On Friday, the Washington Post dropped a bombshell report alleging that House Democrats were texting with Jeffrey Epstein during hearings in 2019. Now, this is a big deal and we re going to get into that, actually, on the Jesse Water show today.
00:01:25.000On Friday, the Washington Post dropped a bombshell report alleging that House Democrats were texting with Jeffrey Epstein during hearings in 2019.
00:01:35.000Now, this is a big deal, and we're going to get into that.
00:01:38.000Actually, Tim Poole is going to be talking about that on Jesse Water show today.
00:01:43.000So, when Tim goes on live with Jesse, we're going to jump to that.
00:01:47.000But right now, we're going to go ahead and get right to the introduction.
00:01:49.000So, tonight, joining us, we've got Andy Schooner.
00:02:40.000Jeffrey Epstein was feeding questions to rep Stacey Plaskett during a 2019 congressional hearing and giving her real-time help on how to damage President Trump's reputation.
00:02:51.000The text, first reported by the Washington Post, show the convicted pedophile pontificating with Plaskett during a February 27, 2019 House Oversight Committee hearing in which the then former president's ex-attorney Michael Cohen testified about Trump's alleged payments to Mistress to silence stories before the 2016 election.
00:03:11.000Trump has vehemently denied all allegations.
00:03:14.000In the text, Epstein appeared to be watching on television while Cohen brought up former Trump executive assistant Rhonda Graff in his testimony.
00:03:32.000Is that an acronym she added, suggesting she'd grill Cohen soon?
00:03:35.000That's his assistant, Epstein replied.
00:03:37.000So if this is, I mean, obviously there's evidence to show this.
00:03:43.000You know, I'm wondering, like, do you guys feel like this is actually going to be a big issue that's going to move the needle on the whole Epstein situation?
00:03:55.000Or do you think that this is just going to be some kind of flash in the pan?
00:04:16.000I mean, I mean, look, if they had dirt on Trump on the Epstein thing, the fact that they would like wait till, what, a month or a few weeks after an election to drop it?
00:04:25.000Shane, what does this do to the allegations that Trump and Epstein were actually friends and that Trump was doing terrible things on the island?
00:04:33.000Because that's the narrative that the Democrats have been trying to spin ever since Donald Trump took office again for a second term.
00:04:40.000They didn't pay attention at all to any of the Epstein allegations for the entire four years that President Biden was in office.
00:04:48.000But as soon as Trump gets back into office, the Democrats seem to think that this is one of the most important things going.
00:05:04.000So everything can be fabricated if you want it to be fabricated or really is fabricated.
00:05:08.000So it really doesn't move the needle on anyone, unfortunately, one way or the other.
00:05:13.000I think there's a lot of other things with the Epstein story that people should be talking about.
00:05:15.000I still want a lot of accountability for people like Bill Barr, his situation with that.
00:05:20.000You know, still want to know why he got a sweetheart deal, why Epstein got a sweetheart deal in prison, all these things, his intelligent asset with Israel and with the CIA.
00:05:29.000I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's out there right now.
00:05:31.000You can look up with a, you know, him being an asset.
00:05:45.000But again, you can look at those emails and say, well, I don't believe those emails.
00:05:48.000But we do know through photographs that the former prime minister Ehud Barak of Israel was hanging out there and he had an asset living with him in Manhattan.
00:05:55.000And the emails, if you want to believe them, show them going to Epstein for help for things like overthrowing Assad.
00:06:02.000There's also things of him helping Israel looking into what to do with Mongolia.
00:06:06.000So there's a lot of other stuff here that I think we should be talking about.
00:06:09.000Why was he so deeply entrenched with intelligence agencies, agencies around the world, not just here, not just Israel, also in Europe?
00:06:16.000Same thing as his father-in-law or Ghelane Maxwell's father was doing, you know, before he passed away, oddly.
00:06:22.000So those are the things I really want to talk about that no one seems to be talking about enough, and the government doesn't seem too interested in, probably because they know how deeply entrenched he was.
00:06:38.000Do you guys think that the reason why people are paying attention to Donald Trump and Epstein or the goings-on that were alleged to have happened at the island between powerful people?
00:06:49.000Do you think they're paying attention to that?
00:06:51.000Because that's the most salacious stuff.
00:06:52.000And the actual substantive stuff, like his involvement, until you mentioned it, I didn't know that anyone had ever inquired about Mongolia with Epstein.
00:07:02.000Do you think that the reason is because it's salacious and it gets eyes?
00:07:05.000Or do you think that it's because, or do you think that that's why they don't go after the other topics because they just don't have the same kind of probably both.
00:07:16.000I think there's people who want to uncover and get accountability for minors that were abused by this evil network that seems to be entrenched all around the world.
00:07:53.000People trust their children with priests, you know, because, oh, a priest wouldn't do this.
00:07:57.000You hear about school schools because people have to send their kids to school.
00:08:01.000And so, you know, well, you know, schools are supposed to be safe places.
00:08:05.000There's also a lot of people that talk about summer camps and camp counselors and stuff.
00:08:09.000And that's because predators will go to where the access is as opposed to there's something unique about whether it be churches or schools or camps.
00:08:20.000It's not that these places attract, it's not that these places produce predators.
00:08:26.000It's that predators go to these places because that's weird access.
00:08:29.000And that's maybe why he was involved in all this, what I believe was blackmail situations, you know, and then even that's a narrative that's been being picked apart lately.
00:08:38.000But, okay, if you want to go down the route of hurting children, these weird, like transhumanist things that Epstein was doing, like, why didn't we uncover more of Zoro Ranch?
00:08:46.000He had a whole situation out in Arizona, New Mexico.
00:09:06.000And when it comes to the political things that he was doing that really involve what we can call the deep state, I think it's a harder thing for people to digest.
00:09:15.000Even though we're talking about like this rampant pedophilia network, we've been talking about that part of the story for like 10 years now.
00:09:22.000When it comes to what he was doing with like Assad possibly and Israel or hanging out with Ehud Barak and all his, you know, he obviously had friends within this government and in Harvard and weird science things, you know, not Harvey Weinstein, one of the Eric Weinstein at Harvard talking about, or MIT, you know, why did he have access to a lot of weird science situations, learning about these weird, like, I think anti-gravity stuff.
00:09:48.000But it's a much harder thing, I think, to understand that a lot of different intelligence agencies are going to a person and or network to try to pull the strings around the world.
00:09:58.000You know, because it sounds crazy to some people.
00:10:00.000But we unfortunately in our own history in America, we have a long history of that very thing, whether it's Operation Northwoods, Gladio, NATO possibly being behind the scenes of the years of lead, which was a lot of political false flag violence in Italy.
00:10:16.000We still don't really know who killed JFK.
00:10:19.000We don't, you know, there's a guy in Sirhan Sorhan, they say, killed RFK, but RFK Jr. doesn't even believe Sirhan Sirhan was that assassin.
00:10:29.000So we had this long history of these weird things that are happening, that have happened.
00:10:33.000And I think a lot of people, it's hard for them to digest that that is the reality.
00:10:37.000That the reality is unfortunate that our government has been weaponized against us and they do use these bad actors.
00:10:42.000Well, and beyond, I think like the Epstein stuff, people are just blackbilled on it.
00:10:45.000Cause like the only time it ever actually makes headlines is when one party is using it to weaponize against the other.
00:10:50.000Like American politics in 2025 is just each party posting a picture with the other party's leader with Epstein.
00:11:00.000So it's like, yeah, people are just blackbilled on it.
00:11:02.000People are fatigued from the news cycle.
00:11:03.000I mean, this has been in the zeitgeist now for like eight, nine years.
00:11:08.000People like this is, I mean, it's the same thing that happened to the shutdown.
00:11:10.000It's like such a magnitude, but I don't know.
00:11:13.000There's so much churn in the news cycle.
00:11:15.000There's so much insanity happening that people just get fatigued really quickly and they lose interest.
00:11:19.000I mean, that's just kind of the unfortunate reality.
00:11:21.000Like you're saying with the Epstein stuff, I mean, just a bit of probing, we could really uncover some pretty dramatic things that would upturn our society.
00:11:27.000But yeah, like the only time it ever makes the headlines is just when a party is using it, primarily these days, using it against Trump.
00:11:34.000I mean, like, again, it's totally, why don't we know about Epstein's final phone call he made in prison?
00:11:41.000He said he was making it to his mother, right?
00:11:44.000And we found out he was actually calling his girlfriend at the time.
00:12:48.000You know, Marjorie Taylor Green, I think, is now being primaried with Trump's support because of her, you know, moaning and groaning about the list on X.
00:12:57.000And so it's not just party against other party, it's party within party now.
00:13:01.000And so that's a very strange thing has happened over the last week that I don't think really anybody has a good understanding of why did why did Trump flip all of a sudden and release the list?
00:13:11.000I think because he likes to market test and he sees that there was an up 12 being like, all right, we actually do want the list.
00:13:16.000I actually don't think he's reading the base a little bit.
00:13:21.000I don't believe there is a list anymore.
00:13:22.000Like, I think there's nothing they could release that's going to change anyone's life.
00:13:25.000At that point, there was, what was it, a couple months ago, they had some of the alleged victims saying that, oh, well, we're going to make our own list.
00:13:36.000And it makes me wonder: is this just a situation where people use this, the threat of a list?
00:13:44.000Is it just a means to get attention for themselves or to leverage people because no one really knows what is on the list if the list exists?
00:13:54.000Because maybe the list doesn't actually, like a secretive list doesn't actually exist.
00:14:03.000Well, even Elon was on the list for a while, but it was a string of texts or something that was like, is Elon still coming or something like that?
00:14:55.000But that's, I mean, to the point, though, I think that the fact that lists exist or if there are lists that exist, I think that a lot of people are just like, I don't want that to come out because I don't want my name associated with Epstein.
00:15:20.000The point that I'm making is, you know, if you're, if you've had any kind of dealing with Epstein and a list comes out and your name's on it, the people like to your point earlier, the people that believe that he has done, that, you know, they have done something wrong, they're going to believe that you also did something wrong, right?
00:15:38.000If you're of the opinion that Jeffrey Epstein and anyone Jeffrey Epstein knew was party to illicit behavior, well, then that's a strong incentive to not want any kind of list to come out.
00:15:50.000Tim's made like a variation of this point: with both parties, with both candidates, their war chests, there's probably lots of funding that's coming from people that even if they didn't do anything illegal, they would be on that list and be embarrassing, et cetera, et cetera.
00:16:02.000So it's like, look, if you're trying to be pragmatic, if you are trying to operate an overhaul of the political system, you don't want to have to deal with this on the side because like the thing about Epstein is it's a very online thing.
00:16:13.000And my evidence for this is that Fox News rarely covers it.
00:16:16.000And Fox News is where the majority of the base is sort of getting their information from.
00:16:21.000And this is why there was that disconnect earlier in the year when Bondi and Trump came out and they're like, why do people even care about this?
00:16:26.000Because in their world, people don't really care about it.
00:17:01.000And considering the emails that got leaked in the past couple of weeks that turned out to be a nothing burger, well, actually, it turned out to backfire on these Democrats.
00:17:11.000We're now learning that it was Virginia Duffrey who was listed in these emails who had already said Trump had done nothing wrong.
00:17:17.000We're learning that a journalist was colluding with Epstein for positive PR.
00:17:22.000It sounds like, you know, let's be honest, I don't think we're going to get a lot out of these.
00:17:26.000I think if there were documents, they're probably long gone.
00:17:29.000I think there are powerful interests that are probably concerned they'll be made to look bad.
00:17:33.000But I do think it's a big distraction, and Democrats are getting caught up in something.
00:17:38.000Some have suggested Trump is doing this on purpose.
00:18:38.000We make all of our products in America.
00:18:40.000And I know what it means for an industry to outsource those jobs.
00:18:44.000And I agree with these tariffs because it's been a godsend for the manufacturing in this country, real Americans to get work to benefit our culture.
00:18:53.000And when I look at Democrats, what are they talking about?
00:18:55.000They've got Mamdani talking about free buses and faster buses.
00:19:54.000And when it comes to what the Republicans have to offer, we have wasted a little time on the old Epstein debacle, but maybe that's just political strategy.
00:20:01.000I got to be honest, I look at the Democrats, and with the future of the party being AOC and Momdani, they don't have anything tangible to offer.
00:20:08.000In fact, I'm seeing reporting now that Staten Island wants to secede from New York City because Mamdani does not have the confidence of even his own city.
00:20:16.000So I can look at Trump and I can understand tariffs.
00:20:19.000I can understand these tax policies, these dividends, they make sense.
00:20:24.000I don't see anything on the Democrat side, unfortunately.
00:20:27.000You know, the only thing that AOC and Mondani have going for them, they've never been on Epstein's plan.
00:20:34.000Everything else, they got a lot of problems.
00:20:43.000Breaking news on wannabe Trump assassin Thomas Crook, right?
00:20:49.000The Epstein stuff gets a lot of eyes, and there's a small group of people that are extremely motivated by it and extremely interested in talking about it and stuff.
00:21:01.000But at the end of the day, the midterms, they're going to be decided by the cost of groceries.
00:21:07.000They're going to be decided by whether people feel like the economy is doing well.
00:21:12.000Do you guys feel like the Republicans have any hope of fixing that?
00:21:25.000And I still talk to people in the real world who think the idea of the deep state is an issue.
00:21:30.000After watching Trump nearly just barely survive that assassination attempt, seeing all this deep state work against him with lawfare and a lot of people voting for Agenda 47, which in part was to dismantle the deep state, I think people, of course, want an economy that can afford to feed their kids, but they also want to find a way to stop weaponizing the federal government against us.
00:21:53.000It's my belief that all that stuff is only important when people feel like they can pay the bills.
00:22:02.000It's like a, this sounds bad, but it's like a luxury belief in some ways.
00:22:05.000It's like when things are going really well, then you can start hashing these things out.
00:22:08.000But like the thing with the Epstein thing, with it being kind of an online thing, is, yeah, the only time it's ever deployed is when it's being weaponized against people.
00:22:18.000And yeah, I mean, like, look, the things that Trump has ran on that delivered his victory in 2016 was like immigration, reshoring manufacturing.
00:22:26.000Like these are all, that's always going to be the bread and butter issues for Americans.
00:22:31.000And it's like, yeah, the Epstein thing, it's obviously horrific and people want to see it addressed, but it's kind of a niche issue.
00:22:37.000People online don't realize this, but it really is.
00:22:39.000Like it's not, like, for example, in earlier in the year when the Trump Bond debacle happened, they didn't actually take, Trump didn't really take a big hit in the polls and the approval rating.
00:22:50.000And that's just evidence that's like, look, the vast majority of Americans aren't really online.
00:22:53.000They're not really tapped into online discourse at a super high level.
00:22:56.000They maybe they scroll their feeds, but like Twitter, I think the average or the 10% of Twitter is driven, or sorry, 90% of Twitter is driven by 10% of people.
00:23:05.000And then Twitter is like a fraction of the population.
00:23:07.000So it's like the amount of Americans that like their approval of Trump is dependent on how he handles the Epstein thing.
00:23:12.000Like a very, very small proportion of the base.
00:24:03.000Thomas Matthew Crooks went by they them on DeviantArt linked accounts reveal furry fetish.
00:24:11.000Crooks was not simply some unknowable lone actor.
00:24:14.000He left a digital trail of violent threats, extremist ideology, and admiration for mass violence.
00:24:20.000So this is apparently coming from Tucker Carlson's report that he said, you know, we were told by the FBI, this was from his report, that he didn't have much of an online footprint.
00:24:31.000The FBI pushed back when Tucker Carlson said, why were they withholding this from us?
00:24:35.000And they said, you know, we never said he didn't have a footprint, but why didn't we know this when this happened?
00:24:41.000The narrative we were led to believe was that this guy may have been just mentally ill or even potentially right-leaning.
00:24:48.000Now we're getting information that this guy had a flip, became lefty, tried to kill Donald Trump, and it's fitting into this pattern we've seen of these gender ideologue and furry aligned shooters, strangely, just like this is the narrative we're hearing around the Charlie Kirk assassination as well.
00:25:06.000And there's been a handful of mass shootings that have been perpetrated by transgender individuals.
00:25:10.000It seems strange that this information was withheld from us.
00:25:14.000I'm wondering if this was a Biden cover-up.
00:25:17.000I'm not sure that I have a, well, I mean, it completely could be a Biden cover-up.
00:25:22.000I hadn't really put a whole lot of thought into that.
00:25:24.000I do think that it's worth noting that the people that will say, oh, this is something that's unique to the trans community or whatever.
00:25:33.000I think that this is actually an indication that there's so many people in the trans community that are actually mentally ill.
00:25:39.000Like, I don't think that the trans is what's causing it.
00:25:41.000I think the mental illness is causing the transness.
00:25:44.000And then you've got people that are willing to commit violent acts based on their mental illness.
00:25:48.000I somewhat disagree because I've been talking about this earlier.
00:25:53.000And if it was just that, you'd see this in a variety of different ideologies.
00:25:56.000But for some reason, we have this pattern of, what is it, like six or seven shootings in the past year or two that have been involved in the specifically gender ideology sect of things.
00:26:06.000Certainly, if someone was just mentally ill or disordered, they could find themselves in a whole plethora of various weird online fetishes and ideologies.
00:26:15.000These people we end up seeing are particularly in one ideology.
00:26:20.000So I wonder if that means it is the online trans community that is particularly in favor of violence.
00:26:27.000And perhaps because the Democrat messaging on it has been so strong.
00:26:51.000There's all kinds of leftists that say things like defend trans because they're that shirt.
00:26:56.000Defend trans kids with a knife and a rose on it or whatever.
00:27:00.000I think that the reason they're or part of the reason that they're violent is because they're told that they are under attack.
00:27:06.000Well, and beyond that, like the thing with the trans ideology is destruction is built into it because that is how you participate in the ideology is you destroy your own body, you cut yourself up, et cetera, et cetera.
00:27:16.000So naturally that's going to manifest in violence because the violence is part of the ideology.
00:27:22.000Like what happens when you become really right-wing?
00:27:23.000You start like lifting and like reading philosophy.
00:27:26.000Like it's just these sorts of things are just downstream from the effect.
00:27:28.000So it's like, yeah, when an entire ideology is built around like destroying your own body, naturally that's going to ripple out and you start destroying.
00:27:35.000It's an ideology of destruction fundamentally.
00:27:42.000So I got a list here of some DSM-5 mental disorders, of which the obvious one is gender dysphoria, which links to gender ideology.
00:27:50.000There's some degree of overlap with the furry stuff, which is just online fetish stuff.
00:27:54.000I actually think gender dysphoria is not the mental disorder being suffered by many of these individuals that are community shootings or murders.
00:28:04.000I think there's some other kind of dissociative disorder where they adopt an online identity to themselves.
00:28:10.000So you have these communities that are particularly violent, leftist, and they also happen to have gender ideology within them.
00:28:16.000I think what we're likely seeing is somebody who is suffering some kind of mental illness finds, let's say, five or six online communities.
00:28:24.000One of them dominates and imprints those views on them.
00:28:29.000And that's why there are these overlaps.
00:28:31.000Because there are a lot of people with gender dysphoria that probably aren't even necessarily trans.
00:28:38.000Like they may have gender dysphoria, but they don't do anything about it.
00:28:41.000They just keep it private, say nothing.
00:28:44.000Some we know who are trans and literally don't do anything.
00:28:47.000When I see these patterns, I'm like, there is something about, there is some kind of mental illness where you are easily manipulated by online psychotic content or whatever that creates this sect of people who end up going nuts.
00:29:01.000Because the reason I say this is that this Matthew Crooks guy, this Thomas Nathan Crooks guy, had like a flip.
00:29:07.000Like his politics went one way and then it kind of switched to the other.
00:29:10.000Seeming like the issue I would say then is the ability to be influenced by aggressive online ideologies.
00:29:17.000Well, I think like, I don't think it's a mental illness.
00:29:20.000I think it's just young people in modern society are just naturally disassociated by default because they're completely deracinated.
00:29:26.000They're stripped of all identity when they're born.
00:29:29.000Like your identities that you're assigned at birth, like you're going to be a husband, you're going to be a father, you're going to be a son, a brother, a Christian, an American.
00:29:36.000All those things are disassociated because modern society, the only ideology or the only identity that is imparted on you is to be a consumer.
00:29:42.000So like, I don't think it's mental illness.
00:29:44.000I think they're just naturally disassociated.
00:29:51.000I had asked mental health experts, what would it be called if a person, not through dysfunction of the mind or body, but through conditioning, came to believe things that were not true.
00:30:03.000And they said that would be delusional disorder.
00:30:06.000That would be a mental illness or a mental disorder.
00:30:09.000And the interesting thing is your brain works perfectly fine.
00:30:13.000You get lied to and they say you're delusional.
00:30:17.000The reason that's scary is, well, one, I agree that's probably what we're seeing with these individuals.
00:30:22.000People of otherwise sound mind who, if they were in a normal town with lovely married couples walking with their children and the milkman, you know, driving his truck down the street and the butcher selling bacon, he would identify with those things and that would be their personality.
00:30:39.000But I wonder if the real issue is you take any person, isolate them, plug them into these online communities, and that's what they become.
00:30:47.000The scary thing is what then happens to all of human society as we keep going in this direction of social media.
00:30:54.000Because young people are all impressionable.
00:30:57.000It's just a matter of who's delivering the impressions, your community, your surroundings, like how people typically matriculated, or is it going to be online?
00:31:05.000Do you become a right-wing influencer or do you become this?
00:31:08.000I also think this community in particular, as isolated as they are and mentally ill, they're susceptible to this being radicalized into being violent.
00:31:18.000And it reminds me of the 764 cult I talked about in the show a few times.
00:31:22.000You know, and Cash recently announced arrests for the 764 cult.
00:31:25.000And a lot of things they do is different types of people behind the scenes on the other side of the computer find ways to radicalize these people and make them do real world violence.
00:31:51.000And so, it's like a matter of channeling them into a productive, you know, force that's going to be revolutionary.
00:31:58.000Or oftentimes it gets channeled into this, but that's just like a very natural.
00:32:01.000There's two things that are very natural to young people: A, they're impressionable, and B, they have this mentality they're going to change the world.
00:32:06.000So, they take on, naturally, they just take on radical ideologies.
00:32:09.000That's been the case throughout history.
00:32:11.000And the Crooks thing is still weird to me.
00:32:12.000I'm still like shocked that Trump said he was satisfied with whatever report he got about it because there are so many weird inconsistencies.
00:32:18.000And strange coincidences, he was training at the same shooting range as the Department of Homeland Security.
00:32:54.000And I'd be willing to bet if the truth ever did come out on like the Crooks stuff and why all this weird stuff happened and, you know, other just weird stuff relating to Epstein, it's probably something that we never even thought of.
00:34:14.000I don't have to get into the whole, it's an ancient entity that we've rediscovered, but I do feel like it's an algorithm that's been in charge.
00:34:20.000You know, the AI stuff freaks me out more than basically everything.
00:35:07.000Well, I think the reason why we're seeing all the discourse just centered around talking about other people is just because society has become very feminized.
00:35:15.000And like naturally, men talk about ideas and philosophy and women talk about other people.
00:35:19.000And that's just, there's benefits to that.
00:35:21.000But this is what we're seeing: it's just much more convenient and conducive for society just to discuss other people because everything's all day.
00:35:28.000This was actually on, I don't know if you guys watch the Jesse Waters intro, but as I'm sitting in the van waiting to do the show, he's talking about the difference between men and women.
00:35:36.000And he showed this funny clip where guys are trying to watch a game at a bar and some female politician is blowing bubbles everywhere and the women are like dancing and hooting.
00:35:44.000And it's just like, yeah, men and women are very, very different.
00:35:49.000There is something to be said about like the people that are driving these narratives for the most part are podcasters and podcast space is largely male dominated.
00:35:59.000So you've got guys that are even on the right that are ostensibly some form of masculine, but they're still engaging in this stuff.
00:36:07.000So I don't think that it's just, I don't think that it's just feminine.
00:36:10.000I think that it's that it's a lot of it is just profit driven, which I think is driven by what will get the clicks.
00:36:15.000But like oftentimes like people will say like, oh, like the media is like, oh, Joe Rogan is this, they're like extremist ideology.
00:36:20.000And then you tune in and he's just like, what if red meant go and green meant something?
00:36:50.000The Overton window is shifted so far to the leftist ideology that to say things that 100 years ago were completely reasonable, now it's like it's verboten.
00:37:03.000Like the idea, like, I'm not for universal enfranchisement, right?
00:37:07.000Like, I think that there should be limits on who can actually vote when it comes to federal elections.
00:37:11.000That is incredibly radical to most people nowadays.
00:37:14.000The idea that everyone shouldn't get, you know, shouldn't be allowed to vote.
00:37:18.000It's like, I mean, look, man, you go outside and everybody you talk to, they're going to say, man, half the people I meet every day are stupid.
00:37:24.000And so why do you want them to vote then?
00:37:25.000Did y'all get to the 2,000 checks yet?
00:37:51.000Trump vowed to issue tariff dividends sometimes for the 26 midterms during an Oval Office event.
00:37:56.000We're going to be issuing dividends later on, somewhere prior to the middle of next year, a little bit later than that, he said, noting it would include thousands of dollars for individuals of moderate income.
00:38:06.000Beset said the payments could come in lots of forms, including just the tax decreases that we are seeing following cuts made in the big, beautiful bill.
00:38:14.000So maybe you actually don't get a check.
00:38:38.000And of course, Luke Beasley, who won't come back on the Culture War IV debate, he's refused because he knows he'll get roasted, engages in sophistry or just lies.
00:38:52.000We're not going to see the job repercussions just yet.
00:38:57.000It's going to take some time to rebuild our manufacturing base.
00:39:01.000But for now, it is good, in my opinion, that we are telling foreign, we're telling American companies, it's going to cost you more money to hire a Chinese or Indonesian laborer than an American worker to bring these jobs back.
00:39:14.000I will stress this, though, because we can split the story to two.
00:39:18.000While Donald Trump is in favor of that, and I like it, he's also a big AI guy, which of course is going to, you can't coexist in this space.
00:39:28.000AI is another industrial revolution that is going to wipe out a massive amount of jobs.
00:39:33.000Plus, you've got the Optimus robot, Elon Musk talking about how the Optimus robot is going to be doing surgery better than the doctor.
00:39:39.000So your high-skilled jobs are going to be wiped out by robots and computers.
00:39:43.000I don't know how these ideologies actually work alongside each other.
00:39:55.000And I'm pro-tariff, but it can't coexist in a pro-data center dystopia where you're sacrificing farmland for all the data centers.
00:40:05.000And it's not like they're going to bring in jobs because even the largest data center in the world only has like 100 employees, 125 employees.
00:40:58.000Not a perfect solution, but in this digital world where services can be done internationally and products can be easily shipped, we need some kind of protectionism, in my opinion.
00:41:08.000That being said, this country is turning into a giant field of black cubes with fake houses around them and no jobs.
00:41:17.000And I wonder if all of these arguments about we got to turn the population crisis around from politicians.
00:41:23.000I wonder if they're just lying because it's a pressure release valve.
00:41:47.000I mean, the argument people will say is, well, we've got to beat China, you know, but it's like, so we destroy ourselves like China's destroying themselves.
00:41:53.000And they'll say, well, it's a beautiful city.
00:41:54.000But I'll be like, okay, well, it's a city built on the social credit system through the AI.
00:43:19.000Yeah, I mean, I just, I have no problem with the tariffs.
00:43:23.000I like the tariffs, which is bringing in revenue.
00:43:25.000I just don't think we should be sending it back to the American people.
00:43:27.000I think we should be taking a look at this huge deficit that we have.
00:43:32.000And unfortunately, the American people are pretty ignorant on basic economics, which is if we continue to print money, that's why grocery prices are so high.
00:43:40.000That's why home prices, I don't know about you guys, I live in Austin.
00:43:43.000Between 2020 and 2024, my home price, the value of my home went up by 100%.
00:44:57.000So the point of the tariffs is to say, if you make the product over there, it'll be more expensive than a product made here.
00:45:03.000How do you then convince a regular old American default label who's not paying attention to these issues to say, trust us in the long term, you will succeed?
00:45:26.000Now, the argument Trump has made on why this is beneficial is we're going to be underleveraged.
00:45:31.000If we can generate more economic activity internally, we can start generating more revenue, tax revenue, just through volume alone and use that to pay down the deficit.
00:45:41.000I will concede, however, Trump ain't doing that unless he gets the spending way down.
00:45:45.000Because Elon tried that, and the guy got kicked out.
00:45:50.000The debt needs to be paid down, and the deficit needs to be reduced.
00:46:07.000I think it's in response to the Supreme Court potentially striking down Trump's authority on the tariffs, which would be catastrophic for this country.
00:46:15.000I believe Trump is 100% correct on this issue.
00:46:17.000And the Supreme Court may say Trump has no authority to do this.
00:46:20.000I think Trump's play here is we need the American people to demand it.
00:46:25.000We want the Supreme Court a holy political body.
00:46:28.000These people, save Thomas and Alito, are cowards.
00:46:32.000And if the American people are demanding it, the Supreme Court's going to say, fine.
00:46:36.000I mean, look at the issue of gay marriage.
00:46:37.000They refuse to even listen to that case, despite the fact on the merits, whatever you think about gay marriage, that was an insane ruling that they made back in, was it 2015 or 14?
00:47:07.000Well, when Trump's trying to conduct long-term policy in a democracy, which is just like pretty much impossible to do.
00:47:12.000I mean, you look at like China, Iran, Russia, for what it's worth, they're able to plan in terms of decades because they're not accountable to voters.
00:47:19.000But the United States, you have to think in terms of like if you're in the House, two years, if you're a senator, six years, president, four years.
00:47:24.000It's like it's impossible to conduct any long-term planning.
00:49:24.000And so if you continue to pump money into the economy and create a larger gap between the wealthy and the poor, you're only going to make the poor people, which are they're far more poor people than there are rich people.
00:49:38.000You're only going to make them more angry.
00:49:40.000And they're going to say, well, then this isn't working.
00:49:42.000We need some kind of new system for our and I will stress this too.
00:49:48.000If this continues long-term, just giving $2,000 dividend checks to poor people, you're going to create wildlife dependency syndrome.
00:49:57.000If you do not feed the bears, they'll become dependent.
00:49:59.000Well, I think we already have, that's like the problem is the Democrats have built out this massive patriot network, and that's how they're able to get fantastic election results in cities.
00:50:07.000And so I think that's all Trump's trying to do here is trying to create a patronage network for Americans.
00:50:10.000Like it's a very radical idea, but that's clearly what he's setting up here.
00:50:31.000But that's where the frustration is coming from, because if you like looked at the discourse around the snap benefits ending, that's getting to the heart of where the real anger is: is that it's the productive Americans versus the unproductive Americans.
00:50:54.000They've been buying these votes for like what, 80 years?
00:50:57.000Like, they've been doing it for a long time.
00:50:59.000And it's like, we're doing it by taking money from corporations that are trying to do business in this country, which is like probably a lot better than printing more of our own money.
00:51:09.000What I'm saying is don't take the tariffs and then give it to the people, but take the tariffs and do it to reduce the deficit so we can stop printing money.
00:51:41.000Let's use that as a tool to deal with that.
00:51:43.000I just disagree with where it's going.
00:51:44.000I just disagree with where it's going.
00:51:46.000I wish they would have let, you know, Elon and them go after it.
00:51:49.000Elon basically came out and said there's no freaking way there's we're going to reduce reduce spending.
00:51:54.000And so I think we're toast on the deficit unless we can do something like this to offset it.
00:51:58.000I think the problem, too, is like there's not much of an appetite among even Republicans now for reducing the deficit because that was what motivated like the Tea Party.
00:52:05.000I mean, this is you don't get votes by reducing the deficit.
00:52:50.000Staten Island wants to secede from the state of New York, from maybe not the state, but the city of New York, because it's a conservative enclave.
00:52:58.000It's relatively smaller or lower in population density, and they don't want to be in a city of communists.
00:53:05.000I would say this: they've had the conversation before.
00:53:12.000Staten Island has been pushing a bill since 2008, seeing little traction.
00:53:16.000But now that it's swung so far left and people are fleeing, even Democrats may agree with this.
00:53:22.000The argument being, if Staten Island leaves, New York City becomes a socialist guarantee.
00:53:28.000You will never get a Republican or independent mayor again.
00:53:32.000Now, I got to be honest, I don't care about all that.
00:53:34.000I mean, it is bad if we have this entrenchment, it's polarization.
00:53:37.000But I believe that if any part of these United States internally wants to secede from their respective jurisdiction and either isolate or join a new one, they should be allowed to do it.
00:53:49.000If Staten Island says we want to be our own city, they should be federally allowed to do it by simple vote.
00:53:54.000There's something really interesting that no one's talking about with the Staten Island thing: if Staten Island were to secede from New York City, it would destroy the FDNY because the fire department in New York, when you're becoming a firefighter, you take like a test and they give you bonus points for living within the five boroughs and that like puts you above everybody else.
00:54:10.000Now, if Staten Island secedes, they lose those bonus points for living in New York City.
00:54:13.000The world's best firefighters are in Staten Island.
00:54:37.000Like Staten Island's either going to get out or these people are going to move somewhere else.
00:54:41.000I mean, that's the reason why New Jersey is even in play is because so many New Yorkers that still need access to the city move across the river to New Jersey because it's like slightly, it's a slight improvement.
00:54:49.000And so, yeah, it's going to put New Jersey and Connecticut into play more because everyone talks about Florida.
00:54:54.000Everyone knows that, but it's like a lot of people still need the city because they work in it and it's just going to like benefit Republicans in Connecticut and New Jersey, but destroy New York City.
00:55:00.000Has the Wu-Tang clan made a comment yet about this?
00:55:15.000So Momdani coming in, he says he wants New York City to have the highest, I think it was Mamdani.
00:55:19.000He wants New York City to have the highest corporate tax rate in the country, or it would rival New Jersey's corporate tax rate at around 11.7%.
00:55:28.000I mean, do you see Delaware is already bleeding companies?
00:55:31.000Coinbase has announced they're leaving Delaware because an activist Democrat judge said, we can stop your company from functioning like a normal company.
00:55:38.000You know what really pissed me off about that?
00:55:41.000The shareholders voted to give Elon money and said, Elon, we want to give you money because we want our stock to go up.
00:55:47.000You get one guy with a small handful of shares who sues and the judge says, okay, the will of the shareholder is now gone because I said so.
00:55:55.000And I, as a shareholder, I can't sue to make it happen because a judge ruled it.
00:56:01.000I can't sue the judge and I can't sue the company to make them pay because the company already wants to, but are blocked by this judge.
00:56:06.000These Democrat activists in politics are losing their minds and they're going to burn their cities and states to the ground.
00:56:12.000We gloat about it, but this is going to create escape from New York.
00:56:17.000Maybe the real conspiracy among the elites is how do we turn New York into a giant prison so we can have escape from New York with this, what's his name, Snake Pliskin?
00:57:33.000And New York's a particularly interesting example because this is a phenomenon that occurs across the Anglosphere is the biggest city in Anglosphere countries actually has a sizable conservative minority.
00:57:47.000And so what's happening now is they're trying to like overturn that because the biggest city in your country, I mean, a lot of people are saying, oh, it's New York.
00:57:53.000It's like, yeah, this is the seat of our empire.
00:58:06.000And so it's like, that's all they're trying to do here is they're trying to consolidate power because it'd be really demoralizing, quite frankly, like to completely eviscerate Giuliani's New York.
00:58:14.000The effect that that would have, like, I know a lot of people in chatter play, like, ah, who cares in New York?
00:58:17.000But the average American likes to vacation in New York.
00:58:20.000They like to watch Fox News and see the city in the background.
00:58:36.000And you can see it like when Paris did all their, when they voted on the gas taxes and they started the Yellow Vest riots, one of the longest running riots.
00:58:44.000You know, it was a lot of people from the rural areas that were getting impacted by ridiculous policies by the city people who don't care about them.
00:58:53.000And I mean, we're seeing a lot of that stuff happen around the world right now.
00:58:56.000Like what went on in Mexico the other day is insane, you know, because the violence is out of control.
00:59:02.000And I mean, that stuff could happen here at some point.
00:59:05.000Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, like the UK is a good analog where it's like in their case, I mean, America is a lot of cities, but in the UK, like London is the city.
00:59:10.000So all they really have to do is destroy London and that destroys the country because that's where all the young people go for jobs.
00:59:15.000That's where their culture comes out of, et cetera, et cetera.
00:59:19.000In America's case, we have backups, obviously.
00:59:20.000But New York City ultimately still is like where the culture comes out of, where a lot of our, I mean, a huge chunk of our GDP is concentrated in that tri-state area.
00:59:28.000It's like, again, I wish we could say just leave it.
00:59:30.000You know, like Chicago, you can experiment a little bit.
01:00:04.000And, well, so one guy at the table was, I forgot what someone brought up that these commemorative, that people will go online and buy these things or something.
01:01:06.000The issue with the raid on the Harper's Ferry Armory is one thing, but his entire legacy of what was happening in Bleeding, Kansas, is nightmarish.
01:01:13.000I mean, John Brown and his sons and these other people involved, they murdered journalists.
01:01:32.000But, you know, I just wanted to point out, my point is that I think people are generally just like, I don't want to hear, dude, I'm so just burned on all of this.
01:01:42.000I think the issue is it feels like nothing's happening.
01:01:45.000It feels like, I feel like a rag being squeezed as hard as possible with the last little bit of water out of it.
01:01:52.000And I'm just waiting for that pop to be like, we've done it.
01:01:56.000There's a light at the end of the tunnel, and it feels like it ain't there.
01:01:59.000I think something, we're on the edge of something even crazier.
01:02:38.000I think part of that is by design to make it so everyone gives up and then stops paying attention and then something happens.
01:02:43.000I wonder if a lot of it was, you know, the story of Obama using Facebook to help him win 08 is that a young whippersnapper went to him and said, Are you using social media?
01:02:53.000And they were like, We don't know what that is because they're older.
01:02:56.000And so they decided to start campaigning on social media and it helped him turn out more of the youth vote, which wasn't like the principal factor, but it was a big deal.
01:03:53.000And the political violence stuff is just ramping up.
01:03:56.000I mean, I'll be honest, it's how I feel.
01:03:58.000I see people in the chat are saying something to that effect as well.
01:04:01.000I feel like we're all just at a certain point, you can only say the same thing where people are like, give me a solution, solve the problem, or talk to me about football.
01:05:21.000Grock, why don't you like Candace Owens?
01:05:27.000So the drama is, I still feel like the dramas is something that is still kind of feminine overall.
01:05:36.000I mean, I know that people, it gets clicks and stuff, but you hear people on the right and podcasters on the right doing things like saying, go out and do something and et cetera, et cetera.
01:07:02.000Candace Owens has implied, I'm going to zoom in on this, that Erica Kirk knew in advance about the circumstances surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th at Utah Valley University.
01:07:11.000While Owens explicitly denied directly accusing Erica of involvement, such as murder, she has made repeated statements suggesting Erica had prior knowledge of threats or a broader conspiracy tied to Turning Point USA, which Erica now leads as the CEO.
01:07:24.000And so they just, you know, context Owens' comments stem from her ongoing conspiracy theories at the assassination, et cetera, et cetera.
01:07:30.000Again, I think people are really interested in conspiracy theories.
01:07:47.000And I think right now, the challenge is when we are told for a year straight, political violence, and it keeps happening, eventually we're just like, I know.
01:07:57.000When Trump says tariffs and the Democrats argue, the argument has not changed.
01:08:05.000When it comes to the Grok thing, though, and asking that question, doesn't that answer have something to do with the amount of people saying that Candace said that, even though Candace didn't actually say that?
01:09:44.000I don't hear her actually blaming certain people for the murder, but I hear her going on different, if anyone's read Crying of Lot 49, it reminds me of the Thomas Pynchon novel, Eda Bamas, going after all these different avenues that are interesting, that pull together different threads.
01:09:57.000There's no answers yet, but I like the questions.
01:10:00.000The same way I defended Alex Jones during Sloane.
01:10:02.000I think the question is, if you were to go to somebody right now and say, we have the option to talk about tariffs or this weird picture of a Bush, the Charlie Kirk assassination, people are going to be like, talk about the Bush.
01:10:50.000I mean, there was an argument, I guess, that they had sent something to her to prove Bridget McCrone was a majority of Bridget McCrone started in OnlyFans.
01:11:00.000No, I mean, I don't really care about Brigitte, her.
01:11:04.000But the story around it is fascinating.
01:11:06.000And the amount of people that are involved in the politics of that administration and how openly pedophilic they are is disgusting and disturbing.
01:11:15.000You know, strangely, a lot of governments and a lot of world leaders.
01:11:54.000But it's part of the arbitrage is like you turn these stories into something absurd.
01:11:58.000So that way people actually lose focus of what, like, what if you actually drill down, what's the subject?
01:12:02.000Like, they do the same thing with the Clinton kill list where it turned into like the, oh, you know, like something bad happens.
01:12:06.000Like, oh, he had information arrested Hillary Clinton.
01:12:08.000It's like, yeah, because if you can like arbitrage and like turn it into an absurd thing, then completely loses what the actual story was about in the first place.
01:12:15.000I asked, has she said Robinson was framed?
01:12:17.000Yes, Candace Owens has repeatedly stated and implied that Tyler Robinson was framed for Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th, 2025.
01:12:24.000Her claims portrayed the official narrative, Robinson, as the lone gunman motivated by anti-conservative ideology as a government-orchestrated cover-up involving evidence tampering, witness suppression, and planted details.
01:12:34.000I got to be honest, that narrative is infinitely more interesting than tariffs.
01:13:40.000So what happens if they say, listen, the computers are going to bring about a new industrial revolution once we hit artificial intelligence and it takes over a lot of these jobs.
01:14:25.000The only problem is nobody's going to be buying cars.
01:14:26.000The CEO of Anthropic was just on like 60 Minutes or something talking about how they're going to wipe, Claude's going to wipe out half the workforce, white-collar workforce, I believe he said.
01:14:34.000And then I was thinking about how Peter Thiel's been talking about anyone who criticizes AI, he calls a legionnaire of the Antichrist.
01:14:41.000And I was thinking at first that was against a lot of people like us who are openly critical.
01:14:44.000Maybe it is, but I think it's also against his competition because he's been open about wanting to monopolize these industries.
01:14:50.000So he's talking about Anthropic, he's talking about Altman, and he wants to own all of that, consolidate all that power into something like Palantir.
01:14:57.000I want to ask you guys about this new show that just came out.
01:15:00.000Let me see if I can find an article about it.
01:15:07.000Pluribist boss Gordon Smith addresses anti-AI subtext, says it's less rich to spell things out.
01:15:14.000Smith acknowledges another prominent theory that the show is commenting on political division, but there's an under-discussed topic he raises after episode three of Raya Seahorn starring a series from Vince Gilligan.
01:15:25.000So for those that aren't familiar, this is not really a spoiler because I learned this just from the show's info section.
01:15:33.000It's actually, I guess they have to release this information before you see the first episode, despite the fact that like watching the episode.
01:15:40.000Anyway, the point is, humans get a signal from outer space.
01:15:53.000I watched the first couple of episodes.
01:15:55.000And without getting into any spoilers, in particular, as it pertains to the AI conversation, the gist of the show is 12 people on the planet are not affected.
01:16:02.000They're immune for some reason, but every human becomes one.
01:16:35.000I mean, I watched for the first episode.
01:16:37.000I also thought it was kind of like they're probably going to explore this in later episodes and like whether there's positives and negatives to it.
01:16:45.000But I mean, is it just a human thing where you feel this need to be individual?
01:16:50.000Because I know some of my friends in Japan don't feel a similar drive to be individual.
01:16:55.000It's a very different culture fundamentally.
01:17:57.000So I guess we're going to get into spoilers a little bit because we have to, but only to episode two, because I haven't seen episode three yet.
01:18:02.000So the people who've seen episode three, feel free to spoil it for me if I'm going to spoil the rest for everybody else.
01:18:06.000But in the first episode, what happens is people start getting infected and their brains start linking.
01:18:15.000And I guess the main character is like a lesbian.
01:21:00.000We are in a miniature version of the hive already.
01:21:03.000Elon could go on X, like Elon and Zuckerberg could get together and be like, make sure people only see corn is the healthiest meal you could possibly ever eat.
01:22:46.000And the show came out on the heels of the news of 3i Atlas, people hearing a signal from it and believing it might have been the WOW signal.
01:22:53.000And then this show came out and then they're hearing the signal.
01:23:33.000Some people are putting out this nonsense saying that once it went around the sun, we got blasted by this massive G4 coronal mass ejection.
01:24:09.000The people that are coming up with this likely are not having kids, right?
01:24:15.000If you don't have a hopeful outlook for the future, you're not going to have kids.
01:24:20.000And like, having children is a manifestation of belief that there is hope for the future because you wouldn't have kids if not.
01:24:28.000And we're, you know, the, you know, the reproduction of people isn't happening.
01:24:34.000We're our replacement rate is incredibly low or we're not meeting the replacement rates.
01:24:41.000So I think that the lack of having families is emblematic of people looking at society and saying, oh, I'm just going to live for me, live for today, because whatever doomsday scenario they prefer, right?
01:24:55.000Whether it be the seas are going to rise because of global warming or our planet's on fire.
01:25:01.000You listen to kids that are children of left-leaning parents and they sound like Greta.
01:25:08.000Remember when they were saying we have 12 years to live?
01:26:00.000Say a Michigan man fatally shot a teen who broke into his garage and is now facing a manslaughter rap.
01:26:05.000Sivon Wilson, 17, was with six other mainly teenagers when the group broke into Dayton Napton's garage shortly after 1 a.m.
01:26:12.000Napton, 24, got an alert from his home security system, grabbed the nine millimeter, ran outside, and fired two shots into the garage through a windowless door, striking Wilson.
01:26:21.000As the group fled, Napton fired five more shots before going back to his house, reloading his gun, and returning outside, according to a statement.
01:27:34.000The issue I take with it is if I'm in my house and someone breaks in and my bedroom door is closed and I can see them walking up to the door.
01:27:41.000And like, let's say the circumstances, I literally know no one is supposed to be in my house.
01:27:45.000Am I supposed to be like, better wait for them to open the door?
01:29:01.000Like if I'm at home and somebody, let's say this building right now, we watch someone outside kick the door in and we know it's an intruder and they're armed.
01:29:12.000So we slam this door shut and we see him run up and go to the door and start banging on it.
01:29:44.000You're the victim of someone breaking into your house and you have to give them the opportunity to kill you before you can protect yourself?
01:29:57.000But to charge him for shooting through a door at people who broke into his house and he's supposed to be like, I'm going to give them an opportunity to get line of sight on me before I can defend myself in my home.
01:30:08.000No, but look, to do that, you're breaking one of the four fundamental firearms rules.
01:30:14.000Know your target and what's beyond it.
01:30:16.000And my point is, if you are in your house in the living room watching TV and the front door gets kicked open by a raging lunatic who goes, I'm going to kill you.
01:30:24.000So you run into your bedroom, slam the door shut, grab your gun and point at the door, and you see him running up going, yar, yar!
01:30:30.000You're supposed to be like, better let him open the door and see that I'm here before I can defend my home.
01:30:39.000Hopefully, you have security cameras so you can prove that you've been attacked, you know, and hopefully that helps.
01:30:43.000But they're totally still going to use that against you in court.
01:30:46.000I understand the risk of like, if you're in your bedroom and you wake up in the middle of the night to footsteps, don't shoot through the door.
01:30:52.000Like there are horrible stories of like there, you know, a father shot his teenage daughter because she was, she was trying to sneak into the house.
01:31:19.000Another thing, if there's someone coming towards your room or whatever, and you're in a room, that's the opportunity for you to get an angle on him, right?
01:31:26.000If you shouldn't be standing in front of the door, you get an angle.
01:31:51.000But there's that security guard we talked about that they're trying to put in prison because a criminal tried charging past him and he grabbed him.
01:32:00.000And then the criminal was on top of him punching him in the face.
01:32:03.000And when he shot the guy, they charged the security guard with murder.
01:32:41.000Six other seven dudes break into his house.
01:32:45.000This guy probably just snapped and said, I'm done with it.
01:32:47.000Like, people are getting fed up with being told it's the criminals who are the victims.
01:32:53.000There was a case in Tennessee, I want to say in Memphis.
01:32:58.000Some dude was breaking into another dude's car, and the dude chased him down the street, and the dude fell, and he walked up and he popped him.
01:33:08.000And the jury said, not guilty, because they were tired of all of the people behaving that way.
01:33:17.000The guy, in most circumstances, people would say that it was an execution, but the crime had gotten so out of hand in Memphis, they were just like, he's not guilty.
01:33:27.000But people also don't understand that, you know, I've seen videos where two guys are fighting and then one guy will immediately disengage from the other guy, like the fight breaks, and then he pulls his gun and starts shooting him.
01:33:37.000And the comments are like, he wasn't even fighting anymore.
01:33:41.000And it's like, dude, these people understand that someone is trying to kill you.
01:33:46.000You don't know if they're going to pull a knife or a gun.
01:33:48.000And so if there is a reasonable fear of threat, I think is what, what is it, what is it called?
01:33:53.000Imperfect self-defense in some of these circumstances where maybe you weren't really being threatened, but you perceived one.
01:33:59.000So you were entitled to your self-defense.
01:34:01.000Well, that's just the whole thing: people are just completely disengaged from violence because, like, we have such a, in many ways, like, a lot of people are insulated from violence.
01:35:46.000We still have DAs who have been heavily funded by leftist organizations.
01:35:51.000Just because USAID and these slusheds were shut down doesn't mean that we've actually stopped the problem of these people who already got elected or already on the bench for life or however long they're going to be.
01:36:00.000And they've been funded by even outside of USAID and other things.
01:36:04.000You've got open, was it open society Soros's thing?
01:36:36.000As much as people will criticize Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was right when he said liberty is never more than a generation away from dying.
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01:40:03.000If you download NASCAR 25 on PlayStation, I just bought it.
01:40:07.000It's, dude, I had so much fun playing this game.
01:40:10.000You can actually drive a car with the big old Timcast.com on the back of it in the game.
01:40:16.000And you know what I really love about this game?
01:40:18.000I learned I'm one of the best professional racers.
01:40:21.000And if I was in NASCAR, I'd win first place every time.
01:40:23.000Because what I found out is when I'm driving and there's someone in front of me, I just do what's called the pit maneuver and cause them to crash.
01:42:04.000The argument is, though, and I'm not a fan of 50-year mortgages.
01:42:07.000The argument is you keep the equity in your house, and that debt doesn't matter over 50 years because when you buy the house at, let's say you buy the house at 300K, by 50 years later, that house is going to be worth $3 million because of inflation.
01:42:22.000So your payment will be nothing, and you'll hold millions of dollars in equity.
01:42:26.000Of course, that million will be equivalent to $400,000.
01:43:28.000I've been telling people they need to pay attention to what she's doing because I've bumped into just like women in like random places who are, well, I don't want to get too specific because I don't want to out anybody, but I was at an event, someone was there, and she's just like, you got to listen to Candace.
01:43:51.000She's like, you know, I don't agree with Candace on a lot, but I've been watching her, and man, well, that's how you get these liberal viewers.
01:44:04.000Mason says, Tim, there's a problem with your anti-Luddite revolt theory is that the only people still having children are those most likely to revolt against the AI revolution.
01:47:36.000If you are a weak-willed or like midwit, a weak-willed person or a midwit, you will fall for the lies every single time.
01:47:45.000So when I was doing an earlier segment on the, what was it about?
01:47:51.000It was, it overlapped the Candace stuff, the Thomas Crookes, they, them stuff, and the Candace claims about Robinson.
01:47:57.000I asked Grok if Candace had ever implied that Turning Point was involved in Charlie Kirk's death.
01:48:05.000And it responded with, Candace Owens has never on her show, on social media or otherwise, explicitly claimed Turning Point killed Charlie Kirk.
01:48:14.000And I'm like, I literally said implied, not explicit, implicit.
01:48:20.000And it went, oh, it literally changed the question I asked to give me a fake answer.
01:51:23.000You know why I don't believe the cracker means whip cracker is that it is a leftists, a leftist perception that all slavery was field slavery of people being beaten.
01:51:34.000They ignore the fact that slaves worked every job they could be made to work.
01:51:39.000And so I don't know what portion of it was, you know, whip cracking slave work, but that seems like an exaggeration from a leftist to try and malign white people.
01:54:17.000This is why this is why the Friday show is going to be interesting with Arn McIntyre and Joel Berry is because James Lindsay has now been championing the point that the phrase woke right is intended to be an alternate form of alt-right as a general smear against any conservative to malign them as a white supremacist.
01:54:59.000Well, what happened then is the AP waited for everyone to come out and claim they were alt-right, basically saying, we don't want any neocons, we're Trump.
01:55:06.000And then the AP said, alt-right means white nationalist.
01:55:09.000Liberals then went back in time and grabbed old posts where people said they were alt-right, juxtaposed it with the AP and said they admit they're white nationalists.
01:56:21.000I haven't talked to Jim about this, but I feel like a lot of it was his desire to make sure that the Christian conservatives didn't gain too much influence because there were Christians that were like, we need to have a theocracy.
01:56:36.000We need to have more Christian influence in the government and stuff.
01:56:39.000And Jim is vehemently against that, even though he's not, he's not, wouldn't consider himself like the same kind of new atheist that he used to be.
01:56:49.000He didn't want to see the Christian right take over the MAGA movement.
01:56:54.000Yeah, there was a huge, like when the Christian nationalism stuff was really kicking off, like people came really unglued over that in particular.
01:57:01.000And it's like, that's one of the ideologies where the tenets are actually fairly sensible compared to like a lot of these more insurgent ideologies.
01:57:08.000So it's like that was a mask off moment for a lot of people when they were like Doug Wilson's like extremist.
01:57:13.000He's just like has he has the politics of like everyone's grandparents.
01:57:18.000Joseph No says, Candace Owens' show success is owed to her Robert Stack Unsolved Mysteries vibe.
01:58:07.000I just, you know, it's funny because, like, you got these red pill dudes who are like, man, women only want one thing, and this is what they're gold diggers.
01:58:13.000My beef, I have no beef with women wanting resources from strong men.
02:00:23.000I guess there's a lot we can go over because this man actually called into the show to talk about what was going on, and it ultimately culminated in this sad story.
02:00:30.000So, Andy, do you want to shout anything out?
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