Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Candace Owens Says MILITARY INVOLVED In Kirk Killing, Says Tim Pool's Brother Tried To SHOOT HIM

00:02:26.000 Candace Owens has yet another conspiracy theory. 1.00

00:02:30.000 It was the U.S. military that was involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:02:36.000 Now, I'm just waiting for her to accuse Pepe Sylvia.

00:02:39.000 But shout out to the super chatter who started off the show with that joke.

00:02:42.000 I stole it from him.

00:02:43.000 So shout out to I'm Not Your Buddy Guy, who Super Chatt wrote when the show started.

00:02:47.000 She also has another conspiracy theory that I survived the shooting by my own brother, which is an absolute fabrication.

00:02:54.000 And this is nuts.

00:02:56.000 Because I've been very heavily criticizing her, she's now claimed that I'm in financial distress, suffering some kind of personal issue.

00:03:03.000 I don't know, maybe it was the shooting at my property.

00:03:05.000 I'll give her that one.

00:03:06.000 And that I'm trying to sell my company, so I'm auditioning for Zionists. 1.00

00:03:11.000 If that wasn't the best she could come up with, she then today claimed, I survived a shooting committed by my own brother, which is the most insane thing anyone could ever possibly say. 0.99

00:03:21.000 It is, I mean, accusing my own brother of trying to murder me is the stupidest thing imaginable. 1.00

00:03:28.000 I don't even know where her brain is. 0.99

00:03:31.000 And I just, I have to say this, even though I know you're not really supposed to, but I'm not going to speak on behalf of my brother, who is not a public figure. 0.99

00:03:41.000 But holy crap, accusing someone of committing a shooting to murder a family member is, let's just call it beyond actionable, which is crazy that she would, I don't get it. 0.80

00:03:54.000 Maybe she's really depressed and just trying to destroy everything around her. 0.99

00:03:57.000 I don't know.

00:03:58.000 So I guess we are going to talk about that again.

00:04:01.000 It does seem to be the bigger of the news stories.

00:04:05.000 And everybody's writing about how I had an unhinged rant slamming the table, screaming about it the other day.

00:04:09.000 So agreed.

00:04:11.000 But I guess that's news.

00:04:12.000 So we're going to talk about that.

00:04:13.000 And there's other news, you know, that matters.

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00:04:26.000 So maybe that's the message Trump needs to have.

00:04:28.000 Hey, we want to make it so you can buy a house and have a family because people really like that.

00:04:32.000 So we're going to talk about that, of course.

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00:06:30.000 Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more is the star of Son of the Mask, Jamie Kennedy.

00:06:35.000 Wow.

00:06:37.000 How are you, buddy?

00:06:38.000 I'm good.

00:06:39.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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00:06:47.000 Yes.

00:06:48.000 You brought up Son of the Mask.

00:06:49.000 And at first I said shot's fire, but then I don't know.

00:06:52.000 Do you like the movie or don't like the movie?

00:06:54.000 I'll be honest with you, C-minus.

00:06:56.000 C-mine. 0.98

00:06:56.000 Thank you for that. 0.98

00:06:57.000 That might be better than a lot of other people gave it, but I didn't, I don't mean this to be rude, but I didn't have a lot of expectations for it as a, you know, I mean, it's like a goofy movie where a baby, you know, it's the mask.

00:07:08.000 And a dog.

00:07:09.000 And a dog.

00:07:09.000 Well, the dog in the first movie did too.

00:07:11.000 But it was, you know, it was like popcorn flick.

00:07:13.000 I'm sitting there.

00:07:14.000 I was laughing.

00:07:15.000 It's not Lord of the Rings, but, you know, well, I mean, I'm glad I drove two hours to come out here.

00:07:21.000 Start with that.

00:07:22.000 Fantastic.

00:07:23.000 No, but you know what?

00:07:24.000 It's crazy you say that because the movie when it came out was hated.

00:07:28.000 Of course.

00:07:29.000 But now, of course.

00:07:30.000 Jesus, two for two, guys.

00:07:33.000 Drink some pool water.

00:07:35.000 And then now the new generation likes it.

00:07:39.000 Yeah.

00:07:40.000 Which is wild to me.

00:07:41.000 Well, so it's not a movie that you should put against normal movies.

00:07:45.000 Right.

00:07:45.000 You know, and this might be three for three, but it's so bad it's good.

00:07:48.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:49.000 Low-key, I understand that.

00:07:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:51.000 I understand that.

00:07:52.000 Can I just say this?

00:07:53.000 We set out to make a certain type of movie and we lost control, meaning we didn't have the final say.

00:07:58.000 It's on my YouTube.

00:07:59.000 You can watch the documentary I made about it.

00:08:01.000 Well, so you're a comedian?

00:08:03.000 How else would you describe yourself?

00:08:05.000 Actor?

00:08:06.000 I mean, I hate labels.

00:08:08.000 I'm a comedian.

00:08:09.000 I'm an actor.

00:08:10.000 You know, I'm getting into podcasting.

00:08:12.000 I don't know.

00:08:13.000 Just a person that likes to express himself, but probably comedian actors most known.

00:08:17.000 Well, right on.

00:08:18.000 It's going to be fun having you here.

00:08:19.000 I appreciate you coming down.

00:08:20.000 Dude, I appreciate you having me, man.

00:08:21.000 I really do.

00:08:21.000 Absolutely.

00:08:22.000 This is awesome.

00:08:23.000 We have Ian.

00:08:23.000 Hi, everybody.

00:08:24.000 Up in it.

00:08:25.000 Crossland in the house.

00:08:26.000 Good to see you Jay.

00:08:26.000 How are you, buddy?

00:08:27.000 Fantastic.

00:08:28.000 Let's move it along, Elod.

00:08:30.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:08:31.000 I'm Elad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.

00:08:34.000 What's up, Phil?

00:08:37.000 Late to the party.

00:08:38.000 Hello, everybody.

00:08:38.000 My name is Phil Bonante.

00:08:39.000 I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band All That Rains.

00:08:41.000 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:08:42.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:43.000 Oh, we'll start with the big story.

00:08:45.000 We've got this from MediaIte.

00:08:46.000 Candace Owens drops yet another Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory. 1.00

00:08:49.000 The U.S. military was involved.

00:08:52.000 Ooh, really?

00:08:54.000 Owens, in a series of Instagram posts on Tuesday, said she was ready to blow this case open.

00:08:59.000 Oh, after three months, she finally is going to do it, huh?

00:09:01.000 Based on a tip she received from a service member the night before.

00:09:04.000 Quote, it feels like today will be the day that the government can no longer deny it.

00:09:08.000 Charlie Kirk was assassinated and our military was involved.

00:09:12.000 I can't wait to share this information with you guys today.

00:09:15.000 The commentator, who has more than 5.6 million YouTube subscribers and the 10th ranked podcast on Spotify, said the scoop came to her just hours after she went to church and prayed for the final piece to be revealed.

00:09:26.000 Her prayer was immediately answered, she said.

00:09:28.000 In the very first email she saw in her tip inbox right before going to sleep, she did not share more details.

00:09:34.000 Her claim comes after Owens has spent the past three months sharing conspiracy theories about the killing of Kirk.

00:09:40.000 Those include claims Kirk was killed by pro-Israel henchmen who were upset he was starting to have rational thoughts about Israel in the months before his death, as well as the claim billionaire activist Bill Ackman made threats against Kirk for his apparent shift away from Israel.

00:09:53.000 And then we have this tweet from Sarah Fields.

00:09:56.000 According to Candace Owens, this is who to blame for the assassination of Charlie Kirk based on her own public statements on X and on her podcast.

00:10:02.000 I've kept track.

00:10:03.000 Okay.

00:10:04.000 The French government, including Emmanuel Macron and British Macron, the French Foreign Legion, 13th Brigade, the Gene de Marie Intervention Group, Israel, Israeli operatives, and Benjamin Nen.

00:10:12.000 You have Jewish donors, the U.S. government, feds, and the FBI, the Deep State, the CIA, Turning Point USA executives and leadership, including Tyre Boyer, Andrew Colvett, Erica Kirk, yes, his wife, Blake Neff, Pastor Rob McCoy, Josh Hammer, Pierre DuPont, and DuPont family, Stacey Sheridan, Freemasons, the broader French interests, BB Net and Yahoo with Israel connections, Egypt and Egyptian operations, e.g. planes and joint exercises, Bolsheviks and anti-Christian forces, maroon-shirted individuals, suspected operatives or military, TPUSA Associated Influencers, e.g. Alex Clark.

00:10:40.000 Are you done yet?

00:10:41.000 There were only three possible reason, possible reasons for her nonsense. 0.98

00:10:45.000 Either she's evil, mentally ill, or a complete grifter, which is it because a truth teller is not even on the table anymore. 0.89

00:10:51.000 So, gentlemen, this shocking revelation that the U.S. military was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination, what do y'all think? 0.97

00:10:57.000 They missed a partridge in a pear tree.

00:10:59.000 Ah, yes.

00:11:00.000 It sounds like she finally figured it out.

00:11:03.000 I don't know.

00:11:04.000 It sounds like she was making fun of Bridget Macron, and then the French government threatened her life, and now she's just terrified and just doing what she does more because that's made her a lot of money and got her adulation and her fans tell her they love her.

00:11:16.000 I have to read this from, what does that say?

00:11:17.000 Metafrost.

00:11:18.000 Tim Poole can't pronounce French words.

00:11:21.000 Agreed.

00:11:22.000 Jean-Varcé Marie.

00:11:24.000 I can't pronounce that word.

00:11:25.000 I can't say French things.

00:11:27.000 I can say la chat est sole table.

00:11:29.000 That's about as close as I'll get to saying anything in French.

00:11:30.000 I wonder if Crackhead Candace will eventually get around to blaming Tyler Robinson for the murder. 0.83

00:11:35.000 No, I already figured this out.

00:11:37.000 I already figured this out.

00:11:38.000 Do you know what the end of the season finale of this season is going to be?

00:11:42.000 It's going to be Charlie Kirk was responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:11:45.000 Oh, he planted it.

00:11:46.000 It's like, it just goes all the way around until it just creates.

00:11:49.000 It's got Ouro Boros.

00:11:50.000 Traveled from the past.

00:11:51.000 From the past, future shot himself because he was tired of dealing with that.

00:11:57.000 I don't necessarily want to say too soon because we're kind of just making fun of Candace being crazy, but I would expect her to go that far.

00:12:04.000 I mean, the U.S. military, the French Foreign Legion, Israel.

00:12:09.000 If you choose enough people, eventually something will be right.

00:12:13.000 Well, you know, my theory is?

00:12:15.000 Do you guys know what Three Stooges syndrome is?

00:12:17.000 No.

00:12:17.000 Are you familiar with this one?

00:12:19.000 Three Stooges.

00:12:20.000 Let me pull this up for you because we've talked about on the show before.

00:12:23.000 Richie knows what I'm talking about.

00:12:25.000 Three Stooges syndrome.

00:12:27.000 It refers to a state of being overwhelmed by multiple tasks, diseases, or problems so that nothing gets done.

00:12:32.000 And I have an image that I can show you explaining exactly what this is.

00:12:37.000 Let me just pull this one up and zoom in for you.

00:12:39.000 What an episode I came on.

00:12:41.000 Here you go.

00:12:42.000 It's demonstrated by this doctor who took oversized novelty germs and tried to push them all through a single door at once, and they all get stuck and can't get in.

00:12:51.000 Thus was why Mr. Burns had every notable disease but wasn't dying.

00:12:55.000 My theory is that Candace Owens is engaging in what we would call three Stooges syndrome as for defamation. 1.00

00:13:02.000 She's trying to defame as many people as possible so that when they all file the lawsuits at the same time, the courts will be overwhelmed and they won't actually be able to finish any of the trials until 40, 50 years from now. 1.00

00:13:15.000 You know, this topic is just, you know, the Charlie Kirk death.

00:13:20.000 I don't know if you were very close with him.

00:13:22.000 I wouldn't say very close.

00:13:24.000 It rocked me to my core.

00:13:26.000 Really?

00:13:26.000 I knew nothing about him other than he was a political guy.

00:13:30.000 And to see that image in the video absolutely twisted me up.

00:13:36.000 So it's, you know, it's horrible what happened to him.

00:13:40.000 And, you know, I've talked about it a lot.

00:13:44.000 Yeah.

00:13:45.000 How would you describe yourself politically?

00:13:46.000 Like, not really that political or anything?

00:13:48.000 I was never political and I became politicized because I did a movie called Roe v. Wade.

00:13:55.000 And by doing that movie, I was put in 2021 and they said I was a right winger.

00:14:02.000 Really?

00:14:03.000 And I did nothing other than be in a movie about abortion.

00:14:06.000 And through that movie, I had learned a lot about abortion and Planned Parenthood, how it started, Margaret Sanger, all the other things that came up with it.

00:14:19.000 And I was considered, I did an interview with a paper called The Daily Beast.

00:14:23.000 I'm just an actor and a comedian, bro.

00:14:25.000 I didn't know anything.

00:14:25.000 I didn't know there was left and right in all these agendas.

00:14:28.000 You hear about it.

00:14:30.000 And then they said all of this stuff, then I was like, well, that's not true about me.

00:14:35.000 That's not true.

00:14:36.000 And so then I was kind of demonized through that one article and then it started.

00:14:41.000 And then through COVID, I started like voicing my opinion.

00:14:45.000 I consider myself a dude who's just, I don't know, normal, which is in the middle, common sense.

00:14:50.000 But now I don't know what I am.

00:14:52.000 This is still normal, but the outs, it's normal people in a crazy world look crazy.

00:14:56.000 This is where most of us are, right?

00:14:58.000 Like Ian's not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. 0.98

00:15:01.000 In fact, anybody who met him today would be like, he's kind of nuts.

00:15:04.000 But they'll call him right wing for simply being on this show.

00:15:08.000 They'll call me right wing for simply, it's exactly as you described.

00:15:12.000 Yeah, it's like there's just common sense things.

00:15:16.000 And if you question, the thing is, is that we should be able to talk about everything and we should question everything.

00:15:22.000 And when you are not allowed to question something and you're labeled, that's insane to me.

00:15:29.000 So I say don't be loyal to a label, be loyal to logic.

00:15:34.000 So there's, you know, I don't care what party you are, what religion you are.

00:15:37.000 After Charlie Kirk, I said this on my podcast, a lot has changed for me.

00:15:41.000 And when it's, I don't care about gender, religion, democratic affiliation.

00:15:46.000 I care if you're a good person or not.

00:15:47.000 And I think that's a big thing that people have to understand.

00:15:50.000 They're going to go, well, what does that mean?

00:15:52.000 I think just common sense of being a good person.

00:15:54.000 Yeah, there are a lot of people that watch this podcast that are going to basically be like, oh, well, duh, Phil.

00:16:00.000 But the situation that we're in now is if you say things that step out of line with the left, they just essentially say you're right wing.

00:16:12.000 And it doesn't matter how many issues it is.

00:16:15.000 It doesn't matter if it's a lot of issues or just one of their issues they hold dear.

00:16:20.000 But, bro, let me say this.

00:16:21.000 I love that you're promoting your album through this whole thing.

00:16:23.000 Hilarious.

00:16:25.000 Is that it's changing, and Hollywood is way more common sense than people realize. 0.94

00:16:34.000 They just don't want to say it because they don't want to fuck their money up. 0.83

00:16:37.000 But their money is changing because more people are like, this is too much. 0.97

00:16:41.000 Yeah.

00:16:42.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:43.000 We're getting back to normalcy, which I would consider an 80s movie.

00:16:46.000 You know, one thing you said.

00:16:47.000 Those were great.

00:16:48.000 Some of the best movies ever made.

00:16:48.000 Yeah.

00:16:49.000 Yeah.

00:16:50.000 Exactly.

00:16:50.000 Making more of those.

00:16:51.000 We need to Sherman, Illinois.

00:16:53.000 Making loud comedies and just that type of stuff.

00:16:53.000 Exactly.

00:16:56.000 So it is changing.

00:16:57.000 Where's Groundhog Day?

00:16:58.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:59.000 Yes.

00:16:59.000 Isn't it like I love this point because it's one of the greatest movies ever made?

00:17:04.000 It's not a big budget.

00:17:05.000 It's literally just a comedian and human actors, and they use film to create a time loop.

00:17:11.000 They don't do special effects, no crazy CGI.

00:17:13.000 It's one of the best movies ever made.

00:17:14.000 All movies today are just lowest common denominator explosions.

00:17:17.000 You rarely get well, that's not true.

00:17:20.000 There's a lot of amazing art smaller.

00:17:23.000 Sure, but I mean, the point is the big studios aren't releasing these in theaters and they're not becoming cultural icons.

00:17:27.000 No, they are what they're doing is instead of making 10, $10 million movies, they're making $100 million movie.

00:17:34.000 They're making these super movies for 200 million and they're making way less movies.

00:17:37.000 When I was coming up, you could audition for four $10 million comedies a week.

00:17:42.000 Wow.

00:17:42.000 Now they don't even make comedies.

00:17:44.000 Yeah.

00:17:44.000 So it's offensive.

00:17:46.000 It's well, yeah, which is insane, but it is changing because of voices like yourself and other people that are saying, we're not offended.

00:17:55.000 All the gatekeepers were being offended for people that weren't offended.

00:17:58.000 So comedy is the first thing to kind of loosen up the culture.

00:18:03.000 And I think it is changing.

00:18:04.000 You said something about how you felt demonized for questioning, I think, or that you were questioning.

00:18:08.000 Oh, I was attacked.

00:18:09.000 For questioning.

00:18:10.000 Yeah.

00:18:11.000 And that it should be okay to question.

00:18:13.000 I want to bring that up because we're tying into what Candace is doing.

00:18:16.000 And that's her argument: I'm just asking questions.

00:18:18.000 But I tell you, if you ask the widow of a murdered man, did you kill your husband?

00:18:24.000 That's punishment.

00:18:25.000 That process is punishment for the widow. 1.00

00:18:27.000 So, yeah, you might think you're just asking questions, Candace, but at some point, certain questions are more than just questions.

00:18:35.000 And I think then that argument is used against people when they're honestly like, why do I have to get a vaccination?

00:18:39.000 Why?

00:18:40.000 You know, and then they'll be like, hey, some questions are too much to ask.

00:18:45.000 No, I don't know.

00:18:46.000 There's a balance.

00:18:47.000 There is a balance.

00:18:48.000 You can psyop culture by asking certain questions.

00:18:51.000 You certainly can.

00:18:53.000 Would you say that there is a tasteful way to ask even sensitive questions, though?

00:18:59.000 I mean, if you're asking a question, that's one thing.

00:19:01.000 But if you're going on a podcast and posing it to your audience, is the question really the important thing?

00:19:07.000 Or is it about actually garnering a larger audience or feeding meat to your audience that that's the kind of topic that they're interested in?

00:19:16.000 Because if you're seriously interested in finding out, in the context here, we're talking about Candace, Candace could reach out to Erica and talk to her.

00:19:24.000 So it's not, in my opinion, it's not that Candace is looking to answer questions.

00:19:29.000 She's looking to pose questions in order to entertain her audience. 0.99

00:19:35.000 Listen, I know what we need to do.

00:19:37.000 Every time we end a segment, here's my plan.

00:19:40.000 I'm going to go like this.

00:19:42.000 Well, it's a real interesting story.

00:19:44.000 I guess we're going to have to wait and see.

00:19:45.000 So thanks for hanging out.

00:19:46.000 Smash the like button.

00:19:48.000 Hold on a minute.

00:19:49.000 I just got an email.

00:19:50.000 Let me check this out.

00:19:53.000 Is it your special tips email?

00:19:53.000 Oh my God.

00:19:55.000 Oh my God.

00:19:56.000 This email.

00:19:58.000 This email.

00:19:59.000 I'm going to have to do another video.

00:20:01.000 Don't miss my show at 1 p.m. when I expose what I just received.

00:20:07.000 It's terrifying.

00:20:08.000 And then you end the segment, and everyone's going to go, oh, my God.

00:20:11.000 And then I'm going to put an Instagram post where I'm like, Ian did it.

00:20:14.000 That's all I'll say.

00:20:15.000 And nothing else.

00:20:16.000 And people are going to be like, whoa, what does he mean? 0.98

00:20:18.000 And then like the 1 p.m. segment is like, just something stupid about Bonnie Blue getting arrested for banging a thousand dudes. 1.00

00:20:24.000 That happened, by the way. 0.96

00:20:26.000 Yeah, she got arrested. 0.81

00:20:27.000 She got arrested in Bali.

00:20:29.000 1,000 guys?

00:20:31.000 No, no, no.

00:20:31.000 That was, she banged a thousand dudes in the UK, but she tried banging like 17 dudes in Bali and they arrested her.

00:20:37.000 So she's going to prison. 1.00

00:20:38.000 Oh.

00:20:39.000 She's in prison now. 1.00

00:20:40.000 No.

00:20:42.000 We'll cover this story later.

00:20:43.000 Anyway, get her out of jail. 1.00

00:20:47.000 I got to do it.

00:20:47.000 I got to do it, guys.

00:20:48.000 We got to jump to the next story because welcome to the drama.

00:20:51.000 Welcome to the Candace Show.

00:20:52.000 So Candace Owens has claimed that I survived a shooting committed by my own brother.

00:20:59.000 That's what she posted.

00:21:00.000 And she's doing this because she knows she's intentionally misrepresenting the actual story.

00:21:05.000 And she is lying because this is what she does.

00:21:08.000 So let me just, here's a tweet from her.

00:21:10.000 The shooting Tim Poole survived in December 2022 was committed by his brother, by the way.

00:21:16.000 His brother was the one who fired the weapon on his property.

00:21:18.000 He cannot deny this fact.

00:21:19.000 I will tell you unequivocally right now, there was no shooting that I ever claimed to have survived where my brother fired a weapon.

00:21:27.000 There is no circumstance where in any capacity my own brother tried to murder me or cause great bodily harm to me.

00:21:36.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:21:37.000 I'll be careful because we're brothers and we fought when we were kids.

00:21:40.000 But my brother has never tried to end my life or hurt me in any way in any way, well, in any serious way.

00:21:47.000 He punched me in the arm once, but come on. 0.99

00:21:49.000 Candace is doing this because she is an insane person who lies. 1.00

00:21:54.000 So I want to make sure I can say this very, very clearly. 0.94

00:21:57.000 The shooting, she put in quotes, okay?

00:22:00.000 I never claimed there was a shooting in December of 2022, a shooting as if to imply someone came here to shoot.

00:22:06.000 I never claimed I survived a shooting in December 2022.

00:22:10.000 What actually happened in December of 2022, I posted on X at our property where we were not present, intruders broke in and a staffer opened fire on these people.

00:22:23.000 I never used the word survived, nor did I claim that my life was in danger or that there was a shooting.

00:22:29.000 She is intentionally misrepresenting a tweet I made, which has resulted in people saying things like this.

00:22:36.000 One of her followers, she didn't say try to shoot you.

00:22:39.000 She said it was your brother who had run off from security after breaking into your place.

00:22:44.000 If it wasn't Chris and he wasn't involved, just state that as a fact.

00:22:48.000 Why twist what she said?

00:22:50.000 Okay.

00:22:51.000 My brother Chris never had to break onto the property.

00:22:54.000 You know why?

00:22:55.000 Because he has a key.

00:22:56.000 Actually, we ask him to be here sometimes.

00:22:59.000 There's no breaking in.

00:23:00.000 In fact, he can tell the security to leave if he wants to, although I wouldn't recommend it.

00:23:04.000 My brother is actually a manager at the company who does work here.

00:23:08.000 This is an insane fabrication, an absolutely insane story.

00:23:13.000 They've started posting photos of my brother, who's not a public figure.

00:23:19.000 This is how insane it is right now with what Candace is doing.

00:23:23.000 And the crazy thing to me is, well, you know what?

00:23:26.000 I'm not going to say it's crazy.

00:23:28.000 I was having a conversation with a prominent conservative personality.

00:23:32.000 It'll be up to them to say if they want to, you know, I was on the phone with them.

00:23:34.000 They can mention on their show if they want to talk about this because I don't want to go into greater detail.

00:23:38.000 But they were just saying she's burning out.

00:23:42.000 I mean, it's one thing to talk about the Macrones in a way that can never be proven.

00:23:46.000 Like Bridget McCrone is a man.

00:23:47.000 What's Bridget McCron going to do? 1.00

00:23:48.000 Like, drop trow on camera, never going to happen.

00:23:52.000 But she's gotten to the point where to one up her narrative every day, it has to become increasingly crazier.

00:23:59.000 So, today it's the U.S. military was involved.

00:24:02.000 Like, sooner or later, this is a joke we made 10 minutes ago.

00:24:04.000 Sooner or later, it's going to go back to like Charlie Kirk traveled from the future to end his own, like some ridiculous, insane narrative.

00:24:11.000 Literally now, because I criticized her and she took issue with it and then made up lies about me. 0.89

00:24:18.000 She has tweeted, she put these in quotes.

00:24:21.000 I want to make sure this is very clear to everybody.

00:24:22.000 The shooting in quotes, I guess technically, you can call it a shooting, fine, even though I reported intruders came in and a staff member opened fired on them that I quote survived.

00:24:32.000 I never said that word.

00:24:33.000 I never said it in this context.

00:24:35.000 That is not a real quote.

00:24:36.000 And if you want to make the argument that she's using air quotes as it's meant to represent air quotes, it would imply that I'm dead.

00:24:42.000 So I'm not dead.

00:24:44.000 So survived in quotes makes no sense.

00:24:45.000 I never said that word, never used it in reference to this.

00:24:49.000 In December 22 was committed by my brother.

00:24:52.000 She is outright saying there was a shooting that I claimed, I quote, survived, that my brother committed.

00:24:57.000 This is psychotic.

00:24:59.000 It is beyond defamation. 0.94

00:25:01.000 It is absolutely unhinged and vile and evil to claim my own brother would do anything like this.

00:25:07.000 And it's absolutely, absolutely false. 1.00

00:25:10.000 She is an evil person. 1.00

00:25:12.000 Now, what I can say is, we do have this video. 0.92

00:25:16.000 Probably shouldn't play it, but I'm going to play it for you.

00:25:18.000 Some guy called the wrong sheriff's department and then asked them whether or not there was a shooting reported, to which they said no.

00:25:28.000 And he says that proves it Tim's lying.

00:25:30.000 The only problem is he called some random sheriff's department.

00:25:33.000 Cam Higbee called the correct sheriff's department and they confirmed it.

00:25:37.000 And so I'm going to play the video for you and you can hear it straight from Cam Higby.

00:25:40.000 Cam Higby, he censors pertinent details.

00:25:43.000 And so I respect him for doing that.

00:25:45.000 And here's the clip from Cam Sheriff's Office.

00:25:51.000 Sorry, I got tongue tied.

00:25:53.000 Sheriff's office.

00:25:54.000 No worries.

00:25:55.000 Hi, this is Cameron Higby.

00:25:57.000 I just wanted to call and verify receipt of a report that should have been filed with you guys or an incident.

00:26:08.000 Okay.

00:26:09.000 Do you have the incident number?

00:26:11.000 No, I have the name of the person and the incident.

00:26:15.000 So there was a shooting in Tim Poole's compound, and I wanted to make sure that you guys have, that you guys are aware of that.

00:26:26.000 It would have been last night, so it would have been the night of 12-5.

00:26:31.000 It might have been reported the following morning.

00:26:33.000 Thank you for holding.

00:26:34.000 I'm so sorry.

00:26:35.000 No worries.

00:26:35.000 Yep.

00:26:36.000 That's totally okay.

00:26:38.000 Yeah, we just got bombarded with an issue here.

00:26:41.000 I totally get it.

00:26:41.000 No, you guys have more important things to do, I'm sure.

00:26:45.000 Okay, so it says here it was a third-party caller that called it in.

00:26:50.000 Okay.

00:26:50.000 And what road did you say that was?

00:26:54.000 Oh.

00:26:57.000 Okay.

00:26:57.000 Got it.

00:26:59.000 I just want to check if that would be the right road.

00:27:02.000 So it was a third-party caller.

00:27:05.000 And was it that incident I described where somebody drove up and kind of just shot at the place?

00:27:13.000 Amazing.

00:27:14.000 Okay.

00:27:15.000 Well, I'm glad that's on your guys' radar.

00:27:17.000 And that was in right?

00:27:21.000 Yes, sir.

00:27:22.000 Amazing.

00:27:23.000 Thank you so much for verifying that.

00:27:23.000 Okay.

00:27:24.000 I appreciate it a lot.

00:27:26.000 The funny thing is, Cam has confirmed report independently.

00:27:29.000 I have not talked to him about this.

00:27:31.000 And they're now claiming still that it didn't happen. 0.93

00:27:34.000 This is how insane these people are.

00:27:37.000 So let me just make sure it's very, very clear for everybody.

00:27:39.000 This is also distressing.

00:27:42.000 The fact that people are calling local police departments all over the place and trying to figure out where we live.

00:27:48.000 And that the police would be like, yep, here's all the information you're requesting.

00:27:52.000 It's kind of crazy they do, but at the bare minimum, you know, Cam verify this.

00:27:56.000 Here's what I love.

00:27:57.000 So some guy calls the wrong department and they're like, we got no reports of that.

00:28:01.000 And then all of these Candace tards are like, whoa, Tim lied. 1.00

00:28:05.000 Cam Higby calls the correct department and they go, yep, we've got confirmation of that shooting at Tim Poole's property.

00:28:10.000 And I think they actually said, shut up the property.

00:28:13.000 And now they're going, how do we even know it's real?

00:28:15.000 How do we even know this is a real phone call?

00:28:16.000 Prove it.

00:28:17.000 That's typical of conspiracy theories, though.

00:28:17.000 Prove it.

00:28:20.000 It doesn't matter what information you present or what evidence you present.

00:28:24.000 It's always looked at as, oh, this confirms.

00:28:27.000 There's always more questions that they're going to ask because they already believe one narrative and nothing that you present will ever change their mind.

00:28:36.000 So this is the main reason why I highlight these things.

00:28:39.000 At what point do the people who follow Candace go, well, she must have been lying?

00:28:45.000 They don't.

00:28:46.000 I mean, like, she's just putting out fake things, but people just follow her anyway.

00:28:46.000 Right?

00:28:55.000 So is this about the most recent shooting?

00:28:57.000 Yeah.

00:28:58.000 This is.

00:28:59.000 And about the one in 2022, there was another shooting?

00:29:02.000 In 2022, this is before we set up shop and built the studio.

00:29:02.000 Yeah.

00:29:07.000 We weren't here.

00:29:08.000 And it was early in the morning.

00:29:09.000 And it was either two or three guys broke in and we had staff on site.

00:29:13.000 And our staff opened fire on the intruders.

00:29:17.000 Subsequently, we said on the show, don't come to West Virginia. 1.00

00:29:21.000 We will shoot you. 0.99

00:29:21.000 Like, don't break into our property. 0.99

00:29:23.000 You will die.

00:29:24.000 And I don't want that to happen.

00:29:26.000 In this video, you hear they say it's third party.

00:29:28.000 Right.

00:29:28.000 We have a security company.

00:29:30.000 Security company handles everything.

00:29:31.000 We don't think about it.

00:29:32.000 So we have guys all over the property with with weapons.

00:29:35.000 It's a beautiful sight to see like a dude standing there with a, with an AR-15.

00:29:40.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:41.000 It's a beautiful sight because I love guns.

00:29:44.000 America.

00:29:44.000 It is kind of distressing that it has to be that way.

00:29:47.000 It's still cool because I like guns, you know, but I'd prefer not to kind of not to live this way.

00:29:51.000 But so yeah, third party called in.

00:29:53.000 The new lie they're using is, why was it reported the following day?

00:29:57.000 Because he said on the 5th and the police report, it's midnight.

00:30:02.000 Like people, these people don't understand this.

00:30:04.000 The filing was around two in the morning, just after it happened.

00:30:07.000 Our security team went on alert and called the police and they were patrols.

00:30:12.000 And yes, a report was filed.

00:30:13.000 And then the following morning, after we had our bearings together and we knew that everything was secure and we had filed with the police and all that, I put out that tweet saying this is what happened.

00:30:21.000 So the question I have is, when Candace claims that I used the word survived a shooting and my brother committed that shooting, that is beyond defamation.

00:30:33.000 I mean, this is insane. 0.95

00:30:34.000 Anybody who knows my brother knows this is just ridiculous. 0.93

00:30:36.000 It's absolutely not. 0.91

00:30:38.000 He's a veteran.

00:30:39.000 He's an army veteran.

00:30:40.000 He's not going to shoot me.

00:30:42.000 He never tried to do anything like that to me.

00:30:45.000 It is shockingly offensive and psychotic.

00:30:47.000 But I think for Candace, she has to continually one-up the narrative to create this mystery box drama podcast she's doing.

00:30:55.000 So now it's, she said, Tim Poole is going through personal issues.

00:30:58.000 He's having financial troubles.

00:31:00.000 He's trying to sell his company.

00:31:01.000 His brother tried to kill him.

00:31:03.000 It's just soap opera.

00:31:05.000 Now imagine all of her followers being like, whoa, Tim Pool's brother tried to kill him.

00:31:09.000 Like, whoa.

00:31:10.000 That's what, that's the world they live in.

00:31:12.000 My buddy Robbie Mann, Robbie, Robbie, I know you're listening.

00:31:16.000 He was like, dude, it's just, he's like, it's like, it's like a mystery drama, man.

00:31:20.000 Like, I got to watch every episode.

00:31:22.000 It's like, you don't know what's going to happen next.

00:31:23.000 You know, I don't take it that seriously.

00:31:25.000 And I was like, dude, these are real people.

00:31:28.000 She is using as puppets in her soap opera.

00:31:32.000 Arin McIntyre, in an interview with Tate earlier this morning, he said, you are not a real person.

00:31:36.000 You are a character in her drama.

00:31:39.000 And her audience don't see you as a real person.

00:31:42.000 They see you as a fictional character.

00:31:44.000 They don't understand this is real life.

00:31:46.000 And someone just fired shots at our property.

00:31:49.000 And now Candace makes a thumbnail with my picture on it, Kash Patel, and a mystery person silhouette saying who benefited from Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:31:57.000 We should probably.

00:31:57.000 That was the purpose.

00:31:58.000 I'm sorry to interrupt, but also her face.

00:32:00.000 I put this out who benefited the most.

00:32:03.000 And it's her face really big on the thumbnail.

00:32:05.000 And then it's like Tim and Cash next to her.

00:32:07.000 But no one's going to assume that's her.

00:32:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:32:09.000 I know.

00:32:09.000 It would be silly, but I mean, she's like, who benefited the most?

00:32:12.000 Candace Owens will tell.

00:32:13.000 And it's like, we'll tell you.

00:32:15.000 And then the couple other smaller pictures was like, who benefited the most, Candace?

00:32:18.000 Yes, this is what she did.

00:32:19.000 Who's benefited?

00:32:20.000 The billion-dollar question, who stood to benefit from Charlie Kirk's assassination?

00:32:24.000 And mystery person, Tim Poole, and Kash Patel.

00:32:26.000 And Candace Owens, like the biggest, most prominent picture in that title is Candace. 0.93

00:32:31.000 It is accidentally hilarious.

00:32:33.000 You know, subconsciously, maybe even.

00:32:36.000 I don't, I'm not like she intended to make it seem like she was the one that benefited the most, but I mean, she did.

00:32:40.000 It's her face right next to the question.

00:32:42.000 I'm not even sure how does Kash Patel benefit by having the press coverage of solving the actual crime by finding the actual murderer of Charlie Kirk?

00:32:51.000 Like, is that how he stands to gain here?

00:32:53.000 It helps his career.

00:32:54.000 Well, so by finding the actual murderer of Charlie Kirk.

00:32:57.000 Yeah.

00:32:58.000 So what she'll end up saying is, no, no, the thumbnail just represents what the show is.

00:33:02.000 It has nothing to do with the title or the billion-dollar question, right?

00:33:06.000 In reality, we're not stupid. 0.56

00:33:08.000 We know exactly what she's doing.

00:33:09.000 The billion-dollar question is the thumbnail.

00:33:11.000 Who stood to benefit from Charlie Kirk's assassination?

00:33:13.000 If it wasn't meant to imply I or Cash, she wouldn't have included the silhouette man with the question mark.

00:33:19.000 She would have shown people that she would have shown turning point USA individuals, people she actually claimed were benefiting.

00:33:28.000 She's striking that pose.

00:33:30.000 That anime pose.

00:33:31.000 Yeah, that's the Nicola okay boomer pose.

00:33:34.000 Bro, this is crazy.

00:33:35.000 I just want to stress this.

00:33:36.000 She said there's a shooting committed by my brother.

00:33:38.000 Like, that's wild.

00:33:40.000 That's wild.

00:33:40.000 I'm just here to ask some questions too, man.

00:33:42.000 No, that's a statement of fact.

00:33:44.000 That is a false statement of fact.

00:33:45.000 That is a psychotic false statement of fact.

00:33:47.000 My brother never committed a shooting that I claimed I survived.

00:33:50.000 So what are you going to do?

00:33:52.000 Well, I'm not supposed to legally say.

00:33:54.000 Okay.

00:33:56.000 Everyone knows what that means.

00:33:57.000 So in 2022, there was a shooting, and she's saying it was your look.

00:34:02.000 So let's clarify, right?

00:34:03.000 There's two shoes.

00:34:04.000 There's a lot of shootings.

00:34:06.000 Well, yeah.

00:34:07.000 So let's clarify.

00:34:09.000 Shooting is probably a fair verb when our staffer shoots an intruder, right?

00:34:14.000 However, shooting committed by Tim Poole's brother as if to imply he was trying to kill me and committed as if to imply it was a crime.

00:34:25.000 So a staffer here fired a shot.

00:34:28.000 She's saying that she put shooting in quotes.

00:34:31.000 I don't know why.

00:34:32.000 And survived in quotes.

00:34:34.000 I never said I survived the shooting.

00:34:34.000 Okay.

00:34:37.000 So let me ask you this because I don't know enough about this beef.

00:34:41.000 Weren't you guys friends at one point?

00:34:43.000 I wouldn't say that we ever were like friends.

00:34:45.000 It's weird the media said that too.

00:34:46.000 Like I'm only learning about this stuff because of Charlie Kirk and the different world that exists.

00:34:51.000 So I thought like you and Candace and Charlie and you guys all talk to each other and different.

00:34:57.000 So, but now it's the reason the road is blazed, correct?

00:35:02.000 I would, I don't think it's fair to say that Candace and I were ever friends because she had been on the show, I think, twice.

00:35:07.000 She was on your show, though.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:35:09.000 And I'd been on her show.

00:35:12.000 With Charlie, however, I actually texted with him.

00:35:16.000 You know, I had his number.

00:35:18.000 And I always try to be careful and say that the, you know, it's tough because I don't want to be disrespectful.

00:35:25.000 If I were to come out and say Charlie and I were not friends, a lot of our mutual friends would be very offended by that statement because like, what do you mean, dude?

00:35:31.000 Charlie believed in you and he worked.

00:35:32.000 Like you guys teamed up.

00:35:33.000 You were here at MFest.

00:35:34.000 He texted you, but we didn't go golfing together.

00:35:37.000 We didn't do anything like that.

00:35:37.000 We didn't hang out.

00:35:38.000 So with Candace, never talked to her.

00:35:42.000 A booker booked her on the show. 0.76

00:35:43.000 She came on the show.

00:35:44.000 Said, thank you.

00:35:44.000 We talked.

00:35:45.000 Professional engagement.

00:35:45.000 Thanks for coming.

00:35:46.000 Right.

00:35:47.000 Yeah.

00:35:47.000 With Charlie, it was a little bit more than that, right?

00:35:50.000 Like, I would text him.

00:35:51.000 I text him about some stuff.

00:35:53.000 And, you know, like, I knew him.

00:35:55.000 I knew Erica.

00:35:56.000 And our team were also really good friends with his team and worked with them on a regular basis.

00:36:01.000 So I always try to caveat that, which is kind of an awful thing to do.

00:36:05.000 But I think it's fair to say we're not drinking buddies.

00:36:08.000 We weren't golfing or anything like that.

00:36:10.000 But I think it would be hurtful to probably his friends and family if I said I wasn't friends with him, you know?

00:36:16.000 Yeah, but I think there's a combination of boredom, political disinterest, and fatigue that has created this world.

00:36:26.000 And I do believe Candace Owens has a largely female audience.

00:36:30.000 And now I'm going to be as offensive as possible as I can.

00:36:34.000 Because someone pointed out to us, I think it was on the show, that Father Ripperger, you find ever heard of him, but he's a very famous Catholic priest exorcist.

00:36:43.000 And we did a show with him about exorcisms.

00:36:47.000 And he said demons refer to themselves in the plural and the third person.

00:36:54.000 So they say, we are Legion.

00:36:56.000 It's in the Bible.

00:36:58.000 Demons refer to themselves as we and us.

00:37:00.000 One of the things that you'll notice with a possessed person is they say they refer to themselves as we and us.

00:37:06.000 Who else does that?

00:37:08.000 Correct, Candice.

00:37:09.000 That's right.

00:37:10.000 Candace refers to herself in the third person.

00:37:11.000 I'm not kidding.

00:37:12.000 She tweets in the third person.

00:37:14.000 This is not a joke.

00:37:15.000 This is meant to be serious.

00:37:16.000 I'm being half joking because I'm not a Christian when I say that she's a demon, but she does use the we and us when she refers to herself, but she also tweets in the third person. 0.75

00:37:28.000 She had a tweet at me where she says to blame the pending 2026 midterm loss on Candace Owens is wrong or something like that.

00:37:34.000 And I tweeted, like, why is she referring to herself in the third person?

00:37:38.000 That is another characteristic of demonic possession.

00:37:41.000 It's like how that was offensive to someone claiming to be a Christian.

00:37:44.000 It's certainly a lack of self-confidence if you disperse like responsibility for your belief into the people around you and say, we think that you, I don't even like speaking for my wife.

00:37:54.000 I'm not actually married at the moment, but I find it gruesome when a married couple is like, well, we think that I'm like, bro, let her speak for herself.

00:38:01.000 Tell me what you think.

00:38:02.000 Wait, are you Christian?

00:38:04.000 No.

00:38:05.000 Are you Catholic?

00:38:06.000 I lapsed Catholic.

00:38:07.000 You what?

00:38:08.000 Lapsed?

00:38:09.000 Yeah, that means I grew up Catholic, but when I was like 12 or 13, my father.

00:38:13.000 You believe in God?

00:38:14.000 Okay.

00:38:14.000 Yes.

00:38:15.000 So for me.

00:38:15.000 Yeah.

00:38:16.000 And demons too, and angels.

00:38:18.000 100%.

00:38:19.000 This is, you know, the Charlie Kirk thing on the demon side of this.

00:38:24.000 I do believe he was that whole thing was touched with the divine, meaning that the amount of sickness of people dancing on his grave literally showed themselves as demons.

00:38:43.000 And I'm not a Bible thumper or anything.

00:38:45.000 I don't know enough about it.

00:38:46.000 I was raised Catholic.

00:38:48.000 But do you agree that the ugliness reared its head?

00:38:53.000 Yeah.

00:38:54.000 I've never seen anything like that.

00:38:56.000 I think it's demonic.

00:38:57.000 Yes, 100%.

00:38:58.000 There's no other way to describe it.

00:39:00.000 So we're on the same page with that.

00:39:01.000 Yeah.

00:39:02.000 You know, we get into the debate quite a bit about Christianity and the Bible.

00:39:05.000 And I always, I'm not a Christian.

00:39:06.000 However, I do believe in God.

00:39:08.000 I actually do believe in most, I would say, most of the tenets of Christian morality and the commandments.

00:39:15.000 Ten Commandments is pretty spot on, I agree.

00:39:18.000 Yeah, they're fairly based.

00:39:20.000 There are debates over the limits of divinity that I have with Christians, why I don't consider myself Christian.

00:39:26.000 Meaning, what does that mean?

00:39:27.000 Limits of divinity.

00:39:28.000 So there is the omniscience, what is it called?

00:39:30.000 The omniscience paradox or whatever?

00:39:32.000 Wrong person to ask.

00:39:34.000 Well, this is like the Holy Spirit.

00:39:37.000 No, this applies to Judaism all the same.

00:39:38.000 Can God create a boulder so heavy he himself cannot lift it?

00:39:42.000 And Christians believe the answer is no, and I believe the answer is yes. 1.00

00:39:46.000 I believe that paradox is a concept of God.

00:39:48.000 God has the ability to, like, our understanding of logic and paradox is of God, and God's decision as to whether or not it is or is not.

00:39:57.000 Wait, God is God, so he can do anything.

00:39:59.000 Yeah, Christians don't, Christians believe that God is the logos of the universe, therefore he is bound by his nature.

00:40:05.000 Maybe bound isn't the right word, but he is of his nature, and his nature is logic.

00:40:08.000 Ergo, it is illogical and paradoxical to create a boulder you can't lift.

00:40:13.000 So that's Christians are in that camp. 0.99

00:40:16.000 I'm not in that camp.

00:40:18.000 But yes, I do believe that there is a widespread demonic something going on in this country.

00:40:26.000 In the world, bro.

00:40:27.000 What if it's not?

00:40:27.000 In the world.

00:40:28.000 Like, I mean, listen, I'm older than you guys.

00:40:28.000 In the world, bro.

00:40:31.000 I grew up in the Catholic Church.

00:40:33.000 I've been in, but I've been in Hollywood for over 35 years. 0.99

00:40:37.000 And then since COVID, shit's gotten weird. 0.99

00:40:42.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:40:42.000 And I'm telling you, Charlie Kirk, like, it was just my eyes were just, it just, because people were just actively celebrating the most horrific thing you can imagine. 0.95

00:40:55.000 Well, are you familiar with basically the last three months of what Candace Owens' show has been?

00:41:02.000 Somewhat, yeah.

00:41:03.000 I mean, I don't follow it like you, obviously, because you're involved, but yeah, I mean.

00:41:07.000 Well, only recently, because I started calling her out more, and certainly Crowder called her out on a show a while back, and then Ali Bestucki and Ben Shapiro, many people before me.

00:41:18.000 But I think I did it in the most, what's the right way to say it?

00:41:22.000 I don't want to say unhinged because I think it was hinged, but it was aggressive and dramatic and emotional.

00:41:31.000 We'll call it that.

00:41:31.000 So a lot of people then started sharing this clip where I'm like slamming the table, calling her a vile contact.

00:41:36.000 That was last night.

00:41:37.000 Yeah.

00:41:38.000 Yeah.

00:41:39.000 I mean, look, we're on edge.

00:41:40.000 Someone shot the property.

00:41:42.000 Her conspiratards are claiming it never happened, and there's no amount of proof that'll prove it to them.

00:41:47.000 They'll believe anything as long as she says it, even though she never gives any proof.

00:41:50.000 I mean, do you have footage of it?

00:41:53.000 We do, but we're not putting it like, so here's the impossible circumstance.

00:41:56.000 It's up to you.

00:41:57.000 I mean, but if you just show the footage, you'll shut everybody up.

00:41:59.000 Show the people trying to kill me where our cameras are placed.

00:42:02.000 You're right.

00:42:03.000 And show them the entrance.

00:42:04.000 Exactly.

00:42:04.000 My bad.

00:42:05.000 My bad.

00:42:06.000 So I actually, the first thing I did was I talked to the security team.

00:42:09.000 I said, what can we release?

00:42:09.000 And they were like, nothing, because now everyone knows where the cameras are and they know how to get in the property.

00:42:13.000 And I said, okay.

00:42:15.000 Well, Cam Higbee called the sheriff and the sheriff said, yes, Tim Poole's property was shot at and it's not good enough.

00:42:20.000 So here's this is what they said.

00:42:22.000 Tim Higby is who?

00:42:23.000 He's a reporter.

00:42:23.000 Oh, he's the guy that was just on the guy that was reading cops.

00:42:28.000 What if the cops said it?

00:42:30.000 Had what?

00:42:30.000 If the sheriff said, did they report?

00:42:32.000 The FBI said that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie.

00:42:36.000 I don't believe it.

00:42:37.000 I don't know how much any law enforcement, you know.

00:42:40.000 This is the point.

00:42:41.000 Maybe when we leave, because we're planning on relocating immediately, this is our last week here.

00:42:46.000 And then we're having emergency meetings.

00:42:49.000 Because I'll put it, it's not just us.

00:42:51.000 We talked about this yesterday.

00:42:52.000 A lot, like Charlie's dead.

00:42:54.000 Many other prominent personalities are getting death threats, close calls.

00:42:58.000 Benny Johnson, Laurel Loomer, Matt Walsh, Katzerd, had a guy show up.

00:43:03.000 I don't know about all their houses, but at Benny's house, they believe he was armed and he was threatening to kill Matt Walsh's family.

00:43:08.000 So we're having emergency meetings over how we navigate moving forward because it is getting that serious.

00:43:14.000 Maybe when we leave, I'll have no problem being like, yeah, here's the footage.

00:43:18.000 But here's the thing.

00:43:19.000 Our security guys are like, you really think they're going to believe it?

00:43:22.000 They're going to claim it's AI.

00:43:23.000 There's like literally nothing you can do.

00:43:25.000 Very true on the AI.

00:43:26.000 Here's what's crazy.

00:43:27.000 Do I get a little bit of a gold star for showing up this week?

00:43:31.000 Yeah, because I'm over there.

00:43:32.000 I'm just as much as the rest of us.

00:43:34.000 This is your world, bro.

00:43:35.000 I'm with Max, who's out there, and I go, and Max sends me the thing, and I wrote, bro.

00:43:42.000 And I go, I wrote that and I go, is it still on?

00:43:45.000 He goes, yeah.

00:43:47.000 And I go, are we going?

00:43:48.000 It goes, yeah, these things happen.

00:43:51.000 He gets shot at.

00:43:53.000 Meaning, but no, to his defense, it's like, it's that, dude, I would never have done this a year ago, but it's so insane.

00:43:53.000 That's Max.

00:44:01.000 And before the show, we're talking about civil war and how you were educating on civil, whatever.

00:44:05.000 Civil strife and civil strife.

00:44:06.000 That's my saying. 0.99

00:44:07.000 It's fucking insane. 0.99

00:44:09.000 I'm a comedian, if you know, as some people. 0.98

00:44:13.000 And just speaking out, if we're not allowed to give our opinions on things without this insanity, what world do we live in?

00:44:20.000 So it's, I came here because we have to be able to talk.

00:44:26.000 And you are, you know, whatever you're moving on, you're moving on, but you are talking and it's important.

00:44:32.000 We think there's a, you know, they say, when God closes a door, he opens a window.

00:44:35.000 And so one of the biggest challenges that the independent media space, the right-wing space, whatever you want to call it, even though it's really weird to say like.

00:44:43.000 You're like, so far, you're like, to me, to come out here, people are like, oh, he's right-wing, all this stuff.

00:44:47.000 Tamara, you're not, I don't think you're super right-wing.

00:44:51.000 Well, this is the thing.

00:44:52.000 I'm fair.

00:44:53.000 Yeah, you know, but fairly liberal, actually.

00:44:56.000 But left and right, actually.

00:44:58.000 But left and right is not about your political, your politics anymore.

00:45:01.000 It's about your tribe in this conflict.

00:45:05.000 So what we've found is it's a mistake to have all these different little islands everywhere.

00:45:10.000 And so we've been talking with the Rumble guys and we're like, we need a studio.

00:45:13.000 We need to bring everybody together.

00:45:15.000 And we need to, you know, Fox News has this.

00:45:19.000 You're talking about other people like-minded like yourself to be in one hub.

00:45:24.000 Yeah.

00:45:25.000 So like a crowder, I'm not saying you're saying this or, you know, like you're saying, Laura Loomer and all in a place.

00:45:31.000 Yeah.

00:45:32.000 Like Loomer does.

00:45:33.000 Loomer does her thing.

00:45:34.000 Exactly.

00:45:35.000 But more like a channel with news programming and sports and gaming or otherwise.

00:45:40.000 The reason being, we all can't afford security.

00:45:43.000 This is the big challenge, right?

00:45:45.000 So, you know, Candace is not there lying, claiming that we're under financial distress.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, because people are trying to kill us and we have to hire insane amounts of security.

00:45:51.000 Sure, that's absolutely financial distress.

00:45:53.000 The show-wise, we're very profitable.

00:45:55.000 We do great.

00:45:56.000 So the issue now is as the threat level increases and we have to hire more security, which is not something you should have to consider for the most part, but this is the world we're in.

00:46:04.000 Then yes, the costs become, you don't have to pay for it.

00:46:08.000 You can run your business.

00:46:08.000 It's not a core function of producing content.

00:46:11.000 It's a core function of survival when people are shooting at you.

00:46:13.000 If we do a single hub, you get one security company that covers all of the content.

00:46:19.000 So these are just part of the conversations we're having on these emergency meetings, but I think it's potentially awesome because it could mean that content is better in bigger studios with more crossover, new personalities, new shows.

00:46:32.000 I think it could be massive for Rumble, and I'm very excited.

00:46:35.000 It is upsetting because we have friends, we have family, we have community where we are.

00:46:40.000 We've been here for years.

00:46:41.000 We have neighbors.

00:46:42.000 We have stories.

00:46:44.000 And we either go into semi-hiding where I only do solo shows or maybe a show is with a couple of people, but no guests, no public location, hidden, or we bring the shows to a facility that is secure.

00:46:59.000 It was a, you know, Gary the other day had a great idea with a penthouse because then you can't even get up to the top floor.

00:47:04.000 So we're exploring all of these ideas of how you do a studio that is secure.

00:47:08.000 Do you know what that is, bro?

00:47:09.000 Do you know what he's referring to?

00:47:11.000 A penthouse?

00:47:12.000 Yeah.

00:47:12.000 Blade Runner.

00:47:14.000 Have you seen it at least?

00:47:15.000 Have you seen it recently?

00:47:16.000 Have you ever seen it?

00:47:16.000 No.

00:47:18.000 Bro, can you give us the rundown?

00:47:20.000 Yeah, there's a team.

00:47:20.000 Bro.

00:47:21.000 He knows what it is.

00:47:22.000 On his back in the sun, what do you do?

00:47:27.000 No, basically.

00:47:28.000 Turtle over, help him off the road.

00:47:30.000 Well, there's replicants, but that's a whole other thing.

00:47:32.000 But basically, this is not a crazy thought, which is it's a cement tower, let's just say 200 feet, and at the top is a penthouse, and you can't get to it.

00:47:42.000 So society's gone completely apocalyptic, and you can't, it's just like cement.

00:47:46.000 There's nothing to grab onto.

00:47:48.000 You see, that movie Elysium is also like this.

00:47:50.000 So it's a wild thing, but it makes sense.

00:47:54.000 But my question is, has it ever been, are we seeing everything or has it or is it extra?

00:48:02.000 Meaning, has there always been this much threats and political violence?

00:48:05.000 No.

00:48:06.000 Or are more voices are speaking out more now and we see everything because we see everything.

00:48:09.000 There's more threats.

00:48:11.000 There's always than ever, correct?

00:48:13.000 Well, not than ever.

00:48:14.000 We're not in a full-blown civil war, but we are in a meaning like there could have been people in Cuba if they had Twitter going crazy in the 70s.

00:48:24.000 In the early part of the 70s, there was something like 1,500 bombings in the United States.

00:48:30.000 At the Olympics, yeah, remember.

00:48:30.000 So it's ebbed in flow.

00:48:32.000 It's ebbed and flows.

00:48:33.000 Like there was a bomb that blew up in the Capitol in the 80s.

00:48:37.000 I feel like, I'm sorry to cut you off, but I feel like as a kid, when we would see Nightline, that was the only thing we would see, but we would see a lot of violence from over there.

00:48:46.000 Yeah.

00:48:46.000 Whatever over there it was.

00:48:47.000 The United States was more unified in the late 80s, 90s, kind of than it has been since the aughts moving forward.

00:48:55.000 For an independent podcaster is very huge.

00:48:57.000 I'm saying you're taking these massive amounts of security that you need.

00:49:01.000 So this is, and you're saying this is a common thing with a lot of people.

00:49:04.000 Well, yes, there are a lot of people that are in this space that receive death threats.

00:49:09.000 I mean, like, look, I'm not even the lead guy here or anything like that.

00:49:12.000 And there are people that send me crazy messages and stuff like that.

00:49:15.000 So like it is fairly normal to be in this space and receive either hate mail or threats.

00:49:23.000 99% of the time, they're not to be taken seriously.

00:49:27.000 You don't even talk about them.

00:49:29.000 But clearly, there is a small 1% of the time where someone will actually go out and do something crazy.

00:49:36.000 And it's shown like with the attempts on Donald Trump's life, the two last year.

00:49:44.000 Yeah, there was a third guy that was talking.

00:49:46.000 And then there was something that ran up on stage that arguably it could be four.

00:49:51.000 But yes, it has ramped up, but that's why I said earlier, it ebbs and flows.

00:49:54.000 Yeah, I agree with Phil.

00:49:56.000 It ebbs and flows, but I think a major factor here is social media and the proliferation of social media.

00:50:01.000 And it allows people to voice their opinions on this.

00:50:04.000 And unfortunately, it's become totally normalized and celebrated.

00:50:08.000 These murderers oftentimes on the left, I think, you know, people think the ends justify the means.

00:50:13.000 And according to how things are going right now on the right, as Tim has said before, again, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been, you know, the most impactful in a generation. 0.99

00:50:22.000 Going back to Luigi Mangioni, people celebrate this shit. 1.00

00:50:25.000 People celebrate Luigi and say, you know, that our healthcare insurance situation in our country is shit. 0.99

00:50:30.000 How many people did the, did Brian Tom, was it Brian Thompson, I believe? 0.98

00:50:34.000 I believe that was his United Healthcare Insurance Company's CEO at the time said, how many people did he murder by denying different claims and whatnot?

00:50:42.000 So people justify this violence towards people.

00:50:45.000 And I think it increases the violence that we see towards people.

00:50:50.000 It's reinforcing itself.

00:50:52.000 Also, we're coming off the heels of, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention a lot of Zionists are being, and Jews are being targeted for their pro-Israel stances.

00:51:00.000 We've seen a couple of people be murdered outside of some, outside of an Israeli embassy, I believe, in Washington, D.C. Not too recently, Joshua Piro had his building firebombed.

00:51:10.000 And people believe that these people deserve to have violence brought against them because of their political beliefs.

00:51:17.000 And I think we're going to continue to see more of that.

00:51:19.000 People believe that they can take, we believe in vigilantism.

00:51:23.000 And I'll say in Hollywood, too, I feel like we really do romanticize the anti-hero and the idea of the vigilante.

00:51:30.000 But I mean, to am I wrong?

00:51:31.000 I don't know.

00:51:32.000 I don't watch a lot of movies.

00:51:33.000 Dude, you're not wrong about the anti-hero, but Charles Bronson, there was reason.

00:51:40.000 There was context there.

00:51:42.000 You could get behind him.

00:51:44.000 What you're saying.

00:51:45.000 How old are you?

00:51:46.000 Talk about Deathwish.

00:51:47.000 It was a video.

00:51:49.000 I do politics, bro.

00:51:50.000 I don't do politics.

00:51:50.000 Well, you brought it up.

00:51:52.000 I'm closer to your age than you probably.

00:51:54.000 You brought it up.

00:51:55.000 I'm closer to your age than you realize.

00:51:57.000 But would you make anti-hero a justification for why he did what he did?

00:52:01.000 The anti-hero in Hollywood was a character that you get behind.

00:52:04.000 And even executives go, well, what's his justification for it?

00:52:07.000 What you're saying is that these people will justify it.

00:52:10.000 And people like me are going, that's not justifiable.

00:52:13.000 People justify anything.

00:52:14.000 insane.

00:52:15.000 If you're pro-Israel, then you support genocide. 0.82

00:52:17.000 If you support Luigi Mangione, you're against, you know, health insurance companies.

00:52:22.000 Nowadays, the stuff that you're talking about.

00:52:23.000 He's got chicks out in the house for him. 1.00

00:52:26.000 It's crazy.

00:52:27.000 Right now, the stuff that you're talking about is all a narrative that's been built by the left that's really been forced down people's throat for the past 15 to 20 years, right?

00:52:34.000 The idea that people that are somehow aggrieved by society or aggrieved by the system, they have the right to enact violence on people that they perceive as being the oppressor.

00:52:47.000 And that's a narrative that you see across the left.

00:52:49.000 It's the far left narrative being made mainstream because of basically the things that are being taught in colleges and the narrative that you see overall on the left.

00:52:59.000 It's fascinating, too, because I think we're seeing a lot of violence from the far left and LGBTQ groups. 1.00

00:53:03.000 A lot of these disgruntled trans people allegedly, Tyler Robinson had a relationship with some trans person.

00:53:09.000 And one of the reasons for the attack allegedly was because Charlie Kirk was so staunchly against the transgenderism, the ideology of transgenderism.

00:53:19.000 You can hear it in their vernacular, the way they talk.

00:53:21.000 They say things like, you don't think that I have the right to live because you don't believe that a man can become a woman.

00:53:30.000 The way that they perceive things is you don't validate the beliefs that I hold.

00:53:37.000 And that means that you're enacting violence against me. 0.98

00:53:40.000 And instead of acknowledging this very real threat from these trans, literally mentally ill far leftists, we have Crackhead Candace yapping her mouth about this random bullshit, making me reconsider, I don't know, maybe the Civil Rights Act was a mistake. 1.00

00:53:55.000 Maybe forcing businesses to accept everybody was a mistake. 0.99

00:53:59.000 Maybe giving the legal groundwork for reverse discrimination in our country was a mistake.

00:54:05.000 You can't demonize a whole group because of radicals.

00:54:09.000 Well, I mean, that's true, but you can't do that.

00:54:11.000 You can't say LGBTQ.

00:54:13.000 No, no.

00:54:14.000 You can't just throw the whole group away.

00:54:15.000 But you can demonize the radicals.

00:54:17.000 You can demonize radicals.

00:54:18.000 But to your point, Oli, there's a real clear polling poll that came out today that said that Trump's polls, Trump is polling higher than Obama or Bush on this day in their battle of rhetoric because many of these trans people with a lot of mental illnesses will say that Charlie Kirk was advancing a genocide against trans people because he was denying their identities.

00:54:43.000 Therefore, violence against Charlie Kirk was justified.

00:54:46.000 So like it really depends on how you view it because they say that Charlie Kirk was literally being violent to them.

00:54:52.000 He never actually was, but that's how they describe his actions and rhetoric towards them.

00:54:56.000 Yeah.

00:54:56.000 But let's pull this poll up.

00:54:58.000 Check this out.

00:54:59.000 Trump polls higher than Obama and Bush on this day in history.

00:55:04.000 They're trying to claim that Donald Trump is failing.

00:55:07.000 And I certainly have my criticisms and I have no problem criticizing him on the Epstein stuff and being off message.

00:55:13.000 However, when I'm talking to this liberal guy and he says, what's Trump's approval rating?

00:55:18.000 And I'm like, well, in aggregate, it's 44 or whatever, 43.

00:55:22.000 And he's like, that's right.

00:55:23.000 It's low.

00:55:23.000 Obama was worse and Bush was worse.

00:55:25.000 Fact, surprisingly, Trump is doing better than the past two presidents for the same time in his presidency.

00:55:33.000 I think this lends itself further into the conversation we're just having about political violence escalation.

00:55:38.000 There are people in this country that are liberal or on the left.

00:55:42.000 They danced on the grave of Charlie Kirk.

00:55:44.000 They celebrated his death.

00:55:45.000 They celebrate these acts of violence against Nick Sorter and Andy No, and they don't want Trump to be in power. 0.99

00:55:51.000 They call him a white supremacist, a fascist. 0.92

00:55:53.000 But Trump is winning. 0.91

00:55:55.000 Even when they come out and say, look how poorly he's doing in the polls, it's like, oh, wow.

00:55:59.000 Actually, he's better than the past two presidents in the same time period.

00:56:02.000 He's doing very well relatively.

00:56:04.000 This speaks to your point about how the things that Candace is focusing on and making these wild claims and stuff, it totally detracts from the actual important issues, which are things like this, right?

00:56:17.000 Like to keep people motivated to get out and vote for the conservatives and the right in the upcoming election.

00:56:26.000 Cheap housing.

00:56:27.000 We could be talking about graphene housing so easily.

00:56:30.000 Graphene and concrete, you make it's 50% more durable, bulletproof walls, bulletproof, explosion-proof walls that are cheaper and lighter.

00:56:37.000 You don't build houses out of concrete normally.

00:56:40.000 You build the foundation.

00:56:41.000 They're doing it now.

00:56:42.000 You build the house out of wood.

00:56:43.000 Out of 3D printing calculations.

00:56:44.000 Have you heard of superwood?

00:56:46.000 It's like stronger than steel, but made out of pure wood.

00:56:48.000 Sounds like someone's working for big graphene.

00:56:50.000 He is.

00:56:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:52.000 Big carbene.

00:56:53.000 How much stock you got in graphene companies, Ian?

00:56:56.000 Not much.

00:56:56.000 Only a few grand right now.

00:56:58.000 How much do you want to bet?

00:56:59.000 Ian bought a bunch of stock in a bunch of graphene companies, and that's why he comes in the show.

00:57:02.000 He's just pumping it.

00:57:03.000 No, I would start my own.

00:57:05.000 Spider-trading graphene.

00:57:07.000 He is not even savvy.

00:57:09.000 Nobody thinks he would.

00:57:10.000 Nobody would think he'd be business savvy enough to do it.

00:57:13.000 We underestimate you, Ian.

00:57:14.000 Here's the thing with this.

00:57:16.000 I, you know, by playing clubs and, you know, all over the country, this is not surprising to me at all.

00:57:22.000 It wasn't surprising to me.

00:57:23.000 I mean, just play Greenville, North Carolina, or South Carolina, play Scottsdale.

00:57:29.000 But I also play New York and New York.

00:57:32.000 Trump, you can say New York is as blue as you want.

00:57:36.000 It's more red than people realize.

00:57:38.000 LA is more red than people realize.

00:57:40.000 So, yeah, the problem is if you said you like Trump, you got shamed for it.

00:57:46.000 So what do they call it?

00:57:47.000 The silent majority?

00:57:48.000 So that's the thing.

00:57:49.000 And so it's like, I'm not surprised at all.

00:57:52.000 Here's the thing: people come for Trump and they go, oh, six failed businesses or whatever.

00:57:58.000 You try to start a business.

00:58:00.000 I can tell you stocks that I've lost a lot of money in, not graphene.

00:58:04.000 And I've also made money.

00:58:06.000 This is what you do.

00:58:07.000 It's a learning process.

00:58:08.000 That's like going on stage and having a killer joke every time.

00:58:10.000 No, you're going to bomb.

00:58:11.000 It's like making great movies every time.

00:58:13.000 According to Tim's under the mask was a miss.

00:58:15.000 So listen, it's just like, I don't believe all this, but I do believe this because the people do feel this way.

00:58:22.000 Yeah.

00:58:22.000 And to your point, like, or like we were saying earlier, it's important to keep people motivated because this is something that we talk about a lot.

00:58:32.000 Like, if the Republicans lose the majority in Congress this coming election, the Democrats are going to shut everything down.

00:58:42.000 They're not going to, the president is not going to be able to do any more of his agenda.

00:58:46.000 Everything that he gets done up to that point that they can undo, they will undo, which granted, when he's the president, they're not going to be able to because it's been executive orders.

00:58:52.000 But go ahead.

00:58:53.000 Is that like I'm just taking my ball and go home?

00:58:55.000 I mean, it's literally insanity.

00:58:57.000 Yeah, it's just insanity.

00:58:58.000 It's totally tribal politics.

00:59:00.000 That's insanity.

00:59:01.000 If the conservatives lose, if the conservative candidate loses in the next presidential election, because most of the things that Donald Trump has gotten done or gotten accomplished are executive orders, it's all going to be undone.

00:59:11.000 They will open the borders again.

00:59:13.000 You'll have a massive influx of illegals and immigrants and stuff.

00:59:18.000 And you're going to see the DOJ start targeting people that are in the conservative sphere.

00:59:22.000 They're going to go after, they're going to go right back after parents that care about what their kids are learning in school because they've already done all this stuff.

00:59:31.000 And it'll be just like it was during the Biden administration.

00:59:33.000 And this stuff matters.

00:59:35.000 And the Candace stuff, I know people care about it and they, it, you know, it fills the void they have for entertainment, but that stuff doesn't affect the vast majority of Americans.

00:59:46.000 People are scared to speak out because they know that they have an audience overlap with Candace.

00:59:53.000 I know some of these people.

00:59:55.000 I know people listening know who some of these people are.

00:59:58.000 I remember back in 20, I think 2020, 2019, when we were in Jersey, I went to Best Buy.

01:00:04.000 And I can't remember what we were doing by monitors or something.

01:00:06.000 And I met some guy who was like, hey, you're Tim Poole, right?

01:00:09.000 I'm a big fan.

01:00:10.000 And I shook his hand and then immediately starts talking about weird QAnon stuff that I had no idea what he was talking about.

01:00:15.000 And I was like, this doesn't sound right.

01:00:18.000 And he was like, yeah, you know, Q said this or that or otherwise.

01:00:20.000 And I was like, I don't know about all that, brother.

01:00:23.000 That sounds made up.

01:00:24.000 And he's like, no, man, you just got to, you got to look into it.

01:00:27.000 And for me, it was kind of like, I didn't realize those kind of people followed me.

01:00:31.000 I mean, I guess I kind of did, but it's not like the core of our audience.

01:00:35.000 And I think the reality is most commentators have a percentage of their fans that are going to be low reading comprehension.

01:00:44.000 That's not meant as an insult, but low reading comprehension, easily gaslit or manipulated.

01:00:50.000 Candace is building her show around this, intentionally attracting these people. 1.00

01:00:55.000 That's why she says we and us.

01:00:57.000 They even come to like, she's talking about me and our movement.

01:01:00.000 And it's like, she doesn't care about you.

01:01:03.000 She's doing this to build audience. 1.00

01:01:04.000 The reason why, what was her quote?

01:01:06.000 She said, I'm not a flat earther or a round earther.

01:01:08.000 I've abandoned the cult of science or something like that.

01:01:10.000 Yeah.

01:01:11.000 Because she doesn't want to offend anybody.

01:01:13.000 She's going for a low. 1.00

01:01:14.000 It was something like that.

01:01:15.000 It's lowest common denominator.

01:01:16.000 But let's say you're a Twitter personality or a YouTuber.

01:01:20.000 You might be saying like, look, 15, 20% of my audience are big fans of hers.

01:01:24.000 I'd rather not piss them off by saying anything.

01:01:26.000 So nobody wants to say anything.

01:01:28.000 They're all scared of losing audience.

01:01:30.000 Surprisingly, it seems that there are only a small amount of people who aren't scared.

01:01:35.000 Nick Fuentes being one of them.

01:01:37.000 I actually love that clip where he said, someone said, why did you stop noticing when it came to Charlie Kirk?

01:01:43.000 And then he was like, I'm not even going to pretend to rationalize what you're saying. 1.00

01:01:47.000 You're an idiot. 1.00

01:01:48.000 And then he goes, respectfully, no, disrespectfully. 1.00

01:01:51.000 You're more.

01:01:52.000 I thought it was fantastic.

01:01:54.000 That he's not going to play that game.

01:01:57.000 Ellie Betstucky came out and was critical of Candace Owens and politely, much more politely than I would have been, or that I was, and Ben Shapiro.

01:02:05.000 But there are a lot of personalities right now.

01:02:07.000 They don't want to see their subscriber count go down.

01:02:10.000 They don't want to do it.

01:02:11.000 Well, if that's the world we live in, like, you know, my whole point was like, I'm not interested in living in that world.

01:02:15.000 My interest is this.

01:02:17.000 Is Donald Trump doing a good job or not?

01:02:19.000 Because I'm not about the Republican Party.

01:02:21.000 I can't stand the Republican Party.

01:02:23.000 I mean, look at Marjorie Taylor Greene being ousted and fighting with Trump.

01:02:28.000 I think she was one of the best we had, although I think it's fair to have criticisms of her.

01:02:33.000 Totally fine.

01:02:34.000 But she came on this show and talked about how in Congress they weren't actually voting on bills.

01:02:38.000 And she, along with Massey and others, forced them to come and vote on these bills. 0.53

01:02:42.000 And then Trump casts her out. 1.00

01:02:44.000 And the infighting is stupid. 0.99

01:02:45.000 But that being said, I remember COVID. 1.00

01:02:48.000 I remember the vax mandates and the lockdowns.

01:02:51.000 And this was largely led by Democrat governors in these states.

01:02:55.000 They put COVID patients in nursing homes and killed people.

01:02:57.000 Trump is not completely innocent here either.

01:03:00.000 But it was the Republican Party that offered up the pushback that Ron DeSantis in Florida was where AOC was vacationing to get away from her own state's lockdowns. 1.00

01:03:10.000 That if you were voting for a Republican in Congress, they were going to oppose the mask mandates.

01:03:14.000 They were showing up to Congress refusing to wear the masks.

01:03:17.000 That's why I think they're the Washington generals to the Democrats, Harlem, Globetrotters.

01:03:22.000 Still prefer they win, even if it is just a door stop and not an actual effort, you know, not an actual battering ramp like the Democrats are.

01:03:29.000 I will take it, and we can then focus on forwarding the line. 0.82

01:03:34.000 But what we are seeing with the Candace conspiratard reality show garbage, we're going to lose the midterms. 0.99

01:03:41.000 And her only response was to refer to herself in the third person, claiming that it's stupid to blame her for it. 0.98

01:03:48.000 If you're not, because you say you don't subscribe to any party, and I don't either, but I'm considered to the right, which I definitely probably am.

01:03:56.000 What do you, but you still support the Republican candidates because they're the best ones?

01:04:00.000 You're an independent person.

01:04:01.000 Well, right now you want to see Trump go again, and you want to see that.

01:04:05.000 You know, what's interesting is my family grew up Democrat in Chicago, like most people who live in big cities.

01:04:11.000 And then I became fairly moderate, independent, slight libertarian leanings, but the Libertarian Party, I'm not a big fan of because they're kind of wacky.

01:04:18.000 And that meant I was like, you know, I usually vote Democrat.

01:04:21.000 I thought the Republican Party was stodgy, like McCain.

01:04:25.000 Give me a break.

01:04:25.000 Mitt Romney?

01:04:26.000 I'm the vote for that guy.

01:04:27.000 But I didn't vote for Obama.

01:04:27.000 I voted for him the first time, the second time.

01:04:29.000 I did too.

01:04:30.000 I only voted once and I voted for Obama.

01:04:33.000 Me too.

01:04:34.000 So my first time voting for a president was Obama.

01:04:36.000 Second time I said, I'm not interested in this.

01:04:39.000 And same thing.

01:04:40.000 Yeah, me too.

01:04:41.000 Same thing.

01:04:41.000 And that's because I was traveling around the world and people forget this.

01:04:44.000 Bush was made fun of so much. 0.78

01:04:48.000 And America, they said, oh, you're a joke.

01:04:50.000 So I'm like, oh, we need to change hope aggression.

01:04:52.000 So I voted for Obama.

01:04:53.000 We get Hillary versus Trump. 0.64

01:04:55.000 And I just remember I was hanging out in, where was I?

01:04:58.000 I was hanging out with Frank up in just north.

01:05:01.000 I don't know.

01:05:01.000 Was it Connecticut?

01:05:02.000 I forgot where your studio is, Frank.

01:05:03.000 Shout out.

01:05:04.000 And we were watching the debate.

01:05:05.000 And I think it was where Trump said you'd be in jail and we were laughing our asses off. 0.99

01:05:08.000 And I was like, I ain't voting for any of these clowns. 0.99

01:05:10.000 Hillary Clinton wants to go to war with Russia. 0.98

01:05:12.000 I'm not interested in World War III.

01:05:15.000 And Donald Trump is a joker.

01:05:18.000 I'm not interested.

01:05:19.000 I abstained.

01:05:20.000 Trump wins the whole time.

01:05:22.000 I'm basically saying Trump's bad office decorum.

01:05:27.000 The office of the presidency should be better than this, but they are lying about him.

01:05:31.000 Then the election, the primaries come up for the Democrats.

01:05:33.000 And I'm basically like, let's go.

01:05:35.000 Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang donated the maximum.

01:05:39.000 2020, I'm like, let's go.

01:05:40.000 Tulsi and Yang.

01:05:41.000 And what do they do?

01:05:42.000 Joe Biden.

01:05:43.000 So what did I say?

01:05:43.000 I ain't voting for that guy.

01:05:44.000 Donald Trump releases his second party camp, second, his second term, sorry, plan.

01:05:54.000 And I said, I'd be a hypocrite if I ignored all the things he's pointing out, like getting rid of DEI in contracting, no new wars, which he's been really gun for his first time.

01:06:04.000 I said, okay, I'm going to vote for Trump on this one.

01:06:06.000 I still think he's lacking in certain areas, decorum, particularly.

01:06:12.000 Decorum, meaning the way he talks. 1.00

01:06:14.000 Yeah, he's a dick. 1.00

01:06:16.000 But don't you love that he's just blunt? 1.00

01:06:20.000 I would say this.

01:06:21.000 Even to this day, I would prefer a noble leader riding on a steed, championing to his men, we will be a great nation.

01:06:31.000 And he speaks clearly.

01:06:32.000 JD Vance has it.

01:06:33.000 JD?

01:06:34.000 But Donald Trump saying piggy and stuff, it's Trump.

01:06:39.000 I'm used to it.

01:06:40.000 I laugh.

01:06:41.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:42.000 First of all, you're talking to me.

01:06:43.000 So if something's funny, I'm going to forgive it first.

01:06:46.000 That's my language.

01:06:47.000 So yeah, should he say piggy?

01:06:49.000 No.

01:06:50.000 But was it funny?

01:06:51.000 Of course.

01:06:51.000 I laugh my face off.

01:06:53.000 But here's the thing.

01:06:54.000 I've got to push back on this.

01:06:56.000 Hilarious, bro.

01:06:57.000 Is that you say decorum, but can't you just say it's all pomp and circumstance anyway? 1.00

01:07:04.000 Like this shit, there's shit going on behind. 1.00

01:07:06.000 I actually think that he took the office of the president and made it real. 1.00

01:07:11.000 Meaning that it isn't all, it's all bullshit that we had up into him. 0.98

01:07:16.000 And now he's showing warts and all. 0.99

01:07:19.000 Like, dude, think about it.

01:07:20.000 I mean, I can respect that.

01:07:22.000 Think about all the dirty things that presidents have done behind closed doors.

01:07:25.000 I think JD Vance does it.

01:07:26.000 Have you seen what he tweets?

01:07:28.000 I like JD Vance because I think he's smart and chilly.

01:07:31.000 He still does what you want, but he's also real.

01:07:33.000 I like him all.

01:07:34.000 You saw what did he do? 0.99

01:07:35.000 He called someone a dip shit on Adam. 0.99

01:07:36.000 That's okay. 1.00

01:07:37.000 Yeah.

01:07:38.000 No, he's got the professionalism who can sometimes dish it out.

01:07:44.000 So it's kind of a best of both worlds scenario.

01:07:47.000 But, you know, when it comes to the Republican Party, here's the issue.

01:07:50.000 I don't completely agree with him on policy, and they're feckless and ineffective.

01:07:54.000 But here's the thing: the reason I brought up my support for Democrats in 2020 is as an independent, I do not foresee a future where a viable Democrat appears that a moderate could vote for.

01:08:06.000 Dude, use English.

01:08:09.000 AOC is a lunatic, and Zoran Mandani makes promises he can't fulfill. 0.83

01:08:14.000 Elizabeth Warren lies and proposes policies that make literally no sense. 0.98

01:08:20.000 And Chuck Schumer, the same. 0.83

01:08:22.000 Nancy Pelosi is a crackbot. 1.00

01:08:23.000 Thank God she's getting out.

01:08:25.000 What candidate do the Democrats have where I can be like that represents the moderate individual?

01:08:29.000 There's nobody.

01:08:31.000 Well, I know.

01:08:32.000 And I live in California and we have Gavin.

01:08:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:35.000 And there's no way I'm supporting him.

01:08:37.000 The Democrats you would support are working for the president.

01:08:40.000 Tulsi Gabby.

01:08:41.000 Exactly.

01:08:41.000 RFK Jr. Jr. or DNI.

01:08:44.000 HHS secretary right now.

01:08:45.000 Are they Democrats?

01:08:46.000 They were.

01:08:47.000 Tulsi and RFK Jr. are great.

01:08:51.000 Exactly.

01:08:51.000 So are they just Democrat in name, but not really?

01:08:54.000 No, they're not even Democrat in name anymore.

01:08:56.000 Tulsi was in the party and then left the party because he was being treated so poorly and then was asked by Trump.

01:09:01.000 And I think RFK was always independent.

01:09:03.000 RFK ran as a Democrat, I believe, then went independent and then joined the administration.

01:09:03.000 I don't know.

01:09:09.000 I'm going to double-check.

01:09:10.000 That is what a damning thing to happen to a political party.

01:09:13.000 That is.

01:09:14.000 See, the thing is, because you guys know way more than I do, the two-party system, do you agree, needs to be disrupted?

01:09:21.000 Yes.

01:09:22.000 And how will it ever be disrupted?

01:09:24.000 No.

01:09:25.000 I don't know that's possible.

01:09:27.000 Trump was an independent.

01:09:29.000 Huh?

01:09:30.000 I like the two-party system.

01:09:31.000 I think the two-party system is a good thing.

01:09:33.000 I think it helps prevent extremism.

01:09:35.000 I think the moderates in both parties are able to normalize.

01:09:39.000 But there are extremes.

01:09:40.000 There are extremes in the world.

01:09:41.000 For example, the Democrats have the socialists, but they, you know, kind of malign them within the party.

01:09:47.000 And like, there are racists in the Republican Party, but the Republican Party largely, you know, maligns them.

01:09:53.000 So they keep their extremists in check.

01:09:55.000 And if you are popular enough in the party, you could take over the party, which is what President Trump did.

01:09:59.000 President Trump didn't come from like an interest group within the Republican Party, and he managed to take the whole thing over.

01:10:05.000 And if you want to take over the party, I feel like it's there for the taking for both parties.

01:10:08.000 And both parties also evolve as time changes.

01:10:10.000 I think we're going into a realignment right now where both parties are going to be very different in 10 years than they are now.

01:10:15.000 I'm sick of the Republicans doing nothing.

01:10:18.000 They just do nothing.

01:10:18.000 They have power and they do nothing.

01:10:20.000 They do nothing.

01:10:21.000 Well, they're doing mass deportations right now.

01:10:22.000 I think that's the point.

01:10:23.000 No, Donald Trump is its executive branch.

01:10:25.000 Well, they had to pass the one big beautiful bill in the House, which passed most of the president's agenda because they had such a slim majority, as I understand.

01:10:32.000 I will give them that.

01:10:34.000 And it was Thomas Massey, again, who did vote in posture against this.

01:10:37.000 And then it was also like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who you were complimenting earlier, who forced the vote on the Jeffrey Epstein stuff, which sunk a lot of Republican.

01:10:46.000 It wasted time in the Trump screwed up the Epstein stuff, and there's no way around this.

01:10:50.000 That's just end of story.

01:10:52.000 There are, let me ask you this.

01:10:53.000 What do you think about the Epstein stuff?

01:10:55.000 What do I think?

01:10:56.000 It should be 100% exposed.

01:10:58.000 And how do you think Trump handled it?

01:11:02.000 Very weird.

01:11:04.000 He said, we're talking about this again, that whole thing when you ran on.

01:11:08.000 And listen, I love Trump, but to run on that and to it's the most horrific crime that can be committed.

01:11:16.000 And then to sit there and say, I'm going to put out all the names and then just go that one day where he goes, are we still talking about this?

01:11:25.000 Like, what?

01:11:25.000 That was a bizarro land.

01:11:28.000 So, no, it needs to be exposed.

01:11:30.000 And clearly, there's something being covered up.

01:11:33.000 I think this is time.

01:11:35.000 I don't think anything's going to come of the new Jeffrey Trump transparency activity.

01:11:39.000 Trump could have responded.

01:11:40.000 Like, here's the point I made in the beginning.

01:11:42.000 As soon as, you know, Dan and Dan Bongino and Kash Patel do these interviews, and everyone's like, that's weird.

01:11:46.000 Dan Bongino could have literally come out and just said, trust us, guys, we're working on it.

01:11:52.000 It's going to be rough because we're investigating and it may take time.

01:11:55.000 Thank you and have a nice day.

01:11:56.000 And people are like, oh, wow, Dan's on the case.

01:11:58.000 And that's Trump coming out being like, it's a hoax, Democrat hoax, ignore it.

01:12:01.000 That's weird and unnecessary.

01:12:03.000 Yes, bizarre.

01:12:04.000 It's weird that it's a hoax.

01:12:06.000 So I think it's abstraction was a hoax.

01:12:09.000 Okay, that's what a hoax was because, again, between all of us, we know that people who are crazy about the Jeffrey Epstein files will never be satisfied with no matter what comes out.

01:12:16.000 And Democrats were using this as an excuse to bog down the president-Trump administration from accomplishing anything else.

01:12:21.000 So while they were trying to, the president was trying to do anything, deport illegal immigrants, prevent new wars from breaking out.

01:12:27.000 You have Thomas Massey trying to force the vote on something that won't change the hearts and minds of anybody.

01:12:31.000 Listen, Trump could have handled it better.

01:12:34.000 That's the point.

01:12:35.000 Fact.

01:12:36.000 Is it still being handled?

01:12:38.000 Yes.

01:12:38.000 So are we having it come out?

01:12:40.000 A judge just ordered the release starting with the Geelain Maxwell grand jury testimony. 0.84

01:12:45.000 And it's funny because the judge was like, this is ridiculous. 0.57

01:12:47.000 We shouldn't do this. 0.59

01:12:48.000 I don't want to do it anyway.

01:12:48.000 And as I understand, though, Pam Bondi could censor anything that she deems secret to national security or if they're victims that they're going to block out.

01:12:57.000 But again, the people who want to see more Jeffrey Epstein files, again, won't be satisfied with this. 0.91

01:13:02.000 We're not going to get anything substantive, which is why it's stupid because Trump could have literally been like, yeah, we're going to get it out. 0.93

01:13:07.000 We're working on it right now. 0.96

01:13:08.000 Thank you.

01:13:09.000 And then Pam could have just censored whatever they didn't like. 1.00

01:13:11.000 Trump handled it miserably.

01:13:13.000 Sure.

01:13:13.000 I think the evidence has already been destroyed.

01:13:15.000 I don't think we're going to get the truth on this stuff.

01:13:17.000 And I think whether you believe Trump was in on it or not, I don't think Trump is implicated by it.

01:13:21.000 I think he just did not handle it properly.

01:13:24.000 And it created confusion and disarray, which resulted in an opportunity for Democrats to attack.

01:13:29.000 Listen, I don't care all that much about it.

01:13:31.000 We don't need to debate the Epstein stuff.

01:13:32.000 It's coming out.

01:13:32.000 It's done.

01:13:33.000 The point is, Trump has some mistakes, but as a president, he's doing fairly well, as we point out with this polling.

01:13:39.000 The Republicans in Congress are doing very little.

01:13:43.000 I think I agree with you. 0.97

01:13:45.000 I think in particular, the president messed up on this, but Pam Bondi really dropped the ball when she invited all those influencers in and made them look like idiots when they had these binders of allegedly new information regarding Jeffrey Epstein, but didn't. 0.89

01:13:57.000 Tim, I did want to ask you, though, following her announcement that she's not going to be running for re-election, Marjorie Taylor Green's, Marjorie Taylor Greene's been making her rounds around the media circuit. 0.99

01:14:06.000 I don't know if you've seen on CNN, 60 Minutes, bashing the president, essentially.

01:14:11.000 She also went on a couple of podcasts saying, like, explaining how we're going a little bit too far and it's a little bit too cruel how ICE is going around.

01:14:17.000 Trump's going neocon.

01:14:19.000 It's so funny.

01:14:20.000 What does that term mean?

01:14:22.000 So, well, you guys speak some terms sometimes.

01:14:24.000 It means you're not limperisted.

01:14:25.000 If you're a neocon, you're not limp risted.

01:14:27.000 That's really what it comes down to.

01:14:29.000 What is it?

01:14:29.000 You're not limperisted.

01:14:31.000 If you're a neocon, you're just not a huge pussy. 1.00

01:14:31.000 You have a spine. 1.00

01:14:34.000 That's really what it comes down to.

01:14:35.000 Neoconservative is a political term that usually reference the conservative, the elements of the Republican Party and conservatives in this country who believe in foreign intervention, war, the petrodollar, establishing U.S. military might around the world.

01:14:47.000 Peace through strength.

01:14:47.000 In short, neocons believe in so-called peace through strength, that we could use our military and our huge military to help instill peace across the country and plan it.

01:14:56.000 Sometimes that leads to war and conflicts, but that's the ideology of the neocon.

01:15:01.000 Peace through strength.

01:15:02.000 Yeah, but we should use.

01:15:02.000 Peace.

01:15:04.000 Is that bad?

01:15:05.000 Well, Tim thinks so.

01:15:06.000 So let me ask you.

01:15:07.000 So Rhino is Republican in name only, meaning that they are, but they don't subscribe to all the Republicans.

01:15:12.000 Rhino is just because you're pissed at somebody and you want to slander them as a Republican.

01:15:15.000 So, for example, I'll say, you know, Thomas Massey's a Rhino because he never votes with Republicans or not on the most substantiative question.

01:15:22.000 But bro, that's like my Charles Bronson for you.

01:15:24.000 I don't know who Thomas Massey is.

01:15:27.000 I got a question.

01:15:28.000 Should we have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan this year? 0.97

01:15:31.000 No, Originally.

01:15:34.000 Back in 2000, should we have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?

01:15:37.000 All right, dude, this is a question.

01:15:39.000 Hard on a hard question.

01:15:40.000 So let me ask you this.

01:15:42.000 I don't, you know, I don't want any wars.

01:15:45.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:15:45.000 Yeah.

01:15:46.000 I'm not a neocon.

01:15:46.000 Obviously.

01:15:48.000 We live in a crazy world.

01:15:50.000 But if it was for oil and for us to take the oil and raid the country, then no.

01:15:58.000 But if it was to protect innocent people and protect them from a dictator, then yes.

01:16:03.000 No, I think it was.

01:16:04.000 Then I would say you are in neocon territory.

01:16:08.000 I don't know.

01:16:09.000 No.

01:16:10.000 According to Tim.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, I'd say no, because I think the idea that you want to invade China next?

01:16:15.000 No.

01:16:17.000 I don't want to invade anybody.

01:16:21.000 Why invade Iraq?

01:16:23.000 Because I have no idea.

01:16:24.000 Was it for oil or was it for weapons of mass destruction?

01:16:27.000 And then, wasn't there the whole there were no WMDs?

01:16:30.000 Well, for oil. 0.73

01:16:32.000 I would say for oil is a simplification.

01:16:34.000 It's control of oil supply as a byproduct of U.S. domination in the Middle East.

01:16:40.000 So we're going to go to the English.

01:16:42.000 They wanted the Suez Canal.

01:16:43.000 They want to control the Suez Canal.

01:16:45.000 That's all it is, real.

01:16:46.000 And actors need it.

01:16:48.000 So let's go simple.

01:16:50.000 Because I'm telling you, this will help, dude.

01:16:51.000 Even though I know you got a real smart crowd, you're saying that we invaded it, just invoided it, invaded it for oil, correct?

01:16:58.000 To steal their oil?

01:16:59.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:17:00.000 So no.

01:17:01.000 Okay.

01:17:02.000 However, that would be wrong.

01:17:03.000 Do we all agree with that would be wrong?

01:17:04.000 We're taking their oil.

01:17:05.000 It's not our oil.

01:17:06.000 You agree with that?

01:17:08.000 That's such a hard thing.

01:17:09.000 Here's the issue.

01:17:10.000 If they're evil?

01:17:11.000 No, if they're evil, obviously there's the question is simply like this. 1.00

01:17:16.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00

01:17:17.000 Here's your answer. 1.00

01:17:18.000 Yeah, what is pie?

01:17:19.000 Ian, what's pie?

01:17:20.000 Yeah, what's 3.1415?

01:17:21.000 It's whatever.

01:17:23.000 Hold on, no, Exactly.

01:17:23.000 Or pie.

01:17:25.000 The number.

01:17:26.000 How many digits of pie can you give me?

01:17:29.000 Seven.

01:17:30.000 Five.

01:17:30.000 3.1415.

01:17:32.000 That's all.

01:17:33.000 Nine.

01:17:34.000 Two.

01:17:34.000 I don't know.

01:17:37.000 How many digits of pie do you know?

01:17:39.000 Dude, 3.144.

01:17:40.000 And I think it keeps going.

01:17:41.000 3.144.

01:17:42.000 It's infinite.

01:17:42.000 Infinite.

01:17:42.000 Oh, 3.14159.

01:17:45.000 And I think two is next, but that's about as far as I know of pie.

01:17:47.000 And I'm not saying this to be like, haha, I got you.

01:17:49.000 You don't know what pie is.

01:17:50.000 I don't.

01:17:50.000 My point is.

01:17:52.000 If Ian started sitting here reciting pie to the 100th digit, you'd be like, I don't know if that's true or not.

01:17:57.000 If I tried to explain to you the history of the region and the U.S. military operation, you'd be like, I don't get it.

01:18:02.000 So the easiest way to describe it is oil.

01:18:03.000 So what I'm trying to tell you is you said, should we invade?

01:18:06.000 I'm not an expert on geopolitics or anything like that.

01:18:10.000 So you said, should we invade it?

01:18:12.000 If they were a threat to us, then yeah, probably we should, yeah, we should protect ourselves.

01:18:17.000 Now, here's the question: we're going to just steal their resources.

01:18:19.000 What do you mean by threat? 0.99

01:18:21.000 If they're going to nuke us, if they're going to make a dirty bomb, if they're going to drive something into the fucking LBC, you know what that is? 0.99

01:18:27.000 Long beach. 0.99

01:18:28.000 So here's the issue. 0.99

01:18:28.000 With the two nipples in San Diego. 0.99

01:18:31.000 The real issue is really simple. 1.00

01:18:33.000 Dirty bomb dirty bomb Debbie. 1.00

01:18:36.000 The real issue is that Saddam Hussein wanted to trade oil outside of the U.S. dollar. 0.92

01:18:40.000 The U.S. controls what's called the petrodollar.

01:18:42.000 Yes.

01:18:42.000 If you want to buy oil, you got to use U.S. dollars.

01:18:44.000 Yes. 1.00

01:18:44.000 So the U.S. said, kill him. 1.00

01:18:46.000 We invaded Afghanistan for nebulous reasons, largely, I'd imagine, to put military bases surrounding Iran for a pincer strike because John Bolton wanted to invade Iran.

01:18:55.000 Because Iran also doesn't want to be on the petrodollar.

01:18:58.000 Should we bomb drug boats coming from Venezuela?

01:19:00.000 That's a different story.

01:19:01.000 And the answer is, in this circumstance, with what is currently going on, I would say yes.

01:19:06.000 Many people would believe that that makes you an eocon.

01:19:09.000 Come on. 1.00

01:19:09.000 Oh, shut up. 1.00

01:19:09.000 No, no, I'm sure. 1.00

01:19:10.000 Go ask your libertarian friends.

01:19:11.000 All of them would call you a neoconno.

01:19:14.000 That is not the same thing.

01:19:15.000 I agree with you, but writ large, any military action done abroad makes you a neocon.

01:19:20.000 That's not abroad.

01:19:21.000 Neocon is what?

01:19:23.000 Neo-consonant.

01:19:24.000 Conservative.

01:19:24.000 Okay.

01:19:25.000 But it's meant to be neoconservative.

01:19:26.000 It's a hawking.

01:19:27.000 It's like the 80s.

01:19:28.000 Neo-Nazi, new Nazi, all that stuff.

01:19:30.000 So let's go slow because you said three things there.

01:19:30.000 Okay.

01:19:32.000 Let's go back to what you just said.

01:19:34.000 You said something about Iran.

01:19:36.000 Right.

01:19:36.000 I forget what you said.

01:19:37.000 I wanted to comment on it.

01:19:38.000 Iran won't fall in line with the swift payment system, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund.

01:19:42.000 So you're saying every dollar that we have is backed by oil.

01:19:46.000 Petro.

01:19:47.000 Yes.

01:19:48.000 Now that is true.

01:19:49.000 Yes.

01:19:49.000 In the world?

01:19:50.000 Yes.

01:19:51.000 So, but not gold.

01:19:52.000 That's all BS.

01:19:53.000 Right.

01:19:53.000 So now Saddam wanted to go off of that and back it with what?

01:19:58.000 Potentially Euro?

01:20:00.000 Euro dollars?

01:20:02.000 Euro.

01:20:02.000 European currency.

01:20:03.000 But what are they backed by?

01:20:04.000 That's just paper, too.

01:20:06.000 Indeed, it would make them backed by oil.

01:20:08.000 The idea right now is if you are in a country and you want to buy oil, you need to buy dollars first.

01:20:13.000 We are the, and this is dying, especially with Saudi Arabia getting off the petro dollar lease, 50, which ended, it was a 50-year lease and it ended recently.

01:20:22.000 So now the issue is we don't produce anything here.

01:20:26.000 We sent off our manufacturing to China, to Canada, to Mexico, to Indonesia, but we have the military.

01:20:32.000 And the military controls the petrodollar.

01:20:35.000 So we keep telling these other countries, if you want to buy oil, you buy dollars from us.

01:20:39.000 We set the price.

01:20:41.000 However, now what's been happening is that Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, other countries are trading in yuan or rubles.

01:20:48.000 This is putting the petrodollar at risk.

01:20:49.000 So if you go back in time 20 years, you have Saddam Hussein.

01:20:53.000 He says, we're considering trading oil in other countries.

01:20:56.000 Euros, yeah.

01:20:57.000 He's called the dollar, the currency of the enemy.

01:20:57.000 It was Euros.

01:20:59.000 Indeed. 1.00

01:21:00.000 So then we said, oh, geez, better go kill him. 1.00

01:21:02.000 Then we have Muamar Gaddafi. 0.97

01:21:03.000 What did he want to do?

01:21:04.000 Gold dinars.

01:21:05.000 And he wanted to create the African Union.

01:21:06.000 So what did Hillary Clinton say?

01:21:07.000 We came, we saw he died.

01:21:09.000 So people say that Gaddafi wasn't as bad as they say, correct? 0.88

01:21:14.000 Well, I don't know enough about life in Libya.

01:21:18.000 What I can say is after he died, warring militias took over and are massacring each other, and the slave trade is back.

01:21:24.000 So I think two things could be true at once.

01:21:26.000 I know less about Gaddafi than I do about Saddam Hussein, but Saddam Hussein genocided Kurds and other ethnic minorities in the country.

01:21:33.000 He used chemical weapons against them.

01:21:34.000 He also, I believe, had an assassination, or he had plans to assassinate George Bush Sr.

01:21:39.000 Then there was obviously Gulf War I where he was trying to invade Kuwait.

01:21:43.000 So he was a destabilizing actor in the region and we wanted a democratic ally where we could export their oil and benefit from having our company.

01:21:51.000 Let's just go simple here.

01:21:52.000 Don't go to that story yet.

01:21:53.000 Jesus, you're going to such a different story than this.

01:21:55.000 Let's go.

01:21:56.000 First of all, are you military, bro?

01:21:58.000 Are you military?

01:21:59.000 Oh, he's former military.

01:22:00.000 Barely, but yeah.

01:22:01.000 Thank you for your service. 1.00

01:22:02.000 So do you agree that Saddam Hussein, for everything that you know, was an evil, evil fucking person? 0.99

01:22:10.000 I don't know that. 1.00

01:22:11.000 Well, let me explain something to you.

01:22:11.000 Okay.

01:22:13.000 In 2007, thank you for your service, brother.

01:22:16.000 I went over to Baghdad in Kuwait, and I went to one of his palaces.

01:22:22.000 So here's just one simple thing.

01:22:23.000 Do you know that Saddam Hussein, every night, let's just say he had 45 palaces, every night they had have a full course meal set because he might show up. 0.67

01:22:31.000 Wow.

01:22:32.000 And you never know if he's going to show up.

01:22:34.000 And do you know that I went to one of his palaces and there was something called the elevator, the golden elevator, which was the doors are golden.

01:22:42.000 And the crimes that were committed in this elevator and what I was told and what I saw from the handprints were enough to make it sick.

01:22:52.000 I hear you. 0.98

01:22:53.000 So what I'm saying is, from our military, from a general who literally looked like, you know, Robert from Apocalypse Now, like these lifer guys told me that it was, they fucking took out a horrific person. 0.97

01:23:06.000 Where do we draw the line?

01:23:08.000 I think what we're here right now, and I have to get really passionate about this, is what we've lack in this world is empathy, human connection feeling. 0.99

01:23:21.000 That's why Charlie Kirk fucked me up so much is because when you see blood squirting out of a person's fucking neck and you're a person that has blood in your neck, you should be like, that's fucking crazy. 0.99

01:23:35.000 That could be anybody. 0.99

01:23:37.000 And so that's the human thing of empathy.

01:23:41.000 So which countries should we invade?

01:23:44.000 Again, I'm not a geopolitical person, but any, we shouldn't, we shouldn't invade anyone. 1.00

01:23:49.000 We should be in our own shit, in our own shit. 1.00

01:23:51.000 But if people are trying to fuck with us, it came from like Russia. 1.00

01:23:55.000 If people are trying to fuck, but how? 1.00

01:23:58.000 Well, China's here. 0.99

01:23:59.000 Dude, if I were to take you in Beverly Hills right now, guess what?

01:24:02.000 Some of the richest people are Chinese.

01:24:05.000 Indeed, they're buying up our farmland.

01:24:06.000 They're buying flying sorties in our airspace.

01:24:11.000 Well, I don't know.

01:24:13.000 We have military practice.

01:24:15.000 Flying planes around our earth.

01:24:16.000 We've got IP, intellectual property, being stolen by China every day, and they're replicating, stealing our labor. 1.00

01:24:21.000 There's the thousand talents program where they're paying off our academics to steal information from our country that we developed and then reproduce it for pennies on the dollar.

01:24:30.000 They are absolutely aggressive upon us. 0.98

01:24:32.000 And more importantly, they are raping the Uyghur Muslims and then force them to get abortions. 1.00

01:24:38.000 That's going on right now. 1.00

01:24:39.000 The point is, there are many evil dictators.

01:24:42.000 There are many evil countries.

01:24:43.000 Which ones do we decide to invade?

01:24:46.000 Okay.

01:24:48.000 That's a point, a very valid point.

01:24:51.000 And my question is: I don't like it that the USA plays cop to the world, but I don't know.

01:25:00.000 I don't have that answer, dude, because you're right.

01:25:02.000 There's probably, we would be, our military would never get arrested if we went every country on the planet.

01:25:07.000 100%.

01:25:08.000 100%. 0.99

01:25:09.000 And anyone who says shit about the USA and about, oh, this tough and tough, tough, you know what? 0.99

01:25:15.000 Go to the Congo. 0.99

01:25:18.000 Just go there.

01:25:20.000 Go to.

01:25:21.000 Yeah.

01:25:21.000 Thank you.

01:25:22.000 Go to the Eastern Bloc of Europe. 0.98

01:25:24.000 Like, these are people that haven't left and they don't understand how good it is in America.

01:25:30.000 So I understand what you're saying.

01:25:31.000 Yeah.

01:25:32.000 But I'm going to tell you that I don't know, but you're right.

01:25:35.000 We would be the busiest military in the world.

01:25:38.000 We got a country to invade.

01:25:39.000 We got the story from the New York Post.

01:25:41.000 It's time for the U.S. to invade Indonesia because they arrested Bonnie Blue. 0.76

01:25:45.000 Actually, she's British, so the UK would have to do it, but they're a little preoccupied at the moment.

01:25:49.000 Porn star Bonnie Blue face up to 15 years in jail after being detained over a bang bus stunt in Bali.

01:25:56.000 Apparently, she was soliciting like 18-year-olds to do porn. 1.00

01:26:00.000 Good grief.

01:26:01.000 So she's facing 15 years in prison. 0.99

01:26:04.000 And, yo, if prosecuted and found guilty, 15 years and a fine of $541,000.

01:26:11.000 Now, what they're saying is they might just deport her.

01:26:14.000 They might say, look, get her out of the country. 1.00

01:26:17.000 Get these guys out of the country.

01:26:18.000 We don't want it here. 0.93

01:26:20.000 However, there is a concern that because she is such a disgustingly high-profile, like disgusting and high-profile person, she's famous for banging 1,057 guys in 12 hours. 1.00

01:26:30.000 Indonesia may be offended and they won't, you know, it's one thing if some random person shows up to try to do porn and say, get out of here. 0.95

01:26:37.000 You can't be here.

01:26:37.000 It's another thing when Bonnie Blue comes here and says, I will defile a nation.

01:26:41.000 And so one of the theories from legal experts is they may want to make an example out of her, which means if they don't deport her, they may keep her in prison for just a couple of months. 0.99

01:26:52.000 So it may be in February, end of February, they finally let her go.

01:26:55.000 However, some do predict they'll want to make an example out of her and actually prosecute and send her to prison for up to 15 years. 0.96

01:27:02.000 So she going bye bye.

01:27:03.000 Imagine being the secretary of state of some country and like you have a ton of important political issues and sensitivities that you have to deal with.

01:27:10.000 And then like this comes across your desk. 0.97

01:27:11.000 It's like, oh yeah, there's some whore in Indonesia that was trying to bang, I don't know, 20 dudes for some video. 1.00

01:27:17.000 And like, I don't know, how are you going to get her out? 0.99

01:27:19.000 How are you going to negotiate with the other side?

01:27:20.000 You have to like call up your Indonesian counterpart and be like, oh, yeah, gee whiz, like reading the news about this Bonnie Blue girl.

01:27:26.000 And she's like, yeah, she's defiling our country and making us look doing an Indian accent. 1.00

01:27:30.000 It's just a funny situation.

01:27:32.000 I imagine.

01:27:34.000 What is your take on this?

01:27:35.000 Because I have my... 1.00

01:27:37.000 I think it's a Muslim-majority country or an Islamic country, and I think they take that shit seriously. 1.00

01:27:41.000 Didn't you go to school there for a day or two, Serge? 1.00

01:27:43.000 Am I doxxing you?

01:27:45.000 Singapore, Indonesia.

01:27:46.000 It's all in that islandy Southeast. 0.99

01:27:49.000 It's a bad idea to do this kind of stuff.

01:27:51.000 Like going to going to countries where you know they don't take this, take kindly to this kind of stuff and then doing it so that way you can make content, you know, like intentionally doing this in a place where it's risque.

01:28:04.000 So that way you can get hopefully a terrible idea.

01:28:07.000 Bro, she would be executed in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia, and North Korea. 0.96

01:28:14.000 List of countries to liberate, I guess.

01:28:16.000 No.

01:28:17.000 No.

01:28:18.000 Again, liberate.

01:28:19.000 Why?

01:28:20.000 Because they want to allow Bonnie Blue to bang a thousand guys. 1.00

01:28:22.000 Yeah, you legally, if you don't allow that, then I guess we will liberate you and liberate your women, I guess. 1.00

01:28:28.000 Again, it goes back. 1.00

01:28:29.000 You have the right to be a whore. 1.00

01:28:30.000 Women in our country have the right to be as big of whores as they want to be. 1.00

01:28:34.000 But that's not free speech, I guess. 0.99

01:28:37.000 Let me pose a bigger question here.

01:28:39.000 So first of all, it shows you how free you are in America that you can do this.

01:28:44.000 I'm actually turned off right now.

01:28:46.000 By her?

01:28:47.000 100%.

01:28:49.000 And that's coming from me.

01:28:51.000 And I think our culture has gotten so sexualized that it's bizarrely turning me off.

01:28:57.000 And I think that once you bang 15 guys in a day, I think you would be done.

01:29:02.000 But to do 1,000 in 12 hours, so it's sad what this woman does. 0.88

01:29:07.000 Honest to God.

01:29:08.000 Like there's something beyond gone.

01:29:12.000 And I don't think it's a joke. 0.98

01:29:15.000 I think it's fucking sad. 1.00

01:29:17.000 And there's a theory out scientifically that you have that much penis and fluid exchange that it ruins you as a woman. 1.00

01:29:27.000 And there's also, if you want to go into the demon shit called succubus. 1.00

01:29:30.000 How does it ruin her? 0.98

01:29:32.000 Like, I believe it does too, but okay, do you believe, do you understand that energy?

01:29:36.000 Do you believe an energy is real?

01:29:38.000 Well, yes or no?

01:29:40.000 Yes.

01:29:40.000 You understand what these energy?

01:29:43.000 The water experiment.

01:29:44.000 Do you know what that is?

01:29:45.000 Yeah, I don't believe that's real.

01:29:46.000 You don't believe it at all.

01:29:47.000 They've done more.

01:29:48.000 You don't believe it at all.

01:29:49.000 I don't believe it at all.

01:29:50.000 What's the water experiment?

01:29:51.000 Slow down.

01:29:52.000 Are you referring to the molecules changing shape based on the emotion?

01:29:55.000 Yeah, I don't believe that.

01:29:56.000 You don't believe it at all.

01:29:57.000 It's by Emoto, a Japanese scientist.

01:29:59.000 But they say that.

01:29:59.000 So you just got mad about somebody not believing what happened to you, but now you don't believe this.

01:30:04.000 That was proven by science.

01:30:05.000 It wasn't proven by science.

01:30:06.000 100%.

01:30:06.000 Japanese scientists.

01:30:07.000 That's not correct.

01:30:08.000 It actually is.

01:30:09.000 What they found is that different water had different shapes.

01:30:13.000 There's no correlation between the emotion.

01:30:14.000 They couldn't replicate hate, created the same molecule.

01:30:16.000 Have you ever heard of something called cell jumping?

01:30:19.000 It's when you're around somebody so much that you kind of take on certain traits because their cells in your cells express well.

01:30:19.000 What's that?

01:30:25.000 That the same thing is why a couple of things is you are the summation of the five people who surround you.

01:30:29.000 100%.

01:30:30.000 It's not biological, it's behavioral.

01:30:32.000 I used to believe that.

01:30:33.000 And I know I sound like I'm from Oregon right now and I'm making a dream catcher, but dude, this changed me. 0.99

01:30:39.000 And there's some truth to this shit. 0.99

01:30:41.000 And it has to be proven because someone like you who has a big voice has to see it. 1.00

01:30:45.000 And I don't, I'm not going to convince you right now, but I believe it's more real than just darty farty shit. 0.71

01:30:50.000 If they can take water, charge it with emotion, and the molecules, let me finish, take a certain shape, then they can replicate that in another bit of water more than once, doing a couple times to prove that it can be repeated. 0.97

01:31:04.000 I'll believe it.

01:31:05.000 They never did that.

01:31:06.000 I think they have.

01:31:07.000 But number two is: do you understand that?

01:31:10.000 Okay, do you do you believe that words have power?

01:31:14.000 What does that mean?

01:31:15.000 I used to not think this.

01:31:16.000 Words have power.

01:31:17.000 If you say words, you'll have power with the word.

01:31:21.000 The word becomes powerful.

01:31:23.000 Speech and rhetoric can have worldly impact.

01:31:27.000 100%.

01:31:27.000 So, for instance, if you were to go, if you were to go to bed every night, there's a way of psychology.

01:31:34.000 I'm going to try to explain this simply.

01:31:36.000 The first thing you have to do is say what you want.

01:31:38.000 So, tomorrow, if you say, I want to jog a mile, I want to jog a mile.

01:31:42.000 I want to jog a mile.

01:31:44.000 It's either 30 or three times that you say this before you go to sleep that it starts embedding itself onto yourself, in your system, your neurological system.

01:31:53.000 I want to jog a mile.

01:31:54.000 Then you write it down: I want to jog a mile.

01:31:57.000 I want to jog a mile.

01:31:59.000 I want to jog a mile.

01:32:00.000 You do this.

01:32:01.000 It's called it's subconsciously training yourself.

01:32:04.000 So, boom, the next day, there's a very good chance that you will try to jog a mile.

01:32:09.000 Simple, that is scientific.

01:32:11.000 Positive affirmations.

01:32:12.000 Yes, and it sounds crazy, but it's natural.

01:32:15.000 I want to put it like this.

01:32:16.000 But what I'm saying is, if go ahead, what were you the question?

01:32:20.000 I have to do with this.

01:32:22.000 I can understand that maybe some people need to do that.

01:32:25.000 You know, if they're going to run a mile, me, I literally just decide if I want to run a mile, I'll go do it.

01:32:30.000 I don't need to affirm it to myself or anything like that.

01:32:32.000 Is it psychological or physical? 0.99

01:32:34.000 It's what I used to think it was fucking, I used to think this was hippie shit, like psychological, which is fine. 1.00

01:32:40.000 And I don't know. 0.99

01:32:40.000 But no, I thought it was like energy, which sounds hippie, psychological, which has an effect on us. 0.99

01:32:46.000 And now it's becoming real.

01:32:47.000 Do you believe in the power of numbers?

01:32:50.000 That I do believe in, but I don't know enough about it.

01:32:53.000 I want to pivot back to this story real quick and like anything.

01:32:57.000 No, just because we had a numerology yesterday.

01:33:00.000 Is that true?

01:33:01.000 Do you believe it?

01:33:01.000 Numerology?

01:33:02.000 No, I don't.

01:33:03.000 I intentionally read the wrong reading for a lot and he believed it.

01:33:06.000 And then I was flattered.

01:33:07.000 A thousand guys.

01:33:08.000 Let's say a thousand guys. 1.00

01:33:09.000 You have sex with a thousand guys and a thousand different types of semen gets in you. 1.00

01:33:13.000 You don't think that's going to be a good thing? 0.98

01:33:14.000 I don't think it's numerology as to why that's gross and bad, though.

01:33:17.000 But you don't think it's going to ruin you?

01:33:18.000 You don't think it could ban energy?

01:33:20.000 I don't know.

01:33:20.000 I wouldn't call it energy.

01:33:21.000 I call it sperm and STDs potentially.

01:33:23.000 But here's the thing about that is porn in social media has evolved so much in the past 30 years that its impact on society and men and particularly young men, I feel like we really need to understand.

01:33:36.000 So when I was a child, I think most of the viewers here are probably older than I probably understand more deeply than I do.

01:33:40.000 But when I was a child, in order to see a picture of a naked woman, I remember like the only place that it really existed was like in a gas station.

01:33:47.000 The internet didn't work well enough.

01:33:49.000 I wouldn't understand how to get on the websites.

01:33:50.000 I didn't have access to a computer like that.

01:33:52.000 To get any sort of content like that, I'd have to like run in a gas station, be in an area that I wasn't supposed to, like peek through like a hidden section and like grab a dirty magazine.

01:34:02.000 I'd have to open it up because it wouldn't be on the cover and like look at a Playboy magazine. 0.92

01:34:05.000 But the barrier to entry to watch hardcore porn of dozens of people banging this prostitute or whatnot, it's just too easy. 0.97

01:34:13.000 And then the downstream consequences of that are extremely bad. 0.95

01:34:17.000 And we have yet to fully comprehend.

01:34:18.000 This comes with like the ubiquity of the internet and social media just being so apparent.

01:34:23.000 And it's not even like just the hardcore stuff. 0.99

01:34:25.000 It's just like so many of my buddies are just scrolling their Instagram feeds and it's fat asses and big chests. 0.99

01:34:30.000 And it's just like, guys, it's the middle of the fucking day. 0.99

01:34:32.000 Like, what are we even doing here? 0.99

01:34:33.000 Like, you're going from political content, news, to just like softcore porn. 0.96

01:34:37.000 And it's, it's just become so normalized and disgusting. 0.58

01:34:40.000 Like, I wouldn't have been able to get that stuff in magazines.

01:34:43.000 Now you get that stuff just scrolling.

01:34:44.000 And it seems as though the most lucrative thing that most young women could do is get into porn. 0.92

01:34:48.000 And I don't know where that leaves us, but the societal consequences of this have yet to be seen, and they're going to be really bad.

01:34:55.000 Should she be in jail for what?

01:34:57.000 For this. 0.95

01:34:58.000 For having sex with men on camera? 0.97

01:35:01.000 I guess it was because she was attempting to. 0.75

01:35:03.000 They arrested her and charged her. 0.74

01:35:04.000 She didn't even have sex. 1.00

01:35:07.000 I think she might have. 0.86

01:35:09.000 I think it was producing pornography.

01:35:11.000 Was it might be legal in Indonesia or there's OnlyFans model. 1.00

01:35:16.000 Just call her a hooker, dude. 1.00

01:35:17.000 Here's a question for you: Should it be legal to bang 1,000 guys in 12 hours in the United States? 1.00

01:35:23.000 Should the government have a bullet to your head, a gun to your head? 0.99

01:35:27.000 He asked a question. 1.00

01:35:28.000 Start answering this.

01:35:29.000 You guys start with you and go around.

01:35:33.000 Answer the question.

01:35:33.000 He asked that.

01:35:34.000 Should the government?

01:35:38.000 The answer is simple.

01:35:40.000 Okay.

01:35:40.000 Yes or no?

01:35:41.000 The answer is yes.

01:35:42.000 Answer is yes.

01:35:42.000 What was the question?

01:35:44.000 Should it be illegal to bang 1,000 guys in 12 hours? 0.99

01:35:48.000 Is it the thousandth dick or is it the 500? 0.95

01:35:51.000 I don't think it should be. 0.75

01:35:52.000 I don't think it should be illegal.

01:35:54.000 It's condemnable and moral disgusting. 0.98

01:35:56.000 I think you're morally fucking illegally. 0.99

01:35:59.000 You shouldn't do that. 0.98

01:36:00.000 You should not do that.

01:36:01.000 I think there are lines and limits to everything.

01:36:04.000 And the question is, what do we tolerate?

01:36:06.000 What don't we?

01:36:07.000 And while I certainly think there's an argument for why prostitution should be illegal, two consenting adults want to engage in an activity and then they want to exchange money. 1.00

01:36:16.000 It's stupid that you could be like, just don't pay me. 0.98

01:36:18.000 Otherwise, I go to jail, but let's do it anyway. 1.00

01:36:20.000 Oh, I'll buy you dinner later or something.

01:36:22.000 It's like, get out of here.

01:36:23.000 What's the menu?

01:36:24.000 However, a man.

01:36:25.000 So all of these things are always defined by legislation that we, the people, will determine to be reasonable.

01:36:25.000 Right.

01:36:32.000 What I mean is, law on the books isn't always enforced.

01:36:35.000 Like in West Virginia, it's illegal to cohabitate, but nobody gets arrested for it.

01:36:38.000 Cohabitate, meaning I have a girlfriend?

01:36:40.000 A man and a woman cannot live together in West Virginia. 1.00

01:36:42.000 It's illegal.

01:36:43.000 Unless you're married?

01:36:45.000 No, you're not.

01:36:45.000 Yes.

01:36:46.000 That's not true.

01:36:46.000 It absolutely is true.

01:36:48.000 You can't live in a house.

01:36:50.000 And can you just say you're not hooking up?

01:36:52.000 It is illegal in West Virginia to cohabitate.

01:36:55.000 Meaning you can't have a female roommate? 0.99

01:36:58.000 Yes.

01:36:58.000 Dude, every stereotype of West Virginia just got reinforced.

01:37:03.000 Oh my God.

01:37:04.000 Are you kidding?

01:37:05.000 You should live with your cousin.

01:37:08.000 Come on, that's impressive.

01:37:09.000 You pretend you're not.

01:37:09.000 I got to stop you there.

01:37:11.000 I'm an elitist.

01:37:11.000 Come on, come on, come on.

01:37:13.000 I got to stop you there because it's actually the opposite stereotype.

01:37:15.000 What's the stereotype here?

01:37:17.000 The stereotype is that they're not having sex.

01:37:20.000 I'm confused.

01:37:21.000 Listen, the bottom line is this: that's crazy that you can't just have a woman as your roommate.

01:37:25.000 This says it's not explicitly illegal under state law, but it's subject to specific criminal provisions.

01:37:29.000 West Virginia Code 6184.

01:37:32.000 Criminalized.

01:37:32.000 No, it's illegal.

01:37:33.000 The issue is they no longer enforce these laws.

01:37:36.000 Yeah.

01:37:37.000 They've been on the books forever.

01:37:38.000 So it's old school.

01:37:39.000 It's on the books.

01:37:40.000 It's in the law, but no cop is going to arrest anyone.

01:37:43.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:43.000 So you're fine.

01:37:44.000 There are two states that still have laws explicitly, Michigan and Mississippi.

01:37:48.000 But he doesn't say it's criminal to do lewd and lascivious cohabitation.

01:37:51.000 So maybe if you're not married to a girl in West Virginia and you make porn together, Florida finally repealed it in 2016 and Virginia in 2013.

01:37:59.000 In 2001, seven states repealed it.

01:38:02.000 So it actually was on the books for quite a long time.

01:38:04.000 The point is, there are lots of things that we have as illegal, we don't enforce.

01:38:08.000 My point is, it's fine to be like, look, I get it.

01:38:12.000 People can bang who they want to bang.

01:38:13.000 We're not going to get involved in that.

01:38:14.000 A thousand people is where you get into lewd and lascivious and obscenity areas where we're like, if we don't say we're not going, she's going on social media apps, promoting it, encouraging it, gloating over it, and getting paid for it.

01:38:26.000 I say, there's a line.

01:38:28.000 We should not allow this.

01:38:29.000 Dude, on this line, I agree with you. 0.99

01:38:31.000 And to your point, is, bro, low-key, I get some of those boobs and butts. 1.00

01:38:37.000 And I would swear I was just looking at cats. 0.99

01:38:39.000 Dude, right?

01:38:40.000 They're practicing. 0.99

01:38:41.000 No, they honestly, dude, I look at food recipes, bro, and I'm getting crazy amount of shit that I didn't ask for. 0.92

01:38:48.000 I reset my algorithm. 0.65

01:38:49.000 It still happens.

01:38:50.000 So there is a sexualizing, like I'm saying, my buddies, we're all like, yo, it's a turnoff.

01:38:55.000 So, yeah, it's hard, Tim, because it's such a I agree with you.

01:39:00.000 This should never happen.

01:39:02.000 But you're right.

01:39:03.000 If it affects society at some point, I mean, sorry, we'll draw the line at a thousand. 0.99

01:39:07.000 We're such bastards. 0.88

01:39:09.000 Just don't go 1,001. 1.00

01:39:11.000 That's all we're asking.

01:39:12.000 I wanted to follow up with you because I know you have an affinity for libertarians.

01:39:15.000 And one of their catchphrases is like, it doesn't matter what.

01:39:19.000 You have an affinity for a libertarian.

01:39:20.000 I literally said I don't like the libertarian party because they're whacking socialism.

01:39:23.000 For libertarianism, when you were younger, you had an affinity.

01:39:25.000 No, I don't have any affinity for libertarianism.

01:39:27.000 I thought you did.

01:39:27.000 I never did.

01:39:28.000 I said, I liked libertarians.

01:39:30.000 I liked Ron Paul because he said, we may not agree on policy, but I'll never force you to do something.

01:39:35.000 I said, I can accept that.

01:39:36.000 Well, the libertarians were a bit wacky and all over the place. 0.72

01:39:38.000 I know they have a saying of like consenting adults behind closed doors should be nasty. 0.59

01:39:43.000 Okay.

01:39:44.000 There's that. 0.86

01:39:46.000 Just to add to that, I'll shut up.

01:39:47.000 Is that the freedom of the people thinking you're taking their rights away? 0.99

01:39:50.000 A lot of these people that are worried about their rights being taken away want to do deviant shit. 0.98

01:39:56.000 Deviants is what I want their rights. 1.00

01:39:58.000 The Libertarian Party is a hodgepodge collection of various degenerates who want to do something illegal that they can't.

01:40:04.000 And they're unified under, let me do my illegal thing and I'll let you do yours.

01:40:08.000 That's what the Libertarian Party is.

01:40:09.000 Then you have this one chunk.

01:40:11.000 Isn't that Democrats, too?

01:40:13.000 The Democrats are actually, I'll say whatever to get power. 1.00

01:40:16.000 And it includes degenerate shit. 1.00

01:40:18.000 But the Libertarians have this one, like, here's the big circle of libertarianism. 0.99

01:40:21.000 And there's this tiny chunk called the Mises Caucus where they're like, guys, we still want war and we want to lower taxes.

01:40:26.000 And everyone else is like, can we look at animals doing nerdy things?

01:40:30.000 And they're like, no, stop.

01:40:31.000 You're ruining this for us. 0.99

01:40:33.000 And then they nominate some gay communist. 0.99

01:40:37.000 There is a distinction between libertarianism and libertinism. 0.98

01:40:41.000 And the libertinism is what has infected the Libertarian Party.

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01:42:50.000 You like fasting and meditate and go into church.

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01:42:55.000 But I think it's meditation is not bad either.

01:42:57.000 We got to read your Rumble Rance and chats.

01:42:59.000 Let's start with Cheeseburger, who says Bonnie Blue literally faffo'd.

01:43:03.000 Big time.

01:43:05.000 She faffoed, dude. 1.00

01:43:07.000 Faffo right in a bally. 0.82

01:43:08.000 Corporal Fett says Candace has effectively destroyed the rights coalition.

01:43:11.000 Is there any way to fix our coalition?

01:43:13.000 Is there any way forward?

01:43:14.000 She's unhinged and quite possibly the greediest woman in politics today. 1.00

01:43:18.000 Yeah, you can fix it.

01:43:18.000 Dude, if a big magnet gets shattered, you just build a bigger magnet, all the pieces get sucked back right to it.

01:43:23.000 Here's what I see.

01:43:24.000 For a long time, a lot of people refused to either pay attention or engage with what she was doing.

01:43:31.000 She increasingly made it crazier and worse. 0.99

01:43:34.000 And because so many people were unwilling to say anything, it became this gigantic mound of chicken crap. 0.99

01:43:41.000 However, as more and more people start coming out, the people who follow her are starting to realize, well, everyone is calling her crazy. 0.99

01:43:48.000 Maybe she is. 0.93

01:43:49.000 See, the thing is, when she's saying crazy things, but everybody's being like, oh, yeah, maybe.

01:43:52.000 I don't know.

01:43:53.000 Then people who follow her are like, wow, she's the only one who's talking about it. 0.94

01:43:57.000 There needs to be pushback on these lunatics. 0.98

01:44:00.000 If the right doesn't, what's the right word for this? 0.99

01:44:04.000 The left did not police the woke and allowed them to run amok and go crazy and destroy the Democratic Party.

01:44:10.000 If the right does not do the same thing for its own side and say, we do not engage the crack pottery, then you will create this sect of Candace conspiratards and people will be like, ah, I don't F with the Republicans, man.

01:44:23.000 Those are weird people.

01:44:24.000 The word you're looking for is gatekeep.

01:44:26.000 But we don't like to say it because it doesn't sound kosher. 1.00

01:44:28.000 If you don't gatekeep the idiots and retards and conspiracy theorists out of the party, it dilutes. 1.00

01:44:32.000 You keep your friends in check. 1.00

01:44:33.000 If you really care about Candace and what she's doing, tell her.

01:44:36.000 But you got to keep people in check.

01:44:36.000 Talk to her.

01:44:37.000 Go give her a phone call and say, that's the other thing that she has done for you.

01:44:40.000 You know what it is?

01:44:41.000 I don't have her number.

01:44:43.000 She's too sharp for, I imagine if like one of her friends actually went to her and said, you know, here's how I imagine.

01:44:49.000 They'd be like, Candace, I think you're going a little far.

01:44:50.000 She'd be like, why am I going too far?

01:44:52.000 What did I do wrong? 0.97

01:44:52.000 It's ridiculous. 0.97

01:44:53.000 And they'd go, yeah, you're right, Candace. 0.98

01:44:55.000 How do you get to this point where you are so assured of the insanity?

01:45:00.000 It's because you're too aggressive and people are scared to say anything.

01:45:04.000 And that's why most conservative commentators would not say anything.

01:45:07.000 I mean, yo, she literally made a thumbnail that said who benefited from Charlie Kirk's death and used a picture of me like this is what and and so now the message is clear.

01:45:16.000 If you criticize her, she's going to make you the villain of her drama. 1.00

01:45:20.000 Well, I don't care.

01:45:21.000 I don't care.

01:45:22.000 Let's read more of these.

01:45:23.000 All right.

01:45:24.000 J.R.R. Rod says, Jamie Kennedy Malibu Most Wanted.

01:45:27.000 Love that movie.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, what's up, son?

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01:45:37.000 Ronnie Blue.

01:45:38.000 Yes, she did.

01:45:40.000 I haven't seen the movie yet.

01:45:41.000 Asriel says, I have had a effing enough of this BS.

01:45:45.000 Candace needs to stop. 1.00

01:45:46.000 She at this point is a jealous child.

01:45:48.000 All I see coming out of her mouth is where, where, where, my hurts, grow up little girl. 1.00

01:45:53.000 Yikes.

01:45:54.000 Rothlow says the season finale of Candace's show will be her bringing on a channeler of the dead like Cody ITC to ask ask him from beyond the grave.

01:46:04.000 Dude.

01:46:05.000 She's a new MLK. 0.99

01:46:06.000 She had a dream.

01:46:07.000 Didn't she say Charlie came to her in a dream?

01:46:08.000 Yep, exactly.

01:46:10.000 Dude, MLK had a crazy dream too.

01:46:12.000 Maybe we should be making fun of her for it. 1.00

01:46:14.000 Jay Dirt Biker says, make historical war movies great again.

01:46:17.000 I want to see an accurate movie about the Crusades.

01:46:19.000 That sounds fun.

01:46:20.000 I'm actually pretty excited about Pendragon Cycle.

01:46:23.000 It looks really good.

01:46:24.000 You know, there were like trailer for it.

01:46:26.000 I saw the trailer.

01:46:27.000 There's just so much, I feel like, negative energy surrounding it moving forward.

01:46:32.000 Like all the behind-the-scenes stuff.

01:46:34.000 There's so much pressure for it to succeed and replace some.

01:46:38.000 I feel like they're going for a Game of Thrones type show, at least in some of the graphics that I saw.

01:46:42.000 And I mean, I'm wishing them the best, and Daily Wire is trying their hand at culture. 0.99

01:46:46.000 But if this doesn't expect, I mean, shit. 0.98

01:46:49.000 Jeremy was the power behind it, and he's gone now. 0.98

01:46:52.000 But I looked at the Daily Wire YouTube channel, and the biggest videos they put out are always the behind-the-scenes of Pendragon.

01:46:58.000 And the trailer comes out and gets millions of views.

01:47:01.000 I think Jeremy was correct about the direction they needed to go.

01:47:05.000 Now, Daily Wire just seems to be, with all due respect, because I like these guys, but it's a lot of, it's four guys saying similar things to each other.

01:47:13.000 There's a limit to this space, you know?

01:47:15.000 They needed to go in a creative direction.

01:47:19.000 And I guess, you know, it looks like what happened, I don't know for sure, that there was an internal feud with Jeremy over the direction of the company.

01:47:26.000 Jeremy wanted to do creative content and make the company bigger than just political commentary.

01:47:30.000 And then I guess as political commentary starts to wane and that's their real money base, they ousted him or he quit.

01:47:36.000 I don't know exactly what happened.

01:47:37.000 And then they're like, now we're going to do political commentary.

01:47:39.000 And now that's kind of all it is.

01:47:41.000 But I'm excited for Pendragon and it may end up being massive.

01:47:44.000 So that a video game they're making?

01:47:47.000 The Pendragon Cycle is a series of novels about like King Arthur and Merlin and stuff like that.

01:47:51.000 Arthur Pendragon is his last name.

01:47:53.000 Okay.

01:47:53.000 Yeah.

01:47:54.000 Uther Pendragon is fine.

01:47:55.000 And so they made a movie about it or TV series.

01:47:58.000 Yeah.

01:47:59.000 Yeah.

01:47:59.000 Daily Wire started working on this years ago.

01:47:59.000 Okay.

01:48:01.000 And it looks good.

01:48:03.000 Oh, it looks sick.

01:48:04.000 It looks pretty dang good.

01:48:05.000 Yeah.

01:48:06.000 Like Game of Thrones-esque.

01:48:07.000 And it'll only be available on their thing.

01:48:09.000 Yep.

01:48:09.000 Okay.

01:48:09.000 Presumably.

01:48:10.000 That's a difficult barrier to entry.

01:48:13.000 I'm going to watch it for sure.

01:48:14.000 You've got to put clips on it.

01:48:15.000 It's coming out next month.

01:48:15.000 I'm excited for it.

01:48:16.000 Yeah, but outside of the people, the conservatives who are already signed up to Daily Wire, it's like, why would you dip your toe in?

01:48:20.000 Like, I don't know why a liberal would want to support Daily Wire to watch this show because they hate Daily Wire.

01:48:25.000 So why even give it a chance?

01:48:26.000 Put it on Amazon or something.

01:48:27.000 Yeah, if they flip it to a big streamer.

01:48:29.000 Yeah.

01:48:30.000 But then if one of these outlets buy it, then it's just like, oh, you're working with these fascists.

01:48:33.000 So they're stuck between a rock and hard play.

01:48:35.000 Let's read this.

01:48:35.000 We got Patriot Girls.

01:48:36.000 I just wanted to say I thought Son of the Mask was a cute movie, and I'm 30, if that means anything.

01:48:40.000 I really enjoyed it.

01:48:41.000 I loved Loki's character and his relationship with Thor.

01:48:44.000 Well, there you go.

01:48:45.000 There you go, buddy.

01:48:47.000 You know what?

01:48:47.000 That's the age group, though.

01:48:49.000 That's fascinating because I have these people.

01:48:49.000 Yeah.

01:48:52.000 I go to these conventions all the time.

01:48:54.000 I was telling them, and they're like, these big autograph conventions are amazing.

01:48:57.000 And now, like the 23 to 30 tell me they love the movie.

01:49:01.000 Now, when it came out, everyone tell me they hated the movie.

01:49:03.000 And I said, why?

01:49:04.000 And one girl said, well, my mom would just put, you know, me in front of the TV and I'd watch it on loop.

01:49:11.000 I think the issue was the original mask.

01:49:13.000 Well, dude, and I, you know, what I have is that my loop was Scarface, Beverly Hills Cop, and Nightmare on Elm Street.

01:49:21.000 So crazy.

01:49:23.000 But it's a good loop, right?

01:49:24.000 So it's like, I think it's just people have different things.

01:49:26.000 I think it's because the original mask IP was a bit violent.

01:49:30.000 And the original, the movie they made was actually more intended for an older audience.

01:49:34.000 And Son of the Mask is more for like, it's a cookie cartoon for kids, you know?

01:49:37.000 A thousand percent.

01:49:38.000 There's a lot more, but yes.

01:49:39.000 Right.

01:49:39.000 So they start telling adults to watch a kid's movie and they're going to be like, well, I don't want to watch this, you know?

01:49:43.000 Yeah.

01:49:43.000 It could have worked in the sense of adult jokes and then funny visuals for kids.

01:49:49.000 Like Disney does that the best.

01:49:51.000 All right.

01:49:52.000 DITW says the Stooges theory might hold.

01:49:55.000 Candace could be laying groundwork for a Macron lawsuit defense. 1.00

01:49:57.000 It's just an entertainment show all fake and crazy.

01:50:00.000 Everyone knows it's not serious.

01:50:01.000 I believe that will be her defense.

01:50:03.000 We saw similarly with Fox News that it's not news.

01:50:06.000 It's opinion and entertainment.

01:50:08.000 I imagine that will be her only defense because, you know, I got to be honest.

01:50:12.000 My brother's not a public figure.

01:50:14.000 I mean, they might try to argue he is, but claiming that he committed a shooting in which I claimed to have, quote, survived is psychotic.

01:50:23.000 It is beyond the pale.

01:50:25.000 It is insanely offensive and just made up. 0.95

01:50:28.000 And I don't know where she comes up with this nonsense. 0.97

01:50:34.000 The thing about Candace Owens is that I don't think between her and her husband, they give a crap about any of these defamation suits. 0.97

01:50:41.000 Her husband's worth well over $200 million.

01:50:43.000 They can weather any of these financial storms.

01:50:46.000 No, they can't.

01:50:46.000 You don't think so?

01:50:48.000 200 plus million?

01:50:49.000 I mean, I'm sure they have an LLC.

01:50:50.000 Alex Jones owes – they tried suing him for the GDP of France.

01:50:53.000 $2 billion.

01:50:54.000 No, at first it was.

01:50:55.000 Or $1.4 billion.

01:50:58.000 Yeah.

01:50:58.000 Something.

01:50:59.000 We'll see how this pans out. 0.90

01:50:59.000 Crazy. 0.90

01:51:01.000 I don't think she's scared of these defamation suits.

01:51:03.000 I think she has the money to, you know, she has FU money. 1.00

01:51:06.000 Yes, but accusing someone of trying to murder a family member, a person who's not a public figure, doesn't fall under Times v. Sullivan.

01:51:14.000 She's not scared to go after Bridget McCrone.

01:51:16.000 I mean, she's not.

01:51:19.000 If she's willing to make up stuff about Bridget McCrone, I mean, you know, she's willing to make up anything about anybody.

01:51:24.000 You, your family, I mean, it's.

01:51:26.000 People were posting photos of my brother like, this is him.

01:51:28.000 Like, this is what she does.

01:51:30.000 Like, I called my brother and I was like, dude, like, are you seeing?

01:51:33.000 He's like, yeah, I'm tweeting it.

01:51:34.000 I'm like, well, stop.

01:51:37.000 Are you trying to get, would you ever try to get together with her and talk it out or is that done? 0.97

01:51:42.000 Well, there's, there's the question of she's crazy. 0.99

01:51:45.000 You know what I mean? 0.93

01:51:45.000 Like, she wants to do crazy things. 0.93

01:51:48.000 So I don't know that engaging with a lunatic when I'm trying to talk about serious issues and she's claiming the U.S. military, the French Legion, Israel, men in maroon shirts are, you know, Erica's wife is involved.

01:52:01.000 Like when she's literally just vomiting all over the table, there's no discussion. 0.97

01:52:05.000 It's like someone asked me like, hey, that dog's taking a dump.

01:52:08.000 Do you want to debate him?

01:52:08.000 I'll be like, why?

01:52:09.000 He's just shitting. 0.99

01:52:09.000 We had Milo on the show last week. 0.99

01:52:11.000 Yeah, but Milo is very different.

01:52:13.000 Milo's very different.

01:52:15.000 He's kind of similar.

01:52:16.000 He is, of course, very different.

01:52:17.000 Milo's everybody.

01:52:19.000 But it was more of a blast.

01:52:21.000 That show was just a wild explosion.

01:52:24.000 Milo deserves some critique and criticism as he does.

01:52:27.000 But I don't consider him the same as Candace.

01:52:27.000 As he does.

01:52:30.000 And I don't think he's a dirty dog taking a shit, like you said, either. 1.00

01:52:32.000 I just think we didn't get a political discourse that night. 1.00

01:52:35.000 It was still really cool.

01:52:36.000 Let's grab some more.

01:52:36.000 We got Shane H. Wilder.

01:52:37.000 He says, Cam's verification did nothing to satiate these lunatics.

01:52:41.000 Now they're like, he edited it.

01:52:42.000 No, duh.

01:52:43.000 Cam is a stand-up dude and isn't going to dox the compound's location.

01:52:46.000 These people are tarded AF. 0.99

01:52:47.000 Yeah, right.

01:52:48.000 The first guy called literally the wrong police department.

01:52:51.000 And then they were like, that proves it.

01:52:54.000 It's intentional lies.

01:52:55.000 They want it to be a lie.

01:52:57.000 Dirk T. Sanchez says, I just bought a case of pool water.

01:53:00.000 One, because of your genuine reaction to Candace yesterday.

01:53:03.000 And two, to try and encourage you to keep doing ARL.

01:53:05.000 We need you and your crew, Tim.

01:53:06.000 Please keep creating.

01:53:07.000 I love the idea, the preliminary ideas that we've been bouncing around with the Rumble crew about making something bigger and bringing everyone together because having all these independent islands just puts us all at risk.

01:53:17.000 So if, you know, I was talking about how I was talking with him, and I think I mentioned on the show, like, Fox News is a skyscraper.

01:53:22.000 So when you go into the studio, ain't nobody getting in there.

01:53:25.000 Nope.

01:53:25.000 No bulletproof windows.

01:53:27.000 You can't open the doors.

01:53:28.000 And I was like, we need something like that.

01:53:30.000 But if everybody works out of the same office building and same studio, you only got to hire one security crew for everybody instead of 15 security crews, which is very expensive.

01:53:39.000 So we'll see where it goes.

01:53:40.000 We'll see where it goes.

01:53:41.000 Have I pushed Fox News hard enough?

01:53:43.000 Are they in the cards?

01:53:43.000 No.

01:53:44.000 You give them a call.

01:53:45.000 You give them a call.

01:53:46.000 Somebody there would love, I'm sure, to speak to you.

01:53:48.000 More than one.

01:53:49.000 Black Hills Ranch says, no, if God creates something so heavy, he can't lift it.

01:53:53.000 He limited himself.

01:53:54.000 By that logic, he can create something that can kill him. 1.00

01:53:56.000 Dumb, outdated paradox. 0.99

01:53:58.000 All wrong, Tim. 1.00

01:53:59.000 He is who he is.

01:53:59.000 God is a reason.

01:54:00.000 This is why I'm not a Christian.

01:54:01.000 Because the concept of creation itself Is a creation of God.

01:54:09.000 And the Christian view is that defies logic, and logic must exist for there to be a God. 0.77

01:54:15.000 And Lot and God is Lot.

01:54:17.000 He is the logos of the universe.

01:54:18.000 My perception is God is the infinite singularity of all things.

01:54:24.000 God is the decider of what is or is not.

01:54:26.000 The function of the universe was decided by God.

01:54:29.000 The concept of heavy was decided by God.

01:54:31.000 The concept of immovable was decided by God.

01:54:33.000 God could simply decide immovable no longer exists.

01:54:36.000 God could decide immovable exists.

01:54:38.000 God could decide to create paradox because paradox was created by God in the first place.

01:54:43.000 It is strange to me that people would say the reality in which we exist that includes logical contradiction was logical contradiction was not created by God because God is logic.

01:54:52.000 I say, then I view that as a limitation that is not omnipotence.

01:54:56.000 My view is that logic itself was decided by God.

01:55:00.000 God literally decided one day, logic will be this.

01:55:04.000 Put it into place.

01:55:06.000 And then we all went, no, if you defy that, God can't do it.

01:55:08.000 It's like, no, no, you don't understand.

01:55:10.000 God can move the one and the two whenever he wants.

01:55:12.000 Well, you're making me think about using vortexes to dampen unraw radiation so that we can dispel with, you know, the limitations on inertia.

01:55:20.000 And just when you start to accelerate, you keep accelerating.

01:55:24.000 Here's a good one, Methos says tim, consider drones.

01:55:26.000 They are never in the same place and be equipped with thermals and are relatively cheap.

01:55:29.000 We actually did look into getting robot dogs for the property. 0.83

01:55:33.000 We get like five robot dogs.

01:55:34.000 They just walk around and what happens is you'll have like two on rotation where they walk the whole property and then sit down in the charger, and then three will come out, move around and then sit in the charger, and then two comes out and we can mount them with rifles or flamethrowers now, to be fair, probably paintball guns.

01:55:50.000 But you know dude, the robot dogs, that's the way to do it.

01:55:54.000 Yeah, I mean dude.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, you see the videos.

01:55:58.000 And then what happens is when someone comes in the property, like 15 dogs walk up real slowly and then one of them just tilts back and goes, halt intruder, you are on private property, we will open fire in 15 seconds, do not approach.

01:56:10.000 And then guns slide up and then the bolt slides back.

01:56:16.000 Maybe you could hire a couple Ukrainians to just hang out with the with uh, their self-destructive drones, their suicide drones, and somebody, the. 1.00

01:56:22.000 We went to Home Depot and we went Trabajo, Trabajo.

01:56:22.000 We did that.

01:56:26.000 And then they were like see, they have Mexicans here in West Virginia.

01:56:29.000 And I was like uh, you guys want to work?

01:56:30.000 And they were like yeah, we can't work.

01:56:31.000 What do you want to say?

01:56:32.000 I was like I just want you to stand in front of my property.

01:56:34.000 Oh see, i'm kidding, we never did that.

01:56:36.000 I want to go back to.

01:56:36.000 I'm ripping off South Park.

01:56:37.000 By the way, simulation theory do you believe in that or no?

01:56:40.000 What is that?

01:56:40.000 Similar simulation theory that we live in a simulation?

01:56:43.000 Oh, simulation.

01:56:44.000 I thought you said assimilation.

01:56:45.000 Simulation theory yeah yeah, I know.

01:56:46.000 Simulation, you believe in it?

01:56:48.000 No wow, I think it's impossible to tell.

01:56:51.000 We should talk about this on the after show too, because you brought up energy.

01:56:53.000 Well, we got to get into finer details on what that means.

01:56:56.000 So my view is that simulation theory is like if, if you, if you studied any kind of theology, simulation theory is i'll put it like this when you see, like Elon Musk or some tech billionaire go, what if we live in a constructed universe where a more advanced civilization or power created the world we're in.

01:57:16.000 It's like, ah, that was the first page of the Bible, so simulation theory is a it's, it's like two percent of theology, and priests and philosophers have contemplated these ideas for thousands of years, but simulists seem to have just figured it out instead of actually just going to learned religious folk and asking them.

01:57:37.000 Well, this is going to be too long, so i'll keep it simple, but you know that there's multiple people saying that we live in a hologram, and if you understand what that means, meaning that you know the split atom theory which is, and you know So, you understand the split atom theory.

01:57:55.000 What is that?

01:57:56.000 If they fire two atoms, that's the double-slit experiment.

01:57:59.000 Yeah, double-slit.

01:58:00.000 So, do you believe that?

01:58:03.000 So, the interesting thing about the double-slit experiment: if an ant was walking across the table and you were trying to measure the distance the ant walked, so you slammed a ruler next to it, and then the ant turned left, and you went, oh my God, the act of observing the ant has changed its direction.

01:58:20.000 That's what it is.

01:58:21.000 No, it is no, because you just did a ruler so that affected the ant.

01:58:27.000 Indeed, and what tool are they using to monitor their electrons?

01:58:30.000 You're observing it with your eyes.

01:58:32.000 There's a tool that's interfering with wave particle, with wave function collapse.

01:58:36.000 And so, the hippies had someone tell them the double-slit experiment, and they went, oh, whoa.

01:58:42.000 And then the scientists went, guys, what we're actually saying is we don't know the point at which wave function collapse happens.

01:58:48.000 But the scientists aren't on your, they're not saying it's not real.

01:58:52.000 What the scientists are saying is that there is an interference at some point.

01:58:56.000 We don't know where it is.

01:58:58.000 They are not saying the act of observation alters reality.

01:59:03.000 I think there's been some papers that said the act of observation does. 0.96

01:59:06.000 If it were mainstream, dude, come on, fucking back me up on this. 0.95

01:59:12.000 I think so. 0.99

01:59:13.000 You got your neurons in your brain, muscles, stomach.

01:59:16.000 They're all affecting the magnetic field around you, which is affecting everything else.

01:59:20.000 I could do this all night, which is why I said that's a good thing.

01:59:23.000 I'll shut up.

01:59:24.000 We got a couple more minutes to grab some of these chats.

01:59:25.000 So we got Legama.

01:59:27.000 He says, I was very happy to see your 1,000% valid comments about Candace. 0.99

01:59:31.000 The woke Maoists endure and are deeply entrenched in the U.S. Candace's BS is a pebble in the engine of the war machine to root out the woke left, making everything idiotic chaos. 1.00

01:59:41.000 Time to shut her clap trap. 1.00

01:59:44.000 Yeah, I think she's basically like, it's a tumor growing on the right that everybody was scared to address because they'd feel that they felt like it would damage them personally.

01:59:54.000 But if you don't stop it, then the right will cease to exist and the Democrats will win.

01:59:58.000 And she literally said, We don't care about your midterms. 1.00

02:00:01.000 She knows she's burning down the coalition. 0.99

02:00:05.000 She does not care, nor does her audience.

02:00:09.000 They live in Wally World.

02:00:10.000 They don't care if Democrats win.

02:00:11.000 I do.

02:00:13.000 All right, we got Ferris McLaren says, Occam's razor suggests Hanlon's razors best explain Candace's behavior. 1.00

02:00:20.000 One dummy is taking down TPUSA single-handedly, and you all are conspiracy theorists for assuming she's evil.

02:00:27.000 So you genuinely believe that you think Candace isn't cognizant of all of the inconsistencies in everything she said.

02:00:35.000 That she didn't decide today to say, wow, it was the military that did it.

02:00:38.000 She knows exactly what she's doing. 0.99

02:00:39.000 She's not stupid. 0.94

02:00:40.000 She's very smart. 0.59

02:00:41.000 People don't accidentally get to these positions of power. 1.00

02:00:44.000 When people are like, Donald Trump's a moron, I'm like, no, he's not. 0.99

02:00:48.000 He's a billionaire that owned like 500 different companies and turned a million dollars into a billion dollars. 1.00

02:00:53.000 He's very smart. 1.00

02:00:55.000 It's stupid to look at someone who is doing something consistently successful and go like, yeah, but they're actually stupid. 1.00

02:01:01.000 I mean, there's wisdom, then there's intelligence. 1.00

02:01:03.000 She's obviously highly intelligent, but is she wise?

02:01:05.000 Does she know the implications of what she's doing?

02:01:07.000 I don't know.

02:01:08.000 Because if she really understood the damage she could possibly be doing to humans' emotions, soul, like maybe she wouldn't. 0.99

02:01:14.000 I think she's a narcissist and she doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:01:16.000 I love this one. 1.00

02:01:17.000 Trusted source says Tim has what we call CDS, Candace derangement syndrome.

02:01:21.000 Don't forget Chuck Schumer derangement syndrome, Nancy Pelosi derangement syndrome, Elizabeth Warren derangement syndrome, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez derangement syndrome.

02:01:29.000 It's like you've got derangement.

02:01:32.000 Derangement syndrome, antifa derangement syndrome, California derangement.

02:01:36.000 The list goes on of everything I've criticized.

02:01:39.000 And this one time, it's like Candace is not like, oh, Tim, you're right to quirt.

02:01:43.000 Yeah, I don't care, dude.

02:01:46.000 MAGA MAGA 250 says Candace is a fed. 1.00

02:01:51.000 Maybe her lawyers work in the same building as feds. 0.94

02:01:55.000 That was her own revelation.

02:01:57.000 True.

02:01:58.000 When they say this Fed thing for everyone, that means everyone, they're just on the payroll.

02:02:03.000 Yeah, Candace got the call. 1.00

02:02:05.000 So that's when they say when people are feds, because you hear this a lot.

02:02:08.000 You're a fed.

02:02:09.000 I'll just say it is very interesting that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

02:02:13.000 The biggest blow to the right coalition, but more importantly, specifically to Turning Point USA, their leader and founder and main fundraiser, gone.

02:02:25.000 Someone killed Charlie Kirk to destroy Turning Point and stop his work.

02:02:29.000 The second most devastating thing done to Turning Point and Charlie's work, Candace Owens.

02:02:36.000 So we've got a list, right?

02:02:38.000 Of all the people that have done, you know, from a list of one to 10, who did the most damage to Turning Point USA?

02:02:45.000 First, you have the assassin, presumably Tyler Robinson.

02:02:47.000 And second, you have Candace Owens.

02:02:49.000 After that, I don't know.

02:02:50.000 They're being sued by somebody, I imagine.

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02:03:19.000 Thank you so much.

02:03:20.000 I'll take it from here, Jamie.

02:03:23.000 Hey, man, I just want to talk about energy.

02:03:25.000 I'm talking about subatomic, you know, the cymatic vibration of reality causing things to appear in place at the subatomic realm, which is probably part of what you're going at.

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02:05:56.000 Are they are they just talking now?

02:05:58.000 They're just chatting outside.

02:05:59.000 See, this is what happens.

02:06:00.000 This is Ian.

02:06:01.000 We're like, guys, run to the bathroom right now if you have to.

02:06:04.000 And they're like, let's just hang out.

02:06:04.000 You got to go quick.

02:06:06.000 He's like, no, it's hang time, man.

02:06:07.000 I'm just going to chill out here.

02:06:09.000 You know what, man?

02:06:11.000 I'm going to talk about it before Jamie gets back, but all this hippy-dippy misinterpretation of science stuff is just very funny to me.

02:06:19.000 There are some weird experiments they did beyond the double-slit experiment, which do raise questions about the nature of reality and time itself.

02:06:30.000 They tried sending information back in time using wave function collapse.

02:06:33.000 I forgot the name of the experiment.

02:06:34.000 You guys in the chat probably know.

02:06:36.000 But the interesting thing about the double slit experiment is all they're saying is they don't understand wave function collapse.

02:06:42.000 From this, we can argue at some point, wave function collapses, and what we do to measure interferes this process.

02:06:48.000 We don't know why.

02:06:49.000 Hippies go, whoa. 1.00

02:06:51.000 So by looking at it, you change reality.

02:06:55.000 Yeah, and I'm one of those hippies.

02:06:56.000 I was just taking a piss thinking about it, and I thought, okay, when you perceive something, you're essentially interfering with it.

02:07:02.000 In order to perceive light, you have to bounce off of it with your eye.

02:07:06.000 That means that you're bumping.

02:07:08.000 No, you're using a photon, it is bouncing off of it.

02:07:13.000 Well, either your eyes bouncing off the photon.

02:07:15.000 Your eye stays in your head.

02:07:16.000 Your eye stays in your head.

02:07:17.000 The photon bounces.

02:07:18.000 It's not the same thing.

02:07:19.000 Your eye stays in your head.

02:07:20.000 The photon looks like it's staying stable and everything else.

02:07:23.000 The photon, to look at something, you have to shoot a photon at it.

02:07:26.000 The photon bounces back.

02:07:28.000 And part of the problem is when you're looking at subatomic particles, things that are smaller than photons, the photon hitting it changes it.

02:07:36.000 That's why you can't know a particle's position and velocity because when you shoot the photon at it, it bounces off of it, changing the velocity and the position.

02:07:47.000 So you can either know the position or you can know the velocity, but you can't know both at the same time because the act of shooting a photon at it, hitting it, and bouncing back to your eye, the photon hitting it changes what the particle is doing.

02:08:00.000 I think that's true.

02:08:01.000 That is true.

02:08:02.000 The reason I mentioned that it's either your eye bouncing off the photon, or it's like if you and I slap high five, who's hitting who?

02:08:07.000 Like, we're both hitting each other, you know, we're both bouncing off each other.

02:08:10.000 Your eye stays in your head.

02:08:11.000 To you, to your perspective, it does.

02:08:12.000 To the photon, you're flying towards it, and then you bounce off of the photon.

02:08:16.000 No, photons move through space.

02:08:19.000 They seem to.

02:08:20.000 They absolutely.

02:08:21.000 Or space moves.

02:08:21.000 They absolutely.

02:08:22.000 No, photons move through space.

02:08:24.000 What is space?

02:08:26.000 The three dimensions that we exist in, the field that we exist in.

02:08:31.000 You've got to define it, though.

02:08:32.000 If you're going to say that it's the field that we exist, it is the three-dimensional field that we exist in.

02:08:38.000 More than just that.

02:08:40.000 Anyway, there's more things in space, but in the context that we're discussing right now, you're saying that photons, you're telling me the way I understand it is your eye moves to the photon.

02:08:52.000 Doesn't happen.

02:08:52.000 No, no, no.

02:08:53.000 The photon moves through space at the speed of light and bounces off the particle and then comes back to your eye or to whatever the measuring device is, and then, when it hits your eye, it bounces off your eye again.

02:09:05.000 Well it, I mean, I don't know that it bounces off your eye or if it is absorbed or whatever, but it interferes with your eye.

02:09:11.000 It enters into your eye yeah, and your eye your your uh, whatever's in your eye, perceives it.

02:09:18.000 Um, but that, the what you're talking about.

02:09:20.000 When it comes to part of the the, the whole.

02:09:22.000 No, the photons that enter your eye to allow you to see, do not bounce back out.

02:09:25.000 They are absorbed inside your eye and cease to exist as photons.

02:09:28.000 Yeah, there might be some radiation that's lost in the transfer, but they don't like.

02:09:33.000 So the whole concept that we're talking about here it, the foundational principle, is that particles that that are, that have, that are smaller than a photon right, when the photon hits it, it changes what the particle's doing right, so the change, so you can't know the position and the velocity at the same time, because the act of viewing it changes it.

02:09:56.000 And then there's a bunch of other things, like you can expand on that and there's all kinds of other uh implications.

02:10:02.000 That is a very fundamental thing.

02:10:04.000 That is called the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. 0.99

02:10:06.000 Yeah, the question is by the way, let's be real, this fucking ac never went off. 0.99

02:10:11.000 It's cold as balls in here the whole fucking time. 0.99

02:10:14.000 It's not hot at all in here. 0.99

02:10:15.000 I wish there was no ac. 0.99

02:10:17.000 It's fucking freezing. 0.99

02:10:18.000 You dad, what? 0.99

02:10:19.000 I'll turn it off and it'll get very hot.

02:10:20.000 Old school Letterman dude, you're a fan, because that's what he did.

02:10:23.000 He kept his studio so cold because you know it's put a jacket on but you can't take your skin off, true?

02:10:28.000 Does he do it to make his uh guest uncomfortable?

02:10:30.000 No, so you're like, everyone's like this, so you laugh more.

02:10:32.000 It's funny.

02:10:33.000 We have it's 30 degrees.

02:10:33.000 It's 30 degrees outside.

02:10:34.000 We have the air conditioning on in here.

02:10:36.000 It's insane.

02:10:37.000 I've listened when i've got sweat stains in my arm picture.

02:10:37.000 Everyone listening.

02:10:37.000 It's insane.

02:10:40.000 We, we don't turn the heaters on and then what happens is the computers, the computer, the equipment, the lights and everything.

02:10:46.000 They get very hot.

02:10:47.000 Well okay, i've never noticed it, but you're, you know more when the ace.

02:10:51.000 That's why we have two ac units.

02:10:53.000 The question is, let's go back to this split thing okay, you can't.

02:10:57.000 You guys are so serious about like what you think you know, okay.

02:11:01.000 So here's a simple question.

02:11:02.000 That thing about the cat do you subscribe to the theory is, is the cat there when you're not looking at it?

02:11:10.000 The cat is there in the object permanence.

02:11:12.000 I agree with you.

02:11:13.000 I believe it is there, but there is a whole theory in science that believes it's not.

02:11:17.000 It's a thought experiment based on experiment, based on the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

02:11:21.000 Yes, it's not meant to be taken literally.

02:11:23.000 The cat is both alive and dead, but you could ask it could be both, that it's a cat and a bunch of electrons.

02:11:28.000 No the, the idea, the idea.

02:11:30.000 The idea is basically at the quantum level.

02:11:32.000 There are things we can't quite understand, and the purpose of Schrodinger's cat as a thought experiment is to ask what happens if we take from the quantum weirdness and apply it to something that could be in a physical.

02:11:44.000 Uh, I think we call this the nanoscopic, which is us.

02:11:47.000 Let's just talk simple though, because you use these words sometimes and I love you, you're smart guy, but geez, these words.

02:11:52.000 Let's go simple.

02:11:53.000 Do you believe in the quantum realm?

02:11:55.000 1000, what do you mean?

02:11:56.000 Quantum realm, okay.

02:11:58.000 So it's really simple.

02:11:59.000 There was a thing and you can look this up of a, of a, of a some type of Problem, math problem, that all the computers in the world were linked together.

02:12:08.000 It would take like five billion years.

02:12:10.000 Oh, we're macro scale, sorry.

02:12:12.000 And the new chip that Google or someone invented did it in 30 minutes.

02:12:16.000 Like a quantum chip or something?

02:12:17.000 Yes.

02:12:18.000 It can be as one and a zero at the same time.

02:12:20.000 And the argument is, is that the only way to get that much information that fast.

02:12:24.000 Three dimensions.

02:12:25.000 So how do you not believe that?

02:12:25.000 Exactly.

02:12:28.000 So that is sci-fi silliness.

02:12:31.000 Wow.

02:12:33.000 Dude, you know what my science teacher told me in seventh grade?

02:12:36.000 Yeah, what do you tell you?

02:12:37.000 The more I know, the more I realize I don't know.

02:12:39.000 Indeed, so let me explain it to you. 0.97

02:12:40.000 So you're acting like you're just fucking tenured in MIT. 0.98

02:12:44.000 Let me let see, when you have such arrogance, that you think you know everything. 0.99

02:12:50.000 You laugh at anyone who might challenge you with something you don't know.

02:12:50.000 Yes.

02:12:54.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:12:54.000 Whereas the things you're describing, I've actually read and you have not.

02:12:58.000 No, you don't know what I read.

02:13:00.000 So the article, which we covered on this show about how clearly the only way that this information could have been obtained is by going to other dimensions because it requires a trillion years of data calculation is a way to entice ignorant people into following something they don't understand.

02:13:19.000 Like the reason George W. Bush does, they hate us for our freedom, is because if he actually described the issues at play in the geopolitical realm of warfare, they'd go, huh?

02:13:30.000 So here's the reality.

02:13:31.000 Do you know how quantum computers work?

02:13:33.000 You know qubits are?

02:13:34.000 I know qubits.

02:13:35.000 I don't.

02:13:35.000 Yeah, we'll go ahead.

02:13:36.000 So the quantum state, Heisenberg uncertainty, and I'm not even the expert on this.

02:13:40.000 We don't know the point at which the bit, the particle is a wave or collapses.

02:13:46.000 Effectively, it's not going to other dimensions.

02:13:49.000 This is a fun sci-fi thought because it's entertaining.

02:13:52.000 You got to define dimension.

02:13:54.000 The bit exists in a super state.

02:13:57.000 And so the idea is, the easy way to explain it is instead of having a look at, we'll go like this.

02:14:04.000 Imagine there's a maze and it's like this.

02:14:07.000 And you've got all these little twists and turns.

02:14:09.000 So you say, I've got a quick way to solve this maze instead of trying to navigate it.

02:14:13.000 I'm going to pour water in it.

02:14:14.000 The water fills every possible little nook and cranny and then eventually finds its way out.

02:14:20.000 And then you say, aha, now we see the water has made it through the maze.

02:14:24.000 That's basically a generic algorithm where every line goes in every possible direction.

02:14:29.000 Quantum computing would be take the maze, lay it flat, and dump water over the top.

02:14:34.000 And you attack it in every possible vector.

02:14:36.000 It's just a higher dimension of calculation.

02:14:39.000 It is a fun thought to say it must be traveling to other dimensions.

02:14:43.000 That's not known.

02:14:43.000 That's not proven.

02:14:44.000 It was one guy who was making an analogy because it makes people interested in the subject matter.

02:14:49.000 Do you believe that there's other dimensions?

02:14:53.000 Do you mean alternate realities?

02:14:55.000 I mean that there's, do you believe that your nose, your eyes, your ears can only access certain things and that there's other things that you can't access because you don't have incredibly vague and I don't know what you mean.

02:15:07.000 It's really simple.

02:15:08.000 You have that what we can touch here in here are less than one millionth of reality.

02:15:15.000 Yeah, like we like, yeah.

02:15:16.000 That's why we have antennas that can detect X 1,000%.

02:15:20.000 So what I'm trying to say is, I don't know, you'll tell me this, I think there's 11 dimensions.

02:15:25.000 We're in M-theory.

02:15:26.000 And they access?

02:15:29.000 I believe it's more than that now.

02:15:30.000 They keep adding more.

02:15:31.000 The fourth dimension is time.

02:15:33.000 Yeah, so do you, so I don't know.

02:15:35.000 I think what you're saying, it's just so certainty, and there's arguments which are hypotheses in science to argue against what you're saying, but you're just like, this is what it is.

02:15:43.000 And that's like, I think I don't know.

02:15:45.000 11 and M theory, 10 and super string.

02:15:47.000 And what happened with super string theory is that they couldn't accommodate for some of the – basically what happens is they're like, hey, super string theory makes a lot of sense.

02:15:55.000 Then someone did a math problem and says, this doesn't add up.

02:15:57.000 And they went, add a dimension?

02:15:59.000 One of the things about the way Tim talks is he'll say, I don't believe it.

02:16:02.000 It doesn't mean he's saying, I think you're wrong.

02:16:04.000 He's saying, you haven't proven it to me yet.

02:16:06.000 No, I could see you're practical.

02:16:08.000 It would be more like this.

02:16:10.000 Did you know that in Son of the Mask, the main character.

02:16:15.000 Why do I always have to catch astray?

02:16:16.000 Dude, Scream was awesome. 0.78

02:16:17.000 He grew wings and flew too close to the sun, and then the wings melted off, and he fell to the earth and died.

02:16:23.000 You'd be like— That wasn't in the movie.

02:16:25.000 Yes, it was.

02:16:26.000 You think you know everything, don't you?

02:16:27.000 No, that's not true.

02:16:29.000 It's not what we're saying.

02:16:30.000 Yeah.

02:16:31.000 I read something online that said he flew too close to the sun.

02:16:34.000 My point is, Icarus.

02:16:36.000 I certainly don't know everything about M-theory or all these other things.

02:16:39.000 But when you highlight that one guy said, certainly quantum computers.

02:16:44.000 How do we know it was one guy?

02:16:45.000 Because it was one researcher in the story that we covered on the show.

02:16:49.000 It was one guy who said a quote that surely must have borrowed this information from other dimensions, other alternate realities.

02:16:56.000 And a bunch of laymen who otherwise are not interested went, wow.

02:16:59.000 Okay.

02:17:00.000 And that's the trick they use to be like getting, like, it's what Candace does. 1.00

02:17:03.000 You're, you're.

02:17:05.000 Listen, let me just say this.

02:17:08.000 Just let's say AI for a second.

02:17:09.000 Do you know that AI is going to make your mind just bend?

02:17:14.000 You agree with that?

02:17:16.000 What does that mean?

02:17:17.000 You're so strict and principled on what you believe.

02:17:22.000 The little bit I've met you.

02:17:24.000 And that's like, you are, though.

02:17:26.000 You have to be proven wrong, correct?

02:17:28.000 Like, you're, I love facts and stuff, right?

02:17:31.000 It seems like you are.

02:17:32.000 But some of this stuff with AI is going to be so bizarre that you're going to be like, I don't know how to process that.

02:17:39.000 Do you agree with that?

02:17:39.000 I don't know what that means.

02:17:43.000 Are you saying that AI is going to produce fake things to manipulate us?

02:17:46.000 That's already happening.

02:17:48.000 Right.

02:17:49.000 So that's, but it's only going to get.

02:17:51.000 We're going to get to a point socially where we say we can't believe our eyes and ears because AI is made fake.

02:17:55.000 1000%.

02:17:56.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:17:57.000 That's one of the things I'm saying.

02:17:58.000 That's absolutely true.

02:17:59.000 That's going to happen.

02:18:01.000 It's happening now.

02:18:01.000 Yeah, it's already happening.

02:18:03.000 So what reality in itself will be a complete insane?

02:18:08.000 Look at Candace Owens. 1.00

02:18:10.000 Reality is already nonsense.

02:18:12.000 These people live in this fake reality that she's built. 1.00

02:18:16.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99

02:18:16.000 And that's not even AI. 0.99

02:18:18.000 We have these M-A-O-Is, these DMTs. 1.00

02:18:20.000 Is that real or is that a character?

02:18:22.000 It's real. 0.99

02:18:23.000 It just goes into the fucking psilocybum bill over there. 0.99

02:18:27.000 Your body has a built-in inhibitor to the DMT. 0.99

02:18:31.000 I will say this because you're making some sense, and I'm not meaning to joke with you.

02:18:31.000 But here's the thing.

02:18:35.000 But what about the DMT experiment where everyone took the same amount of DMT and looked at the fucking? 0.93

02:18:43.000 They saw all the numbers through the laser. 0.93

02:18:44.000 Do you agree with that?

02:18:46.000 Do you think that's all hookish?

02:18:48.000 That they saw numbers and lasers because they were on drugs?

02:18:50.000 All of them the same thing.

02:18:52.000 They didn't.

02:18:53.000 I don't believe they saw the same numbers.

02:18:54.000 They didn't write them down.

02:18:55.000 Okay, dude.

02:18:56.000 But if all of us took drugs in here and we all saw a number in that board together, so that means we're all having a shared experience.

02:19:04.000 That's a little weird, don't you?

02:19:05.000 No, it means drugs make you hallucinate.

02:19:07.000 So we're all hallucinating the same thing?

02:19:09.000 They didn't prove it was the same thing.

02:19:10.000 No, but it was in the same world of numbers.

02:19:13.000 It was like shapes, the numbers or something.

02:19:14.000 They looked at a laser and they saw what they described as code of shapes they couldn't determine, they couldn't recognize, but it looked like writing.

02:19:22.000 They did not write them down and then compare notes.

02:19:24.000 That never happened.

02:19:25.000 Can you pull that video?

02:19:26.000 Can we pull that video down?

02:19:27.000 Bro, are you on the same page with this or not?

02:19:30.000 What are you talking about?

02:19:32.000 Am I on the same page about MT and something that's saying the numbers, if they were all numbers, multiple numbers?

02:19:39.000 No, they were hallucinating.

02:19:40.000 No, they all said they were numbers.

02:19:43.000 They said they were symbols that looked like code, like the matrix.

02:19:46.000 Okay, so all I'm saying.

02:19:47.000 And they didn't prove that they were uniform.

02:19:49.000 And so, as you've seen, different drugs have different effects.

02:19:53.000 So if everyone does Molly and then feels real touchy and feely, we don't go, that proves there is a hidden touchy-feely universe accessed by Molly.

02:20:03.000 That's a good point.

02:20:04.000 That's a good point.

02:20:05.000 But what I'm saying is, if I took a tab of Bart Simpson, you know what that is?

02:20:10.000 Acid.

02:20:11.000 And he took a tab of Bart Simpson. 0.99

02:20:14.000 If me and him both saw the same fucking palm tree, don't you think that'd be weird that we're hallucinating the same thing and he's 10 blocks away from me? 0.98

02:20:23.000 Let's just say that. 0.98

02:20:24.000 I would say the difficulty in palm tree is...

02:20:26.000 Whatever.

02:20:27.000 If, like...

02:20:27.000 It would have to...

02:20:28.000 If you both went in different rooms and both took acid and then you both saw the same alien face and it was singing gangsters rapping gangsters paradise.

02:20:37.000 Yes.

02:20:38.000 And you didn't communicate with each other.

02:20:39.000 And then afterwards you went, it was a purple head rapping gangster paradise. 0.99

02:20:42.000 You'd be like, wow, that's very strange, which is why DMT is interesting because there have been people who have taken it and when they blast off, they meet similar people despite never working, communicating with each other.

02:20:54.000 So we're on the same page.

02:20:55.000 The laser experience you're talking about, they never wrote down the symbols and compared them to prove they were seeing the same thing.

02:21:00.000 Interestingly, I see.

02:21:01.000 All right, well, I'll go off that one, but you're open to that.

02:21:04.000 Yeah, and they're doing extended state DMT and all that stuff to try and figure that out.

02:21:06.000 Okay.

02:21:06.000 We do got to pull in callers off.

02:21:08.000 I saw those.

02:21:09.000 We're pulling in uncapped turtle.

02:21:10.000 Please make Ian stop talking, uncapped turtle.

02:21:12.000 Can't do it.

02:21:13.000 You can try.

02:21:15.000 Thank you.

02:21:16.000 I would love to do that.

02:21:17.000 Thanks, Turtle.

02:21:19.000 I have a question for your esteemed guests, Mr. Kennedy.

02:21:22.000 Oh, this is a real call.

02:21:23.000 Yes, it is.

02:21:24.000 Yes, it is.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 10, 2025

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