On this week's episode of All Things Conspirative, we discuss the latest in the case of CEO Luigi Mangione and the conspiracy theories surrounding his death. Plus, we have a special guest on the show, Phil Labonte of the band All That Remains.
00:01:19.000Yikes, these people are dangerously stupid.
00:01:21.000All right, well, we're going to talk about that.
00:01:23.000And then we've got a bunch of other stories surrounding this, of course.
00:01:25.000But I'm really excited to talk about the UFOs because apparently they got these crazy drones over New Jersey that have actually started to cause an escalating problem.
00:01:34.000It's starting to pick up in the news cycle.
00:01:35.000So more and more people are wondering why there are high-tech, sophisticated drones flying over Jersey.
00:01:39.000Some people think it may just be U.S. military tech.
00:01:41.000But the United States has now released images of UFOs.
00:03:07.000I have been on the show before, actually, or the culture war, and I talked about my time in academia as a lecturer of English.
00:03:15.000So I got my PhD in English, spent many years in the academy, and And started a YouTube channel and started out covering mostly Me Too scams like the Johnny Depp hoax and the Marilyn Manson Me Too hoax and expanded in some other stuff.
00:03:31.000I talk about politics at times and, of course, film.
00:04:18.000We got the story from the Post Millennial.
00:04:19.000Manifesto of UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect released...
00:04:24.000So, normally, I gotta tell you, I actually don't like showing the pictures, the names, and the manifestos of these people who do these things because that was what they were trying to do.
00:04:35.000This dude clearly was trying to get his name out there, get attention, and push this cause.
00:04:42.000So, during the police transfer earlier, he was screaming leftist garbled nonsense about his lived experience.
00:05:56.000And it's like, so you're a crazy moron.
00:06:00.000I think it's important people know this so we can mock these leftists who would cheer for someone this dumb.
00:06:06.000The Post One Hill says, The parasites had it coming.
00:06:25.000He references the American healthcare system comprised primarily of private insurance companies, saying that it is the most expensive in the world, but that American life expectancy is 42nd globally.
00:06:34.000This appears to be his reasoning for targeting the CEO, Brian Thompson.
00:06:38.000UnitedHealthcare is the largest private insurer in the U.S. He was denied bail.
00:06:41.000It goes on to basically read, like, of the whole manifesto.
00:06:46.000I don't want to read the whole thing outright, just because, well, I mean, maybe we should read...
00:06:54.000Normally, I don't want to be like, look at what he said!
00:06:57.000But I actually think we should read it because the guy's so dangerously stupid, he should be mocked, and anybody who supports him should be laughed at.
00:07:03.000So he says to the feds, I'll keep this short because I do respect what you do for our country.
00:07:06.000To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly I wasn't working with anyone.
00:07:59.000Deep-fried chicken balls soaked in sugar syrup.
00:08:02.000This is what people eat on a regular basis.
00:08:04.000So the problem he's seeing is that America has a sick culture with mass-produced garbage food and chemicals, and then he blames our healthcare industry on it.
00:08:13.000Perhaps the reason the healthcare industry is so expensive is because Americans are morbidly obese, sick, don't exercise and eat garbage.
00:08:27.000He says, but many have illuminated the corruption and greed, e.g.
00:08:30.000Rosenthal and Moore, decades ago, and the problems simply remain.
00:08:32.000It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play.
00:08:36.000Let me read the sentence before he says, obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly, I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.
00:08:55.000He spent all of his years in institutionalized learning facilities, got out, allegedly did a bunch of psychoactive drugs, and then said, you know what, I can't actually make the argument, I don't know, but someone has to do something, and then kills a random guy unrelated to whatever his problem is.
00:09:26.000And then the back injury story was that he was at a surf retreat, and after wiping out, it exacerbated this existing condition, leaving him bedridden for a week.
00:10:23.000Because of his lower back issue, he couldn't, I guess, and this is what the reports are saying, and it's a bunch of, you know, hey, I know this guy, here's what happened.
00:10:33.000According to, like, Reddit posts and what they think in media, and these are rumors, maybe they're not true, according to roommates, His hips and lower back, he had a difficult time moving them without nerve pain.
00:10:44.000Anybody who's ever pinched a nerve knows you ain't moving if you've got a pinched nerve.
00:10:48.000And so because of this, apparently some guy said that he had talked to him directly.
00:11:10.000That's making choices that lead you to a place where they're not interested in you.
00:11:14.000But this guy literally apparently could not perform.
00:11:20.000great degree of mental illness, maybe exacerbated by, I know you mentioned psychedelics, but I just wonder too, what all was he taking either officially or unofficially for this back pain?
00:11:30.000And it just seems like a muddled mind.
00:11:36.000And he, there was a bunch of books about psilocybin, um, and other, uh, hallucinogens or psychoactive drugs or whatever, which doesn't, you know, that's not a good thing if you're depressed, which it's, you know, again, these are all, this is all alleged to be, but if he's depressed because he has chronic massive this is all alleged to be, but if he's depressed because he has chronic massive back pain that inhibits his, that has degraded his quality you know, psilocybin or taking magic mushrooms probably isn't a great idea.
00:12:24.000He read half-brained, crackhead arguments on Reddit where he literally says, we have the most expensive health care, but we are 42nd in life expectancy.
00:13:10.000After Jordan Neely got arrested the 50th time or whatever it was, after the arrest for punching the 6, 7-year-old woman in the face, reportedly he got treatment and housing.
00:13:21.000And two weeks later, he skipped and left.
00:13:31.000He just read something dumb on the Internet and then decided to end someone's life.
00:13:35.000And like if he was tripping, we were kind of talking before the show about if psychedelics are good or bad, just drugs in general and the whole conversation.
00:13:43.000Like you were saying, Phil, they're an enhancer.
00:13:45.000And from my experience, psychoactives enhance your mood.
00:13:48.000If your mood is terrible, they make it more terrible.
00:13:50.000And if it's good, they make it more good.
00:13:52.000So if this guy is seriously depressed and taking psychedelics, I can see him making crazy unattached associations and just out of anger and like grabbing at stupid...
00:14:05.000It's like it reminds me of, you know, a beautiful mind or something and go in there and there's all this stuff on the wall.
00:14:11.000I don't know if we can read too much into this, but I do think, though, that the symbolism that it's taken on in our culture is interesting.
00:14:19.000And obviously, it's completely messed up that people are lionizing him as a hero.
00:14:24.000But I do think it points to an underlying frustration that a lot of people have with our health care system and how screwed up it is.
00:14:30.000Yeah, but this is something that I mentioned last night.
00:14:34.000The frustration with our healthcare system is actually a frustration with the government and with the way that our healthcare is structured.
00:14:44.000Well, the system, yes, but it's not the companies that are at fault.
00:14:48.000Why should your health insurance or why should your healthcare be attached to a job?
00:14:52.000Why can't you go to a doctor and say, hey, I don't have a job that...
00:14:56.000I don't have my health insurance through a job.
00:14:59.000I just want to go ahead and pay you for this because I want this service provided.
00:15:04.000You can't really do that because prices are not attached to...
00:15:08.000The purchaser doesn't actually see the prices because of the way that healthcare is.
00:15:13.000So it convolutes the market and you don't have the same kind of competition that you do in other markets.
00:15:19.000And so this is a complex topic that's actually fairly nuanced when it comes down to it, but because the left is still kind of ascendant when it comes to narrative building, the left has convinced simple people that it's a simple idea.
00:15:37.000Healthcare is desirable and good, and because there are people that make profit off of healthcare or in any way, they're the evil ones when someone dies because they don't get the healthcare.
00:16:05.000Anytime you allow the left to build the narrative around anything, it works in a very simple way.
00:16:12.000The people that don't get what they want are the oppressed, the people that have power are the oppressors, and the people that don't get what they want have the right to kill or steal from the people that do.
00:17:28.000Lived experience is such an esoteric phrase that if you went to any mall in this country and walked to someone and said, define lived experience, they would go, huh?
00:17:52.000What is your life like is the way I would ask a question like that.
00:17:55.000But I think they're more what that question means is your lived experience is how do you perceive the way you're being treated by your surroundings?
00:18:28.000But I just want to express to people...
00:18:30.000Back in the day when university was unattainable, when it was very difficult and you had to be wealthy and these are longstanding institutions, yeah, the smartest people got to go to them for the most part.
00:18:39.000Now anyone who wants to take out massive five-figure loans can go to them just because – actually, what show was I watching?
00:18:50.000And I think he's talking to, Sylvester Stallone's talking to the kid, and he says, the point of a degree is so that you can prove to your boss that you'll sit down, shut up, and do as you're told for a long period of time.
00:19:13.000Seemingly uninterested in actually looking for the information.
00:19:15.000Yeah, he's like, I just can't put these things together, but these are the ideas I have learned.
00:19:20.000And if he was a methodical killer, the way he did it was very planned and scripted and done.
00:19:26.000I probably thought he was, like, igniting a spark.
00:19:28.000I've seen some people comparing him to the Robert Palmer idea, you know, from Fight Club, which, you know, I love that movie, but it's a silly comparison.
00:20:11.000There are some people who are not developmentally disabled, but there's a phenomenon where they have perfect recall, and it's considered to be some kind of a disability because it actually is difficult to navigate the present.
00:20:23.000So there are people, you can go to them and say, September 17th, 2013, 5am.
00:20:31.000And they will literally tell you exactly what they were doing.
00:20:55.000Unless, as some people are speculating, he was intending to get caught so that he could have these lived experience outbursts with the police.
00:24:33.000He just showed up one day and slipped through like a doily snake, made it to the top of that building that nobody was on top of for some reason.
00:24:41.000And this guy, it's like, within a couple days, it's like, we can tell you how many, like, zits he's had.
00:24:47.000Yeah, this is like that underwater submersible implosion, taking the world's attention by storm, where everyone's interested in finding this.
00:25:30.000But there's a lot of people who are saying this is a psyop because when they first released the person of interest photos, I'm like, that's not the same guy.
00:25:38.000You look at the picture of the video of the assassination of the CEO. That was weird.
00:25:43.000The picture of the CEO. And it looks like he has a little heavier set and he seems to have thinner eyebrows and appears to be older, but who knows?
00:26:06.000So that's why I'm saying, like, at the time, I thought when they said, here's a photo of a person of interest, everybody said, that's the shooter.
00:26:16.000This has happened before, where people rush to accuse a person of interest of being the shooter or the bomber.
00:26:22.000And I'm not going to name the specific incidents, but 10 years ago, there was a very, very serious incident where the wrong person was ID'd, and it caused a lot of problems.
00:26:30.000And I'm like, a person of interest could be a guy they saw on camera, give him a high five.
00:26:34.000And they're like, how does that person know him?
00:26:37.000But everybody just said it was the shooter.
00:26:39.000Well, now they're saying it was, so...
00:26:41.000You know, and I think you mentioned that the healthcare industry, the whole system is kind of busted up, like the whole pharmaceutical industry, the food and drug, food and drug, but the way that they'll create, you know, toxic chemicals in the food supply that will then poison people and then they feed them medicine and they profit off of both arms.
00:27:01.000Like, I don't think there's a silver bullet.
00:27:04.000I don't think that there is an immediate drastic solution like what this guy thought, that if this was the guy, killing a CEO is going to solve anything.
00:27:12.000That's why I support RFK in positions of power in the government, because I think it's a long...
00:27:18.000So we got into this in a long, slow way, and it's going to be a long, slow path out.
00:27:22.000I heard they're going to maybe ban Red 40 out of the...
00:27:26.000Red 3. Red 3. One of the red azo dyes out of the food supply, which is like, hey man, that's a step.
00:27:33.000Honestly, I think the fastest way to do it is to limit the government's ability, or to limit the government's involvement.
00:27:39.000If you put healthcare, not health insurance, but if you put care on the market, if you make...
00:27:47.000If they said that the hospitals and doctors, they have to put their prices...
00:27:54.000Make their prices available for people to look at and make it possible for you to go from one doctor to another doctor and try out, see, hey, this doctor will do the procedure I want for cheaper.
00:28:06.000Unless you're dealing with something that's really, really bad or specialized, like cancer, when it comes to broken legs or broken bones, or if you need...
00:28:19.000You know, you need antibiotics because you got an infection, you got a cut that's infected or whatever.
00:28:24.000If you put that stuff on a market, you'll see the price of healthcare, that kind of healthcare, go down significantly really, really, really fast.
00:28:35.000But the fact of the matter, and you shouldn't need, you should not need insurance because you broke a bone.
00:28:42.000Well, I think one of the things that we could do a better job of really trying to foreground for people is just the sheer, massive, unnecessary amount of bureaucracy involved now.
00:28:55.000For instance, I know doctors who've been in the industry for decades, and they're counseling people, don't get into this industry because you're going to spend 90% of your time doing paperwork.
00:29:06.00090% of a doctor's time spent doing paperwork, and a lot of that is tied up with the government and government requirements.
00:29:14.000And so I think that these are things that should be foregrounded in any discussion.
00:30:29.000They do this thing where, to make the dental work heal faster, they will take your own blood, spin down, like, spin it to get the platelets, and then inject the platelets so that it...
00:31:08.000I think it's more like the government comes up to the doctor and says, hey, you know, maybe you give us a little piece of what you're doing and you come to us before you do it.
00:31:18.000And they're like, that's going to take me months.
00:31:36.000So when the government stepped in and said, you can't pay these people more than this because this job is only worth this much, etc., then the companies had to come up with other ways to attract the best workers.
00:31:52.000So the way that they did it was they came up with benefit packages.
00:33:30.000And I was like, yeah, she could do something.
00:33:32.000And he was like, if you pay anyone above markets, they have to have a position with a job description.
00:33:40.000And it has to be, you have to be able to prove upon audit they do that job.
00:33:46.000Because understand, there are lots of wealthy people that would love to hire a family member for a ridiculous salary, so they could funnel money to another company, to a family, to a friend, or whatever.
00:33:57.000So let me just stress it one more time. - Phil, 100% correct.
00:34:01.000We have a list of every employee here Their job title is a legitimate title that is recognized by the government, and it has to fit the parameters of what people get paid.
00:34:09.000If we go above that, we risk getting audited and accused of trying to skip on taxes.
00:34:14.000So this is why these CEOs will have salaries, I'm actually asking, of like, you know, meager means, $600,000 a year, whatever.
00:34:37.00083. Don't want to mix him up with Hunter Biden's payments from Burisma.
00:34:41.000But that's because I think it comes down to a million a year.
00:34:43.000So then the benefits is where, and then companies get creative with benefits, and that's how they funnel wealth into their employment?
00:34:49.000So one common practice is, okay, so this job is, you're a software engineer, you make $120,000 a year, you can get paid more.
00:34:58.000You can say, this person's getting $150,000, the market rate is $120,000, that's reasonable.
00:35:04.000And you can arguably say, well, this is the best engineer in the world, we're paying him double, and that's still technically reasonable.
00:35:11.000What they end up doing is they'll say, okay, we're going to hire you at 120 market rate.
00:35:15.000We're going to give you another 120 in CDs to be paid out, half at this point, half at this point, so it doesn't appear as income, and you'll pay taxes in the year after your contract expires.
00:35:25.000So they'll say, a three-year contract to complete the project.
00:35:28.000Once the project is over, you're going to have a CD that you can then cash out so for that year you'll receive capital gains income or whatever and it will be taxed at a different rate.
00:35:39.000There's a whole bunch of ways powerful and wealthy individuals navigate the tax system that people don't understand.
00:35:45.000But I just want to say this one more time.
00:35:47.000The government doesn't let you give money to anybody you want.
00:35:51.000The government doesn't let you hire anybody you want.
00:35:53.000And so what Phil's saying is companies then say, okay, we'll pay for your health insurance.
00:36:17.000And it all started because of government intervention.
00:36:19.000And the government shouldn't have, the government has no right to do this, but a large part of the justification, just like Tim said, is because of taxes.
00:36:30.000It's because the government will say, well, you're doing this so that way you can evade taxes.
00:36:34.000So the income tax, which is, I mean, I find that to be terrible policy anyways, It is used to control people in ways that most people don't even think about.
00:36:48.000The income tax is why the dollar has value, which we've talked about before.
00:36:52.000before, the fact that the income tax is required to be paid in U.S. dollars, that's what allowed them to take the backing of gold and silver away.
00:37:03.000It used to be the gold and silver backed the dollar and that's what gave it value.
00:37:09.000But now because of the income tax, they've created what they call modern monetary theory where taxation is what gives the dollar value because there's always going to be a demand for dollars.
00:37:19.000Here's another great comment from a healthy user.
00:37:22.000Tim's employees should be 1099 contracts so he can pay them whatever they want.
00:37:31.000And so when we talk to people, you know, I hear these comments on, you know, I went to go work for, I got a contract offer from Insert Media Company, and they wanted to own everything I had.
00:37:43.000And I'm like, yeah, that's like a legal requirement.
00:37:45.000Like, blame the government for all of this.
00:37:47.000Stop blaming corporations for doing what the government is forcing them to do and start blaming the government.
00:37:51.000And then we can get Thomas Massey and Rand Paul.
00:37:54.000We can get Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:37:56.000And they can start ripping into shreds the bureaucracy, firing people who shouldn't be there, and figure out why things are regulated in such ridiculous ways.
00:38:28.000Literally, his fingertips are gone and it's just bones sticking out.
00:38:30.000And he's like, I am an old man and I have made $50 million so I can give to my children.
00:38:34.000children and the government goes no we get half first we're going to tax it at 30 37 percent you're going to pay on average uh look if a wealthy person is playing their cards right with a tax lawyer and an accountant then depending on where they're making their money if it's income it's going to be 37 percent then you got property taxes and everything else if they're playing loopholes with capital gains they can make a lot of money doing other things but let's just say someone does physical labor To the point where they made $50 million.
00:39:01.000They get taxed at 37% on everything above, I think it's like $270,000.
00:39:06.000It might be like $360,000 right now if he's married.
00:39:11.000So the majority of it is taxed at basically more than a third.
00:39:15.000Then when he dies, they get another half of that.
00:39:18.000Why can't someone just give their family member money having earned it if they choose?
00:39:25.000What they do is they either create limited liability corporations where they start a company with a family member and then say, I'm investing a billion dollars into this company, of which my son is a 50% shareholder.
00:40:04.000It would be like a family trust or something.
00:40:06.000There are trusts out of Delaware where you basically don't pay any taxes.
00:40:10.000And so the argument is, I could be totally wrong about this because I don't do it, but I had talked to a tax lawyer and he's like, here's what you do.
00:40:18.000You get a specific kind of trust out of Delaware.
00:40:21.000It costs $5,000 a year to maintain with the state.
00:40:24.000All of your money goes into this trust, and the trust acts as the legal entity that does the financial dealings.
00:40:30.000A trust is not an entity that can be taxed.
00:40:33.000So if it makes capital gains, it doesn't get taxed itself.
00:40:36.000Then when you pull the money out, you get taxed on it.
00:40:40.000But it basically avoids double taxation, and it allows you to make capital gains without in the immediate, the trust is just being replenished and you're getting wealthier.
00:40:49.000So there's all these, there's loopholes.
00:40:50.000I think that, I think that there's a real disconnect between a lot of the underlying government causes of a lot of these frustrations and problems that people have and people's awareness of it.
00:41:03.000And you know, we're talking about Taylor Lorenz last night and her laughable comments.
00:41:08.000And I think that, you know, there's so many people actually like her out there who have some vague sense that there's something wrong with our healthcare system.
00:41:17.000And more symbolically satisfying to blame it on the CEOs of insurance companies than to actually get into the muck of really dissecting what's going on here with this, a lot of it having to do with government interference and regulation.
00:41:29.000Yeah, but I do think the government has a role, and that's the government being an arm of the people, the people coming together socially and being like, we're going to ban certain products from sale in our country, like poison.
00:41:41.000Certain poisons that are very profitable and addictive to the human body may be like...
00:41:47.000I don't know how addictive they are, but like petroleum-based food coloring apparently causes hypertension or can lead to hypertension in children and humans, which can cause inflammation.
00:41:56.000So like, maybe we could ban that stuff like RFKs.
00:41:59.000When you look at the US versus Europe, you know, there's a joke among people who...
00:42:04.000Have ever traveled to Europe that you feel so much better after you've been away from this place and the food that we eat for a while.
00:42:11.000And that's because actually, you know, if you go to Europe, a lot of the time you're getting food more or less sort of straight from the source, you know, straight from the source, American gangster reference there.
00:42:48.000And Allison grabbed a pack of this, I don't know what the company is, and I looked at the ingredients, and it's got a bunch of weird garbage in it.
00:42:58.000Daisy, which does the sour cream and the cottage cheese, their ingredients, it's like skim milk cream salt.
00:43:03.000And I'm like, okay, I'm going to buy that.
00:43:07.000So for a lot of people, they're eating Kraft macaroni and cheese, they're eating these off-the-shelf products with tartrazine and red dye three and those other things, because it's cheap.
00:43:24.000And it sort of is an extrapolation of the lion diet that Michaela Peterson talks a lot about, which ultimately, from what she's explained, it's just all meat.
00:43:32.000Whatever a lion would eat, that's what she eats.
00:43:38.000But then what's really happening is it's an elimination diet, all All the stuff you don't eat, all the stuff you've taken out of your diet, I think that's what the government should be doing, is providing a sort of elimination diet now for our populace.
00:43:50.000This is a big trend among millennials.
00:43:52.000Like, soda consumption is massively down.
00:43:55.000And that's why there's these commercials popping up where it's the Coalition of Soda Drinks of America.
00:44:00.000Did you know that we have low sugar options?
00:44:02.000And then there's like a guy in a white lab coat and they like show all these things.
00:44:06.000And I'm like, I have here a Spindrift.
00:44:08.000They do not sponsor the show, but I will shout them out.
00:45:51.000I have a feeling that it's going to go to the Supreme Court.
00:45:54.000I have a feeling there's going to be challenges and then it's going to go to the Supreme Court, which is a good thing because then the Supreme Court can actually rule on whether or not there should be anchor babies or not.
00:46:05.000So conceptually, I think most Americans, and I can't say everyone, but I think most Americans are against the idea of if you can get pregnant and then get to America when you're nine months pregnant, no one's going to send you away because you're nine months pregnant and oh look the poor pregnant lady have a baby and then you can just stay because you got here.
00:46:30.000Let me pull up the 14th Amendment so I can break this down for everybody and the leftists can whinge.
00:46:35.000Section 1 of the 14th Amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside.
00:46:51.000Well, I mean, initially it was to make sure that black slaves were considered...
00:46:56.000They were literally saying, of the adult population in this country that was born here and subject to our jurisdiction, we hereby say you are citizens.
00:47:07.000That was the point of the 14th Amendment.
00:47:09.000It was not to say, at some point when a person from Germany shows up and has a baby, that baby under our jurisdiction will be a citizen.
00:47:45.000And it's turned into somehow that a Guatemalan family can illegally enter the country by crossing a border and then within a few months give birth and that baby is now a permanent citizen.
00:48:16.000Now, I know the founding fathers didn't intend for people flying around on anything, because they certainly didn't comprehend how that would happen.
00:48:46.000I think that they were also trying to grow the population for the first half of the country's existence, for the first two-thirds, up until the...
00:48:54.000Yeah, but they had like seven kids, dude.
00:49:34.000I was told that by a hardcore Jewish man.
00:49:36.000So I don't know, maybe they were more lax about having new citizens before when they wrote this thing, but the idea that a British person could come over here, sneak into the country, well, ideally people weren't sneaking into the country, but have a kid and then take them back to Britain, educate them with the British ideology, but they're an American citizen is crazy.
00:49:57.000And I don't know why there's not a loophole in there for like, you've got to live here for 10 years or something.
00:50:02.000I just don't think they anticipated this entire matrix of travel, like he was saying, air travel, and also just the huge influx of immigration that we would end up having.
00:50:14.000And they said, you can amend this Constitution.
00:50:17.000We're writing it for today, and you're supposed to change it over time when it makes sense for your community and your society.
00:50:25.000It's a static document because it is a stringent process to change it.
00:50:32.000Yes, it's a static document that can be changed, and its order of stasis can be renewed.
00:50:36.000Donald Trump will issue an executive order on day one.
00:50:38.000The ACLU will have a seizure and vomit on themselves and file a lawsuit, and then it will quickly go to the Supreme Court as it is already a federal issue.
00:50:47.000And the Supreme Court will – I think they'll agree with Trump.
00:50:53.000I mean, I hope so, because I do think that the idea of, you know, anchor babies, someone just coming here and being like, oh, now me and my...
00:51:02.000Because, I mean, you get the whole, like, someone is born here, or you have a kid here, and then mom can stay to take care of the kid, and then because of that, they can start chain migration.
00:51:58.000I do have a policy preference that I want to see, but I really want to see what happens when Donald Trump is actually the president again and is actually starting to influence policy, making executive orders, and pressuring Congress to do things and pass legislation that he can sign.
00:52:17.000If he was to do this executive order thing, what would that look like?
00:52:21.000Well, I mean, he said, I don't know, I don't think that it's been fleshed out, but there are people, even if he didn't tell people on his staff that this was his intent before he said this on the show, you know, as soon as they heard him say that, they're like, alright, well, we gotta start writing.
00:52:39.000Because that's exactly what happened when he made an offhanded remark about silencers when there was a shooting used with a silencer.
00:52:49.000He was like, yeah, someone said, don't you think these should be illegal?
00:52:51.000And he's like, well, we'll look into it.
00:52:53.000Even though he didn't actually specifically tell any when he said it in an interview, people heard that, people on his staff heard that, like, all right, we've got to start coming up with some kind of framework for how that'll work, etc., etc.
00:53:03.000So this is like he's saying he's going to make an executive order that will override the Constitution?
00:53:33.000If two people came here from China and gave birth to a child, and then the U.S. tried taking that child, saying it's ours, what do you think China's gonna do?
00:54:46.000But why would a child be subject to our jurisdiction simply for being born here, right?
00:54:51.000Let's say a family from Mexico visits the United States as tourists and they bring their seven-year-old kid.
00:54:55.000None of them are subject to our jurisdiction.
00:54:58.000We have certain jurisdictions where we can say we're deporting you, but they're subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico as Mexican nationals.
00:55:05.000And we have a treaty by which we respect them and we allow them here on certain terms.
00:55:09.000So the argument they're making is that, oh, but if you're in our jurisdiction, we can arrest you.
00:55:14.000And it's like, yes, but we can't imprison you because it creates an international crisis where that country then makes demands over their citizens who they have jurisdiction over.
00:55:22.000A lot of times if someone from another country breaks the law, we'll arrest them and then just ship them out of here.
00:55:28.000You are here in our country, committed a crime, and we're sending you home.
00:55:30.000What does it mean to be subject to the jurisdiction of what I'm looking up right now?
00:55:34.000The principle argument is that when this was written, it was referring to slaves of the United States who were born here and have no other country to call home.
00:55:44.000They were under the jurisdiction of the U.S. government where slave patrols could capture them if they tried to escape.
00:55:51.000After the Civil War, they said, if you were born here and subject to our jurisdiction, you're a citizen.
00:55:57.000Wong Kim Ark 169 U.S. 649. In 1898, the Supreme Court wrote that subject to the jurisdiction would appear to have been to exclude by the fewest and fittest words besides children of members of the Indian tribes.
00:56:13.000Can you articulate that one more time?
00:56:15.000So it's supposed to be subject to the jurisdiction.
00:56:18.000It appears to have excluded children of members of Indian tribes.
00:56:24.000So here's a super chat from Amos Moses says, Before the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, Indians born in the U.S. were not citizens because they were not subject to the U.S. jurisdiction.
00:56:39.000Still to this day, on native land, there are certain federal regulations based on treaties, but this is what actually created casinos.
00:56:46.000They were arguing that they were not to be regulated by the state, and the states were like, yeah, right, and they were like, try me, dude.
00:56:53.000Technically, that's why you hear about the Cherokee Nation.
00:56:56.000They're considered a nation of their own.
00:56:59.000They're considered separate from the United States of America.
00:57:02.000And because of that, they're not subject to the jurisdiction.
00:57:28.000The ships took a long time to get across the ocean.
00:57:31.000So it wasn't impossible, but it was much harder than it is today where, you know, if you have a thousand dollars or a couple thousand dollars, you can get across the ocean and get an escort all the way through South America up to the border.
00:57:46.000I mean, there was still resentment, you know, even a hundred years ago or so of immigrants.
00:57:50.000But it was definitely, I mean, the accessibility now and the ease with which people can...
00:58:14.000But we have, you know, Trump has the White House, and the Republicans have both houses, and the Supreme Court is pretty stacked, so there should be no issue then, right, with him implementing...
00:58:24.000Yeah, now Trump can arrest every single Democratic voter in the country and send them to Europe.
00:58:30.000Let's jump to the story for the nation.
00:58:32.000President Biden should issue a blanket pardon of undocumented immigrants.
00:58:35.000I'm not going to read a stupid argument.
00:58:37.000Basically, the nation is arguing that Biden should basically say all illegal immigrants are hereby pardoned for the crime of entering the country and Trump can't deport you.
00:58:45.000Well, I mean, you could still I don't know the details of what's in this stupid piece by the nation, which is basically a communist rag.
00:58:54.000But the idea that just because you're pardoned, Just because you're pardoned doesn't mean that you become a citizen.
00:59:03.000So maybe the pardon will say, okay, you're not subject to punishment, but that doesn't mean we can't still wrap you up and send you back home.
00:59:13.000At least I don't understand why it would mean that they're automatically naturalized.
00:59:20.000You could pardon them for the crime of entering the country, but that doesn't mean that them being here isn't still a crime.
00:59:25.000Well, not only that, but even if they say, okay, this isn't a crime, you being here, but you can say you aren't a citizen, so you need to go back to where you're from.
00:59:33.000We're not going to put you into the...
00:59:40.000You're not going to have to go to jail or anything or pay any fines, but we can still remove you and send you home.
00:59:46.000I'm just amazed at how tone-deaf, how persistently tone-deaf these kinds of writers, these kinds of articles are.
00:59:54.000To not be able to read the room better, I mean, the place that we're at as a nation now is I think that immigration, undocumented, illegal immigration, it has reached a level that almost everyone agrees it's a problem.
01:00:07.000I don't think, I mean, this is just this kind of, this attitude is so outdated and so it's just interesting after this election to see this still being promoted.
01:00:15.000It was like 70% of Americans were comfortable with not just closing the border or building the wall or whatever.
01:00:23.000It was 70% of Americans were okay with rounding up illegals and sending them home.
01:00:28.000And many more Latinos, for example, than the left would, than the left evidently expected.
01:00:34.000And I, and you know, I'm from Texas and I interact all the time with people from Latino heritage and they, and so many of them are fed up with undocumented illegal immigration themselves.
01:00:48.000And they say, really, it's insulting for people to assume that just because I'm from this particular heritage that I don't believe in doing things in a proper law-abiding way.
01:01:01.000A lot of people, once they make it to America, they want to shut the door behind them because they understand that if you let too many people in, then it's not going to be the place they were wanting to immigrate to in the first place.
01:02:26.000You don't know how to get ID. You're too stupid or you're too non-savvy about basic internet technology and government procedures to get an ID. So insulting.
01:02:35.000How racist people can become in the attempt to be non-racist.
01:03:36.000And as many people have been pointing out over the past couple of weeks, like Arne McIntyre is making this point, The Civil Rights Act has basically – was the first domino to fall over in what created racial grievance and identitarian grievance.
01:03:53.000And I don't think they're completely wrong.
01:03:56.000I don't know that I completely agree 100 percent because I do believe that just because we say, hey man, like – Let's be reasonable.
01:04:02.000Don't tell someone they can't shop at your store because they're black or they're Mexican or whatever.
01:04:08.000But the end result basically turns into everybody will file lawsuits citing that precedent and simply saying, because of my insert immutable characteristic, I am protected and you can't do these things to me.
01:04:20.000So the Civil Rights Act has basically created the circumstance where everybody now wants to justify why they are an aggrieved class, a victim.
01:05:41.000You look at it just plaintively without presumption, like having a large influx of foreigners illegally into your country can damage the stability of your country.
01:06:01.000If you look at it from the starting point of how do we stabilize the system, then I think pretty much, like you were saying, 70% of the people are like, yeah, yeah, you can't just barge through the border unaffiliated.
01:06:15.000It's too destabilizing for any country.
01:06:17.000Yeah, look, the idea of assimilation was something that was obvious and basically universal for Americans.
01:06:28.000Yeah, I mean, look at the early part of the 20th century, the people that came to America, the young people weren't allowed to speak the home country's language at home because they wanted to make sure the kids learned English and spoke English, and they all tried to become American.
01:07:09.000World Economic Forum for trying to disempower the United States' greatness and take control of these global liberal economic order banks, seeding poison into the minds of the American youth and the global youth.
01:08:05.000I mean, maybe we need some protective essence on the planet, but I'm talking about the cultural benevolence of free speech and things like that.
01:08:14.000I think, you know, Ian had this rant where he said the U.S. military should go and bring constitutional republicanism to all countries of the planet, whether they want it or not.
01:08:45.000And I can't remember, like, Elad was like, my man!
01:08:48.000He would have said that if I did today.
01:08:50.000It was like Afghanistan and you said we were bringing constitutional order that would guarantee free speech and certain rights to people around the world.
01:08:57.000I don't think that imposing authority through force is the way anymore because the internet, you see it, you see through it, but the cultural...
01:09:05.000Like, awesomeness of the music and the television shows.
01:09:08.000The little kids that want to learn English from the age of one, that want to be a movie star, they want to go to Hollywood.
01:10:31.000And I certainly hope he's wrong, too, considering it's been a month since the election where he did predict Trump would win and then we would see 1,000 dead.
01:10:38.000Two people have died thus far on politically motivated grounds.
01:10:43.000It's the CEO, of course, and then someone tried to kill Marjorie Taylor Greene and in the circumstance ended up killing an innocent woman.
01:10:51.000Now, I know a lot of people are going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened?
01:10:55.000I know when I tell you the real story, you're going to say, ah, OK, she was swatted and the bomb squad rushing to her home to save her life crashed, killing an innocent woman who is driving and got hit.
01:11:07.000So that's collateral damage of leftist terrorism.
01:11:11.000But I do believe it is fair to say that someone made an attempt on the life of Marjorie Taylor Greene, and as the police rushed to save her, the killing of the innocent woman is her getting caught in the crossfire.
01:12:52.000I don't feel like it's political the same way that the person that attacked Nancy Mace is clearly political.
01:13:01.000And I mean, I know that there are people that are going to say, Oh, Phil, the data says, the data says, the data says, but there are extremely obvious and clear Examples of leftist violence that are obviously leftist.
01:13:21.000All of the riots during the Summer of Love, when the guy attacked the congressional baseball game and shot Steve Scalise, the attacks on Rand Paul.
01:13:31.000Rand Paul's been attacked himself three or four different times.
01:13:34.000One time when he was just walking down the street in, not the one at his house, but he was walking down the street in D.C., The shooters that were just trying to kill Trump, they both, neither of them, I don't care what anyone says, they weren't Trump supporters.
01:13:49.000That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
01:13:51.000I do got to read a super chat here real quick.
01:14:26.000He was—and a lot of people responded to me saying, dude, January 3rd, like the Congress comes in, January 6th, Trump wins, then the inauguration.
01:14:37.000January 21st, Trump signs, no birthright citizenship, begin the deportations.
01:15:24.000Because like, are we going to really play this game where it's like a guy who ranted at one point and then later for different reasons did a thing?
01:15:30.000The idea that Rudyard had that he was expressing was that the political tensions in this country would get so great that we would see people dying because of it.
01:16:01.000I hope that he just gets the job done and they cry on the internet.
01:16:05.000I do feel like the anti-Trump hysteria really did peak, I think, in the last election, 2016, when Trump was elected.
01:16:15.000I feel like basically what's happened now up to this point is that people, even who didn't like Trump, they did realize that Okay, this guy, it turns out, is not Mussolini.
01:17:40.000That's the thing about him, his North Korean diplomacy, cooling tensions with North Korea, cooling tensions with Russia, cooling tensions with...
01:17:48.000I mean, the guy is just a super charismatic master diplomat.
01:17:53.000And that is a great upgrade from slowly Joe Biden.
01:17:57.000He's just like falling over at the wheel, exhausted.
01:18:03.000And there wasn't another better option.
01:18:05.000Well, and you mentioned, you know, The Apprentice, and something that my husband is always saying is that people spent years, before Trump got into politics, they spent years being introduced to him through the television.
01:18:18.000And so there's a basic comfort level that a lot of Americans have that the media might not have, but a lot of Americans have known Trump for a long time, and they're cool with him.
01:18:29.000You know, anybody listening that, even if you do or don't have issues with Trump, go back and watch old clips of The Apprentice and Trump in the boardroom, because the dude is just, he's cool, man.
01:18:41.000It turns out he's actually pretty good.
01:18:43.000He might actually be neutral, because he's like, look, sometimes the good people fail in business, and that's just the harsh reality of it.
01:20:30.000He doesn't want to hurt people unless necessary, which is like, you know, Soleimani he killed, but that was because he had political justification for that.
01:20:41.000Whether you agree with it or not, the point is that he's not out there thinking, oh, I'm just going to go and start wars to start wars.
01:22:29.000He'd just be like, why are you asking me?
01:22:31.000I don't know, the ice cream's over there.
01:22:33.000And they did that thing where his salt and pepper shakers were bigger than everyone else's, and I'm like, dude, I don't think Trump manages the salt and pepper shakers.
01:23:32.000I really hope that that is a legit thing, that they do a good job with that, because I frankly am dubious that anyone has the guts to deal with our debt problem.
01:23:41.000I just don't know, in a democracy, if that is a solvable issue when...
01:23:47.000When the votes really depend on getting, you know, an older demographic to support you and to support your party.
01:23:54.000And I just feel like any real solutions to the debt problem, it's going to have to involve cuts to Social Security, raising retirement age.
01:24:29.000So as long as whoever is in the position to make financial decisions for the country isn't talking about cutting or preventing the increases, stopping the growth of the debt, stopping the growth of the deficit...
01:24:49.000If they're not talking about that, then they're not talking about fixing the problem.
01:24:53.000Right now, I just looked it up the other day, right now, without changes, Social Security, Medicare, go insolvent in 2033. That's eight years.
01:25:02.000So, I mean, if you want to actually fix the problem, because...
01:27:43.000The guy throws a litter out the window and then he looks and then a tear comes down.
01:27:47.000I just love the notion there that it was like, for the average American, the Native Americans cared substantially more about the land than you.
01:28:20.000If we don't step on the gas, literally, and upgrade our fuel systems to integrate hydrogen, it's going to be a big economic split with the people that had crypto and the people that didn't.
01:29:14.000I think it all relies on the fuel, man.
01:29:16.000I've heard they're making, and I don't know, I haven't done any kind of actual digging, but I've heard they've made some really significant advances in battery technology.
01:29:28.000Oh yeah, solid state batteries were a big deal a couple years ago that they had figured out how to do that, and that means they can be very, very small and have tons of energy.
01:29:35.000They figured out how to use nuclear waste in battery, diamond batteries.
01:29:38.000Oh yeah, there was this thing I read about how it's like a tiny piece of radioactive material or whatever, and it just powers it forever.
01:29:45.000Yeah, I think it causes a vibration in the lattice of the crystal of the diamond, and then it causes this slow energy pulse, because it's constantly, I think it might be piezoelectric, because it's constantly like...
01:29:58.000They've been talking about that for a while, where your cell phone would charge as you walked from the vibrations.
01:30:04.000And we talked about this before, too, with that flashlight that you would whack off.
01:30:10.000It has the magnet in the middle, and so you go like this, and it sends the magnet back and forth through the copper coil, and then it charges the battery.
01:30:17.000You could get a really big one, too, if you wanted, probably.
01:30:35.000Dude, battery tech is super promising.
01:30:37.000Because I think there's huge leaps constantly right now.
01:30:39.000Well, because, I mean, if you can double or triple the current battery storage capability for batteries and stuff, then you really make nuclear almost a no-brainer.
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01:35:18.000The guy's innocent until he's proven guilty.
01:35:20.000Okay, so J3TL4G says, Notably that the traditional left and right descriptions which arose in the French Revolution don't apply to American politics.
01:35:45.000It makes no sense to say that Dave Rubin and Tim Pool are far right.
01:35:49.000Like, what does that really even mean?
01:35:51.000But they've been calling Joe Rogan far right, and the dude supports universal basic income, which doesn't really make sense unless you realize that right and left are references to political tribes.
01:36:02.000So when we are speaking in terms of what matters to the American people, leftist refers to coded language that circles around particular ideologies and worldviews, and right does similarly in the direction.
01:36:13.000For someone to say lived experience, we call that coded.
01:36:16.000That means it's words only recognizable or phrases typically recognizable to leftists.
01:36:22.000Hence, if you go to a regular person and ask them about their lived experience, they're going to say, what is that?
01:36:29.000But if you go to a leftist who's in the cult, they're going to be like, of course I can tell you about my lived experience.
01:36:35.000It's a specific thing referencing them.
01:36:37.000You, sir, need to watch the show, perhaps, and you would be educated.
01:36:47.000Do you think maybe, let me just say, maybe there's some trace of a legit critique in what maybe he's trying to say, which is that we're, do you think maybe he could say that we're shrugging off the concerns of most Americans about the healthcare system?
01:37:02.000I think the issue is, I refer to this as a scaling problem, the way I describe it.
01:37:09.000If you have a hundred, if Apple gives out a hundred promotional phones to a hundred people, And 1% break.
01:37:30.000So what we likely see with instances like insurance is, you're only ever going to hear about the instances where the insurance company screws people over.
01:39:47.000I don't know if I've displayed it, but for those that don't know, the 28th Amendment, which I believe must be ratified, says chickens, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep, bear, and breed chickens shall not be infringed.
01:44:12.000We swore the same oath, served in the same branch, and aren't a menace to society.
01:44:17.000Isn't it insane that they're trying to scream to you that you have to have race as your commonality instead of the human experience and your beliefs and your passions?
01:44:25.000Did you guys see that woman screaming, white people stay out of our neighborhoods or whatever?
01:44:42.000It's just, it's silly to constantly say, oh, it's white people's fault that this guy was on the subway harassing people and scaring people.
01:44:56.000Was the arresting officer really named Frye?
01:47:24.000Like, these leftists celebrating for it, and I'm like, okay, there's basic math.
01:47:30.000On average, conservatives are going to have more knowledge of what they can eat outside and how to warm themselves than someone who lives in the city, and they're likely on well water.
01:47:42.000If society collapses, the urban individuals who rely on this big water infrastructure in their city, oh, they're done.
01:47:51.000And then the people who live out in the middle of nowhere are going to be like, pump's on, I don't know, we got a backup generator and the pump's been going, water's fine.
01:47:58.000It's kind of like in Gone with the Wind when all the guys are jonesing for war and somebody reminds them, actually, you know, the North, like they have all the industry, they're going to have us beat.
01:48:07.000It's kind of like all these revolutionaries, these left-wing revolutionaries who think that they're going to fare really well in a fight to the death with conservatives.
01:48:17.000It's kind of insane when you, like these people are just LARPing.
01:48:23.000They bring fireworks to I watched a video of a guy lobbing fireworks at police, because they do it all the time, and I'm just thinking to myself, like, what is the real point?
01:50:44.000But even still, insider trading has nothing to do with the way that the healthcare or health insurance stuff operates to the average person.
01:50:54.000So if he was doing insider trading, that's bad, like...
01:51:01.000In an abstract way, but it doesn't affect people getting care.
01:51:24.000But if you're going to, in your mind, map out a pie graph of probabilities, crazy unhinged dude who read garbled nonsense on the internet is much, much larger of the pie graph than anything else.
01:53:34.000You know, I didn't want to do it because I'm like, that's going to be upsetting to a lot of people, but it is a birthday request, and I felt kind of bad.
01:53:42.000You only get one birthday a year, you know, and he super chatted in.
01:53:46.000I felt like he deserved that birthday present.
01:55:42.000So they pay $850 per share that you own.
01:55:44.000If you buy like, you know, 10,000 shares, you'll get $85,000 in dividends or whatever.
01:55:53.000So the total, what he's talking about, the total billions is how much the total dividend payout from the company is to all of their shareholders.
01:56:13.000there we go alright Amalgamaniac Gaming says Brett Cooper just had her last comment section video today and they're giving the show to her producer Reagan the God King taking it another L I don't see it that way Everybody was spreading this rumor, you know, and they're like, oh, what's gonna happen?
01:59:46.000Yeah, like, they are probably the richest people on Earth.
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