Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Democrats LOSE IT Over SECOND Liberal Judge ARRESTED By Trump Admin | Timcast IRL

00:02:29.000 News broke this morning that a judge was arrested in Wisconsin.

00:02:33.000 This judge was aiding and abetting a criminal illegal alien who had been accused of mercilessly beating his wife.

00:02:42.000 This is not Kilmar Obrego Garcia.

00:02:43.000 This is a different story out of Wisconsin.

00:02:45.000 And just the other day, we learned about a Democrat judge.

00:02:48.000 So there's a liberal judge.

00:02:50.000 They're nonpartisan, they call it, in Wisconsin.

00:02:52.000 In New Mexico, you had a Democrat judge.

00:02:54.000 Also arrested, now being accused of tampering with evidence.

00:02:57.000 The other day when we covered this on Tim Kastirel, the news wasn't clear.

00:03:00.000 They said he was arrested, then he wasn't arrested.

00:03:02.000 Now we're learning he was arrested.

00:03:04.000 And this Wisconsin story is lighting up the internet with Democrats furious because to Democrats, they're above the law.

00:03:12.000 You're not.

00:03:13.000 J6ers aren't. 1.00

00:03:14.000 Trump isn't, but they are.

00:03:16.000 You know, we've got the complaint, the arrest, a statement from a witness.

00:03:22.000 As to what went down with this Wisconsin judge, and it is insane.

00:03:27.000 She actively obstructed, according to this document, law enforcement trying to deport an illegal immigrant, shuffled him out a back door, adjourned his proceedings, even though he was accused of beating, I believe beating his wife, or domestic violence. 0.85

00:03:40.000 I don't know if he's married.

00:03:42.000 She let him go.

00:03:43.000 They ended up catching him.

00:03:45.000 Came back and arrested her, and now Democrats are acting like this is the beginning of dictatorship.

00:03:49.000 Oh, boy.

00:03:50.000 You know I'm going to have a field day with this one.

00:03:53.000 We do have a bunch of other stories, but this, of course, is the big one, so we'll see that.

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00:06:11.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, it's Josie!

00:06:15.000 Hi, I'm Josie.

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00:06:25.000 Right on.

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00:06:27.000 Hello.

00:06:28.000 Welcome back, everyone.

00:06:29.000 Good to be here.

00:06:30.000 Let's just roll.

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00:06:32.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains of an Anti-Communist and Counter-Revolutionary.

00:06:36.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:37.000 Here's a story from Fox News, my friends.

00:06:39.000 FBI arrests Wisconsin judge alleging she obstructed the arrest of an illegal alien.

00:06:45.000 Now, we have the FBI charging document right here.

00:06:49.000 Let me just start by saying two judges isn't enough.

00:06:55.000 But I'm okay, right?

00:06:56.000 You know, I'm not, you know, I tweeted two judges and enough.

00:07:00.000 I tweeted, it has begun.

00:07:01.000 I'm a fan of the work of Cash and Dan so far.

00:07:04.000 And there are these right-leaning people who are like, oh, now they're all going to cheer for a low-level judge.

00:07:09.000 This is not the kind of justice we want.

00:07:11.000 I say, calm down, good sir.

00:07:12.000 It's been three months.

00:07:14.000 Give Cash and Dan a chance.

00:07:16.000 Bro, I do not believe that Cash Patel and Dan Bongino...

00:07:20.000 Would walk into the middle of the culture war, cold civil war battlefield, knowing that they face prison if Democrats regain power and then do nothing.

00:07:29.000 They already went after, like, what?

00:07:31.000 They got Papadopoulos.

00:07:32.000 They went after Flynn.

00:07:32.000 They put Bannon in jail, Navarro in jail.

00:07:35.000 Giuliani is facing charges.

00:07:37.000 They went for Trump's lawyers.

00:07:38.000 Yo, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino know full well that if they do not win this, they have put everything on the line.

00:07:45.000 So, it has begun.

00:07:48.000 Now, This criminal complaint is crazy.

00:07:51.000 This is a document.

00:07:54.000 United States v. 0.95

00:07:55.000 Hannah C. Dugan.

00:07:56.000 And I'll give you the simple version real quick.

00:07:59.000 Illegal immigrant in her courtroom. 0.98

00:08:00.000 ICE agents show up and they say, okay, we're going to arrest this guy.

00:08:05.000 They tell the ICE agents, no, no, just wait until the hearing's over.

00:08:08.000 Let the judge do her thing. 1.00

00:08:10.000 And then you can arrest the person.

00:08:12.000 I said, okay.

00:08:13.000 Judge, somebody whispers to the judge, yo, feds are here to arrest this guy.

00:08:16.000 She gets, she's furious.

00:08:19.000 She comes out and starts yelling at him. 0.95

00:08:20.000 They have to go to the chief judge while they're basically explaining, like, we have a right to be here.

00:08:25.000 We have a warrant.

00:08:25.000 She's like, you don't have a judicial warrant.

00:08:26.000 You got to leave.

00:08:27.000 And they're like, it's a public building.

00:08:28.000 We can be here.

00:08:29.000 She then goes into a courtroom, effectively expedites or dismisses. 0.91

00:08:33.000 I don't know if she dismissed, but she like she she convenes or I'm sorry.

00:08:38.000 She basically ends the proceedings and then tells the illegal alien subject to arrest and deportation to go out a non-public exit used for jurors. 0.94

00:08:47.000 To evade the police.

00:08:48.000 To evade law enforcement.

00:08:50.000 That's why she's been arrested. 1.00

00:08:52.000 But check this out.

00:08:53.000 We have this thread from Margo Cleveland.

00:08:56.000 She has criminal complaint unsealed in case of Wisconsin judge helping illegal.

00:08:59.000 It is jaw-dropping.

00:09:01.000 In the document, number six says, I am aware from a review of public records that on March 18th, Eduardo Flores Ruiz was charged in Milwaukee County Circuit Court.

00:09:11.000 Case number, blah, with three counts of battery domestic abuse infliction.

00:09:17.000 of physical pain or injury.

00:09:20.000 Not merely three counts of domestic battery with physical pain or injury, but he had already been deported once and illegally returned.

00:09:29.000 So ICE goes to arrest him.

00:09:31.000 Some agents notified security and explained the arrest would be court proceedings in the public area, would be after.

00:09:38.000 Others went to the court and notified the court security agent.

00:09:40.000 So this is basically what I just described.

00:09:42.000 A public defender took pictures of the agents and then went and told the judge's clerk, who told the judge.

00:09:48.000 The judge then basically tells the agents they have to leave.

00:09:52.000 We'll scroll down as I talk about this.

00:09:54.000 Courtroom deputy is a good guy.

00:09:55.000 Judge tries to rush the domestic abuser through the process while everyone is supposedly tied up talking to the chief judge.

00:10:01.000 And apparently the victim of the domestic abuse was there too.

00:10:04.000 And she's trying to save this guy from deportation.

00:10:08.000 She takes them out to the jury room and says, Second,

00:10:32.000 according to the courtroom deputy, only deputies, juries, court staff, and in-custody defendants being escorted by deputies used the back jury door.

00:10:40.000 The judge adjourned the criminal case against the illegal who was charged with three counts of domestic abuse.

00:10:45.000 And where the victim was present, state's attorney only discovered later when case was not called.

00:10:52.000 Agents then observed illegal and his attorney trying to leave the courthouse through the back way, and it took some 22 minutes for them to catch him following a foot chase.

00:11:00.000 Can you believe this?

00:11:02.000 Yes.

00:11:02.000 Yeah, bro.

00:11:03.000 I can actually believe it.

00:11:04.000 And so, I believe we have an image right here.

00:11:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to zoom in and get this nice and big for you.

00:11:12.000 That is the arrest of the judge.

00:11:13.000 And it looks like she's not wearing her judge's robe.

00:11:16.000 That's like a hoodie or something.

00:11:17.000 No, I think that's it.

00:11:18.000 Are you sure they have hoods on them?

00:11:20.000 Maybe.

00:11:21.000 I don't know, man.

00:11:23.000 But they got her.

00:11:24.000 Lock them up.

00:11:25.000 This is great news that there are actually repercussions for...

00:11:29.000 This kind of behavior.

00:11:31.000 This is something that we talked about.

00:11:33.000 It was in regard to congresspeople talking to immigrants or illegal immigrants saying you don't have to talk to police.

00:11:45.000 AOC we discussed.

00:11:46.000 Ilhan Omar we discussed.

00:11:48.000 Aiding and abetting.

00:11:50.000 This is a clear, clear violation.

00:11:53.000 And it's great that she's been arrested.

00:11:56.000 I am tempted to just put on some 80s music and sit here bottom of my head to it the whole time with various news articles saying judge arrested over and over and over again.

00:12:04.000 Let's do simple minds.

00:12:05.000 Don't you forget about me.

00:12:06.000 That's right.

00:12:07.000 That's a good one to start with.

00:12:08.000 Well, so Grabian, Tom Elliott, he had this great post where he compiled all of the statements from Democrats and media personalities saying no one's above the law over and over and over again.

00:12:23.000 So, as a matter of happenstance, we were singing that song by, was it BJ Thompson or whatever his name is?

00:12:28.000 Thomas?

00:12:28.000 I don't know.

00:12:29.000 The raindrops are falling on your head?

00:12:31.000 Raindrops keep falling on my head.

00:12:32.000 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

00:12:33.000 Yeah, we were playing that.

00:12:34.000 Is that what it's from?

00:12:34.000 Yep.

00:12:35.000 And so, we were playing that while I was listening to this video.

00:12:39.000 And so, I just figured I had to go into a premiere and edit them together.

00:12:43.000 The idea that no person is above the law is a bedrock principle of American justice.

00:12:48.000 No man is above the law, no matter what their crime is.

00:12:51.000 And I agree with you.

00:12:51.000 No man is above the law.

00:12:53.000 No person is above the law.

00:12:55.000 No one is above the law.

00:13:01.000 All right, that's enough of that.

00:13:02.000 But you get the point.

00:13:03.000 It's a good Friday.

00:13:05.000 I figure we'll party afterwards, and it's only just begun.

00:13:08.000 Hopefully it begins a lot more after this, and we get a lot more.

00:13:13.000 I think technically it wasn't last Friday, Good Friday.

00:13:15.000 It's just an even better Friday.

00:13:17.000 Yep.

00:13:17.000 This is Gooder Friday.

00:13:19.000 I would argue that many Christians would not consider today to be Gooder Friday, but a secondary, compared to Good Friday, that's probably way better than today. 0.96

00:13:27.000 Second best Friday.

00:13:28.000 Second best Friday.

00:13:29.000 I think, you know, maybe I know I'm biased.

00:13:32.000 We're all sort of biased in our living bubbles, but it's just at its face, like these people abetting.

00:13:38.000 Illegal immigration is horrific for the future of the country. 1.00

00:13:41.000 It can't be tolerated.

00:13:42.000 Not just that.

00:13:42.000 He was accused of fairly seriously beating a woman.

00:13:48.000 What really gets me about this is Amy Klobuchar had posted.

00:13:51.000 She's like, this is not normal.

00:13:53.000 Just these alarming, these pearl-clutching posts that are coming out from congressmen and it's all repeating.

00:13:57.000 She's right, though.

00:13:59.000 Amy Klobuchar is right.

00:14:00.000 That it's not normal to arrest judges.

00:14:02.000 No, it's not normal for judges to aid and abet illegal immigrants and let them get away. 0.79

00:14:06.000 Yes.

00:14:07.000 So she just has the audacity to really gaslight people who have been paying attention on this.

00:14:13.000 And she said, this undermines checks and balances.

00:14:15.000 It's like, no, the only checks and balances being undermined is the judicial branch to Congress.

00:14:20.000 This is undermining their laws.

00:14:22.000 This is undermining the naturalization process.

00:14:24.000 This is undermining the supremacy clause.

00:14:25.000 You know, there's another song that comes to mind.

00:14:27.000 It's the one where it's like, I don't care.

00:14:28.000 I love...

00:14:29.000 I love it.

00:14:29.000 You know that song?

00:14:30.000 I don't care.

00:14:31.000 I love it.

00:14:33.000 Like, the Democrats can whinge all they want, and I'm just going to say, I don't care.

00:14:37.000 I love it.

00:14:38.000 So I think, Josie, what you're saying is this judge was violating due process.

00:14:41.000 Clearly.

00:14:41.000 Well, violating the law.

00:14:43.000 That's the thing.

00:14:43.000 It's like, accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty.

00:14:45.000 And so that's what they do.

00:14:46.000 And as soon as they do that, it all makes sense of what's actually happening.

00:14:50.000 So judges, supreme and inferior, according to Article 3, they have the right to serve in times of good behavior.

00:14:57.000 Aiding and abetting and harboring fugitives is not good behavior.

00:15:01.000 That's bad behavior.

00:15:02.000 Lock them up!

00:15:03.000 Are they considered fugitives, technically?

00:15:04.000 Illegal immigrants?

00:15:05.000 This person was a fugitive.

00:15:07.000 They were wanted for arrest.

00:15:09.000 The court proceeding was adjourned, and they escaped out the back of the building.

00:15:14.000 Are people here illegally technically fugitives, or is it only if you try and get them and they run away?

00:15:19.000 They're fugitives.

00:15:20.000 And this guy had an order for expedited removal.

00:15:23.000 They do not have trials for this.

00:15:25.000 The media is gaslighting the public into thinking there's a criminal trial for every illegal immigrant.

00:15:29.000 Did you know that Barack Obama, 75% of his deportations didn't have any due process?

00:15:33.000 Is that because none was needed?

00:15:34.000 See, I gotta stop you there.

00:15:35.000 That's wrong.

00:15:36.000 That was from the ACLU.

00:15:38.000 They are lying.

00:15:39.000 Oh, I guess that's fair.

00:15:41.000 The STLU does lie.

00:15:42.000 Indeed.

00:15:42.000 Due process does not mean a criminal trial.

00:15:46.000 Well, that's what I mean.

00:15:47.000 They didn't deserve a criminal trial, so they didn't get one.

00:15:49.000 Therefore, due process was followed, even though there was no process.

00:15:53.000 Well, the process was just get out.

00:15:54.000 See, this is the gaslighting.

00:15:56.000 And I gotta stop you.

00:15:58.000 This is the gaslighting.

00:15:59.000 They say they were deported.

00:16:02.000 Under Obama, none of these guys got due process.

00:16:04.000 That's incorrect.

00:16:05.000 What process are you due?

00:16:07.000 Okay, as an illegal immigrant, you get reviewed by law enforcement.

00:16:12.000 They check your IDs.

00:16:13.000 They can check the IDs and detain any American citizen at any point.

00:16:17.000 If there's reasonable suspicion, which is incredibly easy to get, an officer can stop you and ask you questions.

00:16:23.000 They can ask for your ID.

00:16:25.000 You don't have to give it to them.

00:16:26.000 You can say, am I being detained?

00:16:27.000 And you can go.

00:16:28.000 But if they have reasonable suspicion that you're an illegal immigrant, they can escalate a little bit.

00:16:32.000 Often what happens is they find out the individual is not a citizen or suspicion grows to probable cause.

00:16:37.000 And then they say, okay, expedited removal.

00:16:39.000 That is the process that you are due as an illegal immigrant.

00:16:44.000 So what's happening now is Democrats are trying to create the idea in the minds of Americans that due process means flatly 100% criminal jury trial with the defense counsel.

00:16:56.000 That's for American citizens.

00:16:58.000 Due process is different in many different cases.

00:17:01.000 Okay, so due process can be if a judge denies your evidence.

00:17:05.000 If you're a J6-er and you get a criminal trial and a jury and legal counsel on both sides, and then you say, Your Honor, this video is exculpatory evidence proving I'm innocent, and the judge goes, You can't show it. 1.00

00:17:18.000 That's a violation of due process.

00:17:21.000 But you got a criminal trial and a hearing and all of those things.

00:17:24.000 Due process does not mean criminal trial.

00:17:26.000 So when we issue expedited removals, they never go before a judge.

00:17:31.000 An ICE agent finds a guy, they investigate, they say this person is an illegal immigrant, they file for removal, they negotiate with the home country, put them on a plane and fly them back.

00:17:41.000 End of story.

00:17:42.000 That is due process.

00:17:44.000 I found the ACLU exactly how they worded it.

00:17:47.000 The Obama administration has prioritized speed over fairness in the removal system, sacrificing individualized due process in the pursuit of record removal numbers.

00:17:57.000 This was 2014.

00:17:58.000 The deportation system that heard 75% of people through fast-track streamline removal is a system devoid of fairness and individualized process.

00:18:08.000 So that's how they were able to word it and get away with...

00:18:11.000 With pathing it off as truth.

00:18:13.000 Indeed.

00:18:15.000 Now you've got that story that we've gone over a couple times where it says Trump wants no trials for illegal immigrants, but they never got trials in the first place.

00:18:22.000 The rare circumstance where illegal immigrants get trials is if they have, like, let's say you're granted a 10-year visa for some reason, and then three years in, they tell you they're revoking it, and they cite some reason.

00:18:35.000 You can challenge that.

00:18:37.000 And then you go to court and you challenge it, then you can file an appeal.

00:18:40.000 So in the instance of Abrego Garcia, he had an order for removal, and he conceded he could be deported, but his lawyer tried using asylum and two, withholding of deportations claims, and that's how they filed after the fact.

00:18:57.000 So this went before a—so these judges are executive branch magistrates.

00:19:01.000 They're not like courts.

00:19:03.000 It's an immigration judge who just says, yeah, he can go.

00:19:07.000 And then they were like, we want asylum.

00:19:09.000 That's the game they try to play.

00:19:10.000 Democrats are trying to get asylum claims for every single one of these people.

00:19:14.000 Fake news.

00:19:16.000 Send them home.

00:19:18.000 Absolutely.

00:19:18.000 I mean, it should be obvious that he gets sent home.

00:19:23.000 But I think that these are, the fact that they've arrested, you know, two judges now, the judge and his wife and this other judge, is...

00:19:32.000 Is good for the American people in that they see that there are repercussions.

00:19:37.000 They see that the administration is not just talking about stuff.

00:19:41.000 They see that the things that Republicans have been saying for the better part of a decade, they see that there's actual movement on this stuff.

00:19:49.000 I don't do predictions very often, but I am of the opinion that this will probably have a positive effect on the administration's overall You know, how people look at the industry.

00:20:02.000 Well, the risk is, with them striking at this one judge...

00:20:09.000 Other Democrats are going to try and go underground.

00:20:11.000 They're not going to stop their work.

00:20:12.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:20:12.000 They're going to entrench.

00:20:14.000 It's not that you don't do it.

00:20:16.000 It's that you have to be prepared that they're going to try and hide now.

00:20:17.000 Also, they're going to try and liken it to the way that the Nazis people were hiding Jews in their houses, like Anne Frank, and the Nazis were going door-to-door searching for them.

00:20:26.000 They're going to make it seem like that, even though these people are illegally immigrating to this country and need to be removed, whereas the Jewish people were citizens of the German country.

00:20:34.000 Let's jump to this next story real quick from Axios.

00:20:37.000 Congress erupts over FBI arrest of Wisconsin judge and blah, blah, blah.

00:20:43.000 I don't really care.

00:20:44.000 The next story is MAGA cheers Wisconsin judge's arrest.

00:20:47.000 Well, because she's a criminal being arrested. 1.00

00:20:50.000 So this is the, here's Rick Wilson saying, oh, I says on.

00:20:55.000 So we're, I think it's a typo.

00:20:56.000 So we're arresting judges now.

00:20:58.000 Good to know.

00:20:58.000 Hey, bro, y 'all arrested lawyers first.

00:21:01.000 I mean, okay, I'm not gonna, here's Amy Klobuchar.

00:21:04.000 This is not normal.

00:21:05.000 The administration's arrest of a sitting judge in Wisconsin is a drastic move that threatens the rule of law.

00:21:09.000 While we don't have all the details, it's a grave step and undermines our system of checks and balances.

00:21:13.000 Maybe y 'all should not have arrested the frontrunner for the presidency and his lawyers and his associates.

00:21:19.000 And his valet.

00:21:20.000 And his valet.

00:21:22.000 Wow.

00:21:23.000 You'd think that that might occur to them.

00:21:25.000 Didn't they arrest a janitor?

00:21:26.000 They arrested everybody they could get their hands on.

00:21:29.000 Here's Tina Smith. 0.99

00:21:30.000 Understand what this is.

00:21:32.000 If Kash Patel and Donald Trump don't like a judge, they think they can arrest them.

00:21:36.000 This is stunning.

00:21:36.000 We must stand up to this blatant power grab.

00:21:39.000 Republicans, how is that a red line for you?

00:21:42.000 I will not be swayed by psychopathic evil narcissists who have been gutting and burning this country to the ground because now we have actual accountability.

00:21:53.000 But you know what the important thing is?

00:21:56.000 The important thing to understand, I should say, There is no off-ramp.

00:22:01.000 Democrats literally set fire to the Constitution.

00:22:04.000 Well, I should say figuratively, is how I was using the word literally, set fire to the Constitution to steal power in this country and lost.

00:22:11.000 And we have to bring about accountability to these people or we are doomed.

00:22:17.000 But you know what?

00:22:18.000 It doesn't matter because Democrats are going to say, no matter what you do, you're Hitler. 1.00

00:22:23.000 And stupid people are going to believe it. 1.00

00:22:26.000 So welcome to the highway with no off-ramps. 1.00

00:22:29.000 All we can do is pedal to the metal, baby.

00:22:31.000 The off-ramp thing is interesting because it feels like a chrysalis.

00:22:34.000 Like we're in the cocoon emerging now into this new creature as the United States.

00:22:39.000 And I don't know, Josie, you're basically a constitutional expert.

00:22:42.000 Do you think that this metamorphosis can sustain?

00:22:46.000 Well, what I'm worried about is the way that people are interpreting the arrest of judges, because the talking point is he's arresting judges now, you know, because they put him off as being a tyrant.

00:22:57.000 So now they have to prove that he's a tyrant.

00:22:59.000 So just talking to the normal people saying he's arresting judges now.

00:23:02.000 Who do they hear about judges in Trump?

00:23:05.000 They're hearing about the federal judges who are pushing back and impeding on his executive power, essentially.

00:23:10.000 So they're thinking they're not thinking that it's judges who are harboring criminals, because that sounds like.

00:23:16.000 That's crazy.

00:23:17.000 That's Alex Jones level crazy to them.

00:23:19.000 Like, no, there's no judges harboring criminal aliens.

00:23:22.000 That's not happening.

00:23:23.000 So they're assuming that the judges that are being arrested are the ones who are pushing back against Trump.

00:23:29.000 Those are the ones.

00:23:30.000 It's the federal judges who are pushing back against Trump and he's throwing them in jail.

00:23:33.000 They don't know that they're aiding and abetting because this is not the stuff being reported.

00:23:36.000 No, but they're right.

00:23:37.000 This judge was pushing back against Trump, trying to create this world that is lawless that Democrats want to live in.

00:23:43.000 So let's put it this way.

00:23:45.000 Shout out to Michael Malice because he said recently, I love how all these Republicans become anarchists the moment, you know, like Trump should defy the courts because, right, whoever can enforce the law has the power to do so.

00:23:57.000 There are a bunch of laws on the books that we never enforce.

00:24:02.000 Democrats, in their world, we do not enforce deportations.

00:24:07.000 So when you got that law in Florida that says women can't skydive on Sunday, I think that's not really true, but that's the idea. 1.00

00:24:14.000 We look at that like, well, that's stupid. 0.99

00:24:15.000 Women can skydive whenever they want. 1.00

00:24:17.000 So we don't enforce that.

00:24:18.000 No cop's going to arrest a woman for skydiving. 0.98

00:24:20.000 Democrats are going, yeah, that's ridiculous. 0.95

00:24:21.000 We're not going to arrest a guy because he's not registered and not a citizen. 0.96

00:24:24.000 He lives here.

00:24:25.000 He's a Maryland man.

00:24:27.000 So when Trump says we're going to arrest him, to them, imagine a cop arresting a woman for skydiving on a Sunday, and that's how they view what Trump is doing.

00:24:34.000 So that judge is doing the legal thing by letting that illegal immigrant escape because we don't enforce those laws. 1.00

00:24:43.000 This is what I'm talking about when I say there's a moral bifurcation in this country, and there is no way to remedy this, and it's a collision course.

00:24:51.000 So, how about we try the time travel test once again?

00:24:55.000 So I can rub this in the faces of the naysayers over and over and over again.

00:24:59.000 Go back in time 10 years and describe everything we've seen so far.

00:25:04.000 Well, what's going to happen is Trump's going to get elected president.

00:25:06.000 They're going to accuse him of being a Soviet spy.

00:25:07.000 No, not a Russian spy, a Soviet spy on MSNBC.

00:25:10.000 They'll say he's been working for the Soviets since the 80s.

00:25:11.000 Then they're going to impeach him.

00:25:13.000 They're going to imprison one of his campaign manager.

00:25:17.000 They're going to then arrest several of his lower staff, accuse his national security advisor of lying to the FBI to try and put him in jail.

00:25:25.000 They will arrest Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro.

00:25:33.000 The worst riots we've seen in 50 years.

00:25:35.000 A thousand people are going to storm into the Capitol and disrupt the electoral vote count.

00:25:39.000 And now we get to, oh, also, they're going to arrest Trump's lawyer.

00:25:43.000 They're going to arrest Trump himself.

00:25:45.000 They're going to fabricate new laws specifically to go after Donald Trump, notably on the E. Jean Carroll case.

00:25:51.000 They made a new law in New York just so she could sue him. 0.97

00:25:53.000 They will falsely accuse him of 34 felonies, which don't exist and have no underlying crime.

00:25:58.000 They'll falsely accuse him of civil fraud.

00:26:00.000 And then Trump's going to win anyway.

00:26:02.000 And his FBI director will start.

00:26:04.000 That's now.

00:26:06.000 That's the white pill.

00:26:07.000 If you gave me the time travel test 10 years ago, then he got elected a second time.

00:26:10.000 Even despite all that stuff, I'd be like, we have some power as American citizens.

00:26:14.000 No, you'd say you're a psychopath and none of that is possible.

00:26:17.000 Not me.

00:26:18.000 I was into it, but other people mostly.

00:26:20.000 Okay, accepted.

00:26:21.000 Ian would be like, yeah.

00:26:23.000 Machine elves would come too. 0.97

00:26:24.000 Because they kept saying the fall of the American empire is imminent.

00:26:26.000 This is just the way it manifested.

00:26:28.000 Ultimately, my point is...

00:26:29.000 More of an alteration than a fall.

00:26:30.000 Every time we do this, imagine going back in time and telling people what happened today.

00:26:34.000 Imagine going back 10 years and saying, oh yeah, when Trump wins his second term, a non-consecutive term, by the way, after they accuse him of being a Russian spy for 10 years, his new FBI is going to start arresting Democrat and liberal judges for aiding and abetting terrorist organizations and criminal cartels and narco gangs,

00:26:51.000 illegal immigrants.

00:26:52.000 People are going to be like, what? 0.95

00:26:53.000 That's insane.

00:26:54.000 That'll never happen.

00:26:54.000 You call this like a moral dilemma.

00:26:56.000 that's what I feel like this is because it's so much like the Nazi Germany, uh, thing with the Jews, the way they were ex like, you know, well, the way they were treating these people is saying,

00:27:07.000 The play is,

00:27:24.000 if they defeat Donald Trump, they will have gaslit America and created a new history.

00:27:31.000 You have undocumented Americans and you have documented Americans.

00:27:38.000 What they're trying to do now is Hitlerize Trump so that if Trump is defeated and crushed, they're going to say, never again will we allow our citizens, our undocumented citizens, to be oppressed and rounded up like this.

00:27:55.000 This is how their plan is to create.

00:27:59.000 A system by which in the United States you have undocumented and documented citizens.

00:28:04.000 They've already tried using that terminology.

00:28:06.000 They pulled back a little bit.

00:28:07.000 I believe Hassan Piker on his stream was referring to them as undocumented citizens.

00:28:12.000 That is too confusing.

00:28:12.000 They tried this.

00:28:14.000 So the goal is we will lie about whatever Trump does.

00:28:19.000 We will make it seem like what he is doing is rounding up the Jews. 0.98

00:28:23.000 And then we will argue to all Americans who think it's bad, we can never do this again.

00:28:28.000 Which means no more deportations ever.

00:28:31.000 Alex Jones has obviously Infowars, and I've been critical of the name Infowars, even like Culture War.

00:28:37.000 I'm like, why manifest war?

00:28:39.000 But the reality is this information manipulation is a form of psychological warfare.

00:28:45.000 And people have been using these, what do you want to call it, corporate media, MSNBC, these high-powered fire hoses of data transfer to brainwash people since the inception of the technology, but especially since the advance of the Internet.

00:28:59.000 And now there's all these other people.

00:29:00.000 Delivering knowledge as well.

00:29:02.000 So, I mean, it is a battle, I guess you could say, of the mind.

00:29:06.000 Would you say it's information warfare?

00:29:09.000 I think so.

00:29:10.000 Like, I don't want to soften warfare.

00:29:11.000 I don't want to soften the term, but it's definitely like information.

00:29:15.000 Information civil conflict?

00:29:16.000 Yeah, what?

00:29:18.000 When it comes to citizens, how they keep saying citizens, written in the amendments.

00:29:23.000 The 16th, 19th, 24th, and 26th.

00:29:25.000 It says it has the citizens' right to vote in these ways.

00:29:29.000 Those are the voting amendments.

00:29:30.000 So if you want to think of who was ever supposed to vote, it was always meant to be citizens as soon as they involved the federal government.

00:29:37.000 What was the last part?

00:29:38.000 What did you say?

00:29:38.000 As soon as they involved the federal government in voting, because it was always a state's right, it became citizens.

00:29:43.000 So each of the four voting amendments say it is the right of the citizens to a citizen who's a woman, a citizen who's a freed slave, a citizen, citizen.

00:29:53.000 Yeah, I mean, and that points to the fact that Democrats have been trying to get citizens so citizens can vote.

00:30:01.000 So these are just undocumented citizens.

00:30:03.000 They can still vote.

00:30:04.000 Which is still just, I mean, it's just word games to them.

00:30:07.000 But if they can get the American people to kind of just accept that.

00:30:10.000 It becomes truth.

00:30:10.000 Yeah, accept that as truth that that would, you know, that will help them to allow.

00:30:17.000 The actual non-citizens to vote, which is something that we discussed around the stable year multiple times.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, without cultural cohesion or belief in it, they won't support the law.

00:30:27.000 If people really believe they're citizens, they won't step up to have them.

00:30:31.000 Let me help you out, Ian.

00:30:33.000 First, generational warfare.

00:30:35.000 Line and column tactics, muskets, formal battlefields.

00:30:39.000 Second generation warfare is firepower, mass artillery and trenches.

00:30:44.000 Industrialization.

00:30:45.000 Third-generation warfare is maneuver, blitzkrieg, strategic attack points.

00:30:51.000 So this is more like World War II.

00:30:53.000 Fourth-generational warfare, decentralized non-state actors, psychological and information warfare.

00:30:59.000 Blurring the lines between civilians and combatants, and finally now, today, fifth-generational warfare, information, cyber, psychological, and perception manipulation.

00:31:09.000 There are no clear battlefields, and wars are fought in mines and online more than on land.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, you get someone to destroy themselves.

00:31:16.000 Influence operations, AI warfare attacks, and cyber attacks.

00:31:20.000 Man, they always say the modern war, you don't want it because you never know how it's going to be.

00:31:25.000 Like, World War I, they didn't realize there were going to be machine gun nests, and that's where we're at, staring down this AI manipulation right now.

00:31:32.000 Isn't it fascinating how wrong?

00:31:33.000 I think it was Einstein, right?

00:31:35.000 Who said, I know for not which weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

00:31:42.000 Boy, was he wrong!

00:31:44.000 Because likely World War III is going to be subterfuge, cyber attacks, and perception manipulation.

00:31:51.000 No, it's not going to be kinetic.

00:31:52.000 Yeah, that's the point.

00:31:55.000 The consequences and the cost of a global war, of all-out global war, like a World War I or II was, it's too high.

00:32:05.000 And that's why information warfare is what nation-states have defaulted to.

00:32:11.000 Espionage and proxy wars and stuff like that.

00:32:14.000 But I don't think it's a cost issue.

00:32:17.000 I think it's an effectiveness issue.

00:32:19.000 Cost is a component of that, but it's basically...

00:32:22.000 If you could go to Genghis Khan and say, I will conquer all of this land towards Eastern Europe and to Asia, and you will never lift a sword or a bow or a spear, do you want that?

00:32:37.000 They would say yes.

00:32:38.000 Yeah, he preferred that.

00:32:39.000 If people would surrender, he'd let them live.

00:32:42.000 But with nuclear war, you're ruining the land.

00:32:47.000 The point is, that's not going to happen.

00:32:49.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:32:50.000 It doesn't happen.

00:32:53.000 And so they default to something else.

00:32:56.000 No, it's not going to happen because it's not as effective as manipulating the entire population into bowing before you.

00:33:01.000 Nuking a country makes that country hate you forever. 0.99

00:33:07.000 Well, maybe not forever.

00:33:08.000 I mean, look at Japan.

00:33:09.000 But we did kind of invade and take over Japan.

00:33:12.000 So instead of nuking a country, destroying land, it is cheaper, faster, and easier to take over their minds through manipulation.

00:33:20.000 Oh, especially with decentralized tech.

00:33:21.000 It could happen overnight.

00:33:23.000 Internet video can manipulate a hundred million people.

00:33:25.000 I still think that the fact that you spoil the land is a big part of the reason why none of the global...

00:33:36.000 Superpowers ever actually got into direct conflict.

00:33:38.000 There was proxy wars and stuff like that because those were a better option and now that...

00:33:43.000 Proxy wars aren't really, well, there are some proxy wars, but now that information flows so freely, because before the internet, information flow wasn't so that you could use information warfare the way that we did.

00:33:57.000 So you had, after the end of World War II, until basically until 2000, you know, say 2000, just for, you know, when most people in the developed world had computers in their houses.

00:34:11.000 You know, you didn't have the ability to really influence minds over the internet or influence minds with pop propaganda.

00:34:17.000 The United States was fairly isolated.

00:34:19.000 It used to be militaries that wanted to influence...

00:34:23.000 People or populations, they had to either fly over and drop leaflets or they had to have people on the ground printing newspapers and producing television shows or whatever, having some way to spread that propaganda.

00:34:38.000 Now that the internet is in everyone's home and people can go wherever they want, that makes it possible to actually transmit information.

00:34:44.000 So the question is, what is the most effective means of warfare and nukes ain't it?

00:34:49.000 Not anymore, yeah.

00:34:50.000 So it's not an issue of we're going to ruin land.

00:34:52.000 No, if we truly wanted to wipe out an enemy, we'd march to the sea.

00:34:56.000 We'd go scorched earth.

00:34:58.000 The issue is it's substantially cheaper to hire a bunch of Turkish dudes with 50 phones each to spam blast a nation and have them turn their country over to you in a couple years. 1.00

00:35:08.000 That's what concerns me about the industry in China, the shipping, the American industry to China over the last 20 or 30 years, because I think this psychological war has been what's been going on since the dawn of time, but it's really ramped up since the age of the Internet.

00:35:19.000 And to lose that production capacity, like there's this game, Axis and Allies, wonderful World War II, board game, better than Risk.

00:35:26.000 It's not about money.

00:35:28.000 None of the countries ever buy stuff with money.

00:35:29.000 You buy it with production power.

00:35:31.000 If you have factories, you can build troops.

00:35:33.000 You can build, you know, armor, tanks, planes.

00:35:36.000 If you don't have factories, you can't.

00:35:38.000 And that's it.

00:35:38.000 It's called GDP.

00:35:39.000 So without your productive capacity, you're impotent on the global military stage.

00:35:44.000 We need to get those factories back here or build new ones. 0.99

00:35:47.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:35:48.000 We have this clip from Fox News of Pam Bondi.

00:35:51.000 It turns out that the New Mexico Democrat judge did not just harbor this guy, but apparently is being accused of giving him a rifle.

00:36:00.000 And let's just say doing more than harboring, trying to cover up and protect him.

00:36:05.000 Listen to this.

00:36:06.000 The associations with this violent Venezuelan gang, Trende Aragua, and this person that they harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing, we're told, tattoos.

00:36:19.000 There was evidence through voice messages and text messages of his association to TDA.

00:36:25.000 So what charges will Cano and his wife face, if any?

00:36:30.000 So Judge Cano, soon to be former Judge Cano, his charges were just unsealed.

00:36:37.000 He's charged with obstruction.

00:36:38.000 He is charged.

00:36:40.000 He admitted post-Miranda.

00:36:41.000 He took one of the TDA members' cell phones himself, took it, beat it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked the pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it to protect it.

00:36:53.000 The wife also is charged with destroying evidence.

00:36:57.000 Sandra, not only that, this...

00:36:59.000 He was a TDA member and he had on a necklace that said kill, something about death.

00:37:04.000 He had tattoos all over him.

00:37:06.000 He also had on his cell phone pictures of two decapitated victims.

00:37:13.000 Wow.

00:37:14.000 Victims.

00:37:14.000 Decapitated, gruesome photos.

00:37:16.000 And he was sending them out and whoever he was sending them to was sending back saying, hey, you need to be careful.

00:37:22.000 You shouldn't be sending these.

00:37:23.000 You shouldn't be texting these photos out.

00:37:26.000 Not only that, the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that belonged to their daughter.

00:37:31.000 That's what they're charged with.

00:37:33.000 HE'S NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT.

00:37:34.000 I'm going to stop there and say I'm pretty sure they didn't give him an assault rifle.

00:37:39.000 it was probably that it can air 15. Come on, Pam. 1.00

00:37:41.000 In the criminal report affidavit, he goes to a shooting range with these assault rifles, with a suppressor, with other known TDs.

00:37:49.000 Okay, actually, maybe then.

00:37:51.000 is the last person that we want in our country, nor will we ever tolerate a judge or anyone else harboring them.

00:37:58.000 Well, if it was a suppressor as well, maybe it actually was a legit assault rifle.

00:38:02.000 It's just a vague term, assault.

00:38:04.000 It could be a fully automatic...

00:38:06.000 It specifically refers to select fire.

00:38:07.000 What is it?

00:38:09.000 Semi-auto, burst, and full auto?

00:38:11.000 Sure, that makes sense if you're actually going to assault a target.

00:38:13.000 Typically when people are saying that, well, that's what it means.

00:38:15.000 Typically when people say assault rifle like Democrats, it means literally nothing.

00:38:18.000 It means scary-looking gun.

00:38:20.000 How did this TDA member get into the house?

00:38:24.000 How did this even come about where a judge would be like, yeah, you can come live in my house with my children? 0.96

00:38:29.000 Judge is probably TDA too.

00:38:32.000 That's a great question, Joe.

00:38:33.000 I have no idea.

00:38:34.000 Well, apparently he was dating his daughter.

00:38:36.000 Oh.

00:38:37.000 But the point, largely in my opinion, is, look, after a couple decades of criminal gangs, narco gangs coming into this country, they're going to get positions of power. 0.96

00:38:47.000 They seek them out.

00:38:48.000 They want the authority.

00:38:50.000 And we are seeing it now.

00:38:51.000 Like this Democrat, this liberal, she's not a Democrat, liberal judge in Wisconsin.

00:38:55.000 I wouldn't be surprised if she's paid off or ending the take.

00:38:58.000 That she's doing this, not because she's like, I think it's wrong that they're arresting illegal immigrants, but she's like, uh-oh, there's my paycheck.

00:39:05.000 Quick, get out of here. 1.00

00:39:06.000 Well, that's a whole other level of betrayal that people are getting bribed to facilitate it.

00:39:11.000 And we know that people got bribed or at least got paid NGOs to run people up through Central America from the Darien Gap into the United States, that there were actual organizations and companies facilitating it.

00:39:22.000 I wouldn't be surprised if that goes beyond the border.

00:39:25.000 But, you know.

00:39:27.000 What do you mean beyond the border?

00:39:29.000 I don't think those NGOs just stop at the border of the United States and just say, okay, we're done.

00:39:34.000 I have a feeling that they're still interacting with people in the United States.

00:39:37.000 Of course they are.

00:39:38.000 James O 'Keefe exposed a lot of these people.

00:39:40.000 So there's a judicial immunity and it's a common law practice, which essentially means that the judges made it up for themselves.

00:39:46.000 And that only goes to civil offenses, but it almost feels like they're trying to extend it to criminal offenses at this point.

00:39:54.000 But that's not constitutional.

00:39:59.000 So what's next?

00:40:00.000 Well, I keep thinking about how glad I am.

00:40:02.000 More judges, hopefully.

00:40:03.000 Well, the only way...

00:40:04.000 I mean, what are Democrats going to do to respond to this?

00:40:07.000 Are they routed and the deep state just...

00:40:09.000 I would say, I just watched your interview with Sebastian Gorka, which people should watch, and he said no.

00:40:14.000 Give it 18 months, then we'll talk.

00:40:16.000 Yeah.

00:40:17.000 He said, what did he say effectively?

00:40:19.000 That they're still entrenched and powerful.

00:40:21.000 We haven't won yet.

00:40:23.000 Yeah, he was speaking up for, like, why you're not hearing a lot from Kash Patel or Dan Bongino.

00:40:28.000 I mean, they're basically the head of the secret police, the FBI.

00:40:32.000 Hopefully they're doing justice, you know, and they're not going to be telling you everything they're doing.

00:40:35.000 It's not the secret police.

00:40:37.000 The deep state is secret police.

00:40:38.000 It's also a secret police force, unfortunately, but the FBI is supposed to be the government's secret police.

00:40:42.000 They're a regular police force.

00:40:44.000 A secret police force would be like...

00:40:48.000 They just wrap you up and then you're never heard from again.

00:40:51.000 Well, that's what they were saying when they were taking people, they were calling it disappearing them.

00:40:56.000 Yeah, well, that's Democrats just being histrionic.

00:40:59.000 But look, again, these people exist.

00:41:03.000 There are many of them.

00:41:04.000 And they are claiming that Donald Trump is doing Hitler things.

00:41:08.000 Expect.

00:41:08.000 Some kind of escalation.

00:41:10.000 So I keep seeing...

00:41:11.000 I'm really glad Pete Hegseth is so vocal and transparent with what they're doing with the DOD.

00:41:15.000 I follow him on Twitter, and you should, too, if you're interested.

00:41:17.000 He comes on, he makes videos two, three times a day sometimes about...

00:41:21.000 Changes.

00:41:21.000 And Pam Bondi, super transparent.

00:41:23.000 But then I'm like, okay, think about the Nazi metaphor. 0.51

00:41:26.000 So is Joseph Goebbels.

00:41:28.000 They weren't transparent.

00:41:29.000 They were just vocal.

00:41:30.000 Why are you associating the current administration with a murderous regime?

00:41:36.000 What is it about our current administration that resembles the Nazis to you?

00:41:43.000 Two questions you asked.

00:41:44.000 The first one is because art of war.

00:41:46.000 Understand your enemy.

00:41:47.000 Understand the way that these...

00:41:48.000 Who is your enemy?

00:41:49.000 Well, no one really, but the liberal media, whatever you want to call this media that's going to frame these people as Nazis, think the way they think if you want to understand how to circumvent and defeat the process.

00:41:59.000 Okay, good point.

00:42:00.000 Pause real quick.

00:42:01.000 These people don't actually think Trump is Hitler.

00:42:04.000 They're lying.

00:42:06.000 The people that are saying it, I think they are lying, but the people hearing it and believing it, okay, understand the way they're going to be manipulated.

00:42:12.000 And they're not the strategists, and they're not the resource providers.

00:42:15.000 So if you're actually talking about how do you understand the mentality of the deep state, their mentality is much more like we can rally violent terror attacks by claiming Trump is like Hitler.

00:42:26.000 Not to actually say Trump is like Hitler.

00:42:28.000 Those people would feel justified in whatever action they had to do to stop Hitler. 0.91

00:42:32.000 The only reason I bring that up is I think it's unproductive for people to associate...

00:42:40.000 At least people with a realistic understanding of reality to associate the current administration with the Nazis because they're nothing alike at all.

00:42:49.000 But you said two points.

00:42:51.000 What was your other point?

00:42:52.000 The second question.

00:42:53.000 You had two questions.

00:42:54.000 The first was, why do I...

00:42:55.000 He said, why are you likening the current administration to the Nazis?

00:42:59.000 I think because it's a populist movement with a strong...

00:43:03.000 Trump's basically a strong man as a president.

00:43:06.000 So are the communists.

00:43:08.000 Yeah, it's basically like we're in a sort of cultural revolution, whether we want to be or not, globally and domestically.

00:43:16.000 And with the mass immigration problem of trying to find people and get them out of the country, the Nazis were going through that with the Jewish population. 0.81

00:43:23.000 The Nazis literally went into other countries to get Jews.

00:43:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:30.000 There's not...

00:43:30.000 Like, getting illegal immigrants out of the United States has no relation to the way that...

00:43:36.000 I want you to know, I do not think this is like a Nazi administration at all.

00:43:39.000 I don't find it even remotely national or socialist in any...

00:43:42.000 It's a capitalist, like, global, like, organized movement.

00:43:46.000 It's not...

00:43:47.000 It's well beyond...

00:43:47.000 But people will make this claim.

00:43:50.000 Thanks, man.

00:43:51.000 Protein smoothie?

00:43:52.000 Why, can you see that I'm shaking?

00:43:54.000 No, I was gonna do that...

00:43:56.000 You must be hungry thing from like the Snickers commercial.

00:43:59.000 Like you're sitting here saying Trump's like Hitler and I'm like, you need to eat, bro.

00:44:02.000 He's not like Hitler.

00:44:03.000 People have claimed he's like Hitler and the masses are going to...

00:44:06.000 You're not yourself.

00:44:07.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:44:08.000 I don't...

00:44:08.000 I kind of want to buy a bunch of Snickers bars and then whenever some lib goes off and goes crazy accusing Trump of being Hitler, just like throw a Snickers at him.

00:44:14.000 You must be hangry.

00:44:17.000 It's the effectiveness of that advertisement.

00:44:19.000 Just chicken nuggets and start throwing nuggets at him. 1.00

00:44:22.000 Like dino nuggies. 1.00

00:44:24.000 I brought it up because I was so glad that Hegseth and Pambani are vocal and transparent because we didn't have that with Lloyd Austin in the last administration at all.

00:44:32.000 But then I was like, well...

00:44:34.000 Being public isn't necessarily in and of itself good, because I thought about Goebbels, and I was like, they were very vocal in public. 0.98

00:44:40.000 They were just liars and manipulators.

00:44:41.000 These guys seem to be honest, at least. 0.99

00:44:43.000 They seem to be.

00:44:45.000 I mean, Cash Patel, I would say, is one of my best friends.

00:44:47.000 I've only hung out with him for four hours, but I love the guy.

00:44:51.000 He's an excellent human being.

00:44:53.000 Cash is watching right now, and he's like, I'm not best friends with that guy.

00:44:55.000 I know, not at all, but he's the kind of guy I could easily go fishing with.

00:45:00.000 Bro, he plays hockey in D.C. like...

00:45:02.000 Is he on the same team as Richie McGinnis?

00:45:04.000 I wouldn't surprise me.

00:45:06.000 Who was it here that was here the other day?

00:45:07.000 It was Richie McGinnis.

00:45:08.000 I think they're on the hockey team together.

00:45:11.000 That's awesome.

00:45:12.000 I'd love to get Dan or Cash on the show, but as their head of law enforcement, you can't really be like, hey, would you want to come on and expose all the operations you're engaged in because we know you're doing...

00:45:21.000 They can't do it.

00:45:22.000 And now we're in this position where we're not on the inside, but inside adjacent to a global...

00:45:29.000 The revolutionary force of the world right now, like the American government, and we actually know people that are running it.

00:45:36.000 That revolutionary force of the world?

00:45:38.000 Yeah.

00:45:39.000 The American government is a revolution.

00:45:41.000 The United States is a revolution.

00:45:43.000 Tim told me that one time five years ago, and it stuck with me.

00:45:46.000 It is.

00:45:46.000 That's what we are, is a constant revolution.

00:45:49.000 We had kings, and the kings were better people.

00:45:54.000 And then the Americans were like, nah, that's whack. 0.54

00:45:57.000 Let's not do that.

00:45:58.000 And we wrote it into our Constitution that we can constantly revolve our system of governance through amendments.

00:46:03.000 New people come in, the revolving door come in, come out.

00:46:06.000 You know, I do think the Founding Fathers probably realized this much later on, having earned the experience of a union, that they created a great system, but there's no such thing as a perfect system.

00:46:20.000 So how could they have predicted a mechanism by which you would stop a judicial coup?

00:46:25.000 What happens when judges, to a great degree, are aligned ideologically and are seeking to undermine or overthrow the government?

00:46:35.000 Josie, what do you...

00:46:36.000 So in the Constitution, the most that can happen is impeachment, obviously, but that was hard to do before we were ideologically captured.

00:46:43.000 It was very hard to do.

00:46:45.000 So what Congress has the power to do is to regulate...

00:46:49.000 Their jurisdictions of all the judges, they're able to shrink where they are, and that can affect who comes to them and what they're able to rule over and stuff, and that's it.

00:47:01.000 That's as far as they can go.

00:47:03.000 It would have to be, I mean, it would have to be the Chief Justice to come out and get his people in order, because we've never seen anything like this.

00:47:15.000 The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?

00:47:16.000 How would he get his people in order?

00:47:18.000 I don't know.

00:47:19.000 So these people like a Wisconsin district judge that's like, Trump can't do that thing?

00:47:26.000 All that they can do is just keep ignoring it.

00:47:29.000 Because what will happen?

00:47:30.000 Okay, you're going to ignore, you're going to ignore.

00:47:31.000 Nope, now you're in contempt.

00:47:32.000 Now we have to arrest you.

00:47:33.000 Who are they going to send to arrest him?

00:47:34.000 His own police?

00:47:35.000 That's not going to happen.

00:47:37.000 So, you know, we're in.

00:47:41.000 I don't like using it.

00:47:42.000 This is kind of a constitutional crisis.

00:47:46.000 It's just because we've never been here before.

00:47:48.000 We've never seen anything like this.

00:47:50.000 So when it comes to these federal injunctions, we have one every few years, two, three.

00:47:58.000 We've had 30 in the first month.

00:48:00.000 This is not something that happens.

00:48:02.000 So I have no idea how to solve it.

00:48:05.000 We sort of pointed out a couple weeks ago, maybe last week, that a lot of it seems to have to do with the speed of data transfer now with Internet.

00:48:13.000 As soon as Trump makes a move, everyone in the country hears about it within five minutes.

00:48:18.000 So judges are on the phone.

00:48:19.000 They're filing paperwork within eight minutes.

00:48:21.000 And the Constitution wasn't ready for the Internet.

00:48:23.000 They can find out who is filing all these injunctions, and if it's an NGO or something, they can try to shut that down.

00:48:28.000 You know what's pretty wild is I just interviewed Secretary Duffy, Kristi Noem, and Sebastian Gorka.

00:48:36.000 And Secretary Noem, of course, is running DHS.

00:48:39.000 And I was thinking to myself, like, wow.

00:48:41.000 20 years ago, what would I have thought if someone said, you will be interviewing the head of DHS and you will agree with them?

00:48:49.000 Right?

00:48:50.000 That's kind of a crazy thing.

00:48:51.000 You're full of it.

00:48:52.000 No, I don't know.

00:48:53.000 I'd be like, so we won?

00:48:56.000 Because that's how I feel.

00:48:57.000 You've got a lot of these people who are adversarial journalists who are just like, you know, when we had Tehran, why are you defending them?

00:49:03.000 And it's like, I'm not defending Peg Seth.

00:49:07.000 I'm challenging your presumption that SignalGate matters.

00:49:11.000 To the average person.

00:49:12.000 It does not.

00:49:14.000 It matters to politicos who are liberal.

00:49:16.000 But you go to a regular working class guy and say, do you care that Hegseth had a journalist in a chat talking about the time that they were going to do some strikes?

00:49:26.000 They'd be like, I don't know, I guess.

00:49:30.000 Or if I said, Trump's tariffs have affected your 401k, yes or no?

00:49:33.000 They'd say, yeah, it did.

00:49:34.000 I'm not happy about it.

00:49:35.000 Ah, okay, so what do people really care about?

00:49:37.000 Certainly it's not that.

00:49:37.000 You gotta keep in mind that Hegseth didn't leak that stuff.

00:49:40.000 Other people are seemingly trying to take that guy down because he's doing such an effective job and working.

00:49:45.000 Oh, it's getting wild.

00:49:46.000 He doesn't want to go to war with Iran.

00:49:47.000 Yeah.

00:49:48.000 That's really what it comes down to.

00:49:49.000 And I think Tulsi Gabbard, too, advised Trump, do not do this.

00:49:53.000 Israel wanted a joint strike, and Trump was like, what do we do?

00:49:58.000 Tulsi Gabbard, and I think Hegseth, too, I'm not entirely sure, were like, no.

00:50:02.000 Yeah.

00:50:03.000 Laura Loomer's been reporting on that a lot that she thinks that there's a big takedown effort of Hegseth at the moment.

00:50:09.000 Well, there was.

00:50:10.000 He was the hardest one to get through confirmation.

00:50:13.000 Was he the 50-50 one?

00:50:14.000 Yeah, he was the hardest one to get through it.

00:50:17.000 They're like, this is the measure for everybody else.

00:50:21.000 If we can get him through, we can get everybody through.

00:50:22.000 J.D. Vance had to run on over to the Capitol.

00:50:27.000 And then do a tiebreaker.

00:50:28.000 Yeah.

00:50:30.000 Oh, man.

00:50:32.000 He's got goosebumps, bro.

00:50:33.000 I don't know.

00:50:33.000 Sorry, what are you saying?

00:50:34.000 You okay?

00:50:35.000 It's electrifying to be part of this.

00:50:38.000 Okay.

00:50:40.000 Look, I mean, at the end of the day...

00:50:43.000 Real quick, sorry, sorry.

00:50:44.000 Ian, did you ever think in your time you would have actually sat next to a guy who would go on to become the head of the FBI?

00:50:50.000 No.

00:50:51.000 Like, here you are hanging out, talking with Cash Patel, he's been on the show, and now he runs the FBI.

00:50:56.000 I used to say when I was a kid, I'll be president one day, and then I learned what that actually meant, and I was like, I'm not going to do that.

00:51:01.000 And now the circle's coming back around where it's like, yo, if people ask me to hold the position, I'll hold the position.

00:51:07.000 I take a look at, you know, Cash, of course, he wrote that book.

00:51:11.000 Was it called Government Gangsters?

00:51:13.000 Was that his book?

00:51:14.000 I think so.

00:51:15.000 And I remember, like, we've had him on several times.

00:51:18.000 We talked to him.

00:51:18.000 The first time I interviewed Trump, we actually had cash on for the majority of the show.

00:51:22.000 And then we only had about 17 minutes with the president.

00:51:25.000 At the time, he wasn't president.

00:51:27.000 And where I feel we are now is kind of, it's insane.

00:51:31.000 It was like, I remember we were in Austin when Kyle Rittenhouse was found not guilty.

00:51:37.000 And it was crazy.

00:51:38.000 All the women were crying.

00:51:39.000 Like, my mom was crying.

00:51:40.000 She's, like, texting me, like, I can't believe it.

00:51:42.000 Justice, we're so happy for this young man.

00:51:44.000 When Trump won, and then over the next, you know, month or so, when he gets Tulsi Gabbard in, Cash, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi, it's like we are winning these positions.

00:51:55.000 So when I brought up, you know, it's kind of crazy to sit next to Kristi Noem and be like, the head of DHS, wow.

00:52:00.000 But I actually agree with these people.

00:52:03.000 For most of my life, the people have been in these positions of power have been deep state shills, uniparty talking 0.76

00:52:10.000 liars. Now it's Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, and it's kind of crazy because it's like, oh, boy, they got a lot of work in front of them, and they are in one of the most dangerous positions.

00:52:21.000 We view it largely as a position of power, but now you've got the entire orchestrated global liberal economic order not happy with what they're doing.

00:52:32.000 Yeah, I mean, it's no joke.

00:52:37.000 That the Trump administration has actually embarked on is massive.

00:52:42.000 I mean, and as much as people complain, oh, you know, they're not moving fast enough, blah, blah, blah.

00:52:48.000 The fact that two judges or three, a judge and his wife and another judge have been, you know, arrested.

00:52:55.000 I mean, I can't imagine that happening under any other administration.

00:53:00.000 I mean, I don't think that that.

00:53:04.000 That certainly, obviously, wouldn't happen under the Biden administration.

00:53:08.000 And I want to say this, too, just everybody to reiterate.

00:53:12.000 You mentioned the Gorka interview.

00:53:14.000 He mentions that Cash Patel was a victim of the deep state.

00:53:16.000 It went after him.

00:53:18.000 So Cash now, as head of the FBI, and Dan Bongino as deputy director, a lot of people are posting on X. They're like, why aren't they doing anything?

00:53:26.000 I want the files.

00:53:27.000 I want the arrest.

00:53:28.000 And they're angry.

00:53:29.000 I just hope everyone realizes, by taking those positions, They have put themselves in front of Donald Trump.

00:53:36.000 They're in the line of fire.

00:53:37.000 Deep state actors arrested his lawyers, his people who worked on his campaign.

00:53:42.000 They arrested his valet, as Josie mentioned earlier.

00:53:45.000 They arrested him.

00:53:46.000 They lied about him.

00:53:47.000 They smeared him.

00:53:48.000 They accused him of sexual assault and felonies and fraud.

00:53:50.000 When Cash and Dan took that position, the question was simple.

00:53:55.000 Will you take a job knowing that if you fail it...

00:54:00.000 They will destroy everything you know and love.

00:54:03.000 There's a possibility that when this administration is over, if the Democrats win, there's a significant possibility that all the people in this administration become targets of the...

00:54:17.000 They'll go to jail.

00:54:18.000 It'll be prison.

00:54:19.000 If Cash and Dan do not succeed in their efforts, if Kristi Noem and Trump do not succeed in their efforts, when this is over, Trump's going to prison.

00:54:31.000 They're going to go after Cash and Dan.

00:54:33.000 They're going to accuse them of illegal activities.

00:54:35.000 They're going to accuse them of weaponizing government.

00:54:37.000 This is the thing people need to understand.

00:54:39.000 I don't care what Democrats are saying.

00:54:41.000 They're lying.

00:54:43.000 They've been lying.

00:54:45.000 The arrest of these judges, we can see why.

00:54:49.000 Now, let's see them convicted, of course, in a court of law with the evidence.

00:54:54.000 But we know for a fact the Biden administration has.

00:54:58.000 The Democrats can and will go after their political opponents unjustly.

00:55:04.000 So, yeah, I firmly believe that if in the end, in four years from now, the Trump administration accomplished nothing, they failed to deport, Democrats win back power, they will convene panels and hearings, they will immediately indict Cashin, Dan, and whoever else,

00:55:20.000 and say that they were working alongside a criminal government under Trump.

00:55:24.000 They'll begin using that pretext to reverse Trump policies, bring people back.

00:55:29.000 They're going to say, I mean, this has just begun, right?

00:55:32.000 But take a look at the Obrego Garcia story, where they're lying to insinuate this man is an American citizen by saying he's a Maryland man.

00:55:39.000 They will create a false history where they will say to Christine Ohm, you oversaw the illegal kidnapping and rendition of a Maryland resident to a torture dungeon.

00:55:52.000 Jail.

00:55:54.000 It's going to be like in Dark Knight Rises, when you've got the court of the people, and they just bring people in and they're like, you're guilty!

00:56:04.000 Oh, kangaroo courts?

00:56:06.000 Those always concern me, the idea of fast-tracking courts.

00:56:09.000 I think it's going to be, if you take eight years of economic reform and we're actually getting bread cheaper, I think that the people will be on the side of...

00:56:21.000 What's happening right now?

00:56:22.000 I think, you know, when I talk to these classic libs, you know, I did a sit down with the trigonometry guys a while ago.

00:56:30.000 I don't know when they're putting that interview up.

00:56:32.000 But even Rogan, to a certain degree, they live in this world of if Trump does something that is over the line.

00:56:42.000 Democrats will do it next, and they'll do it to you. 0.54

00:56:44.000 And it's like, I don't think they understand.

00:56:45.000 The Democrats are going to do it no matter what we do. 0.60

00:56:48.000 Josie, you said constitutional crisis.

00:56:49.000 And I know it just sounds like, eh, okay, we've been in so many crises these days, but that's like a big deal, as far as I can tell.

00:56:56.000 It's a loophole.

00:56:57.000 They were able to put all of these federal judges in.

00:57:00.000 This is why elections are important, because...

00:57:02.000 Oh my gosh.

00:57:04.000 Dude, my phone's AI just picked up and started talking to me, and I have the volume down.

00:57:08.000 Sorry about that, Josie.

00:57:09.000 Was it trying to get into the conversation and argue something? 0.98

00:57:11.000 Yeah, I was like, Ian, shut up. 0.82

00:57:13.000 I don't know. 0.97

00:57:14.000 I just shut it off.

00:57:15.000 I don't know what it was saying.

00:57:16.000 It was like, Ian, you're rolling ones.

00:57:17.000 I was like, Ian, step it up.

00:57:19.000 For the Culture War Live, we're getting little signs printed up that are D20s, and on one side is a 1 and the other side is a 20. So when people are debating, people can hold them up.

00:57:29.000 I'll holler.

00:57:30.000 Okay, Josie, sorry.

00:57:31.000 I completely forgot what I was saying.

00:57:33.000 It was the technocrats.

00:57:34.000 He was asking about the constitutional crisis and what it means.

00:57:38.000 Okay, so they were able to get all of these federal judges in, and I said this is why elections are important, because the Senate confirms the judges.

00:57:44.000 So Mitch McConnell, for all of his faults, and there are many, many, many, many, many faults, he did get 10,000 conservative judges approved in his time.

00:57:53.000 So that's great.

00:57:55.000 I don't know how much that means, because...

00:57:58.000 Are they populist judges or are they elitist uniparty shill?

00:58:02.000 It's probably a mix, I would guess.

00:58:04.000 But they're not progressive judges, which we have seen the progressive judges.

00:58:09.000 So intervention but no sterilizing kids?

00:58:12.000 Pretty much.

00:58:13.000 I don't know how I feel about that.

00:58:14.000 Like they're both really bad.

00:58:16.000 Yeah.

00:58:18.000 It's not great.

00:58:19.000 We're not in a great place.

00:58:20.000 But they were able to find this sort of loophole in the Constitution, which is one of the very few that I see personally that can't be remedied.

00:58:28.000 And they were able to exploit it by putting all their people in and saying, there's no repercussions. 0.88

00:58:32.000 You're never going to impeach these people.

00:58:33.000 Pack the courts.

00:58:35.000 Pack the court right now.

00:58:37.000 Because if Trump doesn't, Democrats will.

00:58:39.000 The Supreme Court?

00:58:40.000 It's the last place.

00:58:42.000 The Supreme Court is the last place that's not completely...

00:58:46.000 We still have...

00:58:47.000 I mean, it's not looking good with how Amy Coney Barrett's been and how Justice Robert has been.

00:58:52.000 We could look at it and say, okay, well, it does look like it's 4-5 right now, but packing it is...

00:59:00.000 We're going to pack it, say they put 14 in, the Democrats are going to get in power and they'll put 19 in.

00:59:05.000 It'll be endlessly trying to.

00:59:08.000 That's going to slow down rulings, that's going to make things...

00:59:12.000 And in that time when there are 19 Democratic judges sitting on there, Second Amendment is gone.

00:59:19.000 So here's the issue.

00:59:21.000 The way it was supposed to work in this country is that there was a federal circuit for each Supreme Court justice.

00:59:26.000 We had nine circuits, so we have nine justices.

00:59:29.000 However, we added more states and expanded the territories, and now we have 13 circuits and still nine justices, which means John Roberts oversees the fourth, Clarence Thomas the 11th, Alito the third, Sotomayor oversees the first and the second.

00:59:44.000 You've got Kagan for the fifth, Gorsuch for the tenth, Kavanaugh for the D.C. Circuit, Amy Coney Barrett for the seventh circuit, and Ketanji Brown-Jackson for the sixth.

00:59:54.000 The ninth circuit is usually assigned to Kagan as well, but sometimes gets reassigned.

00:59:58.000 So the argument from Democrats during Biden and during Obama was, we better pack the courts.

01:00:05.000 We need four more justices right now so that there's a justice for each federal circuit. 0.95

01:00:11.000 Trump must do this, in my opinion.

01:00:13.000 Well, some of those circuits are different sizes of people, so smashing two smaller circuits together might make sense.

01:00:20.000 Maybe that's how they're doing it.

01:00:21.000 And so to add another judge that has a small circuit wouldn't make any sense.

01:00:25.000 Don't care.

01:00:26.000 I think that the Supreme Court's kind of whack in general.

01:00:29.000 If Trump does not do it, Democrats will.

01:00:31.000 I believe it is a 100% chance if Democrats at any point regain power, the first thing they'll do is pack the court.

01:00:39.000 They will.

01:00:40.000 They will pack the court.

01:00:42.000 Because they will say, never again to Donald Trump, and we can ensure this if we give ourselves a bulletproof majority in the Supreme Court, and then they're going to just ram through law by SCOTUS ruling, which is unconstitutional and shouldn't be done.

01:00:58.000 I mean, it's clear that the Democrats do want, like, single-party rule.

01:01:03.000 They don't see the value of having opposing viewpoints at all.

01:01:08.000 And you see it in the way the party acts, like the People on the Ground Act, they excommunicate people for having the wrong opinion.

01:01:17.000 If you have a dissenting opinion, they're like, oh, well, you're persona non grata.

01:01:22.000 They're a cult.

01:01:23.000 And so it stands to reason that they would see government like that as a good thing, even though you can look at a state like California, which has that single party rule, and see all the massive problems.

01:01:38.000 The governor is trying to walk away from that kind of constantly only listening to people in his own party.

01:01:46.000 I mean, maybe it's for cynical reasons because he's looking to be the president, but it still doesn't change the fact that people are leaving California.

01:01:55.000 There are people that are constantly criticizing California's government because it's failing the people.

01:02:00.000 You're making me think of David Hogg as you were talking about that, because he's, what, DNC head?

01:02:04.000 Not head of DNC.

01:02:05.000 Vice chair.

01:02:05.000 Vice chair of the DNC, and they're trying to, now they're looking to push the guy out because he challenged the Uniparty, basically.

01:02:10.000 Like, welcome to the Democratic Party, bro.

01:02:12.000 Superdelegates, you have no power in that party. 0.89

01:02:14.000 They pay his shoes.

01:02:16.000 I love it.

01:02:16.000 And I'm glad that it's Hogg because he's got a lot of influence.

01:02:19.000 He has a very liberal upbringing and has been through a shocking experience at Parkland with the school shooting that he was a part of, involved in.

01:02:27.000 And it just transformed his...

01:02:28.000 Wait, what?

01:02:29.000 He was there when it happened.

01:02:30.000 Oh, he wasn't there.

01:02:31.000 Oh, I thought he was in the school.

01:02:31.000 He was at home.

01:02:32.000 He rode his bike to the school.

01:02:34.000 One of the more vocal people involved with that coming out of an activism.

01:02:37.000 Let's clarify.

01:02:38.000 I believe he was somewhere at the school, nowhere near the shooting.

01:02:41.000 And went home.

01:02:42.000 And then when he found out that they were doing interviews, he jumped on his bike and went as fast as he could to the school to get interviews.

01:02:47.000 I think he's going to be somebody...

01:02:49.000 I have a lot of compassion for him in general just because I think he's going to be someone that is going to have an arc where he leaves the Democratic Party and realizes how vile it was and then just starts speaking out about what he believes.

01:02:59.000 And that's a good opportunity to...

01:03:01.000 That's a very charitable position.

01:03:03.000 Yeah, like look at the way they're treating that.

01:03:05.000 He's like the Bernie...

01:03:05.000 But Bernie Sanders...

01:03:06.000 He's not Bernie Sanders.

01:03:07.000 He's getting the Bernie Sanders treatment right now.

01:03:09.000 From what I can tell.

01:03:10.000 Well, like the DNC, there's a reason though, but the DNC is supposed to worry about getting Democrats elected over Republicans, not which Democrats are in positions of power.

01:03:26.000 Like once you've got a Democrat in a seat to challenge that seat and possibly lose that seat because of the challenge is a bad thing for the vice chair of the Democrat DNC to do.

01:03:37.000 Just for the sake of clarity.

01:03:38.000 He was, uh, David Hogg was at the school during the shooting.

01:03:41.000 Uh, they heard gunshots and were redirected by a janitor, uh, and then hidden, uh, wait, I'm sorry, a culinary arts teacher, sheltered them in a closet.

01:03:49.000 He filmed a bunch of videos, got out safely, and went home, and then rode his bike back to the school after dark and gave interviews.

01:03:57.000 Ah, okay.

01:03:58.000 It's, you know, when I was younger too, it's easy to be like use socialism to try and solve problems.

01:04:03.000 But, you know, you learn as you get older, a lot of times that you got to take personal responsibility and protect your, your local environment.

01:04:09.000 And if everyone's doing that, you don't really need socialism because you're all working together.

01:04:13.000 There's decentralized unity to protect the,

01:04:15.000 I say we just rapidly introduce Neuralink AI technology as fast as we can and bestowed upon Democrats.

01:04:26.000 They'll be happy.

01:04:30.000 Then they'll live in the pod and eat the bugs.

01:04:32.000 Or we could not.

01:04:33.000 What do you mean?

01:04:34.000 That sounds like a terrible idea.

01:04:35.000 To have all the Democrats choose to go into the pods and eat the bugs and leave us alone?

01:04:39.000 I don't know.

01:04:40.000 That resolves all problems for everybody.

01:04:42.000 Trans people can live in a reality where they're women, and then they're not voting in our elections. 1.00

01:04:48.000 The right can have babies and live and go to church. 0.82

01:04:51.000 Everybody's happy.

01:04:52.000 I feel like you're just trying to make the Borg.

01:04:54.000 That's what I'm thinking, too.

01:04:55.000 I didn't say they would have any control over these environments.

01:04:58.000 Somebody would have control.

01:04:59.000 Like, bro, you know what happens when you're playing in World of Warcraft and you try using mods to cheat?

01:05:04.000 The admins come and boot you out of the game.

01:05:06.000 So they'll have no authority over it.

01:05:07.000 It'll be run by us.

01:05:09.000 And we'll say, don't worry.

01:05:10.000 We will do everything in our power to make sure you're happy and comfortable as you own nothing, live in the pot and eat the bugs.

01:05:15.000 But don't worry.

01:05:17.000 Don't feel shame from living in the pot and eating the bugs because in your private little universe...

01:05:22.000 You're the dragon slayer Vanmark who rides at night and shines the golden sword.

01:05:28.000 They'd all be just perverse hurt.

01:05:30.000 Sure. 0.99

01:05:30.000 They'd all be just disgusting. 0.99

01:05:32.000 Well, but true, but sometimes it would be perverted, disgusting garbage as they pretend to be Vanmark, the paladin of the dragon. 0.98

01:05:40.000 So, hypothetical, if there was like a political movement that took on neural link and then they had a hive mind, would you then take on a hive mind with another movement to try and challenge it? 0.88

01:05:51.000 No.

01:05:52.000 Because I feel like it's an unstoppable force, a hive mind, like the Borg is unstoppable almost.

01:05:56.000 No, the vulnerability of hive minds is the susceptibility of viruses.

01:06:01.000 The strength of a decentralized system is if a portion of that decentralized system is corrupt, it doesn't spread as rapidly and can be prevented.

01:06:10.000 I feel like David Hogg's loyalties, he wouldn't become a libertarian, he wouldn't become a conservative, he'd get more radical to the left.

01:06:20.000 I feel like he would have...

01:06:24.000 I agree completely.

01:06:26.000 I mean that legitimately.

01:06:28.000 When I see someone who I view as has the potential to be really Hitler-esque, it's David Hogg.

01:06:34.000 Yes. 0.99

01:06:34.000 He is a narcissistic sociopath who is driven by attention and power. 0.99

01:06:39.000 He doesn't care what's true because if he did, he'd look up what's true or he knows it's true and he's lying intentionally for power. 0.89

01:06:46.000 So he comes off as...

01:06:50.000 Really sociopathic and on a quest for power.

01:06:53.000 AOC as well.

01:06:54.000 He's kind of young.

01:06:55.000 Hogg is, what is it, 24 at this point?

01:06:57.000 24. He's still got time.

01:06:59.000 Give it like three or four years.

01:07:01.000 I was definitely like, not a communist, but I was like, we can all do this together.

01:07:05.000 We are all one.

01:07:06.000 Follow me.

01:07:07.000 I will save us.

01:07:08.000 Revolution, that kind of mindset up until like age 29 when I realized like, oh, we can 3D print guns.

01:07:13.000 You can't control people anymore.

01:07:17.000 I think Hogg, hopefully, I mean, it's kind of like, it's not predestined.

01:07:21.000 We can have him here on a show.

01:07:23.000 You can have conversations with him.

01:07:25.000 We change together.

01:07:26.000 But he is like the kind of guy that's super influential.

01:07:29.000 And if you just send him off into the nether to go build a movement alone with his cohorts, it could be very dangerous.

01:07:37.000 It's not just David.

01:07:38.000 It's people in that position.

01:07:39.000 I wonder how influential he actually is.

01:07:45.000 I mean, obviously he's got a lot of followers.

01:07:47.000 I don't think he is.

01:07:47.000 But I don't know that he's...

01:07:49.000 Yeah, I don't know that he's actually...

01:07:52.000 He's not an opinion maker.

01:07:55.000 I actually don't find him to be particularly influential.

01:07:58.000 He's been sitting around a million followers forever on accident.

01:08:01.000 It's a big amount, don't get me wrong, but it's not growing.

01:08:03.000 He's not building a base.

01:08:05.000 This is like, what is this, six, seven years he's had that amount of followers?

01:08:08.000 He's not advanced his influence in any meaningful way.

01:08:12.000 Name the other vice chairs of the DNC.

01:08:14.000 You can't.

01:08:15.000 He's as prominent as they are.

01:08:16.000 We know his name because he's easy to pick on.

01:08:19.000 And I do mean that.

01:08:21.000 He's probably 100 pounds soaking wet. 1.00

01:08:24.000 So when he goes on TV and doesn't know what he's talking about and looks stupid, it's an easy target for conservatives. 1.00

01:08:29.000 I drag him mercilessly at least once a month. 0.98

01:08:32.000 You know, Dean Withers apparently has given up and he's just now taken to doing podcasts with random people who have no idea what they're talking about.

01:08:39.000 I saw him with a Charlie Kirk event.

01:08:40.000 That might have been an old video.

01:08:41.000 I just saw it today.

01:08:42.000 Yeah, that was Jubilee, wasn't it?

01:08:43.000 I don't know.

01:08:44.000 He's trying to get interviewed.

01:08:44.000 Charlie wouldn't talk to him.

01:08:45.000 I don't know when it was from, though.

01:08:47.000 So he's trying to debate people or talk to people or interview anybody?

01:08:50.000 The clips that I'm seeing people share, it's no longer...

01:08:53.000 He got a big boost when he was yelling at Charlie Kirk or somebody.

01:08:57.000 That was the Jubilee thing I saw, yeah.

01:09:00.000 And now it's like the videos that people are sharing of him is him talking to random people on the street.

01:09:05.000 So he's doing that.

01:09:06.000 Man on the street stuff?

01:09:08.000 Yeah, but he's also got podcast clips where he's in a room doing a podcast talking to someone who's like a random nobody.

01:09:13.000 Who's just like, I don't know, I voted for Trump.

01:09:15.000 It's like, why?

01:09:15.000 It's like, oh, I don't know.

01:09:17.000 And it's like, oh, oh, oh.

01:09:18.000 You know, so I don't think, you know, people really thought that he had something, this Dean Withers guy.

01:09:24.000 And then he kind of just fell off.

01:09:26.000 And I think he's too scared to actually engage.

01:09:29.000 The actual political space.

01:09:30.000 Like he feels like his position's tenuous at the moment.

01:09:32.000 No, but I mean, look at Harry Sisson and who's that other guy?

01:09:35.000 Maori or whatever?

01:09:36.000 These guys are largely afraid of going into actual political spaces.

01:09:41.000 I think Dean's different, though.

01:09:42.000 This is why I think Politicon failed.

01:09:43.000 You guys remember Politicon?

01:09:46.000 For those that don't know, it was a political debate convention for the most part.

01:09:49.000 It was panels were had between various individuals of different backgrounds.

01:09:54.000 But it's just going to be conservatives because these younger liberals are terrified to actually engage in these conversations because they end up looking like Luke Beasley did on this show.

01:10:03.000 And now he doesn't want to come back.

01:10:05.000 He doesn't want to do any debates.

01:10:06.000 He won't do it.

01:10:08.000 We've said anybody you want.

01:10:09.000 They don't want to do it.

01:10:10.000 We do have success with smaller, less well-known liberals because they don't have anything to lose.

01:10:16.000 It's hard to be influential in that space because...

01:10:21.000 They can't really think for themselves.

01:10:23.000 They have to follow a very specific script.

01:10:25.000 If they go out of line, then, you know, the cult comes for them, and they're like, nope, you can't say that.

01:10:30.000 You can't do that.

01:10:32.000 You know, I think on a previous show, Tim, you talked about, like, abortion, for instance.

01:10:37.000 You could be the biggest communist in the world, but then you're like, maybe there should be a limit on abortion.

01:10:42.000 It's like, nope, you're out.

01:10:44.000 Yeah, you could.

01:10:45.000 Jimmy Dore, he's the example he was all the time.

01:10:47.000 I mean, the dude's a socialist economically, and he's called right-wing.

01:10:51.000 Like, the left calls him a right-winger.

01:10:53.000 It makes no sense.

01:10:53.000 As soon as you start to explore reality, I mean, almost any of these conspiracy theories, not any by any means, but like 9-11 for me, the war in Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, you start to go down that, it's just this whole liberal economic sham becomes apparent.

01:11:09.000 You start to see the lines and the outlines of it all, and like, how can I live a lie?

01:11:14.000 I cannot live a lie.

01:11:15.000 So this is the issue with these liberal personalities and why they don't do shows.

01:11:20.000 Because...

01:11:20.000 If you were to sit down in a chair where everybody has a computer pulled up and a monitor where we display, I mean, I got a monitor in front of me.

01:11:26.000 There's a monitor behind Ian and a gigantic TV on the wall showing this story that you are seeing on the screen now.

01:11:31.000 So when I think one of the big moments on this show is when Hunter Avalone came on and I said, well, look, you know, Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars.

01:11:42.000 And he smugly went, that never happened.

01:11:44.000 And here's this kid actually thought that was so he was lied to.

01:11:49.000 The liberals were saying that never happened, so he genuinely believed it.

01:11:52.000 And then I went, okay, and I pulled the video up in literally 30 seconds and pressed play and said, yeah, you were wrong about that, now what?

01:11:57.000 And it's humiliating.

01:11:59.000 He doesn't have any talking points.

01:12:01.000 He had to be wrong about that because it just simply didn't happen.

01:12:03.000 So there's no script.

01:12:05.000 So what happens when you're like 20 years old, you build up a big following based on liberal talking points, and then when you start actually building out your business, you start to realize you're wrong about a lot of things.

01:12:18.000 And then you realize, I can't actually go on any of those conservative shows, because how do you lie about something that is basically true?

01:12:27.000 Like, Abrego Garcia, Maryland man.

01:12:31.000 So what happens when you go on that show and say, okay, you're calling him a Maryland resident, a Maryland man.

01:12:35.000 He's from El Salvador.

01:12:36.000 He's accused of beating his wife.

01:12:38.000 And then they're like, now they're all backing away.

01:12:40.000 You see the Democrats being like, oh, it's not about him.

01:12:43.000 When the Democrats first got on board with that, it very much was about the Maryland father.

01:12:49.000 Hasan Piker, do you know this?

01:12:50.000 He did not know the guy was from El Salvador.

01:12:52.000 He thought he was from Maryland.

01:12:53.000 If they were just honest and said, look, the guy may not be a great guy, but we're worried about due process.

01:12:59.000 If they'd have just gone with that line, right, it would have been at least tolerable.

01:13:04.000 And the right wouldn't have been able to mock the Democrats so mercilessly.

01:13:08.000 They wouldn't have had so much egg on their face. 0.99

01:13:10.000 Here's why people like Dean Withers would rather do a man on the street than actually come on this show.

01:13:16.000 Because he was booked.

01:13:17.000 And then he canceled and said he would reschedule and never did.

01:13:20.000 Because what he's doing now is he walks up to a random person and says, Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felonies.

01:13:26.000 Why?

01:13:27.000 And then the regular person's like, I don't know.

01:13:29.000 I heard that.

01:13:30.000 I think it's probably not true.

01:13:31.000 It's like, what's not true about it?

01:13:32.000 And they're like, I don't know.

01:13:34.000 It just seems like they're weaponizing against him.

01:13:36.000 And he goes, how?

01:13:37.000 And it's like, OK, Dean, come on this show.

01:13:40.000 And from memory, I will break down the entirety of that case for you.

01:13:43.000 That's why liberals avoid shows like this.

01:13:45.000 And that's why, even though my politics may be, like, moderate, liberal-leaning in some areas, they call me right-wing.

01:13:52.000 It's why Jimmy Dore, a socialist, is called right-wing.

01:13:54.000 And that's why when Hassan humiliated himself when he played the clip of my White House press briefing question, and he was like, what do you mean, bro?

01:14:02.000 Are you actually saying he's not from Maryland?

01:14:03.000 Like, he's from D.C. And then he's like, centrist liberal Tim Pool, yeah.

01:14:09.000 It's like, my dude.

01:14:11.000 Hassan genuinely believed the guy was from Maryland.

01:14:14.000 He didn't know the guy was from El Salvador.

01:14:16.000 And then he was, because of that, he thought Tim Pool's not a centrist liberal.

01:14:21.000 When all I did was say, here is a thing that is true, like fact-based, that the media is lying about, Hassan chose to believe the media and made the assumption I was lying about what the media was reporting.

01:14:36.000 He trusts the media when I was calling out the lies from the media.

01:14:41.000 I had my red-pilling reality shattering happen in 2007 before I had any kind of following.

01:14:48.000 I had like 4,000 followers on YouTube.

01:14:50.000 It was big at the time, but it was humiliating.

01:14:53.000 And I had to learn in real time in public.

01:14:56.000 And because of that humility, I feel much stronger in my beliefs now.

01:15:00.000 But for someone to have 66 million...

01:15:03.000 600,000 followers, that amount of humiliation to realize that everything, not everything, but things you've been saying for a decade, five years, is wrong, is like, how are you going to eat that one, bro?

01:15:14.000 And Tim, I want to ask you, what was your red-pilling like?

01:15:17.000 Like, how did you start to see past the narrative?

01:15:19.000 I never had a red-pilling.

01:15:21.000 Did you always, since 9-11?

01:15:23.000 Like, how far back did you, like...

01:15:24.000 Well, I mean, actually, I'll put it this way.

01:15:26.000 I had...

01:15:27.000 I did not have a moment most would describe as like a red-pilling moment where they were like, I'm a Democrat then.

01:15:33.000 Like Brandon Strzok describes how he felt physical pain, realized he was wrong.

01:15:36.000 But I've had many formative moments.

01:15:37.000 So the story I often tell is that, you know, I grew up Catholic.

01:15:42.000 Family basically walked away from the church.

01:15:44.000 I became an angsty teenage atheist, punk rock, all that stuff.

01:15:47.000 And then when I was 18, I was hanging out with this guy, went to his house to like chill and jam.

01:15:52.000 And he was like a prominent skateboarder.

01:15:54.000 So this was like, this is super cool.

01:15:55.000 It's like, I was going to hang out with the cool kids and he had a picture of Jesus on his wall.

01:15:57.000 And then I was like, what are you like a Christian or something?

01:16:01.000 He's like, nah.

01:16:02.000 And I was like, then why do you have Jesus on your wall?

01:16:04.000 And he said, I just thought a story about a guy go around helping people is kind of cool.

01:16:07.000 And then I was like, that was a formative moment for me that, that maybe you could describe as a red pill moment.

01:16:13.000 That's probably it.

01:16:15.000 That's probably a way to describe it.

01:16:17.000 That all of these angsty, atheist, liberal, urban narratives...

01:16:22.000 Didn't actually encompass what someone who actually liked Jesus thought.

01:16:26.000 So here's a guy who wasn't a Christian, didn't go to church, didn't think anything other than, I don't know, there's a story about a guy who helped people.

01:16:34.000 And then I started to think about it for a second, and I was like, yeah, that's actually kind of okay.

01:16:39.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:16:40.000 That was probably the moment when I was 18. That was probably the moment where I was like, yeah, all that stuff, they're pushing forward about what it means to be Christian.

01:16:47.000 Because I was very much like on the Watching Real Time with Bill Maher.

01:16:52.000 All that stuff.

01:16:53.000 And then you just...

01:16:53.000 Urban liberal.

01:16:54.000 That then kind of like shattered your...

01:16:56.000 Or that then allowed you to start to see that Borg-ish mentality elsewhere?

01:16:59.000 So I will say this.

01:17:01.000 I have known of Alex Jones for a very long time since I was a teenager.

01:17:06.000 Because I was on the internet my whole life since I was a little kid.

01:17:08.000 So, like, I had friends that were talking about info...

01:17:12.000 Prison Planet, I think was the website.

01:17:14.000 And then, of course, there was Loose Change and Loose Change 9-11.

01:17:17.000 I think I was like...

01:17:19.000 I don't know how old I was, 16 or 17, when the 9-11 truth stuff was getting popular online.

01:17:24.000 So I had seen Alex Jones stuff all the time.

01:17:26.000 So I had a general understanding that the media was full of it and lying all the time.

01:17:31.000 But that's why I say that I don't have a traditional red pill moment.

01:17:35.000 But I do think that moment I described where I realized that this urban, liberal, angsty, atheist narrative was not really conveying what Christians actually believed.

01:17:46.000 There's another moment where I was hanging out with this chick in the suburbs when I was like 17, so this is even before that, and they were Christian Catholic pro-life, and we were having dinner.

01:17:56.000 Like, they invited me to the house to hang out, and they cooked dinner, and then they explained that they were pro-life, and I asked them what that meant, and they told me, and I was like, oh.

01:18:02.000 And then I was like, that kind of exposure, I think, probably insulated me from the more Trump derangement syndrome mentality, you know?

01:18:09.000 Like, I already knew some of these people.

01:18:11.000 I knew they weren't Hitler for believing the things they believed.

01:18:14.000 I gotta ask you the same question, Josie.

01:18:15.000 What was your path towards breaking the psychological mold?

01:18:20.000 Ron Paul.

01:18:24.000 I grew up in Massachusetts, and I never really fit in in Massachusetts.

01:18:28.000 I tried to fit in in different ways.

01:18:33.000 In high school, I joined the Gay-Straight Alliance, you know, just so I could kind of feel out different people in different groups, and nothing really...

01:18:44.000 Nothing really worked.

01:18:45.000 I'm not gay, by the way.

01:18:46.000 I'm straight.

01:18:47.000 But still.

01:18:48.000 So then 9-11 happens.

01:18:51.000 And I'm in high school.

01:18:53.000 And a lot of people around me were all of a sudden really like, we're going to go to war.

01:18:58.000 We're going to get this.

01:19:00.000 We're going to go to war. 0.90

01:19:01.000 And this is good.

01:19:02.000 And I remember thinking in my heart, this isn't good.

01:19:06.000 This isn't good.

01:19:07.000 Something doesn't work right.

01:19:09.000 I don't know.

01:19:09.000 This doesn't feel right to me.

01:19:11.000 It didn't feel right to be pro-war.

01:19:12.000 It didn't feel right to be an activist.

01:19:14.000 Nothing felt right.

01:19:15.000 And then it was 2012 when I found Ron Paul and I was like, this feels right.

01:19:22.000 So I don't know if it was really a red pill moment.

01:19:24.000 It was just a moment where...

01:19:27.000 Every view that I had, the way that I am, who I was my whole life just made sense because I found my people.

01:19:33.000 I found my tribe.

01:19:33.000 Were you political from 2001 to 2010?

01:19:36.000 No.

01:19:37.000 No, I wasn't.

01:19:38.000 I sort of started dipping my feet into it in 2012, but I didn't start the Red-Headed Libertarian until December 2017.

01:19:48.000 So there was a period of time where I was still...

01:19:52.000 Politically homeless because there wasn't a Ron Paul that I could really attach to.

01:19:55.000 So I found Rand Paul and I'm like, okay, I like him, you know, like his filibuster of the Patriot Act.

01:20:00.000 I think that was 2014.

01:20:02.000 And so I was like, I like this guy and I was following this guy now, you know.

01:20:06.000 So it really came to the point where Trump got elected and I'm living in Massachusetts still and everybody is insane. 0.93

01:20:14.000 Everybody lost their minds.

01:20:15.000 And I'm like, why?

01:20:17.000 Why is everybody crazy about this?

01:20:19.000 I just couldn't understand it.

01:20:21.000 And so I had a friend who was like, well, you should maybe go on Twitter at the time.

01:20:27.000 He's like, you know, you'll find people to talk to.

01:20:29.000 You'll find people, like-minded people.

01:20:31.000 And so I'm like, okay.

01:20:32.000 So I just wanted to get on Twitter and make like a couple of friends that I could talk to.

01:20:37.000 And I accidentally...

01:20:41.000 Made a lot of friends.

01:20:43.000 Doused your mind with a new form of consciousness?

01:20:46.000 Accidentally made a lot of friends.

01:20:47.000 Yeah, I had no intention of this ever happening.

01:20:50.000 I don't know.

01:20:50.000 The libertarians kind of went nuts, though.

01:20:52.000 Yeah.

01:20:53.000 It's a good domestic policy, but it doesn't work geopolitically.

01:20:56.000 This is why I'm really aligning myself with the founders, because it's something I was always interested in and always loved with the Constitution.

01:21:02.000 I understood it, and I could explain it, and I know a lot of people were never taught about it, and they weren't taught revolutionary history.

01:21:06.000 They weren't taught accurate anything.

01:21:09.000 So it's something I'm like, all right, well, our founders were kind of the original, especially the Anti-Federalists, they were like the original states' rights libertarians, you know, so I really lean into that.

01:21:18.000 And the Federalists were more like Reagan Republicans, I guess, if I had to compare them to somebody.

01:21:23.000 Not really that far, but there's really no good way to put it.

01:21:27.000 Like, Sam Adams was definitely a states' rights guy.

01:21:31.000 But James Madison was more a little bit...

01:21:33.000 A little bit more federal, you know, so there's a little differential, but that's why I lean into that as opposed to the crazy libertarian idea, like, oh, should there be an age of consent?

01:21:43.000 You know, like the kind of libertarians that I want nothing to do with, I stay away from and judge me by my enemies.

01:21:50.000 Yeah.

01:21:50.000 Well, we got a long show, but Phil, if you want to answer that same question, I've never really asked you about your road to perdition.

01:21:56.000 Like, how did you snap out of it?

01:21:58.000 Were you even ever in it?

01:21:59.000 Because I remember you telling me you were like a Republican early, but what happened?

01:22:02.000 I mean, coming from the music industry, I was kind of always a contrarian and being like, I would be, I mean, I would argue on like lambgoat.com.

01:22:13.000 I would argue politics on lambgoat.com.

01:22:16.000 But I guess when I kind of was like, you know, when I fully decided that the whole narrative that was coming out of the government was something not to be trusted was because of Ron Paul and the Iraq War.

01:22:29.000 In 2008, I was a Ron Paul guy.

01:22:32.000 And, you know, same thing in 2012.

01:22:34.000 I was a Ron Paul guy, too.

01:22:36.000 So it was definitely the whole Ron Paul revolution stuff that kind of brought me out of it.

01:22:42.000 You know what I think was a big deal for a lot of people that led to the Ron Paul stuff was Loose Change 9-11, second edition.

01:22:51.000 What was the difference in the edition?

01:22:53.000 The first edition didn't really catch on and go viral.

01:22:55.000 The second edition with minor updates was, like, not that I agree.

01:23:00.000 Or believe it's all true.

01:23:01.000 But it was like, it was entertainment.

01:23:05.000 And everybody I knew was burning into DVDs and sharing with each other.

01:23:09.000 Zeitgeist was another.

01:23:10.000 Yeah, Zeitgeist.

01:23:11.000 It still is amazing.

01:23:12.000 Watch that movie if you haven't seen it.

01:23:14.000 Yes.

01:23:14.000 Yeah.

01:23:14.000 And so those two films went viral on burned CDs.

01:23:18.000 Like people were so compelled by these that they would burn CDs with them and share them or DVDs.

01:23:24.000 And I remember when I worked at O 'Hare.

01:23:26.000 Someone brought it in.

01:23:27.000 They're like, have you guys seen this loose change thing?

01:23:29.000 We're going to play it.

01:23:29.000 And then they played it in the break room.

01:23:31.000 And like I'd seen it online.

01:23:33.000 But that spreading around, I think, helped create the Ron Paul revolution.

01:23:38.000 Yeah, he started talking about blowback.

01:23:40.000 When I heard him say the word blowback on the presidential state where he was running for president, he started talking about it in front of Obama and Hillary or whoever he was running against at the time.

01:23:48.000 The Republicans.

01:23:49.000 Yeah, that was in the primary.

01:23:51.000 It was like I knew it.

01:23:51.000 I knew what he was saying was true.

01:23:53.000 And I'd already kind of believed that that was the case.

01:23:54.000 But to hear it.

01:23:56.000 It was terrifying.

01:23:57.000 I was terrified of Ron Paul.

01:23:58.000 He struck me as like Darth Vader about to bring balance to the Force.

01:24:02.000 And I was like terrified of what that meant.

01:24:04.000 But it was like he was just explaining the inevitable.

01:24:06.000 And we're living in it now.

01:24:08.000 Do you think David Hogg, Maury, or Sisson knows what it means to burn a CD?

01:24:15.000 Probably not.

01:24:16.000 Maybe get a match?

01:24:17.000 Pretty sure no.

01:24:18.000 Because by the time they were even old enough to comprehend the function of burning, DVDs had already taken over.

01:24:24.000 I imagine the response would be something along the lines of Hillary's, uh, what do you mean, like, with a cloth?

01:24:30.000 Like, what do you mean, like, with matches?

01:24:31.000 You know what was fun?

01:24:33.000 Turning on the radio, and then they announced that, like, up next we're gonna play, like, Plush!

01:24:39.000 And then you'd be like, oh, you'd have to put the cassette tape in and record.

01:24:42.000 I would sit by it waiting, and you'd get the, if you could, if you missed, you'd get the end of the song before.

01:24:46.000 So a lot of songs I still think of the song before.

01:24:49.000 And then you'd have, like, your mixtape you made from...

01:24:52.000 All the different radio stations are recorded on the cassette.

01:24:55.000 Jack Basovic, he calls us centennials.

01:25:00.000 That's what he calls kind of the...

01:25:01.000 Centennials?

01:25:02.000 The older millennials, he calls us centennials.

01:25:06.000 So it's people who understand because we're just...

01:25:07.000 This is a micro-generation that many of us are in.

01:25:11.000 And it essentially is...

01:25:13.000 We had to go from analog to digital.

01:25:16.000 And we had to learn both in middle school and high school.

01:25:19.000 So this puts us kind of in a...

01:25:22.000 We have advantages in some ways.

01:25:23.000 Like, look at me.

01:25:24.000 I still take paper notes, you know, instead of doing whatever on my computer.

01:25:28.000 So it just puts us in...

01:25:29.000 It gives us an advantage, but it also puts us in just a weird little group.

01:25:32.000 It's like a seven-year group of centennials.

01:25:34.000 That's really interesting to think of generations, because time is motion.

01:25:38.000 And the speeding up of information transfer is like speeding up time.

01:25:43.000 And AI, like the kids that are born with this tech are almost a different generation.

01:25:47.000 Whatever that word even means.

01:25:48.000 But it is.

01:25:49.000 Generate. Generation.

01:25:50.000 Well, so...

01:25:51.000 The technological advancements shape generations massively.

01:25:56.000 But you make a good point about the speeding up the transfer of information is condensing time.

01:26:02.000 Think about what it was like in 1776.

01:26:06.000 Think about when they declared independence.

01:26:08.000 Took six weeks to get to England.

01:26:09.000 And then, even when it got to England, it didn't necessarily mean that Parliament and the Crown had a chance to thoroughly review it.

01:26:15.000 And then the King reads it and he's like...

01:26:17.000 He laughed at it.

01:26:18.000 Yeah, and then it's got to go...

01:26:19.000 There's probably...

01:26:20.000 How many weeks of review from the British government?

01:26:23.000 And then how long until the response came back?

01:26:26.000 Another...

01:26:26.000 I mean, six weeks is actually pretty quick, to be honest.

01:26:29.000 Yeah.

01:26:29.000 It got there pretty fast.

01:26:30.000 It came back in the first thing.

01:26:32.000 They were already Redcoats stationed.

01:26:34.000 So the reason why we had the Boston Tea Party and why we had the Boston Massacre was because Massachusetts was militarized.

01:26:42.000 What had happened is they had passed the...

01:26:45.000 The Colorable Acts.

01:26:46.000 Well, first they'd passed the Stamp Act, the Sugar Act, and the Townshend Acts.

01:26:51.000 And before they passed the Townshend Acts, they're like, all right, people are rioting.

01:26:54.000 We don't want that to happen again.

01:26:55.000 So we're going to send a military over there to keep things in order.

01:26:58.000 And so by the time that the Townshend Acts were passed, and this was 67, 1767, the Townshend Acts were passed, and there was 2,000 Redcoats stationed in Boston.

01:27:09.000 And so that's why they were rioting.

01:27:12.000 That's why everybody was so mad.

01:27:14.000 And then what had happened...

01:27:16.000 They were just having one of their normal riots for the Boston Massacre.

01:27:19.000 They were having one of their normal riots out in front of a store of a loyalist.

01:27:22.000 And the guy that was guarding the store, the informant, he got all rattled and he ended up shooting into the crowd and he shot a little boy.

01:27:31.000 This was February 22nd of 1770.

01:27:33.000 Shot a little boy, the little boy dies.

01:27:35.000 His name was Christopher Snyder.

01:27:36.000 So after that, there were riots every day.

01:27:38.000 Riots, riots, riots, building and building.

01:27:40.000 And then March 5th, March 5th was the Boston Massacre.

01:27:44.000 And that was just another riot that they were out there.

01:27:46.000 And it just the Redcoats got nervous and they shot into the crowd again.

01:27:50.000 I learned about the whole lead up to the Revolutionary War is that it was like 1750 and the British were basically like not governing the colonies at all.

01:27:58.000 The colonies were on their own for the hundred years that they'd been around or whatever.

01:28:01.000 And then the British were like, okay, if we don't take these guys seriously, we're going to lose that territory to the French because they were military.

01:28:07.000 French were militarized up north.

01:28:08.000 Spanish were militarized down south.

01:28:10.000 British were like, we need to go. 1.00

01:28:11.000 Put troops in the Americas. 0.98

01:28:13.000 So they sent all these British troops. 1.00

01:28:15.000 And the colonists are like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:28:16.000 Get out of my country! 1.00

01:28:18.000 We've been doing this for a hundred years, bro.

01:28:20.000 Get out! 0.98

01:28:21.000 But the British are like, no. 1.00

01:28:22.000 We need to protect our land.

01:28:23.000 And then they decided, in order to pay the troops, they started taxing the colonists because they couldn't afford taking their homes.

01:28:30.000 So this taxing, to make the colonists pay for their own subjection, and it was just too much culture shock in 20 years.

01:28:37.000 The first major tax was 1734, I believe, and it was the molasses tax.

01:28:41.000 And so when they brought down the sugar tax, this next one, they're like, okay, well, we're going to cut the molasses tax.

01:28:45.000 But then they started taxing everything.

01:28:46.000 And they were taxing right down to a piece of paper was taxed.

01:28:50.000 If you were using a piece of paper, we're taxing.

01:28:51.000 You buy the piece of paper.

01:28:53.000 So this was very tyrannical, what they were doing there and what the colonists were living through.

01:28:58.000 It was inevitable.

01:29:00.000 It seems like nothing the British could have done could have kept the colonies.

01:29:05.000 And what Tim had brought up with the Intolerable Acts, what those were, is the punishment for the Boston Tea Party, which was just...

01:29:13.000 We were a powder keg at this point.

01:29:15.000 It was just waiting to go off after the Boston Massacre.

01:29:18.000 It was a little bit quiet for a couple years, but it was just building this patriotism.

01:29:23.000 Now, isn't that crazy, though?

01:29:24.000 Years.

01:29:25.000 The revolutionary period was, what, about 20-some-odd years?

01:29:27.000 The revolutionary period, yeah.

01:29:29.000 I mean, if you want to start at the sugar, that was 1763, and it didn't end until the Bill of Rights in 1791.

01:29:35.000 And...

01:29:36.000 Revolutions are long.

01:29:37.000 The Declaration of Independence wasn't written, signed, and declared until 13 months after the war already started.

01:29:43.000 Yeah.

01:29:44.000 Yep.

01:29:45.000 That was 1775.

01:29:46.000 People think that the founding fathers got together and were like, let's declare independence.

01:29:51.000 And then they did.

01:29:52.000 And then the crown was like, I declare war on you for doing this.

01:29:54.000 No, actually, war was declared on the colonists first.

01:29:57.000 And they largely did not organize much for about a year.

01:30:03.000 So it was, it was, I should clarify, because that's a subjective view of it.

01:30:07.000 But they did not declare a formalized country until a year later.

01:30:13.000 13 months.

01:30:14.000 And what was it?

01:30:15.000 It was July 2nd?

01:30:17.000 Yeah, July 2nd, and then they reviewed everything on July 3rd and then July 4th.

01:30:21.000 And they didn't even sign the declaration until, I think, August 8th.

01:30:24.000 Like, they actually sign it, but we still celebrate on the 4th.

01:30:29.000 But the intolerable acts were laid down after the Boston Tea Party, and what King George did...

01:30:35.000 Many of the grievances in the Declaration of Independence are about the Intolerable Acts and what King George did.

01:30:40.000 He's like, he wiped out their government, essentially, and he put his own people in as the governor.

01:30:43.000 He put his own people in as judge, jurists.

01:30:47.000 Like, it was not fair anymore.

01:30:48.000 He closed down Boston Harbor and said you can't open this until you repay the East India Company every penny.

01:30:54.000 And, I mean, the Boston Tea Party was because of the fascism between...

01:31:00.000 The East India Company and King George.

01:31:01.000 They were in bed together.

01:31:02.000 They weren't paying any taxes.

01:31:03.000 They were getting fully reimbursed on all their product.

01:31:05.000 And they were really undermining the entrepreneurs, John Hancock and Sam Adams.

01:31:10.000 So that was a big...

01:31:11.000 So here's a funny little bit of trivia.

01:31:15.000 John Adams wrote, the second day of July 1776 will be the most memorable epoca in the history of America.

01:31:22.000 I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival.

01:31:26.000 It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.

01:31:30.000 It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade and shoes, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and eliminations from one end of this continent to the other from this time forward forevermore.

01:31:42.000 July 4th?

01:31:43.000 July 2nd.

01:31:43.000 July 2nd?

01:31:45.000 And that's because why?

01:31:46.000 That's when they signed the Declaration of Independence.

01:31:48.000 But then why do they say July 4th is Independence Day?

01:31:51.000 That's when people knew it happened.

01:31:53.000 That it was officially in record.

01:31:55.000 Like, we do a lot of things, and then it gets submitted to courts, and then it gets, like, officially...

01:32:01.000 So there are...

01:32:02.000 I'll say this, without getting specifics on lawsuits.

01:32:04.000 I've been involved in lawsuits, and my lawyer will be like, the lawsuit is filed.

01:32:09.000 They have notice.

01:32:11.000 Don't say anything until the court publishes it.

01:32:13.000 And then, like, three days later, the court publishes it, and then the press gets it.

01:32:17.000 So should we celebrate July 2nd, 3rd, and 4th?

01:32:20.000 I think we're doing all right.

01:32:21.000 I think we should celebrate July 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 14th.

01:32:26.000 Yeah, Megamon.

01:32:26.000 Megamon!

01:32:28.000 It is the whole month that we celebrate.

01:32:29.000 Well, just to tap off the convo about time dilation and how, you know, the speeding up of data transfer is like, you know, squishing these generations together.

01:32:39.000 I don't know if there's even any way to...

01:32:41.000 To tie it back into what we're talking about, that it takes two days for people to know that something got signed.

01:32:46.000 Right now it takes two seconds.

01:32:48.000 It's a very different world.

01:32:49.000 A revolution can happen very quickly relative to what it used to do.

01:32:53.000 Technically.

01:32:53.000 Like I just described, you can submit official documents to a court and they don't publish it in the public record for three days or longer.

01:33:00.000 And just because the information is available doesn't mean the information is spread particularly fast.

01:33:05.000 Ian, did you know that retirements in the government are handled by going down into a limestone cavern?

01:33:09.000 The speed of technology and the speed of government are two very different things.

01:33:14.000 Yeah, they were telling me that there's no parking down there.

01:33:18.000 In Homeland Security, it's like there's no parking.

01:33:21.000 I'm like, this is the American government and there's no parking spaces?

01:33:23.000 But we have super secret underground science bases.

01:33:27.000 Mount Weather and Raven Rock?

01:33:29.000 They know where to put money, but it's definitely not at parking spaces, I guess.

01:33:32.000 They're down the street from us.

01:33:34.000 Who is it?

01:33:35.000 Raven Rock and Mount Weather.

01:33:36.000 What is it?

01:33:37.000 Bro, are you kidding?

01:33:38.000 I don't know Raven Rock.

01:33:39.000 You've never played Fallout 3?

01:33:40.000 I have played Fallout 3, yeah.

01:33:42.000 Did you beat Fallout 3?

01:33:43.000 No.

01:33:44.000 Oh.

01:33:44.000 I do all the side quests.

01:33:46.000 Because that's where the Enclave is in Raven Rock.

01:33:48.000 Okay.

01:33:48.000 It's the emergency bunker for government officials.

01:33:51.000 Oh.

01:33:51.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 Where is it relative to D.C.?

01:33:54.000 West.

01:33:56.000 Northwest.

01:33:56.000 So it's close to where we are.

01:33:59.000 Yeah, dude.

01:33:59.000 You can look it up on the map.

01:34:00.000 You got a computer on you?

01:34:01.000 Yeah.

01:34:02.000 You can look up where it's at.

01:34:03.000 They started doing renovations and expansion.

01:34:05.000 I have breaking news.

01:34:06.000 What happened?

01:34:06.000 Top Epstein accuser Virginia Guffrey dies by suicide, per NBC News.

01:34:11.000 This was Nick Sorter, just reported this.

01:34:13.000 Whoa.

01:34:13.000 She'd been suffering some sort of health conditions, I've heard.

01:34:16.000 Oh, something was very alarming that was going on with her, that nothing added up with that.

01:34:20.000 Oh, yeah, this broke a half an hour ago.

01:34:21.000 Yo, check this out.

01:34:25.000 Virginia Giuffre, one of Jeffrey Epstein's most prominent abuse survivors, dies by suicide.

01:34:31.000 I hate to ask this question, but I kind of have to.

01:34:34.000 Does anyone believe it was suicide?

01:34:36.000 No.

01:34:36.000 I do.

01:34:37.000 She'd been suffering the last six months from what I was reading.

01:34:40.000 How did she get hit by that car?

01:34:41.000 Yeah, she got hit by the car and then she lived.

01:34:43.000 And then she made the whole statement saying, well, I'm...

01:34:46.000 I'm ready to go, but I need to see my kids first.

01:34:48.000 And that was really...

01:34:49.000 You know what?

01:34:50.000 You're a mother.

01:34:50.000 You're never ready to go.

01:34:51.000 Does that sound like she was telling the people who were threatening her life, please let me see my kids one last time?

01:34:56.000 Yes, that's exactly what was happening.

01:34:57.000 What happened with the car accident?

01:34:58.000 Dude.

01:34:59.000 She just got hit by it.

01:35:00.000 She got hit by a car in her car.

01:35:01.000 I think she was in her car and they came at her at like 60, 70, 80 miles an hour and she lived.

01:35:05.000 And they told her your kidneys are failing and you have four days to live or something.

01:35:09.000 Yep.

01:35:09.000 They said you have four days to live.

01:35:10.000 Your kidneys are failing.

01:35:10.000 She's like, okay, well, I've accepted that, but I want to see my kids.

01:35:13.000 And I was like this.

01:35:14.000 Nope.

01:35:14.000 This doesn't make sense.

01:35:15.000 And now she dies by suicide.

01:35:17.000 You know, they could have said, okay, well, we're going to do it or you can do it yourself.

01:35:20.000 I don't know.

01:35:21.000 I don't believe it.

01:35:22.000 Could it be that with Trump, yo, with Pam Bondi and the Trump administration in, you know, cash and then they were saying, I believe, I don't want to speak for anybody, but I'm pretty sure they were talking about how, like, they're going to get these documents out.

01:35:35.000 And they didn't.

01:35:35.000 But apparently they're sitting on these documents.

01:35:37.000 They're going through them.

01:35:39.000 Yo, look, I hate to say this because...

01:35:42.000 There are people who know and love this woman who may be like, it legitimately was suicide.

01:35:45.000 I don't know this.

01:35:46.000 I'm just going to say this.

01:35:48.000 No one will believe it.

01:35:50.000 Considering the story right now with the Epstein documents in the Trump administration and how a lot of people are skeptical, but at the very least, if there ever was a being close to this, we are closer than ever before to these documents.

01:36:02.000 And then Virginia Giuffre gets hit by a car. 0.94

01:36:06.000 That's the part I wonder about.

01:36:07.000 I was watching a clip from that show Goliath.

01:36:09.000 You ever see that?

01:36:11.000 I think it's a show.

01:36:12.000 I don't know what it is.

01:36:13.000 But there's a viral clip where Billy Bob is in court.

01:36:15.000 He's suing, and the judge dismisses the case unjustly, so Billy Bob calls the judge corrupt.

01:36:21.000 When they're leaving, this woman who's in the case, she's like, so did we win or lose? 1.00

01:36:25.000 They're like, well, a little bit of both, and bam!

01:36:27.000 A van slams into her and just kills her. 0.83

01:36:30.000 Like, dude. 0.57

01:36:32.000 That's what I'm wondering about Virginia.

01:36:33.000 So, my take... 0.95

01:36:35.000 You know, which is ignorant, is that she was in such pain from the car accident, she decided to take her own life. 0.87

01:36:40.000 But the car accident, did they catch the guy that hit her? 0.83

01:36:43.000 She got hit by a school bus, and it was like out of nowhere.

01:36:44.000 That's right.

01:36:45.000 Yeah, and it was going faster than a school bus is legally allowed to go.

01:36:49.000 And did they get the driver?

01:36:51.000 I don't know.

01:36:52.000 It doesn't sound that way.

01:36:53.000 I mean, I feel like we would have heard it if they got the driver, but nope, it just happened.

01:36:58.000 Were the kids on the school bus?

01:37:00.000 I don't know.

01:37:01.000 I don't know.

01:37:02.000 Look, I mean, getting hit by a school bus, and like I said, it came out of nowhere, or it was like in the middle of nowhere when it happened, so...

01:37:11.000 She was out in the middle of like kind of nowhere?

01:37:14.000 Yeah, if I understand correctly, yeah.

01:37:15.000 It wasn't like...

01:37:16.000 Nothing about that story makes sense.

01:37:19.000 This is like his biggest accuser.

01:37:21.000 This is the girl.

01:37:22.000 I've been following her work for four years.

01:37:23.000 It is.

01:37:24.000 It is.

01:37:25.000 Okay, so let's go back in time a little bit.

01:37:27.000 Mike Cernovich.

01:37:28.000 They saw that there was a defamation suit.

01:37:30.000 I could be getting some of this wrong, but my general understanding is they had been trying to get information on the Epstein cases, and they couldn't.

01:37:37.000 There was a defamation case, and I believe Cernovich, I'm not sure if you – I think he was working with – maybe it was Mark Randazza.

01:37:44.000 I'm not entirely sure, so forgive me if I'm roping you into this and it wasn't you, but it might have been.

01:37:48.000 And they filed the suit.

01:37:50.000 I think it was a FOIA request or something like that to get the documents from this defamation case.

01:37:56.000 I believe it was the Miami Herald who then joined in and helped that effort, which exposed a lot of statements about Epstein and what he had been doing from Virginia Giuffre.

01:38:07.000 This blew the lid off of Epstein.

01:38:09.000 He was a free man at the time.

01:38:11.000 Shortly after this is when he gets arrested.

01:38:13.000 They start going after him.

01:38:15.000 And I think at that point, when the story started breaking, here's my assumption.

01:38:19.000 I don't know for sure.

01:38:20.000 The people that Epstein had been blackmailing were largely staying away out of fear.

01:38:25.000 When the news came down that because of what Cernovich and the Herald had been doing, the story was about to break.

01:38:31.000 Powerful individuals being blackmailed were like, oh God, no.

01:38:36.000 Get this contained.

01:38:38.000 Arrest Epstein in a panic.

01:38:40.000 He goes to this jail where he gets a cellmate who somehow Epstein gets mercilessly beaten but survives.

01:38:47.000 And he has bruises on his neck.

01:38:49.000 So then the guy's like, it wasn't me, don't look at me.

01:38:51.000 Then they move Epstein to another cell.

01:38:53.000 I'm pretty sure that cellmate died, too.

01:38:54.000 I'm not sure.

01:38:55.000 Someone fact-checked me on that one.

01:38:57.000 Then Epstein goes in the cell and ends his life with the cameras broken and the guards asleep.

01:39:02.000 He also said that he thought someone poisoned him, I think, two weeks before he died.

01:39:05.000 He was like, they tried to poison me.

01:39:07.000 I could be wrong about that.

01:39:08.000 Things get a little quiet.

01:39:10.000 Ghislaine Maxwell is arrested.

01:39:13.000 Now we're back in the Epstein story again with Pam Bondi, Cash Dan, and the FBI.

01:39:20.000 So, this is crazy.

01:39:21.000 We had that story where Pam Bondi wrote a public letter saying that the FBI was withholding Epstein documents and hiding it from her, the Attorney General.

01:39:30.000 And she ordered cash to get those documents.

01:39:32.000 They reported the documents were transferred and they were going through them and they'll be released soon.

01:39:37.000 Everyone's like, what's going on?

01:39:39.000 I wonder if the people being blackmailed are like, if these documents come to light, they are going to subpoena Virginia Giuffre and ask her to speak more on the issue.

01:39:49.000 And this is why you get a story like this.

01:39:51.000 How many other witnesses are going to come forward now?

01:39:53.000 How many other victims are going to come forward now, now that the main victim has suicided herself?

01:39:58.000 Yep.

01:40:01.000 I don't know.

01:40:01.000 You need some evidence to get that.

01:40:03.000 Epstein had two different cellmates, Nicholas Tartagolian, who was alive.

01:40:08.000 He was a former police officer.

01:40:10.000 He was accused of quadruple murder.

01:40:13.000 He was...

01:40:14.000 Epstein's cellmate in 2019 when Epstein was found semi-conscious within...

01:40:19.000 Okay, so that guy did not die.

01:40:20.000 That guy's alive.

01:40:21.000 And then Efrain Reyes was his cellmate in the special housing unit in August 8, 2019, the day before Epstein's death.

01:40:28.000 Reyes was transferred to private prison where he reportedly contracted COVID-19.

01:40:32.000 Okay. According to the post from 2020, Reyes was transferred to the death.

01:40:36.000 Okay.

01:40:37.000 on November 27, 2020 at his mother's apartment in New York City with his death attributed to coronavirus.

01:40:44.000 Okay, so I was...

01:40:45.000 Everything was coronavirus.

01:40:47.000 Yeah.

01:40:49.000 I'm telling you, like...

01:40:52.000 He's freaky out there.

01:40:54.000 I don't want to speculate, but, you know, if you understand the way of the world, yes, I believe you're right.

01:40:59.000 I genuinely think this is likely happening.

01:41:03.000 Like, Epstein was blackmailing people.

01:41:06.000 He was probably working with some intelligence.

01:41:08.000 Some people think he was working with Israeli intelligence.

01:41:10.000 I don't know if the evidence corroborates that.

01:41:12.000 I think Elaine's father was Israeli intelligence, was he not?

01:41:15.000 I don't know.

01:41:16.000 But I know that, you know, Dan Bongino on this show said some Middle Eastern intelligence or something in that effect.

01:41:22.000 And we don't know for sure.

01:41:23.000 Oh no, maybe it was British intelligence, her dad.

01:41:25.000 Maybe?

01:41:25.000 No, I think it was Israeli.

01:41:26.000 Yeah.

01:41:27.000 I think it was Mossad.

01:41:29.000 Maybe.

01:41:29.000 Yeah.

01:41:30.000 Either way, I think Jews might take, and I don't even go too deep on this, because I want to live a healthy, happy, effective reality here, but I think Ghislaine's the best. 0.89

01:41:38.000 Oh, Ian, you're the most dangerous.

01:41:39.000 Ghislaine's the mastermind.

01:41:40.000 When the dark forces come, they're like, Ian's the one we gotta do.

01:41:43.000 I'm the tornado, man.

01:41:44.000 They're like...

01:41:44.000 He's the powerhouse of Timcast IRL.

01:41:46.000 Tim Poulter, he doesn't matter.

01:41:47.000 It's Ian.

01:41:48.000 I'm the fluctuation.

01:41:50.000 Minute transference deep within.

01:41:52.000 What?

01:41:52.000 Well, here's...

01:41:53.000 Here's the question for you.

01:41:56.000 If staring down the barrel...

01:41:59.000 Staring at the sun.

01:42:00.000 If you're staring down the barrel and you are told, if you continue this pursuit, you may, you may expose the darkness or you may die.

01:42:13.000 A horrible, merciless death.

01:42:15.000 Turn around right now, and luxury and comfort awaits.

01:42:19.000 Which do you choose?

01:42:20.000 Oh, brutal.

01:42:21.000 Well, you know, I guess it depends on what time of day you ask me that question.

01:42:28.000 Have I had breakfast?

01:42:30.000 Am I hungry?

01:42:32.000 You know, my general thoughts are that it's not, of course it's important, but it's not that important relative to what we really got going on with deep state economic disaster looming.

01:42:42.000 Other people have said this, too.

01:42:43.000 They're like, the Epstein things, just forget about it.

01:42:45.000 Don't worry about it.

01:42:45.000 Don't stress about it.

01:42:46.000 Don't hate about it.

01:42:48.000 Focus on tangible solutions.

01:42:53.000 That's generally actually how I deeply feel, which is why I don't talk about this stuff very much.

01:42:57.000 The Epstein stuff.

01:42:59.000 This is crazy, man.

01:43:00.000 What's the best that could happen if we found out?

01:43:02.000 You know, Jelaine's father was suicided.

01:43:06.000 Well, he commits suicide, but she's... 0.91

01:43:08.000 These people in their families, like all the people in the sphere, they're very unwell.

01:43:12.000 You know, I think...

01:43:14.000 Depression runs in the family.

01:43:15.000 Yeah.

01:43:16.000 And their friends' families and their victims' families.

01:43:19.000 And the investigative journalists, they know families.

01:43:22.000 A lot of people who seek power, they have a narcissistic personality if they seek some kind of power, and that can transfer into cluster B, and that can transfer into all these other mental health issues, bipolar, for instance.

01:43:35.000 So yeah, I guess it's not surprising that there's a high rate of suicide, but she still says that her dad was murdered since 1997 in an interview.

01:43:45.000 And it's Israeli, so... 0.54

01:43:48.000 It's believed that he was Israeli, that intelligence.

01:43:52.000 But he also is alleged to have connections to British and Soviet.

01:43:57.000 Here's a picture of Virginia Giuffre with Prince Philip.

01:44:02.000 Is it Philip?

01:44:03.000 I think it's Andrew.

01:44:04.000 That's Andrew.

01:44:04.000 Yeah, that's Prince Andrew.

01:44:05.000 I was like, I'm pretty sure it was the other guy.

01:44:07.000 You know, I wonder if this prince whose life was ruined could somehow be involved in any of it.

01:44:14.000 I don't know.

01:44:15.000 I mean, his mom stripped him of all of his titles and stuff.

01:44:18.000 But I don't know what's going on now that his brother is running.

01:44:21.000 Well, his brother's got cancer.

01:44:22.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:44:24.000 The king?

01:44:25.000 The king.

01:44:25.000 His brother's the king?

01:44:26.000 So I don't know if anything's been lifted or replaced or something to heal the family.

01:44:31.000 I don't know.

01:44:31.000 The king of England's brother was in a picture with Virginia Giuffre.

01:44:35.000 He also was stripped of his titles and stuff by his mother because of this stuff.

01:44:43.000 So he was accused and the royal family's like, alright, we're not...

01:44:48.000 He didn't get excommunicated from the family.

01:44:51.000 They stripped him of all kinds of titles, and they didn't have him doing anything officially because of the Epstein connections.

01:44:59.000 They strip him of his, not just titles, but his, what do they call it, what you get when people die?

01:45:06.000 He was not in line to the throne.

01:45:11.000 Like his duchies or anything he was going to get?

01:45:13.000 His duchies or counts?

01:45:15.000 A duchy is a bunch of counts?

01:45:17.000 Counties?

01:45:18.000 You'll have a count that rules over a county, then you'll have a duke that rules over a multitude of counties, called a duchy.

01:45:23.000 Oh, okay.

01:45:24.000 They'll give those to their kids, like Prince Harry is the duke of this and that.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, I mean, those are largely just titles now, because they have elected officials, because they have a parliamentary system over there.

01:45:37.000 The monarchy is mostly for show.

01:45:41.000 It seems like, here, here!

01:45:42.000 Order!

01:45:44.000 Order!

01:45:45.000 Someone told me to do that.

01:45:46.000 They said, Tim, bang the hammer and tell them we're going to Chats, Rumble Rants.

01:45:50.000 Super Chats and Rumble Rants.

01:45:51.000 Smash the like button, my friends.

01:45:52.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

01:45:53.000 Let's see what you guys have to say because your insight is invaluable.

01:45:57.000 And that's true.

01:45:59.000 We often reference Super Chats and Member Collins on the show later on because people notice things we don't.

01:46:06.000 They're not here.

01:46:06.000 And that's why we're doing the Culture War Live May 3rd where...

01:46:09.000 You guys, as members of the Timcast Discord, get to come on stage.

01:46:12.000 And I think we have eight slots allotted, but it's no guarantee we actually get eight people up on stage to debate.

01:46:18.000 Let me say this.

01:46:19.000 If you are planning on debating and submitting your view on things, here's an important piece of advice.

01:46:25.000 The debate is going to be Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

01:46:29.000 Was he legally allowed to be deported?

01:46:31.000 Was the deportation correct?

01:46:32.000 How should Trump handle deportations?

01:46:35.000 And then we're going to bring you guys up to add to the mix.

01:46:37.000 If you are going to submit a debate talking point, you will likely be selected if you are referencing something specific that we have not considered.

01:46:47.000 I think he should have been deported regardless of the withholding of deportation because we have too many illegal immigrants. 1.00

01:46:57.000 We may bring you up, just depending, but just understand that's probably the first thing that will be said by Someone else already on this.

01:47:06.000 We're going to be doing a half an hour of open discussion to kick off the show.

01:47:09.000 And if your opinion is largely what has been discussed already, you're not going to want to come up and just say the same thing someone's already said.

01:47:17.000 So consider that.

01:47:19.000 What we're looking for is people who have insights or ideas that are either counter.

01:47:23.000 Maybe it's a third position.

01:47:24.000 Maybe you're like, we should be sending them to Alaska to work the lithium mines or something.

01:47:28.000 I don't know.

01:47:28.000 But you know, that's how you do it.

01:47:30.000 Let's go.

01:47:31.000 Shanich Wilder says, Josie's on a vacation far away.

01:47:34.000 Judge Hannah Dugan's career is over.

01:47:37.000 Can't say.

01:47:38.000 Shouldn't have tried to screw ice over Dungan's going to be in jail tonight.

01:47:43.000 You're supposed to sing it, Tim.

01:47:44.000 I don't know what the song is.

01:47:46.000 Oh.

01:47:51.000 Oh, okay, I get it.

01:47:55.000 Well, all right then.

01:47:59.000 The insane partisanship here in Wisconsin is horrendous.

01:48:02.000 It's reached our small towns and now neighbors are spraying swastikas on each other's cars.

01:48:07.000 God and help needed cheese.

01:48:12.000 So, if we were to track all of the insane things that have happened over the past eight years, where does this go?

01:48:23.000 I mean, like, we're at the point now where the Democrats have already arrested lawyers and politicians and now the Trump admin is arresting judges, as I think they should, but I don't think Democrats are going to sit back and just accept it.

01:48:34.000 They're going to say, he's a fascist, he's Nazis, we've got to do something, and they're going to escalate.

01:48:38.000 I still am of the opinion that without the normies in the street protesting to give the crazies and the people that want to throw firebombs and stuff, without the normies to give them cover.

01:48:52.000 It stays far less intense than the summer of love was.

01:48:58.000 I don't see mass protests by normal people because they can go to work and they have to go to work and they're not as fired up.

01:49:08.000 I mean, Trump won the popular vote, so they're not as fired up.

01:49:11.000 There's not the same phony narrative flowing out there about the Trump administration that there was about How police treated black men in America in 2020.

01:49:25.000 Remember, you ask the average person, they were thinking that thousands of black men per year were being killed.

01:49:32.000 Thousands of unarmed black men per year were killed by police.

01:49:34.000 There's thousands.

01:49:36.000 It was like 15 or 20. But the point is, without that...

01:49:41.000 Without that sense of actual injustice, even though it wasn't actually happening, without the belief of that injustice, I don't think you get normies out of work to go onto the streets to protest.

01:49:54.000 And without normies, you don't get the protests to cover for the riots.

01:50:00.000 Yeah, and it was like the summer of COVID, basically.

01:50:02.000 And you see him kind of...

01:50:06.000 Fishing these, like, a new virus, and you'll see, like, a news article, and it's just like, no one cares, dude.

01:50:11.000 Well, yeah, now it's like, if there's anything that happens this summer, or whatever will happen this summer will be lower intensity, and it'll be stuff like the firebombing of Tesla, you know, Tesla dealerships and stuff, but it won't be that every city has a big riot.

01:50:28.000 And look, man, I really, really, really hope I'm right, because if I'm wrong...

01:50:34.000 You know, then I could see significant bad results from that, you know?

01:50:38.000 All right.

01:50:38.000 Phalanx says, The charges on the New Mexico judge are pure cowardice.

01:50:42.000 Those two were providing aid and comfort to enemies of the USA, charged them with treason, and let them try to defend it.

01:50:50.000 That's interesting.

01:50:51.000 I don't know if we...

01:50:53.000 Correct me, I don't know if you know this, but can a gang or an organization be considered a wartime enemy of the United States?

01:51:03.000 Yes.

01:51:04.000 But I know we have letters of marque to target rogue groups like this, but we don't declare war on them.

01:51:09.000 It's an incursion.

01:51:11.000 It's a predatory incursion or an invasion.

01:51:13.000 It's very specific, the language that has to be used for the president to declare something like that.

01:51:18.000 This responsibility, this power was handed over in 1798 to the executive from Congress.

01:51:29.000 So that's why the president on day one declared an invasion, and he didn't declare a war.

01:51:33.000 He doesn't really have to declare a war to do that. 0.99

01:51:37.000 Spartan Theory says, Tim, I just want to thank you for using Mac's stupid science bitch argument on Ian the other night. 0.98

01:51:43.000 You know, comedy writing is dead on when it's being used in real life on a political podcast. 0.98

01:51:49.000 It's always sunny.

01:51:50.000 Indeed. 1.00

01:51:51.000 But the stupid science bitch argument is actually a literal philosophical argument that they comedically applied to Mac. 1.00

01:51:59.000 Do you know what this is? 1.00

01:52:00.000 Yeah.

01:52:00.000 You're familiar?

01:52:02.000 Mac is always sunny.

01:52:03.000 Yes, okay.

01:52:04.000 He's Christian, so he's trying to argue that the atheists are wrong because they have faith in their systems without seeing evidence all the same.

01:52:10.000 This is like standard basic knowledge philosophy.

01:52:12.000 You simply choose to believe what you want to believe.

01:52:16.000 Because most people don't actually do any of the research or the science or track the evidence.

01:52:20.000 They just think that someone telling it to them is truth, is evidence.

01:52:25.000 So that's everybody.

01:52:27.000 Yeah, I was thinking that, like, do I believe that Genghis Khan invaded Europe?

01:52:31.000 I have faith in it because of evidential proof.

01:52:34.000 I guess you would call it proof, but I don't even know.

01:52:37.000 Belief is like a form of proof, or of faith, kind of.

01:52:40.000 There's no proof for many things.

01:52:44.000 Even in court.

01:52:45.000 We often don't have proof.

01:52:46.000 We have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

01:52:49.000 That's true.

01:52:51.000 Yeah.

01:52:51.000 I don't even know how you get proof, to be completely honest.

01:52:53.000 It's a loaded term.

01:52:55.000 I mean, even now with AI, it's going to be even harder.

01:52:57.000 It's one thing if you're caught on camera doing something, but it's like, yeah, now we can fake that.

01:53:01.000 Yeah, so...

01:53:02.000 Even memory can be faked.

01:53:04.000 Like, memories aren't...

01:53:04.000 Your memories aren't perfect.

01:53:05.000 This is what Branca was telling us, Andrew Branca, that if...

01:53:09.000 And I think Angry Cops was talking about it too, witness contamination.

01:53:13.000 Terrible.

01:53:13.000 If there are two witnesses, That see the same thing, and they get put together next to each other, they will create a new memory together of what really happened.

01:53:22.000 It changes their memory of things.

01:53:25.000 First thing you do is isolate all the witnesses so that way they don't contaminate each other.

01:53:29.000 This is why I said the AI stuff that's really scary is when they take a video like Trump saying, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, because they should be condemned totally, and someone adds they to some.

01:53:41.000 And then you have two videos where he goes, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazi, the white nationalists, because some should be condemned totally.

01:53:47.000 Democrats share that version.

01:53:48.000 Republicans share the other.

01:53:50.000 And then people who are there and watch Trump speak are asked, which did he say?

01:53:54.000 And they'll go, I'm pretty sure he said some.

01:53:58.000 Because they don't like Trump or they're biased and some news outlets said it.

01:54:03.000 And it fits their bias.

01:54:05.000 Indeed.

01:54:06.000 Scary times, man.

01:54:08.000 AlphaTurkey says, only two judges.

01:54:10.000 This better be the beginning.

01:54:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:12.000 Hey, look.

01:54:13.000 Bannon said expect arrest in the summer.

01:54:14.000 We're getting arrest in spring.

01:54:16.000 Hey, there you go.

01:54:17.000 And some people are like, they're not high enough.

01:54:19.000 Oh, it's two judges.

01:54:20.000 You know, like, we're getting the ball rolling.

01:54:21.000 What do you think?

01:54:22.000 They're going to come out and arrest Biden on day one?

01:54:24.000 And they got to arrest, like, hardcore crime.

01:54:28.000 Like, this is crime.

01:54:29.000 You know, and anybody reasonable can look at this and say, this is crime.

01:54:33.000 Yeah.

01:54:34.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, you are so happy I left that mallet there.

01:54:37.000 This is Raymond's mail.

01:54:38.000 Oh, nice work, Raymond.

01:54:40.000 Yes!

01:54:40.000 I saw it on the counter and I was like, I'm gonna bang this.

01:54:44.000 Here, here.

01:54:45.000 Order.

01:54:46.000 Judge Tim.

01:54:47.000 Order.

01:54:49.000 Let's see.

01:54:52.000 Jack Rivers Poker says, these judges should get the maximum on any charge.

01:54:56.000 As a CDL driver, if I get pulled over, I automatically get a ticket for any infraction.

01:55:01.000 Reasoning is, you should have known better.

01:55:03.000 They should know better.

01:55:04.000 Indeed, they're judges.

01:55:06.000 Yeah.

01:55:08.000 Trump right now has the Supremacy Clause on his side, and this is Article 4, Clause 2, and this says it establishes the Constitution, the federal laws, treaties are supreme law of the land, and they override any conflicting state laws.

01:55:23.000 So, for instance, Wyoming can't declare war on Ireland.

01:55:28.000 They can't do that because that would violate the Supremacy Clause.

01:55:32.000 It also goes for sanctuary cities.

01:55:34.000 Those are repugnant of the Constitution as well because we have laws for naturalization and they're federal.

01:55:40.000 My question to you, Jack Rivers Poker, is that you are sitting at the button with ace-queen off-suit. 0.96

01:55:46.000 Under the gun raises 2.5 big blinds and it folds to you.

01:55:50.000 What's your play?

01:55:52.000 I'll wait.

01:55:53.000 Anyway, back to the Super Chats.

01:55:56.000 I'd check.

01:56:00.000 Just saying I'd check.

01:56:02.000 Ian, you can't check when they've raised you.

01:56:04.000 I thought they folded.

01:56:05.000 The guy before me folded?

01:56:06.000 It folds to you.

01:56:07.000 There is a raise from under the gun at 2.5 big blinds.

01:56:10.000 I can't check.

01:56:10.000 You can't.

01:56:11.000 You can fold, call, or raise.

01:56:13.000 I've got to look at my chip count before I make a decision.

01:56:15.000 Ace-queen offsuit. 0.96

01:56:17.000 That's a good and, but how many players are there?

01:56:20.000 Well, so the small and the big blinds are after you, and the under the gun has raised 2.5.

01:56:25.000 Again, I've got to defer to my chip count and do a little math in my head here.

01:56:29.000 I mean, me?

01:56:32.000 Because I like to play a little loose and silly and have fun. 0.68

01:56:35.000 I just call.

01:56:36.000 Because under the gun's strong position for a general raise, they're likely, they're going to be tight in the range.

01:56:43.000 But you also got to check the player.

01:56:44.000 But I'm saying generally, when you're talking about your pre-flop range charts, they're going to be rocking something pretty strong to go under the gun and raise right away.

01:56:51.000 I want to shout out Bellatro.

01:56:53.000 Game of the year last year.

01:56:54.000 I think you would love it.

01:56:54.000 It's a poker game.

01:56:55.000 It's like a poker strategy.

01:56:57.000 Yeah, with jokers that all do all these crazy abilities and stuff.

01:57:00.000 It's cool.

01:57:02.000 What was that?

01:57:03.000 Wrong button?

01:57:03.000 Sorry.

01:57:05.000 The show's not over yet.

01:57:06.000 Carter Banks, ladies and gentlemen.

01:57:07.000 Darth Carl says, I just purchased a Rumble subscription.

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01:57:10.000 Yeah, use promo code TIM10.

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01:57:51.000 Because if you're spending $10 a month or if you use promo code TIM10 on Rumble, you get everybody's premium content.

01:57:58.000 And there's a lot of premium content.

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01:58:20.000 You love her when she was on, and we were arguing, and everybody, all the conservatives didn't like her.

01:58:24.000 They called her a lib journalist.

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01:58:37.000 Definitely check that one out.

01:58:39.000 We had a lot of fun.

01:58:42.000 All right.

01:58:42.000 On Screen with Levine says, Hey Tim and crew, I'm doing my best to fight for Canada.

01:58:46.000 I've knocked on over 5,000 doors and I'm trying to put out some shorts at On Screen with Levine.

01:58:52.000 Good job.

01:58:53.000 Good luck saving your country, sir.

01:58:54.000 I mean that.

01:58:56.000 But...

01:58:57.000 At any rate, if you fail, we look forward to taking your land from you.

01:59:01.000 I never got more death threats than when I jokingly said we will take Canada and strip them of their political representation.

01:59:08.000 I feel for those Canadians because they're probably like, what's going to happen to us?

01:59:11.000 Kind of like Mark Carney now?

01:59:14.000 Well, considering the people think Trump is Hitler, they're probably genuinely fearful that Trump will invade and seize Canada.

01:59:19.000 Well, you know what?

01:59:20.000 Canada had their opportunity under the Articles of the Confederation, the 11th article.

01:59:24.000 It said, Canada's welcome to join us, and Canada's like, no, we'd rather be redcoats.

01:59:28.000 We asked Quebec.

01:59:30.000 People think there were only 13 colonies.

01:59:33.000 This is crazy.

01:59:33.000 There was a lot more than that.

01:59:34.000 I mean, how many were there in the Canadian territories?

01:59:37.000 There was a handful, weren't there?

01:59:39.000 And then I think the Founding Fathers went to all of the colonies that were under British control.

01:59:44.000 And Quebec was like, nah, we ain't interested.

01:59:46.000 Yeah, it was Benedict Arnold went up there and tried to take it.

01:59:48.000 Yeah, he tried to take it and he failed.

01:59:52.000 Yep.

01:59:53.000 And then basically, I think Georgia and South Carolina were like, what's all this talk about you not wanting slaves?

02:00:00.000 And Thomas Jefferson was like, well, yeah, we think slavery is bad.

02:00:03.000 And they're like, then we're out.

02:00:03.000 Okay, fine, fine, fine.

02:00:05.000 We won't complain about the slave thing and stay.

02:00:07.000 And so they originally...

02:00:10.000 Thomas Jefferson was going to include in the Declaration a complaint that the Crown had—I forgot the wording he used—but brought slaves to wage war against the colonists, against their will.

02:00:20.000 And South Carolina and Georgia were like, nah, we like slaves. 0.94

02:00:23.000 So he decided not to include it because if he did, they would not have joined the effort and there would have been no independence.

02:00:29.000 Exactly, and we needed France to win the war.

02:00:31.000 But they did include—he had brought the Hessians over and he armed the Canadians and he armed the natives.

02:00:36.000 Yep, armed the natives against us. 1.00

02:00:38.000 He even armed— Colonists against their own families and their friends.

02:00:42.000 They take them out to sea and say, okay, we're going to either throw you off this ship or you're going to go back in and unalive your entire family.

02:00:48.000 So that's 26th grievance.

02:00:50.000 To all of the It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia fans out there, and I know Tate is not because he's not old enough and he doesn't know what that is.

02:00:58.000 They had an episode where they went back in time and the joke was, I think it was Dennis and Mac in the colonial era.

02:01:05.000 And they said, we don't want independence.

02:01:06.000 We're going to get killed.

02:01:07.000 Let's draft a declaration of dependence.

02:01:09.000 That was a real thing.

02:01:11.000 It existed.

02:01:12.000 There were loyalists to the crown who wrote a declaration of dependence.

02:01:16.000 And they got people to sign it and try to go to the crown and be like, no, no, we want to stay with you.

02:01:20.000 And just nobody cares.

02:01:22.000 It's not American history.

02:01:23.000 Look, it is.

02:01:24.000 It's just a blip.

02:01:25.000 Let's see.

02:01:27.000 We'll grab one more.

02:01:28.000 Mikael Isakson says, I can't wait for the Swedish version.

02:01:35.000 We are unbelievably corrupt so much more than what people think.

02:01:38.000 It's more entrenched and hidden here.

02:01:40.000 That's why when I went to South Korea, I was...

02:01:43.000 South Korea.

02:01:43.000 When I went to Sweden, it was called the North...

02:01:47.000 People called it the North Korea of the North.

02:01:48.000 That's why I said South Korea because I was thinking when I was in South Korea.

02:01:51.000 I went there too, but they just called North Korea North Korea.

02:01:53.000 Sweden, there were people who referred to it as the North Korea of the North.

02:01:57.000 Why?

02:01:58.000 Because it is...

02:02:00.000 Like, okay, if a country could be the Stepford Wives, it's Sweden.

02:02:04.000 I don't know the Stepford Wives. 0.75

02:02:06.000 It looks pretty and it feels pretty, but it's actually really controlled.

02:02:12.000 The women were all robots. 1.00

02:02:14.000 And so they're like, everything is right this way.

02:02:17.000 And everything's uniform machine state.

02:02:20.000 Like, if you think the deep state here is bad, don't go to Sweden.

02:02:23.000 Sweden is creepy. 0.85

02:02:26.000 It's creepy. 0.68

02:02:27.000 It's like everybody blinks in unison while wearing the same clothes.

02:02:30.000 Creepy.

02:02:31.000 Yeah.

02:02:31.000 That's so creepy.

02:02:32.000 Yeah.

02:02:33.000 Very.

02:02:34.000 Alright, my friend.

02:02:34.000 Smash that like button.

02:02:35.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

02:02:37.000 I will be back tomorrow morning because I am working Saturdays now.

02:02:41.000 Because...

02:02:42.000 I don't know.

02:02:43.000 I guess...

02:02:44.000 Why not?

02:02:45.000 We're just looking for something to do?

02:02:46.000 Well, to be honest, Allison and I would go and play pool or we'd go to the casino or something.

02:02:52.000 Now...

02:02:53.000 You know, I got the boys, Andy and Brandon, are like, we got to drag Tim out, you know, but with the baby, he's not going anywhere.

02:02:58.000 And they were saying like, how do we drag you out to go to the casino with us?

02:03:01.000 And I was like, why would I want to do that?

02:03:04.000 And they were like, well, when can you come out?

02:03:06.000 And I said, I can go out whenever I want.

02:03:08.000 And they're like, oh, go to the casino with us.

02:03:09.000 And I said, why would I want to go to the casino?

02:03:11.000 I can hang out with my wife and my kid.

02:03:12.000 And they were like, oh.

02:03:14.000 So, you know, instead of doing that, I just stay home because it's more fun.

02:03:18.000 And so then I'm like, okay, if I'm going to go to bed like normal and watch movies with the family, I'll just come in and work Saturday morning and then hang out with the family.

02:03:25.000 We don't have anywhere to go or do anything that's more interesting than what we're doing.

02:03:29.000 So we're enjoying ourselves.

02:03:30.000 So follow me on X on Instagram at TimCast.

02:03:33.000 I'll be here tomorrow morning.

02:03:33.000 Josie, you want to shout anything out?

02:03:34.000 Sure.

02:03:35.000 You can follow me on X at TRHLOfficial.

02:03:38.000 Yeah, that's really it.

02:03:41.000 That's all I do.

02:03:42.000 Josie the red-headed libertarian.

02:03:43.000 Josie the red-headed libertarian.

02:03:45.000 I made a video on YouTube today about...

02:03:47.000 Jesus turning water into wine.

02:03:49.000 I read the passage in John 2 and was just trying to make sense of it.

02:03:52.000 It's a really great story.

02:03:54.000 It's kind of like a sitcom if you read the passage and just imagine them buzzing around trying to...

02:03:59.000 Mary's like, Jesus, we're out of wine.

02:04:01.000 And Jesus is like, why are you bothering me?

02:04:02.000 I'm here with my friends.

02:04:03.000 And he's like, all right, fine.

02:04:04.000 And he goes back and he's got these jugs of water and then all of a sudden it cuts to the banquet guy and he's like, this is delicious wine.

02:04:10.000 It's great.

02:04:11.000 It's hilarious.

02:04:12.000 Check it out at YouTube at Ian Crossland.

02:04:14.000 Let me know what you think.

02:04:15.000 I am PhilTheRemains on Twix.

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02:04:23.000 You know, YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, all that stuff.

02:04:26.000 Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

02:04:28.000 We will see you all tomorrow morning.

02:04:30.000 I'll have some segments up and then we're back with Timcast IRL on Monday.

02:04:33.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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