Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Democrats FREEZE $90M Of Biden Funds, It's DONE He Is OVER w-Kyle Becker

00:00:00.000 Major Democrat donors have frozen $90 million in pledges to Democrats, and they are demanding

00:00:20.000 that Joe Biden step down if they want this money.

00:00:23.000 I do not see how this man can recover from this.

00:00:25.000 I mean, his press conferences following the debate have only made things worse.

00:00:30.000 And now more and more of the donors are saying no way.

00:00:33.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:00:34.000 He's being flat out told by Democrats to resign more and more.

00:00:38.000 We've got bigger news with Elon Musk donating to a pact to elect Donald Trump, and Facebook has reinstated Donald Trump's accounts, removed the restrictions.

00:00:47.000 And it's funny because just one day ago, Donald Trump kinda issued this veiled threat against Zuckerbucks.

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00:02:38.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Kyle Becker.

00:02:42.000 Hey, it's great to be on the show, Tim.

00:02:43.000 I'm looking forward to everything you got lined up for us tonight.

00:02:47.000 It should be very interesting.

00:02:49.000 Who are you?

00:02:49.000 What do you do?

00:02:50.000 Yeah, so I'm an independent journalist, a producer, a writer.

00:02:54.000 I'm basically just a political analyst and a commentator.

00:02:59.000 Right on.

00:03:00.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

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00:03:04.000 Yes, thank you very much, Tim.

00:03:05.000 I fly back tomorrow so everyone gets a break from me.

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00:03:11.000 Carl would have been here, but he's an old man and he had to go to bed, so I'm standing in instead.

00:03:15.000 Yes, I am shaming him.

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00:03:22.000 Hi, everyone.

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00:03:23.000 Hey, Tim.

00:03:24.000 Hey, Conor, what's your Twitter account?

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00:03:26.000 At Conn underscore Tomlinson.

00:03:28.000 And Kyle, you're Kyle A. Kyle N. A. Becker.

00:03:28.000 Thanks, man.

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00:03:49.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

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00:03:58.000 Major Democrat donors freeze $90 million in pledges to largest Biden super PAC until he agrees to exit the race.

00:04:07.000 The frozen donations reportedly include multiple eight-figure commitments.

00:04:11.000 According to a report from the New York Times, the frozen donations include eight-figure commitments.

00:04:15.000 The decision to withhold such enormous sums of money is one of the most concrete examples of the fallout from Mr. Biden's poor debate performance at the end of June.

00:04:23.000 The Times report cited two unnamed sources who only agreed to speak to the paper under the condition of anonymity.

00:04:29.000 They say the two people briefed on frozen pledges declined to say which individual donors were pulling back promised checks, which were estimated to total above or around $90 million.

00:04:39.000 It was not clear how much of the pledged money was earmarked for future Forward SuperPACs versus its non-profit arm, which has also been running advertising in key battleground states.

00:04:48.000 The SuperPAC has been shying away from making major strategic decisions until it gets clarity on who will be atop the ticket according to a separate person close to the group.

00:04:59.000 I'll say this.

00:05:00.000 I don't know this means that donors are saying no to Joe Biden.

00:05:04.000 It sounds like what they're saying is a combination of no to Joe Biden, but also what commercials are we running?

00:05:12.000 We're not going to spend millions of dollars on ads for a guy who won't be the nominee in a week.

00:05:17.000 So, what can they do?

00:05:19.000 I think this is one of the biggest dominoes to fall, and it's going to result in... I mean, it's the inevitable.

00:05:25.000 Joe Biden cannot be the nominee.

00:05:27.000 At this point, the money that's not going to Democrats for the presidential race will negatively impact all of the congressional races, and there is going to be a cacophony of people, Democratic Party members, just screaming, Biden's gotta go.

00:05:42.000 I think you're right.

00:05:43.000 I mean, one of the issues here is that they want to have success in other parts of the race.

00:05:48.000 And so much of presidential election cycles are wrapped up who's on top of the ticket.

00:05:52.000 So I've seen a lot of reporting that donors are sort of caught in between.

00:05:56.000 They don't necessarily like Biden.

00:05:57.000 They also don't want to spend money on someone that they don't like.

00:06:00.000 On the other hand, some are pulling out, holding all of their donations everywhere.

00:06:04.000 And some are saying, well, we'll still give down ticket, but we don't want to give to Biden.

00:06:07.000 It's just becoming a more chaotic system every day.

00:06:11.000 Yeah, I think that earlier, Nancy Pelosi tipped her hand when she basically gave Biden a week to make a decision.

00:06:19.000 After he sent out his letter saying, I've made a decision, I'm staying in.

00:06:23.000 Right, right, exactly.

00:06:24.000 And then Obama, of course, with George Clooney, you know, he runs the letter by him, you know, I love you, Joe, but you got to go.

00:06:30.000 This is about your age.

00:06:31.000 This is about anything.

00:06:32.000 So they're kind of like softly trying to nudge him out of the White House before the convention so they don't have to pull a coup and go to secret ballots and super delegate him.

00:06:41.000 But, you know, in Michigan tonight, Joe Biden's out there saying, like, you know, I'm not going anywhere, you know, it's almost like Wolf of Wall Street, you know, it's like, but, you know, the knives are out in the media, you know, Obama's basically behind the scenes with a lot of these, you know, media outlets.

00:06:56.000 So I think that's really, you know, the mark of imprimatur that, you know, Barack is kind of behind the scenes putting on this that, you know, Biden's people seem to be the last to know.

00:07:09.000 There's a holdout.

00:07:10.000 They're done.

00:07:11.000 They're done.

00:07:12.000 So here's the question that I have, right?

00:07:13.000 Because all of this speculation is in the press, and there's been speculation, of course, about Hillary Clinton, Whitmer, Newsom, Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris even.

00:07:23.000 When you look to the prediction markets – I've got a prediction pulled up right here.

00:07:27.000 Michelle Obama is only at around $0.06 a share, right?

00:07:30.000 Joe Biden, once again, is the frontrunner.

00:07:32.000 That's surprising.

00:07:33.000 Kamala Harris jumped ahead with, you know, earlier I think she had like $0.53 and Biden had like $0.33.

00:07:38.000 It was a huge split.

00:07:40.000 Biden's back on top.

00:07:42.000 But if people really do think, one, that Barack Obama is orchestrating a coup behind the scenes and that Joe Biden will likely be forced out because of it, Then why not bet on Michelle Obama?

00:07:53.000 Why isn't Michelle Obama higher up than Kamala Harris?

00:07:56.000 I heard that she said she didn't want to do it.

00:07:58.000 She doesn't want to do it.

00:07:59.000 She's never been politically ambitious.

00:08:01.000 But what does that mean?

00:08:02.000 Like Hillary Clinton had already secured her place in the Senate by the time her husband was leaving office, right?

00:08:08.000 She was ready to take her time as a first lady and launch her next phase of her political career.

00:08:12.000 Michelle Obama, you know, has been on the yachts and has these adult daughters now.

00:08:17.000 She's happy to be wealthy and influential and to do the talk show circuit when she has a book out, but she's never really shown any interest in holding some level of political office, at least post her days as the first lady.

00:08:29.000 But I don't think a lack of displaying A desire for this is indicative of she doesn't want to do it.

00:08:37.000 Well, something that I would find interesting is if Obama was truly behind the George Clooney op-ed, why was her name not floated in the op-ed?

00:08:45.000 Because I believe it was only Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom that was mentioned.

00:08:49.000 And you're right in that if she was politically ambitious, the time to do it would have been off the back of Becoming, which in the UK, was over every single billboard on all of the bus stops and

00:09:00.000 all the train stations, so there was a mass marketing campaign around that she

00:09:04.000 still looked upon favorably by the normie establishment. Doesn't seem she wants to do it, even

00:09:09.000 though she probably would be a compelling candidate for some of those people that think

00:09:13.000 Joe Biden has his brain leaking out of his ears but don't think they could vote for Trump based

00:09:17.000 on vibes. I think in the background of this is the logistics of trying to get anybody except

00:09:22.000 Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket, because there are a number of swing states, Pennsylvania

00:09:27.000 being one, where you cannot, after you get the delegates in that state, you cannot

00:09:32.000 switch.

00:09:33.000 Like after the primary, you cannot switch them out.

00:09:36.000 They don't transfer.

00:09:37.000 A lot of states they do, but there are like three or four major swing states where they just won't.

00:09:42.000 They're being bugged.

00:09:44.000 Yes, I know.

00:09:45.000 I hit a nerve there.

00:09:46.000 Mike Pence, there you go.

00:09:51.000 So, you know, I think the logistics of it is really, really difficult to try to just airdrop Michelle Obama, you know, in a parachute at the convention and just be like, ta-da, you know, here's your new candidate.

00:10:02.000 I think, you know, also there's the other factor of Kamala Harris getting passed over.

00:10:06.000 I think they made a big deal out of making her You know, essentially a DEI thing.

00:10:12.000 I don't think it's unfair to say because of the way Biden, you know, postured it at the time.

00:10:17.000 And that's going to cause a major schism.

00:10:20.000 So we could see something at the convention like 1968 Redux, if anybody but Kamala Harris is the nominee.

00:10:27.000 But I think, you know, what you said about Michelle Obama's valid.

00:10:33.000 Yeah, but what I'm saying is, with all of these people suggesting it, her odds should be higher.

00:10:46.000 Everyone is convinced it's going to be Biden or Kamala Harris, which I think is stupid.

00:10:51.000 I think makes no sense.

00:10:52.000 Certainly could be the case, but Gavin Newsom should be higher than Kamala.

00:10:56.000 The idea that there is no way around Kamala Harris does not make sense.

00:11:00.000 She's not going to do better than Joe Biden.

00:11:03.000 So if the real issue is that Joe can't win, Kamala can't win either.

00:11:07.000 So they would need Newsom or Michelle Obama.

00:11:12.000 Then when we hear that it is Obama himself behind the scenes orchestrating this, I think that is even a tiny morsel of evidence that Michelle Obama is going to be the pick.

00:11:24.000 I just don't agree.

00:11:25.000 I think that if she had wanted a political career, we would have known by now.

00:11:28.000 And I suspect even if Obama is the one behind it, he's like, Michelle, please run.

00:11:32.000 And she's like, absolutely not.

00:11:34.000 Please leave me alone.

00:11:35.000 I've told you every year I don't want to do this.

00:11:35.000 I told you before.

00:11:38.000 I think you're right.

00:11:39.000 There's a certain level.

00:11:39.000 We don't know.

00:11:40.000 I mean, we don't know it, but we also can make an assumption based on the fact that she didn't seek political office after the White House.

00:11:47.000 I think you're right.

00:11:48.000 That makes no sense.

00:11:49.000 I think it makes a lot of sense given other people's history.

00:11:51.000 She fainted in the background pretty happily.

00:11:53.000 The lack of evidence is not evidence of...

00:11:56.000 I think she would also be giving more political appearances and would be out there a little bit more.

00:12:00.000 And you would see reports in the New York Times where quietly behind the scenes, Michelle Obama, you know, their fundraising, like the fundraising chatter, I think you would see that around Michelle Obama, because they would get all excited about it.

00:12:15.000 And we wouldn't get these stories like, you know, super PACs freezing $90 million.

00:12:19.000 They would be on the back channel with them going, Hey, just stay patient.

00:12:23.000 You know, we have a plan.

00:12:25.000 You know, we've got Michelle in our back pocket.

00:12:27.000 She's going to be excited.

00:12:28.000 But now is not the time to do it.

00:12:30.000 You know, we're gonna wait until the last minute in August, and then we'll make our push.

00:12:33.000 So just hang tight.

00:12:35.000 You know, I mean, Democrats are pretty good about communicating back channel and staying, you know, in lockstep.

00:12:41.000 So I think that's I think part of the appeal of Michelle Obama is that Kamala Harris is not good enough.

00:12:46.000 They had when they were running Joe Biden, they said, here is Joe Biden, but he will sort of be the last white man candidate and then we'll have a diverse lady president.

00:12:46.000 Right.

00:12:56.000 And they tapped Kamala Harris, I assume because she was just in the race already and had the face recognition.

00:13:00.000 But it's not that they.

00:13:03.000 Think that Kamala will succeed, that they think she should be on the tickets.

00:13:07.000 It's just that she's there.

00:13:08.000 And I think if they could swap in Michelle Obama, maybe they would do it again for the same sort of visual reasons.

00:13:13.000 But again, I think the big obstacle there is Michelle doesn't want to do it.

00:13:16.000 If you look further down ticket, I mean, they're not tapping AOC.

00:13:19.000 No one's throwing out anyone else.

00:13:21.000 They really don't know what to do here.

00:13:23.000 Well, I think the other thing is Kamala Harris is like the queen of oppo research, and she feels like she's owed this.

00:13:29.000 And so, you know, what you can see is like, if somebody is going to pull a coup on her, she's going to torpedo whoever is going to be the nominee, you know, back channel, she has her ways of just dumping dirt and You know, so she's probably doing the power politics thing of like holding some dirt and, you know, holding some things against the other candidates and very plugged into the DNC, making sure that her people are making it known that they're, you know, they're going to pull some shenanigans then while she's going to do the same thing right back to him.

00:13:57.000 Because this is her chance, her moment.

00:13:59.000 She is super ambitious.

00:14:00.000 Well, and if she thinks there's any chance Biden could win, it behooves her to be like, yes, you win, and then inevitably, one year into your term when you can't complete it, you bow out and I get to be the president.

00:14:10.000 I mean, I'm sure she's thinking pretty strategically here.

00:14:12.000 We got this from Newsweek.

00:14:13.000 Ted Cruz makes new Michelle Obama prediction.

00:14:16.000 They say Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas suggested that former First Lady Michelle Obama will replace Joe Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket in this year's presidential election.

00:14:24.000 During an interview on Fox Business with host Stuart Varney on Thursday, Cruz asserted that Democrats were freaking out about Biden being their candidate following his widely panned performance at last month's debate.

00:14:34.000 Biden has been under increasing pressure, blah blah blah, we know this.

00:14:37.000 And again, I'm looking at this from...

00:14:40.000 It's just Ted Cruz predicting this, but Barack is the one allegedly orchestrating this behind the scenes, which of course means Michelle has some involvement.

00:14:47.000 Newsweek also reported two days ago, Michelle Obama fans beg her to replace Joe Biden, save our country.

00:14:54.000 Obama, whose husband is former President Barack Obama, has never run for public office or expressed an interest in becoming president, but there has been frequent speculation.

00:15:05.000 However, back in March, Michelle Obama's office says the former lady will not be running for president in 2024.

00:15:11.000 Some of this does smell like manufactured consent to me.

00:15:13.000 I mean, the people that they're citing in that Newsweek article is, all these Facebook comments say they want Michelle Obama to be president.

00:15:19.000 I mean, yes, congratulations on writing your letter to Santa, but you're writing that these are the mouthpieces of the regime, so this also could be planting the seed ahead of a Biden being deposed.

00:15:29.000 But you mean this is like they are prepping the public to accept Michelle Obama?

00:15:33.000 It could be possible.

00:15:34.000 Yes.

00:15:35.000 Michelle, like, wears the pants in that relationship.

00:15:37.000 At least the vibe I get, I always have.

00:15:38.000 Agreed.

00:15:39.000 The way Barack talks about her.

00:15:41.000 She is a kingmaker.

00:15:42.000 She never wanted to be on stage.

00:15:45.000 She's there to push her man to the top, and now she wants to go sail off into the sunset.

00:15:45.000 Not really.

00:15:50.000 And Barack probably went, like, Michelle, you want to— Nope.

00:15:52.000 She's like, nope.

00:15:53.000 And he's like, okay.

00:15:55.000 Maybe, I don't know.

00:15:56.000 The only public statements we have is that she will not be running in 2024.

00:16:02.000 Everyone says that.

00:16:04.000 Every candidate says it every time, and there's legal reasons why they do, because if they announce that they are, then it restricts them.

00:16:09.000 I suppose she could have said, I'm considering it.

00:16:13.000 I think, however, the only reason we got this story back in March was that they were trying to ice out RFK Jr., and so they were effectively saying, no, no, we're all behind Joe Biden, he's the best.

00:16:23.000 Now that they've effectively shut down the primaries, and it's going to go to a secret ballot where there's no way an insurgent candidate can win, now they can go, well, everyone's been yelling for me to do it, and for this country I will.

00:16:38.000 Well, I think it's a little perfect, and I think that's the fear that a lot of Trump supporters have, is that Michelle Obama will just infuse that energy into the Democratic base the way Barack did.

00:16:49.000 I would be more readily sold on this scenario if I would have read a lot of Lady Macbeth sort of behind-the-scenes stories about Michelle Obama in the White House, that she's actually the mastermind behind it all.

00:17:03.000 I mean, you maybe say that about Casey DeSantis, but I don't know about, you know, Michelle Obama.

00:17:08.000 So it's a hard sell for me, but it is kind of a perfect marriage.

00:17:13.000 And I think there are a lot of people throwing out their names right now to be like, oh, well, of course I support Joe.

00:17:18.000 But, you know, if all the Facebook comments say they want me to run, I'll do it.

00:17:21.000 I mean, Gavin Newsom's wife had a big profile in the L.A.

00:17:25.000 Times almost two years ago at this point.

00:17:27.000 A lot of people are sort of starting to test the waters to see what the next move in their political future is.

00:17:32.000 But again, that's why I feel like Michelle is happy with her mojitos and her yachts, right?

00:17:36.000 She doesn't need it the way that some people who are still trying to climb the power ladder do.

00:17:40.000 She also got snubbed pretty hard by the sugar industry.

00:17:43.000 When they got into power, the Obamas, she did this Let's Move campaign and it was about cutting sugar out of your diet.

00:17:48.000 And then the sugar industry got involved and they're like, no, no, no, we're going to make it an exercise campaign.

00:17:52.000 Forget about the sugar.

00:17:53.000 Let's just dance and stuff.

00:17:54.000 Don't talk about your diet!

00:17:55.000 And Katie Couric did a documentary on it called Fed Up, which I highly recommend.

00:18:00.000 Fascinating.

00:18:01.000 And you see the behind-the-scenes power of the sugar industry.

00:18:03.000 And after that, Michelle kind of backed out of politics.

00:18:06.000 I think she realized what she was up against and was like, we're in for eight years and then we're done.

00:18:12.000 I'm not doing that again.

00:18:13.000 I'm not putting myself through that.

00:18:14.000 I'm not putting my family through that.

00:18:16.000 I can see that because she seems like a relatively wholesome...

00:18:19.000 Woman, like, from the outside and watching them.

00:18:21.000 I mean, all of them marrying a man who kills American citizens abroad.

00:18:26.000 But like, I know that was pretty horrible.

00:18:27.000 They were married before he did that.

00:18:28.000 Getting that job is like... That's such a thing as detecting red flags, ladies and gentlemen.

00:18:32.000 Like getting thrust into the become the commander in chief of the military industrial complex is like, who are you not?

00:18:37.000 You get to decide who am I not going to kill?

00:18:38.000 It's a choice.

00:18:40.000 Kind of, until they slide Kennedy's picture across the table at you and they're like, choose wisely.

00:18:44.000 It's a choice.

00:18:45.000 As he's coming out and saying, I would have had a son like Trayvon and supporting BLM.

00:18:49.000 The Obama family are moral write-offs.

00:18:52.000 I think it's not whether or not she has the unimpeachable character to run and take this opportunity, it's whether or not it's the right time for her, and whether or not she's just comfortable enough dictating books and going kayaking.

00:19:03.000 I just, I love the idea of going, well Barack Obama did murder a 16-year-old American, but Michelle's the good one.

00:19:10.000 So we'll vote.

00:19:11.000 Yeah, come on, come on.

00:19:12.000 She sits down with him at night and she's like, how did it feel to kill that 16-year-old kid?

00:19:17.000 Felt pretty good.

00:19:18.000 She's like, okay.

00:19:19.000 I was thinking about you, actually, because we were talking about, you're like, what would I do if I was the president?

00:19:19.000 You get that job.

00:19:23.000 And like, I'm not going to do it.

00:19:24.000 And they're like, oh no, well, if you don't do it, a lot of people are going to die and a lot of things are going to break down.

00:19:29.000 So you're really going to have to go with this.

00:19:30.000 It's been happening every day before you got here.

00:19:32.000 Now that you're here, push the button, sign the paperwork, because we got to make it happen.

00:19:35.000 You're like, no, I'm not going to do it.

00:19:37.000 Okay, let me tell you this again.

00:19:39.000 A lot of people are gonna die, and a lot of people are gonna lose money if you don't.

00:19:42.000 Now, we need you to do this now.

00:19:44.000 And you say, I'm not.

00:19:45.000 Then they slide the picture of Kennedy across the table.

00:19:47.000 And then if you say, I'm not, they'll say, we'll see you later.

00:19:50.000 And you'll probably never see those guys.

00:19:51.000 I sure will.

00:19:51.000 And that's why I said, My scenario is one day, and I say this jokingly, I run for president and then I build a 15-inch triple-layered bulletproof plexiglass box in the center of DC where I will live with minimal privacy, but just enough privacy because people don't want to see that stuff.

00:20:07.000 And then I will just start signing executive actions and firing everybody and dismantling administrative bureaucracy.

00:20:14.000 And then once I'm done after two weeks, I resign.

00:20:17.000 And then so count your VP debates, because I don't care.

00:20:22.000 I honestly think you'd have to leave the country.

00:20:24.000 To run this country in that state, to be like that anti-establishment, you would have to flee.

00:20:28.000 Because they got you where they want you if you're in DC.

00:20:30.000 15-foot concrete slab, straight down.

00:20:34.000 Someone's got to bring you food.

00:20:35.000 That's right.

00:20:35.000 They know where you live.

00:20:36.000 They know who's making your food.

00:20:38.000 It's tough not to sign the paperwork to drop the drones in that position, because that's what the machine does.

00:20:47.000 So I don't put too much hate on the guys when they do those things.

00:20:51.000 You look at what happens to Donald Trump when he says, I'm the boss, we're going to do it my way.

00:20:55.000 They say, well, then you're a Russian spy.

00:20:58.000 Maybe you'll go to prison.

00:21:00.000 And Trump's basically like, I am going to destroy you.

00:21:04.000 I hope he gets rid of the bureaucracy and does these things.

00:21:07.000 I'm not super confident.

00:21:08.000 Have you seen all the hysterics that are going on because he had Orban come see him in Mar-a-Lago?

00:21:12.000 And they're like, but Orban just met with Putin, and so therefore Trump is a horrible Russian supporter, or like whatever it is.

00:21:18.000 Biden just met with Putin.

00:21:19.000 I mean, Zelensky.

00:21:20.000 Oh, right.

00:21:21.000 It's so confusing when we have Vice President Trump.

00:21:23.000 And also, like, how else are you meant to draw a conclusion to the war?

00:21:26.000 Oh, of course they don't want to because their military contractors are getting a very nice kickback.

00:21:29.000 And that was your guys' fault.

00:21:31.000 That was Boris Johnson's fault.

00:21:32.000 On the directive of the State Department, because again, we are a vassal state of the global American empire.

00:21:37.000 I don't want to agree, but I do like the sound of that, so I'll accept it.

00:21:39.000 You think it's an American empire?

00:21:41.000 I think a lot about this.

00:21:42.000 Yeah, I know.

00:21:45.000 Because Five Eyes is New Zealand, Australia, the Kingdom of Canada, the Kingdom of Australia, the Kingdom of England, and the United States.

00:21:53.000 They're not kingdoms.

00:21:54.000 They are kingdoms.

00:21:55.000 Look up Kingdom of Australia.

00:21:56.000 I'm aware, I'm aware.

00:21:57.000 So in those countries, the monarch is only a figurehead and he has no executive power.

00:22:01.000 He can authorize the Executive General, what is it?

00:22:05.000 He can't intervene and fire the Prime Minister.

00:22:08.000 It's only in Britain.

00:22:11.000 The Secretary General, what's that role, the guy, the General, something General, that can fire the Prime Minister at any moment?

00:22:17.000 They actually did that in the 70s in Australia, they fired the Prime Minister because he wouldn't play ball.

00:22:21.000 I don't think that's possible anymore because of constitutional reforms.

00:22:23.000 I mean, if you look on the Canadian government's constitution, they only ever say that King Charles is a figurehead, and yes, he's on the money, but he can't actually intervene in our processes of government.

00:22:32.000 That's only possible in the UK when it's His Majesty's government.

00:22:34.000 You have to go and actively form the government at the behest of the King.

00:22:37.000 Governor-General of Canada- The King appoints the Governor-General.

00:22:40.000 And then the Governor-General can dismiss the Prime Minister.

00:22:40.000 Can dismiss the Prime Minister.

00:22:43.000 The Governor-General of Canada represents the monarch, but the process must follow Canadian constitutional conventions.

00:22:48.000 At least that's what... So the King of Canada is Charles.

00:22:50.000 He's the emperor of England, of Australia, of Canada.

00:22:54.000 And I wonder who's really running... I don't think he's running a show.

00:22:56.000 I just think it's the spy clubs like MI6 and CIA.

00:22:58.000 You're not wrong about the Five Eyes, but I don't think the Five Eyes have interests directly connected with the monarch.

00:23:04.000 Or I don't think at least he's sitting there, like, dictating it all all the time.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, I don't either.

00:23:07.000 It's like we're at this stage in Rome where it's basically the Praetorian Guards running the show.

00:23:11.000 Yes, yeah, that's far more accurate, I'd say.

00:23:13.000 But it does feel like an empire, and I wonder who that Praetorian Guard is at the moment.

00:23:16.000 I do think it's the global American empire, because we take our lead a lot of it from the State Department and from what the Pentagon says, and mainly because the fusillades trap of post-war America and Britain, the Marshall Plan meant that the British Empire was contingent on American loans to rebuild itself at home, and so it just Sliced off sections of the empire to give to America.

00:23:37.000 This is why the Suez Crisis happened, this is why the State of Israel was set up, and the Britain abandoned their mandate over Palestine.

00:23:43.000 The Americans just nicked a lot of the power.

00:23:45.000 Can I just point out, the United States has military bases in the UK.

00:23:49.000 Yes.

00:23:49.000 Because they're a vassal state of the United States.

00:23:51.000 Germany and Japan and Australia, they've got, what is it, Pine Gap in the middle of Australia?

00:23:56.000 It's the second, it's the largest military base outside the US?

00:23:58.000 We Americans have occupied Germany and Japan since World War II.

00:24:02.000 We've never left.

00:24:03.000 But it's like our military.

00:24:04.000 Who runs that?

00:24:05.000 This military industrial complex?

00:24:07.000 Who's funding it?

00:24:08.000 Is it the Americans?

00:24:09.000 Is it us?

00:24:09.000 Is it international?

00:24:11.000 I mean, well, us.

00:24:13.000 Define us.

00:24:15.000 Exactly.

00:24:15.000 Is it the American people?

00:24:16.000 I mean, not really.

00:24:18.000 But it is.

00:24:19.000 The United States has used it as a mechanism for management of the system.

00:24:24.000 So anyway, okay, so I agree with that.

00:24:27.000 I don't want to derail or move away.

00:24:27.000 I agree with that.

00:24:29.000 The reason I brought it up was because I'm just, I'm wondering who's calling these shots?

00:24:33.000 You guys, you feel like it's more of an American authority than an imperial British authority?

00:24:38.000 So I think even if you go back to like, you know, JFK era, like what you brought up earlier, the CIA complex and the NSA and the IC community, has expanded out to the point where they have a

00:24:52.000 surveillance apparatus, they dig up dirt on everybody, every politician, and whoever goes to DC, they

00:24:59.000 are either blackmailed or they become millionaires or they're bribed. So I think this regime

00:25:06.000 apparatus—they call it the deep state, I guess that's as good a name as any—essentially pulls

00:25:12.000 the levers through this kind of coercion, and through honey traps like Epstein, you know.

00:25:18.000 I think that all of this together, this nexus, is what's really behind the scenes.

00:25:23.000 So that's why I agree with what Vivek Ramaswamy said the other day, that Kamala Harris is not particularly bright, and Joe Biden's in cognitive decline, but it doesn't really matter.

00:25:34.000 And I would agree with him because it's the system.

00:25:37.000 We're all hung up about these different politicians, but they're all pretty much interchangeable.

00:25:43.000 They're just basically the people who they have dirt on that they can get to execute their will.

00:25:48.000 So like Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, there's a lot of evidence that there were CIA ops around him going to Burisma and getting on the board and making money that way.

00:25:59.000 That's how they get the blackmail on these politicians.

00:26:03.000 They offer them these sweet little deals.

00:26:07.000 It's a combination of bribery and blackmail.

00:26:09.000 That's why you see politicians, when they go there, a lot of times they either have the blackmail They bribe them, and in Donald Trump's case, if you don't do that, then they basically call you a Russian spy, like Tim said, or they politically prosecute you and they really go after you if they really think you're a threat to go after them.

00:26:33.000 You know, I think that's basically what's going on.

00:26:35.000 If you want me to name names, well, I still have a family, so I don't know.

00:26:40.000 There was that business plot, because I want to be like, 1941 is when Five Eyes got started, basically as a response to the Nazi Japanese incursion.

00:26:47.000 They're like, well, we need a global spy network or we're going to get destroyed.

00:26:50.000 But then before that, there was the business plot to overthrow the U.S.

00:26:53.000 government, where they wanted Smedley Butler to march on Washington with like 300,000 men.

00:26:57.000 And he refused.

00:26:58.000 World War One general was like, I'm not overthrowing the government.

00:27:00.000 I'm not going to sell a fascist dictatorship.

00:27:02.000 So they've been trying to control it since the Federal Reserve Act.

00:27:05.000 Right.

00:27:05.000 Well, yeah, you could go back to then, you know, the creature Jekyll Island and all of that business.

00:27:09.000 But I think, like, that's what happened to Nixon.

00:27:12.000 You know, like, Nixon found out about the JFK assassination, sat down with the Pentagon, says, I know what happened, you know, wanted to give the information to the American people, you know, and through that thing, they orchestrated a coup.

00:27:24.000 against Nixon with a two-bit break-in that seems almost laughable in comparison to the scandals that we've seen since the Obama administration.

00:27:32.000 Well, here's the interesting thing, right?

00:27:34.000 You go back in time, and Nixon may be thinking, well, what can I do to get this information out?

00:27:42.000 And it's limited because we know that there's intelligence assets deeply embedded in media.

00:27:47.000 Along comes Donald Trump several decades later, and he's on Twitter.

00:27:52.000 Twitter has a backdoor for intelligence agencies.

00:27:57.000 Was it weekly communication?

00:27:59.000 The people, the high-ups at Twitter were communicating with… Twitter files, right.

00:28:03.000 Still though, Donald Trump could tweet whatever he wanted and force the media to report whatever he wanted.

00:28:09.000 So he splits the news.

00:28:11.000 You now have the corporate press telling everyone he's a spy, he's a Russian asset, but it wasn't working because independent media was cutting through the noise.

00:28:19.000 They tried to manipulate the game, they tried to control Facebook and Twitter, they did a great job of it, but it wasn't enough to suppress because the internet is too powerful.

00:28:27.000 They'll try and say whatever they want.

00:28:29.000 The thing now that Trump has that past presidents didn't have is a direct channel for mass media, especially now with True Social.

00:28:36.000 This is why I think we're seeing the bifurcation, the fracturing, and the instability in politics.

00:28:41.000 One of the reasons.

00:28:42.000 Operation Mockingbird, when the CIA was like, we're gonna control the media, that was in the 60s or 70s or something, and they succeeded until post 9-11, until the internet kicked into full swing, and now some rando can go out there with, I got the documents, and they can like, show you the documents, and boy does that change the narrative.

00:28:58.000 And they'll say it's a cheap fake.

00:28:59.000 And our internet is just a creature of DARPA and a lot of these other defense industries.

00:29:03.000 They developed it.

00:29:05.000 So they saw it coming.

00:29:05.000 It's their baby.

00:29:06.000 So they must have known the potential for someone like Donald Trump or Alex Jones or me or someone to display the data to the humans through the will of whatever else was trying to stop it.

00:29:16.000 So they must have seen it coming, unless they're that short-sighted and they didn't realize.

00:29:19.000 Well, it's very interesting because I was a director of viral media.

00:29:22.000 I was like the forefront of this very powerful sort of digital operation when I was a media group of America, and we were right there before Trump got elected the first time in 2016, and we were a powerhouse.

00:29:34.000 Our readership was overtaking these established You know, big time.

00:29:39.000 Like, forget NBC News.

00:29:40.000 They were like small fries.

00:29:41.000 Like, we blew past all of them.

00:29:44.000 And it wasn't long after Trump was elected, that's when they started the crackdown.

00:29:48.000 It's kind of the O.S.

00:29:50.000 Blank moment, you know, where they just like, oh, no, we can't let this happen.

00:29:53.000 So I find it very fascinating, the news that Tim alluded to at the top of the show, where Mehta says, well, we're going to stop, you know, I'm paraphrasing, committing election interference.

00:30:01.000 And we're going to take the throttle.

00:30:03.000 You know, we're going to, you know, restore this, Mehta, his Instagram and Facebook accounts.

00:30:08.000 You know, we'll see how suppressed he is and see how that plays out in the next couple of weeks.

00:30:13.000 But, you know, still, and of course, Elon Musk making that, for me, astounding news where the European Commission released that, you know, Twitter at this point is not in compliance with the DSA, you know, and it has a number of violations, and that Elon said, well, they went to every other very large social media platform, and they all agreed, like, we will suppress and censor Uh, you know, I'm assuming political dissidents are people who don't follow state narratives or, uh, you know, the, the narratives on Ukraine or, you know, all of these other things, you know?

00:30:47.000 Uh, and, and Elon said, well, we're the only one who didn't, that stood up to them.

00:30:53.000 Uh, so I, you know.

00:30:55.000 It's interesting to see him also, like, throwing money behind Donald Trump's PAC.

00:30:59.000 Oh, Elon is?

00:31:00.000 How much money did he throw?

00:31:00.000 Yeah.

00:31:01.000 I didn't see the details.

00:31:02.000 Let's roll.

00:31:02.000 We got the story from Bloomberg.

00:31:03.000 All right.

00:31:04.000 Elon Musk donates to Trump, tapping vast fortune to swing the 2024 race.

00:31:09.000 And I'm going to pause before we get into that because we don't know.

00:31:12.000 My understanding is we don't know the full number, but we'll see if they've updated the source material.

00:31:17.000 It may not be a substantial sum, but we'll see.

00:31:20.000 And apparently Bloomberg is not going to let us see.

00:31:23.000 Well something interesting this week... We'll get a better source on that one.

00:31:25.000 At NatCon we were discussing something about this.

00:31:28.000 People were scratching their heads as to why the IVF and abortion pillars have been softened in the Republican Party platform and I suggested that it might be to court these new Silicon Valley tech bro pronatalist types like Peter Thiel, like Simone and Malcolm Collins and like Elon Musk who are very big on this stuff as something as a solution to the population crisis.

00:31:47.000 So the Trump campaign There's a new thing called Anglo-futurism, which is essentially like using technology to be progressively right-wing.

00:31:55.000 I have my misgivings with it.

00:31:57.000 Elon Musk is one of these guys, and so I wonder if certain things were changed in the platform to attract his support.

00:32:04.000 What we know is that Bloomberg said it was a sizable amount, and that's it.

00:32:09.000 And that Elon Musk didn't want to donate directly to a campaign.

00:32:12.000 Well, why would he?

00:32:13.000 He's going to give what?

00:32:15.000 2300 bucks or something?

00:32:16.000 You want to make a real impact, you go SuperPAC.

00:32:19.000 I can understand why Elon Musk wants to see Trump win now, especially considering Elon has been reading and watching the news to the point where he realizes the media's been lying to everybody.

00:32:29.000 And it's really fascinating if you look at Elon's journey, being on Twitter, enjoying himself, looking at memes, laughing, to the point where he bought the platform, and now he's outright like, these people have been lying, they're evil.

00:32:41.000 And I'll tell you this, I would make a, let's call it a sizable gentleman's bet, which is, I'm not really saying money, but that Elon Musk knows things about what Twitter was doing behind the scenes that he can't publicly disclose that would probably make you crap your pants.

00:32:56.000 And so he's behind the scenes, he's looking at national security information with Twitter, and they're saying, you cannot release that.

00:33:04.000 That is, you know, what the Deep State does is they issue what's called the National Security Letter.

00:33:10.000 They did this to an email provider that I believe Snowden was using, and I always forget the name of this company.

00:33:17.000 They went to them and said, here's a national security letter.

00:33:20.000 You must give us information on these users, and you can't tell anyone.

00:33:24.000 So instead, he said, I'm shutting my company down.

00:33:27.000 Screw you.

00:33:28.000 I'm willing to bet Elon Musk dug a ton of that stuff up, and they said, Or I'll put it this way, the reason why they only release certain emails at a time is because of national security restrictions they have on that information.

00:33:41.000 That makes sense.

00:33:42.000 What kind of stuff do you think, when you're thinking national security risks, like what kind of data?

00:33:46.000 They're lying.

00:33:47.000 You're just calling it national security risks.

00:33:47.000 They're outright.

00:33:48.000 Absolutely.

00:33:49.000 But it's like names and phone numbers and addresses.

00:33:51.000 Not even necessarily.

00:33:52.000 Not even necessarily.

00:33:54.000 They might come to him and say, the fact that we run a program where we talk to companies is a national security endeavor you cannot expose.

00:34:01.000 Yeah, they can define national security extremely broadly to their own benefit, and they actually don't have to justify it to you.

00:34:06.000 I mean, this is what you see a lot of, like, government intervention.

00:34:09.000 It's like, subpoena, or you're under investigation, or you have to do this thing, and we never really have to explain to you why.

00:34:14.000 And actually, it's very difficult for you to resist or fight us.

00:34:17.000 I mean, Elon Musk is sort of a different case because he is so wealthy, but for most people in most organizations, you can't battle the federal government indefinitely because they can just spend taxpayers' money until they decide not to.

00:34:27.000 Yeah, I think it's smart for him to have an ace in the hole of some of the backdoor NSA stuff that they obviously pull with these social media companies.

00:34:35.000 So, you know, he's got multiple reasons for not just dumping that in the Twitter files.

00:34:41.000 Oh, you think him holding the info actually helps?

00:34:43.000 Yeah, well, that's what a smart person would do.

00:34:45.000 Well, it depends.

00:34:46.000 You hold info.

00:34:48.000 It depends on the info.

00:34:49.000 The worst info.

00:34:50.000 Yeah, it depends on the nature of course.

00:34:52.000 I mean, and that's always the big challenge.

00:34:55.000 You know, I'd like to see all of it be released immediately and let 4chan go at it and just rip through everything, decentralized network of investigation.

00:35:07.000 But I don't know what's in it.

00:35:09.000 There could be stuff in there that I don't know.

00:35:12.000 You don't know what you don't know.

00:35:14.000 Well, Musk has been hammered with lawsuits and, of course, the Delaware judgment.

00:35:18.000 It worked out for him in the end, but withholding the golden parachute, the bonus that he got from his shareholders, that was just the tip of the iceberg, I think.

00:35:30.000 He's being hammered left and right.

00:35:31.000 He was complaining about it today, the SEC going after him.

00:35:36.000 You know, so I think he has got a lot of interest to back Trump to see a fair bureaucracy that isn't so weaponized and politicized to protect free speech and political dissidence.

00:35:46.000 You know, I don't think he's a hardcore right-wing guy at all.

00:35:50.000 I think like deep down he just wants to see balance a good business environment and wants to achieve his dreams in the tech sector.

00:35:57.000 So I think this is just all a calculation, you know, it doesn't make him a MAGA guy at all.

00:36:03.000 It's just a smart political bet.

00:36:05.000 The headwinds are going his way.

00:36:07.000 Yeah, I would never have classified him as a capital R Republican or traditional conservative or anything like that.

00:36:15.000 He may have some values that fall in line, but for the most part, his worldview is different than maybe the run-of-the-mill evangelical voter in the U.S.

00:36:24.000 Well, certainly, because the run-of-the-mill evangelical voter sticks around and braces their own kids.

00:36:28.000 You don't like his many families?

00:36:31.000 He's up to at least 12, and I suspect more.

00:36:33.000 His many families, some of them don't seem to like him, because they don't want to communicate with him.

00:36:36.000 Look, I enjoy Musk's antics on Twitter.

00:36:39.000 One of the things I think might also be pushing him towards Trump is looking at the international

00:36:42.000 legislative environment.

00:36:43.000 ADF International, which is a sort of Christian law firm, they're currently pursuing two cases

00:36:48.000 involving Twitter.

00:36:49.000 One on behalf of Billboard Chris, who's been on this show before.

00:36:52.000 The Australian High Commission, I think it is, is going after him because he criticised

00:36:55.000 a trans activist who's on their transgender healthcare board by accurately using the pronouns

00:37:01.000 for the biological sex of the person, and this was on Twitter.

00:37:04.000 And then also Michael Schellenberg are involved in the Twitter files, one of the journalists

00:37:08.000 releasing it, is being hounded by the Brazilian High Court.

00:37:11.000 They're trying to criminally prosecute him to ensure that he never sets foot in the country

00:37:15.000 again.

00:37:16.000 And I think Musk is looking at these people that he either follows or are in his inner

00:37:19.000 circle and are thinking, if I can at least make one strong foothold for legal free speech

00:37:24.000 in the Western world and I make it the nominal leader of the free world, I'm going to be

00:37:28.000 I might as well Throw everything I can at it to help.

00:37:31.000 Yeah.

00:37:31.000 He'll also be like, he's pretty observant and aware and like flexible and like, he'll be like, well, I can't vote for Biden.

00:37:38.000 And the Democrats told me that he's the candidate.

00:37:40.000 So I'm going full against him.

00:37:42.000 Like, sorry.

00:37:43.000 It's not that I love Trump.

00:37:44.000 I'm not, I'm not letting that guy become president.

00:37:47.000 Pulling a, pulling a fast one on them.

00:37:48.000 That's what they did in 2020.

00:37:50.000 The Biden administration has demonized him to a certain extent, you know, and a lot of progressive activists.

00:37:55.000 I mean, as soon as he was like, hey, I think free speech is a good thing.

00:37:57.000 They were like, you're the worst person we've ever met.

00:38:00.000 Even though, again, I'm not sure he is that divided with them on every policy out there.

00:38:04.000 Not that I have any insider knowledge, but there is a level of he did things that made the wrong people happy.

00:38:10.000 And so therefore, you know, the other side of the aisle is pretty irritated with him.

00:38:15.000 I don't know that he could win them back over.

00:38:17.000 And even does he even want to at this point?

00:38:20.000 Yeah, I think the stunt that they pulled in Delaware made him flip it on a little bit strong.

00:38:27.000 Well, he was owed, the exact number, was it $58 billion?

00:38:30.000 He was owed like tens of billions of dollars in his shareholder agreement that they voted for and approved.

00:38:36.000 And the judge nullified it.

00:38:38.000 Whoa, when?

00:38:39.000 But then the shareholders again convened and greenlighted it.

00:38:42.000 And I was one of them.

00:38:43.000 I voted to reinstate his pay package.

00:38:45.000 It's absolutely insane.

00:38:47.000 When I saw Tesla was at like 300 a while ago, Elon Musk buys Twitter.

00:38:52.000 He starts getting political.

00:38:53.000 The price goes down.

00:38:54.000 I'm thinking like Tesla shares are undervalued.

00:38:56.000 If people are really selling because they don't like what he's saying, that's an absurdity.

00:38:59.000 So I bought and it went way up.

00:39:02.000 And then when I saw that some dude had sued saying Elon doesn't deserve to get paid the billions for running what is like the name brand electric car company.

00:39:11.000 Especially when you have all these Democrats screaming we should have EVs and they hate the guy which makes no sense.

00:39:15.000 I was pissed.

00:39:16.000 His pay gets slashed by a judge who has nothing to do with the company even though they agreed.

00:39:21.000 So this is the most infuriating thing about the whole ordeal.

00:39:26.000 This one guy with a small amount of shares decided for the entirety of the company and all shareholders that the CEO shouldn't get paid.

00:39:34.000 That's psychotic.

00:39:36.000 And I'm thinking, you take away the incentive from the guy leading the charge and running the show, you're gonna lose money.

00:39:42.000 Well, they moved to Texas, they're changing it, he's getting his pay, and I'm glad to see it.

00:39:46.000 Oh, that's what sparked the move.

00:39:47.000 I see.

00:39:48.000 Now I'm understanding.

00:39:50.000 Yep.

00:39:51.000 But you know, to be fair, these companies, they register in Delaware.

00:39:56.000 They incorporate in Delaware because... Zero tax.

00:39:58.000 And it's also connected to the Bidens.

00:40:00.000 The judges circuit, they're connected to the Bidens, you know.

00:40:03.000 They have influence through different channels.

00:40:06.000 They also have this...

00:40:08.000 They have this trust thing they do.

00:40:10.000 I'm not exactly sure how it works, but if the trust makes money, it doesn't get taxed.

00:40:15.000 So basically, rich people will put their assets in some kind of new trust that Delaware has.

00:40:19.000 They pay a fee where it's like five grand a year to maintain the trust.

00:40:23.000 And then when the trust makes investments and those investments accrue profit, there's no one to tax.

00:40:30.000 It's held by an entity with no individual.

00:40:33.000 So, right.

00:40:34.000 All right.

00:40:35.000 Very, very, like, everybody's trying to find a way to play the game, you know what I mean?

00:40:40.000 And then New York has spoiled its own, you know, backyard as well.

00:40:44.000 You know, you don't want to do business there with the way the Manhattan trial went down.

00:40:49.000 I was incorporated in New York and it's been a nightmare.

00:40:52.000 No, it's a terrible, terrible place to be incorporated.

00:40:54.000 I pulled out and just dissolved it and reincorporated in Texas and, you know, it's probably the smartest place.

00:40:58.000 Why Texas?

00:40:59.000 You know, Texas is fairly protective of free speech in the media.

00:41:03.000 It's kind of a hassle for, you know, torts and certain types of litigation, you know, to, you know, not like New York.

00:41:09.000 It's New York is, you know, it's New York.

00:41:12.000 You mentioned that Delaware stuff was connected to the Bidens.

00:41:15.000 Yeah, Hunter has said something that he knew judges before, you know, like it that's if you go through and search through like Marco Polo and read the emails and stuff and like Hunter's like, well, I know the judges in Delaware, you know, it's like, okay.

00:41:15.000 I know he was a senator.

00:41:28.000 And that's where they're from?

00:41:29.000 Is that Biden's home state?

00:41:31.000 Delaware Senator?

00:41:32.000 Is that what it was for a long time?

00:41:33.000 Yeah.

00:41:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:34.000 He's probably super connected.

00:41:35.000 They're super connected.

00:41:36.000 Beau, the late son of Joe Biden, was the attorney general from Delaware, if I'm not remembering.

00:41:41.000 And at one point, he was going to run for governor.

00:41:44.000 Like, then he got really sick and they didn't talk about it and they wouldn't confirm if he was still running.

00:41:48.000 Because he was also someone who had a health crisis because he had brain cancer that they kind of kept quiet for a long time.

00:41:55.000 They didn't reveal how serious it was until, you know, extremely late in the game.

00:41:59.000 Now I can almost understand, you know, he had very young children and things like that.

00:42:03.000 It is definitely a place that the Bidens have deep root and connections.

00:42:07.000 Right.

00:42:07.000 There's nepotism there.

00:42:11.000 I was telling you about it before the show where I hung out with Obama.

00:42:11.000 I had that dream.

00:42:14.000 I was like at the White House and I was like, Hey man, and let's, and he was like, yeah, let's get some lunch.

00:42:17.000 So we were sitting, I was like, so what happened to you?

00:42:18.000 You were so idealistic.

00:42:19.000 You got in and then you like became deep state.

00:42:21.000 He's like, Oh, it was Joe and Jim's Jim.

00:42:21.000 What happened?

00:42:23.000 And I was like, I didn't know who he, I knew Joe.

00:42:26.000 I was like, Oh, that's Joe Biden.

00:42:27.000 And the other word, James, he said, I was like, I don't know who it was.

00:42:29.000 And it sounded in memory.

00:42:31.000 Like he said, James, I was like, Oh, that's Joe's bro.

00:42:33.000 That's Joe's brother, James Biden.

00:42:35.000 So I was like, did he get in and Joe just like introduced him to all the dudes, all the guys that know what's what.

00:42:42.000 I think it was Biden.

00:42:45.000 I just love the scenario where Ian had a dream.

00:42:48.000 That's why I never mentioned it before.

00:42:48.000 So it must be real.

00:42:52.000 So I'd like to point out.

00:42:53.000 And then Michelle walked in and I thought it was Kamala.

00:42:54.000 It was crazy dream.

00:42:56.000 So I'd like to point this out.

00:42:57.000 Back in Illinois, when Barack Obama won the Senate seat, One of the first things he's asked.

00:43:04.000 It's his first foray into national politics.

00:43:06.000 He has just won.

00:43:07.000 He's not served a day in office and they said, will you run for president?

00:43:10.000 I was like, huh?

00:43:13.000 Why would you ask him that?

00:43:13.000 Why?

00:43:14.000 He's just some guy who just got elected.

00:43:16.000 And then he did.

00:43:16.000 He didn't even finish his first term.

00:43:19.000 As far as I understand, right, he got elected in 2004 to the Senate, and then decided to run for president, and then was just absent.

00:43:26.000 Like two years later, yeah.

00:43:27.000 Right.

00:43:28.000 And then Blagojevich was accused of trying to sell his Senate seat, but he says he was, that's what everyone did, and I can't remember exactly how it was.

00:43:37.000 And who helped Blagojevich out, though?

00:43:39.000 Trump.

00:43:40.000 Yeah, and I saw Blagojevich at Mar-a-Lago.

00:43:42.000 He was down there.

00:43:42.000 Pardon him.

00:43:44.000 No, you know, Obama was made.

00:43:44.000 Hanging out with Trump.

00:43:47.000 He was a Chicago politics operator, knew Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorn and ran with the Democratic Socialists of America.

00:43:58.000 But then, you know, he did like a good Alinskyite and put on a suit, put on a tie.

00:44:01.000 He looked good.

00:44:02.000 He could speak well.

00:44:03.000 He was a nice contrast with George Bush, you know, which I think almost everyone was sick of by the time that administration was over.

00:44:12.000 And so I think that, you know, it goes back to what your point, like, who's really running the show?

00:44:17.000 Well, whoever made Barack Obama, Barack Obama is who's running the show.

00:44:22.000 And it's not Barack Obama because he didn't become president by himself.

00:44:25.000 He was anointed the Messiah and made and thrust in front of the media.

00:44:30.000 So that's when we talk about the media connections with Obama, you know, with George Clooney and all of this stuff, this nexus, this, you know, this network that they have.

00:44:39.000 this machine is how we can sort of glean Obama's backdoor influence.

00:44:47.000 So it used to be the Clintons until Obama appeared and they were like, oh, he's better

00:44:51.000 than, Bill's too old now, so he's a better one.

00:44:53.000 And Hillary was like, yo, but it's the Clintons.

00:44:55.000 Bill was a great retail politician, to be fair.

00:44:58.000 So I think Bill was, I believe, much more self-made than Barack was.

00:45:04.000 Bill was a very skilled political operator, and so was Hillary, obviously.

00:45:08.000 She's the Lady Macbeth, you know, behind the scenes, with Bill, a ruthless operator.

00:45:15.000 But You know, Bill, I believe, was a lot more self-made, you know, from his Arkansas governor days, and he worked his way up through the, you know, the Democratic machine with Hillary's help.

00:45:27.000 I think Barack kind of came out of nowhere.

00:45:29.000 It just doesn't happen.

00:45:30.000 You know, this kind of like little, you know, this Hollywood story around Barack Obama, that doesn't just happen in Democrat machine politics, so.

00:45:38.000 And those superdelegates who make the final say, like they've got all the change of rules.

00:45:42.000 It's the dream right now for Democrats to get rid of the primary process and have the political elites just choose who they want to be the president.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, it's very annoying to them that they have to listen to their own constituents.

00:45:52.000 It's frustrating almost.

00:45:53.000 Well, they lie to their constituents routinely.

00:45:56.000 And so when we see like, you know, interviews with black voters now and they said that they're voting for Trump, they're bewildered.

00:46:03.000 Understand this.

00:46:05.000 If Democrats are engaging in less than, let's just call them untoward voter practices, and Republicans can truly not win, and the Democrat primary is chosen in secret by political elites, we are North Korea.

00:46:20.000 Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.

00:46:22.000 Daily Show shocked when Focus group of black voters revealed they're voting for Trump.

00:46:27.000 Biden, you done dropped the ball, brother, said one female voter.

00:46:30.000 But I believe it was like split, right?

00:46:32.000 Yeah, it was half and half.

00:46:33.000 There were six on the panel and three said that they were voting for Trump.

00:46:37.000 And it was actually very amusing how they said that they were voting for Trump.

00:46:40.000 You know, it's like they didn't even want to admit it.

00:46:43.000 It was actually stunning.

00:46:45.000 Two women.

00:46:45.000 It was three and two women who predicted the black community would shift their support to Trump this election cycle on claims the Democratic Party and President Biden had left them behind.

00:46:54.000 Johnson chuckled and said, I didn't see that coming.

00:46:57.000 You know, they use the issues of African-American community as a soapbox to stand on and make promises just to get us to come out and vote.

00:47:02.000 And then once we vote and everyone's in place, it's like, well, what happened?

00:47:05.000 Said one of the female Trump supporters defending her vote.

00:47:08.000 Didn't Trump say, what have you got to lose?

00:47:08.000 It's true.

00:47:10.000 He was like, vote for me!

00:47:11.000 What do you got to lose?

00:47:12.000 I think at a certain point, Democrats think they can make promises, disappear for four years, come back four years later and say promises again.

00:47:19.000 And eventually people are going to be like, you're lying to me.

00:47:22.000 And the way Biden dangled Kamala Harris's skin color in front of people

00:47:27.000 as like a bait to get them to vote was like disgusting to any human with eyeballs in a

00:47:31.000 brain is like, yo, you can't like racist me by trying to like use my, it's so gross and

00:47:37.000 disgusting to do that. And I think these people are waking, obviously aware of that, like.

00:47:43.000 I don't know in how many numbers.

00:47:45.000 I think you're going to get a more sizable swing than you did last election.

00:47:49.000 There are many jokes about Trump having a mugshot and therefore being able to be identifiable to black men who have a narrative about being persecuted by the prison industrial complex.

00:47:57.000 Perhaps that is a factor.

00:47:59.000 The fact is, very few people generally are plugged into shows like this.

00:48:03.000 I'm glad more people are, but lots of people are.

00:48:06.000 Low information.

00:48:08.000 clientele class voters who are dependent on handouts and the Democrats are promising to buy them off then they will still vote for the Democrats.

00:48:15.000 The thing that might stop that is as you've seen in Chicago and in New York and all these so-called sanctuary states is a mass influx of illegals who are now competing with them in their local area for housing and food stamps and you're getting a lot of people just from the black community the local black community going to the local representatives and going hang on this money's for us this is our money so If the clientele classes start fighting, there might be a swing.

00:48:38.000 I just don't think it's going to be in a sizable enough number to give Trump a majority of the black vote.

00:48:42.000 I don't think he'll get a majority, but I do think the recognition that it's all lip service from the Democrats is extremely important and actually helps down-tick it.

00:48:51.000 I think that this is going to potentially pave the way for Republicans in districts that they are usually written off as like, oh, this is a Democratic stronghold, I'll never win this, to actually make a more convincing argument.

00:49:01.000 Because I think part of the issue is Democrats do say, oh no, we're with you.

00:49:05.000 You've gone through a lot and, you know, they say whatever they need to say and then they do forget the voters, especially voters of color who have voted for them.

00:49:12.000 But Republicans in that sense have also done a disservice because they say, oh, well, you're a minority voter so you're going to vote for Democrats.

00:49:18.000 They sort of also forget that they could potentially be more creative in their messaging.

00:49:22.000 Yeah, I think one of the ladies on the panel speaks to what you're saying.

00:49:24.000 I think she had a very powerful, you know, line about that, you know, every four years they pull out a soapbox and they stand on the soapbox and then they speak to the, you know, the black community about their problems.

00:49:34.000 And then when the election's over, you know, they put the soapbox away, forget about their promises.

00:49:38.000 You know, I think that kind of inroads that's sort of like planting the seeds of being open minded about alternatives to the Democratic Party is very powerful.

00:49:51.000 And, you know, I think, you know, Trump could get close to 20 percent and that may be all he needs in some of these swing states.

00:49:57.000 But I agree.

00:49:58.000 And it's not, it's not that big.

00:50:01.000 You always get this narrative where it's like, oh, he's gonna get it this time.

00:50:03.000 He's gonna go big.

00:50:03.000 Nah, you know, maybe improves a point or two or something like that.

00:50:07.000 But the analysis is that if he does break 20%, Democrats can't possibly win.

00:50:12.000 That's, that's what they claim.

00:50:13.000 I don't know if it's true.

00:50:13.000 But Wall Street Journal reported that.

00:50:15.000 You know, in certain swing states.

00:50:16.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:50:17.000 Yeah.

00:50:18.000 You know, Milwaukee.

00:50:19.000 I mean, he may be in within, you know, the margin of shenanigans in Milwaukee.

00:50:23.000 That's a good way to put it.

00:50:24.000 In Detroit.

00:50:25.000 Yeah, I'm being careful, you know.

00:50:28.000 You know, Detroit, Michigan, and, I'm sorry, Detroit and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, I think that, you know, you've seen some of the election law changes, and they're definitely laying the groundwork to, you know, pull a 2020 again.

00:50:42.000 It's more than that, too, and Republicans have no idea what's going on.

00:50:48.000 This is what the right always does.

00:50:49.000 They always react.

00:50:51.000 They only respond.

00:50:52.000 The Democrats will do things, and the Republicans are just desperately trying to chase after them.

00:50:56.000 I've been trying to demand the open source of the voting machines.

00:50:59.000 The code.

00:51:00.000 Because if you don't know what those things are flipping votes, it's just unusable.

00:51:04.000 Have you tried shaking your fist into the air?

00:51:05.000 I've tried!

00:51:06.000 I tried many times!

00:51:08.000 Open the source code!

00:51:10.000 What about a strongly worded letter?

00:51:11.000 I've been advocating that for a long time, Ian.

00:51:13.000 I really like that.

00:51:14.000 But I say that because there's not a single act of Congress that will do anything about it.

00:51:19.000 Perhaps at the state levels, you can vote in your local elections, so your state reps and your state senators can actually bring about these changes.

00:51:27.000 I recommend getting in touch with them.

00:51:31.000 You need a mass movement.

00:51:32.000 That populist energy, you know what I'll tell you the deep state loves?

00:51:37.000 They love that the populist uprising is for the presidency.

00:51:41.000 Because they can control everything else so long as the people ignore their local elections.

00:51:45.000 And occupy Wall Street.

00:51:46.000 That was like, they didn't like that one.

00:51:48.000 So I think a good example is, you know, we had the Georgia elections board this week had a number of election security experts go to them and persuaded them to look into 2020 again.

00:51:58.000 But more importantly, they voted for a hand count at the pre-select level that had to match the total ballots cast in the voting machines.

00:52:08.000 This is important because the voting machines, you know, the type that they use in Georgia, they draw from ballot images and they had, you know, essentially 17,000 and some odd missing ballot images.

00:52:21.000 So in other words, you cannot verify those votes.

00:52:24.000 And so Biden won by what we're told, like 12,000 votes or whatever.

00:52:27.000 You cannot prove it.

00:52:28.000 You cannot verify it.

00:52:29.000 I mean, yes, it's been certified, but it's not there where you have the evidence of

00:52:34.000 what actually took place.

00:52:36.000 So I think that's a good start.

00:52:37.000 It doesn't mean, you know, going to what you said, that you can't adjust the votes

00:52:42.000 within that because, you know, the tabulators can be hacked.

00:52:47.000 They proved this in front of the Georgia State Supreme Court.

00:52:51.000 A number of experts have gone and proven that.

00:52:56.000 And it's not even that difficult.

00:52:58.000 I mean, you can watch videos of people doing it.

00:53:00.000 They take the machine, they put it on the floor, and like, this is how you hack this.

00:53:04.000 They go into the back, and they just disassemble it, and it demystifies the problems with it.

00:53:12.000 So I do think that it's a good step in the right direction, but we need a lot more of it.

00:53:17.000 And Republican Party, we're told, with the new RNC regime that they put in place, that they were going to be all about election integrity.

00:53:25.000 Well, I see very little of it in reality that's going to be serious enough to stop.

00:53:31.000 You know, stop the ballot chicanery.

00:53:34.000 Do you think Republicans are ever intimidated to talk about election integrity because the response from the left is always like, oh, so you're going to question the results of the election?

00:53:42.000 Lawfare.

00:53:44.000 It's lawfare.

00:53:45.000 You know, we see Smartmatic's lawsuit is still ongoing against Fox News.

00:53:51.000 Fox News was, you know, capitulated and, you know, cut it with Dominion.

00:53:57.000 Uh, and I think that spooked a lot of people, you know, they, you know, they dragged people in front of show trials, you know, like with this, uh, you know, as part of that racketeering case, there were like three of the defendants were brought into because they, you know, did, did an unauthorized supposedly.

00:54:15.000 I say supposedly because there's withholding evidence, potentially, in that case, and the case wasn't tossed or anything.

00:54:24.000 But essentially, they had an unauthorized search of the equipment, and so you had Jenna Ellis in tears.

00:54:31.000 You had all of this stuff going on, and that's what's happening.

00:54:36.000 They are doing Soviet-style political show trials and lawfare to shut people up, and that tells me where there's smoke, there's fire.

00:54:44.000 Connor, do you feel the same type of pressure to have some sort of integrity process in UK elections?

00:54:50.000 Or do you feel like this is a uniquely American problem?

00:54:51.000 We don't have mass mail-in ballots because when we did, there was a massive amount of fraud in the UK.

00:54:55.000 I'm not, of course, suggesting that anything would happen in the US.

00:54:58.000 That would be terrible.

00:54:59.000 No, we've essentially prevented mass mail-in ballots.

00:55:03.000 You have to specifically request one by a certain window, and even then there's a small proportion of the votes.

00:55:07.000 I don't think we have voting machines.

00:55:09.000 I think we have hand counting, and I think So you don't have to deal with this code issue?

00:55:12.000 No, I don't think that's the same issue as well.

00:55:16.000 We also, as far as I know, we don't have primary processes either, so we don't even have the problem of superdelegates secretly signing things away as they're trying to circumvent that, even though we did have problems selecting a leader with the Conservative Party.

00:55:27.000 That's a whole other issue.

00:55:29.000 There's not really a Conversation about election integrity in the UK, it's more so, are people actually doing the things that they are given an electoral mandate to do?

00:55:38.000 And that is the answer that is given a justifiable no.

00:55:42.000 Explain how the Prime Minister is elected.

00:55:45.000 How do they come to be in power?

00:55:47.000 So the party and the members are meant to appoint a leader.

00:55:51.000 So I'm familiar with the Conservative Party.

00:55:53.000 If they don't coup the leader out, what happens is there is a leadership contest, maybe about five candidates.

00:55:58.000 They do debates, they do local hostings events where they'll get all the members in the room and they'll give speeches.

00:56:02.000 But just to clarify, the people do not vote for our Prime Minister?

00:56:06.000 Not directly, no.

00:56:07.000 There's no federal election for a prime minister.

00:56:09.000 You vote for a party and the prime minister has a constituency as well, so it's almost like he's running in a senate seat.

00:56:14.000 And so there is a bit of a difference, but how it would work now is that the democratic party would just vote amongst themselves, much like you vote for a party and then they choose who the prime minister is going to be.

00:56:25.000 Yeah, it's very similar to what happened with the electorate voted for Boris Johnson, he got removed, then the members voted for Liz Truss, she got removed, so they just installed Rishi Sunak.

00:56:35.000 So look to the UK as a precursor, I suppose.

00:56:38.000 You said the party and then the members?

00:56:40.000 What is the difference of the party and the members?

00:56:41.000 So the party is comprised of the MPs, so the elected representatives, and there's like a backroom committee for the Conservative Party called the 1922 committee that's made up of executive MPs and they're elected by other MPs and they have the power to call votes of no confidence in the Prime Minister, for example, and then the members are the ones that are registered, they're paying.

00:57:01.000 So like if you registered to vote as a Democrat or Republican, You get to vote in the the final two leadership election who will then be elected as either the leader of the party or eventually the prime minister if the party wins power.

00:57:12.000 Well as shocking as the the Labour Party's victory was in the recent elections I look at the French election as a as a version of the type of rigging you get in countries where there is some election integrity there because in France only the expats send the mail-in ballots in who are like the expats who are abroad and I think with the French elections You know, the way that they stymied National Rally and Marine Le Pen, that's where you see the globalists in the corporatists, the blob, as Mike Benz calls them.

00:57:45.000 That's a Michael Gove phrase, actually, the blob.

00:57:47.000 Oh, OK.

00:57:47.000 Thank you for pointing that out.

00:57:50.000 But you see the globalists behind the scenes.

00:57:54.000 The power brokers, where you have this, they call it the center-rightists from a French perspective.

00:57:59.000 You know, and the hard left, except for maybe, you know, like the communists, in sort of the very left-wing fringe, sort of make a deal with the devil and just to block Nasrallah.

00:58:09.000 It doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:58:10.000 But, you know, France is going to be in turmoil, and I think Macron is somewhat wounded, at least for the near term.

00:58:20.000 Like the next year.

00:58:21.000 So I think it's interesting, like the European politics, you do have some election integrity, but you do see your sort of backroom deals and, you know, conniving, just carried out in a different way.

00:58:31.000 Well, the UK and the French election is very different, because the French system is a proportional representation system, which inclines various small marginal parties to make coalitions to block the most popular party.

00:58:43.000 Also, in the UK, the Labour election wasn't surprising.

00:58:47.000 It was actually cheered on by right-wingers.

00:58:48.000 And the reason for that is the Conservative Party, having betrayed us, is standing in the way of an actual right-wing party.

00:58:53.000 And so they just thought, well, we'll rip the Band-Aid off, get rid of the Conservatives, and then get rid of Labour in five years.

00:58:58.000 But I think you're right in that Macron's gamble will not have paid off, because he's blocked Jordan Badala from being Prime Minister right now, but in 2027 when he's running for President, I think Le Pen sweeps it, because he hasn't given National Rally essentially a mandate to govern and be incapable of solving the problems which France is facing, and so all the onus is on him and all of the left-wing parties.

00:59:19.000 So they could run in opposition, build up momentum for the President.

00:59:22.000 To the entire establishment now.

00:59:23.000 Yeah, that's actually a good place for them to be in some ways.

00:59:26.000 It's not good for the French, but... If they gave Le Pen's party, what's it called, a national rally?

00:59:32.000 If they gave them the opportunity to, how did you phrase it, to actually fix things in the country?

00:59:37.000 To not be able to fix things.

00:59:38.000 So Macron's gamble was essentially that 28-year-old Jean Baudelaire, who's joined the party since he was 16 and has rocketed to the top, he's now number two in Le Pen's party.

00:59:46.000 Would have become prime minister if National Rally would have won this round of parliamentary elections, but Macron would have stayed president.

00:59:52.000 And so Macron's thinking, I'm deeply unpopular.

00:59:55.000 In 2027, I think he can run again, but it would be very unprecedented to get a third term.

01:00:00.000 He's thinking, I could have this massive insurgent right wing party get into government, And then I can just sit there and blame them, if they're in the parliament, for not dealing with economic problems, the pension crisis, the immigration crisis, all this sort of stuff, and then say, vote to put me and my party back in power, give me the mandate to govern, to give me stability.

01:00:19.000 The problem now is that National Rally didn't sweep it, and in desperation he made a pact with the communists, and now all of the left-wing parties are the governing body, and so it looks like all of the left-wing parties are going to be at fault, and so Marine Le Pen could win as president in 2027.

01:00:32.000 That's right.

01:00:32.000 Wow.

01:00:35.000 I think there is a lot of short-term thinking like that.

01:00:37.000 Some of the reporting that I heard around national rallies was really just panic and fear-mongering.

01:00:43.000 It reminds me so much of what happens in the U.S.

01:00:45.000 There's sort of a, I'll make a deal here and we just have to get through this one election.

01:00:49.000 But to what you're speaking to, there's no thought of how the long-term game could play out.

01:00:54.000 I mean, for all that we talk about, there are, you know, powers that work and there are things being – strings that are being pulled.

01:00:59.000 I actually think a lot of progressive causes are deeply emotional and therefore it causes decision-making.

01:01:04.000 Well, they're also full of stupid people as well.

01:01:05.000 Yes.

01:01:06.000 Lack of intelligence and high emotions.

01:01:07.000 Sometimes they go hand in hand.

01:01:08.000 The liberal economic orders lost it, whereas the Chinese are 100 years, they're planning hundreds of years in advance.

01:01:14.000 Is that real or is that just like a fallacy?

01:01:16.000 Like, is that actually true?

01:01:17.000 I was into your plan.

01:01:18.000 Have we poisoned our minds with phthalates and endocrine disruptors to the point where even the people that are running the show have no way to see past five years from now?

01:01:26.000 Yeah, we're running on dopamine.

01:01:28.000 And they're not?

01:01:28.000 That's right.

01:01:29.000 Like the Chinese eat enough rice and fish that they're like, yo, we're still here, we're still with it?

01:01:33.000 It's the grandchildren of the liberal economic order and wealth lasts three generations.

01:01:42.000 Man, it's... That's it?

01:01:44.000 I want to say that it's inevitable to fall.

01:01:46.000 It is inevitable to change.

01:01:47.000 They've been talking about the new world order since the 90s.

01:01:49.000 George Bush Sr.

01:01:50.000 mentioned, this world order is done.

01:01:51.000 We're transitioning to some new world order.

01:01:53.000 I don't know what it is.

01:01:54.000 Technocracy being run behind the scenes by God knows what and artificial intelligence at this point.

01:02:01.000 I don't know what they're going to do.

01:02:04.000 Well, the UK government is currently in the process of outsourcing GOV.UK, which is a central body that administers things like passports or student loans or visas or all those sorts of things to AI processors.

01:02:15.000 So they're already incorporating AI into the operations of the UK government.

01:02:18.000 Yeah, and I think Peter Thiel's moving and shaking, you know, with Palantir, you know, and the AI force that it is.

01:02:26.000 I mean, like Mark Zuckerberg being directly involved in an election.

01:02:33.000 Well, let's pull it up.

01:02:34.000 We got this from the Post Millennial.

01:02:36.000 Meta removes restrictions on Trump's Facebook and Instagram accounts, quote, in assessing our responsibility to allow political expression to believe the American people should be able to hear from the nominees for president on the same basis.

01:02:47.000 Funny.

01:02:48.000 This is just after, about a day ago, literally a day ago, Trump threatens to send Meta's Mark Zuckerbuck to prison if re-elected president.

01:02:55.000 Surprise, surprise!

01:02:57.000 I wonder if the reason Mark Zuckerberg built that underground bunker in Hawaii was because Trump's pretty mad at him and Trump's gonna win, huh?

01:03:06.000 Zuckerberg's in control of an explosive product.

01:03:10.000 Metaphorically, of course.

01:03:12.000 A lot of potential to change a lot of minds in a moment.

01:03:15.000 So I can see why he has a bunker.

01:03:16.000 Doesn't want to be responsible.

01:03:17.000 They also know they're losing ad revenue and engagement every time that Trump is on Truth Social and the only place it's getting reposted are basically 2x via side accounts.

01:03:27.000 They realize that during election year they're actually losing money by not having him on.

01:03:31.000 There's no way to lure Trump back onto any of these platforms.

01:03:34.000 We need him more than he has.

01:03:35.000 When I was working, I was mainly working with Facebook before Trump's first victory, and it was a powerhouse.

01:03:41.000 I'm telling you, it was the Wild West, and there wasn't a single publisher on the entire internet.

01:03:48.000 That was as powerful as we were and some other conservative, you know, Daily Wire, and I think some other, you know, even The Blaze was a thing then.

01:03:57.000 And we were killing them.

01:03:59.000 Like, we were killing them when it comes to owning the narrative, like on social media.

01:04:03.000 And Facebook was kind of where the game was at at that point.

01:04:06.000 Now, where's the game at?

01:04:07.000 You know, it's X and, you know, with younger, maybe TikTok, And I think Facebook has lost a lot of relevance, and so I think this is to what you're saying, Hannah.

01:04:19.000 They probably miss the engagement.

01:04:21.000 They miss the action.

01:04:22.000 They miss, you know, getting our data without our permission.

01:04:26.000 You're probably right on the TikTok front, and that's something that's factored into European politics as well.

01:04:30.000 It's that Nigel Farage was the most popular politician and on TikTok in the UK. Baudelaire in France has been a

01:04:37.000 runaway success. Apparently he used to run an anonymous Twitter account posting spicy things, he used

01:04:42.000 to stream Modern Warfare 2.

01:04:43.000 The social media ground game is being played by right-wing politicians and dissident media figures

01:04:48.000 a hell of a lot better and this could be Zuckerberg trying to avoid jail time.

01:04:54.000 I doubt that.

01:04:55.000 Or this could be Zuckerberg reflecting, hey, I played nice with the intelligence services for years suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop, or helping out with COVID misinformation efforts with the Atlantic.

01:05:05.000 And now Elon's got a ton of fans, he's pretty profitable, and he's challenging me to a fight.

01:05:11.000 Everyone loves him.

01:05:12.000 Why don't I just pick the winning side?

01:05:14.000 Yeah, at what point do you just go where the dollars and eyes are?

01:05:17.000 I mean, that really behooves him.

01:05:18.000 To your point, Trump goes to one UFC fight, gets on TikTok, and within 24 hours has several million people following him.

01:05:26.000 I mean, especially this year, but generally Trump is a pretty influential person.

01:05:31.000 It is actually a bad business decision to continue to put him off.

01:05:34.000 And I think The idea that this was like a moral decision and he had done something wrong is obviously we all know a lie.

01:05:40.000 We know it was politically biased and they're not going to stick to this fake ethics they seem to be claiming.

01:05:45.000 So they're going to go with the bottom line, which is that they need Trump.

01:05:47.000 They need Trump and they need the engagement that he brings.

01:05:50.000 I'd love for Zuck to do this just out of the goodwill.

01:05:53.000 It does suck that Trump came at him and was like, I'm going to throw this guy in jail if he doesn't, but like, did you see Zuckerberg?

01:05:57.000 He didn't say it like that, but he kind of did say it like that.

01:05:59.000 Did you see Zuckerberg surfing with the drink on the 4th of July?

01:06:03.000 He was trying to be semi-pig, it's so weird.

01:06:05.000 He's hilarious.

01:06:05.000 But he got roasted for that other picture where he's like, and I'm very pale, but he looks like a ghoul when he's on the surfboard.

01:06:11.000 I mean, you and me both, we had never seen Sun, neither had Mark Zuckerberg.

01:06:15.000 People really mocked him for that.

01:06:16.000 It didn't come across as cool at all.

01:06:17.000 His new facial hair is getting cool.

01:06:19.000 I think he did a heavy dose of psychedelics.

01:06:20.000 I can't tell, but he's like a new man.

01:06:22.000 He's all open source now, freeing Donald Trump on his platform.

01:06:27.000 This is a good sign.

01:06:28.000 But does that make you not trust him?

01:06:30.000 I don't trust anyone in control of these things.

01:06:32.000 No humans.

01:06:33.000 I don't trust them.

01:06:34.000 We should not be in charge of who gets to say what or what gets seen or what doesn't.

01:06:37.000 It's not righteous.

01:06:38.000 I mean, I guess I understand censorship and you want...

01:06:41.000 Ethical censorship, otherwise you're gonna have child porn on every network.

01:06:44.000 So I get that, but I don't trust the people.

01:06:47.000 I just understand the necessary evil of having humans run it right now until we get a machine that can do it better, if we can.

01:06:54.000 What got me, Conor, you were saying is that on these TikTok, you got like Nigel Farage and Jean Bardello, is that how you say his name?

01:07:01.000 Jordan Bardello.

01:07:02.000 Bardello?

01:07:02.000 Jordan Bardello?

01:07:03.000 Bardello?

01:07:04.000 something like that. And TikTok's a Chinese company, so they're pushing these right-wing

01:07:09.000 characters to try and disrupt the liberal economic order and create a sense of like maybe

01:07:15.000 disparate nationalism. I don't know how much it is that the algorithm themselves are pushing them or

01:07:19.000 they're just cutting through the noise because they've got a lot of savvy actors. So I like to

01:07:23.000 compare two groups of Gen Z who know how to use social media, right?

01:07:27.000 The ones that just follow algorithmic trends presented in front of them are like the children of the algorithm.

01:07:32.000 They've had digital babysitters, they are plugged into what my friend Mary Harrington calls the Omnicores.

01:07:37.000 They derive all of their political opinions from their social media feeds, even if it doesn't make sense.

01:07:41.000 This is why Greta Thunberg is marching for Palestine.

01:07:44.000 None of these things are coherent, but they are collaborated in front of them by an outside force.

01:07:48.000 And then you have Sort of reactionary types that grew up on the internet know how to use the technology ergonomically and are using it for their own ends and are cutting against social trends but because they're just frankly smarter and funnier and more innovative than the rest of them they're able to push the politicians they like to the top despite censorship attempts and the like.

01:08:11.000 So I think that's the reason.

01:08:13.000 I don't think it's that China's Actively pushing Trump or Bardella or Farage.

01:08:18.000 I don't know if that's even on their radar, frankly, because Nigel Farage was only running for the position of MP in one small seaside town in Clacton.

01:08:26.000 I just think their team is much smarter than... Who's that Democrat moron that's a paid shill that's about 18?

01:08:32.000 Harry something?

01:08:33.000 Harry Sisson.

01:08:34.000 He's 21.

01:08:35.000 Yeah, right.

01:08:36.000 Well, there we go.

01:08:37.000 Clearly underestimated him.

01:08:39.000 I don't, I don't see innovative and intelligence behind that man's eyes.

01:08:42.000 I see AstroTurfed and that he can't get his own audience organically if you left him to his own devices.

01:08:48.000 Yeah, when he says how great Biden is, I'm like, I'm out.

01:08:51.000 Yeah, he's like, haha, Joe Biden challenged Trump to a round of golf.

01:08:54.000 Let's go.

01:08:54.000 And then Trump's like, let's golf.

01:08:55.000 And he's like, Oh, that's so dumb.

01:08:56.000 Why would you play golf, Joe Biden?

01:08:58.000 And Joe Biden issues a statement saying I won't do anything.

01:09:00.000 Haha, he got you.

01:09:01.000 I mean, And is there any way to verify Harry Sisson's following demographics, right?

01:09:06.000 I feel like he's kind of just courting all of the left boomers, you know, by being like, look, I'm young and I like Biden.

01:09:12.000 They're like, wow, this kid's so cool.

01:09:13.000 Like, he's the actual influencer among young people.

01:09:17.000 You see this on the right too, of course.

01:09:18.000 I mean, this is kind of how influencer culture has gone on.

01:09:21.000 But I think you're right.

01:09:22.000 There's a level of... So Axios had this article where he talked about the viral battlefield and basically that there's a Silicon Valley pact that's formed to investigate why the algorithm works for conservatives or

01:09:34.000 right-wing people better than it does for the left, which is hilarious because we

01:09:38.000 all know all of Silicon Valley is biased to the left.

01:09:40.000 So we can articulate our points in a comical and blunt and direct and honest fashion that

01:09:48.000 resonates popularly. It's not some earnest, contrived pleading where you have to – I mean,

01:09:59.000 I mean, the left can't meme, first of all.

01:10:01.000 They have no sense of humor.

01:10:03.000 They're perpetually outraged.

01:10:05.000 And I think like your average user, like your boomer user on Facebook, for example, or what have you, does not gravitate towards anger, They don't gravitate towards this trenchant, direct, in-your-face thing.

01:10:24.000 What you've got to do is get them to see entertainment or Hollywood figures.

01:10:29.000 I feel like the right was much more creative.

01:10:33.000 In the ways that they got around the gatekeepers in these social media companies.

01:10:38.000 And we tricked them so many times, you know, just trying to get our message out sincerely.

01:10:45.000 But, you know, we were just too good.

01:10:47.000 And so they, you know, had to drop the hammer.

01:10:50.000 It is interesting that the obstacle would actually encourage creativity in a way.

01:10:54.000 Yes, that's right.

01:10:54.000 And every time they change it, you know, me and, you know, some other guys, Benny Johnson and, you know, some other, you know, some other people I work with, we'd always be, you know, we'd have our little strategy session.

01:11:02.000 Well, this is what the algorithm's doing now.

01:11:04.000 We dig into the data, pull out what we need.

01:11:06.000 And, well, this is, we're going to try this.

01:11:08.000 We're going to do that.

01:11:09.000 We're going to do this.

01:11:09.000 We're going to do that.

01:11:10.000 You know, and within a few, it was only a few days after a new algorithm dropped, we, well, we got the secret sauce.

01:11:15.000 You're like the Mr. Beast of politics.

01:11:19.000 I see those, when I think of two young, dichotomous young men, I think of Harry Sisson and Nick Fuentes.

01:11:26.000 The hard right and the hard left.

01:11:27.000 I don't even like making examples of people, but like, Harry just was like, like a goofball.

01:11:33.000 Whereas Nick is actually saying intellectual things, whether you agree with them or not.

01:11:37.000 And so it's, it's easy.

01:11:39.000 I think it's, it's more realistic to follow the intellect, no matter where it's coming from.

01:11:43.000 That's a great point.

01:11:43.000 Harry's a clown.

01:11:45.000 That's a great point, Ian, because what I found when I was a chief editor with IJR and everything, that what worked really well is we were trying to be reasonable.

01:11:53.000 And actually, a lot of the hard right didn't like the website that I did because we were just too reasonable.

01:11:59.000 And eventually we would break leftists.

01:12:02.000 They'd be like, you know, I really want to hate your content, but you guys are just so dang reasonable.

01:12:06.000 You provide evidence.

01:12:07.000 You talk in a very approachable way.

01:12:09.000 You're just explaining things.

01:12:11.000 You kind of leave your point and let people make up their minds at the end of it.

01:12:15.000 I don't see the left doing that at all.

01:12:17.000 They just virtual signal.

01:12:19.000 It's kind of like at the activist rallies.

01:12:20.000 They just chant the same things in unison.

01:12:23.000 I mean, there's nothing intellectual about that.

01:12:24.000 The left stopped making arguments decades ago.

01:12:27.000 They don't make any arguments.

01:12:28.000 They're not about persuasion at all.

01:12:30.000 They're about power and about deceit.

01:12:32.000 It's kind of like locking arms when people will lock arms, but they're locking minds.

01:12:36.000 And they're like, we will not divert from our thought patterns.

01:12:39.000 You cannot break through this thought pattern kind of mentality.

01:12:41.000 I find this stuff chilling.

01:12:42.000 I got to say about Harry Sisson, because Harry, I don't know you and I'm sure you're a legit

01:12:46.000 dude in reality.

01:12:47.000 I'd love to hang out with you and have you on the show at some point.

01:12:49.000 That is unfair.

01:12:50.000 No thanks.

01:12:51.000 I just, I don't want to widen the gap unnecessarily.

01:12:54.000 The dude just says whatever Biden says.

01:12:57.000 Like Biden could fart.

01:12:58.000 He'd be like, yeah, go Biden!

01:13:00.000 Is he getting paid?

01:13:02.000 There's reports that he gets paid from like a consulting firm.

01:13:06.000 And then the general explanation is that he'll play a semantic game where he goes, I do not get paid.

01:13:13.000 For my posts.

01:13:13.000 Right.

01:13:14.000 And then it's like, ah, he's paid as an influencer, but not per post.

01:13:19.000 But I don't know for sure exactly what his arrangement is.

01:13:21.000 Because for a young guy to get hard about Biden makes no sense.

01:13:25.000 That's why they need to hire people.

01:13:26.000 Well, people weren't talking about Obama, right?

01:13:28.000 I think a lot of young precocious people get really into politics early on because there is an energy and excitement about it.

01:13:35.000 And, you know, maybe they I've grown up in democratic families or conservative families where it's like we're really invested in this and there's sort of a reward for it.

01:13:43.000 But I think in a lot of cases in the influencer age it's about getting eyes on you and I think to your point there is an abandonment of the need to persuade people.

01:13:52.000 They're not two different ideas trying to win people over.

01:13:54.000 I think conservatives tend to try to appeal to whatever or how do we reposition or rephrase this argument so that this group of people is interested in it.

01:14:02.000 With the left it's really comply or get out.

01:14:05.000 Well, I think when you go to the roots of like modern leftism, like critical theory and identity politics, what you think – reason will necessarily break down as a natural course of their own ideology.

01:14:18.000 So they're breaking down reason in a way that you get with this intersectionality, you get all these contradictions.

01:14:26.000 the cognitive dissonance is off the charts with these people.

01:14:30.000 And so when you try to make a reasonable or rational argument with them, it doesn't

01:14:34.000 cut through all of these layers of dogma that they have, like walls, to stop you from making

01:14:40.000 your reasonable point. You know, basic logic breaks down with their world.

01:14:44.000 I see. This is, I think, a generational divide.

01:14:47.000 There is no reason on TikTok.

01:14:48.000 It's all vibes.

01:14:49.000 It's all politics by vibe.

01:14:51.000 No, it is!

01:14:51.000 This is the only word that you can do for it.

01:14:52.000 It's aesthetics, it's thumos, it's energy, right?

01:14:56.000 And okay, contrast Joe Biden, who's dying in front of us, with Donald Trump, who looks like he's having fun, or Jordan Bardella, or Nigel Farage.

01:15:03.000 Like, which of these interchangeable suits who can't go off script is compelling to a young man who wants someone to look up to and someone to have a laugh with?

01:15:12.000 None of them.

01:15:13.000 So, the right-wing politicians just actually are now better at vibes and aesthetics.

01:15:17.000 They're not just sitting down and having a great debate.

01:15:19.000 Like, I don't think the Trump-Biden debate really influenced any Zoomers.

01:15:24.000 I think memes about Trump influence Zoomers.

01:15:26.000 Yeah.

01:15:26.000 And again, that was that was this term viral battlefield.

01:15:29.000 I mean, it's it's the clips and and the post debate Internet warfare that is really influencing young voters who who didn't watch it live.

01:15:37.000 They just checked in on it later.

01:15:38.000 So I think the contradiction, just to unwind really quick, what I was talking about is packaging versus content.

01:15:43.000 So I was just the packaging is exactly what you're talking about.

01:15:46.000 It's very emotive.

01:15:47.000 It's spontaneous.

01:15:48.000 It's in the moment.

01:15:49.000 It's energy.

01:15:50.000 It's interaction effects.

01:15:52.000 But when you get people to grab that, then you unwind it.

01:15:55.000 You air the wine.

01:15:58.000 You just kind of take it in.

01:16:00.000 You get your narrative, and you try to lead people through it.

01:16:06.000 Some people might call it confirmation bias, but you're kind of Giving them the reasons that they are justified in feeling the way that they feel and believing the way that they believe.

01:16:17.000 Are you saying it's like emotions first and then justification after?

01:16:20.000 Yes, it's emotions first followed by reason.

01:16:22.000 I think that's interesting given the years, at least in the U.S.

01:16:26.000 I'm sure we can have a European equivalent over there, of Trump is bad.

01:16:31.000 Trump is bad and no matter what he does he's bad and he's too orange and he's very loud and mean to ladies and I don't even know what else but, you know, If you were, let's say, 12 when he was first elected, and so you were, you know, younger than that when he was campaigning, you're, you know, 16 by the time he's up for re-election, so you're not quite old enough to vote at this point, this election cycle would be your first time voting after years and years of hearing, well, no matter what, we have to defeat Trump.

01:16:58.000 And if that's the instinct that you have, even though you can't explain it, you might say, well, I'm never voting for Trump, and then look for the explanation as to why later.

01:17:06.000 You're sort of programmed for this bias against certain politicians.

01:17:09.000 Well, I kind of like that exercise in trying to see things from a younger generation's point of view because, you know, when you're talking about just optics, Trump is the outlaw.

01:17:18.000 He's the outsider.

01:17:19.000 Yes, he's brash and maybe a BS artist and, you know, maybe everybody hates him, but he's got that, you know, dragon energy, like Kanye called it, you know.

01:17:28.000 He's kind of got that brash bravado, and then you've got this limp noodle Joe Biden on the other side.

01:17:34.000 You can't really get behind that for aesthetics reasons, like what you're saying.

01:17:39.000 The left is very emotional.

01:17:40.000 That's why Barack Obama was such a powerhouse.

01:17:45.000 People were attracted to him emotionally once he got out into the forefront of politics.

01:17:51.000 You do see polling like this where, you know, there's one from Pew Research this week where it said, you know, at least 23 percent or only 23 percent of voters said that Biden could be described as sharp minded.

01:18:03.000 But, you know, they'll say Trump is mean and he's too loud or else, but they also will say that he's strong and he looks, you know, he postures well.

01:18:10.000 So it's like they, you know, they used to say, oh, you want a politician you could get a beer with?

01:18:14.000 Well, the left doesn't want to get a beer with Trump, but most voters will admit that in terms of strength, he is he is the better choice.

01:18:20.000 And this is what we saw 2016-2020.

01:18:21.000 It's the idea of being on the playground, and there's a bully, and you'd rather the bully be working for you than the kids you don't like.

01:18:31.000 Trump can walk around and you know, hey look, if that guy's standing in front of me, if I send him to Russia, to North Korea to negotiate, he's gonna push those people around.

01:18:38.000 Joe Biden's gonna get pushed around.

01:18:40.000 So why vote for Joe Biden?

01:18:41.000 I heard this MSNBC contributor today, again, criticizing Trump and Viktor Orban and their ties or their ability to communicate with Vladimir Putin.

01:18:52.000 And we're criticizing Trump for saying, you know, different world leaders that are unpopular are strong, like that Putin has been strong or that, like, you know, the president of China has projected strength or whatever.

01:19:03.000 And they're like, he has such a juvenile understanding of what strength is.

01:19:09.000 What do you mean?

01:19:10.000 And I was just waiting for the word toxic masculinity to come out.

01:19:13.000 I mean there are all these things that we sort of subconsciously look for in world leaders that also a lot of progressive causes reject on the base.

01:19:22.000 They think that they're so bad for society and so I think it actually makes it very difficult for certain voters and certain political pundits to be able to judge what is actually attractive to someone when looking for a leader of the free world.

01:19:34.000 I think it does go back to what we were talking about earlier where the Democrat machine, you know, they have these, you know, figureheads, to use a polite term, you know, easily controllable people that they put out in front of it.

01:19:46.000 You know, how do you have a strong charismatic authority figure?

01:19:51.000 That is ahead of a machine.

01:19:53.000 It kind of does not go hand-in-hand.

01:19:55.000 And so, like, when Trump upsets the Republican – is able to prey on a weak Republican establishment and to run against them, you know, he called, you know, Little Hands Marco and, you know, Lion Ted and all of this.

01:20:08.000 And he goes right at the Republican establishment, senses their weakness, rises to the affront, has this charismatic authority.

01:20:16.000 You know, he's the reflection of a weak party.

01:20:19.000 You know, like he can be the strong man at a weak party.

01:20:21.000 I don't think it necessarily works the other way around, you know, and so I think, you know, when you see like even Marine Le Pen, you know, in France, you know, she rises in prominence, I figure the left freaks out, you know, the machine starts doing things.

01:20:35.000 So they open up a campaign investigation against her, you know, drops two days after the election.

01:20:40.000 So, you know, really, you know, from like the previous election, they opened up.

01:20:44.000 So they were sitting on it.

01:20:45.000 They had in their back pocket, they want to punish her.

01:20:47.000 Just like, you know, Brazil went after Bolsonaro.

01:20:50.000 Like, you know, they're going after Trump right now, which for me is clear political prosecution, especially in the light of Biden's now noticeable cognitive decline.

01:21:02.000 Everybody sees it.

01:21:03.000 Everybody knows it.

01:21:04.000 And that's what they did to protect Biden was to do all these political prosecutions.

01:21:09.000 What happened with Le Pen?

01:21:10.000 I didn't know they were running a — Yeah, a few days after they dropped a — you know, the

01:21:15.000 Paris police authorities, the prosecutor's office dropped a campaign finance investigation.

01:21:23.000 There's like a nuance in there.

01:21:24.000 It's like, you know, billboards that, you know, they put up and they like misclassified.

01:21:28.000 It kind of reminds me a little bit of the Matt and D.A.'s case where they, you know,

01:21:31.000 they mis — you know, she misclassified some expenses, you know, the legal expenses.

01:21:35.000 So they're investigating some loans she took from some Russian billionaire in 2013 and

01:21:40.000 they're saying she's backed by the Kremlin.

01:21:42.000 I mean, bear in mind this was before even the invasion of Crimea, so it's totally absurd.

01:21:45.000 Another example to add to this list is in Germany, Alternative für Deutschland, which has risen in the polls since the 2018 vote, where the Greens took a large portion of the German EU Parliament and then did votes for 16.

01:21:58.000 It turns out all the 16 year olds don't like a bunch of Criminal foreigners entering their country and taking all their job opportunities and homes.

01:22:06.000 So lots of them have come out and voted for the Migration Restrictionist Party.

01:22:11.000 And what's ended up happening there is, after they've gotten popular on TikTok, the German government is seeking to ban them under their constitutional provisions.

01:22:17.000 Just ban their political opposition.

01:22:19.000 Multiple politicians have been attacked.

01:22:21.000 One of them has been stabbed.

01:22:22.000 Another one, I believe, has been given a prison sentence for citing the German government's own statistics on migrant crime and sexual assault.

01:22:30.000 So they are going hard after the party that basically tells the truth and also captures the imagination of young people.

01:22:35.000 They're mad, they're using their own data against them.

01:22:37.000 You said they lowered the voting age in Germany?

01:22:40.000 And then it massively backfired.

01:22:40.000 To 16, yes.

01:22:42.000 They're doing that in the UK, by the way.

01:22:43.000 It backfired, though, you said?

01:22:44.000 Yes, because 16-year-olds increased the vote share for the right-wing party.

01:22:48.000 Yes, it's also happening in the UK.

01:22:48.000 Wow.

01:22:50.000 The Reform Party is the most popular among young men and it's way more popular than the Conservatives among 16 to 25 year olds.

01:22:57.000 So it looks like there might be a youthquake.

01:22:59.000 Keir Starmer, current Prime Minister, is thinking about lowering the voting age to 16 and is now shaky about it.

01:23:07.000 He was also going to give the vote to all EU citizens.

01:23:10.000 That is up in the air.

01:23:11.000 And one interesting thing that I forgot to mention about UK elections, we allow foreign citizens to vote.

01:23:17.000 If you're in the Commonwealth and you're in the UK, you're allowed to vote in our elections.

01:23:22.000 So that means the 250,000... Like a tourist?

01:23:24.000 Yeah.

01:23:25.000 If you're from the Commonwealth country.

01:23:26.000 So like India or Australia.

01:23:28.000 If you're from Canada but you have a residency in the UK, you're voting in the UK?

01:23:31.000 If you're in the UK, yeah.

01:23:33.000 So if you're a student from India, you can just come over and vote in the UK elections.

01:23:33.000 You can.

01:23:37.000 Wow.

01:23:38.000 So that's something that needs to be cleaned up.

01:23:39.000 Has that been happening for a long time?

01:23:41.000 That's been happening since the establishment of the Commonwealth before, obviously, mass transit and mass migration.

01:23:45.000 So Mauritius, you're not talking about it, obviously.

01:23:47.000 Can you give me a quick, just like a...

01:23:50.000 How did India come to be a Commonwealth nation?

01:23:54.000 Oh, they were part of the British Empire and after India claimed independence and...

01:23:57.000 But I mean like, how did Britain come to, like, conquer or colonize or how does it begin?

01:24:04.000 Like, show up with a bunch of boats and guns?

01:24:06.000 Pretty much, yes, and then they... Were the Indian people happy about that?

01:24:09.000 For quite a while, actually, they were pretty good with it, because we brought a large amount of trade.

01:24:13.000 Obviously, the East India Company was incredibly corrupt, and then there was the Amritsar Massacre, where about a thousand people were shot because they were protesting, I think it was food prices, and some general went rogue, but then he was punished by Winston Churchill.

01:24:26.000 Then, obviously, after Gandhi's protests, the British listened to the concerns of the

01:24:30.000 Indians that were constantly protesting and said, okay, we'll withdraw and we'll split

01:24:34.000 this place up.

01:24:35.000 And then immediately after the establishment of Pakistan alongside India, they started

01:24:38.000 fighting again.

01:24:39.000 We're constantly blamed because they just can't get along.

01:24:41.000 So it seems to me with the UK allowing anyone to vote.

01:24:48.000 There's going to be a lot of people who are not happy with the UK.

01:24:50.000 No, no.

01:24:51.000 They're quite happy to go there and disrupt what the UK is doing.

01:24:54.000 Anytime you bring up mass immigration from other former Commonwealth countries, they say, well, you conquered our country, so it's your turn.

01:24:59.000 And it's like, right, it's revenge.

01:25:00.000 Thank you for admitting it.

01:25:02.000 And your government is eager.

01:25:04.000 Yes, well, it was run by an Indian man who in 2014 wrote a paper for Policy Exchange called The Changing Face of Britain, who said that politicians might want to make note of the different voting demographics that comprises immigration.

01:25:16.000 And it just so happened the Conservative Party was voted for more by Indians, and when the Hindu Prime Minister is installed into office, Indian immigration just shoots up.

01:25:24.000 Can't imagine why.

01:25:25.000 Was he actually from India, or was he of Indian descent?

01:25:28.000 He's from Indian descent.

01:25:29.000 His parents are from India, but he also married an Indian billionaire.

01:25:31.000 She is the head of Infosys, and Infosys, I believe, was a company that worked with the Chinese to create the social credit system.

01:25:39.000 So, good times for you guys.

01:25:40.000 It's working out really well.

01:25:42.000 But this isn't commonly talked about.

01:25:43.000 I mean, conservatives talk about this, but I feel like most of the media in the UK doesn't talk about it anymore.

01:25:47.000 Well, the Conservative Party certainly don't talk about it, and the media in the UK certainly don't talk about it.

01:25:51.000 Honestly, Nigel Farage barely touches it.

01:25:53.000 He just calls Rishi Sunak corrupt and out of touch.

01:25:56.000 These issues are just beyond the pale, other than in alternative media.

01:26:01.000 Yeah, a good emperor wouldn't allow that to happen to his empire.

01:26:03.000 That's why I feel like the emperor's not in control.

01:26:06.000 Obviously.

01:26:06.000 Don't you imagine if in the Hunger Games the capital let citizens from District 12 just come in and vote in the capital?

01:26:12.000 Crazy.

01:26:13.000 There'd be no capital!

01:26:15.000 Yeah, you wonder why London doesn't look like a capital city anymore.

01:26:15.000 Heavens!

01:26:19.000 Do you have to be British to become a Prime Minister?

01:26:23.000 Do you have to be born in the country?

01:26:25.000 No, you don't have to be born in the country, no.

01:26:27.000 The Conservative Party is about to be led by a woman who is a Nigerian immigrant.

01:26:31.000 So, yes.

01:26:32.000 She can become Prime Minister of the country?

01:26:34.000 She could, yes.

01:26:35.000 Nigerian woman?

01:26:36.000 Interesting.

01:26:36.000 Yes.

01:26:37.000 I kind of feel like this is the intention of the British Empire from the get-go.

01:26:41.000 What do you mean?

01:26:42.000 I mean you go around taking over all these places or asserting control over them and

01:26:47.000 Making them better, yes.

01:26:49.000 Sure, and then inviting them to be a part of the British Empire.

01:26:51.000 You would never bring them to the capital.

01:26:52.000 Yes, exactly.

01:26:53.000 We weren't mass importing them.

01:26:54.000 Like, immigration was always incredibly low until 1997.

01:26:58.000 It was running at either net zero, which is now the current phrase, or net 48,000 on average.

01:27:03.000 And as soon as 1997 happened, it went to net 100,000.

01:27:07.000 And then under the Conservatives, it's been net 700,000.

01:27:09.000 What, per year?

01:27:10.000 700,000.

01:27:11.000 Wow, what changed?

01:27:12.000 After Brexit, all of the limitations on free movement within the Schengen zone and the

01:27:18.000 like were lifted.

01:27:20.000 And so the Brexiteers in the Conservative Party didn't want to lower immigration like

01:27:23.000 Instead, they just said, we wanted global Britain, so freer movement with countries outside of the European Union, which is why we get 90,000 Chinese and 250,000 Indians and 100,000 Nigerians every year.

01:27:33.000 And so, when I'm saying net 700,000, that means added to the population, that means also 600,000 people left.

01:27:38.000 So every year they give 1.2 million permanent stay visas out, plus 2 million visitor visas, plus 50,000 illegal boat crossings.

01:27:46.000 And that's every year, in a country, as I said last night, the size of New York State.

01:27:49.000 7,000 net, meaning that 600,000 people... Say that again, Nick.

01:27:51.000 700,000 net were added to the population through immigration.

01:27:56.000 600,000 left.

01:27:57.000 What's the total population?

01:27:58.000 It's about 70,000 now, but there's some quibbling on those numbers.

01:28:02.000 20,000?

01:28:02.000 Yeah.

01:28:03.000 So there's obviously... The total population... Sorry, 70 million.

01:28:06.000 My bad.

01:28:07.000 There's some quibbling on those numbers because the food industry have come out and said, we're servicing a lot more than that.

01:28:12.000 So... What was the population 30 years ago?

01:28:15.000 Must have been about...

01:28:18.000 Let's ask our robot friend.

01:28:19.000 Yeah, I think 10 million people have been added to the population since 1997, so it must have been about 60

01:28:25.000 I mean, like the US, that means that there are also people there unregistered, so you don't actually have an accurate...

01:28:25.000 million.

01:28:29.000 As of 2017, there were, according to Pew Research and the Oxford Migration Observatory, 1.2 million illegals there.

01:28:37.000 This was because Tony Blair abolished exit checks in 1998 so we couldn't verify if anyone had overstayed a visa.

01:28:42.000 And this was before mass immigration, mass illegal immigration across the channel.

01:28:45.000 So there's well over 2 million illegals in the UK right now.

01:28:48.000 Defies logic.

01:28:48.000 With the war on terrorism, this whole, since 2003, this fear of the other, It almost makes you think, like, these security apparatus is not really interested in security.

01:28:58.000 They're interested in something else.

01:28:58.000 Well, they're monitoring us.

01:29:00.000 I know for a fact they've been monitoring us, because the Home Office gives hundreds of thousands of pounds to left-wing NGOs that compile hate reports or hit pieces on me, specifically.

01:29:07.000 And I spoke to someone in the Home Office, actually.

01:29:09.000 They have a thing called Prevent, which is meant to be on the watch for terrorism.

01:29:12.000 Now, bear in mind, I think it's 1% of the entire Muslim population in the UK is on a terror watch list.

01:29:18.000 There's 4 million Muslims, there's 40,000 people on a terror watch list for Islamic terrorism, they spend most of the time hunting down the far right.

01:29:24.000 The far right being readers of George Orwell, Douglas Murray, and me.

01:29:29.000 And I was told by a guy in the Home Office on Prevent, he was looking at materials, and names like mine and Douglas Murray's were in there.

01:29:35.000 And being monitored by my own government.

01:29:36.000 People that read George Orwell?

01:29:38.000 Tolkien.

01:29:38.000 Yes, and J.R.R.

01:29:41.000 What?

01:29:41.000 Yes, as signs of far-right extremism.

01:29:43.000 It was reported in the Spectator.

01:29:44.000 People can go and read it.

01:29:44.000 You also put it to Latin Mass?

01:29:45.000 Because then our government will investigate you.

01:29:48.000 Yeah, pray the rosary, yes.

01:29:48.000 Do you have concerns about teachers and schools?

01:29:50.000 Because then you will be investigated as a terrorist as well.

01:29:52.000 Yes, quite, yeah.

01:29:53.000 It seems like it's all syncing up across all the different nations.

01:29:56.000 The George Orwell stuff's wild.

01:29:57.000 Like, 1984.

01:29:57.000 Have you guys, I don't know if you've read 1984.

01:29:59.000 I highly recommend the read.

01:30:00.000 It's like 100 pages long.

01:30:02.000 He wrote Animal Farm.

01:30:04.000 I see Animal Farm leading up to this 1984 situation where they say, The final and most important command from the government was to ignore the truth of your eyes and ears.

01:30:14.000 Some quote like that, like, just ignore what's right in front of you.

01:30:17.000 And, dude, the forever wars across the world, you're just fighting a new enemy.

01:30:21.000 We had ISIS.

01:30:22.000 Now we have ISIS-K.

01:30:23.000 Now we're fighting the Taliban.

01:30:24.000 Now we're fighting the Russians.

01:30:25.000 Now we're fighting who God knows what.

01:30:27.000 But there's always some enemy, foreign enemy.

01:30:29.000 And it's like, dude, he gave us a blueprint of what this liberal economic order has been doing, essentially.

01:30:34.000 Well, I've read Brave New World, too, not the script of the new Captain America movie, but, you know, that kind of gives you the other half of the picture where we're just, you know, we're dopamine freaks.

01:30:44.000 We're, you know, we're looking for our next high and just going day to day, you know, looking for Soma.

01:30:49.000 And also, that trailer sucked.

01:30:51.000 Yeah.

01:30:52.000 I'm sorry.

01:30:53.000 And I've been a big fan of the Marvel movies since they started the MCU back in the day, and cultural decline.

01:30:59.000 They cannot maintain this stuff.

01:31:01.000 Whatever it is they're trying to do with this new Captain Marvel movie, or I'm sorry, Captain America movie, is just absolute trash.

01:31:06.000 Make it gay and laid, like Abraham Lincoln.

01:31:09.000 But it's worse than that.

01:31:10.000 It's worse than that.

01:31:11.000 The trailer so far was nothing.

01:31:14.000 It was nothing.

01:31:15.000 It's Anthony Mackie walking around, and it's nothing, and I'm like, I suppose we get to the point of cultural stagnation, where they try injecting ideology into it for political reasons, but also because they don't know what else to do.

01:31:27.000 They're like, this is a thing that people are talking about.

01:31:29.000 Now they got nothing to write about!

01:31:31.000 It's like Hero's Journey meets, you know, neo-Marxist dogma, you know, or like identity politics with plain language, and you fuse it together and you just repeat.

01:31:41.000 It's not even.

01:31:42.000 Hero's Journey is abandoned.

01:31:43.000 They're not doing Heroes.

01:31:44.000 Well, yeah, the new regime of Disney.

01:31:46.000 Right now it's now a couple years.

01:31:48.000 But the point I'm trying to make is that we had this period of cultural stagnation where even when they started making these movies, it's just regurgitating old ideas.

01:31:56.000 They've got nothing left.

01:31:57.000 And I think there's something.

01:32:01.000 I don't know if dangerous is the right word, but there is a portent of danger in that we are failing to create new cultural ideas.

01:32:13.000 It's stagnated to the point of where it's now.

01:32:16.000 A brittle chalk figure disintegrating in the wind.

01:32:19.000 We used to make movies, we used to make music, we used to make art.

01:32:22.000 And then it got to the point where we started regurgitating music, art, and movies.

01:32:26.000 Same thing over and over and over again.

01:32:27.000 I just used ArtificialIntelligenceSuno.com to make a song.

01:32:31.000 To make an amalgam regurgitation of something old.

01:32:34.000 I agree with what you're saying, Tim, and I feel some of that frustration.

01:32:38.000 And our publishing houses, for example, are extremely woke.

01:32:41.000 I just had a book cancelled.

01:32:42.000 Yeah, well, yeah, okay, there you go.

01:32:44.000 And so, like, I went to HarperCollins and had a great idea and, you know, pitched a fiction book, and they said it was good, but, you know, it didn't fit the format, so we'll just do it as a graphic novel.

01:32:53.000 But I didn't do that.

01:32:54.000 I said, like, you know, I obviously did something wrong here.

01:32:56.000 So, you know, I started writing fiction, and I talked to, like, Kurt Schlichter and some other people who are independent, you know, publishers, and he's been very successful, you know, just talking about We have to take advantage of the new media out there to

01:33:10.000 start trying to have some cultural genesis, this new initiative to unleash our ideas, because

01:33:18.000 right now should be, historically speaking, if you go to ancient Greece when it was declined,

01:33:25.000 and you go to a lot of civilizations when they go through periods of decline, you start seeing

01:33:31.000 intellectuals try to come up with great works and to get them published.

01:33:36.000 But right now we're in a period where there's a lot of push.

01:33:41.000 We are in the counterculture.

01:33:43.000 So right now the elites are starting their crackdown on us through big tech and social

01:33:51.000 media.

01:33:52.000 But there's still a window.

01:33:55.000 There's still a twilight window left.

01:33:57.000 And if we don't seize that opportunity to really tell powerful stories and narratives that connect with people like what we were saying earlier on the emotional level, And that's how you draw people in.

01:34:09.000 You make them empathize with your plight.

01:34:11.000 You make them connect to you and see the world through your eyes.

01:34:14.000 And then that's how you actually get a broader movement, you know, because politics is downstream from culture, as Andrew Breitbart, the late Andrew Breitbart was right to point out.

01:34:26.000 So if we don't really get better at telling stories and seizing on this small window of capitalizing on independent media, you know, even Amazon, Yeah, I don't know how long this will happen.

01:34:38.000 They have great ways to publish books now independently.

01:34:41.000 And, you know, so our window is closing.

01:34:45.000 You know, so if anybody has great ideas to write stories, you know, get at it.

01:34:48.000 Yeah, psychic monkeys from space.

01:34:50.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:34:52.000 What kind of book did you get cancelled?

01:34:54.000 So, I'll have to elaborate on it properly at a later date, but I'd been working essentially on a book deal behind the scenes at a very prominent publisher for about a year with a wonderful man who was leading an insurrection inside his publishing house to get conservative books published under a new imprint.

01:35:07.000 And I got right up to the acquisitions meeting where they were going to give me my advance and my deadline date.

01:35:11.000 The women in the publication Sorry, publicity department.

01:35:18.000 And the finance department were like, great, this is going to make us loads of money.

01:35:21.000 I just did a trigonometry interview on basically its contents, and it blew up unexpectedly.

01:35:26.000 And then two things happened.

01:35:28.000 One, sensitivity readers basically threw a fit and walked out of the meeting.

01:35:32.000 But it was fine.

01:35:33.000 We got right up to the deadline.

01:35:34.000 At the last minute, a Hail Mary from an executive who introduced DEI policies into the company said, we're not going to do this anymore.

01:35:40.000 Done.

01:35:40.000 We're dropping it.

01:35:41.000 So I've now got to start from the ground up somewhere else.

01:35:43.000 Well, so what do you need to make the book happen?

01:35:44.000 What's the book about?

01:35:45.000 So the book is currently titled Fallen Sons, why Gen Z men were raised to be revolutionaries.

01:35:52.000 And I'm looking at the technological, social, and familial forces that dispossessed men from a sense of identity, from politics, from their country, from their families, and why I predict a right-wing religious backlash coming out.

01:36:03.000 What do you have so far?

01:36:04.000 Do you have a treatment?

01:36:05.000 I've got the treatment, I've got various articles that I use as samples for the chapters, and I've got draft kit bashed around.

01:36:13.000 So I've been working on it for quite some time, but the problem is... I suppose the main challenge is that with these publishing deals, you're looking for distribution.

01:36:21.000 Yes.

01:36:22.000 Otherwise, it's... I would be able to handle it in the US on my own.

01:36:25.000 I've got a lovely agent.

01:36:26.000 And the gutting thing is, the guy who I was working with in the publishing house was really nice.

01:36:30.000 Like, most of politics and most of this stuff is personal relationships, right?

01:36:33.000 And you've got to really try and find the people who, one, aren't grifters, and two, are really sincere.

01:36:37.000 And now I'm gutted to have to start at what could well be a very nice publisher, but with one that I don't already count as a friend.

01:36:42.000 Well, two things.

01:36:43.000 First of all, what I was alluding to earlier is Amazon has print-to-demand services for everything, including hardcover books, softcover books.

01:36:50.000 You know, you can do print-to-demand.

01:36:52.000 So basically, when somebody orders your book, they will print it locally and send it to them.

01:36:56.000 That's a game-changer.

01:36:57.000 Second thing is, I know some conservative publishers.

01:36:59.000 We can talk afterwards.

01:37:00.000 IndieWire?

01:37:01.000 Yeah, well, perhaps.

01:37:03.000 But I know people in the New York City, like Manhattan.

01:37:06.000 That's another way that they keep conservatives down.

01:37:08.000 There are a few independent, you know, or smaller house, but they were basically an imprint of,

01:37:13.000 they worked with HarperCollins for a while, but I think they broke off.

01:37:15.000 But yeah, I mean, it's frustrating. I know personally, it's frustrating to deal with these,

01:37:22.000 you know, publishing houses. And, you know, that's another way that they keep conservatives down.

01:37:27.000 They keep us out of the counterculture, you know, and that's where we are right now.

01:37:32.000 Publishing has been really gridlocked for a long time.

01:37:35.000 I mean, I think that was one of the, well, I'll talk about universities, but I actually think publishing is one of the first sort of victory grounds of progressive influencers is that they got in early on the administrative level of publishing houses and really don't allow certain topics to be talked about.

01:37:49.000 No, they have a stranglehold on it.

01:37:50.000 Yeah, very much so.

01:37:52.000 Like Random House, are these the publishers?

01:37:54.000 All of these huge publishing houses, they do not, not all of them, but they do not,

01:38:00.000 especially in like fiction, like they really control fiction.

01:38:03.000 Like they do not, they don't let just like conservatives write fiction and just like,

01:38:08.000 oh, here you go.

01:38:09.000 They will sequester them off into like the little politics sections, you know, of certain like conservative publishing houses, you know, like Murdoch's Empire, you know, has his publishing outlets, you know, so.

01:38:23.000 You know, they sequest silo us.

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01:38:34.000 Oh boy, as soon as we wrap this up, I'm going to drive to the airport, and I'm not gonna sleep, but it'll be fun.

01:38:40.000 Heading to Milwaukee, and I'm sure the old poker tables at Pottawatomie are waiting with my name on it, so it'll be very fun to relax tomorrow and Trying to catch a nap.

01:38:50.000 Are you there all week?

01:38:51.000 We're there all week for the RNC.

01:38:53.000 So we're not actually going to the RNC.

01:38:54.000 We're in the periphery of the RNC, because everyone's going to be there, so we're going to be hanging out with people.

01:38:58.000 We're going to have various people on the show.

01:39:00.000 And excited to hang out with Jeremy from The Quartering, because of course he's in the area.

01:39:04.000 And it's like the most excited I've ever been for a Culture War episode, because we're going to rag on Star Wars and Marvel and just talk culture and comics and all that stuff.

01:39:11.000 Yes.

01:39:11.000 And Magic the Gathering.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, I love Jeremy.

01:39:13.000 Oh, good.

01:39:14.000 He had me on his show a couple months ago.

01:39:15.000 Guy's great.

01:39:16.000 Ian's got his magic deck right there.

01:39:17.000 Yeah, check out Urza.

01:39:18.000 What is it, Lord High Artificer?

01:39:21.000 You want to talk about a High Artificer, man.

01:39:23.000 The one and only.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, I beat him in three turns.

01:39:25.000 Okay.

01:39:26.000 Your deck's busted.

01:39:27.000 What's the name of the commander?

01:39:28.000 Nadu.

01:39:29.000 It should be banned.

01:39:30.000 I agree with all those other people that were saying that.

01:39:32.000 It's too powerful.

01:39:33.000 I just waited turn three.

01:39:35.000 I mean, you were watching.

01:39:36.000 You did 40 things, I think, or more.

01:39:40.000 It was just bonkers.

01:39:42.000 He's like, no, no, I want you to watch me do this.

01:39:42.000 You want me to concede?

01:39:44.000 I had opening hand, shuko, monocrypt.

01:39:49.000 But I was playing Thassa, which is a lower powered deck, just to be nice, and Ian was beating the crap out of me, and I was like, alright Ian, I'm gonna show you what's going on.

01:39:56.000 I got what was coming to me.

01:39:57.000 But it is sad that a game like Magic, for those that don't know what it is, it's a strategy card game, it's like poker and chess combined, has been completely dominated by woke.

01:40:08.000 Let me just explain to you why people are like, don't play it, it's a woke game.

01:40:11.000 I'm like, I want to take back this culture.

01:40:14.000 I don't want to give it up.

01:40:15.000 And the same is true for skateboarding and for music and things like that.

01:40:18.000 This is a card game.

01:40:21.000 It's the first card game ever made.

01:40:22.000 It has been taken over by woke entities.

01:40:24.000 First collectible card game.

01:40:26.000 No, it's the first poker.

01:40:27.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:40:28.000 Yes, yes.

01:40:28.000 Right.

01:40:30.000 The first collectible card game, and everything else.

01:40:32.000 Yu-Gi-Oh!, so popular, is basically a cartoon about people playing Magic the Gathering.

01:40:36.000 That's essentially what they were doing.

01:40:38.000 Let me explain to you.

01:40:40.000 There are five colors of magic, right?

01:40:42.000 You've heard in movies, there's black magic, there's white magic.

01:40:45.000 Well, magic has five colors.

01:40:46.000 Blue, red, green, black, white.

01:40:48.000 There are cards that will say something like, destroy target black creature.

01:40:53.000 And it's just a reference to a zombie.

01:40:55.000 So they've banned cards like this because they're racist.

01:40:58.000 You cannot play with a card anymore, it is a racist card!

01:41:00.000 Do you know what the name of that card is?

01:41:02.000 Or what some of those are?

01:41:03.000 Well, there's Cleanse.

01:41:04.000 Cleanse?

01:41:05.000 Destroys all black creatures?

01:41:06.000 And they banned it because it has a dis- And it shows a bunch of, like, black shadowy creatures getting ripped apart on the picture.

01:41:10.000 They're demons, they're vampires and ghouls, it's like- They're not cards, black man.

01:41:14.000 Yeah, they've been around forever.

01:41:15.000 In only the last couple years, they've- They've made it racist.

01:41:18.000 Yes.

01:41:18.000 Yeah.

01:41:19.000 Nuts.

01:41:19.000 They literally banned it from tournament play.

01:41:22.000 Because it's racist.

01:41:23.000 Because of the imagery on the card.

01:41:24.000 It's so crazy.

01:41:25.000 What if they had rebranded it to, like, Onyx Creature, you know?

01:41:27.000 Like an alternative word for black.

01:41:29.000 I think that would be fine by those people.

01:41:31.000 But I believe... No, but I believe there was actually a discussion at one point, and in some instances where the color of black is the cards are black, they've made them lightly purple.

01:41:43.000 Like, it is nuts how insane these people have gotten.

01:41:46.000 It could have called it dark and light magic.

01:41:48.000 I mean, they didn't have to call it white and black, but that's what Richard Garfield did in 1992.

01:41:52.000 Even then, the woke have claimed that chess is racist because it's white and black pieces.

01:41:56.000 And the white people go first, obviously.

01:41:58.000 The Europeans attack first.

01:42:00.000 Let's read Super Chats.

01:42:02.000 And it's fun.

01:42:02.000 But anyway, I'm excited to hang out with Jeremy.

01:42:04.000 We're going to go through all of that stuff.

01:42:06.000 Yeah.

01:42:07.000 Anyway, Clint Torres says, howdy people!

01:42:08.000 Howdy, Clint.

01:42:09.000 Welcome back.

01:42:11.000 Okay, we got Chafed BM.

01:42:14.000 I don't know why they were so quick to get rid of Bidden.

01:42:14.000 Great name.

01:42:17.000 He perfectly represents the Democrat Party.

01:42:20.000 Well, it's not so quick.

01:42:22.000 You know, it's been a long time.

01:42:24.000 He wasn't doing their Bidden, their Bidden-off.

01:42:27.000 Robert Maras says, if Gavin Newsom is the candidate, all the ads need to be focused on SB 145.

01:42:32.000 Just saying.

01:42:33.000 What is that?

01:42:33.000 Yeah, what's that one?

01:42:34.000 More information.

01:42:36.000 I think it's going to be Kamala Harris.

01:42:36.000 SB 145.

01:42:38.000 I mean, I think at this point there's just no other option.

01:42:40.000 She's worse.

01:42:42.000 And it would have to be Malfeasance.

01:42:43.000 I don't know, but I could see Malfeasance and her getting elected.

01:42:45.000 It would just be so horrible.

01:42:46.000 Maybe.

01:42:49.000 Jason Dixon says, TimKast.com.

01:42:51.000 That's right, buddy.

01:42:52.000 TimKast.com.

01:42:54.000 Good job, Rob says, I'd love to say happy birthday to my wife, Jamie.

01:42:57.000 She's the most amazing mother, and I'm blessed to have her raising our children.

01:43:00.000 Thank you, TimKast.

01:43:01.000 Happy birthday.

01:43:03.000 Yeah, right on.

01:43:04.000 Cameron Keir says, honest question, who do you guys think is running the country?

01:43:09.000 It's certainly not the guy who crashed and burned on that debate stage.

01:43:12.000 I really don't think there is a centralized figure running the show.

01:43:16.000 I believe you have this, effectively, political elite class, we call the establishment or the uniparty.

01:43:23.000 But there is no one person in charge.

01:43:25.000 There are certainly people of various levels of influence.

01:43:28.000 And so what happens, I think certainly there are strong influence, like the Obamas being like, Joe, stop.

01:43:34.000 Joe for a while, watch his videos in 2020.

01:43:38.000 We thought that was bad back then, and it's kind of crazy.

01:43:40.000 You look at those videos back then and you can understand why I was saying like, no, I think Joe's in charge.

01:43:44.000 He's just, you know, his brain's no good.

01:43:46.000 Now it's like, okay, his brain is so no good, Jill's in charge.

01:43:50.000 Yeah, Jill and like Jeff Zients, his chief of staff.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, she's warm toned.

01:43:53.000 People who are around him every day and able to sort of be like, okay, now I need to talk about Well, if you look at, like, who was in his cabinet and who was brought in, he's very close to corporatists like BlackRock, you know, Larry Fink, but also like Jen Psaki and Blinken come from these, you know, these K Street consulting and advising firms.

01:44:15.000 And that's where the kind of, or I think the meat, you know, the process of the meat grinder

01:44:21.000 is like kind of like behind the scenes where it's made.

01:44:25.000 So I think like there's consultancies and they conspire with the DNC and they sort of

01:44:31.000 get these masterminds or, you know, we can debate how much of masterminds they really

01:44:36.000 are, but these corrupt people and they just get to the top and they represent coalitions

01:44:40.000 of corporate interests, essentially.

01:44:43.000 Hollywood is one, you know, like, you know, talent firms, unions, Ukrainian oil.

01:44:50.000 I mean, every political figure, every elected official is going to have a staff that they turn to to say, like, I need more information on this or, you know, whatever.

01:44:57.000 Like, it's not unreasonable they would be surrounded by people who have maybe expertise in areas they don't.

01:45:03.000 The problem with Biden is that he is dependent on them in a way that I don't think other people are.

01:45:08.000 And again, that speaks largely to the Well, three of his aides were just subpoenaed for allegedly doing presidential duties that Joe Biden should be doing.

01:45:19.000 It'll be interesting.

01:45:20.000 They're going to be in a deposition.

01:45:23.000 There wasn't a public hearing scheduled at this point, but I find that very interesting.

01:45:27.000 When did that go through?

01:45:27.000 When was that?

01:45:28.000 That was this week, House Oversight.

01:45:31.000 You know, as subpoenaed to deposition three of them.

01:45:35.000 I mean, and you brought up his cabinet.

01:45:37.000 You know, Lloyd Austin disappeared and was hospitalized and nobody knew, including the

01:45:42.000 I mean, this speaks both to a problem with the Department of Defense, but also to the

01:45:42.000 White House.

01:45:47.000 fact that no one thought it was even worth mentioning to Joe Biden.

01:45:50.000 Shows a lot of respect for leadership here.

01:45:51.000 Again, you know, he's come out and said, well, I had prostate cancer, so I don't want to

01:45:55.000 talk about it.

01:45:55.000 But he was in intensive care.

01:45:57.000 I mean, there's a serious question of who was leading that department.

01:46:01.000 and I think it's maybe reflective of his work environment.

01:46:03.000 Yes.

01:46:04.000 Did you see Lloyd Austin just sort of in awe at the NATO summit?

01:46:07.000 You know, Joe Biden's big boy speech, you know, press conference at the NATO summit and he's sitting there with Blinken and they're just in awe as he, you know, introduces Zelensky as President Putin.

01:46:19.000 Yeah.

01:46:20.000 It was rough.

01:46:20.000 It was not good.

01:46:21.000 And they're like, but you know, what's interesting is like some of this is inescapable.

01:46:24.000 And they're like, yeah, even mainstream progressive media is like, yeah, he did do that, didn't he?

01:46:30.000 They have to admit it's so obvious.

01:46:31.000 But I also saw, I know there's one opinion piece from the Miami Herald that came out

01:46:35.000 within the hour after it was over and said, you know, it went fine.

01:46:38.000 He didn't have any major gaffes.

01:46:40.000 And it was like, oh, so you've already picked, you pre-wrote this.

01:46:43.000 You didn't even watch the press conference.

01:46:45.000 Did you see Biden say that he's going to put South Korea and Japan back together?

01:46:50.000 And what was that all about?

01:46:51.000 I thought that was really creative.

01:46:52.000 He said, like, what am I doing?

01:46:53.000 Is that the point?

01:46:54.000 Yeah.

01:46:55.000 He's like, he's talking about a South Korea, what am I doing?

01:46:58.000 Based Japanese imperialist Joe Biden.

01:47:00.000 What am I doing?

01:47:02.000 Japan is like, excuse us?

01:47:03.000 What?

01:47:05.000 No, I think there are these moments.

01:47:06.000 I mean, like, everyone will stumble over words.

01:47:08.000 I forget names regularly.

01:47:09.000 There is a level of like, you don't want to take something that really is not a big deal in a lot of proportion.

01:47:14.000 Some of these big moments that he has as president of the United States to speak clearly to, I don't know, identify his vice president correctly, he just completely fumbles.

01:47:24.000 And I think there is no way for anyone to walk around the fact that he is reflecting badly both on the country, but also his administration.

01:47:31.000 Whoever is staffing him, whoever's in his here whispering must be just, you know, drinking heavily after he walks off stage.

01:47:38.000 We got this one from S.A.

01:47:39.000 Federale.

01:47:39.000 He says, are you guys sure about having Ian with a lotus eater?

01:47:42.000 I love you all, but this might convince Chuck that he needs to accelerate dissolving nationalism all over the West and declare Order 66.

01:47:48.000 Who's Chuck?

01:47:51.000 Prince Charles.

01:47:52.000 No, King Charles now.

01:47:53.000 Excuse me.

01:47:54.000 Well, no, again, if only.

01:47:57.000 King Charles is...

01:47:59.000 He is not as interested in the Five Eyes, he was one of the founding members of the World Economic Forum, so he's certainly interested in global politics and being a member of the managerial class, but he's not actively exerting any executive power.

01:48:14.000 If you think about it, he could just walk into Parliament with the army tomorrow and completely dissolve it and say, I'm taking over for a short time, fixing all the problems, then we're instituting Parliament afterwards.

01:48:23.000 And frankly, things are so bad in Britain right now, people would probably support it.

01:48:27.000 But he's not going to do that.

01:48:28.000 One, because he doesn't want to wield executive power, and two, because he's not on our side.

01:48:31.000 Yeah, I would think if he tried to do that, the Praetorian Guard would slaughter him, basically.

01:48:37.000 It's that stage of the Roman decline where the Praetorian Guard takes over and it's like, the four emperors in four years, basically, because none of them would do the right thing, do their bidding.

01:48:46.000 So I think that's basically where the British Empire is at right now, is they're like, the emperor's not in control anymore.

01:48:53.000 The Civil Service practically runs everything, kind of like an Eastern India trading company.

01:48:58.000 All right, let's grab this one from Nikosia Connection.

01:49:01.000 Biden isn't the issue, Democrats are.

01:49:03.000 Red wave in Brooklyn, New York, last presidential and governor elections.

01:49:07.000 New York's been in play.

01:49:09.000 Republican Party should have spent more time in the state.

01:49:12.000 NRA should foot lawyer bills for those in Rikers.

01:49:15.000 Free Dexter Taylor.

01:49:17.000 Isn't this something that Trump and a lot of Trump supporters talked about when he had the rally in the Bronx?

01:49:22.000 I mean, Democrats consistently think that they win the Bronx, but actually they don't go there at all.

01:49:27.000 They don't spend any time there.

01:49:28.000 They just assume these voters are captured and would never think of voting anything but blue.

01:49:34.000 And he had massive turnout there.

01:49:36.000 I mean, people were really excited to see him in this place that, again, Republicans don't always – I think I mentioned this earlier in the show, but I think there are times that Republicans could be more creative or more strategic and they sort of buy the Democrats' propaganda that things that are blue will always stay blue when Democrats don't treat that – don't say that about strictly red areas.

01:49:56.000 Well, New York's purportedly a battleground state.

01:49:58.000 I mean, that came out this week.

01:49:59.000 Trump's been saying that.

01:50:00.000 When I was at the New York Republicans gala last year, he was on stage being like, we're going to win New York!

01:50:05.000 And it was just the funniest thing.

01:50:06.000 I mean, I really think that if you had the mentality that if you are Trumpian enough or MAGA enough, you could potentially win all kinds of states that are written off, it would make a more interesting election.

01:50:19.000 People would, again, be forced to be a little creative when problem solving.

01:50:24.000 Wyatt Caldenberg says, it is not in my soul.

01:50:24.000 Let's go.

01:50:28.000 In a 2022 BBC interview, Michelle Obama also said she detests questions about running for president.

01:50:33.000 This is pretty clear.

01:50:34.000 Well, all right then.

01:50:36.000 All right then.

01:50:37.000 It's the thing that I sort of respect about her, which is like, she got her kid into Harvard, she made her money, she gets to do whatever she wants.

01:50:45.000 Like, you know, if you live a life of luxury and you aren't interested in any kind of service or any kind of power, then why would you become the President of the United States or the Prime Minister of a country?

01:50:56.000 Just to keep the Obama agenda going.

01:50:58.000 I mean, I think Obama agenda right now is to like drink mojitos and hang out.

01:51:02.000 I think Barack Obama's agenda is to still be a power broker behind the scenes.

01:51:06.000 And he's doing that.

01:51:06.000 They don't need to do anything differently.

01:51:08.000 Their lives are fine.

01:51:08.000 Send Valerie Jarrett out to have, you know, unscripted meetings in Delaware.

01:51:12.000 I'm sure George Clooney thought up that op-ed all on his own.

01:51:16.000 Also, not being funny, why would you waste your strongest weapon on an election where if this backfires on you, it looks really bad?

01:51:25.000 It's openly saying there's division.

01:51:27.000 Yeah.

01:51:28.000 OK, let's say they put Michelle Obama up for it.

01:51:28.000 Well, not even that.

01:51:31.000 Trump wins anyway.

01:51:33.000 How does the establishment have any credibility after that?

01:51:35.000 Like, if she was gonna run, she might as well wait another four years.

01:51:37.000 Mm-hmm.

01:51:38.000 I think so too.

01:51:40.000 We got Grant Nick.

01:51:40.000 Let's grab some more.

01:51:41.000 He says, Hey Timcast, we're working on a Freedom Truck idea.

01:51:44.000 Square body with Gaston, Gadsden, and American Flags in college for medicine.

01:51:49.000 And he says, Love y'all.

01:51:51.000 Doc in training.

01:51:52.000 Also likes wrenching.

01:51:53.000 Specialization is for insects.

01:51:56.000 That's awesome.

01:51:56.000 Well, okay.

01:51:57.000 Yeah.

01:51:58.000 I like that.

01:52:00.000 No, it should be, though.

01:52:00.000 This guy's saying he's going to be a doctor and also he could fix your car.

01:52:03.000 I mean, there are a lot of girls that this is like a prime man right now.

01:52:06.000 Yeah.

01:52:07.000 Mike, Mike Z's says, y'all mentioned how man is a social creature on Culture War.

01:52:07.000 All right.

01:52:12.000 Funny enough, the Bible says Adam was literally lonely.

01:52:15.000 God even giving Adam full reign to pick a mate.

01:52:17.000 Just think, we were one bad pick away from the furries getting what they wanted.

01:52:23.000 Just one guy and a bunch of animals?

01:52:25.000 Yeah, when you're the smartest guy in the room, sometimes it's very lonely.

01:52:28.000 It was a good cultural, though, this morning.

01:52:29.000 Yeah, Ian gets it.

01:52:30.000 Oh, okay, good.

01:52:33.000 Yeah, it was a really good show this morning.

01:52:34.000 Did you guys find out if Phil's a communist?

01:52:37.000 Phil said he now agrees with us on everything.

01:52:40.000 Did he actually say that?

01:52:40.000 That's hot.

01:52:41.000 He did, yeah.

01:52:42.000 He said, he said, I agree with all you guys' criticisms of liberalism, yeah.

01:52:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:52:46.000 Phil's a wonderful gentleman, and he's very humble, and we're all very persuasive with these accents, so.

01:52:51.000 Their only argument was one thing.

01:52:52.000 They were like, Phil, but you realize, this makes you a communist.

01:52:55.000 He was like, no, no, no, I agree with everything you said!

01:52:58.000 Anti-communist!

01:52:58.000 I am an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary!

01:53:01.000 And also, that was Phil's last show with Tim Katz for a little while, because he is going on tour, so you guys should go check him out.

01:53:06.000 Yes, dude!

01:53:06.000 Mega death!

01:53:07.000 Kill All Enemies Tour?

01:53:08.000 I don't really know.

01:53:09.000 Kill All Enemies!

01:53:10.000 But he says it every night and I know he's a... I will at least miss him.

01:53:13.000 Wow, that's gonna be hot.

01:53:14.000 We hope that he does a UK tour stop and comes and visits us.

01:53:18.000 Would you open for him?

01:53:19.000 Would you perform musically to open for him?

01:53:21.000 I cannot play any instruments.

01:53:22.000 Some of my colleagues can.

01:53:23.000 You're gonna have to get me very drunk to do any karaoke, I'm afraid.

01:53:26.000 Okay, Phil, you've heard it here first.

01:53:29.000 Deal.

01:53:30.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:53:35.000 I don't know what that is.

01:53:35.000 What is this?

01:53:36.000 Who do we have here?

01:53:37.000 It's Destroy All Enemies Tour, not Kill All Enemies Tour.

01:53:39.000 Yeah, Destroy All Enemies Tour.

01:53:40.000 Just destroy them.

01:53:41.000 Andrew Ho says, Musk voted Democrat in 2020.

01:53:45.000 It started when the Biden administration held a convention with all motor industry regarding EVs, but did not invite one company, the original Tesla.

01:53:51.000 Yup.

01:53:52.000 He got snubbed, and I think he tweeted something like, I don't understand.

01:53:55.000 We're leading the charge on this fighting carbon emissions and climate change.

01:53:59.000 Why are we being ignored?

01:54:00.000 And he said, I don't like you.

01:54:02.000 Yeah.

01:54:03.000 Yup.

01:54:04.000 They don't want to solve the problem.

01:54:05.000 They just want power.

01:54:07.000 But I think it's actually much more simple.

01:54:09.000 These other companies are in the fold.

01:54:11.000 And it wasn't so much that he didn't like Elon is that he's an outsider.

01:54:15.000 And so Elon is doing this hard work.

01:54:17.000 And he's like, we have like the premier EVs, everybody loves our brand, and you've excluded me.

01:54:21.000 And they're like, well, Biden's thinking I control these people.

01:54:25.000 Yeah, I don't control him.

01:54:26.000 He's not coming anywhere near me.

01:54:27.000 So then Elon was like, so be it.

01:54:30.000 I'd love to actually ask him about that.

01:54:31.000 That's how you know their cause is superficial and it's just of convenience.

01:54:36.000 It's a way to have an artificial market and to get the government grift.

01:54:40.000 Or to say, you know, they'll shut down a traditional car company or a traditional fossil fuel or coal mine or something like that.

01:54:49.000 Then they'll come in and be like, but now we're building an EV plant here and look at all these jobs we've created, not acknowledging the fact that they have actually destroyed a local economy.

01:54:56.000 And blocked nuclear power plants.

01:54:58.000 Right, you're right.

01:55:01.000 Yep.

01:55:02.000 All right.

01:55:02.000 SA Federal, he's back.

01:55:03.000 He says, anybody remember the 90s when Sun Micro and Oracle worked closely with Microsoft and the Delphi programming language was all an attempt at early AI?

01:55:12.000 Kind of like they told you it was an Apollo cult.

01:55:15.000 Hmm.

01:55:15.000 I don't know anything about it.

01:55:17.000 I was too young.

01:55:18.000 Do not know.

01:55:19.000 Do not know.

01:55:21.000 Andrew Ho says Obama was an intelligence plant.

01:55:23.000 His name is also Barry Sotero from his stepfather Lolo Sotero from Indonesia who was a millionaire and also a top CIA contractor there.

01:55:30.000 He has cousins with the Bush family.

01:55:32.000 Is that all true?

01:55:35.000 Oh, I didn't see that.

01:55:36.000 I don't know about that.

01:55:37.000 It's possible, but I need to see the receipts.

01:55:40.000 It's on the internet, so it must be true.

01:55:42.000 I need to see receipts, but that's a good theory.

01:55:44.000 Just need receipts.

01:55:45.000 Koby Skonard says, Hey Tim and Tim, I'm a CEO of a Milwaukee tech company.

01:55:49.000 We're on the cusp of the yellow-red zone for RNC.

01:55:52.000 Happy to host you for the week for Timcast IRL if you're looking for space.

01:55:55.000 We've got a big office.

01:55:56.000 We've got a space already.

01:55:57.000 Everything's set up.

01:55:58.000 Crew's already en route, I believe.

01:56:01.000 They're probably arriving very soon.

01:56:02.000 And then we're arriving first thing in the morning.

01:56:05.000 I'm not actually going in the RNC at all.

01:56:07.000 I'm just... But everyone's gonna be there, so, you know, we're gonna hang out, we're gonna have fun.

01:56:12.000 Definitely not going to the DNC, because I've grown quite fond of living.

01:56:17.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:56:18.000 I say that as a joke.

01:56:19.000 I don't know how bad it will be in Chicago.

01:56:21.000 I imagine there'll be riots in Chicago, such a raucous place as it is.

01:56:25.000 Look, man, I'm from there.

01:56:28.000 Me and my brother are getting off 290 onto Independence, and some guy driving by us just points a gun out the window and shoots at us.

01:56:35.000 When?

01:56:36.000 I don't know.

01:56:36.000 This is 15 years ago.

01:56:37.000 Oh my god.

01:56:38.000 But I mean, that's just Chicago.

01:56:40.000 It's not like you're getting shot at every day.

01:56:43.000 I think I've been in the vicinity of shootings five or six times, you know, of like, you know, actual attempts at killing.

01:56:52.000 It's a big city, too.

01:56:53.000 I was in the north side, like, uh, what is it, uh, up the brown line, you know, Lawrence and Damon area, and it was really nice.

01:57:00.000 I thought it was really nice.

01:57:01.000 Three years I lived up there.

01:57:02.000 It's been too long.

01:57:03.000 It's really cool.

01:57:04.000 I'm not, I wasn't a big north side guy.

01:57:05.000 Yeah, I never went to the south side.

01:57:07.000 It was like two different cities, kind of, in a lot of ways.

01:57:09.000 Oh, it's a massive place.

01:57:10.000 It's huge.

01:57:11.000 Yeah, but considering all the violence, the rioting, and the insanity that's expected, plus the police are... Yeah, sorry, Chicago, it's super corrupt.

01:57:19.000 The cops are super corrupt there.

01:57:20.000 Yeah, dirty cops.

01:57:21.000 There's like a video, I remember it was like 20 years ago, like, a meter maid gave a ticket to a squad car, because he was illegally parked and he wouldn't move, and then he grabbed her by the throat and slammed her up against the wall, because he's like, I'm a cop, I can do whatever I want.

01:57:35.000 Yeah, it's a dirty city.

01:57:36.000 Plus you had that guy who was electrocuting all those people to force confessions.

01:57:39.000 What was that guy's name?

01:57:41.000 Someone want to Google that?

01:57:42.000 Was he a cop?

01:57:43.000 Yeah.

01:57:44.000 Well, Chicago cops have been like that since daily.

01:57:46.000 I mean, you had the 68 convention, you know, the uprising, you know, with the yippies and all of that.

01:57:52.000 And, you know, one of the, you know, like a 17 year old pulled out a gun and, you know, they shot him dead and then they, The left turned him into a cause célèbre, so I guess that playbook's been around for a long time.

01:58:04.000 Chicago famously has the police run black sites.

01:58:07.000 These are seemingly abandoned buildings in the middle of nowhere where they take suspects to beat and torture.

01:58:13.000 Yeah, that's a story from truthout.org.

01:58:15.000 Chicago police tortured victims with electric shocks, burns, and... Yeah, what was his name?

01:58:19.000 I'm trying to find... I always forget his name.

01:58:20.000 Is this just gang?

01:58:21.000 Undercommitter John Burge?

01:58:23.000 Yeah, John Burge.

01:58:24.000 Burg or Burge?

01:58:24.000 B-U-R-G-E.

01:58:25.000 I think it's Burge.

01:58:26.000 Yeah.

01:58:27.000 Famous story.

01:58:28.000 I mean, internationally.

01:58:30.000 He would, mostly black suspects, he'd bring them in and be like, confess to the crime.

01:58:35.000 And they'd be like, I didn't do it.

01:58:36.000 And then he'd get a cattle prod and just say you did it.

01:58:39.000 And then eventually they'd be like, some of them refuse.

01:58:42.000 They're like, I'm not confessing to a crime I didn't commit, no matter what you do.

01:58:45.000 Some people just gave in.

01:58:46.000 And there was, I don't know if it was hundreds or thousands of innocent people in jail, in prison, because this guy was just Forcing confessions because they're evil people, dude.

01:58:56.000 So I've had my run-ins.

01:58:57.000 Not super excited to go to a place where you've got far leftists attacking people.

01:59:01.000 Then you've got communist police officers serving a communist government in the city.

01:59:06.000 I'm just not interested in being anywhere near that.

01:59:09.000 Like, I got no problem going to Chicago to see family and everything.

01:59:11.000 I do that all the time.

01:59:12.000 Yeah, the parks are really nice.

01:59:13.000 But not when the far left is engaging in a conflict with corrupt communist police officers and there's just this weird commie battle going on.

01:59:20.000 It's gonna be the most confusing DNC.

01:59:22.000 I don't even know what the hell's gonna happen.

01:59:24.000 Bring your popcorn.

01:59:25.000 I've had too much from afar.

01:59:27.000 All right, Colgate V1 says, if Magic the Gathering banned cards that they themselves named black for being racist, wouldn't that be them admitting they made a racist part of the game?

01:59:35.000 Different ownership.

01:59:37.000 They sold to Wizards of the Coast.

01:59:39.000 An independent skate truck company abandoned their logo after like 50 years because some leftist complained it looked like an Iron Cross, and that's racist, so they got rid of it, and now I own it.

01:59:51.000 Didn't Macklemore apologize for having a haircut that seemed too fascist or something?

01:59:55.000 I don't know, but I will take at every chance the opportunity to assert ownership over that symbol, which I declared several years ago and sold products, and let me grab it while we're here.

02:00:08.000 We should do an official black-on-white night.

02:00:10.000 What was that company's name that had that?

02:00:12.000 Yeah, what was that company's name again?

02:00:15.000 This is the TimCast Skate Company logo, if you ever see it anywhere.

02:00:19.000 We have been selling products for years.

02:00:21.000 We've publicly announced it on our show to tens of millions of people that this is our logo.

02:00:27.000 It is trademarked by us, the TimCast Skate Company.

02:00:27.000 We own it.

02:00:32.000 That's it.

02:00:32.000 You see?

02:00:33.000 See, this used to be the Independent Truck Company logo, but it was racist, so they got rid of it.

02:00:38.000 They've abandoned their logo, publicly stated they want nothing to do with it, and I immediately said, I'm using it.

02:00:43.000 It's mine.

02:00:46.000 We had a bunch of these boards made and sold, so what are you going to do?

02:00:51.000 I think, certainly at this point, what are they going to argue?

02:00:55.000 We've been using the logo.

02:00:57.000 And the funny thing is, if you go to some of the oldest skate parks in the world, you'll see that symbol up somewhere.

02:01:01.000 They slap the stickers around.

02:01:03.000 And this company was like, well...

02:01:06.000 We don't want to be called racist by a group of degenerates.

02:01:09.000 Let's abandon our corporate logo!

02:01:11.000 And I said I will humbly accept.

02:01:14.000 Thank you, Independent.

02:01:16.000 It is no longer your logo, and for now, I think we're going on two years of us having owned that symbol.

02:01:23.000 Beautiful.

02:01:23.000 What's a classic logo?

02:01:25.000 It's from, like, the 80s they had it.

02:01:27.000 Well before that.

02:01:27.000 You know what I think I'll do next?

02:01:28.000 I think I'm going to issue a more solid public statement and file with the U.S.

02:01:34.000 Trademark Office to make a more official assertion, because I'll be completely honest about how I view this.

02:01:40.000 They've abandoned this logo because they're scared of being racist.

02:01:43.000 So be it.

02:01:43.000 I will take it.

02:01:45.000 If they want to come out publicly and assert ownership of that logo, I welcome them to do it.

02:01:50.000 Please, come out and get into a public battle with me over who owns that logo.

02:01:55.000 I don't care who does.

02:01:56.000 Because I tell you, if it was like Steven Crowder who came out and said he owned it, we would both laugh a healthy chortle and cheers our Stein mugs together and drink beer and then have a joke about who actually owns it.

02:02:07.000 If a leftist organization wants to take it, they can have it.

02:02:10.000 Just gotta come here and you gotta assert it and make that argument.

02:02:13.000 I would love to see Independent Truck Company, one of the most iconic skate brands, publicly declare that is and will be their logo.

02:02:21.000 They removed it from their products, they removed it from their website, and they said, we disavow.

02:02:24.000 It's not even the Iron Cross.

02:02:25.000 It's such a crazy movie.

02:02:26.000 No, it's not.

02:02:27.000 You're right.

02:02:27.000 All right, everybody.

02:02:28.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us.

02:02:34.000 I gotta go get on a plane.

02:02:36.000 This is gonna be so brutal.

02:02:38.000 But, you know, we gotta do what we gotta do.

02:02:39.000 You can follow me on Axe on Instagram, at TimCast, and make sure you do that.

02:02:45.000 Again, become a member to support our work, but we'll see you out in the Midwest.

02:02:47.000 I look forward to eating cheese in Milwaukee.

02:02:49.000 Kyle, do you wanna shout anything out?

02:02:51.000 No, just shout out to everybody watching.

02:02:54.000 Thank you for tuning in and hearing the banner.

02:02:56.000 That's all I got to say.

02:02:57.000 All right.

02:02:58.000 Can I follow you somewhere?

02:02:59.000 Yeah, just x at Kyle N. A. Becker is great.

02:03:02.000 You know, I'm pretty active on there, so hopefully you like what you see.

02:03:07.000 Thank you very much for having me, Tim.

02:03:08.000 You can follow me at con underscore Tomlinson on Twitter.

02:03:11.000 You can find all of my work, including Tomlinson Talks, every Wednesday afternoon on lotuseaters.com.

02:03:16.000 I also appear on the New Culture Forum, write for a couple of magazines, and the like.

02:03:20.000 And I really enjoyed being here the past couple days.

02:03:22.000 Look forward to coming back to the States sometime.

02:03:25.000 It was an honor and a privilege to have you on three shows while you were here.

02:03:29.000 I really do appreciate you coming on.

02:03:30.000 I can't wait to sleep.

02:03:32.000 Yeah, Carl, he was done for the night.

02:03:34.000 Yeah, he was, yeah.

02:03:34.000 Are you guys going to the RNC?

02:03:36.000 No, no, no.

02:03:37.000 We're going home after this.

02:03:38.000 Well, I'm Ian Crossland.

02:03:39.000 Thanks for coming, everyone.

02:03:40.000 Follow me at iancrossland.

02:03:41.000 Anytime.

02:03:41.000 I want to give a special shout out to Surge, who's just crushing it over to my left over here.

02:03:45.000 Look at that guy's hair.

02:03:47.000 I mean, do you even have a camera on you anymore, Surge?

02:03:48.000 No, Surge is a secret.

02:03:49.000 Beautiful hair, by the way.

02:03:51.000 I mean, it really looks stunning, dude.

02:03:53.000 Serge is going to release his curl DIY, what products he uses very soon, probably on his personal Twitter account.

02:03:59.000 He's so mad that he doesn't have a mic right now to yell at me.

02:04:02.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Rimmel.

02:04:03.000 It's been great to have you both here.

02:04:05.000 You can find my work and all the work of the writers at scnr.com, at TimCastNews on Instagram, Twitter.

02:04:11.000 They're really great, and you should see what they're up to.

02:04:14.000 If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Twitter at HannahClaireB.

02:04:17.000 I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.B.

02:04:18.000 Thanks for everything you guys do.

02:04:19.000 Have a good night!

02:04:21.000 All right, everybody.

02:04:22.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:04:23.000 We're gonna be back.

02:04:24.000 We got clips throughout the weekend.

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