:34.000 It is undeniable in every fact.

01:20:36.000 When you've got somebody like Candace Owens, that, yeah, you've got these majority, you know, possibly true crime.

01:20:44.000 But she could get on the side of Megan Kelly, on the side of you, and come back, and she could walk it back and say, you know what?

01:20:51.000 I don't think Candace is capable of fully walking back. 1.00

01:20:53.000 I'm just saying, if she did, if she did, she'll lose some viewers for a time, but it'll go like this and then back up.

01:21:01.000 Okay?

01:21:02.000 Because she's very good at talking.

01:21:04.000 She's very good at like, boom. 0.59

01:21:07.000 Yeah, but it's female-coded. 0.98

01:21:09.000 And they get, it's funny because when I point this out, they got really offended by it.

01:21:13.000 And I was like, women. 0.89

01:21:14.000 Because guys don't care if you're like, this show's totally for guys. 1.00

01:21:17.000 Five guys sitting around making dick jokes and drinking beer. 0.99

01:21:19.000 They're going to go, yeah. 0.97

01:21:20.000 If you say that Candace does a true crime drama emotional show, they go, what's emotional about it?

01:21:26.000 They get all angry about it.

01:21:27.000 She knows exactly what she's doing.

01:21:28.000 She says the words that get that hit the woman. 0.74

01:21:30.000 But this is the thing, right?

01:21:32.000 The tone of women. 0.99

01:21:33.000 She uses tone very articulately.

01:21:35.000 Men and women think very differently.

01:21:36.000 And I was having this conversation about Cam, I think it was Cam Higby posted that this is funny.

01:21:44.000 Cam Higby posted that Candace's subscriber and view count was the lowest point it had ever been right before Charlie Kirk's assassination.

01:21:51.000 And there's a massive spike in his viewership, in her viewership right after he's murdered.

01:21:57.000 And I was asked about this by the Washington Post, to which I said, yeah, Cam Higbee reported this.

01:22:03.000 And then Candace, you know, was like, he's claiming my audience numbers were bad, laughable, but that's not what I was saying.

01:22:08.000 What I said was, this is a male-coated argument.

01:22:12.000 If you go to a guy and they ask you what is your critique of Candace Owens, you go with, well, just before she went in this whole arc, her subscriber growth was the lowest it had ever been.

01:22:23.000 She had zero growth for the month, and her view count was lower than it had been in the previous months.

01:22:27.000 After Charlie Cook's assassination, she got a massive spike in new subscribers and viewers, and she pursued it.

01:22:33.000 That is very mathematical.

01:22:35.000 Yeah.

01:22:35.000 You go to a woman, she's not going to be persuaded by that.

01:22:38.000 And this is not to deride women, though many women get offended when I point this out.

01:22:42.000 The argument you make to women is that Candace Owens clearly loves Charlie. 1.00

01:22:48.000 She had been speaking about him longingly, that she was his wingman, but that he chose someone else, and she was the one advising him on his clothes.

01:22:56.000 And it very much sounds like she wanted to be with him and could not.

01:22:59.000 I'm just going to say it.

01:23:00.000 Did you think, like, before she got married, she really wanted to be with Charlie and then she found error?

01:23:07.000 She makes it sound like that.

01:23:08.000 The point I'm making is it's not relatable to a woman to explain the intricacies of statistics in business motivation. 1.00

01:23:16.000 Some women, yes. 1.00

01:23:18.000 The average woman, probably not.

01:23:19.000 And that's why women watch Married Love at First Sight and what's the other one? 0.99

01:23:24.000 Absolutely.

01:23:25.000 No, the Married to Strangers shows.

01:23:27.000 They like these very emotional social things.

01:23:30.000 90 Day Fiancé.

01:23:31.000 Candace's show very much follows that line, which is why it's heavily female. 1.00

01:23:35.000 She has the Stanley mug, which is a big trend.

01:23:37.000 It's very trendy among women. 1.00

01:23:38.000 She always has a different mug up.

01:23:41.000 And her show is not like ours, where we say things like, in the midterms, we're looking at a minus four in the general battle.

01:23:49.000 I mean, very statistical.

01:23:51.000 Her show is. 0.89

01:23:54.000 I remember when Charlie texted me and he was wearing this ridiculous tie.

01:24:00.000 And I said, Charlie, you can't wear that tie, but he wanted to. 0.97

01:24:04.000 And I said, you should burn it.

01:24:06.000 But that's what it was like, you know. 0.75

01:24:08.000 And that's how women communicate. 1.00

01:24:10.000 I see the connection you're talking about.

01:24:11.000 Yeah.

01:24:12.000 So the point is, we're talking about how does she come back from this.

01:24:16.000 Well, I think actually, to be honest, she's not going to be able to come back politically, but among her true crime drama viewers, it'll be very easy.

01:24:23.000 Among the conspiracy audience she's cultivated, they're going to be very angry, but it's a much more male presence in the space.

01:24:29.000 When she goes back talking about Blake Lively and marital drama in Hollywood, she's fine.

01:24:34.000 That was kind of crazy, too.

01:24:36.000 The Blake Lively, what's his name?

01:24:38.000 Ryan Reynolds.

01:24:39.000 And it was weird because I had said something somewhat innocuous, like I liked Ryan Reynolds, and then people in chat started saying things like, you're taking his son on this one?

01:24:48.000 Don't you know anything about Blake Lively?

01:24:49.000 And I'm like, I don't know anything about him.

01:24:52.000 Nor do we care.

01:24:53.000 No one cares.

01:24:53.000 I don't care.

01:24:54.000 Back to the Candace, did Candace love Charlie thing that I've seen around?

01:25:00.000 I've actually changed my stance over this over time.

01:25:03.000 You know, Charlie himself told me how she met George in the first place and all this stuff.

01:25:10.000 They were on a trip somewhere.

01:25:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:11.000 But the point was, I believe she was dating somebody at the time or it just broke up with somebody or the timelines are pretty close there.

01:25:18.000 But either way, moving on.

01:25:19.000 I don't think Candace was in love with Charlie in that way.

01:25:23.000 I think Candace was in love with what Charlie had built.

01:25:26.000 And I, I, after you're part of this, after part of this.

01:25:30.000 After watching things that she said, talking about you don't get to get widowed into CEO and all this other stuff.

01:25:36.000 I believe that.

01:25:37.000 I believe Candace Owens thought, I believe Candace Owens truly believed that when Charlie died, I believed she thought she was going to get a phone call for her and George to go in there and be interim CEO and then work their way into full-time CEO of Turning Point USA to become the full, the full-fledged moving forward.

01:25:59.000 That's what I have started to believe.

01:26:02.000 She could have been if she could if she didn't go into this other, she went in this crazy way thing. 0.52

01:26:09.000 George had been, what, had a UK Turning Point UK for like two months in 2019 or something.

01:26:16.000 I don't know much about that.

01:26:17.000 Well, George also took over Parlor, too, for a while.

01:26:20.000 How does George let her?

01:26:22.000 How does he let her put out all that stuff?

01:26:24.000 How do you stop her?

01:26:25.000 Like, yeah, exactly.

01:26:26.000 Like, getting on the screen.

01:26:27.000 I mean, I'm supposed to do.

01:26:28.000 I'm imagining George is going, honey, maybe, maybe you don't.

01:26:32.000 I don't know what.

01:26:33.000 Nothing.

01:26:35.000 Listen, I loved Candace.

01:26:36.000 You know, when she was with the Blexit movement, she was like a real ally for us, right?

01:26:42.000 And I loved her.

01:26:43.000 And then, I mean, I still don't get over when Charlie died.

01:26:48.000 The world was becoming more religious. 0.89

01:26:50.000 They were all, everybody felt so bad.

01:26:52.000 And then she's like, what do you guys feel bad about?

01:26:55.000 Donald Trump killed him.

01:26:56.000 I mean, like, here's the biggest difference with Candace at risk of this getting clipped: is this.

01:27:03.000 The risk, the difference of Candace Owens is this. 0.74

01:27:07.000 Up until now, well, actually, even now, Candace has never, ever, ever, ever had to stand on her own and make her own way and take the arrows on her own without backing, support, and lawyers the entire time that she's been doing this.

01:27:23.000 She was a nobody.

01:27:24.000 She approached Charlie.

01:27:26.000 I know this because they used to tell the story.

01:27:29.000 I watched the beginning just starting.

01:27:31.000 At every Winter Gala event, they would tell the story.

01:27:34.000 The one that she just made fun of, by the way.

01:27:36.000 She and Charlie would tell the story that Charlie was at an event and Candace Owens walked up to Charlie and said, Hi, I'm Candace Owens. 0.67

01:27:44.000 I want to free the slave mind of the black community in America, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:27:48.000 She immediately had donors, power, lawyers, all of this. 0.96

01:27:53.000 Same thing when she started her show at Prager U.

01:27:55.000 She had power, lawyers, money, all this.

01:27:57.000 Then burns those bridges, then goes to Daily Wire.

01:28:00.000 To your point, Tim, now she's got massive money, massive backing, massive lawyers, as we know the Daily Wire. 0.99

01:28:08.000 And if she loses the lawsuit to the Macron's, she ain't going to have to.

01:28:11.000 Yeah, well, now, now.

01:28:12.000 And she will lose.

01:28:13.000 But then she marries George, all right, and all this other stuff, and she's got money behind her and all this.

01:28:18.000 Now she's got all these mounting, and again, I'm just asking questions.

01:28:22.000 She's got all these mounting lawsuits. 1.00

01:28:24.000 She's got all these defamation things that are coming up.

01:28:26.000 You wonder why did she start this route? 0.90

01:28:29.000 I believe she needs money. 0.52

01:28:30.000 That's what I think.

01:28:31.000 She started down this route when she didn't get the phone call.

01:28:34.000 I think she does.

01:28:35.000 I know how she went down to the anti-where is all his company tied up into that.

01:28:41.000 Do you see what the New York Post wrote about her?

01:28:43.000 Her farmer may have money, but he may be saying, like, you're on your own.

01:28:46.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:28:47.000 The New York Post wrote some very unflattering things about her, but it's true, apparently. 0.98

01:28:51.000 She filed a lawsuit against a landlord in 2017 because she was so broke she couldn't pay her rent.

01:28:55.000 So she sued for $15,000, claiming that there was mold in the building that was causing.

01:29:00.000 I read that story.

01:29:02.000 Guys, this is not meant to be derisive.

01:29:03.000 It's from the New York Post article.

01:29:05.000 She filed a lawsuit because she said the mold in the building was causing systemic yeast infections.

01:29:10.000 And I guess she lost that lawsuit, is what happened.

01:29:12.000 And she had to pay $20,000.

01:29:14.000 She owed him $20,000.

01:29:15.000 Yeah, so she owed a bunch of money.

01:29:17.000 And this is not that long ago.

01:29:18.000 Now, she's had a good run of this.

01:29:21.000 I wonder if, yeah, after leaving these companies, she's not sitting on a bag.

01:29:26.000 And maybe she's like, I got to get as much as I can.

01:29:28.000 However, I will say this: the Bridget McCrone thing, she's losing that lawsuit in two seconds. 1.00

01:29:33.000 And I'm going to tell you why.

01:29:34.000 The merits don't matter.

01:29:36.000 People, you know what I love about people?

01:29:39.000 I try to explain this, and I'm sure you guys know it.

01:29:42.000 When you're running businesses, there's a lot of money involved.

01:29:45.000 Contracts are meaningless.

01:29:47.000 I know that I've been screwed over so many times.

01:29:49.000 And people think that there's this movie trope where someone will sign the contract and they'll go, aha, I have a secret clause sitting there that says I now get power of attorney.

01:29:58.000 And they go, oh, no, you've got me.

01:29:59.000 Like, Netflix literally just did this on one of their shows.

01:30:02.000 And I think it was Black Mirror, where they were like, you signed up for Netflix and you agreed to the terms.

01:30:06.000 Oh, no, Rhett's.

01:30:08.000 In reality, if that happens, you go to court and the judge is going to be like, oh, so it wasn't agreed upon?

01:30:12.000 Okay, it's out.

01:30:13.000 Contract's dissolved.

01:30:14.000 It just happens all the time.

01:30:16.000 Bridget McCrone suing Candace Owens as a formality because I'm willing to bet the Macron's called the State Department and said, we want to put a stop to this. 1.00

01:30:24.000 And they said, well, we can't just shut down speech in this country.

01:30:27.000 And they said, then what do we do?

01:30:28.000 File a lawsuit.

01:30:29.000 We'll get it in the right court.

01:30:30.000 You'll win.

01:30:31.000 The judge is going to be in on it because what's going to happen is the State Department's going to call the judge and they're going to say, you need to make this go away.

01:30:38.000 Okay?

01:30:39.000 This is how we're doing it.

01:30:40.000 And the judge is going to go, oh, okay.

01:30:42.000 Then Candace is going to walk in and they're going to go summary judgment, bang, just like they did to Alex Jones. 1.00

01:30:47.000 Do you think that when she said, oh, Trump called me and said to shut up about the Macronas, do you think that really happened?

01:30:54.000 Well, I – from the way she described it, it sounded – Listen, I'm really good at reading people.

01:30:59.000 sounded like it actually did happen because i'm really yes yes But here's what I first said.

01:31:05.000 The way she described the call sounded like a spoof.

01:31:08.000 She mentioned that Trump wasn't actually answering her statements or questions and that he was pausing.

01:31:14.000 It seemed like someone was telling him what to say.

01:31:16.000 And I was like, yeah, that's all the hallmarks of a spoof call where you can't answer the question because you've got the AI-generated voice ready to go.

01:31:23.000 So when she asks a question, you can't type up an answer fast enough.

01:31:26.000 It'd be a weird pause.

01:31:27.000 So you just have pre-scripted things to say.

01:31:30.000 However, I've heard from top men, he actually did call her.

01:31:35.000 And so I don't know for sure, but I've heard people say that actually, yeah, Trump did call her because the Macron's are pissed and this is causing diplomatic problems.

01:31:44.000 So this lawsuit, it's going through the courts.

01:31:47.000 She's going to get Alex Jones.

01:31:50.000 They're going to make up some reason to bang the gavel and say, summary judgment, you're out.

01:31:53.000 I mean, that was, listen, I used to like Alex Jones.

01:31:57.000 And then there's a lot of things I didn't like about him.

01:32:00.000 But what they did to him was like, just because he had an opinion of what he thought, how can they win this lot that lot?

01:32:07.000 He didn't really say, he said, I think it was fake.

01:32:11.000 But even he apologized.

01:32:13.000 I just can't believe what they call.

01:32:15.000 He called people out by name.

01:32:16.000 I think there was some grounds for defamation, but not $1 billion.

01:32:20.000 No, Alex said that he never named anybody.

01:32:23.000 Yeah, I never saw the name either.

01:32:25.000 That's what he said.

01:32:26.000 And what Alex had said publicly is that they never, here's the first fact.

01:32:31.000 They never actually had a trial on the merits of defamation.

01:32:34.000 He was found in default.

01:32:35.000 It was a summary judgment.

01:32:36.000 And what Alex said was they requested documents from him.

01:32:39.000 He turned them over.

01:32:40.000 They said, where's the rest?

01:32:41.000 He said, that's all of them.

01:32:42.000 They said, you're lying.

01:32:43.000 Default.

01:32:43.000 You lose.

01:32:44.000 And there's nothing you can do in that case.

01:32:47.000 They're going to go to Candace and do something similar.

01:32:48.000 They're going to say, Candace, turn over your internal communications pertaining to the Macron's.

01:32:51.000 They'll do it.

01:32:52.000 Then they're going to come back and say, no, there's another conversation.

01:32:55.000 Turn it over.

01:32:56.000 And they're going to say, we gave you everything.

01:32:58.000 Summary judgment, bang, you're in default.

01:33:00.000 Now you owe a million dollars.

01:33:02.000 We're supposed to defend people like Candace if things like that are coming down the pipe. 0.99

01:33:06.000 And it's like for her to make people hate her is not good.

01:33:09.000 You know, we're her fellow Americans.

01:33:11.000 This is the point about contracts, Ian.

01:33:13.000 The idea that we live in a society where if you are correct, you will win is laughable.

01:33:19.000 And as a poker player, you know this full well, the best hand does not always win.

01:33:22.000 No.

01:33:22.000 Exactly.

01:33:24.000 But I do know that the most important thing when you're even in politics is not listening so much to what people say and looking at them and watching how they talk.

01:33:34.000 Because to me, when I watch Candace, to me, it's as phony as can be.

01:33:40.000 It's like night and day, right?

01:33:42.000 And even when Trump lies, like I used to make everybody laugh, I'm like, he's lying about this.

01:33:47.000 He's telling the truth about this.

01:33:48.000 Okay.

01:33:49.000 When he was just, oh, we're kicking, we're blowing up the drug boats because we want drugs.

01:33:53.000 I'm like, come on, dude.

01:33:54.000 I want to see you play against Ian because I think you'd, well, aside from the fact that you're a great poker player, you'd crush him.

01:33:59.000 But I'm sorry, Ian, you wear your cards on your sleeve.

01:34:01.000 On purpose today.

01:34:02.000 I like to think people think 20 minutes of the game and then just dominate.

01:34:07.000 Well, that's like when I play poker for 20 minutes, because I've been around for so long and everybody knows who I am, I just pretend like I'm their best friend.

01:34:14.000 We talk crap, and then I'm just like, oh, I'm like, oh, you raised, I three-pet, right? 0.81

01:34:19.000 I got like 6'3 offsuit. 0.98

01:34:23.000 I become friendly with them.

01:34:25.000 And then I rob them.

01:34:28.000 Only poker, though.

01:34:29.000 I don't do that out of poker.

01:34:30.000 I do got to give it to Ian.

01:34:32.000 He got stacked, bought back in for $100 at a $500 buy-in table and built it back up to $500 before I took it all from him.

01:34:38.000 Correct.

01:34:38.000 Nice.

01:34:39.000 He did build it back up.

01:34:40.000 It's true.

01:34:41.000 I noticed when I was becoming friends with people at the table, I started playing shit. 0.99

01:34:44.000 It was fast. 0.99

01:34:45.000 I'm like, I got to focus.

01:34:46.000 And they keep talking to me and asking me about aliens.

01:34:48.000 And I'm like, bro, I'm losing hundreds of dollars.

01:34:50.000 I can't.

01:34:51.000 I have to ignore you and be a machine right now.

01:34:53.000 I hope they're not all watching this, but when I play poking tournament, first thing I do for the first 30 minutes is become best friends with everybody at the table.

01:34:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:00.000 And I just talk, talk, talk, and then the blinds go up.

01:35:03.000 And it's like, you know, there's so many people who are just not good at the table stuff.

01:35:12.000 And I'm sure you've been at many tables where there's a whale and people are mean to him.

01:35:17.000 And then he leaves.

01:35:18.000 And then those whales, I'm like, God, I wish I was that person.

01:35:21.000 But those whales have a lot more money in the poker plan. 0.99

01:35:24.000 I was at a table where there was this guy who was clearly very wealthy and he was playing miserably and laughing and one guy kept just needling him.

01:35:31.000 And then the guy was like, all right, guys, I'm getting out.

01:35:33.000 We were like, bro, what are you doing?

01:35:35.000 We were all having fun and getting paid.

01:35:37.000 Oh, my God.

01:35:37.000 When people take a bad beat by somebody and they say something when the guy's giving away money, I mean, I play in a game like I was playing yesterday and we had a real live one at the table and like, you know, he beat, he took a brutal beat on me.

01:35:50.000 I said, nice hand, bro.

01:35:51.000 I'm like, he goes, thank you.

01:35:52.000 And that's what you have to say to the people who are giving away money.

01:35:54.000 I played at Maryland Live about a month ago.

01:35:57.000 Okay.

01:35:58.000 And I bought in for, it was a four, I think it was a $500, it was a $400 buy-in, and I left with three grand.

01:36:03.000 And there were three drunk guys laughing on the way out, shook my hand as I took all their money from them.

01:36:08.000 That's the point.

01:36:08.000 We're all here to have fun.

01:36:10.000 And even though they lost, they had a good time.

01:36:11.000 You're never wrong at the poker table.

01:36:12.000 You always tell the other guys, thank you.

01:36:14.000 I had a blast.

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01:38:34.000 Let's get to your rants and chats.

01:38:37.000 Let's see what's going on over on the Rumble side.

01:38:39.000 All right.

01:38:40.000 One goat says, The cope in this estrogen-filled room is too funny.

01:38:43.000 Your credibility is gone, Timmy. 0.99

01:38:45.000 Who the F even cares about Graham Allen's retarded opinions, LMFAO? 1.00

01:38:49.000 He's just taking shots at everybody. 0.94

01:38:51.000 Now, I want to say this: that's what the internet does.

01:38:53.000 The estrogen thing, it's a woman insult. 1.00

01:38:57.000 Correct.

01:38:57.000 It means nothing to guys.

01:38:59.000 No.

01:39:00.000 So when these women are like, you know, when I was ma'am, I just want to make sure y'all understand this.

01:39:07.000 When I got very angry and was very vulgar in my insults to Candace Owens and I slammed my fist on the table, it's not estrogen that makes a man aggressive and unreasonable.

01:39:16.000 It's testosterone.

01:39:17.000 And testosterone also makes your hair fall out.

01:39:19.000 So the point is, it is this very female-coded thing to be like, you're very estrogen.

01:39:26.000 It's like, uh-huh.

01:39:28.000 Yeah.

01:39:28.000 Does that bother women when you say that to them?

01:39:30.000 Because, like, I don't think that works.

01:39:32.000 Sorry.

01:39:33.000 I'm like that token estrogen guy.

01:39:35.000 Yeah.

01:39:36.000 All right.

01:39:37.000 Eating lentils.

01:39:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:39.000 Give me that tofu.

01:39:41.000 All right. 0.93

01:39:41.000 I get called retarded all the time. 0.93

01:39:43.000 It doesn't bother me.

01:39:44.000 Just, yeah, seriously. 0.54

01:39:46.000 I call myself retarded. 0.96

01:39:47.000 Retarded?

01:39:48.000 I parted a vlog today because we went to the WPT, so I made a vlog.

01:39:53.000 Hey, we're having fun.

01:39:53.000 Go to YouTube.

01:39:54.000 It's at Tim Pool on YouTube and Rumble. 0.83

01:39:58.000 And the first thing I say as I open the video is, we're lost because we're retarded. 0.93

01:40:02.000 So once we figure out why we're retarded and lost, maybe then we'll figure out where to actually go. 0.88

01:40:06.000 I got no problems.

01:40:07.000 You saw what Elon said.

01:40:08.000 He goes, retarded has nothing to do with handicap or people. 1.00

01:40:11.000 It's actually people who are stupid. 1.00

01:40:14.000 I retard this show on purpose. 1.00

01:40:16.000 Like if it gets too fast, if you go too hard and do an idea too fast, I'll be like, Tim, stop.

01:40:21.000 Wait.

01:40:21.000 Come back.

01:40:22.000 Alex, slow it down.

01:40:24.000 That's part of why my like, I'll play devil's advocate. 0.97

01:40:27.000 I will retard you. 1.00

01:40:28.000 I thought retarded for Tim, whatever was the perfect word. 1.00

01:40:32.000 Ian is the meme where he's like, ha, jokes on you. 0.95

01:40:35.000 I was just pretending to be retarded. 0.99

01:40:37.000 We call them hard R retards. 1.00

01:40:40.000 All right, here we go.

01:40:41.000 Just David says, Graham on Timcast is an absolutely incredible site to see my two favorite shows of the day.

01:40:47.000 Yes.

01:40:47.000 Let's go.

01:40:49.000 All right. 0.95

01:40:50.000 Went from retarded to favorite show. 1.00

01:40:52.000 That's right. 0.88

01:40:53.000 That's wrong content.

01:40:54.000 I want one comment out of it.

01:40:55.000 It's all split in half.

01:40:57.000 It's just like, boom.

01:40:58.000 The Seth DM says, screw that other super chatter.

01:41:01.000 Rumble ranted. 1.00

01:41:02.000 Candace is a effing psycho. 1.00

01:41:04.000 Yes. 0.99

01:41:04.000 I'm not going to read the last word because the last word's very naughty. 0.99

01:41:09.000 All right.

01:41:10.000 Soupy.

01:41:11.000 Mr. Deera Merica himself on Timcast.

01:41:14.000 Man, this might end up being one of my favorite shows to date.

01:41:16.000 Love you both, Tim and Graham.

01:41:18.000 And side note, we bought our twin girls, brought our twin girls home from the Niku today.

01:41:24.000 There you go.

01:41:25.000 Congratulations.

01:41:27.000 Glad to hear that they're doing all right.

01:41:29.000 Mason M says, didn't she also insinuate you beat your wife over poker losses?

01:41:33.000 To be fair, I'm not going to play that game.

01:41:36.000 She didn't, she said, I'm like a guy who just lost 100 grand on poker and then comes home to beat his wife.

01:41:42.000 I am not your wife. 0.61

01:41:43.000 Don't take it out on me.

01:41:44.000 So that some people are saying, yo, she claimed that you spent 100 grand on poker and beat your wife. 0.99

01:41:50.000 And I was like, no, She didn't.

01:41:52.000 And I think the fact she's using the metaphor was clear.

01:41:55.000 Obviously, she's trying to attack my character, which I believe shows weakness in her arguments.

01:42:03.000 But I'm not going to pretend that she implied something else.

01:42:05.000 What I will say is this.

01:42:08.000 Fact.

01:42:08.000 I've seen the text.

01:42:09.000 Candace was saying she hated Charlie Kirk two months before he was murdered.

01:42:13.000 Okay, she was.

01:42:16.000 And there's more to that story.

01:42:18.000 And I just think the people who are having the conversation with me need to come out and say it.

01:42:22.000 A lot of people have sent me a lot of stories about Candace.

01:42:24.000 Some of them are very, very bad.

01:42:27.000 And I've not reported on them because it's more female-coded drama stuff.

01:42:31.000 Like, there's one story that a high-profile person sent me from a fundraiser where they're accusing her of doing bad mom things.

01:42:38.000 And I'm like, well, maybe if we were like, well, on Friday, we're having a conversation with House and Habit.

01:42:44.000 Maybe that's for them to talk about.

01:42:47.000 You know, I'm not going to get into that stuff.

01:42:49.000 I can also say that Candace has absolutely used the same security as Charlie.

01:42:54.000 There is a very simple and light way to explain it.

01:42:56.000 She worked with Turning Point.

01:42:58.000 She had the same security guys.

01:42:59.000 She was speaking at Turning Point events.

01:43:01.000 She had the same security guys.

01:43:03.000 I don't know why she's denying it.

01:43:04.000 That's the weirdest thing to deny it.

01:43:05.000 Well, there's also a big reason that Candace is using screenshots from so long ago from Charlie's original phone.

01:43:14.000 So the picture of Charlie, it's the same picture that I've got in mine.

01:43:19.000 It was his original phone.

01:43:21.000 If you look at all of the senators and congressmen and women that have screenshots from Charlie, the photos different and all this stuff, again, it makes you wonder how close was Charlie and Candace in the end, all this.

01:43:34.000 Did you see the text that Pastor Daryl Scott put out?

01:43:37.000 He goes, look, I've got more recent texts with Charlie than Candace does. 1.00

01:43:43.000 Because he knows that what she's saying is just all bullshit. 0.97

01:43:46.000 So I have on good authority that the people that Candace has been accusing of very serious crimes and malfeasance, she has personally worked with. 0.99

01:43:56.000 And I'm not the only one who knows this.

01:44:00.000 So we'll see.

01:44:01.000 I'm actually working on getting some of these people to come on the show and working on it.

01:44:05.000 The challenge is, however, that many of these people are, I probably shouldn't say this.

01:44:10.000 I'm going to say it anyway.

01:44:11.000 They are filing legal action against her.

01:44:13.000 And so their lawyers are basically saying, if you're going to file legal action, you can't do the press stuff.

01:44:18.000 I think that's why she's walking back after the Erica Kirk thing. 0.97

01:44:22.000 Yeah.

01:44:23.000 I mean, I think you were saying this.

01:44:25.000 Well, yeah.

01:44:26.000 Like I said, I truly believe that the meeting, and she admitted it.

01:44:31.000 Whether she did it on purpose or it slipped out in her show, she says, I haven't watched it.

01:44:36.000 Erica's lawyers did not fully convince me of something.

01:44:40.000 That means that Erica was there with her lawyers and Candace was there with her lawyers.

01:44:46.000 I'd have been recording it all.

01:44:47.000 That means not two girls trying to sit down. 0.73

01:44:53.000 No, it was arbitration.

01:44:55.000 I said from her statement Candace made last night, I said that does not sound like something Candace Owens writes.

01:45:02.000 That sounds like her and her attorneys crafted something to say to like push it out.

01:45:10.000 And again, I think what you're going to see is, you know, she's already walked back, as Tim put out.

01:45:16.000 Like, I jumped there.

01:45:18.000 I shouldn't have said this godforsaken organization.

01:45:20.000 But one of the worst things is what's damages.

01:45:23.000 That's what it is.

01:45:24.000 It's getting like justice for Trump.

01:45:26.000 If you start getting conspiracies that, oh, it wasn't Tommy Robinson, those lawyers for Tommy, for Robinson, not Tommy Robinson, but Tyler Robinson.

01:45:36.000 Those lawyers are going to come out and say, he didn't do it.

01:45:38.000 Look, Luke, we could show you reasonable doubt, reasonable doubt.

01:45:42.000 And this is the worst thing about it.

01:45:43.000 I think here's my speculation.

01:45:46.000 They sat down with her, and then Erica says, I want you to take a look at this, pulls out a folder, and then hands a piece of paper showing all of the refunds.

01:45:53.000 And then she goes, These are quantifiable damages for the statements that you have made.

01:46:00.000 It's going to be compounded with punitive damages.

01:46:02.000 And I think you were saying this that the meeting was probably not even that long.

01:46:06.000 I don't think it was four and a half hours.

01:46:08.000 I mean, I could admittedly, I could be wrong about that.

01:46:12.000 But I think it was a much quicker meeting than that.

01:46:16.000 I think it's funny that she's walking these things back.

01:46:19.000 She even tweeted, we don't think Tyler Robinson acted alone.

01:46:22.000 And people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

01:46:23.000 You were saying you didn't think he did it at all.

01:46:25.000 Now you're bringing it back.

01:46:26.000 And her own audience being like, what happened?

01:46:28.000 Well, Candace got scared.

01:46:30.000 Something in that meeting brought her, pulled her from the brink.

01:46:34.000 She's worried about something.

01:46:35.000 Yeah.

01:46:36.000 You know, money.

01:46:36.000 My ex-girlfriend felt the same way.

01:46:38.000 She's like, you mean, Mike, you don't think that somebody else was involved besides Tyler Robinson?

01:46:42.000 I said, no.

01:46:43.000 I'm like, the guy was on the roof.

01:46:44.000 And then how about the conspiracies?

01:46:46.000 They were like, oh, well, how did he take the gun apart?

01:46:49.000 He didn't take the gun apart.

01:46:50.000 Don't you see it?

01:46:51.000 He throws it over his shoulders.

01:46:52.000 He drops it down in the thing.

01:46:54.000 Where are these people coming up when he took the gun apart?

01:46:56.000 But I do think there was more than one person involved because there were tweets.

01:47:00.000 Oh, that's true.

01:47:02.000 They were tweets from people expressing what appeared to be foreknowledge of the assassination.

01:47:06.000 And these were trans lefty individuals on TikTok and Instagram and X. 0.97

01:47:11.000 And those questions have never been answered.

01:47:12.000 And the FBI said they were investigating that angle.

01:47:16.000 So the FBI right now is like, wow, there may have been people discussing this.

01:47:22.000 And they're looking into it.

01:47:23.000 I mean, that whole setup, though, you know how you being in the military, you know, you always want to be on higher ground.

01:47:28.000 Like, Charlie was down here, and all the rooftops, it was in like this encampment that goes down.

01:47:35.000 So like, it was just a setup.

01:47:37.000 It felt like a setup spot, kind of like when Trump got shot.

01:47:40.000 You're on higher ground.

01:47:41.000 You know, you're just Phoenix Ammunition shout out has been going off on the non on the people saying that it couldn't be a 30 out six.

01:47:49.000 Right, right, right.

01:47:50.000 And then he was like, I use a 380 and shot through pork shoulder like 15 times, including the bone.

01:47:57.000 It is easy to penetrate pork.

01:47:59.000 We don't know about the human body and whether, you know, what the load was, what kind of bullet it was.

01:48:03.000 That's going to come out trial.

01:48:05.000 Well, also people that have been doing these tests, they're not doing the angle that it would have come through as well.

01:48:10.000 They're doing straight-on shots and things.

01:48:12.000 I have one thing to say about this. 0.99

01:48:14.000 Bullets do weird shit. 0.99

01:48:16.000 All the time. 0.99

01:48:17.000 They do not just blow through everything.

01:48:20.000 As soon as a bullet comes in contact with like a human body, it's mostly water.

01:48:25.000 It's this gelatinous thing and then it hits bone.

01:48:28.000 Bullets do weird things.

01:48:29.000 Just because you think that a bullet should do something doesn't mean that that's what it's going to do.

01:48:35.000 And just because you think a bullet couldn't do what apparently it has done doesn't mean you're right. 0.99

01:48:41.000 Bullets do weird shit. 0.92

01:48:42.000 I got a buddy who's alive today in the Army. 0.99

01:48:45.000 Bullet shot right to his head, hit the bottom of his Kevlar, followed it all the way around and went out the back end of it.

01:48:54.000 He's alive today.

01:48:54.000 Just wouldn't have to be able to do it.

01:48:55.000 I've never watched the assassination.

01:48:58.000 I didn't want to watch it.

01:48:59.000 I've seen like slow-mos, and it does look like the bullet hits his chest and ricochets into his neck.

01:49:04.000 You know what Chuck Robbie?

01:49:06.000 I've never watched, I refuse to.

01:49:10.000 It was too emotional.

01:49:11.000 I said this right when it happened, that it looked right when the shot happened, I was like, downward angle.

01:49:18.000 It looks like it goes in and hits his vertebrae and then its angle is shifted downward.

01:49:24.000 You know, that's going to all be trial.

01:49:26.000 And that's not what now that is afterwards is what they're saying.

01:49:29.000 And I've even talked to a sniper trainer, former SEAL, who said the moment he saw the video, he said 30 out 6.

01:49:36.000 Graham, you know who Chuck Ritter is, right?

01:49:37.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 So this guy took a 7.62 by 54R round in the back, which is just about the same size.

01:49:44.000 It's a little bit smaller or a little bit smaller, but he took a round in the back and it didn't blow right through him, traveled right down his back, lodged next to his spine.

01:49:55.000 He actually died on the table like three or four times.

01:49:58.000 And he's been fighting with people on the internet because people are like, oh, of course, if you get shot with a 30-odd six, it's going to go right through you. 0.99

01:50:05.000 Bullets do weird shit, man. 0.96

01:50:07.000 They just do weird things. 0.99

01:50:08.000 Yeah, they do.

01:50:09.000 Let's grab some more.

01:50:10.000 We got bystander syndrome.

01:50:11.000 Oh, what's this?

01:50:12.000 He says, I like how Kang Dace low-key smuggled herself onto the Timmy Town Crier show. 1.00

01:50:18.000 It's almost like we get two Candace Owens shows every day. 0.95

01:50:21.000 I know.

01:50:21.000 I feel like we're doing a gossip show about a gossip show.

01:50:24.000 Not always, but sometimes I feel like.

01:50:25.000 We're talking so much about Candace, but it has to be said.

01:50:28.000 That's what that's sorry.

01:50:29.000 That's true, too.

01:50:30.000 There's so many people affected by it.

01:50:32.000 I reject this notion of like, oh, it's drama.

01:50:34.000 You shouldn't talk about it.

01:50:35.000 Prominent individuals leading political movements is what we talk about every day.

01:50:40.000 Correct.

01:50:40.000 When I criticize Chuck Schumer, people aren't going like, oh, it's drama.

01:50:44.000 When we talk about AOC again, oh, no.

01:50:48.000 Maxine Water is saying, confront them in the streets.

01:50:50.000 That's just drama.

01:50:52.000 Yeah, we talk about political people influencing the political.

01:50:54.000 If this was like Maxine Waters for 18 days in a row, I'd be like, oh, my God.

01:50:59.000 You mean Trump?

01:51:00.000 Nonstop all day every day.

01:51:02.000 There's not one person on the left that I would wish any bad thing about.

01:51:05.000 I mean, I could disagree with you, but I don't wish any bad thing about it.

01:51:09.000 Now, the closest I've ever come to wishing bad things about somebody is recently Candace because she's come out so hard against Jews and so awful, the awful thing she's doing.

01:51:19.000 I still don't wish I didn't.

01:51:20.000 I made a mistake praying for harm to come to a person in my life once, and it's like black magic.

01:51:24.000 It seemed to affect everyone in my life.

01:51:26.000 And like my mom, like everybody was starting to get sickened.

01:51:30.000 Like it was just like, it just hurts everything, including yourself, when you pray for ill to come onto another person.

01:51:36.000 Let me read this.

01:51:36.000 This is important.

01:51:37.000 At Sensored 86 says, I'm so blackpilled on politics and scared.

01:51:40.000 I'm 27 and getting married next year.

01:51:42.000 I make 50K, and I don't know how to provide a life for her and our future kids with that. 0.97

01:51:48.000 I can't find a job for my degree, mass communications.

01:51:51.000 Yo, we talked about this the other day.

01:51:53.000 Do you know how much money you need to make salary-wise to be the 1%?

01:51:57.000 Not much.

01:51:58.000 $1 million.

01:52:00.000 It used to be 10 years ago, 400.

01:52:02.000 15 years ago, it was like 220.

01:52:06.000 Inflation has gotten so insane.

01:52:08.000 50K a year is basically making 10K a year by 10 years ago standards.

01:52:13.000 I've been telling people all the time, like, I live by myself, and my bills are like $8,500, $9,000 a month.

01:52:19.000 And I live in a 2,100 square foot house.

01:52:22.000 And I'm like, how do people survive in the real world?

01:52:26.000 How does Vegas exist?

01:52:28.000 Exactly.

01:52:29.000 Bro, listen.

01:52:30.000 I go to the local casino by me.

01:52:32.000 No, I agree with you.

01:52:33.000 And you got $10 blackjack.

01:52:34.000 You got $10 games.

01:52:35.000 And even that's kind of like, man, if you're playing Mississippi Stud, it's $10.

01:52:39.000 You're spending $40 just to see one five-card hand.

01:52:43.000 And then I come to Vegas, and the first thing I see at the win is $100 blackjack tables.

01:52:48.000 I'm like, that's high limit by me.

01:52:51.000 How's the high limit, right?

01:52:52.000 So three years ago, four years ago, they started charging for parking, right?

01:52:56.000 Like $40.

01:52:57.000 I'm like, how can you ever charge for parking?

01:53:00.000 It's all about come in, valet's free, tip the valet.

01:53:03.000 If you want to be up top, you get 40 bucks.

01:53:06.000 Middle-class steak of $2.95 for a steak at the Binions Horse, you're up until 2010.

01:53:11.000 You can still get the steak and baked potato for $2.99 at midnight, right?

01:53:15.000 Now all of a sudden, it's insane, right?

01:53:18.000 So they were making like $22 million a month off the part.

01:53:21.000 They thought they're, oh, we've got the killer.

01:53:23.000 Now Vegas starts going like this because you know what?

01:53:26.000 The young girls that come up to go to the nightclubs, they don't have 40 bucks to park or go to for another 30 bucks. 1.00

01:53:34.000 Uber, Uber, Uber.

01:53:35.000 This is old people now. 1.00

01:53:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:36.000 We got this one.

01:53:37.000 This is True Crime Time says, turning on Tucker is the last nail in Tim's coffin.

01:53:42.000 Like, I don't want to turn on Tucker.

01:53:44.000 I want him to stop.

01:53:45.000 I'm confused about I'm in the coffin because people are turning on Tucker.

01:53:50.000 Is that the point?

01:53:51.000 I think they're saying you turning on Tucker.

01:53:53.000 Right, that doesn't make sense.

01:53:54.000 No, maybe a reward in the future.

01:53:57.000 If you turn on Tucker, that will become the final name.

01:54:00.000 Yeah, and I'm not even turning on Tucker.

01:54:02.000 My issue with Tucker is I believe Tucker wants to get so many answers.

01:54:07.000 I believe he's searching for a lot of answers spiritually as well.

01:54:11.000 I think so too.

01:54:12.000 But he has no filter for, is this something that I should put out right now in this environment in this time?

01:54:20.000 I didn't even say anything about Tucker.

01:54:21.000 I said the only criticism I have was these videos where he's acting like some people he interviewed.

01:54:25.000 He doesn't know.

01:54:25.000 But as I said, I'm sure he would answer that question if you asked him.

01:54:29.000 He's not doing what Candace is doing.

01:54:30.000 There's your problem.

01:54:31.000 You're not allowed to say anything that you can't say that you disagree with him.

01:54:34.000 That's why we're censoring.

01:54:37.000 We're censoring.

01:54:38.000 And we say we disagree with him.

01:54:39.000 I'm very close friends with Matt Brooks.

01:54:41.000 He's the head of the Republican Jewish Coalition.

01:54:44.000 And Tucker used to come to, they have this big thing here to raise money in November.

01:54:51.000 Trump would come.

01:54:52.000 Tucker would come.

01:54:53.000 And like, Tucker can't come anymore.

01:54:55.000 He's not because of the things he has said.

01:54:57.000 And do I think Tucker's anti-Semitic?

01:55:00.000 No.

01:55:01.000 But he's also smart.

01:55:02.000 And if he wants to come out and say Bibi Netanyahu, I disagree with fine.

01:55:06.000 But he keeps always saying the Jews, the Jews, the Jews.

01:55:09.000 He's supposed to say Zijus.

01:55:11.000 Yeah.

01:55:11.000 And it's just, and he knows what he's saying.

01:55:14.000 He's a smart guy.

01:55:15.000 He's one of the, he's smarter than all of us, I guarantee you.

01:55:17.000 Is he talking about international banking cartels when he says the Jews?

01:55:21.000 Because some people conflate that.

01:55:23.000 No, whenever something comes out, he's like, well, the Jews. 1.00

01:55:25.000 You know, it's like, if you, the thing is, one thing about Charlie had it right.

01:55:29.000 You know, he always talked that there's no Christianity without Judaism.

01:55:34.000 And he always talked about the Old Testament.

01:55:36.000 He always talked about keeping the Sabbath, right? 0.83

01:55:38.000 That's what, even though, like, I'm Jewish, I'm not on the Christian side, but I believe that it's possible that Jesus was son of God.

01:55:47.000 I'm not going to go against it.

01:55:48.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:55:49.000 So I did a poll, and it says, let's see, Candace is a clone or Candace got the call.

01:55:59.000 And Candace got the call wins with 59% with 7,963 votes. 1.00

01:56:04.000 David Brick and Super Chatted, I can't respond to your poll because both options are absurd.

01:56:08.000 It's time we all just tell the truth that she's an Argonian. 1.00

01:56:12.000 That's about her.

01:56:14.000 Oh, that's the lizard creature from Elder Scrolls, I think.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, they swim really fast.

01:56:22.000 Do they?

01:56:22.000 I think so, yeah.

01:56:23.000 Can they breathe underwater or something?

01:56:25.000 Candace?

01:56:26.000 Are you able to swallow water down that gland in the back of your throat and get the oxygen from it that way?

01:56:30.000 I do agree with Megan Kelly.

01:56:32.000 We do need Tucker in the conservative voice.

01:56:35.000 He's a very important part of the conservative voice.

01:56:37.000 And I just, I pray because I think he's a good man, that he could look back and realize some of the things that he's saying that even though he wants to say, I'm not anti-Semitic, you can't just keep saying that.

01:56:50.000 I'm going to turn on Tucker Crosser right now.

01:56:52.000 I'm going to criticize him very heavily.

01:56:53.000 He's too smart.

01:56:54.000 He's too smart and too good of a person.

01:56:56.000 Agree.

01:56:57.000 He's too smart.

01:57:00.000 You got to pull it back, Tucker.

01:57:01.000 Is it dangerous if your intelligence is too high but your wisdom is too low?

01:57:05.000 Can that be – because some people are like that.

01:57:07.000 Well, it depends.

01:57:07.000 Are you a – Are you a druid or a wizard?

01:57:10.000 Of course, if you're a wizard, it doesn't really matter where your wisdom is until someone's like, should you really be saying that right now?

01:57:15.000 And you're like, but I don't know.

01:57:16.000 It's true.

01:57:17.000 I mean, Tucker goes to Russia and he shows you how beautiful this is in Russia.

01:57:21.000 Why won't Tucker go?

01:57:22.000 Tucker, go to Israel.

01:57:23.000 Okay.

01:57:24.000 Go walk with Bibi Net and Yahoo.

01:57:26.000 Walk through the sites.

01:57:28.000 Watch how Israel is run. 0.91

01:57:30.000 See how Israel is not. 0.95

01:57:31.000 They don't separate all these different religions like Candace is saying.

01:57:35.000 Candace, go to Israel. 0.98

01:57:38.000 It was laughably absurd, the criticisms he got over his Russia and Putin interview.

01:57:42.000 That was insurd.

01:57:44.000 But I think it was fine.

01:57:46.000 You interview who you want to interview, and people were attacking him saying, don't interview Putin.

01:57:49.000 It's like, what?

01:57:51.000 No, no, no.

01:57:52.000 He should have.

01:57:54.000 He did well.

01:57:55.000 And Putin said a lot of things that showed the insight into Putin's worldview that I think were beneficial.

01:58:00.000 And we don't trust Putin.

01:58:01.000 So he can say what he wants, Tucker.

01:58:03.000 We take it with the greatest salt.

01:58:04.000 But he opines and he expresses things, and we get a glimpse into what he's doing and why he's doing it.

01:58:08.000 And then they attacked Tucker for doing it. 0.91

01:58:09.000 It was silly. 0.72

01:58:10.000 Now, going to the grocery stores and not really understanding that. 0.88

01:58:14.000 Well, he was trying to show, like, and this is where they say Trump's authoritarian.

01:58:19.000 Trump wants our country.

01:58:20.000 He wants us to walk down the street.

01:58:22.000 You know, you used to be able to walk down the strip and never have to worry about anything.

01:58:25.000 Now you walk down the strip, you're 50-50 to get mugged by somebody.

01:58:29.000 And that was never like that.

01:58:30.000 And Trump wants to see D.C. where everybody goes to visit the sites in D.C., the Capitol, the monument.

01:58:38.000 He doesn't want people to get mugged, you know?

01:58:40.000 And people who have been in D.C. said that the National Guard has really changed the landscape out there.

01:58:45.000 I have never, I don't know.

01:58:45.000 D.C. is a little bit there, right?

01:58:47.000 D.C.'s a crapshoot, dude.

01:58:48.000 Oh, man.

01:58:49.000 But it's better now, right?

01:58:50.000 With the National Guard?

01:58:51.000 Well, it was until the attack the other day.

01:58:53.000 Yeah, where they killed the one poor girl.

01:58:55.000 Jesus.

01:58:56.000 Yeah, and shout out to these Virginia Air Guard. 1.00

01:59:00.000 We live right over there.

01:59:02.000 And so there's a really great restaurant just off the, at the airport in Martinsburg.

01:59:07.000 And it's like one of the best breakfast spots.

01:59:09.000 When you order sausage, it's real farm sausage.

01:59:11.000 You can tell when they make it.

01:59:12.000 The patties.

01:59:13.000 It's amazing.

01:59:14.000 And you go in there on the right day and you'll see all the West Virginia Air Guard sitting there eating with their families.

01:59:19.000 And I have tremendous respect for these people.

01:59:22.000 And it's so cool to see the bombers, just like the jets.

01:59:25.000 You can see them from the window.

01:59:26.000 So this hits pretty close to home.

01:59:28.000 It was pretty devastating for the community that this kind of attack happened.

01:59:31.000 And the fact that these liberals attacked Trump and by proxy, these men and women saying they shouldn't have been out there in the first place and it wouldn't have happened.

01:59:39.000 And it's like the fact that it happened shows that Trump was right.

01:59:43.000 The violence has gotten to this point.

01:59:45.000 Okay.

01:59:45.000 The problem is not that National Guard they were patrolling.

01:59:49.000 The problem is that they're psychopaths killing people. 0.74

01:59:53.000 So, but that's all the good news is the young man, I guess, is recovering.

01:59:58.000 He's starting to walk again.

02:00:00.000 So, you know.

02:00:01.000 Thank God.

02:00:02.000 Absolutely.

02:00:03.000 All right.

02:00:04.000 Let's see.

02:00:05.000 Mark Gwedette says, Candace's husband is, what does it say?

02:00:09.000 M-N-I-6?

02:00:11.000 You mean M-I-6?

02:00:12.000 I have receipts.

02:00:13.000 I don't know.

02:00:14.000 I just know how does he not come out and say things?

02:00:17.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:00:18.000 I don't want to keep ganging up on Candace.

02:00:20.000 I just think that I want her to just be.

02:00:22.000 It is telling, though, that George doesn't say anything.

02:00:25.000 Anything.

02:00:26.000 Scary.

02:00:26.000 It's very, very, very telling.

02:00:28.000 Mark Blair says, Tim, would you address Pam Bondi and the DOJ defending the NFA and fighting to keep federal gun control in place?

02:00:35.000 Also claiming to be the most pro-Second Amendment DOJ in history. 0.98

02:00:39.000 Hypocrites. 0.97

02:00:40.000 Though I don't know if Pam Bondi ever came out and advocated for everyone to have guns. 0.98

02:00:45.000 But if that's the case, I mean, the Trump administration should not be defending the NFA.

02:00:49.000 The NFA is obviously unconstitutional.

02:00:52.000 It is an absurdity that we literally have an amendment that says shall not be infringed.

02:00:56.000 And they've literally infringed endlessly.

02:00:58.000 Because it's not just the NFA, it's also, what was the updated one in the 80s?

02:01:02.000 The Sportsman Protection Act had the Hughes Amendment, which outlawed the private possession of new manufactured machine guns.

02:01:11.000 I want a full-auto butterfly trigger 50 BMG on an APC in my rural backyard, and I just want to – and they can't tell me otherwise.

02:01:23.000 Apparently they can.

02:01:24.000 Did they say the NFA was because of the mob?

02:01:26.000 They were trying to combat the mob?

02:01:27.000 That's the history.

02:01:28.000 Basically, it was a Thompson.

02:01:30.000 And so they're having a difficult time with these gangsters robbing banks.

02:01:34.000 So they were like, we got to make it so you can't get it. 0.88

02:01:36.000 At the time, a $200 tax was prohibitive because it's ridiculous.

02:01:43.000 It was equivalent to $4,000.

02:01:45.000 They signed it the year after the business plot where they tried to have the coup.

02:01:49.000 The businessmen tried to march 400,000 soldiers on the Capitol with Smedley Butler and throw a fascist coup over them.

02:01:55.000 It's one year later.

02:01:56.000 They're trying to take the guns away from people next. 0.99

02:01:58.000 That's fucking crazy. 0.98

02:01:59.000 Yeah, allegedly, it was because of the machine guns, Tommy guns being used in Chicago and stuff like that. 0.99

02:02:05.000 That was the argument that was made.

02:02:06.000 The argument that because criminals do bad things, I can't have freedom is a wrong argument. 0.98

02:02:11.000 That's ridiculous, okay?

02:02:13.000 And there's a lot of things that fit the description. 0.95

02:02:15.000 Because I talk about that, I do believe in there's some limits, right?

02:02:19.000 We talked about this with Bonnie Blue.

02:02:20.000 She banged a thousand guys in 12 hours, and we asked if it be illegal. 1.00

02:02:24.000 I was the only one who said yes.

02:02:26.000 What happened to her in Ballet? 0.96

02:02:27.000 They really released her.

02:02:28.000 My point is...

02:02:30.000 It was kind of funny, though.

02:02:31.000 Adults can go do consenting adult things.

02:02:33.000 It's fine.

02:02:34.000 But a thousand people, I mean, there's an obscenity line where we're like, we don't want this to be pervasive in our society.

02:02:41.000 You have done something extreme and egregious, and there's a limit.

02:02:44.000 She publicized it, too.

02:02:45.000 That's a big difference than just doing it behind closed.

02:02:48.000 I mean, I have a couple of really close porn star friends, and they're really good people.

02:02:54.000 I'm just saying, a thousand people in 12 hours is where we're like, okay, we got to have a limit here.

02:02:59.000 Before you move on, if you're interested in something very similar to a machine gun, let me introduce you to forced reset triggers.

02:03:06.000 Yeah, but aren't they coming after those too?

02:03:07.000 No, the Supreme Court actually saw those.

02:03:09.000 I didn't buy one until the Supreme Court ruled on them.

02:03:11.000 What are those?

02:03:12.000 So basically, after the shot's fired, the trigger is forced to reset.

02:03:16.000 So if you're holding your finger back, it'll just keep pulling the trigger back.

02:03:19.000 But you feel the trigger move.

02:03:21.000 So it's actually actuating the reset.

02:03:24.000 So it just needs to be fully automatic.

02:03:26.000 Yeah, it's not fully automatic according to the very fast single fire.

02:03:32.000 I've never owned a gun or shot a gun because I knew I probably killed myself a thousand times already.

02:03:36.000 Glad you made that decision.

02:03:37.000 It's a good decision.

02:03:38.000 All right, everybody.

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02:03:50.000 The Andrew Tate fight is Saturday at 2 p.m. Exclusively on Rumble.

02:03:56.000 I am not going to miss this.

02:03:58.000 I'm rooting for Andrew Tate.

02:04:00.000 I understand there's a lot of criticism.

02:04:01.000 I've been critical of some of the things.

02:04:02.000 I'm who the guy's fighting is.

02:04:07.000 I want to see him win.

02:04:08.000 I want to see Andrew Tate win.

02:04:10.000 It is what it is.

02:04:12.000 You know, I really sometimes liked him a lot.

02:04:14.000 And then I start to realize because I can read through people.

02:04:18.000 He's got a little griff to himself.

02:04:20.000 Sure.

02:04:21.000 You know, he made a lot of money in crypto, but he said some things that I think are good.

02:04:25.000 He has this speech that went viral where he said, a rocket going to the moon doesn't stop halfway and take a break.

02:04:30.000 You can't take a break.

02:04:31.000 You've got to keep grinding.

02:04:32.000 You work harder than you've ever worked.

02:04:33.000 And I think that's a good message.

02:04:34.000 That's what I do respect about when I say these things.

02:04:36.000 And the funny point about how when you're rich, all you end up doing is looking for a better steak.

02:04:41.000 Like the point he was making.

02:04:42.000 You can have a better steak.

02:04:43.000 I've got the steakhouse for you while you're in there.

02:04:45.000 All right.

02:04:45.000 Well, we'll get that going.

02:04:47.000 But his point ultimately is like, it's not all about the money.

02:04:50.000 There's a mission that people are on.

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02:05:10.000 Right on.

02:05:11.000 Mike?

02:05:11.000 Well, if you want to play poker, go to club WPT Gold promo code Mouth, and you could get on there and play for small stakes, for free stakes.

02:05:23.000 And if you want to see the best poker documentary ever, you could go to Amazon Prime, which is my poker documentary called Mataso M-A-T-U-S-O-W.

02:05:32.000 I promise you, it will be the best documentary you've ever seen.

02:05:35.000 I've had people come up to me and ask me about you because of how entertained by the documentary they were.

02:05:41.000 I just had a woman when I was leaving crying on my shoulder. 1.00

02:05:44.000 She watched my documentary seven times.

02:05:46.000 Wow.

02:05:47.000 She said, what you did to me was so inspiring.

02:05:49.000 And it really, I wanted to bring it up here because I said, it touched my heart because I know what I went through.

02:05:57.000 I know what I go through.

02:05:58.000 And for somebody to, she was crying, literally.

02:06:03.000 And this happened at the World Series back in May.

02:06:05.000 I had people come up to me crying.

02:06:07.000 They love my documentary and stuff.

02:06:08.000 So, you know, the thing about my documentary, there's nothing, there's very little poker in it.

02:06:14.000 It shows basically what some poker, what we go through at the World Series, how taxing it is on us to play a full-time tournament schedule.

02:06:22.000 And it shows you what I've been through since my injury and how hard it is for me to get out of bed every day to come, even to come here and the pain I deal with.

02:06:31.000 And so I think you'll enjoy it.

02:06:32.000 So that's Mattison.

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02:06:36.000 It's Mattiso on Amazon.

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02:11:46.000 Hey, you're going?

02:11:48.000 You know what we're going to talk about?

02:11:50.000 What's going on, guys?

02:11:52.000 We're doing the after show.

02:11:53.000 Things are a little crazy here.

02:11:56.000 Hugging and yeah, I mean, people saying good luck running out.

02:12:00.000 Hello.

02:12:01.000 You know.

02:12:03.000 Here with Mike Mataso.

02:12:04.000 What was that?

02:12:04.000 Oh, here with Mike Mataso.

02:12:05.000 Yeah, we're here with Mike Mattis.

02:12:06.000 Graham Allen's at the door still.

02:12:09.000 We're going to actually just jump right into your Discord questions.

02:12:14.000 So if you guys want to go ahead and get your questions up, I think that Serge has them ready.

02:12:19.000 Let me see here.

02:12:22.000 You can say wherever you're going.

02:12:23.000 It's fine.

02:12:24.000 Yeah, he already has the camera set up.

02:12:25.000 Yeah, I want to know before we get started, okay, Knit is somebody in poker that just sits and just folds, folds.

02:12:30.000 Knit is a guy who sits at the table, folds and folds, and waits for H's and Kings.

02:12:34.000 An Ace King, right?

02:12:36.000 Me, I got to pound the water, man.

02:12:40.000 There's two ways to play poker.

02:12:42.000 You could play lots and lots of hands, and then when you make a hand, you get paid because everybody thinks you never have anything because you're in a lot of hands.

02:12:50.000 Or you could play like a knit and play super tight, and then everybody's like, oh, Mike's a knit.

02:12:56.000 But the thing is, is I give, I pretend like I'm a knit for the first hour, hour and a half.

02:13:02.000 And then when I rip it on them and bluff them, they never see it.

02:13:07.000 And they just say, oh, Mike always has it.

02:13:08.000 Mike always has it.

02:13:09.000 So it's like, what's easier to win at poker?

02:13:12.000 Is it easier to make hands?

02:13:13.000 It's tough to make hands, right?

02:13:15.000 Or is it easier to pretend like you're a tight player?

02:13:18.000 And then once you make hands, then it allows you to bluff more.

02:13:23.000 And then you just mock when you bluff.

02:13:25.000 They don't even know what you're talking about.

02:13:25.000 No, because you're like, oh, Mike has to have it.

02:13:27.000 He just plays like a knit.

02:13:28.000 He has to have it.

02:13:29.000 And they'll fold like two pair to me.

02:13:31.000 Do you find that knits are just boring for TV?

02:13:34.000 But the thing is, if everybody's playing tight, you play loose.

02:13:40.000 If everybody's playing loose, you play tight, right?

02:13:43.000 That's just the way it is.

02:13:46.000 And you have to adjust.

02:13:49.000 You have to adjust to the game.

02:13:50.000 There's certain games that the first thing I do when I sit down in a game, if there's people I don't know, is I spent 30 minutes just watching them.

02:13:59.000 Now I'm talking, trying to become their friends and being nice to them, everybody.

02:14:02.000 But as I'm doing it, I'm watching their hands.

02:14:04.000 I'm watching their eyes.

02:14:05.000 I'm watching how they react to each flop because I truly believe live poker is a pure form of poker.

02:14:13.000 There's no GTO or game theory or any type of solver that's going to teach you how to read people.

02:14:21.000 And the reason why I'm still winning without studying solvers and GTO is because I'm great at reading people.

02:14:29.000 What are solvers?

02:14:30.000 Solvers, you put every hand into a computer.

02:14:36.000 The computer then tells you what hands you should play in what position by your stack size.

02:14:43.000 So if you have, let's just say you're playing a tournament and you have 20 big blinds left.

02:14:49.000 The solver tells you when to jam on somebody, what hands to open with, what hands you don't call with each side.

02:14:58.000 So what people are doing is they're memorizing what the computer solver tells them to do.

02:15:03.000 And then they use something called game theory optimal, GTO, and the GTO tells you these are the hands you play, these are the hands you fold.

02:15:12.000 It's all connected.

02:15:14.000 Now, the best players in the world, they use GTO, solver, and the reading ability, right?

02:15:24.000 And I credit that person to me is Jason Kuhn.

02:15:28.000 And he's the nicest guy in the world.

02:15:31.000 And he's learned how to apply the solver GTO into the game, where most people, like, let's just say you know nothing about poker, but you go and get a course on poker and GTO, right?

02:15:46.000 You will be a break-even or winning poker player, okay?

02:15:50.000 With no talent, okay?

02:15:52.000 But that's not going to bring you from here to here.

02:15:54.000 That's going to make you $10,000 a year, $10,000 a month, I mean, with no talent, you know?

02:16:02.000 And that's a lot of money in the real world.

02:16:04.000 And then do they, I want to get to callers.

02:16:05.000 The last question, when you say they put them all three together, the, was it GTO?

02:16:10.000 GTO solver and reading people?

02:16:12.000 Do you get to the point where people are?

02:16:12.000 There's only five people in the world that are able to really do all three.

02:16:15.000 Do you get so good that you're like, he's running a solver right now, I can tell.

02:16:18.000 Well, you know, there's people at that, they outlawed last year, like if you're caught with people are going on their phones and running solvers while they're in, like in between hands, and you're automatically disqualified from the tournament now.

02:16:31.000 I couldn't even imagine like getting on a phone and running a solver to see what I should do with my stack size.

02:16:39.000 I mean, like, that's not, the game is supposed to be fun.

02:16:42.000 It's not supposed to be like, that's why the computer nerds, they don't get invited to the good cash games because nobody wants to see somebody at the table that's playing like a computer nerd and not talking and not being fun for the fish.

02:16:54.000 You know, why do I get invited?

02:16:56.000 I'm fun.

02:16:57.000 I make everybody laugh.

02:16:58.000 I make fun of people.

02:17:02.000 You got to do one of two things.

02:17:03.000 You either have to give a lot of action or make people laugh.

02:17:06.000 I make people laugh.

02:17:08.000 That's what I try and do.

02:17:10.000 We'll go for hours, man.

02:17:11.000 Thanks.

02:17:12.000 We're going to go to callers now.

02:17:13.000 We got, let's see, Patrick of Pecan Pie.

02:17:18.000 What's going on, man?

02:17:21.000 Nothing much.

02:17:22.000 Merry Christmas.

02:17:23.000 How's everyone doing?

02:17:24.000 Hey, Merry Christmas, man.

02:17:25.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:17:28.000 So I have a question.

02:17:29.000 How does someone that is out in public with a gun and shoots a whole bunch of people at university, which is highly surveilled with lots of cameras?

02:17:39.000 How does something like that occur and gets away?

02:17:42.000 It just seems to me like it's highly improbable in today's society that someone could do something like this with security and everything else that campuses have.

02:17:50.000 How can we prevent this from happening in the future?

02:17:53.000 Well, I mean, when it comes to how do you prevent it in the future, I mean, security is never perfect.

02:17:59.000 I think they got the surveillance.

02:18:00.000 They're just not releasing it.

02:18:01.000 They're trying to go slowly.

02:18:04.000 I think that's just like they did with the Charlie Kirk assassin.

02:18:06.000 I think they know who it is and they can't.

02:18:09.000 They're not letting it.

02:18:10.000 Are you referring to the Charlie Kirk stuff or are you referring to Brown?

02:18:13.000 Brown Brown either. 0.60

02:18:15.000 Yeah, like I agree with Mike.

02:18:17.000 I think that they probably got pictures.

02:18:18.000 They're just not releasing them yet.

02:18:20.000 But especially a university like Brown.

02:18:24.000 Well, there's also no utopian society.

02:18:27.000 And so gun restrictions and things like this is not the answer.

02:18:32.000 And even if you put armed military on the campus, we just saw it in DC, bad things are still going to happen.

02:18:41.000 And so a deterrent for evil is not to restrict freedoms of law-abiding citizens.

02:18:48.000 And even then, evil's still going to do evil things no matter what.

02:18:53.000 And so what is the answer?

02:18:56.000 You can always add more deterrents, but there's always going to be evil.

02:18:59.000 And they're always going to do evil things.

02:19:01.000 To Graham's point, like in prison, people are stabbing each other.

02:19:05.000 And they have no privacy.

02:19:08.000 They get their cells searched all the time.

02:19:13.000 Military bases have real tight security.

02:19:15.000 Military bases in Afghanistan had real tight security, and there were still dudes getting on to bases with carve arms and stuff.

02:19:21.000 So there's no universe where you get 100% perfect, secure location that is totally impregnable.

02:19:29.000 Like you just can't do it.

02:19:32.000 And to Mike's point, it's likely they have pictures.

02:19:36.000 It's likely they have some kind of surveillance of them.

02:19:39.000 As to whether or not they know where the guy is, that's up in the air.

02:19:43.000 But we'll see how that pans out.

02:19:47.000 Does that answer your question?

02:19:49.000 Sort of kind of just to me, how did this person get away?

02:19:53.000 I don't think he's going to be able to do that.

02:19:54.000 People can watch him and stalk him.

02:19:58.000 I'd like to make a bet that he's arrested within the next five days.

02:20:01.000 I would be shocked if it was more than that.

02:20:03.000 Yeah.

02:20:03.000 I mean, it might be that they just haven't picked him up yet.

02:20:07.000 You look at the Luigi Mangioni guy.

02:20:10.000 They picked him up a couple days later.

02:20:12.000 The guy that, you know, the kid that's accused of killing Charlie Kirk, that Tyler kid, like, he got turned in within two days.

02:20:20.000 You know, so look, it just happened over the weekend.

02:20:24.000 Today's Tuesday.

02:20:26.000 You know, you've got to give him a little bit of time to actually do the police work.

02:20:32.000 But I don't know.

02:20:33.000 You know, I don't know that he's going to get away.

02:20:37.000 I think that it'll take a little time to find him, though.

02:20:40.000 You got anything you want to shout out?

02:20:43.000 No, just Discord.

02:20:45.000 You know, it's a great community.

02:20:46.000 We love people to get around.

02:20:48.000 And I've been doing the morning show.

02:20:51.000 We showcase Casper Coffee every morning and we discover what's going on.

02:20:55.000 Awesome.

02:20:55.000 So we love people that are coming and hang out.

02:20:57.000 And I appreciate you guys answering my question.

02:21:00.000 Appreciate it, man.

02:21:00.000 Thank you very much.

02:21:02.000 All right.

02:21:02.000 Let's see.

02:21:03.000 We got to go with Plastic Cup Politics here.

02:21:06.000 Yeah.

02:21:07.000 Plastic Cup Politics.

02:21:08.000 You're on.

02:21:09.000 Hey, guys.

02:21:10.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:21:11.000 You know, I drop a question to talk to Graham a little bit.

02:21:14.000 And it turns out we got Mike the Mouth, who's base as hell.

02:21:18.000 This is the coolest thing that's happened to me all week.

02:21:20.000 All right, man.

02:21:22.000 Well, first and foremost, Graham, condolences on the loss of your brother in Christ.

02:21:29.000 The video that you put out reporting it was one of the most powerful things I've ever seen.

02:21:34.000 So I just want to say thank you for putting that out there, being vulnerable and keeping us all informed.

02:21:40.000 But on that topic, I wanted to I've connected a few dots.

02:21:45.000 It's kind of crazy.

02:21:47.000 I wanted to get you guys' take on it.

02:21:49.000 So Tim put out a video a couple weeks ago about AI's influence on the real world.

02:21:56.000 You know, how they tried to get him to shut down his company and sell his property.

02:22:00.000 We also know AI has encouraged people to commit suicide.

02:22:04.000 So Turkey Tom put out a video about the inner gaming circle.

02:22:11.000 And he said Lance Twiggs would be on Chat GPT for days on end.

02:22:17.000 So I've kind of connected those dots.

02:22:20.000 And I'm thinking, how do you think our government would respond if they found out that somehow AI was culpable in encouraging the assassination of Charlie Kirk?

02:22:32.000 Even, you know, it's vital to national security.

02:22:35.000 I don't believe that.

02:22:37.000 I believe that he really believed some of the videos that he saw about trans people.

02:22:45.000 And the thing was, Charlie doesn't hate, they never hated trans people.

02:22:49.000 He would always explain why.

02:22:52.000 And it's just a fact.

02:22:53.000 It's like, if you want to be trans, you could be my best friend next to me, but you can't push it.

02:23:00.000 You're what you want to be.

02:23:02.000 It's not reality.

02:23:03.000 Like, you're a man that wants to be a woman. 0.99

02:23:06.000 I'm happy for you, but you're still a man.

02:23:08.000 And I don't, I think that he took it as, I mean, he said it.

02:23:13.000 We're going to see all the tech.

02:23:15.000 That's why I was so against Candace Owens. 1.00

02:23:17.000 You're going to see all these texts that they have that's going to come that's going to prove that he did it, you know?

02:23:24.000 Yeah.

02:23:24.000 So to the AI quit, well, first of all, thank you for saying that.

02:23:28.000 Those videos were literally in real time.

02:23:33.000 A lot of people don't know this.

02:23:34.000 I was on the phone.

02:23:36.000 with Turning Point when the whole Charlie thing went down.

02:23:40.000 And so we were having a discussion about, you know, future and marketings and stuff like that.

02:23:47.000 And, you know, I'll never forget that phone call.

02:23:50.000 You know, everybody started sounding really distracted and they're like, Graham, hold on.

02:23:54.000 Something's going on.

02:23:55.000 Just hang on one second.

02:23:56.000 And they're like, oh, something happened at one of our events.

02:24:00.000 Graham, it's something to do with Charlie.

02:24:04.000 We don't know what's going on.

02:24:05.000 And so we said, okay, well, let's end the meeting.

02:24:08.000 I'll tap all my resources.

02:24:10.000 You tap all your resources.

02:24:11.000 And then first one to find out.

02:24:14.000 And so that first video where I asked everybody to pray, I mean, that was a real in-the-moment thing because all we heard was he had been shot.

02:24:24.000 And then, you know, I saw the video.

02:24:25.000 Everybody else saw it.

02:24:26.000 I've never watched it.

02:24:28.000 I couldn't.

02:24:29.000 I couldn't.

02:24:29.000 Well, anybody that's ever, anybody that's ever been a part of the military or police or anything, I knew as soon as I saw the video.

02:24:39.000 I saw the reports of people like, they got a pulse.

02:24:43.000 There's no way.

02:24:44.000 And so anyway, I appreciate you saying that.

02:24:45.000 Back to the point about AI.

02:24:47.000 I think AI is something that is here and it's not going anywhere.

02:24:53.000 And it's going to transform our entire world.

02:24:55.000 It already is.

02:24:56.000 I think we got to invest in it.

02:24:58.000 I think it's going to transform the entire world.

02:25:01.000 And so I think even if they did find out something like that, not saying that it did, I think it would just be, you know, it's a glitch in the system.

02:25:09.000 They're working the kinks out.

02:25:11.000 They're just going to keep on rocking.

02:25:12.000 AI is not going anywhere.

02:25:14.000 AI is here and it's here to stay.

02:25:17.000 And the advances from a year ago to now, I mean, it's insane.

02:25:22.000 And so I think 10 years from now, we're not even going to really recognize.

02:25:27.000 AI figured out what was wrong with me when I've been dealing with all this pain in the last four years.

02:25:33.000 Yeah, because like somebody brought up to me, like, I think you might have pelvic floor dysfunction, right?

02:25:39.000 So now I start putting in all my symptoms, like everything that when does it hurt worse?

02:25:44.000 And then it just everything kept coming back.

02:25:46.000 This is what you have.

02:25:48.000 And then you 100% have it, right?

02:25:52.000 And no doctor for four years could figure out why I was getting pain in my knee and pain in my hip.

02:25:57.000 Sure enough, I'm getting better.

02:25:59.000 Graham, I want to ask you, actually, you mentioned about, I don't remember exactly what you were talking about, but you mentioned school and how your kids are going to have to deal with going to school and stuff.

02:26:09.000 What are your thoughts about the future of school for kids when it comes to AI?

02:26:15.000 Because I know now if you want to homeschool your kids, you can buy curriculum.

02:26:20.000 And I imagine in the next, I'm thinking in the next few years, you're going to be able to have an AI that you purchase so you'll know what kind of AI is, what kind of teaching it's going to be.

02:26:31.000 I think doctors are going to be completely, regular doctors that you go to for a doctor visit to check up how you're doing are going to be obsolete.

02:26:37.000 Yeah, but I mean, the reason I ask is because I just had a kid.

02:26:39.000 Oh, yeah.

02:26:40.000 I just had my first kid.

02:26:41.000 I got four.

02:26:42.000 He's two months old now.

02:26:43.000 Wow.

02:26:44.000 And I'm honestly hoping that there's an AI that I can purchase so I don't have that I can I know the curriculum he's going to be learning. 1.00

02:26:51.000 So I don't have to send my kid to the government school that's going to, you know, that possibly is going to be, you know, trying to fill their head and dock some crazy LGBT shit, you know? 1.00

02:26:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:26:59.000 Well, I, you know, I actually, I actually had a conversation with AI to find out the answer to this. 0.99

02:27:06.000 I have a conversation with AI every day.

02:27:08.000 Well, but I was specifically asking about, we had had a conversation on the show about college.

02:27:15.000 And I am in the position of, unless it's a very specific degree you're going for, 95% of college degrees are worthless.

02:27:27.000 That's my stance.

02:27:28.000 A lot of people disagree.

02:27:29.000 Mostly the people that have those worthless degrees that I'm talking about, they get real upset.

02:27:34.000 But, you know, I asked, Chat GBT, I was like, hey, what are the laws on you?

02:27:42.000 Because, you know, the one thing I've always hated is all I always hated was writing papers.

02:27:46.000 And ironically, I got book number three getting ready to come out.

02:27:49.000 But either way, you know, I was like, what are the laws about using Chat GPT or AI to help with writing papers?

02:27:56.000 You know, because when you go to college.

02:27:58.000 That's going to happen.

02:27:59.000 That's what's going to happen.

02:28:00.000 Well, when you go to college, you got to learn AP writing style.

02:28:03.000 If you go to seminary, they've got a whole different theological dissertation, paper styles, and all this.

02:28:10.000 And I said, so what are the rules?

02:28:12.000 So the rules are that essentially you can just brain dump now.

02:28:17.000 Like you can just brain dump whatever it is that you think about this.

02:28:21.000 And then you can copy it, paste it, and say, I need this in AP writing format.

02:28:27.000 I need you to find cited things to put in it for me and make it grammatically correct.

02:28:34.000 And it'll do it.

02:28:35.000 And apparently that's okay.

02:28:37.000 Like apparently, apparently that is perfectly fine.

02:28:40.000 And so I think AI is going to put a lot of colleges in a lot of problems.

02:28:44.000 I think you're going to see even more surging online, even more than it is right now.

02:28:51.000 But back to the, you know, outside of college side, I don't know, man.

02:28:56.000 I know that maybe so.

02:28:58.000 I know what we did is we got with a teacher who had been in teaching for 30 years and hated the way the system was in the indoctrination.

02:29:08.000 And we kind of met with her and we're like, hey, we can't put our kids in school.

02:29:13.000 Do we want to kind of create like this homeschool hybrid kind of thing?

02:29:18.000 And so that's what we did.

02:29:20.000 And so our kids go to school four days a week in an undisclosed location.

02:29:24.000 And, you know, and now it's turned into, it started with four families and now it's like 150 kids that go there now.

02:29:33.000 And so I think you as parents and people watching and listening as parents, you've got all the power in the world, man.

02:29:40.000 We did the same thing with our doctors.

02:29:42.000 So one of the families that go to this school is a doctor. 0.57

02:29:46.000 He was tired of the big pharma middleman crap and wanted to go direct to care for families. 0.57

02:29:52.000 And so we did. 0.98

02:29:53.000 It's 300 bucks a month directly to that doctor.

02:29:57.000 No insurances involved, no nothing.

02:29:59.000 I can text my doctor right now.

02:30:03.000 And if I need something, he can call in something here while I'm there.

02:30:07.000 He knows our names.

02:30:08.000 He knows our kids.

02:30:09.000 He knows what our problems are.

02:30:11.000 The average, we're really going on a tangent now.

02:30:13.000 That's right.

02:30:14.000 An average doctor in the big, big pharma healthcare system has 2,000 patients.

02:30:21.000 Our doctor is tapped out at 600, you know, kind of thing.

02:30:24.000 So you see the drastic difference there.

02:30:26.000 So that's why when you go to these big, you know, big pharma-controlled doctors' offices, hospitals, et cetera, they got to pull the computer up first to even figure out who you are because they have no clue.

02:30:39.000 And so you've got all the power to take everything back.

02:30:43.000 You just have to be willing to do it.

02:30:44.000 Awesome.

02:30:45.000 Plastic Cup Politics.

02:30:47.000 Does that answer your question?

02:30:48.000 You got anything you want to shout out?

02:30:49.000 Yeah, I'm just really curious to see when the trial actually happens, whether or not Lance Twiggs turned state's evidence because we all assume he's in witness protection right now.

02:31:00.000 If it turns out that he has nothing to do with the prosecution at all, I'd be very curious as to why he disappeared.

02:31:06.000 So definitely paying attention for that.

02:31:08.000 But thanks for taking my call, guys.

02:31:09.000 If I may do some shameless self-promotion, thank you for small YouTube channel, Twitter, Plastic Cup Politics, where I do debates, a Trump hating TDS friend of 30 years.

02:31:22.000 We got a January 6th video that's already up.

02:31:24.000 I'm editing our immigration video as we speak.

02:31:27.000 But I also did a video for Charlie Kirk based off of all the independent media's responses on that fateful day.

02:31:36.000 the follow-up.

02:31:37.000 So I got Graham in there.

02:31:38.000 I got Benny in there.

02:31:39.000 A little bit of Tim, a little bit of Phil, a lot of Poso, a lot of Erica.

02:31:43.000 It's pretty inspiring.

02:31:45.000 And I think it's pretty powerful centered around Brand's comments.

02:31:49.000 So I'd appreciate it if everyone go check that out.

02:31:51.000 Plastic Cup Politics, pinned tweet, and also on YouTube.

02:31:54.000 Awesome, guys.

02:31:55.000 Thank you for coming in.

02:31:56.000 Thank you.

02:31:57.000 All right.

02:31:58.000 We're going to go to, who is this?

02:32:00.000 This is Super Patriot.

02:32:03.000 What's going on, Super Patriot?

02:32:05.000 Hey, how are you guys doing tonight?

02:32:07.000 Merry Christmas to y'all.

02:32:08.000 Merry Christmas, man.

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02:32:29.000 Very good.

02:32:30.000 Good stuff.

02:32:31.000 My question is, how many correlations and similarities are you guys seeing between the JFK assassination conspiracy theorists and those who are believing the conspiracies that Candace is pushing?

02:32:43.000 And why do you think they are so easily manipulated by them?

02:32:48.000 Well, I'm going to first say that the JFK, I don't believe, I think it was a complete cover-up.

02:32:53.000 I mean, it's been proven that it was.

02:32:58.000 When Trump got in back in, they put out the JFK files to prove that the CIA was involved in killing JFK, where there's, we have one guy climbing off the roof and they have his prints on the gun and his father, I mean, his father turned him in and they've got all the text.

02:33:20.000 And I don't know where the conspiracy is coming from.

02:33:24.000 I mean, could there have been another shooter?

02:33:26.000 It's possible.

02:33:28.000 I've told my ex-girlfriend this, I'm like, come on.

02:33:30.000 I'm like, the guy's admitted to it.

02:33:33.000 It's a one-person shooter.

02:33:34.000 The guy was shooting guns since he was 12 years old.

02:33:37.000 They have videos.

02:33:38.000 The guy's a sharpshooter.

02:33:39.000 You know, that's just what I just believe.

02:33:41.000 Anybody thinking it's anything but Tyler Robinson?

02:33:44.000 I just think that they're just very easily manipulated by craziness of Candace Owens. 1.00

02:33:49.000 The correlation that I see between it all is due to Candace.

02:33:54.000 And what I mean by that is, like, I truly believe that no matter what, no matter what comes out in the trial, which Erica has already said, it's going to be a year from now, possibly 27, you know, before this trial actually happens.

02:34:08.000 I think it'll be next year.

02:34:11.000 I think Candace has done so much damage that I don't think it matters what happens in that courtroom.

02:34:19.000 I don't think it matters what evidence is shown if we're allowed to have cameras in there, which that judge, to my knowledge, still hasn't made that decision yet.

02:34:27.000 She said whatever Erica wants.

02:34:29.000 But I think that's the correlation I see.

02:34:33.000 And what ticks me off more than anything that Candace has done, and I've said this on the show, is that Charlie Kirk forever will be considered just like JFK, no matter what evidence.

02:34:44.000 I said he'll be aware of that.

02:34:46.000 And Candace Owens' face will be right next to Charlie Kirk for forever.

02:34:52.000 Well, his wife will be, but you will not be able to mention Charlie Kirk without this Candace Owens thing that has happened. 0.98

02:35:00.000 And that's what makes me upset about it.

02:35:02.000 She's walking it back now because she had, I mean, just what she did today tells you that it's going to be backed off.

02:35:10.000 But her supporters turning on her because of it. 0.98

02:35:15.000 Back to my point, I think the damage is already done.

02:35:17.000 I hope to God.

02:35:18.000 I think that's it.

02:35:19.000 I think Charlie Kirk is JFK because of Candace Owens. 0.62

02:35:23.000 That's what I think.

02:35:24.000 That makes sense.

02:35:24.000 There was a bunch of people right after Charlie was shot that were using terminology of they killed Charlie Kirk and using that word they hate that.

02:35:32.000 That sparks conspiracy theorists mindset and maybe people were.

02:35:36.000 We said it on the show tonight a couple times and I was trying to.

02:35:38.000 I wanted to walk it back because I'm like they.

02:35:41.000 When I say they it's it's, it's the media, the media making Charlie out to be somebody he wasn't, so that when I say they killed him, it's I, it's the media, but when?

02:35:53.000 But there's only one person that killed him and there's a possibility that there was a collusion in like discord chats or like a group of people that were like yeah let's, lots of people wanted to kill him.

02:36:01.000 He had the heart.

02:36:02.000 That's why he had high security at every event.

02:36:04.000 There might have been a they, but without evidence to say they killed Charlie Kirk.

02:36:07.000 Especially if you're on a news show and you say it out loud and people believe you, they're gonna start thinking like well, who is they?

02:36:12.000 Yeah, I look, I don't see a significant correlation between JFK and Charlie Kirk.

02:36:19.000 The evidence is very strong that it was Tyler Robinson.

02:36:24.000 They've got his DNA on the bullets.

02:36:25.000 They got his DNA on the gun.

02:36:27.000 His family turned him in.

02:36:29.000 He mentioned multiple times that he did it smiling in the courtroom.

02:36:35.000 Yeah, but you know, you see that smile.

02:36:37.000 But I heard I don't know if it's true, but that there's not a day goes by that he doesn't think.

02:36:41.000 Well that's, that's one of the things that he's alleged to be bad, that's one of the things that he's alleged to have said.

02:36:45.000 That's what the lip breeder signs yeah yeah, but like I don't, I don't see a significant correlation.

02:36:50.000 I mean, whatever you think about the JFK killing, you know whether, whether or not you believe it was CIA, I think that that was.

02:36:59.000 You know, I don't believe that was.

02:37:01.000 I think it was Lee Harvey Oswald.

02:37:03.000 He'd gone to Cuba and he'd met with communists.

02:37:05.000 He was a communist and JFK was pretty stern on on the Soviet Union and pretty pro the United States, pretty anti-communist.

02:37:15.000 So I think that that's all.

02:37:16.000 But I don't, I don't think it was.

02:37:19.000 As far as you know, as far as I'm concerned, there's not a real big, there's not a lot of conspiracy between the two of them.

02:37:27.000 But I mean look, there are people that that give me hell and say oh, you know, you're just a normie, but I think a lot of why you're you're seeing the conspiracy stuff now is because so many people are so skeptical of any official narrative, because of what the government did during COVID exactly.

02:37:41.000 You know the, the BS that we had to put up with, the masking for no reason, the social distancing saying mask, they don't that, they don't, they're worthless.

02:37:53.000 They rub that whole video off.

02:37:54.000 In the very beginning, the re like they, they were saying no, don't mask.

02:37:58.000 And then when they were worried about doctors having enough ppe, then they start they were saying don't mask at all and then, once they realized that the doctors would have enough ppe, they're like, oh yeah, now you have to mask and and so it was.

02:38:09.000 It was too many lies from the, the government, from the official, You know, the official people for the American people to stand it.

02:38:19.000 And what happened was people are like, got to the point where they're like, you're not going to take me again.

02:38:23.000 So if I just default to not believing whatever the official narrative is, I'll probably be right.

02:38:29.000 And then you combine that with a situation on the internet where you can always find what seems like a lot of people that agree with you. 0.94

02:38:37.000 Like Tim has talked about this before, but like, used to be 25 or 50 years ago, if you were like, man, I want to have sex with my toaster, you tell your friend and your friend's like, what the hell's wrong with you? 0.98

02:38:48.000 No, you don't want to have sex with your toaster. 0.99

02:38:50.000 Knock it off. 0.99

02:38:51.000 But nowadays, you go on the internet, you find a group of people that are like, man, I want to have sex with toasters. 0.95

02:38:56.000 And there's a thousand people in the group and you think, man, this is totally normal.

02:38:59.000 So the internet kind of warps reality.

02:39:01.000 You find people that you agree with.

02:39:03.000 And then it seems like everybody agrees with you.

02:39:06.000 I've got 200 or something thousand followers.

02:39:09.000 And if I say something that upsets a group of people, my mentions will seem like everybody's against me.

02:39:15.000 But if you look at like the likes to the comments, very rarely is it actually a ratio.

02:39:19.000 You know, I get a thousand likes, but if you've got a hundred comments in your mentions, it seems like, wow, there's a lot of people that disagree with me.

02:39:28.000 It's just the way we perceive things.

02:39:30.000 People aren't wired to be able to process the difference between 1,000 people and 10,000 people.

02:39:39.000 Most people only will know closely maybe a couple hundred people in their whole life.

02:39:45.000 Your whole life, there may be two, 300 people that you actually know and meet and talk to on a regular basis.

02:39:50.000 So you're not really wired.

02:39:52.000 Like evolutionarily, you're not wired to know more than people.

02:39:56.000 So once you get past a certain number, it just seems like a bunch.

02:40:00.000 So I think that a lot of the reason why the conspiracy stuff is so prevalent on the internet is because people feel like all the people they interact with agree with them, but they're just kind of in a bubble of a few hundred, maybe a thousand, five thousand people.

02:40:14.000 And that just seems like everything.

02:40:15.000 And it's what I said earlier.

02:40:17.000 We got Trump elected because we exposed the media for their lies.

02:40:22.000 And everything they said that was a conspiracy from us all came true.

02:40:26.000 Everything about COVID, everything about everything. 0.99

02:40:29.000 And so now when we have somebody like Candace just spreading insanity, we can't be the people, the party, that are pushing conspiracy bullshit. 0.94

02:40:40.000 Because all of our conspiracies came true that they accuse us of for like five years. 0.74

02:40:45.000 Just asking questions, like pointed questions are quite obviously more than just questions. 1.00

02:40:50.000 If I'm like, well, do you smell like shit or do you smell like 10 times that much shit? 1.00

02:40:55.000 Like, what kind of fucking question is that? 1.00

02:40:57.000 I'm insinuating that you smell like shit. 1.00

02:40:58.000 Not you, Mike, but that would be an insinuative question. 1.00

02:41:01.000 I just wish Candice people. 0.91

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 17, 2025

Candace Owens IMPLODES, Audience IN REVOLT, Claim SHES A CLONE Or GOT THE CALL | Timcast IRL

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