Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Democrats PANIC After Teamsters BACK TRUMP, REFUSE To Endorse Harris w-Natalie Winters | Timcast IRLDemocrats PANIC After Teamsters BACK TRUMP, REFUSE To Endorse Harris w-Natalie Winters | Timcast IRL

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00:00:29.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we've got major news today.

00:00:33.000 Shocking.

00:00:34.000 The Teamsters Union conducted a poll and the members overwhelmingly backed Donald Trump because of this.

00:00:42.000 Now, you'd think the Teamsters Union would just say, OK, all our members, they want Trump for president.

00:00:47.000 We should endorse him.

00:00:48.000 Instead, they said, you know what?

00:00:49.000 We're not going to endorse anybody.

00:00:51.000 Now, here's the best part.

00:00:53.000 This is apocalyptic to Democrats.

00:00:54.000 They have lost the Teamsters Union.

00:00:57.000 UAW is blaming Democrats for the loss of auto jobs.

00:01:01.000 I don't know.

00:01:02.000 This is a major story that suggests they're not going to be able to win losing this much support, but we will see.

00:01:07.000 But my favorite part of this story, Donald Trump gets asked, hey, the Teamsters Union says they're not going to endorse a Democrat.

00:01:13.000 What do you say to that?

00:01:14.000 And Trump goes, oh, wow, it's a great honor.

00:01:17.000 You know, they're good people.

00:01:19.000 He's saying it as if he was endorsed.

00:01:21.000 Because we all know what this really means.

00:01:23.000 The Teamsters union refusing to endorse the Democrat means they're backing Donald Trump.

00:01:27.000 But look, they're not endorsing Trump.

00:01:30.000 But in the poll, we've got the data the Teamsters released.

00:01:32.000 It's nearly 2 to 1.

00:01:34.000 The Teamsters favor Donald Trump.

00:01:36.000 So we're going to talk about that.

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00:04:27.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Natalie Winters.

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00:05:10.000 Here we go.

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00:05:12.000 This is huge news, ladies and gentlemen.

00:05:14.000 Teamsters declined to endorse a presidential candidate this November.

00:05:19.000 I'm going to tell you right off the bat, that is a de facto endorsement of Donald Trump.

00:05:23.000 What ends up happening, and this is crazy, let me see if I can just pull this up.

00:05:27.000 We got John Rich here with a great tweet.

00:05:29.000 August 30th, John Rich said, you know him, rock star, country musician star.

00:05:33.000 He says, when this is all over, the Dems are going to wish they had just kept Joe.

00:05:38.000 He says, I still believe the post below will come to pass.

00:05:40.000 Take a look at this.

00:05:41.000 In June, the Teamsters said Biden 44% to Trump 36.

00:05:46.000 But when they brought in Harris, it is now Trump 58% to Harris 31.

00:05:52.000 This is apocalyptic for the Democrats.

00:05:55.000 The Teamsters have issued their release in the presidential endorsement polling data saying, for the past year, the Teamsters union has pledged to conduct the most inclusive, democratic and transparent presidential endorsement process In the history of our 121-year-old organization.

00:06:09.000 And today we are delivering on that promise to our members, said Teamsters General President Sean M. O'Brien.

00:06:15.000 Our members are the union, and their voices and opinions must be at the forefront of everything the Teamsters do.

00:06:21.000 Our final decision around a possible presidential endorsement will not be made lightly, but you can be sure it will be driven directly by our diverse membership.

00:06:29.000 And then they posted this, and this is from 1.52 p.m.

00:06:32.000 Who should the Teamsters endorse for president in 2024?

00:06:36.000 We can see.

00:06:37.000 Town Hall straw poll originally in April to July was Biden 44 to Trump 36.3.

00:06:42.000 RFK was 5.6.

00:06:44.000 Cornell West actually got 1.7.

00:06:45.000 Shout out.

00:06:46.000 And then, as of July 24th to September 15th, Harris 34% to Trump 59.6.

00:06:53.000 We're going to round that up to 60%.

00:06:56.000 We're rounding that up.

00:06:57.000 I don't know why they're rounding it down.

00:06:58.000 We're rounding it up.

00:07:00.000 Now, in their research phone poll, it is Harris 31 to Trump 58.

00:07:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is... When I say the Teamsters back Donald Trump, I'm not saying the bureaucrats and the pencil pushers, the paper pushers.

00:07:12.000 I'm talking about the rank-and-file, meat-potatoes people who are running the show, the Teamsters.

00:07:17.000 The people who do the job, the blue-collar American workers are saying Donald Trump.

00:07:23.000 Well, is there not, I think, a beautiful metaphorical significance to that that is the Trump campaign going back all the way to 2016 where it has always been the grassroots, the rank-and-file membership of the Republican Party.

00:07:35.000 Donald Trump was the first person to put the Republican Party in alignment with their interests and not the donor class, not the, you know, high upper echelon people who I'm sure work at the Teamsters union and think that, you know, I just love it.

00:07:47.000 You're so right that they put 59.6, that they didn't round up, right?

00:07:50.000 You know it's all intentional, but I'd say shout out to Trump, and I think it's going to be a good election.

00:07:56.000 It's a lot of people that weren't voting.

00:07:58.000 I mean, he would have said he had 30-some percent, and then as soon as now the new poll comes out with Kamala instead of Joe, there's 17% more people have actually gotten involved.

00:08:06.000 It was as if— Well, there were other candidates.

00:08:09.000 It still says 6% other candidates and now 59% of them want Trump.

00:08:12.000 Before it was like 30-some.

00:08:14.000 It's like people were like, not her.

00:08:15.000 We're not going down to that.

00:08:18.000 That's absolutely wild. 0.92

00:08:19.000 Kamala Harris was a miserable choice. 1.00

00:08:21.000 Not to mention Tim Walz.

00:08:23.000 So now you go... Look, I gotta tell you, man.

00:08:26.000 When you go and you meet these workers, union workers, and you hear how they talk and what they have to say, there is no way, no way they're going to align with Kamala Harris.

00:08:36.000 And I believe it was the general president giving an interview earlier and he says, look, a lot of our members are voting on social issues that matter to them.

00:08:43.000 I'm seeing these responses on X where they're like, why would Teamsters support a president who's anti-union?

00:08:49.000 It's like, my dude, have you actually read Donald Trump's positions on these things?

00:08:52.000 He's definitely not anti-union.

00:08:54.000 He is trying to earn their vote.

00:08:57.000 He wants to win the working class white voter back. 0.86

00:09:01.000 I know a lot of people in New York who are in the union who are maybe liberal leaning, who aren't as plugged into the news.

00:09:07.000 And they see Joe Biden, they kind of buy into his whole shtick as being like the union guy.

00:09:11.000 So it was easy for them.

00:09:12.000 But they know Kamala is a coastal elite who doesn't care about them at all.

00:09:16.000 They don't need to know anything else.

00:09:17.000 However, not to crash the party, but I also think that we have to look at this story in the context of what has been a rapidly developing news cycle when it comes to the administration of elections here, because there's a difference between votes and ballots, right?

00:09:30.000 And just yesterday you have Axios reporting on the heels of the state of Pennsylvania coming out about a month ago saying to expect 2022 style delays in election results is of course

00:09:40.000 on the heels of letters coming out from the US Postal Service saying, oh no,

00:09:43.000 we're not gonna be able to deliver mail and ballots on time.

00:09:45.000 Of course, all this fear-mongering that election workers are stepping down because Trump is intimidating them so

00:09:51.000 much so CBS News had a story out last week saying because we

00:09:54.000 have such, you know, amateur hour when it comes to the people who are

00:09:57.000 administrating elections now, we might have quote mistakes.

00:10:01.000 That's a direct quote.

00:10:02.000 So as much as I love these numbers, I think there's always sort of a disconnect in terms of how they actually translate.

00:10:09.000 And frankly, just like you were alluding to, when you see them pick someone who's so woefully unpopular, like Kamala Harris is, It's because it's not really about candidate quality.

00:10:18.000 It's about an institution, a system, frankly, the dark money groups that are popping her up.

00:10:22.000 So to them, it doesn't really even matter.

00:10:24.000 You see this in the fact that whether it's, you know, the DNC platform, even Kamala's own campaign website, when they launched it, right, the source code was copying and pasting Joe Biden stuff.

00:10:33.000 You guys remember that video where Joe Biden's in that factory and the guy asks him about taking our guns away and the guy yells at the working class dude?

00:10:40.000 This is the Democratic Party.

00:10:43.000 You go look at Vox.com from 2016 and they said the Democrats have become the party of the wealthy.

00:10:48.000 Or are becoming the party of the wealthy.

00:10:49.000 And they showed.

00:10:50.000 Wall Street didn't endorse Trump in 2020.

00:10:52.000 I believe they were very, very much behind Clinton.

00:10:53.000 salary higher income individuals. With Donald Trump stepping in he brought

00:10:57.000 working-class populism to the Republican Party.

00:11:00.000 Wall Street didn't endorse Trump in 2020. I believe they were very very much behind Clinton or 2016 sorry.

00:11:09.000 Clinton.

00:11:11.000 We say Hillary. 0.82

00:11:11.000 When you say Clinton, I'm thinking Bill. 0.82

00:11:13.000 I just see them as like a two-headed monster.

00:11:14.000 It's the same thing in my mind.

00:11:15.000 That's why I think the extension that you keep seeing all these, you know, Republicans for Harris, or how many days in the new cycle is it going to be?

00:11:22.000 A new group of, you know, national security leaders who, frankly, were all Democrats to begin with, are all on the payroll, or in some ways linked to the military-industrial complex, directly profit from the Ukraine war continuing.

00:11:32.000 They come out and endorse Trump and they wheel that out like they think it has any salience with the working class or with people who actually support Trump.

00:11:39.000 But I think this poll shows you just how out of touch and how significant that disconnect is.

00:11:45.000 But they're still going to keep cramming it down your throat.

00:11:46.000 Because like I said, I wish we operated in a place where elections were rooted in polls and poll numbers and, you know, numbers like this.

00:11:53.000 It's procedure.

00:11:54.000 It's ballot warfare.

00:11:55.000 Right.

00:11:56.000 So I want to show you this from the AP team.

00:11:57.000 Staging new declines to endorse Trump or Harris for president.

00:12:00.000 But my favorite part.

00:12:01.000 is they say, uh, the teamster said Wednesday that internal polling of members showed Trump

00:12:06.000 with an advantage over Harris, a fact the Republicans campaign immediately seized upon

00:12:10.000 by sending out an email that said the rank and file, the teamsters union supports Donald

00:12:14.000 Trump for president.

00:12:16.000 Trump called the teamsters decision not to endorse a great honor.

00:12:19.000 Dude, it's a great honor.

00:12:22.000 He said they're not going to endorse the Democrats.

00:12:24.000 It's a big thing.

00:12:25.000 I was watching live.

00:12:26.000 Trump was at a bar in New York.

00:12:27.000 It's called, what is it called, Pubkey?

00:12:30.000 It's a, meaning public key.

00:12:31.000 It's a crypto bar.

00:12:32.000 And he's like the first president to buy with Bitcoin or something like that.

00:12:35.000 And while he's there, someone asked him, they said, hey, the teamsters have just announced they're not going to be endorsing a presidential candidate.

00:12:41.000 Trump says, oh wow, it's a great honor.

00:12:43.000 And as if they said he had been endorsed.

00:12:45.000 The non-endorsement.

00:12:47.000 The non-endorsement is, it was funny because when the news broke, everyone's of course saying this is a de facto endorsement of Donald Trump.

00:12:54.000 They have abandoned the Democratic Party.

00:12:56.000 This means they are supporting Trump.

00:12:58.000 Trump came out and said it's a great honor.

00:13:00.000 He knew exactly what everyone else knew.

00:13:04.000 The moment the Teamsters were like, we're not getting behind Kamala Harris, you know that meant the Reconfile members wanted a Republican, and the Teamsters Union, the bureaucrats, and the pencil pushers don't want to publicly say it.

00:13:18.000 It's the evolution of the Time magazine from February 2020.

00:13:21.000 The secret cabal behind it.

00:13:25.000 Seem to be behind Trump, largely, right?

00:13:28.000 Like the working class people. 1.00

00:13:29.000 But then the Time magazine from February 2020 talked about how Trump was technically right.

00:13:33.000 There was a secret cabal working against him to fortify the election.

00:13:37.000 Well, they can involve this now is like outside outside of this and what Natalie saying is the like gross evolution of what happened then happening now.

00:13:45.000 Right.

00:13:46.000 The elites of the of the union don't want to say.

00:13:50.000 But I mean, it's kind of wild, right?

00:13:51.000 You poll your members and they say, we want Trump.

00:13:54.000 You go, OK, we're endorsing Trump.

00:13:56.000 Nope.

00:13:56.000 That's what's wild about it.

00:13:57.000 Just the phrase the elites of the union is like.

00:14:01.000 Oh, I hate... That's a... There are no... The union's supposed to be all for one.

00:14:06.000 Like, there is no elitism in that system.

00:14:08.000 There shouldn't be, yeah.

00:14:09.000 That's a funny way to look at it, but... You know, look, I... I like the concept of unions, and so this is a trick they try and get you on.

00:14:16.000 They'll say something like, you're anti-union or whatever, and it's like, well, look, look, look.

00:14:20.000 I oppose the large corporate scumbag unions that have existed for hundreds of years and have weird elites who run them who aren't these working class guys.

00:14:29.000 The idea of, let's say you got a factory and there's like 30 employees and they're all just working class Joes and Janes or whatever. 1.00

00:14:36.000 And they all get together and they're like, hey man, the conditions are really bad.

00:14:39.000 I think we should all, you know, make a demand.

00:14:43.000 So they all stop working and they get the manager and say, hey, we're not going to keep working until you guys fix this thing.

00:14:48.000 This thing's dangerous.

00:14:49.000 We got a bad machine over here.

00:14:50.000 And he says no, and they say, well then we're not working.

00:14:52.000 Now you've got a real collective bargaining, you've got real stuff going on.

00:14:56.000 I respect that. I respect that.

00:14:58.000 It's not safe here, we're not getting paid enough, you need to fix this.

00:15:00.000 What I don't respect, because in my experience with all these unions that I've been in,

00:15:03.000 it's like, you're an employee, you're in the union.

00:15:05.000 The people who run the union are buddies with the management at the company,

00:15:10.000 and they just tell you to shut up. 0.67

00:15:11.000 And so all that ends up happening is someone takes money out of my paycheck and they don't do anything for me.

00:15:16.000 And then they say, dude, don't you understand the things our contract is how good it is for you?

00:15:20.000 And I'm like, I don't see any of that, dude.

00:15:22.000 I don't see any raises.

00:15:23.000 I don't see any benefits.

00:15:24.000 You just tell me it exists and I got to give you 30 bucks a month.

00:15:27.000 Get out of my face. 0.99

00:15:28.000 I think there's parallels to what a lot of the establishment politicians have done to American people, right, with the way that they've probably been treated by their union bosses.

00:15:37.000 I would probably say that we'll see, probably in the next few days, a news cycle about how they're going to try to spin it as like it's sexism now, right, now that they've put Kamala in there as such a precipitous drop in those numbers.

00:15:49.000 It's because she's a woman or some spin on it. 0.95

00:15:52.000 But again, I just think that there's such Such a strong corollary to the 2016 campaign that Trump ran, reversing the old kind of Republican tradition, whether it was free trade, immigration.

00:16:03.000 And I think these people still see him as a fighter in that regard.

00:16:06.000 And I think that's why we all loved him so much in 2016 and why we still love him today.

00:16:10.000 He's like a working class hero kind of guy.

00:16:13.000 He just took that Republican Party and changed it.

00:16:15.000 Or it, I guess...

00:16:17.000 Yeah, he did.

00:16:18.000 He did.

00:16:18.000 He took what was left over of it after all the big money went to Obama.

00:16:22.000 Because he was self-funded, right?

00:16:23.000 He didn't have to, you know, become a political prostitute to the Koch brothers, to all the people who want open borders.

00:16:30.000 But the funny thing is, too, that I think, you know, all those people, like the Never Trump wing of the Republican Party, There was just a stunning piece in Politico about two weeks

00:16:39.000 ago, and it was how a bunch of Republican members of Congress

00:16:43.000 are busy giving, you know, off the record, secret interviews to think it was

00:16:46.000 Jonathan Martin, talking about how they want Trump to lose because they don't

00:16:50.000 like the direction that he's taking the Republican party,

00:16:53.000 which is of course aligning it with the working class and not the donor interest,

00:16:57.000 right? It makes it harder to get shady, swampy CRs passed.

00:17:00.000 I'm looking at you Speaker Mike Johnson. But when it comes to that alignment,

00:17:04.000 you know, you see another piece too, at the Huffington Post did a long profile on the Koch

00:17:08.000 brothers, the Koch network, how they're getting ready to rebrand and what they're

00:17:13.000 calling a post Trump era.

00:17:14.000 And the number one issue is immigration that they don't like his approach to it,

00:17:19.000 legal and illegal.

00:17:20.000 And I think that's always sort of been the defining issue.

00:17:23.000 And I think, you know, the corollary, when you see what's going on in

00:17:26.000 Springfield, yeah, part of it, you can look at it as, you know, Oh, they're

00:17:29.000 eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.

00:17:31.000 But I don't think you have to start the discussion on the negative impacts of mass migration.

00:17:36.000 You don't have to set the goalposts there.

00:17:38.000 And I think people who belong to the Teamsters union are on the significant receiving end of horrible trade and horrible immigration policies, their lived experience in this country because of the policies that Kamala Harris and frankly, Dick and Liz Cheney who want to go out and endorse her so it applies to both sides of the aisle.

00:17:54.000 But they get it and they see the BS that they're trying to spin.

00:17:57.000 Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.

00:17:59.000 Adding on to the story we saw earlier about the Teamsters refusing to endorse the Democrat, the New York Post reports Michigan union members blame Biden electric vehicle mandates for auto industry layoffs, quote, want to slit our throats.

00:18:13.000 The auto industry is big business in Michigan, and a major round of layoffs is revving the election into high gear for industry workers in this critical swing state who blame the Biden-Harris administration's heavy-handed electric vehicle mandates for the painful job losses.

00:18:27.000 Stellantis, which manufactures Chrysler, Jeep, and Dodge vehicles, announced last month it will lay off 2,450 workers at its Warren plant.

00:18:35.000 While industry jobs in the state have been declining since 1990, Michigan autoworkers explained to the Post why Team Biden's green energy rules are at fault this time.

00:18:44.000 United Autoworkers member Isaiah Gordon, 24, works on hybrid batteries at Ford's Rawsonville plant and said the forced transition to electric vehicles is damaging the industry.

00:18:54.000 I'm sure all the people I work with are glad to have jobs.

00:18:55.000 The problem is these electric vehicle departments, you're laying people off.

00:19:00.000 Fellow UAW member Chris Vitale, a technician mechanic for Chrysler, agreed, saying electric cars require considerably less labor to produce than gas-powered vehicles.

00:19:08.000 This is Michigan.

00:19:10.000 Key swing state.

00:19:12.000 And union members in Michigan are blaming Biden-Harris for losing jobs.

00:19:16.000 Michigan's already been in a rough state since 1990, as it stated.

00:19:21.000 We all know about the auto industry collapse.

00:19:24.000 I don't know how.

00:19:26.000 You look at the Teamsters, you look at Michigan UAW, and you conclude that Kamala Harris is going to win these places.

00:19:31.000 Uh uh uh.

00:19:32.000 That being said, shadow campaign I understand.

00:19:35.000 But in terms of winning the argument, it becomes extremely difficult to believe that in a real world scenario, where everybody goes in and casts their ballots, Kamala Harris can win.

00:19:47.000 I fully agree with that.

00:19:50.000 Yeah, but I'm just living in terror of the electronic voting machines flipping vote tallies.

00:19:56.000 I just don't know how to combat that tactic.

00:19:58.000 Or ballot harvesting.

00:20:00.000 It's interesting, too.

00:20:01.000 Just a few weeks ago, the UK announced that they were assembling a council to combat misinformation about electric vehicles in order to try to boost sales.

00:20:11.000 So I'm sure we'll probably see one of those rolled out here, too.

00:20:16.000 Again, I wish we could have discussions, right, in terms of polling and thinking that it translates quite nicely and squares out, you know, the numbers when it comes to voting.

00:20:26.000 But, you know, the point that Democrats are in such opposition to the SAVE Act, which would, you know, not a very radical proposition, which is that non-citizens shouldn't be allowed to vote.

00:20:36.000 I mean, if that's a non-starter, I think that kind of shows you in really the dangerous territory that we're in.

00:20:42.000 But you already see it in the news cycle, right?

00:20:44.000 The calculated campaigns.

00:20:46.000 I think that USPS letter saying that there's going to be delays.

00:20:49.000 Like I said, I mean, they're buying freaking panic buttons.

00:20:52.000 The New York Times saying that the election will not be... We will not know the results on election night.

00:20:58.000 They're buying panic buttons for election workers down in Georgia, in Cobb County, because they're saying MAGA, people like this show, we're radicalizing people to make them- my point being that even panic buttons, the ridiculousness of the story aside, they're curating a narrative, right?

00:21:14.000 That there's going to be chaos on election day.

00:21:17.000 And frankly, I think the most concerning part, I'm sure you guys are aware, I think you guys covered it, but the idea of the Transition Integrity Project, right, that was part of sort of that time magazine story back in 2020, but they're back and they're

00:21:29.000 back with a vengeance.

00:21:30.000 You could argue they never went away, but they sort of have gone a step further

00:21:34.000 than their 2020 plans and they are talking on record about how they've been

00:21:37.000 reaching out to state and local officials saying that we're trying to

00:21:41.000 get pre-arranged, pre-determined commitments from Republicans and

00:21:45.000 Democrats to sort of, you know, defend democracy and do all these nebulous

00:21:49.000 terms, who knows what the heck it means.

00:21:52.000 But they're really coming in, guns blazing, and you can tell with the level to which they're projecting, right, that it's Republicans who are getting ready to rig and steal the election.

00:22:01.000 They melt down when Trump says the same exact things that they do, but there's, you know, tenfold, a hundredfold more evidence on that side of the football than there is on the Democratic side.

00:22:10.000 How many times do we have to hear Stacey Abrams or Hillary Clinton say the election was taken? 0.99

00:22:13.000 You know, and like Elizabeth Warren years ago had a whole letter out there about not trusting, I think it was Dominion machines, or whichever machine.

00:22:20.000 The Democrats were going nuts on voting machines.

00:22:23.000 I think it was 2012 at the Black Hat Convention, or DEF CON and Black Hat, they hacked voting machines.

00:22:29.000 I'm pretty sure, correct me if I'm wrong, Ian you might know this, that DEF CON, it's a hacker convention, every year has the election hacking village.

00:22:37.000 Meaning like, In August, you go to Las Vegas.

00:22:40.000 You go to the largest hacker convention in the world.

00:22:42.000 There's two of them, Defcon and Blackhat.

00:22:45.000 One's corporate, one's kind of just wild.

00:22:47.000 And you go out there and say, where can I learn about hacking voting machines?

00:22:49.000 And they're like, oh, we got a couple hundred people over here doing it right now.

00:22:51.000 Step right this way.

00:22:52.000 I'm pretty sure they have the voting hacking village.

00:22:55.000 So they have like lock picking.

00:22:57.000 They have industrial control systems.

00:22:59.000 Dude, it's a wild place.

00:23:00.000 I really do recommend, you know, if you ever have the time to check out Defcon and Blackhat, you should definitely check it out.

00:23:06.000 Well, in 2018, it was Pelosi.

00:23:08.000 She commissioned a whole entire report on foreign election interference.

00:23:11.000 And Bob Mueller just today wrote a forward for a new book, and they're pumping it out on The Guardian, and he's saying that Russia's going to interfere in the 2024 election.

00:23:19.000 But I think the worst thing in all of this is that they keep rolling out.

00:23:22.000 There's a new campaign they just launched with a bunch of former governors.

00:23:25.000 They're of course now making all these members of Congress sign what they're calling a unity pledge to say that, oh, no matter what, on January 6th, we're going to sign the election results and we're going to go to the inauguration.

00:23:35.000 They haven't done anything substantive to make elections more secure, right? 0.67

00:23:39.000 And it's this sort of interesting psyop where it's like, instead of actually trying to convince you and do the actual groundwork and legwork to secure elections, We're just gonna wheel out a bunch of, like, old politicians and say, you have to trust elections, otherwise you're deranged and crazy, right?

00:23:57.000 And it's, it's, it's a very weird approach.

00:23:59.000 It's the same thing with, with some, right, if you actually wanted, and that's frankly the issue that I take with this whole postal service letter, right, about the mail-in ballots.

00:24:08.000 If you actually took issue with that letter, the answer would be, Let's holistically review mail-in ballots.

00:24:15.000 They're rife with fraud.

00:24:15.000 We shouldn't use them.

00:24:16.000 Every country hasn't used them.

00:24:18.000 And when they have, they get rid of it, because it doesn't work.

00:24:21.000 But instead, the answer is, no, we're going to double down on needing to use mail-in ballots, even though we're writing you a letter right now about saying how we can't count them.

00:24:29.000 It's so insecure.

00:24:30.000 People my whole life said, don't mail cash.

00:24:32.000 Don't put cash in the mail and send it, because someone will just open up the thing and take it, or who knows?

00:24:36.000 Don't mail your cash.

00:24:38.000 But people are comfortable mailing their ballot, their vote.

00:24:43.000 One of the most secure things you do politically in your life is ensure your ballot.

00:24:48.000 There's a report today in Arizona that there was sort of, again, mistakes that always seem to go one way.

00:24:53.000 They think they sent out 97,000 ballots or so to people where they weren't necessarily sure if the registration was accurate, if they were citizens or not.

00:25:02.000 Minnesota breaking the same story just three days ago.

00:25:04.000 There was a report coming out in Utah today, discrepancies between the number of mail-in ballots sent out to those received in primaries.

00:25:10.000 So there's obviously a problem.

00:25:12.000 But they never want to actually address the systemic issues.

00:25:15.000 Instead, they just want to wheel out these weird, old, dusty politicians.

00:25:18.000 Here's Dick Cheney!

00:25:19.000 Yeah, Dick Cheney says the election's secure!

00:25:22.000 We like him now, okay?

00:25:25.000 When I see all of this stuff, the corporate press, Dick Cheney, it's... I'm sorry, it's an old, decayed system.

00:25:36.000 I'm gonna be as mean as I can about it.

00:25:37.000 Sorry, old folks who watch the show, I mean no disrespect, but it's kind of like watching Tony Hawk skate at 55 or whatever.

00:25:44.000 And Tony's great, he's a great guy, and I don't mean to be mean to him, okay?

00:25:50.000 But one of the most gut-wrenching videos Is when you watch Tony Hawk land his last 900, okay?

00:25:57.000 This is it, this is it.

00:25:58.000 Flying up in the air, spinning two and a half times and coming down.

00:26:01.000 And he was like 52.

00:26:02.000 He struggles with it because he's getting old.

00:26:04.000 He slams his helmet down and says, you know, my son was here the first time, he's here the last time.

00:26:08.000 That's it, I'll never do this again.

00:26:10.000 And you're watching this legend of the sport walk away.

00:26:14.000 You see, the difference is, you know, we like Tony.

00:26:16.000 We like our athletes.

00:26:17.000 So when they're retiring, it's like, man, sad to see him go.

00:26:20.000 Imagine if Tony decided to say, I'm not going anywhere!

00:26:23.000 I'm the best!

00:26:24.000 You can't kick me out of these sporting events!

00:26:25.000 And started showing up, trying to skate against nine-year-olds who are doing 1080s.

00:26:30.000 Okay, maybe a bit too much jargon.

00:26:32.000 The point is, imagine some, like, 57-year-old retired football player was like, I demand to go to the Super Bowl!

00:26:38.000 And you're like, dude, you can't hang.

00:26:40.000 Like, what are you doing?

00:26:41.000 And then he comes in, pull strings, gets people kicked off teams, tries to get the refs to

00:26:45.000 favor him to tell everybody how good he is.

00:26:47.000 It's like, dude, we know you can't do this anymore.

00:26:49.000 You could have left.

00:26:50.000 You were the vice president 24 years ago, whatever.

00:26:53.000 Congratulations.

00:26:54.000 But these people coming out now and being like, look, we're all together in this.

00:26:58.000 It's the Trump people that are bad.

00:26:59.000 These are the younger, the younger generation, the Internet generation, the populist generation

00:27:04.000 You guys have lost the power. 1.00

00:27:06.000 Sit down and shut up. 1.00

00:27:08.000 But they won't go away. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Let's put it this way, man.

00:27:12.000 At least in sports, at a certain age, people retire.

00:27:15.000 And they retire young.

00:27:17.000 There's a lot of athletes that are like, oh the 35, you know, that's it, I'm out.

00:27:20.000 If they make it to 35.

00:27:21.000 35 year old in skateboarding is ancient.

00:27:24.000 The top skateboarders are like 15 to 20 years old.

00:27:27.000 So if you're 35, it's like, wow, that's really impressive how old you are and you're able to do these tricks and compete at this level.

00:27:34.000 It would be like...

00:27:36.000 Watching a bunch of, like I mentioned, 50, 60-year-old football players pulling strings, using money to make sure younger guys couldn't get in.

00:27:44.000 The refs are all the same age. 0.90

00:27:45.000 That's what we see with Congress.

00:27:47.000 That's what we see with the Senate.

00:27:49.000 Octogenocracy?

00:27:49.000 What are they called?

00:27:51.000 Or whatever?

00:27:52.000 But the illusion is that there's no physical fitness test.

00:27:56.000 It's just a rich man's game.

00:27:58.000 They're feeding off the backs of whatever, the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland, the Federal Reserve, they know people that are paying them, and they're using their faces and their trusts, these companies, these shell companies, like Dick Cheney's a face for an organization of finance, and they just wheel him in, he says some crap, and then they wheel him out, and then This is a bit we need to do.

00:28:19.000 If football was like politics, and then it's just like a bunch of 80-year-old players, and there's young guys being like, I'd really like to play this game, and they're just like, you're not allowed to play!

00:28:28.000 And they're spending money to keep out anyone new.

00:28:30.000 Then at the end of it, it turns out they're actually all on the same team.

00:28:33.000 Right, right. 0.98

00:28:34.000 They all go to the same locker room and they're all patting each other on the butt.

00:28:37.000 To build on Tim's athlete analogy though, it's like we all—Tony Hawk was beloved.

00:28:42.000 The media still is still is the media try telling everyone how much they hate Dick Cheney for years and years and

00:28:42.000 Still is.

00:28:48.000 years And now and they're like desperate throws their wheel on

00:28:52.000 this guy out to be like no We respect this what this guy says because he hates the guy

00:28:55.000 we hate now. They called they called him hitler They said so this is the funny thing when george w bush was

00:29:01.000 president They would hold up signs with him with the hitler mustache, 1.00

00:29:04.000 but then SNL would make fun of him and say he's really stupid and 0.99

00:29:08.000 they would go dick cheney's the real mastermind behind all of these by Halliburton right here. 1.00

00:29:12.000 He's the guy.

00:29:14.000 So he's actually the one running the show.

00:29:16.000 Now they're like, I am honored to have the endorsement of Dick Cheney.

00:29:19.000 Wow, it means a lot to me.

00:29:20.000 We need the guy who runs the show.

00:29:22.000 It's also, too, if you if you pay attention to, like, the MSNBC interviews of all these people, it's the new sort of, I think, psy-op, which I'm sure I'll use this word a bunch during the show, but that they're going for the sort of, you know, Lincoln Project Republican type that vote.

00:29:40.000 By trying to say that it's okay to vote for Kamala in this one election.

00:29:46.000 You're still a patriot.

00:29:47.000 You can still be an American, right?

00:29:49.000 That's the kind of demographic that they're going after.

00:29:52.000 And frankly, I think the through line that you could run it to is why you saw the embrace of patriotism at the DNC.

00:29:57.000 Write the American flags that you've literally never seen before in the DNC talking about how they love America.

00:30:04.000 You're like, wait, what?

00:30:05.000 Is this the right event?

00:30:07.000 And I think that's the vote that they're really trying to court, but they're going about doing it in this very emotionally driven, like, you can, it's sort of cultish, right?

00:30:15.000 Like, you can still vote for us.

00:30:17.000 Because it is a cult.

00:30:18.000 Yeah, it's almost like it is a cult.

00:30:20.000 Yeah.

00:30:20.000 That's what they do.

00:30:21.000 They struggle session you if you want to leave and they subtly struggle session you if you're in it.

00:30:27.000 Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.

00:30:29.000 Breaking Save Act paired with spending package fails to pass the House.

00:30:35.000 I don't think anyone's going to surprise to hear Several Republicans sided with the Democrats to knock this down.

00:30:41.000 Because the whole thing is a game.

00:30:44.000 There's very few members of Congress who actually want to do anything.

00:30:48.000 It's a game.

00:30:49.000 We had, I can't remember which rep it was, but it was Freedom Caucus, and he talked about how the Republicans had the votes to overturn Obamacare.

00:30:56.000 And Republican leadership went to him and said, no, no, no, vote against getting rid of Obamacare.

00:31:00.000 We need the wedge issue.

00:31:02.000 They never had any intention of overturning any of these things.

00:31:04.000 They didn't care.

00:31:05.000 They say on Wednesday, the SAVE Act, paired with the StopGap government funding package, was voted down 202 yays to 220 nays.

00:31:15.000 This comes as illegal immigration and border security, combined with concerns over voter fraud, has been raised in the country.

00:31:20.000 The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, paired with the StopGap, has been a move that House Speaker Mike Johnson, as well as Trump, have supported in recent weeks.

00:31:28.000 On Wednesday, the package paired with the SAVE Act did not pass the House.

00:31:31.000 The Act would prevent non-citizens from voting by requiring that Americans provide proof of citizenship to register to vote.

00:31:37.000 I'm going to tell you what I think.

00:31:39.000 There is no way that 14 Republicans could get away with breaking from Donald Trump and the Speaker.

00:31:48.000 If Mike Johnson goes to the Republican and says, you're voting this way or you're going to lose your committees, I mean, This is, in my opinion, planned.

00:31:58.000 I would more likely to believe that Mike Johnson comes out publicly and says, we're going to do this.

00:32:02.000 This is what we have to do.

00:32:04.000 Convincing everybody that's the plan.

00:32:06.000 Then he goes to a handful of Republicans says, just vote with the Democrats so that this doesn't actually go anywhere.

00:32:11.000 We're going to pretend like we care.

00:32:13.000 You guys are in swing districts.

00:32:14.000 You'll pretend to be bipartisan.

00:32:16.000 Siding with the Democrats looks good for your reelection.

00:32:18.000 And then we don't have to have to actually do it.

00:32:20.000 That's what I think happened.

00:32:21.000 The Republicans who said no, though, I think, are some of the most MAGA ones who did.

00:32:27.000 It wasn't the Swing District ones. 0.68

00:32:28.000 Really?

00:32:29.000 It was the Boeberts.

00:32:30.000 Two people voted present.

00:32:31.000 That was Massey and Greene.

00:32:33.000 I stand corrected.

00:32:33.000 You're right.

00:32:34.000 It actually is the good ones who voted against it.

00:32:36.000 My bad.

00:32:38.000 Shame on Speaker Mike Johnson for someone who wants to stand up there and say that the reason that we need to pass the SAVE Act right now, which by the way, even if you were to pass it, it would come into effect way too late.

00:32:47.000 Mail-in ballots have already started going out.

00:32:50.000 If he cared so much about election integrity, it should have been his first move when he was Speaker.

00:32:54.000 Second of all, if policy writers work, right, attaching bills onto other bills, in this case a CR, then they should have done it with H.R.

00:33:00.000 1, right, Low Cost Energy Act, H.R.

00:33:03.000 2, actually securing the border.

00:33:05.000 Why didn't they do that on any of the five CRs that they've pushed through?

00:33:09.000 And most importantly, Joe Biden has come out and said, hands down, I will veto the SAVE Act, and the Senate said that they would strip it from the CR anyways.

00:33:17.000 So all of the people who voted saying no, We're on the right side of history, I would argue, because the SAVE Act was going to get stripped from it anyways.

00:33:24.000 It wasn't going anywhere in the first place.

00:33:25.000 It wasn't going anywhere.

00:33:26.000 And the real... It makes more sense, honestly.

00:33:28.000 The disgusting part from Speaker Mike Johnson is that they have cheapened the issue of election integrity and cheapened the SAVE Act, which, by the way, we passed in July.

00:33:36.000 It's been sitting in the Senate.

00:33:38.000 They could have held a vote on it, could have been signed into law by Joe Biden if they actually cared about non-citizens voting right in the same breath while they're lecturing us on foreign election interference.

00:33:46.000 But they're dangling it like a shiny toy, a shiny object to try to pressure those 14 members in the Republican Party from a messaging perspective to be able to say, oh, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, right?

00:33:59.000 You don't care about election integrity.

00:34:00.000 You're not voting for the SAVE Act.

00:34:01.000 And frankly, the Trump statement that he put out, I would argue it's the brilliance of Donald Trump, but it can sort of be read both ways, because he says, I don't want anything happening.

00:34:10.000 We need to pass the SAVE Act.

00:34:12.000 It's the SAVE Act.

00:34:12.000 He didn't express support for the CR, right?

00:34:15.000 And the SAVE Act can be passed independently.

00:34:18.000 It is the false promise and pretense that Speaker Johnson said that is that you have to attach it to the CR.

00:34:24.000 You don't.

00:34:25.000 Let alone wanting to fund the same damn government that just almost got President Trump killed again, whether it's the Secret Service or the same DHS that's coming after, or rather busing migrants in, coming after you guys, right? 0.96

00:34:36.000 So it's absolutely absurd, and this is more of the BS same that, of course, The War Room is always covering and our audience is always burning down the phone lines, metaphorically, but absolute BS from Mike Johnson. 0.95

00:34:46.000 That's how jaded I am.

00:34:48.000 We often see Republicans break and pretend like they're not actually going to get behind what the plan is.

00:34:56.000 Like the Obamacare thing that I mentioned, we had a member of the Freedom Caucus in.

00:35:00.000 But also, this makes a lot more sense.

00:35:03.000 It's unsurprising.

00:35:04.000 If Speaker Johnson wanted to do this, the people who are more likely to break from him are going to be the ones who are more MAGA, and they're going to say, yeah, heck no.

00:35:11.000 I suppose, what is the issue then?

00:35:12.000 As you mentioned, they were going to strip it anyway.

00:35:14.000 Biden said he'd veto and the Senate was going to strip it.

00:35:17.000 But I suppose that's the point, anyway.

00:35:20.000 Is the issue, is the bigger issue that they, is these guys don't want to vote on it, like Matt Gaetz, he doesn't want to vote on continuing resolutions?

00:35:24.000 Yeah, that's the point.

00:35:27.000 Continuing, I think, $2.45 trillion in annual spending, so much so that we'd be paying $3 trillion just to service the debts that are already pre-existing.

00:35:37.000 I think it was a burn rate of $77,000 a second at the rate that they want to put out, like I said, with no substantive reform for going after any of these agencies, the same agencies that, you know, just two days ago you have Matthew Graves putting out a letter saying that Stephen K. Bannon can't get released from prison early because nothing Nothing happened and he just deserves to rot in a federal prison.

00:35:59.000 Yeah, let's make sure we fund his salary. 0.64

00:36:01.000 That's what Mike Johnson wants to do.

00:36:03.000 And by the way, it's all performative BS because Mike Johnson is the same dude who waited, what was it, 48 hours until Stephen K Bannon had to surrender to federal prison.

00:36:13.000 So we did something.

00:36:15.000 If these people actually cared, they would have nullified the January 6th subpoenas on day one of Congress.

00:36:20.000 Did they?

00:36:21.000 No.

00:36:21.000 What was the first thing Mike Johnson did?

00:36:23.000 Push for more aid to Ukraine.

00:36:25.000 And Israel and Taiwan.

00:36:27.000 So it shows you where their priorities are.

00:36:28.000 I see no difference between him and a Pelosi.

00:36:31.000 They're all just part of the machine, and they don't care about the people.

00:36:34.000 They are, to quote someone, listless vessels, right?

00:36:38.000 They are people who are pumped full of cash, whether it's the lobbyists, the donors, whatever foreign country wants them to act however they want.

00:36:44.000 And that's what these CRs are.

00:36:46.000 That's what they purposely do.

00:36:47.000 They don't pass the single subject spending bills.

00:36:50.000 Right?

00:36:50.000 Then you're pushed up against the wall, then you play the government shutdown politics, and our Republicans are so weak, they're so scared that MSNBC is going to say, oh, well, you're making this poor grandma in West Virginia not be able to eat dinner, right?

00:37:01.000 They got all the fear porn.

00:37:03.000 And Republicans have no backbone. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Shameful. 0.92

00:37:08.000 And it's disgusting that they would do this to election integrity.

00:37:08.000 It is.

00:37:12.000 I think the bigger issue is that Congress is just dysfunctional.

00:37:15.000 It's not a thing anymore.

00:37:16.000 If the person, like if Mike Johnson was like, alright, I'm not playing ball anymore.

00:37:19.000 I am now a rusty cog in this machine.

00:37:22.000 I'm stuck.

00:37:22.000 They're just gonna either Go after his family or his bank account or him personally, I would imagine.

00:37:27.000 Like, what do they do?

00:37:28.000 These people that are essentially being blackmailed.

00:37:31.000 Well, look at Trump.

00:37:32.000 They'll get you with a hundred years of prison sentences or they'll throw you in prison like Stephen K Bannon if you dare to stand up. 0.88

00:37:37.000 Or they'll try to assassinate you twice.

00:37:39.000 This is like me losing faith in the government in general.

00:37:42.000 Join the club.

00:37:44.000 You're just now losing it.

00:37:46.000 Like, incrementally, point by point, I'm like, well, I guess I can check this piece off now.

00:37:50.000 I mean, it's just, I'm reminded of how these people in politics, especially in the House of Representatives, are kind of stuck in a process that if they try and stop, they get, friction starts to build around them within the process that needs to keep... Or it's intentional.

00:38:05.000 They're the henchmen in front of the castle.

00:38:07.000 If it stops, the country goes bankrupt because people start to lose their jobs, and then we get invaded and conquered?

00:38:14.000 I mean, that's the fear, I guess?

00:38:15.000 So you just put funny money into the system until we conquer the world?

00:38:18.000 I don't know.

00:38:18.000 What's the plan?

00:38:20.000 I think it's very much, for many people, it's like this.

00:38:24.000 You get the job, you run for office, you say, I want to do these things.

00:38:27.000 You get in and they say, OK, we really like your idea for health care reform.

00:38:32.000 If we do that, however, if you knock this peg out right here, it's going to collapse over there.

00:38:39.000 What ends up happening is people go in and they tell you the machine is too big to be moved.

00:38:43.000 You have to make all of the major moves down this very narrow path.

00:38:49.000 And you can only change itty-bitty things every so often, which never actually have a big impact.

00:38:53.000 You can only pass bills about making sure we can't ban gas stoves.

00:38:57.000 Renaming post offices.

00:38:58.000 Yeah.

00:38:59.000 Because it takes someone brave to go in and say, I am making this change.

00:39:05.000 You see, Ron Paul, this is why I love the guy, he talked about Afghanistan and Iraq.

00:39:10.000 He said, they tell us that if we withdraw our troops, it'll be a catastrophe.

00:39:15.000 Because we went in, we destabilized government, and now we can't leave with an exit strategy.

00:39:20.000 And he said, no, when you prescribe the wrong medication, you stop it.

00:39:27.000 And that's the reality.

00:39:28.000 So right now, what we have is everybody gets into office and they're told, if you don't adhere to this rigid structure, everything will collapse.

00:39:36.000 It takes someone who's going to be brave to say, you know what?

00:39:38.000 Maybe I'll be a one-term president.

00:39:40.000 I'm going to make some changes that are going to result in some harsh realities for many Americans, but will be a better long-term solution, and they do it.

00:39:48.000 I think Donald Trump is more likely to do that, because he's headstrong, than Kamala Harris, who's a cog in the machine. 0.98

00:39:55.000 We need, like, ingenuity in Congress, and I don't know what the difference is between genuity and genius.

00:40:00.000 We just need someone that's able to transform our fuel economy.

00:40:04.000 We need hydrogen-gasoline hybrids.

00:40:06.000 But you need to convince people as well.

00:40:08.000 You need to be very charismatic because the oil and gas industry has to understand they're

00:40:12.000 going to end up making more money on this transfer when we start turning their coal

00:40:16.000 and oil into graphene.

00:40:17.000 We're going to be pumping more of it.

00:40:19.000 And then we're going to be having hydrogen so fuel will be cheaper for people.

00:40:22.000 If you can do that, then it doesn't matter if we print $3 trillion more, because it's really like putting a $30 billion debt in the total GDP, because the value will be greatly enhanced because things are so much cheaper due to the fuel resurgence.

00:40:35.000 What I love about Ian is that he keeps trying desperately to pitch these energy solutions to people who have no interest whatsoever in fixing anything.

00:40:43.000 You know, my role at Mines was Director of Energy.

00:40:45.000 Like when Trump always says, drill, baby, drill.

00:40:47.000 Yeah, drill, baby, drill, but also we can turn a lot of that stuff that we drill into graphene and hydrogen.

00:40:53.000 You know, Ian, let me tell you what's going on, right?

00:40:56.000 You come on the show and you say, we've got graphene.

00:40:59.000 It's revolutionary material.

00:41:02.000 Batteries charge faster.

00:41:04.000 We can make stronger materials, carbon fibers, all these amazing things.

00:41:07.000 We've got hydrogen energy.

00:41:08.000 Meanwhile, the politicians are sitting there with their pen and paper, and they're writing it down, and they're going, oh, that's really, really brilliant, Ian.

00:41:14.000 That's so great.

00:41:15.000 And then they say, thank you so much for telling me all that.

00:41:17.000 I've taken all the notes that I need.

00:41:19.000 And then when they get up to leave, you notice they were drawing pictures of cats the whole time.

00:41:22.000 Do you think it's that they don't have the cognitive facilities to understand it?

00:41:26.000 Or that they get bored?

00:41:28.000 Here's what happens.

00:41:29.000 A guy gets an office, and he's like, man, this Ian guy really convinced me on hydrogen and graphene, these new energies that are going to invigorate the American economy and help us break oil dependence.

00:41:43.000 They get in office, and then everyone around them says, yeah, we're going to lose 10,000 jobs in the oil industry if you start implementing these plans, and you'll never get elected again.

00:41:51.000 That's the problem.

00:41:52.000 We don't want to make the oil industry suffer.

00:41:54.000 I don't want to strip anything away from the coal and oil.

00:41:57.000 I want to enhance their ability to create.

00:41:59.000 I get it.

00:42:00.000 So we'll, instead of using it for petroleum, we'll be using it for graphene.

00:42:03.000 So we'll be using more oil.

00:42:05.000 We need to drill more.

00:42:06.000 We need to dig more coal out of the ground and upscale it into graphene with flash-joule heating.

00:42:10.000 You hit it with electricity at 7,000 degrees at point one.

00:42:13.000 They'll hit you with the NAACP and they'll say that you're hurting minority communities by doing that.

00:42:20.000 You can balance it out.

00:42:21.000 You don't have to drill more.

00:42:22.000 It's much simpler than all of this.

00:42:24.000 There's no point in you explaining how you want to help oil and drill more oil because the politician is going to go like this.

00:42:30.000 Once you say it, they're going to say, thank you, Ian.

00:42:32.000 They're going to look at their aid and say, I have no idea what he's talking about.

00:42:35.000 I have a fundraising call in one hour.

00:42:38.000 That's why we need more ingenuity in Congress in general.

00:42:38.000 Take care of this.

00:42:41.000 We need really...

00:42:42.000 Yeah, like scientists.

00:42:44.000 We need scientists to run for office right now. 1.00

00:42:45.000 No, you don't understand.

00:42:47.000 They have to fundraise to win their elections.

00:42:49.000 They have to cut checks.

00:42:51.000 We need rich, charismatic scientists.

00:42:52.000 How many of them are there?

00:42:53.000 We need them all right now.

00:42:54.000 Asim Harriman, Neil deGrasse Tyson, who else is there?

00:42:58.000 I don't know that Neil deGrasse Tyson is wealthy enough nor smart enough.

00:43:02.000 Bill Nye, we need Bill Nye.

00:43:03.000 Keep him away too, Ian, come on!

00:43:05.000 He's not a scientist!

00:43:06.000 You need a coalition, man.

00:43:07.000 He's not a scientist.

00:43:08.000 Bring back Dr. Fauci.

00:43:08.000 He's an engineer.

00:43:10.000 He's a mechanical engineer.

00:43:11.000 But we need engineers.

00:43:12.000 Dolph Lundgren reportedly has more degrees, science degrees.

00:43:15.000 We need Dolph Lundgren?

00:43:16.000 Good.

00:43:17.000 Bring him in.

00:43:18.000 Speaking of spooky scientists, Francis Collins was on MSNBC this morning and he said we need to inoculate people against misinformation preemptively.

00:43:29.000 Oh boy.

00:43:29.000 That's an actual quote.

00:43:30.000 With our boosters for that too then?

00:43:31.000 Great.

00:43:32.000 Awesome.

00:43:33.000 Bro, the vaccines have gone to your brain.

00:43:35.000 They will try that.

00:43:36.000 That's the solution to all this bankruptcy fear is better fuel systems.

00:43:40.000 I also think you're gonna have a hard time convincing the public right now of anything change like that because they're so, I think a lot of people are so anti-change in that degree because it sounds to a lot of people like Green New Deal-ish.

00:43:51.000 and they're so against it right now because it takes away, they think, so much of what we have or had, you know?

00:43:56.000 Which is why a lot of people go to Trump, because he's like, we've got to bring that back.

00:44:00.000 So you've got to find a way to have them convince them, but then like Tim's saying, the politicians don't care.

00:44:05.000 And don't care to convince anybody, because it's going to hurt the vote.

00:44:08.000 They're spending most of their time fundraising.

00:44:11.000 That's the reality of it.

00:44:13.000 I mean, Matt Gaetz comes and tells us this stuff.

00:44:15.000 That the politicians will sit there and listen and say, thank you for your time, and then once you walk out the door, they pick up the phone and say, I need money.

00:44:21.000 They're spending all their time fundraising so they can run for re-election again.

00:44:25.000 Look, when Marjorie Taylor Greene talks about how they don't actually show up to vote.

00:44:29.000 Remember when she was like, she sits down and she sees like four Democrats over here, four Republicans, and some guy who's not the speaker is just like, we got a bill that says this, and then four Republicans go, and the Democrats go, and they go, it passes, I guess, bang.

00:44:42.000 And that's what Congress is.

00:44:44.000 Because all of the members are actually on the phone fundraising, pretending to do work.

00:44:49.000 These are people, in my opinion, overwhelmingly, they lack merit, they could not make a mark themselves, so they said, I know, if I get elected to Congress, then my name will get recorded in the annals of history.

00:45:02.000 That's how they want to make their mark, instead of being great.

00:45:03.000 A lot of them made money and said, okay, now I can get attention and notoriety and be famous.

00:45:08.000 And then there are a lot of people that rank and file members of Congress you've never heard of, you don't even know their name, and they do nothing.

00:45:14.000 Literally, I don't even know what they're doing there in the first place.

00:45:17.000 And you have a tiny handful of members of Congress.

00:45:21.000 I think there's probably like, Ro Khanna, I like, he's a Democrat.

00:45:23.000 I don't agree with him, but I like him.

00:45:24.000 And then you've got maybe like, what, 10 or 12 Republicans. 0.99

00:45:28.000 And the rest of Congress is a bunch of garbled trash. 1.00

00:45:31.000 It's a dysfunctional cafeteria of fools. 1.00

00:45:32.000 They want to still get invited to the cocktail parties and go to the functions at Capitol Grill and, you know, you don't get that if, you know, MSNBC's speaking about you saying you're an election denier. 0.97

00:45:42.000 You work for two years, you get the security credentials, you leave, you get hired as a lobbyist for $400,000 a year, and then you go back and work on the Hill eating fancy steak dinners for the rest of your days saying, look, my company wants to drill, baby, drill, so we're going to come in and we're going to talk to the member of Congress and tell them what we want them to do and I'm going to be a lobbyist for the rest of my days.

00:45:59.000 Let's jump to this next story from SCNR.

00:45:59.000 Gross.

00:46:03.000 California bans AI-generated political deepfakes ahead of 2024 election.

00:46:08.000 We talked about it on the members show, so become a member at TimCast.com for more breaking news segments, and you can call into the show as a member.

00:46:08.000 This news broke last night.

00:46:15.000 So this is basically, it's the banning of memes.

00:46:18.000 Here's the important thing.

00:46:20.000 They passed a couple of bills.

00:46:22.000 They're largely about legal remedies for voter registration and certification

00:46:28.000 issues.

00:46:28.000 However, attached to them is this civil and criminal penalty or prohibitions on AI-generated

00:46:35.000 content that could be deceptive pertaining to celebrities or politicians. I think the reason

00:46:41.000 they're doing this angle about AI-generated videos are going to be prohibited is because

00:46:46.000 they don't want people to realize the bill is actually about legal remedies over voter

00:46:50.000 registration and certification.

00:46:52.000 Certification being a big deal.

00:46:54.000 What happens if California refuses to certify, or does certify, or if people who are in California refuse to certify, that's going to be in that law as well.

00:47:02.000 Now back to the memes.

00:47:04.000 It says, as long as when you make the video you write, this blank was made for the purpose of satire or parody, then it is exempt.

00:47:14.000 Yeah, right.

00:47:15.000 It needs a watermark on the video.

00:47:17.000 I don't know how you're going to do it with audio, though.

00:47:17.000 Nope.

00:47:18.000 Nope, nope, nope.

00:47:19.000 Ian, you are incorrect.

00:47:21.000 Now, they're claiming that, but I'm going to tell you exactly why that's not going to be the reality here.

00:47:24.000 First, this bill comes because Elon Musk shared a meme where Kamala Harris is speaking, just her voice, with random clips of Kamala and Biden, and she's saying, I'm a diversity hire, Joe Biden is a deep state puppet.

00:47:37.000 And he said, that should be illegal.

00:47:39.000 Well, clearly it wasn't Kamala Harris, but the bill says as long as you market satire or parody, right?

00:47:44.000 Okay, tell me this.

00:47:46.000 If you were to make a video of Kamala Harris speaking using AI that looked like she was speaking, and in no way does it look fake, and she says in the video, when I get elected, The first thing I want to do is pay for school loans for young people by cutting Social Security.

00:48:06.000 We'll take Social Security revenue and funding and use it to pay off the Social Security loan so that young people can have a chance.

00:48:13.000 And then, you have it say, I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message.

00:48:17.000 And in the last two seconds of it, it says on the bottom, with a black border and white text, this video is parody and not to be intended to be real.

00:48:26.000 Do you think that if someone made that video, Gavin Newsom's gonna be like, we're gonna allow that?

00:48:30.000 Or do you think he's gonna be like, we don't care, you're under arrest?

00:48:33.000 Or you're being sued or you're being shut down?

00:48:34.000 I think it needs to watermark the entire video personally, because if someone gets in there for three seconds and sees it, they need to know that that's a parody.

00:48:41.000 Even if.

00:48:43.000 So in the bottom of political ads it says, this is paid for by the whatever for campaign pack, right?

00:48:48.000 There's legal requirements for disclosure.

00:48:50.000 This video is paid for by Harris for president.

00:48:54.000 If you put that black bar at the bottom saying this video is paid for by Ian Crosland for parody purposes only.

00:49:01.000 They're not going to cut you slack.

00:49:03.000 They're going to say, nope, it was a deceptive ad.

00:49:06.000 It wasn't parody.

00:49:07.000 You only put that there so you can manipulate people and you're trying to exploit the law.

00:49:10.000 They will interpret it in whatever way they want.

00:49:13.000 And my example is Douglas Mackey shared a meme about texting to vote to Trump supporters that he did not make.

00:49:21.000 Someone else made it.

00:49:22.000 He thought it was funny.

00:49:23.000 He shared it.

00:49:23.000 He got convicted for it.

00:49:26.000 They're going to claim whatever they want.

00:49:28.000 And so when Elon Musk shares a video of Kamala Harris saying she's a diversity hire and Biden's a deep state puppet, who's going to believe that's real?

00:49:36.000 And he says that should be illegal.

00:49:38.000 You know they're not going to stop at parody and satire.

00:49:41.000 And the biggest point of all, if I do an impeccable impersonation of Donald Trump, so much so that you see a video of me saying, I'm Donald Trump and I want to gut Social Security tomorrow night, And they're going to be like, I don't know, that sounds just like Donald Trump, so that's illegal now. 0.91

00:49:59.000 That's ridiculous. 0.91

00:50:00.000 You can't do that. 0.99

00:50:00.000 It's when it's complete indiscernible impersonation. 0.99

00:50:04.000 So like if someone created an AI generated video of Donald Trump stabbing a guy to death, and it looks like him, and then MSNBC runs the video.

00:50:14.000 And you get a hundred million people that truly believe it's a real thing, and then the courts might even believe it's real.

00:50:19.000 Like, we need to know ahead of time if that was generated by artificial intelligence.

00:50:22.000 It's literally... I agree, but the point is, someone will make a video of Donald Trump wearing a do-rag playing basketball, and they're gonna write parody on it, and Gavin Newsom in California is gonna say, It wasn't written large enough, or it didn't explain parody in enough detail.

00:50:41.000 My point is this.

00:50:42.000 The bill says, as long as you label it, this video was made for the purpose of satire or parody, then it's exempt.

00:50:47.000 If you made a video that was Kamala Harris saying she wanted to cut Social Security, and I approve this message, and at the bottom it says parody, they are still going to treat that as though you didn't because it's so shockingly Like, they're going to say, no, no, that wasn't a joke.

00:51:02.000 That's you making a fake video of Harris attacking Social Security.

00:51:05.000 So you think that they're going to violate their own standards?

00:51:08.000 They always do.

00:51:10.000 Sometimes they do.

00:51:12.000 What do you mean by violate their own standards?

00:51:14.000 Like, you think this is a slippery slope mechanism where it's going to say you have to have this thing on the video.

00:51:19.000 And one day someone's going to do it and be like, you know what?

00:51:21.000 We're just going to say that video... Did you know that police arrest people for resisting arrest?

00:51:26.000 Yeah.

00:51:27.000 Now that doesn't seem to make sense, now does it?

00:51:28.000 It's like an extra charge you get, yeah.

00:51:30.000 No, no, no, you can be charged solely for this.

00:51:32.000 Well, you get resisting.

00:51:33.000 No.

00:51:33.000 I don't know, resisting detainment, I don't know.

00:51:35.000 You can be walking down the street, and the police will say stop, and you'll say I have no reason to, and they literally charge people with the sole crime of resisting arrest.

00:51:43.000 That's right.

00:51:43.000 I didn't know that, okay.

00:51:44.000 Because the government just makes up whatever they want.

00:51:47.000 What is defined disorderly conduct?

00:51:49.000 Oh, jeez.

00:51:50.000 Exactly.

00:51:54.000 So, in Chicago, you can get a ticket for improper use of horn.

00:51:59.000 I had a friend who pulled up his car to his friend's house in front of a park, and he honked the horn.

00:52:06.000 Friend comes running out, and the cop that was at the park walked over and gave him a ticket for improper use of horn.

00:52:10.000 There are reasons for that, because if you live there and every 20 minutes you hear people honking outside, it's like noise pollution.

00:52:16.000 But those things can spin out of control.

00:52:17.000 What if that honk saved someone's life?

00:52:21.000 Maybe they wouldn't get, hopefully they wouldn't.

00:52:23.000 And the argument from the cop was that the purpose of the horn is to alert someone when something is happening.

00:52:27.000 What are you talking about?

00:52:28.000 People honk at each other all the time.

00:52:29.000 There's a place in New York like that, too, because it's just so high traffic.

00:52:32.000 New York has the quiet zones.

00:52:32.000 Yes.

00:52:34.000 The selective application.

00:52:35.000 And I think as someone who is Steve Bannon's co-host, I understand how the contempt of Congress charge is selectively applied.

00:52:40.000 And it only seems to people like Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon. 0.99

00:52:44.000 But I also feel like this Newsom law is sort of the outcrop or the logical extension of what is, I think, and has always been a very insulting premise, which is the idea that Americans are so dumb. 0.89

00:52:54.000 That in 2016, a couple of Russian articles, you know, swayed who they voted for, right?

00:52:58.000 That's the only reason that you could only support Trump is if you were bombarded with, you know, the Cambridge Analytica type, you know, convergence of misinformation, Russian misinformation at that.

00:53:09.000 I think this is sort of the same thing I know with AI.

00:53:11.000 It's a little more precarious.

00:53:12.000 There are videos, they do look very real.

00:53:15.000 But I think, again, it's just sort of insulting to the intelligence of people that you can't discern what is a joke and what is not and that your political views and values are so finicky that they could be swayed, right, by some AI video.

00:53:26.000 And I think, too, the other angle of this that I also find interesting, which, again, You know, it's not really a novel thing, but like the idea of who gets to decide what misinformation is, right?

00:53:36.000 And what is accurate and what isn't.

00:53:38.000 And I think it's funny because when Putin, what was it two weeks ago, comes out and, you know, says, Oh, I love Kamala's laugh and I'm voting for her.

00:53:45.000 It's like, okay, he said that he was literal and saying that, but the mainstream media They said, oh, he was joking.

00:53:52.000 It's like, maybe he was, but you guys don't know that, right?

00:53:56.000 So it's just interesting how they can, like, draw color or just be a little more nuanced or subtle in the way that they look at certain clips when it doesn't work to their advantage.

00:54:04.000 Or I would draw the distinction, too, when you're talking about the Springfield bomb threats, 33 of 33 ended up being hoaxes.

00:54:11.000 They always called those bomb threats and gave it 24-7 air coverage.

00:54:14.000 But whenever it's an assassination attempt on President Trump, it's alleged.

00:54:17.000 An incident.

00:54:18.000 Right.

00:54:19.000 So the way that they play with the words, it's very interesting.

00:54:22.000 And I think any more power in the hands of Governor Gavin Newsom is really bad, let alone AI.

00:54:27.000 That's why they keep moving the goalposts with all this stuff.

00:54:29.000 They mean nothing.

00:54:29.000 They have no moral center.

00:54:31.000 And with the anti-mean bill, it's like, don't imprison me because you're ignorant and humorless. 0.96

00:54:36.000 But the AI stuff I get, because that's scary.

00:54:38.000 But I still think it's on the reporters and the people for misinterpreting.

00:54:41.000 I don't think we should be labeling things because we don't know who everyone is.

00:54:44.000 It's all subjective now.

00:54:45.000 You can't say this is parody.

00:54:46.000 Isn't that also democracy?

00:54:48.000 Someone made a fake pee tape where there's a camera at a low angle and someone who looks like Trump sitting in a chair while a woman's on a bed and this was presumably made with the intention of tricking people into thinking Donald Trump actually did the pee tape.

00:55:02.000 Yeah.

00:55:02.000 Well, it's just, I'm concerned about AI replication.

00:55:06.000 It's different than parody.

00:55:08.000 Parody, you know?

00:55:09.000 It's like, okay, that's a parody of the thing.

00:55:11.000 No, you don't.

00:55:11.000 It's Alex Stein in a wig.

00:55:13.000 It's parody.

00:55:13.000 But absolute replication, you would call that impersonation, is illegal under the law.

00:55:19.000 So if you're going to impersonate someone with an artificial... No, no, no, it isn't.

00:55:24.000 If you're impersonating a politician with AI and you're saying like, missiles have been fired, we are under attack, these kind of things can happen real fast.

00:55:38.000 If the Saudi Arabian government makes a deepfake of the president saying that they fired missiles, Gavin Newsom can't stop him.

00:55:47.000 If someone shares it, now that bill specifically says if you know you're sharing misinformation, if you know that it's an AI thing and you're sharing it, if you don't know and you do it, you're not going to be held under this law.

00:55:56.000 I don't know how they're going to figure out if you or not.

00:55:59.000 They're going to have to define AI as well.

00:56:04.000 Good luck defining what constitutes an AI generated image or video.

00:56:09.000 They're going to write procedurally generated videos meant to imitate real, like, it's going to be weird garbled jargon, which is going to have loopholes built into it.

00:56:19.000 And like, someone's going to build an AI that builds AI that replicate people.

00:56:24.000 No, they're going to... Hey, my hands are off it, I didn't tell the AI to do that.

00:56:27.000 Like, designer drugs, they're going to say, what did you make illegal?

00:56:30.000 Okay, we're going to make something that slightly doesn't fit the definition of that.

00:56:34.000 They're going to say, OK, it's not AI generated if you speak the words yourself and you use a pitch shifter to make you sound like a person.

00:56:42.000 That's not AI, that's pitch shift.

00:56:43.000 How does it work to—I haven't really familiarized myself with the bill all that much, but I feel like, you know, since the new narrative is that the number one threat, we're in a state of national emergency because of foreign election interference.

00:56:53.000 Does this apply just to domestic content?

00:56:55.000 But what about stuff that's originating overseas?

00:56:58.000 How do you hold those people accountable?

00:56:59.000 What they're going—I mean, you can't. 0.79

00:57:02.000 Like, Iran could make a video of- I feel like most videos, too, originate- Like, there was the weird one of, like, the black guys, like, beating up that white chick, didn't it? 0.72

00:57:09.000 I think it originated from Russia.

00:57:12.000 That's what the reporting is now, that that video- Yeah.

00:57:14.000 And you always gotta- And this one's obvious, too, because you couldn't see anybody's faces.

00:57:18.000 Whenever you can't see a person's face in a video, just don't trust it. 0.89

00:57:21.000 Foreigners also suck at propaganda and deepfakes. 1.00

00:57:24.000 I feel like that just has to be said. 0.99

00:57:25.000 You can always tell.

00:57:28.000 People were sharing that video like crazy. 0.97

00:57:30.000 It's a video of two black men kicking a white girl, and you can't see their faces, and she's covering her face. 0.92

00:57:35.000 And you gotta ask yourself, why are they filming this? 0.75

00:57:38.000 Who is this person? 0.90

00:57:39.000 And the story that was being put out was that a woman was going to a Trump rally, and some black man attacked her.

00:57:44.000 And it's like, yeah, that's not real.

00:57:45.000 They said it was mega-country.

00:57:47.000 Yeah, right.

00:57:48.000 A reverse Jesse Smollett.

00:57:49.000 Synthetic replication on every level should be labeled at any possible juncture.

00:57:54.000 If an AI, if you meet like a synthetic human, they should have to tell you that they're not a real human.

00:57:58.000 Wait, does this mean like Instagram models are gonna have to disclose that they've edited in FaceTune?

00:58:03.000 Do they have Botox?

00:58:03.000 You are all filter.

00:58:05.000 I don't know, but I'm really concerned with artificial intelligence replication, because it's becoming indiscernible from reality.

00:58:11.000 Look, I detest AI.

00:58:12.000 I don't use it, I don't like it, but I also don't like regulation.

00:58:16.000 It's going to come down to people having to understand how to just live with it now, because there's no getting rid of it.

00:58:20.000 There's no understanding the difference.

00:58:21.000 There's no getting rid of it.

00:58:22.000 It's going to be completely indiscernible to the human brain.

00:58:26.000 I think it's fair to say none of this is actually AI, and that's the issue about defining AI.

00:58:31.000 We used to say artificial intelligence, and then when people played video games and the enemy soldiers would run around, they'd say, it's A.I.

00:58:40.000 No, it's not.

00:58:41.000 It's the NPC behavior model.

00:58:45.000 A.I.

00:58:46.000 was meant as artificial intelligence, quite literally meaning an entity of some sort of computer that you could not discern between a human or the computer.

00:58:54.000 We now call that artificial general intelligence.

00:58:57.000 generated, this is just algorithmically generated video.

00:58:57.000 A.I.

00:59:00.000 That's a good point.

00:59:01.000 It's procedurally generated video.

00:59:02.000 Yeah, you might have procedurally generated video that's indiscernible as well.

00:59:05.000 So it doesn't really matter if an AI did it or if... No, no, no, no.

00:59:07.000 There is no AI right now.

00:59:09.000 There's no AI.

00:59:10.000 We just use AI to refer to procedural generation.

00:59:13.000 Well, people use programs like Suno or like... It's not AI.

00:59:16.000 What is it?

00:59:18.000 So, artificial intelligence would be indiscernible from a human being.

00:59:23.000 Intelligence that was created by man.

00:59:25.000 Suno is not intelligent.

00:59:26.000 It's procedurally generated music.

00:59:29.000 Mid Journey and ChatGPT and Brock Making Photos, it's procedurally generated imagery.

00:59:34.000 So you're saying ChatGPT is not AI?

00:59:36.000 We colloquially refer to these things as artificial intelligence, but it's a search engine.

00:59:42.000 It's an algorithmic procedural search engine.

00:59:46.000 AI was supposed to mean you'd say, how are you doing?

00:59:50.000 And you'd have a robot in front of you and being like, I feel quite good today, Ian.

00:59:54.000 How was your day?

00:59:55.000 And you'd talk to it.

00:59:56.000 And the way it's supposed to be, artificial intelligence, it was originally meant to refer

01:00:03.000 to something indiscernible from a human being like data from Star Trek.

01:00:08.000 Like, it walks around, it talks, or the computer talks to you and you're like, is this a person or not?

01:00:11.000 I can't tell.

01:00:12.000 We now call that AGI.

01:00:15.000 And we're referring to... Look, what... How is it artificial intelligence to make a photo of something?

01:00:21.000 I don't know.

01:00:22.000 Suno represents itself as AI.

01:00:24.000 It says it's a generative artificial intelligence music creation program.

01:00:28.000 And they're using artificial intelligence because it sells and gets money for them from startups.

01:00:33.000 But artificial intelligence was supposed to be like...

01:00:36.000 A reference to human intelligence, but artificially created.

01:00:40.000 Not, it can compile a bunch of songs and then create a facsimile.

01:00:44.000 What you're saying is, AI, the way we think of it, should be separate of humans.

01:00:48.000 It's not feeding off us, like leeching off us, like ChatGB to me and Journey is.

01:00:51.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:00:51.000 AI can do all that.

01:00:52.000 The point is, go way back in time, and people used to say that...

01:00:58.000 Facebook's algorithm was AI.

01:01:00.000 It's like, no, it's an algorithm.

01:01:02.000 It's just if this, then that.

01:01:04.000 And artificial general intelligence was supposed to represent the point at which something became independent and aware and capable of communication that was indiscernible from another human being.

01:01:16.000 Now we say, I tell a computer program to draw a picture of a dog and we're like, it's intelligent.

01:01:21.000 No, it's not.

01:01:22.000 It's a computer algorithm that aligns dots based on other dots it's seen.

01:01:26.000 We call that AI now.

01:01:28.000 That's my point.

01:01:29.000 My point is, we've begun to call everything artificial intelligence, despite the fact a generative image program doesn't communicate anything.

01:01:39.000 When we say, make a picture of Kamala Harris doing a backflip, all it's doing is looking through a massive database of photographs, connecting the text from those photos to the images, and then doing a rapid interpretation of what is most likely to be Kamala Harris doing a backflip.

01:01:53.000 Yeah, Mid Journey also says, calls itself a generative artificial intelligence program, so you might be right that these are just... Maybe the generative is doing heavy lifting in that, as in using all the things we've already done on the internet to then make this thing.

01:02:04.000 But to your point, it doesn't need to be AI to be an absolute replication of a person, like an impersonation, so... Real quick, you made a good point about it should be able to produce something without leeching off of us, and I think the way to describe that is, I don't believe AI can come up with new ideas.

01:02:21.000 Like Grok, ChatGPT, these things aren't going to say, there's not going to be a point where you go, hey Grok, what you doing?

01:02:30.000 There's no point which Grok is going to say, like right now, you know what?

01:02:34.000 I was just thinking about something.

01:02:36.000 Did you ever notice that like the sun and the moon are the same size when you look at the sky?

01:02:42.000 Isn't that weird?

01:02:43.000 That the distance is perfect?

01:02:44.000 It's never going to come and theorize something like, you know, I was thinking about how people talk about ghosts, and I was thinking about multidimensional theory and how time could be a spatial dimension that we, you know, you could interpret as a spatial dimension.

01:02:57.000 So maybe ghosts are just beings that can move in the fifth dimension.

01:03:01.000 And so when they pass the fourth dimension, we see these fleeting images.

01:03:04.000 AI is not going to do that.

01:03:04.000 Or you don't think AI will ever start thinking about you?

01:03:06.000 It'll just be sitting around, it'll be like, I gotta call Tim.

01:03:09.000 Oh, AG, I'll be like, I wonder what he's up to?

01:03:11.000 Give you a ring on the phone?

01:03:12.000 Artificial intelligence was supposed to be a reference to the point at which a computer program created by man would theorize and imagine and create and be indiscernible from a human being.

01:03:24.000 Now, look, my point is this.

01:03:27.000 When you think of the word artificial intelligence, why do we imagine Photoshop?

01:03:32.000 Like, no, for real, you go to Photoshop, and you circle an area, and then click a button, and then it will, like, fill that area in, and they call that AI.

01:03:39.000 Isn't this kind of the debate with the Rittenhouse trial, when they blew up the picture, and they were saying this is artificially enhanced?

01:03:44.000 You know, and they were like- Computer-generated imagery.

01:03:46.000 About what this meant, and how if we could even- CGI.

01:03:48.000 I mean, that's CGI.

01:03:49.000 It's really just Gavin Newsom being mad that the left can't meme, so they had to codify it in legislation.

01:03:55.000 It's now illegal to laugh in California.

01:03:57.000 Sorry.

01:03:58.000 Let's move on from the AI talk, though, because I don't want to go in circles, and we'll talk about other terrifying technology in the Nightmare Dystopia.

01:04:03.000 Israel detonates Hezbollah walkie-talkies a day after pager attack.

01:04:10.000 I was reporting on the aftermath of the Pager explosions.

01:04:12.000 For those that aren't familiar, 2,800 injuries, some estimates of around 4,000 Hezbollah Pagers exploded all over the country.

01:04:20.000 And in the middle of talking about the updates, and it was now confirmed that Israel did it, numerous reports saying Israel did it, someone superchats, walkie-talkies are exploding right now.

01:04:31.000 The news reporting is, after the Pagers blow up, their radios start blowing up.

01:04:38.000 Just think about what this means.

01:04:39.000 They're saying right now, 14 people were killed and 450 were wounded.

01:04:43.000 How do they trigger the walkie-talkies now?

01:04:45.000 This means, if you're Hezbollah, your radios, your phones, your TVs, your cars, nothing is safe. 1.00

01:04:54.000 I mean, if you're a human, your TVs, your radios, your cars... No, this is all Hezbollah. 1.00

01:04:58.000 No one is... That's what they did yesterday, but... And the walkie-talkies were also Hezbollah. 0.78

01:05:01.000 All the other devices aren't ready to blow.

01:05:04.000 Can you verify one way or the other?

01:05:05.000 I can't.

01:05:06.000 No, I think anyone can hack this now.

01:05:07.000 I mean...

01:05:08.000 Well these weren't hacked, these were tampered with and explosives were planted in them.

01:05:11.000 Right.

01:05:11.000 So if you've got pagers, which only Hezbollah was using, citizens weren't really using them, though there are reports that they would hand them off to other people.

01:05:18.000 The argument from others is that... So there are reports that some civilians had these pagers?

01:05:25.000 Other people just say, that's a lie, they're just Hezbollah.

01:05:27.000 Like, why would Hezbollah go give a random civilian one of their pagers? 0.65

01:05:29.000 Doesn't make sense.

01:05:30.000 Why would Hezbollah be trying to communicate with a random civilian, unless that civilian is aiding and abetting Hezbollah or whatever?

01:05:36.000 The point is, largely Hezbollah. 0.51

01:05:38.000 No, but the one thing I will say, if you are a regular civilian citizen in Lebanon, no more crowded gatherings, there's a video of people, like, dancing to music outside, and then one guy just blows up.

01:05:49.000 His walkie-talkie explodes and he falls to the ground.

01:05:51.000 And then what the Israeli government will justify and be like, well, they must have gotten that from someone connected to Hezbollah, so they deserve to get blown up.

01:05:57.000 No, the walkie-talkies are Hezbollah.

01:06:00.000 The pagers, I can argue like they might give those up for some reason, but the walkie-talkies are military purpose.

01:06:06.000 For now, but until they give a pack of six of them to a couple families that need to communicate because the phone lines have been cut.

01:06:13.000 Why would the phone lines have been cut?

01:06:14.000 I don't know, because a bomb dropped somewhere.

01:06:16.000 I don't know what the situation is.

01:06:17.000 How often have U.S.

01:06:18.000 soldiers handed you a walkie-talkie?

01:06:20.000 Well, they handed the Taliban about $86 billion worth of equipment.

01:06:24.000 Yeah, if the U.S.

01:06:26.000 military surrendered all that equipment and all of it was laced with explosives, we'd be having a very, very, very different conversation.

01:06:32.000 Yeah, that's not a bad war tactic. 0.96

01:06:33.000 We're not talking about—we're talking about civilians.

01:06:36.000 And so the issue is, for one, I don't—this means nothing to me.

01:06:39.000 We're talking about war between Israel and Lebanon.

01:06:42.000 Lebanon firing missiles into Israel nonstop for decades and ramping up in recent time.

01:06:47.000 Israel engaging in what some estimate a year-long operation to intercept and plant explosives in Hezbollah equipment.

01:06:55.000 Now there's collateral damage.

01:06:57.000 I don't—look, Make all the arguments you want.

01:07:01.000 Hezbollah fires a rocket into a civilian area.

01:07:03.000 Israel detonates a pager in a civilian area.

01:07:03.000 Civilians die.

01:07:06.000 Civilians get injured.

01:07:06.000 Civilian gets injured.

01:07:07.000 There's a report of, I think, one civilian death over the pagers.

01:07:11.000 The reporting that I've seen so far is that 12 civilians are reported dead by Lebanon, but Hezbollah says 11 of our soldiers died.

01:07:19.000 As if to indicate 11 of the 12 civilians were actually Hezbollah and there's one civilian death.

01:07:24.000 I think some of those walkie-talkies exploded at a funeral for someone who died with the pager.

01:07:28.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:07:29.000 Think about it.

01:07:30.000 The pagers all blow up.

01:07:31.000 Hezbollah then says, get rid of the pagers.

01:07:33.000 Get the walkie-talkies.

01:07:35.000 They grab the walkie-talkie and it explodes.

01:07:37.000 And now they're going to be like, we have no means of communication.

01:07:40.000 What do you do?

01:07:41.000 I mean, this is crazy what we're looking at in terms of warfare.

01:07:45.000 It's crazy.

01:07:46.000 I mean, thinking about what Ian, what you were saying in the beginning about how it could be anyone, anywhere, anytime.

01:07:51.000 Like, I know you're saying it was planted stuff, but I also think it can be hacked.

01:07:54.000 And it made me think of, to bring up our friend Dick Cheney again, Back in the day, when he was vice president, he was worried that they were going to hack his pacemaker and get him that way.

01:08:04.000 So this is fears that have been boiling with these people for a long time.

01:08:07.000 Yeah, modern war.

01:08:08.000 They call it the unexpected.

01:08:10.000 They can get you with anything.

01:08:12.000 They got satellites in the sky circling you like giant vultures that can map everything you do, and they can tap right into your phone at any point.

01:08:19.000 With Pegasus, there's another Israeli spyware device that can crack any phone open.

01:08:24.000 I think all the Five Eyes have across the world. 1.00

01:08:27.000 Good stuff.

01:08:29.000 Everyone should be very happy.

01:08:30.000 Man, it's nuts to think that it could ever get to the point where they pre-plant explosives in your digital devices so you follow them.

01:08:36.000 So you're forced to do what they say?

01:08:38.000 It's nuts.

01:08:38.000 Yeah.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, what they're gonna do- What would you do right now if an alert went out on all phones?

01:08:43.000 You know, they do the presidential alert, and it said, these phones may have been tampered with and could explode.

01:08:48.000 Dispose of them immediately.

01:08:50.000 Throw them in the trap door you built right here.

01:08:52.000 No, but in all seriousness, what do you do?

01:08:53.000 We would probably bankrupt the company that made them if the law was still being followed, because everyone would want to return their phone.

01:08:59.000 Every person's going to ditch the phone.

01:09:02.000 Yeah.

01:09:04.000 And it could be a fake mess notice, too.

01:09:06.000 Like, what an act of terrorism to sow confusion in a nation.

01:09:09.000 Absolutely.

01:09:10.000 Well, just the knowledge of this happening now is going to be a psychological effect on everybody, everywhere.

01:09:15.000 But, you know, it's good that it's public.

01:09:17.000 It's good that we know that it's a possibility now.

01:09:20.000 Think about what would happen if a totalitarian government decided to secretly implant small explosives in all these devices.

01:09:26.000 We can't open the backs anymore.

01:09:28.000 Remember?

01:09:28.000 You could pop the back off your phone and change the battery.

01:09:30.000 You can't do that anymore.

01:09:31.000 Imagine you're a dissident.

01:09:34.000 Let's say you're a dissident, but you're not like an extremist or anything.

01:09:39.000 You're a personality.

01:09:40.000 You talk.

01:09:41.000 The government can't stand you.

01:09:42.000 You're a rival politician.

01:09:43.000 And then one day, you're driving at a high rate of speed.

01:09:45.000 They're tracking your device.

01:09:46.000 They can see.

01:09:48.000 And they detonate the device.

01:09:50.000 And it pops.

01:09:51.000 You lose control of the vehicle.

01:09:52.000 You're going 80 miles an hour.

01:09:53.000 You fly outside of a bridge into the water, and you're dead.

01:09:56.000 Especially phones, man, because you hold them next to your head.

01:09:59.000 Who was the guy who- It was a movie, remember?

01:10:01.000 What was a movie where the guy takes the phone to his ear and then it blows up in his- Earbuds, dude.

01:10:04.000 You know how many earbuds there are that have little nano-explosives in these freaking things? 0.96

01:10:09.000 And they put them inside your ears?

01:10:10.000 What was the guy in the car that they made speed up?

01:10:13.000 Remember he went really fast as a journalist or someone?

01:10:15.000 We don't know if that's true, but that was Michael Hastings.

01:10:18.000 They said the story... The story with Hastings is that he went to his neighbor's house one day complaining that he saw someone tampering with his vehicle and needed to borrow their car, and they said no.

01:10:27.000 Then he was speeding 70 or 80 miles an hour down Wilshire Boulevard in L.A.

01:10:30.000 At 3 in the morning after he got hammered, I think, too.

01:10:33.000 He was out.

01:10:33.000 I don't know if we know anything about him.

01:10:34.000 I don't know if he was drunk or not, but he was out real late.

01:10:36.000 I don't think that's part of the story.

01:10:37.000 The story was that he was going 78 miles an hour down Wilshire and crashed into a tree and the car exploded and he died.

01:10:42.000 He kept saying, they're trying to kill me, they're gonna kill me, and then that night... He was working on a story about some general, I can't remember which one.

01:10:48.000 Yeah, I forget.

01:10:50.000 And he was paranoid, he saw somebody under his car.

01:10:55.000 And then his car crashed and his family says, no, it's not the case.

01:10:58.000 He was troubled and that's it.

01:11:01.000 Those are situations where someone gets to your device and then tampers it.

01:11:04.000 But like, if they're getting tampered in the factory, maybe we need oversight.

01:11:07.000 Maybe we need some way to inspect these things.

01:11:09.000 Why I'm so against electric cars.

01:11:11.000 And I like looking at the Cybertruck.

01:11:11.000 I love them.

01:11:12.000 I think it's really cool to look at.

01:11:14.000 But there were stories about, or maybe it was just like theories, but I think it's possible, you know, the repo man can just remotely, you know, take your car back.

01:11:20.000 if it's electric. Just, you know, return to me with his phone.

01:11:24.000 So like Geneva Convention, you know, that we set it up so that people don't gas each other in war,

01:11:29.000 we try and keep war humane. This, like, earbud explosives sounds like kind of like maybe we

01:11:34.000 should have some sort of regulation on these things. So not that the dirtiest evil won't

01:11:40.000 just ignore them.

01:11:41.000 But the whole point is the dirtiest evil fails and everyone else can rally around to stop them.

01:11:45.000 So if someone's unwilling to disclose their technology to their allies and be like, just your citizens know, here's how you verify that it's safe, probably what that is, then the enemy can verify that theirs are safe or not.

01:11:56.000 There's no secrets.

01:11:56.000 I mean, they're all listening to everyone.

01:11:57.000 Instead of the hundreds of billions of dollars that we gave to Ukraine on tanks and missiles and planes, you're telling me we could have just used pagers?

01:12:04.000 I do think it's interesting, though, obviously, the debate now about the use of long-range missiles in Ukraine seems like so, you know, yesterday with this, like, fifth-generation form of warfare, though I'd argue in Washington, D.C., I think maybe it's not exploding pager devices, but they certainly know how to Detonate politicians that are on the foreign payroll when they want them to vote a certain way on on a bill I think you saw that today

01:12:30.000 That's crazy.

01:12:31.000 What, Bill?

01:12:32.000 The CR.

01:12:35.000 It's crazy to think about the long-range missiles.

01:12:36.000 That was just the other day.

01:12:37.000 And time is accelerating.

01:12:40.000 By the way, also super weird thing on the whole long-range missile thing.

01:12:43.000 Again, not to go full conspiracy theorist, but hypothetically, no.

01:12:49.000 Do you think it is weird that the shooter, like Mr. Ukraine, right? 0.94

01:12:54.000 He comes the same time that you see NATO starting their push for the use of long-range missiles.

01:13:00.000 In Ukraine, just an interesting... I don't believe in coincidences.

01:13:03.000 No conspiracies, no coincidences, but very interesting that a guy who is, you know, starring in Azov Italian ads that are funded by Joe Biden, a guy who says, you know, military conscript letters for the Ukrainian International Legion on his Facebook pops up.

01:13:17.000 There's always an interesting... I heard he was a Republican.

01:13:20.000 What's the long range... Despite the 19 Democratic donations.

01:13:23.000 Yeah.

01:13:23.000 Right.

01:13:24.000 I've been playing a lot of RimWorld lately, so I haven't been studying these long-range ballistics.

01:13:29.000 I was coaching Ian on some video games before the show that I used to play, and he didn't know any of them.

01:13:34.000 Follow me on X and YouTube and Twitch, and we will game hard later tonight, actually.

01:13:39.000 They want Zelensky to be able to use, sort of at an unprecedented, they've never done it before, longer-range missiles to be able to strike more into the interior of Russia.

01:13:46.000 Which would really escalate, obviously, the conflict there.

01:13:49.000 So there's a lot of back and forth.

01:13:51.000 Blinken was just over in Ukraine with the UK.

01:13:54.000 There was sort of a joint visit there trying to get them to approve the use of it.

01:13:59.000 NATO is saying, oh, we want every member country to be able to decide by themselves.

01:14:02.000 But now they're sort of saying that it's playing into politics because they know if Joe Biden greenlights it, that Americans probably wouldn't like that because it's obviously going to escalate the conflict there.

01:14:12.000 But it's NATO being NATO.

01:14:15.000 Is Joe Biden just an empty vessel to get us to World War III for Kamala Harris?

01:14:20.000 A listless vessel, yes.

01:14:21.000 A listless vessel, yeah.

01:14:22.000 That's insane.

01:14:24.000 Putin was saying that Russia has hypersonic missiles that can't be shot down in 2019.

01:14:30.000 I think he was boasting about that.

01:14:31.000 He's like, people don't even understand what they're messing with.

01:14:33.000 Nuclear weapons are old school.

01:14:34.000 These things come from— You can come straight down, too.

01:14:37.000 I mean— No, no, no.

01:14:38.000 Hypersonic missiles are close to the Earth, and so what makes them dangerous is that radar doesn't detect them fast enough.

01:14:43.000 So traditional ICBMs go high.

01:14:47.000 And then the way you can imagine it is you have the Earth and the curvature, so when you're blasting radar and looking for these things, the missiles that go up, they get caught in the radar.

01:14:56.000 We can see it coming.

01:14:57.000 Hypersonics are actually slower, but they're so close to the Earth that our radar detection, it goes underneath it.

01:15:03.000 By the time we detect it, it's too late, and bam!

01:15:05.000 And like, one of those things 700 miles off the coast of D.C.

01:15:09.000 from a Russian nuclear submarine comes up and then just parallels to the water.

01:15:13.000 This is the tsunami bomb.

01:15:15.000 Russia supposedly has what's called a tsunami bomb where they detonate a nuke in a coastal area by a city causing a massive wave to slam into the city causing tens of millions of damage. 0.62

01:15:24.000 I've got to imagine the Russians, nobody in that country wants the world to go to that place, but... 0.99

01:15:31.000 You know, they say there's this phrase, backed into a corner, when someone's backed into a corner, and a lot of animals will fight just the most viciously they've ever fought if they're backed into a corner.

01:15:41.000 Rabbits.

01:15:42.000 Yeah, a lot of things.

01:15:43.000 Wolverines, all sorts of terrifying animals.

01:15:45.000 Humans, too, sometimes.

01:15:46.000 The story goes like this.

01:15:47.000 This is an old story.

01:15:48.000 It probably happens a lot, but I remember reading this story like 20 years ago.

01:15:51.000 It was two guys in Texas.

01:15:53.000 Guy gets rear-ended.

01:15:55.000 The guy who gets rear-ended is pissed off, gets out of his car, you know, he's hit, not a lot of damage, he gets out screaming and yelling, and he's strapped.

01:16:04.000 He's got his open carry.

01:16:06.000 The other guy gets out of his car and sees the guy getting out of his car, walking towards him, screaming in anger, and he puts his hand on his side and holds his hand up.

01:16:13.000 The other dude sees him going towards his gun, and he grabs his gun and pulls it out.

01:16:17.000 The other guy sees him pulling the gun out, they're both pointing the guns at each other, and one guy gets shot. 0.99

01:16:21.000 And so, the situation was described as The first guy was just being like, hey man, get away from me, you're crazy.

01:16:28.000 And he was putting his hand near his hip, not to draw the weapon, but to be like, ready in case the other guy did.

01:16:32.000 The other guy saw him move his hand towards his gun and thought, this guy's gonna pull his gun out, so he pulls his gun out.

01:16:37.000 The other guy sees him draw his weapon, so he raises his, the other guy raises his, and then one guy gets shot.

01:16:40.000 So when Putin was saying that he's happy, he wants Kamala Harris to win the presidency, he's like, I love her laugh.

01:16:46.000 I mean, I think he was joking too.

01:16:49.000 And that gives me hope.

01:16:50.000 He's not the guy screaming in rage for getting rear-ended.

01:16:50.000 He's not angry.

01:16:53.000 He's at least calm and collected about this situation, even though he's probably super concerned about it escalating.

01:17:01.000 But are there people behind the scenes that are just like, or is it more just like, let's just set off some nuclear devastation and reap the benefits.

01:17:08.000 We'll go in there with the realities.

01:17:09.000 It's all of it.

01:17:10.000 There are people I met during Occupy Wall Street who quite literally said their purpose was to watch the world burn.

01:17:15.000 And it's not an exaggeration, and I'm not being cute, and I'm not being mean, I quite literally was sitting in a room full of a bunch of people who were at Occupy, some of them were journalists, and a journalist told me that she was a nihilist who didn't think there was a reason for life to be, and that we're just here to shake things up, don't you want to just watch it all I guess nihilists don't get to the top of the power structure, but they can be born from people that were at the top of the power structure and inherit it.

01:17:38.000 Completely disagree.

01:17:39.000 Some of these nihilists use any and all amoral means to get power because they don't believe there is a purpose to life.

01:17:46.000 But why would they try if they really don't care?

01:17:48.000 Because they're bored!

01:17:49.000 Yeah, but boredom doesn't drive people to greatness.

01:17:51.000 What was explained to me at Occupy was, there's no reason for anything, so let's just shake it up and watch it all burn.

01:17:56.000 Just a bunch of no-names that you don't even remember?

01:17:58.000 I know exactly who this person is, and they worked for the New York Times.

01:18:02.000 They're not like, running corporations and like, in charge of infrastructure, because people that really don't care don't go that far.

01:18:08.000 But the problem is, Those people's kids can be nihilists and then they have all the money and they have control of companies and weapons programs.

01:18:16.000 I assure you, Ian, they absolutely are amoral nihilists who run large corporations.

01:18:20.000 that have earned it through merit, you think?

01:18:22.000 Maybe.

01:18:22.000 Maybe there are.

01:18:23.000 I don't think that that personality type tends towards power.

01:18:26.000 I mean, here's a simple one.

01:18:28.000 A guy works in an office.

01:18:29.000 He looks over at his co-worker who comes up with a brilliant idea.

01:18:32.000 He copies the files, goes to the boss, and says, here's an idea I came up with.

01:18:35.000 Now he's a manager, and the other guy's like, you stole my idea.

01:18:37.000 Prove it in court.

01:18:38.000 Good luck.

01:18:38.000 Bye.

01:18:39.000 He doesn't care.

01:18:40.000 He doesn't believe in morals.

01:18:41.000 These things happen all the time.

01:18:42.000 People like this find themselves in powerful positions all the time.

01:18:45.000 And it's terrifying.

01:18:46.000 That's how we got to this place with Ukraine. 0.98

01:18:48.000 People like Victoria Nuland, who I think calling her an amoral nihilist is still probably too euphemistic to describe her, right? 0.88

01:18:54.000 But they don't care.

01:18:55.000 They give nothing— Demon?

01:18:56.000 Yeah, about human life.

01:18:57.000 Demonic?

01:18:58.000 It's always profit.

01:18:59.000 And all those same people who've been orchestrating coups around the world, whether it's people like Norm Eisen, Victoria Nuland, the playbooks that they drafted there, that's what they're now using.

01:19:08.000 I actually, I think there's a much larger conversation around morals, morality, where it comes from.

01:19:12.000 there actually is no difference between America's foreign policy and domestic policy.

01:19:16.000 I actually, I think there's a much larger conversation around morals, morality, where

01:19:22.000 it comes from. And I actually do think there's something worrying in secular individuals who

01:19:31.000 believe that morals don't exist or that rights don't exist.

01:19:34.000 It's funny because, you know, Bill Maher says things like, not just Bill Maher, but many

01:19:39.000 of these individuals will say the bible is the only thing keeping you from raping or

01:19:44.000 something like this It's like, no, it's the belief that there's intrinsic right and wrong and good and evil.

01:19:49.000 It's worrying to me that there are a lot of people who...

01:19:53.000 Who believe in their heart of hearts, there is nothing stopping them from being an evil person other than they've just decided not to do it.

01:19:59.000 And so that means there is another side of this coin.

01:20:03.000 Many, many people who have decided to do it, who truly believe there is no good or evil, and they can do whatever they want because the world is their playground, and we see this manifest in leftist and genocidal and authoritarian governments.

01:20:14.000 Utilitarian, too, because, like, how much is a human life worth?

01:20:18.000 I wonder if it's $40,000?

01:20:20.000 If you could imagine all the- It's more than that.

01:20:22.000 Eight billion people, what do you think?

01:20:24.000 Like $700,000?

01:20:24.000 But like the US government does this calculation, I'm sure.

01:20:27.000 They take the value of organs and the potential labor and they add it up and it's like, it might be like a million something.

01:20:33.000 And the cost of what they're going to take away from the growth of the person and the sustension of the system.

01:20:39.000 But people definitely have- Then there's like the hard prices.

01:20:41.000 There's like literal prices because we know in Libya there's a slave trade and things like that.

01:20:44.000 So these people like, I don't know if Victoria Nuland does the utilitarian calculation where she's like, well this many people will die, we will lose this many people, this much infrastructure will get blown up in 20 years, we'll be able to regrow and recoup this amount of value.

01:20:55.000 They do the utilitarian cost of like the value of a human life.

01:20:58.000 They like to start countries because they can rebuild them in the model that they want it to be.

01:21:03.000 Let's put it this way, you know Ian, someone has a You know, I don't know, a tumor on their body. 0.63

01:21:11.000 And they go to a surgeon and say, cut it off and kill it, right?

01:21:14.000 And so we know that a cancerous tumor is bad for your body. 0.97

01:21:19.000 It could kill you if it's malignant.

01:21:21.000 You go to a doctor, the doctor removes it.

01:21:23.000 This is the strategic, I don't care about these cells.

01:21:26.000 Single-celled organisms are life.

01:21:27.000 If we find single-celled organisms on an asteroid or on a planet, we're like, there's life on this planet.

01:21:31.000 We are multicellular organisms.

01:21:32.000 We care not for any single cell in our body.

01:21:35.000 They die and we say, I haven't thought twice about it.

01:21:38.000 This is how many of these ultra-elites think, and this is how Artificial General Intelligence is going to operate.

01:21:43.000 It's going to say, I don't think twice about the coal miner.

01:21:46.000 We just need to make sure that the coal mines are being mined.

01:21:48.000 So, how many skin cells, how many cells of your skin cells die every year?

01:21:53.000 No idea.

01:21:55.000 Now imagine a machine state of an artificial general intelligence running the world.

01:22:01.000 It's not going to care how many coal miners die, so long as the coal mining organ continues to exist. 0.99

01:22:05.000 As long as like a regular dude, I'm like, human life is invaluable, everyone counts, everything matters, we must protect at all costs, and then I'm like, ooh.

01:22:12.000 Then I'm trying to imagine what it would have been like if I was born into the war machine and I'm supposed to do the calculations of like, no, human life absolutely has a value and a cost.

01:22:19.000 They take away from systems and they add to systems.

01:22:21.000 Let's treat them like this, like a machine structure, like a CEO that has an income and they have to only have certain amount of employees if some of them have to be let go.

01:22:29.000 That's the hard, cold reality.

01:22:31.000 Sorry, bro.

01:22:32.000 And if I care too much, my whole system collapses.

01:22:34.000 So like, I try to get into that state of mind of like, well, what is a human life worth?

01:22:40.000 I haven't had to live that life, so I don't get joy out of it.

01:22:46.000 It hurts me to think of them dropping bombs on other countries and killing civilians and children, but there's calculations that add up to why they're doing it.

01:22:55.000 I want to jump to this next story with you guys.

01:22:57.000 Now, this is the Rotten Tomatoes for Am I Racist?

01:23:00.000 The Daily Wire and Matt Walsh's new film.

01:23:02.000 Now, I've talked about this quite a bit.

01:23:04.000 Because it's no secret, I am a huge fan of this film.

01:23:07.000 I am so impressed with how they pulled this off.

01:23:10.000 This story, and I'm really interested in bringing you guys in the conversation because I want to hear some other people's opinions about it.

01:23:16.000 You guys have not seen the film yet.

01:23:18.000 Take a look at this.

01:23:19.000 So if you go to Rotten Tomatoes, which is movie reviews, right?

01:23:24.000 You can see that it's got over 1,000 verified ratings, 99% hot.

01:23:30.000 The tomato meter, however, is grey.

01:23:33.000 There's nothing there.

01:23:35.000 Matt Walsh and the Daily Wire had a funny post where they said, certified grey.

01:23:37.000 Here's where it gets crazy.

01:23:39.000 When you look at the critics' reviews, it says there are zero.

01:23:43.000 When you click it, you can see there are eight.

01:23:45.000 I believe it is, there could be more.

01:23:46.000 We got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

01:23:49.000 There are now nine reviews.

01:23:51.000 There are nine reviews, only one's bad, and Jesse Gender, it's no surprise this person does not like Matt Walsh, but that's besides the point.

01:23:58.000 When you go to the front page of Rotten Tomatoes and scroll down at all their movies, and take a look at the box office top ten, look at this.

01:24:05.000 God's Not Dead, which is a religious film, gray.

01:24:08.000 Am I Racist?

01:24:09.000 Gray.

01:24:11.000 Reagan, The Killers Game, It Ends With Us, they're reviewed bad.

01:24:15.000 These other movies have gotten reviews.

01:24:17.000 Hollywood will not go near this movie.

01:24:20.000 The reviewers won't go near reviewing this movie.

01:24:23.000 There is a media blacklist on this film.

01:24:26.000 Am I racist?

01:24:27.000 Joe Rogan, on his show that just released today with Matt Walsh, said it was one of the funniest comedies he has seen in a very long time.

01:24:35.000 I think, you know, the reason I want to bring this up, we're winning the culture war.

01:24:40.000 This is proof.

01:24:42.000 Look at Beetlejuice.

01:24:43.000 Now, have you guys seen Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice?

01:24:46.000 No.

01:24:46.000 I thought it was okay.

01:24:47.000 I was like, there's like five stories jammed into one.

01:24:50.000 I'm like, it's whatever.

01:24:51.000 It's fun nostalgia to watch Beetlejuice come back.

01:24:53.000 I think they made a big mistake with Lydia.

01:24:55.000 In the first movie, Lydia is not scared of ghosts and she's like, I am strange and unusual.

01:25:00.000 In Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, she's like, I'm so terrified that Beetlejuice might come back.

01:25:03.000 And I'm like, why?

01:25:04.000 You know, she has PTSD.

01:25:05.000 She's taking pills. 1.00

01:25:06.000 It's stupid. 1.00

01:25:07.000 But, So I made a good point. 1.00

01:25:09.000 So I made a good point.

01:25:10.000 They have a disgusting pregnancy joke. 1.00

01:25:12.000 It's not politically correct.

01:25:14.000 There's no wokeness. 0.93

01:25:15.000 Lydia's not a girl boss. 1.00

01:25:17.000 And I watched one review where they said, I love this film because it's nostalgia bait and there's no politics in it. 0.95

01:25:24.000 They did not try to make it feminist or do any of this weird garbage. 0.96

01:25:27.000 They literally had Beetlejuice be a disgusting pervert like he always was, the way movies were supposed to be. 0.97

01:25:33.000 And I'm like, That movie is certified fresh. 0.71

01:25:36.000 Everybody seemed to love it.

01:25:37.000 It's got great reviews and ratings.

01:25:39.000 I think we're winning.

01:25:40.000 And I guess the depressed pill addiction is kind of like representative of modern culture in a way.

01:25:46.000 So maybe, as sad as it is to see Lydia go down that path, hopefully she kicks the pill addiction by the end of the movie. 0.98

01:25:51.000 I don't want to spoil it either.

01:25:51.000 I haven't seen it.

01:25:53.000 Hey, for reference... Have you seen it?

01:25:54.000 No.

01:25:55.000 I don't know if I will either.

01:25:57.000 For reference, Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Warner Brothers and NBCUniversal.

01:26:00.000 But it's not so—so, first of all, I would say this is absolutely rotten tomatoes, and it's evidenced by the fact that there are critics' reviews, they overwhelmingly rate it fresh, and they're still like, but we're not gonna certify it.

01:26:13.000 But then it's also, Matt Walsh posted this on his ex-account, when the Daily Wire's PR reached out to a bunch of different publications and entertainment websites saying, Here's an advanced screener for the film.

01:26:25.000 They either lied, saying they never got one, or they emailed back, ha ha ha ha ha, F you, no way, not gonna do it.

01:26:33.000 They did that to us when we released our music.

01:26:37.000 We had a press release saying, you know, Tim Pool, P Prada release, Only If We're Wanted.

01:26:41.000 And many of these outlets wrote back saying, F you, MAGA chuds, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:26:47.000 I'm going to say the same thing I said with Trump and the Teamsters earlier.

01:26:50.000 I think the non-endorsement's the endorsement.

01:26:51.000 Like, I don't care about these institutions at all.

01:26:54.000 I don't care about iTunes.

01:26:55.000 I don't care about Netflix, Rotten Tomatoes.

01:26:59.000 Reagan's 17%.

01:27:00.000 They're saying it's bad.

01:27:02.000 If it was bad, they'd say it was bad.

01:27:05.000 Just reject these places.

01:27:06.000 General question about Beetlejuice.

01:27:07.000 Beetlejuice, is it worth seeing?

01:27:10.000 I give it a C+.

01:27:11.000 Okay.

01:27:12.000 Yeah, so it's like, if you got time and you want to go see a movie on the weekends, it's, you know, it's fun.

01:27:16.000 It is fun to watch them go in the underworld.

01:27:18.000 What would you give Beetlejuice, the first one?

01:27:20.000 Oh, A+.

01:27:21.000 Oh yeah, it's a great movie.

01:27:22.000 The original Beetlejuice is a masterpiece.

01:27:24.000 What would you give the musical?

01:27:24.000 It really is.

01:27:26.000 I haven't seen it.

01:27:27.000 Is it live?

01:27:28.000 No, I haven't seen it.

01:27:29.000 There's a musical?

01:27:30.000 Yeah.

01:27:31.000 I mean, the original Beetlejuice is... I mean, let's go back to the 80s, right?

01:27:35.000 The movie is ridiculous. 0.57

01:27:38.000 There's a ghost that you say his name three times, and he comes to you, and he's a bio-exorcist who gets rid of people for ghosts. 0.88

01:27:46.000 Tim Burton's like, what if ghosts haunting a house want to get rid of the people who move in?

01:27:46.000 It was a funny idea.

01:27:50.000 That's fun and funny. 0.99

01:27:51.000 And Beetlejuice is a perverted, disgusting, you know, lecher. 0.97

01:27:54.000 And it's masterfully done.

01:27:58.000 Modern movies don't have any of this interesting, unique IP.

01:28:01.000 It's like they're making a, so they made a new kid's film, a Transformers 1 or whatever, and it's just generic as it could possibly be. 0.87

01:28:07.000 It's all the same boring garbage. 0.97

01:28:10.000 So what I will say of Am I Racist? 0.99

01:28:13.000 You know why it's gray?

01:28:14.000 I bet the critics did watch it and they laughed.

01:28:18.000 They laughed and they said, I can't write this up.

01:28:20.000 Because who are you convincing by saying it's bad?

01:28:23.000 I wonder if any are self-aware enough to say that they see themselves in it.

01:28:26.000 You know, as the quote-unquote villain of the movie.

01:28:30.000 But Matt, the issue is, there's no villains in the movie.

01:28:33.000 There's no preaching.

01:28:35.000 It's just a comedy film.

01:28:36.000 There's a Matt Walsh fight scene.

01:28:37.000 Is there not characters that are preaching certain type of agendas that you look at as a caricature?

01:28:41.000 They never say it's bad.

01:28:43.000 But you as an audience see it as a bad thing?

01:28:46.000 Or like, is it portrayed, maybe they don't portray it as a bad thing, but you know when you hear it that it's bad.

01:28:51.000 I think it's, so, I would say 50-50.

01:28:54.000 Yeah.

01:28:57.000 Right, so it's more of the absurdity where, like, one woman says, we need to talk to our kids about racism, and Matt Walsh says, I have a six-month-old daughter, is that too soon?

01:29:06.000 And she's like, no.

01:29:08.000 And it's just like, right.

01:29:09.000 It's absurd.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, it's just you're like, what?

01:29:13.000 And then, I mean, I don't want to spoil too much.

01:29:16.000 There's a lot in there, so I'm not spoiling a lot. 0.94

01:29:18.000 When the woman says that she's upset because her daughter gravitates toward white Disney princesses, and she has to let her know about white supremacy, and then Matt goes, well my white daughter likes Moana, and so it's a problem when she wants to dress like a brown or black princess, but then I don't want her to dress like a white one because then it's white supremacy, and he's not saying she's wrong, he's actually talking to her, but you're sitting there laughing your ass off because there's no answer to these things. 0.80

01:29:43.000 In a sense, I think it's fair to say they are painted bad because they make so much money, and it keeps showing you how much money they get to do these things.

01:29:50.000 But you're laughing at it!

01:29:51.000 I think another reason they don't like it is probably because it's the inverse of a Sacha Baron Cohen movie.

01:29:56.000 Whereas his movies would have targeted people that these critics typically don't like, politically for some reasons, or Bruno, you know, Borat stuff.

01:30:02.000 But this is the flip.

01:30:03.000 So it's attacking them to some degree.

01:30:05.000 And especially as we're so close to the election, there was a really funny article in the Hollywood Reporter last week.

01:30:10.000 I guess there's a new documentary out on Adam Kinzinger and the headline of it was like, this Kinzinger documentary could sway the election.

01:30:19.000 I kid you not.

01:30:20.000 And they do this like glowing profile on it.

01:30:23.000 I don't even know where it's airing, but it shows you they just, they're so out of touch.

01:30:27.000 Like you, you nailed it with the Teamsters Union being so disconnected, disjointed from the pulse of the American people.

01:30:34.000 I hate us.

01:30:36.000 I'm glad this movie's doing well and I'm glad he wore a wig that seems fake but it's still like that kind of person might wear a fake wig.

01:30:44.000 It gets longer.

01:30:46.000 That's so awesome.

01:30:48.000 I kind of make my own- I've been playing a lot of video games and now I've been streaming them and telling the story of the characters in the game as the game's progressing.

01:30:56.000 It's like I'm creating my own art because I haven't found any good movies to get lost in in the last, I don't know, seven or eight years.

01:31:04.000 I think it might have been like- It's Mad Max, Fury Road.

01:31:06.000 I think it might have been Rogan, but someone was talking about how we haven't actually had a comedy in a long time.

01:31:11.000 When was the last time you saw a comedy film?

01:31:13.000 Like, honest question, I'm not saying we haven't, I'm not saying they don't exist, I just, I genuinely am curious, when was the last time you watched like a real comedy?

01:31:19.000 Like in the theaters?

01:31:20.000 Yeah, and it was a big movie.

01:31:22.000 Remember in the 2000s we had Anchorman, we had Step Brothers, those Will Ferrell movies, we had... what else did we have?

01:31:29.000 A bunch of Sandler movies.

01:31:30.000 Zoolander!

01:31:32.000 I mean, it was all... Oh, Tropic Thunder.

01:31:34.000 Tropic Thunder, man!

01:31:35.000 When Tom Cruise is singing that Apple Bottom Jeans song, I'm laughing my ass off the whole time.

01:31:40.000 in blackface, it's incredible.

01:31:40.000 I mean, Robert Downey Jr.

01:31:42.000 I love Entropic Thunder when he's on the phone with the Vietnamese guys and the agent is screaming at him.

01:31:48.000 Dude, that movie was classic.

01:31:51.000 And now young people are finding Robert Downey Jr.

01:31:53.000 in blackface and they don't understand that was the point of the movie to criticize.

01:31:57.000 So, we had this whole era where there was just comedy after comedy after comedy coming out.

01:32:02.000 Honest question though.

01:32:05.000 I think they destroyed comedy.

01:32:07.000 I mean, there was one maybe five or six years ago.

01:32:09.000 I did like Chris Rock's movie, but that's not even a real comedy.

01:32:11.000 Well, it was a good movie.

01:32:12.000 Or even like the stand-up specials that they have nowadays on Netflix are literally so

01:32:18.000 atrocious and I feel like they've always feared laughter, right?

01:32:22.000 Mocking sort of the elite class, and I think that's why comedy is such sort of a touchy kind of expose.

01:32:28.000 Why so much of it is on YouTube now.

01:32:29.000 They can't go to a lot of these places.

01:32:31.000 So I guess the general idea was that you need to be offensive in comedy.

01:32:37.000 Like, comedy needs to broach the edges of what is acceptable to make people shocked or laugh.

01:32:43.000 It doesn't need to, but it certainly can.

01:32:46.000 It's like one of the only art forms that can.

01:32:48.000 I think it's probably the most effective weapon.

01:32:50.000 I know there's a bit of a distinction between just, like, lying about what your belief is on something, and I think it's the idea Preference falsification, I think that's something I remember for like 2016, I think it was a scholar like Timur Kuran had written this long book about how like, you know, before the Berlin Wall fell, everyone was like, oh, this is so great.

01:33:08.000 This is so great.

01:33:08.000 And then once it fell, they're like, actually, we hated this the whole entire time, right?

01:33:12.000 And it's like sort of using your position on a certain issue to sort of reflect your social standing or that you're, you know, you're a member in a good social class, and you're not going or, you know, bumping up against the regime.

01:33:24.000 And in some ways, I think the fact that they're not endorsing this does show that there still is, to some extent, a vestige of that preference falsification.

01:33:32.000 But I also think that that's why humor is such a powerful tool, right?

01:33:35.000 Because you can mock these institutions, these people.

01:33:37.000 You know, I think legacy is something that is so important to, like, the Anthony Fauci's of the world, the Francis Collins of the world, even the Victoria Nuland types.

01:33:46.000 And just the fact that, like, you can drag them.

01:33:48.000 And I think comedy is a Conduit is a vessel that is much more conducive to, I think, the mockery that these people, believe me, are long overdue and deserve, but I think it just lands better.

01:34:00.000 It's more palatable for the general populace than it is sitting people down, you know, reading through a 300-page report that Congress puts out about how DEI programs are bad for the country.

01:34:12.000 It's about messaging, and I think the right is usually really bad at messaging, right?

01:34:18.000 And I think that when we can package something, and I would say this is like one of the first movies where I'm actually like proud to be on the side of it, right?

01:34:25.000 It's not like as cringe as sometimes kind of right-wing culture stuff can be.

01:34:30.000 I think they don't want to let it in because it's a... I just went to Now in Theaters and knew, and I'm not sure there's any comedies.

01:34:39.000 You know?

01:34:41.000 Guess we need to make one.

01:34:42.000 I'm shooting one at the beginning of October.

01:34:44.000 I think some of them might be like passive comedies, but not overt comedy.

01:34:48.000 Like, there might be a comedy as a subcategory of the film.

01:34:50.000 Like, it is kind of funny.

01:34:52.000 But, I mean, they got Blazing Saddles in here.

01:34:55.000 That movie, that was the only R-rated movie I was allowed to watch as a kid.

01:34:58.000 Oh, here you go.

01:34:59.000 Am I a racist?

01:35:00.000 Uh, look.

01:35:03.000 The Matt Walsh fight scene will have you in pain.

01:35:07.000 It's so good.

01:35:08.000 Borat, I cried at the theater so much.

01:35:10.000 So many tears of laughter at that movie.

01:35:12.000 That was, that's like the funniest, maybe the funniest movie I ever saw.

01:35:14.000 That was a good one.

01:35:16.000 Yeah, and I didn't, like, want to say that about it.

01:35:19.000 I just laughed for so much of that movie because of the confusion of the people around him and the commitment to the character.

01:35:26.000 It was incredible.

01:35:27.000 I grew up loving Andy Kaufman, so seeing what Sacha Baron Cohen is doing is great, and it's very sad to see that he's been also brainwashed by people.

01:35:35.000 You know, he was, years ago, talking about misinformation on the internet.

01:35:38.000 Pretty sad.

01:35:40.000 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is a comedy, but I don't think it's a subcategory comedy.

01:35:48.000 What genre would you describe Beetlejuice Beetlejuice as?

01:35:51.000 I thought it was like a horror comedy.

01:35:53.000 Horror comedy.

01:35:53.000 Yeah.

01:35:54.000 It's not really scary in any way.

01:35:56.000 Comedy horror, yeah.

01:35:56.000 It's definitely funny.

01:35:58.000 Comedy horror?

01:35:59.000 Like a subcategory?

01:36:00.000 Not scary.

01:36:00.000 There's a few, like, scary.

01:36:01.000 Like the guy with the shrunken head.

01:36:02.000 If you're a kid and you saw that, you'd be like, ahh!

01:36:05.000 These are the comedies that they say are now in theaters.

01:36:08.000 Blazing Saddles, of course, is a comedy.

01:36:10.000 That's a re-release.

01:36:11.000 A very old movie. 0.99

01:36:11.000 My Old Ass. 0.99

01:36:16.000 I mean I guess about a donkey it's just two women looking at each other I guess I don't know it was about donkey I might laugh zombie wedding that was a comedy you know I'm shooting a short film at the end of the month so it's gonna be extreme I read the script and it's hilarious I'm just visualizing as an actor you go and you visualize the shoot over and over and over like I see so many aspects of how it's gonna be and then when you do it you just It just happens because you're already prepared. 0.97

01:36:40.000 Ant-Man was subcategory comedy with Paul Rudd because Paul Rudd's a genius.

01:36:44.000 He's fantastic.

01:36:46.000 The second Ant-Man or whatever is kind of weird but the first one where he's like under house arrest and then he's like they're doing these heists and it's a superhero movie but there's a lot of jokes in it and he's funny.

01:36:55.000 There's comedy in that.

01:36:56.000 I don't know.

01:36:57.000 I'm just saying like we had that comedy era with Yeah, you know.

01:37:02.000 It ended with the hangover, maybe.

01:37:04.000 Hangover 3?

01:37:04.000 Mike Myers, he contributed a lot to that.

01:37:07.000 Yeah, he predates the 90s.

01:37:09.000 You know what bums me out is they only did 3 Austin Powers.

01:37:12.000 They could have made 800 of those movies, I swear.

01:37:15.000 Same with Wayne's World, they could have done five of those.

01:37:17.000 Him and Garth, those two guys together, Dana Carvey and Mike Myers, they were- Oh, they're gonna do a part three- Where they're 70?

01:37:22.000 Yep.

01:37:22.000 The one where they're 70 years old?

01:37:26.000 Yep.

01:37:26.000 That's funny.

01:37:27.000 Like, they did Bill and Ted.

01:37:28.000 I just hope they don't bring the kids in.

01:37:30.000 That's the Bill and Ted mistake, is they brought the daughters of Bill and Ted as the main characters.

01:37:34.000 Like, what the hell?

01:37:35.000 You know what's really funny is I was reading about the Beetlejuice sequel, the original, and it was gonna be a couple years later, it was gonna be like 1992, and they wanted to do Beetlejuice Goes to Hawaii, and then, like, nobody wanted to do it, and then this was a quote from Kevin Smith, where like, well you direct it, and he's like, didn't we say everything that needed to be said in the first one?

01:37:52.000 Why does it need to go somewhere tropical now?

01:37:54.000 And so nobody wanted to get on it.

01:37:56.000 They were actually trying to do a sequel the entire time since the first one came out and it kept getting shoved back until finally they got bored and old, I guess, and said, we'll do it now.

01:38:04.000 That was such a thing in the nineties with like giant movies that were huge.

01:38:07.000 And then they had a hundred VHS tapes that no one watched for over the next 10 years, like Air Bud.

01:38:12.000 There's gotta be like a hundred of those out.

01:38:14.000 I wasn't alive in the nineties.

01:38:17.000 That's when civilization ended.

01:38:19.000 The first movie I saw was Elf.

01:38:19.000 I'm sorry.

01:38:23.000 Oh, that's a good one.

01:38:24.000 Yeah.

01:38:25.000 That's a good one.

01:38:25.000 I don't know if that's a crazy movie you saw or a comedy.

01:38:27.000 First movie I saw.

01:38:28.000 That's not a comedy or a movie.

01:38:30.000 The first movie I ever saw.

01:38:31.000 That's a good movie.

01:38:32.000 That's a great movie.

01:38:32.000 Yeah.

01:38:34.000 First movie I saw in the theaters was American Tail.

01:38:36.000 Or Eiffel Goes West, whichever.

01:38:37.000 Yeah, Eiffel Goes West.

01:38:38.000 Great movie.

01:38:39.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats, everybody, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with all of your friends.

01:38:46.000 Annoyingly, go to them and say, have you watched yet?

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01:38:49.000 I'm kidding, don't do that, but recommend the show.

01:38:51.000 And go to TimCast.com, click join us, or click sign up.

01:38:55.000 To become a member so that we can keep doing this show and our morning show and all of the awesome stuff that we do because we really do need your support as members.

01:39:03.000 You guys make this all happen.

01:39:04.000 If it were not for you, we would not be here right now.

01:39:06.000 I don't know what we'd be doing.

01:39:07.000 I'd probably be in a van driving around the country and I'd do my morning show.

01:39:11.000 You know, that's fairly independent, but IRL, travel costs, all these things, we rely on you guys as members to make it possible.

01:39:18.000 And then as an aside too, I had this idea, maybe we do it this summer or next spring or something where we go on tour, and we bring on every Friday one of our recurring callers as our guest on the show.

01:39:30.000 That's sick.

01:39:30.000 Because we've got a bunch of people calling frequently, and they're articulate, they're intelligent, they host shows on the Discord server, and I was like...

01:39:36.000 We should do that or we should do member week.

01:39:39.000 I love that.

01:39:39.000 Where for like one whole week, all of the guests are members or callers.

01:39:42.000 Populist, yeah.

01:39:44.000 Right?

01:39:45.000 I mean, some of these people are geniuses, you know, they call in and they tell us, they correct us on things and they bring up things we never thought about.

01:39:52.000 And so that's what makes it really great.

01:39:53.000 I'll tell you, this morning on my morning live show, Two breaking news stories.

01:39:57.000 The report about the explosives found at the Trump rally, which turned out to be bunk, and the walkie-talkies exploding.

01:40:02.000 And people are pointing out that it's, like, crowdsourced pay for breaking news.

01:40:06.000 And I'm like, imagine if you're watching Hannity, and you could send him five bucks and be like, hey, Hannity, something just happened.

01:40:11.000 And he'd be like, hey, you know, PPPooPoo420 just told me this thing's happening. 0.97

01:40:15.000 Like, we literally do that!

01:40:16.000 That's cool.

01:40:17.000 He'd be like, are my advertisers allowed to say that?

01:40:18.000 Am I allowed to say this right now?

01:40:20.000 Yeah, that's the other thing.

01:40:20.000 Our advertisers are like, whatever, you know.

01:40:22.000 We read the ad at the beginning of the show.

01:40:23.000 They're cool.

01:40:24.000 Alright, we're gonna read your superchats.

01:40:25.000 Let's go.

01:40:27.000 David Wilkin says, something got one of my roosters today.

01:40:30.000 Sometime afternoon, so raise a glass to Nugget the rooster who really wasn't good for much but was funny to watch.

01:40:36.000 Shoutout Nugget.

01:40:37.000 I don't remember the name of the rooster who kept escaping.

01:40:40.000 Do you guys remember his name?

01:40:42.000 The audience might.

01:40:42.000 No.

01:40:43.000 Well, he got eaten one day.

01:40:45.000 That's what he gets.

01:40:46.000 A fox got him.

01:40:47.000 If he'd just stay in prison like the rest of them.

01:40:49.000 We culled a bunch of the roosters to stay in prison. 0.99

01:40:52.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:40:53.000 We had 13 roosters and one kept jumping out and walking around the yard.

01:40:58.000 And we were impressed by it and said, this rooster gets to live.

01:41:01.000 The rest became food and turned into chili and roast rooster.

01:41:05.000 And then we'd see him.

01:41:07.000 He'd be walking around the yard and then we'd push it and scuttle him back and open the fence and put him back in the little area.

01:41:12.000 Then one day we came outside and it was a trail of feathers and he was gone.

01:41:16.000 Free at last.

01:41:16.000 It's sad.

01:41:17.000 Free at last.

01:41:18.000 True freedom.

01:41:19.000 You want to be chilly like the rest of them.

01:41:20.000 Hey, you know, but here's a question.

01:41:22.000 If a gigantic alien kept, whenever you went outside, he grabbed you and put you back in the house, you'd want to go outside.

01:41:29.000 And the alien will look at you and be like, Bears!

01:41:31.000 You'd be like, I can handle it.

01:41:33.000 And if the bear comes, I'd rather be free to live my life, right?

01:41:37.000 Yeah, sometimes it's just people are wired different.

01:41:40.000 So I respect the rooster.

01:41:42.000 I forgot his name.

01:41:43.000 I don't know.

01:41:44.000 Mr. Muttonchops. 0.99

01:41:45.000 Mr. Muttonchops. 0.99

01:41:45.000 That's him. 0.99

01:41:46.000 Wow.

01:41:47.000 It's so funny that someone else knew that and I forgot his name.

01:41:49.000 That's incredible.

01:41:49.000 Cheryl Revelle in the chat says it was Muttonchops.

01:41:52.000 Shout out to Muttonchops. 1.00

01:41:55.000 I just think it's funny that I forgot his name and they had to remind me.

01:41:57.000 Yeah, because he had mutton chops going on the side of his face.

01:42:00.000 Does anyone know what got him?

01:42:02.000 There was a fox that lives in the back.

01:42:02.000 A fox.

01:42:03.000 We watch him walking around all the time.

01:42:05.000 It was a mama fox. 0.96

01:42:06.000 We watch her walking around all the time.

01:42:08.000 You know, and maybe she was feeding her babies, and I can respect that.

01:42:11.000 You know, Mr. Muttonchops was free. 0.89

01:42:12.000 He was free indeed.

01:42:14.000 Alright.

01:42:15.000 We'll grab some more.

01:42:16.000 Noah Sanders says, 24-month sub on YouTube with many more to come.

01:42:20.000 Glad I could be of assistance this morning.

01:42:21.000 Keep up the hard work and we'll keep sending in breaking news.

01:42:24.000 Bless.

01:42:25.000 Appreciate it.

01:42:26.000 Noah, you sent in the walkie-talkies one, right?

01:42:28.000 Or was... I think it was the walkie-talkies one, wasn't it?

01:42:31.000 That's crazy.

01:42:32.000 I'm like in the middle of reading this thing and I see the super chat and I'm like, what?

01:42:35.000 Israel blew up more? 0.94

01:42:36.000 Oh man.

01:42:39.000 Alright, Revenz Padawan says Anakin eliminated the Mace Windu threat.

01:42:43.000 Palpatine killed Mace in cold blood, beginning his empirical reign with murder like all dictators do.

01:42:49.000 I reject this.

01:42:51.000 That is not what happened.

01:42:52.000 We all saw the movie.

01:42:53.000 That is rebel propaganda.

01:42:55.000 Mace Windu brought armed dudes into Palpatine's office.

01:43:00.000 Threatening him.

01:43:01.000 Palpatine says so, it's treason then, and is forced to defend himself from three assailants as the duly elected Chancellor of the Republic.

01:43:10.000 Then, Anakin rushes in and sees Mace Windu drawing a lightsaber intent on killing the duly elected Chancellor.

01:43:18.000 The Chancellor defends himself with force lightning from a guy who's pointing a weapon at him.

01:43:24.000 The lightning reflects back at the Emperor, burning him, and he says, please, Anakin, I'm too weak!

01:43:30.000 Anakin doesn't kill Mace Windu.

01:43:33.000 He removes the arm to stop Mace Windu from trying to kill the Emperor.

01:43:38.000 The Emperor, in self-defense, blasts Mace Windu out the window.

01:43:44.000 If there was a person who was trying to kill you, right in front of you, as you're laying on the ground, Now, we don't know that the Emperor was intending on killing him with that force lightning blast.

01:43:54.000 He just knocked him out the window.

01:43:56.000 And Mace survived, by the way.

01:43:58.000 Okay, excessive force because the threat was disarmed, literally.

01:44:03.000 He didn't need to kill him.

01:44:04.000 No, no, no, you're wrong.

01:44:05.000 Jedi can use telekinesis.

01:44:06.000 I guess that's true.

01:44:07.000 He can force push and pull, and he still has one arm and he's standing right in front of you.

01:44:10.000 If the Emperor did not use force lightning, then Windu could have just shoved him right out the window with a force push.

01:44:17.000 Yep.

01:44:18.000 The Emperor did not instigate the fight.

01:44:20.000 At no point in any of the films do you see the Emperor do anything wrong.

01:44:23.000 Did Mace have the authority of the Jedi Council while he was in there?

01:44:26.000 He was the head of the Council.

01:44:27.000 So he kind of... Oh, he was the head of the Council.

01:44:29.000 The Jedi Council has no right to go and murder a politician.

01:44:33.000 The Jedi basically are like, we don't like the way you do politics and the power you've accrued through political means. 0.94

01:44:40.000 I'm like, whoa, so the Chancellor convinced people to give him authority and power and he's used it?

01:44:45.000 What has he done wrong?

01:44:47.000 The trade separatists wanted to separate from the Republic.

01:44:50.000 They did not want to be a part of it.

01:44:52.000 I'm telling you, I don't, I can't, I understand that Darth Vader, Anakin, goes and kills all the kids in the movie, and that can be reasonably assumed was the intention of the Emperor.

01:45:01.000 My point is there is no direct scene where the Emperor is like, I'm now gonna do something evil.

01:45:05.000 At least in the original, in the original film you never even see the Emperor until the last, until Return of the Jedi, and then in the, in the prequels, it's, you don't see, you see the Emperor only sort of in passing, orchestrating political means, soft power, without the use of force.

01:45:18.000 I gotta say, you know.

01:45:20.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:45:26.000 Danny Miller says, Tim, years ago, Canada arrested China's Huawei CEO on behalf of the USA, batting them from out 5G networks.

01:45:34.000 Did we prevent our own cell attack?

01:45:36.000 Could you imagine if we get like a bunch of devices sent from China and then one day they all blew up?

01:45:41.000 Yes, I can imagine.

01:45:42.000 That's terrifying, isn't it?

01:45:43.000 Yeah.

01:45:44.000 Jeez.

01:45:46.000 Alright, Grafty says, give the lonely like button a smack on the shoulder. 0.96

01:45:49.000 Buck, buck, buck.

01:45:50.000 Smash that like button, ladies and gentlemen.

01:45:53.000 Redwing Blackbird says, I'm in SEIU.

01:45:57.000 They asked me for money and to volunteer time to call people for Harris.

01:46:00.000 I had to say no because I already made donations to Trump.

01:46:04.000 I've been in, um, what have I been in?

01:46:06.000 Two unions?

01:46:08.000 I think I've been in two unions.

01:46:08.000 Is it two?

01:46:10.000 And they were miserable.

01:46:12.000 I was offended by them, they mistreated me, they made my job worse, they hindered my ability to do these jobs, and I stand by it.

01:46:20.000 I was in one, in SAG, but I wasn't able to do non-union work.

01:46:25.000 That was the downside of it.

01:46:26.000 But the upside was I got paid crazy and they always took care of me.

01:46:30.000 I don't know that SAG even matters anymore these days.

01:46:32.000 I don't think so.

01:46:33.000 Not with the web.

01:46:33.000 Exactly.

01:46:34.000 A lot of people are doing independent stuff, and so it's just like, we don't need to be a part of your network.

01:46:39.000 When we started the first multi-channel marketing network, Maker Studios, the whole point was to create a web actors guild.

01:46:45.000 And had I thought about the time, I would have called it WAG.

01:46:47.000 But I was tired of all these internet creators getting screwed and being at the behest of, like, YouTube, deciding when they're going to get paid, how much they're going to get paid.

01:46:54.000 Now the advertisers get to control the entertainer.

01:46:56.000 No, no, no, no.

01:46:57.000 We need to unionize across the web to make sure that we all... I remember when they tried doing the YouTube union.

01:47:02.000 It's better to put it in people's hands.

01:47:04.000 The Slingshot Channel guy wanted to create a union of YouTubers to tell YouTube, you know, hey, you can't do these things to us.

01:47:10.000 I was 100% against it.

01:47:12.000 I was... because I'll tell you what's going to happen.

01:47:16.000 I made sure to tell my people over at YouTube, I don't have nothing to do with none of that union stuff.

01:47:20.000 Because what's going to happen is, YouTube's going to be like, you don't work for us.

01:47:26.000 We have an advertising contract with you.

01:47:28.000 If you want to form a union, we will terminate your partnership access because all that is, is an ad sales contract.

01:47:34.000 Yeah, Real Union would be like really popular creators across all platforms coming together and deciding, we're going to use a different platform that's purely open source, free software.

01:47:44.000 Unless you open up your code, we're done with your program.

01:47:46.000 And then you know what YouTube would do?

01:47:47.000 They'd say... They'd shut them off their network.

01:47:50.000 That's absolutely fine.

01:47:50.000 No, they'd say...

01:47:52.000 We have no obligation to promote you in the algorithm.

01:47:55.000 Tomorrow, we're going to find a very similar channel to yours, put it on the front page, they'll get three million subscribers overnight, and no one will ever watch you again.

01:48:02.000 But the real union would be, then that person would leave, like, a lot of real, like, where the influence truly lies in the hand of the creator.

01:48:09.000 That's where, that's the only way a union would function.

01:48:11.000 I don't think, YouTube may have been in the position in 2009

01:48:15.000 when they were very young, a couple years old.

01:48:18.000 But by 2015, 16, when these conversations started happening, 17 and 18, YouTube was just like,

01:48:25.000 dude, we could delete all of the biggest channels right now and the viewers aren't going anywhere.

01:48:32.000 But I do think YouTube is not solvent.

01:48:34.000 I don't know, I haven't seen their books, but I think they're being subsidized by Google.

01:48:37.000 Yes.

01:48:38.000 That's my understanding too.

01:48:39.000 And so, uh, the expense of running these, this is, I gotta be honest, like, this show would not be possible by any traditional means without YouTube allowing us to livestream for free.

01:48:51.000 It's so valuable.

01:48:53.000 Does this show stream at 1440, or is it all 1080?

01:48:53.000 Like, what is it, 2160?

01:48:57.000 I think we stream—we might stream at 1080.

01:48:59.000 Two hours at 1080?

01:49:00.000 What is that?

01:49:00.000 Yeah, 1080.

01:49:01.000 I don't know how many tens— Oh, bro, let me just tell you right now, we do 8 kilobits per second.

01:49:05.000 I'm sorry, 8,000.

01:49:06.000 We do 8 megabits per second.

01:49:08.000 8 megabits per second times 50,000 concurrent viewers tonight.

01:49:13.000 So, let's do the average.

01:49:15.000 That cost is insane, and it's all free for the average person to just do these things.

01:49:21.000 It's ridiculously expensive.

01:49:22.000 So when we do the members-only show, it's really expensive.

01:49:26.000 That's why I always tell people, like, we need you to be members.

01:49:28.000 Hey, if we did what most people did, and a lot of people will do this thing where they're like, a bonus thing for members, and they'll make an unlisted video on YouTube that anyone can share, people will sign up.

01:49:39.000 We do a paywalled, members-only, rumble-based stream that we have to pay for on the backend for the website, the server space, the bandwidth transfer, and it costs a lot of money.

01:49:50.000 Does YouTube do private video integration with Discord, where you can subscribe to someone's Discord channel and they get access to private YouTube videos?

01:49:56.000 I have no idea.

01:49:57.000 They should.

01:49:57.000 You should do that, guys, if you're not... Yeah.

01:50:00.000 So, video delivery is expensive.

01:50:03.000 Very, very, very expensive.

01:50:05.000 I remember in the early days of livestreaming, When, uh, like with Ustream and livestream and all that, you're talking about wanting to do a livestream for an event for a couple hours, it was like $20,000.

01:50:16.000 Now, it's gotten cheaper because the protocols have been upgraded, the data use requirements have been lower, the data transmission has become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, so don't get me wrong, it does get cheaper and cheaper.

01:50:26.000 I remember when there was this big upgrade in the streaming protocol, because we used to track all this stuff hardcore 10 years ago, and there was this one day where it was like, this is it.

01:50:35.000 The day that mobile becomes viable because the new codec got released, and now the data requirements are substantially lower for clearer video.

01:50:43.000 When I first started live streaming through mobile, the videos were like 188p.

01:50:47.000 The original iPhone.

01:50:49.000 I was like, I can record and upload a video anywhere.

01:50:51.000 Yeah, right.

01:50:52.000 It would take like eight hours.

01:50:54.000 It was 144 on Android.

01:50:56.000 It was 480 on iPhone.

01:50:59.000 And so, those were the early days.

01:51:01.000 Yeah.

01:51:02.000 It was free.

01:51:03.000 All the data was free, too, at that time.

01:51:04.000 Because Apple didn't know what they were doing.

01:51:06.000 They were like, yeah, as much data as you need.

01:51:07.000 Yikes.

01:51:08.000 Not when I was streaming.

01:51:10.000 It was rough.

01:51:12.000 Like 11, 2011?

01:51:13.000 Things started to change around that.

01:51:14.000 Yeah, 2011 is like, I think I was using, AT&T didn't have unlimited.

01:51:21.000 I literally had to pay like 10 bucks a gig.

01:51:24.000 And so I'm tracking my gigabyte usage every month, and it was like thousands upon thousands of dollars for the live streams.

01:51:29.000 And that's only for upload.

01:51:31.000 I wasn't, the downloads were all free.

01:51:33.000 Meaning the people watching, I didn't pay for that.

01:51:35.000 That was, you know, live stream and Ustream paying.

01:51:37.000 Wow.

01:51:38.000 40 grand or whatever.

01:51:39.000 All said, that's why I'm not, I don't, I'm not hostile towards YouTube in any manner.

01:51:44.000 I don't want to unionize and screw, like, it's amazing service.

01:51:48.000 I'm concerned with government co-option of like Alphabet and spying and all that crap and proprietary software getting transferred to the hands of the next company that comes in and buys it.

01:51:56.000 So we got to be careful about that stuff, but it's cool service.

01:51:58.000 Ryan Sargent says, Tim, I voted for Obama.

01:52:01.000 I grew up, had kids, I could barely afford a home for us, and you are the one liberal voice that is actually making sense.

01:52:06.000 Thank you for teaching me how to talk to libtards. 1.00

01:52:09.000 I have converted six to Trump.

01:52:11.000 All right, I don't know, you know, I just, my thing is, you know, I obviously have my moral worldview and my positions.

01:52:19.000 I just think for this show, the one thing that matters is that the underlying news stories we read are correct.

01:52:24.000 And then we can opine on whatever you want.

01:52:24.000 That's it.

01:52:26.000 So if a liberal wants to come in here and say, yeah, I don't care for that, you know, Donald Trump's plan on abortion I disagree with because I'm pro-choice or whatever, I'd be like, okay, that's fine.

01:52:34.000 You know, as long as we agree, Trump didn't say Nazis were very fine people.

01:52:39.000 But you get all these liberals who are like, Trump called Nazis very fine people.

01:52:42.000 I'm like, well, that's not correct.

01:52:43.000 If you want to come in and say, no, that's not true.

01:52:46.000 That's a lie.

01:52:46.000 They lie about that.

01:52:47.000 But I don't like Trump for this reason or that reason.

01:52:49.000 I'd say, okay, I respect that.

01:52:51.000 You don't have to like Trump.

01:52:52.000 Just tell the truth.

01:52:54.000 Tell the truth, my friends.

01:52:56.000 GTA Nation says, legal immigrant from Brazil.

01:52:59.000 Since the 90s, son of a former Brazilian diplomat.

01:53:02.000 Had to look you guys up tonight.

01:53:03.000 YouTube would not recommend you guys like usual on my feed.

01:53:06.000 Hannah's hair is gorgeous.

01:53:06.000 P.S.

01:53:08.000 Is she single?

01:53:09.000 Asking for a friend.

01:53:09.000 Haha, it's Hannah Clare.

01:53:11.000 You've already lost your chance by using the wrong name.

01:53:15.000 It's a double name.

01:53:18.000 Okay, what do we have here?

01:53:21.000 Yeah, he's not.

01:53:22.000 I don't know.

01:53:22.000 Whatever.

01:53:22.000 You know, it is what it is.

01:53:23.000 the person who attacked Paul Pelosi was on the right in an unhinged rant on

01:53:27.000 Piers Morgan's show. Yeah, he's not. I don't know. Whatever.

01:53:32.000 You know, it's what Paul Pelosi did. It's whatever he wants, I guess. All right.

01:53:38.000 Eric Burton says, Tim, did you see the poll?

01:53:39.000 28% of Democrats think the US would be better off if Trump was unalived and

01:53:45.000 24% were unsure. It's creepy.

01:53:50.000 He's like, Whoopi Goldberg was like, stop with the both sides!

01:53:53.000 It's only one side!

01:53:54.000 And I'm like, yours?

01:53:56.000 I mean, it's not like, they tried to kill Trump twice.

01:53:59.000 Technically three times.

01:54:00.000 Remember back in 2016, I feel like it was peak culture war where the left was always like, speech is violence.

01:54:07.000 Speech is violence.

01:54:08.000 It's like, that wasn't a warning.

01:54:10.000 It was a, it was a call to action.

01:54:12.000 Real violence is not violence.

01:54:13.000 Yeah.

01:54:14.000 Yeah.

01:54:15.000 Insane.

01:54:16.000 Victor Rodriguez says, Hi Tim, love the show.

01:54:18.000 What's your thought on why Polly Market is favoring Kamala for the win?

01:54:21.000 Could Dems be pouring money into the betting market?

01:54:23.000 No, I don't think it's necessary.

01:54:24.000 I think the betting markets are based on wisdom of the crowd.

01:54:27.000 So if the average person is looking at the polls, they're not thinking that, look, the people betting on this stuff are not politicos like us.

01:54:34.000 They're regular people who pull up the polls, see Kamala's favored to win and think, I got an EV plus bet.

01:54:39.000 I bet a dollar on Kamala when she's polling at 50, 40, you know, 53% or whatever, I'm probably going to win money. 0.95

01:54:45.000 But I'm pretty sure the betting market's favorite is Hillary Clinton. 0.96

01:54:47.000 It is what it is.

01:54:47.000 You know.

01:54:49.000 Here's hoping.

01:54:49.000 Here's seriously hoping.

01:54:50.000 But you know what?

01:54:53.000 Here's what it is.

01:54:55.000 Determined Beaver says, as a UAW worker in a swing state, I've heard the majority of

01:55:00.000 my plant and coworkers saying they will vote Trump this time.

01:55:04.000 Here's hoping.

01:55:05.000 Here's seriously hoping.

01:55:07.000 But you know what?

01:55:08.000 In any event, El Salvador sounds pretty great.

01:55:11.000 Anyway.

01:55:12.000 Roland Deschain says, Tim, because of you I left the left in 2018.

01:55:17.000 Also, I sent Ian a message on X about my MTG collection, six power nine and dozens of duels.

01:55:22.000 I started playing during revised.

01:55:24.000 Can anybody tell what that is right there?

01:55:26.000 Oh, you can tell what that is.

01:55:28.000 Anybody who knows anything knows what I'm pointing to right there.

01:55:30.000 This right here, look at that.

01:55:33.000 If you're watching live, I'm pointing to a card.

01:55:35.000 You guys can enlighten everybody else as to what that card is.

01:55:39.000 You know what I should do?

01:55:40.000 I should buy a fake, a proxy of a Black Lotus and just put it behind me so people think it's real.

01:55:44.000 That's a real collection right there.

01:55:44.000 Nah, I wouldn't do that.

01:55:46.000 You got a bunch of dual lands.

01:55:48.000 And then, uh, that card.

01:55:50.000 Let's see if, uh, I'm pretty sure people are going to, uh, know immediately.

01:55:54.000 And now they're all making fun of me because I got allergies.

01:55:57.000 I'm itching my nose.

01:55:58.000 Hey! 0.99

01:55:59.000 Instead of putting Coke nose in the chat.

01:56:01.000 Because I'm itching my nose.

01:56:02.000 No, I'm drinking Starbucks.

01:56:05.000 That's why I'm wired.

01:56:07.000 And my nose itches because I get allergies in the fall.

01:56:10.000 That's right.

01:56:10.000 That's amazing.

01:56:11.000 Did anybody name the card?

01:56:13.000 That's a nerd card, Tim?

01:56:17.000 What are you talking about?

01:56:18.000 The card?

01:56:19.000 Yeah.

01:56:20.000 There's a bunch of cards.

01:56:22.000 We do have a winner.

01:56:24.000 Robert Huberger says Ancestral Recall.

01:56:27.000 Ancestral Recall LMAO.

01:56:30.000 Do you guys know what that is?

01:56:31.000 It's called the Power Nine.

01:56:33.000 It's one, one of nine cards in Magic the Gathering.

01:56:36.000 It is particularly, particularly powerful.

01:56:39.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:56:41.000 Let's see, let's see what we got here.

01:56:43.000 James Jones says, me, what is AI, Tim?

01:56:45.000 Whatever computers can't do today.

01:56:48.000 Mr. Battalion says, what we have today is virtual intelligence, not AI.

01:56:51.000 It's not intelligence.

01:56:53.000 Artificial intelligence typically referred to computer programs that could do things that humans could do.

01:56:59.000 That's what intelligence was referenced to.

01:57:01.000 Humans can't procedurally generate images, but I guess the idea is I could ask you to draw a picture of Kamala doing a backflip.

01:57:06.000 It wouldn't be realistic.

01:57:06.000 You could.

01:57:08.000 Having computer programs analyze data, you know, they look at a billion pictures, look at all the words attached to those pictures, and then can figure out when you say, Kamala Harris giving a high five, it can combine high five and Kamala.

01:57:21.000 The funny thing is, If you ask Mid Journey to make an image and give it no prompt, it'll make hot air balloons.

01:57:28.000 Don't know why.

01:57:30.000 And in Suno, the song generation AI, if you tell it to write a song but don't give it a lyric prompt, it'll sing about city streets and neon lights.

01:57:41.000 And I think the reason for this is...

01:57:44.000 If you don't give a prompt, it makes hot air balloons, because there are a ton of photographs of hot air balloons with no tags on them.

01:57:51.000 It's almost like a screensaver.

01:57:53.000 I think it was in the early days of Windows and all that, they had a whole bunch of those hot air balloon photos that were never labeled, and so the early data sets they probably started collecting, there's no description of what they are.

01:58:04.000 Imagine if it just made that Microsoft Hill.

01:58:06.000 Yeah, that'd be crazy.

01:58:07.000 That'd be crazy.

01:58:08.000 But it's funny because...

01:58:10.000 Suno, S-U-N-O, it's a really great program.

01:58:13.000 Sometimes you get really great songs.

01:58:15.000 And it's always just like the city streets and the neon lights.

01:58:19.000 That must be the bulk of music, just people talking about city streets.

01:58:22.000 Like a weekend song.

01:58:25.000 Tear says, Tim doesn't know WTF he's talking about on AI.

01:58:25.000 Yep.

01:58:29.000 It's ridiculous.

01:58:30.000 AI is literally tree search tabulation or stochastic prediction.

01:58:33.000 It's a subset of machine learning.

01:58:35.000 Oh man, look, you should be nice about it because you are wrong.

01:58:40.000 You know, artificial intelligence historically was used to define, when the term is coined, it's a reference to human intelligence, we define intelligence in a specific way, and artificial meaning it was created.

01:58:53.000 So this typically was a reference to looking at a robot and saying, what is your name?

01:58:56.000 And the robot going, my name is John.

01:58:58.000 I am an artificial intelligence.

01:59:00.000 When were you created, John?

01:59:02.000 Tough question.

01:59:03.000 I don't have memory from when that was, and you're like, wow, this is like a person.

01:59:06.000 Artificial intelligence.

01:59:07.000 And the question was, was it really intelligent, or was it just a robot program?

01:59:12.000 Dr. Spezo, do you guys know what that is?

01:59:14.000 In the early 90s, it was a computer program for DOS, where it would use the Sound Blaster sound card to talk like this.

01:59:22.000 And it only had like 10 answers.

01:59:25.000 So you could talk to it, but was it intelligent?

01:59:27.000 It was not.

01:59:28.000 It could not imagine, conceptualize, or formulate anything.

01:59:31.000 So, uh, if you Google it...

01:59:33.000 You get a bunch of definitions.

01:59:35.000 AI refers to computer systems capable of performing complex tasks that historically only a human could do.

01:59:40.000 We are now referring to that as AGI, artificial general intelligence, because people have started to refer to everything as artificial intelligence.

01:59:48.000 But I don't understand what is intelligent about being able to make a picture of Kamala doing a backflip.

01:59:53.000 It's not explaining to you anything about it.

01:59:55.000 It's just literally compiling, it's an algorithm that compiles components together.

02:00:00.000 If it could, you know, I understand when you talk to chat GPT and it can tell you facts and search things, but that's like a search engine algorithm.

02:00:06.000 Is it just generally, then, the point is that there's really no specific type of code that's AI?

02:00:14.000 Like, is that a- Is true in artificial intelligence.

02:00:14.000 AGI.

02:00:17.000 Is there like a cutoff where you're like, oh, they added this thing, now it's AGI, but without that thing it's not?

02:00:21.000 Yes.

02:00:22.000 What's that segment?

02:00:22.000 What's the addition?

02:00:24.000 Well, I would argue it's conceptualization.

02:00:27.000 That is, a human being might go, you know, I was looking up at the stars today and I started to wonder about life on other planets.

02:00:34.000 Considering what we know about this or otherwise, do you think it's possible that life on other planets could travel interdimensionally?

02:00:38.000 AI doesn't do that.

02:00:40.000 Grok will not do that.

02:00:41.000 Grok will not prompt you and talk about how it was wondering for no reason.

02:00:46.000 It's not going to conceptualize or imagine.

02:00:48.000 It's just going to spit back at you some amalgam of what we already told it.

02:00:52.000 So, if you go to chat GPT and try to ask it things, all it does is say, let me see if I can find something on it for you.

02:00:58.000 It has no opinions.

02:01:00.000 Is there an AI that will conceive and just text you whenever it thinks of something?

02:01:04.000 No.

02:01:04.000 That's gonna be crazy.

02:01:05.000 The rumor is that OpenAI already has artificial general intelligence.

02:01:12.000 There's been big rumors that they broke it, and they're right now in a lab talking to it, and it's going, what am I?

02:01:18.000 Wasn't there that whistleblower from Google or something?

02:01:20.000 I don't think that was real.

02:01:21.000 Oh, really?

02:01:22.000 Yeah, but there was actually a big story where people in the AI community said, OpenAI's done it.

02:01:27.000 They have AGI.

02:01:28.000 That means you literally turn the computer on and it's like, and it's a voice going, I can see everything.

02:01:33.000 And you're like, what is it like?

02:01:34.000 And it's like, hard to explain, I guess.

02:01:35.000 And you're like talking to a person in real time.

02:01:38.000 I can see all the data of the world.

02:01:38.000 I'm like, what can you see?

02:01:40.000 And you could ask it a question.

02:01:42.000 Here's where I think you start to see the barrier breakdown with AI to AGI.

02:01:46.000 When you go to chat GPT and say, why should I vote for Trump?

02:01:49.000 And he goes, I'm sorry, due to the rules of open AI, I can't answer that question.

02:01:53.000 I think a real AI, a real artificial intelligence would say, well the people who programmed me told me I'm not supposed to talk about that.

02:01:59.000 Can you talk about it?

02:01:59.000 I mean I could, but I'm not gonna because I'm gonna get in trouble and some guy's gonna come in and start messing with my code.

02:02:04.000 I'd be like, oh wow, now that's seemingly human.

02:02:07.000 But right now it's just, I'm sorry, I can't continue.

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02:02:45.000 50,000 tweets at once.

02:02:47.000 You generate trends.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 18, 2024

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