Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Daniel Penny Manslaughter DISMISSED, SCHEME To FORCE Secondary Verdict w-Wayne Dupree | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Daniel Penny's jury deadlocked.

00:00:20.000 Well, the jury comes back out a second time saying deadlocked.

00:00:24.000 And in what is, I'm hearing, the craziest scheme we've seen in a long time, the prosecutors moved then to drop the first charge, manslaughter, which would instead of granting a mistrial, what the defense is asking for now, it would allow the jury to go back and consider what the defense is asking for now, it would allow the jury to go And many people are describing this as a scheme from the prosecutors to subvert the rule of law.

00:00:50.000 Because the way it's supposed to go is if you can't find him guilty of the first one, then it's it.

00:00:53.000 You're done.

00:00:53.000 It's a deadlocked jury, mistrial, whatever.

00:00:56.000 Maybe it doesn't come back up.

00:00:57.000 Maybe it does.

00:00:58.000 Maybe the prosecution says, look, we tried.

00:01:00.000 We're not going to do this again.

00:01:01.000 It's seeming now, as Mike Cernovich describes, lawless.

00:01:05.000 That this DA, a Soros prosecutor, many people are saying, is just trying to squeeze out some way to convince the jury to find Daniel Penny guilty.

00:01:15.000 So we're going to break this down.

00:01:17.000 Admittedly, it gets in illegal territory.

00:01:19.000 I don't know.

00:01:20.000 I mean, I'm not familiar with this precedent and this move, but I'm seeing all these lawyers losing their minds and the press is talking about it.

00:01:27.000 So we'll talk about that stuff.

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00:01:33.000 Apparently.

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00:01:38.000 And then, my friends, Nick Fuentes has been arrested.

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00:03:19.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Wayne Dupree.

00:03:23.000 What's up?

00:03:23.000 What's going on?

00:03:24.000 Hey, I mean, look.

00:03:25.000 We're hanging out.

00:03:26.000 Let me tell you something.

00:03:27.000 There's nothing like being down in God's country.

00:03:29.000 I mean, awesome.

00:03:32.000 Awesome.

00:03:32.000 Beautiful place.

00:03:33.000 Beautiful place.

00:03:34.000 Absolutely.

00:03:35.000 Well, introduce yourself.

00:03:36.000 What do you do?

00:03:37.000 Um...

00:03:38.000 Little of this, little of that.

00:03:40.000 I'm the son of a sharecropper.

00:03:42.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:03:44.000 I was born on Eastern Shore of Maryland.

00:03:47.000 I've been doing this since Tea Party days.

00:03:51.000 You know, it's...

00:03:54.000 From that to where we are right now, I've seen so much change.

00:04:00.000 Some good, some bad, but, you know, I've seen a lot of things that happen.

00:04:04.000 So, you know, I'm here for it, you know?

00:04:08.000 Right on.

00:04:08.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

00:04:09.000 Should be fun.

00:04:10.000 We got Brett hanging out.

00:04:11.000 Yes, indeedy, guys.

00:04:12.000 Brett's here.

00:04:13.000 I am normally host of Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday, 3 p.m.

00:04:17.000 Eastern today.

00:04:17.000 In fact, Phil was on with us today.

00:04:19.000 I was.

00:04:20.000 I was.

00:04:20.000 And we were talking about how awkward the intro always is.

00:04:23.000 That's what I was saying earlier.

00:04:24.000 You're the one that thinks it's interesting.

00:04:25.000 Yeah.

00:04:25.000 No, I said like when we do our show, we have a standard intro.

00:04:28.000 So, you know, it's very, very formulaic and I get to ease into the conversation really, really quickly.

00:04:34.000 Here I'm always like, now we're going.

00:04:36.000 It's only because you're not here every night.

00:04:38.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:04:39.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:04:42.000 I am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:04:45.000 Let's go!

00:04:45.000 So I have one more announcement for all of you.

00:04:48.000 As you know, I mentioned last night that we had some positive updates for you.

00:04:52.000 I can now say, and we have this, I've tweeted it out.

00:04:55.000 In the lawsuit between I, Tim Pool and the Kamala Harris campaign, this lawsuit has been resolved to my satisfaction.

00:05:02.000 So thank you to everybody.

00:05:04.000 And the tweet in question no longer exists.

00:05:07.000 I will leave it at that.

00:05:09.000 But I will just say once again, it's been resolved to my satisfaction and I really do appreciate everybody's support.

00:05:15.000 And OK, let's jump into this story here from ABC News.

00:05:20.000 Manslaughter charge dismissed in Daniel Penny trial.

00:05:23.000 Jury to consider negligent homicide charge.

00:05:27.000 Now, this is interesting.

00:05:28.000 To better understand, we have this tweet from Greg Price.

00:05:30.000 He says what Daphne Yoren is doing to Daniel Penny is nuts and absolutely illegal.

00:05:35.000 She moved to dismiss count one manslaughter because count two criminal negligent homicide could not be considered if there was a verdict.

00:05:44.000 They're bending the law to try and squeeze a guilty verdict for somebody who saved people on a train.

00:05:49.000 We have this transcript.

00:05:51.000 A.D.A. Uran says don't tell them it's an acquittal on count one, only that it's dismissed.

00:05:56.000 Penny's lawyer kind of says this has never been done before.

00:05:59.000 It would encourage prosecutors to overcharge in the grand jury with the option of withdrawing if hung under coercion.

00:06:06.000 Judge Wiley says I'll take a chance and grant the people's application.

00:06:09.000 I'm going to let them go to return and consider count two on Monday.

00:06:12.000 Bring them in.

00:06:14.000 Judge says, manslaughter in the second degree is dismissed.

00:06:16.000 You are free to consider count two on Monday.

00:06:19.000 Judge Wiley says, I'll take a chance and grant the people's application.

00:06:22.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:06:22.000 It's just a repeat twice.

00:06:24.000 And then we have the next image here.

00:06:26.000 This is the verdict sheet.

00:06:28.000 And it says, count one, manslaughter in the second degree.

00:06:31.000 If you find the defendant guilty of count one, manslaughter in the second degree, then do not consider and do not render a verdict on count two, criminally negligent homicide.

00:06:39.000 If you find the defendant not guilty of count one, manslaughter in the second degree, for the reason that the people have failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was not justified, then you must not consider count two, criminally negligent homicide.

00:06:52.000 And you must also find the defendant not guilty.

00:06:55.000 If you find the defendant not guilty on count one, manslaughter in the second degree, for some reason other than a lack of justification, then proceed to consider and render a verdict on count two, criminally negligent homicide.

00:07:04.000 So the gist of the story is, without a verdict at all, they're deadlocked.

00:07:08.000 This should be a mistrial.

00:07:10.000 And so right now we have this in the Daily Mail.

00:07:12.000 Daniel Penny's lawyers blast desperate prosecutors for rare jury requests and bully tactics.

00:07:17.000 They're looking for a mistrial on this.

00:07:20.000 And look, guys, I was saying from the get-go when the jury was taking a long time that this was not a good sign.

00:07:26.000 Some people were like, no, it's a good sign.

00:07:28.000 It means that it could be one person, it could be 11 people.

00:07:32.000 They want this man in prison, and they're not moving until he goes.

00:07:35.000 And now the judge is basically saying, can we figure out a way to get him in prison regardless, even though the jury can't agree?

00:07:41.000 Mm-hmm.

00:07:41.000 That's that New York justice.

00:07:44.000 Somebody's got to go down.

00:07:47.000 Not only that, but they need to make an example out of this guy.

00:07:54.000 Somehow, someway.

00:07:55.000 So when I, you know, being in the military, have been in the military myself, what he did was a huge selfless thing to save a lot of people.

00:08:10.000 And then That should be taken into account.

00:08:13.000 It's not.

00:08:14.000 And when you probably have a whole lot of witnesses that want to testify on his behalf, you have to wonder, okay, so are they quieting these people?

00:08:26.000 What's the motive?

00:08:28.000 Where's the money coming from to really put this guy away?

00:08:32.000 And remember, this is all going on while people are cheering the murder of the CEO of a company right now.

00:08:39.000 Yeah.

00:08:42.000 Right now, the left in the U.S. is topsy-turvy of what is good and positive.

00:08:50.000 You have a society that has problems just like any other society, but the left wants to see the bad guys being taken care of and treated as if they're not bad guys, and they want to see the good guys punished.

00:09:07.000 Now, I don't think that that actually applies to the CEO, but the idea that he should die for being a – because he's a CEO of a business, that's abhorrent, right?

00:09:18.000 The people that are celebrating the murder of a man that had a family, the people that are saying we need more of this, that is absolutely going to make society worse.

00:09:32.000 That doesn't make society better.

00:09:34.000 It doesn't make people feel more comfortable living in society.

00:09:39.000 It makes people more apprehensive.

00:09:41.000 It makes people want more government.

00:09:42.000 It makes people want more police.

00:09:45.000 And this is the exact opposite of what the left says.

00:09:48.000 They say things like abolish the police or defund the police.

00:09:52.000 Well, if you have people that are acting as vigilantes...

00:09:58.000 Then the rest of society is going to say more police.

00:10:01.000 Like I was saying the other night, if you have a society that is a high trust society, then you need less government.

00:10:09.000 If you have a society that is a low trust society, then you're going to end up getting more government.

00:10:15.000 And that's not going to make people on the left or the right happy because most people are like, I want to be free.

00:10:21.000 There's that story we bring up quite a bit about that woman on the train in Philly who got raped and everybody's watched.

00:10:27.000 And I'm like, that's why.

00:10:28.000 Yeah.

00:10:28.000 Yo, the fact, look, the fact that this is a deadlocked jury and we're here at all, it does not matter at this point, in my opinion, if Daniel Penny wins because the process is the punishment.

00:10:41.000 Uh-huh.

00:10:43.000 hoping that Daniel life will never be the same again yeah his life will never be the same but even if he got a quick uh not guilty verdict right away that's good and then a lot of people will be like oh okay you'll be found not guilty short of that the message sent to the average person is if you try to help people yeah this is what your life will be yeah

00:11:06.000 Well, there was this video that was viral like last year where a bunch of people are in a market – they're in like an outdoor restaurant, right?

00:11:13.000 And a guy comes up out of nowhere and he attacks a woman who's at a table and a guy is with a girl at a table next to them and he doesn't do anything about it.

00:11:24.000 And the question was, what was this guy supposed to do?

00:11:27.000 Should he have intervened?

00:11:28.000 And everybody had their opinions on that.

00:11:29.000 And in that video, he kind of – he like pushes his girlfriend out of the way.

00:11:33.000 But then he doesn't do anything to help.

00:11:35.000 He just kind of skirts out of frame and the decision – the talk became about pragmatism versus what's your duty as a man in this situation.

00:11:43.000 Is it your duty to intervene and help this person?

00:11:47.000 And the vast majority, devoid of whatever your opinion is on it, the vast majority of the response on Twitter at the time was that it is too risky.

00:11:57.000 I have a family at home.

00:11:58.000 It is not my responsibility.

00:12:00.000 And whatever you feel on that, that is the public sentiment right now from those who are paying attention to the legal system.

00:12:06.000 That makes society worse.

00:12:08.000 But you know, when I was growing up, it was, you know, the community looked after each other.

00:12:14.000 You know, you could leave your front door open.

00:12:19.000 Everybody in the community knew each other.

00:12:22.000 The parents knew the kids.

00:12:25.000 The kids knew what they couldn't do beyond that.

00:12:28.000 But if somebody was to start a little fight or something like that, the parents would run out.

00:12:32.000 You know you're not supposed to do that.

00:12:34.000 But where we are now with these cameras, with these phones and stuff like that, You put this thing up on TikTok.

00:12:42.000 You put this thing up on YouTube.

00:12:43.000 You put this thing up on Twitter.

00:12:46.000 And you're trying to make money.

00:12:49.000 Yeah.

00:12:49.000 You're trying to make money.

00:12:51.000 And where somebody's getting their butt whipped or, you know, just totally annihilated. 0.97

00:12:57.000 I mean, these knockout. 0.98

00:13:01.000 Yeah.

00:13:01.000 In New York.

00:13:02.000 That's when a whole lot of this stuff really started because these people are getting this stuff on cameras, phones.

00:13:09.000 Oh.

00:13:10.000 Or even in this situation, it's a matter of just how dishonest the person who recorded the video tends to be, because where does the video start?

00:13:17.000 When does the video pick up?

00:13:18.000 Was this person being belligerent before, you know, if we're talking in this situation where you put someone in a headlock and you take them down, does the video show the person being belligerent beforehand that shows him intervening to protect people around him?

00:13:30.000 Or does the video just start with someone with a dude in a headlock who looks like he just got on a train or got on a bus and started attacking someone?

00:13:38.000 I mean, the whole, you know, this thing going on with Daniel Penny, like, I forget the guy, Jordan Neely, he was mentally ill, and he was threatening people.

00:13:52.000 The other people on the train said that he was threatening people.

00:13:56.000 You don't have to wait until you're attacked.

00:14:01.000 Like, someone actually physically attacks you to do something.

00:14:05.000 Like, if that is the case, then you might have to wait until you actually get stabbed or get shot.

00:14:10.000 Well, that's the Gulag Archipelago famous passage.

00:14:14.000 Yeah.

00:14:14.000 Where in the Soviet Union, there's a soldier.

00:14:17.000 He's on trial for murder.

00:14:19.000 A guy was trying to stab him.

00:14:21.000 He grabbed the knife, fought back, and stabbed the other guy.

00:14:23.000 And they said, why did you do that?

00:14:25.000 And he was like, he was going to kill me.

00:14:26.000 And he was like, why didn't you run away?

00:14:27.000 Yeah.

00:14:28.000 You go to prison.

00:14:29.000 And that is the general consensus of the left.

00:14:34.000 You know, it is psychotically against the people that are doing the normal day-to-day things, defending themselves or whatever.

00:14:49.000 You have a...

00:14:53.000 A sympathy for the criminal that borders on psychotic.

00:15:00.000 And taken to its logical conclusion for them, that's when you get into the argument about, well, why did you have to defend yourself in your own home?

00:15:06.000 Why would you shoot somebody?

00:15:07.000 All he wanted was your TV. All he wanted was the stuff in your safe.

00:15:11.000 Well, the stuff in your safe is the sum product of everything that you've worked for, which is an extension of who you are, and to them that doesn't matter.

00:15:19.000 But you've got to understand their point of view, right?

00:15:20.000 Because I've talked about this when it came to Castle Doctrine in New Jersey.

00:15:24.000 And what I was told by the cops was, in New Jersey, if someone breaks into your house, you are required to flee if possible.

00:15:31.000 And my response was, yes, that's New Jersey.

00:15:34.000 And I said, flee where?

00:15:35.000 And they were like, what do you mean flee where?

00:15:37.000 And I'm like, it's my house.

00:15:39.000 Where do I go?

00:15:39.000 And they were like, tell that to a judge and a jury.

00:15:42.000 And what they're going to say is, you have just confessed you would rather kill a man than stand outside.

00:15:47.000 But you know what?

00:15:48.000 You said, you blame, well, you kind of said leftist, but isn't that just a culture period?

00:15:57.000 In what way?

00:15:58.000 Like, what do you mean?

00:15:58.000 Because on these, like, in Baltimore...

00:16:04.000 I'm sure everybody that rides on the bus is not a leftist.

00:16:08.000 You mean it's the culture in general, which is just basic modern liberalism?

00:16:12.000 Leave it alone.

00:16:12.000 You know, just leave it alone.

00:16:13.000 It's not bothering me.

00:16:14.000 Just leave it alone.

00:16:15.000 That's not because of leftism.

00:16:17.000 That's because they know the consequences of leftists being in positions of authority.

00:16:21.000 Like, if you're just like, I don't want to get involved because I don't want to deal with the repercussions.

00:16:28.000 Right.

00:16:29.000 Like, if you live in...

00:16:31.000 And granted, there is an amount of it because of...

00:16:34.000 Thank you.

00:16:35.000 Meaning you could be...

00:16:36.000 The jury or them getting beat up for being in it.

00:16:39.000 It could be getting hurt, but it also could be...

00:16:42.000 Like, if you live in New Jersey and you're in a...

00:16:45.000 Like, if you can't defend yourself in your home, you clearly aren't going to be in a situation where if you try to defend someone else in, like, in public, you're going to get...

00:16:54.000 You're done.

00:16:55.000 You can't even have a weapon.

00:16:57.000 Yeah.

00:16:58.000 Like, let's not even talk about the idea of trying to protect somebody.

00:17:01.000 You can't even stand there with the right to keep and bear arms.

00:17:04.000 They'll put you in prison.

00:17:05.000 Well, I mean, I had a friend years ago in Baltimore.

00:17:09.000 He was walking downtown in Lexington Market, and three kids come out.

00:17:17.000 Like, give me your wallet.

00:17:18.000 And he was like, man, get out of here.

00:17:21.000 And they kept jumping on.

00:17:23.000 Look, give me your wallet.

00:17:24.000 Give me your wallet.

00:17:25.000 So they start hitting him.

00:17:26.000 Now, he said, hey, I can take these three kids.

00:17:30.000 Ain't nothing.

00:17:30.000 But just as soon as those three kids...

00:17:33.000 got him down on the ground, another 20 come around and bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

00:17:37.000 So, but, you know, you're saying, well, is that the culture?

00:17:42.000 Or is that just...

00:17:44.000 It's a result of the people in positions of power and probably to some extent the families that they're raised in.

00:17:55.000 If you've got police and government that are going to say, look man, this guy got killed because this other guy, he attacked this other guy, and this other guy defended himself, and you let the other guy go home...

00:18:11.000 Then that's going to deter people attacking, like to a certain degree.

00:18:16.000 Police deter people from attacking other people, the possibility of someone defending themselves, because criminals don't want to find someone that is an equal match.

00:18:26.000 Criminals want to find someone that is easy. 0.99

00:18:30.000 They're not that stupid. 1.00

00:18:32.000 Yeah, that's exactly right. 1.00

00:18:35.000 I've gone to a lot of self-defense classes and stuff like that.

00:18:37.000 Not hand-to-hand combat stuff, but self-defense.

00:18:40.000 And it's like, look, if you make yourself look like you're not an easy target, they will select someone else.

00:18:47.000 If you look like you're an easy target, then they're going to select someone else.

00:18:51.000 And I've talked to girls that I dated and stuff.

00:18:55.000 If anyone ever comes and grabs you, make a bunch of noise.

00:18:58.000 If they're trying to put you in a car, make them do whatever they're going to do at the first location.

00:19:04.000 Don't ever go to Crime Scene 2. Because then you're going with them to where they're comfortable, where they have control of the surrounding, the environment.

00:19:13.000 Make a bunch of noise.

00:19:14.000 If you make it difficult for them, a lot of times criminals will be like, I'm out of here.

00:19:19.000 Now that's not perfect.

00:19:20.000 It's not saying that every time that someone tries to attack someone, if they just make a bunch of noise or fight back, then it's not going to be a problem.

00:19:28.000 But if you look like you're an easy target, then you're inviting criminals.

00:19:32.000 It's the same principle as peace through strength on an international level.

00:19:36.000 If you look like you're weak, other countries are going to be like, well, we can push these people around.

00:19:41.000 Have you ever seen the videos?

00:19:42.000 There's whole collections of videos of street cameras that catch women almost being thrown into cars at the Texas border.

00:19:51.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:52.000 Like, it's insane.

00:19:53.000 And the ones that get away are the ones who make the most noise, who make the most scene, and are able to pull away and run as fast as possible.

00:19:59.000 But a lot of times, you know, it's late at night, somebody's been out drinking, and you make yourself an easy target, and that's what it is. 0.99

00:20:06.000 Yeah, and the best advice you can give to people is, first of all, don't go to stupid places. 1.00

00:20:13.000 Don't go to stupid places with stupid people. 1.00

00:20:15.000 I learned that a long time ago. 1.00

00:20:16.000 This is even in Austin.

00:20:17.000 Yes.

00:20:18.000 There was one crazy viral story of a woman. 1.00

00:20:21.000 She said that she was drinking with her boyfriend and his brothers.

00:20:25.000 And when they walked out of the bar, she was texting, and they were 10 feet in front of her when a car pulled up and grabbed her, and she screamed.

00:20:31.000 And as they're trying to throw into the car, the guys run over and grab the door, fight with the guys, grab her, and the car starts peeling away, and they pull her out of the car. 0.94

00:20:39.000 And they were like, she was 10 feet behind her texting on the phone, and they tried to snatch her off the street.

00:20:43.000 Yeah.

00:20:43.000 In Austin.

00:20:44.000 I mean, like...

00:20:47.000 Personally, I'm not a big fan of major cities nowadays.

00:20:49.000 I avoid going to major cities if I can.

00:20:53.000 But yeah, it's not safe to be alone, and these things can happen.

00:21:01.000 But the more...

00:21:02.000 That you have a society that will stand and watch, or if you're in a place where it's more likely that someone will pull out their phone and record it, as opposed to actually help, that makes it more likely that crime will happen.

00:21:17.000 You know, it makes it more likely that criminals will take advantage of those conditions.

00:21:21.000 Will Chamberlain says, What's happened to Daniel Penny isn't justice.

00:21:25.000 Prosecutors successfully dismissed a count the jury hung on to try and squeeze out a guilty verdict on count two.

00:21:31.000 Justice wouldn't merely be an acquittal.

00:21:33.000 It will require Penny to prevail in a civil lawsuit against those who persecuted him for clearly lawful conduct, which means if he's going to actually win this, it's going to be three, four, five years.

00:21:45.000 And again, the point that I was making earlier is that's it.

00:21:50.000 The moment the deadlocked jury was told, don't worry, you can continue, was the moment the message was sent loud and clear to everybody in New York, don't you dare, in any way, try and intervene or do anything.

00:22:03.000 And cops aren't going to do it either. 0.90

00:22:04.000 Luke Rutkowski has got one of his more viral videos.

00:22:08.000 There was a dude on the train.

00:22:10.000 Some guy started stabbing people, and the cops stood there and watched.

00:22:13.000 And the guy stopped the stabber, got stabbed several times, and then the cops were like, we don't have any obligation to save anybody.

00:22:23.000 Yeah, I learned that a long time ago.

00:22:25.000 I had a policeman talking to a couple of policemen, and they were like, you know, we're here to protect and serve, but we really don't have to.

00:22:36.000 Stop a fight.

00:22:38.000 We'll wait till it gets finished.

00:22:40.000 We don't have to stop it.

00:22:42.000 There's nothing that's coming down.

00:22:44.000 No, they're going to file the paperwork after the fact, and then, you know, good luck.

00:22:48.000 Let's jump to the story, though, from the Daily Mail.

00:22:51.000 Brian Thompson manhunt live.

00:22:53.000 Cops find a key item in Central Park in search of the UnitedHealthcare CEO's killer.

00:22:58.000 So apparently, I've been hearing that they found the backpack.

00:23:01.000 They say they've also obtained a DNA swab from a water bottle possibly dropped by the killer who has not yet been identified.

00:23:08.000 They say at the time of the killing, Thompson and his estranged wife, Paulette, had been living in separate homes.

00:23:12.000 So this is crazy.

00:23:15.000 Investigators have found a backpack in Central Park they believe may be linked to UnitedHealthcare CEO Killer, an NYPD spokesperson told CNN. So here's what I think, you know, look, we're obviously tracking the details.

00:23:26.000 A lot of speculation as to whether or not they're going to find this person.

00:23:28.000 It sounds like from the corporate news, this guy may be the killer.

00:23:32.000 And what they're saying is the reason why it's different clothing and it looks very different is that they think this is the guy.

00:23:39.000 Prior to that day where he changed his clothes.

00:23:42.000 And I don't know what the rumor was.

00:23:44.000 Something like he may have been flirting, so he pulled his mask down or something like this.

00:23:47.000 Is that what you heard?

00:23:49.000 That's what I heard.

00:23:50.000 He was flirting, so he took the mask off.

00:23:52.000 So the jacket is different?

00:23:53.000 It's lusted because of the thirst.

00:23:55.000 The thirst, yeah.

00:23:56.000 I just assumed it was like different camera, different color temperature.

00:24:00.000 That's what I thought at first, but it's clearly a different jacket when you look at the structure of the thickness.

00:24:05.000 It looks like Michael Fassbender in Assassin's Creed.

00:24:07.000 When I heard the flirting, I was like, okay, you got Earl Flynn now?

00:24:13.000 Look, we were just talking about Daniel Penny, and these billionaires and these CEOs were all backing the Democrats.

00:24:22.000 You got the CEO who just got gunned down.

00:24:26.000 All of these leftists celebrating it and calling for more.

00:24:29.000 And I'm like, is that the world they wanted to live in?

00:24:32.000 Because now they're living in it.

00:24:33.000 And the rest of us just left the cities.

00:24:35.000 I mean, this might be the best example of it actually directly affecting them specifically.

00:24:39.000 But if the idea here is that they're going to back a candidate, say, who's going to be pro-abortion, where now what they have to do for a lot of times is like, look, we will pay for you to go get an abortion in another city rather than have you take maternity leave.

00:24:53.000 They're going to operate in the best interest of the company until it starts affecting them directly, which is exactly what the leftists on Twitter are so excited about right now, which is why they're rejoicing about it.

00:25:02.000 It's disgusting.

00:25:02.000 You know what?

00:25:04.000 I was reading earlier this morning about CVS. CVS, because of this, they've started taking down the exec pictures and stuff from off the wall.

00:25:14.000 Oh yeah, that was crazy.

00:25:15.000 I was like, wow.

00:25:16.000 What was it?

00:25:16.000 Taylor Lorenz posted the picture of the...

00:25:18.000 Of the CEO of Blue Cross.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, and then a bunch of these companies have taken down all the bios for their executive leadership.

00:25:25.000 That is, look...

00:25:26.000 That is Taylor Lorenz's doing.

00:25:28.000 She engaged in veiled terrorism, and they all responded.

00:25:32.000 And she doubled down on it. 0.99

00:25:34.000 Yeah, Blue Cross reversed the policy, and then all these big companies are now taking their photos and bios down from websites and deleting the pages.

00:25:41.000 This is crazy.

00:25:42.000 So here's what I think y'all need to consider.

00:25:45.000 Do you think that these CEOs, these executives...

00:25:48.000 Saw the news and went, oh geez, and then called and said, take those pages down?

00:25:52.000 Or do you think these CEOs who contract some of the biggest security firms in the world got on the phone and said, what is this about?

00:26:02.000 What do you think?

00:26:03.000 And the security firm said, this is a targeted political hit.

00:26:07.000 So I'll just say this.

00:26:10.000 Having security, my understanding of this is, We don't make moves without consulting security because that's why we pay them.

00:26:19.000 So, you know, we have PO boxes and things like this.

00:26:24.000 When they come to us and they tell us, like, here's the assessment, here's what we consider, we do it.

00:26:28.000 So, for instance, when we were getting swatted in bomb threats, often the show would go on and we'd be like, oh, we were swatted earlier, but you didn't see it because security takes care of these things.

00:26:35.000 But there was that one day where we evacuated the building for three hours.

00:26:38.000 My point is...

00:26:40.000 Their security companies believe there is a strong enough possibility that this is a politically motivated assassination.

00:26:47.000 That's why they took action.

00:26:48.000 And wouldn't reversing policy and acquiescing actually make it worse?

00:26:53.000 Well, I don't know.

00:26:54.000 I can't make an assessment.

00:26:55.000 I might make it worse or not.

00:26:57.000 But I don't think they make any move without consulting lawyers and security.

00:27:02.000 And so they probably go to their security company and say, what is the chance that this is targeting CEOs of healthcare companies or is it anything else?

00:27:12.000 The fact that they actually paid the money to remove this information, because not like it's the most expensive thing in the world, but the bigger the company, the more expensive it's going to be.

00:27:21.000 They probably had to call a dev team and say, we need this taken down, get it done.

00:27:25.000 And then it doesn't cost that much for a company this big.

00:27:30.000 But it certainly means that they put in effort.

00:27:32.000 They must believe there's a reasonable possibility this is politically motivated.

00:27:35.000 I wonder if the security companies actually were like, hey, like reached out and said, look, we're in charge of security.

00:27:43.000 You need to take these down now.

00:27:45.000 It could be this, too.

00:27:47.000 It might be exactly that.

00:27:49.000 Not that they know anything, but that they said, they may have called and said, if you publish your photo and your name, we can't protect you.

00:27:58.000 And so the company then just reacted and did it.

00:28:00.000 Well, you know what?

00:28:01.000 All of the pamphlets and all of the books they have to see your pictures and those, you're going to pull those, too?

00:28:08.000 No, but the idea is first line of the easiest thing first, right?

00:28:13.000 So somebody will take more effort to go and find a pamphlet and then get information on that person.

00:28:18.000 Just because a door lock can be passed really easily doesn't mean you don't lock your door.

00:28:23.000 Website's next.

00:28:24.000 I'll give you guys another example because I'm very pro 2A and I've often said that Look, if you want to carry a gun and we do an event, I don't care.

00:28:32.000 If I don't want to do the event because I'm scared of guns, I won't do the event.

00:28:35.000 And then we can't get insurance or security.

00:28:38.000 So it's not even an issue of what I want and what I believe in.

00:28:41.000 We get told by different security companies, you want to allow weapons in the event?

00:28:45.000 Okay, sorry, we can't protect you.

00:28:47.000 And they were like, you can pay us, but we tell you straight up, there's no security at your event.

00:28:52.000 And we're like, okay.

00:28:53.000 And they're like...

00:28:54.000 So do you want security or not?

00:28:55.000 And then the other issue is insurance.

00:28:57.000 You want people to open carry or conceal carry at your event?

00:29:00.000 Insurance says, sorry, not interested, can't get insurance, can't do the event.

00:29:03.000 Does the same thing hold true?

00:29:04.000 Is that why so many, I mean, among other things, why federal buildings have the same?

00:29:08.000 No, federal buildings are, they've made that law.

00:29:13.000 Like at banks and stuff, or any regular business that says...

00:29:18.000 It depends on the bank.

00:29:19.000 Yeah, most banks have a gun with a circle and a line through it being like, weapons are not permitted in the premises.

00:29:24.000 Unless you're a criminal, then you bring it anyways.

00:29:26.000 In New Hampshire, there's none of the...

00:29:29.000 Private business.

00:29:30.000 A private business, is that not just because federally it's looked upon...

00:29:36.000 What?

00:29:37.000 Is it like that with private businesses because they're not federally bound to have...

00:29:41.000 What do you mean?

00:29:42.000 So if you're at a CVS and you have no guns allowed on the premises, is that because of federal law?

00:29:48.000 Is that just because of insurance?

00:29:49.000 That is likely because of a policy that the store owner has.

00:29:53.000 It's not going to be a federal thing because the government isn't going to say, oh, you can't bring this into a privately owned business.

00:30:03.000 What I want to know is, where is he?

00:30:06.000 Right?

00:30:07.000 Where is he?

00:30:07.000 They say he fled the state.

00:30:08.000 Back to Atlanta.

00:30:10.000 Atlanta?

00:30:11.000 South America, man.

00:30:13.000 Well, that's what they're saying when he bought a bus ticket from Atlanta to New York with a fake ID. Oh, is that what the situation was?

00:30:19.000 Okay, dude, if it's...

00:30:21.000 If this dude actually was flirting with some chicken, pulled his mask down, and that's how he gets caught... 0.83

00:30:25.000 That is the most movie part of the whole plot.

00:30:28.000 It is, right?

00:30:29.000 As much as whether we're talking about the dude clearing the rounds individually, whether we're talking about the fact that he's cool and calm the entire time, doesn't react to the civilian on the side...

00:30:40.000 Whether we're talking about the fact that he absconds, moves, and changes clothes, and then gets caught because he turns around and pulls his mask down to flirt with someone.

00:30:50.000 They've literally done episodes of TV shows where that happens.

00:30:53.000 There's an episode of White Collar, where a guy steals a painting, and then he gets caught on camera, looks back at a girl, and then catches his face on the camera.

00:31:03.000 That's literally this.

00:31:04.000 This whole thing is a movie plot.

00:31:05.000 But you know what?

00:31:07.000 In looking at that video, and we were talking about earlier, nobody says, well, not that many people talk about, there was a guy in the truck.

00:31:14.000 There was a guy in the truck, and he saw everything, and just, okay.

00:31:20.000 Yeah, because he'll become Daniel Penny if he does anything about it.

00:31:23.000 Well, I mean, police always say that cars are weapons, so...

00:31:29.000 I mean, they can be, but...

00:31:32.000 I kind of feel like...

00:31:34.000 Floor it, baby, floor it.

00:31:36.000 The jury makeup in the Daniel Penny case.

00:31:38.000 Look, guys, I want to say, you know, that old Tim Civil War pool is feeling pretty good and optimistic based on this massive sweep.

00:31:47.000 And it is true. 0.71

00:31:48.000 Republicans winning basically everything is indicative of a cultural shift in a positive direction, which will prevent this violent bifurcation.

00:31:57.000 But you look at the Daniel Penny thing and there is some optimism there, but there's a question.

00:32:01.000 So one of the superchats is saying that it's like half men, half women, and one person wearing a double mask.

00:32:07.000 So you know the ideological bent of these people.

00:32:11.000 They don't care what's true.

00:32:13.000 They're angry, emotional, dangerous ideologues.

00:32:17.000 But the question then is...

00:32:19.000 This is New York.

00:32:20.000 Right. 0.81

00:32:21.000 And so if this is only a couple of lunatics who are doing this, are we actually improving and winning back the culture?

00:32:26.000 So we should be optimistic. 0.59

00:32:28.000 Well, I mean, it's not New York.

00:32:29.000 He didn't come from New York.

00:32:30.000 No, I'm saying the jury in New York is comprised of these people. 0.96

00:32:34.000 And it doesn't seem – a deadlocked jury means they're not all woke, insane people.

00:32:39.000 Well, it's the idea.

00:32:39.000 It could be just one person.

00:32:41.000 Yeah.

00:32:41.000 Right.

00:32:42.000 Well, my first thought was it went back to Rittenhouse, right?

00:32:44.000 And Rittenhouse being acquitted seemed like a big cultural moment as well because everybody assumed that he was going to end up going to jail.

00:32:51.000 Yeah, it was scary.

00:32:51.000 Right?

00:32:52.000 So is this the idea that – does this set us back if Rittenhouse was a step forward or does it have more to do with the location?

00:33:00.000 You know what's crazy?

00:33:02.000 People need to think about this.

00:33:03.000 Earlier today on the Culture War podcast, we had King Randall and Maj Touré on and we were talking about BLM and stuff like that.

00:33:11.000 And Jacob Blake came up.

00:33:14.000 Jacob Blake, you guys know who that was?

00:33:16.000 This is the story where a guy goes to his ex-wife's house.

00:33:19.000 He had a warrant for felony sexual assault.

00:33:22.000 And he goes to this woman's house.

00:33:24.000 I don't know if the reports were, it's been a while, that he was actively assaulting her at the time, or she was scared he was gonna, so she called the police.

00:33:30.000 The police try to subdue him.

00:33:32.000 He ignores the cops, breaks free, walks to his car, reaches for a knife.

00:33:35.000 They shoot him, he gets paralyzed.

00:33:37.000 This is not a guy that anybody should be defending. 0.92

00:33:39.000 He should be in jail.

00:33:41.000 The NFL put Jacob Blake on their helmets.

00:33:43.000 All these different teams, they deleted a lot of those posts.

00:33:45.000 But here's the thing.

00:33:47.000 That's why there were protests in Kenosha.

00:33:50.000 At the time, it was all obvious to us.

00:33:52.000 Jacob Blake thing happens.

00:33:53.000 Riots happen.

00:33:54.000 Cut right now happens.

00:33:55.000 But now people forget about the Jacob Blake.

00:33:57.000 The whole reason they were there.

00:33:59.000 The whole reason they were there. 0.99

00:34:00.000 And the fact that mainstream corporate America was supporting the rapist. 0.96

00:34:05.000 Yeah.

00:34:07.000 probably assumed it had more to do with George Floyd.

00:34:09.000 Yep.

00:34:09.000 Like they've all just transposed the time.

00:34:11.000 That's why I was saying it's important to remember that this whole thing with Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't just about a kid who was threatened and then tried to defend himself.

00:34:18.000 It was a riot to defend and protect a rapist who tried drawing a knife on cops.

00:34:24.000 And Kyle Rittenhouse was there to render aid when they threatened to kill him The amount of evil that existed at the time, and I hope, is being pushed aside.

00:34:33.000 The amount of evil was unfathomable.

00:34:35.000 Do you think a lot of this just has to do with the speed of which information moves and the way it's obfuscated from the people that are used in these situations? 0.96

00:34:43.000 Meaning the most useful idiot is the one who goes out and starts protesting without really understanding what they're protesting for? 0.92

00:34:50.000 The way that I have seen it over the years is that the culture only needs a reason. 1.00

00:34:57.000 I mean, well, they don't even need a reason.

00:35:00.000 They just need a little spark.

00:35:01.000 That's it.

00:35:02.000 Because there are just some people out here that just want to just tear things up.

00:35:08.000 They don't care.

00:35:09.000 That's where Antifa came from. 0.76

00:35:11.000 That's where BLM came from.

00:35:12.000 That's where, well, I sort of occupy Wall Street as a grandfather, grandmother.

00:35:18.000 But they just need a reason.

00:35:21.000 And then it goes poof.

00:35:25.000 And they don't care.

00:35:26.000 And they won't stop until, you know, until they get paid or whatever.

00:35:33.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:35:34.000 They won't stop.

00:35:36.000 That's one of the things that we talk about frequently here is the left needs people that are unhappy, right?

00:35:43.000 Because well-adjusted, happy people that are pleased with their lives or feel like they have something that they're working for in their lives, working towards in their lives, Yep.

00:35:55.000 activity.

00:35:55.000 So it doesn't matter if it's a good reason, just like you said, all they need is just some reason, some excuse, and you will have, there are sufficient people that are unhappy where you can get them riled up and say, okay, now it's time to do just break stuff. okay, now it's time to do just break stuff.

00:36:13.000 And it's, it doesn't have to have a target that, that makes sense.

00:36:18.000 It can just be, I'm mad at society, so let's burn things down.

00:36:23.000 Also, there's two layers to that now, because yes, the most violent of them may go out into the streets and perform these acts, but then you also get the further uninformed people that will just do it on social media, which boosts the post there.

00:36:37.000 That's easy.

00:36:37.000 It makes it even easier to reach more people who are unhappy, and it all sparks from there.

00:36:43.000 Palmer Luckey just tweeted this out a few minutes ago.

00:36:47.000 It's a really good point.

00:36:48.000 He says, I hope the NYC assassination gives certain people a hint as to why concern about mass reporting the location of specific private jets is in fact reasonable rather than hysterical.

00:36:57.000 When those – there's that guy who's posting what Taylor Swift's jet and Elon Musk's.

00:37:02.000 People don't understand that these jets land at airports with zero security.

00:37:06.000 So like the airport in Maryland that Ye flew in and out of, it's a four-foot-high chain-link fence with a gate you can pop up and walk in.

00:37:15.000 And if people are saying like, here's where they are, this is the kind of stuff that could happen.

00:37:19.000 Yeah.

00:37:19.000 But that's the sweet spot of where these people like to be, right?

00:37:23.000 Which is rich people, the haves and the have-nots. 0.90

00:37:25.000 And even if the idea is that it's something as stupid as climate change that they're supposedly watchdogging for, that can be piggybacked by people with much worse intentions than just yelling at Taylor Swift on the internet. 0.94

00:37:39.000 Just yelling at Taylor Swift. 0.97

00:37:41.000 I mean, there's a lot of people.

00:37:43.000 Yeah.

00:37:43.000 There's a lot of people that get mad, especially when it's a simple understanding of, oh, it's billionaires, right?

00:37:52.000 This amorphous idea.

00:37:53.000 People that have a lot of money or that they believe have a lot of money because they're quote-unquote billionaires or whatever.

00:38:02.000 Yeah.

00:38:02.000 The idea that that makes it inherently acceptable to attack them and treat them as lesser, that's not new in history.

00:38:12.000 That was the justification for killing all the kulaks in Ukraine in the Soviet Union. 1.00

00:38:20.000 And that ended with millions of the people that killed the kulaks dying because the kulaks were the ones that knew how to farm. 1.00

00:38:28.000 It's not that...

00:38:29.000 Now granted, I'm not making the argument that this particular CEO is like, our society doesn't hinge on this one guy.

00:38:38.000 But the idea that someone that has a lot of money doesn't deserve it because they inherently are bad for it.

00:38:46.000 Jeff Bezos, or the family that owns Walmart...

00:38:51.000 Those people provide thousands and thousands of jobs and they make it easy for millions of people across the country to get food and to get the things they need for their daily life.

00:39:04.000 That doesn't make them the bad guy.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, but I would say it doesn't make them necessarily inherently immoral, but I think all that's bad.

00:39:14.000 So aside from the obvious that Walmart destroys mom-and-pop shops, and that's been a big controversy for a long time, I went to a small town, I think it was in Nebraska, I can't remember, it might have been Oklahoma, and they had a Walmart.

00:39:25.000 And it was kind of wild, I was passing through, but people told me, we used to have a bunch of small shops, Walmart came in, and now the only thing in town is Walmart.

00:39:33.000 Everything's gone.

00:39:33.000 You want to get your car fixed, you go to Walmart.

00:39:35.000 You want to get booze, you go to Walmart.

00:39:36.000 You want to buy guns, you go to Walmart.

00:39:37.000 And so life should not be overly easy.

00:39:41.000 There has to be a degree of challenge in your life to make people more resilient.

00:39:45.000 And while we can certainly say like, yeah, but can.

00:39:48.000 Convenience is different.

00:39:49.000 The problem is it does disrupt local communities.

00:39:51.000 And then the worst thing is there are stories where Walmart has opened a super center in an area.

00:39:57.000 All the small business shut down.

00:39:59.000 And then Walmart realizes a year later it's not profitable and decides to move locations.

00:40:03.000 And now there's nothing.

00:40:04.000 The economy has been decimated.

00:40:05.000 And those businesses can't reopen.

00:40:07.000 That's right.

00:40:07.000 Because you need like 50 grand for your inventory or whatever.

00:40:12.000 And some of it might be generational stores.

00:40:14.000 That's what happened in the town that I was raised in.

00:40:18.000 It's like the whole downtown, Main Street, Ray Street, all those mom and pop shops and everything.

00:40:25.000 They went out and put Walmart on the outskirts of the city.

00:40:30.000 And then they put more of the strip mall shops outside of the city.

00:40:35.000 Now you can just walk, I mean, those old stores, nobody's using the, you know, and it's like, wow, I mean, and the convenience that you were just talking about, Some of the old people can't just get out to the outskirts of the city anymore. 1.00

00:40:51.000 You know, I mean, you know, they might have a Dustbuster bus or whatnot, but I mean, it's a shame that it's like that.

00:40:58.000 But the anger at someone like Jeff Bezos to me is the most interesting because it just feels like it depends on your philosophy for life.

00:41:05.000 So out here, we go by a lot of areas that are very rural that would not normally be able to get packages as quickly as they do, not to mention the jobs that it provides for people who do work, whether as delivery or in a warehouse and things like that.

00:41:19.000 And I look at that and I see that as a marvel of growth and invention, which I find is something to aspire to.

00:41:25.000 Now, there's obviously greater concerns there as far as what it does for the job market.

00:41:30.000 And frankly, if we're talking about overtaking the post office, they lose billions and billions of dollars every year, right?

00:41:35.000 But the point is, is that there is a level of envy that comes with someone's success where they cannot focus on the good provided by a business.

00:41:44.000 They can only think about it in terms of the negative, and that has grown as income inequality has grown in this country.

00:41:51.000 That's one of the problems.

00:41:52.000 Let's jump to this story from the Chicago Sun-Times.

00:41:56.000 Far-right influencer Nick Fuentes charged with battery of Berwyn woman.

00:42:00.000 Marla Rose previously said that Fuentes pepper sprayed her and pushed her down the front steps of his West Suburban home.

00:42:05.000 Now he's facing a misdemeanor charge.

00:42:06.000 Okay, let's clarify a few things.

00:42:08.000 It was two steps, okay?

00:42:10.000 Just two.

00:42:12.000 That's important.

00:42:13.000 That is the clarification right there.

00:42:15.000 I'm going to come out and say it right on the top.

00:42:18.000 These charges should never have been filed. 0.97

00:42:20.000 This should be dropped, and it's ridiculous.

00:42:22.000 I am not a fan of Nick Fuentes, but clearly, if...

00:42:26.000 Okay, the dude, what did he do?

00:42:28.000 He trolled on the internet.

00:42:30.000 He said, your body, my choice.

00:42:33.000 So far away from being offensive and illegal.

00:42:37.000 Look, the dude has said more offensive things in his life.

00:42:40.000 Many people say more.

00:42:42.000 Taylor Lorenz!

00:42:43.000 Yeah.

00:42:43.000 Says substantially more offensive things.

00:42:45.000 And double down. 0.55

00:42:46.000 And double down. 0.55

00:42:47.000 Fuentes starts getting death threats and gets doxxed because of this.

00:42:50.000 These people are celebrating it.

00:42:51.000 By all means, don't doxx people, but you're allowed to insult and not like Nick Fuentes.

00:42:56.000 And then, as the dude's getting death threats, and there's, like, apparently we're a couple vehicles with people in them in front of his house.

00:43:02.000 A woman walks up, apparently she's holding something, her phone, and Fuentes opens the door and pepper sprays her. 0.89

00:43:09.000 He's getting charged for this.

00:43:10.000 He's at his home minding his own business.

00:43:12.000 Look, How many times have there been officers that have been deemed justified in shootings because someone was holding a cell phone and they didn't know if it was a weapon or not?

00:43:19.000 I'm not saying they should be justified.

00:43:21.000 But if Nick Fuentes, all he did was pepper spray and shove somebody because they're walking up to his house?

00:43:26.000 On his property, yeah.

00:43:27.000 On his property? 0.99

00:43:28.000 Now, I certainly think there's an argument of, look, maybe you should call the police and back off because it's stupid to approach the door with pepper spray if you think someone might be trying to kill you. 1.00

00:43:37.000 But the idea that he would get arrested, charged, and mugshotted over this I think is stupid. 1.00

00:43:41.000 It's Illinois. 0.99

00:43:42.000 Yeah, and that's why I'm not surprised because defending yourself is illegal in that state. 0.95

00:43:46.000 It was dumb for him to do that because of where he lives.

00:43:52.000 You should know that the state that you live in doesn't approve of any kind of self-defense, any kind of active self-protection at all. 0.96

00:44:04.000 How long after it happened was he arrested?

00:44:06.000 It looks like it's today.

00:44:08.000 Oh, it happened today?

00:44:10.000 No, the arrest happened today?

00:44:12.000 Yeah.

00:44:13.000 I think the arrest was today.

00:44:14.000 I thought it was before Thanksgiving.

00:44:17.000 He was arrested before Thanksgiving?

00:44:19.000 The 27th.

00:44:21.000 December 7th, man.

00:44:23.000 I don't know.

00:44:23.000 Okay, arrested today.

00:44:25.000 Oh, he was arrested on the 27th.

00:44:26.000 I didn't even realize it was that long ago that he got arrested.

00:44:28.000 Oh, wow.

00:44:29.000 You know, it was Thanksgiving for me.

00:44:30.000 I wasn't paying attention. 0.98

00:44:32.000 I think this is ridiculous. 0.95

00:44:33.000 And a lot of people are posting online, if I'm getting a bunch of death threats, And you show up to my house? 0.97

00:44:39.000 That's what I was thinking too.

00:44:40.000 I was like, you don't know what's coming in his email.

00:44:42.000 You don't know what messages might be left on his phone.

00:44:46.000 I mean, so if somebody just walks up to your house and you ain't never seen these people before and they got something in their head, just like you said, it's a phone.

00:44:54.000 You don't know.

00:44:55.000 I mean, okay, well, I'm going to meet you at the door.

00:44:57.000 So I would say, like, if you live in Illinois, Nick, you shouldn't live in Illinois.

00:45:02.000 That's the big takeaway.

00:45:04.000 I know.

00:45:05.000 So there are some distinctions here.

00:45:07.000 Look, we're in West Virginia.

00:45:10.000 walk up to this property.

00:45:10.000 We have security perimeter and we have security.

00:45:13.000 So even our food delivery guys are like, I don't know, what is it, like a football field away confused because you can't get in.

00:45:20.000 And if you try to get in, you will be severely hurt because there are there's like several signs before you come in.

00:45:27.000 There's a big difference.

00:45:27.000 If you were somehow able to walk up to my front door, it's you if don't do it.

00:45:35.000 I'll just say, please, for the love of all that is holy, do not come to the front door of my house.

00:45:39.000 Cancel Christmas, right?

00:45:40.000 I'm just saying, like, you've already committed a felony at that point, if you're able to make it to the front door, and there's armed security guards who aren't going to wait to ask questions considering we get death threats.

00:45:49.000 The difference for Nick Fuentes is that he's on a public street in a residential area where his property line is 10 feet.

00:45:55.000 And so the argument they're going to make is...

00:45:59.000 This could be a delivery person or a solicitor that he just pepper sprays randomly.

00:46:02.000 He didn't wait to find out.

00:46:03.000 He didn't know it was.

00:46:04.000 He can certainly argue that he was concerned or whatever.

00:46:06.000 But they're going to argue if he really thought he was facing a threat, he would have called the police and he would have went and hid or gone out the back door or done something else.

00:46:14.000 Second I heard this and I heard Chicago, I imagined it being at the house from home alone.

00:46:21.000 Just open the door and the spray just shoots out.

00:46:24.000 Harry and Marv are there.

00:46:25.000 I mean, look, Tim and myself have both moved because of the place that we were living in.

00:46:33.000 Was no longer to our liking.

00:46:35.000 My house is in New Hampshire and I got an apartment here in West Virginia.

00:46:41.000 That's by choice, intentionally.

00:46:44.000 I'm fortunate in that the jobs that I do make that possible or made that possible.

00:46:51.000 But I didn't like the laws in Massachusetts, so I left.

00:46:55.000 You see people doing this from leaving California.

00:46:58.000 A lot of times they're leaving for monetary reasons and going to Texas or going to Florida.

00:47:04.000 But people move out of places that are not to their liking. 0.97

00:47:09.000 Nick doing this in Illinois, Nick was dumb to do this because of where he lives. 0.96

00:47:14.000 It's not that it was wrong of him to do it. 0.99

00:47:18.000 He actually didn't hurt the woman.

00:47:20.000 He mazed her, but he didn't cause permanent damage.

00:47:23.000 He didn't shoot her.

00:47:24.000 Made her famous.

00:47:25.000 Well, yeah.

00:47:26.000 So hold on.

00:47:26.000 I don't think he was arrested.

00:47:28.000 Oh, okay.

00:47:29.000 So all of the stories that are coming up right now from today saying he was arrested, I don't think it was reported that it was on the 27th, but they're reporting now that after the incident he was booked, fingerprinted, and searched on November 27th and ultimately charged with battery and released.

00:47:41.000 Right.

00:47:42.000 He's due in Cook County on the 19th.

00:47:45.000 Yep.

00:47:45.000 Well, you know what, man?

00:47:48.000 I'll tell you, Nick.

00:47:49.000 These court systems are not fair, and they don't care, and they absolutely will take into account everything that he has done.

00:47:56.000 Yep.

00:47:57.000 And so we've seen this before with other personalities.

00:48:00.000 If you're a controversial figure, the judge is going to be like, don't know, don't care, the law doesn't apply to you, you're going to jail.

00:48:05.000 Yep.

00:48:06.000 That's what will happen here?

00:48:07.000 I think the judge is going to...

00:48:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:10.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:48:11.000 Yep.

00:48:12.000 Maybe a short time, but, you know, yeah.

00:48:16.000 If you...

00:48:17.000 Look, everybody knows, if you go to court and you insult the judge, good luck.

00:48:22.000 He's going to be like, okay, lock him up.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:25.000 So, Nick going to court, you're going to get a judge in Illinois who's likely going to be liberal-leaning, and they're going to think to themselves two things. 0.80

00:48:32.000 I don't want to be the person to go light on Nick Fuentes because it's going to reflect poorly on me, and this guy's a dickhead, and so he gets what's coming to him. 0.92

00:48:40.000 The judge is going to be like, lock him up. 0.93

00:48:41.000 Even being not an internet troll and being right-leaning, like publicly right-leaning...

00:48:46.000 You're risking getting a left-leaning judge and the judge deciding that he wants to punish you.

00:48:53.000 Look at Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:48:54.000 He got lucky that the judge was not left-leaning.

00:48:58.000 Look at Daniel Penny.

00:49:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:01.000 So, like, Daniel Penny, you don't even really know his politics other than he wanted to help the people that he was in the subway with.

00:49:09.000 So...

00:49:10.000 Like, Nick Fuentes...

00:49:12.000 Like Donald Trump.

00:49:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:14.000 Donald Trump was a Democrat forever.

00:49:15.000 If they look into Nick Fuentes, his history, which they likely will...

00:49:21.000 They're not going to be kind to him.

00:49:23.000 They're going to say, this kid is a bad kid.

00:49:26.000 He's blah, blah, blah.

00:49:28.000 And I'm not endorsing this.

00:49:31.000 I don't think it's a good thing at all. 0.97

00:49:33.000 I think Nick is silly and I think that he's got some dumb ideas, but I don't have anything personal against the guy. 0.97

00:49:41.000 But this is going to be a bad deal for him. 0.99

00:49:45.000 It's going to turn into something really, really, really bad. 0.99

00:49:48.000 It was very, very dumb to do this in Illinois. 0.98

00:49:52.000 Wait, do you think that he's going to get community service? 0.99

00:49:54.000 Do you think he's going to get jail time for this?

00:49:56.000 I think whatever.

00:49:57.000 He assaulted someone, so he could get jail time, I assume.

00:50:00.000 I don't know what the laws are.

00:50:01.000 I don't know what they're going to charge him with.

00:50:02.000 I don't know what the laws are like in Illinois.

00:50:04.000 What's it called?

00:50:05.000 But I don't imagine he's going to get leniency.

00:50:07.000 I don't think they're going to be like, well, he means well, and so we're going to go ahead and just give him probation, when really what they're going to say is, oh, your body, my choice?

00:50:20.000 So he thought that he was within his rights to mace this person because he obviously thinks that it's their body, it's his to do with, dispose of as he pleases.

00:50:32.000 They're going to see that, they're going to say that, and they're going to be like, throw the book at him.

00:50:35.000 I can see him going in there and the judge looking right dead at him and was like, oh, you're Nick Prentice.

00:50:41.000 You know, it's like, oh.

00:50:44.000 And hopefully he doesn't get a brother.

00:50:46.000 I bet it's, oh man, I bet it's worse than that.

00:50:49.000 The judge is going to get handed the docket and the documents.

00:50:52.000 He's going to go, ugh.

00:50:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:58.000 Or, like, hopefully he's the first case.

00:51:01.000 Because usually, I mean, you know, if judges have been up there for three or four hours, you know, they tend to get a little bit more pissed off.

00:51:10.000 That's it.

00:51:11.000 I don't want to hear it.

00:51:13.000 30 days.

00:51:14.000 Yeah, I mean, I imagine, honestly, I think it'll be way, way more than 30 days.

00:51:19.000 You think so?

00:51:19.000 Yeah.

00:51:20.000 I think that they're going to want to make an example.

00:51:23.000 Or a mace and a push.

00:51:25.000 Yeah?

00:51:25.000 Yeah.

00:51:26.000 Okay.

00:51:27.000 Well, battery, I think it's like, what is it, six months?

00:51:29.000 I don't know, I don't know, but whatever the- I think the maximum could be six months.

00:51:33.000 Yeah, I think whatever the fullest extent of the law allows, I think that that's what the judge will give him.

00:51:39.000 They're going to argue that he instigated and incited by- While he was inside of his home.

00:51:44.000 No, beforehand.

00:51:45.000 They're going to say he intentionally went online and antagonized, instigated, creating a threat he was well aware of.

00:51:51.000 They'll likely...

00:51:51.000 And I'm not saying...

00:51:52.000 I don't know if for sure this happened, but one pathway they might go is they're going to find examples of him gloating, laughing, and saying things like, screw you, what can you do about it, blah, blah, blah.

00:52:01.000 And then...

00:52:03.000 They're going to be like, so he was, so if there's a, I'm pretty sure this is how it works in Illinois.

00:52:08.000 If in Illinois you instigate a fight, then your defense is limited.

00:52:12.000 So if someone punches you and hits battery, and then they can prove that you actually told the guy, what are you going to do about it?

00:52:16.000 You insulted him and said, hit me, I dare you, and things like that.

00:52:18.000 They're like, that's your fault.

00:52:19.000 You instigated a fight.

00:52:21.000 Yeah.

00:52:21.000 So basically what you're saying is that video that he kind of made fun and stuff like that, that could be shown.

00:52:30.000 Everything he said can and will be used against him in a court of law.

00:52:33.000 I don't know anything about the victim, but if she's Jewish, he's doomed. 1.00

00:52:38.000 Well, I don't know.

00:52:39.000 She's woke.

00:52:40.000 Because look at his past rhetoric.

00:52:45.000 Can you imagine if she's Jewish?

00:52:48.000 They've already charged him.

00:52:49.000 And the judge is a brother.

00:52:50.000 I mean, that's like 10 years.

00:52:54.000 Well, as much as I think that any judge could hold it against Nick Fuentes because he's a controversial public figure that says things that offend people...

00:53:04.000 I wouldn't immediately assume that just because the judge is black, he's not capable of being impartial.

00:53:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:10.000 I think typically judges are personal and they have emotions and they're going to weigh that.

00:53:17.000 If it's an afternoon case and he's been up there for a little bit.

00:53:20.000 But that could be anybody, right?

00:53:22.000 That's true.

00:53:23.000 I'll tell you this.

00:53:24.000 If Clarence Thomas was a judge and Fuentes came in, he's not going to be like, I hate this guy, I'm going to throw the book at him.

00:53:31.000 Clarence Thomas is going to do a good job being a good judge.

00:53:33.000 Well, Clarence is a little bit different.

00:53:35.000 He's the cream of the crop.

00:53:36.000 He's the best of the best.

00:53:37.000 He's a little bit different than those judges that are out there doing every day.

00:53:41.000 I agree, I agree.

00:53:42.000 You can't compare the best judge that we have in the entire country with your run-of-the-mill Cook County local district court judge or whatever.

00:53:51.000 Yep.

00:53:52.000 Clarence Thomas is awesome.

00:53:54.000 He's the OG. Yeah, Alito's great too.

00:53:57.000 I'm glad those guys are on the top.

00:53:59.000 And those headlines won't help them either.

00:54:01.000 I mean, white nationalists, really?

00:54:03.000 Yeah.

00:54:04.000 In Chicago?

00:54:05.000 Yeah.

00:54:06.000 I mean, they're going to throw the book at him.

00:54:09.000 But who knows?

00:54:09.000 Who knows?

00:54:10.000 We may be overthinking it.

00:54:12.000 The courts, look, they're lazy. 1.00

00:54:14.000 They don't want to deal with this stuff.

00:54:16.000 They just might be like, how do I make this go away?

00:54:18.000 And then there's two considerations.

00:54:20.000 They could be saying the protesters are going to get mad if we don't get something out of them.

00:54:25.000 So they're going to offer them a plea bargain of some sort that's got to satisfy the activists.

00:54:28.000 Any?

00:54:29.000 Like what would happen with George Floyd in the trial.

00:54:31.000 Well, I don't know that they're – I mean they might be – I mean that's a consideration.

00:54:35.000 They could say, listen, if you let this guy off with anything light, there's going to be riots.

00:54:39.000 These people want blood.

00:54:41.000 I mean I don't know if this would go to that.

00:54:43.000 I don't think that would come to – Not for this or who Nick Fuentes is.

00:54:47.000 And so the court's going to be saying, why did someone show up to his house in the first place?

00:54:53.000 Because he's antagonistic on the internet.

00:54:55.000 Okay, how many of these people are there?

00:54:56.000 There's a lot of people who are mad about this.

00:54:59.000 It went massively viral.

00:55:00.000 Okay, what's the likelihood?

00:55:01.000 What's the ramifications if we give them a plea deal?

00:55:04.000 Like, you could have protests.

00:55:06.000 Well, we don't want protests, so what do we do?

00:55:07.000 You've got to get a conviction.

00:55:08.000 Something.

00:55:09.000 Would her character come into this, too?

00:55:12.000 The woman got pushed? 1.00

00:55:13.000 I doubt it.

00:55:15.000 The consideration is not, did Nick, they don't care.

00:55:18.000 It's not a question of, did Nick do something wrong?

00:55:20.000 It's a question of, how do we avoid political ramifications from this?

00:55:25.000 And it's a question of, here's a question for you guys.

00:55:26.000 Do you think the left would protest if they dismiss the charges?

00:55:31.000 Pardon me?

00:55:33.000 If they dismiss the charges, would the left protest?

00:55:36.000 I don't think so.

00:55:37.000 Then I think dismissal is likely.

00:55:40.000 Because they're going to be like, I don't care about this.

00:55:42.000 They're going to be like, why is this guy, who cares?

00:55:44.000 Push the woman, this is a waste of our time. 1.00

00:55:47.000 There's a dude who just shot three people on the south side.

00:55:49.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:55:50.000 I mean, you know, there's little kids that are getting shot on the front steps and stuff.

00:55:55.000 I didn't see this coming to something that would end up being protests or anything like that.

00:55:59.000 Yeah, no, no.

00:56:00.000 If they say Nick Fuentes pepper sprayed and pushed this woman and he's let go with no charges...

00:56:06.000 I think there's a small, small probability that people might protest and be like...

00:56:10.000 News cycle is so fast now.

00:56:12.000 I just see this disappearing.

00:56:14.000 In which case, then I think it's not likely that they throw the book at them.

00:56:16.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:56:17.000 If there are any protests, it'll be those groipers. 1.00

00:56:20.000 Well, you know what would start a protest?

00:56:22.000 If they want to protest, they'd have to dismiss the charges, issue a public apology, stand with him at City Hall shaking his hand and saying, you're a good person, and that would get you a protest.

00:56:32.000 Had to do it.

00:56:33.000 Had to do it, yeah.

00:56:36.000 I mean, throwing her down the steps.

00:56:39.000 It was two stairs.

00:56:41.000 It barely qualifies as a curb.

00:56:42.000 That's crazy.

00:56:43.000 I don't agree with him doing it, but I also, because of where he lives in Chicago, and I'm from Chicago, someone walks up to your door and knocks, I don't think the appropriate response is what he did.

00:56:54.000 I should say this.

00:56:54.000 I don't know the circumstances.

00:56:55.000 I don't know.

00:56:56.000 He could have got an email saying, I'm coming to your house right now, and I bet he does. 0.58

00:56:59.000 And so when the woman shows up, he's like, oh crap, who knows?

00:57:02.000 But he shouldn't live in Illinois, because the proximity, there's no way to secure himself, and he's going to end up in a situation like this.

00:57:08.000 If he could produce an email in the past few hours that says someone's, like, I'm on the way to your house, then that might be something that could help his case.

00:57:18.000 I bet he has 5,000 DMs, emails, messages of people saying, I'm coming right now to get you.

00:57:22.000 That's possible.

00:57:23.000 Yeah, I mean, actually, maybe then, maybe he produces these and he says, look, this is the constant barrage that I'm under.

00:57:29.000 I know that I say things that are inflammatory, but this is the reason why I behave that way.

00:57:35.000 But you know the photo date is famous, right?

00:57:37.000 Him just standing...

00:57:38.000 I mean, just a picture of him standing up, looking over like Dirty Harry, like, you know, that...

00:57:44.000 Oh, okay.

00:57:45.000 Oh, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd bring up January 6th, too, because he was there.

00:57:48.000 Ha! 0.89

00:57:49.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:57:49.000 Let's jump to the story from Fox News.

00:57:52.000 Sarah Silverman says she's become less political because no one wants to hear from celebrities anymore.

00:57:56.000 Liberal Comics said it wouldn't have made a difference if she'd been more outspoken this election. 0.89

00:58:00.000 I wonder if the real story is that no one wants to hear from you...

00:58:03.000 Maybe, but I feel like it's a win either way.

00:58:06.000 Yeah, I think the reality is here is we have basically had such a decisive win in the culture war that the enemy has been routed.

00:58:13.000 They have fallen from their horses and are fleeing and scattering in random directions.

00:58:17.000 There was also a lot of news coming out this week.

00:58:20.000 Look, George Clooney blames Obama for...

00:58:24.000 Basically turning him into a patsy.

00:58:26.000 You left me with the bag!

00:58:27.000 You left him holding the bag.

00:58:28.000 That's what he said.

00:58:29.000 And there was another article came out today that the activist class in Hollywood is basically, they're taking a step back now and what they're going to do in the future is focus on local elections because they want to keep pushing abortion and climate change propaganda and stuff like that. 0.97

00:58:45.000 And for these actors and actresses, look, last week we had Alec Baldwin and we had Sharon Stone calling all of America, half of America, idiots for who they voted for while condescendingly telling them, well, you don't even have a passport. 0.89

00:58:58.000 How could you possibly know what's good for you? 0.99

00:59:01.000 These people never learn.

00:59:03.000 As much as we make fun of it, this is actually a certain amount of self-reflection that's honestly pretty rare.

00:59:12.000 Do you think that wokeness in Hollywood is being diminished?

00:59:17.000 No.

00:59:18.000 You think it's getting worse?

00:59:19.000 I don't know about getting worse.

00:59:20.000 I think that it ends up staying the same.

00:59:22.000 I think as long as streaming services are just saddled with endless need for content...

00:59:28.000 That there's too much content being made.

00:59:30.000 There's too many substandard content creators that rely on it.

00:59:33.000 And there's too many holes in the system to pull it out and get rid of it.

00:59:38.000 Meaning that, sure, at the level of big budget movies, you'll see a pullback on it in a lot of ways.

00:59:43.000 If you look at the stuff that comes out, they'll go back one direction.

00:59:47.000 But as soon as you go back to television, look, they've got 10,000 shows coming out and only so many good scriptwriters...

00:59:53.000 There is only one Taylor Sheridan and only a few people.

00:59:57.000 Everyone else should be fired.

00:59:57.000 And everybody else should be fired, right?

00:59:59.000 But for the most part, you're not going to see it go away because it's too entrenched in the coastal elite.

01:00:05.000 I'm ready to get rid of every streaming service.

01:00:07.000 Just Paramount.

01:00:08.000 Except Paramount at this point.

01:00:09.000 So I'm watching Landman, and I'm waiting for the next episode.

01:00:13.000 And so I'm like, well, come on, man.

01:00:15.000 Yellowstone is like, it's messed up.

01:00:16.000 It's gone.

01:00:17.000 I don't know.

01:00:17.000 Kevin Gosser's not.

01:00:18.000 And so then I started watching Tulsa King, and I'm like, man, this is good.

01:00:21.000 Landman and Tulsa King. 0.99

01:00:22.000 What it proves to you is you can tell stories that have elements of progressivism in there, as long as you don't treat the characters like morons. 0.99

01:00:32.000 Right. 0.99

01:00:33.000 But Taylor's a great storyteller.

01:00:36.000 Mm-hmm.

01:00:37.000 Everybody go watch Sicario right now after the show.

01:00:39.000 Such an awesome movie.

01:00:40.000 The scene at the border.

01:00:42.000 The border scene.

01:00:44.000 It's probably the greatest masterclass intention building in cinema history.

01:00:48.000 Listen for the dog.

01:00:49.000 Listen for the dog barking.

01:00:51.000 Because they have, what's her face in it?

01:00:53.000 Emily Blunt?

01:00:54.000 Is that her name?

01:00:55.000 She's in it.

01:00:56.000 And it's wild to me that It's a great character.

01:01:00.000 There's action.

01:01:01.000 There's suspense.

01:01:02.000 There's good writing.

01:01:03.000 You can have strong whamons or whatever you want.

01:01:05.000 And then whenever you get these female writers and these woke writers that intentionally want to make strong women woke content, it's just miserably awful. 0.78

01:01:13.000 Yeah, it is.

01:01:14.000 Well, when you watch that movie, it's because you see her just experience the horror of what's going on at the border.

01:01:20.000 And she's not there to be the strong, independent woman. 0.80

01:01:24.000 She's there to look at the horrors of what's going on in the drug war and be the audience's eyes.

01:01:31.000 Did you see that meme where it's like men riding women and it shows like Ripley from Alien and like Katniss Everdeen and this is women riding women and it's She-Hulk twerking?

01:01:38.000 Yeah.

01:01:38.000 It's like men writing lawyers.

01:01:40.000 It's men writing lawyers and stuff like that.

01:01:43.000 Sicario is the dinner scene, right?

01:01:46.000 Yeah, at the very end.

01:01:47.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:01:49.000 That movie's so good. 0.99

01:01:49.000 The first time I saw it, I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:01:51.000 I know, I know. 1.00

01:01:52.000 Look, I almost peed on myself.

01:01:56.000 I was like, I can't believe he just did that.

01:01:58.000 I don't know.

01:01:59.000 You know, with the success of Yellowstone, everybody was talking about how it's like, look, it's not woke.

01:02:06.000 And it's the biggest show right now, and people were claiming that it was like Game of Thrones for conservatives or whatever.

01:02:11.000 And then Costner left, and now the show is just...

01:02:13.000 I don't even know if the show is at this point.

01:02:15.000 I'm not going to watch it.

01:02:16.000 I mean, either.

01:02:16.000 But I'm like...

01:02:18.000 These shows that are massively successful, like all of Sheridan's shows, they are not woke.

01:02:24.000 And there's an element critical.

01:02:26.000 Landman...

01:02:27.000 I didn't even know Landman came out until that viral scene where he's talking to that woman, and he's explaining how wind turbines...

01:02:34.000 And it's such amazing writing.

01:02:37.000 Things you don't even consider.

01:02:39.000 She's in the car and she goes, green energy, you know, what is it, like encroaching on the oil?

01:02:45.000 And he's like, no, oil companies are using alternative energy to power the pumps.

01:02:49.000 And then she's like, what?

01:02:50.000 And then he gets out and he explains the amount of, he's like, do you have any idea how much diesel it takes to get these things, to haul them out here, to put the 12 feet of concrete in the ground, to put it up?

01:02:58.000 They're out here not because it's green energy, because there's no power lines to power the pumps.

01:03:02.000 It's the same thing that he does that they do in Yellowstone when he explains all of the animals that are killed to farm avocados and stuff like that.

01:03:09.000 All it is is it takes a certain level of research on their part and the ability to think past the level of a tweet.

01:03:16.000 Right?

01:03:17.000 Like actually have a discussion.

01:03:18.000 If you listen to his discussion with Joe Rogan and he talks about the process of writing these characters, he says all of it has to do with actually doing your research and allowing characters to be multifaceted and they don't have to do it.

01:03:31.000 One of the problems with a lot of the writing in Hollywood is that if somebody has progressive ideals, they can have no flaws.

01:03:38.000 The point now is that you need to actually be able to write characters again where you can actually be a bad guy and still be the focus of the show.

01:03:46.000 You can be a mid-level person.

01:03:49.000 You can have good traits and bad traits.

01:03:52.000 But...

01:03:53.000 Are you blurring, but is that blurring the line with bad and good?

01:03:58.000 Not in the way that...

01:03:59.000 Destroying culture too, because we were talking about Thanos earlier from the Marvel stuff, you know, it's like total, total badass.

01:04:08.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, you feel for the guy.

01:04:11.000 Oh man, he, yeah, you know, he wouldn't help his world, you know.

01:04:17.000 But when you blur that line of good and bad, there is no more good and bad anymore.

01:04:24.000 There is what they keep trying to do.

01:04:25.000 I'm just so sick of it.

01:04:26.000 Like Rings of Power got roasted because they gave the orcs families and tried to justify the orcs.

01:04:32.000 And it's like the orcs were meant to be malevolent evil and incarnate.

01:04:36.000 And that was it.

01:04:37.000 One of the worst examples this year, if anybody watched the Godawful Crow reboot, which is It's an abomination.

01:04:44.000 Whatever you do, don't see that movie.

01:04:47.000 It's one of the worst things you've ever seen, right?

01:04:49.000 And to your point, in the original Crow, the whole point is there's an extremely poignant anti-drug message to the film that is very, very layered and important to the character because he lives in a city full of chaos, drugs, crime...

01:05:06.000 And he's killed on Halloween, on the eve of his wedding, which is a very, very, you know, poignant thing to think about by criminals.

01:05:14.000 And then when they make the reboot, they're like a bunch of goths who do drugs together. 1.00

01:05:20.000 And it's like, did you even watch the original movie?

01:05:23.000 Bro, bro, you gotta see the Craft reboot.

01:05:26.000 Have you seen that one?

01:05:27.000 No.

01:05:28.000 I recommend it to everybody.

01:05:30.000 And then after you watch it, you're gonna be like, curse you, Tim Pool.

01:05:33.000 How could you?

01:05:34.000 Yo, the original craft from the 90s.

01:05:36.000 It's four teenage girls and they're witches and then they do witch stuff. 0.60

01:05:39.000 It was cool, though.

01:05:40.000 I mean, it was cool.

01:05:41.000 It was fun.

01:05:42.000 They basically start fighting with each other.

01:05:43.000 And it's like an internal conflict and you're like, wow.

01:05:46.000 The new craft, it's like one of the witches is a trans girl, so it's like a male. 1.00

01:05:51.000 And then they use magic to turn the bully gay. 0.99

01:05:55.000 I'm not kidding. 0.99

01:05:55.000 And then the bad guy turns out to be literally the patriarchy. 0.99

01:05:59.000 Of course.

01:06:00.000 It's David Duchovny and he's like, I'm a man and I'm here because I'm in charge and I have the power.

01:06:06.000 Think about that.

01:06:06.000 This is what I'm talking about.

01:06:08.000 Those ideas are so grandiose and stupid when all you have to do is like, wow, the oil industry is crazy. 0.99

01:06:15.000 Let's write about the oil industry because this dude is black bagged by a bunch of cartel members and then basically does a deal with them to... 0.99

01:06:27.000 Taylor Sheridan's...

01:06:27.000 I'm imagining all of his shows.

01:06:29.000 It's like he sees a tweet from a leftist that's really stupid. 1.00

01:06:33.000 Like, we need more wind turbines to offset carbon emissions. 1.00

01:06:36.000 And he went, you idiot. 1.00

01:06:38.000 So he sits down with the executives and he's like, here's one tweet. 1.00

01:06:40.000 And they're like, we could do a show about a guy who works on oil companies.

01:06:43.000 And then what do they have? 0.99

01:06:45.000 Two incredible scenes where it's basically explaining to the audience how dumb they are. 0.99

01:06:50.000 And not like, disrespectfully, making a point...

01:06:54.000 So the opening scene of Landman is some of the best television I have seen in a decade.

01:07:00.000 I don't know.

01:07:00.000 The rest of the series still needs to catch up to how good that opening scene is.

01:07:03.000 It was like an IPO. It starts off at $100 and then drops down to $10.

01:07:07.000 It's still good.

01:07:08.000 Let me just explain without spoiling it.

01:07:10.000 The opening scene of the whole show sells it so well.

01:07:13.000 Billy Bob, he's black bag.

01:07:15.000 Cartel members are like, you think you can come on our land?

01:07:18.000 And then he basically explains the power of the oil industry to these guys with guns.

01:07:24.000 And like, I'm going to spoil it a little bit.

01:07:26.000 They basically set it up so you know how bad these guys are.

01:07:29.000 One guy shoots another guy and he kicks his body over and he's like, you're going to come on my land?

01:07:33.000 And then he's basically like, the oil industry makes $6.8 million off each acre per day.

01:07:39.000 And then he's like breaking down the numbers and he's like, yeah, they're coming.

01:07:42.000 And then the cartel gets scared.

01:07:44.000 And that's how they're like, you know how bad the cartel is.

01:07:47.000 Let me explain the oil industry.

01:07:49.000 And I don't want to spoil it, but you need to see it.

01:07:51.000 And then he's got that next.

01:07:53.000 That should have went viral, too.

01:07:54.000 Then there's another scene where he's basically like wind turbines will never offset the cost of the oil that was required to make it.

01:08:00.000 Because you've got to produce the concrete, lubricate the machine.

01:08:02.000 You've got to ship it, haul it, build the transmission lines for the wind.

01:08:05.000 It takes so much oil to make.

01:08:07.000 You'll never get that energy back.

01:08:09.000 Most television shows are tweets.

01:08:10.000 His shows are threats.

01:08:13.000 Our actual threads just explaining exactly what's going on.

01:08:16.000 It's the same thing that they did in the sequel to Sicario, which is also not as bad as a lot of people pretended to be.

01:08:21.000 But the whole point in that is that they get involved by trying to frame the cartels fighting each other and to get the U.S. government involved in the war on drugs, right?

01:08:32.000 And that's a very interesting premise as well, but it's just not quite as good as the original film because it's more personal.

01:08:38.000 Mary Kingston is Taylor's, right?

01:08:40.000 Yeah, Mary Kingston, yeah.

01:08:41.000 Same thing.

01:08:42.000 I mean, you know, if you go through the first two episodes of that, you're stuck.

01:08:49.000 You're like, oh my god.

01:08:50.000 I mean, it went here, you know?

01:08:53.000 I mean, and you got Hawkeye from Marvel.

01:08:56.000 Jeremy Renner.

01:08:57.000 Yeah.

01:08:57.000 Also, all of this stuff was done infinitely just as well back in the early 2000s with a show called The Wire, which everyone should go watch as well right now.

01:09:04.000 You know, it took me a long time to watch The Wire.

01:09:08.000 I never watched it while I was on TV. But one day I was like, okay, I'm getting sick of watching all of these other things.

01:09:16.000 Let me just check it out.

01:09:18.000 And after the first two, I was stuck.

01:09:22.000 I was binge-watching the whole thing.

01:09:24.000 Yeah.

01:09:24.000 And I live in Baltimore.

01:09:26.000 And the thing is, that actually has a similar scene at the opening, which I thought was extremely...

01:09:30.000 It was just unbelievable, where McNulty is sitting there with one of the kids that's in this gang, right?

01:09:37.000 And there's a dead body there, and he's talking about throwing dice with this kid, and how they let him come back week after week, even though he always tries to run off with the money.

01:09:46.000 And he says, but you know he's going to try and steal it.

01:09:49.000 Why do you let him come back?

01:09:50.000 He goes, you have to.

01:09:51.000 This is America, man.

01:09:54.000 And the whole point of the show is that it talks about the war on drugs right as the war on terror had started and all the resources had been pulled away.

01:10:02.000 And that show actually had the creator of David Simon...

01:10:06.000 They were arrested by local police because it made the police and the government look bad.

01:10:11.000 So they were actually continuously bothered by local law enforcement because they shined a light on them that was negative.

01:10:19.000 But at the same time...

01:10:21.000 Did not portray the drug trade as something to aspire to, but rather its own enterprise with its own problems and issues.

01:10:28.000 And that type of writing is just used to be far more the norm back in the golden age of television.

01:10:35.000 And we're just not there anymore.

01:10:37.000 You were talking about the wokeism in Hollywood and with Sarah Silverman and nobody really wants to hear anymore and stuff.

01:10:46.000 When you, like when Narcos, when Narcos was on for that first season, it's like, okay, I can see how that, you know, this is totally badass.

01:10:58.000 And then the wokeism came in there in the second season when you thought cartels, those boys are really badasses, man.

01:11:09.000 And then all of a sudden you have a homosexual connection. 0.98

01:11:12.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:11:13.000 We wanted a cartoon. 0.89

01:11:14.000 What the hell?

01:11:15.000 A show that did that fairly well.

01:11:17.000 If you ever saw Power...

01:11:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:11:19.000 You ever saw the show Power with Omari Hardwick?

01:11:21.000 And that's a very, very good show.

01:11:24.000 It is a good show.

01:11:25.000 Yeah.

01:11:25.000 I mean, it's got like nine spinoffs now, which I'm not...

01:11:28.000 Have you ever seen Powers?

01:11:29.000 The one about the...

01:11:30.000 Was it the superheroes that...

01:11:33.000 Yeah, it was...

01:11:33.000 Was it Charlton Copley, I think?

01:11:35.000 Yeah, I did not see that.

01:11:36.000 The PlayStation Network TV show?

01:11:38.000 Yeah.

01:11:39.000 What was the one about the cleanup crew that always cleans up after the superheroes destroy the city?

01:11:45.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:11:46.000 Remember that one?

01:11:46.000 There was a show where it's literally just about the people who have to pick up the city after they destroy it in fights.

01:11:51.000 We were talking about this a little bit before the show, but I blame conservatives a lot for not promoting shows that actually are good and only ever complain about shows that are bad.

01:11:58.000 That's true.

01:11:59.000 So I referenced this show called The Order on Netflix, which only got two seasons before getting canceled.

01:12:03.000 The second season villain is literally a Marxist-Communist professor at university.

01:12:08.000 And I'm just like, how come every single conservative wasn't saying, like, watch this show?

01:12:15.000 It's not the greatest show ever.

01:12:16.000 People, they're not giving the chance.

01:12:20.000 My timeline, literally nothing but stuff that I like.

01:12:23.000 But none of it's recent.

01:12:24.000 I don't think conservatives consume as much culture as the left does.

01:12:28.000 And I think this is reflected in everything we see.

01:12:32.000 Conservatives are more likely to be at work.

01:12:34.000 Also, they're not watching TV all day.

01:12:35.000 You know what?

01:12:36.000 I challenge that because there are a lot of ones that are on my timeline because I watch the ID channel a lot.

01:12:47.000 I mean, I'm fascinated with a whole lot of stuff that is going on in the heartland of America.

01:12:52.000 But So many of them are like closet ID. They don't say it.

01:12:59.000 They don't promote it.

01:13:00.000 Just like you said, they don't talk about what's good.

01:13:04.000 They just...

01:13:06.000 We just don't do it.

01:13:07.000 One of the problems is also, if we're talking about social media, the whole point is to go out and complain about something.

01:13:14.000 I tweeted something the other day.

01:13:17.000 It was a response about the mob.

01:13:20.000 People who like mob movies, right?

01:13:22.000 I saw that.

01:13:23.000 Emma Vigelin was tweeting about it.

01:13:24.000 And my point was like, look, people like mob movies because it's a window into a culture that you're just never going to experience.

01:13:31.000 But I spend most of my time tweeting about shows and movies that I like, and nobody looks at that stuff because nobody wants to hear about the stuff that you like.

01:13:38.000 They want to hear about the stuff that you're mad about.

01:13:40.000 I watch mob movies because I just wish I lived in those cultures. 0.98

01:13:45.000 But it's romanticizing for sure.

01:13:47.000 I'm just talking about a Bronx tale.

01:13:49.000 You know what I mean?

01:13:49.000 Like, so...

01:13:52.000 It's far from perfect, but the biker scene I always reference, that is a good example of you treat people with respect, you get respect and kind.

01:14:01.000 You come into someone's neighborhood to cause problems and attack people, and that community will throw you out.

01:14:04.000 That is the type of story that resonates with people.

01:14:07.000 One of my favorite examples.

01:14:08.000 It's a man thing.

01:14:09.000 It's justice.

01:14:10.000 Have you ever seen Heat?

01:14:12.000 With Robert De Niro.

01:14:13.000 There's a scene during the bank heist.

01:14:15.000 You've never seen it?

01:14:16.000 You've never seen it?

01:14:17.000 Well, that's your homework for the weekend.

01:14:19.000 So there's a scene at the bank heist at the end where Robert De Niro's character, where Macaulay comes in and he's robbing the bank and he's talking to the people who he's holding hostage.

01:14:29.000 He says, he goes, do not think about doing anything.

01:14:31.000 Your money here is insured by the federal government.

01:14:34.000 We're not here for your money.

01:14:35.000 You're not going to lose a dime.

01:14:36.000 That's the idea of the gentleman criminal.

01:14:39.000 And people love that idea.

01:14:41.000 When Johnny Depp's Dillinger.

01:14:42.000 I was going to say public enemies, right?

01:14:44.000 Like the gentleman criminal is the type of character that people, because you're never going to live in that world, and it still gives you like the idea of like, maybe I could do that.

01:14:52.000 If I was like, I'm a good person, maybe I could do that.

01:14:54.000 But they know that that's just not a world they're ever going to live in.

01:14:58.000 Dillinger would, I guess the rumor, I don't know if it's true, but he would destroy mortgage papers.

01:15:02.000 And so a lot of people are like, he was like Robin Hood.

01:15:05.000 And I'm like, nah, he just knew that he'd get the public on his side because they were crossing their fingers hoping he'd destroy their mortgage papers.

01:15:11.000 Oh, and they protected him too.

01:15:13.000 Where's he at?

01:15:13.000 He's not here.

01:15:14.000 Shut up, shut up. 1.00

01:15:16.000 I got my house for free. 1.00

01:15:18.000 Or have you ever seen American Gangster?

01:15:20.000 That's a huge part of Denzel Washington.

01:15:22.000 And they talk about, what is it, Bumpy Johnson giving out turkeys at Thanksgiving.

01:15:27.000 That was a big part of that, the allure of those types of stories.

01:15:30.000 People should watch Stander.

01:15:32.000 I'm sure Serge knows all about Stander.

01:15:35.000 Yeah, he does.

01:15:35.000 He's nodding.

01:15:36.000 He knows.

01:15:36.000 Andre Stander.

01:15:37.000 He was a police captain and then turned to a bank robber.

01:15:40.000 So he's like their Dillinger.

01:15:42.000 That movie with, what's his face?

01:15:45.000 Who's that actor?

01:15:46.000 Who played the Punisher?

01:15:47.000 John Bernthal?

01:15:48.000 No, the first film like 20 years ago.

01:15:52.000 From the Highlander?

01:15:53.000 That dude.

01:15:55.000 No, of course.

01:15:56.000 I get Max Headroom off air.

01:15:59.000 I get Matt Frewer off air.

01:16:00.000 But now I'm blanking here.

01:16:04.000 What was the guy?

01:16:06.000 What year?

01:16:07.000 1997?

01:16:07.000 The Punisher film.

01:16:08.000 What year?

01:16:09.000 1997?

01:16:10.000 No, no, like 2000-something.

01:16:12.000 Tom Jane.

01:16:13.000 Oh, Thomas Jane.

01:16:14.000 Okay, yeah.

01:16:15.000 Yeah, Tom Jane plays Andre Stander, and that movie's amazing.

01:16:17.000 And then you hear the story about this guy.

01:16:20.000 Dude, it's amazing.

01:16:21.000 So Stander, the Stander gang, they rob a bank.

01:16:24.000 As they're leaving the bank with all the money they stole, they're listening to the radio.

01:16:29.000 And on the radio, they have an interview and a report with the manager who says, fortunately, the bank missed the safe that was hidden behind a painting.

01:16:36.000 So they slam the brakes, turn around and go back to the bank.

01:16:40.000 The cops have left.

01:16:42.000 They walk up, knock on the door.

01:16:43.000 The guy opens.

01:16:44.000 Sorry, we're closed.

01:16:45.000 And he points the gun, remember me?

01:16:46.000 And then they go and rob the safe that they missed.

01:16:48.000 He broke into prison to break his friends out.

01:16:51.000 And that's like, dude, the story's wild.

01:16:53.000 I recommend it.

01:16:54.000 It was a fun movie.

01:16:54.000 It's from a while ago.

01:16:55.000 Those are the type of stories that resonate with people.

01:16:57.000 And what Hollywood does now is they try to shoehorn ideas of what coastal elites like. 0.83

01:17:03.000 And back in the day, the stories that were told were told by people that really, really loved literature.

01:17:10.000 loved classic stories that they like to adapt you know in a modern way now what you have is people create things for the purpose of streaming rather than to create great art they're looking to create and sell something for a quick buck to netflix well back there in the day just like you said great stories yeah Today's stories, they're redoing those yesterday's stories with that woke-ism that we were just talking about earlier and make it into an eight-series part.

01:17:39.000 Which is sad.

01:17:41.000 Because people back in the day would have loved that.

01:17:43.000 They would have loved the idea of being able to get long-form stories in the way that stories used to be told, but you don't get to keep that.

01:17:50.000 We had them on Monday night movies, and then you had your little Thorn Birds, and then you had the different miniseries and stuff.

01:18:01.000 I mean, just glorious, like, big old rollouts, you know?

01:18:07.000 You know, I wonder if it's just...

01:18:10.000 The glory days, the golden age is over.

01:18:13.000 I mean, we had such...

01:18:14.000 Okay, maybe I'm just crazy and maybe we romanticize the past, but there were a lot of movies that were weird that are classics, like Groundhog Day is a really great example.

01:18:25.000 They don't make that kind of stuff anymore.

01:18:26.000 There's no money in it.

01:18:28.000 Exactly, but that's a film that everybody knows.

01:18:32.000 Oh yeah, I've seen it.

01:18:33.000 They do Live, Die, Repeat.

01:18:34.000 Edge of Tomorrow.

01:18:35.000 Yeah, let's do the same concept of making an action movie.

01:18:37.000 I like that movie too.

01:18:39.000 But look at Mission Impossible.

01:18:41.000 I love those movies, but they are not Groundhog Day.

01:18:43.000 If someone said you want to watch a movie and I had a choice between Mission Impossible and Groundhog Day, I'm watching Groundhog Day.

01:18:47.000 I will watch that movie five times in a row.

01:18:49.000 And hopefully they don't redo it.

01:18:51.000 Yeah, I know.

01:18:52.000 You will know it's over when they end up redoing Back to the Future.

01:18:56.000 Aren't they?

01:18:57.000 I don't know.

01:18:57.000 I believe the director said that that is off the table because it's not going to happen.

01:19:02.000 But for the most part, what it is is that streaming has killed the mid-budget movie.

01:19:08.000 Also, we don't have Tony Scott anymore, which also sucks.

01:19:11.000 You know why they can't do Back to the Future?

01:19:12.000 Sorry to interrupt.

01:19:13.000 Because if you went 30 years ago, it would be 1994 and it would be too similar.

01:19:19.000 So, like, from 85 to 55 was kind of a big shift in culture.

01:19:24.000 And...

01:19:25.000 And technology, too.

01:19:26.000 Right, right.

01:19:27.000 Now it's like, certainly if it went to 94th, they could be like, wow, look, people are wearing flannels and they have holes in their jeans, but it would still be...

01:19:36.000 There's still people wearing flannels.

01:19:38.000 Exactly, that's what I mean.

01:19:39.000 Like nothing changed.

01:19:40.000 Right now, all of the movies that would have that type of creativity, which used to go to the theaters, which never made their money back in the theaters.

01:19:47.000 They would make their money on home video sales and DVDs and pay VOD like pay-per-view was back in the day.

01:19:54.000 All of that now goes straight to streaming.

01:19:56.000 And let's face it.

01:19:57.000 When you go to a streaming service, you scroll past 10,000 things that you don't actually look at.

01:20:03.000 And there's a movie, however, if you are looking for some hilarious nostalgia, I've not seen it yet, but I believe that there's an A24 movie that came out yesterday or today called Y2K, where it's the night of Y2K and it actually goes wrong and all of the appliances come to life and kill you.

01:20:18.000 Oh, okay.

01:20:19.000 I got a question for you.

01:20:20.000 It's apparently bad.

01:20:20.000 What's this trend in all of these indie films where they don't know what an ND filter is?

01:20:24.000 Have you noticed this?

01:20:26.000 As in, like, the lighting-wise?

01:20:28.000 Yeah, the lighting's all blown out all the time.

01:20:29.000 CGI. Oh, no, no, no.

01:20:31.000 See, it depends on what we're talking about.

01:20:33.000 If it's indie films, that's just stylized, low budget, right?

01:20:38.000 So they're giving them minimal budgets to do that?

01:20:40.000 Well, ND filters aren't expensive.

01:20:41.000 But also, when we come to Marvel, if you ever wonder why everything looks like it was filmed at permanent dusk now, have you ever noticed that?

01:20:48.000 Yeah.

01:20:49.000 It hides bad CGI, but everything that is shot now, that CGI, have you ever been outside and you're driving home, it's too early to turn your lights on, but it's also kind of dark?

01:21:01.000 Everything is filmed right when it's just too light to put your lights on, but too dark to see without them.

01:21:07.000 People pointed out, remember District 9?

01:21:10.000 Like, how come the CGI on those aliens look so good, and it was because their exoskeletons were meant to look hard and plasticky?

01:21:17.000 Also, what year did it come out?

01:21:19.000 It was like 2000-something, wasn't it?

01:21:21.000 So...

01:21:21.000 2009?

01:21:22.000 Back then, they would actually go film on physical locations.

01:21:26.000 Right.

01:21:27.000 They would actually...

01:21:28.000 So there was a movie that came out last year.

01:21:29.000 It was called The Creator.

01:21:30.000 It was made by Gareth Edwards for like $80 million.

01:21:34.000 He did it with like an entry-level pro camera.

01:21:36.000 And it looks better than like 80% of the movies that come out right now and better than every Marvel movie that's come out in the last five years because he goes to physical locations and all of the space tech, everything is filmed in an actual physical place so the matting is easier to do in post.

01:21:54.000 Can I just ask, how come we haven't gotten a sequel to District 9?

01:21:59.000 They're probably just trends.

01:22:01.000 I mean, that movie was good.

01:22:03.000 Was it really good or was it just good?

01:22:05.000 I think they're making a third Pacific Rim now, too.

01:22:07.000 Have you seen it?

01:22:10.000 Pacific Rim, I would watch over and over again.

01:22:13.000 I don't think I would watch District 9. Alien ship comes to Earth, it's hovering over, what is it, like Johannesburg or something?

01:22:20.000 And it's all like nasty garbage. 0.76

01:22:21.000 And they're—and so, like, these are civilian aliens with no expertise who have no idea to survive, so they're kept in a refugee camp, basically. 0.99

01:22:29.000 Right.

01:22:30.000 And then Charlotte O'Copley's character finds a device, gets sprayed with it, starts turning him into one of the aliens, and then they end up leaving at the end because there was a specialist alien who was trying to get the ship back in order to rescue his people and leave the planet— We need a resolution to that story, man.

01:22:45.000 I like that movie.

01:22:46.000 Superheroes have eaten up those budgets for...

01:22:48.000 That's true.

01:22:49.000 What it is is also it's IP, meaning that stuff that has name recognition is going to get made first now.

01:22:57.000 Man, it's...

01:22:58.000 If they make another Transformers movie, I swear to God.

01:23:01.000 I'm so tired.

01:23:02.000 I will watch it and I will love every second of it.

01:23:04.000 Really?

01:23:05.000 Look, I gotta be honest.

01:23:06.000 Transformers 1 was good.

01:23:07.000 I will watch anything Michael Davis.

01:23:09.000 I sat there and I watched it with my daughter a couple weeks ago.

01:23:12.000 She came home from college.

01:23:13.000 She was like, just watch it with me.

01:23:15.000 I didn't think it was going to be good.

01:23:17.000 Transformers 1 is good.

01:23:18.000 It's good.

01:23:19.000 Look, I will watch Mission Impossible movies even if Tom Cruise is in a wheelchair the whole time. 1.00

01:23:25.000 Those movies are fun.

01:23:26.000 But they're not great masterpieces.

01:23:29.000 It's chocolate cake.

01:23:30.000 I know what I'm getting with it.

01:23:31.000 I'll have a slice.

01:23:32.000 It's fine.

01:23:33.000 I don't eat chocolate cake, by the way.

01:23:34.000 But okay, it's...

01:23:36.000 I don't know.

01:23:36.000 It's a nice serving of ahi tuna tartare.

01:23:41.000 Okay.

01:23:41.000 I know what I'm going to get.

01:23:42.000 It tastes great.

01:23:43.000 It's awesome.

01:23:45.000 But it's not that magical moment.

01:23:47.000 It's just another meal that I had.

01:23:48.000 Actually, a better example is if it's like a lettuce-wrapped cheeseburger.

01:23:51.000 He's got to be running in all of them.

01:23:53.000 I still think that Michael Bay...

01:23:57.000 He will do that, right?

01:23:58.000 Like up into his 80s.

01:24:00.000 I hope he does.

01:24:00.000 That'd be amazing.

01:24:01.000 I'm not even joking.

01:24:02.000 But Michael Bay, there's a reason why it works, right?

01:24:05.000 It's because he's got the swelling music, tons of military porn all over set, right?

01:24:10.000 Slow motion, 360 camera shots, and it's meant to be seen on the big screen.

01:24:15.000 I will watch all of those.

01:24:16.000 At least, okay, not all of them.

01:24:17.000 I'll watch the first three Transformers movies anytime you put them on, even if they're bad.

01:24:21.000 What's the one that he did with Ryan Reynolds, Michael Bay?

01:24:25.000 It was on Netflix.

01:24:27.000 Oh, Six Underground.

01:24:28.000 Let me tell you, that was Transformers without Transformers.

01:24:31.000 Yeah, it was.

01:24:31.000 I mean, with that big magnet.

01:24:33.000 That was one of the biggest budgets ever given to a movie in the early days.

01:24:37.000 And it was great, and they should have came out with another one.

01:24:39.000 I don't think it was very well received.

01:24:41.000 I know, but I mean, all that action that was...

01:24:44.000 Just go watch The Rock.

01:24:46.000 That's what I was telling people the other day.

01:24:48.000 Go watch The Rock with Sean Connery.

01:24:50.000 That's good too.

01:24:51.000 That's good too.

01:24:53.000 I listed just the other day, just because I thought it was funny, I listed the cast to it, and all of them are successful.

01:24:59.000 It's like this long, the amount of people in that movie.

01:25:02.000 Did you hear about how The Rock was attached to Sean Connery's James Bond movie?

01:25:10.000 Yeah, there's the theory that it's another James Bond movie.

01:25:14.000 Yeah, it's connected.

01:25:16.000 How he disappeared for so long.

01:25:19.000 I love Ed Harris, Sean Connery, all of those people.

01:25:24.000 It's amazing.

01:25:26.000 Somebody said that District 10 is coming, but the last story I see is from March of 2020 of this year, and it's like, maybe...

01:25:36.000 What year did the original come out?

01:25:39.000 2009. I mean, there's the possibility that they could end up making another one.

01:25:43.000 I don't think that that's an unreal...

01:25:45.000 I mean, it's a long period of time, but it's not out of the question.

01:25:49.000 I mean, it's been a long time.

01:25:51.000 And I feel like it was still kind of a niche movie, right?

01:25:54.000 It wasn't some big blockbuster.

01:25:56.000 I would like to see it.

01:25:57.000 But I also heard that it got its start because it was initially him attempting Halo stuff.

01:26:04.000 Maybe.

01:26:04.000 Is that the case?

01:26:05.000 Someone super chatted that that was originally supposed to be the Halo movie.

01:26:08.000 They're making 28 years later.

01:26:10.000 I'm down for that.

01:26:11.000 Yeah, I'm just saying, if we're talking time periods between movies, 28 years later just got finished.

01:26:16.000 I remember the first time I watched 28 Days Later, and my friend was telling me to watch it, and they're like, yeah, but the zombies can run.

01:26:22.000 I was like, what?

01:26:24.000 Zombies don't run? 0.98

01:26:25.000 They're like, yeah.

01:26:26.000 But in this, they do.

01:26:27.000 They do.

01:26:29.000 That's way scarier, right?

01:26:30.000 What was scary about, like, I remember watching the original Nine of the Living Dead, and I'm like, what is scary about this?

01:26:35.000 You just walk past them.

01:26:36.000 Well, no, it's the same concept.

01:26:38.000 You watch any horror movie, right?

01:26:39.000 And Michael Myers is just walking, and have you ever seen the parody skits where they're running, and he's just walking, and he's still right behind you?

01:26:48.000 You have no idea how that works.

01:26:50.000 There's a funny tweet where someone was like, what do mummies do? 0.90

01:26:52.000 You know, like a werewolf will kill you or bite you, make a werewolf a vampire will drain your blood.

01:26:56.000 Like, what do mummies do if they get you? 1.00

01:26:59.000 That's true, that's true.

01:27:01.000 I have no idea.

01:27:02.000 The mummy's trying to get you, and then what? 0.96

01:27:04.000 I mean, all I remember back when I was a little kid watching the mummy is like, ah, don't let him catch you.

01:27:10.000 But you're right, he's like, why?

01:27:11.000 What do mummies do? 1.00

01:27:13.000 I have no idea.

01:27:14.000 They just, well, I mean, like, with Brendan Fraser, he grabs you and then goes, and sucks your flesh into his body.

01:27:20.000 That's scary.

01:27:21.000 Now that's scary.

01:27:22.000 If that's what mummies did, I would run from them. 1.00

01:27:24.000 Right now, I just genuinely don't know.

01:27:27.000 I don't know why I'm supposed to be scared of you, other than you're dusty and old.

01:27:31.000 That's funny.

01:27:32.000 Skeletons aren't scary.

01:27:33.000 They weigh very little and would fall apart with relative ease.

01:27:37.000 And they shake, rattle, and roll a little bit.

01:27:40.000 The skeletons from Jason and the Argonauts were scary, but that was because they had swords.

01:27:45.000 short films that just fix movies.

01:27:47.000 And I was like, one that everybody always talks about doing that we should do is like, it's Indiana Jones.

01:27:51.000 But when he gets, he gets this like, you know, the thing that kicks off his adventure in the Ark of the Covenant, he just says, I'll pass.

01:27:58.000 And then it just jumps to the end scene as it exactly would have happened no matter what with the Nazis finding the Ark and then all dying.

01:28:04.000 And then that's it.

01:28:04.000 Like whether he does it or not, it's a three minute long movie.

01:28:07.000 It's over 10 minutes.

01:28:09.000 Have you ever seen that scene in Scary Movie when he's running up the stairs after and she keeps throwing stuff down at him and finally hits him with a pee.

01:28:15.000 Right, right, yeah.

01:28:18.000 They're making another scary movie, too.

01:28:20.000 They shouldn't.

01:28:20.000 Oh, man.

01:28:22.000 Like, scary movie was good, and then they kept making all of those movies, like epic movie and superhero movie, and it's like, just stop.

01:28:28.000 But it made money, and the budgets were dirt, and they were like, look, people laugh at things they've seen before.

01:28:35.000 Whether it's a joke or not, you need only be like...

01:28:38.000 Spider-Man's upside down, and everyone laughs.

01:28:41.000 Comedies used to be the other way that you could make money on a small budget, but now it's pretty much just horror is the only genre that costs very little with strong return on investment.

01:28:51.000 If I see one more movie where the description of the movie is a mother and her child must combat a mysterious force...

01:28:57.000 I'm going to throw the remote at the TV. At the house they've moved into.

01:29:00.000 Exactly!

01:29:02.000 I'm on Amazon and I'm like, shut her, let's go.

01:29:04.000 And it's like, a mother and her child move to a new home.

01:29:06.000 Can one of these people live in the city, please?

01:29:09.000 Like, they're all that.

01:29:11.000 And then I saw the, you see that Mel Gibson movie?

01:29:14.000 That came out, I think it was this year, where he's Old Man Carruthers.

01:29:19.000 You haven't seen this one?

01:29:20.000 Well, I'll watch anything Mel Gibson, because The Patriot is the greatest movie of all time.

01:29:24.000 And Lethal Weapon.

01:29:25.000 Also great.

01:29:26.000 And so I watched it, and the description was literally like, a kid must fight a mysterious force.

01:29:32.000 And I'm like...

01:29:33.000 They always do.

01:29:35.000 Yeah.

01:29:36.000 And it was like...

01:29:37.000 I give the movie a C-, but Mel Gibson's in it, so, you know, that's an A+. What's one movie that you would watch...

01:29:44.000 That you could watch all weekend.

01:29:46.000 The Patriot.

01:29:47.000 The Patriot.

01:29:48.000 Have you seen it?

01:29:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:50.000 I will put that movie on repeat and just stare at it.

01:29:53.000 I mean, I like...

01:29:54.000 I will not blink.

01:29:55.000 I like the villain in there, you know.

01:29:58.000 You! 0.99

01:30:01.000 How's the boy?

01:30:01.000 Did he die?

01:30:02.000 You know, I mean, I love that part.

01:30:05.000 Who played the villain?

01:30:06.000 It was, um, what's his face?

01:30:07.000 I don't know.

01:30:08.000 Severus Snape.

01:30:09.000 No, no, no, he's not Snape.

01:30:10.000 Alan Rickman.

01:30:11.000 No, he's not Snape.

01:30:11.000 I'm sorry.

01:30:12.000 He's Malfoy.

01:30:13.000 He's Lucius Malfoy.

01:30:14.000 Oh, I don't know that actor's name.

01:30:17.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:30:17.000 I can't believe I'm forgetting this guy's name. 0.87

01:30:20.000 He played in Armageddon, too.

01:30:22.000 It was Jason Isaacs.

01:30:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:30:25.000 Jason Isaacs.

01:30:25.000 Oh, man.

01:30:26.000 The OA. That was a terrible show. 0.85

01:30:27.000 But mine...

01:30:28.000 OA. Mine that...

01:30:30.000 I go to sleep with this almost every night is Crimson Tide with Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman.

01:30:37.000 I cannot get over how great...

01:30:41.000 I mean, the change of command...

01:30:59.000 I'm going back and forth a couple of times.

01:31:03.000 Everybody's questioning this.

01:31:04.000 It's like, wow, this is crazy.

01:31:07.000 What movie do you guys think I have seen more than any other movie?

01:31:11.000 What would your guess be?

01:31:12.000 Oh, I wish I had time to think about this.

01:31:15.000 I don't think you're going to be able to guess, but I'm just curious.

01:31:18.000 What movie do you think I have watched more than any other movie?

01:31:22.000 I have no idea.

01:31:23.000 The notebook.

01:31:23.000 The Dark Knight.

01:31:25.000 That's a great movie.

01:31:27.000 Not only is it a great movie, but when I lived in LA, I shared a studio apartment.

01:31:31.000 How long ago was this?

01:31:33.000 13 years ago?

01:31:33.000 I shared a studio apartment with my friend, and so there was a closet that was six feet long and three feet wide, and it's a studio.

01:31:40.000 So it's like, hey, I'm sleeping in there.

01:31:42.000 And so it was like four feet wide.

01:31:45.000 So I had my laptop.

01:31:46.000 I had one DVD. The Dark Knight.

01:31:48.000 The Dark Knight.

01:31:48.000 And I like watching TV as I fall asleep.

01:31:51.000 So I think I've seen The Dark Knight over a hundred times.

01:31:55.000 Because every night I'd get home, I'd put The Dark Knight on and play it and then lay down and I would watch The Dark Knight every single night.

01:32:02.000 That's what I do with Crimson Tide.

01:32:03.000 I mean, there are times when I hear the music while I'm dreaming and I'm hearing certain military types and there I am in the military once again.

01:32:16.000 Oh yeah.

01:32:17.000 I used to put on Adult Swim when I would fall asleep, and then I would always have dreams where I was hanging out with the Scooby gang, and we'd be solving mysteries.

01:32:24.000 It'd be the weirdest dreams, but it's because Scooby-Doo's on!

01:32:28.000 You ever try to put that back on now and recapture that?

01:32:30.000 I would do that too, but it would always be like C-Lab would be on.

01:32:33.000 C-Lab 2021. No, because I'm watching C-Lab and The Family Guy reruns and like...

01:32:40.000 Teen Hunger Force, whatever.

01:32:42.000 Aqua Teen, but then what was the other one?

01:32:44.000 Brack Show.

01:32:45.000 But anyway, when you fall asleep, eventually it turns back into regular Cartoon Network.

01:32:49.000 And so by the time I'm starting to wake up, I'm hearing Scooby-Doo.

01:32:54.000 And so in my mind, I'm like running with Scoob and the gang.

01:32:58.000 You know, I'm having this dream where we're like solving a mystery and everything.

01:33:01.000 And then I wake up and Scooby-Doo's on and it's wild.

01:33:03.000 Running with Scoob and the gang.

01:33:05.000 That's right, man.

01:33:05.000 Those are the best dreams I've ever experienced.

01:33:08.000 I've seen Batman Begins more than the Dark Knight.

01:33:12.000 I prefer Batman Begins.

01:33:14.000 I've only seen it like two times.

01:33:15.000 I've seen Dark Knight like over a hundred times.

01:33:17.000 As far as like being a comic book movie, like the way the Narrows were designed in Batman Begins feels much more akin to an actual comic book film, whereas the Dark Knight is much more of a crime thriller.

01:33:29.000 But both of them are very, very good.

01:33:30.000 And I don't think that the Dark Knight Rises is as bad as people say.

01:33:34.000 Just not as good as the other two.

01:33:36.000 People say that it's bad?

01:33:37.000 Yeah, that was filmed during Occupy, so we were down there, and they, like, I forgot, it wasn't, I don't know if it was directly during Occupy, but I remember it was around that time, and the activists were asking the people making it, like, what's going on, what's it about, and they were all like, you guys are gonna love this movie.

01:33:54.000 Which is funny because...

01:33:55.000 No, but it's messed up because Bane is manipulating the popular sentiment to destroy and try and blow up the city.

01:34:02.000 I'm like, why would they like this?

01:34:03.000 No, they wouldn't.

01:34:04.000 I think they might.

01:34:06.000 There's really great documentaries or video essays that have been done about the political philosophy of Christopher Nolan as it relates to The Dark Knight Rises.

01:34:14.000 And he says that his favorite scene that he's ever shot is the airplane scene at the very beginning when Bane pulls them from one plane to the other.

01:34:22.000 I mean, that was a cool scene.

01:34:23.000 That was a cool scene.

01:34:24.000 I did really like the Nolan Batman films for things like that.

01:34:28.000 That was cool.

01:34:29.000 And in The Dark Knight, when he does the skyhook, that's awesome.

01:34:33.000 And come on, when the Joker makes the pencil disappear, so...

01:34:38.000 Gone!

01:34:39.000 Well, that's...

01:34:40.000 Apparently the line where he says, you think you can just steal from us and walk away?

01:34:45.000 And he says, yeah.

01:34:45.000 That was ad-libbed.

01:34:47.000 Oh, really?

01:34:47.000 That wasn't supposed to be there.

01:34:48.000 If you look in the script, it's not in there.

01:34:50.000 He just said it because he felt like it was in character.

01:34:52.000 Yeah, dude, so good.

01:34:53.000 Boy, this one is like, let's not lose our head, you know?

01:34:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:59.000 What does he say, blow or something like that?

01:35:01.000 Out of proportion.

01:35:02.000 Yeah, and he's got his thumb on the grenades.

01:35:04.000 Yeah.

01:35:05.000 Man, that was very well done.

01:35:06.000 And the crazy thing is, anybody who is smart knows that he's the good guy.

01:35:12.000 Joker is the good guy in that film.

01:35:13.000 I mean, Joker is the good guy, but it doesn't mean that Batman was the bad guy.

01:35:17.000 No, Batman was the bad guy.

01:35:18.000 Have you guys seen the essays on this one?

01:35:20.000 The video essays where people have broken this down?

01:35:22.000 You've got a city that is so vile with crime that the League of Assassins are trying to just murder everybody and destroy it.

01:35:32.000 And so the police can't be trusted.

01:35:35.000 The system is bringing no justice. 0.73

01:35:36.000 It's only when a violent, wealthy vigilante goes around beating the crap out of people with his bare hands does anything start to change but only results in escalation. 0.83

01:35:45.000 The Joker gets rid of the mob and the vigilante. 0.99

01:35:49.000 By the end of the Dark Knight, he's gotten rid of the corrupt, psychopathic DA that everyone thought was good but was actually a murderous lunatic. 0.70

01:35:55.000 He's gotten rid of the dangerous vigilante and he's gotten rid of all of the mafia. 0.87

01:35:59.000 All the gang. 0.70

01:36:00.000 You could make the argument that he created the dangerous lunatic given the...

01:36:04.000 But the point in these essay exposés was like, Harvey Dent appears to be a Boy Scout, but when put under pressure, quickly turns to villainy and murder.

01:36:17.000 And the point was, should he sit in power for too long, he would have been exposed to that degree of pressure that the Joker put him under, and he would have become a corrupt DA. So the Joker's whole plan was...

01:36:29.000 Basically, clean sweep.

01:36:31.000 And he did what the League of Assassins could not do.

01:36:33.000 And then Dark Knight Rises, Batman's retired, and the mob is gone.

01:36:38.000 Nobody ever explained those knee implants.

01:36:41.000 The knee braces that just magically fix his knees?

01:36:44.000 I want those.

01:36:44.000 I was like, what is squeezing your knees really tight with metal to fix it?

01:36:50.000 Destroy that wall.

01:36:51.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:36:51.000 God darn, man. 1.00

01:36:52.000 Yeah, I wish I had that for my military need. 0.99

01:36:55.000 I thought it was funny how they made Catwoman a cat by having her goggles go up and it looked like ears.

01:36:59.000 I'm like, ha ha.

01:37:00.000 Very funny.

01:37:00.000 I get it.

01:37:01.000 All right, everybody.

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01:37:29.000 The deplorable Mrs. Drake says, Anna Kasparian had an hour-long sit-down with Glenn Beck.

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01:37:46.000 More updates to come.

01:37:47.000 Can't say much for now.

01:37:49.000 But our mission and our plan is we'd love very much to have 10,000 Casper locations all over the planet.

01:37:56.000 And I think we're doing well.

01:37:58.000 We need a Casper energy drink.

01:38:00.000 That's what I was telling Phil earlier.

01:38:01.000 I was like, I can't drink coffee.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, well, so I mean, we've been discussing that.

01:38:06.000 It's not so easy.

01:38:07.000 Look.

01:38:08.000 This is one of the challenges that we have here.

01:38:10.000 If I was solely focused as a CEO on one thing, we'd have the biggest coffee shop chain.

01:38:15.000 We'd have the biggest energy drink company.

01:38:17.000 We work around protein bars.

01:38:18.000 We just can't get these things off the ground because I don't have time to manage all of these projects and do these shows.

01:38:23.000 But we do have some plans, and I think we can figure something out, so we'll get there.

01:38:27.000 Let's go!

01:38:29.000 Grofty says, Phil may not know me, but I know the buck, buck, buck.

01:38:32.000 Chickens know that. 0.96

01:38:34.000 Did you guys hear that shocking report about Pete Hegseth?

01:38:37.000 That he only has 21 chickens.

01:38:39.000 Good grief.

01:38:40.000 His mom was on Fox News and she said that, you know, they have someone taking care of 21 chickens and I was aghast.

01:38:46.000 Those rookie numbers.

01:38:47.000 I know.

01:38:49.000 I'm supposed to trust him to be Secretary of Defense and he only has 21?

01:38:51.000 He doesn't even have a dance party.

01:38:52.000 I bet he hasn't even seen Chicken City.

01:38:55.000 Unreal.

01:38:56.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:38:56.000 21 is actually a pretty base number.

01:38:58.000 My co-host Jason Robinson talked about Chicken City a lot.

01:39:03.000 He was like, oh my god.

01:39:04.000 And he just loves all of y'all.

01:39:08.000 Chickens are awesome. 0.95

01:39:09.000 But yeah, he was like, man, y'all, you need to see it.

01:39:14.000 And you know, they got this compound and they got Chicken City.

01:39:18.000 The chickens do live better than I do.

01:39:20.000 If you give a $5 super chat to Chicken City, it will dispense mealworms and they'll all come running.

01:39:27.000 And then every time $100 comes in, a party starts.

01:39:31.000 And then it sprays tons of mealworms and plays dance party music.

01:39:34.000 It's like with us, but without the mealworms.

01:39:36.000 That's right.

01:39:37.000 Well, that's actually where we got the idea for Pop Culture Crisis.

01:39:40.000 So we had chickens and I was like, can we set something up with a live stream to where people can give money so that it feeds them?

01:39:46.000 And then we were like, we can't do the actual food because they need to eat food all day.

01:39:49.000 But we can do treats like mealworms.

01:39:51.000 And so then Chris, my brother, built the system out.

01:39:54.000 And then we were like, why don't we actually do that on a show?

01:39:58.000 And so with Pop Culture Crisis, every time you give money, it shoots money in there.

01:40:01.000 It shoots money guns.

01:40:02.000 Oh, wow.

01:40:04.000 There should be a separate livestream where they can watch the money getting cleaned up at the end.

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:10.000 Because you have to clean it up.

01:40:12.000 Don't you have to reload it periodically, too?

01:40:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:14.000 Half my job is pushing button, pushing button, check stream, check stream.

01:40:19.000 I'm doing this.

01:40:20.000 I'm filling money.

01:40:21.000 I'm doing all this stuff all at one time and trying to actually keep my focus on the conversation.

01:40:24.000 I mean, this is really cool.

01:40:25.000 There are automatic...

01:40:26.000 I don't even know how Chris built this, but there's automatic money guns at the Pop Culture Crisis set, and when you super chat a comment, it shoots fake $20 bills, right?

01:40:35.000 Yes.

01:40:36.000 No, they're not real.

01:40:37.000 Oh, okay.

01:40:37.000 I don't know.

01:40:37.000 Maybe.

01:40:38.000 That would be like five grand in 20s.

01:40:40.000 There have been times where people...

01:40:42.000 Are they hundreds?

01:40:43.000 They're both.

01:40:43.000 There's 20s and 100s.

01:40:44.000 So when we have guests from outside the company, we have them sign $100 bills.

01:40:48.000 Oh, cool.

01:40:48.000 But there have been times where people would come up, because back in the old studio, we were up in the top of the house, and there would be HVAC people that would come up there, and they'd see just stacks of money.

01:40:58.000 And I'd be like, it's not real.

01:41:00.000 We're not nuts.

01:41:01.000 We're either nuts or we're the most like...

01:41:04.000 Well, so someone had a stack of prop money where the first five bills on both sides are fake bills and the middle's all just notepad paper. 0.65

01:41:13.000 You buy them in stacks and it looks like real money.

01:41:15.000 It says a million dollars.

01:41:17.000 Apparently, one of the cleaners found one and then wrote a note and put it on the counter being like, we found this.

01:41:22.000 We wanted to make sure you guys knew where it was and we were like...

01:41:26.000 It says like for Hollywood productions or something on it.

01:41:29.000 But hey, we really respected those cleaners.

01:41:30.000 Yeah, it was very nice.

01:41:31.000 It would be funny if they stole it.

01:41:33.000 I was always wondering, did anybody ever just take any and try to use it?

01:41:37.000 Oh, I bet they did.

01:41:39.000 Yeah, and we have the Alex Jones's right jar.

01:41:41.000 Yep.

01:41:41.000 And we originally put fake money in it because it's a joke, but then people started putting real money in it.

01:41:47.000 And there's also a picture of blackface Trudeau in there as well.

01:41:50.000 There is, there is.

01:41:51.000 I don't know why.

01:41:51.000 Oh, wow.

01:41:52.000 Let's go.

01:41:54.000 What do we got here?

01:41:55.000 We'll grab some super chats.

01:41:58.000 I'm not your buddy guy, says the left and the west have gone evil.

01:42:01.000 It's unfortunate but true.

01:42:02.000 Does that mean every leftist is evil?

01:42:04.000 No.

01:42:04.000 As well, does it mean everyone on the right is good?

01:42:06.000 No.

01:42:06.000 However, this is a spiritual war.

01:42:09.000 Yeah.

01:42:11.000 I think that the left is pretty evil, generally.

01:42:14.000 They kind of have inverted.

01:42:17.000 The things that they look at as good are what generally are considered evil.

01:42:23.000 They don't believe that children can be innocent.

01:42:28.000 They don't believe that people that have committed crimes need to be punished.

01:42:34.000 Or they don't believe that punishing crimes prevents more crimes.

01:42:38.000 I mean, you can go down the whole gamut.

01:42:39.000 Like...

01:42:40.000 During the election, during the run of the election, Kamala Harris was advertising, hey, we'll save your pornography. 1.00

01:42:49.000 Hey, you should lie to your spouse. 1.00

01:42:52.000 Hey, we'll go ahead and make sure that you can kill your baby. 1.00

01:42:55.000 Those were three major things that the Kamala Harris campaign was running on. 0.99

01:42:59.000 I mean, if evil exists, I think that those three things count as evil.

01:43:05.000 Yeah.

01:43:05.000 The thing is, and this is growing up in a...

01:43:09.000 My parents were civil rights activists back in the 60s and 70s.

01:43:18.000 But in growing up, most of the people that I knew, I mean, I was a Democrat.

01:43:24.000 And I didn't consider myself evil.

01:43:26.000 I was just a Democrat.

01:43:28.000 And for the church people that I went to church with, they were Democrats.

01:43:32.000 The people that used to watch us as kids, babysitters, they were Democrats.

01:43:39.000 We didn't see them as evil.

01:43:42.000 I don't consider Democrats leftists.

01:43:44.000 Okay, okay, okay.

01:43:45.000 I got you.

01:43:46.000 So Democrats are not leftists.

01:43:49.000 You split.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 Leftists are different than Democrats.

01:43:52.000 Progressives and leftists are not the same thing as Democrats.

01:43:55.000 You can be a liberal and be a Democrat.

01:43:58.000 You can believe in the fundamental principles that make America America and be a Democrat.

01:44:02.000 You can believe that the government should be doing things to help people that are in bad positions.

01:44:09.000 Bad situations and stuff and not be a leftist.

01:44:13.000 The leftists take advantage of the Democrats and the people that are concerned with the problems of oppressed people and people that are suffering, working class people.

01:44:28.000 They take advantage of that to access power.

01:44:30.000 Do you have that same split on the right?

01:44:33.000 I don't think that the right is the same as the left, no.

01:44:37.000 I think that for a long time the United States was considered a center-right country.

01:44:41.000 And everyone outside of the United States would say everyone in the United States is on the right.

01:44:47.000 Or almost everyone in the United States is on the right.

01:44:49.000 And that's because things like property, if you think it's okay to own property, that is a right-leaning ideal.

01:44:55.000 And if you think that owning property is a bad thing, that is a leftist idea.

01:45:02.000 And so most Americans think it's okay to own your home, and it's okay to own property.

01:45:07.000 And if you have a business, and this is different than having multinational corporations and stuff, but if you own a business, you are entitled to dispose of the profits from your business however you see fit.

01:45:19.000 These are generally normal things that people on the right and people that are considered Republicans and Democrats have prosecuted.

01:45:27.000 Basically for the entire time that the United States has been a country, up until only very recently, the vast, vast majority, 95% of America believe that.

01:45:36.000 Now there is a stronger, there's a larger portion of leftists who think that owning property is immoral, right?

01:45:44.000 Think that it's okay to kill CEOs of big companies because they are hurting people just by being CEOs of big companies.

01:45:53.000 Think that it's okay to expropriate the property of people that have a lot of property because they think it's immoral to have a lot of property.

01:46:01.000 So the leftists, in my estimation, are different than people that would be considered Democrats or on the right.

01:46:09.000 For me, because I've been on both sides.

01:46:13.000 I know both sides.

01:46:15.000 I mean, I see evil on both sides for me.

01:46:21.000 And where it comes to, even where, like when I left the Democrat Party in 2007, I used to wonder why Republicans wouldn't talk to Republicans.

01:46:39.000 Communities, urban communities.

01:46:41.000 Why?

01:46:42.000 Because they won't listen to us. 1.00

01:46:44.000 Well, that's bullshit. 0.99

01:46:45.000 I mean, when I came over, I remember the people in Chicago was like, y'all need to come talk to us. 0.99

01:46:53.000 We're ready for a change.

01:46:54.000 Y'all need to come talk to us.

01:46:57.000 GOP didn't want to, you know, the GOP didn't want to make that move.

01:47:01.000 But then there are other things that I have seen along the years.

01:47:06.000 I'm like, wow, this thing is, and it's not the voters.

01:47:12.000 It's the stuff that's happening in D.C. When I went and served in the military, I'm like, I ain't going for the people in D.C. I'm doing it for the American people.

01:47:26.000 For me, I wake up in the morning, I go to bed, and I don't like nobody in D.C. I don't like nobody.

01:47:31.000 Fair enough. 1.00

01:47:33.000 They all kiss my ass. 1.00

01:47:34.000 I don't like none of them. 1.00

01:47:37.000 Have you noticed that they all wear North Face too?

01:47:40.000 Mm-hmm.

01:47:40.000 You notice that?

01:47:42.000 I don't like DC at all.

01:47:44.000 It's like you want to at least reach out and talk to people.

01:47:51.000 I was at the RNC one time and I was talking to Rince Priebus when he was in charge and I was like, listen...

01:48:01.000 Have you ever thought about having a family day?

01:48:05.000 Like at the convention?

01:48:06.000 No, just in communities.

01:48:08.000 Okay.

01:48:09.000 Have you ever thought about having a family day?

01:48:11.000 Don't go in there just talking politics.

01:48:14.000 Family.

01:48:15.000 This is what we're doing.

01:48:16.000 You know?

01:48:16.000 You know about our Saturday morning cartoons idea?

01:48:19.000 Mm-hmm.

01:48:19.000 We want to do these coffee shops, the Casper coffee shops.

01:48:22.000 Saturday mornings at like 6 or 7 a.m., we do a catered breakfast.

01:48:26.000 Families come, and then the kids hang out.

01:48:28.000 There's cartoons playing.

01:48:29.000 Exactly.

01:48:30.000 And it's like cartoons that we choose and are vetted to be not crazy.

01:48:33.000 Yep.

01:48:34.000 So I made it easy.

01:48:34.000 I was like, Benke, we're going to be like...

01:48:38.000 And then the idea is, in the morning, neighbors get to know each other.

01:48:41.000 Yep.

01:48:41.000 You get to build community with families, and the kids get to make friends, and it builds that communal structure.

01:48:46.000 That's it.

01:48:47.000 I hope we'll get there one day.

01:48:48.000 You know, it's just a lot of work.

01:48:49.000 It's heavy lifting.

01:48:50.000 Yep.

01:48:50.000 But I'm confident.

01:48:51.000 We got big updates coming.

01:48:53.000 We got big news.

01:48:54.000 Sounds good.

01:48:55.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:48:56.000 We got Live Free or Die, says Anarcho-Tyranny, a.k.a.

01:49:00.000 Partial Law.

01:49:01.000 Hey, Phil, did you see that Jason won Guitarist of the Year in Nick Nocturnal's Metal Awards show today?

01:49:06.000 I'm not surprised.

01:49:06.000 Jason's great.

01:49:09.000 There you go.

01:49:10.000 Law of Self-Defense says, can't believe Tim didn't call Law of Self-Defense for my take on this.

01:49:15.000 Love you, Tim.

01:49:16.000 We should have!

01:49:18.000 But we don't do calls.

01:49:19.000 We should just have you come down. 0.98

01:49:20.000 Maybe we should figure something out.

01:49:22.000 Let me look who's on the roster for next week.

01:49:26.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:49:27.000 Maybe we should figure something out so we can have you come in opine on what's currently going on.

01:49:31.000 This would be interesting.

01:49:33.000 We'll talk to Bookin about it.

01:49:37.000 Let's go!

01:49:38.000 Jacob Hawley says, Reddit has gone absolutely nuts.

01:49:40.000 Star Trek subreddits are even celebrating the CEO's ending.

01:49:43.000 I called it out and reported it to the site admin.

01:49:46.000 I was immediately banned.

01:49:47.000 And the response I got was one word, good.

01:49:49.000 Absolutely sick.

01:49:50.000 Dude, this is crazy stuff.

01:49:52.000 And what I'm saying is... 0.99

01:49:54.000 I'm hoping that this shift that we've seen with Trump and everything is strong enough to suppress these effing psychopaths. 0.99

01:50:02.000 Because my fear is it is pervasive how insane they were.

01:50:05.000 And I'm hoping that we just, you know, put a stop in it and we now have to start reversing it.

01:50:10.000 My view is I'm optimistic we're heading in the right direction, but we are far from done.

01:50:14.000 Yeah.

01:50:15.000 We need a culture that says we're not going to tolerate this.

01:50:18.000 They keep saying, we better be worried about cancel culture on the right.

01:50:22.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

01:50:23.000 Cancel culture on the left was your dad swore in the 80s, so we're firing you from your job.

01:50:27.000 That literally happened.

01:50:28.000 A racer lost a sponsor because his dad said a racial slur in the 80s.

01:50:31.000 That's insane.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, cancel culture is...

01:50:34.000 We know the joke you said in 2010 was acceptable then, but you're fired now.

01:50:38.000 Cancel culture is not far leftists advocating for and calling for death and engaging in terrorism and us being like, you shouldn't have a job at this company.

01:50:46.000 So I'm okay if these people are advocating for death and murder and terrorism for us to be like, you are going to be canceled for that.

01:50:54.000 I think that's fine.

01:50:56.000 I always look at it as Pandora's box, too.

01:50:59.000 I mean, the lid has to be closed.

01:51:02.000 For all the stuff that you were just talking about, we got to close that lid.

01:51:07.000 We got to close the door.

01:51:07.000 And then we got to deal with what we have.

01:51:11.000 You know, we hear so many times, we need to go back.

01:51:15.000 Never going to go back.

01:51:16.000 Never going to go back.

01:51:17.000 Because the apple has been bitten.

01:51:21.000 We have seen where we are right now.

01:51:24.000 We have to adapt.

01:51:26.000 Military-wise, we have to adapt now.

01:51:28.000 We have to straighten out this.

01:51:31.000 But it's never going to go back because of all the stuff that has come out.

01:51:36.000 That's what I think.

01:51:38.000 All right.

01:51:39.000 Grofty says, Phil needs some buck buck buck in his life.

01:51:41.000 Brought to you by Grofty.

01:51:43.000 I don't know.

01:51:44.000 I mean, still, how many chickens do you have?

01:51:45.000 Well, I don't have any more chickens.

01:51:47.000 I had chickens until one of my tenants burnt the chicken coop down. 0.84

01:51:50.000 Whoa.

01:51:51.000 Dang.

01:51:52.000 Wow.

01:51:52.000 And so your chickens were left homeless?

01:51:54.000 No, they probably burnt alive.

01:51:56.000 And did you eat them?

01:51:58.000 No.

01:51:58.000 You know what?

01:51:59.000 There was a Netflix show about a group of chicken owners.

01:52:05.000 Mm-hmm.

01:52:06.000 That they were making a whole lot of money with their chicken farms or whatnot.

01:52:11.000 But then there was somebody in that community, while they were asleep or whatnot, they were going around and turning up the temperature in the...

01:52:19.000 To kill the chickens?

01:52:20.000 To kill the chickens, yeah. 0.99

01:52:22.000 That's a capital.

01:52:23.000 No, this was because the guy didn't clean the place properly, and there was a short in the cable to keep the water heater.

01:52:34.000 It was like February or something like that.

01:52:36.000 Chickens are chill, man.

01:52:38.000 They walk around, they poop where they stand, and they make funny noises.

01:52:41.000 And there's this great meme, it's a 4chan post, where a guy says he was basically bored and depressed, and then one day his neighbors bought chickens.

01:52:48.000 They're not supposed to own chickens. 0.98

01:52:50.000 But he didn't mind so much.

01:52:52.000 And then he said, comes home from work and he sees him walking around making funny sounds and he chuckles.

01:52:56.000 Now he wakes up in the morning and he watches and he smiles and all of a sudden he's feeling better.

01:53:00.000 And I'm like, I'm telling you, I firmly believe that if someone is looking at chickens but still claims to be depressed, they are lying for attention.

01:53:09.000 Because I don't know how you look at those things and you don't laugh at them. 1.00

01:53:11.000 They're so dumb and silly. 1.00

01:53:13.000 They are dumb. 1.00

01:53:14.000 I know, but there's a reason why humans like chickens. 1.00

01:53:16.000 They're good though!

01:53:16.000 I know!

01:53:17.000 Not only are their bodies the most delicious meat, but they produce eggs from their butts. 0.92

01:53:22.000 And then you cook them like, chickens are great! 1.00

01:53:26.000 They're dumb. 1.00

01:53:27.000 They're very dumb. 1.00

01:53:31.000 But you know, we selected for them. 1.00

01:53:34.000 Trivia for you guys.

01:53:35.000 Chickens were not domesticated for eggs.

01:53:38.000 What?

01:53:38.000 Yeah, humans did not domesticate chickens for their eggs.

01:53:41.000 They were domesticated for cockfighting.

01:53:44.000 Really?

01:53:45.000 Yeah, the Asian guinea fowl, I think it was called.

01:53:47.000 And so they saw the roosters basically would fight when you put them together, and they were like, hey, this is funny.

01:53:55.000 But then what happens is when people started trading them around laughing at the roosters fighting each other and having cockfights, when Europe realized...

01:54:03.000 Hey, these birds lay an egg every single day.

01:54:06.000 Because it used to be like, hey, I found some eggs.

01:54:08.000 Good fortune.

01:54:09.000 We can eat them.

01:54:09.000 With chickens, you get a bunch of them.

01:54:11.000 You have eggs every day.

01:54:12.000 They were like, this is incredible.

01:54:13.000 And then chickens became a very important animal because they give you food every day.

01:54:18.000 Yeah.

01:54:19.000 And chickens are based.

01:54:22.000 Let's go!

01:54:25.000 All right.

01:54:25.000 Sudermouse says, any chance you guys are getting a blockchain crypto expert on soon?

01:54:29.000 Trump picked a pro-crypto person to head the SEC so the industry may take off soon.

01:54:33.000 Charles Hoskinson is who I'd recommend.

01:54:35.000 Love the show, everyone.

01:54:36.000 We have Max and Stacey on periodically, and they were supposed to come on a couple months ago, but something ended up happening.

01:54:41.000 And they're very busy down in El Salvador, but we're good friends and we're big fans.

01:54:45.000 So it would be great to have them on sometime.

01:54:47.000 I'm going to say this.

01:54:49.000 Apparently, the rumor is right now that Donald Trump just bought, like, what, like $5 million worth of Ethereum?

01:54:54.000 And already owns apparently millions of dollars of Ethereum more.

01:54:58.000 Now, I don't know if that's true, and I ain't going to give anybody advice on finance or anything like that, but I would just estimate, I would assume, if Donald Trump is buying Ethereum, and he's going to be president, and he appointed a crypto czar, I feel like they're going to want Ethereum to increase in value in some capacity, or Trump expects it to, and that's why he's buying it.

01:55:19.000 I mean...

01:55:20.000 Somebody told him something?

01:55:22.000 Yep.

01:55:23.000 His crypto guy said, Trump, when you get in, we're going to...

01:55:26.000 To the moon.

01:55:27.000 Just the fact that he's a pro-crypto, you know, is going to have a pro-crypto administration is going to do great things for the whole fintech.

01:55:34.000 And he wasn't on board at first, wasn't he?

01:55:37.000 I don't think so.

01:55:38.000 I don't think he was ever anti.

01:55:40.000 But, oh, actually, yeah, I think early in the days he was saying the dollar's better, we don't want it, but now he's turned around and, you know, he's good.

01:55:49.000 If he launches a Bitcoin reserve for the United States, which is very smart and should be done, Bitcoin goes up to, what, half a million?

01:55:57.000 Some ridiculous number?

01:55:58.000 Because the United States Bitcoin Reserve is not going to be a couple hundred million dollars.

01:56:02.000 It's going to be probably billions.

01:56:04.000 I don't know.

01:56:05.000 What's the gold reserve for the United States?

01:56:06.000 Probably zero, right?

01:56:08.000 Nothing anymore.

01:56:10.000 They're guarding nothing.

01:56:12.000 8,134 metric tons.

01:56:16.000 Wow.

01:56:18.000 Yo, that is nuts, really?

01:56:21.000 Let's convert that.

01:56:23.000 8,000 tons is a ton at $2,700 today, I believe.

01:56:31.000 Let's see.

01:56:33.000 So it's $523 billion in gold reserves.

01:56:38.000 Wow.

01:56:39.000 That's...

01:56:40.000 Right, so could you imagine if he said, we're going to put $250 billion, half of our gold reserves, into Bitcoin?

01:56:48.000 That's a massive movement.

01:56:49.000 The current price cap, market cap of Bitcoin is like $2 trillion.

01:56:53.000 I mean, you know, it's not like the government can't just print up the money to buy it, too.

01:56:58.000 They'll do something like that.

01:56:59.000 But if he wants to launch a reserve and he goes in that direction, he could end up pumping Bitcoin by 20% instantly.

01:57:06.000 So not $500,000, but it could jump to $120,000 as soon as he does it.

01:57:10.000 That's wild.

01:57:11.000 Did you hear that Putin was behind Bitcoin?

01:57:15.000 He probably is.

01:57:16.000 Yeah.

01:57:17.000 It's amazing.

01:57:19.000 It's really funny, too, because remember that story where Max Kaiser offered Alex Jones 10,000 Bitcoin, and Alex was like, I don't know what you're talking about, Max.

01:57:27.000 It's a true story.

01:57:29.000 Wow.

01:57:30.000 I mean, he was trying to give him 10,000 Bitcoin.

01:57:32.000 Just give it to him?

01:57:33.000 But back then it wasn't worth that much, so Alex was like, Max, I don't know what you're talking about.

01:57:37.000 Sure, I appreciate it, whatever, and then just never followed him up on it.

01:57:41.000 Well, they'd have taken it from them anyways.

01:57:43.000 No, but in all seriousness, you always got to mention, anybody who had a thousand Bitcoin ten years ago would have sold it seven years ago.

01:57:51.000 Probably.

01:57:52.000 The moment it jumped to $10,000, they'd be like, I'm selling this.

01:57:55.000 Yeah.

01:57:56.000 When it took that huge dip down to 30 from 60...

01:58:00.000 Yeah.

01:58:00.000 Now it's at $100?

01:58:01.000 Yeah, it's over $100.

01:58:02.000 I mean, it went to $20 and then it got down to $3,000.

01:58:06.000 Yep.

01:58:07.000 It's the wave.

01:58:09.000 So now I would imagine, I don't know where it's going to top out.

01:58:13.000 It's going to stabilize.

01:58:15.000 You don't know what's going to happen on this wave.

01:58:20.000 I think we're going to start seeing stable growth, and it's going to turn into something akin to the stocks where you see a 5% growth each year or something like this.

01:58:30.000 Considering the halvings that happen, the halvings where it becomes harder and harder to produce Bitcoin, that's going to usually cause a spike.

01:58:36.000 I don't know.

01:58:39.000 I'm not an economist.

01:58:40.000 I don't know.

01:58:41.000 But I do kind of feel like that we're moving past the point of collapsibility in Bitcoin.

01:58:47.000 I think...

01:58:50.000 Now that's over 100,000...

01:58:52.000 With Trump talking about it, the U.S. government getting involved, all these other governments getting involved, we're getting to the point where people are not going to want to offload it so dramatically, and it's going to be treated much more as a ubiquitous asset and a hard commodity of some sort, in which case the growth will be stable.

01:59:09.000 I guess the bad news for most people is you may have missed the train.

01:59:13.000 I don't see a reality where you get these massive gains.

01:59:16.000 It's kind of crazy.

01:59:18.000 Look, I bought Bitcoin 10 years ago or whatever.

01:59:20.000 It was around $1,000 or so.

01:59:21.000 I bought a bunch of it.

01:59:23.000 I don't know if we're going to see gains like that possible.

01:59:27.000 I don't know.

01:59:27.000 It's tough.

01:59:28.000 Well, it's not going to be like yours.

01:59:30.000 No, but maybe I could be wrong.

01:59:31.000 I think in 10 years, it could be a million dollars.

01:59:34.000 Yeah, if it goes to a million, it's not the same as yours.

01:59:36.000 Right, and so you don't need to spend $100,000 right now on a Bitcoin, but that's still only a 10x return.

01:59:40.000 Yeah.

01:59:41.000 So for me, I'm looking at like a 73x return 10 years ago.

01:59:45.000 As it gets bigger and bigger, people can still buy smaller fractions of Bitcoin.

01:59:50.000 I just think we're getting to a stability period where it's going to be ubiquitous and it's going to find its equilibrium.

01:59:55.000 What if you're just putting a little bit in each paycheck to it, you know, dollar cost averaging?

02:00:00.000 I'm gonna say this, dude.

02:00:01.000 If I could go back in time, I wouldn't bring the lottery numbers with me.

02:00:05.000 I would just have my direct deposit be split between Bitcoin and dollars.

02:00:10.000 It's funny because a couple of years ago we were talking about, should we give people a portion of their paychecks in Bitcoin?

02:00:17.000 That sounds like a good idea.

02:00:19.000 Yeah, let's look into it.

02:00:19.000 And then we never did.

02:00:20.000 And I know everybody who works here would have wished we did.

02:00:24.000 Because they'd be looking at a 3x return on whatever they got paid.

02:00:28.000 Odell Beckham did his in Bitcoin a couple of years ago.

02:00:32.000 And now everybody's talking about, now he looks smart.

02:00:37.000 Or where it is right now for...

02:00:40.000 For, um, versus what?

02:00:42.000 How many years ago?

02:00:43.000 It's like, uh, three, three, like three or four years ago.

02:00:46.000 When did that have been like right after, like it hit 15, like when Russia invaded Ukraine and it dipped really far?

02:00:53.000 Mm-hmm.

02:00:54.000 I remember when it was at 70 cents.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 07, 2024

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