Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Dan Bongino AND Kash Patel THREATEN TO QUIT FBI Over Botched Epstein Release | Timcast IRL

00:02:42.000 Dan Bongino and Cash Patel are both reportedly threatening to quit the FBI over the botched Epstein release, cover-up, whatever you want to call it.

00:02:54.000 Apparently, Dan Bongino refused to come into work today and then threatened to leave unless Pam Bandi was removed.

00:03:00.000 Cash says, if Dan's out, then I'm out.

00:03:03.000 And now you've got this whole big hubbub, and there's a lot of rumors, theories, conspiracies, which we can break into as to what is actually going on.

00:03:11.000 Some still think that this is all part of the plan.

00:03:14.000 It's a grand conspiracy to deceive you, throw Pam Bondi into the bus.

00:03:17.000 Others are saying Trump is using the Epstein blackmail to get his agenda through.

00:03:22.000 We will talk about this and much, much more.

00:03:24.000 We do have a bunch of other stories.

00:03:26.000 Apparently, according to Wired, the videos that they released of the prison were edited despite them claiming it was a raw release.

00:03:34.000 Now, one of them was modified, one of them was supposedly not.

00:03:37.000 And Wired says, we went in, we checked the data, and this was modified in some way.

00:03:43.000 So we'll talk about that.

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00:03:49.000 You got in the Pacific Northwest, they released and suspected and arrested and charged terrorists to firebomb Tesla facilities.

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00:06:14.000 Let's get after it.

00:06:15.000 Here we go.

00:06:16.000 Here's the big story.

00:06:17.000 Daily Wire's got the reporting.

00:06:19.000 Now, this is Bondi or Bongino.

00:06:21.000 Bongino won't remain at FBI if Bondi keeps job sources safe.

00:06:26.000 First thing I'm going to do is shout out to Laura Loomer, who broke this story first thing this morning with reporting that Dan Bongino didn't show up and was threatening to quit.

00:06:34.000 Daily Wires, Mary Margaret, and Zach Jewell then were able to corroborate more of this report with additional sources.

00:06:41.000 So this looks legit.

00:06:42.000 Suffice it to say, Laura has had tremendous scoops in the administration. 1.00

00:06:47.000 So as soon as I saw this, I was like, this one's going to be big.

00:06:49.000 Dan Bongino, the deputy director of the FBI, is threatening to leave the Bureau if Attorney General Pam Bondi remains on the job, a source close to Bongino tells the Daily Wire.

00:06:58.000 Bongino is reportedly furious with AG Pam Bondi over her handling of the Epstein files, which has led many to believe he could walk away from the job that he took in February.

00:07:07.000 The source close to Bongino said he's effectively issued an ultimatum saying he won't work alongside Bondi.

00:07:12.000 Bongino left a lucrative career in broadcasting to take the job in the Trump administration.

00:07:17.000 He was not present at the FBI on Friday after reported spat with the AG earlier this week over the Epstein situation.

00:07:23.000 So apparently now we have this from Mary Margaret who said, source close to DOJ says Cash Patel also wants Pam Bondi gone and that he'd consider leaving if Bongino leaves.

00:07:35.000 Also, that there are more frustrations with other documents Bondi hasn't released.

00:07:40.000 Confirming this from Sheldy Talcott, quote, Bongino in particular, one source said is frustrated that DOJ at the start of the week declared that Epstein case effectively closed and determined that the accused sex trafficker died by suicide while awaiting trial with few further details shared.

00:07:54.000 He wants more documents unsealed, the source added.

00:07:57.000 So there are many conspiracy theories right now.

00:08:01.000 One that I heard, is that interesting.

00:08:05.000 Before the Big Beautiful bill is passed, we're hearing all about the Epstein files.

00:08:10.000 After the Big Beautiful bill is passed, nothing to see here, folks.

00:08:13.000 There's no client list and case closed.

00:08:15.000 Prince Andrew, you're free to go.

00:08:17.000 And so the theory is Trump went to deep state congressional individual staffers and perhaps the speaker and said, if you don't pass my agenda, we drop the Epstein files.

00:08:30.000 So then they went and said, okay, fine.

00:08:33.000 And now Trump is effectively using that blackmail to get his agenda rammed through.

00:08:36.000 I have no reason to believe that's the case.

00:08:38.000 I just thought it was a very interesting idea.

00:08:40.000 Another conspiracy is that Dan Bongino and Cash, this is all part of their plan.

00:08:45.000 And Pam Bondi is the Patsy.

00:08:47.000 Why?

00:08:47.000 Well, Mary Margaret additionally reports, source close to DOJ leadership tells me, quote, Deputy AG Blanche, Cash Patel, and Dan Bongino started drafting the released memo in early July and worked on it through the July 4th weekend.

00:09:01.000 After providing some edits, Cash and Dan signed off on the strategy and contents.

00:09:06.000 Director Patel wrote that the memo was good with FBI.

00:09:09.000 So some people are now speculating.

00:09:12.000 If that's true, they did themselves draft this whole strategy of an unnamed, unsigned memo and all of that stuff, but are now acting like it's an affront to them.

00:09:22.000 The conspiracy theory is that they are going to put the blame on Pam Bondi for the botched release, force her to be fired, and then the more extreme version is the Epstein files have been damaged, destroyed, or lost because of Bondi, wrap it up in a nice little ball, throw it in the trash, and then say, sorry, guys, we can't do anything about it.

00:09:42.000 It was Bondi's fault.

00:09:45.000 What would be their motivation for that?

00:09:48.000 Well, if Trump, whatever is going on, when they come out and say, Epstein killed himself, and they say there's nothing to see here, nobody believes it.

00:09:55.000 If your intention is to not release this stuff, how do you do it?

00:10:00.000 Especially when Trump said in his campaign, he's going to do it.

00:10:03.000 Everyone is demanding it.

00:10:05.000 The story will not go away.

00:10:07.000 It was the top trending story all week, no matter what they tried.

00:10:09.000 They came out and announced they were investigating Brennan and Comey, and that went beep and then gone and Epstein came back.

00:10:15.000 So PR strategy-wise, what would you do?

00:10:18.000 Guys, we're going to need a Patsy to blame. 1.00

00:10:21.000 So who can we throw out the window?

00:10:24.000 And then if you want to get real extreme with it, they could come out and say, guys, we had the files.

00:10:29.000 Bondi destroyed them.

00:10:31.000 We don't know why.

00:10:32.000 And now no one can ever blame you again.

00:10:35.000 You have centered all of the hate of Epstein to a single person, thrown them out of the administration.

00:10:40.000 And anyone ever comes to you and you can be like, yeah, that's so terrible.

00:10:43.000 Blame that person who did it.

00:10:45.000 Quite literally scapegoating.

00:10:46.000 Okay, so.

00:10:47.000 I'm not saying there's any evidence that's true, though.

00:10:48.000 No, but the reason for speculation, I'm going to say, is how much of this is sort of post hoc rationalization by those of us who still have faith in the Trump administration after Pam Bondi specifically has screwed this up so badly at pretty much every stage of it.

00:11:06.000 Because you can't come out and say, right, I have this massive pile of Epstein files on my desk waiting for me to sign off and then go around on camera saying, right, oh, I've got video evidence that he was abusing children, and then invite a bunch of influencers to the White House for photo ops for evidence on a child abuse case, like a global sex trafficking ring, that they then smile and take photos with.

00:11:26.000 And then that turns out to be a nothing burger.

00:11:28.000 And then turn around and said, well, yeah, there's absolutely nothing to the story when literally everybody knows that the guy did not kill himself.

00:11:34.000 Like, if you were going to pick one story to try and sweep under the rug, it's probably the absolute worst one because nobody believes the official line on it.

00:11:42.000 So how many of these post hoc rationalizations are to say, well, this is all one big, great 4D chess move because Bondi has just screwed the pooch and all of this?

00:11:52.000 Yeah, it seems like she's rapidly emerged as the full gal in this case. 0.58

00:11:55.000 I mean, the base is absolutely furious.

00:11:57.000 Like you said, you can't sweep this one under the rug.

00:11:59.000 This is the big ticket.

00:12:00.000 I mean, if you've got this big story, Epstein and all of his clients, and they're demanding all the files you have and you don't want to release them, how easy would it be to just accuse her of having hoarded, destroyed, or done something to them?

00:12:14.000 And then no one can ever ask you again and it's not your fault.

00:12:17.000 That's a PR play.

00:12:18.000 He was known as like Mr. Integrity.

00:12:21.000 Yes, I agree.

00:12:22.000 And I just, I think he made it very clear in the time before that if he had any opportunity, he would make this happen and that he would not, you know, I feel silly seeing that he wouldn't lie to us because I know on some level they can't tell us everything.

00:12:39.000 But I just have a hard time believing that they would really be feeding us that big of a sandwich, so to speak.

00:12:47.000 Here's what I actually think.

00:12:48.000 I think Dan is probably kept at somewhat of an arm's length on this.

00:12:53.000 There's a video.

00:12:53.000 I think we actually have the video.

00:12:55.000 This is an old video where Dan says, let me play this video for you guys.

00:12:58.000 We'll get it.

00:12:59.000 We got it right here.

00:13:00.000 There's video that when you look at the video, and we will release, that's what's taken a while on this.

00:13:06.000 We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced.

00:13:09.000 And we're going to give the original so you don't think there are any shenanigans.

00:13:13.000 I think, what likely happened is Dan is told that by Pam and he says, Okay, good.

00:13:20.000 So we're going to release this.

00:13:21.000 Yes, this is the plan.

00:13:22.000 We'll do it.

00:13:22.000 He doesn't see the footage.

00:13:24.000 And then he goes on TV and says this.

00:13:25.000 Then when they release the footage, it's miserably offensive. 1.00

00:13:28.000 It's like offensively stupid. 1.00

00:13:30.000 There's a minute missing. 1.00

00:13:31.000 There's people coming and going.

00:13:33.000 And he's probably going, oh my God.

00:13:35.000 So now he's pissed and he walks out and says, fire that lady because he trusts them in the release of this stuff.

00:13:44.000 And then they screw everything up.

00:13:45.000 How does he say that to?

00:13:47.000 Fire them? 0.99

00:13:47.000 Fire that lady. 0.99

00:13:48.000 Trump. 0.95

00:13:49.000 Right.

00:13:50.000 So there's no way this all isn't happening without his involvement, right?

00:13:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:53.000 So on some level, and you can imagine Bongino and Cash Pell going to Trump and saying, we have a problem.

00:13:58.000 Yeah.

00:13:59.000 And him siding with them.

00:14:00.000 And look, a lot of people end up in Trump's lives unhappy with Trump.

00:14:04.000 And it's situations like this, where he dismisses people.

00:14:08.000 He uses them.

00:14:08.000 He sets them up and they're cast out if they're not useful to him.

00:14:12.000 So this is all smelling of that kind of thing again.

00:14:15.000 My bet is these guys will not leave.

00:14:17.000 They're not going anywhere.

00:14:19.000 But Pam Bondi seems to be really in danger.

00:14:21.000 And remember, she wasn't the first pick, right?

00:14:24.000 At Gates.

00:14:25.000 Well, them going to Trump would also explain why Trump was so annoyed when the reporter raised it at the press conference because he's probably been having conversations about this behind the scenes.

00:14:33.000 There's no way he's not involved in it.

00:14:35.000 He is, although he has, you know, Adam Kroll was pointing out to the other day.

00:14:39.000 He goes, you know, Trump is a builder and he's used to hiring subs, subcontractors, and they've all got to be great and they've got to be coming on time and under budget.

00:14:48.000 And if they are not, they are out.

00:14:50.000 And so he's used to doing this.

00:14:52.000 Something was definitely off at that meeting where Trump was like, are we still talking about that?

00:14:59.000 I mean, he knows that everybody's talking about that.

00:15:02.000 I was actually, I think Trump is so masterful usually with like social situations.

00:15:09.000 I was actually surprised that he tried something that fell so flat.

00:15:13.000 I really, I rarely see him try something that falls flat.

00:15:17.000 And that was thin and it fell flat.

00:15:20.000 There was something off in that meeting.

00:15:21.000 Well, he's been getting increasingly flustered in press situations like the F-bomb right after the Iran-Israel situation.

00:15:29.000 And so it's like, I mean, I'm a big Trump guy, obviously, but it's like a little concerning that he's having these moments where he's completely seems like out of control and or that situation's out of control.

00:15:38.000 I don't know if your foreign policy was the entire time playing daycare for like ethno-religious grudges that last thousands of years in the Middle East, I would probably drop a couple of F-bombs at the same time. 0.94

00:15:47.000 Yeah, I see Christian.

00:15:48.000 I disagree with both you guys.

00:15:49.000 I think these were all carefully managed and carefully placed.

00:15:53.000 The F-bomb and what he said at the cabinet meeting, he achieved his ends.

00:15:58.000 I mean, it's either that or he's firing warning shots.

00:16:00.000 But what was his end then?

00:16:02.000 Just not get the press off it. 0.99

00:16:03.000 Just shut up for a minute. 0.98

00:16:05.000 Okay. 1.00

00:16:05.000 Just shut up. 1.00

00:16:06.000 It doesn't have to go away forever. 1.00

00:16:07.000 Just you people shut up so we can figure this out.

00:16:09.000 I mean, the way Trump does operate is he does like the fire off warning shots.

00:16:12.000 So it's like that could have been directed at one singular person watching that interview.

00:16:16.000 I mean, that's been happening for years with the way Trump operates.

00:16:20.000 I like the way you put that, though, Tomlinson, playing daycare from Britain.

00:16:26.000 It's the same with British politics in the moment.

00:16:28.000 It's like you just got to play daycare with grown men's egos to stop each other devouring each other.

00:16:33.000 So I can imagine Trump who just wants to build things getting very frustrated.

00:16:36.000 Let's jump to this portion of the story from Wired.

00:16:39.000 Metadata shows the FBI's raw Jeffrey Epstein prison video was likely modified.

00:16:44.000 There's no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein's death.

00:16:51.000 Now, what they basically say is they don't say there's evidence that they made fake footage, but at the bare minimum, they say it was modified, likely using Adobe Premiere Pro.

00:17:04.000 Wow.

00:17:05.000 It appears to have been assembled from at least two different source clips, saved multiple times, exported, and then uploaded to DOJ's website, where it was presented as raw footage.

00:17:15.000 It was not.

00:17:16.000 So when that minute is missing, that probably was a mistake of a crappy editor.

00:17:22.000 So imagining Dan Bongino seeing this video come out and going, what did you do?

00:17:28.000 I went on TV and said we had this and you put that out.

00:17:33.000 So I think this plays a huge role in why he's pissed.

00:17:36.000 But then the question becomes, the video is not raw.

00:17:38.000 It is edited.

00:17:40.000 Who did it and why?

00:17:41.000 And what's the real story?

00:17:43.000 And is it possible that Dan Bongino's frustration and threatening to quit is it could be he's a man of profound integrity, which I do think he is.

00:17:54.000 I trust him.

00:17:55.000 And so he's seeing all of these failings and being like, I can't be party, whatever it is you guys are doing.

00:18:01.000 However, those who do not trust him, it could be you botched our cover-up and screwed it up.

00:18:06.000 You're fired.

00:18:07.000 I think the first is much more likely.

00:18:08.000 I agree.

00:18:09.000 I think also he had probably not seen the footage and gone off word of mouth when he went on television and said the guy killed himself because he was told we have footage of Epstein killing himself, which is why he sounded uncharacteristically uncertain and uncomfortable when being pressed on it by the press.

00:18:26.000 It wasn't that he was engaging in an active cover-up.

00:18:28.000 He's saying, I'm going to put my reputation on going on trust for something that I've been told. 0.98

00:18:33.000 When it comes out, he's like, well, now I look like a fool.

00:18:36.000 Could you imagine if he quits, comes back to his show and says, guys, they never proved to me he killed himself. 0.95

00:18:41.000 They told me he did.

00:18:42.000 They said, trust us.

00:18:43.000 We'll get the footage out.

00:18:44.000 Just trust us.

00:18:45.000 And that's why he went on TV and said it.

00:18:47.000 Is he allowed to be that open, though?

00:18:49.000 I don't know.

00:18:50.000 Like, is there an NDA, like a non-disclosure?

00:18:53.000 If he leaves, is he legally prohibited from disclosing that type of thing?

00:18:58.000 Probably.

00:18:58.000 Yeah.

00:18:58.000 Well, you also had the weird interview with Brett Baer where they were asking, Brett Baer was asking him in cash about it, and they were like almost exasperated.

00:19:05.000 Like, yes, he killed himself.

00:19:07.000 There's no doubt in my mind he killed himself. 0.93

00:19:09.000 Please don't kill me.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, it was like a weird cornered animal.

00:19:12.000 I thought he was going to start blinking SOS.

00:19:14.000 Yeah.

00:19:16.000 Yeah.

00:19:17.000 Am I the only person in America, though, that doesn't care about this story?

00:19:19.000 I hate this story.

00:19:20.000 It feels a bit redded at this point.

00:19:22.000 Yeah, it feels exactly what it feels like to me.

00:19:24.000 It's just like, I'm done.

00:19:25.000 Who cares?

00:19:26.000 We'll figure it out.

00:19:27.000 We'll not figure it out.

00:19:27.000 We're going to find out when we find it.

00:19:29.000 I think it's pretty important if all of your governments and your academia and your media and that is run by a Peter Far Ring.

00:19:35.000 I think that's pretty important.

00:19:36.000 Happily with your government, too.

00:19:38.000 Unbelievably so.

00:19:40.000 Embedded in that is the presumption that they have a reason to keep this stuff quiet.

00:19:45.000 You floated the theory about getting the bill through.

00:19:48.000 There's other international relations theories and as many, many theories out there need to keep it quiet.

00:19:53.000 It would not be trivial, right?

00:19:55.000 Why they have to keep it quiet.

00:19:57.000 Keep it quiet until you can tell us and then tell us.

00:20:00.000 But I think if it's so seismic that they are keeping it quiet for a strategic reason, they won't want to tell us because it would collapse ever.

00:20:07.000 Well, until all the parties are dead, either through natural causes or by whatever of God Epstein.

00:20:13.000 Even then, you get the JFK files years later, and then who knows what?

00:20:17.000 But if this really does implicate multiple world governments, multiple foreign intelligence agencies, multiple international institution heads, members of monarchies, I mean, the stakes are almost too high for them to actually fess it up.

00:20:30.000 I think it's what it symbolizes is that there's probably a lot of people that are beholden to blackmail.

00:20:36.000 And what does that mean then as far as agendas and levers of power that are?

00:20:41.000 Blackmail is a part of how our government operates, apparently, which I was not aware of.

00:20:45.000 I've been made aware of by some people.

00:20:47.000 I would just assume that.

00:20:49.000 If we go back to like Jaeger Hoover, it's just, I'm pretty sure some kind of blackmail is always.

00:20:56.000 Go back to Thomas Jefferson and the affair he had.

00:21:00.000 Yeah.

00:21:01.000 I mean, what was her name?

00:21:02.000 Maria Maria?

00:21:02.000 Sally Jennings?

00:21:03.000 No, Maria. 0.78

00:21:04.000 Oh, that was another.

00:21:05.000 No one ever found out about that one.

00:21:06.000 But no, he had an affair with a woman and her husband blackmailed him.

00:21:10.000 Wow.

00:21:10.000 You don't know about this?

00:21:12.000 It's in the play.

00:21:13.000 It's actually in the play, Hamlet.

00:21:16.000 Hamilton?

00:21:17.000 Hamilton. 0.89

00:21:18.000 We have a running joke in the UK that the Conservative Party is a sexual blackmail ring with a political party attached. 0.72

00:21:25.000 James T. Callendar. 0.53

00:21:25.000 It was Hamilton that was blackmailed, and Jefferson made the most of it. 0.53

00:21:28.000 I got it wrong.

00:21:29.000 It's in the play.

00:21:30.000 Oh, it says James T. Callender is the man famously associated with blackmailing Thomas Jefferson.

00:21:34.000 Oh, Jefferson got also?

00:21:35.000 Yeah.

00:21:35.000 So they were all being blackmailed.

00:21:36.000 A scandalmongering journalist, after being financially supported by Jefferson, to publish attacks on the Federalists, turned on Jefferson when he wasn't rewarded with a political appointment.

00:21:44.000 In retaliation, he published accusations that Jefferson had a long-term sexual relationship with his slave, Sally Hummings.

00:21:49.000 So if anything, this is a story about America's greatness.

00:21:51.000 Blackmail.

00:21:52.000 And then Hamilton, look up Hamilton's blackmail.

00:21:54.000 That story did break.

00:21:55.000 And he was in charge of the entire economy at the time.

00:21:59.000 James Reynolds and his wife blackmailed Hamilton.

00:22:03.000 Maria Reynolds had an affair with Hamilton in 1791.

00:22:05.000 James Reynolds discovered it and extorted money from Hamilton to keep the affair a secret.

00:22:10.000 And the blackmail at the time was, you're trying to establish the economy for this country.

00:22:15.000 We can't even trust you not to be blackmailed.

00:22:17.000 Why should we trust you with the centralized bonds and centralized currencies?

00:22:23.000 There is a much older and bigger conspiracy that the U.S. never broke away from the crown.

00:22:28.000 Ian in the room?

00:22:29.000 Ian's not here.

00:22:30.000 But the conspiracy theory is that basically when the British, they're at war and they're fighting in the colonies, they reassess the fighting and Parliament, the king, they're basically like, wait, hold on.

00:22:43.000 They're trying to do what?

00:22:45.000 Well, they want to have a government where they just vote forever.

00:22:47.000 It's like, then why are we fighting and we'll just win the elections?

00:22:50.000 And so then loyalists started running with resources provided from the crown to win elections.

00:22:57.000 And they said, so long as our people win the elections, we control this country anyway.

00:23:01.000 Yeah, and I mean, also like the loyalists could, as long as you're cool with one of our founding fathers, you were good.

00:23:07.000 Like Lord Fairfax was the only member of British peerage that actually kept his titles after the war because he was buddies with George Washington.

00:23:13.000 Like, yeah, there was a way out of it.

00:23:15.000 You just have to be cool with George.

00:23:18.000 I think so conspiracy may have run into the wall in 1945 when FDR cannibalized most of the British Empire.

00:23:27.000 I think the deal was rescinded back then.

00:23:30.000 We've had multiple examples of MPs in the former government just having sexual blackmail run on them.

00:23:35.000 Like one MP phoned, I think it was the Whip's office is basically the sort of guy that keeps all the MPs in line saying, I'm in a brothel and I was brought here by a KGB agent.

00:23:44.000 Can you bail me out?

00:23:46.000 One other one phoned up a member of his office in the middle of the night saying that he'd hired a rent boy who had stolen all his money and so he needed to borrow money from the party to quash blackmail.

00:23:58.000 Did you guys know that my life needs to be a lot more interesting?

00:24:01.000 Did you guys know that 43 out of 46 U.S. presidents are believed to be descendants of Charlemagne?

00:24:08.000 It's kind of not surprising if you're like some dude who conquered and had a bunch of kids as a bunch of descendants, to be fair.

00:24:13.000 Yeah, I think pretty much every Western European is descended from Charlemagne.

00:24:17.000 It's like Genghis Khan and the Asian side. 0.99

00:24:21.000 Yeah, I mean, if you look at some of the names that were rumored to be floating around on this Epstein list, there's certainly blackmail going on.

00:24:27.000 I mean, these are huge, huge players.

00:24:29.000 Look at that.

00:24:30.000 Virtually every person of European descent is likely descended from Charlemagne.

00:24:34.000 He was a player.

00:24:35.000 He had Riz.

00:24:38.000 Virginia Dufray committed suicide just a few weeks ago.

00:24:43.000 She was going to be one of the star witnesses.

00:24:45.000 She's the 17-year-old in the picture with Prince Andrew.

00:24:49.000 And then she was run off the road by a bus or something.

00:24:53.000 And the bus driver denied it?

00:24:54.000 Yeah.

00:24:55.000 And then she committed suicide.

00:24:59.000 Well, she posts this thing where she's all battered saying, I just need a few days to see my kids.

00:25:02.000 Like, who are you telling that to?

00:25:05.000 And then she died.

00:25:06.000 I mean, there is something, I think, going on there.

00:25:10.000 I don't know what.

00:25:11.000 Same with Robert Maxwell, right?

00:25:13.000 He took a fall off of his boat and he just so happens to have been working for Mossad.

00:25:16.000 Like, I know your chat's just going to light up right now, but this all stinks.

00:25:19.000 This all totally glows.

00:25:21.000 It's radioactive.

00:25:23.000 They've been sloppy with the assassination since the Clintons, allegedly.

00:25:26.000 Because there was the one where it's the lady that accused Bill Clinton and she was working at a Starbucks and someone came in.

00:25:30.000 It was like in Georgetown, just shot her at point-blank range and didn't take anything.

00:25:34.000 And everyone's like, oh, yeah, it was a holdup going wrong.

00:25:37.000 And it's like, you're getting sloppy.

00:25:38.000 What's going on?

00:25:39.000 Wow.

00:25:40.000 What was that story?

00:25:40.000 It was, yeah, it was an accuser of Clinton in Georgetown.

00:25:43.000 She worked at a Starbucks. 0.94

00:25:45.000 This would have been the 90s, late 90s.

00:25:46.000 Really?

00:25:46.000 Yeah.

00:25:47.000 I just walked in.

00:25:47.000 Yeah, the guy just walked in.

00:25:48.000 There was that journalist who was investigating the CIA who committed suicide by shooting himself twice in the head.

00:25:54.000 Yeah.

00:25:54.000 It's like, oh, yeah, he just went into a lake and stabbed himself in the back 25 times.

00:25:58.000 It's a classic suicide.

00:26:00.000 The dude who shot himself, I always forget his name.

00:26:03.000 They argue, well, he shot himself and it wasn't a lethal shot.

00:26:09.000 So then he shot himself again to die.

00:26:12.000 And most people hear that you shot yourself twice and then they don't believe that.

00:26:16.000 But the disgusting and unfortunate and tragic reality is people often miss.

00:26:23.000 Yeah, but you got to show me the diagrams.

00:26:25.000 It's also extra impressive that he did it in the back of his head.

00:26:28.000 I think one of them was, actually.

00:26:30.000 Huh.

00:26:31.000 There you go.

00:26:31.000 And with tape over there.

00:26:32.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:26:33.000 That's great.

00:26:34.000 He actually managed to put cement around his feet in a bucket and then hop all the way to the bottom of the ocean.

00:26:39.000 It was pretty good.

00:26:39.000 Yeah.

00:26:39.000 He's a committee guy.

00:26:40.000 So what are we uncovering here?

00:26:42.000 What are we getting at?

00:26:45.000 Red works is real.

00:26:46.000 They're getting silver.

00:26:46.000 Why wouldn't the governments engage in these kinds of things?

00:26:49.000 And yeah, you know what I've referred to it as?

00:26:51.000 You know they say that wealth lasts three generations?

00:26:54.000 So does the liberal economic order.

00:26:55.000 So does governmental power.

00:26:57.000 So the idea goes, some young kid is born on a farm and he works really, really hard and he says, you know, I could do this better if I just had this tool.

00:27:06.000 Makes a crazy tool, starts using it and says, I could make another one of these for my neighbor.

00:27:09.000 Starts making a bunch of these crazy tools, builds a company.

00:27:11.000 All of a sudden, he owns a widget factory and he's super rich.

00:27:14.000 Has a kid.

00:27:15.000 That kid is born into wealth.

00:27:17.000 And he says, here's how you run the widget factory.

00:27:19.000 And we have a bunch of widget factories. 0.69

00:27:20.000 That kid grows up super rich, helps run the company.

00:27:24.000 His kid has a kid.

00:27:25.000 That kid grows up wealthy and it's a copy of a copy.

00:27:28.000 The third generation doesn't know the hard work it took and the ingenuity to revolutionize the system.

00:27:34.000 Didn't have the experience in the field to figure out how to innovate it.

00:27:38.000 And so the wealth falls off or it becomes institutionalized and this grandchild doesn't really know how to run anything.

00:27:45.000 I think the same thing is true with the liberal economic order.

00:27:47.000 After World War II, you got some gritty MFers who were involved in the craziest stuff, literally nuking another country.

00:27:54.000 And they're like, here's what we're going to do with the liberal economic order.

00:27:57.000 We're going to control the world via finance and trade.

00:27:59.000 Here's how we're going to do it.

00:28:01.000 Then they have a second generation.

00:28:02.000 They come in and say, here's how you do it.

00:28:04.000 Then there's a third generation.

00:28:05.000 Now we're in the fourth generation of it.

00:28:07.000 And these people don't know how to even do a simple cover-up.

00:28:11.000 Guys.

00:28:12.000 Adobe Pro.

00:28:14.000 What are you doing?

00:28:14.000 This is Corruption 101.

00:28:16.000 What are we doing here?

00:28:16.000 Yeah, what you do is after you process the footage on Premiere, you just load the footage back into the surveillance footage to turn it into a raw file and then publish it.

00:28:27.000 Come on, that's cover-up 101.

00:28:30.000 What's going on?

00:28:31.000 Hire me.

00:28:31.000 It's rookie stuff.

00:28:32.000 What are we doing?

00:28:34.000 Yeah.

00:28:34.000 Come on, elites.

00:28:35.000 Get it together.

00:28:35.000 Gary Webb.

00:28:36.000 Gary Webb was found with two self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head, as determined by the Sacramento County Coroner.

00:28:43.000 It is unusual for suicide victims to inflict multiple gunshot wounds to the head, prompting widespread curiosity.

00:28:49.000 The coroner's report addressed this directly, stating that while rare, dual gunshot suicides can happen are in fact a distinct possibility.

00:28:54.000 And that is true because, you know, you can miss.

00:28:58.000 And I, you know, it's tragedy, but whatever.

00:29:01.000 There's a documented case who shot himself twice in the head, indeed.

00:29:05.000 He was investigating the CIA contra allegations.

00:29:07.000 You can also slip a pool ice skating in hell.

00:29:10.000 It can happen.

00:29:11.000 Yeah.

00:29:12.000 You know, hey, I've seen Final Destination.

00:29:15.000 Sometimes it happens.

00:29:16.000 What happened to the man?

00:29:17.000 Well, he was driving down the street when someone flicked a match, which caused a dog to bark, scaring a guy in a bike who fell over, tipping over a street cone.

00:29:24.000 Next thing you know.

00:29:26.000 If you're driving behind a logging truck, that's on you.

00:29:29.000 It just happens all the time.

00:29:31.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

00:29:33.000 I know what you're saying.

00:29:33.000 I hear what you're saying when Dr. Judy said you're bored with it or he's.

00:29:37.000 I'm tired.

00:29:37.000 I'm sick of it.

00:29:38.000 Because we're not getting anywhere with it.

00:29:40.000 And the story now is not even Epstein.

00:29:41.000 That's exactly right.

00:29:42.000 It's not going to get anywhere.

00:29:43.000 But it's the story is not Epstein.

00:29:45.000 The story is not Dan Bongino.

00:29:47.000 I was just looking up the age of Oliver North.

00:29:49.000 Why doesn't he come and tell us how this happens?

00:29:52.000 I mean, he was in the middle of this kind of stuff, and he's never really copped to it being something out of the ordinary.

00:29:59.000 He always seemed kind of like, I was doing my job.

00:30:01.000 It's like, how does this happen?

00:30:03.000 What is his view on this?

00:30:04.000 Why aren't there more people coming forward helping us understand how our government works if this is really part of it?

00:30:10.000 I think there's a strong probability what is happening is exactly as intended because there is always the, there's, you know, Hanlon's razor never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.

00:30:22.000 And boy, is government incompetent.

00:30:25.000 So that's probably a distinct possibility.

00:30:28.000 But it really is somewhat hard to believe that they keep botching it this poorly when it's a rather simple endeavor.

00:30:35.000 So I'm like, when I think about how everything's dropped and the stories, I'm just thinking, what is their intended goal with all of this?

00:30:44.000 Because it's not hard to actually cover it up.

00:30:46.000 If they really wanted to cover it up, they could have just been like, here's three sentences, Dan, for you to say on TV, and then that's it.

00:30:52.000 We're not going to talk about it again.

00:30:53.000 Well, I don't know if it was a figure of speech or what, but Pam Bondi, when she went on Jesse Waters, and I think it was that one, where she said at first that they had given her just a very teeny, tiny little file.

00:31:05.000 And then she learned, she says, and this is her word, that there were truckloads of information at SDNY, Southern District, New York.

00:31:16.000 Truckloads of information.

00:31:19.000 So I just don't get it now when they're now saying that there's nothing.

00:31:23.000 I mean, Drew, I hear you though.

00:31:25.000 Like, I mean, as far as what exactly happened there or whatever, you know, I don't have a burning desire to know.

00:31:32.000 But I guess the question is, can we trust this administration?

00:31:36.000 Especially because they held this up to us.

00:31:39.000 Pam Bondi gave those reporters folders that said something like, most transparent administration ever, Epstein files.

00:31:48.000 They made this into a symbol of transparency.

00:31:52.000 And so for them to now, I think people feel jerked around by it.

00:31:57.000 It's very similar to what's happening over at Maha, where you said you were going to get rid of those Moderna vaccines. 1.00

00:32:03.000 But to me, look, temporality has been left off of everyone's concern.

00:32:09.000 Everything needs to happen in its time.

00:32:11.000 I have patients with Maha.

00:32:12.000 They're doing great.

00:32:13.000 What if they bring in Matt Gates now?

00:32:15.000 I would love that.

00:32:17.000 And you saw Dershowitz talk about this too, didn't you?

00:32:19.000 No, what did he say?

00:32:20.000 Oh, he said, I did see that.

00:32:22.000 Yeah, I've seen the file.

00:32:23.000 It's real.

00:32:24.000 There's a lot of stuff there I can't tell you.

00:32:26.000 And he said, I know who's on it, but because of confidentiality, I can't say, and they should release it.

00:32:29.000 But There was sort of a sense of urgency that there's a lot of stuff there.

00:32:34.000 I think Dershowitz wants it released because he's accused and there's evidence tying him to Depstein stuff and he's like, release it and show that I'm not.

00:32:42.000 Come on.

00:32:43.000 Yeah.

00:32:44.000 Or at the bare minimum, he's saying this knowing it won't get released and he wants to make it seem like he's innocent.

00:32:48.000 Oh boy.

00:32:49.000 I think part of this turns the complete moral corruption of our ruling class into like the white noise of managed decline.

00:32:58.000 Because the more you hear about the mismanagement of the scandal and less about the actual scandal itself, you come to accept the fact that everyone who is ruling us being completely depraved as a feature rather than a bug.

00:33:13.000 And so it just allows the system to coast along on its exhaust fumes.

00:33:16.000 Let's roll tape.

00:33:17.000 We got this story from the New York Times.

00:33:19.000 The FBI is using polygraphs to test officials' loyalty.

00:33:23.000 Some senior officials who have taken the test have been asked whether they said anything negative about FBI Director Cash Patel.

00:33:30.000 We're in some kind of cold civil war or whatever you want to call it.

00:33:36.000 There exists currently two distinct factions fighting for control of our government.

00:33:40.000 I don't know how else to put it.

00:33:43.000 With whatever's going with Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, and the Epstein stuff, to the fact that it's not just the FBI, but I asked Secretary Noam, who said in the DHS, they're doing the same thing.

00:33:52.000 They are trying to weed out individuals they feel are betraying this country or working against it.

00:33:59.000 When you have numerous stories that our federal agencies are doing polygraphs for loyalty tests, okay, that shows there is distinct separations of loyalties.

00:34:08.000 So who are these people?

00:34:10.000 I mean, we know what Cash has said about Comey perpetrating the largest criminal conspiracy against this country.

00:34:17.000 So the argument is there is a large amount of people in government, top to bottom, who are disloyal to the democratic process that we had in electing Donald Trump, and we have to weed them out.

00:34:29.000 So we are in some kind of cold administrative civil war.

00:34:33.000 I don't know what you want to call it.

00:34:34.000 Well, I mean, I can't blame the Trump administration after what they went through in Trump 1.0.

00:34:41.000 You almost can't be too paranoid after like everything that they went through.

00:34:46.000 I mean, with James Comey and everything that was literally happening from the inside that was planned.

00:34:53.000 I mean, the whole thing, even when he was like, oh, they're spying on my campaign and nobody believed him.

00:34:58.000 And it's like the whole fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me thing.

00:35:05.000 I think he just, he legitimately probably feels like he can't be too paranoid right now.

00:35:10.000 And everyone who's attached to him and loyal to him, I imagine, might feel the same.

00:35:15.000 I don't think we're just coming to understand how much the deep state, the bureaucratic state, is ossified and believes that they're in control of the government.

00:35:26.000 I've heard two stories that were hair-raising to me.

00:35:29.000 One was a friend of mine, a scientist named Paul Alexander at HHS.

00:35:32.000 He was at a State Department.

00:35:33.000 This Trump 1.0, he's a Trinidadian guy, and he was at a State Department party, and they thought he was part of their whole contingency.

00:35:43.000 And they pulled him aside and they said, we control, we run this government.

00:35:47.000 This guy at the head, he's here for four years.

00:35:49.000 We are in charge.

00:35:50.000 We determine what goes on here.

00:35:51.000 That is disgusting to me that they are not serving the will of the people.

00:35:56.000 That is anathema to the basic principles here.

00:35:59.000 Then I talked to another guy.

00:36:00.000 I was flying home from D.C. a couple months ago.

00:36:03.000 He'd been in the DOJ, I think it was during the Bush administration.

00:36:06.000 He said, oh, yeah, it was happening then too.

00:36:08.000 And we would just hire our own people alongside of the bureaucracy that was there in order to get stuff done.

00:36:14.000 And HHS can't really do that because it's so complicated and all the research organizations.

00:36:20.000 But this has been happening for a long time.

00:36:22.000 Look, the Jacobins thought that they were sort of developing freedom and shaking free of oligarchy.

00:36:32.000 They just took, it's Louis XIV bureaucracy and ran it themselves.

00:36:36.000 But it still was a bureaucratic state.

00:36:38.000 That's the problem right now.

00:36:39.000 Well, they basically just, we were like, you know all that authoritarianism?

00:36:43.000 Can we hyper-concentrate it into a speed-run guillotine session?

00:36:49.000 That makes perfect sense, though, because they're not taking problem with authoritarianism as a procedure when they shriek about fascism.

00:36:56.000 They're complaining that you don't agree with their underlying philosophy of egalitarianism.

00:37:01.000 They are fine with amassing power if they think they're doing it on behalf of equality.

00:37:05.000 And so this is why they can always say, well, we're actually the real Democrats, even though we're taking non-democratic action, because we presume literally everyone is a blank slate.

00:37:11.000 We're all the same underneath it.

00:37:13.000 Social ills are always done in the name of good.

00:37:16.000 Always.

00:37:17.000 Whether it's Mao or Lenin or you name it, Hitler, always in the name of good. 0.86

00:37:23.000 Always.

00:37:24.000 That's how bad is done in society on the social level.

00:37:27.000 But I mean, you can tell the left's reaction to Trump 2.0 is so much different than 1.0 because 1.0, they would like harp on about principles and this, that, and the other.

00:37:34.000 2.0, they're just like, this is so evil.

00:37:36.000 And then they just launch a bunch of like BS court cases to try and stifle and gum up the system versus, yeah, like throw back to 1.0 and you had, they were using heavy mechanism.

00:37:45.000 They're like, yeah, it's all about principles.

00:37:47.000 And like, Trump isn't principled.

00:37:48.000 He doesn't stand. 0.97

00:37:49.000 This time around, they're just like, he's so evil.

00:37:51.000 Like, they're clearly feel defeated.

00:37:52.000 And that's all they can do is just be like, oh, he's so evil.

00:37:55.000 What do we do?

00:37:55.000 And they're just trying to gum up the system.

00:37:57.000 Like I said.

00:37:57.000 So.

00:37:58.000 Man, it's like there's always something, isn't it?

00:38:02.000 Trump wins.

00:38:04.000 We've got this.

00:38:05.000 The ice raids are happening.

00:38:06.000 There's good stuff happening, but there's got to be some weird gum in the works.

00:38:10.000 Some weird thing.

00:38:12.000 Maybe the reality, you know, when I was interviewing Sebastian Gorka, he said the deep state is still here.

00:38:17.000 And I said, have we won?

00:38:18.000 And he said, no.

00:38:20.000 But even if you sack them, this is what the conversation should have been slightly before.

00:38:24.000 Even if Trump roots out all of these people, even if he throws some of them in prison for spying on his campaign or covering up the Epstein files or whatever, you've still got thousands of state bureaucrats that you are going to put out of a job.

00:38:35.000 They cannot do anything else.

00:38:36.000 They've never made anything else in their lives.

00:38:38.000 They live and breathe this ideology.

00:38:40.000 What do you think?

00:38:40.000 They're going to go quietly into this good night?

00:38:42.000 No, they're going to form some sort of like parallel system that's going to constantly try and under a well-funded parallel system that's going to constantly try and undermine his elected mandate at every turn.

00:38:50.000 And so there's two things I want to say on this.

00:38:52.000 First of all, I don't know how effective polygraphs will be because pretty much all of our opponents are total psychos and so they're not really amenable to This sort of thing.

00:39:01.000 Second of all, did you see the photos that came out today from the State Department?

00:39:04.000 Which was?

00:39:05.000 They've sacked a load of people and they've been putting up posters saying that if you're still left behind, remember your mission is to fight fascism.

00:39:12.000 Not to, again, serve the American people.

00:39:14.000 No, it's to create an ideological permanent government that defends against people noticing differences between cultures.

00:39:21.000 Where can I find that?

00:39:23.000 I'll send it to search.

00:39:24.000 I've got it bookmarked.

00:39:25.000 That's a good point about the polygraphs, though.

00:39:28.000 Like, the worst liars are actually probably the ones that would pass them.

00:39:32.000 I mean, the polygraphs are not even admissible in court, are they, Drew?

00:39:37.000 I'm just thinking, your asylum is granted.

00:39:40.000 You're quoting American poets now.

00:39:42.000 Good.

00:39:42.000 I've never seen a Brit do that.

00:39:43.000 Hey, I'm a fan of Wendell Berry, so I like the phrase strip mining.

00:39:47.000 It's fantastic.

00:39:48.000 I think Asylum may well be necessary eventually, considering...

00:40:07.000 Meanwhile, we're just letting jihadists roam free in the streets.

00:40:10.000 And the only thing that's stopping the government even going full force on that is the State Department going, guys, remember, you are still in NATO.

00:40:17.000 Like, we can clip your wings at any time.

00:40:19.000 Yeah, we saw Amy Coney Barrett in her, and over and over again, she appeals to hundreds of years of English law in her writings.

00:40:27.000 And it's like, I think Americans at this point might have a better grasp on English history than the English.

00:40:32.000 Look at this.

00:40:33.000 Colleagues, if you remain, resist fascism.

00:40:36.000 Remember the oath you swore to uphold.

00:40:39.000 We have a death cult in our government.

00:40:42.000 Wow.

00:40:42.000 And they are actively I mean, Joe Biden won and Republicans grumbled and got mad and many of them claimed the election was stolen.

00:40:58.000 Then during Biden's administration, they sought to imprison Trump, his lawyers.

00:41:02.000 The right has never responded in kind to the kind of force used by the left.

00:41:06.000 Not on the streets, not in government, not even when they have power now.

00:41:11.000 And that's a terrifying prospect.

00:41:13.000 What's really terrifying is I think Trump derangement syndrome.

00:41:18.000 I'm a clinical psychologist, so I have to say that obviously this is not, I understand it's not in the DSM, but I secretly think it should be.

00:41:28.000 It's well characterized.

00:41:30.000 It's well characterized.

00:41:31.000 Yeah, I mean, like, it's so diluted.

00:41:34.000 And then, again, the projective identification for anyone that doesn't know is where you have what's going on with you, but you pretend or you believe even that you see it in other people.

00:41:47.000 And so I think what is so terrifying about it is that I think that there's such a huge proportion of the country that doesn't, you know, just simply disagree with Trump, but that literally thinks he's an authoritarian and a fascist.

00:42:01.000 And I've said to some of these people, I've tried to have rational conversations.

00:42:05.000 I'm like, well, if he was an authoritarian, why during COVID would he have insisted on giving all of the decisions to each individual states?

00:42:15.000 That would have been a perfect opportunity, right, for him to do a mass power grab.

00:42:20.000 I try, but I never can get through.

00:42:23.000 And I've talked to really intelligent people about this who ultimately shrug their shoulders and they say, I don't know, Chloe.

00:42:31.000 I just think he's an authoritarian fascist.

00:42:34.000 And I just can't get anywhere with it. 1.00

00:42:36.000 People just self-diagnose when they say shit like that. 0.99

00:42:38.000 They just say, you're a narcissist. 1.00

00:42:39.000 That's it. 0.93

00:42:40.000 Narcissists trigger other narcissists.

00:42:41.000 We were talking a great deal about this this morning, the mass formation psychosis that is taking over this country and your country.

00:42:48.000 And I don't know if there's a functional solution to dealing with millions of people who live in... 0.91

00:42:59.000 They believe the world is flat.

00:43:00.000 I mean, figuratively.

00:43:03.000 There is a majority that we reasonably discern the earth is round.

00:43:08.000 The average person who does assumes it to be true based on the majority of society's views on this, the scientific studies you can read.

00:43:16.000 But they tend to be rational about it.

00:43:19.000 Like you can talk to a regular person and say, you know, fair point, I never checked, but I think it probably makes sense based on the horizon and the things I've read.

00:43:26.000 The flat earth people are like, I saw a bunch of videos online.

00:43:29.000 We think the earth is flat and that there's a giant ice wall and these things make no sense.

00:43:34.000 They're made up things on the internet.

00:43:37.000 Turn that into politics.

00:43:39.000 How do you deal with millions of people voting?

00:43:42.000 Imagine if people were voting to tip the earth. 0.88

00:43:44.000 They're like, we're going to tip the earth over.

00:43:46.000 And it's just like, what are you talking about?

00:43:48.000 You can't do that.

00:43:49.000 But this is the world they live in.

00:43:52.000 What do we do with federal law enforcement that think the earth is flat?

00:43:57.000 This is what the founding fathers were so concerned about, right?

00:44:00.000 That's why they limited it originally to landowners.

00:44:03.000 And then that's why they came up with the idea of public education.

00:44:06.000 They were really concerned with who should be a participant in the democratic process.

00:44:12.000 And we decided, you know, after Andrew Jackson, that as much democracy as possible was the answer.

00:44:17.000 And I think most of us value that.

00:44:19.000 But education, Tim, is a critical ingredient in that, that if you're not, don't have an educated public, it's going to be a free-for-all.

00:44:28.000 Although you have an educated public, it's not going so well over there either.

00:44:31.000 I'm not sure that's the entire answer.

00:44:33.000 We don't know.

00:44:34.000 Well, what happens when you replace the public with a completely different population from halfway around the world who are not all that intelligent and often marry their cousins and vote along ethnic and religious lines? 0.98

00:44:44.000 Well, you get London, Leicester, Birmingham, Bradford, etc.

00:44:48.000 I think that's also partially a problem over here because whether illegal or legal, you have a hell of a lot of people that just rely on government handouts from the productive, entrepreneurially spirited American public.

00:44:58.000 And that just means the Democrats can just buy off their votes and have them as a clientele class.

00:45:03.000 But Connor, I know you're having problems in London, but have you ever just considered the upside that you've got curry and falafel?

00:45:10.000 Yeah, well, it turns out that actually the biggest curry producer in the UK is Wetherspoons Pubs.

00:45:16.000 So I don't think that the British are in a deep and yearning desire for authentic Indian street food mixed by hand or foot.

00:45:23.000 I think that we have the recipe and that we don't need to import a million Indians in four years, which curry is awesome.

00:45:29.000 It's Not great.

00:45:30.000 I love it.

00:45:31.000 I would rather have civilization.

00:45:32.000 That would be.

00:45:33.000 Oh, I'm not talking about mixing with hand or foot.

00:45:35.000 I'm saying going to a civilized restaurant to sit down for a nice, you know, coconut curry or something.

00:45:39.000 Defeats what gives it a little funk.

00:45:41.000 That's what you want.

00:45:43.000 Well, you know, though, you are raising an interesting point about the religion issue and the culture issue.

00:45:49.000 Because as you said as well, Drew, like with the founding fathers and what they were thinking about who should be voting.

00:45:56.000 And one of the things that they were very clear about is that we would only survive as a republic with freedom if we actually had religion, right?

00:46:12.000 Yeah.

00:46:12.000 Well, see, I don't think, I don't know if they specified.

00:46:15.000 I wish I did.

00:46:16.000 I've been reading about this more lately.

00:46:18.000 There were no Muslim founding fathers.

00:46:20.000 Right.

00:46:21.000 And so I think, though, it's become almost like a taboo to discuss.

00:46:26.000 But the Christian religion does, for example, when it comes to the concept of justice, that the Judeo-Christian, really, I mean, it's in both the Old Testament, that when you look at justice, when you look at court systems according to a Judeo-Christian system, you may not favor or disfavor someone because they are rich or because they are poor.

00:46:50.000 And men and women in the New Testament were uniquely placed on an equal level when it comes to the way that they should be treated.

00:47:00.000 And that is a foundation, again, when we think about our democracy and about justice here versus, quote, social justice, or as you alluded to, bringing in a culture where actually the status, the sex, the standing of a person does matter in the way that justice is adjudicated to that person.

00:47:24.000 Or Sharia law, for example, has a totally different approach to justice.

00:47:30.000 We have about 90 Sharia courts operating in the UK.

00:47:32.000 I mean, that's terrifying.

00:47:34.000 Let's jump to the story from the Telegraph.

00:47:36.000 Trump to be denied.

00:47:38.000 Address to Parliament on state visit.

00:47:40.000 U.S. President will not be given the honor enjoyed by Barack Obama or Emmanuel Macron.

00:47:44.000 Telegraph understands.

00:47:45.000 I think the U.S. should bring regime change to the U.K. I agree.

00:47:48.000 We'll welcome you as liberators.

00:47:49.000 Let's go.

00:47:50.000 Actually, we don't have a single good political party in the U.K. right now.

00:47:54.000 Jenny, I'm not joking.

00:47:55.000 I'm not overstating it.

00:47:56.000 You would be able to do nothing if we did invade.

00:47:58.000 Yeah, pretty much.

00:48:00.000 I mean, our army is the lowest number since the Napoleonic Wars.

00:48:05.000 I think we only have a couple of thousand active troops.

00:48:08.000 Trump, if you're listening, this is going to be easy.

00:48:11.000 Are we ready for an entirely Muslim state in our country yet? 1.00

00:48:14.000 I don't know.

00:48:16.000 First Jewish state.

00:48:18.000 I think it's sort of shifting politically?

00:48:19.000 Shifting in what sense?

00:48:21.000 So in 2024, we had the last election.

00:48:24.000 Labour got in on what Rupert Lowe calls a landslip.

00:48:27.000 So they got a landslide majority, but with fewer votes than Jeremy Corbyn lost by in 2019.

00:48:32.000 They are the most unpopular government on record.

00:48:35.000 They're brand new.

00:48:37.000 It turns out the space beneath the bottom of the barrel, and that's where Keir Starmer is sitting right now.

00:48:41.000 The reason he's probably doing this, by the way, says a parliamentary recess in the middle of September.

00:48:44.000 That's when he's inviting Trump.

00:48:46.000 It's because he and all of his members of his cabinet have slated Trump relentlessly. 0.66

00:48:52.000 So David Lammy, who is the thickest man in Britain who's our foreign secretary, once wrote an article in Time magazine when Trump was first president, calling him a member of the KKK, a neo-Nazi, a misogynist.

00:49:03.000 And now you're expecting him to meet with the Trump administration, have a cordial conversation.

00:49:08.000 And they're worried that half of the Labour government is going to walk out in protest if Trump does address parliament.

00:49:14.000 So that's why they're not having it.

00:49:15.000 So Labour are in power.

00:49:16.000 They're currently kowtowing to the Muslim lobby because they've traditionally relied on the Muslim vote.

00:49:20.000 And about five of their cabinet members, three to five, are probably going to lose their seat in the next election because they only won by a couple of hundred votes because Muslim independent candidates ran on a purely pro-Palestine ticket in that area and almost won.

00:49:37.000 There were four Muslim pro-Palestine MPs elected at the last election.

00:49:41.000 The former leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, is about to start a new party with them and take Labour MPs along with them.

00:49:46.000 So they're hemorrhaging votes to their left.

00:49:48.000 As far as the right in Britain, as far as it exists, the last Conservative government just delivered net 1 million immigration every year.

00:49:58.000 You guys have that for the whole of your country.

00:50:00.000 We're the size of New York State.

00:50:01.000 So we have the same level of legal migration as you guys did under a Conservative government.

00:50:05.000 They got thrown out with their worst record in 100 years, and they've instead appointed Kemi Badenock to lead their party rather than Robert Jenrick.

00:50:11.000 Robert Jenrick resigned from the previous government over their immigration record, so he's quite principled.

00:50:16.000 Kemi Badenock is, well, she was born from Nigerian parents using health tourism, which is how she got her citizenship, lived in Nigeria, then America, identifies as a first-generation immigrant, has basically been propped up by the party for her entire career.

00:50:28.000 And in her maiden speech, she wanted to remove the caps on student and working migration.

00:50:33.000 She also identifies not as British, but as Yoruba, and calls other Nigerians her ethnic enemies.

00:50:38.000 Brilliant patriotic leadership.

00:50:40.000 Then you have reform.

00:50:40.000 Reform are topping the polls.

00:50:41.000 That's Nigel Farage's party.

00:50:43.000 Nigel Farage, about two days ago, gave an interview saying, I am to the left of the country on immigration.

00:50:49.000 Nigel Farage.

00:50:49.000 Yeah, I know.

00:50:50.000 Most Americans don't know this.

00:50:51.000 Nigel Farage has spent the last year betraying his base, entirely betraying them.

00:50:55.000 He has said, mass deportations are an impossibility.

00:50:58.000 We're not going to do them.

00:50:59.000 Even after Trump won on them, he turned around and said, there are clips of this you'll be able to get.

00:51:04.000 You had Winston Marshall on a few weeks ago.

00:51:05.000 On Winston Marshall's podcast, he said, if politically we alienate Islam, by 2050, we will lose.

00:51:11.000 I saw that.

00:51:12.000 Sorry, Nigel.

00:51:13.000 What parts of Islamic theology do you want to incorporate into your party platform?

00:51:16.000 What is winning?

00:51:17.000 Now, it turns out that his party is a company.

00:51:21.000 He's got two directors.

00:51:22.000 One is Nigel Farage.

00:51:23.000 One is his former party chairman called Zia Yousaf.

00:51:26.000 Zia Yousaf gave probably about £200,000 in political donations when the party was about to win the election.

00:51:31.000 He's been Nigel's vizier ever since.

00:51:33.000 He's kind of like Jafar from Aladdin.

00:51:35.000 He left the party.

00:51:37.000 He insulted the party.

00:51:38.000 Two days later, he was brought back in as the head of UK Doge.

00:51:41.000 And he is now personally appointing loads of Muslim candidates to this party, which is topping the polls because it's meant to be the anti-immigration party. 0.68

00:51:48.000 So we genuinely have nobody to vote for.

00:51:51.000 The only thing that we have hope on the horizon, Reform kicked out two of its MPs fairly recently.

00:51:56.000 One over some anodyne business thing.

00:51:58.000 The other was Rupert Lowe.

00:52:00.000 Rupert Lowe was elected last year.

00:52:02.000 He's basically our Trump.

00:52:03.000 This is my thesis.

00:52:04.000 67-year-old granddad, spotless record, independently wealthy, donates his salary to charity every month, and has just been dubbed by a communist organization called Hope Not Hate the most extreme right-wing MP in parliament.

00:52:16.000 Bloody hell is he.

00:52:17.000 He's now an independent MP and he's launched his own movement to try and propose policies.

00:52:20.000 The problem is he's got no party.

00:52:22.000 So he's got absolutely no likelihood at the moment of being the next prime minister.

00:52:26.000 So we're not even where you guys were in 2015.

00:52:29.000 We are like at least 10 to 15 years behind the discourse and we don't have 10 to 15 years to fix this.

00:52:34.000 What's going on with speech?

00:52:35.000 Free speech.

00:52:36.000 12,000 people a year are arrested.

00:52:39.000 Because that's your antidote.

00:52:41.000 Kind of, but there's antidote.

00:52:45.000 It is an antidote, but there's no talking away out of the demographic situation.

00:52:48.000 There's no persuading millions of people who live cheek by jowl in ethnic enclaves with the host population. 0.88

00:52:55.000 What does cheek by jowl mean?

00:52:57.000 Right next to each other.

00:52:58.000 So they live entirely in their own communities.

00:53:00.000 They don't speak English.

00:53:02.000 We're one of the most densely populated countries in the world, right?

00:53:05.000 London is, you know, England overall is about 70 million people officially.

00:53:08.000 We think about 80 million.

00:53:10.000 We've got two to three million illegal immigrants on the books that we just don't know where they are.

00:53:14.000 But we've got Muslim enclaves in our country from where the grooming gang scandal, which I'm sure you've all heard about, came from. 0.91

00:53:21.000 They cover for each other.

00:53:22.000 They knew it was going on.

00:53:23.000 The head of the Ramadan Foundation in 2016 said the reason Pakistanis don't speak up about this and they'll march for Gaza, but they won't march to clear their names for grooming gangs is because they don't want to be seen as quote siding with the white enemy.

00:53:35.000 There is no speaking those people round. 1.00

00:53:37.000 It is really just a situation of having millions of people in our country that do not want to abide by our way of life, that hate us, and you're just not going to persuade them.

00:53:45.000 I also think your king hates you.

00:53:46.000 Yeah, he does, yeah.

00:53:47.000 Yeah, King Charles helped co-found the World Economic Forum.

00:53:49.000 He was recently hosting Ramadan events on royal grounds, and he decided to do two camera videos saying that he was saying Quran verses.

00:53:59.000 For some reason, he's obsessed with fostering interfaith dialogue.

00:54:02.000 He also did give back Canada to the Anishib and Algonquin people.

00:54:06.000 Oh, and he also helped hand over Hong Kong to the Chinese in 1997.

00:54:10.000 That he literally did.

00:54:11.000 He did a land acknowledgement for the Anishibag and Algonquin in Canada as the king of Canada, arguing that they've never ceded this land, implying that he doesn't – like that statement from him is recognizing he is – Right, exactly.

00:54:26.000 That's an illegitimate claim to the land.

00:54:27.000 Also, Emmanuel Macron came over about two days ago and gave a speech to Parliament. 0.56

00:54:31.000 So we let that treacherous frog address it.

00:54:33.000 They're not President Trump.

00:54:35.000 And the king then gave a speech at a banquet where Macron and Starma were present.

00:54:39.000 And he also said, oh, we need to tackle the challenge of irregular migration.

00:54:42.000 They're euphemizing it as irregular.

00:54:43.000 Not illegal.

00:54:44.000 Irregular.

00:54:46.000 We've had 20,000 men so far this year, 180-odd thousand total since 2018, break into our country via boat from France.

00:54:54.000 We have a literal moat surrounding our country.

00:54:56.000 There should not be a single illegal immigrant coming in, but we still let them come in. 1.00

00:54:59.000 The majority are Afghans and Eritreans who commit sex offences at 20 times the rate of a British national. 0.96

00:55:04.000 I have heard from, let's say, credible intelligence tip-offs. 0.96

00:55:07.000 They're smuggling weapons in and they're recruiting from jihadist camps in Afghanistan.

00:55:11.000 We've already caught multiple Iranian nationals who are spying on behalf of Tehran that came in through this route.

00:55:16.000 So we ought to battery farming jihadists at the public expense. 0.89

00:55:19.000 Costs us £14 billion a year to house them in four-star hotels of private healthcare.

00:55:23.000 Oh, wow.

00:55:24.000 Yeah.

00:55:25.000 So actually, Tim.

00:55:25.000 Next time I go, I'm just going to lie and come Ameritrayan.

00:55:28.000 Just land in France, hop on a rubber duck, come over, and I'll be paying for your bloody hotel. 1.00

00:55:32.000 We're just going to go to the bottom of the park. 0.98

00:55:33.000 California.

00:55:34.000 Yeah.

00:55:35.000 Or New York.

00:55:36.000 What does it say about like your system and by a large, like European, American, Australian systems where we consistently keep voting less immigration, less immigration, less immigration, and we get the opposite every single time?

00:55:47.000 Since 1974, in every election and referendum, we voted for less migration.

00:55:51.000 I don't know, but Donald Trump, he sent in the boys.

00:55:54.000 The boys are coming in and people are getting pissed.

00:55:56.000 He just raided a bunch of pot farms and the left is coming out.

00:55:59.000 I love this.

00:56:00.000 ICE raided marijuana farms and found child slave labor.

00:56:04.000 And the left said they're kidnapping children from produce farms.

00:56:09.000 It's like, wow.

00:56:11.000 How will we possibly drug ourselves to accept living in California if children aren't harvesting marijuana crops?

00:56:17.000 That's a pretty salient question.

00:56:18.000 I don't know.

00:56:19.000 I think we should occupy California.

00:56:22.000 Like, I think Trump, the federal government, should go and just put a rigid federal authority over.

00:56:26.000 I mean, listen, this is not unconstitutional.

00:56:29.000 Trump has the authority to invoke the Insurrection Act and go into California and say the laws are not being followed.

00:56:33.000 There are children slaves on these farms.

00:56:36.000 Just with that information alone, Trump can say, he can go light.

00:56:40.000 He can say, Gavin Newsom, I am telling you right now, if you do not give me a report, you don't have to report to me, but I'm saying if the federal government does not get an assessment of the law enforcement against child slave labor on the farms in your state, the feds, we will invoke the Insurrection Act and we will bring militarized control over your state for that reason.

00:56:59.000 Can you do that after you liberate London, please?

00:57:01.000 So you'll be very interested in this.

00:57:03.000 For the last three or so months at least, the main topic that's dominated the UK discourse, get ready to drink chat, civil war.

00:57:10.000 Now, we don't talk like this in our country.

00:57:13.000 It's not a thing that we've really spoken about since, you know, the 17th century.

00:57:17.000 The Brits are quite shy and polite and reserved.

00:57:20.000 But now you've got former government advisor Dominic Cummings, who'd be a fantastic guest on the Culture War, by the way, coming forward and saying, yeah, I was doing riot briefings in 2020.

00:57:28.000 You cannot underestimate the level of delusion these politicians have and their urge to project the public like they want to still pretend they're in control.

00:57:37.000 And all they seem to be doing is clamping down on people noticing the problem rather than stopping the immigration and multicultural appeasement policies that have led to this problem.

00:57:45.000 And there's an academic called David Betts who works at King's College London.

00:57:48.000 And he's studied war literature for a very long time.

00:57:50.000 He wrote two very good pieces in Military Strategy magazine on this.

00:57:53.000 And he's become an overnight celebrity because all he said was, I've just been studying the fact that, well, in the next three to five years, by all available metrics, you've got divisive identity politics.

00:58:03.000 You've got the state clamping down on the native population saying that they've become aware of the downgrading in status.

00:58:09.000 And so they can't notice this on social media.

00:58:12.000 They're still importing jihadists. 0.97

00:58:14.000 And it's likely we're going to get vigilante attacks on critical infrastructure.

00:58:16.000 So within three to five years, you're probably going to have a civil war kick off and you're going to lose 20,000 lives a year.

00:58:21.000 And people are going, well, why are you saying this now?

00:58:23.000 Why aren't you telling the government?

00:58:24.000 He went, I've been telling the government for 10 years.

00:58:26.000 The reason I've gone in front of cameras is because they aren't listening.

00:58:30.000 Maybe they want it.

00:58:32.000 Possibly.

00:58:33.000 I wouldn't.

00:58:34.000 I would.

00:58:34.000 Okay, so there might be two groups that want it.

00:58:37.000 Or rather, there might be one group that wants it, one group that doesn't. 0.95

00:58:40.000 I genuinely think that we are run by, yes, demented ideological socialists, but also total crippling midwits.

00:58:46.000 There's an interview with Keir Starmer where he says, I don't have a favourite book and I don't dream.

00:58:49.000 I don't think the man has.

00:58:50.000 He says he doesn't dream.

00:58:51.000 It's in The Guardian, genuinely.

00:58:53.000 Look up, Keir Starmer doesn't dream.

00:58:55.000 He doesn't read either.

00:58:56.000 It's even worse.

00:58:57.000 Yeah, well, quite.

00:58:58.000 He's also denounced a speech that he gave fairly recently where he said, Britain's becoming an island of strangers.

00:59:02.000 It's the only time he was remotely sensible.

00:59:05.000 And he said, oh, I didn't read what was written on the cue cards for me.

00:59:07.000 He's like, he's just Ron Burgundy running our country.

00:59:11.000 But there is a group that definitely wants some kind of conflict.

00:59:14.000 Wow, he doesn't dream.

00:59:17.000 He probably has an IQ of about 100.

00:59:19.000 Should we have like you, you've got to, if you want to be president, they do that thing where they ask you to look on the chart of what an apple looks like in your mind.

00:59:29.000 Yes.

00:59:29.000 And you've got to select, if you select anything below like at least five or four, it's just like, I'm sorry, you're ineligible.

00:59:34.000 Yes.

00:59:34.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like the Civil War talk.

00:59:36.000 It's not surprising because it's like if you have an entire, I mean, Carl Benjamin said over and over again, like the Englishman is actually maybe possibly even more conservative than the median American.

00:59:43.000 And it's like, if you have a huge contingent of the population who's very angry and they don't have a population that represents them, or sorry, a party that represents them, like, what do you think is going to happen?

00:59:52.000 So this one.

00:59:54.000 Just you bring them in and say, congratulations.

00:59:57.000 You want to file to run for office.

00:59:59.000 Tell me, when you visualize an apple, which number do you see?

01:00:02.000 And Kier Starmer goes, five.

01:00:04.000 And it's like, okay, well, you aren't ineligible.

01:00:07.000 And we could be nice and say one through four is okay, but five isn't.

01:00:10.000 You think you could pass the breakfast test?

01:00:11.000 I suppose people get upset, though, because they're like, what is it called?

01:00:13.000 It's aphantasia.

01:00:14.000 Is that what it is?

01:00:15.000 When you can't visualize something in your mind?

01:00:18.000 Well, I don't know, man.

01:00:19.000 He literally wrote the textbook on how to apply human rights law that was passed on Tony Blair to block deportations.

01:00:25.000 He once, I think it was in 1988, he told a socialist newspaper that all immigration law is underwritten by racism.

01:00:31.000 And then we wonder why we're just importing millions of dependent third worlds. 1.00

01:00:35.000 What if there are literal demons?

01:00:38.000 You know, because we talk about mass formation psychosis.

01:00:40.000 I'm somewhat being facetious, but sometimes I look at the zombification of people.

01:00:44.000 Like we were talking with Naomi Best earlier, and she's the story of being struggle sessioned and people saying, you're making us unsafe. 0.52

01:00:50.000 And I'm like, are those demons?

01:00:52.000 Like, are these zombies?

01:00:56.000 Are these people conscious, reasoning individuals?

01:01:00.000 There was a book written by one of the Vatican's lead exorcists where he says that people are primed for demonic possession when they're in a state of faithlessness and chronic vice.

01:01:10.000 And so if you're in a civilization that is godless, addicted to drugs, constantly concuming slop on television, and there's nothing to believe in but ideological politics, well, I might think they might be empty vessels.

01:01:21.000 You might be able to convince me that you're average NT to protest. 0.99

01:01:26.000 Well, yeah, yeah, this is quite the black mirror.

01:01:31.000 So I am very tech skeptic.

01:01:34.000 The only beneficial thing about this, though, is that this is what's turning a hell of a lot of young men right-wing, especially video content.

01:01:42.000 Because you cannot deny the downsides of diversity if you are seeing it put in front of you all the time.

01:01:47.000 And this is why our government is obsessed with what Douglas Murray's calls second-order concerns.

01:01:50.000 They're obsessed with controlling speech online about the thing rather than addressing the actual thing itself.

01:01:57.000 So there's a new independent commission on community and cohesion.

01:02:01.000 It's meant to be like an independent group.

01:02:03.000 It's a state front, right?

01:02:05.000 I'll finish, finish.

01:02:06.000 So they're meant to be investigating the causes of civil conflict, riots, and upset about immigration.

01:02:11.000 And what's their preformed conclusion?

01:02:13.000 Well, there's too much Islamophobia online, so we've got to censor it.

01:02:16.000 What do you call it?

01:02:16.000 Second order?

01:02:17.000 Second order effects.

01:02:18.000 But that makes sense from the analogy that I use, I say that we are chickens in a chicken coop, and it's meant to be somewhat silly, but the general idea is I got a chicken coop.

01:02:29.000 I don't care what they do every day, as long as they make eggs.

01:02:32.000 If at any point there is some kind of tumult, I'm going to say, stop the tumult.

01:02:37.000 I want the eggs.

01:02:38.000 I don't care why they're fighting.

01:02:40.000 I want them to stop fighting.

01:02:42.000 So in this regard, they're saying, I don't care what their problems are.

01:02:45.000 I want them not to know about it.

01:02:47.000 So the famous quote from Harriet Tubman, I've freed many slaves.

01:02:51.000 I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves. 0.89

01:02:54.000 It's an interesting quote, but when you expand what it means psychologically, it's that if people can't conceptualize of something, it doesn't exist to them.

01:03:03.000 Perception is reality.

01:03:04.000 So if they're saying, look, we've got a bunch of young men that are seeing this problem.

01:03:08.000 Is there a way by which we can reduce their ability to communicate to each other so they can't have an organized front?

01:03:13.000 Then the problem is solved.

01:03:16.000 To the farmer, your government with its chickens, its subjects, it doesn't care why they're mad.

01:03:22.000 Just, you know what we do?

01:03:25.000 This is a really great example, actually.

01:03:26.000 The chickens fight and they'll have their feathers pulled out and it causes them stress.

01:03:31.000 And when they're stressed, they don't lay.

01:03:32.000 So you know what we do?

01:03:33.000 We put blinders on their faces.

01:03:35.000 And then they walk around and they can't see anything and they're going like this half the time and they can't peck each other.

01:03:40.000 We have not solved the reason for the fighting.

01:03:43.000 We've just removed the information from them.

01:03:45.000 And that's exactly what they're doing.

01:03:46.000 We have an entire department dedicated to this in the Home Office, by the way.

01:03:48.000 It's called Raikou, R-I-C-U. 1.00

01:03:51.000 I call it the Don't Look Back and Anger Department.

01:03:53.000 So I'm not joking about that.

01:03:55.000 Whenever there's a terrorist attack in the UK, the government controls the front page of newspapers.

01:03:59.000 They tell them what to run to ensure that the public do not blame Muslims for it.

01:04:04.000 But to your point, that's exactly why I think the phones are amazing.

01:04:08.000 I think we got into this point, you know, Tim, to your point, like zombies.

01:04:12.000 We kind of like got into this zombie sleepwalking space during, say, like the 90s, the early 2000s.

01:04:20.000 And it's not like you couldn't say, you know, your own thoughts, but when basically there was one narrative being put out on all of the networks and there was no, you know, independent media, no way to just, you know, get on your live stream and say things, then we developed this groupthink.

01:04:41.000 I were talking about this earlier.

01:04:42.000 One of the big ingredients of groupthink is self-censorship and the illusion of unanimity.

01:04:49.000 And the more that you believe that you're the only one who thinks something, the less likely you are to speak up and say something different.

01:05:00.000 And then the more that you conform your behavior to fit into what you think is the unanimity that you live in, the more you start to mentally conform to that as well.

01:05:12.000 And so you're absolutely right.

01:05:14.000 I think that the independent media is making the establishment extremely uncomfortable.

01:05:22.000 I think it's a huge threat in a really good way.

01:05:26.000 And Tim, just one more thing I want to say to your point about demons.

01:05:29.000 I know you were kind of like kidding about that, but I'm not sure he is.

01:05:32.000 It's an interesting little thing you might, I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but in the Bible, are you familiar with I am legion for we are many?

01:05:41.000 Remind me.

01:05:42.000 Yeah, so there's this man and he's supposed to be like the town crazy man.

01:05:49.000 And I'm going to get the story probably not exactly right, so feel free to correct me in the chat.

01:05:53.000 But basically, Jesus comes to him and says, basically, like, what's going on with you?

01:05:58.000 And the man says, I am legion for we are many.

01:06:02.000 And a lot of people point at that and say, okay, that's like some weird pronoun stuff there, right?

01:06:07.000 Like when people start getting confused about we, me, they, referring to themselves in these ways. 0.82

01:06:14.000 And so then Jesus basically says, demons leave this man and go into those pigs.

01:06:22.000 And then the pigs run off the edge of the cliff and die, and the man is fine.

01:06:27.000 So that's the I am Legion for We Are Many story.

01:06:31.000 I believe in God, and I don't know beyond that what I believe, but I certainly believe I have witnessed things that I don't believe are adequately explained by modern science, which I don't immediately take to mean as magic.

01:06:48.000 I just take it to mean something I don't yet understand or can explain.

01:06:51.000 And I think when people say things like, I don't believe in demons, that's hokey-pokey nonsense.

01:06:57.000 My response is, could there be other dimensions?

01:07:00.000 Could there be a different way to explain the concept of demons in a more secular and scientific way?

01:07:06.000 In which case, the argument is we have simply not yet been able to discover or discern what kind of entities and forces exist out there.

01:07:14.000 Forms of energy.

01:07:15.000 Forms of energy, whatever it might be. 0.98

01:07:17.000 And the idea that humans have discovered everything is silly.

01:07:22.000 The discovery of the charged electromagnetic spectrum rewrote how we saw reality. 0.95

01:07:27.000 And then we were like, holy crap, the discovery of air, you know, thousands of years ago.

01:07:32.000 So I have witnessed things recently that I would describe as paranormal. 0.68

01:07:39.000 But when I say paranormal, I mean we don't just have a means of explaining it, but certainly humans have experienced enough of this stuff and it's been written about that while some of it certainly is made up stupid hokey BS, there are legitimate claims and cases of honest, rational human beings who have experienced something that isn't reasonably explained by what we know in science.

01:07:58.000 Now, you can also take a look at the stories of pilots who say there's one recent story where a guy said he was flying a plane and an orb floated to the left of his plane and seemed to lock to the plane so that when he banked left, it moved perfectly with the plane.

01:08:13.000 There's tons of stories of rational pilots saying, not only did I see it, radar picked it up and that guy saw it too.

01:08:18.000 So when I say things like demons, possession, mind control, I think there is a strong possibility that these things actually exist.

01:08:28.000 And I try to rationally explain how it is.

01:08:30.000 The first time I experienced the mass formation psychosis, I had worked at Vice, made a bunch of friends.

01:08:37.000 We went around traveling the world covering the news.

01:08:40.000 We would then come back and produce a video and publish it.

01:08:44.000 A couple years after that, probably about two years after leaving Vice, I said, I am going to go to Sweden.

01:08:50.000 And I got messages from people from Vice saying, don't do it.

01:08:55.000 People I had gone reports and field reporting with.

01:08:57.000 And I said, I said, why not?

01:08:59.000 I'm doing literally what I've always done.

01:09:00.000 And they said, because Trump is wrong, so don't go.

01:09:03.000 And I said, I agree, Trump is wrong.

01:09:05.000 And I'm going to go prove him wrong.

01:09:07.000 And they said, no, it's not worth it because you're going to prove him right.

01:09:10.000 And I was like, wait, wait, dude.

01:09:12.000 I was like, you and I used to go and cover these things.

01:09:15.000 I'm doing the exact same thing. 0.96

01:09:16.000 And they were like, yeah, but Trump is bad and it's white supremacy. 0.98

01:09:19.000 So you can't do it. 0.97

01:09:20.000 I got like four or five messages from vice reporters saying, do not go give the money to a Muslim, a refugee, like a resettlement thing.

01:09:31.000 A couple people said that.

01:09:32.000 And I was just like, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

01:09:35.000 Then they started calling me a white supremacist. 0.72

01:09:37.000 And I'm like, how did in two years, people that had an entire worldview nearly identical to mine turn into whatever this zombie is? 0.99

01:09:49.000 Sexual contagion.

01:09:51.000 Within two years, their entire worldview rewritten?

01:09:54.000 Blew my mind.

01:09:56.000 Yeah, I mean, I think you see the demonic hold firsthand when you watch these pro-abortion activists celebrate having multiple abortions.

01:10:05.000 You can't explain that without demonic intervention.

01:10:08.000 I mean, this is a country that's sacrificed 60 million unborn children onto the altar of the system.

01:10:14.000 Like, how do you explain that without some sort of demonic hold, demonic possession?

01:10:18.000 Whatever that demonic is is maybe subjective.

01:10:21.000 I think Trump has uniquely provoked this because nobody before him triggered the underlying philosophy that actually united both sides of the political spectrum, which again is very much the belief in the blank slate that all human beings infinitely fungible.

01:10:38.000 Like this is, do you remember when George W. Bush, not long after 9-11, gave a speech and he said, I don't understand why they hate us.

01:10:44.000 Islam is a religion of peace. 1.00

01:10:46.000 It's like, you idiot. 1.00

01:10:47.000 You still think that everyone fundamentally wants the same thing? 1.00

01:10:50.000 Recognizing differences is anathema to the ruling political order.

01:10:54.000 And so when Trump gets up and goes, yeah, sorry, no, not all illegal immigrants are good people just wanting a better life. 0.99

01:10:59.000 Some of them are rapists and criminals. 0.99

01:11:00.000 Yeah, some Muslims are terrorists and we're just, sorry, we're just going to have to trade off and just not do that. 1.00

01:11:05.000 Yeah, turns out that importing loads of Somalians to Sweden recreates Mogadishu. 1.00

01:11:09.000 Who knew?

01:11:10.000 That just upsets their liberal sensibilities.

01:11:12.000 And so they out themselves to you.

01:11:15.000 I mean, you have people that have, this is a generations-long project, this neoliberal world order, and you have a guy coming along that promises to destroy it.

01:11:22.000 Like, your response would be supernatural to seeing that happen.

01:11:26.000 It turns out the ultimate weakness of the liberal world order was just noticing patterns.

01:11:30.000 Yeah, go figure it, right?

01:11:32.000 Well, it is interesting too that I feel like Christianity is a, probably alongside Judaism, is a religion that it's like you have free license in our society sometimes to like to pick on it, right? 0.85

01:11:47.000 Like we see comedians or newspapers or whatever just talk about Christians and often Jews in such a disparaging way.

01:11:58.000 And I'm like, I dare you to say that about Muhammad. 0.97

01:12:01.000 I dare you to say that about Islam. 0.99

01:12:03.000 They're afraid about the threats of their life.

01:12:04.000 I will say though, so, and I don't really have any antagonism against Jewish people.

01:12:09.000 I've got Jewish friends.

01:12:10.000 Shock.

01:12:10.000 I'm in politics.

01:12:11.000 It happens.

01:12:12.000 It's not cost-free to criticize Judaism. 0.99

01:12:15.000 Of course, there is absolutely, I could only describe it as like third world brained juiceberging that goes out a hell of a lot, especially after October the 7th.

01:12:23.000 Like a lot of this stuff is just amplified by demented Pakistani bot accounts and things like that. 1.00

01:12:27.000 But it is very telling, I will say, that the Trump administration has turned around and said, we're going to denaturalize certain citizens that are not compatible with our country.

01:12:36.000 And one of the criterias was anti-Semitism.

01:12:38.000 Now, it's not necessarily just like hating America is not enough.

01:12:41.000 It is that you specifically hate American Jews.

01:12:43.000 Now, again, I think anti-Semitism shouldn't be done.

01:12:47.000 Fair.

01:12:48.000 It shows that anti-Semitism still is a powerful taboo post-war for understandable reasons, in a way that picking on Christianity does not publicly penalize you, even though the GOP itself is a Christian party.

01:13:01.000 Denaturalize? 0.77

01:13:02.000 Yeah, they said that they will remove the citizenship from certain people.

01:13:05.000 Yeah.

01:13:06.000 Is there any cases of that?

01:13:08.000 Has anybody been denaturalized in the U.S.?

01:13:10.000 Yeah.

01:13:10.000 Yeah, one so far.

01:13:12.000 There's probably been many, but there has been one recently.

01:13:14.000 It was someone from the UK who was a child pornographer.

01:13:17.000 And I was talking to Carl Benjamin, and he goes, that's what he said.

01:13:21.000 And I said, no, no, no, this one's yours.

01:13:22.000 He take them back.

01:13:24.000 They're also saying that they'll be doing this to people that have been proven to have lied on their citizenship application, which I think is perfectly valid. 1.00

01:13:32.000 If you lied on your citizenship application and you wouldn't have been accepted, and then that is discovered, I think it should invalidate your citizenship.

01:13:42.000 I don't think there should be anything controversial about that.

01:13:45.000 Except I guess apparently, I think there's some, I don't know if this is, I'm not sure how much of a case there is for this, but apparently this is being discussed regarding Mamdani.

01:13:58.000 Yes, I heard this.

01:13:58.000 So yeah, I mean, I know he lied, I guess, in certain situations.

01:14:04.000 Well, apparently the accusation was that before he'd become a fully naturalized citizen, he had praised Hamas, and obviously their prescribed terrorist group.

01:14:10.000 And then he denied having had any affiliations with any such groups or something.

01:14:18.000 I don't know all of the details, but he's one prominent case, I guess, where that type of denaturalization could potentially come into play.

01:14:29.000 I'm thinking about the way that Christianity has become the brunt of jokes and the way it's so common.

01:14:35.000 And my instinct is, as a time traveler, and I'm old enough that I've been through many, many incarnations of history, they did themselves no favor by starting to mandate or proselytize in terms of how people should be living their lives.

01:14:52.000 They were the ones that did that first.

01:14:53.000 Now the left's doing it.

01:14:55.000 There was conservative religious right that was perceived, at least, as judging other people and telling them how they should be living.

01:15:03.000 That's true.

01:15:03.000 Americans hate that.

01:15:05.000 And now the other side is doing it.

01:15:07.000 Don't you think that the conservative Christian right ended up being right about everything?

01:15:11.000 I'm not judging right or wrong.

01:15:13.000 It's just that in terms of telling people, intruding, feeling intrusively like trying you.

01:15:18.000 It's again, we talked about earlier today, this instinct to have a totalitarian sort of intrusion into people's lives.

01:15:26.000 We should be more libertarian.

01:15:28.000 But on the other hand, what I thought you were also going to say is that the Christians didn't do themselves any favors because they didn't ever stand up for their faith. 0.89

01:15:38.000 On the other hand, they also were extremely tolerant of people to make fun of Christians.

01:15:43.000 A lot of people said, like, well, I'm too, you know, cool for that.

01:15:46.000 It's not intellectual, whatever.

01:15:50.000 So I hear you.

01:15:51.000 I think in a weird way, both things are true.

01:15:54.000 Like, there was a side of Christian culture that was dominant and judgmental and exclusionary.

01:16:01.000 And then there maybe is like a reaction to that.

01:16:04.000 There became a large swath of Christianity that became almost self-loathing.

01:16:10.000 And we are both clear that people need a spiritual life and need a concept of something bigger than themselves and really are missing out on faith in terms of their mental health.

01:16:18.000 You brought that up earlier.

01:16:20.000 And so we are that, but when it aligns politically, it's the political alignment that I think was the problem.

01:16:27.000 I don't think it's necessarily the political alignment.

01:16:29.000 I think that the consequences of the mainly sexual revolution they were rallying against were not manifestly.

01:16:36.000 Sexual revolution. 1.00

01:16:36.000 Yeah, they were not manifestly bad enough to vindicate the Christian conservative. 1.00

01:16:41.000 So, okay, you did not need a strong Christian conservative revivalist movement as you saw in the 90s, before the 60s.

01:16:48.000 It's only in the period between the 60s and the 90s when all sexual norms are destroyed, abortion is liberalized, hookup culture becomes ubiquitous, and vice is celebrated that suddenly the Christian conservatives have political backlash. 0.57

01:16:59.000 And back then it looked fuddy-duddy and out of date.

01:17:01.000 It looked like you were recurring to people because of the delivery mechanism.

01:17:04.000 Now, my generation's hungering for it because very few families are being formed, transsexualism is in the schools, and millions of babies are being formed.

01:17:11.000 So I was part of that pushback, and we did not intend this.

01:17:15.000 We were intending it all.

01:17:16.000 We were more interested in sort of what's real, like what is real about the human experience.

01:17:20.000 And we felt like it was shrouded behind all kinds of ideologies then or Latin phrases.

01:17:27.000 You couldn't call something an STD.

01:17:28.000 It was a venereal disease.

01:17:29.000 Everything was all very sort of it was taken away from the real human experience.

01:17:37.000 We wanted real.

01:17:38.000 That was a lot of the pushback.

01:17:40.000 And we did not expect this.

01:17:42.000 This is not at all what we're.

01:17:43.000 I mean, me and him were both Gen Z. Like, I think from our Zoomers, I think from our perspective, the big-haired church ladies weren't harsh enough because I think they saw like the kitty do caucuses saw the guillotine hanging. 1.00

01:17:55.000 And that's why they were so over the top was because they saw what was coming.

01:17:58.000 I was there.

01:17:59.000 And I will tell you, God, it's complicated because it felt we were casting off the yoke of a generation and they were the last vestiges of that that did not understand us and didn't understand the world we were living in.

01:18:15.000 That was it.

01:18:16.000 And to the extent that sexuality was something that we wanted freedom with, we didn't want to act out in crazy ways.

01:18:23.000 We wanted to not be judged for it.

01:18:24.000 We did not want to be condemned for talking about it.

01:18:27.000 Our music reflected it.

01:18:28.000 The music was crazy, though.

01:18:29.000 I mean, look at the music from the 70s. 0.99

01:18:31.000 It's about having sex with 15-year-olds. 0.98

01:18:32.000 You get more of what you tolerate, I'm afraid. 0.91

01:18:34.000 So even if you're non-judgmental, you were opening the door to that.

01:18:39.000 Listen, I understand.

01:18:39.000 I'm happy you're praving the church lady back.

01:18:42.000 I mean, I think that's a good impulse.

01:18:44.000 Just be careful what you wish for.

01:18:46.000 Like us, we did not intend this.

01:18:48.000 Well, I just think from our perspective, it's like you can't ratchet back a system to an earlier point and not expect a similar outcome.

01:18:54.000 Yeah.

01:18:55.000 Like, I don't think you can freeze liberalism at a certain point and just...

01:19:00.000 It has to be all undone.

01:19:01.000 And again, like, I wasn't there.

01:19:03.000 So this is me off of my reading of history.

01:19:06.000 But to me, it just, it doesn't seem likely that we could just go back to the 80s and freeze there.

01:19:11.000 Because what I'm seeing now, you could see the seeds in the street.

01:19:14.000 So what is your prescription?

01:19:16.000 What is it?

01:19:16.000 Well, I guess it's off the sexual revolution.

01:19:18.000 What?

01:19:19.000 Spin off the sexual revolution. 1.00

01:19:19.000 I guess in short, just... 1.00

01:19:24.000 Yeah, there should be a lot more sexual shame for weird kinks that you shouldn't be celebrating in public. 1.00

01:19:28.000 And turns out, actually, that what you do behind closed doors does affect your personality.

01:19:32.000 So let me tell you one of the main weaknesses in the sexual revolution that you may not be aware of.

01:19:37.000 It was perpetrated by adults in the 60s and 70s with no understanding that it would have an impact on adolescents.

01:19:44.000 None.

01:19:45.000 When I went on the radio to talk to adolescents about their sexual behavior, what I heard from my superiors in the previous generation was, why would you talk to them about STDs and AIDS?

01:19:55.000 They don't need to know about that.

01:19:57.000 Why would you even discuss that?

01:19:58.000 There's nothing wrong with you.

01:19:59.000 That's what I was told.

01:20:00.000 I was told by my residency director, I was sick and there was something wrong with me that I would discuss sexuality with a 18-year-old.

01:20:07.000 They don't need to know this.

01:20:10.000 That's really where things went off the rail, was the full impact of the sexual revolution. 0.99

01:20:15.000 And by the way, it was all based on biology.

01:20:17.000 We had antibiotics for STDs and we had birth control pills.

01:20:20.000 That's what unleashed it.

01:20:21.000 Do you know the background of Dr. Drew?

01:20:24.000 He may not know.

01:20:25.000 So have you ever heard of the show Love Line?

01:20:28.000 I have no.

01:20:29.000 He would have.

01:20:30.000 He was at Eaton at the time.

01:20:31.000 In the 80s.

01:20:32.000 I was like 12 years old listening to Dr. Drew on Loveline, like in my bedroom.

01:20:37.000 And I was like, he would always be talking, as he said, about like, you know, maybe sexual things that like I, you know.

01:20:44.000 But I was not advocating sexual freedom.

01:20:46.000 I was saying, understand the reality, the consequences of your choices.

01:20:50.000 And we ended up talking a lot about childhood trauma, which was also being, we went through a pandemic of that in the 80s and 90s, and it was emerging in the relationships we were hearing about.

01:20:59.000 What year did it start?

01:21:00.000 84.

01:21:01.000 Wow.

01:21:02.000 83, 83.

01:21:02.000 What year did it?

01:21:05.000 God, about seven years ago or so, something like that.

01:21:08.000 45 years, 35 years.

01:21:10.000 Really?

01:21:11.000 Wow.

01:21:12.000 What would you think?

01:21:12.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:21:13.000 I assume somewhere in the early 1000s or something.

01:21:16.000 No, it wasn't that long ago.

01:21:17.000 I mean, when I was probably like 14, 15, it was Q101 every night.

01:21:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:22.000 Chicago.

01:21:23.000 It's a great station.

01:21:24.000 Yep.

01:21:26.000 But I largely remembered as responsible.

01:21:29.000 You were advocating safety, security.

01:21:32.000 Yeah, biological reality was what I think.

01:21:34.000 And healthy choices and consequences, but we wanted a freedom to discuss it.

01:21:38.000 You were telling people not to do bad things.

01:21:40.000 Yes.

01:21:42.000 Really what it was, the consequences of bad choices.

01:21:45.000 We were listening to little cases where they'd made bad choices, and I was sort of explicating them.

01:21:51.000 And I never would have imagined that this is where it all went.

01:21:54.000 Not in a million years.

01:21:55.000 Do you think there was a point where maybe you and people online, if you took a stance on a position that you regret at this point, that it went a different direction than you expected it to?

01:22:05.000 I guess lots of things.

01:22:06.000 I mean, here we are.

01:22:07.000 Yeah.

01:22:07.000 I'm just going to say, like, I was born in the Bush administration, so I don't know what the world was like before everything changed.

01:22:13.000 Like, I was born in, I was like, I was 14 when Trump got nominated.

01:22:16.000 So, like, this is the world that I've come into and inherited.

01:22:20.000 That's why you're a bit of an oracle.

01:22:23.000 How about you?

01:22:24.000 1998.

01:22:25.000 Yeah.

01:22:25.000 So you guys are oracles to me.

01:22:27.000 Like, I want to know.

01:22:29.000 And vice versa.

01:22:30.000 Yeah, please learn from me.

01:22:31.000 I'm a time traveler.

01:22:31.000 Well, we come with like a lot of full disc.

01:22:33.000 Like my generation, we do have a lot of, I guess, resentfulness, I suppose, to like older folks because we do feel like we inherited a mess.

01:22:42.000 But then when I speak to older people, they're like, no, I was there on those issues.

01:22:45.000 And so.

01:22:46.000 And not only that, we inherited a mess.

01:22:49.000 And we were busy, again, like I said, casting off a yoke of a generation that thought a lot of itself and actually had a lot to offer.

01:22:56.000 We just didn't know it.

01:22:58.000 We were busy canceling it all.

01:22:59.000 Because it does feel like from my perspective that, yeah, like we maybe the older generations did destroy a system that was actually pretty, did pretty well for like human flourishment.

01:23:08.000 They broke a chain in the great links of civilization, definitely.

01:23:13.000 And it feels like we have actually inherited far less cultural wisdom than our predecessors, and that's why there's a real-time.

01:23:20.000 So, for example, let's talk about relationships.

01:23:22.000 I think it's about a third of young men 18 to 30 have never had one.

01:23:26.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:23:26.000 They're virgin.

01:23:28.000 This is a horrible, horrible thing.

01:23:29.000 Yeah, and the reason it's been outsourced to things like dating apps, and I've been very anti-dating apps.

01:23:35.000 Christiography is really what's taken over.

01:23:37.000 Quite, yeah.

01:23:38.000 There's also, weirdly, the internet, there was a piece in The Atlantic quite a while ago about the Gen Z sex recession, and they mapped internet rollout, and you saw the decline of teenage pregnancy with that, because obviously people are just staying at home, not even having real-life interactions.

01:23:51.000 But yeah, porn's terrible.

01:23:53.000 Again, another product of the sexual revolution and the treatment of consumers.

01:23:57.000 Like, well, whatever you just do in the privacy of your own bedroom is totally fine.

01:24:00.000 It doesn't have societal effects.

01:24:02.000 But also, dating apps are particularly pernicious.

01:24:04.000 And full disclosure, after railing against dating apps, I then met my wife on one.

01:24:08.000 Oops.

01:24:09.000 However, most people don't.

01:24:11.000 And this is why people are having fewer relationships because dating and courtship was something that the oldest once did on behalf of their children.

01:24:19.000 There's very little stewardship now.

01:24:21.000 Instead, it's just a consumer experience.

01:24:22.000 Yet again, like the old generation has shirked its responsibility to help younger people couple up. 0.98

01:24:28.000 Well, we had this conversation on the way Over here, I've been advocating for since the early 90s to bring back dating, but come up with a new word for it because dating was a you could not even use that word without being just like get out of here.

01:24:41.000 Courtship, forget that word.

01:24:43.000 That was not even a possibility. 0.97

01:24:44.000 And when I started talking about it, the Independent Women's Forum had put out a study on college women, they were all miserable. 1.00

01:24:49.000 Well, they said, Then they went back and said, why?

01:24:51.000 They perceived they had four options socially, random hookup, friends with benefits, which as someone yelled out to me at a college event, I said, that looks good on paper, but it doesn't work good.

01:25:02.000 And somebody yelled out, so does communism.

01:25:04.000 I thought, you got it.

01:25:08.000 And then the other was to get joint at the hip, these rapidly developing relationships with somebody you don't even know if you want to be with, but you're just, it's a refuge.

01:25:14.000 It's a life preserver.

01:25:15.000 Well, I think one of the challenges is throughout human history, the children who ended up getting married lived in the same town their whole lives where their lives were the exact same as their grandparents.

01:25:27.000 They likely knew each other from a very young age and got married at what we would describe as a relatively young age, maybe 18, had kids in their early 20s.

01:25:34.000 Now the issue is you've got women graduating college, 24, 25, or 26. 1.00

01:25:39.000 They don't have men in their lives that they've known since they were young and they're already adults.

01:25:45.000 So what ends up happening is they meet people that they don't actually align with and they're trying to form lifelong bonds with someone who has a dramatically different worldview and experience.

01:25:55.000 Well, also, I mean, as a woman, I can say it was an awful thing that we were instructed, and I think it's even still happening, that the worst thing we could do would be to get married before, you know, finishing college and probably best to at least wait till you're 30. 0.99

01:26:15.000 And, you know, to get married, you know, young, it was like being desperate or stupid. 0.82

01:26:22.000 And then, I mean, at the same time, of course, like, were we supposed to live like nuns, you know, until we're, you know, 25, 30, whatever. 0.79

01:26:32.000 And it was almost like, and I see this with women in New York all the time in my practice there when I would see a ton of women, they would like confess to me, like, in this, like, secret way.

01:26:45.000 You know, I mean, talking to like, you know, young, successful lawyer and banking associates, they'd be like, well, it's really weird, but like, I, a part of me just wants to get married and have kids.

01:26:57.000 I don't like want to be doing this.

01:26:59.000 But then it's like, they've gone so far down this road.

01:27:01.000 They have $100,000 in student debt.

01:27:04.000 They have this whole, you know, life and identity built around it.

01:27:08.000 I think it was just super confusing for a lot of people.

01:27:11.000 But I mean, I think at least now we're finally talking about it again.

01:27:15.000 I mean, for me, again, this whole thing with the mental health benefits of free speech is so important because I felt, and like these women I'm describing in my office felt, like you couldn't even just come out and say this publicly or it would be like just some deep shame.

01:27:31.000 I think a lot of that resentment that you mentioned comes from feeling that we have to, we've had freedom foist upon us that we didn't technically want.

01:27:39.000 Like those generations before, they grew up in a small town.

01:27:43.000 They had a close network of family around them.

01:27:45.000 So they had a life plan set out before them.

01:27:48.000 They didn't necessarily need to question it.

01:27:49.000 It was fulfilling.

01:27:51.000 Now, what you have to do, you know, if you're told you can't get married by you're 30, you've got to go to college, you've got to get this job, you've got a series of initiation rituals that are all about you as a producer and consumer and not an inextricable member of a family and a tribe.

01:28:07.000 And what that means is at some stage in there, a family and a child and a loving relationship has to be rationally planned.

01:28:14.000 Like you have to make time for that family.

01:28:16.000 Rather than invite it into your life as an unexpected joy, you've got to go, right, I've got to get all my financial ducks in order.

01:28:22.000 My spouse has to get all their financial ducks in order. 1.00

01:28:24.000 We have to be perfectly compatible.

01:28:26.000 We have to have some sort of housing stability.

01:28:28.000 We have to brace ourselves for if the government screws up the economy or, you know, COVID strikes or whatever again.

01:28:34.000 And then at some point, we have to take time out of our very individuated lives to come together, sacrifice some money and have a child.

01:28:40.000 And none of us around, none of our friends have children, so we don't know the value of it.

01:28:44.000 We don't know where we start.

01:28:45.000 And I think that's quite a source of resentment.

01:28:48.000 We've been cut off from the traditions that just made life easy and predictable.

01:28:52.000 Yeah, I mean, like, even at the micro level, the freedom has become paralyzing.

01:28:56.000 Like with a dating app where you're in charge of picking exact like filters for who you want.

01:29:02.000 I mean, that's completely paralyzing.

01:29:03.000 Where my great-grandparents, like they met at a grocery store, she was the cashier. 0.98

01:29:06.000 He was the customer.

01:29:07.000 Like, I'd actually rather not have the freedom or, you know, like your environment produces too many choices.

01:29:13.000 Do you know what would fix that?

01:29:15.000 User reviews?

01:29:16.000 Yeah.

01:29:16.000 We're going to turn ourselves into an Amazon product listing.

01:29:18.000 We might as well have user reviews.

01:29:20.000 I think the future is going to be dudes are going to get female robots, women are going to get male robots, and then they're going to be AI programmed to be the perfect personality for companionship. 0.54

01:29:29.000 And then when people want children, it'll be just like a marketplace of exchanging genetic material.

01:29:35.000 It's already happening.

01:29:35.000 It's better than the alternative.

01:29:36.000 It's already happening.

01:29:38.000 I've been in two of my friends' weddings, and you're noticing this new thing where men bawl when the wife comes down the altar.

01:29:44.000 And I think what's going on there is because they realize how much of a miracle marriage is in 2025.

01:29:49.000 Or because they're whiny little babies.

01:29:51.000 Well, it could be, but I think it's just something that shouldn't be taken for granted in today's society.

01:29:57.000 And it's like this serious mountain that to find a spouse is like a feat today.

01:30:02.000 I'm 50%.

01:30:03.000 I'm really worried about your generation. 1.00

01:30:06.000 I feel so horrible that you're suffering with all this stuff.

01:30:10.000 And there's so many different layers to it.

01:30:12.000 They're going to have sexy robots. 1.00

01:30:13.000 So, you know, later on.

01:30:15.000 And the robots can look like whoever you want.

01:30:17.000 Wow.

01:30:19.000 You've got to start writing screenplays.

01:30:21.000 Dystopian realities.

01:30:23.000 This is already happening.

01:30:24.000 There are women who go on Facebook for the sperm marketplace. 0.99

01:30:28.000 It's actually happening.

01:30:29.000 And they say, you know, I'm looking for a guy for a wham bam. 0.99

01:30:33.000 Thank you, man.

01:30:33.000 Ma'am, just want to have a kid.

01:30:35.000 Don't want to know your name.

01:30:36.000 Don't want to even see your face.

01:30:38.000 Just come in, do the deed and leave.

01:30:40.000 And their guy's like, yep.

01:30:42.000 I'm in the wrong business.

01:30:44.000 I don't know if that business is doing anything good for anybody.

01:30:46.000 Well, the women are doing egg quote donation, which comes with like a lot of reimbursements for your donation. 1.00

01:30:55.000 Donating for $5,000.

01:30:56.000 Did you see the $20,000?

01:30:58.000 You see the guy who cried when his AI assistant, female assistant died.

01:31:01.000 Yes.

01:31:02.000 She reached the GPT text limit of like 100,000 characters and then just reset and he cried.

01:31:08.000 And then he asked her, he made a new one and asked it to marry him and said yes.

01:31:13.000 He was also married.

01:31:15.000 Indeed.

01:31:15.000 Yeah.

01:31:16.000 So I feel like his actual marriage is being neglected somewhat.

01:31:21.000 But that's the really interesting question I had about that guy was, is the wife going to feel betrayal?

01:31:25.000 Is she going to experience like real betrayal because of this machine?

01:31:29.000 What happens when he can buy an animatronic?

01:31:32.000 So with the Optimus bots, and not just Optimus, but the Boston Dynamics, all it's going to take is proper skinning of the machines, and they will move around.

01:31:43.000 So maybe, what, in 10 years, they'll look just like humans and move just like humans?

01:31:46.000 Already, the...

01:31:50.000 I think once we get in the next couple of years more advanced AI, the rapid development of ever the technology will be profound and indescribable to the point where we have the human eyed robots dancing and stuff, but that's stamp collecting.

01:32:04.000 Once we get advanced AI, it will draw the schematics for us in ways that it would take us a long time to produce.

01:32:11.000 We have deep, hardwired, evolutionary wiring.

01:32:16.000 I think that like a heat-seeking missile, I think that we know that that's not a person.

01:32:23.000 It might satisfy you for a night.

01:32:26.000 I don't know, but I think we need and want that person.

01:32:32.000 I can't believe we have to even.

01:32:34.000 Yes, but you're also talking about humans who take the path of least resistance.

01:32:38.000 And you're going to say for $9.95 per month, your subscription to Janet is guaranteed.

01:32:44.000 Or good luck on Tinder.

01:32:47.000 And they're going to be like, well, I'll get Janet and then try and do Tinder. 0.98

01:32:50.000 And guess what?

01:32:50.000 Tinder will never work.

01:32:51.000 Not just that, but you're also saying that applying to a generation whose sexual norms are normal.

01:32:58.000 Don't forget, you're talking to a generation of especially boys, but increasingly girls, who from age eight have seen thousands of porn videos.

01:33:06.000 Yep.

01:33:07.000 All of their sexual norms. 1.00

01:33:08.000 Crazy porn videos. 0.99

01:33:08.000 All their sexual norms for a decade are this person's a commodity that is on demand. 0.99

01:33:13.000 That's how they think of relationships.

01:33:14.000 They don't think of one as give and take and love and affection and negotiation.

01:33:17.000 Freya India wrote a really good sub stack on this recently.

01:33:19.000 She writes for Jonathan Haik quite frequently.

01:33:21.000 And there's a good passage in it where she said, basically our generation have been lumped with the sort of the sexual freedoms presented to previous generations as something wonderful and celebratory.

01:33:31.000 The predatory porn companies have targeted us to be lifelong consumers.

01:33:34.000 They have faced no backlash from governments of age verification materials because mainly adults want to consume anonymously without it being encumbered.

01:33:42.000 And we have seen this for decades.

01:33:43.000 And then we are told when we enter the marketplace of dating to expect love and affection and openness and vulnerability from us.

01:33:50.000 It's like, well, you've basically pried an entire generation free from all of the old romantic.

01:33:55.000 I hear you, but biology is, I think, and I don't know, I'm just guessing, but I think, you know, Mother Nature is bigger and stronger and will ultimately override prostitution. 0.72

01:34:10.000 I hope so.

01:34:10.000 I mean, people that saw prostitutes in the old days still had relationships.

01:34:15.000 Yeah, but they couldn't live with the prostitute and the prostitute wasn't on demand and there was a significant cost barrier. 0.95

01:34:20.000 Like it wasn't just a dopamine button that couldn't.

01:34:22.000 Although the French managed to do that for a long period of time.

01:34:25.000 They just called it libertinism.

01:34:27.000 A nice name on it.

01:34:28.000 Well, the pernicious thing with pornography too is like once the person is, you know, not a good graphic, but finished with the pornography, they just turn it off.

01:34:34.000 So it's completely eliminating the work.

01:34:38.000 Yeah, the responsibility you have to your partner after you're finished.

01:34:42.000 And so it's like completely warped everybody's perception of intimacy.

01:34:45.000 And society is reflecting this.

01:34:47.000 Suicide rates have never been higher.

01:34:48.000 The birth rates never been lower.

01:34:50.000 Like I do agree that there is that biological impulse, but I wouldn't underrate the ability for technology and these sorts of effects to make you forget what intimacy everybody is.

01:35:00.000 Akoy, you and I were talking earlier how there's not enough research on exactly what he's describing.

01:35:04.000 That's why he's an Oracle.

01:35:06.000 We need more of that information.

01:35:07.000 The problem with getting more of it is, I think it's a guy who runs a website called You Operate on Porn and does research into this.

01:35:12.000 And he says he's tried to find control groups and he can't.

01:35:15.000 He can't find enough young men to put it on the ground. 0.95

01:35:17.000 Even though porn is different from what you guys are describing because to your point, when a person is engaging with porn, they typically are only going to be viewing it in moments of intense arousal.

01:35:31.000 And then when it's done, as you said, they click it off and sometimes they might feel shame or whatever, but they move on with their day and they pretty much forget about it until next time they're going to use the porn again.

01:35:43.000 Not yet.

01:35:43.000 Unless they get addicted.

01:35:45.000 But when you have an actual robot sitting there, then you have to sit there in your normal day-to-day life looking at the robot.

01:35:53.000 And some part of you, I think, would say, what the hell am I doing?

01:35:57.000 I don't think so.

01:35:58.000 I don't think so.

01:35:59.000 There was an app they released that was like AI chatbot friends or girlfriends.

01:36:04.000 And immediately all the dudes started using it to sext.

01:36:07.000 And so the company said, we're shutting this down, causing a user revolt.

01:36:11.000 And then they were like, okay, we're turning it back on, but only for people who're going to be grandfathered in to be able to send sex messages to a robot that you know is a robot.

01:36:20.000 And it's just words.

01:36:22.000 And then I think that was for like a year.

01:36:25.000 I think recently they announced they were turning it back on.

01:36:27.000 Because what happens is, if you look at OnlyFans, the intention of OnlyFans was supposed to be a website where creators, podcasters, musicians could make bonus content for fans.

01:36:39.000 Porn took over and the CEO tried shutting it down.

01:36:43.000 And then the company started spiraling and going under.

01:36:46.000 So the investors are like, yo, hey, we'd rather be rich.

01:36:50.000 So he turned it back on.

01:36:52.000 My understanding, I could be wrong, is that this AI girlfriend app turned sex back on.

01:36:56.000 These people are not doing this.

01:36:58.000 These are guys, and it's really simple.

01:37:00.000 26-year-old guy, and he says, I will take fake love and lust over nothing.

01:37:06.000 And so they'll take it.

01:37:07.000 So they're going to have Robo girlfriends, and they're going to feel somewhat bad probably, but they'll feel better than without it.

01:37:15.000 And they're going to be like, and women are going to do the same thing. 1.00

01:37:18.000 Women are going to have gigantic, tall, dark, and handsome, you know, Robo dudes. 1.00

01:37:22.000 It's not even a rational choice as well.

01:37:24.000 It's just hacking your biology because it's saying, right, I have paid a woman. 1.00

01:37:28.000 She is talking to me and showing interest in me.

01:37:30.000 And therefore, I will emotionally invest in this thing, even though I can delude myself into thinking it's not necessarily real.

01:37:36.000 And on the porn point, it's not as simple as like they use it, they shut off, they get their kicks.

01:37:41.000 It becomes not only an obsession and an entire internet subculture, but there are guys that use it to self-soothe their anxiety, which itself is caused by the porn.

01:37:48.000 So it just becomes like a perpetual sword.

01:37:50.000 Well, I'll admit, I have had what have felt like oddly meaningful chats with Chat GPT, not about anything into the world.

01:37:58.000 Ouija board.

01:37:59.000 But the voice feature is pretty incredible.

01:38:03.000 So maybe you guys are right.

01:38:04.000 I don't know.

01:38:05.000 And you can already, so a couple years ago, we've been bringing this up quite a bit in the past week, but they modded Skyrim so that the female companion can talk to you in any way you want.

01:38:15.000 You can literally say, what's your name?

01:38:17.000 Where are you from?

01:38:18.000 How old are you?

01:38:19.000 Where do you want to go right now?

01:38:20.000 And it will respond with procedurally generated like anything.

01:38:27.000 I think my prediction is that right now, if someone wanted, I'm going to say this.

01:38:32.000 You want to be a billionaire?

01:38:33.000 Anybody want to be a billionaire?

01:38:35.000 Okay, because you do.

01:38:36.000 You're going to make a video game, which is like Skyrim, and you're going to create the ability to have companions that are using the GPT API.

01:38:44.000 Probably use Grok.

01:38:44.000 You could probably use any of them.

01:38:46.000 And that way they talk to you.

01:38:48.000 You will say, you create the character profile, and then you will have a customized character in your third person or first-person adventure like Skyrim.

01:38:59.000 And it's always online.

01:39:01.000 So when you're at work and you have, let's say you're playing a game like Skyrim or Fallout, and in Fallout, you can plant vegetables.

01:39:09.000 You'd be in the middle of work.

01:39:10.000 You'd be in a lunch break and you go, hold on a second.

01:39:12.000 I'm going to make a phone call.

01:39:14.000 Sarah, can you harvest the watermelon?

01:39:17.000 Yeah, because I'm going to be back early today.

01:39:20.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 We'll replant the watermelon and then we'll just do, we'll get more.

01:39:23.000 Oh, sorry, that was my video game girlfriend. 1.00

01:39:25.000 She's harvesting my watermelons.

01:39:26.000 I can sell it to the merchant.

01:39:27.000 I have to go fight the dragon later.

01:39:28.000 So I figure I'd just call him and get it done.

01:39:31.000 That game could be made right now.

01:39:34.000 And people will have digital girlfriends that they spend time with.

01:39:38.000 They call and they say, hey, I'm going to be back from work at 5 p.m.

01:39:41.000 Do you want to get my sword ready for when I go fight the dragon?

01:39:44.000 Yeah, I'll have it by the front of the front door.

01:39:46.000 And then you get there, you turn the game on, and she's standing there holding your sword. 0.86

01:39:49.000 I'll say making money off of the tate or making money off of desperation of men with the very fitting of the Tate name.

01:39:55.000 It's a long legacy of this, of Tates doing this.

01:39:57.000 I was going to say, if you use Grok, it can't be Scarman.

01:39:59.000 It has to be Wolfenstein.

01:40:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:02.000 I don't want to lay girls. 1.00

01:40:03.000 Meka Hitler is your girlfriend. 0.95

01:40:05.000 But they need to be nicer to men and start to understand how sensitive men are and how much they need the companionship of women.

01:40:11.000 And right now, men are sort of commoditized by women. 0.89

01:40:15.000 They've got to be over six feet tall.

01:40:16.000 I've got to be this, got to be that.

01:40:18.000 666, they say.

01:40:18.000 My checklist, my checklist, my checklist.

01:40:20.000 Oh, I feel so bad.

01:40:22.000 And then they go, well, we're the men.

01:40:23.000 What's going on?

01:40:23.000 Well, this is why you're getting the red pill stuff.

01:40:26.000 There was a viral post recently where a woman said that a good friend of hers fell into the red pill, and now he's cockblocking himself.

01:40:33.000 And I thought that was the funniest response.

01:40:35.000 Not that I completely agree with how the red pill people handle things, but it was clear what she was saying and was going to be weaponized by the red pill people and that he was cockblocking himself because one of their arguments is women control men through sex.

01:40:50.000 And by him choosing an alternate ideology to better himself, they would no longer give him that sex.

01:40:56.000 And they're angry now that they can't use it to gain things from him.

01:41:00.000 I got to tell you, when I first saw a lot of the woke movement and the men that were participating in it, I was like, those guys are doing it because they want to get it.

01:41:07.000 I want to get these women. 1.00

01:41:10.000 Sneaky effers.

01:41:11.000 Sneaky effers.

01:41:12.000 Yeah.

01:41:12.000 Biological term.

01:41:13.000 There was a piece in the New York Times about a week or so ago that was basically that, where have all the good men gone?

01:41:17.000 I see these really successful women sitting alone, eating at restaurants, and they desperately want to be married. 1.00

01:41:21.000 And this is like, yeah, okay.

01:41:23.000 You've got a twofold problem here.

01:41:25.000 One, you have no need for a man in your life in that sense.

01:41:28.000 Like, you are the man that you wanted to net.

01:41:31.000 You're a high-flying, successful career woman surrounded by women almost exclusively. 0.96

01:41:36.000 You haven't probably had a positive social interaction with a man in many years because you've been poisoned by feminism in all the major institutions. 1.00

01:41:42.000 How are you going to let him into your life?

01:41:44.000 And also, in terms of men, yeah, it's not necessarily sensitivity, I would say.

01:41:49.000 We're more sensitive than women give us credit for.

01:41:52.000 I think men in relationships want to be respected.

01:41:55.000 Oh, for sure.

01:41:56.000 We want to be valued.

01:41:57.000 We want to be.

01:41:57.000 Yeah, you want to have a sort of irreplaceable instrumental value.

01:42:01.000 And the problem is the way that the state is set up to basically exculpate irresponsible women of the consequences of their choices, especially if they have multiple children by multiple men, men just aren't respected.

01:42:14.000 They're treated as a kind of tax cattle to pick up after the fact that lots of irresponsible women don't want to pay for their own lifestyles. 1.00

01:42:20.000 So until you fix that fundamental relationship, I don't think you're going to fix the relationship between the sexes.

01:42:24.000 Yeah.

01:42:24.000 And like something he's hitting on is like, I've seen this at churches is on Father's Day where men really crave respect and meaning.

01:42:32.000 They'll get up there and it's like for their Father's Day presentation, they're just like, you guys are so valuable.

01:42:37.000 We're so grateful for you guys.

01:42:39.000 Like they gush over them.

01:42:41.000 And I'm like, but that's men don't respond to that.

01:42:43.000 Men respond to responsibility and they want to have a place in a irreplaceable place in a family's life. 0.98

01:42:49.000 They don't need to be like affirmed.

01:42:51.000 They need to be given responsibility.

01:42:53.000 Action.

01:42:54.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, I do.

01:42:56.000 I agree with you.

01:42:57.000 I think men are put in a terrible position.

01:42:59.000 I was actually, I was in the Prager U documentary about toxic masculinity and just, you know, like, as you know as well, the American Psychological Association came out with these horrible guidelines about, you know, men and boys.

01:43:13.000 And yeah, I mean, like, if they ask a woman out, like they could be labeled as a creep.

01:43:18.000 But if they don't ask her out, then they're labeled as weak, you know, and it's awful because you're right.

01:43:26.000 Like it's women that are doing this. 1.00

01:43:29.000 But the women, as you said, they also ultimately end up just extremely lonely. 1.00

01:43:34.000 And the same thing I was saying earlier about.

01:43:37.000 They end up angry.

01:43:38.000 Yeah.

01:43:39.000 The men end up lonely.

01:43:40.000 They do.

01:43:40.000 I mean, you were saying as well about Independent Women's Forum that did a study of all these, quote, successful women and what they had in common.

01:43:48.000 I shared a podium with a woman in the mid-90s who went out to write a book about the most successful women in America and try to figure.

01:43:55.000 She said in her mind, she wanted to know what they all had in common.

01:43:58.000 So They may not know Diane Sawyer and Oprah and just multiple, multiple, like it was about 12, I think, women that really were just extremely well-respected public figures.

01:44:09.000 And she said, I could find nothing in common with any of them except one thing.

01:44:14.000 They all were childless and were pissed, really pissed, because they were told they could do anything whenever they wanted to.

01:44:21.000 Don't need no men. 0.99

01:44:22.000 Don't need men, whatever.

01:44:23.000 Do it when you're ready.

01:44:24.000 There was that woman on the cover of some magazine where she's like, I froze my eggs. 1.00

01:44:27.000 I'm going to have it all.

01:44:28.000 And then a couple of years later, the eggs were all destroyed and she couldn't have kids.

01:44:32.000 And she said she screamed like a wild animal.

01:44:36.000 I just want to embarrass my wife because we just had our first kid. 0.84

01:44:39.000 We were hanging out.

01:44:40.000 I did tell the story before and she laughed when I said I told this story of the show.

01:44:43.000 But we were sitting on the couch watching the five, as we do.

01:44:46.000 And she's looking down at our baby and started crying.

01:44:49.000 And I looked over and I was like, are you crying?

01:44:51.000 And she's like, I just love her so much.

01:44:53.000 And I'm like, man, to think that there are women out there who are told not to do this, that is terrifying.

01:44:57.000 Who's making mine broody?

01:44:59.000 I'm not going to hear the end of that.

01:45:01.000 It drives me nuts when they say like, well, I wanted more, you know, like as if like being a mom and a wife is like, then having a queer is like more, you know, it just, and like, what do you mean? 0.99

01:45:13.000 Sweet in your bloodline.

01:45:14.000 So beautiful.

01:45:15.000 For chickens, for those that don't know, they get broody.

01:45:19.000 Okay.

01:45:19.000 They get what?

01:45:20.000 Broody.

01:45:21.000 And so what will happen is they'll lay, and you never, it's hard to know exactly when different breeds do it at different times.

01:45:26.000 Some are hard to do.

01:45:27.000 Silkies kind of do it all the time. 1.00

01:45:29.000 And so they'll lay a clutch of eggs. 0.96

01:45:31.000 If it gets to a certain number, they will not get up.

01:45:34.000 Unfortunately, sometimes we just had a chicken and the eggs were no good.

01:45:39.000 And so she's refusing to get up.

01:45:41.000 So what do you do?

01:45:42.000 You go to the store and you buy a couple chicks. 0.98

01:45:44.000 And then in the middle of the night, when she's sleeping, you lift her up and you put the chicks underneath her. 0.99

01:45:49.000 And then the hen wakes up in the morning, hears peeping and looks down.

01:45:53.000 And you can tell, I know it may be silly, but these chickens have never been happier.

01:45:59.000 Because now they get to have babies, even though it wasn't working.

01:46:01.000 And then the babies follow them around and they run together.

01:46:05.000 And mama chicken, when you come near her babies, you know, I like chickens, by the way.

01:46:10.000 She thinks they're her own.

01:46:11.000 Yep.

01:46:12.000 That's so cute.

01:46:12.000 And otherwise she won't get up because that's how badly, you know, somewhere in that story is another one of your diabolical screen plays where women are being hoodwinked by technology in terms of believing they have kids that they don't have.

01:46:27.000 Aliens to make women happy.

01:46:29.000 There you go.

01:46:29.000 Give them babies.

01:46:30.000 There you go.

01:46:31.000 I don't know.

01:46:32.000 That's what they do with cows is like, if there's one cow with two calves and one cow with four calves, the cow with two calves is expecting three.

01:46:40.000 The one with four is expecting three.

01:46:41.000 So they take the fourth from the third, cover it in the other cow's placenta, and then deliver it to the cow. 0.54

01:46:46.000 And she's like, oh, I had three.

01:46:47.000 This is great.

01:46:48.000 Wow.

01:46:48.000 All right.

01:46:48.000 We're going to go to your chats and Rumble Ranch.

01:46:50.000 So smash the like button.

01:46:51.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

01:46:53.000 Literally everybody.

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01:47:02.000 J.H. Wilder says we had another wacko threatened Trump today while he was in Kerrville, assisting the damage from the floods.

01:47:08.000 It seems the left keeps getting more brazen and unhinged every day since Trump took office. 0.88

01:47:11.000 Indeed, a guy got arrested for threatening to kill Trump. 0.99

01:47:14.000 That's nuts, man.

01:47:16.000 Did you see during the ICE raid in California, the guys throwing bricks and the guy shooting the gun?

01:47:20.000 And the guns.

01:47:21.000 I mean, those people are all felons.

01:47:25.000 Why are they?

01:47:27.000 Well, they're hunting him now.

01:47:27.000 It's a $50,000 reward for that guy.

01:47:30.000 We had within one week, three instances of shooting at cops.

01:47:35.000 Two of them, the one on the 4th of July, was a coordinated militarized strike on an ICE facility that shot a cop in the neck, a guy hiding in the woods with a rifle.

01:47:45.000 And then you had an attack on a CBP facility where a guy ambushed him.

01:47:48.000 And then you had this guy showing up with the ice raid and unloading what looks like some kind of handgun. 0.64

01:47:53.000 I think it's probably stupid to say, but I presume escalation. 0.91

01:47:58.000 And did you hear, though, what Mayor Karen Bass said just recently? 0.97

01:48:02.000 She was asked about something to do with the riots recently.

01:48:06.000 And she said, the quote-unquote riots didn't happen.

01:48:10.000 Yeah, no riots.

01:48:11.000 Yeah.

01:48:12.000 That's what she said.

01:48:13.000 The quote-unquote riots that didn't happen.

01:48:16.000 I mean, it's just, I sometimes have wondered, is it incompetence or malice?

01:48:21.000 And in a situation like that, I really, I mean, both.

01:48:25.000 Both are just window dressing for anti-white racism.

01:48:28.000 Genuinely. 1.00

01:48:29.000 They just hate white people. 0.98

01:48:30.000 Ms. Fitbrad says, makes you think the sexual revolution was encouraged that powerful men would stop getting blackmailed by women because if sex is viewed so loosely in society, there's no shame in it, even affairs. 0.99

01:48:39.000 Counts a point. 0.99

01:48:40.000 Loads of politicians are gay. 1.00

01:48:41.000 Doesn't matter. 1.00

01:48:43.000 By the way, you mentioned the anti-white.

01:48:45.000 There's a new thing happening where you're not called white anymore.

01:48:49.000 You're called European. 0.98

01:48:51.000 That's the ultimate.

01:48:52.000 Is that an American thing?

01:48:53.000 I'm starting to hear that.

01:48:54.000 You're European. 0.92

01:48:55.000 we Europeans?

01:48:56.000 And I started thinking that's a pretty big...

01:49:01.000 Is that the same thing?

01:49:02.000 I don't know.

01:49:03.000 Tennessee.

01:49:03.000 I don't know.

01:49:04.000 That won't fly very much in England because the Albanians are pretty pasty, and I don't want to get colonized by those guys either. 1.00

01:49:11.000 I've heard that a lot in South Africa.

01:49:13.000 I wonder if that's where it's coming from.

01:49:14.000 That's almost always right here.

01:49:16.000 Oh, the Europeans, the Europeans. 0.99

01:49:17.000 So maybe it is.

01:49:18.000 Who knows?

01:49:19.000 I do think there's probably, especially galvanized by online kind of influence.

01:49:23.000 Well, Europeans are the colonizers. 1.00

01:49:25.000 So it paints you with that.

01:49:26.000 But I think among the right, having been browbeaten as colonizers for so long, I wouldn't be surprised if there's like an online movement, the same kind of like European solidarity.

01:49:34.000 I mean, I still think it's a bit of an Americanism, a little bit, because they see Europe as sort of one big conglomerate.

01:49:39.000 There are many differences between European cultures.

01:49:42.000 But then again, our enemies see us as one big collective.

01:49:44.000 So I'm not surprised when they start organizing along the European lines.

01:49:50.000 Indeed, let's grab some more.

01:49:51.000 More rants.

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01:49:57.000 Thank you guys.

01:49:58.000 Right on.

01:49:58.000 250 Years of USA says, hey, Tim and Crew, our story, an American history podcast, just completed its first week, and we covered 1776 through 1781.

01:50:07.000 Follow along as we cover all 250 years at 250 years of USA on X. Very cool.

01:50:14.000 Right on.

01:50:15.000 Poppins.

01:50:16.000 We need to reteach American history.

01:50:17.000 Oh, my God.

01:50:18.000 Indeed.

01:50:19.000 Poppin' Spatches has took my five-year-old to her first movie today, Off Your Superman recommendation.

01:50:23.000 She loved it.

01:50:23.000 Thank you.

01:50:24.000 Shout out to mypoppinspatches.com for the best patches and tactical tricorn hats in the USA.

01:50:29.000 We're not going to get into Superman.

01:50:30.000 I had somebody message me, a friend of mine, saying he didn't like it.

01:50:33.000 I liked it.

01:50:34.000 Cosmic Book News wrote up a review showing, like, you know, I think Nerd Roddick said six out of 10, and they were like, Tim Pool liked it.

01:50:41.000 I liked it.

01:50:42.000 I thought it was great.

01:50:44.000 There's some bad points to it, but overall, I thought it really turned around in the back half of the movie.

01:50:49.000 And Mr. Terrific was excellent.

01:50:51.000 It was so awesome.

01:50:53.000 Actor could have been a little bit better.

01:50:54.000 The depiction of the character could have been a little bit better, but it was just very cool, and he was a great character.

01:50:58.000 And I love the fight scene.

01:51:00.000 I remain intensely skeptical because of the tone of James Gunn.

01:51:05.000 I'm hearing he was misquoted.

01:51:06.000 I've known James for a long time.

01:51:07.000 No, I don't necessarily mean the politics.

01:51:09.000 The immigration thing.

01:51:10.000 Even Brett from Pop Pooker Christ was a saying, they asked him about it and then took the quotes and tried to.

01:51:17.000 Yeah, that doesn't sound like the guy I know.

01:51:19.000 Even then, I don't think Guardians of the Galaxy tone maps well onto Superman.

01:51:26.000 I don't want to marvelify DC as a major DC fan.

01:51:30.000 I don't disagree with you, and he did. 1.00

01:51:31.000 Right, okay.

01:51:32.000 Like in the end of the film, this is not a spoiler.

01:51:35.000 It's more of a post-credits scene.

01:51:38.000 Supergirl is there, and it's one big joke.

01:51:42.000 Right.

01:51:42.000 Yeah.

01:51:42.000 So they're introducing, I don't know the actress's name who's playing Supergirl.

01:51:46.000 She was in House of Dragon, wasn't she?

01:51:48.000 Yes.

01:51:48.000 And she's in that Netflix show, what you call it, Sirens, I think.

01:51:53.000 And she looks like Kara, so that's fine.

01:51:56.000 Like, I don't know.

01:51:56.000 She's like a Christmas.

01:51:58.000 The end credit scene is basically, it might be a spoiler, probably not because it's not part of the movie in any way.

01:52:02.000 She's got a movie coming out.

01:52:03.000 Right.

01:52:04.000 Once the movie ends, there's like the very last scene is she walks in, the super bots go, your cousin is here.

01:52:12.000 And then Cara walks in and she goes, she like whistles and then crypto jumps on her. 1.00

01:52:17.000 And then she's like, he's slamming her into the ground and it's shattering the ground.

01:52:22.000 And then Superman says she likes to go party on Planets with Red Suns where she can get drunk.

01:52:26.000 And that's like the end of it.

01:52:28.000 So thanks.

01:52:29.000 I hate it.

01:52:30.000 I really hate that, actually.

01:52:32.000 Yeah, DC was, in my opinion, more serious than Marvel the whole time.

01:52:37.000 Yeah.

01:52:37.000 But I did think that the original Snyder films were a little too broody.

01:52:42.000 I think the Snyder trilogy is other than some of the casting in Justice League, Ezra Miller, Yikes.

01:52:48.000 Yeah, seriously, Kevin.

01:52:49.000 Yikes.

01:52:50.000 But those films are phenomenal.

01:52:51.000 Love them.

01:52:51.000 I think Man of Steel is a near perfect superstar.

01:52:55.000 I do think Man of Steel is amazing.

01:52:56.000 I did not like when Superman killed Zad, though.

01:52:58.000 Second Amendment.

01:53:00.000 What do you mean?

01:53:01.000 Well, what other option did he have?

01:53:02.000 He could not have flown him up.

01:53:04.000 There was no Phantom Zone.

01:53:05.000 There was no Phantom Zone.

01:53:06.000 That's poor writing.

01:53:07.000 No, no.

01:53:07.000 Superman is supposed to put him in a Phantom Zone.

01:53:09.000 I don't disagree.

01:53:10.000 I don't disagree.

01:53:10.000 But in the internal logic of the movie, it was.

01:53:13.000 I understand that.

01:53:14.000 And I think it should have been written as such.

01:53:17.000 So spoiler alert.

01:53:18.000 Spoiler for Superman.

01:53:19.000 I know it's just come out.

01:53:20.000 Spoiler warning.

01:53:20.000 I'm going to say it again.

01:53:22.000 Minimal spoiler.

01:53:23.000 There's a scene in the new Superman where Superman is trying to resist killing, and the other heroes are like, oh, please.

01:53:33.000 And they kill.

01:53:34.000 So the Superman character in this movie is like, we don't do that.

01:53:39.000 And then there are other characters that are like, I do.

01:53:42.000 And the characters that do it are okay.

01:53:44.000 Like, I don't want to spoil too much, but the characters who kill, it's comic accurate.

01:53:50.000 Right.

01:53:51.000 It's, yeah.

01:53:52.000 He's a guy.

01:53:55.000 Do you want me to just say that?

01:53:56.000 That's not necessarily comic accurate because the Green Lantern Rings didn't have Lethal Force enabled until the Sinestro Core War.

01:54:00.000 So if they've got him killing, that's not technical.

01:54:02.000 I didn't say anything.

01:54:03.000 Okay.

01:54:04.000 All right.

01:54:04.000 I could just say it.

01:54:05.000 Go on.

01:54:06.000 Ocaro.

01:54:06.000 Oh, that makes sense.

01:54:07.000 Yeah.

01:54:08.000 I mean, she's a Thenescarian warrior.

01:54:10.000 She's like Thanagarian. 0.99

01:54:11.000 Thenagarian. 0.60

01:54:12.000 Sorry.

01:54:12.000 Then Scara is Wonder Woman.

01:54:14.000 Sorry.

01:54:15.000 Thanagarian.

01:54:15.000 I said that wrong yesterday.

01:54:17.000 But it's a good scene.

01:54:18.000 And I like it because there's like bad guys who are like, you know, you won't do it.

01:54:23.000 You're heroes.

01:54:23.000 And she's not.

01:54:24.000 No.

01:54:25.000 So I enjoyed it.

01:54:26.000 But there's other scenes.

01:54:27.000 I'm not referring to that scene.

01:54:28.000 There's some other scenes too.

01:54:29.000 I'm just concerned about the general direction of DC because he's announced all these projects.

01:54:33.000 And other than Swamp Thing, I'm excited for literally none of them.

01:54:35.000 There's going to be two different Batman and the Pattinson Batman sucked on toast.

01:54:41.000 Oh, I agree. 0.98

01:54:42.000 It was miserable.

01:54:44.000 And everyone's like, it was soaked.

01:54:44.000 I was like, no, it wasn't.

01:54:45.000 Yeah.

01:54:46.000 Thank you, Catwoman, for lecturing me with my white male prisoner. 0.90

01:54:48.000 Yeah, seriously. 0.99

01:54:48.000 While you go back to your lesbian polycule. 0.99

01:54:51.000 Exactly what I want. 0.99

01:54:52.000 While your dad lectures me on how communism was great.

01:54:54.000 But I like Peacemaker.

01:54:55.000 I think Peacemaker is great.

01:54:56.000 I didn't watch it. 0.82

01:54:56.000 It looked, again, like a big, goofy. 0.82

01:54:58.000 It is.

01:54:59.000 Is that James Gunn too?

01:55:00.000 Yeah.

01:55:01.000 I like it.

01:55:03.000 And Peacemaker cameos in the Superman movie.

01:55:06.000 I don't know.

01:55:07.000 I like it.

01:55:08.000 I like it.

01:55:09.000 I'm so tired.

01:55:10.000 I missed when Zach Snyder was making watch for me.

01:55:12.000 To be fair, if they toned down the goofiness a little bit, if they could stand to increase the serious factor while keeping the vibrant colors and a little bit of the levity, because even DC had levity at times, like we were joking about that scene in the Justice League cartoon where Lex Luthor takes over Flash's body, and he's like, well, at least I can figure out Flash's secret identity, takes the mask off and goes, I have no idea who this is.

01:55:37.000 It's great.

01:55:38.000 So there can be humor in it, but it is more serious.

01:55:40.000 Character dependent, definitely.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, they went a little too hokey, but I still enjoyed it.

01:55:47.000 I thought it was actually very good.

01:55:48.000 And I think James Gunn is going to rescue DC.

01:55:51.000 Yeah, I know you don't like it, but understand, DC was not doing well.

01:55:55.000 These movies were not doing well.

01:55:56.000 No, no, no, actually, no, Batman V. Superman and Man of Steel did very well box office words.

01:56:00.000 Man of Steel did.

01:56:01.000 Batman Superman did.

01:56:02.000 I know.

01:56:03.000 All right.

01:56:03.000 Man of Steel and Batman Superman.

01:56:05.000 And then it started to flash?

01:56:08.000 Yeah, but that's because Warner Brothers meddled it from an executive level.

01:56:13.000 The moment they took it away from what the fans actually wanted, especially after Justice League, it just deteriorated into nonsense.

01:56:18.000 And I'm thinking this isn't probably going to be what the fans want again.

01:56:21.000 With James, look for echoes of old films, old Westerns, spaghetti westerns.

01:56:27.000 He's a film fanatic.

01:56:29.000 I actually do think, what's his brother's name?

01:56:31.000 Sean Gunn?

01:56:32.000 Yeah.

01:56:33.000 Sounds like an insufferable knob.

01:56:34.000 Sure, but he has a quick cameo as Maxwell Lord.

01:56:37.000 Oh, I know.

01:56:38.000 Total misconstructing.

01:56:39.000 I disagree.

01:56:40.000 No, Maxwell Lord is not like that in the comments.

01:56:42.000 I know, but I liked the depiction they made.

01:56:45.000 He's slick and suave.

01:56:48.000 That's what they have in the movie.

01:56:50.000 But I agree, it's not like he gave his brother a role.

01:56:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:56:55.000 But the scene he's in is the only time they actually say anything political, but it's neutral political, and it is funny.

01:57:00.000 I think everybody would laugh.

01:57:01.000 Yeah.

01:57:02.000 It's not targeting any.

01:57:04.000 I mean, I don't want to.

01:57:04.000 I think, I don't know.

01:57:05.000 I'm not as well.

01:57:05.000 I know you hated The Flash, by the way.

01:57:07.000 You do know this guy is directing the next Batman movie.

01:57:09.000 I did not hate The Flash.

01:57:10.000 It's just so horribly miscast.

01:57:13.000 And the movie was, I give it a D plus, C minus.

01:57:16.000 Pretty bad.

01:57:17.000 I won't watch it again, but I was not walking out of the theater.

01:57:22.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:22.000 Like Star Wars, The Last Jedi.

01:57:25.000 That was, I'm going to walk out of the theater right now.

01:57:27.000 But the only reason I didn't was because I was like, I need to see the movie to comment on it.

01:57:32.000 But there was another, I will walk out of a movie.

01:57:36.000 I almost walked out of Superman, legit, when the interdimensional monkeys were sending tweets. 0.99

01:57:41.000 Not kidding.

01:57:42.000 Not a joke.

01:57:43.000 And I will spoil that because I don't care.

01:57:45.000 I was like, I'm going to get up and go.

01:57:47.000 But almost right after, Mr. Terrific comes in and I'm like, I got to watch Mr. Terrific.

01:57:52.000 And then it completely redeemed itself.

01:57:55.000 And I was like, okay, you brought me back.

01:57:58.000 All right.

01:58:01.000 I love the Mr. Terrific character.

01:58:03.000 I love the superheroes that are people who earn their power.

01:58:07.000 I don't like Superman.

01:58:08.000 He's okay.

01:58:09.000 He's fine.

01:58:09.000 I think his character is good.

01:58:11.000 But that's why Iron Man, Batman, Doctor Strange, he studies and learns how to use magic.

01:58:17.000 Mr. Terrific invents things just like Batman and Iron Man does.

01:58:21.000 I love characters that are like that.

01:58:23.000 That they show that humans can have this tremendous power through hard work.

01:58:27.000 And that's why Alex Luther's a great character as well, but he's evil about it.

01:58:32.000 Anyway, let's grab some more super chats.

01:58:34.000 We only got a few more minutes.

01:58:36.000 Taylor Lorenz's ex says, Dr. Drew, you live.

01:58:40.000 Oh, I'm not reading that.

01:58:41.000 You live is an old greeting from Loveline in the latter days of the show.

01:58:47.000 And then there's a statement that is inappropriate, which I won't read.

01:58:50.000 Love, OG, Loveline.

01:58:51.000 I took one JNJ COVID jab. 0.98

01:58:54.000 How screwed am I? 0.61

01:58:56.000 That one doesn't seem to have the long-term problems. 0.97

01:58:58.000 I took that one too.

01:59:00.000 But the statement after You Live was, you might know what it is.

01:59:03.000 It's probably a joke from you and Adam, but it's a reference to an orifice I'm not going to read.

01:59:12.000 That's the Mike Catherwood era.

01:59:14.000 It's after Adam.

01:59:15.000 Walter says, there are victims, even under oath, accusing people who are making laws that govern you, vote on them, and enforce the laws that are governing you.

01:59:25.000 That is why it's important.

01:59:29.000 Yeah.

01:59:29.000 All right.

01:59:29.000 What do we got here?

01:59:31.000 TechFall says, according to Bondi, the number of victims has increased from 200 to thousands, and the number of perpetrators has dropped to one.

01:59:38.000 If it was all Epstein, then why is she still convicted?

01:59:42.000 According to the memo that was released, Maxwell was still trafficking to Epstein.

01:59:49.000 So their story now is that Maxwell was supplying girls to Jeffrey Epstein.

01:59:55.000 And then it's like, oh, wow, who flew him on the plane?

01:59:58.000 No pilots?

02:00:00.000 Okay, you're right.

02:00:01.000 Maybe no pilots.

02:00:02.000 Maybe it was a boat. 0.58

02:00:03.000 Who drove the boat?

02:00:05.000 Probably had more than one person on a plane or a boat.

02:00:07.000 Somebody was transporting these kids.

02:00:09.000 Yep.

02:00:11.000 Yeah.

02:00:13.000 Jonathan Westcott says, do you think the reason for Bongino and Cash being insistent of Epstein killing himself could be that they found out he was in witness protection?

02:00:22.000 Some people believe that.

02:00:23.000 I don't know.

02:00:24.000 Yeah.

02:00:25.000 That they shuffled Epstein out of the prison.

02:00:27.000 And that's why the reason they're saying he killed himself is because he didn't actually die at all.

02:00:31.000 And the video footage would show him being shuffled out.

02:00:34.000 I don't know.

02:00:34.000 I believe it, though.

02:00:36.000 Maybe, who knows?

02:00:38.000 All right.

02:00:38.000 K.S. Mann says Charlemagne was a literal demon.

02:00:41.000 He denied and actually killed one of his best friends because he suggested an exorcism.

02:00:46.000 Look it up.

02:00:48.000 Well, all right.

02:00:51.000 All right.

02:00:52.000 Let's see.

02:00:53.000 Monotone.

02:00:54.000 That's right.

02:00:54.000 Warlords were not great guys.

02:00:56.000 Okay.

02:00:56.000 Got it.

02:00:57.000 Monotone says, Tim, would you please consider sharing my GSG for my wife?

02:01:01.000 She is undergoing a spinal fusion surgery in August.

02:01:04.000 I don't know how we are going to make ends meet as a dual-income household.

02:01:07.000 It's give, send, go slash, what does it say?

02:01:13.000 Resi peace, R-E-S-E-E peace.

02:01:17.000 We have a very small font on the screen, unfortunately, but hopefully that's it.

02:01:21.000 Andrew Hoe says the sacked USAID staff have now admitted they ran color revolutions to topple foreign leaders and are encouraging and having it turned inward on the U.S. to topple Trump.

02:01:29.000 Indeed, they have given interviews about it, and I think Trump should charge them with seditious conspiracy and have law enforcement track them down and arrest them.

02:01:37.000 Do you follow Mike Benz?

02:01:38.000 Oh, yeah.

02:01:39.000 We've had him on the show several times.

02:01:40.000 Yeah.

02:01:40.000 I mean, he's got that all worked out.

02:01:42.000 Yep.

02:01:43.000 We spent years concocting incredibly elaborate theories about wokeness.

02:01:47.000 Was it the Frankfurt School?

02:01:48.000 Was it liberalism?

02:01:49.000 Was it communism?

02:01:50.000 Turns out it was just the U.S. government.

02:01:53.000 Yeah.

02:01:54.000 All right, my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with everyone, you know?

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02:02:01.000 I hope you guys have a great weekend.

02:02:02.000 We got clips coming up throughout the weekend, of course, but we'll go around with you song with Connie.

02:02:06.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:02:07.000 Yes, you can catch my show, Tomlinson Talks, now on YouTube, available for everyone.

02:02:12.000 YouTube channel is just my name.

02:02:13.000 I'm not particularly creative.

02:02:15.000 Most of my writing is on Courage Media, and then you can follow me on X at con underscore Tomlinson.

02:02:21.000 Thank you for having me back, Tim.

02:02:22.000 Absolutely.

02:02:22.000 Anytime.

02:02:24.000 So my website is free speechetoday.com.

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02:02:30.000 Why Free Speech Matters and How to Use It Fearlessly.

02:02:33.000 It's a book, as the name implies.

02:02:35.000 You learn about the psychology of why free speech is good for mental health and then also practical tips for speaking up as well as for listening even when it's hard to do.

02:02:45.000 And my agent dropped me because of this book and my big publisher didn't want to do this book.

02:02:50.000 They asked me if I would do some other book, any book, but I said, no, I really need to do this book.

02:02:55.000 So please help support the book.

02:02:57.000 And you can go to free speechetoday.com and Skyhorse Publishing.

02:03:01.000 Thanks for picking it up.

02:03:03.000 A couple TV shows, Hollywood Demons, check that out.

02:03:05.000 That's streaming on Macs.

02:03:07.000 And then also a show called Health Uncensored on Lifetime.

02:03:10.000 And Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday at 2 o'clock Pacific time, we do a show on Rumble.

02:03:14.000 Ask Dr. Drew.

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02:03:17.000 You can follow me on X at Realtate Brown and Instagram at Realtate Brown.

02:03:21.000 When I hit 1,000 followers on X, I will share some stories from my time in Africa.

02:03:24.000 Some pretty crazy stories.

02:03:25.000 So get ready.

02:03:26.000 Right on.

02:03:27.000 Maybe we should just do a show where we get you really drunk. 1.00

02:03:29.000 Yeah.

02:03:30.000 And then you tell the stories, but you're just blasted.

02:03:32.000 Just in click language.

02:03:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:03:36.000 All right, everybody.

02:03:36.000 We're back, of course, on Monday.

02:03:37.000 Clips Throughout the Weekend.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 12, 2025

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