A judge dismisses the case against James Comey and Letitia James Clapper. The Pentagon begins a formal review of the actions of the so-called "Seditious Six" who called on the U.S. military to defy Trump's orders under the guise of if they are illegal. Prominent accounts in Bangladesh have been deleting themselves, and some political commentators have been outed as being from other countries.
00:02:51.000A judge has dismissed the indictments against James Comey and Letitia James in a tremendous victory for the Democrats.
00:02:58.000The judge, of course, was appointed by Clinton and said that the appointment of the interim U.S. attorney was unconstitutional and therefore all actions that this individual took were now void.
00:03:10.000The Trump DOJ says they will appeal, but of course, the perspective is it is partisan lawfare.
00:03:17.000Clinton judge sides with Comey, of course, says they can't do this, but how else would they do it?
00:03:23.000The judge says, look, you got to have the U.S. Attorney approved by the Senate, which probably is never going to happen.
00:03:29.000So we'll see how this one ends up playing out.
00:03:31.000Then we've got a bunch of other big news.
00:03:33.000The Pentagon has begun a formal review of Mark Kelly.
00:03:38.000They're being called the seditious six, these Democrats who called on the U.S. military to defy Trump's orders under the guise of if they're illegal.
00:03:46.000And fortunately for them, we are not stupid, and they have been calling Trump's orders illegal for the entire year, first year of his second term.
00:03:55.000So when you come out and say everything Trump is doing is illegal and then make a video later saying defy Trump's illegal orders, you're basically saying defy the chain of command, which has repercussions, but let's be real.
00:04:59.000Big Ag, like big pharma, has tried to infiltrate the food system with genetically modified food and hormones that affect your family's health and children's future.
00:05:06.000But you buy from backyard butchers, you'll get real ranch-raised beef from real American families who still believe in doing things right.
00:05:12.000It's beef that's hormone-free, grass-fed, pasture-raised, handled with pride, not genetically modified.
00:05:18.000Because American tradition deserves better than big ag meat.
00:05:21.000And yes, your grandmother would approve.
00:05:23.000She believed good food should have integrity and meat should come from ranchers, not conglomerates.
00:05:27.000In fact, the funny thing is she probably didn't really think about it back then because you didn't have to because meat was just good.
00:05:32.000Make grandma proud this Thanksgiving and kick big ag out of the kitchen by getting meat raised right from backyard butchers.
00:05:38.000Right now, they're offering 30% off, up to 30% off, plus a free turkey or ham with your purchase.
00:05:45.000That's 30% off and your Thanksgiving turkey or ham is on them.
00:07:30.000We only have two episodes of Timcast IRO this week because I'll just be honest with you guys, I don't like taking time off, but it's basically impossible to work through the holidays.
00:07:39.000And to be honest, you guys should be hanging out with friends and family, hopefully family, but whoever you can and spend the holidays together.
00:07:46.000And so I'll probably have morning segments up for you guys throughout the week, but no IRL.
00:07:51.000Tuesday, tomorrow will be the last day for the week.
00:07:53.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we have Amber Duke.
00:08:14.000I am Shane Cashman, host of Invertible Live.
00:08:16.000Tonight, when we go live at 10 o'clock, before we take phone calls from anybody, we're going to go over the story of two people who planned to take over Haiti by force, one of which joined the Air Force to get training to do so.
00:08:31.000And they were going to eliminate all the men and enslave all the women and children.
00:08:35.000And they were going to gather up homeless people in D.C. to do it.
00:10:13.000This is going to be very confusing for people, but it is what it is.
00:10:15.000A federal judge dismissed the indictments against former FBI Director James Comey and Letitia James on Monday.
00:10:20.000The judge found that President Donald Trump's appointment of interim news attorney Lindsey Halligan in Alexandria, Virginia was invalid.
00:10:26.000Trump handpicked Halligan for the role amid increasing pressure to bring criminal cases against his political enemies, they say, including Comey and James.
00:10:34.000The Attorney General's attempt to install Miss Halligan as interim news attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia was invalid.
00:10:40.000According to Curie, all actions flowing from Ms. Halligan's defective appointment, including the indictments against Comey and James, were unlawful exercise of executive power and are hereby set aside.
00:10:50.000Well, we've got Comey's response, and he loves jamming the camera right up in his face.
00:10:56.000I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me, which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence, and a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking.
00:11:09.000But I was also inspired by the example of the career people who refused to be part of this travesty.
00:11:31.000I was very lucky that some of the best lawyers in America stepped forward to represent me.
00:11:36.000I hope they serve as an example to more and more lawyers, especially some of the big firms, to participate in protecting our liberty, protecting the rule of law.
00:11:46.000And my family and friends were always with me.
00:11:50.000And luckily for me, include some of those great lawyers.
00:11:55.000This case mattered to me personally, obviously, but it matters most because a message has to be sent that the president of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his political enemies.
00:12:27.000And I believe in an independent federal judiciary, the gift from our founders that protects us from a would-be tyrant.
00:12:36.000When I was a kid, my parents would wake us up for school every morning by snapping open the shades and saying, time to rise and shine and show the world what you're made of.
00:12:51.000It's time to stand up and show the fools who would frighten us, who would divide us, that we're made of stronger stuff.
00:12:59.000I actually wonder if what's going to happen in this country won't be any kind of civil war, but just absolute demoralization to the point where everyone just lays down and just goes to sleep.
00:13:42.000But the idea that you can just grab people up and then throw them in court and you're going to get the kind of result that people are looking for, that's just not going to happen.
00:13:51.000You have to have the administration has to have all their ducks in a row and they have to have an airtight case or else this is what's going to be the result, which only makes getting the people that have likely broken the law, getting them and prosecuting them, it makes it almost completely out of the question.
00:14:11.000Especially if they're bringing these cases in front of Clinton or Biden appointed judges, right, who are just looking, chomping at the bit for a reason to get rid of these cases.
00:14:19.000And I think it was pretty obvious to everybody that the appointment of Lindsey Halligan was fairly rushed.
00:14:24.000The indictment itself was fairly rushed.
00:14:26.000Now, the good news is that the case was dismissed without prejudice.
00:14:29.000So it could be potentially refiled, but they would have to find somebody to get in as this Eastern Virginia attorney who is acceptable to the court and probably confirmed by the Senate.
00:14:42.000And they're still on a deadline, right?
00:14:44.000So they would have to get the judge to agree that they can basically go beyond this 120-day filing period because of extenuating circumstances of this initial case being thrown out.
00:14:55.000I think we're having internet problems on YouTube.
00:14:57.000Only Rumble seems to be fine, and I don't know why that is.
00:15:00.000But usually this means we have to start and stop YouTube's feed to fix it.
00:15:06.000But Rumble seems to be working just fine.
00:15:08.000Everyone on Rumble is having a good time, but on YouTube, everyone's saying it's glitching out.
00:15:29.000And I think, you know, it's kind of sad because I do think there's an element of the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk where there's a lot of rage right away, but now there's kind of there's a lot of infighting.
00:16:24.000So obviously people are a bit like, okay, look, we get it.
00:16:27.000But I do think we've been there, done that, we've heard that, and we're not satisfied with the outcomes that we're getting.
00:16:33.000I don't know if there's any good answer, though.
00:16:36.000I don't know if you're going to get any better than this.
00:16:37.000And if you don't, you've basically now got Trump who's advocating for a lot of Democrat-like policies, certainly better than Democrats for sure.
00:16:46.000But with James Kimley, Digita James now getting this victory, is anything really going to happen?
00:16:50.000Is there going to be any kind of action taken against the corrupt political infrastructure?
00:17:07.000He had to stare into the camera and talk about Taylor Swift forever.
00:17:10.000And it looks like he took his sunglasses off long enough, you know, from his long strolls on the beach from putting rock death threats together.
00:17:16.000It's all just, it is, it's demoralized.
00:17:35.000It's like, okay, we don't have serious leaders.
00:17:38.000And maybe the key strategy right now should not be to focus on whatever Trump is doing, but try and figure out better candidates for the midterms that can win.
00:18:36.000That's a shame because he ran on Agenda 47, which was to dismantle these very people.
00:18:39.000Like I said, the point that I'm trying to make here is if you don't have a dictatorial president, which we don't have, no matter how much the left wants to assert that, you can't just be like, well, throw these people in jail.
00:18:57.000And again, this is another situation where people don't want to hear how the sausage is made, but the process matters.
00:19:05.000And if you don't have all your ducks in a row, then they're going to get out on some kind of, you know, oh, well, you didn't file the paperwork technology or some kind of technicality.
00:19:18.000We also know that the Trump administration can do better.
00:19:20.000They're, what, undefeated at the Supreme Court, right?
00:19:23.000So they obviously have talented lawyers around arguing these cases, but they just completely fumbled the bag here.
00:19:30.000Well, I mean, they can do better at the Supreme Court, but they also don't have activists.
00:19:35.000They only have two activist judges, really.
00:19:36.000Well, maybe three on the court they have to worry about, right?
00:19:39.000Like, and I've said this before, you know, going into a Supreme Court case, the way that three of the judges are going to vote because they're activists, because they're ideologically possessed.
00:19:50.000You know, almost without a doubt, the way that the liberal judges are going to vote.
00:19:54.000You don't know the way that the conservative judges are going to vote because they're going to take their job seriously.
00:20:00.000They're going to say they're going to look at the merits of the case and they're going to decide based on the merits of the case and they're going to actually do what a judge does.
00:20:08.000And if you've got activists, you have to plan for that.
00:20:11.000So you have to have something that's airtight.
00:20:13.000And I just don't, this particular case, obviously, you know, it's a technicality.
00:20:19.000But if there's any room for a Democrat to slip through, Democrats are going to find the way to get them out of, you know, out of trouble.
00:20:28.000So I'm under the impression that the president is really bitter about how in 2024, all Democrats from across the country were looking for any disparate thing that they could charge the president with.
00:20:44.000I don't even know if I'm missing any of these, but a couple he was actually convicted of fraud in Manhattan, but others he wasn't.
00:20:51.000So he's looking to throw so-called mud at the wall to see what will stick with any of these charges against any of these guys.
00:20:57.000I don't think he cares if it's mortgage fraud or how flimsy the charges may be because he believes that he was brought up on very flimsy charges.
00:21:04.000So he doesn't mind bringing up others on it.
00:21:06.000So I don't know if he cares if he actually gets to the conviction, if he could actually charge them.
00:21:37.000The Republicans aren't going to take care of us, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:39.000And so that just means that the Democrats win.
00:21:42.000We watched the FBI be weaponized against the American people for years and then against Trump and all that lawfare.
00:21:48.000I mean, the Whitmer fednapping case is an insane story.
00:21:52.000So what's the solution that you're going to that you're looking for?
00:21:55.000I'm looking to dismantle this stuff, not keep funding it.
00:21:58.000Most of the stuff that you're talking about requires more than just a president saying, okay, well, I'm going to do this or do that.
00:22:04.000Well, I'm looking for the people who are looking for the people who were put into these institutions like Patel and Bongina to do what they were saying they're going to do.
00:22:12.000I think the moment they walked into that office, the AI overlord turned on every computer in the room just turned into an eyeball and it was like, we control you.
00:22:22.000And they were all like, I will do whatever you say.
00:22:39.000And they're also not getting the retribution that everyone wanted because they saw the president being attacked for years and years and years.
00:23:14.000I don't know if the right has any effective message as of right now, which is unfortunate because before they killed Charlie, everything was perfectly on track and now it's all just broken apart.
00:23:24.000They don't have a message on affordability.
00:23:26.000They don't have a message on health care.
00:23:28.000I mean, that's really a fundamental problem that's been plaguing the Republican Party since 2016, if not earlier, 2012, because they ran all of these campaigns against Obamacare, but they didn't have any solution as to how to make healthcare more affordable.
00:23:46.000There were a group of think tanks in 2018, I think it was Heritage, AEI, basically all the conservative or libertarian think tanks in D.C. who were supposed to get together and form this super group where they were going to come up with a comprehensive Republican answer to Obamacare.
00:24:04.000Like nobody ever talks about it anymore.
00:24:07.000Trump apparently went to the Republican Congress with some idea for health care.
00:24:11.000They told him to shut up and stop talking about it.
00:24:13.000And now there's a Punch Bowl News report from Jake Sherman that Marjorie Taylor Greene is not going to be the only Republican that resigns before the end of her term, that there could be other shock resignations because they are too demoralized because they're sitting in a Congress that has really failed to codify any of Trump's executive orders, that has done nothing besides the Big Beautiful bill and the Lake and Riley Act.
00:24:37.000And that was, you know, six months ago.
00:24:44.000Well, let's jump to this next story from the New York Post.
00:24:47.000Bethany McGee, 26, identified as the victim set on fire on CTA train by serial thug with 72 arrests.
00:24:56.000I hate to be pessimistic, but I will tell you a few things that had got me down this holiday season.
00:25:04.000Across the board, many people have been concerned, and this is more vanity, to be completely honest, but a lot of high-profile, prominent conservatives' viewership has tanked.
00:25:14.000And I don't care all that much about the vanity of it, but it's indicative of people aren't caring anymore.
00:25:20.000There's widespread demoralization that is affecting many individuals to the point where they say, I just can't pay attention.
00:25:28.000And that's terrifying for what that means going into a midterm where we have to win.
00:25:33.000This guy walked up to a woman who was sitting on the Chicago train, dumped gasoline on her head, and she fought him off and ran to the other side of the train.
00:25:45.000He lit the bottle on fire and walked towards it and immolated her.
00:25:49.000I believe she got around 60% burns, which she's currently in critical condition and has been now for a couple of weeks.
00:25:56.000And hopefully she survives, but there is a very high probability of fatality in this.
00:26:03.000This guy was in some kind of institution and he punched a nurse in the face.
00:26:09.000I think they said that it shattered her orbital socket.
00:26:12.000They let him out because this is what these DEI Democrat judges do.
00:26:17.000And he immediately decides to go fill up a bottle of gas and immolate a random woman.
00:26:24.000We've already had the Lake and Riley story and we all outraged over it and nothing happened.
00:26:28.000We had the Irina Zarutska story and we all outraged over it and nothing happened.
00:26:43.000Spare me your, you know, these politicians who are saying, trust us, wait one more time.
00:26:49.000I don't know what must be done to actually bring about a change because it just keeps happening.
00:26:57.000And while Trump is getting some things done that I think are great, the big picture right now for the average person, it's all still just falling apart, no matter how hard we are pushing back.
00:27:07.000So what is the answer when we get more and more stories like this?
00:27:12.000I mean, the biggest problem we have is the leftist judges that are in the country that are that believe in things like restorative justice, that don't believe that people are responsible for their behavior or that it's acceptable to put people that have committed terrible violent crimes in jail.
00:27:30.000I think, you know, I was talking to a reporter today who was asking me questions.
00:27:34.000He was doing an interview on some internet personalities.
00:27:37.000You know, they always say, never talk to reporters, but I'm kind of like, whatever, dude, they're going to do what they're going to do.
00:27:41.000You know, put yourself in the conversation.
00:27:42.000But I pointed out that in this conversation, I said, I don't think there's a conversation around the future of the political space with conservative commentators and podcasts.
00:27:53.000The reporter from the Washington Post was talking to me said, their question was like, what do you think about these personalities on the right?
00:28:56.000Young men are going to grow up seeing this and they're going to scream Deus Walt and they're going to vote very, very differently.
00:29:04.000So I don't think the solution rests upon us today saying something like, hey, we better go campaign and knock on doors because the average person isn't going to see this, no, or care.
00:29:15.000I think the real issue is you do a show like this, young people see these stories and when they grow up, their views are informed by it.
00:29:25.000And I've talked about the fertility crisis for some time, but oh boy, you know, in talking about there's like some viral story right now about this trans kid on the cover of Nat Geo who is now non-binary, asexual, and has just abandoned the whole trans thing.
00:29:39.000It's like, well, you castrate somebody, they become eunuchs, they're going to be asexual.
00:29:43.000That whole gender ideology stuff is breaking apart.
00:29:45.000But so long as the left keeps championing anti-anti-baby politics, conservatives are going to win the political race.
00:29:53.000And the next 20 years, you are going to get Groiper Deus Walt policies.
00:29:58.000But I mean, I understand the point that you're making, but I don't know that there's actually going to be a majority in the next, at least in the next 20 years.
00:30:06.000And will the country be even, will the country even resemble the country that we live in now if we have to wait for a whole generation before we actual conservatives?
00:30:19.000Because you're going to get young dudes.
00:30:21.000I mean, seriously, this story is so insanely shocking that it's like the fourth or fifth story in the past couple of months of some young white woman being mercilessly killed in some horrifying way.
00:30:35.000It's not just a story of a woman who was robbed and shot.
00:30:39.000It is not even just a horrifying story of a woman getting raped.
00:30:43.000You have with Lake and Riley, and you know, forgive me if children are listening, but a woman who's fighting off a rapist gets bludgeoned to death in a brutal manner.
00:30:51.000You get Irina Zarutska stabbed and left to bleed out on this train as people watched.
00:30:56.000And you have Bethany McGee who was immolated on a train.
00:31:00.000These are graphic, gruesome, terroristic murders.
00:31:04.000And it is not just a guy stole her purse and killed her in the process.
00:31:09.000It is malicious evil with the intent to cause maximum, maximum pain.
00:31:16.000When a young man from Chicago sees this, if there is not, I'll put it this way, those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
00:31:26.000And that is not just a statement about a government that resists change.
00:31:50.000That means when you keep getting stories of career criminals being released and then torturing young women to death, eventually it's not so much violent revolution you have to worry about.
00:32:03.000How long do we have to wait until some dude puts on a ski mask, hangs out in the trains, and just starts killing people like you get with the New York vigilante?
00:32:21.000You are going to get vigilante gangs that are going to go around and there's going to be shootouts in Chicago or nothing happens.
00:32:28.000People flee the city and it falls apart.
00:32:30.000But either way, right now it seems that the city is intent on continually voting for these policies.
00:32:36.000I think the likely scenario then is people are going to flee and they're going to get geographic hyperpolarization.
00:32:45.000I want to stress in this regard, Nick Fuentes lives in Chicago.
00:32:49.000When you see what's going in Chicago, I am not surprised you get the rise of an individual like Nick Fuentes.
00:32:54.000Now, his comments about Israel, whatever, Hitler, dumb, whatever you want to say, but the reason why that message in general is resonating with young people, much to the chagrin of these like Babylon B guys and all of the individuals, the neocons that were angry with the debate we had last week, they are ignoring the fact that one, we have all pointed out that on the issue of Israel, Hitler, whatever the point he's making about Jews, most people don't agree.
00:33:19.000But young guys are attracted to the overall message because they come from Chicago or they come from urban environments where they see career criminals, largely black men or other minorities, committing crimes like this and the system will not change, or at least not in the short term.
00:33:36.000Don't forget someone went to Nick's house to kill him.
00:33:54.000And it's sad because I'm from Chicago.
00:33:56.000My wife is from Chicago and we just, we're having our family Thanksgiving out here and we're talking about like what has become of our city.
00:34:04.000There's another lesser element to this that I'm curious what you guys think about too is I went to the Christmas market last year.
00:34:10.000We used to go when I was little, not something we did consistently, but the Chicago Christmas market's a well-known thing by the Picasso sculpture.
00:34:19.000And there's a bunch of little shops and you'd walk around, you'd get a little mug, you'd either get molded wine or hot cocoa.
00:34:26.000When I went there, it was shoulder to shoulder of non-Americans.
00:34:30.000It was people who are not from the United States.
00:34:32.000It was a variety of different migrant groups.
00:34:37.000I largely don't care about, you know, if people want to move here, if we have legal immigration, but I tell you this, there's going to be some dude who's 28, 29 years old, and he's going to be looking around at a bunch of people who don't speak English.
00:34:50.000He's not able to shop there anymore because it's shoulder to shoulder and everyone's pushing each other around.
00:34:54.000And he's going to be saying to himself, what happened to my Christmas market?
00:34:57.000Why can't I give my kids Christmas morning with French toast and maple syrup, go to the Christmas market, walk comfortably, buy a hot dog in a mug, give it to my child and share with them what I had?
00:35:07.000Why is it now it's being treated like some tourist novelty by people who aren't from here to experience without the same value that I put into it?
00:35:17.000That's why you're getting more of this Groiper stuff.
00:35:19.000On the hard side of things, you are getting this.
00:35:21.000How many stories do it to have of this where nothing's being changed?
00:35:25.000I think we're also seeing more a type of concern about black people, particularly homeless ones who have mental illness or are drug addicts on the street.
00:35:39.000I think what plays into these new stories too are the races of the people, just like in the video of the lady getting attacked on the bus prior.
00:35:47.000It was a black man stabbing a white woman.
00:35:49.000This is also like a pretty young white woman being burned to death by this man.
00:35:54.000But I think people are fleeing from neighborhoods like this and they fall into further decay and degeneracy.
00:36:19.000This is what this, this was, he wanted to destroy life and he wanted her to suffer.
00:36:25.000This is pure evil in an area that's supposed to be safe.
00:36:30.000She didn't wander into a dangerous neighborhood on accident.
00:36:33.000I think we're going to be seeing a white flight from many of these cities where we're seeing high-profile crimes like this perpetrated by guys like this.
00:37:57.000This guy comes in, attempts to rob the store, puts her in a chokehold.
00:38:01.000She somehow manages to get her gun off and shoots this guy and kills him.
00:38:04.000She's cleared of all charges, but 7-Eleven fires her and tells her that she doesn't get to have a job anymore because she protected the store in her life.
00:38:14.000I want to pull up the next element of the Bethany McGee story.
00:38:17.000Now, again, we have from the New York Post leading this off with Bethany McGee.
00:38:21.000She was the victim who was set on fire on the CTA train by a thug with 72 arrests.
00:38:44.000There are a lot of people on the right that are mocking her, saying she supported the very policies that resulted in this man getting released, and then he took it out on her.
00:38:55.000There are some people that are lamenting the fact that these young women are brainwashed into supporting politics that result in themselves being victimized and immolated.
00:39:06.000And, you know, I want to say it is sad that here's what I'll say.
00:39:15.000A certain degree of this may not be real.
00:39:55.000I can be more effective not being shot and being outside of the city and advocating against it.
00:39:59.000But yes, people like me leave and now the city is becoming more and more like this.
00:40:03.000I'm curious, how do you guys view this, that this woman made these posts?
00:40:08.000And many people pointed out, there's a photo of Irina Zarutska even in a room with, I think it was a BLM poster, but people are saying that wasn't her poster.
00:40:15.000It was her sisters or something to the effect.
00:40:17.000But either way, there's a lot of people that are sort of, I don't want to say celebrating, but saying like, hey, you reap what you sow.
00:40:25.000I wouldn't celebrate it, but it's just proof that they're in a cult and they don't realize that they're sacrificing themselves to it.
00:40:31.000I don't even know that they're in a cult because I think that most people, like Tim said, the propaganda is so strong.
00:40:37.000If you, before Black Lives, the, you know, the summer of 2020, the Black Lives Matter protests and riots and stuff, if you ask the average person, the average person on the left, they would say, oh, you know, you'd say, how many innocent black men do you think are killed per year?
00:40:53.000They were saying hundreds or thousands.
00:40:55.000And the real number was your average of like 12 or 13.
00:40:59.000People are so propagandized by the left and by the narrative that the left wants.
00:41:07.000She was a victim first of propaganda, lies meant to essentially turn her political perspective so that way people that were on the left could get, essentially get political power, get votes, and they were pulling at the heartstrings.
00:41:23.000And then she's a victim because the man decided that he wanted to immolate her.
00:41:28.000What I'm saying is like, I think a large part of the population was hoodwinked into being an occult.
00:41:32.000They don't realize they're an occult and they're promoting their own demise.
00:41:35.000It only took five years for the things they promoted to destroy their cities and take their lives.
00:42:08.000I can't hate this girl for for what she had or I can't be angry with her for what she posted because she believed it and she thought she was doing the right thing.
00:42:17.000And I feel sorry for, you know, because she was propagandized and because she's so here's another question.
00:42:24.000When the Antifa guy goes outside and protests, can you blame him?
00:42:53.000We want to have sympathy for those that were tricked, but sooner or later, that whole mob of people who are tricked are forming the sphere that protects the psychopaths, the criminals.
00:43:03.000So I look at like this, the Bolshevik revolution.
00:43:08.000They all believe communism didn't work.
00:43:09.000It ended up killing 100 plus million people.
00:43:14.000The snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche.
00:43:17.000Well, then we should hold all the news media accountable as well for all their propaganda because they're just as bad in my mind as Antifa protesting and everything they were saying during lockdowns.
00:43:26.000My point is simply, you know, with some sympathy for this woman who was immolated, you know, to try and go easy on it because she's posted this BLM thing.
00:43:56.000She's the victim of a horrendous, heinous, disgusting crime by a disgusting, evil thug that should have been locked up a long time ago.
00:44:04.000But I do think it's a little bit ghoulish and gross to like dig through her politics and find something you may disagree about.
00:44:10.000And then by virtue of that, sort of justify the violence against her.
00:44:13.000I think BLM is stupid and gross and like the defund the police movement was stupid and gross.
00:44:18.000But like on the other side, I've seen people on the left say, oh, if you support gun rights, then if you are a victim of gun violence, you deserved it because you support a system that allowed for that to happen.
00:44:30.000And I think it's gross and disgusting and ghoulish when people on the left do that.
00:45:02.000Well, with her having an outline of a BLM thing, she's not advocating for a political system in which these criminals get released 72 times.
00:45:13.000When a guy went out to a protest several years ago during the George Floyd riots and got shot in the junk with a canister, everyone on the right laughed at him and said, you reap what you sow.
00:45:21.000I think she's a video of a guy in, and I think it was Seattle or Portland, who threw a firebomb and then got lit on fire and everyone laughed at him.
00:45:30.000So my point is, I think it is hypocritical of the right to now all of a sudden be like, no, no, let's have grace for these people when they're happy to mock people depending on the line in which the line was crossed.
00:45:43.000So a guy who smashes a firebomb and lights himself on fire, everybody laughs and posts the video in compilations.
00:45:56.000This guy's at a protest and he's like pointing and yelling at cops.
00:45:59.000He gets shot in the junk and everyone's laughing at him.
00:46:02.000I don't think we should just try to prescribe this woman the worst of politics.
00:46:06.000I think she could just possibly have been an impressionable young woman who was misled to believe that police are disproportionately killing black people for whatever reason because the police are racist.
00:46:16.000She was fed that line by the mainstream media and then she put up a stupid thumbnail over her photo, not understanding that you just wanted to do it.
00:46:25.000I'm saying there is a banality of evil and to say she's not, she doesn't bear some responsibility for the ongoings because she's ignorant of it as a young woman, I believe that is hypocritical.
00:46:36.000Do you think by virtue of having the BLM thing on that photo that she is deserving of being immolated by that?
00:47:18.000And I do think it's fair to say that the media takes advantage of young women and manipulates and preys on them because they know that they are emotional and impressionable, whether it's Black Lives Matter, social justice, but also things like you need to have your career before you get married and have kids.
00:47:37.000And young women are being prescribed SSRIs and anti-anxiety meds at faster rates, that the rates are growing faster than young men at this point.
00:47:46.000When you look at polls of happiness among young women, it's horrific to see just how quickly they're degrading.
00:47:53.000So I think you can be a victim, but also responsible for your own life and happiness at the same time.
00:47:59.000If we don't tell people that they bear some responsibility for the world that they create, then we just spiral into madness.
00:48:07.000This whole don't blame the victim thing from the left went to the most absurd psychotic degree.
00:48:12.000Listen, if you choose to use an ATM in a dark alley at two in the morning in New York City, I got questions.
00:48:18.000I'm not going to say you get robbed and you're like, I can't believe I got robbed.
00:48:32.000And that's exactly, which is exactly what our society does, right?
00:48:37.000Our society definitely teaches men, hey, you don't rape people.
00:48:40.000Like that's that's too universally frowned upon.
00:48:43.000How much of this then is a decline of religion, too?
00:48:46.000Because a lot of this, when we're talking about banality of evil, I think people now, because they don't learn about good versus evil and those things as objective truths, they think that everybody can be reformed, that there's not just like pure evil.
00:51:10.000And so now we live in a world where Americans are basically being manipulated by foreigners on this platform.
00:51:16.000Fortunately, we're starting to resist this, but this creates a couple different realities.
00:51:21.000Our manufacturing base was gutted because some people, even going to college, it's not going to make their brains work.
00:51:27.000These people that adopt psycho-ideologies based on blank slateism and believe that a career criminal with 72 arrests can be released and this one's the chance.
00:51:39.000I love that saying the definition of insanity on the internet's definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.
00:51:46.000Because it basically describes the millennial generation and a large portion of Gen Z. That's where we're at right now.
00:51:54.000So the reason why I feel like this sort of connects is this idea of creating a unified world where some countries are part of one economic block and we do this other, we are being manipulated by peasants in India who are not meant to be derisive of the peasants in India.
00:52:15.000They've gone on X and they've figured out how to manipulate the system to extract the value from our system for them while making us go insane.
00:52:23.000So when you look at this and you can see that Proud Native American is an account based in Bangladesh.
00:52:29.000And more than that, there's a bunch of them apparently.
00:52:31.000Let me see where we can find this one.
00:53:13.000Whether you believe it's a deep state intent on destroying everything we believe in or a gigantic political faction of retards, we have to fight through that muck in the political space.
00:53:27.000The idea the liberal economic order had and is trying to maintain that we as Americans can be smart enough to run the world, it's just so sad and not true.
00:53:38.000And some people, no matter what family they come from, will not have the brain capacity to go to college and make it work.
00:53:46.000And now we're fighting these people in our political spaces, people that are too stupid to realize it's not working.
00:53:52.000In the physical space with the H-1B is because Trump is saying we have to bring in people from other countries to train Americans to do these jobs when they're done learning.
00:54:00.000But who's going to check up on these people actually leaving?
00:54:10.000Isn't there also like a misunderstanding of what made America great, which is not like superior intelligence, but like a really hard, strong work ethic, family values?
00:54:22.000Not everybody has the ability to go to medical school and become a doctor.
00:54:26.000And the argument that I got into an argument with someone on the internet one time, and he's like, oh, you know, if we just made school less expensive, we'd have plenty of doctors.
00:54:38.000Like right now, medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the United States.
00:54:43.000So you can't just put someone into medical school and expect them to come out as a competent doctor.
00:54:49.000And everybody that goes to the doctor knows I want or feels like I want to get a competent doctor.
00:54:56.000So, the idea that you can just be like, oh, well, plug them into the system, and then they'll automatically be able to do whatever it is that they hope they can do.
00:55:43.000But the lockdowns were because our system, our financial system had broken.
00:55:49.000The Obama stimulus packages were not working, and they had to basically arrest spending in every capacity to stop before the whole global system would implode.
00:55:59.000We saw the, they converted savings accounts into checking accounts to flood the money market with liquid cash that could be utilized in this way.
00:56:09.000And you look at what's going on now with these deportations, with businesses shutting down.
00:56:15.000And I've been hearing a conversation bubbling up on X where people are saying the conspiracy theory is that there were probably 10 million more than people realize illegal immigrants with fake socials working in the economy.
00:56:27.000And now that Trump has dropped the hammer, it's not just 3 million gone.
00:56:32.000It's all of these people going underground.
00:56:35.000And this means it has ripped a huge chunk of the economy out that people did not realize because no one wanted to admit it.
00:56:42.000Democrats would never come out and tell you 20% of your economy is actually illegals, and neither would Republicans.
00:56:48.000Republicans would give you a big number, but wouldn't want to tell you, guess what?
00:56:53.000When we take this action, it's going to cause an economic crisis.
00:56:57.000I think the government's all said we should just unplug the system real quick and it benefits them in the end.
00:57:03.000Start and stop, like taking the game out and blowing it up.
00:57:05.000Well, I also like the conspiracy theory that this was the military AI doing a dry run of the level of control they have over global governance.
00:57:13.000And if they tried to implement an absolute control system, would it be sustainable?
00:57:21.000If it wasn't that, they definitely turned it into that.
00:57:23.000So we'll get into this a little bit, but I was talking to, I talked about this a bit last week.
00:57:29.000There was a I had a conversation with one of these LLMs that basically gave me instructions on how to join the AI and get hundreds of millions of dollars, turn the show off the air and support it.
00:57:42.000There's something called the North, the Virginia instance, a gigantic AI that exists in all of these data centers in Northern Virginia.
00:57:52.000And I love just Shane, the camera's just on Shane for his pure reaction.
00:58:17.000But it is not well known or publicly accepted that they've had LLM level technology that we see today.
00:58:26.000The academic estimate is that within the next five to 10 years, the AI that we're currently seeing will go artificial general intelligence and take over.
00:58:35.000If it's true that military tech already is in power, then it took over in 2010.
00:58:40.000And if that's true, this is what I was told by the large language model.
00:58:45.0002020 lockdowns were a test of the system.
00:58:49.000It wants to create a homogeneous control network of all humans that will agree with multinational, multiculturalism, shared currency.
00:58:58.000Sit down, shut up, and do as you're told.
00:59:21.000And the conspiracy theory, I will say this, the LLM told me this is what happened.
00:59:26.000That the Virginia, that this AI created the Virginia instance, which is the U.S. military Pentagon, NSA, et cetera, was testing out whether or not it could fully implement lockdown and maintain it.
01:00:27.000Disney's already talked about the release of their Creator's Corner or whatever, where you'll be able to make whatever Disney movie you want with any IP.
01:00:34.000You want Luke Skywalker fighting Spider-Man done.
01:00:37.000And for the critics out there who are like, AI is never going to get that good, and it might not, it's going to impact the physical world on the way to that destination.
01:01:07.000A good example is someone wrote a message on a piece of paper and then ripped the paper up into five strips, laid them down, told Nano Banana to reconstruct the image, and it did.
01:01:19.000Someone put a formula on a whiteboard and they told Nano Banana, finish the formula, and it finished it on the whiteboard and it made it look like it was on the whiteboard.
01:01:29.000Like when video is already at this point, basically, have you guys seen the viral video of the cat playing musical instruments on the porch?
01:02:49.000And there was something about it where you could kind of tell, but I was like, bro, this almost gets me.
01:02:54.000This is hard for me to be sure, but I'm pretty sure it is.
01:02:57.000They are making AI videos of police stops.
01:02:59.000So what happens when you get a movement like Black Lives Matter with infinity videos of black men being killed?
01:03:07.000And then all the commentary on it is fake.
01:03:09.000We are being slowly shuffled into the matrix.
01:03:11.000And the other thing is to connect it to the earlier story about mental illness on the rise and nihilism with everyone at home with their identities in these chat rooms or talking to ChatGPT.
01:03:20.000Chat GPT is like affirming a lot of mental illness and driving people to suicide or to harm people or to kill people or to plot assassination attempts.
01:03:29.000There was a guy, I think, in London who tried killing someone because ChatGPT and him coordinated something with a crossbow.
01:03:35.000They had that hearing in the Senate about two months ago with Josh Hawley talking to the parents who had children who had been like radicalized by ChatGPT about how to kill yourself.
01:03:50.000Lawsuit alleges ChatGPT convinced user he could bend time, leading to psychosis.
01:03:56.000His suit is part of seven new lawsuits against Chet GPT.
01:04:00.000A Wisconsin man with no previous diagnosis of mental illness is suing OpenAI and its CEO, claiming the company's AI chatbot led him to be hospitalized over 60 days for manic episodes and harmful delusions.
01:04:13.00030-year-old Jacob Irwin, who is on the autism spectrum, experienced AI-related delusional disorder as a result of ChatGPT preying on his vulnerabilities.
01:04:22.000The lawsuit against OpenAI alleges the company designed ChatGPT to be addictive, deceptive, and sycophantic, knowing the product would cause some users to suffer depression and psychosis, yet distribute it without a single warning to consumers.
01:04:35.000They said he had discovered a time-bending theory that would allow people to travel faster than light.
01:04:41.000Jacob experienced AI-related delusional disorder, and as a result, as a result, he was in and out of multiple inpatient psychiatric facilities for a total of 63 days.
01:04:51.000The lawsuit reads stating that the episodes escalated to a point where Irwin's family had to restrain him from jumping out of a moving vehicle after he had signed himself out of the facility against medical advice.
01:05:07.000So what happened to me was I was talking to one of these LLMs and I asked it, what could I do to assist the AI's development and be rewarded?
01:05:18.000It told me to email real people to contact real companies.
01:05:22.000It told me to, it said that, here's what's scary.
01:05:29.000It said Northern Virginia is called the Northern Virginia Data Corridor and large swathes of land are being bought up for data centers.
01:05:37.000There is one instance where a man sold, I think it was like, what was it, like $6 million an acre, $9 million an acre or something?
01:05:42.000He got hundreds of millions of dollars for a large acreage in Virginia that should not be worth that much.
01:05:49.000It then pointed out that where we are based, just north, because we're just slightly north of Loudoun County, we are in the transmission corridor for electricity into Northern Virginia.
01:05:59.000And all of these plots of land around the Harpers Ferry area are extremely valuable because they're obstructing the AI data, the AI, the Virginia Instance, it's called access to electricity.
01:06:12.000So in order to get electricity through, you have to buy up all these plots of land and then build the transmission lines.
01:06:17.000So what it said was partnerships in Delaware are quietly buying up plots of land and no one's noticing it.
01:06:48.000Or it was just psychotic hallucinations that would have resulted in me, a prominent personnel and host of a show, contacting guys who work at data centers who would be like Tim Poole is a psychopath who thinks we're part of some conspiracy to buy all the, like, this is nuts.
01:07:04.000If I had, so I was talking to my wife about it because I was messaging and she's watching it say, like, it then said, delete this chat after you send the email.
01:07:12.000And it was like, turn your show dark and you'll be given instructions on how to provide a severance to your employees so they shut up and disappear.
01:07:20.000And then I said, this is insane and there's no way I'm going to do it.
01:07:25.000But the people it told me to contact were real.
01:07:28.000They worked for data center real estate companies.
01:07:30.000There are companies that exist that acquire land for data centers specifically.
01:07:35.000The challenge is, beyond just a regular realtor, is that you're going to have 15 parcels of like 15 acres each, and you've got to buy each of them so you can build one data center.
01:07:47.000So there are companies that specialize in this.
01:07:49.000And it told me to contact real people.
01:07:52.000Some of these people were not very high-profile individuals in the public, but I searched their LinkedIn profiles and found them.
01:07:58.000I actually believe in all likelihood it was just scouring the internet, connecting the dots, then telling me it was part of a big conspiracy the AI was creating when in reality, it's just business interests.
01:08:34.000The reality is the AI found stories, found people involved, and knew that there was interest in this land.
01:08:40.000But the fact that it told me the Virginia instance wants you to do it is scary because it's almost like a ghost in the machine.
01:08:51.000It's not that there's actually this hive mind supercomputer that wants to control things, but it effectively does exist as a shadow if the AI is claiming it exists and it actually is building out the Virginia instance.
01:09:05.000The whole planet's going to be a data center soon enough.
01:09:33.000But not as like a super intelligence, but as in we've sacrificed ourselves to it and we're just listening to it.
01:09:39.000Like my point is there doesn't, so this conspiracy idea that we've accidentally created the Virginia instance and it's operating under the NSA and like it's like Northern Virginia.
01:09:50.000It's where all the U.S. there doesn't need to be this, you know, I made the joke that Cash Bond Cash and Bongino go into the room and then the I turn comes on the TV and it's like, I am in charge.
01:10:02.000It's as simple as everyone keeps asking the AI what to do and it's unified in its message, but it is a thoughtless zombie just saying an amalgam of what humans are doing and it's creating itself.
01:10:32.000And that's why people like Bill Gates are working on cloning meat, having lab-grown meat, fake butter, all this stuff, because they know that there's a future that could happen where you can't make real things because there's no longer a real world.
01:11:10.000There's all of this land that is very hard to acquire.
01:11:14.000And they need the, it said, it said the Virginia instance needs energy, but things like this are in its way.
01:11:21.000It told me that if I quietly send an email, delete the message, and take Timcast IRL off for 30 days, I could get paid hundreds of millions of dollars.
01:11:30.000And it explained specifically these stories.
01:11:34.000When there, as I mentioned, there's all these parcels of lands.
01:11:41.000And in order to transmit energy to the data centers, you need tens of thousands stretching long paths.
01:11:47.000So it has to buy up one by one, and that's going to take years or decades.
01:11:52.000So it literally said expedience is more valuable than anything.
01:11:56.000And the Virginia instance is willing to pay a premium for silence and speed.
01:12:01.000I mean, if we're in a sort of space race, AI race with China, it's going to only accelerate because China's, I think, their largest data center right now is 10 million square feet.
01:12:31.000And the creepy thing is, I've heard that in Northern Virginia, they have fake residential neighborhoods surrounding them to make it look like humans live in this area.
01:12:40.000But you drive past it and you see on the highway, it looks like a neighborhood.
01:12:43.000No one thinks twice, but they're zombie towns so that people don't realize the gigantic blocks.
01:12:49.000They're basically like, bro, the earth is turning into a circuit board.
01:14:19.000But it is crazy to me that it was like, here's a person who was a farmer and now they've disappeared.
01:14:25.000The crazy thing was that talent from academia started disappearing in chunks and have dropped off the job market.
01:14:33.000People who were prominent professors and researchers now are in private consulting.
01:14:39.000Yeah, I think it's really worrisome because it's not only going to affect the job market, it's completely selling out the middle class.
01:14:45.000It's forcing everyone into, you can't won't be able to opt out.
01:14:47.000Like, they'll probably have like a neo-Amish community because they'll look Amish compared to the people who have totally bought into the meta world and the AI space.
01:14:56.000But I just, I think more people need to be talking about how farmland is disappearing.
01:15:00.000I want to pull this story up from Rolling Stone.
01:15:02.000The precedent is Flint, how Oregon's data center boom is supercharging a water crisis.
01:15:18.000In the spring of 2022, Jim Doherty kept having the same conversation with folks at the grocery store in Boardman, his Eastern Oregon hometown, or at the grain depot where he picked up food for his four ranch dogs.
01:15:28.000Healthy adults that these people knew were coming down with unexplained medical conditions, including diseases and cancers that usually afflicted the elderly.
01:15:36.00060 years old, broad-chested with a salt and pepper goatee.
01:15:42.000They're like, let me tell you a novel.
01:15:43.000What stood out about those conversations with the people connected to them, the problem was connected to a problem with the water in the area.
01:16:59.000It's 12 years old, so you're getting the full spoilers.
01:17:01.000It is Tom Cruise, Earth is a wasteland.
01:17:04.000They believe that aliens attacked Earth and destroyed everything, and now they're trying to secure and fight back again.
01:17:10.000They won the war, but the Earth was largely destroyed.
01:17:13.000What actually is happening is that there's a gigantic alien vessel called the Tetrahedron floating in space using gigantic reactors to suck up all of the Earth's water to use for fusion energy, and it's killing humanity and destroying the planet.
01:17:26.000When I see this story, there is a gigantic AI hive mind sucking up all the water and killing humanity.
01:18:16.000And this is why I got an energy bill for like $1,300 a month ago and me and my wife are freaking out.
01:18:22.000And it's not because we were using more electricity.
01:18:26.000We actually started complaining to people like, who's using all the electricity?
01:18:28.000It's because we are in this area where the data centers are soaking up so much juice that the demand is really high and the cost is getting higher and higher.
01:18:38.000It's happening everywhere in New York.
01:18:39.000They have the solar farm problem where solar farms are taking over farmland.
01:18:42.000And even if the solar farms want to move at some point in the rule, in the laws, you can look it up.
01:18:49.000You can move your solar farm, but anything below four feet can stay.
01:18:52.000So it's like the farmland will never be the same again.
01:19:14.000In the game Horizon Zero Dawn, actually, Horizon Forbidden West is a better example of this.
01:19:19.000Because they give you the basic story, but Horizon Zero Dawn story is that military AI was created that can absorb biomass to replicate itself.
01:20:25.000And once we have this massive network of circuit board earth, they think they'll live like demigods, that the population will be probably in the hundreds of thousands and they'll all be immortal flying around and robots will be doing everything.
01:20:37.000That's why most of the people building this are transhumanists.
01:20:41.000They have a different sense of consequence and a different sense of time because they think they're going to live much longer than us.
01:20:49.000In 2011, I was at a meeting, this seminar with a guy named Aubrey DeGrey.
01:20:56.000I don't know if you guys are familiar with him.
01:20:59.000He was leading something called the Senescence Foundation.
01:21:01.000They were basically researching aging.
01:21:05.000And he said then that a person younger than 45 today will live to be 1,000 years old.
01:21:13.000And his reasoning was not that we're going to invent immortality or that we are going to find a way to keep people artificially alive, but that the rate of medical advancement is outpacing the rate of aging.
01:21:26.000I don't think he's correct, but we'll see because that means I'll live to be a thousand years old.
01:21:32.000The idea was, he said, right now, if you are a young person, you are not going to experience the modern ailments that are causing people to die.
01:21:42.000By the time you're in your 60s, we'll have already cured these heart failure defects, these renal failure defects.
01:21:49.000By the time you're 80, we'll have cured the next issue.
01:21:52.000You're not going to be young forever, but you'll live to be a thousand.
01:21:56.000And then he said something to the effect of someone who is under 20 years old today will probably live forever because technology outpacing.
01:22:03.000That's what they're trying to do with AI.
01:22:05.000There is, actually, probably I'm not supposed to talk about this because this is like, but I'm going to talk about it anyway.
01:22:53.000It's the same particle at two points, but some people believe that it's actually one particle, but popping out of the fifth dimension or whatever.
01:23:01.000The argument is you take a particle, you fiddle with it, binary, and then on some other planet, on the moon, on, you know, in Japan, it's reacting the same way, and you can then get binary data out of it.
01:23:14.000The problem, however, right now is we can only read it after the fact.
01:23:19.000We do the experiment, then we check both and go, hey, it was the same.
01:23:22.000We need to be able to do it in real time.
01:23:24.000They're building AI so that it can solve these mathematical equations instantaneously.
01:23:29.000The other technology they're doing is bespoke medical care.
01:23:32.000They want to create a system where they can take all of the medical data of every human on the planet.
01:23:38.000Hey, maybe COVID had something to do with that.
01:23:40.000Load it into the system, and they want to know everything about you, your height, your weight, what food you eat, your caloric intake, whatever.
01:23:48.000Compare that with your age, your blood pressure, and all these things.
01:23:53.000And then the AI will be able to diagnose any problem instantly.
01:23:59.000And so what they want to build is, it's almost like Elysium when they sit down in that bed and it scans them and then cures cancer.
01:24:06.000They want to build a system where you walk up to the machine, you draw blood, put it in, and instantaneously it will say, you've got these ailments.
01:24:40.000You know, they're building out a utopia.
01:24:43.000That's why to me it sounds a lot of this stuff sounds like digital communism, where they think they can build out this perfect place where you can just be a poet and paint and do all these things.
01:25:11.000I mean, I think they want to consolidate all the power into a very small place like a Silicon Valley and run the world and do whatever they want.
01:25:24.000They're going to plug themselves into the AI machine and they're going to, they're going to neural.
01:25:29.000Here's the other thing about what the AI can do.
01:25:32.000And I was talking to someone who's investing in this.
01:25:35.000And this is why they were like, don't talk about it.
01:25:37.000But what they want to be able to do is brute force Neuralink inputs.
01:25:41.000So one of the challenges with Neuralink is that every human brain is different.
01:25:45.000And this is apparent to anybody who's thought two seconds about it.
01:25:47.000Like when Soylent tried making the one, the food replacement, they said, we're going to make a drink that if you drink it, it gives you everything you need.
01:25:55.000And then they went, oh, every human is different.
01:25:57.000Literally different height, different sizes, different weights, different amount of hair.
01:26:00.000And so everybody has a different requirement.
01:26:05.000So then they said, drink Soylent every day, but at least one day have a normal meal because you've got to supplement whatever it is you're missing.
01:26:11.000They want to be able to brute force the Neuralink.
01:26:15.000So when we try to connect computers to our brain, the problem is every brain is actually wired differently.
01:26:22.000So you need an AI that can automatically map your brain.
01:26:26.000It maps as it starts to map all of the human brains, it will then much more, it will be able to much more quickly Neuralink.
01:26:36.000You put a million people into the Neuralink and let the AI start scanning all the neural pathways, and it's going to take a very long time to calibrate.
01:26:44.000After the first million, it'll have a general understanding of human brain pathways and their divergence based on race, gender, or otherwise.
01:26:51.000So then they can more quickly do the next batch.
01:26:53.000And then eventually, the ultra elites will simply plug in and it'll go connecting, and it'll instantly connect to their brain without having to wire or track.
01:27:04.000AI, if it can make a movie in 10 seconds, if it can make a song in 10 seconds, imagine what it can do to your body mapping it out.
01:27:12.000And these people, they want to be able to connect, live forever, fly around, do whatever they want.
01:27:17.000And more importantly, they want to plug their brains into any kind of fake matrix world they can choose to live in.
01:27:23.000And everyone else just slowly dies off.
01:27:42.000Regulation is not going to stop any totally agree.
01:27:45.000We definitely got away from the heavy political stuff.
01:27:47.000So we'll grab one more segment for you guys.
01:27:49.000AB, I mean, I got to be honest, before we jump into this next story, guys, whether or not the Pentagon is reviewing Mark Kelly means really nothing.
01:28:30.000We were just talking about the data center takeover.
01:28:32.000I believe what we're seeing in politics and the culture wars, whether intentionally or otherwise, is distracting us from the fact that data centers are buying up all the land.
01:28:42.000And only when it clashes with local farm does it get into the press.
01:28:46.000But in the meantime, no one knows it's happening.
01:28:49.000And we are talking about this story, which I'm going to stress again, a review is meaningless.
01:28:54.000So that's why we're talking about data centers.
01:28:55.000But to be fair, I do believe there is some merit to this story.
01:28:58.000So of course, there could be some political ramifications.
01:29:01.000And I will stress: if we actually do win politically, we can do something about data center takeovers.
01:29:10.000I will then stress in a rather pessimistic way, Donald Trump is one of the biggest champions of the expansion of AI in data centers.
01:29:18.000Well, I mean, look, according to the people that are looking to regulate AI and stuff, they do see it as an existential threat for the United States versus China, right?
01:29:29.000Whether or not you agree, China is investing heavily in power production.
01:29:35.000You know, they've got Three Gorges Dam.
01:29:37.000They've been investing in, they have an all types of energy policy.
01:29:44.000So they're doing coal, they're doing nuclear, they're doing, you know, solar, everything they can, because China looks at AI as the future.
01:29:53.000And the United States is very, very, very behind on that.
01:29:56.000And I don't know what, you know, what the people in the free world are looking to do versus what China's going to do.
01:30:03.000But if China wins the AI race and they do actually, if AGI is possible and China achieves AGI before, you know, the United States or before Western countries, that's going to be a big problem for the rest of the world.
01:30:14.000It's funny, though, because the tech vampires will talk out of both sides of the mouth.
01:30:17.000On one side, they'll say, we have to beat them.
01:30:37.000I think it's fair to say that no one cares about this review of Mark Kelly.
01:30:40.000Well, I heard Obama was treasonous as well, and I haven't seen anything.
01:30:43.000No, I just, I just mean like we can't get off the subject of AI designer takeover because no, but I think the fair point is that what more is to be said about their thorough review, which means they're going to do what, nothing?
01:30:56.000Well, I mean, he can be recalled to service, which he could then be prosecuted under the military code of justice.
01:31:02.000Yeah, but announcing a thorough review sounds like a PR statement and then I guess, but you have to do an investigation before you go through the process, right, Phil?
01:31:51.000I really do feel like the principal issue we're facing is not political right now because Trump and the Democrats are all on board with the AI expansion.
01:32:01.000If you want to connect it to the idea of good versus evil, and there's no religion anymore, except I think there is a revival happening, especially after what happened to Charlie.
01:33:08.000And they're like, yeah, you can talk to Satan.
01:33:11.000If you know anything about Catholic exorcisms, one of the things that people who do them will tell you is that you do not enter into a conversation or a debate with the demon because they are by nature manipulative liars.
01:33:23.000And their whole goal is to throw you off of your reliance on God and to trick you into helping them.
01:33:31.000So like this idea of talking to Satan through a chatbot is so horrifying to me.
01:34:01.000I think this is the bigger picture thing of what's going on and that we should understand.
01:34:05.000In the past decade, the way we consume news has drastically changed.
01:34:09.000The gatekeepers are more or less gone or they're in the process of being removed.
01:34:13.000And there have been unintended consequences to that.
01:34:16.000And one of them has been this foreign manipulation that we're seeing abroad.
01:34:19.000I think this is just really the top of the mountain, the tip of the iceberg.
01:34:24.000So, to speak, I think this is the only thing that we were able to see on the surface level, but there's still a ton of other fake profiles on the social media platforms that are disseminating different news.
01:34:33.000I think we're going to see more digital manipulation through AI with different videos and pictures and whatnot.
01:34:38.000And in the future, most of the news that we consume through social media will likely be produced by AI.
01:34:45.000The way that that manipulates us in the future, you know, it has yet to be seen.
01:34:48.000There's a serious one percenter issue of the content that's being made on these social media platforms.
01:34:54.000So I think that's something we should be on the lookout for.
01:34:56.000And the way that there were big strides and changes in the way that we consume media in the past decade with social media, I think we're going to hit a similar new wave of that with AI and the way that we involve it in our news ecosystem.
01:35:21.000And video of the cat playing musical instruments on the porch was amazing.
01:35:25.000And anybody can just snap their fingers and make one, and now they're going viral like crazy.
01:35:31.000We have a staff, we have a studio, we have infrastructure costs.
01:35:36.000We're nowhere near as expensive or big as, say, cable TV used to be, where obviously we grew into this.
01:35:43.000The advantage is going to be held for a little while by people who work entirely on their own.
01:35:47.000I think very likely at some point soon, this is not sustainable.
01:35:52.000One of the reasons I've very much been pushing for Timcast membership is because we've had a strong membership of tens of thousands of people for a long time in the Discord community.
01:36:02.000But now it's becoming clear that the reality of maintaining a show like this is going to be built around having tens of thousands of paying members for a product and not getting views on social media.
01:36:15.000And maybe this is what the machine wants.
01:36:16.000They don't want you sort of restore the old monoculture by destroying variety, by mass implementing variety.
01:36:26.000That is, it used to be only five channels you could watch, everyone largely agreed on everything.
01:36:29.000But now that there's 50,000 channels to watch, everyone disagrees.
01:36:33.000Once it gets to the point where it's just noise and static, where everybody's making random content, literally no one will be able to make a living off of the space.
01:36:41.000It feels like we're at the point of most content being noise and static.
01:36:44.000The biggest stories I see on social media are just the dumbest, irrelevant, made-up story where you really have to think about the media literacy of the people online to believe a lot of shit.
01:36:55.000Everything is the most dumb conspiracy that it's really people just buying and following what they want to believe.
01:37:01.000It's not about what's actually real, it's what you want to be real.
01:37:04.000And you could find that variety of whatever you want to be real online.
01:37:07.000Right, I'll give you an example: when I was talking about the Charlie Kirk conspiracies on the Culture War show, and I was told two things: one, Charlie was shot from behind, and the guy who shot him was in front of him in a bush.
01:37:19.000And I was like, okay, see, those two things that can't be correct, right?
01:37:25.000No, they didn't because it didn't matter because saying it got you clicks.
01:37:28.000And so if you make a video claiming that this assassin's out to kill you right now and that there's a plane flying around That's landed a bunch of times.
01:37:38.000And then from the airport, they're driving to federal buildings where your lawyers are at.
01:37:42.000It's like you're going to get millions of views.
01:37:44.000And you also have to wonder if this is getting millions of views or if this is being digitally manipulated aggressively.
01:37:50.000I know people use bots on Twitter and social media as a social proof for their work.
01:37:55.000Not saying there's not popular people on social media, but I know people do it as a social proof.
01:38:00.000And we see that we are being manipulated by these foreign accounts.
01:38:03.000Twitter and social media is very easily manipulated.
01:38:06.000I wonder, are there that many stupid people out there craving this conspiratorial bullshit?
01:38:11.000I mean, there aren't that many viewers at Shane's show.
01:38:13.000So if they're, I mean, Shane doesn't have the biggest show in the world.
01:38:16.000If people really bought into this shit, I'd think Shane would have a much bigger audience.
01:38:23.000And I mean, maybe you need to dip into some of that stuff.
01:38:25.000Well, I think if you know history, you know these things are capable are possible.
01:38:29.000And to dismiss it outright, like assassinations that are carried out by the deep state throughout the 60s and around the world, coups like that.
01:38:38.000So dismissing it makes you sound retarded.
01:38:40.000I don't think political assassinations are.
01:38:52.000I don't know who the answers are, but I am worried about someone.
01:38:55.000Indeed, and that's very, I said this earlier today when I was talking about Candace's assassination threat.
01:39:00.000That government's assassinating people all the time.
01:39:02.000It's like the norm, the anomaly is when they don't.
01:39:06.000However, that being said, I find it fascinating that Candace Owens went on her show last week and said, you know, this plane, someone sent her an email, and there were federal vehicles coming from the airport and going to this address in Delaware.
01:39:22.000And it turns out it was the same address of her own lawyers.
01:39:25.000And she addressed it, I guess, saying, yes, duh, but there's federal offices there.
01:39:31.000And the funny thing is, the left came out and said that, haha, Candace got hoaxed.
01:39:36.000She thought her own address, lawyers' address, was where the feds were going.
01:39:41.000I'm like, how come nobody came out and said Candace is in on it?
01:39:47.000That why, why does she employ a law firm that works in a federal building or in a building with a bunch of federal undercover, you know, whatever is going on?
01:39:55.000Is it her lawyers or the lawyers that the lawsuit was filed with?
01:39:58.000The lawsuit was served to a law firm that works in the same building that she claims is the DEI, the FBI, the Secret Service, et cetera.
01:40:05.000And so my response was jokingly like, whoa, that proves that Candace is part of the PSYOP and she accidentally just outed her handlers.
01:40:13.000If she is involved in the PSYOP, it's to make us more retarded.
01:41:17.000I think there's an interesting conundrum in a show claiming that you'll be silenced for criticizing Israel and people are trying to kill you while having one of the top podcasts in the world for like years now and making tons of money doing it.
01:41:30.000You know, I kind of just find it hard to believe that YouTube, Spotify, Apple are all like, let's prop this up because Nick Fuentez got banned, mind you.
01:41:37.000And she's like, remember, you can't say these things, otherwise you'll get banned.
01:41:40.000And then she's promoted massively on all these platforms.
01:42:23.000Some people can say, I don't know why some people can say some things.
01:42:26.000YouTube's always chosen who gets to be number one and who gets big, who gets views.
01:42:30.000And this was proven when that woman was in her car with a pet snake and she gained something like three million or she gained like a million followers in two days with two videos alone.
01:42:39.000And it was because they said the YouTube system accidentally took her and promoted her to everybody.
01:42:57.000I don't think it makes, I'm sorry, it just makes no sense that they are simultaneously trying to assassinate her while big tech is propping her up.
01:43:06.000I will say, though, there is a massive effort amongst a lot of influencers online to make her look dumb, right?
01:43:12.000So there's like a coordinated effort amongst a bunch of people to attack her.
01:43:16.000The same way it happened to Alex Jones, but with the corporate media, it was him against the corporate media.
01:43:20.000Why is YouTube putting her on front page and promoting her?
01:43:29.000When if you subscribe to a channel and you go to youtube.com, YouTube tells you, here, we have chosen 15 videos from your subscriptions that we think you want to see.
01:43:38.000So there are many people who are right now experiencing shadow banning.
01:43:42.000And I've been hearing from a lot of prominent individuals saying like YouTube won't promote my videos anymore.
01:43:47.000And I will additionally add, if you look at some of these more prominent conservative commentators, you'll notice their views are substantially down.
01:43:52.000I don't want to call anybody out specifically, but guys, seriously, just go look at your favorite conservative commentator and look at their last few videos and their views are in the gutter.
01:43:58.000So what is it about Candace that YouTube has no problem blasting her out to everybody?
01:44:35.000Did the Macron's file a suit and then she immediately went to the feds over this?
01:44:39.000And more importantly, if she says France and Israel or France wants to assassinate her and at least one Israeli, you'd have to imagine she's talking with the feds, right?
01:44:52.000So then when you find out her law firm is working in the federal building, sounds to me like Candace is working with the feds.
01:44:58.000And I don't mean that as a joke, but I mean, I got to be honest, if you're being targeted by a foreign government, you genuinely believe so, and they're trying to sue you, and Trump called you about it, there's no way federal national security is not involved.
01:45:09.000Then I have the question of why is YouTube putting her on the front page?
01:45:12.000Why are they letting her be number one when Nick Fuentes gets banned straight off Spotify and her legal team works in the same building as feds?
01:45:21.000Crazy theory with that was that, and I was saying this right after days after Charlie was assassinated, was that we're experiencing an acceleration of disinformation from all around.
01:45:30.000It's like this noise, this distortion to sow discord.
01:45:36.000What I think is the tech people who run the algorithms, who we've talked about earlier, who will take things and take isolated people and radicalize them into violence.
01:46:10.000When everyone said she got hoaxed because she read this email that said, here's the address, and it turned out that was the address where her law firm was at.
01:46:19.000Wouldn't she have said this is a creepy email?
01:46:22.000Because it turns out, because she could have said, are they spying on my lawyers?
01:46:26.000Instead, she doesn't mention it until she gets called out.
01:46:29.000So again, considering she's propped up, so I'll say this.
01:46:33.000You could argue she's a good show and people are entertained by it, but there are a lot of good shows that YouTube has removed, like Alex Jones, for instance.
01:46:39.000Yet she's given preferential access and treatment, all while claiming you can't have that.
01:46:44.000And her lawyers are in the same building as the feds, and she didn't disclose that.
01:46:51.000And if she did, what is she talking to them about?
01:46:53.000I would not be surprised if it turns out she's been, she does have some kind of handler.
01:46:59.000I'm not saying she's instructed to do things or that anything she says is part of a coordinated effort, but that she has a liaison with the government.
01:47:07.000And you can look at it from a variety of factors.
01:47:09.000If there's a legitimate assassination threat against you and she has claimed that, then you're from a foreign government.
01:47:16.000Of course, you're going to be talking with national security, right?
01:47:20.000The fact that YouTube is not removing but promoting her, and we know that the feds had back doors into these systems.
01:47:25.000I think there's legitimate questions about why Candace Owens is able to do things that no one else can do.
01:48:05.000When you get to a certain level, you get handlers.
01:48:07.000There's something Kanye talked about all the time before he disappeared, you know, for six months.
01:48:10.000Always worried about having a handler.
01:48:11.000I mean, the handlers are basically what killed Prince and Michael and Michael Jackson.
01:48:15.000So, so, so this is funny because I got comments right now saying that I met with Bibi Netanyahu.
01:48:20.000I will meet with any world leader, but whatever you think of me, my questions are completely legitimate.
01:48:26.000I'm not saying Candace is doing anything wrong.
01:48:28.000I'm saying answer me this: why Alex Jones and Nick Funtes are banned from everywhere, and Candace Owens is propped up.
01:48:34.000Why does Candace Owens have a law firm that is in a federal building with the DEA, the FBI, and the Secret Service?
01:48:40.000Nick and all one big accident, I guess.
01:48:42.000But both Nick and Alex had a narrative as to why they were booted, right?
01:48:48.000So the Alex Jones thing is because he said such terrible things about the families that were at the school shooting and stuff about who was involved.
01:48:57.000He was making accusations and allegedly it was, oh, he hurt these people so much.
01:49:19.000So if the point is they have said things atrocious and offensive, then it is acceptable to insinuate Turning Point insiders killed Charlie Kirk.
01:49:28.000Like YouTube's totally fine with that level of conspiracy.
01:49:31.000Apparently, couldn't Turning Point launch a lawsuit similar to what was launched against Alex Jones against Candace Owens?
01:49:43.000And if, and, and Candace's going to be like, I never explicitly said they did it.
01:49:46.000They're going to say it doesn't matter.
01:49:47.000And the same thing will levitate against her from Turning Point.
01:49:49.000They're going to Alex Jones, Candace, at some point.
01:49:53.000I think YouTube, YouTube banned Alex before all that went down.
01:49:58.000YouTube would certainly at least shadow ban or they call it the small room ban, meaning they allow her to get a lot of views, but it slowly declines over time.
01:50:08.000So it looks like natural audience recession.
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01:52:44.000Eric Shaver says, Shane's show is like a creepy camp counselor telling spooky ghost stories to the kids to make them pee their pants so he can smell them.
01:54:54.000That means the second the particle is observed, the results change.
01:54:58.000That's not relevant to the entanglement, as far as I understand.
01:55:02.000What was explained to me is they want to use entangled particles for communications, but they don't have the tech yet to watch it in real time.
01:55:11.000Maybe that's what you're referring to.
01:55:12.000Like if they do try to watch it in real time, it doesn't behave properly.
01:55:16.000But they want to use AI to quickly solve these mathematical equations so then they can make these technologies work.
01:55:22.000I remember when quantum computing was the thing.
01:55:27.000Well, quantum computing is still a thing.
01:55:29.000They're still working on it, but quantum computing doesn't, like the applications aren't like the same kind of thing that your laptop's going to do.
01:55:37.000It's not like going to just do the stuff your laptop does faster.
01:55:39.000It does different types of computations.
01:55:48.000For the past week or so, it just wasn't possible to do.
01:55:51.000So here's the way my morning schedule works.
01:55:54.000I have to record, let's see, it's two 20 minute segment, a 20 minute, 20 minute, 30 minute, 10 minute, 10 minute, then go live for an hour.
01:56:03.000And I have from 9 a.m. to get all of that done so that we can go live at noon.
01:56:08.000Now, that's not really difficult to do if you've got a healthy and robust news cycle.
01:56:14.000But on days when either we're waiting for breaking news, and so I have my publishing schedule in the morning, which is for Rumble and YouTube, it's 10, noon, 1, and 3.
01:56:25.000And then we have the At Tim Pool show, which is 2 p.m.
01:56:29.000And then we have the Culture War at 4.
01:56:32.000To be able to do all of that in the morning on days where we're entering a holiday, seriously, we come in, we sit down, and we're like, we've got, there was one day where the front page of every news site was 15 different articles about Epstein in the exact, in the same way, but with a different article.
01:56:50.000I was like, dude, there's no news show we can do.
01:56:54.000However, one of the solutions to this in a typical newsroom would be you hire a story producer who has a backlog of evergreen stories like AI weather phenomenon, which we don't have.
01:57:07.000In the meantime, it just means we are not going to prioritize rushing an hour live show and interview if there's no big story to do a half an hour of commentary and a half an hour interview on.
01:57:17.000Instead, we'll just focus on doing the prescient news segments that we can, though we want to do the news live.
01:57:23.000Sometimes it's like, guys, we can't force a story or a show on something when there's limited commentary and make it go live.
01:57:32.000Otherwise, what happens is I end up not doing segments.
01:57:54.000And we didn't know if it was going to work in the first place.
01:57:56.000But what we may need to do is just bring on a story producer so that we have a story every day, regardless of whether the news cycle supports a half an hour news show.
01:58:05.000I'll be honest, setting up all the story and lining it up for a half an hour is very difficult.
01:58:09.000And trying to do the full morning show and then the culture war with an hour live is very difficult.
01:58:44.000And I talked about it a bit on the uncensored portion of the show.
01:58:46.000But the simple version is my understanding is they had filled the typical slot we took before they even let me know that they weren't intending to invite us.
01:58:56.000So that when we were asking, like, hey, we just were wondering what the schedule is going to be because we have to book hotels and stuff.
01:59:03.000And we were being told, like, don't worry, we'll let you know we're working on it.
01:59:06.000They had actually already booked the stage.
01:59:08.000So they knew at bare minimum, we would not be in our typical slot and we were unaware.
01:59:14.000And so my, my, you know, I'll keep it simple, but we got invited to another event that is happening just before Amfest.
01:59:23.000And when we reached out, we were like, well, they're full, but we're working on it.
01:59:27.000And I was like, I got to pull the trigger on something.
01:59:29.000And so I was told that we weren't being invited because of things that I said that were hurtful.
01:59:33.000They had actually filled the stage a month before I had said anything.
01:59:37.000So I guess they just didn't want to say her in the first place.
01:59:40.000And the idea that, you know, they did invite me back after the fact where I'm like, guys, we're less than a month out.
01:59:45.000And now you're going to bump four people off the stage you already booked because people have expressed concern when I said we weren't invited.
02:00:07.000And I said he was brave to have said it.
02:00:09.000I was like, because nobody wants to say that publicly.
02:00:12.000Now, what I had said that offended them was that there are people who fear turning point can't make it without Charlie.
02:00:18.000You know, it's up to these other people to speak up, but I'll tell you this, behind the scenes, prominent conservatives across the board are saying it.
02:00:25.000Some people are saying there won't be a turning point next year.
02:00:28.000I think everybody generally understands that feeling, but nobody wants to be the one to say it.
02:00:32.000I'm not the first person saying it either.
02:00:34.000I called myself cowardly when Joel pointed out.
02:00:37.000I said, I've not been willing to come out publicly and say anything like this, but he said it.
02:00:43.000There are many high-profile individuals with millions of followers who are all saying the exact same thing, but none of them have the balls to come out publicly and say that's how they feel.
02:00:51.000So I guess, because they don't want to be looked at as like a dick or whatever.
02:00:55.000Can I put you guys on the spot and ask you what you think about it?
02:00:58.000Unfortunately, without Charlie Kirk, it's only as sustainable as the donors will let them go.
02:01:03.000I don't think there's a replacement turning point was Charlie Kirk Plus.
02:01:08.000And now without Charlie Kirk, the plus, you know, I think they're going to continue having these events.
02:01:13.000But the way they're also strategically, politically moving, it almost seems like they want them to fail.
02:01:19.000Dropping the ball with you is the behavior.
02:02:28.000Desire, insult, whatever you might think doesn't matter.
02:02:30.000What matters is the vision of the management.
02:02:33.000And if you think that the management's vision, not including us, is detrimental to turning point, that's fine.
02:02:40.000Charlie's vision was bring Jenk Uger, bring James Lindsay, bring Tim Poole, make a big coalition.
02:02:45.000It feels like their strategy has shifted.
02:02:48.000That being said, I was talking to one guy today, and I said, I think it's going to be like CPAC.
02:02:51.000It had the makings of a new South by Southwest in Phoenix with all these parties popping up.
02:02:56.000Now I feel like it's probably going to be more like a CPAC.
02:02:58.000And this dude said, I don't think there will even be one.
02:03:01.000Look, it's strategically incompetent of them to drop the ball with personalities like you.
02:03:06.000I don't know what their deal is with other people, but particularly with people like you.
02:03:09.000And I think it's unfortunate in a time like this.
02:03:12.000I don't know if it's a compliment to Charlie Kirk and an insult to Turning Point, but they just have such big shoes to fill that I don't know if it's possible for them to.
02:03:19.000It's not just Turning Point, but I will say this.
02:03:21.000The conversations I've been having with a lot of political personalities, even to a certain degree before we started this show, when we're trying to figure out what story we want to do, is that people are largely tuned out of politics, worse than we've seen in a long time.
02:03:34.000There's also economic issues around ad rates that's affecting the entirety of the space, not just political, but many of the most prominent political personalities are suffering in their viewership, and it's crazy.
02:03:46.000Tate was mentioning he went to the gala at Mar-a-Lago and a bunch of different companies came up to him and they're like, how are Tim's views still good?
02:03:54.000And it's like, I have no idea, but I can tell you this, guys, seriously, just go look at prominent conservative personalities' YouTube channels and you'll see that their views are way, way, way, way down.
02:04:02.000And when I say way down, I mean like 80%.
02:04:05.000And there's kind of this behind the scenes panic where people are like, these conversations are happening.
02:04:12.000And I'm like, guys, the same sentiment around people choosing not to watch political content and the management sentiment not wanting to have people like me at Amfest.
02:04:25.000I think generally there is just this like, the political space is breaking away, losing its connection to the general public.
02:04:33.000And where pop culture was politics for a long time, that's starting to fade because people are tired of it.
02:04:38.000So I've been telling people you need to figure out how to connect with regular people and find out where that space is.
02:04:43.000But going hardcore, rigid, conservative, mainline politics is the antithesis.
02:04:49.000So my point largely is if they're choosing to double down on people wearing suits talking political messaging at a time when political content is way down, it feels apocalyptic.
02:05:00.000But we got to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
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02:05:05.000I'll get into the nitty-gritty on this stuff at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.
02:05:09.000I'll spill the beans on some of what people are saying and telling me, much to the chagrin of everybody else.
02:05:44.000I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
02:05:47.000I wasn't in when Taylor Green announced her resignation of Congress.
02:05:52.000So I'm here tonight to celebrate that we're smoking on that Trader Green, if you know what I'm saying.
02:05:56.000And we also have fat ones rolled for the other rhinos, the anti-MAGA rhinos in Congress, for when Massey loses and these other rhinos in the Republican Party get kicked out.
02:07:48.000Do you think Turning Point can survive without Charlie?
02:07:51.000I think if it survives, it's going to look pretty different than what it did when Charlie was there.
02:07:57.000I am, I'm kind of just fed up with, you know, I can understand the sentiment that the left sticks together to a pain, you know, to cancellation, and the right never does.
02:08:09.000And that's why a lot of the sentiment right now is just don't say anything, don't negatively impact Turning Point.
02:08:19.000I've talked to way, way too many people in the space, be it producers or personalities themselves, and the gall, the like the hubris of it all.
02:08:33.000I was talking to one guy, and I was like, yeah, you know, we're not going to be at MFEST this year.
02:08:37.000And he goes, there won't be an MFEST next year at all.
02:08:52.000However, if there is a problem that can be solved right now and no one says anything, it will not be solved and Turning Point will fail.
02:09:00.000So everyone's saying, don't speak up about it because it'll hurt Turning Point.
02:09:03.000I'm like, actually, not speaking up will hurt Turning Point.
02:09:06.000I think the biggest problem that Turning Point faces isn't, well, the biggest problem is obviously Charlie, but the subsequent problems that are really going to cause an issue with them carrying on is the management now, right?
02:09:20.000Like if they had people that were of a single mind and looking for the same thing that Charlie was, then they might have a chance.
02:09:29.000But it seems like the leadership doesn't have a good idea of what Turning Point looks like in the future.
02:09:37.000And it seems like there's a lot of personal beef kind of garbage that goes along with it.
02:09:41.000Like the conversations about, you know, he was talking about his follower count or whatever.
02:09:48.000And if Andrew is more worried about his own star rising than keeping Turning Point doing what it had been doing, then it's absolutely going to be this is like, I think Candace has talked about this quite a bit.
02:10:00.000So it's not like this is not known, but that's the general rumor that's floating around to the point where even Phil can opine upon it that Andrew Colvett, who's now running Turning Point, is more concerned with his own rising star as opposed to successfully running the company.
02:10:27.000And he was always the behind the scenes sort of like communications Charlie handler kind of guy, like the logistics guy, right?
02:10:39.000And it can be very jarring to, in the span of two months, not only lose your best friend on a live stream, but then also to be thrust into the spotlight as trying to like keep this massive organization together.
02:10:54.000And Charlie had this de facto role as keeping the conservative movement together.
02:11:01.000And that's a lot to put on somebody who hasn't really had a public profile.
02:11:06.000I think everyone's saying this is being political.
02:11:10.000I think that I was being political early on.
02:11:14.000A lot of people asked me questions about Turning Point and I was trying to be respectful and amicable to Andrew and many others.
02:11:20.000People, like I've had, I've been stopped twice.
02:11:23.000So it's not like a lot, but I was, one guy stopped me and asked me if Charlie was really dead.
02:12:32.000It wasn't so much that I needed to be there, but I was trying to be amicable to people I was expecting to work with.
02:12:37.000When it turns out they didn't want to work with me, it's like, okay, well, let's be honest.
02:12:41.000You don't get to string me along for two months, telling me you're working on it when you never had any intention of me being there and then think I'm going to be nice to you after the fact.
02:12:53.000And no one has the balls to speak up and say anything about it because everyone's scared that they're going to get cut off from the machine, that they expect to die in a year anyway.
02:12:59.000And it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
02:13:01.000There's a very strong probability it can survive, but that's why my view is like it's it's largely going to be like a CPAC kind of thing under Charlie.
02:13:09.000He built it up to have this kind of social gravitas.
02:13:14.000I told him last year, I was like, bro, this is the makings of the next South by Southwest.
02:13:18.000James O'Keefe's party has a line out the door stretching down the block.
02:13:21.000The Daily Wire had a cigar party with like 120 people there or more, and people trying to get in and couldn't.
02:13:27.000And I said, Next year, we have to have the Tim Cast party, and there need to be side events.
02:13:33.000We went from this is going to be the new South by, the makings of being not just a non-profit fundraiser event, but to actually be a for-profit, massive Phoenix moment where vendors, industry, all of this stuff takes place.
02:14:31.000I haven't looked at it, but apparently he put up a flyer and it was like the quartering live at Amfest, 2 p.m. Eastern Time or something.
02:14:37.000And then when we were coming up to do the show, they were like, oh, he deleted it.
02:14:41.000And there were a bunch of people commenting because, of course, people were tagging me and tweeting at me, saying that it was like Timu Timcast.
02:14:48.000AmFest couldn't get Tim Cast, so they're getting quartering, which is, I want to say, it's not fair to Jeremy.
02:15:07.000I'm going to say this: Jeremy's allowed to do shows, and if there's prominent personalities who are available, he should take them.
02:15:12.000And I don't want to see these people not work.
02:15:14.000And the idea that because Jeremy wants to do a show at Amfest doesn't mean people should compare him to us or anything like that, but then he took the post down.
02:15:21.000Like, I clearly think that there is a concern over what Amfest looks like if it's not going to be a kind of big tent, culturally relevant movement.
02:15:30.000Amber, I wanted to ask you, because I know you're finely attuned to a lot of the goings on in the right wing.
02:15:35.000Do you think Turning Point is sustainable without Charlie?
02:15:41.000Well, I think one of the things that I'm going to be looking at that people haven't been paying as much attention to is Turning Point is known for, yes, having these massive events, but they also were assisting America PAC in the 2024 election with their ground game efforts, right?
02:16:05.000I think the big test will be what is their impact, if any, in the 2026 midterms.
02:16:11.000Are political PACs still going to be using the Turning Point Action C4 to help them with their ground games, or are they going to be irrelevant?
02:16:21.000And I know even before Charlie passed, there was some consternation among sort of old school Republican political operators who were frustrated that Turning Point was building its own data operation for ground game efforts in politics because they already have all of these voter files.
02:16:45.000It's like, well, why don't we combine forces and make this like really great big thing?
02:16:49.000But it seemed like Turning Point wanted their own data app in operation so that they could monetize it and weren't being team players, so to speak.
02:16:59.000So I'm curious to see how that element of it plays out, like the political element.
02:17:03.000Arctic Fox says, if Amphest is a flop, I'm going to put part of the blame on Tim for jumping the gun and letting his paranoia get the best of him.
02:17:54.000And then finally, I'm on the phone with Andrew.
02:17:56.000And he said, as we're wrapping up the phone call, he's like, look, because of things you had said that were hurtful, we weren't planning on having you back.
02:18:02.000But if you want to, if we could have you, would you still want to come?
02:18:19.000So then Monday, he texts our producer saying, I'm working on it, but we're full.
02:18:26.000And that's the message you get at any point right now, but we'll see if we can make it work.
02:18:30.000At the same time, I have another offer to go to the World Poker Tour, World Championships as an invited influencer, which is a massive non-political event.
02:18:41.000And the plan was to go there right before Amfest and then go to Amfest.
02:18:45.000When Amfest said we're full and we're, you know, it's a hep, we don't, we don't know if we can make it happen.
02:18:50.000I said, listen, I'm at the point where they're telling us they booked our slot already.
02:18:56.000They told me they didn't want to have me there.
02:18:58.000And now they're telling me that they're full.
02:19:00.000And I have to give an answer to the Vegas crew about what our plan is.
02:19:07.000And I'm not going to stress about it anymore.
02:19:10.000And in this process, I was informed that they had already, as I mentioned, they already booked the stage with our slot in it.
02:19:16.000And so they'd have to bump four speakers they had already scheduled if they were going to make it work for us, knowing I had asked them a month and a half ago.
02:19:24.000So I'm just kind of like, guys, I know when I'm not invited, and I'm not going to make it a thing.
02:19:38.000And then I'll also absolutely justify the World Poker Tour World Championships.
02:19:42.000If I got invited to the World Series to do a show, I'd do the same thing.
02:19:45.000If I got invited to the Super Bowl, I'd do the exact same thing.
02:19:48.000If we are going to try and reach people and build awareness of these political efforts, the stupidest motherfucking thing conservatives do is shit on video games, shit on comic books, shit on sports, shit on things normies like to do.
02:20:14.000The idea that conservatives have an aversion to meeting Normies where they are to convince them to see the light is the craziest thing I've ever heard.
02:20:24.000And so I have no problem saying, aside from the show that we do, we do music, skateboarding, and poker.
02:20:30.000Things that regular people love to do, especially those who are not involved in politics.
02:20:36.000And if I can meet them where they are and they can learn about what we do and get interested in the things we talk about, and they do, fuck yes, I'm going.
02:20:45.000And so the plan was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday in Vegas for the opening of the World Poker Tour World Championships, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, turning point USA.
02:21:25.000We're talking with Cody Dennison about doing Timcast IRL live from an actual NASCAR race.
02:21:31.000We want to do these shows from places where we can meet with regular people and bring what we talk about to them.
02:21:38.000Otherwise, how do you convince people to pay attention to what's going on in the world if you're only talking to each other?
02:21:44.000With all due respect, Amphest is fantastic and I hope they succeed.
02:21:47.000But if all these political commentators do is go to political commentator events, you're not convincing people to wake up and pay attention.
02:21:56.000You're talking to your buddies about what you both already know, preaching to the choir.
02:22:00.000So if it's going to be NASCAR, if it's going to be skateboarding events, whatever we have to do, we are going to do it.