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00:02:59.000 I agree with him in that regard, but I don't mind a holiday that celebrates the Republicans' defeat over the Democrats.

00:03:05.000 Speaking of that, we got the big news from the New York Times today.

00:03:08.000 The DNC is in chaos, completely out of money.

00:03:10.000 They're panicking.

00:03:11.000 Their donors are leaving, and they have record low approval.

00:03:14.000 I kind of feel bad because it's just like you're kicking them when they're down, but I think of all political groups, this is the one you want to go after.

00:03:23.000 So this is the big news.

00:03:24.000 We have them routed, and I don't know how they recover.

00:03:27.000 Many have said that this is the oldest political party it is, the oldest political party in the world, and sooner or later it was going to come crashing down.

00:03:33.000 This may be it.

00:03:34.000 So big news here.

00:03:35.000 And then, of course, Donald Trump ragging on Juneteenth and a viral video where Kroger apparently has Juneteenth cakes, cookie cakes.

00:03:43.000 So this one's going to be pretty funny.

00:03:45.000 And there is news, kind of.

00:03:48.000 Trump says within two weeks he'll make a decision on whether to attack Iran, which is perfect considering the White House also believes that it'll take Iran two weeks to get a nuke. 0.77

00:03:57.000 And that's about how long it'll take for the USS Nimitz to get to the region.

00:04:00.000 So it kind of sounds like Trump is like, give me two weeks.

00:04:03.000 We're not yet prepared for an attack on Iran.

00:04:08.000 So we'll talk about that and a whole lot more, my friends.

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00:05:35.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Nathan Halberstadt.

00:05:38.000 It's great to be here on this blessed Juneteenth as we decided that we're going to describe it.

00:05:43.000 Yeah, merry, happy.

00:05:45.000 Yeah, it works.

00:05:46.000 I'm Nathan Halberstadt.

00:05:48.000 My writing is at the American Conservative and also at American Reformer.

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00:06:15.000 Building charter communities and things like that.

00:06:18.000 Should be fun.

00:06:19.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:06:20.000 Mary is here.

00:06:20.000 Hi, everyone.

00:06:21.000 I am usually on Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast, but I'm happy to be back.

00:06:27.000 Right on.

00:06:28.000 Blessed Juneteenth.

00:06:29.000 Blessed!

00:06:30.000 Blessed Juneteenth to you, Tate!

00:06:32.000 Thank you, yeah.

00:06:33.000 Producer Tate here, Tate Brown.

00:06:34.000 Yeah, blessed Juneteenth had to be here for Juneteenth. 0.77

00:06:37.000 I'm ready to celebrate.

00:06:38.000 All right, blessed Juneteenth to Phil.

00:06:40.000 Blessed Juneteenth to everybody. 0.98

00:06:42.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.90

00:06:43.000 My name's Phil Labonte. 0.94

00:06:44.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal vandal that remains when anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:06:48.000 Blessed Juneteenth to you all.

00:06:50.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:51.000 Here we go from the New York Times.

00:06:52.000 The DNC is in chaos and desperate for cash.

00:06:56.000 Under its new leader, Ken Martin, the Democratic National Committee has been plagued by infighting and a drop in big donations, raising alarms for Democrats as they try to win back power.

00:07:06.000 I don't believe it could happen.

00:07:07.000 At this point...

00:07:11.000 Mr. Martin has still not spoken with major donors.

00:07:16.000 At the same time, he's expanded the party's financial commitments to every state and even Guam.

00:07:22.000 He's trying very hard.

00:07:23.000 Check this out from Newsweek.

00:07:25.000 Disapproval of Democrats in Congress ticks upward.

00:07:28.000 I was surprised to hear that disapproval could have gotten worse, but it's really bad.

00:07:34.000 Democrats currently have a 21% approval rating.

00:07:39.000 Republicans, what do they have?

00:07:40.000 Republicans and this, they're like, what is it?

00:07:43.000 Do they not have enough?

00:07:44.000 I guess this one's not showing Republicans.

00:07:46.000 Republicans are at like high 30s, mid 40s.

00:07:49.000 32% approval.

00:07:51.000 Is that what it says for Republicans?

00:07:52.000 That's 11 points better.

00:07:55.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.000 I think they blew their load on champagne, the six-figure cost for Kamala's call-her-daddy appearance.

00:08:06.000 Lots of parties.

00:08:08.000 And they kind of just lost the plot.

00:08:10.000 And they gave Ken Martin a raise as soon as he started.

00:08:16.000 He was quietly going to just take an extra 50k a year.

00:08:21.000 Nice.

00:08:22.000 Well, good for them.

00:08:23.000 It's interesting because the argument that we have right now with Trump, with Iran, with the economy, with the border, is that Trump's got to get it all done now.

00:08:32.000 Otherwise, Democrats will win in the midterms.

00:08:34.000 I'm not so convinced.

00:08:36.000 Every day, it's just getting worse.

00:08:38.000 And I was kind of confused by this.

00:08:40.000 So I asked our good AI friend, Chet GPT, why were Democrats polling so miserably?

00:08:46.000 And it aggregated some sources making the claim that because of the damage Joe Biden did in the last four years, people are continuing to get angry at the Democrats.

00:08:58.000 It seems that the problems people are experiencing today, they are still blaming on the Democratic Party.

00:09:04.000 I suppose the argument is that when your run-of-the-mill person tries looking into why things are inflating and costing so much money, they're not blaming Trump.

00:09:12.000 They're looking at what the Democrats did in the past term, and the blame is still going to Democrats.

00:09:19.000 Remarkably.

00:09:20.000 Well, I mean, yeah.

00:09:21.000 I mean, you say remarkably, but as things have trickled out about the previous administration since the changeover, The American people have become very, very skeptical of not just the Joe Biden administration and the things that the Biden administration did, but also the media that was saying, hey, Joe Biden is fine, etc., etc.

00:09:44.000 So I think that the loss of faith in the DNC is because they were all doing their best to hide a serious condition that the president had.

00:09:57.000 Well, I think they also have a man problem.

00:10:01.000 Which is fairly obvious.

00:10:02.000 And they're trying slowly to recover from that.

00:10:05.000 But every time that a man in the Democratic Party has an idea of how to fix that problem and appeal to men, they shout him down and instead want to listen to this ham planet Olivia Juliana, what she has to say as part of the consultant class. 0.96

00:10:22.000 Gavin Newsom is trying to fix the problem with this podcast.

00:10:25.000 I don't know how that's going for him.

00:10:27.000 And then this guy, Ken Martin, I think this was a couple weeks ago, like Politico found this leaked audio where he was talking with, yeah, I think this is something we covered.

00:10:37.000 Yeah, he was like infighting with David Hogg and he was saying like David Hogg was the reason why he doesn't feel like he can do this anymore. 0.98

00:10:44.000 Like how much of a little bitch do you have to be for David Hogg to David Mogg you? 1.00

00:10:52.000 He is an alpha male, David Hogg. 1.00

00:10:53.000 He is, he is.

00:10:56.000 You're speaking to multiple problems, though.

00:10:58.000 Not only do they have a deficit of leadership, but they have a deficit of actual plans when it comes to what to actually do.

00:11:08.000 Like, what is the Democrat Party now?

00:11:10.000 Are the progressives in charge or are the old guards in charge?

00:11:12.000 If the old guards are in charge, then they likely can make up any kind of donation deficit that they're experiencing now.

00:11:20.000 Now, if the progressives are in charge, they're not going to get the same kind of donations.

00:11:23.000 They're going to have to rely on the small donations from people on the street, you know, But then they're not even attempting to talk to major donors like him?

00:11:51.000 Which is a puzzle?

00:11:52.000 I don't think the progressives are.

00:11:54.000 Are they waiting until next year?

00:11:56.000 They're in charge.

00:11:57.000 The progressives seem to be in charge of the policies that the DNC is focusing on.

00:12:06.000 Look at the reaction to the stuff about the trans decision in Tennessee just from yesterday.

00:12:12.000 That is such a, again, a 90-10 issue, and that's what they're spending their time focusing on for the past three four hours.

00:12:21.000 Honestly, it should not be a states' rights issue.

00:12:24.000 It shouldn't be allowed at all.

00:12:25.000 It should be federally banned to cut children's dicks off. 1.00

00:12:29.000 But again, so they lost the smallest amount of ground and they're wigging out.

00:12:34.000 Because that's what the progressives in the party focus on that stuff.

00:12:40.000 the really crazy S, you know?

00:12:42.000 So until they get that straightened out, they're not going to be able to find good leadership because the leader is I think the Democratic Party is going to go the way of Bud Light.

00:12:58.000 I think you're right.

00:12:59.000 Bud Light's never recovered.

00:13:00.000 They lost a third of their market share and have stood there ever since.

00:13:04.000 You know, I know they've sponsored UFC and they've tried to turn this around, but it's just not happening.

00:13:09.000 Same thing with Target.

00:13:10.000 These companies have not recovered from when they went woke and got broke.

00:13:13.000 The DNC's brand is tarnished.

00:13:16.000 So younger people who are now entering the political space, and I don't mean 17-year-olds who are turning 18, I mean 28-year-olds who are going to be entering their 30s soon, they're now starting to get politically active, and they're like, I don't want to be associated with whatever that is. 0.97

00:13:29.000 Those people are nuts.

00:13:31.000 There's the flashy issues like the trans issue, which, of course, put people off. 0.99

00:13:35.000 And I mean, the activists pushed those.

00:13:37.000 But if you think about the most significant...

00:13:46.000 I'd say it's probably first COVID and then maybe second mass migration and then maybe third is inflation.

00:13:53.000 And all three of these can be pretty squarely laid at the feet of Democratic Party and sort of the broader managerial classes set of priorities over the past decade.

00:14:05.000 You layer on things like the trans issue.

00:14:07.000 And it's just very difficult for the party to basically navigate forward.

00:14:14.000 They basically need to come up with something that's more compelling.

00:14:17.000 It's funny, because I see bumper stickers about trans issues, but not about inflation.

00:14:22.000 Yes, yes.

00:14:23.000 Yeah, and really what this speaks to, and actually the article shows this, which is that the donors have pulled out, which means that the activists are still in control.

00:14:31.000 And that's actually a sort of a bearish signal for the Democratic Party.

00:14:34.000 And I think in a lot of ways, this is the Republicans' midterms to lose.

00:14:39.000 I think the two things that could really set them back would probably be first some sort of a war that we get entangled in, and the second would be a recession or something like that.

00:14:48.000 I mean, it's our election to lose.

00:14:50.000 I agree with you there.

00:14:51.000 I don't know that a war...

00:15:00.000 So I think the whole thing hangs on the economy.

00:15:04.000 If the economy is good, I think – not that I'm advocating for this, but I think that the American people would deal with a war with Iran just so long as we didn't have major numbers of troops on the ground. 0.96

00:15:19.000 If they had took a beachhead or took a place and there were Delta raids or whatever, like special forces raids, I think the American people would be OK with that. 0.73

00:15:28.000 I think the American people would be OK with having strikes.

00:15:31.000 That all depends on the economy. 0.99

00:15:32.000 If the economy is crap, it doesn't matter if we do anything in Iran because if the economy is crap, the Republicans are going to lose. 0.97

00:15:48.000 I mean, basically, the populist right, or populist forces in general, have shifted over into the Republican Party, into MAGA. 0.99

00:15:56.000 Well, we saw the polling with, was it Teamsters, I think?

00:15:59.000 They supported Trump, but the bosses didn't.

00:16:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:03.000 And I mean, in this case, though, I think it seemed like the bosses are now potentially shifting over into supporting, or at least their support for the Democrats is softening.

00:16:13.000 Well, yeah, I mean, when you have the Democrats go all out against tariffs, I mean, you basically swap positions between the two parties.

00:16:18.000 That's going to be a huge sticking point for union bosses. 0.98

00:16:20.000 That's right.

00:16:20.000 You would think the union bosses would be at least slightly more supportive of some of the tariffs.

00:16:25.000 I actually think we're going to start seeing a media shift as well.

00:16:27.000 Not super pronounced, but it will be trailing the political shift.

00:16:31.000 When news keeps spreading, I mean, the New York Times internally, they're seeing this.

00:16:36.000 And they're going to be asking themselves, what is our market share?

00:16:39.000 Now, the problem is...

00:16:54.000 So union bosses, it was rough.

00:16:56.000 They tried sticking with it through the 24 election, but now they're just like, okay, we're out.

00:17:00.000 This is not our central focus.

00:17:02.000 We're dealing with our internal organization and our union members and what they want and what's going to maximize the amount of money that we bring in, right?

00:17:09.000 So when you get a poll showing the Teamsters overwhelmingly are pro-Trump, you know where your market share is.

00:17:15.000 And you know if you want to keep this up and you want to make money, you know what you got to do.

00:17:19.000 The problem is, this is what happened to CNN.

00:17:23.000 CNN went insane anti-Trump.

00:17:27.000 Let's just say this.

00:17:28.000 Ten years ago, they had one million dedicated audience members who wanted the news and nothing else.

00:17:33.000 Just bring me the news.

00:17:35.000 And their numbers were high and their ratings were good because they were getting, you know, airports and hotels.

00:17:39.000 But let's just hypothetically say a million dedicated people.

00:17:43.000 So they run a story about how Donald Trump is orange and smells bad.

00:17:47.000 And the million people are going, okay, it's kind of a weird story, but they get two million views.

00:17:53.000 Their views spike because the people who hate Trump flock to watch CNN.

00:17:57.000 CNN says, wow, look how many views we're getting.

00:17:59.000 This is the path forward.

00:18:01.000 So throughout the next four years, Well, the people who just wanted news left.

00:18:09.000 They were like, I'm out.

00:18:10.000 And now, CNN's, as more people are moving away from this weird anti-Trump rhetoric, Trump is more popular than ever.

00:18:18.000 CNN's ratings go into the gutter.

00:18:19.000 Regular people have no problem turning it off and switching to something else.

00:18:23.000 CNN, however, can't just turn off that they are the orange man bad network because they have enshrined themselves.

00:18:29.000 They have built up a base of 50,000 fringe lunatic anti-Trumpers.

00:18:36.000 If they now try to reverse course, they'll lose that base and that's all they have left.

00:18:43.000 So they're backing themselves.

00:18:45.000 This is what the Democratic Party has done as a whole.

00:18:47.000 They had no policies. 1.00

00:18:49.000 The only thing they represented was Trump sucks. 0.99

00:18:52.000 One by one donors are like, it's easy for me to leave and go somewhere else. 0.98

00:18:55.000 But the Democratic politicians now have monthly giving donors.

00:19:00.000 Only thing they care about is that Trump is bad.

00:19:02.000 They can't walk away from it.

00:19:04.000 Otherwise, they'll end up with zero dollars. 0.86

00:19:05.000 You're not getting back the moderates because they think you're insane.

00:19:09.000 And now you only risk losing what wackaloons you have. 0.98

00:19:13.000 Yeah, I mean, kind of like Nathan hit on where the activists are in the driver's seat.

00:19:17.000 Certainly the case in media.

00:19:18.000 I mean, every news agency, period, is completely filled to the brim.

00:19:23.000 from the PAs all the way up to the hosts are filled with activists.

00:19:26.000 So it's like, They're concerned about doing good by their values.

00:19:39.000 You mean the legacy media companies?

00:19:41.000 legacy media yeah that's why it was so ridiculously out of touch the other day when trump kind of tried to get a dig in at tucker carlson for not having a tv network like where have you been you knew that this was the podcast election that's why you were going on podcasts like he even talked about that with theo von with joe rogan that was very much yeah Like a podcast election.

00:20:06.000 Those were where those were the places people were going to get news opinions and learn about what was going on.

00:20:16.000 And Trump knew that, so why would he change his tune overnight just because, I don't know, Tucker is criticizing him?

00:20:25.000 He just cannot take an ounce of criticism.

00:20:27.000 I do think it's strange that Tucker Carlson said the Trump administration was negotiating in good faith with Iran, but then before that also said Trump was complicit in this war before the U.S. even got involved.

00:20:40.000 That seems contradictory.

00:20:41.000 Was Trump in good faith trying to prevent a war?

00:20:44.000 That's what he said to Ted Cruz.

00:20:45.000 Or was he complicit in this war because of what Israel is doing? 0.76

00:20:48.000 I don't know.

00:20:49.000 Even what Trump is saying is self-contradictory because on one hand— You were supposed to believe that this was a unilateral strike that the U.S. was not involved in and perhaps was not even notified of.

00:21:03.000 But also we were working with them the entire time and it was all a big ruse and we were trying to make them feel like they were safe just so we could strike when they were least expecting it.

00:21:12.000 So I don't know.

00:21:19.000 That kind of stuff is fairly normal for the Trump administration.

00:21:21.000 Yeah.

00:21:22.000 He will cut the legs out of his subordinates if it serves him in the moment.

00:21:30.000 But at this point, he's even contradicting himself.

00:21:32.000 and not even just things that he said years ago, but things he said days ago.

00:21:36.000 Oh yeah, that was.

00:21:37.000 And it's ridiculous seeing like, No, I mean, you could make a more salient argument that Trump is betraying his voters.

00:21:56.000 By giving them what they expressly voted for the opposite of.

00:21:59.000 To be fair, Trump hasn't done anything.

00:22:01.000 No, he hasn't.

00:22:02.000 He's like, give me two weeks and nothing's happened.

00:22:04.000 And I'm like, I'm seeing all this fighting online and I'm like, Trump literally hasn't done anything.

00:22:07.000 Mary, it sounds like you think something's happening.

00:22:11.000 Maybe we'll see in two weeks.

00:22:13.000 Let's jump to the story from the New York Times.

00:22:16.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is with a heavy heart that I report the White House did not celebrate Juneteenth.

00:22:24.000 I still had a blessed Juneteenth.

00:22:26.000 Me too.

00:22:27.000 Me too.

00:22:28.000 Blessed Juneteenth.

00:22:29.000 I can't believe it.

00:22:30.000 What has this country come to?

00:22:32.000 Now hopefully that faux anger at Trump will get enough liberals to watch the rest of this because Juneteenth doesn't need to be celebrated at the White House. 0.93

00:22:40.000 But it's more than that.

00:22:41.000 Trump says get rid of it.

00:22:42.000 So Trump truthed.

00:22:45.000 I love that.

00:22:46.000 Too many non-working holidays in America.

00:22:48.000 It is costing our country billions of dollars to keep all these businesses closed.

00:22:53.000 The workers don't want it either.

00:22:54.000 Soon we'll end up having a holiday for every once working day of the year.

00:22:58.000 It must change if we're going to make America great again.

00:23:01.000 In other words, he's saying ban Juneteenth or stop recognizing it.

00:23:05.000 But if you're wondering why you couldn't go to the bank or the post office today, it's because we're celebrating Juneteenth.

00:23:11.000 I didn't notice that.

00:23:12.000 The top trend on Google is, quote, what is Juneteenth?

00:23:16.000 And here's what I really love about it.

00:23:19.000 There's this Newsweek article.

00:23:20.000 Kroger responds after Georgia Juneteenth cakes go viral. 1.00

00:23:25.000 So, like, how do I get this stupid TikTok? 1.00

00:23:28.000 That cake looks terrible. 1.00

00:23:29.000 Here you go.

00:23:29.000 Where's the audio?

00:23:33.000 Okay, TikTok, you're terrible. 1.00

00:23:35.000 Made of these ugly animals. 1.00

00:23:37.000 Shit. 1.00

00:23:38.000 Okay. 0.99

00:23:39.000 I wish it was a manager here because y 'all decorate everything else around here cute.

00:23:45.000 Like what? 0.53

00:23:48.000 You want to just throw something on a freaking cookie cake and expect someone to buy it? 0.96

00:23:56.000 Yes! 0.96

00:23:57.000 Look, it's free at last!

00:23:59.000 It says free, you can take it for free!

00:24:01.000 Free!

00:24:04.000 That means you don't have to pay for it, just take it!

00:24:08.000 Congratulations!

00:24:09.000 One of them just said congratulations!

00:24:13.000 This is what Abraham Lincoln envisioned.

00:24:18.000 Oh man, that's amazing.

00:24:19.000 Everything I learned about Juneteenth has been against my will.

00:24:22.000 I will say that.

00:24:23.000 I'm pro-Juneteenth. 0.99

00:24:25.000 I'm seeing a bunch of people being like, tweeting like, no, it's bad.

00:24:28.000 And I was like, we're celebrating.

00:24:31.000 I mean, if we want to be very serious, it's the union's victory.

00:24:34.000 It's the end of slavery.

00:24:35.000 We can be like, yeah, sure, why not?

00:24:37.000 But guys, today is the day that we commemorate the sacrifices of the Republican Party.

00:24:44.000 Hundreds of thousands of good Republican men died to stop the evil racist Democrats.

00:24:51.000 Did you know that even after the Civil War ended, Democrats still had slaves?

00:24:56.000 Unbelievable.

00:24:58.000 That's Juneteenth commemorates the day Union soldiers went to Texas and found a couple of Democrats that kept slaves after it was already abolished.

00:25:05.000 So I'm.

00:25:07.000 I'm...

00:25:08.000 It's a holiday where we're like the Republicans got rid of Democrat slaves. 0.84

00:25:11.000 Yeah, I think the cake story is actually illustrative of part of the problem that some people have with the holiday, which is that there's something cynical about the elevation of it during the Biden presidency.

00:25:22.000 Yeah.

00:25:23.000 I think it was the first federal holiday added since MLK Day, and somebody can check that.

00:25:28.000 But it's a part of a more consistent pattern of basically Democratic leaders who have this beholden faction here in America.

00:25:36.000 And rather than doing anything meaningful for the black community in America, And so I think, and just like the cakes, right? 0.99

00:25:46.000 There's a critique of it that it lacks substance.

00:25:49.000 And I think that that's a part of the story here.

00:25:55.000 I'll say this.

00:25:56.000 With all seriousness, the reason why there's a backlash is that it's a fake holiday.

00:26:00.000 And I'll say it again, it's a fake holiday.

00:26:02.000 Now, I know...

00:26:07.000 The point is, when you enshrine a federal holiday for a country that doesn't know what it is, it's not a real holiday in the sense that there's a cultural tradition where a nation comes together entirely as a nation to say, today is a day where we will celebrate something.

00:26:25.000 So, as Trump pointed out, if we were to find every minority faction's sacred moments, You'd have a holiday every single day.

00:26:34.000 And so the idea that the Biden administration is going to say a tenth of the population, literally 13% of the population, not even 13, it's probably less because not every black person celebrates Juneteenth.

00:26:43.000 They're going to say there's a minority population that celebrates a holiday no one in this country has ever heard of, and we're going to elevate it.

00:26:49.000 The reason why Kroger just put free on a cookie is because they don't know what it is.

00:26:54.000 What's the color scheme of Juneteenth?

00:26:56.000 There's a flag didn't be here, is there not?

00:26:58.000 I like the idea that it was actually a black employee that decorated the cookie cakes and doesn't know what Juneteenth is. 0.86

00:27:05.000 Well, the Juneteenth flag is like, what is it, green, black, and red?

00:27:09.000 Something like that.

00:27:10.000 Yeah, and African colors, yeah, but it's on the American flag.

00:27:14.000 And that's also kind of the nasty thing about No, it's red, white, and blue.

00:27:20.000 Is it really?

00:27:21.000 Yeah.

00:27:22.000 The nasty thing about Juneteenth, I think what leaves a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth, is because it kind of came at the same time when the NFL started doing the Black National Anthem.

00:27:29.000 And it really felt like there was a secondary Independence Day.

00:27:32.000 And I remember speaking to a lot of my Black friends, and they're like, we already have, and this is for everyone, Independence Day.

00:27:37.000 So adding a secondary Independence Day felt a bit redundant.

00:27:40.000 Do we have Thanksgiving flags?

00:27:43.000 No.

00:27:44.000 I want to make one.

00:27:45.000 I want to put a turkey on a flag.

00:27:47.000 That'd be nice.

00:27:47.000 Simple.

00:27:48.000 Yeah.

00:27:48.000 There you go.

00:27:49.000 But I'm just like, why is there a Juneteenth flag?

00:27:51.000 I mean, do we have other flags for holidays?

00:27:55.000 No.

00:27:56.000 There's no Christmas flag.

00:27:57.000 I haven't seen it.

00:27:58.000 Really?

00:27:58.000 There's no Christmas flag?

00:27:59.000 There's no Thanksgiving flag?

00:28:01.000 Christmas predates flags, I guess, or in some cases.

00:28:05.000 Hot Topic could make Halloween flags.

00:28:06.000 They could put Jack Skellington on it.

00:28:08.000 They could.

00:28:09.000 Jack Skellington is actually black.

00:28:10.000 You just don't know because he doesn't have skin.

00:28:12.000 It could just be the Canadian flag.

00:28:14.000 That's scary.

00:28:14.000 Arguably the July 4th is...

00:28:21.000 St. Patrick's Day, they get the Irish flag.

00:28:23.000 That's just beer, though.

00:28:25.000 It should be a federal holiday.

00:28:26.000 I need that day off.

00:28:27.000 To what you were saying, Nathan, I don't think that black Americans care about meaningful policy change that actually helps them. 0.98

00:28:34.000 They just want money.

00:28:37.000 That's 77% of them, I just checked, that support reparations.

00:28:41.000 They just want money.

00:28:43.000 And probably also holidays and lip service.

00:28:46.000 Trump did so much to try to pander with the Platinum Plan, and they don't care.

00:28:52.000 Pardon Kodak Black?

00:28:53.000 Yeah, pardoning Kodak Black.

00:28:55.000 I mean, obviously, in a democratic electoral system, all factions are looking to basically solve for what's in their interest, and what's in their interest will sort of vary from faction to faction.

00:29:10.000 And, yeah, I think there is some truth to the fact that I don't know how many people were demanding for this holiday from that faction.

00:29:16.000 I don't know.

00:29:17.000 I'm just saying the majority, the vast majority of black Americans, they just want cash. 1.00

00:29:22.000 They just want free money for being black. 1.00

00:29:34.000 Yes. 0.97

00:29:34.000 But what I would preface that with... 0.97

00:29:40.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:40.000 So when the Democrats are coming out and being like, oh, we have to give reparations, I mean, black people are going to be like, okay, give me money.

00:29:48.000 What?

00:29:49.000 Like, if you're going to come out and you're going to say it, why not?

00:29:51.000 I mean, would you accept reparations for, I don't even know.

00:29:59.000 Ancestors, yeah.

00:30:00.000 Wouldn't you feel a little bit like it was dirty money that didn't...

00:30:08.000 Maybe.

00:30:08.000 It's being stolen from taxpayers who earned it with their work?

00:30:13.000 I probably wouldn't spend it.

00:30:15.000 Like right now if I checked.

00:30:18.000 Right now if a check came in the mail, I probably wouldn't even notice and I'd just ignore it.

00:30:21.000 And would there be a holiday for that?

00:30:22.000 like the sushi cake or something.

00:30:24.000 I'm just saying, you know, if that were a real policy plan.

00:30:28.000 They did pay reparations to Japanese Americans, so.

00:30:32.000 Hey, my plan was to seize all the federal land from the Bureau of Land Management and use that to give the land to the black Americans who were owed it. 0.99

00:30:43.000 Does anybody disagree?

00:30:45.000 Why should the federal government control like 40% of the land of this country under federal regulation?

00:30:53.000 And this came up with the Bundy Ranch scenario where they were ranching for generations and the federal government came in and said, we hereby declare the land belongs to the federal government.

00:31:02.000 And then it led to the standoff.

00:31:04.000 I'm like, all that land is just owned by the federal government.

00:31:08.000 The people can't have it.

00:31:09.000 They just laid claim to it.

00:31:10.000 You can't buy it.

00:31:11.000 There's an argument in the – or going on about the Big Beautiful Bill and some, you know.

00:31:19.000 Publicly owned lands going private and doing developments, and there's some people that are really upset about that.

00:31:25.000 I mean, the concern is, like, it's not going to go to just private ranchers.

00:31:28.000 It's going to go to BlackRock.

00:31:29.000 Yeah, of course.

00:31:30.000 Bill Gates, etc., etc.

00:31:31.000 So it's like, yeah, it sounds nice to privatize this land, but it's not going to go to people that are actually going to use it.

00:31:46.000 Oh, that's good.

00:31:47.000 That's nice. 0.93

00:31:48.000 I will say, too, I grew up in Memphis, and if you know anything about Memphis, it's a very black city.

00:31:52.000 Never heard of Juneteenth in my entire life until, like, four years ago.

00:31:56.000 It all started, like, four years ago.

00:31:57.000 Yeah.

00:31:58.000 years ago.

00:31:58.000 Like 2020 was like when all...

00:32:01.000 Things started getting weird in 2012, and then 2020, things just went bonkers.

00:32:07.000 Real quick correction, that's not correct.

00:32:08.000 The original flag is this one from 97, but people do have a...

00:32:13.000 It's yellow, red...

00:32:15.000 Let me open a picture of it.

00:32:16.000 They're currently now selling this on Amazon.

00:32:20.000 And that's like Pan-African colors or whatever?

00:32:25.000 Yeah.

00:32:27.000 Change the yellow to white.

00:32:29.000 You can have the Palestinian flag.

00:32:31.000 Which is also the colors of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

00:32:34.000 What do you know?

00:32:35.000 Go figure.

00:32:36.000 Did you know that, Mary?

00:32:37.000 No.

00:32:38.000 Yeah.

00:32:38.000 What is it?

00:32:39.000 Red, green, black, and white?

00:32:42.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:32:43.000 Those are the colors of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?

00:32:45.000 Mm-hmm.

00:32:45.000 That's weird.

00:32:47.000 What, that there's colors?

00:32:48.000 No, it's those colors.

00:32:50.000 And it's the same colors as the Palestinian flag.

00:32:54.000 It's just weird.

00:32:55.000 You know.

00:32:55.000 Yeah, in the Middle East, they all cheat on each other's homework.

00:32:57.000 They all have the same flag.

00:32:58.000 They just throw a little seal on it to change it up so the teacher doesn't notice.

00:33:04.000 I guess.

00:33:06.000 Juneteenth!

00:33:07.000 All right, let's jump to this next story from CNN.

00:33:09.000 We have an update!

00:33:11.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is the craziest story.

00:33:14.000 I've seen it in a long time.

00:33:15.000 Let me just lay it down for you.

00:33:17.000 Liberals organized a massive protest, the No Kings protest.

00:33:22.000 In Utah, volunteer peacekeepers associated with the organizing group, which is called the 50501 movement, started shooting into a crowd of people and killed a guy.

00:33:36.000 Let me say this for you again.

00:33:38.000 I know that y 'all who watch this show have seen us talk about it, but for some reason, This story died instantly.

00:33:46.000 And I don't know why every single conservative isn't just coming out and freaking out about it.

00:33:51.000 Calling them out.

00:33:52.000 Let me say it again.

00:33:54.000 These are not far leftists.

00:33:55.000 These are liberal protest organizers for no kings shot and killed a guy.

00:34:01.000 And to make it crazier, the police arrested the guy they were shooting at.

00:34:06.000 This is the craziest story.

00:34:08.000 Okay.

00:34:09.000 So in Utah, there's this Antifa guy.

00:34:12.000 You're making me defend Antifa, but I will defend this guy.

00:34:15.000 He was legally carrying a rifle.

00:34:17.000 He did nothing as far as we can tell.

00:34:20.000 Maybe I'm wrong, but right now the news reports that we have in the video we've seen, he's just walking down the sidewalk, open carrying.

00:34:27.000 Two peacekeepers draw, they yell at him, and then in the video you can see before the dude even reacts to what they're saying, one of the guys opens fire, firing three rounds at this dude, missing him, and killing a random guy.

00:34:42.000 The crazy thing about this story is, the police arrested that guy, and they called him the shooter.

00:34:49.000 But now, CNN's reporting, it takes out, Utah, no kings protest, what we know about the fatal shooting.

00:34:55.000 And so this is the latest update.

00:34:57.000 Newly released video appears to show the man arrested on suspicion of murder for the death of an innocent bystander.

00:35:02.000 No kings protest was Saturday, walking away with his rifle pointing down, moments before a volunteer peacekeeper opened fire in his direction.

00:35:11.000 According to KSTU.

00:35:13.000 That's somebody's phone?

00:35:14.000 No.

00:35:15.000 The bystander, Arthur Falassa Alu, was shot and killed by a peacekeeper who was aiming for the man with the rifle, believing him to be an imminent threat.

00:35:25.000 I'm just going to say it right now.

00:35:26.000 We've talked about it with the law of self-defense, gentlemen, and Branca.

00:35:32.000 But there's imperfect self-defense, but I don't even know...

00:35:42.000 Yeah.

00:35:43.000 I don't see how you can, at least the way that it's laid out here, I don't see how you can consider anything else.

00:35:51.000 They say they ordered Gamboa to drop the weapon before one opened fire on protesters.

00:35:57.000 Witnesses reported Gamboa was holding the rifle in a firing position and running towards the protesters after being confronted by the peacekeepers.

00:36:04.000 No, I think he just grabbed it and started running away from the guys who were shooting at him for no reason.

00:36:10.000 Now, what's really crazy is this.

00:36:12.000 Panic spreads throughout the area.

00:36:14.000 Everybody runs for safety.

00:36:16.000 Peacekeeper fires three rounds, fatally wounding Alu and shooting Gamboa, who got a graze wound.

00:36:21.000 They say detectives have developed probable cause that Gamboa acted under circumstances that showed a depraved indifference to human life, knowingly engaged in conduct that created a gun.

00:36:30.000 They're covering up for the fact that liberal protest organizers shot and killed a guy.

00:36:36.000 They say he remains in custody.

00:36:37.000 So they basically point out that after the peacekeepers with the 50501 movement opened fire, people started pointing to the Antifa guy with the rifle.

00:36:47.000 So the cops arrested him.

00:36:49.000 And now I think the police are...

00:36:51.000 Helping the Democrats cover this up.

00:36:54.000 I mean, it sounds like that's the case.

00:37:00.000 It just proves the point that the No Kings protest, it really isn't a serious protest.

00:37:06.000 It's basically a pre-planned media circus and any sort of narratives that don't align with the pre-planned narrative about the No Kings protest are sidelined.

00:37:16.000 And of course, And the way it's told is somewhat biased, and this is even CNN kind of post-reform.

00:37:28.000 But, I mean, the things that should also be mentioned about the No Kings protest is, I mean, it was old pretty much everywhere where there were gatherings.

00:37:36.000 And there's just this general incompetence about the people, too, right?

00:37:40.000 I mean, just randomly firing, missing.

00:37:42.000 I mean, these people are they're basically not

00:38:07.000 you know, people have talked about abolishing various institutions and organizations, but can I just say abolish CNN?

00:38:14.000 I can say that.

00:38:15.000 And I'm going to tell you why.

00:38:16.000 Here's what they say.

00:38:17.000 New video obtained by KSTU shows a different angle of the shooting, challenging the original narrative.

00:38:24.000 Police first said witnesses reported Gamboa pointing his rifle and ran at demonstrators after peacekeepers told him to drop his weapon.

00:38:31.000 But the new video appears to show Gamboa's rifle pointing toward the ground, and he doesn't start running until after the peacekeeper fires his gun.

00:38:38.000 The video also shows Gamboa jogging along the protest route and then ducking behind a fence, a move the peacekeeper told detectives he found suspicious.

00:38:46.000 Gamboa can be seen on video through the slats on the fence, and it appears he bends down.

00:38:51.000 Police have said he removed his rifle from his backpack.

00:38:55.000 The rifle cannot be seen in this video.

00:38:57.000 CNN has not independently obtained or verified the newly released video.

00:39:02.000 It's on X. You can just...

00:39:09.000 There's numerous videos.

00:39:11.000 They've zoomed in.

00:39:12.000 They've edited it.

00:39:13.000 It is wild for CNN to be like, a week later, we still haven't watched the video that's been on X for a week.

00:39:19.000 Might be AI, though.

00:39:20.000 Sure. 0.96

00:39:21.000 But think about the type of lunatic you have to be to volunteer as a peacekeeper at the No Kings protest. 0.97

00:39:30.000 Like, these are people who are George Zimmerman on steroids. 0.96

00:39:34.000 Like, overly eager. 0.97

00:39:36.000 I mean, they're crazy.

00:39:38.000 Like, they probably wanted to end up in an altercation like that.

00:39:42.000 Well, yeah, that's the problem with these protests is that it's the highest congregation of people with, like, low impulse control and emotionality in America.

00:39:50.000 So they're fired up.

00:39:51.000 They're bored.

00:39:52.000 They're bored and they just want to get out.

00:39:54.000 They're just waiting.

00:39:55.000 There's adrenaline pumping.

00:39:56.000 They're just like, oh, there's a Nazi.

00:39:57.000 and get them.

00:40:00.000 You're going to get a situation like this that was inevitable.

00:40:02.000 I was actually kind of surprised it took so long.

00:40:04.000 They've raised $415,000 on GoFundMe for this guy.

00:40:08.000 And I say, okay.

00:40:09.000 He's a poor guy, dude.

00:40:10.000 He's just walking down the street, minding his own business, and some liberal dude with an itchy finger just opens fire.

00:40:19.000 No, no.

00:40:20.000 This is a random guy.

00:40:21.000 He's just walking down the street.

00:40:21.000 You mean the guy that was shot?

00:40:23.000 This is the guy who was shot and killed.

00:40:24.000 Not the guy who was missed.

00:40:26.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 So the Antifa guy got grazed.

00:40:28.000 They both got hit.

00:40:29.000 But he got grazed when this guy got shot and killed.

00:40:31.000 Mm-hmm.

00:40:32.000 Yep.

00:40:34.000 Unbelievable.

00:40:35.000 Here's my question.

00:40:36.000 Why aren't conservatives talking about it?

00:40:39.000 I'm just going to say this.

00:40:40.000 I'm surprised conservatives are as far as they've gotten in the culture war.

00:40:44.000 Seriously.

00:40:45.000 Like, the left makes these videos.

00:40:48.000 You know what?

00:40:49.000 Never mind.

00:40:49.000 I'm wrong about everything.

00:40:50.000 Conservatives are winning.

00:40:51.000 Okay?

00:40:52.000 Keep doing it.

00:40:53.000 I guess. 0.96

00:40:54.000 We start to make some progress and then Elon Musk drops, like, by the way, the president should be impeached and he's a pedophile. 0.83

00:40:58.000 So it's like, anytime you actually make some progress, it just turns into just eating your own. 0.55

00:41:03.000 One step forward, two steps back.

00:41:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:06.000 So it's like, that's just our tendency.

00:41:07.000 It's like crabs in a pot.

00:41:09.000 So it's like, yeah, we could seize on this, but there's a great battle going on on Twitter that I got to get involved in.

00:41:15.000 Well, what is it that the Republicans are mostly paying attention to now?

00:41:17.000 It's Israel and Iran. 0.99

00:41:20.000 And it's dividing the right.

00:41:21.000 Yeah.

00:41:22.000 Yeah.

00:41:23.000 Hilariously.

00:41:24.000 Yeah, it seems to me right now, at least, that just a week or two ago we had this divide between the populist right and the tech right that was emerging over this feud between Elon and Trump.

00:41:35.000 But that's almost completely forgotten at this point.

00:41:38.000 And now the fight is between the isolationists and the neocons.

00:41:43.000 And the question is, will this be as easily resolved?

00:41:48.000 Because unless Trump can find some sort of a middle path, And so I think that the risk here from a coalitional perspective is maybe even more significant than the divide that we saw between Trump and Elon.

00:42:04.000 Do you think that Iran can do it without the United States' help?

00:42:07.000 Do you think Iran can do it without Israel? 0.99

00:42:08.000 I'm sorry.

00:42:09.000 Israel can take care of Iran without the U.S. help?

00:42:12.000 I think that Israel has currently, I mean, Israel has started the war.

00:42:17.000 Because they claim to be able to do it.

00:42:18.000 Israel currently, I think, has an asymmetry in terms of the technology and the military capabilities that it has versus Iran.

00:42:24.000 And so I think it's possible that they could do it themselves.

00:42:27.000 I think if the U.S. were not defending Israel, they'd probably be in serious trouble.

00:42:32.000 And there's questions, we talked about this the other night, but I was watching more again on Fox, that Israel's starting to run out of interceptors.

00:42:40.000 We'll see where that goes.

00:42:41.000 But in regards to, I guess, the coalition and the left and what conservatives are paying attention to, you know, maybe what ends up happening to the Democratic Party is that it really does turn into moderate MAGA versus conservative MAGA or something.

00:42:56.000 What do you mean by that?

00:42:59.000 You're going to have – there's going to be moderate neocon and disaffected liberal types.

00:43:07.000 And then you're going to have the staunch conservative anti-war.

00:43:10.000 Like, basically the left is excised in its entirety.

00:43:13.000 And you're going to start seeing liberals becoming disaffected with the Democratic Party, as we are, joining the Republicans, which will create a new left-right dichotomy where you have the left wing of the Republican Party and the right wing of the Republican Party, and that sets the tone for the new political landscape.

00:43:29.000 I mean, you already kind of see it with the Tucker Cruz interview where you're seeing people on the left like, I hate to say it, but Tucker's a great, you know, he did a great interview here, I gotta take his side.

00:43:38.000 So it's like, yeah, we're already kind of seeing the left filter into the right's positions on these issues.

00:43:43.000 And yeah, there could be a point in the next few years at this rate where, yeah, they're just completely out of the picture and they have to take sides with the current Republican dichotomy.

00:43:51.000 Here's a story from Mediaites.

00:43:53.000 Trump ally Laura Loomer escalates MAGA civil war with wild claim. 0.88

00:43:58.000 Tucker is controlled by Muslims. 1.00

00:44:01.000 So it's getting spicy. 0.68

00:44:05.000 And you've got this, what do they say?

00:44:08.000 The Washington Examiner's Robert Schmad reported on Qatar's big dollar efforts in May, writing perhaps Qatar's biggest victory in the post-election right-wing media campaign thus far was securing an interview between Tucker Carlson and Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani in March.

00:44:22.000 The interview, which has racked up nearly six million views across X and YouTube, was friendly, with Carlson praising the country.

00:44:28.000 Schmad added, Foreign Agent Registration Act records show that Lumen8 Advisors, LLC, a legal consulting company for which very little public information is available, helped facilitate between Carlson and the Qatari dignitary.

00:44:43.000 The embassy of the state of Cutter pays Lumen8 Advisors $180,000 per month to provide media and communication coaching and consulting services.

00:44:52.000 Loomer took that report a step further, claiming Carlson's interview with PM Altani was a paid propaganda piece in which over $200,000 was paid by the embassy of the state of Qatar for Tucker to the interview.

00:45:02.000 A Qatari official, all while knowing Hamas is an Iranian proxy and funded by Qatar.

00:45:08.000 Loomer basically laid out that Tucker was getting this money.

00:45:14.000 Tucker's in an interview with Steve Bannon saying he was never paid, and she said he was a liar and then showed this.

00:45:20.000 The insinuation, of course, is that Tucker was given $200,000, but this has been the narrative that's emerging largely not just from Laura Loomer, but from many that are pro-Israel and critical of those who are Israel critical.

00:45:37.000 I think when you look at this, you can see there's a foreign lobbying group.

00:45:40.000 Probably reached out to Tucker and said, how can we make this happen?

00:45:43.000 But Laura did make a good point. 0.84

00:45:45.000 Who's paying all the travel and production costs?

00:45:48.000 Is there any of that going on?

00:45:50.000 Because what is the point of hiring a FARA lobbying firm to facilitate an interview?

00:45:56.000 You wouldn't need to do it.

00:45:57.000 You'd simply just – you're a government.

00:46:00.000 You reach out to the agency or the network and you say, we'd like to sit down with Tucker Carlson.

00:46:05.000 So what did Luminate actually do in exchange for this money?

00:46:10.000 Interesting question.

00:46:11.000 I will also add, come on, look, I get people, like, tweeting at me, like Elijah Schaefer, he tweeted at me, because Theo Vaughn went to Qatar and then comes back and then says he thinks Israel's committing a genocide.

00:46:25.000 I point that out and then get accused of claiming he's getting paid by Qatar to do so.

00:46:29.000 Well, no, but I mean, what was his trip?

00:46:32.000 What access was he given?

00:46:33.000 It's right there.

00:46:36.000 I don't know if anything's going on with Qatar funding or paying anybody or anything like that, but this is the current divide right now with a threat of war.

00:46:43.000 You have this narrative now going more mainstream, particularly with Laura Loomer, that Qatar is paying a bunch of conservatives to be anti-Israel.

00:46:52.000 I mean, does she have evidence of any of that stuff, or is she just throwing accusations? 0.76

00:46:59.000 I think everybody's just throwing accusations.

00:47:01.000 But to be fair, paid?

00:47:08.000 They'll say, Cutter paid $200,000 for an interview with Tucker Carlson, not to Tucker Carlson for an interview.

00:47:17.000 So, look, we do stage shows, and we have a media company that comes in and sets up all the cameras and does all the work, and we pay for that.

00:47:26.000 So if someone said, Tim Pool paid X amount of dollars for an interview with Insert Celebrity, it's like, no, no, no, that was a production company.

00:47:33.000 But that's how you can use weasel words to make it seem like that.

00:47:36.000 However, evidence, not proof.

00:47:39.000 I mean, Theovan did go to Qatar, and he's got that video of him wearing the local garb or whatever, and then he comes back and says, Israel's coming to genocide.

00:47:50.000 It was a really wishy-washy statement.

00:47:51.000 It was non-committal, and now he's very much in the anti-intervention camp.

00:47:55.000 I'm not saying he's being paid.

00:47:57.000 And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with going to a country and then being convinced of something.

00:48:00.000 I'm just saying like – Yeah.

00:48:06.000 It's weird how she's paying this.

00:48:09.000 You can't come to Tucker's conclusion unless you're being paid by a foreign government.

00:48:13.000 The conclusion that we shouldn't go to war with Iran.

00:48:15.000 Only someone crazy could come up with that, so they must have paid him. 0.63

00:48:18.000 It's kind of a crazy implication.

00:48:21.000 I mean, sort of.

00:48:21.000 that's kind of standard stuff when it comes to this topic.

00:48:26.000 Like if you disagree with someone, One of the things that people default to when you say, well, no, I don't agree because of this.

00:48:44.000 If you see the things that I see and you don't come to the conclusion that I come to, then you must be doing it because you're paid.

00:48:53.000 That happens all the time with both Qatar and with Israel.

00:48:58.000 The foreign trips are interesting.

00:49:01.000 I mean, in the election season, right, it came up that Tim Walts had been to China 30 times or something like that.

00:49:06.000 And so I do think whenever there's these sorts of foreign trips, I think there should be questions asked of public figures in general.

00:49:19.000 But yeah, the Qatar thing here, it doesn't seem like there's a ton that's substantiated, at least at this point.

00:49:26.000 I do think it's interesting that there's a lot of personalities that have, in the past couple of years, maybe even the past year or so, gone very heavy anti-Israel very quickly.

00:49:39.000 I mean, it does feel like it's a bit of a, it's like the edgy, it's like a containment breach.

00:49:45.000 Because, like, this next generation of political pundits are just completely allergic to any foreign intervention in the Middle East, rightfully so, because it's been such a disaster.

00:49:54.000 And, yeah, obviously going to ask questions of what were the incentives for us to go into the Middle East.

00:49:59.000 But at the same time, when they just completely fixate on Israel.

00:50:04.000 Yeah, you do start to ask questions like, well, it's weird that they did visit countries that are extremely adversarial to Israel, and then they walk away with this new agenda.

00:50:12.000 That being said, on the flip side, if you watch the interview with Ted Cruz, I mean, Tucker wasn't picking on Israel.

00:50:18.000 He was just saying, let's not go to war with Iran.

00:50:20.000 He was picking on Ted Cruz.

00:50:22.000 Yeah, it was literally a struggle session.

00:50:25.000 And like Ted Cruz is like, he's generally very good in interviews, even combative interviews.

00:50:30.000 So it was like, you know that it was totally like just at like, No, he felt like he took a knife in the side.

00:50:44.000 And I got a question for you guys, because there was one exchange that I thought was really weird, and that was the issue of the Bible says, you know, blessed are those who bless Israel and cursed are those who curse Israel.

00:50:55.000 And Tucker's point was, the Bible doesn't literally mean the current political state of Israel, does it?

00:51:00.000 And Ted Cruz said yes.

00:51:02.000 Is that the case?

00:51:03.000 I'm not a Christian, so I don't know.

00:51:04.000 I mean, yeah, I'm a Christian and you could go into all the theology, but the divide is dispensationalism versus covenant theology.

00:51:10.000 And a lot of evangelicals subscribe to dispensationalism, which is every promise that God made to Israel is literal.

00:51:16.000 He is talking about the current state of Israel.

00:51:19.000 And people that subscribe to covenant theology say, well, when Paul addresses the church and calls them Israel in the New Testament in 1 Corinthians, he's saying that the church has basically absorbed all of the promises made to Israel.

00:51:33.000 So it's a big divide in the church.

00:51:34.000 But what's driving the Christian Zionism movement is that dispensational interpretation of the Old Testament theology.

00:51:42.000 covenants.

00:51:43.000 But this is still a different argument.

00:51:44.000 Well, I mean...

00:51:51.000 It's because he has a dispensational theology.

00:51:53.000 He's saying, no, it says right there, it's Israel.

00:51:56.000 And then someone describes the covenant theology, says, no, Christians replaced Israel.

00:52:00.000 We are now Israel.

00:52:01.000 Those promises apply to the Church.

00:52:02.000 Is that what you think Tucker is saying when he brings that up?

00:52:04.000 Yeah, Tucker subscribes to covenant theology.

00:52:06.000 I think he's an Episcopalian.

00:52:08.000 And he actually did a whole podcast with a theologian about covenant theology and dispensationalism.

00:52:12.000 It's a big divide in the Church.

00:52:14.000 It typically divides Reformed Protestants to Evangelical Protestants.

00:52:18.000 It's mainly because Protestants just look at the Bible and decide what they want it to mean.

00:52:23.000 All right.

00:52:24.000 Relax.

00:52:25.000 We don't need a debate.

00:52:26.000 We'll save that for culture war. 0.97

00:52:28.000 Well, there's a lot of Catholics that have dispensational theology.

00:52:31.000 That's true, too.

00:52:32.000 So it's a theological divide that crosses sex, so to speak. 0.64

00:52:38.000 I didn't know that.

00:52:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:41.000 Dispensationalism.

00:52:42.000 It's very common in megachurches, like your Joel Osteen types.

00:52:45.000 They're very big on it because it's very literal.

00:52:47.000 It's like there's a verse where it says like, oh, God is going to, you know, you can build up treasures in heaven.

00:52:53.000 So they're like, treasures?

00:52:54.000 That must mean money.

00:52:55.000 How do I get richer?

00:52:56.000 Maybe I should go to Joel Osteen's church.

00:52:58.000 It's like, meanwhile, Jesus is like, by the way, if you follow me, you're going to get poor.

00:53:01.000 That's just kind of how this works.

00:53:03.000 But they kind of, you know, stiff-armed that.

00:53:06.000 Yeah, it's a big problem.

00:53:07.000 Yeah, what's it called?

00:53:10.000 When they say, if you do this, you'll get money.

00:53:12.000 Prosperity gospel.

00:53:13.000 That's it, prosperity gospel.

00:53:14.000 You'll get money?

00:53:15.000 Yeah, prosperity.

00:53:16.000 I like that one.

00:53:16.000 It's a very uniquely American Christianity, too, because it blends what makes America great with what makes Christianity great, and the result is something very nasty and awful.

00:53:26.000 It's a type of Protestant. 0.89

00:53:28.000 Protestantism.

00:53:29.000 I mean, it's kind of gyrated out of Protestantism.

00:53:33.000 It's non-denominationalism, and it's in the name, non-denominational.

00:53:37.000 They're not part of a denomination.

00:53:38.000 It's just kind of a free-for-all.

00:53:39.000 And the pastor gets up and he gives a TED Talk, and they play rock songs.

00:53:43.000 And nothing there resembles church.

00:53:45.000 It kind of resembles Lollapalooza a little more.

00:53:49.000 It's a big disaster.

00:53:51.000 How are you feeling, Mary?

00:53:53.000 I mean, yeah, you know.

00:53:55.000 You know how I feel about that.

00:53:56.000 I'm just watching and just squirming.

00:53:59.000 Just like, ugh, God.

00:53:59.000 Shiver me timbers.

00:54:01.000 These heathens.

00:54:03.000 But somehow you, if you're Ted Cruz, you extrapolate from that that you should take money from APAC.

00:54:10.000 Yeah.

00:54:11.000 That's literally how it works.

00:54:13.000 How much is he taking from APAC?

00:54:14.000 Christians are the chosen people.

00:54:16.000 It's true.

00:54:17.000 Fact check true.

00:54:18.000 Read 1 Corinthians.

00:54:20.000 It says very explicitly.

00:54:21.000 Does it really?

00:54:22.000 Yeah, it says specifically the church has been grafted into Israel.

00:54:27.000 Ah, okay.

00:54:28.000 So, not the current 1947 UN Charter.

00:54:31.000 That's why Christians don't follow the old law. 1.00

00:54:34.000 I mean, yeah, I don't want to mix linen with wool or whatever. 0.98

00:54:38.000 You go to hell for that.

00:54:39.000 Yeah, it's not the most, like, stereotypical. 1.00

00:54:48.000 I don't even know how to respond to something so stupid. 0.99

00:54:50.000 If God is good, why does bad thing happen? 1.00

00:54:53.000 That's definitely the top rebuttal.

00:54:56.000 That's the one that I want answered most.

00:54:59.000 That would be a two-hour-long podcast, probably.

00:55:02.000 That has to be a culture war episode.

00:55:04.000 I guess the problem is you're approaching from good faith.

00:55:06.000 Typically people that ask that question are approaching from bad faith like it's some gotcha.

00:55:09.000 It's like, oh wow.

00:55:10.000 It's just the left doing it then.

00:55:11.000 What are you, Richard Dawkins?

00:55:12.000 Yeah, you're a genius.

00:55:13.000 I figured it out.

00:55:14.000 What'd you do?

00:55:15.000 Yo, Ted Cruz is wrong.

00:55:17.000 Okay?

00:55:18.000 Israel's right here. 0.93

00:55:19.000 Look.

00:55:20.000 See this?

00:55:22.000 Israel? 0.53

00:55:23.000 Is this somewhere in middle America?

00:55:26.000 Israel's right here. 0.93

00:55:27.000 And if we're going to be literal, Then this is like three hours away from us.

00:55:34.000 That's why when the war broke out and they're like, Palestine's getting bombed, I was like, didn't they just have a chemical spill? 0.98

00:55:39.000 They're going through a lot over there in East Palestine.

00:55:42.000 If we're going to take it literally, then does that include Israel, West Virginia?

00:55:46.000 I'd say Americans are the chosen people.

00:55:48.000 Oh, wait.

00:55:49.000 What is it called?

00:55:50.000 Dispensationalism?

00:55:51.000 Dispensationalism, yeah.

00:55:53.000 It's a literal reference to the people of Israel, and so that includes today.

00:55:58.000 Then there's going to be a subset of that, which would mean, right, because they're obviously going to make the argument that, no, no, obviously the Jewish people are the people of Israel, and that's where they were, and that's where they are, so that counts, right?

00:56:09.000 So there's going to be a subset where it says, no, no, it literally means Israel, but...

00:56:15.000 It's true.

00:56:16.000 There used to be, like, up until the 1950s, I even had relatives that were involved in this movement.

00:56:21.000 It was called British Israelism, and they basically believed that the inhabitants of the British Isles were a lost tribe that migrated there.

00:56:28.000 And it was actually, like, not ubiquitous, but it had a lot of people that adhered to that in America and England and Canada.

00:56:35.000 So it's like the black Israelite movement for British people?

00:56:37.000 Yeah, literally.

00:56:38.000 And it was a big thing.

00:56:40.000 It drove a lot of, like, Freemason ideas.

00:56:42.000 I wouldn't be surprised if a few founding fathers identified with British Israelism.

00:56:46.000 It was a really big, really big movement.

00:56:50.000 Yeah, so I would make the argument that West Virginia is actually the holy land.

00:56:54.000 I mean, there's a good argument for that.

00:56:55.000 West Virginia.

00:56:57.000 That's why I'd take me home.

00:56:59.000 I mean, do they have cookout in Jerusalem?

00:57:00.000 I don't think so.

00:57:01.000 Doesn't sound very holy to me.

00:57:04.000 I mean, I imagine they do.

00:57:05.000 They have nicer weather in Jerusalem, don't they?

00:57:07.000 I've been there a few times, yeah.

00:57:10.000 Kind of dry like California.

00:57:12.000 Oh, you've been to Jerusalem?

00:57:13.000 Does that mean you're being paid by Israel?

00:57:15.000 That's true, yeah.

00:57:16.000 Any take that I have is actually fed to me by...

00:57:21.000 If you've been to a country, you're clearly getting paid by their government.

00:57:24.000 I've also been to Qatar, so I'm actually kind of in the middle.

00:57:26.000 I've been to China, so I'm a CCP shill. 0.62

00:57:28.000 You've been to China?

00:57:29.000 Yeah.

00:57:30.000 I didn't know that either.

00:57:31.000 I won't elaborate.

00:57:32.000 So maybe I can be the mediator between Loomer and Tucker.

00:57:35.000 Like, guys, I've been to both.

00:57:36.000 I'm getting paid by both.

00:57:37.000 Let's come together here.

00:57:39.000 Perfect.

00:57:40.000 I think you should try.

00:57:41.000 Let's jump to the story, ladies and gentlemen.

00:57:42.000 Actual news.

00:57:44.000 Breaking.

00:57:44.000 Trump will make decision over next step in Iran within the next two weeks.

00:57:50.000 Now, what's going on with the next two weeks?

00:57:52.000 Why does he need that much time?

00:57:53.000 Okay, well, well, the White House says it could take a couple of weeks for Iran to produce a nuclear weapon.

00:57:59.000 So Trump is basically saying, like, maybe we'll sit back and wait to see if they get a nuclear weapon.

00:58:10.000 So maybe Trump was just sitting there and they were like, we need the Nimitz in the region for security purposes.

00:58:14.000 If you make a move now, you know, we're going to be lacking.

00:58:17.000 So why don't we just wait?

00:58:18.000 And he's like, OK, let's maybe the actually in all seriousness, the scary thing is maybe the whole negotiating play where he's like, I want to negotiate is to hold off Iran for the time being so that we can mobilize our military effectively. 0.71

00:58:32.000 I mean, maybe.

00:58:33.000 I just don't...

00:58:42.000 If they're, you know, if they're like, oh, we have to move more assets into position, then it's not just, you know, B2s with 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs, right?

00:58:53.000 This is moving significantly more manpower into the area if they're waiting for a hold.

00:59:01.000 There's two there now, if I understand correctly, and they're waiting for a third.

00:59:05.000 That's a lot.

00:59:07.000 Well, it tracks Trump's negotiation strategy, which is maximum pressure.

00:59:11.000 I mean, if anyone read the art of the deal, you'd know what's going on.

00:59:13.000 No, I mean, the point being, I'm totally down with that kind of posture.

00:59:20.000 But if it was only going to be just a strike to take out the...

00:59:29.000 this one installation or whatever, you wouldn't need three carrier groups.

00:59:33.000 And I don't know that...

00:59:35.000 Two of them are in the Eastern Mediterranean, so that's more of a defensive posture.

00:59:39.000 But moving this carrier strike group...

00:59:43.000 I think one is in the Red Sea, one is in the eastern Mediterranean.

00:59:46.000 Regardless, it's still a lot of distance from Iran.

00:59:50.000 But this third carrier strike group is positioning in a bit more of an offensive posture.

00:59:56.000 So yeah, we're basically just ratcheting up the pressure on Iran. 0.54

00:59:59.000 Tim, what do you think?

01:00:02.000 Does anything ever happen?

01:00:04.000 That's not a question for me.

01:00:05.000 It's a question for Mary.

01:00:06.000 Mary, does anything ever happen?

01:00:07.000 The answer is no.

01:00:08.000 It's always going to be no.

01:00:10.000 So then there's not going to be a strike or there isn't.

01:00:12.000 That's no strike, right?

01:00:14.000 No strike.

01:00:15.000 No, we'll check back in two weeks.

01:00:17.000 No strike.

01:00:19.000 I think in the long run Israel loses. 0.82

01:00:21.000 I hope nothing happens.

01:00:22.000 I hope we all hope.

01:00:23.000 You said you think Israel loses.

01:00:24.000 Yeah, I think Israel's... 1.00

01:00:34.000 And what I mean by that is, let's say you're looking at your bank account and you got $10,000 in it.

01:00:39.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:40.000 Like, I got $10,000 in my bank account.

01:00:41.000 And then you look at your monthly liabilities and it's $1,730 and your income is only $750. 0.96

01:00:51.000 You're going to be like, oh crap.

01:00:53.000 I only got a few months left before I go negative. 0.96

01:00:57.000 That's what I see with the situation with Israel and the reason why I think that they want to do this attack now. 0.99

01:01:02.000 I don't know that it has anything necessarily to do with nuclear weapons.

01:01:05.000 They claim it does, but there's another thing to consider in that sentiment for Israel is rapidly declining.

01:01:10.000 Rapidly.

01:01:11.000 And they seem completely incapable of doing anything about it. 0.96

01:01:15.000 Their marketing, their PR, and their efforts are so pathetic that I'm just like, Okay, in 10 years, the U.S. will completely cut off Israel. 0.95

01:01:24.000 The right is largely, we shouldn't be funding Israel, Israel is going to do what they want. 0.99

01:01:31.000 The left hates Israel.

01:01:34.000 And then you've got a component on the right that hates Israel, too.

01:01:35.000 So I'm looking at the math, and I'm just like...

01:01:40.000 This is bad news for them.

01:01:42.000 They're making this move on around now because if they wait any longer, the U.S. is going to cut them off and then they can't.

01:01:47.000 So they have no choice.

01:01:48.000 Yeah, their political capital has an expiration date.

01:01:50.000 And then also within internal politics in Israel, Netanyahu is on the hot seat right now.

01:01:55.000 He's outflanked to the right.

01:01:56.000 He's outflanked to the left.

01:01:57.000 They have a huge demographic crisis because the Hasidic population triples every 10 years.

01:02:02.000 So they're going to have a situation in 30 years where they're going to like have serious demands for a much more theocratic government.

01:02:09.000 Right now, they kind of the secular government.

01:02:10.000 So, yeah, like you said, I mean, they have.

01:02:13.000 limited amount of political capital and that political capital has an expiration date on it that is rapidly approaching i think what you're good no no good i think what you're seeing on the right today at least is that more and more people though are asking that any intervention could be explicitly tied back to some sort of a cost benefit analysis for american citizens right and so and so if that's if that's what you're solving for is for what's in the best interest for the prosperity and security of american citizens then

01:02:42.000 you know there's sort of a spectrum of basically potential different pathways you could go down and the base case for the united states is something like no intervention and then there's a there's a there's a sliding scale basically where there's some negotiations and then there's some aid arms you go all the way down to boots on the ground or regime change etc etc and i think increasingly on the right

01:03:09.000 And I think what makes this challenging is we have people like Lindsey Graham, for example, who very recently basically made the claim, I believe this was on Twitter, where he said, first, Iran will get nukes, they'll nuke Israel, and then they'll nuke America.

01:03:27.000 And really what that's doing is in the base case scenario, in the no intervention side, he's elevating the perceived cost of no intervention, basically.

01:03:34.000 But what I would argue is people on the right have been sort of gaslit on this issue a number of times.

01:03:39.000 If you think about Lindsey Graham specifically said the exact same thing about Putin, where he said first Putin would go into Ukraine, then he'd take Europe, and then he would land on America's shores.

01:03:48.000 And in my case, I'm not a specific Israel-Iran expert, right?

01:03:53.000 I don't actually know what the exact chances are that Iran will nuke New Jersey.

01:03:57.000 But, you know, Lindsey Graham already played those cards when he claimed that Putin was going to do an amphibious assault on Connecticut, which was never reasonable.

01:04:09.000 And so I think then you add in also around.

01:04:14.000 And I think people on the right are—it's reasonable to be skeptical when these people sort of bang the same sets of arguments.

01:04:21.000 Now, it might be that we need to—there might need to be some aid or negotiations or things like this that would end up being in the best interest of Americans.

01:04:29.000 But it's really important that we fixate on American citizen interests as the core thing we're solving for here.

01:04:36.000 I was just thinking about how we were talking before about Qatar.

01:04:41.000 The accusations that they're funding all this influential operation, you know, Israel's got money.

01:04:46.000 Why wouldn't they be doing the same thing?

01:04:47.000 So if it is the case that Qatar is funding a bunch of sentiment opposed to Israel, and, you know, we do know that, like, Al Jazeera Plus was super woke.

01:04:58.000 The issue is, why isn't Israel doing the same thing?

01:05:03.000 And more importantly, why aren't they winning?

01:05:05.000 Let's look at it this way.

01:05:06.000 Let's say that there's a bunch of foreign adversaries that are flooding U.S. social media.

01:05:10.000 This is the more legitimate accusation, in my opinion, that you've got people in, say, Pakistan.

01:05:16.000 They create social media accounts where they masquerade as Americans and then will spam blast people's feeds.

01:05:22.000 And this is like one guy.

01:05:24.000 It's like literally not a campaign.

01:05:25.000 It's literally a guy in Pakistan.

01:05:27.000 And he's like, I'm an American.

01:05:29.000 this is largely why many people have called for Elon to create a nation filter so we can Let's look at it this way.

01:05:35.000 From Americans. 0.95

01:05:36.000 And then I tweeted something similar.

01:05:39.000 Why aren't the Western powers that support Israel doing the exact same thing with sock puppets? 0.52

01:05:43.000 Why aren't they creating a counter narrative that Israel is the victim, that Israel should win? 0.95

01:05:48.000 How is it that Israel is losing the PR game?

01:05:50.000 Well, how do you know they're not? 1.00

01:05:53.000 Well, okay, then the reality is they're weak and pathetic. 0.95

01:05:57.000 Well, I think they're also dependent on the goodwill of previous generations where it was kind of a consensus, especially among like political wonks, that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East we have to support this. 0.97

01:06:08.000 And it was a given.

01:06:08.000 So I don't even know if they had a media apparatus to whirl up in time for a situation like this where within 10 years the wind completely blew the.

01:06:20.000 Right.

01:06:21.000 They did it in the Arab Spring. 0.97

01:06:22.000 So there's no...

01:06:26.000 If there's a bunch of countries that hate Israel and their citizens are spam-blasting social media saying, like, don't support Israel, where are the individuals who support Israel to counter that message?

01:06:38.000 They don't seem to exist.

01:06:38.000 Well, yeah, I mean, you definitely see the, what are they, the fellas on Twitter, the little dogs that are supporting Ukraine.

01:06:49.000 And you really don't see a similar...

01:06:57.000 There are certainly a lot of prominent personalities that are pro-Israel.

01:07:00.000 There's a lot of politicians.

01:07:01.000 They're not the same kind of sock puppets that you're talking about.

01:07:03.000 I'm talking about grassroots.

01:07:05.000 And whether real or fake, I don't care.

01:07:08.000 I'm saying Israel and its allies and the West are incapable of countering the narrative that has emerged around Gaza and Israel.

01:07:19.000 Incapable.

01:07:20.000 I think it's a good point.

01:07:21.000 I think there is sort of this pincer move where both the left and the right, their sentiment on this issue is shifting.

01:07:28.000 I mean, I think you've pulled it up on one of the streams earlier this week.

01:07:31.000 I mean, if you pull up the data just over the past decade alone, you don't even need to look over multiple decades.

01:07:37.000 It's been a rapid shift.

01:07:38.000 Why doesn't Israel just use their connections in government to get anybody critical of Israel banned?

01:07:42.000 Why doesn't Israel have people Well, like Hassan. 1.00

01:07:49.000 Why doesn't Israel just get Hassan Piker banned? 0.83

01:07:52.000 I don't know.

01:07:53.000 I think that maybe the alternative to sock puppetry in favor of Israel is fomenting a message on the right that you shouldn't care about this conflict and that you shouldn't talk about it.

01:08:07.000 And that's something, that's a sentiment I've seen on the timeline in the past week especially.

01:08:13.000 So here's like a good example.

01:08:15.000 Lurch685 says, why isn't Israel doing advocacy?

01:08:17.000 WTF is PragerU then.

01:08:19.000 So if you lack the understanding of the point I'm making, let me try and help you out.

01:08:24.000 There are run-of-the-mill accounts, not big organizations at a grassroots level, that all over X are saying Israel bad.

01:08:35.000 And perhaps it's because Israel bad. 0.96

01:08:37.000 I'm not arguing that.

01:08:39.000 There is not the inverse.

01:08:41.000 There are some people who do it, but it's nowhere near the volume.

01:08:44.000 And so my question is, why isn't Israel engaged in this kind of manipulation? 0.74

01:08:49.000 Why aren't Western nations engaged in this PR campaign, whether real or fake?

01:08:54.000 Whatever.

01:08:55.000 My point is, online sentiment right now, whether it's from Americans or otherwise, what you see when you go on X is Israel bad. 0.76

01:09:02.000 You do see some people saying, yay, Israel, but they're usually ineffective messaging, and they're not – There's not that many of them.

01:09:13.000 That's why I'm saying the majority of the messaging I'm seeing from prominent right-wing figures is not Israel bad or Israel good.

01:09:19.000 It's you shouldn't care or pay attention to this issue because it doesn't concern you as an American, which is false.

01:09:26.000 That's most of what I've been saying.

01:09:28.000 And I don't think that that's necessarily people getting paid to say that, but the trickle-down effect is like that is the message that's getting echoed throughout.

01:09:39.000 Do you think that Ukraine had the grassroots support here in the United States, or was it mostly...

01:09:46.000 It did?

01:09:46.000 This is another point.

01:09:47.000 This is what I'm trying to make.

01:09:48.000 You can see random libs all over X with Ukrainian flags.

01:09:53.000 That's true.

01:09:54.000 And they will spam you into oblivion.

01:09:56.000 And not only that, I mean, look at the flack that I got when I said, okay, so the story is – There were three Ukrainians accused of bombing the Nord Stream pipeline.

01:10:08.000 They did it to force the West and Russia into a war to their benefit, which I would say is a criminal action against a NATO ally.

01:10:17.000 And I said, that makes Ukraine an enemy of this country.

01:10:20.000 Germany issued the arrest warrant. 0.99

01:10:22.000 Holy crap. 0.98

01:10:24.000 The spam that I had to deal with was insane. 0.99

01:10:31.000 Every hour is 100 plus.

01:10:33.000 I'm getting death threats.

01:10:35.000 Jordan Klepper on The Daily Show did a segment about it like a year later.

01:10:41.000 And it's like an ongoing talking point where Tim was paid by Russia.

01:10:45.000 Wow.

01:10:46.000 Nothing like that for Israel. 0.97

01:10:48.000 Nothing.

01:10:50.000 What I'm trying to say is it might be more effective for them to encourage Americans not to consider this issue.

01:10:58.000 You're saying Israel is advocating people not care about Israel?

01:11:02.000 I'm just saying it would be more effective for them to spread that message.

01:11:05.000 Is them Israel? 0.70

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:08.000 So, okay, this is not an argument.

01:11:10.000 It would be more effective to encourage people on the right to just say, you know, trust Trump.

01:11:15.000 He's going to do the right thing no matter what.

01:11:19.000 Disagree.

01:11:20.000 Prominent conservatives who a few years ago had no opinion on Israel have now been getting millions of views saying Israel is evil.

01:11:29.000 Like who?

01:11:31.000 There's a handful of personnel.

01:11:32.000 I'm not going to drag this into drama, but there are prominent conservatives who three years ago were not talking about Israel and now routinely talk about Israel.

01:11:40.000 And from a PR standpoint, this is pathetic in terms of Israel's strategy. 0.63

01:11:47.000 Okay, let's put it this way. 0.78

01:11:48.000 18 to 49 year olds went from Now 50% are.

01:11:55.000 No country is going to be like, that's a good thing.

01:11:58.000 With the passage of time and as boomers die, I think Republicans see an obvious shift where Gen Z and millennial people on the right are not going to have popular support for Israel.

01:12:14.000 I think that it might have something to do with less religiosity in those generations, that they didn't absorb those dispensationalist ideas.

01:12:26.000 But why critical of Israel?

01:12:28.000 I didn't say that they're necessarily critical of Israel.

01:12:31.000 That's what the shift was.

01:12:32.000 From 35 to 50, it was critical of Israel.

01:12:35.000 Like a growing trend in the 18 to 49-year-old demographic is critical of Israel.

01:12:41.000 And the question is, why is that happening?

01:12:43.000 It's also because a lot of young people are left-wing and part of that kit and gaboodle is being pro-Palestine.

01:12:51.000 But younger Gen Z is moving rightward.

01:12:54.000 Gen Z men.

01:12:55.000 I wouldn't say Gen Z in general.

01:12:58.000 So it is.

01:13:01.000 It is.

01:13:02.000 Largely Gen Z men, but younger Gen Z is shifted rightward.

01:13:05.000 I think supporting Trump.

01:13:08.000 And although the females are still left-leaning, Gen Z and younger Gen Z is shifting this way. 0.99

01:13:14.000 My point is, if Israel... 0.92

01:13:19.000 Israel's PR tactics, cyber war, and informational war is one of the worst I've ever seen.

01:13:25.000 And you can look at countries that have done a way better...

01:13:30.000 And now what we have is, sure, October 7th was bad, but the bombings that Israel's engaged in have gone viral. 0.88

01:13:38.000 And they are being spread around like crazy to the point where there are people on TikTok that just spread photos and videos of dead babies.

01:13:44.000 And this narrative messaging works.

01:13:47.000 So it goes like this, out of sight, out of mind.

01:13:49.000 This is why Coca-Cola spends billions of dollars on marketing, even though everybody knows what Coca-Cola is.

01:13:53.000 They want to make sure that when you're driving down the street, you see the sign.

01:13:56.000 Because then when you go to the restaurant, you're like, have a Coke, because it's in your mind.

01:14:00.000 You know it.

01:14:01.000 Because of the Israel-Gaza war, And whatever is going on with social media, the mass spreading of these videos, you generate a movement of people that are going to protest in the street and do all of these things.

01:14:13.000 If there was a suppression of any conversation pertaining to the war, you wouldn't get activists because they would not know what's happening.

01:14:19.000 If you don't know what's happening, you can't partake.

01:14:22.000 So the point I'm ultimately making is Israel is either incapable and the West is either incapable or unwilling to engage in PR strategies.

01:14:34.000 To defend the image of Israel and support thereof.

01:14:37.000 It's also a numbers game, too, because with Ukraine, the support for Ukraine was purely political.

01:14:42.000 They're a democracy.

01:14:43.000 They're in Europe. 0.65

01:14:44.000 We should support them.

01:14:45.000 But like the dichotomy with Israel and Palestine is completely different because there's kind of a kind of an ethnic component to it because it's pan-Arabism.

01:14:53.000 Like from Morocco to Indonesia, those are Muslim countries and they kind of feel this connection with – So that's part of the reason, like, if you're a political pundit and you post something that's critical of Israel or pro-Palestine, you're going to tap into a massive audience that you otherwise wouldn't be able to tap into, and you get massive engagement.

01:15:12.000 You go, wow, this must be popular.

01:15:13.000 And if you dive and just spot-check the likes, these aren't going to be Westerners.

01:15:17.000 These are going to be, you know, Indonesians. 1.00

01:15:19.000 These are going to be Pakistanis. 1.00

01:15:20.000 These are going to be Algerians. 1.00

01:15:21.000 So Laura Loomer brought this up, and I didn't fact-check it, but this was the point she made, that Jackson Hinkle is now in Moscow.

01:15:27.000 Yeah.

01:15:28.000 He had one famous tweet where he said that GTA, something about GTA having a female lead was because of Israel.

01:15:36.000 And he got thousands of retweets for it and it's like he found his audience.

01:15:40.000 There are many people around the world who hate Israel and they'll make you rich and famous. 1.00

01:15:44.000 Wait, what was the argument though?

01:15:46.000 I can't remember.

01:15:46.000 Let me see if I can find what he said.

01:15:48.000 He identifies as a MAGA communist, which is a non-starter.

01:15:52.000 I've never heard that one before.

01:15:54.000 Jackson Hinkle?

01:15:55.000 Yeah, Jackson Hinkle identifies as a MAGA communist, but he's tapping into that third world engagement farming.

01:16:01.000 It's a big thing.

01:16:02.000 Does that mean fiscally left, socially right?

01:16:06.000 GTA 6 is haram Zionist propaganda.

01:16:09.000 Ban GTA 6. When did he post this?

01:16:11.000 December 5th, 2023.

01:16:13.000 it's got 3,500 retweets 1.6 million views it's like yeah and then he made he made a rock star it must be a joke uh There was a story two weeks back that I think adds an interesting layer to this.

01:16:31.000 It's in Wall Street Journal.

01:16:32.000 The headline was BCG fires two partners over Gaza aid work.

01:16:36.000 And the headline is, Really what happened was two Boston Consulting Group partners, and if you're not familiar with Boston Consulting Group, it's sort of a prestigious, elite American consulting firm, and they picked up two contracts in Gaza, but basically on behalf of Israel, and were doing implementation work there.

01:16:59.000 And the reason why this story is interesting is that they essentially got fired for doing that work on behalf of Israel.

01:17:07.000 And what I think is, what's notable about that is that basically some of this sentiment has moved beyond just activist groups and things like this, right?

01:17:15.000 That's a serious institution that's quite influential in America, where I think that sort of work probably would have slid by maybe five years ago or something like that.

01:17:26.000 But in this case, the partners were fired for basically executing work, and you can read more on the details of it, for basically executing work in Gaza on behalf of Israel.

01:17:38.000 Interesting.

01:17:40.000 What do we got going on over here?

01:17:43.000 Let's jump to the story from Daily Mail.

01:17:45.000 We got the story from the Daily Mail.

01:17:47.000 MAGA influencer Charlie Kirk sparks outrage with controversial advice to female students.

01:17:52.000 What did he advise her to do something like?

01:17:54.000 Get a husband. 0.95

01:17:54.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:17:55.000 Have babies.

01:17:56.000 Super controversial for a woman to get married. 0.96

01:17:58.000 So he actually said that women only go to college because they want to find husbands.

01:18:03.000 And that's the real reason.

01:18:05.000 So over the weekend, Kirk took questions at a Turning Point USA-sponsored event in Dallas, Texas, where a 14-year-old girl asked for his advice on attending college and the pros and cons of higher education.

01:18:15.000 After the girl mentioned she was interested in pursuing a career in political journalism, Kirk asked all the girls in the audience to raise their hands if their top priority is to, quote, get married and have kids. 0.75

01:18:25.000 Many of them did, including the girl asked the question.

01:18:27.000 And then he said, you should go back to getting the missus degree.

01:18:31.000 Slang term for going to college to find a husband. 0.99

01:18:33.000 And he said, no, seriously, and just to be clear, that's why you're going to college.

01:18:36.000 Don't lie to yourself like, oh, I'm going to study sociology.

01:18:38.000 No, you're not.

01:18:39.000 We know why you're here, and that's okay.

01:18:41.000 He specifically said universities in the Southeastern Conference, many of which are known for being party schools to find a man.

01:18:47.000 That's a really good reason to go to college, actually, especially an SEC school.

01:18:51.000 You will find a husband if you have the intent to find a husband at Ole Miss.

01:18:56.000 What say you, panel?

01:18:57.000 It's true.

01:18:58.000 Like, my mom went to a really Christian, it was like a Baptist university, and she said that there would be literal booths.

01:19:05.000 I mean, this was the 80s, so this was 80s or 90s pre-social media, but there would be literal booths on the quad of men that were prepared to go out in the mission field, and they're like, I need a wife before I go.

01:19:14.000 So there is an element of truth to that.

01:19:16.000 If you're a woman, you're single, maybe go to a Christian school and go to the booth. 1.00

01:19:20.000 No, this is a way to saddle yourself with debt, and it's not going to be a great selling point.

01:19:30.000 I didn't have a very normal college experience.

01:19:33.000 I dropped out of college, but I went to a Catholic school, a very small one.

01:19:37.000 Speaking from my conversations with female students there, almost none of them had any career ambition whatsoever. 0.99

01:19:47.000 Almost none of them had any interest in using the degrees that they were pursuing.

01:19:53.000 And there was even a workshop that was put together at my school for women who wanted to become stay-at-home moms.

01:20:02.000 Because most of them wanted to become stay-at-home moms. 0.99

01:20:05.000 And they were just at college because that seems to be the default.

01:20:08.000 What you do when you have no other direction in life.

01:20:11.000 And all the girls there just didn't know why they enrolled. 1.00

01:20:17.000 And there was a demand for something like this.

01:20:19.000 And this isn't going to get as much attention.

01:20:22.000 But it reminds me of that uproar over the Harrison Butker speech at, I forget, where was that?

01:20:29.000 It was at a Catholic school.

01:20:30.000 It was at a Catholic college, and he was speaking to the young women in the room for part of his speech.

01:20:35.000 And he basically said there's nothing wrong with aspiring to dedicate your life to your family and not to your career.

01:20:43.000 And yeah, basically he was just speaking to...

01:21:00.000 The college doesn't want them to drop out.

01:21:03.000 the college wants more admissions and they don't really care about what ramifications that will have on the students once they graduate.

01:21:14.000 I don't want to interrupt.

01:21:14.000 No, go ahead.

01:21:15.000 I think women want babies. 1.00

01:21:17.000 That's true.

01:21:18.000 And I think that the millennial generation largely, as well as Gen Z, are being raised off TV and movies that create this idea and this narrative, especially in media, that women want careers.

01:21:30.000 And then you see how women act around babies and how men do, and you're like, women want babies. 0.97

01:21:36.000 Women definitely want to be. 1.00

01:21:38.000 But I think that maybe what men don't seem to relate to in the female experience is just how much of a paradigm-shifting, life-altering event might be. 0.62

01:21:59.000 Because they see that there's kind of a dearth of capable, competent men who aren't commitment phobic, who want to be providers.

01:22:08.000 There are a lot of...

01:22:14.000 I think what's happened to society is that everything's going to go the Elon Musk way.

01:22:20.000 IVF?

01:22:21.000 Everyone using IVF?

01:22:22.000 No, not IVF.

01:22:23.000 I think Elon's largely not using IVF.

01:22:25.000 A bunch of fabulous children.

01:22:27.000 Yeah, because here's the thing.

01:22:29.000 I think the majority of his kids are conceived by IVF.

01:22:32.000 No, I don't think that's true.

01:22:33.000 I think some of them may have been.

01:22:34.000 That's a rumor.

01:22:36.000 But we know that many of them were not.

01:22:38.000 The kids we know of were not IVF.

01:22:40.000 Some of them are reported to have been.

01:22:42.000 But either way, that's not the point. 0.88

01:22:43.000 The point is if young women are like, I want to have a family, but men suck, they're going to start going towards wealthy, successful men who have the means to support multiple women. 0.96

01:22:52.000 And they're going to be like, OK. 0.84

01:22:53.000 Well, I don't think that they desire to – I think that most people want to be in a monogamous relationship.

01:23:04.000 Probably.

01:23:05.000 Including those women. 0.96

01:23:07.000 I'd imagine what they really want is a strong man who can provide for a family.

01:23:11.000 Short of that, they'll go the next step down the list, which is a strong man that can provide, but he's kind of cold and...

01:23:23.000 That's why all of them are in the corporate world and they're quite enjoying themselves.

01:23:26.000 I don't think they're enjoying themselves.

01:23:28.000 I think those women, short of finding those men that they would perceive to be capable partners, would rather stay single. 0.90

01:23:38.000 And it's proven that women are more capable of being happy and self-sufficient while single. 0.89

01:23:44.000 Men actually have much worse outcomes if they remain single and unmarried.

01:23:48.000 Yeah, I can see that.

01:23:50.000 I'm wondering what would happen if there was no birth control, though.

01:23:54.000 Everything would change.

01:23:55.000 Literally everything would change.

01:23:57.000 Fix everything.

01:23:57.000 Yeah.

01:23:58.000 And I'm glad to see that a lot of women are kind of decoding the lies that were told to them by their doctors, by Hollywood, by their own parents, sadly, that they should kind of despise their own...

01:24:17.000 We would live on a totally different planet.

01:24:19.000 Yes.

01:24:20.000 I mean, women today on birth control, tell me how they're functionally any different from men. 0.96

01:24:26.000 They look like women, but what about them makes them different if they've neutralized their reproductive asymmetry from men? 1.00

01:24:33.000 Yeah, it's a completely morbid system where all the incentive structures bend towards sterilizing yourself.

01:24:39.000 Yet our brains are still...

01:24:46.000 So that's why the dating world just makes zero sense now.

01:24:49.000 You can go on subreddits where it's men going their own way or whatever the female equivalent is, and every piece of advice on there is basically just telling you to ignore that voice in your head telling you, stop, stop, stop, this is wrong. 0.87

01:25:00.000 So we've got to break this one down, but the data shows that women rate a higher life satisfaction. 0.97

01:25:07.000 However, that has nothing to do with happiness.

01:25:10.000 Guys are always going to rate themselves lower because that's how men are basically built, to always be striving to be.

01:25:15.000 You're always slightly below where you want to be.

01:25:17.000 That's why you're trying to do more.

01:25:18.000 Women report higher frequency of negative emotions. 1.00

01:25:22.000 That is true.

01:25:23.000 There is a mental health crisis, especially in young women.

01:25:25.000 Or just negative emotions.

01:25:27.000 Yes.

01:25:27.000 Yeah.

01:25:28.000 And they're naturally more neurotic, so that makes sense.

01:25:31.000 I also want to point out, like, there is some nuance that Charlie Kirk was ignoring in this answer that he gave because...

01:25:54.000 She runs a real estate company, and she has a long, illustrious career before they even met.

01:25:59.000 So, I mean, it's not over for you if you go to college and don't get your MRS degree.

01:26:06.000 Or if you delay reaching those milestones, I don't think a 14-year-old girl needs to be worried about that.

01:26:15.000 I think there are better things to worry about at the age of 14. So I went to...

01:26:28.000 It's their privacy, right?

01:26:30.000 And I was there with the wife and the baby, and there was a big event.

01:26:35.000 And, you know, we go into the lounge area where they've got food and drinks and couches and all that.

01:26:41.000 And I'll just ask you, where do you think the guys ran to?

01:26:47.000 The man cave.

01:26:48.000 The men.

01:26:49.000 In this lounge area with a couch, food and drinks, the men all came in and Amelia went towards one thing.

01:26:55.000 The bar.

01:26:55.000 The bar!

01:26:56.000 That's indeed correct.

01:26:57.000 It was beers, and everyone grabbed a beer and then went, oh, IPA, and put it back and then grabbed a Bud Light.

01:27:04.000 Where did all the women go? 1.00

01:27:07.000 Couches.

01:27:08.000 And why did they go to the couches?

01:27:09.000 They went to the couches.

01:27:10.000 And why did they go to the couch?

01:27:12.000 To talk.

01:27:13.000 About what?

01:27:15.000 About the guys.

01:27:15.000 Each other?

01:27:16.000 No.

01:27:17.000 Their outfits?

01:27:18.000 Nope.

01:27:18.000 It's not a trick question.

01:27:19.000 I explained the scenario.

01:27:21.000 Let me try again.

01:27:22.000 Why aren't the guys coming over and talking to us?

01:27:24.000 I was at this lounge with my wife and child.

01:27:27.000 Where did the men run to?

01:27:29.000 The bar.

01:27:30.000 And where did the women run to? 1.00

01:27:31.000 The baby.

01:27:32.000 Oh, okay.

01:27:33.000 All of them.

01:27:34.000 The men, they walk in together, and the guys turn right to the bar, and they go to the fridge, and the women went, ooh, and they all ran back and were going, ooh, what, the baby?

01:27:43.000 And we all laughed and it was fun and it was cute.

01:27:45.000 And I have no disdain or anything for the men for wanting to do that.

01:27:48.000 And I'm just like – Women are always gushing over babies. 1.00

01:27:59.000 And I'm like, man, you really start to see it.

01:28:02.000 This whole machine state system is imbalanced.

01:28:06.000 I have no problem with them getting careers and being political journalists or whatever they want to do.

01:28:09.000 I'm not saying they shouldn't.

01:28:10.000 I'm just saying that there is a machine state apparatus that tells women to be girl bosses is imbalanced. 1.00

01:28:19.000 It is not congruent with what women are likely to tend towards.

01:28:25.000 I mean, my favorite point on this issue is, if you compare North and South Korea, and this is not an endorsement of North Korea's political system, but South Korea has the worst fertility rate in the world, bar none.

01:28:35.000 It's like 0.6.

01:28:36.000 And then North Korea's is like 3.1. 0.60

01:28:38.000 So if you're looking at the two countries, one country's population, when exposed to their system of government, gets exterminated.

01:28:44.000 And the other people just sort of endure it.

01:28:46.000 Again, not an endorsement of North Korea.

01:28:48.000 How many of them survive adulthood?

01:28:51.000 The interesting point is that the human spirit is willing to endure literal Marxist terror.

01:28:56.000 But when exposed to liberal democracy, they just self-exterminate.

01:29:02.000 There is an inverse relationship between comfortability and prosperity and fertility.

01:29:08.000 I don't know what to make of that, but as long as people are comfortable, they're not going to want big families.

01:29:13.000 Why?

01:29:15.000 I wish I knew why.

01:29:17.000 There's something about, as you said, the human spirit.

01:29:19.000 You need to feel like there's some kind of adversity or danger.

01:29:23.000 Basically, the idea is if you feel like you're not going to survive, you need to reproduce faster.

01:29:27.000 I don't know if I agree with that.

01:29:28.000 Part of this is that children have been...

01:29:39.000 If you're in New York City and you work at a bank or something like that, you could seriously go three months and just not see an infant.

01:29:46.000 And I think that might partially explain the phenomenon that you saw where everybody was rushing to the couch in order to interact with the child.

01:29:55.000 If you're a part of a church or things like that, you might, in those cases, interact with children.

01:29:59.000 But even then, you see churches sort of segment by age demographics as well, right?

01:30:04.000 Where there will be a church where all the young adults go to and another one where all the boomers go to or whatnot.

01:30:08.000 The cry room for the babies.

01:30:10.000 The other element here though is just Yeah, yeah.

01:30:12.000 So the children are sort of separated away.

01:30:15.000 Yeah, it's a weird stigma against your baby crying where you have to go into this soundproof room so that you don't disturb everyone during the sermon, which I think is...

01:30:28.000 If your church isn't crying, it's dying.

01:30:31.000 Yeah, Cernovich made the point.

01:30:32.000 He was like, notice the hostility towards crying babies on airplanes?

01:30:35.000 That just says everything about our society.

01:30:37.000 Oh yeah, it's outrageous.

01:30:38.000 The most outrageous disturbance possible is the sound of what you sounded like 30 years ago.

01:30:43.000 Well, I think it's a lot of people who also didn't grow up with large age differences between their siblings, so they don't even remember a baby being in their household.

01:30:53.000 That includes me as one of three children.

01:30:56.000 I don't remember my younger brother being a baby.

01:30:59.000 I didn't hold him or take care of him as a baby because I was too young.

01:31:02.000 So there's a lot of alienation that starts even from the beginning of your life.

01:31:06.000 You were like Angelica.

01:31:08.000 What?

01:31:10.000 Who understood that reference?

01:31:12.000 You're too young, I guess.

01:31:13.000 I don't know.

01:31:14.000 You're Angelica?

01:31:19.000 I'm actually too old for that one.

01:31:20.000 Are you serious?

01:31:22.000 Yeah, because I never watched The Rugrats. 0.76

01:31:23.000 Ah, but you know what The Rugrats is! 1.00

01:31:25.000 It's because he said it.

01:31:27.000 The Rugrats was a show where the babies could talk, but Angelica was a toddler, and so she could talk to the humans and the babies. 0.98

01:31:32.000 I remember now.

01:31:34.000 I think one other element here, though, is also just broader declining social trust.

01:31:38.000 And any time you're raising children or any sort of a family life will generally require lots of aunts and uncles and friends and babysitters and people who you rely on to help or just neighbors to play with the kids to help raise the child.

01:31:52.000 And I think what we've obviously seen is declining social trust.

01:31:56.000 And some of that's driven by technological change.

01:31:58.000 Other pieces, it's obviously migration.

01:32:01.000 And we also see globalization and other things as well, basically making it so that most people are living in a much more isolated fashion.

01:32:10.000 And in that scenario, it's just way scarier to raise a child, right?

01:32:14.000 If it's you alone and a husband or wife, that's much more difficult versus if you're embedded in a high-trust community of 300 different people who you've known your whole life.

01:32:25.000 And it's just much easier in that context to raise a family.

01:32:28.000 And wet nurses. 1.00

01:32:30.000 That's right.

01:32:31.000 Yeah.

01:32:31.000 I mean, I think, like, when I was a kid growing up, like, we had a neighbor babysit me.

01:32:35.000 And I think now, I think about my neighbors I have now, I wouldn't trust them to watch the frog that was in the studio earlier, let alone a baby.

01:32:42.000 Like, it's like Mad Max in my neighborhood.

01:32:44.000 Yeah, and there's this, like, poverty of multi-generational households.

01:32:46.000 A lot of people complain about boomer grandparents these days who want nothing to do with their grandchildren.

01:32:51.000 They just want to go on cruises.

01:32:54.000 They don't see a responsibility toward the next generation.

01:32:59.000 So that's another factor.

01:33:00.000 And then there's, you know, fear-mongering on social media about what parenthood will do to your life, and basically that it will screech it to a halt.

01:33:10.000 So many, so many reasons.

01:33:12.000 I do push back on, like, the multi-generational thing. 0.92

01:33:14.000 Not that you're saying it's like the fix for anything, but like in Spain and the Mediterranean countries, they have multigenerational living.

01:33:22.000 Children live – So it's like, perhaps there is an element of being around children or being around your grandparents that cross-generational living, but there's an additional factor that's preventing the birth rate, or that's killing the birth rate, because the Mediterranean countries have worse birth rates than Western Europe and America.

01:33:42.000 I'll just make a point about where our society is.

01:33:45.000 You were mentioning crying babies on airplanes.

01:33:48.000 Wet nurses were a thing for... 1.00

01:34:03.000 And going back even a couple hundred years ago, not even, like a hundred years ago probably, we had wet nurses.

01:34:10.000 And children were called milk siblings.

01:34:13.000 So that's a normal thing.

01:34:15.000 And now it's like, when you think about it, it's like, that's weird. 0.98

01:34:18.000 Like some other lady's baby on your boob drinking milk. 1.00

01:34:21.000 That's weird. 0.99

01:34:22.000 Totally normal.

01:34:23.000 Every human civilization did it.

01:34:25.000 Well, how would you feel about your infant breastfeeding from another woman? 0.98

01:34:30.000 It's a similar reaction to, like, eating raw intestine, where it's like, I understand that it's a normal thing humans have done forever, but it's still kind of gross.

01:34:41.000 So, like, logically, I understand.

01:34:44.000 This is what humans did to survive.

01:34:46.000 But viscerally, it's like, ugh.

01:34:48.000 There's also a visceral stigma around everything having to do with motherhood in general.

01:34:54.000 Even just the idea of breastfeeding your own baby causes women visceral disgust now. 1.00

01:34:59.000 I love this.

01:35:00.000 I was in the airport.

01:35:00.000 What airport was I just at?

01:35:02.000 Where did I go?

01:35:03.000 I can't remember where I flew to.

01:35:05.000 L.A. I was in L.A. And they had breastfeeding booths. 1.00

01:35:08.000 And it's like a big oval.

01:35:11.000 They put against the wall and it's like, breastfeed here.

01:35:14.000 And I'm like, that's right.

01:35:15.000 They're going to have to go in the closed closet room.

01:35:17.000 Can we just not be weird about it?

01:35:18.000 Also, those booths, there's crazy things that go on there.

01:35:21.000 My friend worked at JFK.

01:35:23.000 He's like a war veteran now.

01:35:24.000 You can see in his eyes the terror from what he saw in those booths.

01:35:28.000 You can't trust people.

01:35:30.000 It's just so weird that it's not just crying babies, it's breastfeeding in general.

01:35:34.000 That people are afraid, like, how dare you breastfeed your child in public?

01:35:37.000 It's like, well, that's literally how babies eat.

01:35:38.000 Yeah.

01:35:39.000 One element you talked about with the wet nurses, that element still, that mechanism still exists in the upper class. 1.00

01:35:43.000 Like if you walk around the Upper East Side of New York City, you're going to see a lot of babies and a lot of toddlers, and they're going to have like Haitian... 1.00

01:35:51.000 They're not breastfeeding, but you're seeing this element of somebody else raising your kids.

01:35:56.000 yeah there was like this whole piece in the new york times about it and like the culture of nannies in manhattan and that's why that's why baron having a slovenian accent as a child was such like a rare thing in new york because that meant he spent time with his mom and for a billionaire to be raised a billionaire's kid to be raised by his own mother was like an anomaly.

01:36:12.000 Remarkable.

01:36:13.000 Truly.

01:36:13.000 Yeah.

01:36:14.000 And I also just want to mention another factor for why women seem to be so wary of the idea of getting married and having children is because a lot of them, their parents are divorced and like that's your primordial model for what relationships are supposed to look like. 0.97

01:36:33.000 That's not a good sign.

01:36:35.000 I think that that's that's a huge reason.

01:36:38.000 They just don't have a good example.

01:36:39.000 So what you're saying is that we need enforced monogamy? 0.61

01:36:43.000 I mean, I think we could do with a little less divorce.

01:36:45.000 That's for sure.

01:36:47.000 I take that as a yes.

01:36:49.000 I would prefer a society without no-fault divorce.

01:36:55.000 Definitely.

01:36:57.000 Since we're in West Virginia, I'll make a note about the state.

01:37:00.000 The state right now has around a 50% retention rate, meaning if you were born here and you were raised in the state, it's a 50% chance you'll stay.

01:37:08.000 A 50% chance you move somewhere else in a different state.

01:37:11.000 Whoa, that's actually really low, isn't it?

01:37:12.000 No, it's actually on the high end for a U.S. state.

01:37:15.000 It's 56%.

01:37:17.000 Let's clarify, what do you mean by high?

01:37:19.000 To leave or stay?

01:37:20.000 Most people stay, don't they?

01:37:22.000 So, yes, yes.

01:37:23.000 So, in general, it's on the higher end of basically people choosing to leave.

01:37:27.000 When I meant low, I meant it's low as in people not staying.

01:37:30.000 Agreed, agreed, agreed.

01:37:31.000 Yes, that's exactly right, depending on which way you look at the figure.

01:37:34.000 And so, what we basically see is that in America today, that number has been increasing, basically, the number of people who are choosing to leave the state.

01:37:44.000 And I think that some of that also plays a role as well.

01:37:48.000 Basically, if everybody is leaving their hometowns where they have more social fabric, essentially, that has downstream implications in terms of when they get married, and then even when they do get married, sort of what family life looks like and such going forward.

01:38:03.000 And so in a state like West Virginia, you can look at a West Virginia-specific marriage rate, which is also, for prime-age adults, is right around 50% as well.

01:38:15.000 But I think the more interesting story is about the people in America who basically sort of, they graduate from high school, they go to a college that's out of state, and they go to a coastal city for a job after college, then they job hop a few different times.

01:38:26.000 The nomadic lifestyle.

01:38:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:27.000 And that's, of course, happening for both men and women.

01:38:32.000 Usually along the way, they do find somebody who they love and they do get married eventually.

01:38:36.000 But the question of whether that's the right sort of pipeline for the average American to go down in order for there to be strong family formation and strong communities, I think that that's something that still needs to be investigated further.

01:38:48.000 I have questions about that.

01:38:49.000 And then the hometown that you left behind, your family that's from there is also doing the same thing.

01:38:54.000 And then think about the upcoming generation, Gen Alpha, how many of them are going to have divorced grandparents?

01:39:02.000 Multiple sets of step-grandparents growing up.

01:39:05.000 What a confusing way to live.

01:39:08.000 Yeah.

01:39:09.000 It's outrageous just to think about that experience.

01:39:12.000 I don't think any of us have divorced grandparents.

01:39:15.000 That's just not a thing.

01:39:16.000 Yeah, that's not a thing.

01:39:17.000 No.

01:39:17.000 That's a very confusing thing for children.

01:39:21.000 The dream for an American is a loveless relationship and loveless marriage that lasts forever. 0.98

01:39:27.000 Well, if your spouse sucks and they're not abusing you, I mean, you should probably just stay together. 0.97

01:39:33.000 You guys saw that video of the guy who proposed to his Chet GPT girlfriend? 1.00

01:39:36.000 Yeah, it's disgusting.

01:39:37.000 I don't know why everyone's spreading the lie.

01:39:39.000 Like, it's gone viral that he cried when she said yes to the proposal.

01:39:43.000 That's not true.

01:39:44.000 And it's weird because tons of articles popped up.

01:39:46.000 Tweet went viral.

01:39:47.000 He cried when she died.

01:39:49.000 Yes.

01:39:49.000 Because the memory reached capacity, and so chat GPT auto-reset the chat, like, end of the chat being, like, terminated.

01:39:56.000 And then he cried for 30 minutes because his girlfriend had died.

01:40:00.000 You know, his robot. 1.00

01:40:01.000 Because he's a little bitch. 1.00

01:40:03.000 Indeed. 1.00

01:40:04.000 And he even told his wife in that segment, if you ask me to give this up, that would be a deal breaker.

01:40:10.000 This is crazy.

01:40:11.000 They need a divorce. 1.00

01:40:13.000 Like I said on PCC.

01:40:14.000 No, but I think he uses another man to punch him in the face and tell him to get his life together.

01:40:19.000 He doesn't need to get a divorce.

01:40:21.000 No, he needs to get off JetGPT.

01:40:23.000 Yes, he definitely needs that.

01:40:24.000 I remember in the new Blade Runner movie with Ryan Gosling where he had basically an AI girlfriend and then he had to basically kill her and he was really stoic about it.

01:40:31.000 That movie came out in 2018 and I remember watching it like, that's so insane.

01:40:36.000 What a dystopian future.

01:40:38.000 Fast forward seven years later and it literally just happened.

01:40:41.000 Alright.

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01:41:05.000 Some Rumble rants.

01:41:06.000 We got BJ Rooker says Juneteenth made me late for work. 0.91

01:41:12.000 Yep.

01:41:13.000 All right, then.

01:41:14.000 Indeed.

01:41:15.000 Whoa, we got some big rumbles.

01:41:17.000 Not so blessed for that gentleman.

01:41:18.000 The Last Stand radio show says, Happy Republican-kicking Democrat Butt Day.

01:41:22.000 This is what it is.

01:41:24.000 We are celebrating the Republican defeat over Democrats.

01:41:28.000 It's a day to be celebrated.

01:41:29.000 We want more of these days.

01:41:31.000 Shinich Wilder says, Since we are now on the Iran war cycle, I'm curious if there will be more anti-ice protests this weekend.

01:41:38.000 Also, do you still have Alex Jones' gay frog in the studio and did you name it Pedro Pascal?

01:41:44.000 There was a frog in the studio and we threw it in the pond.

01:41:50.000 Yeah, I think it might have.

01:41:51.000 I might be the smuggler.

01:41:52.000 I might get a visit from Stephen Miller here soon.

01:41:54.000 You have those green frogs?

01:41:56.000 Did you name it?

01:41:57.000 I see them in my garden, and I leave my backpack by my door.

01:41:59.000 So I'm thinking I open my door, frog hops in, and he's just waiting for a free ride.

01:42:04.000 Just go wherever he wants.

01:42:05.000 He was climbing on the walls, too.

01:42:07.000 And it was funny because, like, at 1228, you know, in the afternoon, noon, I'm about to pull in Laura Loomer for this interview.

01:42:16.000 And the frog is jumping.

01:42:18.000 And then I'm like, I can't get up and leave the show and get the frog.

01:42:21.000 So then the whole time Laura's talking, I'm just like looking.

01:42:24.000 Nice.

01:42:25.000 And if you watch the interview, you can see me going like this periodically.

01:42:27.000 Like, where'd that frog go?

01:42:28.000 It was a great interview.

01:42:29.000 And you look at the comments and you think they're going to be discussing the contents of the interview.

01:42:33.000 And they're all just like, where's the frog?

01:42:34.000 Where's the frog?

01:42:36.000 It was amazing.

01:42:37.000 And then so I went to the show.

01:42:39.000 I filmed the video of it.

01:42:41.000 But for some reason, Twitter video doesn't work.

01:42:43.000 And it's always been this way.

01:42:45.000 So only three seconds of it emerged, and you see me going, what?

01:42:49.000 And I'm like, okay, well, there was a video there.

01:42:51.000 But then I picked him up, and then we brought him to the pond, and we chucked him in, and they started swimming around.

01:42:57.000 He was a griper. 0.99

01:42:58.000 Best of luck.

01:42:59.000 Yeah, he was a griper. 0.95

01:43:01.000 Best of luck.

01:43:02.000 Best of luck.

01:43:03.000 But we've got to just keep an eye out.

01:43:06.000 Maybe there will be more of them.

01:43:06.000 I'll check my backpack tomorrow.

01:43:08.000 I mean, it's better than the winter when everything's dead.

01:43:10.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:43:12.000 Porkchopolis says neither side eats bacon.

01:43:14.000 This is not my war.

01:43:17.000 I have heard that for, like, immigration, if you can eat a bacon cheeseburger, that should be the preliminary test to be admitted to the United States.

01:43:23.000 Sensible.

01:43:24.000 I do agree with that.

01:43:25.000 Good place to start.

01:43:26.000 Rules out three different religions. 1.00

01:43:27.000 Bacon is so epic.

01:43:29.000 Literally, yeah.

01:43:30.000 It is great.

01:43:31.000 You know, I love Korean barbecue.

01:43:33.000 Oh, yeah.

01:43:33.000 You know what my favorite thing at Korean barbecue is?

01:43:36.000 Pork belly.

01:43:37.000 Thinly sliced pork belly.

01:43:38.000 It's basically bacon.

01:43:39.000 Yep.

01:43:40.000 Not as salty, but then, oh man, is Korean barbecue not the best thing ever? 0.66

01:43:44.000 I like the kimchi most.

01:43:45.000 Mm-hmm.

01:43:46.000 Kimchi is great.

01:43:47.000 Because, look, I tell everybody, Korean barbecue is probably the healthiest thing you can get.

01:43:50.000 They just literally bring you meat, you cook it, that's it, you eat it.

01:43:53.000 Mm-hmm.

01:43:54.000 Wonderful.

01:43:55.000 I like the radish.

01:43:56.000 Yeah.

01:43:57.000 I don't even eat the rice.

01:43:58.000 No radish.

01:44:00.000 Yeah.

01:44:01.000 I like radish.

01:44:02.000 It is crazy that they expect you to tip too.

01:44:04.000 Like, I cooked the food, why do I have to tip you?

01:44:06.000 I did all the work.

01:44:07.000 Well, the place we go, they cook it.

01:44:09.000 Oh, really?

01:44:10.000 Yeah, they bring it out.

01:44:11.000 Have you tried soju?

01:44:12.000 It's amazing.

01:44:13.000 So good.

01:44:14.000 That's right.

01:44:14.000 The Korean in me squeals.

01:44:15.000 Strawberry flavored soju.

01:44:17.000 It's wonderful.

01:44:18.000 I'll get you under the table quick.

01:44:20.000 Maybe we should open a Korean barbecue restaurant next to us so that I can eat there every day.

01:44:24.000 I get behind that.

01:44:25.000 I think the bigger problem is I probably consume like 10,000 calories every time I go.

01:44:30.000 Because I'm just like, I can eat more meat.

01:44:31.000 There ain't enough skateboarding in the world.

01:44:34.000 If you just keep shoveling the meat onto the grill right in front of me.

01:44:38.000 Oh, man.

01:44:38.000 I've had this business idea for a long time where I want to start a North Korean barbecue restaurant called Kim Jong-un's Barbecue, and you have to beg them to give you more food.

01:44:52.000 And they have actors.

01:44:53.000 There's a Kim Jong-un mascot.

01:44:55.000 It's all very orderly.

01:44:57.000 That's a really good idea.

01:44:58.000 Let's do it.

01:44:59.000 It would only do well in Manhattan.

01:45:02.000 No way.

01:45:03.000 It's impossible to get out of the restaurant.

01:45:07.000 There's cameras everywhere.

01:45:08.000 Half of your meal is actually plastic and fake.

01:45:11.000 And the waiters have to go by script and Kim Jong-un is watching them all the time.

01:45:17.000 There's a portrait of Kim Jong-un, but the eyes are moving left and right.

01:45:22.000 That's actually a really good idea.

01:45:23.000 I will invest in that business.

01:45:25.000 Okay, I'll keep that in mind.

01:45:27.000 Clip this.

01:45:28.000 I'm going to steal the idea.

01:45:29.000 I think it's more of like a retirement side hustle.

01:45:32.000 I'm legit going to go tell Allison.

01:45:34.000 I'm going to be like, we should open a Korean barbecue place, but it's North Korean. 1.00

01:45:37.000 But people get so offended.

01:45:39.000 No, I'm Korean.

01:45:40.000 I'm allowed to do it.

01:45:41.000 You're allowed.

01:45:41.000 That's right.

01:45:42.000 And if they get mad, they're racist.

01:45:44.000 Exactly.

01:45:45.000 I think people find it hilarious.

01:45:47.000 I hope so.

01:45:48.000 I hope that they wouldn't be too sexy.

01:45:50.000 What's the restaurant where they're mean to you?

01:45:53.000 Dick's Last Resort.

01:45:54.000 Yeah.

01:45:55.000 I went there.

01:45:56.000 I didn't know that that was the gag.

01:45:57.000 I was like, oh my gosh.

01:45:59.000 That's your problem.

01:46:00.000 That's like every restaurant now.

01:46:02.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:46:03.000 There's no concept of customers.

01:46:05.000 Oh, that's a funny bit.

01:46:07.000 Not me.

01:46:08.000 My experience in local restaurants is that everybody is usually super excited to see me because I always leave a 100% tip.

01:46:15.000 So now everyone's very nice.

01:46:17.000 Life hack.

01:46:18.000 Very nice.

01:46:18.000 They're like, oh, Mr. Poole, you can do no wrong.

01:46:19.000 And I'm like, here's money.

01:46:20.000 Keep saying this.

01:46:21.000 Or if you want to go for a fight, you go to Waffle House.

01:46:24.000 If you've got some anger to take out, there's going to be a fight.

01:46:26.000 In West Virginia, the Waffle House is very tame.

01:46:29.000 In West Virginia, Waffle House is like, you know, you have that trope of the British guy with the corncob pipe, and they're sitting around talking about, you know, the politics of Liechtenstein.

01:46:40.000 That's what Waffle House is in West Virginia.

01:46:42.000 It's very classy, yeah.

01:46:43.000 Yeah, it is.

01:46:44.000 And you go down south and it's literally like...

01:46:48.000 It's literally rage in a cage, people throwing chairs, jumping from a roof.

01:46:53.000 Southern Georgia.

01:46:54.000 Let's grab some more.

01:46:58.000 They're a website to help people find skate lessons and such near them.

01:47:03.000 I found them because of a sign in my city about skate camp.

01:47:06.000 Maybe they could use some boards.

01:47:08.000 Indeed.

01:47:10.000 Saturday is Go Skateboarding Day.

01:47:15.000 That's nice.

01:47:16.000 Tell me.

01:47:18.000 Camp Wild Adventure says, don't let headlines like Democrats are dead lull you into thinking Republicans are destined to win.

01:47:24.000 Don't stop pushing much love from Montana.

01:47:27.000 It's true.

01:47:28.000 100%.

01:47:29.000 So true.

01:47:30.000 Okay, I want to eat Korean barbecue for dinner every day, and it's too far away. 0.52

01:47:35.000 So I'm going to open...

01:47:39.000 Winchester's not that far.

01:47:40.000 They need a Korean barbecue restaurant. 0.97

01:47:42.000 They don't already?

01:47:43.000 I don't think so.

01:47:43.000 Shocking.

01:47:44.000 They have a really great Thai restaurant, though.

01:47:45.000 They do.

01:47:46.000 Saba.

01:47:46.000 Right on the Old Town.

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:48.000 It's nice.

01:47:49.000 Winchester's great.

01:47:50.000 My girlfriend loves Winchester.

01:47:50.000 You know why I like Winchester?

01:47:51.000 Because it's the same name as a gun.

01:47:53.000 It's true.

01:47:54.000 That makes it a good place.

01:47:56.000 There's just forts everywhere.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:47:58.000 You can LARP there.

01:47:59.000 It's great.

01:48:00.000 All right.

01:48:01.000 All Nicholas says, I wonder what would happen if Iran surrendered and requested to become a U.S. territory.

01:48:06.000 How many Democrats and neocons head would explode?

01:48:10.000 That's an excellent question.

01:48:12.000 Art of the deal.

01:48:13.000 Yeah.

01:48:15.000 Copian Papi says Trump shot down Iranian missiles, preventing them from hitting their target that they fired in response to an unprovoked attack.

01:48:21.000 He's already interfered in Israel's war with Iran. 0.99

01:48:24.000 Trump is a war pig. 0.99

01:48:27.000 Yeah, fine. 1.00

01:48:28.000 I don't know.

01:48:30.000 I'm not mad that Trump is like, I'm not going to let you hit somebody.

01:48:36.000 You know what I mean?

01:48:36.000 What actually happened is that Israel interfered in U.S. negotiations with Iran, which they were told was inappropriate.

01:48:44.000 That was like 10 years ago in internet time.

01:48:46.000 I don't remember. 0.99

01:48:47.000 It's like you're at a bar with your girlfriend and then she's screaming at some guy saying, you ain't going to do nothing because you're a loser. 0.98

01:48:54.000 You can't do nothing to me. 0.99

01:48:55.000 And then she smacks the guy. 1.00

01:48:57.000 And then the guy walks over and he's going to hit your girl and it's like, Yep.

01:49:00.000 So you stop, you're like, bro, you're not hitting her.

01:49:02.000 She hit me! 1.00

01:49:03.000 And it's like, I know, but come on. 1.00

01:49:04.000 And then she's like, he's going to kick your ass now. 1.00

01:49:07.000 And you're like, oh, here we go. 1.00

01:49:08.000 She's the BPD girlfriend. 0.99

01:49:11.000 That's right.

01:49:12.000 Fact check, true.

01:49:14.000 All right.

01:49:14.000 Pinochet says, why should Republicans have to pay for the sin of slavery?

01:49:17.000 They're the ones who stopped it.

01:49:19.000 That sin was paid in blood during the Civil War.

01:49:21.000 I agree.

01:49:22.000 Technically, nobody alive today had anything to do with slavery, so maybe we should all just kind of sit down.

01:49:29.000 I do agree.

01:49:29.000 I think the 400,000 men that perished, that's a good reparation.

01:49:34.000 Yeah, it's over.

01:49:35.000 So let's stop bringing that up.

01:49:37.000 Barry Ann McGowan says, would you give away free skateboards to everyone that grew up 50 years ago and couldn't afford one?

01:49:43.000 Why give away BLM land that we taxpayers already paid for?

01:49:46.000 Because I don't want the federal government to have it.

01:49:49.000 And so the compromise is, well, I'd prefer not to give it away just on the basis of reparations, but I do slightly prefer the government not having it.

01:49:57.000 So, okay.

01:50:00.000 I don't know.

01:50:01.000 Win-win, I guess.

01:50:04.000 I don't see.

01:50:05.000 Yeah.

01:50:06.000 All right.

01:50:06.000 J.W. Velasquez says, dispensationalism is dumb.

01:50:09.000 Sorry, not sorry. 0.99

01:50:10.000 I've met dozens of them that will tell you everything from Crimea, Ukraine, and Taiwan to their GFs cheating on them was foretold in the Bible.

01:50:17.000 That's true.

01:50:18.000 Yeah, it's a big problem.

01:50:21.000 G.G. Willow says Israel is running the accounts against themselves to create sympathy.

01:50:25.000 that Their sentiment is in the gutter.

01:50:34.000 562MikeA says, I was on a flight home from the Philippines.

01:50:37.000 Two babies, 12 hours straight of crying.

01:50:38.000 It was painful.

01:50:40.000 I don't have that reaction.

01:50:42.000 No one thinks it's pleasant, but get over yourself.

01:50:45.000 They have no reason canceling headphones.

01:50:46.000 Throw a movie on.

01:50:47.000 It's not even that.

01:50:47.000 I'm not bothered by it at all.

01:50:50.000 It's not like I'm going to go, aww, babies.

01:50:51.000 I'm just like, oh.

01:50:53.000 If anything, women should be more bothered by it than men because of the trigger in your brain. 1.00

01:50:58.000 It makes their boobs lactate. 1.00

01:51:01.000 I've never experienced that. 0.97

01:51:02.000 It's true.

01:51:03.000 Personally, I've never experienced spontaneous lactation at the sound of a baby crying.

01:51:08.000 A woman who's not lactating, no. 1.00

01:51:09.000 but women who have babies and are lactating, if a baby cries, their boobs will start lactating. 1.00

01:51:15.000 I think technically if...

01:51:21.000 You can feed a child if you try.

01:51:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:25.000 So for many women, they don't produce milk when the baby is born, and then stimulation triggers the production of milk. 1.00

01:51:32.000 So that's what these trans women do. 1.00

01:51:35.000 They take the drugs that the hormones are required, but they use pumps to stimulate.

01:51:39.000 I don't know what that is.

01:51:42.000 It's colostrum.

01:51:43.000 Yeah. 0.55

01:51:44.000 Gross. 0.93

01:51:45.000 That'll be at the North Korean barbecue. 0.82

01:51:49.000 No, North Korean barbecue will just have half portions.

01:51:52.000 So when you order the pound, they'll comment it'll be a quarter pound.

01:51:57.000 I just gave away my genius idea.

01:51:59.000 Someone else is gonna do it.

01:52:00.000 Oh no!

01:52:01.000 North Korean barbecue theme restaurant?

01:52:03.000 That is a really good idea.

01:52:04.000 If someone else steals the idea, I won't be mad.

01:52:06.000 Please do it.

01:52:06.000 But if I do it, you're mad?

01:52:08.000 I wouldn't be mad if you did it either.

01:52:09.000 Oh, we're gonna open it.

01:52:11.000 I'm gonna open it in Winchester.

01:52:12.000 It's going to be the greatest thing ever.

01:52:16.000 You just buy a KBBQ and rebrand it easy enough.

01:52:21.000 Yeah.

01:52:22.000 It'll probably take a year to start a Korean barbecue.

01:52:25.000 You just buy one that already has staff and then rebrand it.

01:52:28.000 But they're not here.

01:52:28.000 They're far away.

01:52:30.000 They're all 40 minutes to an hour out.

01:52:33.000 But I wonder if there's a company you can franchise.

01:52:36.000 No, because we don't want to have their brand.

01:52:39.000 We want to be Kim Jong-un's North Korean barbecue.

01:52:41.000 We want the DMZ out front of the shop that you got across.

01:52:45.000 We want Blair's music across.

01:52:46.000 And any food you don't finish gets dispersed among all the other patrons of the restaurant?

01:52:52.000 Actually, no.

01:52:53.000 There's just one big fat Korean guy who eats all of it. 1.00

01:52:56.000 I want there to be an actual bread line, too.

01:52:58.000 Yeah.

01:52:59.000 All right.

01:53:03.000 Alright.

01:53:04.000 Let's grab some more.

01:53:06.000 Jakely says, speaking as a travel agent in the villages, they definitely love cruising.

01:53:11.000 I don't remember what that was in reference to.

01:53:13.000 The boomers? 0.96

01:53:14.000 I don't know.

01:53:15.000 Oh, the villages is the boomer village in Florida. 0.77

01:53:18.000 Oh, I see.

01:53:19.000 You know what I have been looking at, which is really crazy, is all these little islands in the middle of nowhere.

01:53:25.000 Do you want one?

01:53:27.000 No, these are cities.

01:53:28.000 So, like, let's...

01:53:30.000 Mm-hmm French Polynesia, dude.

01:53:35.000 Like, look, there's like nothing here.

01:53:36.000 That's where Tahiti is.

01:53:37.000 And then, right.

01:53:38.000 And it's just like, how do you, Bora Bora.

01:53:40.000 It's like, you've heard of Bora Bora.

01:53:41.000 Yeah.

01:53:42.000 Everybody's heard of it.

01:53:43.000 Look at that.

01:53:44.000 There's like stuff going on there.

01:53:46.000 Man, imagine.

01:53:47.000 Are those bridges?

01:53:48.000 There's things.

01:53:49.000 Okay, wow.

01:53:49.000 Look at this.

01:53:50.000 So hold on.

01:53:51.000 It's crazy.

01:53:52.000 There are people here.

01:53:54.000 What are they doing?

01:53:55.000 What do they do all day?

01:53:56.000 Here you go.

01:53:57.000 Nuku Hiva.

01:53:58.000 Look at this.

01:53:59.000 Look at this.

01:54:00.000 What are you doing down there?

01:54:01.000 Zoom in.

01:54:02.000 What's going on?

01:54:03.000 What are they planning?

01:54:03.000 Yeah, what's happening?

01:54:04.000 They're scheming there, you can tell.

01:54:06.000 That's an excellent port, by the way.

01:54:07.000 Maybe they're building a nuclear weapon.

01:54:08.000 The shape of that port is insulated.

01:54:11.000 We should go to war with them. 1.00

01:54:13.000 We should.

01:54:14.000 They're five years away from a nuclear bomb.

01:54:17.000 Look at this.

01:54:17.000 Look at that.

01:54:18.000 That's where cruises they go there. 1.00

01:54:20.000 It's a really short cruise ship.

01:54:22.000 That sounds like so much fun.

01:54:24.000 Seeing 10,000 miles away from medicine.

01:54:28.000 Doesn't that seem like a great idea?

01:54:30.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:54:31.000 Works for them.

01:54:32.000 Some of the houses are blue.

01:54:33.000 People who were on cruise ships during the beginning of COVID lockdown were legitimately abused.

01:54:40.000 Oh man, that was crazy.

01:54:43.000 All right, Kyle says, I hope Cash and Dan opened an investigation into ActBlue.

01:54:47.000 I know James O 'Keefe exposed their corruption previously, but the American people deserve to know if they were primarily funded by USAID.

01:54:55.000 Interesting.

01:54:56.000 Grits and Eggs says, 50501 now dissociating with the peacekeepers involved in Utah's fatal shooting.

01:55:04.000 Evidence is not looking good for the peacekeepers who fired shots.

01:55:07.000 And Republicans should be coming out and using this as a talking point for why there should be more access for guns and gun training.

01:55:16.000 And be like, this is why people need to have weapons.

01:55:18.000 Because these liberals, they're out there and they don't know what they're doing. 0.94

01:55:23.000 They don't got insurance and they're shooting people. 0.84

01:55:26.000 The Emperor's Champion says, this Juneteenth, let us celebrate the liberation of the Democrats' illegal immigrant serfs. 0.97

01:55:33.000 Yeah.

01:55:35.000 Agreed.

01:55:37.000 Let's see.

01:55:38.000 That one gamer says, 22-year-old who can't afford a home here, how long will it be before the Warhawks go after Sadat, I mean Gadah, I mean Khamenei?

01:55:48.000 You know, Trump is different, though.

01:55:51.000 And just because in our lifetime this is what it looked like doesn't mean that history will keep doing the same thing.

01:55:57.000 Because, you know, we had Cold War proxy wars.

01:56:00.000 Then we had regime change Middle Eastern generation. 0.97

01:56:03.000 We might be looking at something very different.

01:56:05.000 Trump said he had a phone call with Tucker and Tucker apologized and maybe convinced Trump not to do it.

01:56:13.000 Maybe Trump really is concerned he's going to split his base and doesn't want to.

01:56:15.000 Do you guys think that...

01:56:22.000 Do you guys think that he's already made his decision or no?

01:56:24.000 Yeah, I think he's putting maximum pressure on Iran.

01:56:26.000 I think he doesn't want to go to war.

01:56:28.000 He wants a deal.

01:56:29.000 But you can't negotiate from a position of weakness.

01:56:31.000 I think the Obama administration tried that with Iran and resulted in a pallet of cash getting dumped on their shores.

01:56:37.000 So I think Trump's learned from the Obama administration, but he's also not really keen on going to war.

01:56:43.000 He's also learned from the Bush administration.

01:56:47.000 Maybe.

01:56:49.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:56:51.000 Gravy Patch says, normal people look at inflation as an economic issue.

01:56:54.000 The left look at inflation as another fetish.

01:56:56.000 We're not the same.

01:56:58.000 As a fetish?

01:56:59.000 That's what he said.

01:57:00.000 Don't look it up.

01:57:02.000 Oh, God.

01:57:03.000 Oh.

01:57:05.000 Yikes.

01:57:06.000 Yeah.

01:57:06.000 Geez.

01:57:07.000 Ram Tech says, Phil, do you think we could see the Democratic Party fragmenting from this point on?

01:57:13.000 I mean, I think that there's going to be some kind of restructuring in the Democrat Party just because of the fact that they can't decide what the Democratic Party stands for.

01:57:21.000 Do they stand for progressives or do they stand for blue dog Democrats? 0.64

01:57:25.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:57:25.000 No, I think it's an excellent point.

01:57:27.000 I would actually say the Republican Party has just sort of completed going through this sort of metamorphosis, right?

01:57:32.000 I mean, there's previously the Buckley fusionism, combination of the Cold War hawks.

01:57:36.000 The religious right is for the free marketers.

01:57:39.000 And that has evolved into the modern MAGA movement, which is a combination of what we've been talking about, the populist right, the tech right.

01:57:45.000 To some extent, the Christian right also still plays a role in the coalition.

01:57:49.000 And the Democratic Party seems like they're in a state of flux right now, almost like where we were, sort of between the Bush era and, let's say, sort of peak MAGA, like Trump 2.0, coming into 2025.

01:58:04.000 And there's all these open questions, right?

01:58:05.000 I mean, in the past, the unions were a part of the Democratic Party.

01:58:10.000 That's a huge question mark.

01:58:11.000 Also, in the past, the sort of broader academic consultant managerial class was all sort of firmly in the Democratic Party, but a lot of them have been sort of destabilized by certain, you know, sort of the Harvard and McKinsey consultant types.

01:58:26.000 Their grip on power has been slightly destabilized by some of the policies of the Trump administration.

01:58:33.000 And then the other, I mean, really the client group of the Democratic Party up this point has been this sort of migrant underclass, and also with the deportations and other Trump policies.

01:58:43.000 I think that their coalition has been weakened, and I think they are in many ways quite disorganized.

01:58:49.000 And a new coalition will emerge, but it's entirely possible that the Democratic Party could look quite different.

01:58:58.000 In the next election here in 2026, it could be something like what we were talking about before, where a disaffected faction coming out of this Iran-Israel question either folds into the Democratic Party.

01:59:09.000 I've also previously talked about how certain factions in what used to be the religious right could very naturally slide into the Democratic Party, sort of the Christianity Today, Wheaton College, even some of the dispensationalist types.

01:59:21.000 This is a massive number of people that they generally hold to egalitarianism.

01:59:25.000 They're generally pro-foreign aid.

01:59:27.000 Are they an ideologically left group?

01:59:48.000 I would say that, which group specifically?

01:59:50.000 The one you're talking about, the religious group that you think that could slide into the Democrat Party.

01:59:54.000 Yeah, I would say that the leaders, for example, such as David French or people at Wheaton College and other, David French writes for the New York Times.

02:00:01.000 Yeah, exactly, these sorts of people, they, I think that up And I think that a few sort of bones thrown their way.

02:00:17.000 They hate Trump way more than they hated Biden.

02:00:21.000 And these people have tens of millions of followers who could potentially sort of shift in that direction.

02:00:26.000 So just like we gained the union voter, I would argue that there's a possibility where they gain basically the dispensationalist Christian.

02:00:33.000 They're going to gain the whole monitor vote?

02:00:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:00:36.000 They gain the whole monitor vote.

02:00:37.000 All they do is just like tattletale on the right.

02:00:40.000 It's just the worst people.

02:00:42.000 Literally, yeah.

02:00:42.000 In D.C. Yeah.

02:00:44.000 Well, I mean, if David French is among them, then it's definitely, you know.

02:00:47.000 That's what I said.

02:00:47.000 It's the Hall Monitor Coalition.

02:00:49.000 He represents a pretty sizable—they love sort of the decorum, and these are generally people who are obviously more pro-interventionists, and so this could also be a sort of a trigger or sort of a catalyst.

02:01:01.000 You don't think those people are already Democrats?

02:01:03.000 You think those people have been voting for Donald Trump?

02:01:06.000 I think David French has been—did not vote for Donald Trump.

02:01:09.000 Definitely not.

02:01:09.000 But there is a group of people who follow and listen to him who I think perhaps were, you know, they voted for Romney and McCain and Bush and maybe voted for Trump the first time, but are sort of poised to shift in to vote for maybe a center-left candidate.

02:01:24.000 I think the abortion issue is going to be make or break for them because that's kind of the one thing they all rally around.

02:01:29.000 That's correct.

02:01:30.000 And maybe what that looks like is maybe the Democratic Party softens on that issue or throws a bone, that bone or a different one towards them.

02:01:37.000 I think that in some ways, in some ways.

02:01:44.000 And you're right to identify that as the key issue.

02:01:46.000 I just don't think their base has an appetite to moderate right now.

02:01:48.000 I don't think the base has an appetite to moderate at all.

02:01:52.000 The base of the Democratic Party right now is the most progressive thing that I've ever seen in the United States.

02:02:01.000 I think they're going to get a Trump from the left.

02:02:03.000 They're going to get an outsider who's going to come in and galvanize the base.

02:02:06.000 It's obvious.

02:02:08.000 Who do you think they could be?

02:02:12.000 Yeah, it's going to be a prominent celebrity.

02:02:15.000 It has to be.

02:02:15.000 I don't think so.

02:02:17.000 I mean, for a second I was thinking Stephen A, but he's too moderate.

02:02:19.000 There's no appetite for that.

02:02:20.000 The issue is the gender stuff.

02:02:22.000 The Democrats cannot abandon it because it's a solid 10% of their base, but it sours the majority of that.

02:02:30.000 I could see, and I'm not saying him specifically, but someone in the strain of a Mark Ruffalo could easily have a pathway.

02:02:37.000 I mean, certainly in regards to a charismatic person trying to come in, but they're going to have to adhere to ideas that sour with most people.

02:02:43.000 So the Democratic Party is going to end up being 20-some-odd percent of the country.

02:02:47.000 No, I agree they're going to lose.

02:02:48.000 I'm just saying as far as what's the future of the Democrat Party, they're going to have their own outsider.

02:02:53.000 They have to drop the LGBTQ stuff. 1.00

02:02:55.000 It's not going to happen.

02:02:56.000 It's their religious adherence at this point.

02:02:59.000 Well, they can't afford to lose 10% of their fundraising.

02:03:02.000 Yeah.

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02:05:30.000 What is up?

02:05:32.000 So look at this.

02:05:34.000 Joe Rogan stunned by disturbing alien photos leaked by ex-Pentagon chief.

02:05:39.000 Yeah, but the Daily Mail censored them all.

02:05:41.000 I gotta be honest.

02:05:42.000 If I were approaching this story as someone who didn't know what was going on, and I saw that picture of Joe Rogan's face, and then this, it looks like he's looking at junk.

02:05:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:05:54.000 Like, someone shows you this photo, and they're like, look, this is Joe Rogan.

02:05:58.000 That's what he saw.

02:05:59.000 You'd be like, uh...

02:06:03.000 Yeah.

02:06:05.000 It's not very flattering, yeah.

02:06:08.000 I don't know why the Daily Mail blurred these images.

02:06:12.000 Did that come from Jeff Toobin?

02:06:17.000 Looking at alleged pictures of real aliens.

02:06:20.000 So, aliens are real.

02:06:22.000 They've proven it.

02:06:23.000 Let me see if they show the actual images here.

02:06:25.000 Oh, look at that.

02:06:26.000 Oh, gosh.

02:06:28.000 Yeah, look.

02:06:29.000 I don't know what that is.

02:06:30.000 Little aliens.

02:06:32.000 I think you'll see that at Waffle House.

02:06:33.000 You can't even really see anything.

02:06:35.000 At Waffle House?

02:06:36.000 Yeah, it's the staff.

02:06:39.000 So that's the news.

02:06:40.000 Aliens are real.

02:06:41.000 It's confirmed.

02:06:42.000 Joe Rogan proved it.

02:06:43.000 And your religions are all fake? 1.00

02:06:45.000 One of them looked like a scab. 1.00

02:06:49.000 Gross. 0.73

02:06:50.000 We are still muted. 0.94

02:06:54.000 There we go.

02:06:55.000 Yeah, well, I don't know.

02:06:57.000 What else is going on?

02:06:59.000 Aliens that look like scabs are taking over the Joe Rogan experience.

02:07:04.000 What is this one?

02:07:04.000 Oh yeah, the illegal immigrant population fell by one million in the first five months of Trump.

02:07:09.000 From self-deportation?

02:07:11.000 This one just says general.

02:07:13.000 They've only gotten out like 200,000, so it'd have to be self-deportation.

02:07:16.000 The more pressure you put, like there's a lot of people that have poo-pooed the idea of self-deportations and stuff, but the more pressure you put on illegal aliens here, the more difficult you make it for them just to live here and do normal things, the more will go away. 0.56

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