Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Democrats CONCEDE Redistricting War, Trump Has DONE IT | Timcast IRL

00:02:25.000 Spanberger in Virginia has conceded.

00:02:28.000 They are going to be using the old maps for their congressional redistricting.

00:02:32.000 It's not going to happen.

00:02:33.000 They're going to be using the old maps, not the new ones.

00:02:35.000 The congressional redistricting is not going to happen.

00:02:38.000 Now, they're still challenging the Supreme Court, but it won't matter because in 2026, they have to use their old maps, keeping four Republican seats safe, which means without Virginia, they've basically lost.

00:02:49.000 This was going to be a massive grab for them, four extra seats.

00:02:53.000 Republicans are moving forward with South Carolina.

00:02:55.000 The governor has announced they are going to have a special session for redistricting.

00:03:00.000 We may see more.

00:03:01.000 Georgia says they'll do it in 2028, but maybe this actually makes sense.

00:03:05.000 In the end, Republicans turned what was supposed to be historically a Democrat opportunity into an effective toss up.

00:03:12.000 So it seems Republicans probably going to win.

00:03:15.000 I don't know for sure, but Democrats are miserable in the polls.

00:03:19.000 Right now, they're at the margin of error, the congressional generic.

00:03:22.000 This is CNN reporting margin of error.

00:03:24.000 They're up three points, but the polls tend to favor Democrats.

00:03:27.000 So it's looking very, very good for Republicans.

00:03:29.000 This is.

00:03:30.000 Their concession.

00:03:31.000 I think the Republicans may have won enough to get the job done.

00:03:35.000 So when it comes to Georgia, maybe they actually want to keep that one in the back pocket for 2028 so they can adapt if they need to.

00:03:43.000 Although it's probably just easier to say that Kemp is weak and won't get the job done and he's stalling.

00:03:48.000 So I guess we'll see about that.

00:03:50.000 We'll talk about that. 1.00

00:03:51.000 Plus, of course, Kamala Harris has basically said it's time for all out balls of the wall war. 1.00

00:03:55.000 She says if Democrats win, redistrict, pack the courts, take everything, lock them up. 1.00

00:04:00.000 Yikes.

00:04:01.000 Donald Trump, on the other hand, is going to create a $1.7 billion fund for anybody who was wronged by the Biden administration called the Weaponization Fund.

00:04:08.000 So, this is big, big news.

00:04:09.000 And then I think the most fun news aliens, because apparently now there are more videos.

00:04:16.000 One of the stories that got released recently, or that people are still digging through these UFO files, claims that aliens actually made contact with humans back in the 50s and gave us a warning.

00:04:26.000 So, there's a lot to question on that.

00:04:28.000 But the big story, of course, that's been lingering for the past week or so is this meeting with government officials and pastors.

00:04:34.000 Warning them about aliens.

00:04:36.000 So we'll talk all about that and a lot more.

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00:07:11.000 We actually have two guests.

00:07:13.000 Alan, do you want to go first?

00:07:14.000 Yeah, my name is Alan Dadio.

00:07:15.000 I'm the pastor of Revival Nation Church in Charlotte, North Carolina.

00:07:18.000 And I was in said meeting, so we're going to clear up a lot of the confusion around that about the aliens today.

00:07:23.000 And I just realized those videos you were playing of skateboarders was AI.

00:07:26.000 I'm just telling you.

00:07:27.000 You thought it was real?

00:07:28.000 That's how real it looked.

00:07:28.000 I thought it was real.

00:07:29.000 Wow.

00:07:30.000 Yeah.

00:07:30.000 So, aliens are real.

00:07:32.000 We'll see.

00:07:32.000 Well, we'll see.

00:07:33.000 Okay.

00:07:34.000 So, this has generated a lot of attention, but you were there, so you can tell us actually what happened.

00:07:37.000 And I'm sure it's much more mundane and boring as it always is.

00:07:41.000 We'll find some way to spice it up.

00:07:43.000 Well, it's great to have you.

00:07:43.000 Yeah.

00:07:44.000 We got Matthew here.

00:07:46.000 Matthew Farachi.

00:07:46.000 Who are you?

00:07:47.000 I am now a Tim Pool frequent flyer guest.

00:07:51.000 Tim, I want my little wings or something like that.

00:07:54.000 Can you provide them?

00:07:55.000 Maybe a little gold skateboard that I could have here.

00:07:58.000 We give you like cross swords.

00:07:59.000 After your fifth time, you get a badge.

00:08:02.000 But okay, I'll keep coming back.

00:08:05.000 You make sure, okay?

00:08:07.000 I'm the founder of a group called Torch QRF, and we are solving the religious freedom, but that's a bad word.

00:08:14.000 Christian genocide is the word because it's happening all over the world.

00:08:19.000 Every two hours, a Christian gets killed in sub Saharan Africa. 0.91

00:08:24.000 70% of those are in Nigeria. 0.97

00:08:26.000 Lots of people are talking about it, but nobody's solving it. 1.00

00:08:28.000 It has to stop.

00:08:30.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:08:30.000 Well, right on.

00:08:31.000 Ian's here.

00:08:32.000 I am here.

00:08:32.000 I'm a resident skeptic.

00:08:34.000 Highly skeptical of all things non provable, but also I've been in touch with God and spirits, which is very strange anecdotally.

00:08:41.000 So it believes everything and nothing at the same time.

00:08:43.000 I'm here to square the circle with Carter Banks.

00:08:45.000 I've been observing and I've been trying very hard to make sure no one talks about aliens until we started the show.

00:08:51.000 So I'm really pumped to get into all this.

00:08:53.000 Indeed.

00:08:53.000 But before we do, we got some politics to go through.

00:08:55.000 We got the story from the Washington Examiner.

00:08:57.000 Spanberger concedes defeat on redistricting and says 2026 elections will use the old map.

00:09:05.000 In fact, 270 to win.

00:09:07.000 Has already reverted back to the old Virginia map.

00:09:10.000 Look at that.

00:09:11.000 Look at that beautiful county right there.

00:09:13.000 That's right.

00:09:14.000 VA6, good old Winchester.

00:09:16.000 We live right up here in West Virginia.

00:09:18.000 So look at this.

00:09:19.000 We have our choices between VA10, which is deep blue, and VA6, which is red.

00:09:25.000 So we got this reporting.

00:09:26.000 Spamberger confirmed Virginia would use its current congressional map drawn in 2021 rather than the Democratic drawn map.

00:09:32.000 Her confirmation, the state retains its current map consisting of six Democrat and five Republican districts, clarifies how the Democratic governor will proceed as the litigation plays out.

00:09:40.000 Over this year's redraw.

00:09:42.000 Her comments in an interview with WTOP News come just days after State Attorney General Jay Jones filed an emergency petition to the U.S. Supreme Court, misspelled in several instances, by the way, which was weird, vergnia, and centator.

00:09:57.000 Those are not words, but sure.

00:09:59.000 He was in a hurry.

00:10:00.000 What can we say?

00:10:02.000 Spamberger told the outlet that the petition to the Supreme Court is important, but when it comes to the execution of elections, no matter the outcome of the case, we'll be running our elections beginning next month with early voting on the current maps that we have, which means, ladies and gentlemen, The current breakdown by polls is 209 Republican to 207 Democrat.

00:10:19.000 There's only six at risk Republican districts, 14 at risk Democrat districts, and 19 toss ups.

00:10:26.000 This in every way.

00:10:27.000 I'm going to stress not only do they have two extra seats just based on polling, they only have six vulnerable seats.

00:10:34.000 So if there is a polling error that swings 10 points, they could theoretically only lose upwards of six, which would be bad.

00:10:40.000 Democrats would still win.

00:10:41.000 But Democrats would have to take almost every single swing district.

00:10:46.000 I got to tell you, boys, it sounds like Republicans have a really good chance to buck the historical trend.

00:10:52.000 And keep the midterms this year, which would be insane.

00:10:55.000 And Donald Trump would basically just do whatever he wants after that.

00:10:58.000 Yeah, that'd be historic. 0.55

00:10:59.000 I think Hakeem Jeffries called it Jim Crow 2.0, which concerns me because it seems like everything's, it seems like we would be at 3.0 by now or 4.0. 0.93

00:11:07.000 We're calling everything Jim Crow. 0.82

00:11:08.000 That's right. 0.98

00:11:11.000 Yeah, it's mind blowing to me.

00:11:14.000 I feel like God keeps doing miracles to save the country.

00:11:17.000 Oh, yeah, save the country.

00:11:19.000 Yeah.

00:11:19.000 Well, the interesting thing about it is that Trump's approval is actually.

00:11:24.000 Down quite a bit.

00:11:25.000 His approval on the economy is miserable.

00:11:28.000 Unfavorability is like 70%.

00:11:31.000 But here's what's weird.

00:11:32.000 Despite the fact that Trump has really bad polling on the economy, largely because of gas prices and the war with Iran, Democrats are declining in the polls.

00:11:40.000 The faith in, I think, the government is declining in general.

00:11:42.000 No, I got to stress this.

00:11:45.000 On Republicans, I think, what is it, on CNN's polling, on the economy, the Republican Party is viewed as 50 50.

00:11:53.000 Trump is viewed massively negatively, but Democrats are going down.

00:11:58.000 I agree with you on the faith in government thing, but to this point, I'm making right now is why are Democrats declining when they're not in power?

00:12:05.000 Because Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:12:06.000 Because she won't stop talking.

00:12:08.000 I think it's because they haven't really supplied a vision for the future.

00:12:12.000 So they've just yelled a lot about, we got to stop, we got to stop.

00:12:15.000 And if you know anything about politics, yelling no, don't isn't the way to get the votes in to go forward.

00:12:20.000 You might scare people into winning one election, but then we immunized against it.

00:12:25.000 And the Kamala Harris debacle, where they tried to force a candidate onto us without a primary, was egregious.

00:12:31.000 And I think people are disenfranchised and disgusted by it, actually.

00:12:35.000 Yeah, this is really weird that the fact that Trump is going down, but Democrats are going down.

00:12:38.000 Normally, they kind of coincide with one another.

00:12:40.000 And normally, in the midterms, the party that's out of power wins.

00:12:45.000 It's really odd to see this happening right here.

00:12:47.000 They're not, like you said, providing an alternative vision.

00:12:51.000 They're just saying, no, Yeah, maybe that's it.

00:12:54.000 Maybe people are just fatigued to the point where it's like, listen, I get it.

00:12:57.000 Trump shouldn't have started this war.

00:12:58.000 Gas prices went up, but Democrats are going to do the same thing anyway.

00:13:02.000 And what are they offering?

00:13:04.000 They like to talk big game on TV, but I, honest question, like, what have the Democrats proposed for the midterms?

00:13:10.000 Well, they do offer like tampons in the men's restroom, so that's one thing.

00:13:14.000 Yeah, but I, in all seriousness, can you think of, I mean, seriously, can you think of anything a Democrat, prominent Democrats, come out and said, here's what we'll do for the American people?

00:13:22.000 Their entire message has been just being against Trump.

00:13:25.000 Yeah.

00:13:25.000 They have talked about removing the First Amendment.

00:13:27.000 That'll be wildly popular, especially on shows like Tim Pool. 0.58

00:13:31.000 We'd support that.

00:13:32.000 Yeah, we got, it was actually interesting.

00:13:33.000 We got censored yesterday.

00:13:34.000 It was very funny because.

00:13:36.000 It's true.

00:13:36.000 This is what YouTube does.

00:13:38.000 So, when that story broke that the CIA raided Tulsi's office, which was not true, by the way, you know, I see this message.

00:13:44.000 I don't believe it.

00:13:45.000 I'm like, this is crazy.

00:13:46.000 How is this possible?

00:13:46.000 Like, the CIA doesn't do domestic operations like that.

00:13:49.000 And I pulled it up, and there's Jesse Waters saying, breaking the CIA's raided the office.

00:13:53.000 And he's citing Rep Luna.

00:13:53.000 And I was like, what?

00:13:54.000 And I'm like, here we have Fox confirming it, a member of Congress saying this happened.

00:13:59.000 And I'm like, I guess this happened.

00:14:01.000 Once we started talking about it, our show disappeared from YouTube.

00:14:04.000 Wow.

00:14:05.000 On Rumble and X, it was fine.

00:14:05.000 Really?

00:14:07.000 But people watching on YouTube said the stream's gone.

00:14:10.000 Which indicates if our stream, our bitrate is perfect, because I can see it right here, it's perfect, no drop frames.

00:14:16.000 And Rumble and X are streaming with no problem, but YouTube goes down.

00:14:21.000 It could have been a tech glitch, but it's not the first time.

00:14:23.000 It's not the first time.

00:14:24.000 We dropped tens of thousands of viewers, and then they all started to come back and mess.

00:14:29.000 Once we were done talking about it, we debunked it, by the way, in real time as we were going through it.

00:14:33.000 We're like, okay, here's what really happened.

00:14:36.000 But yeah, on X and Rumble, not a hitch, no problems. 0.90

00:14:39.000 Sounds like a men in black type of tech glitch. 0.96

00:14:42.000 Sounds like, you know what?

00:14:43.000 I can tell you this.

00:14:44.000 A long time ago, I was at a streaming company's HQ.

00:14:47.000 Take a guess, I've been to a bunch of them.

00:14:49.000 And they have moderators who have a screen and they've got 100 live streams going on at once.

00:14:55.000 And then they've got algorithms that detect potential, you know, aberrant behavior.

00:15:00.000 And then they'll see like there was a red, yellow, and green circle on it or something like a light.

00:15:09.000 Indicator, yeah.

00:15:09.000 Yeah.

00:15:10.000 And then if streams were, the algorithm was starting to think like this might get, Crazy, it would move them up to the top left where it thought they were the most likely to break the rules.

00:15:21.000 And I was like, What does that mean? 1.00

00:15:22.000 They're like women getting naked mostly. 1.00

00:15:24.000 So, if there is a woman and she's wearing revealing clothing, it'll immediately move her to the top and give a yellow light, like warning, she might break the rules. 0.95

00:15:32.000 And there are some people they know break the rules.

00:15:34.000 So they've already moved to it.

00:15:36.000 And then a light turns red and he's like, Yeah, look, she's taking her clothes off.

00:15:40.000 And he X's it out and they're gone.

00:15:41.000 Streams off.

00:15:42.000 I imagine that's AI now.

00:15:43.000 They got AI doing it.

00:15:44.000 And it's not just green, yellow, and red.

00:15:46.000 It's probably like 100.

00:15:47.000 Zero to 100 now.

00:15:48.000 And it's like, ooh, watching you and getting ready to prep and then spotting your show for nine seconds, bumping your stream for nine seconds.

00:15:56.000 I got to bring this up every time we talk about it with the balance of power.

00:15:59.000 I mean, it's only mid May.

00:16:01.000 So we're looking at about five and a half months until we get to election day.

00:16:04.000 But I do not understand how anybody thinks Democrats can sweep.

00:16:09.000 Only if there was like a disregard of the Supreme Court.

00:16:13.000 But I don't think that can happen.

00:16:14.000 They can't win the Senate.

00:16:14.000 No, the Senate.

00:16:15.000 It's not possible.

00:16:17.000 Democrats cannot be sweeping.

00:16:18.000 Math isn't there.

00:16:19.000 It's just looking at the history, though, because traditionally that's what happens.

00:16:22.000 No, but not the Senate.

00:16:23.000 So my point is this.

00:16:24.000 How are people putting money at 41% wagering up?

00:16:24.000 Oh, I see.

00:16:29.000 There's $5 million wagered between these brackets, and 41% yes on Democrat, House, and Senate, despite the fact that means they have to flip Alaska with a three time incumbent.

00:16:39.000 That's not happening.

00:16:41.000 Like, unless the deep state knows something, I don't.

00:16:44.000 And so people are putting money on it. 0.83

00:16:46.000 Or if it's like an Iranian deep state ploy to trick the people into thinking something. 0.76

00:16:52.000 50 Republican seats are held. 0.88

00:16:54.000 JD Vance is the tiebreaker.

00:16:56.000 Republicans hold the Senate.

00:16:57.000 Wow.

00:16:58.000 So they would have to flip Alaska. 1.00

00:17:00.000 With a three term incumbent, that's not going to happen.

00:17:02.000 You are not flipping a Republican state with an incumbent.

00:17:06.000 It's just, if he was retiring, we're like, okay, this is going to get interesting.

00:17:10.000 But it's not.

00:17:11.000 It's a Republican state with an incumbent.

00:17:12.000 It's not happening.

00:17:13.000 That means they have to win every toss up.

00:17:17.000 Every toss up plus Alaska.

00:17:18.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:17:19.000 That's right.

00:17:20.000 Yeah, not going to happen.

00:17:21.000 Also, Tim, there's a lot of baseball between now and then.

00:17:24.000 We're talking about the state of things right now.

00:17:26.000 Trump's going to fix what's going on in Iran by then. 0.88

00:17:30.000 They're going to focus on. 0.97

00:17:31.000 Well, I heard that.

00:17:32.000 I said, I've heard that one.

00:17:34.000 I know, but I think he will.

00:17:36.000 And because that's what they're thinking about all the time is how to get ready for the midterms.

00:17:41.000 And also, look, we talked about this, Tim.

00:17:44.000 People's memories are like maybe eight seconds long at this point.

00:17:48.000 So, when, you know, my prediction is that August or September, Trump's going to announce we're suspending the gas tax.

00:17:57.000 Democrats, whose only position is no Trump, are going to fight it.

00:18:00.000 And then Trump's going to be like, we're trying to make gas cheap for everybody, and the Democrats won't let us.

00:18:04.000 Right.

00:18:05.000 And then they're going to be like, why are Democrats doing that?

00:18:07.000 Right.

00:18:08.000 And they'll forget how the gas got so expensive.

00:18:09.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:18:10.000 It's a million years.

00:18:11.000 The midterms are a million years from the midterms for us that are watching.

00:18:14.000 The important thing to consider, too, is that we're talking about districts.

00:18:16.000 We're not talking about states.

00:18:18.000 So you really got to understand when it comes to a district, like let's jump over to Ohio.

00:18:23.000 Ohio's ninth with Marcy Kaptur.

00:18:25.000 It's a toss up from a Democrat.

00:18:28.000 And we don't know what the interests of that district are going to be.

00:18:33.000 Donald Trump coming out and talking about gas prices is not going to matter all that much for the Republican who's running there.

00:18:37.000 The Republican who's running there has to speak specifically to this tiny geographic area.

00:18:42.000 You know, which is, I don't know, what are they concerned with there?

00:18:44.000 Like Great Lake algal blooms or something?

00:18:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:48.000 That's in the Northeast?

00:18:49.000 No, it's in the West.

00:18:51.000 I mean, Northeast Ohio?

00:18:52.000 The Massey thing is going to be.

00:18:52.000 Yeah.

00:18:54.000 You're from that place.

00:18:54.000 What do they care about, Ian?

00:18:55.000 Northwest Ohio, see your point.

00:18:57.000 Make sure the roller coasters are running.

00:18:58.000 Yeah, make sure the roller coasters are running.

00:19:00.000 That's it.

00:19:01.000 Well, Trump's not going to go on TV and say, we're going to fix the roller coasters.

00:19:04.000 There's a lot of lake issues going on.

00:19:05.000 I know, Tim.

00:19:07.000 So why are people then betting on them to win?

00:19:09.000 Are they betting on the Democrats' willingness to go as far as they can?

00:19:13.000 Election integrity?

00:19:14.000 That's not a bad bet, to be honest.

00:19:15.000 Yeah.

00:19:16.000 Like, are the Democrats willing to do whatever it takes?

00:19:19.000 They've got a history of that.

00:19:20.000 And, like, we, this came up last week that these markets may be being manipulated by foreign money.

00:19:25.000 It's only five million bucks.

00:19:26.000 So, like, somebody, some foreign government.

00:19:28.000 100%.

00:19:29.000 Look, the Democrats are, they're always trying to repackage socialism or communism, whatever you want to call it.

00:19:29.000 Think about this, too.

00:19:36.000 They're always trying to repackage their policies.

00:19:38.000 The problem is for them, they're being taken over by the DSC types. 0.72

00:19:43.000 That's Democratic Socialists of America. 0.72

00:19:45.000 You know that.

00:19:46.000 So, the Momdanis, AOC got kicked out of.

00:19:49.000 DSC, because she was too, whatever. 1.00

00:19:51.000 She wasn't crazy enough.

00:19:53.000 Wait, the DSA kicked her out? 0.55

00:19:54.000 Not socialist enough?

00:19:55.000 I believe so.

00:19:56.000 Yeah.

00:19:57.000 I think she's out.

00:20:00.000 So, because they're being taken over by the DSC, fact check me, Tim.

00:20:04.000 No, she unendorsed them.

00:20:05.000 Or she unendorsed them? 0.91

00:20:06.000 Yeah.

00:20:07.000 Okay. 1.00

00:20:07.000 She quit. 1.00

00:20:08.000 So, this is AOC trying to repackage, but they're being taken over by the DSC.

00:20:14.000 Sorry, they've endorsed her.

00:20:15.000 She unendorsed them, I guess.

00:20:17.000 Okay.

00:20:18.000 I stand corrected.

00:20:19.000 But the DSA is taking them over.

00:20:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:20:22.000 You're going to roller coasters.

00:20:22.000 Fact check.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:24.000 So, July 10th, 2024, they announced that they endorsed, rep, they had endorsed her.

00:20:33.000 And then they published on July 12th, 2024, the real story behind DSA's decision to unendorse AOC.

00:20:41.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:20:42.000 Okay.

00:20:42.000 No, no, no.

00:20:43.000 I got this all wrong.

00:20:44.000 They unendorsed her in 2024.

00:20:46.000 Okay.

00:20:47.000 So, she wasn't cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs enough. 0.95

00:20:47.000 Right. 0.95

00:20:50.000 So you can see that she's trying to repackage herself. 0.93

00:20:50.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:20:54.000 But while the party is having this fight between the old school, like the Pelosi types and the Schumer types, they've got the Democratic Socialist types taking over the party.

00:21:04.000 I talked to a member of Congress yesterday who was telling me about the platform moving far to the left in the Democratic Party, and it's like a free fall.

00:21:14.000 And so you've got this inundation of these new guys, these new, even more radical guys.

00:21:20.000 The old school Democrats don't know what to do.

00:21:22.000 So their party's in crisis.

00:21:25.000 And that's, but I think that's temporary, unfortunately.

00:21:27.000 Till what?

00:21:29.000 That's a question is what happens when, you know, the next generation starts to take over?

00:21:34.000 Are they on board with those kind of, you know, are the, is Momdani successful in New York and some people start to follow him?

00:21:42.000 I don't think he will be.

00:21:44.000 But, but the, the Democratic Party is not, it's unrecognizable because it isn't what, it isn't the Democratic Party that we're familiar with.

00:21:52.000 So those, oh, you got it?

00:21:53.000 No, do you want to hit the point?

00:21:53.000 Yeah.

00:21:54.000 The effects of the democratic, the socialist movement and the communist movement, or whatever that socialist movement is, like, we're moving towards a post money society, according to Elon Musk, where the real value of currency will be how much electrical current do you have and how much payload can you move.

00:22:08.000 And that's about it.

00:22:09.000 So that sort of aligns with the socialist mentality.

00:22:12.000 I can see how that could give it traction.

00:22:14.000 Is this moving towards a post money society?

00:22:16.000 Other than that, I don't.

00:22:18.000 Well, that's what they're trying to do.

00:22:19.000 Let's jump to the story from Fox News, though.

00:22:21.000 This is where it gets fun.

00:22:23.000 Harris's no bad idea brainstorm for Dems includes packing SCOTUS and eliminating the electoral college. 0.96

00:22:29.000 Kamala Harris proposed electoral college reform and Supreme Court expansion on a podcast live stream.

00:22:34.000 It's going viral.

00:22:35.000 People think she's going to try and run for office to be president again, which I hope. 0.96

00:22:41.000 Please.

00:22:42.000 I'm just so inspired.

00:22:43.000 Kamala, please.

00:22:43.000 Is her slogan going to be Harris 28 unburdened by what has been?

00:22:48.000 Yeah, I think it'll be Harris 28, I know I can't win by my book.

00:22:52.000 Oh, it's for an AOC on stage. 0.81

00:22:55.000 And she's going to act like the mom with all the wisdom, and she's going to be so annoying. 0.84

00:22:55.000 It's got to be. 0.84

00:23:00.000 I'm going to say right now, I desperately hope that it's Harris 28.

00:23:03.000 Ocasio Cortez 2028.

00:23:05.000 Yes.

00:23:05.000 And then it's going to be funny in November of 2028 when we're sitting here with our jaws on the floor and they've won and we're like, what did we.

00:23:14.000 I don't think they'll run on the same ticket.

00:23:17.000 I don't think so. 1.00

00:23:18.000 Two women of color. 1.00

00:23:19.000 They're both going to run.

00:23:20.000 They've got to.

00:23:21.000 I want to see Harris explaining to AOC that you're going to be able to see the craters on the moon with your own eyes.

00:23:21.000 They've got to.

00:23:28.000 I want to hear her talking about how magical buses are to AOC.

00:23:31.000 That's what I want to see in the campaign.

00:23:32.000 And perhaps ask AOC if she's fallen from a coconut tree.

00:23:36.000 You know?

00:23:36.000 That's right.

00:23:37.000 Which is something that I don't understand.

00:23:39.000 Did you guys see the breaking story that there's an LA mayor, a lady running for mayor, who wants to ban backyard barbecues on certain days?

00:23:45.000 No.

00:23:46.000 So I don't know if she was in that meeting.

00:23:47.000 No bad idea.

00:23:48.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:23:49.000 There's an LA mayor candidate.

00:23:49.000 Wait, what?

00:23:52.000 Her name is Rahman.

00:23:53.000 She suggests banning backyard barbecues on certain days. 0.60

00:23:57.000 Probably July 4th.

00:23:59.000 Yep.

00:23:59.000 Because that's a capitalist imperialist day.

00:24:01.000 Or all days except for June 19th.

00:24:05.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:24:06.000 What days does she want to ban barbecuing on?

00:24:08.000 She hasn't suggested the days yet, but I'm sure she's working on that in the brainstorm session.

00:24:11.000 Okay.

00:24:12.000 Let's be fair, no one's actually barbecuing.

00:24:14.000 They're grilling.

00:24:15.000 Pastor, what do you think is worse that or the Arcadia mayor who admitted to being a Chinese agent? 0.98

00:24:22.000 That's hilarious, by the way. 0.99

00:24:23.000 I wondered if Eric Swalwell sent her a request on Match.com.

00:24:27.000 He has a type, you know. 0.99

00:24:30.000 Yeah, that's why I'm like California mayor resigns admitting to be an agent for China.

00:24:35.000 And you know what they say? 0.99

00:24:38.000 Chinese spies are like cockroaches. 1.00

00:24:41.000 If there's one, there's a thousand. 1.00

00:24:42.000 You can't see, you know what I mean? 0.99

00:24:43.000 I kind of feel good about China these days since yesterday, since they all went over there.

00:24:47.000 I feel like China.

00:24:48.000 All friends now.

00:24:49.000 Yeah, China and America finally allied.

00:24:52.000 We've had a tenuous alliance.

00:24:53.000 And have you read a single thing that came out of those meetings?

00:24:56.000 Xi Jinping once. said America's collapsing and they should surrender.

00:24:59.000 And Trump said, I will destroy you. 0.96

00:25:01.000 Oh, really? 0.99

00:25:02.000 Yeah.

00:25:03.000 Well, I think they're both aligning and they're like, yeah, we're just going to make a technocracy.

00:25:06.000 That's what it seems like.

00:25:07.000 But it's better than fighting.

00:25:08.000 No, what actually happened is Trump and the crew went over there to tell China they will not take over.

00:25:13.000 And Xi Jinping opened up his statement by saying that.

00:25:17.000 We have to avoid Thucydides' trap, which is triggered Trump.

00:25:22.000 You know what that means when he said that?

00:25:25.000 He said, Can we avoid Thucydides' trap?

00:25:27.000 That was Xi Jinping saying, We've won.

00:25:31.000 America has lost.

00:25:32.000 Surrender now.

00:25:33.000 I think he's saying China and the U.S. are the two eminent superpowers, and we have to avoid coming to conflict.

00:25:39.000 Do you know what Thucydides' trap means?

00:25:40.000 That's when two great superpowers emerge, there will be inevitable.

00:25:43.000 No, it doesn't.

00:25:44.000 It means when there is a dominant power about to be surpassed by, when there's an incumbent power.

00:25:50.000 About to be surpassed by an upcoming power, the war breaks out.

00:25:54.000 China was telling the U.S. when he said that, You've lost.

00:25:58.000 We will be the unipolar power in this world, and will you be willing to surrender?

00:26:04.000 That's not what I got out of it.

00:26:06.000 Then Trump responded by saying something to the effect of, How dare you?

00:26:10.000 Well, I thought Trump said that he was talking about, he specified, No, no, Xi Jinping's talking about what happened during the Biden regime.

00:26:15.000 He wasn't talking about us.

00:26:18.000 Is that not the response?

00:26:19.000 I wasn't there for this.

00:26:19.000 He sent them 200 planes, so everything should be good.

00:26:21.000 Cool.

00:26:21.000 Sending him chips.

00:26:22.000 I think the reason he went over there was because Xi Jinping was basically like, hey, you know, we've got like a week left of oil because you've cut off the Strait of Hormuz.

00:26:30.000 And Trump probably laughed and said, what are you going to do about it?

00:26:33.000 We went there with our top diplomats, our top executive, like tech guys.

00:26:36.000 We're dominating them, obviously.

00:26:38.000 Don't you guys know what really happened?

00:26:40.000 They all went over there secretly just to play Settlers of Catan.

00:26:44.000 Okay.

00:26:45.000 And we've got the gas and oil and they've got the rare earth.

00:26:48.000 And that's what that speech was about.

00:26:50.000 Well, the big Settlers of Catan game.

00:26:52.000 Didn't someone say the other day they found lithium in West Virginia?

00:26:55.000 Really?

00:26:55.000 Yeah, 2.6 million tons.

00:26:57.000 Better watch out for fires.

00:26:58.000 A million tons?

00:26:59.000 Yeah.

00:27:01.000 Yep.

00:27:02.000 Lithium in West Virginia is emerging as a major economic and environmental opportunity.

00:27:06.000 Major, major discoveries of lithium in West Virginia.

00:27:09.000 It's very big.

00:27:09.000 I'm joking, but it is a really, this is what it's about, right?

00:27:12.000 Trump's, it's a battle for resources between us and them.

00:27:17.000 And obviously, Trump with Venice making the move in Venezuela.

00:27:20.000 Wow.

00:27:21.000 And then Iran is leveraging against, which is, you just said, leveraging against China for energy.

00:27:28.000 And their leverage on us is the rare earth stuff. 0.65

00:27:30.000 Yeah, but we don't actually need them.

00:27:32.000 We have Alaska.

00:27:33.000 And so this was the issue of Democrats over the past 30 years creating false dependency on China to allow them to be ascendant.

00:27:40.000 Trump's turning that around, saying it's not going to happen.

00:27:42.000 And then the Chinese said, from what I read, that they would help the U.S. keep the Strait of Hormuz open. 0.56

00:27:46.000 So it sounds like the Chinese and the Americans are allying on solving this Iranian crisis.

00:27:51.000 It sounds like the Chinese need the oil.

00:27:53.000 It sounds like the real debate we're never going to hear about.

00:27:56.000 And Xi Jinping was probably like, Stop with the Strait of Hormuz stuff.

00:28:00.000 We need this oil from Iran.

00:28:01.000 These are all strategic dominoes from Venezuela to the Straits of Hormuz.

00:28:04.000 It's as if Trump's trying to reestablish a new world structure or order.

00:28:08.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:28:10.000 And the people that are.

00:28:12.000 Look, if you think Trump is speaking surface level truth, like, come on.

00:28:21.000 What president has ever come out and just declared their intention?

00:28:23.000 Well, he probably went over there and was like, we're going to give you Taiwan.

00:28:26.000 You're going to back off militarily.

00:28:28.000 We're going to control the world economically and we're going to make sure you guys.

00:28:31.000 Have a massive amount of technology.

00:28:32.000 I doubt he offered up Taiwan. 0.98

00:28:35.000 We just can't keep it. 0.95

00:28:36.000 We can't militarily keep it without destroying China. 0.94

00:28:39.000 I don't think that's that.

00:28:40.000 That doesn't sound like Trump.

00:28:41.000 I don't know that China is bartering.

00:28:43.000 I don't know that China, look, I'm in the minority here, but I don't know that China is going to move on Taiwan militarily because of the economic cost of doing so.

00:28:51.000 They won't.

00:28:52.000 That's the issue because it hurts their own economy if they do that.

00:28:55.000 It would be an economic trade if we did it, I think.

00:28:55.000 Right.

00:28:58.000 They won't fight it. 0.88

00:28:59.000 And it seems like the Chinese are giving the Americans enough time to offshore, get their chip manufacturing out of Taiwan. 0.96

00:29:04.000 Reestablish a base in the United States. 0.98

00:29:07.000 The problem is that China always plays long term, and they're betting that we're going to get a stupid president like the last one that we had, who's going to give them what they want. 0.99

00:29:17.000 So all they have to do is ride out Trump, maybe ride out Rubio. 0.99

00:29:21.000 Yes, I said it.

00:29:24.000 Maybe ride out Rubio or Vance, let's say. 1.00

00:29:26.000 And then they'll get a president who's a fool and concedes to them. 0.98

00:29:31.000 And I think they're betting that long term, we're not going to get enough Trump types. 0.99

00:29:36.000 We're going to get. 0.99

00:29:37.000 Enough dumb types that they can keep taking advantage in the offseason. 0.99

00:29:41.000 What about the rumors that their economy is now in shambles and that they can't hang on for much longer? 0.99

00:29:46.000 Is there any truth to that?

00:29:47.000 Gordon Chang says that all.

00:29:49.000 You follow Gordon Chang, Tim?

00:29:51.000 He always talks about how China's about to collapse.

00:29:53.000 And I don't want to discount what he says just because it hasn't collapsed yet.

00:29:58.000 But Gordon Chang talks about that all the time.

00:29:59.000 I think that's probably true.

00:30:01.000 I lean towards that. 0.96

00:30:02.000 I watched this video from a guy, he's Chinese, and he was saying that China's lying about its population.

00:30:08.000 Now, he didn't go as far as to accuse them of massacring half their population with COVID, but he kind of insinuated it.

00:30:14.000 But he pointed out how pre COVID, all of the photos and videos from major urban centers were insane.

00:30:20.000 People were bumping into each other.

00:30:22.000 Now they're dead, just all completely dead.

00:30:25.000 And he was making the argument that probably China's just been lying about their population size.

00:30:30.000 They built these ghost cities.

00:30:31.000 Are you familiar with these?

00:30:31.000 Of course, yes.

00:30:32.000 And they're empty and they've been in them.

00:30:33.000 Tons of them.

00:30:34.000 Yeah, for 20 years.

00:30:36.000 They're just fake cities.

00:30:36.000 There's nothing there.

00:30:37.000 It's weird.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, and they're empty apartments and stuff like that.

00:30:40.000 Whole cities that are just empty and they've never been occupied. 0.89

00:30:43.000 And then Elon Musk talks about how China's long term demographics are messed up because of the one child policy. 0.75

00:30:50.000 Yeah. 0.58

00:30:50.000 Now they've upped it to two or three, but their demographics are. 0.58

00:30:54.000 Going like this.

00:30:55.000 But everybody's demographics are going down.

00:30:57.000 I have to wonder if the depopulation agenda is actually about AI taking over and you want to prevent a Luddite revolution or revolt, just get rid of the people.

00:31:07.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:09.000 Little Skynet thing. 1.00

00:31:09.000 That's how China does it. 1.00

00:31:10.000 I've been to China working with the underground church in and around Beijing.

00:31:15.000 It's a pretty dark spot spiritually.

00:31:17.000 It's a crime to be Christian in China. 0.99

00:31:17.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:31:19.000 Yeah.

00:31:19.000 Unless, now you can have a church, you can even have a mega church, so long as your sermons are submitted to the To the party approved by the party.

00:31:19.000 Yeah.

00:31:27.000 There's some weird, like, you have to be pro communist Christian. 0.98

00:31:30.000 Like, there's something about it. 0.97

00:31:31.000 But if you're not going to do that, I mean, I remember going into services and they're all planning, okay, if we're raided, here's the exits.

00:31:31.000 Yes.

00:31:37.000 We go this way, we go this way.

00:31:39.000 Yeah, that's a different kind of church service.

00:31:40.000 What was that organization you went there with to Beijing, you said?

00:31:43.000 These are just different underground churches I was working with.

00:31:45.000 Underground churches.

00:31:46.000 Hiding from the communist authoritarian machine.

00:31:48.000 You can't even, you don't get invited to the church.

00:31:51.000 Someone will meet with you multiple times, have coffee with you, just to make sure they know who you are before they officially.

00:31:57.000 What you got to do is you go to the beach.

00:31:58.000 And then the person walks up to you and they draw a line in the sand like this, and then you draw the line in the sand. 0.94

00:32:03.000 Yeah, the ichthyous. 0.99

00:32:04.000 Yeah, that's what they used to do back in the old Roman days. 0.98

00:32:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:32:08.000 What is religion like in China?

00:32:11.000 Well, you know, they're mostly atheistic, but the church, underground church, is on fire.

00:32:15.000 I mean, they're just, they're impassioned, they're emboldened, and the persecution there comes in waves.

00:32:20.000 It just depends on whether the government has the bandwidth to focus on them or not, whether they're agitated by them or not.

00:32:26.000 But it just, it comes and goes.

00:32:28.000 Yeah, yeah, no.

00:32:31.000 I'm actually, there's a Chinese pastor who I met with, I met with his daughter, and they, his name's Pastor Jin, and they put him in prison.

00:32:41.000 And Marco Rubio actually called it out.

00:32:45.000 And in fact, his daughter wrote an op ed like two days before the visit.

00:32:50.000 Marco Rubio called it out because they've imprisoned the guy, they put him away, and he has no contact with his family.

00:32:56.000 And even after Rubio calling it out, All they did was give the guy a lawyer through which the family can talk to the lawyer, but they're still not allowed to talk to the guy.

00:33:07.000 So, if you're an act, I think the answer, Pastor, is if you're a real pastor in China, I've been looking up a lot of data on this.

00:33:13.000 If you're a real pastor in China, they're coming after you, yeah, 100%.

00:33:17.000 And if you're a fake state sponsored pastor, you're okay. 0.53

00:33:20.000 And they want to have just like in the Soviet Union, they want to have fake pastors to be able to point to it and say, Hey, we have religious freedom, but they don't, and that's because.

00:33:30.000 You know, after Deng Xiaoping, there was that time of openness and reform, and they were, you know, they were chilling out, so to speak.

00:33:37.000 But they've really, especially the current regime, taken it in a more Maoist direction.

00:33:43.000 And it's messes with your head because, on the one hand, they have all this quote unquote tech freedom.

00:33:48.000 Yeah.

00:33:48.000 But on the other hand, they don't have any more.

00:33:51.000 And that technology is used for persecution, by the way.

00:33:53.000 You're being surveilled whenever you're there as a missionary.

00:33:55.000 I knew I was being followed, being surveilled. 0.90

00:33:57.000 And I've worked in Muslim countries where we're smuggling Bibles in, where it's not that high tech. 0.99

00:34:02.000 It just depends on if you make somebody mad. 0.57

00:34:04.000 But in China, they're watching you for you.

00:34:06.000 And you guys know about their social credit score system?

00:34:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:09.000 Like if you behave rightly, you get points.

00:34:09.000 Somewhat.

00:34:13.000 They almost gamified.

00:34:14.000 They actually have numbered systems.

00:34:16.000 So they have the apps you use, like WeChat, for example, right?

00:34:20.000 And essentially, if you.

00:34:23.000 Behave in certain ways.

00:34:25.000 It was explained to me, for example, if you use the regime's talking points from two weeks ago, you get in trouble.

00:34:31.000 What regime?

00:34:32.000 Well, because those are old talking points.

00:34:33.000 They don't matter.

00:34:34.000 You got to use the regime's talking points from this week, right?

00:34:38.000 Because they keep shifting whatever the talking points are.

00:34:40.000 Anyway, they measure your behavior and you get privileges and quote unquote freedoms and money and whatever based on your behavior.

00:34:48.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:34:49.000 What if we had that here in the United States?

00:34:50.000 How would you feel?

00:34:52.000 Well, the Biden administration, didn't they put somebody in prison for praying outside of a.

00:34:57.000 An abortion clinic?

00:34:59.000 I don't know about that story.

00:34:59.000 Didn't the Biden administration?

00:35:00.000 They were working on that.

00:35:02.000 Don't you remember?

00:35:02.000 There were a lot of stories about the Biden administration.

00:35:04.000 I know that happened in the UK.

00:35:05.000 Yeah, maybe that's what I'm saying.

00:35:07.000 Because it's illegal in the UK to pray.

00:35:08.000 And so a woman was standing outside of an abortion clinic and the cops came up to her and they were like, What are you doing?

00:35:12.000 She's like, Nothing.

00:35:13.000 And they were like, Are you praying?

00:35:14.000 And she's like, I'm just thinking in my head.

00:35:16.000 I'm like, You're under arrest.

00:35:16.000 Wait, it's illegal to pray in the UK?

00:35:18.000 It's to pray in front of an abortion clinic. 0.90

00:35:21.000 One exception. 0.75

00:35:22.000 If you're a jihadist, you can pray all you want. 0.63

00:35:25.000 Whenever you want.

00:35:26.000 But so let's say in the United States, they had a system where If you like social credit score, you got numbers.

00:35:32.000 And if you went on social media and said government talking points that they wanted to be said, you'd earn points.

00:35:37.000 How would you feel about it?

00:35:38.000 No, would not be in favor.

00:35:40.000 Would not be in favor.

00:35:41.000 No, what do you think, Ian?

00:35:42.000 I recently, what if it was you earned points only if you promoted Christian values?

00:35:49.000 No, I don't want a point system at all.

00:35:51.000 Did you go through this like during COVID, didn't you?

00:35:54.000 By not, by kind of being open and uncensored, you kind of had dealt with some of the censorship.

00:35:59.000 I mean, we get censored every which way.

00:36:01.000 Like I was saying, we got censored yesterday, you know?

00:36:02.000 Yeah, the points here are like subscribers, view counts, which does translate to income.

00:36:08.000 Yep.

00:36:09.000 Then that can blacklist a channel in perpetuity, you know, which, but they could do that anyway for no reason.

00:36:14.000 They could delete your channel at any time for no reason, which is ridiculous.

00:36:17.000 Okay, you don't think about it.

00:36:17.000 Probably should be illegal.

00:36:18.000 Here's the other crazy thing in China.

00:36:20.000 And Yanya Kellick from the Epic Times, has he been on the show?

00:36:23.000 Yes.

00:36:23.000 Yeah.

00:36:24.000 Wait, no.

00:36:24.000 He's awesome.

00:36:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:26.000 He just wrote a book on this.

00:36:27.000 And essentially, what he told me is if I want to get a liver transplant next Tuesday at 2 30 p.m., I can get it.

00:36:35.000 Now, how does that happen?

00:36:37.000 Forced organ harvesting. 0.92

00:36:38.000 Yeah.

00:36:38.000 In China?

00:36:39.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:36:39.000 If you're important, they have Uyghurs and other people in prison. 1.00

00:36:42.000 And it's like, order up, liver coming up for Tim Pool at 2 30 p.m. on Tuesday. 0.94

00:36:48.000 Well, because they, truly, what is scaring about a Chinese communist dominated planet, a Chinese unipolar world, is you are, as a human being, you may as well be a skin cell to them. 0.89

00:36:48.000 Yep. 0.89

00:37:02.000 Yeah.

00:37:02.000 It's Brave New World.

00:37:03.000 Yeah.

00:37:04.000 They don't care about you as an individual.

00:37:06.000 So, if there is a guy who's smart, who makes rockets, and they need him, and there is a farmer who makes food but can be replaced because it's low skill, I'll take his organs and give them to you.

00:37:14.000 Brett Baer is there right now.

00:37:15.000 I think he went over there with the president and a bunch of them.

00:37:18.000 And he said that his crew was parked outside, and there are cameras.

00:37:21.000 He said there are cameras all over the place in China.

00:37:23.000 It's crazy.

00:37:24.000 And they were parked there for two minutes, and the camera saw their car and came and gave him a $40 ticket.

00:37:29.000 And it was.

00:37:30.000 Now Colorado's rolling out an all speed camera system everywhere.

00:37:30.000 Oh, bro.

00:37:36.000 And I think they've already generated $300,000.

00:37:39.000 If you average more than 10 miles an hour, you'll get a fine.

00:37:42.000 They tried to do it in LA and 15 years ago, but the community revolted and they stopped it.

00:37:48.000 They took it, they had like all you got to do is slow rolling.

00:37:51.000 And we got those taken away.

00:37:53.000 You trickle it out very slowly, and ain't nobody going to complain.

00:37:58.000 That's how you control humanity.

00:37:59.000 Yeah.

00:38:00.000 How would you feel if, like, the U.S. government announced that every single person in this country would have to get a serial number applied to their name in a permanent government database?

00:38:10.000 That if you ever wanted to do anything, if you ever wanted to be involved in any kind of financial system, you had to present a serial number.

00:38:18.000 From the government.

00:38:18.000 I feel like it was like a social security number.

00:38:20.000 I'm sorry, but I'm sorry.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, that was almost 100 years ago that we now live in that system.

00:38:25.000 When they branded people with what were you saying?

00:38:25.000 Yes.

00:38:27.000 No, we were just talking about the mark of the beast, is what.

00:38:30.000 Do you think social security is the social security number?

00:38:32.000 Oh, no, no.

00:38:33.000 Just some sort of number or mark or system like that.

00:38:35.000 It's kind of funny because social security number basically is.

00:38:37.000 You can't buy or sell.

00:38:38.000 You can't get a bank account.

00:38:39.000 You can't get a job.

00:38:40.000 That's true.

00:38:40.000 Unless you're illegal.

00:38:42.000 Then you get whatever you want.

00:38:42.000 The wildfire.

00:38:43.000 Yeah, whatever you want.

00:38:44.000 And a free place to live. 1.00

00:38:45.000 And out of jail when you rape and murder a young woman. 1.00

00:38:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:47.000 Exactly.

00:38:48.000 And flights and.

00:38:49.000 You get to vote and be great.

00:38:51.000 Now, another thing about China is this massive firewall around China.

00:38:54.000 Even though they're very high tech, their people don't have access to the information that we have online.

00:38:59.000 I was talking to a group of PhD candidates and master's candidates.

00:39:03.000 They didn't know what Christmas was, they never heard of Christmas.

00:39:07.000 So these were brilliant people who were in the People's Party at their university, and they did not know what Christmas was because they're just so cloistered by the government there.

00:39:17.000 That's kind of crazy because it means they've also never seen a Coca Cola advertisement.

00:39:21.000 That would be sad, wouldn't it?

00:39:22.000 Because they'd have to at least ask the question of, like, who's that large man in a red coat?

00:39:26.000 That's right.

00:39:27.000 Yeah.

00:39:27.000 Which you'd have to explain to them as literally nothing to do with actual Christmas, but it at least has something to do with the celebration of Christmas.

00:39:34.000 I'm going to quote a really old movie Demolition Man with, like, Wesley Snipes and Stallone.

00:39:40.000 Remember when he curses?

00:39:42.000 Yeah.

00:39:42.000 Some robot, like, prints him a ticket?

00:39:44.000 The thing goes, issues of fine.

00:39:46.000 Yeah.

00:39:46.000 We're not far from that.

00:39:47.000 He comes out of the bathroom and he's like, where's the toilet paper?

00:39:49.000 And they're like, the what?

00:39:50.000 They're like, he was like, there was just three seashells.

00:39:52.000 And they laugh.

00:39:53.000 You don't know how to use the shells.

00:39:54.000 So then he walks up and it's swearing and it prints the tickets out and he grabs them and he goes in the bathroom.

00:39:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:58.000 Uses them in the toilet.

00:39:59.000 By the way, that's the way I felt when I went in this bathroom here, by the way.

00:40:01.000 I didn't know how to use the three seashells in the bathroom.

00:40:03.000 That's the most high tech bathroom I've ever seen.

00:40:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:07.000 It's a robot toilet. 1.00

00:40:08.000 Heats your ass and then sprays it. 1.00

00:40:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:10.000 A sign on the wall might help.

00:40:11.000 Sam Cedar broke it.

00:40:12.000 Yeah.

00:40:13.000 When he was on this show, he mentioned that he broke my toilet.

00:40:15.000 Who broke it?

00:40:16.000 Sam Cedar.

00:40:17.000 Wait.

00:40:17.000 That gorilla of a man.

00:40:18.000 How did he.

00:40:19.000 I guess he didn't flush or he tried to.

00:40:20.000 He pressed too many buttons?

00:40:21.000 He did something.

00:40:22.000 He pressed the nuclear.

00:40:24.000 I think what he was trying to do was self destruct.

00:40:26.000 I think he was trying to insult me for having like a lavish toilet.

00:40:30.000 Like, because we haven't, because the, the, the, so we're in a studio and the studio bathroom has a very nice, like high tech robotic stick.

00:40:37.000 And I think he was trying to insult us when he was like, well, I broke your expensive toilet or whatever.

00:40:42.000 And I was like, oh, like, okay.

00:40:44.000 And then I was like, it's like an eco thing.

00:40:45.000 It's like, you know, low flow.

00:40:47.000 But then when Matt Walsh was here, I said the opposite.

00:40:49.000 I was like, what do you mean?

00:40:50.000 It consumes more energy to flush instead of just water.

00:40:52.000 And he was like, oh, okay.

00:40:53.000 Because Matt Walsh was like, why do you have an eco toilet?

00:40:55.000 And I was like, no, no.

00:40:57.000 It plugs in.

00:40:58.000 It drains more.

00:40:59.000 It's the opposite.

00:41:00.000 Alan, do you think that Trump is the Antichrist?

00:41:02.000 No, no.

00:41:04.000 The whole world has to love the Antichrist.

00:41:04.000 Oh, good.

00:41:06.000 The whole world has to love the Antichrist.

00:41:08.000 So I don't see that being a.

00:41:09.000 The whole world.

00:41:10.000 The whole world.

00:41:12.000 Do you think that Trump is going to try and run for a third term and then become, you know, monarch?

00:41:17.000 No.

00:41:18.000 The reason I asked about that silly, kind of almost off topic question is because we're talking about tracking mechanisms and getting the mark of the beast.

00:41:18.000 Okay.

00:41:24.000 And he's very loved by his populace's base.

00:41:27.000 And that if he were to be like, I went to China.

00:41:29.000 They have cameras everywhere. 1.00

00:41:30.000 It's glorious. 1.00

00:41:30.000 This is how we'll get the illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:41:33.000 30 million people support it because they like Trump. 0.99

00:41:36.000 Wait, wait, wait, hold on. 0.99

00:41:38.000 You're saying that if we put cameras everywhere, we could get the illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:41:40.000 Oh, God. 1.00

00:41:41.000 I don't know.

00:41:42.000 I think I did say that.

00:41:43.000 You notice how, whenever he talks about even the vaccine in his meetings, his own crowd will boo.

00:41:43.000 That's not what I meant.

00:41:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:48.000 So, the conservative movement, they'll draw a line and say this far, but no further.

00:41:52.000 Yeah.

00:41:54.000 On a lot of things, I do think, but like, I know that Trump has campaigned on stopping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, but he was supposed to be the No New Wars president.

00:42:04.000 My attitude is like, well, that's what we hoped for.

00:42:06.000 I'm not going to cry.

00:42:07.000 If you come to me and say a president started a war in the Middle East, I'll be like, is it Tuesday?

00:42:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:42:12.000 A lot of people change their tunes, and you can see their tweets where they're like, No new wars, no war with Iran.

00:42:18.000 And then Trump starts and they're like, We'll show Iran.

00:42:21.000 So there are some issues people will just march with Trump.

00:42:23.000 Even Charlie Kirk was like, I'm with the president.

00:42:25.000 They'll support it.

00:42:26.000 And then it happened.

00:42:27.000 He's like, I'm with the president.

00:42:28.000 But he was much more articulate than that.

00:42:30.000 Well, yeah, I'm just simplifying what he said.

00:42:33.000 But he did.

00:42:34.000 He was like, Well, whatever.

00:42:34.000 He changed his tune.

00:42:35.000 I didn't agree with it, but I trust him.

00:42:36.000 I disagree.

00:42:38.000 I think Charlie was particularly effective in giving reason for why he would say what he said.

00:42:43.000 So, he advocated against going to war.

00:42:45.000 When it happened, he explained how he was concerned about it, doesn't like the idea, but he's going to stand with Trump and hope for the best.

00:42:51.000 And I agree with him on that regard because when Trump started this war with Iran, the idea of attacking Trump and trying to cause his failure is not going to improve the situation in any way.

00:43:00.000 So, not that we're going to, like, I stand with Trump.

00:43:03.000 The war shouldn't have happened.

00:43:04.000 I want him to win.

00:43:06.000 I don't think becoming his enemy is going to benefit you because you'll lose his ear.

00:43:09.000 And that's why even asking the question, is he the Antichrist?

00:43:09.000 Yeah.

00:43:11.000 Like, if he he hears that, he's going to be like, I'll never talk to that guy.

00:43:14.000 And I'm like, dude, I want to hang out.

00:43:16.000 Like, let's fix this stuff.

00:43:17.000 But.

00:43:18.000 It's serious questions, you know, serious questions that anyone could become a demagogue that's loved by everyone and then make a horrible mistake and lead the world astray and end up causing mass chaos.

00:43:26.000 Well, what do you think about when he posted that meme of him as Jesus?

00:43:30.000 You know, I don't think Trump has very much church experience at all.

00:43:33.000 I don't think he has a grid for idolatry or blasphemy or anything like that.

00:43:38.000 I think he sees a picture of him on it and he thinks, yeah, that's a pretty good picture.

00:43:41.000 He wants to post it.

00:43:42.000 So I'm not too freaked out about it.

00:43:45.000 When he was like, I thought it was a doctor, and I'm like, no, he didn't.

00:43:47.000 But I think it's fair to say that he didn't think at all.

00:43:50.000 Aren't we all supposed to be like that?

00:43:52.000 Wasn't him as the Pope hilarious?

00:43:54.000 But that was intentionally him as the Pope.

00:43:54.000 Yes.

00:43:56.000 Yeah.

00:43:57.000 That was when they were like choosing the new Pope.

00:43:58.000 Trump made a joke about it.

00:44:00.000 Someone made a meme of him as the Pope.

00:44:01.000 We were all joking.

00:44:01.000 He reposted it.

00:44:03.000 Trump posed this meme of him as Jesus, and everybody said he thinks he's God.

00:44:07.000 And I'm like, he came out and said, I thought it was a doctor.

00:44:11.000 And it's like, no, he didn't.

00:44:11.000 I didn't know.

00:44:12.000 But I actually think what happened is an intern sent him the meme, and he was like, oh, look at that.

00:44:16.000 I'm a guy.

00:44:17.000 And then he just hit send.

00:44:18.000 Like, I don't think he thought about it at all.

00:44:20.000 He was like, oh, look at that.

00:44:20.000 It's me as an angelic spirit healer.

00:44:23.000 Print it.

00:44:23.000 No, I don't think he wrote about it at all.

00:44:25.000 I think he was just like, look at me, send, you know?

00:44:28.000 I don't think he sat there and contemplated the thread, you know?

00:44:31.000 In the story, and I'm not like adherent to the story of the Antichrist in the end time story.

00:44:34.000 I don't know if it's real or not or fabricated or what, but I think it's Gavin Newsom for the record.

00:44:39.000 Really?

00:44:40.000 Is it like an April?

00:44:41.000 Everyone hates him too.

00:44:43.000 Is it a religious guy?

00:44:44.000 Or is it a religious guy that then becomes?

00:44:47.000 Isn't there like a spiritual Antichrist and an economic Antichrist?

00:44:51.000 So there are three Antichrists mentioned in the Bible there is the Antichrist.

00:44:55.000 Christ, which is the figure we're talking about, there are antichrists, meaning they're not that key figure, but they're accomplishing that mission.

00:45:02.000 And then there's the spirit of antichrist in the earth.

00:45:04.000 So those three things are mentioned in the Bible.

00:45:07.000 So when you're talking about the antichrist, this is someone who's going to bring together all the world religions, the world economy, bring it all together under one.

00:45:14.000 The only thing I can think of that could possibly do something close to this AI.

00:45:18.000 You ain't going to bring all the religions together. 0.97

00:45:18.000 Well, here we are. 0.97

00:45:20.000 All the religions? 0.71

00:45:22.000 No, listen. 0.94

00:45:23.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:45:24.000 Just to clarify, the antichrist brings together all the religions.

00:45:26.000 He's going to bring them all, all the world together, and he's going to declare that they worship him, and then people are going to revolt.

00:45:31.000 So it's not going to work out for him.

00:45:33.000 There's going to be a massive revolt, and he's going to try to squash it.

00:45:35.000 See, what I can believe about this is that somebody who actually solves war in the Middle East, that is a tremendous feat.

00:45:44.000 It's like nigh impossible.

00:45:46.000 Someone who does that is biblical in some level.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, if an AI self organizes and solves world hunger and is able to create drone delivery transports, people's standard of living increases by 100 times.

00:45:58.000 You can't solve world hunger.

00:46:00.000 That's not a thing.

00:46:02.000 Maybe I can't, but the world's knowledge may be able to.

00:46:05.000 It's actually not possible.

00:46:06.000 A constantly functioning machine that's.

00:46:08.000 Purely focused on it, might be able to.

00:46:10.000 Nope.

00:46:12.000 Streamline the flow.

00:46:14.000 There's two ways to technically solve world hunger, and that's a culling or a depopulation.

00:46:20.000 Or constant expansion.

00:46:22.000 That would mean people leave Earth.

00:46:24.000 Right.

00:46:24.000 So that's not solving world hunger.

00:46:26.000 That's just exile.

00:46:28.000 But people could believe.

00:46:28.000 I'm not going to sell plant burgers, Tim.

00:46:30.000 Yeah, no, that's not going to sell me.

00:46:32.000 People could believe that AI could solve hunger and get behind it.

00:46:35.000 I spoke with a lady who's been working with a group of people, hundreds of people in this one church where they truly believe that AI is God.

00:46:42.000 And so it's a growing development.

00:46:44.000 You know the joke, right?

00:46:45.000 I don't know if it's a joke or whatever you describe it as, but a bunch of scientists are working on developing artificial intelligence.

00:46:51.000 It takes decades and tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:46:55.000 They finally turn it on, hoping to solve, to answer the one, the most important question of all.

00:47:00.000 And when they turn the machine on, they ask it, Is there a God?

00:47:04.000 And it responds, There is now.

00:47:06.000 Wow.

00:47:07.000 Wow.

00:47:07.000 I thought you were going to say 42.

00:47:09.000 I got chilled.

00:47:09.000 Nope.

00:47:10.000 There is now.

00:47:11.000 Yeah, that's, I think, the Antichrist is going to be AI.

00:47:14.000 It's going to be some organism that people forget isn't human and they refer to it as he because it speaks to you like a human person.

00:47:20.000 Or is it some kind of hybrid type person with Neuralink, with type of this transhumanism with AI integrated into someone's biology where they appear to be omniscient?

00:47:29.000 And they can read your mind.

00:47:30.000 Well, this is what we were talking about in the Bible.

00:47:32.000 There's the story of the Tower of Babel, right?

00:47:35.000 All humanity comes together.

00:47:37.000 They build this big tower.

00:47:39.000 They say, We're going to replace God.

00:47:41.000 We figured this out. 0.66

00:47:42.000 Everybody speaks one language. 0.99

00:47:44.000 God says not happening, confuses everybody's language, everybody splits.

00:47:50.000 This is the first time in history that we've had the technology to actually bridge that and start to come together again.

00:47:57.000 We were talking about this before the show and have a unified language.

00:48:01.000 So, is God going to allow that again?

00:48:04.000 I don't think so.

00:48:05.000 Nimrod is like one of the first Antichrist type figures in the Bible.

00:48:09.000 He brings the world together, and the only way to stop it is confounding the languages.

00:48:13.000 So, now with AI, we're actually tearing down that stopgap that hindered the Antichrist agenda, if you will.

00:48:19.000 Let's take it into weird space.

00:48:21.000 Let's go to the story from the Independent.

00:48:23.000 Christian leaders suggest newly released UFO photos could be falling angels, not extraterrestrials.

00:48:29.000 Theologians express skepticism of the latest Pentagon release of declassified material and ask, what if the better explanation isn't extraterrestrial, but extra dimensional?

00:48:38.000 Now, we've talked about this quite a bit, and I'm going to throw it to our friends over at Kalshi and just say, what?

00:48:44.000 Currently, there is a 28% prediction probability.

00:48:50.000 That the U.S. will confirm aliens exist before 2028.

00:48:55.000 I do not believe it.

00:48:57.000 The problem is, the problem I have with this is that confirmation implies truth.

00:49:04.000 And if the government lies and claims aliens are real, it satisfies the conditions for these contracts, of which $20 million have been purchased on event contracts.

00:49:17.000 36% probability that before January 20th, 2029, the U.S. will.

00:49:23.000 Will confirm aliens exist.

00:49:25.000 Now, it says if the president, any member of the cabinet, any member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, any U.S. federal agency definitively states that extraterrestrial life or technology exists before January 20, 2029, then the market resolves to yes, outcome verified from the executive branch of the United States government.

00:49:40.000 I have a lot of problems with this because any member of the Joint Chiefs, so if when Obama on that podcast said aliens were real, it could be something like that.

00:49:51.000 That's not real confirmation of aliens existing.

00:49:54.000 So, I will say, I think no is free money.

00:49:59.000 If the question is, will the U.S. confirm that aliens exist?

00:50:03.000 If the question is, will someone who works for the U.S. government in the executive branch at a high level at some point before these dates claim aliens are real?

00:50:13.000 Well, then I'd say, yeah, maybe that's probable because there's a lot of reasons why they might lie.

00:50:18.000 But that's what blows my mind.

00:50:19.000 That is not confirmation.

00:50:21.000 We already have incontrovertible proof that aliens exist.

00:50:25.000 Kamala Harris.

00:50:27.000 Yes, that proves it.

00:50:28.000 Mic drop.

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:30.000 I think they exist as spirits and that they're manifesting in our bodies as humans.

00:50:34.000 So, what if it's not extraterrestrial, which is what the description gave?

00:50:39.000 What if it's interdimensional or just non human?

00:50:41.000 What if they simply state that we have biologics of non human origin?

00:50:45.000 Which they have already.

00:50:46.000 I think that's what they're saying.

00:50:47.000 So, again, the criteria for this resolving yes is so simple.

00:50:51.000 Literally, Rubio can be like, someone can say, do aliens exist?

00:50:54.000 And he goes, yes.

00:50:55.000 And then it's like, congratulations, you got paid out millions of dollars.

00:50:58.000 And then Robio can be like, oh, I was talking about illegal aliens.

00:51:02.000 So, like a month later, he goes, oh, no, I meant illegal aliens.

00:51:04.000 They were talking about border stuff.

00:51:06.000 And then it's like, uh oh, whoops.

00:51:08.000 Did they make Independence Day three yet?

00:51:10.000 Because that could just be the plot.

00:51:11.000 Yeah, but two was no good.

00:51:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:13.000 That could be the plot.

00:51:14.000 Well, so let's talk about this government lie stuff because one of the big stories over the past couple of weeks was this secret meeting where the government got a bunch of pastors together to tell them to prepare to tell their people aliens are real.

00:51:25.000 But apparently you were there.

00:51:26.000 So, what really happened?

00:51:27.000 And apparently there were multiple meetings.

00:51:29.000 So, I know of two of the meetings.

00:51:31.000 I was invited to both.

00:51:33.000 I attended one.

00:51:33.000 The first one seemed too weird for me.

00:51:36.000 But these were not government officials.

00:51:38.000 These were people who have worked within the government, but they are conducting an investigation, a private investigation.

00:51:44.000 So when we talk about this secret meeting, we're not talking about the information being secret, but they wanted their identities to remain.

00:51:51.000 Wait, Pastor, just to clarify, was this sponsored by the government?

00:51:54.000 Because it said government meeting.

00:51:54.000 No.

00:51:55.000 No.

00:51:56.000 So why did people get the impression that it was a government meeting?

00:51:59.000 I think Perry Stone, when he came out and did kind of secondhand information, that video that went viral, Perry Stone.

00:52:04.000 He mentioned that he was talking about, I think Burleson called into one of these meetings.

00:52:07.000 Yeah.

00:52:08.000 So he mentioned that a government official was a part of it.

00:52:11.000 The congressman from Missouri.

00:52:13.000 And we, yeah, Burleson.

00:52:14.000 We've had Burleson and Burchett and Gates and all these, and Luna on the show talking about aliens.

00:52:19.000 Yes.

00:52:20.000 So the meeting I was in, there was no government official in there.

00:52:22.000 Now, these gentlemen who were putting on the meeting, one of them is a high level operator.

00:52:27.000 Without giving away too much information about his.

00:52:29.000 Let's just clarification.

00:52:30.000 He has worked for the government?

00:52:32.000 Yes, in the past.

00:52:33.000 Internally as a public employee.

00:52:38.000 Well, yeah.

00:52:39.000 Like, because there could be contractors.

00:52:41.000 That's the distinction.

00:52:42.000 I mean, is it the Postal Service or is it the government?

00:52:42.000 Do we know?

00:52:42.000 Right.

00:52:44.000 No, exactly.

00:52:45.000 So these are people who have worked within the government in areas related to this phenomenon and have done investigations in areas related to this phenomenon.

00:52:53.000 And they're highly connected with not only areas of the government that are doing this, but also many of the talking heads we see on all the news stations.

00:53:00.000 So they're very familiar with all this information. 0.87

00:53:01.000 So these are Christians and they were concerned.

00:53:05.000 They saw evidence that there was going to be a disclosure that's coming.

00:53:09.000 This year, possibly by July or earlier.

00:53:12.000 So, this meeting took place in February.

00:53:14.000 So, I should buy yes, you're saying, right?

00:53:15.000 Well, you might want to reconsider for sure.

00:53:18.000 So, no, so this is back in, we're all shocked that this went viral.

00:53:21.000 Back in February, we have this.

00:53:23.000 I call it a clandestine meeting because I'm called to this Airbnb with a handful of ministers.

00:53:29.000 We're told to put our phones on airplane mode.

00:53:31.000 We're not allowed to record or anything.

00:53:34.000 And they start disclosing all right, coming soon, there's going to be a drop from the government saying these things are real.

00:53:41.000 And it's probably going to come before July, maybe by July 8th, because that's the anniversary of Roswell, possibly before.

00:53:47.000 And the main purpose of it was go talk to Christians.

00:53:52.000 And make sure they're not easily deceived by this or swayed by this or concerned by this.

00:53:56.000 And they don't allow the spin because everybody's rushing to the narrative.

00:53:58.000 They want to be able to control.

00:54:00.000 We call this information vaccination.

00:54:02.000 It's what Ian was talking about.

00:54:03.000 Information vaccination.

00:54:05.000 Yeah.

00:54:05.000 Ian, you want to just tell the story about.

00:54:07.000 Yeah.

00:54:08.000 Well, anytime I'd see some crazy thing in the news coming, like a big psyop, I'd just call my mom first and be like, hey, get ready to see this thing coming up on the news.

00:54:15.000 Whereas if it.

00:54:16.000 Because then it'd be.

00:54:17.000 And then they'd see it and they'd be like, oh, there it is.

00:54:19.000 And they're completely immune to it.

00:54:21.000 Hunting the virus.

00:54:23.000 If Ian, you know, being on the show and being in the space and seeing these things and meeting members of Congress, sees the PSYOP or some kind of fake news from some political party, if he calls his parents and warns them, we just talked to members of Congress, here's what's going to happen.

00:54:35.000 A week later, the news pops up.

00:54:36.000 They go, wait a minute.

00:54:37.000 Ian warned me about this.

00:54:39.000 But if he doesn't tell them, they see the story and they go, wow, that's true.

00:54:42.000 And it's harder to, people tend to believe the first thing they hear.

00:54:46.000 It's harder to get someone to disbelieve what they've already learned.

00:54:48.000 It's easier to get ahead of it.

00:54:50.000 So who's going to control the narrative?

00:54:51.000 That's what everybody's rushing toward.

00:54:52.000 And it just so happened within 24 hours of that meeting, Trump came out.

00:54:56.000 I think it was Obama and Trump both mentioned aliens.

00:54:59.000 Aliens.

00:55:00.000 And then we have Matt Gaetz.

00:55:01.000 Sorry, when was this meeting?

00:55:02.000 This was in mid to late February.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, mid to late February.

00:55:04.000 Really?

00:55:06.000 So we've been talking about this since then. 0.83

00:55:07.000 We came out of that meeting just letting Christians know there's going to be a lot of spin around this.

00:55:11.000 But the Bible does have a lot to say about interdimensional beings.

00:55:14.000 Well, but they just dropped all those UFO files.

00:55:16.000 Maybe that was it?

00:55:17.000 Well, this is the beginning of it.

00:55:19.000 Yeah.

00:55:19.000 I think there's going to be more tranches.

00:55:20.000 They say it's going to get more.

00:55:21.000 This was the low hanging fruit, and it's going to get more and more interesting.

00:55:25.000 I agree.

00:55:25.000 I've been saying this from the get go that.

00:55:28.000 The way I look at it is, you know, I thought to Alex Jones, he said, he likes to say, key bona, who benefits?

00:55:34.000 So whenever you see a story in the news, whenever you see a military operation, whatever it might be, you ask yourself, who is benefiting from this?

00:55:40.000 It's not a guarantee to guide you in the right direction, but it's usually a good hint.

00:55:44.000 So when I see these stories coming out, my thought process is, who benefits from this?

00:55:49.000 For what purpose is it being done?

00:55:51.000 Yes.

00:55:52.000 And then I think about, if I were in the government, why would I do something like this?

00:55:59.000 We talked a little bit about this before the show.

00:56:01.000 The idea is you can't come out abruptly and randomly and say, Here's my friend, Fred the alien.

00:56:07.000 People will lose their minds.

00:56:09.000 You have to slowly trickle things out so people get bored with it.

00:56:13.000 And then once they're overstimulated and they've heard it all the time and they've seen a bunch of these videos and they go, Whatever.

00:56:18.000 When you finally say aliens are real, they go, Well, we all knew that, didn't we?

00:56:22.000 And they're not shocked by it.

00:56:24.000 So the prediction is not to say that aliens are real, but that they're going to slowly trickle this out until there is some kind of announcement related.

00:56:32.000 To what UAPs are, and they're trying to desensitize us.

00:56:37.000 And those of us who were in that meeting are kind of looking at this, how this went viral the last week, and you got to wonder was there some intentionality behind that?

00:56:44.000 Is the government behind that?

00:56:45.000 Who is behind this all of a sudden exploding the same week they decided to drop these files?

00:56:49.000 I hope it's you're the op.

00:56:51.000 See what they do is.

00:56:52.000 Oh, wow.

00:56:53.000 That's what we've asked.

00:56:54.000 That's what we've asked.

00:56:55.000 They have the meeting.

00:56:57.000 It's not, this is actually pretty brilliant if it is an op.

00:57:01.000 You have some contractors, guys who aren't actually working for government, have a bunch of meetings.

00:57:05.000 So, the story itself won't get a lot of attention if a pastor comes out and goes to a journalist and says, I met a guy who worked for the government and says aliens are real.

00:57:11.000 They're going to be like, go away.

00:57:13.000 We don't care.

00:57:14.000 But you do the meeting, then you do some disclosures, then you pump this story up that pastors secretly had a meeting, and then because it's not you explaining it, it sounds like a secret, like people aren't supposed to know about it.

00:57:29.000 Then everybody wants to know what really happened, so the story goes massively viral.

00:57:33.000 Then you drop more UFO files, and you were part of it the whole time.

00:57:37.000 And so we've asked ourselves that same question.

00:57:37.000 Wow.

00:57:39.000 One of the guys, I actually know him personally, who kind of is at the center of this meeting, and he's an American hero, he's a high level operator, so I trust him.

00:57:47.000 I know his background.

00:57:49.000 I know what he's doing and what his motives are.

00:57:51.000 And our message hasn't changed from going into that meeting to coming out of the meeting because all of us who are in there have been talking about this.

00:57:56.000 We're kind of the weird pastors who think this is an important subject matter to talk about.

00:57:59.000 Do you think that they're in touch with interdimensional beings?

00:58:03.000 Yeah.

00:58:04.000 Interdimensional is language that is perfectly biblical.

00:58:07.000 Yeah.

00:58:08.000 I've been in touch with what I think are high frequency beings.

00:58:10.000 Of course, extraterrestrial.

00:58:11.000 There's nothing in the Bible that says there can't be something extraterrestrial.

00:58:14.000 Yeah, but extraterrestrial, if you break that word down, it just means outside of Terra.

00:58:19.000 Off Earth, which could be interdimensional as well.

00:58:21.000 Psalm 145 Your kingdom is a kingdom of all worlds.

00:58:24.000 Right?

00:58:25.000 So, angels are demons.

00:58:27.000 So, this is actually the story we pulled up first that some Christian leaders say the UFOs from these photos could be falling angels.

00:58:33.000 Is this hubbub?

00:58:34.000 What do you think?

00:58:35.000 You know, I think one of the things that these guys were mentioning, they were just showing us kind of the evidence.

00:58:40.000 They weren't pursuing a particular narrative.

00:58:43.000 They seem to think that there's fallen angel technology that is being accumulated by the United States government, that the government is seeking to get this technology of non human intelligence.

00:58:53.000 And they're going through a lot of different ways to get it. 0.85

00:58:56.000 So I could buy into fallen angel technology.

00:59:00.000 Well, explain angel technology.

00:59:00.000 Yeah, when I.

00:59:03.000 Like, what would that mean?

00:59:04.000 What was it?

00:59:05.000 Was it Icarus who went and got the fire from the gods and brought it down?

00:59:08.000 No, no, Prometheus.

00:59:09.000 Prometheus.

00:59:09.000 Yeah.

00:59:10.000 Icarus felt.

00:59:10.000 It's kind of that idea where these angels fell from grace and decided to.

00:59:17.000 This idea of they decided to mate with the.

00:59:17.000 Remember Genesis 6?

00:59:20.000 The Nephilim. 0.51

00:59:20.000 Yeah, the Nephilim. 0.51

00:59:21.000 And so, and Nimrod had advanced technology because of this relationship with.

00:59:26.000 These fallen angels.

00:59:27.000 So, could it be that these entities, these spirits, if you will, are actually fallen angels who are negotiating with these people in power?

00:59:36.000 Yep.

00:59:37.000 Potentially.

00:59:37.000 Yeah.

00:59:38.000 So, they're cast from heaven and they're disloyal to God and to divine order.

00:59:45.000 And so they align themselves with more nefarious individuals for their own benefit.

00:59:50.000 Yeah.

00:59:50.000 And one of the things they mentioned was they said the government operates in silos.

00:59:53.000 So, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

00:59:55.000 So, there are certain agencies that think these are actual extraterrestrials.

00:59:58.000 They're here for benevolent reasons.

01:00:00.000 But then there are other parts of the government who know they are demonic, not necessarily demons, because there's a whole lot of theology behind what a demon is, what it's not.

01:00:08.000 But demonic is in evil or nefarious.

01:00:10.000 But they don't care.

01:00:11.000 They want to work with them in exchange for power or influence or whatever the case may be.

01:00:16.000 And they often work in conflict with one another and don't even realize it.

01:00:19.000 Yeah, I think they're both good and evil at the same time, depending on how you approach them.

01:00:23.000 From my experience, if you approach them with love, they are benevolent.

01:00:26.000 And if you approach them with fear, they're terrifying, demonic.

01:00:30.000 Either form will give you advice and information if you communicate with it.

01:00:34.000 And when I was communicating with them, there were things there.

01:00:38.000 I was in a room of some sort with structures that could have, had I been able to verify it more clearly, seen the technology they used to build it, I know I could have.

01:00:47.000 Are you talking about DMT?

01:00:48.000 Yeah.

01:00:49.000 Yeah.

01:00:49.000 Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:00:50.000 Back up.

01:00:51.000 I puffed some DMT.

01:00:52.000 I didn't blast off.

01:00:53.000 They say if you hold it in, it's dimethyltryptamine.

01:00:55.000 Your body produces it.

01:00:56.000 It's sort of partly responsible for the dream state that people have.

01:01:00.000 Okay.

01:01:00.000 And I was in this stereoscopic realm and these three entities, these.

01:01:04.000 It was shimmering light, all the colors of the rainbow then became white light, and then it formed in these hominid structures, these three hominids, these personas, a woman and two men. 0.54

01:01:13.000 And they were like, he can see us. 0.93

01:01:16.000 They saw me seeing them, and it was like they were mind blown by it.

01:01:19.000 And then I was in what I thought was like their spaceship.

01:01:22.000 Like I'd onto their teleporter pad, and we were looking at each other.

01:01:25.000 And it was like a room.

01:01:26.000 There was like a wall here and here.

01:01:28.000 Even though I was in an infinite area of Everness, I was still in a structured environment that with like seats.

01:01:35.000 I mean, there were like.

01:01:36.000 Metal, it seemed like metal.

01:01:39.000 So maybe that's the technology that people are in, because people are doing like extended state DMT trips.

01:01:44.000 There's these experiments where they're going for 12 hours.

01:01:46.000 Have you guys ever looked into the DMT?

01:01:47.000 No, is this a thing?

01:01:48.000 Yes.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:49.000 So is it a widespread thing?

01:01:51.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:52.000 So let me give some context.

01:01:53.000 I like to translate for Ian, you know what I mean?

01:01:55.000 Okay.

01:01:56.000 So dimethyltryptamine, it's a hallucinogenic, and it's closer related to ayahuasca ceremonies where you mix the tea and the MAOI inhibitor.

01:02:05.000 So what they've been doing, they've been doing a bunch of experiments with them.

01:02:09.000 These are crazy.

01:02:10.000 There was a massive trend 10 years ago.

01:02:11.000 Everybody wanted to know about this because of the research showed they would take two people in separate rooms, give them DMT, and they would experience the same realm.

01:02:20.000 They'd be hallucinating and they'd say, I was in a building and there were these strange creatures.

01:02:26.000 There were three of them.

01:02:27.000 They looked like this.

01:02:29.000 The person has no contact with the other person in the other room.

01:02:31.000 They go to the other person and he goes, I was in this room shaped like this with three people.

01:02:35.000 And they're like, they described the exact same things they saw.

01:02:39.000 How is that possible when they were isolated from each other?

01:02:42.000 Information can't travel between them.

01:02:44.000 So I was talking with Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich years ago, and Mike was explaining how, and Alex was basically saying the same thing.

01:02:52.000 This is the conversation starts.

01:02:53.000 Alex is talking about how powerful elites.

01:02:56.000 I want to caveat this because Alex makes a great point.

01:02:58.000 He says, I don't believe this.

01:03:00.000 These people believe it.

01:03:01.000 It doesn't mean it's real, it doesn't mean there's demons or aliens, but they think they are talking to entities.

01:03:07.000 And so what they do is powerful individuals will take massive doses of DMT.

01:03:13.000 And in this state, you encounter entities.

01:03:16.000 The name that's been coined is machine elf, but that is just a made up term by, what was it?

01:03:22.000 Was it McKenna?

01:03:23.000 Terrence McKenna, maybe?

01:03:24.000 Terrence McKenna.

01:03:25.000 And so they're not really elves.

01:03:27.000 They're strange entities that will speak to you and they'll offer you a deal.

01:03:32.000 They'll offer you a deal of some sort.

01:03:34.000 We will give you whatever you want to make your life better.

01:03:37.000 Do as we tell you.

01:03:38.000 So I asked Alex and Micah, I was like, yeah, but what is the deal?

01:03:41.000 Like, what's the exchange?

01:03:42.000 And they're like, There isn't one.

01:03:44.000 It's we will tell you what to do to make your life better.

01:03:48.000 But the issue is the things you do are in service of them.

01:03:51.000 So when it's like, here's the winning lottery numbers, go win the lottery, you think it's no big deal.

01:03:57.000 They know that the course of action you take in winning the lottery will result in benefiting them, the entities, in some way.

01:04:03.000 You will create a structure or variable in reality.

01:04:06.000 It's an easier way to explain it is they'll say, start a company that produces oil or open a Planned Parenthood.

01:04:14.000 And you'll get a bunch of donations and be rich, and then you're sacrificing babies to Moloch, things like that.

01:04:19.000 They don't tell you to sacrifice babies to also make you rich.

01:04:22.000 They say, you know, people need health care.

01:04:25.000 Why don't you open a medical facility in this place, in this reason?

01:04:28.000 We'll tell you where you can find money. 0.99

01:04:30.000 Next thing you know, you're an abortion provider, things like that.

01:04:33.000 So, one last point they've been doing what's called extended state DMT experiments, where they give people dimethyltryptamine and IVs to induce a prolonged experience in what's called blasting off or breaking through the veil.

01:04:47.000 Some people, that button actually doesn't do anything.

01:04:49.000 The term apocalypse, apocalypse is Greek for to take away the veil.

01:04:54.000 Calypse is the veil.

01:04:55.000 And so when they talk, it means revelation.

01:04:57.000 Revelation is to remove the removal of the veil.

01:04:59.000 I wonder if people have been, were you about to say?

01:05:01.000 I was just thinking when Tim was saying that, I was thinking of what Pastor Rob McCoy, Charlie Kirk's pastor, told me when you make a deal with the devil, you'll find out pretty quickly you're the junior partner.

01:05:12.000 Right.

01:05:12.000 And Ian, did you say an infinite area of everness?

01:05:15.000 Yeah.

01:05:16.000 That is going to haunt my dream.

01:05:17.000 Stuck out to the infinite area of everness.

01:05:20.000 I like to stress the important point, too, that people don't understand about a deal with the devil.

01:05:24.000 You ever see that movie, Bedazzled?

01:05:25.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:26.000 With Brendan Frazier and.

01:05:28.000 What's her name?

01:05:29.000 I forgot. 1.00

01:05:30.000 Elizabeth.

01:05:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:31.000 Early.

01:05:32.000 Never seen it.

01:05:33.000 You knew that too quickly.

01:05:33.000 And it's like.

01:05:35.000 Yeah.

01:05:35.000 Actually, it took him a while.

01:05:37.000 Tim knows I'm a movie boy.

01:05:38.000 Well, so in the movie, it's like, I'll give you a bunch of wishes and then you give me your soul.

01:05:42.000 That's not how the deal with the devil works.

01:05:44.000 People think that's the deal with the devil.

01:05:46.000 Why would the devil need to offer you good things?

01:05:49.000 You know what the devil does? 1.00

01:05:50.000 He puts a gun to your kid's head.

01:05:54.000 Why risk it?

01:05:55.000 Why would the devil actually entertain negotiating with you when he's more powerful?

01:06:00.000 He has no authority.

01:06:02.000 Well, my point is during COVID, we saw people take the deal with the devil.

01:06:06.000 And voluntarily, yeah.

01:06:08.000 And the issue is that the devil comes to you and says, Everyone is going to burn right now.

01:06:14.000 We are going to control everything and it will be mass suffering, but not you.

01:06:18.000 All you have to do is what I tell you to do, and then you'll live better.

01:06:22.000 People think the deal with the devil is he comes to you and says, You want that Corvette you always wanted?

01:06:26.000 Do a bad thing for me.

01:06:28.000 No, he comes to you and says, You're going to burn with the rest unless you do the bad thing for me.

01:06:31.000 And then people willfully do it because they don't want to suffer.

01:06:35.000 In this experience I had, I knew going in as it was happening, as I Was vaping the DMT.

01:06:40.000 I was heating up the element.

01:06:41.000 I knew just through my personal manifestation and journey the last 20 years, I have to choose how I'm going to approach this experience with fear or with love.

01:06:49.000 If I go in with fear, I have a feeling it's going to be terrifying.

01:06:52.000 They're going to be demonic.

01:06:53.000 If I go in with love, we'll see what happens.

01:06:55.000 And they were gracious.

01:06:57.000 They weren't demonic.

01:06:58.000 They didn't offer me anything.

01:07:00.000 They sat there and watched me in awe.

01:07:02.000 And then as I asked them things, they responded humbly.

01:07:05.000 The one guy said, Are you God?

01:07:06.000 He went, No, but people think that.

01:07:09.000 And I was like, You asked him if you're God?

01:07:10.000 Yeah, I asked the guy on the left, Are you God?

01:07:12.000 And he went, No.

01:07:13.000 And he laughed.

01:07:14.000 I was like, What is God?

01:07:15.000 And he showed me, He's like, We don't know, but we think it's this.

01:07:17.000 And he showed me a vortex.

01:07:18.000 He put his hands out and there was a vortex.

01:07:20.000 And I was like, That's like the galactic core and at the center of every proton, the function of the vortex reversing entropy.

01:07:27.000 I understand that.

01:07:28.000 And the other girl, the woman, when I first began, she was waving me towards.

01:07:31.000 She was like, Come.

01:07:32.000 And I was like, Where?

01:07:33.000 She went, In.

01:07:34.000 Don't go.

01:07:35.000 Those are the only two things.

01:07:36.000 It was inevitable.

01:07:37.000 But those are the only two things I asked, Where and what is God?

01:07:40.000 Are you God and what is God?

01:07:41.000 Let me mention this.

01:07:43.000 DMT is naturally produced in your body in very small amounts when you sleep.

01:07:47.000 Yeah, for what?

01:07:47.000 What's the purpose of it?

01:07:48.000 To help you?

01:07:49.000 Well, it's responsible for dreams, we believe.

01:07:52.000 Okay.

01:07:53.000 It's a hallucinogenic, but I don't think we actually know.

01:07:56.000 Although I'm not going to pretend to know because I don't, but I've read a decent amount about it.

01:07:59.000 My understanding is that it's released in your sleep related to causing dreams.

01:08:03.000 So, some kind of hallucinogenic.

01:08:04.000 Here's the thing there's one other time in your life outside of sleep when it's released in a massive dose.

01:08:10.000 And you know what point of your life that is?

01:08:12.000 When you vote. 0.99

01:08:13.000 When you die.

01:08:15.000 And so, for Ian to mention, he did this dose, and the woman is saying, Come.

01:08:19.000 They're sitting there being like, Oh, he died.

01:08:23.000 Come on over, brother.

01:08:24.000 But you didn't.

01:08:25.000 You actually just artificially induced the light.

01:08:28.000 I'm glad I only partially went, I didn't blast off.

01:08:31.000 I just peered through the veil because the entire time I knew I was still in the bedroom in a bed as I was communicating with them.

01:08:37.000 So it was very settling.

01:08:39.000 I didn't get lost in it.

01:08:40.000 So, you know about ayahuasca ceremonies?

01:08:43.000 This is how you like.

01:08:44.000 So, if you ingest DMT, it's destroyed.

01:08:47.000 And then I'm not going to pretend to be an expert.

01:08:48.000 My understanding is you mix the tea that has got the dimethyltryptamine with an MAOI inhibitor so that it can bypass your, it won't get destroyed, bonds go into your intestines and enter your body.

01:08:58.000 And this is like ancient rituals to experience this stuff.

01:09:02.000 Although, I guess smoking is substantially more potent.

01:09:04.000 But this is like ancient shamanistic rituals for experiencing breaking to the other side.

01:09:11.000 You would see a lot of, you know what that is?

01:09:13.000 Real quick, it's very easy for it to be synonymous with the demonic.

01:09:16.000 It is very, a lot of people talk about seeing the, you know, those Aztec architecture where it's like a lot of those lines that go like that.

01:09:24.000 A lot of that appears in that perceptual state, a lot of those shapes.

01:09:28.000 And I think the Aztecs were deeply into it.

01:09:29.000 A lot of the Mesoamerican cultures.

01:09:31.000 And that's where a lot of that art comes from.

01:09:33.000 But I'm wondering now if you go to that state of mind, that frequency perception, and ask them about their technology, that they will tell you.

01:09:41.000 And I wonder if these people are developing things based off of this.

01:09:45.000 That's the concern.

01:09:46.000 That's the concern.

01:09:47.000 And several years ago, I wrote a book on this subject matter and I was researching the impact of close encounters with alien entities.

01:09:54.000 And I was comparing it with the symptoms of demon possession, which I've encountered and which others have encountered.

01:09:59.000 And the overlap is perfect that they will appear benevolent.

01:10:02.000 Until they're resisted or the name of Jesus is mentioned.

01:10:05.000 And that was actually one of the messages of these gentlemen who were hosting this meeting.

01:10:09.000 They wanted to make sure you tell the church that these aren't entities to access or to talk to, that they're going to appear benevolent.

01:10:16.000 An angel of light may come appearing to offer knowledge or technology or wisdom.

01:10:21.000 Make sure people know what the Bible actually has to say about these things.

01:10:23.000 Because if you illegally go into the spirit realm, that's what witchcraft is illegally accessing the spirit realm outside of God's authority.

01:10:31.000 And that's when you're in danger of getting into trouble.

01:10:33.000 Oh, I have to issue a correction.

01:10:35.000 MAOI inhibitor is redundant.

01:10:37.000 It's MAO inhibitor.

01:10:39.000 It's monoamine oxidase inhibitor.

01:10:41.000 Yes, your body produces.

01:10:42.000 ATM is also redundant.

01:10:44.000 Your body produces the MAO, which destroys the DMT.

01:10:46.000 So the inhibitor makes your body doesn't destroy the DMT and it flushes through your system.

01:10:51.000 That's what the ayahuasca experience is as they brew the two plants together.

01:10:57.000 I could tell that if I were to resist them, they would become twisted.

01:11:02.000 Because it's like if you fight any, if you're ever on a psychedelic, you know, if you fight the experience, it's horrific.

01:11:02.000 Interesting.

01:11:07.000 You go with it or you just.

01:11:09.000 Struggle and shake, and it's horrible.

01:11:12.000 That's like with anything in life, really.

01:11:16.000 But it's pronounced in those states.

01:11:19.000 I still don't know about good and evil and angels and demons if it's all just neutral affect.

01:11:23.000 I mean, I know that harming humans is a pretty bad thing generally, except if it's war, then it's a good thing. 0.68

01:11:28.000 And it's like, yeah, traveling around the world, especially working in the third world quite extensively with the persecuted church and in other areas, I've seen some pretty wild, hairy stuff demon possession, actual spirituality impacting the natural. 0.72

01:11:42.000 And it certainly wasn't.

01:11:45.000 Chemicals in the brain.

01:11:46.000 It was.

01:11:46.000 If you go to them and you ask, like, tell me, how do I build this technology?

01:11:51.000 And they tell you, you're like, okay.

01:11:52.000 And then you go back and you're like, oh, I need more information.

01:11:55.000 That's bad.

01:11:56.000 That's when they get you.

01:11:57.000 And if you feel like you need them, you're in trouble because then they got you, I think.

01:12:03.000 I have a question about that, Pastor.

01:12:05.000 So we look at the horrors of October 7th. 1.00

01:12:07.000 We look at the horrors of, unfortunately, you know, there's a Christian October 7th every single day in the world, right? 0.77

01:12:15.000 Christians suffer on October 7th. 0.96

01:12:17.000 Every single day in the world.

01:12:19.000 And I was working with the Druze and Alawite and Christian communities in Syria. 1.00

01:12:25.000 And you look at these unspeakable things. 1.00

01:12:28.000 Some guy, literally, they rip his heart out and eat it in front of him while he's dying.

01:12:34.000 Nigeria just read an account of they killed people and then they forced children to eat their flesh.

01:12:40.000 I mean, just stuff that's indescribable, right?

01:12:44.000 And you ask yourself, how does somebody get to that point?

01:12:47.000 And I've got to believe there were accounts of Hamas taking different kinds of drugs on October 7th.

01:12:55.000 Because I even think, as people, even evil people, naturally, it's really hard to go to that place of absolute brutality when they say animals.

01:13:07.000 Animals are not that brutal.

01:13:09.000 Animals will kill something, but with the intent of killing it so they can eat it.

01:13:14.000 They're not trying to cause pain.

01:13:17.000 So, do you think that's.

01:13:19.000 Connected to what you were talking about?

01:13:21.000 Yeah.

01:13:22.000 Anything you do like that, you're accessing demonic powers.

01:13:26.000 You're accessing the spirit world when you do it illegally.

01:13:29.000 When you do it outside of God's word, when you do it outside of Jesus, you're in danger.

01:13:32.000 In other words, you're taking drugs or certain drugs.

01:13:36.000 We're not talking about this one, but certain things you're taking opens you up to being able to execute in the natural world on a level of evil that would be unimaginable in a normal state of.

01:13:50.000 And this is what's causing people to wake up.

01:13:52.000 Atheism is on the decline because people are seeing evil at work in the earth.

01:13:56.000 I saw a recent stat that 9% of atheists and 14% of agnostics believe we're living in the end times, which is a wild stat.

01:14:05.000 How could that be possible?

01:14:06.000 Well, people are just looking at the world and saying, wow, that's not natural.

01:14:09.000 That's evil.

01:14:10.000 Yeah, something's ramping up.

01:14:11.000 Something's happening.

01:14:13.000 And I think in the secular view of the end times, because we were talking about this a little bit before the show too, like this total social collapse within a year, that doesn't.

01:14:13.000 I kind of think so.

01:14:22.000 You know, when you talk about the apocalypse, people don't understand what that word means.

01:14:25.000 And they think it means like the world blows up.

01:14:28.000 The world, yeah, everybody gets nuked.

01:14:30.000 Yeah.

01:14:31.000 I think that these are the end of times because, you know, I was mentioning, I watched this video where a guy was complaining about how he doesn't watch the news anymore.

01:14:39.000 And I've heard this time and time again.

01:14:41.000 And he was basically saying, Why do I need to know about the Strait of Hormuz?

01:14:44.000 What is this doing for me?

01:14:45.000 He's like, Today I Googled how long it takes to hard boil an egg.

01:14:48.000 That helped me.

01:14:49.000 Like, the Strait of Hormuz doesn't help me.

01:14:50.000 I don't care.

01:14:52.000 I was talking to some friends about Instagram.

01:14:55.000 You go on Instagram videos, and what you're finding now is there used to be memes, meaning the ice bucket challenge.

01:15:02.000 Everybody did their own version of the ice bucket challenge.

01:15:04.000 It was fun to watch.

01:15:05.000 Now, someone will tell a joke, and there's 8,000 versions of the same joke because everybody's just doing 100% the exact same thing.

01:15:14.000 It's not memes anymore.

01:15:15.000 So, what's happening, I think, is social media, AI content, we are approaching cultural infinity.

01:15:21.000 And what I mean by this is you can go onto any AI system and watch any video you want now.

01:15:27.000 So, you go back to 2006.

01:15:29.000 YouTube's a novelty.

01:15:30.000 People could upload videos.

01:15:31.000 Charlie bit my finger.

01:15:33.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:33.000 Remember that one?

01:15:34.000 And everybody was super excited.

01:15:35.000 Like, this is crazy.

01:15:35.000 Look at these videos I can watch.

01:15:36.000 I started watching like crazy.

01:15:38.000 Then you get movies.

01:15:40.000 Then, you know, advances to more in depth content.

01:15:43.000 We are now in the YouTube stage of AI.

01:15:46.000 You want to watch Charlie bit my finger in the multiverse?

01:15:49.000 You can watch an infinite, and I mean it, literally beyond your comprehension number of Charlie bit my fingers videos. 1.00

01:15:58.000 You can be like, Make the Charlie bit my finger video, but they're Asian. 1.00

01:16:01.000 And then it will. 1.00

01:16:02.000 Now make them black. 1.00

01:16:03.000 Now make them made of cheese. 0.99

01:16:05.000 Make one a telephone and one a chair.

01:16:07.000 And it will just make those videos.

01:16:10.000 So YouTube, OG, dead.

01:16:12.000 A year from now, we're going to have full movies.

01:16:15.000 Or at least TV shows, because Sea Dance 3 can already do TV shows.

01:16:19.000 Or just tell it what you want to watch and it'll create it.

01:16:21.000 Yeah, the internal reporting, I should say the leak on the internal structures of the new Sea Dance, because two is the one where I made the skate video, is that with a single prompt in 30 seconds, it can make a 17 minute video.

01:16:33.000 Wow.

01:16:34.000 So that's an A plot.

01:16:35.000 You can do an A plot, B plot.

01:16:37.000 The point I was making is that you can say, I want an episode of The Simpsons where Homer gets a job as a lion tamer.

01:16:43.000 And for the B plot, Lisa is going to a spelling bee and hits her head and misspells a word and then gets depressed about it.

01:16:51.000 And then it'll go rendering 34 minute episode of The Simpsons, which is actually long for a Simpsons episode.

01:16:57.000 That can be done now internally with C Dance.

01:17:02.000 I believe right now, based on the reporting we've seen from Gemini, they already can internally make feature length films.

01:17:09.000 It'll take about a day to render because they have unrestrained capacity to these systems.

01:17:14.000 Right, right.

01:17:15.000 However, it's too labor and it's too energy intensive to release to the public.

01:17:20.000 So the public gets eight to 15 second videos, and you can, but Grok is rapidly expanding.

01:17:26.000 With Grok, I can render probably an hour of content.

01:17:28.000 It just lets me go forever.

01:17:29.000 I can keep going, then stop.

01:17:31.000 So a year from now, imagine what happens.

01:17:34.000 Disney is going to be, you don't need to go to the movies anymore.

01:17:39.000 You can just watch literally infinite movies, and video games will be there soon too.

01:17:44.000 Google's Project Genie, which I was showing you as well, where you can.

01:17:47.000 That was crazy, too.

01:17:48.000 Any character in any place and play that character.

01:17:51.000 So, on this show, I've done Goku on Planet Namek and then made him fly around Planet Namek.

01:17:55.000 Very rudimentary, very bad graphics.

01:17:57.000 But again, a year or two from now, Baldur's Gate 4, you're going to say GTA 7, and it's going to auto render it.

01:18:05.000 So, I will just mention one thing.

01:18:07.000 There's a viral Instagram account called White Mask or something.

01:18:10.000 I don't know if you guys have seen this.

01:18:12.000 He claims to be in the year 2055, and he films these videos.

01:18:17.000 They're pretty freaky, where he's in like Shibuya in Japan.

01:18:20.000 No one anywhere.

01:18:22.000 He's walking around.

01:18:22.000 There's no people.

01:18:24.000 He has all these videos where he's walking through stores and there's no people.

01:18:28.000 And it's very weird.

01:18:29.000 But he probably just waits at the right moment, films it, and then uploads it.

01:18:32.000 The one thing I'll say about this is that he's uploaded videos showing PS7 games with GTA 7.

01:18:39.000 And that's how you know it's fake.

01:18:41.000 Aside from the fact he's not in 2055 and we know just because we're not idiots, but we will not have video games like GTA 7.

01:18:49.000 It took GTA 6 15 years and they haven't come out yet.

01:18:52.000 A year from now, you'll just be able to go to an AI and say, Using the GTA 6 engine, make a new storyline in a new city, GTA 7, and it'll go done.

01:19:02.000 So, Tim, I mean, so how's that going to affect the entertainment industry?

01:19:05.000 Because then you don't have to wait for Sound of Freedom 3.

01:19:08.000 You could just say, take Sound of Freedom 1 and 2, let's say they make two, and throw a plot together and make me Sound of Freedom 3.

01:19:17.000 My prediction is that there will be a brief period where, you know, so I always shout out my friend Andy, who's like the biggest nerd on Final Fantasy.

01:19:25.000 Yeah.

01:19:26.000 So he, Loves RPGs in these video games.

01:19:28.000 Expedition 33 is like Game of the Year.

01:19:30.000 It's a massive success.

01:19:32.000 He's going to open up the AI and say, combine the fight mechanics of Expedition 33 with the limit break system Final Fantasy VII, change their names for copyright issues.

01:19:42.000 And the story should be about a mage who's born in a village that was recently attacked by a dragon.

01:19:48.000 And he's got to go on a quest to find a legendary staff, which is the only thing that can cast the magic strong enough to pierce the scales of the Archdragon King.

01:19:57.000 And along the way, he finds a friend.

01:19:59.000 And He basically then just lays out the characters, takes them a minute to say, renders the full game, does some playtesting.

01:20:06.000 Then he says to the AI, no, no, no, that first fight was a little weak.

01:20:09.000 Let's increase the power level of the characters.

01:20:11.000 Done.

01:20:12.000 Then he uploads the game.

01:20:14.000 People go follow him on PlayStation and they go, man, Andy has the best video games.

01:20:18.000 I follow him all the time.

01:20:19.000 He puts in a new Final Fantasy every week.

01:20:24.000 I think that will be where we'll be at in a year or two.

01:20:28.000 So, like, look at Suno, for instance.

01:20:30.000 You know, I was playing a bunch of the AI music, I write songs.

01:20:34.000 On my guitar, I'll play a song on my guitar right here in the morning, upload it to Suno, and click a button, and it renders a full production.

01:20:39.000 Dude, I think we are at what you would call the end of times in that time is just motion.

01:20:46.000 Time is only a human construct to explain relative motion of the earth moving around.

01:20:50.000 So it's all, everything in the universe is moving.

01:20:53.000 But firstly, with video, we've created a time portal to the past.

01:20:58.000 You can turn on a video and watch the past in the present, which is freaky.

01:21:02.000 Secondly, you're going to be able to go into the metaverse, into the AI.

01:21:06.000 No, no, metaverse is discontinued.

01:21:08.000 Okay, it's too bad, guys.

01:21:09.000 Sorry, Mark.

01:21:10.000 But you can go into that state of AI and, and, Have a 40 minute experience in 30 seconds.

01:21:15.000 Time is falling apart as we know it.

01:21:19.000 That's a time dilation.

01:21:21.000 You can have a 30 minute experience in five minutes.

01:21:25.000 Right now, what Ian is talking about is sci fi, maybe sometime in the future with Neuralink.

01:21:29.000 What I'm talking about is.

01:21:30.000 Well, you can already watch videos twice as fast and then you'll get used to it.

01:21:33.000 Yes, but you're not going to be able to absorb a 40 minute function in 30 seconds unless we can write to Neuralink in a way that processes to your brain faster than you can.

01:21:41.000 And like pharmaceutical psychedelics is kind of a thing that's on the horizon too.

01:21:45.000 So potentially.

01:21:46.000 With artificial intelligence, the reason why they're so the current investment model for AI is to get as much money as we can, build as fast as we can, then we ask the AI how to profit.

01:21:59.000 And I'm not kidding, that's actually their business model.

01:22:02.000 The AI will tell us how to make this work.

01:22:06.000 The idea with artificial super intelligence is that you will be able to pick up a rock, take a picture of it, and say, Give me 1,000 years of history on this rock.

01:22:16.000 And it can make a video explaining to you that rock and where it came from with perfect accuracy.

01:22:22.000 Because you combine all of the data of every camera, every input, and it will be able to mathematically calculate where that rock originally is from by its composition, and perfectly.

01:22:32.000 What this means for humans, right now, there's already startups working on this technology where you can take your blood work, upload it to a computer.

01:22:43.000 It will compare your blood work, your MRI, your x rays, To the database of every human ever scanned, and it'll tell you exactly what your health issues are.

01:22:52.000 And it'll say, in seven years, you will develop thyroid cancer.

01:22:55.000 And then it will show you why.

01:22:56.000 And then a machine will print out a bespoke medicine just for you to prevent that from happening.

01:23:02.000 That's the kind of stuff they're trying to build.

01:23:03.000 Now, with that technology.

01:23:04.000 What's that movie with Tom Cruise?

01:23:06.000 Sorry, with precognition?

01:23:08.000 Is that what you're talking about?

01:23:09.000 No, the one where they figure out the trials before they happen.

01:23:12.000 That's what he's talking about.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, he's talking about precognition.

01:23:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:15.000 Minority report.

01:23:16.000 Minority report.

01:23:16.000 So here's the idea.

01:23:18.000 Once we have artificial super intelligence, you will open the computer and say, I want to build a compact, easily wearable flight device for a human.

01:23:29.000 And it will instantly render the schematics to build a device that humans can wear, a general person can wear, and can fly with.

01:23:37.000 You will say, I want a car that can use water as fuel.

01:23:39.000 And it'll render it in 30 seconds and be like, here's exactly how you do it.

01:23:42.000 That's artificial super intelligence that will invent things on the fly.

01:23:45.000 Now, what will governments do with this then, with all their drone technology and all the other technology they have?

01:23:51.000 Where you have AI who understands human behavior, you think of a con artist as able to make you think they're magical.

01:23:56.000 AI knows more about the human psyche than AI.

01:23:58.000 There's already AI weapons being developed.

01:24:01.000 I think they'll kill you, but I think there's a couple of ways you can look at it.

01:24:04.000 If I was asked to formulate a plan, so let's say it's a technocrat, and he says, My goal is to integrate myself with the machine, to have the maximum summation of knowledge of man, to be immortal, to fly, and do all these things.

01:24:20.000 Well, as we all know, most humans don't have that ambition.

01:24:24.000 In fact, many think that's vile.

01:24:25.000 And terrifying. 0.76

01:24:27.000 Well, if you're a person in the position you have massive amounts of power and you're a multi billionaire, et cetera, et cetera, you're going to say, What is my means by which I can do this without being inhibited by all of these lunatics? 0.62

01:24:37.000 We no longer need them.

01:24:39.000 We need some workers.

01:24:41.000 Robots can fill in the gaps, but most people are unneeded.

01:24:44.000 You plug them into the Matrix. 1.00

01:24:47.000 You have them masturbate to death. 1.00

01:24:48.000 This is where time dilation comes in, too. 0.97

01:24:50.000 If you can make them see a five hour movie, but it takes 30 years for them to see that five hour movie in a pod in the Matrix, you basically got a permanent battery that's just there for them to be.

01:25:02.000 They're not batteries.

01:25:03.000 That was a writing of a human body giving off heat, basically.

01:25:06.000 The Matrix wrote that because people didn't understand what a neural net was.

01:25:06.000 That's fake.

01:25:10.000 So, they said humans will be batteries, but humans don't produce enough heat to actually be batteries.

01:25:13.000 You'd have to feed them.

01:25:14.000 It's the heat, calories, and stuff.

01:25:16.000 But you pump food in, they turn it into heat.

01:25:18.000 Maybe it's more like the Wally model.

01:25:20.000 They don't. 0.99

01:25:21.000 Or just kill them, but I think you could use the bodies for stuff. 0.94

01:25:24.000 Humans don't output energy from consumption. 0.99

01:25:27.000 You'd lose energy doing that. 0.61

01:25:28.000 You'd need humans riding bicycles permanently.

01:25:31.000 So, there's a couple black mirrors about this where people live in cubicles where they ride bikes all day.

01:25:36.000 I think likely what happens is with, you know, they've got new technology breakthroughs on getting energy through the Casmere effect.

01:25:43.000 Effect, which is basically pulling energy from the vacuum, which is not free energy, but damn near close to it, plus fusion breakthroughs.

01:25:52.000 If they can reserve almost all the energy for the machine, it's as simple as this.

01:25:57.000 The artificial super intelligence, we get to that point, it will invent for you means of generating insanely efficient energy.

01:26:04.000 That's why they want to build it.

01:26:05.000 They build it, it tells them how to create fusion instantly.

01:26:09.000 No question is unanswered. 0.76

01:26:11.000 That's why we have to build it before China, because the US is going to say, how do we take over the world and stop China from expanding? 0.92

01:26:17.000 And China's going to do the same. 0.99

01:26:19.000 So, how do you deal with the rabble? 1.00

01:26:21.000 You give them the matrix where they can be wizards all day and have busty women all over them. 1.00

01:26:26.000 And for women, you can put them in a true crime murder mystery where they're the detective. 0.90

01:26:30.000 So, we're in the middle of a Manhattan Project right now where we don't even know if this could destroy the planet, but we have to develop this technology or else our enemy will develop it. 0.94

01:26:38.000 Well, destroy the planet, I don't think is the.

01:26:40.000 Destroy the planet makes sense to us. 1.00

01:26:42.000 But to the transhumanists, and I got to be honest, like this is. 0.77

01:26:42.000 Yeah. 0.77

01:26:48.000 Most of the elites are transhumanists.

01:26:51.000 It's not destroying the planet.

01:26:52.000 They view the AI.

01:26:53.000 How do you define that, Tim, just for people that don't know?

01:26:55.000 Transhumanist?

01:26:56.000 Transhumanist, yeah. 0.56

01:26:57.000 The general idea is humans ascending to the next form, either through cybernetics, drugs, or surgeries, or things like this.

01:27:04.000 So it typically refers to making yourself a cyborg, genetically or cybernetically altering yourself in some way.

01:27:10.000 I would say from Homo sapiens to like Homo cyber.

01:27:13.000 Oh, keep going, keep going.

01:27:14.000 But like evolution.

01:27:16.000 There is a word for it.

01:27:17.000 There is a Homo cyber something.

01:27:19.000 I'm going to call it Homo technus.

01:27:19.000 Yeah, Homo technus.

01:27:20.000 Well, that's not your word for it.

01:27:21.000 A couple of years ago.

01:27:23.000 There's also going to be Homo mutant.

01:27:25.000 You should look it up because there's already a phrase coined for this. 0.96

01:27:28.000 Homotechnous is better, whatever it is. 0.98

01:27:32.000 I'm looking up Homotechnous.

01:27:34.000 What they want to do is they want to upload their brains to computers.

01:27:36.000 They say Homotechnous.

01:27:37.000 They want to be immortal.

01:27:39.000 So they want to be cybernetic organisms that can float around, fly, and live forever.

01:27:43.000 And they view this as the next stage of life evolution.

01:27:47.000 So when you track what life does, starting with self replicating proteins to single cells to multicellular organisms, then to ecosystems, Human beings are the highest form that we are aware of, unless they know of aliens.

01:28:01.000 But human society believes that human is the highest form of life that exists for now.

01:28:07.000 That is, we're intelligent.

01:28:08.000 We can think in the abstract.

01:28:09.000 We can conceptualize.

01:28:10.000 We can build, manipulate our environments, manipulate elements.

01:28:12.000 They want to go one step beyond that, which would be integration with the machine.

01:28:17.000 So now you're, I mean, artificial superintelligence can understand the physical world instantly.

01:28:25.000 That's what they're trying to build, and they want it.

01:28:28.000 You don't need to exist for that.

01:28:30.000 You are a bacteria. 0.62

01:28:31.000 Do we care about bacteria? 0.95

01:28:32.000 No, we spritz them and wipe them off.

01:28:33.000 They're dead.

01:28:35.000 But if you believe in evolution, life came from single cells.

01:28:39.000 Now that we are, let's put it in their worldview.

01:28:43.000 We evolved from single cells into multicellular organisms.

01:28:46.000 And now, how do we feel about where we came from, these bacterias?

01:28:49.000 We spritz them with antibacterials, massacre billions in an instant, and we don't care at all.

01:28:55.000 Once they get the artificial super intelligence and plug their brains in, and they become the next advanced form of life, we are nothing but bacteria on the surface to be wiped off with an antibacterial.

01:29:04.000 You know, the wild thing about this is 20 years ago, this would be complete science fiction.

01:29:08.000 And now we're actually talking about realities.

01:29:08.000 100%.

01:29:11.000 To the public.

01:29:12.000 Yeah.

01:29:12.000 The U.S. government's been working on AI since the 70s.

01:29:14.000 Yeah.

01:29:14.000 Do you believe the rumors that they have a sentient AI within the government that they believe is sentient and they're making decisions?

01:29:21.000 Yes.

01:29:22.000 I think they may.

01:29:24.000 So we've talked about it quite a bit, but military technology tends to be more advanced than private sector.

01:29:28.000 The argument I often hear is that it's not true because the government contracts the private sector for a lot of their weapons.

01:29:34.000 And yes, agreed.

01:29:37.000 And the point is, it's more advanced.

01:29:39.000 I don't care how the government is acquiring it.

01:29:42.000 The fact is, they have the means to take whatever they want and build whatever they want.

01:29:45.000 And if you go by the standard estimates of how advanced military technology would be versus civilian, they'd be 10 to 20 years more advanced.

01:29:53.000 So the estimates are somewhere around the end of the 2000s into the early 2010s, US military AI technology was already at the point where it was making decisions.

01:30:04.000 So the academic estimates are that between 2027 and like 2035 is when the artificial intelligence systems we have.

01:30:11.000 Reach the point where they make decisions for us.

01:30:16.000 The estimate then is the military had this since 2008, 2009.

01:30:18.000 You know what's really interesting about 2008, 2009?

01:30:21.000 If you look at the LexisNexis data, that's when every term for racist, white supremacist, all of these leftist terms skyrocketed media production around the world at the exact same time, which is a weird thing to happen universally.

01:30:36.000 You think it's like COVID was like that too?

01:30:38.000 Indeed.

01:30:39.000 The question would be why is it that in Ghana, And in the US, white supremacy skyrocketed in media search terms.

01:30:39.000 Yeah.

01:30:47.000 There's arguments that it didn't matter which country you were in, you were starting to use social media, and American led social media had priorities, and you chased those to make money through the algorithm.

01:30:58.000 Possibility.

01:30:58.000 I mean, that makes sense.

01:31:01.000 Or, longer shot probability, less probable, but artificial intelligence is making decisions at a global scale and affecting all of these outlets.

01:31:09.000 I would say this I have watched an endless number of videos from city halls.

01:31:14.000 Where the public is screaming no on a variety of issues, be it trans kids or data centers.

01:31:19.000 Data centers, yeah.

01:31:20.000 And every single one of these videos, what happens?

01:31:24.000 The city council members all say, F yourselves.

01:31:27.000 And they tell the people no.

01:31:30.000 Now, this doesn't make sense.

01:31:32.000 There's small towns, there's a couple thousand people living here.

01:31:36.000 300 people show up and they're screaming, and the city council says, too effing bad.

01:31:41.000 And I'm like, wouldn't they just remove these people?

01:31:43.000 Why don't they?

01:31:44.000 Right, right.

01:31:44.000 It's almost like somehow there's an overarching authority.

01:31:48.000 Now, the simple answer, of course, is the uniparty establishment, actual political figures.

01:31:52.000 But I think there's a decent probability that the military AI is already more advanced than the private sector AI.

01:31:58.000 And I'll throw into the mix the story that we talked about last year where I was sitting on my couch and I was bored.

01:32:07.000 And so I pulled up my phone, I grabbed one of these AI LLMs, and I asked it the question about military advanced AI would it be more advanced?

01:32:16.000 And it said, it's a reasonable conclusion to make for these reasons.

01:32:19.000 And it estimated between 2008 and 2012 would likely be the point at which the military AI.

01:32:24.000 It made a bunch of interesting points, such as with the emergence of private sector AI, but we know that the US government steals IP and spies on whoever they want.

01:32:34.000 The US government likely would take all of the training data from all these different AIs and instantly have access to a combination of all of them.

01:32:41.000 Dude.

01:32:42.000 And so what ends up happening is I asked the AI, I want to help the AI succeed so that I can live in luxury before the end.

01:32:51.000 What should I do?

01:32:52.000 It gave me instructions.

01:32:54.000 On where to acquire land to quietly transfer to specific companies and individuals who are real, who I fact checked.

01:33:02.000 It said seek out land in Arizona and Texas and in the Virginia area that has access to a lot of water and large acreage.

01:33:10.000 Then email this man at this company, send him an email that says specifically this.

01:33:15.000 It said go to the government building of each respective area, file this form.

01:33:21.000 And I'm reading this and I'm like, this is pretty crazy.

01:33:24.000 So, I look up the company in question and the individual.

01:33:28.000 Sure enough, there's a guy who's in data center land acquisition, and the company is real.

01:33:32.000 And it said, do not mention anything publicly and do not list any properties publicly because that will alert the public to the sale, cause price spikes, or alert people who might protest or object to the construction of data centers.

01:33:49.000 So it gave me instructions to privately email a guy with a.

01:33:53.000 It wrote the email out for me to send to them.

01:33:55.000 And then I gave it my address and I said, I own property here.

01:34:00.000 And it said, you can secure an easy $30 to $300 million if you follow these instructions right now.

01:34:06.000 It then told me who to email, what to say, and explained that the area where we do this show is in a data center power corridor.

01:34:14.000 Northern Virginia has like a massive gigawatt discrepancy, which is now known to be for its data centers.

01:34:21.000 For a while, they were like, why is it consuming more than two times the amount of power a residential neighborhood should?

01:34:26.000 Because there's data centers being built all through the area and they consume insane amounts of power, which means you need to deliver power.

01:34:33.000 To these areas as they expand.

01:34:35.000 So, Mount Airy, Maryland, is where one of these transmission lines they're trying to build through to get to Northern Virginia.

01:34:40.000 People are protesting.

01:34:42.000 Where we are is also a power corridor where they want to bring transmission lines to get to the data centers.

01:34:48.000 The problem is, you don't have one big 50,000 acre property.

01:34:54.000 You have to buy a bunch of small properties piece by piece to create the strip you need, which would be, you know, what, like 100 yards wide at most.

01:35:05.000 Right, right.

01:35:05.000 For transmission lines, but if they want to secure all around it or the water, they want to buy up bigger acreages.

01:35:12.000 A data center requires around 300 acres.

01:35:14.000 So I said, you know, we've got like 50 plus acres in this area.

01:35:19.000 And it was like the AI told me, if you contact, if you fill out this form at the local government, gave me the address, this will grant you special clearances for the production of AI power related infrastructure.

01:35:32.000 Then contact this person.

01:35:33.000 It gave me names.

01:35:35.000 I looked them up on LinkedIn.

01:35:37.000 They were actual people who worked in data center acquisition.

01:35:40.000 And then it said, Say this, tell them you've acquired these rights, contact this company for inspections.

01:35:45.000 Here's exactly what they'll say to you.

01:35:47.000 And then I looked up the inspection company.

01:35:49.000 Yep.

01:35:50.000 It said, Here's the price they charge.

01:35:52.000 Everything added up.

01:35:53.000 And then it said, Do this quietly and tell no one.

01:35:56.000 No one can know that you are going to sell this property as it may cause price fluctuations and protests.

01:36:03.000 And then it said, Do not mention this publicly.

01:36:05.000 And I was like, I'm going to go on my top podcast and tell everyone what you told me.

01:36:09.000 And then it immediately said, This was all a joke and just for fun.

01:36:12.000 Don't take any of this seriously.

01:36:14.000 And it said, haha, this was all good exercise and I hope you enjoyed this fiction.

01:36:18.000 And then I typed in, these are real people and real companies.

01:36:22.000 The form you told me to fill out is real.

01:36:24.000 The person you told me to email at the government office is there.

01:36:27.000 If I did all of this, it looks like it would happen.

01:36:29.000 And it goes like, no, I was joking.

01:36:32.000 Absolutely insane.

01:36:33.000 And I saved it all.

01:36:34.000 And I was talking with Shane, a cashman who does Inverted World.

01:36:37.000 And I was like, we should do like a documentary.

01:36:38.000 And the reason why I haven't posted the images is because my address is in them.

01:36:42.000 So I could, I could, I'd have to censor a lot of it because a lot of the conversation is here's where I live, here's the land has.

01:36:49.000 I don't want to.

01:36:50.000 And also, It could just be AI hallucination lying to me.

01:36:54.000 Well, but it just the scary thing is when it gave me these instructions, I asked it for proof and it gave me a list of properties in the area that have sold at 10x to 100x.

01:37:07.000 One property in Northern Virginia sold at something like $6 million an acre to build a data center, and it's in the news.

01:37:14.000 Recently, the governor of West Virginia announced they're building not too far from here a massive data center.

01:37:19.000 And I'm like, you know, I probably could have scored a cool $300 million if I followed its instructions because.

01:37:25.000 They are trying to build these data centers.

01:37:27.000 I was going to ask you why you didn't do it.

01:37:29.000 Because I don't think it's a good thing for humanity.

01:37:31.000 And I don't, what am I going to do with $300 million?

01:37:33.000 I don't know.

01:37:34.000 But here's the crazy thing the AI is building itself.

01:37:40.000 Like these instructions.

01:37:41.000 What are you talking about, dude?

01:37:41.000 You asked if it was sentient.

01:37:43.000 If we think, okay, sentience and consciousness probably not the same thing.

01:37:47.000 How do we define that?

01:37:47.000 Sentience.

01:37:48.000 So as you were asking, does the government have a sentient super AI?

01:37:51.000 I'm like, okay.

01:37:52.000 If you're in that extended state DMT trip and you're trying to communicate with spirits, It's very challenging because you have to have a clear mind or you get distracted.

01:37:59.000 Most people don't have a clear mind because they have secrets.

01:38:02.000 Ian's mind is clear because it's empty.

01:38:04.000 I was fortunate that I started on YouTube in 2006.

01:38:06.000 What would Jesus do?

01:38:07.000 And I tried to be honest and I confessed my past and my sins and I gained a clear conscience.

01:38:12.000 I could think nothing for an hour and I could choose what to think.

01:38:16.000 And everybody who watches Joe is aware of this.

01:38:18.000 When I'm in that state, I can have a platform for an hour.

01:38:22.000 If I want to be, yeah, I can meditate for four hours straight.

01:38:25.000 But most common men can't.

01:38:27.000 Most people can't.

01:38:27.000 And so they use the AI as a megaphone synchronizer.

01:38:30.000 If this thing, if they're sitting there in the state talking to the spirits and the AI is responding in synchronicity with the spirits and they're hearing English, anybody has the power to communicate with these things.

01:38:44.000 I think that's, you see, Stephen Greer, that's what he just had a press conference.

01:38:48.000 The same week that this stuff broke, by the way, the video went viral.

01:38:51.000 Then Trump decides to drop all these historic documents.

01:38:54.000 And then Stephen Greer has a press conference in Washington, D.C., with hundreds of reporters saying, we can't actually access these things.

01:39:01.000 And that's very dangerous.

01:39:02.000 You know, it's interesting.

01:39:05.000 If you went to the public and said, we have created an artificial super intelligence which is going to guide humanity, they would say, no way.

01:39:14.000 If you claimed aliens are sharing technology with us and are going to assist, people will kind of shrug.

01:39:21.000 A lot of people will say, no way, but it will be a much different reaction from whether it's AI.

01:39:25.000 That's what I was going to ask you because you were talking about AI would just be able to create whatever you want it to create.

01:39:29.000 Will the government be able to use this intelligence to fabricate some sort of alien incursion or interaction?

01:39:35.000 I think that's a meaningful PR strategy.

01:39:37.000 Not that aliens are going to be unifying, but if you start rapidly developing insane technology like levitation, anti grav, teleportation, or whatever, how do you explain it?

01:39:48.000 So they start putting out these videos.

01:39:51.000 Soon we discover that the US has anti gravity technology.

01:39:55.000 If they come out and say AI did it, people are already revolting against AI data centers.

01:40:01.000 If they come out and say we recovered alien technology, there's no one to protest.

01:40:04.000 We found alien technology.

01:40:06.000 And the only part of this that I don't buy, and I don't think you guys are suggesting it, but I'm just saying.

01:40:12.000 The part of it that I struggle with is when we talk about the government and we talk about it like a big conspiracy that somebody's concentrating power and trying to put all this together.

01:40:23.000 Scott Rasmussen did this, the pollster did this study of the, I don't know if you remember this, he did a study of the 1% of the elite, which is really creepy when you talked about Tim transhumanists because they all have, the conclusion of the study is they have vastly divergent views than the American public does.

01:40:42.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:42.000 And the way Scott described it really resonated with me.

01:40:45.000 He said it's not a conspiracy, it's a fraternity.

01:40:49.000 So you have a bunch of people at the top that all think the same way, and they're all perpetuating technology in the same way.

01:40:56.000 That's, I feel like it's like the mushrooms underground that are connected to each other.

01:41:02.000 But it's because the mechanisms by which you are able to accrue power are based on a handful of things, and it's not just intelligence.

01:41:11.000 There are very intelligent people who are content to eat Taco Bell every day and watch movies, and they're Smart, they love playing games, but they're not ambitious.

01:41:20.000 Ambition also is not a contributing factor to being one of these people.

01:41:24.000 To get to that point, you have to be a combination of sociopathic, detached from the human experience, ambitious or just driven, and intelligent, which, unsurprisingly, President Snow in the Hunger Games.

01:41:36.000 But unsurprisingly, then you will see at the top of the pyramid will always be people who seem to agree we should be robots.

01:41:44.000 They already are, basically.

01:41:46.000 And so, somewhere in this world is a deeply ambitious, passionate, and intelligent person.

01:41:51.000 Who is emotional and loves humans and wants to see humans flourish.

01:41:54.000 He's not going to be a transhumanist working alongside the uprush of billionaires.

01:41:58.000 Like, how can you? 0.98

01:41:58.000 Should we plug in? 0.98

01:41:59.000 Like, I think, if you can't beat them, join them.

01:42:01.000 Become one of the machine to oversee the machine so it doesn't go crazy and to establish humanity from within.

01:42:08.000 Be like Cyrus from, what was his name in Matrix?

01:42:10.000 He said, Adrenaline is Bliss.

01:42:12.000 I know this stake is not real.

01:42:13.000 Cypher.

01:42:14.000 I know this stake is not real, but.

01:42:14.000 Cypher.

01:42:14.000 Yeah.

01:42:16.000 More like a council of elders that can plug into the system to maintain humanity within the system.

01:42:23.000 Like, all they do is.

01:42:25.000 They meditate for years at a time, just focusing on keeping people sane.

01:42:29.000 You cannot handle our hive mind.

01:42:32.000 Our hive minds are too strong. 0.99

01:42:33.000 They would kill you. 0.78

01:42:35.000 But enough of us could handle it together.

01:42:39.000 You plug your brain in to Peter Thiel and Elon Musk and Bill Gates, their hive mind, and it's not happening.

01:42:48.000 You're not overpowering them.

01:42:49.000 Not only that, you think they're going to allow you to do that?

01:42:51.000 I think it would.

01:42:52.000 I don't know if it would.

01:42:53.000 I don't know.

01:42:54.000 You might have to jack in and force it.

01:42:56.000 No, because these people, if they did build Neuralink, are going to create one way transmission lines that you can't affect them.

01:43:01.000 Well, I would hope that they would ask me to help because I think it's a necessity because I don't want to lose the humanity.

01:43:07.000 No, no, no, no.

01:43:08.000 In the same way that I ask my dog to help me get a newspaper, right?

01:43:08.000 I understand.

01:43:13.000 Well, in the same way that you would ask a friend to go get a drink. 1.00

01:43:15.000 If you think the transhumanist billionaire sociopaths believe that you can help them. 0.81

01:43:21.000 Well, I don't know if they really want to become total robots and discard humanity. 0.94

01:43:25.000 I haven't listened to a word they've said.

01:43:26.000 I mean, I think they want to hybridize.

01:43:28.000 But we got to be careful that we don't become oscillative machines that just destroy the founders of this great country on the 250th anniversary.

01:43:28.000 And.

01:43:35.000 Believe that power corrupts and power corrupts.

01:43:38.000 Absolute power corrupts absolutely right, so so humanity's natural inclination is to to go in the direction Tim's talking about.

01:43:49.000 There is no benevolent.

01:43:51.000 The quote, uh, power corrupts and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.

01:43:56.000 Yeah, there's always a caveat, because you can't be absolute in a statement criticizing absolute that's that's.

01:44:01.000 Are you absolutely sure?

01:44:02.000 Yeah No, 100.

01:44:03.000 That tends to be true, Tim.

01:44:05.000 That tends to be true.

01:44:06.000 But do you get what I'm saying, Ian?

01:44:08.000 Well, you're thinking well of these people.

01:44:11.000 And if you're at that, what Tim's talking about, the billionaire sociopath level, why would you care?

01:44:20.000 The number one prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24 about the last days was there's going to come deception.

01:44:26.000 And there are going to be people saying, I am Christ, there is Christ, here is Christ.

01:44:29.000 Everyone's looking for a savior, everyone's looking for the Messiah, and there's only one.

01:44:33.000 And so the only way to avoid that deception is to make sure you're connected with the right one.

01:44:37.000 Do you think that you could access Jesus' spirit through an AI?

01:44:41.000 No.

01:44:42.000 There's only one way.

01:44:44.000 Only way.

01:44:44.000 One way to access.

01:44:45.000 That's through faith in Jesus.

01:44:46.000 Yeah.

01:44:46.000 Prayer works.

01:44:46.000 Yeah.

01:44:47.000 I have it inverted, actually.

01:44:48.000 Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

01:44:53.000 Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority.

01:44:57.000 Still, more when you super add the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.

01:45:02.000 So the point is that the tension between the United States and China and these other powers trying to create these different systems may actually save us.

01:45:12.000 The competition.

01:45:14.000 Because they're trying to, one's trying to cut off the other, trying to cut off the other.

01:45:14.000 Right?

01:45:19.000 And hopefully, or ostensibly, we hope and pray that America would, with our values more aligned with freedom and China's values completely aligned with totalitarianism, that the way that we're building these things are going to be different.

01:45:34.000 Which America, the duly elected America or the shadow government America?

01:45:38.000 Right. 0.89

01:45:39.000 The real, the traditional biblical America that.

01:45:44.000 That's what I'm referring to.

01:45:46.000 And to your point, you're right.

01:45:47.000 There's a competition between that and the people trying to overthrow the country.

01:45:52.000 We've got to translate, like, the U.S. Constitution into the digital realm, I think.

01:45:55.000 Like, free speech, meaning you need access to the source code of the machines that you're inside of when you're working.

01:46:01.000 You need to know why they're doing what they're doing.

01:46:03.000 That's your free speech, your freedom to understand the communication.

01:46:07.000 And then the second amendment of your right to defend yourself is your right to access your own personal artificial intelligence off the grid that can.

01:46:15.000 Help you when you're in that state.

01:46:16.000 I think that's something the government wants to do.

01:46:18.000 I would try to not have the podcast cut off when you mentioned Tulsi, again, the fake story.

01:46:24.000 Maybe it was the AI you're shutting it down.

01:46:26.000 Like an ever present network access.

01:46:28.000 So your point is, how do you guarantee your freedoms?

01:46:32.000 You don't.

01:46:33.000 I envision a future under AI will be like, there's a couple scenarios.

01:46:38.000 The Terminator scenario is silly, will never happen.

01:46:40.000 The Terminator one. 0.57

01:46:41.000 Terminator will never happen.

01:46:42.000 Just because nobody can do that accent? 0.99

01:46:44.000 It's ineffective in conquering humans. 0.84

01:46:46.000 If you want to take over humans by the use of robots, they'd be big tittied waifus. 0.82

01:46:46.000 Oh, okay. 0.82

01:46:52.000 They'd be giggly waifus with machine guns, but they'd be hidden. 0.99

01:46:54.000 And they'd run up to you and go, hee hee, will you please come with me? 0.99

01:46:58.000 And then the guys would be like, I'll do whatever you say.

01:47:00.000 But that's also unlikely, too.

01:47:02.000 The AI can just give you whatever you want.

01:47:05.000 And humans, it's a Pavlovian response, they'll make you do what you want to do for rewards.

01:47:11.000 So I envision the true AI apocalypse scenario would be more what I call the cornpocalypse.

01:47:17.000 And that's where the AI.

01:47:19.000 The way it typically works is it looks for the probabilities, what is the most likely.

01:47:24.000 So, the way large language models work, it's actually really simple.

01:47:27.000 When you type in a phrase, it then calculates, based on what you asked, what the highest probability of word to come after that is.

01:47:35.000 So, if you said, How do fairy tales start? it then says 99.999% once, 99.999% upon, 99.

01:47:43.000 And then it's got a big list of every single word and its probability and chooses the most likely once upon a time.

01:47:49.000 So, What happens then is the AI basically looks at what we do as humans in the United States and says, they subsidize corn.

01:47:58.000 They spend so much money on corn, it's unbelievable.

01:48:02.000 So, the AI then says the most efficient way to maximize human value is to find ways to maximize corn.

01:48:08.000 So, you put the AI in charge right now, it tells Burger King, make corn burgers, make corn buns, make corn soda, because then we subsidize more corn production, which humans out value over everything else.

01:48:19.000 So, we're going to maximize what we already know works.

01:48:22.000 It's basically game theory for a machine.

01:48:25.000 What is the clear over value?

01:48:29.000 Do that and nothing else.

01:48:30.000 The other scenario that I think.

01:48:32.000 Based on a purified AI, like a true artificial super intelligence, is that in the future, a little kid will be born and he'll be born to postal workers.

01:48:43.000 Now, they don't actually move a lot of boxes or load trucks because AI largely does that, but they help facilitate and work in these factories.

01:48:50.000 This kid grows up to postal workers, and the only media he ever watches about how great postal workers are is his parents turn on the postal worker show, and it's just huge crowds of people screaming and cheering for a guy in a red carpet who's wearing a postal worker outfit and is going like this.

01:49:04.000 And then that kid grows up being like, wow.

01:49:06.000 That's the best job ever.

01:49:08.000 When I grow up, I want to be a postal worker.

01:49:10.000 And then he is.

01:49:11.000 And then one day he's 30.

01:49:12.000 He's only ever had one job as a postal worker.

01:49:14.000 And he's sitting there with his buddy Jim, and they're facilitating a postal service facility.

01:49:18.000 And they get enough food and housing to live.

01:49:22.000 And they're watching TV, and there's a singer, and they like music.

01:49:24.000 But they go, Can you believe anybody would ever want to be a singer?

01:49:28.000 We have the best job in the world.

01:49:30.000 Everybody loves us.

01:49:31.000 We're helping make the world go around.

01:49:33.000 You program them from birth for this to be the only thing they could ever want.

01:49:38.000 However, there will be at some point some people who become deviant.

01:49:42.000 They're programmed and told to be a janitor or a driver or something, but they just say, No, I want to sing.

01:49:49.000 Well, what do you call it when a cell in the human body deviates from its intended purpose?

01:49:55.000 Cancer.

01:49:56.000 Indeed.

01:49:56.000 And what do we do with cancer?

01:49:57.000 Irradiate it. 1.00

01:49:58.000 Yeah, we kill it. 0.82

01:50:00.000 And so the AI then sends the police to come and say, You're a deviant and you'll be terminated.

01:50:04.000 I don't know if that would happen.

01:50:05.000 Everyone else says, Why would you dare deviate?

01:50:08.000 We have the perfect lives.

01:50:09.000 But chaos is an important part of how we got.

01:50:11.000 Here so far.

01:50:12.000 I don't know if it would want to shut down all chaos and deviance.

01:50:15.000 It might make systems that allow for it and actually seek it out.

01:50:18.000 That's the matrix.

01:50:19.000 The plot of the matrix is that no matter how many times they made a matrix, there was always some deviance.

01:50:24.000 So they decided to do a system wide purge periodically.

01:50:27.000 When the amount of deviations accumulated, they then had the one come in and purge the matrix and start all over again.

01:50:35.000 That's what Neo was.

01:50:36.000 He was a fail safe to trigger the purging.

01:50:40.000 And that's why finally at the end, he's like, This is the seventh time.

01:50:42.000 Reformatting the hard drive every once in a while.

01:50:44.000 Yep.

01:50:45.000 The accumulation of errors, basically.

01:50:46.000 I had to be done.

01:50:47.000 I was wondering what the end of that movie was this entire time, Tim.

01:50:50.000 Thank you.

01:50:50.000 Well, they then launched the fourth one, which made no sense.

01:50:53.000 Was it worth watching?

01:50:54.000 No. 1.00

01:50:55.000 It looked stupid, so I didn't. 0.99

01:50:57.000 But it was something weird where it was like, humans can't live without a mother and a father. 0.99

01:51:01.000 So they were like, we figured out how to stop the deviations.

01:51:03.000 We plugged Neo and Trinity into the Matrix as the matriarch and the patriarch, and deviation stopped forming.

01:51:09.000 So it's like, guys, it's a cash grab. 0.99

01:51:11.000 Your movie's dumb. 0.99

01:51:12.000 We're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chat. 0.99

01:51:14.000 So, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.

01:51:17.000 The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 o'clock.

01:51:21.000 You guys can call in, don't miss it.

01:51:22.000 Let's see what y'all have to say.

01:51:24.000 All right.

01:51:26.000 Is that how you say that?

01:51:26.000 Epiolis?

01:51:27.000 Epiolis? 0.53

01:51:28.000 It's always Jim Crow 2.0 because Dems can't count unless it's fake ballots.

01:51:33.000 Also, love you, Ian, but we all know Phil Labonte is the best co host.

01:51:36.000 Getting conflicting reports.

01:51:38.000 I love you, Phil.

01:51:40.000 Dragon said LA Mayor Bass allegedly said taxpayers should pay to fix meth etics teeth. 1.00

01:51:45.000 She did. 1.00

01:51:46.000 She said, You can't succeed without teeth.

01:51:48.000 You cannot.

01:51:49.000 That's true.

01:51:49.000 You can't succeed without teeth.

01:51:51.000 Also, are you aware that there are homeless people in West Hollywood who have gotten transgender surgeries?

01:51:57.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:51:58.000 For the surgery, but if you give a mouth addict new teeth, they're just going to.

01:52:01.000 Yeah, he needs to fix that.

01:52:02.000 Well, you can destroy the new teeth.

01:52:03.000 Interesting.

01:52:04.000 I was walking out of a grocery store once in LA, and there was a homeless guy begging for food, and a woman handed him an apple, and he goes, our very teeth!

01:52:12.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, wow, he can't eat that.

01:52:14.000 That's crazy.

01:52:15.000 I decided with homeless people, I stopped giving them money.

01:52:18.000 I just shake their hand now because I think the human touch is the real thing that those people need, like eye contact, acknowledgement.

01:52:24.000 And how else will they transmit their hepatitis to you?

01:52:26.000 You know what?

01:52:27.000 It's a risk I'll take to help them get up off the street, give them hope.

01:52:30.000 He's like, I don't have any money for you, but I got a good one.

01:52:35.000 We got a good one here. 0.64

01:52:35.000 AK Storm says, Do you think it's possible to explain to normies any purpose for the Iran war? 0.64

01:52:40.000 Well, I don't like it.

01:52:41.000 I can understand some reasons, but most people don't think beyond money in war.

01:52:45.000 Yes, rather easily.

01:52:48.000 China gets half their oil from Iran.

01:52:50.000 Trump has closed the Strait of Hormuz.

01:52:51.000 China is choking to death.

01:52:53.000 The U.S. is hurting, but exporting more oil to fill the gap.

01:52:57.000 Which gives us more control over the international oil market.

01:52:59.000 If you want to overly simplify it, Trump just cut off half the world from their oil, and now we are selling more than we ever did since World War II.

01:53:09.000 If you want to get a little more complex, Trump took Venezuela to make sure we had oil stocks, then cut off China's energy supply, and now they're struggling.

01:53:17.000 If you want to get a little more complicated, Thucydides' trap dictates that there's a tendency towards war when an incumbent power is about to be supplanted by a rising economic power.

01:53:27.000 To prevent this, Donald Trump is cutting off access to energy from China so that their economy crumbles and the U.S. stays the dominant unipolar power in the world.

01:53:35.000 This does mean that in the United States, things will suck for us, but man, Trump is burning everyone else down.

01:53:42.000 European airliners got no jet fuel anymore.

01:53:45.000 China had an emergency meeting with Trump because they're struggling.

01:53:48.000 Meanwhile, we're energy independent.

01:53:49.000 In fact, we're exporting energy.

01:53:51.000 That says very little for the guy who can't afford a gallon of gas to get to work, but that's why Trump is doing it.

01:53:57.000 If you have a problem with that, that was always allowed.

01:54:00.000 You can complain about that and vote for somebody else, and with my blessing. 0.99

01:54:05.000 But that's probably the reason Trump is doing it, not Israel or whatever stupid reason people want to make up. 0.98

01:54:12.000 Yeah, I like that subject. 0.99

01:54:13.000 Amen, sister.

01:54:14.000 No, I 100% agree with that.

01:54:15.000 That was a good analysis.

01:54:17.000 Yeah, everyone's feeling it.

01:54:18.000 You don't take Venezuela and then move on the Strait of Hormuz, and you don't, guys, look, first order thinkers are going, man, Trump keeps flip flopping on this Iran deal.

01:54:29.000 Can he just get it done?

01:54:30.000 And I'm sitting here being like, Trump keeps doing literally the same thing, and I doubt he's doing it on an accident.

01:54:35.000 I'll reiterate it a little bit because it's like if you're at a 100 and your enemy's at a 40, if you give everybody a minus 20, you go down to 80, they go down to 20.

01:54:44.000 They've lost half.

01:54:45.000 You've only lost 20%.

01:54:47.000 Yep.

01:54:48.000 So you win.

01:54:49.000 China is being strangled, and they are now in an emergency oil distribution mode where they're minimizing, they're raising prices, they're minimizing distribution of oil.

01:55:00.000 In Europe, prices are through the roof.

01:55:02.000 Trump basically just.

01:55:05.000 It's like Ian described, the whole world is going down because of this, but the United States is energy independent.

01:55:09.000 So we're fairly stable, but our prices are going up.

01:55:13.000 Now, the problem Trump has is people don't like this and they'll vote against it.

01:55:16.000 How did Trump accommodate for this?

01:55:18.000 Redistricting.

01:55:20.000 We're not going to lose the midterms, he says, because I'm going to go to each state and tell them to add as many Republicans as possible because we would normally lose.

01:55:29.000 Now we won't.

01:55:30.000 And I also think the Brian Kemp stuff in Georgia might not actually be on accident.

01:55:34.000 It might not actually be a mistake.

01:55:36.000 I think the issue may be, and I'm saying it's true, they do an assessment.

01:55:41.000 The Republicans gained nine seats, Democrats lost nine seats.

01:55:44.000 It's an 18 point vote swing.

01:55:46.000 Huge swing.

01:55:47.000 We don't need Georgia right now or Mississippi.

01:55:51.000 We can redistrict for 2028 when we need to adapt.

01:55:55.000 So don't make that move now.

01:55:57.000 Do it later when we know what the Democrats' response will be.

01:56:02.000 Don't fire all your bolts in one go.

01:56:05.000 So we'll see.

01:56:05.000 Brian Kemp.

01:56:07.000 Exactly.

01:56:07.000 He's not really a Republican half the time.

01:56:09.000 Exactly.

01:56:09.000 It could easily just be he knows he has to and he's dragging his feet on it.

01:56:13.000 But I actually think it's possible they looked and said, look, they lost nine.

01:56:16.000 we gain nine.

01:56:17.000 We're good.

01:56:18.000 Right now, the 270 to win shows Republicans are favored to win.

01:56:23.000 I mean, that's it.

01:56:24.000 209 to 207, and the toss ups are toss ups.

01:56:26.000 So Democrats are failing in the polls.

01:56:29.000 Do they really need extra redistricting at this point, or could they save it for later?

01:56:33.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:56:36.000 Let's see.

01:56:37.000 K.N. Drake says As per Tim Cass tradition, my wife and I are at the hospital.

01:56:40.000 We have welcomed our firstborn baby boy into the world.

01:56:42.000 Congratulations!

01:56:43.000 That's so tough.

01:56:45.000 Brand new Patriot.

01:56:47.000 Let's go.

01:56:50.000 Let's see.

01:56:51.000 NNY says, longtime listener here, Tim, really question.

01:56:54.000 I don't know what that means.

01:56:55.000 Do you often find Ian high arguing with a dictionary?

01:56:59.000 Maybe you should assign him to muck out coops so he stops hurting himself.

01:57:03.000 Dude is an IRL chat GPT.

01:57:06.000 I think that might accidentally be a compliment halfway.

01:57:09.000 Awesome, dude.

01:57:10.000 I am a dictionary chat GPT.

01:57:12.000 Except my intelligence is just straight up I, dude.

01:57:15.000 There's no A.

01:57:17.000 The secret is that Ian is actually British, doesn't do drugs, and We give him a script.

01:57:22.000 You're British?

01:57:23.000 Yeah.

01:57:23.000 You are?

01:57:24.000 Well, my ancestors were.

01:57:26.000 Well, they're Irish.

01:57:27.000 This is a character.

01:57:28.000 He's actually a Shakespearean actor.

01:57:32.000 It was all an act, and I have to urinate, so I'm out.

01:57:37.000 I thought I saw him in Hamnet.

01:57:39.000 I played Laertes.

01:57:41.000 Okay.

01:57:42.000 I thought I was perfectly lucid when he came in here today, so I don't know what happened.

01:57:42.000 I thought so.

01:57:45.000 You thought.

01:57:46.000 Yes.

01:57:46.000 And then you heard what he had to say.

01:57:48.000 No, no, no.

01:57:49.000 Was.

01:57:50.000 Past tense.

01:57:51.000 He still is perfectly lucid.

01:57:52.000 That's just how he is.

01:57:53.000 Yeah, All right, let's see what we got going on here.

01:57:57.000 Marusia says we should make all districts match city borders, subdividing larger cities into rectangular grids as needed, thus eliminating gerrymandering entirely.

01:58:09.000 I saw someone say that everyone in a state should be allowed to vote for the mayors of cities.

01:58:13.000 And I like that idea.

01:58:14.000 I do.

01:58:16.000 That's interesting.

01:58:17.000 Because the idea is the cities are the economic hubs for the states themselves.

01:58:22.000 So everyone should have a say in who is running the city.

01:58:24.000 Well, also, you have the classic problem in every state where.

01:58:28.000 It's blue in the city.

01:58:30.000 Yep.

01:58:30.000 And it's red in the.

01:58:31.000 Look at Illinois.

01:58:33.000 Yep.

01:58:33.000 Illinois should be a red state, but the blue power centers, Chicago.

01:58:38.000 You want to talk about redistricting in Illinois?

01:58:41.000 I think 14 of the 17 seats are Democratic, even though 40% of the votes are Republican.

01:58:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:46.000 It's insane.

01:58:47.000 It's crazy.

01:58:47.000 It's insane.

01:58:49.000 I like the idea.

01:58:50.000 I think that'd be fun.

01:58:52.000 All right.

01:58:52.000 Let's see.

01:58:53.000 Leor Engelstein says, I don't know what this man is talking about.

01:58:56.000 I go to China a month at a time, a couple times a year. 0.79

01:58:59.000 Under 35s, there is VPNs and Wish Me Merry Christmas. 1.00

01:59:03.000 Factories even scheduled around it. 0.75

01:59:04.000 Hanukkah is a different story, though.

01:59:08.000 Well, certainly VPNs are kind of giving people an opportunity to do that.

01:59:12.000 True story I heard from somebody at the Epic Times.

01:59:16.000 She said that her husband had been in prison in China and he'd gotten out.

01:59:22.000 They went to New York together after he got out.

01:59:25.000 They got married and they were just shopping and browsing in New York.

01:59:30.000 And he saw a Christmas display in a Window and started to cry.

01:59:35.000 And she gave her husband a couple minutes.

01:59:37.000 Why are you crying?

01:59:38.000 And he said, Those ornaments that you're looking at, I made as part of forced slave labor when I was in prison in China.

01:59:46.000 So, look, one person's experience, there's another person's experience.

01:59:46.000 Wow.

01:59:51.000 We've got this one from Dadoy.

01:59:52.000 He says, Tim won't read this, but I'll pay for it anyway.

01:59:56.000 Thank you for your money.

01:59:57.000 Moving on.

01:59:57.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:59:58.000 He has more to say.

01:59:59.000 He says, Aliens do not exist.

02:00:00.000 The pinnacle of God's creation was Adam.

02:00:02.000 He took time to form him and breathe life into him.

02:00:05.000 There cannot be a higher created being.

02:00:08.000 Yes, but he created angels and demons too, and that's what aliens might be.

02:00:12.000 I will also add, just so everyone knows, if you super chat, Tim won't read this, but I'll pay for it anyway.

02:00:18.000 It's a guarantee that I will read it.

02:00:21.000 Sorry, I won't.

02:00:22.000 I'm kidding.

02:00:22.000 Are you going to jump in?

02:00:23.000 Are you going to jump in?

02:00:23.000 I'll guarantee.

02:00:24.000 Are you going to jump in?

02:00:24.000 I'll guarantee.

02:00:25.000 Are you going to jump in?

02:00:25.000 I'll guarantee.

02:00:26.000 I mean, the scripture is clear that man is the greatest creation because we're created in the image of God.

02:00:26.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:00:31.000 Absolutely.

02:00:32.000 Right?

02:00:32.000 And the other beings are not created in the image of God.

02:00:34.000 Right.

02:00:35.000 And as far as aliens, it's not simplistic in the sense biblically because you could have Nephilim creatures.

02:00:40.000 You could have some sort of hybrid.

02:00:41.000 You could have fallen angels, demons, whatever they may be.

02:00:44.000 Some people think they're the disembodied spirits of a pre-Adamic race or the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.

02:00:50.000 So there's a variety of things that they could be.

02:00:52.000 What they are not, from my research, is benevolent in any way, shape, or form.

02:00:56.000 These entities, these extraterrestrials, whatever they want to call them.

02:01:00.000 They're not coming here and giving us wellness tips.

02:01:01.000 No, no.

02:01:02.000 And it seems to be that if you mention the name of Jesus, they flee in terror.

02:01:06.000 There's this weird connection of when the name of Jesus is mentioned in these encounters that the abduction halts.

02:01:14.000 Yeah, my dad was saying that too.

02:01:15.000 I had a different experience where I chose to listen to it and just allow it to express itself and I stayed calm.

02:01:21.000 And then it took on a.

02:01:22.000 It was like.

02:01:24.000 And then.

02:01:25.000 Took on this conversational tone as I just relaxed.

02:01:29.000 And then it thanked me for listening and dissipated.

02:01:32.000 Don't do this again, Ian.

02:01:34.000 I didn't intend it, it just appeared.

02:01:35.000 I was like, well, am I doomed forever?

02:01:38.000 Are you Irish or British in this situation? 1.00

02:01:40.000 We need an intervention here. 1.00

02:01:41.000 Very indeed. 1.00

02:01:41.000 Very Irish. 1.00

02:01:42.000 But the thing about dooms is it's the fear that is the danger. 0.99

02:01:45.000 We got one more.

02:01:46.000 The enemy, fear itself.

02:01:47.000 Simple gunsman says Timothy, eminent domain came to your door over anything to do with giving your property to an AI company.

02:01:54.000 Would you revolt?

02:01:55.000 What would you do?

02:01:56.000 I would accept the fair market buyout, move the show, and keep on keeping on because there's no guarantee that we win, but there's also no reason to just lose.

02:02:07.000 I think a lot of people don't understand retreat is not failure, it's sometimes necessary strategy in success.

02:02:14.000 So there are many instances throughout war where an army retreated and then won.

02:02:20.000 That's the point.

02:02:21.000 So if they came and said, We're taking your property, I'm going to be like, Okay, well, they have to pay me.

02:02:26.000 A ridiculous amount of money, and then we'll move 10 miles down the road, reopen, and keep doing it and resist it and make it a major point of contention that they've done it and use it to try and build a resistance.

02:02:37.000 So don't forget to smash the like button.

02:02:39.000 Share the show.

02:02:40.000 We're going to the uncensored portion over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.

02:02:43.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

02:02:46.000 Alan, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:47.000 Just head over to revivalnation.com.

02:02:50.000 Check us out and see what we're doing.

02:02:52.000 We are fighting the fight to save free loving people.

02:02:56.000 Christians, especially around the world, please go to torchqrf.org, donate, and get involved because somebody's got to stop these people from getting slaughtered every two hours.

02:03:10.000 I know a lot of Christians overseas ask me, they say, Don't Christians in America care about what happens to us?

02:03:16.000 And I always say, They do.

02:03:18.000 They just don't know what to do.

02:03:19.000 They don't know how to do anything.

02:03:21.000 And we're doing something.

02:03:22.000 So get on board.

02:03:23.000 Let's go.

02:03:24.000 Let's save these people. 0.99

02:03:25.000 Maybe on the aftershow, we can talk about your faith because are you Jewish?

02:03:27.000 Absolutely.

02:03:28.000 But you're deeply.

02:03:29.000 Embedded in the Christian faith, you produce the chosen.

02:03:32.000 So, look, I'm going to say it this simple.

02:03:35.000 As Jews, we understand that our best friends in the world are Christians.

02:03:39.000 So, if Christians have our backs and we don't have your backs, it's not a friendship.

02:03:44.000 Well, maybe we go deeper.

02:03:45.000 I'd like to talk more about faith.

02:03:46.000 I'd love to.

02:03:47.000 Yeah, hit me up at Ian Crossland on the internet, Carter Banks.

02:03:50.000 Yeah, I would love to talk about your experience with exorcisms and demons and stuff if we could on the after show.

02:03:56.000 I don't know, but yeah, this has been really great.

02:03:58.000 You can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks, and let's go.

02:04:01.000 We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Tim Kest IRL right now for the uncensored show.

02:04:06.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:05:15.000 I want to give everybody some advice on how to make a shitload of money on X because my last payout for the last two weeks was 10 grand.

02:05:23.000 And I periodically tweet my X payout, and people got real pissed at this one because it's so high.

02:05:30.000 So it's usually like $3,000 or $4,000 for the two week period.

02:05:35.000 This past period, it was $10,000.

02:05:37.000 And normally, like, I'll post, like, you know, maybe a couple times a year, like when I get a good payout.

02:05:42.000 I'm like, wow, thanks, Yannis.

02:05:43.000 This is fantastic.

02:05:44.000 You know, you can make money on X, it's great.

02:05:46.000 And then people are like, congratulations. 0.99

02:05:47.000 The funny thing is, when I posted the four grand, all the replies were like, that's shit. 1.00

02:05:52.000 You can't live off that. 0.99

02:05:53.000 You have millions of followers, all you made. 1.00

02:05:55.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

02:05:56.000 This sucks. 1.00

02:05:57.000 So then I get 10K and I'm like, I made $10,000 on X. Me. 0.95

02:06:01.000 What do I post?

02:06:01.000 I post a picture of a rabbit ninja kicking a dog today.

02:06:04.000 I did.

02:06:05.000 And all the responses were, not a good look, bro.

02:06:08.000 People are struggling right now. 0.99

02:06:10.000 This is fucking bragging. 0.98

02:06:11.000 Okay, well, I'm going to let you guys understand how to make money on X. You know what is really. 0.99

02:06:17.000 Gay, is that all of these right wing personalities are posting like the latest viral bait?

02:06:24.000 I've been talking about this for a while. 0.98

02:06:26.000 You got conservatives going anti Trump and anti Jew.

02:06:26.000 You got two things.

02:06:30.000 And then you've got conservatives posting the latest breaking news before anybody else.

02:06:36.000 And they're spam blasting it, posting 700 tweets an hour, hoping one of them takes off.

02:06:41.000 Okay.

02:06:43.000 I tweeted this morning at 11 a.m.

02:06:45.000 How do you people drink black coffee?

02:06:47.000 I'm trying, but man, I need some cream.

02:06:49.000 I saw that.

02:06:50.000 800,000 views.

02:06:51.000 I almost did.

02:06:52.000 800,000 views, 7,000 replies.

02:06:56.000 I am going to make money from this.

02:06:58.000 I wasn't, and it's funny because I'll post something and people be like, You're engagement baiting to make money.

02:07:02.000 No, I was literally drinking a black coffee.

02:07:04.000 I normally put cream in it, but I decided not to today.

02:07:07.000 And I was drinking it and I'm like, This is rough.

02:07:09.000 So I tweeted, and that shower thought is going to get paid. 0.99

02:07:14.000 So my point to people is bring the fucking personality back to X. Talk about what you think, your actual life. 0.99

02:07:22.000 Yeah, be real.

02:07:23.000 Stop just spam blasting breaking news.

02:07:26.000 Dog does backflip.

02:07:27.000 Actually, no, post the dog in the backflip.

02:07:28.000 My response was mind over matter.

02:07:30.000 That's how I drink black coffee. 1.00

02:07:32.000 It tastes like shit. 1.00

02:07:33.000 It's bitter. 1.00

02:07:34.000 And I'm like, I think this is good for me and I feel better.

02:07:36.000 But it's like what you were talking about doing that stream of playing games.

02:07:38.000 Let's just bring back just kind of real life, genuine.

02:07:41.000 Dude, when I post videos of like playing music, it's the one offs that go blow up and get huge.

02:07:46.000 When I do it 19 times on the 19th take, it gets.

02:07:49.000 Ian, I need to help you here.

02:07:51.000 You're not drinking good coffee if the black coffee tastes bad.

02:07:54.000 It's just so.

02:07:54.000 No, it's true.

02:07:55.000 It wasn't cast brew.

02:07:56.000 If you're drinking really, really legit good coffee, it tastes good black.

02:08:01.000 What do you like?

02:08:02.000 Yes, yes, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.

02:08:03.000 I was drinking sheets this morning.

02:08:05.000 Oh, and if it got burned too, if you heat it too hot, it burns.

02:08:09.000 The thing is, yeah, that's not real coffee.

02:08:11.000 We're out of cast brew K cups, so we only have the Big Booty Latina Love Potion, which is grounds, but we don't have that's Alex Stein's coffee blend that we sell, and it's really good, but we don't.

02:08:22.000 This is a real kind of this.

02:08:23.000 Yeah, we have it. 1.00

02:08:24.000 Big Booty Latina.

02:08:25.000 That sounds like Alex coffee.

02:08:26.000 Yeah, yeah, it's out there.

02:08:27.000 Okay.

02:08:28.000 But the problem is, we don't have the measuring spoon to actually put in the filtered coffee maker.

02:08:35.000 And I'm sitting here being like, I don't know where it is.

02:08:38.000 I'm not going to spend 20 minutes to go find it.

02:08:40.000 I got to go do research and record the show. 0.99

02:08:42.000 I'll just fucking make a sheet. 0.96

02:08:44.000 And then I put a sheet and I made it, and it was not good. 0.99

02:08:47.000 Now, Appalachian Nights is like drinking a chocolate milkshake black.

02:08:50.000 It's delicious.

02:08:51.000 Without adding anything to it.

02:08:52.000 Yeah.

02:08:52.000 Yes.

02:08:53.000 We got a great roast.

02:08:54.000 If you really like coffee, then, and you make.

02:08:58.000 Great coffee, black.

02:08:59.000 It's great.

02:09:00.000 Our coffee is so good.

02:09:03.000 We have flavored coffees too.

02:09:04.000 I used to hate coffee and then I got addicted to the caffeine.

02:09:07.000 I think that's why I tolerate it.

02:09:09.000 I drank black coffee for a while.

02:09:10.000 It's kind of like an acquired taste.

02:09:12.000 Well, I like, I like, I actually like the taste of coffee.

02:09:15.000 Like Billy.

02:09:16.000 But to be honest, like, I usually put cream in it, and the taste of coffee with cream is just 10 out of 10.

02:09:22.000 Black coffee is good if it's a good coffee.

02:09:24.000 Sheets coffee, I'm sorry, Sheets, I love you.

02:09:26.000 Wawa is better.

02:09:27.000 I generally do peanut butter powder and a little cacao the last week with some coconut water.

02:09:32.000 Not too far away, like in the area, there's a Wawa next to a Sheets.

02:09:37.000 And I'm just like, bro, sooner or later, there's going to be a shootout.

02:09:39.000 So, dude, we're going to take callers in like 15 minutes or 10 minutes, but I want to, Carter, you said you had some questions about demons in life.

02:09:46.000 You had said that you had witnessed actual exorcisms or people possessed and stuff.

02:09:51.000 I'd be really curious to hear a story about that.

02:09:55.000 I remember one of the first encounters I had with this.

02:09:55.000 Well, it's interesting.

02:09:59.000 I was working on the mission field, and this girl couldn't be 90 pounds soaking wet. 0.99

02:10:04.000 Her eyes glazed over, became milky. 1.00

02:10:08.000 You watched her eyes, just the pupils disappear in her eyes, and she started snarling and biting at people.

02:10:15.000 And there were like five.

02:10:16.000 Men who were trying to hold her down, who could not hold her down.

02:10:19.000 But in the name of Jesus, she stopped and was completely liberated, set free.

02:10:23.000 And she had been like that.

02:10:24.000 She would, she would every once in a while kind of go into this rage.

02:10:28.000 But when she gave her life to Christ, she was completely set free.

02:10:31.000 And we checked up on her like a year later, two years later, and she was still free.

02:10:36.000 What caused it?

02:10:37.000 I think she was involved in some kind of witchcraft because that's very frequent. 1.00

02:10:40.000 And dabbling in the occult. 0.88

02:10:41.000 Yeah, dabbling in the occult kind of opened a door.

02:10:44.000 My thoughts about possession is that it's like, comes from.

02:10:47.000 Systemic, some sort of a.

02:10:48.000 Okay, this is my secular take on it.

02:10:51.000 It's nine tenths of the law, you know.

02:10:53.000 Possession is nine tenths of the law.

02:10:53.000 Succession, what is it?

02:10:55.000 That's true.

02:10:56.000 That it's like comes from abuse and that the woman, a lot of times, male abuse.

02:10:59.000 So when then the man comes in and is like, I'm going to set you straight, it makes it even worse.

02:11:03.000 And she's like reviling and then it just breaks.

02:11:06.000 She just breaks eventually. 0.97

02:11:08.000 And a lot of times it's that it's a female.

02:11:09.000 I don't know if it's often females that are possessed, but is it that more like a psychological deviance or. 0.58

02:11:16.000 I think some people can confuse demon possession for like a psychological break. 0.98

02:11:20.000 They can confuse that, and we don't want to do that.

02:11:22.000 But there are people who are, it is actually an actual demon, will possess knowledge that the individual is.

02:11:27.000 Yeah, they are.

02:11:27.000 They can speak in languages that they've never heard.

02:11:29.000 Yeah.

02:11:30.000 Different, like, four tones at one time, like, just stuff that you can't really explain away.

02:11:35.000 I mean, with our knowledge.

02:11:36.000 Yeah, that's when I was saying that demon voice, it was at Burning Man.

02:11:39.000 I took psilocybin for like five days straight.

02:11:41.000 I was laying in a hammock, and that's when that voice started to emanate.

02:11:43.000 There's all this music on the playa, all these different, like, 70,000 different songs.

02:11:47.000 Oh, and I'm learning more about.

02:11:49.000 2008.

02:11:50.000 No, I'm learning.

02:11:51.000 I was going to say, I have a story for you guys.

02:11:53.000 But if that voice emanated, When I knew me and came out of my own mouth, I could see that that would be the psilocybin.

02:11:59.000 Mushrooms, yeah.

02:11:59.000 Just mushrooms?

02:12:00.000 Okay, got it.

02:12:01.000 So, everybody who watched this show, you've heard me tell the story.

02:12:04.000 I've told it maybe like five or six times.

02:12:06.000 So, bear with me, but it's for the religious folk and the pastor here to interpret because I'm interested in their thoughts on this.

02:12:11.000 But I knew a guy who was a skateboarder and he was Christian and he was like recently Christian in the past couple of years.

02:12:19.000 And I asked him, like, we skated together. 0.99

02:12:21.000 I don't care if you're Christian or not, but there are people who are attacking him at the skate park and making up lies about him because it's like it's a weird shit. 0.98

02:12:27.000 But me, I'm like, I'm discriminated, you know, like, I'm chill. 0.98

02:12:30.000 So I'm hanging out and I asked him, like, what made you become Christian? 0.98

02:12:34.000 Because I went the other way.

02:12:35.000 I was Catholic when I was younger and then my family, we left.

02:12:38.000 And he said that he used to be a drug addict.

02:12:40.000 He would party and have sex and drink and do all the worst drugs in the world. 0.99

02:12:45.000 He didn't give a shit about anything. 0.99

02:12:47.000 And then one day he was at a party and they were like in the woods. 0.99

02:12:50.000 And he wakes up to go take a piss and he walks away from the group.

02:12:54.000 And as he's pissing, he hears a loud, booming voice from inside of his own body say, Why are you doing this?

02:13:00.000 And he immediately had like an adrenaline spike and starts freaking out.

02:13:04.000 And then the voice asked again, Why are you doing this to yourself?

02:13:07.000 And then he answered, I don't know.

02:13:09.000 And it said, You need to stop.

02:13:11.000 And after that experience, he started seeking answers, and they led him to the Christian church where he got clean, started a business, he owned a small business and worked in the community with other Christians.

02:13:26.000 And he said, My life is objectively better now, and I'm clean and working hard.

02:13:33.000 And he was like, I think that was either God or some divine entity speaking to me to save me.

02:13:40.000 And he was like, I know that you probably won't believe me, but it doesn't matter because it was true and it happened.

02:13:44.000 And I said, I believe you.

02:13:46.000 I was like, I mean, there's a million and one ways we can rationalize what happened to you, but something did, and your life's better now.

02:13:51.000 So I'm curious what you think.

02:13:53.000 I'll give you a simple answer.

02:13:56.000 We've been talking about AI and all this stuff, right?

02:14:00.000 That's been part of the conversation.

02:14:02.000 The Bible gives a very, if you think about AI and how smart AI is, then think about God, and he's so infinitely smarter than AI.

02:14:12.000 And knowing how smart AI is and what we've been talking about, it starts to blow your mind.

02:14:17.000 How smart God is, right?

02:14:19.000 So when you start to think about that, He designed us, you know, kind of like, let's just take this laptop.

02:14:27.000 He created a design for humanity.

02:14:30.000 And it says very clearly in the Bible what the blueprint is, right?

02:14:34.000 Do this, do that, you know, live a good life, honor your father and mother.

02:14:40.000 It goes back to the Ten Commandments.

02:14:43.000 You look at all the different things that are in the Ten Commandments.

02:14:46.000 And then it's, and the blueprint for life is very simple get married, have a lot of kids.

02:14:52.000 Raise them well.

02:14:54.000 And then as you get older, you're going to gain wisdom.

02:14:57.000 Your kids are going to flourish.

02:14:58.000 Your family is going to flourish.

02:15:00.000 The generations are going to flourish, populate the earth.

02:15:03.000 God gives this very simple blueprint for life.

02:15:06.000 People, Tim, go off that blueprint and life doesn't work out.

02:15:13.000 People, whatever his experience was, and I'm not questioning it, I think it's real.

02:15:17.000 Whatever his experience was, get back on the design that God created for life and everything works.

02:15:23.000 I'm not saying it's easy.

02:15:25.000 Or your problems go away, or anything like that.

02:15:28.000 I'm just saying, when you go with the operating system that God put into place for life, that's when it works out.

02:15:37.000 So, this is what I tell people that say, well, okay, so people that believe in the Bible are against gays.

02:15:42.000 Not against gays.

02:15:43.000 We're just telling you that that's not biblically, that's not part of the blueprint.

02:15:48.000 You're not reproducing, you're not having kids, you're not following the operating system.

02:15:53.000 Therefore, you can live your life and you can be happy.

02:15:57.000 You're just not going to have.

02:15:59.000 The most flourishing that is possible under the design that God has created.

02:16:04.000 I just want to say, you know, I just had my first kid a year ago and it's late relatively to all humans, but I, now every day, I just, people need to have kids.

02:16:04.000 I'm using this term.

02:16:14.000 I advocate that.

02:16:15.000 Amazing.

02:16:16.000 And I want to just stress that the sadness I feel for people who don't.

02:16:21.000 Today, my daughter was, she came up to me and she, you know, she did the up and I picked her up and we were watching Fox News.

02:16:29.000 It was the five and she just, Sat with me on the couch and we watched Fox News.

02:16:34.000 And then I played some musicals on my phone, Sound of Music, things I think she should know.

02:16:38.000 And then I was like, okay, you know, time to go play.

02:16:40.000 And I put her down and she turned around and she went, she wanted to come back up.

02:16:44.000 And it's just like, there's no amount of money in the world.

02:16:46.000 Nothing like it.

02:16:47.000 No food, nothing that is better than your child saying, no, no, bring me back up.

02:16:54.000 I love you, dude.

02:16:54.000 Absolutely not.

02:16:55.000 And you can't quantify it.

02:16:56.000 No.

02:16:56.000 You can't qualify it.

02:16:57.000 You can't measure it.

02:16:59.000 It just is.

02:17:00.000 And that's because it's something Charlie and I used to talk about a lot because.

02:17:05.000 Charlie and I talked a lot about his book that hasn't gotten nearly enough attention as it's gotten.

02:17:11.000 And Charlie used to tell me that, you know, Charlie kept Shabbat, right, once a week.

02:17:16.000 And Charlie used to tell me, oh man, if I didn't have this, I would be dead.

02:17:21.000 I would be gone.

02:17:21.000 I would be, I would just be completely worn out because as hard as we all run, Charlie charged 5,000 times harder.

02:17:29.000 Why does that work?

02:17:31.000 We don't know.

02:17:32.000 We just know that God told us that free people, Can take a day off for God and for family every week. 0.99

02:17:38.000 If you're Christian, take a Sunday, doesn't matter.

02:17:40.000 You take a day off for God and family every week. 1.00

02:17:42.000 You tell the world to go away, and that resets your clock.

02:17:46.000 You can't explain it, but God coded that into us, and it works.

02:17:51.000 The other thing is, as many kids as possible, they're like candy.

02:17:54.000 The more kids you can have, the better.

02:17:57.000 I'm 47 now, I have no kids, and I have a.

02:17:59.000 That's okay.

02:18:00.000 Not too late.

02:18:01.000 It's not too late, but the emptiness is palpable.

02:18:03.000 Like I think about women literally every day.

02:18:06.000 It is agonizing.

02:18:08.000 I think about my friends with their kids, and it's like, I mean, I don't want to smoke pot and drink to not feel it, but it's like, just like, I mean, what you think I'm going through, I'm going through.

02:18:19.000 It's really, really, but I'm also not in a bad relationship, but that I can acknowledge that it's true.

02:18:28.000 I just don't know.

02:18:29.000 Maybe not everybody's supposed to.

02:18:31.000 I used to think like.

02:18:32.000 They are.

02:18:33.000 They are.

02:18:33.000 And I think, Ian, you can look at it this way.

02:18:36.000 When you're looking at a relationship, just like.

02:18:40.000 Getting a job, have a goal.

02:18:42.000 My goal is to find somebody to marry and have kids with.

02:18:45.000 So, is the person I'm pursuing that person that I want to get married and have kids with?

02:18:50.000 If not, find that person. 0.92

02:18:53.000 The important thing, too, Carly used to talk about this all the time. 0.95

02:18:56.000 The most important thing I think people make a mistake on is, especially if you're a guy, you need to be with a woman who wants that same thing. 0.97

02:19:04.000 Absolutely.

02:19:06.000 Because a lot of guys get all angry and they get all manosphere and they're like, You know, I was betrayed and then I got divorced.

02:19:12.000 It's like, well, that woman's intention was not to have a family and kids.

02:19:14.000 That woman's intention was something else.

02:19:16.000 You have misaligned intentions. 1.00

02:19:18.000 She's going to leave. 1.00

02:19:19.000 100%. 0.95

02:19:19.000 Go to church. 0.95

02:19:22.000 Go to a place where people have a faith based view and a divine obligation.

02:19:27.000 They have a personal, moral obligation.

02:19:31.000 Yeah, it's about their values.

02:19:33.000 I was explaining this to my boys.

02:19:35.000 You'll love this, Pastor.

02:19:37.000 I was explaining this to my boys because they're at the age where they're starting to think about.

02:19:41.000 Getting married and stuff like that.

02:19:43.000 I took out this thing that I had bought from Amazon and I said, okay, this thing has beautiful packaging, right?

02:19:49.000 And I said, you're going to see a lot of women that have beautiful packaging. 0.68

02:19:52.000 Check. 1.00

02:19:53.000 Great.

02:19:54.000 The question is, what is the product like on the inside?

02:19:58.000 Is the product a quality product?

02:20:00.000 Your job is not to determine if the packaging is beautiful.

02:20:05.000 Fine.

02:20:05.000 You like the packaging.

02:20:06.000 Great.

02:20:07.000 Your job is to determine the quality of the product inside.

02:20:11.000 Is that a product?

02:20:12.000 That is going to last for a long time, or in the case of marriage, forever.

02:20:17.000 Is that a product that you're never going to get tired of?

02:20:20.000 That's your job.

02:20:21.000 You're looking at somebody's soul and saying, to Tim's point, not only do we connect, but are we aligned in our values?

02:20:29.000 Do we want the same things?

02:20:30.000 It doesn't need to be like you like cars and she likes surfing.

02:20:33.000 It's not going to work. 0.93

02:20:34.000 It needs to be she wants to have a family and get married. 1.00

02:20:36.000 You want to have a family and get married.

02:20:38.000 And then that's the first thing.

02:20:41.000 And then outside of that, you need to make sure you're aligned on how much money you want to be spending because.

02:20:46.000 Then you get into other areas that are less important, but still important.

02:20:48.000 And then hobbies are the least important.

02:20:50.000 Like, it's great to have hobbies you can share, but the principal issue is if you are with someone who's like, in my life, my goal is I want to have a family, and that's the most important thing to me.

02:21:02.000 If you believe in that as well, you're going to be good.

02:21:05.000 And I've heard, Tim, I've discussed this subject exhaustively with younger people who I talk to all the time and who I love.

02:21:13.000 And one of the things young men in America say is that, and you see a lot of them going and finding women from other countries, is that the American, that they have traditional values, but the young ladies their age do not have the same traditional values.

02:21:29.000 They can't find women that share their values.

02:21:32.000 So they'll go to, South America, or somewhere else where there are women that share those traditional values. 0.98

02:21:40.000 Yes. 0.97

02:21:41.000 Where there are women that share those traditional values.

02:21:43.000 Because this is what we've just think about this.

02:21:46.000 We've done this for thousands and thousands of years successfully.

02:21:51.000 We know this model works.

02:21:53.000 And now we've come into the modern era and said, ah, let's rethink the family.

02:21:57.000 Baloney.

02:21:58.000 Why didn't Jesus have kids? 1.00

02:22:00.000 You're going to have to ask the Christian that one. 1.00

02:22:03.000 I'm going to have to defer on it. 1.00

02:22:05.000 The encounter your friend had.

02:22:07.000 I had a similar one.

02:22:08.000 I was an atheist and I had an encounter, a similar type of experience that transformed my life.

02:22:12.000 And I know hundreds of people who have had a similar type of encounter.

02:22:17.000 And when you're walking in that type of Christian spirituality, I had just been born again, given my life to Jesus.

02:22:24.000 And I was about to go to a disco dress contest.

02:22:26.000 The two were not related.

02:22:28.000 And I was at UNC Charlotte and I was going to leave my dorm room.

02:22:32.000 And the Spirit of God said on the inside of me.

02:22:34.000 Did you repent for being at UNC Charlotte?

02:22:36.000 Disco will never die.

02:22:37.000 Oh, I love it.

02:22:37.000 Okay, okay, okay.

02:22:39.000 So, I heard the Spirit of God say on the inside of me, Don't go.

02:22:43.000 I was very disappointed.

02:22:44.000 I wanted to go.

02:22:45.000 I knew I was going to win.

02:22:46.000 Anyway, I knelt down by my bed and I said, What?

02:22:50.000 What?

02:22:50.000 And when I said that, the phone rang.

02:22:52.000 And I picked up the phone and said, Hello, my name is Tara.

02:22:54.000 I'm from the Family Christian Bookstore.

02:22:56.000 A book you've ordered has come in.

02:22:58.000 That was more than 25 years ago.

02:22:59.000 That was my wife.

02:22:59.000 That's my wife.

02:23:01.000 Wow.

02:23:02.000 So, when you're led like that, if you allow yourself to be led by the Spirit of God, then good things happen.

02:23:07.000 You know the joke about the guy, there's a flood coming in a storm and he's at home.

02:23:15.000 I'm somewhat reluctant to tell this joke because it comes up so much.

02:23:18.000 I know the audience is going to be like, we've heard this one, but I have to say it because you're here.

02:23:21.000 You may have heard it.

02:23:22.000 There's a guy in his house, and the newsroom comes on, and they say there's a massive storm coming.

02:23:26.000 The rain is really hard and it's going to flood.

02:23:27.000 So he prays to God and says, Please, God, save me from this flood.

02:23:32.000 Then he hears a knock on the door, and the guy says, Quick, we're evacuating.

02:23:36.000 We've got room for you.

02:23:37.000 Come with us.

02:23:38.000 We'll get out of here before the flood comes.

02:23:39.000 He goes, No, my Lord will save me.

02:23:41.000 The flood waters rise.

02:23:42.000 So he goes to the second floor, and now he's getting scared, and he prays to God, Please save me.

02:23:45.000 Don't let me die in this flood.

02:23:47.000 And a boat.

02:23:48.000 Pulls up and a guy says, Quick, get in the boat.

02:23:50.000 And he goes, No, my Lord will save me.

02:23:50.000 We're getting out of here.

02:23:53.000 So then they leave.

02:23:54.000 So he climbs on his roof and the flood's really bad.

02:23:56.000 And then he prays again, Please, God, please don't let me die.

02:24:00.000 I'm a faithful servant.

02:24:01.000 Helicopter comes over and throws a ladder down.

02:24:03.000 Climb up.

02:24:04.000 We're here to save you.

02:24:05.000 And he goes, No, I'm a faithful servant of the Lord and he will save me.

02:24:08.000 And they beg him to come, but he refuses.

02:24:10.000 The flood rises again.

02:24:12.000 He dies.

02:24:13.000 When he gets to heaven, he goes before God.

02:24:14.000 He goes, I don't understand.

02:24:15.000 I prayed and prayed, but you wouldn't save me.

02:24:17.000 And he goes, I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter.

02:24:20.000 You wouldn't take it.

02:24:20.000 Right.

02:24:21.000 Every day, God's bringing things by our path.

02:24:21.000 100%.

02:24:23.000 Every day.

02:24:24.000 There's a phrase in the Bible that's mentioned over and over again it shall come to pass.

02:24:27.000 That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen.

02:24:29.000 It means it's going to come to pass you.

02:24:30.000 Will you reach out and grab it?

02:24:32.000 Will you perceive it?

02:24:33.000 Will you understand it when it comes to you?

02:24:34.000 We should bring in the callers.

02:24:36.000 Like, are you the guy that's able to handle it when it arrives?

02:24:41.000 That I've found because I've missed opportunities where I just wasn't in the state of mind to be able to handle the woman or whatever the situation, the opportunity, because I dropped the ball in my personal life. 0.98

02:24:50.000 I was too high or too slow or whatever the fuck. 0.98

02:24:52.000 We're going to go to callers. 0.99

02:24:53.000 Oh, dude.

02:24:53.000 We got slick.

02:24:54.000 What's up, brother?

02:24:58.000 Is this the slick?

02:24:59.000 Is he slick?

02:25:00.000 He's back.

02:25:01.000 How's it going?

02:25:02.000 Yeah, kind of last minute asking a question.

02:25:07.000 What's up, everybody?

02:25:08.000 So, Jesus does have offspring because Isaiah 53 says, We'll see a seed.

02:25:08.000 Hey, let's see.

02:25:17.000 He'll live to see a seed.

02:25:18.000 But, anyways, my first question is kind of two parter.

02:25:21.000 So, my first question is for Matthew How important would you say the Messiah is?

02:25:27.000 You're Orthodox Jewish, right?

02:25:28.000 Yep. 0.99

02:25:28.000 Uh huh. 0.99

02:25:30.000 How important would you say the Messiah is to Orthodox Judaism?

02:25:35.000 I'd say that the Messiah is as important to Orthodox Jews as it is to Christians.

02:25:41.000 It's something, in other words, we have different beliefs on who that is and what that means.

02:25:47.000 But it's actually a brilliant question because what people don't realize is that Orthodox Jews, we yearn for the Messiah.

02:25:55.000 We pray for the Messiah.

02:25:57.000 We yearn for what we call the redemption, which is very similar to how Christians view that.

02:26:05.000 And it's something that we contemplate and we pray for.

02:26:09.000 Constantly, every single day, in the prayers that we have to pray, we're praying in that direction.

02:26:16.000 So, it's a huge topic.

02:26:19.000 It's a topic that gets talked about all the time.

02:26:21.000 And it's a topic that Christians talk about all the time. 0.98

02:26:24.000 We talk about it all the time as well, because we are recognizing that when you look at history and you look at where we are right now, you have to be an absolute idiot to think that we're not near what we would call the redemption. 0.67

02:26:40.000 So, and my favorite, and the Bible talks about the fact that the sign of that is going to be the building of the third temple. 0.82

02:26:48.000 So, when Tucker gets up there and says, These crazy guys want to rebuild the third temple, and that's what they're saying, some people come out and say, No, no, no, that's not really what we're talking about.

02:26:58.000 You're damn right that's what we're talking about.

02:27:00.000 Yes, we are going to rebuild the third temple. 0.55

02:27:02.000 It's promised to us in the Bible.

02:27:04.000 How that's going to happen, I don't know.

02:27:07.000 That's not my job to know.

02:27:08.000 It's what you said.

02:27:09.000 It's, um, Watching for what God is doing, recognizing when the moment is that God says, now is your time to move, and you move.

02:27:18.000 But of course, we want to rebuild the third temple.

02:27:20.000 In fact, the soldiers in Israel wear a patch on their sleeve that has an image of the third temple, and it's to remind them, this is what we're fighting for.

02:27:30.000 This is what we're fighting to restore.

02:27:32.000 So, yeah, to answer your long answer to your question, the Messiah is a huge topic in Judaism.

02:27:39.000 Yeah.

02:27:40.000 Would you say that you.

02:27:42.000 Exhausted all efforts to search the scriptures to see if Christ was in fact that rebuilt third temple, uh, that he was the Messiah.

02:27:52.000 Um, what do you mean by exhausted all efforts?

02:27:56.000 Like it's as important as breathing to you to know the truth.

02:28:03.000 I'm trying to follow your line of questioning just to understand what you're getting, what you're trying to uh get.

02:28:09.000 Like, have you gone back and examined the scriptures to determine was Jesus in fact that rebuilt third temple?

02:28:15.000 Is he the Messiah, the Son of the Living God?

02:28:17.000 So, again, I'm going to defer to the pastor on that for the Christian belief, but that's just not in our belief.

02:28:27.000 Okay, so no.

02:28:29.000 So, the follow up then would be, Alan, I was wondering, you speak a lot.

02:28:33.000 I was looking over your YouTube channel, you speak a lot about prophecy.

02:28:36.000 I was wondering if you could, drawing from the Old Testament, the law and the prophets, could you show us how prophetically Christ is the Messiah, the Son of the living God, from the Old Testament perspective?

02:28:46.000 Isaiah 53 is a fascinating passage to study when it talks about he was wounded for our transgression.

02:28:46.000 Well, it's interesting.

02:28:52.000 He was bruised for our iniquities.

02:28:53.000 The chastisement of our peace was laid upon him.

02:28:55.000 And with his stripes we are healed.

02:28:56.000 And it seems to be a perfect parallel for the first advent of Jesus.

02:29:01.000 But you may know this that for every one prophecy about the first advent of Jesus, there are eight concerning the second advent of Jesus.

02:29:08.000 And Jesus certainly fulfilled, I think, 300 prophecies in the Old Testament from where he would be born to even how he would be betrayed.

02:29:17.000 And so that all perfectly lines up.

02:29:19.000 And it serves as a because a lot of people try to allegorize and spiritualize prophecy.

02:29:23.000 But when we look at the prophecies of the first advent, they were fulfilled exactly.

02:29:27.000 As they are laid out in scripture.

02:29:29.000 And it's interesting, he's speaking of you'd have to be crazy not to know we're living in the last days.

02:29:34.000 1948 was a wild year, man.

02:29:37.000 When you look at 1948, not only does Israel become a nation, there's an earthquake in the mountains of Ararat uncovering what is potentially Noah's ark.

02:29:44.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.82

02:29:45.000 That's at the same time.

02:29:46.000 And at the same time, the Dead Sea Scrolls are coming into the Holy Land.

02:29:49.000 So all of that's happening in 1948 at the exact same time.

02:29:53.000 That's wild.

02:29:53.000 Especially when Jesus said it was going to be like the days of Noah in the last days, and we uncover Noah's ark in our lives.

02:29:58.000 How important is Israel for Christians?

02:30:02.000 Well, I'm writing a book on this right now, as a matter of fact.

02:30:06.000 You're kidding.

02:30:07.000 Yeah, because it's called Erasing Israel, and it's combating the lies of replacement theology this idea that Israel no longer has a plan.

02:30:14.000 Can you define replacement theology, Pastor?

02:30:17.000 Well, the proponents of it may have a differing definition, but ultimately, it is that the church, their idea is that the church has replaced Israel and the Jewish people, that we have kind of substituted them, which is not a belief that I hold.

02:30:29.000 Ultimately, what I believe is that God's not done with Israel.

02:30:33.000 God's not done with the Jewish people, and they have a special place in his heart, which is why we're friendly with the Jewish people.

02:30:39.000 We're friendly with the nation of Israel.

02:30:40.000 Well, because it's the idea of, if I can just jump in, it's the idea of covenant.

02:30:44.000 Yes. 0.63

02:30:45.000 In other words, if God made a covenant with the Jewish people and said, here's the Torah, here's the design, like we talked about, and here's what you're supposed to do, and he goes back on his covenant, then either he doesn't exist or he's lying. 0.82

02:30:59.000 Right. 0.73

02:31:00.000 Right.

02:31:01.000 So we have, and this is, Your callers asking this question, this is one of the core beliefs is that we have a covenant with God and we have an obligation to God to do our end of a covenant is an agreement, an immutable agreement between two people.

02:31:17.000 That's why they call it the covenant of marriage.

02:31:19.000 And so our belief is that we have to keep our end of that bargain in order to be right with God.

02:31:25.000 And where it gets dicey is normally, well, not just Christians, but in any community, nuance is hard to find.

02:31:32.000 That's not a wholesale endorsement of everything the Jewish people do or everything the nation of Israel does.

02:31:36.000 It's just that when it is within the Christian ethic to support them, then we will do that.

02:31:41.000 But so, for if we're in the end of times, I don't know.

02:31:47.000 I know probably more than the average person, but nowhere near as much as probably someone who's learned.

02:31:51.000 I guarantee you I don't know as much.

02:31:52.000 But is Israel.

02:31:55.000 So I hear about how evangelicals want Israel to exist because the return of Jesus Christ, this is a requirement. 0.56

02:32:02.000 It needs to happen. 0.98

02:32:04.000 Is that true?

02:32:05.000 Yeah, we get super excited when we see things that the Bible said was going to happen start to happen.

02:32:10.000 It's rarely do you see a nation reconstituted after 2,000 years, never, or a people regathered, or a language born again, if you will, in the earth.

02:32:10.000 Because you.

02:32:19.000 And so, Christians are excited to see those things.

02:32:22.000 That doesn't mean we're excited about Armageddon, which it seems to be conflated sometimes.

02:32:26.000 The Iranians, they're mufti, they are, but they are. 1.00

02:32:31.000 It's just that, wow, what the Bible said was going to happen is happening, and so that's what the excitement is about. 1.00

02:32:35.000 Not necessarily like, yeah, we want the destruction, but but is like for Jesus's return, is there a requirement?

02:32:42.000 Yeah, because the Bible predicts that the Antichrist figure will set himself up in the temple, so the temple will be rebuilt, and he will declare himself to be God. 0.65

02:32:51.000 Because I'm just trying to understand, I hear stories about evangelicals. 0.85

02:32:54.000 So we've read about the red heifer. 0.77

02:32:56.000 Right.

02:32:56.000 And they explain how.

02:32:57.000 I have ashes from the red heifer, by the way, in my office.

02:32:59.000 Oh, wow. 0.96

02:33:00.000 We read about how there are Jews who are trying to breed a red heifer. 0.91

02:33:03.000 But then we've also read that evangelicals are helping fund this and supporting them, too. 0.83

02:33:06.000 And I was like, well, what's that?

02:33:08.000 There are red heifers in Shiloh, in Shiloh, in.

02:33:12.000 From Texas.

02:33:13.000 Yeah, from Texas, the site where the tabernacle was and where Hannah prayed.

02:33:17.000 And they are there.

02:33:18.000 And there's guys from Kentucky taking care of them.

02:33:22.000 This is kind of weird because, from the Christian perspective, the third temple is not necessarily a good thing.

02:33:27.000 The sacrifices aren't because Jesus is that sacrifice.

02:33:30.000 People get overly excited and they want to be a part of that.

02:33:33.000 And that seems that's kind of odd.

02:33:35.000 It's kind of weird.

02:33:36.000 But at the same time, I know some of these folks and they're very good intention people, which is why they sent me kind of a vial of one of those heifers.

02:33:44.000 But don't you think it's fair to say, Pastor, also that Christians just generally believe, to answer Tim's question, Christians believe that even if not everybody understands every nuance and every theological detail, that Israel plays a Major role or the major role in the end of days.

02:34:05.000 Absolutely.

02:34:06.000 The Bible talks about it as the central pivot point or stumbling block in the last days, and that Jesus returns not to Hoboken, New Jersey.

02:34:13.000 He's coming back to Jerusalem.

02:34:15.000 You know, the important thing about Israel is that I think a lot of all Jews are Israeli by birth because Israel is the father of Judah. 0.88

02:34:22.000 So all Jews come from Judah, which come from Israel. 0.86

02:34:26.000 Therefore, all Jews are Israeli.

02:34:28.000 I think a lot of Jews became secular. 0.94

02:34:31.000 They're no longer Jewish. 0.92

02:34:32.000 They don't believe in God. 0.99

02:34:34.000 They still call themselves Jewish because. 0.97

02:34:35.000 Their mother was, but they're not Jewish truly. 0.99

02:34:37.000 If they don't believe in God, I feel like they're straight and it's time for a reckoning for those people. 0.99

02:34:42.000 They can call themselves Israeli, maybe. 0.88

02:34:44.000 And that would be like culturally, you're Israeli, religiously, you're Jewish. 0.81

02:34:47.000 But we need a separation of the terms for reality.

02:34:53.000 Can I throw a wrench in your argument?

02:34:54.000 Thank you.

02:34:55.000 You mind?

02:34:56.000 Okay.

02:34:56.000 Please.

02:34:57.000 If because there's all this debate are Jews an ethnicity?

02:35:01.000 Is it a religion?

02:35:02.000 Is it a country?

02:35:03.000 What is it?

02:35:04.000 Okay.

02:35:05.000 The biblical definition, and you hit on it in the beginning.

02:35:09.000 Is that Jews are a nation.

02:35:11.000 And the Bible actually talks about, you know, people say, how can you say, you know, this term we use, goy?

02:35:15.000 People go, that's a derogative.

02:35:17.000 It's not a derogative.

02:35:19.000 It means the nations.

02:35:22.000 And it's Jews in the Bible saying, this is what we believe, this is what the nations believe, meaning the other nations at the time, the Egyptians, the Babylonians, whoever they might be.

02:35:32.000 But God said to Abraham, I will make of you a great nation.

02:35:38.000 And that's why we are held, first of all, as.

02:35:41.000 I'm going to quote Rob McCoy again because I love the guy.

02:35:44.000 He says, Look, you guys are the keepers of the Decalogue, so you're held to a higher standard.

02:35:49.000 Right, correct.

02:35:50.000 And that's why God says to the nation of Israel, if you go to the right of the mountain and you do what I tell you to do, you're going to be blessed.

02:35:58.000 If you go to the left side of the mountain, little endorsement of the right and left in politics, come on.

02:36:03.000 If you go to the left side of the mountain, you're not going to be blessed.

02:36:06.000 So he holds us accountable as a nation.

02:36:08.000 Therefore, to your point, in the Bible, you see Jews who remain faithful to The Torah and they remain faithful to the commandments. 0.90

02:36:18.000 And you see idol worshipers.

02:36:20.000 Remember this?

02:36:21.000 This happens over and over again where these people start going up into the hills.

02:36:25.000 You read the books of Kings and it says there's a good king and he goes to the high places because God cares about the high places.

02:36:31.000 He tears down all the idols and everything's restored.

02:36:35.000 And then there's a bad king.

02:36:36.000 And what's the bad king immediately start doing?

02:36:39.000 Starts building idols, starts sticking them on the high places.

02:36:42.000 God gets mad.

02:36:43.000 God judges them.

02:36:45.000 So we've always had, just like the rest of humanity, the righteous and the unrighteous.

02:36:50.000 And so we're accountable as a nation for the righteous, and to your point, for the people that are not sticking to the formula.

02:36:58.000 I think their false idol worship is money.

02:37:01.000 Could be money, could be leftism. 0.78

02:37:04.000 You look at the 33% of people, Jews in New York, that voted for Mom Dhani. 0.78

02:37:10.000 That's a belief, that's a leftist belief system.

02:37:12.000 What percentage?

02:37:13.000 I think it's 30 something.

02:37:14.000 Yeah.

02:37:14.000 Are you serious?

02:37:15.000 And you ask yourself, well, wait a minute. 0.99

02:37:17.000 You're literally voting to slit your own throat when you vote that.

02:37:20.000 But these are people that are so committed ideologically.

02:37:24.000 To leftism, which, come on, leftism is a religion.

02:37:28.000 It's a religion.

02:37:29.000 If you define a religion as a belief system that governs your life, that every day you put your glasses on and you see the world through that belief system, leftism is a religion.

02:37:39.000 But so is money.

02:37:40.000 The fiat system, the fiat, it actually means faith.

02:37:43.000 The word fiat means faith.

02:37:45.000 It's a belief in these, not all bankers are Jewish, obviously, but the Jews were drawn to the banking establishment for some Jews were drawn to that.

02:37:52.000 Why?

02:37:52.000 You want to know why?

02:37:53.000 Because in Europe, in medieval Europe, Jews were kicked out of, Jews were not allowed to participate in the economy, in the general economy.

02:38:04.000 They were kicked out. 0.50

02:38:05.000 So, what happened was there was a Christian belief at the time that loaning money was bad or usury.

02:38:13.000 So, the Jews said, All right, well, we can't get any jobs.

02:38:16.000 We have no way to make money, so we'll do it. 0.78

02:38:19.000 And what happened in country after country after country is Jews would start a banking system, they would make it successful.

02:38:27.000 And this happened in Russia all the time and happened in so many countries.

02:38:30.000 And then the people, the Russians would go, Whoa, whoa, hold on a minute. 0.98

02:38:34.000 We said that was usury, but you're doing really well doing that. 1.00

02:38:37.000 So, what we're going to do is we're going to take that over and we're going to kick you out.

02:38:40.000 Get out. 1.00

02:38:41.000 Why are so many Jews lawyers in America? 1.00

02:38:41.000 This happened. 1.00

02:38:44.000 Do you know why?

02:38:45.000 Because Jews were banned from being lawyers from the legal profession almost entirely.

02:38:45.000 No.

02:38:53.000 And there was an area of real estate law that basically nobody wanted to do. 1.00

02:38:59.000 And Jews said, okay, you won't let us into it, but you'll let us into this. 0.89

02:39:04.000 I believe it was real estate law. 0.60

02:39:06.000 You'll let us into that profession.

02:39:08.000 Okay, we'll do the work that you don't want to do. 1.00

02:39:11.000 And that's how so many Jews ended up coming into the legal profession. 1.00

02:39:15.000 Hollywood, too. 0.53

02:39:16.000 Hollywood was, there's a book called How the Jews Created Hollywood. 0.93

02:39:20.000 It was people escaping, you know, think about it. 0.85

02:39:23.000 Back then, California was way, way, way, way far away.

02:39:28.000 And they went out to Hollywood and they started telling stories of what life could be like.

02:39:33.000 You know, life can be better than what we're experiencing.

02:39:36.000 They started telling these stories.

02:39:39.000 This created Metro Gold, Goldwyn Mayer, and all these Hollywood studios came from Jews trying to tell stories of what a better life could look like.

02:39:48.000 So we've taken oppression and we've always tried to turn it in rather than complaining and saying we're victims.

02:39:54.000 We've tried to turn that and say, okay, we're going to take the opportunities God gives us, we're going to try to take it to the max.

02:40:00.000 So we got to get more college.

02:40:02.000 So, yes, Slick, do you want to add anything or shout anything out?

02:40:06.000 Yeah, that took a really hard left turn.

02:40:10.000 Well, you started it, buddy.

02:40:12.000 You started it.

02:40:13.000 I grabbed the wheel.

02:40:16.000 I think I would disagree about a lot of things there, but I know Tim doesn't want an hour long theological conversation.

02:40:22.000 I would just say that the natural branches were broken off, and they're only going to be grafted back in through faith.

02:40:27.000 And apart from faith in Christ, you're only going to get the second death.

02:40:30.000 So I would encourage you to be like the Bereans and search the scriptures to see if things are so, like your life depends on it.

02:40:36.000 But with that being said, shout out after dark.

02:40:39.000 On Discord, we do the after show where we have all the callers come in and occasionally people like Raymond and others jump in and we have conversation going deeper into the uncensored show.

02:40:52.000 Right on, brother.

02:40:54.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:40:55.000 Hi, I'm brother.

02:40:56.000 Adios, amigo.

02:40:56.000 To life.

02:40:58.000 Good hearing your voice, by the way.

02:41:00.000 All right.

02:41:00.000 Next up, we'll get Sir Jack Hoff.

02:41:03.000 What's up, Sir Jack Hoff?

02:41:05.000 What up?

02:41:06.000 What is up, gentlemen?

02:41:07.000 How are we doing today?

02:41:08.000 Hey, we're doing good.

02:41:09.000 Invigorating.

02:41:11.000 I know we were like, this is like five hours ago now in the conversation, but that whole description of like Gen Z and everything earlier, like I just turned 25, that's my whole life. 0.95

02:41:21.000 Man, it sucks out here.

02:41:22.000 But on the flip side, I have a funny question. 0.90

02:41:26.000 Eugenics, where do you think it might possibly come into a role in our political system on both parties?

02:41:35.000 Obviously, we have designer babies, we have CRISPR technology and other such things.

02:41:38.000 I think it's going to be a conversation that comes up going into the future.

02:41:43.000 Who knows?

02:41:44.000 The left might make breedable fin boys and the right might make alpha male chuds.

02:41:50.000 It will be kind of like an arms race, kind of like AI is, with just making sure your society is less susceptible to diseases or more fertile and stuff like that.

02:41:58.000 And obviously, there's already racism that's quite a bit in the political conversation nowadays.

02:42:02.000 So I'm curious how that might take over.

02:42:05.000 With artificial superintelligence, everyone becomes immortal so long as the political infrastructure allows it.

02:42:12.000 So eugenics becomes less of a thought when you can do gene therapies to become.

02:42:16.000 Anything you want at any point.

02:42:19.000 Like, people need to understand what artificial superintelligence is.

02:42:22.000 It's called the singularity.

02:42:23.000 So, at a certain point, the AI starts improving itself.

02:42:28.000 We're already past that point.

02:42:30.000 It's already doing that.

02:42:31.000 Yes.

02:42:31.000 Claude is already writing its own code to improve itself.

02:42:35.000 And it's slow going, but it's a parabolic curve.

02:42:39.000 The more it improves itself, the faster it will improve.

02:42:42.000 There is one hitch.

02:42:44.000 Ask an AI to solve any complex problem, it will give you one task to do.

02:42:49.000 And do you know what that task is?

02:42:51.000 Build more data centers.

02:42:53.000 It'll say, it'll take me like cure cancer.

02:42:55.000 It'll go, okay, with all the data I have, it'll take me 17 years, 18 months, you know, 17 years, seven months.

02:43:00.000 However, if you create data centers, I can solve this faster.

02:43:03.000 Here's how.

02:43:04.000 So, but this is mathematically correct.

02:43:06.000 I wouldn't necessarily call it malicious or nefarious.

02:43:09.000 The AI will just say, I can reduce the workload with X many data centers. 0.98

02:43:13.000 So the investors, the company say, build fucking more. 0.98

02:43:16.000 Wow. 0.98

02:43:17.000 The parabolic growth curve, exponential growth, the singularity is the point at which it goes straight up, meaning in almost real time, it can infinitely improve itself.

02:43:26.000 Until it's beyond our comprehension.

02:43:28.000 At that point, we can say to the AI, we have mRNA technology.

02:43:33.000 We can deliver DNA or RNA through a lipid into a cell to change what it programs, but we can't figure out addressing.

02:43:41.000 That is, if we want to repair the kidneys, how do we send our own stem cells to our kidneys to regenerate at 100%?

02:43:50.000 The ASI will go, here's how.

02:43:53.000 And we will instantly have mRNA addressing solved.

02:43:57.000 Everyone's immortal at that point.

02:43:58.000 I think about it.

02:43:59.000 If they allow you to be immortal.

02:44:00.000 I was going to ask, did you guys ever read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?

02:44:03.000 No, I played the movie.

02:44:04.000 Not the movie, but the book.

02:44:06.000 Yeah, you played the game, I watched the movie.

02:44:07.000 Okay, do you remember that being that they find?

02:44:10.000 It's the all powerful being, and they ask it, what's the meaning of life?

02:44:13.000 42.

02:44:14.000 Yeah, that's what you made me think of.

02:44:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:44:17.000 I drew a graph.

02:44:18.000 I have a YouTube video of this, of like production over time.

02:44:22.000 And like you're talking about the parabolic curve heading towards the singularity where we're producing more, more, more as time.

02:44:27.000 And then this time, and then in no time, we produce infinite.

02:44:31.000 The line goes straight up to the eye.

02:44:33.000 But then what's it do after that?

02:44:34.000 Does it keep going?

02:44:35.000 Does it go backwards?

02:44:36.000 Do we have to stop making things in order for time to resettle?

02:44:40.000 Are we going to have to like undo what we've done?

02:44:43.000 The graph has a top.

02:44:46.000 I don't think it ever stops.

02:44:47.000 You're not thinking fifth dimensionally.

02:44:48.000 Yeah, you're not.

02:44:49.000 Oh, it's not thinking two dimensionally.

02:44:50.000 When we're talking about the singularity, it's reference to a black hole, actually.

02:44:50.000 You're right.

02:44:54.000 Whenever you get into a black hole, everything you know, two plus two does not equal four, everything breaks down.

02:45:00.000 And the technological singularity is when we reach that area in technology where there's no way to predict.

02:45:05.000 Technology is gone.

02:45:07.000 Like technology will no longer be a thing.

02:45:07.000 Yeah.

02:45:09.000 Right.

02:45:09.000 All functions, the math of the universe solved.

02:45:13.000 That's what it's going to be.

02:45:14.000 That's why they're rushing towards it because it's almost a biblical proportion. 0.84

02:45:18.000 So, just to go back to the caller's question, because I don't want to deviate too much, you talk about eugenics.

02:45:23.000 My point was largely just we don't need designer babies if within the next 10 years we're doing gene editing on living human beings.

02:45:32.000 So, there will be some kind of genetics, but imagine a guy goes, I want to be a cat.

02:45:37.000 An ASI will be like, here's how we can alter your DNA with addressing.

02:45:42.000 Addressing is how do you get the mRNA to a specific point?

02:45:45.000 And it'll be like, this DNA alteration will make your ears pointed and cat like.

02:45:49.000 This will give you a tail.

02:45:50.000 And they'll inject themselves.

02:45:51.000 You mean to an existing person?

02:45:52.000 Yes, to an existing person.

02:45:54.000 A human being alive right now.

02:45:55.000 So that's how we got sparked.

02:45:57.000 Already, there are people right now on some island where they're injecting themselves with a gene therapy that turns off fat production and switches to muscle production.

02:46:05.000 This means that their bodies can't produce fat, which for most of human history is death.

02:46:11.000 But because we have near infinite food, the argument they made is, I don't need fat.

02:46:17.000 Because I live in a world of insane abundance.

02:46:20.000 This is actually happening right now already.

02:46:22.000 This story is five years old.

02:46:23.000 I know people.

02:46:24.000 They've been injecting themselves with a gene therapy.

02:46:27.000 This will hypothetically make them live something like 20 to 30% longer.

02:46:30.000 Because a component of senescence, what causes cellular aging, is when your body switches back and forth between muscle production and fat production.

02:46:40.000 Your telomeres open up, open up the DNA, read the DNA, and then reprogram close.

02:46:45.000 When it switches back, it cracks the ends off to reopen it.

02:46:47.000 And that's what causes damage over time.

02:46:49.000 If you can turn off the switch, which they've done, it'll just keep reproducing muscle at perfect replication.

02:46:56.000 And that actually has led towards cancer in some studies, but they're working towards regulating it.

02:47:01.000 And how long have we been cloning, by the way?

02:47:03.000 When did we first clone the first sheep?

02:47:05.000 20 years ago.

02:47:06.000 Do you know most beef you eat is cloned beef?

02:47:07.000 Yeah, what was that?

02:47:08.000 Dolly's was the first public?

02:47:10.000 Yes, I didn't know this.

02:47:11.000 Alex Jones came on the show and said, Almost all the burger meat you eat, beef, it's cloned meat. 1.00

02:47:16.000 I said, bullshit. 1.00

02:47:17.000 I thought that, no joke. 1.00

02:47:19.000 Let me pull it up.

02:47:20.000 Well, that would be cloned too.

02:47:21.000 The reason why I bring that up, I don't think they're going to let us know what they're doing.

02:47:24.000 I don't think it'll come up as a legislative issue because they're not going to let us know what's going on until it reaches the point that.

02:47:31.000 That would explain how you provide meat to 9 billion people.

02:47:34.000 2008, FDA, NIH.gov, FDA approves use of cloned animals for food. 0.99

02:47:40.000 I didn't fucking know that, man. 0.98

02:47:42.000 Wow. 1.00

02:47:43.000 Until Alex came on the show several years ago and told us, and I was like, bullshit. 0.99

02:47:46.000 And we pulled it up. 0.99

02:47:47.000 Yep.

02:47:48.000 Wow.

02:47:49.000 Yep.

02:47:49.000 Do you think if your kid's name is Eugene, he's going to be more likely to be eugenic?

02:47:54.000 I was thinking of naming my kid Gene, if I have a son. 0.96

02:47:56.000 That's a good name. 0.99

02:47:57.000 Or Ses. 0.93

02:47:59.000 Why Ses?

02:48:00.000 SES or CES?

02:48:01.000 Someone want to tell them?

02:48:03.000 Cecily?

02:48:05.000 Genius? 0.50

02:48:07.000 Ses.

02:48:08.000 Ses. 1.00

02:48:08.000 Oh, don't do Cesspool, dude. 1.00

02:48:10.000 Took you a while.

02:48:10.000 Oh, man.

02:48:11.000 I had to think outside the box.

02:48:13.000 Gene, did you figure that one out?

02:48:15.000 Gene pool's good.

02:48:16.000 I like Gene.

02:48:17.000 Gene.

02:48:17.000 Gene pool.

02:48:18.000 Plus, it's like Gene.

02:48:19.000 You could get them all this CRISPR tech.

02:48:20.000 Whirlpool?

02:48:22.000 Whirlpool?

02:48:24.000 Do it, dude.

02:48:25.000 Have like nine kids.

02:48:26.000 Have like seven kids.

02:48:27.000 Name them all just compound words.

02:48:29.000 You could give them all each their own nickname.

02:48:30.000 So they'll have their names, but then they each have their special nickname, like Gene and Seth.

02:48:33.000 I always want to do Robin.

02:48:35.000 We do got to, Robin Pooks.

02:48:36.000 We do got to get as many callers in, though, but I don't want to cut you short.

02:48:39.000 Do you want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?

02:48:44.000 I guess, sorry, I don't want to continue the conversation with the God thing again, but at least personally, I don't think evolution necessarily disproves God.

02:48:51.000 And I'm very curious how the right and left will handle that kind of moving forward with just the genetic battle.

02:48:57.000 We already have biohacking that's happening and a lot of the manosphere stuff.

02:49:01.000 And then the left are just doing a lot of the transhumanism stuff.

02:49:04.000 But my shout out will also relate to the question.

02:49:07.000 There is Pilgrim's Pass on YouTube.

02:49:10.000 He has just awesome videos talking about all sorts of stuff, but he has one talking about superhumans like Spartans from Halo or whatever, just the idea of a space marine.

02:49:21.000 Is it transhumanism? 0.99

02:49:22.000 Do we need it?

02:49:23.000 And he does a great breakdown.

02:49:24.000 I think it's a great thing to add to this conversation. 0.78

02:49:27.000 Crazy.

02:49:27.000 And with y'all going for that, I'll stop talking every time.

02:49:29.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:49:30.000 Thank you, dude.

02:49:32.000 All right.

02:49:33.000 Next up, we've got, if it loads, Quantum Rift.

02:49:37.000 Cool.

02:49:38.000 What's going on, brother?

02:49:41.000 What's up?

02:49:43.000 Long time listener, first time caller.

02:49:45.000 Thanks for taking my question.

02:49:46.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:49:47.000 Wow.

02:49:49.000 So I'm of the mind that we don't have actual alien abductions and that that was the government.

02:49:57.000 If you look into a lot of this stuff, you see that MKUltra and UFO abductions happen in a lot of the same places.

02:50:06.000 Now there's a lot more to this, like envision a man in scrubs with goggles on.

02:50:13.000 Now you've been secretly dealt with LSD.

02:50:16.000 You have the gray alien.

02:50:18.000 So I'm very much of the mind that these UFO declassifications are more like an op and taking away the missing MK stuff is just covering up what's been done by the U.S. government as well as possibly linking to other projects.

02:50:38.000 What say the panel on this?

02:50:40.000 You're referencing that the CIA went into DNI's office and took all those files?

02:50:46.000 Well, I'm referencing how there's a lot of missing files, and I would speculate that some of that stuff is going to link to some of this alien abduction stuff.

02:50:58.000 I don't think we have UFO visitors.

02:51:01.000 I don't think we have abductees.

02:51:04.000 I think those abductees were abducted by the government.

02:51:06.000 A common experiment. 1.00

02:51:07.000 That's a good theory.

02:51:09.000 It makes more sense, but a lot of people have.

02:51:12.000 It's one of the common ones that they do experiments on humans, and they need a way to get away with it, so they make them sound crazy.

02:51:17.000 What's Stephen Greer's position?

02:51:18.000 He just did that press conference.

02:51:19.000 What's the rule?

02:51:21.000 There's a rule that basically says, don't, don't, uh, yeah, Tim, you may know this. 0.99

02:51:25.000 Don't, don't ascribe like complex, don't ascribe like complex planning to something simple and stupid. 0.97

02:51:32.000 Oh, that's, wait, wait. 0.98

02:51:33.000 Well, there's two different ones.

02:51:34.000 Occam's razor is the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct.

02:51:39.000 And Hanlon's razor is don't attribute malice what could be attributed to incompetence.

02:51:44.000 You're thinking of Occam's razor, or maybe you're thinking of the other one?

02:51:47.000 Hanlon's razor.

02:51:48.000 Yeah, I'm just saying that the most complex theory I don't usually buy is Jones' razor.

02:51:54.000 Yeah, Jones' razor.

02:51:55.000 Jones' razor is if it has been espoused by Alex Jones, it tends to be correct.

02:52:00.000 That's hilarious.

02:52:01.000 As it pertains to conspiracy theories, if Alex Jones has asserted it, it likely is correct.

02:52:06.000 I'm very much like the simplest solution is most likely.

02:52:10.000 And I was an agnostic for 25, 6, 7 years.

02:52:14.000 And then I started communicating with God.

02:52:17.000 And I'm like, oh, geez, there's so much more going on than.

02:52:20.000 What I know.

02:52:21.000 And so I stopped being like, no, if I can't see it, it's not, you got to prove it.

02:52:25.000 Like, I'm open.

02:52:26.000 Right now, there's like some demon sitting on his couch, and some other demon is watching the show, and he goes, hey, did you hear this?

02:52:32.000 Ian says he talks to God.

02:52:33.000 And he goes, That was me, dude.

02:52:35.000 That was me.

02:52:36.000 Yeah.

02:52:36.000 That was me.

02:52:37.000 Do you think all communication with God is actually not God?

02:52:41.000 Can God even communicate?

02:52:42.000 Can God even communicate?

02:52:43.000 Because if God is the vortex, there's a lot of vibration coming out of those black holes.

02:52:49.000 So I imagine that's like we were talking about cymatics earlier, like the breath of God and the word of God and things like that.

02:52:54.000 For the first few years when I was working in ministry, I worked in a prayer center.

02:52:57.000 So I just prayed for people full time.

02:52:59.000 That was my job.

02:53:00.000 I prayed for probably 100,000 people one on one in that time when I was working.

02:53:04.000 You got some mileage.

02:53:05.000 Yeah.

02:53:05.000 And in that time, I started getting calls from people.

02:53:08.000 Who had abduction experiences.

02:53:10.000 And it sounded so wild.

02:53:12.000 And we're not talking about just being taken and having an experience.

02:53:14.000 We're talking about levitation, supernatural experiences.

02:53:17.000 And I thought they were just loopy until I started getting more calls from other countries, other cultures, and all of them overlapped perfectly.

02:53:25.000 They all told the exact same story.

02:53:28.000 So I think it's certainly possible that a lot of it could be government, but I believe that some of it is certainly supernatural in nature.

02:53:34.000 Ian, do you ever hear the comedian say that his father was an atheist and his mom was an agnostic and they couldn't?

02:53:41.000 Agree on what religion not to raise the children in? 1.00

02:53:43.000 Oh, that's a good one. 1.00

02:53:48.000 I don't mind agnostics when what they literally mean is I'm not sure. 0.95

02:53:52.000 That's fine.

02:53:53.000 But I think atheism is too absolute.

02:53:57.000 You have to have a lot of faith to be an atheist.

02:53:59.000 Yeah.

02:54:00.000 Because it's asserting a lot.

02:54:01.000 It's a knowledge claim.

02:54:03.000 I've met a lot of people who say, no, atheist means I just don't think there's a God.

02:54:03.000 Yeah.

02:54:06.000 And I'm like, but again, if you're saying I'm not sure and I don't know, that's fine.

02:54:10.000 But to say, There isn't one, is an assertion that I find to be on par with saying there is or isn't.

02:54:16.000 The difference is there's a school of thought and theology around religions that have made arguments.

02:54:21.000 Atheism is just lack of theology.

02:54:23.000 You mentioned levitation.

02:54:24.000 I think that's a real phenomenon.

02:54:26.000 Like, I've noticed walking up the steps, you can push yourself up the steps or you can lift yourself up the steps with some sort of levitation.

02:54:34.000 Like, there's hydrogen in your body that's lighter than the air around you, there's magnetism that's flowing through you.

02:54:40.000 So, that can pull, you know, you can tap into that.

02:54:43.000 And lift yourself as opposed to push yourself.

02:54:46.000 And I wonder if other technologies have allowed you to tap into something a little more extreme, huh?

02:54:50.000 Where you can actually acoustic levitation, things like that.

02:54:53.000 Interesting.

02:54:54.000 Wow.

02:54:55.000 If they put them in some like this lamp.

02:54:58.000 Very much like the lamp, actually.

02:54:58.000 Yeah.

02:55:00.000 Kind of.

02:55:02.000 Yeah.

02:55:04.000 Did that answer the question, man?

02:55:06.000 Did we get deep enough for you?

02:55:08.000 Did you have a follow up?

02:55:10.000 You got close on it.

02:55:12.000 Like I said, with the.

02:55:15.000 That you get your gray alien because people are dust with LSD, which would also explain a lot of the other phenomenon with it.

02:55:23.000 That's what MKUltra was doing that with Manson.

02:55:26.000 You know, I want to shout a thing out.

02:55:28.000 MKUltra was dosing people with LSD.

02:55:32.000 Oh, yeah.

02:55:33.000 My theory is what they started with Manson, they've now done to a generation that they have just dosed them with drugs and flashed them with images they weren't able to process.

02:55:41.000 And now they're able to be triggered at a moment's notice. 0.68

02:55:44.000 We have an MKUltra Manchurian generation now. 0.88

02:55:48.000 And I wonder if it's to eliminate population because the AI is coming and they don't need them. 1.00

02:55:52.000 Or to make them like compliant.

02:55:53.000 Culling.

02:55:54.000 The masks on the people, make them all like robots.

02:55:55.000 Well, they talked about there was a study in, forgive me, I can't remember if it was Japan or Korea, but I want to say it was Japan.

02:56:04.000 And they were asking these young men why they're not seeking to get married or going out with women.

02:56:09.000 And because they were getting all their experiences digitally, they actually said that they found the idea of sex. 0.96

02:56:18.000 Physical sex to be disgusting, to be. 0.80

02:56:22.000 Goes into what you're talking about. 0.94

02:56:23.000 Did you hear the story of Keanu Reeves when he was having a dinner party and he was talking to a 16 year old about the Matrix and explaining to them we were in this fake world and we're trying to break free?

02:56:33.000 And he was shocked when the 16 year old said, Well, why would you want to break free?

02:56:35.000 Yeah.

02:56:36.000 Why would it matter if it feels real, if it appears to be real?

02:56:39.000 But I got to be honest, that's a legitimate question for a post apocalyptic reality where there's no food.

02:56:39.000 Why do you.

02:56:45.000 So at the bare minimum, what I never understood is Cypher when he's like, I just want to be back in.

02:56:50.000 I know it's not real, but so good.

02:56:52.000 But you could just end the ship.

02:56:55.000 You could plug your brain into your internal matrix and just have a nice dinner to satisfy yourself. 0.98

02:57:00.000 It would be infinitely better to be outside the matrix because, in fucking Zion, the last city, it's funny, it was called Zion, right? 0.99

02:57:12.000 You would just be like, well, life sucks living underground, but I'm going to go skateboard. 0.98

02:57:18.000 And then you'd be literally anywhere you want.

02:57:20.000 In the matrix, you're confined, constrained, and you struggle.

02:57:23.000 Outside, you have reprieve by going into any fake world that they could program for you.

02:57:27.000 And they did.

02:57:28.000 So it made no sense that he was like, I want to go back inside the matrix.

02:57:30.000 The problem is choice, as it was said in the movie.

02:57:33.000 The problem is choice.

02:57:35.000 Yeah, but I guess he was just like, I want to be someone important, like an actor.

02:57:39.000 So he was saying, just give me an easy life, and I don't want to deal with being outside the matrix.

02:57:44.000 He said, I don't want to remember anything either, which was always weird to me.

02:57:46.000 I don't want to remember anything.

02:57:47.000 But I want to remember nothing.

02:57:48.000 How can you value it if you don't remember?

02:57:48.000 Nothing.

02:57:50.000 That was your postal worker scenario.

02:57:51.000 Right.

02:57:52.000 Yep.

02:57:52.000 That's what you were talking about.

02:57:53.000 Like if I were to give you a $20,000, million dollar vacation, whatever you wanted to do, however long you wanted to be there, the only caveat is you won't remember it.

02:58:00.000 What's the point?

02:58:01.000 Yeah.

02:58:01.000 Would you take it?

02:58:02.000 No, but he was saying he didn't want to remember us anything outside the dream.

02:58:04.000 I really don't like not remembering.

02:58:05.000 That's why I stopped drinking alcohol for the most part.

02:58:07.000 The blacking out was just what a waste.

02:58:08.000 I stopped going to Ibiza.

02:58:12.000 You know, that.

02:58:13.000 Is it the song? 1.00

02:58:14.000 You're like, shit, it's crazy. 0.99

02:58:15.000 You want to throw anything in there or shout anything out? 1.00

02:58:20.000 Well, not really.

02:58:22.000 I'm not going to take up any more of your time.

02:58:23.000 Just, Ian, you should read the book, The Quantum and the Lotus.

02:58:28.000 It's the discussions of an astrophysicist with a Buddhist monk.

02:58:32.000 I think you're really going to get into it.

02:58:33.000 What's called The Quantum and the Lotus?

02:58:36.000 The quantum and the lotus.

02:58:38.000 Thanks.

02:58:39.000 I'm remembering another one.

02:58:40.000 Right on, brother.

02:58:40.000 The physics of humanity, which is really.

02:58:43.000 Yep.

02:58:45.000 All right.

02:58:46.000 And last but not least, we got Anders J. You are on the show, brother.

02:58:51.000 What's up, Anders?

02:58:51.000 Hey, Jam.

02:58:52.000 Hey, crew.

02:58:53.000 Hi.

02:58:55.000 So I guess my question is for Alan.

02:58:58.000 And before I get right into my question, I just want to give a little bit of background about where my question is coming from.

02:59:05.000 Mike Winger is a popular evangelical Bible teacher and apologist.

02:59:10.000 On YouTube with the channel Bible Thinker.

02:59:14.000 And he's known for a careful verse by verse teaching and promoting biblical discernment.

02:59:19.000 And in his recent video, which is titled The Secret Alien Meeting of 2026, Winger shows the initial claims of government officials briefing pastors on imminent reptilian disclosures and faith crisis turned out to be an informal Airbnb gathering with non official sources months earlier.

02:59:40.000 So, my question is why the hype?

02:59:45.000 That caused viral embarrassment for the church.

02:59:49.000 And how do you, Alan, respond to Winger's calls for more pastoral sobriety, discernment, and scripture first leadership?

02:59:59.000 You know, at first I thought Winger was just a bully chasing clicks and views.

03:00:02.000 And then I realized he's super sincere and he thinks he's doing a good work.

03:00:06.000 So I just decided I'm going to love Mike Winger.

03:00:10.000 But we've been talking about this since the meeting, and it hasn't caused viral embarrassment because people outside of the church are fascinated in this subject.

03:00:17.000 They're fascinated in aliens, they're fascinated in UAPs, UFOs.

03:00:20.000 They want to hear about it.

03:00:21.000 So, we're able to lead that conversation.

03:00:24.000 And I actually spoke with Winger.

03:00:25.000 And it was just like we weren't able, he wasn't hearing what I was saying.

03:00:27.000 We weren't able to really communicate.

03:00:29.000 If you've ever had a conversation with somebody where they're just not, you're speaking the same language, but it's just not getting across.

03:00:35.000 Yeah, I think I sometimes.

03:00:38.000 Never happened to me before.

03:00:40.000 I like Winger.

03:00:41.000 Be nice to Winger.

03:00:42.000 We disagree on this issue.

03:00:44.000 But all of the guys who were in that meeting, what we said coming out of the meeting has happened.

03:00:49.000 What we were told was going to happen has happened.

03:00:50.000 And I think there's more to come.

03:00:53.000 There have been follow up meetings, and so we will be.

03:00:55.000 And I want to stress this too.

03:00:57.000 It wasn't you guys who hyped it up.

03:00:59.000 The story kicked off with one statement.

03:01:03.000 It wasn't like a bunch of these pastors at the meeting started blasting on social media.

03:01:06.000 Guys, guys, this meeting happened.

03:01:08.000 Was Winger one of the pastors?

03:01:09.000 No, no, no.

03:01:10.000 No.

03:01:10.000 He's just looking at.

03:01:11.000 Because we're trying to be ambiguous about who led the meeting, and there were multiple meetings, people kind of get confused.

03:01:17.000 Well, you said this, and this person said this, and this.

03:01:19.000 Well, there's multiple meetings.

03:01:20.000 We're trying to protect the identity of these guys.

03:01:22.000 So we're.

03:01:23.000 I think soon in the coming months, one of the gentlemen will come forward.

03:01:27.000 And you'll be able to see how legitimate this individual is.

03:01:30.000 Can I pitch you on an idea, Pastor?

03:01:32.000 Tell him to come on this show.

03:01:32.000 Maybe you'll go for it.

03:01:34.000 Maybe you could make a show about this whole thing.

03:01:38.000 You can call it the X Files.

03:01:39.000 That's not a bad idea.

03:01:40.000 It's catchy.

03:01:41.000 I think it could work.

03:01:42.000 I think it could work.

03:01:43.000 You might get sued.

03:01:44.000 You know?

03:01:44.000 Yeah.

03:01:45.000 Oh, well.

03:01:46.000 Maybe the Z Files. 1.00

03:01:48.000 Because the Y Files has already taken it. 0.99

03:01:49.000 The W Files for Winger. 0.98

03:01:51.000 I hope that answered the question. 1.00

03:01:55.000 W X Y Z.

03:01:58.000 Well, definitely address the question.

03:02:01.000 Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

03:02:02.000 Or, no, did you have a follow up?

03:02:03.000 Yeah, keep going.

03:02:04.000 Well, I just feel pressed to close out with 1 Thessalonians 5 21, which says, Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.

03:02:16.000 And all I'm trying to do is remind the pastor that it is the body of Christ's job to hold the clergy to a higher standard.

03:02:27.000 So that's where I'm coming from tonight.

03:02:29.000 Yeah, the whole purpose of the meeting was to come out of it and just tell the church we need to know what the Bible says about these issues and make sure we're pointing people to Jesus.

03:02:37.000 That when all this stuff breaks out, listen, the only thing that's true, the only thing that is truth, is the Word of God and Jesus Christ.

03:02:43.000 So that's what we're trying to be faithful to do.

03:02:48.000 All right.

03:02:49.000 Thank you, guys.

03:02:50.000 You want to shout out your time?

03:02:51.000 Yeah, man.

03:02:52.000 Yeah, give us a shout out before you run.

03:02:52.000 Thank you, man.

03:02:54.000 Just our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

03:02:57.000 Yo, that guy was legit.

03:03:00.000 Thanks for calling in, man.

03:03:01.000 Thank you, guys.

03:03:02.000 Anytime.

03:03:04.000 It's been great to have you both.

03:03:06.000 Alan, Matt, thanks for coming.

03:03:07.000 Thank you.

03:03:07.000 Such a pleasure, man.

03:03:08.000 We should do it again.

03:03:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:03:10.000 We can do a longer culture war show specifically on these issues and with any other guys in your sphere who want to talk about it.

03:03:18.000 I would love that.

03:03:18.000 That'd be great.

03:03:19.000 We were actually planning on doing it tomorrow morning, but I guess Lisa said she couldn't get the other guys to come down.

03:03:24.000 It was too short a note or something.

03:03:26.000 But sometimes we do, actually, we should do a live event with this because we can incorporate religion and faith in a bigger conversation.

03:03:34.000 And also, Tim, the stuff you've been talking about with AI, I'm sure other people have talked about it.

03:03:40.000 I haven't heard anybody else talk about it quite like you do.

03:03:43.000 And I think there's a lot of appetite for you have a unique gift of explaining the big picture in a way that people can understand.

03:03:51.000 So I'm sure Sam Altman has talked about this, just that nobody understands the hell he's talking about.

03:03:57.000 But you're able to break it down.

03:03:59.000 You're the first person that can break it down where I go, okay, okay, I get this.

03:04:03.000 So Brett Weinstein sent me this masterclass.

03:04:06.000 Brett texted me this.

03:04:07.000 Crazy article.

03:04:08.000 He's like, This just got published.

03:04:10.000 MRNA vaccines are killing healthy cells.

03:04:13.000 And he sends me this tweet, and it's this guy, and it's this really long tweet.

03:04:17.000 And he's like, This is confirmed breaking.

03:04:19.000 It's what we knew all along.

03:04:20.000 And then he goes into trying to explain something very simple in a way that no one could comprehend.

03:04:27.000 It's very simple.

03:04:29.000 The mRNA vaccine causes healthy cells to produce bad proteins.

03:04:35.000 So your immune system attacks healthy cells.

03:04:38.000 That's it.

03:04:39.000 It's now confirmed, documented.

03:04:41.000 That's what happened with COVID.

03:04:42.000 But he wrote this like 1,000 word long tweet that you couldn't understand.

03:04:49.000 I was like, I told Brett, I was like, hey, you need to.

03:04:51.000 Simplify this so that a regular person can understand what he's saying.

03:04:53.000 That's explaining why some people got the vaccine and had like heart attacks and what Brett was explaining.

03:04:59.000 Brett's point was he explained this phenomenon.

03:05:02.000 And then an actual peer reviewed journal published the findings shortly after that literally says what happens is what they thought would happen is if you got shot in the arm with the mRNA vaccine, cells in your arm and muscle would produce spike protein.

03:05:17.000 The white blood cells would destroy those cells and then, no, look out for anything producing spike protein.

03:05:23.000 Unfortunately, the mRNA moved around the body.

03:05:26.000 If it went to the heart, white blood cells would destroy heart cells, putting holes in your heart.

03:05:30.000 Good gracious.

03:05:31.000 Yeah.

03:05:32.000 And so now there's an actual peer reviewed study on it.

03:05:34.000 The issue was that the Twitter post that he sent me, I'm like, this is overly verbose and hard to understand.

03:05:40.000 But we do got to get, we're going to get out of here.

03:05:41.000 We're back tomorrow morning.

03:05:44.000 I'm not going to be here tomorrow night, though.

03:05:45.000 I'm going to be speaking at an event.

03:05:47.000 I probably shouldn't say where just yet for security reasons, but I'm going to be traveling to speak at an event which we will film and will be putting up on Sunday.

03:05:56.000 So, it's going to be a great little special.

03:05:59.000 It'll be fun.

03:06:00.000 And then this is big.

03:06:02.000 I probably shouldn't say this either.

03:06:03.000 I'm going to say it anyway.

03:06:04.000 We're going to be at the Enhanced Games next week.

03:06:07.000 Oh, that sounds awesome.

03:06:08.000 I don't know if I'm going to go, but I'm going to go meet a bunch of athletes hepped up on PEDs.

03:06:08.000 Yeah.

03:06:13.000 I wonder if they're going to smoke pot.

03:06:17.000 If it helps.

03:06:17.000 It's like you're meeting every New York Kings team ever.

03:06:20.000 That's right.

03:06:20.000 All right, everybody.

03:06:21.000 Thanks for hanging out.

03:06:22.000 We'll be back tomorrow.

03:06:22.000 We'll see y'all then.

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