Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Dan Bongino To RESIGN, Trump Addresses The Nation

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00:05:39.000 So we're going to start off with from the New York Post, Dan Bongino to leave the FBI deputy director job with rumored replacement waiting in the wings.

00:05:50.000 FBI Director Dan Bongino will resign his position with less than a year on the job after reportedly packing up his belongings and bidding adieu to his team.

00:05:58.000 I will be leaving my position with the FBI in January, Bongino announced on social media Wednesday night.

00:06:04.000 I want to thank President Trump, A.G. Bondi, and Director Patel for the opportunity to serve with purpose.

00:06:09.000 Most importantly, I want to thank you, my fellow Americans, for the privilege to serve you.

00:06:14.000 God bless America and all those who defend her.

00:06:16.000 The announcement caps a day of speculation on when Bongino would leave, with four sources telling the Post that Bongino's departure was expected soon.

00:06:26.000 So I actually made a remark about this last night.

00:06:28.000 I didn't think he was going to do it, but I got that one wrong.

00:06:30.000 So full accountability here.

00:06:33.000 But what do you guys think?

00:06:34.000 Do you think that this is going to be a significant hindrance for the FBI or what?

00:06:39.000 It could be a hindrance, but let me just start with Dan Bongino.

00:06:42.000 This is a guy who spread stories and conspiracy theories.

00:06:45.000 The Epstein files is something that he talked about in his podcast pretty much every single day.

00:06:50.000 And now all of a sudden, there's nothing to see.

00:06:52.000 Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.

00:06:55.000 And I think the rumors of him getting into it with Bondi were absolutely true.

00:07:00.000 He knows exactly what's in the Epstein files now.

00:07:02.000 And I think a lot of his listeners are probably pretty upset at him.

00:07:06.000 He was spewing this stuff every single day.

00:07:08.000 So the way that you say that makes me think that you have a disagreement.

00:07:12.000 Do you think that there's something in the Epstein file?

00:07:14.000 100%.

00:07:15.000 So go ahead and agree on that.

00:07:17.000 Well, why do you think Donald Trump doesn't want to talk about it? 1.00

00:07:20.000 If anybody, even his supporters bring up the Epstein files, he calls them stupid. 0.99

00:07:24.000 Clearly, he has something to hide. 0.98

00:07:26.000 It's the same reason why he didn't want to release his tax returns.

00:07:29.000 It's the same reason why they're not releasing his medical records from the MRI.

00:07:32.000 The reason why he doesn't want to talk about this stuff or release it publicly is because he has something to hide.

00:07:39.000 Donald Trump was best friends with Jeffrey Epstein, according to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:07:42.000 They're seen all over the place hanging out with each other.

00:07:46.000 We know that he was on the Epstein flight log at least seven times.

00:07:48.000 And then Jack Bosobic and others, to no fault of their own, by the way, were holding these binders up because of Pam Bondi, who claimed that it was on her desk.

00:07:58.000 I believe Dan Bongino knows the truth.

00:08:00.000 And let me ask you guys a question.

00:08:01.000 So would you, well, before we do, would you want to venture a guess as to what it is that's in there that you think Donald Trump is hiding?

00:08:07.000 I don't know if he broke the law, but certainly he's in the Epstein files.

00:08:11.000 You sound pretty passionate about it. 0.93

00:08:13.000 Well, I am passionate about young children that get raped. 0.96

00:08:16.000 So then you're implying that Donald Trump did not. 0.96

00:08:19.000 What I am implying is that Donald Trump is all over the Epstein files, and so many of his supporters were talking about the rich elitists in Hollywood and all the lefty pedophiles.

00:08:28.000 Fine, so be it.

00:08:29.000 If Bill Clinton is in there, that's totally fine.

00:08:31.000 But the difference between Republicans and Democrats, many of them today, is most Democrats say, hey, if Bill Clinton's in there, if they're Democrats in there, fine.

00:08:39.000 Release the files.

00:08:40.000 And Donald Trump wants this story to go away.

00:08:42.000 Guess what?

00:08:43.000 It's not going away.

00:08:44.000 We'll see what happens on Friday.

00:08:45.000 But yes, I think Donald Trump is all over the files.

00:08:49.000 So again, saying all over the file.

00:08:51.000 His name is all over in the files.

00:08:53.000 But you're saying that, I mean, it sounds like you're implying something.

00:08:56.000 Do you have an opinion as to what it is?

00:08:58.000 I don't know.

00:08:59.000 I don't know whether he broke the law or not.

00:09:02.000 My opinion goes the same as I just said.

00:09:05.000 There's a reason why he doesn't want the files released.

00:09:07.000 Clearly, he doesn't.

00:09:08.000 So you don't think that the Biden administration would have taken a look at these and said something if there was something in there when they were in the middle of the day?

00:09:17.000 A couple things I'd say there.

00:09:18.000 First of all, number one, if Joe Biden did do that, he would be equally was wrong.

00:09:22.000 Now, I don't think Joe Biden was best friends with Jeffrey Harris.

00:09:24.000 No, no, no.

00:09:24.000 I mean, if Joe Biden hadn't, Joe Biden's, you know, DOJ had the paperwork, right?

00:09:29.000 If the Trump administration has it, then that means that the Biden administration had it.

00:09:33.000 Absolutely.

00:09:33.000 So you don't think that if there was something that Donald Trump had done that was illegal, you don't think they would have put it out?

00:09:38.000 I think there is certainly a possibility, and I don't know this to be true or not, that maybe they were protecting lefties that are in there as well.

00:09:44.000 That could be very possible.

00:09:46.000 I also can tell you that the Maxwell trial was going on during that, and they were sealed for years.

00:09:51.000 I agree.

00:09:52.000 I agree.

00:09:52.000 A portion of it was sealed.

00:09:54.000 See, I worry about today, and yes, I wish the files were released a very long time ago.

00:09:59.000 I don't care whether they're Democrats or Republicans in there.

00:10:02.000 The problem is Joe Biden didn't campaign on the Epstein files.

00:10:05.000 His supporters weren't talking about that.

00:10:07.000 Donald Trump actually didn't campaign on the paper.

00:10:09.000 His followers were.

00:10:10.000 His followers are not.

00:10:11.000 Followers are not him.

00:10:12.000 Look at what Pamana did.

00:10:13.000 So, no, but you said that he campaigned on these.

00:10:16.000 And he didn't campaign on them.

00:10:19.000 His followers are not him.

00:10:20.000 So he didn't campaign on this.

00:10:22.000 In fact, the only time that I recall it being mentioned, he walked it back.

00:10:25.000 So why do you think he walked it back?

00:10:27.000 And why do you think?

00:10:28.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:10:29.000 Why are they treating Maxwell, VIP service, unprecedented, 20-year sentence?

00:10:34.000 Why are they giving one of the biggest sex traffickers in this country preferential treatment, a dog?

00:10:40.000 They let visitors eat snacks.

00:10:41.000 They give them a laptop.

00:10:43.000 I don't know.

00:10:43.000 I don't know why.

00:10:44.000 Give me a logical reason.

00:10:45.000 I don't know why.

00:10:47.000 Well, I don't.

00:10:48.000 I don't know.

00:10:49.000 I can't give one logical reason why Maxwell has been treated by the Trump administration the way.

00:10:54.000 Like I said, I don't know why, but the fact of the matter is, I'm not the one that's emotive about this and throwing around accusations.

00:11:02.000 Hold on, wait, hold on.

00:11:02.000 No, you can't be like, I'm not the one.

00:11:04.000 Absolutely, I can't.

00:11:06.000 What are you thinking is happening over there with Geele?

00:11:08.000 I have no idea.

00:11:10.000 Educated assumption.

00:11:11.000 I have no idea.

00:11:12.000 You can't give us an educated guess on why you think they're treating Maxwell with it.

00:11:17.000 I'm sure you're more than welcome to.

00:11:19.000 Maybe they're giving her preferential treatment. 1.00

00:11:21.000 By the way, unprecedented preferential treatment.

00:11:24.000 Maybe because they're protecting Donald Trump.

00:11:27.000 I think that's the only logical conclusion that most people would come up with.

00:11:31.000 Why else would they do this?

00:11:32.000 I've heard.

00:11:33.000 Well, I mean, so there's talk about the possibility that Donald Trump worked with the FBI, so maybe they would be protecting the FBI.

00:11:39.000 Okay, well, I haven't heard that.

00:11:41.000 Some people think that Donald Trump flipped on Epstein and started, became an informant for the FBI.

00:11:45.000 But think about so much.

00:11:46.000 If that's the case, then they're just protecting the story.

00:11:48.000 They've treated Maxwell like a VIP.

00:11:51.000 Donald Trump doesn't want anybody to talk about it.

00:11:53.000 In fact, if a reporter even brings it up, he will call that reporter names.

00:11:57.000 Well, he's talked about it multiple times.

00:11:59.000 He said that he wants to see the files released, and there's been judges that have intimidated that.

00:12:03.000 First of all, if he wanted the files released, he wouldn't need a judge to sign off on it.

00:12:08.000 Tomorrow, he could release the files if he wanted to.

00:12:10.000 So that's complete B. He's called for the AG to do it, right?

00:12:14.000 Has he not?

00:12:15.000 He could just simply release the files tomorrow if he wanted to, without a judge's decision, legally.

00:12:20.000 If he wanted to release all the files and redact all the victims names.

00:12:22.000 He specifically said that he wanted them to do it.

00:12:24.000 Then why wouldn't he do it though?

00:12:26.000 As far as I understand, he said that he wants to do it.

00:12:29.000 What he says is I assume that he doesn't have the files on his desk.

00:12:31.000 Do you believe him when he says things like that?

00:12:33.000 I don't know.

00:12:35.000 I think that Donald Trump, honestly, I think that he's probably trying to protect himself because his name is in the ⁇ but I'm not emotive about it because I don't think that he's done anything illegal.

00:12:47.000 What do you guys, you talked about Bongino earlier?

00:12:48.000 I think, and you mentioned Trump's kind of administration choices had campaigned or talked about the Epstein as part of their messaging.

00:12:54.000 Epstein talked about that.

00:12:55.000 He emailed a lot when he had his podcast.

00:12:57.000 Bongino?

00:12:58.000 Bongino?

00:12:58.000 Yeah.

00:13:00.000 You mentioned how angry his audience has become, and I think you're right because he's been in the government with like this gag system.

00:13:06.000 Do you remember he wouldn't go to work?

00:13:07.000 Do you remember that day, you guys, when he took a day off and apparently him, Pam Bondi, and Kash Patel got into it, and then he didn't show up the next day?

00:13:16.000 Listen, here's what it comes down to.

00:13:17.000 Kash Patel, under oath, was asked seven times by Eric Swalwell, did you tell Pam Bondi that Trump is in the Epstein files?

00:13:24.000 He would not answer the question.

00:13:26.000 If he wasn't in the files, Kash Patel would have answered that question.

00:13:29.000 It doesn't take a smart person to realize that he didn't want to answer it because the answer is yes.

00:13:34.000 So this being in the files might make him more of a hero if he turned on Epstein and aided the FBI and it would uncover a bunch of other FBI like undercover that are breaking child packages.

00:13:43.000 And also the question about what is in the files, there's a lot of people that have different ideas about what the Epstein files even are.

00:13:52.000 So if there's the question about what is it just the plane logs?

00:13:56.000 Because obviously everyone knows Donald Trump was in that, right?

00:13:58.000 He's used Epstein's planes.

00:14:00.000 I don't know that he's gone to the island, right?

00:14:02.000 No, I don't know that either.

00:14:03.000 But listen, he was best friends with Jeffrey Epstein for a long time.

00:14:06.000 Allegedly, he was upset because Jeffrey Epstein— Well, that was 20 years—it was over 20 years ago that he booted him out of the blood.

00:14:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't care if it was 20 years ago or 50 years ago.

00:14:14.000 I think you are who you hang out with sometimes. 1.00

00:14:16.000 And in this situation, well, listen, we all know that Donald Trump is a pig. 0.99

00:14:20.000 That's not against the law. 1.00

00:14:21.000 We all know he bragged about grabbing women by the genitals. 0.99

00:14:24.000 We all know that he's a womanizer who had unprotected sex with a porn star two weeks after Barron was born. 0.99

00:14:29.000 We know that's not against the law. 0.99

00:14:31.000 But this is at another level here.

00:14:34.000 And I'll tell you some people that were – Well, no, if you're saying that that's not against the law and then you're saying that it's at another level, you're implying that he's broken the law.

00:14:40.000 I do.

00:14:40.000 I don't know if he broke the law or not.

00:14:41.000 What I do know is he's hiding something.

00:14:43.000 You've said that he's said multiple times.

00:14:45.000 I don't know that he has.

00:14:46.000 But yet you're continuing to imply that he has.

00:14:48.000 I'm implying that he has a lot to hide, and this would make him look very bad because he was a very good friend and probably did some awful things. 0.96

00:14:54.000 Now, awful doesn't necessarily mean, awful doesn't necessarily mean breaking the law, but the way they've treated Maxwell, the fact that if any of his supporters even bring it up, he calls them stupid because he knows this makes them look bad. 0.93

00:15:06.000 Now, he might have broken the law. 0.96

00:15:07.000 I don't know.

00:15:08.000 I don't know the answer to that.

00:15:09.000 Release the files.

00:15:10.000 Release the files, and then we can stop talking about it.

00:15:12.000 If Bill Clinton is in there and he did some horrible things, I will call him out, just like I will call out Donald Trump.

00:15:17.000 It is the fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats today.

00:15:21.000 Oh, I don't know about that.

00:15:22.000 Name me one Democrat that doesn't want the files to be released right now.

00:15:24.000 I don't know.

00:15:25.000 I couldn't.

00:15:25.000 Because you couldn't name one because every single one of them has voted to release the files.

00:15:29.000 It's the Republicans that don't want the files.

00:15:32.000 If the Democrats wanted the files out, they could have released them when the Bible was in.

00:15:35.000 Then why do they want it out now then?

00:15:36.000 I don't know.

00:15:37.000 But like I said, if they were wanted, it's politically expedient for Democrats to be supporting the release in the middle.

00:15:42.000 Would it be expedient if Bill Clinton was in there and if Democrats were in there with that?

00:15:45.000 Clinton's not in evening.

00:15:48.000 Also, if the most important man in the world was banging kids, that would have been scrubbed from the FBI database years ago.

00:15:54.000 I mean, this is all like a moot point.

00:15:55.000 And also, with the Ghelaine Maxwell getting preferential treatment, I mean, she's cooperating with the DOJ. 0.97

00:16:00.000 This is not unprecedented for a high-profile sex offender to get the way she's been treated.

00:16:04.000 Yes, it is.

00:16:05.000 According to the warden and other people that have spoken to me record.

00:16:08.000 The BOP themselves has said this is not unprecedented.

00:16:10.000 Her lawyers are arguing that's politically motivated.

00:16:12.000 And then also, Jeffrey Epstein in 2008 got a very luxurious plea deal as well.

00:16:16.000 So it's not like this is a new thing.

00:16:18.000 This is under the eyes.

00:16:19.000 If you could name me someone who's been sentenced to 20 years for child sex trafficking, who is allowed a dog, who gets food deliveries to her, and is allowed security to work out anytime she wants, guests are getting snacks.

00:16:32.000 If you could name me someone that has been sentenced to 20 years for the crimes that she was found guilty of, then I'm all open ears.

00:16:38.000 But this is unprecedented, and there's a reason why the Trump administration is doing this again because Donald Trump is hiding something.

00:16:45.000 But the reason why we're saying this is unprecedented because we can't name any of it, because this is the highest profile sex crime case in American history.

00:16:51.000 Yes.

00:16:52.000 And that's why it's like, okay, yeah, when you're that high profile, there's going to be a different way of handling things in the prison system.

00:16:57.000 And then also, the DOJ, you're cooperating with the DOJ.

00:16:59.000 You're going to get us answers.

00:17:00.000 It's like, yeah, that's just how this works.

00:17:02.000 George Santos was treated 20 times worse than Maxwell is being treated.

00:17:07.000 There's something wrong with this.

00:17:08.000 I feel like it's wrong.

00:17:09.000 I feel like she offered them information that they were looking for to piece together some things.

00:17:14.000 I don't believe that at all.

00:17:15.000 Well, I'm trying to figure out why they would do it other than that.

00:17:17.000 I've given you my reasons.

00:17:18.000 I think it's pretty obvious.

00:17:20.000 They're protecting Donald Trump.

00:17:21.000 What would they have gotten?

00:17:22.000 They wanted Maxwell.

00:17:23.000 You've danced around the issue, but you won't actually come out and say it.

00:17:26.000 You assume that Donald Trump has done something wrong, as in broken the law.

00:17:30.000 Wrong doesn't necessarily mean against the law.

00:17:32.000 No, I do think Donald Trump is a criminal, but maybe not for this.

00:17:35.000 My question, Brian, is what do you think they got from Ghylaine?

00:17:38.000 Well, on the record in the interview, she said she never saw Donald Trump doing any improprieties or doing anything wrong.

00:17:44.000 Maxwell is smart enough to understand that she needs to say nice things about Donald Trump.

00:17:49.000 That's why she is in the position she's in now, where she's in a club med facility. 1.00

00:17:53.000 She's allowed to play tennis.

00:17:54.000 She's allowed to work out in the middle of the night with security.

00:17:57.000 She's allowed a puppy dog.

00:17:58.000 Okay?

00:17:59.000 Someone that has pled, regardless of what your opinions are on Donald Trump or not, I think we all could agree.

00:18:03.000 If you've done the crimes that Maxwell's done, she doesn't deserve this kind of preferential treatment.

00:18:08.000 And by the way, any of the people in that jail who have ever, who are talked to her even, or have said anything negative about her, they get enormous penalties for that.

00:18:17.000 They are protecting her.

00:18:18.000 They are being pressured by the Trump administration.

00:18:21.000 It is absolutely obvious, and there's a reason for that.

00:18:23.000 Again, I don't know whether he committed any crimes, but I do know that it is to his benefit to be treating her this way.

00:18:31.000 And that's my opinion.

00:18:32.000 It could be a honeypot, and they're like, we can't blow the lid off the honey pot.

00:18:35.000 We've got too many global pedophiles on the hook right now.

00:18:40.000 I mean, that's why, like, Trump himself said we can release the Epstein files, but there's so many moving parts here.

00:18:45.000 Again, if this truly is like an international clandestine operation, it's going to take a while to like this.

00:18:50.000 Again, I repeat what I said earlier.

00:18:51.000 If he wanted to release the files tomorrow, without a court order, without Congress, without any politician, he has the power to do so with redacting all the victims' names.

00:19:02.000 He can do that tomorrow if he wants to.

00:19:03.000 But hasn't the release been prevented by a judge?

00:19:06.000 No.

00:19:09.000 So if you remember, Pam Bondi a few weeks back said that she was opening up a new investigation.

00:19:15.000 Legally, the only way that the Trump administration cannot release the files, 100% of the files, is because of that convenient investigation that was just opened several weeks ago.

00:19:26.000 But yes, Donald Trump does have the power in general to do so, to release all the files.

00:19:31.000 I thought that a judge blocked it.

00:19:34.000 So that was, I believe, 2% of the files that you are referring to where a judge did block that.

00:19:39.000 But judge did block it. 0.95

00:19:41.000 But Donald Trump has the ability to release all the files.

00:19:44.000 You can look that up.

00:19:45.000 Legally, he has the ability to do so.

00:19:47.000 And listen, I want justice for the victims.

00:19:49.000 This is where I agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:19:51.000 This is where I agree with Lauren Boebert and Nancy Mace.

00:19:54.000 I am certainly not fans of any of them, but I am with them on this.

00:19:58.000 They're right on this.

00:19:59.000 They've met with the victims.

00:20:00.000 Let's have justice for the victims.

00:20:02.000 This isn't for me just about Donald Trump.

00:20:04.000 I would say this for any victim of sexual assault.

00:20:07.000 I want these SOBs, you know, brought to justice, and at least their reputations deserve to be tarnished. 1.00

00:20:14.000 Whether that's Donald Trump or Bill Clinton, I don't care.

00:20:17.000 I want the files released.

00:20:19.000 I've always wanted the files released.

00:20:20.000 I said this years ago.

00:20:22.000 I was very happy when Maxwell was finally sentenced.

00:20:25.000 I've interviewed Epstein's brother multiple times.

00:20:28.000 I mean, we don't have to get into that.

00:20:30.000 But, you know, Jeffrey Epstein's brother has some very interesting opinions on what he thinks happened to his brother.

00:20:36.000 Going back to Dan Bongino, because I think this is where all this started. 0.98

00:20:39.000 I think Dan Bongino is a clown. 0.95

00:20:42.000 He pretty much admitted that I was paid to say these things, meaning, well, I was paid to say BS. 0.98

00:20:47.000 That's basically what he said a few weeks ago.

00:20:48.000 Can you unbox that?

00:20:49.000 What's up?

00:20:50.000 Can you unbox that?

00:20:50.000 Well, yeah.

00:20:51.000 Bongino was asked about the Epstein files, and I believe he was asked specifically about some other conspiracy theories that he used to bring up on his podcast.

00:21:00.000 He did an interview a few weeks ago.

00:21:01.000 I don't recall exactly who it was with.

00:21:03.000 And he said, listen, it's my job now to tell the truth.

00:21:06.000 That's what he said.

00:21:07.000 I'm working for the FBI.

00:21:08.000 It's my job to tell the truth.

00:21:09.000 But back then, I was getting paid for my opinions.

00:21:13.000 So what that means to me is I was getting paid to spew conspiracy theories with no factual basis behind it, whether it be about the Epstein files.

00:21:22.000 There was a lot of, he talked about January 6th a lot.

00:21:24.000 He talked about, what about the bomber?

00:21:26.000 The bomber on January 6th.

00:21:29.000 And he talked about how it was a lefty liberal and it was Antitho.

00:21:32.000 And this was the guy who's already told the FBI that a big part or reason why he was there is because he believed that the election was stolen.

00:21:40.000 Geez, I wonder where he got that from.

00:21:42.000 Where did he get that information from?

00:21:44.000 Where did he get that from?

00:21:45.000 Just saying that his, like, he was getting paid for his ideas before, and now he's not because he's in the government, doesn't mean that his ideas necessarily were all conspiracy.

00:21:55.000 Like he had a few, he might have said a few things that without maybe vetted evidence or maybe some things that turned out that the evidence wasn't true or maybe without evidence.

00:22:02.000 I don't know.

00:22:03.000 And you cited a few things that could have been.

00:22:05.000 He spewed conspiracies about the 2020 election.

00:22:08.000 He spewed conspiracies about the bomber on January 6th.

00:22:11.000 He spewed conspiracies about Epstein, none of which were true.

00:22:15.000 And now he can't do that because he's right.

00:22:17.000 He's working for the FBI.

00:22:19.000 That's what a lot of these people do.

00:22:20.000 They say things on the air that are now proven.

00:22:24.000 Do you believe that when he said that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

00:22:26.000 Do you believe that he's lying then?

00:22:27.000 Well, I will say this.

00:22:29.000 If that is true.

00:22:30.000 Do you believe that, though?

00:22:32.000 I mean, before you said you didn't believe him, he was paid to spew lies when he was an opinion.

00:22:36.000 Well, I don't know what his opinion is.

00:22:38.000 Now that he's in the FBI, he has to tell the truth.

00:22:40.000 I don't know what his opinion was on Jeffrey Epstein, whether Jeffrey Epstein murdered himself or not.

00:22:45.000 I'm just unaware of that.

00:22:46.000 Here's what we do know.

00:22:47.000 There's a minute or two of the video that they have not released.

00:22:50.000 Jeffrey Epstein's brother believes that his brother was killed by somebody.

00:22:53.000 Now, I don't know that for sure.

00:22:54.000 But I'm asking you about Dan Bongino.

00:22:56.000 I don't know what his opinion was on it when he was a podcast.

00:22:58.000 Do you believe now that he's telling the truth when he says that actually Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

00:23:02.000 Because before, you said he was spewing lies, but now you can't tell the truth.

00:23:07.000 So do you think he's telling the truth?

00:23:09.000 Do you think that he's lying now?

00:23:10.000 Well, conspiracy theory could be true.

00:23:12.000 In regards to Jeffrey Epstein, so in regards to Jeffrey Epstein, whether he killed himself or not, the truth of the matter is that I really don't know.

00:23:20.000 Do you think that Bongino knows and is telling the truth about the Epstein murder?

00:23:26.000 I don't know.

00:23:27.000 I really don't know.

00:23:30.000 I do find it weird that a minute or two of the video isn't there.

00:23:33.000 Would you guys find that a little strange?

00:23:34.000 I mean, I'm not saying everything.

00:23:37.000 The point that I'm making is you said that now he has to tell the truth.

00:23:40.000 Well, I'm sure we all could agree that the FBI hasn't always told the truth.

00:23:44.000 Our DOJ hasn't always told the truth.

00:23:45.000 His job is to lie to us about the right things according to national secrecy, and he will maybe even say, I'm telling you the truth.

00:23:52.000 There's a minute or two that's missing from the video.

00:23:54.000 There were a lot of weird things that happened that day.

00:23:58.000 I'm not going to sit here and tell you.

00:23:59.000 Do you think Jeffrey Epstein was murdered then?

00:24:01.000 I don't know.

00:24:02.000 I think there's a lot of strange things that happened.

00:24:04.000 I truly don't know.

00:24:05.000 Here's what's weird.

00:24:06.000 When I was interviewing Jeffrey Epstein's brother, he had a parole date, I think, a few days later.

00:24:12.000 We all know that Jeffrey Epstein had boatloads of money.

00:24:14.000 Now, I'm not saying he would have gotten, you know, gotten out on, not parole, I'm using the wrong verbiage here, but he had a hearing where maybe he could be on house arrest or something.

00:24:25.000 Why would he have killed himself a few days before that hearing?

00:24:27.000 His brother made that point, which I find to be very interesting.

00:24:30.000 And again, a minute of the video is missing as well.

00:24:34.000 So I do think that's a little strange as well.

00:24:39.000 I don't know.

00:24:40.000 The fact of the matter is I don't know.

00:24:42.000 I don't know what happened.

00:24:44.000 What I do know is that Bongino has spread a lot of conspiracy theories.

00:24:47.000 I'm not saying everything he said on his podcast is a lie.

00:24:50.000 I'm sure he gets it right once in a while, but it makes him look really bad.

00:24:53.000 As you agree, he talked about the Epstein files almost every day on his podcast. 0.84

00:24:57.000 He had all those people looking like fools with the binders out there. 0.90

00:25:00.000 I blame Pam Bondi for that one. 1.00

00:25:02.000 And then all of a sudden, Donald Trump doesn't want to talk about it.

00:25:04.000 It makes Dan Bongino look really bad.

00:25:07.000 Well, I don't think Trump doesn't want to talk about it.

00:25:09.000 He was exhausted by the constant chimping from our side. 1.00

00:25:12.000 And then he's like, fine, okay, we'll release the files.

00:25:14.000 And then Congress passed a bipartisan bill to release the files.

00:25:17.000 I mean, that's not. 0.98

00:25:18.000 He's calling all of his supporters stupid for bringing it up. 0.99

00:25:21.000 That's how Trump. 0.99

00:25:21.000 Trump has always spoken like that. 0.99

00:25:23.000 This is not a particular example of him lashing out.

00:25:27.000 I mean, this is pretty consistent with how Donald Trump communicates. 1.00

00:25:30.000 Calling all of his supporters stupid. 1.00

00:25:32.000 He's calling anyone that disagrees with him stupid. 1.00

00:25:34.000 Can you give me any other time in his presidency where he called literally all of his supporters stupid for bringing something up? 0.99

00:25:40.000 I don't think that he actually specifically said all of his supporters. 0.91

00:25:42.000 He's talking about the people who are not supposed to be able to do that. 1.00

00:25:44.000 He's stupid. 1.00

00:25:45.000 He said anybody who brings it up is stupid. 1.00

00:25:46.000 So that's not what it is. 0.99

00:25:47.000 Get what Sardi has been bringing it up the last couple of years a little bit more than that.

00:25:50.000 Democrats.

00:25:51.000 Since Donald Trump got into office, the Democrats have been using this as a political thing.

00:25:54.000 From Trump's perspective, this is a left-wing attack on his presidency.

00:26:00.000 MAGA Republicans have been talking about this far more.

00:26:03.000 Trump's tuning into Fox News.

00:26:05.000 That's where he thinks the base is.

00:26:06.000 He's not tuning into Rumble.

00:26:08.000 On Fox News, they're not really concerned.

00:26:09.000 They're talking about the economy of the day-to-day politico affairs.

00:26:12.000 They're not doing deep dives into the Epstein affairs.

00:26:15.000 I mean, I don't think Dan Bongino has any credibility at all.

00:26:18.000 That's just my personal opinion.

00:26:19.000 I don't think Kash Patel does either.

00:26:20.000 I thought Kash Patel would be the first one to be outed.

00:26:23.000 I mean, I think we can all guess what your opinions are about people in the administration.

00:26:28.000 Can we talk about Dan a little?

00:26:30.000 Because I think he served as Secret Service, so there's some credibility for his life.

00:26:35.000 He wants to help.

00:26:37.000 I mean, he's and just because something is a conspiracy theory doesn't mean that it's not true.

00:26:41.000 And just because you haven't found the evidence to prove it doesn't mean it's not true, just that you don't have, it's an unproven theory.

00:26:48.000 Well, the 2020 election is unproven, but he still thinks that Donald Trump he could.

00:26:53.000 Last thing I'll say about Dan, I think earlier I said his audience is angry with him because he's been shut up up there, but I think he wants to come back and please, he wants to show the truth to his audience in a way that he can't do when he's in the government.

00:27:04.000 And to Tate's point, this is something that we talked about on the show.

00:27:07.000 There is a narrow group of people that feel very strongly about this, right?

00:27:12.000 They're very, very animated.

00:27:14.000 They care very deeply about the Epstein stuff.

00:27:16.000 But that isn't the broad Republican Party overall.

00:27:19.000 Most people care about kitchen table issues. 0.96

00:27:21.000 They care about the economy.

00:27:22.000 They care about it.

00:27:23.000 They're going to be able to pay their kids' bills.

00:27:25.000 They care about healthcare.

00:27:26.000 Well, I mean, some do.

00:27:27.000 Most people, actually, most Americans get their health care from their employer still, right?

00:27:33.000 Most Americans do.

00:27:34.000 So for most Americans, that's actually not something they worry about.

00:27:38.000 People that don't have health care, health insurance, obviously they do.

00:27:41.000 But that's not neither here nor there.

00:27:43.000 The fact of the matter is, Donald Trump, when he's talking, like Tate was saying, when he's talking about people that, you know, when he insults the people that are bringing up Epstein, he is actually insulting a narrow, committed, and very animated group of people.

00:27:56.000 He's not talking about his.

00:27:57.000 There are still a lot of Republicans that are very disappointed in Donald Trump because the Epstein files have not been released.

00:28:04.000 There are a lot of people that are not.

00:28:04.000 Again, this is honestly a lot of people that are very animated, but it's not a lot when you consider how many people voted for Donald Trump and how many people actually support the president.

00:28:17.000 Because of the economy?

00:28:18.000 Yeah, and after the epic.

00:28:19.000 And after the infamous blow-up that you're talking about, I mean, his approval rating didn't budge.

00:28:23.000 So it's like, if that were the case, there's really this large group of Republicans that their main issue was the Epstein files.

00:28:29.000 They would have defected right away.

00:28:30.000 And then on the opposite end, candidates that we've seen over the years that really lean. 0.99

00:28:35.000 The reason why I disagree is Donald Trump was the guy that talked about grabbing women by the genitals. 0.97

00:28:39.000 Donald Trump is the guy that's not. 0.98

00:28:40.000 And he still got elected.

00:28:40.000 That's my voice.

00:28:41.000 No one cared.

00:28:42.000 You're making my point for me.

00:28:43.000 No one cared.

00:28:44.000 You're making my point for me.

00:28:45.000 So I don't think the Epstein.

00:28:47.000 Listen, you guys are going to disagree with what I'm about to say, and it might be a little controversial, but I believe Donald Trump could sodomize a child on video and a portion of his base would still support him.

00:28:57.000 That's why I call it a cult. 0.95

00:28:58.000 It is his cult.

00:29:00.000 But you're comparing something completely separately.

00:29:02.000 Look, the morality of Donald Trump was what was up for vote in the primaries of 2016 that was sized.

00:29:08.000 I don't think a lot of Trump supporters care about morals.

00:29:10.000 If they did, they wouldn't have voted for him.

00:29:11.000 So, I mean, again, it's like, this is like they're not voting for a priest.

00:29:15.000 They're voting for a president.

00:29:16.000 I mean, we've had morally compromised presidents throughout history.

00:29:19.000 This is just the way things operate.

00:29:21.000 Maybe in our lifetime, a president that has done some of the repugnant, just the stuff that he said about Bill Clinton.

00:29:29.000 Well, okay, Bill Clinton allegedly.

00:29:33.000 Okay, so that's just what we're doing.

00:29:35.000 And then there's presidents that committed war crimes.

00:29:37.000 George W. Bush.

00:29:38.000 That's much more reprehensible than like.

00:29:39.000 So Bill Clinton, I would not vote for because I do believe he's done some of the things that you're doing.

00:29:43.000 No one's saying that.

00:29:43.000 I don't care what you voted for.

00:29:44.000 You were saying who is as morally repugnant as you vote for Bill Clinton over Donald Trump.

00:29:49.000 100%.

00:29:50.000 Yeah.

00:29:50.000 Because I don't think after a couple is murdered, Bill Clinton the next day would trash those people.

00:29:56.000 That's exactly what Donald Trump did the other day. 0.99

00:29:57.000 Blinton's alleged to, you know, he's an alleged rapist, just like Donald Trump is an alleged rapist. 0.97

00:30:02.000 But I still believe Bill Clinton is a better leader than Donald Trump. 0.96

00:30:05.000 But you've moved the goal push.

00:30:08.000 You've moved the goal push, you're saying name one president, and we name like three, and then you're like, well, what about like how we handled Reiner?

00:30:13.000 And it's like, what?

00:30:14.000 That's not.

00:30:15.000 Okay, so Bill Clinton is accused of sexual abuse, right?

00:30:19.000 He was never found liable in a court of law the way Donald Trump was.

00:30:22.000 Okay.

00:30:23.000 So that's number one.

00:30:24.000 Those are allegations.

00:30:25.000 Now, Donald Trump did cheat on Hillary Clinton.

00:30:27.000 Yes, he did do that. 1.00

00:30:28.000 And that was stupid and that was horrible and that was morally wrong. 1.00

00:30:31.000 I completely agree. 1.00

00:30:32.000 Joe Biden's alleged to have gone into the shower with his daughter.

00:30:36.000 There is a page in the diary that has not been confirmed.

00:30:40.000 Alleged.

00:30:41.000 It was in, and you're comparing a page in a diary where his daughter allegedly said borderline inappropriate.

00:30:49.000 It is not borderline inappropriate to digitally use your fingers in a dressing room the way Donald Trump did, and a jury of his peers found that he penetrated her, and the judge characterized it as a.

00:31:01.000 You're splitting here because we're talking about Bill Clinton, who's alleged to actually have raped someone, who's done.

00:31:06.000 But you mentioned Joe Biden, and I think morally, you're comparing.

00:31:10.000 No, the point that we're making is it is not as if Donald Trump is some uniquely bad president or morally compromised person as opposed to other presidents in the past.

00:31:21.000 I think he is.

00:31:21.000 Well, 100%.

00:31:22.000 I want to make a confirmation about leadership because I think Trump has like a, maybe, maybe arguably has a lower leadership score as a character because he's causing so much division in society than Bill Clinton.

00:31:33.000 But that doesn't mean he hasn't done better things as a leader.

00:31:35.000 Even with the lower score, you can accomplish greater stuff.

00:31:38.000 Can you name me a former president that's ever attacked a POW for being captured?

00:31:43.000 Again, this is just like, what about is it?

00:31:46.000 No.

00:31:46.000 No, it's the things that Donald Trump is probably in my life.

00:31:51.000 You want to talk about literally attacking POWs, dudes, issuing. 0.97

00:31:54.000 Attacking POWs, women of color, attacking women on the legs. 0.97

00:31:57.000 I can go on and on. 1.00

00:31:59.000 Mexicans are rapists, but I suppose some of them are good people. 1.00

00:32:02.000 Yeah, they killed a lot of our own POWs in Vietnam. 1.00

00:32:04.000 They issued a lot of drone bombing campaigns.

00:32:06.000 Trump hasn't done stuff like that.

00:32:08.000 He has some value.

00:32:09.000 He dodged the military multiple times.

00:32:10.000 He did.

00:32:11.000 What he's doing is he's helping us not become part of his banking order.

00:32:14.000 He's trying to slow it down.

00:32:16.000 Clinton wasn't.

00:32:16.000 He was ramping it up with glasses.

00:32:18.000 We ended in Bill Clinton's presidency with a surplus.

00:32:21.000 Donald Trump got us $8.2 trillion in debt.

00:32:23.000 Because we were inflating the economy in Clinton's campus.

00:32:26.000 You could blame who you want, but Donald Trump got us $8.2 trillion in debt.

00:32:30.000 Let's not let the situation right now.

00:32:32.000 This has already broken down into a big old, like, oh, Donald Trump's so bad.

00:32:37.000 That's just kind of pointless.

00:32:38.000 So we're going to jump to this story here.

00:32:41.000 Let's see.

00:32:42.000 It is from Newswatch on X. They're saying that AOC leads JD Vance 51 to 49 in a hypothetical 2028 poll from Verisight.

00:32:52.000 Really?

00:32:52.000 Now, yeah.

00:32:54.000 I mean, look, it's interesting.

00:32:55.000 You might agree on this one.

00:32:56.000 It's very, very early.

00:32:59.000 Yeah.

00:32:59.000 And I've been saying on the show that it is a bad idea to underestimate AOC, whether or not you agree with her, whether or not you like her, I don't think that there's any of her policies that I personally agree with.

00:33:11.000 But I do think that she's a skilled politician. 1.00

00:33:13.000 I think that she wouldn't be in the situation that she's in now, basically being the face of the party right now, right?

00:33:19.000 At least on the national level.

00:33:21.000 There are very few Democrats that have better name recognition than AOC or that people could pick out of a lineup.

00:33:28.000 Certainly not Hakeem Jeffries.

00:33:30.000 I don't think AOC should run for president.

00:33:32.000 But I do think that it is worth noting, you know, this early, a 51 to 49 lead when you've got JD Vance in the president.

00:33:39.000 And of course, Donald Trump does have a bit of baggage right now.

00:33:43.000 It is fresh off of a big win.

00:33:46.000 So that would affect JD Vance too.

00:33:47.000 But I'm interested in hearing you.

00:33:48.000 No, I want to say this is 100% correct.

00:33:52.000 If you're a Democrat, you should be throwing your full weight behind an AOC presenter.

00:33:56.000 Verisite is not a cut rate pollster at all.

00:33:58.000 They're very reputable.

00:33:59.000 They definitely got the 2016 election absolutely spot on.

00:34:02.000 I think every Democrat should be riding with AOC.

00:34:06.000 This is your gal.

00:34:07.000 This is your gal.

00:34:08.000 Let's go.

00:34:08.000 I disagree.

00:34:10.000 I know what you're saying, Tate.

00:34:11.000 I know what you're doing.

00:34:12.000 She's fantastic.

00:34:13.000 I'm telling you.

00:34:14.000 Look, she's blowing JD Vance out. 1.00

00:34:15.000 Come on, nominate her. 1.00

00:34:16.000 No, she's so viable.

00:34:18.000 Verisight's a great pollster.

00:34:20.000 This is a separate rep, I think that she's extremely dangerous, and I think that she, I know that Tim disagrees, and there's a lot of people that disagree with me, but I think she is very dangerous, and I think that she could absolutely win.

00:34:29.000 So I partially agree with you.

00:34:32.000 I think when Republicans attack her because she was a bartender, I think it's disgusting.

00:34:37.000 I have a lot of respect for AOC.

00:34:39.000 However, I don't think she should run for president.

00:34:42.000 I think a vice president would be a better choice for her. 1.00

00:34:45.000 If it was against the JD Vance, I could think of other people, not because he has the same last name as me, but Josh Shapiro.

00:34:50.000 I'm thinking about the governor of Maryland.

00:34:51.000 Obviously, right now, the frontrunner is Gavin Newsom.

00:34:54.000 I think if it was a Gavin Newsome AOC ticket, I think that would work much better.

00:34:59.000 This is the bottom line that Democrats need to understand, and some Democrats get very upset at me for saying this.

00:35:03.000 Women are 0-2 against Donald Trump. 0.98

00:35:05.000 Let's go.

00:35:06.000 I don't believe, and listen, I have no problem with a woman being a president. 1.00

00:35:10.000 I voted for Kamala Harris happily.

00:35:11.000 I would have voted for a ham sandwich over Donald Trump.

00:35:14.000 But then that's not saying anything about that fact that you voted for Kamala Harris.

00:35:18.000 If she's going against Donald Trump, obviously you're going to vote for.

00:35:21.000 But I'm just speaking in general terms who I think can win.

00:35:23.000 I'd be very concerned.

00:35:24.000 While I agree with some of the stuff you said, I think you have to put a man in there. 0.85

00:35:29.000 And it's not because I don't like women. 0.96

00:35:30.000 It's not because I don't think a woman could be president.

00:35:32.000 I voted for Kamala.

00:35:34.000 I would be concerned if she was running for president. 1.00

00:35:36.000 I think Democrats right now need to learn from their mistakes.

00:35:40.000 You know, Hillary and Kamala lost to Trump.

00:35:43.000 Joe Biden won.

00:35:44.000 So I think the polls are, listen, we're three hours out.

00:35:49.000 I'm sorry, three years out.

00:35:51.000 I think it's a little early with these polls.

00:35:53.000 I think you guys do have an issue with JD Vance.

00:35:55.000 He's not Donald Trump in the sense that he's not bringing people out the way Donald Trump did, even though I despise Donald Trump.

00:36:01.000 JD Vance certainly doesn't have the charisma, and he's not as well-liked as certainly some of you would say Donald Trump is.

00:36:08.000 No, I agree.

00:36:09.000 I think I agree with Brian, and he'll agree with me.

00:36:12.000 We need to get these broads back to the kitchen. 1.00

00:36:14.000 Get them out of here.

00:36:15.000 Well, I didn't say that.

00:36:16.000 You sound like Myron Gaines now.

00:36:17.000 I didn't say that.

00:36:18.000 Well, I mean, you didn't say it so colorfully, but you're not going to be able to say that.

00:36:22.000 It's not because I don't want them to be president.

00:36:23.000 I don't think it's the same reason why if Pete Buttigieg ran for president.

00:36:26.000 By the way, I think Pete Buttigieg is an extremely unlikely.

00:36:28.000 I'm going to gaze under the bus.

00:36:30.000 And I'm not trying to do that either.

00:36:31.000 I think there are a lot of people out there that did not vote for Kamala Harris, sadly, because she's a woman.

00:36:37.000 You don't think that it was because of Kamala Harris as a person, as a candidate.

00:36:40.000 What was wrong with her as a person?

00:36:42.000 As a candidate, she was extremely unlikable. 1.00

00:36:45.000 She had terrible, terrible charisma.

00:36:48.000 And most people vote charisma.

00:36:50.000 Honestly, most people vote vibes.

00:36:51.000 She was unlikable.

00:36:52.000 She didn't win any of the primaries when she was running.

00:36:55.000 She was out before she got to her home state because if she'd have gone in California, she'd have lost and her political career would have been over. 0.99

00:37:02.000 Okay, well, sadly, there are people out there that vote on charisma.

00:37:05.000 I wish that wasn't the case.

00:37:06.000 I wish people could be a little bit more informed and not vote for somebody because they make a joke.

00:37:12.000 She only had three months.

00:37:13.000 It's one of my biggest criticisms of Joe Biden.

00:37:15.000 He should have stepped down much earlier.

00:37:17.000 And if they had a primary, I would have been much better with that.

00:37:20.000 They should have had that.

00:37:21.000 Yeah, but of course having a primary in age as well.

00:37:23.000 Well, Joe Biden, again, it's my biggest criticism of Joe Biden.

00:37:27.000 He put his ego ahead of the country.

00:37:30.000 He should have stepped down and he should have been a one-term.

00:37:32.000 He only gave her three months.

00:37:33.000 Donald Trump had four years to campaign.

00:37:35.000 She only had three months.

00:37:36.000 I do not blame Kamala Harris.

00:37:38.000 I do think her campaign was a little bit too careful with her. 0.99

00:37:42.000 She should have done the Joe Rogan show. 0.62

00:37:43.000 She should have done shows like this. 1.00

00:37:45.000 See, I think the reason that she didn't do those things is because of her lack of concern.

00:37:49.000 Now, I thought she would have been terrible on those.

00:37:51.000 No, I disagree.

00:37:52.000 I thought her interview on the Howard Stern show was a good one, and I think that she should have done Joe Rogan.

00:37:57.000 I think she was more than capable of doing it.

00:37:59.000 Listen, it was an anti-Donald Trump vote for me.

00:38:02.000 Kamala wasn't my first second or third pick, just like Joe Biden wasn't my first second or third pick.

00:38:07.000 I think the Democrats do have some young, skilled people.

00:38:10.000 AOC, I agree with what you just said.

00:38:13.000 I think she's a decent human being.

00:38:16.000 I don't always agree with her.

00:38:17.000 I think some of her, you know, the Green New Deal and stuff like that, a little bit too far to the left for me.

00:38:22.000 What do you think the Inflation Reduction Act was?

00:38:24.000 I'm not a big fan.

00:38:25.000 I'm not a big fan.

00:38:26.000 I'll be honest with you.

00:38:27.000 I'm pretty moderate when it comes to some policies, but I'm very much to the left when it comes to social issues, and I'm not afraid of that.

00:38:35.000 I voted for eight Republicans in the midterms.

00:38:37.000 I did not vote for Barack Obama.

00:38:39.000 I did not vote for Hillary Clinton.

00:38:42.000 I thought John McCain could have been a really good president.

00:38:44.000 I thought Mitt Romney would have been fine.

00:38:46.000 I have respect for Mitt Romney.

00:38:48.000 I have a lot of respect for AOC, but I just don't think that would be a smart decision for the Democrats.

00:38:54.000 You know why I didn't vote for Kamala, and you said you voted against Trump and that you would have voted for Hamilton.

00:38:59.000 I think Kamala was a decent human being.

00:39:00.000 What I voted for was the system because what they did was choose a candidate without they bypassed the primary.

00:39:05.000 I'm like, this is a bad precedent for the future of American democracy.

00:39:09.000 They chose Hillary Clinton with superdelegates.

00:39:11.000 They set a precedent where the Democratic Party can select a candidate without the people's voice.

00:39:16.000 I feel like they call themselves Democratic, but that's a guise.

00:39:19.000 It's actually the imperial economic order that's trying to control and turn us into a corporate government.

00:39:25.000 So I voted against that.

00:39:28.000 Well, there's a lot of people that I've spoken to, people that didn't vote.

00:39:33.000 Now, they won't admit it publicly, but I do think, sadly, this makes me really sad to say this.

00:39:37.000 There's a lot of people in this country that do not want to vote for a woman as president of the United States.

00:39:41.000 Makes me very sad to say that.

00:39:42.000 The reason why I brought up Pete Butige is: yes, I think there is a percentage of people in this country that would not vote for him because he's gay. 0.53

00:39:48.000 I hate saying that. 0.91

00:39:49.000 I think it's awful.

00:39:50.000 I think Pete Buttigieg would be a good candidate, but we have to look at the Democrat Party have to look at the reality of the situation here.

00:39:56.000 Who's electable and who's not?

00:39:57.000 You mentioned Gavin Newsom and AOC.

00:39:59.000 I agree.

00:39:59.000 I think that's the most powerful Democratic ticket we see.

00:40:02.000 I see right now.

00:40:02.000 And I'm wondering what you guys think about JD Vance, obviously the frontrunner for the Republican Party, but who do you think would make a great VP for J.D.?

00:40:07.000 Marco Rubio wants the job, and I think he's going to get it.

00:40:10.000 I think that's the main reason why he took this position.

00:40:12.000 And I think it will be JD Vance and Marco Rubio.

00:40:15.000 And I absolutely believe that it's going to be Gavin Newsome.

00:40:18.000 Whether he picks AOC or not, I'm not sure.

00:40:20.000 I think that would be a very intelligent move to make.

00:40:22.000 So your politics where you supported John McCain, tactically in a way, supported Mitt Romney, didn't want to vote for Obama.

00:40:32.000 And then you've had some hang-ups with Biden, Kamala, et cetera.

00:40:35.000 And then you're against Trump.

00:40:36.000 To me, this sounds like someone that is just defending the status quo.

00:40:41.000 And as a Zoomer, I'm 24.

00:40:43.000 Everything around me is completely broken.

00:40:45.000 The system has fundamentally failed in a variety of ways.

00:40:48.000 And I just, for me, I just don't see how that's a defensible position to want to uphold the system out of the city.

00:40:54.000 If we want to talk about policy, I'll tell you the issues that I have right now.

00:40:58.000 I don't believe giving the biggest tax breaks to the top 1%, which is $100 billion this year, is a good idea.

00:41:04.000 I don't like the fact that 20 million people are going to be off their Medicaid coverage in the big and beautiful bill.

00:41:09.000 I don't like the fact that millions of people are going to lose their food stamps.

00:41:12.000 I think we need to take care of people that are struggling.

00:41:14.000 Donald Trump, the economy is very good for the richest people in this country.

00:41:18.000 I don't like that.

00:41:19.000 And I don't mean to sound like Bernie Sanders here, but the economy is in the crapper right now.

00:41:24.000 Five months in a row, inflation has gone up.

00:41:26.000 The unemployment rate when Joe Biden left office was at 4.1%.

00:41:30.000 I believe it's hovering around 4.6, 4.7%.

00:41:33.000 The private sector job growth is abysmal.

00:41:36.000 It's terrible.

00:41:37.000 And you guys admitted it.

00:41:38.000 That's why his numbers are so bad in the 30s, okay?

00:41:42.000 His approval rating numbers.

00:41:43.000 By the way, he didn't do what he said he was going to do.

00:41:45.000 The reason that his approval ratings are bad is because of the fact that people tend to pull away from the party that just won.

00:41:52.000 So Joe Biden's numbers were not this low a year into his presidency.

00:41:56.000 People tend to historically.

00:41:58.000 And I don't think it's going to be practical for an audience to compare economics numbers.

00:42:03.000 That was my original question: what about the system as it stands?

00:42:07.000 Do you see as defensible worth upholding?

00:42:09.000 Because clearly half the country voting for Trump indicates that people are very upset with the system.

00:42:13.000 And on the Democrat side, voting for people like Zoron voting for the United States.

00:42:16.000 Yeah, half the country didn't necessarily vote for Trump.

00:42:19.000 Less than half the.

00:42:20.000 77 million.

00:42:20.000 Right, but less than half the people that went to the voter booth did not vote for Donald Trump.

00:42:24.000 He did win the popular vote, but there's a lot of people that are very unhappy.

00:42:27.000 There's a lot of people that thought this was America first agenda.

00:42:30.000 When you bail out other countries in the way he has, and you invite former al-Qaeda leaders to the White House, and you do business with Qatar, and you do business with the Prince, and you invite him to the White House, this is not an America-first agenda.

00:42:42.000 When you say 600,000 Chinese people should be coming to this country because we don't have enough talented people here, a lot of people were very pissed off at some of those things.

00:42:50.000 This is not an America-first agenda.

00:42:51.000 So a lot of people are very upset.

00:42:53.000 So are you saying that there should be a more America-first agenda?

00:42:56.000 Or are you just pointing out things that other people are doing?

00:42:59.000 I'm saying why his numbers are so low and why so many of his supporters I think are jumping ships.

00:43:03.000 Well, I understand the criticisms of Trump from the right.

00:43:05.000 I'm asking you what specifically about the system as it stands.

00:43:09.000 Can you not understand why people are supporting Donald Trump?

00:43:11.000 Why people are supporting your Bernie system?

00:43:12.000 When you say system, be specific and give me something that the Democrats have put forth that you disagree with in regards to the system so I could be specific and give it this post-war consensus, this sort of liberalism as it stands is fundamentally failing.

00:43:24.000 People are seeing the suicide rate skyrocket.

00:43:26.000 You're seeing depression numbers through the roof, substance abuse through the roof.

00:43:29.000 So you're blaming the suicide numbers for what?

00:43:32.000 I mean, I could talk about gun control and I can talk to you how easy it is for people to get their hands on guns.

00:43:37.000 Suicide rates are through the roof.

00:43:38.000 It's too easy for people to get their hands on guns that are mentally ill.

00:43:41.000 I could talk to you about the suicide rate is also sky high in places with super tight.

00:43:45.000 And which party is taking money away from allocating funds for people that are mentally ill that need help?

00:43:50.000 Which party is doing that?

00:43:51.000 I don't think every single suicidal person is doing this because of lack of resources.

00:43:54.000 I think they're doing it because of lack of resources.

00:43:56.000 I didn't say every single person.

00:43:58.000 All I'm saying is which party, after a mass shooting, talks about how we need to help mentally ill and which party is actually financially wanting to back up.

00:44:07.000 We have enough government programs to try and plug holes in this, but the reality is the system as it stands is robbing people of purpose.

00:44:14.000 Well, I think you'd have to be specific again and give me some policies, and then I might agree with you.

00:44:18.000 I don't know.

00:44:19.000 I mean, I don't agree with Democrats on every policy.

00:44:22.000 Yes, I don't agree that transgenders should be competing with women on the playing field, but I also don't think that's a top 10 issue. 1.00

00:44:28.000 Republicans are obsessed with banning books.

00:44:30.000 They're obsessed with transgender.

00:44:31.000 There are no banned books.

00:44:34.000 If you're talking about transgender people, what do you mean they talk about banning books?

00:44:37.000 If you're talking about curating books that are in public libraries, that's curation.

00:44:42.000 That's a different thing.

00:44:43.000 Any book that you want to get, any book that a liberal or some progressive or someone on the left wants to get, they can buy right from Amazon.

00:44:50.000 And there's no issue getting it.

00:44:51.000 I understand.

00:44:52.000 You're not banning books.

00:44:53.000 You're talking about you have a problem with the way that the left or with the way that the right curates books that are in public libraries.

00:45:00.000 What I will say is the Republicans talk about these books a lot.

00:45:03.000 That's a big topic for them.

00:45:05.000 I can go to the- It's not banning, though.

00:45:08.000 It's curating what is in public libraries or in schools.

00:45:12.000 If something is.

00:45:12.000 Curation is not banning.

00:45:14.000 That's totally different.

00:45:15.000 So here's the point that I was trying to make.

00:45:17.000 When you look at, I believe it's the second leading cause of death in children under 16, gun violence.

00:45:24.000 And it's not the second leading cause of death in children under 16.

00:45:27.000 What is it?

00:45:29.000 What number is it?

00:45:30.000 I don't know what it is, but it's not the second.

00:45:32.000 I thought it was the second.

00:45:33.000 I could be wrong on that.

00:45:34.000 But I think we all could agree here.

00:45:36.000 You know, children getting gunned down in schools is horrible.

00:45:38.000 It's terrible.

00:45:39.000 But I feel like MAGA Republicans particularly care more about drag queens, and they make it sound like drag queens are more of a threat to children in this country than all the gun violence we have.

00:45:51.000 And I think that is, I'm very passionate about that.

00:45:54.000 I grew up right down the road from Sandy Hook in Connecticut.

00:45:58.000 And, you know, have you ever seen a Democrat on a campaign ad brag about their A-plus rating from the NRA?

00:46:05.000 It's all Republicans.

00:46:06.000 Have you ever seen a Democrat?

00:46:09.000 There used to be pro-gun.

00:46:10.000 There used to be gun deaths.

00:46:11.000 But also used to be.

00:46:11.000 But this is dancing around the main sort of point I'm trying to get to is drag queens as they exist are downstream from what is the issue fundamentally is people in the United States and the West broadly have been robbed of their identity.

00:46:24.000 And so they just gravitate.

00:46:26.000 They believe it's something that's transient, something that can just move around.

00:46:28.000 Gun violence is just a method. 0.97

00:46:31.000 How are you robbed of your identity?

00:46:33.000 Explain that to me.

00:46:34.000 How are people getting robbed of their guns?

00:46:36.000 Well, hang on.

00:46:37.000 Because if you're born as a woman and then you get derastinated and you're like, okay, maybe I can.

00:46:43.000 Who's derastinating?

00:46:45.000 This new post-war consensus, this liberal.

00:46:47.000 Yeah, but who's forcing children to be transgender? 0.87

00:46:50.000 the system at large because there's no the system?

00:46:52.000 yes because that's a very broad statement Because there's no sense of identity.

00:46:56.000 There's no emphasis of identity.

00:46:58.000 So telling children it's okay to be transgender, you're not okay with that?

00:47:02.000 Yes, I'm not okay with that at all.

00:47:04.000 They're children.

00:47:04.000 They're not here.

00:47:05.000 They're not.

00:47:05.000 So if a children ask a question, what is transgender, the teacher shouldn't be allowed to answer it?

00:47:10.000 That's something that parents should talk about, to be honest with you.

00:47:12.000 But to be honest with you, the idea that children have to know about this stuff, I totally reject it.

00:47:16.000 It depends on how old they are.

00:47:20.000 I think it depends on how old they are.

00:47:21.000 But the idea that Donald Trump says you drop off your children at school and then they come home another gender is a joke.

00:47:26.000 That's not happening.

00:47:27.000 It's not an easy thing to do.

00:47:29.000 You have to talk to doctors.

00:47:31.000 You have to talk to therapists.

00:47:32.000 You have to get parental consent in most cases.

00:47:34.000 It depends on where you are.

00:47:35.000 It depends on where you are in some place.

00:47:37.000 It's clearly coming from somewhere because we are seeing as each generation passes the doubling of LGBT identification with transmission. 0.89

00:47:45.000 You know why?

00:47:45.000 Because maybe, maybe people find it to be a little bit more socially acceptable to be gay now than it was maybe 20, 30 years ago.

00:47:54.000 If that were the case, then why is that?

00:47:55.000 It's so very different.

00:47:56.000 So you guys think one day a child or a teenager just says, hey, I think I'm going to like men now because my teacher said it's okay.

00:48:02.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:48:04.000 It's not about being gay.

00:48:05.000 It's about being transgender, which means that you think you're not in the right body, which is like a dysmorphic thing that can happen to kids if they don't.

00:48:11.000 Why do we want to get involved in that?

00:48:12.000 Why not let them listen to professionals?

00:48:14.000 Because there's a massive incentive structure bending towards it.

00:48:16.000 Of course, there is.

00:48:17.000 There is.

00:48:17.000 Yes.

00:48:18.000 What's the incentive structure?

00:48:19.000 Well, among there's economic benefits.

00:48:21.000 You have like BC of DEI principles that sort of benefit you in college admissions if you're part of the LGBT.

00:48:26.000 And probably it's also culturally, it is the cool, the cool in thing.

00:48:30.000 So people are getting advantages in society because they're transgender. 0.99

00:48:34.000 Yes.

00:48:36.000 I haven't heard that before.

00:48:37.000 I think it's actually the opposite.

00:48:38.000 I think a lot of these people are discriminated against.

00:48:40.000 No.

00:48:40.000 I have a status of a law they cannot be discriminated against.

00:48:43.000 And actually not just quotas.

00:48:44.000 They still are, though.

00:48:46.000 Just because the law says you can't discriminate doesn't mean it doesn't. 1.00

00:48:49.000 You have weapons at your disposal to sue.

00:48:51.000 I mean, it's not that.

00:48:52.000 I don't understand why Republicans are obsessed with transgender.

00:48:55.000 Why would your companies have it out for trans people? 0.60

00:48:57.000 It's just not happening whatsoever.

00:48:59.000 Well, I think in this society, if you are gay or if you are transgender, I think that group of people are discriminated a lot more against than people that are like us.

00:49:09.000 Not nowadays.

00:49:10.000 Not nowadays.

00:49:11.000 It's like how is a white male our age being discriminated against because the color of our skin or our sexuality?

00:49:17.000 That was a great article.

00:49:19.000 Just tell me.

00:49:19.000 We don't have to look up an article.

00:49:20.000 Just tell me.

00:49:21.000 Well, it's discriminated in hiring, in college admissions.

00:49:26.000 If you look at the number of young white people.

00:49:28.000 So you're talking about affirmative action.

00:49:30.000 Is that what you're referring to when it comes to college admissions?

00:49:32.000 I'm talking about, particularly in the workplace, but workplaces are saying we need to focus on diversity, and we're not going to hire white men.

00:49:40.000 So you think that's what we even saw with the last election where Biden's like, I'm going to pick a female. 0.96

00:49:44.000 So let me ask you guys a question then. 0.94

00:49:45.000 In society right now, would you rather be a white male or would you rather be a gay black male? 0.85

00:49:51.000 What would you rather be in society? 0.90

00:49:52.000 I'd rather be me.

00:49:54.000 My identity is intrinsic to me.

00:49:56.000 It's biased.

00:49:57.000 You think that transgenders and homosexuals are treated better than the average straight white male in this country?

00:50:02.000 I disagree with you on that.

00:50:04.000 I think they're under a lot of stress.

00:50:05.000 Well, because they're under stress because it's not a, it's a corrosive, it's a sort of state of being that is corrosive to the soul in many ways. 0.90

00:50:12.000 Why is being gay corrosive to the system? 1.00

00:50:14.000 It's corrosive to your system. 0.99

00:50:15.000 I don't want to conflate gay and transgender. 0.98

00:50:17.000 Well, but hold on, this is important, though.

00:50:19.000 Because having a children's money is a lot of people.

00:50:19.000 Why would you being married in a happy marriage with a woman and having children is naturally beneficial to the soul?

00:50:25.000 So your opinion, which is fine, I respect your opinion.

00:50:28.000 If you think naturally marrying a woman and having kids is better for your soul, that's fine. 1.00

00:50:35.000 But not everybody thinks like you, and everybody is different.

00:50:38.000 Most people that are gay, including George Santos, who happens to be a friend of mine, told me he knew he was gay when he was five years old.

00:50:44.000 It wasn't a choice.

00:50:46.000 Why would you say it's corrosive to somebody when it's not even their choice?

00:50:50.000 We haven't made the argument that we haven't.

00:50:52.000 No, we haven't made the argument that being gay is a choice.

00:50:54.000 We made the argument that transgenderism is a choice. 0.94

00:50:56.000 Right, but you said being gay is corrosive. 0.99

00:50:58.000 You said the lifestyle of being gay is corrosive. 1.00

00:51:00.000 And I would say gay. 1.00

00:51:01.000 They're much more unhappy. 1.00

00:51:02.000 The suicide rate's far higher.

00:51:03.000 The substance abuse rate is far higher.

00:51:05.000 Did you ever think that maybe the suicide rate is more higher because of the way people treat them in society?

00:51:09.000 Well, and getting glossy advertisements and getting put on the cover of every fashion magazine?

00:51:14.000 I mean, I would have bought this argument in like the 60s.

00:51:16.000 No, maybe being hazed when you were a kid and maybe people like you telling people that you're corrosive, even though it's not your choice.

00:51:21.000 I wouldn't say they are corrosive.

00:51:22.000 I said the action is corrosive.

00:51:24.000 Which makes them corrosive.

00:51:25.000 Their behavior is corrosive.

00:51:26.000 Any human beings corrosively.

00:51:28.000 To the soul was a specific quote.

00:51:29.000 Yes, that's how it's going to be.

00:51:31.000 I think there's a lot of action.

00:51:32.000 Fundamentally, this is just where I think we just fundamentally hear.

00:51:36.000 I don't care what your sexuality is. 0.98

00:51:38.000 I don't care whether you're a transgender or not. 1.00

00:51:40.000 It certainly doesn't affect me in a negative way.

00:51:42.000 I want people to live their lives and be happy, and I want the government out of their lives.

00:51:46.000 I don't want to treat people with disrespect or call them their behavior corrosive just because their sexuality is different than me.

00:51:52.000 I do too.

00:51:53.000 You keep mischaracterizing.

00:51:54.000 I say corrosive to your soul.

00:51:56.000 This action does impact you.

00:51:57.000 And then, yes.

00:51:58.000 People, the transgender movement at large has affected everybody. 1.00

00:52:02.000 Because all society is, is a makeup.

00:52:04.000 It's a conglomeration of individuals.

00:52:06.000 And so when you have a large proportion of individuals behaving in a certain way, that's going to have an impact on society.

00:52:11.000 Would you not vote for somebody because of their sexuality?

00:52:13.000 It depends on who it is.

00:52:15.000 I mean, is that a factor to you?

00:52:17.000 It doesn't matter.

00:52:17.000 It's a factor, yeah.

00:52:18.000 Okay.

00:52:19.000 So it's corrosive.

00:52:20.000 Being a single man is a factor to me.

00:52:22.000 Like, I would have hang-ups if, like, someone was running for president.

00:52:24.000 They were a single man.

00:52:24.000 There's a lot of factors.

00:52:25.000 What about somebody that cheats on every woman he's ever been with?

00:52:27.000 Is that corrosive to the soul as well?

00:52:29.000 Yeah, that is a factor.

00:52:30.000 Absolutely.

00:52:30.000 Trump's morality was a factor in supporting him.

00:52:32.000 But it wasn't enough for you to say that. 0.99

00:52:34.000 That's why I said I would vote for a gay guy.

00:52:36.000 Like, that's not the deciding factor.

00:52:38.000 It's just a factor, yes.

00:52:39.000 I really voted against the imperial corporate state that seems to be trying to force us to take their medicine.

00:52:45.000 It's really.

00:52:46.000 I don't know.

00:52:47.000 I guess I don't know.

00:52:48.000 It's just me.

00:52:49.000 I don't care what someone's sexuality is.

00:52:51.000 I don't think they're corrosive just because they're different than me.

00:52:55.000 You keep saying that over there.

00:52:56.000 Their behavior is corrosive. 0.98

00:52:57.000 Being gay is not corrosive to my soul. 0.99

00:52:59.000 It's corrosive to theirs.

00:53:01.000 The argument that he was making is that part of the reason why people are depressed or part of the reason why there's such depression and stuff is because it's corrosive to their soul, not because they are corrosive to themselves or to others.

00:53:12.000 And likewise, that's why you're seeing like right now with like this incel thing that's happening.

00:53:16.000 Again, that is a behavior, not having companionship is corrosive to your soul.

00:53:20.000 If you hate women, that's going to be corrosive to your soul. 1.00

00:53:22.000 Anything that is outside of this natural order is going to cause you grief.

00:53:26.000 Like I don't, I think even gay people would agree with me as they would say, yeah, not being able to have like this, you know, sort of traditional marriage, not being able to procreate. 1.00

00:53:35.000 Like, yeah, it sucks. 0.98

00:53:37.000 And that's why gay people often will say, like, if I had kids, I wouldn't want them to be gay. 1.00

00:53:41.000 They say this all the time.

00:53:42.000 Well, like I said, in most cases, it's not a choice.

00:53:47.000 I don't care what people do behind closed doors so long as it's not illegal.

00:53:51.000 I disagree with you.

00:53:52.000 I don't think that behavior is corrosive to the soul.

00:53:55.000 I think if you're going back to religious purposes or the Bible, I could care less what a book says.

00:54:00.000 You never once alluded to the Bible.

00:54:02.000 I'm just speaking in general terms.

00:54:03.000 I'm not saying you said that.

00:54:05.000 But I think this is the problem in society in general.

00:54:09.000 I think we are too judgmental of other people based on their behavior that might not be exactly the way you want it for you.

00:54:16.000 And you know what I say?

00:54:17.000 Be happy.

00:54:18.000 Marry somebody. 0.96

00:54:19.000 Have as many kids as you want.

00:54:21.000 Just don't judge other people because they're not like you.

00:54:24.000 Do you think the issue in today's society is that not enough people are being told yes?

00:54:30.000 I think the issue in society is too many people are being told this is right and this is wrong.

00:54:34.000 We could be talking about religion.

00:54:35.000 Reason objective morality.

00:54:36.000 Yes.

00:54:36.000 We could be talking about religion.

00:54:38.000 My religion is right.

00:54:39.000 Everybody else's religion is wrong. 1.00

00:54:40.000 There's a lot of people that think like that, and I think they're sick. 0.97

00:54:43.000 All sorts of different. 0.78

00:54:44.000 Well, all sorts of different religions.

00:54:46.000 Who are you to tell somebody that they're right and you're wrong?

00:54:48.000 You don't know who God is.

00:54:49.000 You've never met God.

00:54:50.000 You've never met him.

00:54:51.000 You don't know.

00:54:52.000 No, you don't.

00:54:52.000 You don't know if there's life after death.

00:54:54.000 You can say you do, but you don't.

00:54:56.000 There is.

00:54:56.000 I could say that the tooth fairy is God.

00:54:58.000 We don't know.

00:54:59.000 Okay.

00:55:00.000 You can believe what you want to believe.

00:55:01.000 This can turn into a theology debate.

00:55:04.000 It's faith.

00:55:05.000 It's a faith.

00:55:05.000 You have the right to believe in what you want to believe in.

00:55:08.000 What I'm saying is that there is objective morality and objective truth.

00:55:12.000 Yes.

00:55:12.000 And that it would be nice if the incentive structures in the United States and the West largely would bend towards objective truth.

00:55:18.000 You know, I don't think being, let me let you get this in, Ryan, but let me say this for a second.

00:55:21.000 I don't think being gay is corrosive to the soul so much as getting it on with too many people.

00:55:26.000 And maybe guys, because they're testosterone, get it on more than girls. 0.97

00:55:30.000 And two gay dudes might get it on the ground. 1.00

00:55:31.000 No, I think is the reason why part of the reason why the multiple partners has such a promiscuous thing about it is because there isn't the mediating factor of women, right? 1.00

00:55:44.000 Like women are like the hold on. 1.00

00:55:47.000 Women are the gatekeepers of sex. 1.00

00:55:49.000 When you take women out of it, you end up with an extremely promised. 1.00

00:55:52.000 More carnal.

00:55:53.000 Promiscism can cause corrosivity.

00:55:55.000 I mean, if you believe in the virtue of chastity, which is like save it for your woman or save it for your partner.

00:56:02.000 I've heard people say that gay men and gay women don't raise children as well as a man and a woman does.

00:56:07.000 I've heard all sorts of theories.

00:56:09.000 And here's the bottom line.

00:56:10.000 I've seen straight men and straight women horrible parents.

00:56:13.000 I'm sure you guys would agree.

00:56:14.000 It's a case-by-case basis.

00:56:17.000 And I just get frustrated when people make judgments about an entire group of people because they might not be like trans.

00:56:25.000 Do you not think that children have a right to a father and a mother?

00:56:29.000 I think children have a right to parents.

00:56:31.000 And a father and a mother are important?

00:56:34.000 I think parents are very important.

00:56:35.000 Of course.

00:56:37.000 Whether it's a father.

00:56:38.000 I'm specifically asking.

00:56:39.000 Yes.

00:56:40.000 Do you think that the best option for children is to have a mother and a father?

00:56:45.000 I think if it's two fathers or two mothers, I'd be just as fine as you can.

00:56:49.000 It's a case-by-case basis.

00:56:50.000 Do not think that children are better served when there is a father and a mother. 0.96

00:56:54.000 You think that it is fine if it is two mothers or two fathers?

00:56:58.000 I mean, if you could show me a study that shows otherwise, then I'd be open to looking at it.

00:57:02.000 No, I answered you.

00:57:04.000 There's a lot of men and women that are horrible parents out there. 0.97

00:57:07.000 And I can also tell you that there are gay parents that are wonderful parents. 0.97

00:57:10.000 It's a case-by-case basis.

00:57:11.000 And I don't think their sexuality has anything to do with it.

00:57:13.000 The original question is, do the parents, sorry, do children have a right to a father and a mother for the same reason that it's like, yes, it's a tragedy for the child when they are raised in like a single-parent household.

00:57:24.000 It's unfortunate.

00:57:24.000 It's not.

00:57:25.000 That's what I think is a more important issue than what we're talking about.

00:57:28.000 Because it's the same thing.

00:57:29.000 It's like because you need that masculine, feminine influence when you're growing up.

00:57:32.000 No, I don't think it's the same thing.

00:57:33.000 When you're raised by one parent, as opposed to being raised by two parents, two that happen to be men or two happen to be women.

00:57:39.000 I don't think that's the same thing at all.

00:57:40.000 So you think three parents is even better?

00:57:43.000 No, I didn't say that either.

00:57:44.000 Well, then what's so special about two?

00:57:46.000 What's so spe I well, what do you mean, what's so special about two?

00:57:49.000 Because you're against three parents, and then you say one parent, as you say, three parents and a lot of people.

00:57:54.000 Some kids have three parents.

00:57:55.000 A lot of kids have three parents.

00:57:56.000 They're stepfathers, their stepmothers.

00:57:57.000 I mean, there's a lot of situations.

00:57:59.000 No, that's completely different.

00:58:00.000 That's a good argument, Tay.

00:58:01.000 I think it's the duality of man and woman that make baby that makes us think that it's important to have two parents. 0.99

00:58:07.000 No, it is because, again, as a human being, you need a mother, you need a father.

00:58:11.000 Fathers and this is not, I mean, I come, you know, my household, you know, there's, it's not optimal.

00:58:17.000 I love my parents.

00:58:18.000 I have a father and a mother, and I have kids.

00:58:20.000 I do not.

00:58:22.000 My father and mother are terrific.

00:58:23.000 And what I'm saying, what I was alluding to, is that without both of their influences, I don't know if it would turn out.

00:58:28.000 Maybe it would turn out okay.

00:58:29.000 And that's great.

00:58:30.000 I feel the same way about my parents.

00:58:32.000 And I would want that for every child.

00:58:33.000 All I can tell you is that there are kids out there that grow up to be pretty awesome people, and they have two fathers and two mothers.

00:58:39.000 And, you know, I guess it goes back to the original argument that I was trying to make is that I don't want to interfere in other people's lives.

00:58:46.000 I want people to be happy.

00:58:48.000 I don't care what their sexuality is. 0.81

00:58:50.000 You know, that's kind of fundamentally my personal opinion on where I stand on all this stuff.

00:58:56.000 I just want people, stay out of people's private lives.

00:58:58.000 I just don't think that society has benefited from telling people yes to everything.

00:59:02.000 Everything has gone backwards.

00:59:04.000 Everything's gotten worse.

00:59:04.000 People need guardrails.

00:59:06.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:59:07.000 And it doesn't seem like our president has many guardrails.

00:59:09.000 No, I think we need.

00:59:11.000 I think we need guardrails.

00:59:12.000 No, but of course we need guardrails.

00:59:16.000 You just said we don't.

00:59:17.000 You just said whatever happens behind closed doors.

00:59:18.000 No, no, no, no.

00:59:19.000 That's the opposite of it.

00:59:20.000 Guardrails, what I'm talking about is somebody's sexuality. 0.95

00:59:24.000 Whether they want to be gay or straight.

00:59:25.000 Sexuality has guardrails. 0.97

00:59:26.000 That's why rape is illegal. 1.00

00:59:28.000 That's why.

00:59:29.000 Peculiarity is like disadvantage.

00:59:31.000 That's bad for you.

00:59:32.000 I'm not comparing. 0.99

00:59:33.000 I'm not talking about rape to somebody who happens to be gay. 0.89

00:59:36.000 Those are two completely different things. 0.81

00:59:37.000 No, I didn't say.

00:59:38.000 You were saying that.

00:59:39.000 Obviously, you're arguing that we don't need guardrails, but we do need guardrails.

00:59:42.000 I'm not sure if you're what's going on.

00:59:43.000 When it comes to raping somebody and breaking the law, we're not, right?

00:59:46.000 But we're talking about homosexuality and parenting. 0.91

00:59:49.000 I agree.

00:59:50.000 It's not that.

00:59:50.000 That's in a totally different realm of conversation.

00:59:52.000 What I was saying is that, yes, you do believe in guardrails.

00:59:55.000 And so. 0.82

00:59:55.000 Well, of course you can't break the law and rape people and sexually assault them. 0.82

00:59:58.000 Right.

00:59:59.000 So for trying to achieve the best possible sort of flourishment for human beings, guardrails are important because people, when left to their own devices, it's very rare that someone's going to make the best possible decision.

01:00:10.000 That's why the United States government.

01:00:11.000 That's why I like hard drugs are illegal because unfortunately, when people get addicted to heroin, they can't help but get more heroin.

01:00:17.000 Like it's possible.

01:00:18.000 It's something, again, that's the problem.

01:00:19.000 We are not doing a good enough job in this country when it comes to addiction in general.

01:00:24.000 And I agree with you.

01:00:24.000 But if someone's doing heroin in the privacy of their own home, why do you care?

01:00:27.000 It doesn't affect you.

01:00:28.000 Well, first of all, we're talking about sex and we're talking about sex and what they do in the bedroom.

01:00:37.000 I was not referring to doing drugs, which can kill you.

01:00:41.000 That's a lot of poor outcome for your life.

01:00:42.000 Those are two completely different things.

01:00:44.000 So in one instance, you are advocating for the government to intervene when the outcome of someone's life is threatened.

01:00:49.000 But in the realm of sexuality, it's completely irrelevant.

01:00:52.000 Yeah, because when two men or two women are having sex, I would never compare that to somebody that's taking heroin.

01:00:57.000 But if you can say that those are two different things.

01:01:00.000 If it's like, okay, the argument generally from the right that I've discerned over the last few years is that you have to protect children from devious parents, people that would sexually abuse their children or whatever.

01:01:10.000 So if people are getting sexualized imagery and metaphors and ideas into like eight-year-olds and seven to six-year-olds, of course that's wrong.

01:01:17.000 And they're concerned that just by bringing up transgender, you are bringing up sexuality to a six-year-old that it's yeah.

01:01:24.000 And for the TV to do it, a corporation to have commercials about it, it's like, homie, that's the argument. 0.98

01:01:31.000 I have a hard time refuting it because I think we need censorship.

01:01:34.000 It just needs to be righteous.

01:01:35.000 You need to agree as a society what to censor when and where and what to protect kids.

01:01:39.000 You don't want them to see blown open body parts on TV.

01:01:42.000 Right.

01:01:42.000 Well, again, because censorship is something that comes into place when you are trying to guide specifically children towards the best possible outcome.

01:01:49.000 That's parenting.

01:01:50.000 Well, it's parenting, but the state has, because the parents can't be in control of everything.

01:01:53.000 Yeah, I don't believe of the 300,000 teachers that are in this country that there's a lot of teachers out there that are telling eight and nine-year-olds that they should be transgender or you should or that.

01:02:02.000 So you've said that the only reason that we're seeing LGBT identification double issues.

01:02:08.000 Didn't you say it was the only reason?

01:02:09.000 Because it's socially acceptable.

01:02:10.000 Yeah, I didn't say it was the only reason, but I can tell you that I know, well, I can tell you that a lot of people that I know that happen to be gay have told me that they felt very uncomfortable to come out 10, 15, 20 years ago, and they do feel more comfortable to come out now.

01:02:23.000 I'm not saying it's the only reason.

01:02:24.000 I'm not even saying maybe it's the main reason, but it's certainly one of the reasons.

01:02:27.000 And I've talked to people about that.

01:02:29.000 There's a lot of people that.

01:02:30.000 Hey, we're going to jump this here.

01:02:32.000 We're going to go to the president's remarks right now.

01:02:36.000 Good evening, America.

01:02:37.000 11 months ago, I inherited a mess, and I'm fixing it.

01:02:42.000 When I took office, inflation was the worst in 48 years, and some would say in the history of our country, which caused prices to be higher than ever before, making life unaffordable for millions and millions of Americans.

01:02:57.000 This happened during a Democrat administration, and it's when we first began hearing the word affordability.

01:03:05.000 Our border was open, and because of this, our country was being invaded by an army of 25 million people, many who came from prisons and jails, mental institutions, and insane asylums. 0.99

01:03:19.000 They were drug dealers, gang members, and even 11,888 murderers, more than 50% of whom killed more than one person.

01:03:30.000 This is what the Biden administration allowed to happen to our country, and it can never be allowed to happen again.

01:03:38.000 We had men playing in women's sports, transgender for everybody, crime at record levels with law enforcement and words such as that just absolutely forbidden.

01:03:51.000 We had the worst trade deals ever made, and our country was laughed at from all over the world.

01:03:57.000 But they're not laughing anymore.

01:04:00.000 Over the past 11 months, we have brought more positive change to Washington than any administration in American history.

01:04:09.000 There has never been anything like it.

01:04:12.000 And I think most would agree.

01:04:14.000 I was elected in a landslide winning the popular vote and all seven swing states and everything else with a mandate to take on a sick and corrupt system that really just took the wealth from people and crushed the dreams of the American people.

01:04:34.000 For the last four years, the United States was ruled by politicians who fought only for insiders, illegal aliens, career criminals, corporate lobbyists, prisoners, terrorists, and above all, foreign nations, which took advantage of us at levels never seen before. 0.58

01:04:52.000 They flooded your cities and towns with illegal aliens. 0.97

01:04:56.000 They decimated your hard-earned savings.

01:04:59.000 They indoctrinated your children with hate for America.

01:05:03.000 Really, I mean, they just released a level of violent felons that we had never seen to prey on innocent.

01:05:11.000 They caused war. 0.99

01:05:12.000 They caused mayhem.

01:05:14.000 They caused a horrible situation all over the globe.

01:05:18.000 But now you have a president who fights for the law-abiding, hard-working people of our country, the ones who make this nation run, who make this nation work.

01:05:29.000 And after just one year, we have achieved more than anyone could have imagined.

01:05:34.000 Starting on day one, I took immediate action to stop the invasion of our southern border.

01:05:39.000 For the past seven months, zero illegal aliens have been allowed into our country, a feat which everyone said was absolutely impossible.

01:05:48.000 Do you remember when Joe Biden said that he needed Congress to pass legislation to help close the border?

01:05:55.000 He was always blaming Congress and everyone else.

01:05:58.000 As it turned out, we didn't need legislation.

01:06:01.000 We just needed a new president.

01:06:04.000 We inherited the worst border anywhere in the world, and we quickly turned it into the strongest border in the history of our country.

01:06:11.000 In other words, in a few short months, we went from worst to best.

01:06:17.000 We're deporting criminals, restoring safety to our most dangerous cities.

01:06:22.000 Just take a look at Washington, D.C.

01:06:25.000 It's at levels of safety that we've never seen before.

01:06:30.000 And they decimated the bloodthirsty foreign drug cartels.

01:06:34.000 We did that all by ourselves with our people, and we're so proud of it because they were poisoning and destroying our population. 1.00

01:06:43.000 Drugs brought in by ocean and by sea are now down 94%.

01:06:50.000 We have broken the grip of sinister woke radicals in our schools, and control over those schools is back now in the hands of our great and loving states where education belongs.

01:07:03.000 After rebuilding the United States military in my first term, and with the addition we are adding right now, we have the most powerful military anywhere in the world, and it's not even close.

01:07:17.000 I've restored American strength, settled eight wars in 10 months, destroyed the Iran nuclear threat, and ended the war in Gaza, bringing for the first time in 3,000 years peace to the Middle East and secured the release of the hostages, both living and dead.

01:07:36.000 Here at home, we're bringing our economy back from the brink of ruin.

01:07:40.000 The last administration and their allies in Congress looted our Treasury for trillions of dollars, driving up prices and everything at levels never seen before.

01:07:50.000 I am bringing those high prices down and bringing them down very fast.

01:07:56.000 Let's look at the facts.

01:07:58.000 Under the Biden administration, car prices rose 22 percent and in many states, 30 percent or more.

01:08:05.000 Gasoline rose 30 to 50 percent.

01:08:08.000 Hotel rates rose 37 percent.

01:08:11.000 Air fares rose 31 percent.

01:08:13.000 Now, under our leadership, they are all coming down and coming down fast.

01:08:18.000 Democrat politicians also sent the cost of groceries soaring, but we are solving that too.

01:08:24.000 The price of a Thanksgiving turkey was down 33 percent compared to the Biden last year.

01:08:31.000 The price of eggs is down 82 percent since March, and everything else is falling rapidly.

01:08:37.000 Anyone else feel like this is not done yet, but boy, are we making progress?

01:08:41.000 Nobody can believe what's going on.

01:08:44.000 Here are just some of the efforts that we have underway.

01:08:47.000 You will see in your wallets and bank accounts in the new year.

01:08:51.000 After years of record-setting falling incomes, our policies are boosting take-home pay at a historic pace.

01:08:58.000 Under Biden, real wages plummeted by $3,000.

01:09:04.000 Under Trump, the typical factory worker is seeing a wage increase of $1,300.

01:09:09.000 For construction workers, it's $1,800.

01:09:13.000 For miners, we're bringing back clean, beautiful coal.

01:09:17.000 It's $3,300.

01:09:20.000 And for the first time in years, wages are rising much faster than inflation.

01:09:26.000 Remember that.

01:09:28.000 Wages, just look at it.

01:09:29.000 Wages are going up much faster than inflation.

01:09:34.000 How big is that?

01:09:35.000 Very importantly, there are more people working today than at any time in American history, and 100% of all jobs created since I took office have been in the private sector.

01:09:47.000 Think of that.

01:09:48.000 100% of all jobs have been in the private sector rather than government, which is the only way to make a country powerful and great.

01:10:00.000 This historic trend will continue.

01:10:01.000 Already, I've secured a record-breaking $18 trillion of investment into the United States, which means jobs, wage increases, growth, factory openings, and far greater national security.

01:10:15.000 Much of this success has been accomplished by tariffs.

01:10:20.000 My favorite word, tariffs, which for many decades have been used successfully by other countries against us, but not anymore.

01:10:29.000 Companies know that if they build in America, there are no tariffs, and that's why they're coming home to the USA in record numbers.

01:10:37.000 They're building factories and plants at levels we haven't seen, AI, automobiles.

01:10:43.000 We're doing what nobody thought was even possible, not even remotely possible.

01:10:48.000 There has never, frankly, been anything like it.

01:10:52.000 One year ago, our country was dead.

01:10:54.000 We were absolutely dead.

01:10:56.000 Our country was ready to fail, totally failed.

01:11:00.000 Now, we're the hottest country anywhere in the world.

01:11:04.000 And that's said by every single leader that I've spoken to over the last five months.

01:11:09.000 Next year, you will also see the results of the largest tax cuts in American history that were really accomplished through our great, big, beautiful bill, perhaps the most sweeping legislation ever passed in Congress.

01:11:24.000 We wrapped 12 different bills up into one beautiful bill.

01:11:28.000 That includes no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security for our great seniors.

01:11:37.000 Under these cuts, many families will be saving between $11,000 and $20,000 a year, and next spring is projected to be the largest tax refund season of all time.

01:11:50.000 Because of tariffs, along with the just-passed one big, beautiful bill, tonight I am also proud to announce that more than 1,450,000, think of this, 1,450,000 military service members will receive a special, we call, warrior dividend before Christmas, a warrior dividend.

01:12:15.000 In honor of our nation's founding in 1776, we are sending every soldier $1,776.

01:12:26.000 Think of that.

01:12:28.000 And the checks are already on the way.

01:12:31.000 Nobody understood that one until about 30 minutes ago.

01:12:35.000 We made a lot more money than anybody thought because of tariffs, and the bill helped us along.

01:12:40.000 Nobody deserves it more than our military.

01:12:43.000 And I say congratulations to everybody.

01:12:45.000 And by the way, we now have record enlistment in our military.

01:12:49.000 And last year we had among the worst recruitment numbers in our military's history.

01:12:54.000 What a difference a year makes.

01:12:56.000 In addition, I'm doing what no politician of either party has ever done, standing up to the special interest to dramatically reduce the price of prescription drugs.

01:13:06.000 I negotiated directly with the drug companies and foreign nations, which were taking advantage of our country for many decades, to slash prices on drugs and pharmaceuticals by as much as 400, 500, and even 600 percent.

01:13:23.000 In other words, your drug costs will be plummeting downward.

01:13:26.000 And I use the threat of tariffs to get foreign countries who would never have done it to pay the cost of this giant dollar reduction.

01:13:35.000 They stop ripping us off.

01:13:37.000 And it began as of four days ago.

01:13:40.000 You can't cut this.

01:13:41.000 There's never been anything like this in the history of our country.

01:13:44.000 Drugs have only gone up, but now they'll be going down by numbers never conceived possible.

01:13:51.000 It's called Most Favored Nation.

01:13:53.000 The new cost of the National Party.

01:13:54.000 And no president has ever had the courage or ability to get this done until now.

01:13:59.000 The first of these unprecedented price reductions will be available starting in January through a new website, trumprx.gov.

01:14:08.000 And these big price cuts will greatly reduce the cost of health care.

01:14:12.000 I'm also taking on the gigantic health insurance companies that have gotten rich on billions of dollars of money that should go directly to the people.

01:14:22.000 The money should go to the people.

01:14:24.000 That's you.

01:14:25.000 So they can buy their own health insurance, which will give far better benefits at much lower costs.

01:14:31.000 It will be far better health insurance.

01:14:34.000 The current Unaffordable Care Act was created to make insurance companies rich.

01:14:39.000 It was bad health care at much too high a cost.

01:14:43.000 And you see that now in the steep increase in premiums being demanded by the Democrats.

01:14:48.000 And they are demanding those increases.

01:14:50.000 And it's their fault.

01:14:51.000 It is not the Republicans' fault.

01:14:53.000 It's the Democrats' fault.

01:14:56.000 It's the Unaffordable Care Act, and everybody knew it.

01:15:00.000 Again, I want the money to go directly to the people so you can buy your own health care.

01:15:04.000 You'll get much better health care at a much lower price.

01:15:08.000 The only losers will be insurance companies that have gotten rich and the Democrat Party, which is totally controlled by those same insurance companies.

01:15:16.000 They will not be happy, but that's okay with me because you, the people, are finally going to be getting great health care at a lower cost.

01:15:24.000 Another major focus is the cost of energy.

01:15:28.000 For years, the radical left Democrats exploited the green energy scam as an excuse to funnel many billions of dollars into their own massive slush funds as their energy restrictions drastically drove up prices and they drove them up at record levels.

01:15:45.000 Electricity costs surged 30 to 100 percent under Biden, and the typical family lost $5,000 to $10,000 in higher energy costs.

01:15:55.000 Think of that $5,000 to $10,000 you lost.

01:15:59.000 On day one, I declared a national energy emergency.

01:16:03.000 Gasoline is now under $2.50 a gallon in much of the country.

01:16:08.000 In some states, it, by the way, just hit $1.99 a gallon.

01:16:14.000 And within the next 12 months, we will have opened 1,600 new electrical generating plants, a record, and it's a record that won't be beaten by practically, I would say by anybody, or certainly not very soon.

01:16:28.000 Prices on electricity and everything else will fall dramatically.

01:16:32.000 The Democrat inflation disaster, again, the worst in the history of our country, also robbed millions of Americans of home ownership and indeed the American dream.

01:16:43.000 The yearly cost of a typical new mortgage increased by $15,000 under Democrat rule.

01:16:51.000 In 11 months, we've already gotten that annual cost down by $3,000, and it's coming down a lot lower.

01:16:58.000 Way do you see?

01:16:59.000 The numbers are going to be shocking.

01:17:01.000 And I'll soon announce our next chairman of the Federal Reserve, someone who believes in lower interest rates by a lot, and mortgage payments will be coming down even further.

01:17:12.000 Early the new year, and you will see this.

01:17:15.000 In the new year, I will announce some of the most aggressive housing reform plans in American history.

01:17:22.000 A major factor in driving up housing costs was the colossal border invasion.

01:17:27.000 We have never been invaded.

01:17:29.000 This is the worst thing that, frankly, in my opinion, the worst thing that the Biden administration did to our country is the invasion at the border.

01:17:40.000 The last administration and their allies in Congress brought in millions and millions of migrants and gave them taxpayer-funded housing, while your rent and housing costs skyrocketed.

01:17:51.000 Over 60% of growth in the rental market came from foreign migrants.

01:17:56.000 At the same time, illegal aliens stole American jobs and flooded emergency rooms, getting free health care and education paid for by you, the American taxpayer. 0.92

01:18:06.000 They also increased the cost of law enforcement by numbers so high that they are not even to be mentioned.

01:18:13.000 For the first time in 50 years, we are now seeing reverse migration as migrants go back home, leaving more housing and more jobs for Americans.

01:18:23.000 In the year before my election, all net creation of jobs was going to foreign migrants.

01:18:30.000 Since I took office, 100% of all net job creation has gone to American-born citizens.

01:18:39.000 100%.

01:18:41.000 In the end, government either serves the productive, patriotic, hardworking American citizen or it serves those who break the laws, cheat the system, and seek power and profit at the expense of our nation.

01:18:56.000 Look at Minnesota, where Somalians have taken over the economics of the state and have stolen billions and billions of dollars from Minnesota and indeed from the United States of America. 1.00

01:19:07.000 And we're going to put an end to it.

01:19:09.000 For so long as before my election, the vast majority of good and decent Americans were forced to watch as corrupt politicians plundered the halls of power, exploited our taxpayers, and pillaged every system that makes civilized society function.

01:19:26.000 But not anymore.

01:19:27.000 And you see that every day, not anymore.

01:19:30.000 We're putting America first and we are making America great again.

01:19:34.000 Very simple.

01:19:35.000 We are making America great again.

01:19:38.000 Tonight, after 11 months, our border is secure.

01:19:41.000 Inflation has stopped.

01:19:43.000 Wages are up.

01:19:44.000 Prices are down.

01:19:45.000 Our nation is strong.

01:19:47.000 America is respected.

01:19:49.000 And our country is back stronger than ever before.

01:19:54.000 We're poised for an economic boom, the likes of which the world has never seen.

01:19:59.000 Soon we will host the World Cup and the Olympics, both of which I got.

01:20:04.000 But most importantly, we will celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

01:20:11.000 There could be no more fitting tribute to this epic milestone than to complete the comeback of America that began just one year ago.

01:20:22.000 When the world looks at us next year, let them see a nation that is loyal to its citizens, faithful to its workers, confident to its identity, certain to its destiny, and the envy of the entire globe.

01:20:37.000 We are respected again like we have never been respected before.

01:20:42.000 To each and every one of you, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

01:20:47.000 God bless you all.

01:20:49.000 So true.

01:20:50.000 Well, that was basically a long-winded way of announcing the Warrior dividend.

01:20:53.000 Yeah, I mean, essentially, I mean, I'm a little surprised.

01:20:57.000 I was expecting it to be about Venezuela.

01:20:59.000 I knew it was not going to be.

01:21:01.000 You thought it was going to be a glaze fest?

01:21:02.000 Yeah, self-glaze and then announce like something cool.

01:21:05.000 And so the warrior dividend.

01:21:06.000 Yeah.

01:21:07.000 I actually kind of agree with it personally, the warrior dividend, $1,776.76 or something like that.

01:21:14.000 I think that the reason he's doing it is because he's paying them from the tariffs that we've created.

01:21:18.000 And the reason our tariffs are effective is because of our military force, the threat of our military force.

01:21:23.000 The military has a lot to do with that.

01:21:25.000 A lot of our way of life lies on the backs of those people.

01:21:28.000 So especially the way that some of them had to resign through the COVID, whatever you want to call it, experience because they weren't getting vaccinated.

01:21:36.000 They refused and they'd be discharged.

01:21:38.000 So this is wonderful.

01:21:39.000 I'm not even like, I don't want to go conquer the earth or anything like that, but that was a very nice thing to hear.

01:21:44.000 Well, I think we all could probably agree that facts do matter.

01:21:48.000 And I just quickly just wrote down all the lies.

01:21:51.000 First of all, he said, quote, all prices are coming down.

01:21:54.000 I just want to remind everybody that inflation has gone up for the fifth straight month in a row.

01:22:00.000 He bragged about job growth.

01:22:01.000 Inflation is not prices, though.

01:22:04.000 I understand that, but inflation has gone up five months in a row.

01:22:07.000 And by the way, all prices are not coming down.

01:22:09.000 Just ask people that go to the grocery store.

01:22:11.000 There are some eggs and some other things, but not all prices are coming down.

01:22:15.000 Also, he bragged about the job growth.

01:22:17.000 We had some of the worst private sector job growth.

01:22:20.000 It has been abysmal.

01:22:21.000 He talked about unemployment, which is incredible because when Joe Biden left office, it was at 4.1%.

01:22:28.000 It's now at 4.7%.

01:22:30.000 So we want to do that.

01:22:31.000 Isn't there the reason that the unemployment is higher is because of a lot of the cuts that have been made to the government?

01:22:36.000 That's a part of it.

01:22:37.000 But when you say that the unemployment numbers are at all-time high, all-time lows, it's a lie.

01:22:44.000 And when he talks about peace in the Middle East, he said that.

01:22:47.000 And then the next day, Hamas and Israel broke the ceasefire agreement.

01:22:52.000 There is not peace in the Middle East. 0.86

01:22:53.000 Hamas was going door to door executing people.

01:22:56.000 I can kind of go behind that one.

01:22:58.000 We finally saw 3,000-year-old school Palestinians, right?

01:23:01.000 He said that there was peace in Gaza.

01:23:03.000 There is not peace in Gaza.

01:23:04.000 There is not that in the Middle East. 0.99

01:23:06.000 But that's not war with Israel anymore.

01:23:08.000 That's Gaza executing Palestinians. 0.81

01:23:10.000 But when you say there is peace in the Middle East and when Israel breaks a ceasefire and Hamas breaks a ceasefire, that is not my definition of peace.

01:23:20.000 When he keeps saying that.

01:23:21.000 But again, I think that what you're talking about is a different thing. 0.96

01:23:24.000 Hamas is killing Palestinians.

01:23:26.000 That's not, I mean, unless you're making the argument that Hamas is actually having a war against Palestinians.

01:23:31.000 I am a colony.

01:23:32.000 Somebody says there's peace in the Middle East. 1.00

01:23:34.000 Again, if you're talking about Hamas killing Palestinians, that's not war.

01:23:39.000 That's Hamas killing Palestinians because that's essentially the governing body because they've been elected in Gaza, but that's Hamas killing their own people. 0.66

01:23:49.000 My definition of peace in the Middle East would be not breaking a ceasefire, which Israel and Hamas did. 0.56

01:23:55.000 There is not peace in Gaza, like he said.

01:23:57.000 He also said we're giving all these tax cuts, the biggest in American history.

01:24:01.000 Well, he mentioned the big and beautiful bill, and I mentioned $100 billion in tax cuts this year to the top 1%.

01:24:07.000 And he also said checks are on the way.

01:24:09.000 Hmm.

01:24:09.000 I remember Doge saying that we were all going to get $5,000 checks.

01:24:13.000 Do you remember that when Trump was bragging about that?

01:24:15.000 Did you guys ever get that check?

01:24:16.000 I never got a $5,000 check from Doge, but I'm sure those checks are coming.

01:24:20.000 And then he mentions health care.

01:24:21.000 Okay, so you're saying that that's not going to happen.

01:24:23.000 You can't really say that it's a lie if he's talking about something in the future.

01:24:26.000 Well, I've named you a few lies, but now I'm going to say that.

01:24:29.000 I mean, you said, let's list all his lies.

01:24:32.000 You're saying that the future is going to be a lie.

01:24:34.000 So I don't know that the checks are on their way.

01:24:36.000 I believe that's okay.

01:24:37.000 I don't believe we're getting checks that are on the way.

01:24:39.000 Well, we're not getting.

01:24:40.000 I'm not in the military, but he said that it's going to military.

01:24:42.000 I understand.

01:24:43.000 I just don't believe anything he says.

01:24:44.000 Well, you know, he says.

01:24:46.000 You could wrap it all up by just saying, well, everything was a lie.

01:24:49.000 I want to pay, you know, you're going to be paying for your own health care.

01:24:51.000 Can you tell us what that plan is?

01:24:52.000 How exactly are we going to be doing that?

01:24:54.000 It's funny how he doesn't have a plan, right?

01:24:56.000 He just says, everything's going to be great.

01:24:57.000 You're going to pay for your own health care.

01:24:59.000 Okay.

01:25:00.000 Well, how are we going to go about doing that?

01:25:01.000 I thought that the requirements.

01:25:02.000 Well, generally, the president doesn't actually come out and say, oh, here's the details of the plan when he makes an announcement like that.

01:25:07.000 Well, he did say that in his first administration.

01:25:09.000 Remember when he said the plan is coming in a month?

01:25:11.000 The plan is coming in two weeks.

01:25:12.000 The plan is coming in two months?

01:25:14.000 He said that multiple times.

01:25:15.000 There have been multiple presidents that would announce a program and then they wouldn't get into the details.

01:25:19.000 Right, but they're that's pretty standard fair for him.

01:25:22.000 I don't think it's standard for a president to bitch and complain about a policy put forth by the Democrats in Obamacare and then not have a replacement plan in nine years. 0.99

01:25:28.000 That is not a serious policymaker, and we all know that.

01:25:31.000 The country is stronger than it's ever been before, he said.

01:25:35.000 In the military.

01:25:36.000 Okay, according to the military, maybe, but according to the parameters of where the economy is at and many other factors.

01:25:42.000 But he was talking about it in the context of the military.

01:25:44.000 Okay, well, I would also argue that there's a lot of people within the military and a lot of people that feel like they've committed war crimes with these boats that we can get into.

01:25:52.000 That's not talking about whether or not the military is strong.

01:25:54.000 And you're the one that's saying that this is strong.

01:25:56.000 The military is stronger than it's ever been.

01:25:58.000 He said the country is stronger than it's ever been.

01:26:00.000 So when I hear a president say the country is stronger than it's ever been, I don't think he's just referring to our military.

01:26:05.000 He's referring to the definition of the word strong.

01:26:08.000 If we're going to break this one open, it would be like, what did he mean?

01:26:11.000 And how accurate is it?

01:26:12.000 And this is what Donald Trump always does when it comes to gas prices, for example.

01:26:16.000 Any president could do this.

01:26:18.000 He picks a few states in the country where gas prices are low, okay?

01:26:23.000 And he makes it sound like the gas prices are $2.50 across the country.

01:26:28.000 He specifically said in some places, it's not like you were saying.

01:26:31.000 But it's the national average then.

01:26:33.000 The national average is lower now than it was last year.

01:26:35.000 I understand it is.

01:26:36.000 But what he does is he picks apart certain states to make it sound like everyone's doing hunky-dory great.

01:26:41.000 Now, if you talk to the American people, most people in this country are not happy with the economy.

01:26:46.000 They're not happy with the unemployment numbers.

01:26:47.000 You're happy with lower gas prices?

01:26:49.000 National average lower gas prices, too.

01:26:51.000 But if you ask in most polls, and they are you happy with what Donald Trump is doing when it comes to the economy.

01:26:56.000 You were talking about gas prices.

01:26:58.000 Specifically, right there, I was talking about how he picks apart a few states here and there and says the average price in these states is $2.50.

01:27:05.000 And the point that I'm trying to make is, okay.

01:27:06.000 If you want to give the national average out and take credit for that, fine.

01:27:09.000 even though I would argue that I don't think any president controls the gas prices.

01:27:13.000 In fact, during Joe Biden's administration...

01:27:15.000 If he doesn't control the gas prices, then why are you bringing it up?

01:27:17.000 I'm bringing it up because he likes to pick apart certain states in the country where gas is $2.50, which I think is very difficult.

01:27:24.000 They're making an example.

01:27:25.000 He's saying, well, this is an example of the good things that my family is.

01:27:28.000 Again, this is what Donald Trump does. 0.71

01:27:29.000 And illegal, illegal immigrants. 1.00

01:27:32.000 He was complaining about illegal immigrants going to the ER.

01:27:35.000 Let me ask you guys a question in the big and beautiful bill, since he thinks that's a huge issue.

01:27:38.000 In the big and beautiful bill, 20 million Americans are going to lose their Medicaid coverage.

01:27:42.000 What's going to happen when those Americans lose their health care coverage?

01:27:45.000 Where do you think they're going to go?

01:27:47.000 I'm trying to explain it to you.

01:27:48.000 Where do you think they're going to go when they get sick and they can't afford their medicine?

01:27:51.000 Everyone goes to the ER when they get sick.

01:27:53.000 Right, exactly.

01:27:53.000 So if you have 20 million Americans that are going to be losing their Medicaid coverage, I think we could agree.

01:27:58.000 A lot of those Americans that need insulin and other things, they're going to get sick.

01:28:01.000 They're going to go to the ER.

01:28:02.000 Who pays for that? 1.00

01:28:03.000 Do you go to the ER if you need to get insulin?

01:28:05.000 Absolutely.

01:28:05.000 So if you can't, and I'm a diabetic, so I can tell you this for sure.

01:28:09.000 There have been times where I didn't have insulin on me or it got stolen or it got lost.

01:28:13.000 The first thing that I do is go to a quick care or an ER and say, hey, I need insulin.

01:28:16.000 My blood sugar is blah, I know this from experience.

01:28:19.000 If people can't afford their insulin, they're going to get sick.

01:28:23.000 But if you have to take insulin, you have to take it every day multiple times a day, right?

01:28:27.000 Absolutely.

01:28:27.000 Yeah, so I mean, do you think they're just going to live at the ER?

01:28:30.000 Do I think they're going to constantly?

01:28:32.000 Do I think they're going to just hear because they're not going to be able to do that?

01:28:33.000 I didn't say they're going to live at the ER, but what I did say is a lot of these people are going to get sick that desperately need their health care coverage.

01:28:40.000 And the American taxpayer is the one that's going to pay for it when they don't have health care.

01:28:43.000 The American taxpayer already pays for anyone that goes to the ER that doesn't have health care.

01:28:47.000 I understand that, but when 20 million Americans are on Medicaid right now, many of those Americans are going to get sick.

01:28:53.000 They're not going to be able to afford their medications.

01:28:55.000 They're not going to be on health care coverage.

01:28:57.000 And the American taxpayer is the one that's going to have to pay for it.

01:29:00.000 That's why American taxpayers paying for Medicare. 0.91

01:29:01.000 Well, I understand that.

01:29:03.000 And this is also why.

01:29:04.000 And this is also why this speech was directionally correct, because the main thing he was hitting on was the success of the tariffs and the success of his immigration policy, his deportation policy.

01:29:16.000 And a good way to free up resources, obviously, with emergency rooms is by removing people from the country that shouldn't have access to those.

01:29:23.000 So do you think if you're an undocumented immigrant in this country and you're deathly ill that we shouldn't help you in the ER? 0.87

01:29:29.000 You shouldn't get help.

01:29:30.000 No, you shouldn't be in the United States.

01:29:31.000 You shouldn't be in the United States. 0.99

01:29:32.000 But I'm just asking you in general.

01:29:33.000 Obviously, we're not going to get rid of every undocumented immigrant that's here.

01:29:36.000 Right.

01:29:37.000 I'm saying that's why I said it's the best way to free up resources.

01:29:41.000 Do you think if you're living here 20 or 30 years?

01:29:44.000 If you're an illegal immigrant, you should be sent. 1.00

01:29:46.000 Again, you're arguing.

01:29:48.000 There's no pathway to citizenship, even if you're someone who's in the country.

01:29:52.000 So if you serve in the military, you have a pathway to citizenship, first of all.

01:29:56.000 Second of all, if you're an illegal immigrant, you should be sent home. 1.00

01:29:59.000 Yes.

01:30:00.000 So I disagree with you.

01:30:01.000 I think there should be a pathway to citizenship, especially for those that are nonviolent criminals that have lived here for decades and pay taxes.

01:30:07.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:30:08.000 So they might disagree about that.

01:30:10.000 But, you know, going back to the Medicare stuff, yeah.

01:30:13.000 But either, but like you said, either way, the American people are going to pay for it either, whether they're paying for Medicare or they're paying for them going to the emergency room.

01:30:20.000 The American people are paying for it.

01:30:21.000 So it's a mutant.

01:30:21.000 It's not really.

01:30:22.000 He didn't bring up Venezuela.

01:30:23.000 He didn't bring up the boat strikes.

01:30:26.000 He didn't really go into detail about any health care plan.

01:30:28.000 And we know the Obama subsidies, which, by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, seven Republicans voted to extend the Obama subsidies.

01:30:35.000 Democrats.

01:30:36.000 The Democrats made them end this year.

01:30:37.000 The Democrats voted in the bill that made them end this year.

01:30:40.000 Mike Johnson announced yesterday that they don't have a plan.

01:30:44.000 So if you don't have a plan.

01:30:45.000 No, the Democrats had a plan to make them end.

01:30:48.000 Right.

01:30:48.000 Which is, so it's in the Democrats' ball.

01:30:51.000 And the whole ACA is because of the Democrats.

01:30:53.000 So the idea that this is somehow the Republicans' fall.

01:30:56.000 Now, granted, the Republicans saying, hey, we're going to repeal and replace, they should have done something about it, but they haven't.

01:31:01.000 But even though that was the case, they're the ones that actually started Obamacare, and it has been a disaster.

01:31:08.000 And the fact that they voted for this to end is on the Democrats as well.

01:31:14.000 It is the duty of the president, in my personal opinion, when you are for nine years bitching about.

01:31:19.000 It's the duty of Congress to be able to.

01:31:21.000 But Donald Trump is the guy in his first administration that said time and time again, here's the plan.

01:31:27.000 We're going to have a plan in two weeks.

01:31:28.000 We're going to have a plan in a month.

01:31:29.000 The point that I am trying to make is even if I disagree with the plan, show us what the plan is.

01:31:34.000 Come up with some ideas.

01:31:35.000 Mike Johnson said, we've been working really hard on a plan.

01:31:38.000 What the F have you guys been doing for years?

01:31:40.000 Okay, Donald Trump was in office first go-around.

01:31:43.000 Where is his plan?

01:31:44.000 That's all I had this debate with Tim Poole when I did his show a few months back.

01:31:51.000 It's okay to disagree with a policy.

01:31:53.000 Come up with solutions.

01:31:55.000 It's your duty to do so.

01:31:56.000 The Republicans run the House and the Senate.

01:31:58.000 Come up with a plan.

01:32:00.000 Well, I mean, he said that part of his plan now is to have direct payments, I guess, to the American people.

01:32:04.000 Well, let's see it.

01:32:05.000 I'm all for ideas.

01:32:06.000 Well, I mean, if that's the case, I mean, like, I understand what I'm saying.

01:32:09.000 I'm not sure if I can get reasonable here.

01:32:10.000 Well, like I said earlier, it is very normal for a president to go to the people and say, this is the idea that I have.

01:32:15.000 And then the plan is to start.

01:32:17.000 Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.

01:32:18.000 That's what Donald Trump was doing tonight.

01:32:19.000 He was saying, look, what has he been doing for nine years?

01:32:22.000 I don't know.

01:32:23.000 Well, like I said, the Republicans should have, but this is something that the Democrats have voted for.

01:32:28.000 Like, they wanted these subsidies to end.

01:32:31.000 That was a Democrat plan.

01:32:32.000 The Democrats created the ACA in totality.

01:32:35.000 The price of health care has done nothing but skyrocket since the ACA.

01:32:39.000 And this is not the fault of the Republicans.

01:32:41.000 This is something that the Democrats own.

01:32:43.000 I believe it's the responsibility of the Republicans when you complain about policy and you are a policymaker to come up with some ideas or solutions.

01:32:50.000 It is the fault of the people that actually passed the bill.

01:32:53.000 The ACA was passed by a supermarket.

01:32:55.000 You come up with another bill.

01:32:56.000 Give me another solution.

01:32:57.000 You would like to see.

01:32:58.000 I don't like when people get chronically ill from eating toxic foods or like sugar, and then they go and they're like, now I have to pay tax money for them to get like ibuprofen or something when they could just be eating broccoli.

01:33:11.000 And so I don't want to pay for chronic health care.

01:33:13.000 I hate broccoli.

01:33:14.000 Of course, it's killing things in your body that you're probably addicted to that you're taking.

01:33:18.000 Well, hold on, let me rephrase it.

01:33:19.000 The cheese with cheese, give me a little salad dressing on there, some ranch.

01:33:23.000 Yeah, we can.

01:33:24.000 Broccoli with cheese is amazing.

01:33:25.000 And so it's cauliflower.

01:33:26.000 Look, at the end of the day, this is a very boilerplate kind of thing, right?

01:33:30.000 Like he got up there and he talked about his policies that he wanted to see push forward in the future.

01:33:36.000 He's talked about the things that he sees that he's done well.

01:33:39.000 So, I mean, I understand, you know, you're here to counter signal Donald Trump.

01:33:43.000 You're not like Donald Trump and all this stuff.

01:33:45.000 There's a lot of people that are struggling.

01:33:46.000 You would agree with me, right?

01:33:47.000 There's people that are struggling.

01:33:48.000 There's always a lot of people that are struggling.

01:33:48.000 He made it sound like everything is great.

01:33:50.000 Well, that's how presidential addresses work.

01:33:53.000 I mean, Bill Clinton gets up and he's like, guys, we're doing terribly, actually.

01:33:57.000 You should probably vote me out.

01:33:58.000 It doesn't ever happen.

01:34:00.000 I understand.

01:34:01.000 Joe Biden did the same thing when he made it sound like a picture.

01:34:02.000 He had a clear and he would talk about how great things were.

01:34:05.000 He made it sound like everything is phenomenal in the economy and we're hot, he said, right?

01:34:09.000 No, we're not.

01:34:10.000 We're not.

01:34:10.000 I wish we were, by the way.

01:34:12.000 As much as I can't stand Donald Trump, I root for not necessarily for him personally, but if the president succeeds, the country succeeds.

01:34:20.000 You don't want the pilot that crashed the president.

01:34:21.000 Right, right.

01:34:23.000 I want the country to succeed.

01:34:24.000 I just didn't hear anything in that speech that was specific as to what are you doing when it comes to health care.

01:34:29.000 Give us a plan.

01:34:30.000 Give us a policy.

01:34:31.000 Again, the policy will come out from Congress.

01:34:34.000 The policy is not going to be set forth by the president.

01:34:37.000 I understand, but Democrats have said time and time again, and I agree with that.

01:34:40.000 Where is the plan?

01:34:41.000 Come to the table with us.

01:34:42.000 Try to bargain with us.

01:34:43.000 Mike Johnson says, we're working on it.

01:34:45.000 We're working.

01:34:46.000 What does that mean we're working on it?

01:34:47.000 What are you doing?

01:34:48.000 You guys have been on vacation for two and a half months.

01:34:50.000 What do you mean you're working on it?

01:34:52.000 What do you think?

01:34:52.000 Do you think that when the Democrats shut the government down for two months, the longest shutdown ever, do you think that was helpful?

01:34:58.000 I discussed it.

01:34:58.000 I just was definitely not something that produced policy that was going to help the American people.

01:35:02.000 I disagree with your characterization that it was a Democrat shutdown.

01:35:06.000 I disagree with that, number one.

01:35:08.000 And number two.

01:35:09.000 Do you think it was a Republican shutdown?

01:35:10.000 I think there's a lot of blame to foot for what took place.

01:35:14.000 I am very disappointed in the business.

01:35:14.000 It was the Democrats that wouldn't vote for the bill.

01:35:17.000 I am very disappointed in the Democrats that voted for the big and beautiful bill, including Catherine Cortez, who actually— The big, beautiful bill was in the summer.

01:35:24.000 I'm talking about when they shut the government down.

01:35:25.000 No, I understand that.

01:35:27.000 But what I am talking about is the fact that there are Democrats that voted, and I believe that those Democrats are traitors as far as I'm concerned.

01:35:36.000 If they voted for the bill, you think they should have been.

01:35:39.000 They should have kept the government shutdown longer.

01:35:41.000 I believe the Democrats came.

01:35:43.000 How does that solve the problem with health care?

01:35:44.000 Because what they were doing is they were saying, look, we want to make sure that there is money to pay for immigrants' health care.

01:35:50.000 I understand that.

01:35:52.000 And that's not popular with the American people at all.

01:35:54.000 Well, it depends who you talk to, but I believe that if you're in this country and you're not a police officer.

01:35:58.000 The majority of Americans are not interested in paying for illegal immigrants' health care.

01:36:03.000 Yeah, it's the control.

01:36:04.000 Oh, it's like the main part of the Trump agenda, the MAG agenda, has been to remove legal immigrants. 0.74

01:36:09.000 Is it legal for undocumented immigrants to go on Medicaid?

01:36:13.000 In most Democrats states.

01:36:15.000 You just said earlier that when an illegal immigrant gets sick, they go to the emergency room.

01:36:22.000 That is something that is paid for by the government.

01:36:24.000 I agree.

01:36:25.000 Getting help in the ER when you're sick is one thing, but it is illegal.

01:36:30.000 Last I checked, for undocumented immigrants to help.

01:36:32.000 Americans are not going to be paying for that health care. 0.94

01:36:35.000 It is illegal for undocumented immigrants to be on government assistance.

01:36:39.000 Now, if they go to the ER, that is a different topic.

01:36:43.000 And by the way, I think.

01:36:43.000 No, it's still the same topic because they're getting health care.

01:36:46.000 Even the American people are not going to be able to do that.

01:36:46.000 If someone is very ill and they go to the ER, I believe it is our duty to take care of them.

01:36:50.000 That's my opinion.

01:36:51.000 If you think of it as an event, then you're saying the American people should pay for their health care.

01:36:55.000 Let me explain.

01:36:55.000 So if somebody is dying and they're undocumented, you don't think usually here.

01:36:59.000 Yes, that's the thing.

01:37:00.000 Okay, that's a different, but hold on.

01:37:02.000 If somebody is dying and they're here, okay, and they're dying, they're having a heart attack, let's just say.

01:37:08.000 That's not health care. 0.80

01:37:09.000 That's an emergency.

01:37:10.000 And that you're talking about if they have the ER right.

01:37:13.000 That's what we were talking about.

01:37:14.000 But they go to the ER for everything you said.

01:37:16.000 And like, I'll say that.

01:37:17.000 It sounds like I don't think you go to the ER for everything.

01:37:18.000 If they get shot, yes, you should treat them.

01:37:21.000 But what we're saying is that they shouldn't be here in the first place.

01:37:23.000 So this shouldn't even be a question we have to answer.

01:37:25.000 Okay, but it is a question we have to answer because there are a lot of undocumented immigrants.

01:37:29.000 I agree.

01:37:29.000 And so that's why I think part of what relieves the pressure on our ER system is removing them from the country.

01:37:33.000 Now, that's the solution.

01:37:34.000 I wish everybody came into this country legally. 0.99

01:37:36.000 We know that a large sum of people that are in this country are legal are also those that overstayed their visas.

01:37:41.000 They're not people that just crossed the border illegally.

01:37:43.000 I can also tell you that I think it is despicable that you have ICE agents across the country.

01:37:49.000 I've seen the videos of them that are in some cases that are not identifying themselves.

01:37:54.000 I also could tell you that they are breaking the law and Christy Noam looked like the fool that she is under oath when I think it was Dan Goldman who asked her, you know, if you are seeking asylum and you filled out the proper paperwork and you're waiting on that, you are not considered an illegal asylum.

01:38:12.000 Okay, but they're deporting those people.

01:38:14.000 That's all I'm trying to say.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, it's about direction.

01:38:17.000 It's about direction.

01:38:18.000 Not if they, look, the asylum rules are very, very specific.

01:38:21.000 You go to the first country where you're not being politically persecuted.

01:38:25.000 The only place where people have a legitimate asylum claim are from Mexico or from Canada.

01:38:31.000 Everyone else has an illegitimate asylum claim.

01:38:34.000 They need to go back.

01:38:35.000 If you're here and you're claiming asylum and you came in on a plane, go back. 0.96

01:38:39.000 And we don't care where you're from.

01:38:41.000 I'm just going by what the law says.

01:38:43.000 The law says that the only legitimate asylum claims are Mexico and Canada.

01:38:47.000 Every other country in the United States.

01:38:49.000 There are a lot of people and there are a lot of people that are seeking asylum from Mexico.

01:38:52.000 And that was the point that Goldman was trying to make to Christine.

01:38:54.000 20 million.

01:38:55.000 It doesn't matter whether it's 20 million or one.

01:38:57.000 When they come to this country and they're seeking asylum from Mexico and they filled out the proper paperwork, it is illegal to deport them.

01:39:03.000 It's the crisis in Mexico. 0.99

01:39:04.000 They're like, country sucks. 1.00

01:39:05.000 Is that like. 0.99

01:39:06.000 You can give me your opinions on what the crisis is in Mexico, but it doesn't change the fact that.

01:39:10.000 That's the opinion.

01:39:10.000 I'm just wondering what is the crisis in Mexico that's not the same.

01:39:12.000 They are still considered seeking asylum seekers.

01:39:15.000 And when they fill out the proper paperwork, you cannot be deported.

01:39:19.000 That is just the law.

01:39:20.000 The Trump administration is breaking the law.

01:39:22.000 So you'll concede that we can deport everyone else that's not a Mexican asylum seeker. 0.85

01:39:26.000 I didn't say that either.

01:39:28.000 But the law, if we're going by what the law says, then Canada and Mexico.

01:39:31.000 I don't want this administration to break the law.

01:39:34.000 Okay, that's important to me.

01:39:35.000 I don't want them to be above the law and to do things that are illegal.

01:39:40.000 It has been proven that that is exactly what they are doing.

01:39:43.000 And it also says in our Constitution, last I checked, it says that not any citizen deserves due process or gets due process.

01:39:53.000 Due process does not mean a court hearing.

01:39:56.000 But when you are seeking asylum and you filled out the paperwork, these people are being tackled outside of these courtrooms, some of whom are from Mexico.

01:40:04.000 Some of whom, but the vast majority, the vast majority are not from Mexico or not from Canada.

01:40:09.000 And if you're here and you have asylum paperwork and you are not from Mexico or Canada, you need to go. 0.98

01:40:15.000 I never said it was the vast majority.

01:40:17.000 All I'm saying is I don't want the Trump administration breaking the law.

01:40:20.000 And clearly they are.

01:40:21.000 And that was proven when Christine Noam was under oath.

01:40:23.000 I don't want to see them break the law.

01:40:25.000 That's all.

01:40:25.000 Again, when you have the vast number of illegal immigrants that we have, illegal asylum seekers, right?

01:40:33.000 They came here and they lied or they have broken the law, right?

01:40:36.000 Broken the rules.

01:40:37.000 They need to be sent home.

01:40:38.000 It is a misdemeanor.

01:40:39.000 And now there is a ton of people here.

01:40:42.000 So there are going to be times where the government is wrong, where they make mistakes because of the numbers.

01:40:48.000 But the vast majority are not here legally and they need to go. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Well, this is a fundamental difference that I have with you guys is because obviously crossing the border illegally, being here illegally is a misdemeanor.

01:40:59.000 Doesn't matter.

01:41:00.000 I wish everybody, well, it matters if it's a misdemeanor or a felon.

01:41:03.000 Of course that matters.

01:41:04.000 No, no, it doesn't.

01:41:05.000 If the level of crime is not a problem, I don't care what type of crime.

01:41:09.000 We have immigration laws.

01:41:11.000 They're not particularly complex when it comes to asylum.

01:41:14.000 If you're here from a country anywhere in South America, any other country in the world that's not Mexico or Canada, they need to go. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Now, I will concede that there are going to be mistakes made because of the number of illegals here, but the idea that we just have to say, well, because they might make mistakes, we can't deport anyone or we can't try to wrap up illegals. 1.00

01:41:36.000 I never said that's not going to happen.

01:41:37.000 But the Trump administration did say that their focus was going to be on those that are violent criminals, which, by the way, I'm totally fine with that.

01:41:42.000 I think that's not enough.

01:41:43.000 I think that if you're here illegally at all, you need to go. 1.00

01:41:46.000 So even that will be a little bit more.

01:41:47.000 So what ballpark of illegal immigrants would you say are violent criminals?

01:41:52.000 I don't know the answer to that.

01:41:54.000 What I can tell you is that I don't appreciate the demonizing of many of these people in this country.

01:42:01.000 While if they don't have the proper paperwork and they're illegal, I think a lot of these people are decent human beings that want a better life for themselves and their family.

01:42:07.000 In a perfect world, I wish everybody was legal.

01:42:09.000 Okay, my question, I understand how you feel.

01:42:11.000 My question was just a ballpark, probably 10%, maybe?

01:42:14.000 I don't know.

01:42:15.000 That's like a liberal estimate for 10%.

01:42:16.000 I don't know.

01:42:17.000 Like 30 to 40% of those deported have been violent criminals.

01:42:20.000 That's an overrepresentation of the violent criminal proportion of illegal immigrants. 0.96

01:42:24.000 When I see some of these ICE agents, many of the videos that I've seen are not even identifying themselves, which is, by the way, illegal if we're talking about rule of law, outside of courtrooms, in front of Home Depots, it pains me to see that.

01:42:37.000 It also pains me to see the country get completely robbed blind by legal immigrants. 1.00

01:42:41.000 Like two things can be wrong here.

01:42:42.000 And again, like to Phil's point, the volume of illegals that are in the country, the volume of deportations that need to occur, it's not always going to be like perfect.

01:42:49.000 It's not going to be clean.

01:42:50.000 It's like debate.

01:42:50.000 What if mass deportations look like?

01:42:52.000 Obviously, we're not going to change each other's minds on this topic, and we disagree.

01:42:56.000 But I always hear from arguments from MAGA Republicans about how we need to respect the rule of law.

01:43:00.000 And I laugh at that.

01:43:02.000 I really do.

01:43:02.000 I laugh at it.

01:43:04.000 By deporting illegals? 0.78

01:43:05.000 No.

01:43:06.000 It's not respecting the rule of law.

01:43:07.000 No, again, when we talk about rule of law, Donald Trump has ripped up parts of our Constitution.

01:43:14.000 Donald Trump is the guy who decided to pardon and call people patriots and hostages who beat police officers on January 6th.

01:43:20.000 That is not respecting the story.

01:43:21.000 Okay, let's stay focused.

01:43:23.000 This is kids galloping.

01:43:25.000 Let's stay focused on immigration. 1.00

01:43:26.000 We got all violated rule of law.

01:43:30.000 If law is evil, you want to violate it for the good of humanity.

01:43:33.000 That's made apparent with the American Revolution.

01:43:35.000 An evil law must be to say obsessively we must follow the laws is disgraceful.

01:43:43.000 You have to always have a lot of people.

01:43:45.000 We got to wrap this up and we're going to go to super chats and go to Rumble Rants and stuff.

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01:44:19.000 Will Tim ever take his hat off if I take mine off?

01:44:22.000 I keep asking you.

01:44:22.000 I cannot speak for Tim Poole.

01:44:24.000 Okay, fair enough.

01:44:25.000 Let's see where we go.

01:44:26.000 I'm wearing the beanie.

01:44:27.000 I had someone take mine off.

01:44:28.000 I was the chosen one.

01:44:29.000 I'll take mine off.

01:44:30.000 I'll take yours off.

01:44:31.000 Here we go.

01:44:31.000 We're not taking anything else off.

01:44:32.000 Final hair.

01:44:33.000 No, nothing else is coming off.

01:44:36.000 All right.

01:44:37.000 What do we got?

01:44:37.000 Put two of our heads together.

01:44:38.000 We look like an ass. 1.00

01:44:39.000 Let's see. 0.99

01:44:41.000 Dave Bricken says, Brian Shapiro has the nerve to accuse other people of being conspiracy theorists when all he does is spew conspiracy theories.

01:44:49.000 Name one.

01:44:49.000 One of the worst debaters on the internet asking pointed questions that he wants to try and use against you.

01:44:57.000 I would ask that person to name one conspiracy theory that I brought up.

01:45:00.000 I notice how they call me a conspiracy.

01:45:01.000 Like, I'll give you a conspiracy theory.

01:45:03.000 The 2020 election was stolen and it was rigged.

01:45:06.000 See how I did that, sir?

01:45:08.000 Give me a conspiracy theory that I brought up in this conversation.

01:45:10.000 There's a difference between an opinion on a policy and a conspiracy theory.

01:45:14.000 Yeah, I think that the.

01:45:16.000 Sorry, Serge, we're just hanging over a funny chat that we're not going to say.

01:45:23.000 Is it insulting towards me?

01:45:24.000 I'm totally.

01:45:25.000 No, no.

01:45:25.000 No, no, it's not insulting.

01:45:26.000 I'll be very fair.

01:45:27.000 I'm fair game.

01:45:28.000 You guys can put up anything you want.

01:45:29.000 I'm not a victim here, okay?

01:45:30.000 Is it Gwids? 1.00

01:45:32.000 No, okay.

01:45:32.000 All right.

01:45:33.000 So I'm now curious what that was.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, we'll tell you.

01:45:38.000 Shane H. Wilder says, so Australian lawmakers are saying they want to enact stricter gun control.

01:45:43.000 Bro, you already banned them. 0.97

01:45:44.000 How stricter can you get effing retard? 1.00

01:45:46.000 What a stupid. 1.00

01:45:47.000 I'll tell you who the retard is, and I don't even like using that word. 1.00

01:45:50.000 Anyone who, first of all, they haven't had a mass shooting like this in 30 years, 800 times more mass shootings in this country than Australia. 1.00

01:45:56.000 So this idiot has no idea what he's talking about. 1.00

01:45:59.000 Well, the real retard is Tim Waltz. 1.00

01:46:01.000 Seriously retarded, according to the president. 1.00

01:46:04.000 They actually had a mass shot. 0.99

01:46:04.000 Why is Tim Waltz retarded? 0.99

01:46:06.000 They actually had a mass shooting in Australia. 0.84

01:46:08.000 We were talking about that on the other hand.

01:46:10.000 They had a mass shooting in Australia earlier this year.

01:46:11.000 It just so happened that no one died.

01:46:13.000 Right, but the idea that someone would talk about gun control, you know, Australia has done a pretty damn good job when it comes to gun control, and it's a horrible tragedy that took place.

01:46:22.000 If you're a fan of the Constitution, would you say that we should just go ahead and expropriate people's property so that way they don't own guns anymore?

01:46:30.000 There's not one Democrat in office.

01:46:31.000 I asked you.

01:46:32.000 No, absolutely.

01:46:33.000 That's absurd.

01:46:34.000 First of all, I'm for the Second Amendment.

01:46:36.000 I want people like you to be able to defend yourself and own a weapon.

01:46:41.000 The problem I have is that Republicans refuse to do anything.

01:46:44.000 I can give you four or five things that we can do that I think would help.

01:46:48.000 I think, you know, would these things violate the Constitution?

01:46:51.000 No, absolutely not.

01:46:52.000 So I understand driving a car is not a right.

01:46:56.000 Owning a gun is a right.

01:46:57.000 It's the worst thing you can bring up.

01:47:00.000 No, but here's what I'm doing.

01:47:01.000 Okay.

01:47:02.000 I believe if you had a two-hour class, a basic class, even though it's your right, okay, learn how to shoot a gun, two hours.

01:47:09.000 learn how to store a gun, and just be safe.

01:47:12.000 But you don't have to do any of that to own a car.

01:47:15.000 What do you mean?

01:47:16.000 When you get your driver's license, you want to buy a car.

01:47:21.000 You don't need a license.

01:47:23.000 You don't need anything.

01:47:24.000 It's illegal to drive a car without a driver's license.

01:47:26.000 You can say drive a car.

01:47:28.000 It's illegal to shoot people with your gun.

01:47:31.000 It is not illegal for you to purchase a car and have a car.

01:47:35.000 It is not illegal for you to own a car.

01:47:37.000 I'm talking about getting a driver's license.

01:47:39.000 In order to drive and use a vehicle, they need to check your health, your eyesight.

01:47:43.000 You have an instructor.

01:47:45.000 So the idea that you are going to use a gun, the only time you use a gun is when your life is in danger.

01:47:54.000 Otherwise, you can't use a gun because you'll end up violating someone else's right.

01:48:00.000 We can train.

01:48:01.000 Are you saying you should have to have a license to train discharge?

01:48:05.000 What I'm saying is if you are going to purchase a weapon in this country, I believe that there should be some sort of mandatory one or two hour class so that they can teach you the basics.

01:48:14.000 And I'll tell you why.

01:48:15.000 If I'm in a supermarket or a mall or a casino and there's a situation with someone with a weapon, if I know there's a good Samaritan there with a weapon, I'd like to know that they know how to use the gun.

01:48:25.000 That might save my life.

01:48:26.000 I understand it's a right.

01:48:28.000 I'm not anti-Second Amendment.

01:48:30.000 I believe we should change the age from 18 to 21.

01:48:33.000 I think certain red flag laws are very inconsistent in this country.

01:48:37.000 I'm not saying that you should call up and say, hey, I don't like my neighbor.

01:48:39.000 I'm going to lie and say he threatened me and then take all guns away.

01:48:42.000 It's another argument I hear from the right.

01:48:43.000 There's not one Democrat in office today that wants to take away all your guns.

01:48:47.000 I've never heard one Democrat say that.

01:48:48.000 No, they don't want to take away all your guns.

01:48:50.000 They just want to take away rifles.

01:48:52.000 The metaphor between the guns and the cars is interesting.

01:48:54.000 So the argument is you don't need a license to buy a car.

01:48:57.000 You need a license to operate the car.

01:48:59.000 Same with the gun pop.

01:49:00.000 Correct.

01:49:00.000 So now you're making the argument that maybe you should have to get a license to buy the gun.

01:49:04.000 But this is where the metaphor fails.

01:49:07.000 You don't need a license to buy a car.

01:49:08.000 So you shouldn't need a license to buy a gun in this metaphor.

01:49:10.000 Maybe to operate the gun.

01:49:12.000 We can get into semantics, but I think you understand that.

01:49:15.000 Only a garment and losing a gun are different.

01:49:17.000 I think you understand the point that I was trying to make.

01:49:21.000 I want to understand it.

01:49:21.000 Listen, a mile from here, 60 people died.

01:49:24.000 The biggest shooting in American history.

01:49:26.000 One of my friends was shot.

01:49:27.000 And you had a deranged individual.

01:49:29.000 We may never know the motive, just like we may never know the motive at Brown University.

01:49:32.000 I hope we do. 1.00

01:49:33.000 I hope they catch the son of a bitch that did that. 1.00

01:49:36.000 But, you know, this guy was able to buy thousands and thousands of rounds of ammunition, just like, you know, in Texas. 1.00

01:49:43.000 I think there should be a limit on how many rounds people can own.

01:49:45.000 I think I'm uncomfortable with an 18-year-old like what happened in, I'm trying to remember the school there in Texas.

01:49:52.000 So do you think that there should be a limit on how many people someone 21 should be allowed to own?

01:49:56.000 Like round rounds?

01:49:57.000 That's not what I'm saying.

01:49:58.000 No, I just think the age should be changed from 18 to 21.

01:50:02.000 I've talked about red flag law.

01:50:03.000 Did you any age be changed from 18 to 21?

01:50:06.000 I wouldn't have a problem with that.

01:50:09.000 I think there's a lot of people that are 18, 19 years old that are not extremely informed.

01:50:13.000 There's a lot of people that are my age that are probably extremely uninformed as well.

01:50:16.000 And I'm sure a lot of the people that are watching this show would probably make that claim.

01:50:19.000 And that's okay.

01:50:20.000 I think you've got to correlate gun ownership rights and all that with military service age.

01:50:24.000 Listen, here's the bottom line.

01:50:25.000 I don't want innocent people to die.

01:50:27.000 We all agree on that.

01:50:27.000 We're all nice people.

01:50:28.000 We all agree on that, right?

01:50:30.000 My problem is the same argument that I have with healthcare.

01:50:34.000 Let's come up with solutions.

01:50:35.000 Republicans, Democrats, let's sit at the table.

01:50:37.000 Let's try to compromise.

01:50:38.000 Republicans and Democrats used to be able to compromise.

01:50:41.000 There's no compromise anymore.

01:50:42.000 Can we all agree?

01:50:43.000 There's way too many, way too much gun violence in this country, whether it be suicide, mass shootings.

01:50:48.000 There's way too much gun violence.

01:50:50.000 We need to do something about it.

01:50:52.000 And I don't think more guns make us safer.

01:50:54.000 We have 140 guns per 100 people in this country.

01:50:57.000 We are a country that is obsessed with our guns.

01:51:00.000 I'm not saying take everybody's rights away.

01:51:03.000 I'm pro-Second Amendment.

01:51:04.000 I want people to be able to defend themselves.

01:51:06.000 All I'm saying is, can we come together and maybe do some things?

01:51:09.000 How about mental health?

01:51:10.000 Let's try to not get hens in the hands of the wrong people.

01:51:13.000 Now you're speaking my language, man.

01:51:15.000 I don't want to break bread at the left.

01:51:17.000 I want them to concede to us.

01:51:19.000 Well, that's not how you get things done in Washington, D.C. Trump's getting it done.

01:51:23.000 He's doing a good job.

01:51:24.000 The problem with people that have, so PTSD, veterans that have had PTSD, they'll have their rights taken away.

01:51:33.000 You end up with people saying, hey, this guy that, you know, this guy was yelling at me, or this guy here, this guy yelling.

01:51:39.000 And you'll end up with too many people that are having their rights taken away.

01:51:42.000 So I hear what you're saying, and I was going to bring up red flag laws. 0.77

01:51:46.000 I do not believe, let's just say, for example, a husband threatens his wife. 0.99

01:51:50.000 I'm going to kill you, right?

01:51:51.000 Obviously, he would probably be arrested for a threat, right? 0.99

01:51:53.000 You can't threaten somebody's life.

01:51:55.000 But then in some states in this country, the next day, he's allowed to legally purchase a gun.

01:51:59.000 Now, in some states, that would be illegal.

01:52:02.000 You're giving me the opposite end of the spectrum, and I agree with you. 1.00

01:52:05.000 If you have a neighbor that you don't like, you shouldn't be allowed to call the police and say, hey, he threatened me.

01:52:10.000 And then they go over to his house and take his guns away.

01:52:12.000 Those are two extremes.

01:52:13.000 What I'm saying is, let's be consistent.

01:52:15.000 It's a case-by-case basis.

01:52:17.000 Let's meet somewhere in the middle.

01:52:18.000 I'm pretty sure if someone has a spouse out there and they threatened your life, you probably don't want that person to buy a gun the next day.

01:52:24.000 It has to be a case-by-case basis.

01:52:26.000 But some people will make the argument, well, he deserves his day in court.

01:52:29.000 Okay. 0.98

01:52:29.000 But if you have somebody on a message saying they're going to kill you. 0.98

01:52:33.000 No, there's deep fakes.

01:52:34.000 If you have, you could make a video.

01:52:36.000 I actually have Sora.com.

01:52:38.000 My avatar is on there.

01:52:40.000 So if you at Ian Cross and make a movie of me doing something, and if it's me saying something that literally could get your rights, our rights are the most cherished aspect of this society.

01:52:49.000 I understand that, but I also want consistency with red flag laws.

01:52:52.000 And by state by state, there are different rules that apply.

01:52:55.000 All I'm simply saying is I want Democrats, and this comes with almost every issue, to be able to compromise.

01:53:03.000 What I find despicable is after a mass shooting, and I talked to George Santos about this.

01:53:07.000 I know you guys had him on.

01:53:08.000 He showed up the next day with an AR-15 pin. 0.99

01:53:11.000 Okay, these are sick people. 0.93

01:53:12.000 George admitted that that was a mistake. 0.97

01:53:14.000 Okay, that's wrong.

01:53:15.000 And it's wrong when Ted Cruz, after the shooting in Texas, says, geez, we should have locked that back door in that school, as if that would be a deterrent for somebody, an 18-year-old who just shot their grandmother in the face, okay?

01:53:27.000 As if that would be some sort of deterrent.

01:53:29.000 Now, I don't know what all the answers are, but I do want some solutions.

01:53:33.000 And more guns are not the answers.

01:53:34.000 I'm sorry, it's not.

01:53:35.000 I hear about a shooting.

01:53:36.000 If I see a gun, it doesn't make me think of the shoot.

01:53:38.000 Like, I'm not afraid of the gun part of the story.

01:53:41.000 I'm afraid of why did that guy go and do that?

01:53:43.000 Oh, there's a lot of reasons, right?

01:53:46.000 Mental illness is obviously a big issue, depression.

01:53:49.000 And then there's just evil people in the world.

01:53:51.000 The guy who killed 60 people here, by the way, I was supposed to be at that concert.

01:53:55.000 Instead, I went to a Vegas Golden Knights preseason game and it probably saved my life.

01:53:58.000 And I know a person who was shot in the lower back.

01:54:01.000 We still don't know a motive.

01:54:03.000 We never will.

01:54:04.000 Sometimes people are evil, and people don't realize that.

01:54:08.000 We got to move on.

01:54:08.000 So we got one from, yeah, but Trump 89-14.

01:54:13.000 One, it definitely said Ben Shapira in the show title.

01:54:16.000 I don't think that's true.

01:54:17.000 Is that true?

01:54:18.000 I don't think so.

01:54:19.000 Two.

01:54:19.000 Your thoughts don't care about your feelings.

01:54:20.000 Wait, what's up?

01:54:21.000 Two, it would have been more entertaining if true.

01:54:23.000 Three, put this dude back in the rabbit hole he crawled out of.

01:54:26.000 Thank you for your attention to this match.

01:54:28.000 Be nice to me, guys.

01:54:29.000 What did I do wrong?

01:54:32.000 Tape Brown.

01:54:32.000 Stop talking on tape.

01:54:34.000 You know, unfortunately, there are some people on the left and the right that are not willing to have these conversations, and they don't want debate, and they don't want disagreement.

01:54:41.000 You know what?

01:54:41.000 It's right.

01:54:42.000 They did put you in.

01:54:43.000 They did call me Ben Shapiro.

01:54:45.000 That was an error.

01:54:46.000 That was an error.

01:54:47.000 And they're probably like, man, Ben evolved on his politics about.

01:54:49.000 What's going on?

01:54:50.000 Ben's really flipped, hasn't he?

01:54:51.000 He's got a lot of tall.

01:54:52.000 He's far more handsome now than he thinks.

01:54:54.000 He really is never Trump.

01:54:55.000 He knows that badly.

01:54:56.000 He's far more handsome.

01:54:57.000 I'm not wearing a yamuka, though.

01:54:58.000 His hat got a little bigger.

01:54:59.000 What's going on here?

01:55:00.000 What happened to his yarmulka?

01:55:01.000 I don't wear a yarmulke anymore.

01:55:02.000 VT Idaho says, as per Timcast IRL tradition, my rock star wife Maddie and I welcomed our first child, Lincoln Tyler Townsend, to the world.

01:55:12.000 Little Lieutenant born 12, 12, 20, 25 at 3.

01:55:17.000 Where'd it go?

01:55:19.000 At 3.50 p.m., 7 pounds, 8.6 ounces.

01:55:23.000 God is good.

01:55:23.000 Never give up.

01:55:24.000 Thank you for brutal to the world.

01:55:28.000 He's being way too nice on me.

01:55:29.000 Welcome to the world.

01:55:31.000 You little patriot.

01:55:32.000 We have so much work to do.

01:55:34.000 Get to work.

01:55:34.000 Get fighting.

01:55:35.000 I know you probably aren't even talking yet, but we need you in the battle.

01:55:37.000 Come on, get to work.

01:55:39.000 El Chipper says, hello, guys.

01:55:40.000 As tradition demands, I'm letting you know we're at the hospital as my wife welcomed our first baby boy and third child overall.

01:55:47.000 Welcome to the world, Theodore Lucas.

01:55:49.000 Shout out to my wonderful wife. 1.00

01:55:50.000 God is good.

01:55:51.000 Theodore is a good name.

01:55:52.000 That's a son.

01:55:53.000 Can't kill a bull.

01:55:54.000 That's right.

01:55:55.000 So, yeah, congratulations.

01:55:56.000 Let's go.

01:55:57.000 Thank you very much.

01:55:58.000 That's what I was saying.

01:55:58.000 These Timcast fans, what is their fertility rate?

01:56:00.000 I mean, they're popping higher or higher.

01:56:02.000 I mean, it's looking like Molly, but like everybody.

01:56:05.000 They just watch the show and then they just get it on, right?

01:56:07.000 I think it's unlikely while the show's on, Brian.

01:56:09.000 Sorry, ladies, tonight's going to get a little wacky on the bottom. 1.00

01:56:11.000 I zip down the volume down.

01:56:13.000 I think Tim's beanie gets people high by the way.

01:56:15.000 I think that's what hey.

01:56:17.000 I'm a bird now.

01:56:18.000 He says, all testimony said Trump broke no laws.

01:56:21.000 He unfriended Epstein when the scandal started.

01:56:25.000 The flights were domestic.

01:56:26.000 Never to the island.

01:56:27.000 Quit internet, intentionally ignoring context clown. 0.82

01:56:32.000 You have nothing. 0.99

01:56:33.000 I have nothing.

01:56:34.000 So if there's nothing, then why won't he release the files?

01:56:37.000 Well, I mean, if there's nothing, then why is Maxwell being treated the way she is?

01:56:41.000 If there's nothing, then why did Epstein on tape say that Donald Trump was once his best friend?

01:56:46.000 Why was Epstein taking young girls from Mar-a-Lago?

01:56:50.000 And apparently Donald Trump even admitted that and said, yeah, that's why our friendship ended. 0.96

01:56:54.000 So if anyone out there is complicit enough like that fool to say that there's nothing there, you know, it's a nothing burger. 0.88

01:57:03.000 If all of the evidence says that he didn't do anything and all testimony said that he didn't testimony, Donald Trump never testified under oath. 0.95

01:57:09.000 No, no testimony is a testimony.

01:57:10.000 There were testimonies from the women that had seen Donald Trump with Epstein and stuff.

01:57:15.000 I never said that he broke the law.

01:57:17.000 They said that he didn't do anything.

01:57:19.000 Okay, well then release the files.

01:57:20.000 Well, the point that I'm making is if the testimony says that he didn't do anything, why is there such scrutiny?

01:57:27.000 I don't know.

01:57:27.000 I'm sure that he did.

01:57:28.000 The files get released, like every world leader throughout history is on it, and they're like, oh, we forgot to shred the Vegas Cox.

01:57:35.000 I am just now repeating what almost every MAGA supporter was repeating months before the election.

01:57:41.000 Release the files.

01:57:42.000 Do what Pam Bondi promised she was going to do.

01:57:46.000 Very simple.

01:57:48.000 Release the naughty list.

01:57:49.000 We want to see the naughty list.

01:57:50.000 Who's getting cold this Christmas? 0.97

01:57:52.000 I don't think raping a child is considered naughty. 0.65

01:57:54.000 I think it's, you know, has done something.

01:57:58.000 No, I said that.

01:57:59.000 Again, that's not that.

01:58:01.000 You keep saying that.

01:58:02.000 I don't know.

01:58:03.000 I believe you say things like, oh, I wasn't referring to.

01:58:06.000 No, that's wrong.

01:58:06.000 You're a mischaracter.

01:58:07.000 I wasn't referring to Donald Trump's character.

01:58:09.000 Yes, you are.

01:58:09.000 No, I never said Donald Trump Red Kids.

01:58:11.000 What I am saying is that I guarantee you there are names in there that have raped children, and that needs to get you need to give justice to the victims. 0.98

01:58:17.000 I never said Donald Trump raped anybody. 0.99

01:58:18.000 Now, he is a liable sexual abuser, but I never said he raped a child. 0.99

01:58:23.000 What I am saying is, release the files. 0.88

01:58:24.000 I want people brought to justice for the victims.

01:58:27.000 That doesn't mean Donald Trump raped anybody, but I want justice.

01:58:30.000 Is that bad?

01:58:31.000 Well, on the surface, it looks good, but there might be other things behind the scenes that we don't understand about global order and how things can be.

01:58:38.000 Well, I don't care about global order.

01:58:40.000 I care about for the victims.

01:58:41.000 I want them to get justice.

01:58:43.000 We got one from Plague Doctor84 here.

01:58:45.000 Dems had four years to destroy the files and add fake info.

01:58:49.000 Maxwell favored to put together missing pieces.

01:58:52.000 No Trump implication. 0.84

01:58:53.000 Peaky Grinder boy is a low IQ propaganda guzza. 1.00

01:58:57.000 I'm shocked. 0.99

01:58:58.000 I'm shocked that somebody would use homophobic slurs. 0.99

01:59:02.000 Sir, if my fetish was for a middle-aged white dude who's a big Tim Pool supporter, which, by the way, I don't have a problem with, if my fetish was somebody like you, sir, who's probably sitting there with your chips and probably suffer from Trump fellatio syndrome, then maybe I would go out with you, sir. 0.98

01:59:16.000 But I'm not a Trump mushroom gobbler like you. 0.99

01:59:18.000 So go back to your gobbling and have a nice day.

01:59:21.000 You wish I was into somebody like you.

01:59:23.000 You probably pleasure yourself to me every night before you go to sleep. 0.97

01:59:26.000 Methos671 says I'd rather listen to Hamas Piker than this spiteful leprechaun. 1.00

01:59:31.000 A leprechaun?

01:59:32.000 Wow.

01:59:33.000 Wow, a leprechaun.

01:59:35.000 I can do these all day.

01:59:37.000 I could do these all day. 0.99

01:59:38.000 So comparing people that behead babies to somebody like me because you don't like my political opinions makes you a complete dick you just make the allegation that Hassan Piker beheaded a baby. 0.99

01:59:48.000 No, I'm sorry. 0.99

01:59:49.000 I thought you said Hamas.

01:59:50.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:59:51.000 I thought he's all the irony.

01:59:52.000 Hamas Piker. 0.96

01:59:53.000 Hamas Piker. 0.96

01:59:54.000 But it was a bad thing.

01:59:55.000 Yeah, I don't behead babies, sir.

01:59:56.000 And I'm sorry.

01:59:58.000 Sorry to disappoint you.

01:59:59.000 Sorry if you don't like my political opinions, but that was a very intelligent statement.

02:00:02.000 How much did he have to pay for that statement?

02:00:04.000 As much as he wanted, but I think it was in shekels.

02:00:07.000 What's going on here?

02:00:08.000 Maybe it was.

02:00:09.000 I don't know.

02:00:09.000 It is Hanukkah.

02:00:10.000 That's true.

02:00:11.000 It is Hanukkah.

02:00:12.000 By the way, Myron Gaines called me a dreidel spinner.

02:00:14.000 That was very funny.

02:00:15.000 I wasn't at that.

02:00:16.000 That was a funny comment.

02:00:17.000 You got to comment.

02:00:18.000 That was funny.

02:00:18.000 I took credit where credit is due.

02:00:20.000 That was good.

02:00:20.000 Keep moving there, Serge.

02:00:23.000 Let's see.

02:00:24.000 Rogue Killshot says, Obama murdered a 16-year-old American from college.

02:00:27.000 Yeah, there you go. 0.99

02:00:28.000 Barack Obama's a murderer, and you're going to be the next president, bud. 0.99

02:00:32.000 I can't wait to be able to do it. 1.00

02:00:32.000 He did. 1.00

02:00:33.000 He did.

02:00:33.000 Was that proven in a court of law?

02:00:35.000 He did.

02:00:36.000 They admitted to it.

02:00:37.000 They admitted that they fired a hellfire missile.

02:00:39.000 So there's a difference between murdering somebody and then people that are killed in acts of war trying to take out terrorists.

02:00:47.000 There is a fine-line difference between Coleman.

02:00:50.000 Like, for example, for example, what happened.

02:00:53.000 Why am I forgetting his name now?

02:00:54.000 The actor who was just murdered.

02:00:56.000 Oh, Rob Ryan.

02:00:57.000 How could I forget his name?

02:00:58.000 The late Rob Reiner.

02:00:59.000 That was murder.

02:00:59.000 I think we all could agree on that.

02:01:01.000 What Barack Obama did is not considered murder.

02:01:04.000 There are horrible atrocities that happen when you're trying to go after some very bad people.

02:01:09.000 It happens in every presidency.

02:01:10.000 That's not murder, bud.

02:01:12.000 All right, we've got one more.

02:01:13.000 Andrew Starr 8062 says, starts losing argument and immediately goes to, I don't understand why Republicans are obsessed with every single time these people are brainwashed.

02:01:23.000 I'm brainwashed.

02:01:24.000 Well, again, not being specific on anything and just making a generalized statement that I am brainwashed.

02:01:28.000 I think the problem is you have to get out of your right-wing echo chamber bubble.

02:01:32.000 I appreciate these guys for willing to have conversations with people that they disagree with.

02:01:36.000 But go back to listening to your Mark Levin and maybe go listen to Candace Owens.

02:01:39.000 And listen to the Tim Pool Daily Noon Live Show as well.

02:01:45.000 It's hard to show real quick, my bad.

02:01:46.000 All right.

02:01:47.000 Smash the like button.

02:01:48.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

02:01:49.000 Get into the Discord.

02:01:50.000 Become a member at Timcast.com.

02:01:52.000 Like I said, get in the Discord.

02:01:53.000 There is someone in the Discord waiting for you.

02:01:56.000 Wife.

02:01:56.000 Brian, thank you for joining.

02:01:57.000 Thank you for joining us.

02:01:58.000 This was a lot of fun.

02:01:59.000 I appreciate everybody where they can find you.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, I appreciate that.

02:02:02.000 At PTL Radio Show is my YouTube page.

02:02:06.000 The Brian Shapiro is my website.

02:02:10.000 And my Facebook page actually just started about a month ago.

02:02:13.000 I got about 35,000 subs on there.

02:02:15.000 Not as much as some of you guys have or what Tim Poole has, but we just got started.

02:02:19.000 And I want to repeat this once again.

02:02:21.000 And I get a lot of crap for saying this, but you guys have always treated me good here on the show, and I really do appreciate that.

02:02:26.000 And I love the fact that you guys are willing to have these conversations.

02:02:29.000 I think there are too many people out there in their echo chamber, left or right.

02:02:32.000 So I want to thank you guys and everybody with this show.

02:02:36.000 I'm sorry that Tim dodged me today, but hopefully Tim is winning money at the poker tables.

02:02:41.000 I really do, in all seriousness, I really do appreciate you guys for having these conversations.

02:02:44.000 I think it's really important.

02:02:45.000 We appreciate you.

02:02:46.000 Ian.

02:02:46.000 I'm exhilarated that there are people, well, that you find it as awesome as I do.

02:02:50.000 This is the healing medicine that we need as a species.

02:02:54.000 I like Tim, by the way.

02:02:55.000 I've said that.

02:02:55.000 You know what's sad?

02:02:56.000 I said it on the show on my show.

02:02:58.000 I said, listen, first of all, what happened to Tim with the shooting at his house is awful.

02:03:02.000 I was one of the first people to text him, and I'm like, dude, I hope you're okay.

02:03:05.000 This is effing terrible.

02:03:06.000 And the hate I got, he made it up. 1.00

02:03:09.000 He's a liar. 1.00

02:03:10.000 I'm like, dude, what the hell is wrong with you? 1.00

02:03:11.000 The man has a daughter and a wife.

02:03:13.000 I am not that person.

02:03:14.000 Okay.

02:03:15.000 And I think we're just at a sick time in this country right now.

02:03:19.000 Yeah.

02:03:19.000 We're at a sick time.

02:03:20.000 People thought people, you wouldn't believe the messages I got.

02:03:22.000 I say, I think Tim Poole's a really nice guy.

02:03:24.000 I disagree with him on some stuff.

02:03:26.000 You wouldn't believe the hate I get for that.

02:03:27.000 Well, I think a lot of us are kind of thrust into this.

02:03:29.000 Like Thomas Jefferson was the same way.

02:03:31.000 He would have wanted to be an artist, but he said because the world was what it was, he had no choice but to get into politics.

02:03:35.000 And here we are.

02:03:36.000 So I'm at Ian Crossland.

02:03:38.000 You can follow me at Ian Crossland.

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02:03:46.000 A graphene movie is coming soon.

02:03:47.000 Will you sign a Jim Morrison record for me?

02:03:49.000 Happily.

02:03:50.000 Let's go.

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02:03:58.000 We'll tighten up the name for the new year.

02:03:59.000 So go check me out.

02:04:00.000 We'll be there tomorrow at noon.

02:04:02.000 And I, as well, was thrusted into this.

02:04:03.000 I'm a big thruster, Paul.

02:04:05.000 Thank you.

02:04:06.000 Really, I want to work the sidecam.

02:04:08.000 Give it some love.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 18, 2025

Dan Bongino To RESIGN, Trump Addresses The Nation

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