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00:00:00.000 the Democratic Party.

00:00:22.000 He's refusing to turn over audio of a conversation with Biden about his health and his prosecution. 0.99

00:00:29.000 You see, the prosecutor is saying, you know, Biden's just a bumbling old fool and he can't remember things and they're never going to get him convicted. 0.98

00:00:35.000 So for that reason, we just can't criminally charge him. 0.98

00:00:38.000 But at the same time, Steve Bannon's going to go to prison for contempt of Congress.

00:00:41.000 Eric Holder was never held responsible for being in contempt of Congress.

00:00:45.000 So we're definitely seeing a double standard.

00:00:46.000 We'll talk about that.

00:00:47.000 And then we've got some news.

00:00:49.000 That Ukrainian impeding aid list, some people call it an enemy's list, in which I am included, as well as Jack Posobiec and many Republican members of Congress, is under fire and may be getting defunded thanks to the efforts of members of Congress like Rep Jim Banks.

00:01:04.000 He sent me a letter saying, I just want to let you know, you're on this enemy's list and I am...

00:01:10.000 You know, I did a segment where I probably was angrier than I've ever been at this idea that they dare insult me because I'm supposed to be of the opinion they deserve my money.

00:01:21.000 That's what they're writing.

00:01:23.000 They write this article, they write this whole map of all these individuals and they say, these people are in the way of us stealing their money.

00:01:30.000 How dare they?

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00:03:37.000 What's up, Matt?

00:03:38.000 Good to be back, man.

00:03:40.000 I tell you, every rally I go to, everywhere in the country, there's at least one person who walks up and says, you should be on the Timcast more.

00:03:48.000 So I think our long-form, unscripted conversations are epic.

00:03:52.000 There's a lot going on.

00:03:53.000 There's a lot under the surface, you know, ballpark It's a really bad time for the country right now.

00:03:59.000 We are in a free fall.

00:04:03.000 We are close to the cliff, and there's a few of us fighting to try to turn away from that ultimate ending.

00:04:09.000 And I know there's a lot in this audience who are rooting for us, and so looking forward to chatting.

00:04:13.000 You know, I've said it before, you are at least my favorite member of Congress. 1.00

00:04:17.000 You say the same shit to Thomas Massey. 0.99

00:04:19.000 When he comes on the show, I know because my wife was watching, and she's like, babe, I know this is going to be a real hard night for you. 0.99

00:04:19.000 That's not true. 0.99

00:04:27.000 But you're no longer Tim Foole's favorite member of Congress.

00:04:29.000 Massey is.

00:04:30.000 And I'm like, well, you know, I think Massey is my mom's favorite member of Congress.

00:04:34.000 I don't know that I would have said that.

00:04:35.000 Maybe I would have said he's one of our favorites, but I have a lot of disagreements with Massey.

00:04:39.000 He's a good dude and we agree on a lot and I respect him fighting back, but there's a lot of things that I've argued and I've read stories about him.

00:04:46.000 But the stuff you've worked on, I mean, especially, you know, people have complained about the McCarthy stuff after the fact because now we have Speaker Johnson.

00:04:51.000 I don't care about that.

00:04:53.000 I want to see someone who actually represents the will of the people.

00:04:56.000 Afterwards, we cross those bridges.

00:04:57.000 So, we'll get into all that.

00:04:58.000 We'll get into all that.

00:04:59.000 We've got a big show tonight because Ian is here as well.

00:05:01.000 Hi, everybody.

00:05:02.000 Yeah, man, I'm glad you're here, Matt.

00:05:03.000 I'm glad to be here because I feel like you are kind of the needle into the veins of what the hell's happening in the United States and we can either extract data from you or we can give you data to put into the system.

00:05:13.000 I'm really happy to get a hold of your expertise, man.

00:05:16.000 I'm driving out here and I'm like, what is going to be the crazy Ian question that is not an actual question?

00:05:21.000 That is just testing to see what an accommodating dope I'm willing to be.

00:05:25.000 So I'm on the hunt.

00:05:26.000 The water was warm.

00:05:27.000 I'm on the hunt.

00:05:28.000 We're going to talk about the Empire.

00:05:29.000 I'm talking about the British Empire and the Emperor himself.

00:05:31.000 Empire is striking back, actually.

00:05:33.000 Phil is here.

00:05:33.000 How you doing, everybody?

00:05:34.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:05:35.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:05:37.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:05:39.000 How you doing, Hannah-Claire?

00:05:40.000 I've said it before.

00:05:40.000 I'm good.

00:05:41.000 I'll say it again.

00:05:42.000 I'm tonight's diversity hire.

00:05:43.000 I'm representing all the estrogen in the room.

00:05:45.000 I'm Hannah Clare Brimel.

00:05:46.000 I'm a writer for SCNR.com.

00:05:47.000 Hi, Serge!

00:05:49.000 Hello, Hannah Clare.

00:05:49.000 Let's get into it.

00:05:50.000 That's not fair.

00:05:50.000 This is a minority-owned company.

00:05:53.000 And I'm helping.

00:05:53.000 Sure.

00:05:54.000 I'm gender diversity in this room unless you guys are going to make any announcements tonight.

00:05:58.000 So we had this big hearing today on how The FTC is trying to get more authority on – well, not the FTC.

00:06:07.000 I'm sorry.

00:06:07.000 Investment vehicles are trying to leverage their power to try to get ESG, DEI, and how they will literally say, like, we're the investment board for one of the largest investment companies in the world, and we're going to vote against directors based on the color of their skin, based on their gender.

00:06:25.000 It's incredible what's going on.

00:06:26.000 That's illegal.

00:06:27.000 But it is – they are bragging about it.

00:06:29.000 They are abjectly bragging about it.

00:06:31.000 Well, let's start here.

00:06:32.000 The big news today was House Republicans holding AG Merrick Garland in contempt for withholding Biden-Herr interview audio.

00:06:40.000 The simple gist of this is there's a Biden health crisis.

00:06:44.000 He is so unhealthy.

00:06:47.000 That we can't criminally charge him for his criminal actions.

00:06:50.000 But, uh, I guess you were there, Matt.

00:06:52.000 Do you want to break down for us what's going on with this?

00:06:54.000 Well, I mean, rah-rah, I guess?

00:06:58.000 Tim?

00:06:59.000 I mean, like, just zooming out, okay?

00:07:02.000 We have a situation where Donald Trump is the leading contender for the presidency.

00:07:07.000 He's facing unprecedented lawfare.

00:07:10.000 We have the people who are involved in the state and local prosecutions going to meetings at the White House, communicating with officials at the DOJ, absorbing into their workforce senior officials from the DOJ.

00:07:23.000 This is the big problem with Merrick Garland and with the Department of Justice.

00:07:29.000 When we ask for those records, those calendar meetings, those emails that will really reveal to the public a new thing that people need to know, we send letters, we don't issue subpoenas that we're willing to enforce, and we just let that go.

00:07:46.000 And then meanwhile, we get you leading the A Block on the Timcast with, we have held Merrick Garland contempt because he is holding from us something so rare.

00:07:58.000 As is Joe Biden potentially being mentally and physically feeble.

00:08:02.000 I'm like, we just watched this guy probably crap his pants at D-Day, okay? 0.73

00:08:06.000 Like, nothing on the Merritt Garland video is going to be worse than we've already seen, but we choose that!

00:08:14.000 for the unprecedented power of contempt and then we just we just sort of leave unaddressed the

00:08:20.000 actual real issue. So yeah, I voted for the contempt. We have a right to the information.

00:08:24.000 He's the president of the United States. There's an impeachment inquiry. He should have given it

00:08:27.000 to us. But at the end of the day, I will not take any congratulations for House Republicans

00:08:33.000 for this move because it is it is like the lowest of low energy action.

00:08:37.000 And actually, I think it's rather misdirected.

00:08:38.000 Do you want to live in a world where there's no limiting factor on the ability of any Congress in the future to go root around an investigative file that didn't result in a criminal prosecution?

00:08:50.000 Do you want to live in that world?

00:08:52.000 Nobody wants to, but do you think- Does Steve Bannon want to live in that world?

00:08:55.000 I don't know that that's the best thing for separation of powers either. 0.80

00:09:00.000 Why am I leading with this on the A Block?

00:09:02.000 You're leading with it because you are so thirsty for anything that we have done that is of any meaning or that anybody is being held accountable for anything, right?

00:09:13.000 It's like when the families go to SeaWorld, and what the sea lion does is not all that impressive, jumps up, does a flip.

00:09:20.000 But like, after you've been there with your kids all day, and you've been sitting in that line, and you've paid the 80 bucks, whatever that sea lion does is going to be good, and you're going to applaud, and you're going to pay for the $12 hot dog.

00:09:31.000 I'll give you 95% spot on.

00:09:34.000 The 5% I'd say is, we lead with what you guys do.

00:09:38.000 And so the story of the day is that you've held Merrick Garland in contempt, and then the gist of it is we complain about how the only thing that ever gets done is strongly worded letters.

00:09:47.000 We did the wrong thing.

00:09:48.000 We contempted the wrong conduct.

00:09:50.000 I mean, we scored in the wrong end zone.

00:09:50.000 Right?

00:09:50.000 Yeah.

00:09:53.000 That is my criticism.

00:09:54.000 What's the conduct you want to put him in court for?

00:09:56.000 Look, I believe that the worst thing going on right now at the Department of Justice is what they're doing to Trump.

00:10:03.000 It's not even the protection of Biden.

00:10:05.000 It's what they're doing to Trump.

00:10:06.000 And there is evidence that they are involved in that.

00:10:10.000 There are meetings that we know happened at the White House with Nathan Wade and Fannie Willis.

00:10:14.000 We know there are personnel that literally left senior positions at DOJ to do the career downstream to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, right? 0.95

00:10:25.000 And so we want the employment records, the references, the correspondence, and Merrick Garland tells us to fuck off, and we fully fund—oh, I'm sorry, we gave him a 7% cut on his budget. 0.98

00:10:34.000 Naughty, naughty Merrick Garland. 0.98

00:10:35.000 But then they hold back, like, video of Joe Biden stuttering, and we act like, God damn it, if we don't get this, we're going to use the awesome power of contempt. 0.96

00:10:43.000 Does that not offend you? 0.94

00:10:45.000 I want to mention real quick, because you mentioned the poop into the pants. 1.00

00:10:49.000 So I, because I love ChatGPT, asked it if it was reasonable to assume that Joe Biden crapped his pants, and it was like, no, there is no evidence to suggest this.

00:10:58.000 And then I said, there's more evidence that Joe Biden crapped his pants than there is that Donald Trump worked for Russia.

00:11:03.000 There's more.

00:11:05.000 We actually have a video where he's like squatting down.

00:11:07.000 Ask anybody who's had a toddler what that looks like.

00:11:11.000 Here's what I did.

00:11:13.000 I then asked GPT, if an 81-year-old man standing up during an event squats down, grimaces, stands up, squats a little bit, is it reasonable to assume he may be suffering fecal incontinence?

00:11:24.000 And it goes, yes, that is reasonable to assume.

00:11:26.000 And I said, and if it's Joe Biden, no, how dare you?

00:11:29.000 Honestly, the same thing happened one time when I was at a party with Bill O'Reilly. 0.93

00:11:32.000 I think he shit his pants and then had to shuffle off.

00:11:34.000 Joe Biden did? 0.99

00:11:35.000 No, Bill O'Reilly.

00:11:36.000 Oh, wow.

00:11:37.000 I mean, these things happen.

00:11:38.000 I don't want to derail into that, but I think you're correct when it comes to why we can't prosecute Joe Biden.

00:11:46.000 I'll give a little bit to this. 0.98

00:11:47.000 I mean, this is them saying they're not going to criminally charge Joe Biden because he's a doddering old fool and it wouldn't work. 0.99

00:11:53.000 So, we know this already. 0.99

00:11:55.000 That's already been said.

00:11:56.000 That's the worst thing about it.

00:11:57.000 There's nothing more to reveal, right?

00:11:59.000 They've outright said, we won't prosecute him because his brain's gone.

00:12:03.000 Did you ever think Joe Biden was going to get prosecuted for these documents?

00:12:06.000 Did you swallow the hook that hard?

00:12:07.000 Did you ever believe it?

00:12:09.000 Right, I mean, like, what are we talking about here, Tim?

00:12:12.000 He was never gonna get prosecuted for this.

00:12:13.000 Rob Herr, the guy that they selected to be the special counsel for this matter, was Rosenstein's number, like, right-hand man, henchman.

00:12:20.000 Whenever we tried to get answers out of Rosenstein, out of the Hillary stuff, it was Rob Herr that was playing, blocking and tackle.

00:12:26.000 I mean, he is a deep state capo.

00:12:28.000 The fix was in on this.

00:12:30.000 So I've long resigned.

00:12:33.000 I rag on the Republican Party quite a bit.

00:12:35.000 Not nearly as much as Democrats, because the Democratic Party seems unified in their chaos.

00:12:39.000 But there's, what, like a dozen or so Republican members of Congress who do good things.

00:12:46.000 And so I don't really expect a whole lot from them other than strongly worded letters.

00:12:49.000 That's the running meme.

00:12:50.000 That's all they're going to do.

00:12:51.000 I think that Tucker Carlson taught me the power of humiliation is very real, and particularly public humiliation.

00:12:59.000 And if we can drag these people forward with the power of the subpoena and we can browbeat them, we can alter their conduct.

00:13:05.000 There will be no drag queen story hour in the month of June on military bases this year because of the way I dog walked Lloyd Austin.

00:13:14.000 The policy changed as a consequence of that.

00:13:17.000 We have to do that at great scale in every committee with vertically integrated subpoenas, the way the January 6th committee did.

00:13:25.000 And instead, we play the typical Washington game.

00:13:29.000 And you know why?

00:13:29.000 Those strongly worded letters make people money.

00:13:32.000 Like imagine you're the corporate entity, right?

00:13:34.000 And you get those.

00:13:35.000 There's a whole little cottage industry of like lawyers who used to be congressional staffers who take those letters and they they joust back and forth and like, All their kids are in the same soccer leagues together, and they're part of the same kind of social class of DC, and it's all meant to be professional wrestling.

00:13:51.000 And the way you know that's the case is because we don't use the power of the purse.

00:13:56.000 Why not?

00:13:58.000 Because it's a corrupt... I mean, this is the essence of our discussions that they always devolve to.

00:14:03.000 Who is really making the decisions?

00:14:04.000 The core feature and function of Washington is to ensure that no one ever really looks at the money.

00:14:10.000 And the way to ensure that happens is to make sure that everybody's voting on all of the money all at once at the most inconvenient time.

00:14:16.000 So, the government runs out of money on September 30th.

00:14:19.000 And what they'll do is they'll do a short, they'll say, oh, we're so close to getting those single subject spending bills Gates wants.

00:14:26.000 And so they'll kick that thing to right up against everybody's Christmas and Hanukkah recess.

00:14:32.000 And then they will jam us with one of these omnibus bills, where it's you take it all or lose it all.

00:14:37.000 And they will have bought enough people off with earmarks and a special accommodation for you and a win for you to take home to your district, where we will continue this downward slide that I warned about at our open.

00:14:48.000 What are these vertical integrated subpoenas you mentioned?

00:14:52.000 So yeah, I remember we had a great episode.

00:14:53.000 I still run it on the Gates Network, which people can find on my Rumble stream at Red Matt Gates.

00:14:58.000 The episode we had with Steve Bannon in my congressional office, and I just returned from the January 6th committee's vault with all of their files.

00:15:06.000 And here's what they would do.

00:15:07.000 They would assess a target, and they would say, how does that person communicate?

00:15:11.000 All their email, all their phone, all of their devices.

00:15:15.000 How do they move?

00:15:16.000 Do they have Uber?

00:15:17.000 Is there a way to check tolls around their house, around their places of work?

00:15:22.000 And then how do they spend money?

00:15:24.000 Where do we get their bank records?

00:15:25.000 I mean, I looked in the Bernie Kerrick file and I could see where that guy bought a cup of coffee from McDonald's in New York City.

00:15:31.000 And the only file that was totally empty was Steve Bannon's, which I believe was to ensure that they did not have evidence there in those records that they didn't want out for their own reasons, perhaps.

00:15:42.000 And that was all a surprise to Bannon that we broke on the Timcast.

00:15:46.000 So that is how you do it.

00:15:49.000 You go after how they communicate, how they move, how they spend money.

00:15:52.000 And then once you get a target, any person of significance in this country has all their electronic life on probably at least three or four devices or in places, you know, in clouds or with different servers.

00:16:04.000 So they would subpoena, you know, both sides of an email, they would subpoena the email service provider, they would go to the assistant, they would go to the spouse that might have access to records or family members, and they got a full picture on people.

00:16:18.000 And then it was to acquire the target and then to find some basis to do that person.

00:16:22.000 If you're going to do vertically integrated subpoenas with from Eric Garland, it would be like you just find his bank records, his Uber transactions, I would start with what is the conduct that we know was a connective tissue between the Department of Justice and the state and local entities, right?

00:16:42.000 We know there were calendared meetings that occurred at the White House.

00:16:45.000 So let's get all records in and out of that meeting.

00:16:48.000 Let's get the travel to and from there.

00:16:50.000 Let's get all the correspondence from the people who attended those meetings in the 24 hours before and after.

00:16:55.000 If they're not provided by the subjects themselves, you go to their assistants.

00:16:59.000 If they're not provided by them, you go to their service providers, and eventually you find somebody who's going to give up the information, right?

00:17:04.000 Who was the biggest witness in the January 6th matter?

00:17:08.000 It wasn't any of the principals.

00:17:10.000 It was somebody's assistant, Cassidy Hutchinson, because she had records.

00:17:14.000 She knew who had attended meetings, and then she was able to lash lies onto things that had occurred with the appearance of validity when, you know, later when that was probed, it was proven false.

00:17:26.000 She lied.

00:17:28.000 Claiming, but I guess it was a hearsay thing where she's like, I was told this thing happened, that Donald Trump lunged to try and grab the steering wheel.

00:17:35.000 And it would imply that Trump has the ability to phase through solid matter, because there's a barrier in the veal.

00:17:40.000 He can't just do that.

00:17:42.000 He's just that good, you know?

00:17:43.000 I don't understand.

00:17:44.000 Are these people cognizant of their evil?

00:17:48.000 Do they know that what they're doing is evil?

00:17:51.000 I think that there is an intricate system in Washington that brainwashes people, that is well-resourced, that has human talent around it, and that creates kind of a nurturing ecosystem for people to come into that embrace when they feel as though it's the only place for them to turn.

00:18:11.000 Cassidy, for example, wanted to go down and work after January 6th, was dying to go down to work in Palm Beach County.

00:18:17.000 Asked me if any of my friends had places where she could stay while she got permanent housing, was eager to go work for Trump.

00:18:23.000 And then, you know, when that employment situation didn't work out, I don't know if it was personality conflicts, some folks said that they didn't like her contacts with the media, but then all of a sudden she felt isolated and, you know, along comes a Liz Cheney And, I mean, say what you want about the Cheneys, and I've probably said it all, it's not a universe of amateurs.

00:18:46.000 It's a group of people who've done this for a long time at a very high level.

00:18:49.000 Do you think that the Justice Department is ultimately a savable institution, or is it sort of so deeply corrupted, there's so much interpersonality issues there, that it's not something that you could just turn over by getting a new AG?

00:19:06.000 Personnel is policy there, and you've had a lot of the same people who rotate into the Justice Department, out to big tech, and to big business, and then back to the Justice Department when things change.

00:19:18.000 Like, if you look at the people who've worked at DOJ and then go and end up working at big tech companies, it is the true revolving door even more than the White House.

00:19:28.000 And that's why, actually, big tech never gets held accountable, because they want to create just enough virus Where they can then sell themselves and their buddies as the antidote.

00:19:36.000 Meanwhile, the American people see their interface with the digital world change for the worse.

00:19:40.000 So I think that personnel is key, but also devolving authority outside of Washington is key.

00:19:47.000 We've talked about ways to make the U.S.

00:19:49.000 attorneys who live in the communities, who have to show up at the local grocery store and worship at the local church, more empowered to make their decisions where everything is not run through this praxis up here.

00:20:00.000 And also with the Justice Department, You know, I think that getting them outside of Washington,

00:20:06.000 D.C. would be better.

00:20:07.000 And this is an area where I disagree with President Trump.

00:20:09.000 President Trump believes Washington, D.C. has become a shithole and that the only way for

00:20:13.000 America to achieve her greatness is to have a great capital city.

00:20:16.000 And it has to have our institutions, our buildings.

00:20:19.000 You're real estate minded.

00:20:20.000 Yeah, like people can't, you know, defecate on the street and live in our parks and green spaces.

00:20:27.000 That has to be a place of splendor.

00:20:29.000 And he thinks, like, sending, you know, the FBI to Thule, Greenland, as I would, is improper.

00:20:36.000 With these subpoenas you're talking about, these vertically integrated subpoenas, if they were issued widely, would it then... So I imagine none of them have been issued yet, but you want these to be issued by the House of Representatives?

00:20:46.000 Is that how it works?

00:20:48.000 I would rate our distribution of subpoenas and enforcement thereof at, like, maybe a D plus, C minus.

00:20:57.000 And I say that with no joy.

00:20:59.000 Let me give you an example, Ian.

00:21:02.000 The House of Representatives in the 218th Congress has never subpoenaed Hunter Biden for testimony in public.

00:21:11.000 How do you explain that?

00:21:12.000 If we're shooting for the pin, if we're not laying up, how do you explain that?

00:21:18.000 I kind of think that the establishment, the uniparty, whatever you want to call it, has been in consistent control of Democrats and Republicans for decades.

00:21:27.000 And in 2016, probably a little bit before that, we started to see insurgency within both parties.

00:21:34.000 More lefty populists, you have the right populists. 0.76

00:21:37.000 For obvious reasons, I think, we saw tremendous success among right-wing populists in getting into the Republican Party, much to their dismay.

00:21:44.000 And they're desperately trying to shake loose this MAGA, Trump, or populist faction.

00:21:51.000 We're like long COVID, we don't go away.

00:21:53.000 But you look at AOC, and she's supposed to represent the left populist.

00:21:57.000 Yeah, but she's co-opted. 1.00

00:21:58.000 Instantly.

00:21:59.000 What part co-opted her?

00:22:00.000 Well, the moment she gets elected, the moment she wins a primary, she's backtracking her stance on Palestine and Israel. 0.99

00:22:08.000 And the left immediately came out and they were like, we thought you were on our side, and all of a sudden she's like, well, no.

00:22:13.000 Well, because she has constituents. 1.00

00:22:14.000 Then there was, um... I can't remember the specific moment.

00:22:17.000 Do you remember when Pelosi came to her and told her to vote?

00:22:19.000 I think it was the, uh... It was the speaker vote.

00:22:21.000 Speaker vote, right.

00:22:22.000 Right.

00:22:22.000 She said, like you see on the video, on C-SPAN, AOC is voting, I think she was voting, was it she was voting no or something?

00:22:29.000 No, no, no, no.

00:22:29.000 She voted for Pelosi, and what she got for it was a spot on the Financial Services Committee and the Oversight Committee.

00:22:36.000 Which, for a freshman, is getting paid.

00:22:38.000 She switched her vote.

00:22:40.000 So there's a video where you see Pelosi yelling at her, and then all of a sudden the vote changes, or something like that happened.

00:22:44.000 Well, I think she's sitting there, and they kind of have an interaction, but the deal was cut before that moment.

00:22:51.000 Because she gets on these two primo committees, and she votes for Pelosi.

00:22:56.000 Do you think that that moment was intentional then?

00:22:58.000 Because it makes her look like she's standing up to Pelosi, to her constituents?

00:23:02.000 Look, I went through that.

00:23:03.000 You think I started with 20?

00:23:05.000 When we opposed McCarthy, we had way more who were just like, we know this guy's corrupt, we know he lies, we know the truth ain't in him, we're never before him.

00:23:14.000 And then those people stopped coming to the meetings, and next thing you know, they got a real good committee spot.

00:23:20.000 So it's a part of the...

00:23:22.000 Economy of Washington, right?

00:23:24.000 I mean, I wrote in my book about when I first got here in freshman orientation, I really wanted to be on the Armed Services Committee.

00:23:29.000 I represent a military community.

00:23:31.000 I thought they'd want to know what my foreign policy views were, what the GDP of my district was relative to the military.

00:23:37.000 And they were just like, look, you owe $75,000 to the NRCC in the next 10 days.

00:23:41.000 They want to know how many zeros you could put behind a couple numbers.

00:23:43.000 And I mean, I showed up with 150 because I figured if they're for sale, like, I mean, you definitely don't want to like pay and not get one.

00:23:49.000 That's a business opportunity.

00:23:50.000 And then they said, we think you're a real comer, and put me on judiciary as well.

00:23:54.000 Wow.

00:23:55.000 That's your pay for pay double, I guess.

00:23:56.000 Yeah, and I paid twice.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, I can't remember who told us that story.

00:24:00.000 Someone was a... Massey, maybe.

00:24:03.000 I think it was Massey.

00:24:04.000 Massey and I made a movie about it on HBO.

00:24:05.000 We made a movie called The Swamp.

00:24:07.000 They followed us for a year and they observed how there's like a scoring system and a ranking system and based on your committees and your assignments and whether you're a chairman or have some other goofy title, what you have to fork over to rent those positions.

00:24:21.000 So you either use your influence by supporting people in the Congress, or you use your money and buy your way out?

00:24:27.000 Well, it's actually you just serve as a broker.

00:24:29.000 So imagine you're some poor schmuck from northeast Arkansas, and like, you know, you don't have a lot of money, and you show up there to orientation, and first they sit you down and they're like, so we're going to need a quarter million bucks from you in the next two years, and we need like a third of it in the next quarter. 0.98

00:24:45.000 And you sit there and you're like, holy shit, how am I going to do that? 0.98

00:24:48.000 Now, we know you're going to be on the Armed Services Committee. 0.99

00:24:50.000 Here's the best steak you've ever had.

00:24:51.000 It's the best wine you've ever had.

00:24:53.000 And seated at the table are a bunch of defense lobbyists who are like, Ian, we hear you've got an assessment.

00:24:59.000 We are going to do the first event to make sure that we get you toward that assessment.

00:25:04.000 And you start thinking, so wait a second, there's some people who want money and there's some people who want to give it to them.

00:25:09.000 And if I just act as the pass-through, then I get credit for it?

00:25:14.000 That's the situation.

00:25:15.000 And that's how they kind of get you.

00:25:17.000 I imagine they butter you up like crazy when you're a freshman in Congress.

00:25:21.000 They say, yeah, you got a real good head on your shoulders.

00:25:23.000 You're a smart guy.

00:25:24.000 Wow, we'd love to get behind you. 0.98

00:25:25.000 Yeah, a leadership potential.

00:25:27.000 That's always the code that you're a real cuck is when they say you're a leadership guy.

00:25:32.000 We're talking about, like, the country. 0.89

00:25:33.000 You mentioned the country.

00:25:34.000 I think that I have a similar view to what the country is that you do, which is part of why I get along in political conversations with you like this, that it's like the United States Constitution.

00:25:42.000 That's a big part of it.

00:25:43.000 Preserving decentralized authority.

00:25:45.000 But there's, like, this imperial power, and they're big bankers and stuff, and the king of, or the empire, the emperor of England, the emperor of Britain.

00:25:53.000 I don't know, in Five Eyes, the spy club, they got the CIA is probably deeply entrenched.

00:25:58.000 I don't like the liberal economic order, man.

00:25:59.000 I don't like that America has military bases all over Earth, but what's the next best option?

00:26:03.000 Let me jump to this story so that we can get into that conversation.

00:26:07.000 Nice little warm-up amuse-bouche from Ian.

00:26:10.000 How do we deconstruct the world economic order with a viable solution that is in no way chaotic at the outset?

00:26:17.000 Let's start with this.

00:26:18.000 Some news.

00:26:20.000 This is Fox News.

00:26:21.000 Enemies list of Trumpists and Communists.

00:26:24.000 Raise your hand if you're on the enemies list.

00:26:25.000 I am.

00:26:26.000 Is it just us?

00:26:27.000 Sergio!

00:26:29.000 Can we be there because you're there?

00:26:31.000 Like, we work here.

00:26:32.000 I'm not on there.

00:26:33.000 Okay, so let's slow down.

00:26:35.000 You, no.

00:26:36.000 Hold on, first of all, Phil.

00:26:38.000 First of all, Tim got on the enemies list through guilt by association, so you should be able to as well.

00:26:44.000 I feel like it.

00:26:45.000 So basically what's happened is this NGO in Ukraine published this rollercoaster thing where they list a bunch of individuals, what is it like 300 and some odd individuals, that they say are impeding their access to funding.

00:26:59.000 Basically what they're saying is you American citizen are in the way of me taking your money.

00:27:05.000 That deeply offends me.

00:27:07.000 I get really angry by this.

00:27:09.000 I'm an American.

00:27:10.000 I pay taxes.

00:27:11.000 You are Americans.

00:27:12.000 You pay taxes.

00:27:13.000 And these people wrote up a thing mad that as non-U.S.

00:27:17.000 entities, they want my money to pay their bills.

00:27:20.000 You can ask nicely, but to tell me I'm in your way of my own money?

00:27:23.000 I'm glad I am.

00:27:25.000 So here's what they do.

00:27:25.000 They have this, uh, connections.

00:27:28.000 And then they have this big list, here's Donald Trump, and I'm in there somewhere, where am I?

00:27:32.000 I'm like floating over here, Tim Pool.

00:27:34.000 Now, I will tell you, what is the most offensive thing about this is- Where am I?

00:27:38.000 I don't know where you- I'm in there, bro.

00:27:40.000 Somewhere.

00:27:40.000 I know, it's hard to find because I don't- you gotta be big, like, you see how the big ones have names on them?

00:27:45.000 Like they actually label them?

00:27:46.000 I'd imagine yours would be one of the bigger ones, right?

00:27:48.000 Marge- there you go!

00:27:49.000 Oh, there we go, baby!

00:27:50.000 Now hold on, hold on!

00:27:52.000 They don't connect you to me over here?

00:27:55.000 Like, we've had Tucker Carlson, Vivek Ramaswamy, we've had Marjorie Taylor Greene, we've had you, we've had Jim Jordan, we've had all of you on this show and how dare they?

00:28:07.000 You should consider yourself very lucky that you made the list even though they're not fans of the show.

00:28:11.000 Right?

00:28:12.000 So anyway, I know I am deeply offended by this list, but the breaking news now, according to D.C.

00:28:16.000 Drano, the Ukrainian NGO that started an enemies list, which included U.S.

00:28:20.000 congressmen and private American citizens, using Biden's State Department funding, has just been defunded thanks to the leadership of Congressman Jim Banks.

00:28:27.000 So Ian was just bringing up this, like, international liberal economic order, and this is what I really see here.

00:28:35.000 The war in Ukraine, I watched a video earlier, and it was In an international volunteer group fighting in Ukraine, what we're looking at right now is it's an extra governmental entity using the labor of the American people to fund non-citizens and foreign entities to fight a war for NATO.

00:28:58.000 We are witnessing war that is extra-governmental at this point.

00:29:03.000 We did not approve of this.

00:29:04.000 The American people did not vote for this war.

00:29:06.000 But we are paying for it whether we want to or not.

00:29:09.000 And then you've got a video of a British guy, a Canadian guy, a New Zealand guy, and they are fighting, flying Ukrainian flags and killing Russians.

00:29:16.000 And then they're mad at me for not wanting my money to go towards that.

00:29:20.000 The United States has become a vassal of an international military cabal.

00:29:25.000 And it's been for a long time, but now it's plainly visible in front of us.

00:29:28.000 I'm hoping that what we're seeing with Trump, with you, Representative Gates, is that there's a fracture in the hull of their ship.

00:29:38.000 I would suggest that the kryptonite to that That non-governmental, maybe even post-governmental warfare, right, to that liberal world order, it's strong nation-states.

00:29:50.000 And that's why this very post-governmental regime is turned against people like Trump and Mele and Bukele in El Salvador, who's totally changed that country.

00:30:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:02.000 And they fear the sense of pride, strong borders, and just realism that would deconstruct what they've done, I think, to be so damaging.

00:30:13.000 But, like, to just break down for a moment where I've been on Ukraine, the amendment I filed that might have gotten me on this list was just that we should follow our own laws regarding the end-use monitoring of our own military equipment.

00:30:30.000 These aren't new laws.

00:30:31.000 These are laws we've always had, about just like when we send stuff that can shoot into a war zone, we like to keep track of where it goes.

00:30:38.000 And when I ask under oath, I can't tell you what I hear in the classified briefings, but when I ask in the public hearings under oath, can you testify that we are fully compliant with the law?

00:30:48.000 The people charged with enforcing and overseeing those laws cannot truthfully do so.

00:30:52.000 Well, we know billions have already been stolen.

00:30:55.000 We know that there are mayors who are green-lighting fake companies that had just formed to receive U.S.

00:31:01.000 money, and then these individuals disappear.

00:31:03.000 We know that Russian forces were able to successfully launch attacks because fortifications were never built, because Ukrainians are just stealing the money. 0.99

00:31:10.000 And then they have the nerve to write this and say that we are in their way of continued stealing of our money, of your money.

00:31:17.000 I just think any elected official on this list or anyone seeking office should use this as a point to say, look, look, I don't think we should send it.

00:31:23.000 They're noticing that I did something.

00:31:24.000 I said, no, we should not continue to ship money overseas when America has enough to deal with. 0.98

00:31:29.000 I might tell my detractors, you might think I'm a shitbag, but do you really want to borrow money from China so that your children can go into more debt so that an NGO can call me a shitbag? 0.97

00:31:39.000 Do you think that people know that? 0.98

00:31:40.000 Is that really what you think we ought to spend our money on?

00:31:43.000 But to the point about how Absurd it is.

00:31:47.000 We are paying for their pensions, but we also have paid to retire debt that Ukraine incurred before the Russian invasion.

00:31:56.000 So we are $34.7 trillion in debt.

00:32:00.000 We go another trillion dollars in debt every hundred days, and we are paying to retire Ukraine's debt.

00:32:07.000 We are borrowing money from China at a higher interest rate.

00:32:11.000 To retire lower interest rate debt by Ukraine.

00:32:13.000 And I have to say, while I am a huge Jim Banks fan, and it is a coup for people in my movement that he seems to be on a glide path to the United States Senate, and he's done the right thing, we cannot declare victory on this one legislative maneuver for this reason.

00:32:27.000 All we have passed is the House version of the National Defense Authorization Act.

00:32:32.000 The Senate must pass their version.

00:32:34.000 So if you don't have a companion measure there, this then becomes the subject of negotiation.

00:32:40.000 And the people who are involved in these negotiations probably are grieved by this a little less than you and I are.

00:32:46.000 And so the pressure has to be kept on to not fund this stuff Right now, we have run the first leg in the relay race, but getting the Senate to act, getting this to survive conference, is critical for that to be achieved.

00:33:00.000 And I'm not sure that would happen.

00:33:02.000 You were mentioning, you know, these people who are like, we're gonna fund you, you gotta go and pay the NRCC.

00:33:09.000 Can an individual just pay that?

00:33:11.000 If there's a member of Congress who gets elected, can some guy walk up and be like, I'm gonna pay so you get on these committees?

00:33:17.000 Yes.

00:33:18.000 By the way, how do you think I got on committees?

00:33:21.000 Do you think I went to any special interest group?

00:33:23.000 I went back to my community and said, don't you guys want me on armed services?

00:33:26.000 If so, everybody here at dinner has to write somewhere between a $10,000 and $25,000 check.

00:33:30.000 Wow.

00:33:31.000 And I'm grateful that I live in a community that has enough success and affluence and enough people who think like I think where they pulled out their checkbooks and they doubled up.

00:33:42.000 But not everyone can do that, and if you can't do that, then you're more susceptible to the lobbyists who then own you.

00:33:50.000 Ian over here can write a check for $75,000 to the NRCC on behalf of Riley Moore and get him on a committee.

00:33:58.000 Is Riley Moore in Congress?

00:33:59.000 He just won the primary and he will be in November.

00:34:03.000 Yeah, he could do that.

00:34:04.000 That's crazy.

00:34:07.000 You think you're a generous guy?

00:34:08.000 I am.

00:34:09.000 Is that a campaign donation?

00:34:10.000 No, it is.

00:34:10.000 It's reportable.

00:34:11.000 The NRCC says... But you can't accept any number?

00:34:14.000 There's no campaign... Yeah, I think there's an upward limit somewhere, you know, in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:34:19.000 What?

00:34:20.000 Does it have to go to a PAC first?

00:34:21.000 Well, because the NRCC exists to elect Republican members.

00:34:25.000 But it often is weaponized against the people who have a more populist perspective, because the NRCC runs on special interest money.

00:34:35.000 I am of no value to the NRCC, because I don't raise money for them, I don't give money to them.

00:34:40.000 I'm not particularly interested anymore in their perspective on what committees I should serve on, because I think that the people in our movement would think it would be a human rights violation if I got thrown off my committees.

00:34:52.000 So I don't pay the money.

00:34:54.000 And so they would far prefer to have fewer people who think like I do and more people who are hamsters on the hamster wheel.

00:35:00.000 Because the reason I brought up someone super chatted, does your show get enough money to start buying off politicians so they can do the right damn thing for once in their lifetime?

00:35:08.000 And I'm like... Well, you cannot buy politicians.

00:35:10.000 You can only rent them.

00:35:13.000 So that's my question.

00:35:17.000 We go to a member of Congress and say, we're going to pay the NRCC what they are looking for to make sure you get the committees and do the right thing.

00:35:24.000 Thomas Massey told the story about how someone thought he could do a real good job on the Ways and Means Committee, and the lobbying group said, this is what we're willing to pay for you to be on the committee, and we need you to share our perspective on these issues. 0.99

00:35:37.000 And I think Thomas pretty much told him to fuck off. 0.99

00:35:40.000 Wow. 1.00

00:35:41.000 How do we stop that?

00:35:43.000 And he never got on the committee.

00:35:44.000 Well, we got some people on some committees because we used leverage.

00:35:49.000 Kevin McCarthy did not want to put Thomas Massey and Ralph Norman and Chip Roy on the rules committee.

00:35:56.000 And that's the committee that determines what even can be voted on.

00:35:59.000 What amendments are even going to get the dignity of a vote.

00:36:02.000 How much did it cost to get on that committee?

00:36:04.000 Huh?

00:36:04.000 How much does it cost again?

00:36:05.000 Well, typically, if you're not someone that's giving upwards of around a million bucks a year, you're not really considered for the Rules Committee.

00:36:12.000 We can afford that.

00:36:13.000 But our folks got on the Rules Committee because we said, Kevin, what would you prefer?

00:36:17.000 This to be the slate of people on the Rules Committee, or for you not to be able to hang your portrait?

00:36:22.000 He was like sort of a moth to the flame on the portrait deal, but now we got our folks on the Rules Committee, and that's not to say that they think like I think on every issue.

00:36:31.000 I'm sure they don't, but I know they're not corrupt.

00:36:35.000 They didn't get there because they bought it.

00:36:36.000 They got there because we used leverage, and I think that is not a perfect system, but it's definitely the better one.

00:36:43.000 When they come in and they pay to get someone on a committee, who does that money go to?

00:36:47.000 Well, oftentimes the NRCC takes that money and they will use it at times to play in primaries to select the type of person that's likely to participate in this, you know, in this Amway scheme that they have.

00:37:01.000 For people who don't know what the NRCC is?

00:37:02.000 Yeah, the National Republican Congressional Committee.

00:37:06.000 So it is the political wing of the House Republican Conference.

00:37:10.000 The Democrats have one.

00:37:11.000 They call it the D-TRIP, the D-triple-C.

00:37:15.000 These are basically like political organizations that help people get elected.

00:37:18.000 Yeah, ostensibly their purpose is to achieve the majority.

00:37:24.000 So you have to have money to do that, and they have the ability in law that you don't have.

00:37:28.000 They have an ability to buy television advertising that you don't necessarily have at rates that you aren't able to get.

00:37:36.000 And so they have that primacy in law.

00:37:38.000 It's one of the reasons we have a two-party system, because we've wrapped our campaign finance laws around a two-party system. 0.91

00:37:46.000 How often?

00:37:46.000 They exist for that purpose.

00:37:47.000 They have to raise tens of millions of dollars.

00:37:49.000 If you want to be the leader of your conference, it's somewhere between $60 and $100 million

00:37:53.000 that you need to raise.

00:37:55.000 How often?

00:37:56.000 Well, every year.

00:37:58.000 Every year you need $60 to $100 million?

00:38:01.000 And Kevin McCarthy, to his career, raised about a billion.

00:38:06.000 And what I said to folks is, you know, what did that cost, right?

00:38:11.000 When Kevin McCarthy walked into the speakership having raised nearly a billion dollars, not just with the NRCC, but also CLF, other aligned PACs and entities, all of that together, that's a billion dollars worth of IOUs.

00:38:23.000 And for all of the criticism I take, I turned those IOUs into Confederate money.

00:38:30.000 I love it.

00:38:30.000 Because they're gifts.

00:38:31.000 They're considered gifts?

00:38:33.000 Technically?

00:38:34.000 Well, they're considered donations.

00:38:35.000 Donations.

00:38:36.000 So what's the tiff or taff?

00:38:37.000 Is there expectation they're going to get something in return?

00:38:39.000 If it's a donation, that's not how donations work.

00:38:42.000 The mobile home lobby gave their, you know, half a million dollars to these entities just because they wanted people to live better lives.

00:38:49.000 I'm sure the pharmaceutical industry did never want special treatment, you know.

00:38:55.000 A certain way on a bill that might help them.

00:38:57.000 They would never want anything else.

00:38:59.000 Ian, let me explain something for you.

00:39:03.000 It's illegal to sell booze, right?

00:39:06.000 Unless you have a liquor license.

00:39:08.000 So some teenagers, some college students, got smart one day and said, I know, we'll just sell cups.

00:39:15.000 The beer is free.

00:39:16.000 Do you think the police went DRAT?

00:39:18.000 They got us!

00:39:19.000 No, they went, nice try, it's called solicitation, you're under arrest for selling beer without a license.

00:39:24.000 So, what we see here is, you don't need someone to write down, I owe you one favor in Congress, they just come to you and say, remember that 10 million we gave you?

00:39:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, well, you know what that means.

00:39:37.000 So, if a conversation like that, if it was recorded, would it be illegal?

00:39:40.000 Please, it's said daily in the halls of the Capitol, and here's how the parlance works most often.

00:39:48.000 Oh, Congressman Poole, we'd really love to have your support on that amendment, or we'd really like you to sign this letter, and we'll see you at the fundraiser next week.

00:39:56.000 It is that direct, it is that proximate, and it is that disgusting.

00:40:00.000 And the fact that people are willing to do it underneath the murals of Jefferson and Adams, underneath the bust of Washington, it is debasing and unpatriotic.

00:40:12.000 Our culture is fried, that's why.

00:40:13.000 So do you think, is it better to try to work within that system?

00:40:17.000 Find people that can actually function in the system the way that it is to actually affect policy that you want?

00:40:22.000 Or do you think that it's actually better to try to have, to elect lawmakers that will work to change the system?

00:40:29.000 Because it's so deep.

00:40:30.000 And it's so complex to actually get things done.

00:40:34.000 What's an effective means to, if not change policy, produce policy for the people that they actually want?

00:40:40.000 Because right now, the government's not doing that.

00:40:43.000 It is the question.

00:40:44.000 And I will not come to this conversation with the hubris that I know the answer.

00:40:50.000 I believe you have to change the incentive structure.

00:40:52.000 If you want to move the mouse, you have to move the cheese.

00:40:55.000 And I believe that there is an incentive structure around doing the right thing if you are willing to be bold and relentless, and if you are willing to take the criticism.

00:41:06.000 I am one of the top fundraisers in the House of Representatives, despite my unwillingness to play this game.

00:41:13.000 And it's not that I have a whole lot of billionaires who are writing, you know, $6,600 checks to me.

00:41:18.000 It's that I have 200,000 donors that go to MacAids.com and give me an average of like 80 bucks.

00:41:23.000 And that I am able to have the resources necessary to win every election I've competed in under that model.

00:41:31.000 And I've tried to show people that if you do that, the people will be there for you.

00:41:35.000 And if we didn't do dumb stuff, it wouldn't cost us as much to win elections.

00:41:40.000 That's the other thing.

00:41:41.000 The reason Tony Gonzalez needs $9 million to beat Brandon Herrera by 429 votes is because he has a really bad voting record.

00:41:49.000 If he voted better, it wouldn't have taken $9 million.

00:41:51.000 Herrera had a million.

00:41:53.000 Congratulations to Tony Gonzalez, I guess.

00:41:55.000 He had nine.

00:41:56.000 But, you know, the establishment looks at that and says, we won.

00:42:00.000 I look at a race like that and say, we are coming. 1.00

00:42:03.000 If we can align some of these things and answer Phil's question with a bit more precision and depth than I have, then the energy is there for it.

00:42:12.000 So what advice would you give to, you know, Riley Moore, who might be the new congressman from West Virginia coming in the fall?

00:42:18.000 I mean, it sounds like it's a really challenging model if everything is sort of working against you.

00:42:22.000 It really is.

00:42:23.000 And I couldn't give someone advice that could make them sufficiently resilient.

00:42:29.000 You have to believe that you ran for this job for some reason other than self-aggrandizement or to go be the valet for special interests.

00:42:39.000 And some people convince themselves that, like, well, I start as a low-level valet,

00:42:43.000 but I can move up.

00:42:44.000 And instead of just being the valet for the Corolla, I can be the valet for the Cadillac.

00:42:48.000 And then after that, the Maserati and the Rolls-Royce. 0.99

00:42:51.000 And I just look at that and say, it's dumb. 0.97

00:42:53.000 It is just, why do you even want to do that? 0.97

00:42:56.000 Wouldn't it be better to lose on the stuff that would save the country rather than just

00:43:02.000 preside over our decline?

00:43:04.000 Because these people fear losing an election.

00:43:07.000 And candidly, I've done this for eight years.

00:43:10.000 I have my moment in history.

00:43:12.000 I fear that my kids and grandkids are going to read that I was on the board of directors of this country when we went off the cliff, when it all turned upside down, and when the hope for America was lost.

00:43:22.000 And I know the people have the right values, but I see every day how disconnected our leaders are from that.

00:43:29.000 And it is tragic.

00:43:30.000 And so, like, the question is Phil's question.

00:43:33.000 Do you go every day and do you do you scrap and claw within that?

00:43:37.000 And oftentimes the people who do that justify selling out for their own advancement.

00:43:45.000 So I don't know this individual you're talking about, but I think faith is an important part of it, and mine is not perfect, but I think I've seen how the people of the strongest faith, even not my own faith, but they have strong faith, it gives them a true north that it at least is something to believe in beyond the bullshit that the special interests tell you, and then you literally hire a bunch of people who tell you you're right about everything.

00:44:13.000 Right? 0.98

00:44:13.000 People don't move up on congressional staffs because they tell their bosses they're wrong and dumb and ugly and lame and cringe. 0.98

00:44:20.000 They move up because they say you're doing great. 0.99

00:44:22.000 And that's what's addictive about it.

00:44:25.000 The fact of the matter is, like you said, the incentives are all wrong.

00:44:28.000 So, you're incentivized to, if you take the incentives and you try to work within the system to get things done, you're going to have constituents that are going to say, oh, he's a swamp monster.

00:44:36.000 You're going to have people saying, oh, he works with people I don't.

00:44:38.000 Because you have to, to have anything that's effective happen, you have to work with people that are going to make your constituents turn their nose up, right?

00:44:46.000 If you wanted to do something with, say, AOC, people are going to be like, Yeah, but I let them.

00:44:53.000 Look, AOC and I do have legislation together.

00:44:55.000 We actually think that it's crazy our government's policies on psychedelics and psilocybin and a bunch of the other things that have shown the ability to save people's lives and let them have better marriages and just, you know, Interact in a way that is not criminal or institutionalized, God forbid.

00:45:13.000 So I will work with anyone and everyone to improve the lives of my constituents.

00:45:18.000 And you get credit for that, though.

00:45:20.000 Well, and I need the votes of people who don't agree with me and who don't really buy my shtick, right?

00:45:25.000 Who say that we want somebody who's going to go and just do the job and not try to create all this trouble.

00:45:33.000 What I try to sell to those people, and why I think some of them still do vote for me, is whether you agree with me or disagree with me, I'm doing this because I believe it. 0.99

00:45:43.000 And when the people see that in a leader, I think they are willing to give you grace on disagreement if they know you aren't full of shit. 0.99

00:45:52.000 What was the reaction after the ouster of McCarthy? 0.99

00:45:55.000 The first reaction was the one you curated in Miami, Florida.

00:46:01.000 I had not been outside of Washington since the Alistair McCarthy and everything that had been going on to try to replace the Speaker.

00:46:09.000 And I did not know.

00:46:11.000 And I went into that believing that might be the end for me, politically.

00:46:15.000 And I was okay with that.

00:46:17.000 I totally zenned out that this could be a suicide mission.

00:46:22.000 We had to make a change.

00:46:25.000 You know, the, gosh, what did we have, 800 people that were at that event?

00:46:28.000 Standing ovation.

00:46:30.000 They were there for us, and it definitely was a moment I will never forget.

00:46:34.000 Because the one thing that I can say, you know a lot of people have complained about Speaker Johnson for a lot of reasons, but one thing I can say is... I'm one of them.

00:46:41.000 But you turned a billion dollars in dirty, corrupt, dark money garbage into confetti, as you described it. 0.99

00:46:48.000 And that is an amazing pie in the face for the corruption in D.C. 0.98

00:46:53.000 Well, I appreciate that, but it is but one hill, because the Empire struck back.

00:46:59.000 Mike Johnson is a tremendous impressionist.

00:47:02.000 He can do an impression of anyone.

00:47:03.000 And I just wish he would do an impression of Mike Johnson from October.

00:47:07.000 Because the Mike Johnson I sat next to for seven years and talked about every issue with was against warrantless surveillance.

00:47:16.000 But we all heard him in surveillance when he said, here's everything I believed.

00:47:20.000 And then they brought me in the back room.

00:47:21.000 subject spending bills. But what we got was continuing resolutions, an omnibus,

00:47:26.000 billions for Ukraine. But we all heard him in surveillance when he said,

00:47:31.000 here's everything I believed. And then they brought me in the back room and

00:47:35.000 when I walked out I decided all my opinions were wrong.

00:47:38.000 Well you know what?

00:47:40.000 Thomas Massie says that he was full of it. That he was in the room with him, in the

00:47:42.000 skiff with Mike, and he was like, that didn't happen. And he knows that didn't

00:47:46.000 happen. That's what he told us on Tucker Carlson. It was pretty fascinating. Yeah, I was

00:47:49.000 not in the skiff with Mike, but what I can say is I would always afford

00:47:53.000 someone like the ability to have that type of earth-shattering experience. But

00:47:58.000 if that were to happen, then it is incumbent on you.

00:48:01.000 To convince the rest of us.

00:48:03.000 Yeah.

00:48:03.000 To really convince us.

00:48:04.000 To get the smart people who really think about these things and who are fully engaged.

00:48:09.000 And if it is that searing and that meaningful, then you have the obligation as our leader to either convince us or get out of the way.

00:48:17.000 It's the one ring.

00:48:19.000 Speaker Johnson was handed the ring and he pulled a billbow in his face.

00:48:22.000 I was thinking of this like he's on the Death Star.

00:48:25.000 They're like, hello, commander.

00:48:26.000 Welcome to your new position.

00:48:27.000 Now here are all the secrets and what we're going to blow up next.

00:48:29.000 He's like, uh, and they're like, don't think about it.

00:48:31.000 And there's dudes with guns standing behind him.

00:48:33.000 And he's like, well, I signed up for this.

00:48:35.000 That's too much credit for him.

00:48:36.000 Like, we're the Empire.

00:48:38.000 I want to talk about the Empire.

00:48:39.000 And I think it's the only Empire on Earth because the Japanese Empire was shredded after World War II.

00:48:43.000 The Ottoman Empire is no more.

00:48:44.000 It's a British Empire.

00:48:45.000 Boromir.

00:48:46.000 It's a gift to use against our enemies.

00:48:48.000 He thinks he can wield the power.

00:48:52.000 Absolute power tends to corrupt absolute.

00:48:53.000 You said you're on the board of directors of the Death... You didn't say the Death Star.

00:48:56.000 I'm going to call it the Death Star.

00:48:57.000 It's the most powerful military force on Earth.

00:48:59.000 It's a business corporation.

00:49:01.000 So, like, how do you function on the board of directors along with Mike Johnson and other people in Congress?

00:49:06.000 To not to soft landing.

00:49:09.000 We don't want to blow up the earth.

00:49:10.000 We don't want do we want American military bases all over the earth? 0.98

00:49:13.000 Are they just going to turn into corporate military bases if we if we give it up the liberal power structure?

00:49:20.000 Well, if you look at Before the projection of power that you see now, there was a lot of corporatized force.

00:49:29.000 Look at Latin America in particular.

00:49:31.000 The whole concept of the Banana Republic is because United Fruit and Standard Fruit were down in Latin America standing up armies and carving nations out of the wilderness for corporate interests.

00:49:41.000 So it's not as if no part of the world has never seen what you just described.

00:49:45.000 But in terms of how I interact with a lot of these folks, Folks know what they're getting with me.

00:49:52.000 I don't have any secret plays.

00:49:55.000 I'm very transparent.

00:49:57.000 I'm very direct with people.

00:49:58.000 And folks can usually take to the bank that if I'm going to put my mind to something that usually we can be effective.

00:50:05.000 Do you guys get involved with the World Economic Forum and try and be like, look, we're headed towards a new world order of some sort.

00:50:11.000 Maybe it won't be the liberal one anymore.

00:50:13.000 You know, BRICS is obviously making a play, but do you guys get involved with these big corporatists?

00:50:17.000 Yeah, but I don't know if I grant the premise, Ian.

00:50:19.000 I don't know that nationalism is dead.

00:50:22.000 I look at what's happening in the Western Hemisphere right now.

00:50:24.000 I mean, look at these elections that we're seeing in Europe.

00:50:26.000 Look at what's going on in Germany throughout the culture.

00:50:29.000 I actually believe that we could be in the renaissance of the nation-state.

00:50:33.000 And that those are the folks that should be more worried about us than us being worried about them.

00:50:36.000 I'd like to see it, but Canada's the monarchy of Canada.

00:50:39.000 It's like the King Charles of England is the king of Canada.

00:50:42.000 You want to call it a nation?

00:50:43.000 You totally should have just made them the 14th colony. 1.00

00:50:46.000 And Australia.

00:50:47.000 We knew there was oil there.

00:50:48.000 The emperor is the king of Australia.

00:50:49.000 They would be singing Yankee Doodle instead of God Save the King.

00:50:51.000 Well, I think Western Canada would join America in a lot of ways.

00:50:54.000 I mean, I think some of them have their own ties to their national identity, but a lot of Canada is unhappy with how they're governed.

00:51:02.000 They're just sort of the minority because they're run by Justin Trudeau and because they have mass immigration that supports a more progressive government.

00:51:10.000 Yeah, but the answer to that isn't deconstructing the globalist entities that are interfering with Canada.

00:51:17.000 The answer to that is Canadians. 0.67

00:51:20.000 I think it falls back on the citizenship.

00:51:20.000 Yeah.

00:51:21.000 I think we should have more countries that feel as though their citizens are important and cultivate national identity.

00:51:26.000 I just got back from El Salvador.

00:51:26.000 If El Salvador could do it!

00:51:28.000 I went there to Bukele's inauguration.

00:51:30.000 This is one of the most impressive people I've ever met.

00:51:34.000 I'm sitting there looking at a country that was functionally a failed state and now is poised to be the Singapore of the Western Hemisphere.

00:51:42.000 And I'm thinking, if this country of six million could do this merely by locking up 70,000 people, Then I just, I don't buy that Canada is so under the thumb of the globalists that they can't prevail.

00:51:55.000 Well, and it seems like essentially it took, I know there's more, it's more complex, but it basically took one guy to turn it around.

00:52:00.000 I mean, really a lot of these countries need to pick a leader who believes in their citizens and wants to stand by them.

00:52:07.000 Yeah, and it's got to be more durable than that, right?

00:52:10.000 You know, it's got to be more durable than one guy.

00:52:13.000 But I think in every major movement, there are people who, like, become the beachhead.

00:52:19.000 And I saw in people in the Congress, people in his government, people in the diplomatic corps, bukele-ism. 0.99

00:52:27.000 Like, arising as this notion of, like, we're going to have a great band.

00:52:32.000 We're going to have a national campaign that people aren't going to litter here.

00:52:35.000 This is going to be a beautiful place that people are proud of.

00:52:37.000 And that's the stuff that I think, like, gets into the younger generation.

00:52:41.000 Bukele told me the story.

00:52:42.000 He pulled out a picture of a poor little school in El Salvador, and all of the students there, there was police, there was a chef.

00:52:52.000 There was a businessman, and he said, at this school last year, all anyone wanted to be for Halloween were gangsters and bandits.

00:53:00.000 And now every one of them wanted to be something else.

00:53:02.000 And you compare that to us.

00:53:05.000 I mean, when I was in El Salvador, Tim, Ginger wants to go sing karaoke, as you know.

00:53:09.000 She loves her some music.

00:53:11.000 So we roll out to karaoke, and everywhere is all this stuff about Father's Day.

00:53:16.000 I'm thinking, do they celebrate Father's Day a different day?

00:53:20.000 And some of the people at the bar said, oh no, we celebrate Fathers the entire month of June.

00:53:24.000 We think so much of Fathers.

00:53:25.000 Fathers Month!

00:53:26.000 I was like, ah, we do something else in the month of June.

00:53:29.000 But we should.

00:53:30.000 We should have a culture that is pro-family because that's one of the most effective ways to turn younger generations around, right?

00:53:37.000 I mean, this idea that you have young students thinking criminals are what they should aspire to be, I think that is something that happens in America as well.

00:53:45.000 But if other countries can change, hypothetically, America could too.

00:53:49.000 I just wonder if there are enough people who are willing to act on it day to day.

00:53:53.000 I don't know that we aggrandize criminality so much as just virality.

00:53:59.000 Right?

00:54:02.000 We've got young people thinking what is good is what is seen instead of like what is making some progress or making things better.

00:54:11.000 Right.

00:54:12.000 It's sort of about getting eyes on you as opposed to actually making a difference.

00:54:15.000 Yeah.

00:54:16.000 And look, I deal with it myself, right?

00:54:18.000 Oftentimes we look at our work and if people are not observing the work we are doing, if we do not draw people in to the mission that we're on in a particular part of the world.

00:54:29.000 I was real instrumental in getting our troops out of Niger.

00:54:32.000 To your point about having troops everywhere, right?

00:54:36.000 But if no one knows that, if no one sees that, are we really making a durable point rather than just taking some action?

00:54:42.000 It demands balance.

00:54:43.000 I want to jump to this clip that we have of you.

00:54:46.000 This is a tweet from Rep.

00:54:47.000 Matt Gaetz, who said, The interim chief investment officer of CalPERS wants more diverse perspective and DEI hires at his company.

00:54:54.000 This is five minutes but worth every bit of it and the end is the best.

00:54:58.000 All right, well, let's hit it.

00:54:59.000 Let's play it so you can hear it.

00:55:00.000 Mr. Bienvenu, how much do you invest each year on behalf of how many of your members?

00:55:07.000 We manage a $500 billion portfolio on behalf of our 2.2 million members and beneficiaries.

00:55:12.000 And you've highlighted your principal responsibility is return for those beneficiaries, right?

00:55:19.000 Now who is this guy and what does he represent?

00:55:21.000 So this guy represents all of California's public workers and he invests all of their money and what they're doing is they're bullying companies to accept DEI and ESG if they want these investments and if they make the investment...

00:55:39.000 They're actually going in and voting against folks who might be on the board based on the color of their skin.

00:55:44.000 And the public workers can't choose to use a different retirement.

00:55:48.000 Oh, no.

00:55:49.000 Oh, no.

00:55:49.000 This is it.

00:55:49.000 They have to go with this.

00:55:50.000 You're forced to work with this guy.

00:55:52.000 Let's play the clip.

00:55:52.000 The thing that we do every day is about generating returns to pay benefits.

00:55:55.000 You've worked there 20 years.

00:55:57.000 You've been the principal deputy since 2020, right?

00:56:01.000 I was named the deputy chief investment officer in August of 2020, or I'm sorry, in April of 2020.

00:56:05.000 Okay, great.

00:56:07.000 And so I think there's some parallels between what's going on with ESG and DEI.

00:56:11.000 You don't deny that CalPERS has a DEI agenda, right?

00:56:18.000 CalPERS is all about generating returns to pay benefits, and every topic that we approach is through that lens.

00:56:24.000 Well, does DEI improve the returns to your investors?

00:56:30.000 I think part of good governance of a company is having diverse perspectives brought to bear as they manage that company, and I feel strongly about that for the investment team that I lead also.

00:56:39.000 We want diverse perspectives.

00:56:40.000 And what is the evidence that you rely on for the belief that the DEI agenda will produce better returns?

00:56:48.000 Is there any study, report, analysis?

00:56:52.000 You know, as an investor, I read research reports constantly.

00:56:55.000 I probably read five, six, eight of them a day.

00:56:57.000 So over the course of my career, that's probably been thousands.

00:57:01.000 I know, I'm just wondering if there's one that kind of sticks in your mind and you say, Congressman, I'm here to do good by these 2.2 million beneficiaries and my embrace of DEI.

00:57:10.000 This is what I can point to as the evidence that that's helping them.

00:57:15.000 Every data-based study can tell lots of different things, and every data works that way.

00:57:21.000 That's the way investing works.

00:57:22.000 And remember that when we're focused on investing, we're focused on how we... Mr. Bambi, you can either decide to study or you can't.

00:57:29.000 You can't, right?

00:57:31.000 I found a study that actually CalPERS did.

00:57:37.000 CalPERS did this study.

00:57:38.000 It's entitled Emerging Diverse Manager Data Report.

00:57:42.000 And I'm citing from the sixth page of report where it says, since inception, current diverse managers generally underperformed non-diverse managers in the asset class in the policy benchmark.

00:57:55.000 Are you familiar with this report?

00:57:58.000 Can I see a copy of that study, please?

00:57:59.000 Well, Mr. Chairman, I seek unanimous consent to enter into the record the emerging diverse manager report published by CalPERS.

00:58:06.000 Without objection.

00:58:07.000 I'm not able to show it to you now, but you don't have any basis to disagree with the agency you've been a part of leading, saying that the diverse, the DEI hires aren't doing as well as the non-DEI hires.

00:58:21.000 As I say, when we think about diversity, we think about diverse perspectives being brought to bear on investment decisions.

00:58:26.000 Right, but okay, so those are two different things, Mr. Biamini, because on one hand, there's provide returns for my investors, and what your own data says is that your DEI hire is underperformed there.

00:58:36.000 And then on the other hand, you say, well, these diverse perspectives are really important.

00:58:40.000 But I worry about the market manipulation and the bullying, because as I review what CalPERS has put out under its own investment guidelines, You brag about the fact that you voted against 768 directors at the companies you invest in most recently, and then in the prior year you'd only voted against 133 directors.

00:59:01.000 So, is CalPERS voting against people as directors for companies based on their skin color?

00:59:08.000 We take up every vote independently based on the merits of the vote itself.

00:59:12.000 Right, but do you ever consider, like, someone's skin color?

00:59:16.000 Because it's pretty immutable.

00:59:17.000 People don't choose to be white or black or Asian.

00:59:19.000 They just are.

00:59:22.000 We choose based on what will make the best oversight.

00:59:24.000 You're under oath here, Mr. Bienvenu.

00:59:25.000 Can you deny, under oath, that CalPERS is voting against directors based on the color of their skin?

00:59:33.000 I can tell you we make every vote based on what'll make that the best board for oversight of that company.

00:59:38.000 Right, but the best board is actually not doing so well.

00:59:42.000 So, Mr. Chairman, let's look at the scorecard.

00:59:44.000 In the state of Florida, where we aren't pushing ESG and DEI, the Florida retirement system is netting a 7.5% notch for the fiscal year.

00:59:54.000 May I enter that into the record?

00:59:55.000 Objection.

00:59:57.000 Reports only 5.8% for 2022 to 2023.

00:59:59.000 Can I enter that into the record as well?

01:00:02.000 Without objection.

01:00:03.000 So you're not performing as well.

01:00:06.000 Your own data says that your DEI hires aren't performing as well, and you were there for 20 years, and you applied twice for the chief investment position, and you were passed over for that position twice, and you said you weren't going to apply for it the third time because you'd been passed over twice, and I guess they've hired an immigrant to do that job instead. 0.98

01:00:25.000 Do you think that maybe You were passed over for some of these DEI reasons?

01:00:31.000 CalPERS hiring decisions is their own hiring decisions and I'm not really a part of that

01:00:35.000 candidate.

01:00:36.000 Clearly you aren't.

01:00:41.000 You know, so my question to you, Matt, is did you witness the spine be ripped from that man's back, or did he show up without one?

01:00:49.000 He was not just a DEI purveyor, he was also a victim.

01:00:52.000 And, like, there are moments you want to feel bad for these people, but actually the institutionalized racism that is DEI only happens because there are people like that.

01:01:02.000 Because there are people that are willing to do it.

01:01:03.000 Imagine being one of the people that was up for one of these board positions and it was just, you were too white. 0.99

01:01:09.000 You didn't get hired.

01:01:10.000 And then what message does that send all the way down an organization like that and throughout the economy?

01:01:16.000 And at some point, isn't that why we have antitrust laws?

01:01:19.000 If there is collusion to literally de-white-ify the entire corporate system in our country, doesn't that seem worse than what Standard Oil was doing?

01:01:28.000 It does to me.

01:01:30.000 Well, there's a funny meme, and I can't remember who posted it, but they said, isn't it funny that if someone flies an American flag, you know exactly who they're voting for?

01:01:40.000 Yeah.

01:01:40.000 Didn't used to be that way, by the way.

01:01:41.000 That's kind of scary, because what that says to me is that there's an invasive force taking over our country.

01:01:47.000 And if they're flying it upside down, I know how they're voting in primaries.

01:01:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:01:53.000 But it's scary.

01:01:53.000 I mean, you have, you know, when I was at the Trump rallies in 2015, people are flying Mexican flags.

01:01:59.000 They're outside protesting Donald Trump.

01:02:01.000 Isn't that the argument about nationalism?

01:02:03.000 At some level?

01:02:04.000 You know, people are flying their flag.

01:02:06.000 Yeah, but they're flying it in the United States, saying, make California Mexico again.

01:02:12.000 And then you have millions of people crossing the border, they march to this country with their flags of their home nations, illegally enter, and then my favorite thing, Is, uh, I said it sarcastically, Joe Biden claiming he's securing the border by setting a threshold to allow illegal immigration.

01:02:33.000 Crossing the border is a crime.

01:02:34.000 Okay, okay.

01:02:34.000 Can we get into the Biden border thing?

01:02:36.000 Yeah, of course.

01:02:36.000 Okay, so first of all, we get Joe Biden raising his hand at the Democrat debate, saying, I will give the illegal aliens free health care.

01:02:45.000 We remember that moment, right?

01:02:46.000 A pretty searing moment.

01:02:47.000 He gets elected.

01:02:48.000 They show up at the border, like, waving their Biden signs with their Biden t-shirts.

01:02:53.000 Kind of obvious that that moment has induced this.

01:02:55.000 Then they all get here, and then they say, the border's secure.

01:02:59.000 Remember there was the whole border is secure era?

01:03:02.000 Well, they also said he had gone to the border.

01:03:03.000 Like, we don't know what's going on.

01:03:05.000 Well, then after they couldn't maintain that era anymore, they went to, the border is chaos,

01:03:09.000 but it's actually the Republicans' fault that the border's in chaos.

01:03:12.000 And we're like, yo, just reinstitute the Trump policies.

01:03:14.000 Like, no, no, no, we have to have the Lankford bill.

01:03:16.000 Then we went into that era.

01:03:18.000 Remember the era where the only way we were going to secure the border was with a bill

01:03:21.000 that let in 5,000 people every day.

01:03:24.000 And a bunch of us were like, you actually don't need a bill at all.

01:03:26.000 You just need to undo the stuff you did to screw with the Trump policies and everything

01:03:30.000 will be fine.

01:03:31.000 And lo and behold, here we have with no bill at all, Joe Biden doing the very thing that

01:03:36.000 we've been calling for the whole time, maintaining the border that Trump did, or at least asserting

01:03:41.000 he will.

01:03:42.000 But what he's done is...

01:03:43.000 If you go back to when, I think it was Homan, was that his name?

01:03:48.000 He says it is a crime to illegally cross the border outside of a port of entry, and he cites the code.

01:03:54.000 What's happening now is Joe Biden says, oh, we got 10,000 coming across the border every day.

01:03:59.000 Well, I'm going to make it 1,500.

01:04:02.000 That's an increase of 1,500 from zero.

01:04:04.000 It's all illegal. 0.79

01:04:05.000 They should all be deported and arrested and detained.

01:04:08.000 Why are we allowing any amount of it?

01:04:10.000 Well, we shouldn't.

01:04:10.000 I mean, by the way, and that's not enough.

01:04:12.000 I mean, we truly have to engage in internal enforcement of our immigration policies at this point or we don't have a country.

01:04:19.000 And it's simple.

01:04:21.000 There's no reason an illegal alien should be released into this country if you have the title 42 public health authorities remain in Mexico and safe third country. 0.71

01:04:29.000 Those three things give you a detain or remove option with every illegal immigrant. 0.99

01:04:34.000 But shouldn't we also disincentivize people coming here illegally? 1.00

01:04:37.000 Like, shouldn't we end birthright citizenship so people don't say, well, I just need to rush to the border and have a kid?

01:04:42.000 We're in the minority in the developed world with the way we treat citizenship.

01:04:47.000 I think we're the only country in the developed world that doesn't.

01:04:50.000 We get played by third world narcos. 0.78

01:04:52.000 Like, the next generation of cartel talent slip across the border, have their babies, and then they get the full suite of rights that we would afford any American.

01:05:00.000 And the Chinese get their birthing suites! 0.95

01:05:02.000 No, no, no.

01:05:02.000 They do it via surrogate, too.

01:05:04.000 This is the crazy thing.

01:05:05.000 It's a surrogacy.

01:05:06.000 They'll hire an American woman to carry a Chinese Communist Party child, and then it's born in America, brought right back to China, but has citizenship rights. 0.92

01:05:17.000 We're literally being reduced to our wombs for the Chinese. 0.99

01:05:20.000 It's crazy.

01:05:20.000 But this is the thing.

01:05:21.000 I feel like it's the last step in one belt, one road, our wombs. 0.82

01:05:25.000 Yeah.

01:05:25.000 Well, we hear a lot about mass deportations.

01:05:27.000 Is Trump going to do it?

01:05:28.000 I think that would be a great idea, but I don't think it's enough.

01:05:31.000 We should enforce the laws in our books.

01:05:32.000 Yes, but we should also revise the laws that encourage people to come here illegally.

01:05:35.000 And that requires an attorney general that's willing to write a policy on subject to the jurisdiction thereof around the constitutional provisions of birthright citizenship, and I'm for it.

01:05:47.000 Matt, you're aware of the people that were arrested, I believe, in New York, essentially ISIS members?

01:05:52.000 Yeah.

01:05:56.000 The repercussions of having an open border and having this kind of stuff, because if there's six that were picked up, I mean, I don't think it's six out of 10 million.

01:06:03.000 I think it's probably a whole lot more.

01:06:05.000 And it's not just one group.

01:06:07.000 There are multiple groups that have significant problems with the United States and have, I personally believe, that have used the open border to send people into the United States to cause problems.

01:06:19.000 Remember that trip Mike Johnson led House Republicans on down to Eagle Pass?

01:06:23.000 Oh yeah.

01:06:23.000 We got there a little bit early and we talked to some of the folks who were there and they said, Congressman, some of the folks angriest about this are FBI and Homeland Security investigations because they had a whole special group here that they'd rounded up that they had questions on based on country of origin, where they were from, not saying everyone was a terrorist, but definitely some people that deserve some extra screening.

01:06:44.000 And when they found out all of you were coming, those folks were dispersed and just sent out anywhere.

01:06:48.000 Also, I heard Mayorkas talking about U.S.

01:06:52.000 installations along the road that they're taking to get here in other countries.

01:06:58.000 I don't remember, I don't have the clip up here, but I heard Mayorkas talking, I think it was in front of Congress, talking about there are U.S.

01:07:04.000 installations assisting people that are making the journey.

01:07:08.000 Which, I don't know the ins and outs of it, but that seems absolutely absurd to me.

01:07:13.000 But it also doesn't seem out of what the administration would do.

01:07:17.000 It's a global network.

01:07:18.000 We see evidence that it's a global network, and we are a piece of that.

01:07:21.000 And we fund that.

01:07:22.000 And I was told by our House leadership that in the last spending bill, the reduction in spending of the NGOs that move people around by 20% was a real concession that we got.

01:07:32.000 A real win.

01:07:32.000 What was it up from the year before?

01:07:35.000 They've been dealing with sizable increases.

01:07:37.000 I don't know the percentage.

01:07:38.000 But they did 20% less over a year?

01:07:41.000 One year?

01:07:41.000 Yeah, but I mean, look, we should not be paying for one cent of our own invasion.

01:07:45.000 If like the hill we were dying on was the NGOs, then we should have gotten every bit of that.

01:07:50.000 That's why I don't understand how we can send more money to Ukraine than we do to our own border.

01:07:54.000 Like, it seems crazy to me that this was the priority of the Biden administration, and to a certain extent, a lot of Congress.

01:08:00.000 I mean, what happened?

01:08:02.000 Yeah, I had one of the senior leaders of the Marine Corps sitting down, and I asked him, you know, how big his budget was.

01:08:07.000 He told me, I said, what if we just doubled it?

01:08:09.000 So I've never had a congressman ask me that before.

01:08:12.000 Usually folks are asking me to cut money or what could I reposition, but gosh, I could do all these things if I doubled it.

01:08:19.000 You realize the last authorization we wrote for Ukraine is bigger than the funding of the entire Marine Corps in the United States.

01:08:27.000 We could give that money to Ukraine for one year or have an entire other Marine Corps.

01:08:32.000 And at a time when our recruiting is failing, when our facilities in a lot of these bases are, see the barracks moldy and the food's bad, like for our own troops, it sucks to see us doing this where we're not even following our end use monitoring laws, where we're retiring Ukrainian debt service.

01:08:50.000 And I sort of wonder like what victory looks like.

01:08:52.000 And when I've asked questions of the Biden admin officials, like, okay, so Does Putin's strategic defeat, that's what they always use, does that mean that Crimea has to be repatriated?

01:09:05.000 And the answer from all of them is yes.

01:09:08.000 Right, so this is the new forever war.

01:09:11.000 And I'm sorry, but I've lived my whole life watching these wars.

01:09:14.000 There'll be nuclear missiles flying if it's wrong.

01:09:17.000 Oh no, I don't believe that.

01:09:19.000 I think that the goal of the liberal order and the regime is to maintain Ukraine as a weapons and money laundering mecca for the next 30 years. 0.92

01:09:28.000 Yeah, but we have Russian ships off the coast of Florida now. 0.53

01:09:33.000 I'll be straight with you.

01:09:34.000 I'm not worried about Russian assets near Florida so much as I am the Chinese ones.

01:09:39.000 And you know, and I'll explain it because Cuba used to have all these, you know, rusted out Russian facilities.

01:09:45.000 They barely could get the propane to those places to turn the lights on.

01:09:48.000 Okay, they were so sucked up into what was going on in Ukraine.

01:09:52.000 And then over the last Several years, we have seen the Chinese go in with a leveraged buyout of Russian assets in Cuba, and you're seeing new antennas, you're seeing new intel, you're seeing new crews with new manning structures, and that is a Chinese

01:10:09.000 You know, stationary aircraft carrier 90 miles off my home state.

01:10:13.000 That worries me less than, like, some Russian vessels sort of wandering by the Florida coast.

01:10:19.000 Worries you more or less?

01:10:20.000 I'm sorry.

01:10:21.000 The Chinese in Cuba worry me more. 1.00

01:10:23.000 I just got an idea real quick.

01:10:24.000 Just totally.

01:10:24.000 Yeah.

01:10:25.000 Because I pulled up this photo for the previous segment where all of these illegal immigrants are wearing shirts that say, Biden, please pull this up, Serge.

01:10:33.000 Biden, please let us in.

01:10:35.000 And they have their heads down.

01:10:37.000 They're acting sad.

01:10:39.000 I just got an idea.

01:10:40.000 Here's what I'm gonna do.

01:10:41.000 I'm gonna buy a bunch of properties in like New York, Chicago, and LA.

01:10:44.000 And then I'm going to rent them out at great rates to young, liberal college kids.

01:10:49.000 And then after a few months, I'm going to let them know that I've decided to let a bunch of illegal immigrants stay in their apartment free of charge, and they're gonna have to take care of them. 1.00

01:10:57.000 It's on them, but they're good people, so they'll accept it.

01:11:00.000 And then we'll see what their politics turn into.

01:11:02.000 Is this also a reality TV show, or are there hidden cameras?

01:11:04.000 Oh, yeah.

01:11:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the jury, Mr. Poole did not actively engage in human trafficking in this experiment.

01:11:10.000 Sounds like you're attempting to inoculate their psyche.

01:11:12.000 I let him in.

01:11:13.000 And it'll only be the illegal immigrants who have been paroled. 0.76

01:11:17.000 You think them doing something wrong and then charging somebody else for it is something this crew wouldn't do?

01:11:24.000 I am not seriously considering renting out properties.

01:11:26.000 But my point is, these people come to the border and they say, Biden, please let me in.

01:11:30.000 It's like, bro, he's not the boss of us.

01:11:33.000 We live here, too.

01:11:33.000 You're not asking Biden.

01:11:35.000 You're basically saying, hey, Biden, stab the American people in the back for me.

01:11:38.000 By the way, this is not happening in Florida. 0.99

01:11:41.000 This is happening in New York, this is happening in Chicago, and there's a little bit of, you all wanted these sanctuary policies, you elected leaders who gave you these sanctuary policies, here's your fucking sanctuary. 0.93

01:11:52.000 Yes, but it's affecting us politically.

01:11:54.000 They are giving Democrats free congressional seats, and they're giving them free electoral college votes, and then it's weighted against the American people when it comes to how we run our country.

01:12:03.000 Yeah, well that's why I think the administration, the Trump administration, made a mistake in the last go-around by not Why couldn't the Trump administration get that done?

01:12:14.000 It seems critical to me.

01:12:15.000 That's a distinct feature.

01:12:17.000 Yeah, but that doesn't require some new law. 0.97

01:12:19.000 I think we've got the ability administratively to make that change.

01:12:22.000 Why couldn't the Trump administration get that done?

01:12:23.000 It seems critical to me.

01:12:24.000 I think at the very beginning, you had people running that decision process

01:12:29.000 that were afraid of criticism.

01:12:31.000 Like a staffing error, you're saying?

01:12:33.000 I think these were senior officials.

01:12:35.000 You know, it turned me off at the very beginning, but I was treating it more like asking me what my religion was or my medical history.

01:12:42.000 I was like, what?

01:12:43.000 Who has the right?

01:12:44.000 Now, in retrospect, they should have supported it more.

01:12:46.000 I don't know.

01:12:46.000 Isn't it kind of like a count of the people in our country?

01:12:48.000 It seems legit to ask.

01:12:49.000 Doesn't it matter how many citizens are here?

01:12:51.000 If you're a citizen.

01:12:53.000 Yeah.

01:12:54.000 So do you think that this is something that there's another way to correct for?

01:12:59.000 Or do you think that the unknown headcount of how many illegal people are in this country illegally will kind of go on?

01:13:04.000 You don't get another census till 2030.

01:13:06.000 So you get Trump in, you change this policy, and you're on better footing for the next census.

01:13:12.000 That's the solution.

01:13:13.000 But that would come two years into an administration after that.

01:13:16.000 Is there, like, how many safeguards?

01:13:18.000 Yeah, we gotta be ready to run the baton race. 0.93

01:13:20.000 Oh, well, you know, this is actually a really, really interesting tactic for a landlord who's trying to evict their young, hippie tenants.

01:13:27.000 Just invite a bunch of illegal immigrants to live there, and then they'll be put between a rock and a hard place of, do I complain to my friends that my landlord is putting refugees in my house, and then become shunned and ostracized for being far right, or do I just leave? 1.00

01:13:40.000 But then what do you do with the illegal immigrants who are living in your building? 1.00

01:13:42.000 No, they leave right away.

01:13:44.000 I don't know that they would.

01:13:45.000 Yeah.

01:13:45.000 Why?

01:13:46.000 Because the deal you offer them is like, hey, I'm gonna let you stay here for a week and say, okay.

01:13:50.000 Oh, so you think desperate people will honor the righteousness of your deal?

01:13:54.000 See, Matt, that's the best part.

01:13:55.000 They won't go to the police because they're scared of being deported.

01:13:58.000 In this country now?

01:13:59.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

01:14:01.000 Because you mentioned- I'm not actually suggesting you rent properties out to young people and then move- I'm making a thought experiment point that they would- It's only fun if we get to probe your thought experiment. 0.90

01:14:09.000 Tim is trolling us live.

01:14:11.000 The point is, they would never accept it.

01:14:14.000 That hippie, liberal, young people, lefty, pro-illegal immigration would go far right on a dime.

01:14:21.000 Oh look, you see those pro-Hamas protests going around everywhere?

01:14:25.000 Those seem like some pretty sunshine revolutionaries to me.

01:14:30.000 Any place where they've turned on the sprinkler system, those protests have dissolved like a cheap piece of toilet paper.

01:14:37.000 We suggested to turn the air conditioning off at Columbia and the protest is gone.

01:14:40.000 Yeah, turn the Wi-Fi off.

01:14:41.000 Wi-Fi, they're gone.

01:14:42.000 They can't tweet about what they're doing, they're gone.

01:14:44.000 Because you mentioned that Florida is operating so differently than New York and other places, I wanted to ask what your relationship with Governor DeSantis is like.

01:14:50.000 Strained, unfortunately.

01:14:52.000 I wish it wasn't so.

01:14:52.000 Why?

01:14:54.000 I think that he takes exception to the people who back Trump, you know, who were Floridians.

01:14:58.000 A bunch of us did.

01:14:59.000 And when Ron ran in 2018, he had no bigger supporter than me.

01:15:03.000 It was a three-person show.

01:15:05.000 It was me, Casey, and Ron.

01:15:06.000 And I was really proud to be a part of that campaign.

01:15:09.000 I was Ron's transition chairman when he was first elected governor.

01:15:13.000 I was inspired by his leadership style.

01:15:16.000 But Ron is an extreme introvert.

01:15:18.000 And I knew that that would be on display in a presidential contest in a way that it might not have been during a governor contest.

01:15:24.000 And I don't think that makes him a bad person.

01:15:26.000 I work with people who are introverts and who are really great leaders and effective.

01:15:31.000 But when you run for president, you have to look like you're enjoying doing it.

01:15:34.000 And when you saw an energy with the vague, you always see it with Trump was having the best time handing out pizzas, telling stories.

01:15:43.000 And you know, Ron sort of always be always looked eager for the event to conclude.

01:15:47.000 And that was not unpredictable.

01:15:50.000 But, you know, I wish him well.

01:15:53.000 I'm a cheerleader for the policies that he's put in place.

01:15:56.000 Ron DeSantis has single-handedly enacted what we've been trying to do in Florida for the last 15 years.

01:16:03.000 And we're going to be a better state for it, but I can't say we have a strong personal connection anymore.

01:16:09.000 Who do you think is next in line for the governorship?

01:16:12.000 I don't know.

01:16:12.000 It's a long time away.

01:16:13.000 It depends on how it goes in 2024.

01:16:16.000 And I think it also is just a feature of the rightward move of our state.

01:16:24.000 I mean, when I came up in Florida politics, we had 200,000 less Republicans than we had Democrats.

01:16:29.000 We have a million more Republicans than we have Democrats.

01:16:31.000 We look more like Arkansas than we do Florida and In the 2000s, which is kind of where people think about us politically.

01:16:37.000 So I think we're going to continue to have unified Republican control.

01:16:39.000 I think that we need a strong, bold, conservative leader in the mold of Governor DeSantis.

01:16:44.000 Because it's not just that.

01:16:45.000 That's the easy one because you're from Florida.

01:16:46.000 But then there's also the heir to MAGA, as it were, like after Trump.

01:16:51.000 I mean, who's going to be lining up?

01:16:51.000 2028.

01:16:53.000 I just am glad that that's the discussion we're having, because success has many fathers and failure is an orphan.

01:16:59.000 And, you know, we were here making the case about Trump being uniquely positioned to continue leading this movement at a time when people were saying, well, he's sort of done his part.

01:17:08.000 What's next?

01:17:09.000 What's the new flavor that we're going to seize on to?

01:17:11.000 And I think we understood the unique role that he had to continue to play.

01:17:15.000 And that's where I am right now.

01:17:17.000 I'm following President Trump.

01:17:19.000 I think that if we win, if we build out a great government, if we start delivering on strong administrative action, if we have a Congress that's a partner rather than whatever the Mitch McConnell-Paul Ryan two-headed monster was, if we get all that in place, then we're going to have a lot of great choices.

01:17:35.000 And we have a lot of great choices.

01:17:36.000 I know you won't tell me, but what do you see as your future politically?

01:17:40.000 Would you go to Florida and be the governor?

01:17:42.000 Do you want to run for another office?

01:17:44.000 Do you want to be in Trump's White House?

01:17:46.000 I mean, what happens to you in November?

01:17:49.000 I really don't know.

01:17:49.000 I don't know.

01:17:50.000 And I've done this for a long time.

01:17:52.000 I first got elected to office in 2010.

01:17:54.000 And what I've learned is that, like, if you start to plan out, oh, well, this cycle, I'm going to run for this.

01:17:58.000 And then this opportunity opens up.

01:18:01.000 You know, just like the best laid plans of mice and men to me, I know what my job is now.

01:18:07.000 We've got to get this Congress fixed.

01:18:09.000 It cannot keep going like it is.

01:18:10.000 If we keep making decisions the way we do with the corrupt influences we have, then we're going to lose the country.

01:18:17.000 And I know that's my role and my job.

01:18:20.000 There are three quick ethics things that I think would fix a bunch of it.

01:18:23.000 One, if you ban the lobbyist and PAC money.

01:18:25.000 Two, if you ban members of Congress from becoming lobbyists or registered foreign agents.

01:18:32.000 Because so many people who are supposed to be working now for the people are actually thinking about their job on the other side of the wire.

01:18:38.000 And then the third thing is, for the same reason, you don't let the umpire bet on the game, we should not have members of Congress trading individual stocks.

01:18:45.000 You do those three things, It will have a really therapeutic effect on the institution.

01:18:50.000 Yeah, but the issue I take with that is, you know, I want to adopt the Pelosi strategy, right?

01:18:55.000 That's where you track her stock investments and you get rich quick. 0.92

01:19:00.000 You ban Pelosi from trading, how am I going to know what to invest in?

01:19:04.000 Just keep playing poker, Tim.

01:19:05.000 That's right, I will.

01:19:06.000 Chase the flush draw! 0.99

01:19:08.000 I think that if Trump wins and MAGA Republicans win in Congress, and hopefully in the Senate, I think that could trigger not a civil war, but a realignment that forces a lot of Democrats to reprioritize to try and win elections again.

01:19:25.000 So if— So they come back to the middle in your theory?

01:19:28.000 They'd be forced to.

01:19:29.000 So what you want is— That's not going to happen.

01:19:32.000 Well— Do you think that these genderless, purple-haired Woketopians are going to wake up one day and be like, you know, if we had more centrist economic policies, maybe we'd get more suburban white lady votes? 1.00

01:19:41.000 Those people are lost.

01:19:42.000 But you do have a lot of Democrats who aren't purple-haired.

01:19:46.000 And what's going to happen is they're going to be sitting there saying like, look, we just saw like a five point swing towards the GOP in our district, which is supposed to be D plus 13.

01:19:55.000 Clearly, this stuff's not working.

01:19:57.000 We're going to lose an election.

01:19:58.000 We're going to lose ground.

01:20:00.000 Donald Trump going to New York, going to San Francisco, going to the Bronx.

01:20:04.000 I mean, did he go to San Francisco?

01:20:05.000 I don't know.

01:20:06.000 He did, didn't he?

01:20:07.000 I know that he was in California.

01:20:08.000 But I don't know about San Francisco.

01:20:08.000 California.

01:20:10.000 I'm hoping that this can force—you don't think there's any hope at all?

01:20:15.000 I think that men are leaving the Democratic Party at a rapid rate.

01:20:19.000 We're at a point where, very soon, the most masculine force in the Democratic Party are going to be the trans women. 0.98

01:20:25.000 They're going to be the ones in charge. 0.58

01:20:27.000 They're going to be the only men left.

01:20:30.000 I mean, I don't know what the Democratic Party has to offer men today.

01:20:30.000 I think that's true.

01:20:34.000 You know, I think it's – I know we talk about this a lot, that the Democratic Party for some people has left them behind.

01:20:40.000 Their policies are more in line with what the Democrats were like maybe 50 years ago.

01:20:46.000 But I think ultimately there is – I think a lot of the youngest generation doesn't like either party and so they sort of look at each election sifting out, well, what are my interests and who is most qualified to represent me?

01:20:59.000 Like, don't you think that the way the counterculture dynamic has worked in that respect leans right now?

01:21:04.000 I mean, we're either tied or a little bit up with the under 30 crowd.

01:21:07.000 And for some reason, me in particular, I do very well with the under 30 crowd.

01:21:11.000 And I used to be part of that crowd, but it's been a hot minute.

01:21:14.000 Uh, and so I think it's because, like, when I was in school, all my teachers were these, like, kind of liberal wimps.

01:21:22.000 I'm sorry, all my teachers were, like, the buttoned-up conservatives, right?

01:21:24.000 They were all the, like, you know, they all were, like, part of the Rotary Club and, you know, had their hair in the bun, and now they're the liberal wimps.

01:21:31.000 And so you got students now who are, like, the way to post up on your pansexual teacher is to, like, want to get married and be normal and straight.

01:21:41.000 Yeah, I think the issue is Young people are lonely.

01:21:45.000 No, there's a loneliness epidemic.

01:21:47.000 And I think men and women are now seeing that the progressivism has led to just pain and emotional pain and loneliness.

01:21:57.000 So you're getting a lot of young men.

01:21:58.000 There was a funny story I heard where there was like a college party and all the guys were drunk and started singing the Star Spangled Banner and the women just looked around like, Like, what do we do?

01:22:06.000 Because women are going left and men are going right. 1.00

01:22:11.000 Younger guys, I think, you know, you look at Andrew Tate, you look at Jordan Peterson, you can look at the good or the bad, doesn't matter.

01:22:17.000 Young men are lonely, they're upset, and they're looking for masculine role models, and the Democrats are telling men to F off.

01:22:24.000 I think there is definitely an aspect to that.

01:22:26.000 I also think for the, you know, Fresh 18 to 22 year olds, they were young under Trump's economy and probably watched their parents stress less than they do now trying to set up their own lives.

01:22:39.000 What's the cure to loneliness, you think?

01:22:42.000 Friendship?

01:22:43.000 I think it's community building, and I think this starts with the family.

01:22:46.000 I think the nuclear family in America isn't valued enough, but we also see it in the fact that there's less religious participation.

01:22:52.000 People aren't volunteering at the same rates.

01:22:54.000 We are ultimately on our screens all the time thinking we're pseudo-connected to people as opposed to actually... The cure for loneliness for men is meaning.

01:23:02.000 Give them something to do.

01:23:04.000 Give them something that matters.

01:23:05.000 But think about this.

01:23:07.000 17 year old kid, young man, sitting in his room, playing video games, saying, I don't know what to do to improve my life.

01:23:15.000 I don't know where to go.

01:23:17.000 Imagine one day they decided to go to church.

01:23:19.000 The people there would instantly be like, you're saved.

01:23:22.000 You're amazing.

01:23:22.000 We love you.

01:23:23.000 Come hang out with us.

01:23:24.000 We'll teach you things.

01:23:24.000 We'll show you things.

01:23:25.000 They're going to meet some guy and he's going to be like, let me show you how to do woodworking or something.

01:23:29.000 Instant community among people who want to help them and make their lives better.

01:23:34.000 I think this is probably why A lot of young men are drifting towards Jordan Peterson and, again, for better or for worse, Andrew Tate.

01:23:42.000 And Donald Trump.

01:23:43.000 It used to be the military was a big part of a community like that and this weird military where they fired a bunch of people for not getting the... It's like... 8,600 people.

01:23:54.000 More than the entire militaries of some of our NATO allies.

01:23:56.000 Talk about resolute human beings unwilling to waver.

01:24:00.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:24:00.000 Are they going to bring them back?

01:24:02.000 Well, if they come back, they will not be automatically barred, but my legislation to give them full rank restoration and back pay, if we have screwed them over, we have not been able to get a vote on.

01:24:14.000 I think that, you know, I've met many people.

01:24:17.000 It's not just the vaccine mandate stuff, which was a kick in the balls to many, many good people, but the DEI stuff in the military.

01:24:24.000 I've met many Officers who said that they've and many I mean like two or three because I don't know a lot of me But a couple I spoke to a couple got a lot of military who watch this show and a lot of enlisted guys But a lot of I've had a couple a handful of officers Tell me that they've resigned their their their commissions because of DEI I had one guy say that it was his dream to retire from the military as an old man and live out the rest of his days and he was leaving in his mid-30s because of DEI

01:24:52.000 The old men who are willing to do that are the people who make a great country and lead a great country and inspire generations of service.

01:25:00.000 And I'll give you one of the DEI stories from this Biden administration.

01:25:03.000 Lloyd Austin comes in, he says, well, one thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to take everybody's picture off their promotion packet.

01:25:09.000 Because people's inherent cultural bias could get them to see the picture and not pick someone who isn't like them.

01:25:15.000 And then, of course, after that happened for a little while, do you think we became a more diverse officer class or a less diverse officer class?

01:25:22.000 Of course!

01:25:23.000 And then he had to reverse that policy.

01:25:25.000 But it just shows that this stuff is driven with such reflex, and it reduces us to our immutable traits.

01:25:35.000 Like, this is America, not some slave auction.

01:25:37.000 We're not reduced to our immutable traits.

01:25:39.000 We are a dynamic, interconnected group of people that ought to be able to judge one another based on what's on the inside, not on the outside.

01:25:46.000 That used to not even be a controversial view, and now, when you say it, people think you're a racist.

01:25:51.000 So, Matt, like I said before, I really think the biggest thing that young men need is meaning, which is part of the reason why young men do respond well in the military.

01:25:58.000 Like, you've got a team together, you've got guys together, you've got bros that you're hanging out with, you don't want to let your team down.

01:26:02.000 There's a meaning.

01:26:04.000 You can work together.

01:26:04.000 You've got a goal.

01:26:06.000 It's great for young men.

01:26:08.000 One of the things that I'm thinking about, or that has been on my mind lately, is the fact that when you have a nation of young men without meaning, that have economic problems, you've got a tinderbox of social problems. 0.96

01:26:22.000 Because young guys that don't have stuff to do, they go out and they get into fights.

01:26:25.000 They go out and they commit crime.

01:26:27.000 They go out and they do bad stuff.

01:26:28.000 What kind of policy Is it possible?

01:26:33.000 Not even should we implement.

01:26:35.000 What kind of policy is possible to fix that?

01:26:36.000 Because right now I think that most of the problems that we have come from the fact that the young men are not being given any kind of support from society.

01:26:47.000 Is that fixable?

01:26:48.000 I don't know.

01:26:49.000 I kind of like go back to the...

01:26:52.000 Like, the calls of nature, right?

01:26:53.000 Like, what does a man want? 1.00

01:26:54.000 Like, you want a companion, you want a family, you want a home, you want, you know, shelter.

01:27:00.000 Like, the caveman wanted certain things, and I think that we're not all that different now.

01:27:05.000 And the more you deprive people of that, the more it's like, hey, you don't marry someone in this country anymore, you marry their debt.

01:27:12.000 And you can't even have conversations anymore about being serious with someone if you're not going through how much debt they have.

01:27:18.000 And that is so sad and debasing and dehumanizing to us.

01:27:22.000 So that cuts against it.

01:27:23.000 And then home ownership.

01:27:24.000 I mean, you just saw the Fed today, Jerome Powell, saying that rates were going to stay the highest ever.

01:27:29.000 So good luck if you're in your 20s or 30s and you actually want to own something.

01:27:33.000 So we've moved away from the meaning of companionship, because we've made that harder.

01:27:38.000 We've moved away from the meaning of home ownership, because when you own stuff, you're

01:27:44.000 better to it.

01:27:45.000 And if you don't believe me, think about the way you acted last time you were in a hotel

01:27:48.000 room versus your own place.

01:27:51.000 And so I think that the policies that will encourage that.

01:27:56.000 that will be policies that reduce this deficit.

01:27:59.000 Again, as we're talking, we're accumulating this debt, deficit, making money more expensive,

01:28:03.000 and that makes it harder for people to live their dreams and achieve that meaning.

01:28:06.000 Now you're talking about something that's extremely important to me, mandatory spending.

01:28:11.000 Everyone knows that Medicare, Medicaid, are the major drivers of our debt,

01:28:17.000 that we spend more money servicing the debt than we spend on our entire military.

01:28:21.000 Every single year, we're spending more, and we're only gonna spend more.

01:28:24.000 There is no plan at all?

01:28:28.000 What?

01:28:29.000 No plan?

01:28:30.000 And how come no one can come up with any type of plan that can even broach... I understand that it's radioactive, But everyone also knows that the dollar is going to be blown up.

01:28:44.000 You're going to destroy the value of the dollar if people don't want to continue to buy our debt.

01:28:49.000 So what do we do to fix it?

01:28:51.000 How do we fix the unfunded liabilities and at the same time not toss grandma and grandpa into the ocean?

01:28:59.000 I think every journey starts with a single step.

01:29:03.000 And on mandatory spending, for me, you start with the Medicaid program.

01:29:07.000 I would freeze Medicaid and block-grant it to the states and say, this is what you got.

01:29:12.000 Go innovate.

01:29:13.000 Go do your thing.

01:29:14.000 And there'll be some states that'll totally blow it, and their poor population will probably be worse off. 0.73

01:29:19.000 And there'll be some states that'll come up with the way to deploy 5,000 AI doctors to their poorest people or they'll find some way to get primary care to

01:29:29.000 people faster and easier so that they're not in higher expensive acute care and then

01:29:34.000 the goal under the federal system we have is that the best practices will

01:29:37.000 emerge and be copied and that's how you do it as opposed to the system now that we

01:29:42.000 have built around Medicaid where if you're a state you get more money the

01:29:46.000 more you spend. When I was a state lawmaker in Florida for every dollar we spent on

01:29:49.000 Medicaid we drew down a buck 48. Why would you want to spend less? You want to

01:29:54.000 spend more because that enhances your drawdown.

01:29:56.000 So what is the maximum we can spend on this population?

01:29:58.000 And that creates that sense of dependency that makes people, I think, less productive otherwise.

01:30:06.000 So you start by block granting Medicaid.

01:30:08.000 I think that creates momentum for other mandatory spending reforms.

01:30:11.000 You know, I think the way to fix the economy, one way to do it is to focus on GDP rather than the money itself, the gross domestic product.

01:30:17.000 What are we producing here domestically?

01:30:19.000 And if we start with hydrogen and we start retrofitting our economy to a hydrogen-carbon fuel system, like a hybrid system, The hydrogen can be run through the methane ports that we already have open, according to Jim Tuer at Rice University.

01:30:33.000 You can produce this stuff from carbon trash by hitting it with 7,000-degree electricity, called flash-joule heating.

01:30:38.000 You get hydrogen fuel and you get graphene byproduct.

01:30:41.000 So it's profitable to create hydrogen.

01:30:43.000 The key is you've got to convince the carbon industry that we're going to...

01:30:48.000 Increase your profits.

01:30:49.000 We're not going to lessen your money because we're going to start using hydrogen fuel.

01:30:53.000 We're actually going to turn your carbon into graphene and we're going to keep pumping that oil.

01:30:56.000 We're going to keep drilling for that coal.

01:30:59.000 And that then will have massive production capacity.

01:31:02.000 And then the dollar is just automatically worth 10 times more or whatever.

01:31:07.000 Because if you're producing more, more people are buying in the dollar.

01:31:10.000 For sure.

01:31:11.000 So I love it.

01:31:12.000 It's cheaper.

01:31:13.000 It's amazing.

01:31:14.000 It's such a great idea.

01:31:15.000 It aligns very, very well with what I view as the more MAGA-aligned view of the United States.

01:31:19.000 Unfortunately for you, the deep state, bureaucratic state establishment military industrial complex says, gee, Ian, that's a whole lot of work.

01:31:27.000 How about we make a bunch of guns and go brown people in foreign countries so that they're forced to use our dollar? 1.00

01:31:32.000 Yeah, they're going to keep doing that.

01:31:33.000 It's not about convincing the carbon industry to adopt new metrics or new systems. 0.63

01:31:37.000 It's about shutting down the cabal of psychotic warmongers. 0.99

01:31:41.000 Or repurposing their focus into a drone destruction program where we're blowing up drones instead of people.

01:31:47.000 You can even paint the drones brown if you're obsessed with it.

01:31:49.000 That can affect the profits of the corporations, but it doesn't change the fact the likes of Hillary Clinton and her ilk and the Liz Cheney's are thinking if we put more of our young men and women in harm's way in foreign countries, they'll be forced to use the petrodollar.

01:32:04.000 They don't care about drone program profits or whatever.

01:32:08.000 They care about can we point a gun at a foreign country so they use the petrodollar. 0.99

01:32:13.000 Well, it's a carrot and a stick because you go drop, you know, The reason they give the dollar, everyone said, why are we giving 12 million in gender studies to Pakistan?

01:32:22.000 that's going to occur in the dollar.

01:32:23.000 Right. So that's...

01:32:24.000 Yep. The reason they give the dollar, everyone said, why are

01:32:27.000 we giving 12 million in gender studies to Pakistan? So that they spend the dollars. They want more of them because they 1.00

01:32:33.000 They have an incentive to value it because they have value in it.

01:32:37.000 You're right that the OPEC or this dollar, where they're forcing people to use the U.S.

01:32:42.000 dollar, that's a problem.

01:32:43.000 But what's going to happen is some other country is going to start pumping out hydrogen with this flash jewel technology before the United States.

01:32:49.000 And then the entire world is going to have to pivot and we're going to be... Don't even disagree.

01:32:52.000 And that's why I think Trump is right.

01:32:54.000 If you look at the direction the MAGA politics, the populist politics are going, it's secure our borders, bring jobs back, get the Americans back to work, better trade agreements so that they're not offshoring our jobs.

01:33:05.000 And stop being weird.

01:33:06.000 And stop being weird, for sure.

01:33:08.000 But Trans-Pacific Partnership, you're out the window. 0.91

01:33:10.000 Then you look at the Clinton, Biden, Obama, deep state garbage, the Cheneys, and it's, we don't want to do anything for the American people. 0.64

01:33:18.000 We don't have to. 0.99

01:33:19.000 We're going to make guns and we're going to bomb people. 0.89

01:33:21.000 And then they have no choice but to use our stuff.

01:33:23.000 And sooner or later, you're correct, there will be a shift.

01:33:26.000 Russia just shuts down euro and dollars on their market.

01:33:28.000 China's dumping dollars.

01:33:30.000 They've been dumping bonds.

01:33:32.000 They're going to adopt Bitcoin and gold.

01:33:33.000 And then one day we're going to wake up and be like, why is the dollar worthless?

01:33:37.000 You pumped out massive amounts of it.

01:33:39.000 The war machine was faltering and failing.

01:33:41.000 And you did nothing at home to build up GDP.

01:33:45.000 So that's why I like when Trump, he got three billion reinvested in Michigan for auto manufacturing.

01:33:50.000 Think about how crazy, that was amazing.

01:33:51.000 And then as soon as Biden comes in, right back to Mexico.

01:33:54.000 One way to enhance our GDP is when all the Taiwanese move here because China makes a move on Taiwan. 0.98

01:34:00.000 Everyone's like, oh no, what will we do when China takes Taiwan?

01:34:04.000 We won't have a blender that speaks five languages anymore. 0.98

01:34:07.000 And I'm thinking like, well, where the fuck do you think these Taiwanese are going to go? 1.00

01:34:10.000 They're not going to stick around. 0.99

01:34:12.000 They're coming here.

01:34:13.000 You know, so that probably bodes well for us.

01:34:15.000 We got a little learning to do.

01:34:16.000 No, no, but the Biden administration would turn them away because they're that kind of smart administration.

01:34:21.000 I don't know if that's a fair critique of Biden.

01:34:24.000 There's a company.

01:34:25.000 I don't care if it's fair. 0.97

01:34:26.000 Screw him.

01:34:27.000 There's like a private company that's working on this flash fuel production technology for the carbon and the hydrogen.

01:34:33.000 But what's the good, best way to work with the government?

01:34:36.000 for a large private graphene corporation to kind of subsidize- Look, man, I knew I did not learn enough about graphene for this episode, but- You've been here before!

01:34:46.000 You've had time to prep!

01:34:47.000 I know!

01:34:47.000 It's on me!

01:34:48.000 I had a few other- I was trying to keep Steve Bannon out of jail today.

01:34:51.000 I'm hoping to talk about that.

01:34:53.000 Maybe that's our 10 o'clock hour subject.

01:34:56.000 But if you look at how those things have been scaled with technology principally throughout our nation's history, it's through the DOD.

01:35:02.000 It's through the military.

01:35:04.000 For most of our lives, like in Silicon Valley, the most important stakeholder, the most important investor has been the Department of Defense.

01:35:13.000 And now we're in a really different incentive structure where our brightest minds are not working on Breakthrough technology our best minds are working on how to keep you on a video view for 0.8 seconds longer And you know what's the what's the way to get more likes on a meme?

01:35:31.000 Not how to get lasers and munitions like if we had DOD Working with graphing corporations to like set up facilities all over the country and be like look We've got them in your district.

01:35:40.000 We want to put one in every state We want to put one in like three of them in every state Ian's already understanding congressional politics.

01:35:47.000 You're going to want to start with the state of the appropriations chairman, the speaker, the key authorizers for armed services.

01:35:54.000 That's really where you're going to want to sprinkle this imaginary project you're on.

01:35:58.000 We've got to go to Super Chats.

01:36:01.000 But I'll just do one quick question.

01:36:02.000 Did you see the Harvard—the news report on the Harvard study about aliens on Earth?

01:36:07.000 I did not, and I try to keep up with that information.

01:36:10.000 A Harvard—they call it a study—suggested that UAPs may actually be aliens that are on the far side of the moon.

01:36:18.000 I am not kidding.

01:36:19.000 This is what—the report came out of Harvard.

01:36:21.000 They said they could be humans from the future.

01:36:23.000 An advanced civilization of humans that we've long lost connection with.

01:36:27.000 They could be an advanced species of apes that live underground, or they could- I'm not kidding. 0.66

01:36:31.000 They could be elves, fairies, or gnomes.

01:36:34.000 I'm 100% serious.

01:36:35.000 This is a- Well then one of them definitely has to be Bill Kristol.

01:36:38.000 A gnome?

01:36:39.000 Doesn't he look sort of like an elf, fairy, gnome?

01:36:42.000 Dwarf.

01:36:43.000 Permutation.

01:36:44.000 His lips.

01:36:44.000 Like a mythical dwarf.

01:36:45.000 I don't know if the other one is offensive or whatever.

01:36:47.000 If it's option three, it's definitely Gilchrist.

01:36:49.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?

01:36:52.000 One like equals one FJB! 0.97

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01:37:10.000 Howdy, Clint.

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01:37:13.000 All right.

01:37:13.000 Matthew Hammond says, can populist Republicans create a contract like in 1994 that says they will eliminate the D.C.

01:37:19.000 Circuit Court, pass Massey's Prime Act, pass Congress, can only invest in index fund and duplicate functions in federal agencies?

01:37:29.000 Who would believe us if we did?

01:37:30.000 Yeah.

01:37:31.000 Right?

01:37:31.000 I mean, like, every time I turn around, someone's gotten some new lame, like, poll-tested, focused, grouped, like, contract.

01:37:37.000 How about just, like, do... I would like us to just do stuff.

01:37:40.000 And trust is built by keeping promises.

01:37:44.000 And we have broken a lot of them, frankly, as a House Republican conference and around the boldness and the vigor with which we should have pursued the Biden administration.

01:37:53.000 So, I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm less of a contract guy than just an action guy.

01:37:59.000 Do you think that the time to pursue the Biden administration is kind of running out?

01:38:03.000 I mean, he's not polling particularly well.

01:38:05.000 What are you guys going to get done before the end of the year?

01:38:08.000 How do you take seriously any effort to pursue these people while we fully fund them?

01:38:14.000 Kevin McCarthy's original sin was underwriting the debt for the Biden administration, and subsequent leadership has advanced the spending priorities of these people.

01:38:24.000 It's like, how could a parent ever have discipline over a child if you just keep giving them more and more allowance no matter what they do?

01:38:33.000 That's where we are.

01:38:35.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

01:38:38.000 What do we have?

01:38:39.000 The last campaign says, Howdy, did you hear about the new Texas Stock Exchange?

01:38:43.000 Is this a sign that Texas is ratcheting towards independence?

01:38:47.000 Have you heard about this?

01:38:47.000 They want to compete with a non-woke stock exchange, so Texas is going to launch their own.

01:38:51.000 That's awesome.

01:38:53.000 I'm guessing it's going to be very oil heavy.

01:38:54.000 I'd imagine.

01:38:56.000 Jonathan Timmon says, Tim, just wanted to say the Castbrew support was amazing.

01:39:00.000 Appalachian Nights now on sale at Okie Dokie Bakery in Oklahoma City.

01:39:05.000 I also wish we had a Matt Gaetz repping Oklahoma.

01:39:09.000 Is this that guy whose wife owns a bakery?

01:39:11.000 Because I think that's adorable.

01:39:13.000 Maybe.

01:39:14.000 But Okie Dokie Bakery is selling Cast Brew coffee.

01:39:16.000 So go to castbrew.com and pick up Ian's Graphene Dream.

01:39:19.000 Yeah, let me know if you sell any of that Graphene Dream.

01:39:21.000 It's a new coffee blend.

01:39:21.000 Low acidity.

01:39:23.000 Ian's got his own coffee.

01:39:24.000 Graphene Dream.

01:39:26.000 Get it now.

01:39:26.000 You put it in coffee?

01:39:27.000 Oh no, we never did.

01:39:28.000 Not graphene.

01:39:29.000 I think that's uh... That's just a name.

01:39:32.000 Try to convince me that I know he's put something in there.

01:39:34.000 I would advise against eating graphene.

01:39:36.000 I'm not a doctor though.

01:39:38.000 Pretty sure doctors are advised not to eat.

01:39:39.000 Yeah, like don't eat steel.

01:39:40.000 Carbon.

01:39:41.000 Use it for building.

01:39:41.000 Yeah.

01:39:44.000 Well, thanks for coming to Florida and being my boss, truly.

01:39:56.000 That is like the one thing I have, is that the people in my district are my boss.

01:39:59.000 I know that.

01:40:00.000 I know they're the only people I work for.

01:40:02.000 But we can't have every Republican move out of the Midwest.

01:40:04.000 We need those electoral votes, too.

01:40:06.000 I worry sometimes, every time I meet someone that's like, just move down to your district from Michigan.

01:40:11.000 I'm like, no, one fewer vote in Michigan.

01:40:14.000 Well, here's one.

01:40:15.000 Greg Dubia says, Tim, I'm blackpilled after the North Dakota primary election.

01:40:18.000 North Dakota had a chance to pick Dr. Rick Becker, our version of Gates.

01:40:22.000 Instead, North Dakota picked a rhino.

01:40:24.000 I don't want to vote for the rhino or the Democrat.

01:40:26.000 Thoughts on write-and-vote?

01:40:29.000 I had endorsed Becker.

01:40:30.000 I thought he was the preferred candidate.

01:40:33.000 Don't know much about North Dakota politics, just thought Dr. Becker was someone who would fight for people's liberty and it's a shrinking group that will, you know, I would say vote still because the hope has to be at this point that if you get Trump in there, courage will be sufficiently contagious and that people who are otherwise spineless will grow a backbone and actually engage.

01:40:52.000 All right.

01:40:53.000 Zimemaru says, Matt, do you know my Florida Congressman Vern Buchanan, District 16?

01:40:58.000 If you do, any thoughts on him?

01:41:00.000 I know Vern.

01:41:01.000 He's the dean of our delegation.

01:41:02.000 Been there a long time. 0.86

01:41:03.000 McCarthy screwed him.

01:41:04.000 He was actually in line to be the Ways and Means chairman, but McCarthy picked an inferior choice, a guy named Jason Smith from Missouri.

01:41:11.000 And so, yeah, I like Vern.

01:41:12.000 Good guy.

01:41:12.000 He's a car dealer.

01:41:14.000 Been a pretty successful guy.

01:41:18.000 Alright.

01:41:18.000 Otaku Magnet says, Matt, are the politicians you work with that are pushing war so hard oblivious to the current anger citizens have towards their warmongering?

01:41:27.000 Do they think everyone will go along like sheep when they start drafting our kids to die for them?

01:41:32.000 I think they're all stuck in a time warp where they think that anyone who wants to impose foreign policy realism is Neville Chamberlain, and anyone who wants to start three wars before lunchtime tomorrow is Winston Churchill.

01:41:46.000 And they sincerely believe that.

01:41:49.000 The war pimps are not just on the take.

01:41:53.000 They have bathed in a self-righteousness.

01:41:57.000 there's like a moral self-preening with them, with the neocons in both parties, actually. And what's

01:42:02.000 really crazy is that the Democrat Party has become the pro-war party. When there are these questions

01:42:07.000 about war powers and war and peace, there is no more anti-war Democrats. Even the people like

01:42:15.000 Ro Khanna, Ilhan Omar, who I used to work with on matters like war powers, they—you

01:42:23.000 Ukraine has radicalized the Democratic Party to be the pro-war party.

01:42:29.000 You're saying like war realists like Neville Chamberlain, because he's the guy known for appeasing Hitler when Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia.

01:42:38.000 Neville Chamberlain was the He thought at the time, I'm appeasing Hitler, there's going to be no war in Europe.

01:42:49.000 And so they think now that if we give seed land to the Russians that they'll just keep going. 0.99

01:42:55.000 Right.

01:42:55.000 Somehow they think that Putin in the Donbas and in Crimea is the same thing as Hitler in Poland.

01:43:03.000 Which is just insane to me.

01:43:06.000 No, the Germans have been building up a war machine in preparation for that invasion for like a decade before the invasion, or like eight years or something.

01:43:13.000 Under the guise of- It was totally different ambitions.

01:43:15.000 There were different goals.

01:43:17.000 Yeah.

01:43:17.000 All right, Jacob Bolley says, Tim, crew, and Rep Gates, I'm just so tired of these lackluster Republicans.

01:43:23.000 They are spineless and won't use their majority.

01:43:25.000 I'm done.

01:43:25.000 Either Congress does its job or I run for governor of Wisconsin and pull our state out of the union.

01:43:30.000 No more jokes.

01:43:33.000 You know, but what really bothers me is where's a single state to file criminal charges against any of these individuals the way they're going after Trump?

01:43:41.000 Is that what we want, Tim?

01:43:42.000 I mean, there's an element of the Trump stuff that creates such a sadness in me.

01:43:47.000 I'm 42 years old.

01:43:48.000 I've given most of my life to the law.

01:43:49.000 I went to law school.

01:43:51.000 I was a lawyer.

01:43:52.000 I've been a state lawmaker, a federal lawmaker.

01:43:54.000 And to see the law used this way, it doesn't make me want to abuse it.

01:43:59.000 Who said abuse it?

01:44:00.000 Yeah.

01:44:03.000 I don't want the law to be a tool of retribution.

01:44:05.000 I don't.

01:44:06.000 And I think that it sucks that they've done this and they've crossed the Rubicon.

01:44:10.000 I don't think... I'm not like cheerleading some situation where we can go be like, oh sweet, we can do a bunch of extrajudicial punishment to people.

01:44:18.000 What about judicial accountability?

01:44:21.000 We know that what Bragg is doing is... there's a criminal conspiracy, a seditious conspiracy.

01:44:27.000 We have Bragg in the House Judiciary Committee the day after sentencing.

01:44:31.000 What would you ask him?

01:44:33.000 I mean, the most obvious one is, and it's tough because I know how they weasel their answers around, like when you were questioning the DEI guy, you're like, oh, and they give you this roundabout answer.

01:44:44.000 First thing we need to know is, has there been any communication between you and anyone in the DOJ?

01:44:51.000 Yes or no?

01:44:52.000 Anyone on your team and anyone on their team.

01:44:54.000 Right.

01:44:54.000 Are you aware of any decision that was influenced, informed, in any way?

01:44:58.000 But they're going to try and trick you.

01:45:00.000 So it's, you know, my approach would always just be, have you had any communications with any, have you or anyone you are working with been in communication with the Department of Justice?

01:45:09.000 Yes or no.

01:45:10.000 And then they're going to play their game where they're like... Well, Congressman Poole, there are a lot of communications that happen in the world.

01:45:16.000 Communications that happen on the phone, over email, there's some communications that are in person.

01:45:19.000 So that's a yes.

01:45:20.000 Thank you.

01:45:20.000 Appreciate it.

01:45:20.000 There's even a faptic coupling.

01:45:22.000 That's a yes.

01:45:23.000 There you go.

01:45:24.000 Thank you.

01:45:24.000 I appreciate it.

01:45:24.000 That's a yes.

01:45:25.000 We'll put that down.

01:45:25.000 What if they say not to my recollection?

01:45:28.000 And these are the games they play.

01:45:30.000 This is why I'm not convinced that these, like... And they give me five minutes.

01:45:34.000 Doesn't that seem like an insufficient amount of time?

01:45:36.000 But this is why I'm saying we need a red state AG or whatever just to be like, hey, how about this?

01:45:41.000 Hillary Clinton destroyed public records.

01:45:43.000 She also has a campaign running in our state. 0.58

01:45:45.000 Is there an overlap between the people in her organization who committed these crimes that we know about and anything her campaign had done?

01:45:52.000 And then we actually hold them accountable for the things they've done.

01:45:55.000 Not extrajudicially, not retribution, quite literally, okay, we're not playing games anymore.

01:46:01.000 We know that there are criminal actions taking place, we're going to start charging people for them.

01:46:06.000 And that has to be done not to settle a score, but to set a deterrent.

01:46:13.000 I've become the biggest cheerleader of Bukele.

01:46:16.000 He went in with his cabinet at the very beginning and said, I'd like to start the meeting by informing everyone here that the Attorney General will be investigating everyone for their financial situation, including me.

01:46:26.000 And lo and behold, one of their ministers was a rat in the woodpile and had some bad drug money and got found out.

01:46:33.000 And that's the kind of thing that wasn't done to punish that guy.

01:46:38.000 But to set a new standard for a country that wanted to pull itself out of the mire and into a respectable place.

01:46:45.000 And we kind of almost got to do the same.

01:46:46.000 As we've descended into third world chaos, we almost need to look to some of the things that countries have done to right the ship. 0.93

01:46:54.000 To your super chat that's going to run for governor, the future of Governor of Wisconsin, this is a beef I have with some folks.

01:47:00.000 We need people to run for office, but we also need people to run for stuff they can win.

01:47:05.000 We need populists on the school board, on the county governments.

01:47:10.000 at the state legislatures and it's so frustrating when I see people who would be an ideal mayor

01:47:15.000 or they'd be really great cutting their teeth in the state legislature say, oh no, no, no,

01:47:20.000 what's most important to me is that I run for Congress.

01:47:22.000 Then they come in like fourth out of seven and are not as capable.

01:47:28.000 And there are more of us than there are of them, but not if we shoot ourselves in the

01:47:32.000 foot.

01:47:33.000 Right.

01:47:34.000 And all the funding that went to their campaign could have been more effective for a smaller

01:47:37.000 And I hate for it to come back to the money, because as I started out this discussion, I want to build a model that is less about the money and more about, are you inspiring an audience to take action that can get you the most votes?

01:47:49.000 But at the same time, you have to have resources for any project.

01:47:53.000 For this podcast, you guys have to have a budget and resources, and that creates an ecosystem where you can thrive economically.

01:48:01.000 Well, and you have to steward the money well, so especially if you're running for a state office, if you have people in your local community supporting you, wouldn't it be better if you invested the money wisely in a seat that you could win and really make a difference?

01:48:12.000 If you have bigger ambitions one day, that's great, but why don't we start somewhere that you can affect change?

01:48:16.000 I don't know, maybe this guy's worth a hundred million dollars, you know?

01:48:18.000 Oh, if he wants to run for governor, you know?

01:48:20.000 Well then his super chat should be more.

01:48:23.000 He should have more superchats if he's worth a hundred bucks.

01:48:25.000 It was a good superchat.

01:48:26.000 Here we go.

01:48:27.000 CT's has met.

01:48:28.000 Are you going to co-sponsor Ana Paulina Luna's legislation to ban artificial food, uh, food dues?

01:48:34.000 Dyes.

01:48:35.000 Okay, dyes.

01:48:36.000 And high fructose corn syrup.

01:48:38.000 Those things are poison.

01:48:39.000 I am.

01:48:39.000 Yeah.

01:48:40.000 I've talked to Ms.

01:48:40.000 Luna about it.

01:48:41.000 I've been a part of working on that bill with her and I'm going to co-sponsor it.

01:48:44.000 She's awesome. 0.83

01:48:45.000 One of the biggest investors.

01:48:46.000 Have you had her on?

01:48:47.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

01:48:49.000 In Congress.

01:48:49.000 When we were in Lauren Bobo's office, she came on.

01:48:51.000 Oh, right on.

01:48:51.000 People were cycling in.

01:48:52.000 R.F.K.

01:48:53.000 Jr., when we interviewed him, it was very obvious to me that there's actually only one thing he deeply cares about.

01:48:58.000 And I'm being a little hyperbolic.

01:49:00.000 He obviously cares about a lot of policy issues, but when you ask him about abortion, when you ask him about guns, he says, oh yeah, oh geez, oh yeah.

01:49:09.000 And then when it comes to toxins in the environment and our food, he lights up.

01:49:13.000 Electricity surges through him and he says, you've got the biphenyls, you've got the BPEs, plastics, you've got pesticides, he knows all about it, he's pissed about it, and he's right about it.

01:49:23.000 So, I've been radicalized by Luke Rutkowski, who says there is a biological war being waged against each of us, and you become susceptible to that if you allow it, and you have to take affirmative steps to become resilient to that.

01:49:36.000 Dude, I just did an intestinal cleanse for that.

01:49:38.000 Okay, that's great.

01:49:39.000 I'll tell you all about it.

01:49:41.000 So we actually, we do have plastic water bottles.

01:49:43.000 That's in the special hour.

01:49:44.000 Ian's intestinal cleanse.

01:49:46.000 No, no.

01:49:47.000 It doesn't even have to be in the special hour.

01:49:48.000 We could leave that outside.

01:49:49.000 We don't have to.

01:49:50.000 We're not even talking about it.

01:49:51.000 All this stuff about loneliness.

01:49:52.000 I was in the hospital last week and we're not even going to talk about that either.

01:49:54.000 What are we doing, Bannon?

01:49:55.000 Are we going to keep doing Super Chats?

01:49:56.000 Because I have to give you this Bannon update.

01:49:58.000 Bannon, what's going on?

01:49:58.000 What should we do to attend?

01:49:59.000 Bannon, right now.

01:50:00.000 Okay, I believe the only way Steve Bannon does not go to jail is if there is a vote at an entity called the BLAG, the Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group.

01:50:10.000 It is made up of the Speaker of the House, the Majority Leader, the Majority Whip, the Minority Leader, and the Minority Whip.

01:50:16.000 So the Republicans hold a 3-2 in this.

01:50:18.000 Bannon is going to petition for an en banc review of this determination to revoke his bail.

01:50:25.000 When he does, I believe the BLAG should and will take a 3-2 vote for the House to seek leave to file an amicus brief with the en banc court that the January 6th committee was illegitimate.

01:50:40.000 It was illegitimately formed, it was a runaway committee, it did not have a proper minority member, and whether it's Peter Navarro or Steve Bannon, nobody Nobody should be sitting in a jail cell because they would not comply with the absurd musings of a committee unlike any before in our nation's history.

01:50:59.000 Talk me through that again.

01:50:59.000 So he would go to this committee, this five-person committee where there's three people.

01:51:05.000 And if they vote in favor, then they would create a committee?

01:51:08.000 What they would do is they would go to the court and say, we want to tell the court that it is now the official view of the House of Representatives that the January 6th committee was illegitimate.

01:51:17.000 And then Bannon's lawyers could ask the court to take judicial notice of that vote by the blag, which would then give them a basis to allow his bail to stay in effect.

01:51:26.000 And Republicans can do this with the majority?

01:51:28.000 The majority.

01:51:29.000 The Republicans can do this without even taking a floor vote.

01:51:33.000 Mike Johnson, Steve Scalise, and Tom Emmer can do it, and it is my belief that they are working toward that end as we speak.

01:51:41.000 Oh, wonderful.

01:51:42.000 That's good news.

01:51:42.000 What about Navarro?

01:51:45.000 Huh?

01:51:45.000 He deserves the same thing.

01:51:47.000 Yeah, he deserved it yesterday.

01:51:48.000 He shouldn't even be locked up.

01:51:49.000 Should not.

01:51:50.000 What's the justification that the court was bunk?

01:51:53.000 If these people were to say, vote 3-2, what would be their justification?

01:51:56.000 Oh, sure, yeah.

01:51:57.000 The legal argument, I mean, if you look at the construction of any committee in Congress, it is informed by the majority party and the minority party providing their members.

01:52:07.000 And then the minority, pursuant to the legislation that created the January 6th committee, requires a ranking member.

01:52:14.000 Well, instead of that, Nancy Pelosi kicked off Jim Jordan, kicked off Jim Banks, so we took all of our minority members off and said this is an illegitimate committee.

01:52:23.000 Nancy Pelosi then put Liz Cheney on. 1.00

01:52:25.000 Didn't make her the ranking minority member.

01:52:27.000 They put Kinzinger on, too.

01:52:29.000 They made her the vice chair. 0.97

01:52:31.000 So this thing was not acting in accordance to the House resolution that had established it.

01:52:38.000 And so its subpoenas were subject to this legal gray area that it's not a crime to say you want a court to resolve that question.

01:52:48.000 All right.

01:52:48.000 Cameron Keir says the Democrat convention in Chicago will be 1968 all over again.

01:52:53.000 I agree.

01:52:54.000 Wait, you think so?

01:52:55.000 Oh yeah.

01:52:55.000 We're not going.

01:52:56.000 We'll be at the RNC.

01:52:58.000 And it's tough.

01:53:00.000 It's going to cost us money.

01:53:01.000 We're going to be losing money on it.

01:53:02.000 But it's more important.

01:53:06.000 But not the DNC.

01:53:07.000 I don't think there's going to be any drama at the DNC.

01:53:10.000 I think they're riding with Biden.

01:53:12.000 And you think the protesters will think that's cool?

01:53:15.000 Do you remember the 2016 DNC and RNC?

01:53:18.000 Yeah.

01:53:19.000 I thought that we were going to see, you know, before the RNC, I'm like, this is going to be a big protest, the Republicans.

01:53:25.000 Nope, nothing.

01:53:26.000 Some marching.

01:53:27.000 At the DNC, a thousand plus people were ripping the barricades down, trying to hop over them and storm into the DNC.

01:53:33.000 The leftists were livid over Bernie Sanders.

01:53:36.000 Oh, so you're saying the Bernie bros were more agitated than the Jeb pinstripe crowd?

01:53:41.000 Yeah, at the RNC, it was kind of just like, oh, Republicans, they're doing their thing.

01:53:45.000 And I'm like, but we have Trump.

01:53:47.000 And then at the DNC, it was bedlam.

01:53:51.000 Wild.

01:53:52.000 The left is trying to take over the Democratic Party.

01:53:55.000 The way you're describing it, it makes me want to watch you cover the DNC so much more than it makes me want to watch you cover the RNC, just to be honest.

01:54:01.000 No, no, no, don't get me wrong.

01:54:02.000 Ilad Aliyev was probably going to be there on the ground, but I have grown quite fond of living.

01:54:07.000 So we won't be going to Chicago.

01:54:09.000 I don't think we've gone soft, bro.

01:54:10.000 During the Vice days, you would have been there.

01:54:12.000 You would have been on the ground, getting us the skinny... Well, to be fair, during the Vice days, nobody knew who I was.

01:54:17.000 So when I'm on the ground, I can mind my own business.

01:54:19.000 A few years after that, I show up and they're chasing me.

01:54:22.000 They're running up to me, they're screaming in my face, and they're trying to... What's that like, Tim?

01:54:26.000 It's literally impossible to actually cover an event.

01:54:28.000 Because if they're coming up to you and just... You've just described my afternooner to Ruby Tuesdays.

01:54:34.000 Nice.

01:54:35.000 You just ask people their name when you meet them?

01:54:38.000 No, people are always very kind.

01:54:39.000 I get a detractor here and there.

01:54:40.000 I love making eye contact with people.

01:54:42.000 When you're out in public, it's mostly, I would assume 99% of the people are fans.

01:54:47.000 Yes.

01:54:48.000 Well, I'd say it splits about 90-10, truly.

01:54:50.000 Really?

01:54:51.000 Yeah.

01:54:52.000 The worst I ever get- I mean, I know I'm not for everyone, but like, the people who hate us, they do sort of- part of the reason they hate us is they think we might be dangerous.

01:55:01.000 So sometimes you just get like a sneer.

01:55:04.000 Because I think they wouldn't approach you, right?

01:55:06.000 Probably the people who come up to you like you.

01:55:08.000 Well, and I'm super approachable.

01:55:08.000 I don't mind when people come up and express their displeasure.

01:55:11.000 I thank them for their feedback.

01:55:12.000 It's part of the job.

01:55:13.000 If you don't want to be yelled at, don't do this job.

01:55:15.000 Is it like Democrats who come to you?

01:55:19.000 I mean, you know, where I'm from, we've all heard of Democrats in the wild, but we've not really seen one.

01:55:24.000 It's sort of like the Florida Panther.

01:55:25.000 The closer you get to one, the more you become like one.

01:55:29.000 I'm in New York, and it's supposed to be Democrats everywhere.

01:55:35.000 Oh, I love your show, man.

01:55:36.000 It's really great stuff.

01:55:37.000 It's hard to adhere to this president right now.

01:55:40.000 I mean, he's failing.

01:55:42.000 I've had people come up to me and tell me, I would never vote for you, but I have newfound respect for you because I watch you on Timcast.

01:55:48.000 Timcast viewers who wouldn't vote for you?

01:55:51.000 Yeah.

01:55:52.000 Wow, that's surprising.

01:55:53.000 Well, there are people who watch this show who do not agree with you, who are not going to vote the way that you want them to vote, but it's just intellectually provoking for them to observe the discussions.

01:56:02.000 Well, a lot of libertarians, too.

01:56:03.000 With the DNC, I don't think it's going to be crazy this time, because I don't think the fervor is there, the Bernie people that were betrayed.

01:56:10.000 Like, who feels jilted by Joe Biden?

01:56:12.000 Yeah, no, nothing.

01:56:13.000 Maybe if they swap out Biden and put somebody in before, there'll be riots.

01:56:18.000 Oh yeah, imagine if they skipped over Kamal.

01:56:19.000 If Gavin Newsom rode in like a white knight, the K-Hive would go crazy. 0.99

01:56:25.000 That could be, that could make some noise.

01:56:26.000 I don't know, like, Kamala is kind of just a mannequin in the background, you know what I mean?

01:56:31.000 She's not really anything there for anybody.

01:56:35.000 Is anybody really excited?

01:56:35.000 Charlamagne Than God says she's the one with the main character energy.

01:56:38.000 Really?

01:56:39.000 Yeah, Biden doesn't have the main character energy, it's Kamala. 1.00

01:56:42.000 Well he definitely has no energy, that's true. 0.99

01:56:44.000 But- Just shit your pants energy. 0.97

01:56:46.000 Kamala has as energy as any ski energy. 0.99

01:56:49.000 Biden's gone.

01:56:53.000 Kamala Harris is a non-player character.

01:56:55.000 I feel like she's biding her time, like, very, like, standing there watching, acting like a native.

01:56:59.000 How are they ever going to skip her?

01:57:00.000 How is the part— They can't!

01:57:01.000 They set themselves up so they can't.

01:57:02.000 Right.

01:57:03.000 They also don't want her.

01:57:04.000 She doesn't poll well enough for them, which I find fascinating.

01:57:07.000 They have put themselves in an impossible position.

01:57:09.000 And for what?

01:57:10.000 What did they gain from any of this?

01:57:11.000 Who do you want to see debating her in the vice presidential debate? 1.00

01:57:15.000 Vivek.

01:57:16.000 I mean, I don't want Vivek to be vice president.

01:57:19.000 I would love to see him tested in Ohio first.

01:57:21.000 I am really interested in J.D.

01:57:23.000 Vance.

01:57:25.000 I tried to get Vivek to run for that Ohio Senate seat.

01:57:27.000 You did?

01:57:28.000 I said, Vivek, you've got such great talent.

01:57:30.000 You're not going to be president.

01:57:31.000 You should run for the Senate seat in Ohio.

01:57:32.000 He's very gracious about it.

01:57:33.000 I love Vivek.

01:57:34.000 He's cool.

01:57:35.000 He's really cool.

01:57:35.000 But he wouldn't so good in the Senate.

01:57:37.000 Imagine him on the floor of the Senate.

01:57:38.000 And in all of these meetings where he gets to question people, he would have been amazing.

01:57:41.000 I know.

01:57:42.000 Who do you want to see debate Kamal Harris?

01:57:44.000 I asked you.

01:57:44.000 Well, I asked you second.

01:57:47.000 I think that Rubio or Vance would smoke her in a debate. 1.00

01:57:52.000 And I've known Rubio for 20 years.

01:57:55.000 I think Rubio's going to be the VP.

01:57:58.000 So I think you'd be great.

01:58:00.000 I really do.

01:58:00.000 I think you'd be great.

01:58:01.000 I think you definitely want a senator.

01:58:04.000 Here's why.

01:58:05.000 If you really look at the way that these appointments have to go, This notion that the majority leader of the Senate dictates the calendar is a new construct.

01:58:13.000 We need a vice president that's going to be like John Adams and sit over there in the Senate and preside over the Senate and say, oh, guess what?

01:58:19.000 You're not going to confirm our nominee to CIA?

01:58:21.000 Well, I've just decided that we're out of session for six months and the administration will be making some recess appointments.

01:58:27.000 Like there's a way, there's a way with a vice president who knows the Senate.

01:58:32.000 To do that.

01:58:33.000 So you gotta find somebody who gets it enough to be able to execute, but who doesn't have such reverence for it that they're sitting around waiting for, like, you know, Mitch McConnell's replacement to be de-thawed.

01:58:45.000 I don't trust Rubio.

01:58:47.000 I view him more as an establishment player.

01:58:48.000 I would love to have him in here.

01:58:49.000 I don't know him.

01:58:50.000 If you know him, we should talk.

01:58:52.000 I've heard really good things about him.

01:58:53.000 That means a lot coming from you.

01:58:54.000 I don't agree with him on everything, by the way.

01:58:56.000 He talks the same.

01:58:57.000 The rumors that I've heard is that it's already a done deal for VP.

01:59:01.000 And I've stressed this to an absurd degree.

01:59:04.000 This is not coming from anyone in the administration.

01:59:06.000 It's coming from, like, Beltway Politicos.

01:59:08.000 Tim, I'm 100% certain this decision has not been made.

01:59:11.000 Alright?

01:59:11.000 100% certain.

01:59:13.000 and there's only one person that's going to make this decision and it's Donald Trump.

01:59:17.000 This is not so everyone who's like, oh well this person as the insider is going to make

01:59:20.000 the decision. Trump is making this decision. If it's Rubio and the Senate seat opens up

01:59:24.000 would you run for Senate? I don't know.

01:59:26.000 If I was going to go to an old folks home, the Villages sounds a lot better than the Senate. 1.00

01:59:30.000 By the way, I'll be in the Villages on the 18th of June.

01:59:33.000 Go to MattGates.com.

01:59:34.000 I just read that the average age in the Senate is like 64.

01:59:37.000 Wow.

01:59:38.000 Fascinating.

01:59:39.000 I'm not a fan of the Senate at all.

01:59:40.000 I think we've got to get rid of the 17th Amendment, I believe it is, right? 0.97

01:59:42.000 If we can't fix the People's House, what hope do we have at the House of Lords?

01:59:47.000 My thing has to work in the House or it's not going to work there.

01:59:50.000 How tight are they with the British?

01:59:52.000 Monarchy.

01:59:53.000 Who?

01:59:54.000 Our House of Lords.

01:59:56.000 Our Senators?

01:59:56.000 I don't know.

01:59:57.000 They don't ever give me the secret handshake.

01:59:59.000 I wonder how deep they are with the Empire.

02:00:01.000 Well, we didn't fly the British flag in Congress.

02:00:04.000 It always flew the Ukrainian flag, so that's probably more of my concern.

02:00:07.000 That's the current proxy war of the British Empire.

02:00:10.000 I feel like we're a late-stage Empire, like in Rome where the Praetorian Guard are in control now, where if the Emperor steps out of line, they kill him and put a new Emperor in.

02:00:18.000 But Charles was just so backseat, and Elizabeth was so backseat, they're like, Live and let live.

02:00:23.000 Yeah, I could turn Canada into Britain and just make it part of England if I wanted to, but I'm not gonna, because you'd kill me and then take control.

02:00:30.000 So I think the CIA is really, I don't know if it's the CIA, MI6, are kind of running the empire.

02:00:36.000 And we're like business cahoots with them as the United States.

02:00:39.000 And we will find out the answer to that question on the Members Only Call-In Show coming up in just about a minute.

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02:01:07.000 Yeah, go to MattGates.com.

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02:01:13.000 Oh, my pleasure.

02:01:14.000 Thank you for having me.

02:01:15.000 Good to see you again, dude.

02:01:16.000 Yeah, let's go deeper next time in about five minutes.

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02:01:39.000 You can pre-save now.

02:01:40.000 The link is in my YouTube page.

02:01:42.000 The song is called Let You Go.

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02:01:52.000 Thank you, Tim.

02:01:53.000 Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

02:01:55.000 Hannah Clare.

02:01:55.000 Matt, are you and Ginger gonna go to Phil's tour this summer?

02:01:58.000 Do you like Megadeth?

02:02:00.000 Are you a metal fan?

02:02:00.000 How could I miss Phil's tour?

02:02:02.000 Okay, put him down for some tickets.

02:02:03.000 Megadeth!

02:02:04.000 Are you into metal?

02:02:05.000 I can get you in.

02:02:06.000 Uh, no.

02:02:07.000 I'll listen to folk music, but I'd come to listen to you.

02:02:09.000 There's nothing wrong with folk music.

02:02:10.000 You gotta come play poker sometime at MGM.

02:02:14.000 I don't know if that'd go well.

02:02:15.000 Do you have a poker table over there?

02:02:16.000 We do, it's really nice.

02:02:17.000 We're setting up the show, so...

02:02:18.000 It's a summer of activities for you.

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02:02:31.000 Bye, Serge!

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