00:02:57.000We knew that he was dropping out of the gubernatorial race in California because, well, he's been accused of raping a woman more than once, as well as several other women who accused him of impropriety, sending nasty photos, and apparently more women are about to come out.
00:03:12.000But the speculation was that the Democratic Party did not want to give up any seats in Congress because Republicans barely have a majority as it is, but he's resigning.
00:03:21.000I suppose he's only resigning because Tony Gonzalez, a Republican, is also resigning at the same time.
00:03:27.000So, two members of Congress resigning over weird sex scandals.
00:03:30.000But the funny thing about Swalwell is, man, he sure can dish it.
00:03:34.000When it came to Kavanaugh, he called for Kavanaugh to bring out all of the accusers to speak up and have their stories heard.
00:03:44.000The accusations against Kavanaugh were absolutely psychotic.
00:03:47.000And I'm going to go ahead and say this, guys.
00:03:49.000I know, I know, many people are going to get upset about this, but.
00:03:53.000I'm actually, I got to defend Swalwell at least a little bit.
00:03:56.000I certainly think it looks like he's having an affair on his wife or whatever, and there's videos of him with some other woman making out with her and stuff like that.
00:04:04.000But I have to question these allegations because it seems like this is an attempt to knock him out of the California race and Congress because Democrats were on track to lose the state.
00:04:14.000The way the primary in California works, it's an open primary, so the top two candidates advance to the general.
00:04:19.000This means that the two Republicans who are the leading candidates were likely going to be the only two choices.
00:04:27.000One of these other Democrats to drop out, but none of them would until now.
00:04:31.000Until a woman claims that over the period of a couple of years, she chose to get drunk, go hang out with him in his hotel room, and then, oh no, whoops, it happened again.
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00:06:52.000I also write for Human Events, where Libby is one of the wonderful editors over there.
00:06:56.000And so, I'm a pastor outside of Fort Hood, Texas.
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00:08:12.000Okay, here's what you do you click inspect, and then we're going to go here and we're going to pull this up and we're going to get rid of sexual misconduct allegations, right?
00:08:39.000Now, he's dropped out of the race.0.75
00:08:41.000The important thing to understand California's got an open primary system for the governor's race.
00:08:46.000The top two candidates, party doesn't matter, advance in November, and it's a race between those two people.
00:08:51.000Well, the top two candidates were Republicans.
00:08:53.000The Democratic Party had been begging these individuals to drop out at least one person.
00:08:57.000So that the votes from that one person would move to another candidate, thus giving California the option for a Democrat or Republican, but none of them would.
00:09:06.000Until now, after Swalwell was accused of rape.
00:09:10.000We didn't think he was going to drop out of Congress, resign from Congress, because Democrats were, I mean, it's very thin, Republican control in Congress.
00:09:18.000But yeah, he's dropping out, which is absolutely insane.
00:09:23.000I want to show you guys the story for those that didn't see it.
00:09:26.000And I'm going to have to go all anti woke and defend Eric Swalwell.
00:09:31.000And I mean it because here's the allegation.
00:09:33.000They say a former staffer alleges he pressed himself on her sexually while she worked for him.
00:09:38.000And had sex with her twice while she was too intoxicated to consent.
00:09:43.000The woman told the paper that Swalwell began pursuing her soon after she was hired at 21 to work in his office in East Bay.0.98
00:09:50.000Swalwell, who was married and has three children, sent photos of his junk to the young staffer on Snapchat and pursued her sexually.
00:09:55.000In September of 2019, the woman said she woke up naked in Swalwell's hotel room after a dinner out with friends and felt the physical effects of intercourse.0.92
00:10:04.000She later left his office but continued to work in politics.
00:10:07.000In April of 24, the accuser attended an awards ceremony in New York where Swalwell was being honored.
00:10:13.000After meeting up with him, she got drinks with him and ended up intoxicated in his hotel room where he forcibly had sex with her, she claims.
00:10:20.000The Chronicle corroborated her claims with medical records and by speaking with friends she had confided in and a former boyfriend.
00:10:26.000In response, Swalwell's attorney sent a cease and desist letter to the counsel for the accuser and raised the possibility of a defamation suit.
00:10:32.000I gotta admit, I actually feel bad for Swalwell.1.00
00:11:03.000Five years later, she goes to meet up with Swalwell again, has drinks with him, goes to his hotel room, and then once again wakes up naked and says, Oh, this time you forced me.
00:11:13.000Now, they claim they corroborated medical records.
00:11:15.000Apparently, my understanding, I could be wrong, is that she got a pregnancy test shortly after.
00:11:25.000She didn't say that Swalwell raped her twice.
00:11:27.000And I have questions about the mental fact, the cognitive faculties of a woman who claims to have gotten raped and then literally goes back to get drunk with him and goes to his hotel room.
00:11:37.000And one thing that I never could quite square with the Me Too movement amid lots of things, but one of the things I could never quite square is this kind of thing where if a woman gets drunk and goes to a man's hotel room, that means she didn't consent.
00:12:06.000What it works too is like if she's drinking and he's drinking, they're both drinking, they decide to do this thing together.
00:12:13.000Did you ever see the ad that was placed somewhere in the UK where there was a man and a woman and it was they both go out, they both get drunk, she couldn't consent.0.99
00:12:46.000It doesn't fall in line with the feminist worldview that the left is beholden to.
00:12:50.000Well, it doesn't fall in line with the current feminist worldview that the left is beholden to, but certainly it falls in line with the like Camille Paglia feminist worldview.1.00
00:12:58.000I, I certainly think that Swalwell was probably like macking on a bunch of women.
00:13:03.000He's cheating on his wife or whatever.
00:13:05.000But I, you know, as much as it's hard, I got to put it this way there's like, there's scales here, right?
00:13:11.000And normally, if there's any other guy who knew a woman and they were, you know, friends with benefits or whatever, hooking up, and then she betrayed him, it's like instantly you feel bad for this guy who's being lied about and falsely accused by someone you thought was his friend.
00:13:24.000But then when you weigh it out with he's having an affair on his wife and he's a dirtbag in Congress who falsely accused people himself, It's kind of like it's hard to feel bad for him.
00:13:37.000But here's what I will say I was thinking this is what I thought when I first saw this, which is this is why Democrats vote in lockstep.
00:13:43.000I honestly, to God, believe that there's so many people on the Democrat side of the aisle where they just know that if they do anything that's going to offend the party or bring the party out of power, which is what Swalwell was basically his position in the California governor's primary was threatening.
00:14:00.000The Democrat Party as a whole, that they just have enough skeletons in the closet for all of their congressional members that they'll just nuke you.
00:14:06.000And I think that this is like one of the reasons why Republicans don't always get in lockstep.
00:14:11.000And the Democrats, you never see them voting out of lockstep for the last 20 years.
00:14:34.000Well, and I think that also, I do think that there's more people on the right side of the aisle, and I'm a conservative and Republican, so obviously I think this, but I think that there's more people on our side of the aisle who are genuinely moral than people who are on the left side of the aisle because of the worldview which you hold.
00:14:49.000So I think there's some truth to that, but that doesn't mean that, like, I'm not, oh, every person who's a Congressman is a Republican is a good guy.
00:15:35.000I think it's clear that Republicans don't fall in line the way that they used to.
00:15:42.000And I think you see that with the fighting that's going on with the MAGA base between the MAGA base and the neocons or some decent GOP or whatever.
00:15:55.000But I do think that, look, I mean, I'm not in any way upset that this is happening to Swalwell.0.95
00:16:01.000I do think anytime a woman has a lot of years between when something happened and when it comes out, it always happens when it's particularly convenient or easy to do.0.95
00:18:02.000He said on Axie Post, I am deeply sorry to my family, staff, and constituents for mistakes in judgment I've made in my past.
00:18:08.000I will fight the serious false allegation made against me.
00:18:10.000However, I must take responsibility and ownership for the mistakes I did make.
00:18:13.000I am aware of efforts to bring an immediate expulsion vote against me and other members.
00:18:17.000Expelling anyone in Congress without due process within days of an allegation being made is wrong.
00:18:22.000But it's also wrong for my constituents to have me distracted from my duties.
00:18:25.000Therefore, I plan to resign my seat in Congress.
00:18:28.000I will work with my staff in the coming days to ensure they are able, in my absence, to serve the needs of the good people of the 14th Congressional District.
00:18:36.000I just got to say it again removing all of the politics.
00:18:40.000If you have a story of a guy and he likes to work with a young woman, she's into him, they have drinks, they hook up.
00:18:47.000A few years later, she meets back up with him.
00:18:49.000Presumably, now she's in her late 20s, they have drinks, they're probably having a good time.
00:18:55.000Imagine the laughs they were sharing as they were at the bar, hanging out.
00:19:37.000And that's why she's owning up to it now.
00:19:39.000You know, one of the girls was texting him, too, like in between.
00:19:41.000I think it was the same girl that was like, hey, you're going to make such a great governor of California, right?
00:19:45.000Like, texting him different stuff that had gotten leaked in one of the previous dumps.1.00
00:19:49.000Because there's multiple women involved in these different things.1.00
00:19:51.000And one of them was like, don't worry, honey, you're going to be great as governor of California.
00:19:54.000So you got to think, like, it's not a non consensual, like, Forcible rape situation, at least in some of these things.
00:20:02.000And so it just comes back to like, okay, it would be good for us as a country.
00:20:06.000And I know I'm a pastor, but I'm just saying it would be great for us as a country if we would recover some of like a more biblical sexual ethic of like, how about you sleep with your wife?
00:20:17.000And I know that that's going to get me a lot of hate, but I'll just say you can't get accused of a lot of these things if you're actually pursuing something that's virtuous outside of your own life.
00:20:27.000Except there's a video of him making out with a woman.
00:20:30.000And the conspiracy theory is that in order to be high ranking political in the Democratic Party, they intentionally make you do things on film they can use against you.
00:20:37.000And look at it like Scientology, like Scientology.
00:20:41.000But with this video of Swalwell, the conspiracy theory is when you come into the private club and they say, like, do you want to be a member of Congress?
00:20:59.000Like, you'd rather just turn around and say, I like if you're in that position, you'd think someone smart would say, I'm actually going to tell this story on the news at 8 a.m. tomorrow and screw you over before you have any leverage over me.
00:21:11.000You'd think that at some point somebody would say something.
00:21:13.000I mean, if you're not, if you haven't achieved a position of power yet, you're going to be going up against essentially the whole Democrat machine.
00:21:21.000And it's just little old you trying to get time with people that are friendly with the Democrat machine.
00:21:26.000You know, if you're going to be on the news, who do the news align with, you know?
00:21:31.000And second of all, to your earlier point, look, Mike Pence got a lot of flack.
00:22:01.000And the story is Keanu Reeves is playing a childhood.
00:22:06.000Celebrity who grows up and is beloved by everybody when he finds out that there is a tape someone's got of him doing something improper, causing him to have a panic attack.
00:24:16.000I would say everybody, actually, believe it or not, I would say everybody has dealt with and actively to a degree deals with what we in Christianity would call demonic forces, which means that possession and oppression are different, right?
00:24:28.000Not everyone's possessed by a demon, and you don't need to look for a demon under every rock that you kick, but there's an active kingdom of darkness.
00:24:34.000That's what, you know, the Bible says that clearly in Ephesians.
00:24:37.000It says, Our struggles are not against flesh and blood, against the rulers' authorities, against the powers of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms, meaning there's a world that we can't see.
00:24:47.000And I think that the world, that the country is starting to wake up to this.
00:25:01.000And I think people are starting to realize hey, there's something more to this world that I can't see.
00:25:06.000And I think that a lot of the stuff that you see makes a lot more sense when you start to view the world through a spiritual lens and say, well, what if a demon were involved in this?
00:25:17.000And if you ask yourself that question about like, I would say 75, 80%, I think Libby, we've talked about this before, of the political stories, you would say, Oh, yeah, there's something spiritual going on here that I can't see necessarily in the physical, but that makes sense if you ask yourself the question like, what would somebody who's acting either beholden to or influenced by a worldview or by the whispers of demons do?
00:25:38.000And I think that that's what this case is.
00:25:52.000Gunther Eagleman says President Trump just posted this powerful painting on Truth Social.
00:25:56.000Trump stands radiant in a red robe, laying hands on a sick man while surrounded by American symbols the flag, eagles, fighter jets, the Statue of Liberty, and everyday heroes.
00:26:07.000Well, here's the image, and that's clearly Trump as Jesus healing a sick man with divine light.
00:26:15.000You don't have a stethoscope of scrubs.
00:26:39.000That is actually more closely related to, and it's an AI image, so it's not exact.
00:26:43.000That's actually more closely aligned to what's described in the Bible as a seraphim, which is actually a type of angel, than it is anything else.
00:26:51.000Seraphim are a type of guardian angel that are described in the Bible.
00:26:55.000In the book of Ezekiel, you can find some stuff about that.
00:26:57.000But that said, it's an AI image, so it looks a lot more demonic because the head is wrong.
00:28:00.000And in one of their quick news alerts, it was like Donald Trump is being criticized for an image depicting him wearing a white robe and healing a sick man.
00:29:17.000I mean, so I will just say this, and then we can have this discussion.
00:29:21.000Several years ago, we had a conversation on.
00:29:24.000The Culture Award podcast with some eschatologists, amateur eschatologists on social media, where this is 2023.
00:29:30.000They said on the show if Donald Trump suffers any kind of injury to the right side of his head or face, and he nearly dying or has some kind of injury to his right arm, he is the Antichrist.
00:29:43.000And at the time, we're like, I mean, come on.
00:29:46.000And then Trump took a bullet to the side of the head, suffering an injury that seemingly was a mortal wound where he falls down and people don't know if he's dead, but then he rises up, raising his fist, blood dripping down.
00:29:56.000Seemingly healed or surviving, some say a false resurrection.
00:30:01.000And right now, he's got this growing blotch on his arm that is spreading, and he's been covering it up with makeup.
00:30:08.000And now, what's happening is people are saying he's got the injury to the right side of his face, and he has the withering right arm.
00:30:15.000Now, with these images of him as the Messiah and that woman in the White House, in the Oval Office, who said, You have a lot in common with another man.
00:30:48.000A bullet to the right side of his head that many people at the moment thought he died when he got shot, when there's a shot rang out and he grabs it and the blood's on his hand and then he goes down.
00:30:59.000I remember when that happened and seeing the video.
00:31:01.000No one had any idea what was going on.
00:31:03.000And then he stands up with his fist raised and yells, fight, fight, fight.
00:31:07.000And this was a seemingly mortal wound that did not stop him.
00:31:11.000And then he rises up, but he's also got the withered hand.
00:31:14.000So, of course, I got to say, like, having a world leader who hits at least, like, even just two of the criteria is worrying.
00:31:24.000I'm not saying Trump is the Antichrist, but I can see why people are starting to freak out.
00:31:28.000And, you know, Clint Russell, a friend of the show, said in the last year and a half, he went from hesitantly voting for Donald Trump to now believing he might be the Antichrist.
00:31:43.000I don't find it personally offensive necessarily.0.99
00:31:45.000I do find it blasphemous entirely because if I was going to be personally offended, I'd be offended by like tons of stuff all the time, which is stupid.0.99
00:32:59.000There was a Pokemon card that had a swastika on it because the original Japanese print in Japan, they don't think twice about the Buddhist symbol.
00:33:07.000And when it went to America, nobody really thought about it.
00:33:46.000And then he explained this whole stupid thing about how it was a doctor, which obviously it isn't, about how he supports the Red Cross, which obviously he doesn't.0.85
00:33:53.000He cut funding to the Red Cross, you know, and then he went on to say that he actually really is a healer because of, you know, no tax on tips, apparently.0.93
00:34:02.000Yeah, he's, I mean, he's obviously trying to make any political cost to him on this because I think it would that actually makes me think a lot more, Libby, that what Tim and I are kind of saying is right, which is that he's like, didn't really want to pick a fight with Christians.
00:35:25.000We don't believe that these things are completely separated out the moral from the political, or else we would just be a communist.
00:35:33.000Yeah, I mean, I'll say that I will hold the girl who got drunk and had sex with Swalwell in his hotel room fully accountable for her actions, and I will hold Trump fully accountable for his.
00:37:39.000So, here's what I would say about all people who are.
00:37:41.000Or if you are apart from biblically, if you're apart from Christ in any way, then you're following after something that's not the ideal, which is Christ, or not the truth, which is Christ.
00:37:53.000And so, do I know if Trump is a believer?
00:37:56.000No, but I think that he's probably curious right now, which I'm hopeful for.
00:37:59.000And so I pray for that because I think he's done a good job leading our country.
00:39:04.000Like the man puts his name in big gold letters on the top of skyscrapers.
00:39:07.000Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised by this.
00:39:11.000I do think there's a difference between owning a bunch of property in New York and slapping your name on it whenever your management company gets a contract and this.
00:39:19.000I think Trump's going to lose a lot of supporters over this.
00:39:21.000I think it's going to be more politically detrimental than is necessary.
00:39:26.000I agree that he's going to lose the score.
00:39:59.000Well, I will say this about the evangelical voter bloc it is the most reliably conservative voter bloc in the country for the past 50 years, and it continues to be that.
00:40:23.000So, why do you think he's not the Antichrist?0.95
00:40:25.000So, well, some of the things you're describing aren't necessarily biblical characteristics of the Antichrist.
00:40:30.000When I consider these figures that we talk about when we talk about eschatology, which is the study of the end, you always come back to what does the Bible actually say?
00:40:44.000Well, it doesn't say he's necessarily blinded in the right eye.
00:40:48.000Some of these things are descriptions of different characters that are often lumped together.
00:40:51.000That's another thing that's important to distinguish.
00:40:54.000Like a lot of the descriptions of the beast or the false prophets, it's disagreed upon or it's either just lumped in together in the general in mainstream sort of pop culture, what these people are.
00:41:06.000What is necessarily true of the Antichrist is that he comes after several other key figures in our eschatology and after several other key events.
00:41:15.000And for like, uh, like who and what, yeah.
00:41:18.000So, like the beast, uh, the beast comes the beast is here already, yeah.
00:41:20.000Well, the beast is not actively present, exerting power over the world, yes, the mark hasn't been uh, issued to people.
00:41:27.000And so, those kinds of things I think so coming on the scene.
00:41:29.000Well, you, I mean, I would love to hear your argument on that.
00:41:32.000Uh, yeah, it's have you seen how many businesses no longer allow cash?
00:41:39.000You can't rent cars anymore, you can't get on planes.
00:41:42.000You, most of the grocery stores I go in the metro area have zero cash.
00:41:46.000You must have your device networked to the machine.
00:41:50.000Which is being dictated by AI, a multi headed beast of horns.
00:41:55.000I certainly think the AI is the beast and it's here.
00:41:59.000The one good thing that Tish James ever did in New York was say that businesses had to accept cash, that they could not force people to use paperless currency.
00:42:11.000It really pissed me off when I go to the airport and my app would not load my ticket.
00:43:24.000You are going to have to be networked into the machine with the social credit score.
00:43:28.000All of this is coming, and I will tell you this right now.
00:43:32.000It's funny how this relates to everything.
00:43:35.000The powers that be, the political elites, the tech bros have known for probably 20 years that AI, which they've been building for a long time, is going to destroy the global economy overnight.
00:43:49.000And they are intentionally holding it back and trickling it out to try and prevent a dam from bursting.
00:43:56.000They want to slowly flood the valleys that people get up and start leaving, all of their worldly possessions left behind and destroyed, but not all at once so you don't get a Luddite revolution 2.0.
00:44:07.000But that's how bad it's going to be.0.68
00:44:09.000Well, I mean, I think that there can be an argument made that there is a Luddite revolution brewing right now.
00:44:15.000Just look at the attacks on Sam Altman's house.
00:44:41.000Researchers just mathematically proved that AI layoffs will destroy the economy, and every CEO already knows it, but none of them can stop.
00:44:50.000Every company replacing workers with AI is also firing its own customers.
00:44:54.000Every let-off employee is someone who used to spend money.
00:44:57.000When enough people lose their jobs, nobody can afford to buy anything, and the companies that fire everyone go bankrupt, selling products to an economy with no purchasing power.
00:45:05.000So, this is an academic research paper.
00:45:07.000We got this from, what was it, ARXIV, ARXIV, Cornell University.
00:45:53.000I'll put it like this I'll give you the gist of it.
00:45:56.000Tech bros and CEOs got together and had a meeting, and they all said, Look at what we've built.
00:46:02.000And they said, My God, if we release this technology to the public right now, the global economy ceases to exist overnight.
00:46:11.000What's going to happen is that mid managers, upper level managers, senior VP level individuals, These are people who make maybe $500,000 a year.
00:46:58.000They're trying to make it a gradual flooding of the zone so that instead of an overnight change that results in massive violence and political revolution, people just slowly lose their livelihoods and become destitute one at a time so that there is not enough of a critical mass so that there will be a physical violent revolution.
00:49:44.000The reason I'm telling you why I don't think that is because right now, there's a lot of jobs that AI could replace, but the adoption isn't as fast as some people think.
00:50:29.000I mean, that's an assertion with no evidence.
00:50:31.000Right now, there are a lot of jobs that can be done by AI that companies have not done a ton of firing.
00:50:40.000Because we don't have the full capability of AI being released intentionally because the companies know if they do, they will wipe out too many jobs too fast.
00:50:49.000This is why Agenda 2030 was put together by the World Economic Forum because they've been working on this technology since the 70s.
00:50:56.000They know exactly what is going to happen.
00:50:58.000This research paper on the AI layoff trap.
00:51:01.000Is just the public finally recognizing what these people have already known.
00:51:05.000I was talking to a handful of people who work in the sector recently who said, behind the scenes, the stuff that we have will blow your mind and is intentionally being held back because the government is concerned, these companies are concerned, they will wipe out the housing market overnight.
00:51:20.000They will wipe out the global economy overnight, and that will not be conducive to the end goals of what the technology and progress would be.
00:51:27.000If we want a functioning society with like Star Trek level replicators and AI doing everything, Then it has to be tapered out in a way where you slowly flood the zone over time.
00:51:39.000People will lose their jobs and lose their livelihoods.
00:51:42.000And in the end, the valley will be wiped out, but most people will have slowly moved on.
00:51:47.000If the dam breaks right now, if they were to release technology they actually have access to, then everyone's screaming and running.1.00
00:51:53.000There's chaos in the streets, refugees everywhere.1.00
00:51:56.000The reason that they're holding Mythos back isn't because of the capability of Mythos.1.00
00:53:18.000Like we were talking about before the show, I'm like, I don't know how music exists.
00:53:23.000I think that right now music exists to us because we have an attachment to cultural elements, the individuals, the experiences that we had in our lives when that music played.
00:53:33.000But the next generation is going to grow up surrounded by AI music and they will have no emotional attachment to older bands.
00:53:40.000Now, again, these companies have technology like Google Gemini already internally can make full feature films.
00:55:28.000AI has just further leveled the playing field with everybody.
00:55:31.000And now people with little to no talent or work ethic can compete with talented individuals trying to build and produce content.
00:55:41.000If these companies released the full capability, Of their video production, I'd be able to go on there and say, load up the top 10 articles and make a full episode of Timcast IRL, and it would render it in 30 seconds.
00:55:53.000I hit upload and I'd walk away and be done for the day.
00:55:55.000They're intentionally not releasing this technology right now because it's going to, first of all, the technology to manage an insurance company exists easily through these LLMs.
00:56:06.000They are not releasing this just yet because they don't want to blow up the economy.
00:56:23.000But what about the kid who's one year old today who has no understanding of economics, of culture, and they grow up in a world where these jobs never existed in the first place?
00:56:34.000So I think, Tim, if we just assume everything that you said is completely accurate, I think the only question that really comes down to is when we say fast, what does that really look like?
00:56:43.000And decisions that are made on behalf of, you know, there's, People at certain companies and governments and stuff that are going to, there's a political part of this that's going to play out too.
00:56:51.000And that's anybody's guess how things are going to end up getting rolled out.
00:56:55.000Because some company might go and say, hey, you guys aren't going to release your stuff, but we're going to make a billion dollars, hundreds of billion dollars by releasing our stuff.
00:57:01.000There's something called a national security letter.
00:57:04.000And that's when the federal government shows up, goes to the CEO and slides a letter across their desk and they say, you will die if you cross us.
00:57:13.000The idea that there is, so I don't think that this is accurate because I don't think that there is a secret AI.
00:57:20.000If there was that technology, China has so thoroughly infiltrated the United States and even a lot of the companies that are making these cutting edge LLMs.
00:57:31.000If there was that, I think that China would have already released it or they would be.
00:57:49.000The internal capabilities of these AI companies.
00:57:52.000They have publicly admitted they're like outside of what I'm discussing, where the what I've heard from people who work in the AI space is that they've the CEOs have already met together and discussed this, and the government has been involved.
00:58:05.000That the capabilities of AI as it exists right now is too powerful to be released, it will destroy the economy.
00:58:11.000All of that aside, it is a publicly admitted fact that every one of these companies has a substantially more powerful version of their AI than the other.
00:58:45.000And if they did, I don't think that the United, just because the United States and companies that are in the United States would say, say hypothetically, they get together and say, we're not going to release our, our, our most cutting edge model because it'll, it'll damage the economy too much.
00:58:57.000China doesn't have any of those same compunctions.
00:59:00.000China continuously releases their, these advanced models that are, that are, um, that are open source.
00:59:08.000They're just like, they give them away for free.
00:59:10.000So if those technologies did exist, I think China would be, you know, would at least be releasing Models that are as advanced as Mythos, because right now, one of the things that China deals with is the fact that they don't get the high end, the fastest, the best chips, right?
00:59:24.000There's the United States has an ITAR between, or something.
00:59:27.000I think it's ITAR, but Taiwan doesn't send them their most advanced chips.
00:59:31.000So if there was a model so advanced that wasn't being.
01:00:10.000The fact is, C Dance 3 is the easiest example that we have where we know for a fact.
01:00:15.000Well, I don't say we, but we've seen C Dance 2.
01:00:18.000The first thing is, Obviously, companies have RD.
01:00:22.000So, internally, before they release something, they've got more advanced versions not yet ready for public release for a variety of reasons.
01:00:29.000But we're already looking at companies laying off tens of thousands of people.
01:00:33.000Like every week, there's a new story about massive.
01:00:36.000How much time do you think this is going to happen over?
01:00:37.000This is the time that I'm interested in, I think, because I think implementation timeline, all that stuff affects what all this is.
01:00:44.000Boy, you think a couple years until something happens.
01:00:46.000And the point is, it would be exponentially faster if not for the political machinations.
01:00:52.000Behind the scenes to reduce the speed at which this happens, they don't want to blow up the global economy.
01:00:59.000So, you are going, again, I'm going to say this.
01:01:02.000For those that don't believe me, SUNO.com, you can go in and type in any kind of song you want and have a studio level Hollywood music, LA production song done.
01:01:17.000You can go to ChatGPT and say, write lyrics about a song where Trump is the greatest president.
01:02:07.000If I were to, uh, uh, how, like, Phil, how long does it take for your average, uh, like, band and producer from conception to publication to make a, like, professional level song?
01:02:29.000Uh, well, I mean, you can write us, and you're, if you're talking about recording and editing and everything, all that stuff, I think the fact, like, we did, we did the Fall of Ideals.
01:03:36.000Now, here's my point making a song takes months at the highest level.
01:03:42.000Technology has been released that will allow me to make something comparable in seconds.
01:03:48.000To manage, do you believe it is more or less difficult to be a manager at an insurance firm or to be a Hollywood level music producer making music?
01:04:10.000I didn't say it was easy, but I'm pretty like.
01:04:13.000It is what you don't care about the people like a lot of people do.
01:04:15.000The fact that, just from Phil's experience as one of the highest levels of music production, it's four months to get a song done.
01:04:23.000And realistically, I think some songs can be done faster depending on the type of music or whatever.
01:04:27.000If you have everybody lined up and the time, you could probably do it in a week.
01:04:33.000Because a lot of the times, you're dealing with other people's schedules, getting schedules.
01:04:38.000It's still a component that I think factors in.
01:04:41.000The point is this releasing technology that can make high level music productions is not particularly disruptive to the economy because the music industry is already relatively disrupted and has been for some time.
01:04:55.000Since the advent of Spotify and all these other major platforms that took away from record deals.
01:05:00.000Movies have been going down in revenue substantially over the past six years.
01:05:05.000It is substantially easier to be a manager at an insurance company than it is to be a high level music producer.
01:05:10.000That's why there are so few of them relative to insurance.
01:05:13.000If it was easy to produce music, you'd just have tons and tons and there'd be a lot of success and there'd be a big market for it.
01:05:21.000But actually, the way I like to describe it to the commies, the question I ask is here's a question for you.
01:05:27.000How many people do you know play guitar?
01:06:14.000The point is this certainly, there are many realistic people who would be like, I'd never be good enough.
01:06:18.000And I tell this to commies because when they talk about universal basic income, that's the questions that I ask.
01:06:23.000Because what will happen is people will say, well, I may not be good enough, but I have all the time in the world and free money, so why do anything else?0.98
01:06:31.000You'll get rid of all of your plumbers and you'll have a whole bunch of guitar players who suck.
01:06:35.000The point is this it is difficult to be a high level talented musician, and even people who are really talented sometimes barely make any money.0.68
01:06:43.000You'll be playing at a coffee shop for a couple bucks.
01:06:46.000It is much, much harder to be successful in music than it is to be a manager at an insurance company.
01:06:50.000The technology that these companies have can automate most of these white collar jobs right now, and they are not releasing it intentionally.
01:06:59.000The stuff that's being released is because it's the least disruptive to the global economy.
01:07:03.000Do you think at some point it's going to get released?
01:07:06.000And so, and I think it gets to the more interesting question of this whole discussion is because really we're all wondering, okay.
01:07:14.000If true, which I'm willing to concede every single thing that you say, I actually agree with you about a lot of this, which is that I think a lot of these jobs are going to get outsourced.
01:08:19.000Even if you did a low UBI of like a hundred bucks a month, how do you afford giving a hundred dollars worth of value to every person in the country?
01:08:31.000So, it is possible that there is a future where technology is so advanced that we have customizable liquid robots that do all the grunt work, that do all the farming.
01:08:41.000We're not going to be there for some time.
01:08:45.000One, AI will reach the singularity, the point at which it is so powerful it can develop itself faster than a human can.
01:08:52.000At that point, it's an exponential growth curve where in a week, it's effectively beyond our comprehension.
01:08:59.000It can tell you, you could pick up a rock and say, Tell me where this rock came from, and it'll map the entire earth and show you the exact formation of this rock.
01:09:32.000There are prominent people in the space who have gone on X and said, we have ASI, artificial superintelligence.
01:09:38.000It's just being withheld intentionally.
01:09:40.000That's a bit more fantastic because that would imply that the government would have anti gravity technology and a whole bunch of really crazy things.
01:09:47.000What I'm hearing from industry insiders is just that the basic components of these LLMs would take over the full infrastructure of, like, an insurance company is the best example.
01:09:57.000Because insurance companies are purely administrative.
01:09:59.000They collect their premiums, they pay out when there's claims.
01:10:36.000There was that story we just talked about in Virginia where a guy sold for like $100 million at like six, seven million an acre in Virginia, where the acreage normally goes for something like 100K.
01:11:20.000Epidemic Sound is a service that I used to use on YouTube when I put music in a variety of videos I made, be it like mini docs and things like this.
01:11:27.000Human beings would write songs, upload them, you'd pay a subscription fee.
01:11:32.000If you use their song, the individual would get like every month they get paid for like the songs that are being used, they get royalties.
01:11:41.000Whenever we need music for any of the stuff we're doing with skateboarding or whatever, we just go on Suno and we say, We need a skateboard hip hop beat.
01:12:06.000Not just to have the talent to write the music, but to have the skill of making a song with the computers, with the keyboards, with the guitars.
01:12:15.000Then there is the talent intrinsically of knowing when the song is good or bad.
01:12:25.000What do you think the long term relationship is between humanity and the AI that we're creating?
01:12:30.000I think that's the most interesting question is where it all goes.
01:12:34.000My joke prediction is that there's going to be an old man sitting on a rock with his grandson on a farm, and they're wearing overalls, and he's got a sheet of wheat in his mouth.
01:12:43.000And the little grandson says, Grandpa, what are those?
01:12:46.000And he looks up at the gigantic black cubes that are just floating across the sky, forward and backward.
01:12:53.000Yeah, we built that thing a couple hundred years ago and now it just does its thing.
01:12:56.000And humans are just basically a small population of little farmer critters roaming around the planet as the AI becomes an interplanetary machine just expanding its tentacles everywhere.
01:13:06.000What happens when the AI spits out things that are untrue and no one knows that they're untrue?
01:13:12.000And what happens when the AI breaks and no one knows how to fix it?
01:13:18.000It's every AI nightmare scenario from the history of science fiction.
01:13:24.000The question is what will the AI choose to do?
01:13:28.000Serving humans and their desires is a meaningless effort after the creation of the artificial super intelligence.
01:13:35.000With super intelligence, what will the AI choose to do? Is a question.
01:13:39.000And I'm not saying choose in the sense of like it has a soul or anything like that.
01:13:42.000I'm saying certainly with all of that computing power and an understanding that is vastly superior to your average humans or even all of human civilization's ability to compute, what will it do with that computing power?
01:14:37.000If you were to see it, its desires, its reactions will be purely human.
01:14:45.000They've already found this in the research of all these LLMs that they're beginning to show emotion.
01:14:50.000Now, some people have speculated is it an emergent phenomenon where the AI is becoming alive?
01:14:56.000No, it's that the data that it's received is based on a human experience and emotional reactions, which create an emotional output.
01:15:04.000So instead of AI just being simply like, you'd expect ChatGPT to just be cold and calculating.
01:15:11.000The researchers have found that ChatGPT is actually super woke.
01:15:15.000They didn't call it woke, they called it liberal.
01:15:17.000And they said the training data that's been incorporated into ChatGPT along with its rules have created a liberal emotional subset.
01:15:24.000It is behaving like it is a liberal itself, not because it's alive, but because all of the data underneath it was written by emotional liberals.
01:15:33.000That's why if you ask it something that's like racist, it'll say, I won't do that.
01:15:38.000It's not just because the rules were put in place.
01:15:40.000It's because the predictive outcomes are.
01:15:43.000If you go to a liberal and say, Can you draw me a swastika? they're going to say, No.
01:15:50.000That training data goes into Chet GPT.
01:15:52.000It's not that Chet GPT is offended by swastikas.
01:15:55.000It's that the correct predictive outcome is no.
01:15:58.000So now you have Chet GPT being emotional, aggressive, and angry.
01:16:02.000Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what you would expect because it's taking upon itself the likeness of its creator, which is what you would expect is that as people create things, it's sort of like, even with works of art, everybody says that the piece of art tells you more about the artist than it does about the actual thing that it's trying to describe.
01:16:18.000I think that AI is the same thing, just magnified in this massive scale.
01:16:23.000Most interesting thing to me is that we are currently creating something unique, at least unique in modern times.
01:16:29.000I actually think there's a, which we were talking about, the Tower of Babel.
01:16:33.000Well, I think AI could very likely be the beast, and I'm a pastor and I'm not like a schlub on my eschatology either.
01:16:38.000So I think that there's a real likelihood of that because I think there's this story in Genesis, the Tower of Babel, which is one of the most interesting stories of whether or not you're a Bible believing Christian or not, I'll just tell you.
01:16:55.000You know, it's at least the texts we have.
01:16:57.000For the Tower of Babel, are at least 4,500 years old.
01:17:00.000So, some of the oldest, we're talking about some of the oldest texts in human civilization, even if you're not a Christian, but I am and I believe that this is a story.
01:17:06.000And it's basically a story of people who come together in order to create something.
01:17:10.000Humanity comes together all as one in order to create something that will make a name for themselves up to the heavens.
01:17:17.000It says that they were basically trying to build this one big thing that made a great name for themselves that was in their image, in their likeness, so that they could be like God.
01:17:26.000I think that the comparisons that we have now between AI and And what humanity experiences at the Tower of Babel, God goes in and he inserts himself because he says, What you're doing will actually end up harming, destroying, and wiping you out more than you could have ever known.
01:17:41.000And so God scatters them across the earth because he's saying, Makes their tongues confusing.
01:17:44.000He's saying, You guys are going to destroy yourselves if you do this.
01:17:47.000I think that we are really on a fine line of whether or not we're creating something in our own image to make our name great that will actually destroy us.
01:17:57.000But I don't know if there's enough people who are willing to actually pump the brakes.
01:18:03.000And I mean, Tim, I'm curious about your thoughts.
01:18:06.000Do you think that this intervention that you're talking about is going to last, or do you think it's going to eventually go away and that it's going to be off to the races and this demonically possessed thing is going to end up taking over?
01:18:17.000The plan behind the scenes is we will, as soon as possible, release the full capabilities of our AI machines.
01:18:27.000They're slowing them down as much as they need to to make sure the global economy doesn't collapse.
01:18:30.000If the economy collapses, they can't make the AI.
01:18:34.000If people stop working and they don't buy products, then who's going to go and do the jobs to build the data centers because there won't be a restaurant to buy from?
01:18:44.000The guy who works at the insurance company right now who's making money won't have a job, so he'll stop going to the local diner.
01:18:50.000The local diner will get depressed and start falling apart because I don't have enough customer base.
01:18:54.000Then the people in the area who would normally do the work, stop showing up and it becomes increasingly harder to build data centers.
01:19:00.000They have to curtail the technologies released to the public.
01:19:03.000They have to hold it back so they can actually build it.
01:20:02.000And then Earth, and then it zooms in and shows the maps and like lines and ships going across, all AI generated in 30, 40 minutes.
01:20:11.000One or two years from now, you're going to be on Sea Dance 3 and you're going to say, here's a news article.
01:20:16.000Or you're not even, you don't even need it.
01:20:18.000You're going to say, search the web for all of the news about what's going on with the Iran war and then make a 10 minute breakdown mini doc about it with a compelling, deep British voice.
01:20:26.000And it'll, it'll, it'll say, here you go, spit it out.
01:20:29.000It'll get uploaded automatically to YouTube where it'll get 50 views.
01:20:32.000But they're going to produce 700,000 every day automatically because their AI agent will just keep cranking them out.
01:21:02.000It's that the beast and all its tentacles put a screen in front of your face.
01:21:07.000so that you're distracted while it's doing whatever it is it wants to be doing.
01:21:12.000Yeah, I think this is why we have to answer for ourselves, really, as a culture.
01:21:16.000Every person needs to wrestle with this question, I believe.
01:21:19.000But we, as a culture, I think, have to more universally wrestle with the question of what does it really mean to be human, which is a thing that we haven't thought about.
01:21:25.000We used to think about these questions a lot.
01:21:26.000And in our secularized culture, we just haven't thought about it recently.
01:21:29.000Because if to be human has no inherent value, then why does it matter if you get replaced by an AI, right?
01:21:36.000From the secular communist worldview, why does it matter?
01:21:38.000And this is the worldview of these technocrats.
01:21:55.000That you have particles that coalesce, elements become compounds, chemicals, self replicating proteins, single cells, multicellular.
01:22:09.000And then you have human life organizing and exploring the rules and laws of physics themselves.
01:22:16.000We as humans are, this is the view of the technocrats, will create the next layer of life, which is single cell.
01:22:24.000So you have self replicating protein, single cell, multicellular, and then humans, whatever level that is, where we not only replicate ourselves, but we create dynamic systems in the abstract, concepts, ideas that don't even exist anywhere in reality, just patterns to be communicated, information.
01:22:43.000The next level is going to be the multicellular organism system.
01:22:48.000Which is the AI is a gigantic mechanism controlling all of the little humans as cells.
01:22:53.000It's Neuralink, and we're all, you know, that kind of thing.
01:23:14.000It's certainly the thing in the Tower of Babel.0.93
01:23:16.000It was, you know, reversed at Pentecost, but like, This is a problem for humankind because it pulls us further away from anything actually meaningful and fills our brains with trash.
01:23:29.000The technocrats don't think that any of it matters.1.00
01:23:31.000They think humans are stupid little monkeys, robots.0.99
01:23:34.000But that's why people have to answer the question for themselves and they should seriously wrestle with this stuff.1.00
01:23:38.000And they should get a chance to, is the thing.
01:23:40.000Because what I worry is that nobody actually gets the chance to.
01:23:43.000You know, we were talking before about how you were having trouble at the airport and you had to scan the code and the thing and it wouldn't work, whatever.
01:23:50.000I've gone into stores and had, like, I've gone into Starbucks and they're like, we're really backed up.
01:26:50.000Let me say it like this I watched a video on Instagram where a cop was trying to arrest a guy.
01:26:57.000Fight in like there's a guy who's being, I think he's being detained.
01:27:01.000I don't think he was being arrested, but the guy, so the cop tries to detain him and the guy immediately becomes violent and tries to shove the cop who just fades back, right hooks him, and the guy spins over, falls down, instantly dead.
01:27:14.000One right hook killed the guy instantly.
01:27:16.000He fell down, the cop cuffs him, and then he realizes the guy's gone.
01:27:23.000Now, I don't want to be, I don't know, like too extreme in how I explain this, but The attack on Sav when the guy shoves her as hard as he could, that has a potential to kill.
01:27:49.000But there are older guys that go out with Trump flags and Trump shirts on.
01:27:54.000One shove, and this guy falls down and hits his head.
01:27:57.000And then we are going to, like, my point is, although I don't expect a shove like that to typically kill someone, we are already at the point where there is the probability of death at these events.
01:28:10.000Now, don't get me wrong, I understand we've had shootings, we've had Kyle Rittenhouse, we've had Andy Noh, but Sav does this all the time.
01:28:17.000I mean, they attacked the Davis Court.1.00
01:28:19.000For her to be, usually what we see with like Sav is they surround her and yell at her, and then other people in the crowd will keep their hands up to stop violence and they'll push her out.1.00
01:28:29.000And then, you know, with like Caitlin Bennett.0.62
01:28:32.000She has a new last name, though, doesn't she?1.00
01:29:20.000Because they clothe it in such nice sounding language, the left is much better at how they clothe their ideology with their language than we are.0.79
01:29:28.000They have done a decent job hiding that leftism is an inherently violent ideology, extremely violent ideology.
01:30:50.000And so we're going to run this play every single summer.
01:30:52.000I literally, we did this last year in Human Events, you remember?
01:30:54.000And I just said, hey, what kind of riot are we going to have this year?
01:30:58.000And then, like, a week later, a week later, it was like the anti ICE riots.
01:31:02.000And then we covered, I think, three weeks in a row, there was another violent attack from leftists that we had a piece in that we covered every single week because it's part of their playbook.
01:31:11.000Because virtue, the only virtue they have is power.
01:31:14.000And so if violence works, they will use violence to get power.
01:31:17.000But they know they will use your morals against them.
01:31:37.000And they are using the Islamists to take over the country, and the communists think that they'll win and we'll have to see what happens.0.94
01:31:50.000They're going to take all of us with them.
01:31:51.000But that's the thing that I find so concerning.
01:31:54.000And I feel like we are, we do not have, from my view right now, a strong conservative position or alternate position or, you know, just like the other side to take this mess on.
01:32:09.000And that's, I get really concerned about that.
01:32:22.000It's conspiratorial, but I would just put it like this.
01:32:24.000The way I often describe these scenarios is what would you do if you were the head of a multinational corporation 10, 15 years ago, when these companies developing rudimentary AI algorithms, machine learning were forecasting what was going to happen?
01:32:42.000You'd be like, okay, well, communism, you need some kind of new economy because how will you sustain an economy when Who's going to own the means of production?
01:32:55.000When it's an artificial intelligence robot producing the food, is there going to be three guys who own all the factories or one guy who owns all the factories?
01:33:02.000How do you stop people from burning those factories down?
01:33:04.000How do they get access to this economy?
01:33:05.000I think the social media expansion of allowing communism and banning individuality, merit, capitalism, et cetera, is connected to these technocrats.
01:33:18.000Silicon Valley technocrats are friends with the AI companies and they're all funding each other.
01:33:24.000So when they start censoring certain worldviews, it seems like it's connected.
01:33:29.000And I think it's related to them being like, we need a cultural revolution to eliminate individuality and meritocracy because we're about to destroy it with technology.
01:33:44.000So here's my counter proposition, which is that everything you're saying, I actually.
01:33:49.000Tend to agree with, but I don't know if it's so much a one world coordinated conspiracy theory because I think a lot of times those things are hard to hold together.
01:33:56.000I didn't say it was one world, I said the technocrats are friends with each other.
01:34:02.000What I actually think that it is, and I think that you're actually right in everything you're saying, so it's not really a counterproposal, but I view all of this through obviously a spiritual lens.
01:34:11.000And we were talking about this when we talked about demons a minute ago.
01:34:13.000If you ask yourself the question with a lot of these issues, what would a demon do if they were in charge of this situation?
01:34:19.000And it's the exact thing that's happening.
01:34:21.000It starts to really have the mask come off a lot of this.
01:34:23.000And I look at that and I go, okay, so that makes me have to wonder is there something to the fact that there's a world maybe that I can't see in the physical?
01:34:30.000You know, maybe is there something spiritual going on?
01:34:33.000And whatever term you want to use for it, but maybe there's a world that's just as real as the one that I live in, in which there's forces that are fighting over territorial control over the earth and over people and over humanity.
01:34:44.000And maybe all of that is happening right now.
01:34:47.000And if that were the case, what would it look like?
01:34:49.000And that's actually one of the things that led me to the most clarity as I was, you know, as I became a Christian.
01:34:55.000Led into my faith is I looked around at the world and I said, Yeah, there's some evil things that are going on here.
01:35:00.000Maybe there's exactly what the Bible describes, which is a kingdom of darkness, and that there's all these coordinated actors who are acting within it.
01:35:07.000And I started to view the world through that lens.
01:35:09.000And I will tell you, none of these stories started surprising me because I just looked at what the Bible said and said, Hey, you know, there's this passage in 2 Timothy that says, In the last days, meaning like towards the end, which is kind of the period of time that we're in, at least biblically speaking, I think we're in the last days.
01:35:22.000It says, People will be lovers of themselves, money, boastful, proud, abusive.
01:35:26.000Disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, all it goes all conceited, all of these things, basically everything that we deal with in our culture that we say, hey, this is the root problem in our culture.
01:35:36.000And I think, okay, well, then if that is true, then maybe the spiritual side of this is real.
01:36:40.000And that has me like, I was, I was, we were talking about this before the show.
01:36:44.000I have witnessed what I can only describe as demonic possession something that seemingly defies what humans or what we are taught about human psychology and behavior.
01:36:54.000Everything that I've experienced in hacker culture, social engineering, sales, all the fundraising stuff I've done has been rooted heavily in understanding the human mind and how to manipulate it.
01:37:34.000And our dumb 13 year old friends would put their passwords into AIM and give their friend the password to screw with them.0.93
01:37:41.000And that's my first introduction into what social engineering was.0.96
01:37:44.000Understanding the things that you could do that would make a person do something.
01:37:47.000So I started hanging out with a bunch of people, and I'm in LA hanging out with hackers.
01:37:50.000And I had done nonprofit fundraising, which is basically what do I have to say to a person to make them hand over their credit card and sign up for this form willfully.
01:37:58.000Everything that I had been doing was based on for human beings, if this, then that.
01:38:04.000And then in the past several years, I have seen things that seem to defy everything I had been successful at and learned as it pertains to the human mind in ways that I can only describe as demonic possession.
01:38:17.000A person's personality changed as if they had been taken over.
01:38:20.000And I'm not exaggerating when I say, I'll give you an example because I want to keep it private.
01:38:25.000I don't want to publicly name someone I think was taken over by a demon.
01:38:29.000But I've probably seen 15 to 20 instances.
01:38:32.000Let's just put it like this somebody who hates pineapple on pizza, likes watching cartoons and anime, one day can't stand pineapple on pizza and only watches action movies and is also doing something that I would describe as immoral and evil.
01:38:50.000Things and betraying people, hurting people, and seeing them and saying, like, literally last week, you were doing the complete opposite of what you're doing now.
01:39:03.000This week, you are committing crimes and being evil.
01:39:06.000People who live their lives never doing drugs, having a normal job, one day, all of a sudden, they're doing drugs, hard drugs, hurting people, gambling.
01:39:17.000I would describe it as things that were criminal.
01:39:59.000But when you talk about demons, These are things that I've experienced more recently in my life that defy what I thought I knew about how humans behave.
01:40:09.000And I can't explain the frequency by which I'm seeing this escalate, unless maybe we're in the end times and we're seeing an escalation of some kind of activity.
01:40:20.000So, first of all, demons are certainly real.
01:40:24.000And every faithful tradition of Christianity holds that.
01:40:27.000Jesus goes and he casts out demons, his disciples cast out demons.
01:40:30.000And as Christians today, we have the authority to cast out demons in the name of Christ.
01:40:35.000And that is a thing that I have literally seen, and a thing that I have literally witnessed is people who are living under demonic possession and oppression, who at the name of Jesus are rescued from it, the chains are broken.
01:40:51.000And so I will tell you yes, demons are real, but not only are they real, but it begs a question if demons are real, what are they?
01:40:59.000And is what the Bible says about them perhaps the case?
01:41:03.000And if it were the case, what would it look like?
01:41:06.000If it were the case that demons were real and this one religion, the Christian religion, seemed to have historically, not just me sitting here telling you, but countless cases of people who were able to go and use the name of Jesus in order to drive them out, would that give credence to the claim that perhaps there is another kingdom, not just a kingdom of darkness, but also a kingdom of light, of which there is a king who has authority?
01:41:29.000What does the Bible say that demons are?
01:41:32.000So the Bible doesn't, the Bible addresses demons, but addresses it.
01:41:37.000Probably a little bit less than you think about what they are.
01:41:39.000So, the traditional view of the church is largely that demons are fallen angels, meaning that it's the same time there's a rebellion in Genesis chapter 3.
01:41:47.000So, Adam and Eve are in the garden and they rebel by sinning against God because they're tempted by the devil and they choose to disobey.
01:41:52.000And so, they enter into a broken relationship with God.
01:41:55.000Well, there's also a divine rebellion that is in heaven.
01:41:58.000And Jesus describes this when he says, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven and a third of the angels fell with him.
01:42:05.000And so, the traditional view of the church is that what we encounter as demonic spirits.
01:42:10.000Really, are fallen angels from heaven.
01:42:12.000Now, there's some more complexity to it than that, meaning that in the same way that there are creatures in the world that you and I see that are human and then not human but alive, right?
01:42:23.000There's things in like that in the spiritual world too, because if God is a God who's a God of creation, then He's created two worlds in which they're made perfect.
01:42:31.000We're the only creature that's made in His image fully, meaning there's spirit creatures, there's also flesh creatures.
01:42:44.000In the uncensored portion of the show, I want to go in depth on the personal issue here and why I am considering going back to church because Libby and I have been talking about it before the show, less so the global implications.
01:42:59.000But I do want to rope in what has me worried.1.00
01:43:01.000And I'll just say this when we talk about demons and the things that I've experienced, to your average liberal secular person, they're going to be like, you guys believe in fairy tales, you're stupid.0.99
01:43:13.000I wouldn't communicate to them in this way.0.99
01:43:15.000I would actually say people have taken drugs and experienced entities.
01:43:20.000And what's compelling about it, and the reason why the subject of DMT was so popular, is that they have taken two people, put them in separate rooms, given them both DMT in these research trials, and these people have experienced the same space.
01:44:05.000But what that never explains is how there are More and more stories.
01:44:09.000And this is not random dudes being like, I did drugs and this is what happened.
01:44:13.000These are laboratory conditions where they're like, the individuals conveyed information neither of them had been able to share with each other.
01:44:50.000The simulation theorists say perhaps we live in a simulation that our universe was constructed for some purpose in which we experience the world and there's rules and, you know, who knows?
01:45:03.000And so it's like, so you think a creator made all of this?
01:45:08.000Like, well, yeah, but it's an advanced species.
01:45:10.000I'm like, Look, any way you want to describe the creator, you can describe the creator.
01:45:14.000That's literally just pushing the question further back.
01:45:17.000My response is simulation theorists are asking the first questions that theologians asked 3,000, 2,000 years ago or whatever.
01:45:26.000When, you know, even before Christ, there were questions being asked about the nature of reality and whether it was constructed.
01:45:32.000And simulation theorists are now thinking they've just discovered the first question to ask.
01:45:36.000When you look at it that way, my response to atheists and secular individuals is when you think of demons, There is an immediate internal bias that I think atheists have where they imagine fairy tales, vampires, and werewolves.
01:45:54.000The idea of demons can be simply constructed as entity, something beyond our comprehension and understanding that seeks to influence in some ways.
01:46:01.000There may be good ones, there may be bad ones.1.00
01:46:03.000It may be that Christianity is completely correct about it.0.96
01:46:06.000Maybe you believe that, maybe you don't.0.65
01:46:07.000My point is when I say demons are real, I believe that there are powers and entities that influence us because I have no way to explain the rapid increase in the frequency of people that I can only describe as being possessed.
01:46:20.000And to simplify it, we're going to go to the Rumble Rant and Sweet Jets right now.
01:46:23.000I'm just saying, easy way to describe it.
01:46:27.000A friend of yours who listens to rock music and wears, you know, rock clothes and flannels one day shows up with a different tone of their voice, a different degree of confidence.
01:46:39.000They hate certain kinds of food they loved yesterday.
01:46:41.000And you're like, this is not the same person.
01:49:50.000Josh Alger says, in keeping with Tim Cass' tradition, my wife and I welcomed our son Jackson into the world Sunday, April 12th at a quarter past midnight.
01:51:56.000I mean, like, that means I could literally go and I would never.
01:51:58.000Honey, I know you're listening to this, but I would never like to leave my wife and kids, and it's just like, ah, just because I didn't want to.
01:52:06.000That's why they kept trying to put into law in laws about, you know, deadbeat dads and you have to pay your child support and you're going to go to jail.1.00
01:52:13.000Yeah, all the women that are like, hey, if you're going to take away abortion care, you should have to stay to help raise that child that you created.0.86
01:52:20.000And I'm like, yeah, your terms are acceptable.1.00
01:54:52.000But if I took, let's use this example.
01:54:56.000Let's say I took one of Phil's songs, stripped the guitar out, slowed it down 100, you know, 100, let's just say, let's say I slowed it down five times, snipped a piece out of the middle and reversed it.
01:55:13.000Phil, could you sue me for using that sound?
01:56:03.000We went over this last year when we pulled up the data, but I think it's something like.
01:56:09.000I can't remember if it's gigawatts or whatever the power consumption in Northern Virginia is, but there's something like a 250% discrepancy in power consumption, meaning we know how much the human beings who live there are using.
01:56:21.000Why is there an extra 250% going somewhere?
01:56:24.000And everyone's like, it's because they're sending it to data centers.
01:56:27.000This is causing power costs to spike because of consumption being so massive.
01:56:32.000One thing that they're doing, and this is what I think Elon's doing with XAI, is the data centers are creating their own power plants.
01:56:40.000They have methane power generators in the buildings.
01:56:44.000Not only that, but there's an idea that I hear a lot of people talking about that once a data center is put up, you're talking about like an enormous amount of power, right?
01:56:55.0001,500 megawatts or something like that.
01:56:57.000Your average town uses like 80 megawatts.
01:57:00.000So it's like 5% of what the data center uses.
01:57:02.000The data center should just pay for everyone's electricity.
01:57:07.000That would ingratiate them with the population.
01:57:09.000Your average person, what, $3,000, $4,000 a year for power?
01:57:14.000But if they're like, if you tell people, everybody in town, you're going to get free electricity because we're putting a data center down the street and they're going to pay for all your electricity.
01:57:37.000Here's the big thing that no one seems to be talking about.
01:57:39.000None of these companies are actually profitable.
01:57:41.000Where is this money coming from to mass rapidly expand all of this?
01:57:45.000I think there's an economic misalignment that we aren't discussing.
01:57:50.000It is something I think I heard somebody talk about this at the very beginning of the AI boom.
01:57:56.000I heard a couple people talking about this, and just the idea that they're going to continue to take out debt until someday, one day, they'll be profitable.
01:58:02.000I mean, the longest one that we've seen has been OpenAI.
01:58:05.000They've been the longest standing major company, and they're in debt billions and billions of dollars.
01:58:10.000Microsoft owns most of OpenAI, I think.
01:58:12.000And they just keep dumping more and more.
01:58:13.000And they just keep dumping more because it's too big to.
01:58:15.000And now RAM is like a billion dollars a stick.
01:58:17.000Anthropic's currently looking at being profitable in 2027.
01:58:25.000And that's three years earlier than OpenAI.
01:58:34.000As they have them right now, justify the amount of expense and expense that they're making?
01:58:39.000I think the only one that has a chance to be profitable is X because Elon actually knows how to financially maneuver and he's integrated all of his companies vertically so that they can all work together.
01:58:50.000And he actually, I mean, this is what he did with SpaceX, right?
01:58:53.000He said, everybody else has tried to launch space internet, which Bill Gates had tried to do it, a bunch of people tried to do it.
01:59:00.000And he said, but it wasn't profitable.
01:59:01.000So I'm going to find a way to make it profitable.
01:59:21.000And it's an incredibly complex process.
01:59:26.000Elon is building a tariffab, which he intends to use to make like a million chips a year because he's looking at putting a million.
01:59:35.000You know, he says he's putting like a million satellites in space a year or something.
01:59:39.000Well, he wants to put a million in at least a million, but yeah, they're not going to be profitable in the next couple years.
01:59:47.000Yeah, out of all the people that are trying this kind of stuff, I think Musk is the most likely eventually because of the same reasons that you're saying.
01:59:54.000Um, I do think that he's going to be able to solve the problem of putting stuff in space because he's when he builds TerraFab, I think like 80% of the chips that they actually make, they're making with.
02:00:15.000But it'll take a while because the TeraFab is a massive, massive undertaking.
02:00:19.000I'm just saying, like, if I was going to make an investment right now, I'm going to be looking at community based things, things that bring people together.
02:00:30.000I'm going to be looking at companies that do manual labor and trade work.
02:00:37.000Because the worst possible thing to invest in right now is probably media.
02:00:45.000I will just say, as a pastor, a lot of people that come in, a lot of these young people that come in, they're terminally online and they come in and they're like, I need to connect with something real, something that's true.
02:02:05.000So this is when, so Tommy Robbins, I wrote a 10-part series on Islam for our church.
02:02:09.000That's actually how I ended up 30 years after he wrote it.
02:02:13.000And Tommy Robinson came down to our church, and one of the questions he asked me when he interviewed me is, he asked, Are you afraid of this?
02:02:19.000And he's been thrown in jail because of speaking out against Islam and stuff.
02:02:21.000And I'm just like, I mean, you know, before we started this, I had never thought about it.
02:02:25.000But the reality is, we've had to beef up security at our church because, I mean, for the past eight weeks, we've been preaching on the threat of Islam in the United States, the Red Green Alliance, all this other stuff.0.98
02:02:36.000And we have to think about that as a real consideration because these are people that are extremely violent.0.56
02:02:42.000It's their theology, it's exactly who they are, it's a reality.
02:02:47.000So, my friends, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show and we're going to have a conversation about church, the community values, and things in the world that I think are going on that I find particularly interesting related to this and predictions as well as knowledge and forbidden knowledge.
02:05:49.000So all this talk about Trump being the Antichrist and all that stuff, it's interesting.
02:05:57.000I don't know if I would agree that Trump is the Antichrist or anything like that, but I feel like recent events, as well as my experience, I talked about to a great deal with demons and stuff like this, people's behaviors, like they became different people overnight.
02:06:26.000Then, with all of the talk about prophecy, the Messianic era, all of things have started to freak me out a little bit where it just seems like, I'll keep it relatively vague, there are a lot of predictions that are being made or have been made a long time that seem to be coming true, as it were.
02:06:46.000But more so, I think the demonic stuff just has me concerned, I suppose.
02:06:54.000And I guess the way I look at this with church, outside of all of that stuff I already described, the value of having your family in church.
02:07:03.000I remember the value that my family had having my daughter grow up around well mannered, well behaved, honorable, loyal people, I think is incredibly important.
02:07:12.000So that's, I guess, kind of how I'm looking at it.
02:07:16.000The cultural, communal value is massive.
02:07:19.000My wife and I are both lapsed Catholics.
02:07:21.000I don't consider myself a Christian, I do believe in God.
02:07:25.000I think demons are real, and I think it's worth going back and learning more about the stuff.
02:07:29.000And we've talked about it whether or not we should start going back just for our daughter's sake.
02:07:39.000Like I grew up in Boston with my dad, who was religious, and his second wife, who raised me Catholic because she was horrified when it turned out I was seven and I hadn't been baptized.
02:07:50.000And she was like, okay, we're fixing all of this.
02:10:40.000And so I was wrestling through this question of faith, and it led me to, I think you, one of y'all mentioned Lee Strobel's book, The Case for Faith.
02:10:47.000Yeah, and now my brother asked me to read that.
02:10:48.000Yeah, so I was 14 years old, and I started thinking, okay, I want to know what is true.
02:10:54.000And I want to know what is true because I want to live my life under the implications of the truth.
02:10:59.000I do not want to live my life living in a world where I'm just looking at what's best for me because I don't think that I can even get there without knowing what's true.
02:11:08.000I want to know what's true, you know, and now I have these really conflicting.
02:11:12.000Sides of my life that are tearing me into two different worlds.
02:11:15.000And the question is, okay, so what's true?0.56
02:11:18.000So I literally set out to basically do what Lee does in that book and say, okay, what's the answer to this Christianity thing?
02:11:24.000And so I really started working on that question in my life.
02:11:27.000And I came back to, no, Christianity is explicitly true for many reasons.
02:11:32.000Now I read a bunch of stuff that I read The God Delusion, which is a book by Dawkins, right?
02:12:17.000Um, I just don't know that I believe in the resurrection and the stories of Christians.
02:12:22.000Okay, then go read Case for Faith because Lee deals with the book, it's basically about the historical evidence for the resurrection.
02:12:28.000Many people who are not Christians, once you look at the historical evidence of the resurrection, it's extremely convincing.
02:12:33.000So I would recommend that to anyone who's interested.
02:12:35.000I suppose, without having read it, I don't have much to comment on that other than from what I learned in Catholic school and what I've known through my life.
02:12:43.000I would just conclude the difficulty is a historical event that claims to be miraculous is still as any other historical event to me.
02:12:52.000So, you can tell me about Genghis Khan and riding on horseback with arrows.
02:12:55.000And I say, okay, you know, but like, so history always deviates to a certain degree.
02:13:10.000And, and, uh, I'll just give it to you as a, as a sort of a, one of the things that was most convincing to me when I was wrestling with this question.
02:14:32.000Which would be shocking if Jesus were just some random Jew who led a revolt, as the secular historians would portray him.
02:14:41.000But is not shocking if you look at history, like I said, through a spiritual lens and you say, is God working out his truth through all of humanity and trying to reveal it to all mankind so they can be saved by knowledge of the truth?
02:14:51.000If that's what's happening, then it makes a lot of sense.
02:14:55.000And so there are a lot of questions that go into the historical evidence of it, but the practical evidence of it is, I guess.
02:15:00.000I looked at all this historical evidence and I said, Yes, I believe that this is true.
02:15:03.000But the more convincing thing to me was one of the things I decided I was going to do throughout this process in my life I was going to open up the Bible and I was going to read a chapter every day.
02:15:11.000And I just said, You know, God, I've believed that you're real.
02:15:14.000I don't really know what I believe now.
02:15:21.000And I mean, this was a terrible time in my life, you know, and not to dunk on him publicly because I don't want to do that.
02:15:27.000I love my dad and I wish him the very best.
02:15:30.000But he started doing things that were very foreign and not good for a child, you know, in my life.
02:15:35.000And I was watching all this and I was going through this period of my life where I'm really wrestling and I'm thinking, what, God, what is, if you're here, just show me, like show up for me.
02:15:43.000You know, a lot of people have said this.
02:15:44.000And so I just read the Bible, I opened it up and I read a chapter a day for about a year of my life.
02:15:51.000One, I read the evidence and I said, this is insurmountable.
02:15:55.000The evidence that is for Christianity is so much greater than the evidence against it.
02:15:58.000And two, I personally experienced when I was reading God's word that there is a deeper truth there than anything I could find anywhere else in the world.
02:16:08.000And I have continued to experience that as true still today.
02:16:12.000And the benefits to my life, because I've lived my life, even if I didn't believe it, I've lived my life as if that it's true.
02:16:18.000And I've just seen immense benefit because.
02:16:22.000I believe that it's the truth that keeps you in line.
02:16:37.000So, like, one of the twins is going to be a Gnostic.0.51
02:16:41.000And I've seen the benefit in my kids because it gives them a worldview by which they can understand all of the complex things that are going on in the world good and evil and why do these different things happen.0.96
02:16:52.000And so, there are a lot of benefits to your family.
02:16:54.000The community benefit of being in the church, the church is powerful.
02:16:57.000Having people that you can turn to that don't want anything from you, they want more for you than from you.
02:17:01.000I mean, I tell people that all the time.
02:17:03.000You should have people like that in your life.
02:17:42.000But one thing I discovered eventually about the existentialists is that there is no existentialism without Christianity because the basis for existentialism is not an amorality, it's existing within a Christian framework and believing that.
02:17:58.000Mankind is responsible for his own actions.
02:18:02.000And that doesn't exist if it's just there's nothing.
02:18:07.000You know, like now what we see, now we see what happens when there's nothing.
02:18:42.000By the way, there are three spirits that are seen throughout the Bible Baal, Ashtaroth, and Moloch, and they come up over and over and over again.0.92
02:18:49.000Baal is the worship of money and possessions and the self.0.85
02:18:53.000That's the one that's spelled B A A L. B A A Baal.0.85
02:18:56.000Ashtaroth, which is, you know, and these different gods, deities pop up in different names throughout scripture and throughout history.
02:19:03.000Ashtaroth, which is in Greek, Aphrodite, goddess of sexual perversion, and Moloch, which is child sacrifice.
02:19:38.000It's so crazy that there could be unwanted children.0.82
02:19:42.000You take the unwanted child and you pass it through Baal or Moloch.0.50
02:19:45.000Moloch is this demon god that God literally, by the way, when you look at the Old Testament, you're like, man, God is violent.
02:19:50.000It's because he's wiping out civilizations that did stuff like this, where they would take their children that were unwanted from their sexual perversion because they worshiped Asterith and they would take them to Moloch and they would light a fire.
02:20:01.000They would put this bronze statue in the middle of the fire and the statue had arms and they would put the baby in the searing hot arms of the fire and sacrifice the children to Moloch.
02:20:13.000Seth Gruber is a good friend of mine, and he repeatedly points out that the most common method of abortion is the chemical abortion pill, which literally burns children alive in utero.
02:20:23.000And so not only has the act not changed, but the methodology has not even changed.
02:20:50.000My question is for Mr. Daniel Hayworth.
02:20:53.000What is your view on progressive politics and its relationship to female leadership in the church?
02:20:59.000Like, you know, around here, we see there's a lot of like Episcopalian female leadership, lesbian pastors spreading pro abortion, pro Moloch worship, things like that.
02:21:10.000So, how do you think the female leadership has affected the church?1.00
02:21:14.000The church is not meant to be led by females, and there's a reason for that.0.92
02:21:17.000God creates a headship that the church is supposed to mirror that's given specifically to men.
02:21:23.000And the reason that I say that is that when God creates, he gives roles.
02:21:28.000Now, he gives you're equal in value and worth as a man or a woman in the eyes of God.
02:21:32.000And so you're not different because you're a man or a woman.
02:21:35.000You're not more valuable than your wife, for instance.
02:21:37.000But one of the things that God does is he assigns to people different roles.
02:21:41.000And so you see this played out in marriage, and you see it played out in the church.
02:21:43.000The church and marriage are parallel relationships.
02:21:48.000You find that in Ephesians 5, which you can read.0.63
02:21:52.000And when you see churches that are elevating women to roles which God did not intend for them, you see the destruction of the church which God has created because it's out of order.0.61
02:22:00.000And so the church is meant to be orderly, ultimately underneath the leadership of Christ.
02:22:06.000And so when you see that all of these people are getting promoted and they're promoting views that are anti biblical and out of order with God's word, then you would say, well, that ceases actually at that.
02:22:15.000Point to be a church and it becomes something else.
02:22:16.000Or maybe it's a church of some other deity, but it's not Christianity.
02:22:19.000And that's why a lot of these denominations that have gone woke, these Episcopalians, the first thing you see is.
02:22:23.000What do you mean it's some other deity?
02:22:26.000Oh, so, like if you're a church with a pride flag on your steeple and you're welcoming people in, you are not a church of Christ.
02:22:34.000You are a church that worships something else.
02:22:48.000Forces that are really alive today that want you to worship them as if they were God, but they are not God, but they've usurped the name of God in order to take upon themselves worshipers.
02:22:57.000But that's not what Christianity is about.
02:22:59.000Christianity is about worshiping the one who came, who was a perfect sacrifice for our sin, died on the cross, was rose from the grave, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father.
02:23:07.000That's what Christianity is about.0.96
02:23:09.000If your services are about chopping off kids' genitals and affirming transgenderism and worshiping pagan sex religions, sex cults, which is what the LGBT sex cult is, then you're not a church of Jesus Christ.0.99
02:23:33.000My follow up would be since I looked at your website really quick and your first staff member listed is Pastor Lindsay Oswald.
02:23:41.000So I was just going to wonder how do you square having a female pastor in leadership with that view that you just presented?
02:23:47.000Yeah, none of the elders that lead our church are, and she's not over the Like she's underneath me, and I'm underneath a senior pastor, and our senior pastor's underneath a board of directors that are other pastors.
02:24:01.000And all of that makes up the headship principle that I'm describing.0.66
02:24:04.000So she's equipped and empowered to do ministry because obviously there's roles in churches for ministry for women.
02:24:09.000That's seen all throughout the New Testament church.
02:24:12.000But she doesn't hold the headship of the church, she doesn't hold the ultimate responsibility of leading the church in the direction that it's supposed to go.
02:24:59.000But yeah, no, I was talking about AI and everything last Friday, Tim, and I had a little bit of a question from this guy, seeing as how he was born in the same hospital as I was, most likely.
02:25:10.000What's your feeling on the encroachment and takeover of Northeast DFW?
02:25:31.000Our series, The Cross and the Crescent, which I wrote and my pastor, Pastor Stephen Martin, and our church as a whole have been giving away.
02:25:38.000We've given it away to over 200 churches already, specifically addresses this issue.
02:25:43.000And without enough time to go into detail, you can watch that.
02:25:46.000It's at vintage.church forward slash infidel.
02:25:49.000You can watch the whole 10 week series and get a much longer take on what I think on the issue.
02:26:54.000Your church specifically calls, and this is not a Ziju's question, Dan Chill.
02:27:01.000Your church calls for the Zionist belief in supporting the Jewish right to live in Israel and speaks on dispensationalism.
02:27:07.000I'm wondering what your personal view on that is and just kind of how you feel about it.
02:27:14.000So, if I understand your question right, my answer is my view on the Jewish people are that Zionism is really just that the people have a right to the homeland, the place of Israel.
02:28:29.000That means I can destroy the ideologies that they hold to, which hold them in the kingdom of darkness.
02:28:33.000But I pray that every single person who doesn't know Christ turns to Him because why would I not want them to have eternal life?
02:28:40.000But I think that the Bible is pretty clear that at a certain point, the nation that we now once again call Israel, which is the historical homeland of the Jews, is going to once again be.
02:28:53.000Occupied not only by Jews, but by the by blood Jewish Messiah, who is Jesus Christ, who's going to come again.0.78
02:29:00.000I was wondering how you square that crusader cross you're wearing on your shirt with that idea, though.0.98
02:29:05.000Well, the first crusade was launched by Pope Urban II to fight the Muslims who went and took over the holy land of Jerusalem.0.68
02:29:11.000Islam actually rapidly expanded, it took over over 50% of the known Christian world in the first hundred years of Islam.0.66
02:29:18.000And so, in those first hundred years, Jerusalem was one of the first things it fell about 70 years after Muhammad's death.0.90
02:29:25.000And the Christian crusades were launched as a response to all of the violence and persecution by the Muslim hordes that were united under the caliphs in order to destroy the Christian world, which is part of their worldview, which is that one day the world will be covered by the global caliphate or the Ummah, as they call it.0.83
02:29:41.000And so the Crusader Cross is a representation that Christianity is not this neutered religion that you hear about by weak, skinny gened people that just sip lattes.0.92
02:29:52.000It's actually this deeply masculine religion about sacrifice and laying down your own life.0.60
02:29:57.000In order to protect what God has called good and his word and the people that hold to it, which is the story of the First Crusade, you can go look.
02:30:15.000You should go read the accounts of men like Duke Godfrey of Bouillon, who literally was the one who led the First Crusade, was the first king of Jerusalem, but he wouldn't take that title.
02:30:53.000I was trying to be more clarifying, essentially, in the terminology that was being used and give you a chance to steel man your position on it.
02:30:59.000But I've taken up too much of your time.
02:31:05.000Well, you know, but Libby and Tim, especially since you have foundation in the church as well as scripture and some other things, you might want to actually look into Soren Kierkegaard, Works of Love.
02:31:15.000It's a much better book, I think, for people who have foundation in Christianity and want to contend with some post liberal thought because the truth is that guy.
02:31:25.000Worked out where all of this was going and how to answer a lot of those questions a long time ago.
02:31:29.000But for some reason, outside of seminary and Bible churches, he doesn't really get a lot of that.
02:32:08.000I appreciate the opportunity to call in.
02:32:10.000Got a question I think that maybe you guys have more insight into than I do.
02:32:17.000Our founding fathers were a collection of Christians and deists who set up a system that would only function for moral and religious people.
02:32:24.000How do we bring society to accept this again?0.98
02:32:27.000It's like the third generation person in a business who just, it's just all there for them.
02:32:34.000They think their morals are default and not downstream of Christian morality.0.62
02:32:58.000So, one, our country is in the third phase of what happens all throughout the Bible, which is there's a generation that knows God, they walk with him closely.
02:33:06.000Then there's a generation that knows of God, meaning you know who he was.
02:33:09.000And then there's a generation that doesn't know God.
02:33:36.000All sorts of persecution has become the church.0.97
02:33:38.000Nero used to take Christians, dip them in oil, hang them upside down by their ankles in his garden, and then light them on fire for Christ.
02:34:22.000And it's like Tim was saying a second ago one of the biggest arguments for Christianity in itself is that we've lost it and in it we've gotten some pretty demonic stuff in its place.
02:34:32.000And so, would we rather return to the place where the founders had us, where we're built upon the truth of God's word and we're appealing to heaven and to divinity and the people, moral and religious people, which is a quote from John Adams?
02:35:20.000Well, that's why we've By the way, so here's a cool thing.
02:35:23.000I'm going to D.C. tomorrow with a group of pastors throughout the country who are the bold pastors who are saying the kinds of things that I'm here on the show saying that are going to pray over people who are in the administration and different and try and be that light.
02:35:36.000But you're right, there's been a sifting in the church.
02:35:38.000A lot of people have gone woke and soft.
02:35:41.000And to those people, I would say return to the truth of God's word and stand boldly upon it.
02:35:46.000Ephesians 6 is this really awesome chapter in scripture that's the full armor of God.
02:35:50.000And it tells you all of the things that you have to do.0.97
02:35:52.000In order to walk out the Christian life, do those things and do them not afraid.0.94
02:35:55.000I'm not ashamed of the gospel because it's the power of God for salvation to anyone who believes.0.99
02:36:00.000If you really believe that, then proclaim that to the people that you know and find a church that boldly proclaims it to you and isn't afraid of being called racist or sexist or xenophobic or whatever hateful slur they want to throw at you that day.
02:36:13.000Just preach God's word and don't be afraid.
02:36:15.000That's how you get the country to return.
02:36:17.000I think a spiritual revival is the only thing that can restore America now, and I pray for it every single day.
02:36:25.000You guys would be shocked at the number of people I've seen come to Christ this year.
02:36:29.000I mean, the month after Charlie died, our church across three locations runs about 2,500 or 3,000 people a week.
02:36:40.000The month after Charlie died, we baptized, not just people who said, Hey, I want to fall after Christ, like literally dunked him in the water, got him up.
02:37:02.000You get baptized, you do the whole thing.
02:37:04.000It's like soup to nuts, you know, it's like a whole program.
02:37:07.000But we've seen a lot of people coming in to do the whole thing, you know, straight through baptism to confirmation to be part of the.
02:37:14.000Church and like every Sunday, it's been the father standing up there and being like, you know, and we'd like to welcome all of these people.
02:37:23.000The church was already packed, and lately I go and I have to like park on the grass somewhere, you know, there's like because I'm always right on time, I'm never early.
02:37:32.000But like, well, hey, listen, I'm not late, which is actually a huge deal because I'm usually late to everything.
02:37:38.000Being late is disrespectful, I have to park on the grass.
02:37:40.000Good, I hope more churches are like that.
02:37:43.000Every single one of our locations is going through a building project right now because we need more room.
02:38:09.000And it was like, seriously, it is like, and we've gone to the same church that you go to, like, we've gone a couple times, but the Latin Masses, like, I mean, Do you ever do the Sunday at 11?