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00:00:59.000 They're dropping like flies.

00:01:01.000 Graham Platner has a new sexual assault accusation that's dropped today.

00:01:06.000 He's lost the support of Emma Viglund.

00:01:08.000 He's lost the support of Ro Khanna.

00:01:11.000 He's lost the support of Ruben Gallego.

00:01:13.000 All of these people have been big supporters of Platner, and he is losing them all.

00:01:18.000 So it seems like the end is near.

00:01:21.000 He's probably going to drop out.

00:01:23.000 He said that he's taking time to reflect right now.

00:01:26.000 And we all know that that means that in the next.

00:01:28.000 Couple days, he's going to officially suspend his campaign.

00:01:31.000 So, we're going to talk about that tonight.

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00:01:53.000 Spencer Pratt released a video this weekend and it's gone pretty viral.

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00:03:35.000 Rollo Tommasi, the author of the Rational Mail series of books.

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00:04:48.000 So we're going to get right into it from Politico.

00:04:51.000 Plattner says he's taking time to reflect on his candidacy.

00:04:55.000 The Maine Democratic Senate nominee posted the statement after Politico published allegations that he forced a woman to have sex with him, which he denies.

00:05:03.000 Maine U.S. Senate Democrat nominee Graham Platner said Monday that he is taking the time to reflect on the best path forward for his candidacy, minutes after Politico reported that a woman who dated him said he forced her to have sex with him.

00:05:15.000 Platner denied the allegation, but he said in a roughly two minute video that was posted to social media on Monday that he is mindful of the political reality and the reporting will inflict.

00:05:25.000 Regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting, But mindful of the political reality it will inflict, we are taking the time to reflect on the best path forward, Platner said.

00:05:33.000 It's the first time that Platner, despite a series of scandals ranging from controversial online posts to earlier accusations about his behavior with women to a tattoo with Nazi ties, it's not a tattoo with Nazi ties, it is an actual Nazi tattoo, has indicated that he was considering exiting the race.

00:05:51.000 Look, Graham Platner has gone, has got like the full gambit, right?

00:05:55.000 He's got a Nazi tattoo, he's got multiple allegations.

00:05:59.000 He's talked about sexual assault. 0.94

00:06:02.000 He would sexually assault someone. 0.80

00:06:03.000 I'm being nice about that. 0.97

00:06:04.000 He would sexually assault someone that broke into his house to assert dominance.

00:06:08.000 We're not saying that word.

00:06:09.000 Yeah, well, I mean, the stream just started, so.

00:06:13.000 You know, you've got to give it a few minutes.

00:06:15.000 To exert dominance. 0.97

00:06:17.000 Yeah, to exert dominance.

00:06:18.000 To exert dominance over his house. 0.99

00:06:19.000 Not in a gay way, but to exert dominance and show them to be a gay person. 1.00

00:06:23.000 Forced copulation. 1.00

00:06:25.000 Yeah, right?

00:06:26.000 And to see that it's taken so long for Democrats to actually abandon this guy with all of these allegations.

00:06:34.000 If it was a conservative, obviously, even a hint of any of these individual allegations, and they'd be all over the place.

00:06:42.000 But he tends to get behind him in the first place when he's got a Nazi tattoo.

00:06:45.000 I don't know how that.

00:06:46.000 Is he like the only thing going in May?

00:06:48.000 Like they need him to be the dude?

00:06:51.000 They're looking at other people now, if I understand rightly.

00:06:53.000 Yeah, I know.

00:06:55.000 You know, look, Collins is an incumbent. 0.99

00:06:58.000 She's consistently overperforms compared to what the polls tend to read. 0.99

00:07:07.000 She's not.

00:07:08.000 A strong Republican, but her position is there, kind of doing what Manchin did, you know, just holding the seat so that way a progressive or a Democrat don't take it.

00:07:20.000 She's not a reliable Republican vote, but she's better than any Democrat.

00:07:24.000 She's a placeholder.

00:07:25.000 So if Graham Platner is out and the Democrats can actually bring in a new person that's better than Platner and take the spot, obviously that's a bad thing, but I don't know why.

00:07:39.000 They were holding on to Platner.

00:07:40.000 He doesn't have anything in particular that makes him seem really all that insightful or anything.

00:07:46.000 If you look at the details of this Politico story, all right, they're in an off and on relationship.

00:07:53.000 He showed up at her house intoxicated, and it sounds like he wanted to have sex that night and she didn't, right? 0.65

00:07:59.000 And if this is coming out like this against him, he's got to be looking at, oh crap, if this is what's getting me in trouble, what else is going to come out?

00:08:08.000 Not to dismiss what he did or anything like that, but if you look at the details of it, If that was all there was that he was worried about, you could have tried to explain your way out of that a little bit.

00:08:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:19.000 I've been reading, you know, obviously on X and stuff, and there is possibly more stuff coming later.

00:08:26.000 Gotta think so.

00:08:28.000 If there is other stuff out there, I mean, he's gotta get out.

00:08:31.000 Yeah, I gotta think there's more.

00:08:33.000 I think if this was all he had, I think he would try to fight it.

00:08:35.000 I think.

00:08:36.000 Obviously, he's controversial, but just to steal Man Platner a little bit, that tattoo, Nazi adjacent, Nazi connected.

00:08:42.000 It's a Prussian, an old.

00:08:44.000 From the 1700s, I was just reading a little about it.

00:08:46.000 I think it was, who was it?

00:08:47.000 Frederick?

00:08:47.000 Frederick the Great's one of his symbols from way back, cavalry tattoo.

00:08:51.000 And then the Nazis ended up using it, taking it, and the SS co opted. 0.77

00:08:56.000 The same kind of thing can be said for swastikas. 0.79

00:08:59.000 They existed in India and in other places before. 0.61

00:09:03.000 Once the Nazis touch it, you kind of can't get that stink off.

00:09:07.000 How old is this guy? 0.87

00:09:09.000 I don't know exactly.

00:09:09.000 I think he's in his mid 40s now.

00:09:11.000 He's in his mid 40s?

00:09:12.000 I guess he's a GWAT veteran.

00:09:13.000 I was going to say, how do you know the history well enough that you will say, you know what?

00:09:18.000 I really want that on my body.

00:09:20.000 And he says that he's a history buff.

00:09:22.000 He says that he's a.

00:09:23.000 A fan of World War II history, and he's very interested in that stuff.

00:09:27.000 So, the idea that he didn't know, you know.

00:09:31.000 But yeah, like the idea that he was the best option, and now they're scrambling.

00:09:38.000 In fact, if you look at Kalchi, right, the odds of him dropping out have skyrocketed.

00:09:45.000 Clearly, it makes perfect sense for him to get out now.

00:09:48.000 But there's also, I don't have it here, but the odds of Susan Collins losing have actually gone up now.

00:09:56.000 Even though there's no one.

00:09:58.000 That's been named as a Democrat.

00:10:01.000 It looks like the Democrats kind of still have the edge over Collins.

00:10:06.000 So essentially, the bet is anybody but this guy will beat that.

00:10:09.000 Yeah, I mean, like I said, Collins tends to overperform what the polls say, but that doesn't change the fact that, like, I mean, you know, like, how do you say that someone that isn't.

00:10:24.000 I'm just kind of saying that he's got a ticket.

00:10:26.000 It blows me away.

00:10:27.000 I couldn't imagine.

00:10:28.000 But the idea that, you know, how do you say that a nameless Democrat?

00:10:33.000 We don't even know who it would be.

00:10:35.000 Would be better than Susan Collins.

00:10:35.000 Would be better.

00:10:37.000 Well, they're taking bets, obviously.

00:10:39.000 Well, yeah, the prediction market.

00:10:40.000 Prediction market is.

00:10:42.000 So Town Hall had a video of, what was her name?

00:10:48.000 Jenny Rassica?

00:10:52.000 French.

00:10:53.000 She said, I didn't want to have to violate this huge level of privacy to my own life to be able to infer that this person is not honest and trustworthy.

00:11:01.000 I felt really protective of my own privacy and thought the.

00:11:04.000 Thought this whole process and it got to a point where my privacy was no longer going to happen, and that was when I kind of just made the decision that, like, I'm going to say my piece and get it out there.

00:11:15.000 I don't know.

00:11:15.000 Can we play this?

00:11:16.000 No, we can't play this.

00:11:17.000 If you open it in a new tab, if you right click the video, uh, I've actually already done it.

00:11:23.000 Open the tab so when the New York Times story came out, you were in it, um, but you didn't go as far in that story as you are today, yeah.

00:11:36.000 Why not?

00:11:38.000 Um.

00:11:38.000 I didn't want to.

00:11:40.000 I didn't want to have to violate this huge level of privacy to my own life to be able to infer that this person is not honest and trustworthy.

00:11:50.000 I felt really protective of my own privacy throughout this whole process.

00:11:54.000 And it got to a point where my privacy was no longer going to happen.

00:11:59.000 And that was when I kind of just made the decision that, like, I'm going to say my piece and get it out there.

00:12:06.000 I had tried to give the impression that something.

00:12:09.000 You know, worse happened.

00:12:10.000 And that's when it was like, I refused to comment further.

00:12:13.000 You definitely eluded.

00:12:15.000 So is that common where people say, oh, you know, I don't want to talk about it because it's a privacy issue when it comes to something that is clearly going to come out?

00:12:28.000 You know, I mean, the guy's running for Senate.

00:12:29.000 He's running for the upper house.

00:12:30.000 He's not running for, you know, just a congressperson spot, but he's running for a Senate spot.

00:12:37.000 I feel like the idea that she would be like, oh, I don't want to because of my privacy, that just Well, it's got to come out in August or sometime around August.

00:12:48.000 If you notice, like most of the major scandals in an election season usually come out like late July or August because they need some time to sort of like ferment.

00:12:56.000 They need the story needs to sort of percolate a little bit so that you remember it when you go to the polls in November.

00:13:02.000 So a lot of the times, whenever you see, and this could be, you know, a general election or it could be just midterms and stuff like that, too, you'll see that a lot of the scandals were like, I think it was, was it in 2022?

00:13:15.000 That was sort of like the women's year back then because then you had, was it Ruth Bader Ginsburg and all that stuff.

00:13:21.000 You had Roe v. Wade getting kicked back to the states during that time.

00:13:25.000 And so they had to, the leak, the quote unquote leak from SCOTUS happened like in March or April of 2022.

00:13:33.000 And then they actually did the ruling right around July or August.

00:13:37.000 So now you've got that sort of percolating right there.

00:13:39.000 Remember what happened, ladies? 0.99

00:13:40.000 You've got to go to the polls and vote.

00:13:43.000 So when you're looking at scandals or you're looking at any kind of controversy, or if they want to change the horse mid race, they're going to do it right around July or August.

00:13:54.000 So, what I'm thinking here, and the more I look into the story, the more I'm reading as we're going along here.

00:14:02.000 If it's a guy that they want to get rid of, especially if he's already got something in the backfield, that's when the ex girlfriend is going to come forward and say, you know, he did this to me.

00:14:11.000 Or I remember back in, you know, 2018 when this particular thing happened.

00:14:17.000 And now, oh my gosh, his character comes into play and everything else.

00:14:22.000 And particularly like male candidates are very easy to sort of, you know, all you got to do is mention a sex scandal, and that's pretty much it for you.

00:14:30.000 What was the guy?

00:14:31.000 Was it Cuomo during COVID when he was somewhat responsible for the senior citizens?

00:14:41.000 That wasn't enough to get him removed from office.

00:14:45.000 But a sex scandal was.

00:14:48.000 And so all you got to do is just lean on the sex.

00:14:51.000 To your point, Joe Biden dropped out of the race at the end of July.

00:14:57.000 I was thinking the same thing when Biden dropped out.

00:14:59.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:15:01.000 I suppose they do have enough.

00:15:03.000 It's still early July, but I suppose they do have enough time to give a replacement candidate some kind of momentum, especially if they're thinking, oh, look, if we get rid of this guy, the odds are that this new person will do better against Susan Collins.

00:15:03.000 Time.

00:15:20.000 But I don't know.

00:15:22.000 I kind of feel like they have to have someone that's going to knock it out of the park, or else they're going to be facing an incumbent.

00:15:28.000 You're facing someone that's got.

00:15:30.000 I'm really wondering who they're going to replace him with.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:33.000 Because that'll let you know what, like, all the stuff that we're, like, sort of like trying to, you know, speculate on right now.

00:15:39.000 You'll see whoever the replacement is.

00:15:41.000 You go, oh, that's why they did that.

00:15:43.000 Yeah.

00:15:44.000 They really wanted this person and that they couldn't get him to commit until now.

00:15:48.000 I haven't heard any names of anybody that would be, you know, looking to take his place.

00:15:55.000 But, like I said, they've got to be a home run if they're going to be able to actually jump in there and get some momentum.

00:16:02.000 Because the fact that we don't have a name, that there isn't someone that is clearly.

00:16:07.000 Ready to take the chair.

00:16:08.000 I was going to say, the chat's saying it's going to be Janet Mills.

00:16:10.000 Janet Mills?

00:16:11.000 I don't know.

00:16:12.000 I'm not familiar with.

00:16:14.000 I'm not that familiar with Maine politics.

00:16:17.000 I'm sorry to say. 0.78

00:16:18.000 But yeah, I was going to say, is that that's, again, you're probably going to see a woman take that spot. 0.79

00:16:18.000 I live in Las Vegas. 0.79

00:16:25.000 So that you're. 0.99

00:16:26.000 Because she's the governor now.

00:16:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:27.000 She's the governor? 1.00

00:16:28.000 So, I mean, I don't know if she.

00:16:30.000 She could step in.

00:16:31.000 I guess she could.

00:16:32.000 She could, yeah.

00:16:33.000 It's happened before.

00:16:34.000 So maybe that's possible.

00:16:34.000 Yeah.

00:16:36.000 She's definitely got name recognition in Maine.

00:16:38.000 True. 1.00

00:16:39.000 So.

00:16:40.000 So, if you believe what the Platiners campfired back with, saying that this was being done politically motivated by out of state establishment, right? 0.92

00:16:50.000 So, they mean the Republican Party, obviously. 0.76

00:16:52.000 So, that would mean that if that was true, let's just pretend hypothetically that's true, then you would have to assume that the Republicans don't, you know, the highest amongst the Republicans don't think that there is anyone that will do better than him.

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:05.000 Because if there was someone weighing in the wings, otherwise, just go against Platiners. 1.00

00:17:08.000 I mean, yeah, it seems to me that with all this stuff, the Republicans would. 1.00

00:17:12.000 Probably prefer that he stay in.

00:17:14.000 Well, that's what you would think, but did this woman come out of the woodwork just coincidentally?

00:17:19.000 Or, I mean, what do we think?

00:17:21.000 According to Planner's camp, it was politically motivated by somebody out of the state.

00:17:24.000 Yeah, I mean, look.

00:17:25.000 What else are they going to say, though, I guess?

00:17:27.000 Yeah, I mean, like I said, with all this stuff coming out, I just kind of imagine the Republicans would be like, no, keep him in, man.

00:17:32.000 Well, now, yeah.

00:17:34.000 Well, even before, you know, I like, I know that he wasn't doing particularly well against Collins, if I understand correctly.

00:17:44.000 It wasn't like it was clear that he was going to be the winner.

00:17:48.000 And he just has so much baggage.

00:17:52.000 That's the kind of thing you want.

00:17:54.000 You can get onto TV and just talk, oh, this guy has this, this guy has it, and just ram it down people's throats.

00:18:01.000 Because the Republicans can't really afford to lose any seats.

00:18:04.000 They've got a razor thin majority.

00:18:06.000 I was going to ask how important is this seat for the Republicans in the midterms?

00:18:12.000 Is it the difference between holding that?

00:18:15.000 No, no, I think they've got like, I think it's like 53 Republicans versus, you know, 48 or 47 senators.

00:18:23.000 And then you've got the vice president to break any ties or anything.

00:18:26.000 But the Republicans in the Senate, like, they're not particularly reliable.

00:18:30.000 You know, you can't even get the SAVE Act.

00:18:32.000 The SAVE Act is the thing that everybody kind of points to now the fact that even though this is extremely popular with the American people, they can't get this passed.

00:18:40.000 And it's because Republicans in the Senate won't actually bring it up for a vote or they vote it down, which is mind blowing.

00:18:47.000 They're trying to attach it to the NDAA.

00:18:49.000 Which is which the part of the NDAA wants to basically synchronize American and Israeli defense strategy, like trade secrets and things like that.

00:18:58.000 So it's a big change to military strategy, and they're trying to attach the SAVE Act to that.

00:19:03.000 They try to that's just they're doing it because the NDAA has to get passed.

00:19:07.000 It's the National Defense Authorization Act, so it's how you allot money to defend the country.

00:19:12.000 And it's one of those things where it's a big omnibus bill, they put a bunch of stuff in it.

00:19:16.000 That's the way that they've done multiple things, the Smith Munt Modernization Act.

00:19:22.000 Was attached to the NDAA in 2012.

00:19:25.000 And that's what ostensibly gave the government the authority to propagandize Americans because beforehand, any information that the State Department produced could not be disseminated in the United States.

00:19:40.000 It had to be for external use and they couldn't do that kind of stuff.

00:19:43.000 Then the Smith Modernization Act made it legal for the government to disseminate it in the U.S.

00:19:49.000 And that kind of stuff is, they do that with omnibus bills all the time.

00:19:53.000 So that.

00:19:54.000 Putting the SAVE Act into the NDAA makes sense in that they kind of have to approve it.

00:20:00.000 They kind of have to vote to pass it, or else you're not going to be able to fund basically national defense.

00:20:06.000 So that's why they're doing it.

00:20:07.000 Looking at the chat here, they're saying that Janet Mills actually ran in the primaries, but she lost in the primaries.

00:20:13.000 Well, I mean, this might be the hatchet job that the Dems are doing to get him out to put her in the primaries.

00:20:21.000 We can't get her in the primaries.

00:20:22.000 Let's get this guy out of here now that we've got all we got to do is find a.

00:20:25.000 Find somebody to use.

00:20:27.000 It's worth noting, Scandal.

00:20:28.000 I'm not too far touched.

00:20:29.000 I mean, is your dude okay?

00:20:30.000 Yeah, no problem.

00:20:31.000 Janet Mills is 78 years old as well.

00:20:35.000 So, like, you know, we hear people talk about this.

00:20:37.000 I'm not saying she's the best cat. 0.99

00:20:39.000 You know, people talk all the time, you know, we got to get these boomers out of government and stuff.

00:20:44.000 And yet, if it does end up being Janet Mills.

00:20:46.000 Well, maybe it's to the point where, like, people, like, they're, I don't know, they're running the numbers and the numbers don't look good.

00:20:53.000 And so they're thinking, okay, well, this guy's going to lose.

00:20:56.000 Who do we have that we could have got in there?

00:20:57.000 Well, obviously, Janet Mills couldn't win in the primaries, but this guy did.

00:21:02.000 And then, so he's in there.

00:21:04.000 They get him out with a sex scandal and put Janet Mills in, even though she lost a primary.

00:21:07.000 Well, I mean, I understand the, the, Thought process, but like, I it seems like all this stuff, like, when you get enough smoke, there's probably fire.

00:21:15.000 So, this guy probably has done a good portion.

00:21:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:18.000 So, the seeing the establishment kind of you know, people like Rohanna, like I said, and Gallego, and even like I said, Emma Viglund, which that kind of surprised me.

00:21:29.000 You know, she's she's pretty far left, and seeing her kind of withdraw any kind of support, you know, it's not just the establishment that's doing it.

00:21:39.000 You know, it's it's across the board, the progressives, the establishment.

00:21:43.000 I think even Hassan Piker said he's cooked.

00:21:44.000 You know, and Hassan Piker, yes.

00:21:46.000 On his stream today, he was saying some stuff like, oh, yeah, this guy's got to get out of here.

00:21:51.000 And he's like, it's a triumph. 0.97

00:21:53.000 You've lost Hassan Piker.

00:21:54.000 Yeah, right.

00:21:56.000 You've lost your bit.

00:21:57.000 There's very few things that he doesn't approve of when it comes to getting the outcome that he wants.

00:22:03.000 Progressive politics, yes.

00:22:05.000 Well, liberal is, he's not a fan of liberals either.

00:22:08.000 That guy's a commie.

00:22:09.000 But let's listen to a little bit of what Graham Platt had to say.

00:22:13.000 I wanted to directly address the troubling, serious, and false allegations against me.

00:22:19.000 Any accusation of non consensual behavior is categorically false.

00:22:24.000 Over the last 10 months, I have been deeply humbled by the faith Mainers have put in me.

00:22:30.000 You have welcomed me into your homes, into your places of work, into your restaurants, into your houses of worship. 0.93

00:22:37.000 You have shown that a different kind of politics, one that puts the interests of people over corporations, is not just possible, but is inevitable.

00:22:47.000 This movement we have built, the largest volunteer base in the history of Maine politics, The hundreds of thousands of grassroots donors and the supporters across the ideological spectrum, we were united in a love of Maine, a belief that our politics must change, and a focus on defeating Susan Collins.

00:23:07.000 So, regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting, but mindful of the political reality it will inflict, we are taking the time to reflect on the best path forward.

00:23:17.000 The state that I love.

00:23:18.000 Yeah, you know what that means.

00:23:20.000 Yeah, he hasn't said that line taking the time to reflect on the best path forward.

00:23:25.000 It's worth noting also, the DSA has pulled support for him too.

00:23:25.000 For that's pretty clear.

00:23:29.000 He was a DSA, you know, favorite because he's got very progressive politics and stuff, and they've even pulled their support.

00:23:38.000 So I like how he started out with non consensual. 0.97

00:23:41.000 Yeah, I did actually have sex with a bird. 0.69

00:23:44.000 I was thinking the exact same thing. 0.63

00:23:47.000 She said, Okay, that's what I was thinking the exact same thing.

00:23:51.000 And you also wonder, was he in politics five years ago?

00:23:53.000 Do we know?

00:23:54.000 No, you know what I mean?

00:23:56.000 You just wonder if you knew you were going to politics, like. 1.00

00:23:59.000 You wouldn't be getting wasted showing up at girls' houses. 1.00

00:24:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:02.000 He, I don't think that he was.

00:24:03.000 This is going to come out one day.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, I don't think that he was, you know, five, ten years ago.

00:24:07.000 I don't think he had any idea that he would be in politics because he's, you know, he's a drinker and he's a partier.

00:24:16.000 He don't have a Nazi tattoo for nothing.

00:24:16.000 Oh, man.

00:24:18.000 You know, he's got a lot of weird stuff in his pants.

00:24:22.000 No, I was really hammered that night.

00:24:24.000 There's a reason.

00:24:25.000 There's a reason I will never go into politics.

00:24:28.000 I think there's a lot of people who won't because of that.

00:24:30.000 I never.

00:24:32.000 Remember when Herman Cain ran and they put all this stuff on him?

00:24:35.000 This guy was a clean cut guy until he wasn't, you know what I mean? 0.86

00:24:38.000 Shoot.

00:24:39.000 I mean, nine, nine, nine.

00:24:42.000 They can find stuff on anyone.

00:24:44.000 You can look at the biggest, basically, Boy Scout, Mitt Romney, who was about as pure as the driven snow, about as pure as you can be and be in politics.

00:24:54.000 And they still were like, oh, he's a Nazi.

00:24:57.000 And it was a big deal.

00:24:59.000 They were calling him a Nazi and saying that he's doing all these terrible things.

00:25:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:03.000 His wife is like the president of Heinz ketchup or something.

00:25:06.000 Heinz, Heinz. 1.00

00:25:07.000 He's just ridiculous. 1.00

00:25:07.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:25:10.000 So, you know, Ruben Gallego has pulled his support.

00:25:14.000 He said the allegations against Graham Plattner are troubling and deeply serious.

00:25:18.000 I'm rescinding my endorsement.

00:25:20.000 And like I said, Emma Viglund.

00:25:21.000 So, we're going to listen to what Emma Viglund.

00:25:23.000 Come on.

00:25:23.000 I'm waiting for this one.

00:25:24.000 I've heard batteries about this.

00:25:25.000 Hey, everybody.

00:25:26.000 I just wanted to jump on here to address the serious, credible allegations against Graham Plattner.

00:25:34.000 This story is devastating.

00:25:36.000 I believe the victim here.

00:25:38.000 I think that Graham should drop out of the race.

00:25:41.000 He has betrayed many, many supporters by not being forthright about this.

00:25:47.000 I would include myself in that.

00:25:50.000 I believed his campaign when they said that there was nothing new coming out.

00:25:55.000 And it looks like an awful, awful accusation, an incredible one, has come out.

00:26:00.000 Now, this movement has never been about one individual.

00:26:05.000 Any candidate that takes up the mantle here should share Graham's belief or the campaign's belief in ending complicity in the genocide in Gaza, Medicare for all, taxing billionaires, and more.

00:26:17.000 But obviously, this is a devastating development, and we'll be talking about it more on the majority report tomorrow.

00:26:23.000 It's so interesting to me that the genocide in Gaza or the pretendicide in Gaza is the top issue for so many people from the left.

00:26:34.000 Like the idea that this war 6,000 miles away is what the DSA really cares about the most, and it doesn't really have a significant effect on Americans' day to day lives.

00:26:34.000 Right?

00:26:47.000 About kitchen table issues. 0.98

00:26:49.000 If you're out there like, hey, look, she brings up Medicare for all.

00:26:53.000 Whether you're for that or against that, that's something that would materially affect people, right?

00:26:57.000 The cost of living, if you can pay for your groceries, if your dollar feels like it goes as far as it should, that's something that is going to affect Americans.

00:27:05.000 That's something that your average normal Americans are going to go and vote about.

00:27:10.000 The idea that the war in the Middle East that the U.S. isn't even technically fighting, you can make arguments about how much the U.S. supports Israel and stuff.

00:27:21.000 The U.S. isn't directly involved in.

00:27:23.000 That's the leading issue for so many people in the DSA.

00:27:27.000 Whether you're talking about, you know, Mom Dhani or you're talking about the Seattle mayor, they all are talking about how important this thing is.

00:27:33.000 And I don't think that the average American actually has that on their mind.

00:27:38.000 Maybe not the average, but I understand that they're concerned, like, if we do have a global empire that's basically colonizing and taking over the world, are we okay genociding the people that live there as we take the territory? 0.78

00:27:52.000 Like, Repopulate them, kill them?

00:27:54.000 Like, what do we do with the people that live on the place we take? 0.98

00:27:57.000 I just don't think that the U.S. is doing it, right?

00:28:00.000 Like, we don't have Americans fighting in the Middle East or in Gaza, right?

00:28:06.000 Like, the U.S. is definitely fighting or was fighting a war over Iran, right?

00:28:11.000 Like, we're U.S. military planes are dropping bombs on Iran.

00:28:14.000 That's a real thing.

00:28:16.000 But the fight between the Palestinians in Gaza and the Israelis, that's really not.

00:28:23.000 The US's issue.

00:28:25.000 I mean, I'm not particularly concerned with how that war over there is going because it doesn't really have an effect on me.

00:28:35.000 You know, at least not on my day to day.

00:28:36.000 But that's a big deal for the DSA.

00:28:38.000 DSA is huge.

00:28:39.000 It's huge.

00:28:40.000 It's.

00:28:42.000 Do you get the.

00:28:43.000 Maybe I'm wrong on this, but do you get the impression that they're sort of coattailing what's going on, sort of like in the conservatives or the big sort of schism between, you know, you support Israel, you don't support Israel?

00:28:55.000 Do you think that they feel like they have to say that sort of worked our way into that narrative just so they can remain somewhat relevant?

00:29:01.000 Well, I think when it comes to the issue with the Palestinians in Gaza and with Israel, they look at Israel. 0.87

00:29:08.000 As the oppressor, Palestinians are the oppressed. 0.90

00:29:12.000 It's a Marxist power dynamic. 0.75

00:29:14.000 It's anti colonialism.

00:29:15.000 They say that the state of Israel is a colonial experiment.

00:29:20.000 They consider the Israelis, they say, look, those are Israelis from Europe.

00:29:25.000 Those guys are from Europe. 0.97

00:29:26.000 They're white people that have gone down there to oppress brown people. 0.79

00:29:31.000 Now, I personally don't think that that's quite accurate, although there are plenty of people that were in Europe that moved down to Israel. 0.68

00:29:38.000 As an.

00:29:40.000 As an election cycle narrative, is that just something that they're trying to like sort of insert themselves into just so that, hey, we're part of this conversation too?

00:29:49.000 Well, I think that it genuinely is a big deal to them because they look at it as, you know, a.

00:29:55.000 They look at Israel as a proxy for the U.S. They'll say, oh, Israel controls the U.S. and blah, blah, blah.

00:30:02.000 They'll make that argument, even though I don't find that argument compelling, but they'll say that Israel is a proxy for the U.S. and the U.S. is. 0.99

00:30:11.000 You know, telling Israel it's okay to wipe out these poor brown people. 0.87

00:30:16.000 It's about being anti, at the end of the day, it's about being anti American. 0.98

00:30:21.000 It's anti Western because they look at Israel as a Western style nation. 0.55

00:30:26.000 It's the Western influence that Israel represents out there, that represents America, and, you know, Al Shabaab was a terrorist group, everything going on with that. 0.90

00:30:35.000 But that's always been the case. 0.91

00:30:37.000 This has been the case for decades and decades, right?

00:30:39.000 But what hasn't been the case to me, at least in my observation, is the last couple years, this.

00:30:44.000 Anti Israel sentiment in the United States.

00:30:48.000 I don't think that existed before a couple years ago, not vocally like this at least.

00:30:51.000 In the late 1900s, they called it Jew hate and they rebranded it.

00:30:55.000 They're like, we got to figure out a better term because this sounds so bad.

00:30:59.000 So they started saying anti Semitism.

00:31:01.000 That was the new word they used.

00:31:03.000 So it's been around, not really.

00:31:05.000 I mean, it has been around the US, but I think mass media has now given a megaphone to minority ideas, sometimes like that.

00:31:14.000 When I hear anti Semitism, do you equate that specifically to Israel?

00:31:18.000 I personally don't because Semite means it's a desert person. 1.00

00:31:21.000 So that whole area is filled with Semites. 0.99

00:31:23.000 Then I'm looking at it too generically. 0.99

00:31:23.000 Okay. 0.99

00:31:25.000 When I hear anti Semitism, I just mean you're, you know, racist or, you know, discriminated against a Jewish person.

00:31:30.000 I wouldn't even relate it to Israel personally.

00:31:32.000 I didn't know Semite means desert. 0.60

00:31:34.000 So they are talking specifically about Israel, I guess.

00:31:36.000 One thing I did catch when her, so the first thing out of her mouth was, I believe the victim.

00:31:40.000 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 Immediately.

00:31:41.000 I like all that.

00:31:42.000 Dog whistle right there, boy. 1.00

00:31:43.000 Just to clarify, Graham went over this chick's house.

00:31:46.000 He was like, I want to get it on.

00:31:46.000 He was drunk.

00:31:47.000 She was like, no.

00:31:48.000 And he was like, well, we're going to do it anyway.

00:31:50.000 And then forced his.

00:31:51.000 The story is he forced his way into the house and she was screaming, Stop, and he beat her up?

00:31:56.000 Or did she just acquiesce?

00:31:58.000 I didn't see her say that in the article.

00:32:00.000 It sounded like they were off and on where maybe they had sex consensually the night before.

00:32:04.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:05.000 So that's.

00:32:06.000 I'm not defending the guy, but I'm just saying, you look at the details of the article, and that's why I'm saying this might have been the tip of the iceberg with other people coming out of the freaking woodwork.

00:32:17.000 Because if I were him and this was it, and it's he say, she say, and they were.

00:32:21.000 Especially if they were still sleeping together after the incident.

00:32:23.000 Did he bathe after the incident?

00:32:24.000 See, the other thing is, like, when you see stuff like this come out, and, like, all of everybody's denouncing him, like, within the day.

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:30.000 Because they have violence.

00:32:31.000 It's 24 hours.

00:32:31.000 48 hours, right?

00:32:32.000 Yeah.

00:32:33.000 And it's like, that's what makes me think that this was like, this is part of the takedown.

00:32:39.000 Everybody, hey, okay, we're all colluding to take this dude.

00:32:41.000 Oh, perfect.

00:32:42.000 We got our reason.

00:32:43.000 Yeah, I think that this is kind of just the straw that broke the horse's back because he had allegations of sending illicit messages to other women.

00:32:54.000 I think they were like, he was sexting back and forth with women while he was married.

00:33:00.000 He had a kick account, so people are questioning.

00:33:03.000 Yeah, he had a kick account.

00:33:04.000 You can count to a Peter Wick rash.

00:33:06.000 You're not going to be in your office.

00:33:09.000 You're correct.

00:33:11.000 Yes.

00:33:11.000 Sorry.

00:33:11.000 Was he propositioning children?

00:33:13.000 There's the, you know, he made jokes about the tattoo.

00:33:16.000 Even when he swears that he didn't know, he made jokes about the tattoo being a Nazi tattoo to other people.

00:33:22.000 So it's just a cascade of bad stuff that the guy's been involved in.

00:33:28.000 And this kind of thing, it's like, all right, we got to find something.

00:33:31.000 We got to pull the rider.

00:33:32.000 Yeah.

00:33:33.000 What gets me is that I don't know if it was Polymarket or Calche.

00:33:36.000 It said that he's.

00:33:37.000 His, him dropping out, the odds are up that he's going to drop out.

00:33:40.000 And therefore, the odds are greater that the Republicans are going to lose.

00:33:44.000 Meaning, wait, I want to say it in a way that people understand.

00:33:47.000 They're indicating that him dropping out is actually a good thing for that party because they thought that he was a bad candidate.

00:33:53.000 That's very strange to me.

00:33:54.000 So it just reinforces what Susan said.

00:33:56.000 Susan Collins is, I mean, like, she's, I don't know how long she's been there, but she's been in, you know, the senator from Maine for a long time.

00:34:03.000 78, right.

00:34:04.000 Was it?

00:34:05.000 78.

00:34:05.000 Was it 78?

00:34:06.000 How old she is?

00:34:07.000 I don't know.

00:34:08.000 But she's been there forever.

00:34:09.000 Oh, yes.

00:34:10.000 Susan Collins is old.

00:34:11.000 Yes.

00:34:11.000 I don't know how long.

00:34:12.000 How long has Susan Collins been in this?

00:34:18.000 Well, wait a minute.

00:34:18.000 I didn't type in Susan Collins.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, 97 is when she.

00:34:29.000 97 is when she first won.

00:34:31.000 So there you go.

00:34:31.000 I mean, she's been there for 20 years.

00:34:34.000 29 years.

00:34:35.000 So in the Platner campaign, All right, or the Plattner's statement from their camp.

00:34:41.000 These allegations are very serious, and Graham vigorously denies them.

00:34:46.000 They are also coached and coordinated by out of state establishment operatives.

00:34:52.000 What's interesting is that that could be either party, I guess.

00:34:55.000 They didn't say either party.

00:34:58.000 Wouldn't that be something?

00:35:00.000 I mean, look, it could be as far as the idea that it was an op to get him out.

00:35:07.000 Look, he is a DSA guy, and the DSA has been racking up wins.

00:35:13.000 So, I mean, I don't know that I have an opinion on it, but it could well be that the established Democrats are like, all right, if we can get rid of this guy and get someone that is a more establishment Democrat, that would be better for the party.

00:35:27.000 Because the DSA has been just, you know, gangbusters winning.

00:35:31.000 They've won, you know, they won like three primaries in New York or what have you, maybe even more.

00:35:37.000 They've got the, like I said, the Seattle mayor.

00:35:39.000 They've got Momdani.

00:35:40.000 They've got.

00:35:41.000 You know, they had AOC, even though she's kind of looking at the big picture and her career. 0.56

00:35:51.000 Yeah, she's pop culture, is what she is. 0.99

00:35:53.000 Yeah, so, but she got in because of the Justice Democrats and the DSA support. 0.99

00:35:58.000 So it could be that the Democrats are at the DNC is like, look, we have to do something about these candidates because they're going to take over the party.

00:36:07.000 You've got people like Hakeem Jeffries saying, you know, oh, maybe we do need some fresh blood.

00:36:11.000 About the only person that has a reasonable take.

00:36:14.000 On the DSA and the far left in the Democrat Party right now is Fetterman.

00:36:21.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:36:21.000 You know, he's like, these guys are crazy communists. 0.97

00:36:24.000 There are a handful of Democrats. 0.71

00:36:26.000 I think they got like 15 people out of all the house to form a group that are like, no, we're actually pro capitalist.

00:36:34.000 We are against socialism and we are pro America.

00:36:39.000 We're actually patriotic.

00:36:41.000 Most of the DSA is not.

00:36:43.000 They do not like America.

00:36:45.000 Just as a baseline, it's like, we think America is overall bad.

00:36:50.000 And Democrats know that when you go to the general and you've got people that, In their past, they're just like, I hate this country.

00:36:59.000 I use the flag to wipe my hands and that kind of stuff.

00:37:03.000 They know that your normal Americans that, you know, get about 30 minutes to an hour worth of political content a week that are worried about their kids and about their jobs and about the normal things that normal people are worried about that are not particularly plugged in.

00:37:20.000 They know if they hear, oh, this person hates America, they're going to be like, really?

00:37:24.000 Because generally, people don't want to hate the country they're from.

00:37:27.000 Most Americans have a broadly.

00:37:30.000 Positive view of the United States, they'll be like, Yeah, we got problems, but overall, America's great.

00:37:36.000 And when you've got candidates, especially if you've got a lot of them, right?

00:37:39.000 Like it's not just one or two.

00:37:41.000 When it was Bernie Sanders, just Bernie Sanders was the front.

00:37:44.000 Yeah, it was fine.

00:37:44.000 It was the front.

00:37:45.000 Yeah, you know, the popularity sort of worked against it.

00:37:47.000 It was like, Yeah, it was one guy.

00:37:48.000 He's not even a Democrat.

00:37:50.000 He's an independent, you know, blah, blah, blah, all of that stuff.

00:37:53.000 But if you've got, you know, 15, 20 candidates that are all names and they're like, they're just B-listers.

00:37:58.000 Yeah, and they're all saying, We hate America.

00:38:01.000 We hate America.

00:38:02.000 America is blah, blah, blah. 0.70

00:38:03.000 You know, and they're focused on all they all have a focus on a war in the Middle East.

00:38:09.000 These people probably this kind of attitude is probably the future of the Democrats, right? 0.92

00:38:16.000 But right now, the boomers are still the majority, the largest voting block. 0.82

00:38:20.000 Gen Z doesn't make it out to the polls, they don't make it out to vote, particularly in off year elections in the midterms. 0.84

00:38:30.000 They might be online and be active, but actually getting to the polls.

00:38:35.000 Historically, not saying that they can't, that the DSA isn't great at organizing and getting people animated, but historically, Gen Z doesn't go out to vote nearly as much as people that are Gen X and boomers. 0.51

00:38:47.000 And so, even now, with the amount of boomers versus the amount of Gen X and in the future, Gen Alpha, there's just not a lot of them compared to.

00:38:59.000 I feel like this midterm is really kind of low effort.

00:39:02.000 Like when we were in 2022, And Biden was saying, hey, we're going to forgive student debt because that was supposed to be part of his campaign promise back then.

00:39:12.000 And he didn't make good on it.

00:39:14.000 But then when the midterms came around, and it was right at the same time that they were kicking back Roe v. Wade to the states.

00:39:19.000 And so it suddenly became the woman's issue midterm election. 0.99

00:39:24.000 And the reason I say that is because women hold most of the student debt load in the United States. 0.80

00:39:30.000 So it's basically STEMI checks for like women who have the student debt, right? 0.97

00:39:33.000 So you're getting people out there. 0.93

00:39:35.000 And as a result, you know, that.

00:39:37.000 That's what happened in 2022.

00:39:39.000 That was kind of like the theme.

00:39:41.000 I'm trying to figure out what the theme is for the midterms this go round.

00:39:46.000 I feel like the theme is, at least on the left, is Gaza and the genocide. 1.00

00:39:53.000 And maybe there's no theme because, like I was saying before, we're just inundated with B listers right now.

00:39:58.000 Nobody has a really strong theme. 0.98

00:40:00.000 You know AOC, right? 0.84

00:40:02.000 Maybe Mamdani. 0.75

00:40:04.000 Mamdani's local, right? 0.63

00:40:05.000 He's not national yet.

00:40:07.000 But the theme right now is maybe no theme.

00:40:11.000 Because nobody knows what the character of any of these people are until they kind of rise to the top.

00:40:18.000 It may very well be the consolidation of power around Israel and the United States because Massey, I mean, his opponent won APAC money.

00:40:25.000 It was all APEC money.

00:40:26.000 I don't know all APEC money, but I don't know how much APEC money came in, how much out of state, $20 million or something.

00:40:31.000 The highest, most spent foreign money was it?

00:40:35.000 It was insane amounts of money at Trump's behest put against that guy to get him out of office.

00:40:41.000 Do you think that money actually does equal victory?

00:40:44.000 Because if you look at Hillary Clinton, she spent a billion dollars and Trump didn't spend as much money as she did and Trump won.

00:40:53.000 Biden spent a billion dollars and he beat Trump, but that was a novel election.

00:40:59.000 Biden and Kamala Harris spent a billion dollars.

00:41:03.000 It was totally novel.

00:41:05.000 I like the euphemism.

00:41:07.000 The YouTubeism.

00:41:09.000 I've never, well, no, I mean, it's fine if people are like, oh, it was a fake election.

00:41:12.000 That's fine.

00:41:13.000 But we've never had an election where people mailed out ballots and then went out and collected those ballots.

00:41:20.000 Oh, 100%.

00:41:21.000 The reason I'm laughing is because I don't know, we probably moved past it by now, but there was a time where you couldn't say that on YouTube without getting banned.

00:41:29.000 But to your point about the money, though, you almost Back to 2016 with Trump's primary.

00:41:33.000 I mean, all those guys raised more.

00:41:34.000 Jeb Bush, Trump had pennies on the dollar.

00:41:36.000 Yeah.

00:41:37.000 And I think your point's very valid.

00:41:39.000 It's worth pointing out that, you know, for Massey to lose was like an earthquake because he's an incumbent.

00:41:46.000 He was there seven terms or whatever.

00:41:48.000 And for an incumbent to lose against someone that was, I guess, I think it was a relatively, I don't even know the guy's name, so it's a fairly unknown guy.

00:41:57.000 To lose a primary, like, that's a big deal.

00:42:00.000 But I just, I don't know that the money is always the thing.

00:42:05.000 I know the left loves to say that it's the money, right?

00:42:08.000 They say, oh, you've got all these super PACs and Citizens United and et cetera, et cetera.

00:42:13.000 The left loves to make a stink about it, even though they're taking money from their own super PACs and the people like George Soros that spend billions and billions on it.

00:42:20.000 Well, they create slush funds out of that and wait until the next election comes around and then they use it for the next election.

00:42:24.000 Exactly.

00:42:25.000 So there's money that both sides spend, but I don't feel like it's.

00:42:31.000 It's not my sense that whoever spends the most money wins.

00:42:33.000 Certainly not in the midterms, that's for damn sure.

00:42:36.000 It's what the money can get you, which ideally is publicity.

00:42:38.000 I mean, that's really what money is.

00:42:39.000 Foreign politics is publicity.

00:42:41.000 So, like, YouTube channels are worth so much money $10,000 a night if you've got 100 million people watching you.

00:42:47.000 Even to that point, like, Thomas Massey had, you know, almost, at least with the Kentucky voters, they knew him.

00:42:54.000 You know, he, again, seven term incumbent.

00:42:56.000 It's not like they didn't know who the guy was.

00:42:58.000 That's what I'm trying to find out.

00:42:59.000 How much did Massey spend?

00:43:00.000 He had upwards of $32 million spent against him, the most expensive U.S. House primary in history.

00:43:07.000 I'm trying to find out how much he raised. 0.90

00:43:09.000 Looks like when Connell Harris does her.

00:43:11.000 What her book, and she's mentioning by name Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines in there as being like factors for losing. 0.79

00:43:17.000 I know, it's ridiculous.

00:43:18.000 I mean, then she refuses to go on Joe Rogan, right? 0.95

00:43:18.000 She said that. 0.95

00:43:21.000 And then what's the first thing they do when they're trying to lick their wounds after Trump wins is like, well, we don't have a Joe Rogan.

00:43:28.000 I'm like, well, you had an invite to go on Joe Rogan.

00:43:30.000 You could have gone and done that.

00:43:31.000 You had Joe Rogan.

00:43:32.000 Yeah, and you went crazy.

00:43:35.000 And you got Trump at that point, too.

00:43:36.000 The other thing is that we're kind of looking at 20th century candidates in a 21st century.

00:43:45.000 Political ecosystem, I guess, maybe.

00:43:50.000 And it's going to be interesting when we have a 21st century candidate running in a 21st century ecosystem.

00:43:56.000 Yeah, I mean, when you look at, I mean, if you look, we just mentioned Hillary and you mentioned Trump.

00:44:00.000 They are 20th century brands.

00:44:02.000 They were big names back in the 90s.

00:44:04.000 Mitch McConnell.

00:44:05.000 Apparently, he's brand dead.

00:44:06.000 I don't know.

00:44:07.000 That's Laura Loomer reporting that he's not coming back.

00:44:10.000 And he's the old slow down there.

00:44:12.000 Like, he's the old slow, I'm the 20th century Republican.

00:44:16.000 I forget what the site was.

00:44:18.000 Somebody did the markup of this.

00:44:20.000 Of the ages of all the people who are of all of our representatives, like all the senators and all the, you know, represent in the House, right?

00:44:27.000 And what their ages are.

00:44:28.000 And you would be surprised how many of them are over 80.

00:44:30.000 They're all over 80.

00:44:31.000 Hold on.

00:44:33.000 The whole thing about Mitch McConnell, I know that the chat is going to hate me for this.

00:44:37.000 Mitch McConnell is the reason that Merrick Garland is not on the Supreme Court.

00:44:42.000 Mitch McConnell is the reason that Roe versus Wade got overturned because Mitch McConnell was the guy that held up Merrick Garland.

00:44:49.000 So you can hate on.

00:44:51.000 Mitch McConnell, because he's a boomer and because he doesn't like Trump, and that's fair enough.

00:44:56.000 But I want to point out that having someone that knows the rules and is that crafty and clever in the Senate or in the Congress is important.

00:45:11.000 And Mitch McConnell, again, Mitch McConnell is the reason why we've got the Supreme Court that we do.

00:45:18.000 Well, on one side, you need the foundation of the experience of these people, but you also need this new blood coming in that are forward thinkers, I think.

00:45:26.000 When you said the 20th versus 21st century thing, were you referring just to the Democrats or both?

00:45:30.000 No, what I mean is like the process, like right now, like put it this way when Kamala Harris is mentioned by name Myron Gaines and Andrew Tate in her book as being like factors in her losing, that's what I mean.

00:45:42.000 That's the 21st century.

00:45:44.000 Podcasts, you know, like right now, like podcasting, at least online media, social media, that didn't exist in the 20th century.

00:45:53.000 Okay.

00:45:54.000 So it's like, so learning how to use that.

00:45:58.000 To your advantage right now is still something that eludes a lot of these old school brands who are still using, you know, like Reagan era Lee Atwater kind of, you know, here's how we're going to go and win this campaign.

00:46:10.000 It's like, no, you're not.

00:46:12.000 Because you need a Joe Rogan.

00:46:15.000 You need a Chris Williamson.

00:46:17.000 You need a Myron Gaines.

00:46:18.000 You need a whatever.

00:46:19.000 You need a Tim Pool, right?

00:46:20.000 You need somebody to go out there and have, you know, the same kind of market share that CNN or some of the bigger, you know, it's no longer TV and commercial TV that gets your message out there.

00:46:29.000 You know, it's interesting.

00:46:30.000 I don't know if who stayed up till three in the morning when.

00:46:32.000 When Trump won the election, when they called it and he's doing his acceptance at the rally and everything, he brings Dana White out there.

00:46:39.000 I don't know if you guys were still watching.

00:46:40.000 It was three in the morning.

00:46:41.000 Dana White gets on the mic and starts thanking people like Will Compton from Busting with the Boys, Aiden Ross, who's a big streamer, that whole generation, and giving them credit for actually moving the freaking needle. 0.98

00:46:55.000 Now, Trump's having the freaking UFC fight on his freaking front lawn. 0.97

00:46:59.000 He's calling freaking soccer referees and changing outcomes, right? 0.97

00:47:03.000 So, you know, when Trump's done, You know, is someone going to step into that role?

00:47:08.000 I mean, Trump overturns a red card.

00:47:11.000 I don't know.

00:47:12.000 I think the 21st century, the youth's going to come in.

00:47:16.000 Like JD Vance is an example of someone that's more technical, maybe more technocratic, but it's going to come in and it's going to be a lot faster.

00:47:22.000 It's going to be moving a lot quicker.

00:47:23.000 JD Vance gets it.

00:47:24.000 For better or worse, he'll get it.

00:47:25.000 He's like, he understands the.

00:47:27.000 I'm not saying I'm for or against any of these guys.

00:47:29.000 I'm just saying at least they understand the mechanisms of the 21st century and how you could change the election cycle and everything that we used to think of.

00:47:37.000 As being sort of set in stone from, like, I don't know, the late 70s through the 90s is no longer the game that we're playing in 2026.

00:47:46.000 I'm going to tell you what, when Rubio was on the road, he was on the road in Venezuela when he got on there and defended that action.

00:47:52.000 I mean, he gained some freaking fans.

00:47:54.000 He sounded sharp. 0.98

00:47:55.000 People were coming at him from every freaking angle.

00:47:57.000 No, this is what we did, and here's exactly why.

00:47:59.000 Correcting reporters and everything, I think he goes, it's time to shine.

00:48:03.000 Rubio is very sharp.

00:48:05.000 The other thing is this, and I think about this, this is just all I kind of wanted to throw at you.

00:48:11.000 Imagine, well, it's probably going to happen in 2028.

00:48:14.000 Imagine the election that is leveraging AI to push it forward.

00:48:19.000 Imagine it's the Claude election.

00:48:21.000 It's the ChatGPT election.

00:48:24.000 It's using AI and those algorithms and large language models to get behind a candidate.

00:48:30.000 To your point about a 21st century candidate, it's possible that the guy that we're talking about is Spencer Pratt.

00:48:37.000 So we're going to go to the story from Fox News. 0.57

00:48:40.000 Spencer Pratt lights social media on fire with a viral takedown of vile commie mayor Mamdani.

00:48:46.000 He put up a video this weekend.

00:48:47.000 We'll play a bit of it.

00:48:49.000 And it has gone incredibly viral.

00:48:52.000 I think it's something like seven and a half million views.

00:48:55.000 You know, Elon Musk had tweeted it.

00:48:56.000 But Fox News says Spencer Pratt sparked widespread online reaction over Independence Day weekend after posting a sharp rebuke of New York City Mayor Zoharan Mamdani for using the July 4th holiday to criticize America's history.

00:49:10.000 Pratt, a former TV reality star who drew attention with his surprise LA mayoral run, continued his political commentary by targeting Mamdani, who marked the nation's 250th Independence Day by delivering an immigration themed Address from George Washington's desk.

00:49:24.000 Flanked by eight recently naturalized U.S. citizens, Mamdani criticized U.S. immigration and customs enforcement, Elon Musk, and what he described as the arena of supremacy in the United States.

00:49:35.000 Look, Mamdani is not a fan of the United States, and Spencer Pratt really took him to task.

00:49:40.000 We're going to play a little bit of this right now.

00:49:43.000 We all had to sit and watch that vile commie mayor sit on the wrong side of our founding fathers' desks to try and lecture us about our own history.

00:49:52.000 Notice how the communist always attacks your history.

00:49:55.000 The communist must attack your history.

00:49:57.000 Why?

00:49:58.000 Because history is what anchors you.

00:50:00.000 It's what makes us attached to something.

00:50:02.000 Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

00:50:04.000 History breeds an almost irrational attachment to things, an attachment that is more powerful than anyone can imagine.

00:50:10.000 Erasing history is how you demoralize people, how you unmoor them and detach them from their society so you can take it from them and rewrite it in your image.

00:50:20.000 Think of your country like a home.

00:50:21.000 What makes your home special?

00:50:23.000 It's not the marble countertops or the expensive furniture or the fancy appliances.

00:50:28.000 It's the memories you have there.

00:50:30.000 That backyard is where we got married.

00:50:32.000 That living room rug is where our son took his first step.

00:50:35.000 Hey, don't touch that.

00:50:36.000 That was his first teddy bear.

00:50:38.000 It doesn't matter how torn and tattered that thing is.

00:50:40.000 You will never get rid of it.

00:50:42.000 And you will fight anyone who tries to take it away.

00:50:45.000 Why?

00:50:46.000 Because you have history with it.

00:50:48.000 You ever buy a new home?

00:50:49.000 Remember those first few months?

00:50:50.000 Even the first few years there.

00:50:52.000 It doesn't feel like home.

00:50:53.000 It could be a million times nicer than the crappy apartment you came from, but it doesn't feel like home for a long time because you don't have history there.

00:51:01.000 It's easy to so, the point that he makes in this is really, really, really.

00:51:06.000 Where is he doing this from?

00:51:07.000 From his front yard.

00:51:08.000 That is freaking great.

00:51:09.000 That is.

00:51:10.000 Yeah, from the front yard of the burnt down house.

00:51:12.000 Yes.

00:51:12.000 I mean, so this is.

00:51:14.000 He's great on social media, right?

00:51:17.000 Obviously.

00:51:18.000 But this particular video is.

00:51:21.000 It really, really.

00:51:22.000 In my opinion, it hits home for me.

00:51:24.000 Like, it's a great understanding of the tactics that the left is using, right?

00:51:31.000 This is told.

00:51:32.000 He mentions demoralization, right?

00:51:34.000 Everybody that.

00:51:35.000 Or not everybody, but most people that watch this show, watch IRL, they're familiar with Yuri Bezmanov and his instruction on what the communists were trying to do, right?

00:51:45.000 How they operated.

00:51:47.000 And the idea that you can demoralize a population by convincing them that their country is not worth loving, that their country is all bad, and they only focus on the negative things.

00:51:59.000 It's all true. 0.99

00:52:01.000 And you see it in young people nowadays.

00:52:03.000 You see all the people on the left that don't love America, that are.

00:52:06.000 That's all they can see, all they think of is the negatives.

00:52:09.000 And this video, if you haven't watched this video, I strongly recommend that you watch this video.

00:52:14.000 It is a little bit long, it's five minutes and 35 seconds long.

00:52:18.000 It's long as far as social media videos go, but it's really, really great.

00:52:24.000 He really lays out a great argument as to what the left is trying to do, what Zorhan Mamdani's intent was.

00:52:31.000 Even though Mamdani tries to make it sound like he's got a positive message, it's not a positive message overall.

00:52:39.000 It's critical of the United States.

00:52:40.000 And to do it on the 250th anniversary of our Declaration of Independence shows that he doesn't actually love this country.

00:52:47.000 He doesn't see this country as something worthwhile.

00:52:51.000 Spencer Pratt makes the point.

00:52:52.000 He's also doing it on that day because he knows he's going to get that emotional impact.

00:52:57.000 He knows it's a holiday.

00:52:59.000 He knows it's special.

00:52:59.000 He knows the Thunderbirds are flying over Las Vegas.

00:53:03.000 And Pratt knows that that's time.

00:53:04.000 It's not July 6th.

00:53:06.000 It's not July 1st.

00:53:07.000 It's July 4th.

00:53:08.000 And Pratt makes the point that Mamdani's been an American for eight years.

00:53:14.000 He was naturalized eight years ago.

00:53:16.000 And a new American is sitting there in the highest office in the city of New York.

00:53:22.000 Mm hmm.

00:53:23.000 Lecturing Americans about what America is, and he's doing it on the 250th anniversary.

00:53:30.000 I'm not the pearl clutching kind, but my thought on that when I saw it was like, sure, kid, whatever.

00:53:37.000 He's 30 some years old, and he's going to lecture me on what makes an American and what makes our country. 0.97

00:53:45.000 That's ridiculous. 0.96

00:53:46.000 What did he say? 0.99

00:53:47.000 Mamdani?

00:53:47.000 Yeah.

00:53:48.000 Well, I mean, he said things like the piece he said.

00:53:51.000 Let me see here.

00:53:53.000 He alluded to Elon Trump being a.

00:53:56.000 Trillionaire, Elon Trump.

00:53:58.000 Elon Musk feed a trillionaire while kids are going hungry.

00:54:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:02.000 Like a lot of stuff like that.

00:54:04.000 So, like all soundbite kind of things.

00:54:05.000 Yeah.

00:54:06.000 From Fox News, he said, As we mark 250 years, what do we see, Mamdani asked?

00:54:10.000 We see a city of contradictions within a nation of contradictions.

00:54:13.000 We see the wealthiest country in the history of the world, one where children go to sleep hungry while the world's first trillionaire hungers for more.

00:54:20.000 We see monopolies that dominate every industry and oligarchs who buy elections. 0.99

00:54:23.000 We see massed agents terrorizing our streets, eating food cooked by our undocumented neighbors. 0.90

00:54:28.000 Before spiriting them away in unmarked vans. 0.96

00:54:31.000 We see a nation whose immense wealth has been built by those with callous, dirt streaked hands, those who toil on factory floors and chisels into stone, and we see a nation that has allowed so much of that wealth be held instead in the soft hands of a precious few.

00:54:44.000 That is, there's a total indictment of the United States.

00:54:48.000 So it's the pearls versus the bourgeois.

00:54:50.000 Absolutely.

00:54:52.000 The money people are not Americans.

00:54:53.000 They're Swiss bankers. 0.99

00:54:55.000 I mean, it's a foreign op.

00:54:56.000 He's talking about Jeff Bezos.

00:54:58.000 He's talking about Elon Musk.

00:54:59.000 Those people all want to bring us back to the Fed.

00:55:01.000 He's talking about.

00:55:03.000 Donald Trump, he's talking about Americans that have built businesses here, and he's saying that they're the bad guys.

00:55:11.000 I want to know specifically who he's talking about, the oligarchs that bought elections.

00:55:14.000 Who's he talking about with that one?

00:55:16.000 I would say that's more on the liberal side than the conservative side, if you ask me.

00:55:19.000 Yeah, I'm not sure who he had in mind, but it's clear that this is not a positive message of America.

00:55:26.000 Spencer Pratt, he made a good point in his video that history is important to preserve.

00:55:31.000 That I agreed with. 0.84

00:55:32.000 Calling Mom Dami, I think he said a filthy communist. 0.71

00:55:35.000 He said, like, Mom Dami is not a communist. 0.95

00:55:38.000 Yes, he is.

00:55:38.000 He's a socialist.

00:55:39.000 There's a big difference.

00:55:40.000 No, there's not.

00:55:41.000 I mean, unless he espouses an intense communism on the people.

00:55:44.000 What's the difference between socialists and communists?

00:55:46.000 Communists want no state.

00:55:48.000 They want no state.

00:55:49.000 They want everyone to own every piece of everything together collectively, whereas a socialist uses federal funds to do state jobs and stuff.

00:55:57.000 So there's still a state in socialism rather than communism?

00:55:59.000 You said that the end goal of socialism is communism.

00:56:03.000 You could use it as a pass through to get to communism, but I don't think Mom Dami wants communism.

00:56:03.000 It is.

00:56:07.000 Is Mom Dami a Marxist?

00:56:09.000 It sounds like it.

00:56:10.000 These statements make it seem like he wants some sort of class or sees a class war in process.

00:56:15.000 But I'm telling you, man, the classes are not in the Americas.

00:56:18.000 They're global.

00:56:19.000 And it's a banking thing that's going on.

00:56:21.000 It really is.

00:56:22.000 We're getting bankrupted from the inside out.

00:56:24.000 You know, the Federal Reserve Act, the fiat currency system, bailing out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2008, the trillions that got printed during COVID, that is a real problem.

00:56:24.000 We're $40 trillion.

00:56:35.000 But it's not Elon Musk, bro.

00:56:35.000 Yeah.

00:56:37.000 That's a big banking cartel.

00:56:38.000 That's part of why there is such a significant difference when it comes to what the left loves to talk about wealth inequality, right?

00:56:47.000 People that have money.

00:56:48.000 Have access to money, people that don't have money don't have access to money.

00:56:52.000 That makes sense and that's true.

00:56:54.000 But the way that Momdani is framing it as the people that have money are actually oppressing the people that don't, that's just not how it works.

00:57:03.000 The people that have money are the ones that are generally providing the jobs that the people that don't have enough money are working.

00:57:12.000 There's levels of oppression, like when the bank hits you with a late fee or a $25 fee because you overdrafted $1.70.

00:57:19.000 Okay, there's some oppression from rich people to poor people.

00:57:22.000 Just a side note here.

00:57:23.000 No kids are going to sleep hungry. 0.99

00:57:25.000 Our kids are fat.

00:57:26.000 Childhood obesity.

00:57:28.000 There's a few things.

00:57:29.000 Who is he talking about specifically?

00:57:31.000 Like three of these things.

00:57:33.000 There's going to be that fat.

00:57:34.000 Okay, I know you're talking about Elon Musk.

00:57:36.000 I'm a stranger.

00:57:36.000 Who else are you talking about on this other side?

00:57:38.000 The left has changed, has stopped talking about people that don't get enough to eat or don't have enough food.

00:57:44.000 Now they say they talk about food insecurity, as in, like, or, you know, there are people that don't have enough nutritious food.

00:57:53.000 They have to move the goalpost because our system.

00:57:56.000 Has been so successful that our poor people are fat now.

00:58:01.000 So, like the people that are poor in America, they tend to be overweight.

00:58:04.000 You see fat homeless people, right?

00:58:06.000 Like, if you were really that poor, then you wouldn't be fat.

00:58:10.000 And you can see that in places like, I mean, you look at, I saw this picture of a guy in Venezuela that was a storekeeper in Venezuela.

00:58:18.000 And there's a picture before the socialists took over, and his store is stocked, and he's a little on the pudgy side.

00:58:25.000 Not sloppy, but he's got a bit of a belly, and then he's well fed.

00:58:30.000 A decade later.

00:58:31.000 It's a picture from the same spot in his store, right?

00:58:34.000 And there's very few things on the background that are on the shelves behind him.

00:58:40.000 And he's clearly, clearly significantly thinner because the socialist model doesn't actually work.

00:58:47.000 And it's something that most of the people that are watching this show probably agree with that.

00:58:52.000 But it's not something that you can actually argue against.

00:58:55.000 There has been an experiment in socialism with different societies across the world.

00:59:02.000 With different cultures.

00:59:04.000 You got North Korea, China, there's been all kinds of socialist experiments across all of Africa, all of South America.

00:59:12.000 There's all kinds of different cultures that have tried socialism, and every single time it fails.

00:59:19.000 It doesn't produce enough for people to eat, and you have famine, you have people that are actually going hungry.

00:59:27.000 And our society, the one that Mamdani is sitting here criticizing, we have fat people that are homeless, we have fat people that are poor because.

00:59:36.000 We have such a successful society that even the poor people, there are. 1.00

00:59:41.000 I was watching Caleb Hammer and he was talking to a guest that was a socialist and she was saying all the stupid platitudes. 0.99

00:59:47.000 And he was like, How many Americans have, or what percentage of Americans have a smartphone? 1.00

00:59:53.000 And she's like, Oh, I don't know, blah, blah, blah.

00:59:55.000 98%.

00:59:57.000 98% of Americans, homeless people have cell phones.

01:00:00.000 They have smartphones.

01:00:01.000 Homeless people have computers. 1.00

01:00:03.000 If you have the cognitive ability, because there are some people out there that, you know, have issues that, The mechanics don't work. 1.00

01:00:09.000 The mechanics don't work.

01:00:10.000 They can't actually use cell phones.

01:00:11.000 They can't comprehend how to use them.

01:00:12.000 But if you have the cognitive ability to use a cell phone, and probably a lot of people that don't have quite the cognitive ability to use a cell phone, they all have cell phones.

01:00:22.000 They all have smartphones.

01:00:23.000 They all have computers in their cars.

01:00:24.000 I'll give you this.

01:00:26.000 I agree with you 100%.

01:00:27.000 But I think one of the things, this is my take on socialism, communism, communitarianism, collectivism, is that when you look at Marxism, you look at what was supposed to be a form of government that was based on our understanding of what.

01:00:45.000 Human nature was in what, 1848?

01:00:47.000 Was that when the Communist Manifesto was published, somewhere around there?

01:00:51.000 So you're looking at a.

01:00:52.000 And it's probably written well before that, right?

01:00:55.000 So you're looking at an understanding of human nature from the perspective of Karl Marx in what, Russia?

01:01:02.000 In 1848?

01:01:03.000 No, he wrote, I believe he was in England and he was in Germany.

01:01:06.000 And he was in Germany.

01:01:07.000 So you've got him writing this manifesto that is going to at least set the architecture.

01:01:15.000 For, well, later on, communism, socialism, whatever, based on an understanding that human beings are collectivists, that they are egalitarian, that they are all cooperative.

01:01:26.000 All, what, communitarianism, right?

01:01:30.000 Where, as in today, in the 21st century, we've plotted the human genome. 0.80

01:01:35.000 We understand, well, we already have the history to back up the fact that there's never been a successful version of socialism or communism that didn't end up in the Khmer Rouge or pot, you know, or anything like that.

01:01:48.000 But the thing is, is because we're still, we don't know what else to do. 0.86

01:01:51.000 We don't have any other way to go from here.

01:01:53.000 That's why, one of the reasons why, when we look at hierarchical systems, which capitalism is hierarchical, you know, you got the president, you got all the way down the chain of command kind of thing.

01:02:02.000 So you're looking at a hierarchy as a form of organizing society as opposed to doing everything in the round and everybody's going to cooperate and everybody's on the same page.

01:02:11.000 And the only way you can make them on the same page is through propaganda, is through maintaining this narrative so that.

01:02:18.000 Everybody believes the same thing in this sort of social engineering experiment that has never been successful because that's simply not the way the human mind works.

01:02:28.000 It's not the way we evolved to work as human beings.

01:02:31.000 Men want to compete with one another.

01:02:33.000 Women tend to be the gatherers, men are the hunters, right? 0.97

01:02:35.000 We've organized society in hierarchies. 1.00

01:02:38.000 Women tend to do it in the round, right? 1.00

01:02:40.000 They tend to do it in egalitarian, you know, communitarian ways of organizing society, right? 0.99

01:02:46.000 Well, that's not the way that we have been able to, you know, like you were saying, successfully organize a society.

01:02:53.000 Certainly not in the West for as long as we've been doing it.

01:02:57.000 So, what I'm saying is this is when we look at what those old ways of organizing society were based on, they're based on an incomplete understanding of human nature.

01:03:08.000 Now, I mean, how many, what are we, almost 200 years since then, more than that, right?

01:03:12.000 Since then.

01:03:13.000 And we have all of this knowledge and everything else, but yet we're still clinging to this guy who wrote the manifesto in 1848 with an understanding of human nature from 1848.

01:03:27.000 And we're in 2026.

01:03:28.000 It's like, dude, it's time to move the clock.

01:03:31.000 Let's move forward, please.

01:03:33.000 Well, I think the modern form of propaganda, especially from the left, but really from all politicians, when you're talking about welfare, is they never say, let's just give more money to the people that need it.

01:03:44.000 Okay. 0.53

01:03:44.000 Oh, we see that they're fat. 0.53

01:03:46.000 We see that they have cell phones.

01:03:47.000 Let's keep it.

01:03:47.000 No, we got to keep doing that.

01:03:49.000 But that needs to coexist with an investment in our school systems, with investment in drug rehabilitation centers.

01:03:56.000 And that's the propaganda now from both parties.

01:03:58.000 But what's actually changed in the last 30 years in this stuff?

01:04:01.000 Not a whole lot, whether it's Obama saying it, George Bush saying it, or whomever saying it.

01:04:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:08.000 All it's enough to get by, okay?

01:04:11.000 Because the Republicans say, well, we don't want to give more in the welfare, that doesn't make any sense.

01:04:15.000 Let's invest here.

01:04:16.000 Well, that should coexist with it.

01:04:17.000 There is the other end, you end up nowhere exactly where we're at right now.

01:04:20.000 The only breakthrough in that regard was, well, I'm not even going to go there, it would change the whole subject.

01:04:24.000 So, I'm just reading into like the government because this whole like communism, government owning corporations, you know, it's kind of antithetical to the United States.

01:04:33.000 We've basically been laissez faire, hands off, and we have the postal service, we have some, but over the last This is blowing my mind.

01:04:41.000 The U.S. has bought 26 corporations between 2025 and 2026.

01:04:46.000 They invested in 26 corporations.

01:04:49.000 They bought like 10% of Intel between January of 25 and May of 26.

01:04:54.000 The initial strategic deals, they bought 17, 16 month deals.

01:04:59.000 They bought 15% stake in MP materials.

01:05:02.000 Our government owns these corporations now.

01:05:04.000 MP materials.

01:05:05.000 They're basically like, it looks like they're stealing for World War III. 0.98

01:05:08.000 They're getting prepared in case there's a World War that breaks out and they want to be able to compete with China's. 0.97

01:05:13.000 Mobility, you know, corporate mobility, their ability to mobilize and go into a wartime economy if they need to. 0.82

01:05:19.000 But it's still like, it looks like communism on paper when the government starts buying corporations.

01:05:24.000 Yeah, I mean, they're buying stocks, right?

01:05:27.000 So they're buying a portion, they're buying a certain percentage of stocks or a certain amount of stock.

01:05:32.000 I don't think, and it's not a controlling interest.

01:05:37.000 Yeah, it's not a controlling interest of the company.

01:05:39.000 So I don't, I mean, look, you can, if you're of the opinion the government shouldn't be, Picking winners and losers and shouldn't be buying stocks from private companies, then that's a legitimate argument.

01:05:51.000 I would want to see what those companies were and how much they purchased of each one of those and what would be the possible reason that they would want to actually put money into them.

01:05:58.000 If I understand correctly.

01:05:59.000 And then you've got to weigh that against how many big corporations, multinational corporations, are in the U.S. as it is.

01:06:06.000 If I understand, at least for the example that Ian brought up with Intel, part of the reason I think is because they want to actually have chips made in the U.S.

01:06:13.000 The CHIPS Act isn't.

01:06:15.000 Panning out the way that we had hoped, if I understand correctly.

01:06:18.000 But we do need to have chip manufacturers in the United States because, you know, for national security reasons.

01:06:23.000 Obviously.

01:06:24.000 I was going to say the other thing is that it could be new technology that the public's not aware of right now.

01:06:31.000 That is still maybe an experimental.

01:06:32.000 So maybe it's quantum computing, right?

01:06:34.000 Maybe it is.

01:06:35.000 Maybe it's quantum computing.

01:06:36.000 And pair quantum computing with AI, you're in a boatload of hurts.

01:06:42.000 Yeah, it's like metals companies, metallic.

01:06:45.000 I'm pulling up a list of all the companies and what percent the government owns.

01:06:48.000 MP materials, Intel, lithium, America, trilogy, metals, they do US rare earth, and it's like 10%.

01:06:55.000 They're making dog robots.

01:06:58.000 But all that stuff is going to be.

01:07:00.000 You're talking about dark mirror.

01:07:02.000 You're talking about rare earths.

01:07:03.000 You're talking about metals.

01:07:04.000 You're talking about semiconductors.

01:07:06.000 All that stuff is national security stuff.

01:07:08.000 Hey, Ian, all that stuff is national security stuff.

01:07:10.000 That's what they'll say for sure.

01:07:11.000 They'll be like, I actually say it too. 0.99

01:07:13.000 To compete with the Chinese who own 51% of all their corporations, at least, you kind of, I mean, it's not, it's an argument towards like, It looks like to defend against the corporation, you need to get a little state owned. 0.98

01:07:26.000 You need to be like, you need some national power. 0.98

01:07:28.000 Right now, all that stuff that you listed rare earths and all the metallurgy and stuff like that that's all stuff that we actually get from China now.

01:07:35.000 So, in my opinion, it's good that the government is actually investing in these companies to try to make sure that the U.S. has the ability to produce this stuff here.

01:07:45.000 I want lithium to be produced here because lithium ion batteries go into everything that we use basically nowadays.

01:07:51.000 I want there to be.

01:07:53.000 You know, rare earth metals that the U.S. is mining here in the U.S. because we're getting it all from China.

01:07:58.000 I want the government to be doing this stuff.

01:08:00.000 I want the government to make sure that it has the ability to provide the things necessary to the, not just to the Defense Department, but primarily to the Defense Department or the Department of War, so that if there is a conflict with China, we're not screwed.

01:08:19.000 Nine of the companies are quantum computing companies.

01:08:21.000 There it is.

01:08:22.000 Two billion they've put so far into Nigeria.

01:08:23.000 A bunch of money in quantum computing right now, boys.

01:08:26.000 Yeah, we're in crypto's down, but quantum computing is going on.

01:08:30.000 The crypto industry is like at half of where it was six.

01:08:32.000 Months ago, and all the stocks are just exploding, going up, I think that's because the world economic order has seen that the United States is going to win.

01:08:40.000 If there is a war, the U.S. has it unlocked since they took Venezuela, the way they bastarded and brutalized Iran, and like about to take Cuba.

01:08:48.000 Like, they're like, you know what?

01:08:49.000 We thought crypto was the global currency, it's actually U.S. stocks. 0.73

01:08:51.000 I don't think that we're gonna take Cuba.

01:08:53.000 I think that Cuba is just gonna turn into a client state. 0.82

01:08:56.000 Cuba might, the people might start eating themselves if the power. 0.87

01:08:58.000 Hey, speaking of which, that's a good segue.

01:09:02.000 Yeah, so.

01:09:02.000 Can I say one thing or a bad segue?

01:09:06.000 Just reflecting back to the 21st century politics thing, when you talk about Spencer Pratt running for governor in California, commenting on what the current mayor of New York is saying, right?

01:09:20.000 That's 21st century politics.

01:09:22.000 They know it's going to get.

01:09:23.000 How many views did you say it had?

01:09:24.000 7.5 million as of last time I checked, which was like earlier today.

01:09:28.000 Oh, that's a local until they're not.

01:09:30.000 Well, what's a prospective governor of California have to do with the New York mayor?

01:09:34.000 They have nothing to do with each other, right?

01:09:35.000 So.

01:09:36.000 Anyway, like I said, I like the fact that he was talking about it just because he's talking about the comedy fight.

01:09:42.000 They're anticipating it.

01:09:43.000 They know that four years from now.

01:09:45.000 He's anticipating social media clicks, too, though. 1.00

01:09:46.000 Dana White's going to get him down to the UFC facility and they're just going to fire it out in the fucking cage, man. 0.99

01:09:51.000 Why not? 0.99

01:09:51.000 I would see that. 0.99

01:09:52.000 I would be broadcasted on kick.

01:09:53.000 I don't know how strong Spencer Pratt is.

01:09:56.000 I've never seen him do that. 0.91

01:09:57.000 I'm worried this brings down Mamdani.

01:09:59.000 Mamdani couldn't put up, he had a bar and 235s.

01:10:04.000 He couldn't put up 150.

01:10:06.000 Now he's got four years of training.

01:10:08.000 I know it's a big ask to ask somebody to run for president, but I'd love to see Spencer Pratt run for president with Marco Rubio and JD Vance because I think Marco and JD are kind of buttoned up right now, at least behind the Trump wall that they're in.

01:10:20.000 They're in the buffer, they're in the firewall.

01:10:22.000 So I think Spencer's like this fireball from outside that will light it up and force those guys to normalize and match his alpha energy on stage.

01:10:33.000 You'll see if Rubio and Vance decide that they're going to run for president, you'll see come in a year from now, they'll be clearly running.

01:10:42.000 They'll have announced because it's, you know, the primary or the midterms are this fall.

01:10:48.000 And then January, February, and March, you'll hear people start making announcements that they're running.

01:10:53.000 So you'll know by next summer, you know.

01:10:56.000 But speaking of Cuba, we're going to jump to this story from the AP.

01:11:01.000 Island blackout hits Cuba as its fuel reserve dwindles and aging grid crumbles.

01:11:07.000 I've been to Cuba.

01:11:07.000 Let's see.

01:11:09.000 An island wide blackout hit Cuba on Monday as the country's fuel reserve dwindles and its electric grid continues to crumble.

01:11:14.000 The blackout in the country of nearly 10 million people was reported by the state run electric union, which said on X that the cause is under investigation.

01:11:22.000 The Ministry of Energy and Mines wrote on X that it has activated protocols to restore electricity.

01:11:28.000 Fuel has been running out across Cuba since January when U.S. President Donald Trump threatened tariffs on any country that sells or provides oil to the island, deepening the island's ongoing economic and financial crisis.

01:11:39.000 Public transportation has been largely halted and officials have canceled tens of thousands of surgeries.

01:11:44.000 Energy Minister Vincent de la Ove.

01:11:47.000 De La Oleve said microsystems were already operating through Cuba a couple of hours after the outage.

01:11:53.000 Vital services continue to be protected amidst this complex situation exacerbated by the energy blockade we face.

01:12:00.000 They've already said that they're going to open up some markets, which is progress because Cuba has been one of the only, I'm pretty sure the only truly communist country.

01:12:12.000 Well, no, Venezuela was pretty much a socialist country.

01:12:15.000 So it's one of the only truly socialist countries in the Western Hemisphere, at least.

01:12:20.000 And they have been basically backwards for the entire time.

01:12:25.000 You know, they've been falling further and further behind the rest of the world.

01:12:30.000 So, this is, will be interesting how big of a deal this starts to become.

01:12:35.000 You know, right now it's not really even the top story in the news, right?

01:12:37.000 It kind of is, but not really.

01:12:39.000 But if you really look into it, it comes from Cuba's oil supplier being Venezuela.

01:12:45.000 And now Trump saying anyone that gives Cuba any oil, they're going to issue tariffs so no one's giving them oil now.

01:12:50.000 So, like, I mean, if people start starving there and, you know what I mean?

01:12:55.000 We're going to have a little bit of a problem.

01:12:57.000 Cuba doesn't.

01:12:58.000 Because of Cuba's, from my limited understanding of Cuba, they don't have a lot of problems when it comes to feeding people because Cuba actually said, look, everybody grow a garden.

01:13:09.000 Right.

01:13:09.000 Okay.

01:13:10.000 So, like, they've got a 365 day a year growing season.

01:13:13.000 It's always warm.

01:13:14.000 They get plenty of rain.

01:13:15.000 There's no reason for anybody in Cuba to starve because they've got plenty of arable land.

01:13:23.000 So, if they do end up having issues with feeding their people, it's because of government.

01:13:28.000 So, the power that they could produce on their own in Cuba only represents 40% of what they need, though.

01:13:36.000 So, the food inflows are fine, but they still need 60% more, I guess, of oil to operate as they do.

01:13:44.000 And I'm just saying, worst case scenario, this thing spirals in a certain way and Trump gets blamed for it.

01:13:48.000 Well, I mean, I think that no matter what, Trump's going to get blamed for it because of the situation in Venezuela.

01:13:52.000 But I think this is actually going to be a good thing.

01:13:54.000 Like, overall, I was going to say, yeah, it's going to be good for Cuba.

01:13:56.000 Okay, because now, correct me if I'm wrong, but like, I think it was last week.

01:14:01.000 That Trump was actually mentioning Cuba and saying he was going to provide aid to the people of Cuba, not going through the government of Cuba so that it would then get to the people, but he was directly going to send money, send aid, send some kind of resources to the people of Cuba just a few weeks, or at least a week ago.

01:14:20.000 I know that.

01:14:22.000 And now this.

01:14:23.000 Well, he's trying to prevent what's happening.

01:14:27.000 Obviously, appealing to the populace of Cuba.

01:14:33.000 Is probably a better idea than trying to work with the government there because essentially, one of the reasons there's the embargo is because they don't want China to come in there and essentially own that prime real estate, right? 0.92

01:14:45.000 I mean, that's one of the reasons why we didn't want the Russians there in the Bay of Pigs. 0.86

01:14:50.000 Especially when you think of the fact that the Gulf of America now has so much oil industry in it, right? 1.00

01:14:58.000 So you've got Houston as a bunch of refineries, I guess, in the area, and with the U.S. being an exporter now.

01:15:06.000 You want to make sure that Cuba is not hostile to the U.S. Not that they're going to attack, but like, look, where Cuba sits, right?

01:15:14.000 You have to travel pretty close to Cuba to get to anywhere in the Gulf.

01:15:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:19.000 And that's going to matter.

01:15:20.000 90 miles to Florida. 0.98

01:15:22.000 So the Cuban president says, Trump's trying to incite social unrest by strangling Cuba's fuel supply, which that's probably true. 1.00

01:15:32.000 So I'm more. 0.99

01:15:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:15:34.000 So it's not as I guess.

01:15:37.000 That's exactly what's happening.

01:15:38.000 But.

01:15:39.000 Because I don't know.

01:15:39.000 Do we know?

01:15:40.000 What's the end game?

01:15:41.000 What could Cuba's government do to fix this with the United States?

01:15:44.000 What could even happen?

01:15:45.000 What are we trying to accomplish here?

01:15:46.000 I think if you look at what happened in Venezuela, you say regime change.

01:15:49.000 Yeah.

01:15:50.000 So, even if you don't, and I don't think Trump cares if it's Raul Castro that's in charge or someone else.

01:15:58.000 I think he just wants someone that's going to play ball with the U.S. and have open markets.

01:16:01.000 So, I think if Cuba opens up their markets and says, okay, we're going to stop being hostile to the U.S., we're definitely not going to do business with the U.S., we're not going to be in bed with China or in bed with Russia or what have you, then I think that that could normalize relations.

01:16:16.000 And then the U.S. would be like, okay, cool.

01:16:17.000 Are we even having those kinds of conversations with them right now?

01:16:20.000 This is like just a few little guys.

01:16:21.000 Yeah, there have been Amazon.

01:16:23.000 There have been people from the State Department that have gone down there and talked.

01:16:26.000 I think that Rubio might have gone down.

01:16:29.000 I could be wrong.

01:16:30.000 But, you know, this is something that I think Rubio wants really bad. 1.00

01:16:33.000 Obviously, he's a Cuban American. 1.00

01:16:34.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:16:34.000 So I think we cut them off in, like, late March, from what I read somewhere. 1.00

01:16:38.000 It was late March.

01:16:39.000 So we're only in July.

01:16:40.000 This is probably the time. 0.84

01:16:41.000 Which, of course, would be why he's, like, reaching out to the people of Cuba right now and say, hey, shit's going to happen, but, like, we're going to, you know, we're here for you guys, right? 0.74

01:16:49.000 He wants exclusivity. 0.84

01:16:50.000 He wants exclusivity of Cuba.

01:16:53.000 Look at the point.

01:16:54.000 Look at where Trump has gone in just the short amount of time, about a year and a half, two years that he's been in.

01:17:00.000 He's looking at what, Greenland, Iceland?

01:17:03.000 Greenland, Greenland.

01:17:04.000 Okay.

01:17:04.000 Greenland, Greenland.

01:17:05.000 Venezuela.

01:17:06.000 No, no.

01:17:07.000 Okay.

01:17:07.000 And now Cuba.

01:17:08.000 What are all the strategic significance of all those locations, right?

01:17:13.000 What do they have in Venezuela?

01:17:14.000 What do they have in Cuba?

01:17:15.000 Like, well, Cuba is obvious.

01:17:17.000 They don't want missiles aimed at the U.S. Mara, right?

01:17:21.000 And then, of course, you can look at the geopolitical significance of Greenland right there.

01:17:27.000 Close to Russia.

01:17:28.000 Yeah, close to Russia.

01:17:29.000 So, yeah, I mean, there was a guest on that was saying that Cuba is basically like a staging area for Chinese spy tech right now. 0.62

01:17:35.000 And they're just, that is their spy.

01:17:36.000 They're spying hard.

01:17:38.000 So, if we were to, we're sieging, essentially, we're not sieging them.

01:17:41.000 We're just starve, start, we're sanctioning them. 1.00

01:17:45.000 It's a nice modern form of siege warfare.

01:17:47.000 But if then we strangled out their government to capitulation, it would be like a brutal behind the scenes, like reformation of who's who, you know?

01:17:57.000 Well, I mean, it's real estate.

01:17:58.000 They, that, What natural resources do they have that China would want in the first place? 0.62

01:18:04.000 Nothing.

01:18:04.000 They want the access to land.

01:18:04.000 Nothing.

01:18:06.000 They want to be able to position things. 0.97

01:18:07.000 It's like our Taiwan, or their Taiwan right now.

01:18:10.000 That's also across my mind. 0.53

01:18:12.000 If we took Cuba by force, would that just be due to.

01:18:17.000 I don't think there's any reason to think that there's going to be some kind of military invasion of Cuba or anything.

01:18:24.000 It would have to be a liberation.

01:18:25.000 It would be poised as a liberation of the people.

01:18:27.000 They need it.

01:18:28.000 They want it.

01:18:28.000 I think that it's all going to be economic pressure.

01:18:30.000 Because we can do it, clearly.

01:18:32.000 That's what he says.

01:18:34.000 Social unrest to pressure it.

01:18:37.000 So, like, either a governor gets bribed and turns in his buddies, or there's an assassination behind the scenes, and then they can join.

01:18:43.000 I don't know.

01:18:44.000 I was saying that social unrest just causes the government to shift.

01:18:46.000 Completely bloodless.

01:18:47.000 Yeah, completely bloodless.

01:18:48.000 That might be a little optimistic on our part.

01:18:51.000 I mean, yeah, but this is the way that it seems to be going.

01:18:54.000 The U.S. hasn't had any kind of kinetic operations over Cuba, the U.S. hasn't had to send in any troops.

01:19:03.000 And Cuba is basically their country economically, they're getting crushed.

01:19:08.000 And the U.S. is like, look, we'll stop this.

01:19:11.000 Just open up your markets for your people. 0.99

01:19:13.000 And it's collateral damage for Cuba. 0.92

01:19:15.000 What we're doing, what we did to Venezuela, hey, get Cuba too out of this.

01:19:19.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.54

01:19:19.000 I mean, look, whether or not you think the operation in Venezuela was a good idea, it's clearly worked, right? 0.54

01:19:27.000 We're, what are we, five months past or whatever, got Maduro out.

01:19:33.000 The vice president was like, okay, I'll work with you.

01:19:36.000 And.

01:19:36.000 Everything has changed now.

01:19:38.000 And, you know, they've got, you know, diplomatic ties with the U.S.

01:19:45.000 And we're getting their oil.

01:19:47.000 We've got, I know that the oil companies have started working back in Venezuela to try and get the oil rigged until we annex Greenland.

01:19:56.000 It's time to annex Greenland.

01:19:57.000 Trump said Canada's going to be a state at one point.

01:20:01.000 You never want stuff done.

01:20:02.000 None of these places can be states.

01:20:04.000 I'm very firm on my disagreement about the idea of any of these states. 0.98

01:20:07.000 The all feminist government of Greenland is just bristling right now. 0.99

01:20:11.000 We're coming for you. 1.00

01:20:12.000 The U.S. is probably going to, they're probably not going to take Greenland.

01:20:15.000 They're probably just going to open up some more bases because, look, at the end of the day, You've got less ice on the polar ice caps.

01:20:24.000 If that happens, and Russia can actually build ports in the north, because right now they don't have any ports that they can use. 0.55

01:20:32.000 I think they've got one in the Black Sea that they can get out, but you have to go through the Black Sea and then through the Mediterranean. 0.82

01:20:37.000 Otherwise, they don't have any real significant way to reach most of the world, Europe and North America and stuff.

01:20:44.000 If they can, if they get those ports open, the U.S. wants to be able to monitor what they're doing.

01:20:50.000 Plus, Greenland is close to Russia.

01:20:52.000 Yep.

01:20:52.000 You know, comparatively.

01:20:53.000 Right now, you look at all of the.

01:20:56.000 You look at where the F 22 is stationed.

01:20:58.000 They're stationed in Alaska and Hawaii because of being able to project power, right?

01:21:03.000 If Russia decides that they're going to use bombers, you can scramble jets from Alaska and from Hawaii.

01:21:10.000 Or if China decides they're going to do something like that, you can scramble jets from.

01:21:13.000 You scramble interceptors from Alaska and Hawaii.

01:21:16.000 They want to be able to do that with Greenland.

01:21:17.000 They want to have.

01:21:18.000 They've got a new.

01:21:19.000 I think it's the.

01:21:20.000 It'll be the F 47, I think is what the new one's going to be called.

01:21:23.000 Um.

01:21:24.000 But they've got a new jet, new interceptor.

01:21:28.000 It's a sixth generation fighter jet that they've already started the infrastructure in Alaska for this to be able to house the jets there.

01:21:36.000 They want to do that in Greenland, I imagine.

01:21:38.000 Okay.

01:21:38.000 You know?

01:21:39.000 So, yeah, I mean, look, this is all the stuff that Trump is getting hell for.

01:21:44.000 This is all about being able to protect the United States and make sure that the United States is economically positioning us to keep us where we're at, like security in 2030.

01:21:54.000 Yeah, and we've talked about, I mean, probably looking at 2050, but we've talked about on this channel, we've talked about a lot how, look, the Democrats are looking to avoid Thucydides' trap, right?

01:22:08.000 Where there's a rising power and an aging power, and if the rising power gets powerful enough, they're eventually going to go to war.

01:22:17.000 The Democrats were like, we don't want to go to war, so we're going to go ahead and have a managed decline in the United States.

01:22:21.000 We're going to pull back, and we'll go ahead and have a multipolar world where China and Russia and the U.S. kind of have their own.

01:22:28.000 And Trump's just like, hell with that.

01:22:30.000 Why don't we just win?

01:22:32.000 You know?

01:22:32.000 Yep.

01:22:34.000 Look, I forget the guy's name, but he was the administrator of, I believe it was, not Shanghai.

01:22:42.000 I'm spacing on his name, but he's like, look, I love the American idea.

01:22:46.000 The American idea is we start from nothing and we beat you.

01:22:50.000 And that's the way that the Americans have always been. 0.81

01:22:52.000 We start from zero and we beat you. 1.00

01:22:54.000 You get a head start and we still win.

01:22:58.000 Very, very American.

01:23:00.000 And personally, I think that if we have the ability, which I don't think that we don't have the ability to do those kind of things, why not?

01:23:07.000 Why should we just say, okay, we're going to go ahead and allow our country to decline?

01:23:11.000 We should be doing things to ensure that our children and our grandchildren and our grandchildren's children enjoy the same kind of lifestyle that we do.

01:23:18.000 Look at the moves that China made really during Biden when China's moving into like West Africa, Kenya.

01:23:26.000 Why?

01:23:26.000 Because they're picking up the resources in there.

01:23:29.000 They're helping the population at the same time, but they're essentially doing what What Trump is doing right now, going in there because they have some sort of either resource significance or they have strategic significance.

01:23:39.000 They go in there and they can help out the local, very depressed third world economy of that population and then annex that resource or annex that territory.

01:23:53.000 We don't hear about it because we're not privy to Chinese publication, what's going on in China.

01:24:00.000 But when Trump does it, suddenly it's colonization.

01:24:02.000 Suddenly it's a war of aggression or something.

01:24:05.000 No, he's just basically playing the long game. 0.90

01:24:08.000 Finally, somebody's playing the long game because China's been playing the long game for a while now. 0.99

01:24:13.000 Well, and especially with. 0.77

01:24:14.000 You know, areas like Africa and the Middle East, you wonder if Trump's criticized more heavily just because of the whole, you know, Muslim versus Christian Western values thing that doesn't come into play when China does things like that, to a degree at least.

01:24:27.000 Yeah.

01:24:29.000 Yeah, I forget who it was.

01:24:32.000 It doesn't, Google's failing me here.

01:24:35.000 But yeah, look, the U.S. has the ability to produce all the things that we need here, right?

01:24:42.000 Like the continent itself.

01:24:44.000 Is basically uninvadable.

01:24:46.000 You know, you can't, no one's ever going to be able to invade the United States.

01:24:49.000 You've got the Rockies on one side, you've got the Appalachians on the other, you've got.

01:24:54.000 It makes for a great movie.

01:24:55.000 It does, doesn't it?

01:24:55.000 Yeah, it does.

01:24:56.000 I mean, just look.

01:24:58.000 Red Dawn, the remake.

01:25:01.000 Remember the original, not the remake, with Frederick Swayze.

01:25:06.000 The original was good.

01:25:07.000 The original was good.

01:25:10.000 But look, I mean, the geography of the United States is.

01:25:14.000 Like, I understand why the.

01:25:17.000 The people that came here and, and, you know, created this country.

01:25:22.000 I understand why they thought that it was divine providence.

01:25:24.000 You look at the Mississippi basin, like the Mississippi is a unique river in the whole, in the whole world, basically, right?

01:25:31.000 It's very, very, there's not a lot of rapids, and you can get to the entire interior.

01:25:36.000 If you look at the watershed for the Mississippi, you know, it's like it covers like 35 or 40% of the whole country.

01:25:44.000 You can get all the way up to like North Dakota on the Mississippi, and it's all generally pretty flat, and it's easy to, There's no rapids you can traverse the whole thing, and that's part of why we're such an economic powerhouse.

01:25:55.000 We can do anything in the United States that we really need to.

01:26:00.000 We have all the natural resources, we're an oil exporter, we have all of the rare earth metals that China does.

01:26:09.000 We just haven't mined them.

01:26:11.000 We're the place that makes the silicone that everybody uses for their chips.

01:26:17.000 It comes out of North Carolina.

01:26:19.000 Like all of the chips, it's 99.99999% pure.

01:26:24.000 You have to make the crucible out of the silicone because when you're trying to grow the silicone, the wafers are basically they make a tube of silicone and they chop it into like a millimeter thick.

01:26:38.000 You have to make the crucible out of the same silicone because it'll contaminate it.

01:26:42.000 It has to be pure, and it's the purest silicone in the world.

01:26:47.000 And all the silicone chips that go everywhere, it all comes from North Carolina.

01:26:52.000 There's one mine in North Carolina.

01:26:53.000 We have everything we need, so why should we just say, okay, We're going to go ahead and give up.

01:26:58.000 That's one of the things that I actually really, really like about Trump he's like, no, we're pro America and we're going to keep America as the preeminent power in the world.

01:27:06.000 And there's no reason we shouldn't do that.

01:27:08.000 Yeah.

01:27:10.000 This is going to sound really callous, but this is a thought experiment.

01:27:14.000 For example, there used to be a time when the UK was called the British Empire, right?

01:27:21.000 Meaning they would go and expand into Africa and South Africa.

01:27:26.000 And you had, what, French Guyana? 0.65

01:27:28.000 You had like the French would go and colonize places.

01:27:31.000 Spain went and took the Philippines. 0.99

01:27:33.000 There was a time where conquest was not a bad word. 0.98

01:27:40.000 It was just what we did.

01:27:42.000 There used to be a saying, I think it was in the UK or the British, the sun never goes down on the British Empire, because it's a global empire, all the way to Hawaii and all that.

01:27:55.000 So it's interesting to me that when we're doing expansion, because technically that's what it is Cuba would be expansion.

01:28:05.000 Venezuela will be expansion.

01:28:06.000 If we get into Greenland, that will be expansion, right?

01:28:09.000 Now, I'm not saying that that's like some war of conquest, but it's still expansionism.

01:28:14.000 It's still us claiming territory, and maybe just if only in name only.

01:28:21.000 We're not saying this is going to be the next state of the United States.

01:28:23.000 Venezuela is going to be the next state of the United States.

01:28:25.000 It's never a state, but the thing is, it's this mentality of, I mean, I understand, especially in the latter half of the 20th century, certainly into where we're at right now with more of this liberal.

01:28:37.000 Progressive kind of thing.

01:28:38.000 We're embarrassed that, you know, that we did all this stuff and stolen lands and everything else.

01:28:42.000 I'm like, why don't we think in the opposite terms anymore?

01:28:46.000 Why don't we think in terms of like conquest?

01:28:48.000 Why don't we think in terms of like, you know, the British Empire, the French going out to wherever they did, us going into, I mean, we took Hawaii, right?

01:28:54.000 Right.

01:28:55.000 And Alaska, well, we bought Alaska, I guess.

01:28:56.000 But the thing is, is that, you know, expansionism is not necessarily a bad thing, especially if it protects your own interests.

01:29:03.000 This came up earlier, we're talking about Cuba, because when the Americans, Basically, they freed Cuba from the Spanish Empire in 1898.

01:29:10.000 They call it the Spanish American War.

01:29:12.000 They decided, okay, now we have Cuba.

01:29:14.000 What are we going to do? 0.84

01:29:15.000 Let's free Cuba. 0.91

01:29:16.000 Let's not do the empirical conquistador thing.

01:29:18.000 We're not taking it for ourselves.

01:29:19.000 We're going to let Cuba be a free, sovereign piece of land.

01:29:22.000 And it became that.

01:29:23.000 And then it became a communist dictatorship because we had given it away for free. 0.91

01:29:27.000 Had we made it ours, had we taken it and conquered it, it would probably be a beautiful American state right now. 0.91

01:29:32.000 So it's sort of an argument for conquest.

01:29:37.000 Colonialism was an unmitigated good.

01:29:41.000 I know that people are going to get worked up on that. 0.99

01:29:43.000 Bro, your niche is going to love that one.

01:29:45.000 Did you hear what Philip Monte said?

01:29:48.000 It was.

01:29:50.000 It produced all the colonized areas and all the countries that were colonized.

01:29:57.000 They have a better society now because of it.

01:30:00.000 It definitely helped uniform technology and enhance the speed that technology grows.

01:30:04.000 We have running water, electricity, and it was able to centralize in the British Empire.

01:30:09.000 All the foods were able to centralize it, and they could spread it out to their colonies.

01:30:12.000 The British ended slavery globally.

01:30:15.000 The British ended slavery.

01:30:18.000 There are still some places that do have it.

01:30:20.000 But when the British said, we're not doing slavery anymore in the colonies, and you're not doing slavery anymore either, that was an unmitigated good. 0.87

01:30:30.000 And it was the British that did that. 0.60

01:30:32.000 They did.

01:30:35.000 My brain's going to the corporations now because then the British East India Company took over.

01:30:39.000 That was the biggest military on the planet, I think, at that time.

01:30:42.000 Dutch East India Company.

01:30:43.000 It was the Dutch East India Company, it was the biggest military on the planet.

01:30:45.000 And it was a corporation.

01:30:46.000 So, like with the conquest of Mars that we're about to see on the horizon, the conquest of the moon, probably orbital conquest, I don't know how that's going to work.

01:30:54.000 Like space locations.

01:30:56.000 There's nobody on Mars to colonize.

01:30:59.000 Yeah, there's no one to kill.

01:31:01.000 We'll just colonize it without having to displace it.

01:31:03.000 There has to be a reason for us to go there.

01:31:04.000 I'm thinking that's going to be something we really need.

01:31:06.000 It might be corporate.

01:31:08.000 Is Mars going to be a place for all mankind?

01:31:10.000 If you play that game, terraforming Mars, it's corporations that take it and colonize it.

01:31:16.000 So, it's like Shadowrun Future.

01:31:18.000 IBM will have a piece, X, SpaceX will have a piece.

01:31:21.000 What's the number after trillionaires?

01:31:23.000 What's the next level?

01:31:24.000 Yeah, quadrillionaires.

01:31:24.000 Quadrillionaires?

01:31:26.000 CNN's going to be reporting about Elon Musk being a quadrillionaire.

01:31:28.000 Well, I mean, look, space is real big, man.

01:31:30.000 Yeah.

01:31:30.000 You know, and if you're mining asteroids.

01:31:32.000 They're going to own Mars.

01:31:33.000 Well, yeah.

01:31:34.000 I mean, look, if you believe Musk, the point of going there is to make sure.

01:31:39.000 We are getting into the expanse, right?

01:31:41.000 If you believe Musk, the point of going there is to make sure that if something catastrophic happens on Earth, there's another place for human beings to go.

01:31:48.000 Can we make Mars a communist utopia?

01:31:50.000 Where everybody owns everything?

01:31:50.000 No.

01:31:52.000 No, the gravity is too low.

01:31:52.000 No.

01:31:54.000 Oh, Phil escapes.

01:31:55.000 Too slow.

01:31:56.000 We've got to be able to run faster.

01:31:56.000 There's no real communist.

01:31:58.000 Yes, you'll run much faster.

01:32:00.000 That's interesting.

01:32:01.000 Problem with this.

01:32:02.000 Helicopters work differently on Mars, man.

01:32:05.000 They crash into each other.

01:32:07.000 If we don't make it a pure communist utopia for real with technology somehow where people collectively own the space, it's going to be corporately controlled or.

01:32:16.000 It'll be, well, it's likely that it'll be SpaceX.

01:32:19.000 Is this the plot of Interstellar?

01:32:20.000 Have you guys seen Interstellar?

01:32:21.000 I think we just tucked the plot.

01:32:22.000 Was it corporations that were colonizing?

01:32:24.000 No, you have to watch For All Mankind.

01:32:26.000 For All Mankind is pretty, actually, it's turned into a decent show.

01:32:29.000 You had to leave this solar system, you had to leave the Milky Way to survive because.

01:32:34.000 Anyway, Interstellar.

01:32:35.000 It's a good movie.

01:32:36.000 I don't know.

01:32:37.000 I'm super sensitive to corporate governance.

01:32:39.000 I love it when we get on these topics.

01:32:41.000 Space?

01:32:43.000 No, just science fiction.

01:32:46.000 You think we get to Venus?

01:32:47.000 He wants to talk about companies.

01:32:49.000 Corporate governance.

01:32:50.000 He wants to talk about companies.

01:32:52.000 I'm down to talk about space exploration and conquest.

01:32:54.000 The corporations, they want to do it.

01:32:54.000 Wait a minute.

01:32:58.000 They had environmental social governance, which was ESG.

01:33:00.000 They were trying to do all this out of Switzerland.

01:33:04.000 That wasn't.

01:33:05.000 That wasn't so much corporations that were doing it.

01:33:08.000 There were motivated people trying to impose that on corporations.

01:33:13.000 Yeah, the World Economic Forum, they were trying to get the corporations to govern.

01:33:17.000 They want to displace nationalism with corporatocracy.

01:33:20.000 So I'm concerned with that.

01:33:23.000 And that is, I identify with the communists.

01:33:25.000 They're like, look, the corporations are too big.

01:33:26.000 They have too much power.

01:33:28.000 We need people to take the power back.

01:33:31.000 And then that breeds the communist mentality of like, we together are strong.

01:33:35.000 And then inevitably a small group of people gets into power.

01:33:38.000 And then seizes control, which they call the Vanguard.

01:33:40.000 I mean, you could still.

01:33:40.000 You know, it's.

01:33:41.000 I mean, okay, well, let's, let's like reel this back to planet Earth. 0.57

01:33:46.000 We started off with British colonization is how we got here, right?

01:33:48.000 Exactly.

01:33:48.000 We're talking about expansionism and stuff, but like, we also don't live in the times of the British Empire now.

01:33:54.000 I mean, we still have corporations, but the corporations that we have in the 21st century are nothing like the Dutch East India Company, right?

01:34:01.000 So you also have to consider that if we're moving into countries like Venezuela or we're moving into, hey, Trump says, Hey, we're going to give the people of Cuba a lot of money.

01:34:12.000 We're going to help you guys out.

01:34:13.000 Well, where's that coming from?

01:34:15.000 Where's the money?

01:34:15.000 Is it coming from the U.S. taxpayers or is it coming from corporate interests?

01:34:19.000 Is he selling rights to something that we don't know about in Cuba?

01:34:22.000 Or, for instance, there might be military contracts in Greenland that we need to build, like bases or airstrips or something like that.

01:34:29.000 You're still promising those contracts and those business deals to the military industrial complex, too.

01:34:35.000 So there has to be, you've got to be able to balance the The corporate interests with the government, the populist interests as well.

01:34:42.000 When you can get those two to sort of like dovetail into each other, that's when you're cooking.

01:34:48.000 But you also have to look at, like, say, like, communist China is ostensibly communist because it's really oligarchs and it's really major corporate interests that are ostensibly communists.

01:35:01.000 The government is communist because it's what they need to keep that population, the billions population.

01:35:09.000 In check, but who's really pulling the strings in China?

01:35:13.000 It's corporations.

01:35:14.000 Yeah, they're not communists.

01:35:15.000 They say it and they lie.

01:35:17.000 Communism means that all the people in the country collectively own the stuff together.

01:35:22.000 China is just another instance of vanguardism.

01:35:24.000 It's the same thing Lenin, when he got his communist movement and tricked everyone into thinking, they established what's called a vanguard, which is a small group of people that take control of the military.

01:35:33.000 And they're just going to be there temporarily, is what they say.

01:35:35.000 Same with the CCP.

01:35:36.000 It's a vanguard party.

01:35:37.000 It's just going to be temporary, guys, until we make a real communist.

01:35:40.000 But then they all, both in the Soviet Union and in China, they betrayed the people with a vanguard.

01:35:45.000 Any communist nation turns out to be a small dictatorial group.

01:35:49.000 It has yet to be explored or potentially shown that it can function as a national government.

01:35:54.000 Like in a tiny group of six people, you could easily have a communist set up.

01:35:57.000 Where everyone works their ass off and everyone gets what they need.

01:36:00.000 That's fine.

01:36:00.000 But it doesn't scale, at least not yet because you have middlemen.

01:36:03.000 Yeah, and it never will scale because human nature is competition.

01:36:08.000 Human nature is wanting to outdo the next dude.

01:36:10.000 Human nature is essentially capitalism, really.

01:36:13.000 It's a hierarchy.

01:36:14.000 And when you try to force that hierarchy into this egalitarian, you know, doing everything in a circle, it doesn't work because sooner or later, human nature is going to take over and some guy is going to want more than the next guy because he gets more pussy for that or he gets a good car for that or he gets a better house for that or something else.

01:36:32.000 So, there's always that want to outdo.

01:36:34.000 I mean, and that's, by the way, that's a good thing.

01:36:38.000 That's what keeps us from stagnating.

01:36:39.000 That's what keeps us, that's what keeps innovation going.

01:36:42.000 I want to do something more.

01:36:44.000 Why?

01:36:44.000 Well, because I want to win.

01:36:46.000 I want to fucking win. 0.98

01:36:47.000 Yeah, but if you win too much, guys like Mondani say you can't have a trillionaire. 0.98

01:36:52.000 You want a little too much, pal.

01:36:53.000 Well, you know, I want to win.

01:36:55.000 I want you to win.

01:36:55.000 And you don't want me to win, so guess what happens next?

01:36:58.000 I want a bunch of trillionaires.

01:37:00.000 I want Jeff Bezos to be a trillionaire.

01:37:02.000 I'm not going to say that.

01:37:02.000 You know what?

01:37:03.000 Come join me.

01:37:03.000 Let's go.

01:37:04.000 I mean, I think the realisticness of People becoming trillionaires is not real, but multimillionaire, billionaire.

01:37:04.000 Come join me.

01:37:10.000 Yeah, look, when SpaceX went public, there were like 4,400 new millionaires in the U.S. Is that right?

01:37:17.000 That's for them.

01:37:17.000 Wow.

01:37:18.000 For owning stock because SpaceX was paying their people in money and stock options.

01:37:23.000 And the people that took it, one of the dudes was a janitor.

01:37:27.000 One of the people was a cook for SpaceX.

01:37:29.000 And they're millionaires now because generational wealth overnight.

01:37:34.000 And there's a bunch of people, it was like 400 people that made over $100 million.

01:37:38.000 Now, probably those are people that were in the upper.

01:37:41.000 Echelon of the management and stuff, but still, like when you go, your company goes public and you make people, you know, 4,400 people millionaires.

01:37:49.000 Yep.

01:37:50.000 Like that's not oppressing people.

01:37:51.000 That is not oppressing people.

01:37:52.000 The people that work at SpaceX and the people that work for these companies, like they have good things that are happening for them.

01:37:59.000 And companies like Amazon or companies like Walmart, like if it wasn't for Amazon, tons of Americans couldn't get the things that they need on a daily basis sent to their house.

01:38:10.000 They'd have to go ahead and go to the store or whatever.

01:38:14.000 Things like Walmart, like they make, they make product or they provide products that are inexpensive generally, and people that don't have a lot of money can go and get the stuff they need.

01:38:23.000 This isn't, you know, and they provide a bunch of jobs.

01:38:25.000 Now, granted, they're not the greatest jobs, but look, people need, you know, people need to be able to pay their bills somehow.

01:38:32.000 And if they, if you don't have these big companies, then you lose all the jobs that go along with them.

01:38:37.000 And the other thing about that is you want to be able to at least entertain the idea, as hopeless or as hopeful as it might be, that you can better your state at some point along the way.

01:38:47.000 Right.

01:38:48.000 You know, I might be living not the way I want to now, but because I'm doing this, I'm working towards a goal, I'm competing, I'm doing something else.

01:38:56.000 But maybe somewhere down the line, I'm going to be doing better.

01:38:59.000 My kids might be doing better.

01:39:01.000 Even if it's just the promise of that.

01:39:03.000 See, that's the thing I've mentioned this on my show several times is that the defining state that defines humanity is really discontent.

01:39:14.000 It's not contentment.

01:39:16.000 And that's a good thing.

01:39:17.000 It's good to be discontent.

01:39:19.000 Right.

01:39:20.000 Because that's what drives innovation.

01:39:22.000 That's what drives, you know.

01:39:23.000 I want to do something.

01:39:24.000 I want to create something.

01:39:25.000 I want to do something more.

01:39:27.000 So people will say, well, you know, I'm going to go get my degree at this four year college.

01:39:32.000 Okay, I got it.

01:39:33.000 Now what do I want?

01:39:34.000 Oh, my master's degree.

01:39:34.000 Okay.

01:39:35.000 I got my master's degree.

01:39:35.000 I want to get my doctor's degree.

01:39:37.000 There's always some other.

01:39:39.000 You might be content for a little while, but the fundamental nature of human beings is discontent.

01:39:45.000 It defines a human condition is discontent.

01:39:49.000 The problem with communism or, okay, let's say Marxism, because I don't want to split hair, but it's going to tell me that's not the communism.

01:39:56.000 Marxism, let's just go with that.

01:39:58.000 The reason why I was mentioning that Marxism had an incomplete understanding of human nature is because it never takes into account the defining human state of discontent.

01:40:10.000 Discontent is a feature, not a bug.

01:40:15.000 That's what keeps us going.

01:40:16.000 We don't stagnate.

01:40:17.000 But when we're put into a condition where we're supposed to be content with what we're given, you're going to own nothing and be happy.

01:40:25.000 No, you're at the knot.

01:40:28.000 Because you're going to be discontent.

01:40:30.000 There's always going to be something.

01:40:31.000 There's going to be a new mountain to climb.

01:40:33.000 There's always going to be a new challenge to go after.

01:40:36.000 And one of the reasons I think that a lot of this generation's young men today are so despondent right now, for lack of a better term, is because they're told that they should be content and they don't know why they're discontent, right?

01:40:52.000 Because they don't have any new frontiers to go conquer.

01:40:55.000 You want to know why video games are such an immersive.

01:41:00.000 You know, sedation for young men today is because it gives them the it gives them an artificial experience of a frontier or competition. 0.88

01:41:08.000 You want to know how comp how competitive like Gen Z young men are? 0.60

01:41:12.000 Yeah, watch them play Fortnite, watch them play any any first person shooter game, and you'll see just how competitive they can be, right? 0.59

01:41:20.000 And it's again, it's like so the the fundamental defining state of humanity is really discontent and it's not contentment.

01:41:27.000 And like I said, that's a feature and not a bug, and so any.

01:41:30.000 Form of government or organizing society that doesn't take that into account is doomed to fail.

01:41:35.000 Yeah.

01:41:36.000 And I'll just, I know you want to switch gears here.

01:41:38.000 I just want to add one thing to that on top of it.

01:41:40.000 I agree with everything you just said and also the ideology within the members of that society.

01:41:46.000 If we're both making 100 grand right now and you make 25 grand next year, that don't mean I make 75 grand now.

01:41:52.000 There's plenty of space for growth where we all can make that 125.

01:41:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:41:57.000 And people that are anti this ideology just don't think that's the case.

01:42:02.000 It's one taken from the other.

01:42:03.000 Yeah, they have the idea that there's a finite amount of money or a finite amount of whatever, and that the goal isn't to try to produce more.

01:42:13.000 The goal is to make sure that everyone has a certain amount of what exists with people that have a producing mindset.

01:42:21.000 They're like, we can make more.

01:42:22.000 Well, and I talk about this on my page a lot of times, too.

01:42:24.000 It's like, why do you hate on somebody for winning?

01:42:27.000 You could join that person and win as well.

01:42:29.000 It doesn't mean just because he won, you lost.

01:42:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:32.000 We were talking before the show today, we were talking about people that have a.

01:42:37.000 Like, I call it the team good times and team bum out, right?

01:42:43.000 If you're on team good times, then something bad happens or whatever, right?

01:42:50.000 Like, if you're on team good times and something bad happens, we were actually relating this.

01:42:53.000 I was talking about being on tour with the band and stuff.

01:42:56.000 We were just on tour, and bad stuff happens, right?

01:42:59.000 Like, we had our tour manager the very first day of the tour, he got a call and he found out that his grandfather was in hospice.

01:43:08.000 And so he's gonna have to leave the tour.

01:43:10.000 And it was like, all right, well, this is our tour manager and he's doing sound too.

01:43:13.000 So we're like, all right, well, how do we fix this, right? 0.93

01:43:15.000 And because we have everybody in the band on Team Good Times, we're like, all right, well, this sucks.

01:43:21.000 And, you know, we know you got to go, and like we're, we know you got to take care of your family first and stuff.

01:43:26.000 So, how are we going to get through this?

01:43:27.000 How we, you know, what are we going to do? 0.98

01:43:28.000 If you're on Team Bum Out, you're like, oh man, this sucks.

01:43:32.000 Our tour is screwed, and we're not going to be able to play the shows, and we're going to blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:43:37.000 And, you know, like your attitude towards whatever, you know, presents itself is really, really, really important.

01:43:45.000 And if you have the attitude, if you have like a negative mindset, or you have the mindset of, oh, you know, look, this isn't, I can't do this, like you were saying, like, You have the attitude of, I'm going to lose out if this other person does well.

01:43:58.000 That is a terrible, terrible way to go through life.

01:44:00.000 You have to be on team good times.

01:44:02.000 There's a balance in business.

01:44:03.000 You need good mentality, optimism.

01:44:06.000 Pessimism in business should get you fired if you're trying to poison the minds of the executives.

01:44:11.000 Get out.

01:44:13.000 You can't be an entrepreneur and have a negative mindset.

01:44:16.000 There's the situations where Trump will be like, it's the best we've ever had.

01:44:19.000 We're breaking records and it's like lies.

01:44:21.000 And you're like, okay, you do want to be optimistic, but also you want to be realistic.

01:44:26.000 But maybe you do want to trick people in business and lead them towards your goal if it's even if there's pitfalls in the way.

01:44:32.000 But it's like there's other people who are like, it's all terrible and it's failing and we need to.

01:44:36.000 So, I mean, either extreme probably is a big problem.

01:44:39.000 No.

01:44:40.000 Extreme optimism to the point where you have to lie to people about it.

01:44:43.000 I totally disagree.

01:44:44.000 Extreme pessimism where you can't get your stuff out.

01:44:46.000 What Trump does is actually BSing people, right?

01:44:49.000 And if you're, it's one thing to BS people, and it's totally different to be like, no, I'm going to take these risks.

01:44:57.000 And I'm going to figure out how to solve the problems that are inevitably going to arise.

01:45:01.000 That's like, that's team good times.

01:45:03.000 If you're just like, well, I'm going to lie about it, you can't realistically have a business and then just lie about the results all the time because you'll end up crashing, destroying your business.

01:45:12.000 Well, I don't disagree with what you said.

01:45:15.000 I don't completely agree, but I think if you look at it in the framework of a corporation, compare what Trump's doing with a business.

01:45:22.000 All right.

01:45:23.000 In that situation, if this guy gets the promotion, there's only one spot for that assistant manager job.

01:45:29.000 He got that, and you can't get it.

01:45:29.000 You did lose out.

01:45:32.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:32.000 Now, if that really bothers you, there's alternatives.

01:45:34.000 Go be an entrepreneur, create your own jobs, and take your future into your own hands.

01:45:38.000 And I talk about that a lot.

01:45:41.000 But I think Trump's approach, and I agree with the way you framed it, actually.

01:45:45.000 But I think Trump has to look at this like, all right, not everyone's going to be that winning entrepreneur.

01:45:53.000 We've got to take an approach that, all right, you're doing something here that matters, you know, collectively.

01:45:59.000 Yeah.

01:45:59.000 So.

01:46:00.000 All right, we're going to go to your super chat.

01:46:03.000 Oh, I was going to say, we're going to do a Las Vegas story here.

01:46:06.000 We're going to talk about this in the after show, actually.

01:46:08.000 Oh, in the after show.

01:46:09.000 Okay.

01:46:09.000 Yeah, where it's safe.

01:46:10.000 Yeah, because, you know, you don't want to.

01:46:13.000 Yeah.

01:46:13.000 This is a spicy topic and can very easily turn into a problem for YouTube.

01:46:21.000 So we're going to go to your super chat.

01:46:22.000 So head on over to timcast.com, become a member, go to Rumble and join Rumble so you can watch the after show, smash the like button, share the show with all your friends, tell everybody you know.

01:46:32.000 That you watch Tim cast and tell them that they should as well.

01:46:36.000 So, right now we got, let's see, we're going to go to your Rumble rants first.

01:46:40.000 Let's see, what do we got?

01:46:43.000 Oh, from Connor SO2.

01:46:46.000 Baby Theodore was born on July 4th, the semi quintennial.

01:46:51.000 There you go.

01:46:54.000 Semi quintennial.

01:46:56.000 He's a strong baby and will one day lead millions.

01:46:59.000 Theodore is a great name, I must say.

01:47:01.000 But congratulations to you for having a son.

01:47:05.000 That's good to hear.

01:47:06.000 Good, bold on him.

01:47:07.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:47:08.000 Have more.

01:47:08.000 Yeah, have more.

01:47:10.000 Have more.

01:47:11.000 Let's see.

01:47:13.000 From Hans 1PK says they are buying non voting shares rather than doing bailouts.

01:47:19.000 It's not communism like Ian likes to say.

01:47:22.000 What do you have to say about that, Ian?

01:47:24.000 They're buying shares, and they're not voting shares, and they're not buying a controlling interest.

01:47:28.000 They're not picking up over 51% of anything.

01:47:28.000 Right.

01:47:30.000 So it's like investing in the company?

01:47:32.000 Is that still.

01:47:34.000 They own 10% of a bunch of different companies?

01:47:36.000 It's a very BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street model of corporate ownership 10% of a bunch of different stuff.

01:47:42.000 10% of IBM, 10% of Apple, 10% of Microsoft.

01:47:45.000 You own stocks, don't you?

01:47:46.000 Palantir?

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:49.000 I don't know how deep Palantir is.

01:47:50.000 Palantir is public, I believe, yeah.

01:47:52.000 Yeah.

01:47:52.000 But do you own stocks?

01:47:53.000 Yeah.

01:47:54.000 I mean, it's the same thing.

01:47:56.000 Like I said, I don't have a problem with the government owning a, you know, purchasing stocks, especially when they're in, you know, corporations or when they're in industries that are necessary for national security.

01:48:07.000 I'm with it, but the downside of kind of what Rollo was saying earlier is like you want competition and you want to know that I can come from nothing and win.

01:48:14.000 But if I want to start a tech company, but the government's favorite is IBM and I can't get off the ground because everyone's with IBM now because it's the sure thing that completely destroys the ethos of the United States capitalistic market.

01:48:28.000 So, you got to be careful.

01:48:30.000 It's a slippery road, and it's only going on for like two years.

01:48:32.000 Yeah, we'll have to see.

01:48:34.000 It has been intensely for two years.

01:48:37.000 Let's see.

01:48:38.000 AK Storm says I think of every embarrassing thing I did in high school and question if I could run for a local school board.

01:48:44.000 What the hell is Platinum thinking?

01:48:46.000 Look, man, I've said it before.

01:48:49.000 I am never going to run for anything.

01:48:51.000 I will never hold any public office.

01:48:55.000 I spent a lot of time on tour in a band, and a lot of that time I spent drunk.

01:48:59.000 So.

01:49:00.000 There will never, I feel your comment.

01:49:03.000 I understand what you're saying.

01:49:04.000 She said he was intoxicated.

01:49:05.000 Maybe you don't remember.

01:49:06.000 Well, I mean, I know I've never done that, but, you know, the whole, like, you know, who was the history candidate?

01:49:13.000 The Supreme Court justice got confirmed during Me Too.

01:49:17.000 Kavanaugh?

01:49:17.000 What was it?

01:49:18.000 Kavanaugh, yeah.

01:49:19.000 They just lied about it.

01:49:19.000 Wow.

01:49:21.000 He went up a girl's shirt.

01:49:22.000 You were 16 at that kegger party in the backyard there and you pulled that girl's pigtails.

01:49:26.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:49:27.000 You unsnapped her bra when you were 14. 0.99

01:49:29.000 Christine Blasey Ford and all that. 0.99

01:49:32.000 Like that whole thing, I was just like, this is so ridiculous. 0.97

01:49:35.000 And the Democrats were so, like, just clutching their pose. 0.99

01:49:39.000 How terrible, how terrible.

01:49:41.000 And then, like, you know, Platinum's got actual people that are making accusations.

01:49:48.000 It was basically so they could weaponize it because they thought they were going to get Trump with Stormy Daniels.

01:49:53.000 That never flew.

01:49:53.000 Yeah.

01:49:54.000 How can we use this?

01:49:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:56.000 Let's go back in time.

01:49:56.000 Oh, Kevin Owens.

01:49:58.000 Let's go back in time and see if we can get him.

01:50:01.000 Before social media, before the age of TV and radio, like, horrible men did great.

01:50:06.000 Things for the world many, many times.

01:50:08.000 And now it's where this age of like where people are gauging your ethics, your behavior, and your personal life.

01:50:17.000 And like, we got to be real careful that we don't devolve into like stopping evil men from doing great things because we still need great things to be done, whether it comes from a demonic, womanizing, lying, gambling addict or, you know, daddy's little girl. 0.99

01:50:32.000 I don't give a shit. 0.99

01:50:32.000 It's the good thing needs to get done. 0.99

01:50:34.000 So we don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot with virtue.

01:50:37.000 I'm going to channel my inner Mike Sartane right now.

01:50:42.000 We have, we have, we elected the president twice. 0.98

01:50:45.000 This guy who actually was cheating on his wife while she was pregnant with a porn star. 0.98

01:50:50.000 Nobody cares. 0.58

01:50:52.000 We still re elected that guy, right?

01:50:55.000 We had, what, O.J. Simpson, right?

01:50:58.000 You know, he was partying at Jing right up until he died, right?

01:51:02.000 Nobody cares, right?

01:51:04.000 Just, I mean, think about all of the, oh, what was it?

01:51:06.000 Wolf of Wall Street.

01:51:07.000 What's the guy who was the new?

01:51:09.000 Jordan Balfour, right?

01:51:09.000 Jordan Balfour.

01:51:10.000 Punches his pregnant wife in the gut to, you know, to abort the baby, gets a movie made about him, and is one of the top paid inspirational speakers still to sales coaches.

01:51:24.000 Nobody cares.

01:51:26.000 No one cares.

01:51:28.000 So, after, like, that's the whole thing that was funny about, like, the Kavanaugh thing is like, no, like, me too, me too.

01:51:34.000 Nobody cares.

01:51:35.000 No one is going to care.

01:51:36.000 Everybody's moved on to the next news cycle right after that.

01:51:39.000 So, there's a balance because you don't want psychedelics.

01:51:43.000 Psychopaths doing evil and teaching the world to be more evil, but you're saying that someone's an evil person.

01:51:48.000 Even the guy who, what's the guy's name in Maine?

01:51:52.000 Platner.

01:51:53.000 Platner.

01:51:54.000 You're going to forget about him in two weeks once he's pulling out, let's just be honest.

01:51:59.000 Once he pulls out, you won't even remember.

01:52:02.000 I can't even remember his name right now.

01:52:03.000 Because nobody's going to care about that guy come November, the second Tuesday of November.

01:52:10.000 It'll go away.

01:52:12.000 I agree with all that.

01:52:13.000 You know what part of pissed me off, though?

01:52:16.000 Like cops, like people are not being cops now because of the public scrutiny. 0.99

01:52:21.000 And there's definitely, to your point, I think this was part of your point at least, people that just don't go into politics because they don't want to deal with this bullshit. 0.99

01:52:28.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:52:29.000 That could have been great, great, great politicians.

01:52:31.000 Yeah.

01:52:31.000 I mean, look, it's a question of is it worth it?

01:52:34.000 You know, it's like, especially people that are really successful. 0.97

01:52:37.000 Well, also, especially if you don't know if you're going to fucking, or excuse me, I'm sorry. 0.97

01:52:39.000 Especially if you don't know. 0.98

01:52:40.000 I knew it was going to happen.

01:52:41.000 Sorry.

01:52:42.000 It's okay.

01:52:43.000 It's okay.

01:52:44.000 We're still late in the show.

01:52:45.000 You're good now.

01:52:46.000 Dude, I swear, John.

01:52:47.000 This is not your Instagram.

01:52:48.000 But, um, Oh, no, I forgot what I was going to say.

01:52:50.000 Oh, especially if you don't know you're going to win.

01:52:53.000 Yeah.

01:52:53.000 So you know you got this history.

01:52:54.000 You don't even know if you're going to win the damn thing. 0.99

01:52:56.000 And you, you know. 0.99

01:52:57.000 Yeah.

01:52:58.000 And it's like you get people that are very successful in business and whatever.

01:53:02.000 What's the incentive to leave what they're doing?

01:53:04.000 Yeah.

01:53:04.000 To go.

01:53:05.000 I mean, just for an example, you look at Elon Musk, right?

01:53:08.000 Yeah.

01:53:09.000 He was a darling of the left.

01:53:10.000 They loved him, blah, And as soon as he's like, oh, you know, I'm going to start talking about politics, you know, they started blowing up Tesla dealerships, blowing up the Green Yard.

01:53:21.000 He was going to save. 0.98

01:53:22.000 He's crazy.

01:53:23.000 He's going to save the environment because he's got solar.

01:53:26.000 He bought Solar City and turned it into Tesla Solar and he's making batteries.

01:53:30.000 He's got electric cars and blah, And then as soon as he has the wrong opinion, he has politically incorrect opinions.

01:53:38.000 They're firebombing Tesla dealerships and keying Teslas.

01:53:42.000 My Tesla, I had four tires get.

01:53:46.000 I ran over four different nails or whatever.

01:53:51.000 I replaced four tires over the course of about a month and a half or two months.

01:53:55.000 Because.

01:53:56.000 And it was all when this stuff was happening.

01:53:57.000 I never saw anyone do it.

01:53:58.000 I didn't know for sure.

01:54:00.000 But, I mean, it's like if all of your tires end up driving in the marrow.

01:54:03.000 That's a lot.

01:54:09.000 Those tires ain't cheap either, man.

01:54:10.000 That's true.

01:54:11.000 If you're thinking about going into politics, though, and you have a domestic battery, you have a DUI, you've done anything ever with somebody underage, you're going to have a very uphill battle.

01:54:22.000 I think we could all agree.

01:54:23.000 I could run for politics.

01:54:25.000 If you're going to have the most clear things, you might have a chance.

01:54:28.000 Lead with a confessional.

01:54:30.000 Yeah.

01:54:31.000 Let's see.

01:54:33.000 Marusha Dark, Marusia Dark 316 says, Practically speaking, what can be done about ethnic enclaves that are made up of legal immigrants and citizens to further incentivize integration?

01:54:48.000 I haven't really put a whole lot of thought into this.

01:54:50.000 I don't really know.

01:54:51.000 Move there when you're young. 1.00

01:54:52.000 Go live with them. 0.99

01:54:53.000 That's what I did.

01:54:54.000 It was highly recommended.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, well, he's talking about breaking them up so that way, breaking up the enclaves so that way you can make sure that people get integrated.

01:55:02.000 Help them integrate.

01:55:03.000 Well, I didn't want to break them up.

01:55:05.000 I just wanted to become part of the community to learn their customs.

01:55:08.000 They learned my customs.

01:55:10.000 We would hang out. 1.00

01:55:10.000 I'd hang out with a bunch of dudes that spoke only Spanish, a bunch of illegals. 1.00

01:55:14.000 Hung out in New York and Crown Heights with the black dudes, that whole, all of it, man. 1.00

01:55:20.000 If you want to be in like a cultural, if you want to affect culture, you got to go be part of that culture. 1.00

01:55:26.000 I mean, you don't got to.

01:55:27.000 But that's one way.

01:55:28.000 Nice.

01:55:29.000 Integrate with that culture.

01:55:29.000 You learn how to speak jive.

01:55:30.000 Change it from being set out every day, right?

01:55:32.000 You learn how to speak jive.

01:55:34.000 That's kind of not really what he's talking about.

01:55:37.000 He's talking about how do we make sure that, not how do we understand different cultures, but he's like, how do we get people that have immigrated here legally.

01:55:45.000 How do we get them to not live in enclaves so that they can actually become American?

01:55:51.000 I'm not saying the black dudes in Crown Heights were immigrants in an enclave. 0.85

01:55:55.000 I'm just saying they were dudes like little dudes. 0.84

01:55:57.000 But I'm saying that if you spend enough time in a cultural enclave, they'll see you as this benevolent outside force that they'll want to become more like.

01:56:06.000 From my experience, it helped Americanize these people.

01:56:10.000 They really wanted to become Americanized.

01:56:12.000 They didn't know any Americans because they all spoke Spanish.

01:56:14.000 So having me there was helpful for them, I think.

01:56:17.000 Uh-oh.

01:56:17.000 Interesting.

01:56:18.000 Yeah.

01:56:18.000 I mean, Chicago is a great example.

01:56:20.000 There's areas, I mean, if I follow what you're saying, there's areas in Chicago that's 100% Polish.

01:56:25.000 Like, you have the signs written in Polish.

01:56:27.000 The street signs are in Polish.

01:56:29.000 And another area in Chicago that's Indian food.

01:56:31.000 Some of the best Indian food you could find in the world, by the way.

01:56:33.000 But on Devon Avenue in Chicago, it's all Indian.

01:56:36.000 I think it kind of depends on the ethnicity that you're actually discussing, right?

01:56:40.000 Because, I mean, there are people who come to this country and they want to really be a part of the American experience, right?

01:56:48.000 Yeah.

01:56:49.000 And, I mean, I can understand why, you know, certain groups want to sort of hang on to their, you know, ethnic identity.

01:56:57.000 But then there's others that want to come to this.

01:56:59.000 Like, I have a lot of Filipino friends who come over here. 0.95

01:57:01.000 They don't want to, they don't want to still be, you know, they want the American experience.

01:57:05.000 They're Filipinos, right?

01:57:06.000 They might go back to the island, but they still want to have that experience.

01:57:09.000 Or Cubans, for example.

01:57:11.000 Like, I know a lot of Cubans because I spend a lot of time in Miami and stuff like that.

01:57:16.000 And by and large, they want to come to this country because they want the American dream for whatever that means to them.

01:57:22.000 When I was growing up, when I was in, like, Junior high school and high school, I lived in Pasadena, California.

01:57:28.000 And it was right at the time where there was an influx of Armenian immigrants at that time because of the genocide and everything that had been going on in their country.

01:57:36.000 So people were coming over into the United States.

01:57:38.000 And for whatever reason, Pasadena was one of their destinations.

01:57:41.000 And they were some of the coolest people ever.

01:57:43.000 Like, they fed me.

01:57:44.000 I mean, I actually today I like certain foods that are Armenian foods because I grew up with those because I had Armenian friends at that time.

01:57:51.000 But they wanted to come here and they wanted to be American.

01:57:54.000 And I'm wondering if there's just simply been a change of.

01:57:59.000 I don't know, a change of identity or a change of understanding.

01:58:02.000 I think it might depend on the group that comes over here.

01:58:07.000 Certain ethnicities want to be a part of the American experience and others simply want to retain their own ethnic identity.

01:58:13.000 I think that a lot of it has to do with which groups the government is actually helping to come over and how they're doing it.

01:58:22.000 If you've got people that are like, oh, we're refugees or we're looking for asylum, that's different than someone that's like, hey, look, man, I.

01:58:30.000 I saved up a bunch of money back in the old country and now I want to come to the U.S. and make my way in the U.S.

01:58:36.000 I think that it's a land of opportunity, right?

01:58:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:38.000 Coming to America.

01:58:40.000 Because if you come to the U.S. and you're coming because the United States is like, oh, we're going to help you escape this, you kind of, and I'm not saying definitely everyone, but I imagine you've kind of got the attitude or the mindset of, okay, they're going to take care of me.

01:58:56.000 And so when you get to the United States, you're looking for help from the United States.

01:59:01.000 If you come to the United States because you've saved up money and you've got some kind of, you're looking to get for economic opportunity, you've got the mindset of, I want to go to the U.S. to do something, as opposed to, I want to go to the U.S. for someone to help me.

01:59:16.000 Well, one of the guys who is one of my business partners, Miguel Munoz, he runs a podcast called Dollar Cost Crypto and he does Moon Gang, and he's one of the names in the crypto community.

01:59:28.000 He and his, actually his brother, his younger brother, Kyle, is my producer for my show, The Rational Mail, on Sundays.

01:59:34.000 But they are second generation immigrants from Mexico.

01:59:37.000 And they're here legally.

01:59:39.000 Don't call ICE.

01:59:40.000 They're here.

01:59:42.000 But they started out doing landscaping and everything, picked it up and built upon that and built and built and built to the point where he's now a crypto millionaire and believes in the American dream.

01:59:56.000 America is the greatest country in the world.

01:59:57.000 So to me, it's like I think it kind of depends on sort of the ethnic identity of who's coming into this country.

02:00:03.000 Maybe it's because of the hardship.

02:00:05.000 That they had to endure when there are other countries and they come here and they go, There's so much more opportunity here.

02:00:09.000 I want to be a part of this place.

02:00:11.000 Right.

02:00:12.000 And then there's other people who say, You know, like, well, you know, they might be Somali immigrants that go to France or wherever else. 1.00

02:00:18.000 And they're just like, they just want to make their own enclaves within that country because they're just, they're bringing those third world problems into a first world country and not really integrating into it. 0.98

02:00:29.000 They don't want to be part of the French experience. 0.99

02:00:31.000 They don't want to be part of the German experience or the Ireland has a lot of immigrants as well. 0.99

02:00:36.000 Right. 1.00

02:00:36.000 And they just simply don't want to be a part of. 1.00

02:00:38.000 Whatever that is, they just want their own enclave within that territory. 0.71

02:00:42.000 Well, you want something that's American to hopefully assimilate to, and then we could all argue about what that actually means.

02:00:49.000 We, us four, might agree, but there's people that wouldn't agree. 0.92

02:00:52.000 And I think the Somalis are a great example.

02:00:54.000 You lean into what's your comfort zone, okay? 0.96

02:00:57.000 Here I am, okay?

02:00:58.000 We'll go hang out with you. 0.62

02:00:59.000 We're going to go to the bar together, listen to some freaking Motley crew, or I'm going to hang out with other Somalis because I'm comfortable with them.

02:01:05.000 You know what I mean? 0.89

02:01:06.000 All right.

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02:01:16.000 Rolla, where can everyone find you?

02:01:17.000 You can find me at, well, you can find all my books on Amazon for the Rational Mail.

02:01:22.000 I have six books, not just one, but I am the author of the original Rational Mail book.

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02:01:51.000 Awesome.

02:01:52.000 John Sarasani, you can find me on Instagram, J O H N C E R A S A N I. All my books and other things I do is at 2000%Raise.com or just look at the link in my bio.

02:02:06.000 And Ian, I don't know why I just assumed Motley Crue would be the right analogy there.

02:02:11.000 You've got to look at the dark and dark.

02:02:14.000 I was singing Richie Blackmore, but okay, that's right.

02:02:17.000 I don't know.

02:02:18.000 Who's Richie Blackmore?

02:02:20.000 He's the lead guitarist for Rainbow.

02:02:21.000 I don't even know who Rainbow is either.

02:02:24.000 I'm amongst giants. 0.99

02:02:25.000 I'm going to turn you on some Rainbow. 0.83

02:02:25.000 You know what? 0.83

02:02:28.000 Smoke on the water, bro.

02:02:29.000 I like that.

02:02:33.000 I can name all the Molly crew members except the one you look like Nicky Six, Tommy Lee, Vince Neal.

02:02:38.000 And the other guy?

02:02:39.000 That's the one you look like.

02:02:41.000 We'll do some research.

02:02:42.000 Nick Burr, there you go.

02:02:43.000 Nick Burr, thank you.

02:02:44.000 There we go.

02:02:45.000 Thank you for it.

02:02:46.000 I appreciate it.

02:02:48.000 Only me and Phil knew that.

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02:02:59.000 Stick around for the Rumble After Show.

02:03:00.000 We are starting right now.

02:03:03.000 All right, let's get into it.

02:05:26.000 When they say something funny.

02:05:28.000 Welcome to the Rumble After Show.

02:05:28.000 Hey, what's up, everybody?

02:05:30.000 One of our guests has got kind of a heart out tonight, so we're going to go right to callers, right to the Discord callers.

02:05:37.000 So as soon as.

02:05:39.000 I got to join the room real quick.

02:05:41.000 Oh, boy.

02:05:41.000 Join it.

02:05:43.000 So I can.

02:05:44.000 Oh, I just got a pair of swim trunks delivered.

02:05:46.000 Thanks.

02:05:47.000 Oh, really?

02:05:48.000 I'm excited.

02:05:49.000 I brought swim trunks.

02:05:50.000 I was borrowing Brian's.

02:05:51.000 Oh.

02:05:52.000 I'll go to someone else's underwear.

02:05:52.000 Thank you, Brian.

02:05:55.000 Basically.

02:05:56.000 This is Jim Shorts.

02:05:56.000 Okay, here we go.

02:05:57.000 All right.

02:05:58.000 Calling live.

02:06:01.000 Carter's working the buttons.

02:06:02.000 I'm having this is all happening live.

02:06:04.000 Yeah, all right.

02:06:06.000 Yeah, okay, cool.

02:06:06.000 Oh, look at this.

02:06:07.000 Can you hear us?

02:06:10.000 I think they can hear us.

02:06:12.000 Yeah, we got callers on the line.

02:06:13.000 So, who do we got here?

02:06:14.000 You want to handle it or you got it?

02:06:16.000 How do you guys do callers?

02:06:17.000 Discord, Discord.

02:06:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:19.000 Do you take callers too?

02:06:20.000 No, but I've been wanting to.

02:06:23.000 We've been using Rumble's caller, but you have to have the Rumble app to call in.

02:06:27.000 Oh, so really.

02:06:28.000 Let's see.

02:06:29.000 Oh, we got nobody's muted here.

02:06:31.000 Nobody's muted.

02:06:33.000 We're not hearing anything here.

02:06:34.000 Hi, everybody.

02:06:36.000 We're all muted.

02:06:37.000 Oh, no.

02:06:38.000 All right.

02:06:38.000 We're sitting there.

02:06:39.000 Okay.

02:06:40.000 Let's mute.

02:06:46.000 We can.

02:06:47.000 No one ever got to that last story.

02:06:49.000 Yeah, we didn't talk about it.

02:06:50.000 So you can hear us in there.

02:06:51.000 So let's see.

02:06:51.000 Who do we got?

02:06:52.000 We got.

02:06:53.000 Meatloaf.

02:06:55.000 Yeah, Meatloaf of Ohio.

02:06:56.000 Meatloaf of Ohio.

02:06:57.000 What's up, man?

02:06:58.000 What's up, Meatloaf?

02:07:00.000 Hey, how's it going?

02:07:01.000 Meatloaf.

02:07:04.000 Meat load.

02:07:05.000 Meat load.

02:07:06.000 My apologies.

02:07:07.000 So much better.

02:07:10.000 So, how's it going tonight?

02:07:11.000 It's going all right.

02:07:12.000 We're in big bets.

02:07:12.000 Yeah.

02:07:13.000 It's good.

02:07:15.000 Weren't any big bets?

02:07:16.000 No.

02:07:17.000 Hey, Tim's not here.

02:07:18.000 Tim's not here right now.

02:07:19.000 I don't know yet.

02:07:20.000 I went all in against this guy who had pocket deuces.

02:07:24.000 I learned after the fact, like, dude, don't gamble everything you have on a 50 50 shot if you're good at a game.

02:07:30.000 Like, I'm too, my buddy was like, Brian Shapiro was like, you're too good at this game to risk 50 50 shots, dude. 1.00

02:07:36.000 Just Fold those shits. 1.00

02:07:37.000 I'm the guy who had jack shit. 1.00

02:07:38.000 I'm more of a fan of John's game. 0.99

02:07:40.000 I like blackjack.

02:07:41.000 Really?

02:07:42.000 You don't have to sit there for 12 hours since you game.

02:07:42.000 It's a lot quicker.

02:07:44.000 Like poker.

02:07:45.000 You're sitting there all day.

02:07:46.000 Blackjack is just getting out.

02:07:47.000 I went to the wind before I got here.

02:07:48.000 I was tight on time.

02:07:49.000 Played for eight minutes.

02:07:50.000 Won three grand.

02:07:51.000 Got up and left.

02:07:51.000 Really?

02:07:52.000 Hard to do that in poker.

02:07:53.000 As a guy who has, let's see, marketing experience in casino marketing for quite some time.

02:07:58.000 Actually, I was in Reno.

02:08:00.000 I will tell you right now, Craps is the only game that I will play because Craps is the only one where you actually have.

02:08:06.000 Like odds that you could actually be very little.

02:08:08.000 How's that?

02:08:09.000 It's not pure, is it not just pure randomness?

02:08:11.000 Well, I mean, I mean, a dice roll is always going to be pure randomness, but like you're still dealing with only a certain number of like permutations of numbers.

02:08:11.000 No, no.

02:08:19.000 So that's why essentially when you're doing a coming out roll, it's always going to be 50 50.

02:08:24.000 Like everything is meant to be that coin flip.

02:08:27.000 And then once you get that, then you're trying to shoot for a particular number. 0.95

02:08:31.000 And then you where you lose your ass is when you're putting money on like you know, one roll bets and things like that because you get excited about it. 0.97

02:08:38.000 Me load, what's your question, man? 0.99

02:08:39.000 How you doing?

02:08:41.000 So, I've got this 50 50 chat.

02:08:42.000 It's a book idea.

02:08:44.000 It's the title Schrdinger's McConnell, A Tale of Two Lovebirds.

02:08:48.000 Schrdinger's what?

02:08:49.000 McConnell?

02:08:50.000 Schrdinger's McConnell.

02:08:51.000 You know, Mitch might be alive or dead.

02:08:54.000 Oh, okay.

02:08:55.000 Okay.

02:08:56.000 I'm tracking.

02:08:56.000 Okay.

02:08:57.000 You know, there's a little mystery there.

02:09:00.000 So, we got a little debate going on there.

02:09:02.000 Then his wife, you know, his beautiful wife, she took this little adventure over to China.

02:09:08.000 I heard about that.

02:09:09.000 She met with the vice president, something, a vice something over there.

02:09:14.000 And it was just really interesting that his wife would leave his side after he had some kind of a heart attack or fainting or something and go over to China to represent some kind of something.

02:09:25.000 I don't know.

02:09:26.000 Maybe it's kind of Hunter Biden's, you know, maybe just went over there to look for like a board position.

02:09:29.000 I don't know.

02:09:30.000 But just interesting how that all went on.

02:09:32.000 Like, what's going on in Kentucky?

02:09:34.000 Why is no one really talking about this?

02:09:36.000 I mean, why is this not like on Fox News, like a laptop, something or other?

02:09:39.000 I don't know.

02:09:40.000 I think no one's talking about it because nobody's surprised.

02:09:43.000 They already thought he was dead.

02:09:45.000 They're like, he's still around.

02:09:47.000 It's like he's so old that they just expect him to be dead, you know?

02:09:53.000 I mean, look, I wasn't, I've just heard about the, uh, The situation with his wife going to China just heard about that today, and it is weird.

02:10:02.000 Like, I don't know, obviously, I don't have any kind of insider information, but it is weird, and I would like to know more.

02:10:09.000 I don't know that we're going to find out anything, but you know, maybe there's some investigative journalism going on somewhere that might actually uncover some stuff.

02:10:18.000 You mean if he's dead or something?

02:10:20.000 No, his wife went to China.

02:10:22.000 She, I was reading about her just now.

02:10:23.000 Her name is Elaine Chow.

02:10:25.000 She's a business, Taiwanese American businesswoman. 1.00

02:10:29.000 I know she has a lot of connections with like shipping.

02:10:31.000 Isn't that true?

02:10:32.000 Yeah, but why?

02:10:33.000 Like, if he's like laid up in the hospital and on his deathbed, why'd she split over to China? 0.56

02:10:39.000 Yeah, because she's an agent handling house affairs. 0.93

02:10:42.000 Is it like, okay, so I know, like, I read the article, but like, there's the Chinese honeypots, right? 0.99

02:10:50.000 The Chinese thirst trap girls, right? 1.00

02:10:52.000 That will marry upcoming politicians and then hopefully stay married to them. 1.00

02:10:58.000 There's a name for them. 0.99

02:11:00.000 What was the freaking name? 1.00

02:11:02.000 Chinese honeypots? 0.99

02:11:04.000 There's actually a euphemism for them.

02:11:07.000 I can't remember what it is, but I was just reading about that.

02:11:09.000 He was hospitalized in June.

02:11:10.000 In mid June, she went there to meet with the vice president of China, Han Zhang, to discuss relations.

02:11:17.000 So she's a diplomat.

02:11:19.000 McConnell's wife was a Chinese diplomat, I guess, or is a Chinese diplomat?

02:11:24.000 She's not.

02:11:24.000 She's not, technically.

02:11:25.000 That's very strange.

02:11:25.000 I know.

02:11:26.000 She's the wife of a senator.

02:11:28.000 No wife of a senator or any politician, really, has gone to have these negotiations with an adversary.

02:11:34.000 This large, that high level ever.

02:11:37.000 I mean, the State Department says they weren't involved, so what's going on?

02:11:41.000 I'd rather have Dennis Rodman representing the United States of America to a foreign power than.

02:11:46.000 You and me both.

02:11:47.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

02:11:49.000 I don't have any take on it, but it's definitely odd.

02:11:53.000 I get your point that it is weird.

02:11:54.000 Oh, she was the United States Secretary of Transportation, the 18th and the 24th United States Secretary of Labor, but she's saying she's not serving in those positions at the moment. 0.87

02:12:04.000 No, but the weird thing is that she hauls ass to China as soon as she.

02:12:09.000 You know, old Mitch hits the floor, right? 0.94

02:12:13.000 Yeah, hightails it out of there.

02:12:14.000 I don't know.

02:12:15.000 You got any other questions or anything you want to add?

02:12:19.000 No, but just, you know, I guess from my perspective as an American, I would really appreciate our politicians being politicians and not dead or alive politicians because really it's really sad that we got to the state that we don't really care if our politician is alive or dead because we know that the same result will happen.

02:12:38.000 Absolutely nothing.

02:12:39.000 I would like to advocate for people to primary these politicians out.

02:12:43.000 They've been in politics too long and they have done us no good in a number of years.

02:12:48.000 No, no, Mitch McConnell's why we got the SCOTUS the way we do.

02:12:53.000 So I understand, but I made that point earlier.

02:12:58.000 It's very easy to hate on politicians and rightfully so.

02:13:02.000 They generally deserve it.

02:13:03.000 But when people say nothing, I can't help but remind them like, even if you don't like Mitch McConnell, you know, we've got a very good Supreme Court and coming up, you know, this year.

02:13:13.000 I mean, granted, the birthright citizenship didn't go the way we wanted, but we've got a lot of wins, particularly for Second Amendment stuff.

02:13:21.000 A lot of it's because of Mitch McConnell keeping what's his name off the, you know, Merrick Garland off the court.

02:13:29.000 And we got an AR 15 case coming in the fall that, you know, it's likely it's going to go our way because the, or at least if you're pro gun, you consider it going our way.

02:13:39.000 So I understand what you're saying.

02:13:40.000 And, you know, there's a lot of things to criticize politicians about, but saying haven't done anything, I can't.

02:13:47.000 Just let that one slide without pointing that out.

02:13:49.000 Sorry.

02:13:50.000 I know what you mean.

02:13:51.000 It's sort of like the system is in motion and these cogs are just part of this machine, but there are, and then people stand out occasionally.

02:13:58.000 And if they become too popular, they might threaten the machine itself.

02:14:01.000 I think we should have age out rules.

02:14:05.000 That'd be interesting.

02:14:06.000 I haven't think people like.

02:14:08.000 Did you guys hear about Nancy Pelosi's husband?

02:14:08.000 Okay.

02:14:12.000 Yeah.

02:14:12.000 You did the hit and run?

02:14:12.000 No, why?

02:14:14.000 Just recently.

02:14:14.000 No, why?

02:14:14.000 Yeah.

02:14:15.000 It was just like today or yesterday.

02:14:16.000 Yeah.

02:14:17.000 Oh, no.

02:14:18.000 Yeah, and the only reason they caught him is because he damaged his car so much that he rolled down the street from the hit and run and his car wouldn't go anymore.

02:14:24.000 Yeah.

02:14:24.000 Jeez.

02:14:25.000 How old is she? 1.00

02:14:26.000 She's got to be like in her 90s. 1.00

02:14:28.000 She's 100. 0.98

02:14:28.000 100. 0.98

02:14:29.000 She's not 100.

02:14:29.000 I don't know.

02:14:31.000 So why did he take off?

02:14:32.000 Was he drunk or anything like that?

02:14:33.000 Well, they're saying there was no alcohol involved.

02:14:33.000 No.

02:14:35.000 But I mean, okay, the dude is definitely an elderly driver.

02:14:39.000 But yeah, it was another accident.

02:14:42.000 Yeah.

02:14:43.000 So.

02:14:44.000 Jeez.

02:14:44.000 Pelosi's 86.

02:14:45.000 Maybe it's not.

02:14:46.000 Well, maybe he just triggered because he's got Elon's vehicle out there.

02:14:50.000 That could be it.

02:14:51.000 Honestly, I think we need to have age limits on certainly House members at the very least.

02:14:56.000 Yeah.

02:14:58.000 I wouldn't have a problem with that.

02:14:59.000 There are a lot of people that are like, oh, you know, 60 should be it.

02:15:01.000 And I'm like, I'm not so sure.

02:15:02.000 Or maybe not 60.

02:15:03.000 Or maybe not 60.

02:15:03.000 But like, I mean, certainly like.

02:15:05.000 Yeah, 80.

02:15:05.000 80?

02:15:06.000 Can we stop it at 80?

02:15:07.000 I think at 80, you're like, all right, when you turn 80.

02:15:09.000 That would be a step in the right direction at least.

02:15:10.000 When you turn 80, whether your term is up.

02:15:13.000 Thanks.

02:15:13.000 You've done a lot for the country.

02:15:14.000 Actually, no, you can't serve over 80.

02:15:16.000 So if you're a senator and you're 78, then you can't run again.

02:15:21.000 To you know, to go into your 80s, you have to step down at 78 or what have you.

02:15:25.000 It looks good at face value, except that people are living longer, healthier now.

02:15:29.000 I don't know.

02:15:30.000 Because if I'm like, if we're really living till we're 130 and we're like prime to where like 90 or maybe term limits, then right?

02:15:36.000 I mean, it could be a lot, but like, how about some term limits for that's what is it?

02:15:40.000 The only was it the House members don't have any term limits?

02:15:43.000 No, they don't, and they senators don't either, right?

02:15:46.000 Or is it no, don't senators don't do not only the president.

02:15:49.000 So, got anything you want to add?

02:15:52.000 Or, uh, I mean, the only thing I'd say with that is, uh, They need to have age limits because we need to have politicians that have people that come up so the next generation can take over.

02:16:01.000 We don't need one generation being in charge of politics for far longer than they ever should be.

02:16:07.000 And that's part of the problem that we have currently.

02:16:09.000 Yeah.

02:16:09.000 Sure.

02:16:11.000 All right.

02:16:11.000 That's all I have.

02:16:12.000 You got anything you want to shout out or anything?

02:16:12.000 All right, man.

02:16:15.000 Stick around.

02:16:15.000 Yeah.

02:16:16.000 There's After Dark for the Discord.

02:16:18.000 And we do a morning show every morning at 9 a.m. Eastern Time.

02:16:22.000 So if you want hot takes or amigas acting fun with Glenn, And Crimson and Stork, please.

02:16:28.000 Oh, and Brian, don't forget Brian.

02:16:30.000 Please stop by and join Discord.

02:16:32.000 We'd love to have you.

02:16:33.000 Awesome.

02:16:33.000 Thanks for calling in, bud.

02:16:34.000 Thanks for calling in, dude.

02:16:36.000 All right.

02:16:37.000 We're going to go to who's this?

02:16:40.000 Who is this?

02:16:44.000 Sammy.

02:16:46.000 How are you doing, Sammy?

02:16:48.000 There you go.

02:16:49.000 I'm doing good.

02:16:49.000 Nice.

02:16:51.000 I'm just offended that Patrick didn't call me out for the morning show, too, since he and I started it together and I'm on there on Mondays.

02:16:57.000 I'll hit him on it later.

02:16:57.000 That's okay.

02:16:59.000 It's Sammy putting them on the back.

02:17:00.000 Patrick was so mad.

02:17:01.000 Called out.

02:17:02.000 That's what you get, bro.

02:17:03.000 Oh, he's going to pay for it.

02:17:05.000 He's going to pay for it.

02:17:06.000 He's just steaming.

02:17:10.000 So, there was a lot of talk about socialism on the show tonight, and that prompted me to ask this question because it's something that's been bothering me.

02:17:18.000 As we know, it's very scary and it's been brought into the minds of the youth.

02:17:21.000 Even though Gen Z is very based, I've found lately that it's accepting, Gen Z is accepting some of socialism's values.

02:17:30.000 For example, Florida gubernatorial candidate for Florida governor, James Fishback, said at a debate last week that he wanted to mandate maternity leave for women in Florida as governor.

02:17:41.000 A lot of young men flocked to defending it, calling it pro family.

02:17:45.000 I argued that tax incentives were pro family, handouts were social welfare, and empowered single motherhood, but they still pushed back.

02:17:54.000 It's the same talking point that Bernie Sanders used in 2021, and I fear they're trying to take over the right.

02:18:01.000 So, how can we better educate these young folks coming out of the indoctrination of public high schools and colleges of how to spot and stop socialism so we can end it?

02:18:12.000 So, you've got a lot of young people that are really actually fairly sympathetic to right wing socialism.

02:18:25.000 And that kind of is part of the reason why there's so many national socialists or people that are sympathetic to national socialism.

02:18:36.000 And I'm not making an allusion to actual Nazis, but there's a lot of people on the right that are like, hey,.

02:18:46.000 Fascism isn't so bad.

02:18:47.000 You know, the government controlling things probably isn't a bad idea.

02:18:51.000 You look at, there was a lot of hubbub because Patriot Front was out there walking around in DC.

02:18:58.000 And if you listen to the stuff that Patriot Front talks about, they are, they're definitely socialists.

02:19:03.000 They believe that the government should do a lot of things that personally I don't think the government should be doing.

02:19:09.000 And that's fairly popular with young people.

02:19:12.000 So now, how do you stop that?

02:19:15.000 I mean, I think that the economic conditions in the U.S. are a big part of why there's such a new fondness for government doing things. 0.67

02:19:28.000 And you're going to get, like I've said it before, you're going to get communists on the left and Zoomerwaffen on the right.

02:19:36.000 A lot of young people are fairly sympathetic to fascist ideas.

02:19:42.000 And when I say fascist, I'm not talking about.

02:19:46.000 All Nazis were fascists, but not all fascists were Nazis.

02:19:49.000 And if you're talking about, you know, Mussolini or maybe Pinochet or whatever, like those guys were, they're, you know, I don't think fascism is good.

02:20:00.000 Like, I'm not a fascist.

02:20:00.000 I don't believe, I think that people should be free and I think the government should be small.

02:20:04.000 But those guys were definitely preferable to like Nazi Germany, right? 0.91

02:20:09.000 Like, there's a significant distinction. 0.80

02:20:11.000 And there's a lot of people nowadays that are actually fairly sympathetic to, you know, national socialism and, and, and fascist type ideas.

02:20:19.000 How you, Fix that.

02:20:22.000 I think that you need to fix the economic conditions.

02:20:25.000 I think you need to make sure that young people feel like they have a shot and they can actually do things like have families, get a house, etc.

02:20:35.000 They can't feel like the American dream is out of reach to them.

02:20:37.000 If you look at the Lenin era propaganda of Russia, well, I guess it was the CCP back then.

02:20:47.000 If you look at the The appeal to traditionalism from back then.

02:20:53.000 It's like it was always this, you know, it was the motherland or the fatherland, whatever, you know, the motherland and a return to traditionalism.

02:21:03.000 And it was families grow stronger under Lenin style communism.

02:21:10.000 There was a huge

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