The day after the Republican National Convention, a drone was spotted flying over a pro-Trump rally in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. What could be the reason for this? And why did someone fly a drone over a presidential rally? We talk about it and more on today's show.
00:00:21.000Because all the airlines are shut down, credit cards aren't working, I was trying to buy a cup of coffee, and the lady told me I had to give her cash.
00:00:27.000Fortunately, I always have some cash on me, but CrowdStrike...
00:00:30.000is reportedly responsible for the largest IT infrastructure outage in history, disabling a massive portion of the global economy.
00:02:15.000We are still here in Milwaukee, but this will be our last Wisconsin show.
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00:03:04.000Well, my name's Blake, but I go by BrickSuit when I'm doing stuff online.
00:03:09.000I generally support the President and America First politicians and just kind of You know, it really started as just something fun to do, but it's grown into something more than that.
00:04:08.000Say businesses worldwide grappled with an ongoing major IT outage Friday as financial services and doctor's offices were disrupted while some TV broadcasters went offline.
00:04:17.000Banks were shut down, air travel has been hit particularly hard with planes grounded, services delayed, airports issuing advice to passengers.
00:04:24.000The outage came as cybersecurity giant CrowdStrike experienced a major disruption early Friday following an issue with a recent tech update.
00:04:31.000CEO George Kurtz has since said the company is actively working with customers impacted by a defect found in a single content update for Windows hosts, stressing that Mac and Linux hosts are not affected.
00:04:42.000This is not a security incident or a cyber attack.
00:04:44.000The issue has been identified, isolated, and a fix has been deployed.
00:04:48.000One expert suggested it may be the largest IT outage in history, and I just would like to stress, if a single update could disrupt, like, a large portion of the global economy, You've basically just told all of our enemies the easiest way to, I don't know, shut down the global economy.
00:05:04.000Some are actually suggesting there's a conspiracy theory, there's a conspiracy afoot, that it actually was a cyber attack against the U.S.
00:05:11.000They're trying to cover up because they don't want people to panic.
00:05:13.000However, What I've seen from some IT channels on Axe is that the update accidentally had code pointing to, what do they call it, like a null identifier?
00:06:01.000So this is not a bipartisan organization.
00:06:04.000This is a political organization that also very conveniently wiped off a lot of favorable news coverage for Donald Trump as well.
00:06:10.000So again, I don't know what happened, but I hope we find out.
00:06:13.000I'd like to point out that bricking out is not always a bad thing.
00:06:17.000Yeah, the crazy thing about this is that they're saying when all of these computers went down, it's a single update that knocks all the computers offline, and then they have to manually reboot each machine to make it work.
00:06:31.000This is a huge and glaring cyber security issue coming from a company that's supposed to be helping them.
00:06:39.000But wasn't CrowdStrike involved in, like, the DNC stuff?
00:06:42.000Like, they, what is it, they claimed that the, um... The Russians were responsible for the DNC hack.
00:06:47.000Yeah, that's, and that's probably not true, but I love how you've got these, let's just call them friends of the deep state, who will come out and say whatever the deep state wants to hear.
00:06:58.000And then you wonder why it is your credit cards don't work.
00:07:01.000One of the theories going around right now, and I don't really care to believe this stuff, but at least it makes for entertaining content, I guess, is that they're flexing their muscles as a threat to Donald Trump.
00:07:10.000I mean, the timing is coincidental, right?
00:07:12.000It's the day after he accepts the Republican nomination to be the presidential candidate, and he delivers the longest recorded speech in televised history.
00:07:21.000I mean, you know, I am a resident technophobe.
00:07:24.000I barely know how to turn on my phone.
00:07:26.000Jeremy was just trying to fix my battery on my computer.
00:07:28.000But I will say, you know, the longer Americans go through, you know, they struggle to get into their financial institutions, the flights are all in disarray, it heightens the sense of fear that I think a lot of people have that the country really is on the brink of instability.
00:07:43.000And especially after basically a week of very positive messages coming from the Republican campaign, it is hard not to believe that someone out there wants people to go back to feeling not hopeful, but scared.
00:07:57.000Donald Trump generated a ton of news, he gave a powerful speech, everybody was praising it, and then in the morning, instead of the news cycle being Donald Trump's speech, it's planes are down and your credit cards don't work.
00:08:08.000Is that what you were pointing out, Luke?
00:08:09.000People were freaking out in the morning.
00:08:11.000And it didn't just start in this morning, it happened last night.
00:08:15.000A lot of people were having difficulties flying back with transportation, getting into their banks, being able to travel, being able to get emergency services.
00:08:22.000The Coast Guard had to manually have called in because their entire system went down.
00:08:28.000So it wouldn't surprise me if there were some lives cost because of this coincidence.
00:08:34.000They're saying hospitals, for instance, were shut down.
00:08:38.000They couldn't get people in because their computers weren't working.
00:08:40.000There was a big outage of the emergency services in Massachusetts about a month ago at this point, and it was during that huge heat wave that went through a lot of the country but definitely affected the Northeast.
00:08:52.000Because you have extreme heat, and in New England not everyone has air conditioning, so you have potentially older at-risk people not being able to have intervention.
00:09:00.000It is interesting to me that about a month later we're seeing another big outage on an even larger scale.
00:09:23.000I'm not too mad about it, because I don't like, you know, having to do everything through these digital systems, and cash, I think, is a good thing they're trying to get rid of.
00:09:31.000But even our team's basically asking how this is possible.
00:09:35.000We have one super chat that I want to shout out right away.
00:09:37.000Patrick C says he was an IT sysadmin for 20 years.
00:09:40.000There's no way this was negligence because CrowdStrike is a huge company.
00:10:05.000Today should be a major wake-up call to everyone to just how fragile our society is and just how dangerous the cashless society is that many globalists, many government officials want to ram through and they already have rammed it through in other places like Australia where cash purchases over a certain amount are illegal and they are criminalizing individuality, privacy, sovereignty and Freedom, at the fullest extent, and the buck stops with you, literally.
00:10:33.000Cash is king, and I think today we realized that we gotta have more of it, since of course the banks don't even have that much cash on hand.
00:10:40.000Remember how hard it was to get change?
00:11:31.000Crowdstrike global tech outage snarls early voting in Arizona with GOP convention travelers delayed.
00:11:37.000So all of the GOP reps and delegates trying to fly out are jammed up, severely limiting their capabilities.
00:11:45.000This will have a noticeable effect on Republicans' ability to have meetings, to make phone calls, to fundraise for at least a couple days, because if they miss their flight today, then they're gonna be delayed till tomorrow.
00:11:56.000Some people probably said, okay, we'll just come back tomorrow.
00:11:58.000But more importantly, voting in Arizona was actually upset by this.
00:12:02.000And so, some people have been spreading this rumor that Dominion voting machines got shut down.
00:12:08.000It is something to do with the printers that print out the polls they need for voting weren't working, so it actually disrupted voting.
00:12:18.000Is it going to disrupt fundraising too?
00:12:20.000Republicans are going to be making calls after President Trump's acceptance speech.
00:12:26.000People this morning who should have landed a couple hours ago, they wake up at nine, they get to the airport, they get ready to go to the airport, they're there by noon, their flight's in a little bit, they land in the afternoon, they're on the phone after that, it's Friday, now they're not.
00:12:38.000Now they're in the airport calling the airline trying to figure out why they can't fly.
00:12:42.000And all of these Republicans who just heard Trump speak That's the key moment for Trump to be like, give me money.
00:12:50.000Not just those people flying home to make those calls, but if calls go through, are people able to make donations if they are reached?
00:12:56.000Is the actual engine that accepts the donation down?
00:13:00.000So even if you have volunteers back home in Arizona, can they even process the donations?
00:13:11.000Everybody was posting on X. Linux servers were all fine.
00:13:15.000Anybody that was on Linux, my website was fine.
00:13:18.000I don't, it's kind of wild that we rely so heavily on singular companies for this stuff.
00:13:23.000And that they could automatically update in such a way that it just basically breaks everything.
00:13:27.000There was apparently like some post, I don't know if that was you mentioning it, Jeremy, where a guy was like, I could fix that computer right now, but the airline lady won't let me do it.
00:13:35.000Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was, yeah, that was outlined.
00:13:37.000She just wouldn't let him because like, I mean, the point that you made too, it's like manual updates.
00:13:42.000This isn't like a just roll it back thing.
00:13:44.000People had to, you know, actually come into the office and reboot these machines.
00:13:49.000And a lot of people didn't have, like, admin access.
00:13:51.000So a lot of employees who have corporate computers, they didn't actually have credential levels or whatever on their laptops to deploy the fix themselves.
00:14:01.000So people that are all over the place, working remotely, traveling, they had basically bricked PCs.
00:14:07.000And maybe we now know who, perhaps you were at the center of Rick Sukive.
00:14:46.000If you buy a modern, consumer-grade drone, and you turn it on, it will tell you, before you can fly it, you have to download the map, which tells you where you can and cannot fly.
00:14:56.000It tracks no-fly zones, FAA rules and regulations.
00:15:00.000After you download it, if you were anywhere near anything like this, it says, cannot take off.
00:15:05.000Now, it's possible, it's possible, he had a really old drone, From ten years ago or something, that he was flying, but this makes literally no sense outside of the technological hurdles.
00:15:16.000They allowed a drone to fly overhead, and they didn't do anything about it?
00:15:30.000In 2011 at Occupy, I'm flying one of the first commercial-grade drones, and we hacked it to live broadcast, using the software development kit, We pulled the data from the device while it's in the air and sent it to a laptop computer and then captured the video feed and broadcast it on the internet.
00:15:47.000For this, we ended up getting a bunch of attention.
00:15:49.000I ended up actually consulting with the university and the government on drone regulations and rules.
00:16:18.000Yeah, a 20-year-old shouldn't outsmart the national security state, but that's the official story that we're kind of being told to by the corporate media, that he somehow was able to get his hands on transmitters, also have explosives, also be able to wipe his phone.
00:16:51.000We're going to have to go and look at all of the other Trump rallies to determine when they're allowing flights over the president, which is nuts.
00:17:02.000But this implies that at a deeper federal level, It wasn't just the Secret Service who said, whoops, there's no guy on that roof.
00:17:10.000It is the FAA allowing drones to fly over at... I'm gonna pause and say, this must be an old-school drone pre-FAA lockdowns.
00:17:25.000So, I mean, it's nuts to me because look, even ten years ago, They updated the drones.
00:17:32.000All the drones got major updates that they could not fly because they were given FAA digital maps internally, which connected to their GPS, which would block them from flying in certain areas.
00:17:43.000They also transmit their position, too.
00:18:04.000Tim, can I ask a question on this, because I don't know... This is right before the event.
00:18:07.000I don't know anything about drones at all, really, because I don't have one.
00:18:10.000But could he have pre-programmed it to launch from wherever I am, fly in a certain direction, a certain amount of space, and then come back?
00:18:18.000Like, the drone was never really referencing that.
00:18:21.000Only if it's an older drone from, like, 2013, or maybe he hacked it, I guess.
00:18:27.000That's the level of sophistication that I think I would be surprised by.
00:18:49.000Look, look, go to Best Buy, buy a consumer-grade drone.
00:18:52.000It will not fly unless you connect it to the internet for an update first so it can track FAA no-fly zones.
00:18:58.000The Secret Service denied a FOIA request from America First Legal today.
00:19:02.000You know, they're asking for information like the identities of the Secret Service agents, all kinds of details about what's going on, and the Secret Service basically said, like, there's no urgency, you don't need this information.
00:19:12.000And I can understand where, you know, Kind of to be expected, right?
00:19:16.000They're a federal agency that's in the middle of something.
00:19:18.000They're still getting their story together.
00:19:20.000On the other hand, I think it is amazing that we are still almost a week out from this and really the government has not been able to even present something that they could, like, not even a story that we all would believe is a lie or a cover-up.
00:19:33.000They're saying nothing and they're denying all requests for information.
00:19:36.000It's possible, as people are chatting, he built his own drone.
00:20:34.000Well, there's the story too about the second cell phone they found that has like, you know, a handful of contacts and now the FBI or whoever it's going through and trying to make contact with each one of those people.
00:20:43.000I mean, the initial story was this kid barely existed, right?
00:20:49.000He has no friends and he never talked about anything and we don't know anything about him.
00:20:53.000And slowly we actually are getting details.
00:20:55.000He clearly has someone in his phone book.
00:20:57.000He was on that social media site saying something.
00:21:00.000I saw this report the other day that he told his boss that he needed the next day off because he had, he needed July 13th off because he had something to do.
00:21:07.000I mean, people know this person and this idea that he was able to do all of these things as like a lone wolf becomes increasingly more sketchy the longer the DHS and Secret Service keep it a mystery.
00:21:19.000As his parents were calling the police hours beforehand, saying that they were concerned about the whereabouts and what their son is doing.
00:21:30.000There were many different things that they missed clearly here.
00:21:34.000And it really makes you kind of wonder, you know, with the FBI going after pro-lifers, going after PTA meetings, Where their priorities are at, because if someone's buying transmitters, if someone's buying specific drone tech that allows you to obey a lot of the laws, rules and regulations, especially with just how weaponized they have become in Ukraine, these set off certain red flags, these set off certain alarms, that especially if someone is troubled, if someone is a loner, if someone is being bullied, automatically, if you're the national security state, you should have a sordid algorithm saying,
00:22:09.000Yeah, the likelihood of this guy, especially with his mental health issues, maybe he was even on SSRIs.
00:22:14.000You could even check the prescription data on that automatically.
00:22:45.000I mean, look at all the times they've basically set up honeypots for those guys that are buying those credit card things, those punch-out things, and then all of a sudden everyone gets arrested.
00:22:57.000In the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct.
00:23:03.000What if I were to say that a 20-year-old kid who donated Democrat, was a registered Republican, had a grudge against Donald Trump, bypassed a Secret Service, local law enforcement, flew a drone, had explosives and remote detonators, and was able to successfully get off a few shots against President Trump, striking him in the ear?
00:23:22.000There are so many holes in that statement.
00:23:26.000In order to get to that point, you have to ask a million and one questions, You know, to be literal, you need to ask a question for every single instance, and each of those questions asks another ten.
00:23:38.000We start with, how did he bring a rangefinder and use it at a presidential rally spotted by law enforcement without any questioning?
00:24:12.000I'm sorry, there's too many questions that can't be answered.
00:24:14.000The simple solution no longer becomes a crazed 20-year-old with a custom drone, with GPS spoofing to bypass FAA restrictions, or the FAA didn't put up a no-fly zone, he was able to fly this hours in advance, he had explosives and remote triggers, Secret Service didn't secure the building, didn't put up a block to break line of sight.
00:24:32.000The police encountered him numerous times and let him go.
00:24:35.000The simple solution right now is law enforcement was aware of his presence and allowed him to do it.
00:24:41.000That makes the least amount of assumptions in this regard.
00:24:43.000And then when you ask what the technology he utilized to get there, it's almost like...
00:24:47.000I'm sorry, if you're going to ask how a 20-year-old had a drum that could bypass these fly restrictions, or how he had explosive remote triggers, there's too many assumptions to be made there.
00:24:58.000The simple solution is, they were given to him.
00:25:14.000From what I saw it all seemed pretty much according to all the other rallies I've been so I went to actually bypass the turn off a little bit went through try to get in the early the easiest way that was blocked off and so I had to backtrack a little bit it was tough to get to the parking but I did not really spend much time outside the venue.
00:25:34.000Now, I approached the venue from the south.
00:25:39.000I did notice, because this was at a small airfield adjacent to it, and I did notice a few buildings like hangars and stuff like that, but I didn't, you know, I didn't feel like it was unsafe.
00:25:48.000When you went through the scanning, the magnetometers at the beginning, the only thing that was different is that the Secret Service was doing all of the searching.
00:25:57.000Now normally at these rallies is that the TSA will do the initial screening of your bag and then the Secret Service will man the magnetometers and then do the wanding.
00:26:06.000But at this one, the Secret Service was also doing the searching of the bag and I thought it was better because they actually searched my boots, which I've never had done at a rally before.
00:26:17.000So in my mind, the initial screening getting into the venue was even better than ever.
00:26:25.000And I don't know if that was just a change, but then when I flew out of Pittsburgh the next day, two and a half hour wait at the TSA screening.
00:26:33.000So Pittsburgh airport, closest one where you'd have a lot of TSA agents.
00:26:37.000I think they've got something going on there.
00:26:39.000That might be why there were no TSA agents at this rally.
00:26:44.000So then once I'm in the venue and I got there, you know, as soon as they opened it up to the public, Everything that I saw was basically according to plan.
00:26:53.000I didn't see anything that was really deficient compared to other rallies.
00:27:09.000I'm also thinking about, you know, So, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:27:13.000has now been granted Secret Service protection, but we're within that 120-day window where every major political candidate is supposed to have Secret Service protection.
00:27:22.000Now, of course, it's unusual because we have President Trump, who already had it, and Biden, who is, of course, already protected by the Secret Service.
00:27:28.000But in some ways, I wonder if it could have... I think if I were in your position, I would have written it off as like, oh, we're just getting closer to the election.
00:27:36.000Yeah, it was just something I noticed, and I didn't assign any reason to it, but honestly, they checked to make sure there was nothing in my boots, and that's never happened before.
00:28:02.000You've got the bleachers in the back, which is the backdrop where all the people that you see when you're looking at those standard, you know, media television feeds that are shooting directly at the president, showing people in the background.
00:28:14.000Then you had the flanking bleachers on either side with the jumbotrons above it.
00:28:18.000So maybe for an outdoor rally to have the two jumbotrons, they were both pretty large.
00:28:24.000So it seemed like maybe that was a little bit different.
00:28:58.000I mean, we don't totally know what his path was around because, you know, in reality, I don't really understand why the second they were like, this guy seems to be raising red flags, they didn't have a plainclothes officer following him.
00:29:10.000I mean, if they did, that person clearly Well, I wasn't aware that he was searched.
00:29:16.000So you're saying he was searched because... Yes.
00:29:27.000He was in the secure venue, and he locked eyes with the snipers, and then he left the secure area, and that's when the... Went to his car, and then... Why would you even need a rangefinder?
00:29:38.000Why wouldn't you just pull up Google Earth and do it that way?
00:29:41.000I mean, does he really need to have, like, a range accurate to 10 yards for any kill?
00:29:51.000If they knew he was going to be there, law enforcement knew he was going to be there, and law enforcement was helping him do this, then they'd give him the best tools possible to do whatever it is he was going to do.
00:30:00.000Why wouldn't they just tell him what the range was?
00:30:06.000I suppose if they said, we're going to put a mark on the roof and you can utilize that mark, here's what your range is going to be, maybe.
00:30:10.000Maybe he didn't know for sure what spot he was going to be from.
00:30:15.000He didn't know exactly where on the roof he would be.
00:30:18.000All I know is the idea that a 20-year-old flew a drone hours in advance, was spotted by law enforcement numerous times, Uh, identified as a threat by Secret Service.
00:31:17.000I just want to push back on that a little bit.
00:31:19.000In aviation accidents, there's a theory called the Swiss cheese theory of how accidents happen.
00:31:25.000And it's when a number of different factors need to align to allow something to occur.
00:31:30.000Basically, there's built-in safety factors, but if something happens here that allows something to happen here, and they all line up perfectly, then a tragedy can happen.
00:31:39.000At this point, I feel that's what we're looking at.
00:31:46.000Humans are fallible, mistakes were made, and in addition, I believe there could be structural failures in the way that messages to the police get to the Secret Service.
00:32:00.000Because I understand that the Secret Service is going to have its own internal comms, and they're not going to share that with local police.
00:32:07.000So they've got to have somebody in the middle, a man in the middle, who takes the local police reports and gives it out to the Secret Service.
00:33:48.000Bongino says, if you can't secure the location, you break line-of-sight.
00:33:52.000He went on to explain how, in one instance, they had a vantage point they couldn't secure, so he said, buy fake snow and spray out the windows.
00:33:59.000That will turn any shot fired from this location into a random shot.
00:34:03.000Still bad, but better than a direct line of sight.
00:34:05.000In this instance, Secret Service did not secure a building.
00:34:09.000And if you look at the security perimeter, people are making the joke they call it the security Pac-Man perimeter, because it cuts out this one building, which makes no sense.
00:34:17.000So, the police's own staging area, that's where they were staging, they encounter a guy numerous hours in advance.
00:34:25.000So, I'm sorry, if you expect to believe that three hours in advance he was flying a drone.
00:34:33.000He was spotted by law enforcement with a rangefinder.
00:34:36.000He was identified as suspicious an hour in advance.
00:34:40.000Twenty-six minutes prior, he was identified by local law enforcement and Secret Service.
00:34:45.000Ten minutes before, and they upgraded him to a threat, still allowed him to come out.
00:34:50.000Two minutes before the shot was fired, two minutes and one second, people are screaming, he's got a gun, at cops.
00:35:50.000I don't think they'll release the Secret Service comms.
00:35:52.000Because remember, they're not going to give us anything in an investigation that's going to compromise the way that they do their protection.
00:36:18.000But at the same time, I recognize that there's just no realistic way that I can expect that we're going to get all... I just hope we get them sooner than 75 years with Kennedy.
00:36:26.000Let's make sure we include the contemporary context outside of the event in the political landscape, and that is, why did Tucker Carlson I know we can say Alex Jones predicted an assassination attempt, but a lot of people don't like Alex Jones.
00:36:39.000Well, a lot of people don't like him, but he's in a different area.
00:36:42.000Why did both of these men predict there would be an assassination attempt on Donald Trump?
00:36:47.000Well, it's because all of the things that have been lining up politically, attempts to put him in prison were failing, attempts to destroy his businesses were failing, And what did we see just before, on July 13th?
00:36:59.000Well, unfortunately, for Trump's political enemies, who use fake laws and fake statutes that don't exist in any codified statute, to try and put him in prison.
00:37:08.000This is one of the first times, there's been a few times in US history, I would say at the federal level, probably happens a lot at the local level because of corruption, where a government has declared a person guilty of a crime without due process, It happens, let me rephrase this, at a high level.
00:37:24.000I'm sure it happens at the local level all the time.
00:37:26.000Someone gets thrown in jail for no reason.
00:37:28.000Donald Trump was convicted of a crime that was beyond the statute of limitations because the court told the jury Trump was guilty of another crime which he's never been tried for.
00:37:40.000And if you agree that there was a crime, even though you don't have to agree on which crime, then he's guilty of this crime beyond a statute of limitations.
00:37:46.000This was an attempt to put Trump in prison on July 11th.
00:37:50.000Everybody expected something big to come with the Supreme Court immunity ruling.
00:37:55.000Most analysts said they're going to rule, he does have immunity for official duties, and the question of January 6th will be kicked back to the lower courts.
00:38:16.000All of a sudden, Trump's team files an immediate appeal on the hush money case saying the evidence they used took place during Trump's presidency and contains his official duties.
00:38:30.000Donald Trump was supposed to be sentenced on July 11th, two days before the assassination attempt.
00:38:35.000Because of a surprise in the Supreme Court ruling, he was now free to attend the RNC and name his VP pick.
00:38:42.000Two days before, the stars aligned in every imaginable way, nailing Tucker Carlson's prediction.
00:38:49.000Now if you want to play this game where it's like Tucker Carlson is a madman who for no reason was screaming into the wind that someone was going to try and take the life of Donald Trump, Sure.
00:38:58.000The reality is, Tucker Carlson analyzing the political landscape, understanding history, understanding the motivations as well as the actions, the unprecedented actions that have been taken against Donald Trump...
00:39:10.000would likely lead to a scenario where someone make a move on his life.
00:39:14.000He was attacked mercilessly by the corporate press for making such a claim.
00:39:17.000When it happens, I don't think it's fair to say Tucker was completely wrong about everything
00:39:59.000How could all of that lead up to this point and then go, lucky 20-year-old who was crazy?
00:40:04.000It is fascinating that, you know, I don't think anyone really believes the idea that Thomas Crooks acted alone.
00:40:10.000It just seems like this is something that was more complicated than his skills that we know about right now seem to indicate.
00:40:15.000But either it was, you know, if you if you believe this was a larger conspiracy, it's either conducted within the federal government or it's conducted by, you know, I would argue the alternative would be progressive groups in the country that are trying to Or who are incited to fear, I would argue, by President Biden's rhetoric, because he constantly references political violence.
00:40:36.000This was sort of his prediction forever.
00:40:37.000I mean, what's really fascinating, and you were kind of alluding to this too, is like, We actually can't pull Secret Service.
00:40:44.000Like, it is this one organization that has to just continue on.
00:40:47.000I mean, even every moment after Trump was continuing to be protected by the Secret Service, we talked about the fact that Director Cheadle was at the RNC.
00:40:55.000And in large part, that's because this is like a huge event that a lot of her agency is staffing.
00:41:00.000And in a different year, at a different time, we probably wouldn't have even known she was there.
00:41:03.000I think a lot of people wouldn't even know her name.
00:41:05.000But now we have to ask ourselves, Is this the agency that is responsible?
00:41:10.000Is this a progressive group that somehow has influence?
00:41:13.000I think that's the biggest issue here, which is that the American people don't know and they are just trusting that eventually this will get resolved when really we see this happen all the time.
00:41:23.000We don't get answers and it gets shoved under the rug.
00:41:25.000Now, the problem for the Biden administration is that it's looking very likely that Trump is going to be elected.
00:41:30.000And I don't think anyone, once Trump is in the White House, is going to let this investigation fall by the wayside.
00:41:58.000He said this may be one of the crimes that actually is solved because of all of the, I'm adding this, all of the egocentric individuals in Congress who think they will be president.
00:42:08.000If there is no answer to this, it may be them one day at a podium with a bullet whizzing past their head.
00:42:13.000The JFK assassination was a big message to all the Americans that were paying attention to what's really going on here.
00:42:19.000To Tim's point, the character assassination didn't work.
00:42:25.000So what makes you think, when they took so many extraordinary measures to stop Donald Trump, that they wouldn't take the ultimate step and try to take his life?
00:42:51.000Wisconsin was the new one where the states were bringing new charges, and so I'll pull this one up in a second to make sure I'm getting it right.
00:42:59.000John Eastman lost his license for giving legal counsel to the president.
00:43:04.000It's also interesting to me that Josh Hawley, I think, is the one who said, we've had whistleblowers come forward from the Secret Service, from DHS, talking about the staffing issue.
00:43:14.000So to your human failure, I think there are a lot of factors at play, and I think human error is one of them.
00:43:21.000Because I think that the agents who protect Donald Trump are pretty devoted to him, it seems like.
00:43:25.000Let's just talk about something practical.
00:43:48.000But no, listen, that one, just to be fair too, she was technically not on his Secret Service detail, if we're talking about the same woman.
00:43:56.000She apparently just, the one that's getting crushed right now in the media.
00:43:59.000Right, for not being able to holster the weapon.
00:44:01.000She was not, there was a woman though, there was one agent, and I want to say this, alright, from my standpoint, ten yards away, when I looked at the podium after the first set of shots rang out, All the Secret Service members that I saw, I thought were acting as quickly as possible, without any regard for their safety, doing exactly what they were trained to do.
00:44:28.000Now, can you expect perfection in that moment, even though they drill for it constantly?
00:44:54.000So Tim, what I'm saying is the Secret Service agents that I saw who are right in the box there, right by the stage, those are the people I saw.
00:45:05.000I can't believe that they are all... someone's telling them what to do.
00:45:09.000They're not responsible for threat assessment.
00:45:12.000And I'm not a Secret Service agent, and I don't know, but my assumption is that their primary responsibility is protecting the President, or their protectee in the case of an attack, and scanning the crowd.
00:45:24.000So when the four sniper teams that were on the roof spotted the guy with the gun before a shot was fired, why didn't they say, secure the President?
00:45:32.000But that is not the people that I saw.
00:45:34.000Sure, I get that, but that doesn't mean anything.
00:45:37.000I just want to say, the people that I saw, I felt they acted as quickly as they could.
00:45:42.000The people who are on the stage around the president, they were not deficient.
00:46:19.000Like, people who rush the stage and who put themselves in the line of fire, like, that is commendable.
00:46:24.000And I do believe that those agents probably don't have the same information.
00:46:27.000That's someone who is, like, supposed to be analyzing the crowd does.
00:46:30.000But with the sniper teams, I guess this all comes down for me, like, what is the structure of the Secret Service?
00:46:36.000Because there is Trump's detail that, you know, goes everywhere with him.
00:46:39.000And then there are extra forces that are sent in to different events based on where they are, right?
00:46:44.000So the sniper teams, I assume they don't necessarily all go to the same rallies.
00:46:48.000I assume that there are different people who are assigned at different times.
00:46:50.000Like, The communication breakdown within the Secret Service seems to be one of the big things that we'll probably never know about, and I can understand why the Secret Service will claim, like, well we can't tell you what we do, we can't tell you our protocols because we're currently protecting people.
00:47:04.000And correction, Wisconsin did not charge Jenna Ellis, it's Jim Troupas and Kenneth Chaseborough who were charged June 4th with forgery.
00:47:13.000So even if you plead, these people were pleading guilty, In other states.
00:47:20.000You plead guilty, now every state's going to open up against you.
00:47:24.000We're at a point in American history, call it whatever you want, where if you're a lawyer who is providing your legal services, which is an individual's constitutional right, You are now a criminal.
00:47:35.000We are looking at... I mean, the documents case got thrown out because they improperly appointed a private citizen to go after Donald Trump.
00:47:39.000They didn't have authority to do that.
00:47:41.000The sexual assault charges against Donald Trump could only have been brought after a special law was passed to reopen 30-year-old statute of limitations.
00:47:49.000The civil fraud charge had a victim who claimed not only were they not victims, Donald Trump never defrauded them, and they wish to do business with him in the future.
00:47:59.000They still convicted Trump, uh, found him liable, I should say, not convicted.
00:48:03.000And then you have the Hush Money case, where it was a misdemeanor beyond its statute of limitations, that they upgraded to a felony, claiming that Trump committed a secondary crime, but they never, through due process, proved that Donald Trump committed any secondary crime, yet they still convicted him of it.
00:48:18.000All of these things are dramatically unprecedented.
00:48:21.000I totally agree with you on all of that.
00:48:25.000And then you think after Trump beat them all, they said, that's it guys, Trump has won, time to pack it in.
00:48:30.000And then after all of that, a 20-year-old who hated Donald Trump got lucky walking through this Swiss cheese of failures to take a shot at the president.
00:49:24.000So the probability actually is fairly strong, especially considering we know that federal law enforcement agents have already given statements to the press that they will flee the country or they fear they must if Trump wins.
00:49:36.000Is it possible then that someone working in federal law enforcement who feels they have to flee the country is terrified to the point where they would assist in some kind of action against Donald Trump in this regard, especially considering they raided his home?
00:50:12.000How many law enforcement identified this?
00:50:15.000So here I am, like, I'm talking about my assessment, and I just want to be clear that I have no background in this.
00:50:22.000But I would assume that there isn't one person in charge of assigning the police, of reporting the calls from the police to the Secret Service Department.
00:50:31.000I'm assuming there's not one point of failure, so there have to be multiple points of failure.
00:50:37.000So how many police officers identified the suspect as a threat before the shots were fired?
00:50:43.000I think right now, with the reporting, it's four or five.
00:50:52.000They act upon it in the minimum fashion of saying, hey, there's a weird guy, and then doing nothing.
00:50:56.000Not one Secret Service agent, they had four teams, it's been reported, four sniper teams for the Secret Service, saw the guy, not one of them said, pull Trump.
00:51:06.000That's multiple people who are standing by and doing nothing.
00:51:10.000By all means, if you want to make the argument that law enforcement are a bunch of drones who can't take any actions without a central authority figure, then the argument would be, why was there no central command to instruct upon learning that there was a threat?
00:51:21.000More importantly, ten minutes before Trump got on stage, Secret Service has a holding zone for him.
00:51:26.000Why, knowing Secret Service reported a threat, did they allow him to walk out?
00:51:30.000More than one Secret Service agent would have had to have understood what was going on.
00:52:10.000You're deciding that it's more likely that someone would win the lottery than they would find a $5 bill on the ground.
00:52:16.000I'd make the argument that it's more likely you find the $5 bill on the ground because it happens every day, probably tens of thousands of times a day in this country, whereas we go weeks or months or half a year without anyone winning the lottery.
00:52:28.000It's more likely to find the $5 bill in Ukraine.
00:52:32.000In this regard, I say Simple solution, the one that makes the least amount of assumptions, is that I am not going to speculate that this kid won the lottery that day.
00:52:44.000I'm going to say, we know for a fact he flew a drone over a rally, which is insane.
00:52:50.000That right off the bat has my head spinning.
00:53:21.000Now we're at, they identified the shooter, well in advance.
00:53:24.000They saw him with a rangefinder, highly suspect.
00:53:26.000They upgraded him to a threat, still allowed Trump on stage.
00:53:30.000Two minutes before, they identified him with a rifle on a rooftop, law enforcement did, and not a single person did anything to protect the president.
00:53:37.000I'm sorry, you'd have to think the moon was made of cheese to believe those were accidents.
00:53:45.000I'm kind of with you on the government is not great.
00:53:49.000And what Viva called this fractal wrongness, you are once again making the argument that the highly improbable lottery winning happened instead of individuals let it happen.
00:54:01.000What I think the problem is, like, we're all going to speculate all day long, and we're all going to want to know, but the reality is, like, we have very little information.
00:54:08.000The information about the drone is coming from the Wall Street Journal.
00:54:10.000Like, nothing is actually coming from the government, and nothing is coming from, you know, in a consistent rate.
00:54:35.000One of the root problems is that nobody is going to trust any set of facts.
00:54:39.000Hypothetically, if we found out everything that actually happened and it was the 100% incontrovertible truth and could be presented to the public, wide segments of the public would still disbelieve it because of their lack of trust in government.
00:54:55.000So even with all the facts being actually correct, they will be rejected.
00:55:02.000The government doesn't have anything to do with a set of facts.
00:55:05.000So what I'm saying is, if the facts involve the government, there will be people, it doesn't matter what they are, if you told them exactly what happened, there would be people who disbelieve it.
00:55:18.000So the issue at hand is, What are the source of the facts, and what is the evidence to back up those statements?
00:55:25.000And people will still disbelieve it, even given the evidence, and still coming from the government.
00:56:05.000Law enforcement is the source for the Wall Street Journal that they allowed this to happen.
00:56:08.000But you remember, like, Cheadle threw local law enforcement under the bus, and I have a little bit more sympathy for the local law enforcement, who the federal government is trying to be like, you guys are in charge of that thing, and it's not our fault, when they're like, no, no, we're not in charge of this.
00:56:21.000There's so much conflicting information.
00:56:23.000One more point on this, because we're going to segue into the same story, but with an update, or in a similar vein.
00:56:29.000I want to stress, we do not have an official assessment yet.
00:56:32.000Within days of 9-11, on that day, on 9-11, they said it was Osama bin Laden, They knew.
00:57:15.000They've not come out with a kid who was radicalized in the mountains of Afghanistan, went to an airport, walked onto the plane using box cutters, told the passengers here's what we're going to do, and then flew the plane.
00:57:26.000They're saying I mean, we just found out he flew a drone.
00:57:30.000It's a week on, and now they're reporting he also flew a drone.
00:57:55.000It doesn't mean much, but all we have then is the public to collect the bits and pieces of information that's coming out and ask questions about how this could be possible.
00:58:14.000I think MSNBC should be sued for three trillion dollars or GDP of France.
00:58:19.000And the family of Cory Komprator, Donald Trump, and the other two victims should be entitled to $3 trillion, which of course may be unreasonable, so we can settle with $1.5 billion from MSNBC and Joy Reid personally.
00:58:55.000She's one of those people that Tim mentioned earlier is definitely bummed he missed.
00:59:00.000Like he she is like, yeah, she's like at home crying, like upset, thinking that her dream like and then she's going and making these unhinged videos.
00:59:16.000Remember that clip we watched earlier in the week where she was saying for some reason he was allowed to stay on stage and take that photo like she just hates this moment.
00:59:23.000Part of it is they really hate Donald Trump and anything that can possibly be good for him, you know surviving an assassination attempt, rallying a crowd in support, having an iconic photo like they just can't stand it.
00:59:34.000Having a competent 15 year old granddaughter who's able to express herself They went after her, too.
00:59:49.000I thought that the RNC, you know, first day aside, I thought the RNC was actually a big testament to family.
00:59:56.000I thought we saw that with the Trumps and the Vance's and a couple different people, you know, had, I can't remember her name, but the mom who came up and talked about her son who died of a fentanyl overdose.
01:00:04.000I mean, there was a really strong Remembrance of how sacred and how important the family is throughout this and it makes me think in contrast of you know So many, you know, liberal progressive icons who are sort of like alone Childless, they hate when other people are happy and in some ways I feel like Joy Reid, you know, I don't you know, I don't watch a lot of her content I watch MSNBC regularly.
01:00:41.000You just said that she hates Donald Trump.
01:00:44.000There's people within the government that listen to her, that essentially are preached to her, believe what she believes in.
01:00:50.000The government has been pretty ruthless against Donald Trump.
01:00:54.000And I kind of want to bring this back.
01:00:55.000What makes you think that they somehow will stop at a certain level In order to, of course, not try to stop Donald Trump.
01:01:04.000What do you think is the barrier that's holding them back from committing this ultimate action that they've been kind of leading up to themselves?
01:01:13.000Like, what's the barrier there that's making you believe that at this time they stopped being ruthless, they stopped being evil, at this time they stopped making these aggressive steps against Donald Trump?
01:01:26.000My personal belief would be like, if I thought that that was going to be happening, there's no point in going on in an orderly discourse within society.
01:01:35.000You've got to make some assumptions, and one of the fundamental assumptions you've got to make is that there is still rule of law, by and large, in America.
01:01:44.000And even though President Trump, I believe, has been charged unfairly.
01:01:50.000Even though he's been charged unfairly, that's from a different aspect.
01:01:54.000I mean, you can do all your scheming and all your things about, we're going to pass this legislation, we're going to pass this, we're going to go at him with lawfare.
01:02:03.000But when you go into the realm of we're going to do physical acts of overt violence, that's a whole nother level because it's no way is it even defensible from a legal standpoint.
01:02:14.000You can't do that and get away with it.
01:02:16.000So you've got to at least believe that that much of America is left and worth fighting for because if you don't, you're already living in anarchy.
01:02:26.000Do you remember what happened during Black Lives Matter?
01:02:47.000They openly do take lives very easily.
01:02:51.000If you're talking about the ability of corporate media by and large to set a narrative by framing certain things in a certain way to demonize people, I 100% agree with you.
01:03:03.000But I don't think that that means... that is not the same as taking direct action.
01:03:08.000That's priming the pump and hoping somebody pops off.
01:03:13.000The FBI has admitted that on tape, like James O'Keefe got them to admit.
01:03:17.000They basically admitted, like, oh, sometimes we make a little social media post and we give them a little bump, is what that guy happily told whoever he's trying to hook up with that night.
01:06:24.000From the very beginning, I've said that I want to wait until all the details come out as much as possible, and I hope that they don't take 75 years to come out.
01:06:33.000Speculation before that is going to be operating on an incomplete set of facts, which is, of course, something that you can engage in.
01:06:41.000But I prefer to wait until the entire report is done and knowing full well that when that report is completed and presented, that there will be many people who don't believe a word of it.
01:06:53.000Then how do you come to the conclusion that the idea that all of these security failures was not a coincidence?
01:06:59.000How do you make an assessment on its probability?
01:07:01.000Because I believe the bulk of the people who protect the president are...
01:07:26.000But that's not based on any facts, you're just saying I personally feel a way, so I think I'm going to choose to think this thing.
01:07:31.000I don't think it's based on a conspiracy theory, because I don't think it's based entirely on my feelings, because I've got to believe that the Secret Service has some sort of internal... Yeah, that's an emotional argument again.
01:07:48.000That they have some form of internal screening process that looks at the people, and much the way you have to have your top-secret clearance renewed, they must have some sort of evaluation process that's looking at their agents.
01:08:10.000We don't know what their internal screening process is, that's not part of the equation.
01:08:13.000We do know that Dan Bongino, who is a good source, who was in the Secret Service, has already called out numerous unprecedented errors in this.
01:08:54.000So how is it possible then that all of these law enforcement agents, for one, how do we have the dispute between law enforcement and Secret Service as to who is supposed to be guarding the building?
01:09:04.000By all means, we can argue that each and every one of these things is an anomaly, and it was sometimes people in the lottery.
01:09:11.000If that's the case, Occam's Razor suggests that is the improbable outcome, as you described it, the Swiss cheese of failure, that you can move through.
01:09:19.000There's actually a really simple straight line, and it's that they identified the individual, and there was some official capacity that allowed it to happen.
01:09:32.000When the Secret Service calls in and we got a threat, they say, it's taken care of, don't worry about it.
01:09:35.000That sentence from one high-ranking official would shut down all of the normal procedures of Secret Service.
01:09:41.000That makes infinitely more sense and is a higher probability than Swiss cheese.
01:09:46.000Except for the one where the... that answers all the questions except for why did the snipers not... because they don't need permission to shoot, right?
01:09:53.000So when the snipers saw him two minutes out, why didn't they shoot?
01:10:06.000Don't worry about him. We're good. We know.
01:10:10.000three hours out he's flying a drone all we're good okay
01:10:14.000Again, speculative, because we don't know that they knew he flew the drone.
01:10:19.000They may have discovered that after the fact, so that may not have happened.
01:10:22.000And then we'll shift into the more obscene and absurd improbable scenario that no one noticed a drone flying over the president and had no explanation for it, which is, if that were true, One of the most highly anomalous.
01:10:35.000No one noticed a drone flying over a presidential rally.
01:11:31.000If I was to instruct security to guard each door, each individual officer following my logistical commands would not know who was guarding the other door.
01:11:39.000If I said, Jeremy, you're going to be on the back door, Jeremy doesn't know where Luke is.
01:11:43.000Everyone thinks the doors are guarded, but I intentionally leave that door in front of us unguarded.
01:11:47.000And then I tell everybody when they say, hey, we're seeing a weird guy.
01:12:00.000That makes infinitely more sense than random kids slipped through Swiss cheese in every conceivable way.
01:12:05.000Well, what you're talking about there is a process, I think it's called de-confliction, you know, where there's supposed to be police on the roof from one agency, the snipers who have overwatch from the Secret Service have to make sure that the person there is not that force.
01:12:22.000So in that case, all it takes is you're supposed to have somebody on that roof, you don't put anybody there, and somebody then goes on that roof.
01:13:22.000So, what we know for sure, two minutes before the shots were fired, two minutes and one second, people were screaming, he's on the roof, he's got a gun, in full view of the police.
01:13:31.000And there was no action taken two minutes to just calmly walk Trump off the stage, and that in and of itself is shockingly anomalous.
01:13:39.000Now, I do think it's fair to say we know of the 10-minute threat assessment because the law enforcement officially told that to members of Congress, who then reported it in a public letter to the public.
01:13:50.000I think it's fair to say that's their official position.
01:14:13.000It really reminds me of all those feel-good videos, where it's like a high school football team, and there's like one special needs kid, and then like they all pretend like they're trying to score the touchdown.
01:15:18.000Especially considering with JFK, we didn't have a year to eight years of, I mean, they accused Donald Trump of being a traitor to his country and tried to put him in prison and impeach him in his first term.
01:15:29.000This is substantially more extreme than what JFK went through.
01:15:34.000I don't think any reason I'm saying the reason I believe about JFK is the bulk of all the findings that have come out because the full body of evidence that we are that we have also taking into account what we don't know and inferring what that could be already exists.
01:15:50.000We do not have that body of evidence in the current case.
01:15:53.000So I think it's premature to assume that it is some form of conspiracy.
01:15:59.000I think when we're beginning an investigation, we take the pieces that we have together and we begin our investigation with a hypothesis which may turn out to be wrong.
01:16:07.000Tim, I think in this case we're just looking at the same glass of water and I think it's half full.
01:16:18.000I mean, I think that with all of these issues that have happened to Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson's prediction, it is an absurdity to try and just say right now the likely scenario is accident.
01:16:30.000It's like, this has been... Now what I'm saying is that that is my assumption and I am waiting for the report.
01:16:45.000Otherwise, we're just going on circles.
01:16:46.000We have this from the Post Millennial.
01:16:47.000Mark Zuckerberg praises Trump as a badass after assassination attempt.
01:16:51.000Seeing Donald Trump get up after getting shot in the face and pump his fist in the air with the American flag is one of those badass things I've ever seen in my life.
01:17:27.000Zuckerberg realizes that he gave hundreds of millions of dollars to the Democratic machine before, and now he realizes the Zuckerbucks are going to be finally recalled under a Donald Trump administration, and he's now trying to save face and trying to, of course, not get hit as much as a lot of people.
01:17:56.000Have they made any political... Wakeboarding or whatever it was.
01:17:58.000No, he's just trying to grift into winning back conservatives.
01:18:01.000I think it's true that Trump posting that thing the other day being like, Zuckerberg, Zuckerbucks, watch out, is probably a calculation on some level.
01:18:25.000And Trump is going to drop the hammer on Facebook.
01:18:28.000Facebook has a lot of infrastructure with WhatsApp, Instagram, and of course Facebook, but also a lot of other side projects that they're working on, especially when it comes to VR, especially when it comes to artificial intelligence.
01:18:38.000And truly, I do believe the next president will be deciding the future of the digital world.
01:18:45.000Especially when it comes to AI development.
01:18:47.000So Mark Zuckerberg understands that he's in absolute trouble.
01:18:51.000And you know that AI is going to basically coalesce under three or four companies that have, you know, and he wants Facebook to be at the front of the line for that.
01:19:00.000Do we know if he posted this on Threads?
01:19:02.000I keep getting told that the monthly actives on Threads are enormous.
01:19:04.000I keep getting told that the monthly actives on threats are enormous.
01:19:41.000No, I mean, I really think that Mark Zuckerberg is attempting to save himself for a variety of reasons.
01:19:46.000I do think that Meta as a business really needed conservative support to get rid of TikTok to continue to be viable because they're just hemorrhaging engagement.
01:19:55.000And I'm sure Mark Zuckerberg is worried about the legal consequences of his influence in the election.
01:20:00.000You know, every major social media company in America has colluded with the federal government, especially under Biden.
01:20:06.000And so, you know, there is a level of like they are all realizing that there is a changing of the guards that's imminent.
01:20:14.000And it is fascinating to watch him because the other part is some of this.
01:20:18.000He could be saying, oh, Trump was Trump was a badass and it was so cool and whatever else.
01:20:23.000But he didn't have to get a new haircut and wear a chain and change his style, right?
01:20:27.000Like, he is really trying to shift away from the image he had in the past because he was so weird and not cool.
01:20:33.000He looked so different from his, like, congressional hearings, where he looked like a literal robot.
01:20:37.000There's also, to add on to what you're saying, Hannah Clare, is also... Thank you so much.
01:20:44.000Zuck has some problems with photographs on both of his platforms that has basically gone kind of unpunished.
01:20:54.000He's got a major, whatever the acronym is, I don't want to get Tim in trouble, but you know, photos of people that shouldn't be on there.
01:21:01.000And it runs rampant on Instagram and it runs rampant on Facebook and he's pretty much, unless I'm wrong, he's pretty much avoided any kind of major backlash for that.
01:21:10.000What I think is interesting about his appearance is that when those photos came out of him looking like an android with pale skin and short hair, he had a visceral reaction to that, which makes me wonder if there's something internal to humans where they can recognize like a masculine failure.
01:21:25.000So, for what reason would he, the billionaire and, you know, one of the richest men in the world, have to grow his hair out, grow a beard, get a tan, start exercising?
01:21:46.000Right, we all want to look young and healthy and protect fic, but also Silicon Valley now has this, you kind of have to be cool.
01:21:53.000I mean, Elon Musk is setting the bar to be an influential person in a way that Mark Zuckerberg just never captured.
01:21:59.000Elon Musk as a brand is infinitely preferable to Mark Zuckerberg as a brand.
01:22:04.000And Mark Zuckerberg as a brand was very much linked, I think, with the Democratic Party and trying to be like, well, I'm not cool, but look, I'm active in a way that, you know, I think of like beta male woke guys are like, but I might not be good looking or strong.
01:22:57.000I used to, that inbox, I used to, like, crazy.
01:22:58.000Like, I was like, oh, people, I used to network, and, like, I was, when I was in a band back then, we'd, like, we'd have, like, our band page where you could set, like, your three or four songs on there, and then, like, I'd use it to network like crazy, and then it just, it was like LinkedIn now.
01:23:14.000Famously, the band, for those that aren't familiar, started a band, a profile, I think this was before there were even bands on Myspace, and started messaging people saying, hey, check out our band.
01:23:24.000But then, it worked, and everyone started doing it, and all of a sudden your inbox was full of garbage, and you couldn't even see your friends' messages anymore.
01:23:32.000Facebook said, we don't have none of that, and that's why I switched.
01:23:35.000Me and my friends were like, I can't even get your message anymore, dude, and they were like, we'll switch to Facebook, they have like a chat feature, and I was like, okay.
01:23:42.000I think social media in Silicon Valley must be such a weird world, right?
01:23:45.000Because you're always trying to, you'll at one moment be sort of the golden kid.
01:23:49.000You create this thing, everyone loves it, Facebook blows up.
01:23:52.000But inevitably, whatever's popular right now, especially in terms of tech, will fade away.
01:23:56.000I mean, you said this once, you know, a family member had asked him, how long are you going to do this?
01:24:00.000He's like, well, I, potentially, podcasting could be not around forever.
01:24:06.000The desire to stay relevant is innate both to the human condition, but also to technology.
01:24:12.000And I wonder how much of Mark Zuckerberg's previous dialogue he'll change in order to try and stay in the minds of both consumers and also in the favor of whatever politicians are taking over.
01:24:23.000He has a PR team, he has a marketing team, they're telling him, okay, you gotta make
01:24:26.000these steps, you gotta look like this, you gotta do this.
01:24:28.000He's in trouble, because if I'm Donald Trump, I'm checking the receipts, and I'm like, how
01:24:32.000much did you spend to fortify this election?
01:25:14.000Do any of you disagree with the premise that getting shot and then standing up and shaking your fist in front of the American flag is badass?
01:25:23.000And I actually think that, like, I watched this random Irish influencer do a reel and she, you know, nothing to do with politics at all in her regular life, but she was like, look, I normally hate Trump, but even I, and she's got a very thick Irish accent, she's saying like, but I can't, I can't.
01:25:53.000I mean, I think that really was an iconic moment, which is why people like Joy Reid have such a visceral, like, no, you can't like this reaction.
01:26:00.000I like, as her TDS gets more, I like how she adopted his look.
01:26:05.000Like, she hated him so much, she dyed her hair blonde, and then now, like, the hate is making her uglier.
01:26:10.000Well, it's all she thinks about, I guess.
01:26:58.000The arrest comes less than a week after the assassination attempt on Trump, which has led to scrutiny of the Secret Service and concerns about escalating political violence.
01:27:05.000So, as Libs of TikTok starts pointing out all of the people who are calling for and cheering this on, by all means we can make the distinction between those who lament the miss and those who advocate for it, I think we're going to start seeing law enforcement go after these people.
01:27:20.000In a, I don't know, in a shocking way.
01:27:23.000A bunch of them are going to pop up, too.
01:27:27.000They say, after investigating the reports in the suspect's Facebook account, JPD detectives found that Wiseman had made multiple threats against Trump and Vance, who earlier in the week became the Republican nominees for the president and vice president.
01:27:39.000Police did not provide further details about Wiseman.
01:27:41.000NBC News was unable to reach him for comment.
01:27:43.000The arrest comes less than a week after, blah, blah, blah.
01:28:13.000Yeah, they don't show exactly what he said.
01:28:15.000I'm willing to bet this was substantially more egregious than saying I wish or something.
01:28:19.000However, I think the people who are saying next time X should happen or something should happen, like what Kyle Gass said on stage, they're going to get a visit from the Secret Service.
01:28:28.000Because that's, when you say next time, you are saying it should happen again.
01:29:47.000What this report says is that multiple people that lived by him reported him to police.
01:29:54.000So what you're going to see is more civilians saying, yo, this cat lady down the street, maybe he was on a Facebook like neighborhood page or something.
01:30:29.000I think they have to be very careful in defining what calling for it is.
01:30:34.000And I wouldn't mind if they visited a couple of high profile people, because that's what you really have to do.
01:30:40.000Like going after these randos, you just go after Kyle Gass, you go after like, you know, anybody with a following and then it, you know, you work smart, not hard.
01:30:49.000Find a couple of these libs who are saying unhinged things, make an example of them, visit them, film them crying because they're having consequences, and then put it out there.
01:30:59.000But I worry about pushing people underground, too.
01:31:23.000It's really funny, there was this viral thread from a leftist who was like, I just learned body cameras was actually police propaganda to trick leftists into supporting it.
01:31:32.000Police wanted a mass surveillance network that would protect them and allow for faster convictions.
01:31:42.000It's not to put cops in jail to hold them accountable.
01:31:45.000But they knew that if they came out and they said we want the government to spend millions of dollars on cameras for us for law enforcement purposes, the left would say the massive expansion of a surveillance state is bad.
01:31:55.000We do not want police to have cameras.
01:31:57.000So they said we have to approach this from the inverse.
01:32:00.000We need the narrative to be police are bad, And they must be monitored so the cops have to wear body cameras to stop the bad guys.
01:32:07.000And you'll get all of the left in major liberal cities demanding the government pay for it.
01:32:40.000When it comes to the online monitoring of people's opinions, We are entering a territory where before social media people thought these things.
01:32:47.000Now they're saying them in public and they're crossing the line and getting arrested for it.
01:32:51.000The answer, of course, is you made the choice to publicly declare, you know, a violent threat against the president.
01:33:46.000You post it in public, that has consequences.
01:33:48.000By the way, this is what the right has had to live by for years anyway.
01:33:51.000Yeah, but there was one that Libs posted where the person said, they said something like, when this happened, I immediately was upset they didn't succeed, and then they posted beneath it, I shouldn't be feeling this way, I can't believe this man has made me begin to feel these feelings, it's wrong and I shouldn't be thinking this.
01:34:24.000But also the real thing there, too, is like, to what extent do you, should employers prohibit their employees from expressing their political views outside of work.
01:34:36.000So when you're being hired by a company that says, well, as soon as you make something that's actionable, we're going to let you go because of it.
01:34:45.000That's not a place we should be either.
01:34:47.000The issue is the question of reasonableness.
01:34:50.000If a person says on Facebook, I like Donald Trump, he's going to help this country, they should not get fired or sanctioned for it.
01:34:57.000If a person says something like, I don't support gay marriage and I think children shouldn't get sex changes, they shouldn't get fired for it.
01:35:03.000If a person says something like, I think this particular group of people should be excised from society, I have no problem if their business fires them for it.
01:35:11.000The reason for it is, businesses have no requirement to absorb your political opinions.
01:35:35.000But the left was unreasonable, and the businesses were unreasonable.
01:35:39.000My issue is we have to understand the difference between when a private company can do what they want and when they're acting unreasonably, bending the knee to zealous political factions.
01:35:49.000If I run a business, if I start a pizza restaurant, and I hire an employee, and they start posting online, no one should ever buy pizza, it's bad for you, do not buy this, I'd fire them in two seconds.
01:36:00.000I'd say it directly affects your business.
01:36:02.000You are intentionally causing us harm.
01:36:04.000I have no obligation to keep paying you to be here.
01:36:07.000But it's my political opinion that pizza is unhealthy food.
01:36:09.000And I'm like, then go work somewhere else.
01:36:33.000Well, I mean, like, if you're an employer and you go to someone and say, I'm going to give you a reason for your termination, now you're asking for legal trouble.
01:36:40.000Yeah, that's why they never give it in Wisconsin.
01:36:42.000They're like, you know, we're going a different direction.
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01:38:52.000And the deck is 96 swamps and it's ad nauseum and What's the other card?
01:38:59.000Basically, long story short, you draw your whole deck, and then deal 90 damage to everybody, and then you use Dark Orb to cut the damage in half to you, so you live.
01:40:52.000I was getting up, I was like doing five videos before going down to the RNC, and then by the time I got down to the RNC, they were all outdated.
01:41:00.000Cameron Keir says, are you guys going to be live at the DNC as well?
01:41:03.000If Biden makes it there, it might be the shortest convention speech of all time.
01:41:41.000Luke and I were both there at the RNC in 2012, 2016.
01:41:45.0002020 was like virtual or something, so it was like, I don't know, I don't remember that one.
01:41:48.000And now we're back here and I'm just like, I've done RNCs, but they don't do anything.
01:41:51.000They march around, they wiggle their fingers.
01:41:53.000D.N.C.' 's, everyone we've been to, they have torn fences down, physically attacked people, it's nuts.
01:41:59.000Blood on the streets, clashes, fights.
01:42:03.000Last time someone lit himself on fire, and I was there seeing that.
01:42:07.000Getting in and out is going to be impossible.
01:42:10.000Every checkpoint's gonna have, it's Chicago even, you're gonna have far leftists blocking the streets, it's gonna take 30 minutes to try and get through the checkpoint, if that, and they're gonna go up to your car and bang on the windows and scream, and if someone like me is in that car, it's not gonna be fun, so I'm not going anywhere near that psychopathic garbage.
01:42:27.000I was with Mike Cernovich at the last DNC and literally a guy lit himself on fire.
01:42:31.000Yeah, all that footage will just be re-downloaded and re-uploaded by some internet person anyway.
01:42:39.000We were there in 2016, and they tried ripping the barricades down.
01:42:43.000The barricades were twice as high because they knew the left was going to attack, and they went out super far, and there were thousands of far leftists jumping the barricades and trying to storm into the building.
01:42:53.000They were in the secure perimeter, and I'm like, dude, not interested.
01:42:58.000The Palestine people will be... Oh, dude, it's gonna be bonkers!
01:43:01.000And in Chicago, with the gangs and the weapons and the corrupt police, man, you have got a powder keg upon... If they were doing the event in, like, Raleigh or something, I might be like, maybe we get something nearby and see who's there.
01:43:28.000Yeah, I just don't see a benefit to being in that because it's hard enough to get into the RNC.
01:43:37.000They made us walk, so they had a barricade.
01:43:41.00050 feet from our car and they made us walk across the bridge and walk past the protests to go around I'm like So we took the river path instead because I'm like if we go up that way I'm gonna try and just hug the river they made us cross the river go around cross the river and then walk and It's, it's... Seriously, we had to walk four blocks because there was a gate.
01:44:00.000The gate was open, and the cop's standing there, and we're like, our car's right there, can we go?
01:44:59.000Get a hotel within the perimeter, then you don't have to worry about it.
01:45:04.000The DNC-level protests, we're talking about, there's probably 50 to 100 high-level far-left organizers from different organizations that have databases of personalities and photographs that they disseminate.
01:45:15.000I don't know if, Luke, we were in France.
01:45:17.000No, we were in Hamburg, Germany, where they were literally passing around photos of us.
01:45:22.000That I know, but in France, we went to a direct action house.
01:45:28.000where they were making weapons, they were making flags, and we walked around and all the different departments,
01:46:02.000And just like we saw in the battle of Seattle, the feds are involved here and they're organizing a lot of the chaos too, so that's another reason why.
01:46:08.000Yeah, Luke and some journalist Uh, what was that guy's name?
01:46:14.000They were walking down the street, and someone, a German guy yelled, Nazi schweinhund, and random people got up off the ground, ran up and started punching Luke.
01:46:23.000They didn't know who Luke was, they never saw a picture of him, all it took was one guy, he yelled, pointed at Luke, and then random people ran up and started attacking Luke.
01:47:11.000And he's bleeding from the mouth, because even though he was a part of the mob, someone yelled, he was a Trump supporter, and then someone ran up and punched him right in the bottom of the mouth and ripped his bottom lip open, getting blood everywhere.
01:47:23.000Did not matter if it was true, and he was like, I'm on your side, I hate Trump, I hate Trump!
01:47:26.000Bleeding all over the place. So you ruined from for me today and now you're gonna ruin the I got an idea for you
01:47:31.000No, you do it everyone. Go ahead I know I got a guy in England. Maybe we can get you another
01:47:36.000suit and you and I's can we just go along those Brick buildings. I'll never see it
01:47:41.000Camouflage, yeah, we'll have to get chain-linked first That's why you have to suit up.
01:47:45.000I thought it was a wall reference, but it's urban camouflage.
01:48:30.000This was the funniest thing because when I was doing the consulting for the North Atlantic Drone Coalition or whatever it was called, I actually was working with the group that shows the first North Atlantic Drone Coalition.
01:49:29.000Yeah, but she has an extra card too, I think.
01:49:32.000Also, it's important to know that these are legal aircraft.
01:49:35.000So if you... Well, dude, they go by O'Hare and there's 747s and there's... So if someone flies a drone over your house and you throw a rock at it...
01:50:19.000And it's transmitting the video back in real time anyway, so if you get the drone, it doesn't really matter anymore.
01:50:23.000You used to have to pull the video off it.
01:50:24.000Now you see it in real time on your... Yeah, so the funny thing is about early drones, I was in Turkey, and this is the earlier drones, I won't name the company, but they could be commandeered by simple WiFi.
01:50:35.000And so somebody was, some rich dude, we were at a resort, Vice had sent me to in Antalya, and some guy was flying his drone, and I saw it, and I pulled up my phone, commandeered it, started filming video from it, then I released it, and the guy was just confused for a second, and then I walked over and I played the video for him, and they were like, what?
01:50:51.000And I was like, bro, these things are not secure, I could have taken your drone and flown it away.
01:50:54.000Yeah, put it in the river, your $8,000 rig, you know?
01:50:58.000But, nowadays, encryption and better security and stuff makes it a lot better.
01:51:05.000Ghost Crusaders TV says, did you see the video Benny Johnson posted of the forensic analyst says that there was a second pew-pew inside the building under the kid?
01:52:05.000That's how they're claiming to determine the location of the second shots and how they are incongruous with assessments of snipers firing back.
01:52:54.000You don't want him to hear about his balls.
01:52:56.000Joseph Metzler adds that the individual who made this is a PhD professor who does audio, yes, and I believe he does audio forensics, specifically in his science.
01:53:05.000It is actually really cool, outside of any conspiracy theories, that you can take a recording from one room of someone hitting a table, and then someone else on the other side hitting the wall, and he will be able to tell you how far apart they are, and like the size of the room, based on the waveform.
01:53:46.000Stand-alone complex I also suspect as being very possible.
01:53:51.000And that's basically when enough people take an action that appears to be in concert when it's actually individual.
01:53:58.000So if enough agents hate Donald Trump and are wishing in the back of their mind something would happen, one guy sees the guy and just says, I'm probably going to see that.
01:54:08.000Another guy sees the guy and says, I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
01:54:10.000And it's not incompetence, it's that enough of them in their own minds think, I will not stick my neck out for Donald Trump, resulting in the availability of this opportunity for the shooter.
01:54:20.000Now, if you were going with the segment of the general population, the chances that might be higher, but law enforcement is almost universally in support of Donald Trump.
01:54:32.000And so like if you can't you can't apply that you can't apply that as rules like percentages from the general population to the sector of people who are involved in security and police.
01:55:00.000Recognize that there's a difference between the support that Donald Trump has from the law enforcement community and the lack of support from maybe general aspect of communities.
01:55:11.000And the exact same argument, you cannot use local law enforcement in place of federal law enforcement in this capacity.
01:55:18.000The most evidence, I would say, suggests federal law enforcement opposes Trump.
01:55:22.000And outside of that, support for Donald Trump wasn't enough to stop New York cops from gleefully arresting him and holding him in court.
01:55:32.000I would imagine that, or how about this, gleefully arresting Proud Boys and criminally charging them when they voluntarily gave up information after being attacked and fighting with Antifa.
01:55:40.000You know, we talk about how cops support Trump and all that stuff, but you go to any police officer, And say, do you support Trump enough to lose your job?
01:55:59.000Well, in New York, where most police departments are typically in big urban areas that are controlled by liberals, we're not talking about sheriff's departments and deputies, local police officers, Have already done all of these things.
01:56:11.000I mean, look at the police officers who were... I disagree with the statement that 90% of police officers would just do it.
01:56:37.000I mean, surprisingly, in Attila's Gym, the local officers refused to take action, so they brought in police from the next town over, who gleefully went and kicked everybody out and threatened them with arrest, took IDs and all that stuff.
01:56:47.000This idea that cops cannot be communists is so silly.
01:56:50.000In Seattle, when a guy was attacked by Antifa on this All In video... Oh, I'm not saying they can't.
01:57:10.000Well, they're like, we don't want to get into a fight with Antifa.
01:57:12.000In Wisconsin, when Black Lives Matter came to a guy's house, a group that had previously burned down a house, and the guy brandished a shotgun, the cops went into his house and arrested him to the cheers of Black Lives Matter, who hate police.
01:57:23.000Time and time again, we see police officers do this.
01:57:26.000Proud Boys were being harassed at an event in New York City by Antifa, who surrounded a venue with Gavin McInnes.
01:57:33.000They were throwing things at people, they were screaming at people.
01:57:35.000Eventually, Proud Boys were like, OK, screw it, let's go, and charged at Antifa.
01:59:04.000Everyone was looking forward though, you know?
01:59:06.000Powder PZ says, secret service director said simultaneously, the building is outside our perimeter, we had officers in the building, and it was local police's responsibility.