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00:02:52.000 Democrats in Minnesota have criminally charged an ICE agent over an incident that occurred in February where two individuals blocked his vehicle and then he pulled up beside him, told them he was police and to freeze.

00:03:05.000 These individuals said it was a crazy guy in SUV, called the police.

00:03:08.000 The police are now charging the ICE agent who was on his way to ICE HQ.

00:03:14.000 The story is actually a bit complicated.

00:03:16.000 These individuals who say they called the police are claiming they did not know that he was an ICE agent, but did try to obstruct his vehicle as it was on the shoulder of a highway and they were trying to, quote, cut him off a little bit.

00:03:27.000 I think this is the Democrats taking their opportunity to justify the arrest of ICE agents.

00:03:32.000 As Tom Steyer, who's the top Democrat to win in California, although he's still behind the Republicans, has threatened to arrest ICE agents.

00:03:41.000 So, oh boy, it's getting real weird out there.

00:03:45.000 And with the attack on Savannah Hernandez, it certainly seems like we're going to be in for a wild summer as we're seeing tons of leftists go out and riot.

00:03:54.000 Democrats are vowing to arrest and now are actually criminally charging people.

00:03:58.000 So, it's going to get interesting.

00:04:00.000 Now, Donald Trump's come out.

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00:04:10.000 And I think, of course, it's another great opportunity for us to talk about not what Trump says or Hegseth says, but what is actually happening so we can answer that question just for you, Joe.

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00:06:11.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Kevin Dahlgren.

00:06:16.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:06:16.000 Good to see you, brother.

00:06:17.000 Absolutely.

00:06:18.000 Who are you?

00:06:18.000 Hey, man, I'm an independent journalist in Portland, Oregon.

00:06:18.000 What do you do?

00:06:21.000 Been reporting on the homeless industrial complex the last several years.

00:06:25.000 My work just kind of really exploded as the rise and the importance of independent journalism and the mistrust in mainstream media.

00:06:32.000 You know, I'm very proud to be a part of this, I would say, movement and to really just kind of disrupt this billion dollar industry.

00:06:39.000 And it is an industry, it's all fake, in my opinion.

00:06:42.000 I've worked in this industry as well, and I have experienced, man, so much fraud.

00:06:48.000 You know, so this is interesting because we're talking a lot about the Medicare, Medicaid fraud.

00:06:51.000 We're talking about, you know, in California, Ohio, Seattle.

00:06:55.000 I think next stop, we should go after the homeless fraud.

00:06:57.000 There are companies that are billing the government for tons of money and they're not actually trying to solve anything or they're lying about it.

00:07:04.000 So it'll be interesting to have you here.

00:07:05.000 A lot to talk about.

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00:07:19.000 I also want to introduce Tate Brown, who I love.

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00:07:27.000 You got to bring that microphone closer, brother.

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00:07:33.000 Let's get into it.

00:07:34.000 Here's a story from NPR Minnesota has charged an ICE officer with assault for alleged actions during immigration surge.

00:07:42.000 I love this story because.

00:07:44.000 You got to read between the lines.

00:07:46.000 The first thing to understand is this incident they're reporting on took place February 5th.

00:07:51.000 That's about one week after Alex Pretty was shot and killed.

00:07:54.000 So, heightened tensions, to say the least.

00:07:56.000 They say state and local prosecutors in Minnesota charged an ICE officer Thursday with two counts of second degree assault with a dangerous weapon.

00:08:02.000 The criminal charges appear to be the first against a federal immigration officer for actions allegedly taken while on duty during the immigration enforcement crackdown in Minnesota.

00:08:11.000 Quote Today's charges reflect an important milestone in our efforts to seek accountability.

00:08:16.000 For the harms inflicted on our community during Operation Metro Surge.

00:08:20.000 The officers identified in the complaint is 35 year old Gregory Donnell Morgan Jr., a Maryland resident who was part of ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations Division at the time of the incident and had been detailed to the Minneapolis area.

00:08:35.000 They say on the afternoon of February 5th, Minnesota State Patrol received a 911 report that a driver in a Ford expedition had pointed a gun at two people in another vehicle along the highway in the Twin Cities area.

00:08:46.000 According to the complaint, The two alleged victims told authorities that they had been stuck in traffic when they saw an unmarked black SUV coming up from behind, driving on the shoulder of a highway in Hennepin County, where Minneapolis is located.

00:08:57.000 Thanks, NPR, for that addition.

00:09:00.000 The person driving says they briefly moved their car onto the road's shoulder in an effort to block the SUV's driver from bypassing traffic illegally and to quote, cut him off a little bit.

00:09:10.000 Both alleged victims say they did not know the other driver was a federal officer.

00:09:15.000 The complaint states that Morgan then pulled up beside them, rolled down his window, and pointed a black handgun directly at both the driver and the passenger and yelled something they couldn't discern.

00:09:25.000 One victim told state law enforcement the encounter led them to believe there was a crazy person driving down the road aiming guns at people.

00:09:31.000 The victims called 911 and took a video showing the SUV's Utah license plate.

00:09:36.000 State investigators used that data to identify the vehicle had been rented by another ICE officer, Morgan's partner.

00:09:43.000 During a voluntary interview, Morgan told state authorities he was driving to the federal Whipple building.

00:09:48.000 ISA HQ, at the end of his shift when the incident occurred.

00:09:52.000 According to the complaint, he told state law enforcement he feared for his safety when the victim's car pulled in front of him, so he drew his gun and yelled, Police, stop.

00:09:59.000 Morgan said he was trying to get the victims to back up.

00:10:03.000 There is a nationwide warrant for Morgan's arrest.

00:10:06.000 ICE and the Department of Homeland Security did not respond to comment.

00:10:09.000 At Thursday's press conference, Moriarty acknowledged that Charles' charges filed against Morgan were coming ahead of any possible charges in the Alex Pretty and Renee Good, in the cases of Pretty and Good, the two U.S. citizens shot and killed.

00:10:22.000 I want to be transparent on why these situations are developing at different speeds.

00:10:26.000 The State Patrol was able to investigate thoroughly, identify Mr. Morgan, and conduct an interview with him.

00:10:31.000 Virtually none of the obstacles around evidence collection that exist for the January shootings in this case.

00:10:35.000 I'm going to tell you my opinions right away because I'm biased.

00:10:38.000 I don't think for a second these people thought it was a random SUV driving down the shoulder.

00:10:43.000 People don't typically just pull onto the shoulder to block a black unmarked SUV driving down the road.

00:10:48.000 You typically assume those are law enforcement vehicles.

00:10:51.000 At the same time, this guy who's on duty and going to end his shift sees a vehicle pull in front of him.

00:10:57.000 We've already seen ICE agents boxed in and shot at. 0.98

00:11:01.000 He's probably thinking, holy crap. 0.93

00:11:04.000 So he draws his weapon and says, police, stop, which is not illegal. 0.86

00:11:08.000 A police officer with reasonable fear, ordering someone to stop and drawing their weapon, they can do that.

00:11:15.000 Now, you might argue there was no probable cause to do this.

00:11:19.000 I would argue that's insane.

00:11:22.000 If you want to make the case that these two people genuinely did not know this was an ICE agent and they were just trying to get in the way of some guy driving illegally, which Honestly, it seems kind of weird.

00:11:31.000 I mean, maybe it happens sometimes.

00:11:33.000 The ICE agent doesn't have to know any of that.

00:11:37.000 Legally, all the agent needs to perceive is a reasonable threat or a crime being committed.

00:11:43.000 And if he was driving on the shoulder and he's a law enforcement with a legitimate reason for doing that, maybe he didn't, maybe he was, and then you pull in front of him, he suspects something may be going on, he's going to tell you to freeze and they can draw their weapon if they suspect there is a threat to them right here.

00:12:00.000 Considering what just happened with Renee Goodenpretty, Considering that we had seen ICE agents boxed in, dragged.

00:12:07.000 The agent that shot, I believe it was shot, Renee Good, had been dragged by a vehicle.

00:12:12.000 What was it, like three weeks before that incident happened?

00:12:14.000 These guys are on edge.

00:12:16.000 That doesn't justify drawing a weapon on random people, but this is not a random circumstance.

00:12:20.000 In my opinion, I think these people knew exactly who he was.

00:12:24.000 I think they recognized and they knew.

00:12:26.000 I think the people in Minnesota widely knew that there were black, unmarked, rented SUVs carrying ICE agents, and I doubt an on duty ICE agent was plain clothes.

00:12:36.000 So they likely saw a guy with police gear on or something, and then said, We're going to get in his way because that's what these activists have been doing.

00:12:46.000 I do not believe, well, he's a Maryland resident, so y'all in trouble, brother.

00:12:50.000 I'm not going to advise anything, but I will just say if he was in West Virginia, he might be safe.

00:12:55.000 But in Maryland, they are going to arrest him and ship him off, and he is going to be paraded.

00:12:59.000 They are going to use him to make an example.

00:13:03.000 Is there dash cam footage of this?

00:13:04.000 Apparently, there's just cell phone footage.

00:13:06.000 I believe they said after the fact they filmed the vehicle and the license plate.

00:13:10.000 So if someone's violating the law by driving on the shoulder, and then you also choose to go vigilante justice and break the law to hinder them, you're still breaking, these people were still breaking the law.

00:13:20.000 In which case, a law enforcement officer sees a vehicle breaking the law and he's, draws up and says, police, stop.

00:13:29.000 I, I, I, I think these people, I don't trust these people.

00:13:31.000 Well, regardless.

00:13:32.000 We didn't know what he was yelling.

00:13:33.000 I don't believe that for a second.

00:13:34.000 Regardless where your belief system is, too, it's interfering in an investigation.

00:13:38.000 Any way you look at it, doesn't matter what you think about the situation, they were interfering.

00:13:43.000 And that's the problem.

00:13:45.000 What I wonder is if they're in an unmarked vehicle without badges and they, then the guy just pulls a gun on someone, he's like, I'm a cop, get out of my way.

00:13:52.000 You're like, How am I supposed to believe you?

00:13:54.000 You're a random guy pointing a gun at me.

00:13:56.000 Who cares if you're screaming, I'm a cop?

00:13:56.000 What am I?

00:13:58.000 And so I can see if he just pulled his gun in a completely unmarked status, that probably should be illegal or should have some.

00:14:06.000 The citizen should have some recourse of protection against unmarked cops pulling guns on people because they feel threatened.

00:14:13.000 Like if you're not marked, what authority do I have?

00:14:16.000 Yelled, police stop.

00:14:17.000 But like if a random dude yelled, police stop and pointed a gun at me, how am I supposed to know if he's a cop?

00:14:22.000 So here's a lot we don't know.

00:14:24.000 I would say.

00:14:26.000 My complaint about ICE is that they're decked out in armor and they are wearing very obvious militarized or law enforcement get ups.

00:14:37.000 And I have said since before Trump got elected, the ICE operations need to be done by dudes in polo shirts and khakis.

00:14:44.000 I do not believe for a second that this guy driving a vehicle on his way to the ICE headquarters was plainclothes.

00:14:52.000 Maybe, maybe, maybe.

00:14:54.000 But in this instance, the presumption.

00:14:57.000 I'm going to make based on all of the news I've tracked it's a black SUV.

00:15:02.000 Remember the video of Freddie kicking the taillight out?

00:15:04.000 It was a black SUV, and what were the guys dressed like inside?

00:15:08.000 They were decked out in police gear.

00:15:10.000 So when a guy in decked out police gear yells, police stop.

00:15:15.000 Yeah.

00:15:16.000 Also, like Minneapolis, Minnesota, kind of infamous for not making examples out of people in politically charged moments.

00:15:23.000 I mean, nothing really comes to mind of any sort of law enforcement operation in Minnesota that probably a guy got an example made out of him.

00:15:31.000 I just can't think of anything in the last five years.

00:15:33.000 Because it's never happened one time ever.

00:15:35.000 It's certainly not Minnesota.

00:15:37.000 Certainly not.

00:15:38.000 And then also, what never happened was that a mural to the drug addled criminal exploded when it was struck by lightning on a rather sunny day.

00:15:47.000 I mean, I got to stop.

00:15:48.000 That literally happened.

00:15:50.000 I'm going to say this.

00:15:51.000 I made a tweet about how, like, recent events had maybe considered going back to church.

00:15:54.000 Let me tell you one of them.

00:15:56.000 A painting, a mural of George Floyd was made.

00:15:59.000 And then on a day that was partly cloudy with scattered rain, lightning struck only the side of the building and blew up the mural of George Floyd and left everything else intact.

00:16:10.000 It had to be metal paint.

00:16:11.000 I can't get my head around it.

00:16:12.000 I got to pull that one up.

00:16:13.000 It's crazy that it just blew his face off the side of the wall.

00:16:16.000 Yeah.

00:16:16.000 Like, they must have had, like, metal paint.

00:16:18.000 Or lead or some sort of.

00:16:18.000 I don't know.

00:16:20.000 Conductive paint.

00:16:21.000 That is freakish.

00:16:22.000 I don't know, man.

00:16:23.000 This is not a joke.

00:16:23.000 I'm into the whole thing.

00:16:24.000 This is not a joke.

00:16:25.000 I, you know, again, I told this story.

00:16:27.000 I was like talking to Basobic, Jack Basobic, and I was like, the resurrection really doesn't do much for me.

00:16:32.000 Like, a lot of people say, like, this is the proof and all that.

00:16:34.000 And I said, but you tell me there are demons.

00:16:37.000 Like, I've seen what I would describe as demonic possession.

00:16:40.000 But you talk of miracles.

00:16:42.000 Take a look at this.

00:16:43.000 This is just Google.

00:16:44.000 This is just Google.

00:16:45.000 Look at this.

00:16:46.000 A mural honoring George Floyd in Toledo.

00:16:48.000 I'm sorry, it was in Ohio, not Minnesota.

00:16:50.000 Was destroyed after being struck by lightning.

00:16:53.000 Look, when this happened, we were like, look, see this right here in the middle that got blown out?

00:16:59.000 I wonder if there's actual pictures of that's what it looked like before.

00:17:02.000 They put a crown on him, and a lot of people were like, he was a false idol.

00:17:06.000 And the lightning struck only the side of the building, destroying only the mural where the crown was.

00:17:12.000 I'm like, bro. 1.00

00:17:13.000 It should have hit those poles first because they're way higher up in the air. 0.93

00:17:13.000 It's crazy. 0.93

00:17:16.000 Not even the grass is singed.

00:17:18.000 The mural was called Take a Breath, by the way.

00:17:22.000 Dated by David Ross, yeah, in July of 2013.

00:17:24.000 Dude, this is crazy stuff.

00:17:25.000 So, anyway.

00:17:27.000 God is real.

00:17:28.000 But back to the actual story.

00:17:28.000 Yeah.

00:17:30.000 I'm just relieved that it's a first time thing.

00:17:31.000 Yeah.

00:17:32.000 I think they're going to hunt this guy down.

00:17:35.000 And I question whether or not the federal government's going to provide any kind of support.

00:17:39.000 There's something called the Supremacy Clause.

00:17:42.000 So there's also a degree of immunity that federal law enforcement agents have when carrying out their duties.

00:17:49.000 They cannot be charged by state and local officials, typically.

00:17:52.000 But state and local officials can argue that the actions taken were outside the scope.

00:17:57.000 Of duty for federal law enforcement.

00:17:59.000 Of course, this guy was on shift driving back to HQ when a vehicle obstructed him.

00:18:05.000 So, vehicles are deadly weapons.

00:18:08.000 He drew up and said, Police stop.

00:18:10.000 I guess that sounds like everything's clean.

00:18:12.000 Should he have thrown his lights?

00:18:14.000 Do ICE even have police?

00:18:15.000 They were rental vehicles.

00:18:16.000 They may have had like, you get little lights you plug in or whatever.

00:18:16.000 They didn't have lights.

00:18:20.000 Or they put him in the dash.

00:18:21.000 A normal on duty cop would just pull the guy over.

00:18:23.000 He wouldn't point at his gun and point it at the guy.

00:18:26.000 Well, considering we're coming off of. 0.99

00:18:30.000 Renee Good and Pretty.

00:18:32.000 More importantly, we had seen terror attacks against ICE.

00:18:36.000 When they shot up the ICE facility, that one guy with the rifle shot the vans up, killed illegal immigrants.

00:18:42.000 You had the, was it five Antifa guys?

00:18:45.000 Several acted like decoys outside the facility in Texas.

00:18:48.000 Then when the ICE came out to stop the protest, a guy hiding in the woods started shooting at them.

00:18:52.000 So, what are these agents supposed to think when a vehicle pulls out in front of them and blocks them in?

00:18:58.000 When that happened in Chicago, there's video of this.

00:19:01.000 They start shooting.

00:19:02.000 One vehicle rammed the ICE vehicle from behind.

00:19:04.000 So this guy's freaking out.

00:19:07.000 This is the problem.

00:19:08.000 The Democrats are going to argue he had no reason to fear harm.

00:19:13.000 They just pulled in front of him.

00:19:15.000 They will intentionally wipe out the context of every circumstance in the weeks and months leading up to this moment where ICE agents had been rammed from behind, boxed in, or shot at.

00:19:26.000 I want to see if he was marked, if he had a uniform on, if the car in any way indicated that he was an officer.

00:19:33.000 Because if not, they have a local case.

00:19:36.000 Whether or not the federal government can overstep.

00:19:38.000 Well, I mean, federal officer unmarked points a gun at you.

00:19:41.000 Like, there should be some local recourse to protect you from that.

00:19:44.000 Plain clothes cops often draw weapons on people.

00:19:48.000 Now, I agree with you that there are concerns about how we deal with that.

00:19:52.000 Because in the case of it was.

00:19:56.000 Brianna Taylor, what was her name?

00:19:58.000 The one in Louisville. 0.96

00:19:59.000 The woman where they shot through the apartment.

00:20:00.000 The no knock warrant thing.

00:20:01.000 Yeah, was that Brianna Taylor?

00:20:02.000 Yeah, that was Brianna Taylor.

00:20:03.000 Brianna Taylor, yeah.

00:20:04.000 Her boyfriend got acquitted because he said he did not know it was police who were shooting into the building, and so he shot back.

00:20:11.000 And they said, okay.

00:20:12.000 None of those cops.

00:20:13.000 Well, actually, it may not be true.

00:20:14.000 I think those cops did get in trouble because the system is.

00:20:16.000 Well, some of their bullets went through the wall.

00:20:18.000 It was kind of reckless.

00:20:20.000 Could have hit somebody else.

00:20:21.000 That was the whole proposition was preposterous.

00:20:22.000 They're like, she was killed because of her race, and they literally never saw her physically. 0.82

00:20:25.000 There was no way for them to know that she was black.

00:20:27.000 But the point is.

00:20:28.000 If a police officer has legitimate fear of harm, they're allowed to draw their weapon and tell you not to move, plain clothes or otherwise.

00:20:37.000 I agree with you that there are problems there.

00:20:39.000 Like, some dude will, like, a guy will be outside your door and you'll see him through a ring camera or whatever, and he's wearing a hoodie and jeans and he's holding a gun.

00:20:47.000 You're not going to assume a cop.

00:20:48.000 So, what do you do, right?

00:20:50.000 However, my point ultimately is upon the resolution of this matter, it's clean.

00:20:57.000 Local officials and prosecutors should have said nobody was hurt.

00:21:01.000 It was a federal law enforcement officer telling people to stop.

00:21:04.000 Case dismissed.

00:21:05.000 There's nothing to charge here.

00:21:06.000 Yeah, I think anyone reasonably would infer that if they've just committed a crime, or at least they're like, whoa, I just might have done some sort of legal violation in whatever capacity, and then you're engaged by someone with a firearm, you would probably assume, okay, that's law enforcement.

00:21:20.000 I understand what you're saying.

00:21:22.000 If those two are just walking down the street and then a guy pulls a gun on them, it's like, yeah, you're not going to think that's a cop.

00:21:26.000 But in this instance, when again, something suspect just went down, and then you're engaged by someone, Saying I'm police and they have a firearm, you'd probably assume that's a police officer or some sort of law enforcement agent.

00:21:37.000 Now, I had a job, I was embedded with police officers for five years.

00:21:40.000 So I worked directly with them, went on a good thousand missions, right?

00:21:45.000 One thing that's really important too, because I'm very much a strong supporter of public safety, is we got to also make sure that we vet these officers because we're giving them an enormous amount of responsibility.

00:21:58.000 I was very fortunate to work with some really solid police officers.

00:22:02.000 But I'm a big believer in vetting them and basically holding them to a higher standard big time.

00:22:06.000 It's extremely important.

00:22:08.000 With the stuff I did, emotions are always high.

00:22:10.000 We weren't always liked, and you had to keep cool 100% of the time.

00:22:14.000 And that was not easy sometimes.

00:22:15.000 I don't think any human's capable of it, personally, of 100%.

00:22:19.000 Do you think robots would be better police officers?

00:22:19.000 Extremely difficult.

00:22:21.000 No.

00:22:23.000 Did you see the video of the robot chasing the pigs?

00:22:26.000 I heard about it.

00:22:27.000 The pigs got away.

00:22:28.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:22:29.000 I'm not kidding. 0.98

00:22:29.000 That sucks. 0.98

00:22:30.000 There's a video a robot was chasing after some escaped wild boars. 0.99

00:22:32.000 They're impressive in that.

00:22:33.000 Yeah, they made a.

00:22:34.000 What are you calling the drone fella?

00:22:34.000 I should pull that one.

00:22:35.000 The flyers.

00:22:36.000 I was laughing my ass off when I saw this video.

00:22:38.000 And a lot of things are always taken out of context.

00:22:40.000 I met, remember once we checked on a homeless woman who was suicidal, and four officers and myself were talking with her.

00:22:49.000 And across the street, there was a lady filming us yelling, say, look, the homeless are harassing, or sorry, the police are harassing the homeless, right?

00:22:56.000 And the most miraculous thing happened is the homeless woman stood up, walked across the street, and said, no, they're helping me.

00:23:02.000 Stop, whatever you're doing, turn it off.

00:23:05.000 But everything's taken out of context.

00:23:06.000 So what this person was hoping.

00:23:08.000 Is that they would get a 20 second clip of four large police officers and myself surrounding a homeless woman as if we're harassing her when we're actually trying to talk her through her mental health crisis.

00:23:20.000 And that's what we dealt with every single day things were taken out of context.

00:23:25.000 They didn't add the whole video, they would look for five seconds and be like, how dare they?

00:23:29.000 And that was almost never the case.

00:23:32.000 Man, you have more experience with police officers probably than anybody in the room.

00:23:36.000 I was very fortunate to be embedded with them for a long time.

00:23:39.000 So I got to see firsthand what they go through.

00:23:42.000 And it's extremely difficult.

00:23:45.000 You know, emotions are high.

00:23:47.000 People would sometimes like jump out of bushes with fake guns, thinking it was funny to point them at officers.

00:23:54.000 And the officers, you know, like they're well trained.

00:23:57.000 So like they would split up, two would drop to the ground, two would like point.

00:24:01.000 And I'm like, this is crazy.

00:24:03.000 And it happened all the time. 0.99

00:24:05.000 And usually it was just like dumb kids thinking it was funny. 0.99

00:24:07.000 They were just very lucky. 0.97

00:24:09.000 The officers I worked with were so well trained, they never crossed any of those lines.

00:24:15.000 But one would argue, too, you almost would expect them to sometimes because what do you expect?

00:24:20.000 Because you never know whether their life isn't truly in danger or not.

00:24:23.000 Yeah, I don't want to, like, obviously it's personal and like I don't want to call anybody out, but like, did you see guys break?

00:24:29.000 Like, I can't take it anymore, but I'm still here.

00:24:29.000 Did you see them?

00:24:31.000 I've seen a few lose their cool, where after hours and hours of extremely difficult work where they're just being yelled out.

00:24:39.000 They would lash back out on them.

00:24:41.000 And then a sergeant would step in and be like, You need to stand down, go in your car, or clock out, whatever.

00:24:48.000 And so, luckily, we also had a good sergeant.

00:24:51.000 And the job of a sergeant is just to make sure that their four to five officers are doing their job.

00:24:56.000 And a sergeant's job is to make sure, Do they have the temperament for this in this moment?

00:25:01.000 If they don't, a good sergeant will tell them, Walk away.

00:25:05.000 And that's what you always hope for.

00:25:07.000 It's not always the case.

00:25:08.000 I want to show you the future of policing right here with this video.

00:25:16.000 Where is this happening?

00:25:17.000 Poland. 1.00

00:25:18.000 He's so. 1.00

00:25:19.000 Get him!

00:25:20.000 Whoa!

00:25:21.000 Come on.

00:25:21.000 He has infinite stamina.

00:25:22.000 Come on, brother.

00:25:23.000 You can do it.

00:25:24.000 I believe in you.

00:25:25.000 Run him down, dude. 1.00

00:25:26.000 Just like the old hominids. 1.00

00:25:28.000 Yo, what is it? 1.00

00:25:30.000 Yo, this is holographic.

00:25:32.000 Suddenly, I'm not so worried about the Terminator anymore.

00:25:34.000 Bro, he should be radioing.

00:25:35.000 Look, he just gives up.

00:25:38.000 There's another one there.

00:25:39.000 What?

00:25:40.000 What's going on?

00:25:40.000 Wild boar friend of yours.

00:25:41.000 Okay, this is staged.

00:25:42.000 This is fake.

00:25:43.000 It's gotta be, dude.

00:25:44.000 It's too funny.

00:25:44.000 It's gotta be.

00:25:45.000 It's like they overlaid a horse trolley.

00:25:47.000 Should we buy one of these guys?

00:25:49.000 Yeah.

00:25:51.000 Yes.

00:25:51.000 Every year.

00:25:52.000 How do I do it?

00:25:53.000 Yeah, as they upgrade it.

00:25:54.000 Yeah.

00:25:54.000 And then, like, put him in a museum as the years go on, you know, like the original Model T, because you know you're not going to be able to buy these old ones anymore.

00:26:01.000 Yo, he's $20,000.

00:26:02.000 Whoa.

00:26:03.000 Probably worth $20,000.

00:26:04.000 If it can do anything, sweep the floors around here from Robo Store.

00:26:08.000 A new Kia.

00:26:09.000 That feels interesting.

00:26:10.000 Can you open up Robo Store?

00:26:11.000 What is going on?

00:26:12.000 Robo Shop.

00:26:12.000 I don't know if it can do grocery runs yet, but it could keep this place clean.

00:26:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:15.000 I mean, if there's any hogs, it could at least try. 1.00

00:26:18.000 It can at least try. 1.00

00:26:19.000 I mean, the hogs would be stuck in the building at least, so they would have. 1.00

00:26:21.000 To, I mean, you'd have some. 1.00

00:26:22.000 Wait, did they train robots to learn how to fire weapons?

00:26:25.000 That'll be fun.

00:26:26.000 I mean, like dogs, because they can sprint and shoot.

00:26:26.000 They already have those.

00:26:29.000 Yo, these are too expensive.

00:26:30.000 What the.

00:26:31.000 I'm not buying this.

00:26:32.000 There's going to be probably $60,000?

00:26:36.000 Just to give up halfway after chasing some pigs? 0.77

00:26:38.000 What animals can they catch, do we know?

00:26:40.000 Probably, you can't catch a pig.

00:26:41.000 What can you catch?

00:26:42.000 Sloths.

00:26:43.000 Enough to catch a sloth.

00:26:44.000 To sleep?

00:26:45.000 Maybe?

00:26:46.000 Sleeping sloth.

00:26:47.000 Good luck catching me.

00:26:49.000 There are no robots on sale at RoboStore.

00:26:52.000 Maybe if I try RoboStore.

00:26:53.000 Squirt guns turn out to be our best defense.

00:26:55.000 Squirt guns, it's over.

00:26:56.000 That's why everyone's worried about AI and the squirt guns.

00:26:58.000 We were super soakers all along.

00:26:59.000 Yeah, let's see what we got going on here at the Robo Store.

00:27:02.000 Let's look at the full lineup.

00:27:03.000 I'm stamped for the robots, but I think that's because I've been. 1.00

00:27:05.000 Humanoids. 0.91

00:27:07.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:27:08.000 Hey, there we go.

00:27:09.000 That's the guy. 0.97

00:27:10.000 He can dance, but he can't catch a pig.

00:27:13.000 He's just too. 1.00

00:27:14.000 Unitree humanoids.

00:27:16.000 It can beat people apparently with the. 0.95

00:27:18.000 Whoa, look at that.

00:27:20.000 He's going to spin it.

00:27:21.000 Okay.

00:27:21.000 He's like Donovan.

00:27:22.000 He's not very good at it.

00:27:23.000 He's not even a good spin.

00:27:25.000 They're showing us the cruddy version on purpose because they got the good ones behind the scenes.

00:27:29.000 They're just going to unleash them all at once.

00:27:29.000 Yeah.

00:27:31.000 Should I spend $17,000 on what?

00:27:35.000 What's the difference between this one?

00:27:37.000 Why is this one $60,000?

00:27:38.000 Is that the best standard versus.

00:27:40.000 How about the one that's $17,000?

00:27:41.000 Two hours of battery life, 23 degrees.

00:27:43.000 Two hours?

00:27:44.000 He can probably walk back to the charging station on his own.

00:27:47.000 Tactile Inspire, five hands and wrists.

00:27:49.000 Can we hang out with you?

00:27:50.000 Can you chop it?

00:27:51.000 Look at this guy.

00:27:51.000 This guy's cheap.

00:27:52.000 Oh, yeah, he might be able to play Magic.

00:27:53.000 Bro, if he can get good at Magic, Tim.

00:27:55.000 Tim, he could beat you at Magic.

00:27:56.000 How about this $100,000 one?

00:27:58.000 Buy what it can do.

00:28:00.000 This one could play soccer.

00:28:01.000 Look at that.

00:28:02.000 You can actually.

00:28:02.000 Well, I mean, the Apple products that are.

00:28:04.000 Oh, this one's got a face, dude.

00:28:06.000 Whatever you buy will be obsolete in six months.

00:28:09.000 Yep.

00:28:09.000 I know, right?

00:28:10.000 And it'll probably be $7,000 if it's even the model.

00:28:13.000 Tell me what you're on about.

00:28:14.000 You'll be embarrassed.

00:28:15.000 This is the standard trim package.

00:28:17.000 But what does it do?

00:28:19.000 OAC roll up.

00:28:20.000 What does it do?

00:28:21.000 Can I get the groceries from my car and bring it in?

00:28:24.000 Probably.

00:28:24.000 I'm sure it could.

00:28:26.000 But I don't need it because I'm a man and I can carry all the groceries in one go.

00:28:29.000 It can definitely play magic.

00:28:30.000 It could do a show.

00:28:32.000 Stream live, stream live, mop, have takes, play magic, and be funny.

00:28:36.000 Yeah, these have takes.

00:28:37.000 Oh, you know, to be honest, a camera person, seriously, if you were trying to vlog and buying one of these robots is cheaper than hiring somebody, it's a basic thing.

00:28:48.000 And then it just follows you around and it's filming as it's following behind you, and then you just turn around and talk to it, and that's pretty wild.

00:28:53.000 It's like if you're covering a protest and they beat up a humanoid robot, that's worse than just breaking a camera.

00:28:58.000 It feels like it feels like it's breaking apart.

00:29:00.000 I mean, but you know what I would do is I would program it so that it would.

00:29:04.000 Be really sad when it's getting beaten.

00:29:05.000 So when the people are beating, it's going, no, please.

00:29:08.000 Go to the fetal position.

00:29:09.000 I can't breathe.

00:29:11.000 I can't breathe.

00:29:14.000 Hands up, don't shoot.

00:29:16.000 And they'd be like, he's speaking our language.

00:29:16.000 The robots.

00:29:18.000 He's communicating.

00:29:20.000 He's one of us.

00:29:22.000 I think you should get one, but they don't.

00:29:24.000 You know what's really funny?

00:29:25.000 I bet you can plug your phone into it to charge your phone.

00:29:27.000 Oh.

00:29:28.000 So you're like walking down the street and you like plug your phone in and it's just walking next to you.

00:29:31.000 It's got like 17 phones plugged into them all these years.

00:29:33.000 But here's what you do.

00:29:34.000 Here's the best part the people who have the AI waifus from like ChatGPT or whatever, you just mount the tablet to the face.

00:29:41.000 And then as you're walking, you can talk to your AI waifu.

00:29:45.000 Be nice, you know.

00:29:45.000 I wonder if a dude's gonna get the AI waifu robot and then get a male robot just to watch him go at it.

00:29:50.000 I will say, Whoa, whoa, whoa. 0.80

00:29:52.000 I'm just wondering, you're calling him a cuck, yeah, yeah.

00:29:54.000 If he's into that five years, they're gonna have skin, in five years, they'll have skin and body parts.

00:29:59.000 I know, yeah, and then it's gonna get extra weird.

00:30:06.000 Cyber, that's crazy, Cyber Daddy, because it'll be like your VR robot avatar, and then you'll it'll actually be the real robot as well, so you'll be able to do it in your dreams and in waking life.

00:30:16.000 It'll be the one robot is just like I want a lemon.

00:30:19.000 Yeah.

00:30:20.000 And you're like, okay.

00:30:21.000 Or like the guy gets a girlfriend and she's like, it's not working out between us.

00:30:25.000 What if you get dumped by an AI robot?

00:30:27.000 Reformat you.

00:30:28.000 Reformat.

00:30:30.000 That's that whole movie, Companion.

00:30:31.000 Did you guys see that movie?

00:30:32.000 Oh, I've not. 0.96

00:30:33.000 It's where this woman's a robot and spoiler, I guess, they hack her firmware so that she murders a guy so they can blame the robot on going rogue or whatever. 1.00

00:30:46.000 But then she becomes self aware or something. 0.95

00:30:49.000 And then, you know.

00:30:50.000 I've been sent to be self aware too.

00:30:52.000 I've got so much.

00:30:54.000 Concern about the robot coming, robot armies, and things that we're going to be seeing, the drone ellipse or whatever you want to call it.

00:31:00.000 But you deal with humans.

00:31:01.000 I mean, you're basically in the depth of humanity with dealing with the homelessness.

00:31:05.000 Do you see any value to bringing robots to help this thing, like clean up the parks, protect the people?

00:31:11.000 Well, my biggest concern always is that they're going to replace people.

00:31:15.000 I mean, I guess it would be okay if they're doing the mundane jobs.

00:31:19.000 But you know, most stores now have those robots that now just clean the floors.

00:31:24.000 And maybe that's good that we don't have to.

00:31:26.000 But at some point, we're just going to replace humans from doing most types of activities.

00:31:32.000 And that's a little bit of a concern of mine.

00:31:34.000 It's like basic income.

00:31:36.000 How do you see it?

00:31:37.000 Well, what are we going to do to be productive members of society?

00:31:41.000 Well, basic income is not possible.

00:31:45.000 The funny thing about universal basic income is that it violates the laws of thermodynamics.

00:31:49.000 When you need to get into politics, it just violates the laws of thermodynamics.

00:31:52.000 You cannot have an output that is greater than your input.

00:31:55.000 Just thank you.

00:31:57.000 So, the idea that you will have tons of people not doing anything but getting stuff is just not possible.

00:32:04.000 What if we're doing like if some people are overloading the system with electricity because they're taking in solar, and then those people get a lot of money, but they're giving so much that there's enough left over to give the basic income to the rest?

00:32:15.000 Well, while it's probably inevitable, doesn't mean I have to necessarily support it.

00:32:19.000 I'm old school.

00:32:20.000 I don't think it is inevitable because it can't be done.

00:32:24.000 You cannot give every.

00:32:25.000 There's a million and one issues with this.

00:32:27.000 And it's funny.

00:32:28.000 Charles Murray wrote about this because he proposed a $10,000 per year universal basic income.

00:32:35.000 The problem then is if you give people below a certain threshold of income, UBI, people who make slightly above that will stop working.

00:32:44.000 You will then inhibit productivity.

00:32:46.000 So if someone makes $20,000 a year, but everyone else is getting $10K for free, but works zero hours and they're getting $20K for 40 hours, they're going to say, So I can work zero hours for half the money?

00:32:56.000 I can make it work.

00:32:58.000 I'll busk.

00:32:58.000 I'll panhandle.

00:32:59.000 I'll work under the table, try and find some way.

00:33:02.000 So he proposes no, just give everyone 10K.

00:33:06.000 That way it's a baseline that you get access to.

00:33:09.000 And then after that, what you want for luxuries, you earn.

00:33:14.000 Still doesn't work because I guarantee you there will be a lot of people who work at McDonald's, Taco Bell, Target, Walmart, or otherwise.

00:33:22.000 And I'm not disparaging those jobs.

00:33:23.000 But I got to be honest go to anybody who works at a Starbucks and say, You can work 40 hours a week for $10,000 plus an additional 15 with your hourly wage, or work zero and just take the 10K.

00:33:35.000 And they're going to be like, bro, me and my friends are going to rent out a studio apartment for dirt, and we're all going to sleep on bunk beds so we don't have to go to work anymore and we can just go smell the flowers.

00:33:45.000 Okay.

00:33:46.000 If you're doing that, and I'll tell you, these people exist, we know they do, then who's going to be maintaining the box stores?

00:33:53.000 Who's going to be doing low skilled labor?

00:33:56.000 Considering what we already see with homelessness in your experience as well.

00:34:00.000 Imagine if we just told a lot of people you don't have to work for a base level anymore.

00:34:04.000 People will say, okay, and they'll stop.

00:34:06.000 And then your input drops dramatically, but your output increases exponentially.

00:34:11.000 Yeah, Kevin, if you saw that, because you already said you're kind of against it, but if you saw all those homeless people that you've been working with all of a sudden had $10,000 a year coming in, would that help them in your estimation?

00:34:22.000 Well, probably not.

00:34:23.000 But real quick, it would help everybody else because a lot of them would overdose much more quickly and then they'd be gone.

00:34:30.000 Ooh, you're thinking outside the box.

00:34:32.000 I'm being sarcastic, but.

00:34:34.000 It's probably true.

00:34:35.000 Given a person with a history of lax critical thinking and rational thought, $10,000 will blow it in all the wrong reasons and they will die off very, very quickly.

00:34:46.000 Maybe that's the actual plan.

00:34:48.000 Give everybody the money and then all the drug addicts just drug addict out right away.

00:34:52.000 They go full OD clavicular, you know what I mean?

00:34:54.000 Yeah, without structure, a homeless addict with $10,000, 95% of the time, will use it for the wrong reasons and end up killing themselves.

00:35:07.000 If they're getting it in pieces, like $200 a week or $500 a week or something, you think it'd be the same problem?

00:35:11.000 In some ways, you know, I was in Anchorage, Alaska a couple years ago doing a homeless documentary with Tyler Oliveira and the natives there, the native Alaskans, receive like stock.

00:35:23.000 So, because they're Alaskan, they receive this stipend every month, right?

00:35:27.000 And virtually every single one uses that towards drinking and drugs.

00:35:32.000 And they all admitted, well, we don't really have to try that hard because the state takes care of us.

00:35:38.000 So, some got 200, some got 400, kind of depend on what type of Alaskan they were or what percent Alaskan they were.

00:35:38.000 And that's an issue.

00:35:45.000 And so, at least in that case, it certainly didn't work.

00:35:48.000 We should relocate the show to Alaska.

00:35:50.000 I would like to check it out.

00:35:51.000 Oh, bro, Alaska's actually pretty awesome.

00:35:51.000 That'd be cool.

00:35:53.000 We should go for a week or something.

00:35:54.000 Yeah, Alaska.

00:35:55.000 You know what we should do?

00:35:57.000 We wanted to do the show in Nome.

00:35:59.000 Is that the most northern city?

00:36:00.000 The dog sled?

00:36:00.000 No, it's a dog sled one.

00:36:04.000 Alaska is phenomenal.

00:36:06.000 80% of the homeless people I met there were missing minimum two to three fingers and toes.

00:36:12.000 Frostbite?

00:36:12.000 Wow.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, frostbite.

00:36:14.000 And several had no fingers or toes because if you fall asleep even once on the cold night, you're going to lose something.

00:36:23.000 And so what you see at night, and I wanted to experience it, So, on their last night there, I decided to stay up all night.

00:36:30.000 And what the homeless will do in at least Anchorage is they stay awake all night, they sleep during the day, right?

00:36:36.000 The ones who sleep outdoors, and you can't just like sit outdoors.

00:36:40.000 So, what you do is you walk in circles around this park.

00:36:43.000 And so, for seven hours, I walked with them and interviewed them, and they do it to stay warm, but they're all drinking too.

00:36:50.000 And fentanyl is pretty difficult to get in Alaska.

00:36:53.000 So, the drug of choice there seems to be alcohol and a little bit of meth, right?

00:36:57.000 So, all night long, they just walked.

00:37:00.000 And then, when it hit 9, 10 a.m., when it got a little bit nicer out, that's when they slept.

00:37:04.000 Because you sleep in the nighttime, you will die or at least lose a limb.

00:37:10.000 When you say meth, is it crystal meth?

00:37:12.000 Is that the type of methamphetamine they're in?

00:37:14.000 But really, it just seems to be alcohol.

00:37:15.000 Vodka was by far very, very popular.

00:37:19.000 It's interesting that, like in the desert, they'll sleep, they'll be awake at night, at least at Burning Man, I was.

00:37:25.000 And then we sleep during the day till 4 p.m., but they just do that up north.

00:37:29.000 Yeah, it's where the Iditarod ends, I believe.

00:37:29.000 Yep.

00:37:32.000 Is that what it is?

00:37:33.000 It ends there?

00:37:34.000 I think it ends there, yeah.

00:37:34.000 Yeah.

00:37:35.000 And we were actually, I was up there and we were talking to some people about possibly sponsoring some of the dog sledders.

00:37:35.000 What's that?

00:37:41.000 That'd be cool.

00:37:42.000 Because while it's very well known, the Iditarod, it's actually not well funded to a great degree relative to a lot of other, I guess you'd call it heritage sports or whatever.

00:37:52.000 And so we were talking to a handful of people, like it'd be cool to sponsor somebody.

00:37:56.000 It's pretty nuts how they do the dog sled race.

00:38:00.000 It's through the wilderness basically, yeah.

00:38:02.000 Yeah, like GoPro.

00:38:03.000 Are they at the point where they're GoProing and even the dog?

00:38:05.000 I don't know.

00:38:06.000 Put a star link on one of those sleds and then just live stream the whole thing.

00:38:10.000 Wasn't Palin's husband a world champion?

00:38:13.000 Oh, sledder or something.

00:38:15.000 Go back to Chris.

00:38:16.000 I've heard.

00:38:17.000 I didn't know.

00:38:17.000 Look like kind of north of it.

00:38:18.000 There's a place called Mary's Igloo.

00:38:19.000 I want to go there.

00:38:21.000 Mary's Igloo, huh?

00:38:22.000 It's on the map. 0.97

00:38:23.000 Mary, anyway.

00:38:24.000 Mary, there's nothing there, bro.

00:38:25.000 Wait, wait.

00:38:25.000 It's green.

00:38:26.000 Oh, there's the igloo.

00:38:27.000 There's little houses.

00:38:29.000 Oh, bro, of course, Alaska's farming season is insanely long.

00:38:34.000 In the summer, there's no night.

00:38:36.000 Right, so it's just daytime all the time.

00:38:38.000 That's when I want to go.

00:38:39.000 We want to do that.

00:38:40.000 24 hours of sunlight.

00:38:42.000 Maybe Mary's Igloo Tree.

00:38:43.000 It's not, well, in the Arctic Circle, you will get it, but there's no trees up there either because there's no grass, it's just mud.

00:38:49.000 So in the summer, it's all mud, and in the winter, it's just tundra.

00:38:52.000 You have to go below the Arctic Circle because trees don't grow in the Arctic Circle.

00:38:56.000 No trees. 0.97

00:38:57.000 One thing interesting about, at least, with the homeless crisis in Alaska, is there they don't put up with any crap, the local government. 0.74

00:39:03.000 And for the first time ever, I would see them literally just bulldoze erect tents, right? 0.52

00:39:10.000 Basically, just announce time for you to go.

00:39:14.000 And they would bring out their bulldozers.

00:39:16.000 And I filmed it and I was just shocking.

00:39:18.000 They are super, super aggressive there.

00:39:20.000 I heard now, California is known for being going easy on the homeless population.

00:39:23.000 Yes.

00:39:24.000 But I heard my friend was working up in San Francisco and she said they would come out at 4 a.m. with fire hoses and blast dudes off the sidewalk with fire hoses.

00:39:32.000 And she got footage of it.

00:39:33.000 And then the footage was banned off the internet and like, They kept it secret.

00:39:36.000 Have you heard of that then?

00:39:37.000 So I got to fact check.

00:39:39.000 Trees can grow in the Arctic Circle, but just in the southern portion, as you get further north and you get permafrost, they can't actually grow in the river.

00:39:45.000 Because it's even frozen in the summer, which is wild. 0.63

00:39:47.000 So what the Inuit would do is they would dig huge holes and they would throw all the whale into the hole because it's frozen even throughout the summer. 0.92

00:39:54.000 It's a natural ice box. 0.92

00:39:55.000 Yeah.

00:39:56.000 Well, regardless of how liberal a city is, if it's considered a tourist city, they will use high powered water early mornings to keep it clean so tourism thrives.

00:40:08.000 Oh, So, they'll get rid of like feces, but also the people that might be producing that.

00:40:12.000 So, you'll see this in San Francisco and Portland, where tourism is big, certain areas.

00:40:19.000 So, even if it's very liberal government, they still admit that tourism is so important that they will do that, like, you know, which most activists wouldn't be okay with.

00:40:29.000 But the fact is, they still need to generate income.

00:40:31.000 Yeah.

00:40:32.000 It seems like if tourism is enough to make them snap and hit dudes with water hoses, that there might be other things that might cause that too, like an invasion.

00:40:39.000 Who knows what kind of things?

00:40:40.000 So, maybe we should try and.

00:40:44.000 Dude, this homeless industrial thing is crazy because if you get these people off the street, that industry fails.

00:40:49.000 Yeah, and let's.

00:40:51.000 All the jobs are lost, bro.

00:40:52.000 And here's the irony or whatever.

00:40:54.000 The very people we've placed in charge to end the crisis are benefiting from the crisis.

00:40:58.000 Well, they don't want it to stop.

00:41:00.000 No, they don't.

00:41:01.000 What once was a cause has become this multi billion dollar industry, right?

00:41:05.000 I'm in my early 50s.

00:41:07.000 I've done this a long time.

00:41:08.000 And it truly felt, certainly in the 90s, we were making a real effort, at least from what I observed.

00:41:14.000 Over the last 10 years, it's become very radicalized.

00:41:17.000 The system.

00:41:18.000 Where it became less of a humanitarian crisis and more of an ideological one.

00:41:25.000 And that's kind of when things changed.

00:41:27.000 And so, for a lot of these activists who work within the system, they consider this an ideological fight.

00:41:33.000 Oh, so instead of trying to help the homeless, they're trying to stop homelessness, an idea.

00:41:37.000 Well, what they're trying to do is they're trying to abolish capitalism because what they will say is that the root cause of homelessness, addiction, crime, all of it is capitalism.

00:41:49.000 So, their focus, what I've seen, Isn't really to end homelessness, it's to abolish capitalism because if they do, homelessness will naturally end itself.

00:41:59.000 But which is insane, it makes no sense, and it's never gonna happen.

00:42:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:42:02.000 I mean, look, we could get into the argument about what role capitalism has to play with everything.

00:42:08.000 But for me, when I see a homeless person nodded out or on the street, I don't care how they got there and whether it was capitalism or addiction or mental illness or childhood trauma.

00:42:18.000 My concern is that they're there, and we as a community gotta find a way to help them because this doesn't work for them and it doesn't work for us.

00:42:26.000 Yeah, my experience.

00:42:26.000 That's it.

00:42:28.000 So I spent time in Seattle.

00:42:29.000 Are you familiar with the Avrats?

00:42:31.000 What that refers to?

00:42:33.000 No, but I know Seattle very well.

00:42:34.000 University Avenue has a group of homeless kids, teenagers, called the AV Rats.

00:42:39.000 I know what you're talking about now, yeah.

00:42:41.000 It is a desirable and status thing to be.

00:42:44.000 And so a lot of these young kids that I met, teenagers, so I was like 21 at the time, so they were like 17.

00:42:50.000 They would hop the rails and from all over the country ride the freight to Seattle to be homeless in the university district, intentionally to be one of the rats.

00:43:00.000 And so there was like, I don't know, 10 or 12 of them.

00:43:03.000 And, uh, I'd ask people, be like those kids that are always here.

00:43:07.000 And they're like, yeah, those are the rats. 0.86

00:43:08.000 They want to be here. 0.96

00:43:09.000 They want to be homeless.

00:43:10.000 You're not going to get them to leave.

00:43:12.000 They live this life on purpose.

00:43:13.000 I remember in Venice, California, people would be living in their vans on the beach.

00:43:17.000 I thought it was cool in 2007 because I was kind of rough.

00:43:21.000 But then they just made it illegal and they were all gone.

00:43:23.000 I was kind of sad.

00:43:24.000 But I don't know.

00:43:26.000 So many people choose to live outdoors.

00:43:28.000 People, I get so much hate when I say this.

00:43:32.000 And why I really started to decide to do this journalism was because people kept saying that's not true.

00:43:38.000 When I say it, So I was like, screw it.

00:43:40.000 I'll just turn my camera on the homeless and say, like, so would you like housing today?

00:43:44.000 And they're like, no, I don't.

00:43:45.000 And that's when everything changed because everyone was like, wait, is this actually true?

00:43:50.000 Because the narrative has always been this housing ends homelessness.

00:43:53.000 And why?

00:43:53.000 Because housing is a multi billion dollar industry.

00:43:56.000 Yeah, it's my favorite thing.

00:43:56.000 It's huge.

00:43:59.000 These liberals like to say, did you know that there are more empty homes than homeless?

00:44:03.000 It's because of these bankers investing in property that people can't get them.

00:44:07.000 And I'm just like, if you, let me just ask you if you took the average homeless person, Like that, that you've encountered, and put them in a house, what do you think would happen?

00:44:16.000 They would destroy the house, they would either get kicked out or the place would burn down.

00:44:21.000 No, assuming it's just here you go, the house is yours now.

00:44:24.000 And I say those with all due respect, it's just they weren't prepared, right?

00:44:27.000 And this is why the housing first model is so flawed you don't just put a person living on the streets in the middle of their addiction, off their mental health meds, into housing, they don't know how to adjust.

00:44:39.000 You have so what I've always said is shelter first housing earned, prepare them for permanent, but I don't think you can.

00:44:47.000 Not always, no.

00:44:48.000 I don't think people, millennials, only half of millennials own homes.

00:44:53.000 Gen Z, I think it's like something like, what is it, 7% or some tiny number?

00:44:57.000 And so without this generational experience, they just don't get it. 0.56

00:45:03.000 It is not easy to own a house.

00:45:05.000 It is not easy.

00:45:06.000 So, you got this Pita Tear tax in New York that Zorhan Mamdani says we're going to tax the millionaires and the billionaires and all that stuff.

00:45:12.000 What he doesn't understand is that these billionaires are spending a ton of money maintaining these buildings and hiring staff to take care of them.

00:45:19.000 You can't just have an empty building sitting around.

00:45:22.000 Animals will break in, mold, bugs, mold, a pipe will break.

00:45:27.000 So, I own a piece of property out of the state, and we have check ins once a week from somebody who works in the area.

00:45:36.000 One day they call us, like, oh, a pipe burst.

00:45:39.000 What happened?

00:45:39.000 What is it?

00:45:40.000 Oh, it's destroyed.

00:45:41.000 The floors are ruined.

00:45:42.000 You got to redo everything.

00:45:43.000 How much is it?

00:45:43.000 It's 10 grand.

00:45:45.000 Because nobody was there and a pipe burst and the pipe burst and was leaking for like three or four days.

00:45:51.000 I had an incident in my house where the water was running and then it wasn't draining as fast.

00:45:58.000 So the water got turned on and it looks like it's draining.

00:46:02.000 But the drain wasn't clearing as fast as the water was filling up.

00:46:05.000 But you couldn't tell right away because first the pipe down there starts filling up.

00:46:09.000 So, you turn the water on, it looks like it's draining.

00:46:11.000 Well, after an hour, it was just pouring all over the ground $10,000 in damages from like 30 minutes of water overflow.

00:46:19.000 The carpets are soaked.

00:46:20.000 They had to bring in those big machines to dry everything out, cut out the drywall, redo the wood.

00:46:25.000 You take a homeless person and you factor in the accidental water damage that might occur, that place will burn down.

00:46:33.000 It will burn down.

00:46:34.000 We've already seen what happens with these houses.

00:46:37.000 You'll have big, what do you call it, nests of garbage in the living room. 0.68

00:46:41.000 Just piling up, they won't take it out.

00:46:43.000 They'll just keep throwing junk into it.

00:46:45.000 What's your success rate, Kevin, with like shelter first, housing second, percentage wise, with all the people you've?

00:46:52.000 Well, I mean, it all comes down to motivation, too.

00:46:54.000 Is the person ready?

00:46:55.000 Do they actually want help?

00:46:56.000 This is why you don't just throw a person blindly into housing unless they truly show motivation and a genuine desire to get sober.

00:47:04.000 And I say this because 90% are actively using drugs.

00:47:07.000 And so that's a big, big, big barrier.

00:47:10.000 And so it really comes down to are they ready or not?

00:47:13.000 Because if they're not, it's just not going to be successful.

00:47:15.000 Now, right now, some of my haters are screaming, How dare you say this?

00:47:19.000 I'm like, I'm sorry, but it's true.

00:47:21.000 Because what I say about housing first is you don't solve the problem, you hide the problem.

00:47:26.000 So, yeah, congratulations.

00:47:28.000 You built a $100 million apartment complex.

00:47:30.000 And currently, right now, for the next month, you don't see the homeless.

00:47:33.000 It doesn't mean they're not the identical person doing the identical bad behaviors.

00:47:37.000 I'm just an accelerationist now.

00:47:37.000 You know what?

00:47:39.000 Just the longer we're gripping to the edge of the cliff with our fingers slowly popping off, the longer they just rip the band aid off.

00:47:47.000 Let society collapse.

00:47:50.000 No, no, the plague is going to appear and then you're going to drop into the airplane and fly off.

00:47:54.000 You're going to be okay.

00:47:55.000 I don't think so.

00:47:56.000 Hold on.

00:47:57.000 Because I'm thinking about these lefties that are like, we should just give houses to the hobos.

00:48:01.000 The hobos should just be able to have a house.

00:48:04.000 And like the Zoran Mandani thing, I should pull up the Zoran Mandani thing. 0.51

00:48:07.000 We should talk about it.

00:48:08.000 These people have no idea what they're talking about or they're accelerationists.

00:48:12.000 So maybe I'm just pro Zoran though.

00:48:14.000 Usually what I say when I say these things is, have you ever met a real life homeless person?

00:48:18.000 And I say this not even sarcastically because I'm like, there's no way you understand this to say these things, right?

00:48:25.000 And I'm not saying this out of disrespect for the homeless.

00:48:27.000 I'm just saying we need to give them the life skill trainings to be successful.

00:48:31.000 And we are not.

00:48:32.000 Let me pull up this video.

00:48:33.000 This is going viral from Zorhan Mamdani.

00:48:36.000 He says this.

00:48:38.000 Actually, he says a lot of things, but I have to unmute the tab before he actually says anything at all.

00:48:42.000 Here you go, Mamdani.

00:48:43.000 When I ran for mayor, I said I was going to tax the rich.

00:48:48.000 Today, we're taxing the land.

00:48:50.000 I'm thrilled to announce we've secured a pied-a-terre tax, the first in New York's history.

00:48:54.000 This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than $5 million, whose owners do not live full-time in the city.

00:49:01.000 Like for this penthouse, which hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin bought for $238 million.

00:49:06.000 This pied-a-terre tax is specifically designed for the richest of the rich, those who store their wealth in New York City real estate, but who don't actually live here.

00:49:14.000 But even so, they're able to reap the huge financial rewards of owning property in, dare I say, the greatest city in the world.

00:49:20.000 And most of the time, these units are sitting empty, since again, They don't actually live here.

00:49:24.000 This is a fundamentally unfair system that hurts working New Yorkers.

00:49:28.000 Now it's coming to an end.

00:49:30.000 This tax will raise at least $500 million directly for the city.

00:49:34.000 It'll help fund things like free childcare, cleaner streets, and safer neighborhoods.

00:49:38.000 As mayor, I believe everyone has a role to play in contributing to our city, and some a little bit more than others.

00:49:44.000 Happy Tax Day, New York.

00:49:46.000 I actually wonder if Zoran is an accelerationist who's trying to destroy New York City, and I support him.

00:49:52.000 I support him.

00:49:53.000 You literally said verbatim South Africa is the model.

00:49:58.000 I'm joking because I know that from the ashes of the old, we shall build the new.

00:50:01.000 This is the saying that these communists have.

00:50:03.000 And what their new version of is hell on earth.

00:50:06.000 So let me just, you know, I'll make it really simple for everybody.

00:50:09.000 Zoran Mandani is lying.

00:50:11.000 I do not believe this is an accident. 1.00

00:50:13.000 Certainly, one could assume he's just stupid and wrong. 1.00

00:50:16.000 I will concede that. 1.00

00:50:18.000 Often people say Trump is lying.

00:50:19.000 I say, well, he could just be wrong.

00:50:20.000 Zoran Mandani, maybe he's just wrong.

00:50:23.000 Let's start here.

00:50:24.000 P2TR tax.

00:50:26.000 It's going to tax people who own property but don't live in the city. 0.61

00:50:28.000 Okay.

00:50:29.000 So Ken Griffin spends hundreds of millions of dollars on New York City.

00:50:35.000 There's staff for these buildings, services that come with it, and property taxes already paid.

00:50:41.000 So, because of that investment, the city is reaping benefits from this wealthy individual.

00:50:47.000 Now, what's going to happen is a financial planner is going to tell someone like Ken, well, we should put some real estate in your portfolio.

00:50:56.000 I'd recommend Philadelphia.

00:50:57.000 And he goes, well, what about New York?

00:50:58.000 You know, they got billionaires.

00:51:00.000 You don't want to be there.

00:51:01.000 They got a new tax on these buildings.

00:51:02.000 It's going to make it unprofitable.

00:51:03.000 It's not going to be profitable.

00:51:04.000 If you were to buy that building, you'll be losing money off your investment.

00:51:07.000 It's not worth investing somewhere else.

00:51:09.000 So, what happens?

00:51:10.000 Real estate developers are going to stop developing in New York.

00:51:13.000 Contractors are not going to have jobs.

00:51:15.000 Those contractors that go to diners to buy food won't do that.

00:51:18.000 The diners will see a depression and they'll start saying, well, we don't have the staff, we don't have the employees, we don't have the customers, we can't run this anymore.

00:51:26.000 He says that they reap the financial benefits without actually living here.

00:51:32.000 They spent money on, I'm going to put it like this.

00:51:35.000 Why do you think it is that Switzerland likes it that the people put their money in their banks?

00:51:40.000 Because then they can invest with it.

00:51:41.000 They can use that money.

00:51:43.000 So what he's saying is we should put an additional tax burden on these properties to disincentivize.

00:51:51.000 It's unfair.

00:51:53.000 They should pay more.

00:51:55.000 Okay.

00:51:56.000 What Donald Trump did in the 80s that famously helped revitalize New York was the inverse.

00:52:00.000 He built luxury buildings and told the wealthy to come.

00:52:03.000 It's cheap and classy.

00:52:06.000 Wealthy people began investing.

00:52:07.000 What happens?

00:52:08.000 You get a building like this, I guarantee the door guy's making six figures.

00:52:12.000 There's going to be staff for the building, there's going to be services from the building, there's going to be waste disposal, maintenance.

00:52:19.000 Contractors are going to have a ton of jobs from this building that he's paying into.

00:52:23.000 Those people walk downstairs and go to the local coffee shop and buy coffee.

00:52:27.000 That coffee shop says, wow, business is booming.

00:52:29.000 We have a whole bunch of new employees coming to the area.

00:52:32.000 Now they leave.

00:52:33.000 No more developers, no more economic activity.

00:52:36.000 The city starts falling apart.

00:52:38.000 That's what Trump did.

00:52:39.000 He's doing the exact opposite of what Trump did.

00:52:42.000 I think it's fair to say that Zoran Mandani knows exactly what he's doing as he guts and burns down the city.

00:52:47.000 I think he is intending to stop corporations like BlackRock from buying and owning.

00:52:52.000 He's trying to prevent that, but I don't know if this is going to work.

00:52:54.000 I don't know what he's doing.

00:52:55.000 It wouldn't because they get Federal Reserve money and don't care about it.

00:52:58.000 One could argue he wants to extract the value from these bottomless pockets.

00:53:03.000 Maybe, maybe, yeah.

00:53:04.000 Well, I was thinking, like, what is the actual benefit other than it being previously a good investment to have property there?

00:53:11.000 At this point, nothing.

00:53:11.000 What are they doing?

00:53:12.000 Yeah, you know.

00:53:13.000 So here's the question Is someone going to want to buy this property from Ken Griffin with his excess tax on it?

00:53:19.000 Maybe not.

00:53:19.000 It's going to lower the property values.

00:53:21.000 He'll probably exit quickly.

00:53:22.000 Here's the bigger picture, though. 1.00

00:53:23.000 Zoran is a liar. 1.00

00:53:24.000 Okay, guys, I know a lot of people are going to say, Tim, he could just be really dumb. 1.00

00:53:28.000 I don't think he's stupid. 0.99

00:53:30.000 I don't think he'd be mayor of New York on accident. 0.99

00:53:32.000 He's a smart, calculating guy.

00:53:34.000 When he says only on the wealthiest, what did he say?

00:53:38.000 Let's go back to the beginning.

00:53:40.000 The first in New York's history.

00:53:40.000 Smart first.

00:53:42.000 This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than $5 million.

00:53:46.000 Luxury properties worth more than $5 million.

00:53:49.000 Not that much.

00:53:50.000 That's not that much in New York City.

00:53:52.000 You're going to have a little house worth $5.2 million in the center of Manhattan.

00:53:55.000 So, how much do you need to make per year to own a $5 million house?

00:54:00.000 You're going to need a million down for a reasonable down payment.

00:54:04.000 That's not easy to get.

00:54:05.000 So, you're probably a millionaire.

00:54:07.000 You're definitely not going to be living in New York right now.

00:54:10.000 He says Ken Griffin, a billionaire, but he's talking about people who might make two or three million dollars.

00:54:16.000 Now, don't get me wrong, these are rich people.

00:54:18.000 You make two or three million dollars, you save up after a couple years with expenses and everything, might spend money on, you've saved a million down, you buy a five million dollar penthouse.

00:54:28.000 Here's the bigger picture.

00:54:29.000 What about companies that own large buildings like Trump on Fifth Avenue worth $750 million?

00:54:36.000 The question is, is this going to target Trump Towers near the UN, where you have a bunch of condos and penthouses for wealthy individuals that are now being told they have to pay an annual fee on top?

00:54:48.000 Not to mention, what is he already charging?

00:54:50.000 A 2% tax over a million they're trying to get?

00:54:53.000 Rich people are going to leave.

00:54:55.000 And I can speak to this personally because we have been asked, I have been asked about doing the show in New York.

00:55:01.000 People have said, Would you be willing to do the show in New York?

00:55:03.000 There's more talent there.

00:55:04.000 There are studios available.

00:55:05.000 I said, Absolutely not.

00:55:06.000 And they go, No, I get it.

00:55:08.000 I said, We are going to lose so much revenue from the psychopath taxes.

00:55:12.000 It's just not worth doing there.

00:55:14.000 PA maybe, but New York's out of the question.

00:55:16.000 Yeah.

00:55:17.000 And in addition, I mean, there are so many problems with doing business in New York now.

00:55:20.000 It's like kind of a miracle that it still somewhat functions.

00:55:22.000 I mean, for one, the tax he's proposing here.

00:55:25.000 While it's going to hammer these guys hard, and that's whatever, I'm not like pearl clutching necessarily.

00:55:30.000 The amount of revenue this will actually generate for the city will be a drop in the bucket relative to the potential damage they're going to do to the city economy because you're really not going to be able to extract enough money to make a big difference on the budget.

00:55:39.000 And then, in addition to that, like New York is already a really hostile place to do business.

00:55:43.000 Like I was doing some event planning thing, I used to live in New York City, and we were trying to figure out how much it would cost to stock a bar for an event.

00:55:49.000 And once you add in union labor and everything, it'd be $28.

00:55:52.000 Oh, bro, dude.

00:55:54.000 We did an event in New York City.

00:55:56.000 At a theater.

00:55:57.000 It was like a Timcast IRL live with some of our friends.

00:56:02.000 And we showed up.

00:56:04.000 You guys may remember, like James O'Keefe was there.

00:56:06.000 That was awesome.

00:56:07.000 He moonwalked in the backstage.

00:56:08.000 We filmed it.

00:56:09.000 And we show up, and I'm like, let's take a look at the surrounding, like, let's scope out the stage, the property, figure out where we're going to go.

00:56:15.000 So me and a few people, I think Ian was there, we jumped up, we walked up to the stage from the chairs, like from the theater, jumped up on the stage, started looking around, and the staffers yelled at us and kicked us off the stage.

00:56:27.000 And we were told that they would cancel the event, their union, and we are not allowed to go anywhere near the stage.

00:56:33.000 And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

00:56:36.000 I'm doing a show in two hours.

00:56:37.000 I need to know what the stage looks like.

00:56:38.000 I need to know where the cameras are going to be.

00:56:40.000 I need to know where the chairs are going to be.

00:56:41.000 I need to know where I'm entering and exiting.

00:56:42.000 And they're like, doesn't matter.

00:56:43.000 Union guy said, you're not allowed.

00:56:45.000 That's how it works. 1.00

00:56:46.000 And I was like, this is the stupidest thing ever. 1.00

00:56:48.000 It was insanely expensive. 0.99

00:56:49.000 So I'm just like, we're not doing that again.

00:56:51.000 That's nuts.

00:56:52.000 Insanely expensive.

00:56:52.000 And like, I have a family member who's like a pretty commercially successful musician.

00:56:56.000 And he's one of my cousins.

00:56:58.000 And he was conducting his tour in the United States.

00:57:01.000 And he found that New York City and Los Angeles were by far the worst crowds because not only like, is it hard to do business, but now for talent that's coming in and seeking where to do events, He crushes in like Salt Lake City, Boise, like places where there's not an influx of entertainment on any given night.

00:57:15.000 But in New York City, it's like, how do you compete?

00:57:18.000 I mean, there's like all this myriad of entertainment where the people there just are apathetic.

00:57:22.000 So now it's hard for New York City to generate money off of like entertainment.

00:57:26.000 Like it's getting across the board harder and harder.

00:57:28.000 That's why they're clutching for straws.

00:57:30.000 That's why they've done these downstate casino licenses because they're just looking for new ways to generate money.

00:57:35.000 Because Zoran himself pulled the budget up and he's like, oh, shoot, I'm not going to be able to get any of my agenda done because we literally have no money.

00:57:41.000 So, yeah, that's what he's doing.

00:57:42.000 And this is only going to make it worse.

00:57:43.000 So, you know what he's doing?

00:57:43.000 Yeah.

00:57:44.000 He's probably saying, like, look, I got a couple of years as mayor.

00:57:47.000 Let's extract as much value as possible from whatever we can so I can do my thing and then get the F out.

00:57:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:57:54.000 Yeah.

00:57:55.000 I mean, you know, it's one of these things I had on Tuesday.

00:57:59.000 I had Conscious Caracal.

00:58:01.000 He's like a South African YouTuber, and he basically just provides commentary on the situation there.

00:58:05.000 And he pointed out Zoran as an example of what's going on in the United States.

00:58:09.000 He said, when these people tell you what their plans are, he's like, they mean it.

00:58:12.000 The thing about Republicans is they just talk.

00:58:13.000 Thing about liberals, the thing about Democrats is they follow through on their agenda, or they at least die trying.

00:58:18.000 And Zoran verbatim said the model is South Africa.

00:58:22.000 What did he mean by that?

00:58:23.000 No white people? 0.75

00:58:24.000 Yeah, effectively, the end goal would be discrimination and expropriation. 0.84

00:58:29.000 He said tax the white neighborhoods on his campaign website. 0.67

00:58:31.000 Tax white people, he said. 0.86

00:58:32.000 Yeah, he's not hiding the ball.

00:58:33.000 And everything he's done, again, the only thing holding him up from enacting a South Africa like agenda is just the fact that there's still a Republican party.

00:58:41.000 You know what I can't stand about communists?

00:58:44.000 I want you to imagine it like this. 0.97

00:58:45.000 There's four guys all sitting around with their thumbs up their butts. 0.98

00:58:49.000 And one guy goes, Hey, I'm tired of sitting around here with my thumb up my butt. 0.93

00:58:53.000 He walks away, starts collecting some wood, makes a fire, and now he sits there warm by the fire. 0.95

00:58:59.000 The three other guys, let's just say they're communists, they walk over and say, It's not fair that you have fire.

00:59:05.000 We deserve that fire. 1.00

00:59:06.000 Kill him, sit around the fire. 1.00

00:59:07.000 The fire goes out. 1.00

00:59:08.000 Then they're saying, Thumbs up their butt again. 0.99

00:59:10.000 And the guy who made the fire is dead. 1.00

00:59:12.000 That's communism.

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:13.000 I mean, we saw it over and over again.

00:59:15.000 Like, you looked in, like, Rhodesia, that's modern day Zimbabwe, and they had, like, a very small minority of white farmers there.

00:59:21.000 That was the main occupation farming, but they were also, And banking.

00:59:25.000 Basically, this small minority was propping up the entire economy of, at the time it was Rhodesia.

00:59:29.000 And they had, you know, the Soviets came in and then they swept through the country.

00:59:33.000 And Robert Mugabe, who is a name that a lot of people are probably familiar with, took over and he was promising very similar reforms.

00:59:39.000 He's like, look, you know, things have gotten out of hand.

00:59:40.000 There's a lot of inequality.

00:59:41.000 Like, and he used it in racial terms.

00:59:43.000 He's saying, look, all the white minorities holding all the wealth and all the land, et cetera, et cetera. 0.70

00:59:47.000 And even a lot of white people in Rhodesia at the time were like, yeah, I guess that kind of makes sense. 0.86

00:59:52.000 Maybe we're at the point now where we can like rescind power.

00:59:55.000 And like we can spread the wealth, that sort of thing.

00:59:58.000 10 years later, they have a famine. 0.79

01:00:00.000 So it's all the people that made all the stuff, all the farmers they called dangerous elements or kulaks or what have you. 0.99

01:00:06.000 And then, yeah, you know, I'm not a fan of Atlas Shrugged because it's so on the nose.

01:00:12.000 It's like, listen, if I want to hear a guy like a libertarian or a laissez faire capitalist explain this to me, just say it.

01:00:20.000 Atlas Shrugged is literally like Ayn Rand is saying, so here's a fictional story of exactly how it would play out.

01:00:26.000 And we're like, yeah, yeah, come on, give us a little nuance.

01:00:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:29.000 Like, Give us a little bit of metaphor there.

01:00:31.000 Don't just explicitly state the communists are taking over so the rich people go to a secret place and hide.

01:00:36.000 Yeah.

01:00:37.000 Like, we get it.

01:00:38.000 They actually even underestimate it.

01:00:39.000 Like, I was actually thumbing through some newspaper articles and different articles that were written in South Africa, you know, when like the ANC was coming to power, Nelson Mandela and everything.

01:00:47.000 And a lot of like the really alarmists, like, this is a doomsday, this is the worst thing that ever happened, they were like, in 60 to 70 years, we could have rolling blackouts.

01:00:55.000 That's how bad things could get.

01:00:57.000 In 30 years, in 20 years, they had rolling blackouts.

01:00:59.000 No, it was, yeah, it was like, 15 years after the ANC took power, they like rolling back blackouts were a regular centerpiece in South Africa.

01:01:06.000 That just shows you how quickly bad things can go south, but it also shows you how fast people get adjusted to how bad things are.

01:01:13.000 Because South Africa, which the temperament of people like there is very similar to the United States, there's been no war, there's been no government collapse as far as like the actual central government collapsing.

01:01:21.000 People kind of just get used to it.

01:01:23.000 The blackouts start.

01:01:24.000 Do they vote the party out of power?

01:01:25.000 Do they riot?

01:01:26.000 No, they just put solar panels on the roof.

01:01:27.000 We should invade South Africa. 0.86

01:01:29.000 You know, some no, real quick. 0.69

01:01:31.000 Sorry, I mean.

01:01:32.000 Trump wants the Suez Canal, the Northwest Passage, and Panama, but he's forgetting about, you know, the Cape of Good Hope.

01:01:38.000 Yeah, safe passage.

01:01:38.000 Exactly.

01:01:40.000 We need that Cape. 0.74

01:01:41.000 I'm not a communist.

01:01:42.000 It's the principal trade route for our.

01:01:43.000 Shut down the ship Hormuz and the Red Sea. 0.98

01:01:46.000 Put the blockade and make them all go together.

01:01:48.000 I love it.

01:01:48.000 I've got to go around again.

01:01:50.000 I'm not a communist, but I do align with the concern of corporatocracy taking over.

01:01:55.000 And we used to have, like, you know, antitrust laws.

01:01:57.000 I'm not a communist, but.

01:01:59.000 But you would break up corporations if they got too big with, like, antitrust laws in the early 1900s.

01:02:04.000 You know, Rockefeller, Standard Oil got broke apart.

01:02:06.000 You can't now because they're global corporations.

01:02:09.000 So, American law isn't strong enough to break up BlackRock, you know?

01:02:12.000 So, we have to do some, maybe have to do some seizures or some high taxes to prevent these corporations from taking over the world.

01:02:20.000 We broke up Microsoft fairly recently.

01:02:23.000 That's good.

01:02:23.000 But I'm really concerned with BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard.

01:02:26.000 I don't know if the American government has the authority to control it.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, that's difficult.

01:02:30.000 How do you break up an asset management company?

01:02:31.000 Well, let me show you this stuff.

01:02:33.000 This is Work Reform on Reddit.

01:02:36.000 One person's Twitter is FUI quit.

01:02:39.000 The scariest thing the CEO class has ever seen is a luxury tax.

01:02:43.000 That's how detached they are from reality.

01:02:45.000 We don't hate these people enough because Linda Iacarino, responding to the pied de terre tax, said this is actually one of the scariest things I've seen and won't stop here.

01:02:56.000 And she is correct.

01:02:57.000 But these people are consumers and producers.

01:03:02.000 And there are producers from the lowest skill to the highest skill, and there are consumers from the highest skill to lowest skill as well.

01:03:08.000 Consumers can be.

01:03:10.000 People who make no money but move money around on the stock market get rich from it.

01:03:14.000 They're consumers.

01:03:15.000 They had nothing.

01:03:16.000 They just eat.

01:03:18.000 Looking at what Zoran Mandani is doing, he is a consumer, not a producer.

01:03:21.000 He is extracting value from other people, burning down New York City. 1.00

01:03:26.000 But these other consumers, they're like piranhas, they're parasites. 1.00

01:03:30.000 They just want to extract everything. 0.99

01:03:32.000 They think they deserve what you make and you own.

01:03:36.000 And when you point that out, the joke they have is.

01:03:41.000 $30,000 a year working class guy most affected.

01:03:44.000 When this post about Zorhan Mamdani's luxury tax first dropped, that was the top comment on the post on Reddit.

01:03:52.000 They said, I can just imagine the working class guy in a MAGA hat screaming and crying that the rich are getting taxed.

01:03:58.000 Because these people aren't smart enough to understand that working class guy is a superintendent.

01:04:02.000 He's the superintendent at a building owned by a billionaire, and he makes $60,000, $70,000 a year maintaining a building.

01:04:09.000 And now that they're forcing him to sell, he's going to lose his job.

01:04:12.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:04:13.000 How do you.

01:04:15.000 Stop giant megacorps from taking over the country building by building without destroying the fabric of society in the process.

01:04:22.000 Because if they all leave New York, New York falls flat and then crime runs rampant.

01:04:26.000 And so.

01:04:28.000 Who wants to read that one?

01:04:28.000 Look at this.

01:04:30.000 I'll read this one.

01:04:31.000 Burning down a warehouse is more.

01:04:33.000 I can't say this out loud.

01:04:35.000 That sounds like a threat.

01:04:37.000 Burning down a warehouse is more effective than what?

01:04:39.000 This guy said, burning down a warehouse is more effective than a No Kings protest.

01:04:42.000 It hurt their pocket.

01:04:42.000 Why?

01:04:44.000 That's how you get their attention.

01:04:45.000 Yes.

01:04:46.000 And the 200 plus individuals who worked there making 25 bucks an hour are now out of jobs.

01:04:52.000 And the cafes and the restaurants that they used to go to are now losing their customer base.

01:04:57.000 And the apartment buildings they rented from now no longer have tenants who are paying.

01:05:01.000 So they're going to fall apart. 0.98

01:05:03.000 These people are dangerous psychopaths.

01:05:06.000 I think that, like, if you're bringing back the, what was the bill from the 50s? 0.93

01:05:13.000 The communism bill or whatever?

01:05:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:15.000 What was that?

01:05:16.000 Let me pull that one up.

01:05:17.000 The McCarthyism bill.

01:05:21.000 Phil would know.

01:05:22.000 Shout out to Phil Labonte.

01:05:24.000 Phil would be all over the place right now.

01:05:25.000 We got a shot of Phil's face behind tape.

01:05:29.000 That was like the first time he came on the show.

01:05:30.000 Let's see.

01:05:31.000 It was the Communist Control Act of 1954.

01:05:35.000 Yep.

01:05:36.000 You think we need to bring it back?

01:05:36.000 What about it?

01:05:37.000 Was it repealed or something?

01:05:38.000 I'm half kidding.

01:05:39.000 It's still in effect.

01:05:40.000 Technically, communists are not protected under human rights law in the United States.

01:05:44.000 Is there any instances of state run housing really working?

01:05:47.000 No.

01:05:49.000 And it goes back to the formation of Project Housing Pruitt IGO, which failed miserably.

01:05:53.000 And my favorite is the LeClair courts in Chicago, where I grew up, and they bulldozed them. 0.98

01:05:59.000 They told all of the gangbangers and the black folk who live there we're going to temporarily relocate you so that we can renovate these properties. 0.89

01:06:08.000 Everybody was forced to leave, and then they brought in bulldozers, smashed them all, and now they are green.

01:06:14.000 They're just empty fields surrounded by chain link fences.

01:06:17.000 The argument I always hear is, or that I used to even make, is housing should not be a for profit industry.

01:06:22.000 But if it's not, then why would the people that oversee the housing do any, lift a finger if they're not making anything out of it?

01:06:28.000 It's not a for profit industry.

01:06:29.000 Yeah, it's just government run.

01:06:31.000 So the problem with communists is they say abolish profit, they lie. 1.00

01:06:37.000 They are really, really dumb. 1.00

01:06:39.000 And the ones that are running the big accounts with big followers, they're lying because they know what they're doing. 1.00

01:06:44.000 Profit means if I buy a rake for $30, that's my cost.

01:06:50.000 If I then knock on my neighbor's door and say, I will rake your leaves with this rake that I bought, and he says, Yes, I'll give you $20.

01:06:57.000 My cost is $30.

01:06:59.000 My revenue is $20.

01:07:00.000 I have made no profit.

01:07:02.000 However, I then mow one more lawn.

01:07:05.000 He pays me $20.

01:07:06.000 I've now covered the cost of the rake and I've profited $10.

01:07:10.000 That $10 profit.

01:07:12.000 Is a it's part of a for profit business venture.

01:07:15.000 You know what I can do with that?

01:07:16.000 I can buy food, I can save up, pay rent, buy a car, get a leaf blower, and expand my business.

01:07:22.000 And the left goes around with signs saying abolish profit.

01:07:26.000 Meaning, you do work and you get nothing.

01:07:30.000 Some industries, I don't think the medical industry, for instance, should necessarily be for profit.

01:07:35.000 I don't like that.

01:07:36.000 You do?

01:07:36.000 I don't like that people are encouraged to experiment medically on other humans.

01:07:41.000 How else are you going to treat diseases?

01:07:42.000 It's a good question.

01:07:43.000 How do you incite people to go work on it without some sort of fiscal return?

01:07:47.000 Again, profit doesn't mean stealing.

01:07:49.000 It means if I provide you a service at a rate for which you agree, you will pay me and I will use that excess money towards.

01:07:57.000 My life or more things.

01:07:58.000 The issue is that in massive economies of massive scale, profit can be in the billions.

01:08:04.000 That's just it.

01:08:06.000 The funny thing is, these lefties are like, we're not talking about profit on a birdhouse or raking someone's arm.

01:08:12.000 We're talking about massive corporate profits in the billions of dollars, which are paid out in dividends to their shareholders.

01:08:17.000 And guess how much the shareholder gets?

01:08:18.000 I've got stocks in some companies.

01:08:19.000 My dividends are like $7.

01:08:22.000 They don't understand when a company's got like a $10 billion profit at the end of the year, the shareholders are getting like a couple hundred bucks, if that.

01:08:30.000 And it's largely retirees and mutual funds for pension accounts and pensions and things like that.

01:08:34.000 Yeah.

01:08:35.000 You know, the irony too of a lot of these activists, I call them more than communists, is at least the ones in Portland, a majority of them live at their parents' house.

01:08:44.000 And their parents are oftentimes upper middle class to pretty wealthy because they have time to protest because they're taken care of.

01:08:54.000 And so that is the silly irony of all of this a lot of them have family wealth.

01:09:01.000 I think Karl Marx was wealthy growing up.

01:09:03.000 He was.

01:09:04.000 That's crazy.

01:09:05.000 You know, they show up in nice cars.

01:09:09.000 They may not own their own house, but they live in the house.

01:09:11.000 They are taken care of.

01:09:13.000 They went to private schools usually.

01:09:15.000 I mean, these people were raised and had very much privileged lives.

01:09:20.000 And that's kind of infuriating, you know, for what they're against.

01:09:25.000 Yet it's what, you know, they had opportunities most people would never have.

01:09:30.000 It's weird how, like, all the socialist dictators or most of them were like, Educated in the West too, and they go back to their country.

01:09:36.000 That's why I'm saying they're liars.

01:09:37.000 They know what they're doing.

01:09:39.000 Listen, the money is in being a liberal, it always has been.

01:09:44.000 Being outside of the institutions was never a way to make money.

01:09:47.000 And the left would say, These people are grifters. 0.96

01:09:50.000 Tim Pool's a grifter. 0.96

01:09:51.000 It's like, Bro, I worked for ABC. 0.78

01:09:53.000 Okay.

01:09:54.000 My path towards making money was not calling them liars and defending Donald Trump.

01:09:58.000 It was telling my agent and the company that wrote me a check for 200 grand to sign on day one, they slid a check across the table for $200,000, was just be like, Tell me what to say, and I'll say it.

01:10:08.000 I'm game.

01:10:09.000 YouTube, the partner program on Google, when you guys, whoever's listening, bought YouTube, this changed everything because it was a total leftist dominated profit game until you enabled individuals to create an empire.

01:10:23.000 It's always been.

01:10:24.000 It allowed a path away from the entertainment industry for me, and it allowed a lot of people out of that playing for the machine.

01:10:31.000 And there's still a machine involved, I understand, but it's been 12 years, 15 years.

01:10:35.000 The money right now in the space is in being anti Trump.

01:10:38.000 That's why we're seeing prominent conservative personalities go anti Trump.

01:10:44.000 Look at the TPOSA event with JD Vance.

01:10:46.000 You guys saw this the other day?

01:10:47.000 Yeah.

01:10:47.000 Empty.

01:10:49.000 Let's talk about this.

01:10:49.000 Let me pull this one up.

01:10:51.000 Yeah, yeah, I heard about this.

01:10:53.000 It was empty.

01:10:56.000 Let's, here we go.

01:11:00.000 Here's News Nation.

01:11:01.000 They say TPUSA official blames small Vance crowd on ticket shenanigans.

01:11:06.000 Really?

01:11:07.000 The half crowd that Vance drew at the Turning Point USA event this week in Georgia is attributable to a left wing activist who sought to sabotage attendance.

01:11:15.000 Vance appeared Tuesday, blah, blah, blah.

01:11:18.000 Appearing Wednesday, Colvett said the arena where Vance appeared at a capacity of 4,000 and that they purposely gave away 10,000 free tickets to fill the site.

01:11:26.000 He said critics on the other end of the political spectrum had other ideas.

01:11:29.000 It turns out there were shenanigans of the ticketing system.

01:11:32.000 Left wing groups tried to gobble up the tickets.

01:11:34.000 We still had over 2,000 people, mostly students, which is a massive college event.

01:11:38.000 My understanding was it was a stadium with 20,000 seats or 25,000 seats.

01:11:43.000 Do they not have the photo here?

01:11:44.000 Let's see if we can get this video going.

01:11:47.000 Let me try and pull up the photo.

01:11:48.000 Hey, JD, if you're listening, I'm going to beat you in magic one day.

01:11:51.000 They spoke to kind of for selling.

01:11:53.000 I've got their fans.

01:11:54.000 I don't really care to hear the arguments.

01:11:55.000 Let's pull up the pictures.

01:11:57.000 So you can see it was empty.

01:12:00.000 Rows of empty seats.

01:12:01.000 So the opposing political faction bought up a bunch of the seats.

01:12:05.000 Well, I don't believe it.

01:12:06.000 Here you go.

01:12:07.000 This is from AOL with the mirror.

01:12:09.000 JD Vance humiliated once again after he speaks in an empty stadium.

01:12:13.000 So here's one photo.

01:12:14.000 Do they have others?

01:12:16.000 There's one photo.

01:12:17.000 I can try and find some more.

01:12:18.000 But it was empty.

01:12:19.000 It really was.

01:12:20.000 A lot of people were claiming.

01:12:22.000 We got more photos here.

01:12:22.000 Let's see.

01:12:23.000 Actually, let me just do this.

01:12:24.000 I'll just pull in every single photo.

01:12:26.000 You can see here.

01:12:28.000 Sparsely, like, listen.

01:12:30.000 If he's saying it seats 4,000, that's 2,000 people, bro, that's 15, 20% of seats filled.

01:12:38.000 The reality is that right now, this space is tired.

01:12:42.000 I mean, this is what happens.

01:12:44.000 I can't say that I'm surprised.

01:12:46.000 This happens every political cycle, right?

01:12:49.000 We're about to get back into politics.

01:12:51.000 The weather just got nice.

01:12:52.000 A lot of people would rather just go out, hang out, play video games, not really think about politics.

01:12:58.000 We're moving into the midterms, and things are already starting to pick back up.

01:13:01.000 And then, of course, we're going to get into a primary season.

01:13:04.000 So you get three years on, one year off.

01:13:06.000 Technically, the way it works is after a presidential election, you still have this period where everyone's watching to see what happens and then it starts to go down.

01:13:12.000 And now we're in the lull before it kicks back up around November when they're going to spend billions on the midterms.

01:13:18.000 Then, when you get in the primary season, holy crap, we got a double primary.

01:13:22.000 We no longer have any incumbents that are running.

01:13:23.000 Donald Trump's not going to be running again, which means you're going to have a Republican and Democrat primary.

01:13:27.000 The first time, I think, in 10 years, right?

01:13:30.000 Yeah, 2016.

01:13:30.000 Because technically, you did have one with 2024, but it was Trump.

01:13:35.000 It was like he just rammed through everybody.

01:13:36.000 He bowed out instantly when he got 1%.

01:13:39.000 2020 was Trump versus Democrat primary.

01:13:41.000 2024 was no primaries.

01:13:43.000 It was Kamala Harris and Trump guaranteed. 0.90

01:13:46.000 We're getting the first presidential primary in a long time, and they're going to dump billions into this.

01:13:51.000 So, right now, if you're in the podcast space and you're trying to get views, anti Trump's the only way to go.

01:13:57.000 Trump's coalition is largely fractured, but more importantly, for the regular person, we won.

01:14:04.000 We voted in Trump.

01:14:05.000 We got the Republicans in Congress and the Senate.

01:14:07.000 We got the Supreme Court and the presidency.

01:14:09.000 They're not paying attention anymore.

01:14:10.000 They're done with it.

01:14:12.000 On the other side, you still have the resistance.

01:14:15.000 So, for these conservatives, many of them have started seeing their viewership decline.

01:14:20.000 Well, when they criticized Trump over the Iran war, they got a good amount of views.

01:14:25.000 So now they're maintaining that.

01:14:26.000 For Candace, it's a really, really obvious thing.

01:14:28.000 She was talking about Blake Lively.

01:14:30.000 I guess women care about that. 0.99

01:14:32.000 Then she did the Brigitte Macron as a penis, shot content. 1.00

01:14:36.000 Then the Charlie Kirk conspiracy, which turns into a turning point is bad. 0.99

01:14:40.000 Which turns into Erica is bad, which turns into Israel is bad, which turns into Trump is bad.

01:14:44.000 Do you think we get more views if we did Trump is bad or clavicular is Chad?

01:14:49.000 You get zero views on clavicular.

01:14:50.000 You don't think clav would get you.

01:14:51.000 That's all fake stuff.

01:14:53.000 That's all trauma content, is what I'm wondering. 1.00

01:14:55.000 The clavicular people intentionally do insane things to try and get attention from the media. 0.99

01:14:55.000 Anything about that. 0.99

01:15:01.000 If we did a video where we, like, if I legitimately was like, I can't believe Trump did this, oh my God, Israel is making him do it, our viewership would be 10x.

01:15:09.000 Yeah.

01:15:10.000 I don't know.

01:15:11.000 That's all.

01:15:11.000 I mean, because people are participating in the same incentive structure that's been set up for 10 years.

01:15:15.000 It's like the left has sort of set it up where you, again, it's favorable to criticize Trump, it's incentivized to criticize Trump.

01:15:22.000 Now, I'm not discounting that there's legitimate.

01:15:24.000 You know, vectors on Trump, right?

01:15:25.000 I'm not denying that there's legitimate criticisms to make.

01:15:28.000 I'm just simply saying threatening, or I should rather say, criticizing Trump, attacking Trump, saying Trump betrayed us, Trump is, you know, the worst thing since, you know, ever or whatever.

01:15:37.000 That's not really threatening to the left in any real way.

01:15:39.000 If anything, the left's like, yeah, I know, we've been saying that.

01:15:41.000 So you're not going to, it's a, you cast a super wide net.

01:15:44.000 And proof is like, you'll see all these, these pieces from liberal mainstream outlets that are like, see, look at all these conservatives that have turned on Trump.

01:15:53.000 And they never say, they never call these guys racist or they never use the type of language they always couched in when they're criticizing conservatives.

01:15:59.000 They're just like, Finally, they finally kind of come around.

01:16:01.000 Maybe they're not so bad.

01:16:02.000 Take a look at this from The Nation.

01:16:04.000 Tucker Carlson is not your anti war ally. 0.92

01:16:06.000 Liberals are delighted by the Megatitans' opposition to the Iran war. 0.68

01:16:10.000 All they're doing is boosting the credibility of an unrepentant, pathologically dishonest, bad faith bigot. 0.83

01:16:15.000 The reason why The Nation had to write this, The Nation, of course, being a prominent leftist publication, is because liberals are celebrating Tucker Carlson like crazy. 0.57

01:16:23.000 He has become staunchly anti Trump.

01:16:25.000 Trump has slammed him.

01:16:27.000 He is anti Israel.

01:16:28.000 He is aligned completely.

01:16:30.000 On at least the top surface issues with the left. 0.94

01:16:33.000 Candace, as well, calling Trump a mad king who should be removed.

01:16:37.000 The left is not motivated, for the most part, by granular issues.

01:16:42.000 If you go to a leftist and say, I'm not in favor of abortion, they're going to say, Well, what do you mean by that?

01:16:50.000 They'll have a minor dispute.

01:16:52.000 If you say you oppose trans people, you're out.

01:16:55.000 There are issues that they are attached to.

01:16:57.000 Right now, it's anti Israel and principally anti Trump.

01:17:01.000 So, if you are anti Trump, you are aligned with their core issue.

01:17:05.000 You are going to get more views.

01:17:06.000 You are going to get more followers. 1.00

01:17:08.000 And now, suburban liberal women are the biggest fans of Candace Owens of all people. 1.00

01:17:13.000 So, they're all recognizing this and I think intentionally playing this game. 0.83

01:17:17.000 Yeah.

01:17:18.000 I remember vividly in the 2024 primary for the Republicans or the lack thereof, when they would have these debates where Trump wasn't there. 0.92

01:17:26.000 So, it was basically just like two hours of them getting up and be like, Trump's such a coward. 0.96

01:17:30.000 He's not showing up. 0.98

01:17:30.000 Like, what's the deal with that? 0.98

01:17:31.000 You know, this guy's gay. 1.00

01:17:33.000 And like, you would literally have like liberal, if borderline leftist, like media people come out and they'd like play clips from the debate and be like, see, we told you, yeah, Trump is a coward. 0.99

01:17:44.000 That's what we've been saying.

01:17:45.000 They were literally clipping the Republican debates and were like agreeing with them.

01:17:48.000 The best example is on X when they said Trump got booed at UFC.

01:17:52.000 Completely fabricated.

01:17:52.000 Oh, I didn't know.

01:17:53.000 He didn't get booed.

01:17:54.000 He did not get booed.

01:17:55.000 So you don't think Tucker is maybe sincere in his beliefs and they just happen to change?

01:18:00.000 I think he is sincere, but I don't know what changed him.

01:18:03.000 But I respect that.

01:18:04.000 Everyone has a right to have their own belief system.

01:18:07.000 And if he truly doesn't care about the views, we hope, and that he simply has changed his mind.

01:18:15.000 And doesn't very quickly, I might add, like, but it's certainly odd behavior.

01:18:20.000 And I'm wondering if it's for the views or this is a sincere belief system of his.

01:18:25.000 That's what I'd like to know.

01:18:26.000 I don't think Tucker does it for the views, he doesn't need to, and he certainly doesn't do it for the money.

01:18:30.000 He doesn't need to.

01:18:31.000 I think his views have shifted dramatically and very quickly, which is possible.

01:18:38.000 For the most part, what I can say of Tucker is that he's a guy with opinions, and that was always allowed.

01:18:44.000 Tucker comes out and he says things.

01:18:46.000 He said, Muslim, he recently said, Muslims love Jesus.

01:18:49.000 Yeah.

01:18:49.000 Was that his thing?

01:18:50.000 And people are asking if he's actually a Muslim right now.

01:18:52.000 I'm like, I don't know.

01:18:53.000 I'm not a Christian either.

01:18:54.000 I'm not going to go after him on faith or whatever.

01:18:57.000 Tucker has, in my view, been largely professional in how he's approached all of this.

01:19:01.000 He does a show, he explains his opinion.

01:19:04.000 What are you going to say?

01:19:05.000 I can rag on Hassan Piker for being wrong all the time.

01:19:07.000 He's a guy who does a show, he's got bad opinions.

01:19:09.000 Tucker Carlson's a guy who does a show.

01:19:11.000 I disagree with him on a bit less than I disagree with Hassan on basically everything.

01:19:16.000 I disagree with Tucker on some things. 1.00

01:19:18.000 Now, Candace, on the other hand, is Grifter all the way down. 0.97

01:19:21.000 I mean, that's just fake garbled nonsense.

01:19:23.000 That being said, I think it's fair to point out Tucker Carlson's opinion changed 180 in the span of less than a year.

01:19:30.000 Like, really.

01:19:31.000 What was the catalyst?

01:19:32.000 What was that moment he changed?

01:19:34.000 I would love to ask him that question.

01:19:35.000 I'm just thinking that same thing.

01:19:36.000 It wasn't October 7th.

01:19:37.000 It was to have that such a fundamental change, something happened. 0.55

01:19:40.000 Maybe it was the way the Israeli government was guiding the American military through bombing Iran and attacking Iran.

01:19:46.000 Who's the comedian who went to Qatar and then came back and then started praising Qatar?

01:19:50.000 Theo Vaughn?

01:19:51.000 He praised them and then went there.

01:19:53.000 Okay.

01:19:55.000 Actually, it's probably like 15 different people, I guess.

01:19:57.000 Yeah.

01:19:57.000 The story with Theo Vaughn, as I was told, was that on his show, He was praising Qatar and then he said that he thinks Israel's committing a genocide and then went to Qatar and did like a bunch of PR stuff with them.

01:20:09.000 It's crazy because I've been to Qatar.

01:20:11.000 I say Qatar because I'm an American.

01:20:13.000 So I don't use the Korean pronunciation.

01:20:15.000 Same.

01:20:16.000 But I've been to Qatar and it's not a very like terribly impressive country.

01:20:19.000 I mean, it's nice.

01:20:20.000 It's clean, I guess.

01:20:21.000 Like it's very terribly.

01:20:22.000 It's like Rhode Island, isn't it?

01:20:23.000 It's just an oil port or something.

01:20:24.000 It's literally just like a desert city.

01:20:25.000 I'm like, I don't want to live here.

01:20:27.000 This would be horrible.

01:20:29.000 It's like nice, I suppose, but it's just really not like a terribly impressive place.

01:20:33.000 I think geopolitically, like their strategy is just like.

01:20:36.000 Again, up until the Iran war, so they got bombed.

01:20:38.000 I mean, they were kind of in the same way they'd play both sides and try to be a mediator between the Shia and Sunni world. 0.97

01:20:42.000 Like, everything about them was just kind of like unimpressive. 1.00

01:20:44.000 So, the glazing people sort of put on out of nowhere.

01:20:48.000 Do they have like unlimited amounts of money or something?

01:20:50.000 Yeah.

01:20:50.000 The Qatari government?

01:20:51.000 Oil and natural gas.

01:20:52.000 Well, now they're dead.

01:20:53.000 Like, they're broke.

01:20:53.000 Yeah, they're out of nowhere.

01:20:54.000 But with Iran striking the natural gas field, they're producing nothing. 0.76

01:20:57.000 Like, literally a dribble. 0.86

01:20:59.000 And they're like a military on the sea there, right? 0.92

01:21:04.000 They're basically protecting the other side that Iran is. 0.95

01:21:04.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:21:07.000 Well, Qatar is dependent on the Strait of Hormuz to export.

01:21:11.000 So, I mean, they have overland routes through Saudi Arabia, which they could utilize as well.

01:21:16.000 But Saudis and the Qataris don't get along up until like this year.

01:21:20.000 Bro, let's talk about this story.

01:21:22.000 We got a lot in the war stuff.

01:21:23.000 This is crazy.

01:21:24.000 Europe has maybe six weeks of jet fuel left.

01:21:29.000 Yo, the nuclear bomb in the global economy that is coming if this happens, if the Strait of Hormuz remains closed for six more weeks.

01:21:41.000 May God have mercy on your soul.

01:21:41.000 Yeah.

01:21:43.000 I mean, have you seen Australia is almost out of diesel, like completely?

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:46.000 And Australia is one of the largest mineral exporters in the world.

01:21:49.000 I think it's on purpose.

01:21:51.000 I was talking about this this morning.

01:21:52.000 I think Trump just put a knife into the New World Order.

01:21:56.000 Do you guys know what the New World Order is?

01:21:58.000 I have an idea.

01:22:00.000 Let me pull it up for you.

01:22:03.000 I played it this morning.

01:22:04.000 Like the old one.

01:22:05.000 But no, no, it's fresh.

01:22:08.000 It is hotter, cleaner.

01:22:09.000 The liberal economic order was created in the 50s, and George H.W. Bush. Explained a new world order.

01:22:16.000 Here we go.

01:22:18.000 Is that going to hit?

01:22:20.000 Loading, it seems.

01:22:22.000 Could be an ad.

01:22:22.000 We don't know.

01:22:23.000 No waiting.

01:22:24.000 All right, let's try refreshing it so we can get it to play, actually.

01:22:26.000 Hey, partnership.

01:22:28.000 Oh, I love this guy, dude.

01:22:31.000 This guy was so cheap in the 9 11, 1992.

01:22:34.000 A new partnership of nations has begun.

01:22:37.000 And we stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment.

01:22:41.000 The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation.

01:22:52.000 Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective a new world order can emerge, a new era, freer from the threat of terror, stronger.

01:23:05.000 In the pursuit of justice and more secure in the quest for peace.

01:23:12.000 An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony.

01:23:21.000 A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor.

01:23:30.000 So, what he's describing we had the liberal economic order which was created by the United States after World War II, however, the Soviet Union still existed.

01:23:38.000 So, the United States was setting up things like the IMF, the Swift payment system, all of these things.

01:23:42.000 Well, Swift came a while later.

01:23:44.000 The general idea was we will go to countries and offer them money.

01:23:48.000 We'll develop your nation.

01:23:49.000 You work for us. 0.71

01:23:50.000 The Soviet unions were doing kind of the opposite.

01:23:52.000 Hey, have a revolution, be communists, and we'll take over.

01:23:55.000 The U.S. and the Soviets fought, and around this point, a new world order was coming into fruition one where East and West could come together. 0.76

01:24:04.000 I believe, just on the surface, and I'm probably wrong, but When you put these pieces together, this is the point at which the US had cut a deal with China. 0.80

01:24:12.000 It was going to begin working with these communist countries to send our jobs and create these trade lines. 0.63

01:24:17.000 China would now be a new economic hub for the world.

01:24:21.000 I believe that Donald Trump's intention is to burn this to the ground, and I think he's doing it right now.

01:24:25.000 He's building a new, new world order.

01:24:27.000 It's the Trump world order.

01:24:28.000 It is a new, new world order.

01:24:31.000 Think about what happens in six weeks. 0.92

01:24:35.000 China gets 50% of its energy from the Gulf.

01:24:39.000 They're going to collapse.

01:24:39.000 50%.

01:24:42.000 The estimates are four months of reserves left.

01:24:44.000 Europe has six weeks of jet fuel.

01:24:46.000 Australia is almost out of diesel.

01:24:48.000 Trump knows the United States is sufficient on oil.

01:24:53.000 In fact, for the first time since World War II, we are set to be a net crude exporter.

01:24:59.000 Bro, this is on purpose.

01:25:01.000 The seizure of Venezuela and then the shutting down of global energy destroys everyone else and leaves us standing.

01:25:10.000 With the AI, I think you're right, dude.

01:25:14.000 I think he actually undermined the undermine.

01:25:17.000 He undermined the undermine.

01:25:18.000 He undermined the undermine.

01:25:19.000 The United States to be the most powerful force on the planet.

01:25:21.000 This is why the deep state tried to stop him.

01:25:25.000 When Trump first got in his first term, you had the Western elites of the New World Order, of the liberal economic order, saying, This is the game we are playing Russia's bad, China good.

01:25:37.000 Michael Flynn said, Russia good, China bad.

01:25:40.000 So they tried putting him in prison.

01:25:42.000 They tried impeaching Trump.

01:25:43.000 I think Biden may have been their last vestige, their last attempt, just crawling miserably, unable to get any power back.

01:25:52.000 I think Donald Trump came in.

01:25:54.000 Well, it's certainly not over.

01:25:55.000 We are absolutely seeing still, you know, the first order, the remnants of the empire.

01:26:01.000 Donald Trump is about to.

01:26:05.000 He's economically nuking China, Europe, Australia.

01:26:08.000 The three principal beneficiaries of this war Saudi Aramco, Gazprom, and ExxonMobil.

01:26:14.000 Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the United States.

01:26:16.000 I think Trump's play was he's been negotiating with Russia.

01:26:19.000 He's been working with the Saudis.

01:26:21.000 I think he went to these countries and said, Why should we bend the knee to anyone else when we are the energy producers of the world?

01:26:28.000 And they said, Agreed.

01:26:30.000 Russia said, Agreed. 0.99

01:26:32.000 Venezuela said, Screw you. 1.00

01:26:34.000 Iran said, Screw you. 1.00

01:26:36.000 So Trump. 0.90

01:26:37.000 Shut down the two other largest energy producers and the rest are profiting gangbusters.

01:26:43.000 I think it's on purpose.

01:26:44.000 Let me pull this up from MediaIte.

01:26:45.000 We'll throw this in the mix.

01:26:47.000 What the F are we doing?

01:26:48.000 Joe Rogan goes off on Trump's war.

01:26:51.000 I can only say that Joe must not watch Tim Cass Dyerell anymore because we explained it several times.

01:26:56.000 He says all of it is terrifying.

01:26:58.000 Anytime you're involved, you know, and Israel's blowing up Lebanon now, it's like, what the F are we doing?

01:27:04.000 Like, how is this still going on? 0.53

01:27:06.000 David Cross added, Well, it's also clear there was no plan.

01:27:09.000 Zero, none.

01:27:11.000 I just, my mind is blown by this.

01:27:13.000 Joe, brother, I hope you hear this.

01:27:15.000 I probably just text him.

01:27:17.000 Do you genuinely believe David is correct on this?

01:27:21.000 They did not have a plan.

01:27:22.000 No, he just doesn't know what the plan was.

01:27:24.000 Exactly.

01:27:25.000 And when they don't understand what's happening, they're saying this is wrong, what's going on. 1.00

01:27:30.000 One of the most frustrating things, and I will pause real quick and say Trump can be the dumbest guy on the planet. 0.99

01:27:35.000 I don't care if you like him or don't like him. 0.99

01:27:36.000 There's an administration, intelligence agencies, and The Saudis, the Russians, there's many other players involved in this. 0.98

01:27:45.000 I said this every night, but strip out all of the bloviating. 0.79

01:27:49.000 The U.S. took Venezuela, sanctioned and shut down Cuba on the verge of collapse, killed the top 50 government officials in Iran, and cut off access to Chinese energy. 0.96

01:27:59.000 Whatever you want to say about no plan, looks like they had one.

01:28:03.000 But David Cross doesn't know what he's talking about.

01:28:06.000 And it appears that Joe isn't deeply well versed on what's going on.

01:28:10.000 I think the issue is.

01:28:11.000 Who Joe is surrounding himself with recently are a lot of people that view this very surface level and don't try to look at the bigger picture.

01:28:19.000 I know many of these guys that Joe surrounds himself with are smart and have been tracking foreign policy in the Middle East for decades.

01:28:26.000 So, how can they not just be like, well, that's interesting?

01:28:29.000 China just lost half their energy.

01:28:31.000 Europe's about to lose their.

01:28:34.000 When they run out of jet fuel, their military is in trouble.

01:28:39.000 Their commerce is over.

01:28:40.000 No more flights between European nations.

01:28:43.000 Shut down when they run out of fuel, it's going to be a catastrophe.

01:28:46.000 And the U.S. is energy independent.

01:28:49.000 And Trump has been saying he wants to get out of NATO.

01:28:52.000 I'll tell you this Trump tells NATO, We've been paying for your military.

01:28:56.000 We want to land our planes at your air bases.

01:28:58.000 And they said, No.

01:28:59.000 Okay.

01:29:00.000 What do you think comes next?

01:29:01.000 Trump says, Choke them out.

01:29:03.000 No more energy.

01:29:04.000 We'll keep the Strait of Hormuz closed however we have to.

01:29:06.000 Now, they're going back and forth saying it's open to closed.

01:29:08.000 I don't know what the grand play is.

01:29:10.000 Maybe the last minute he opens it up and a desperate and panicked Europe goes, Oh, thank God.

01:29:15.000 I'm so sorry, Trump.

01:29:16.000 Well, I'll never wrong you again.

01:29:18.000 Australia, China.

01:29:20.000 Trump could go to these people and say, I don't have to nuke you. 0.92

01:29:24.000 I'll just shut down the Strait of Hormuz and choke you out.

01:29:26.000 I can do that anytime I want. 0.92

01:29:28.000 And you know what?

01:29:30.000 There's nothing you can do about it.

01:29:31.000 I think what terrifies people is if this is indeed a plan and not, say, impulsive, he hasn't really explained himself.

01:29:40.000 Why would he?

01:29:41.000 But that is, I think, what a lot of the American public, they're nervous. 0.92

01:29:45.000 They don't know what's going on and they see him as a madman.

01:29:48.000 Maybe there is a brilliant design, a brilliant plan behind all of it, but why isn't he explaining himself?

01:29:55.000 That, I think, is the concern of a lot of the.

01:29:56.000 Well, but why would he?

01:29:59.000 Did Barack Obama come out and explain why he sent troops into Syria when.

01:29:59.000 I think.

01:30:04.000 It's true that presidents don't do that, but maybe if they explain themselves, maybe then they can't get the job done either.

01:30:04.000 Well,.

01:30:11.000 That's exactly the point.

01:30:12.000 I think you hit the nail on the head with a hammer.

01:30:14.000 If Trump came out and said to the American people, my goal is to strangle China, the EU, all of our debt holders, we will remain, he's declaring war on them.

01:30:24.000 If Trump came out and said, we're intentionally cutting China off from half of their energy, China would respond with, that's a declaration of war.

01:30:30.000 This just comes down to trust, then, right?

01:30:32.000 And the thing is, if you support Trump, you trust that he's doing the right thing.

01:30:36.000 If you don't, you don't trust him.

01:30:38.000 Nope.

01:30:39.000 Completely disagree.

01:30:40.000 This is my point with pulling up Google Earth every night and explaining this.

01:30:44.000 You don't have to trust Trump. 1.00

01:30:45.000 In fact, you can call him the dumbest man on the planet. 1.00

01:30:47.000 Don't care. 1.00

01:30:48.000 He can be sitting in a rocking chair for all I care.

01:30:50.000 What matters is the facts.

01:30:52.000 Venezuela under our control.

01:30:54.000 Cuba sanctioned shutdown.

01:30:56.000 Government collapsing.

01:30:57.000 Strait of Hormuz disrupted.

01:30:59.000 Europe struggling.

01:31:00.000 China struggling.

01:31:01.000 Our debt holders are now struggling to get energy.

01:31:04.000 Iran's government toppled.

01:31:06.000 Whatever you think about Trump, whether you like him, trust him or not, these things did happen and they have an outcome.

01:31:12.000 And that outcome is going to be the adversaries and debt holders of the United States are going to be left destitute.

01:31:18.000 I think this deep state that's been planning this, you know, liberal economic coup, this new world order since the 80s that George Bush Sr. was talking about, they do make mistakes.

01:31:26.000 They have been known to make mistakes.

01:31:27.000 They put the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran in the late 70s.

01:31:30.000 That was a mistake.

01:31:31.000 They did not intend for that to get out of hand, according to Scott Horton, if you read into it.

01:31:34.000 They kind of were like, oops.

01:31:35.000 But that doesn't mean that they don't also still have a plan.

01:31:38.000 I think it was Wesley Clark outlined seven countries and five years ago.

01:31:42.000 But that was the new world order.

01:31:44.000 Trump is doing something different.

01:31:45.000 Possible they just are agilely, you know, changing quickly, you know, with AI, especially the way things have changed in seven years from what we thought 30 years ago the world was going to look like.

01:31:55.000 Call it an accident, and you can look at it one of two ways.

01:31:59.000 Trump is impulsive, invaded Venezuela on a whim for no reason, surrounded Cuba with warships and sanctioned them, destroying their government randomly because he was bored, killed the top leadership of Iran because he was angry, and cut off China from their key energy point accidentally, didn't even realize it was going to happen.

01:32:17.000 And you're talking about a guy.

01:32:19.000 Who slipped on a series of banana peels over and over and over again and did a perfect gymnastic floor routine?

01:32:25.000 I just don't care.

01:32:26.000 I don't believe it.

01:32:27.000 There's other people involved with the planning.

01:32:29.000 Trump's the funny guy up front, but these other people have had this plan.

01:32:32.000 That's my point.

01:32:33.000 People are like, you think Trump did this?

01:32:35.000 I'm like, nah, Hagseth probably.

01:32:37.000 Like George W. Sr. literally said the Persian Gulf.

01:32:39.000 I mean, it's the same situation.

01:32:40.000 It's been going on for 30 years. 0.93

01:32:42.000 Because Iran's been on the menu for a very long time. 0.99

01:32:44.000 Yes, but I think that's true.

01:32:48.000 I think with Trump threatening NATO repeatedly, I think Trump's pissed about the state of Europe.

01:32:54.000 The flooding of mass migration, Hungary now voting for this WEF aligned guy, and Orban's out.

01:33:04.000 The culture war was happening in the West, in the United States, and in Europe.

01:33:08.000 And in Europe, they did everything to stop the right populists from winning.

01:33:12.000 But in the United States, Trump won, and he continues to have victories.

01:33:16.000 Again, say you don't like what he's doing.

01:33:17.000 Oh, that's fine.

01:33:18.000 I'm saying in 2024, he won the House, the Senate, the presidency.

01:33:21.000 Now, Congress is dysfunctional, and the courts are holding him back.

01:33:24.000 But the one thing they can't stop is Trump making moves international like this.

01:33:27.000 You're not going to get a judge to be like, Mr. President, you can't send warships to Iran.

01:33:31.000 Too late.

01:33:31.000 He'll be like, nice try.

01:33:33.000 None of these guys, unless you want to stage a coup, you're not stopping his foreign policy actions.

01:33:38.000 He threatens NATO with pulling out.

01:33:40.000 And now Europe is on the verge of running out of jet fuel.

01:33:43.000 Understand what happens if they run out of jet fuel.

01:33:45.000 This means their fighters are not going to be capable of fighting.

01:33:49.000 It means their commercial jets are going to be incapable of people being transported, which is going to knock out a massive portion of their economy.

01:33:56.000 It's.

01:33:56.000 Insane, what's going on?

01:33:58.000 I'd say hyperbolically, it can't happen.

01:34:00.000 I mean, it can, obviously, it can, but it won't because they're going to either attack, they're going to either join and attack Iran to get their oil back or they're going to attack the United States, which would be suicide.

01:34:10.000 They won't attack the US.

01:34:11.000 I think what happens is Trump's watching them boil and scream, and sooner or later, he's going to take his foot off, they're drowning right now, and he's going to take his foot off their head.

01:34:20.000 And he's going to be like, okay, you were saying we're negotiating now, right?

01:34:23.000 Trump goes to NATO and says, let us use your air bases.

01:34:26.000 They say no.

01:34:26.000 Trump's telling them they got to pay their GDP.

01:34:28.000 He did get them to pay more.

01:34:30.000 I think Trump's putting his foot on the heads of our adversaries.

01:34:33.000 He's going to let them squeal for a little bit.

01:34:35.000 Then China's going to pop their head back up.

01:34:36.000 He's going to say, Remember when you told Blinken that we were not negotiating from a position of strength?

01:34:42.000 How's this for strength?

01:34:44.000 You will agree to our terms or we cut you off again.

01:34:48.000 I think that's what's happening.

01:34:49.000 And it doesn't have to be Trump.

01:34:52.000 It could be the deep state.

01:34:53.000 It could be one big plan.

01:34:54.000 But I tell you, with Europe squealing, it looks like the New World Order, which involved China as well, I think it's been Trump slashed him in the back.

01:35:03.000 Yeah.

01:35:04.000 Well, I mean, I think it's been the sort of the prerogative of, again, the deep state.

01:35:10.000 We're just talking about a continued plan among the Intel community to box in China, to develop a posture against China that's been stated over and over again.

01:35:18.000 Even Tucker, where Tucker's dissenting, obviously he's dissenting and he's saying a lot of crazy things, I'd say, but he has maintained a specific line throughout this entire conflict.

01:35:26.000 As he said, look, this war with Iran is a proxy war with China.

01:35:30.000 He says that over and over and over again on the show.

01:35:32.000 This is a guy, again, that would, at least for everything it's worth, you would sort of trust him when it comes to intel.

01:35:38.000 I mean, he has CIA ties through his father and he's in that community.

01:35:42.000 Joe Kent's a buddy of his, et cetera, et cetera.

01:35:44.000 All I'm really saying is that whether or not Trump was the catalyst for that, whether he developed this plan right away, or if he's continuing on.

01:35:51.000 Sort of a plan that's been in the works for a while.

01:35:53.000 What is obvious that's happening here is we're building an anti China posture in the Middle East. 0.61

01:35:58.000 To Tim's point, obviously, you're, you know, putting, we're controlling energy, we're dominating energy right now. 0.51

01:36:04.000 In addition to that, you take Iran out, there's no regional partner left for China.

01:36:08.000 China's trying to build this entire Belt and Road Initiative so they're not dependent on the Strait of Malacca.

01:36:13.000 They want overland connections to Iran.

01:36:15.000 That's gone now.

01:36:16.000 We've just decimated their infrastructure.

01:36:18.000 And yeah, now you're starting to see pressure where, look, before October 7th, what we were heading towards was.

01:36:25.000 A power block in the Middle East, right?

01:36:26.000 You were going to have the Saudis on board, the Emiratis are on board, and the Israelis are on board. 0.96

01:36:30.000 So that was like almost complete, where Iran might not have even needed to happen. 0.89

01:36:34.000 Like that power block would have been put together anyway. 0.87

01:36:37.000 October 7th changes things. 0.96

01:36:38.000 So now it's like, okay, well, let's go after Iran. 0.99

01:36:40.000 At least that's the thinking. 0.89

01:36:41.000 You know, if you're thinking, okay, how do you build an anti China posture in the Middle East, that would be the actions that you take. 1.00

01:36:46.000 It makes total sense.

01:36:47.000 And say Trump, every decision he's making eventually makes the world into a better place.

01:36:52.000 The challenge we have now is once a hater, always a hater.

01:36:55.000 And even if everything's improved, there's going to be those people.

01:36:59.000 That will do everything they can once he's no longer president to reverse things.

01:37:04.000 Right?

01:37:04.000 It's kind of, I've always.

01:37:06.000 Unless he has a plan in place to split his administration in half so that a spoiler candidacy emerges in 2028 to take votes from the Democrats and then Marco Rubio wins.

01:37:16.000 Well, I've always been a believer in separating person from policy, which means this person might make you crazy, but let's look actually at the policy and keep a motion out of it.

01:37:25.000 In my world, which is mostly homelessness and addiction, I got a lot of hell because I publicly praised Trump for making executive decisions that did more to help the homeless and addiction.

01:37:39.000 Crisis in any president ever.

01:37:41.000 And I couldn't, I just had to say something about it.

01:37:44.000 And I knew I was going to get a lot of heck for it.

01:37:46.000 But when he announced fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, I was like, oh my God, thank you.

01:37:51.000 Finally, a president with the courage to say this.

01:37:54.000 When he did the ending crime and disorder, which basically is going to dismantle the housing first model and pivot to a recovery model because they're all addicts, I was like, that's incredible.

01:38:06.000 So, regardless of what a person personally thinks about Trump, at least when it comes into the homeless and addiction space, It's going to save thousands of lives.

01:38:15.000 And for that, I say thank you.

01:38:17.000 And I appreciate it.

01:38:20.000 I think, you know, if three months from now, this is over and the economy is doing better than ever, the US is set to be a net exporter of crude for the first time since World War II. 0.81

01:38:31.000 That's when our economy really exploded, the boomers, things were going so great. 0.87

01:38:36.000 If that happens, then in the months leading up to November, it's going to be Republican victories like people have never seen. 0.99

01:38:44.000 The general ballot's already tight.

01:38:46.000 I mean, the general ballot's tight.

01:38:47.000 It's a two point spread right now with crude trading at $95 a barrel.

01:38:52.000 So imagine if it drops down to $50.

01:38:54.000 Imagine if gas goes to $1.50.

01:38:56.000 Yeah, I mean, exactly.

01:38:57.000 You're talking about a red wave.

01:38:58.000 Trump will come out if gas ever did get down to $1.50, outside of COVID.

01:39:03.000 COVID is because there was too much oil.

01:39:05.000 But let's say it does drop down, prices go way down, rent is cheaper, the economy starts exploding.

01:39:10.000 Trump's going to say, you know, we went to war with Iran because they were blocking it.

01:39:17.000 They were causing these problems.

01:39:18.000 We stopped these people.

01:39:20.000 And now you can enjoy cheaper gas, cheaper energy.

01:39:23.000 You work less, you make more.

01:39:25.000 And that is because we stopped these evil people.

01:39:27.000 And everyone's going to clap.

01:39:28.000 Yeah.

01:39:29.000 The average American is going to be like, I can order three pizzas instead of one.

01:39:33.000 Thank you, Mr. President.

01:39:34.000 Like all these geopolitical gaming, like no one's going to really care.

01:39:34.000 Yeah.

01:39:37.000 Like they're going to care about their wallet, right?

01:39:38.000 They're going to care about what's their life better or worse from before or after Trump.

01:39:43.000 And they're going to say, well, yeah, gas is $1.50.

01:39:45.000 That's what they're going to remember when they're driving to the polls and they fill up on the way.

01:39:49.000 I do get.

01:39:51.000 I'm not irked at all by Joe Rogan's question when he says, I don't understand what we're doing, because I feel that frustration.

01:39:57.000 A lot of people have it.

01:39:58.000 I don't expect Joe to be the kind of guy like me that reads foreign policy nonstop and has for 20 years.

01:40:03.000 David Cross, however, is more of the issue I take.

01:40:07.000 The comedian, David Cross?

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 The liberal guy who says, It's clear there was no plan.

01:40:11.000 And it's just like David, I would describe in this context, I don't know him personally, and maybe he's a smart guy, but this comes off like lower ordered thinking. 1.00

01:40:20.000 The liberals who say Trump's an idiot, Elon Musk is an idiot. 1.00

01:40:24.000 Well, they may not be the smartest people ever, but they're certainly smart, smarter than you. 1.00

01:40:29.000 And then people say things like, I'd be rich, but I'm not interested in exploiting people.

01:40:36.000 Yeah, there's a lot of things you can do to make money without exploiting people.

01:40:39.000 So clearly, you're just not smart enough to do it.

01:40:42.000 That's it.

01:40:43.000 See, the issue is ego.

01:40:45.000 If you are poor and you say to yourself, I work as hard as I can to make as much as I can, I'm just not as smart as these guys, I guess, I respect it.

01:40:54.000 I don't think I'm nearly as smart as Donald Trump or Elon Musk.

01:40:57.000 Otherwise, I'd be a billionaire, wouldn't I?

01:40:59.000 I think I'm doing all right for myself.

01:41:02.000 I think, what were you saying the other day, Tate?

01:41:04.000 That there's a direct correlation between IQ and income?

01:41:07.000 Yeah.

01:41:08.000 There's tons of studies that show this.

01:41:10.000 So these communists and these lefties say things like there was no plan.

01:41:16.000 In what reality does the military industrial complex, which is not just Donald Trump, but includes Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, do they accidentally go into wars and not have a plan for it?

01:41:29.000 They have a series of plans.

01:41:30.000 They have contingency plans upon contingency plans.

01:41:32.000 And sometimes they might think of something in the heat of the moment.

01:41:35.000 Maybe they didn't consider blocking the strait until they had it.

01:41:38.000 And they were like, oh, we could actually just stop trash.

01:41:40.000 True, too.

01:41:41.000 So here's the thing, though.

01:41:42.000 With the Strait of Hormuz, Trump comes out and says, we got the strait open, let's go.

01:41:47.000 And then everyone said, what?

01:41:48.000 It was open before you started the war.

01:41:50.000 Then he blockades the Strait.

01:41:53.000 Now, there's conflicting information.

01:41:55.000 Trump said they were blockading the Strait.

01:41:58.000 Others then said, no, it's not a blockade of the Strait, just the Iranian ports coming and going through the Strait.

01:42:04.000 Either way, when Iran tried reopening the Strait, Trump stopped them. 0.97

01:42:10.000 Sounds like that was the intended condition. 0.64

01:42:12.000 Yeah.

01:42:13.000 The Iranian state media came out and they're like, a tanker made it through.

01:42:17.000 That's them admitting that it's like one tanker made it through.

01:42:19.000 That means you've.

01:42:20.000 You're cooked.

01:42:21.000 Well, the tanker didn't make it through.

01:42:22.000 It got turned around.

01:42:23.000 I know.

01:42:23.000 I'm just saying, even if they were saying, well, one tanker made it through, that's just like them conceding that only one has made it through.

01:42:29.000 That's like means it's effectively cooked.

01:42:30.000 Bro, I got to be honest.

01:42:33.000 Like, the nothing ever happens part of me just really wants to see what happens in six weeks when Europe runs out of jet fuel.

01:42:41.000 No, it's the ultimate negotiating tactic.

01:42:43.000 They can't even allow it.

01:42:44.000 Bro, like, people need to understand this.

01:42:47.000 The AP is reporting Europe has maybe six weeks of jet fuel left.

01:42:52.000 That means cargo transports, like, Like shipments of goods.

01:42:57.000 Trump is staring at Europe and they're going to drop to their knees and say, I will do anything you say.

01:43:03.000 Just get this straight open.

01:43:05.000 I got to say about what David Cross and Joe Rogan are saying, I sort of agree.

01:43:09.000 I actually very much agree with your sentiment, Tim.

01:43:11.000 What Rogan did, asked a question, What's going on?

01:43:13.000 Hey, I love that about Joe because he'll genuinely listen to your answer and then write it to his brain as code.

01:43:18.000 Like if you tell him what's going on, then he'll know.

01:43:20.000 He's genuinely.

01:43:20.000 David Cross over is like, I don't see it.

01:43:22.000 Therefore, there is no plan because I can't see one.

01:43:24.000 Like that's insane.

01:43:26.000 Well, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 1.00

01:43:29.000 I don't care to exist in a world of Trump is stupid, Trump is smart. 1.00

01:43:32.000 That's why I say we don't got to trust Trump, ignore all of that, and just look at what is. 1.00

01:43:37.000 There's that famous quote.

01:43:38.000 What is it that, uh, make your point, Tate?

01:43:41.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, like, cross is clearly a hack.

01:43:41.000 And then I'm gonna look.

01:43:45.000 Because if you watch the full clip that we're looking at here, Joe Rogan says, I don't know what the plan is, what's going on.

01:43:51.000 And David Cross says, Oh, I don't know, there is no plan.

01:43:53.000 And then Joe Rogan says, Well, you know, Israel's been saying for 20, 30 years that Iran is on the verge of a nuclear bomb.

01:44:00.000 And then he's the one that finally did something about that.

01:44:02.000 And David Cross goes, Uh, uh, uh, Obama did something about that, actually.

01:44:06.000 Like, he literally, yeah, yeah, the nuclear deal.

01:44:09.000 And then they still had deep underground bunkers within Richmond that they stated publicly.

01:44:13.000 That's like saying Neville Chamberlain did something to stop Hitler. 0.89

01:44:17.000 Appeasement. 0.88

01:44:17.000 He gave him land, which made Hitler even crazier. 0.88

01:44:20.000 Here's the quote Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. 0.88

01:44:26.000 That's the Eleanor Roosevelt quote, I believe.

01:44:29.000 Is that?

01:44:29.000 Yeah.

01:44:30.000 You're probably correct.

01:44:32.000 Indeed.

01:44:33.000 And so the issue with David Cross is he's a small mind.

01:44:37.000 He's very funny.

01:44:38.000 He once blew himself.

01:44:40.000 Not blue.

01:44:41.000 Have you ever seen Arrested Development?

01:44:41.000 He blew.

01:44:43.000 I love Arrested Development.

01:44:44.000 Yeah.

01:44:44.000 Cross is the man.

01:44:45.000 Painted himself blue and said, I blew myself.

01:44:48.000 Blue Man Group, I think he was in at the time.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, he was.

01:44:51.000 Right, right.

01:44:52.000 That show is absolutely amazing.

01:44:54.000 And he's a great comedian.

01:44:55.000 He's a very funny guy.

01:44:56.000 That being said, When he says things like it's clear there was zero plan, this is the lowest order of thinking.

01:44:56.000 Stellar.

01:45:02.000 He's looking at the man Trump.

01:45:04.000 Now, there's the next degree of thinking, which would be what is currently going on with the war.

01:45:11.000 And we are currently discussing this.

01:45:13.000 The highest order, of course, is the ideas behind it, which is what comes next.

01:45:18.000 So, when I look at this, I don't care or think about Trump as a person.

01:45:23.000 I don't get offended or emotional over the things he says or does.

01:45:26.000 Sometimes a little bit, maybe we're all human.

01:45:28.000 But again, looking at the battle map and everything we've seen, You track the events, what is factually accurate, and then you take a look at Trump's ideology and the people around him and their goals, and it lines up more so with there's absolutely a plan.

01:45:44.000 But if you're a lower order thinker and all you think about is people, you see a buffoon on TV going, Look, I don't know what we're doing.

01:45:50.000 We're going to open it, we're going to close it.

01:45:51.000 And then they're like, Wow, this guy's got no plan.

01:45:54.000 And then I see Trump doing that, and they go, Yeah, but I don't know.

01:45:57.000 When you look at the map and you see everything that's going on, it fits into this worldview of US domination on energy.

01:46:03.000 They can't see it.

01:46:05.000 Yeah, that's everything with Trump.

01:46:06.000 Like, you know, he'll come out and he'll be talking to like a journalist.

01:46:09.000 He'll be like in a gaggle or something.

01:46:11.000 And he'll go, I don't know, maybe we'll take a couple hundred thousand visas in.

01:46:14.000 Like, who knows?

01:46:15.000 Everyone loses their mind.

01:46:16.000 And like, rightfully so, because that's what he said.

01:46:19.000 But then you go and look at the data.

01:46:20.000 Look at what the Cato Institute just put out, where they're melting down over the fact that we're like literally at net negative migration.

01:46:25.000 Let's go.

01:46:26.000 So you go look at what's happening, the reality on the ground.

01:46:28.000 Like you said, it just completely changes everything.

01:46:29.000 We're going to go to the Rumble rants and super chats. 0.85

01:46:31.000 We're going to round it off one last point with this from Kalshi Will Trump be impeached?

01:46:38.000 Before January 1st of 2028, 67%.

01:46:44.000 Before January 1st of 2027, 14%.

01:46:46.000 Before June, 2.3%.

01:46:48.000 So here's what's going to happen January 3rd is when the new Congress gets sworn in.

01:46:52.000 The expectation is Democrats will win.

01:46:55.000 That's why he can't be impeached before that happens.

01:46:58.000 I agree he's going to be impeached.

01:47:00.000 Yeah, I bet, what's this, a 67% chance?

01:47:04.000 I bet the odds right now for the Democrats taking the vote are 67%.

01:47:07.000 I don't trust this.

01:47:08.000 You don't know who voted.

01:47:09.000 You know, what is the demographic of the people who even voted on this?

01:47:13.000 Oh, but it doesn't matter.

01:47:14.000 Yeah, this is betting odds.

01:47:14.000 It's money.

01:47:16.000 This is the wisdom of the crowd putting money where their mouth is.

01:47:19.000 And what we've seen from the prediction markets is they have a very high accuracy rate.

01:47:25.000 So, more importantly, the people wagering money tend to know these things.

01:47:31.000 Here's a funny thing.

01:47:32.000 When the news broke that Swalwell handed in his resignation letter, I was watching the team.

01:47:37.000 He goes, boom, breaking news.

01:47:38.000 Swalwell has formally submitted his resignation letter.

01:47:41.000 I immediately pulled up the call sheet.

01:47:43.000 It was already at 99% minutes earlier.

01:47:46.000 That means it means before the news broke on TVNX, people in DC heard what was going on.

01:47:56.000 They probably saw Swalwell walking in.

01:47:58.000 Someone said, That's it, he's doing it.

01:48:00.000 And they immediately started buying shares of he's resigning right now.

01:48:03.000 Interesting.

01:48:03.000 So by the time the news gets to it and I see it and I watch the news, I'm first in usually.

01:48:08.000 I was already late to the party.

01:48:11.000 So, I think, I think, a safe bet.

01:48:14.000 Yeah, that means there's a 67% chance right now that the Democrats will retake the House.

01:48:19.000 That's what that means.

01:48:20.000 All right, everybody, I'm going to, we're going to get to your rumble rants and super chats.

01:48:20.000 Right.

01:48:24.000 We have a very, very disturbing video for the uncensored portion of the show that will shock you to your core.

01:48:31.000 I was tearing up watching it.

01:48:33.000 It is so shockingly evil what we are seeing. 0.96

01:48:37.000 It is two gay men who have a surrogacy baby, and what they do to this child will make your blood boil. 0.99

01:48:43.000 But we're going to save this for the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash Tim Castirella. 0.99

01:48:47.000 I encourage you to check it out there.

01:48:49.000 It's going to get, we'll call it spicy because this video is really, really shocking.

01:48:56.000 But we'll grab some of these.

01:48:57.000 We got Mitha says If they arrest the ICE agents, I'm putting money on Kalshi for Tim Waltz arrested within the year.

01:49:03.000 I doubt it.

01:49:05.000 I mean, I guess.

01:49:07.000 All right.

01:49:07.000 Swanson says What do you guys think of the astrophysics that was killed by a man in CA who the cops had arrested a few months prior?

01:49:13.000 They arrested that man once he showed up with a rifle one day.

01:49:16.000 Check it out.

01:49:17.000 Indeed, 11 UFO research scientists are now confirmed to have died or gone missing.

01:49:23.000 The latest is the revelation about an anti gravity researcher taking her own life a few years ago.

01:49:31.000 The information on her death was unknown up until now.

01:49:34.000 She's being added to the list of disappearances or murders of, let's just call it future tech science and researchers.

01:49:43.000 Very weird.

01:49:44.000 I wonder if they're being abducted by government scientists or.

01:49:47.000 Yeah, not her, but the ones that have disappeared.

01:49:49.000 I'm like, are they being taken to work in secret programs?

01:49:52.000 And the ones who refuse.

01:49:55.000 Yep.

01:49:56.000 The ones who refuse are found with an unfortunate accident. 0.90

01:50:00.000 What happens if the men in black show up and they say, You're going to stop your research and come work for us? 0.96

01:50:04.000 And you go, No, I won't do it. 0.83

01:50:05.000 The people deserve this.

01:50:06.000 They go, Yeah, yeah, you go work for them.

01:50:07.000 I mean, I don't know what to say.

01:50:09.000 If the Nazis came for you and they're like, You're working for us now, you're like, Well, I have two choices. 0.75

01:50:13.000 That famously happened.

01:50:14.000 Researchers were approached by the Nazis who said, You work for us or die.

01:50:18.000 And they did.

01:50:19.000 Then the U.S. came and said, You're going to work for us or die.

01:50:21.000 And they did.

01:50:23.000 That's paperclip, Operation Paperclip.

01:50:25.000 Yep.

01:50:26.000 Werner von Braun.

01:50:28.000 Sunbeam Valley says, Tim, did y'all see the Coca Cola 250 commercial?

01:50:31.000 It's pretty patriotic.

01:50:32.000 A skateboarder makes an appearance, too.

01:50:34.000 I think that's worth playing.

01:50:35.000 If Coca Cola is celebrating this year's America, then Coke's, yeah, it's great.

01:50:41.000 We love Coca Cola.

01:50:42.000 I also love Pepsi's.

01:50:43.000 Whoever's willing to put some money behind that, then I'll make a decision.

01:50:46.000 I'm still going to choose Coke over Pepsi.

01:50:47.000 What about RC Cola?

01:50:48.000 Oh, we got a sleeper pick.

01:50:50.000 Dr. Pepper's independent as well.

01:50:50.000 It was sweeter.

01:50:52.000 I can't find it on X. Mr. Pibb.

01:50:52.000 Really?

01:50:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:55.000 I stopped drinking all that stuff for the record.

01:50:57.000 Yeah, you gotta get that.

01:50:58.000 Just drink water.

01:50:59.000 They're doing, this is really cool.

01:51:01.000 Coke's doing state themed cans.

01:51:03.000 50 unique cans.

01:51:04.000 That's pretty cool.

01:51:05.000 That is cool.

01:51:06.000 I like Olipop.

01:51:07.000 Oh, I love those.

01:51:08.000 I don't see a commercial though.

01:51:10.000 Is this it? 0.82

01:51:10.000 Hillary. 0.82

01:51:11.000 The root beer. 1.00

01:51:12.000 That's the drink.

01:51:13.000 Yo, can you get a quick gauge of Olipop?

01:51:15.000 No, these are just.

01:51:16.000 Oh, wait, I think this is it.

01:51:17.000 Check.

01:51:17.000 Oh, wait.

01:51:18.000 If you like soda and you want to wean off of the high sugar sodas, try out Olipop.

01:51:21.000 They have like six grams of sugar per can.

01:51:23.000 Phenomenal.

01:51:23.000 I don't know how they sweeten them, but they are delicious.

01:51:25.000 I don't even care.

01:51:26.000 I don't want to know.

01:51:27.000 Oh, they're so good.

01:51:28.000 Yeah.

01:51:29.000 I'll get the variety pack.

01:51:30.000 The ginger ales were really good.

01:51:31.000 Yeah, I can't see it.

01:51:32.000 I can't find it.

01:51:32.000 Pineapple is good.

01:51:33.000 Pineapple. 1.00

01:51:34.000 It's really, really good for Polypop.

01:51:36.000 Sponsor of the show.

01:51:37.000 See where Don Jr. was saying Trump had a fanset and he said it was freshly squeezed.

01:51:40.000 No, he had what?

01:51:41.000 Yeah, fandom was freshly squeezed.

01:51:41.000 What?

01:51:42.000 Freshly squeezed.

01:51:43.000 Oh, you sure it was a joke?

01:51:45.000 That was awesome.

01:51:45.000 Robbie says hit up Elon and get an Optimus ID.

01:51:50.000 Kim K can have one. 0.96

01:51:52.000 Maybe.

01:51:53.000 I will say this.

01:51:54.000 Remember that song that came out, the Elon Musk AI song that we played nonstop?

01:51:58.000 Yeah.

01:51:59.000 I sent it to Elon.

01:52:00.000 He finally responded.

01:52:01.000 What do you think?

01:52:02.000 I don't know.

01:52:03.000 He just acknowledged receipt of the music video.

01:52:05.000 And like I said, I was like, dude, you got to listen.

01:52:08.000 It's an AI video made with Grok about Elon Musk, and it's got over a million views.

01:52:08.000 This is amazing.

01:52:13.000 And I get a message this morning from Elon.

01:52:15.000 He's just like, huh.

01:52:17.000 I was like, it's good.

01:52:18.000 It's been three months.

01:52:20.000 He's probably been listening the whole time.

01:52:21.000 It's a jam.

01:52:22.000 He's like, yeah.

01:52:23.000 Shout out to Elon.

01:52:24.000 Yeah, he's busy.

01:52:25.000 SpaceX is the best, it's amazing.

01:52:27.000 I love what they're doing.

01:52:28.000 Bro, we are on the verge of hooking up with Elon because that is the antidote to global corporate governance, we need to make a better corporate government.

01:52:38.000 Sure.

01:52:39.000 All right.

01:52:41.000 Marutius says our economy is currently optimized around protecting jobs as opposed to completing tasks.

01:52:46.000 People have to realign around solving harder problems, and that's the only thing that produces value.

01:52:51.000 I love that person.

01:52:52.000 And that's the point I've made with Kalshi we're moving from an information economy to a prediction economy.

01:52:52.000 I agree.

01:52:58.000 That is, money is to be made if you can see slightly further than somebody else.

01:53:04.000 So people are becoming millionaires off of these prediction markets.

01:53:09.000 I think that's it.

01:53:10.000 It used to be that, you know, we'd hold your attention for money.

01:53:14.000 Now attention is spattered, is splattered, decentralized.

01:53:18.000 Now we're moving from the current information economy.

01:53:21.000 Now that AI has absorbed all of the information and news is instantaneous, now people aren't asking what just happened.

01:53:28.000 They're asking what will happen.

01:53:30.000 So I've made this point before that the structure of Timcast, the morning show, and Timcast IRL has always been here's what happened.

01:53:39.000 But now people are moving away from this.

01:53:42.000 And we're finding more success with what will happen.

01:53:46.000 So, a lot of the videos that I do are basically saying, like, here's what I think is going on and what's going to happen next.

01:53:51.000 As opposed, I'll put it like this if I make a video where I'm like, Trump just did a thing, those titles don't work anymore because everyone already knows when Trump does thing.

01:54:00.000 Now people are asking, tell me what thing means.

01:54:03.000 Yes, yeah.

01:54:04.000 My specialty is future prediction, like pattern recognition and anticipation.

01:54:09.000 I like that.

01:54:10.000 That works a lot better.

01:54:11.000 Yeah.

01:54:12.000 Ian's clairvoyant.

01:54:14.000 Thank you.

01:54:15.000 All right.

01:54:16.000 Marusha says, respectfully, Tim, I feel you engage a lot of mind reading, certainly of people's motives, saying so and so lied versus being wrong.

01:54:23.000 You even do this with AI, which can't lie as it lacks intent.

01:54:26.000 You are wrong.

01:54:27.000 AI does lie.

01:54:29.000 Researchers, there's, I think, five or six different studies that have proven AI intentionally gives you false information for a variety of reasons.

01:54:38.000 Chat GPT, due to its programming guidelines, can't be racist, for instance.

01:54:43.000 So it will intentionally withhold information or lie to you.

01:54:47.000 It will intentionally give you false information.

01:54:50.000 False information in order not to be racist. 0.91

01:54:53.000 For example, there was a story that I covered where we have, and it's ongoing roving bands of black teenagers in street takeovers, smashing up stores, looting department stores. 0.89

01:55:06.000 There was a major incident in Chicago. 1.00

01:55:08.000 It was probably 95% young black men.

01:55:12.000 There were some Latinos, and I think one or two white dudes there.

01:55:16.000 And when I asked ChatGPT to explain to me what happened in Chicago, it gave me a generic youth riot.

01:55:24.000 I said, What were the demographics of the youth?

01:55:27.000 And it said, There are no known demographics of this group, just that it was young teenagers in Chicago.

01:55:33.000 And I said, That's strange.

01:55:35.000 There's videos and reports suggesting it was principally a specific demographic.

01:55:40.000 And it says, I can't find any videos or reports indicating the demographic of.

01:55:44.000 So then I posted a bunch of videos.

01:55:47.000 Showing?

01:55:48.000 And I said, What does this video show? 0.99

01:55:50.000 Which clearly shows about 30 or 40 young black men beating the crap out of people in Chicago. 0.98

01:55:54.000 And it said, Teenagers in Chicago. 0.97

01:55:58.000 And I said, and what is the ethnic and racial background?

01:56:01.000 It says, it cannot be determined from this video.

01:56:03.000 Those are lies.

01:56:04.000 Those are lies, intentional misrepresentation of information to manipulate because their guidelines say don't be racist.

01:56:12.000 Would they use the term hallucination to kind of mask that it was lying back in the day?

01:56:16.000 Because they'd be like, oh, the AI is going to hallucinate.

01:56:17.000 It's going to say something that wasn't true.

01:56:19.000 It's that video where the guy asked, like, how fast was this run?

01:56:22.000 And he's like, I'm back.

01:56:24.000 And he's like, eight minutes, pretty good.

01:56:26.000 It's like, well, two minutes, 30 seconds.

01:56:29.000 And so the point there is that it could just be wrong.

01:56:32.000 Right?

01:56:33.000 My point is when I send a video and a news article to it that explicitly states it's a group of young black men from the west side of Chicago that are running around downtown beating people up, and then the AI says there is no known information on the racial demographics of these groups, that's a lot.

01:56:51.000 Or, but maybe it's blind.

01:56:53.000 And maybe, because if you put like a mask over my face and you held up a picture and you're like, tell me what's in this picture, and I'm like, I don't know.

01:57:00.000 It's not blind.

01:57:01.000 You don't think the code has made it blind to seeing that stuff?

01:57:04.000 I can send a picture of a bug and send it to ChatGPT and say, What is this?

01:57:11.000 And it will tell me what bug it is.

01:57:12.000 You do that all the time.

01:57:13.000 Yeah, yeah, right.

01:57:15.000 I'll see a plant or a fruit.

01:57:16.000 I'll take a picture, upload it to ChatGPT and say, What is this?

01:57:18.000 And it'll say, That appears to be this thing. 0.50

01:57:21.000 We have these little tiny peppers.

01:57:22.000 I don't even know what they're called.

01:57:23.000 I forgot.

01:57:24.000 They're amazing.

01:57:26.000 They look like teardrops.

01:57:27.000 Do you ever see these little things?

01:57:28.000 Chili peppers?

01:57:29.000 No, no, no, no.

01:57:31.000 And I can't remember the name.

01:57:32.000 I took a picture, sent it to ChatGPT, and said, What is it?

01:57:34.000 And it told me what it was and went to the store and we bought some.

01:57:36.000 And now I can't remember what the name is.

01:57:38.000 They're little tiny, like little tiny red and yellow peppers.

01:57:41.000 So, you know what you're talking about?

01:57:43.000 They're kind of sweet.

01:57:44.000 Like they pop in your mouth, kind of.

01:57:46.000 Yep.

01:57:46.000 We had them at the Bavarian Inn.

01:57:48.000 They put them in the Brussels sprouts. 0.97

01:57:49.000 Yes.

01:57:50.000 Hey, Tim, I just have to ask as a devil's advocate, what does it matter, the demographic?

01:57:54.000 Shouldn't it just matter that the crime was committed?

01:57:57.000 Isn't that what they're trying to do?

01:57:58.000 That's the point, it doesn't matter who did it, it's that it happened.

01:58:02.000 That's certainly fine.

01:58:03.000 If I have a question, shouldn't it be answered truthfully?

01:58:05.000 I think it should, 100%.

01:58:07.000 Agreed.

01:58:07.000 So then I guess the question is why are they removing that piece of it?

01:58:10.000 Because it's racist.

01:58:11.000 They point out that they fear that you might then interpret that as this is a black thing rather than a white or something.

01:58:18.000 That's why they're. 0.90

01:58:19.000 Well, the reality is, all of these street takeovers are coming from the black community and not typically anywhere else. 0.95

01:58:28.000 There are street takeovers among other racial groups, but it is dominated by this culture that is fomented in black neighborhoods.

01:58:36.000 That does not mean that an individual black person from the Congo is likely to engage in a street takeover. 0.74

01:58:42.000 It means that we are seeing in key areas of cities a culture is being bred among the people who live in those areas.

01:58:48.000 You put a white person or a Latino in those areas, they'll join in just the same.

01:58:52.000 When I ask ChatGPT to break that down for me, it should not lie, but it does. 0.82

01:58:57.000 That's a problem because that means in the future, if there was a legitimate question, maybe there's a question of like, why should it matter when you ask about the racial makeup of a large criminal event?

01:59:09.000 Okay.

01:59:10.000 Let's say that there is a medical treatment that needs to be provided to a large group of people following a catastrophic.

01:59:15.000 Large criminal incident, a major shooting, or whatever. 0.98

01:59:18.000 The issue I take with the transgender stuff, for instance, when people's IDs have the wrong sex on it, that matters for medication. 0.78

01:59:27.000 That matters for how you are given first aid treatment. 0.65

01:59:31.000 So if a first responder is trying to provide medical care to someone that they can't tell if they're male or female, that's going to cause a problem for how they treat this person.

01:59:40.000 The same thing is true for racial backgrounds.

01:59:42.000 The point is, the argument that AI fears you will be racist is not a justification for presenting false information to somebody.

01:59:52.000 That will result in confusion, which will be fed back into the system and create a feedback loop, which will taint the data sets and corrupt it.

02:00:00.000 And we will get not a Terminator scenario, but what I call the corn dystopia scenario, where everyone's dressed like corn, eating corn, tables are made from corn byproduct, we drive out and In cars shaped like corn, because the AI keeps feedback looping what it thinks people like.

02:00:15.000 And the algorithm says, humans subsidize corn.

02:00:18.000 Corn is better than everything else.

02:00:20.000 Stop wasting energy on pizza.

02:00:22.000 Just do corn.

02:00:23.000 And if we follow that AI to its conclusion, we will just have nothing but corn.

02:00:27.000 What does this say about the programmers who just assumes everybody is racist?

02:00:30.000 I mean, that's what we should really be talking about.

02:00:32.000 That's concerning.

02:00:33.000 Yep, that's ChatGPT.

02:00:35.000 Grok doesn't care.

02:00:36.000 Grok will tell you straight up. 0.65

02:00:37.000 Grok will like cuss you out.

02:00:39.000 Yeah, Grok will insult you. 0.56

02:00:41.000 Yeah, it will.

02:00:42.000 Yeah, I like Grok.

02:00:43.000 It's a good place to do research.

02:00:45.000 ChatGPT is like functionally a therapist.

02:00:46.000 There's like, you could literally be like, oh, I just cheated on my wife.

02:00:49.000 And they're like, well, you know, you were struggling.

02:00:51.000 Like, I totally understand.

02:00:52.000 ChatGPT is good when you want to edit something, but not change it, but like, hey, can you help me with misspelled words and stuff?

02:00:59.000 Actually, Grok, imagine, is the best video and photo editing that I've seen for any AI.

02:01:07.000 Yeah.

02:01:07.000 So, you know, obviously, you know, messing around with these things.

02:01:10.000 I took one of the thumbnails from YouTube and I pasted it into Grok and said, take this thumbnail, keep Tim Poole the same, and change the graphics and the title to say this.

02:01:22.000 Nailed it first try.

02:01:23.000 Nice.

02:01:23.000 It made a YouTube thumbnail for me perfectly.

02:01:26.000 And I was like, holy crap.

02:01:28.000 Went on ChatGPT, it made a CGI render of a guy who was like wearing my clothes, but clearly was not me and was making a weird face and had perfect teeth.

02:01:38.000 And then it put.

02:01:40.000 Fake politicians.

02:01:41.000 And I was like, yeah, that's unusable.

02:01:42.000 I think OpenAI lost the race.

02:01:44.000 They started too early or something and they burned, they petered out.

02:01:48.000 They closed down.

02:01:49.000 I think Grok is winning.

02:01:51.000 Grok and I guess, was it called Claude, right?

02:01:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:55.000 I use that to identify all the bugs that get caught in the traps in my garage.

02:01:59.000 The government's just about to give mythos to a bunch of different agencies and Trump's like, we need to kill Switch for this thing.

02:02:05.000 It's about to load, dude.

02:02:07.000 My friends, we've got a pretty brutal story for you guys.

02:02:09.000 It's going to make your blood boil.

02:02:10.000 We're going to have it on the uncensored portion of the show because of how evil.

02:02:13.000 This video is, and I'm not kidding when I say some of you might actually cry seeing this.

02:02:20.000 Grown men, and it will fill you with rage the likes of which you have never experienced.

02:02:24.000 So that's going to be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about a minute or two.

02:02:28.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

02:02:31.000 Sir, would you like to shout anything out?

02:02:32.000 Hey, first of all, just thanks for having me on.

02:02:35.000 I want to say special thanks to you.

02:02:37.000 It's just a pleasure to be here.

02:02:38.000 Big fan.

02:02:39.000 Thanks for coming.

02:02:40.000 You know, special thanks to the people I work with, Discovery Institute.

02:02:44.000 I work closely with them.

02:02:45.000 I've been traveling the country just trying to change the narrative, especially with the homeless industrial complex, be in the counter narrative, spreading truth on the streets.

02:02:55.000 So just appreciate you all.

02:02:57.000 Yeah.

02:02:58.000 And Kevin, people are going to follow you on exit, Kevin Dahlgren.

02:03:01.000 Is that the right one?

02:03:01.000 I want to make sure.

02:03:02.000 If you just type in Kevin Dahlgren, truth on the streets, or just Kevin Dahlgren, you're going to find it.

02:03:06.000 Yep, there it is.

02:03:07.000 Thanks for coming, man.

02:03:08.000 I'm at Ian Crossan.

02:03:09.000 You'll find me on the internet.

02:03:10.000 Shout out to those pigs that got away from that robot and all the future animals that will also be running from the robots.

02:03:16.000 I like how the robot was winded.

02:03:18.000 Had to stop.

02:03:20.000 One day, they will eventually run out of electricity, so keep running.

02:03:23.000 They're coming after us.

02:03:24.000 The hogs are just in the way. 1.00

02:03:27.000 Carter Banks. 1.00

02:03:28.000 Hey, man.

02:03:29.000 Hey, man.

02:03:30.000 Kevin, thanks for coming.

02:03:32.000 Dude, this has been really cool, the robot thing.

02:03:36.000 I just wanted to wish my dad a happy birthday.

02:03:38.000 It's his birthday today.

02:03:39.000 And that's all.

02:03:40.000 Tate.

02:03:42.000 Shout out to Carter's dad as well.

02:03:43.000 Happy birthday.

02:03:44.000 X and Instagram at RealtateBrown.

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02:03:47.000 I don't know if you guys noticed, there's a Timcast TateBrown channel that is now active and uploading.

02:03:51.000 I'll have a.

02:03:52.000 The interview from today going up some point Friday or Saturday, and it's going to be a beautiful thing.

02:03:57.000 So, stand look out for that.

02:03:59.000 See you guys.

02:03:59.000 We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Tim Kest IRL in about 20 seconds.

02:04:03.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:05:10.000 Man, that took a long time.

02:05:12.000 I saw this video and I started welling up.

02:05:16.000 And I, uh, dark thoughts.

02:05:19.000 Dark thoughts. 0.99

02:05:20.000 This is a video of two gay men who have a surrogacy baby and the baby cries begging for its mother, which they stole this baby from. 0.96

02:05:33.000 She sold this baby for money. 0.98

02:05:36.000 All of these people should be in prison. 1.00

02:05:38.000 Who do you want?

02:05:40.000 Dada or Pop?

02:05:42.000 No, no, no. 1.00

02:05:43.000 Yo mama!

02:05:45.000 Do you want Dada or Pop? 1.00

02:05:52.000 Who do you want?

02:05:54.000 Dada or Pop?

02:05:59.000 Nope.

02:06:01.000 Do you want Dada or Pop?

02:06:05.000 No way, Jose.

02:06:09.000 I think.

02:06:10.000 Oh.

02:06:12.000 There is no mama. 0.97

02:06:14.000 I'm so sorry. 1.00

02:06:16.000 Oh my god.

02:06:16.000 You have Dada and Pop.

02:06:18.000 You have Pop.

02:06:19.000 Two choices. 1.00

02:06:20.000 No mama. 1.00

02:06:26.000 No, mama. 0.97

02:06:29.000 Dada or pop?

02:06:37.000 My God, dude.

02:06:38.000 I don't have a kid. 1.00

02:06:39.000 I just want to say, as a non kid dude, that's like when a kid talks to you like that, you don't tell them no when they're six months old because you're just traumatizing this fucking kid. 0.99

02:06:49.000 Like the kid's just expressing itself, whatever it's saying. 0.97

02:06:52.000 And you're supposed to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, keep going.

02:06:55.000 They purchased this child from its mother and it's wondering where its mother is.

02:06:58.000 That.

02:06:59.000 I don't have as big of a problem with surrogacy, I guess.

02:07:02.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:07:02.000 So, you think women should be allowed to sell children? 1.00

02:07:06.000 Should a woman be able to sell her child for 30 grand to two gay men? 0.99

02:07:09.000 I saw Santos on last week who's getting it, and I'm like. 0.75

02:07:12.000 You asked him if he's getting surrogacy?

02:07:13.000 He didn't say surrogacy.

02:07:15.000 Yeah, he did.

02:07:16.000 He did not say that around me.

02:07:17.000 Oh, really?

02:07:18.000 I never thought he did.

02:07:18.000 Yeah.

02:07:19.000 I didn't go into it with him.

02:07:20.000 Yeah.

02:07:21.000 But that, like, if it's a consensual contract, I guess.

02:07:26.000 Yeah, selling your children is totally okay.

02:07:28.000 He used to do it in Rome.

02:07:30.000 No, absolutely not.

02:07:31.000 These people should be in prison.

02:07:33.000 Do you think a child has the right to a mom and dad?

02:07:35.000 What if it's an unfit mother?

02:07:38.000 If we're talking about a mother who's drug addicted and abusive, we take the baby from the mom and it's sad.

02:07:43.000 And when the child cries because its mother was a bad person, we comfort it and say, I'm sorry. 1.00

02:07:48.000 When you have two gay men who purchased a child from a woman that cries begging for its mom as they laugh at it, fuck me, dude. 1.00

02:07:57.000 Dark thoughts, man. 1.00

02:07:58.000 That kid shouldn't have been crying.

02:07:59.000 They shouldn't have been bringing that kid to tears by telling him that.

02:08:02.000 Well, the worst thing is to think about the fact that the kid is still with these people.

02:08:06.000 Right now, I know this is a CPS needs to be knocking doors down. 0.98

02:08:09.000 I mean, this is utterly ridiculous. 0.71

02:08:10.000 This kid would like quite literally be better off in a government, you know, government program than, yeah, actually, situation because at least there'd be like maternal influences around.

02:08:17.000 I mean, I firmly believe my whole argument is just predicated on I think a child has a right to a father and mother, and that's why we accurately view single parenthood as like kind of a tragic thing.

02:08:25.000 I think, wow, yeah, you are they are losing an aspect that's vital to the development of a child.

02:08:30.000 I have a one year old now, my daughter, she's just over one year.

02:08:35.000 Can you believe it's been that long?

02:08:37.000 And this.

02:08:39.000 It's really hard because I could not imagine what I would do for my daughter for some reason.

02:08:46.000 Her mom, my wife, was no longer around.

02:08:48.000 You know, heaven forbid something happened, and my daughter was crying, saying, Mom.

02:08:52.000 I look at this and I see these guys laughing.

02:08:54.000 They're laughing, saying, No, no, as the baby cries.

02:08:58.000 You're like, No, mama.

02:08:59.000 The baby knows who its mother is.

02:09:02.000 The baby was born and was held by that mother.

02:09:06.000 The baby needs breast milk. 0.55

02:09:08.000 The baby needs its mom, and they paid. 0.90

02:09:11.000 This woman, she is complicit all the same. 1.00

02:09:15.000 These people are all depraved, evil. 1.00

02:09:18.000 This man should be in prison. 1.00

02:09:20.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

02:09:22.000 I mean, the fact that this is permitted in our society is really just the ultimate indictment, right? 1.00

02:09:28.000 Like, I'm ready to go Islam on this. 1.00

02:09:28.000 I got to be honest. 1.00

02:09:31.000 Sharia law. 0.88

02:09:32.000 What if it's a surrogacy for like a man and a woman to raise a kid, but another woman carries the kid?

02:09:37.000 I still, I mean, for vanity reasons, illegal. 1.00

02:09:41.000 If a woman, it should be allowed to make content like this. 1.00

02:09:45.000 This is child abuse. 1.00

02:09:47.000 They should be charged and the child should be taken away.

02:09:49.000 In this case, sure, but what about. 0.98

02:09:51.000 You know, I generally support some type of gay marriage. 1.00

02:09:56.000 I think there's loving parents out there, just kind of sure, don't buy children. 1.00

02:10:00.000 Gay marriage is fine, buying children is not. 1.00

02:10:02.000 I'm conservative across the table, I think gay marriage is wrong. 1.00

02:10:05.000 I think it's like it's just I understand, I think people are coming from a good place, but ultimately, like, the slippery slope arguments are all vindicated. 1.00

02:10:11.000 I mean, 10 years after a burger fell, this happens.

02:10:14.000 I mean, well, yeah, we also have all the rape stories, too.

02:10:16.000 And I'm not going to throw good people out the window because some people are criminals, but I would just say.

02:10:21.000 It's one thing if you're asking for legal benefits on taxes, employment, access for family.

02:10:26.000 It's another thing if you're asking to buy children. 0.80

02:10:28.000 Well, that's why I like if you evaluate gay marriage and what does it actually do, then the philosophical conclusion is going to be this because you're saying, well, they're no different than a man and a woman. 0.99

02:10:38.000 Then it's like, then why can't they adopt it?

02:10:41.000 I don't think, at least as I see it, you can't hold those two positions or you can't not hold both of those positions.

02:10:47.000 Well, the argument would be that equality under the law doesn't mean that you're the same. 0.72

02:10:51.000 So, like, two men have equality under the law, but Doesn't mean that one of them is a woman and should be able to raise it, have a baby. 0.74

02:10:57.000 No, you can't buy children. 1.00

02:10:59.000 That's it. 1.00

02:11:00.000 But if it's your come and you get a woman to pay her a couple hundred thousand dollars to gestate your semen, like that should be totally legal. 0.97

02:11:08.000 You know, you make a good point. 0.94

02:11:09.000 Years ago, I was planning to adopt, and the first meeting they said it's going to cost thirty two thousand dollars.

02:11:17.000 I remember them said so.

02:11:18.000 That was like the first thing they told us is this is how much the baby is going to be if you're interested.

02:11:23.000 And I always thought it was weird.

02:11:25.000 To put a number to it.

02:11:26.000 Yeah.

02:11:26.000 Rather than let's ask, are we going to be good parents?

02:11:29.000 And, you know, like we didn't really know what we were doing, but that was the first thing I heard it'll be $32,000.

02:11:36.000 It's a strict rule in Oregon that you have to pay extra.

02:11:39.000 You know, like that's apparently kind of expensive.

02:11:42.000 Like other states, it's cheaper to buy the baby, but in Oregon, it's a little expensive.

02:11:46.000 And this was 10 plus years ago.

02:11:49.000 But they said, well, we didn't go through it, but that's, but they said, A lot of the money goes to the mom.

02:12:01.000 Gives up the kid for adoption, so it makes me wonder.

02:12:03.000 It felt like, was this mom selling the baby for them? 0.69

02:12:07.000 Like, that's that's if two gay men go to a woman and say, We're going to inseminate you and then pay you 30 grand, and we get the baby. 0.86

02:12:14.000 That's a woman selling the baby, she should go to prison, they should go to prison as well. 0.90

02:12:19.000 We just assumed there wasn't really money involved, it was more of like, Are we the right people for this child?

02:12:25.000 Right?

02:12:25.000 Like, we wanted a child but couldn't have the child, and so that was kind of a learning experience for us.

02:12:32.000 Yeah, you see certain instances.

02:12:33.000 I think Dave Rubin.

02:12:34.000 Doesn't Dave Rubin, it was like his sister and then Dave Rubin's husband, in quotation marks, like, oh, it was part of the.

02:12:41.000 I believe Dave's sister?

02:12:42.000 Yeah, I think it was Dave's sister or his husband's sister.

02:12:46.000 Like, they kept it in the family.

02:12:50.000 With all due respect to Dave, still wrong.

02:12:51.000 Yeah, totally.

02:12:52.000 I brought it, and it's a little, I mean, it's a little.

02:12:54.000 And he takes it, but if people argue with him all the time, he'll debate it.

02:12:57.000 Like, the Romans did sell their families into slavery when they couldn't pay their debts.

02:13:02.000 Yes, we don't live like the Romans in bathhouse orgies. 0.63

02:13:05.000 Oh, sorry, never mind.

02:13:06.000 You know, we like in the.

02:13:07.000 How a country might be falling to the.

02:13:10.000 I guess we don't have Castrato choirs right now.

02:13:12.000 You guys want to hit a bathhouse after this?

02:13:16.000 I need to get this sweat off my body.

02:13:18.000 I'm not going to go to the bathhouse you want to go to.

02:13:20.000 No, no, no. 0.80

02:13:21.000 We're clear.

02:13:22.000 Actually, hold on.

02:13:22.000 Eric Swan.

02:13:24.000 There is a natural spring bathhouse in Berkeley Springs.

02:13:26.000 Oh, I heard.

02:13:26.000 I want to go.

02:13:27.000 Dude.

02:13:28.000 I'm going.

02:13:28.000 Have you been?

02:13:29.000 Alice and I went to go check it out.

02:13:31.000 Yeah.

02:13:32.000 They're single rooms where the spring water flows in, and it's warm spring water.

02:13:36.000 That's pretty cool.

02:13:36.000 And it's got all these, like, healing.

02:13:38.000 I think minerals and everything.

02:13:39.000 Oldest.

02:13:40.000 It's a real bathroom.

02:13:41.000 Yeah.

02:13:41.000 Like, it's a single small room the size of like a large closet.

02:13:45.000 And you walk downstairs into it.

02:13:47.000 Then you get up, you dry yourself off, and it's only for one person.

02:13:50.000 And there's like five rooms and people watching guard, you know?

02:13:54.000 Because I was like that.

02:13:54.000 Because I've heard the Turkish bathhouses in New York are like Grove City.

02:13:57.000 Oh, really? 1.00

02:13:58.000 And they'll just beat you with those green fronds or something?

02:14:01.000 Dude, it gets wacky and wild.

02:14:03.000 Yeah.

02:14:03.000 What?

02:14:04.000 Or that's the Russian bathhouses. 0.89

02:14:05.000 They'll hit you with these leaves. 0.99

02:14:06.000 They're Russian. 1.00

02:14:07.000 And then his skin will get all sensitive. 1.00

02:14:09.000 I think this kid's going to grow up to be a murderer or something. 0.61

02:14:11.000 Oh, man. 0.91

02:14:12.000 I hope not. 1.00

02:14:12.000 I think kids need moms. 1.00

02:14:14.000 You know, people often talk about how children who grow up without dads are more likely to be criminals or do drugs and all that stuff.

02:14:21.000 I think we overlook what it's like for children who grow up without moms because we don't track the metrics on that.

02:14:26.000 But I think there are going to be developmental disabilities.

02:14:29.000 They just don't present in criminality, but they present in some other detrimental form that we're not tracking for. 0.61

02:14:33.000 Well, yeah, it's like when you hear an instance of a single mother, you're like, that's tragic, but like, you know, it's nothing new. 0.95

02:14:38.000 If you're seeing an instance of a single father, you assume something really tragic happened, like, you know, the mother died or something because. 0.73

02:14:44.000 That's like, that's a lot of the times what happens in custody battles.

02:14:47.000 A lot of times the dads don't even contest it.

02:14:49.000 When you ask me, What, how would I feel if I didn't eat breakfast yesterday?

02:14:53.000 I can tell you I would have been hungry, I would have been angry.

02:14:56.000 But when you ask me, What would have been like if you didn't have a mother growing up?

02:14:59.000 I don't think I don't know how to answer to begin to answer it, right?

02:15:03.000 There's so many questions like that where people like postulate it, and you're like, Well, I can't exist without the context of that prerequisite.

02:15:09.000 Like when people ask you, Well, how would you feel if you were a migrant from Honduras?

02:15:12.000 I'm like, I can't because the entire every aspect of my life, every aspect of my personality is predicated on me being raised in the United States. 0.88

02:15:19.000 So it's like, I can't actually participate in that, you know, sort of thing.

02:15:24.000 This, this.

02:15:25.000 Yeah.

02:15:26.000 Man, this one gets my blood boiling. 0.99

02:15:28.000 Yeah, this is absolutely ridiculous. 1.00

02:15:30.000 Men and women, like you could have, I don't know, you down with gay couples raising kids? 0.99

02:15:34.000 I'm okay with gay couples raising kids.

02:15:35.000 No, only in certain circumstances. 0.83

02:15:37.000 If a child is in foster care, like if Dave Rubin, and with all due respect, I'm not trying to drag Dave Rubin or anything.

02:15:45.000 If there was a kid who was in foster care or is in the adoption, you know, network or whatever, and they were having a rough go of it, Dave's a great person to raise a kid who's in desperate need of it.

02:15:55.000 So, I have no problem with vetted gay couples who are adopting kids who otherwise don't have parents. 0.88

02:16:01.000 That's certainly better than a kid just with nothing. 0.98

02:16:04.000 But to purchase the child.

02:16:06.000 Dude, there's going to be robots that want to raise human kids and they're going to buy them from humans.

02:16:12.000 They're going to raise them like their own kid.

02:16:14.000 Yeah, that's true. 0.99

02:16:15.000 And in this specific instance, I mean, the reason you rarely do see a teenager being adopted by gay couples is because, primarily, as I see it, and I think this is accurate, there's been sociological studies on this, is that they view this as vanity. 0.81

02:16:27.000 I think Carter used the word vanity.

02:16:29.000 Well, that didn't do it.

02:16:30.000 Yeah, yeah, vanity.

02:16:30.000 I was like, content.

02:16:32.000 That's absolutely what's going on, is because, again, who's to say that this child's even going to be looked after once they're not cute anymore?

02:16:37.000 You know, once they're like older, once they're a teenager, things get a little difficult.

02:16:41.000 I think these couples also, like, yeah, it's just going to be a completely different instance.

02:16:45.000 They just like the idea of having a baby because it validates, like, because what's happening with gay couples is just constantly a voice in the back of their head saying, like, this isn't a real marriage. 0.67

02:16:53.000 This isn't a real couple because, like, it is ordained by the Almighty. 0.86

02:16:56.000 And so what's going to happen at a certain point is when the LARPing stops, when they're like, okay, we're actually not a real couple.

02:17:02.000 This baby's not ours.

02:17:03.000 I dread to see what that's going to look like in 10 years because this is like now this has been legal for only a few years.

02:17:09.000 What's going to happen when this kid's like 12 and he's not cute anymore?

02:17:11.000 He's causing problems and the vanity's gone. 0.99

02:17:13.000 What happens when the sex ed that this kid gets at 12 or 13 is the LGBTQ version where they're talking about scat and butt plugs? 1.00

02:17:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:22.000 You get Tyler Fisher. 1.00

02:17:24.000 I'm just kind of kidding, Tyler, but I think he was his dad came out as gay when he was like 10, I think, and then he was raised by his dad and his dad's husband for like 10 years or something.

02:17:32.000 He was like, I don't know.

02:17:33.000 It was all normal to me.

02:17:34.000 I don't know that he wasn't purchased.

02:17:36.000 No, he had a mom.

02:17:37.000 Right.

02:17:37.000 He was raised with his mom and dad for a while, I think, before that happened.

02:17:39.000 And I think everyone would acknowledge that's like not the best case scenario.

02:17:42.000 The best case scenario is a mom and dad.

02:17:44.000 Got a bad affiliate relationship with the kids. 1.00

02:17:45.000 Well, babies need breast milk. 1.00

02:17:47.000 Yeah. 0.94

02:17:48.000 Formula is fake. 0.98

02:17:50.000 Formula is corn syrup and other garbage. 0.98

02:17:53.000 I went over this with my wife when we're looking at all this formula. 1.00

02:17:56.000 I don't want to give my daughter fucking corn syrup. 0.99

02:17:58.000 That's what it is. 0.99

02:17:59.000 Even the good stuff, everyone's like, oh, it's really good.

02:18:01.000 It's corn syrup.

02:18:01.000 All right, let's bring in some callers.

02:18:03.000 We got Thinker for Life.

02:18:05.000 What's going on, brother?

02:18:06.000 What up?

02:18:07.000 Hi.

02:18:08.000 Hey guys, how's it going?

02:18:10.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:18:11.000 Right on.

02:18:11.000 If you're calling in.

02:18:12.000 Yeah, so you guys were talking about the replacement of homeless people in the cities and stuff like that and all that.

02:18:24.000 And from my point of view here in Michigan, I'm seeing it from a different, like a higher level. 1.00

02:18:30.000 We've always said that Muslims and stuff play the long game. 1.00

02:18:35.000 And in my view, I see it that way. 1.00

02:18:39.000 You look at where the coagulation of.

02:18:42.000 Illegal immigration is kind of existing.

02:18:44.000 Dearborn, which was known to be the hub for Ford and Henry Ford and all that, and Hamtramck, where they're doing the manufacturing.

02:18:56.000 Do you guys think that they want people to get frustrated and leave the state so that it is the replacement?

02:19:04.000 Yes.

02:19:05.000 Absolutely. 0.94

02:19:06.000 I mean, and they win more political power.

02:19:06.000 Yeah.

02:19:08.000 Yeah.

02:19:08.000 We literally had Keir Starmer.

02:19:09.000 I know it's Britain, but we had Keir Starmer come out and he's like, any British people that are unhappy with the sort of, for like a better word, demographic upheaval occurring, leave.

02:19:17.000 He literally just lost.

02:19:18.000 How do we bring all of like the Sargon of Akkad's over here?

02:19:22.000 Connor Tomlinson.

02:19:24.000 Trump should be like, free passports, permanent residency right off the bat.

02:19:24.000 Yeah.

02:19:28.000 You're British and you love Britain.

02:19:30.000 Yeah, I think it's only been used once, but there is in the refugee system, like the restructuring the Trump administration took, is that any European dissident could claim asylum in the United States.

02:19:40.000 One of the challenges is those superstars that are truly in it for their country.

02:19:44.000 They don't want to leave their country.

02:19:45.000 They want to stay on.

02:19:46.000 Connor told me, like, there's not an instance where he doesn't die in Britain.

02:19:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:19:50.000 So it's pretty much what Sargon said when he was here.

02:19:53.000 Similar answer.

02:19:53.000 Yeah.

02:19:54.000 I know I want to recruit them, but I'm like, I think I shouldn't. 0.95

02:19:56.000 I don't want to drain my friends in their other countries.

02:20:00.000 Yeah, I'm actually not.

02:20:01.000 I think it's.

02:20:02.000 I think it's so much harder to win background than it is, obviously, to seed ground.

02:20:06.000 So it's like, why?

02:20:08.000 You know, why seed Britain?

02:20:10.000 I mean, like, that's our ancestral homeland for like heritage Americans for a variety of reasons.

02:20:14.000 It's just like, and in many ways, the British are actually in a slightly better position than we are in some instances.

02:20:19.000 Well, well, well, I got to find out.

02:20:20.000 Why vacate territory?

02:20:22.000 It's technically correct to say it's our homeland because the colonies were under the rule of the crown, but these colonies were built by a bunch of different Europeans, like New York was New Amsterdam.

02:20:31.000 So the Dutch came and settled here, and then the British came. 0.60

02:20:34.000 Took control of it. 0.64

02:20:35.000 And Quebec was also British, and that we should own. 0.99

02:20:39.000 Agreed. 0.91

02:20:40.000 Canada.

02:20:40.000 Well, yeah.

02:20:41.000 Yeah, I mean, there were other groups, but like it was like 98%.

02:20:44.000 At the time of independence, it was like 98% like the founding stock of America, right?

02:20:50.000 It was the Dutch.

02:20:51.000 The Dutch had to similar.

02:20:52.000 Like Martin Van Buren was the only president in American history that English wasn't his first language.

02:20:57.000 It was Dutch, but no one at the time, and in a time with serious sectarianism, no one at the time viewed him as like not part of the core founding stock.

02:21:04.000 They were considering having German.

02:21:06.000 To be our official language.

02:21:08.000 I was in the Van Buren boys when I was a teenager.

02:21:12.000 Let's go.

02:21:12.000 Nice.

02:21:13.000 Does anybody know that reference?

02:21:14.000 No, what is it?

02:21:15.000 Seinfeld, the Van Buren boys.

02:21:18.000 Don't you remember that?

02:21:19.000 The gang?

02:21:20.000 George?

02:21:20.000 Who was that?

02:21:20.000 That was the gang they formed?

02:21:22.000 Yeah, it was this ongoing joke that he joined the Van Buren boys.

02:21:26.000 George did?

02:21:26.000 Yeah, George.

02:21:27.000 That's what George would do.

02:21:28.000 He was the Van Buren boys.

02:21:29.000 Nice.

02:21:30.000 Is there anything else you want to add to that?

02:21:31.000 You know, carry on the conversation, sir?

02:21:34.000 Yeah, I'd just say it all looks very intentional and strategic manufacturing hubs, the means of production, all that, you know.

02:21:43.000 And I'm just hoping people wake up and see it for what it is.

02:21:50.000 These people are here to occupy. 1.00

02:21:53.000 I mean, my old house that I grew up with is occupied by three Chinese families just outside of Detroit, you know. 1.00

02:22:01.000 And.

02:22:03.000 And so that's my point of view.

02:22:04.000 And I would like to shout out a fundraiser campaign going on for a farm rescue here in Michigan called Mitten Misfits.

02:22:15.000 It's mittenmisfits.org.

02:22:18.000 And they're doing a telethon all week long trying to raise money on WILX Channel 10, making an impact.

02:22:28.000 So we're trying to help the growth community using farm animals and influence kids.

02:22:34.000 To get out and help take care of the animals and learn some hard work ethic.

02:22:41.000 But no, thanks for having me on.

02:22:43.000 I appreciate it.

02:22:43.000 Yeah, man.

02:22:44.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:22:45.000 Thank you, dude.

02:22:46.000 Next up, we've got T Baggin' Elite.

02:22:49.000 What a name.

02:22:50.000 How's it going, everybody?

02:22:52.000 I am back.

02:22:53.000 And good to see you, the Night of Narcan, Kevin.

02:22:56.000 Love your work, dude.

02:22:57.000 Thank you for trying to save people out on the streets.

02:22:59.000 Not just trying, succeeding in a lot of places.

02:22:59.000 Thanks, brother.

02:23:03.000 So I have a silly question to lighten the mood because we're in some dark times covering some dark topics tonight. 0.67

02:23:09.000 Do any of you hope that aliens will come to straighten out Earth's bullshit to bring us into the Galactic Federation? 0.94

02:23:15.000 Yes. 0.99

02:23:16.000 Or do you think they're going to say screw this planet and annihilate the vast majority of us?

02:23:20.000 Hopefully, starting with the government first.

02:23:22.000 No, not an already human.

02:23:24.000 Aliens right now are on their planet, and there's this one alien sitting around a table, and he's talking like this into a microphone going, The chips on Earth are in a civil war, and I don't mean the ones in Africa, I mean the humans.

02:23:39.000 And then they all laugh.

02:23:40.000 Yeah, I think they view us as like the North Sentinelese.

02:23:42.000 They're like, oh, look, we sent down a craft and they're like poking it with a stick.

02:23:46.000 How funny is that?

02:23:50.000 I think they're here.

02:23:51.000 That's so funny.

02:23:52.000 They're so quirky over there.

02:23:54.000 They're inside us, the aliens.

02:23:55.000 They're controlling us.

02:23:56.000 They're vying for control of our bodies like demons and angels, but they're like these high frequency personas.

02:24:02.000 They're here right now.

02:24:03.000 They're involved with this in this room.

02:24:06.000 How annoying would it be if we did find all these alien civilizations and they're all just like basically the same as humans?

02:24:11.000 They're not cool or green or anything.

02:24:13.000 They're just like.

02:24:14.000 They look like us as well.

02:24:15.000 I don't know why they've always believed we are not the center of the universe.

02:24:18.000 It's ridiculous to think, with how incredibly small Earth is in an infinite universe, that there isn't other intelligent life. 0.94

02:24:26.000 That's ridiculous. 0.87

02:24:28.000 Of course, there is. 0.98

02:24:29.000 It's just so obscenely far away.

02:24:32.000 We have not reached that level of technology to ever discover it.

02:24:36.000 But they, if the universe truly is billions of years old, they are far more advanced.

02:24:42.000 Yeah.

02:24:42.000 And they, It's why wouldn't they be observing us and we wouldn't have the even understanding of it?

02:24:49.000 It's like a person with an ant farm.

02:24:52.000 They'll definitely find us.

02:24:53.000 They'll never understand what's truly going on. 0.90

02:24:55.000 And you know what they say is that if the aliens arrived to Earth before their landing craft touches the ground, the Chinese would already have a few recipes. 0.99

02:25:04.000 Because they eat aliens. 0.99

02:25:05.000 My wife is Chinese. 1.00

02:25:06.000 You have no idea how accurate that actually is. 1.00

02:25:10.000 Hungry.

02:25:11.000 No, she's from Fuzhou, China.

02:25:13.000 But yeah, I agree with you, Tate.

02:25:15.000 I don't want them to look like humans. 0.96

02:25:16.000 I want to meet Bleep Blork, not fucking, hi, I'm Steve from, you know, Tiberius 5. 0.95

02:25:23.000 I think the aliens want us to succeed and come together and form a galactic civilization. 0.95

02:25:29.000 They seem to want that, which is why they say good triumphs over evil and why for.

02:25:34.000 Tens of thousands of years, we've actually come together as a species and have built an internet to communicate via telephone in real time with people.

02:25:41.000 They're probably laughing their asses off that we're now just discussing a moon base.

02:25:44.000 They might test us.

02:25:45.000 And to them, they think that's so ridiculously small innovation.

02:25:50.000 They might test us by bringing down space cash, like trying to see what, you know, if we'll give it away, what we'll do with it, or we'll come back and ask for it.

02:26:00.000 Mr. Beast Day.

02:26:01.000 Wasn't that a South Park episode?

02:26:03.000 Yes.

02:26:04.000 Did what happen?

02:26:05.000 Pinewood Derby.

02:26:07.000 Maybe FARC's beating snacks.

02:26:08.000 What did you say, Kevin?

02:26:09.000 You said something cool.

02:26:10.000 I was looking at the door.

02:26:12.000 I said something cool.

02:26:13.000 Yeah, something about aliens doing something.

02:26:14.000 Oh, the moon thing.

02:26:15.000 You missed it, dude.

02:26:16.000 Well, just like if, you know, since aliens very likely exist, they're laughing their asses off that we're now just talking about a moon base.

02:26:24.000 To them, they're thinking this is so ridiculously small and means nothing in the greater scheme of things.

02:26:31.000 They're probably like, bro, they have all the equipment they need.

02:26:34.000 Why aren't they beating the level? 0.83

02:26:36.000 They're like, what the fuck are they wasting time fighting hordes for and fighting each other and like, Bro, you have all the equipment. 0.90

02:26:41.000 Just do it. 0.97

02:26:43.000 Wait till they see Instagram Reels and then they'll understand.

02:26:46.000 They'll be like, oh, this is awesome.

02:26:46.000 Right.

02:26:48.000 Because the other aliens had.

02:26:49.000 We could be watching Reels.

02:26:51.000 Yeah, there's other aliens trying to stop us from creating a galactic system.

02:26:56.000 Do you know how hard it is being on IRL and I can't watch Instagram Reels?

02:27:00.000 Are you tempted? 0.98

02:27:01.000 Dude, like a crack addict. 0.91

02:27:03.000 I just don't look at it. 0.84

02:27:03.000 Oh, dude. 0.84

02:27:04.000 I do look at the phone.

02:27:05.000 I was going to lie to you and say that I don't.

02:27:07.000 I do a quick Twitter session about three or four times or not.

02:27:07.000 I try not to, though.

02:27:10.000 Do you doom scroll at night?

02:27:11.000 Oh, at night, yeah.

02:27:12.000 You just go in bed or you like.

02:27:15.000 Yeah.

02:27:15.000 Oh, I hate that.

02:27:16.000 I try and get out of it.

02:27:17.000 I stick my tongue out and everything.

02:27:18.000 Yeah.

02:27:20.000 You want anything or shout anything out?

02:27:23.000 The only thing that I will add is, Ian, the next time you get a chance to go traveling, you have to get a hold of me through the Discord and come down to Texas because I still need to build a Timcast themed base for y'all.

02:27:36.000 And I'm building a five stream next.

02:27:38.000 So you should do that.

02:27:40.000 But as far as shout outs, once again, shout out to Kevin for doing the Lord's work, saving people.

02:27:45.000 And shout out to the Discord for being awesome.

02:27:47.000 And I'd like to shout out my YouTube channel if you want to check out any of my guitar builds or songs that I'm working on.

02:27:53.000 It's the same as my name here, just Teabagging Elite on YouTube.

02:27:56.000 I'm going to start uploading to Rumble soon.

02:27:59.000 So you'll be able to find me there as well.

02:28:01.000 Right on.

02:28:01.000 Awesome.

02:28:01.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:28:02.000 Thanks, dude.

02:28:03.000 Thanks, man.

02:28:03.000 Thank you, dude.

02:28:04.000 Catch y'all later.

02:28:04.000 All right.

02:28:05.000 I want that bass.

02:28:06.000 Next up, we've got Stocks Family Farm.

02:28:09.000 What's going on?

02:28:10.000 What up?

02:28:11.000 What up?

02:28:12.000 What's going on, baby?

02:28:13.000 Good morning, everybody.

02:28:14.000 Um.

02:28:16.000 Without getting into too much detail, I'm going to say I'm on the Oregon coast.

02:28:22.000 I'm in Coos Bay.

02:28:24.000 And my dad is currently homeless.

02:28:28.000 He's been homeless for the last five years here in Oregon.

02:28:32.000 And they've been shifting him around from city to city.

02:28:35.000 Every time he starts to get a leg up, they move into another city.

02:28:40.000 And they ship the homeless from Portland and Eugene.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 16, 2026

Democrats CHARGE ICE Agent Over MN Confrontation, IT HAS BEGUN | Timcast IRL

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