On today's show, we discuss the latest in the Biden/Bannon case, the Ukrainian impeding aid list, and more! Plus, a $25 extravaganza sponsored by MyPillows! Tim Casserole is a production of Gimlet Media.
00:00:22.000He's refusing to turn over audio of a conversation with Biden about his health and his prosecution.
00:00:29.000You see, the prosecutor is saying, you know, Biden's just a bumbling old fool and he can't remember things and they're never going to get him convicted.
00:00:35.000So for that reason, we just can't criminally charge him.
00:00:38.000But at the same time, Steve Bannon's going to go to prison for contempt of Congress.
00:00:41.000Eric Holder was never held responsible for being in contempt of Congress.
00:00:45.000So we're definitely seeing a double standard.
00:00:49.000That Ukrainian impeding aid list, some people call it an enemy's list, in which I am included, as well as Jack Posobiec and many Republican members of Congress, is under fire and may be getting defunded thanks to the efforts of members of Congress like Rep Jim Banks.
00:01:04.000He sent me a letter saying, I just want to let you know, you're on this enemy's list and I am...
00:01:10.000You know, I did a segment where I probably was angrier than I've ever been at this idea that they dare insult me because I'm supposed to be of the opinion they deserve my money.
00:01:23.000They write this article, they write this whole map of all these individuals and they say, these people are in the way of us stealing their money.
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00:02:26.000And I will admit, we have about 300 MyPillows, maybe like 200, because we did this event here at the Freedomistan, we call it, where we set up a gigantic MyPillow pit and everyone was jumping into it.
00:03:40.000I tell you, every rally I go to, everywhere in the country, there's at least one person who walks up and says, you should be on the Timcast more.
00:03:48.000So I think our long-form, unscripted conversations are epic.
00:04:03.000We are close to the cliff, and there's a few of us fighting to try to turn away from that ultimate ending.
00:04:09.000And I know there's a lot in this audience who are rooting for us, and so looking forward to chatting.
00:04:13.000You know, I've said it before, you are at least my favorite member of Congress.
00:04:17.000You say the same shit to Thomas Massey.
00:04:19.000When he comes on the show, I know because my wife was watching, and she's like, babe, I know this is going to be a real hard night for you.
00:04:30.000And I'm like, well, you know, I think Massey is my mom's favorite member of Congress.
00:04:34.000I don't know that I would have said that.
00:04:35.000Maybe I would have said he's one of our favorites, but I have a lot of disagreements with Massey.
00:04:39.000He's a good dude and we agree on a lot and I respect him fighting back, but there's a lot of things that I've argued and I've read stories about him.
00:04:46.000But the stuff you've worked on, I mean, especially, you know, people have complained about the McCarthy stuff after the fact because now we have Speaker Johnson.
00:05:03.000I'm glad to be here because I feel like you are kind of the needle into the veins of what the hell's happening in the United States and we can either extract data from you or we can give you data to put into the system.
00:05:13.000I'm really happy to get a hold of your expertise, man.
00:05:16.000I'm driving out here and I'm like, what is going to be the crazy Ian question that is not an actual question?
00:05:21.000That is just testing to see what an accommodating dope I'm willing to be.
00:06:07.000Investment vehicles are trying to leverage their power to try to get ESG, DEI, and how they will literally say, like, we're the investment board for one of the largest investment companies in the world, and we're going to vote against directors based on the color of their skin, based on their gender.
00:07:10.000We have the people who are involved in the state and local prosecutions going to meetings at the White House, communicating with officials at the DOJ, absorbing into their workforce senior officials from the DOJ.
00:07:23.000This is the big problem with Merrick Garland and with the Department of Justice.
00:07:29.000When we ask for those records, those calendar meetings, those emails that will really reveal to the public a new thing that people need to know, we send letters, we don't issue subpoenas that we're willing to enforce, and we just let that go.
00:07:46.000And then meanwhile, we get you leading the A Block on the Timcast with, we have held Merrick Garland contempt because he is holding from us something so rare.
00:07:58.000As is Joe Biden potentially being mentally and physically feeble.
00:08:02.000I'm like, we just watched this guy probably crap his pants at D-Day, okay?
00:08:06.000Like, nothing on the Merritt Garland video is going to be worse than we've already seen, but we choose that!
00:08:14.000for the unprecedented power of contempt and then we just we just sort of leave unaddressed the
00:08:20.000actual real issue. So yeah, I voted for the contempt. We have a right to the information.
00:08:24.000He's the president of the United States. There's an impeachment inquiry. He should have given it
00:08:27.000to us. But at the end of the day, I will not take any congratulations for House Republicans
00:08:33.000for this move because it is it is like the lowest of low energy action.
00:08:37.000And actually, I think it's rather misdirected.
00:08:38.000Do you want to live in a world where there's no limiting factor on the ability of any Congress in the future to go root around an investigative file that didn't result in a criminal prosecution?
00:08:52.000Nobody wants to, but do you think- Does Steve Bannon want to live in that world?
00:08:55.000I don't know that that's the best thing for separation of powers either.
00:09:00.000Why am I leading with this on the A Block?
00:09:02.000You're leading with it because you are so thirsty for anything that we have done that is of any meaning or that anybody is being held accountable for anything, right?
00:09:13.000It's like when the families go to SeaWorld, and what the sea lion does is not all that impressive, jumps up, does a flip.
00:09:20.000But like, after you've been there with your kids all day, and you've been sitting in that line, and you've paid the 80 bucks, whatever that sea lion does is going to be good, and you're going to applaud, and you're going to pay for the $12 hot dog.
00:09:34.000The 5% I'd say is, we lead with what you guys do.
00:09:38.000And so the story of the day is that you've held Merrick Garland in contempt, and then the gist of it is we complain about how the only thing that ever gets done is strongly worded letters.
00:10:06.000And there is evidence that they are involved in that.
00:10:10.000There are meetings that we know happened at the White House with Nathan Wade and Fannie Willis.
00:10:14.000We know there are personnel that literally left senior positions at DOJ to do the career downstream to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, right?
00:10:25.000And so we want the employment records, the references, the correspondence, and Merrick Garland tells us to fuck off, and we fully fund—oh, I'm sorry, we gave him a 7% cut on his budget.
00:10:35.000But then they hold back, like, video of Joe Biden stuttering, and we act like, God damn it, if we don't get this, we're going to use the awesome power of contempt.
00:10:45.000I want to mention real quick, because you mentioned the poop into the pants.
00:10:49.000So I, because I love ChatGPT, asked it if it was reasonable to assume that Joe Biden crapped his pants, and it was like, no, there is no evidence to suggest this.
00:10:58.000And then I said, there's more evidence that Joe Biden crapped his pants than there is that Donald Trump worked for Russia.
00:11:13.000I then asked GPT, if an 81-year-old man standing up during an event squats down, grimaces, stands up, squats a little bit, is it reasonable to assume he may be suffering fecal incontinence?
00:11:24.000And it goes, yes, that is reasonable to assume.
00:11:26.000And I said, and if it's Joe Biden, no, how dare you?
00:11:29.000Honestly, the same thing happened one time when I was at a party with Bill O'Reilly.
00:11:32.000I think he shit his pants and then had to shuffle off.
00:13:35.000There's a whole little cottage industry of like lawyers who used to be congressional staffers who take those letters and they they joust back and forth and like, All their kids are in the same soccer leagues together, and they're part of the same kind of social class of DC, and it's all meant to be professional wrestling.
00:13:51.000And the way you know that's the case is because we don't use the power of the purse.
00:14:04.000The core feature and function of Washington is to ensure that no one ever really looks at the money.
00:14:10.000And the way to ensure that happens is to make sure that everybody's voting on all of the money all at once at the most inconvenient time.
00:14:16.000So, the government runs out of money on September 30th.
00:14:19.000And what they'll do is they'll do a short, they'll say, oh, we're so close to getting those single subject spending bills Gates wants.
00:14:26.000And so they'll kick that thing to right up against everybody's Christmas and Hanukkah recess.
00:14:32.000And then they will jam us with one of these omnibus bills, where it's you take it all or lose it all.
00:14:37.000And they will have bought enough people off with earmarks and a special accommodation for you and a win for you to take home to your district, where we will continue this downward slide that I warned about at our open.
00:14:48.000What are these vertical integrated subpoenas you mentioned?
00:14:52.000So yeah, I remember we had a great episode.
00:14:53.000I still run it on the Gates Network, which people can find on my Rumble stream at Red Matt Gates.
00:14:58.000The episode we had with Steve Bannon in my congressional office, and I just returned from the January 6th committee's vault with all of their files.
00:15:25.000I mean, I looked in the Bernie Kerrick file and I could see where that guy bought a cup of coffee from McDonald's in New York City.
00:15:31.000And the only file that was totally empty was Steve Bannon's, which I believe was to ensure that they did not have evidence there in those records that they didn't want out for their own reasons, perhaps.
00:15:42.000And that was all a surprise to Bannon that we broke on the Timcast.
00:15:49.000You go after how they communicate, how they move, how they spend money.
00:15:52.000And then once you get a target, any person of significance in this country has all their electronic life on probably at least three or four devices or in places, you know, in clouds or with different servers.
00:16:04.000So they would subpoena, you know, both sides of an email, they would subpoena the email service provider, they would go to the assistant, they would go to the spouse that might have access to records or family members, and they got a full picture on people.
00:16:18.000And then it was to acquire the target and then to find some basis to do that person.
00:16:22.000If you're going to do vertically integrated subpoenas with from Eric Garland, it would be like you just find his bank records, his Uber transactions, I would start with what is the conduct that we know was a connective tissue between the Department of Justice and the state and local entities, right?
00:16:42.000We know there were calendared meetings that occurred at the White House.
00:16:45.000So let's get all records in and out of that meeting.
00:16:48.000Let's get the travel to and from there.
00:16:50.000Let's get all the correspondence from the people who attended those meetings in the 24 hours before and after.
00:16:55.000If they're not provided by the subjects themselves, you go to their assistants.
00:16:59.000If they're not provided by them, you go to their service providers, and eventually you find somebody who's going to give up the information, right?
00:17:04.000Who was the biggest witness in the January 6th matter?
00:17:10.000It was somebody's assistant, Cassidy Hutchinson, because she had records.
00:17:14.000She knew who had attended meetings, and then she was able to lash lies onto things that had occurred with the appearance of validity when, you know, later when that was probed, it was proven false.
00:17:28.000Claiming, but I guess it was a hearsay thing where she's like, I was told this thing happened, that Donald Trump lunged to try and grab the steering wheel.
00:17:35.000And it would imply that Trump has the ability to phase through solid matter, because there's a barrier in the veal.
00:17:44.000Are these people cognizant of their evil?
00:17:48.000Do they know that what they're doing is evil?
00:17:51.000I think that there is an intricate system in Washington that brainwashes people, that is well-resourced, that has human talent around it, and that creates kind of a nurturing ecosystem for people to come into that embrace when they feel as though it's the only place for them to turn.
00:18:11.000Cassidy, for example, wanted to go down and work after January 6th, was dying to go down to work in Palm Beach County.
00:18:17.000Asked me if any of my friends had places where she could stay while she got permanent housing, was eager to go work for Trump.
00:18:23.000And then, you know, when that employment situation didn't work out, I don't know if it was personality conflicts, some folks said that they didn't like her contacts with the media, but then all of a sudden she felt isolated and, you know, along comes a Liz Cheney And, I mean, say what you want about the Cheneys, and I've probably said it all, it's not a universe of amateurs.
00:18:46.000It's a group of people who've done this for a long time at a very high level.
00:18:49.000Do you think that the Justice Department is ultimately a savable institution, or is it sort of so deeply corrupted, there's so much interpersonality issues there, that it's not something that you could just turn over by getting a new AG?
00:19:06.000Personnel is policy there, and you've had a lot of the same people who rotate into the Justice Department, out to big tech, and to big business, and then back to the Justice Department when things change.
00:19:18.000Like, if you look at the people who've worked at DOJ and then go and end up working at big tech companies, it is the true revolving door even more than the White House.
00:19:28.000And that's why, actually, big tech never gets held accountable, because they want to create just enough virus Where they can then sell themselves and their buddies as the antidote.
00:19:36.000Meanwhile, the American people see their interface with the digital world change for the worse.
00:19:40.000So I think that personnel is key, but also devolving authority outside of Washington is key.
00:19:47.000We've talked about ways to make the U.S.
00:19:49.000attorneys who live in the communities, who have to show up at the local grocery store and worship at the local church, more empowered to make their decisions where everything is not run through this praxis up here.
00:20:00.000And also with the Justice Department, You know, I think that getting them outside of Washington,
00:20:29.000And he thinks, like, sending, you know, the FBI to Thule, Greenland, as I would, is improper.
00:20:36.000With these subpoenas you're talking about, these vertically integrated subpoenas, if they were issued widely, would it then... So I imagine none of them have been issued yet, but you want these to be issued by the House of Representatives?
00:21:12.000If we're shooting for the pin, if we're not laying up, how do you explain that?
00:21:18.000I kind of think that the establishment, the uniparty, whatever you want to call it, has been in consistent control of Democrats and Republicans for decades.
00:21:27.000And in 2016, probably a little bit before that, we started to see insurgency within both parties.
00:21:34.000More lefty populists, you have the right populists.
00:21:37.000For obvious reasons, I think, we saw tremendous success among right-wing populists in getting into the Republican Party, much to their dismay.
00:21:44.000And they're desperately trying to shake loose this MAGA, Trump, or populist faction.
00:21:51.000We're like long COVID, we don't go away.
00:21:53.000But you look at AOC, and she's supposed to represent the left populist.
00:23:05.000When we opposed McCarthy, we had way more who were just like, we know this guy's corrupt, we know he lies, we know the truth ain't in him, we're never before him.
00:23:14.000And then those people stopped coming to the meetings, and next thing you know, they got a real good committee spot.
00:23:31.000I thought they'd want to know what my foreign policy views were, what the GDP of my district was relative to the military.
00:23:37.000And they were just like, look, you owe $75,000 to the NRCC in the next 10 days.
00:23:41.000They want to know how many zeros you could put behind a couple numbers.
00:23:43.000And I mean, I showed up with 150 because I figured if they're for sale, like, I mean, you definitely don't want to like pay and not get one.
00:24:07.000They followed us for a year and they observed how there's like a scoring system and a ranking system and based on your committees and your assignments and whether you're a chairman or have some other goofy title, what you have to fork over to rent those positions.
00:24:21.000So you either use your influence by supporting people in the Congress, or you use your money and buy your way out?
00:24:27.000Well, it's actually you just serve as a broker.
00:24:29.000So imagine you're some poor schmuck from northeast Arkansas, and like, you know, you don't have a lot of money, and you show up there to orientation, and first they sit you down and they're like, so we're going to need a quarter million bucks from you in the next two years, and we need like a third of it in the next quarter.
00:24:45.000And you sit there and you're like, holy shit, how am I going to do that?
00:24:48.000Now, we know you're going to be on the Armed Services Committee.
00:24:50.000Here's the best steak you've ever had.
00:25:34.000I think that I have a similar view to what the country is that you do, which is part of why I get along in political conversations with you like this, that it's like the United States Constitution.
00:25:45.000But there's, like, this imperial power, and they're big bankers and stuff, and the king of, or the empire, the emperor of England, the emperor of Britain.
00:25:53.000I don't know, in Five Eyes, the spy club, they got the CIA is probably deeply entrenched.
00:25:58.000I don't like the liberal economic order, man.
00:25:59.000I don't like that America has military bases all over Earth, but what's the next best option?
00:26:03.000Let me jump to this story so that we can get into that conversation.
00:26:07.000Nice little warm-up amuse-bouche from Ian.
00:26:10.000How do we deconstruct the world economic order with a viable solution that is in no way chaotic at the outset?
00:26:45.000So basically what's happened is this NGO in Ukraine published this rollercoaster thing where they list a bunch of individuals, what is it like 300 and some odd individuals, that they say are impeding their access to funding.
00:26:59.000Basically what they're saying is you American citizen are in the way of me taking your money.
00:27:52.000They don't connect you to me over here?
00:27:55.000Like, we've had Tucker Carlson, Vivek Ramaswamy, we've had Marjorie Taylor Greene, we've had you, we've had Jim Jordan, we've had all of you on this show and how dare they?
00:28:07.000You should consider yourself very lucky that you made the list even though they're not fans of the show.
00:28:12.000So anyway, I know I am deeply offended by this list, but the breaking news now, according to D.C.
00:28:16.000Drano, the Ukrainian NGO that started an enemies list, which included U.S.
00:28:20.000congressmen and private American citizens, using Biden's State Department funding, has just been defunded thanks to the leadership of Congressman Jim Banks.
00:28:27.000So Ian was just bringing up this, like, international liberal economic order, and this is what I really see here.
00:28:35.000The war in Ukraine, I watched a video earlier, and it was In an international volunteer group fighting in Ukraine, what we're looking at right now is it's an extra governmental entity using the labor of the American people to fund non-citizens and foreign entities to fight a war for NATO.
00:28:58.000We are witnessing war that is extra-governmental at this point.
00:29:04.000The American people did not vote for this war.
00:29:06.000But we are paying for it whether we want to or not.
00:29:09.000And then you've got a video of a British guy, a Canadian guy, a New Zealand guy, and they are fighting, flying Ukrainian flags and killing Russians.
00:29:16.000And then they're mad at me for not wanting my money to go towards that.
00:29:20.000The United States has become a vassal of an international military cabal.
00:29:25.000And it's been for a long time, but now it's plainly visible in front of us.
00:29:28.000I'm hoping that what we're seeing with Trump, with you, Representative Gates, is that there's a fracture in the hull of their ship.
00:29:38.000I would suggest that the kryptonite to that That non-governmental, maybe even post-governmental warfare, right, to that liberal world order, it's strong nation-states.
00:29:50.000And that's why this very post-governmental regime is turned against people like Trump and Mele and Bukele in El Salvador, who's totally changed that country.
00:30:02.000And they fear the sense of pride, strong borders, and just realism that would deconstruct what they've done, I think, to be so damaging.
00:30:13.000But, like, to just break down for a moment where I've been on Ukraine, the amendment I filed that might have gotten me on this list was just that we should follow our own laws regarding the end-use monitoring of our own military equipment.
00:30:31.000These are laws we've always had, about just like when we send stuff that can shoot into a war zone, we like to keep track of where it goes.
00:30:38.000And when I ask under oath, I can't tell you what I hear in the classified briefings, but when I ask in the public hearings under oath, can you testify that we are fully compliant with the law?
00:30:48.000The people charged with enforcing and overseeing those laws cannot truthfully do so.
00:30:52.000Well, we know billions have already been stolen.
00:30:55.000We know that there are mayors who are green-lighting fake companies that had just formed to receive U.S.
00:31:01.000money, and then these individuals disappear.
00:31:03.000We know that Russian forces were able to successfully launch attacks because fortifications were never built, because Ukrainians are just stealing the money.
00:31:10.000And then they have the nerve to write this and say that we are in their way of continued stealing of our money, of your money.
00:31:17.000I just think any elected official on this list or anyone seeking office should use this as a point to say, look, look, I don't think we should send it.
00:31:23.000They're noticing that I did something.
00:31:24.000I said, no, we should not continue to ship money overseas when America has enough to deal with.
00:31:29.000I might tell my detractors, you might think I'm a shitbag, but do you really want to borrow money from China so that your children can go into more debt so that an NGO can call me a shitbag?
00:32:00.000We go another trillion dollars in debt every hundred days, and we are paying to retire Ukraine's debt.
00:32:07.000We are borrowing money from China at a higher interest rate.
00:32:11.000To retire lower interest rate debt by Ukraine.
00:32:13.000And I have to say, while I am a huge Jim Banks fan, and it is a coup for people in my movement that he seems to be on a glide path to the United States Senate, and he's done the right thing, we cannot declare victory on this one legislative maneuver for this reason.
00:32:27.000All we have passed is the House version of the National Defense Authorization Act.
00:32:34.000So if you don't have a companion measure there, this then becomes the subject of negotiation.
00:32:40.000And the people who are involved in these negotiations probably are grieved by this a little less than you and I are.
00:32:46.000And so the pressure has to be kept on to not fund this stuff Right now, we have run the first leg in the relay race, but getting the Senate to act, getting this to survive conference, is critical for that to be achieved.
00:33:31.000And I'm grateful that I live in a community that has enough success and affluence and enough people who think like I think where they pulled out their checkbooks and they doubled up.
00:33:42.000But not everyone can do that, and if you can't do that, then you're more susceptible to the lobbyists who then own you.
00:33:50.000Ian over here can write a check for $75,000 to the NRCC on behalf of Riley Moore and get him on a committee.
00:34:21.000Well, because the NRCC exists to elect Republican members.
00:34:25.000But it often is weaponized against the people who have a more populist perspective, because the NRCC runs on special interest money.
00:34:35.000I am of no value to the NRCC, because I don't raise money for them, I don't give money to them.
00:34:40.000I'm not particularly interested anymore in their perspective on what committees I should serve on, because I think that the people in our movement would think it would be a human rights violation if I got thrown off my committees.
00:34:54.000And so they would far prefer to have fewer people who think like I do and more people who are hamsters on the hamster wheel.
00:35:00.000Because the reason I brought up someone super chatted, does your show get enough money to start buying off politicians so they can do the right damn thing for once in their lifetime?
00:35:08.000And I'm like... Well, you cannot buy politicians.
00:35:17.000We go to a member of Congress and say, we're going to pay the NRCC what they are looking for to make sure you get the committees and do the right thing.
00:35:24.000Thomas Massey told the story about how someone thought he could do a real good job on the Ways and Means Committee, and the lobbying group said, this is what we're willing to pay for you to be on the committee, and we need you to share our perspective on these issues.
00:35:37.000And I think Thomas pretty much told him to fuck off.
00:36:05.000Well, typically, if you're not someone that's giving upwards of around a million bucks a year, you're not really considered for the Rules Committee.
00:36:13.000But our folks got on the Rules Committee because we said, Kevin, what would you prefer?
00:36:17.000This to be the slate of people on the Rules Committee, or for you not to be able to hang your portrait?
00:36:22.000He was like sort of a moth to the flame on the portrait deal, but now we got our folks on the Rules Committee, and that's not to say that they think like I think on every issue.
00:36:31.000I'm sure they don't, but I know they're not corrupt.
00:36:35.000They didn't get there because they bought it.
00:36:36.000They got there because we used leverage, and I think that is not a perfect system, but it's definitely the better one.
00:36:43.000When they come in and they pay to get someone on a committee, who does that money go to?
00:36:47.000Well, oftentimes the NRCC takes that money and they will use it at times to play in primaries to select the type of person that's likely to participate in this, you know, in this Amway scheme that they have.
00:37:01.000For people who don't know what the NRCC is?
00:37:02.000Yeah, the National Republican Congressional Committee.
00:37:06.000So it is the political wing of the House Republican Conference.
00:37:58.000Every year you need $60 to $100 million?
00:38:01.000And Kevin McCarthy, to his career, raised about a billion.
00:38:06.000And what I said to folks is, you know, what did that cost, right?
00:38:11.000When Kevin McCarthy walked into the speakership having raised nearly a billion dollars, not just with the NRCC, but also CLF, other aligned PACs and entities, all of that together, that's a billion dollars worth of IOUs.
00:38:23.000And for all of the criticism I take, I turned those IOUs into Confederate money.
00:39:19.000No, they went, nice try, it's called solicitation, you're under arrest for selling beer without a license.
00:39:24.000So, what we see here is, you don't need someone to write down, I owe you one favor in Congress, they just come to you and say, remember that 10 million we gave you?
00:39:34.000Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, well, you know what that means.
00:39:37.000So, if a conversation like that, if it was recorded, would it be illegal?
00:39:40.000Please, it's said daily in the halls of the Capitol, and here's how the parlance works most often.
00:39:48.000Oh, Congressman Poole, we'd really love to have your support on that amendment, or we'd really like you to sign this letter, and we'll see you at the fundraiser next week.
00:39:56.000It is that direct, it is that proximate, and it is that disgusting.
00:40:00.000And the fact that people are willing to do it underneath the murals of Jefferson and Adams, underneath the bust of Washington, it is debasing and unpatriotic.
00:40:44.000And I will not come to this conversation with the hubris that I know the answer.
00:40:50.000I believe you have to change the incentive structure.
00:40:52.000If you want to move the mouse, you have to move the cheese.
00:40:55.000And I believe that there is an incentive structure around doing the right thing if you are willing to be bold and relentless, and if you are willing to take the criticism.
00:41:06.000I am one of the top fundraisers in the House of Representatives, despite my unwillingness to play this game.
00:41:13.000And it's not that I have a whole lot of billionaires who are writing, you know, $6,600 checks to me.
00:41:18.000It's that I have 200,000 donors that go to MacAids.com and give me an average of like 80 bucks.
00:41:23.000And that I am able to have the resources necessary to win every election I've competed in under that model.
00:41:31.000And I've tried to show people that if you do that, the people will be there for you.
00:41:35.000And if we didn't do dumb stuff, it wouldn't cost us as much to win elections.
00:41:56.000But, you know, the establishment looks at that and says, we won.
00:42:00.000I look at a race like that and say, we are coming.
00:42:03.000If we can align some of these things and answer Phil's question with a bit more precision and depth than I have, then the energy is there for it.
00:42:12.000So what advice would you give to, you know, Riley Moore, who might be the new congressman from West Virginia coming in the fall?
00:42:18.000I mean, it sounds like it's a really challenging model if everything is sort of working against you.
00:43:12.000I fear that my kids and grandkids are going to read that I was on the board of directors of this country when we went off the cliff, when it all turned upside down, and when the hope for America was lost.
00:43:22.000And I know the people have the right values, but I see every day how disconnected our leaders are from that.
00:43:30.000And so, like, the question is Phil's question.
00:43:33.000Do you go every day and do you do you scrap and claw within that?
00:43:37.000And oftentimes the people who do that justify selling out for their own advancement.
00:43:45.000So I don't know this individual you're talking about, but I think faith is an important part of it, and mine is not perfect, but I think I've seen how the people of the strongest faith, even not my own faith, but they have strong faith, it gives them a true north that it at least is something to believe in beyond the bullshit that the special interests tell you, and then you literally hire a bunch of people who tell you you're right about everything.
00:44:25.000The fact of the matter is, like you said, the incentives are all wrong.
00:44:28.000So, you're incentivized to, if you take the incentives and you try to work within the system to get things done, you're going to have constituents that are going to say, oh, he's a swamp monster.
00:44:36.000You're going to have people saying, oh, he works with people I don't.
00:44:38.000Because you have to, to have anything that's effective happen, you have to work with people that are going to make your constituents turn their nose up, right?
00:44:46.000If you wanted to do something with, say, AOC, people are going to be like, Yeah, but I let them.
00:44:53.000Look, AOC and I do have legislation together.
00:44:55.000We actually think that it's crazy our government's policies on psychedelics and psilocybin and a bunch of the other things that have shown the ability to save people's lives and let them have better marriages and just, you know, Interact in a way that is not criminal or institutionalized, God forbid.
00:45:13.000So I will work with anyone and everyone to improve the lives of my constituents.
00:45:20.000Well, and I need the votes of people who don't agree with me and who don't really buy my shtick, right?
00:45:25.000Who say that we want somebody who's going to go and just do the job and not try to create all this trouble.
00:45:33.000What I try to sell to those people, and why I think some of them still do vote for me, is whether you agree with me or disagree with me, I'm doing this because I believe it.
00:45:43.000And when the people see that in a leader, I think they are willing to give you grace on disagreement if they know you aren't full of shit.
00:45:52.000What was the reaction after the ouster of McCarthy?
00:45:55.000The first reaction was the one you curated in Miami, Florida.
00:46:01.000I had not been outside of Washington since the Alistair McCarthy and everything that had been going on to try to replace the Speaker.
00:46:30.000They were there for us, and it definitely was a moment I will never forget.
00:46:34.000Because the one thing that I can say, you know a lot of people have complained about Speaker Johnson for a lot of reasons, but one thing I can say is... I'm one of them.
00:46:41.000But you turned a billion dollars in dirty, corrupt, dark money garbage into confetti, as you described it.
00:46:48.000And that is an amazing pie in the face for the corruption in D.C.
00:46:53.000Well, I appreciate that, but it is but one hill, because the Empire struck back.
00:46:59.000Mike Johnson is a tremendous impressionist.
00:49:31.000The whole concept of the Banana Republic is because United Fruit and Standard Fruit were down in Latin America standing up armies and carving nations out of the wilderness for corporate interests.
00:49:41.000So it's not as if no part of the world has never seen what you just described.
00:49:45.000But in terms of how I interact with a lot of these folks, Folks know what they're getting with me.
00:50:49.000They would be singing Yankee Doodle instead of God Save the King.
00:50:51.000Well, I think Western Canada would join America in a lot of ways.
00:50:54.000I mean, I think some of them have their own ties to their national identity, but a lot of Canada is unhappy with how they're governed.
00:51:02.000They're just sort of the minority because they're run by Justin Trudeau and because they have mass immigration that supports a more progressive government.
00:51:10.000Yeah, but the answer to that isn't deconstructing the globalist entities that are interfering with Canada.
00:51:28.000I went there to Bukele's inauguration.
00:51:30.000This is one of the most impressive people I've ever met.
00:51:34.000I'm sitting there looking at a country that was functionally a failed state and now is poised to be the Singapore of the Western Hemisphere.
00:51:42.000And I'm thinking, if this country of six million could do this merely by locking up 70,000 people, Then I just, I don't buy that Canada is so under the thumb of the globalists that they can't prevail.
00:51:55.000Well, and it seems like essentially it took, I know there's more, it's more complex, but it basically took one guy to turn it around.
00:52:00.000I mean, really a lot of these countries need to pick a leader who believes in their citizens and wants to stand by them.
00:52:07.000Yeah, and it's got to be more durable than that, right?
00:52:10.000You know, it's got to be more durable than one guy.
00:52:13.000But I think in every major movement, there are people who, like, become the beachhead.
00:52:19.000And I saw in people in the Congress, people in his government, people in the diplomatic corps, bukele-ism.
00:52:27.000Like, arising as this notion of, like, we're going to have a great band.
00:52:32.000We're going to have a national campaign that people aren't going to litter here.
00:52:35.000This is going to be a beautiful place that people are proud of.
00:52:37.000And that's the stuff that I think, like, gets into the younger generation.
00:53:30.000We should have a culture that is pro-family because that's one of the most effective ways to turn younger generations around, right?
00:53:37.000I mean, this idea that you have young students thinking criminals are what they should aspire to be, I think that is something that happens in America as well.
00:53:45.000But if other countries can change, hypothetically, America could too.
00:53:49.000I just wonder if there are enough people who are willing to act on it day to day.
00:53:53.000I don't know that we aggrandize criminality so much as just virality.
00:54:16.000And look, I deal with it myself, right?
00:54:18.000Oftentimes we look at our work and if people are not observing the work we are doing, if we do not draw people in to the mission that we're on in a particular part of the world.
00:54:29.000I was real instrumental in getting our troops out of Niger.
00:54:32.000To your point about having troops everywhere, right?
00:54:36.000But if no one knows that, if no one sees that, are we really making a durable point rather than just taking some action?
00:55:00.000Mr. Bienvenu, how much do you invest each year on behalf of how many of your members?
00:55:07.000We manage a $500 billion portfolio on behalf of our 2.2 million members and beneficiaries.
00:55:12.000And you've highlighted your principal responsibility is return for those beneficiaries, right?
00:55:19.000Now who is this guy and what does he represent?
00:55:21.000So this guy represents all of California's public workers and he invests all of their money and what they're doing is they're bullying companies to accept DEI and ESG if they want these investments and if they make the investment...
00:55:39.000They're actually going in and voting against folks who might be on the board based on the color of their skin.
00:55:44.000And the public workers can't choose to use a different retirement.
00:56:07.000And so I think there's some parallels between what's going on with ESG and DEI.
00:56:11.000You don't deny that CalPERS has a DEI agenda, right?
00:56:18.000CalPERS is all about generating returns to pay benefits, and every topic that we approach is through that lens.
00:56:24.000Well, does DEI improve the returns to your investors?
00:56:30.000I think part of good governance of a company is having diverse perspectives brought to bear as they manage that company, and I feel strongly about that for the investment team that I lead also.
00:56:52.000You know, as an investor, I read research reports constantly.
00:56:55.000I probably read five, six, eight of them a day.
00:56:57.000So over the course of my career, that's probably been thousands.
00:57:01.000I know, I'm just wondering if there's one that kind of sticks in your mind and you say, Congressman, I'm here to do good by these 2.2 million beneficiaries and my embrace of DEI.
00:57:10.000This is what I can point to as the evidence that that's helping them.
00:57:15.000Every data-based study can tell lots of different things, and every data works that way.
00:57:38.000It's entitled Emerging Diverse Manager Data Report.
00:57:42.000And I'm citing from the sixth page of report where it says, since inception, current diverse managers generally underperformed non-diverse managers in the asset class in the policy benchmark.
00:58:07.000I'm not able to show it to you now, but you don't have any basis to disagree with the agency you've been a part of leading, saying that the diverse, the DEI hires aren't doing as well as the non-DEI hires.
00:58:21.000As I say, when we think about diversity, we think about diverse perspectives being brought to bear on investment decisions.
00:58:26.000Right, but okay, so those are two different things, Mr. Biamini, because on one hand, there's provide returns for my investors, and what your own data says is that your DEI hire is underperformed there.
00:58:36.000And then on the other hand, you say, well, these diverse perspectives are really important.
00:58:40.000But I worry about the market manipulation and the bullying, because as I review what CalPERS has put out under its own investment guidelines, You brag about the fact that you voted against 768 directors at the companies you invest in most recently, and then in the prior year you'd only voted against 133 directors.
00:59:01.000So, is CalPERS voting against people as directors for companies based on their skin color?
00:59:08.000We take up every vote independently based on the merits of the vote itself.
00:59:12.000Right, but do you ever consider, like, someone's skin color?
01:00:06.000Your own data says that your DEI hires aren't performing as well, and you were there for 20 years, and you applied twice for the chief investment position, and you were passed over for that position twice, and you said you weren't going to apply for it the third time because you'd been passed over twice, and I guess they've hired an immigrant to do that job instead.
01:00:25.000Do you think that maybe You were passed over for some of these DEI reasons?
01:00:31.000CalPERS hiring decisions is their own hiring decisions and I'm not really a part of that
01:00:41.000You know, so my question to you, Matt, is did you witness the spine be ripped from that man's back, or did he show up without one?
01:00:49.000He was not just a DEI purveyor, he was also a victim.
01:00:52.000And, like, there are moments you want to feel bad for these people, but actually the institutionalized racism that is DEI only happens because there are people like that.
01:01:02.000Because there are people that are willing to do it.
01:01:03.000Imagine being one of the people that was up for one of these board positions and it was just, you were too white.
01:01:10.000And then what message does that send all the way down an organization like that and throughout the economy?
01:01:16.000And at some point, isn't that why we have antitrust laws?
01:01:19.000If there is collusion to literally de-white-ify the entire corporate system in our country, doesn't that seem worse than what Standard Oil was doing?
01:01:30.000Well, there's a funny meme, and I can't remember who posted it, but they said, isn't it funny that if someone flies an American flag, you know exactly who they're voting for?
01:02:04.000You know, people are flying their flag.
01:02:06.000Yeah, but they're flying it in the United States, saying, make California Mexico again.
01:02:12.000And then you have millions of people crossing the border, they march to this country with their flags of their home nations, illegally enter, and then my favorite thing, Is, uh, I said it sarcastically, Joe Biden claiming he's securing the border by setting a threshold to allow illegal immigration.
01:04:21.000There's no reason an illegal alien should be released into this country if you have the title 42 public health authorities remain in Mexico and safe third country.
01:04:29.000Those three things give you a detain or remove option with every illegal immigrant.
01:04:34.000But shouldn't we also disincentivize people coming here illegally?
01:04:37.000Like, shouldn't we end birthright citizenship so people don't say, well, I just need to rush to the border and have a kid?
01:04:42.000We're in the minority in the developed world with the way we treat citizenship.
01:04:47.000I think we're the only country in the developed world that doesn't.
01:04:52.000Like, the next generation of cartel talent slip across the border, have their babies, and then they get the full suite of rights that we would afford any American.
01:05:00.000And the Chinese get their birthing suites!
01:05:06.000They'll hire an American woman to carry a Chinese Communist Party child, and then it's born in America, brought right back to China, but has citizenship rights.
01:05:17.000We're literally being reduced to our wombs for the Chinese.
01:05:28.000I think that would be a great idea, but I don't think it's enough.
01:05:31.000We should enforce the laws in our books.
01:05:32.000Yes, but we should also revise the laws that encourage people to come here illegally.
01:05:35.000And that requires an attorney general that's willing to write a policy on subject to the jurisdiction thereof around the constitutional provisions of birthright citizenship, and I'm for it.
01:05:47.000Matt, you're aware of the people that were arrested, I believe, in New York, essentially ISIS members?
01:05:56.000The repercussions of having an open border and having this kind of stuff, because if there's six that were picked up, I mean, I don't think it's six out of 10 million.
01:06:03.000I think it's probably a whole lot more.
01:06:07.000There are multiple groups that have significant problems with the United States and have, I personally believe, that have used the open border to send people into the United States to cause problems.
01:06:19.000Remember that trip Mike Johnson led House Republicans on down to Eagle Pass?
01:06:23.000We got there a little bit early and we talked to some of the folks who were there and they said, Congressman, some of the folks angriest about this are FBI and Homeland Security investigations because they had a whole special group here that they'd rounded up that they had questions on based on country of origin, where they were from, not saying everyone was a terrorist, but definitely some people that deserve some extra screening.
01:06:44.000And when they found out all of you were coming, those folks were dispersed and just sent out anywhere.
01:06:48.000Also, I heard Mayorkas talking about U.S.
01:06:52.000installations along the road that they're taking to get here in other countries.
01:06:58.000I don't remember, I don't have the clip up here, but I heard Mayorkas talking, I think it was in front of Congress, talking about there are U.S.
01:07:04.000installations assisting people that are making the journey.
01:07:08.000Which, I don't know the ins and outs of it, but that seems absolutely absurd to me.
01:07:13.000But it also doesn't seem out of what the administration would do.
01:07:22.000And I was told by our House leadership that in the last spending bill, the reduction in spending of the NGOs that move people around by 20% was a real concession that we got.
01:08:02.000Yeah, I had one of the senior leaders of the Marine Corps sitting down, and I asked him, you know, how big his budget was.
01:08:07.000He told me, I said, what if we just doubled it?
01:08:09.000So I've never had a congressman ask me that before.
01:08:12.000Usually folks are asking me to cut money or what could I reposition, but gosh, I could do all these things if I doubled it.
01:08:19.000You realize the last authorization we wrote for Ukraine is bigger than the funding of the entire Marine Corps in the United States.
01:08:27.000We could give that money to Ukraine for one year or have an entire other Marine Corps.
01:08:32.000And at a time when our recruiting is failing, when our facilities in a lot of these bases are, see the barracks moldy and the food's bad, like for our own troops, it sucks to see us doing this where we're not even following our end use monitoring laws, where we're retiring Ukrainian debt service.
01:08:50.000And I sort of wonder like what victory looks like.
01:08:52.000And when I've asked questions of the Biden admin officials, like, okay, so Does Putin's strategic defeat, that's what they always use, does that mean that Crimea has to be repatriated?
01:09:05.000And the answer from all of them is yes.
01:09:08.000Right, so this is the new forever war.
01:09:11.000And I'm sorry, but I've lived my whole life watching these wars.
01:09:14.000There'll be nuclear missiles flying if it's wrong.
01:09:19.000I think that the goal of the liberal order and the regime is to maintain Ukraine as a weapons and money laundering mecca for the next 30 years.
01:09:28.000Yeah, but we have Russian ships off the coast of Florida now.
01:09:34.000I'm not worried about Russian assets near Florida so much as I am the Chinese ones.
01:09:39.000And you know, and I'll explain it because Cuba used to have all these, you know, rusted out Russian facilities.
01:09:45.000They barely could get the propane to those places to turn the lights on.
01:09:48.000Okay, they were so sucked up into what was going on in Ukraine.
01:09:52.000And then over the last Several years, we have seen the Chinese go in with a leveraged buyout of Russian assets in Cuba, and you're seeing new antennas, you're seeing new intel, you're seeing new crews with new manning structures, and that is a Chinese
01:10:09.000You know, stationary aircraft carrier 90 miles off my home state.
01:10:13.000That worries me less than, like, some Russian vessels sort of wandering by the Florida coast.
01:10:25.000Because I pulled up this photo for the previous segment where all of these illegal immigrants are wearing shirts that say, Biden, please pull this up, Serge.
01:10:41.000I'm gonna buy a bunch of properties in like New York, Chicago, and LA.
01:10:44.000And then I'm going to rent them out at great rates to young, liberal college kids.
01:10:49.000And then after a few months, I'm going to let them know that I've decided to let a bunch of illegal immigrants stay in their apartment free of charge, and they're gonna have to take care of them.
01:10:57.000It's on them, but they're good people, so they'll accept it.
01:11:00.000And then we'll see what their politics turn into.
01:11:02.000Is this also a reality TV show, or are there hidden cameras?
01:11:35.000You're basically saying, hey, Biden, stab the American people in the back for me.
01:11:38.000By the way, this is not happening in Florida.
01:11:41.000This is happening in New York, this is happening in Chicago, and there's a little bit of, you all wanted these sanctuary policies, you elected leaders who gave you these sanctuary policies, here's your fucking sanctuary.
01:11:52.000Yes, but it's affecting us politically.
01:11:54.000They are giving Democrats free congressional seats, and they're giving them free electoral college votes, and then it's weighted against the American people when it comes to how we run our country.
01:12:03.000Yeah, well that's why I think the administration, the Trump administration, made a mistake in the last go-around by not Why couldn't the Trump administration get that done?
01:13:18.000Yeah, we gotta be ready to run the baton race.
01:13:20.000Oh, well, you know, this is actually a really, really interesting tactic for a landlord who's trying to evict their young, hippie tenants.
01:13:27.000Just invite a bunch of illegal immigrants to live there, and then they'll be put between a rock and a hard place of, do I complain to my friends that my landlord is putting refugees in my house, and then become shunned and ostracized for being far right, or do I just leave?
01:13:40.000But then what do you do with the illegal immigrants who are living in your building?
01:14:01.000Because you mentioned- I'm not actually suggesting you rent properties out to young people and then move- I'm making a thought experiment point that they would- It's only fun if we get to probe your thought experiment.
01:14:42.000They can't tweet about what they're doing, they're gone.
01:14:44.000Because you mentioned that Florida is operating so differently than New York and other places, I wanted to ask what your relationship with Governor DeSantis is like.
01:16:53.000I just am glad that that's the discussion we're having, because success has many fathers and failure is an orphan.
01:16:59.000And, you know, we were here making the case about Trump being uniquely positioned to continue leading this movement at a time when people were saying, well, he's sort of done his part.
01:17:19.000I think that if we win, if we build out a great government, if we start delivering on strong administrative action, if we have a Congress that's a partner rather than whatever the Mitch McConnell-Paul Ryan two-headed monster was, if we get all that in place, then we're going to have a lot of great choices.
01:18:20.000There are three quick ethics things that I think would fix a bunch of it.
01:18:23.000One, if you ban the lobbyist and PAC money.
01:18:25.000Two, if you ban members of Congress from becoming lobbyists or registered foreign agents.
01:18:32.000Because so many people who are supposed to be working now for the people are actually thinking about their job on the other side of the wire.
01:18:38.000And then the third thing is, for the same reason, you don't let the umpire bet on the game, we should not have members of Congress trading individual stocks.
01:18:45.000You do those three things, It will have a really therapeutic effect on the institution.
01:18:50.000Yeah, but the issue I take with that is, you know, I want to adopt the Pelosi strategy, right?
01:18:55.000That's where you track her stock investments and you get rich quick.
01:19:00.000You ban Pelosi from trading, how am I going to know what to invest in?
01:19:08.000I think that if Trump wins and MAGA Republicans win in Congress, and hopefully in the Senate, I think that could trigger not a civil war, but a realignment that forces a lot of Democrats to reprioritize to try and win elections again.
01:19:25.000So if— So they come back to the middle in your theory?
01:19:29.000So what you want is— That's not going to happen.
01:19:32.000Well— Do you think that these genderless, purple-haired Woketopians are going to wake up one day and be like, you know, if we had more centrist economic policies, maybe we'd get more suburban white lady votes?
01:19:42.000But you do have a lot of Democrats who aren't purple-haired.
01:19:46.000And what's going to happen is they're going to be sitting there saying like, look, we just saw like a five point swing towards the GOP in our district, which is supposed to be D plus 13.
01:20:34.000You know, I think it's – I know we talk about this a lot, that the Democratic Party for some people has left them behind.
01:20:40.000Their policies are more in line with what the Democrats were like maybe 50 years ago.
01:20:46.000But I think ultimately there is – I think a lot of the youngest generation doesn't like either party and so they sort of look at each election sifting out, well, what are my interests and who is most qualified to represent me?
01:20:59.000Like, don't you think that the way the counterculture dynamic has worked in that respect leans right now?
01:21:04.000I mean, we're either tied or a little bit up with the under 30 crowd.
01:21:07.000And for some reason, me in particular, I do very well with the under 30 crowd.
01:21:11.000And I used to be part of that crowd, but it's been a hot minute.
01:21:14.000Uh, and so I think it's because, like, when I was in school, all my teachers were these, like, kind of liberal wimps.
01:21:22.000I'm sorry, all my teachers were, like, the buttoned-up conservatives, right?
01:21:24.000They were all the, like, you know, they all were, like, part of the Rotary Club and, you know, had their hair in the bun, and now they're the liberal wimps.
01:21:31.000And so you got students now who are, like, the way to post up on your pansexual teacher is to, like, want to get married and be normal and straight.
01:21:41.000Yeah, I think the issue is Young people are lonely.
01:21:58.000There was a funny story I heard where there was like a college party and all the guys were drunk and started singing the Star Spangled Banner and the women just looked around like, Like, what do we do?
01:22:06.000Because women are going left and men are going right.
01:22:11.000Younger guys, I think, you know, you look at Andrew Tate, you look at Jordan Peterson, you can look at the good or the bad, doesn't matter.
01:22:17.000Young men are lonely, they're upset, and they're looking for masculine role models, and the Democrats are telling men to F off.
01:22:24.000I think there is definitely an aspect to that.
01:22:26.000I also think for the, you know, Fresh 18 to 22 year olds, they were young under Trump's economy and probably watched their parents stress less than they do now trying to set up their own lives.
01:22:39.000What's the cure to loneliness, you think?
01:22:43.000I think it's community building, and I think this starts with the family.
01:22:46.000I think the nuclear family in America isn't valued enough, but we also see it in the fact that there's less religious participation.
01:22:52.000People aren't volunteering at the same rates.
01:22:54.000We are ultimately on our screens all the time thinking we're pseudo-connected to people as opposed to actually... The cure for loneliness for men is meaning.
01:23:43.000It used to be the military was a big part of a community like that and this weird military where they fired a bunch of people for not getting the... It's like... 8,600 people.
01:23:54.000More than the entire militaries of some of our NATO allies.
01:23:56.000Talk about resolute human beings unwilling to waver.
01:24:02.000Well, if they come back, they will not be automatically barred, but my legislation to give them full rank restoration and back pay, if we have screwed them over, we have not been able to get a vote on.
01:24:14.000I think that, you know, I've met many people.
01:24:17.000It's not just the vaccine mandate stuff, which was a kick in the balls to many, many good people, but the DEI stuff in the military.
01:24:24.000I've met many Officers who said that they've and many I mean like two or three because I don't know a lot of me But a couple I spoke to a couple got a lot of military who watch this show and a lot of enlisted guys But a lot of I've had a couple a handful of officers Tell me that they've resigned their their their commissions because of DEI I had one guy say that it was his dream to retire from the military as an old man and live out the rest of his days and he was leaving in his mid-30s because of DEI
01:24:52.000The old men who are willing to do that are the people who make a great country and lead a great country and inspire generations of service.
01:25:00.000And I'll give you one of the DEI stories from this Biden administration.
01:25:03.000Lloyd Austin comes in, he says, well, one thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to take everybody's picture off their promotion packet.
01:25:09.000Because people's inherent cultural bias could get them to see the picture and not pick someone who isn't like them.
01:25:15.000And then, of course, after that happened for a little while, do you think we became a more diverse officer class or a less diverse officer class?
01:25:23.000And then he had to reverse that policy.
01:25:25.000But it just shows that this stuff is driven with such reflex, and it reduces us to our immutable traits.
01:25:35.000Like, this is America, not some slave auction.
01:25:37.000We're not reduced to our immutable traits.
01:25:39.000We are a dynamic, interconnected group of people that ought to be able to judge one another based on what's on the inside, not on the outside.
01:25:46.000That used to not even be a controversial view, and now, when you say it, people think you're a racist.
01:25:51.000So, Matt, like I said before, I really think the biggest thing that young men need is meaning, which is part of the reason why young men do respond well in the military.
01:25:58.000Like, you've got a team together, you've got guys together, you've got bros that you're hanging out with, you don't want to let your team down.
01:26:08.000One of the things that I'm thinking about, or that has been on my mind lately, is the fact that when you have a nation of young men without meaning, that have economic problems, you've got a tinderbox of social problems.
01:26:22.000Because young guys that don't have stuff to do, they go out and they get into fights.
01:26:35.000What kind of policy is possible to fix that?
01:26:36.000Because right now I think that most of the problems that we have come from the fact that the young men are not being given any kind of support from society.
01:28:30.000And how come no one can come up with any type of plan that can even broach... I understand that it's radioactive, But everyone also knows that the dollar is going to be blown up.
01:28:44.000You're going to destroy the value of the dollar if people don't want to continue to buy our debt.
01:29:14.000And there'll be some states that'll totally blow it, and their poor population will probably be worse off.
01:29:19.000And there'll be some states that'll come up with the way to deploy 5,000 AI doctors to their poorest people or they'll find some way to get primary care to
01:29:29.000people faster and easier so that they're not in higher expensive acute care and then
01:29:34.000the goal under the federal system we have is that the best practices will
01:29:37.000emerge and be copied and that's how you do it as opposed to the system now that we
01:29:42.000have built around Medicaid where if you're a state you get more money the
01:29:46.000more you spend. When I was a state lawmaker in Florida for every dollar we spent on
01:29:49.000Medicaid we drew down a buck 48. Why would you want to spend less? You want to
01:29:54.000spend more because that enhances your drawdown.
01:29:56.000So what is the maximum we can spend on this population?
01:29:58.000And that creates that sense of dependency that makes people, I think, less productive otherwise.
01:30:06.000So you start by block granting Medicaid.
01:30:08.000I think that creates momentum for other mandatory spending reforms.
01:30:11.000You know, I think the way to fix the economy, one way to do it is to focus on GDP rather than the money itself, the gross domestic product.
01:30:17.000What are we producing here domestically?
01:30:19.000And if we start with hydrogen and we start retrofitting our economy to a hydrogen-carbon fuel system, like a hybrid system, The hydrogen can be run through the methane ports that we already have open, according to Jim Tuer at Rice University.
01:30:33.000You can produce this stuff from carbon trash by hitting it with 7,000-degree electricity, called flash-joule heating.
01:30:38.000You get hydrogen fuel and you get graphene byproduct.
01:30:41.000So it's profitable to create hydrogen.
01:30:43.000The key is you've got to convince the carbon industry that we're going to...
01:31:15.000It aligns very, very well with what I view as the more MAGA-aligned view of the United States.
01:31:19.000Unfortunately for you, the deep state, bureaucratic state establishment military industrial complex says, gee, Ian, that's a whole lot of work.
01:31:27.000How about we make a bunch of guns and go brown people in foreign countries so that they're forced to use our dollar?
01:31:32.000Yeah, they're going to keep doing that.
01:31:33.000It's not about convincing the carbon industry to adopt new metrics or new systems.
01:31:37.000It's about shutting down the cabal of psychotic warmongers.
01:31:41.000Or repurposing their focus into a drone destruction program where we're blowing up drones instead of people.
01:31:47.000You can even paint the drones brown if you're obsessed with it.
01:31:49.000That can affect the profits of the corporations, but it doesn't change the fact the likes of Hillary Clinton and her ilk and the Liz Cheney's are thinking if we put more of our young men and women in harm's way in foreign countries, they'll be forced to use the petrodollar.
01:32:04.000They don't care about drone program profits or whatever.
01:32:08.000They care about can we point a gun at a foreign country so they use the petrodollar.
01:32:13.000Well, it's a carrot and a stick because you go drop, you know, The reason they give the dollar, everyone said, why are we giving 12 million in gender studies to Pakistan?
01:32:43.000But what's going to happen is some other country is going to start pumping out hydrogen with this flash jewel technology before the United States.
01:32:49.000And then the entire world is going to have to pivot and we're going to be... Don't even disagree.
01:32:52.000And that's why I think Trump is right.
01:32:54.000If you look at the direction the MAGA politics, the populist politics are going, it's secure our borders, bring jobs back, get the Americans back to work, better trade agreements so that they're not offshoring our jobs.
01:33:08.000But Trans-Pacific Partnership, you're out the window.
01:33:10.000Then you look at the Clinton, Biden, Obama, deep state garbage, the Cheneys, and it's, we don't want to do anything for the American people.
01:34:27.000There's like a private company that's working on this flash fuel production technology for the carbon and the hydrogen.
01:34:33.000But what's the good, best way to work with the government?
01:34:36.000for a large private graphene corporation to kind of subsidize- Look, man, I knew I did not learn enough about graphene for this episode, but- You've been here before!
01:35:04.000For most of our lives, like in Silicon Valley, the most important stakeholder, the most important investor has been the Department of Defense.
01:35:13.000And now we're in a really different incentive structure where our brightest minds are not working on Breakthrough technology our best minds are working on how to keep you on a video view for 0.8 seconds longer And you know what's the what's the way to get more likes on a meme?
01:35:31.000Not how to get lasers and munitions like if we had DOD Working with graphing corporations to like set up facilities all over the country and be like look We've got them in your district.
01:35:40.000We want to put one in every state We want to put one in like three of them in every state Ian's already understanding congressional politics.
01:35:47.000You're going to want to start with the state of the appropriations chairman, the speaker, the key authorizers for armed services.
01:35:54.000That's really where you're going to want to sprinkle this imaginary project you're on.
01:37:31.000I mean, like, every time I turn around, someone's gotten some new lame, like, poll-tested, focused, grouped, like, contract.
01:37:37.000How about just, like, do... I would like us to just do stuff.
01:37:40.000And trust is built by keeping promises.
01:37:44.000And we have broken a lot of them, frankly, as a House Republican conference and around the boldness and the vigor with which we should have pursued the Biden administration.
01:37:53.000So, I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm less of a contract guy than just an action guy.
01:37:59.000Do you think that the time to pursue the Biden administration is kind of running out?
01:38:03.000I mean, he's not polling particularly well.
01:38:05.000What are you guys going to get done before the end of the year?
01:38:08.000How do you take seriously any effort to pursue these people while we fully fund them?
01:38:14.000Kevin McCarthy's original sin was underwriting the debt for the Biden administration, and subsequent leadership has advanced the spending priorities of these people.
01:38:24.000It's like, how could a parent ever have discipline over a child if you just keep giving them more and more allowance no matter what they do?
01:40:30.000I thought he was the preferred candidate.
01:40:33.000Don't know much about North Dakota politics, just thought Dr. Becker was someone who would fight for people's liberty and it's a shrinking group that will, you know, I would say vote still because the hope has to be at this point that if you get Trump in there, courage will be sufficiently contagious and that people who are otherwise spineless will grow a backbone and actually engage.
01:41:18.000Otaku Magnet says, Matt, are the politicians you work with that are pushing war so hard oblivious to the current anger citizens have towards their warmongering?
01:41:27.000Do they think everyone will go along like sheep when they start drafting our kids to die for them?
01:41:32.000I think they're all stuck in a time warp where they think that anyone who wants to impose foreign policy realism is Neville Chamberlain, and anyone who wants to start three wars before lunchtime tomorrow is Winston Churchill.
01:41:49.000The war pimps are not just on the take.
01:41:53.000They have bathed in a self-righteousness.
01:41:57.000there's like a moral self-preening with them, with the neocons in both parties, actually. And what's
01:42:02.000really crazy is that the Democrat Party has become the pro-war party. When there are these questions
01:42:07.000about war powers and war and peace, there is no more anti-war Democrats. Even the people like
01:42:15.000Ro Khanna, Ilhan Omar, who I used to work with on matters like war powers, they—you
01:42:23.000Ukraine has radicalized the Democratic Party to be the pro-war party.
01:42:29.000You're saying like war realists like Neville Chamberlain, because he's the guy known for appeasing Hitler when Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia.
01:42:38.000Neville Chamberlain was the He thought at the time, I'm appeasing Hitler, there's going to be no war in Europe.
01:42:49.000And so they think now that if we give seed land to the Russians that they'll just keep going.
01:43:06.000No, the Germans have been building up a war machine in preparation for that invasion for like a decade before the invasion, or like eight years or something.
01:43:13.000Under the guise of- It was totally different ambitions.
01:43:33.000You know, but what really bothers me is where's a single state to file criminal charges against any of these individuals the way they're going after Trump?
01:44:06.000And I think that it sucks that they've done this and they've crossed the Rubicon.
01:44:10.000I don't think... I'm not like cheerleading some situation where we can go be like, oh sweet, we can do a bunch of extrajudicial punishment to people.
01:44:33.000I mean, the most obvious one is, and it's tough because I know how they weasel their answers around, like when you were questioning the DEI guy, you're like, oh, and they give you this roundabout answer.
01:44:44.000First thing we need to know is, has there been any communication between you and anyone in the DOJ?
01:44:54.000Are you aware of any decision that was influenced, informed, in any way?
01:44:58.000But they're going to try and trick you.
01:45:00.000So it's, you know, my approach would always just be, have you had any communications with any, have you or anyone you are working with been in communication with the Department of Justice?
01:45:10.000And then they're going to play their game where they're like... Well, Congressman Poole, there are a lot of communications that happen in the world.
01:45:16.000Communications that happen on the phone, over email, there's some communications that are in person.
01:45:30.000This is why I'm not convinced that these, like... And they give me five minutes.
01:45:34.000Doesn't that seem like an insufficient amount of time?
01:45:36.000But this is why I'm saying we need a red state AG or whatever just to be like, hey, how about this?
01:45:41.000Hillary Clinton destroyed public records.
01:45:43.000She also has a campaign running in our state.
01:45:45.000Is there an overlap between the people in her organization who committed these crimes that we know about and anything her campaign had done?
01:45:52.000And then we actually hold them accountable for the things they've done.
01:45:55.000Not extrajudicially, not retribution, quite literally, okay, we're not playing games anymore.
01:46:01.000We know that there are criminal actions taking place, we're going to start charging people for them.
01:46:06.000And that has to be done not to settle a score, but to set a deterrent.
01:46:13.000I've become the biggest cheerleader of Bukele.
01:46:16.000He went in with his cabinet at the very beginning and said, I'd like to start the meeting by informing everyone here that the Attorney General will be investigating everyone for their financial situation, including me.
01:46:26.000And lo and behold, one of their ministers was a rat in the woodpile and had some bad drug money and got found out.
01:46:33.000And that's the kind of thing that wasn't done to punish that guy.
01:46:38.000But to set a new standard for a country that wanted to pull itself out of the mire and into a respectable place.
01:46:45.000And we kind of almost got to do the same.
01:46:46.000As we've descended into third world chaos, we almost need to look to some of the things that countries have done to right the ship.
01:46:54.000To your super chat that's going to run for governor, the future of Governor of Wisconsin, this is a beef I have with some folks.
01:47:00.000We need people to run for office, but we also need people to run for stuff they can win.
01:47:05.000We need populists on the school board, on the county governments.
01:47:10.000at the state legislatures and it's so frustrating when I see people who would be an ideal mayor
01:47:15.000or they'd be really great cutting their teeth in the state legislature say, oh no, no, no,
01:47:20.000what's most important to me is that I run for Congress.
01:47:22.000Then they come in like fourth out of seven and are not as capable.
01:47:28.000And there are more of us than there are of them, but not if we shoot ourselves in the
01:47:34.000And all the funding that went to their campaign could have been more effective for a smaller
01:47:37.000And I hate for it to come back to the money, because as I started out this discussion, I want to build a model that is less about the money and more about, are you inspiring an audience to take action that can get you the most votes?
01:47:49.000But at the same time, you have to have resources for any project.
01:47:53.000For this podcast, you guys have to have a budget and resources, and that creates an ecosystem where you can thrive economically.
01:48:01.000Well, and you have to steward the money well, so especially if you're running for a state office, if you have people in your local community supporting you, wouldn't it be better if you invested the money wisely in a seat that you could win and really make a difference?
01:48:12.000If you have bigger ambitions one day, that's great, but why don't we start somewhere that you can affect change?
01:48:16.000I don't know, maybe this guy's worth a hundred million dollars, you know?
01:48:18.000Oh, if he wants to run for governor, you know?
01:48:20.000Well then his super chat should be more.
01:48:23.000He should have more superchats if he's worth a hundred bucks.
01:49:00.000He obviously cares about a lot of policy issues, but when you ask him about abortion, when you ask him about guns, he says, oh yeah, oh geez, oh yeah.
01:49:09.000And then when it comes to toxins in the environment and our food, he lights up.
01:49:13.000Electricity surges through him and he says, you've got the biphenyls, you've got the BPEs, plastics, you've got pesticides, he knows all about it, he's pissed about it, and he's right about it.
01:49:23.000So, I've been radicalized by Luke Rutkowski, who says there is a biological war being waged against each of us, and you become susceptible to that if you allow it, and you have to take affirmative steps to become resilient to that.
01:49:36.000Dude, I just did an intestinal cleanse for that.
01:50:00.000Okay, I believe the only way Steve Bannon does not go to jail is if there is a vote at an entity called the BLAG, the Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group.
01:50:10.000It is made up of the Speaker of the House, the Majority Leader, the Majority Whip, the Minority Leader, and the Minority Whip.
01:50:16.000So the Republicans hold a 3-2 in this.
01:50:18.000Bannon is going to petition for an en banc review of this determination to revoke his bail.
01:50:25.000When he does, I believe the BLAG should and will take a 3-2 vote for the House to seek leave to file an amicus brief with the en banc court that the January 6th committee was illegitimate.
01:50:40.000It was illegitimately formed, it was a runaway committee, it did not have a proper minority member, and whether it's Peter Navarro or Steve Bannon, nobody Nobody should be sitting in a jail cell because they would not comply with the absurd musings of a committee unlike any before in our nation's history.
01:50:59.000So he would go to this committee, this five-person committee where there's three people.
01:51:05.000And if they vote in favor, then they would create a committee?
01:51:08.000What they would do is they would go to the court and say, we want to tell the court that it is now the official view of the House of Representatives that the January 6th committee was illegitimate.
01:51:17.000And then Bannon's lawyers could ask the court to take judicial notice of that vote by the blag, which would then give them a basis to allow his bail to stay in effect.
01:51:26.000And Republicans can do this with the majority?
01:51:57.000The legal argument, I mean, if you look at the construction of any committee in Congress, it is informed by the majority party and the minority party providing their members.
01:52:07.000And then the minority, pursuant to the legislation that created the January 6th committee, requires a ranking member.
01:52:14.000Well, instead of that, Nancy Pelosi kicked off Jim Jordan, kicked off Jim Banks, so we took all of our minority members off and said this is an illegitimate committee.
01:53:52.000The left is trying to take over the Democratic Party.
01:53:55.000The way you're describing it, it makes me want to watch you cover the DNC so much more than it makes me want to watch you cover the RNC, just to be honest.
01:54:52.000The worst I ever get- I mean, I know I'm not for everyone, but like, the people who hate us, they do sort of- part of the reason they hate us is they think we might be dangerous.
01:55:01.000So sometimes you just get like a sneer.
01:55:04.000Because I think they wouldn't approach you, right?
01:55:06.000Probably the people who come up to you like you.
01:55:53.000Well, there are people who watch this show who do not agree with you, who are not going to vote the way that you want them to vote, but it's just intellectually provoking for them to observe the discussions.
01:56:03.000With the DNC, I don't think it's going to be crazy this time, because I don't think the fervor is there, the Bernie people that were betrayed.
01:58:05.000If you really look at the way that these appointments have to go, This notion that the majority leader of the Senate dictates the calendar is a new construct.
01:58:13.000We need a vice president that's going to be like John Adams and sit over there in the Senate and preside over the Senate and say, oh, guess what?
01:58:19.000You're not going to confirm our nominee to CIA?
01:58:21.000Well, I've just decided that we're out of session for six months and the administration will be making some recess appointments.
01:58:27.000Like there's a way, there's a way with a vice president who knows the Senate.
01:58:33.000So you gotta find somebody who gets it enough to be able to execute, but who doesn't have such reverence for it that they're sitting around waiting for, like, you know, Mitch McConnell's replacement to be de-thawed.
01:59:57.000They don't ever give me the secret handshake.
01:59:59.000I wonder how deep they are with the Empire.
02:00:01.000Well, we didn't fly the British flag in Congress.
02:00:04.000It always flew the Ukrainian flag, so that's probably more of my concern.
02:00:07.000That's the current proxy war of the British Empire.
02:00:10.000I feel like we're a late-stage Empire, like in Rome where the Praetorian Guard are in control now, where if the Emperor steps out of line, they kill him and put a new Emperor in.
02:00:18.000But Charles was just so backseat, and Elizabeth was so backseat, they're like, Live and let live.
02:00:23.000Yeah, I could turn Canada into Britain and just make it part of England if I wanted to, but I'm not gonna, because you'd kill me and then take control.
02:00:30.000So I think the CIA is really, I don't know if it's the CIA, MI6, are kind of running the empire.
02:00:36.000And we're like business cahoots with them as the United States.
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