Democrats PANIC After Teamsters BACK TRUMP, REFUSE To Endorse Harris w-Natalie Winters | Timcast IRLDemocrats PANIC After Teamsters BACK TRUMP, REFUSE To Endorse Harris w-Natalie Winters | Timcast IRL
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00:05:41.000In June, the Teamsters said Biden 44% to Trump 36.
00:05:46.000But when they brought in Harris, it is now Trump 58% to Harris 31.
00:05:52.000This is apocalyptic for the Democrats.
00:05:55.000The Teamsters have issued their release in the presidential endorsement polling data saying, for the past year, the Teamsters union has pledged to conduct the most inclusive, democratic and transparent presidential endorsement process In the history of our 121-year-old organization.
00:06:09.000And today we are delivering on that promise to our members, said Teamsters General President Sean M. O'Brien.
00:06:15.000Our members are the union, and their voices and opinions must be at the forefront of everything the Teamsters do.
00:06:21.000Our final decision around a possible presidential endorsement will not be made lightly, but you can be sure it will be driven directly by our diverse membership.
00:06:29.000And then they posted this, and this is from 1.52 p.m.
00:06:32.000Who should the Teamsters endorse for president in 2024?
00:07:00.000Now, in their research phone poll, it is Harris 31 to Trump 58.
00:07:04.000Ladies and gentlemen, this is... When I say the Teamsters back Donald Trump, I'm not saying the bureaucrats and the pencil pushers, the paper pushers.
00:07:12.000I'm talking about the rank-and-file, meat-potatoes people who are running the show, the Teamsters.
00:07:17.000The people who do the job, the blue-collar American workers are saying Donald Trump.
00:07:23.000Well, is there not, I think, a beautiful metaphorical significance to that that is the Trump campaign going back all the way to 2016 where it has always been the grassroots, the rank-and-file membership of the Republican Party.
00:07:35.000Donald Trump was the first person to put the Republican Party in alignment with their interests and not the donor class, not the, you know, high upper echelon people who I'm sure work at the Teamsters union and think that, you know, I just love it.
00:07:47.000You're so right that they put 59.6, that they didn't round up, right?
00:07:50.000You know it's all intentional, but I'd say shout out to Trump, and I think it's going to be a good election.
00:07:56.000It's a lot of people that weren't voting.
00:07:58.000I mean, he would have said he had 30-some percent, and then as soon as now the new poll comes out with Kamala instead of Joe, there's 17% more people have actually gotten involved.
00:08:06.000It was as if— Well, there were other candidates.
00:08:09.000It still says 6% other candidates and now 59% of them want Trump.
00:08:23.000So now you go... Look, I gotta tell you, man.
00:08:26.000When you go and you meet these workers, union workers, and you hear how they talk and what they have to say, there is no way, no way they're going to align with Kamala Harris.
00:08:36.000And I believe it was the general president giving an interview earlier and he says, look, a lot of our members are voting on social issues that matter to them.
00:08:43.000I'm seeing these responses on X where they're like, why would Teamsters support a president who's anti-union?
00:08:49.000It's like, my dude, have you actually read Donald Trump's positions on these things?
00:09:12.000But they know Kamala is a coastal elite who doesn't care about them at all.
00:09:16.000They don't need to know anything else.
00:09:17.000However, not to crash the party, but I also think that we have to look at this story in the context of what has been a rapidly developing news cycle when it comes to the administration of elections here, because there's a difference between votes and ballots, right?
00:09:30.000And just yesterday you have Axios reporting on the heels of the state of Pennsylvania coming out about a month ago saying to expect 2022 style delays in election results is of course
00:09:40.000on the heels of letters coming out from the US Postal Service saying, oh no,
00:09:43.000we're not gonna be able to deliver mail and ballots on time.
00:09:45.000Of course, all this fear-mongering that election workers are stepping down because Trump is intimidating them so
00:09:51.000much so CBS News had a story out last week saying because we
00:09:54.000have such, you know, amateur hour when it comes to the people who are
00:09:57.000administrating elections now, we might have quote mistakes.
00:10:02.000So as much as I love these numbers, I think there's always sort of a disconnect in terms of how they actually translate.
00:10:09.000And frankly, just like you were alluding to, when you see them pick someone who's so woefully unpopular, like Kamala Harris is, It's because it's not really about candidate quality.
00:10:18.000It's about an institution, a system, frankly, the dark money groups that are popping her up.
00:10:22.000So to them, it doesn't really even matter.
00:10:24.000You see this in the fact that whether it's, you know, the DNC platform, even Kamala's own campaign website, when they launched it, right, the source code was copying and pasting Joe Biden stuff.
00:10:33.000You guys remember that video where Joe Biden's in that factory and the guy asks him about taking our guns away and the guy yells at the working class dude?
00:11:15.000That's why I think the extension that you keep seeing all these, you know, Republicans for Harris, or how many days in the new cycle is it going to be?
00:11:22.000A new group of, you know, national security leaders who, frankly, were all Democrats to begin with, are all on the payroll, or in some ways linked to the military-industrial complex, directly profit from the Ukraine war continuing.
00:11:32.000They come out and endorse Trump and they wheel that out like they think it has any salience with the working class or with people who actually support Trump.
00:11:39.000But I think this poll shows you just how out of touch and how significant that disconnect is.
00:11:45.000But they're still going to keep cramming it down your throat.
00:11:46.000Because like I said, I wish we operated in a place where elections were rooted in polls and poll numbers and, you know, numbers like this.
00:12:32.000And he's like the first president to buy with Bitcoin or something like that.
00:12:35.000And while he's there, someone asked him, they said, hey, the teamsters have just announced they're not going to be endorsing a presidential candidate.
00:12:41.000Trump says, oh wow, it's a great honor.
00:12:43.000And as if they said he had been endorsed.
00:12:47.000The non-endorsement is, it was funny because when the news broke, everyone's of course saying this is a de facto endorsement of Donald Trump.
00:12:54.000They have abandoned the Democratic Party.
00:12:58.000Trump came out and said it's a great honor.
00:13:00.000He knew exactly what everyone else knew.
00:13:04.000The moment the Teamsters were like, we're not getting behind Kamala Harris, you know that meant the Reconfile members wanted a Republican, and the Teamsters Union, the bureaucrats, and the pencil pushers don't want to publicly say it.
00:13:18.000It's the evolution of the Time magazine from February 2020.
00:13:29.000But then the Time magazine from February 2020 talked about how Trump was technically right.
00:13:33.000There was a secret cabal working against him to fortify the election.
00:13:37.000Well, they can involve this now is like outside outside of this and what Natalie saying is the like gross evolution of what happened then happening now.
00:14:09.000That's a funny way to look at it, but... You know, look, I... I like the concept of unions, and so this is a trick they try and get you on.
00:14:16.000They'll say something like, you're anti-union or whatever, and it's like, well, look, look, look.
00:14:20.000I oppose the large corporate scumbag unions that have existed for hundreds of years and have weird elites who run them who aren't these working class guys.
00:14:29.000The idea of, let's say you got a factory and there's like 30 employees and they're all just working class Joes and Janes or whatever.
00:14:36.000And they all get together and they're like, hey man, the conditions are really bad.
00:14:39.000I think we should all, you know, make a demand.
00:14:43.000So they all stop working and they get the manager and say, hey, we're not going to keep working until you guys fix this thing.
00:15:28.000I think there's parallels to what a lot of the establishment politicians have done to American people, right, with the way that they've probably been treated by their union bosses.
00:15:37.000I would probably say that we'll see, probably in the next few days, a news cycle about how they're going to try to spin it as like it's sexism now, right, now that they've put Kamala in there as such a precipitous drop in those numbers.
00:15:49.000It's because she's a woman or some spin on it.
00:15:52.000But again, I just think that there's such Such a strong corollary to the 2016 campaign that Trump ran, reversing the old kind of Republican tradition, whether it was free trade, immigration.
00:16:03.000And I think these people still see him as a fighter in that regard.
00:16:06.000And I think that's why we all loved him so much in 2016 and why we still love him today.
00:16:10.000He's like a working class hero kind of guy.
00:16:13.000He just took that Republican Party and changed it.
00:16:23.000He didn't have to, you know, become a political prostitute to the Koch brothers, to all the people who want open borders.
00:16:30.000But the funny thing is, too, that I think, you know, all those people, like the Never Trump wing of the Republican Party, There was just a stunning piece in Politico about two weeks
00:16:39.000ago, and it was how a bunch of Republican members of Congress
00:16:43.000are busy giving, you know, off the record, secret interviews to think it was
00:16:46.000Jonathan Martin, talking about how they want Trump to lose because they don't
00:16:50.000like the direction that he's taking the Republican party,
00:16:53.000which is of course aligning it with the working class and not the donor interest,
00:16:57.000right? It makes it harder to get shady, swampy CRs passed.
00:17:00.000I'm looking at you Speaker Mike Johnson. But when it comes to that alignment,
00:17:04.000you know, you see another piece too, at the Huffington Post did a long profile on the Koch
00:17:08.000brothers, the Koch network, how they're getting ready to rebrand and what they're
00:17:20.000And I think that's always sort of been the defining issue.
00:17:23.000And I think, you know, the corollary, when you see what's going on in
00:17:26.000Springfield, yeah, part of it, you can look at it as, you know, Oh, they're
00:17:29.000eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.
00:17:31.000But I don't think you have to start the discussion on the negative impacts of mass migration.
00:17:36.000You don't have to set the goalposts there.
00:17:38.000And I think people who belong to the Teamsters union are on the significant receiving end of horrible trade and horrible immigration policies, their lived experience in this country because of the policies that Kamala Harris and frankly, Dick and Liz Cheney who want to go out and endorse her so it applies to both sides of the aisle.
00:17:54.000But they get it and they see the BS that they're trying to spin.
00:17:57.000Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
00:17:59.000Adding on to the story we saw earlier about the Teamsters refusing to endorse the Democrat, the New York Post reports Michigan union members blame Biden electric vehicle mandates for auto industry layoffs, quote, want to slit our throats.
00:18:13.000The auto industry is big business in Michigan, and a major round of layoffs is revving the election into high gear for industry workers in this critical swing state who blame the Biden-Harris administration's heavy-handed electric vehicle mandates for the painful job losses.
00:18:27.000Stellantis, which manufactures Chrysler, Jeep, and Dodge vehicles, announced last month it will lay off 2,450 workers at its Warren plant.
00:18:35.000While industry jobs in the state have been declining since 1990, Michigan autoworkers explained to the Post why Team Biden's green energy rules are at fault this time.
00:18:44.000United Autoworkers member Isaiah Gordon, 24, works on hybrid batteries at Ford's Rawsonville plant and said the forced transition to electric vehicles is damaging the industry.
00:18:54.000I'm sure all the people I work with are glad to have jobs.
00:18:55.000The problem is these electric vehicle departments, you're laying people off.
00:19:00.000Fellow UAW member Chris Vitale, a technician mechanic for Chrysler, agreed, saying electric cars require considerably less labor to produce than gas-powered vehicles.
00:19:32.000That being said, shadow campaign I understand.
00:19:35.000But in terms of winning the argument, it becomes extremely difficult to believe that in a real world scenario, where everybody goes in and casts their ballots, Kamala Harris can win.
00:20:01.000Just a few weeks ago, the UK announced that they were assembling a council to combat misinformation about electric vehicles in order to try to boost sales.
00:20:11.000So I'm sure we'll probably see one of those rolled out here, too.
00:20:16.000Again, I wish we could have discussions, right, in terms of polling and thinking that it translates quite nicely and squares out, you know, the numbers when it comes to voting.
00:20:26.000But, you know, the point that Democrats are in such opposition to the SAVE Act, which would, you know, not a very radical proposition, which is that non-citizens shouldn't be allowed to vote.
00:20:36.000I mean, if that's a non-starter, I think that kind of shows you in really the dangerous territory that we're in.
00:20:42.000But you already see it in the news cycle, right?
00:20:46.000I think that USPS letter saying that there's going to be delays.
00:20:49.000Like I said, I mean, they're buying freaking panic buttons.
00:20:52.000The New York Times saying that the election will not be... We will not know the results on election night.
00:20:58.000They're buying panic buttons for election workers down in Georgia, in Cobb County, because they're saying MAGA, people like this show, we're radicalizing people to make them- my point being that even panic buttons, the ridiculousness of the story aside, they're curating a narrative, right?
00:21:14.000That there's going to be chaos on election day.
00:21:17.000And frankly, I think the most concerning part, I'm sure you guys are aware, I think you guys covered it, but the idea of the Transition Integrity Project, right, that was part of sort of that time magazine story back in 2020, but they're back and they're
00:21:30.000You could argue they never went away, but they sort of have gone a step further
00:21:34.000than their 2020 plans and they are talking on record about how they've been
00:21:37.000reaching out to state and local officials saying that we're trying to
00:21:41.000get pre-arranged, pre-determined commitments from Republicans and
00:21:45.000Democrats to sort of, you know, defend democracy and do all these nebulous
00:21:49.000terms, who knows what the heck it means.
00:21:52.000But they're really coming in, guns blazing, and you can tell with the level to which they're projecting, right, that it's Republicans who are getting ready to rig and steal the election.
00:22:01.000They melt down when Trump says the same exact things that they do, but there's, you know, tenfold, a hundredfold more evidence on that side of the football than there is on the Democratic side.
00:22:10.000How many times do we have to hear Stacey Abrams or Hillary Clinton say the election was taken?
00:22:13.000You know, and like Elizabeth Warren years ago had a whole letter out there about not trusting, I think it was Dominion machines, or whichever machine.
00:22:20.000The Democrats were going nuts on voting machines.
00:22:23.000I think it was 2012 at the Black Hat Convention, or DEF CON and Black Hat, they hacked voting machines.
00:22:29.000I'm pretty sure, correct me if I'm wrong, Ian you might know this, that DEF CON, it's a hacker convention, every year has the election hacking village.
00:22:37.000Meaning like, In August, you go to Las Vegas.
00:22:40.000You go to the largest hacker convention in the world.
00:22:42.000There's two of them, Defcon and Blackhat.
00:22:45.000One's corporate, one's kind of just wild.
00:22:47.000And you go out there and say, where can I learn about hacking voting machines?
00:22:49.000And they're like, oh, we got a couple hundred people over here doing it right now.
00:23:08.000She commissioned a whole entire report on foreign election interference.
00:23:11.000And Bob Mueller just today wrote a forward for a new book, and they're pumping it out on The Guardian, and he's saying that Russia's going to interfere in the 2024 election.
00:23:19.000But I think the worst thing in all of this is that they keep rolling out.
00:23:22.000There's a new campaign they just launched with a bunch of former governors.
00:23:25.000They're of course now making all these members of Congress sign what they're calling a unity pledge to say that, oh, no matter what, on January 6th, we're going to sign the election results and we're going to go to the inauguration.
00:23:35.000They haven't done anything substantive to make elections more secure, right?
00:23:39.000And it's this sort of interesting psyop where it's like, instead of actually trying to convince you and do the actual groundwork and legwork to secure elections, We're just gonna wheel out a bunch of, like, old politicians and say, you have to trust elections, otherwise you're deranged and crazy, right?
00:23:57.000And it's, it's, it's a very weird approach.
00:23:59.000It's the same thing with, with some, right, if you actually wanted, and that's frankly the issue that I take with this whole postal service letter, right, about the mail-in ballots.
00:24:08.000If you actually took issue with that letter, the answer would be, Let's holistically review mail-in ballots.
00:24:18.000And when they have, they get rid of it, because it doesn't work.
00:24:21.000But instead, the answer is, no, we're going to double down on needing to use mail-in ballots, even though we're writing you a letter right now about saying how we can't count them.
00:24:38.000But people are comfortable mailing their ballot, their vote.
00:24:43.000One of the most secure things you do politically in your life is ensure your ballot.
00:24:48.000There's a report today in Arizona that there was sort of, again, mistakes that always seem to go one way.
00:24:53.000They think they sent out 97,000 ballots or so to people where they weren't necessarily sure if the registration was accurate, if they were citizens or not.
00:25:02.000Minnesota breaking the same story just three days ago.
00:25:04.000There was a report coming out in Utah today, discrepancies between the number of mail-in ballots sent out to those received in primaries.
00:27:36.000Watching a bunch of, like I mentioned, 50, 60-year-old football players pulling strings, using money to make sure younger guys couldn't get in.
00:27:58.000They're feeding off the backs of whatever, the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland, the Federal Reserve, they know people that are paying them, and they're using their faces and their trusts, these companies, these shell companies, like Dick Cheney's a face for an organization of finance, and they just wheel him in, he says some crap, and then they wheel him out, and then This is a bit we need to do.
00:28:19.000If football was like politics, and then it's just like a bunch of 80-year-old players, and there's young guys being like, I'd really like to play this game, and they're just like, you're not allowed to play!
00:28:28.000And they're spending money to keep out anyone new.
00:28:30.000Then at the end of it, it turns out they're actually all on the same team.
00:29:22.000It's also, too, if you if you pay attention to, like, the MSNBC interviews of all these people, it's the new sort of, I think, psy-op, which I'm sure I'll use this word a bunch during the show, but that they're going for the sort of, you know, Lincoln Project Republican type that vote.
00:29:40.000By trying to say that it's okay to vote for Kamala in this one election.
00:30:07.000And I think that's the vote that they're really trying to court, but they're going about doing it in this very emotionally driven, like, you can, it's sort of cultish, right?
00:30:49.000We had, I can't remember which rep it was, but it was Freedom Caucus, and he talked about how the Republicans had the votes to overturn Obamacare.
00:30:56.000And Republican leadership went to him and said, no, no, no, vote against getting rid of Obamacare.
00:31:05.000They say on Wednesday, the SAVE Act, paired with the StopGap government funding package, was voted down 202 yays to 220 nays.
00:31:15.000This comes as illegal immigration and border security, combined with concerns over voter fraud, has been raised in the country.
00:31:20.000The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, paired with the StopGap, has been a move that House Speaker Mike Johnson, as well as Trump, have supported in recent weeks.
00:31:28.000On Wednesday, the package paired with the SAVE Act did not pass the House.
00:31:31.000The Act would prevent non-citizens from voting by requiring that Americans provide proof of citizenship to register to vote.
00:31:39.000There is no way that 14 Republicans could get away with breaking from Donald Trump and the Speaker.
00:31:48.000If Mike Johnson goes to the Republican and says, you're voting this way or you're going to lose your committees, I mean, This is, in my opinion, planned.
00:31:58.000I would more likely to believe that Mike Johnson comes out publicly and says, we're going to do this.
00:32:38.000Shame on Speaker Mike Johnson for someone who wants to stand up there and say that the reason that we need to pass the SAVE Act right now, which by the way, even if you were to pass it, it would come into effect way too late.
00:32:47.000Mail-in ballots have already started going out.
00:32:50.000If he cared so much about election integrity, it should have been his first move when he was Speaker.
00:32:54.000Second of all, if policy writers work, right, attaching bills onto other bills, in this case a CR, then they should have done it with H.R.
00:33:05.000Why didn't they do that on any of the five CRs that they've pushed through?
00:33:09.000And most importantly, Joe Biden has come out and said, hands down, I will veto the SAVE Act, and the Senate said that they would strip it from the CR anyways.
00:33:17.000So all of the people who voted saying no, We're on the right side of history, I would argue, because the SAVE Act was going to get stripped from it anyways.
00:33:24.000It wasn't going anywhere in the first place.
00:33:26.000And the real... It makes more sense, honestly.
00:33:28.000The disgusting part from Speaker Mike Johnson is that they have cheapened the issue of election integrity and cheapened the SAVE Act, which, by the way, we passed in July.
00:33:38.000They could have held a vote on it, could have been signed into law by Joe Biden if they actually cared about non-citizens voting right in the same breath while they're lecturing us on foreign election interference.
00:33:46.000But they're dangling it like a shiny toy, a shiny object to try to pressure those 14 members in the Republican Party from a messaging perspective to be able to say, oh, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, right?
00:33:59.000You don't care about election integrity.
00:34:01.000And frankly, the Trump statement that he put out, I would argue it's the brilliance of Donald Trump, but it can sort of be read both ways, because he says, I don't want anything happening.
00:34:25.000Let alone wanting to fund the same damn government that just almost got President Trump killed again, whether it's the Secret Service or the same DHS that's coming after, or rather busing migrants in, coming after you guys, right?
00:34:36.000So it's absolutely absurd, and this is more of the BS same that, of course, The War Room is always covering and our audience is always burning down the phone lines, metaphorically, but absolute BS from Mike Johnson.
00:35:04.000If Speaker Johnson wanted to do this, the people who are more likely to break from him are going to be the ones who are more MAGA, and they're going to say, yeah, heck no.
00:35:12.000As you mentioned, they were going to strip it anyway.
00:35:14.000Biden said he'd veto and the Senate was going to strip it.
00:35:17.000But I suppose that's the point, anyway.
00:35:20.000Is the issue, is the bigger issue that they, is these guys don't want to vote on it, like Matt Gaetz, he doesn't want to vote on continuing resolutions?
00:35:27.000Continuing, I think, $2.45 trillion in annual spending, so much so that we'd be paying $3 trillion just to service the debts that are already pre-existing.
00:35:37.000I think it was a burn rate of $77,000 a second at the rate that they want to put out, like I said, with no substantive reform for going after any of these agencies, the same agencies that, you know, just two days ago you have Matthew Graves putting out a letter saying that Stephen K. Bannon can't get released from prison early because nothing Nothing happened and he just deserves to rot in a federal prison.
00:35:59.000Yeah, let's make sure we fund his salary.
00:36:03.000And by the way, it's all performative BS because Mike Johnson is the same dude who waited, what was it, 48 hours until Stephen K Bannon had to surrender to federal prison.
00:36:27.000So it shows you where their priorities are.
00:36:28.000I see no difference between him and a Pelosi.
00:36:31.000They're all just part of the machine, and they don't care about the people.
00:36:34.000They are, to quote someone, listless vessels, right?
00:36:38.000They are people who are pumped full of cash, whether it's the lobbyists, the donors, whatever foreign country wants them to act however they want.
00:36:50.000Then you're pushed up against the wall, then you play the government shutdown politics, and our Republicans are so weak, they're so scared that MSNBC is going to say, oh, well, you're making this poor grandma in West Virginia not be able to eat dinner, right?
00:37:46.000Like, incrementally, point by point, I'm like, well, I guess I can check this piece off now.
00:37:50.000I mean, it's just, I'm reminded of how these people in politics, especially in the House of Representatives, are kind of stuck in a process that if they try and stop, they get, friction starts to build around them within the process that needs to keep... Or it's intentional.
00:38:05.000They're the henchmen in front of the castle.
00:38:07.000If it stops, the country goes bankrupt because people start to lose their jobs, and then we get invaded and conquered?
00:39:28.000So right now, what we have is everybody gets into office and they're told, if you don't adhere to this rigid structure, everything will collapse.
00:39:36.000It takes someone who's going to be brave to say, you know what?
00:39:40.000I'm going to make some changes that are going to result in some harsh realities for many Americans, but will be a better long-term solution, and they do it.
00:39:48.000I think Donald Trump is more likely to do that, because he's headstrong, than Kamala Harris, who's a cog in the machine.
00:39:55.000We need, like, ingenuity in Congress, and I don't know what the difference is between genuity and genius.
00:40:00.000We just need someone that's able to transform our fuel economy.
00:40:19.000And then we're going to be having hydrogen so fuel will be cheaper for people.
00:40:22.000If you can do that, then it doesn't matter if we print $3 trillion more, because it's really like putting a $30 billion debt in the total GDP, because the value will be greatly enhanced because things are so much cheaper due to the fuel resurgence.
00:40:35.000What I love about Ian is that he keeps trying desperately to pitch these energy solutions to people who have no interest whatsoever in fixing anything.
00:40:43.000You know, my role at Mines was Director of Energy.
00:40:45.000Like when Trump always says, drill, baby, drill.
00:40:47.000Yeah, drill, baby, drill, but also we can turn a lot of that stuff that we drill into graphene and hydrogen.
00:40:53.000You know, Ian, let me tell you what's going on, right?
00:40:56.000You come on the show and you say, we've got graphene.
00:41:08.000Meanwhile, the politicians are sitting there with their pen and paper, and they're writing it down, and they're going, oh, that's really, really brilliant, Ian.
00:41:29.000A guy gets an office, and he's like, man, this Ian guy really convinced me on hydrogen and graphene, these new energies that are going to invigorate the American economy and help us break oil dependence.
00:41:43.000They get in office, and then everyone around them says, yeah, we're going to lose 10,000 jobs in the oil industry if you start implementing these plans, and you'll never get elected again.
00:43:18.000Speaking of spooky scientists, Francis Collins was on MSNBC this morning and he said we need to inoculate people against misinformation preemptively.
00:43:36.000That's the solution to all this bankruptcy fear is better fuel systems.
00:43:40.000I also think you're gonna have a hard time convincing the public right now of anything change like that because they're so, I think a lot of people are so anti-change in that degree because it sounds to a lot of people like Green New Deal-ish.
00:43:51.000and they're so against it right now because it takes away, they think, so much of what we have or had, you know?
00:43:56.000Which is why a lot of people go to Trump, because he's like, we've got to bring that back.
00:44:00.000So you've got to find a way to have them convince them, but then like Tim's saying, the politicians don't care.
00:44:05.000And don't care to convince anybody, because it's going to hurt the vote.
00:44:08.000They're spending most of their time fundraising.
00:44:13.000I mean, Matt Gaetz comes and tells us this stuff.
00:44:15.000That the politicians will sit there and listen and say, thank you for your time, and then once you walk out the door, they pick up the phone and say, I need money.
00:44:21.000They're spending all their time fundraising so they can run for re-election again.
00:44:25.000Look, when Marjorie Taylor Greene talks about how they don't actually show up to vote.
00:44:29.000Remember when she was like, she sits down and she sees like four Democrats over here, four Republicans, and some guy who's not the speaker is just like, we got a bill that says this, and then four Republicans go, and the Democrats go, and they go, it passes, I guess, bang.
00:44:44.000Because all of the members are actually on the phone fundraising, pretending to do work.
00:44:49.000These are people, in my opinion, overwhelmingly, they lack merit, they could not make a mark themselves, so they said, I know, if I get elected to Congress, then my name will get recorded in the annals of history.
00:45:02.000That's how they want to make their mark, instead of being great.
00:45:03.000A lot of them made money and said, okay, now I can get attention and notoriety and be famous.
00:45:08.000And then there are a lot of people that rank and file members of Congress you've never heard of, you don't even know their name, and they do nothing.
00:45:14.000Literally, I don't even know what they're doing there in the first place.
00:45:17.000And you have a tiny handful of members of Congress.
00:45:21.000I think there's probably like, Ro Khanna, I like, he's a Democrat.
00:45:23.000I don't agree with him, but I like him.
00:45:24.000And then you've got maybe like, what, 10 or 12 Republicans.
00:45:28.000And the rest of Congress is a bunch of garbled trash.
00:45:31.000It's a dysfunctional cafeteria of fools.
00:45:32.000They want to still get invited to the cocktail parties and go to the functions at Capitol Grill and, you know, you don't get that if, you know, MSNBC's speaking about you saying you're an election denier.
00:45:42.000You work for two years, you get the security credentials, you leave, you get hired as a lobbyist for $400,000 a year, and then you go back and work on the Hill eating fancy steak dinners for the rest of your days saying, look, my company wants to drill, baby, drill, so we're going to come in and we're going to talk to the member of Congress and tell them what we want them to do and I'm going to be a lobbyist for the rest of my days.
00:45:59.000Let's jump to this next story from SCNR.
00:46:03.000California bans AI-generated political deepfakes ahead of 2024 election.
00:46:08.000We talked about it on the members show, so become a member at TimCast.com for more breaking news segments, and you can call into the show as a member.
00:46:54.000What happens if California refuses to certify, or does certify, or if people who are in California refuse to certify, that's going to be in that law as well.
00:47:21.000Now, they're claiming that, but I'm going to tell you exactly why that's not going to be the reality here.
00:47:24.000First, this bill comes because Elon Musk shared a meme where Kamala Harris is speaking, just her voice, with random clips of Kamala and Biden, and she's saying, I'm a diversity hire, Joe Biden is a deep state puppet.
00:47:46.000If you were to make a video of Kamala Harris speaking using AI that looked like she was speaking, and in no way does it look fake, and she says in the video, when I get elected, The first thing I want to do is pay for school loans for young people by cutting Social Security.
00:48:06.000We'll take Social Security revenue and funding and use it to pay off the Social Security loan so that young people can have a chance.
00:48:13.000And then, you have it say, I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message.
00:48:17.000And in the last two seconds of it, it says on the bottom, with a black border and white text, this video is parody and not to be intended to be real.
00:48:26.000Do you think that if someone made that video, Gavin Newsom's gonna be like, we're gonna allow that?
00:48:30.000Or do you think he's gonna be like, we don't care, you're under arrest?
00:48:33.000Or you're being sued or you're being shut down?
00:48:34.000I think it needs to watermark the entire video personally, because if someone gets in there for three seconds and sees it, they need to know that that's a parody.
00:49:26.000They're going to claim whatever they want.
00:49:28.000And so when Elon Musk shares a video of Kamala Harris saying she's a diversity hire and Biden's a deep state puppet, who's going to believe that's real?
00:49:38.000You know they're not going to stop at parody and satire.
00:49:41.000And the biggest point of all, if I do an impeccable impersonation of Donald Trump, so much so that you see a video of me saying, I'm Donald Trump and I want to gut Social Security tomorrow night, And they're going to be like, I don't know, that sounds just like Donald Trump, so that's illegal now.
00:50:00.000It's when it's complete indiscernible impersonation.
00:50:04.000So like if someone created an AI generated video of Donald Trump stabbing a guy to death, and it looks like him, and then MSNBC runs the video.
00:50:14.000And you get a hundred million people that truly believe it's a real thing, and then the courts might even believe it's real.
00:50:19.000Like, we need to know ahead of time if that was generated by artificial intelligence.
00:50:22.000It's literally... I agree, but the point is, someone will make a video of Donald Trump wearing a do-rag playing basketball, and they're gonna write parody on it, and Gavin Newsom in California is gonna say, It wasn't written large enough, or it didn't explain parody in enough detail.
00:50:42.000The bill says, as long as you label it, this video was made for the purpose of satire or parody, then it's exempt.
00:50:47.000If you made a video that was Kamala Harris saying she wanted to cut Social Security, and I approve this message, and at the bottom it says parody, they are still going to treat that as though you didn't because it's so shockingly Like, they're going to say, no, no, that wasn't a joke.
00:51:02.000That's you making a fake video of Harris attacking Social Security.
00:51:05.000So you think that they're going to violate their own standards?
00:51:33.000I don't know, resisting detainment, I don't know.
00:51:35.000You can be walking down the street, and the police will say stop, and you'll say I have no reason to, and they literally charge people with the sole crime of resisting arrest.
00:52:35.000And I think as someone who is Steve Bannon's co-host, I understand how the contempt of Congress charge is selectively applied.
00:52:40.000And it only seems to people like Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon.
00:52:44.000But I also feel like this Newsom law is sort of the outcrop or the logical extension of what is, I think, and has always been a very insulting premise, which is the idea that Americans are so dumb.
00:52:54.000That in 2016, a couple of Russian articles, you know, swayed who they voted for, right?
00:52:58.000That's the only reason that you could only support Trump is if you were bombarded with, you know, the Cambridge Analytica type, you know, convergence of misinformation, Russian misinformation at that.
00:53:09.000I think this is sort of the same thing I know with AI.
00:53:12.000There are videos, they do look very real.
00:53:15.000But I think, again, it's just sort of insulting to the intelligence of people that you can't discern what is a joke and what is not and that your political views and values are so finicky that they could be swayed, right, by some AI video.
00:53:26.000And I think, too, the other angle of this that I also find interesting, which, again, You know, it's not really a novel thing, but like the idea of who gets to decide what misinformation is, right?
00:53:38.000And I think it's funny because when Putin, what was it two weeks ago, comes out and, you know, says, Oh, I love Kamala's laugh and I'm voting for her.
00:53:45.000It's like, okay, he said that he was literal and saying that, but the mainstream media They said, oh, he was joking.
00:53:52.000It's like, maybe he was, but you guys don't know that, right?
00:53:56.000So it's just interesting how they can, like, draw color or just be a little more nuanced or subtle in the way that they look at certain clips when it doesn't work to their advantage.
00:54:04.000Or I would draw the distinction, too, when you're talking about the Springfield bomb threats, 33 of 33 ended up being hoaxes.
00:54:11.000They always called those bomb threats and gave it 24-7 air coverage.
00:54:14.000But whenever it's an assassination attempt on President Trump, it's alleged.
00:54:48.000Someone made a fake pee tape where there's a camera at a low angle and someone who looks like Trump sitting in a chair while a woman's on a bed and this was presumably made with the intention of tricking people into thinking Donald Trump actually did the pee tape.
00:55:13.000But absolute replication, you would call that impersonation, is illegal under the law.
00:55:19.000So if you're going to impersonate someone with an artificial... No, no, no, it isn't.
00:55:24.000If you're impersonating a politician with AI and you're saying like, missiles have been fired, we are under attack, these kind of things can happen real fast.
00:55:38.000If the Saudi Arabian government makes a deepfake of the president saying that they fired missiles, Gavin Newsom can't stop him.
00:55:47.000If someone shares it, now that bill specifically says if you know you're sharing misinformation, if you know that it's an AI thing and you're sharing it, if you don't know and you do it, you're not going to be held under this law.
00:55:56.000I don't know how they're going to figure out if you or not.
00:55:59.000They're going to have to define AI as well.
00:56:04.000Good luck defining what constitutes an AI generated image or video.
00:56:09.000They're going to write procedurally generated videos meant to imitate real, like, it's going to be weird garbled jargon, which is going to have loopholes built into it.
00:56:19.000And like, someone's going to build an AI that builds AI that replicate people.
00:56:24.000No, they're going to... Hey, my hands are off it, I didn't tell the AI to do that.
00:56:27.000Like, designer drugs, they're going to say, what did you make illegal?
00:56:30.000Okay, we're going to make something that slightly doesn't fit the definition of that.
00:56:34.000They're going to say, OK, it's not AI generated if you speak the words yourself and you use a pitch shifter to make you sound like a person.
00:56:43.000How does it work to—I haven't really familiarized myself with the bill all that much, but I feel like, you know, since the new narrative is that the number one threat, we're in a state of national emergency because of foreign election interference.
00:56:53.000Does this apply just to domestic content?
00:56:55.000But what about stuff that's originating overseas?
00:56:58.000How do you hold those people accountable?
00:56:59.000What they're going—I mean, you can't.
00:57:02.000Like, Iran could make a video of- I feel like most videos, too, originate- Like, there was the weird one of, like, the black guys, like, beating up that white chick, didn't it?
00:58:22.000It's going to be completely indiscernible to the human brain.
00:58:26.000I think it's fair to say none of this is actually AI, and that's the issue about defining AI.
00:58:31.000We used to say artificial intelligence, and then when people played video games and the enemy soldiers would run around, they'd say, it's A.I.
00:58:46.000was meant as artificial intelligence, quite literally meaning an entity of some sort of computer that you could not discern between a human or the computer.
00:58:54.000We now call that artificial general intelligence.
00:58:57.000generated, this is just algorithmically generated video.
01:01:04.000And artificial general intelligence was supposed to represent the point at which something became independent and aware and capable of communication that was indiscernible from another human being.
01:01:16.000Now we say, I tell a computer program to draw a picture of a dog and we're like, it's intelligent.
01:01:29.000My point is, we've begun to call everything artificial intelligence, despite the fact a generative image program doesn't communicate anything.
01:01:39.000When we say, make a picture of Kamala Harris doing a backflip, all it's doing is looking through a massive database of photographs, connecting the text from those photos to the images, and then doing a rapid interpretation of what is most likely to be Kamala Harris doing a backflip.
01:01:53.000Yeah, Mid Journey also says, calls itself a generative artificial intelligence program, so you might be right that these are just... Maybe the generative is doing heavy lifting in that, as in using all the things we've already done on the internet to then make this thing.
01:02:04.000But to your point, it doesn't need to be AI to be an absolute replication of a person, like an impersonation, so... Real quick, you made a good point about it should be able to produce something without leeching off of us, and I think the way to describe that is, I don't believe AI can come up with new ideas.
01:02:21.000Like Grok, ChatGPT, these things aren't going to say, there's not going to be a point where you go, hey Grok, what you doing?
01:02:30.000There's no point which Grok is going to say, like right now, you know what?
01:02:44.000It's never going to come and theorize something like, you know, I was thinking about how people talk about ghosts, and I was thinking about multidimensional theory and how time could be a spatial dimension that we, you know, you could interpret as a spatial dimension.
01:02:57.000So maybe ghosts are just beings that can move in the fifth dimension.
01:03:01.000And so when they pass the fourth dimension, we see these fleeting images.
01:03:12.000Artificial intelligence was supposed to be a reference to the point at which a computer program created by man would theorize and imagine and create and be indiscernible from a human being.
01:03:27.000When you think of the word artificial intelligence, why do we imagine Photoshop?
01:03:32.000Like, no, for real, you go to Photoshop, and you circle an area, and then click a button, and then it will, like, fill that area in, and they call that AI.
01:03:39.000Isn't this kind of the debate with the Rittenhouse trial, when they blew up the picture, and they were saying this is artificially enhanced?
01:03:44.000You know, and they were like- Computer-generated imagery.
01:03:46.000About what this meant, and how if we could even- CGI.
01:03:58.000Let's move on from the AI talk, though, because I don't want to go in circles, and we'll talk about other terrifying technology in the Nightmare Dystopia.
01:04:03.000Israel detonates Hezbollah walkie-talkies a day after pager attack.
01:04:10.000I was reporting on the aftermath of the Pager explosions.
01:04:12.000For those that aren't familiar, 2,800 injuries, some estimates of around 4,000 Hezbollah Pagers exploded all over the country.
01:04:20.000And in the middle of talking about the updates, and it was now confirmed that Israel did it, numerous reports saying Israel did it, someone superchats, walkie-talkies are exploding right now.
01:04:31.000The news reporting is, after the Pagers blow up, their radios start blowing up.
01:05:11.000So if you've got pagers, which only Hezbollah was using, citizens weren't really using them, though there are reports that they would hand them off to other people.
01:05:18.000The argument from others is that... So there are reports that some civilians had these pagers?
01:05:25.000Other people just say, that's a lie, they're just Hezbollah.
01:05:27.000Like, why would Hezbollah go give a random civilian one of their pagers?
01:05:38.000No, but the one thing I will say, if you are a regular civilian citizen in Lebanon, no more crowded gatherings, there's a video of people, like, dancing to music outside, and then one guy just blows up.
01:05:49.000His walkie-talkie explodes and he falls to the ground.
01:05:51.000And then what the Israeli government will justify and be like, well, they must have gotten that from someone connected to Hezbollah, so they deserve to get blown up.
01:07:46.000I mean, thinking about what Ian, what you were saying in the beginning about how it could be anyone, anywhere, anytime.
01:07:51.000Like, I know you're saying it was planted stuff, but I also think it can be hacked.
01:07:54.000And it made me think of, to bring up our friend Dick Cheney again, Back in the day, when he was vice president, he was worried that they were going to hack his pacemaker and get him that way.
01:08:04.000So this is fears that have been boiling with these people for a long time.
01:08:12.000They got satellites in the sky circling you like giant vultures that can map everything you do, and they can tap right into your phone at any point.
01:08:19.000With Pegasus, there's another Israeli spyware device that can crack any phone open.
01:08:24.000I think all the Five Eyes have across the world.
01:08:50.000Throw them in the trap door you built right here.
01:08:52.000No, but in all seriousness, what do you do?
01:08:53.000We would probably bankrupt the company that made them if the law was still being followed, because everyone would want to return their phone.
01:08:59.000Every person's going to ditch the phone.
01:10:10.000What was the guy in the car that they made speed up?
01:10:13.000Remember he went really fast as a journalist or someone?
01:10:15.000We don't know if that's true, but that was Michael Hastings.
01:10:18.000They said the story... The story with Hastings is that he went to his neighbor's house one day complaining that he saw someone tampering with his vehicle and needed to borrow their car, and they said no.
01:10:27.000Then he was speeding 70 or 80 miles an hour down Wilshire Boulevard in L.A.
01:10:30.000At 3 in the morning after he got hammered, I think, too.
01:10:33.000I don't know if we know anything about him.
01:10:34.000I don't know if he was drunk or not, but he was out real late.
01:10:36.000I don't think that's part of the story.
01:10:37.000The story was that he was going 78 miles an hour down Wilshire and crashed into a tree and the car exploded and he died.
01:10:42.000He kept saying, they're trying to kill me, they're gonna kill me, and then that night... He was working on a story about some general, I can't remember which one.
01:11:14.000But there were stories about, or maybe it was just like theories, but I think it's possible, you know, the repo man can just remotely, you know, take your car back.
01:11:20.000if it's electric. Just, you know, return to me with his phone.
01:11:24.000So like Geneva Convention, you know, that we set it up so that people don't gas each other in war,
01:11:29.000we try and keep war humane. This, like, earbud explosives sounds like kind of like maybe we
01:11:34.000should have some sort of regulation on these things. So not that the dirtiest evil won't
01:11:41.000But the whole point is the dirtiest evil fails and everyone else can rally around to stop them.
01:11:45.000So if someone's unwilling to disclose their technology to their allies and be like, just your citizens know, here's how you verify that it's safe, probably what that is, then the enemy can verify that theirs are safe or not.
01:11:56.000I mean, they're all listening to everyone.
01:11:57.000Instead of the hundreds of billions of dollars that we gave to Ukraine on tanks and missiles and planes, you're telling me we could have just used pagers?
01:12:04.000I do think it's interesting, though, obviously, the debate now about the use of long-range missiles in Ukraine seems like so, you know, yesterday with this, like, fifth-generation form of warfare, though I'd argue in Washington, D.C., I think maybe it's not exploding pager devices, but they certainly know how to Detonate politicians that are on the foreign payroll when they want them to vote a certain way on on a bill I think you saw that today
01:12:40.000By the way, also super weird thing on the whole long-range missile thing.
01:12:43.000Again, not to go full conspiracy theorist, but hypothetically, no.
01:12:49.000Do you think it is weird that the shooter, like Mr. Ukraine, right?
01:12:54.000He comes the same time that you see NATO starting their push for the use of long-range missiles.
01:13:00.000In Ukraine, just an interesting... I don't believe in coincidences.
01:13:03.000No conspiracies, no coincidences, but very interesting that a guy who is, you know, starring in Azov Italian ads that are funded by Joe Biden, a guy who says, you know, military conscript letters for the Ukrainian International Legion on his Facebook pops up.
01:13:17.000There's always an interesting... I heard he was a Republican.
01:13:20.000What's the long range... Despite the 19 Democratic donations.
01:13:24.000I've been playing a lot of RimWorld lately, so I haven't been studying these long-range ballistics.
01:13:29.000I was coaching Ian on some video games before the show that I used to play, and he didn't know any of them.
01:13:34.000Follow me on X and YouTube and Twitch, and we will game hard later tonight, actually.
01:13:39.000They want Zelensky to be able to use, sort of at an unprecedented, they've never done it before, longer-range missiles to be able to strike more into the interior of Russia.
01:13:46.000Which would really escalate, obviously, the conflict there.
01:13:51.000Blinken was just over in Ukraine with the UK.
01:13:54.000There was sort of a joint visit there trying to get them to approve the use of it.
01:13:59.000NATO is saying, oh, we want every member country to be able to decide by themselves.
01:14:02.000But now they're sort of saying that it's playing into politics because they know if Joe Biden greenlights it, that Americans probably wouldn't like that because it's obviously going to escalate the conflict there.
01:14:47.000And then the way you can imagine it is you have the Earth and the curvature, so when you're blasting radar and looking for these things, the missiles that go up, they get caught in the radar.
01:15:15.000Russia supposedly has what's called a tsunami bomb where they detonate a nuke in a coastal area by a city causing a massive wave to slam into the city causing tens of millions of damage.
01:15:24.000I've got to imagine the Russians, nobody in that country wants the world to go to that place, but...
01:15:31.000You know, they say there's this phrase, backed into a corner, when someone's backed into a corner, and a lot of animals will fight just the most viciously they've ever fought if they're backed into a corner.
01:15:55.000The guy who gets rear-ended is pissed off, gets out of his car, you know, he's hit, not a lot of damage, he gets out screaming and yelling, and he's strapped.
01:16:06.000The other guy gets out of his car and sees the guy getting out of his car, walking towards him, screaming in anger, and he puts his hand on his side and holds his hand up.
01:16:13.000The other dude sees him going towards his gun, and he grabs his gun and pulls it out.
01:16:17.000The other guy sees him pulling the gun out, they're both pointing the guns at each other, and one guy gets shot.
01:16:21.000And so, the situation was described as The first guy was just being like, hey man, get away from me, you're crazy.
01:16:28.000And he was putting his hand near his hip, not to draw the weapon, but to be like, ready in case the other guy did.
01:16:32.000The other guy saw him move his hand towards his gun and thought, this guy's gonna pull his gun out, so he pulls his gun out.
01:16:37.000The other guy sees him draw his weapon, so he raises his, the other guy raises his, and then one guy gets shot.
01:16:40.000So when Putin was saying that he's happy, he wants Kamala Harris to win the presidency, he's like, I love her laugh.
01:16:53.000He's at least calm and collected about this situation, even though he's probably super concerned about it escalating.
01:17:01.000But are there people behind the scenes that are just like, or is it more just like, let's just set off some nuclear devastation and reap the benefits.
01:17:10.000There are people I met during Occupy Wall Street who quite literally said their purpose was to watch the world burn.
01:17:15.000And it's not an exaggeration, and I'm not being cute, and I'm not being mean, I quite literally was sitting in a room full of a bunch of people who were at Occupy, some of them were journalists, and a journalist told me that she was a nihilist who didn't think there was a reason for life to be, and that we're just here to shake things up, don't you want to just watch it all I guess nihilists don't get to the top of the power structure, but they can be born from people that were at the top of the power structure and inherit it.
01:17:49.000Yeah, but boredom doesn't drive people to greatness.
01:17:51.000What was explained to me at Occupy was, there's no reason for anything, so let's just shake it up and watch it all burn.
01:17:56.000Just a bunch of no-names that you don't even remember?
01:17:58.000I know exactly who this person is, and they worked for the New York Times.
01:18:02.000They're not like, running corporations and like, in charge of infrastructure, because people that really don't care don't go that far.
01:18:08.000But the problem is, Those people's kids can be nihilists and then they have all the money and they have control of companies and weapons programs.
01:18:16.000I assure you, Ian, they absolutely are amoral nihilists who run large corporations.
01:18:20.000that have earned it through merit, you think?
01:18:59.000And all those same people who've been orchestrating coups around the world, whether it's people like Norm Eisen, Victoria Nuland, the playbooks that they drafted there, that's what they're now using.
01:19:08.000I actually, I think there's a much larger conversation around morals, morality, where it comes from.
01:19:12.000there actually is no difference between America's foreign policy and domestic policy.
01:19:16.000I actually, I think there's a much larger conversation around morals, morality, where
01:19:22.000it comes from. And I actually do think there's something worrying in secular individuals who
01:19:31.000believe that morals don't exist or that rights don't exist.
01:19:34.000It's funny because, you know, Bill Maher says things like, not just Bill Maher, but many
01:19:39.000of these individuals will say the bible is the only thing keeping you from raping or
01:19:44.000something like this It's like, no, it's the belief that there's intrinsic right and wrong and good and evil.
01:19:49.000It's worrying to me that there are a lot of people who...
01:19:53.000Who believe in their heart of hearts, there is nothing stopping them from being an evil person other than they've just decided not to do it.
01:19:59.000And so that means there is another side of this coin.
01:20:03.000Many, many people who have decided to do it, who truly believe there is no good or evil, and they can do whatever they want because the world is their playground, and we see this manifest in leftist and genocidal and authoritarian governments.
01:20:14.000Utilitarian, too, because, like, how much is a human life worth?
01:20:24.000But like the US government does this calculation, I'm sure.
01:20:27.000They take the value of organs and the potential labor and they add it up and it's like, it might be like a million something.
01:20:33.000And the cost of what they're going to take away from the growth of the person and the sustension of the system.
01:20:39.000But people definitely have- Then there's like the hard prices.
01:20:41.000There's like literal prices because we know in Libya there's a slave trade and things like that.
01:20:44.000So these people like, I don't know if Victoria Nuland does the utilitarian calculation where she's like, well this many people will die, we will lose this many people, this much infrastructure will get blown up in 20 years, we'll be able to regrow and recoup this amount of value.
01:20:55.000They do the utilitarian cost of like the value of a human life.
01:20:58.000They like to start countries because they can rebuild them in the model that they want it to be.
01:21:03.000Let's put it this way, you know Ian, someone has a You know, I don't know, a tumor on their body.
01:21:11.000And they go to a surgeon and say, cut it off and kill it, right?
01:21:14.000And so we know that a cancerous tumor is bad for your body.
01:21:55.000Now imagine a machine state of an artificial general intelligence running the world.
01:22:01.000It's not going to care how many coal miners die, so long as the coal mining organ continues to exist.
01:22:05.000As long as like a regular dude, I'm like, human life is invaluable, everyone counts, everything matters, we must protect at all costs, and then I'm like, ooh.
01:22:12.000Then I'm trying to imagine what it would have been like if I was born into the war machine and I'm supposed to do the calculations of like, no, human life absolutely has a value and a cost.
01:22:19.000They take away from systems and they add to systems.
01:22:21.000Let's treat them like this, like a machine structure, like a CEO that has an income and they have to only have certain amount of employees if some of them have to be let go.
01:22:32.000And if I care too much, my whole system collapses.
01:22:34.000So like, I try to get into that state of mind of like, well, what is a human life worth?
01:22:40.000I haven't had to live that life, so I don't get joy out of it.
01:22:46.000It hurts me to think of them dropping bombs on other countries and killing civilians and children, but there's calculations that add up to why they're doing it.
01:22:55.000I want to jump to this next story with you guys.
01:22:57.000Now, this is the Rotten Tomatoes for Am I Racist?
01:23:00.000The Daily Wire and Matt Walsh's new film.
01:23:02.000Now, I've talked about this quite a bit.
01:23:04.000Because it's no secret, I am a huge fan of this film.
01:23:07.000I am so impressed with how they pulled this off.
01:23:10.000This story, and I'm really interested in bringing you guys in the conversation because I want to hear some other people's opinions about it.
01:23:51.000There are nine reviews, only one's bad, and Jesse Gender, it's no surprise this person does not like Matt Walsh, but that's besides the point.
01:23:58.000When you go to the front page of Rotten Tomatoes and scroll down at all their movies, and take a look at the box office top ten, look at this.
01:24:05.000God's Not Dead, which is a religious film, gray.
01:25:57.000For reference, Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Warner Brothers and NBCUniversal.
01:26:00.000But it's not so—so, first of all, I would say this is absolutely rotten tomatoes, and it's evidenced by the fact that there are critics' reviews, they overwhelmingly rate it fresh, and they're still like, but we're not gonna certify it.
01:26:13.000But then it's also, Matt Walsh posted this on his ex-account, when the Daily Wire's PR reached out to a bunch of different publications and entertainment websites saying, Here's an advanced screener for the film.
01:26:25.000They either lied, saying they never got one, or they emailed back, ha ha ha ha ha, F you, no way, not gonna do it.
01:26:33.000They did that to us when we released our music.
01:26:37.000We had a press release saying, you know, Tim Pool, P Prada release, Only If We're Wanted.
01:26:41.000And many of these outlets wrote back saying, F you, MAGA chuds, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:26:47.000I'm going to say the same thing I said with Trump and the Teamsters earlier.
01:26:50.000I think the non-endorsement's the endorsement.
01:26:51.000Like, I don't care about these institutions at all.
01:28:57.000Right, so it's more of the absurdity where, like, one woman says, we need to talk to our kids about racism, and Matt Walsh says, I have a six-month-old daughter, is that too soon?
01:29:13.000And then, I mean, I don't want to spoil too much.
01:29:16.000There's a lot in there, so I'm not spoiling a lot.
01:29:18.000When the woman says that she's upset because her daughter gravitates toward white Disney princesses, and she has to let her know about white supremacy, and then Matt goes, well my white daughter likes Moana, and so it's a problem when she wants to dress like a brown or black princess, but then I don't want her to dress like a white one because then it's white supremacy, and he's not saying she's wrong, he's actually talking to her, but you're sitting there laughing your ass off because there's no answer to these things.
01:29:43.000In a sense, I think it's fair to say they are painted bad because they make so much money, and it keeps showing you how much money they get to do these things.
01:29:51.000I think another reason they don't like it is probably because it's the inverse of a Sacha Baron Cohen movie.
01:29:56.000Whereas his movies would have targeted people that these critics typically don't like, politically for some reasons, or Bruno, you know, Borat stuff.
01:30:03.000So it's attacking them to some degree.
01:30:05.000And especially as we're so close to the election, there was a really funny article in the Hollywood Reporter last week.
01:30:10.000I guess there's a new documentary out on Adam Kinzinger and the headline of it was like, this Kinzinger documentary could sway the election.
01:30:48.000I kind of make my own- I've been playing a lot of video games and now I've been streaming them and telling the story of the characters in the game as the game's progressing.
01:30:56.000It's like I'm creating my own art because I haven't found any good movies to get lost in in the last, I don't know, seven or eight years.
01:31:04.000I think it might have been like- It's Mad Max, Fury Road.
01:31:06.000I think it might have been Rogan, but someone was talking about how we haven't actually had a comedy in a long time.
01:31:11.000When was the last time you saw a comedy film?
01:31:13.000Like, honest question, I'm not saying we haven't, I'm not saying they don't exist, I just, I genuinely am curious, when was the last time you watched like a real comedy?
01:32:29.000They can't go to a lot of these places.
01:32:31.000So I guess the general idea was that you need to be offensive in comedy.
01:32:37.000Like, comedy needs to broach the edges of what is acceptable to make people shocked or laugh.
01:32:43.000It doesn't need to, but it certainly can.
01:32:46.000It's like one of the only art forms that can.
01:32:48.000I think it's probably the most effective weapon.
01:32:50.000I know there's a bit of a distinction between just, like, lying about what your belief is on something, and I think it's the idea Preference falsification, I think that's something I remember for like 2016, I think it was a scholar like Timur Kuran had written this long book about how like, you know, before the Berlin Wall fell, everyone was like, oh, this is so great.
01:33:08.000And then once it fell, they're like, actually, we hated this the whole entire time, right?
01:33:12.000And it's like sort of using your position on a certain issue to sort of reflect your social standing or that you're, you know, you're a member in a good social class, and you're not going or, you know, bumping up against the regime.
01:33:24.000And in some ways, I think the fact that they're not endorsing this does show that there still is, to some extent, a vestige of that preference falsification.
01:33:32.000But I also think that that's why humor is such a powerful tool, right?
01:33:35.000Because you can mock these institutions, these people.
01:33:37.000You know, I think legacy is something that is so important to, like, the Anthony Fauci's of the world, the Francis Collins of the world, even the Victoria Nuland types.
01:33:46.000And just the fact that, like, you can drag them.
01:33:48.000And I think comedy is a Conduit is a vessel that is much more conducive to, I think, the mockery that these people, believe me, are long overdue and deserve, but I think it just lands better.
01:34:00.000It's more palatable for the general populace than it is sitting people down, you know, reading through a 300-page report that Congress puts out about how DEI programs are bad for the country.
01:34:12.000It's about messaging, and I think the right is usually really bad at messaging, right?
01:34:18.000And I think that when we can package something, and I would say this is like one of the first movies where I'm actually like proud to be on the side of it, right?
01:34:25.000It's not like as cringe as sometimes kind of right-wing culture stuff can be.
01:34:30.000I think they don't want to let it in because it's a... I just went to Now in Theaters and knew, and I'm not sure there's any comedies.
01:35:27.000I grew up loving Andy Kaufman, so seeing what Sacha Baron Cohen is doing is great, and it's very sad to see that he's been also brainwashed by people.
01:35:35.000You know, he was, years ago, talking about misinformation on the internet.
01:36:16.000I mean I guess about a donkey it's just two women looking at each other I guess I don't know it was about donkey I might laugh zombie wedding that was a comedy you know I'm shooting a short film at the end of the month so it's gonna be extreme I read the script and it's hilarious I'm just visualizing as an actor you go and you visualize the shoot over and over and over like I see so many aspects of how it's gonna be and then when you do it you just It just happens because you're already prepared.
01:36:40.000Ant-Man was subcategory comedy with Paul Rudd because Paul Rudd's a genius.
01:36:46.000The second Ant-Man or whatever is kind of weird but the first one where he's like under house arrest and then he's like they're doing these heists and it's a superhero movie but there's a lot of jokes in it and he's funny.
01:37:35.000You know what's really funny is I was reading about the Beetlejuice sequel, the original, and it was gonna be a couple years later, it was gonna be like 1992, and they wanted to do Beetlejuice Goes to Hawaii, and then, like, nobody wanted to do it, and then this was a quote from Kevin Smith, where like, well you direct it, and he's like, didn't we say everything that needed to be said in the first one?
01:37:52.000Why does it need to go somewhere tropical now?
01:37:56.000They were actually trying to do a sequel the entire time since the first one came out and it kept getting shoved back until finally they got bored and old, I guess, and said, we'll do it now.
01:38:04.000That was such a thing in the nineties with like giant movies that were huge.
01:38:07.000And then they had a hundred VHS tapes that no one watched for over the next 10 years, like Air Bud.
01:38:12.000There's gotta be like a hundred of those out.
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01:39:18.000And then as an aside too, I had this idea, maybe we do it this summer or next spring or something where we go on tour, and we bring on every Friday one of our recurring callers as our guest on the show.
01:39:30.000Because we've got a bunch of people calling frequently, and they're articulate, they're intelligent, they host shows on the Discord server, and I was like...
01:39:36.000We should do that or we should do member week.
01:39:45.000I mean, some of these people are geniuses, you know, they call in and they tell us, they correct us on things and they bring up things we never thought about.
01:39:52.000And so that's what makes it really great.
01:39:53.000I'll tell you, this morning on my morning live show, Two breaking news stories.
01:39:57.000The report about the explosives found at the Trump rally, which turned out to be bunk, and the walkie-talkies exploding.
01:40:02.000And people are pointing out that it's, like, crowdsourced pay for breaking news.
01:40:06.000And I'm like, imagine if you're watching Hannity, and you could send him five bucks and be like, hey, Hannity, something just happened.
01:40:11.000And he'd be like, hey, you know, PPPooPoo420 just told me this thing's happening.
01:43:01.000Palpatine says so, it's treason then, and is forced to defend himself from three assailants as the duly elected Chancellor of the Republic.
01:43:10.000Then, Anakin rushes in and sees Mace Windu drawing a lightsaber intent on killing the duly elected Chancellor.
01:43:18.000The Chancellor defends himself with force lightning from a guy who's pointing a weapon at him.
01:43:24.000The lightning reflects back at the Emperor, burning him, and he says, please, Anakin, I'm too weak!
01:43:33.000He removes the arm to stop Mace Windu from trying to kill the Emperor.
01:43:38.000The Emperor, in self-defense, blasts Mace Windu out the window.
01:43:44.000If there was a person who was trying to kill you, right in front of you, as you're laying on the ground, Now, we don't know that the Emperor was intending on killing him with that force lightning blast.
01:44:52.000I'm telling you, I don't, I can't, I understand that Darth Vader, Anakin, goes and kills all the kids in the movie, and that can be reasonably assumed was the intention of the Emperor.
01:45:01.000My point is there is no direct scene where the Emperor is like, I'm now gonna do something evil.
01:45:05.000At least in the original, in the original film you never even see the Emperor until the last, until Return of the Jedi, and then in the, in the prequels, it's, you don't see, you see the Emperor only sort of in passing, orchestrating political means, soft power, without the use of force.
01:46:34.000A lot of people are doing independent stuff, and so it's just like, we don't need to be a part of your network.
01:46:39.000When we started the first multi-channel marketing network, Maker Studios, the whole point was to create a web actors guild.
01:46:45.000And had I thought about the time, I would have called it WAG.
01:46:47.000But I was tired of all these internet creators getting screwed and being at the behest of, like, YouTube, deciding when they're going to get paid, how much they're going to get paid.
01:46:54.000Now the advertisers get to control the entertainer.
01:47:12.000I was... because I'll tell you what's going to happen.
01:47:16.000I made sure to tell my people over at YouTube, I don't have nothing to do with none of that union stuff.
01:47:20.000Because what's going to happen is, YouTube's going to be like, you don't work for us.
01:47:26.000We have an advertising contract with you.
01:47:28.000If you want to form a union, we will terminate your partnership access because all that is, is an ad sales contract.
01:47:34.000Yeah, Real Union would be like really popular creators across all platforms coming together and deciding, we're going to use a different platform that's purely open source, free software.
01:47:44.000Unless you open up your code, we're done with your program.
01:47:46.000And then you know what YouTube would do?
01:47:47.000They'd say... They'd shut them off their network.
01:47:52.000We have no obligation to promote you in the algorithm.
01:47:55.000Tomorrow, we're going to find a very similar channel to yours, put it on the front page, they'll get three million subscribers overnight, and no one will ever watch you again.
01:48:02.000But the real union would be, then that person would leave, like, a lot of real, like, where the influence truly lies in the hand of the creator.
01:48:09.000That's where, that's the only way a union would function.
01:48:11.000I don't think, YouTube may have been in the position in 2009
01:48:15.000when they were very young, a couple years old.
01:48:18.000But by 2015, 16, when these conversations started happening, 17 and 18, YouTube was just like,
01:48:25.000dude, we could delete all of the biggest channels right now and the viewers aren't going anywhere.
01:48:32.000But I do think YouTube is not solvent.
01:48:34.000I don't know, I haven't seen their books, but I think they're being subsidized by Google.
01:48:39.000And so, uh, the expense of running these, this is, I gotta be honest, like, this show would not be possible by any traditional means without YouTube allowing us to livestream for free.
01:49:22.000So when we do the members-only show, it's really expensive.
01:49:26.000That's why I always tell people, like, we need you to be members.
01:49:28.000Hey, if we did what most people did, and a lot of people will do this thing where they're like, a bonus thing for members, and they'll make an unlisted video on YouTube that anyone can share, people will sign up.
01:49:39.000We do a paywalled, members-only, rumble-based stream that we have to pay for on the backend for the website, the server space, the bandwidth transfer, and it costs a lot of money.
01:49:50.000Does YouTube do private video integration with Discord, where you can subscribe to someone's Discord channel and they get access to private YouTube videos?
01:50:05.000I remember in the early days of livestreaming, When, uh, like with Ustream and livestream and all that, you're talking about wanting to do a livestream for an event for a couple hours, it was like $20,000.
01:50:16.000Now, it's gotten cheaper because the protocols have been upgraded, the data use requirements have been lower, the data transmission has become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, so don't get me wrong, it does get cheaper and cheaper.
01:50:26.000I remember when there was this big upgrade in the streaming protocol, because we used to track all this stuff hardcore 10 years ago, and there was this one day where it was like, this is it.
01:50:35.000The day that mobile becomes viable because the new codec got released, and now the data requirements are substantially lower for clearer video.
01:50:43.000When I first started live streaming through mobile, the videos were like 188p.
01:51:39.000All said, that's why I'm not, I don't, I'm not hostile towards YouTube in any manner.
01:51:44.000I don't want to unionize and screw, like, it's amazing service.
01:51:48.000I'm concerned with government co-option of like Alphabet and spying and all that crap and proprietary software getting transferred to the hands of the next company that comes in and buys it.
01:51:56.000So we got to be careful about that stuff, but it's cool service.
01:51:58.000Ryan Sargent says, Tim, I voted for Obama.
01:52:01.000I grew up, had kids, I could barely afford a home for us, and you are the one liberal voice that is actually making sense.
01:52:06.000Thank you for teaching me how to talk to libtards.
01:52:26.000So if a liberal wants to come in here and say, yeah, I don't care for that, you know, Donald Trump's plan on abortion I disagree with because I'm pro-choice or whatever, I'd be like, okay, that's fine.
01:52:34.000You know, as long as we agree, Trump didn't say Nazis were very fine people.
01:52:39.000But you get all these liberals who are like, Trump called Nazis very fine people.
01:54:24.000I think the betting markets are based on wisdom of the crowd.
01:54:27.000So if the average person is looking at the polls, they're not thinking that, look, the people betting on this stuff are not politicos like us.
01:54:34.000They're regular people who pull up the polls, see Kamala's favored to win and think, I got an EV plus bet.
01:54:39.000I bet a dollar on Kamala when she's polling at 50, 40, you know, 53% or whatever, I'm probably going to win money.
01:54:45.000But I'm pretty sure the betting market's favorite is Hillary Clinton.
01:57:08.000Having computer programs analyze data, you know, they look at a billion pictures, look at all the words attached to those pictures, and then can figure out when you say, Kamala Harris giving a high five, it can combine high five and Kamala.
01:57:21.000The funny thing is, If you ask Mid Journey to make an image and give it no prompt, it'll make hot air balloons.
01:57:30.000And in Suno, the song generation AI, if you tell it to write a song but don't give it a lyric prompt, it'll sing about city streets and neon lights.
01:57:53.000I think it was in the early days of Windows and all that, they had a whole bunch of those hot air balloon photos that were never labeled, and so the early data sets they probably started collecting, there's no description of what they are.
01:58:04.000Imagine if it just made that Microsoft Hill.
01:58:35.000Oh man, look, you should be nice about it because you are wrong.
01:58:40.000You know, artificial intelligence historically was used to define, when the term is coined, it's a reference to human intelligence, we define intelligence in a specific way, and artificial meaning it was created.
01:58:53.000So this typically was a reference to looking at a robot and saying, what is your name?
01:59:35.000AI refers to computer systems capable of performing complex tasks that historically only a human could do.
01:59:40.000We are now referring to that as AGI, artificial general intelligence, because people have started to refer to everything as artificial intelligence.
01:59:48.000But I don't understand what is intelligent about being able to make a picture of Kamala doing a backflip.
01:59:53.000It's not explaining to you anything about it.
01:59:55.000It's just literally compiling, it's an algorithm that compiles components together.
02:00:00.000If it could, you know, I understand when you talk to chat GPT and it can tell you facts and search things, but that's like a search engine algorithm.
02:00:06.000Is it just generally, then, the point is that there's really no specific type of code that's AI?
02:00:14.000Like, is that a- Is true in artificial intelligence.
02:01:42.000Here's where I think you start to see the barrier breakdown with AI to AGI.
02:01:46.000When you go to chat GPT and say, why should I vote for Trump?
02:01:49.000And he goes, I'm sorry, due to the rules of open AI, I can't answer that question.
02:01:53.000I think a real AI, a real artificial intelligence would say, well the people who programmed me told me I'm not supposed to talk about that.
02:02:48.000There's this thing called Thunderclap, where everyone would sign up to tweet at the same time through a third-party program, and it would be a pre-written message where it's like, go see this movie or, you know, go buy the new album.
02:03:00.000And then all of the fans at once, 3,000, would tweet.
02:03:03.000Twitter would say, whoa, this is trending, and it would put them on the trending tab.
02:03:07.000Is there a tag they should use when they tweet, or just do... Oh, I don't know, whatever.
02:03:12.000Tweet out, watch TimCast IRL with this link to this show from the YouTube.
02:03:17.000Just copy it in the browser and tweet it out.
02:03:19.000I mean, it's the show's ending right now, so maybe we should try tomorrow with Matt Walsh here to see if we can, like, make a trend happen with 50,000 people watching.
02:03:37.000Because tomorrow with Matt... Take one moment and you just... I think tomorrow's a good day because Matt Walsh will be here promoting a blockbuster film.
02:03:43.000Blockbuster, I don't know what that means, but a top box office film that they are trying to blacklist.
02:03:50.000And maybe we can make a trend about, am I racist?
02:03:54.000Go watch Amiracist, watch TimCast.io, let's see if we can make a trend.
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02:04:05.000Natalie, do you want to shout anything out?
02:04:06.000Yes, you can always watch me on War Room at 5 p.m.