Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Crowdstrike Causes LARGEST I.T. CRASH In History, Credit Cards STILL DOWN w-Brick Suit | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 So this morning, the day after the RNC, everybody in Milwaukee is getting ready to fly home,

00:00:19.000 only to find out that they can't.

00:00:21.000 Because all the airlines are shut down, credit cards aren't working, I was trying to buy a cup of coffee, and the lady told me I had to give her cash.

00:00:27.000 Fortunately, I always have some cash on me, but CrowdStrike...

00:00:30.000 is reportedly responsible for the largest IT infrastructure outage in history, disabling a massive portion of the global economy.

00:00:38.000 It's not just in the United States.

00:00:40.000 There are reports of people in Europe trying to fly out.

00:00:43.000 Their planes ain't going anywhere.

00:00:45.000 We'll talk about how something like that happens.

00:00:46.000 It's also disrupted early voting in Arizona, which is freaking everybody out.

00:00:50.000 We'll talk about that.

00:00:51.000 And then, this is kind of crazy.

00:00:54.000 The story around the assassination attempt on Trump, we keep getting new information.

00:01:00.000 There's no official story, so I don't even know what to tell you.

00:01:02.000 But now we're learning that they allowed the shooter to fly a drone over the rally.

00:01:11.000 I'm at a loss for words, okay?

00:01:12.000 I did a lot of early research and work with aerial drones in the United States.

00:01:17.000 I know about the legalities and the limitations.

00:01:19.000 In fact, I worked with government agencies on literally what some of the regulations should be.

00:01:24.000 The idea that you could fly a drone at a presidential rally is the most insane thing I've ever heard.

00:01:29.000 Wall Street Journal is now reporting that.

00:01:30.000 None of it makes sense, my friends, but we're going to talk about it.

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00:02:41.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is BrickSuit!

00:02:44.000 How are you doing, Tim?

00:02:46.000 Oh, let me move the mic. 0.98

00:02:47.000 How are you doing?

00:02:48.000 I'm doing well.

00:02:49.000 And also, you were there in the front row on this day.

00:02:52.000 That's correct, yeah.

00:02:54.000 At Butler.

00:02:55.000 Just by chance, really.

00:02:56.000 And so you witness all of it.

00:02:58.000 It's really great to have you, man.

00:03:00.000 We'll talk about the news and hear your perspective.

00:03:02.000 Okay.

00:03:03.000 Who are you?

00:03:03.000 What do you do?

00:03:04.000 Well, my name's Blake, but I go by BrickSuit when I'm doing stuff online.

00:03:09.000 I generally support the President and America First politicians and just kind of You know, it really started as just something fun to do, but it's grown into something more than that.

00:03:19.000 And usually, that's pretty much it.

00:03:23.000 Right on.

00:03:23.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:03:23.000 Jeremy's back!

00:03:25.000 Glad to be back, glad to be here.

00:03:26.000 Thanks for moving your entire operation to Wisconsin just to accommodate my fear of travel, so glad to be here tonight.

00:03:32.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:33.000 And of course, Luke is here as well.

00:03:34.000 Luke Rudowsky, youtube.com forward slash wearechanged.

00:03:37.000 Today, no tape over the t-shirt because it's not really a controversial one, but a good one that reads, trust God, not government.

00:03:44.000 Get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

00:03:47.000 Thank you.

00:03:48.000 And I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:03:49.000 I'm the writer for SCNR.com.

00:03:51.000 I'm happy to be here with Jeremy on our last night in Wisconsin.

00:03:54.000 Thank you guys all for tuning in.

00:03:55.000 Let's get started.

00:03:56.000 This is the big news from today.

00:03:58.000 Of course, there's a ton of big news, but this one really is affecting your life.

00:04:01.000 Microsoft CrowdStrike issue causes largest IT outage in history.

00:04:06.000 Live updates.

00:04:08.000 Say businesses worldwide grappled with an ongoing major IT outage Friday as financial services and doctor's offices were disrupted while some TV broadcasters went offline.

00:04:16.000 Wow!

00:04:17.000 Banks were shut down, air travel has been hit particularly hard with planes grounded, services delayed, airports issuing advice to passengers.

00:04:24.000 The outage came as cybersecurity giant CrowdStrike experienced a major disruption early Friday following an issue with a recent tech update.

00:04:31.000 CEO George Kurtz has since said the company is actively working with customers impacted by a defect found in a single content update for Windows hosts, stressing that Mac and Linux hosts are not affected.

00:04:42.000 This is not a security incident or a cyber attack.

00:04:44.000 The issue has been identified, isolated, and a fix has been deployed.

00:04:48.000 One expert suggested it may be the largest IT outage in history, and I just would like to stress, if a single update could disrupt, like, a large portion of the global economy, You've basically just told all of our enemies the easiest way to, I don't know, shut down the global economy.

00:05:04.000 Some are actually suggesting there's a conspiracy theory, there's a conspiracy afoot, that it actually was a cyber attack against the U.S.

00:05:11.000 They're trying to cover up because they don't want people to panic.

00:05:13.000 However, What I've seen from some IT channels on Axe is that the update accidentally had code pointing to, what do they call it, like a null identifier?

00:05:23.000 Did you see that too, Jeremy?

00:05:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:25.000 Like, basically it was a dead link.

00:05:27.000 The memory said, pull from this place, and this place was nothing, so it just bricks out.

00:05:32.000 Like entry-level stuff.

00:05:33.000 Yeah, don't they usually test updates before sending them out to the entire freaking world?

00:05:39.000 Not on Fridays!

00:05:40.000 Yeah, I mean, automatically I was like, wait, this story kind of doesn't add up here.

00:05:44.000 The first thing that I thought about was Cyber Polygon, maybe this is a test run, but who knows?

00:05:48.000 Maybe it could be an accident, maybe it could be a coincidence, but CloudStrike is kind of a political...

00:05:54.000 They are kind of more aligned with the Democrats.

00:05:56.000 They blamed Russia on hacking the DNC.

00:05:59.000 They also have a major DEI office.

00:06:01.000 So this is not a bipartisan organization.

00:06:04.000 This is a political organization that also very conveniently wiped off a lot of favorable news coverage for Donald Trump as well.

00:06:10.000 So again, I don't know what happened, but I hope we find out.

00:06:13.000 I'd like to point out that bricking out is not always a bad thing.

00:06:17.000 Yeah, the crazy thing about this is that they're saying when all of these computers went down, it's a single update that knocks all the computers offline, and then they have to manually reboot each machine to make it work.

00:06:31.000 This is a huge and glaring cyber security issue coming from a company that's supposed to be helping them.

00:06:39.000 But wasn't CrowdStrike involved in, like, the DNC stuff?

00:06:42.000 Like, they, what is it, they claimed that the, um... The Russians were responsible for the DNC hack.

00:06:47.000 Yeah, that's, and that's probably not true, but I love how you've got these, let's just call them friends of the deep state, who will come out and say whatever the deep state wants to hear.

00:06:57.000 And they can tell that to the press.

00:06:58.000 And then you wonder why it is your credit cards don't work.

00:07:01.000 One of the theories going around right now, and I don't really care to believe this stuff, but at least it makes for entertaining content, I guess, is that they're flexing their muscles as a threat to Donald Trump.

00:07:10.000 I mean, the timing is coincidental, right?

00:07:12.000 It's the day after he accepts the Republican nomination to be the presidential candidate, and he delivers the longest recorded speech in televised history.

00:07:21.000 I mean, you know, I am a resident technophobe.

00:07:24.000 I barely know how to turn on my phone.

00:07:26.000 Jeremy was just trying to fix my battery on my computer.

00:07:28.000 But I will say, you know, the longer Americans go through, you know, they struggle to get into their financial institutions, the flights are all in disarray, it heightens the sense of fear that I think a lot of people have that the country really is on the brink of instability.

00:07:43.000 And especially after basically a week of very positive messages coming from the Republican campaign, it is hard not to believe that someone out there wants people to go back to feeling not hopeful, but scared.

00:07:55.000 Yeah, I wonder.

00:07:57.000 Donald Trump generated a ton of news, he gave a powerful speech, everybody was praising it, and then in the morning, instead of the news cycle being Donald Trump's speech, it's planes are down and your credit cards don't work.

00:08:08.000 Is that what you were pointing out, Luke?

00:08:09.000 People were freaking out in the morning.

00:08:11.000 And it didn't just start in this morning, it happened last night.

00:08:15.000 A lot of people were having difficulties flying back with transportation, getting into their banks, being able to travel, being able to get emergency services.

00:08:22.000 The Coast Guard had to manually have called in because their entire system went down.

00:08:28.000 So it wouldn't surprise me if there were some lives cost because of this coincidence.

00:08:34.000 They're saying hospitals, for instance, were shut down.

00:08:38.000 They couldn't get people in because their computers weren't working.

00:08:40.000 Exactly.

00:08:40.000 There was a big outage of the emergency services in Massachusetts about a month ago at this point, and it was during that huge heat wave that went through a lot of the country but definitely affected the Northeast.

00:08:51.000 And it was dangerous, right?

00:08:52.000 Because you have extreme heat, and in New England not everyone has air conditioning, so you have potentially older at-risk people not being able to have intervention.

00:09:00.000 It is interesting to me that about a month later we're seeing another big outage on an even larger scale.

00:09:07.000 Yeah, even this morning.

00:09:09.000 If you didn't have cash, you couldn't buy breakfast.

00:09:11.000 You still can't.

00:09:12.000 Yeah, you still can't.

00:09:13.000 It's still down.

00:09:14.000 I don't know.

00:09:15.000 If you guys are in the chat, you can comment if credit cards are still down.

00:09:18.000 Yeah, they're down for us.

00:09:20.000 Cash is king.

00:09:20.000 That's the only way to get it done.

00:09:22.000 And I don't know.

00:09:23.000 I'm not too mad about it, because I don't like, you know, having to do everything through these digital systems, and cash, I think, is a good thing they're trying to get rid of.

00:09:31.000 But even our team's basically asking how this is possible.

00:09:35.000 We have one super chat that I want to shout out right away.

00:09:37.000 Patrick C says he was an IT sysadmin for 20 years.

00:09:40.000 There's no way this was negligence because CrowdStrike is a huge company.

00:09:44.000 They have policies in place.

00:09:47.000 Even when we do updates on like our rinky-dink little app, You can't roll out a bad patch.

00:09:52.000 We have a test environment, and then you roll out there, and then when everything works, we then send it to the main environment.

00:10:00.000 I don't understand how this could happen.

00:10:02.000 It's 2024.

00:10:02.000 We can't believe in coincidences.

00:10:05.000 Today should be a major wake-up call to everyone to just how fragile our society is and just how dangerous the cashless society is that many globalists, many government officials want to ram through and they already have rammed it through in other places like Australia where cash purchases over a certain amount are illegal and they are criminalizing individuality, privacy, sovereignty and Freedom, at the fullest extent, and the buck stops with you, literally.

00:10:33.000 Cash is king, and I think today we realized that we gotta have more of it, since of course the banks don't even have that much cash on hand.

00:10:40.000 Remember how hard it was to get change?

00:10:43.000 Like, just post-lockdowns?

00:10:46.000 I don't believe that, you know, I'm sure there were quote-unquote reasons for that.

00:10:53.000 Do you know how many hundreds of, I'm sure it's out there, like just in credit card fees were lost today?

00:11:01.000 Like astronomical amount of money that was lost today.

00:11:04.000 That's why it's represented in the stock market.

00:11:07.000 A lot of this comes from our government allowing the same three companies to run literally everything.

00:11:13.000 It's just another perfect example of a system that favors these virtual monopolies and then gives them all the power.

00:11:23.000 You know, really, every major bank and every major this and that should probably not be on the same thing.

00:11:28.000 Let's make the conspiracies worse.

00:11:30.000 Look at this from the New York Post.

00:11:31.000 Crowdstrike global tech outage snarls early voting in Arizona with GOP convention travelers delayed.

00:11:37.000 So all of the GOP reps and delegates trying to fly out are jammed up, severely limiting their capabilities.

00:11:45.000 This will have a noticeable effect on Republicans' ability to have meetings, to make phone calls, to fundraise for at least a couple days, because if they miss their flight today, then they're gonna be delayed till tomorrow.

00:11:56.000 Some people probably said, okay, we'll just come back tomorrow.

00:11:58.000 But more importantly, voting in Arizona was actually upset by this.

00:12:02.000 And so, some people have been spreading this rumor that Dominion voting machines got shut down.

00:12:06.000 That is not correct.

00:12:08.000 It is something to do with the printers that print out the polls they need for voting weren't working, so it actually disrupted voting.

00:12:18.000 Is it going to disrupt fundraising too?

00:12:20.000 Republicans are going to be making calls after President Trump's acceptance speech.

00:12:26.000 People this morning who should have landed a couple hours ago, they wake up at nine, they get to the airport, they get ready to go to the airport, they're there by noon, their flight's in a little bit, they land in the afternoon, they're on the phone after that, it's Friday, now they're not.

00:12:38.000 Now they're in the airport calling the airline trying to figure out why they can't fly.

00:12:42.000 And all of these Republicans who just heard Trump speak That's the key moment for Trump to be like, give me money.

00:12:50.000 Not just those people flying home to make those calls, but if calls go through, are people able to make donations if they are reached?

00:12:56.000 Is the actual engine that accepts the donation down?

00:13:00.000 So even if you have volunteers back home in Arizona, can they even process the donations?

00:13:05.000 That's interesting.

00:13:06.000 As long as, if they were using CrowdStrike, then they can't.

00:13:09.000 Everybody else seemed to have been fine.

00:13:10.000 X was fine.

00:13:11.000 Everybody was posting on X. Linux servers were all fine.

00:13:15.000 Anybody that was on Linux, my website was fine.

00:13:18.000 I don't, it's kind of wild that we rely so heavily on singular companies for this stuff.

00:13:23.000 And that they could automatically update in such a way that it just basically breaks everything.

00:13:27.000 There was apparently like some post, I don't know if that was you mentioning it, Jeremy, where a guy was like, I could fix that computer right now, but the airline lady won't let me do it.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was, yeah, that was outlined.

00:13:37.000 She just wouldn't let him because like, I mean, the point that you made too, it's like manual updates.

00:13:42.000 This isn't like a just roll it back thing.

00:13:44.000 People had to, you know, actually come into the office and reboot these machines.

00:13:49.000 And a lot of people didn't have, like, admin access.

00:13:51.000 So a lot of employees who have corporate computers, they didn't actually have credential levels or whatever on their laptops to deploy the fix themselves.

00:14:01.000 So people that are all over the place, working remotely, traveling, they had basically bricked PCs.

00:14:07.000 And maybe we now know who, perhaps you were at the center of Rick Sukive.

00:14:14.000 Do you have an alibi right now?

00:14:15.000 Were you uploading an update last night?

00:14:18.000 I'm going to take the fifth on that.

00:14:20.000 Smart.

00:14:22.000 Neither confirm nor deny.

00:14:24.000 Let's jump to this story, too, where things get crazy.

00:14:26.000 The Wall Street Journal is reporting the Trump gunman ...flew a drone over the rally site hours before the attempted assassination.

00:14:34.000 I'm gonna pause right now and just say that's impossible.

00:14:36.000 That is impossible.

00:14:38.000 I don't know.

00:14:39.000 Modern drones won't even fly in secure zones.

00:14:44.000 I don't know how this is possible.

00:14:46.000 If you buy a modern, consumer-grade drone, and you turn it on, it will tell you, before you can fly it, you have to download the map, which tells you where you can and cannot fly.

00:14:56.000 It tracks no-fly zones, FAA rules and regulations.

00:15:00.000 After you download it, if you were anywhere near anything like this, it says, cannot take off.

00:15:05.000 Now, it's possible, it's possible, he had a really old drone, From ten years ago or something, that he was flying, but this makes literally no sense outside of the technological hurdles.

00:15:16.000 They allowed a drone to fly overhead, and they didn't do anything about it?

00:15:21.000 Okay, that's it.

00:15:23.000 I don't see how anyone at any point could say anything other than inside job.

00:15:27.000 Hands down, I'm- I'm str- Look.

00:15:30.000 In 2011 at Occupy, I'm flying one of the first commercial-grade drones, and we hacked it to live broadcast, using the software development kit, We pulled the data from the device while it's in the air and sent it to a laptop computer and then captured the video feed and broadcast it on the internet.

00:15:47.000 For this, we ended up getting a bunch of attention.

00:15:49.000 I ended up actually consulting with the university and the government on drone regulations and rules.

00:15:54.000 And this is impossible.

00:15:56.000 They let someone fly a drone.

00:15:59.000 Let me tell you why it's impossible.

00:16:01.000 The reason why we have the restrictions on drones, look at what's going on in Ukraine.

00:16:05.000 They strap a very small explosive to a drone.

00:16:08.000 The idea that they would allow a drone to fly anywhere near a presidential rally without putting in any kind of override is impossible.

00:16:15.000 They let this happen.

00:16:16.000 I don't get it.

00:16:18.000 Yeah, a 20-year-old shouldn't outsmart the national security state, but that's the official story that we're kind of being told to by the corporate media, that he somehow was able to get his hands on transmitters, also have explosives, also be able to wipe his phone.

00:16:34.000 Is this guy like a tech genius?

00:16:37.000 Is he the smartest man that's able to beat out the NSA's spying on every little single thing you do?

00:16:44.000 I don't think so.

00:16:45.000 Don't forget he can be on a sloped roof, too.

00:16:47.000 I mean, he's able to do that.

00:16:48.000 He's got anti-gravity boots, yeah.

00:16:51.000 We're going to have to go and look at all of the other Trump rallies to determine when they're allowing flights over the president, which is nuts.

00:17:02.000 But this implies that at a deeper federal level, It wasn't just the Secret Service who said, whoops, there's no guy on that roof.

00:17:10.000 It is the FAA allowing drones to fly over at... I'm gonna pause and say, this must be an old-school drone pre-FAA lockdowns.

00:17:25.000 So, I mean, it's nuts to me because look, even ten years ago, They updated the drones.

00:17:30.000 I'm talking 2014 and 2015.

00:17:32.000 All the drones got major updates that they could not fly because they were given FAA digital maps internally, which connected to their GPS, which would block them from flying in certain areas.

00:17:43.000 They also transmit their position, too.

00:17:46.000 Yes.

00:17:46.000 A lot of the modern ones.

00:17:48.000 So the FAA did not put up a no-fly zone to restrict drone flight?

00:17:51.000 The Secret Service and local law enforcement allowed a guy to launch a drone?

00:17:55.000 They say the use of the drone was just one way in which authorities have said Crooks planned his attack.

00:17:59.000 How is this possible?

00:18:01.000 Could it have been the day before?

00:18:02.000 It says hours before!

00:18:04.000 Tim, can I ask a question on this, because I don't know... This is right before the event.

00:18:07.000 I don't know anything about drones at all, really, because I don't have one.

00:18:10.000 But could he have pre-programmed it to launch from wherever I am, fly in a certain direction, a certain amount of space, and then come back?

00:18:18.000 Like, the drone was never really referencing that.

00:18:21.000 Only if it's an older drone from, like, 2013, or maybe he hacked it, I guess.

00:18:27.000 That's the level of sophistication that I think I would be surprised by.

00:18:30.000 He's an expert bomb maker.

00:18:32.000 He's the most skilled person we've heard of.

00:18:35.000 A 20-year-old with explosive remote triggers?

00:18:40.000 And drones that seemingly bypass... Some people have chatted saying that the FAA had no no-fly zone over there, and I'm like, what?

00:18:48.000 How?

00:18:49.000 Look, look, go to Best Buy, buy a consumer-grade drone.

00:18:52.000 It will not fly unless you connect it to the internet for an update first so it can track FAA no-fly zones.

00:18:58.000 The Secret Service denied a FOIA request from America First Legal today.

00:19:02.000 You know, they're asking for information like the identities of the Secret Service agents, all kinds of details about what's going on, and the Secret Service basically said, like, there's no urgency, you don't need this information.

00:19:12.000 And I can understand where, you know, Kind of to be expected, right?

00:19:16.000 They're a federal agency that's in the middle of something.

00:19:18.000 They're still getting their story together.

00:19:20.000 On the other hand, I think it is amazing that we are still almost a week out from this and really the government has not been able to even present something that they could, like, not even a story that we all would believe is a lie or a cover-up.

00:19:33.000 They're saying nothing and they're denying all requests for information.

00:19:36.000 It's possible, as people are chatting, he built his own drone.

00:19:40.000 Absolutely.

00:19:41.000 And so the narrative is then, the dude built explosives with remote triggers, and he built his own drone.

00:19:47.000 He flew his own custom-built drone at a presidential rally in front of law enforcement, and no one did anything.

00:19:53.000 Dude, I'm sorry.

00:19:55.000 If a custom-built drone is flying around a presidential rally, you'd think they'd stop it.

00:19:59.000 They'd say, we're gonna figure out the source of this.

00:20:02.000 Mr. President, do not go out on stage.

00:20:03.000 We had a drone flying overhead, and we can't identify where it's coming from.

00:20:07.000 I'm sorry, dude.

00:20:09.000 This is nuts.

00:20:11.000 This is just... They're not getting this one through on the story of some dumb 20-year-old figured this one out. 1.00

00:20:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:20:17.000 There's no way some dumb 20-year-old or some crazy kid who apparently... Was he in a Black Rock commercial? 0.99

00:20:22.000 Is that true? 0.99

00:20:23.000 That is true.

00:20:23.000 They filmed at his high school, right?

00:20:25.000 Correct.

00:20:25.000 He was like an extra, kind of.

00:20:27.000 He was in the background.

00:20:29.000 And that's an aside.

00:20:30.000 That's an aside.

00:20:31.000 But some 20-year-old kid with remote triggers?

00:20:33.000 How do you make those?

00:20:33.000 Where do you get them from?

00:20:34.000 Well, there's the story too about the second cell phone they found that has like, you know, a handful of contacts and now the FBI or whoever it's going through and trying to make contact with each one of those people.

00:20:43.000 I mean, the initial story was this kid barely existed, right?

00:20:48.000 He has no social media history.

00:20:49.000 He has no friends and he never talked about anything and we don't know anything about him.

00:20:53.000 And slowly we actually are getting details.

00:20:55.000 He clearly has someone in his phone book.

00:20:57.000 He was on that social media site saying something.

00:21:00.000 I saw this report the other day that he told his boss that he needed the next day off because he had, he needed July 13th off because he had something to do.

00:21:07.000 I mean, people know this person and this idea that he was able to do all of these things as like a lone wolf becomes increasingly more sketchy the longer the DHS and Secret Service keep it a mystery.

00:21:19.000 As his parents were calling the police hours beforehand, saying that they were concerned about the whereabouts and what their son is doing.

00:21:26.000 It was like 11 o'clock at night.

00:21:28.000 Yeah, but there was many reports.

00:21:30.000 There were many different things that they missed clearly here.

00:21:34.000 And it really makes you kind of wonder, you know, with the FBI going after pro-lifers, going after PTA meetings, Where their priorities are at, because if someone's buying transmitters, if someone's buying specific drone tech that allows you to obey a lot of the laws, rules and regulations, especially with just how weaponized they have become in Ukraine, these set off certain red flags, these set off certain alarms, that especially if someone is troubled, if someone is a loner, if someone is being bullied, automatically, if you're the national security state, you should have a sordid algorithm saying,

00:22:09.000 Yeah, the likelihood of this guy, especially with his mental health issues, maybe he was even on SSRIs.

00:22:14.000 You could even check the prescription data on that automatically.

00:22:16.000 Top of the list.

00:22:17.000 Let's just keep an eye on him.

00:22:20.000 But they don't do that.

00:22:20.000 They do a dragnet surveillance state that, of course, spies on your private wiener pictures.

00:22:25.000 Remember, schools have software in place that does this.

00:22:29.000 That's how they caught the kid in Wisconsin based on a search history.

00:22:33.000 And then it set off all red flags.

00:22:34.000 He ended up having a manifesto and all this kind of stuff.

00:22:37.000 And like you said, if you buy certain things from Amazon, they may be innocuous, but you combine them.

00:22:42.000 There is a notice that gets sent out.

00:22:45.000 I mean, look at all the times they've basically set up honeypots for those guys that are buying those credit card things, those punch-out things, and then all of a sudden everyone gets arrested.

00:22:54.000 They're watching all that stuff.

00:22:55.000 Let's play Occam's Razor, right?

00:22:57.000 In the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct.

00:23:03.000 What if I were to say that a 20-year-old kid who donated Democrat, was a registered Republican, had a grudge against Donald Trump, bypassed a Secret Service, local law enforcement, flew a drone, had explosives and remote detonators, and was able to successfully get off a few shots against President Trump, striking him in the ear?

00:23:22.000 There are so many holes in that statement.

00:23:26.000 In order to get to that point, you have to ask a million and one questions, You know, to be literal, you need to ask a question for every single instance, and each of those questions asks another ten.

00:23:38.000 We start with, how did he bring a rangefinder and use it at a presidential rally spotted by law enforcement without any questioning?

00:23:47.000 Okay, we'll start there.

00:23:51.000 All of them, every single one who saw him, because it was one of them, made a mistake.

00:23:55.000 Okay, next up.

00:23:57.000 An hour later, he was spotted again utilizing this rangefinder.

00:24:01.000 He flew a drone!

00:24:03.000 All of the Secret Service and local law enforcement forgot their policy on drone usage at presidential events at that moment.

00:24:10.000 Instantly, they had amnesia.

00:24:12.000 I'm sorry, there's too many questions that can't be answered.

00:24:14.000 The simple solution no longer becomes a crazed 20-year-old with a custom drone, with GPS spoofing to bypass FAA restrictions, or the FAA didn't put up a no-fly zone, he was able to fly this hours in advance, he had explosives and remote triggers, Secret Service didn't secure the building, didn't put up a block to break line of sight.

00:24:32.000 The police encountered him numerous times and let him go.

00:24:35.000 The simple solution right now is law enforcement was aware of his presence and allowed him to do it.

00:24:41.000 That makes the least amount of assumptions in this regard.

00:24:43.000 And then when you ask what the technology he utilized to get there, it's almost like...

00:24:47.000 I'm sorry, if you're going to ask how a 20-year-old had a drum that could bypass these fly restrictions, or how he had explosive remote triggers, there's too many assumptions to be made there.

00:24:58.000 The simple solution is, they were given to him.

00:25:01.000 Yeah.

00:25:01.000 Blake, I wonder, since you were there at the rally, if you can tell us what police, law enforcement presence looked like that day.

00:25:07.000 I mean, was it, you know, you've been to a lot of rallies, was it the same as usual?

00:25:10.000 Did it seem less?

00:25:11.000 I mean, what's the insider's take?

00:25:14.000 From what I saw it all seemed pretty much according to all the other rallies I've been so I went to actually bypass the turn off a little bit went through try to get in the early the easiest way that was blocked off and so I had to backtrack a little bit it was tough to get to the parking but I did not really spend much time outside the venue.

00:25:34.000 Now, I approached the venue from the south.

00:25:36.000 That's where the parking was.

00:25:37.000 They had a lot of vendors.

00:25:38.000 It was very typical.

00:25:39.000 I did notice, because this was at a small airfield adjacent to it, and I did notice a few buildings like hangars and stuff like that, but I didn't, you know, I didn't feel like it was unsafe.

00:25:48.000 When you went through the scanning, the magnetometers at the beginning, the only thing that was different is that the Secret Service was doing all of the searching.

00:25:57.000 Now normally at these rallies is that the TSA will do the initial screening of your bag and then the Secret Service will man the magnetometers and then do the wanding.

00:26:06.000 But at this one, the Secret Service was also doing the searching of the bag and I thought it was better because they actually searched my boots, which I've never had done at a rally before.

00:26:17.000 So in my mind, the initial screening getting into the venue was even better than ever.

00:26:21.000 It was more thorough.

00:26:22.000 Absolutely, yeah.

00:26:25.000 And I don't know if that was just a change, but then when I flew out of Pittsburgh the next day, two and a half hour wait at the TSA screening.

00:26:33.000 So Pittsburgh airport, closest one where you'd have a lot of TSA agents.

00:26:37.000 I think they've got something going on there.

00:26:39.000 That might be why there were no TSA agents at this rally.

00:26:42.000 I have no real reason for that.

00:26:44.000 So then once I'm in the venue and I got there, you know, as soon as they opened it up to the public, Everything that I saw was basically according to plan.

00:26:53.000 I didn't see anything that was really deficient compared to other rallies.

00:26:58.000 Not at all.

00:26:59.000 Interesting.

00:27:00.000 It is interesting to me that you're saying Secret Service was doing their job they don't normally do.

00:27:05.000 You know, again, I would have a similar instinct to you.

00:27:07.000 This makes it safer.

00:27:08.000 This means it's more thorough.

00:27:09.000 I'm also thinking about, you know, So, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:27:13.000 has now been granted Secret Service protection, but we're within that 120-day window where every major political candidate is supposed to have Secret Service protection.

00:27:22.000 Now, of course, it's unusual because we have President Trump, who already had it, and Biden, who is, of course, already protected by the Secret Service.

00:27:28.000 But in some ways, I wonder if it could have... I think if I were in your position, I would have written it off as like, oh, we're just getting closer to the election.

00:27:35.000 They're just being more cautious.

00:27:36.000 Yeah, it was just something I noticed, and I didn't assign any reason to it, but honestly, they checked to make sure there was nothing in my boots, and that's never happened before.

00:27:44.000 Was there anything off?

00:27:45.000 Was there anything else strange about that event or that day, too?

00:27:48.000 Nothing at all.

00:27:49.000 Nothing at all.

00:27:51.000 And this is the standard type of setup that they've had for outdoor rallies.

00:27:54.000 So even the setup was very similar.

00:27:56.000 You've got the standard stage.

00:27:59.000 The ramp goes up to it's either on the left or right.

00:28:01.000 It's never straight to the bleachers.

00:28:02.000 You've got the bleachers in the back, which is the backdrop where all the people that you see when you're looking at those standard, you know, media television feeds that are shooting directly at the president, showing people in the background.

00:28:14.000 Then you had the flanking bleachers on either side with the jumbotrons above it.

00:28:18.000 So maybe for an outdoor rally to have the two jumbotrons, they were both pretty large.

00:28:24.000 So it seemed like maybe that was a little bit different.

00:28:25.000 Sometimes they only have one.

00:28:27.000 But they were putting up the illegal immigration chart.

00:28:29.000 Exactly.

00:28:29.000 Right.

00:28:30.000 Right.

00:28:30.000 So speech.

00:28:31.000 Correct.

00:28:31.000 So also what you're saying means I'm just thinking the Secret Service would have searched Crooks's bag.

00:28:37.000 Crooks was not inside the venue.

00:28:38.000 Okay.

00:28:39.000 Crooks is outside the venue.

00:28:40.000 So this is this is something that came from completely outside the venue.

00:28:43.000 He was not inside.

00:28:44.000 It never made sense to me.

00:28:45.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:28:46.000 He did get searched.

00:28:48.000 They found the rangefinder and reported it.

00:28:50.000 Yeah.

00:28:50.000 Yeah, I thought he had been admitted to the rally.

00:28:52.000 They called him a suspicious individual, and the Secret Service called him over and said, we got to keep an eye on him.

00:28:56.000 He could have gone in, gone back out.

00:28:58.000 I mean, we don't totally know what his path was around because, you know, in reality, I don't really understand why the second they were like, this guy seems to be raising red flags, they didn't have a plainclothes officer following him.

00:29:10.000 I mean, if they did, that person clearly Well, I wasn't aware that he was searched.

00:29:16.000 So you're saying he was searched because... Yes.

00:29:17.000 That's what he reported.

00:29:18.000 They found it and let him in with it.

00:29:22.000 Why would he go into the venue?

00:29:23.000 He wasn't in the venue.

00:29:24.000 He wasn't in the secured perimeter of the inner venue.

00:29:26.000 He was.

00:29:27.000 He was in the secure venue, and he locked eyes with the snipers, and then he left the secure area, and that's when the... Went to his car, and then... Why would you even need a rangefinder?

00:29:38.000 Why wouldn't you just pull up Google Earth and do it that way?

00:29:41.000 I mean, does he really need to have, like, a range accurate to 10 yards for any kill?

00:29:45.000 They're shooting.

00:29:47.000 He's reporting for himself.

00:29:49.000 Well, you don't need that.

00:29:51.000 If they knew he was going to be there, law enforcement knew he was going to be there, and law enforcement was helping him do this, then they'd give him the best tools possible to do whatever it is he was going to do.

00:30:00.000 Why wouldn't they just tell him what the range was?

00:30:06.000 I suppose if they said, we're going to put a mark on the roof and you can utilize that mark, here's what your range is going to be, maybe.

00:30:10.000 Maybe he didn't know for sure what spot he was going to be from.

00:30:15.000 He didn't know exactly where on the roof he would be.

00:30:15.000 Yeah.

00:30:17.000 I have no idea.

00:30:18.000 All I know is the idea that a 20-year-old flew a drone hours in advance, was spotted by law enforcement numerous times, Uh, identified as a threat by Secret Service.

00:30:30.000 They still allowed Trump to come out.

00:30:31.000 That the Secret Service didn't secure the building.

00:30:33.000 That Secret Service then lied and said that law enforcement was supposed to do it.

00:30:37.000 Law enforcement then denied that.

00:30:38.000 Secret Service says, well, it's because the roof was sloped.

00:30:40.000 Makes no sense.

00:30:41.000 Multiple local police and Secret Service were aware of him.

00:30:44.000 He was a threat.

00:30:45.000 And they allowed Trump to go out on stage.

00:30:47.000 None of it makes sense.

00:30:49.000 There's only one explanation.

00:30:51.000 They knew... I mean, let's just, as simple as possible.

00:30:57.000 That's it.

00:30:57.000 They stood down.

00:30:58.000 They stood down.

00:30:59.000 Somebody said, leave this kid alone. 0.84

00:31:01.000 Perhaps.

00:31:02.000 Let them operate.

00:31:03.000 Because you would think, if anyone, first of all, it's bananas to me that you'd see, oh, right, they made you check your boots.

00:31:09.000 I was going to ask, did your boots set off the alarm?

00:31:12.000 Because they didn't make us check shoes here.

00:31:12.000 No.

00:31:14.000 No.

00:31:17.000 I just want to push back on that a little bit.

00:31:19.000 In aviation accidents, there's a theory called the Swiss cheese theory of how accidents happen.

00:31:25.000 And it's when a number of different factors need to align to allow something to occur.

00:31:30.000 Basically, there's built-in safety factors, but if something happens here that allows something to happen here, and they all line up perfectly, then a tragedy can happen.

00:31:39.000 At this point, I feel that's what we're looking at.

00:31:46.000 Humans are fallible, mistakes were made, and in addition, I believe there could be structural failures in the way that messages to the police get to the Secret Service.

00:31:58.000 Is there a delay there?

00:32:00.000 Because I understand that the Secret Service is going to have its own internal comms, and they're not going to share that with local police.

00:32:07.000 So they've got to have somebody in the middle, a man in the middle, who takes the local police reports and gives it out to the Secret Service.

00:32:14.000 What is the delay of that process?

00:32:16.000 Secret Service knew ten minutes before Trump went out, there was a threat identified.

00:32:21.000 The normal procedure is to keep Trump in the holding room, which is what they have.

00:32:25.000 And this is Dan Bongino, who worked Secret Service.

00:32:27.000 This is his assessment.

00:32:29.000 Two minutes before shots were fired, people were screaming, he's got a gun, he's got a gun.

00:32:32.000 And they knew.

00:32:34.000 But those were people outside the venue.

00:32:36.000 No, the sniper team was looking directly at him and allowed him to take the shots.

00:32:39.000 Four different teams.

00:32:40.000 They were allowing him to take the shots against the president.

00:32:42.000 Not one of them said, get Trump off the stage.

00:32:44.000 That's it.

00:32:45.000 Single sentence.

00:32:46.000 There's no simple solution there!

00:32:50.000 You can't have wishful thinking here.

00:32:51.000 You can't give the government the benefit of the doubt.

00:32:54.000 I did see a report that there was originally supposed to be snipers from the local police on that roof.

00:33:00.000 And they've denied that and said that was Okay.

00:33:01.000 a lie and that local police was only for traffic control.

00:33:05.000 And when has the Secret Service ever given up the principal vantage point to non-Secret Service?

00:33:11.000 When the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago, and they had in their documents that use of lethal force was

00:33:16.000 authorized and a contingency plan, the explanation was that the conflict there was Secret

00:33:23.000 Service controls firearms in most areas when they're present, restricting other law

00:33:28.000 enforcement agencies from brandishing firearms, because if a shot is fired, they need to know who

00:33:32.000 it was coming from, and they need that communication specifically within their branch or

00:33:38.000 their division.

00:33:39.000 In this instance, the idea then that Secret Service would say, there's a roof with direct line-of-sight to the President.

00:33:45.000 What's normal protocol?

00:33:46.000 Again, this is Dan Bongino, not me.

00:33:48.000 Bongino says, if you can't secure the location, you break line-of-sight.

00:33:52.000 He went on to explain how, in one instance, they had a vantage point they couldn't secure, so he said, buy fake snow and spray out the windows.

00:33:59.000 That will turn any shot fired from this location into a random shot.

00:34:03.000 Still bad, but better than a direct line of sight.

00:34:05.000 In this instance, Secret Service did not secure a building.

00:34:09.000 And if you look at the security perimeter, people are making the joke they call it the security Pac-Man perimeter, because it cuts out this one building, which makes no sense.

00:34:17.000 So, the police's own staging area, that's where they were staging, they encounter a guy numerous hours in advance.

00:34:25.000 So, I'm sorry, if you expect to believe that three hours in advance he was flying a drone.

00:34:33.000 He was spotted by law enforcement with a rangefinder.

00:34:36.000 He was identified as suspicious an hour in advance.

00:34:40.000 Twenty-six minutes prior, he was identified by local law enforcement and Secret Service.

00:34:45.000 Ten minutes before, and they upgraded him to a threat, still allowed him to come out.

00:34:50.000 Two minutes before the shot was fired, two minutes and one second, people are screaming, he's got a gun, at cops.

00:34:56.000 He's on the roof, he's got a gun.

00:34:59.000 In what reality?

00:35:00.000 They never broke line of sight?

00:35:02.000 They did not secure the rooftop?

00:35:04.000 How could you argue that all of these things are accidents?

00:35:10.000 That's what the whole Swiss cheese theory is about.

00:35:13.000 A series of unrelated, low probability events that somehow align to allow something to happen.

00:35:20.000 Now I'm not saying that it can't be When you hear hooves, you don't think zebras, you think horses.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, what I'm saying is, I'm not saying it can't be that.

00:35:30.000 I'm just saying, to me, at this point, the most likely explanation is human failure.

00:35:34.000 And that is called, you are hearing hooves and you're calling zebras.

00:35:42.000 Well, hopefully the comms will get out.

00:35:44.000 Hopefully we'll get the Freedom of Information Act.

00:35:46.000 Do you think they'll release their comms?

00:35:47.000 Because I'd like to hear that.

00:35:50.000 I don't think they'll release the Secret Service comms.

00:35:52.000 Because remember, they're not going to give us anything in an investigation that's going to compromise the way that they do their protection.

00:36:00.000 And I don't think that they should.

00:36:01.000 So we have to realize beforehand that we're not going to get all the facts.

00:36:06.000 We're only going to get the facts that don't expose the methods that they use for protection.

00:36:09.000 But do you trust the government to investigate itself?

00:36:13.000 I don't trust the government to investigate itself.

00:36:17.000 Not all aspects of it.

00:36:18.000 But at the same time, I recognize that there's just no realistic way that I can expect that we're going to get all... I just hope we get them sooner than 75 years with Kennedy.

00:36:26.000 Let's make sure we include the contemporary context outside of the event in the political landscape, and that is, why did Tucker Carlson I know we can say Alex Jones predicted an assassination attempt, but a lot of people don't like Alex Jones.

00:36:38.000 Well, no, no, Tucker Carlson.

00:36:39.000 Well, a lot of people don't like him, but he's in a different area.

00:36:42.000 Why did both of these men predict there would be an assassination attempt on Donald Trump?

00:36:47.000 Well, it's because all of the things that have been lining up politically, attempts to put him in prison were failing, attempts to destroy his businesses were failing, And what did we see just before, on July 13th?

00:36:59.000 Well, unfortunately, for Trump's political enemies, who use fake laws and fake statutes that don't exist in any codified statute, to try and put him in prison.

00:37:08.000 This is one of the first times, there's been a few times in US history, I would say at the federal level, probably happens a lot at the local level because of corruption, where a government has declared a person guilty of a crime without due process, It happens, let me rephrase this, at a high level.

00:37:24.000 I'm sure it happens at the local level all the time.

00:37:26.000 Someone gets thrown in jail for no reason.

00:37:28.000 Donald Trump was convicted of a crime that was beyond the statute of limitations because the court told the jury Trump was guilty of another crime which he's never been tried for.

00:37:38.000 And they didn't specify what it was?

00:37:40.000 And if you agree that there was a crime, even though you don't have to agree on which crime, then he's guilty of this crime beyond a statute of limitations.

00:37:46.000 This was an attempt to put Trump in prison on July 11th.

00:37:50.000 Everybody expected something big to come with the Supreme Court immunity ruling.

00:37:55.000 Most analysts said they're going to rule, he does have immunity for official duties, and the question of January 6th will be kicked back to the lower courts.

00:38:04.000 It has not been answered.

00:38:05.000 What no one expected, however, was that Roberts and the justices who ruled in Trump's favor also added.

00:38:11.000 Official acts cannot be used as evidence of wrongdoing as well.

00:38:15.000 That caught everybody off guard.

00:38:16.000 All of a sudden, Trump's team files an immediate appeal on the hush money case saying the evidence they used took place during Trump's presidency and contains his official duties.

00:38:28.000 The sentencing is postponed.

00:38:29.000 They're going to win that one.

00:38:30.000 Donald Trump was supposed to be sentenced on July 11th, two days before the assassination attempt.

00:38:35.000 Because of a surprise in the Supreme Court ruling, he was now free to attend the RNC and name his VP pick.

00:38:42.000 Two days before, the stars aligned in every imaginable way, nailing Tucker Carlson's prediction.

00:38:49.000 Now if you want to play this game where it's like Tucker Carlson is a madman who for no reason was screaming into the wind that someone was going to try and take the life of Donald Trump, Sure.

00:38:58.000 The reality is, Tucker Carlson analyzing the political landscape, understanding history, understanding the motivations as well as the actions, the unprecedented actions that have been taken against Donald Trump...

00:39:10.000 would likely lead to a scenario where someone make a move on his life.

00:39:14.000 He was attacked mercilessly by the corporate press for making such a claim.

00:39:17.000 When it happens, I don't think it's fair to say Tucker was completely wrong about everything

00:39:21.000 he said.

00:39:22.000 Every attempt they've made to destroy the life of Donald Trump and his family was all

00:39:26.000 it all stopped that day.

00:39:28.000 And it was just it just happens to be that a random 20 year old walked through a piece

00:39:32.000 of Swiss cheese and every a loaf of Swiss cheese and every imaginable hole to get on

00:39:36.000 a rooftop unsecured that the Secret Service lied about flying a drone.

00:39:39.000 Dude, there's... look.

00:39:41.000 Occam's razor.

00:39:43.000 The simple solution.

00:39:44.000 They have waged every possible attack against Donald Trump, and by they I mean powerful corporate interests or special interests.

00:39:50.000 I don't know exactly who.

00:39:51.000 But there have been political interests trying to destroy the life of Donald Trump.

00:39:54.000 We all suggested they would never stop.

00:39:56.000 I completely agree with that.

00:39:57.000 You're 100% correct.

00:39:59.000 How could all of that lead up to this point and then go, lucky 20-year-old who was crazy?

00:40:04.000 It is fascinating that, you know, I don't think anyone really believes the idea that Thomas Crooks acted alone.

00:40:10.000 It just seems like this is something that was more complicated than his skills that we know about right now seem to indicate.

00:40:15.000 But either it was, you know, if you if you believe this was a larger conspiracy, it's either conducted within the federal government or it's conducted by, you know, I would argue the alternative would be progressive groups in the country that are trying to Or who are incited to fear, I would argue, by President Biden's rhetoric, because he constantly references political violence.

00:40:36.000 This was sort of his prediction forever.

00:40:37.000 I mean, what's really fascinating, and you were kind of alluding to this too, is like, We actually can't pull Secret Service.

00:40:44.000 Like, it is this one organization that has to just continue on.

00:40:47.000 I mean, even every moment after Trump was continuing to be protected by the Secret Service, we talked about the fact that Director Cheadle was at the RNC.

00:40:55.000 And in large part, that's because this is like a huge event that a lot of her agency is staffing.

00:41:00.000 And in a different year, at a different time, we probably wouldn't have even known she was there.

00:41:03.000 I think a lot of people wouldn't even know her name.

00:41:05.000 But now we have to ask ourselves, Is this the agency that is responsible?

00:41:08.000 Is this a human failure?

00:41:09.000 Is there a conspiracy?

00:41:10.000 Is this a progressive group that somehow has influence?

00:41:13.000 I think that's the biggest issue here, which is that the American people don't know and they are just trusting that eventually this will get resolved when really we see this happen all the time.

00:41:23.000 We don't get answers and it gets shoved under the rug.

00:41:25.000 Now, the problem for the Biden administration is that it's looking very likely that Trump is going to be elected.

00:41:30.000 And I don't think anyone, once Trump is in the White House, is going to let this investigation fall by the wayside.

00:41:35.000 He's going to unseal everything.

00:41:38.000 Could you imagine?

00:41:39.000 It's not even his buddy.

00:41:41.000 It's him.

00:41:41.000 They took a shot at him.

00:41:43.000 If I were him, I would spend all four years trying to get to the bottom of it.

00:41:51.000 It would be like a running thing the entire time while I'm there.

00:41:53.000 It would be the number one most important thing.

00:41:55.000 So, I don't know.

00:41:57.000 Tucker made a great point.

00:41:58.000 He said this may be one of the crimes that actually is solved because of all of the, I'm adding this, all of the egocentric individuals in Congress who think they will be president.

00:42:08.000 If there is no answer to this, it may be them one day at a podium with a bullet whizzing past their head.

00:42:13.000 The JFK assassination was a big message to all the Americans that were paying attention to what's really going on here.

00:42:19.000 To Tim's point, the character assassination didn't work.

00:42:22.000 The legal lawfare didn't work.

00:42:25.000 So what makes you think, when they took so many extraordinary measures to stop Donald Trump, that they wouldn't take the ultimate step and try to take his life?

00:42:32.000 That's my question to you guys.

00:42:34.000 They're prosecuting, currently right now, Trump's lawyers.

00:42:37.000 They haven't stopped.

00:42:38.000 You know, Jenna Ellis lost her mind crying on camera apologizing for the work she did as a lawyer. 1.00

00:42:44.000 And my understanding, I could be wrong about this, but isn't she getting prosecuted again in Wisconsin? 0.99

00:42:48.000 Is it Wisconsin or is it Arizona?

00:42:50.000 I think it's Wisconsin.

00:42:51.000 Wisconsin was the new one where the states were bringing new charges, and so I'll pull this one up in a second to make sure I'm getting it right.

00:42:59.000 John Eastman lost his license for giving legal counsel to the president.

00:43:03.000 It's crazy.

00:43:04.000 It's also interesting to me that Josh Hawley, I think, is the one who said, we've had whistleblowers come forward from the Secret Service, from DHS, talking about the staffing issue.

00:43:14.000 So to your human failure, I think there are a lot of factors at play, and I think human error is one of them.

00:43:21.000 Because I think that the agents who protect Donald Trump are pretty devoted to him, it seems like.

00:43:25.000 Let's just talk about something practical.

00:43:28.000 How tall is Donald Trump?

00:43:29.000 6-3-ish?

00:43:30.000 What use is a 5-4 secret service agent in protecting Donald Trump?

00:43:34.000 And I'm not saying, you know, I'm just, maybe that's not the right person to have to screen out view of the president.

00:43:40.000 It's just logical, right?

00:43:41.000 She was white.

00:43:43.000 Lucas!

00:43:44.000 Okay, alright, you know, I see what you're saying there, but...

00:43:48.000 Yeah.

00:43:48.000 But no, listen, that one, just to be fair too, she was technically not on his Secret Service detail, if we're talking about the same woman.

00:43:56.000 She apparently just, the one that's getting crushed right now in the media. 0.93

00:43:59.000 Right, for not being able to holster the weapon.

00:44:01.000 She was not, there was a woman though, there was one agent, and I want to say this, alright, from my standpoint, ten yards away, when I looked at the podium after the first set of shots rang out, All the Secret Service members that I saw, I thought were acting as quickly as possible, without any regard for their safety, doing exactly what they were trained to do.

00:44:28.000 Now, can you expect perfection in that moment, even though they drill for it constantly?

00:44:32.000 No.

00:44:33.000 But those guys were on it.

00:44:36.000 They were, you know, you can see from the video, I don't think there's anything deficient in any of the behavior.

00:44:42.000 Except for the fact that they knew there was a threat identified and they let Trump leave the holding area?

00:44:46.000 I am talking on stage.

00:44:48.000 They let Trump, during an active situation, address the crowd and stand up during an active shooter.

00:44:53.000 How did a shot get off?

00:44:54.000 So Tim, what I'm saying is the Secret Service agents that I saw who are right in the box there, right by the stage, those are the people I saw.

00:45:05.000 I can't believe that they are all... someone's telling them what to do.

00:45:09.000 They're not responsible for threat assessment.

00:45:12.000 And I'm not a Secret Service agent, and I don't know, but my assumption is that their primary responsibility is protecting the President, or their protectee in the case of an attack, and scanning the crowd.

00:45:24.000 So when the four sniper teams that were on the roof spotted the guy with the gun before a shot was fired, why didn't they say, secure the President?

00:45:32.000 But that is not the people that I saw.

00:45:34.000 Sure, I get that, but that doesn't mean anything.

00:45:37.000 I just want to say, the people that I saw, I felt they acted as quickly as they could.

00:45:42.000 The people who are on the stage around the president, they were not deficient.

00:45:49.000 They were absolutely deficient.

00:45:51.000 Unquestionably. 0.97

00:45:51.000 They couldn't even cover Trump's body because the women were too small. 0.97

00:45:54.000 And that's not even an indictment of their abilities.

00:45:56.000 They assigned to Donald Trump individual human beings who are not large enough to provide him body cover.

00:46:02.000 But they did try.

00:46:03.000 That is poor planning, and I did allude to that.

00:46:08.000 The other part is the sniper teams, right?

00:46:10.000 So, like, we have the agents who are on the ground.

00:46:12.000 Lauren Bovert said, you know, the women there, or at least one of them, wasn't originally signed to this.

00:46:16.000 I know Eric Trump has said he has worked with her.

00:46:18.000 You know, I think you're right.

00:46:19.000 Like, people who rush the stage and who put themselves in the line of fire, like, that is commendable.

00:46:24.000 And I do believe that those agents probably don't have the same information.

00:46:27.000 That's someone who is, like, supposed to be analyzing the crowd does.

00:46:30.000 But with the sniper teams, I guess this all comes down for me, like, what is the structure of the Secret Service?

00:46:36.000 Because there is Trump's detail that, you know, goes everywhere with him.

00:46:39.000 And then there are extra forces that are sent in to different events based on where they are, right?

00:46:44.000 So the sniper teams, I assume they don't necessarily all go to the same rallies.

00:46:48.000 I assume that there are different people who are assigned at different times.

00:46:50.000 Like, The communication breakdown within the Secret Service seems to be one of the big things that we'll probably never know about, and I can understand why the Secret Service will claim, like, well we can't tell you what we do, we can't tell you our protocols because we're currently protecting people.

00:47:04.000 And correction, Wisconsin did not charge Jenna Ellis, it's Jim Troupas and Kenneth Chaseborough who were charged June 4th with forgery.

00:47:13.000 So even if you plead, these people were pleading guilty, In other states.

00:47:19.000 They're not going to stop coming out.

00:47:20.000 You plead guilty, now every state's going to open up against you.

00:47:24.000 We're at a point in American history, call it whatever you want, where if you're a lawyer who is providing your legal services, which is an individual's constitutional right, You are now a criminal.

00:47:35.000 We are looking at... I mean, the documents case got thrown out because they improperly appointed a private citizen to go after Donald Trump.

00:47:39.000 They didn't have authority to do that.

00:47:41.000 The sexual assault charges against Donald Trump could only have been brought after a special law was passed to reopen 30-year-old statute of limitations.

00:47:49.000 The civil fraud charge had a victim who claimed not only were they not victims, Donald Trump never defrauded them, and they wish to do business with him in the future.

00:47:59.000 They still convicted Trump, uh, found him liable, I should say, not convicted.

00:48:03.000 And then you have the Hush Money case, where it was a misdemeanor beyond its statute of limitations, that they upgraded to a felony, claiming that Trump committed a secondary crime, but they never, through due process, proved that Donald Trump committed any secondary crime, yet they still convicted him of it.

00:48:18.000 All of these things are dramatically unprecedented.

00:48:21.000 I totally agree with you on all of that.

00:48:24.000 You're 100% right.

00:48:25.000 And then you think after Trump beat them all, they said, that's it guys, Trump has won, time to pack it in.

00:48:30.000 And then after all of that, a 20-year-old who hated Donald Trump got lucky walking through this Swiss cheese of failures to take a shot at the president.

00:48:38.000 That is what I think, yes.

00:48:39.000 I can get you a good deal on the Brooklyn Bridge if you're interested.

00:48:42.000 I'm just telling you, to me, that's the... So why'd they stop?

00:48:47.000 Why did they stop after everything?

00:48:50.000 I mean, you've got Feds on record saying... I don't think they've stopped.

00:48:54.000 But Bricks would think so. 0.50

00:48:55.000 You've got Feds on record saying they're going to flee the country if Trump wins.

00:48:59.000 So these people in federal... Let me ask you a few questions.

00:49:02.000 I asked this a couple nights ago.

00:49:04.000 First, do you think Trump Derangement Syndrome is real?

00:49:07.000 Yes, I do.

00:49:08.000 In some individuals, yes.

00:49:09.000 Certainly, certainly.

00:49:10.000 It exists and some people have it.

00:49:12.000 Do you think that some of these people... Some of those people are on MSNBC, too.

00:49:16.000 Do you think some of these people want Trump to die?

00:49:18.000 Absolutely.

00:49:19.000 Is it possible that any of these people have jobs in federal government?

00:49:23.000 Statistically, yes.

00:49:24.000 So the probability actually is fairly strong, especially considering we know that federal law enforcement agents have already given statements to the press that they will flee the country or they fear they must if Trump wins.

00:49:36.000 Is it possible then that someone working in federal law enforcement who feels they have to flee the country is terrified to the point where they would assist in some kind of action against Donald Trump in this regard, especially considering they raided his home?

00:49:49.000 I mean, these unprecedented things?

00:49:50.000 Again, statistically, yes.

00:49:52.000 More statistically, yes, than a 20-year-old bypassed all of the security for hours and flew a drone of the president.

00:49:58.000 My feeling remains that it would take more than one person to create all of the openings that happened at the rally.

00:50:08.000 Well, you'd have to have the staffing issues.

00:50:11.000 I'm just, no, again.

00:50:12.000 How many law enforcement identified this?

00:50:15.000 So here I am, like, I'm talking about my assessment, and I just want to be clear that I have no background in this.

00:50:22.000 But I would assume that there isn't one person in charge of assigning the police, of reporting the calls from the police to the Secret Service Department.

00:50:31.000 I'm assuming there's not one point of failure, so there have to be multiple points of failure.

00:50:37.000 So how many police officers identified the suspect as a threat before the shots were fired?

00:50:43.000 I think right now, with the reporting, it's four or five.

00:50:43.000 I don't know.

00:50:46.000 Is that more than one person?

00:50:48.000 But they acted upon it.

00:50:50.000 No, they didn't.

00:50:52.000 They act upon it in the minimum fashion of saying, hey, there's a weird guy, and then doing nothing.

00:50:56.000 Not one Secret Service agent, they had four teams, it's been reported, four sniper teams for the Secret Service, saw the guy, not one of them said, pull Trump.

00:51:06.000 That's multiple people who are standing by and doing nothing.

00:51:10.000 By all means, if you want to make the argument that law enforcement are a bunch of drones who can't take any actions without a central authority figure, then the argument would be, why was there no central command to instruct upon learning that there was a threat?

00:51:21.000 More importantly, ten minutes before Trump got on stage, Secret Service has a holding zone for him.

00:51:26.000 Why, knowing Secret Service reported a threat, did they allow him to walk out?

00:51:30.000 More than one Secret Service agent would have had to have understood what was going on.

00:51:34.000 It's possible that there's one...

00:51:36.000 And when you ask me the question about is it possible there's somebody, you know, in the government who has those

00:51:40.000 feelings who would act upon them, and I say yes, but I believe there's more... I would

00:51:45.000 believe that there has to be more than one person.

00:51:48.000 So when you're talking about low probabilities times two times three people, you end up with an even lower possibility.

00:51:55.000 But I think you're wrong.

00:51:56.000 But you're saying it's a Swiss cheese of all of these lucky instances that happened by chance that allowed him to get through.

00:52:02.000 I think that's exponential failure.

00:52:03.000 That makes no sense.

00:52:05.000 I think that instead of government is absolutely capable of exponential failure.

00:52:08.000 And this is why I cite Occam's Razor.

00:52:10.000 You're deciding that it's more likely that someone would win the lottery than they would find a $5 bill on the ground.

00:52:16.000 I'd make the argument that it's more likely you find the $5 bill on the ground because it happens every day, probably tens of thousands of times a day in this country, whereas we go weeks or months or half a year without anyone winning the lottery.

00:52:28.000 It's more likely to find the $5 bill in Ukraine.

00:52:31.000 That's true too.

00:52:32.000 In this regard, I say Simple solution, the one that makes the least amount of assumptions, is that I am not going to speculate that this kid won the lottery that day.

00:52:44.000 I'm going to say, we know for a fact he flew a drone over a rally, which is insane.

00:52:50.000 That right off the bat has my head spinning.

00:52:52.000 Because I've done work with drones.

00:52:54.000 I have consulted the government.

00:52:57.000 I don't understand.

00:52:58.000 We have Ukrainians using drones to drop bombs on Russians. 0.89

00:53:03.000 How could someone launch a drone at a Trump rally without them being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, and freaking out?

00:53:08.000 It's insane to me.

00:53:10.000 And so if you want to make the argument, When the news first broke, we were like, how could this have happened?

00:53:15.000 And it was, there was an unguarded rooftop.

00:53:18.000 Now we're like, how is that roof unguarded?

00:53:20.000 But we're well past that.

00:53:21.000 Now we're at, they identified the shooter, well in advance.

00:53:24.000 They saw him with a rangefinder, highly suspect.

00:53:26.000 They upgraded him to a threat, still allowed Trump on stage.

00:53:30.000 Two minutes before, they identified him with a rifle on a rooftop, law enforcement did, and not a single person did anything to protect the president.

00:53:37.000 I'm sorry, you'd have to think the moon was made of cheese to believe those were accidents.

00:53:43.000 I don't know.

00:53:43.000 I've seen TSA work.

00:53:44.000 They're pretty incompetent.

00:53:45.000 I'm kind of with you on the government is not great.

00:53:49.000 And what Viva called this fractal wrongness, you are once again making the argument that the highly improbable lottery winning happened instead of individuals let it happen.

00:54:00.000 I'm actually not making art.

00:54:01.000 What I think the problem is, like, we're all going to speculate all day long, and we're all going to want to know, but the reality is, like, we have very little information.

00:54:08.000 The information about the drone is coming from the Wall Street Journal.

00:54:10.000 Like, nothing is actually coming from the government, and nothing is coming from, you know, in a consistent rate.

00:54:17.000 This is a very strange situation.

00:54:19.000 I'm open to all kinds of possibilities.

00:54:21.000 There's no official story, but you don't give the government the benefit of the doubt.

00:54:25.000 There is no official law enforcement story.

00:54:32.000 Let's do a hypothetical here, okay?

00:54:35.000 One of the root problems is that nobody is going to trust any set of facts.

00:54:39.000 Hypothetically, if we found out everything that actually happened and it was the 100% incontrovertible truth and could be presented to the public, wide segments of the public would still disbelieve it because of their lack of trust in government.

00:54:55.000 So even with all the facts being actually correct, they will be rejected.

00:54:59.000 I'm just saying a hypothetical.

00:55:02.000 The government doesn't have anything to do with a set of facts.

00:55:05.000 So what I'm saying is, if the facts involve the government, there will be people, it doesn't matter what they are, if you told them exactly what happened, there would be people who disbelieve it.

00:55:18.000 So the issue at hand is, What are the source of the facts, and what is the evidence to back up those statements?

00:55:25.000 And people will still disbelieve it, even given the evidence, and still coming from the government.

00:55:30.000 I've got to pause right there.

00:55:31.000 The government as a source of information is immaterial to what we're talking about.

00:55:36.000 We don't just say, the government said it, therefore it's true.

00:55:38.000 But that's hard, though, right?

00:55:39.000 Because, like, I mean, I don't know who the Wall Street Journal is citing, right?

00:55:43.000 And I trust the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times more than I trust the government.

00:55:45.000 But what if they're citing someone from the government?

00:55:47.000 Like, this is, like, how deep the low-trust society can go.

00:55:50.000 We don't know where our information is coming from.

00:55:52.000 We don't know, you know, if it's a local law enforcement.

00:55:54.000 We know that they have pushed back against the Secret Service.

00:55:56.000 Like, I think you're right.

00:55:59.000 One of the biggest challenges we have in America is how low-trust we are, and this situation is only exacerbating it.

00:56:04.000 Fair point.

00:56:05.000 Law enforcement is the source for the Wall Street Journal that they allowed this to happen.

00:56:08.000 But you remember, like, Cheadle threw local law enforcement under the bus, and I have a little bit more sympathy for the local law enforcement, who the federal government is trying to be like, you guys are in charge of that thing, and it's not our fault, when they're like, no, no, we're not in charge of this.

00:56:21.000 There's so much conflicting information.

00:56:23.000 One more point on this, because we're going to segue into the same story, but with an update, or in a similar vein.

00:56:29.000 I want to stress, we do not have an official assessment yet.

00:56:32.000 Within days of 9-11, on that day, on 9-11, they said it was Osama bin Laden, They knew. 0.69

00:56:38.000 They were saying it on the news.

00:56:40.000 On the news, right away.

00:56:41.000 We had an official story as to what happened and how it happened.

00:56:44.000 I'm not saying it's right or wrong.

00:56:45.000 I'm just saying this seems to be the tendency for big stories.

00:56:48.000 We get information.

00:56:50.000 We are now going on a week with no official story.

00:56:54.000 They've not told us how it happened, the motivation, where the kid came from, how we got the weapons, how we got the explosives.

00:56:59.000 There is no official story.

00:57:01.000 The public is left to just make guesses.

00:57:04.000 It's crazy.

00:57:05.000 It's been nearly seven days.

00:57:06.000 Don't they know where he got the rifle?

00:57:08.000 His dad.

00:57:08.000 Right, so they know that.

00:57:09.000 But there's no official narrative.

00:57:13.000 So, I'll put it this way.

00:57:15.000 They've not come out with a kid who was radicalized in the mountains of Afghanistan, went to an airport, walked onto the plane using box cutters, told the passengers here's what we're going to do, and then flew the plane.

00:57:26.000 They're saying I mean, we just found out he flew a drone.

00:57:30.000 It's a week on, and now they're reporting he also flew a drone.

00:57:33.000 We're getting bits and pieces.

00:57:35.000 We don't know when he showed up.

00:57:37.000 We don't know how long he was there.

00:57:38.000 We don't know... There's no official through-line from the government and law enforcement to say, at 11.43 p.m.

00:57:46.000 he arrived in a Toyota Corolla and parked in the east parking lot.

00:57:51.000 Upon... None of that.

00:57:52.000 We have no official story yet.

00:57:54.000 It's strange.

00:57:55.000 It doesn't mean much, but all we have then is the public to collect the bits and pieces of information that's coming out and ask questions about how this could be possible.

00:58:03.000 But I want to jump to the story.

00:58:05.000 Daily Mail reports MSNBC host Joy Reid should be fired for her Trump assassination conspiracy theory, furious Americans say. 0.93

00:58:13.000 I don't know if she should be fired.

00:58:14.000 I think MSNBC should be sued for three trillion dollars or GDP of France.

00:58:19.000 And the family of Cory Komprator, Donald Trump, and the other two victims should be entitled to $3 trillion, which of course may be unreasonable, so we can settle with $1.5 billion from MSNBC and Joy Reid personally.

00:58:31.000 I mean, that's the precedent, right?

00:58:33.000 I would love to see that.

00:58:36.000 I would love to see that.

00:58:36.000 And I feel like Joy Reid has less hair every time I see her.

00:58:39.000 Now she's just given up and shaved it. 1.00

00:58:44.000 No, she's got hair there. 1.00

00:58:44.000 It's just hard to see because it's blown out of the lighting. 1.00

00:58:47.000 Right.

00:58:47.000 Yeah.

00:58:48.000 OK.

00:58:48.000 Well, the black Superman shirt, too.

00:58:52.000 Anyway, yeah, she's growing increasingly unhinged.

00:58:55.000 She's one of those people that Tim mentioned earlier is definitely bummed he missed.

00:59:00.000 Like he she is like, yeah, she's like at home crying, like upset, thinking that her dream like and then she's going and making these unhinged videos.

00:59:11.000 She's saying he wasn't even shot.

00:59:13.000 Implying that conspiracy theory that Trump.

00:59:15.000 Yeah, they're saying it was a hoax.

00:59:16.000 Remember that clip we watched earlier in the week where she was saying for some reason he was allowed to stay on stage and take that photo like she just hates this moment.

00:59:23.000 Part of it is they really hate Donald Trump and anything that can possibly be good for him, you know surviving an assassination attempt, rallying a crowd in support, having an iconic photo like they just can't stand it.

00:59:34.000 Having a competent 15 year old granddaughter who's able to express herself They went after her, too.

00:59:40.000 You're right.

00:59:42.000 They can't handle anything good about this man.

00:59:44.000 They always have to demonize him.

00:59:45.000 That girl's gonna be a big star one day, too. 0.99

00:59:47.000 You just tell.

00:59:49.000 I thought that the RNC, you know, first day aside, I thought the RNC was actually a big testament to family.

00:59:56.000 I thought we saw that with the Trumps and the Vance's and a couple different people, you know, had, I can't remember her name, but the mom who came up and talked about her son who died of a fentanyl overdose.

01:00:04.000 I mean, there was a really strong Remembrance of how sacred and how important the family is throughout this and it makes me think in contrast of you know So many, you know, liberal progressive icons who are sort of like alone Childless, they hate when other people are happy and in some ways I feel like Joy Reid, you know, I don't you know, I don't watch a lot of her content I watch MSNBC regularly.

01:00:27.000 Yes, you love her.

01:00:28.000 I do watch MSNBC regularly.

01:00:30.000 See, you flipped.

01:00:31.000 You gotta get your conscience somewhere.

01:00:33.000 Yeah, and like with Joy Reid Everyone around her probably cheers her on when she says something more and more extreme about Donald Trump.

01:00:40.000 But this person is influential.

01:00:41.000 You just said that she hates Donald Trump.

01:00:44.000 There's people within the government that listen to her, that essentially are preached to her, believe what she believes in.

01:00:50.000 The government has been pretty ruthless against Donald Trump.

01:00:54.000 And I kind of want to bring this back.

01:00:55.000 What makes you think that they somehow will stop at a certain level In order to, of course, not try to stop Donald Trump.

01:01:04.000 What do you think is the barrier that's holding them back from committing this ultimate action that they've been kind of leading up to themselves?

01:01:13.000 Like, what's the barrier there that's making you believe that at this time they stopped being ruthless, they stopped being evil, at this time they stopped making these aggressive steps against Donald Trump?

01:01:26.000 My personal belief would be like, if I thought that that was going to be happening, there's no point in going on in an orderly discourse within society.

01:01:35.000 You've got to make some assumptions, and one of the fundamental assumptions you've got to make is that there is still rule of law, by and large, in America.

01:01:44.000 And even though President Trump, I believe, has been charged unfairly.

01:01:47.000 How many times has he been indicted?

01:01:49.000 And I said that right there.

01:01:50.000 Even though he's been charged unfairly, that's from a different aspect.

01:01:54.000 I mean, you can do all your scheming and all your things about, we're going to pass this legislation, we're going to pass this, we're going to go at him with lawfare.

01:02:03.000 But when you go into the realm of we're going to do physical acts of overt violence, that's a whole nother level because it's no way is it even defensible from a legal standpoint.

01:02:14.000 You can't do that and get away with it.

01:02:16.000 So you've got to at least believe that that much of America is left and worth fighting for because if you don't, you're already living in anarchy.

01:02:26.000 Do you remember what happened during Black Lives Matter?

01:02:28.000 We are in an anarcho-tyranny, 100%.

01:02:31.000 What about the Summer of Love?

01:02:32.000 What about all the people that died?

01:02:34.000 Three dozen people died during the Black Lives Matter protests that were engineered by the corporate media.

01:02:39.000 They take lives very easily.

01:02:40.000 They're taking lives in Ukraine right now. 0.79

01:02:43.000 They took lives in Iraq.

01:02:44.000 They took lives in Syria.

01:02:45.000 They took lives in Libya.

01:02:47.000 They openly do take lives very easily.

01:02:51.000 If you're talking about the ability of corporate media by and large to set a narrative by framing certain things in a certain way to demonize people, I 100% agree with you.

01:03:03.000 But I don't think that that means... that is not the same as taking direct action.

01:03:08.000 That's priming the pump and hoping somebody pops off.

01:03:12.000 That's not the same as planning it.

01:03:13.000 The FBI has admitted that on tape, like James O'Keefe got them to admit.

01:03:17.000 They basically admitted, like, oh, sometimes we make a little social media post and we give them a little bump, is what that guy happily told whoever he's trying to hook up with that night.

01:03:27.000 I think it's a tough spot.

01:03:29.000 I don't want you to be the guy who's here to officially fight against that.

01:03:37.000 I think it's respectable to stay away from taking the black pill because the alternative is really sad.

01:03:46.000 I still believe now.

01:03:48.000 Even I'm trying to be like, I really wish... I really want more information.

01:03:54.000 I really want... I do believe that there is a chance, even if it's super small, that the Swiss cheese theory is true.

01:04:03.000 But we don't... It ignores contemporary context around the actions they've taken against Donald Trump already.

01:04:08.000 True, but 0.0001 is still a chance.

01:04:12.000 And then if it's 0.01, In the other direction, then why settle for the more extreme and unlikely scenario?

01:04:19.000 In my estimation, I flip those odds.

01:04:24.000 I think the conspiracy theory is the .00001, and the Swiss cheese is the .01.

01:04:30.000 I think that that's more logical to me.

01:04:33.000 We're looking at different sides of the same razor.

01:04:35.000 You think it's more likely... We're looking at different sides of the same razor.

01:04:38.000 You think it's more likely that Secret Service identified a guy three hours prior,

01:04:43.000 he was flying a drone around, that's law enforcement reporting,

01:04:48.000 that he was identified suspicious with a rangefinder...

01:04:51.000 He was spotted 26 minutes, an hour, 3 hours before, an hour before, 26 minutes before, 10 minutes before he was upgraded to a threat.

01:04:57.000 Not one law enforcement thought to hold Trump unprecedented.

01:05:00.000 They have a holding zone for this.

01:05:02.000 So let's talk about, let's count the amount of coincidences.

01:05:05.000 Let's do, they identified him and said nothing.

01:05:07.000 Three hours.

01:05:07.000 One.

01:05:08.000 He flew a drone.

01:05:09.000 They said nothing.

01:05:10.000 Now that one's crazy.

01:05:11.000 An hour out, nothing.

01:05:13.000 26 minutes out, nothing.

01:05:14.000 10 minutes out, nothing.

01:05:15.000 When did they discover that he flew the drone?

01:05:18.000 I don't know.

01:05:18.000 Well, if they didn't discover it until afterwards, you can't put that into the equation.

01:05:22.000 Okay, so let's change it.

01:05:23.000 Let's change the equation.

01:05:24.000 A drone was flown over a rally and law enforcement didn't notice.

01:05:28.000 How about that one?

01:05:30.000 How did that happen?

01:05:31.000 It doesn't actually matter if you guys agree, though.

01:05:33.000 In fact, Don Jr.

01:05:34.000 just tweeted, he was blocked by Secret Service for flying a drone at his own house in Mar-a-Lago because his dad was there.

01:05:41.000 And it's Don Jr.

01:05:43.000 trying to fly a drone.

01:05:44.000 How did a strange kid do it?

01:05:45.000 So let's just do that.

01:05:46.000 You're right, we don't know when they finally figured out he flew the drone.

01:05:49.000 How is it that when Don Jr.

01:05:51.000 tries to fly a drone on his own family's property, he can't do it?

01:05:54.000 He's got a newer drone.

01:05:56.000 He's got a new drone?

01:05:57.000 Yeah, he's got a newer drone that has the blackout.

01:05:58.000 No, no, he said Secret Service stopped him personally.

01:06:00.000 He said Secret Service stopped him from flying a drone.

01:06:02.000 Right, because he's got the one with the blackout.

01:06:03.000 I'm not a drone expert, but you said yourself.

01:06:04.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:06:05.000 He's saying an individual, he said the Secret Service stopped him from flying a drone.

01:06:09.000 That means a person.

01:06:10.000 Oh, so it wasn't a blackout.

01:06:12.000 Right.

01:06:15.000 How is it that Don Jr.

01:06:16.000 can't fly a drone at his own property, but a gunman can fly a drone at a presidential rally?

01:06:21.000 I don't know.

01:06:22.000 I'm not going to speculate.

01:06:24.000 From the very beginning, I've said that I want to wait until all the details come out as much as possible, and I hope that they don't take 75 years to come out.

01:06:33.000 Speculation before that is going to be operating on an incomplete set of facts, which is, of course, something that you can engage in.

01:06:41.000 But I prefer to wait until the entire report is done and knowing full well that when that report is completed and presented, that there will be many people who don't believe a word of it.

01:06:53.000 Then how do you come to the conclusion that the idea that all of these security failures was not a coincidence?

01:06:59.000 How do you make an assessment on its probability?

01:07:01.000 Because I believe the bulk of the people who protect the president are...

01:07:04.000 You're speculating.

01:07:05.000 And that's why I said I believe.

01:07:07.000 I believe that the bulk of the people who protect the president are fundamentally good

01:07:11.000 and are patriots, and that they will discharge their duties to the highest ability of their

01:07:17.000 capabilities.

01:07:18.000 And so I do not believe...

01:07:20.000 So that's an emotional...

01:07:21.000 That's emotional, not based on facts.

01:07:22.000 So that's a conspiracy theory.

01:07:26.000 But that's not based on any facts, you're just saying I personally feel a way, so I think I'm going to choose to think this thing.

01:07:31.000 I don't think it's based on a conspiracy theory, because I don't think it's based entirely on my feelings, because I've got to believe that the Secret Service has some sort of internal... Yeah, that's an emotional argument again.

01:07:42.000 No.

01:07:43.000 Yes, it is.

01:07:44.000 You have to believe that.

01:07:45.000 It's an emotional argument.

01:07:46.000 It's not based on fact.

01:07:46.000 Can I finish a sentence?

01:07:47.000 Sure.

01:07:47.000 Okay.

01:07:48.000 That they have some form of internal screening process that looks at the people, and much the way you have to have your top-secret clearance renewed, they must have some sort of evaluation process that's looking at their agents.

01:08:01.000 Speculative.

01:08:02.000 And if they don't, they should probably have one.

01:08:05.000 Okay, so we don't know in that regard, so what's your assessment based on then?

01:08:09.000 It's emotional.

01:08:10.000 We don't know what their internal screening process is, that's not part of the equation.

01:08:13.000 We do know that Dan Bongino, who is a good source, who was in the Secret Service, has already called out numerous unprecedented errors in this.

01:08:22.000 Errors?

01:08:24.000 I can tell you this.

01:08:25.000 Anomalies, we'll call them anomalies.

01:08:26.000 So I have not been following...

01:08:28.000 I've been engaged as a delegate from California.

01:08:30.000 I've been involved in the RNC since this occurred.

01:08:33.000 So I have not been tracking this as much as possible.

01:08:36.000 Did Dan say that those could only occur through a deliberate error?

01:08:42.000 Did he say that could be accidents or they could only happen if somebody allowed it to happen?

01:08:46.000 What did Dan say?

01:08:47.000 I don't think he said one way or the other.

01:08:49.000 I think he pointed out you don't release the president when you've identified a threat.

01:08:53.000 We have a holding room for this.

01:08:54.000 Agreed.

01:08:54.000 So how is it possible then that all of these law enforcement agents, for one, how do we have the dispute between law enforcement and Secret Service as to who is supposed to be guarding the building?

01:09:04.000 By all means, we can argue that each and every one of these things is an anomaly, and it was sometimes people in the lottery.

01:09:11.000 If that's the case, Occam's Razor suggests that is the improbable outcome, as you described it, the Swiss cheese of failure, that you can move through.

01:09:19.000 There's actually a really simple straight line, and it's that they identified the individual, and there was some official capacity that allowed it to happen.

01:09:27.000 That's actually two steps.

01:09:29.000 That could be one logistics officer.

01:09:32.000 When the Secret Service calls in and we got a threat, they say, it's taken care of, don't worry about it.

01:09:35.000 That sentence from one high-ranking official would shut down all of the normal procedures of Secret Service.

01:09:41.000 That makes infinitely more sense and is a higher probability than Swiss cheese.

01:09:46.000 Except for the one where the... that answers all the questions except for why did the snipers not... because they don't need permission to shoot, right?

01:09:53.000 So when the snipers saw him two minutes out, why didn't they shoot?

01:09:56.000 Well it could.

01:09:57.000 Imagine this scenario.

01:09:59.000 One person, in an official capacity, who has logistic functionality, is told by local law enforcement.

01:10:05.000 We saw a suspicious guy.

01:10:06.000 Don't worry about him. We're good. We know.

01:10:10.000 three hours out he's flying a drone all we're good okay

01:10:14.000 Again, speculative, because we don't know that they knew he flew the drone.

01:10:19.000 They may have discovered that after the fact, so that may not have happened.

01:10:22.000 And then we'll shift into the more obscene and absurd improbable scenario that no one noticed a drone flying over the president and had no explanation for it, which is, if that were true, One of the most highly anomalous.

01:10:35.000 No one noticed a drone flying over a presidential rally.

01:10:38.000 Now that's crazy!

01:10:38.000 Because I've been to a dozen, you've been to a dozen.

01:10:41.000 I mean the idea that law enforcement wouldn't spot a drone flying over a presidential rally is patently absurd.

01:10:47.000 So my point ultimately is...

01:10:49.000 Twenty-six minutes out, we got a suspicious guy on the roof.

01:10:52.000 Official logistical officer in the Secret Service says, we're aware of this, we're on it.

01:10:57.000 This keeps every individual compartmentalized and unaware of what's going on.

01:11:01.000 You don't need every single person to know.

01:11:03.000 Why didn't the snipers open fire?

01:11:05.000 Because the logistic officer said, we got local friendlies on that roof.

01:11:09.000 And they go, okay.

01:11:10.000 The official story was that the snipers on the roof didn't know if the person they were seeing was a local law enforcement or otherwise.

01:11:17.000 Which says to me, the likelier scenario is that.

01:11:21.000 Someone in an official capacity was telling people everything was fine.

01:11:25.000 And the simplest solution is, we're in a room right now with like ten doors.

01:11:30.000 I mean, like seven.

01:11:31.000 If I was to instruct security to guard each door, each individual officer following my logistical commands would not know who was guarding the other door.

01:11:39.000 If I said, Jeremy, you're going to be on the back door, Jeremy doesn't know where Luke is.

01:11:43.000 Everyone thinks the doors are guarded, but I intentionally leave that door in front of us unguarded.

01:11:47.000 And then I tell everybody when they say, hey, we're seeing a weird guy.

01:11:49.000 No, no, we're well aware of it.

01:11:51.000 Then, the door kicks open and the guy bursts in and throws water balloons at everybody.

01:11:55.000 How does that happen?

01:11:56.000 One person kept everyone compartmentalized.

01:11:59.000 One person.

01:12:00.000 That makes infinitely more sense than random kids slipped through Swiss cheese in every conceivable way.

01:12:05.000 Well, what you're talking about there is a process, I think it's called de-confliction, you know, where there's supposed to be police on the roof from one agency, the snipers who have overwatch from the Secret Service have to make sure that the person there is not that force.

01:12:22.000 So in that case, all it takes is you're supposed to have somebody on that roof, you don't put anybody there, and somebody then goes on that roof.

01:12:30.000 No, no, no.

01:12:31.000 It's infinitely worse than that.

01:12:32.000 The shooter was identified ten minutes prior as a threat.

01:12:36.000 Outright secret service protocol.

01:12:37.000 Keep Trump in the holding zone until threat is cleared.

01:12:39.000 How did that bypass?

01:12:40.000 A logistical officer said, guys, we've taken care of it.

01:12:43.000 A single word from someone in official capacity and they say, Trump, you're good to go.

01:12:47.000 Problem solved.

01:12:49.000 That makes infinitely more sense than... Again, I still want to wait for the entire report to come out.

01:12:53.000 And that's absolutely fine.

01:12:55.000 I'm saying right now, we have not been given any official timeline of events.

01:12:59.000 It's only coming out in pieces, and we're trying to figure out what makes the most sense based on what we know now.

01:13:03.000 Of course...

01:13:04.000 We can't trust the government as an official source, and that's a fair point.

01:13:06.000 Therefore, I can back off the drone thing, because it's coming from official law enforcement sources.

01:13:11.000 What we can say is most of the media is basing this off law enforcement sources.

01:13:14.000 However, there is a lot of eyewitness testimony, and people on the ground who gave first-hand witness, plus the video we all watched.

01:13:20.000 The video, the synchronization.

01:13:22.000 So, what we know for sure, two minutes before the shots were fired, two minutes and one second, people were screaming, he's on the roof, he's got a gun, in full view of the police.

01:13:31.000 And there was no action taken two minutes to just calmly walk Trump off the stage, and that in and of itself is shockingly anomalous.

01:13:39.000 Now, I do think it's fair to say we know of the 10-minute threat assessment because the law enforcement officially told that to members of Congress, who then reported it in a public letter to the public.

01:13:50.000 I think it's fair to say that's their official position.

01:13:53.000 What is the answer?

01:13:54.000 They didn't give one.

01:13:55.000 They said, 10 minutes prior we knew of the threat, we brought Trump out anyway.

01:13:59.000 Okay, right away, you've got an official anomalous action.

01:14:04.000 They knew there was a threat against the president, was never cleared, and they released him.

01:14:09.000 At the bare minimum, that is criminal negligence.

01:14:12.000 Bare minimum.

01:14:13.000 It really reminds me of all those feel-good videos, where it's like a high school football team, and there's like one special needs kid, and then like they all pretend like they're trying to score the touchdown.

01:14:23.000 That's probably what happened.

01:14:27.000 Because every time I see this guy, I'm like, this guy?

01:14:30.000 And you saw the reports from someone who was like, he didn't make the rival team.

01:14:33.000 No, it's not just that he didn't make the rival team.

01:14:34.000 He was so bad, we asked him not to come back because it was dangerous.

01:14:38.000 Yeah, it's crazy. 0.94

01:14:38.000 But he was practicing the day before, and that's why some people are calling him retarded. 0.94

01:14:43.000 But personally, I'm lactose intolerant for Swiss cheese, personally, myself.

01:14:47.000 But I don't believe that theory.

01:14:48.000 But you're a milk guy, though, from earlier, I think I remember.

01:14:53.000 I thought you said you liked milk.

01:14:54.000 I think it's fascinating that... I don't know the joke, but it must be good.

01:15:00.000 Who do you think killed JFK?

01:15:04.000 We'll find out.

01:15:06.000 It's not so much who killed him, but who set up the person who killed him.

01:15:10.000 So you don't think that it was just Lee Harvey Oswald in and of himself?

01:15:13.000 In the case of JFK, I do not believe so, yes.

01:15:16.000 Why would this be any different?

01:15:18.000 Especially considering with JFK, we didn't have a year to eight years of, I mean, they accused Donald Trump of being a traitor to his country and tried to put him in prison and impeach him in his first term.

01:15:29.000 This is substantially more extreme than what JFK went through.

01:15:34.000 I don't think any reason I'm saying the reason I believe about JFK is the bulk of all the findings that have come out because the full body of evidence that we are that we have also taking into account what we don't know and inferring what that could be already exists.

01:15:50.000 We do not have that body of evidence in the current case.

01:15:53.000 So I think it's premature to assume that it is some form of conspiracy.

01:15:58.000 I think it's the other way around.

01:15:59.000 I think when we're beginning an investigation, we take the pieces that we have together and we begin our investigation with a hypothesis which may turn out to be wrong.

01:16:07.000 Tim, I think in this case we're just looking at the same glass of water and I think it's half full.

01:16:12.000 Oh, I disagree.

01:16:13.000 I think for political reasons you're refusing to say what's obvious.

01:16:16.000 That's not true at all.

01:16:18.000 I mean, I think that with all of these issues that have happened to Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson's prediction, it is an absurdity to try and just say right now the likely scenario is accident.

01:16:30.000 It's like, this has been... Now what I'm saying is that that is my assumption and I am waiting for the report.

01:16:37.000 Right.

01:16:38.000 It's betting on the long shot.

01:16:41.000 I don't think it's the long shot.

01:16:43.000 Well, let's shift the story anyway.

01:16:45.000 Otherwise, we're just going on circles.

01:16:46.000 We have this from the Post Millennial.

01:16:47.000 Mark Zuckerberg praises Trump as a badass after assassination attempt.

01:16:51.000 Seeing Donald Trump get up after getting shot in the face and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of those badass things I've ever seen in my life.

01:16:59.000 Yeah, subtitle.

01:17:00.000 Immediately donates $200 million for the file.

01:17:04.000 That may be the only thing Zuckerberg said recently that I agree with.

01:17:06.000 Mark Zuckerberg is trying so hard to save Facebook, right?

01:17:09.000 He's rebranding himself.

01:17:10.000 He's now saying he's sympathetic.

01:17:10.000 He's in trouble.

01:17:12.000 He's saying he's not going to weigh in.

01:17:14.000 You know, Facebook will continue to keep political stuff out of people's feeds because they don't like it.

01:17:18.000 But I'm not going to endorse a political candidate.

01:17:20.000 I really think this is an effort to try and, you know, he realizes basically a lot of Trump supporters still use Facebook?

01:17:26.000 No, Zuckerberg is in trouble.

01:17:27.000 Zuckerberg realizes that he gave hundreds of millions of dollars to the Democratic machine before, and now he realizes the Zuckerbucks are going to be finally recalled under a Donald Trump administration, and he's now trying to save face and trying to, of course, not get hit as much as a lot of people. 0.67

01:17:45.000 I think you're all wrong.

01:17:46.000 I think Mark Zuckerberg started exercising, which made him conservative.

01:17:50.000 MMA.

01:17:50.000 He started to do jiu-jitsu.

01:17:51.000 He did do on that hydrofoil skiing or like something with the American flag recently, right?

01:17:55.000 That's right.

01:17:56.000 Have they made any political... Wakeboarding or whatever it was.

01:17:58.000 No, he's just trying to grift into winning back conservatives.

01:18:01.000 I think it's true that Trump posting that thing the other day being like, Zuckerberg, Zuckerbucks, watch out, is probably a calculation on some level.

01:18:08.000 But, you know, he is struggling.

01:18:10.000 I mean, to be fair, there were a lot of conservatives who were like, we should ban TikTok.

01:18:14.000 And you know who benefits if we ban TikTok?

01:18:16.000 Facebook and Meta.

01:18:17.000 I actually think in all seriousness, Luke is correct.

01:18:19.000 Mark Zuckerberg made a huge bet against Donald Trump.

01:18:21.000 Trump is extremely offended by it.

01:18:23.000 Trump is on track to be president.

01:18:24.000 Zuckerberg knows it.

01:18:25.000 And Trump is going to drop the hammer on Facebook.

01:18:28.000 Facebook has a lot of infrastructure with WhatsApp, Instagram, and of course Facebook, but also a lot of other side projects that they're working on, especially when it comes to VR, especially when it comes to artificial intelligence.

01:18:38.000 And truly, I do believe the next president will be deciding the future of the digital world.

01:18:45.000 Especially when it comes to AI development.

01:18:47.000 So Mark Zuckerberg understands that he's in absolute trouble.

01:18:51.000 And you know that AI is going to basically coalesce under three or four companies that have, you know, and he wants Facebook to be at the front of the line for that.

01:19:00.000 Do we know if he posted this on Threads?

01:19:02.000 I keep getting told that the monthly actives on Threads are enormous.

01:19:04.000 I keep getting told that the monthly actives on threats are enormous.

01:19:09.000 I don't believe it.

01:19:10.000 No one believes that.

01:19:11.000 No, no.

01:19:12.000 There's no way.

01:19:13.000 Wasn't there just a headline that there were 200 million active users?

01:19:15.000 All of that is struggling, and I think there are probably a lot of reasons for Mark Zuckerberg

01:19:21.000 Zuckerberg has a lot of skeletons in his closet.

01:19:24.000 Sorry.

01:19:25.000 But he also spies on people.

01:19:27.000 He also fortified the election.

01:19:29.000 He also manipulated the algorithms.

01:19:31.000 He committed a lot of illegal actions that he soon could be held accountable for.

01:19:35.000 Sorry, Hannah, I cut you off.

01:19:36.000 My name is Hannah Clare.

01:19:36.000 Go ahead.

01:19:37.000 I can't believe you can't get that after three years.

01:19:38.000 You should be concerned.

01:19:41.000 No, I mean, I really think that Mark Zuckerberg is attempting to save himself for a variety of reasons.

01:19:46.000 I do think that Meta as a business really needed conservative support to get rid of TikTok to continue to be viable because they're just hemorrhaging engagement.

01:19:55.000 And I'm sure Mark Zuckerberg is worried about the legal consequences of his influence in the election.

01:20:00.000 You know, every major social media company in America has colluded with the federal government, especially under Biden.

01:20:06.000 And so, you know, there is a level of like they are all realizing that there is a changing of the guards that's imminent.

01:20:14.000 And it is fascinating to watch him because the other part is some of this.

01:20:18.000 He could be saying, oh, Trump was Trump was a badass and it was so cool and whatever else.

01:20:23.000 But he didn't have to get a new haircut and wear a chain and change his style, right?

01:20:27.000 Like, he is really trying to shift away from the image he had in the past because he was so weird and not cool.

01:20:33.000 He looked so different from his, like, congressional hearings, where he looked like a literal robot.

01:20:37.000 There's also, to add on to what you're saying, Hannah Clare, is also... Thank you so much.

01:20:37.000 Yeah.

01:20:44.000 Zuck has some problems with photographs on both of his platforms that has basically gone kind of unpunished.

01:20:54.000 He's got a major, whatever the acronym is, I don't want to get Tim in trouble, but you know, photos of people that shouldn't be on there.

01:21:01.000 And it runs rampant on Instagram and it runs rampant on Facebook and he's pretty much, unless I'm wrong, he's pretty much avoided any kind of major backlash for that.

01:21:10.000 What I think is interesting about his appearance is that when those photos came out of him looking like an android with pale skin and short hair, he had a visceral reaction to that, which makes me wonder if there's something internal to humans where they can recognize like a masculine failure.

01:21:25.000 So, for what reason would he, the billionaire and, you know, one of the richest men in the world, have to grow his hair out, grow a beard, get a tan, start exercising?

01:21:34.000 Start training jujitsu, MMA.

01:21:35.000 Regardless of what other people think, he individually felt something was wrong with him.

01:21:39.000 Yeah, and who do we contrast him to?

01:21:41.000 Elon Musk, who got hair plugs as soon as he could.

01:21:43.000 I mean, it's fascinating.

01:21:44.000 We all want to look young.

01:21:46.000 Right, we all want to look young and healthy and protect fic, but also Silicon Valley now has this, you kind of have to be cool.

01:21:53.000 I mean, Elon Musk is setting the bar to be an influential person in a way that Mark Zuckerberg just never captured.

01:21:59.000 Elon Musk as a brand is infinitely preferable to Mark Zuckerberg as a brand.

01:22:04.000 And Mark Zuckerberg as a brand was very much linked, I think, with the Democratic Party and trying to be like, well, I'm not cool, but look, I'm active in a way that, you know, I think of like beta male woke guys are like, but I might not be good looking or strong. 0.97

01:22:16.000 They both suck compared to Tom. 0.91

01:22:17.000 Tom's my guy. 0.99

01:22:18.000 Tom, is he still one of your top six?

01:22:21.000 I never took him out.

01:22:23.000 Tom's the original OG cool guy.

01:22:25.000 Yeah?

01:22:26.000 He made a site, he sold it, got paid.

01:22:29.000 Retired.

01:22:30.000 He's a photographer now.

01:22:32.000 Yeah, he just goes and does whatever he wants.

01:22:33.000 He's a winner.

01:22:34.000 That's what he is.

01:22:35.000 Well, I actually... Nah, I've got no criticisms for him.

01:22:35.000 Absolutely.

01:22:38.000 He jumped ship.

01:22:38.000 He bailed.

01:22:40.000 I mean, nobody knew what was going to happen to these platforms, so he just sold.

01:22:43.000 But then Fox immediately... I think he sold to Murdoch, right?

01:22:45.000 Yeah, and they tanked it.

01:22:47.000 Yeah, it got sour.

01:22:48.000 It was loaded with ads.

01:22:49.000 It became sluggish, and you started getting spam from everybody, and it was like, we can't use this platform anymore.

01:22:54.000 The spam is really what killed Myspace.

01:22:56.000 Yeah.

01:22:56.000 I think so.

01:22:57.000 I used to, that inbox, I used to, like, crazy.

01:22:58.000 Like, I was like, oh, people, I used to network, and, like, I was, when I was in a band back then, we'd, like, we'd have, like, our band page where you could set, like, your three or four songs on there, and then, like, I'd use it to network like crazy, and then it just, it was like LinkedIn now.

01:23:10.000 LinkedIn's suffering that same fate.

01:23:14.000 Famously, the band, for those that aren't familiar, started a band, a profile, I think this was before there were even bands on Myspace, and started messaging people saying, hey, check out our band.

01:23:23.000 That was fine.

01:23:24.000 But then, it worked, and everyone started doing it, and all of a sudden your inbox was full of garbage, and you couldn't even see your friends' messages anymore.

01:23:32.000 Facebook said, we don't have none of that, and that's why I switched.

01:23:35.000 Me and my friends were like, I can't even get your message anymore, dude, and they were like, we'll switch to Facebook, they have like a chat feature, and I was like, okay.

01:23:40.000 Yep, that was about right.

01:23:42.000 I think social media in Silicon Valley must be such a weird world, right?

01:23:45.000 Because you're always trying to, you'll at one moment be sort of the golden kid.

01:23:49.000 You create this thing, everyone loves it, Facebook blows up.

01:23:52.000 But inevitably, whatever's popular right now, especially in terms of tech, will fade away.

01:23:56.000 I mean, you said this once, you know, a family member had asked him, how long are you going to do this?

01:24:00.000 He's like, well, I, potentially, podcasting could be not around forever.

01:24:06.000 The desire to stay relevant is innate both to the human condition, but also to technology.

01:24:12.000 And I wonder how much of Mark Zuckerberg's previous dialogue he'll change in order to try and stay in the minds of both consumers and also in the favor of whatever politicians are taking over.

01:24:23.000 He has a PR team, he has a marketing team, they're telling him, okay, you gotta make

01:24:26.000 these steps, you gotta look like this, you gotta do this.

01:24:28.000 He's in trouble, because if I'm Donald Trump, I'm checking the receipts, and I'm like, how

01:24:32.000 much did you spend to fortify this election?

01:24:35.000 Oh, you spied on how many J6ers? 1.00

01:24:40.000 What kind of psychological studies?

01:24:42.000 You twisted the algorithm here?

01:24:43.000 Or you worked with the feds here?

01:24:46.000 He's taking those notes, and Facebook is in major trouble, especially if Donald Trump

01:24:51.000 becomes the next president of the United States.

01:24:53.000 Luke, do you remember those series of pictures that Zuckerberg posted years ago, where he

01:24:56.000 was on a tractor, or gutting fish, or doing all these semi- ... Look at me, I'm human

01:25:03.000 He was smoking when he was, like, grilling in his backyard.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, like, oh yeah, oh yeah, like, mmm, smoking some meat, sweet baby rays.

01:25:09.000 Yeah, even the video was weird, yeah.

01:25:11.000 But, you know, like, but beyond that.

01:25:12.000 He loves smoking that meat.

01:25:14.000 Do any of you disagree with the premise that getting shot and then standing up and shaking your fist in front of the American flag is badass?

01:25:22.000 Do you agree with that?

01:25:22.000 No, I think it is.

01:25:23.000 And I actually think that, like, I watched this random Irish influencer do a reel and she, you know, nothing to do with politics at all in her regular life, but she was like, look, I normally hate Trump, but even I, and she's got a very thick Irish accent, she's saying like, but I can't, I can't.

01:25:38.000 Do it, Hannah.

01:25:39.000 Do it. 0.99

01:25:40.000 Are you that low IQ? 0.99

01:25:41.000 You can't get my name right. 0.82

01:25:42.000 I'm very worried about you.

01:25:44.000 I got you.

01:25:45.000 The thing is that she was saying even I was like, yeah, let's go America.

01:25:50.000 And she has nothing to do with this country.

01:25:51.000 And she's openly hates Donald Trump.

01:25:53.000 I mean, I think that really was an iconic moment, which is why people like Joy Reid have such a visceral, like, no, you can't like this reaction.

01:26:00.000 I like, as her TDS gets more, I like how she adopted his look.

01:26:05.000 Like, she hated him so much, she dyed her hair blonde, and then now, like, the hate is making her uglier.

01:26:10.000 Well, it's all she thinks about, I guess.

01:26:13.000 Yeah, it, like, eats these people up.

01:26:15.000 They're like Gollum.

01:26:16.000 They go from, like, this thing, they become obsessed with the ring, or T-Trump, and it ruins their life.

01:26:22.000 I mean, look at one woman on The View and tell me that that woman is happy.

01:26:26.000 There's not- they all hate their life.

01:26:28.000 There's no way.

01:26:29.000 They might go home to their mansions, they might go to- they all look miserable all the time. 0.99

01:26:34.000 Bill Maher looks miserable! 0.99

01:26:36.000 They're all drugged up. 0.61

01:26:37.000 And they're all getting- yeah, they gotta get baked to get through the day.

01:26:40.000 Every day.

01:26:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:41.000 On a whole bunch of antidepressants, on a whole bunch of, like, pharmaceuticals, on a bunch of illegal stuff.

01:26:45.000 You look at the upper echelons of society, there's a huge substance abuse problem that no one really wants to talk about.

01:26:52.000 We got breaking news from just a few minutes ago.

01:26:54.000 Oh boy.

01:26:54.000 Florida man charged over alleged written threats to kill Donald Trump and J.D.

01:26:58.000 Vance.

01:26:58.000 The arrest comes less than a week after the assassination attempt on Trump, which has led to scrutiny of the Secret Service and concerns about escalating political violence.

01:27:05.000 So, as Libs of TikTok starts pointing out all of the people who are calling for and cheering this on, by all means we can make the distinction between those who lament the miss and those who advocate for it, I think we're going to start seeing law enforcement go after these people.

01:27:20.000 In a, I don't know, in a shocking way.

01:27:23.000 A bunch of them are going to pop up, too.

01:27:25.000 Like, you're going to get reports.

01:27:26.000 This won't be the first.

01:27:27.000 And it's Facebook.

01:27:27.000 They say, after investigating the reports in the suspect's Facebook account, JPD detectives found that Wiseman had made multiple threats against Trump and Vance, who earlier in the week became the Republican nominees for the president and vice president.

01:27:39.000 Police did not provide further details about Wiseman.

01:27:41.000 NBC News was unable to reach him for comment.

01:27:43.000 The arrest comes less than a week after, blah, blah, blah.

01:27:47.000 People are gonna get arrested.

01:27:48.000 Facebook dropped the dime.

01:27:49.000 Facebook's worried now they're starting to rat out their own users.

01:27:52.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:27:55.000 I think this is likely, passively, somewhat libs of TikTok.

01:28:00.000 Either people are sending it to libs or finding it and posting these and other people are sharing it.

01:28:05.000 They say that Michael M. Wiseman arrested Friday on charges of written threats to kill.

01:28:09.000 Uh, they checked his Facebook.

01:28:11.000 Did they show it?

01:28:12.000 They don't show it.

01:28:13.000 Yeah, they don't show exactly what he said.

01:28:15.000 I'm willing to bet this was substantially more egregious than saying I wish or something.

01:28:19.000 However, I think the people who are saying next time X should happen or something should happen, like what Kyle Gass said on stage, they're going to get a visit from the Secret Service.

01:28:28.000 Because that's, when you say next time, you are saying it should happen again.

01:28:32.000 You're wishing for it.

01:28:34.000 Well, it's not an imminent threat.

01:28:36.000 So the legal standard is you say, go do this thing right now here.

01:28:40.000 Like if you said Donald Trump is currently here, go do thing.

01:28:42.000 That's imminent threat.

01:28:43.000 These people are saying next time it happens, they want it to succeed is a call to violence.

01:28:47.000 I think that violates the rules of these platforms.

01:28:50.000 Whether that will get people arrested, I don't know.

01:28:52.000 I think it would likely just result in a visit and they may actually.

01:28:57.000 Here's what might happen.

01:28:58.000 These people were posting publicly.

01:29:00.000 They wish it happened.

01:29:02.000 How much do you want to bet they have private messages where they're saying more direct things?

01:29:06.000 Law enforcement will get those, and that may be what happened.

01:29:09.000 This article also says Hannah Clare pulled off- Are you stealing the point I'm about to make?

01:29:14.000 Nice! 0.94

01:29:15.000 He's fired.

01:29:16.000 Well, I was going to say that the Jupiter police arrested him, and that makes him 20 miles north of Mar-a-Lago, according to WFLA.

01:29:16.000 Go ahead.

01:29:25.000 You got my point.

01:29:26.000 Do you want to also- No, my point is- Call him out, Hannah.

01:29:28.000 My point is- Are you okay?

01:29:30.000 Your memory is so bad.

01:29:31.000 You've known me for three years and you can't remember my name. 0.96

01:29:34.000 I think you should get your IQ checked.

01:29:36.000 I am desperately worried about you.

01:29:37.000 Sorry, keep going.

01:29:39.000 I refuse to use your pronouns. 0.70

01:29:40.000 It's too complicated for you?

01:29:42.000 You can't remember my name?

01:29:43.000 It's your pronouns.

01:29:43.000 I'm concerned, Lou.

01:29:44.000 It's Friday night, everybody!

01:29:45.000 Come on! 0.61

01:29:46.000 Alright, no.

01:29:47.000 What this report says is that multiple people that lived by him reported him to police.

01:29:54.000 So what you're going to see is more civilians saying, yo, this cat lady down the street, maybe he was on a Facebook like neighborhood page or something.

01:30:03.000 Those are my favorite, by the way.

01:30:05.000 Does he have something creepy in his yard hanging out there?

01:30:08.000 Yeah, he's got some effigies or something.

01:30:09.000 There is a level where I don't like the idea that we are like all monitoring each other and reporting each other to police.

01:30:15.000 On the other hand, imminent threats of violence are serious.

01:30:18.000 It's a very difficult balance to have.

01:30:19.000 As long as they don't start changing the definition of imminent.

01:30:23.000 As long as we don't go from like, ah rats, he missed. 0.97

01:30:25.000 Oh, you're just some tedious weirdo to like, well, you know what I mean? 0.98

01:30:28.000 Like calling for it. 0.95

01:30:29.000 I think they have to be very careful in defining what calling for it is.

01:30:34.000 And I wouldn't mind if they visited a couple of high profile people, because that's what you really have to do.

01:30:40.000 Like going after these randos, you just go after Kyle Gass, you go after like, you know, anybody with a following and then it, you know, you work smart, not hard.

01:30:49.000 Find a couple of these libs who are saying unhinged things, make an example of them, visit them, film them crying because they're having consequences, and then put it out there.

01:30:59.000 But I worry about pushing people underground, too.

01:31:02.000 I was just about to say that.

01:31:02.000 Correct.

01:31:03.000 Isn't that just going to teach people just not to post it but still think it?

01:31:05.000 People are allowed to think whatever they want.

01:31:08.000 They can think it, as long as they know that there's some consequence for it.

01:31:12.000 What I meant by it was, plan it without posting it.

01:31:16.000 You're right, anybody can think whatever they want.

01:31:18.000 This has been the federal government's wet dream for a long time.

01:31:21.000 Especially body cameras.

01:31:23.000 It's really funny, there was this viral thread from a leftist who was like, I just learned body cameras was actually police propaganda to trick leftists into supporting it.

01:31:32.000 Police wanted a mass surveillance network that would protect them and allow for faster convictions.

01:31:39.000 So how do you do it?

01:31:40.000 Get every cop to wear a camera.

01:31:42.000 It's not to put cops in jail to hold them accountable.

01:31:45.000 But they knew that if they came out and they said we want the government to spend millions of dollars on cameras for us for law enforcement purposes, the left would say the massive expansion of a surveillance state is bad.

01:31:55.000 We do not want police to have cameras.

01:31:57.000 So they said we have to approach this from the inverse.

01:32:00.000 We need the narrative to be police are bad, And they must be monitored so the cops have to wear body cameras to stop the bad guys.

01:32:07.000 And you'll get all of the left in major liberal cities demanding the government pay for it.

01:32:11.000 And it worked.

01:32:12.000 And Obama and many others demanded federal funding for body cameras.

01:32:17.000 And now most body camera footage is used as evidence against suspects.

01:32:21.000 Yeah.

01:32:21.000 I'm still glad it exists, though.

01:32:23.000 I know it makes me a fool, but, like, it has worked against cops several times.

01:32:28.000 Like, I think this should be in every classroom, too.

01:32:30.000 And it works more often.

01:32:32.000 Like, 99% of body camera footage cases are to the benefit of the police officers.

01:32:36.000 Is there a problem with that, though?

01:32:37.000 No.

01:32:38.000 I'm just saying that cameras never lie.

01:32:38.000 No.

01:32:40.000 When it comes to the online monitoring of people's opinions, We are entering a territory where before social media people thought these things.

01:32:47.000 Now they're saying them in public and they're crossing the line and getting arrested for it.

01:32:51.000 The answer, of course, is you made the choice to publicly declare, you know, a violent threat against the president.

01:32:57.000 Don't do that.

01:32:58.000 And now you're gonna go to jail for it.

01:32:59.000 I don't like that they're calling it a lot of people.

01:33:01.000 A lot of people on the right are like calling it or on the left are calling it doxxing.

01:33:05.000 It's not.

01:33:06.000 First of all, you posted it publicly on your Facebook page.

01:33:08.000 It's not like they included your home address.

01:33:11.000 What they're really talking about lives of TikTok, because it's her posts that are going viral, but she's not linking their address.

01:33:17.000 She's not, I mean, I'm, I know like we, I don't want to go back and rehash that out.

01:33:21.000 Like Tim and I mildly mostly agree on this, but like, I get queasy when we're like witch hunting people.

01:33:29.000 As long as it's a real direct threat, then I care less.

01:33:32.000 But if it's like, here's some TDS person and they make $11 an hour, let's screw their life over.

01:33:39.000 Home Depot?

01:33:40.000 The Home Depot one was weird.

01:33:42.000 I didn't think it was a direct threat.

01:33:44.000 I think that these are public.

01:33:46.000 You post it in public, that has consequences.

01:33:48.000 By the way, this is what the right has had to live by for years anyway.

01:33:51.000 Yeah, but there was one that Libs posted where the person said, they said something like, when this happened, I immediately was upset they didn't succeed, and then they posted beneath it, I shouldn't be feeling this way, I can't believe this man has made me begin to feel these feelings, it's wrong and I shouldn't be thinking this.

01:34:09.000 That's good.

01:34:10.000 And she got fired. 0.97

01:34:11.000 Or I don't know if she got fired. 0.85

01:34:11.000 She shouldn't get fired. 0.85

01:34:12.000 I don't know if she got fired, but I know Libs posted it. 0.96

01:34:14.000 Critical.

01:34:15.000 I think she did get fired. 0.93

01:34:16.000 And I'm like, a person saying, I should not be thinking these things should not be fired for that.

01:34:21.000 I agree.

01:34:21.000 Yeah, that's like a good, that's like a good thing.

01:34:23.000 That's cancel culture. 0.99

01:34:24.000 But also the real thing there, too, is like, to what extent do you, should employers prohibit their employees from expressing their political views outside of work.

01:34:36.000 So when you're being hired by a company that says, well, as soon as you make something that's actionable, we're going to let you go because of it.

01:34:45.000 That's not a place we should be either.

01:34:47.000 The issue is the question of reasonableness.

01:34:50.000 If a person says on Facebook, I like Donald Trump, he's going to help this country, they should not get fired or sanctioned for it.

01:34:57.000 Correct.

01:34:57.000 If a person says something like, I don't support gay marriage and I think children shouldn't get sex changes, they shouldn't get fired for it.

01:35:03.000 If a person says something like, I think this particular group of people should be excised from society, I have no problem if their business fires them for it.

01:35:11.000 The reason for it is, businesses have no requirement to absorb your political opinions.

01:35:18.000 And within reasonable limits.

01:35:22.000 During cancel culture, the issue I take is, a firefighter donated to Kyle Rittenhouse, they fired him for it.

01:35:27.000 Okay, that's insane.

01:35:29.000 If he had publicly come out, He gave a Hitler speech and was saluting and stuff, and they fired him.

01:35:33.000 That I understand.

01:35:34.000 Correct.

01:35:35.000 But the left was unreasonable, and the businesses were unreasonable.

01:35:39.000 My issue is we have to understand the difference between when a private company can do what they want and when they're acting unreasonably, bending the knee to zealous political factions.

01:35:49.000 If I run a business, if I start a pizza restaurant, and I hire an employee, and they start posting online, no one should ever buy pizza, it's bad for you, do not buy this, I'd fire them in two seconds.

01:36:00.000 I'd say it directly affects your business.

01:36:02.000 You are intentionally causing us harm.

01:36:04.000 I have no obligation to keep paying you to be here.

01:36:07.000 But it's my political opinion that pizza is unhealthy food.

01:36:09.000 And I'm like, then go work somewhere else.

01:36:12.000 I owe you nothing.

01:36:14.000 You owe me nothing.

01:36:15.000 Bye bye.

01:36:15.000 Have a nice day.

01:36:15.000 We disagree.

01:36:16.000 It's the at will employment thing.

01:36:18.000 I think that's at a state level, right?

01:36:21.000 So how many, just rough estimate, how many states are at will?

01:36:24.000 Like, I know Wisconsin is, because, you know, it's come up.

01:36:28.000 At will, the thing really doesn't matter because... It doesn't play in here?

01:36:32.000 You can fire people.

01:36:33.000 Well, I mean, like, if you're an employer and you go to someone and say, I'm going to give you a reason for your termination, now you're asking for legal trouble.

01:36:40.000 Yeah, that's why they never give it in Wisconsin.

01:36:42.000 They're like, you know, we're going a different direction.

01:36:44.000 Right.

01:36:44.000 And they usually just say budgetary reasons.

01:36:46.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:47.000 You're allowed to, like, it's so stupid how it's like... 0.99

01:36:52.000 If you fire someone for a political reason, you're gonna get in trouble. 1.00

01:36:55.000 Businesses just say, we went over the budget and we figured we didn't need this position anymore.

01:36:58.000 Yeah.

01:36:59.000 Prove otherwise.

01:37:00.000 Yeah.

01:37:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:37:00.000 Yeah.

01:37:01.000 Alright, we're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you like it, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member to support our work directly.

01:37:14.000 And, uh, we've got a bunch of really awesome shows coming up, as we always do.

01:37:16.000 We'll be back in the beautiful West Virginia next week, so, uh, we'll get your Super Chits while we're here.

01:37:22.000 Clint Torres says, Howdy, people!

01:37:25.000 Always the first.

01:37:27.000 Daniel Brent says, Leviticus 8, 23 to 24, Moses anoints Aaron by putting sacrificial blood on his right earlobe and right hand.

01:37:35.000 Also, howdy, people.

01:37:37.000 I see a lot of people have been posting that.

01:37:38.000 Yeah.

01:37:39.000 He's been anointed.

01:37:40.000 Lauren Borbite referenced that when we were here, when we were recording with her.

01:37:44.000 The Scrub and Scrubs has hoped to play some Magic the Gathering with you, Jeremy, and Ian one day.

01:37:48.000 Been a fan of all of you for a while.

01:37:49.000 I'm normally a modern player, so I'd have to borrow a deck.

01:37:52.000 He was jonesin'. He was jonesin'.

01:37:53.000 We were hanging out for a little bit today.

01:37:55.000 I could see he had his stomach climbing his teeth.

01:37:56.000 I asked him, I was like, you got any EDH?

01:37:58.000 Yeah.

01:37:58.000 He was like, just pre-cons. I was like, ugh.

01:38:00.000 He was so dis— And I said—

01:38:01.000 The look in his eye was so disappointed.

01:38:02.000 And then I said, are they sleeved?

01:38:03.000 And he goes, no.

01:38:04.000 I was like, eh.

01:38:05.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 Like, do you play?

01:38:07.000 I got no idea what you're talking about.

01:38:08.000 I was sitting there so confused.

01:38:09.000 Today?

01:38:10.000 Yeah, Luke was just playing with the dogs.

01:38:13.000 And then we basically spoke a different language for like 30 minutes about sets, terminology, jargon.

01:38:19.000 But my good friend, we want to do a Friday night show playing poker, but there's legal limitations.

01:38:25.000 So we're thinking maybe we do Magic Commander.

01:38:29.000 And we're going to be building like a bunch of decks.

01:38:31.000 I think I've got maybe like 15 high tier EDH decks built already. 0.82

01:38:37.000 Fun, silly ones.

01:38:39.000 Some are completely absurd. 0.93

01:38:41.000 Do you know the Marilyn commander deck?

01:38:44.000 I do not.

01:38:45.000 She's a commander mono black that her ability basically makes you a vampiric tutor instead of drawing cards. 1.00

01:38:51.000 I like that.

01:38:52.000 And the deck is 96 swamps and it's ad nauseum and What's the other card?

01:38:59.000 Basically, long story short, you draw your whole deck, and then deal 90 damage to everybody, and then you use Dark Orb to cut the damage in half to you, so you live.

01:39:09.000 Got it.

01:39:10.000 So it's the ultimate glass cannon.

01:39:11.000 If anyone has a single counterspell, you instantly lose against everyone else.

01:39:15.000 But the one time it works.

01:39:17.000 It always works the first time, because nobody sees it coming.

01:39:20.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 And then it'll never work again.

01:39:21.000 Yeah, they put the deck away for three months.

01:39:23.000 Exactly.

01:39:24.000 Until a new person comes in and you go, don't say anything to anybody.

01:39:26.000 Yeah, so there's a few decks like that.

01:39:26.000 Yeah.

01:39:28.000 But mostly we're trying to build decks that are kind of weak because they're fun and they do silly things.

01:39:34.000 But I hope you enjoyed that jargon that confused most of you.

01:39:38.000 Let's go!

01:39:39.000 Conspiracy Ranch says, now that Kyle deleted his apology, maybe admit that he didn't deserve it in the first place.

01:39:44.000 See the poster of the shooter being a hero.

01:39:47.000 What if they say sorry to him?

01:39:48.000 Gonna accept that too?

01:39:49.000 He deleted it?

01:39:50.000 Kyle Gass deleted it?

01:39:52.000 Oh, I'm just like, man, the content for my channel, I'm telling you.

01:39:56.000 I've been jerking through a fire.

01:39:58.000 He deleted it!

01:40:00.000 That's wild!

01:40:03.000 Why would you delete it now?

01:40:04.000 That's worse than leaving it up.

01:40:07.000 They're done.

01:40:08.000 That's it.

01:40:09.000 Tenacious D is over.

01:40:10.000 That tells you, here's what happened.

01:40:12.000 They said, put up the apology, we're going to try to save it.

01:40:16.000 It didn't work, so he said, F you, I'm deleting it.

01:40:18.000 Jack Black deleted his statement as well.

01:40:20.000 Huh.

01:40:22.000 They both went to ground on it, huh?

01:40:22.000 There's something going on.

01:40:24.000 Well, someone told them, hey, we're gonna make it alright if you apologize, and then they didn't. 0.97

01:40:28.000 I think the PR company said, are you nuts?

01:40:31.000 PR 101, say nothing. 0.96

01:40:34.000 And wait for it to all blow.

01:40:35.000 But it's too late.

01:40:36.000 Now they're double trouble.

01:40:37.000 That's a Monday video.

01:40:41.000 Tim, don't scoop me on this one.

01:40:43.000 Not by Monday, it's gonna be old news.

01:40:45.000 I know, I know.

01:40:46.000 Alright, I'll work Saturday.

01:40:49.000 Let's go.

01:40:49.000 It has been a really crazy week.

01:40:51.000 So much stuff is going on.

01:40:52.000 I was getting up, I was like doing five videos before going down to the RNC, and then by the time I got down to the RNC, they were all outdated.

01:41:00.000 Cameron Keir says, are you guys going to be live at the DNC as well?

01:41:03.000 If Biden makes it there, it might be the shortest convention speech of all time.

01:41:06.000 No!

01:41:07.000 Because I have grown quite fond of living.

01:41:10.000 Yeah.

01:41:10.000 He does like it.

01:41:11.000 We were talking about this earlier.

01:41:12.000 Well, it makes more sense to cover a virtual convention virtually anyways, right?

01:41:17.000 I mean, so that's the meta of everything.

01:41:18.000 Even Luke wimped out.

01:41:19.000 I'm going.

01:41:22.000 I didn't wimp out.

01:41:24.000 I literally had a gun put to my head by Chicago PD.

01:41:27.000 It wasn't nice.

01:41:28.000 That was NATO.

01:41:29.000 That wasn't the DNC.

01:41:30.000 Yeah.

01:41:31.000 Um, in Chicago.

01:41:32.000 Luke doesn't like Chicago.

01:41:33.000 I don't like Chicago either.

01:41:34.000 But my concern is, I'm not worried about riots and protests at the RNC.

01:41:39.000 That never happens.

01:41:40.000 I was there in 2012.

01:41:41.000 Luke and I were both there at the RNC in 2012, 2016.

01:41:45.000 2020 was like virtual or something, so it was like, I don't know, I don't remember that one.

01:41:48.000 And now we're back here and I'm just like, I've done RNCs, but they don't do anything.

01:41:51.000 They march around, they wiggle their fingers.

01:41:53.000 D.N.C.' 's, everyone we've been to, they have torn fences down, physically attacked people, it's nuts.

01:41:59.000 Blood on the streets, clashes, fights.

01:42:03.000 Last time someone lit himself on fire, and I was there seeing that.

01:42:07.000 Getting in and out is going to be impossible. 0.97

01:42:10.000 Every checkpoint's gonna have, it's Chicago even, you're gonna have far leftists blocking the streets, it's gonna take 30 minutes to try and get through the checkpoint, if that, and they're gonna go up to your car and bang on the windows and scream, and if someone like me is in that car, it's not gonna be fun, so I'm not going anywhere near that psychopathic garbage. 0.93

01:42:27.000 I was with Mike Cernovich at the last DNC and literally a guy lit himself on fire.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, all that footage will just be re-downloaded and re-uploaded by some internet person anyway.

01:42:36.000 When was that one?

01:42:37.000 2016?

01:42:37.000 2012.

01:42:37.000 Philadelphia.

01:42:39.000 We were there in 2016, and they tried ripping the barricades down.

01:42:43.000 The barricades were twice as high because they knew the left was going to attack, and they went out super far, and there were thousands of far leftists jumping the barricades and trying to storm into the building.

01:42:53.000 They were in the secure perimeter, and I'm like, dude, not interested. 0.99

01:42:56.000 These people are nuts. 0.99

01:42:58.000 The Palestine people will be... Oh, dude, it's gonna be bonkers! 1.00

01:43:01.000 And in Chicago, with the gangs and the weapons and the corrupt police, man, you have got a powder keg upon... If they were doing the event in, like, Raleigh or something, I might be like, maybe we get something nearby and see who's there. 0.86

01:43:16.000 Nah, Chicago?

01:43:17.000 No way.

01:43:17.000 I'm from that place.

01:43:18.000 I know what's gonna happen.

01:43:20.000 Maybe I'm completely wrong and we watch from afar and nothing happens and I go, oh, look, I guess it was okay.

01:43:25.000 You lose nothing.

01:43:26.000 You lose nothing.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, I just don't see a benefit to being in that because it's hard enough to get into the RNC.

01:43:37.000 They made us walk, so they had a barricade.

01:43:41.000 50 feet from our car and they made us walk across the bridge and walk past the protests to go around I'm like So we took the river path instead because I'm like if we go up that way I'm gonna try and just hug the river they made us cross the river go around cross the river and then walk and It's, it's... Seriously, we had to walk four blocks because there was a gate.

01:44:00.000 The gate was open, and the cop's standing there, and we're like, our car's right there, can we go?

01:44:03.000 And he looks at us, where's your car?

01:44:04.000 And we're like, car's right there, can we go?

01:44:06.000 And then he just closes the gate, and he goes, go around.

01:44:08.000 And we were like, dude, our car is literally 50 feet away.

01:44:10.000 And then we went around, the cop's at the other side, because it was also gated, he goes, you can't come in.

01:44:16.000 Our car is in there!

01:44:17.000 We have badges!

01:44:18.000 And he was like, nah, you can't come in.

01:44:19.000 And we're like, dude, literally, our car is right there.

01:44:21.000 This is how we got it in.

01:44:23.000 And he goes, I'll tell you what, you can try.

01:44:25.000 See what they say.

01:44:26.000 We're like, okay.

01:44:27.000 We walked in, got our car, and drove out.

01:44:29.000 Nuts.

01:44:30.000 Not only that, but they didn't even know how badges worked at this time.

01:44:32.000 It was really weird.

01:44:34.000 So I can't imagine the DNC is going to be any better.

01:44:36.000 But also, we didn't prepare, we didn't plan, we did not want to go to the DNC.

01:44:40.000 But it was very, to be fair also, a very uneventful event.

01:44:46.000 You're saying you're going to the DNC?

01:44:50.000 If Rumble has a studio there.

01:44:53.000 How are you going to get in without far leftists?

01:44:56.000 They don't know who I am.

01:44:57.000 Bro.

01:44:58.000 Yeah, they do.

01:44:59.000 Get a hotel within the perimeter, then you don't have to worry about it.

01:45:04.000 The DNC-level protests, we're talking about, there's probably 50 to 100 high-level far-left organizers from different organizations that have databases of personalities and photographs that they disseminate.

01:45:15.000 I don't know if, Luke, we were in France.

01:45:17.000 No, we were in Hamburg, Germany, where they were literally passing around photos of us.

01:45:22.000 That I know, but in France, we went to a direct action house.

01:45:28.000 where they were making weapons, they were making flags, and we walked around and all the different departments,

01:45:34.000 it was industrialized.

01:45:36.000 So I don't know, in Chicago, I've been to the activist houses they have,

01:45:40.000 their lofts, they rent out these industrial garbage, asbestos-ridden properties,

01:45:44.000 where like 10 people all put in a couple, like 500 bucks a month to maintain it,

01:45:48.000 and then they have computers, they have databases, they say, here's who's gonna be here,

01:45:52.000 here's what they look like, and then they share the photos,

01:45:55.000 and then what happens is in the day of, when the bulk of the activists show up

01:45:58.000 and don't know anything, they're given pieces of paper,

01:46:00.000 they're shown things on phones.

01:46:02.000 And just like we saw in the battle of Seattle, the feds are involved here and they're organizing a lot of the chaos too, so that's another reason why.

01:46:08.000 Yeah, Luke and some journalist Uh, what was that guy's name?

01:46:13.000 Marcus.

01:46:14.000 Marcus?

01:46:14.000 Yeah.

01:46:14.000 They were walking down the street, and someone, a German guy yelled, Nazi schweinhund, and random people got up off the ground, ran up and started punching Luke.

01:46:23.000 They didn't know who Luke was, they never saw a picture of him, all it took was one guy, he yelled, pointed at Luke, and then random people ran up and started attacking Luke.

01:46:30.000 Oh, that was Max.

01:46:31.000 He had to get knee surgery afterwards because they just literally stomped him out.

01:46:36.000 I ran, I got out of there, and then the cops are like, we can't help you.

01:46:39.000 Get out of here.

01:46:43.000 Here's the thing about leftist riots.

01:46:45.000 They don't know or care.

01:46:48.000 If a single individual points to another individual and yells Nazi, they will attack you.

01:46:52.000 And this has happened.

01:46:54.000 So I was at a Trump rally in San Jose, I think this was 2015, and they were attacking people.

01:46:59.000 An elderly couple was knocked to the ground, their hats ripped from their head, and they were set on fire.

01:47:03.000 There was a guy wearing a green hoodie.

01:47:06.000 I think it was a green hoodie, it's been a long time, I think the video may be on YouTube somewhere.

01:47:09.000 Oh no, I think Fusion took it down.

01:47:11.000 And he's bleeding from the mouth, because even though he was a part of the mob, someone yelled, he was a Trump supporter, and then someone ran up and punched him right in the bottom of the mouth and ripped his bottom lip open, getting blood everywhere.

01:47:23.000 Did not matter if it was true, and he was like, I'm on your side, I hate Trump, I hate Trump! 0.74

01:47:26.000 Bleeding all over the place. So you ruined from for me today and now you're gonna ruin the I got an idea for you 0.51

01:47:31.000 No, you do it everyone. Go ahead I know I got a guy in England. Maybe we can get you another

01:47:36.000 suit and you and I's can we just go along those Brick buildings. I'll never see it

01:47:41.000 Camouflage, yeah, we'll have to get chain-linked first That's why you have to suit up.

01:47:45.000 I thought it was a wall reference, but it's urban camouflage.

01:47:47.000 It works for that, too.

01:47:48.000 It works for that, as well.

01:47:49.000 All right, TLO Productions says, Tim, I recently flew my new drone in Long Island at the cricket tournament, and it was a no-fly zone.

01:47:59.000 Upon flying it seven minutes into the flight, Homeland Security shut up and told me not to fly.

01:48:03.000 The drone had no warning of a TFR in the area.

01:48:06.000 DJI drones don't know.

01:48:08.000 Not true.

01:48:08.000 Yes, they do.

01:48:10.000 Do know, it may have been a limited no-fly zone that wasn't approved in the system.

01:48:18.000 Because they showed up, they also transmit.

01:48:20.000 Each drone has to transmit its existence now.

01:48:25.000 That's how they found you.

01:48:28.000 You need a pilot's license to fly.

01:48:30.000 This was the funniest thing because when I was doing the consulting for the North Atlantic Drone Coalition or whatever it was called, I actually was working with the group that shows the first North Atlantic Drone Coalition.

01:48:41.000 North Atlantic Drone Coalition.

01:48:43.000 Oh, Nancy.

01:48:45.000 You almost got it.

01:48:47.000 I was like, oh my God!

01:48:48.000 As I'm telling them how they work, what we do, they then told me, you're going to have to get a pilot's license for this.

01:48:55.000 They changed that, yeah.

01:48:57.000 But I was like, I have to go get a pilot's license?

01:49:00.000 And I was like, can you issue me one right now?

01:49:01.000 And they were like, no.

01:49:03.000 And I was like, but you're, you want me, okay, hold on a second.

01:49:06.000 I just told you the restrictions you need to put in place.

01:49:12.000 Now you want me to take a test from you on the restrictions I just told you to put in place?

01:49:16.000 And they're like, yes.

01:49:17.000 And I was like, dude, I don't need the license.

01:49:19.000 I'm not going to fly these things.

01:49:19.000 I don't care.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, technically, you need a license.

01:49:22.000 Yeah, my wife has one.

01:49:23.000 It's easier, I guess, when you're a pilot.

01:49:25.000 You can just take a little written thing and get Yeah, if you're a pilot.

01:49:28.000 No, any pilot license should be good.

01:49:29.000 Yeah, but she has an extra card too, I think.

01:49:32.000 Also, it's important to know that these are legal aircraft.

01:49:35.000 So if you... Well, dude, they go by O'Hare and there's 747s and there's... So if someone flies a drone over your house and you throw a rock at it...

01:49:35.000 Right.

01:49:45.000 It's a felony.

01:49:46.000 It is a felony to attack aircraft for any reason.

01:49:48.000 So that means you can't point a laser at it too then, right?

01:49:51.000 Yes, you can't do any of that.

01:49:52.000 And there's a reason for it, if the drone loses control and crashes, it could injure somebody.

01:49:57.000 But the problem we now have is, someone once flew a drone over our property, surveilling us, and we don't know where it came from.

01:50:04.000 What am I supposed to do?

01:50:05.000 Like, that's a huge security threat for us.

01:50:08.000 Our security company's gonna be like, dude, this is a problem.

01:50:10.000 What am I supposed to do about it?

01:50:12.000 Just let criminals fly drones over the property?

01:50:15.000 It's nuts.

01:50:15.000 Take the ticket, maybe?

01:50:16.000 Yeah.

01:50:17.000 I don't know.

01:50:19.000 And it's transmitting the video back in real time anyway, so if you get the drone, it doesn't really matter anymore.

01:50:23.000 You used to have to pull the video off it.

01:50:24.000 Now you see it in real time on your... Yeah, so the funny thing is about early drones, I was in Turkey, and this is the earlier drones, I won't name the company, but they could be commandeered by simple WiFi.

01:50:35.000 And so somebody was, some rich dude, we were at a resort, Vice had sent me to in Antalya, and some guy was flying his drone, and I saw it, and I pulled up my phone, commandeered it, started filming video from it, then I released it, and the guy was just confused for a second, and then I walked over and I played the video for him, and they were like, what?

01:50:51.000 And I was like, bro, these things are not secure, I could have taken your drone and flown it away.

01:50:54.000 Yeah, put it in the river, your $8,000 rig, you know?

01:50:58.000 But, nowadays, encryption and better security and stuff makes it a lot better.

01:51:05.000 Ghost Crusaders TV says, did you see the video Benny Johnson posted of the forensic analyst says that there was a second pew-pew inside the building under the kid?

01:51:13.000 I did see this.

01:51:14.000 They're interesting.

01:51:15.000 I don't know how much veracity there is.

01:51:17.000 Of course there was a second shooter.

01:51:19.000 There was a sniper team that shot at him.

01:51:21.000 Yeah.

01:51:21.000 So they're playing audio and this is actually, this is clever, but doesn't prove anything.

01:51:26.000 It proves multiple shots were fired and some were shot, fired from different directions.

01:51:30.000 What they did was, this is actually really amazing science.

01:51:33.000 You look at the wave form.

01:51:35.000 and you can see the gunshot and the report.

01:51:38.000 So, bang, chh, bang, chh.

01:51:41.000 You can then see in the waveform, and you can actually measure the time distance very easily.

01:51:46.000 It's .22 seconds. That's what he shows.

01:51:48.000 You know the distance traveled of the bullet based on the sound.

01:51:53.000 When there's an echo, you can actually tell where the echo came from

01:51:58.000 based on the amount of time from when the bullet was fired to when the echo was picked up by the speaker and where the

01:52:01.000 speaker was.

01:52:02.000 Triangulation.

01:52:03.000 Really, really amazing stuff.

01:52:05.000 That's how they're claiming to determine the location of the second shots and how they are incongruous with assessments of snipers firing back.

01:52:14.000 I don't know that's true.

01:52:15.000 Some guy on the internet said a thing.

01:52:16.000 The whole thing about the second... I mean, why wasn't there a second body then?

01:52:20.000 Somebody just missing left?

01:52:21.000 Some guy on the internet also said that, like, an FBI director was in the back giving signals, so... And that's completely fake!

01:52:27.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:52:29.000 That stuff is designed to make it impossible for you to figure out what's really going on.

01:52:32.000 Yeah.

01:52:33.000 Government puts some of that stuff out themselves, too.

01:52:36.000 Oh, it's always.

01:52:39.000 Let's go!

01:52:40.000 You can tell I spent the week with Luke.

01:52:43.000 I'm influencing and radicalizing everyone.

01:52:45.000 Yeah, I got home and I was like, uh, he needs RO water in a glass, please.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, no plastic.

01:52:50.000 I don't want a lot.

01:52:51.000 She's like, what?

01:52:51.000 I'm like, just do it.

01:52:54.000 You don't want him to hear about his balls. 0.97

01:52:56.000 Joseph Metzler adds that the individual who made this is a PhD professor who does audio, yes, and I believe he does audio forensics, specifically in his science. 0.97

01:53:05.000 It is actually really cool, outside of any conspiracy theories, that you can take a recording from one room of someone hitting a table, and then someone else on the other side hitting the wall, and he will be able to tell you how far apart they are, and like the size of the room, based on the waveform.

01:53:21.000 It's really cool stuff.

01:53:23.000 Yeah, the way the sound bounces off can be seen in the waveform based on time and distance and the speed of sound.

01:53:29.000 Super cool stuff.

01:53:30.000 And then you get a PhD when you figure all that stuff out, I guess.

01:53:32.000 I feel like you earned that.

01:53:35.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:53:39.000 Karasu Macha says, maybe a stand-alone complex.

01:53:42.000 Enough people look the other way.

01:53:44.000 I don't believe it, of course.

01:53:45.000 Most likely it was allowed.

01:53:46.000 Stand-alone complex I also suspect as being very possible.

01:53:51.000 And that's basically when enough people take an action that appears to be in concert when it's actually individual.

01:53:58.000 So if enough agents hate Donald Trump and are wishing in the back of their mind something would happen, one guy sees the guy and just says, I'm probably going to see that.

01:54:08.000 Another guy sees the guy and says, I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.

01:54:10.000 And it's not incompetence, it's that enough of them in their own minds think, I will not stick my neck out for Donald Trump, resulting in the availability of this opportunity for the shooter.

01:54:20.000 Now, if you were going with the segment of the general population, the chances that might be higher, but law enforcement is almost universally in support of Donald Trump.

01:54:32.000 And so like if you can't you can't apply that you can't apply that as rules like percentages from the general population to the sector of people who are involved in security and police.

01:54:43.000 Is the FBI in favor of Donald Trump?

01:54:48.000 I don't know the FBI.

01:54:50.000 But what I'm saying is... I think it's fair to say no.

01:54:52.000 Yeah, easily no.

01:54:53.000 But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is there is that it's a different set of standards.

01:54:59.000 Sure.

01:54:59.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:55:00.000 Recognize that there's a difference between the support that Donald Trump has from the law enforcement community and the lack of support from maybe general aspect of communities.

01:55:11.000 And the exact same argument, you cannot use local law enforcement in place of federal law enforcement in this capacity.

01:55:18.000 The most evidence, I would say, suggests federal law enforcement opposes Trump.

01:55:22.000 And outside of that, support for Donald Trump wasn't enough to stop New York cops from gleefully arresting him and holding him in court.

01:55:32.000 I would imagine that, or how about this, gleefully arresting Proud Boys and criminally charging them when they voluntarily gave up information after being attacked and fighting with Antifa.

01:55:40.000 You know, we talk about how cops support Trump and all that stuff, but you go to any police officer, And say, do you support Trump enough to lose your job?

01:55:51.000 Never.

01:55:52.000 I bet 90% of cops would be like, if you instruct me to arrest Trump right now, I'd do it.

01:55:57.000 No questions asked.

01:55:58.000 I disagree.

01:55:59.000 Well, in New York, where most police departments are typically in big urban areas that are controlled by liberals, we're not talking about sheriff's departments and deputies, local police officers, Have already done all of these things.

01:56:11.000 I mean, look at the police officers who were... I disagree with the statement that 90% of police officers would just do it.

01:56:17.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:56:18.000 I'm not saying that nobody would do it, I'm just saying, because obviously it happened, and he came and he surrendered himself.

01:56:23.000 So who shut down the churches in New York?

01:56:27.000 I don't know.

01:56:27.000 It was police.

01:56:28.000 Police went... Who arrested the salon owner in Texas?

01:56:32.000 It was police.

01:56:33.000 Who arrested the cafe owner in Minnesota?

01:56:36.000 It was police.

01:56:37.000 I mean, surprisingly, in Attila's Gym, the local officers refused to take action, so they brought in police from the next town over, who gleefully went and kicked everybody out and threatened them with arrest, took IDs and all that stuff. 0.95

01:56:47.000 This idea that cops cannot be communists is so silly.

01:56:50.000 In Seattle, when a guy was attacked by Antifa on this All In video... Oh, I'm not saying they can't. 0.90

01:56:54.000 I'm just saying 90%.

01:56:55.000 I'm just disagreeing with the percentage, that's all.

01:56:58.000 Sure, I think the overwhelming majority of police officers would protect their job before they defended Donald Trump.

01:57:04.000 This is true of most people.

01:57:06.000 In Seattle, a guy was attacked by Antifa and the cops arrested the victim.

01:57:09.000 Why?

01:57:10.000 Well, they're like, we don't want to get into a fight with Antifa.

01:57:12.000 In Wisconsin, when Black Lives Matter came to a guy's house, a group that had previously burned down a house, and the guy brandished a shotgun, the cops went into his house and arrested him to the cheers of Black Lives Matter, who hate police. 0.92

01:57:23.000 Time and time again, we see police officers do this.

01:57:26.000 Proud Boys were being harassed at an event in New York City by Antifa, who surrounded a venue with Gavin McInnes.

01:57:33.000 They were throwing things at people, they were screaming at people.

01:57:35.000 Eventually, Proud Boys were like, OK, screw it, let's go, and charged at Antifa.

01:57:39.000 Mutual combat, we call that.

01:57:41.000 When the police showed up, the Proud Boys, being good little Boy Scouts, said, Officer, we will tell you everything you need to know.

01:57:47.000 And the cops arrested them and put them in prison for four years.

01:57:51.000 I don't see it.

01:57:51.000 How about... I mean, you can look at January 6th, for instance, when people are begging the cops to do anything.

01:57:57.000 They don't.

01:57:57.000 How about the cops on May 29th?

01:58:01.000 None of these cops came out and stuck out their neck for Donald Trump.

01:58:03.000 I think it's an absurdity to think that any of these guys would do anything that would risk their livelihoods.

01:58:10.000 They're like, look, man, I gotta feed my kids.

01:58:11.000 I'm not gonna stick my neck out for anybody.

01:58:13.000 I think that's what we see mostly.

01:58:16.000 Alright, we'll read some more Super Chats. 0.73

01:58:19.000 Alright.

01:58:22.000 What do we have here?

01:58:22.000 here. Next, the Slayer says, Devil's Advocate, could someone have tapped into

01:58:27.000 SS comms and misdirected comms between SS and police?

01:58:30.000 Assassination without inside help. If so, it would be a major failure that SS 0.85

01:58:35.000 would never admit to.

01:58:36.000 Improbable, though. Highly improbable, probably unlikely, because hacking into

01:58:41.000 comms doesn't change anything.

01:58:43.000 They could maybe, like, blast feedback, but then they just change the channels.

01:58:46.000 I don't know how commandeering comms would stop people from talking to each other.

01:58:49.000 The narrative would say that they got jammed or something.

01:58:51.000 Yeah, and they have cell phones.

01:58:52.000 It's a convenient excuse for them, yeah.

01:58:54.000 Or they could yell.

01:58:54.000 I mean, it wasn't that big of a space.

01:58:57.000 Yeah, that was the shocking part.

01:58:58.000 It wasn't that big of a space.

01:59:00.000 I can't believe not one person said, get Trump off the stage now!

01:59:03.000 Yeah.

01:59:03.000 Nobody?

01:59:04.000 Everyone was looking forward though, you know?

01:59:06.000 Powder PZ says, secret service director said simultaneously, the building is outside our perimeter, we had officers in the building, and it was local police's responsibility.

01:59:15.000 Which is it?

01:59:15.000 It can't be all three.

01:59:17.000 Watching her get confronted at the RNC was legendary.

01:59:20.000 Yeah, that was great.

01:59:21.000 That was, yeah, those congressmen chasing her down, like, Tommy CK says, how did a 10-foot ladder appear and no one noticed?

01:59:29.000 He walked it right over!

01:59:30.000 Is that what he did?

01:59:31.000 Well, there was two ladders.

01:59:33.000 I think one was from the Secret Service and then another one that was smaller from him.

01:59:37.000 Yeah, he bought it and brought it the day before.

01:59:41.000 Jess Gibson says, watch your bank statements over the next few days.

01:59:44.000 My husband bought something and was charged 25 times in a row for it.

01:59:47.000 Bank is reversing it, but oof.

01:59:49.000 Yikes.

01:59:49.000 Those things happen.

01:59:50.000 I don't know if that's, you know, specific to, or would be for, you know, everybody.

01:59:55.000 Happens to me all the time, but yesterday was Amazon Prime Day, which is a scam.

02:00:00.000 Yeah, it is.

02:00:01.000 Amazon Prime Day?

02:00:02.000 Yeah.

02:00:02.000 It's Prime Week now.

02:00:05.000 Alright, we'll just grab one more.

02:00:08.000 Please give me vacuums. 0.98

02:00:09.000 Jasper Lavoie says, Tim, did you see the videos of the personnel on the water tower?

02:00:13.000 I saw grainy footage with a black splotch on a water tower that I don't know what it is.

02:00:16.000 Yeah, that's not personnel.

02:00:17.000 Not really, I can't say much about it.

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02:00:41.000 Yeah, if you want to follow me, I am on X as well, and it's just at Brick underscore Suit.

02:00:46.000 Pretty self-explanatory.

02:00:49.000 Jeremy, you go.

02:00:49.000 I want to throw it to Hannah.

02:00:53.000 Anyway, you too, man.

02:00:55.000 It's Friday night, you two.

02:00:56.000 Hey, I'm really close to a new follower milestone on Rumble.

02:01:02.000 I want to catch Luke, so you can find me on the Quartering on Rumble.

02:01:06.000 I have a live show every day at 1 Eastern.

02:01:07.000 I would love if you follow me there.

02:01:09.000 Otherwise, I'm on YouTube, obviously, too.

02:01:11.000 And Tim, just as a special side, thanks to you and your team for having me.

02:01:15.000 It's been great.

02:01:16.000 You guys have been very cordial and accommodating, and everyone's been great.

02:01:21.000 So I've really had a lot of fun on the show this week.

02:01:23.000 Yeah, I'm going to miss you guys.

02:01:24.000 I go back to Miami.

02:01:25.000 I think all of you guys, part of the show here, do an incredible job.

02:01:29.000 So I miss being on the show.

02:01:31.000 It's been really fun.

02:01:32.000 So check me out on Twitter at LukeWeAreChange.

02:01:36.000 I have a lot of viral posts on there, a lot of commentary, a lot of stuff that I can't say anywhere else.

02:01:41.000 I say on Twitter.

02:01:42.000 You could also support me there and subscribe to my stuff at LukeWeAreChange.

02:01:46.000 And yeah, Claire.

02:01:48.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.

02:01:49.000 I'm a writer for SCNR.com.

02:01:50.000 Guys, thank you so much for watching all week.

02:01:52.000 I want to give a special shout-out to our road crew, Serge and the Boys.

02:01:55.000 They work incredibly hard and I'm so grateful for all the support they provide.

02:01:59.000 And thanks to you guys, as always, for tuning in.

02:02:01.000 You can follow Scanner's work at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.

02:02:04.000 You can follow me, HannahClaire.B on Instagram and HannahClaireB on Twitter.

02:02:08.000 Have a good night!

02:02:09.000 We will see you all over at Timcat.

02:02:11.000 Oh, no, we're not.

02:02:12.000 We're not doing members only.

02:02:13.000 I always say that.

02:02:13.000 We'll see you over the weekend with clips throughout the week, throughout the weekend, and then we're back on Monday.

02:02:18.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 19, 2024

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