Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Democrats FURIOUS Over Kill Tony Puerto Rico Joke At Trump MSG Rally w-James O'Keefe | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:29.000 I think Jimmy Carter also accepted the nomination in the late 70s.

00:00:34.000 So it's not particularly weird at all that a political rally would be held at Madison Square Garden.

00:00:40.000 But of course, MSNBC is saying that it was a Nazi rally and the Democrats are all running out screaming that Trump is Hitler.

00:00:45.000 I guess that's the October surprise because that's the only thing they have eight days out from the election.

00:00:51.000 But OK, whatever.

00:00:52.000 But anyway, at that rally, Tony Hinchcliffe of Kill Tony made several off color jokes.

00:00:59.000 And everybody's mad about it.

00:01:00.000 Actually, a bunch of Republicans are mad about it. 0.62

00:01:02.000 But I think all the middle of the road people who are supporting Trump really don't care that Tony Hinchcliffe said that there's an island of garbage in the middle of the ocean.

00:01:12.000 I think it's called Puerto Rico.

00:01:13.000 He's making a joke.

00:01:15.000 It's averting your expectations.

00:01:16.000 They're losing their minds over this.

00:01:18.000 And, well, I think it's all they've got.

00:01:21.000 It's kind of sad that it's all they got.

00:01:23.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:24.000 Then we've got this crazy story out of Portland and Washington where ballot boxes were torched.

00:01:29.000 This time, it's legit.

00:01:30.000 There's video from local news outlets.

00:01:32.000 Somebody threw explosives in a ballot box.

00:01:34.000 I can only imagine more shenanigans is going to be happening like this.

00:01:37.000 A bunch of court rulings have come in about whether or not mail-in votes can be accepted.

00:01:41.000 Of course, in Mississippi, we got the ruling that if the ballot comes day of or after, I'm sorry, if the ballot comes after, even if it's postmark day of, No good.

00:01:49.000 It's illegal.

00:01:50.000 But now Nevada is saying, actually, if it's not done properly, it can be brought in within three days of the election.

00:01:56.000 And in Pennsylvania, Republicans lost.

00:01:58.000 They're now saying, like, even if the ballot's not done properly, you can still count it.

00:02:01.000 So we're going to talk about all that stuff, my friends.

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00:04:03.000 And we're going to have that members-only show, where tonight James O'Keefe will sing Plush by Stone Temple Pilots on the...

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00:04:12.000 So, of course, smash the like button, share the show, leave us a good review if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, and obviously joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else, it's James O'Keefe.

00:04:22.000 Hello, Tim.

00:04:23.000 James, who are you?

00:04:24.000 A lot to talk about.

00:04:24.000 Hello.

00:04:25.000 A lot going on in the world.

00:04:26.000 Yeah, you're going to be covering Plush by Stone Temple Pilots.

00:04:30.000 I'm excited mostly about that.

00:04:31.000 I love music and dancing and joy.

00:04:35.000 You're not allowed to do that.

00:04:35.000 Well, it's not allowed.

00:04:36.000 Not allowed.

00:04:37.000 Yeah, a lot of...

00:04:37.000 Not allowed.

00:04:39.000 You've had a couple of really big stories recently, and one of them was that some election official was yelling at you for dancing.

00:04:43.000 Yeah, that was the video.

00:04:45.000 It's not the real story, but...

00:04:46.000 No, but it's always the reaction to the action that's actually the most interesting.

00:04:50.000 And this is in Maricopa County.

00:04:52.000 We have like 200 people recording inside poll locations.

00:04:56.000 And the story wasn't even that big of a story.

00:05:00.000 It was just I wanted them to know that we're on the inside.

00:05:03.000 And the Maricopa County election officials like freaked out and one of them started attacking the fact that I dance.

00:05:10.000 Well, have you considered not dancing?

00:05:12.000 No.

00:05:13.000 It's just completely bizarre.

00:05:15.000 You can moonwalk really well.

00:05:17.000 I can moonwalk.

00:05:18.000 I can breakdance.

00:05:19.000 But a lot of Republicans don't like this about me.

00:05:19.000 I've done Oklahoma.

00:05:22.000 I don't understand why they were attacking the Democratic Convention.

00:05:25.000 They were dancing.

00:05:26.000 Since when?

00:05:27.000 Communists attack dancing.

00:05:29.000 So I don't quite understand that one.

00:05:31.000 But then you've got another movie coming out.

00:05:32.000 Or you have a movie that came out already, I believe, right?

00:05:33.000 Line in the Sand.

00:05:34.000 Line in the Sand is a big one.

00:05:36.000 And it took me a year so we can talk about that.

00:05:38.000 We gotta talk about it because I was getting riled up watching it.

00:05:41.000 I'll just say it before we move on to Ian, of course.

00:05:43.000 When you showed all of these people who know they're doing something wrong, and you can see the look on their face, and they always respond with, well, I'm just doing my job, which literally translates to, I know what I'm doing is wrong.

00:05:56.000 I mean, it's crazy.

00:05:57.000 Yeah, I'd like to talk about that.

00:05:58.000 Bringing in trafficking.

00:05:58.000 We'll get into all this stuff.

00:05:59.000 Ian's hanging out.

00:06:00.000 Yeah, I guess it makes you a quintuple threat.

00:06:02.000 You're a musician, actor, dancer, director, and journalist.

00:06:06.000 That's maybe why.

00:06:07.000 And DJ. Oh, and DJ. A sextuple threat to my right over here.

00:06:11.000 James O'Keefe, ladies and gentlemen.

00:06:12.000 Happy to be here, guys.

00:06:13.000 Ian Crossland in the house.

00:06:14.000 Let's rock and roll, Mary. 0.97

00:06:15.000 Big fan of oligarchy, by the way.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, that one's a bop. 0.72

00:06:18.000 Oh, you know that one? 0.72

00:06:19.000 I like that.

00:06:20.000 I should introduce myself, though.

00:06:21.000 My name is Mary.

00:06:22.000 You will usually find me on a show called Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast, but I'm happy to be back on IRL. James just lit up.

00:06:30.000 He's like, you know my song.

00:06:31.000 I just want to talk about music the whole time.

00:06:33.000 We can do that.

00:06:34.000 Let's do that.

00:06:35.000 Is that a Gen Z term?

00:06:38.000 Bob, well, it's actually gone through an evolution where it kind of means the same thing as thought now.

00:06:42.000 Is it like The Riz?

00:06:43.000 It used to mean a really good song.

00:06:45.000 The Riz? 0.90

00:06:45.000 Okay. 0.90

00:06:46.000 Not the same thing.

00:06:48.000 I don't even know these Gen Z terms.

00:06:49.000 You have the riz.

00:06:50.000 You're old.

00:06:51.000 That means charisma.

00:06:52.000 Are you feeling the riz?

00:06:53.000 I am feeling the riz.

00:06:55.000 Every time he walks in the room, yeah.

00:06:57.000 Also, you, Mary.

00:06:58.000 You got the riz as well.

00:06:58.000 You're holding it down.

00:07:00.000 All right, let's jump to the first story.

00:07:01.000 We've got this from the BBC. Backlash after a comedian at Trump rally calls Puerto Rico an island of garbage. 0.99

00:07:08.000 Tony Hinchcliffe is a hilarious guy. 0.98

00:07:09.000 Kill Tony is a massive show.

00:07:10.000 It's wildly successful. 0.69

00:07:11.000 And it's ridiculous that they're... 0.54

00:07:13.000 You know what this is? 0.92

00:07:14.000 Let me just put it this way.

00:07:15.000 They can't go after Dave Chappelle in much the same way.

00:07:17.000 He's too big.

00:07:18.000 They try to go after Joe Rogan, but he's too big.

00:07:22.000 Tony's relatively new.

00:07:24.000 I don't want to act like he's just completely new, but Kill Tony is skyrocketing.

00:07:28.000 It's not Dave Chappelle levels yet, but he did sell out Madison Square Garden, I think twice.

00:07:32.000 So they're banking off of people not knowing who he is.

00:07:35.000 What they're doing now is Tony Hinchcliffe opens this rally with comedy.

00:07:39.000 He rags on everybody.

00:07:40.000 It's what comedians do.

00:07:43.000 But you now see Geraldo Rivera.

00:07:44.000 You see the view. 0.99

00:07:45.000 They're trying to make it seem like Donald Trump himself called Puerto Rico an island of garbage. 0.98

00:07:51.000 But let me play for you what Tony actually said. 0.98

00:07:54.000 It is absolutely wild times.

00:07:58.000 It really, really is.

00:08:01.000 And, you know, there's a lot going on.

00:08:04.000 Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now.

00:08:10.000 Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico.

00:08:14.000 Okay, alright.

00:08:15.000 He got mixed laughing and jeers.

00:08:18.000 A bunch of Republicans are actually mad about this too.

00:08:21.000 They're saying that it's a mistake in the 11th hour to bring out an insult comic at the biggest political rally to close out your campaign by insulting everyone.

00:08:31.000 It's gonna get weaponized.

00:08:34.000 I don't know.

00:08:36.000 He does the roasts.

00:08:39.000 It strikes me as a roast comic.

00:08:41.000 Is that the appropriate place for a roast comic?

00:08:43.000 I don't know.

00:08:44.000 It's unconventional, right?

00:08:46.000 Do you think it was a mistake to have this guy at a political rally?

00:08:49.000 It's a tough call.

00:08:50.000 Tony, I mean, geez, it is, he's like the hardest core, not hardcore comedian.

00:08:57.000 I think this was Barron.

00:08:59.000 Barron was like, you gotta get Tony Inchcliffe.

00:09:01.000 Barron, so, we've been saying for a long time, like, Trump needs to go on Kill Tony, but that's different.

00:09:01.000 Yep.

00:09:07.000 That's Trump ragging on people, too.

00:09:09.000 That's him sitting around with a bunch of guys and everyone's making jokes.

00:09:12.000 I think what happens is they're like, okay, well, we don't got time.

00:09:15.000 It's the campaign. 0.62

00:09:16.000 Barron probably said, kill Tony is huge.

00:09:18.000 Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, you got to do these shows.

00:09:21.000 And so they said, let's get Tony Hinchcliffe to do comedy at Madison Square Garden.

00:09:25.000 And I thought it was hilarious.

00:09:27.000 I thought it was funny.

00:09:28.000 I heard this before the backlash.

00:09:30.000 And I just laughed.

00:09:31.000 And after that, he's like, oh, okay, you're getting it now.

00:09:33.000 I'm not used to following the national anthem.

00:09:35.000 Right.

00:09:35.000 And it's like, it's Tony, you know, I'm doing his Tony...

00:09:38.000 Maybe it was a...

00:09:39.000 Maybe it was a...

00:09:40.000 I don't know if you'd call it a mistake, but maybe it's like you don't have a roast insult comic right before the most heated political...

00:09:47.000 Yeah, I guess the argument is, if it costs Trump even a single vote, was it worth it?

00:09:52.000 And, like, Trump can't get any more famous, so, like, drawing eyeballs isn't...

00:09:55.000 But I don't think it hurt him or help him. 0.97

00:09:57.000 I mean, remember in 2016 how saying, as Joe Rogan pointed out, saying all that crazy shit kind of actually helped him because it made him more authentic. 0.68

00:10:05.000 So I don't think it helps him lose a vote or gain a vote. 0.94

00:10:09.000 I think it keeps...

00:10:10.000 I kind of feel like anybody who's planning on voting for Trump because World War III is about to start or because they can't afford grocery bills is not going to be swayed by an opening comic making an off-color joke.

00:10:20.000 But more importantly, is the joke funny?

00:10:23.000 It's an insult.

00:10:24.000 It's a roast joke.

00:10:25.000 Are these roast things funny?

00:10:28.000 If it's funny, that means it has a seed of truth in it.

00:10:31.000 Have you seen this guy roast Kim Kardashian?

00:10:33.000 I'm not even going to say it on the air what he said, but have you seen what he said at these roasts?

00:10:37.000 I'm not saying it.

00:10:38.000 So I'm doing Tom Brady really hard.

00:10:40.000 You can play it.

00:10:40.000 Yeah, you can play it.

00:10:42.000 I don't know that it's necessarily so much that it has to have a seed of truth.

00:10:46.000 I think it was a subversion of expectation, right?

00:10:50.000 There's a lot going on, and you think he's talking about the Pacific garbage patch, and then he says, Puerto Rico!

00:10:55.000 And that's more like ribbing on your buddy. 0.76

00:10:58.000 Like, if I say Ian's like a crazy hippie, you know, it's like an exaggeration of what Ian actually is or whatever, to whatever degree.

00:11:04.000 Like, if we mention Ian's doing DMT or whatever, Ian actually doesn't do DMT, he just looks like it.

00:11:08.000 I have done DMT. So it's not that it's true to say, like, Ian snorts graphene.

00:11:14.000 It's not true.

00:11:15.000 It's just true that Ian likes it, and so we're making fun of him by hyper-exaggerating what it is that he does.

00:11:19.000 You don't want to breathe that stuff in, though.

00:11:20.000 No, you don't.

00:11:21.000 But the thing is, Puerto Rico wasn't in the room to defend himself.

00:11:24.000 Who is this Puerto Rican Trump supporter in the crowd who's like, that's it, I'm throwing down my MAGA hat, I'm done. 0.99

00:11:30.000 They're still going to vote for Trump.

00:11:32.000 It's not a person that exists.

00:11:34.000 Yeah.

00:11:34.000 Am I allowed to play this clip of him roasting if it's a little obscene?

00:11:38.000 I just texted it to you.

00:11:39.000 What is it?

00:11:40.000 Quote, if liberals can't handle a little comedy from a comedian, this will surely melt their minds.

00:11:45.000 It's him at this roast.

00:11:46.000 It's a minute and a half long.

00:11:47.000 I watched it.

00:11:48.000 It's a roast comedy, you know?

00:11:51.000 Well, maybe if we don't know what it is, considering we're a week out from the election.

00:11:55.000 It's a little raunchy.

00:11:56.000 Well, then we'll save it for the members only after you sing Plush by Stone Temple Pilots.

00:12:00.000 Sounds good.

00:12:01.000 He's going to sing.

00:12:01.000 I'm not kidding.

00:12:02.000 I'm going to sing.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, we played it before the show.

00:12:04.000 I got it.

00:12:04.000 I got on lock on the guitar.

00:12:06.000 You know, the the let me pull up the Polymarket, actually.

00:12:09.000 So Polymarket is the closest you can get to real time sentiment or predictions.

00:12:13.000 And Trump's at 66 percent to win.

00:12:16.000 I don't think anyone cares.

00:12:18.000 You know, and look, no disrespect to Tony.

00:12:20.000 I don't think anyone cares.

00:12:22.000 They're desperately trying to make this an issue to care about.

00:12:24.000 And what I'm seeing is, like, the Krasensteins, of course, they were like, oh, I can't believe he would make this joke.

00:12:29.000 And I'm like, bro, are you kidding?

00:12:30.000 And then one of them responded, what would I say if Kamala Harris had a comic who came out and said something shocking and off-putting?

00:12:39.000 I don't know.

00:12:40.000 How about this?

00:12:43.000 Donald Trump said he was going to build a wall.

00:12:47.000 And George Lopez said...

00:12:50.000 You better build it in one day because if you leave that material out there overnight...

00:12:54.000 What's going to happen, George?

00:12:58.000 What's going to happen?

00:13:00.000 What happens if you leave your material right on the Mexican border?

00:13:03.000 Right.

00:13:03.000 What's the implication there, George?

00:13:05.000 Are you implying it's going to be stolen?

00:13:06.000 This is a Harris Waltz rally in Arizona.

00:13:09.000 And yes, literally the joke is that Mexicans will steal your stuff. 0.88

00:13:13.000 I don't care! 0.95

00:13:15.000 That was a good joke.

00:13:16.000 Yeah, I know! 0.76

00:13:17.000 Cancel that white lady in the back who's laughing. 1.00

00:13:19.000 Oh, wait, whoa, there's a white lady laughing? 1.00

00:13:21.000 There's two of them!

00:13:22.000 Two! 0.99

00:13:23.000 No, three! 0.99

00:13:25.000 Cancel them, now! 0.54

00:13:27.000 And lookit, she's covering her face because she knows she's going to get cancelled for laughing. 1.00

00:13:31.000 This is it.

00:13:33.000 The view goes on this extended tirade where they're freaking out.

00:13:37.000 And Sonny Hostin is like, this Puerto Rican Donald Trump believes that Puerto Rico is beautiful.

00:13:42.000 And it's like, Trump didn't even say it.

00:13:44.000 The Trump campaign said the joke does not represent their campaign or whatever.

00:13:48.000 And I think, you know what, man?

00:13:52.000 Maybe the appropriate response from the Trump campaign would have been to just respond by saying, and I quote, Donald Trump said he was going to build a wall.

00:14:02.000 And George Lopez said, you better build it in one day, because if you leave that material out there overnight.

00:14:08.000 That's just should have been the exact response with the quote and the video and been like, here you go.

00:14:18.000 So they're acting like they're mad at Trump.

00:14:20.000 It's just fake.

00:14:21.000 It's all fake.

00:14:22.000 Yeah, it's all fake and people want authenticity and they're reading between the lines and that's why Trump's doing so well, just like he did in 2016.

00:14:29.000 But you have Republicans coming out being like, oh, I can't believe that.

00:14:32.000 Because I think those Republicans crave to be liked by the powers that be.

00:14:36.000 It's an opportunity to get your name in the New York Times and it's an incentive for you to be, you know, get a little dig in on your friends.

00:14:43.000 I imagine, too, these Republicans don't dance.

00:14:46.000 Definitely they'll dance.

00:14:48.000 Why are you dancing?

00:14:50.000 Why are you singing?

00:14:50.000 Stick to politics.

00:14:52.000 You had a guy say that to you?

00:14:53.000 That's my voice for women and critics.

00:14:57.000 Who are these people that hate your music career?

00:15:00.000 I think a lot of people don't like that I sing and dance.

00:15:03.000 I did this musical, Oklahoma, and people were just viciously attacked.

00:15:07.000 Be serious.

00:15:07.000 People really understand, journalism is an art.

00:15:10.000 Like, I don't think you could be a very good storyteller without having a kind of a rhythm and a sense of music and timing and cadence and all these things.

00:15:18.000 So we need more dancing and singing, in my opinion, in politics. 0.74

00:15:23.000 But you don't see that very often.

00:15:24.000 I think that's 100%.

00:15:25.000 That's, God willing, what I've been doing on this show for four years, just lightening it up a little bit because it's so easy to get angry and forget.

00:15:33.000 I think a lot of cultures have said that the canaries in the coal mine, when it comes to the political violence in the political realm, is the comedians.

00:15:40.000 If the comedians start to get demonized, you're in a world of hurt.

00:15:43.000 You're in a real world of hurt.

00:15:44.000 We've been there for a long time.

00:15:45.000 You can see people trying to do it.

00:15:47.000 They tried to demonize Rogan with the whole horse-paced stuff, CNN, and he kind of just watered off a duck's back, kept moving forward because he's a strong man and you need people to be able to weather this stuff and not self-cancel and be like, I'm sorry, I won't make jokes anymore.

00:16:01.000 So this is kind of a moment for Tony and all the people around Tony are like, what are we going to do?

00:16:06.000 I think he's insulated and in a safe and strong enough position where he can keep doing what he does and not take it personally.

00:16:12.000 AOC was on a stream with Tim Waltz, and I'll just play a little bit of it for you because no one really wants to hear them talk for a long time.

00:16:20.000 Let's try and get it to play.

00:16:23.000 We're getting there.

00:16:25.000 Who is that jackwad?

00:16:27.000 Who is that guy?

00:16:27.000 Actually, I think that's Tony Hinchcliffe, which is super disappointing.

00:16:31.000 I mean, he's a comedian.

00:16:33.000 What's disappointing about it?

00:16:35.000 Everybody knows what Tony does.

00:16:37.000 That's why he was invited to do comedy here.

00:16:39.000 What is she disappointed about?

00:16:40.000 Um...

00:16:41.000 I don't follow this, like, crew very closely.

00:16:43.000 This issue with Puerto Rico, again, I saw it.

00:16:45.000 This was what, when he went down after Helene, the horrific hurricane people that Rico, it was absolutely horrific.

00:16:53.000 Down there insulting people, throwing it.

00:16:55.000 Look, I know that the folks who are on here today understand this.

00:16:59.000 People in Puerto Rico are citizens.

00:17:01.000 They pay taxes and they serve in the military at almost a higher rate than anybody else.

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:05.000 I mean, it's like super upsetting.

00:17:06.000 Obviously, it's super upsetting to me.

00:17:08.000 My family is from Puerto Rico.

00:17:10.000 I'm Puerto Rican.

00:17:10.000 And like...

00:17:13.000 You see, here's the point I want to make by showing this.

00:17:15.000 She knows she's in a difficult position to communicate to young people why you can't have fun and make jokes.

00:17:21.000 Yeah, there's an element of artifice in politics.

00:17:25.000 And we turn the channel and watch a raunchy show and it's acceptable.

00:17:30.000 So that's the thing.

00:17:31.000 There's a lack of equilibrium between these different platforms.

00:17:34.000 That's why I don't think this stuff really matters.

00:17:36.000 I think that people are just, they just can't pay for groceries and Right.

00:17:40.000 But I think beyond that, if you're 18 or 19 and you're not even necessarily in the workforce yet, maybe you're still in school, you're listening to Rogan and you're laughing.

00:17:51.000 You're goofing off. 0.53

00:17:52.000 These young guys are going out and they're whacking each other in the balls and then laughing about it. 0.98

00:17:56.000 They're taking their towels and then whipping each other and goofing. 0.97

00:17:59.000 And she's going like, oh, it's really disappointing and upsetting to hear this.

00:18:02.000 But I feel like the reason she's not doing the heavy outrage like The View is doing is because she knows she's supposed to be Democrats communicating to younger people who are going to respond with, are you really mad about this, AOC? Do you think she actually believes what she's saying?

00:18:17.000 No, absolutely not.

00:18:19.000 That's the problem.

00:18:19.000 It's a lack of authenticity.

00:18:20.000 She has to mix, I'm a Democrat, so I have to be mad, with, I'm also a young person and I'm supposed to be edgy.

00:18:26.000 And you just, that's why she's like, mm, it's upsetting, mm, yeah.

00:18:29.000 Yeah, because she probably loves Tony. 0.59

00:18:31.000 I get the vibe that she thinks he's hilarious as a comedian, and now she's like, oh, I gotta crap on this guy?

00:18:37.000 It's Hinchcliffe.

00:18:38.000 He sold out Madison Square Garden twice, and she's going to rag on him? 0.98

00:18:42.000 She's screwed in New York.

00:18:43.000 In this same interview, they're talking about how, did you hear there was an Ebola outbreak after Trump worked at McDonald's? 0.99

00:18:48.000 Oh yeah, he got Ebola on his hands.

00:18:50.000 Like, joking about offensive stuff that's not true, and they were joking.

00:18:56.000 And that's okay to do.

00:18:57.000 Yeah, in the same interview with these two dudes.

00:18:59.000 He's on Twitch too, right?

00:19:01.000 I don't know.

00:19:02.000 AOC has a Twitch channel.

00:19:04.000 Like, this is the world we live in.

00:19:05.000 And she's streaming with Tim Waltz.

00:19:08.000 And then Tim Waltz said something about how she can run a mean pick six, and all of these football fans got really mad because they were like, that doesn't mean anything.

00:19:16.000 But I don't know anything about football, so I can't fact check it.

00:19:18.000 Pick six?

00:19:20.000 Yeah, I have no idea.

00:19:22.000 Is that not a basketball term?

00:19:24.000 The Mountain Dew next to him, the picture of him about to do the stream, it was just like, yuck.

00:19:30.000 Oh, that was so gross.

00:19:31.000 What's he drinking that stuff for?

00:19:33.000 I mean, having the gaming controller...

00:19:37.000 Okay, fine.

00:19:38.000 I get it.

00:19:39.000 This is a Twitch stream.

00:19:40.000 But the Mountain Dew next to him, it was just like you jumped the shark with that one.

00:19:44.000 So here we go.

00:19:45.000 We've got this tweet from Mary L. Trump.

00:19:48.000 And it wasn't just her.

00:19:48.000 It was MSNBC actually played footage from the 1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden.

00:19:55.000 She says, so we're really doing this again.

00:19:57.000 Eyes wide open.

00:19:59.000 And it's just Trump's rally in New York.

00:20:01.000 These are New Yorkers!

00:20:02.000 These are people who are overwhelmingly—like, these people at this rally are probably moderates.

00:20:06.000 And then she shows an image of the Nazi rally in 1939.

00:20:10.000 We got this tweet from Aaron Rugenberg.

00:20:12.000 He says, This is it.

00:20:19.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the October surprise has dropped. 0.93

00:20:21.000 Trump is Hitler.

00:20:22.000 I can't believe it. 0.81

00:20:24.000 Reductio ad Hitlerium. 0.89

00:20:25.000 Is that what they call it? 0.89

00:20:27.000 Because Hitler is the only example of evil that the left has. 0.92

00:20:30.000 So everything that's bad is Hitler. 0.87

00:20:32.000 Yeah.

00:20:33.000 I never saw this coming.

00:20:35.000 I can't believe that.

00:20:35.000 If I knew Trump was Hitler, I wouldn't have been supporting him this whole time.

00:20:39.000 But, you know, now we're here, and apparently, if you hold a political rally, it's a Nazi rally.

00:20:44.000 The Democrats held a rally in 1992, and I think 78?

00:20:49.000 I think they did it a lot, actually.

00:20:50.000 Actually, they also had one in 1924, where they were trying to figure out whether to approve of the Ku Klux Klan.

00:20:56.000 So...

00:20:58.000 This is modern politics for you, I guess.

00:21:00.000 I suppose it's indicative of Trump winning if they've got nothing to go after him on.

00:21:04.000 I think they're freaking out.

00:21:06.000 Yeah.

00:21:07.000 I think they're freaking out.

00:21:08.000 Yeah.

00:21:08.000 I wouldn't have said that a few weeks ago, but I usually say it's 50-50 odds, but I think they're freaking out.

00:21:13.000 And all this stuff helps them.

00:21:15.000 Like I said, there's a lack of artifice in politics, and people want sincerity, and they're tired of the BS. That's just the way the American people are right now.

00:21:24.000 So all these tactics are probably going to help them, I would think.

00:21:27.000 Do you think, so in the past couple of weeks, we've seen Trump, he's now winning nationally.

00:21:31.000 He's up by like 0.1.

00:21:33.000 So it's margin of error territory, but he does have the lead of the national polls.

00:21:37.000 And there's now some speculating that he could win the popular vote and the Electoral College.

00:21:42.000 I wonder, why do you think that is?

00:21:45.000 I mean, the number one issues right now are economics and immigration.

00:21:48.000 You just did this film exploring the issue.

00:21:51.000 I'm wondering if you think...

00:21:53.000 It kind of feels like when Kamala did this press tour and she couldn't speak and then just called Trump Hitler over and over again, that's when things started to shift.

00:22:02.000 But I'm wondering if people ever actually thought Kamala could deal with a border crisis or an economic crisis at all.

00:22:07.000 Yeah, I mean, the film, we approached it from a humanitarian crisis.

00:22:10.000 That's how I approached it.

00:22:11.000 So a lot of times the left says, you know, close the borders is anti-immigrant.

00:22:16.000 But we approached it, these people are being taken advantage of, which kind of inverted the whole thing on its head.

00:22:21.000 And everyone seemed to be making money off of it, too.

00:22:23.000 It was the corruption that we exposed in the film.

00:22:27.000 Everyone's making money off this crisis.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:22:29.000 Those two guys were like, I get a good job, you know?

00:22:32.000 Everyone's getting paid off.

00:22:34.000 So that's not really a left or right thing.

00:22:37.000 That's just a corrupt thing.

00:22:38.000 And are you pro-corruption or are you anti-corruption?

00:22:43.000 That's how it's framed.

00:22:44.000 Yeah, but everybody these days are pro – like not everybody, but a lot of people are pro-corruption.

00:22:48.000 I don't think people even see it that way.

00:22:51.000 So first you have to describe the problem precisely.

00:22:54.000 You got 300,000 missing kids.

00:22:56.000 A lot of those kids get trafficked or raped or put with sponsors.

00:23:01.000 We don't know where the children are.

00:23:02.000 And in the film, you actually see these little girls all alone in the desert.

00:23:06.000 It becomes very real, very real very fast, and it's emotionally overwhelming to people.

00:23:12.000 So I don't think that's a right wing or left wing.

00:23:15.000 I think that's just, do you want to save these kids?

00:23:18.000 Do you want to stop the humanitarian crisis?

00:23:20.000 And put that way, you got to reform it.

00:23:23.000 You can't have open borders.

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:27.000 You were saying girls are getting put alone in the desert? 0.89

00:23:30.000 Yeah, so in this film, Line in the Sand, it's a real unscripted documentary, and we actually see little girls all alone wandering around.

00:23:39.000 The real people that we encountered at the border wall without parents, and they're drugged.

00:23:47.000 And they're put in these homes with what they're calling sponsors.

00:23:51.000 But unlike the foster care system, they don't vet who the sponsor is in the United States.

00:23:58.000 So there's a lot of trafficking of people.

00:24:00.000 And this is as a result of this open border situation.

00:24:06.000 that and the film uh there's a few moments in the film that people were crying pretty wild yeah i feel like this is largely why we see i suppose in a more in more in depth the trump popularity or the mega movement or whatever i see this corruption and at the root of it going outside of economics and immigration there's a part in the film where there are these two border guards and They're border guards, right?

00:24:31.000 These two guys.

00:24:31.000 They're talking about how much money they make.

00:24:33.000 They're like $28.50.

00:24:33.000 Yes.

00:24:34.000 Is that what it was?

00:24:35.000 $28.50.

00:24:36.000 Yes, exactly.

00:24:36.000 And they're like, this problem's not going away.

00:24:37.000 We're getting paid.

00:24:38.000 Yeah.

00:24:39.000 And you basically, there's another scene where there's a woman driving a bus, and she's just like, I'm just doing what my job is.

00:24:46.000 I'm just doing my job.

00:24:47.000 But they say it in a way where you can hear the actual translation of, I know I am doing something wrong.

00:24:53.000 So this is a really fascinating it's a biblical and it's a tale as old as time.

00:25:00.000 But at what point does being weak make you evil?

00:25:04.000 And throughout this film, all these people, police officers, border patrol agents, border patrol agents are literally facilitating the trafficking of the people.

00:25:15.000 They don't do any law enforcement, the border patrol.

00:25:17.000 The cartel says we're sending 1,000 people over.

00:25:20.000 The border patrol says, okay, we'll process them.

00:25:23.000 So a lot of these border patrol agents have become alcoholics, suicidal.

00:25:27.000 And at the end of the film, we meet this border patrol agent who's heroic and he blows the whistle.

00:25:31.000 His name is Zachary.

00:25:33.000 And he's crying.

00:25:34.000 He's in his patrol vehicle.

00:25:36.000 This is like the ending of the film.

00:25:37.000 But Tim, it's remarkable to see all these people saying, if we stop the border crisis, then I can't feed my family because I don't have a paycheck.

00:25:47.000 Now that's wild.

00:25:48.000 That's like saying, I need to facilitate the child trafficking so that I can feed my children.

00:25:54.000 I feel like this is not just within immigration crisis, but everything across the country.

00:26:00.000 And I think we're getting to the point where people are just saying, we can't live like this.

00:26:03.000 We need people of honor who are going to say, you know, I look at this much like bribery.

00:26:09.000 So I heard a story from Kim.com.

00:26:11.000 He told a funny story about how he was driving through Russia, and you get pulled over, and it's like the bribes are expected.

00:26:16.000 He was basically saying that.

00:26:18.000 You get pulled over to the cops.

00:26:18.000 They don't care about what's just or what's not.

00:26:21.000 You give them a bribe.

00:26:22.000 Have you guys been watching Penguin?

00:26:24.000 You've seen Penguin?

00:26:25.000 Oh, you're not watching Penguin, your pop culture crisis?

00:26:27.000 The movie or the show?

00:26:28.000 The show.

00:26:28.000 I didn't know there was a show.

00:26:30.000 It's really good.

00:26:30.000 It's on Max.

00:26:32.000 And there's a scene where this dude's got money.

00:26:34.000 A cop stops him.

00:26:36.000 And the cop says, that's a lot of money for a young person.

00:26:38.000 And the kid goes, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:26:40.000 I don't have any money.

00:26:41.000 And the cop goes, oh, you're right.

00:26:43.000 And then keeps the money.

00:26:44.000 When you have people who are just like, I got to feed my family and I don't care.

00:26:48.000 That's when they're willing to take bribes. 0.56

00:26:50.000 They know they're doing something wrong.

00:26:52.000 And we are one degree above bribery becoming a normal thing in this country.

00:26:57.000 I think regular people are sick of it.

00:26:58.000 They're sick of seeing border agents like Dr. Phil endorse Donald Trump.

00:27:02.000 He talked on The View about how children are being sex trafficked and border patrols facilitating it.

00:27:07.000 And they know it.

00:27:09.000 That is a degree of corruption that I did not believe was possible.

00:27:13.000 I don't know if you can pull up this clip of Apotheker, Tim.

00:27:18.000 How do I find it?

00:27:18.000 I'm going to text it to you right now, actually.

00:27:21.000 He's crying in his patrol vehicle, and it's deeply moving.

00:27:28.000 You sent it to me on Twitter?

00:27:29.000 Would your preference text text you?

00:27:32.000 X, X, because I can pull on the computer.

00:27:33.000 Okay, very good.

00:27:34.000 Well, we'll keep talking while I pull it up.

00:27:36.000 But this is this evil of, this is this aspect of line in the sand.

00:27:40.000 Where do you draw the line?

00:27:41.000 Because most people's, I say my price is my life, and I mean that. 1.00

00:27:44.000 You have to kill me to stop me.

00:27:46.000 But Tim, most people's price is actually their children's life. 0.99

00:27:50.000 People will do anything to protect their family, rightfully so.

00:27:54.000 Even sacrificing other innocent children.

00:27:56.000 But then the question is, and throughout history, what would happen is, especially in the Soviet Union, you and I have talked about this, is that people will do anything to protect their children.

00:28:06.000 But what happens when you have to do evil things to feed your family?

00:28:08.000 So it's this really interesting kind of biblical kind of thing that we explore in the film.

00:28:14.000 And you meet so many weak people, so many people in this movie.

00:28:18.000 I'm just doing my job.

00:28:19.000 I'm just doing my job until you meet someone who is not weak.

00:28:22.000 What's your at on the X? Timcast.

00:28:24.000 Timcast, okay.

00:28:25.000 I'm going to text this to you right now.

00:28:29.000 Michael Malice said that there is no law— It's in your DM. What is the quote from Michael Mayer?

00:28:35.000 Something like, there is no law so depraved that a police officer would not follow it up to and including the execution of children.

00:28:40.000 Something like that.

00:28:41.000 And a lot of people immediately say a cop would never do that you don't understand.

00:28:44.000 And, no, I think a lot of people don't understand what Michael is saying.

00:28:48.000 He's not saying that your average cop will just go murder a kid for no reason.

00:28:51.000 He's saying, under the appropriate pressures, people will do evil things for their families, for their children.

00:28:58.000 And, uh...

00:28:59.000 That's a very interesting theme.

00:29:01.000 It's in your DM. If you could just pull it up.

00:29:03.000 Yeah, I'm getting it right here.

00:29:04.000 Zachary Apotheker.

00:29:05.000 He's a Border Patrol agent on the Canadian border.

00:29:07.000 People don't realize.

00:29:08.000 If you could go ahead and reset that.

00:29:11.000 Yeah, Instagram's never good with videos.

00:29:13.000 Correct.

00:29:13.000 There was a slider bar.

00:29:14.000 One thing.

00:29:15.000 When a girl like Lincoln Riley's jogging down in Georgia... 0.56

00:29:19.000 Yeah.

00:29:24.000 When a girl like Lincoln Riley's... 1.00

00:29:29.000 When a girl like Lincoln Riley is jogging, she's top of her class at nursing, and we sign those fucking files, man. 1.00

00:29:39.000 That's blood on our hands. 1.00

00:29:41.000 That's blood on your hands.

00:29:42.000 And that's a joke, maybe, to you.

00:29:44.000 You just keep collecting that check.

00:29:45.000 But let me ask you this.

00:29:46.000 If it was your mother, or your sister, or your aunt, How would you feel?

00:29:55.000 Okay, so that was a never-see A federal agent in uniform.

00:30:14.000 That's very rare.

00:30:15.000 He's been disciplined as a result of saying those things to me.

00:30:18.000 But there you have a man.

00:30:20.000 That's the archetype of an individual who has drawn his line in the sand and said, I cannot live with myself.

00:30:27.000 I am willing to lose my pension because I care more about the truth, my conscience, than my $130,000 a year salary.

00:30:37.000 And those are the types of people that fascinate me.

00:30:40.000 Why would he be disciplined for saying those things to you?

00:30:43.000 What rule did he break?

00:30:45.000 Because we live in a corrupt and broken world.

00:30:47.000 None of the other agents in the film were disciplined for speaking to me.

00:30:51.000 So because he told the truth, that's why he was disciplined.

00:30:55.000 And to tell the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act, to quote George Orwell.

00:31:02.000 So there are people who, like in this film, you have this woman driving a bus, this older lady, and she's like, I'm just doing what my job is.

00:31:09.000 You know, she knows what she's doing is wrong.

00:31:11.000 You can see it in her face.

00:31:12.000 Absolutely.

00:31:13.000 And these border guards who are like, well, we're getting paid.

00:31:15.000 We get $28 an hour.

00:31:16.000 This is never going to stop. 0.98

00:31:18.000 These people are thinking, look man, keep your head down, shut up, take the paycheck and watch the world burn.

00:31:25.000 When you get to a point where the majority of people in your society feel this way, this is the end for your nation, for your society, for your culture, whatever it may be.

00:31:33.000 You need a greater majority of people who are willing to sacrifice for the greater good, then you have people who are willing to exploit and rip it apart.

00:31:40.000 Let me say two things about that.

00:31:41.000 Number one, people think it's about something more than money.

00:31:44.000 Now, that may be true.

00:31:45.000 But what I found is it's almost always about money.

00:31:49.000 Now, I was not expecting that going into the field of the desert and the Border Patrol crisis, just like in Europe.

00:31:55.000 Labor is looking for more migrant hotels.

00:31:57.000 Very important to understand that the asylum industry is a big business.

00:32:01.000 A lot of people in Europe are making fat profits.

00:32:03.000 In the United States, Health and Human Services gives like a trillion dollars, like billions of dollars to companies that house little children.

00:32:11.000 So if they stop the flow of the kids, they take away the big money salaries.

00:32:16.000 So that was actually a little surprising to me.

00:32:20.000 And in the film, Tim's talking about this moment when these two security guards are like, Well, they can't shut this down because then we can't feed our family.

00:32:27.000 So I don't know if Elon's going to come in or someone's going to come in and reform this whole thing, but you have to put a lot of people out of a job.

00:32:33.000 He said something like that.

00:32:34.000 He said it's going to get hard for some people.

00:32:37.000 Trump's going to fire a lot of people.

00:32:39.000 We'll see. 0.97

00:32:40.000 It takes a tremendous amount of balls to do that. 0.89

00:32:43.000 Well, let's let's jump to the story from K.A.T.U.

00:32:45.000 Hundreds of ballots possibly burned after Vancouver ballot box arson FBI investigating.

00:32:52.000 The scary thing here is why?

00:32:54.000 Now, the postmillennial ads also in Portland, Vancouver and Portland.

00:32:59.000 They say ballot boxes in Portland, Oregon and Vancouver, Washington were set ablaze in the early hours of Monday morning.

00:33:05.000 The Portland ballot box located in the 1000 block of southeast Morrison Street, with officers responding to reports of the fire around 330 a.m. Monday.

00:33:12.000 By the time officers arrived, security personnel working in the area extinguished the fire.

00:33:16.000 They sent a press release.

00:33:18.000 Officers determined that an incendiary device had been placed inside the ballot box to set the fire.

00:33:23.000 The Bureau's explosive disposal unit cleared the device.

00:33:26.000 The status of the ballot box inside is currently unknown.

00:33:28.000 At around 6 a.m., police responded to the area of Fisher's Landing Transit Center in Vancouver for a separate burning ballot box.

00:33:35.000 According to KATU2, first responders released a pile of burning ballots onto the ground from the box, which continued to smolder.

00:33:43.000 So we don't know how many ballots are now destroyed, how many people's votes are now disqualified.

00:33:47.000 The scary thing about this is shadow campaign.

00:33:52.000 I don't know what it means.

00:33:53.000 I don't know what we should or could expect in the next week.

00:33:58.000 Did we get stories like this in 2020?

00:34:00.000 No, not burning ballots.

00:34:02.000 No.

00:34:02.000 Yeah, this is crazy, right?

00:34:04.000 No.

00:34:05.000 And so this is not even the first.

00:34:06.000 There was an Arizona mailbox that was set on fire, and 20 or so ballots that were inside it were destroyed.

00:34:10.000 There was another story that apparently was fake news.

00:34:13.000 Apparently it was manipulation.

00:34:15.000 And there's concern.

00:34:17.000 That this is an attempt to stop Republicans from voting early, to scare them, make them think that if they vote early, their ballot could be destroyed.

00:34:24.000 I don't know.

00:34:26.000 I think there's also a possibility it gives Democrats plausible claim that if Democrats lose, they're going to say, but how many ballots were destroyed by, you know, mega extremists or something?

00:34:35.000 They might make up.

00:34:36.000 We don't know who did this, left, right or otherwise.

00:34:38.000 These are in deep blue areas.

00:34:42.000 Why destroy these ballots?

00:34:43.000 Why?

00:34:47.000 Um, double switch.

00:34:48.000 It could be someone hated, didn't want the Portland ballots to get counted.

00:34:52.000 It could be someone who wants it to look like the opponent of the Portland voters wants their ballots to get destroyed.

00:34:58.000 Or it could be some force, foreign or domestic, who's trying to sow chaos with an election.

00:35:03.000 Yes, it's domestic terrorism.

00:35:04.000 This is legit domestic terrorism where you unleash, like, Homeland Security and find out.

00:35:10.000 There's a heightened awareness this time around, Tim.

00:35:13.000 I mean, at OMG, we have 200 poll workers that want to film, and it just wasn't the case a few years ago.

00:35:20.000 I mean, I put out a, hey, if you want to film, send me a message.

00:35:23.000 We got like 600 emails from poll workers and election judges.

00:35:27.000 When more is at stake in an election, more people are going to do illegal things.

00:35:31.000 This is a felony, obviously.

00:35:34.000 You're going to have people – you have two assassination attempts or three, two or three assassination attempts on a president.

00:35:40.000 So you're just going to have all – there's so much scrutiny on this election that if someone is doing something improper, it's going to be recorded.

00:35:48.000 You're going to know about it.

00:35:51.000 What happens next?

00:35:52.000 You know, there have been two legitimate attempts on the life of Donald Trump, one plot.

00:35:56.000 We now have ballots being destroyed.

00:35:59.000 I am very concerned about what comes November 5th.

00:36:04.000 Well, we have 200 people with cameras recording, and if there's some impropriety, we'll find out.

00:36:10.000 If it's close, we'll find out.

00:36:12.000 What's your bigger concern in this?

00:36:14.000 Chaos and violence or just...

00:36:17.000 People here and there trying to cheat by like discarding a vote or counting it wrong or what do you think is going to happen?

00:36:23.000 The predict the future question.

00:36:27.000 Don't predict the future but what is your concern?

00:36:29.000 The country is so divided that – the country is so – Yes.

00:36:49.000 me in jail.

00:36:50.000 Are they really going to try to put all these people in jail for political reasons?

00:36:53.000 Is that going to sit?

00:36:54.000 Okay.

00:36:55.000 But that's then there are going to be some people on the extreme who unfortunately will probably rebel against that.

00:37:01.000 That's unjust.

00:37:01.000 That's wrong.

00:37:02.000 So that's a setup for a civil war.

00:37:05.000 And I don't think the Democrats can – I don't believe in that.

00:37:10.000 I don't believe in violence.

00:37:11.000 I don't believe in any type of illegal behavior.

00:37:15.000 But my concern is the country is so divided.

00:37:18.000 But it does seem, Tim, in the last week or two – maybe I'm reading the room wrong – but that a lot of people are unifying behind Trump.

00:37:25.000 That's my sense of it.

00:37:26.000 So maybe he wins in a landslide.

00:37:28.000 Well, I don't know if I'd say he wins in a landslide, but right now the data suggests that he gets a marginally decent victory in the popular vote and the Electoral College.

00:37:37.000 And we need this.

00:37:38.000 I'm going to say it again.

00:37:39.000 I've been screeching this for the past two weeks now.

00:37:41.000 Go vote.

00:37:43.000 Listen, if you live in California, we need you to vote even more than anybody else.

00:37:48.000 Trump winning swing states, it looks like he's going to win the swing states.

00:37:51.000 Great.

00:37:51.000 If you live in a swing state, go vote.

00:37:52.000 But now more than ever, especially the people who live in deep blue and deep red states need to vote because we got too much apathy.

00:38:00.000 In California, you got 10 million Republicans and about half of the Republicans go, it's a blue state anyway.

00:38:05.000 I'm not going to vote.

00:38:05.000 Who cares?

00:38:06.000 What's the point?

00:38:07.000 If you vote and Trump wins the popular vote, it sends a message to the far-left insane ideology that we, the American people, say no.

00:38:17.000 But if Trump wins the Electoral College and loses the popular vote, they're going to claim they have popular mandate, that Donald Trump is a usurper who is ineligible to be president, and then it will be absolute chaos.

00:38:29.000 I'm not saying it won't be chaos if Trump wins both, because who knows what they're going to do.

00:38:32.000 I'm just saying, let's have the moral high ground and get everybody to go vote.

00:38:36.000 And I'll tell you this, even in red states, if you're in a red state, you're going to go, he's going to win here anyway.

00:38:40.000 What's the point of me voting?

00:38:41.000 So that Trump wins by 10 million votes.

00:38:43.000 And you say, look at that, we win.

00:38:45.000 In Charlestown, the line for early voting was massive, stretching all the way down.

00:38:49.000 How far did it go?

00:38:51.000 Blocks?

00:38:52.000 A couple blocks?

00:38:52.000 Crazy.

00:38:53.000 That's good news.

00:38:54.000 I just think that if there is a conspiracy, if there is some type of illegal destruction of ballots, I think this time we're going to know about it.

00:39:03.000 I think someone out there is going to record it.

00:39:05.000 Someone's going to blow the whistle on it.

00:39:07.000 It's not possible for them to get—that's what I believe.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, but we're not talking about a conspiracy.

00:39:12.000 We're talking about a standalone complex.

00:39:14.000 If 10,000 run-of-the-mill regular Democrats who are working voting locations in various states— It could be as simple as one guy of his own volition being like, I can't let Hitler win. 0.99

00:39:26.000 And so he says, Trump must be a no good, throws in the garbage. 0.99

00:39:33.000 Ah, Kamala. 1.00

00:39:34.000 That's Kamala. 0.92

00:39:36.000 I see.

00:39:36.000 You're saying no one was there to witness that.

00:39:38.000 Well, so the issue with 2020 was that a lot of the instances that people were saying was, hey, look, this person is doing something weird with ballot counting.

00:39:45.000 You don't need a conspiracy for this.

00:39:48.000 When Kamala comes out and says Trump is Hitler, do not let him win.

00:39:52.000 That is the conspiracy right there.

00:39:55.000 I mean, not literal conspiracy.

00:39:56.000 That is the instruction.

00:39:57.000 If you are working polling locations and voting centers, what she is basically telling you is that you have to do whatever you can to stop Trump.

00:40:05.000 So what happens if 10,000 people in swing states just take it upon themselves to do something illegal?

00:40:15.000 Who's going to be tracking John Doe?

00:40:17.000 Just some random guy.

00:40:19.000 He's 36.

00:40:20.000 He got a job at a polling location.

00:40:22.000 Nobody knows or cares who he is.

00:40:24.000 He has no authority whatsoever.

00:40:25.000 And then he's just going, what does that say?

00:40:27.000 Does that say Trump?

00:40:28.000 I can't read it. 0.99

00:40:29.000 It goes in the garbage.

00:40:30.000 And then you do that a couple times, and then you end up shifting how many votes for Trump in a swing district.

00:40:35.000 If one person gets caught on tape doing that, man, that'll just send a shockwave through.

00:40:40.000 Yes, but we already had in 2020 the woman who ran the ballots through multiple times, and that was never adjudicated. 0.99

00:40:46.000 The question was, did they properly get counted?

00:40:49.000 So the question was, is she re-scanning the same ballots because they're not serialized at incrementing more votes for Kamala, or were they just rejected from the scanner and she had to re-put them back in?

00:40:59.000 We don't know.

00:41:00.000 All the Trump supporters are going to claim she's tripling Kamala votes by doing that because just run them through over and over and over again. 1.00

00:41:08.000 It adds to the count.

00:41:09.000 We don't know.

00:41:09.000 If an individual does something nefarious or malicious to shift ballots in either direction, who cares?

00:41:17.000 If someone catches that person, the judge is going to say, eh, 50 votes won't change an election.

00:41:21.000 The concern is when 10,000 Democrats do something like that.

00:41:25.000 Well, we'll be recording if they do.

00:41:27.000 That's all I can say.

00:41:28.000 Yeah.

00:41:28.000 We're still kind of in a heavily insecure voting strata, unfortunately, where we rely on pieces of paper.

00:41:36.000 And I've talked about this all last week.

00:41:38.000 And that's the way it should be.

00:41:38.000 Well, except when they get lit on fire and there's no backup.

00:41:41.000 That's a big problem.

00:41:42.000 That's the problem of early voting.

00:41:43.000 And there should not be early voting month.

00:41:47.000 Constitution says Congress provides, and Congress provides a single day for the election, and they've all started subverting the rules so they can put ballot boxes in insecure locations.

00:41:58.000 Also, when a girl's running the same piece of paper through a machine multiple times, if that happens, that shouldn't be possible. 1.00

00:42:03.000 And that's why paper ballots.

00:42:05.000 You're right, Ian.

00:42:06.000 You are correct.

00:42:06.000 We should not be using the machines.

00:42:08.000 They should be hand-counted paper ballots like almost every other country does, and they can get counted in a decentralized manner at the local level where three people are looking at each count, putting it in a box, locking it, and saying, we all agree this is the number.

00:42:21.000 If you can do that, if you can have three people look at every ballot, what about the guy who's like, I can't read that, and he throws it away?

00:42:28.000 That's why you have two other people.

00:42:29.000 Because then they go, what do you mean?

00:42:30.000 It says Trump.

00:42:31.000 So you need three people for every ballot.

00:42:34.000 I mean, what do they do?

00:42:35.000 People actually do that?

00:42:36.000 Three people, not for every ballot.

00:42:38.000 Three people for every jurisdiction.

00:42:41.000 And they did this in Arizona.

00:42:43.000 They did it in Arizona.

00:42:44.000 Yes, they did.

00:42:44.000 And you've got to hope that they're not colluding.

00:42:46.000 Well, there's only so much you can do.

00:42:48.000 A machine's not going to actually be able to track political biases.

00:42:51.000 So you have a Democrat or Republican and a nonpartisan, and they'll all look at it, and they'll all agree, that's a Trump vote, that's a Kamala vote, that's a Trump vote, that's a Kamala vote.

00:43:01.000 They get put in a box, the number gets written down, they all sign it, it gets sealed with tamper evident tape three times, and they say, here's our number, we report it.

00:43:10.000 Every jurisdiction does that, and in a decentralized way, all the data gets fed to a centralized location, and you have a near-perfect decentralized count of the vote.

00:43:22.000 Guarantee that it's a Trump voter, a Kamala voter, and an independent person.

00:43:26.000 And they'll just be like...

00:43:26.000 It's very easy.

00:43:27.000 It's called registration.

00:43:28.000 Yeah, I'll vote.

00:43:29.000 Dude, you know how many people would register for the opposite things to go screw something?

00:43:33.000 Like, people become nefarious.

00:43:35.000 Open source code is not nefarious.

00:43:36.000 Making an argument that you can't perfectly secure a system is not an argument against securing a system.

00:43:40.000 No, I'm not talking about perfectly securing anything.

00:43:42.000 I'm talking about making less insecure.

00:43:45.000 Like, we're very reliant on people's goodwill right now in this system, and that is...

00:43:49.000 Which is why you do three people.

00:43:50.000 And it's very reliant on those three people's goodwill, and that is...

00:43:54.000 I don't...

00:43:55.000 What?

00:43:55.000 I'm not...

00:43:56.000 I don't trust humans.

00:43:58.000 I don't trust...

00:43:59.000 Why would you ever?

00:43:59.000 I don't trust computer code I can't see.

00:44:01.000 Well, you just have to see the code.

00:44:02.000 You're right.

00:44:03.000 I don't trust code I can't see either.

00:44:04.000 That's why the Dominion system's busted.

00:44:06.000 And here's the problem.

00:44:06.000 I can't read code either.

00:44:09.000 I can't read code, so I reject your promise.

00:44:10.000 Well, then you should learn how to read the code and check it.

00:44:12.000 That's not my responsibility. 0.84

00:44:13.000 Or you can be willfully ignorant, but there are people that can read the code. 0.96

00:44:16.000 You know what I think? 0.82

00:44:17.000 We should do voting based on Magic the Gathering cards.

00:44:20.000 That'll be the verification system, because I'm an expert in that.

00:44:23.000 Other people should have to learn how to play.

00:44:24.000 I don't understand that, Tim.

00:44:25.000 I should be able to use an encryption system only I know, and you have to learn.

00:44:28.000 Well, if it's...

00:44:29.000 What the...

00:44:30.000 What kind of argument is that?

00:44:32.000 Arguing that a person...

00:44:33.000 You're not arguing a system that only one guy understands.

00:44:35.000 It's an open-source coded system where you can read the code online on GitHub. 0.77

00:44:38.000 Arguing that a plumber has to learn how to code so that he can understand the election system is ridiculous.

00:44:44.000 Hey man, it's better than not having any access to it.

00:44:48.000 Right, so we should have paper ballots, hand counted, three people, that's called securing a system. 0.92

00:44:53.000 It's not secured.

00:44:54.000 It's more secured to have some sort of backup.

00:44:58.000 James, what say you?

00:44:59.000 I mean, I approach this a little differently.

00:45:02.000 I released a video in Maricopa County, Tim, last week, went viral, just to let them know that I'm there.

00:45:10.000 Because I believe this recording thing works, and, you know, because it deters fraud.

00:45:16.000 People are afraid.

00:45:16.000 You know, I've been on the show before, and people are afraid...

00:45:21.000 They're going to be shamed out of committing fraud for fear of them being caught committing fraud.

00:45:26.000 Because your point is, what if, I think you said 10,000 people do it autonomously?

00:45:30.000 Is that your point?

00:45:31.000 Yep.

00:45:32.000 But even in their minds, they might be afraid.

00:45:35.000 They're going to look to the left, they're going to look to the right, right?

00:45:37.000 Most of the time, you're not alone in these rooms.

00:45:39.000 You're in gymnasiums, you're in schools.

00:45:41.000 I think they would be afraid of getting caught.

00:45:44.000 And my message to everyone is that I'm not exaggerating.

00:45:47.000 We have hundreds of people that are going to have hidden cameras.

00:45:51.000 So maybe that's going to deter them.

00:45:53.000 To your point, yep, some might not get caught, but some will get caught.

00:45:57.000 Agreed.

00:45:58.000 And this Maricopa County people, I said before the show, they're attacking me for recording them.

00:46:05.000 The Maricopa County election trainer has deleted her LinkedIn after OMG's Maricopa election training expose.

00:46:10.000 Let's pull this up real quick, actually.

00:46:12.000 So I have this tweet from James O'Keefe himself.

00:46:15.000 Maricopa County election trainer Amy Bricker deletes her LinkedIn after OMG's Maricopa election training expose.

00:46:22.000 Can you explain what this expose was and what happened?

00:46:26.000 It wasn't even a big, massive bombshell of them doing anything really wrong.

00:46:31.000 If you...

00:46:32.000 Scroll through some of the rest of the tweets, you'll see the video.

00:46:35.000 This was a video from a Maricopa County training.

00:46:38.000 This is like one of the most contentious counties in the country.

00:46:41.000 And the worker was saying, quote, it's not our job to police ballot harvesting.

00:46:48.000 Quote, we're not any type of law enforcement agency.

00:46:51.000 This is Amy Bricker.

00:46:52.000 Now, Tim, I'm not sure she's incorrect about that.

00:46:56.000 The legislature of Arizona, this is kind of in the weeds here, has made a law that says, no, we can't, the trainers don't police that.

00:47:02.000 If you're angry, be upset at the legislature, not the trainer who's following the law.

00:47:06.000 I didn't release this video because she did something wrong. 0.71

00:47:10.000 I released this video to let them know that I'm in there.

00:47:12.000 Should we just play the intro video?

00:47:14.000 Again, it's not Watergate.

00:47:15.000 I have one question about drop-off ballots.

00:47:18.000 Are we allowed to say anything?

00:47:19.000 Because it is a felony for people to turn in ballots outside their home.

00:47:22.000 No.

00:47:22.000 Just two weeks away from the presidential election, we are inside recording the trainings.

00:47:28.000 We take you inside Maricopa County, Arizona.

00:47:31.000 Where election trainings are now in full swing.

00:47:33.000 Meet Amy Bricker.

00:47:35.000 She's an election trainer for Maricopa County.

00:47:37.000 She says if poll workers spot ballot harvesting activity, it is not their job to police that illegal activity.

00:47:46.000 Check this out.

00:47:47.000 As a poll worker, it's not your responsibility to police that.

00:47:50.000 We're not any type of law enforcement.

00:47:52.000 During yet another election poll watching training session at Maricopa County's election office, another citizen journalist discovered that federal agents from the DOJ will be inside those election centers.

00:48:06.000 Again, all of this recorded by volunteers, citizen journalists, and poll watchers there in Arizona.

00:48:12.000 What would be some reasons why the Department of Justice would need to show up at your poll center?

00:48:16.000 They could be following up on a lawsuit or just coming to monitor things for this election.

00:48:22.000 So that's a little taste of that.

00:48:23.000 So who are these people?

00:48:24.000 How do they get these jobs to train others on these elections?

00:48:27.000 That's a good question.

00:48:29.000 Who are these election trainers?

00:48:31.000 I don't know.

00:48:32.000 And so what she's saying, when it comes to someone who may be ballot harvesting, don't police them?

00:48:38.000 Correct.

00:48:39.000 Is she saying not to report it?

00:48:43.000 It's not our job to police that.

00:48:48.000 So what she means as Bricker's response, quote, as long as the ballot is signed and dated, we don't get involved.

00:48:55.000 If it's signed by the owners, it's valid, raising questions.

00:49:01.000 But the legislature of Arizona, that's the law.

00:49:03.000 So she's following the law.

00:49:05.000 So people are angry at her, by the way, which I don't support.

00:49:08.000 This poor girl is getting death threats, unfortunately, and I'm against that. 0.82

00:49:13.000 They should be upset at the legislator.

00:49:15.000 But remember, ballot harvesting means, Tim, you're delivering a bunch of other people's ballots, but it could be your sister, brother, grandfather, etc.

00:49:21.000 That's legal.

00:49:22.000 What's not legal is to fill out multiple ballots.

00:49:25.000 Right.

00:49:25.000 I think actually most states allow some form of secondary ballot drop-off.

00:49:32.000 So that could include ballot harvesting.

00:49:32.000 To varying degrees.

00:49:34.000 And there's only a small amount of states that actually explicitly forbid it.

00:49:38.000 And if you could look at these, I don't know if you can pull down the responses from the clerks or the head of the county, Stephen Richter is his name.

00:49:38.000 Correct.

00:49:46.000 Congrats to the intrepid dance video journalist who secretly – why do they always have to – why don't we just talk about this?

00:49:53.000 What does dancing have to do with this?

00:49:55.000 Why do they hate that?

00:49:56.000 It's like they call James alt-right, far-right, and he's just like, well, you know, they criticize your dancing.

00:50:02.000 This is kind of philosophically fascinating.

00:50:03.000 Stay classy, O'Keefe.

00:50:05.000 Well, I'm a reporter, and I quote people for a living.

00:50:09.000 Now, here's the rest of this.

00:50:10.000 James O'Keefe's history of cringe dance.

00:50:12.000 This is the...

00:50:13.000 Is it a compilation of good dance moves?

00:50:15.000 I don't know what that links to.

00:50:17.000 Oh, it's the Young Turks clink. 0.93

00:50:19.000 They're making fun of my dancing.

00:50:21.000 Again, why are liberals making fun of dancing?

00:50:24.000 Here's an interesting thing.

00:50:26.000 This is like going viral on TikTok, too, where people are like, guess who I just voted for?

00:50:30.000 They're doing the Trump dance.

00:50:32.000 They hate the dancing.

00:50:33.000 The Trump dance is so good.

00:50:34.000 It's like one of the best dances ever made.

00:50:36.000 He's not in a golf swing, did you see?

00:50:38.000 He had a golf swing.

00:50:40.000 This guy, Stephen Richter, is a big deal.

00:50:41.000 They had a front page New York Times profile on him.

00:50:44.000 These are big top dogs.

00:50:46.000 My point, Tim, is that, and I genuinely believe this, you can go through these weird responses, but this is Bill Gates.

00:50:52.000 If you can scroll down on my, not this thread, but the next tweet down, shame on you, James O'Keefe, if we can scroll down.

00:50:58.000 Oh, on your page.

00:50:59.000 Keep going, scrolling down.

00:51:00.000 It's a shame.

00:51:01.000 Bill Gates...

00:51:02.000 Not the Bill Gates, but other Bill Gates.

00:51:04.000 Apparently...

00:51:05.000 Which one is it?

00:51:06.000 Right there.

00:51:07.000 Go down.

00:51:08.000 Go down.

00:51:09.000 Up one.

00:51:10.000 This right here?

00:51:11.000 No.

00:51:13.000 It's...

00:51:13.000 You may have to keep going.

00:51:17.000 Shame on me.

00:51:18.000 There it is.

00:51:19.000 There it is.

00:51:19.000 Bill Gates.

00:51:20.000 Shame on you, James O'Keefe.

00:51:21.000 Your bad faith...

00:51:22.000 This is the Bill Gates, not...

00:51:24.000 Bill Gates, Microsoft.

00:51:26.000 There's another Bill Gates who works in Maricopa County elections.

00:51:30.000 Shame on you, O'Keefe.

00:51:30.000 Your bad faith undercover investigation endangers the safety of workers.

00:51:35.000 Election workers are our friends, neighbors, and family members.

00:51:37.000 They did nothing wrong.

00:51:38.000 They deserve our respect.

00:51:39.000 Again, I'm a reporter.

00:51:41.000 And my job is to report.

00:51:43.000 It's interesting that newspapers can quote people, but when you video quote them, somehow it puts them in danger.

00:51:49.000 I mean, I guess I understand that on some level in this highly divided world of ours when things have become so heightened.

00:51:58.000 But I'm factually reporting what's happening, and I think all of this is meant to deter fraud.

00:52:04.000 And what I hope – no, not hope.

00:52:06.000 What I know will happen in the next week, because I'm the leader of this effort, is we're just going to have 100 people provide recordings, Tim.

00:52:13.000 And hopefully that deters the fraud that you speak of.

00:52:16.000 How do we make it bigger than several hundred and get 10,000 people who are legally set up to record and monitor?

00:52:23.000 Laws are very tricky on this and I have to say that. 1.00

00:52:25.000 What is the legality? 0.99

00:52:26.000 I could pass the bar exam on this crap. 0.97

00:52:30.000 I have posted to our website all the laws. 0.99

00:52:33.000 It's only legal in so many states.

00:52:36.000 It's very complicated.

00:52:38.000 So you gotta check the OMG website.

00:52:42.000 It's very complicated.

00:52:43.000 You can't intimidate a voter.

00:52:45.000 And the question is, will the Department of Justice view this?

00:52:49.000 It's not, but will they pull an Orwellian thing and try to say that we're intimidating voters by recording?

00:52:56.000 Well, it only matters if they win.

00:52:59.000 So here's the issue.

00:53:00.000 If you go to one of these polling locations completely under your legal rights and engage in monitoring or whatever it is legally and Trump wins, no, you're good.

00:53:10.000 But if you do that and then Kamala wins, you're going to get locked up.

00:53:13.000 Are they going to lock up everybody?

00:53:16.000 Do you think they're going to do that?

00:53:17.000 They set up Capitol Police offices around the country to go after people who are wandering around on January 6th and didn't even enter the building.

00:53:23.000 There are people who showed up.

00:53:26.000 So there's one story that I've talked about quite a bit.

00:53:28.000 It was a woman who told me she was going to jail for 18 months, her and her husband, because they showed up to the Capitol hours, hours after the Capitol was breached.

00:53:37.000 They went on the side of the building, they were walking around where there was no broken glass and no violence, the doors had been propped open.

00:53:42.000 They walked up, no barriers, no obstructions, walked in the building, looked around for about two minutes, walked out having no idea what went on, arrested, charged, sentenced to 18 months.

00:53:53.000 Let me do the ethical thing here because we're broadcasting a lot of people.

00:53:57.000 This will take me 30 seconds.

00:53:58.000 What not to do.

00:54:00.000 Do not intimidate voters.

00:54:02.000 If you're recording, do not intimidate.

00:54:04.000 That means do not do anything aggressive or threatening around polling locations.

00:54:09.000 Don't photograph ballots or people who are voting.

00:54:13.000 Don't do that.

00:54:14.000 Don't touch ballots.

00:54:15.000 Don't pretend to be someone else.

00:54:17.000 Don't interfere with the election.

00:54:19.000 Be respectful and check your recording laws in the States.

00:54:23.000 I posted this to my website.

00:54:25.000 But, Tim, I find it fascinating.

00:54:27.000 You think that...

00:54:28.000 Kamala's just going to jail people like Elon and me and others. 1.00

00:54:33.000 Elon, they're going to come after him in crazy ways.

00:54:37.000 And they're going to damage his businesses and make life miserable.

00:54:39.000 But don't you think that there's so many Trump supporters that are just...

00:54:44.000 They're not going to put up with that.

00:54:45.000 I think that is the intended position.

00:54:49.000 To create a civil unrest.

00:54:52.000 Well, yeah, because I don't think...

00:54:54.000 I don't think anybody wants civil war at an official level. 0.55

00:54:59.000 There's certainly people on the ground like Antifa and maybe some elements of the right that are like, yeah, bring it on, but that's ridiculous.

00:55:04.000 I think what they're more looking for is, if you've listened to what Steve Baker had to say about January 6th, He's the journalist who's been criminally charged.

00:55:12.000 They shackled him.

00:55:13.000 And he said, in his opinion, the Pentagon planned for J6 to go down the way it was.

00:55:19.000 And if it wasn't for one officer, there may have been severe injuries to members of Congress in the Senate.

00:55:25.000 One officer of his own volition without orders evacuated the building.

00:55:29.000 He got in trouble later on for, you know, something else.

00:55:32.000 He said he was endangering officers.

00:55:34.000 If he did not have his own volition to evacuate, then the J6ers would have clashed with members of Congress. 1.00

00:55:39.000 Steve Baker believes that was the intention.

00:55:42.000 So that way they could say this was an insurrection.

00:55:44.000 And if you think about it through that lens, everything they've done hunting down J6ers makes sense if a member of Congress was hurt in some way. 1.00

00:55:53.000 But considering you have a bunch of nonviolent misdemeanor trespass, hunting people down and putting them in solitary confinement makes literally no sense.

00:56:01.000 So I would I would say it's not that anybody wants a grand scale separatist movement or anything like that, but that they want to terrify people into sitting down and shutting up.

00:56:11.000 They want to create an air of fear and terror among anyone who would oppose the uniparty machine and then give themselves justification for going after the people who speak up and speak out.

00:56:25.000 I agree.

00:56:30.000 Or it could create a Soviet or Chinese communist type era where the dissenters are just beaten down and suppressed and hidden.

00:56:37.000 I think my theory is that America might be different than all those previous examples throughout history.

00:56:42.000 I agree.

00:56:43.000 We're more cavalier.

00:56:45.000 We're more cowboy.

00:56:45.000 We're more the land of the free, the home of the brave.

00:56:49.000 My theory, and I have to believe this, otherwise we're just...

00:56:52.000 What's the point of existing?

00:56:54.000 I have to believe that we're just built differently.

00:56:58.000 So even if it were true, which I don't actually believe, but even if it were true that Kamala Wins and all these regulatory agencies put people like me in jail...

00:57:05.000 By the way, I've been to jail.

00:57:06.000 I've been raided by the FBI, arrested by the FBI, sued 40 times, fired from the company I founded, and I can go on.

00:57:11.000 But even if I were to take your premise...

00:57:16.000 I think the people would just rise up.

00:57:18.000 I don't mean that in a violent way.

00:57:19.000 I just mean they would support the people who are in jail and donate to their lawyers.

00:57:25.000 This is it.

00:57:26.000 Trump winning may be that people finally breaking and saying, I've had enough of this.

00:57:31.000 And now in Jefferson County, in West Virginia, the line for early voting is massive.

00:57:37.000 And I don't believe the people in West Virginia are lining up in droves to vote for Kamala Harris.

00:57:41.000 You can argue that Kamala's got her base, for sure. 1.00

00:57:45.000 I don't think anyone is that passionate about Kamala.

00:57:48.000 The only argument would then be they actually believe Trump is Hitler and they're passionate against him.

00:57:52.000 Let me throw you another black swan here in your— Black swan. 0.98

00:57:57.000 Black swan means— Unpredicted, unknown thing, curveball.

00:58:03.000 I have a whistleblower from FEMA that's going public Thursday.

00:58:07.000 FEMA, you know, the North Carolina situation.

00:58:10.000 A full-time federal employee, Christian lady, who says, to hell with this, I'm blowing the whistle on the agency. 1.00

00:58:17.000 And I'm noticing a pattern.

00:58:18.000 You and I have been talking about this for years.

00:58:19.000 But I'm noticing now, like, people have just had enough.

00:58:23.000 They just, they just, Zach, you saw the guy crying in the perpetual car.

00:58:26.000 Yeah.

00:58:27.000 And I just think you're going to see more of those types of people rise up.

00:58:32.000 And they, and then, and notice, you didn't see the movie, but in the movie, Zach makes a sign of the Christian cross.

00:58:38.000 I say, aren't you afraid they're going to take your pension?

00:58:41.000 They're going to destroy your life.

00:58:42.000 He says, you're looking at it.

00:58:45.000 Very powerful. 0.95

00:58:46.000 He says, to hell with all of you, I am willing to die on my cross, so to speak, for the public's right to know.

00:58:51.000 So this lady that's coming out from FEMA Thursday, a few days before the election comes out, I mean, it's very powerful.

00:58:58.000 And I think that you just need a few people with courage, and courage is in short supply these days.

00:59:04.000 But that's another thing that could happen.

00:59:05.000 You know, I was just thinking about it, and I think it's a simple equation.

00:59:09.000 When the fear of what this country is becoming outweighs the fear of reprisal, you will get whistleblowers.

00:59:16.000 That's exactly right.

00:59:17.000 And I think we're starting to see this.

00:59:18.000 That's exactly right.

00:59:19.000 And I have this new nonprofit that pays their, I'm paying Zach's legal bills, Citizen Journalism Foundation.

00:59:24.000 It's very, very powerful to hear.

00:59:26.000 I asked this lady, I said, aren't you afraid?

00:59:30.000 And she said, no, I'm called to do this.

00:59:34.000 And your point is well taken.

00:59:36.000 Soviet Union, what are the other countries you mentioned that went through this hell, this dystopian?

00:59:41.000 It's a pattern throughout history, right?

00:59:43.000 Where we just descend into compliance and conformity, and people are afraid to do the right thing. 0.99

00:59:49.000 But this is America, damn it! 0.99

00:59:52.000 We're built differently, right? 0.99

00:59:53.000 Yeah, local governance runs this show.

00:59:56.000 Yeah.

00:59:57.000 There's so many people that control their locality here.

01:00:01.000 Yeah, you just need someone to, they're trying to, Tim, all those election officials in Maricopa are saying that stuff because they're trying to deter other people to do the same thing.

01:00:10.000 That's their number one goal.

01:00:12.000 Deter others.

01:00:14.000 Zach took his gun away, took Zachary Apotheker.

01:00:16.000 By the way, at some point I'd love to call him in just two minutes on the show so everyone could hear his voice, the perpetual agent.

01:00:21.000 Took his gun away, took his paycheck, cut his paycheck, trying to make his life a living hell.

01:00:27.000 So they can deter other people from doing the same thing.

01:00:31.000 I think more likely than you getting thrown in jail in the event that Kamala wins, due to the nature of the work you do...

01:00:41.000 I think that big tech firms will just see a Kamala Victory as license to crack down.

01:00:47.000 That's interesting.

01:00:49.000 Yeah.

01:00:49.000 But Zuckerberg, what do you think his philosophy is?

01:00:52.000 They're so dumb for trusting me. 0.99

01:00:55.000 He literally said that. 1.00

01:00:56.000 But he sounds like he's become more politically libertarian.

01:00:59.000 You see this story?

01:01:00.000 Actually, you know what?

01:01:02.000 Let's pull this story up.

01:01:03.000 Let's pull this story up and we'll talk about this.

01:01:05.000 We've got this from NPR. Over 200,000 subscribers flee Washington Post after Bezos blocks Harris endorsement.

01:01:13.000 The Washington Post has proven itself to be of, for, and by the Democratic Party masquerading as a news organization. 0.93

01:01:21.000 Jeff Bezos decided, and he's not a stupid guy, we are not endorsing Kamala Harris. 0.66

01:01:27.000 USA Today just announced they will not be making an endorsement either. 0.94

01:01:31.000 LA Times announced this.

01:01:33.000 Do you know why they're making these announcements?

01:01:34.000 They know they're going to lose money, but they know what happens after this election when Trump wins.

01:01:41.000 Trump is going to come out, and he's going to be pissed off.

01:01:43.000 He's going to be pissed off at these guys who all went against him, and they believe that Donald Trump is going to win.

01:01:49.000 Also, I think they legitimately don't support Kamala Harris.

01:01:52.000 Like, Jeff Bezos does not support that regime.

01:01:55.000 Benz, I think Mike Benz was talking about this, or somebody was talking about it last week, that these guys trusted the deep state.

01:02:00.000 They trusted the apparatus, Zuckerberg with Facebook, and then they did their bidding, basically, during the Biden administration and with the Hunter Biden laptop suppression of that story.

01:02:10.000 And then their reward was more crackdown, more supporting the EU's law on digital censorship.

01:02:17.000 And they're like, we thought that if we did what you told us to do and censored the people you wanted us to censor, that you'd give us our power back or lighten up.

01:02:25.000 And instead, it just got worse.

01:02:26.000 And they see that that's the path of following evil is that more evil comes or more suppression.

01:02:31.000 Following the path of suppression equals more suppression.

01:02:33.000 You don't make a deal with the devil.

01:02:35.000 So my view with this, where is Mark Zuckerberg right now?

01:02:39.000 That was the question.

01:02:39.000 Well, he seems to be coming out acting like he's libertarian now and he's for Trump.

01:02:44.000 No.

01:02:45.000 He's looking at the data that he's got and he's saying, we cannot, as these institutions, suppress the American people anymore.

01:02:55.000 Trump will win.

01:02:57.000 And if we are on the wrong side of this, then the people will come with their torches and pitchforks.

01:03:02.000 So Zuckerberg is now saying, oh, yeah, Trump.

01:03:05.000 So cool.

01:03:06.000 I'm out of here.

01:03:06.000 So great.

01:03:07.000 He's building it.

01:03:08.000 He's building a house on a Hawaiian island with an emergency bunker and his own wagyu cattle.

01:03:13.000 That dude's preparing for the worst.

01:03:15.000 A lot of these guys are.

01:03:16.000 Well, this is the Washington Post.

01:03:18.000 You know, the commercial imperative dictates that most of their audiences are Democrats.

01:03:22.000 So they have to pick that side.

01:03:25.000 Yeah, but they're not now because Washington Post Washington Post refused to endorse and the editorial staff wanted to.

01:03:32.000 Bezos blocked them and said, you're not endorsing.

01:03:34.000 And the reason why, in my opinion, is that Bezos is looking at his business he owns and the money he's going to lose.

01:03:39.000 And he's thinking to himself, if we don't endorse a Democrat, I'm going to lose tons of money.

01:03:44.000 However, if we endorse Kamala and Trump wins, he's going to come after Blue Origin.

01:03:49.000 He's going to come after all of us.

01:03:49.000 He's going to come after Amazon.

01:03:51.000 I see.

01:03:52.000 And Bezos, with this statement, is saying it is a greater risk to go against Donald Trump than it is to just not endorse anybody.

01:04:00.000 I think these billionaires are seeing the line.

01:04:04.000 They're seeing what's coming.

01:04:06.000 That is a Trump victory.

01:04:08.000 Honestly, if there is a defense mechanism against totalitarian government, it is the people themselves and their companies, their organizations.

01:04:17.000 Multinational corporations are dangerously center forces of power.

01:04:22.000 Like you can Google has a lot of authority, but that also the people at Google could be a paragon against corruption because they help run our digital infrastructure, our communications like they they could maintain against some sort of crazy government overreach.

01:04:37.000 Yeah.

01:04:38.000 Ben Smith wrote that it was impossible timing for this announcement to be read as a statement of principle, which makes it even worse.

01:04:45.000 It's like, if it wouldn't be one thing if he was doing it on principle, but it's obviously, to your point, obeying Trump in advance.

01:04:51.000 Yep.

01:04:52.000 Which is, I just, it's so political and so insincere.

01:04:57.000 But I think there's a greater issue, which is how do you solve the political divide in this country?

01:05:01.000 And how do you avoid this...

01:05:03.000 By the way, Zach's ready.

01:05:03.000 Situation.

01:05:04.000 I'll call him when you're ready, if it's okay for me to go and speak.

01:05:07.000 Yeah, maybe in like five minutes we'll wrap up this story.

01:05:10.000 The answer to your question, James, you jam.

01:05:12.000 You rock so hard that the world has no choice but to listen.

01:05:15.000 I think...

01:05:16.000 We're gonna do that tonight.

01:05:17.000 I think you do it by...

01:05:19.000 For one, this leftist ideology is not popular.

01:05:21.000 It never has been.

01:05:23.000 It only rules through fear. 0.98

01:05:25.000 All of these comedians, they, like Howard Stern, spews racial slurs left and right, but then once the woke mob controls the institutions, he drops to his knees and he begs like a spineless little coward. 0.86

01:05:37.000 He'll no longer make the jokes. 0.78

01:05:39.000 Please, just don't hurt me. 0.99

01:05:41.000 Oh, what a loser. 1.00

01:05:42.000 Howard Stern, you're a loser. 1.00

01:05:44.000 People like him. 1.00

01:05:45.000 They are terrified of whoever is in control of the institution.

01:05:49.000 And what we need to do is prove they don't.

01:05:52.000 They don't control these institutions and people don't care for this. 0.99

01:05:54.000 There's a silent majority of people who reject the woke garbage. 0.99

01:05:57.000 Bud Light made a huge point. 0.98

01:05:59.000 When they lost billions in market share and they've never recovered.

01:06:03.000 I thought they were going to see...

01:06:04.000 I don't want to get too much into it.

01:06:06.000 I thought they were going to see a sales normalization they would capitalize.

01:06:08.000 They didn't.

01:06:09.000 They just keep spiraling.

01:06:11.000 It's just worse.

01:06:11.000 Even UFC and Joe Rogan couldn't save Bud Light.

01:06:14.000 Disney lost a billion dollars, a billion, on their past 10 releases or whatever.

01:06:20.000 And Kevin Feige had to go and fire everybody.

01:06:22.000 The next move is a Donald Trump popular vote victory.

01:06:26.000 Go vote.

01:06:27.000 I don't care where you live.

01:06:28.000 If you live in a red state or a blue state that are deep blue, not swing states, more than ever, you got to go vote.

01:06:34.000 Because when Trump wins the popular vote by 10 million or whatever the number is, I'm not saying he does.

01:06:38.000 I'm saying if he does, that's a message to all of these leftist institutions.

01:06:43.000 You have lost the popular mandate.

01:06:45.000 You never had it. 0.79

01:06:45.000 And it's time to sit down and shut up and let regular people come back into the fold and we can fix this thing. 0.79

01:06:51.000 That's how you unify the divide. 0.99

01:06:52.000 You shut out the crazy people by proving once and for all, people don't like the crazy.

01:06:57.000 Look, when I went and saw Marvel Adventures Endgame, it's a big deal.

01:07:04.000 It's a 10-year culmination of a multi-billion dollar franchise.

01:07:07.000 One of the biggest movie franchises ever.

01:07:10.000 When they did the scene where all the women are walking up and they're like, she's not alone.

01:07:15.000 And all the women strut. 1.00

01:07:16.000 The audience groaned.

01:07:17.000 People didn't like it.

01:07:19.000 Nobody hates women. 1.00

01:07:20.000 It's just ham-fisted garbage. 1.00

01:07:22.000 When they remade the movie The Craft. 0.99

01:07:24.000 Did you see that one?

01:07:25.000 When was that?

01:07:26.000 This was like two years ago.

01:07:27.000 You got to watch it.

01:07:28.000 You're going to laugh. 0.96

01:07:28.000 You're going to laugh your ass off. 0.96

01:07:29.000 The Craft in the 90s is about four girls who are witches and they do magic, whatever. 0.93

01:07:34.000 They remade it and it's just all woke insanity.

01:07:38.000 One of the witches is a trans woman. 1.00

01:07:40.000 They turn the jock gay with magic. 1.00

01:07:42.000 It's just, it's nonsense. 0.99

01:07:44.000 These movies bomb. 0.99

01:07:45.000 They fail miserably.

01:07:46.000 They're losing money.

01:07:48.000 Regular people do not like what the institutions have become.

01:07:52.000 But so long as they can beat people in a submission and tell them if you speak up, you're fired, people won't say anything.

01:07:58.000 But now people are starting to speak up.

01:08:00.000 Bud Light, as I mentioned, Disney, as I mentioned, and now Trump winning a popular vote victory finally silences the 8-10% of Americans who have this insane ideology.

01:08:10.000 And we have the polling data on this.

01:08:11.000 It's 8-10% of Americans that are woke.

01:08:13.000 And the rest of the liberal side is just bowing down to them, scared they'll lose their jobs.

01:08:18.000 Enough.

01:08:19.000 Scared they'll lose their jobs.

01:08:21.000 That's mostly it.

01:08:22.000 Mostly it.

01:08:22.000 Not everybody.

01:08:23.000 Not everybody.

01:08:24.000 But I believe that if we get a Trump popular vote victory, more of these people are going to think the other way.

01:08:29.000 And they're going to think, so most people like Trump?

01:08:32.000 Well, I don't want to be a loser. 0.61

01:08:33.000 I don't want to get people yelling at me.

01:08:35.000 I don't agree with those people.

01:08:37.000 And that's how we shut down the fringe elements of the far left that have been violent and psychotic.

01:08:41.000 And it will show this country is actually more unified than people realize.

01:08:45.000 I think that's right.

01:08:47.000 They call that a cultural victory.

01:08:49.000 Absolutely.

01:08:50.000 That's how it works.

01:08:51.000 Or at least a sway of culture where cities start to pop back.

01:08:55.000 I would just like to explain briefly what I was talking about with Mark Zuckerberg, because that is an actual quote.

01:09:01.000 And I know you're kind of believing his rebrand.

01:09:05.000 No, I'm just, yeah.

01:09:06.000 So tell me.

01:09:07.000 He leans libertarian, but this is what he said in 2004.

01:09:10.000 He said, yeah, so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard, just ask.

01:09:15.000 I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses.

01:09:18.000 People just submitted it.

01:09:19.000 I don't know why. 1.00

01:09:20.000 They trust me, dumb fucks. 1.00

01:09:23.000 That was 20 years ago? 1.00

01:09:25.000 Yeah, but do you really think his philosophy has changed at all? 0.98

01:09:28.000 Oh yeah, now that the government's been up his butt. 0.64

01:09:30.000 He's learned, he's growing. 0.98

01:09:32.000 Yeah, he's become utilitarian.

01:09:34.000 He knows what they're going to do to him if he keeps participating.

01:09:37.000 He's become one of the most powerful men in the world, controlling one of the most powerful information apparati on the planet, and he's worth dozens of billions or whatever dollars, and now he's had a reformation.

01:09:47.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:09:48.000 Yeah, man.

01:09:49.000 The Biden administration screwed that.

01:09:51.000 I'm just saying, I feel like big tech censorship isn't going to get significantly better under either candidate, whoever wins.

01:09:58.000 Well, that's a reasonable assumption.

01:10:01.000 I mean, it does look like...

01:10:02.000 I'm just saying, given the nature of what you do for a living, that is something that you obviously have to think about.

01:10:06.000 About censorship?

01:10:08.000 What about the Streisand effect?

01:10:09.000 They censor you, it makes you bigger.

01:10:10.000 What do you think about that?

01:10:12.000 I mean, that's optimistic.

01:10:14.000 It depends, actually.

01:10:15.000 I mean, you're never going to know because the people who fade into obscurity, they fade into obscurity.

01:10:20.000 It is not correct to say that once it's online, it's there forever.

01:10:20.000 Right.

01:10:23.000 For example, let's see if we can use the power of the internet.

01:10:29.000 There was a cartoon on Reddit...

01:10:32.000 10 or 12 years ago, where there was this cartoonist on YouTube.

01:10:36.000 I forgot what his name was.

01:10:37.000 I don't know.

01:10:38.000 Maybe you can find it.

01:10:38.000 He made jokes mocking various subreddit.

01:10:41.000 He had r slash gaming and r slash atheism.

01:10:44.000 He made fun of the r slash atheism subreddit because he was like, it's actually really cool that you guys make fun of people for having different beliefs.

01:10:52.000 He got attacked so mercilessly by the left, he deleted the video, removed it from the internet.

01:10:56.000 I've never been able to find it since.

01:10:58.000 And it had a ton of views.

01:10:59.000 It's gone.

01:11:00.000 That's not the only example, just the one I can think of off the top of my head, where people have been able to successfully purge stories from the internet using reputation management firms.

01:11:09.000 I hear you.

01:11:10.000 I think the nature of what I do is a little different in that the content is king.

01:11:15.000 So if you get something so compelling on video, it'll work its way It'll work its way through other people.

01:11:23.000 If I'm censored, it'll be distributed by proxy.

01:11:26.000 So I was banned from Twitter in 2021 until Elon bought it, and then I was brought back in January 23.

01:11:33.000 And people would distribute our stories by proxy.

01:11:35.000 If it's a really good story...

01:11:37.000 People will want to watch it, just like people go to pay to see stuff, like they go to movie theaters to watch stuff.

01:11:43.000 I think people will want to see it.

01:11:45.000 I think it's a very compelling content, which randomly makes me think that good journalism is hard to come by and good stories are hard to come by.

01:11:55.000 But people can disagree on this.

01:11:59.000 Do you know what exactly got you banned in 2021? 0.98

01:12:02.000 It was so ridiculous. 0.98

01:12:03.000 It was Kafkaesque. 0.98

01:12:04.000 It was like, what did they say? 0.98

01:12:05.000 They said I was, it was like the most ridiculous, the most ridiculous, absurd, bureaucratic rationale. 0.95

01:12:12.000 The same thing they're doing to Zach Apotheker from the Border Patrol. 0.91

01:12:14.000 I had gone to a house in San Francisco.

01:12:19.000 I did a story about CNN, undercover, and I went, or Facebook or one of these companies, but it was on Twitter.

01:12:26.000 I posted to Twitter, and I forgot to blur the lamppost of the number of the house.

01:12:32.000 so they argued that i had infringed privacy by leaving the number on the lamppost but cnn went to like people's private homes and blurred nothing random old ladies random old ladies in trailer parks you know about that one so they banned me because i had violated the privacy of this lamppost in a public neighborhood it was completely absurd and hypocritical and i do remember when they banned me on twitter i'm like whoa because i never thought i'd crossed that threshold

01:12:59.000 and for two years i distributed my stories through other people if it's really really good people will share it That's my theory, at least.

01:13:07.000 Do you want to give Zach a call?

01:13:08.000 We're going to do it right now.

01:13:09.000 This is the Border Patrol agent in Vermont.

01:13:13.000 I'm going to be a DJ and have one ear off and one ear on so I can hear through the microphone.

01:13:20.000 Zach Apotheker.

01:13:21.000 Hey, Zach, are you there?

01:13:23.000 Of course I am.

01:13:24.000 Always here if you rub up.

01:13:25.000 You have the thickest Boston accent ever.

01:13:30.000 You want to put the microphone right up top?

01:13:34.000 I can't change now.

01:13:36.000 You're live on the air.

01:13:40.000 Is this right?

01:13:41.000 Yeah.

01:13:41.000 You're live with Tim, and we showed the clip of you in the patrol car, and we're talking about courage, and we're talking about people blowing the whistle, and Tim Poole made a point that people are afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of retaliation.

01:13:56.000 You're not.

01:13:57.000 So you're the guy doing the thing.

01:13:59.000 Can you just talk about why that is and people following your lead?

01:14:03.000 Well, I don't think I'm a courageous guy.

01:14:05.000 I think, you know, I grew up in a country that I grew up playing wiffle ball with my brothers in the backyard, running around my neighborhood.

01:14:11.000 I grew up right outside Boston.

01:14:12.000 I had a glorious upbringing, 4th of July barbecues, so forth and so on.

01:14:18.000 Both my brothers got into drugs.

01:14:19.000 We lost like a generation full of good men that started on maybe pills and then moved over to heroin.

01:14:26.000 And I lost both my brothers.

01:14:27.000 And when that happened, I felt a calling and a purpose.

01:14:29.000 So I And

01:15:06.000 they retaliated against you, Zach.

01:15:08.000 What did they do to you?

01:15:08.000 They destroyed me!

01:15:11.000 Right now, they're trying to destroy him.

01:15:13.000 And they took your gun away?

01:15:14.000 Just really quick, like, what did they do?

01:15:17.000 They took my gun away, took me off nights, took me off weekends.

01:15:20.000 They said it wasn't disciplinary.

01:15:22.000 They brought in criminal investigators to investigate me as if I did something criminal.

01:15:27.000 All I said was, there's over 300,000 kids missing.

01:15:30.000 Lincoln Riley's now deceased by somebody that the Border Patrol encountered, and I'm the bad guy.

01:15:35.000 And they're trying to get me on a technicality.

01:15:37.000 So luckily I have you.

01:15:39.000 You have the big outreach.

01:15:40.000 You're on Timmy Poole.

01:15:41.000 I'm just here to say, when are we going to stand up and actually speak out for your country?

01:15:45.000 I'm not saying you're going to beat me.

01:15:46.000 I don't know if Tim has a question, but we're trying to get other people to follow your lead, and they're trying to make an example out of you, and that's the concern.

01:15:54.000 What was the moment when you were like, the straw has broken the camel's back, I have to speak?

01:16:02.000 There really wasn't one moment.

01:16:04.000 You know, James can attest to this.

01:16:05.000 We were talking about it.

01:16:06.000 We were going back and forth.

01:16:07.000 I called him crying.

01:16:08.000 You know, I'm not that courageous of a guy.

01:16:10.000 And we hung up the phone. 0.67

01:16:11.000 And the moment we hung up, Trump got shot in the ear. 0.92

01:16:13.000 That was it. 0.95

01:16:14.000 That was the Trump getting shot. 0.52

01:16:15.000 Wow.

01:16:16.000 No, no, Zach.

01:16:17.000 That was the day Trump got shot in the ear.

01:16:19.000 And then you're like, okay.

01:16:22.000 I don't know if we're going to even have a country.

01:16:24.000 Was Trump getting shot?

01:16:26.000 That was the line in your sand, right?

01:16:29.000 Yeah.

01:16:30.000 There might not be tomorrow.

01:16:32.000 I didn't know if I'd be successful.

01:16:34.000 I didn't know if the movie.

01:16:35.000 I didn't know nothing.

01:16:36.000 I'm not a political guy.

01:16:37.000 I'm not in the entertainment industry.

01:16:40.000 For those of you listening, you're listening to the Border Patrol agent in the film, Line in the Sand, who blew the whistle on the Border Patrol in his patrol vehicle, and now they're taking away his gun.

01:16:52.000 They've reduced your salary, right?

01:16:53.000 They're trying to keep him employed but make his life a living hell so he quits.

01:16:58.000 And my advice is to not quit.

01:17:01.000 Don't quit.

01:17:03.000 Don't quit, Steve.

01:17:07.000 I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

01:17:09.000 Zach, what should other Border Patrol officers do to follow your lead?

01:17:14.000 I mean, everybody knows what to do and what they should do.

01:17:18.000 And a lot of times I get ad hominem attacked.

01:17:20.000 Like, I wasn't that good of an agent.

01:17:21.000 I wasn't this.

01:17:22.000 You know, listen, I'm not here to tell the next man what to do.

01:17:25.000 But if you sit down with any Border Patrol agent and say, what have you seen over the last four years?

01:17:29.000 They're going to say the same thing as me.

01:17:31.000 And they're scared.

01:17:32.000 They don't want to get treated like this.

01:17:33.000 So maybe I can prove to them that, listen, it's not that bad.

01:17:36.000 Whatever they do, at least the American people are going to appreciate it.

01:17:40.000 I can tell you that I have a lot of these warped relations that are talking to me on deep background, and they're fence-sitters.

01:17:48.000 They're like, let me see what happens to Zach.

01:17:51.000 That's what they're all saying.

01:17:52.000 They're literally watching this guy because they all hate what they're doing, and it's blood money.

01:17:59.000 In your film, one of the Border Patrol agents looks at you and says, hey, I'm a big fan, and shakes your hand.

01:18:04.000 It's weird.

01:18:05.000 There's like little girls. 0.75

01:18:06.000 You've got to watch this movie.

01:18:07.000 There's little girls, and they're being picked up and trafficked, and they're just like, oh, I hate my life, hate my job, hate what I'm doing, but I need the money.

01:18:14.000 And I'm like, what are you guys doing?

01:18:17.000 And he's like, hey, I'm a big fan.

01:18:19.000 It was just like the most absurd, I mean, it may have been the most absurd moment in the movie.

01:18:25.000 It's like lost in all of this is any semblance of right and wrong.

01:18:30.000 So all these guys, Zach doesn't know this because he's not on all the calls, but all these guys, actually Zach knows some of the guys, are waiting to see what happens to Zach.

01:18:41.000 So it's almost like Zach needs to survive and thrive.

01:18:47.000 And then they'll follow him.

01:18:48.000 Listen, I'll go back to Boston and go be a carpenter.

01:18:51.000 But what I'm not going to do is hand little girls off into the hands of the cartel because I'm getting paid $120,000, $130,000 a year. 0.97

01:18:57.000 My mother always said to me, Zach, I don't care if you bag groceries.

01:19:01.000 It's what's in your heart.

01:19:02.000 I get choked up talking about it.

01:19:03.000 I get emotional.

01:19:04.000 But she said to me, she says, I don't care if you go bag groceries.

01:19:07.000 It's what's in your heart that counts.

01:19:09.000 And a man's character, it's not his job. 0.99

01:19:11.000 So this way I never had an allegiance or a loyalty to the brand of the Border Patrol to have a gun on my head.

01:19:18.000 I signed up because both my brothers died.

01:19:20.000 I'm never going to get them back.

01:19:22.000 I signed up so drugs wouldn't come into this country.

01:19:24.000 And next thing you know, all our resources are tied up in having people come in.

01:19:30.000 And next thing you know, you're looking to your left and right.

01:19:32.000 The desert's wide open.

01:19:34.000 Like you had Chad Wolf on your documentary.

01:19:37.000 What did he say about the drugs that were coming to the fence?

01:19:39.000 I mean you saw drugs in your movie.

01:19:42.000 Chad Wolf said that drugs only – they were saying that drugs only come in through port of entry.

01:19:46.000 They come in everywhere.

01:19:47.000 Zach, we got to go.

01:19:48.000 Tim, any last comments?

01:19:50.000 I really do appreciate your bravery, your honesty, and I wish more guys were like you.

01:19:55.000 Thank you, Zach.

01:19:56.000 They're not going to destroy you because they're going to have to go through me to get to you.

01:20:14.000 And we're going to pay your legal bills.

01:20:15.000 I'm paying his legal bills.

01:20:17.000 We're going to pay all the whistleblowers legal bills.

01:20:19.000 Thank you, Zach.

01:20:21.000 Have a go, man.

01:20:22.000 So did you notice how...

01:20:23.000 Wow.

01:20:23.000 I mean, this guy is the thickest Boston accent I've ever heard.

01:20:27.000 I love his accent.

01:20:28.000 I've been an accent person.

01:20:29.000 I go undercover for a living, so I study this stuff.

01:20:32.000 I think that he...

01:20:34.000 You made a point.

01:20:35.000 You said people are afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of this and all.

01:20:38.000 It's almost like, what if the premise was to hell with that?

01:20:41.000 Okay, I'll lose my job.

01:20:43.000 That's what he's about.

01:20:44.000 He doesn't care.

01:20:44.000 But it's the equation of when people fear what happens to their country more than they fear reprisal, you You get whistleblowers.

01:20:52.000 And I don't think that's happened until recently, right?

01:20:55.000 I don't think that's been a thing.

01:20:56.000 I think for some people, they'll stand up and do the right thing no matter what.

01:20:59.000 The Vietnam War spawned a generation of people willing to do it. 0.96

01:21:03.000 But since then, this is it.

01:21:04.000 This is the beginning.

01:21:05.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:21:07.000 I think for a lot of people, we're going to start seeing this more and more.

01:21:10.000 I think there's two kinds of whistleblowers.

01:21:12.000 Guy gets a job because he's like, hey, I want to work security nights.

01:21:15.000 He sees somebody doing something wrong and he goes, that's wrong and I won't stand for it.

01:21:19.000 He's going to take personal risk, but it's the right thing to do.

01:21:22.000 There's another kind of whistleblower where they're actually looking at a scale, and they're like, if I say nothing, my life will be destroyed.

01:21:29.000 I'm going to blow the whistle, right?

01:21:31.000 So some of these whistleblowers are going to come out.

01:21:33.000 It's not because it's the right thing to do.

01:21:35.000 It's because the alternative is worse.

01:21:38.000 That's very well put.

01:21:39.000 That's how bad it's getting.

01:21:40.000 They're having a crisis of conscience, right?

01:21:43.000 And it's very – whistleblowing is extra legal.

01:21:47.000 It's impossible to do it in a way where you're not breaking a few eggs.

01:21:51.000 But that's a very astute way of putting it.

01:21:53.000 There's a scale, and at some point you can't live with yourself. 0.94

01:21:56.000 Most of these Border Patrol agents are miserable.

01:21:58.000 And if you're watching – Zach, in the film, I can't even do what he does.

01:22:02.000 It's so powerful.

01:22:03.000 But if you're watching this, I will pay your legal bills.

01:22:05.000 I have a foundation.

01:22:05.000 But let me clarify.

01:22:06.000 I'm speaking economically.

01:22:09.000 There is somebody who's going to be working a job, and they're going to say, if I don't call out the people who are stealing from this company, this company's going to go out of business, I'm going to lose my job.

01:22:17.000 And so there's a lot of, I think we're starting more whistleblowers that are looking at it more like, yo, this country is about to collapse economically.

01:22:25.000 If I don't do something now and speak out, it'll be worse than saying nothing.

01:22:29.000 It's almost like that Braveheart speech from Mel Gibson where he says, yes, you might keep your job, but But for a while.

01:22:36.000 And many years from now, when you're lying in your bed and you're sitting there, what would you give if you had one chance to go back to 2024 on the eve of the presidential election and blow the whistle on FEMA? Or to vote.

01:22:48.000 Go vote.

01:22:49.000 Go vote.

01:22:50.000 I mean, I think that most of the whistleblowers I talk to don't care if they lose their job.

01:22:54.000 They just don't care.

01:22:55.000 Some things are more important than your job.

01:22:58.000 And frankly, even if a hundred people blow the whistle, it will change the world.

01:23:03.000 But, of course, they're all watching Zach.

01:23:05.000 They're all watching him and waiting to see what happens to him, seeing how he does.

01:23:09.000 So what these people have to do is they have to make his life a living.

01:23:11.000 They have to try to make his life a living hell.

01:23:14.000 They have to try to hurt him.

01:23:17.000 And my advice is don't quit.

01:23:19.000 Don't quit.

01:23:20.000 Man, it's so demonic.

01:23:22.000 It's spiritual, Tim.

01:23:23.000 The whole thing's a spiritual war.

01:23:25.000 I don't know if you know that, but it is.

01:23:26.000 Not only in the support of people coming out, that's obviously what you do in a lot of what your company does, which is extra spectacular, is the...

01:23:37.000 Is the releasing the knowledge of what's happening in society?

01:23:40.000 Because, Tim, like you were saying, people will blow the whistle when the opportunity cost of not blowing the whistle outpaces.

01:23:46.000 Like, it's going to be worse if I don't throw my job away.

01:23:50.000 But if they don't know how bad it might get...

01:23:52.000 So that's our job as educators in a lot of what we do here and shows like this and people that are willing to ring the bell and show you, like, hey, the U.S. national debt is $36 trillion.

01:24:03.000 Yeah.

01:24:04.000 And it's going up by a trillion dollars a year, whatever.

01:24:06.000 They show you the pain.

01:24:08.000 They show you the problem.

01:24:09.000 And they do it in a way that you don't look away.

01:24:12.000 Then, when you know the problem, it's easier to make the calculation of, should I speak out against this?

01:24:17.000 I sent Tim a DM. There's a little girl in the desert walking all alone in the desert in the film.

01:24:22.000 It's not an actress.

01:24:24.000 It's a real girl.

01:24:25.000 And people were emotional.

01:24:27.000 I didn't think it was that...

01:24:31.000 I mean, I could have shown a lot worse.

01:24:33.000 And there's this trailer.

01:24:34.000 Just play the first few seconds of this trailer because it's a scene from the film.

01:24:38.000 Boom.

01:24:39.000 We got an unaccompanied minor right here, guys.

01:24:42.000 This is heartbreaking right here.

01:24:43.000 Pause.

01:24:44.000 Go back to that.

01:24:45.000 There's more in the movie, but this girl's all alone.

01:24:48.000 Her clothes are tattered.

01:24:50.000 She's drugged. 0.93

01:24:51.000 And she says, and this is in the film, she says, my father's in heaven.

01:24:54.000 Now she's speaking in Spanish.

01:24:56.000 Translated it.

01:24:57.000 I mean, this was, people are crying.

01:24:59.000 I don't think Americans are ready to see this.

01:25:02.000 I don't think they understand.

01:25:03.000 This is a humanitarian crisis.

01:25:05.000 So Border Patrol agents see this every day.

01:25:07.000 Zach sees this.

01:25:09.000 And he says, to hell with my job.

01:25:12.000 I can't live with myself.

01:25:14.000 I mean, this is real.

01:25:15.000 I mean, Sound of Freedom, great movie.

01:25:17.000 I love Sound of Freedom.

01:25:18.000 This is not an actress.

01:25:20.000 This is a real little girl walking all alone.

01:25:24.000 And obviously, I don't even want to say what happened to her and what will happen to her.

01:25:30.000 And I could have shown a lot worse, but people were overwhelmed just by the image of this little girl.

01:25:36.000 And that shows me that we need more imagery, images like this, because, Tim, that'll hopefully change things.

01:25:43.000 Regardless of who wins, they have to reform the system.

01:25:46.000 She just, like, brought across, drugged up, and left?

01:25:50.000 Yeah, there's scenes in the film of people, kids drugged.

01:25:52.000 They drugged them.

01:25:55.000 What do they drug them with?

01:25:56.000 There's like this sedative in Mexico that they use to sedate them. 0.97

01:26:00.000 And many of the facilities in Texas where they house these unaccompanied girls, they're sexually abused and raped. 1.00

01:26:09.000 And nobody talks about it. 0.56

01:26:10.000 Well, we're talking about it now.

01:26:12.000 Very rarely do you see stuff like this.

01:26:15.000 I think it's powerful because the entire concept and term for empathy has been abused by people who support open borders.

01:26:24.000 And a lot of people mistakenly believe that supporting open borders is the compassionate option.

01:26:31.000 That's not true.

01:26:31.000 And you're showing...

01:26:32.000 And you know what really is the reason why we don't talk about it?

01:26:36.000 From my perspective is because so many people are making money off this.

01:26:39.000 It's all about money.

01:26:41.000 You stop the flow of the people like this, you stop enriching the people.

01:26:45.000 And the government's funding this.

01:26:47.000 It's wild.

01:26:50.000 And Tara Rodas blew the whistle on these unaccompanied kids and that's why what Tim is saying is so true. 1.00

01:26:56.000 When the cost of doing nothing outweighs...

01:27:00.000 Your conscience.

01:27:01.000 You can't brush your teeth, look in the mirror, and these images...

01:27:05.000 I mean, these images...

01:27:07.000 Are in your mind, and it traumatizes you.

01:27:10.000 Who's Tara Rodas? 1.00

01:27:11.000 She's in the film.

01:27:12.000 She's a federal government whistleblower who worked in the Office of Refugee and Resettlement, where they put all the kids.

01:27:18.000 And she talked about all the hundreds of thousands of missing kids in the United States.

01:27:23.000 Because a drug, traffic cocaine, you can only use that once.

01:27:29.000 The child, you can use multiple times.

01:27:33.000 And what I learned is the economics of human trafficking, there's a lot of money in housing the kids.

01:27:39.000 And Tim said, driving the kids around in the movie, you see, well, we drive all these people around making money.

01:27:44.000 A lot of money in that, a lot of money in trafficking the children. 0.61

01:27:46.000 You know where there's not a lot of money?

01:27:49.000 Saving the children.

01:27:51.000 There's no money in saving these people.

01:27:52.000 What would be a way of saving them?

01:27:54.000 Would it just be sending them?

01:27:55.000 Do you understand how many people will lose money if you close the border?

01:28:00.000 There's nothing to be gained by closing the border.

01:28:02.000 Except for the lives of children.

01:28:04.000 But therein lies the point, isn't it?

01:28:07.000 Yeah, what's a human life worth?

01:28:09.000 What's a human life worth?

01:28:10.000 $40,000.

01:28:11.000 You tell me?

01:28:12.000 I think it's $40,000, yeah.

01:28:13.000 That's why the film is called Line in the Sand.

01:28:16.000 And that's what we're talking about here.

01:28:19.000 What is this crafty guy with a camera on his watch over here?

01:28:23.000 Actually, I do.

01:28:24.000 Yeah.

01:28:25.000 It seems like the longer you leave it open, the more business will spring up around it.

01:28:30.000 There's literally a man in the film who I say, so if they stop the flow of the children, you stop getting paid?

01:28:34.000 He's like, yes, sir.

01:28:36.000 Yes, sir.

01:28:36.000 With a twinkle in his eye.

01:28:38.000 Then he goes, that's life.

01:28:40.000 In fact, people say that's life so many times in the film, I should make a rap video out of it.

01:28:46.000 Like, that's life.

01:28:47.000 That's life.

01:28:48.000 I said, that's life.

01:28:49.000 That's life.

01:28:51.000 Lost in any of this is any morality or concern about humanity?

01:28:56.000 And to your point, which is well said, they have the narrative, right?

01:29:00.000 Well, you're trying to help these people.

01:29:02.000 Listen, I rode the train with the Venezuelans.

01:29:04.000 I jumped on a moving freight train in Mexico and rode it with the – and it changed my life because I realized, oh, these are decent people.

01:29:10.000 No, they're not all criminals.

01:29:11.000 They're trying to do the right thing.

01:29:13.000 How long were you on that train for?

01:29:14.000 I was only on there for a weekend.

01:29:16.000 But like the whole weekend you were on that train?

01:29:18.000 We were on Arapuato, rode the train.

01:29:20.000 There was a freaking guy with a machete and they said, my colleague, hide.

01:29:25.000 I'm like, hide? 0.89

01:29:26.000 I mean, this is dangerous.

01:29:27.000 I was detained by the Mexican National Guard.

01:29:29.000 I could have been ransomed.

01:29:31.000 You used to do stuff.

01:29:32.000 We used to work with Vice.

01:29:33.000 You used to do street stuff.

01:29:34.000 I mean, this is hardcore, hardcore journalism that we did.

01:29:39.000 And I was scared.

01:29:40.000 The one piece of advice I always have for everybody is don't panic.

01:29:43.000 Well, don't panic.

01:29:45.000 Especially when you don't speak their language.

01:29:47.000 Right.

01:29:48.000 But the Venezuelans took us in.

01:29:52.000 Like a herd animal, we were all just trying to survive.

01:29:54.000 And it really was deeply moving for me to travel with them because it was all about survival and being part of a team.

01:30:04.000 But that image right there...

01:30:09.000 Can change a lot of hearts and minds.

01:30:12.000 Lineinthesandmovie.com, it's out now, and I think it'll go mainstream because it's not a political film.

01:30:18.000 So for two days you were on this train, is that what you're saying?

01:30:20.000 I was not on the train for two days.

01:30:22.000 I was near Poitou.

01:30:23.000 We rode the train.

01:30:24.000 My colleagues...

01:30:26.000 Anthony had previously ridden the entire train and he was...

01:30:30.000 Beast, they call it, right?

01:30:31.000 La Bestia, the beast, the train de la muerte, the train of death.

01:30:33.000 Jeez.

01:30:34.000 And it's usually a grain car.

01:30:37.000 I was in a bolachera car, which is little iron balls.

01:30:40.000 And they were so happy that they got to lay on iron balls.

01:30:43.000 This is in the movie because it's more comfortable than the grain car.

01:30:51.000 Had been kidnapped by the cartel.

01:30:53.000 This guy is like I don't know if you've ever heard of this guy.

01:30:55.000 He's a YouTuber.

01:30:56.000 And they took a crowbar, destroyed all of his cameras, and so he didn't have the footage from that trip.

01:31:03.000 So when we were detained by the Mexican National Guard this is in the film.

01:31:07.000 My biggest concern was losing the footage, so I hid the SD chip in my cargo pants and And fortunately, when the Mexican National Guard detained me, they realized that I was a documentarian, and they became very terrified of me that I had recorded their illegal behavior.

01:31:25.000 Wow.

01:31:26.000 So they let me go.

01:31:27.000 I actually don't— You've got a camera in your watch.

01:31:30.000 I had recorded the interaction with the Mexican National Guard on my...

01:31:34.000 Can I see it?

01:31:35.000 Epic.

01:31:36.000 This particular watch?

01:31:37.000 Oh.

01:31:38.000 It was not the one that I used.

01:31:39.000 Oh, okay.

01:31:40.000 You're like, I do have, actually.

01:31:40.000 Because he's pointing to it.

01:31:41.000 Not at the moment.

01:31:43.000 So I had a smartwatch 10 years ago with a camera in it.

01:31:47.000 And nobody knows these things exist.

01:31:49.000 I mean, you can look it up if you want, but they've been around for a while.

01:31:51.000 Contact lenses with cameras in them.

01:31:53.000 Yeah, but some of this stuff on Amazon isn't very good.

01:31:55.000 You have to have the right hidden camera.

01:31:57.000 We use this as a low-light watch camera.

01:31:59.000 It's completely pitch black.

01:32:00.000 So even GoPros 11 don't work well in low light.

01:32:03.000 So you have to have the right hidden cameras.

01:32:04.000 We have some good stuff.

01:32:05.000 And I rode the train with the Venezuelans, and I have to say that it was deeply moving.

01:32:10.000 It was really something.

01:32:12.000 These are genuine.

01:32:14.000 Some of these people are trying to get a better life, and if I was them, I'd be doing the same thing.

01:32:16.000 Is the footage in the movie?

01:32:18.000 It's in the film.

01:32:18.000 What exactly?

01:32:20.000 How many hours on the train?

01:32:22.000 Oh, in the film we only show 10 minutes of the film, but this is the entire stretch from...

01:32:31.000 Irapuato is a town south of Mexico City.

01:32:34.000 And...

01:32:36.000 We had documented the journey all the way to Ciudad Juarez, and we had made friends with the immigrants, so they had sent us video.

01:32:43.000 So we showed— Go ahead.

01:32:44.000 I was going to say, Ian, you got to watch it.

01:32:45.000 You just got to watch it.

01:32:46.000 You got to watch it.

01:32:46.000 Yeah, dude.

01:32:47.000 I just want to say this without calling anybody out, but James, you make him mad, but I actually let some friends watch it with me.

01:32:54.000 Oh?

01:32:54.000 And one of them started crying.

01:32:56.000 No way.

01:32:56.000 A grown man.

01:32:58.000 When Act 3— Which part?

01:33:00.000 The child part.

01:33:02.000 Oh, the other children.

01:33:03.000 Yep.

01:33:04.000 And he was, like, trying to turn it off, too.

01:33:06.000 And I was like, bro, if you can't do it, you gotta leave.

01:33:08.000 Do you think that people are ready to handle this child trafficking, or they would rather not know about it?

01:33:17.000 I was mentioning that the intro to Sound of Freedom is really hard to watch.

01:33:23.000 It's when the father loses his children, and the way they trick him and steal these children from him, it's difficult to watch.

01:33:29.000 Now imagine watching the real thing.

01:33:31.000 That's crazy.

01:33:33.000 This is terrifying stuff.

01:33:34.000 It's terrifying.

01:33:35.000 I just say people got to watch it.

01:33:36.000 It's transformative.

01:33:38.000 And I don't know why anybody has not done this before.

01:33:41.000 I guess they're afraid of getting killed because in Mexico they assassinate you.

01:33:44.000 Yes, James.

01:33:45.000 Cartel is – I forget about that.

01:33:48.000 The cartel makes, what is it, $10,000 a person.

01:33:50.000 So all these folks – so how do you take the money away without getting killed is the question.

01:33:57.000 James, this film you've made is a serious threat to a multi-billion dollar industry.

01:34:02.000 Yes.

01:34:02.000 Yeah, I hope you're taking your security seriously.

01:34:06.000 I wouldn't say what I'm doing on the air about my security, but I think that in Mexico they kill you. 0.73

01:34:13.000 In the United States, well, I guess they also try to kill you in the United States. 0.96

01:34:15.000 They also try to assassinate you.

01:34:16.000 And here's a really serious question.

01:34:18.000 If Trump wins, or when Trump wins, how does he reform this?

01:34:24.000 Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you.

01:34:25.000 If you had embarked on a project like this during the Trump administration, how would it have looked any differently?

01:34:31.000 I can't imagine that the state of affairs at the border looked tremendously different than what you showed in this film.

01:34:39.000 I think that that's a great point.

01:34:42.000 The film will probably be more successful after the presidential election when we're not in this heightened political sensibility.

01:34:48.000 How do you reform the industry?

01:34:50.000 How do you change this is the question I have.

01:34:54.000 And maybe Elon Musk can change it.

01:34:57.000 You have to take away so many people's jobs and the cartel is getting paid.

01:35:03.000 So are you going to take down the cartel?

01:35:05.000 How do you stop that?

01:35:08.000 I'm not an expert in that.

01:35:10.000 This is what I do.

01:35:11.000 I'm a journalist.

01:35:12.000 I expose it.

01:35:13.000 What do you think?

01:35:14.000 The U.S. military is an expert in doing that.

01:35:17.000 I mean, honestly, if you're going to have a paramilitary organization creating chaos on your border, that's a military action waiting to happen, in my opinion.

01:35:25.000 I'm just saying, this situation was ongoing during the Trump administration, so are we to expect...

01:35:31.000 The administrative state, the Department of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services are executive agencies that are not elected.

01:35:39.000 And they're going to exist regardless of who wins, just like the IRS is going to exist.

01:35:45.000 So someone has to reform that and dismantle that. 0.91

01:35:48.000 And Trump, I think Trump in theory wants to, but he has to surround himself with people who have the balls to do that. 0.99

01:35:55.000 And they will literally kill you. 0.99

01:35:57.000 I mean, in Mexico, they kill people who try to change it. 0.99

01:36:01.000 Now, that's a whole other subject.

01:36:06.000 You could do something that's more profitable.

01:36:08.000 Like, there is the whole remove one thing and add something new that's better.

01:36:12.000 You could help the cartels become a more profitable industry in doing things that are not so horrendous as drug and human trafficking.

01:36:19.000 Human beings are worth more than drugs.

01:36:21.000 Yeah, so another industry completely, like, industries can shift.

01:36:25.000 That's one way of tech, you know, mining industries.

01:36:29.000 If the cartel just learns to code, maybe they can program open source.

01:36:32.000 Software development.

01:36:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:36:33.000 I mean, I'm throwing things at a wall right now, but that's one moment in the In the film, and it's in the very – please watch this movie.

01:36:39.000 In the very first moment of this movie, there's a scene where I actually go to California, and you can actually see the cartel at the fence with a saw, okay?

01:36:49.000 And they're buzzing through the steel, these steel beams in California.

01:36:53.000 And I had planted recording devices on the beam so you could hear what they're saying.

01:36:56.000 And they're saying, we need to get paid.

01:36:59.000 And behind those men are people with guns.

01:37:02.000 Yeah.

01:37:03.000 And if those guys retreat from their job of cutting through the fence, they'll get killed.

01:37:10.000 And I am watching this, and I pull up, and I'm startled, and they see me, and there's this whole incredible sequence of events.

01:37:18.000 And while the cartel is cutting through the steel beam with a massive saw, a Border Patrol agent is just watching.

01:37:26.000 And I run up to the agent.

01:37:27.000 He's cutting through the steel!

01:37:27.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

01:37:29.000 And the agent shrugs his shoulders and says, I'm sitting here.

01:37:32.000 I'm just sitting here waiting.

01:37:34.000 I said, what is your purpose? 1.00

01:37:36.000 You're a law enforcement officer because I'm—why don't you just shoot that guy? 1.00

01:37:41.000 It's just—it begs so many questions, and it's so broken.

01:37:45.000 We're going to go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with everyone you know, leave us a good review if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, and become a member at TimCast.com because not only— Will you get to hang out in our Discord community so you'll meet like-minded individuals?

01:38:02.000 You'll make friends if you're looking for people to talk to and you want to share ideas with and just, you know, share good ideas with people that you might have.

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01:38:10.000 Click Join Us and that members-only show will be coming up at 10.

01:38:12.000 But I also have a big announcement.

01:38:14.000 Ladies and gentlemen, next week for the election, what are we going to do?

01:38:18.000 We are going to be in Nashville at the Daily Wire Studios.

01:38:22.000 We are going to have our own studio set up where on election night we will have both shows next to each other.

01:38:28.000 And we're basically going to jump back and forth.

01:38:30.000 I don't know the exact timing or structure, but Tim Castile will be live all night for the election.

01:38:35.000 Daily Wire is planning on doing the same thing.

01:38:37.000 And then we're going to, at some point, get up and I'm going to go over there.

01:38:40.000 They're going to come over here.

01:38:41.000 And it's going to be a huge party.

01:38:42.000 So it's actually really amazing that our crew and their crew and many others that were invited to this big election night party will be involved in this massive show.

01:38:49.000 Not only is Daily Wire inviting a bunch of talent, but they have a bunch of invitees to their party.

01:38:53.000 We are doing something similar.

01:38:55.000 So there's going to be a bunch of familiar faces.

01:38:57.000 I'm really excited for this.

01:38:58.000 And I also want to give them a shout out, too, because you guys know I'm a huge fan of Am I Racist?

01:39:03.000 And just as we're talking about just winning the culture war, they just launched Am I Racist on their Daily Wire members platform.

01:39:12.000 So I think Matt Walsh and the crew hit this one out of the park.

01:39:16.000 It's a 10 out of 10.

01:39:17.000 I really respect it.

01:39:18.000 This is not a sponsor post or anything like that.

01:39:19.000 They didn't ask to sponsor this or have me say this.

01:39:22.000 I just genuinely think it was a great film.

01:39:24.000 And I think you guys should check it out.

01:39:25.000 And we're really excited to have this trip to Nashville.

01:39:27.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

01:39:28.000 It's going to be a big show.

01:39:29.000 So I was waiting to say anything until the last minute, but that's the plan.

01:39:32.000 And then throughout the week, it's going to be awesome.

01:39:35.000 We'll be doing the show from Daily Wire Studios.

01:39:37.000 In the meantime, we will read your super chats.

01:39:40.000 Shane H. Wilder says, Justin Robert Young, political historian and host of Politics, Politics, Politics, asked to hold off on placing blame with the fire too early.

01:39:49.000 The left immediately went after him, calling him far right.

01:39:52.000 Interesting.

01:39:53.000 We don't know who did it.

01:39:54.000 Just that it is happening and it's scary.

01:39:56.000 How about that?

01:39:57.000 Derek asks, James, any plans to release the film to the masses prior to the election?

01:40:02.000 Yeah.

01:40:05.000 The number one comment I'm getting is why aren't you, you know, everyone needs to see this.

01:40:10.000 And by the way, that, I want to answer this question, but the question I have is, I think this film is, you've seen it, it's a moral film, not a political film.

01:40:18.000 It's politically agnostic.

01:40:19.000 I gotta mention too, actually, one of my friends was like, is James pro-immigrant?

01:40:23.000 Like, I don't understand.

01:40:24.000 Really?

01:40:24.000 Because you're just tracking what's going on with trafficking.

01:40:27.000 Right.

01:40:28.000 And it's like – but he's concerned about the victims of trafficking.

01:40:31.000 I'm like, it's not a question of – People are so Manichaean that they have to frame it that way.

01:40:36.000 Yeah, I think – has there ever been a conservative movement film that appealed to liberals?

01:40:43.000 That stumped everybody because Walsh's film is great.

01:40:45.000 I love – I think the only documentarian I actually like is Matt Walsh.

01:40:49.000 I love his films.

01:40:50.000 I think 99 percent of people who buy the tickets are probably conservative.

01:40:53.000 Yep.

01:40:54.000 I've tried to create something here which will appeal to liberals, and I mean that sincerely.

01:40:59.000 But, Tim, you've been a journalist.

01:41:01.000 Good journalism costs money, and you get what you pay for.

01:41:05.000 So I'm not going to make this free.

01:41:07.000 No great movie was ever free, as far as I'm concerned.

01:41:12.000 It's at tuckercarlson.com right now.

01:41:15.000 Can we point out, I mean, the New York Times has millions of paying subscribers.

01:41:19.000 This is a challenge for us.

01:41:21.000 I know it's not easy for everybody, but the left is more than willing to pay for their ideological victories.

01:41:28.000 And that's the challenge.

01:41:29.000 It is the resources used to build institutions.

01:41:33.000 And I don't think – I actually think the film – to answer the super chat question, I think the film is going to be more mainstream and more successful, not in a heightened political state.

01:41:41.000 To your point, you've got to solve this crisis when Trump wins.

01:41:45.000 And I will try to get this movie in theaters.

01:41:47.000 I think it will go mainstream.

01:41:49.000 But we need – good journalism costs money.

01:41:51.000 There's a lot of free content out there.

01:41:53.000 Really good.

01:41:54.000 I spent a year on this film.

01:41:55.000 I directed it.

01:41:56.000 I sat in an edit room for six months, seven foreign languages, 1,200 hours of footage.

01:42:01.000 Great journalism is going to cost you.

01:42:03.000 Oh, dude, the scene with the Chinese den or whatever, these migrants that are Chinese, and the guy wanting drugs, this is crazy. 0.97

01:42:11.000 It's wild.

01:42:12.000 It's like Curb Your Enthusiasm.

01:42:14.000 Seriously, he walks past like, the press is here now.

01:42:16.000 You got an effing bulletproof.

01:42:18.000 I mean, it's real to watch it.

01:42:19.000 Yeah.

01:42:19.000 Oh, dude.

01:42:20.000 Yeah.

01:42:21.000 Alright, alright.

01:42:21.000 Here we go.

01:42:22.000 Sideways says, Nah, that joke was hilarious.

01:42:24.000 People really just can't take a joke.

01:42:26.000 Left and right.

01:42:27.000 Seems like only people who grew up on the internet liked it.

01:42:30.000 But either way, it's like if you don't like the joke, I saw some people who are Puerto Rican on the internet, they were like, I think the joke bombed, but I don't, I'm not mad at the guy, I don't care. 0.68

01:42:37.000 It's just like, it's whatever.

01:42:39.000 I'm not mad at jokes.

01:42:40.000 Dave Chappelle, this is what I said, I was like, I am shocked.

01:42:43.000 You know, I was like one of the Krasensteins said, you know, I can't believe you made this joke.

01:42:47.000 And I was like, I agree.

01:42:48.000 When Dave Chappelle made fun of Asians, I was shocked.

01:42:51.000 I was outraged that Netflix would allow such racism.

01:42:55.000 Are we really supposed to care that comedians make jokes like this?

01:42:58.000 Come on.

01:42:59.000 Well, in the after part of the show, I'll play a slightly not-too-raunchy clip.

01:43:03.000 It's a roast.

01:43:04.000 It's just a roast.

01:43:05.000 Is it funny?

01:43:06.000 I don't know.

01:43:07.000 Maybe not for kids, though.

01:43:07.000 Do you find a roast funny?

01:43:08.000 Not for kids.

01:43:09.000 Not for kids.

01:43:10.000 Yeah, there we go.

01:43:11.000 All right, Jacob Bolley says, Tim and Panel, how would you all feel with this reform?

01:43:15.000 States keep their number of electoral votes under the Constitution, but they are awarded proportionally.

01:43:19.000 For example, under this, Biden would have won 2020, 272 to 265.

01:43:24.000 I don't know what that means, proportionally.

01:43:26.000 Electoral votes are a combination of their seats in Congress.

01:43:31.000 So what does that mean?

01:43:32.000 I don't know.

01:43:34.000 Right?

01:43:34.000 If they have one member of Congress, that's one vote, and they get two senators, that's three votes.

01:43:38.000 So I don't know what you mean, sir.

01:43:42.000 Alright, what is this?

01:43:43.000 What have we here?

01:43:45.000 SBC says bop was used like thought long before it was used to describe the popularity of songs.

01:43:50.000 It's an old Houston colloquialism.

01:43:53.000 Is that the term that you used?

01:43:55.000 Yeah, bop.

01:43:55.000 Bop?

01:43:56.000 I shouldn't explain the meaning of it, though.

01:43:56.000 What's thaw?

01:43:59.000 When you use it like thaw, it's too vulgar.

01:44:01.000 That's a bop?

01:44:02.000 That's the gas?

01:44:03.000 That's the riz?

01:44:05.000 No.

01:44:06.000 Oh, a thaw is a hot person?

01:44:08.000 What?

01:44:09.000 A thaw is a hot...

01:44:10.000 That means that hoe over there. 1.00

01:44:11.000 Oh.

01:44:11.000 Yeah.

01:44:12.000 Yeah.

01:44:13.000 Yeah, a bop is like the hoe over there of songs? 1.00

01:44:16.000 No.

01:44:17.000 Bop.

01:44:17.000 Urban Dictionary.

01:44:18.000 Bop is either the song or a bop is a thought, but I can't explain the bop who's a thought.

01:44:24.000 I can't explain why. 0.99

01:44:26.000 You bop the thought if you're having sex with hoes. 1.00

01:44:28.000 It's not a verb. 0.97

01:44:30.000 Dex and Dice LLC says, ew, is it?

01:44:33.000 Rakdos for life. 1.00

01:44:34.000 LOL, what say you, Moon Lord?

01:44:35.000 I thought it was black and red last week when I was thinking about it.

01:44:38.000 Rakdos. 0.99

01:44:39.000 I was like, I bet he's black and red.

01:44:41.000 And then it showed that his favorite card, we're talking about J.D. Vance, by the way.

01:44:44.000 Yeah, but it's monocolor back then.

01:44:44.000 His favorite color is the Phyrex.

01:44:46.000 What is it?

01:44:47.000 His favorite card was Yagma's Bargain.

01:44:48.000 Of which I pulled mine.

01:44:48.000 Yagma's Bargain.

01:44:49.000 Amazing card.

01:44:50.000 It's yours, actually, I think.

01:44:51.000 The Yagma's Bargain? 0.97

01:44:52.000 I think it's yours.

01:44:53.000 It is.

01:44:54.000 It's banned from Commander because you have 40 health.

01:44:54.000 Yeah.

01:44:56.000 Okay, well, let's pause.

01:44:58.000 They ran a smear against J.D. Vance.

01:45:00.000 I was loving this.

01:45:02.000 I knew it.

01:45:02.000 I knew it was black and red.

01:45:03.000 He's not Rectos.

01:45:04.000 We'll find out.

01:45:05.000 This is Earth's Destiny.

01:45:06.000 Okay, they ran a smear against JD Vance saying that his favorite Magic the Gathering card can prove something about his dark ambitions.

01:45:14.000 It's just a good card, though.

01:45:15.000 And so he said, when I was 13, I played Magic the Gathering.

01:45:19.000 The problem is when you're 15, the girls aren't interested in guys playing Magic the Gathering, so I stopped.

01:45:24.000 He was asked what his favorite card was.

01:45:26.000 He said, Yawgmoth's Bargain.

01:45:28.000 So, for those that don't know anything about magic, there's five colors.

01:45:32.000 Each color represents, has an identity.

01:45:34.000 There's white and black, red, green, and blue.

01:45:37.000 Blue is control, green is growth, red is passion and aggression, white is honor and order, and black is ambition and sacrifice.

01:45:48.000 So because he said his favorite card was a black magic card, they were arguing, a Democrat literally said, this represents how he would sell his soul for power.

01:45:58.000 And I'm just like, guys...

01:46:01.000 Literally, it's a children's game, okay?

01:46:03.000 I mean, adults play it, too, because it's a strategy game, and it's fun.

01:46:05.000 But I'm like, if a 13-year-old kid is playing a wizard game with black magic, it's not because he wants to sell his soul for power.

01:46:12.000 It's because he wants to play a strategy game where he casts a fireball on his friend.

01:46:16.000 And if he's using Yawgma's Bargain, it's because he's good. 0.84

01:46:19.000 The card is awesome.

01:46:21.000 In 1999, if he was playing that card, it's simply because that was the best card.

01:46:25.000 It's amazing.

01:46:25.000 That was it.

01:46:26.000 Yeah, it makes sense that it's his favorite card.

01:46:28.000 That's like my Tolerian Academy.

01:46:29.000 Imagine if they said, J.D. Vance plays chess, and his favorite piece is the queen.

01:46:35.000 I'd be like, okay.

01:46:36.000 That shows he wants power because the queen can move in every direction as far as it wants. 0.99

01:46:40.000 I'd be like, no, it's just a good piece. 0.74

01:46:42.000 His choice of white indicates his racism.

01:46:44.000 Yes, exactly. 0.91

01:46:45.000 When he plays chess, he prefers to play white.

01:46:47.000 Well, white's got a small advantage. 0.99

01:46:48.000 That proves he's racist. 0.74

01:46:50.000 That's basically what they did.

01:46:52.000 Anyway, I was loving it because any opportunity to talk about Magic the Gathering is fun.

01:46:55.000 Oh, it's so hot.

01:46:58.000 Alright, here we go.

01:46:59.000 Acoustic Theory says, there is another case of eating the dogs.

01:47:02.000 It's an outlandish comment.

01:47:03.000 Oh, this is another case of eating the dogs.

01:47:05.000 But it highlights the real problem that I didn't know about.

01:47:07.000 There's an actual real problem with landfill space in Puerto Rico.

01:47:10.000 A lot of people are saying that the greater context is that there's...

01:47:15.000 Landfill problems in Puerto Rico and with the hurricane damage, he was saying a lot of stuff was destroyed.

01:47:20.000 And the news around it was basically like, hey, this stuff needs to get fixed.

01:47:25.000 But the media doesn't care.

01:47:26.000 They don't care about comedy.

01:47:28.000 Any opportunity.

01:47:29.000 And so I don't know.

01:47:30.000 I think it's probably fair for people who are like, maybe you shouldn't have an insult roast comic this close in the election or something.

01:47:35.000 Fair criticism.

01:47:36.000 But I like comedy.

01:47:37.000 I think Tony Hinchcliffe is a hilarious guy.

01:47:39.000 And I thought the jokes were all funny.

01:47:41.000 It's like a forum.

01:47:43.000 You wear a tuxedo to a black tie event.

01:47:47.000 Maybe it's just one of those sorts of things.

01:47:49.000 You just don't do certain things certain places.

01:47:51.000 But I don't know if that's true, actually.

01:47:54.000 Michael Villafana says, I'm Puerto Rican and I thought the joke was freaking hilarious.

01:47:59.000 My mom, who was born in Puerto Rico, would have laughed too. 0.98

01:48:01.000 She always called PR trash. 0.99

01:48:04.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:48:06.000 It's funny, too, how there's a lot of Puerto Ricans who are like, I thought it was funny.

01:48:09.000 And there was one I saw, they posted on an accident, like, I'm more offended at the white liberals acting like they're offended for me.

01:48:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:16.000 It's like the white liberals thought it was funny, though.

01:48:19.000 A lot of people are pointing out that there's, like, real issues in Puerto Rico with, like, their waste management.

01:48:24.000 So it's like, it has a kernel of truth.

01:48:28.000 All right.

01:48:29.000 What have we here?

01:48:30.000 Wyatt Caldenberg says, Tim, Madison Square Garden has moved four times.

01:48:34.000 The 1939 building is not the same building as today.

01:48:36.000 MSNBC never fact check its own news reports.

01:48:42.000 That's right.

01:48:43.000 The Care of the Bear says, Canuck here, Puerto Rico has a landfill problem, thus a garbage problem. 0.95

01:48:47.000 Kill Tony wasn't wrong or racist or whatever.

01:48:49.000 Also, can you be racist against a country for criticizing the state of the country, like its government?

01:48:54.000 No.

01:48:55.000 I don't think it's racist to be like, if you were to say, insert African nation has a problem with waste, that's not racist, you're criticizing government.

01:49:05.000 Yeah, I'll say that all the time, so.

01:49:07.000 Yeah.

01:49:10.000 Logic Plague says burning ballots gives someone the ability to say, see, we have to accept ballots post-election.

01:49:18.000 Or it gives them the ability to be like, see, the election is compromised because ballots were destroyed.

01:49:23.000 That's crazy.

01:49:24.000 Ginger McEyser says, a pick six is an interception taken for a touchdown.

01:49:28.000 Yeah, you can't run a play.

01:49:30.000 You can't run a pick six.

01:49:32.000 It can happen in football.

01:49:33.000 Oh, it's like you're not planning for it to happen.

01:49:35.000 Correct.

01:49:36.000 And he said they ran a pick six.

01:49:38.000 He said AOC can run a mean pick six.

01:49:40.000 Yeah.

01:49:40.000 And they're like, how do you run a pick six?

01:49:42.000 No.

01:49:43.000 What does that mean, pick six?

01:49:44.000 It means that someone picked off the ball, interception, and then they ran it back for six points.

01:49:49.000 Oh, I see, I see.

01:49:51.000 Ah, okay.

01:49:52.000 I looked that up, full transparency.

01:49:54.000 Yeah, if it's about skateboarding or Magic the Gathering, I can tell you literally everything, but if it's football, I don't know anything about that stuff.

01:50:00.000 Although I do know that SNL was really funny where he's like, we'll play football, and they're like, and this is the game where you kick the ball with your feet?

01:50:06.000 No, you throw a ball with your hands.

01:50:11.000 Football Americano.

01:50:12.000 That's right.

01:50:14.000 What have we here?

01:50:16.000 The horrible Miss Drake says, ballot box fire seems like a false flag. 0.77

01:50:20.000 The left is extreme and the right hates mail-in ballots.

01:50:22.000 I wouldn't be surprised if a Republican is blamed.

01:50:25.000 I don't know. 0.98

01:50:26.000 Occam's Razor, just a crazy guy doing a crazy thing.

01:50:29.000 You know, simplest explanation here.

01:50:31.000 Possibly.

01:50:32.000 Yeah.

01:50:33.000 They should not be in an unattended box.

01:50:35.000 Yeah, they should be locked.

01:50:36.000 Should all be locked.

01:50:37.000 They are locked.

01:50:37.000 I guess you can still slide stuff into it.

01:50:38.000 They're locked, but it doesn't matter.

01:50:39.000 They shouldn't be in there.

01:50:41.000 Yeah, there should be.

01:50:42.000 No early voting.

01:50:43.000 Just, no. 0.97

01:50:45.000 That's ridiculous. 0.68

01:50:45.000 Voting month? 0.68

01:50:46.000 That's ridiculous. 0.62

01:50:47.000 Election day should be a holiday, and everybody gets to go vote if they so choose.

01:50:52.000 It should not be mandatory either.

01:50:53.000 I don't know.

01:50:54.000 I'd be out of town if that were the case.

01:50:57.000 Yeah, that's too bad.

01:50:58.000 Me too.

01:50:59.000 So we have to go vote early, but I still think if we were in a circumstance where you had to be here to vote, we'd be here to vote.

01:51:08.000 Yep.

01:51:11.000 John says, uh, what's it?

01:51:13.000 Cerro Sanguinas.

01:51:14.000 There you go.

01:51:15.000 People in Arizona were caught on video calling votes wrong.

01:51:18.000 Dems registered R to vote for Nikki Haley. 1.00

01:51:20.000 Tim thinks we're stupid. 1.00

01:51:22.000 Why? 1.00

01:51:22.000 Because I'm saying there should be three people counting each ballot? 1.00

01:51:26.000 What is that? 1.00

01:51:26.000 How is that stupid? 1.00

01:51:27.000 You want only one person ready to be a Democrat to count your votes? 1.00

01:51:30.000 Is that your argument?

01:51:32.000 For real?

01:51:35.000 Okay.

01:51:36.000 So I don't know what you expect to happen.

01:51:39.000 This is the issue that people don't understand.

01:51:52.000 The Democrats are going to say, oh, but there's hundreds of millions of ballots.

01:51:54.000 I mean, how are you going to count all these things?

01:51:57.000 Because you only have, like in one county, 300-something people in a small area and a handful of people count the votes and then they all agree and then that number gets sent up and it's decentralized.

01:52:08.000 The number gets added to the database and at the top we see what the number is.

01:52:11.000 And changing one won't be the big enough move to change the bigger picture.

01:52:17.000 That's the game.

01:52:20.000 Alright.

01:52:20.000 Stonemason has a music cast and I'm late.

01:52:22.000 Thanks.

01:52:23.000 Congrats.

01:52:24.000 That's right.

01:52:24.000 We have a new song called Hunger Inside coming out on Halloween at midnight.

01:52:29.000 I want to play that promo tonight.

01:52:31.000 Let's play it before we end the main show.

01:52:31.000 We'll play the promo.

01:52:33.000 50,000 people need to hear it.

01:52:34.000 We'll play it right at the end.

01:52:36.000 And then James O'Keefe is going to play Plush.

01:52:38.000 He's going to sing Plush by Stunt Temple Pilots on the members only show.

01:52:42.000 Everyone's been waiting for this moment.

01:52:44.000 Yes, I'm waiting for this moment.

01:52:45.000 It's my favorite moment.

01:52:47.000 That's great.

01:52:48.000 Joe Spinello says, Wronged him.

01:52:50.000 We didn't always use paper ballots for the first 50 years.

01:52:52.000 We went to the courthouse, put our hand on a Bible.

01:52:54.000 The clerk held and swore under penalty of perjury that we haven't voted already and loudly made our vote.

01:53:00.000 Interesting.

01:53:01.000 Bring that back, I guess.

01:53:03.000 Everyone swears on the Bible. 0.63

01:53:06.000 All right.

01:53:08.000 It'd be cool if they just shout out like a cuss word, though. 1.00

01:53:10.000 I saw that supposed to swear.

01:53:12.000 Dane Peterson says, It's my 47th birthday tomorrow, and all I want is for everyone wanting a Trump presidency to go vote.

01:53:18.000 All I want is for everyone wanting a Trump presidency to go vote for him.

01:53:22.000 I'm in deep red Texas, and I will definitely be voting red straight ticket.

01:53:25.000 I implore to do the same.

01:53:27.000 Stop the bleeding.

01:53:29.000 I would just love to see California's got 10 million Republicans and like 6 million vote.

01:53:34.000 You guys want to know a secret?

01:53:37.000 AOC won her election in New York with about, I think, 79,000 votes.

01:53:42.000 There's an estimated 180,000 to 200,000 Republican voters in her district or conservative leaning voters. 1.00

01:53:48.000 You only need half of the Republicans in her district, and you would get a Republican in New York. 1.00

01:53:54.000 But they won't go.

01:53:56.000 They might now.

01:53:56.000 They might.

01:53:57.000 That's the truth.

01:53:58.000 If enough Americans become activated in one direction, they control the political narrative.

01:54:02.000 Could you imagine AOC losing to the Republican?

01:54:05.000 Not anymore.

01:54:06.000 If you are in her district and you're conservative, get everyone you know to vote and you will win and she will lose.

01:54:13.000 How about this?

01:54:14.000 Even if she wins, what if it was close?

01:54:17.000 Imagine she'd be sweating bullets and she might start changing her tune, realizing that she could lose her election. 1.00

01:54:24.000 I wish, though.

01:54:25.000 It's looking like in some jurisdictions, like Pennsylvania, some of the polls are showing the Democrats winning the Senate race.

01:54:25.000 I wish.

01:54:31.000 But Trump is slightly ahead for the presidency because Kamala's that bad. 1.00

01:54:36.000 I don't care.

01:54:59.000 Yeah.

01:55:00.000 Christians vote in low proportions. 0.99

01:55:03.000 Throughout the 20th century, it was always about change the people who are in the middle.

01:55:07.000 That was always what the strategy was politically.

01:55:09.000 The word is that a higher density of Christians are not coming to vote.

01:55:13.000 And for whatever reasons, Christians, like actual devout, they do not vote. 0.99

01:55:17.000 I don't know.

01:55:18.000 That's why in Charlestown, you have a liberal city council.

01:55:25.000 And a Latin mass.

01:55:25.000 Yeah.

01:55:26.000 And I'm like, how is this possible?

01:55:28.000 And councilmen told me it's because the Christians won't vote.

01:55:31.000 They just won't do it.

01:55:32.000 Why?

01:55:33.000 What I was explaining to me is that many of them think that their duty is to God, not the state.

01:55:37.000 So they think that going to church is voting, and they ignore their earthly duties.

01:55:43.000 And it's greatly offensive to a lot of people.

01:55:45.000 Because I'm sure there's a lot of Christians who are like, no, you must fulfill your divine mandate here on earth with your responsibilities and your duties.

01:55:53.000 But the way it was explained to me is that a lot of these religious people feel like going to church is their duty and they need do nothing else.

01:56:01.000 I saw, like, Kamala supporters rallying in Charlestown on Sunday.

01:56:05.000 Did you see that?

01:56:06.000 Did you drive past?

01:56:06.000 No.

01:56:07.000 I drove past these people and I didn't see, I looked down the street, you can see literally this church and then these people with abortion as healthcare signs.

01:56:17.000 Wow.

01:56:18.000 Well, the...

01:56:18.000 Where are we?

01:56:19.000 The old abandoned pawn shop across from the casino is the new GOP headquarters.

01:56:24.000 I saw all the signs and I was like, what's happened to the old casino pond?

01:56:28.000 And it's got a big sign saying GOP headquarters.

01:56:30.000 I was like, oh, did you look at that?

01:56:31.000 There you go.

01:56:32.000 Congratulations.

01:56:34.000 Alright, let's grab some more.

01:56:36.000 Uh-oh, what is this?

01:56:39.000 Smith Creek Farms says we lost our cat Pickle to FIV today.

01:56:42.000 But in happier news, thank you so much for shouting out our biz last year.

01:56:46.000 You guys helped us grow more than you can imagine.

01:56:48.000 You guys are doing great work.

01:56:49.000 Well, shout out to you.

01:56:50.000 Thanks for the super chat.

01:56:51.000 Sorry to hear about your cat.

01:56:53.000 That's unfortunate.

01:56:54.000 Pickle.

01:56:55.000 Pickle.

01:56:56.000 That's no good.

01:56:57.000 That's no good.

01:56:59.000 Oh, someone mentioned this is interesting, too.

01:56:59.000 All right.

01:57:01.000 Barrett says, also, tax on unrealized gains.

01:57:05.000 Big for billionaires.

01:57:06.000 Yep.

01:57:07.000 A lot of billionaires are like, we will not let this woman win. 1.00

01:57:10.000 Yeah.

01:57:11.000 Yeah.

01:57:11.000 That's like Zuckerberg, all those guys.

01:57:13.000 Bezos.

01:57:13.000 What an insane concept that is.

01:57:16.000 Lizard for Thursday says, I run a local election.

01:57:20.000 Voter interference is against the law.

01:57:22.000 Stopping a resident from voting is just that.

01:57:25.000 Something a fellow resident can do is challenge another ballot for whatever their reason is.

01:57:29.000 Key is fellow resident initiative.

01:57:33.000 Interesting.

01:57:36.000 says Tim there's several videos of ballot boxes on fire crazy Bridget May says Vancouver isn't deep Suburbs are red.

01:57:46.000 Joe Kent.

01:57:46.000 Wow.

01:57:48.000 That's crazy, man.

01:57:51.000 Mizumori says, in your Supernatural video, you should have cited the Next Generation episode, The Devil's Due.

01:57:56.000 The woman impersonates the devil using advanced technology. 0.98

01:57:59.000 This is in response to an argument I made about the idea that something is supernatural is nonsense.

01:58:05.000 So, um...

01:58:07.000 There's an argument on Twitter where someone was saying, it was Colin Wright, he was saying that just because we don't know the origin of life doesn't mean that we can make a supernatural explanation for it.

01:58:16.000 But I just was like, okay, well, define supernatural.

01:58:20.000 And the problem is supernatural, he responded with, not natural, and I just...

01:58:25.000 Yeah, I think God's...

01:58:26.000 It's not the definition of supernatural.

01:58:27.000 God's formation of life could be like a wave guide.

01:58:30.000 I asked Jim Tour about this, who's a chemist, works leading pioneer graphene scientist on Earth.

01:58:34.000 He's also a creationist, and thinks, we talk about the, where does life come from, and physics and chemistry has been trying to figure this out, and I'm like, could you use sound to guide amino acids in a wave pool to create life?

01:58:46.000 And he's like, not as we know it.

01:58:48.000 But that doesn't mean it's not possible.

01:58:50.000 I think there's some sort of guidance that's causing things to form and to matter.

01:58:56.000 My point is that there are a lot of people who are atheists and who are like, the only way to explain something is based on what we think we know.

01:59:04.000 And I'm like, what?

01:59:07.000 Hypotheses exist for a reason.

01:59:09.000 And the argument is, the idea of a grand creator is supernatural, therefore it's implausible and shouldn't be considered.

01:59:15.000 And I'm like, that's actually really bad science.

01:59:18.000 Just because God exists and you don't understand the mechanisms by which God exists doesn't mean it's supernatural.

01:59:24.000 It's just beyond our current understanding, which is fine to say that's what supernatural means if that's what you're trying to define it as.

01:59:30.000 So one definition of supernatural is beyond our current scientific understanding.

01:59:36.000 But if that's what the definition you're using is, to then argue we should not consider the supernatural is literally saying, if we are going to try and determine how something came to be, we should not pursue ideas that exist outside of what we already think we know.

01:59:50.000 Yeah, don't assume that something supernatural is the way it is, but be open to the idea that it might be.

01:59:57.000 All right, everybody.

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02:00:50.000 I like that guy a lot.

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02:01:11.000 Now for the members only, we're going to have James O'Keefe sing Plush by Stuntable Pilots.

02:01:15.000 But if you've got one quick 40 second or one minute, I'm going to give you a preview of the new song Hunger Inside as per the request of Ian.

02:01:22.000 And here you go.

02:01:25.000 Wait, in fact, I have to unmute it because it is muted.

02:01:29.000 So let's start it over.

02:01:31.000 We'll be right back.

02:02:01.000 We'll be right back.

02:02:05.000 Trump dance.

02:02:07.000 There you go.

02:02:09.000 So that'll be out this Thursday at midnight.

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