Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Dan Bongino ACCEPTS Deputy FBI Director, SECRET NSA CHATS EXPOSED w-Joey Mannarino | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Unqualified henchmen.

00:00:18.000 That's what The Guardian is referring to, Dan Bongino.

00:00:23.000 So Dan Bongino has accepted the deputy FBI director role.

00:00:27.000 It was an amazing show he put on this morning.

00:00:29.000 He had something like a quarter of a million people watching live.

00:00:33.000 Very few people believed it at first, to be completely honest.

00:00:36.000 When I saw the news that Trump had said Kash Patel is choosing Dan Bongino for the deputy director of the FBI, I'm like...

00:00:43.000 Dan would have to give up so much wealth, power, fame, celebrity to be a civil servant.

00:00:48.000 Is it really believable?

00:00:49.000 And not only that, but come on, it's like a dream come true.

00:00:52.000 I mean, this guy, Dan Bungin, was on the forefront of calling out the corruption in government.

00:00:57.000 How could we be so lucky?

00:00:59.000 And it is true. 0.71

00:01:00.000 He has accepted.

00:01:01.000 And it is absolutely incredible.

00:01:02.000 Of course, the media, Democrats, they're losing their minds over this.

00:01:06.000 You've got the elite class fake journalists who are, for some reason, so offended.

00:01:11.000 Over what's happening to the FBI. And I'm just wondering what their vested interest in this.

00:01:16.000 And I don't understand why they'd be mad about Dan Bongino.

00:01:20.000 Unless, of course, you realize Donald Trump is dismantling the bureaucratic state and they're freaking out over it.

00:01:25.000 Then, of course, you have Elon Musk, who sent an email out to everybody saying, what do you do?

00:01:30.000 And if you don't answer, you're fired.

00:01:32.000 Now they're complaining about this.

00:01:34.000 And it's just it's the it's the craziest thing that for once.

00:01:37.000 We have an effort to clean up corruption in government and restore more rights to the people.

00:01:43.000 And you've got these liberals and the corporate press acting like the opposite is happening.

00:01:47.000 Huh.

00:01:48.000 So we'll talk about all that, plus some other really crazy stories.

00:01:51.000 On the lead, of course, NSA, CIA, and other deep state chats leaked.

00:01:58.000 These people were using government chat rooms.

00:02:01.000 To engage in, let's just call it, adult behavior with each other.

00:02:03.000 We'll try to keep it family-friendly, but these chats got leaked, and they're very creepy and disturbing.

00:02:09.000 And then, Dan Crenshaw said he was going to take the life of Tucker Carlson.

00:02:14.000 Claimed he didn't on X. The video came out.

00:02:16.000 He did.

00:02:17.000 Yo, this is really weird.

00:02:19.000 What happened to Dan Crenshaw?

00:02:21.000 This guy's lost his mind.

00:02:23.000 So we're going to talk about all of that and more, my friends.

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00:05:08.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Joey Mandarino.

00:05:11.000 Thank you for having me.

00:05:12.000 Congratulations, Tim.

00:05:13.000 Thank you very much.

00:05:15.000 Who are you?

00:05:15.000 What do you do?

00:05:15.000 So I do political fundraising and I tweet.

00:05:18.000 And I've been doing that tweeting for about since 2018, political fundraising since 2020. And that's about it.

00:05:25.000 All right.

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00:05:26.000 Yeah, we've had you on several times before, so it's good to have you back.

00:05:28.000 It's great to be here.

00:05:29.000 Thanks for joining us.

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00:05:31.000 What's up?

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00:05:44.000 It was a great episode.

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00:05:49.000 What's up, Phil?

00:05:49.000 What do you know about time travel?

00:05:51.000 I do it every day to get here.

00:05:53.000 Fair enough.

00:05:53.000 I'm Phil Labonte, the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:05:56.000 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:05:57.000 Let's go.

00:05:58.000 Before we get started, my friends, you may have noticed I was not here on Thursday or Friday.

00:06:02.000 And that is because my child was born.

00:06:05.000 And it was incredible.

00:06:07.000 Shout out to Phil for picking up the show without word or notice.

00:06:11.000 It was really funny because, like...

00:06:12.000 It's like four in the morning.

00:06:14.000 Allison's like, I think the baby's coming.

00:06:15.000 And so I tweeted before messaging Phil, like, Phil's hosting, and I know Phil's probably going to wake up and be like, wait, what?

00:06:22.000 Just look at the tweet.

00:06:22.000 Just text me the link to the tweet.

00:06:25.000 That's how I found out.

00:06:27.000 I was like, got this, no sweat.

00:06:28.000 But he knew, I said it before on the show, I was like, sooner, you know, because it was a couple weeks early, but still full term.

00:06:34.000 Everything's great.

00:06:35.000 Baby's very healthy and happy.

00:06:36.000 We're very excited.

00:06:37.000 And I was like, I told you guys, at any moment, I'm just going to be gone.

00:06:40.000 I'm going to be gone.

00:06:42.000 And the only advice I'll give as of right now as a first-time parent, don't wait.

00:06:48.000 If you are thinking about it, have kids, man.

00:06:51.000 Because it is magic.

00:06:53.000 It's absolute magic.

00:06:55.000 So we'll probably get into a little bit more, maybe on the Uncensored Colin show.

00:06:58.000 I'll talk a little bit about it.

00:06:59.000 On the Green Room podcast we recorded with Joey and Chuck, I was basically telling the whole story of how everything happened.

00:07:05.000 So you can check that out once it goes up in about an hour or so.

00:07:08.000 But let's jump into this news and stop talking about me and talk about you.

00:07:12.000 Here's a story from The Guardian.

00:07:13.000 I love it.

00:07:15.000 Unqualified henchman.

00:07:17.000 Fears rise as Trump names far-right podcaster as FBI deputy director.

00:07:23.000 Now, what I really love about this is that Kash Patel named Dan Bongino formally, as he is the FBI director, and we're big fans.

00:07:31.000 But we all know who's actually Trump.

00:07:33.000 Like, no one's pretending it's not.

00:07:35.000 Dan Bongino had said in the past he would only work for the government if Trump personally asked.

00:07:41.000 Some things are more important.

00:07:42.000 So this is big.

00:07:44.000 Let's just...

00:07:44.000 Throw away all of the fake writing from the corporate press.

00:07:47.000 We can talk about their smears in a second.

00:07:48.000 But let me just say this.

00:07:50.000 Dan Bongino is on the forefront of calling out the corruption in government, in the bureaucracy, in the deep state.

00:07:57.000 There's a reason why he has one of the biggest podcasts in the world.

00:08:02.000 He has the biggest live podcast in the world, unquestionably, routinely getting upwards of 170,000 concurrent viewers this morning at a quarter of a million.

00:08:11.000 Now it's crazy.

00:08:12.000 First, let me just say, I've been on a show before.

00:08:14.000 He's been on our show.

00:08:15.000 He's a very straightforward guy.

00:08:17.000 He was a cop for a couple of years.

00:08:19.000 Then he was a special agent in the Secret Service.

00:08:21.000 So he's got law enforcement experience, but he's got deep political understanding.

00:08:26.000 So I think this is an excellent choice.

00:08:28.000 It is what dreams are made of for all of us.

00:08:31.000 We were all surprised.

00:08:32.000 Hard to believe it's true.

00:08:33.000 So I'm very excited for what Dan is going to do because Dan has called out so much of this corruption.

00:08:39.000 The fact that he's there, I'm feeling really, really great.

00:08:41.000 But I wanted to say this.

00:08:43.000 Dan Bongino, with the show as big as his, I hope you all understand.

00:08:47.000 I don't have the hard numbers on how much money he makes, but based on his viewership, I'm spitballing $10 to $30 million, somewhere in that range, per year.

00:08:56.000 Here's a man who built up this big audience.

00:08:59.000 He can read ads all day and talk about how he feels with the news.

00:09:02.000 He can be as wealthy as a king could ever dream of.

00:09:07.000 He could want for nothing.

00:09:09.000 I mean, you're talking 30 million bucks a year.

00:09:11.000 This is owning your own private jet level.

00:09:13.000 This is flying around in a Gulfstream, getting Italian ice cream delivered for breakfast.

00:09:18.000 And he said, you know what?

00:09:19.000 I'm going to be a civil servant instead for like a minimal salary.

00:09:22.000 And that to me, you know, I tweeted, people need to understand the sacrifice he's making to do this.

00:09:28.000 Because I don't know that I could, like, you know, I worked so hard to build this company.

00:09:32.000 If Trump said we want you to do a civil servant job, we're going to pay you a six-figure salary, I'd be like.

00:09:38.000 I don't know, man.

00:09:39.000 Like, I walk away from everything I built and all my plans and all my dreams.

00:09:42.000 I mean, I don't think Dan Bongino had his five-year plan being like, and then I'll stop building one of the biggest shows in the world in my network and go be a civil servant.

00:09:51.000 But I think for Dan, it's very obvious what his priorities are.

00:09:55.000 And his priorities, it lends itself to his show.

00:09:59.000 When he goes on his show and he says, I am sick of the corruption, people clap for me and say, yes.

00:10:03.000 And then Trump says, want to deal with it?

00:10:04.000 He goes, yes, I do.

00:10:05.000 And so he doesn't care about the money.

00:10:08.000 Everything he's ever talked about that made his show so big.

00:10:10.000 So shout out to Dan Bongino.

00:10:11.000 Man, absolutely incredible stuff.

00:10:14.000 So I'll throw it to you guys so I don't keep ranting on this one.

00:10:16.000 I'm just deeply inspired by Dan, willing to step away from all this to do the right thing.

00:10:20.000 But dream come true?

00:10:21.000 Absolutely.

00:10:22.000 No, I got a text from my dad.

00:10:24.000 He sent me the Truth Social post from Trump.

00:10:26.000 And I said, oh, you know, you've got to vet those better because that's impossible.

00:10:30.000 Then I go on Twitter and everybody's talking about Dan Bongino.

00:10:33.000 I'm like, what are we really going to do this?

00:10:36.000 We're really going to do this.

00:10:37.000 Ash Patel and Dan Bongino running the FBI. And you gotta think of these things.

00:10:41.000 When you think back to when Trump quote-unquote lost 2020, right?

00:10:45.000 You would never have had anything like this in 2020. No.

00:10:48.000 You would never have had Cash Patel running the FBI. These are not things you can think of.

00:10:52.000 RFK at HHS, Tulsi Gabbard D&I. We had to go through what we went through to get what we're getting now.

00:10:58.000 And we're getting the dream team of all dream teams.

00:11:00.000 These are patriots beyond any imagination.

00:11:03.000 Bongino, if anyone's going to clean house.

00:11:05.000 Talk about life insurance for Cash Patel.

00:11:07.000 Cash Patel just became assassination proof.

00:11:09.000 But this guy right here.

00:11:11.000 No, this is going to be the clean-out of all clean-outs, and Adam Schiff, I would not want to be him today.

00:11:17.000 He just left the country.

00:11:19.000 Did he really?

00:11:19.000 No, I don't know.

00:11:20.000 Can we take the passport real quick?

00:11:23.000 When they announced Dan Bongino, that was the first thing I tweeted, a picture of cash, and Dan and I was like, start tracking those private flights out of the country.

00:11:30.000 Yeah, I mean, so...

00:11:32.000 I don't want to make light of all the bad things that happened because of COVID.

00:11:37.000 A lot of people lost their lives.

00:11:39.000 It was really a lot of people lost their businesses.

00:11:42.000 But there's a part of me that thinks that COVID might have saved America.

00:11:46.000 COVID was a blessing.

00:11:47.000 I understand what you're saying.

00:11:49.000 I'm delicate.

00:11:51.000 I'm not.

00:11:52.000 Look what happened to the country.

00:11:53.000 We are here now because of the unfortunate circumstances of the world being mutilated by COVID. I agree with your broader point.

00:12:01.000 Again, I don't want to be insensitive to the people that were hurt, but it really did wake a lot of people up.

00:12:07.000 There's an entire generation of people that will never trust the government.

00:12:11.000 Never fully trust the government.

00:12:13.000 And at the very least, we'll never trust the establishment government.

00:12:18.000 So maybe there'll be people that are like, okay, I think that someone like Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, I think maybe I'll trust them.

00:12:24.000 Maybe I can trust RFK. And not trust that they're always going to be right, but trust that their intentions are good.

00:12:30.000 If they make a mistake, if something bad happens, you're not going to feel like maybe they did that on purpose, which is something that...

00:12:40.000 Everybody in America, well, not everybody, but so many Americans kind of have that inclination now.

00:12:47.000 You know, it's like, so when you were told...

00:12:50.000 You shouldn't wear masks in the beginning of COVID. And then come to find out the reason they said that was because they wanted to make sure that doctors and people that were dealing with sick people had the masks.

00:13:04.000 And then come to find out that they were wrong about that, too.

00:13:07.000 They were wrong about whether you needed them.

00:13:08.000 Ventilators.

00:13:09.000 Yeah, and the ventilators and all that stuff.

00:13:11.000 And they never actually said, we're sorry about this.

00:13:15.000 There was no remorse.

00:13:17.000 There was all the deal with it.

00:13:20.000 Close your business, all those things.

00:13:21.000 They were given pardons for their action over this period of time.

00:13:26.000 And just to add to your point, Fauci had an interview where he was talking about why you should wear masks.

00:13:33.000 A news reporter said, well, then maybe two masks will help.

00:13:37.000 And Fauci literally goes, you don't need to wear two masks.

00:13:41.000 But the news picked up the talking point and decided to run with...

00:13:45.000 Are two masks better than one?

00:13:46.000 Yeah, double masks.

00:13:48.000 And the news media narrative looped back on the CDC, overriding what Fauci had originally said, and all of a sudden people were double masking.

00:13:56.000 It is this mass formation psychosis that ultimately results in these weird policies that ultimately result in a backlash.

00:14:05.000 So I would call it a shock to the system.

00:14:07.000 Yeah, we needed it.

00:14:09.000 And now Dan Bongino is Deputy FBI Director.

00:14:12.000 And to add to that, people like Tulsi Gabbard, who was on the Quiet Skies list, now running the Deanna.

00:14:20.000 People like Bhattacharya, who was blacklisted for years because of his takes on COVID. Now he's running the...

00:14:29.000 I forget what department he's running, but he's playing an integral role that was literally...

00:14:35.000 One of the people that had blacklisted him, people like RFK, you have certain, there's a certain amount of confidence that you can have that these people are not going to be falling in line with whatever the government says.

00:14:50.000 Now, again, they can make mistakes.

00:14:52.000 They are not perfect.

00:14:53.000 They will make mistakes.

00:14:54.000 The bureaucracy is still a bureaucracy, and bureaucracies are inclined to make errors.

00:15:01.000 But at least you can safely say, I think that they're not trying to lie to me in order to save face for international organizations like the UN or like the NWO, you know, the World Health Day.

00:15:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:15:20.000 And that is a great, great thing.

00:15:23.000 So the question I got for you, Joe, is who do you think Dan goes after first?

00:15:28.000 As in who?

00:15:29.000 It could be a person or a group.

00:15:30.000 Is it going to be cartels?

00:15:32.000 Is it going to be...

00:15:32.000 Maybe it's just...

00:15:33.000 Oh, sorry.

00:15:34.000 It's hard to know.

00:15:35.000 You're talking about the FBI. You're talking about so many criminals going on.

00:15:38.000 I know we want to see the big names.

00:15:40.000 We want to see the big senators go down.

00:15:42.000 I don't believe that's where he's going to go right away because it's just not...

00:15:46.000 That wouldn't work.

00:15:47.000 You have to get a big unifying thing, right?

00:15:48.000 I think cartels are a perfect option.

00:15:51.000 He could do that.

00:15:51.000 I don't know.

00:15:52.000 You could see a lot of these gangs that are in here.

00:15:58.000 He's talking about that a lot, too.

00:16:00.000 I don't know.

00:16:00.000 We have no idea.

00:16:01.000 There's so much to go after.

00:16:03.000 Justice for J6 would be out of this world. 0.97

00:16:06.000 Well, let me say this.

00:16:07.000 A lot of the moves that Trump and his team are making are indicative of targeting the resources of the deep state, the bureaucracy.

00:16:14.000 Yeah.

00:16:15.000 So obviously, you know, what was Trump's quote or something about there's not going to be blue states?

00:16:19.000 What did he say?

00:16:20.000 Do you remember that quote?

00:16:21.000 No.

00:16:21.000 Yeah, let me see if I can pull that one up.

00:16:23.000 Trump said something to that effect.

00:16:25.000 I forgot what he said.

00:16:26.000 The leftists were all freaking out.

00:16:29.000 And they're like, this means he's going to attack, you know.

00:16:31.000 A big surprise.

00:16:33.000 What is that quote?

00:16:34.000 I can't remember what the exact quote was, but you've got these stories popping up.

00:16:37.000 I'll just throw this one in there where blue states fear invasion by red states and National Guard like this is the talking points we're getting from the left about Trump basically ending their ability to vote whatever.

00:16:47.000 I call this Donald Trump's march to the sea.

00:16:49.000 He's gutting the resources, USAID, the spending that has circled back and been funding these leftist organizations.

00:16:54.000 So it does seem like, first and foremost, Trump's strategy is how can we stop them from getting back power?

00:17:00.000 Yes.

00:17:01.000 In which case, for Dan and Cash, the first moves may be, why was Trump's home raided?

00:17:06.000 Why wasn't Biden prosecuted?

00:17:08.000 What happened on J6? What did they know?

00:17:11.000 And when did they know it?

00:17:12.000 That's why I think Bongino and Cash have to go after FBI leadership right away.

00:17:16.000 I've been in contact with an FBI whistleblower since the end of last year who's been caught up in lawfare against the FBI for like years.

00:17:24.000 And her story is just like Marcus Allen's story.

00:17:26.000 Marcus Allen testified before the Congress last year.

00:17:30.000 And he said they just rule with fear and reprisal.

00:17:33.000 And they were trying to clean house of anyone who might have had conservative values or went against leadership.

00:17:38.000 So, you know, these people are just using taxpayer money to fund their negligence and their lawfare against actual whistleblowers who are calling out unethical practices.

00:17:47.000 And they've been weaponized.

00:17:49.000 The FBI has been weaponized against us.

00:17:50.000 That's why the cash appointment is my favorite one.

00:17:52.000 I love them all.

00:17:53.000 That's great.

00:17:55.000 Destroying the FBI would be amazing.

00:17:56.000 And rebuilding it to something that it actually should be.

00:17:59.000 You do have to rebuild it.

00:17:59.000 You do have to have investigations.

00:18:02.000 But what we have had right now, it's just been a criminal organization.

00:18:05.000 I did find it.

00:18:06.000 You've got this story popping up all over the place.

00:18:08.000 Trump reveals surprise and warns blue states will disappear off the map.

00:18:12.000 There are people that believe that he will literally annihilate the states.

00:18:16.000 Is he going to do that? 0.98

00:18:17.000 There are people that are that crazy. 0.98

00:18:18.000 They're like, hey, hey, hey. 0.99

00:18:20.000 All of these leftists.

00:18:21.000 I did this today.

00:18:21.000 I spent an hour just going through all of these leftist subreddits where they're all claiming civil war is coming.

00:18:27.000 And the best part is these very same liberal pundits...

00:18:31.000 We're calling you names.

00:18:32.000 So not only were mocking me for suggesting we were on track to a civil war, talking about, look, I didn't make it up.

00:18:39.000 It's a bunch of articles in the press saying civil war, civil strife, etc.

00:18:42.000 You got a guy, Stephen Marsh, writing a book about it.

00:18:44.000 I'm like, man, this is crazy.

00:18:45.000 And so these liberals...

00:18:47.000 These prominent podcasts are like Tim Pool's Crazy.

00:18:49.000 He's always talking about civil war.

00:18:50.000 Now, in their very own subreddits, their very own audience is spam blasting either calls for civil war or warnings that a civil war is coming.

00:18:59.000 And I'm like, hmm, I wonder what changed.

00:19:02.000 And all of a sudden you think this is going to happen.

00:19:04.000 I mean, look, I've said this before.

00:19:05.000 If there's going to be some kind of civil unrest, civil uprising, let it be while the conservatives are in control of the government.

00:19:13.000 There you go.

00:19:13.000 If it's got to happen, let it be while the conservatives are in control.

00:19:17.000 For one reason, it will keep things stable.

00:19:20.000 Like, when I look at what Democrats were doing in office, raiding Trump's home, falsely accusing of crimes, I'm like, well, if conflict arises while they're in control, it is chaos and corruption.

00:19:34.000 With Trump and the populist right in control, it's going to be, I've got to be completely honest, it's going to be much more to the book.

00:19:42.000 Despite all the lies and everything they want to claim, Trump never overstepped his bounds in his first term.

00:19:47.000 They have no evidence to suggest he's going to this time around.

00:19:49.000 They're claiming already he did because he's asserting the executive branch as the Constitution.

00:19:54.000 This is funny.

00:19:55.000 Trump had to sign an executive order saying the Constitution says the executive authority is vested in the president, and they're all aghast.

00:20:01.000 Elon Musk says, can you write five sentences about what you do?

00:20:05.000 And they're losing their minds.

00:20:07.000 So that's why I look at Trump and his administration, and I'm like, well...

00:20:11.000 If chaos does break out, there's going to be functional law enforcement under a Trump administration and chaos under a Democrat administration.

00:20:17.000 Yep.

00:20:18.000 And, you know, we talk about the—or you hear people complaining about the email from Musk saying, say what you did.

00:20:25.000 If you dig into it a little bit, you'll hear that there are actually, like, exemptions.

00:20:29.000 Like Tulsi said, look, you guys that are working in the intel area of the government, you can ignore this.

00:20:37.000 I will— Get in touch with the president and get in touch with Doge and let them know that it's probably not a good idea for you all to list five things that you did considering security clearance.

00:20:48.000 I still can't believe, I still can't believe how mad they are about the five things. 0.70

00:20:53.000 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:20:53.000 That is still shocking to me. 0.97

00:20:55.000 Let's jump to this next part of the story.

00:20:57.000 We have this from NBC News.

00:20:58.000 FBI agents express shock and dismay over naming of right-wing podcaster to number two post.

00:21:05.000 Fire them all.

00:21:05.000 Right-wing podcaster.

00:21:08.000 Once called the FBI irredeemably corrupt, suggested on his podcast Monday that he was prepped to step out of his role as a MAGA warrior.

00:21:15.000 Now, I just want to show you this tweet from Ken Delanian.

00:21:18.000 I am so happy, Ken, that your emotions boiled your brain and you exposed yourself as a Fed. 0.64

00:21:24.000 I mean that figuratively, literally calm down.

00:21:27.000 Put your phone down.

00:21:28.000 You're not calling your lawyers.

00:21:29.000 He says...

00:21:30.000 The DNC on 115-21.

00:21:55.000 Current and former FBI officials are appalled and extremely concerned for the national security of the country.

00:22:00.000 Here's how I explain this.

00:22:02.000 This is important, right?

00:22:02.000 This tweet really, I was like, wow.

00:22:04.000 He's got three million views on this tweet.

00:22:07.000 Wow.

00:22:07.000 Okay.

00:22:08.000 If, you know, like, I'm a podcaster, right?

00:22:11.000 If Donald Trump announced that he was appointing a golf czar and it was going to be Michael Jordan, I would go, huh, does Jordan play golf?

00:22:20.000 And someone would be like, he does.

00:22:21.000 He's not a pro or anything.

00:22:21.000 I'd be like, okay.

00:22:22.000 And that's about it.

00:22:23.000 I'd be like, I don't play golf.

00:22:25.000 Is there a better golf player?

00:22:27.000 Wouldn't know him.

00:22:27.000 Tiger Woods, he's pretty good.

00:22:29.000 Saw him on TV once.

00:22:30.000 Not really much I can be upset about because I have no idea what's going on.

00:22:34.000 So if Donald Trump, and bear with me here, appoint, he said he was going to announce he was going to have an Olympic skateboarding czar.

00:22:40.000 I'd be like, okay, well, hold on.

00:22:41.000 And then he announces it's a scooter kid, like Serge.

00:22:46.000 Then I'm going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I am outraged.

00:22:48.000 What are you talking about?

00:22:50.000 My point is...

00:22:51.000 Ken Delaney got very emotional over the FBI's structure.

00:22:57.000 So, Ken, you're a journalist at NBC. I mean, you have literally no overlap with the structure of the FBI and literally no reason to be angry at the appointment of Dan Bongino.

00:23:09.000 So what about this completely unrelated professional field and Donald Trump's choice has you so apoplectic that you would begin emotionally deriding Dan Bongino and then complaining in such a manner?

00:23:23.000 I think Ken's mockingbird is showing.

00:23:26.000 You know, and the last line there, current and former FBI officials are appalled.

00:23:30.000 If you're appalled, leave.

00:23:31.000 Well, hold on.

00:23:31.000 If you're appalled, you should not be at the FBI. Get out.

00:23:33.000 When he wrote, current and former FBI officials are appalled, is he referring to himself?

00:23:38.000 His co-workers.

00:23:40.000 The fact that they leave out his time in New York, the NYPD, and his time in Secret Service, it just shows that they're not looking to be honest.

00:23:51.000 They're looking to discredit.

00:23:53.000 They're not looking to actually inform anyone.

00:23:56.000 They're trying to scare people.

00:23:57.000 They're trying to look for means to discredit unfairly.

00:24:03.000 Can I just point something out, too?

00:24:07.000 Dan Bongino was a special agent with the Secret Service.

00:24:09.000 That means he is a man who volunteered for a job where he would use his own body to shield the lives of others.

00:24:18.000 That is honor.

00:24:20.000 Secret Service under Obama, remember?

00:24:22.000 So they said, oh, right-wing podcast.

00:24:24.000 He protected Obama for how many years?

00:24:26.000 This is a guy who took a job volunteering to use his body as a shield for Barack Obama.

00:24:33.000 And they're like, he's a far-right, no, I think he's a good dude who deeply cares about his country and is willing to sacrifice wealth and luxury for the betterment of his nation and what he believes in, and I'm deeply impressed.

00:24:44.000 And I just, I look at this post, you know, you got all these stories, you know, we have NPR, what to know about Dan Bongino, but, you know, Ken Delaney's outrage here really reeks of personal involvement, and that's the point.

00:24:58.000 I hope one of the first things we get from Cash and Dan...

00:25:02.000 Is to whatever degree they can, right?

00:25:04.000 We want to respect the First Amendment.

00:25:06.000 If these corporate news outlets had any deals or connections with the feds, it will be within the purview of the FBI to release the documents related to that as it is from their own departments.

00:25:17.000 And I hope, should there be, they do.

00:25:20.000 Who knows?

00:25:21.000 I mean, I think there are, but we'll see.

00:25:23.000 These headlines that call him a podcaster and totally skip over his past are like...

00:25:28.000 They do it in the inverse with Soleimani when he died.

00:25:32.000 Oh, right.

00:25:32.000 And they were like, most revered soldier or leader or whatever.

00:25:36.000 Or the ISIS guy that said, austere scholar.

00:25:39.000 It's amazing.

00:25:40.000 But there's also the inverse.

00:25:42.000 In the United States, there will be someone who's a DEI coach, and they'll make up these great credentials.

00:25:49.000 He was an award-winning artist who discovered diversity, and then it's like he was a janitor, and he went to an online course one time.

00:26:02.000 They flip it around.

00:26:04.000 So I'm wondering, Cash and Dan, man.

00:26:11.000 Where do they go first, you know?

00:26:14.000 And I don't...

00:26:15.000 I don't know, man.

00:26:18.000 Epstein files are on Pam Bondi's desk.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, what's taking her so long? 0.96

00:26:22.000 I think it's fair.

00:26:23.000 I think it's fair.

00:26:24.000 Yeah.

00:26:25.000 You know, I know a lot of people are saying, like, get it done, get it done.

00:26:27.000 Take your time.

00:26:28.000 Take your time.

00:26:28.000 Do it right.

00:26:29.000 I'm very curious to see why.

00:26:31.000 Most of these people are living, is what I'm assuming, too.

00:26:34.000 That's a lot of the problem with the Epstein stuff.

00:26:36.000 These are people that are living.

00:26:37.000 Cash gave an interview where he said, I think it was Cash, he said, the thing is, most of the answers, he's like, I've seen the JFK files.

00:26:44.000 Most of the questions you've asked, you got the answers.

00:26:47.000 The things that are classified are not related to the questions you're asking, so he's like, I can't really say much more than that.

00:26:54.000 He's like, but they should be released.

00:26:56.000 And so I think the important thing to understand is just because something isn't released doesn't mean it's relevant to the issue we want.

00:27:03.000 My point ultimately is I trust Pam Bondi.

00:27:06.000 I especially trust Cash and Dan.

00:27:09.000 And when Pam is like, I've got the Epstein list on my desk, let's make sure they do this properly. 1.00

00:27:15.000 What I don't want to see is if the story comes out and there's something in it that's lacking context, which misdirects people.

00:27:23.000 It can actually protect the evil.

00:27:26.000 If there's something in there that's, yeah, like, it has to be done properly.

00:27:32.000 And I'm not going to say I want to wait a year or anything.

00:27:35.000 I'm saying, like, you know, like a month or two.

00:27:37.000 You know, like, let's give them time to go through it and figure out, you know, what's going on.

00:27:41.000 Because we don't know.

00:27:42.000 The question ultimately comes down to, do you trust your FBI? And here's what I'm going to say.

00:27:47.000 I fully expect.

00:27:49.000 No, I demand.

00:27:50.000 That Cash and Dan will maintain the secrecy of classified and top-secret information as required by law and as required by President Trump.

00:27:59.000 The issue is how I feel based on what I know and have researched over the past 20 years is that the previous administrations, intelligence agencies, and investigative wings, the NSA, the Deep State, whatever you want to call it, have been untrustworthy and have classified things for their own protection and corrupt actions.

00:28:18.000 What I want is a proper classification system to truly safeguard Americans' national security.

00:28:24.000 I do not believe the previous administrations were doing that.

00:28:27.000 I expect Dan and Cash to keep things classified should they actually be within the national security, but ultimately it comes down to this.

00:28:34.000 If Cash walked up to me and said, Tim, these documents I want are classified for national security reasons, my response to Cash would be like, all right, buddy, I'm trusting you on this one.

00:28:44.000 My response to the previous administration is, you have lied so many times, you are lying to me now.

00:28:48.000 Yeah.

00:28:49.000 I mean, there's no reason to believe the previous administration.

00:28:52.000 In fact, there's...

00:28:53.000 There's every reason to disbelieve them.

00:28:54.000 Exactly.

00:28:55.000 There actually is.

00:28:55.000 100%.

00:28:56.000 And look, the government does overclassify things, and they do it so that way they don't have to answer questions.

00:29:03.000 Right.

00:29:03.000 If they can get away with classifying it just so that way they don't have to think about it, they're going to.

00:29:09.000 And that's a...

00:29:12.000 Culture of secrecy in Washington that really needs to end.

00:29:15.000 The idea that there are, I mean the FBI can...

00:29:19.000 There should be things that are secret in order to protect witnesses and to protect ongoing investigations.

00:29:26.000 But otherwise, once the investigation's done, once the people have been arrested, once the trial's happened, there's no reason for any of that stuff to continue to be classified or to be secret.

00:29:39.000 You disagree?

00:29:40.000 Well, there's challenging things.

00:29:43.000 That's why I said context matters.

00:29:45.000 Certain documents in the Epstein case may...

00:29:48.000 relate to ancillary and ongoing investigations so let's say they've got documents where they're like insert high-profile media executive was on the island epstein doing this thing at a party where he said to insert other corrupt pharmaceutical agents on the phone this or otherwise and then they say imagine cash or dan is they're like look man we want to give you these names it could compromise us going after this other criminal in a side case so there could be reasons.

00:30:17.000 And that's ultimately the big challenge on this one.

00:30:20.000 And that's usually why these things remain classified.

00:30:23.000 The question ultimately comes down to, do you trust the current administration?

00:30:27.000 And I gotta tell you, you said it right, Joey.

00:30:30.000 The previous administration, the Obama administration, the Bush administration, they've given us nothing but reasons to distrust them.

00:30:36.000 Trump has continually given us reasons to trust him as long as not related to something personal to Trump's ego.

00:30:43.000 Because if it's like crowd size or the carat gold of his toilet, then he's going to talk a big game.

00:30:49.000 But usually, like when Trump came out...

00:30:51.000 10 carat difference is a lot.

00:30:53.000 Or the square footage.

00:30:55.000 Things that don't really matter.

00:30:57.000 When it comes to the country.

00:30:59.000 My toilet is 15 square feet.

00:31:02.000 It's huge.

00:31:02.000 It's actually the second biggest and the third most beautiful.

00:31:05.000 But you'll never hear him admit that.

00:31:08.000 Trump came out in his first term.

00:31:10.000 He gets asked a question.

00:31:12.000 And he outright just says, we're going to sell a lot of weapons to Saudi Arabia.

00:31:16.000 It's great, going to be great for our economy.

00:31:19.000 And all of these anti-war leftists, their jaws at the floor, and they were like, he just said it.

00:31:25.000 He just came out and admitted what American Middle Eastern foreign policy is.

00:31:31.000 He just admitted it.

00:31:33.000 And I'm like, yes.

00:31:34.000 And The Intercept called him the most dishonest, honest president we've ever had.

00:31:38.000 Because Trump...

00:31:39.000 We'll bloviate and exaggerate things that don't really matter so long as it's like how tall he is and what is his weight and, you know, like how many strokes below par.

00:31:51.000 It's like we don't really care, but Trump talks a big game.

00:31:53.000 But when it comes to matters that the people actually want to know about, Trump, he'll start to tell you.

00:31:58.000 He'll be like, yeah, we sell weapons in Saudi Arabia.

00:32:00.000 It's hundreds of millions of dollars that goes into our economy.

00:32:02.000 And you're like, oh, all right.

00:32:05.000 So long story short, I want to see this stuff declassified.

00:32:09.000 But I do trust Cash, Dan, and Pam Bondi and the Trump administration to do the best of their abilities.

00:32:16.000 I wonder, Cash being put in charge of ATF made me think of Ruby Ridge.

00:32:20.000 And like, are they going to say, like, we're sorry?

00:32:23.000 We apologize for this total mess up?

00:32:25.000 I have a lot of thoughts about stuff like Ruby Ridge, particularly when it comes to, like we were discussing earlier, a lot of the enforcement, or if I understand correctly, the majority of the enforcement arm of the ATF has been moved to the border.

00:32:38.000 And so that is taking them off of doing things like harassing people for a barrel that's two or three inches too short.

00:32:47.000 And that was the whole pretense of Ruby Ridge.

00:32:50.000 If it wasn't for the NFA... That family wouldn't have been killed.

00:32:54.000 Yeah.

00:32:54.000 And so these kind of laws do matter, right?

00:32:58.000 The idea that, oh, the barrel on your rifle's too short, or you have a silencer that the...

00:33:05.000 A serial number is scuffed on.

00:33:07.000 And that's the kind of stuff that the ATF would absolutely have picked people up and ruined their lives for.

00:33:12.000 The ATF does not exist in order to destroy the lives of otherwise law-abiding Americans.

00:33:20.000 These are registration issues.

00:33:23.000 These are not about people that are intending to be criminals.

00:33:26.000 If you have a rifle that has a barrel that's too short, or a shotgun that has a barrel that's too short...

00:33:32.000 That is not some kind of evidence that you're intending to do a crime.

00:33:36.000 But there was that one video that went viral where the ATF guy got arrested by local cops.

00:33:40.000 And good.

00:33:41.000 He was trying to, he was like, he didn't have a warrant or anything.

00:33:43.000 He went to his house to ask him, and he wouldn't leave.

00:33:45.000 And the cops were like, bro.

00:33:47.000 And then he resisted arrest.

00:33:48.000 But I should, you know, I was trying to think about what this feels like with Kash Patel.

00:33:53.000 And, you know, it feels like all throughout the year, you were telling your parents, like, you really just wanted a PS5 for Christmas.

00:34:02.000 And then finally, a few months out, they're like, we're going to get you a PS5, and you're freaking out.

00:34:06.000 And then when you open it up, not only did they get you the PS5, they got you the deluxe bundle with a bunch of pre-downloaded high-end games, and you get more than you bargained for.

00:34:16.000 Yeah, the PS6, actually.

00:34:17.000 It's actually much better.

00:34:19.000 Dan Bongino, it's actually Dan Bongino handing you the PlayStation.

00:34:23.000 And so, there we go.

00:34:24.000 Let's jump to this next story from the Post Millennial.

00:34:28.000 Okay, I'm going to pause real quick as we get started and just say we'll try to keep this one family-friendly as much as we can, but considering the nature of it, just, you know, giving you guys a heads up.

00:34:36.000 NSA vows to take action against workers who are talking kink, sex changes, polyamory, fetishes in government chatroom.

00:34:45.000 Two channels from the NSA's Interlink messaging program featured discussions related to polyamory and other things.

00:34:51.000 I'm not going to get into details, but let me just say they're shockingly graphic, disturbing, They depict actions which one might question if somebody who tried to do this would be 5150'd. 0.75

00:35:02.000 Wow.

00:35:04.000 I mean, these chats are nuts.

00:35:07.000 Like, these are government employees.

00:35:09.000 I can't.

00:35:11.000 We'll save.

00:35:12.000 Maybe we'll take a few minutes in the Uncentered Call-In show to get a little heavy on what they were talking about.

00:35:16.000 But they were talking about things that could result in serious harm to your body and how they enjoyed them.

00:35:21.000 And I'm just like, what is going on at the NSA? And I gotta tell you, particularly worried, because the NSA's got everything about you.

00:35:29.000 Yeah.

00:35:29.000 This is honestly the least shocking thing.

00:35:31.000 I feel like this is just right up their alley.

00:35:33.000 These are voyeurs who listen to all of us.

00:35:35.000 This is what they do.

00:35:36.000 They're weird furries, you know?

00:35:38.000 You know, there are some regular furries.

00:35:40.000 They watch the show.

00:35:41.000 They super chat sometimes.

00:35:42.000 That's right.

00:35:42.000 I was here one time.

00:35:43.000 They called in.

00:35:43.000 Yeah.

00:35:44.000 You know, and I will actually say this.

00:35:46.000 You know, if you're at home and you're dressed like Bugs Bunny, I really don't care.

00:35:49.000 If you're in a private chat room with your friends talking about wanting to be Bugs Bunny, again, I really don't care.

00:35:54.000 If on our tax dollars, you are dressed like Bugs Bunny, having Bugs Bunny conventions in government chat rooms, now we've got a problem.

00:36:01.000 That is not something we should be paying for.

00:36:03.000 This is why they're offended at what five things did you get done this week?

00:36:06.000 Because they're talking about this instead of doing work.

00:36:09.000 This is the problem.

00:36:10.000 Well, I took this one object and I put it in my...

00:36:12.000 I washed a weird stain off of my furry suit.

00:36:15.000 Oh, Lord, help us all, please.

00:36:17.000 Fired. 0.81

00:36:18.000 Gross. 0.99

00:36:19.000 Congressional sex tape. 1.00

00:36:20.000 You know, this is right in line with the... 0.92

00:36:22.000 Remember that?

00:36:23.000 Can I just pause?

00:36:25.000 I don't know the statute of limitations is on that, but I sure hope Dan and Cash go after those guys.

00:36:29.000 Absolutely.

00:36:29.000 That was a disgrace.

00:36:30.000 Remember, they said they didn't do anything wrong.

00:36:32.000 We don't even know who the...

00:36:33.000 Well, we know who the front one was.

00:36:35.000 We don't know who the other one was, the one who was holding the camera.

00:36:38.000 Let me just pause real quick, just for the context.

00:36:41.000 For those that don't know, a video leaked in the Senate building of two men...

00:36:47.000 Let's just call it...

00:36:49.000 Loving each other.

00:36:50.000 Offending God.

00:36:51.000 That's better.

00:36:52.000 That's what it was.

00:36:54.000 Offending God.

00:36:55.000 Yeah.

00:36:56.000 And it's not a gay thing.

00:36:57.000 And the founders.

00:36:58.000 And the founders.

00:37:00.000 I'm talking about premarital relations.

00:37:02.000 That's right.

00:37:03.000 Engaged in activities that would justify God destroying the whole city.

00:37:07.000 I called it making the baby Jesus cry last time.

00:37:11.000 They were doing what the Senate does to America.

00:37:13.000 Just on the Senate floor.

00:37:14.000 So, I mean, I know that I said what they do to us every day.

00:37:17.000 Just to move on from this and stop making puns, no one ever got held accountable.

00:37:21.000 A guy got fired.

00:37:22.000 And I want criminal accountability, people who are breaking the law.

00:37:27.000 So, okay, back to the NSA weird exposed chats that are really disturbing and you wish you didn't read if you do.

00:37:35.000 Remember when things like...

00:37:37.000 This is, sorry, this is why.

00:37:39.000 Elon Musk's emails are so important and why it's so important that Doge go in and figure out what these people are doing because I don't think people realize it's not just about giving money to charities that make no sense.

00:37:51.000 When someone, if you go out in the middle of the street in Times Square and say, should we be funding gender studies in Pakistan?

00:37:58.000 Most people are going to say no.

00:37:59.000 Okay, now what if you said, should we be funding the employment of people who use work time to talk about their weird kinks and putting things in their, you know what? 0.82

00:38:07.000 And they're going to be like, no!

00:38:09.000 Why are we paying for that?

00:38:11.000 Buy them all.

00:38:13.000 I said it's the least surprising thing because the government is so depraved. 0.94

00:38:16.000 Last night on my show, we talked about how the government funded kids in foster care to be experimented on and feeding them radioactive oatmeal just to see what went down.

00:38:29.000 And we've also secretly given kids AIDS-like medicine that they didn't know they were taking.

00:38:34.000 We experiment on children with our tax dollars all the time.

00:38:38.000 This is just like an offshoot of how depraved we are.

00:38:41.000 I mean, there are dark and sinister forces operating behind the scenes that people don't want to believe is true.

00:38:48.000 Yeah, it's everything.

00:38:49.000 It is remarkable how there's that joke about what's the difference between the news and a conspiracy theory six months.

00:38:55.000 But the reality is, I mean, you look at the JFK stuff.

00:38:58.000 It was fringe lunacy to say anything other than, you know, what happened happened.

00:39:05.000 Now we're at the point where former Congressman Ron Paul, sitting on a podcast, being like, it was CIA. And then we're hanging out with RFK Jr. It's like, CIA killed my family.

00:39:13.000 And it's like, now it's just publicly mainstream believed.

00:39:16.000 Completely, yeah, 100%.

00:39:18.000 That's why I'm happy we have it.

00:39:19.000 I do think Cash's position was that it wasn't.

00:39:22.000 Interesting.

00:39:23.000 He's like, I've seen all the documents.

00:39:24.000 He's like, you'll see.

00:39:26.000 Interesting.

00:39:26.000 This is why I'm happy we have a prolific conspiracy theorist in the FBI now.

00:39:30.000 Because he's going to, I hope, expose a lot of this stuff.

00:39:34.000 You know, the funny thing about it is they call him a conspiracy theorist, and I'm just like, uh-huh.

00:39:40.000 It doesn't mean he's wrong.

00:39:42.000 If you're not being called a conspiracy theorist, or far right, or some of these names, then you're not doing good anymore.

00:39:47.000 Have you seen that comedy bit?

00:39:49.000 I don't know the guy's name, it's a viral bit, and he's like...

00:39:52.000 He's like, you guys really don't believe in conspiracy theories?

00:39:56.000 Like, I can understand.

00:39:57.000 Ron Funches.

00:39:58.000 Is that what it was?

00:39:58.000 He's like, I can understand not believing all of them, but not even one.

00:40:01.000 Like, you think the government's just batting a thousand?

00:40:03.000 And he's like, I'm going to lighten the language for the family-friendly show.

00:40:06.000 But he goes, look, the government is tasked with looking over all of its people.

00:40:11.000 I've got one son.

00:40:13.000 I'm tasked with looking over him, and I lied to him all the time.

00:40:16.000 We should listen to that in members' owners.

00:40:18.000 That's such a great bit.

00:40:19.000 But he's right.

00:40:20.000 Totally right.

00:40:21.000 When they're like, Dan Bongino's a conspiracy theorist, and I'm like, good.

00:40:25.000 Because, hold on, let's just pause for a minute.

00:40:28.000 If you're in the FBI, and someone comes to you and says, Deputy Director, I have these photos of these two men.

00:40:36.000 They met in a parking garage carrying bags, and when they left, they're carrying different bags.

00:40:40.000 Now, I think, because if you follow this guy, he works for this pharmaceutical company, and this guy, he doesn't seem to have a job.

00:40:47.000 Now, I think what's happening is, imagine if the deputy director wasn't a conspiracy theorist, and he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, you think two guys who went to a parking garage and traded bags, you think there's a crime there?

00:40:57.000 You're a conspiracy theorist.

00:40:59.000 Nothing happened.

00:41:01.000 And imagine a deputy director like, Dan is going to be like, interesting.

00:41:04.000 It looks like a crime may have been committed, but let's move if we have probable cause, not just assume the back.

00:41:10.000 So you want someone in law enforcement to actually be able to connect dots and seek out probable cause should there be, or find the probable cause should there be any, or a preponderance of evidence should there be any.

00:41:21.000 A synonym for conspiracy theorist is historian.

00:41:25.000 You just know your history.

00:41:27.000 You know, like, read the book Chaos.

00:41:29.000 Read the book Poisoner in Chief.

00:41:30.000 That is really funny to point out that literally all of history is conspiracies.

00:41:33.000 Yes.

00:41:34.000 100%.

00:41:34.000 Yes.

00:41:35.000 Like, the Founding Fathers were engaged in a conspiracy.

00:41:38.000 Imagine it's 17, like, 1769 or whatever, and you're, like, in the Revolutionary War, and then you're running around going, like, a group of Americans are trying to overthrow the crown.

00:41:48.000 They're getting together and have these meetings where they're trying to form their own governments.

00:41:50.000 Is that calm?

00:41:51.000 Calm down, buddy. 1.00

00:41:52.000 You're nuts. 1.00

00:41:53.000 Trust me, I'm telling you. 1.00

00:41:54.000 You go to Britain and you're like, I'm telling you.

00:41:56.000 They're going to create their own country and they're going to call it America, but that's the name of the continent.

00:41:59.000 They're going to be like, yeah, yeah, buddy.

00:42:01.000 We're all Englishmen.

00:42:03.000 We'll never not be Englishmen.

00:42:05.000 Just because we're here doesn't mean we're not Englishmen.

00:42:08.000 America is founded on conspiracies.

00:42:10.000 But also, think about the nature of what a conspiracy theory is and what the phrase is intending to do.

00:42:17.000 They're trying to tell you, when they call you a conspiracy theorist, Mm-hmm.

00:42:22.000 Mm-hmm.

00:42:50.000 It was the precursor to far right.

00:42:54.000 Now they say he's a far right.

00:42:58.000 Far right, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:59.000 Far right, because conspiracy theorists just doesn't have the same oomph anymore.

00:43:05.000 What would happen if Dan Bongino, Cash, Trump, they're like, we're going to go in and figure out what the NSA is doing, and then some rogue employees just dump a bunch of...

00:43:22.000 That seems possible, I think.

00:43:28.000 Well, the challenge with it is, all the data the NSA has, it's too much for anyone to actually parse through.

00:43:35.000 True.

00:43:35.000 Like, where would it be hosted, even?

00:43:37.000 Right.

00:43:37.000 Russia?

00:43:38.000 Right.

00:43:39.000 But if there are rogue actors who are thinking, like, they've uncovered our weird kink chats, and they're about to expose us, let's release it all, you know?

00:43:48.000 That's interesting.

00:43:49.000 That'd be fun.

00:43:51.000 You know, I gotta be honest.

00:43:54.000 I don't know how to phrase this.

00:43:56.000 I don't think we'd be surprised by anything liberals do.

00:43:59.000 But I also don't think we'd be surprised by some of the things we learn about conservatives either.

00:44:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:04.000 Across the aisle. 0.99

00:44:05.000 That conservative guy was gay. 0.99

00:44:05.000 It's like, well, you know. 0.99

00:44:06.000 Makes sense.

00:44:07.000 That person was a furry this whole time?

00:44:09.000 Actually, the crazy thing is going to be when you figure out whose kid is whose.

00:44:13.000 You're like, so Justin Trudeau was...

00:44:15.000 Yeah, I knew it.

00:44:17.000 I'm a conspiracy theorist.

00:44:19.000 Yeah, that's a very interesting one.

00:44:20.000 Yo, it is pretty wild when you put Trudeau's face next to Castro, and it's like, bro.

00:44:25.000 Okay, let me just say.

00:44:26.000 In the image.

00:44:27.000 Let me just say this.

00:44:28.000 And I'm allowed to do this now because I'm a first-time dad for a couple of days, and I'm having experiences all you other dads have already had.

00:44:35.000 But my baby was born, and I'm like, look at that.

00:44:37.000 She looks kind of like me.

00:44:37.000 She's got little things on her ears.

00:44:39.000 I'm like, how about that?

00:44:42.000 You look at Justin Trudeau's face, and I'm like, look at it.

00:44:45.000 He's got the same nose.

00:44:46.000 He's got the same face.

00:44:46.000 Come on.

00:44:47.000 Straight up, that's his dad.

00:44:50.000 It has to be, really.

00:44:51.000 It's too uncanny.

00:44:52.000 It's not just that, but if you read about how much his mom loved Castro and how she was in Cuba at just the right time and she was, you know...

00:45:04.000 Well, I mean, there's arguments that the timeline doesn't actually line up properly or whatever, but I just gotta tell you, if you look at Trudeau's dad, like...

00:45:12.000 His actual publicly recognized dad, he didn't look anything like him.

00:45:15.000 And then you look at young Castro and it's like, there's kind of a resemblance there, but who knows?

00:45:19.000 I don't know.

00:45:20.000 Alright, let's jump to this story.

00:45:21.000 This one's spicy.

00:45:23.000 So, hey.

00:45:24.000 From the Post Millennial. 0.94

00:45:25.000 Dan Crenshaw says he would kill Tucker Carlson if they ever met.

00:45:29.000 Tucker invites him for a sit-down interview.

00:45:31.000 I kid you not, this story's blowing up.

00:45:34.000 What the...

00:45:35.000 I can't...

00:45:37.000 What is this?

00:45:38.000 It's a bad idea for congressmen.

00:45:41.000 That are former Navy SEALs to say things like this.

00:45:44.000 What happened to Dan Crenshaw, man?

00:45:46.000 I'm gonna play the video, but just let me just...

00:45:47.000 It's 10 seconds long.

00:45:48.000 I remember when he was first running, his first time, everybody was stoked on this guy.

00:45:52.000 They were like, he's pretty good.

00:45:53.000 Remember the ads?

00:45:54.000 The really cool ads?

00:45:55.000 He was doing everything.

00:45:55.000 Oh, those ads really freaked me out, but you'll come back to that.

00:45:58.000 Have you ever met Tucker?

00:45:59.000 We've talked a lot on Twitter.

00:46:03.000 Have I ever met him on the phone?

00:46:08.000 I mean...

00:46:10.000 To be fair, he said, I'm not joking, but I don't think he was literally expressing the intent to kill Tucker Carlson, but it's a very weird thing to say, and regardless, as a member of Congress, and as you mentioned, a former Navy SEAL, talking about a man who routinely receives death threats, to say that you will do that and that you're not joking, well, it doesn't matter what I think or my interpretation is, it matters that he said it and said he wasn't joking, so his intent is expressed.

00:46:40.000 Yeah.

00:46:41.000 It's a bad idea.

00:46:42.000 It's a very bad idea for congresspeople to say that.

00:46:44.000 It's a very, very bad idea for people that have been in, you know, have his training to say that.

00:46:50.000 It's...

00:46:51.000 All thumbs down, Dan.

00:46:53.000 All thumbs down.

00:46:55.000 Bad move.

00:46:56.000 Pete Davidson should have never apologized, in my opinion, to this guy.

00:47:00.000 Well, and then remember, he goes, MTG asked him, so did you really just threaten to kill Tucker?

00:47:04.000 And he goes, LOL, no.

00:47:06.000 It's on camera.

00:47:07.000 It's all on camera.

00:47:08.000 Of course he got the note.

00:47:09.000 It's on camera.

00:47:10.000 I honestly don't know if he's stable in the head.

00:47:12.000 I don't know that he's fit to serve any longer.

00:47:13.000 I genuinely believe that.

00:47:14.000 I don't know that he's stable enough to serve in the Congress anymore.

00:47:17.000 I mean, I don't think that I'm in a position to actually make that kind of call, but...

00:47:22.000 Here's the post.

00:47:23.000 I mean, look.

00:47:24.000 So, Steve Edganton, as I pronounce it, from GB News says...

00:47:28.000 Yeah.

00:47:29.000 This is amazing, okay?

00:47:31.000 He says, After our interview, I asked Dan Crenshaw if he had ever met Tucker Carlson. 0.69

00:47:35.000 He said that he'd kill him.

00:47:36.000 He laughed it off. 0.81

00:47:37.000 Watch my interview below.

00:47:39.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene says, Dan Crenshaw, did you threaten to kill my friend Tucker?

00:47:42.000 And Dan Crenshaw says, LOL, no.

00:47:45.000 And there's a proposed community note.

00:47:47.000 With video evidence of him saying it.

00:47:50.000 This is wild.

00:47:54.000 I don't know what happened to this guy.

00:47:59.000 It's a fall from grace, or maybe he's always been this way, because he was appealing to a lot of people on the right in the very beginning.

00:48:05.000 Those commercials you were talking about, that's when I was starting to be like, oh, this guy, I did not like.

00:48:09.000 He was trying to be like a Marvel character flying out of the sky.

00:48:12.000 It was when I think Arsenal was doing all those cool ads back then.

00:48:15.000 It was a lot.

00:48:16.000 It was a lot of CGI stuff, but I don't know.

00:48:19.000 He seemed at least to love what he did.

00:48:21.000 He seemed to love the country.

00:48:22.000 He seemed to be patriotic.

00:48:23.000 He seemed to be...

00:48:24.000 With his heart in the right place.

00:48:26.000 Now the only time I ever hear the guy is when he's blasting other people.

00:48:30.000 But he's hated by everybody.

00:48:30.000 Nobody likes him.

00:48:31.000 At least Kinzinger was like, I guess I'll be a Democrat.

00:48:34.000 He's like, okay, I get it.

00:48:35.000 You're going to pan it up.

00:48:36.000 Dan Crunch, I was like...

00:48:37.000 I'm going to be hated by everyone.

00:48:38.000 I think he just makes enough money in fundraising that nobody can seem to primary him because I don't understand how he continues to win primary.

00:48:44.000 He lied about how much money he made in stocks, right?

00:48:46.000 I forgot what the numbers were.

00:48:47.000 He's another good inside trader from what I understand.

00:48:50.000 He's nowhere near as good as Pelosi.

00:48:52.000 Nobody's as good as Pelosi.

00:48:53.000 I heard that he lives in a district with a lot of military manufacturing, and so he'll never lose because these people don't want to lose the pro-military industrial complex vote.

00:49:03.000 Like, look, if you work at a manufacturing plant that is going towards weapons of some sort, you want wars to continue.

00:49:08.000 Yes.

00:49:09.000 I mean, if this were a movie, it'd be too on the nose.

00:49:11.000 The guy with the eye patch.

00:49:12.000 Like, making money off the military-industrial complex.

00:49:15.000 Come on.

00:49:16.000 I mean, I gotta be honest.

00:49:17.000 Like, actually, there's a lot of movies that do it.

00:49:21.000 It's not too on the nose.

00:49:22.000 I just watched that one movie.

00:49:23.000 I can't remember what it was where, like...

00:49:25.000 There's like some army veterans are broke, so they're going to go rob a bank or something.

00:49:29.000 And they've got all those special, like they know how to combat, so they're able to do it more effectively or whatever.

00:49:34.000 The idea that's like a man comes back from two tours and he's been injured and maimed and the veterans affairs are not paying, the VA's not paying his health care or whatever, and he's got a family to take care of, so he goes rogue.

00:49:48.000 It's actually a normal thing.

00:49:53.000 But this guy came back and went to, like, Yale, right?

00:49:56.000 Did he?

00:49:57.000 Is he Yale educated?

00:49:58.000 Yale or Harvard or one of those Ivy Leagues.

00:49:59.000 He's an Ivy Leaguer, you know?

00:50:01.000 Yeah, I mean...

00:50:02.000 Maybe he got into the skulls.

00:50:04.000 Is that what it's called?

00:50:05.000 Skull and bones.

00:50:06.000 Skull and bones, yeah.

00:50:06.000 That's why he's got the eye patch, actually.

00:50:08.000 Well, I mean, you don't gotta...

00:50:09.000 Anybody can join.

00:50:10.000 That's true. 0.52

00:50:11.000 If you're a lizard, like the bushes.

00:50:15.000 I mean, you guys...

00:50:16.000 Have you ever seen those...

00:50:17.000 I'm sorry, but have you ever seen those videos on Instagram?

00:50:18.000 There are tons of them.

00:50:20.000 And they've been around for a while.

00:50:21.000 It's not just Instagram.

00:50:22.000 But it's like they catch people turning into lizards.

00:50:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:50:25.000 And it's just video compression artifacting. 0.98

00:50:27.000 It's like really dumb. 0.96

00:50:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:50:29.000 Wow. 0.99

00:50:30.000 Dude...

00:50:30.000 Billy Corgan on Rogan years ago said he saw someone turn into a lizard.

00:50:34.000 He didn't, but okay.

00:50:36.000 No, I think he did.

00:50:37.000 I need to know who that was.

00:50:40.000 I'm guessing Courtney Love. 0.81

00:50:41.000 Turn into a lizard.

00:50:43.000 I'm guessing it's Courtney Love.

00:50:44.000 I don't know, though.

00:50:44.000 Those stories in short context are like, you know, I once saw a politician turn into a lizard.

00:50:49.000 And you're like, whoa.

00:50:50.000 And then you're like...

00:50:52.000 Without that context?

00:50:54.000 Because then later on you find that guy and you're like, tell me the full story.

00:50:56.000 It's like, okay, Wells, hang out with my friends doing acid.

00:50:58.000 And then you're like, ah, stop, stop.

00:51:00.000 I'm gonna go.

00:51:01.000 No, I walked by Adam Schiff in real life and I saw he's got like two eyelids.

00:51:05.000 He's super slimy.

00:51:06.000 Something is genuinely wrong with him, too.

00:51:08.000 You can look at him and know something is very off with Adam Schiff.

00:51:11.000 He's worried.

00:51:12.000 He should be worried.

00:51:13.000 If you thought he was worried when Cash Patel was coming in.

00:51:16.000 Now Dan Bongino.

00:51:17.000 What happened at the Standard Hotel?

00:51:19.000 Adam Schiff?

00:51:20.000 What happened?

00:51:20.000 I'm willing to bet that, you know, maybe the first move made by Cash and Dan is going to be like, let's go see what Adam Schiff has been up to.

00:51:26.000 Yeah.

00:51:27.000 How many kids are in that basement?

00:51:29.000 Swalwell too?

00:51:30.000 Yeah.

00:51:30.000 Oh, wow.

00:51:31.000 Yes.

00:51:31.000 That's crazy.

00:51:32.000 And now he became a senator?

00:51:34.000 He's a senator.

00:51:35.000 California will elect anything.

00:51:37.000 It's unbelievable to me who gets elected in that seat.

00:51:39.000 It's so disheartening.

00:51:40.000 Like, he's such a...

00:51:42.000 I mean, he was censured as a congressperson, and then he gets a promotion?

00:51:48.000 Yeah.

00:51:49.000 What is wrong with the people in California?

00:51:52.000 What does that even cover, is what I want to know.

00:51:54.000 This is an interesting question for Bongino and Cash.

00:51:57.000 What does that pardon cover?

00:51:59.000 Is it just related to his work on the J6 stuff?

00:52:03.000 Or does that cover a lot of other stuff?

00:52:05.000 I mean, look, the people of California, they have the right to elect whoever they want to put into position of senator.

00:52:14.000 But, I mean, you... 0.77

00:52:16.000 You know that he's a dishonest person.

00:52:19.000 You know because he was censured for dishonesty.

00:52:22.000 You know that he was the guy that was most vocal about a BS line of...

00:52:31.000 I mean, it was just all BS about Trump and Russia.

00:52:34.000 He was the guy that was constantly saying that.

00:52:36.000 And then the people of California voted to put him into the upper chamber. 0.94

00:52:42.000 Supposedly, because the thing is, in the House, because they're every two years and because there's 435 of them, you're going to get clowns.

00:52:49.000 You're going to get dudes that are going to do wild and crazy stuff. 0.92

00:52:53.000 You're going to get people that are weirdos.

00:52:55.000 Sometimes they stick around.

00:52:57.000 Sometimes they don't.

00:52:57.000 That's why Maxine Waters is still there.

00:53:01.000 But when it comes to the Senate, they're supposed to be more deliberate.

00:53:04.000 They have longer appointments or terms.

00:53:08.000 And to think that the people of California said yes.

00:53:12.000 This is the guy that we want to represent us.

00:53:15.000 That is, you're literally just doing a total disservice to the whole state and to the country.

00:53:22.000 I believe there's a lot of red voters in that state. 0.94

00:53:25.000 It's just those cities.

00:53:25.000 It's actually the most Republicans in any state because of the size of the population.

00:53:29.000 And it's like New York.

00:53:30.000 My home state is a lot of red voters. 0.82

00:53:33.000 It's just the city ruins it for everyone.

00:53:34.000 Well, but they have the jungle primaries.

00:53:35.000 So there's no hope.

00:53:36.000 You have so many Democrats.

00:53:37.000 Usually it's the top two finishers are Democrats.

00:53:40.000 This time they had Steve, I think it was...

00:53:42.000 Not Steve Harvey.

00:53:43.000 Steve Garvey.

00:53:44.000 Steve Harvey would have been interesting, though.

00:53:45.000 Steve Harvey would have been much better than Schiff.

00:53:47.000 I'm interested in that, yeah.

00:53:48.000 Yeah, Steve Harvey couldn't do a worse job than Schiff.

00:53:50.000 That's at least he's...

00:53:51.000 I don't know who he was running against.

00:53:54.000 Steve Garvey, the baseball player.

00:53:56.000 Oh, really?

00:53:57.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:53:58.000 Who was a Republican.

00:53:59.000 Who is a Republican?

00:54:00.000 Who knows?

00:54:01.000 It's California.

00:54:01.000 When they run as Republicans, it's like, I'm a Republican.

00:54:04.000 But yeah, I hate Donald Trump, but I'm a Republican.

00:54:06.000 Exactly.

00:54:07.000 You don't know what kind of guy, or at least I don't know what kind of guy he was.

00:54:11.000 I don't know.

00:54:12.000 I would love to see what would happen in California.

00:54:14.000 If they would actually get a Republican who ran, not as a, like, you know, Lauren Boebert or Marjorie Taylor Greene, but somebody who ran as an actual staunch Republican with conservative values.

00:54:24.000 If they got Larry Elder.

00:54:25.000 Yeah.

00:54:26.000 Like, instead of these moderate squish people. 1.00

00:54:28.000 Maybe people would be shocked because I don't even think that the liberal voters like these people who are like, yeah, I'm going to be a Democrat, but not really.

00:54:36.000 Maybe they would respect it more if they actually said, yeah, I'm going to be a conservative.

00:54:39.000 That's who I am.

00:54:39.000 That's what I'm going to do.

00:54:40.000 Would that be better?

00:54:41.000 Maybe.

00:54:42.000 Who knows?

00:54:42.000 I would like to see someone that, I don't know.

00:54:45.000 I don't know what, you know, I don't know what California wants.

00:54:49.000 I know Orange County is kind of where all the Republicans have kind of like gathered for their last stand or whatever.

00:54:53.000 It's like the Alamo.

00:54:55.000 I've talked to a lot of people out there post.

00:54:57.000 The LA fires, and I was initially thinking that might change the way they vote, but they're like, no, they've already forgot.

00:55:03.000 They're just moving on, and they haven't changed the way they think about politics, despite everything burning to the ground.

00:55:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:10.000 It's unfortunate.

00:55:13.000 Well, look at Karen Bass. 1.00

00:55:15.000 She manages to remain mayor.

00:55:17.000 I mean, Maxine Waters, like you said, Phil, how do these people remain in public life at all?

00:55:23.000 They'd be laughed out of...

00:55:25.000 Because there are people who think Donald Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people.

00:55:29.000 Yeah?

00:55:29.000 Okay, sure.

00:55:30.000 Did you guys see the Elon Musk video that went viral?

00:55:32.000 Oh, that was sad.

00:55:33.000 Yeah, the one that said he left his kid and that he didn't leave the kid.

00:55:36.000 And it's got 20 million views on a bunch of subreddits.

00:55:38.000 And then there's clearly a full video where Elon checks three times to make sure his son is with him.

00:55:43.000 If anyone who watched that initial video saw that it was...

00:55:46.000 Cropped, in a way.

00:55:48.000 Remember the ABC News, Trump feeding the fish?

00:55:52.000 Shinzo Abe dumps the food and then Trump looks at him and goes, okay, and dumps the food.

00:55:56.000 They zoom in and crop it so it looks like Trump did something. 0.99

00:55:59.000 They're liars. 0.91

00:56:00.000 These videos are in conjunction with a constant stream of Trump's a bad guy. 0.90

00:56:05.000 So you get people that are emotionally inclined to dislike Trump, which there's a certain amount of our political perspectives comes just from who we are.

00:56:15.000 You're born...

00:56:17.000 And it's not that you're guaranteed, but you're born to have the inclination to be left-leaning.

00:56:21.000 You're born to have the inclination to be right-leaning.

00:56:24.000 There are certain things about different personalities that just are inside of you, right?

00:56:30.000 But that's also malleable depending on your experiences, depending on what you learn and stuff like that.

00:56:34.000 But when you get people that are inclined to be on the left, and then you feed them a straight-up, non-stop diet of, hey, this guy's Hitler, and they're probably on SSRIs, or they're probably on some kind of mood-altering drugs, or maybe they're neurotic, or something like that,

00:56:50.000 and you keep showing them the same, you spend all day long telling them how this is terrible, this guy's a Nazi, he's going to do this, he's going to do that, and then you show them a video that confirms their priors, they're going to share it with their friends, they're going to say, look, See, I told you so.

00:57:05.000 I just had a guy that I was...

00:57:08.000 He came to my feed, and after a few weeks, back and forth, he blocks me, of course.

00:57:13.000 But his whole thing is like, oh, Elon Musk is a Nazi.

00:57:17.000 And I'm like, what is it about Elon Musk that makes you think he's a Nazi?

00:57:22.000 What has he done? 0.94

00:57:23.000 And he's like, well, you know, he wants to murder people.

00:57:26.000 I'm like, you actually believe that Elon Musk wants to murder people?

00:57:32.000 Elon Musk was the one with Ben Shapiro.

00:57:34.000 All the anti-Semites hate Musk because they say he's too... 0.73

00:57:37.000 Now he is a Jewish kid. 0.83

00:57:40.000 What are you talking about?

00:57:41.000 But this illustrates my point.

00:57:43.000 It's not...

00:57:44.000 They don't have an opinion that reflects reality.

00:57:47.000 They're looking for things that confirm their priors.

00:57:50.000 They're looking for things that confirm what they want to believe.

00:57:54.000 And so that's why when Musk did the hand, you know, my heart goes out to you.

00:57:59.000 Show us what he did.

00:58:00.000 They're like, watch out.

00:58:01.000 Watch it, everybody.

00:58:03.000 What did he do?

00:58:03.000 Yeah, oh, nice.

00:58:04.000 Double six eyes.

00:58:05.000 But like, you know, that's what he, you know, it's like, oh, look, you know, look, he did the thing.

00:58:09.000 He did the thing.

00:58:11.000 And look, that means he did the thing.

00:58:13.000 That means that he...

00:58:14.000 It's all confirmation bias, right?

00:58:17.000 As you know, I think there's legitimate reasons to have criticisms for him.

00:58:21.000 But none of these things are that, right?

00:58:24.000 Like the cropped videos, the out-of-context stuff.

00:58:26.000 None of that's legitimate.

00:58:27.000 It just feeds the brain dead left.

00:58:29.000 Yeah, it does.

00:58:30.000 It's really annoying.

00:58:31.000 And it's not just really annoying.

00:58:33.000 It's really bad for people that are inclined to believe these things and people that are, again, on the margins.

00:58:39.000 People that are possibly a little on the mentally compromised side.

00:58:47.000 And this is something that the left does.

00:58:49.000 they want people that are borderline or mentally mentally compromised or that that are having struggles they want them to be upset because upset people will go out and do things like Luigi Maggiano did they'll go out and they'll do things like the guy that Climbed up on the roof in in Pennsylvania did well They'll do those kind of things if we are deeply concerned about what upset people might do we have this story from the post millennial and My show had value.

00:59:17.000 Joy Reid cries after MSNBC canceled her show.

00:59:20.000 Wrong-o! 1.00

00:59:21.000 Joy Reid has no value.

00:59:23.000 She cries.

00:59:24.000 It's very sad.

00:59:26.000 But also that my show had value.

00:59:29.000 No.

00:59:30.000 And that...

00:59:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:59:34.000 I'm not.

00:59:36.000 That what I was doing had value.

00:59:40.000 It clearly didn't, ma'am.

00:59:42.000 That's why nobody watched it and they fired you.

00:59:45.000 And in the end, I'm sorry, I try not to cry on TV. No, you're not on TV. Not anymore.

00:59:50.000 She's on Zoom.

00:59:51.000 And then it mattered.

00:59:53.000 I see Karen is there and she's been texting me as well.

00:59:57.000 And so what I will just say is that in the end, thank you.

01:00:02.000 Can I just, she was getting like, what, 50K viewers?

01:00:06.000 That would be surprising, honestly.

01:00:08.000 I don't know what she was getting.

01:00:09.000 In the key demo, her show, I think 68,000 last weekend or something like that was the reported numbers.

01:00:15.000 I just want to let you guys know that I can post a video of me giggling at a chicken and get more views than that.

01:00:24.000 This is something Joy Reid needs to consider.

01:00:27.000 Her opinions, nobody wants to hear them. 1.00

01:00:30.000 She is a horrible human being. 0.99

01:00:32.000 I don't usually take joy in watching people cry on camera, watching people suffer. 0.99

01:00:37.000 I really love her tears.

01:00:39.000 It brings me great pleasure to see her suffer.

01:00:41.000 She's so smug. 1.00

01:00:42.000 She's a disgusting, race-baiting, despicable human being. 1.00

01:00:45.000 She's racist? 1.00

01:00:45.000 She's smug? 1.00

01:00:46.000 She hates everyone in this room just because if she could kill us all, she would. 1.00

01:00:50.000 I think The View might hire her. 0.98

01:00:53.000 No, you don't even want her.

01:00:53.000 I think she'd be great, though.

01:00:55.000 I think she'd be great.

01:00:56.000 Wilbur don't want to compete with her.

01:00:57.000 I think her career is over. 1.00

01:00:58.000 To be the dumbest heifer in the world. 1.00

01:00:59.000 I mean, look at Don Lemon. 1.00

01:01:01.000 How's Don Lemon doing?

01:01:02.000 He's doing TikToks now.

01:01:03.000 He's doing TikToks.

01:01:04.000 Or he's in the Senate doing videos.

01:01:07.000 I don't know.

01:01:08.000 Anyway.

01:01:08.000 Don Lemon?

01:01:09.000 No.

01:01:10.000 Let's see how Don...

01:01:10.000 Hey, look.

01:01:11.000 Don Lemon's got half a million.

01:01:12.000 I think the videos we were talking about earlier.

01:01:13.000 The videos we were talking about earlier.

01:01:14.000 I don't want to hear Don Lemon.

01:01:15.000 Don Lemon's got half a million subs for some reason.

01:01:18.000 YouTube's still trying to save this guy.

01:01:20.000 Let's take a look at his views.

01:01:22.000 Okay, you know, look.

01:01:23.000 30,000?

01:01:24.000 Okay.

01:01:25.000 11,000?

01:01:26.000 No, I mean, let's, you know, here you go.

01:01:30.000 I work in the industry, guys.

01:01:31.000 I can give you some insights.

01:01:33.000 Let's see.

01:01:34.000 So, 30,000 views.

01:01:37.000 He's going to be doing like a...

01:01:38.000 He probably made like 500 bucks.

01:01:40.000 That's not bad.

01:01:41.000 I mean, how many of you would like to make a video where you talk to a guy on the internet and get paid 500 bucks for it?

01:01:47.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:47.000 So, Don Lemon.

01:01:49.000 He's probably making, at this level, he might be doing like 400k a year.

01:01:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:56.000 I'm sure he has to have something somewhere, right?

01:01:59.000 What do you mean?

01:02:00.000 There has to be another platform.

01:02:01.000 No, this one's got a lot.

01:02:03.000 He's the one who blew it with Elon, right?

01:02:05.000 Didn't Elon offer him something?

01:02:06.000 And he was like, I want to do the first space podcast.

01:02:09.000 I want to do it from Mars, where they should have left his sorry behind.

01:02:13.000 I mean, it makes no sense, to be completely honest, in why Don Lemon is getting any viewership at all, because he's not a merit-based personality.

01:02:24.000 Like, there are a lot of people who built from the ground up their platform, almost all of the podcasts you see, almost all of them, not all of them, are someone started a show and slowly built up to it.

01:02:34.000 So Don Lemon, to me, doesn't make a lot of sense.

01:02:37.000 But look, he's having a lemon party.

01:02:39.000 Is that what it says?

01:02:40.000 Oh, man.

01:02:41.000 A lemon party.

01:02:42.000 Listen, if you're an internet familiar with the internet, don't even.

01:02:46.000 So he's having a lemon watch party with Joy Reid.

01:02:51.000 Oh, it streamed 20...

01:02:52.000 He did this already.

01:02:53.000 Well, I'm not surprised.

01:02:55.000 Maybe she can start a YouTube channel and YouTube will prop her channel up for some reason and people will watch it. 1.00

01:02:59.000 Nice. 0.98

01:03:00.000 She's a horrible person. 0.97

01:03:02.000 Well, Don Lemon is too. 0.99

01:03:03.000 Yeah, I've never heard Don Lemon say things that were as explicitly racist as her. 0.95

01:03:08.000 She's far worse. 0.97

01:03:09.000 I don't care about white women's tears and now you're the one crying. 0.98

01:03:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:03:13.000 Cry a river, you horrible demon. 0.82

01:03:15.000 Yeah, well, the bigger question is for the likes of Caitlin Collins. 1.00

01:03:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:22.000 Chris Cuomo and Anderson Cooper.

01:03:23.000 These people don't have any high-level talent.

01:03:28.000 No.

01:03:28.000 So, let me break it down for you guys.

01:03:32.000 So, when we are launching TimCast IRL, many may ask, who does the production?

01:03:38.000 Well, Surge is controlling the cameras and volume and things like that in real time.

01:03:43.000 So, when the camera is switching, there's a human being pressing buttons.

01:03:45.000 As for story selection, Well,

01:04:17.000 My morning show is 90% me.

01:04:18.000 it's actually quite simple.

01:04:21.000 And then I've got people who will help post things.

01:04:23.000 So everything on YouTube, I will just upload it all and get it going.

01:04:27.000 And then we have people who will post them on other platforms.

01:04:30.000 And then story-wise, 99% of the time, I'm just pulling stories myself.

01:04:35.000 This is true for most independent podcasters.

01:04:39.000 Like Joe Rogan, how does he get guests?

01:04:42.000 Honestly, Joe hears about them and then reaches out or someone connects them.

01:04:46.000 You know, people always, there's a magic book, like, I want to go on Joe's show, and I was like, do you know Joe?

01:04:50.000 Like, he's just hanging out with his friends, man.

01:04:53.000 Joy Reid and most of his other TV personalities have no capability to do anything other than sit in front of a camera and read a teleprompter.

01:05:00.000 So, how could they possibly move to this space successfully?

01:05:05.000 Don Lemon, riding the coattails of the CNN brand, was able to muster up half a million subscribers.

01:05:11.000 But think about this.

01:05:12.000 Here's a guy getting paid millions of dollars.

01:05:15.000 That's the best he can do?

01:05:17.000 He's averaging, what, 20,000 views?

01:05:20.000 And he was getting this massive salary.

01:05:21.000 When you take these people out of their fake corporate element, they do not make it anywhere meaningful.

01:05:29.000 And I wouldn't be surprised if Don Lemon just simply ceases to exist in the long run.

01:05:32.000 Though, to be fair, maybe he figures it out, maybe he improves.

01:05:35.000 Joy Reid ain't gonna be able to set up a YouTube channel. 1.00

01:05:37.000 The amount of money it would cost her to hire people to do the production work that needs to be done for someone with no talent? 1.00

01:05:42.000 Yeah.

01:05:42.000 Not gonna happen.

01:05:43.000 No.

01:05:44.000 No, she's not going to make it.

01:05:46.000 She will not be around.

01:05:46.000 She'll write a book.

01:05:47.000 A few people will buy the book.

01:05:49.000 I don't know.

01:05:50.000 I don't agree.

01:05:52.000 You don't think she'll...

01:05:53.000 I mean, she has to read to her.

01:05:54.000 Does she know how to read?

01:05:55.000 Well, she probably knows how to read.

01:05:56.000 I don't know that if she wrote a book, anybody would want to pick it up or care about it.

01:05:59.000 This lady was getting 60,000 viewers. 1.00

01:06:02.000 Like, in the key demo.

01:06:04.000 So I think she did have a substantial, a couple hundred thousand, maybe it was like 500, 600,000 of people, 75 plus.

01:06:11.000 No disrespect to 75 plus, but that's not a key demo.

01:06:14.000 So what was the value of her show?

01:06:16.000 Riling up older folks?

01:06:18.000 Right.

01:06:19.000 Pretty much is that what I would assume it was just older.

01:06:21.000 Black church ladies and stuff. 1.00

01:06:23.000 No, seriously.

01:06:24.000 Her, Simone Sanders.

01:06:26.000 I mean, these are not people that are respected.

01:06:28.000 She doesn't speak anywhere.

01:06:30.000 Nobody goes to listen to her speak.

01:06:31.000 She's joyless.

01:06:33.000 She's heartless. 0.98

01:06:33.000 She's just nothing. 0.98

01:06:34.000 She's worthless. 0.99

01:06:35.000 So, you know, I wish her well. 0.82

01:06:37.000 I hope she has enough money to last a little while. 1.00

01:06:39.000 You just called her a demon.

01:06:40.000 I wish you well, though.

01:06:41.000 No, I wish you well.

01:06:42.000 I don't want to see somebody, like, drown out and become a cokehead. 1.00

01:06:46.000 But in reality, you know, she'll probably look like Justin Bieber looks in a couple of weeks. 0.97

01:06:50.000 Honest to God.

01:06:51.000 But that's alright.

01:06:52.000 With her Trump wig, I hope she can still afford one. 0.58

01:06:55.000 Ariana Grande.

01:06:56.000 Ariana Grande.

01:06:57.000 God, I hope she's okay.

01:06:59.000 She needs to get off the Olympic. 0.87

01:07:02.000 Oh, I don't think that's just Olympic.

01:07:05.000 I think that's seriously disorders right there.

01:07:07.000 It's terrible.

01:07:08.000 Man, the media industry is in for a shake-up, man.

01:07:12.000 Like, just the evolution that's happening before us.

01:07:15.000 We are seeing with the podcast presidency, and it's going to change, and I've been wondering about this.

01:07:20.000 Most of the big shows are homegrown.

01:07:22.000 Individuals who start, but it's starting to change.

01:07:24.000 And we're starting to see podcast plants.

01:07:28.000 This is a bit of a story.

01:07:30.000 People who look like they had a meritocratic growth, but it's not.

01:07:34.000 It's industry.

01:07:34.000 It's corporate.

01:07:35.000 It's all built up.

01:07:36.000 This will be the case.

01:07:38.000 I said this last year.

01:07:40.000 The beast will not just go, guess I lost.

01:07:43.000 These companies have hundreds of millions and billions of dollars, and they're going to say, oh, what happened?

01:07:48.000 Viewership trends have changed.

01:07:49.000 Everyone's doing podcasts.

01:07:51.000 How do we make identical podcasts?

01:07:53.000 Don't be surprised if within, like, a year there is a show identical in almost every way to Timcast IRL at 8 p.m.

01:08:00.000 with, like, liberals sitting around, and it looks like it's just some dudes hanging out.

01:08:05.000 But it's going to be a DNC backroom deal sponsored show or something like that.

01:08:09.000 Well, they keep saying.

01:08:10.000 The DNC keeps saying, we need an answer for Rogan.

01:08:13.000 We need an answer for all these podcasts because they don't have anything organic.

01:08:16.000 Who are they going to put?

01:08:17.000 Harry Sisson and Chris?

01:08:18.000 I mean, who's going to do their roundtable?

01:08:21.000 It would end up being on the table.

01:08:22.000 David Bagman, Kyle Kalinske, and Tyler Cohen.

01:08:25.000 Who?

01:08:26.000 Nightmare.

01:08:26.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:08:27.000 I gotta call you out for that.

01:08:28.000 Brian Tyler Cohen, I know.

01:08:29.000 Who's the other one?

01:08:30.000 David Pakman's got nearly three million subs and gets hundreds of millions of views on his videos.

01:08:34.000 I've never heard of him.

01:08:35.000 And that is a problem.

01:08:36.000 So all these conservatives sitting here gloating and cheering, being like, haha, look at Joy Reid, ignoring the fact that these other liberals are getting propped up, built up, and are building up massive channels, while simultaneously calling on the DNC to fund them, saying, we will be your answer to Joe Rogan.

01:08:51.000 Do you think the DNC... I'm sorry, real quick, I've got to point this out.

01:08:55.000 David Pakman, I hope your fans and followers clip this and share it with you, and I hope you see it and make a video about it.

01:09:00.000 David Pakman published a video calling Trump's all...

01:09:03.000 It was Trump like this with his hands on his head, and it said all-time worst approval or all-time lowest approval at a time where Trump is experiencing his highest aggregate approval of his career.

01:09:13.000 How could this man, David Pakman, I don't understand how you can title and make a video with a headline and a thumbnail...

01:09:20.000 Claiming Trump's approval rating is the lowest it's ever been when it's the inverse. 0.98

01:09:25.000 Because these people are professional liars. 0.95

01:09:27.000 It's what they do. 0.85

01:09:27.000 And they want money from the machine to continue lying to people. 0.85

01:09:31.000 That's what they are.

01:09:32.000 And I've got to tell you, man, he gets a lot of views on these videos.

01:09:36.000 If we just decided, you know what, how about we make a video where we show, we claim that, you know, let's make the story ten times worse.

01:09:46.000 Joy Reid cries on TV after being physically thrown out of MSNBC studio with all of her fans booing her and screaming at her.

01:09:53.000 We'd get a million views on that video.

01:09:55.000 None of it's true, though.

01:09:56.000 So we don't do that.

01:09:58.000 David Pakman, however, and not just him, but other liberals, actually make thumbnails and titles that are factually 100% false to get a ton of clicks, and it works, and YouTube props them up.

01:10:08.000 But hey, that's free speech.

01:10:09.000 I get it.

01:10:10.000 They're all a variety of a Jussie Smollett.

01:10:12.000 It's all a hoax.

01:10:13.000 It's all a lie.

01:10:14.000 He sounds like he's already on the DNC payroll.

01:10:16.000 They're propagandists, and that's what they do. 0.99

01:10:18.000 What do you think that the behavior of people like, you know, whether it be Pac-Man or No Lie with Nightclub...

01:10:26.000 I love Brian Taylor Cohen's show.

01:10:28.000 It's called No Lie.

01:10:29.000 He's literally the lioness dude on all of X. He spreads more BS than anybody I've ever seen.

01:10:37.000 The Democrats are really in a really bad spot.

01:10:41.000 I mean, even James Carville, who's like the guy from the 90s that really knew how to get people elected, he straight up said, Democrats should play possum.

01:10:49.000 Democrats should sit back and let the Republicans mess up.

01:10:53.000 And the reason he said that isn't because the Republicans are likely to mess up significantly.

01:10:58.000 It's because the Democrats are having a massive civil war and they can't figure out if they want to try to be the party of the working class or if they want to be the progressives that are concerned with centering the marginalized people.

01:11:12.000 Because they're going to lose the...

01:11:15.000 The Latino vote, because the people that are immigrants that have come to the country, they don't want to have illegal immigrants. 1.00

01:11:22.000 They want legal immigrants.

01:11:24.000 And those people are...

01:11:27.000 They're generally conservative.

01:11:28.000 They're still predominantly religious people.

01:11:32.000 And if you look in Texas, you see the way that Latinos, like second-generation Latinos, vote. 0.99

01:11:38.000 They're not all, but there's a significant portion of them, probably a majority, that vote conservative.

01:11:43.000 There were a couple districts right on the border that went red.

01:11:49.000 Half the border went red.

01:11:51.000 Let me show you some of this.

01:11:52.000 What do the Democrats do?

01:11:54.000 Let's revel in what is the David Pakman show.

01:11:57.000 David, I have no problem.

01:11:58.000 I'll say this.

01:11:59.000 So he made a video where he claimed that I and Milo Yiannopoulos claimed that he was funded by USAID or something.

01:12:05.000 I never said that.

01:12:06.000 I made the point that there are non-profits we know that buy ad spots on prominent liberal podcasts.

01:12:13.000 With some of these non-profits losing funding, I wonder if we're going to see any announcement from podcasts that the revenue is drying up or something like this.

01:12:19.000 Never accused anyone directly of doing it.

01:12:21.000 Milo responded, David Pakman.

01:12:22.000 As if to imply that Pacman was willfully or knowingly taking money through circuitous methods from USAID. I never said that.

01:12:28.000 But that's the game he plays.

01:12:30.000 Lawyers warning me.

01:12:32.000 Trump is coming after you.

01:12:33.000 765,000 views.

01:12:35.000 The picture is Trump pointing at him with his face palm.

01:12:37.000 Then you've got Trump's cognitive health, 476,000.

01:12:41.000 Taking total control.

01:12:42.000 The total control one is the only one that I actually respect.

01:12:45.000 In a certain degree.

01:12:46.000 It's not total control.

01:12:48.000 Trump has control as the executive branch.

01:12:50.000 Trump deranged rant 440,000.

01:12:52.000 Those are fine.

01:12:53.000 All-time lowest approval.

01:12:55.000 Disaster already.

01:12:57.000 That's just factually false.

01:13:00.000 Trump's enjoying some of the best approval ratings he's ever had in his career.

01:13:03.000 I expect it to go down.

01:13:04.000 Is Mike Pence his co-host?

01:13:06.000 Apparently so.

01:13:07.000 He should be.

01:13:08.000 So, you look at when he doesn't play this weird clickbait game.

01:13:11.000 Elon Musk is doing the acute source.

01:13:13.000 He's 28,000, 84,000.

01:13:15.000 And then when he does play the obvious absurdities, bro, no one's coming.

01:13:21.000 Lawyers warning liberals, Trump's going to come after you, David. 0.99

01:13:24.000 Oh, shut up. 1.00

01:13:26.000 Stupidest thing imaginable. 1.00

01:13:27.000 But this is the world we live in where people like him make crap up. 1.00

01:13:31.000 Like, this one is the most. 0.99

01:13:32.000 I'm sorry.

01:13:33.000 It's not the worst he's ever done.

01:13:34.000 He's done a lot of stuff like this.

01:13:36.000 Disaster already.

01:13:37.000 We get it, dude.

01:13:37.000 You've got nothing to talk about.

01:13:41.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:13:43.000 I still don't know what the Democrats do.

01:13:46.000 I don't know where they go from here.

01:13:48.000 The brand is broken, and they have no talent.

01:13:51.000 They have nobody on the bench that's really great.

01:13:53.000 I don't agree that they have no talent.

01:13:55.000 Who's great?

01:13:56.000 So they have people that have charisma, right?

01:14:00.000 AOC has a lot of charisma.

01:14:01.000 You can't put that in a national context.

01:14:03.000 I disagree with you.

01:14:05.000 I think that they can.

01:14:05.000 But listen, the point isn't just about the talent.

01:14:08.000 The point is the actual party has to decide what they're going to do.

01:14:13.000 And if they go with the progressives that hate the rich, they're going to lose all their funding.

01:14:18.000 Right.

01:14:18.000 Because the progressives, you're going to lose any kind of wealthy Jewish people.

01:14:23.000 They're not going to support them because the progressives absolutely hate Israel and they literally are on the side of Hamas.

01:14:30.000 You're going to lose anybody that's got any kind of capital because they want to get rid of wealth tax.

01:14:37.000 They want to tax people based on their net worth, not on the actual money they make and stuff.

01:14:43.000 So the Progressive Party will have no funding and the Democrat...

01:14:48.000 The whole Democrat party will fall apart then, but that might be where the energy is.

01:14:53.000 The young people are more on the progressive side, the Democrats that are young.

01:14:58.000 And then you've got, like, the normal kind of middle-of-the-road Democrats that are still kind of like Democrats that haven't moved over to the, I'm not a leftist, and they're still trying to save the party.

01:15:09.000 People like Richie Torres, people like...

01:15:12.000 I don't know, there's people.

01:15:13.000 What did you have on the show in D.C. when you guys were there?

01:15:16.000 Ro Khanna?

01:15:17.000 Yeah, Ro Khanna's good.

01:15:18.000 Ro Khanna kind of walks between the two.

01:15:21.000 Well, I would say Ro Khanna's nice, but his logic is that of the destroying America kind of. 0.98

01:15:26.000 Yeah, but I think he's a good person, let's put it that way, as opposed to many of these people that are just terrible people. 0.99

01:15:32.000 I would just say, if Ro Khanna is a good person, he's a deeply, deeply ignorant and dangerously ignorant person. 0.98

01:15:38.000 Yes, I believe that. 0.99

01:15:38.000 I liked his takes during the Twitter files. 0.99

01:15:40.000 Exactly.

01:15:41.000 When you're talking about censorship.

01:15:42.000 He says the right thing more than most Democrats, right?

01:15:46.000 But his worldview is that illegal immigrants are legitimate immigrants who should be protected.

01:15:52.000 And that's something that the general population of the United States doesn't agree with.

01:15:58.000 What are the Democrats going to do?

01:16:00.000 Let's jump to this story from NBC News.

01:16:02.000 Doge will use AI to assess the responses of federal workers who were told to justify their jobs via email.

01:16:08.000 Trump then said anyone who doesn't will be fired.

01:16:12.000 We know that Tulsi, the DOD, Cash have told their departments or their branches respectively, do not respond to this.

01:16:19.000 Cash, I think, said we'll put a pause on this.

01:16:21.000 Tulsi said don't respond.

01:16:22.000 We'll handle our stuff internally.

01:16:24.000 But this is fascinating in that one of the biggest scandals in American history with the news losing their minds is that a special employee to the government, to the president, just said, so what do you do here?

01:16:39.000 Democrats are freaking out.

01:16:41.000 They don't want the emails to be answered.

01:16:44.000 They're calling it power struggles.

01:16:46.000 In what reality would we allow people at any company to ignore emails and not explain the job they are doing?

01:16:55.000 And then cry about having to even get these emails.

01:16:58.000 They're acting so traumatized.

01:16:59.000 So I flew here yesterday.

01:17:01.000 I was on, when you get into Dulles, you got to go on that little train to go over to the main terminal and do customs.

01:17:07.000 There was this lesbian in front of me. 1.00

01:17:09.000 And she was telling her partner, oh, I got this.

01:17:12.000 She was HHS. She was telling the partner that she got the email and she didn't respond.

01:17:15.000 She almost did until she realized where it was coming from.

01:17:18.000 Like when it hit her that it was Elon Musk.

01:17:20.000 And, oh, I'm not responding. 0.97

01:17:22.000 She's bragging to her lesbian lover next to her. 1.00

01:17:24.000 About how she's not responding. 0.81

01:17:26.000 Why is that woman working for the government? 1.00

01:17:28.000 I shut up. 1.00

01:17:29.000 I shut up because I'm going to train before customs. 0.98

01:17:32.000 I don't want to get in trouble before I cross the border. 0.97

01:17:34.000 But why is this psychopath woman allowed to say these things? 1.00

01:17:39.000 I'm not responding because I saw who it come from. 0.81

01:17:41.000 Because it came from Elon?

01:17:42.000 Imagine.

01:17:43.000 You work for us.

01:17:44.000 We pay your salary.

01:17:45.000 But get out.

01:17:46.000 Imagine somebody working for Burger King.

01:17:48.000 Yeah.

01:17:48.000 And they're standing there and the boss walks up and goes, hey, we're pretty swamped.

01:17:52.000 Can you take the garbage out?

01:17:52.000 And they turn around, I ain't taking the garbage out.

01:17:54.000 It's like, okay, well, you're not going to work here.

01:17:55.000 Exactly.

01:17:56.000 Just quit.

01:17:57.000 Leave. 0.99

01:17:57.000 Get out. 0.99

01:17:58.000 Get lost.

01:17:59.000 But these people want to work for the government because the government is a free paycheck.

01:18:02.000 Yes.

01:18:02.000 And they haven't had to do any work for a long time.

01:18:04.000 But she's a subversive. 1.00

01:18:05.000 I mean, it's just one.

01:18:06.000 I don't know what she does.

01:18:07.000 She could be a janitor. 1.00

01:18:08.000 I don't know what she was. 0.94

01:18:09.000 She was just some nutcase that was in front of me on this little team. 1.00

01:18:13.000 You're going to be like senior counsel to the defense of Joe Biden. 1.00

01:18:15.000 She's a subversive parasite. 1.00

01:18:17.000 These are subversive parasites. 1.00

01:18:19.000 And that's why things don't get done. 0.96

01:18:20.000 That's why when Elon was talking the other day about Trump puts the executive order and they don't get enforced, they don't even get done at all.

01:18:26.000 This is why.

01:18:27.000 Because this parasite thing that was in front of me is running the show over there. 0.99

01:18:31.000 It's a disgrace. 1.00

01:18:32.000 They should be thrown out. 1.00

01:18:33.000 They should be thrown out.

01:18:34.000 And frankly, if they're subverting the president's orders or the orders of the secretary, and you're working for the government, you should be charged.

01:18:42.000 Well, I don't know about what charges exist for that.

01:18:45.000 Well, there should be something.

01:18:46.000 What?

01:18:46.000 I disagree.

01:18:47.000 Subverting the will of the guy?

01:18:49.000 Like subverting?

01:18:49.000 Being lazy at work doesn't put you in jail.

01:18:51.000 I don't know if it's laziness.

01:18:52.000 I don't know if it's laziness.

01:18:53.000 Yeah, it's not about me.

01:18:54.000 I think what he's referring to is malicious compliance.

01:18:58.000 Yeah.

01:18:59.000 Doing things that they say to do.

01:19:01.000 Yes, and just not doing it.

01:19:03.000 I disagree.

01:19:04.000 Completely disagree.

01:19:05.000 You get fired.

01:19:06.000 That's it.

01:19:06.000 If somebody is hired by a company, and then you're like, take the garbage out, so they dump the garbage in the ground, you don't get arrested.

01:19:12.000 You say, okay, you're fired.

01:19:13.000 No, but you're working for the government.

01:19:13.000 I don't care.

01:19:14.000 Government doesn't get special action to imprison people who are stupid. 0.99

01:19:19.000 I get what you're saying, but the point is, if somebody works for the government, and the boss says, you need to handle this report for this institution, and they go, okay, and they do it wrong, the boss is going to be like, you subverted my will, so we're charging you. 1.00

01:19:32.000 That's ridiculous. 0.87

01:19:32.000 You do a bad job, you get fired. 0.87

01:19:33.000 That's all it is.

01:19:34.000 Somebody works for the government, and they're like, I'm not going to do my job.

01:19:37.000 It's like, well, there's the door.

01:19:37.000 That's it.

01:19:38.000 Goodbye.

01:19:39.000 Get out.

01:19:40.000 And what we're dealing with right now is you've got hundreds of thousands, millions of federal employees and you've got people who actively don't work and they think they should get free money from us.

01:19:54.000 They should be fired.

01:19:55.000 That's it.

01:19:56.000 It's real simple.

01:19:57.000 Now, I do think the email is clever in that it says if you don't respond, it'll be presumed as a resignation because Well, now they've just quit.

01:20:07.000 So you don't need to go through any of the weird...

01:20:11.000 You go through some of it.

01:20:11.000 They're going to try and make claims.

01:20:13.000 But I've got to be honest.

01:20:14.000 If they send out an email and say, please respond to this email, and you do not, now it's insubordination.

01:20:22.000 Now it's dereliction of duty.

01:20:23.000 So if they send out one email every day, the deadline is tonight.

01:20:27.000 If they send out one email, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, saying, we've not heard from you.

01:20:32.000 Please respond.

01:20:33.000 We're awaiting your response.

01:20:35.000 After the second or third email, they have a clean termination.

01:20:37.000 Yeah.

01:20:38.000 Because then they're going to sue and be like, oh, why did I get fired?

01:20:40.000 They're going to be like, well, anybody who wasn't answering their work emails to the project they were on got let go.

01:20:45.000 I mean, that's just dereliction of duty.

01:20:47.000 Right.

01:20:47.000 Goodbye.

01:20:48.000 I mean, I don't think that should be particularly controversial.

01:20:52.000 I imagine that if that did happen, that would be another situation where they would try to bring it before courts.

01:20:57.000 They would try and challenge it in courts.

01:20:59.000 And I say bring it on because these kind of challenges in courts will result in the court deciding the president has the Article II power.

01:21:09.000 The bureaucracy does not.

01:21:11.000 If you don't do your job, we're going to fire you.

01:21:15.000 What I want to know with these people is how hard is it to go into ChatGPT or Grok or somewhere and just ask them, what should a person in my position be doing on any given day?

01:21:26.000 It's not like he's like, yo, send evidence.

01:21:27.000 No, they're not asking for evidence.

01:21:29.000 They're not asking for anything. 1.00

01:21:30.000 They're too stupid or too ridiculous or whatever the word is. 1.00

01:21:34.000 I don't know what the word is. 1.00

01:21:36.000 They can't even figure out how to do that.

01:21:37.000 They have to go cry on CNN. And any one of them that went to the media and cried about it, they should be fired on the spot.

01:21:44.000 The minute they get, before they even end the hit on the TV, they get a text, you don't come back in.

01:21:50.000 I mean, look, there's not a way that anyone will get fired that I will disagree with.

01:21:58.000 If you can come up with a reason to fire someone in the government, fire them.

01:22:01.000 I was watching clips today from CNN, Kevin Leary, Leary O'Leary.

01:22:07.000 The Shark Tank guy.

01:22:09.000 He was on CNN and he was talking about cutting and he's like, you cut and cut.

01:22:15.000 He's like, you might cut into some meat, but now that you have the opportunity, you cut and you cut and you cut and you cut.

01:22:21.000 That's what you do in business, blah, blah, blah.

01:22:23.000 And they were mortified.

01:22:26.000 Absolutely mortified.

01:22:28.000 But that's really what you should do.

01:22:29.000 If you make massive, massive cuts and you overdo it, you can replace those people.

01:22:36.000 You can.

01:22:36.000 You can find someone.

01:22:37.000 You can offer them the job back.

01:22:39.000 You can find other people that are qualified to do the job.

01:22:42.000 There will be people that want to do the job.

01:22:44.000 Make the cuts while you have the opportunity.

01:22:47.000 Trump might actually build back better.

01:22:51.000 You should probably use that slogan next.

01:22:53.000 Steal it from Europe. 0.99

01:22:55.000 Biden stole that slogan from Europe.

01:22:56.000 Everybody did.

01:22:57.000 Everybody used it.

01:22:58.000 They used it in Haiti.

01:23:00.000 The Clintons used it in Haiti years ago.

01:23:02.000 But I mean, it's funny because didn't Biden plagiarize that Irish guy in the 80s?

01:23:06.000 All he ever did is plagiarize.

01:23:07.000 The man has never had an original thought in his life.

01:23:09.000 Career plagiarist, yeah.

01:23:10.000 Like, he never has had an original thought.

01:23:13.000 Well, he doesn't really matter much now, does he?

01:23:15.000 No, not at all.

01:23:16.000 He's got, you know, he's with the CAA. He's on the talent agency.

01:23:20.000 And Kamala signed to it too, the talent agency.

01:23:23.000 It's interesting how they all go straight there.

01:23:25.000 No, Biden's going to have no post-presidency.

01:23:27.000 He's just going to sit in that house in Delaware and run away.

01:23:30.000 He was dead before he even left. 0.91

01:23:32.000 I mean, the brain is gone.

01:23:33.000 Well, yeah, look, I mean, some people, like, the time for your, you know, time for you to be in the public eye, when that time ends, it's different for everybody.

01:23:44.000 For Biden, it was probably four or five years ago.

01:23:47.000 It was actually.

01:23:47.000 The Biden library will be a mausoleum.

01:23:50.000 The Biden library.

01:23:52.000 What are you going to have?

01:23:53.000 While we're still in the segment, I'll address two comments because we normally save super chats.

01:23:57.000 But we had one comment from someone who said that I was either intentionally or egotistically ignoring the point that people who intentionally do wrong in the federal government should be charged.

01:24:08.000 I believe if you have a job and you intentionally don't do your job, the penalty should be termination.

01:24:15.000 I don't care if you're working for the government or the private sector.

01:24:17.000 You get hired to do a job and you're like, I'm going to do the opposite.

01:24:20.000 It's like, okay, you're fired.

01:24:21.000 If you steal money to go on vacation, that's a crime.

01:24:25.000 But if someone's like mop the floor and then you kick over a two liter of Coke, it's like, get out.

01:24:29.000 You don't go to jail for that.

01:24:31.000 If someone says something like, hey, file this paperwork by the end of the week, and then you're like, no, and then you don't do it.

01:24:37.000 You don't go to jail for that.

01:24:38.000 If someone shredded a bunch of classified documents destroying important government paperwork, that's destruction of property.

01:24:44.000 Like, those crimes, they already exist.

01:24:47.000 Not doing your job properly is not a crime.

01:24:50.000 Destroying government property, those things are already crimes.

01:24:54.000 And then Kako said, you wanted to charge pods for flying illegals, but not government workers who defy orders.

01:25:01.000 Those are so radically different.

01:25:04.000 A pilot who knows they are smuggling, and it is literally smuggling, an illegal immigrant comes on their plane holding a document saying they're not a citizen and they have no right to travel this country, no ID to prove who they are, and the pilot goes, fine by me, you're smuggling.

01:25:18.000 Let's put it this way.

01:25:19.000 You own a plane.

01:25:20.000 Small little five-seater.

01:25:23.000 And some guy walks up and says, I'm not a citizen, I have no right to fly in this country, and I'm here illegally.

01:25:28.000 And you're like, well, I guess hop on board.

01:25:30.000 I'm getting paid for this.

01:25:31.000 That's called being a human smuggler. 0.68

01:25:33.000 You work for a commercial airline and then go, my boss told me I have to fly these people.

01:25:38.000 They're not here legally.

01:25:39.000 They have documents proving they're not here legally.

01:25:41.000 They didn't show their IDs, but it's fine.

01:25:44.000 I'm like, yeah, you're just a higher-end human smuggler.

01:25:47.000 It's almost like...

01:25:49.000 Come on.

01:25:51.000 You know what?

01:25:52.000 I was going to get a little unfa...

01:25:53.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:25:53.000 I was going to make a crude joke about some...

01:25:56.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:25:57.000 I'm not going to do it.

01:25:57.000 But let's just say...

01:25:59.000 If you are knowingly transporting illegal immigrants for cash in any capacity, you're a smuggler. 0.73

01:26:06.000 You go to jail for that.

01:26:08.000 Kamala.

01:26:10.000 All of them.

01:26:11.000 But we're talking about pilots on planes.

01:26:13.000 And these stories were that there were planes full of illegal immigrants holding documents saying undocumented citizens.

01:26:19.000 I'm sorry, undocumented immigrants. 1.00

01:26:21.000 The left called them undocumented citizens.

01:26:22.000 Go to the Phoenix airport.

01:26:24.000 And these are pilots being like, whatever.

01:26:26.000 So what about working for a large corporate airline shields you from being a smuggler?

01:26:30.000 Nothing.

01:26:31.000 Would you say the Border Patrol?

01:26:32.000 Because when I was in Yuma, those Border Patrol are loading them up on the vans, giving them rides to the airport.

01:26:39.000 I'm in jail.

01:26:39.000 Right.

01:26:39.000 That's part of the smuggling.

01:26:41.000 Yes.

01:26:42.000 And they go, but Biden told me to do it.

01:26:44.000 I'm like, oh, yeah.

01:26:45.000 The smugglers over there, they have a boss too.

01:26:47.000 Should we not arrest them?

01:26:49.000 Well, but their boss is a bad guy.

01:26:50.000 How do you know?

01:26:51.000 Their boss might be the mayor of a city.

01:26:52.000 The boss might be way better than Biden because what was going on was unbelievable.

01:26:55.000 No, that border stuff, it was straight up human trafficking.

01:26:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:59.000 Like four years of legal human trafficking.

01:27:02.000 And child human trafficking.

01:27:04.000 Absolutely.

01:27:04.000 Like hundreds of thousands of kids.

01:27:05.000 Sexual exploitation.

01:27:06.000 The stuff that went on.

01:27:07.000 How many kids are missing?

01:27:09.000 I mean, they said 300,000.

01:27:11.000 If they said 300,000, who knows how many it really is?

01:27:14.000 That's probably double at the very least.

01:27:15.000 Yeah, because there's some of those bridges on the border down there that are just covered in pictures of missing kids.

01:27:20.000 It's so sad.

01:27:22.000 It's so sad.

01:27:23.000 It's evil.

01:27:24.000 Yeah.

01:27:25.000 So Kako is making the argument that a government worker who defies orders should be imprisoned.

01:27:30.000 Yeah, that's actual fascism.

01:27:31.000 I don't want to live in that country.

01:27:32.000 I don't live in a country where you have a guy saying, like, let's say the task is rather mundane because what we're talking about, federal workers being fired, is a lot of these jobs are rather mundane, filing paperwork and reconciling expense reports.

01:27:45.000 So a guy comes in and says, we got an expense report for, you know, $17,000 for a trip that was done by a few delegates.

01:27:51.000 I want you to reconcile.

01:27:52.000 And he goes, I'm not going to do it.

01:27:54.000 They should arrest that person?

01:27:56.000 That's insane to me.

01:27:57.000 You say, okay, get out.

01:27:58.000 We'll get someone who will.

01:27:59.000 I'm going to jail for that.

01:28:01.000 And there's a dramatic difference between that and someone being like...

01:28:03.000 Now imagine if the boss came in and says, we've got this expense report for a trip a few delegates took, totaling $17,000.

01:28:11.000 But I stole 13 of it, so I want you to write in there that 13 of it went to travel and expenses so that I don't go to jail.

01:28:18.000 If that person goes, you got it, boss, then they should all go to jail.

01:28:21.000 That's flying a plane for a major corporation knowing you're smuggling illegal immigrants and being like, my boss told me to do it. 1.00

01:28:28.000 You see the difference?

01:28:30.000 Now, I'll tell you this.

01:28:32.000 What if defying orders, what if the orders are illegal?

01:28:35.000 Oh, well, now that's different.

01:28:36.000 Okay, what if the person thinks the orders are illegal?

01:28:38.000 You see, this is the problem.

01:28:39.000 If someone doesn't want to do a job, you fire them.

01:28:41.000 If somebody worked for an airline and a bunch of people came in who are clearly not illegal immigrants, they had those documents, they had folders that said, like, help, I'm an illegal immigrant.

01:28:51.000 They didn't have IDs and they were being let on these planes.

01:28:54.000 If I was a pilot in that situation, I'd get up and be like, no.

01:28:57.000 And they'd be like, you can't do that.

01:28:58.000 We'll fire you. 0.63

01:28:58.000 I'm not committing a crime. 0.63

01:29:00.000 Are you nuts? 0.98

01:29:01.000 Don't worry. 0.99

01:29:01.000 This one's legal. 0.99

01:29:02.000 Yeah, says you.

01:29:04.000 Why would I expose myself to legal criminal liability in this regard?

01:29:07.000 Should that person be fired or penalized for that?

01:29:10.000 No, they should be given a medal.

01:29:12.000 So, yeah.

01:29:14.000 There you go.

01:29:17.000 I don't have a problem with people going to jail or being investigated and prosecuted for...

01:29:24.000 Refusing to file an expense report?

01:29:25.000 No, for intentionally going out of their way to frustrate the orders of the president or of the organization they're working for.

01:29:35.000 But what does that mean?

01:29:37.000 Because how do you codify that?

01:29:38.000 So if you're, like I said...

01:29:40.000 The idea is malicious compliance.

01:29:44.000 If you're doing something that you're told to do and you're doing it in a way that is actually going to produce results counter to...

01:29:52.000 Whatever it is that you're trying to do.

01:29:54.000 You think people should go to jail for that?

01:29:55.000 You should get prosecuted.

01:29:56.000 Maybe not go to jail, but maybe you get fined.

01:29:58.000 But there should be legal repercussions.

01:30:00.000 Maybe they don't go to jail.

01:30:01.000 Maybe they get put on probation.

01:30:03.000 Maybe it's not a felony.

01:30:04.000 But there's nothing wrong with saying, when it comes to the federal government, yeah.

01:30:08.000 Because you're trying to frustrate the will of the elected representative.

01:30:13.000 The difficulty there is in any way to prove intent with malicious compliance.

01:30:19.000 Certainly, in some instances, you can.

01:30:21.000 But that seems absolutely wild because a lot of these circumstances are going to be things like filing expense reports.

01:30:26.000 Fair enough.

01:30:26.000 And so if you don't have the evidence, you know, fine.

01:30:31.000 Yeah, but I still think that's just absolutely insane.

01:30:33.000 I mean, if we're talking about, like...

01:30:35.000 We need these classified documents to be delivered to the office of the president now because there's a national security crisis, and they intentionally, and they're told to go to room 101A, and they go to room 101A in the West Wing and go, oopsie daisies, and you're like, you intentionally withheld classified information to national security.

01:30:51.000 That's absolutely different.

01:30:52.000 So you, yeah, you can't, but you can't prove that they didn't.

01:30:54.000 But we're not talking about that.

01:30:55.000 We're talking about federal workers, which include, like...

01:31:00.000 The reason I say expense reports is a lot of these are bureaucrats who deal with Form 1A being emailed to johnsmith at whitehouse.gov.

01:31:08.000 And we're talking about putting people in prison for being like, I sent it to the email you told me to, but it was the wrong one.

01:31:14.000 I'm not saying that it necessarily requires prison.

01:31:16.000 I'm saying in any way prosecuting a person for malicious compliance to me is just absolutely insane.

01:31:23.000 There are stories where it's like...

01:31:27.000 There's a subreddit dedicated to this, r slash malicious compliance.

01:31:30.000 And so let's talk about what this would look like. 0.95

01:31:32.000 In most of these stories, it is, boss was stupid and wrong and told me to do a thing, so I did it and it screwed things up. 0.99

01:31:39.000 So a mid-level manager in a federal agency says, recently hired. 0.99

01:31:44.000 There's a guy who handles tax paperwork and expense reports, and he's been there for 10 years.

01:31:49.000 The new manager guy says, The policy and procedure is that you do it this way.

01:31:53.000 And they go, I'm not supposed to do it that way.

01:31:55.000 I'm supposed to do it this way.

01:31:56.000 And say, well, you're doing what I'm telling you to do.

01:31:58.000 And they go, okay.

01:31:59.000 If that's what you want, knowing that the instructions were wrong, they then send the files to the wrong email address, jamming up the functions of government, knowing it would happen.

01:32:09.000 The idea that we would then be like, you should be criminally charged for doing that is insane to me.

01:32:15.000 This is typically what these stories are.

01:32:16.000 Well, again, I'm not saying that it's...

01:32:19.000 Every single instance that someone could possibly behave in that way should be prosecuted.

01:32:27.000 But I think that having it as an option, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

01:32:29.000 So where do you think about this?

01:32:30.000 This whistleblower I've been talking to with the FBI, she was a quality assurance auditor for the name check program. 0.70

01:32:36.000 And years ago she saw that there was all these discrepancies with names in the database.

01:32:40.000 And they kept being, certain names were kept in limbo during background checks.

01:32:45.000 Went to her leadership.

01:32:46.000 They said, literally, fly under the radar.

01:32:48.000 Don't talk about it.

01:32:49.000 She kept going back saying this is a problem.

01:32:51.000 She believes that some of these things would lead to, like, a Thomas Crook situation, or how there's so much incompetence with the security.

01:32:57.000 Would the leaders, in your opinion, both you guys, all three of you, think that those people should be arrested or just fired for allowing discrepancies in a name-check program?

01:33:09.000 What they're doing could lead to disasters.

01:33:12.000 So you're talking about people being lazy in the government?

01:33:14.000 Is it lazy?

01:33:14.000 Is it criminal?

01:33:16.000 Is it lazy incompetence or is it, yeah, on purpose?

01:33:18.000 I think my point is just that there should be recourse possible, not that it's necessary.

01:33:25.000 Let's say it's a Biden administration and the CBP is instructed to start allowing all sex traffickers to transport children into prostitution and sex slavery, which literally they were doing.

01:33:38.000 And then you've got government workers being like, I will not file this paperwork.

01:33:41.000 Are you kidding me?

01:33:43.000 And then they get arrested and go to jail.

01:33:45.000 Or criminally charged or prosecuted because there's codified law saying the interference in public duties is a crime if you work for the government.

01:33:52.000 Put that in front of a jury and see what the jury says.

01:33:55.000 Have you seen a D.C. jury?

01:33:58.000 It might look different now.

01:34:00.000 Federal juries' conviction rates are like 97%.

01:34:03.000 These are hypotheticals.

01:34:04.000 And your point about having 97% conviction rates, that would lead me to believe that the administration wouldn't want that to be put publicly.

01:34:14.000 They wouldn't want that kind of heat.

01:34:16.000 You can't guarantee that they're going to be...

01:34:20.000 They would raid the home of that person and plant a grenade.

01:34:22.000 And then say, like, we found a weapon.

01:34:25.000 Okay, again, but these are...

01:34:26.000 Because that also literally happens.

01:34:27.000 This is all hypothetical stuff.

01:34:29.000 My point is, you know, when I look at the cultural issues we deal with, there's the argument of the slippery slope goes in every direction.

01:34:36.000 We want to make sure that we're fighting the moral battles where we draw the moral lines.

01:34:40.000 What we don't want to do is codify in law a vague and nebulous statement like negligence of duty is a criminal offense.

01:34:48.000 Because then that will be literally, like, then they'll literally start arresting anybody who ever in any way tries to do the right thing if you get a corrupted machine.

01:34:56.000 Right.

01:34:56.000 And maybe what I was asking, I would be okay with someone going to jail if they could actually draw a straight line from a tragedy to their quote-unquote negligence.

01:35:08.000 I'm not even offended at that.

01:35:09.000 Yeah.

01:35:09.000 Like, you look at what's going on with these gun manufacturers, and they're like, if someone buys your gun and then someone uses it in a tragedy, the gun manufacturer's at fault?

01:35:16.000 Like, no, you're not.

01:35:17.000 Well, I'm saying if they let a name go through that didn't go through the proper channels in the name check database, and that person ended up becoming someone who caused harm.

01:35:28.000 I think the line would be, did they intentionally try to trigger an event, not are they bad at their job?

01:35:38.000 Yeah.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, and that's part of the investigation.

01:35:40.000 Is it incompetence, or are they an accomplice?

01:35:44.000 And the issue is, if it wasn't incompetence, it's already illegal.

01:35:47.000 And then the question of...

01:35:49.000 The issue of government is that we have a lot of people who are bad or lazy, like they're bad at their jobs or they're lazy, and they're hard to fire because of unions and federal protections.

01:35:59.000 They're getting fired now, and it is a very, very good thing.

01:36:01.000 But I don't think we want to live in a world where you can get fired for being bad at your job.

01:36:06.000 I agree.

01:36:09.000 You just said you don't want to get arrested.

01:36:12.000 You can be charged, whatever it might be, because you're bad at your job.

01:36:16.000 It has to be you intentionally damaged government property, intentionally obstructed government actions for the purpose of crime, not that you didn't show up for work one day, so we're charging you.

01:36:30.000 Because, I mean, the gist of what we're talking about is the people not responding to emails.

01:36:34.000 You don't respond to an email.

01:36:35.000 You're saying, I'm not going to respond to the email.

01:36:36.000 I refuse to do it.

01:36:37.000 And that's what spawned the they should be charged question.

01:36:39.000 So that to me is an absurdity.

01:36:41.000 So don't arrest everyone who doesn't respond to the email?

01:36:43.000 Oh, I didn't say arrest everyone who doesn't respond to the email.

01:36:45.000 He said they should be charged.

01:36:47.000 No, not for not responding to the email.

01:36:50.000 You said there was a woman who got an email and she said, I'm not going to respond to it.

01:36:54.000 These people should be fired.

01:36:55.000 Yes, and what I said is, this looks like somebody who's going to be very subversive within HHS. These are people that need to be thrown out and possibly charged if they're being subversive to the orders given by the president or by the agency head.

01:37:07.000 Not for not responding to an email.

01:37:10.000 So that was two different things that got.

01:37:12.000 If you are actively damaging in terms of governance as an industry...

01:37:15.000 Yeah, we don't know what active subversion is going on within that agency by people like her, by people like that. 1.00

01:37:21.000 You don't know what they're doing or what they're not doing.

01:37:23.000 You don't know what's going on.

01:37:25.000 Not for the email.

01:37:26.000 For the email, just throw her out. 1.00

01:37:27.000 That's it. 0.99

01:37:28.000 Fire them all. 1.00

01:37:28.000 Fire her. 1.00

01:37:29.000 All right, everybody. 0.76

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01:38:27.000 The deplorable Miss Drake says, I love that Trump appointed a pardon czar.

01:38:31.000 Way too many people in this country are falsely imprisoned, still not tired of winning.

01:38:35.000 Epic.

01:38:36.000 The common neighbor says, congrats.

01:38:38.000 Did you feel the rush of super dad strength?

01:38:40.000 Indeed.

01:38:41.000 I immediately felt like I could punch a bear.

01:38:43.000 I always felt like I could punch a bear.

01:38:45.000 I just don't think I'd survive.

01:38:47.000 I'm a little different.

01:38:49.000 All right.

01:38:51.000 Quantum Strange Quark says five bullet points.

01:38:53.000 One, stole from the taxpayer.

01:38:54.000 Two, stole from the taxpayer.

01:38:55.000 Three, stole from the taxpayer.

01:38:56.000 You get where that's going.

01:38:59.000 Jason Dixon says, congrats on the baby.

01:39:01.000 You talked in the past about getting your game finished.

01:39:04.000 Let It's Based Gaming take a look at it.

01:39:06.000 Not through Ian.

01:39:08.000 Alright.

01:39:08.000 I can get them in contact with your people.

01:39:10.000 Give me a name.

01:39:11.000 Ian is the people.

01:39:12.000 Sorry, we don't have a game development mechanism here.

01:39:15.000 We'll figure it out in the Discord.

01:39:16.000 Maybe someone in the Discord who works here can help facilitate that.

01:39:21.000 Michael Barr.

01:39:22.000 Can you give a shout-out to the birth of my baby girl?

01:39:24.000 Her name is Riley.

01:39:25.000 She was born yesterday morning.

01:39:26.000 It was a long journey to get to this moment.

01:39:28.000 Indeed, good, sir!

01:39:29.000 Congrats.

01:39:30.000 Congratulations.

01:39:31.000 Congratulations.

01:39:32.000 I know exactly how you feel.

01:39:34.000 Well, not exactly, but similarly.

01:39:36.000 As my child was born only a few days ago.

01:39:39.000 Alright, let's see.

01:39:40.000 Durgal, is that what it says?

01:39:41.000 Normally, I liked Elad. 0.97

01:39:43.000 To be honest, I thought he was a good contrast until he advocated for tax on unrealized gains and made himself look ridiculous and uneducated. 0.93

01:39:51.000 Yeah, I like Elad.

01:39:53.000 We like Elad for his field reporting.

01:39:55.000 It's very straightforward.

01:39:56.000 He doesn't get overly emotional.

01:39:58.000 He asks people the basic question and lets them give you an answer, so you're getting a better assessment of how they feel about things. 0.99

01:40:04.000 But man, if that man does not understand taxes, holy crap, Elad. 0.84

01:40:09.000 He literally has no idea how taxes work, what they are, what they're supposed to be. 0.98

01:40:13.000 And I don't think he even understands what he wants.

01:40:16.000 The issue with the debate we had, and then I guess, Phil, you had another debate with him later on?

01:40:20.000 Yeah, there was the call-in show and people were...

01:40:23.000 People were calling in and they wanted to talk to Elad about it.

01:40:26.000 And essentially, I mean, I tried to make sure that I wasn't strawmanning his position and stuff, but as soon as we got to the point where I would get him to elaborate, he would get frustrated and say, well, you know, we need some method to tax these people because it's such a small percentage of people and they have so much blah, blah, blah.

01:40:43.000 It's a communist.

01:40:44.000 I'm not exaggerating.

01:40:45.000 Elad is a... 0.99

01:40:46.000 He's not a neocon.

01:40:47.000 He's a neoliberal.

01:40:49.000 He's an expansionist.

01:40:53.000 Militaristic pro-seizing of property, wealth, and equity.

01:40:57.000 And he can't articulate it properly.

01:40:59.000 And this is exactly what leftists and communists are.

01:41:02.000 So I can break down for you everything I think about tax policy and law.

01:41:07.000 It's very complicated.

01:41:08.000 But in terms of like a wealth tax, why it doesn't work, why property taxes is largely a failed system.

01:41:13.000 And his response whenever these questions come up was literally just to go, I don't know.

01:41:17.000 I don't know.

01:41:18.000 He's just got too much.

01:41:19.000 It is of the left and the communists to say, I don't understand my position.

01:41:24.000 I don't know how to solve my problem.

01:41:26.000 I'm just angry someone has lots of money.

01:41:29.000 And then, like, we tried walking through, like, Elad, he doesn't have the cash.

01:41:33.000 How would he pay taxes?

01:41:34.000 I don't know.

01:41:35.000 Okay, well, he can't then!

01:41:37.000 So, for those that are wondering, the base of the conversation, because the point I do want to make is, he said...

01:41:44.000 Some people believe that these powerful wealthy people are using loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

01:41:47.000 And I said, whoa, hold on.

01:41:48.000 There's no loopholes.

01:41:49.000 That's not a thing.

01:41:50.000 Loophole is not a thing.

01:41:51.000 That's a made-up term by leftists to create the idea that rich people are not paying their fair share of taxes.

01:41:58.000 And what does fair share mean?

01:41:59.000 Literally, I don't know.

01:42:00.000 But the Democrats and the left, they want you to believe that being wealthy is inherently wrong.

01:42:06.000 So they say they're not paying their taxes by using a loophole.

01:42:10.000 You then say, what's the loophole?

01:42:12.000 And as Elad tries to explain, he owns equity in a company worth lots of money.

01:42:17.000 And you're like, okay, well, that's just ownership in a company.

01:42:19.000 That's not cash.

01:42:20.000 And he says, I don't know.

01:42:21.000 I don't care.

01:42:22.000 We've got to do something.

01:42:24.000 So when it comes to the actual argument, it breaks down completely.

01:42:28.000 And that's without even getting into the results from that kind of policy.

01:42:34.000 The very first thing that would happen is, if you were to do that, someone like Bezos is, well, they move.

01:42:40.000 So now you can't tax them anymore.

01:42:42.000 All the money goes offshore.

01:42:44.000 Unfortunately, there's no money to tax.

01:42:46.000 Well, all the property.

01:42:48.000 He would move, so that way he's not subject to the laws, so he doesn't have to sell his property.

01:42:52.000 Well, this U.S. passport, you know you're taxed worldwide no matter where you go.

01:42:56.000 You'd get rid of it.

01:42:57.000 It's worth it.

01:42:57.000 Exactly.

01:42:58.000 You would leave.

01:42:58.000 It's called St. Kitts and Nevis.

01:42:59.000 Exactly.

01:43:00.000 That's exactly what you do.

01:43:01.000 They go to St. Kitts and Nevis and they buy passports because St. Kitts passports are used.

01:43:06.000 They're very great passports.

01:43:07.000 Yes.

01:43:08.000 And then they say, I'm no longer an American citizen.

01:43:10.000 You renounce the U.S., yeah.

01:43:11.000 Yeah, I think it's 50 grand.

01:43:12.000 Wow.

01:43:13.000 To renounce?

01:43:14.000 No, to get the passport.

01:43:15.000 To buy citizenship.

01:43:15.000 Absolutely.

01:43:15.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:43:17.000 There's a few.

01:43:17.000 There's Paraguay, there's Panama, a lot of different places.

01:43:19.000 Almost all countries.

01:43:20.000 Yeah.

01:43:20.000 Almost all countries have what's called economic citizenship.

01:43:23.000 Yes.

01:43:23.000 Or investment citizenship, where if you deposit a certain...

01:43:26.000 It's really crazy.

01:43:27.000 You deposit a million dollars in a bank account in a country, they'll give you citizenship. 0.65

01:43:31.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 And it's usually much less than that, honestly, in a lot of these countries.

01:43:34.000 Yeah, some countries.

01:43:34.000 Well, the smaller ones, it's like 50 grand.

01:43:36.000 Paraguay is like the big thing now, and it's territorial tax.

01:43:39.000 So a lot of people will just go.

01:43:41.000 So if you earn money from outside of Paraguay, you don't have to pay tax.

01:43:45.000 You only earn on what you pay, what you get within the country.

01:43:48.000 So I know tons of people.

01:43:49.000 They're moving to Paraguay.

01:43:50.000 Not so much Americans, because then you've got to renounce American people who don't want to do that for family. 0.81

01:43:55.000 Canadians, they're all running to Paraguay.

01:43:56.000 So let me just elaborate this for all the people out there going, no, there's loopholes.

01:44:01.000 So Elad's argument was Bezos is worth $100 billion but only pays taxes on a million because worth dollars and income are two totally different things.

01:44:12.000 The reason I say there's no loopholes is because Congress and your politicians at the state level pass a law saying you are required to pay X. Wealthy people go, OK, I'll pay X. And then leftists go, he's using a loophole.

01:44:28.000 What do you mean a loophole?

01:44:30.000 I'm following the law as it was written down.

01:44:31.000 And then they say, yeah, but you have imaginary money that you can't spend, so give it to me.

01:44:37.000 That's Elad's position.

01:44:38.000 And it's like, okay.

01:44:40.000 Bezos isn't doing—the crazy thing is, I don't even understand why Elad is mad that Bezos is rich.

01:44:46.000 Okay, why do you care that Bezos is worth $180 billion?

01:44:50.000 No, like, honest question.

01:44:51.000 What does that written-down word in the newspaper mean at all to your life, and why are you mad at Bezos?

01:44:57.000 Has he taken that $180 billion, liquidated it, not paid his taxes, and then, I don't know, funded a whole bunch of left-wing programs?

01:45:05.000 No.

01:45:05.000 Because as soon as he liquidates the stock, he's got to pay taxes on it.

01:45:08.000 Okay, so what's the loophole?

01:45:10.000 He's not made money.

01:45:11.000 What is he paying taxes on?

01:45:13.000 Absurdities.

01:45:14.000 He has a problem with someone that has a net worth of that much, but that just means that he has a problem with people having property.

01:45:19.000 Right.

01:45:20.000 It's communism.

01:45:20.000 Yeah.

01:45:22.000 I try to explain this to him.

01:45:23.000 If you're saying that Jeff Bezos has too much wealth because of the value of Amazon, because his wealth is tied to his equity in Amazon, and that he should be forced to pay against that, meaning he would have to sell some of his equity in the company, you're advocating for the seizing of the means of production from Jeff Bezos.

01:45:42.000 He's like, no, I'm not.

01:45:42.000 I'm like...

01:45:43.000 He's been in New York City too long.

01:45:45.000 I was like, you should have a culture war with a lot and tax person.

01:45:48.000 This is how property tax works.

01:45:51.000 Historically, a family in the United States would stake a claim on some land when it was sparsely populated, draw their boundaries, like put up a fence or something, and then as urban areas and suburban areas started to grow more densely populated, people started to say, hey, this is my property, that's your property.

01:46:07.000 And so they started putting in markers.

01:46:08.000 We started then setting up in the government, hey, we're going to draw the lots up.

01:46:13.000 You claimed this, he claimed this.

01:46:16.000 It used to be, it's really crazy, you could claim a few acres for a farm.

01:46:20.000 And then there'd be someone, a neighbor, and there's gaps in between your properties that neither of you use that was claimed by no one.

01:46:26.000 Now, with populations so dense, ownership of land is getting more difficult.

01:46:30.000 What ends up happening is, when they introduce property taxes, this is how the government seizes the lands from the American people.

01:46:35.000 We should abolish property taxes, 100%.

01:46:37.000 Everybody give me a one in the chat if you think we should abolish property taxes.

01:46:40.000 I'll tell you why.

01:46:41.000 These historic families take a claim, let's say it's 100 acres, and they set up a farm, and it's the year 1620. Their kids live there.

01:46:49.000 They give them the farm.

01:46:50.000 Their kids grow up.

01:46:51.000 They give them the farm.

01:46:52.000 The year is now 1943 or whatever.

01:46:55.000 And the county comes in and says, we're going to charge property tax on this hundred acres, which is worth X. You have to give us cash based on the size of your lot.

01:47:04.000 The family goes, but we're just poor farmers.

01:47:07.000 We don't make no money.

01:47:08.000 We just grow food and eat it.

01:47:10.000 And they say, sell an acre and use that money to pay your taxes.

01:47:13.000 And they go, all right, I guess.

01:47:15.000 So they sell one of their hundred.

01:47:17.000 Someone buys it, builds a house, and they use that money to pay their taxes for the year.

01:47:20.000 Every year they sell one acre to cover the cost of the property taxes, reducing the property.

01:47:25.000 And you can actually look at property maps and see how this has been done across the country, how the government has effectively been destroying ownership rights of land through property taxes.

01:47:35.000 Take a look at any semi-rural area that's going suburban.

01:47:38.000 You can go to the city.

01:47:39.000 Every state has a property lookup, and you can look up the properties and see.

01:47:44.000 And what you'll find is there's interesting plots of land with lines that seemingly, like, you'll see a road here, and you'll see two roads, or four roads.

01:47:52.000 One down here, two here, and one in the middle.

01:47:54.000 A big plot of land right in the middle, and then a line cutting through it, and single acre lots all alongside it.

01:48:00.000 And if you go back far enough, you'll be like, ah.

01:48:02.000 That used to be a single plot.

01:48:04.000 The roads were around it because it was a single person's plot and they were forced to sell off their property piece by piece because the government was taxing them on something that didn't make money for them.

01:48:13.000 It's happening all over West Virginia right now.

01:48:15.000 This whole area, the country, the farmland is completely gone.

01:48:19.000 And these houses are like growing out of the ground overnight.

01:48:21.000 It's crazy.

01:48:22.000 They don't have enough hospitals for these people.

01:48:24.000 Out here.

01:48:26.000 By us, there's massive developments going on.

01:48:28.000 So we're in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia.

01:48:30.000 And you can actually see how these developers came in.

01:48:34.000 And this one I'm fine with.

01:48:36.000 Developers went in and went to property owners who owned like 200 acres.

01:48:40.000 It was in their family for generations.

01:48:41.000 And they said, we'll buy it off you.

01:48:43.000 That's totally fine.

01:48:44.000 I'm going to buy your land.

01:48:45.000 You're going to be rich and you can leave.

01:48:46.000 And they say, okay, I'll do that.

01:48:47.000 The problem is the property tax system creates pressure on these people to where the developer walks in and says, look.

01:48:53.000 I'm going to give a million dollars for your rural acreage.

01:48:55.000 It's worth nothing.

01:48:56.000 You don't got the money to pay your property taxes.

01:48:59.000 So if you sit on this and don't take this deal, you're going to have to start parceling off your property every year to pay the taxes or you can sell it to me right now and be a millionaire.

01:49:06.000 And so they say, well, our seventh generation farm is now sold to the developer and what does it turn into?

01:49:11.000 A bunch of McMansions.

01:49:12.000 Yeah.

01:49:12.000 Also, the amount of eminent domain cases that happen where they're building a highway and just take a piece of your farm.

01:49:18.000 Yeah.

01:49:19.000 We're just cutting through this.

01:49:20.000 Do you know about that little triangle in New York?

01:49:22.000 Where they eminent-domained.

01:49:25.000 They built a highway, and then it sliced through a guy's whole building, and they seized it from him, except for a little tiny, like, four-inch triangle, which is now on the ground with a placard saying, owned by this guy and never a portion for public use.

01:49:39.000 Wow.

01:49:39.000 I lived at the bottom of a mountain where a town called Doodletown used to be, created, founded after, like, before the Revolution.

01:49:45.000 And up until the 1960s, these people lived up there, and the government came through and said, we're going to build a ski slope here.

01:49:51.000 Kicked everyone out.

01:49:52.000 And they never built a ski slope.

01:49:54.000 Wow.

01:49:54.000 And all the people from Doodletown came down to our town.

01:49:56.000 And it's a ghost town.

01:49:58.000 Doodletown?

01:49:59.000 Doodletown.

01:49:59.000 Yeah.

01:50:00.000 Like the doodle dandy.

01:50:01.000 Yeah.

01:50:02.000 Crazy.

01:50:03.000 Yep.

01:50:04.000 All right.

01:50:05.000 Kenneth Hart says, Tim, thanks for being here.

01:50:07.000 Now go home and play video games while your kid naps on your chest.

01:50:10.000 It's awesome.

01:50:11.000 Trust me, I know.

01:50:12.000 You know what's the most interesting thing?

01:50:14.000 Is that I figured, I learned that they actually technically are talking the moment they're born.

01:50:19.000 Really?

01:50:20.000 It's not that they're saying words.

01:50:21.000 It's that there's guttural grunts and noises which are easily communicable.

01:50:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:26.000 They communicate.

01:50:27.000 They do.

01:50:28.000 Absolutely.

01:50:29.000 Like, obviously crying is communication, but there's like...

01:50:32.000 I'm hungry.

01:50:34.000 Yeah, there's sounds where you're like, I know what that means.

01:50:37.000 And then facial expressions, all reflexive and innate.

01:50:42.000 Yeah, it's like, wow.

01:50:43.000 It's like the communication starts instantly.

01:50:46.000 You know, humans are born very early relative to other animals, but, you know, beings of this earth, like we've got stuff in us, instinct, reflex, etc.

01:50:58.000 One thing that's really cool is blind people who are blind since birth, when they win, raise their fists in the air, indicating it is an instinct and reflex of accomplishment because they did not learn to do that behavior by watching someone else do it. 0.78

01:51:14.000 There's a bunch of things like that.

01:51:16.000 Humans just do.

01:51:17.000 That's wild.

01:51:18.000 Yeah, it's crazy, right?

01:51:23.000 Alright, let's see.

01:51:27.000 What do we have?

01:51:29.000 What do we got?

01:51:30.000 Shannon Swalder says, Welcome back, Tim.

01:51:32.000 Congratulations on the birth of your baby.

01:51:33.000 I hope mother and child are doing well.

01:51:35.000 Let's go.

01:51:35.000 This is forwarding the line.

01:51:37.000 Indeed.

01:51:39.000 I slept decently well.

01:51:42.000 Baby woke up every few hours crying.

01:51:44.000 Allison is very strong and doing a great job and admittedly taking a lot of the responsibilities to make sure Baby is okay because she knows that I'm doing two shows every day and we've got a big staff and a company.

01:51:54.000 And I am indebted and very lucky to be with Allison.

01:51:59.000 She's fantastic.

01:52:00.000 I'm also really lucky that we're like very similar people and we grew up in a similar way and we like a lot of the same things and like, man.

01:52:08.000 Very lucky to have all that.

01:52:11.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:52:13.000 Horsehead says, Tim, any chance of having Dan on the show again before he starts the new position?

01:52:18.000 Sounds like Bongino's show will continue for now.

01:52:22.000 Right.

01:52:23.000 Yeah.

01:52:23.000 So I guess he's going to keep doing the show until he does leave for that job, which is going to be somewhat soon.

01:52:28.000 And then, I don't know if he's going to have a host take the show over.

01:52:31.000 He should have someone host a show in his absence.

01:52:34.000 He never had any co-hosts, did he?

01:52:35.000 He's got a couple people in, like, the network, I think.

01:52:38.000 Okay, yeah.

01:52:38.000 Who can fill in for him, which is normal.

01:52:41.000 It's not the same, man.

01:52:42.000 He knows it.

01:52:43.000 And I hope people realize, would you be willing to?

01:52:47.000 I mean, maybe we're a different breed.

01:52:49.000 But if someone said, I'll give you $20 million a year for the rest of your life, plus equity in the company, he's a big shareholder in Rumble, you will want for nothing, you will have private jets, or you can give it all up to go and work a civil service job for $200,000 a year.

01:53:04.000 How many people are going to be like, I'll take it?

01:53:06.000 I mean, so, I get what you're saying, but...

01:53:10.000 For me, I don't have any kind of qualification that would put me in a position.

01:53:15.000 Dan Bongino does have a very, very narrow qualification.

01:53:21.000 Like we were saying earlier, I legit believe he does love the country.

01:53:26.000 He does believe that the law enforcement agency, the FBI, has been on the wrong track and been doing things that are contrary to what the FBI should be doing.

01:53:37.000 I mean, if I were in his position, because he's not losing his equity stake in...

01:53:43.000 He's not losing any property, right?

01:53:47.000 He's losing between $10 and $30 million of cash every year.

01:53:52.000 Yeah.

01:53:53.000 I mean, I understand that.

01:53:54.000 Bro, that's...

01:53:55.000 200-foot yacht money.

01:53:57.000 But he's already got tons of money.

01:54:00.000 Yeah.

01:54:00.000 And he's got tons of...

01:54:02.000 Hold on there, Yelod.

01:54:05.000 His equity in Rumble is not cash.

01:54:07.000 He can't spend.

01:54:08.000 Fair enough, fair enough.

01:54:09.000 And if he liquidates, it would...

01:54:11.000 If Dan Bungino announced, I don't need the money because I can liquidate my Rumble stock, then the stock would become worthless.

01:54:17.000 Yes.

01:54:18.000 I do understand he's a very wealthy individual, but...

01:54:22.000 That doesn't change the fact that he's...

01:54:24.000 Like, cash and hard wealth are totally different.

01:54:27.000 I mean, I conceive of this in the same way that Donald Trump did it, right?

01:54:30.000 Donald Trump was worth billions of dollars, and then he went to be the president, and he doesn't even take a salary, or he didn't.

01:54:37.000 Maybe he does now, but he didn't for the first four years.

01:54:39.000 And I kind of equate it to that.

01:54:40.000 Now, and then trying to relate that to myself, I don't have that kind of, you know, specialized knowledge, specialized, you know...

01:54:48.000 That kind of job...

01:54:50.000 I just don't have that.

01:54:54.000 It's a great sacrifice.

01:54:54.000 People are chatting, he's set already, and I'm like, nah, uh-uh.

01:54:58.000 How old is he?

01:54:59.000 Is he late 40s?

01:55:02.000 Yeah, he still has a lot of time left.

01:55:03.000 I personally want nothing to do with the government, but I watched his live stream earlier, and he clearly wants to be...

01:55:10.000 That was an emotional thing for him.

01:55:12.000 He wants to be a part of it.

01:55:15.000 For him, it's his passion.

01:55:16.000 It's the stuff he's been talking about.

01:55:18.000 Now he gets to go and not just talk about it, he gets to go tackle it, like take it down directly.

01:55:22.000 That's four years.

01:55:23.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:55:23.000 And in four years, he'll be back and he can do what he's doing now.

01:55:27.000 Maybe it's not four years.

01:55:28.000 Well, yeah, that's true.

01:55:30.000 If Vance or somebody else, anybody.

01:55:32.000 If the Republicans win again, he could stay.

01:55:34.000 And they want cash to remain in and Dan to stay in, he could stay.

01:55:37.000 Actually, FBI used to be a 10-year term.

01:55:40.000 But it's deputy director.

01:55:41.000 Exactly.

01:55:41.000 No, exactly.

01:55:42.000 It's appointed by the director.

01:55:42.000 No, you're right, you're right.

01:55:43.000 They might be like, you're the greatest we've ever had.

01:55:45.000 Stay, please, we need you.

01:55:46.000 True, true.

01:55:48.000 He's a patriot.

01:55:48.000 That's it.

01:55:49.000 It's the end of this story.

01:55:50.000 He's a patriot.

01:55:50.000 I do agree with the idea of like, he is wealthy, he'll be wealthy forever.

01:55:54.000 No, no, I totally understand that.

01:55:55.000 But there's more than money.

01:55:58.000 Dan has tremendous social capital and influence as one of the biggest, he has consistently the biggest live show in the world every day.

01:56:07.000 Just, like, you look at his concurrent view.

01:56:09.000 To give up, it's not even just about the cash, it's the influence and the celebrity.

01:56:14.000 He fights so hard to build up this channel to be influential, and the concerning thing is, stepping away from this position could have potentially opened the door for the left to move in, gain more influence, and then oust or harm the populist movement.

01:56:30.000 So there's a tremendous risk and sacrifice in...

01:56:33.000 Going to do this job right now.

01:56:36.000 Can he not do like a weekly update on his show?

01:56:38.000 Well, I bet he could.

01:56:39.000 This is what I've been seeing this week to the degree he can.

01:56:42.000 To the degree he can, he might be able to come in and give consistent updates.

01:56:45.000 Pretty cool.

01:56:45.000 But I know people who work in government since the Trump administration got in, and the general attitude is like, there's policies and procedures for what we can and can't talk about.

01:56:54.000 We don't want to talk about things that could compromise the work we're doing.

01:56:57.000 So we typically don't.

01:56:58.000 And it's like...

01:56:59.000 I don't know, mad respect to Dan Bongino.

01:57:02.000 You can tell that this is his true passion.

01:57:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:04.000 And what I love about this the most is that every single thing he said on his show has just been backed up.

01:57:09.000 He was tested and he passed.

01:57:10.000 Yeah.

01:57:11.000 When it came time and said, hey, you've been talking big game, he says, I'll take the job.

01:57:14.000 Yeah.

01:57:14.000 It's like, you're going to give up $20 million, $30 million?

01:57:17.000 He's like, yeah, because this is what I've been talking about the whole time.

01:57:20.000 Now's my chance to actually do something.

01:57:22.000 I'm excited, man.

01:57:23.000 I can't believe Dan Bongino.

01:57:25.000 It's so amazing.

01:57:27.000 I do not think he would disappoint.

01:57:29.000 I really do not think he would disappoint.

01:57:31.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:57:32.000 These are Cash, Bongino.

01:57:34.000 These are real, real patriots.

01:57:37.000 They've been talking about this forever.

01:57:39.000 So they can't disappoint.

01:57:41.000 I mean, they'll lose all their credibility, so they won't do it.

01:57:44.000 Well, they won't do it.

01:57:46.000 I agree.

01:57:46.000 I don't think it's about their credibility.

01:57:48.000 Yeah.

01:57:48.000 I don't think they're worried about reputation.

01:57:49.000 I think they're both going like, let's roll.

01:57:51.000 Yeah.

01:57:52.000 They're more excited than we are.

01:57:53.000 Trust me.

01:57:54.000 They're more excited to get in and do this than we're excited to see it.

01:57:57.000 I just want you to just imagine Cash and Dan jumping in there and high-fiving each other and then freeze frame.

01:58:01.000 Yeah.

01:58:02.000 Let's take them down. 0.97

01:58:04.000 Y'all, I'm so excited.

01:58:05.000 All right.

01:58:06.000 Well, what do we got?

01:58:08.000 Katana Flair says, Tim, congrats on the baby, but missed the chance to name your baby, Samantha Deadpool.

01:58:12.000 But if you have a son later, Ryan Reynolds pool, LOL. Well, why would I do that?

01:58:17.000 I don't know if that name is so popular right now.

01:58:21.000 Tanner Tate says, I quit trusting Dan Crenshaw years ago when I went to the World Economic Forum website and saw him pictured as one of their notable members of the Young Global Leaders Initiative.

01:58:29.000 So was Tulsi Gabbard.

01:58:30.000 And the story there was that it was an editorial written by the World Economic Forum without the participation of the individuals.

01:58:37.000 They were simply saying, these people are rising in politics.

01:58:40.000 I would imagine it more as a notice to their members of who they were looking to buy.

01:58:45.000 Not anyone who was actively bought.

01:58:47.000 So Tulsi was like, hey, get me out of that. 0.69

01:58:49.000 I don't want to be involved in that.

01:58:51.000 Yes.

01:58:52.000 Alright, what have we here?

01:58:53.000 We'll grab a couple more.

01:58:56.000 LoveyW says, wow, response, Tim just did.

01:59:00.000 What is that about?

01:59:03.000 Jason Dixon says, I own so much land, if they drop the tax, I'll make millions.

01:59:08.000 If you, owning the land, like, owning land that can be used, so like, if you own a farm in a rural area and they're taxing you, And you're like, do I have $300,000 to build a house?

01:59:17.000 No.

01:59:17.000 Okay, well then you can't rent it.

01:59:18.000 Do you want to try and rent an empty lot?

01:59:21.000 You could parcel out and try and rent it.

01:59:23.000 Who's going to buy it?

01:59:24.000 For what?

01:59:25.000 It's not so easy.

01:59:26.000 And then the taxes are high.

01:59:27.000 And what happens is, as developers are coming in, the prices are going up.

01:59:30.000 Now your taxes are going up before you have an opportunity to utilize your property for anything meaningful if you don't have the investment.

01:59:35.000 So this basically just takes the land from poor people and breaks it up and destroys generational wealth.

01:59:41.000 Alright, EC3 says, Shane...

01:59:43.000 You, me, and Billy on The Culture War, and we'll get to the bottom of this lizard story. 0.55

01:59:47.000 No redaction.

01:59:48.000 Shout out, EC3, pro wrestler.

01:59:50.000 Amazing dude.

01:59:51.000 No redaction.

01:59:52.000 Let's do that, please.

01:59:55.000 I'm a big fan of Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Corgan.

01:59:57.000 He's fantastic.

01:59:58.000 One of the best.

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02:00:57.000 So I'll just say, if you're curious about the having of the baby and all that stuff, we talked about it a bit on The Green Room.

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02:01:12.000 And, like, I think ten minutes in I showed up.

02:01:13.000 You were in about even less, I think, five minutes.

02:01:16.000 You were in pretty quick.

02:01:18.000 I was hanging out with the baby.

02:01:20.000 We were feeding the baby, and so I waited a long time.

02:01:22.000 And then you guys were talking.

02:01:24.000 Yes.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 25, 2025

Dan Bongino ACCEPTS Deputy FBI Director, SECRET NSA CHATS EXPOSED w-Joey Mannarino | Timcast IRL

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