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00:02:21.000 It's our greatest fear realized.

00:02:24.000 Democrats launching Project Codename Sam.

00:02:28.000 Speaking to American men.

00:02:30.000 Or speaking with American men.

00:02:31.000 Yeah.

00:02:31.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

00:02:33.000 This is laughably absurd.

00:02:35.000 Democrats are spending $20 million on a project to learn how to talk to men.

00:02:41.000 Because they don't know how.

00:02:42.000 I'm loving this.

00:02:43.000 At the same time, they're on their quest for their liberal Joe Rogan.

00:02:46.000 And they just don't get it.

00:02:50.000 We're going to break this down, but it comes down to basically your policies are really bad.

00:02:54.000 You're elitists, and the fact that you're trying to learn how to talk to men shows exactly what the problem is.

00:02:59.000 You don't act like people, just like regular people who have a conversation.

00:03:04.000 Prominent writer for The Atlantic said, I have a suggestion.

00:03:07.000 Just create a bunch of health podcasts and then trick people at the very last minute into voting Democrat, which is exactly what they're doing now, and they can't understand it.

00:03:17.000 Now, of course, Maybe it comes and goes in waves and the moderates that joined the right will shift back depending on what happens.

00:03:24.000 But we'll see two big projects from Democrats because they lost an election.

00:03:28.000 We got that.

00:03:29.000 Then we got Donald Trump launching his Truth Social post where he claims Canada is considering becoming the 51st state.

00:03:35.000 They're not, but it's funny that he said it.

00:03:37.000 We'll talk about that, plus a bunch of other news.

00:03:40.000 Obviously, there was a big controversy surrounding Jordan Peterson.

00:03:45.000 Who appeared on a Jubilee show.

00:03:47.000 One Christian versus 20 atheists. 0.80

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00:03:52.000 And then they had to change the title.

00:03:53.000 And now the whole episode makes no sense and everyone's ragging on Jordan Peterson from left to right.

00:03:57.000 So we'll get into all that.

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00:06:04.000 Tim, so good to be back.

00:06:06.000 Welcome back.

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00:06:50.000 Phil?

00:06:50.000 Hello, everybody.

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00:06:55.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:56.000 Here's a story from The Independent.

00:06:58.000 Democrats spending millions to learn how to speak to American men and win back the working class.

00:07:04.000 It's not going to happen.

00:07:05.000 Look at this photo of these.

00:07:06.000 I love it.

00:07:06.000 They're like, let's get a picture of a guy doing what appears to be electrical work.

00:07:10.000 I think it's electrical work, right?

00:07:12.000 Party leaders are holing up in luxury hotel rooms, okay, problem number one, on a strategy codenamed SAM or Speaking with American Men, a strategic plan, which of course would be SWAMISP, not SAM, to try and convince working class to vote their way again according to a report.

00:07:31.000 They've blown millions of dollars, upwards of $20 million on their efforts, with donors and strategists holing up in luxury hotel rooms brainstorming how to convince working-class men to return to the party.

00:07:42.000 The plan code named SAM, we get it, promises to use the funds to study the syntax, language, and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.

00:07:51.000 Along with this, we had this report from the New York Times.

00:07:54.000 Democrats throw money at a problem countering GOP clout.

00:07:58.000 At private gatherings, strategists and donors are swapping ideas to help the party capture the digital mojo that helped President Trump win.

00:08:05.000 Yes, there's a price tag.

00:08:06.000 Hey, look!

00:08:07.000 It's everybody's favorite TDS cheerleader, Brian Tyler Cohen, who I think 9 out of 10 of his videos are just pictures of Trump.

00:08:13.000 I'm not kidding.

00:08:14.000 Go to his YouTube channel.

00:08:15.000 Well, don't, but I guess if you do, you'll see literally nothing but Trump is bad in oh so many ways.

00:08:22.000 But hey, you know what?

00:08:22.000 It works for him.

00:08:23.000 He games the algorithm and he makes money off it.

00:08:25.000 Now, to exemplify this, I have this tweet from Derek Thompson, who I think hits the nail on the head with the hammer as to why Democrats cannot figure this out.

00:08:35.000 Derek Thompson, of course, from The Atlantic writes, What Democrats really need is a way to reach people, especially young men who aren't consuming political news at all.

00:08:43.000 My plan, if donors are listening.

00:08:45.000 is that Democrats should create a men's health sleeper cell movement.

00:08:49.000 You astroturf liberal Joe Rogan by paying a bunch of ripped, great-looking male influencers to do three years of nonpolitical stuff, historical conspiracies, weird health-ish, supplement advocacy, etc.

00:09:02.000 And then in August of 2028, they're all contractually obligated to go, oh, by the way, vote for the Democrat.

00:09:09.000 What I absolutely love about that is he's saying, I know, let's trick people into voting Democrat, which didn't work the first time.

00:09:15.000 And additionally, this is what they did in 2016.

00:09:18.000 Prominent personalities and celebrities all came out and said, yay, Democrat.

00:09:21.000 The issue is you have weird policies. 0.99

00:09:25.000 Working class guys don't want to chop off little kids' balls. 0.97

00:09:28.000 And they don't want open borders. 0.97

00:09:30.000 They want their jobs back.

00:09:31.000 So Democrats, if they came out and they were like, I'm just like Joe Rogan.

00:09:36.000 The moon is a secret.

00:09:38.000 Terraforming base created by aliens and the pyramids can actually walk.

00:09:41.000 People are like, that's interesting. 0.99

00:09:42.000 And then he went, also, we should remove the testicles of children. 1.00

00:09:45.000 They'd be like, I'm not voting Democrat, dude. 1.00

00:09:47.000 It's not going to happen.

00:09:47.000 If Democrats want to win, they need to change their policies.

00:09:50.000 The problem is they really want these policies.

00:09:52.000 So you know what they're doing in Texas instead?

00:09:55.000 They're just running covertly in Texas.

00:09:58.000 They're running as Republicans.

00:10:00.000 They say all the right words as Republicans.

00:10:02.000 And then when they get to the statehouse, oops, they're Democrats.

00:10:06.000 Yep.

00:10:07.000 Oops, all Democrats.

00:10:08.000 That's the strategy.

00:10:09.000 I guess that's what they have to do.

00:10:11.000 They really do want these policies.

00:10:14.000 They're not going to walk away from them.

00:10:16.000 As a bro's bro, I'll give the Democrats some free advice because I know they won't follow it anyway because they are beholden to the far left.

00:10:23.000 The issue at hand here is that men don't want to be tone police and put up on endless purity tests.

00:10:30.000 They don't want to have to feel like they're walking around on eggshells when they're on a podcast or what have you.

00:10:34.000 So none of this would work because they'd say the wrong thing in a podcast and none of their viewers would end up forgiving them because of some, you know, misdeed that they've done in the past.

00:10:42.000 And there's no room for forgiveness in the far left space.

00:10:45.000 It's just an endless firing squad on one another.

00:10:48.000 So that's why I don't think this stuff is going to pan out for them.

00:10:51.000 The bros need space to feel comfortable being themselves, being a little bit off-colored.

00:10:57.000 And that is no longer permitted at all in these leftist spaces.

00:11:00.000 So men are ostracized out of their spaces, especially young men.

00:11:16.000 I don't think that there's going to be any confusion among young men.

00:11:22.000 When it comes to the position the left have regarding young men.

00:11:26.000 It's been so overstated.

00:11:30.000 It's been drilled into society, essentially.

00:11:33.000 You've got it all over pop culture.

00:11:35.000 the doofy husband that wouldn't be able to function if it wasn't for his brilliant wife that does everything.

00:11:42.000 That's something, that trope has been trotted out in every sitcom, in every, you know...

00:11:51.000 I mean, it's everywhere that you look, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

00:11:56.000 It's everywhere that men are considered bad, toxic masculinity.

00:11:59.000 Men are looked at as the problem, and women are looked at as the solution, according to Democrats. 0.87

00:12:03.000 There's no hiding that. 0.99

00:12:04.000 I want to push back in that while I would argue that the sitcom problem we have is that Homer Simpson is a moron who just magically succeeds at everything he does no matter what, and Peter Griffin is much the same. 0.76

00:12:21.000 They actually made a joke about it where Peter has a helicopter and Joe is like, how can you afford these things? 0.99

00:12:26.000 So they have the idiot, doofy, fat husband trope, but at least as far as it goes with Simpsons and Family Guy. 0.99

00:12:36.000 Homer's an astronaut. 1.00

00:12:37.000 He went to space.

00:12:38.000 Yeah, I mean, so fair enough.

00:12:40.000 So take that...

00:12:44.000 But the broad point still remains.

00:12:46.000 Toxic masculinity, there is no positive role models for men.

00:12:50.000 The idea of masculinity is looked at as overall just bad.

00:12:54.000 So fair point on Homer and stuff like that.

00:12:57.000 But I think that the overall point still stands.

00:12:59.000 Men have been demonized by the left.

00:13:01.000 Young men know it.

00:13:02.000 They've seen it.

00:13:03.000 They've grown up with it.

00:13:04.000 And they're not going to be attracted to the left just by Hassan saying, yo, bro, I go to the gym too.

00:13:11.000 That's just not going to work.

00:13:12.000 Yeah, I actually wonder who watches channels like his, you know?

00:13:18.000 I think it's mostly LGBTQ.

00:13:19.000 Men dressed like women. 0.98

00:13:21.000 Yeah, and probably many women. 0.64

00:13:22.000 Manly dressed women, you said? 1.00

00:13:23.000 I said men dressed like women. 0.96

00:13:25.000 See, where do they go to the restroom, though? 1.00

00:13:27.000 Because that's the brilliance on the right, is that if you can demonize them for going, you know, men dressed like women, for going into the women's room, and then they go into the men's room dressed like a woman? 0.98

00:13:38.000 It's a big loser.

00:13:40.000 Yeah, I mean, it is, but it's better for a man dressed like a woman to go into the men's room than for a man dressed like a woman to go into the woman's room. 0.98

00:13:48.000 I believe that.

00:13:50.000 It's tough to pick which one you prefer, I think.

00:13:52.000 I think the issue largely is that Democrats don't have sincere policy plans.

00:13:57.000 They have wacky ideas that they adhere to because you're supposed to, and that's it.

00:14:04.000 They don't want to deviate from those lines.

00:14:05.000 I think liberals all tend to have – don't get me wrong, conservatives have some of this too, but liberals tend to have a degree – like your degree of how far left you are is where you draw the line on what is acceptable socially.

00:14:19.000 So far left doesn't mean you're a socialist anymore.

00:14:22.000 It probably does correlate.

00:14:23.000 It just means that you buy into everything the left offers.

00:14:26.000 Then you have like the moderate left, and it's like, well, you're not going as far as some of these leftists, but you still don't like Trump.

00:14:32.000 And then you're liberal if – You can disagree with all those things, but you still hate Trump no matter what.

00:14:37.000 You won't recognize when the media lied to you.

00:14:39.000 You have to hate Trump.

00:14:40.000 You can agree on everything else.

00:14:42.000 You can call woke bad, but you're going to be a liberal.

00:14:43.000 That means you have to hate Trump.

00:14:45.000 And then you're conservative if you just disagree.

00:14:47.000 And so as long as that's the case, that means regular run-of-the-mill guys who are like, I don't really care that much about Trump at all.

00:14:53.000 They're like, well, then you're conservative.

00:14:54.000 It's like, okay, I guess.

00:14:56.000 The problem with Democrats is not how they're talking.

00:14:59.000 It's that they're basically saying to young men.

00:15:01.000 Do you like Trump?

00:15:02.000 And they go, don't really know much about him. 0.99

00:15:03.000 You're a white supremacist. 0.97

00:15:04.000 And they're like, okay, bye. 0.94

00:15:05.000 I think it's if you don't adhere to all of their ideological perspectives, then you're othered immediately.

00:15:11.000 So if you're a pro-choice, you are not welcome in Democrat circles.

00:15:15.000 If you're anti-immigration, if you want to build the wall, then you're not welcome in any of these circles.

00:15:20.000 If you don't believe in Medicare for all, you're not welcome in these circles.

00:15:23.000 And increasingly, if you're not a socialist or a communist, you're not welcome in these circles.

00:15:26.000 And you have to virtue signal to those people.

00:15:28.000 And within the party, those people will purity test and ostracize you because that's where the base is.

00:15:34.000 White pill way to read into this.

00:15:36.000 And it's that after decades of demonizing young white men, the Democrats are finally deciding that it's not a winning strategy and they're working to refocus outreach to them.

00:15:46.000 So I think this may indeed be a sign of a white boy summer to come. 0.97

00:15:49.000 Well, I actually think the Democrat strategy was white people don't have kids, so don't bet on them for the future. 0.94

00:15:56.000 Bet on—so they were probably looking at a combination of racial in-group preference, except for white liberals with a racial out-group preference, and they said, how do we build a coalition?

00:16:07.000 We're going to need something that brings together all races and white liberals, and that's why you end up with DEI.

00:16:13.000 So they're trying to unify all of these groups under one umbrella.

00:16:17.000 Then they basically say, we will take your job from you.

00:16:21.000 We will destroy your life unless you agree with every aspect of the psychotic ideology, which is a big tent that, you know, they're jamming puzzle pieces into spaces they don't fit.

00:16:30.000 The right is just like, you guys want to hang out and debate?

00:16:33.000 Like, sure.

00:16:34.000 I don't agree with you.

00:16:35.000 That's cool.

00:16:35.000 I don't agree with you.

00:16:36.000 Well, what should we do?

00:16:37.000 That's the right.

00:16:38.000 Largely, not completely.

00:16:40.000 It's become more a big tent, I feel.

00:16:41.000 I mean, yeah, but the thing is, that's because the left is so exclusive, right?

00:16:47.000 The left kicks everyone out that doesn't agree.

00:16:49.000 Again, this is something that we talked about a lot of times, but the reason that Donald Trump is in the Republican Party is because he used to be a Democrat, and now he wouldn't be welcome in the Democrat Party.

00:16:57.000 Same thing with JFK.

00:16:58.000 Same thing with Tulsi Gabbard.

00:16:59.000 Same thing with, you know, down the line.

00:17:01.000 There's many, many, many, many people that you can name in public life in the administration that used to be Democrat and have just normal person opinions.

00:17:10.000 But because they don't believe things like, you know, men can become women, they're excommunicated from the Democrat Party.

00:17:16.000 That's why the MAGA, you know, the MAGA big tent is what it is.

00:17:20.000 That's why we have the people that are, you know, pro-choice as well as people that are pro-life under the MAGA tent because it's a big tent, you know, party.

00:17:31.000 I want to pull up this clip.

00:17:33.000 We've got this from Hollywood Reporter.

00:17:35.000 Democrat comedians basically admitting they only target Donald Trump because of audience capture.

00:17:39.000 Listen to this.

00:17:40.000 that was going to be the title of one of my specials, Kill the Comedian.

00:17:43.000 Because it's just like, you know...

00:17:47.000 You're the only ones going after Trump.

00:17:49.000 It's like, the pressure to constantly talk about Trump.

00:17:51.000 It's like, we're also comedians.

00:17:53.000 You're all supposed to give people, provide people with a reprieve from thinking about Donald Trump for a minute, for an hour, for however long your show is.

00:18:01.000 You know, you want to provide that.

00:18:03.000 That's why I like also doing stand-up.

00:18:05.000 Because I'm so tired of it.

00:18:06.000 It's like, I've been there, done that.

00:18:08.000 Everyone knows how I feel.

00:18:09.000 I can't just keep banging this drum.

00:18:11.000 You weren't using your platform enough to speak about the issue.

00:18:18.000 What was that guy's name?

00:18:20.000 I forget these people's names.

00:18:22.000 What's his face?

00:18:23.000 This guy.

00:18:23.000 What's that guy's name?

00:18:24.000 I have no idea.

00:18:26.000 I know he does one of the nightly shows, but I have no idea.

00:18:29.000 Another one of those nightly shows that I never watch.

00:18:34.000 Seth Meyers.

00:18:35.000 Seth Meyers, okay.

00:18:36.000 Seth Meyers.

00:18:37.000 Okay.

00:18:38.000 There you go.

00:18:38.000 That's right.

00:18:38.000 That's Seth Meyers.

00:18:41.000 What I'm hearing from this, where he's like, I like doing stand-up because I'm tired of it sometimes, is that what actually is happening, media has decentralized to such a degree that anyone can get their opinions from anyone they want.

00:18:55.000 So if there's a guy who firmly believes the earth is both flat and hollow, and in fact is a donut, someone can find that and listen to it.

00:19:03.000 It used to be that you watched what was available.

00:19:06.000 Now, what they've found is their lowest common denominator is not liking Trump.

00:19:12.000 And so whether you're a socialist, a communist, an anarchist, or just some old lady who thinks Trump is a lizard, you will watch content that says Trump is bad. 0.67

00:19:22.000 And so that's what he's actually talking about.

00:19:24.000 It's not that the audience is demanding it.

00:19:26.000 It's that nothing else unifies people anymore.

00:19:30.000 There's no general conversation on news and politics.

00:19:33.000 It is.

00:19:34.000 We hate Trump.

00:19:35.000 So every nightly talk show starts with that.

00:19:38.000 This is a really great example.

00:19:39.000 Because when we were looking at these liberal YouTubers right now, the Democrats are looking to spend a lot of money on.

00:19:45.000 And you go to like David Pakman or Brian Tyler Cohen and almost every single video they do is just a photo of Trump and something bad written about him.

00:19:55.000 It'll say, Trump shocks audience with unhinged comments.

00:19:59.000 That's like not even specific.

00:20:00.000 It's just pure hatred of Trump driving these views.

00:20:03.000 And I look at it, I'm like, how do you get half a million views on this?

00:20:06.000 Probably the same people watching every video nonstop over and over again.

00:20:09.000 And Sean, who was doing research on this, said, hey, it's every nightly talk show is the exact same thing.

00:20:15.000 Every monologue from Colbert, from Myers, from Fallon, it's always, and Jimmy Kimmel, always the same thing.

00:20:21.000 Here's why Trump is bad.

00:20:23.000 Maybe Trump needs to just lay off the news for a little bit to see what happens to these people.

00:20:28.000 The point is, they don't actually care about Trump.

00:20:31.000 They just know that their ratings are predicated upon if they can say Trump is bad today.

00:20:37.000 Because if they came out and they were, you know, look, I have a couple of videos I did about Katy Perry.

00:20:43.000 Surprisingly, they've got like half a million views.

00:20:46.000 And I was like, wow, I don't know.

00:20:47.000 But there was something to talk about.

00:20:49.000 Katy Perry got fired from her Vegas residency or whatever, and they said she lost money.

00:20:52.000 And I'm like, that's actually really interesting for a major celebrity who just went into outer space and all this to be bombing so miserably.

00:20:59.000 More people care about that.

00:21:01.000 The issue for these people is they're addicted to it and they don't know what else to talk about.

00:21:05.000 Why did Johnny Carson get by with never doing that?

00:21:08.000 Talking politics?

00:21:10.000 Well, I mean, he talked politics, but he picked on both sides.

00:21:12.000 He was an equal opportunity offender.

00:21:15.000 Well, you know, back then...

00:21:18.000 And so you knew that you were going to have 10 million liberals, 10 million conservatives.

00:21:22.000 And so you had to be for the big tent approach.

00:21:27.000 Here's what I see.

00:21:27.000 I mean, we seem to have no trouble criticizing Donald Trump on this show.

00:21:32.000 We largely like what he does.

00:21:34.000 So it's not like we're just attacking him nonstop for no reason.

00:21:36.000 But when there's things to criticize him for, I know I can give the same examples over and over and over again.

00:21:42.000 In this term, I was skeptical on the universal tariffs.

00:21:45.000 We'll see where we end up with them.

00:21:46.000 In the past term, you had the Tomahawk strikes in Syria.

00:21:49.000 People have criticized him for these things.

00:21:51.000 And I criticize him for mocking the journalists getting body slammed, all that stuff.

00:21:55.000 The right is okay with that.

00:21:57.000 You're allowed to make fun of Donald Trump.

00:22:00.000 I'll give a shout-out to Seamus Coughlin, Freedom Tunes.

00:22:02.000 He makes fun of Trump all the time, and people love it.

00:22:05.000 I feel like that energy you're mentioning of Johnny Carson going after both sides, it's just the right now.

00:22:11.000 The left is cultish.

00:22:13.000 You can't.

00:22:14.000 But their audiences are so much smaller now.

00:22:17.000 Like you pointed out, there was only three options back 45 years ago.

00:22:21.000 But now there's hundreds of options for entertainment value.

00:22:25.000 But they deliberately ostracize half of their potential audience.

00:22:31.000 I still don't understand why, if you're funny, if you are genuinely funny as a comedian, why would you deliberately do that?

00:22:37.000 Because you have to one way or the other.

00:22:40.000 Is that coming from the editorial board?

00:22:42.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99

00:22:43.000 I'm saying if Seth Meyers came out and said Joe Biden's brain is made of jello, this guy's ridiculous, who would consider voting for a lunatic, then the left would riot against them. 0.99

00:22:53.000 The conservatives won't come and watch. 0.98

00:22:55.000 The left will riot and stop watching, and their ratings go to zero.

00:22:58.000 So they said, okay, this is the conservatives'fault to a certain degree, and I've complained about this quite a bit.

00:23:03.000 These TV shows...

00:23:10.000 It's crazy how small their shows have gotten.

00:23:13.000 Ten years ago, they were getting millions.

00:23:14.000 Now they're getting hundreds of thousands.

00:23:16.000 And they're basically saying, look, we went hard against Trump.

00:23:20.000 We bet against them and we lost.

00:23:22.000 If we were to come out now and try and be pro-Trump, conservatives won't watch and liberals will leave.

00:23:28.000 So why do it?

00:23:29.000 I wonder if the same kind of calculation will happen when it comes to trying to attract young men.

00:23:37.000 You know, we were just talking about trying to attract young men to the Democrat Party.

00:23:40.000 What happens when young men start coming to the Democrat Party and behaving like young men? 0.52

00:23:45.000 Does the Democrat Party lose the left and then the young men realize, oh, this isn't the place for me and then lose everything?

00:23:51.000 No, I think that is the path towards correction.

00:23:54.000 So I would say...

00:24:05.000 They're two-thirds liberal.

00:24:07.000 And the men lean slightly away.

00:24:09.000 It's like 45% of millennial men are Democrat.

00:24:11.000 These numbers changed, but these are the numbers from a few years ago.

00:24:14.000 Millennial men are 55% Republican, 45% liberal.

00:24:21.000 Women are more susceptible to social pressures than men are. 0.94

00:24:24.000 So when the official mainstream narrative is weird, woke, psycho garbage, you are likely going to find that women adhere to those narratives more than men do because of their feelings, not because of the facts. 0.79

00:24:36.000 Men are going to be more aggressive and obstinate, and they're going to adhere to facts, things they believe to be true and argue. 0.86

00:24:42.000 If the Democrats started to bring men in and let them speak, it would create social pressures where more women would move over to their line of thinking. 1.00

00:24:52.000 They'd still be liberals because you'd have masculine, aggressive, liberal men, not like Hassan.

00:24:58.000 I mean, actually, like, politically moderate liberal types who are going to say things like, we don't want to trans the kids, but we do need to secure our borders, and we do need, you know, I think taxes on the wealth, on the rich make sense. 0.84

00:25:12.000 Bring a guy in who says that and is charismatic and you'll see women start adopting those views and abandoning the weird woke ideology stuff. 0.54

00:25:18.000 I think with the direction that people getting married is going in in our country that we're unfortunately not going to see that.

00:25:26.000 And I think people between the parties support is becoming more gendered.

00:25:31.000 That is more men are supporting the Republican Party.

00:25:33.000 More women are supporting the Democrat Party.

00:25:34.000 And we're actually seeing that to continue to be further exacerbated.

00:25:50.000 We're seeing more extreme examples of this.

00:25:52.000 So for example, in like South Korea, the gender divide and how they vote is very extreme.

00:25:57.000 And with the way that the parties signal to the genders, I just foresee it continue to go to that direction. 0.97

00:26:04.000 I feel like we'd be remiss if we didn't also mention that the Democrats are overwhelmingly pro-choice.

00:26:09.000 And I've said it before on the show that I think women would rather be poor than lose their access to abortion at this point.

00:26:16.000 I mean, generally for most women in this country. 0.93

00:26:18.000 So just things to consider.

00:26:20.000 And so long as the Republicans are anti-abortion, you know, there's going to be gendered consequences to that, among other things.

00:26:26.000 But I think that's a big, that plays a big role here.

00:26:28.000 I just did a quick Google search on ratings for cable TV.

00:26:33.000 The last word with Lawrence O'Donnell.

00:26:36.000 How many key demo viewers do you think he had?

00:26:38.000 Oh, God.

00:26:39.000 12,000.

00:26:41.000 This is the 5 p.m. hour.

00:26:41.000 Yeah.

00:26:45.000 Lawrence O'Donnell.

00:26:47.000 5pm, 50,000.

00:26:49.000 In the key demo?

00:26:50.000 12,000.

00:26:50.000 Key demo.

00:26:51.000 Oh.

00:26:52.000 12,000.

00:26:52.000 Wow!

00:26:53.000 Well, I think most people who watch...

00:26:56.000 Yep.

00:26:57.000 Nobody, but old people. 1.00

00:26:59.000 Old people watch... 0.91

00:27:01.000 Like they'll probably get 100K, 200K, but it's all old people. 1.00

00:27:05.000 At 50?

00:27:08.000 9,000.

00:27:09.000 Wow!

00:27:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:27:12.000 Holy crap. 0.98

00:27:12.000 I didn't think that was... 0.98

00:27:17.000 Can you explain key demo to people?

00:27:20.000 25 to 54 years old.

00:27:21.000 That's what's important here.

00:27:22.000 Yo, check this out.

00:27:24.000 This is where things get really crazy.

00:27:27.000 I'm going to scroll.

00:27:28.000 I should just pull this up.

00:27:29.000 Let me see if I can pull this up.

00:27:31.000 So y 'all can see it.

00:27:32.000 Do you have Fox's numbers too?

00:27:34.000 Because Fox kills it.

00:27:35.000 No, bro.

00:27:36.000 Wait till you see this, if I can get...

00:27:40.000 Fox is a true underappreciated juggernaut in the media space.

00:27:43.000 May 21st.

00:27:45.000 Let me pull this up.

00:27:47.000 So, here we go.

00:27:49.000 They say, the five ascended to familiar territories have crossed over the 4 million total viewer threshold on Wednesday evening.

00:27:55.000 Fox News' 5 p.m. panel show is the number one program in the advertiser-coveted 25 to 54 demo.

00:28:01.000 However, yo, they're playing flashy word games, how they wrote that.

00:28:06.000 The Five got 391,000 viewers in the key demo.

00:28:10.000 That's number one.

00:28:12.000 The number one cable TV show gets 391,000 viewers in the key demo.

00:28:17.000 Wow.

00:28:18.000 With all due respect, I'm a fan of The Five.

00:28:20.000 Yo, we do like 700.

00:28:21.000 We do like 700.

00:28:23.000 We do between like 700,000 to 800,000 per episode on Timcast IRL.

00:28:26.000 And I think maybe like 600, maybe 650 is key demo.

00:28:31.000 People aren't watching these networks anymore except, check this out, this is how crazy things are.

00:28:35.000 So if you can look at CNN, you've got 100,000 for Anderson Cooper.

00:28:40.000 Yo, that's wild.

00:28:41.000 9 p.m.

00:28:42.000 Hannity's got 300,000.

00:28:44.000 Gutfeld gets 322,000.

00:28:47.000 Now, yo, I was on Waters a couple weeks ago.

00:28:49.000 They don't come out and say this.

00:28:52.000 When they talk about their ratings, where's Waters?

00:28:55.000 372,000.

00:28:56.000 That's awesome.

00:28:57.000 But take a look at their total viewership.

00:29:01.000 Waters got 3.5 million.

00:29:03.000 The Five got 4.064.

00:29:07.000 The overwhelming majority of the viewers they have are over 55, and I think the average is 70 years old.

00:29:15.000 What's going to happen to this, all of this stuff in 10 years?

00:29:19.000 Well, I mean, the fact that there's going to be...

00:29:25.000 It's just a continuation of what's been happening for the past decade.

00:29:29.000 Everything has been moving to the internet.

00:29:31.000 Everything has been moving away from legacy media.

00:29:33.000 So the trend is just going to continue and probably increase in velocity.

00:29:38.000 There's significantly few boomers at this table right now, by the way.

00:29:43.000 I'm a boomer at heart, though, so I think I count for one.

00:29:45.000 I wanted to do a little inside of the lines reading here, Tim, if you go back to the full graph here.

00:29:52.000 It's very important for people to understand is that I think 8 p.m. is actually the key spot to have.

00:29:56.000 Like, that is the most coveted TV spot to have.

00:29:59.000 And that's the spot that Tucker Carlson used to fill at Fox News.

00:30:02.000 And now you'd actually notice that the 5, which is at 5 o 'clock, is actually getting more viewership than the coveted 8 p.m. spot.

00:30:09.000 I just think it's an important thing to recognize that there's a reason we shoot at 8 p.m.

00:30:13.000 And 8 p.m. is when, like, football games and everything would start.

00:30:16.000 It's the key time when people get home and what have you.

00:30:19.000 They're getting less...

00:30:24.000 However, Jesse Waters is like the principal personality of The Five.

00:30:27.000 Correct.

00:30:28.000 So, you know, I think there's still something to say.

00:30:31.000 Waters is like the man at Fox News right now.

00:30:34.000 Yeah.

00:30:34.000 And it's Waters and Gutfeld, basically.

00:30:37.000 I guess...

00:30:40.000 I mean, Hannity's getting 300,000.

00:30:41.000 In a roundabout way, Tim, I guess I'm saying that Jesse Waters doesn't fill Tucker Carlson's shoes, who had big shoes to fill when Bill O 'Reilly left, too.

00:30:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:49.000 And that's crazy they got rid of Tucker Carlson.

00:30:51.000 Totally.

00:30:51.000 That was absolutely nuts.

00:30:52.000 I think Tucker would still be doing monster numbers more than Jesse Waters, but it seems as though he's more interested in doing the Tucker Carlson network stuff.

00:31:00.000 I got to say, like, it is...

00:31:08.000 Pharmaceuticals for old people. 1.00

00:31:09.000 Yeah.

00:31:10.000 And street EKGs.

00:31:13.000 Have you seen that commercial?

00:31:14.000 No.

00:31:15.000 Is My Palace still there too?

00:31:17.000 No, not so much.

00:31:18.000 Not so much.

00:31:19.000 Not that I've seen.

00:31:20.000 They have this one commercial where it's a guy, he's like, I am not in a doctor's office.

00:31:24.000 I'm not even a doctor.

00:31:25.000 I'm in the street.

00:31:26.000 And you can get a medical grade EKG by putting your fingers on this thing.

00:31:29.000 How much do you think that costs?

00:31:31.000 And reverse mortgages.

00:31:32.000 So don't get me wrong, like...

00:31:39.000 They actually have a disproportionate amount of wealth.

00:31:41.000 There's a lot of hyper-concentrated wealth and power in the 65-plus demographic.

00:31:47.000 Now, when we look at the average age of viewers on these networks, it's around 70 years old right now.

00:31:52.000 Because, like, to be honest, like seven years ago we were talking about this, the average age was like 65. So I could arguably be like, it's probably 70 now, but I think it's 69, 70 years old.

00:32:03.000 We also see with the Real Clear Politics age breakdown, the only age bracket that opposes Trump is 70 plus.

00:32:11.000 All of this wealth, homeownership, corporate equities is about 10 years away from just being up in the air.

00:32:19.000 The votes are gone.

00:32:21.000 The properties are, where do they go?

00:32:23.000 The corporate equities, where do they go?

00:32:24.000 And all of these channels, nothing.

00:32:28.000 Yo.

00:32:29.000 I don't know.

00:32:29.000 I did a quick Google search once.

00:32:32.000 Actually, let me do a quick Google search now.

00:32:34.000 Jesse Waters' salary.

00:32:36.000 And we're picking on Jesse Waters.

00:32:39.000 I'm a fan, by the way.

00:32:40.000 That's why I went on the show.

00:32:41.000 What do you guys think his salary is listed as?

00:32:43.000 He's going to be a couple million a year, at least.

00:32:46.000 I don't know.

00:32:46.000 He's one of their number one APM coveted slot guy.

00:32:50.000 Five million a year.

00:32:52.000 What do you think?

00:32:52.000 I'm going five.

00:32:53.000 This is what it says when you Google it.

00:32:54.000 It says five million a year.

00:32:55.000 How are they going to pay this guy five million a year if he's pulling in 300K per episode?

00:33:00.000 Well, especially if they lose the pharmaceutical companies.

00:33:06.000 Right.

00:33:06.000 That's why they can do it.

00:33:08.000 You're asking in ten years, will he be able to pull in that?

00:33:11.000 I mean, he can do it right now because, as you said, the disproportionate amount of wealth on the boomer market that they're appealing to.

00:33:18.000 So right now, there's also carriage fees, too.

00:33:21.000 But yo, young people don't have cable.

00:33:23.000 So I'm wondering, this whole thing's going belly up in 10 years.

00:33:27.000 So I did a quick Google search on Hannity.

00:33:30.000 His salary is estimated at $36 million.

00:33:33.000 You know, again, I shouldn't pick on Fox News.

00:33:35.000 We should look at, like, Anderson Cooper, right?

00:33:36.000 I think there's also—it's worth mentioning that, like, some of—most of Fox News' biggest stars have ended up leaving Fox and ended up becoming independent Tim Pool-type creators, if you will, podcasters.

00:33:48.000 Megyn Kelly, for example, Tucker Carlson.

00:33:50.000 I'm sure I'm forgetting some others.

00:33:52.000 But, like, a lot of their best talent, most recognizable talent has left, and it really is a sign of where things are to go.

00:33:59.000 But also, working at Fox News must be great because you know you're— Tapped into getting tapped on the shoulder by President Trump and being brought on board in the cabinet or something.

00:34:07.000 I'm just, you know, I'm sitting here Google searching salaries.

00:34:10.000 And Anderson Cooper's salary is estimated at $20 million a year.

00:34:14.000 For a guy who pulls in $100K in the key demo, I'm just wondering.

00:34:19.000 Let's not even do that.

00:34:20.000 Anderson Cooper total viewership, $582,000.

00:34:24.000 Okay, let's just do some math.

00:34:26.000 How many commercials do you think aired during one hour of Anderson Cooper's show?

00:34:30.000 Like, honest, how many commercials?

00:34:32.000 It could be like three or a break.

00:34:34.000 Probably one every 10 minutes.

00:34:36.000 15 to 20. 15 to 20. To be fair, that could be a lot of money with 500,000 views.

00:34:41.000 So if you're talking 10K, you could be doing 150,000 per episode.

00:34:47.000 At 500,000 total viewers, you could be 582 with a standard CPM.

00:34:53.000 You could be charging $10,000 per ad.

00:34:58.000 I don't think it's there, though.

00:34:59.000 You know, because we tried to run that gag pillow commercial on Fox News.

00:35:03.000 The idea we had was our pillow.

00:35:06.000 Our pillow is a burlap sack full of styrofoam packing peanuts.

00:35:10.000 And I legit called Fox News and I was like, I want to run a commercial where we try and sell a burlap sack full of styrofoam packing peanuts.

00:35:17.000 And they laughed and they were like, OK, it costs money.

00:35:19.000 Tucker Carlson.

00:35:20.000 Who was getting, I think, you know, to be honest, I think he was getting half a million in the key demo and about $3.5 million on average.

00:35:26.000 It was $12,000 for one commercial on his show.

00:35:32.000 So, I mean, that's relatively cheap compared to what you pay on the internet for podcasts and things like this.

00:35:41.000 I think Joe Rogan might charge between $20,000 and $50,000 per ad read on his show.

00:35:46.000 Yeah, it's a big show, you know what I mean?

00:35:49.000 He's getting millions, but they're closer to the key demo.

00:35:51.000 So, to be fair, I mean, there is Joe.

00:35:53.000 I don't understand how Anderson Cooper makes the money.

00:35:55.000 Where does that money come from?

00:35:56.000 That's the crazy thing.

00:35:58.000 Anderson Cooper is a descendant from the Vanderbilt family, so maybe he's leaving some money on the table and not too worried about.

00:36:05.000 I believe he'd stay there even if they paid him zero dollars because he's doing it all for ego.

00:36:09.000 Yes, but he has made 20 million.

00:36:11.000 But the NGOs have to prop those networks up.

00:36:14.000 They have no choice because if they're going to get their message out at all, they have no choice but to prop them up.

00:36:14.000 They have to.

00:36:19.000 What's most annoying to me is that we've had a lot on staff now for a couple weeks that AIPAC hasn't called.

00:36:24.000 Like, yo, what's up, Elad?

00:36:25.000 Not yet.

00:36:27.000 Not yet.

00:36:28.000 I think I need to say the resident, the Jew more often here.

00:36:32.000 Jewish correspondent.

00:36:33.000 It was Shaffir's correspondent, rather.

00:36:34.000 There was a funny meme.

00:36:35.000 It's going to just piss some people off because everyone gets mad about Israel stuff.

00:36:38.000 But someone had a funny post where they said something like, I don't understand.

00:36:40.000 I don't understand why everybody thinks Israel's paying all these people when the only thing they've ever done is beg me for money. 0.84

00:36:45.000 Like all these NGOs and nonprofits are always asking for donations and things like that.

00:36:50.000 No, there's...

00:36:51.000 You know, I will say this, too.

00:36:53.000 There is...

00:36:58.000 I don't think that exists.

00:36:59.000 You don't think so?

00:37:00.000 No, it's pharmaceutical companies.

00:37:01.000 Well, they are.

00:37:10.000 And it's just not.

00:37:13.000 Certainly there are NGOs that get money from Soros.

00:37:16.000 That exists.

00:37:17.000 And they might buy commercials, but we don't actually see a lot of those commercial buys.

00:37:21.000 It's pharmaceutical companies that are propping up these cable networks.

00:37:24.000 And the reason why we get these messages is because they want favorable policies from Democrat politicians they're cutting these deals with.

00:37:31.000 It's really simple.

00:37:33.000 Pharmaceutical companies are going to make contributions when and where they can.

00:37:35.000 They're going to prop up corporate news outlets.

00:37:38.000 Those news outlets are scared of losing access.

00:37:40.000 And the pharmaceuticals are like, listen, these Democrats are going to give us good deals.

00:37:46.000 If you start running commercials that are pro-Republican that are challenging all this stuff, we're not going to buy ads with you anymore.

00:37:51.000 And the news network's like, okay, then we'll stop doing it.

00:37:53.000 The editorial comes in and says, guys, we don't want to, look, a Republican, you know, RFK Jr., for instance, why did the media attack him relentlessly?

00:38:02.000 Pharmaceutical companies probably went to the big media and said, we will pull our ads if you keep disparaging us.

00:38:08.000 And they said, okay.

00:38:09.000 Went to their team and said, guys, we got to lay off on the weird pharma stuff, okay?

00:38:13.000 Let's just not risk our bottom line over whatever the story is.

00:38:17.000 You know, I have another way to put it that I love to explain to people.

00:38:20.000 The reason why journalism is not news.

00:38:23.000 Journalism will not tell you the truth.

00:38:25.000 And anyone who thinks it will is misinformed.

00:38:29.000 It's really simple.

00:38:30.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:38:36.000 All right.

00:38:37.000 I need $100,000 so that I can make a website that will...

00:38:52.000 We're going to hire three people.

00:38:54.000 We're going to pay them, I don't know, a couple bucks an article.

00:38:57.000 And we're going to get...

00:39:03.000 Is this Shark Tank right now?

00:39:05.000 So here's what happens.

00:39:07.000 The investor says, okay, my principal investment is 100 grand for one year.

00:39:11.000 So let's just do a three-year deal at 300,000 over three years.

00:39:15.000 You're going to hire three guys.

00:39:18.000 You're going to contract three guys to write rage bait articles. 0.99

00:39:20.000 Those articles will generate a couple grand each because you're going to say Trump is bad, celebrity garbage, celebrity garbage, and we're going to load with ads. 0.99

00:39:27.000 Okay. 0.99

00:39:28.000 Sounds like I'll make money.

00:39:29.000 Now let's talk about real journalism.

00:39:32.000 Why don't you go to an investor and say this?

00:39:34.000 I need $500,000 for one year.

00:39:38.000 Salary for the journalist is going to be, we're going to be modest, we're going to say $80,000 a year.

00:39:41.000 But travel costs, legal costs, legal costs is going to be $300,000 for the first year because we're going to get sued to oblivion when we start digging into Pfizer's or pharmaceutical.

00:39:51.000 The investor is going to say, okay, okay, half a million dollars.

00:39:54.000 What do I get at the end of the year?

00:39:55.000 We don't know.

00:39:56.000 We haven't investigated the company yet. 0.94

00:39:58.000 He's going to say, screw off. 0.90

00:39:59.000 I invested money in that.

00:40:01.000 So all of these big companies, that's how they're operating.

00:40:05.000 Why would they make news?

00:40:07.000 They're going to play softball so that you believe you're getting the news, but you are the product.

00:40:12.000 They need more eyeballs, so they need sensational rage-baked garbage at the lowest cost possible to appease their investors. 0.96

00:40:20.000 To be fair, you do have another problem today with membership basis where it's largely better so long as you're adhering to some kind of standard.

00:40:28.000 But then you end up with, say, Washington Post or The New York Times where they have audience capture.

00:40:33.000 Their audience hates Trump.

00:40:35.000 They've invested heavily in making anti-Trump content.

00:40:37.000 If they change now, they will lose members and they will shrink.

00:40:40.000 So what do they do?

00:40:41.000 They maintain those lies.

00:40:42.000 You are not getting fair and honest reporting from news organizations.

00:40:45.000 It just doesn't exist.

00:40:46.000 I think especially in the news media space, journalism.

00:40:50.000 Yeah.

00:40:52.000 sadly cannot be monetized to the amount that it takes to pay the journalist to make a living.

00:40:57.000 And the downstream consequences of that is that journalism and news outfits...

00:41:08.000 So for the New York Times, it's owned by the Salzburger family.

00:41:11.000 So the thing is, they're not really adhering or have to feel the pressure from their subscribers if it came down to that, because they're a very rich family.

00:41:19.000 Same for the Washington Post, currently owned by Jeff Bezos.

00:41:23.000 If push comes to shove, they actually don't need to be profitable.

00:41:26.000 And it's just rich people and rich companies that own a lot of these different news outlets.

00:41:31.000 The motivation then is going to be just for access or the ability to affect the narrative then, right?

00:41:36.000 The overall zeitgeist of America.

00:41:38.000 So let's talk about, let me do this.

00:41:39.000 Let me jump to this story first, kick this off.

00:41:41.000 We have this from the New York Times.

00:41:42.000 You know him, you love him.

00:41:44.000 NPR sues Trump over order to cut funding.

00:41:47.000 The lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington by NPR and other public radio organizations said President Trump's executive order violated the Constitution and the First Amendment.

00:41:55.000 I absolutely love that NPR's argument is we have a First Amendment right to taxpayer funds.

00:42:01.000 It is a psychotic, crazy world where the AP, the Associated Press, sued saying we should be allowed in the press pool in Trump's Oval Office.

00:42:11.000 This is an invitation.

00:42:14.000 There's no guarantee in the Constitution that a private organization has access to Trump's office.

00:42:19.000 And because Trump would invite the press in general, AP, won a court case saying they should be allowed in, my argument is I should sue next.

00:42:28.000 Why can't I be in the Oval Office whenever I want?

00:42:30.000 What makes the AP special?

00:42:32.000 If the courts are saying the AP needs to be allowed in, then I need to be allowed in too.

00:42:35.000 And we'll do the podcast right from the Oval Office next to Trump because they got to let me in.

00:42:38.000 It's an absurdity.

00:42:40.000 So now NPR is suing Trump.

00:42:42.000 Here's the executive order.

00:42:43.000 The executive order that Trump issued four weeks ago, or I'm sorry, about three and a half weeks ago, ending taxpayer subsidization of biased media.

00:42:49.000 It's not a First Amendment issue.

00:42:51.000 He's saying the U.S. government cannot be spending money on promoting one ideology.

00:42:58.000 That violates the First Amendment.

00:43:00.000 It is a violation of the First Amendment that NPR would receive funds.

00:43:05.000 That's what's at play.

00:43:07.000 So they want to say that the NPR is sued.

00:43:10.000 The lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington by NPR and other public radio organizations, including Colorado Public Radio.

00:43:16.000 And Aspen Public Radio said Mr. Trump's order violated the Constitution.

00:43:19.000 Quote, the president has no authority to the Constitution to take such actions.

00:43:22.000 On the contrary, the power of the purse is reserved for Congress.

00:43:25.000 The White House had no immediate comment.

00:43:27.000 This month, Mr. Trump signed an executive order ordering the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which backs NPR and PBS, to freeze all funding to those organizations.

00:43:35.000 The Corporation for Public Broadcasting spends more than half a billion dollars on public radio.

00:43:40.000 However, I do believe that is an executive branch, Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

00:43:44.000 And so the president does have authority to direct their actions.

00:43:47.000 However, there is a legal challenge and Congress has passed the funds for specific things, which means there's a check and a balance.

00:43:54.000 So this can't happen.

00:43:56.000 What I want to – jumping back into what we were talking about before, getting into the story, what I wanted to mention is Phil brought up how the purpose of these news organizations is for clout and to control the narrative in the system.

00:44:09.000 That's why – I believe it was Haim Saban.

00:44:11.000 I'm not sure.

00:44:13.000 He's – I don't know if he owns Univision.

00:44:16.000 I think he might.

00:44:17.000 Big Hillary Clinton guy. 0.93

00:44:19.000 They – Univision and ABC launched Fusion.

00:44:23.000 And I think they spent something like $300 million trying to create what they were calling, quote, nice vice.

00:44:29.000 Because they needed to get young people.

00:44:31.000 And they weren't profitable.

00:44:33.000 They didn't expect to be profitable, as far as I can tell in the conversations I have with these people.

00:44:38.000 It was to create an influence operation.

00:44:41.000 They wanted to be able to mass-produce content that shaped the political landscape of young people.

00:44:46.000 And they failed miserably.

00:44:48.000 And they had every opportunity to do it right, but boy, would they not listen.

00:44:53.000 Let me give you an example.

00:44:55.000 So they failed.

00:44:57.000 They laid everybody off.

00:44:58.000 They burned this money to the ground.

00:44:59.000 The company's completely gone.

00:45:01.000 When I was there, they had produced a bunch of content that was overly woke gender ideology stuff.

00:45:09.000 I went to the president of the company and I said, this stuff's not getting any views.

00:45:12.000 You're not getting any traction.

00:45:13.000 and you're not generating any attention.

00:45:14.000 And so me and my brother...

00:45:20.000 We can find content you have, that sleeper content, that's been improperly marketed, and we can make it big.

00:45:27.000 So there was one video called Open Mic Massacre.

00:45:30.000 And it was a comedian, and it was a cartoon bit where every time he tried to tell a joke, they'd boo him and call him racist or a bigot.

00:45:37.000 It was mocking the woke.

00:45:39.000 It exploded.

00:45:41.000 I don't remember how many views it got, but it got a ton of views.

00:45:44.000 They doubled their subscribers, and the company went nuts, outraged.

00:45:48.000 They did not want that narrative to be successful.

00:45:51.000 They were pissed off that it happened.

00:45:53.000 So they said, stop, stop doing this.

00:45:55.000 And that was the end of it.

00:45:56.000 And I was like, I don't understand.

00:45:58.000 We found the content that young people like.

00:46:01.000 We helped promote it.

00:46:02.000 It took off like crazy.

00:46:04.000 You're building subscribers.

00:46:05.000 What do you want?

00:46:06.000 And they said, not that.

00:46:08.000 So what did they end up doing? 0.98

00:46:09.000 Doubling down on woke garbage that failed and then they went out of business. 0.94

00:46:12.000 Well, again, these companies don't even care about being profitable because, again, it is an influence op. 0.95

00:46:17.000 And I think we also need to take notice of one of the biggest influence ops that is coming out of the Middle East, a news organization called Al Jazeera that I think is underappreciated for how much it is a propagandizing arm of Qatar.

00:46:31.000 That, again, doesn't need to be profitable.

00:46:33.000 And I think we'll need a wrangle with the consequences of news organizations not even trying to be profitable at this point.

00:46:38.000 Tim, I wanted to follow up on something you said earlier about NPR, and I believe it's the AP trying to sue Trump and the Trump administration to get more access to the Oval Office.

00:46:49.000 Here's the thing.

00:46:51.000 We're very thankful here at TimCast for the Trump administration shaking up the way they do media access at the White House.

00:46:58.000 If it was up to the White House Correspondents Association, who currently has a monopoly on coverage and access in the Oval Office, or well, used to, we wouldn't be in the Oval Office at all.

00:47:08.000 Space in the Oval Office is zero-sum.

00:47:10.000 It's actually a very small room.

00:47:12.000 And the fact when NPR isn't there or the AP isn't there, it's a different new media person that is.

00:47:18.000 So all of that is to say that NPR and AP trying to sue to get back in is trying to take the place of other new media outfits getting in there like us, like the Daily Wire, like the Daily Caller, among other.

00:47:32.000 I found it.

00:47:35.000 We've pulled this up from time to time.

00:47:37.000 It's a good example of the failure.

00:47:38.000 Nine years ago, 589,000 views.

00:47:41.000 I show you this because I believe this is evidence that when a media company With hundreds of millions of dollars was given an opportunity to produce successful content they chose not to intentionally.

00:47:57.000 They were told what would succeed.

00:47:58.000 You know, it's not even about politics.

00:48:01.000 We did a video called Fallout from Fukushima.

00:48:04.000 I went to the president of the company and I said Fallout 4 is coming out.

00:48:07.000 It is the most anticipated game of the year.

00:48:10.000 It's been a long time, huh?

00:48:11.000 I said, Fallout 3 was game of the year.

00:48:13.000 Fallout 4 is coming out.

00:48:14.000 We should go to Fukushima, Japan, do a mini-documentary on the disaster and where it's currently at and call it Fallout from Fukushima.

00:48:20.000 We're going to capture all that SEO. 0.98

00:48:22.000 So everyone's searching for Fallout.

00:48:24.000 It's going to find our documentary.

00:48:25.000 And it creates a cool, real-world view for what these video games are.

00:48:31.000 And video games are popular.

00:48:32.000 And they said, do it.

00:48:33.000 Boom! 0.99

00:48:34.000 Half a million views right at launch.

00:48:35.000 And they said, no.

00:48:37.000 Make more trans kids. 1.00

00:48:39.000 I said, here's my idea for a series.

00:48:41.000 Let's create mini-documentaries based on video games.

00:48:45.000 So Call of Duty, let's make a Call of Duty mini-doc that explores modern warfare and combat.

00:48:51.000 And we film it with shots.

00:48:54.000 we put a GoPro on the weapon and we film first-person POV training and make it look like the video game.

00:49:00.000 That way when people are playing the video game on their board and they said, no, we want...

00:49:10.000 That is, with hundreds of millions of dollars pouring in, the goal was never to build successful media.

00:49:16.000 It was to build narrative and pay to inject it into the culture.

00:49:21.000 Which is what I was warning last November when I said, this is what Democrats are going to do.

00:49:26.000 They lost the election.

00:49:28.000 Now what they're going to do is, they tried the corporate route, build a company, dump the money, see if it works.

00:49:34.000 Didn't work.

00:49:35.000 Now they're going to find liberal podcasters and they're going to say, you got a big channel.

00:49:39.000 Let's give you $10 million in advertisement.

00:49:42.000 Your face will be everywhere.

00:49:45.000 And what's fascinating to me is that the right, with domination in the space for now, the podcast presence, as they call it, have not been utilizing their resources to take cultural ubiquity.

00:49:58.000 This is what I don't get.

00:49:59.000 Did you guys see the Times Square thing of all the black men's faces? 1.00

00:50:02.000 Yeah.

00:50:03.000 No.

00:50:04.000 You didn't see that?

00:50:05.000 Let me see if I can pull that up. 0.89

00:50:07.000 Black men's faces Times Square.

00:50:12.000 What is this?

00:50:13.000 How do I find this?

00:50:15.000 Black men in Times Square?

00:50:16.000 That's not it. 0.90

00:50:19.000 Okay, it is.

00:50:20.000 Yeah, I can pull this one up, I guess.

00:50:22.000 Mr. Price.

00:50:23.000 Okay, that's annoying.

00:50:23.000 I don't want to pull that one up.

00:50:26.000 Is this it?

00:50:29.000 I don't know.

00:50:30.000 This might be it.

00:50:30.000 Let's just pull this in and see what happens.

00:50:36.000 There you go.

00:50:37.000 So all of a sudden, every billboard in Times Square that you can buy turns into a picture of a black man's face.

00:50:44.000 And it's some, like, art campaign or whatever.

00:50:48.000 I was talking to my buddies about this 10 years ago.

00:50:51.000 How do we buy every billboard in Times Square all at once?

00:50:54.000 Because that's like a big flash everybody notices and exactly what happened with this.

00:50:58.000 The right won a podcast battle helping Donald Trump win.

00:51:03.000 And they all remained independent, isolated, didn't do big ad runs.

00:51:07.000 They're not doing what Coca-Cola does.

00:51:09.000 What I think we're going to see next, I think, you know, we bought billboards.

00:51:15.000 Timcast IRL is on billboards all across the country, and many people have seen them if you're driving through, especially the Rust Belt where we bought a bunch.

00:51:21.000 very expensive to do.

00:51:22.000 It's because I firmly believe in a year, you are going to see...

00:51:37.000 You're going to pull up, you know, Asmongold.

00:51:40.000 You're going to want to watch, you know, it's a streamer, right?

00:51:43.000 Politically unaffiliated but leans kind of in the Trump direction.

00:51:46.000 And whenever you click his video, it's going to autoplay a commercial from a liberal podcast or the liberal podcast itself.

00:51:53.000 These big companies, they can afford to give Rachel Maddow $20 million. 1.00

00:51:57.000 They're going to go to Google and say, we want to buy a big package.

00:52:00.000 Let me tell you guys about last year.

00:52:02.000 We spent a lot of money on Google Ads.

00:52:04.000 And Google, to this day, will not stop emailing me saying, please talk to us and do a deal with us.

00:52:11.000 We'll cut you a deal.

00:52:13.000 We'll prioritize all this stuff because you spent a lot of money.

00:52:16.000 It makes sense.

00:52:17.000 But we don't spend as much as these people can.

00:52:20.000 And so we might do like tens of thousands per month depending on the show we're doing or the videos we want to promote, things like that.

00:52:27.000 What you're going to end up seeing is, here's my bet, Democrat PAC or something, or a Democrat-aligned media interest is going to say, we represent a bunch of these big podcasts on the liberal side that are on YouTube, but they don't do so well.

00:52:44.000 Now, we've got a $50 million budget for the year, but we don't know if we want to spend that on YouTube ads if you guys aren't promoting us and they're not being seen by people anyway.

00:52:56.000 YouTube will then be like, let's do a deal.

00:53:00.000 Then when you go to the front page of YouTube as a conservative, all of a sudden you're only getting liberals.

00:53:04.000 And it's because YouTube says, look, they bought a $50 million package.

00:53:08.000 So their ads are going to appear all over the place.

00:53:11.000 Banner ads, video display ads, and they're going to start popping up in the algorithm more often.

00:53:16.000 So they're going to ignore your personally identified profile algorithm and then force feed you.

00:53:23.000 I would argue that there's a balance of yes with a but.

00:53:26.000 YouTube, of course, doesn't want to lose users.

00:53:29.000 They don't want to lose users.

00:53:30.000 But the balance is, or the question is, why doesn't YouTube want people to leave the website?

00:53:36.000 They want to maximize how many ads they can deliver.

00:53:38.000 If they abuse it too much, people will leave.

00:53:41.000 However, they also need money.

00:53:44.000 And if people are already leaving to, say, rumble and they're conservative, YouTube's going to have this equation in front of them.

00:53:50.000 Conservatives have left and gone to rumble, largely.

00:53:53.000 And maybe not entirely, but a large portion, or at least a significant double-digit portion.

00:54:00.000 We've already lost a lot of that money.

00:54:02.000 How do we make back that money?

00:54:04.000 Democrats then come and say, well, promote our personalities.

00:54:07.000 But here's the thing, too.

00:54:08.000 Like that guy Derek Thompson was saying, it's going to be sleeper cells.

00:54:11.000 They're going to be liberal-aligned shows that are passively liberal, but in the health space.

00:54:16.000 YouTube will start promoting these things.

00:54:18.000 They've been doing it.

00:54:19.000 They've done it before.

00:54:20.000 They'll do it again.

00:54:21.000 YouTube will begin putting pressure so it's harder to find shows like this.

00:54:25.000 And other shows that lean away from the narrative machine.

00:54:30.000 They'll try and do it in a way to maintain as many viewers as possible without bleeding too much.

00:54:34.000 But the equation, as I mentioned, is if conservatives leave and are angry and liberals are threatening to leave, pan to the liberals.

00:54:41.000 End of story.

00:54:42.000 Especially if they're offering big cash.

00:54:44.000 I think we're going to see that next year in the midterms, and that's what's going to cause a lot of damage to Republicans.

00:54:50.000 But that being said, Democrats still have crackpots.

00:54:53.000 Yeah, I mean, the scenario you lay out actually is very similar to the way that it was before people kind of started to realize that the left controlled everything.

00:55:05.000 I mean, the general consensus was that it was normal, and then you had conservatives.

00:55:13.000 But then normal started saying crazy things like, Men can become women and such.

00:55:18.000 But it was that, you know, the general consensus was, oh, this is what normal people think, and we don't have to be political.

00:55:27.000 We just talk about whatever topic we're talking about, or whatever we like.

00:55:31.000 And then if politics comes up, it's obvious that we would vote for Barack Obama, or it's obvious the right choice is the Democrats.

00:55:39.000 And that was the way that kind of society had been running for, you know, probably since Bill Clinton.

00:55:44.000 You know, even when George Bush was the president, the general consensus was still from the media and from the left that it was clear that, you know, George Bush might have been kind of an anomaly, but most of your political positions should be the positions that the left had.

00:56:02.000 I don't want to make this sound like it's uniquely a left issue.

00:56:06.000 There was a story that relates to this that came across my radar last week from the Washington Examiner talking about how Qatar has foreign influence operations here in the United States.

00:56:18.000 I'm going to read you a couple of paragraphs from here because I feel like it relates.

00:56:20.000 It's in regard to Tucker Carlson interviewing the prime minister of Qatar and the organization that payed.

00:56:35.000 So let me just read this.

00:56:36.000 Wait, what?

00:56:37.000 What's the title?

00:56:37.000 I'll just pull it up.

00:56:38.000 The title, it's from the Washington Examiner.

00:56:40.000 Conservative media targeted by Qatari foreign influence operations.

00:56:43.000 You're going to have to archive it because it has a paywall.

00:56:46.000 So it says, I'm reading from it, perhaps Qatar's biggest victory in its post-election right-wing media campaign thus far was securing an interview between Tucker Carlson and Prime Minister Mohammed bin...

00:57:00.000 Qatar paid top dollar to ensure the interview take place.

00:57:03.000 FARA records show that Luminate Advisors, a legal consulting company for which very little public information is available, facilitated the interview between Carlson and the Qatari dignitary.

00:57:12.000 The Luminate Advisors paid $180,000 per month to provide media and communication coaching and consulting services.

00:57:21.000 I don't have it pulled up, so just keep going.

00:57:23.000 No, it's that.

00:57:23.000 It's this.

00:57:24.000 No, I don't have it pulled up, so just keep going.

00:57:25.000 What's your point?

00:57:26.000 Oh, and then...

00:57:28.000 So we need to be worried about...

00:57:30.000 Again, this is rich people trying to sway opinion one way or another.

00:57:37.000 Yeah.

00:57:38.000 Conservative media targeted by Qatari foreign influence operations.

00:57:41.000 So what was the point you were bringing up?

00:57:43.000 So we were talking a lot about how the left is influenced by billionaires that are trying to fund their money.

00:57:50.000 And I don't think it's unique to the left.

00:57:52.000 And I think on the right, we also have different billionaires flooding money into the space, perhaps trying to get money.

00:57:59.000 It says, Cutter paid top dollar to ensure this interview took place.

00:58:03.000 Foreign Agent Registration Act records show that Lumen8 Advisors, LLC, A legal consulting company for which very little public information is available helped facilitate between Carlson and the Qatari dignitary.

00:58:14.000 The embassy of the state of Qatar pays Lumen 8 advisors $180,000 per month to provide media and communication coaching and consulting services.

00:58:21.000 Qatar wants to further cement ties with Trump and allies for many reasons, including to defend itself against Republican attacks for its relationship with Hamas in Iran.

00:58:29.000 Anna Jacobs, a non-resident fellow at the Arab Gulf States Institute, said of the Carlson interview.

00:58:35.000 So they were saying that the biggest victory was Tucker Carlson and Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani in March.

00:58:42.000 Now, the one I mentioned has got six million views across X and YouTube.

00:58:45.000 That being said, I mean, it doesn't mean Carlson has anything to do with it.

00:58:49.000 I think what we have to be careful about, if Qatar is hiring a media advisory agency and then saying we want to, like, on this Luminate emails Tucker and says, would you like to interview the Prime Minister of Qatar?

00:59:02.000 He's going to say yes.

00:59:03.000 So I don't think there's anything untoward.

00:59:07.000 Is there any implication that Carlson or anybody was actually taking money?

00:59:12.000 So it was people registered with FARA that helped facilitate the interview.

00:59:19.000 That sounds normal.

00:59:20.000 Yeah.

00:59:20.000 I need to look.

00:59:21.000 the advisors were paid $180,000 a month.

00:59:24.000 I don't know if that...

00:59:26.000 I need to look up to...

00:59:32.000 I don't think Tucker got paid to do this interview.

00:59:35.000 I think if someone emailed me and said, would you, if someone emailed Tim Castile and said, would you like to interview the Prime Minister of Qatar?

00:59:41.000 I'd say yes.

00:59:41.000 I think there's foreign agents being paid by the Qataris to help facilitate their relationship with right-wing figures like Tucker Carlson.

00:59:50.000 And I watched parts of the interview.

00:59:52.000 It was an extremely friendly interview from what I'm used to seeing from Tucker Carlson.

00:59:56.000 So I think there is reason for concern.

00:59:58.000 And again, There's also many people in the Trump administration who's had a lot of donations from Qatar that I think it's something to be aware of.

01:00:06.000 Pam Bondi received millions of dollars in donations when she was aging in Florida from Qatar.

01:00:13.000 She formally lobbied for Qatar, it says.

01:00:15.000 Qatar as well.

01:00:16.000 I think also Kash Patel, despite, I think, doing a great job so far, also had a lot of Qatari involved with them.

01:00:24.000 It's a small country.

01:00:25.000 It's got 300,000 people.

01:00:26.000 And then, moreover, Qatar also has their Al Jazeera media outfit that they're only losing money on.

01:00:32.000 So I think...

01:00:43.000 Well, I mean, I think that it's probably obvious that they're looking to do as much as they can to influence, but I think that, I mean, a lot of countries do that, don't they?

01:00:52.000 It's a question of whether it's illicit.

01:00:54.000 And let's try and break this down.

01:00:56.000 I think, this is why I can't stand the issue of the Israel-Palestine stuff.

01:01:02.000 Because nobody is—I'll just put it this way.

01:01:05.000 All is fair in love and war.

01:01:07.000 I get it.

01:01:08.000 So what do we have here?

01:01:09.000 I would break this down as Tucker Carlson was approached by a media consulting firm that works for Qatar and said, would you like to interview the prime minister?

01:01:17.000 And he said, yeah, that sounds amazing.

01:01:19.000 An interview with a world leader.

01:01:21.000 That's huge.

01:01:22.000 That's it.

01:01:24.000 Qatar hires a media agency.

01:01:27.000 Like, we have PR and publicists.

01:01:30.000 We pay them.

01:01:30.000 They're not foreign.

01:01:31.000 They're Americans.

01:01:32.000 And they reach out to news outlets and say, on behalf of Tim Castile, like, would you be interested in these stories?

01:01:38.000 Would you be interested in these interviews?

01:01:40.000 I think that's all this is.

01:01:41.000 The reason it's FARA is because it's Cutter.

01:01:42.000 And I think the attempt here from the examiner is to malign Tucker Carlson as if he didn't make it appear as though he did something wrong.

01:01:51.000 Is there a narrative that you believe Cutter tends to push that you find objectionable?

01:01:55.000 Or do you think that they have motives that are contrary to what the United States motivation would be?

01:02:00.000 So I think their Al Jazeera media outfit is an anti-Western outlet that has a lot of nefarious intentions on the world stage.

01:02:10.000 and I think they are the main funders behind that, and I'm super critical of them. 0.67

01:02:14.000 I think they're huge hypocrites, so you know, On their Al Jazeera channel, they'll constantly rail about human rights, but they built their country with slave labor. 0.66

01:02:23.000 You said they only have 300,000 citizens, right? 0.98

01:02:26.000 But there's something like 2 million non-registered citizens in their country pretty much acting as slaves.

01:02:32.000 There's no rights for women in their country, among other things. 1.00

01:02:34.000 I think Al Jazeera Plus is or was the bigger issue.

01:02:38.000 I don't know if they still exist.

01:02:39.000 That's their more progressive outfit.

01:02:41.000 But again, Al Jazeera never cover Qatar either in any sense.

01:02:47.000 They what?

01:02:48.000 They shouldn't.

01:02:49.000 Why not?

01:02:49.000 It's a conflict of interest.

01:02:50.000 I think it's a conflict of interest to just completely stay out of it.

01:02:54.000 I think they should try to be unbiased and cover themselves.

01:02:56.000 The same thing with the Washington Post and Bezos.

01:02:59.000 If you were truly unbiased, then you'd have some of the most cynical coverage of yourself.

01:03:02.000 But it's convenient for one of the biggest networks in the Middle East, run by such a small country, to be like, oh yeah, we'll cover all the misdealings of all the countries around us, except in our own country. 0.99

01:03:14.000 And a lot of the Middle Eastern countries around them in the Middle East don't like them as a result of this. 0.80

01:03:17.000 I think the BBC are a bunch of liars. 0.83

01:03:19.000 Sure. 0.97

01:03:20.000 And so that's the issue.

01:03:21.000 It could go either way.

01:03:23.000 I don't fault a country for reporting on themselves or not, depending on the size of the country, I suppose.

01:03:28.000 Like, we read the BBC and it's often BS.

01:03:31.000 Tommy Robinson got released today, which is awesome and amazing news.

01:03:34.000 And if you're going to read about him in the BBC, they're lying about everything.

01:03:37.000 It's insane.

01:03:41.000 Qatar's not reporting on themselves. 0.88

01:03:42.000 I shrug.

01:03:43.000 If they were, would we believe it?

01:03:44.000 I wouldn't want to read that.

01:03:46.000 I'm going to read something else.

01:03:47.000 I do think it's interesting that a tiny nation has such outsized influence.

01:03:51.000 Trump going there and the Qatari jet was a terrible idea.

01:03:55.000 He should not be accepting that jet for security reasons alone.

01:03:58.000 Then you had Theo Vaughn going and visiting with Trump and then coming back and saying it was a genocide going on in Palestine, in Gaza.

01:04:04.000 And I'm just like, when I when I pointed out that.

01:04:14.000 I thought they were making a, like they were insulting him.

01:04:17.000 Saying that his position on this is like akin to him going to Qatar.

01:04:23.000 And then I realized he actually did go there.

01:04:25.000 Like it was actually a big trip that he did.

01:04:26.000 And so I tweeted, wow, I didn't realize this.

01:04:28.000 And the response I got from people was that I was implying Qatar paid him for that opinion.

01:04:32.000 Which I never said that. 0.99

01:04:33.000 These people are psychotic. 0.95

01:04:34.000 I said, no, he went to Qatar, talked to some people. 0.93

01:04:37.000 They told him this, and he said, wow, I didn't know that, and then came back and became a part of his show.

01:04:41.000 The question I have is, why does this small country have such outsized influence?

01:04:45.000 And I'm not saying they're paying for it.

01:04:47.000 I'm saying people want to go there, and they go there, and they adopt those views and those opinions, and they believe it.

01:04:53.000 It's wild.

01:04:54.000 And I'm going to make a comment on Israel. 0.91

01:04:56.000 They have such outsized influence because they are paying for it.

01:05:01.000 To a certain degree.

01:05:02.000 Yeah, I mean, that's...

01:05:03.000 But, I mean, like...

01:05:08.000 Maybe not.

01:05:09.000 Maybe not in that case, but they're going to have influence with celebrities that they're going to bring over for their weddings, and they're going to pay $250 million for a wedding for a prince.

01:05:20.000 And they'll donate a ton of money to the school that you want your child to go to, and they're donating to all these politicians, and they're donating to all of these interest groups, and then they have their media outfits that are all incestuous with one another.

01:05:33.000 The Israelis would be jealous of the influence operation that the Qataris have.

01:05:38.000 It's amazing.

01:05:39.000 I view it largely similar to be honest.

01:05:43.000 I think the numbers from Qatar And I think there's also something to say about, I think there is actually a lot of genuine grassroots support for Israel in the West, in America in particular.

01:05:56.000 I also think Israel's coded to be right-wing and coded to be right, at least by the left. 0.55

01:06:03.000 So I think there's reason to support Israel and the country, as opposed to Qatar, which is completely misaligned with our values. 1.00

01:06:09.000 Totally, and supports terrorists, actually, and people who are antithetical to our values, and actually don't align with us on any values, but we do have an airbase there, so I think that's what it kind of comes down to, to project power.

01:06:22.000 A big deal.

01:06:24.000 Yeah.

01:06:24.000 And I mean, even his donations to Pam Bondi in the past is, they're willing to line anybody's pockets.

01:06:31.000 They're saying that Trump is a Qatari asset, not a Russian asset.

01:06:34.000 I think after your trip to Israel, you're going to have to stop in Qatar as well.

01:06:38.000 When I go to Israel?

01:06:39.000 When am I going to Israel?

01:06:40.000 Oh, we'll need to plan the trip out.

01:06:41.000 With your new APAC handler, you know, I made some phone calls.

01:06:44.000 I've been to Tel Aviv before.

01:06:46.000 It was beautiful.

01:06:47.000 And, you know, I don't know. 0.98

01:06:48.000 I think people are nuts. 0.88

01:06:49.000 I think it is infinitely strange to me how this is the center. 0.99

01:06:56.000 I call it Israel first. 0.95

01:06:57.000 I think the people who love and hate Israel are both Israel first, and it's the weirdest thing to me.

01:07:02.000 Because I'm like Israel 10th, maybe. 0.69

01:07:05.000 There's a bunch of other countries I think are more important.

01:07:07.000 Mexico and the cartels are in a higher ranking as to what I care about in this world.

01:07:12.000 Ukraine ranks higher as far as I'm concerned.

01:07:14.000 It matters.

01:07:15.000 What's going on there is important.

01:07:18.000 The only reason it's on the list at all is because the U.S. is providing funding to Israel and there's conflict going on around it that I don't think the U.S. should be involved in.

01:07:27.000 But it's amazing that there are people in this country who… And I'm like, that's America last.

01:07:41.000 You care so much about Israel, you would burn this country to the ground with Joe Biden.

01:07:46.000 That's crazy to me.

01:07:48.000 That means your first priority is Israel. 0.97

01:07:51.000 Whether you love Israel or hate Israel, these people who only ever complain about Israel, they don't care about Burma, they don't care about... 0.92

01:07:59.000 They don't care about Ukraine.

01:08:00.000 They don't care about South Sudan or Eritrea or Afghanistan.

01:08:04.000 The first country in their minds in every instance is Israel.

01:08:08.000 And again, that's the people who hate it and the people who love it.

01:08:11.000 So I'm just like, guys, you guys, just go get a hotel room or something.

01:08:15.000 I don't know.

01:08:16.000 It's crazy to me.

01:08:17.000 Yeah.

01:08:18.000 I mean, the fact that...

01:08:39.000 Those things that are having a serious impact on whether or not people will buy our treasury.

01:08:45.000 I mean, last week, the bond market opened up, and there was such soft demand that the yield, I think, went up.

01:08:53.000 I don't know exactly how much it was.

01:08:55.000 But the yield went up for treasury bonds because people didn't want them.

01:08:59.000 The reason people didn't want them is because the bill passed, the big, beautiful bill passed, and there's so much more spending.

01:09:05.000 Worrying about how much money we give to Israel is...

01:09:09.000 If you have a moral qualm with it, fine, that makes sense.

01:09:12.000 You know, I have a problem with the fact that the U.S. is involved in a war that's going on over there, fine.

01:09:16.000 Makes perfect sense.

01:09:17.000 But the idea that we give so much money to Israel, it's pennies compared to the real serious economic issues.

01:09:25.000 As you point out, the America First people only talk about Israel.

01:09:29.000 They are the functional democracy there.

01:09:33.000 They do allow Arabs, Muslims in the Knesset.

01:09:38.000 They do allow gays and transgenders to participate. 0.96

01:09:45.000 Maybe to their own detriment.

01:09:46.000 I mean, these are allowed in their culture, and they're not allowed in the border cultures. 0.78

01:09:50.000 And that's fine.

01:09:52.000 My point is, if someone came to me and said, I don't like...

01:09:59.000 Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, Afghanistan, Iraq.

01:10:02.000 I'd say, oh, I understand.

01:10:04.000 I'm totally with you on that.

01:10:05.000 But when they come to me and they say, the U.S. shouldn't be spending money on Israel, I say, what about other countries?

01:10:09.000 No, Israel! 0.99

01:10:10.000 And I'm like, dude, the only thing you care about is that you are Israel first, first and foremost.

01:10:15.000 All the Groypers, Nick Foyntes and everyone there, Israel first. 1.00

01:10:18.000 The only thing they ever talk about, they won't shut up about it.

01:10:20.000 They love Israel.

01:10:22.000 I get it.

01:10:22.000 They hate it.

01:10:23.000 They hate Israel. 0.84

01:10:24.000 They hate AIPAC.

01:10:25.000 They hate all these people, but it's the only thing to talk about.

01:10:26.000 They act like no other problems exist.

01:10:28.000 And I'm like, the point is, when you wake up in the morning, the first thing in your mind is Israel.

01:10:32.000 For me, it's America.

01:10:33.000 How do we secure our borders?

01:10:34.000 What's going on with fentanyl in Canada?

01:10:36.000 What's going on with illegal immigration from Guatemala into our country?

01:10:38.000 So when I have a list of countries I care more about, I'm like, first of all, American labor.

01:10:42.000 Are we...

01:10:48.000 That's the first thing I'm thinking about when I wake up.

01:10:50.000 How do we build culture among Americans?

01:10:51.000 How do we get people to be moralistic in our country?

01:10:54.000 Then I'm worried about Mexico.

01:10:55.000 They got cartels.

01:10:56.000 They're shoveling drugs up to our country. 0.61

01:10:59.000 Our border's insecure.

01:11:00.000 Then I'm concerned about Guatemala.

01:11:01.000 Then I'm concerned about El Salvador.

01:11:03.000 Then I'm concerned about Honduras.

01:11:04.000 Then Brazil.

01:11:04.000 And at some point down the list, I'm like, there's Israel.

01:11:07.000 But these people wake up every day bashing their faces against the wall, screaming the word Israel.

01:11:12.000 And I'm like, you are Israel first. 0.93

01:11:14.000 And I hope you hear me.

01:11:17.000 Clearly, they're definitely focused on Israel far more than they are in the U.S. Yep.

01:11:22.000 And that's why when they said they would vote for Joe Biden.

01:11:25.000 Over Donald Trump, I said, that is a person who would burn this country to the ground because they care more about Israel.

01:11:33.000 They hate Israel, but Israel matters so much more to them, they would see America burn if it meant bad things happened to Israel. 0.96

01:11:40.000 Cutting your nose to spite your face, yeah.

01:11:42.000 I don't know why you care so much.

01:11:43.000 And they live in these crazy worlds where Israel is the most important country on the planet. 0.85

01:11:47.000 And I'm telling you, it is fascinating how they think Israel controls the weather. 0.93

01:11:52.000 I like the amount of—it's not even a joke!

01:11:54.000 I know.

01:11:55.000 It's obvious that Ian controls the weather, not Israel. 0.98

01:11:57.000 The amount of crazy conspiracies they think—they believe that Israel controls everything, is this secret cabal of Jews that are running the whole world, and I'm like, that is Israel's first you can get. 0.81

01:12:07.000 They hate America, and they only care about Israel. 0.86

01:12:10.000 It's the only thing they focus on.

01:12:11.000 Let's jump to this next story from Newsweek.

01:12:13.000 Donald Trump makes Canada a new offer to become the 51st state.

01:12:17.000 And the best part is he claims they're considering it.

01:12:19.000 He posted on Truth, I told Canada, which very much wants to be a part of our fabulous Golden Dome system, that it will cost $61 billion if they remain a separate but unequal nation, but will cost $0 if they become our cherished 51st state.

01:12:33.000 They are considering the offer.

01:12:34.000 They aren't, but it's funny.

01:12:37.000 I don't want Canada to be the 51st state because I see the way the Canadians... 1.00

01:12:46.000 Oh, God.

01:12:47.000 It sounds like a terrible idea.

01:12:50.000 Senate Majority Leader Trudeau.

01:12:51.000 We could take Alberta, though.

01:12:52.000 Maybe.

01:12:53.000 And Saskatchewan right here, right?

01:12:54.000 What's that?

01:12:55.000 Saskatchewan, too?

01:12:57.000 Maybe.

01:12:58.000 But Alberta for the oil.

01:13:01.000 And the mountains.

01:13:04.000 But, yeah.

01:13:06.000 We could take their oil, you're saying?

01:13:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:10.000 So because I'm an expansionist, I'm down with taking Canada.

01:13:13.000 So I think the real test case for taking Canada would be if a war broke out, we'd have to occupy Canada to maintain its safety and to make sure it doesn't become a satellite of Canada.

01:13:24.000 Or a satellite of China is how I think it would go.

01:13:27.000 It already is.

01:13:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:13:29.000 They were doing Chinese military operations up there.

01:13:31.000 During a time of war, we'd have to go occupy and decommunize.

01:13:36.000 Canada.

01:13:37.000 So I think that's when it would really go down.

01:13:39.000 I think President Trump is just trying to warm the Canadians up to the idea a little bit at this point.

01:13:43.000 You're...

01:13:48.000 Canada is in our future. 0.89

01:13:52.000 No, it's not.

01:13:52.000 But at the end of the day, Canada is going to be...

01:13:58.000 If we do design and build a Golden Dome, the United States is going to protect Canada as well.

01:14:06.000 During a time of war, we will need to occupy them for their own safety. 0.88

01:14:09.000 No. 0.82

01:14:10.000 That's ridiculous. 0.89

01:14:11.000 To secure their liberty. 0.99

01:14:12.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

01:14:13.000 To protect them from communism, from the Chinese. 1.00

01:14:18.000 Stop.

01:14:18.000 We're going to be liberators, Phil.

01:14:20.000 No, this is...

01:14:22.000 No, no, no.

01:14:24.000 Liberators of Canada?

01:14:25.000 Yeah, we're going to liberate Canada from the Chinese. 1.00

01:14:28.000 Yeah, from the communists. 0.99

01:14:29.000 He's going to go up there and freeze to death by himself.

01:14:31.000 We're the anti-communists.

01:14:32.000 I'm not going.

01:14:33.000 Well, hold on.

01:14:35.000 The, you know, freeze, but that's if he goes in winter.

01:14:38.000 If he goes in summer, they have an extra long growing season and it's quite warm.

01:14:41.000 Then you'll just die of mosquito bites and ticks.

01:14:44.000 Black flies.

01:14:45.000 Yeah, they're terrible.

01:14:46.000 As I understand, their waterways will become very important within the next few decades thanks to climate change.

01:14:52.000 Do you guys remember climate change as a political issue?

01:14:54.000 I feel like I haven't heard that word in a long time.

01:14:55.000 It's not real.

01:14:57.000 Like, that completely, that was like the number one issue for Democrats.

01:14:59.000 And let me clarify, I'm saying as a political issue.

01:15:02.000 Yeah.

01:15:03.000 I know they're going to be like, oh, we got him!

01:15:05.000 That's what happened with Trump.

01:15:06.000 He said something like that, like the political climate change is no longer relevant, and the media all ran, Trump says climate change isn't real.

01:15:13.000 And I was like, no, he was saying that the political attacks they were using were based on lies.

01:15:18.000 If climate change was actually the crisis that they say, they would have been issuing nuclear permits two decades ago.

01:15:25.000 But it wasn't.

01:15:26.000 It never was.

01:15:26.000 They were just trying to use the...

01:15:36.000 How you use your faucet and what showerhead you can have.

01:15:42.000 My next question to President Trump.

01:15:43.000 If I'm so privileged to get another two and maybe ask about Greenland and Canada again.

01:15:47.000 What the updates are.

01:15:49.000 I think Trump clearly just cares about global trade routes in the ocean.

01:15:53.000 So the whole Canada-Greenland thing is about the Northwest Passage.

01:15:56.000 And Panama, obviously, the canal.

01:15:58.000 And Israel is largely Suez. 0.64

01:16:01.000 And it was funny because all of these anti-Israel people got super mad when I pointed that out to Adam Conover.

01:16:08.000 And they lost their minds because they live in Wally World.

01:16:11.000 I'm like, Trump's issue, if you look at the big picture, is global trade.

01:16:17.000 That's why they're bombing the Houthis.

01:16:19.000 That's why they have interests in Sinai, in the Suez, and that's why he cares about the Northwest Pacific, Greenland, Canada, and that's why Panama.

01:16:26.000 His, like, principal issue is, I will control global trade.

01:16:29.000 That's largely been the American position for domination. 0.67

01:16:32.000 We police the ocean.

01:16:34.000 So you don't think Trump's serious about Greenland?

01:16:36.000 I do, yeah.

01:16:37.000 I mean, no, in terms of acquisition.

01:16:40.000 Absolutely.

01:16:41.000 Okay, yeah, but not about Canada.

01:16:43.000 I think Canada might be half-joke.

01:16:47.000 Half-joking.

01:16:48.000 Trump wants some kind of deal where we can have a military presence or naval presence.

01:16:53.000 I don't think he literally believes the entirety of Canada will be one state.

01:16:56.000 That makes no sense.

01:16:57.000 But I think it's some kind of essence of a big ask.

01:17:04.000 Hey, you want Golden Dome protection?

01:17:05.000 They say, yes, but what's it going to cost?

01:17:08.000 He says $60 billion.

01:17:09.000 They go, we can't afford that.

01:17:10.000 He goes, then how about this?

01:17:12.000 You lease us parts of Canadian territory in the Northwest Passage, and we will then provide blanket coverage with Golden Dome.

01:17:20.000 That's where I think we might end up.

01:17:22.000 I think it's textbook art of the deal, and this is just his starting point in the negotiations, I think particularly for Greenland.

01:17:30.000 And I think Tim's spot on about getting different parts of random northern parts of Canada for future military bases and whatnot.

01:17:37.000 Same with Greenland, if we can negotiate something like that.

01:17:40.000 Or at least getting people interested in the idea, maybe a couple of decades down the line, something goes wrong in Canada, and Americans change their feelings towards that.

01:17:47.000 Maybe we could be like, oh, remember when Trump thought this was a good idea?

01:17:51.000 We're warming people up to it.

01:17:52.000 I'm warming you up to it, Phil.

01:17:54.000 I don't know if you're warming up to it or not.

01:17:57.000 I don't think so.

01:17:58.000 I do think that the argument that the government makes about Greenland being important to national security is legitimate, but I don't think that – I think that it'll likely be some kind of military base that we lease an area to install a military base.

01:18:20.000 I'm pretty sure that there's already a U.S. military base there, at least one.

01:18:24.000 The president and J.D. Vance were both talking about economic incentives to Greenland to get them to allow more.

01:18:32.000 And I think that's what it's going to end up winding up being.

01:18:35.000 I believe during World War II, we did occupy Greenland again to secure their liberty.

01:18:41.000 Because someone else was not occupying.

01:18:43.000 No, exactly.

01:18:44.000 So again, I think this will have a similar casus belli.

01:18:47.000 There'll be a similar political crisis that the United States will be able to utilize.

01:18:53.000 We should have stayed in Greenland post-World War II. 1.00

01:18:56.000 So you think that it'll be a similar?

01:18:59.000 Well, there's going to be a big World War II.

01:19:03.000 It's Denmark that actually owns Greenland, right?

01:19:05.000 Sure, yeah, but if something pops off in Europe— If something pops off in Europe, hey, maybe we'll see how things go in Ukraine and Russia.

01:19:14.000 Who knows down the line?

01:19:15.000 I'm just keeping my options open in my expansionist dream here.

01:19:18.000 We probably shouldn't have left post-World War II, and we probably shouldn't have ever given back the Panama Canal.

01:19:24.000 Worst trade deal in history.

01:19:26.000 Well, the Panama Canal stuff, I agree.

01:19:28.000 That shouldn't have...

01:19:29.000 That was just very...

01:19:32.000 I believe it was Jimmy Carter just trying to flex.

01:19:36.000 I don't know.

01:19:36.000 I'm not old enough to remember.

01:19:37.000 Jimmy Carter had some bad ideas.

01:19:38.000 I think it was like, oh, we're decolonizing or what have you.

01:19:41.000 I don't think that it was decolonizing.

01:19:43.000 I mean, that was the idea where it's decolonization.

01:19:45.000 No, I don't think that it was actually decolonization.

01:19:48.000 I think that it was economic.

01:19:49.000 I don't think that it was like, oh, we're actually...

01:19:52.000 Their argument was that we're colonizing them, and I think Jimmy Carter's angle was... 0.97

01:20:11.000 Yeah, dumb trade deals. 0.96

01:20:14.000 Liberate Greenland for no reason. 0.99

01:20:17.000 Then give back Panama Canal for no reason.

01:20:20.000 Let Canada exist.

01:20:21.000 Again, we're footing their defense.

01:20:24.000 We're their biggest trade partner.

01:20:26.000 And what do we get out of it?

01:20:28.000 Nothing.

01:20:28.000 We get the raw end of the stick.

01:20:30.000 And I'm glad President Trump actually recognizes this stuff.

01:20:32.000 Carter, you're loving this.

01:20:38.000 I mean, I don't know that I share your estimation of whether we should or should not have given back Greenland or whatever.

01:20:51.000 Or the canal.

01:20:52.000 I think that the canal actually was a bad idea.

01:20:57.000 I think the U.S. should have kept at least a presence on the canal.

01:21:07.000 I don't know.

01:21:08.000 Why not take Greenland?

01:21:09.000 I give it up.

01:21:11.000 We should have kept it while we had it.

01:21:14.000 Yeah.

01:21:14.000 But it was a treaty.

01:21:16.000 We still have a treaty, I think, with Denmark allowing us to operate there.

01:21:20.000 Like I said earlier, I think that it'll end up being the U.S. having some kind of military presence, maybe another military base or a couple military bases or something.

01:21:28.000 But I don't think that there's a whole lot of benefit to taking Greenland because most of it...

01:21:37.000 You know, there's abandoned underground nuclear bases.

01:21:40.000 Are there?

01:21:41.000 The Nazi's base is there?

01:21:43.000 The US tried building weapons depots and launch sites and struggled, so they built these big underground bunkers and then left.

01:21:49.000 So they're there, and they're extremely valuable.

01:21:52.000 Yep.

01:21:53.000 There was so much going on post-World War II that I think if we turned it into a territory...

01:21:59.000 Greenland.

01:21:59.000 It would have just been a bookmark in history and we would have just accepted it.

01:22:06.000 And it's only by happenstance that we've not had our proper military control over it.

01:22:12.000 And so, in the name of justice, we must take Canada.

01:22:16.000 Monarchy is wrong.

01:22:18.000 You get so many death threats when I say that.

01:22:21.000 The Canadians acting up. 0.96

01:22:23.000 They got moose.

01:22:23.000 I don't know, though.

01:22:25.000 Moose are cool.

01:22:26.000 Is it Meese or Mooses?

01:22:28.000 The great documentary, Canadian Bacon, starring John Candy.

01:22:32.000 That's the film about the war between the United States and Canada.

01:22:36.000 You guys don't even know what that is, right?

01:22:37.000 I've never seen it, but I know the movie.

01:22:41.000 No idea.

01:22:42.000 It's Moose.

01:22:43.000 I know.

01:22:46.000 Let's jump.

01:22:46.000 We've got one more story for you guys.

01:22:47.000 There's actually a bunch.

01:22:48.000 We'll grab this one.

01:22:49.000 From The Independent, Jordan Peterson refuses to identify as a Christian in viral atheist debate.

01:22:55.000 This story is nuts.

01:22:57.000 I think it was, what, Sunday?

01:22:58.000 They put out this—Jubilee put out one Christian versus 20 atheists featuring Jordan Peterson.

01:23:05.000 Then after a major backlash from Christians who were like, Jordan Peterson is not a Christian, and even says in the show that he's not, they changed it to Jordan Peterson versus atheists.

01:23:14.000 To be fair, I think Jubilee should retitle it to Jordan Peterson versus 20 anti-Christians, because I don't even think it's fair to call them atheists.

01:23:23.000 Here's the clip in question, however, that is going massively viral.

01:23:46.000 I don't know.

01:23:47.000 You don't know where you are right now? 0.99

01:23:49.000 Don't be a smartass. 0.99

01:23:50.000 Well, either you're a Christian or you're not. 1.00

01:23:52.000 I won't talk to you if you're a smartass. 1.00

01:23:53.000 Either you're a Christian or you're not. 1.00

01:23:55.000 Which one is it?

01:23:56.000 I could be either of them, but I don't have to tell you.

01:23:59.000 You don't have to tell me.

01:24:00.000 I was under the impression.

01:24:02.000 I was invited to talk to a Christian.

01:24:04.000 Am I not talking to a Christian?

01:24:06.000 No, you were invited to I think everyone should look at the title You're really quite something, you are.

01:24:14.000 Aren't I?

01:24:14.000 But you're really quite nothing, right?

01:24:16.000 You're not a Christian. 1.00

01:24:16.000 Okay, I'm done with him. 1.00

01:24:18.000 Jordan Peterson is getting roasted by the left and the right because in this whole debate, or whatever you want to call it, he kept doing, I don't know, semantic games.

01:24:27.000 He said, what do you mean by believe?

01:24:30.000 And then the young man says, something you think to be true?

01:24:34.000 And he was like, no, now you're just claiming...

01:24:38.000 He's debating a guy, and he's asked whether or not he's a Christian.

01:24:41.000 He says, I could be either, but I'm not going to tell you, or I don't have to tell you.

01:24:43.000 And it's like, then what are you doing in this debate?

01:24:46.000 I think the issue is that Jubilee, this company, wanted a Christian versus atheist video, and they wanted a big name.

01:24:53.000 So they said, hey, Jordan Peterson, do you want to debate a bunch of atheists?

01:24:56.000 He said, sure.

01:24:57.000 They then wrote down Christian versus atheist.

01:25:00.000 Jordan Peterson comes in as some kind of deist, not Christian, and then...

01:25:07.000 Yeah, I mean, clearly Jordan Peterson wasn't there to defend Christianity from a position of, I believe Christ is my savior, right?

01:25:16.000 Like, if you're going to go in there and you're going to be defending Christianity, you shouldn't just defend the moral principles laid out in Christianity.

01:25:25.000 You should be there saying, no, I believe in God.

01:25:28.000 I believe that Jesus Christ is his son.

01:25:33.000 I believe that I'm saved through his grace.

01:25:36.000 You shouldn't be like, oh, you know, I like Christianity and I like the way that Christianity sets up society or the way that societies that are Christian end up being run. 0.98

01:25:48.000 I think that you should actually believe in Christianity.

01:25:50.000 I think that's a big problem here is he doesn't.

01:25:52.000 Let me play this other clip.

01:25:54.000 This is why Jordan Peterson is getting ragged on.

01:25:57.000 So do you believe in the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good notion of God?

01:26:00.000 What do you mean by believe?

01:26:03.000 You think it to be true.

01:26:05.000 That's the circular definition.

01:26:07.000 What do you mean when you say you believe?

01:26:09.000 How is that circular?

01:26:10.000 Because you added no content to the answer by substituting the word true and believe.

01:26:17.000 I said you think it to be true.

01:26:19.000 All right.

01:26:19.000 So if you believe something, you stake your life on it.

01:26:23.000 What do you mean by that?

01:26:25.000 You live for it and you die for it.

01:26:29.000 That's what I mean by that.

01:26:29.000 What?

01:26:30.000 It isn't something that you say.

01:26:32.000 It isn't something that's associated with logical consistency.

01:26:35.000 It's not declarative.

01:26:37.000 It's not propositional.

01:26:38.000 It's not a figment of your imagination.

01:26:41.000 It's the presupposition of your attention and your action.

01:26:45.000 And you're either fragmented, in which case you worship multiple gods, or there's some unity at the bottom of it that makes you an unstoppable force.

01:26:55.000 What?

01:26:56.000 Okay, so you're saying that you don't believe something if you wouldn't die for it?

01:26:59.000 Not really, no.

01:27:01.000 How would you define belief?

01:27:01.000 Okay.

01:27:03.000 Something you say?

01:27:04.000 Can I explain?

01:27:05.000 I could believe it is the case that this pen exists, but if someone threatened my life, I would lie in order to be able to save my life.

01:27:12.000 I think you would do that too.

01:27:14.000 You wouldn't lie to save your life?

01:27:15.000 Don't be so sure.

01:27:16.000 You wouldn't lie to save your life?

01:27:19.000 How much do you know about me?

01:27:20.000 I didn't lie to save my career.

01:27:22.000 I didn't lie to save my clinical practice.

01:27:26.000 Would you lie to, like, save your children, your mom, your dad?

01:27:28.000 I don't think lying would save them.

01:27:31.000 Can there ever be a circumstance, logically, that lying could save someone?

01:27:34.000 Yeah, and if you're steeped in sin, you're likely to live in circumstances like that.

01:27:38.000 I'll give you an example.

01:27:39.000 If you're, like, in, like, Nazi Germany, and it is the case that there's, like, Jewish people in your attic, and you're trying to protect them, would you lie to, like, the Nazis?

01:27:46.000 I would have done everything I bloody well could, so I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with.

01:27:51.000 It's a hypothetical, and it's not answerable.

01:27:54.000 No, I can't answer a hypothetical like that because it's fun.

01:27:59.000 Look, don't play games.

01:28:02.000 I don't understand what Jordan Peterson is at this point, to be honest.

01:28:08.000 This was hard for me because I think that Jordan Peterson contributed a lot to my own life going back before his fame even, the videos that I used to watch.

01:28:20.000 And I have actually said over and over again to many people in certain circumstances when you're being very transparent about your life and your own spiritual journey that he helped me a lot in rediscovering kind of who I am.

01:28:37.000 As a man and as a father.

01:28:41.000 And this, I couldn't, out of the half dozen or so of these that I watched, I couldn't finish any of them.

01:28:48.000 A few of his points he was right on.

01:28:51.000 I think the issue largely is Jubilee asked Jordan Peterson to debate atheists, and he's some kind of deist, not a Christian, and then told all these atheists, you're going to debate a Christian, which actually proves Jordan Peterson was right the whole time. 0.80

01:29:06.000 That being said, Jordan Peterson's performance was pretty miserable when he's like, what do you mean by believe?

01:29:09.000 Like, bro, you understand what he's saying.

01:29:12.000 If you want to clarify for the audience and say, I believe what you're saying by believe is – Okay, he's qualified his statement.

01:29:21.000 The issue is that...

01:29:28.000 And the fact that the Jubilee producers asked a bunch of anti-Christians to debate a deist proves the producers themselves don't know what atheism or Christianity or deism or God is.

01:29:40.000 Their minds, they thought one thing.

01:29:42.000 If you're an atheist, you don't believe in Jesus. 0.95

01:29:45.000 Jordan Peterson as a deist is saying God has many shapes and forms.

01:29:49.000 You don't know what you're saying no to.

01:29:51.000 At one point in the debate, where I do think he did well, he said that one of the definitions of God, I think Jonah in the Bible, is conscience, the voice of morality within you, not this all-knowing divine creator necessarily.

01:30:06.000 They're just saying, okay, well, I don't believe in Scripture.

01:30:09.000 And so Jordan Peterson is debating anti-Christians from the context of they don't believe God exists, and they're debating a deist based on their criticism of Christianity specifically.

01:30:19.000 All of the people who came in were debating Christianity, not Islam, not Hinduism, not Confucianism or anything else.

01:30:25.000 It was literally anti-Christians versus Jordan Peterson.

01:30:29.000 Horrifyingly embarrassing, though, for all of them.

01:30:31.000 I will say, Jubilee may have played some funny games with how they brought all of this together, but I think for me and any others who looked up to Jordan Peterson in the past and found a lot of meaning in a lot of his self-help early on are deeply saddened to see him like this.

01:30:45.000 The contrast between this interview and his body language here compared to the famous Kathy Newman interview years ago, I remember him.

01:30:54.000 He was sitting back, hanging out, ready to, you know, deflect or have some witty comeback to win.

01:31:00.000 Kathy was coming back against him there.

01:31:00.000 Whatever.

01:31:03.000 Here he's tense, sitting forward, stressed out.

01:31:08.000 I'm not.

01:31:09.000 I'm asking you what you think true means.

01:31:11.000 extremely serious as opposed to...

01:31:16.000 The conspiracy theory now is we have this major resurgence among the youth towards Christianity.

01:31:26.000 So actually, the episode I did with Bill Maher and Club Random came out, and one of the things we talked about a couple times was, you know, I asked him, like, you're an atheist.

01:31:33.000 It's obviously.

01:31:35.000 Why do you think atheism's losing?

01:31:38.000 And he agreed.

01:31:39.000 He's like, it's a good point.

01:31:40.000 Young people are becoming more religious.

01:31:42.000 The conspiracy theory is that Jordan Peterson was brought in as a heel, not Jordan Peterson intentionally, but other people brought him in, as he is not a good representation.

01:32:00.000 And this is the clever tactics that we'll see from liberals.

01:32:04.000 They're going to try and get people like Jordan Peterson.

01:32:07.000 They're going to create circumstances where they can laugh in your face.

01:32:10.000 This is my problem with real time with Bill Maher.

01:32:12.000 This is my problem with Jubilee.

01:32:15.000 Ben Shapiro came on the show and some trans person just berated him with a gish gallop for a minute and then got up and left and they all started hooting and clapping and cheering. 0.55

01:32:22.000 The intention is to manipulate.

01:32:24.000 young people into thinking that's power.

01:32:26.000 So here you have Jordan Peterson hemming and hawing, failing to answer basic questions and playing semantic games. 1.00

01:32:32.000 So young people are going to see this and be like, wow, Christians are dumb. 0.99

01:32:35.000 As a producer right now, could I chime in and just give my take on that? 0.99

01:32:41.000 Because it seemed like they were doing the whole Tim and Eric thing where they would go to the Like a funny-looking guy to just mog Jordan Peterson there.

01:32:51.000 But also, if you've read Jordan Peterson's book, one of the things he says is, don't lie or at least try to tell the truth.

01:32:57.000 Or I think it's the other way around.

01:32:58.000 Tell the truth or at least don't lie.

01:33:00.000 So if you were to say that, then he would break his own rule.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, but everyone's response to this particular video is that he failed the IQ test.

01:33:11.000 If you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?

01:33:14.000 Well, how can I know that?

01:33:16.000 I ate breakfast.

01:33:17.000 It's a hypothetical I can't answer.

01:33:19.000 And everyone's like, bro, the hypothetical is a guy breaks in your house and says, where is your daughter?

01:33:26.000 Do you tell him or not?

01:33:28.000 I don't know.

01:33:29.000 It's a hypothetical, Tim.

01:33:31.000 I'm not sure.

01:33:32.000 You can answer.

01:33:33.000 Stop playing games, Tim.

01:33:35.000 Or, you know, I think the other issue is that he just answered it poorly.

01:33:38.000 And I can make the argument that, you know.

01:33:43.000 In a situation like this, he doesn't come off as strong by saying, I can't answer that.

01:33:47.000 It's a hypothetical.

01:33:48.000 Or he can say, give me a modern context example.

01:33:50.000 Don't use the history generic one.

01:33:52.000 And then make him frame it in something like, a guy breaks into your house, which is a more generic issue.

01:33:59.000 The problem I largely see, though, is, the answer is easy.

01:34:03.000 You would lie to save your family members, no question.

01:34:06.000 Everyone would do it.

01:34:07.000 He didn't want to be pinned down by this guy.

01:34:09.000 Any of them.

01:34:10.000 Any of them.

01:34:11.000 And so he would never give any straightforward answers because he was concerned that they were going to trick him or something.

01:34:16.000 So instead of having an honest conversation, he just gives non-answers the whole time.

01:34:19.000 He's unrecognizable from his previous self now.

01:34:22.000 I feel like I'm watching a totally different guy.

01:34:25.000 I don't know what happened, but it doesn't feel like the same guy who I remember.

01:34:31.000 Honestly, I think that it does depend on the context, and I think that he's putting himself in places where he shouldn't be.

01:34:38.000 My girlfriend and I just watched the parenting thing that they're doing on Daily Wire.

01:34:44.000 For members, he's doing a series on parenting.

01:34:49.000 All of it was completely reasonable.

01:34:51.000 All the same kind of stuff that you'd expect from Jordan Peterson.

01:34:54.000 He seemed like he was intelligent. 0.95

01:34:56.000 Granted, it was a Daily Wire production, so they're not going to make him look like a fool or anything.

01:35:01.000 But the content was good, too.

01:35:03.000 The actual things that he was saying about how you deal with this situation with a child and that situation with a child.

01:35:09.000 It was completely reasonable.

01:35:11.000 So I do think that the context that he's in, this is not...

01:35:17.000 I think that it was the wrong guy to make these arguments.

01:35:21.000 When he was doing his big tour out with Dave Rubin, opening for him and that sort of thing, I went and saw him in Charlotte, a big theater there, Charlotte, North Carolina.

01:35:29.000 And I didn't know what to expect at that time, going back that far with him.

01:35:34.000 But he was about 98% apolitical.

01:35:38.000 He was 97%.

01:35:40.000 Irreligious.

01:35:42.000 There was no spin on anything whatsoever.

01:35:45.000 And he took about 15 minutes of awkwardness before he found his sea legs up there.

01:35:50.000 And then he was just brilliant.

01:35:53.000 And the one thing that we saw was all the young men with the books to get it signed.

01:35:59.000 It was just packed out of young men wanting to hear from this guy.

01:36:03.000 That's why this...

01:36:05.000 Well, I don't think...

01:36:11.000 No.

01:36:11.000 I do blame them.

01:36:12.000 There are jump cuts in there, notably in the first one about Christianity.

01:36:15.000 The guy says, I was invited here to talk to a Christian.

01:36:17.000 He says, no, you were invited here too, and then it jump cuts.

01:36:19.000 So we don't know what Jordan Peterson said.

01:36:21.000 It sounds to me like Jordan Peterson was arguing as a deist, or some form of deist, and Jubilee went and said, do you want to debate Christians?

01:36:31.000 So I actually agree with Jordan Peterson when he says atheists reject God without understanding it. 1.00

01:36:37.000 And it's because I would say 95% of conversations I have with atheists end up just arguing Christianity, to which I go, well, I'm not a Christian, so I don't know what you're arguing. 0.97

01:36:46.000 And they'll be like, well, like Jesus, this, and I'll be like, okay, well, I'm not talking about Christianity, so what are you arguing?

01:36:52.000 Almost every instance where I have a conversation about my belief in the existence of God, it results in them just arguing Scripture.

01:36:59.000 And then I'm like, agreed!

01:37:01.000 Now come back to the issue of God, and they can't tell the difference.

01:37:05.000 Jordan Peterson, I think, gets that right, but when you're in a room full of people who are anti-Christians, using the word atheist to describe that, it's a really easy attack vector.

01:37:15.000 One of the things he gets asked about is whether he rejects the god Lono.

01:37:19.000 Was it Lono, I think? 0.89

01:37:21.000 The Polynesian god?

01:37:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:37:23.000 And it's a stupid argument, but Jordan Peterson also didn't answer that one very well. 0.99

01:37:28.000 He says, I don't know. 1.00

01:37:29.000 I don't know anything about it.

01:37:30.000 And then they're saying, you're rejecting But that's the issue, I think, largely with these people.

01:37:38.000 They always base their disbelief in God on, they think God means, and I'm not saying literally every atheist, I'm saying there's a tendency among people who identify as atheists, they believe God means man in white robes with a beard flying in the sky.

01:37:54.000 And then when you try and explain something like, you know, with all due respect to Bill Maher, when I asked him if he understood Einsteinian God or Logos, He just chuckled and said, I love how people come up with cute ideas to try and give themselves this thing.

01:38:05.000 And I was like, I'm not saying I believe in scripture.

01:38:07.000 I don't know that Bill Maher understands the concept of logos, universal code, or any idea.

01:38:15.000 He largely just views narrative tales as religion.

01:38:19.000 So when he says he's an atheist, he's basically saying, I don't believe the Torah.

01:38:22.000 I don't believe the Bible.

01:38:23.000 I don't believe the Hadith or whatever, or the Quran.

01:38:26.000 He's saying, I don't believe your version of history.

01:38:29.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:38:30.000 Well, I don't care about that.

01:38:31.000 I care about the fundamental nature of reality.

01:38:34.000 Most atheists don't question it. 0.98

01:38:36.000 Because I think the issue is if you were to legitimately question the nature of reality, you'd probably conclude that you're at least agnostic, not atheist, not outright stating there is no God.

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01:41:56.000 We got Shane H. Wilder.

01:41:57.000 He says, with the COVID vaccine no longer being recommended by RFK Jr. and the new strain coming from China, what's the over-under on the left blaming the admin for people getting sick before the week is out?

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01:42:48.000 Omega Resetsu says, Stop helping your opposition while they are making mistakes.

01:42:51.000 Sun Tzu weeps at your exposition, Tim.

01:42:54.000 Which one are you referring to?

01:42:55.000 I don't know what that is.

01:42:57.000 No idea.

01:42:58.000 The Democrats should have to pay you for that advice.

01:43:00.000 I don't know what you said about it.

01:43:01.000 Probably in the first segment.

01:43:02.000 I also gave some advice.

01:43:04.000 If there's no amount of money they could pay me to give them the strategy they need, to be fair, however, maybe not.

01:43:14.000 If they came to me and said, Tim, we will pay you $5 million to tell us what to do to win back young men, I'd say yes. 0.90

01:43:21.000 You know why?

01:43:22.000 I'd say drop the weird trans stuff, secure the border, Stop selling out our jobs to China. 1.00

01:43:29.000 Look at what Trump is saying.

01:43:31.000 Those are the policies that resonate with young men.

01:43:32.000 Thank you.

01:43:33.000 I'll take my money now.

01:43:34.000 I think it's that they can't affect the advice that you'd give them.

01:43:38.000 So you wouldn't just say drop the trend stuff.

01:43:42.000 Welcome people who might be anti-trans into the party, but they won't be able to do that because of their purity test.

01:43:48.000 So no matter what advice, they're in a catch-22.

01:43:51.000 They can't take our advice.

01:43:52.000 It's a death spiral.

01:43:53.000 That's the point.

01:43:54.000 That's why it's like if they offered me the money to give them advice, I'd say sure, because they can't take it.

01:43:58.000 They want these policies.

01:44:00.000 The issue is those policies are toxic.

01:44:03.000 People don't like them in general.

01:44:05.000 So when they're like, how do we win young men over?

01:44:07.000 Stop pushing policies that freak people out.

01:44:10.000 But those are the policies we want. 0.90

01:44:11.000 They're basically saying, how do we convince young men to be okay with cutting off children's genitals? 0.50

01:44:16.000 And it's like, you're not going to be able to. 0.70

01:44:17.000 It's just not going to happen.

01:44:19.000 How do you convince young men to allow us to scapegoat them is really what they need.

01:44:24.000 Right.

01:44:25.000 Yep, they're not happy with that.

01:44:27.000 So if the Democrats today just came out, I'm talking like Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, and they said, woke is broke. 0.96

01:44:36.000 It's disgusting.

01:44:37.000 We no longer want to be involved in it.

01:44:39.000 It was a mistake to attain it in the first place.

01:44:40.000 I'd clap.

01:44:41.000 I'd say, great. 1.00

01:44:42.000 Then if some dude emerged, an unknown who was a Democrat, and he was like, woke is dumb. 0.99

01:44:47.000 It's bad. 0.95

01:44:48.000 The Democrats should protect working class individuals.

01:44:51.000 We should rework these free trade deals so that we can bring manufacturing back to the United States and stop getting ripped off by China.

01:44:56.000 I'd be like, sounds like Trump.

01:44:59.000 But it's crazy. 0.98

01:45:01.000 Their policies are just nonsense. 0.74

01:45:02.000 If the Democrats followed our advice, they wouldn't be Democrats anymore. 0.63

01:45:05.000 Exactly.

01:45:06.000 That's what it comes down to.

01:45:08.000 Yep.

01:45:09.000 The Emperor's Champion says the same thing Democrats are trying reminds me of when SpongeBob tried to get into the Tough Guy bar but fails and has to go to the Weenie Hut.

01:45:19.000 Weenie Hut Juniors.

01:45:21.000 Is that what it was?

01:45:22.000 Yeah, throwback.

01:45:23.000 Weenie Hut Juniors.

01:45:26.000 Oh, man.

01:45:28.000 JB Rocky says, or JB Rocky says, Homer is an astronaut like Katy Perry.

01:45:34.000 Yep.

01:45:34.000 The point is, it's actually pretty funny, in The Simpsons and in Family Guy, they get all— It's a show about a middle-aged guy who gets random odd jobs.

01:45:47.000 That's what it is.

01:45:48.000 I mean, these days, I have no idea what the show's about.

01:45:50.000 They're on season 35, and it's like, Abe Simpson's gay now or something.

01:45:54.000 I didn't know they still had the show going.

01:45:55.000 Yeah, I'm not kidding.

01:45:57.000 There was an episode where Abe was making out with a guy.

01:46:01.000 I don't even know what character Abe is.

01:46:03.000 Grandpa Simpson.

01:46:04.000 Oh, okay. 0.97

01:46:05.000 They made him gay.

01:46:06.000 They made an episode, I think, where Bart gets mad that they gender-swapped Itchy and Scratchy and made him girls. 0.76

01:46:10.000 Well, if you run that long, you just need to start including gay people in your show. 1.00

01:46:14.000 Well, let's just base episodes off of stuff that's happening, I guess.

01:46:18.000 Homer was originally 37, I think, when the show first started.

01:46:23.000 But there's an episode where Homer lists all of his jobs, and then you're like, it really is just a show about a guy who gets eye jobs.

01:46:29.000 But the astronaut was one of them.

01:46:30.000 I love the...

01:46:35.000 Okay, so remember when Douglas Murray went on Rogan with Dave Smith?

01:46:41.000 And he was like, Dave, when was the last time you've been to The Crossings?

01:46:44.000 And Dave's like, I've never gone.

01:46:46.000 He goes, really?

01:46:48.000 You've never been?

01:46:49.000 That was the perfect meme moment because in The Simpsons, there's the meme where Grimes, Grimey, as Homer liked to call them, goes to his house and he's like...

01:47:01.000 You've been to outer space!

01:47:02.000 And Homer goes, yes!

01:47:04.000 You've never been?

01:47:06.000 Yeah, that reminds me of the Douglas Murray thing.

01:47:09.000 Alright, what do we got?

01:47:12.000 Let's see here.

01:47:14.000 Koss Jeyer says, Tim, have you tried talking with Tech Deck, the fingerboard you play with, for your board design?

01:47:19.000 Um, excuse me.

01:47:24.000 So first of all, we don't use tech decks.

01:47:25.000 These are fingerboards.

01:47:27.000 And someone actually made this for us.

01:47:29.000 This is the Rooster Tim Pool board from Boonies HQ on a fingerboard.

01:47:33.000 And it's one of the best fingerboards I've ever used.

01:47:36.000 And I really am quite good, I suppose.

01:47:39.000 That's what you're doing when you're fidgeting as a kid.

01:47:41.000 You know, you got a little skateboard on your desk and you're doing flips with it and stuff.

01:47:44.000 But yeah, somebody made a bunch of the Boonies boards as fingerboards for us. 0.99

01:47:49.000 I should figure out who did it.

01:47:51.000 I'm sure the Boonies crew was like, Tim, come on, how do you not know the guy's name?

01:47:53.000 There's not only a full skate park here, but there's also a full mini skate park here for the finger.

01:47:59.000 We actually have someone building a miniature version of the full park.

01:48:04.000 I think it'll be here in a couple weeks.

01:48:06.000 We're going to put it upstairs and you're going to have a fingerboard version of the full skate park.

01:48:11.000 Very nice.

01:48:12.000 Of course.

01:48:13.000 I don't know if the mini ramp is going to be included.

01:48:16.000 Alright, what do we have here?

01:48:18.000 Mr. Laxative.

01:48:20.000 Is that what that says?

01:48:21.000 Have you heard that Alberta is attempting to separate from Canada and Trump is offered to allow them to be covered by the Golden Dome for free if they become the 51st state?

01:48:30.000 Yeah, Alberta is a separatist movement, I believe.

01:48:33.000 I don't know how prominent it is.

01:48:34.000 Quebec did years ago.

01:48:35.000 They almost got out.

01:48:39.000 I mean, it was a fraction of a percentage point that they managed to get enough vote to stay within the Canadian Union, if they call it that.

01:48:48.000 But they were almost out.

01:48:50.000 That's another Trojan horse for American annexation of Canada.

01:48:53.000 If Quebec splits apart, then maybe some other provinces might get some ideas.

01:48:58.000 That's our opportunity to strike.

01:48:59.000 There you go.

01:49:02.000 Metaphorically.

01:49:03.000 Our opportunity to strike.

01:49:05.000 Let's see what we have here.

01:49:07.000 Guys, Canadian bacon.

01:49:08.000 You don't get the reference.

01:49:09.000 I can't.

01:49:09.000 John Nakos says, I don't know what to do, man.

01:49:28.000 You need a lawyer.

01:49:31.000 Yeah, and I mean, without knowing more, it's tough to say that, you know.

01:49:38.000 What exactly do you mean by defended yourself?

01:49:42.000 The security guard, you know, violated your rights.

01:49:46.000 I mean, it's not saying you're lying, but, you know, it's tough to make a call off of a super chat.

01:49:55.000 Roflow, 1804, says, confirmed Jordan Peterson wouldn't save the Jews in Nazi Germany.

01:49:58.000 He's a Nazi and Michaela was raised by a Nazi. 0.71

01:50:01.000 To be fair, though, Jordan Peterson's response was essentially that.

01:50:05.000 He could have just said to him, no, I wouldn't lie.

01:50:07.000 And they would have been like, if you have Jews hiding in your attic, you wouldn't lie to save them? 0.99

01:50:11.000 No, I wouldn't.

01:50:12.000 Well, I think he said, I wouldn't allow myself to get into that position, because if you got into that position, then you've already sinned so many times.

01:50:19.000 He was doing mental gymnastics, but yeah.

01:50:22.000 I think he could have phrased it like, well, I understand the hypothetical you're giving me, but I would never allow Jews to hide in my attic. 0.99

01:50:29.000 Tim, would you allow Jews to hide in your attic?

01:50:31.000 Yes. 0.71

01:50:32.000 Nice.

01:50:33.000 Just not you.

01:50:33.000 Would you lie?

01:50:38.000 But, I mean, I am, and I would.

01:50:40.000 Yeah.

01:50:41.000 Absolutely, I would.

01:50:42.000 Yeah, and I don't understand why Jordan Peterson wouldn't just answer the question.

01:50:46.000 It's not like the fact that we make sacrifices or sin means that Christianity is wrong.

01:50:52.000 He didn't want to let them have any logical standing point.

01:50:57.000 He was being precise in his speech.

01:50:59.000 Sure.

01:51:00.000 Are you a Christian?

01:51:01.000 Maybe.

01:51:02.000 Well, are you or not?

01:51:03.000 I don't bloody well have to tell you.

01:51:05.000 It's like, I'm trying to have a conversation with you, bro.

01:51:08.000 If you're not, just say so and we'll have a different discussion.

01:51:10.000 That's what's annoying.

01:51:11.000 I wanted to say I appreciate you guys at a rising time, during a rising time of anti-Semitism.

01:51:16.000 heartwarming to know that you guys would hide me in your attic if need be.

01:51:19.000 You know, there's a Thank you.

01:51:24.000 There's a funny story I read.

01:51:25.000 I don't know where the story comes from.

01:51:27.000 Maybe it's like a famous thing or something.

01:51:29.000 But someone was like, a teacher said to his students, How many of you would have been an abolitionist in the Civil War?

01:51:36.000 And they all raised their hands.

01:51:38.000 And he was like, so, okay, you all raised your hands.

01:51:42.000 Name something today that you've done that would get you fired from your job that is considered widely offensive and goes against the social order.

01:51:51.000 And none of them had anything to say.

01:51:53.000 And he was like, this is the thing.

01:51:55.000 Everybody today says, I'd be against slavery, but back then, most people did not care at all.

01:52:01.000 And slavery was a normal thing everywhere.

01:52:04.000 And it was just, I think the issue is that people, when they think of slavery, they think of like Kunta Kinte or whatever.

01:52:12.000 They think of people being whipped in a field.

01:52:14.000 And they don't understand that a lot of slavery was like a guy, a cobbler. 0.51

01:52:18.000 There's like a black man who works at a shoe store and he has no rights. 1.00

01:52:20.000 He can't vote.

01:52:21.000 He can't leave.

01:52:22.000 He can't do anything.

01:52:22.000 If he tries to go and live his own life, they'll chase him down.

01:52:25.000 Slavery wasn't all just working on farms.

01:52:27.000 There were lots of urban – there were slaves that worked in houses. 0.58

01:52:31.000 Slavery was just – individuals had no freedom, no rights, and it was from bad to worse.

01:52:37.000 But because everybody assumes it was all the epitome of the most vile evil, they'd say, of course I'm against it.

01:52:44.000 And then what would happen is they'd walk into a shoe store and see a guy making shoes, and they wouldn't think twice.

01:52:48.000 They wouldn't be like, I'll help you escape.

01:52:49.000 They'd be like, thanks for the shoes, mister.

01:52:51.000 Slavery was such a part of the human condition for thousands of years.

01:52:57.000 It still is.

01:52:58.000 It still is, of course.

01:52:59.000 There's more now today than even back in the founding of this country.

01:53:07.000 But when our black slaves became free in this country, They became some of the highest percentage of slave owners themselves, follow-up, because once they were freed and they acquired land and then they acquired property, part of that property were other human beings. 0.63

01:53:27.000 I know because you can actually go, you can look this up and you can see state by state because I was horrified that the state that I was born and bred in, Louisiana, actually had the highest percentage of black slave-owning blacks or the highest percentage of black who owned slaves.

01:53:45.000 And I believe that was also the case with Liberia, I believe it was, where former slaves went, we sent them back to Africa, and they ended up enslaving and copying the plantations that they were familiar with over here.

01:53:57.000 And they have a similar constitution, I believe, to the United States, but they've...

01:54:05.000 Well, you can't take a bunch of slaves, people who couldn't read or write or understand the constitution that they were given. 0.95

01:54:13.000 Dump them in a faraway land and say, best of luck, and then expect a country to emerge. 1.00

01:54:17.000 Silly. 1.00

01:54:18.000 Let's read this. 0.99

01:54:18.000 We got Lurch. 0.99

01:54:19.000 685 says, it's about extricating Israeli influence on our politics. 1.00

01:54:24.000 You can't be this dumb. 0.99

01:54:25.000 Oh, we found an Israel first guy. 1.00

01:54:27.000 Hey, I did the math for you.

01:54:29.000 Top 10 countries in terms of foreign, in terms of spending, overt spending, known spending to influence our political system.

01:54:40.000 From 2016 through 2024.

01:54:42.000 Let's play again.

01:54:43.000 What country is the number one spender in the United States?

01:54:48.000 Do you guys want to guess first?

01:54:51.000 Which country is the number one?

01:54:53.000 What is the top spender, and this is overt legal money, for influencing U.S. political systems, the number one country that spends the most money?

01:55:02.000 China.

01:55:02.000 I'd go China in a heartbeat.

01:55:04.000 I'd say China.

01:55:05.000 Ding, ding, ding!

01:55:05.000 You are all correct!

01:55:06.000 China spent $456.9 million through 2016 to 2024.

01:55:12.000 Let's try again.

01:55:13.000 Number two.

01:55:14.000 The second country that spent the second most money over this time period.

01:55:22.000 So I'm going to go non-traditional guess.

01:55:24.000 I want to say it's maybe an East Asian company.

01:55:27.000 Maybe Japan. 0.69

01:55:28.000 You're looking at the monitor.

01:55:30.000 No, I swear.

01:55:30.000 No, no, no, no.

01:55:32.000 Is it up?

01:55:33.000 No, no, no.

01:55:34.000 I'm familiar with these numbers because I've heard the argument a lot of times.

01:55:38.000 Japan spent $410 million over this time period.

01:55:41.000 Let's go to number three.

01:55:42.000 The country that spent the third most amount of money influencing U.S. politics.

01:55:47.000 Now, again, overtly through lobbying campaigns, ad spending, PACs, etc.

01:55:53.000 UAE.

01:55:54.000 Now I think this one's Qatar.

01:55:56.000 I'd say United Arab Emirates.

01:55:58.000 Saudis? 0.96

01:55:59.000 Liberia.

01:56:00.000 At $353.1 million.

01:56:03.000 Number four.

01:56:06.000 Qatar? 0.56

01:56:07.000 South Korea.

01:56:09.000 $322 million.

01:56:10.000 Number five.

01:56:12.000 Saudi Arabia, $309 million.

01:56:13.000 Marshall Islands, $285 million.

01:56:17.000 Qatar.

01:56:18.000 Number seven at $256.3 million.

01:56:21.000 Emirates at $242 million.

01:56:23.000 The Bahamas at $241 million.

01:56:25.000 Bermuda at 192.7.

01:56:27.000 And Honestly, I don't know.

01:56:31.000 It's so far down the list.

01:56:33.000 They spent, over this time period, through their subsidiaries, direct government spending, AIPAC, etc., $37 million.

01:56:40.000 Wait, that includes AIPAC?

01:56:41.000 Yes.

01:56:42.000 Okay, interesting, because traditionally I understand AIPAC to not be, they don't have to register as far as it's American citizens supporting them.

01:56:49.000 AIPAC included.

01:56:50.000 Interesting.

01:56:51.000 Yep.

01:56:53.000 When you add all the numbers up, you get a total of 30. Oh, no, I'm sorry.

01:56:59.000 It's about 40-some-odd million.

01:57:00.000 So let's see.

01:57:01.000 Let me do the math quick.

01:57:02.000 So you've got AIPAC at 40, and then you've got Israel at 5.7.

01:57:08.000 So let's just roll it up and say 50. 50 million.

01:57:11.000 But those are Americans supporting Israelis as opposed to the Israelis trying to donate money, right?

01:57:19.000 Sure, call it whatever you want.

01:57:20.000 The point is, this is from Open Secrets, Foreign Lobby Watch.

01:57:24.000 If you think Open Secrets is secretly run by the Jews and they're lying to obviously get how much money the Jews are spending, fine. 0.99

01:57:29.000 You can believe whatever you want.

01:57:30.000 But according to Open Watch, foreign lobby spending, Israel's not even in the top ten.

01:57:34.000 That's why I say, you have to live in this world where there's a bunch of, like, they think Jews are running around controlling everything.

01:57:42.000 Because when you actually look at the data and go over all of it, you're like, yeah, they don't.

01:57:46.000 It's not a salacious.

01:57:47.000 They're not spending the money.

01:57:48.000 Well, they're spending it somehow.

01:57:49.000 They're not telling you.

01:57:50.000 It's like, dude, okay, well, live in whatever world you want.

01:57:52.000 Some people think the earth is flat.

01:57:53.000 If I don't have data to back something up, I'm not going to just assert it.

01:57:57.000 Open watch, foreign lobby spending.

01:57:59.000 I'm sorry, open secrets.

01:58:00.000 Maybe they're wrong.

01:58:01.000 It's possible.

01:58:02.000 Okay, for now, when I do research, regardless of what the lunatics believe, and regardless of what people tell me, whether they're experts or otherwise, what I find is Israel's not even in the top ten.

01:58:12.000 Cutter's number seven.

01:58:15.000 Qatar spends, what, eight times as much as Israel does, according to Open Secrets.

01:58:19.000 It would be interesting to get those numbers per capita as well, because China's number one, but China's a country of over a billion people.

01:58:26.000 Qatar's a country of 300,000 people.

01:58:29.000 Worth mentioning.

01:58:30.000 Korea also, I don't know, 30-plus million.

01:58:33.000 But these are bigger countries, especially compared to Qatar.

01:58:36.000 Michael Lorenz says, Peter Griffin had odd jobs.

01:58:39.000 Homer Simpson was a nuclear plant operator.

01:58:41.000 Oh boy, you are so wrong.

01:58:42.000 List all jobs Homer Simpson had.

01:58:45.000 Did he get fired from the nuclear plant?

01:58:48.000 I thought that was a big part of the show.

01:58:51.000 I mean, probably 15 times.

01:58:52.000 Multiple.

01:58:53.000 Okay, let's see.

01:58:54.000 He's had, let's see.

01:58:56.000 Safety Inspector of the Nuclear Power Plant, Astronaut, Mayor, Boxer, Food Critic, Grease Salesman, Bodyguard for Mayor Quimby, Country Western Manager for Lorraine Lumpkin, Garbage Commissioner, Mountain Climber, Farmer, Inventor, Crusty the Clown Impersonator, Voice of Pooch, Celebrity Assistant to Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger.

01:59:11.000 Passenger?

01:59:11.000 Fortune cookie writer, beer baron, cookie mart clerk, missionary, monorail conductor, snowplow operator, hairdresser, bounty hunter, opera singer, mall Santa, union leader, telemarketer, chauffeur, home...

01:59:22.000 I can't read all this.

01:59:24.000 Yo, this is crazy.

01:59:25.000 There's so many episodes.

01:59:26.000 He was the mayor, a judge, he was an executioner, a croupier, a voice actor, a singer, a musician, a record producer, a talent scout.

01:59:33.000 He's been a TV show host, a guest, a consistent, a judge, a producer, a director, a writer, an editor, a cameraman, a sound engineer.

01:59:38.000 Come on.

01:59:40.000 Literally, The Simpsons is a show about a guy who has jobs.

01:59:43.000 He's been a masked vigilante.

01:59:45.000 He's been the white knight, the black knight, a cyborg, an android, a clone, a time traveler.

01:59:49.000 Okay, you get it?

01:59:50.000 But his most important job, being a father.

01:59:53.000 Wow, this is crazy.

01:59:54.000 I had no idea that he had so many jobs.

01:59:57.000 Yeah.

02:00:04.000 Some of these are redundant.

02:00:06.000 Like, time travel's not a job.

02:00:07.000 If this was like talking about Family Guy and these are all the cut scenes that were just like, you know, 30 seconds to a minute of the show, I mean, that would make more sense.

02:00:17.000 But I had no idea that Homer Simpson had that many jobs.

02:00:24.000 There's an episode from the early seasons where Homer goes, Marge, you know I've had a lot of jobs in my life?

02:00:30.000 Snowplow operator?

02:00:31.000 Crusty the clown impersonator?

02:00:32.000 Astronaut.

02:00:33.000 And he just starts listing all the jobs he's had.

02:00:37.000 Peter Griffin's had a lot of jobs, too.

02:00:39.000 And it's nowhere near as many as Homer Simpson's.

02:00:42.000 I can actually go through all the jobs Peter Griffin said.

02:00:45.000 Safety inspector, fisherman, shipping clerk, towel boy, serial mascot, bartender, Calvin Klein model, Grim Reaper replacement.

02:00:51.000 That doesn't sound like a job.

02:00:52.000 Pianist, producer, school board director, sex ed teacher, temporary principal, waiter, ghostbuster, sheriff, hitman, president, recycling mascot, sumo wrestler, night volunteer, singer, CPR instructor, cashier, fast food worker, CEO, dictator, and United Nations interpreter, opera singer, bomb diffuser, and those are the cutaway gags.

02:01:08.000 So in actual episodes, it's like 25. Yeah, you ain't hanging with Homer Simpson, dude.

02:01:14.000 He's got all the jobs.

02:01:16.000 Alright, what do we got here?

02:01:19.000 You know what I really don't like about communists?

02:01:33.000 Right now, here's how our tax system works.

02:01:35.000 If you work 40 hours, and they say it's an 8-hour day, And it's a five-day work week.

02:01:44.000 Okay.

02:01:45.000 If I choose to work more than that, I get taxed more.

02:01:48.000 They punish me for working harder.

02:01:51.000 That's our current tax system.

02:01:52.000 A lot of people came at me and they were like, yes, but what about no tax on overtime?

02:01:56.000 Does not apply to salaries.

02:01:58.000 So if you say to somebody, we'll pay you $100,000 a year salary job to do this work.

02:02:03.000 And then you go, I want to work 16-hour days every day with no day off.

02:02:06.000 They say, okay.

02:02:09.000 You get no more money for that.

02:02:11.000 And then, so let's say two people apply for a job, and they're like, we can pay you a salaried position.

02:02:16.000 Let's say you're a business owner, right?

02:02:18.000 And you're like, if I work weekends, I will make an additional $10,000 a month.

02:02:25.000 But because that puts me in a higher tax bracket, I lose money by doing it.

02:02:29.000 It is a diminishing return on working hard.

02:02:31.000 So how about this?

02:02:33.000 Here's my proposal.

02:02:35.000 Taxes only on the first 40 hours worked.

02:02:39.000 And if you're salaried, you list your hours every week, and then we divide how much you get paid in salary by those hours, and you're only taxed on the first 40 hours.

02:02:50.000 That way, you can choose to work more, and when you do, you don't lose money by doing so.

02:02:56.000 Taxes not—so Trump passed—they passed the big, beautiful bill, no tax on overtime.

02:02:59.000 I'm saying straight up, no taxes on anything past 40 hours.

02:03:04.000 I'd accomplish that in three days.

02:03:06.000 We take a lot on taxes.

02:03:08.000 Anything that minimizes taxes, I'm going to be okay with.

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02:04:55.000 How's it going?

02:06:14.000 Now we're back! 0.98

02:06:16.000 Snape is black. 0.98

02:06:18.000 Hermione Granger is Mexican.

02:06:23.000 That's good.

02:06:24.000 That's good.

02:06:25.000 But, you know, it's because millennials are woke, I guess. 0.99

02:06:29.000 I actually think this new Harry Potter is fucked, and it's probably not going to work. 0.97

02:06:35.000 Excuse my ignorance, who's Snape in the Harry Potter? 0.98

02:06:38.000 He's one of the teachers.

02:06:44.000 It's not that big a deal.

02:06:45.000 So, you know, they got...

02:06:50.000 I don't even remember her name.

02:06:51.000 Hermione?

02:06:52.000 No, like the actual actress.

02:06:53.000 Emma something, right?

02:06:54.000 Emma Watson?

02:06:55.000 Yeah.

02:06:56.000 Is that Emma Watson?

02:06:57.000 Oh, that was Emma Watson back in the day?

02:06:58.000 I don't think that's Emma Watson.

02:06:58.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:07:00.000 Emma Watson?

02:07:01.000 Is that her name?

02:07:02.000 I don't know who these people are, man.

02:07:04.000 Maybe it is.

02:07:05.000 Oh yeah, it is.

02:07:05.000 Yeah, Emma Watson.

02:07:06.000 Okay, I know her name.

02:07:07.000 So they have this young, Everyone's calling her Hermione Gonzalez. 0.78

02:07:13.000 I think she might be like Pakistani or something. 0.99

02:07:16.000 I don't think she's Mexican.

02:07:17.000 Because they're British, aren't they? 0.99

02:07:20.000 But they announced this is the new cast.

02:07:23.000 Harry Potter, Ron Weasley.

02:07:25.000 They're doing a TV series on HBO.

02:07:27.000 Snape, who is a white man, is now a black man.

02:07:31.000 Yeah.

02:07:33.000 Papa Essiedu is the guy.

02:07:37.000 Given how big of an alleged transphobic bigot J.K. Rowling is, the author of Harry Potter, this should be perceived as a win that they're even running with this TV show.

02:07:47.000 That they're even allowing it to proceed.

02:07:49.000 Because at least in the UK or whatnot, she is loathed, as I understand, by the far left because of her stance on trans issues.

02:07:58.000 Why is J.K. Rowling even allowing this?

02:08:03.000 I imagine that she doesn't have any creative control over it.

02:08:07.000 No, but she has the rights to Harry Potter.

02:08:09.000 Unless she sold them all completely.

02:08:11.000 She probably licensed it.

02:08:12.000 At some point when she probably signed the contract itself, she's relinquished some creative content control over part of it.

02:08:22.000 Because that's just the way it works, whether it's television, movies, or music business.

02:08:27.000 But it's actually very rare.

02:08:30.000 You would think, though, she But that could have gone all the way back to a contract she signed a long, long time.

02:08:38.000 She's a liberal, though.

02:08:40.000 She'd otherwise be progressive if it weren't for the trans issue, which the left purity tested her out of the party as a result of. 1.00

02:08:47.000 This really embodies what we were talking about on the show earlier today, how she would be a Democrat for all other intents and purposes if it weren't for the trans issue. 0.73

02:08:56.000 Not even if it weren't for the trans issue. 1.00

02:08:58.000 If they didn't exile her on her position on the trans issue, she'd still be welcome in amongst liberals.

02:09:04.000 Right. 0.93

02:09:04.000 She was saying before that Hermione was black. 0.93

02:09:07.000 Yeah, and that still wasn't good enough.

02:09:08.000 She was like, I never said Hermione was white.

02:09:10.000 I said she had frizzled hair. 1.00

02:09:11.000 She was black. 1.00

02:09:12.000 But you can't trans her characters.

02:09:14.000 You could just change everything else about them.

02:09:15.000 It should.

02:09:16.000 So I guess.

02:09:17.000 But I mean, in a Harry Potter world, I feel like trans people isn't even too far off the...

02:09:24.000 Or read the book.

02:09:25.000 I actually, I don't think there's any issue with this actress playing Hermione.

02:09:30.000 A lot of people wanted to make jokes, but they were like, I don't want to make fun of children, so I'll just stay out of it.

02:09:35.000 And it's like, okay, make fun of Black Snape, I guess.

02:09:37.000 Because it's funny, they're making him, like, I love how the character they chose to race swap is kind of a weaselly character.

02:09:46.000 Snape is perceived as villainous until the very end.

02:09:50.000 So they're just like, if we're going to make this, if there's got to be a black character, make sure it's the bad one. 1.00

02:09:55.000 I had a much bigger problem with the race swapping and the characterization of the races in Dune, the Villeneuve version of Dune.

02:10:03.000 What an awful movie.

02:10:04.000 It was so disappointing, and I'm a Dune nerd.

02:10:09.000 No, Dune's awful.

02:10:10.000 What's that?

02:10:11.000 Those movies were terrible.

02:10:12.000 Oh, no, no, all of them.

02:10:14.000 The books were better?

02:10:16.000 Oh, yeah.

02:10:17.000 The movies were miserable.

02:10:18.000 The original six books by Frank Herbert are...

02:10:22.000 But, you know, for one thing, you're talking about a people, a desert people, that have lived in this desert for 10,000 years at this point.

02:10:31.000 They've lived in this desert, and yet some are white, some are just pitch black, some are tan, some are brown.

02:10:37.000 No, they would all be, in 10,000 years, this race of people would all be brown. 1.00

02:10:43.000 Every one of them.

02:10:44.000 When Dune first came out, the new one, like the remake, I think they simultaneously released it on Amazon or something in theaters.

02:10:51.000 Because it was like during COVID, wasn't it?

02:10:52.000 Yeah, they did that.

02:10:53.000 We got through, I think, like 40 minutes or whatever.

02:10:55.000 And then everybody was pissed.

02:10:57.000 We had like six, seven people watching at the castle.

02:10:59.000 And then they were just like, turn it off.

02:11:01.000 And we got up and left.

02:11:02.000 Were these Dune people? 0.99

02:11:03.000 No.

02:11:04.000 Oh, they just didn't like it.

02:11:05.000 It was like, oh, Dune's out.

02:11:06.000 Let's watch this new movie.

02:11:07.000 And then we turned it on.

02:11:08.000 And then it was like, people were ready to punch the TV screen.

02:11:13.000 Violence over the movie.

02:11:14.000 It was so bad.

02:11:15.000 And then people are like, you're wrong, it was good.

02:11:17.000 I'm like, if you like staring at nothing with literally nothing happening for 40 minutes, that's the movie for you.

02:11:24.000 Do you like the original Dune movie?

02:11:26.000 Okay.

02:11:26.000 Never watched it.

02:11:26.000 No?

02:11:27.000 Never watched it.

02:11:28.000 And then what happened was George Lucas was like, wow, this is awful.

02:11:32.000 I'm going to make it better, and he made Star Wars.

02:11:35.000 That's what happened.

02:11:36.000 He based Star Wars off of Frank Herbert's original novel, because Star Wars preceded any of the Dune movies.

02:11:43.000 Right.

02:11:44.000 Yeah, I know.

02:11:45.000 I'm kidding.

02:11:47.000 Star Wars is largely believed just to be basically Dune.

02:11:50.000 Yeah, it is.

02:11:53.000 That I didn't know.

02:11:55.000 But I think it was something like he wanted the rights, he couldn't get it, or something like that.

02:11:59.000 And so they just made a version of it.

02:11:59.000 I don't know.

02:12:02.000 You know what I love is that Star Wars doesn't actually exist.

02:12:05.000 Did you guys know that?

02:12:06.000 No.

02:12:07.000 There is no canonical Star Wars.

02:12:10.000 There's nothing.

02:12:11.000 Star Wars is...

02:12:20.000 And then they changed it in 1997 to make it a worm.

02:12:23.000 Or what happened was they changed it in Return of the Jedi.

02:12:25.000 93, yeah.

02:12:26.000 Was it 93 when they changed it?

02:12:27.000 Well, 93 is when Jedi came out.

02:12:29.000 Right, so in 93 is when Jabba in Jedi.

02:12:32.000 93 is when...

02:12:35.000 My apologies.

02:12:36.000 Right, in 1997, they digitally edited the first movie and replaced the human.

02:12:41.000 With the worm character.

02:12:42.000 And they digitally added Han Solo to walk over Jabba the Hutt, causing Jabba to go, whoa! 0.99

02:12:47.000 So dumb. 0.99

02:12:48.000 They keep changing those movies. 1.00

02:12:48.000 Ridiculous. 1.00

02:12:50.000 There is no Star Wars. 0.80

02:12:52.000 I actually wonder, how do you watch the actual original movie?

02:12:55.000 I don't think that you can actually, Yeah, I think any version you buy now is totally altered.

02:13:03.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

02:13:04.000 Fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:13:05.000 You know, Netflix was doing that, too. 1.00

02:13:07.000 Real creepy.

02:13:08.000 They were changing shows.

02:13:10.000 After the fact, people didn't realize they were watching different versions of the same show.

02:13:14.000 Oh, well.

02:13:14.000 Yep.

02:13:15.000 If you can get your hands on, like, original copies of anything, it's a good idea to get them.

02:13:20.000 And if you can get them digitized, it's even better.

02:13:22.000 In the latest Black Mirror, there's an episode where reality keeps changing.

02:13:30.000 This woman keeps saying, like, I'll just break it down for you. 1.00

02:13:33.000 A woman has the ability, using a supercomputer, to dictate what is or is not. 1.00

02:13:38.000 And so this woman keeps saying something like, I didn't drink your almond milk. 0.91

02:13:42.000 And then all of a sudden they find security footage of her actually doing it because someone can.

02:13:46.000 They made two versions of that episode because there's a chicken restaurant and it's – I forgot what the name of the chicken restaurant is.

02:13:53.000 But in one version she's like, no, I swear it's called – let's just use fake words – bat.

02:13:58.000 And they're like, no, it's called cat.

02:13:59.000 And she's like, no, it's not.

02:14:01.000 They look it up and it's – she's wrong.

02:14:03.000 They made another version where she chose the other word.

02:14:05.000 And the reason they did that is so that people who watched the show, when recounting it to each other, would recall the wrong word intentionally. 0.92

02:14:13.000 Which is fucking a weird thing to do, to be honest.

02:14:17.000 Which episode was that? 0.96

02:14:18.000 I want to get the...

02:14:22.000 Chicken Shop Black Mirror. 0.92

02:14:26.000 It's a fucked up thing to do because it doesn't actually serve anything other than to get people to argue with each other and then complain, and then I guess they Google it. 0.93

02:14:33.000 It's the episode called Bette Noir and Barney's and Bernie's was the restaurant. 0.97

02:14:39.000 And she goes, it's called Bernie's.

02:14:40.000 I'm like, no, it's Bernie's.

02:14:41.000 And then they Google it and she's wrong.

02:14:43.000 It's like, I thought it was Bernie's.

02:14:45.000 Then she goes home and her boyfriend's got the different hat, like Mandela effect.

02:14:49.000 So there's two versions of that episode right now on Netflix.

02:14:52.000 Depending on where you are, you'll get a different version.

02:14:54.000 Oh, wow.

02:14:55.000 Yep.

02:14:56.000 In one version.

02:14:57.000 She says it's Barney's, and they say it's Bernie's.

02:14:58.000 In the other version, she says it's Bernie's, and they say it's Bernie's.

02:15:00.000 Then, when you're talking with your friends, you're like, right, no, it was called Barney's the whole time.

02:15:03.000 No, it was Bernie's.

02:15:05.000 They want you to argue with your friends.

02:15:07.000 It serves nothing. 0.99

02:15:08.000 They're mind-fucking you on purpose. 0.98

02:15:09.000 Yeah, it does nothing for the show. 1.00

02:15:10.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:15:11.000 It's weird. 1.00

02:15:13.000 Alright, let's go to Callers.

02:15:14.000 We're gonna go to Callers, and we'll start with Fig Nuts. 0.90

02:15:19.000 What is up?

02:15:20.000 Fig Nuts.

02:15:26.000 Did someone say fig nuts?

02:15:28.000 Yes, sir.

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