Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Democrats Vote To PROTECT Illegal Immigrant Predators, GOP Bill PASSES w-Ned Ryun | Timcast IRL

00:00:20.000 Republicans today introduced a bill coming from Nancy Mace to deport illegal immigrants accused of, let's just keep it light for the first 30 seconds, shall we?

00:00:30.000 Crimes of a particular nature that we find to be heinous, if you know what I mean.

00:00:36.000 145 Democrats voted against it for some reason, and it's not the first time they tried doing this, but we have questions.

00:00:41.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we're a couple days away from President Donald J. Trump.

00:00:47.000 And it seems like the Democratic Party's not learning a thing, so I guess I'm feeling good. 0.97

00:00:52.000 I mean, it feels really bad to see that they are insane.

00:00:55.000 You'd kind of wish they would moderate and figure out why Trump won in the first place, but I guess it's a good sign, considering we have a midterm to worry about in a couple of years, and we don't want Republicans to lose that one.

00:01:06.000 So we got this news, and then, it's a weird story, but of course it's making the rounds.

00:01:11.000 Elon Musk versus Asmongold.

00:01:13.000 I know many of you are probably like, what?

00:01:17.000 No, no, no.

00:01:17.000 That's a meme.

00:01:18.000 But Elon Musk was accused of censoring a prominent video game streamer who accused him of cheating.

00:01:23.000 I don't know if that's true, but the story is pretty wild.

00:01:25.000 And the only reason it's actually news is because recently Elon Musk was accused of censoring people over H-1B. So there is this narrative emerging that the corporate press has picked up and everyone's asking questions about.

00:01:34.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:35.000 Plus, FBI shutting down their DEI office.

00:01:38.000 Pretty crazy.

00:01:39.000 And then, I don't know, it's a slow news day, so we'll talk about aliens, I guess.

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00:02:38.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ned Ryan.

00:02:42.000 Great to be with you.

00:02:43.000 Yeah, no, I'm excited.

00:02:44.000 It's been a couple years.

00:02:45.000 A couple years.

00:02:45.000 And even though it seems like a slow news cycle, we will make sure that it's an exciting episode as we discuss many things.

00:02:52.000 Indeed.

00:02:52.000 We have some funny clips.

00:02:53.000 We do.

00:02:53.000 Funny clips.

00:02:54.000 And also, I'd love to talk some of these nomination confirmation hearings.

00:02:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:02:58.000 I mean, as you said, Democrats appear to be lost, but their A-game, if they're bringing their A-game, it is a pretty sad A-game.

00:03:08.000 And I think it is their A-game. 0.99

00:03:10.000 And it's pretty pathetic. 0.99

00:03:11.000 So, what do you do? 0.99

00:03:12.000 What do you do, for those who don't know you?

00:03:13.000 So, founder and CEO of American Majority.

00:03:15.000 We identify and train people to run for state and local office, so anything from school board to state senate, anything between city council, county commission.

00:03:24.000 Also run a software, database software program, VotoGravity.

00:03:28.000 Cool.

00:03:29.000 American Majority Action.

00:03:30.000 We did a significant absentee ballot generation and chase.

00:03:36.000 Projects last year in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, North Carolina.

00:03:39.000 Significant.

00:03:41.000 And I do some writing.

00:03:42.000 New book out, American Leviathan.

00:03:44.000 Birth of the Administrative State and Progressive Authoritarianism.

00:03:47.000 And just really the history of where this administrative state started, and I think one of the biggest fights that's going to take place over the next four years, is what Donald Trump does with this deeply unconstitutional, un-American, authoritarian, administrative state.

00:04:03.000 Right on.

00:04:04.000 Well, it should be fun.

00:04:05.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:04:05.000 Libby is here.

00:04:06.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:04:08.000 I'm...

00:04:08.000 You guys were making fun of me because my kid makes fun of me for my intro, so...

00:04:13.000 You should have said it a different way now.

00:04:14.000 Yeah, like, I'm Libby Emmons from the Post Millennial, and I'm glad to be here, guys.

00:04:19.000 Hello, everybody.

00:04:20.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:04:21.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:04:23.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:04:25.000 Let's go.

00:04:26.000 Here's a story from the Post Millennial.

00:04:28.000 Breaking 145 Democrats vote against Bill.

00:04:32.000 To deport illegal immigrants convicted of sex crimes. 0.89

00:04:35.000 A bipartisan group of lawmakers voted for the bill with the legislation passing with 274 votes.

00:04:40.000 No, no, no.

00:04:40.000 This must be a mistake.

00:04:41.000 You know how they do these bills where it'll be called, like, the Save the Puppies bill?

00:04:46.000 And then it actually just bans ice cream?

00:04:48.000 And you're like, what?

00:04:50.000 This bill must be about something else, right?

00:04:52.000 Certainly Democrats wouldn't vote. 0.89

00:04:54.000 To protect illegal immigrants who are convicted of sex crimes?

00:04:57.000 No.

00:04:58.000 Maybe they might.

00:05:00.000 They clearly don't think you should deport illegal pedophiles. 0.90

00:05:05.000 This is the insanity of what's taking place.

00:05:07.000 I mean, did you see Gavin Newsom recently and the Democrats in California have decided to put together this $50 million slush fund in which $25 million of it is going to be spent specifically to fight any deportation efforts?

00:05:17.000 Yeah, it's to protect illegal immigrants.

00:05:19.000 Right.

00:05:20.000 They have definitely decided...

00:05:21.000 Being kicked out by Tom Homan.

00:05:22.000 Yeah, they have definitely decided we are going to side with the $10 million plus illegals of which... 0.95

00:05:29.000 Not only do we have illegal immigrants convicted of sex crimes, illegal pedophiles, I think there's 660,000 illegal immigrants that have criminal records that have come in in the last four years.

00:05:39.000 And Democrats are siding with them over the American people.

00:05:43.000 You have to question.

00:05:46.000 I think that's exactly right.

00:05:50.000 You had Tom Homan very clearly saying that the way he was going to begin conducting deportations was to go to the jails and say, OK, if you have somebody who's been arrested for crimes, those are the people we're going to deport.

00:06:01.000 But the Democrats really have said repeatedly that they're not in favor of any deportations.

00:06:06.000 You even had Mayorkas saying that very clearly throughout all four years.

00:06:09.000 But why?

00:06:11.000 Because they say...

00:06:12.000 They're demons. 0.77

00:06:12.000 Well, they hate America. 0.77

00:06:13.000 They're demons. 0.99

00:06:14.000 They hate America. 0.99

00:06:15.000 No, no, no.

00:06:15.000 They really do.

00:06:16.000 They also have these logical reasons, which they say is that it would be too expensive to round people up and deport them.

00:06:22.000 They're opposed to this whole family separation thing, which, as we know, Tom Homan had quite the answer for, which was...

00:06:27.000 Keep them all together.

00:06:28.000 Just deport them all. 1.00

00:06:29.000 No, if you think about... 0.99

00:06:31.000 Well, first of all, it's because they hate America.

00:06:35.000 They hate our way of life.

00:06:36.000 If you think about it, what they are doing in destroying our border and our southern border and immigration system, if you can even call it an immigration system because it's such a mess, they don't want to have border security. 0.54

00:06:48.000 They don't want to have sovereignty.

00:06:49.000 They want to attack the very idea of what it means to be a citizen because they hate the American way of life.

00:06:55.000 I mean, we're very unique people with a very unique constitution.

00:06:58.000 We have very unique traditions.

00:07:00.000 And the American, un-American left, deeply hates and despises.

00:07:08.000 I really think that that point can't be...

00:07:11.000 Driven home hard enough, and I think that more people need to articulate that.

00:07:15.000 The left just ideologically does not like America.

00:07:19.000 They don't like representative government.

00:07:21.000 They want direct democracy.

00:07:22.000 They don't like the limitations on the government that the Constitution places.

00:07:27.000 They want a government that can do whatever they want because they believe that the government can, if you just give the government power, the government can do whatever.

00:07:35.000 They believe that the government could make the moon into green cheese if you just give them the power.

00:07:40.000 They don't think that the government can conduct deportations.

00:07:44.000 No, no, they do, but they won't admit that.

00:07:48.000 Well, you had Mayorkas. 1.00

00:07:49.000 He said, what exactly does it mean to remove an individual?

00:07:53.000 What resources?

00:07:54.000 What process?

00:07:55.000 What will the funding be?

00:07:56.000 What if they claim that they're afraid under current laws?

00:07:59.000 What process will they be given?

00:08:00.000 What judge grants their claim?

00:08:02.000 All of this stuff.

00:08:03.000 It's all about...

00:08:05.000 None of it is real.

00:08:07.000 That is all just about power.

00:08:09.000 They don't want the conservatives to do that, so they will come up with whatever excuse they possibly can.

00:08:18.000 It has nothing to do with what they actually believe because they...

00:08:22.000 They don't actually believe any of that.

00:08:25.000 And it can be done.

00:08:26.000 If there's a will, there's a way.

00:08:27.000 Of course.

00:08:27.000 And I think that Donald Trump is going to unleash Tom Homan and Stephen Miller to actually go after and begin doing this.

00:08:33.000 And the initial starting point is, are the illegals with criminal records?

00:08:37.000 That's the starting point.

00:08:38.000 And then he just keeps on going and doesn't stop until he's got at least the 10 or 12 million, whatever it is, that came in under Biden.

00:08:44.000 Because not only are they doing this because they hate our way of life, our Constitution, our traditions, all of these things, they were doing it to import new voters.

00:08:50.000 Let's be honest.

00:08:52.000 We're trying to bring in a completely new voter base.

00:08:56.000 And any Republican, and we all know that not all Republicans are created equally.

00:09:01.000 They come in all shapes, form sizes, Chamber of Commerce types, all the way to America First types.

00:09:07.000 Every last Republican, for the sake of self-preservation, should absolutely endorse the idea of deporting every last illegal that has come in over the last four years.

00:09:15.000 If they want to actually have a two-party system instead of being a single-party state.

00:09:19.000 Because that's exactly what Democrats are trying to do. 0.99

00:09:21.000 And the American people want that.

00:09:23.000 There have been multiple polls.

00:09:25.000 That's one of the main issues.

00:09:26.000 70% of the American people are comfortable with deportations.

00:09:29.000 Not just, okay, we're going to round up the criminals.

00:09:32.000 Go to jails and go to prisons and get the criminals that are not.

00:09:36.000 American citizens.

00:09:38.000 But they're comfortable with getting everyone that's not an American citizen and getting them out of the country. 1.00

00:09:44.000 And I think that that is perfectly reasonable for a population to have that position.

00:09:50.000 There is nothing extreme about a population that says, the people that are here must be citizens, and if you came into the country illegally, then we are empowered, or the government should be empowered, to physically remove you.

00:10:05.000 Well, as I think it was Obama so famously said, elections have consequences.

00:10:09.000 Absolutely.

00:10:10.000 Donald Trump won.

00:10:11.000 Donald Trump was not shy about what he intended to do in regards to illegal immigration and deportation.

00:10:18.000 And guess what?

00:10:19.000 First Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years.

00:10:22.000 First Republican to win 311 electoral votes since 1988, I believe.

00:10:27.000 And obviously the first non-successive president since Grover Cleveland.

00:10:31.000 This was a historical...

00:10:33.000 Election in which it was very bright, clear lines about what each one of the candidates was offering.

00:10:40.000 People saw what it was.

00:10:41.000 People remember what it was like.

00:10:43.000 They chose him definitively.

00:10:44.000 Exactly.

00:10:44.000 They remember what it was like when Donald Trump was president from 2017 to 2020. They remember what it was like from when Joe Biden got into office until today.

00:10:54.000 And they specifically made the decision, we don't like what the Democrats have been doing.

00:10:59.000 Can I say one thing?

00:11:00.000 This is the thing that has troubled me greatly about Republicans.

00:11:03.000 I've been in D.C. for about 25 years now.

00:11:06.000 Republicans don't know what to do with political power. 0.93

00:11:08.000 Most of them.

00:11:10.000 The American people give them political power for a reason.

00:11:14.000 Donald Trump is different from every other Republican because he understands I have been given political power.

00:11:19.000 I was voted in on very clear issues.

00:11:22.000 I fully intend to use the political power.

00:11:24.000 And I think he's going to have people around him in departments and agencies, once they're confirmed, that we'll have the exact same approach.

00:11:30.000 We were elected for a reason to actually affect change and use political power as it should be used.

00:11:35.000 I agree with you.

00:11:36.000 I think that's the proper diagnosis.

00:11:39.000 I think that it's the proper course of action by Donald Trump.

00:11:43.000 But just for context, I want to point out that the small government people are the Republicans.

00:11:50.000 Unless you're like...

00:11:53.000 Well, I mean, even if you're a small government person, you don't...

00:11:56.000 Even like the new people are MAGA. Well, yeah.

00:11:58.000 And historically, Republicans have been afraid to use, not unwilling to use government power because the argument has been, if we do it, then the left will do it.

00:12:07.000 Well, guess what?

00:12:08.000 The left is going to do it either way.

00:12:09.000 So you have to.

00:12:11.000 I used to be very, very libertarian-minded, and there's still some parts of my political opinions that are libertarian, but I've moved significantly away from libertarianism because of the fact that if you...

00:12:23.000 Just because one side says we don't want to use this power, there is no Mordor to throw the ring into.

00:12:29.000 There's nowhere to get rid of the power.

00:12:31.000 This is why I've been saying for the past couple of weeks, the slippery slope goes in every single direction.

00:12:36.000 If you do not use the power, they will use it in horrifying ways.

00:12:40.000 When you use the power, they're going to tell you, but the slippery slope, what if they start...

00:12:45.000 No, no, no, no. 0.98

00:12:46.000 We have to ban bad things that we don't like, like illegal immigrants who commit sex crimes gotta go. 1.00

00:12:50.000 Right. 0.98

00:12:51.000 One of my great frustrations...

00:12:53.000 The left views politics, the religious zealots, right? 0.86

00:12:57.000 It's their religion in many ways.

00:12:58.000 They are religious zealots.

00:12:59.000 We're going to take that political power and by God, we are going to fundamentally change this country.

00:13:03.000 Our problem has been, for too long until Donald Trump showed up, too many careerists in Republican circles were like, oh, we're going to go to D.C., we're going to have a really cool career, we'll trim around the edges, we're not going to really use power to fundamentally change anything, and then once we've had a cool career, we'll move on.

00:13:17.000 It's about time we had our own religious zealots or our own people that actually knew what to do with political power to fundamentally change and restore the republic.

00:13:26.000 The right has religious devotees.

00:13:30.000 And I would say historically, if you go back a long enough period of time, people were very fervent about maintaining those values.

00:13:37.000 But the reason we are where we are today is because Christians turned to the other cheek over and over and over again. 0.98

00:13:42.000 I think that's right.

00:13:42.000 Not this Christian.

00:13:43.000 Not you.

00:13:43.000 No.

00:13:44.000 There's a big streakable testament in me.

00:13:46.000 It was tolerance.

00:13:48.000 This is why I say it.

00:13:49.000 Once again, the slippery slope goes in every direction.

00:13:53.000 Christians very much said, we're going to leave people to do their thing and mind their business, and if they choose, they can find faith.

00:13:59.000 If not, whatever.

00:14:00.000 You end up with these books in schools, illegal immigrants who are convicted of sex crimes being protected by Democrats because you give them an inch, you'll take a mile. 0.86

00:14:11.000 And that's not justice.

00:14:12.000 It's not.

00:14:14.000 Yeah.

00:14:14.000 No, I mean, but it's not just the illegal immigrants who are being protected.

00:14:17.000 You have, you know, groomy teachers who are being protected.

00:14:20.000 You have, you know, sex offenders all over the place being protected.

00:14:22.000 But one thing that you said, Ned, that I think is really interesting is you said that, you know, to the left, politics is religion.

00:14:29.000 And to them, voting Democrat is like taking the Eucharist.

00:14:33.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:33.000 Like, it is a moral thing.

00:14:35.000 And they can't understand a world in which they have to go against that morality.

00:14:39.000 And I think one thing that we're seeing now with these L.A. fires is I think a lot of...

00:14:46.000 Maybe this wasn't the way to go.

00:14:49.000 They're religious people.

00:14:52.000 They have their own set of religious beliefs.

00:14:55.000 They're religious about their politics.

00:14:57.000 No, but I'm sorry.

00:14:58.000 Every human being in this world has a set of presuppositions and biases by which they view the world around them.

00:15:04.000 They have a set of creeds and beliefs by which they then judge something to be right or wrong.

00:15:09.000 Everyone worships, sure.

00:15:10.000 Right.

00:15:11.000 So the left has that.

00:15:12.000 And this is what really frustrates me in the whole world.

00:15:14.000 We believe in science.

00:15:15.000 Well, no, you don't really, because you don't even believe in basic biology.

00:15:18.000 But they have a certain faith system.

00:15:20.000 And their faith is built in the state.

00:15:22.000 They think the state is salvation.

00:15:23.000 It's something that you mentioned earlier, where, I mean, from the early beginning of the progressive movement, they...

00:15:28.000 Felt that all power, the state should subsume everything, individuals, corporations, because the state was salvation and would bring salvation to the rest of society.

00:15:37.000 That was even the advertising that they had for Obamacare.

00:15:39.000 The advertising for Obamacare was one lady partnered with the government for her whole life. 0.99

00:15:44.000 That's been their plan for the last hundred plus years.

00:15:47.000 And here we are.

00:15:48.000 And people, I think, have been a little confused since Donald Trump showed up.

00:15:52.000 What is going on in D.C.? Like, how did we end up where the duly elected president was essentially targeted by his DOJ, FBI, intel community to take out the duly elected president of the United States?

00:16:04.000 It was a clash of very different worldviews and governing philosophies, constitutional republic versus administrative state.

00:16:10.000 But people were wondering, why do these unelected bureaucrats think they should decide?

00:16:14.000 Well, that was the point from day one.

00:16:16.000 And it was Donald Trump showing up and saying, I reject the premise that this is legitimate, that has led to all this conflict.

00:16:22.000 If you were to look back over the last eight or nine years, all of the conflict, Russian collusion hoax, Ukrainian quid pro quo hoax, everything, political lawfare, it comes down to one thing.

00:16:31.000 Who decides?

00:16:33.000 And Donald Trump showed up and said, I'm the duly elected president of the United States.

00:16:35.000 I'm the one who decides.

00:16:37.000 And the unelected bureaucrats, the administrative state said, no, we don't think so.

00:16:40.000 We think we decide.

00:16:41.000 And actually, technically, they were right because of everything that's been going on the last hundred years.

00:16:46.000 Let's jump into the story from the Daily Wire.

00:16:48.000 It just gets worse.

00:16:49.000 Connecticut Parole Board pardons illegal migrant pedophile who said he might re-offend.

00:16:54.000 Indeed.

00:16:54.000 Take a look at this.

00:16:56.000 A convicted pedophile and illegal migrant was released from a Connecticut prison last month after a sympathetic parole board mulled how to best help him avoid deportation.

00:17:05.000 The Trump administration, the parole board decided, would not be able to get its act together fast enough to deport the illegal immigrant pedophile before his 30-day immigration detainer runs out.

00:17:14.000 They can't elect a Speaker of the House, one board member scoffed.

00:17:18.000 Gurino Maglore, or pronounce it, 52, was serving five years in prison for felony second-degree sexual assault against a child between 13 and 15 years old.

00:17:26.000 He was convicted of sexually assaulting the child on March 11, 2020, just as pandemic lockdowns were starting.

00:17:31.000 During his parole hearing...

00:17:33.000 He said he cannot promise he will not offend again.

00:17:39.000 Scored as a moderate to high risk on an evaluation used to predict whether a male sexual offender will re-offend.

00:17:45.000 Despite those red flags, the parole board released him that day from Carl Robinson Correctional Institution north of Hartford.

00:17:51.000 And once again, it's because they wanted to help him avoid getting deported.

00:17:55.000 That's insane to me.

00:17:56.000 This guy should just get, you know, we bring him to a plane, we put him on a plane and say, we're going to send you back to where you came from. 0.99

00:18:01.000 And you know what, the other thing too is like, he's probably shocked that he's not getting deported.

00:18:04.000 Because obviously he should get deported.

00:18:06.000 And he's probably like, these...

00:18:09.000 Not cursing. 1.00

00:18:10.000 These fools, you know, are just letting me back on the street so I can molest more children. 1.00

00:18:15.000 How exciting for me. 1.00

00:18:17.000 What idiots. 1.00

00:18:18.000 What morons. 1.00

00:18:18.000 Not only is it idiotic, asinine, it's deeply immoral. 1.00

00:18:22.000 Yes. 1.00

00:18:23.000 I mean, this is the one thing going back to what we were talking about earlier.

00:18:27.000 Nationalism is the moral imperative of every leader inside of a nation.

00:18:30.000 And by that I mean prioritizing the nation's interests and the people of that nation's interests.

00:18:35.000 In what world?

00:18:37.000 Does that prioritize the interests of our nation's people?

00:18:41.000 It does not.

00:18:42.000 And I think the immorality that we have seen on display, not only from Democrats and this kind of absurd, crazy, insane behavior, it's Republicans as well who have not prioritized the American people.

00:18:53.000 Well, I mean, I look at it largely as you go back a few generations, and the further you go back, the more Christian this nation was.

00:19:01.000 The previous generations were turning the other cheek, tolerating behavior like this.

00:19:04.000 And this is my point about the slippery slope.

00:19:06.000 It exists.

00:19:07.000 It exists no matter what you do.

00:19:09.000 So right now, with the Supreme Court makeup that we have, and the policies that are advancing, it seems to me like Obergefell will get overturned.

00:19:16.000 Would you agree on that one?

00:19:18.000 I think so.

00:19:18.000 I think there's some cases that I hope the Trump administration begins pushing immediately.

00:19:26.000 But they don't even need to.

00:19:28.000 A liberal group will file a lawsuit on behalf of someone.

00:19:31.000 It'll get challenged to a federal court, the Supreme Court.

00:19:34.000 It will have to do with the president of Obergefell, and the Supreme Court will say, we hereby overturn Obergefell.

00:19:39.000 Gay marriage is no longer recognized in states unless they pass it in their legislators.

00:19:43.000 I wouldn't mind some of these cases being accelerated by the Trump administration actually generating some of these challenges ASAP. I think I would like to see Bostock overturned before Obergefell.

00:19:56.000 You know what I want to see happen?

00:19:58.000 All of it?

00:19:59.000 No, day one.

00:20:01.000 I'm serious.

00:20:01.000 I think this is going to be one of the most important things that takes place in the four years we have Trump, and hopefully we have power for 12 years, but we'll settle for four for right now.

00:20:09.000 Trump needs to fire hundreds of thousands of federal employees.

00:20:12.000 And begin the process by which he goes through the courts.

00:20:17.000 He'll do that.

00:20:18.000 The federal employee unions, which is insane.

00:20:21.000 There shouldn't even be unions for government.

00:20:24.000 FDR agreed with us, by the way.

00:20:26.000 That's absolutely insane.

00:20:28.000 They'll sue.

00:20:29.000 They'll be a stay.

00:20:30.000 18 months, 2 years, gets to the Supreme Court.

00:20:32.000 This is the Supreme Court, and the fundamental question is this.

00:20:35.000 Does the head of the Article II executive branch, the duly elected president of the United States, get to hire and fire whoever he wants to inside the Article II branch where most of the administrative state resides?

00:20:45.000 And I think the Supreme Court will say, yes, we agree with you.

00:20:48.000 And then Donald Trump can become the demolition man for the administrative state.

00:20:52.000 But he's got to move on it quick, because I think 18 months to two years might be a short route.

00:20:57.000 It might be longer.

00:20:58.000 That's what Nancy Mace was saying.

00:20:59.000 What's your opinion on getting the bureaucracies?

00:21:01.000 I love it.

00:21:05.000 I want to send agriculture to North Dakota.

00:21:08.000 You mean like how Facebook moved content moderation to Texas?

00:21:13.000 We know that when corporations move their headquarters simply by moving them about 20% of the workforce, it's downsized simply by moving the headquarters.

00:21:24.000 So yeah, move agriculture to North Dakota, move another department to Kansas. 0.83

00:21:31.000 And break apart the Leviathan that's residing in D.C. right now.

00:21:35.000 And by doing that, I think you reduce it by 20% right out of the gate.

00:21:39.000 Astounding.

00:21:40.000 And I think Trump might actually go for that approach.

00:21:43.000 I think there is kind of all of the above approach in regards to we have to deal with this bureaucracy.

00:21:49.000 I think it is the thing.

00:21:50.000 I think a lot of the issues that we're facing today in D.C., but the country writ large.

00:21:56.000 Have to deal with this massive bureaucracy that thinks it's going to dictate to the American people.

00:22:01.000 This is how you're going to live your life.

00:22:02.000 Well, yeah, and they've been doing that for a while.

00:22:04.000 And they haven't just been doing it in the U.S., but under the Biden administration and Obama, they were doing that globally.

00:22:09.000 They were tying all kinds of funds to like, okay, now you have, now Hungary, you have a whole LGBTQ thing.

00:22:17.000 And when the people in those nations push back, the administrations get angry and start working with the subversive groups in that country to push their agenda forward.

00:22:28.000 I remember I was at a UN... Isn't it interesting how America, the position that we have in the world right now, we can either be a great force for good...

00:22:49.000 Or evil.

00:22:50.000 Or we can be a force for evil.

00:22:51.000 And we've been evil just too much.

00:22:53.000 We have.

00:22:54.000 And we've gone in and we have started to deconstruct the moral and cultural fabric of these various countries because of the woke mind virus that has taken over in these bureaucracies in which they decide we're going to dictate not only to this country but to others around the world with obviously strings attached to funding and to grants that you're going to actually implement these woke agendas.

00:23:17.000 Because we say so.

00:23:19.000 I think a lot of it has to do with the complete demolition of religion.

00:23:23.000 Yes.

00:23:24.000 You know, because if you look at the way that religion was practiced, the way that Orthodox...

00:23:28.000 This is something I was just reading about.

00:23:29.000 Orthodox Christianity.

00:23:30.000 The way that, like, Orthodox religion is practiced, you know, Orthodox religion, Orthodox Judaism, you make...

00:23:36.000 Everything in your life has to do with how you practice your faith, and so everything...

00:23:41.000 Every basic thing is imbued with meaning, and so you go out into the world with confidence that you are practicing a life that is full of meaning and hope and faith just because of those small gestures.

00:23:52.000 And when we take that away, we're all just out here struggling, trying to find meaning in something or other, and nobody can find it anywhere, and so they do this nonsense.

00:24:01.000 I think it was Sartre, a French philosopher, who said a finite point without an infinite point of reference is pointless and absurd.

00:24:09.000 And when you cut the cord to the transcendent, you do eventually devolve into this theater of the absurd in which you just make up things as you go.

00:24:17.000 There aren't any absolutes.

00:24:19.000 I think at some point, it was Francis Schaeffer, who I love, who once said, if there are no absolutes, society becomes absolute.

00:24:26.000 And whatever society says at that moment is what is.

00:24:28.000 Well, and his play, Sartre's play, No Exit, exemplified that.

00:24:32.000 So I think we do have to come.

00:24:34.000 I mean, this country was founded.

00:24:36.000 On a common set of ideals and principles and values.

00:24:38.000 And it would be nice if we got back to that where we get a basic agreement on fundamental issues in which we say these are right, these are wrong.

00:24:44.000 This is what the country was founded on.

00:24:46.000 If the government exists to facilitate a happy, successful, and fulfilled population, why doesn't it focus on normal families?

00:24:59.000 I have my own intuition as to why, but like...

00:25:04.000 The idea of centering the marginalized, marginalized lifestyles, you should be focusing on normal families, especially when everyone knows that the birth rate in the U.S. is on the decline and has been.

00:25:21.000 Demographic winter.

00:25:22.000 We should be doing everything that we can to encourage the population to have more kids, and we should have policies that...

00:25:30.000 And lefties' minds are going to melt when I say this, but we should look at Hungary's approach to what they're doing with policy.

00:25:37.000 Again, this goes back to when you have political power, why don't you use it to actually implement things that are beneficial to society and actually cause fundamental change?

00:25:45.000 I think Hungary spends about 5% of its GDP on actually promoting policies that strengthen the family, encourage growth of the family, and you're seeing it play out in their society.

00:25:56.000 I'm like, we should do the same.

00:25:58.000 We should spend a certain percentage of our GDP towards actually strengthening and promoting the traditional family and actually strengthening families, strong fathers, mothers, strong households.

00:26:10.000 This isn't an argument against Social Security or against the...

00:26:14.000 We can spend some money on young people trying to encourage them to have children and raise them in a way that makes them want to have children of their own.

00:26:32.000 Libby, there was something you said about the idea of orthodox religion being in our lives.

00:26:40.000 One of the things that, of course, Christianity, I think Judaism, and some of the other Orthodox religions teach is the idea of self-governance.

00:26:49.000 And I remind people all of the time, we are a self-governing Republican.

00:26:53.000 People think, well, that's great.

00:26:54.000 The American people are governing themselves.

00:26:56.000 Well, self-government is based off individual self-governance.

00:27:00.000 And the idea of actually having a faith and religious influence on the idea that, yeah, at some point, someday, you're going to have to give an accounting.

00:27:10.000 To a transcendent creator, there are eternal rewards and punishments for that behavior.

00:27:16.000 The idea of self-governance then leads to better self-government in which people are governing themselves.

00:27:21.000 And the more people govern themselves internally, the less government you're going to need to actually bring order.

00:27:27.000 But we don't do that now.

00:27:28.000 I mean, that's like, you know, we were talking about a little bit like that before the show.

00:27:32.000 We've eradicated the notion of shame.

00:27:34.000 We've elevated our most base desires to our entitled right.

00:27:39.000 Right?

00:27:39.000 Like, that's what we believe.

00:27:41.000 Celebrated it.

00:27:42.000 Yeah, we've celebrated it.

00:27:43.000 We, you know, one thing that we've inherited from reality TV shows is this idea that if you don't like someone, you should be a total horror to them all the time.

00:27:52.000 You should just be mean to them to their face. 0.97

00:27:54.000 And that's ridiculous, too. 0.99

00:27:56.000 You know, there's this idea that you're supposed to show up at Thanksgiving and be nasty to your family because you disagree with them about federal politics. 0.99

00:28:02.000 I mean, come on. 1.00

00:28:03.000 Like, is there anything more stupid than arguing with your family over federal politics? 1.00

00:28:07.000 I feel blessed. 1.00

00:28:08.000 It's ridiculous. 0.86

00:28:09.000 Because I've got liberal family members and they aren't insane and it doesn't come up. 0.96

00:28:12.000 We just eat turkey.

00:28:13.000 I think that's good.

00:28:15.000 You know what it is, though?

00:28:16.000 I do think it's the older generation, the grandparents, who are just like, stop, shut up, we're not doing this.

00:28:23.000 And I have concerns for when they pass on.

00:28:26.000 What's going to end up happening?

00:28:27.000 Because I do think a lot of the political bifurcation in this country, it's massive in the younger generations.

00:28:33.000 It's moderate in the millennial, middle-aged generations, Gen Xers.

00:28:37.000 And then it is almost not existent in the oldest generations.

00:28:41.000 So if you look back at when boomers were in their 30s or whatever, which is like, what, the 90s, the differences between the Democrat and Republican Party were slim.

00:28:50.000 You look today, it's massive.

00:28:52.000 And despite the fact that the parties are...

00:28:54.000 Still largely run by the same people.

00:28:56.000 You do have younger people coming in, and the younger people tend to be the firebrands. 0.96

00:29:01.000 Yep.

00:29:02.000 Totally on opposite ends, not getting along.

00:29:04.000 So when the older generation moves on...

00:29:06.000 I don't know what happens in this country.

00:29:08.000 I mean, maybe right now with the concern I have is Donald Trump only won because of one generation.

00:29:13.000 And you know what generation that was?

00:29:14.000 Gen X. That's right.

00:29:15.000 That's right.

00:29:15.000 We saved the world, baby.

00:29:17.000 Sure did.

00:29:18.000 And so Gen X is going to have to hold on with a death grip.

00:29:21.000 That's right.

00:29:21.000 And double down for the next 10 or 20 years because boomers will be leaving us.

00:29:26.000 I got my keys around my neck.

00:29:27.000 Can I say one thing?

00:29:28.000 Gen Z and Gen Alpha, man, we need to make sure that these kids get access to good, clean information.

00:29:32.000 And as an aside, I'm looking forward to seeing TikTok go belly up.

00:29:36.000 I don't think it's happening.

00:29:38.000 It's a drive-by shooting on TikTok.

00:29:40.000 I don't think it is.

00:29:41.000 The Biden administration said they were going to leave it to the Trump administration to enforce the ban.

00:29:45.000 TikTok is choosing to shut down.

00:29:46.000 Yeah.

00:29:47.000 They're shutting down anyway?

00:29:48.000 They're choosing to shut down.

00:29:49.000 There's no bill forcing to shut down.

00:29:51.000 What do you think the Supreme Court's going to say?

00:29:53.000 I think they're going to...

00:29:54.000 Decision day was Wednesday.

00:29:56.000 Yeah, but they didn't decide.

00:29:58.000 Right, which means that nothing's going to happen until TikTok makes a decision to shut down.

00:30:01.000 Interesting.

00:30:02.000 They could theoretically do a preliminary injunction, but it sounds like...

00:30:05.000 It sounds like the Supreme Court was saying, why would we...

00:30:08.000 Yeah, they don't think the algorithm is speech.

00:30:11.000 They don't think...

00:30:11.000 No, no, China doesn't have free speech.

00:30:13.000 That's it, period.

00:30:13.000 But they didn't buy it.

00:30:14.000 The Supreme Court did not buy TikTok's argument.

00:30:17.000 Right, but the Supreme Court, many of the members actually said, yet no, China has no constitutional protected speech.

00:30:23.000 It doesn't matter.

00:30:24.000 The algorithm is meaningless.

00:30:25.000 We don't give foreign countries free speech rights from foreign countries into the United States. 0.92

00:30:30.000 So anyway, I digress.

00:30:31.000 I was not trying to reignite the whole TikTok thing.

00:30:34.000 No.

00:30:34.000 I'm happy to talk about it.

00:30:35.000 I think it's fascinating.

00:30:36.000 I listen to all those arguments.

00:30:38.000 Well, we can, but I want to talk about this.

00:30:40.000 We got this clip from Real Clear Politics.

00:30:42.000 Ladies and gentlemen, you want to watch...

00:30:44.000 Let me say this.

00:30:45.000 Elizabeth Warren was challenging Pete Hegseth.

00:30:48.000 Why are we in the weeds on politics on this one?

00:30:51.000 And she was basically like, you think generals shouldn't serve for 10 years and you won't make that pledge today?

00:30:57.000 And Hegseth is just like, I'm not a general.

00:30:59.000 Oh, make money.

00:31:00.000 They can't for 10 years be lobbyists, 10-year moratorium.

00:31:05.000 And she asked him if he would make the pledge, and he's like, I'm not a general.

00:31:08.000 And then everyone laughs at her.

00:31:09.000 I was in the room.

00:31:10.000 It was hilarious.

00:31:11.000 Yes.

00:31:12.000 Now, that is an example.

00:31:12.000 I give you another one.

00:31:14.000 This one is Senator Ron Wyden, who makes a ridiculous claim and instantly gets roasted in a rather hilarious way. 0.72

00:31:22.000 Speaking of China.

00:31:24.000 The more you reduce carbon, the bigger your tax savings.

00:31:26.000 Now there is a big effort in the Trump administration to reverse it.

00:31:31.000 I think that's going to be bad for the economy, but it is going to be damn good for China because we are in an arms race on clean energy with them. 0.98

00:31:39.000 Are you going to be on the side of people who want to unravel this?

00:31:43.000 Senator Wyden, just so we can frame this for everyone in the room, China will build a hundred new coal plants this year.

00:31:55.000 There is not a clean energy race.

00:31:57.000 There is an energy race.

00:31:59.000 China will build 10 nuclear plants this year.

00:32:02.000 That is not solar.

00:32:04.000 I am in favor of more nuclear plants.

00:32:08.000 And I would note that the IRA, as scored by the CBO, is wildly out of control in terms of spending on the upside.

00:32:20.000 It's just so great.

00:32:22.000 It was great.

00:32:23.000 China is not trying to do clean anything. 0.97

00:32:26.000 No.

00:32:26.000 But they are trying.

00:32:27.000 The irony here is, well, first of all, I'm happy that he said nuclear.

00:32:32.000 He's all for it.

00:32:34.000 I think that is our future.

00:32:35.000 If you really want clean energy, that's what we've got to start.

00:32:38.000 Our approach has to be.

00:32:40.000 The interesting thing about this whole we're in a clean energy race.

00:32:43.000 China has no interest, clearly.

00:32:45.000 They're building 100 coal plants, all this stuff.

00:32:47.000 What they're trying to do is get everybody else to go onto the solar and the EVs, because guess what?

00:32:53.000 They're the ones that are actually producing a lot of those things.

00:32:56.000 That's right.

00:32:57.000 And then all of a sudden you become dependent on China.

00:32:59.000 You guys see this picture?

00:33:01.000 This story was posted in 2014. This is virtual sunlight in Tiananmen Square.

00:33:08.000 Instead of seeing a sunrise, they put up a gigantic screen to show a sunrise because the smog is so bad.

00:33:15.000 China's not doing clean anything. 0.71

00:33:17.000 They don't care.

00:33:18.000 Their attitude is largely, quote, it's our turn now.

00:33:20.000 You industrialized, now we industrialize, and you can't stop us.

00:33:24.000 Yeah, I said this a couple times on the show.

00:33:26.000 It's like, if people in the United States are actually that concerned with the green revolution or whatever, then you don't want to focus your attention here.

00:33:37.000 You want to focus your attention on India and China, because both of those countries have 1.5 billion people, and they are not fully industrialized.

00:33:45.000 Well, the other thing, too, when the U.S. says we're going to pull back on our climate, we're going to pull back on our emissions and all of that stuff, it's just another way to say we are going to subsume ourselves to minorities globally, except they're not minorities. 0.95

00:33:58.000 We're the minority globally.

00:34:00.000 I think we need to start looking at energy policy as a national security issue.

00:34:05.000 I think that's a great idea.

00:34:06.000 No, we have to, because if you actually, of your own...

00:34:10.000 You capitulate and say, we're going to go down the EV path, we're going to do solar, all of these things.

00:34:16.000 Again, I think it's 90 plus percent China is actually producing in the world market of EV batteries and I think solar panels as well.

00:34:23.000 You are going to basically subject yourself because they will be providing your energy if we go down that path, God forbid.

00:34:32.000 And then all of a sudden...

00:34:33.000 Energy policy is national security, and there is no national security.

00:34:37.000 Like, at some point, we have to get these people who are pushing us to go down this path and say, you are pushing us down a path of being subservient to China, not the distant future, sadly, in a relatively short term, if we're not careful. 0.59

00:34:51.000 That's an argument that I heard Marco Rubio making today, that if we don't do something, then...

00:34:56.000 He probably wasn't making it today.

00:34:58.000 He probably made it on Monday or whatever.

00:34:59.000 But if we don't do something about our posture towards China We're gonna be depending on China for things that we desperately need like all our medications all kinds of things It penicillin I'm trying to remember what it is But like 90% of our penicillin for the army for the military is produced by China all that's anything that we Like there's just so much stuff that is actually a national security issue.

00:35:20.000 And this is why I think Tic Tacs gotta go gotta go.

00:35:24.000 I don't disagree get rid of it.

00:35:25.000 No, I mean just divest from China. 0.85

00:35:28.000 It's really simple.

00:35:30.000 Look.

00:35:30.000 There's a lot of people out there who say Trump is altruistic, and he is motivated purely by the goodness of his own heart, and I'm like, well, hold on there a minute.

00:35:38.000 Donald Trump certainly is motivated, but I think he's a good guy.

00:35:40.000 I've seen him be nice to people.

00:35:41.000 He's been nice to me.

00:35:42.000 He's very...

00:35:43.000 I think he's a nice guy.

00:35:44.000 Genuinely warm person.

00:35:45.000 He is, but he's a human being who wants to accomplish things and feel good about the things he accomplishes.

00:35:51.000 He's a guy who puts his name in giant gold letters on tops of buildings.

00:35:54.000 You've seen his signature.

00:35:55.000 It's a beautiful, beautiful signature.

00:35:59.000 So TikTok realizes censorship is coming their way.

00:36:04.000 Conservatives are upset about it.

00:36:05.000 So what do they do?

00:36:07.000 They put a flip on it, help Trump out a little bit, make Trump happy, and now Trump's backed off banning TikTok.

00:36:12.000 I don't care who they're helping.

00:36:14.000 I do not like the idea of China having influence over our younger generation.

00:36:18.000 I agree.

00:36:18.000 I don't like it.

00:36:19.000 The only reason Trump won is because of Gen X, not because of Gen Z. And now Trump's going, You know, I think maybe he invites the CEO of TikTok to his inauguration, says maybe we should hold off on banning it.

00:36:31.000 And I'm like, here we go.

00:36:32.000 Trump's going to get out of office.

00:36:34.000 TikTok's going to go tenfold in the other direction.

00:36:36.000 And we are all going to be worse off because of it.

00:36:39.000 I'm hoping.

00:36:40.000 I think fundamentally at its very core, Donald Trump is an old school.

00:36:45.000 I love America.

00:36:46.000 I love everything that has made this country great.

00:36:49.000 I want to do everything that will return us to.

00:36:52.000 Greatness.

00:36:53.000 I think at some point he's going to wake up and realize...

00:36:56.000 I think it's Kellyanne, to be honest.

00:36:58.000 I think Kellyanne Conway has been pushing some of this.

00:37:00.000 Really?

00:37:00.000 For pro TikTok?

00:37:02.000 Yeah.

00:37:03.000 So...

00:37:04.000 Why do you think that is?

00:37:06.000 I think she's probably getting a consulting fee from them, from what I've seen.

00:37:10.000 I think she's actually a lobbyist for them.

00:37:12.000 She's also taking money from Ukrainians and all that stuff. 1.00

00:37:14.000 Wow.

00:37:16.000 Yeah.

00:37:17.000 Yeah, there's a problem with some folks in which...

00:37:21.000 It's not, it's, they're taking money from interesting sources.

00:37:24.000 That all to say, I think Trump's instincts are going to kick back in when he realizes, I have to be consistent across the board on the issue of China.

00:37:33.000 And I think TikTok is part of that being consistent, right?

00:37:36.000 Got it.

00:37:36.000 No, we're not doing this.

00:37:38.000 Yeah.

00:37:38.000 At some point, it's going to kick back in.

00:37:40.000 The concern that I have is TikTok doesn't allow, or China doesn't allow TikTok in their own country.

00:37:46.000 That's a red flag right there.

00:37:51.000 Tic Tac in their own country.

00:37:52.000 Why?

00:37:53.000 I think it's a weapon against young people. 0.99

00:37:55.000 Even if 30% of the content is woke, they know they're creating an economic drag to the tune of 30% of the young people who follow that crackpot ideology, even if it's 5%. 0.63

00:38:05.000 Now, don't get me wrong, in the United States, X... Facebook, YouTube, they have the same garbage ideology, but Americans are allowed to have that ideology.

00:38:13.000 What we don't want is our foreign adversaries fanning the flames of an illogical, broken mental state that is wokeness, so that our young people grow up, and we end up with a story about a councilwoman in Massachusetts who's taking a month of leave because she's been misgendered. 0.98

00:38:30.000 They've been misgendered. 0.87

00:38:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:38:33.000 Wokeness is weakness.

00:38:36.000 No, I agree with this.

00:38:38.000 Pushed this to an extreme degree until Trump said, let's ban it. 1.00

00:38:41.000 And then they kissed Trump's ass and now Trump says, let's keep it. 0.99

00:38:47.000 No, I think we should pull the thread a little bit on the whole wokeness is weakness. 1.00

00:38:51.000 I mean, wokeness on energy policy is weakness.

00:38:54.000 Again, going back to national security.

00:38:56.000 But this whole idea of weakening, it's the mind virus in our younger generations and weakening them in the face of, I mean, I think we're in for some pretty challenging times.

00:39:06.000 On the international stage.

00:39:08.000 Trump had an executive order in his first term to ban TikTok.

00:39:12.000 Yes.

00:39:12.000 And then it got blocked.

00:39:15.000 Yeah, it got blocked.

00:39:15.000 And it was only after October 7th when TikTok for some...

00:39:20.000 So basically what happens is there was a very small footprint of Israel-Palestine content and then seemingly over the course of a single weekend it jumped to be two to one pro-Palestine.

00:39:31.000 All of a sudden you get this anti-Israel content and...

00:39:35.000 Democrats and Republicans are like, uh-oh, you know, because they love Israel.

00:39:38.000 Now, I'm not here to make an argument on Israel-Palestine.

00:39:41.000 The point is, I don't care who you are.

00:39:42.000 China should not be implementing algorithms that manipulate the worldview of the American people.

00:39:48.000 I don't like that corporations do it.

00:39:50.000 The U.S. government shouldn't do it.

00:39:51.000 Yet here we are.

00:39:52.000 One quick thing.

00:39:54.000 Super Chatter Ian said, anyone else notice Tim mirroring Trump?

00:39:56.000 I'm literally impersonating him.

00:39:58.000 That was the joke.

00:40:00.000 I'm doing the Trump hands when I'm talking about Donald Trump.

00:40:03.000 Kellyanne Conway advocating for TikTok on Capitol Hill March of 2024 from Politico.

00:40:10.000 And what was her daughter doing?

00:40:12.000 Probably doing like...

00:40:14.000 Anti-Israel stuff on TikTok?

00:40:16.000 No, she was doing a lot of the social media stuff and was heavily criticized for what she was posting. 0.95

00:40:23.000 I'm telling you, there are some people that are taking some very weird consulting contracts that need to be watched.

00:40:29.000 There's a lot of pro-China stuff that's ended up in my ex-feed in the past couple days, ever since the whole Red Book came out.

00:40:37.000 What's the deal with this Red Book thing?

00:40:38.000 Have you guys signed up for it?

00:40:40.000 No!

00:40:40.000 It's just another app.

00:40:41.000 Just like a Chinese data capture.

00:40:43.000 I will keep it simple, and with all due respect to Bobby Sauce, who was on the show yesterday, we ended up doing this 30-minute-long debate over the issue of TikTok, of which he was not as informed as I. I mean that with no disrespect.

00:40:57.000 He didn't read the bill in a long time.

00:40:59.000 He wasn't familiar with the provisions that were in it, and he wasn't familiar with how TikTok worked or what the bands were, the timeline on these bands.

00:41:07.000 And so my point was just literally...

00:41:10.000 I believe that he exemplifies exactly why we have to shut China's interest in TikTok down immediately. 0.96

00:41:17.000 The bill is correct.

00:41:18.000 All they have to do is divest.

00:41:19.000 The app can stay.

00:41:21.000 Whatever.

00:41:22.000 But you end up with a guy defending Chinese interests.

00:41:27.000 The debate was not TikTok should be banned outright goodbye.

00:41:32.000 The debate was foreign adversaries should be...

00:41:36.000 At the demand of Congress, with congressional power, forced to divest from American media.

00:41:41.000 That's what the bill does.

00:41:43.000 He argued against that.

00:41:45.000 And the question that Raymond had and I had over and over again is, why should China be allowed to own a mass media program in the United States? 0.59

00:41:53.000 The answer is there's zero reasons.

00:41:56.000 Yeah, there's zero reasons.

00:41:57.000 So when you can convince an individual to go on a massive news show and advocate wholeheartedly for Chinese interests, you can see the effect of Chinese propaganda in real time.

00:42:09.000 It's literally that.

00:42:11.000 Vehicle for injecting their propaganda or their...

00:42:13.000 I mean, the thing that's a little scary, they play the 100-year game.

00:42:17.000 Yeah.

00:42:18.000 So, of course, they're good.

00:42:19.000 They're going to take this slow, and if it's 30%, like you were saying, they're going to start weakening the woke mind virus, pumping it into the young generations.

00:42:29.000 Maybe it causes effects 10 years, 20, 30 years from now, but they're playing the 100-year game.

00:42:33.000 We're allowing them to have a vehicle for propaganda to inject it into young American minds.

00:42:39.000 I know a lot of Republicans, staffers, and members on the Senate side are definitely for, like, we need to actually address TikTok in a forceful way.

00:42:49.000 So I'm kind of curious to see how this plays out in the first six months of the Trump administration.

00:42:53.000 Well, the argument is that Donald Trump will use an executive order to suspend enforcement action against TikTok, which technically could work.

00:43:01.000 I don't think it will.

00:43:02.000 I could be wrong.

00:43:03.000 The issue is that there are fines attached to this bill.

00:43:07.000 Apple and Google would be on the hook.

00:43:09.000 As private companies...

00:43:11.000 You're going to be hard-pressed as an insurer or as a business owner to say, I'm willing to open myself up to massive liability under the promise that Trump decided he won't enforce a law that we're breaking.

00:43:21.000 Four years after Trump leaves, those fines will be on the books, and Apple and Google will be on the hook for those fines should another president decide to enforce the action at that point.

00:43:29.000 So when this law kicks in, the Supreme Court has not stopped it.

00:43:32.000 It doesn't matter if Trump says I won't enforce against it if Apple and Google say, yeah, well, we don't want to be involved in whatever that is.

00:43:39.000 Not to mention, these other big tech platforms might say, hey, we don't want China competing with us in this space.

00:43:46.000 We want to control the data, so we will happily take it down and use you as the excuse as why we had to.

00:43:52.000 Yep.

00:43:53.000 Yeah.

00:43:53.000 I mean, I don't...

00:43:55.000 I think that it's more than just the influence.

00:43:58.000 I think that it's probably an espionage tool.

00:44:01.000 More than just being able to...

00:44:03.000 They backdoor everything.

00:44:04.000 Yeah, more than just being able to influence what people think and kind of fomenting anti-American sentiment, which it absolutely does.

00:44:12.000 You can hear people complaining about the United States.

00:44:16.000 Was it on TikTok where all of a sudden Osama bin Laden...

00:44:19.000 Was that the whole push going on TikTok that somehow Osama bin Laden wasn't a bad guy, actually? 1.00

00:44:24.000 Yeah.

00:44:24.000 This is insane to me.

00:44:25.000 Yeah, that was insane.

00:44:26.000 The argument...

00:44:27.000 He went back to his Guardian letter.

00:44:29.000 The bin Laden letter was circulating and going viral, and this is the point. 0.99

00:44:34.000 Young people don't know the context. 1.00

00:44:37.000 Many of the people that were posting this weren't alive on 9-11, and I mean, with no disrespect to these young people.

00:44:42.000 So they don't know the history.

00:44:44.000 They didn't experience it.

00:44:46.000 China...

00:44:47.000 Through TikTok, begins then promoting this in their algorithm.

00:44:50.000 So, here's what happens.

00:44:52.000 Young people don't read the letter, do the research, come back and say, here's my historical assessment on the Bin Laden letter.

00:44:59.000 They say, hey, whoa, this guy got a million views for praising Osama Bin Laden.

00:45:04.000 Right.

00:45:05.000 So then they make a video where they do the exact same thing, repeat the exact same lines, and then what happens?

00:45:11.000 Some 17-year-old kid in high school opens the app and he sees a wall of posts.

00:45:16.000 Bin Laden was right over and over and over again with millions upon millions of views.

00:45:19.000 We need to shut this down.

00:45:21.000 The idea that Trump would defend this.

00:45:23.000 Trump needs someone to talk to him for real.

00:45:26.000 He's got Elon Musk right there.

00:45:28.000 Elon should be like, yeah, dude, look.

00:45:30.000 Elon goes a different route on this one.

00:45:32.000 Okay?

00:45:33.000 We don't want China doing that stuff. 1.00

00:45:34.000 I think it's weird too that he just reversed it and it was just because after the election because he used TikTok during the election.

00:45:41.000 A lot of people use TikTok.

00:45:42.000 A lot of conservative influencers use TikTok during the election and now they're not talking about how TikTok should be shut down.

00:45:48.000 Meanwhile, in the first term, I remember that...

00:45:50.000 That executive order, it was what, like, was it like September 2020, maybe, was when the executive order was to ban TikTok?

00:45:59.000 And I was like, this seems like a really good idea.

00:46:01.000 Everyone was super in favor of it, and now it's just like a complete about-face.

00:46:05.000 Well, let's jump to this story from Kotaku.

00:46:08.000 Ooh, one of our favorite stories.

00:46:11.000 That's right.

00:46:12.000 Elon Musk and Asmongold are fighting after the streamer accused him of being a fake gamer.

00:46:18.000 Fans have called BS on Musk's path of exile to obsession.

00:46:22.000 Okay, let's slow down there, friends.

00:46:24.000 Many of you watching this show may be like, you guys know the meme where the guy said, I'm 50 and all celebrity news looks like this?

00:46:31.000 Curtains for Zushka?

00:46:33.000 Batboy flips a grunt or whatever?

00:46:35.000 This is what a lot of people are, I saw a lot of people post this and they were like, they posted the meme next to it and I'm like, it's very good.

00:46:41.000 Let me give you the English version.

00:46:43.000 Elon Musk is accused of censoring people, censoring an individual who criticized his video gameplay and accused him of cheating.

00:46:50.000 Thus, the owner of one of the largest social media platforms has been accused of censoring conservatives over H1B and now an individual who impugned his honor.

00:47:00.000 I don't know that it's actually exactly true or what happened.

00:47:04.000 But Asmund Gold, a prominent YouTuber with millions of subscribers, saw his verified checkmark disappear while he was sleeping, I guess, and then come back later.

00:47:14.000 To be fair, I do find that kind of hilarious.

00:47:18.000 That Elon Musk was just like sitting there at Twitter HQ and he's like, delete, you're verified.

00:47:23.000 And then a few hours later he was like, ah crap, and put it back.

00:47:25.000 It's actually kind of funny. 0.85

00:47:26.000 It is funny.

00:47:27.000 And it's transparent.

00:47:28.000 The accusation I suppose is, or I should say the concern is, that Elon Musk is abusing his power as the owner of this platform and going after his critics.

00:47:36.000 I think it was funny. 0.51

00:47:39.000 It's silly and petty stuff. 0.59

00:47:41.000 He did leak DMs, too. 0.95

00:47:43.000 That's bad.

00:47:44.000 That I legit think is bad.

00:47:45.000 I don't think you should ever leak DMs.

00:47:48.000 I think that's rude.

00:47:49.000 And to be honest with you, there's a lot of stuff that Elon's done lately that I really wish that he hadn't done.

00:47:54.000 H-1B visa stuff?

00:47:56.000 I mean, not so much that.

00:47:57.000 The way that he got into the H-1B visa argument, yes. 0.94

00:48:01.000 But banning a lot of people, even some of the real scumbags that are annoying on X, I don't think that...

00:48:07.000 It's good to ban people and stuff like that, mostly because it gives the people that don't like him and would love to say, oh, he's not really this.

00:48:17.000 It gives them something to talk about.

00:48:20.000 So I think he should...

00:48:21.000 If I were him, I would just ignore them and leave it alone. 0.95

00:48:26.000 But this is just silly. 0.89

00:48:28.000 So, I mean...

00:48:29.000 Yeah, the H-1B thing was interesting because it certainly looked like for a long period of time there was an attempt to get Elon Musk and Donald Trump to fight each other.

00:48:37.000 Right.

00:48:37.000 To get MAGA to go after him.

00:48:39.000 And then sure enough when this controversy pops up, certainly a lot of people went to war over it.

00:48:45.000 I do believe there was a campaign, an op as it were.

00:48:50.000 And it works really well.

00:48:52.000 It's a hard thing to navigate because what happens is...

00:48:54.000 So you think somebody was facilitating...

00:48:57.000 Trying to gin up to fracture America first over the topic of H-1P visas. 0.91

00:49:04.000 I would say it is based on the evidence I've seen, extremely likely, that there were bot accounts attacking people and posting abhorrently racist things targeting Elon.

00:49:17.000 To try and create a rift.

00:49:18.000 It's fascinating to me.

00:49:20.000 The narrative the week before was that the corporate press was trying to create a rift between Trump and Elon.

00:49:25.000 They're running these stories saying Donald Trump secretly is angry at Elon saying these things about him.

00:49:29.000 And then Trump supporters are posting Elon and Trump aren't going to fall for it.

00:49:33.000 Then all of a sudden...

00:49:34.000 You get a bunch of accounts that are not verified, and they're posting very racist things.

00:49:39.000 They're making direct incendiary comments about the genetics of an Indian man in particular and posting his photo over and over again, trying to personally offend a friend of Elon Musk.

00:49:50.000 Many of these accounts...

00:49:51.000 So I'll give you an example.

00:49:54.000 You know, I talk about how you know they're bots, and it's because they post things that are either antagonistic, nonsensical, or don't align with what you posted.

00:50:00.000 For instance, there are a bunch of...

00:50:02.000 Of non-verified accounts with few followers that post weird things in response to anything I do calling me a Jew.

00:50:09.000 Right?

00:50:09.000 These are not real people.

00:50:11.000 There's no human being on their phone being like, wait, did Tim tweet? 0.93

00:50:14.000 Better call him a Jew again. 1.00

00:50:15.000 When the same accounts over and over again automatically, like, seemingly say the same things over and over again, you're like, yeah, these are not real accounts.

00:50:21.000 Right.

00:50:22.000 So what I noticed when this whole thing went down was that there were accounts that, for me, it was interesting because I initially tweeted, this looks like an op.

00:50:31.000 Got attacked by a bunch of Trump supporters.

00:50:33.000 However, I disagree with Elon's stance on H-1B to a great degree.

00:50:37.000 And I was very much in favor of shutting it down, reforming it, or doing something like that.

00:50:42.000 When I then posted like seven different tweets about why H-1B was bad, the responses from most of the visible accounts, they responded as though I said the opposite.

00:50:54.000 Because they're bots.

00:50:55.000 Because the bots had categorized my account or were assigned to my account as...

00:51:01.000 Pro-ELON, not anti-H1B. So I've explained this quite a bit, but the way it works is if a bot farm is targeting you and there's an individual running it who doesn't read English or something, a text generator or something like that, if my account was listed pro-ELON, anything I tweet in relation to the subject would be responded to as if it was pro-ELON. So when I then tweet H1B is bad, the response is, you're an idiot.

00:51:31.000 H1B is actually bad and you're wrong. 1.00

00:51:32.000 And I'm like, but I said that.

00:51:34.000 Because they're not real people.

00:51:36.000 So you can see that happening in real time.

00:51:38.000 Here's why it's hard to fight.

00:51:40.000 The average person can't see that because they don't have millions of followers.

00:51:43.000 So I get a thousand responses from a wall of bots and I'm like, look at that.

00:51:47.000 Then what happens is some run-of-the-mill Trump supporter who is a real person claims that I accused them personally of being a bot because they disagreed.

00:51:57.000 Which is not correct.

00:51:59.000 That's why it's so hard to navigate through this stuff.

00:52:02.000 Interesting.

00:52:02.000 But regardless of whether there was somebody doing something nefarious and trying to create some fractures inside the movement, I think it's a legitimate conversation, a legitimate topic to have a conversation about.

00:52:15.000 No, never said it wasn't.

00:52:16.000 No, that's why I'm like, great, let's have it.

00:52:18.000 I went on TV and said, why are we even starting this conversation about a broken system saying we should expand it?

00:52:24.000 So here's what happens.

00:52:26.000 A bunch of accounts started posting pictures of Indian people and saying abhorrently racist things while advocating for H1B. I believe those bots were actively trying to defend H1B. So it's like a false flag. 0.80

00:52:43.000 If the average person goes on X and sees a wall of racist content and then says H1B is bad...

00:52:51.000 They have an emotional reaction against those people. 0.87

00:52:53.000 Go to their friends and say, I don't know, all those people that are arguing against H-1B are abhorrently racist, evil people.

00:52:59.000 So your theory is who was behind it?

00:53:01.000 The people who like H-1B, I believe, were pushing bot farms.

00:53:05.000 I'll put it this way.

00:53:06.000 Some people who are pro-H-1B ran bot farms that were racist, anti-H-1B to make it appear as though anybody who was a critical of H-1B was woke, right, racist, white nationalist, anti-Semites.

00:53:21.000 I think it backfired. 0.99

00:53:22.000 And it does overlap with the whole woke right garbage, too. 0.83

00:53:25.000 I think it backfired on them.

00:53:29.000 I don't think so.

00:53:29.000 In what way?

00:53:30.000 I think we actually had a legitimate...

00:53:32.000 Whatever they were trying to achieve.

00:53:33.000 No, no, no.

00:53:33.000 That conversation existed and someone tried exploiting it.

00:53:35.000 Right, they tried to.

00:53:36.000 The conversation wasn't created by bot farms.

00:53:38.000 No, I know, but I think their attempt to take over or redirect the conversation, I don't think that that actually succeeded.

00:53:45.000 It did.

00:53:46.000 You think so?

00:53:47.000 When Elon Musk tweeted that these vile racists should be excised from the party, you see, people don't know what he's talking about because they don't see the bots like he does.

00:53:59.000 And so then when I agreed and said these fringe identitarians should not be welcome, it gets taken by people who are not bots as though I'm insulting them for criticizing H-1B, and it creates, and so is chaos.

00:54:11.000 And we're not talking about...

00:54:13.000 The goal of the bot farm and the operations on social media, the goal is not to create a one-for-one inversion.

00:54:19.000 Like, today you will support Elon, tomorrow you will not.

00:54:22.000 It's to create friction and chaos and to increment things by degrees.

00:54:26.000 So it looks to me as, I will say this, one, bots are true.

00:54:31.000 Elon called about the moment he got into Twitter and started going through it.

00:54:34.000 We know they exist.

00:54:35.000 They operate every single day on every single issue.

00:54:40.000 Some of them get flagged, some of them get banned, some of them do not.

00:54:43.000 I think it was Elon was basically pointing out that the federal government was operating bots to sway public opinion as well.

00:54:48.000 And he said, now I'm going to charge you money because you need verification to be visible.

00:54:53.000 That was interesting, too, because he said that it was possible that Twitter had been overvalued because there were so many bots and Twitter had counted them as users.

00:55:01.000 And they did.

00:55:02.000 That's right.

00:55:02.000 But my whole thing being what they all do, whatever took place online and whatever Elon said.

00:55:08.000 I mean, obviously, it was a minuscule part, and I'm sure there were some people that are genuinely racist.

00:55:12.000 Most of them were bots.

00:55:13.000 I think that actually led to a greater conversation about, wait a minute.

00:55:17.000 I would argue...

00:55:18.000 Let's hold on right there.

00:55:19.000 The conversation existed before bots started trying to disrupt it.

00:55:23.000 But I don't think a lot of people actually ever paid attention to the H-1B visa program in as much detail or as much attention as what took place a few weeks ago.

00:55:32.000 The bot attack and the H-1B conversation are two entirely different circumstances.

00:55:36.000 The conversation around H-1B existed.

00:55:39.000 Right.

00:55:39.000 It still exists.

00:55:40.000 Okay, yes.

00:55:41.000 The bots trying to sow chaos with racist posts is an entirely separate thing that did not create the conversation on H-1B. No, it tried to redirect it.

00:55:49.000 It sowed chaos, and it shifted opinions of some people in bad directions.

00:55:54.000 I guess I would push back a little bit and go, I'm not sure what significant percentage it might have shifted.

00:56:01.000 It doesn't need to be significant.

00:56:01.000 The point is, it's all about, I described this the other day, casinos don't win by going head-to-head with you in a game of blackjack and winning all your money.

00:56:11.000 They win by winning 0.5% every year.

00:56:16.000 So when these accounts, I made this point about Groypers.

00:56:19.000 I said Nick Fuentes' fans, the people who go in chat rooms and post vile rape threats to children are not Fuentes' fans.

00:56:26.000 Those are people trying to attack Nick Fuentes. 0.53

00:56:29.000 How do you effectively attack Nick Fuentes, claim to be a fan, and then threaten to rape a child?

00:56:37.000 What happens then is a regular person who's never heard Fuentes or heard his arguments says all of his fans are weirdos who threaten children, which is not true.

00:56:46.000 And you think that has now affected the H-1B visa debate?

00:56:49.000 Maybe it's 1%, maybe it's 2%, but look, man, I go on X, and I'm looking at some of these posts, and I see 50 tweets from people posting pictures of Indian people calling them a whole, like, bucket of racial slurs in every possible direction.

00:57:04.000 And the only thing to conclude is this.

00:57:05.000 No reasonable person who wants to stop H-1B would do that.

00:57:11.000 Correct.

00:57:11.000 The people who want H-1B want to smear their opponents as evil racists.

00:57:16.000 Racists.

00:57:19.000 A regular person walks into a room and says, what's this H-1B thing about? 0.66

00:57:23.000 And they see a bunch of people screaming racist things.

00:57:25.000 All the racists are for...

00:57:27.000 All the racists want to ban H-1B. Maybe I'm not in favor of reforming it.

00:57:31.000 I don't want to be involved with those guys. 0.91

00:57:33.000 They're racists.

00:57:33.000 So if there's all these bots on X, how many bots are there on TikTok pushing all this stuff?

00:57:39.000 Oh man, I assume massive numbers.

00:57:42.000 And we can't see it.

00:57:43.000 We know that when Elon went into X, we could see these things.

00:57:46.000 But with TikTok, we can't see anything.

00:57:49.000 No, it's totally obscured.

00:57:51.000 So, just my take on this is it might have colored a little bit all around the edges, but I don't think it fundamentally changed anyone saying we have to have a real conversation about H-1B visas. 0.90

00:58:01.000 And the immediate reaction being, well, you're a racist.

00:58:04.000 There is an ongoing campaign from disaffected liberals to label people as woke right.

00:58:10.000 To gatekeep and effectively sow discord.

00:58:13.000 And they're doing it because I think Jack Posobiec has it right when he calls them diet woke.

00:58:18.000 These are disaffected liberals who are saying things like—they're basically using the phrase woke right to refer to anyone who is on the right.

00:58:29.000 First, they'll target Candace Owens and say, look at her criticism of Jews. 0.98

00:58:33.000 She's woke right.

00:58:35.000 Anybody who has concerns about Candace Owens' views on Jews, Israel, U.S. liberty, whatever, might be like, whoa, woke right. 1.00

00:58:43.000 Then— James Lindsay calls Oren McIntyre the example of woke right.

00:58:47.000 Oren McIntyre is like a post-liberal.

00:58:49.000 And it's like, what?

00:58:50.000 Then he calls Tucker Carlson woke right.

00:58:53.000 Then Michaela Peterson says, anybody who's critical of H-1B is a racist woke right.

00:58:57.000 And you see where it's going.

00:58:59.000 Disaffected liberals are creating an umbrella term to call everybody racist the same way the woke left had been doing.

00:59:05.000 This is Diet Woke.

00:59:06.000 They're doing the same strategy.

00:59:08.000 So when you see a spattering of weird accounts with random string text names, no followers, and they're not verified, and they're insulting Indian people in rather disgusting ways, I'm like, yeah, it's not a legitimate anti-H1B group.

00:59:24.000 This is an operation to try and sow discord and make the people criticizing H1B look bad.

00:59:34.000 What's post-liberal?

00:59:36.000 So, if you want a great in-depth response, the best thing I would suggest is watching The Lotus Eaters.

00:59:44.000 But I can give you a very, very surface-level understanding.

00:59:48.000 So, I'm not a conservative.

00:59:49.000 I probably lean post-liberal.

00:59:52.000 The idea being that for the long time I was a liberal and I believed in universal principles, things that we should hold to be true and protect.

01:00:00.000 And then you slowly start to realize a few things.

01:00:02.000 Liberal ideas actually got us to this problem in the first place by allowing evil people to be evil.

01:00:08.000 Ideas like we should defend free speech even for those we disagree with results in people who want to destroy your free speech destroying it.

01:00:15.000 And so at a certain point you actually say we should protect free speech for those that believe in free speech.

01:00:20.000 There's a limiting to the principle.

01:00:22.000 But an easy way, I look at what it means to be more post-liberal.

01:00:27.000 And again, Carl Benjamin would give you a much better breakdown because he was the OG classic liberal YouTube Gamergate guy, now the post-liberal podcaster.

01:00:35.000 Would you describe yourself as post-liberal?

01:00:37.000 Leaning in that direction.

01:00:37.000 I don't know enough about it, and I don't like joining factions, but I would put it this way.

01:00:41.000 We had the conversation yesterday as it pertained to TikTok.

01:00:44.000 When Bobby Sauce was arguing that if we believe in small government, we shouldn't give the government more power to ban things.

01:00:50.000 And I said, yeah, that's liberal.

01:00:52.000 He chuckled like I was calling him a liberal.

01:00:55.000 I said, no, that's a literal liberal philosophy of there are universal principles that must be protected.

01:01:00.000 Easiest example that came up was during COVID. Here's a question for you, Ned.

01:01:04.000 Do you think that parents should have the final say when it comes to medical decisions for their children?

01:01:09.000 Of course.

01:01:10.000 So you think a parent that wants to sterilize and castrate their son should be allowed to do it?

01:01:15.000 Interesting.

01:01:16.000 No, you don't.

01:01:16.000 No, I don't.

01:01:17.000 So you don't believe parents should have the final say.

01:01:19.000 There are certain circumstances where the government should intervene and where the government should not, meaning there is no universal principle over parents having the right of final say on the medical decisions for their children.

01:01:31.000 Where do you draw the line, though?

01:01:33.000 Your personal morals.

01:01:34.000 And that is a post-liberal understanding of, hey, wait a minute.

01:01:39.000 We argued free speech should be for all.

01:01:42.000 And then we realized...

01:01:44.000 Actually, the communists who don't believe in free speech have weaponized it against us, are taking it from us and destroying everything while we sit back and let them do it.

01:01:52.000 That's like when people criticize, you know, people don't like what you say.

01:01:56.000 People don't like if you're saying, you know, we should have mass deportations.

01:01:59.000 And they're like, oh, really nice Christian values you have.

01:02:02.000 And it's like, you're an atheist. 0.98

01:02:03.000 Shut it. 0.99

01:02:04.000 You don't even believe in this.

01:02:05.000 I had someone come at me recently with Christian values, and I'm like, these are the Christian values that I'm upholding, in fact. 0.92

01:02:13.000 My body, my choice stuff is a big awakening when you realize the hypocrisy of liberals.

01:02:18.000 They say, my body, my choice for abortion, but not for vaccines, meaning my body, my choice is not a universal principle to these people's morality.

01:02:24.000 Intellectually incoherent.

01:02:26.000 They're not liberal.

01:02:26.000 They're illiberal.

01:02:27.000 What's interesting, too, is you had liberals in the 90s coming down hard on Christian scientists' parents who didn't want to seek medical treatment for their ill children.

01:02:35.000 And those are the same people now who want to get in the way of parents refusing to allow their children to have sex changes.

01:02:44.000 Let's break it down in the way that really hits the culture war.

01:02:48.000 If a conservative parent has a child in school and that child says they're trans and they want the surgery, the government in a liberal state will keep that information from the parents so the parents don't have a right to make a decision as to the medical treatment for their child.

01:03:03.000 If they were in a conservative state and the parent said, I'm going to help you do it, the conservative state would intervene to stop the parent from doing it.

01:03:12.000 Conservatives would agree with that.

01:03:13.000 And in the inverse, liberals on the other side would agree with the state intervening to give the child a sex change, meaning depends on your personal morals, I guess.

01:03:22.000 Where do we draw the line is based entirely on what we believe to be good or bad and what will improve this country or not.

01:03:29.000 So post-liberal is more like that, which I think is fairly obvious and correct for that reason as just described.

01:03:36.000 But for me, it starts with my body, my choice.

01:03:38.000 It starts with free speech.

01:03:40.000 The left has this Karl Popper meme.

01:03:42.000 Where he's like, if you tolerate intolerance, eventually the intolerant win.

01:03:45.000 And we scoff and laugh at them as they utilize this fascistic ethos of might makes right against us.

01:03:51.000 And for the longest time in the 2010s, I as well as the classical liberal bunch kept saying, If Twitter bans a leftist, we will stand up to defend their free speech because we believe in free speech.

01:04:04.000 The moment they got unbanned, they'd come out and file reports against us to have us banned. 0.99

01:04:08.000 Boy, were we stupid for doing that. 0.98

01:04:10.000 It's like the Neil Gaiman thing. 0.99

01:04:11.000 I will defend free speech for someone who believes in my free speech.

01:04:14.000 Right.

01:04:15.000 So if Nick Fuentes says we should have free speech and they go to ban him, I'll say, hey, look, man, he stands on the principle, may not agree with his opinions, but he deserves free speech.

01:04:23.000 But a communist trying to strip away our rights to free speech, when they get banned, I'm going to say, ha, ha, ha.

01:04:28.000 That's like with the whole Neil Gaiman thing, the author.

01:04:31.000 So he's been alleged to, you know...

01:04:34.000 Sexual stuff.

01:04:35.000 He did wrong sexual stuff, apparently.

01:04:38.000 It's what everybody's saying.

01:04:38.000 But he was opposed to women's rights and in favor of, you know, men being in women's bathrooms and men being able to be called mother and all of this stuff.

01:04:49.000 So you have all of these sort of post-feminists who have been saying, you know, Me Too went too far, looking at Neil Gaiman going like, well, enjoy it.

01:04:59.000 Yep.

01:05:00.000 I haven't said anything about Neil Gaiman, and I was very opposed to the whole Me Too thing. 0.99

01:05:05.000 And it's like, he's been out here advocating for child sex changes and whatever else, and I'm just like, well, suck it. 1.00

01:05:13.000 Suck it, Neil Gaiman. 1.00

01:05:14.000 Enjoy your allegation. 1.00

01:05:16.000 I think another thing...

01:05:18.000 So basically, on the surface, it might appear that post-liberals and conservatives have a lot of things in common, but they're actually quite different.

01:05:26.000 Conservatives have traditional moral values they want to uphold.

01:05:29.000 Post-liberal is not too different in some ways, but largely about realizing the liberal ethos led to the creation of policies that have destroyed everything.

01:05:39.000 For example, the 1964 Civil Rights Act is an absolute outcome of classical and then traditional liberalism.

01:05:47.000 What does the 1964 Civil Rights Act give us?

01:05:50.000 HR departments.

01:05:52.000 By law, there's nothing you can do about it.

01:05:54.000 So we actually have a couple stories about DEI departments shutting down, and Phil made this point before the show started.

01:05:59.000 So long as they have HR, they have DEI. And it's because, as someone who runs a company...

01:06:04.000 I know exactly what the insurance companies require.

01:06:07.000 I am required to have insurance.

01:06:08.000 There are certain things I can't do without insurance.

01:06:11.000 I'm not going to get into the great details, but yep, you want to buy a certain product or run it for your business?

01:06:15.000 They're going to ask you if you have insurance.

01:06:16.000 You want to open a store?

01:06:17.000 You've got to have insurance.

01:06:18.000 Insurance companies are going to ask you, what do you do to mitigate against these particular things?

01:06:22.000 Why would we insure you if you're going to get sued for a violation of all of these rights?

01:06:27.000 So long as that...

01:06:28.000 All those titles exist and the Civil Rights Act exist.

01:06:31.000 You are going to be required by law to have weird things in your business.

01:06:36.000 You will, like, let's say you have a business and you're in rural West Virginia, which is 99.9% white.

01:06:42.000 You will get sued for being racist and they will cite the fact that your company is majority white.

01:06:47.000 And when you try and argue it's because people here are white, it won't matter. 0.71

01:06:49.000 You will lose.

01:06:51.000 But let's actually jump to that story.

01:06:53.000 From Mediaites.

01:06:55.000 FBI shuttered DEI office ahead of Trump's inauguration.

01:06:59.000 Now, why would they do that?

01:07:00.000 No, they didn't.

01:07:01.000 They didn't do it?

01:07:02.000 No, they did, but I think they're probably just embedding them throughout the different parts of the agency.

01:07:08.000 Oh, right.

01:07:09.000 No, the woke mind virus is metastasizing.

01:07:11.000 This is what concerns me a little bit.

01:07:13.000 Not only at FBI, I've heard some of this taking place at DOD and other places.

01:07:17.000 We're going to shut down some of this stuff.

01:07:19.000 They're not...

01:07:19.000 On the surface, it looks like they are, but they're just embedding these people in different departments, different parts of the FBI. They're not firing anybody, right?

01:07:30.000 No.

01:07:30.000 So that's why...

01:07:31.000 Well, Cash, you got your work cut out for you.

01:07:34.000 This is what I want to...

01:07:35.000 I want them to have time stamps from November 6th.

01:07:39.000 Maybe even November 5th.

01:07:40.000 But November 5th, 6th, timestamps on when did these people get reassigned from, say, a DEI office?

01:07:46.000 Where did they get placed?

01:07:47.000 Who are they?

01:07:48.000 What have they been assigned to do to figure out what they're trying to do by embedding these people in different offices?

01:07:55.000 And say, yeah, we went back and looked at the timestamp, and we know what you're doing, and we're not going to tolerate it.

01:08:02.000 I've suggested that to some of the nominees.

01:08:04.000 Go back and look at timestamps when they started.

01:08:06.000 You know, doing this maneuvering and figure out what they're doing.

01:08:09.000 Is the answer simple then?

01:08:10.000 When Kash Patel is confirmed as head of the FBI, he just looks at anybody who was in the DEI department and just fires them?

01:08:18.000 Yeah.

01:08:18.000 Look at a timestamp.

01:08:19.000 No, look at when they were moved.

01:08:22.000 Probably they were moved post-November 5th and go, yeah, that's great.

01:08:27.000 The thing is, until you can firmly decide the head of the executive branch can fire these people, one of the other things that I've proposed, just start a Department of Elimination until you can actually solve the fundamental question.

01:08:40.000 Just send them and say you're reassigned to one of the hundreds of empty government buildings.

01:08:44.000 We're not going to have you resist or cause problems or try and stop Trump's policies.

01:08:48.000 You've just been reassigned to this Department of Elimination.

01:08:51.000 You get to show up at an empty desk, no computer, read a newspaper, read a book.

01:08:56.000 You're not going to do any more damage to Trump's policy.

01:09:00.000 There's things they can do, like you can never move boxes from one room to another, you know?

01:09:06.000 Stuff like that.

01:09:07.000 No, I think everything...

01:09:08.000 I mean, GS-14, 15, and SES types are the ones that really lead the resistance inside...

01:09:14.000 I think everyone GS-13 and above should get fired, but that comes...

01:09:17.000 That's why I've suggested start...

01:09:19.000 Well, I'd say GS... 12 and 13s, but sure.

01:09:22.000 Hey, you want to add to it?

01:09:23.000 Fine, man.

01:09:24.000 No, but you're right.

01:09:25.000 I mean, that's where you start to get to these guys really starting to make decisions.

01:09:29.000 GS-14s and 15s really think they are the deciders. 0.66

01:09:32.000 I got it.

01:09:34.000 Wait, wait.

01:09:34.000 How many FBI agents are there that you think we could reassign?

01:09:38.000 Well, so I just got told by someone that's a current agent that about 40% of the, I think it's current field agents, maybe it's the agents at headquarters, but it's a significant percentage came in under Christopher Wray.

01:09:50.000 There's only 38,000 FBI agents right now.

01:09:53.000 So wait, wait, wait.

01:09:54.000 Are we saying there's 40% of those that we could reassign because we don't need them?

01:09:57.000 I don't trust them.

01:09:59.000 Let's just say for starters, I don't trust them.

01:10:00.000 I think you can lose half of them.

01:10:01.000 That's not my question.

01:10:02.000 I think you can lose half.

01:10:03.000 So I think we're looking at half, so 19,000?

01:10:07.000 Yeah.

01:10:07.000 Let's send them all to a facility in Alaska and have them work on the 3x plus 1 problem.

01:10:13.000 Well, Ned and I were talking about this earlier.

01:10:15.000 This math problem has baffled math petitions for 50 years.

01:10:19.000 19,000 people.

01:10:21.000 No Malaska. 0.95

01:10:22.000 And no Malaska.

01:10:23.000 No Malaska. 0.95

01:10:24.000 Just sitting in a room, writing down numbers.

01:10:26.000 That's where the new FBI headquarters are.

01:10:27.000 Yeah.

01:10:27.000 That's where the new beautiful FBI headquarters will be, no Malaska.

01:10:31.000 Go up there and solve these problems.

01:10:33.000 Well, it's one problem, and it's just we're going to have you all.

01:10:37.000 For decades.

01:10:38.000 So the 3x plus 1 problem, it's basically, let me actually give you the full breakdown on this one, how it basically works.

01:10:46.000 You take a positive number.

01:10:48.000 If it's even, divide by two.

01:10:49.000 If it's odd, multiply by three, then add one.

01:10:51.000 And eventually it'll collapse and come down to one.

01:10:53.000 And so we're trying to figure out if it's true or not.

01:10:56.000 It's presumed.

01:10:57.000 And it's not been solved.

01:10:58.000 But 19,000 people of rudimentary mathematic experience, I think we could solve that problem.

01:11:05.000 It might take them like four years.

01:11:06.000 I don't care.

01:11:07.000 Five years, six years.

01:11:08.000 There's things they can do in the meantime.

01:11:10.000 But Ned and I were talking earlier, and I think that...

01:11:13.000 Or he mentioned something that I didn't even realize, that when you relocate a large agency or a business, 20% of the personnel decide they don't want to move.

01:11:26.000 They're not going to move their families, they're not going to relocate schools.

01:11:30.000 So this comes back to something that we've been talking about here regularly.

01:11:34.000 Break apart all of these...

01:11:36.000 Agencies that are in D.C. and send them throughout the country, and you'll get a massive downsizing of the federal government just because of the movement.

01:11:46.000 If trends would hold true about 20 percent.

01:11:48.000 I mean, there's 800,000 federal employees that the government of its own volition has deemed to be non-essential.

01:11:58.000 Yeah.

01:11:59.000 100 percent.

01:11:59.000 800,000.

01:12:00.000 Let's get them out.

01:12:01.000 Get them out.

01:12:01.000 You're done.

01:12:02.000 And that's why I want...

01:12:03.000 There we go.

01:12:04.000 At two station.

01:12:06.000 It's the westernmost point of the Aleutians.

01:12:09.000 Oh.

01:12:10.000 That's where the new FBI headquarters are going to be.

01:12:12.000 I think we should do that.

01:12:14.000 Yeah.

01:12:15.000 Great.

01:12:15.000 Atu Station.

01:12:16.000 What is this?

01:12:16.000 I mean, that's great for the FBI, but there's a boatload of other bureaucracies that need to go.

01:12:21.000 Department of Education should cease to exist.

01:12:24.000 Absolutely.

01:12:25.000 Agriculture should go to Des Moines or something.

01:12:28.000 It shouldn't exist.

01:12:28.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:12:29.000 Get out of here.

01:12:30.000 I want Linda McMahon. 1.00

01:12:32.000 To go in and say, I have an announcement, day one.

01:12:34.000 I have an announcement to make.

01:12:35.000 I am the last Secretary of Education.

01:12:38.000 We are going to be shutting this down over the course of four years.

01:12:40.000 And before Trump's gone, as everybody has left the building, he just implodes the building.

01:12:46.000 Raises it to the ground.

01:12:47.000 Look at this.

01:12:48.000 DC is short on housing.

01:12:50.000 Look where this is.

01:12:51.000 Look where Etu Station is.

01:12:53.000 You see that?

01:12:54.000 That little red dot, westernmost of the Aleutian Islands.

01:12:57.000 And the population density is zero.

01:13:00.000 Good.

01:13:01.000 Zero.

01:13:02.000 I say we take them all and we send them there.

01:13:04.000 Then we're going to have to build a bridge to nowhere.

01:13:06.000 I got to be honest, though.

01:13:07.000 I think we'll get more than 20% if we do that, though.

01:13:09.000 I think we'll get rid of more than 20%.

01:13:10.000 Yeah, I think we'd go from half of 19,000, we'd be down to like a handful.

01:13:14.000 I mean, it actually looks like a really fun place to visit, to be honest.

01:13:18.000 Like, I would actually love to go and check this place out.

01:13:21.000 There you go.

01:13:22.000 Here's your building.

01:13:23.000 They got bikes.

01:13:24.000 Wow.

01:13:25.000 There's an old plane.

01:13:27.000 That's cool.

01:13:27.000 Look at all that.

01:13:28.000 It looks like fun, man.

01:13:31.000 You'd be safe from the zombies.

01:13:32.000 You should start the tourism department and then you can pitch it to the 19,000 FBA agents.

01:13:38.000 They have a little city.

01:13:39.000 Look at this.

01:13:40.000 Beautiful.

01:13:41.000 Look at that.

01:13:42.000 Beautiful in the summer.

01:13:43.000 Probably have like 23 hours of sunlight.

01:13:45.000 So the population is zero.

01:13:47.000 A lot of mosquitoes.

01:13:48.000 Winter is a little depressing.

01:13:50.000 A lot of mosquitoes in Alaska?

01:13:51.000 Really?

01:13:52.000 Yeah, I worked up there in the summer.

01:13:54.000 You assume it's cold, but in the summer it's...

01:13:57.000 Daylight all day.

01:13:58.000 And everything melts.

01:13:59.000 And the vegetables get big.

01:14:01.000 In North America, there's the same...

01:14:03.000 Like in Canada and Alaska, there's the same biomass of mosquitoes as there is in the Amazon, but it's in half the year as opposed to it's year-round.

01:14:15.000 Oh, wow.

01:14:16.000 There's a lot of mosquitoes here.

01:14:17.000 It's pretty bad, yeah.

01:14:18.000 Oh, wow, man.

01:14:19.000 There used to be people there.

01:14:20.000 15. Wow.

01:14:23.000 There were 19 men and one woman.

01:14:25.000 Yikes.

01:14:26.000 But this is just one agency we're talking about here.

01:14:29.000 We got the whole Department of Transportation.

01:14:32.000 Look, the Aleutians have a lot of islands.

01:14:34.000 A lot of conversations about people talking about reducing the size of government.

01:14:40.000 Great.

01:14:41.000 It's reducing responsibilities.

01:14:43.000 Yeah.

01:14:43.000 Like, where should government be?

01:14:44.000 Where should government not be?

01:14:45.000 And I think that's one of the conversations that we should have with the American people.

01:14:48.000 What should our government look like?

01:14:50.000 What is a proper government for a representative democracy, which progressives don't believe in, by the way?

01:14:56.000 What should it look like?

01:14:57.000 Where should it be?

01:14:59.000 You know, again, their whole approach is the state of salvation.

01:15:01.000 It should invade every aspect of your life.

01:15:03.000 People have asked why is there continual perpetual growth of the state?

01:15:07.000 Because they want it to invade every aspect of your life.

01:15:09.000 Until salvation comes to every aspect of your life, the state should continue to grow.

01:15:13.000 So it's in the DNA of the state.

01:15:15.000 Because they think the state is salvation.

01:15:16.000 Right.

01:15:16.000 So that's how they believe.

01:15:19.000 And then we need to have a conversation.

01:15:20.000 It's the ultimate company store.

01:15:22.000 Yeah.

01:15:22.000 But the conversation needs to be had.

01:15:24.000 Let's get back to a rights-based government.

01:15:26.000 Government is meant to secure.

01:15:28.000 These God-given rights and take none of them away.

01:15:31.000 So this is the conversation that has to be out with the American people, but the beginning point is break apart the Leviathan, downsize it, but downsize the scope.

01:15:40.000 When people talk about limited government, I think too often they look at, well, government should be limited in size.

01:15:45.000 It should be limited in scope.

01:15:47.000 Do you think that...

01:15:49.000 So to have that effect, do you think something like the Necessary and Proper Clause need to be amended, or the Commerce Clause?

01:15:55.000 Because those are the two clauses that actually allow the government, or that give the government justification, or the justification they use to expand into all, yeah, exactly.

01:16:06.000 I mean, because the Constitution does articulate the powers that the government has, and then anytime they want to do anything, they say, well...

01:16:13.000 Congress has the power to make laws that are necessary and proper.

01:16:16.000 Oh, this is to regulate commerce between the states.

01:16:19.000 Which, if you look at any, you know, if you look at the definition of regulate when they made that, it has nothing to do with being able to just, you know, tell people they can't grow wheat on their own property to feed to their own cow or whatever, you know?

01:16:30.000 But I would go back to most of the administrative state is inside, not the Article 1 legislative branch, it's in the Article 2 executive branch.

01:16:38.000 And the head of the executive branch should be able to decide.

01:16:41.000 What is necessary?

01:16:42.000 What is not necessary for the Article 2 executive branch to run effectively?

01:16:46.000 And if he gets that question answered, he can decide this is not needed for this to be used effectively for the American people.

01:16:53.000 I'm going to shut down this department.

01:16:54.000 I'm going to shut down this agency.

01:16:55.000 We're going to fire this many federal employees.

01:16:57.000 We're going to fire...

01:16:58.000 I don't think a lot of people know that there's twice as many federal contractors as there are federal employees.

01:17:04.000 It's about a two-to-one ratio.

01:17:06.000 We're going to get rid of this 4 million.

01:17:08.000 The last I checked, there were about 4 million federal contractors.

01:17:11.000 We're going to fire them.

01:17:12.000 4 million federal contractors?

01:17:14.000 Yeah, just for the federal government.

01:17:15.000 About 2 million federal government employees.

01:17:17.000 That doesn't include military.

01:17:20.000 Too many.

01:17:21.000 Yeah, what does a representative democracy government that is meant to secure rights, what does that actually look like in practice in the 21st century?

01:17:31.000 And the head of the Article 2 branch, I think, should be empowered to be making that decision in some ways.

01:17:35.000 Not that I think that an amendment is possible.

01:17:37.000 I think that it would be some kind of long shot.

01:17:39.000 But do you think that it would be functional to have an amendment that actually outlines what the government's role should be?

01:17:46.000 Because, you know, it should be, like, in my estimation, I'm close to the idea that there should be a government that should provide courts for re-just agreements, they should defend the borders, and then they should protect property rights.

01:17:59.000 And that's it.

01:18:00.000 That's all the – those are the legitimate functions of government.

01:18:03.000 Which, by the way, do we actually have private property if we have property taxes?

01:18:06.000 No, and I think that that should be adjudicated.

01:18:09.000 Yeah, you're just paying rent.

01:18:10.000 But I just – last, really quick.

01:18:11.000 I mean I think you – property rights.

01:18:14.000 The founders believed that you had a right to property and there's property and rights.

01:18:17.000 And I don't think – I think if you don't have actual real private property because of property taxes, I think you undermine the whole idea of actually – What does it mean to have rights?

01:18:24.000 I agree completely.

01:18:25.000 I want to jump to the story, but I just realized that the pop-up on the Post Millennial is Libby on Timcast IRL. Look at that!

01:18:31.000 But it was you on IRL. That was me on IRL. How's the introduction?

01:18:35.000 You're in Martinsburg space.

01:18:35.000 That's right.

01:18:36.000 I was like, that's a big chair.

01:18:38.000 I was like, wait a minute, that's my window.

01:18:39.000 What's the introduction for you?

01:18:40.000 So you can do it for your son again.

01:18:42.000 You want me to do it?

01:18:43.000 Yeah.

01:18:47.000 I wonder if he's watching.

01:18:49.000 He might be.

01:18:49.000 He asked me for the link.

01:18:50.000 Uh-oh.

01:18:51.000 Oh, is that why you...

01:18:52.000 Hi, I'm Libby Emmons from the Post Millennial.

01:18:54.000 There you go.

01:18:55.000 You do say that.

01:18:56.000 All right, everybody.

01:18:58.000 From the Post Millennial, DNC taps staffers behind misleading Kamala HQ account to combat misinformation.

01:19:05.000 Thank goodness.

01:19:06.000 They will, quote, combat online misinformation and respond to the Trump administration actions by pushing out memes, videos, and graphics.

01:19:12.000 In other words, they will lie.

01:19:14.000 Yes.

01:19:14.000 They will lie.

01:19:15.000 And what's interesting, too, is remember how with Kamala HQ, immediately there was a Kamala HQ lies X account that popped up?

01:19:22.000 So there's a fact post L's account that has already popped up to debunk all of the nonsense that this fact post account publishes.

01:19:36.000 So, yeah, I think that's pretty interesting.

01:19:38.000 It also...

01:19:39.000 One thing is that if the DNC is hiring Kamala's Gen Z X staffers...

01:19:47.000 They really haven't learned anything from this election at all. 1.00

01:19:50.000 They're just going to keep going on and doing the exact same stupid nonsense they were doing before. 1.00

01:19:55.000 Lying, taking things out of context, misquoting, false allegations. 1.00

01:19:59.000 And that's what the DNC is going to do.

01:20:01.000 And the DNC doesn't even have a head yet.

01:20:03.000 But they're going to come in with this cohort ready to go and perpetrate misinformation hearings over the last few days.

01:20:13.000 I think it's an interesting question.

01:20:15.000 Democrats do seem to be in disarray.

01:20:17.000 Obviously, they're not bringing their A-game.

01:20:19.000 At what point do we think they will ever come to the conclusion, the path we are going down and we have gone down is a destructive one to our party and for us achieving political power again.

01:20:31.000 We might want to rejigger this whole thing and maybe not continue.

01:20:35.000 Or are they just going to simply double down?

01:20:37.000 Well, I guess it depends on who they pick for the DNC chair and maybe which way they go, right?

01:20:43.000 Because they have two directions they could go in.

01:20:45.000 They could go hard progressive left.

01:20:47.000 I think they will go that way.

01:20:49.000 Or like, you know, boost AOC and Rashida Tlaib and whoever else didn't get voted out from that whole squad. 0.98

01:20:57.000 Or they could go the more moderate approach and say, you know, well, of course, we do need to have more border control and we do need this and that.

01:21:05.000 We do need to reduce, you know, sterilizing our children and we do need to promote families.

01:21:10.000 So they have a choice to make and they haven't decided what choice they're going to make yet.

01:21:15.000 They don't know what they're going to do.

01:21:17.000 What's my bet?

01:21:20.000 I think if they have no sense, then they'll go progressive.

01:21:24.000 They'll go even harder progressive. 0.84

01:21:25.000 I don't know if they have the ability to, because I think the woke mind virus has broken their brains.

01:21:32.000 I don't think they have anything else, because if you look at it, the establishment ones, they're older than Joe Biden.

01:21:37.000 I think people view the world and humans as this group that shifts around.

01:21:45.000 Watches the news, changes their minds.

01:21:47.000 The reality is...

01:21:49.000 They're fundamentalists.

01:21:50.000 People's minds are developed in youth and largely solidified.

01:21:54.000 The reason the Democrats began embracing wokeness is because younger left-leaning individuals started in line with Democrats.

01:22:01.000 Thus, the Democratic Party officially adopted the DSA as a component of the Democratic Party.

01:22:05.000 The DNC cannot moderate because young woke people genuinely believe in their crackpot cult.

01:22:13.000 They're not going to wake up from it.

01:22:15.000 This is their whole worldview.

01:22:16.000 Their fundamentals and their views.

01:22:18.000 Yes.

01:22:18.000 And what's going to happen is people like Pelosi and Schumer who have entertained it for power, they're going – they still moderate it to a certain degree despite entertaining it.

01:22:29.000 That's a weakness.

01:22:29.000 When they pass on, the younger people who move into the Democratic Party are going to be full on woke and it will be that much worse.

01:22:37.000 I agree.

01:22:38.000 I don't think they have.

01:22:40.000 I think the trends have been put in place.

01:22:42.000 I don't think there is a way for them to stop these trends until this next generation that has completely embraced this fundamentalist woke mind virus passes away, and that's not for a long time.

01:22:53.000 Gen X is the reason Trump won.

01:22:56.000 Boomers still are leaning a little bit conservative. 1.00

01:22:59.000 Silent generation as well.

01:23:01.000 But once we lose the other generation... 0.99

01:23:04.000 I don't see how we get another populist right president.

01:23:08.000 Well, so I bring up an interesting point.

01:23:11.000 And TikTok.

01:23:12.000 I think the 2028 elections are far more important than people understand because of what happens in the 2030 census.

01:23:18.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:23:19.000 If you hold on to power in 2028, and by that I mean America First Republicans, it might be J.D. Vance, it might be somebody else.

01:23:25.000 You hold on to power then, the 2030 census, and the shift.

01:23:29.000 From these blue states into the Sun Belt and other key states down south, I think all of a sudden it becomes a decade of power.

01:23:38.000 Take a look at this from Civics.

01:23:40.000 Here's the Donald Trump favorability as of today.

01:23:44.000 53% unfavorable.

01:23:46.000 18 to 34, 61% unfavorable.

01:23:50.000 35 to 49, 56 unfavorable.

01:23:53.000 50 to 64, 51% favorable.

01:23:57.000 65 plus.

01:23:58.000 50% favorable.

01:24:00.000 This is not...

01:24:01.000 There is not going to be a great awakening of...

01:24:06.000 The reason why generations skew one direction, it goes more and more liberal as time goes on, it's because the younger generations are exposed to liberal ideology.

01:24:18.000 Indoctrination centers.

01:24:19.000 Indoctrination centers.

01:24:20.000 When they turn 30, they're going to hold those same views.

01:24:23.000 So when 18-34 becomes 34-49, Then you're going to see the 35 to 49 bracket have a 61% unfavorable rating for Donald Trump.

01:24:36.000 As the older generation passes on, this country is going to go woke.

01:24:40.000 And we're only lucky right now that Gen X, which was the largest bracket supporting Donald Trump, came out and voted for him, and the Republicans, without Gen X, that's it.

01:24:52.000 Now, the other issue is, when boomers go, and they do support Trump a little bit, It's going to be much more difficult for Gen X to maintain this. 0.76

01:25:01.000 And Gen Z is leftist.

01:25:04.000 This is why I say TikTok is so dangerous, but it's not just TikTok.

01:25:07.000 Our own companies do the same thing, pushing this crackpot ideology.

01:25:11.000 And I believe largely that either this country is sick to the core or Democrats are intentionally burning the country down.

01:25:19.000 Well, I mean, yeah, I've said this a boatload of times, like a happy population.

01:25:26.000 Doesn't engage in revolutionary activities.

01:25:29.000 So if you've got people that are ideologically bent on creating the perfected society or having a revolution in the U.S., you want unhappy Americans. 0.76

01:25:39.000 You want people that are disaffected.

01:25:41.000 You want people that are not pleased with the way that their lives and the country is going, so that way they will engage in revolutionary activities.

01:25:50.000 You don't get happy people that have kids and have happy families and stuff.

01:25:55.000 They don't want to engage in revolutionary activities because they're like, man, my life's good.

01:25:58.000 So a couple of things.

01:26:00.000 I mean, kind of what Tim was saying, like the numbers look pretty grim moving forward.

01:26:05.000 I think that should actually inspire those of us that are involved in politics in a day to day basis.

01:26:12.000 We better figure out how we actually get the numbers in our favor before 2028 in regards to voter reg.

01:26:19.000 ABGen, all these things in key battleground states to hold on to power in 2020. And then I think census numbers give us another 10 years.

01:26:26.000 But then that leads to the next point.

01:26:28.000 At some point, and J.D. Vance has talked about this.

01:26:31.000 I endorse it.

01:26:32.000 We should talk about the endowments for these indoctrination centers.

01:26:35.000 And let's have a conversation about what you're actually doing in...

01:26:39.000 Bringing these younger generations and indoctrinating them in destructive ideas that are going to ruin this country in the future and actually allow China and other countries to dominate us. 1.00

01:26:50.000 The Communist Control Act was a thing for a little while.

01:26:52.000 It's no longer a law, but I think that they should revisit the idea.

01:26:57.000 I mean, there's nothing wrong, in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with saying we need education to uplift our way of life and we should reject people.

01:27:07.000 Coming into our country that want to subvert it. 1.00

01:27:11.000 There should be nothing objectionable or even particularly odd about that sentiment.

01:27:18.000 If we as a nation want to survive and we like our way of life, we should have schools teach that the United States is a good place, not that the United States is a bad place.

01:27:28.000 We should have...

01:27:29.000 And if we're going to allow immigration at all, we should only allow immigrants in. 1.00

01:27:35.000 That benefits the country.

01:27:36.000 Exactly.

01:27:36.000 If they believe in the ideology and they want to become Americans, they have to want to assimilate.

01:27:42.000 You can't bring the old country's ways with you. 1.00

01:27:45.000 I'm sorry.

01:27:45.000 If you want the old country's ways, go to the old country.

01:27:49.000 But you're not making our country like the old country.

01:27:51.000 Kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier.

01:27:53.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:27:54.000 No, that was the idea originally.

01:27:55.000 It was like...

01:27:56.000 You know, you could bring your food and bring your fashion and some of that stuff, but basically you have to become an American.

01:28:03.000 Assimilation was a huge deal.

01:28:06.000 You have to buy into the ethos.

01:28:07.000 We're not an economic zone.

01:28:08.000 We're not some random spot in the world.

01:28:11.000 There's a very specific and unique culture and way of life and how we approach things, the constitution, our government, all of these things.

01:28:20.000 And I think immigration policy should reflect that.

01:28:22.000 I mean, again, it goes back to the conversation earlier in which they're trying to destroy this country via immigration policy because they hate it. 0.82

01:28:28.000 Our immigration policy should actually be implemented, going back to the H-1B. Does this actually promote the interests of our culture and society? 0.94

01:28:39.000 All immigration and visa policy should actually be pointed in that direction.

01:28:43.000 Yeah, I mean, it goes back to what is the moral imperative of every national leader?

01:28:48.000 It's to promote the interests of the nation and its nation's people.

01:28:51.000 And if you don't want to promote...

01:28:53.000 What is best for them?

01:28:55.000 Yeah, if you don't want...

01:28:56.000 If you're not America first, why are you even running for a position in government?

01:29:02.000 Yeah.

01:29:03.000 There are people who have this fractured view of the world.

01:29:08.000 They're not smart people.

01:29:09.000 They don't read.

01:29:10.000 They get their information from songs.

01:29:12.000 And not good ones at that.

01:29:14.000 And so their reason for joining government, some of these people, it's the only way to get their name in the history books.

01:29:22.000 For others, they're literally trying to burn it to the ground.

01:29:25.000 It's remarkable to me that there are people who are raised in this country who hate it.

01:29:29.000 That's particularly rare for a lot of the other developed nations, that you have this massive, I mean...

01:29:36.000 It's true in the UK. That people hate the UK? To be fair, the UK is in serious trouble.

01:29:42.000 Let me rephrase this.

01:29:45.000 There's been an increase in the West of younger generations who despise their own countries.

01:29:51.000 Part of that is that we have eradicated the reason that the countries are good in the first place.

01:29:58.000 We've taken away the moral values.

01:30:00.000 We've taken away civic.

01:30:03.000 We've taken away civility.

01:30:05.000 We've taken away all of the things that, as you were saying, would make you govern yourself and feel good about who you are.

01:30:12.000 We've destroyed meaning.

01:30:13.000 We've said meaning is irrelevant.

01:30:14.000 And then you have people going in search of what, like...

01:30:17.000 We settle for your truth, my truth, and annihilate the idea of objective truth.

01:30:21.000 Yeah, people go look for witchcraft, you know, to try and be part of that.

01:30:23.000 People are desperate to be part of something, and so they're searching for meaning and something to make them feel valid in the world.

01:30:29.000 And if that's...

01:30:31.000 If that's the road you're on, if you're staring into the void looking for anything to grab onto before you fall into the black hole of nothingness, you're going to grab whatever it is that shows up your way.

01:30:43.000 It's like the girl with daddy issues.

01:30:46.000 The first guy at the bar, she goes home with him.

01:30:49.000 It is now time to say goodbye.

01:30:52.000 Merrick Garland saying goodbye.

01:30:53.000 That's nice.

01:30:54.000 Oh, thank God.

01:30:55.000 I don't mind that weasel.

01:30:56.000 I'm glad he wasn't a Supreme Court justice.

01:30:58.000 Yeah, thank God.

01:31:00.000 I remember when that was going on and I was like, Mitch McConnell's being a real stick in the mud.

01:31:04.000 It's like nine months left, you know?

01:31:06.000 And it's like, no, that was a good job.

01:31:08.000 Good job, Mitch McConnell.

01:31:09.000 That was like the one good thing he did.

01:31:11.000 Everybody can complain all they want about Turtle Man.

01:31:14.000 But he saved America from Merrick Garland and he saved all of the good things that the Supreme Court has done in the past.

01:31:22.000 I don't know however long it was since 2012 or 11 or whatever when he was.

01:31:26.000 All that good stuff probably wouldn't happen without Mitch McConnell.

01:31:30.000 Did you guys watch some of the confirmation hearing for Pam Bondi?

01:31:34.000 I can't remember which senator or Democrat.

01:31:36.000 I can't believe she's 59. I know.

01:31:38.000 She looks good.

01:31:39.000 Yeah, she does.

01:31:40.000 She's like 43. Yeah.

01:31:42.000 The question being, well, how can we be sure that you're not going to weaponize the DOJ against political...

01:31:46.000 And she's like, like you did.

01:31:47.000 And she was like, wait, you just did that?

01:31:50.000 That's a serious question?

01:31:52.000 Yeah.

01:31:52.000 Have you not watched Merrick Garland the last four years?

01:31:55.000 Well, it's because...

01:31:56.000 Weaponize the DOJ. They are evil.

01:31:58.000 Yeah.

01:31:59.000 Now, this is...

01:32:00.000 You know what?

01:32:00.000 I'd love to have the conversation about...

01:32:02.000 In our society, we should have a conversation about there is good and there is evil.

01:32:07.000 And we should promote the good, and we should destroy the evil.

01:32:10.000 Yes.

01:32:10.000 That's a good way to go.

01:32:12.000 Get thee behind me, Satan.

01:32:14.000 For the benefit of society.

01:32:15.000 We should say there is good, there is evil.

01:32:17.000 But for that to happen, you have to have standards and principles that everybody agrees, and the idea of absolutes, it's not your truth, my truth, it is truth.

01:32:24.000 It's not subjective, it's objective.

01:32:27.000 Yep.

01:32:28.000 It's true.

01:32:32.000 There's always going to be the post-modern Perspective, right?

01:32:37.000 People think that quantum physics applies to normal, everyday interactions and stuff.

01:32:44.000 And fair enough, your actual perspective does matter, but that doesn't change the fact that you can talk about things that are true, that in a way...

01:32:56.000 That is close enough to fact to be functional for a society.

01:33:01.000 That's why, even though a lot of the stuff in the Bible isn't true-true, like it's not like the stories didn't actually happen the way they say in the Bible, but if you live your life away...

01:33:11.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:33:12.000 I do.

01:33:13.000 Anyways...

01:33:14.000 But the point that I'm making is...

01:33:16.000 The Word of God?

01:33:16.000 The truth of the Word of God?

01:33:18.000 Wait a minute, we can have a conversation.

01:33:20.000 No, no, no.

01:33:21.000 The point is, it's functionally true.

01:33:23.000 The point is, if you live your life according to the things that the Bible says, you're generally going to have a society that works out better.

01:33:31.000 Well, the Ten Commandments is basically a socio-technological advancement.

01:33:34.000 Yes, yes.

01:33:36.000 And whether it comes...

01:33:37.000 You guys are more than welcome to your religion and to believe that the Bible is the Word of God.

01:33:42.000 But the point...

01:33:45.000 By the Ten Commandments.

01:33:46.000 If we were to just say society should be ordered around the Ten Commandments.

01:33:50.000 That would be a good jam.

01:33:52.000 It would be a great society. 1.00

01:33:53.000 You should murder. 1.00

01:33:56.000 You should honor your father and mother. 1.00

01:33:58.000 You should not commit adultery.

01:33:59.000 You should not covet.

01:34:01.000 Don't drive yourself nuts wanting what the other guy has.

01:34:04.000 It's a good way to order society.

01:34:06.000 That's why God handed them down.

01:34:07.000 You should order your society based off these commandments.

01:34:10.000 We had this conversation with Seamus on the show a year and a half ago or so, and I said, from a liberal perspective, if you break down the commandments logically, they all make sense.

01:34:22.000 That if a secular individual were to follow these, you would have a better society.

01:34:26.000 So we pulled them up.

01:34:27.000 That's not controversial either.

01:34:29.000 It shouldn't be.

01:34:29.000 But it's actually quite simple, right?

01:34:31.000 The obvious ones don't commit adultery, like we agree with that.

01:34:35.000 Don't bear false witness.

01:34:36.000 Honor your parents.

01:34:37.000 Don't murder.

01:34:38.000 Don't covet stuff.

01:34:40.000 Don't steal or cheat.

01:34:42.000 Yeah.

01:34:42.000 But then there's two.

01:34:44.000 Actually, there's three, which is the first commandment, having no other gods.

01:34:52.000 I can break that down very simply in a secular way as to why that still logically applies.

01:34:59.000 Because if you were to apply the word God as in the moral structure, or I should say from a liberal perspective, this system and what you are following, let's write these up from a secular perspective.

01:35:12.000 The first commandment would be, you shall have no other moral frameworks aside from this.

01:35:18.000 That's basically what it's saying.

01:35:19.000 Do not worship any other ideas or ideologies.

01:35:23.000 The ninth is, that one's actually quite simple.

01:35:25.000 Take a day for yourself to recover.

01:35:28.000 And the last one, of course, is don't use the name in vain, is literally do not disparage these ideas for which you live a better life.

01:35:35.000 And don't curse people.

01:35:36.000 Be consistent with them.

01:35:37.000 I'm taking a secular approach to it, but I do think it's actually quite simple why we all think this way.

01:35:42.000 We were all raised...

01:35:44.000 In a society of Christian moral values.

01:35:47.000 So when we look at these, we say, that makes sense.

01:35:51.000 Go to China.

01:35:52.000 They're going to be like, what do you mean?

01:35:54.000 They don't have the same moral structure as we do.

01:35:57.000 These things are foundational to Western civilization.

01:36:00.000 And when we eradicate religion, we eradicate these ideas.

01:36:04.000 It is in service to destroying Western civilization.

01:36:07.000 And that's why communists hate religion, as Phil could tell you.

01:36:10.000 You know, that's why you have all of these hard leftists being really in favor of ideologies that destroy family, that destroy society, that destroy, you know.

01:36:21.000 The Judeo-Christian framework.

01:36:22.000 The Judeo-Christian framework, you know, love God or not, the Judeo-Christian framework created peaceful, high trust society.

01:36:33.000 It created the concept, the very concept of civilization was created because we had ancestors buying into Judeo-Christian values.

01:36:45.000 The Romans had civilization before.

01:36:48.000 Yeah, but it wasn't as good.

01:36:49.000 They had slaves underground pumping water. 0.98

01:36:52.000 It was still civilization.

01:36:54.000 Yeah, but the greatest amount of freedom and prosperity that the world has ever seen came from Judeo-Christian values.

01:37:00.000 Yes.

01:37:00.000 That's fair.

01:37:00.000 I would agree with that.

01:37:01.000 Yeah, I mean, I totally agree.

01:37:03.000 Rome was a great empire for a thousand years, but the greatest amount of freedom and prosperity for the most amount of people came from Judeo-Christian values.

01:37:09.000 Greece was good, too, but they left their babies on hillsides.

01:37:12.000 How did it work that, like, you're a slave in Rome, and, like, how would they know?

01:37:16.000 You're, like, walking down the street, and they're like, you're a slave now.

01:37:19.000 Well, if you were, like, if Rome conquered your spot, the place where you lived, if Rome conquered you, you were a slave.

01:37:27.000 And if you were a Roman citizen, that meant you could either buy citizenship or you could be born into citizenship. 0.50

01:37:33.000 How do you prove it?

01:37:34.000 I don't know, but you have an interesting thing that happens.

01:37:36.000 You'd be like, no, I'm not a slave.

01:37:37.000 I'm actually a noble.

01:37:38.000 Well, you had this interesting thing that happens in Acts of the Apostles, which I was actually just reading recently, which is – so you have Paul, right?

01:37:48.000 And he is like a convert.

01:37:51.000 He's a convert to believe in Christ.

01:37:54.000 And he was a Jew, and he was like going around preaching about Jesus and all this stuff.

01:37:59.000 And the Romans got really mad, and they prosecuted him, and they came after him and everything.

01:38:04.000 And he was like, but I am a Roman citizen.

01:38:05.000 You can't do that to me.

01:38:07.000 And they were like, oh, snap.

01:38:08.000 You're a Roman citizen.

01:38:10.000 That means we can't just arrest you with no due process because we're going to get in super trouble because you can't do that to a Roman citizen.

01:38:16.000 There were legal disputes.

01:38:17.000 You had documents testifying your background.

01:38:22.000 Manumission records if someone was once a slave and then they bought their way out.

01:38:26.000 How do you buy freedom from being a slave?

01:38:30.000 Some of them had their own private.

01:38:31.000 They were allowed to actually earn money because their owners allowed them to do it and they were able to save up and buy their freedom.

01:38:38.000 It was like a slave to own thing.

01:38:40.000 Slavery in the Roman Empire wasn't the same kind of chattel slavery that we had here in the United States.

01:38:46.000 In the United States, you had people who bought their own slavery? 0.94

01:38:48.000 Yes, you did.

01:38:50.000 And they were able to buy their family members out of slavery as well.

01:38:54.000 Yeah, but that was also...

01:38:55.000 If I understand correctly, the way that slaves in the U.S. were treated was as if they were like a beast of burden, like a cow or like a...

01:39:05.000 They were.

01:39:05.000 That's the way they were treated.

01:39:06.000 In fact, that was one of the interesting debates of the Constitutional Convention of the slave state representatives.

01:39:14.000 We want them to count as human beings in the census to give us more representation in the House.

01:39:20.000 Which is why the three-fifths compromise.

01:39:21.000 But no, actually we want to treat them as property every other time.

01:39:25.000 Isn't it funny though that most people have an inverted view of the three-fifths compromise?

01:39:31.000 Liberals tend to argue that the South wanted slaves to be only three-fifths of a person.

01:39:35.000 No, the South wanted them to be full people.

01:39:37.000 They wanted census.

01:39:39.000 They cut their power by 40% in the U.S. House.

01:39:41.000 That's what the Northern... 0.75

01:39:43.000 Mm-hmm.

01:39:59.000 But yeah, slavery in the Roman Empire was different to the kind of slavery that was here in the U.S. and in the colonies and broadly, like the Atlantic slave trade.

01:40:10.000 And I think that slavery in Africa today and in the Middle East today is different to both.

01:40:17.000 I think it's worse.

01:40:18.000 Maybe.

01:40:19.000 Worse there?

01:40:20.000 I don't know.

01:40:20.000 I think it was probably worse in the Middle East a while back.

01:40:24.000 Slavery?

01:40:25.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 Well, there's still slavery in the Middle East.

01:40:27.000 Yeah, but I'm saying if you go back a thousand years or whatever with, like, the jihad and all that stuff, it was probably substantially worse.

01:40:33.000 They probably would just say, you're a slave and you work till you die.

01:40:36.000 We don't feed you. 0.97

01:40:36.000 You know, things like that. 0.97

01:40:37.000 That was true in Greece, too.

01:40:39.000 You'll notice in Judeo-Christian civilization there is no slavery anymore.

01:40:43.000 Anymore.

01:40:45.000 Well, I mean, that was one of the...

01:40:49.000 When the British ended slavery, they were the first society to end slavery.

01:40:54.000 And it was William Wilberforce who led decades-long campaign to end slavery inside the British Empire.

01:41:00.000 He is one of the greatest figures ever in British history.

01:41:04.000 And as much as considering the fact that the West gets so much hell from itself, from other people in the West, they ignore the fact that no other society ever ended slavery.

01:41:18.000 Notice that the British and Western, they're the only society that ever ended slavery.

01:41:25.000 They didn't just end it in one country.

01:41:26.000 They ended it basically throughout the whole British Empire, which was almost the whole world.

01:41:32.000 Of their own volition, paid out significant sums of money over the course of years to actually end the process.

01:41:39.000 Pretty amazing.

01:41:40.000 It also saves...

01:41:41.000 I mean, you think about how the British did it versus us, because we refused to actually address it and confront it. 0.82

01:41:46.000 There were some...

01:41:47.000 Very bad calculations made at the turn of the 19th century in which they thought it would die of its own volition.

01:41:53.000 It did not.

01:41:54.000 Cotton gin, all that other stuff that continued it on.

01:41:57.000 British Empire ended of its own volition.

01:41:59.000 No massive bloodshed.

01:42:01.000 We did not.

01:42:03.000 Massive bloodshed.

01:42:04.000 And then we finally got it right, obviously, in 1865, but still.

01:42:08.000 More people died in one battle in the Civil War than died in the whole Vietnam War.

01:42:13.000 Yeah, in the whole Vietnam War. 0.56

01:42:14.000 More Americans, I'm sorry. 1.00

01:42:15.000 Which battle?

01:42:17.000 Gettysburg.

01:42:17.000 Gettysburg, yeah.

01:42:18.000 Gettysburg.

01:42:19.000 Antinam, I think, was the bloodiest day in U.S. history, and the bloodiest battle was Gettysburg.

01:42:25.000 Because it lasted for more than one...

01:42:26.000 Three days.

01:42:27.000 Three days, yeah.

01:42:28.000 54,000 people.

01:42:29.000 It's wild.

01:42:30.000 The South could have won at the first battle.

01:42:34.000 Yeah.

01:42:34.000 Battle of Bull Run.

01:42:35.000 They could have just walked into D.C. and it was over.

01:42:37.000 But the South was like, no, no, we don't want war.

01:42:40.000 We just want them to leave us alone.

01:42:41.000 Yeah, leave us alone.

01:42:42.000 And the North was like, nah.

01:42:43.000 And then the manufacturing and manpower just eventually crushed them.

01:42:47.000 Yep, they had better weapons.

01:42:48.000 They had breech-loading rifles.

01:42:51.000 And the South was still using muskets in Gettysburg.

01:42:53.000 I watched this really cool documentary.

01:42:56.000 Because Gettysburg's right here.

01:42:57.000 It's like a 40-minute drive.

01:42:58.000 Antietam's right here.

01:42:58.000 Yeah, Antietam's down the street.

01:43:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:00.000 Which is a really cool battlefield.

01:43:02.000 You can't walk to Antietam.

01:43:03.000 You should go there September 17th.

01:43:04.000 That's the anniversary of it.

01:43:05.000 We found a rusty bayonet on this property, actually.

01:43:08.000 Oh, wow.

01:43:09.000 If you take a metal detector on this property, you're going to find Civil War stuff.

01:43:12.000 So September 17th is the anniversary of Antietam.

01:43:14.000 It's also Constitution Day.

01:43:15.000 But if you go to Antietam on the anniversary, they have park rangers at key points of the battle with living history.

01:43:22.000 It is a really cool experience.

01:43:23.000 I would argue Gettysburg's an amazing battlefield to visit.

01:43:26.000 Antietam's right there with it.

01:43:27.000 It's a really fascinating battlefield.

01:43:29.000 Gettysburg's also got a great chocolate shop.

01:43:32.000 Really?

01:43:33.000 No, but what's the, is it Sharps? 0.98

01:43:36.000 What's the town near Antietam?

01:43:39.000 Sharpsburg.

01:43:40.000 Are you sure?

01:43:41.000 They have an amazing ice cream shop.

01:43:45.000 It is incredible.

01:43:46.000 We go there all the time.

01:43:47.000 Yeah, we took our kids, we took them through the battlefield on the anniversary of the 17th, and then we found this ice cream shop.

01:43:52.000 I want to go back just for the ice cream.

01:43:54.000 Nutters.

01:43:55.000 Nutters, yes.

01:43:55.000 And it's like for a dollar, they give you like a gallon.

01:43:58.000 You know, that was the funny, my wife was like, I can't believe that we just paid six, we have four kids, there were six of us, like, how did we just pay that?

01:44:06.000 Little for, like, kids are walking in front of balance.

01:44:08.000 And there's lines out the door.

01:44:09.000 Yes.

01:44:10.000 Yeah, so that spot's super close to our old studio.

01:44:14.000 We used to hop on our mopeds and all just go right up to Sharpsburg because it was like 15 minutes and you go through this winding, like, forest path.

01:44:19.000 It's so pretty.

01:44:20.000 That's a gorgeous path.

01:44:21.000 And there's also a little pub across the street where they got great wings.

01:44:25.000 What is that?

01:44:25.000 Captain Benders?

01:44:26.000 Is that what it is?

01:44:27.000 Yep.

01:44:29.000 Sharpsburg, man.

01:44:30.000 I'm going back.

01:44:31.000 It's crazy.

01:44:32.000 And you've got John Brown.

01:44:34.000 Because Harper's Ferry is right here, too.

01:44:35.000 You've got John Brown's raid headquarters.

01:44:37.000 And then you basically drive on any road.

01:44:41.000 We would hop on our mopeds and just drive down the road in this whole area.

01:44:44.000 There's placards everywhere and cannons everywhere.

01:44:46.000 And it's like, yeah, you live where people killed each other.

01:44:49.000 Yeah.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, Harper's Ferry is one of the most haunted places in the country, apparently.

01:44:55.000 Oh, wow.

01:44:56.000 I don't know.

01:44:57.000 We've got ghosts here.

01:44:58.000 Yeah.

01:44:59.000 Really?

01:44:59.000 There's a cemetery on the property from the late 1700s or early 1800s, I think.

01:45:06.000 And the gravestones have all fallen over and they're washed out.

01:45:10.000 I think they were telling us that some of the bones may have come up and washed away or whatever because of a creek right there or something like that.

01:45:17.000 I don't know.

01:45:18.000 But we keep hearing ghost stories from the employees.

01:45:21.000 Really?

01:45:22.000 Here?

01:45:22.000 Yeah.

01:45:23.000 Like what?

01:45:24.000 Well, Tales from the Inverted World kept trying to get their computer set up and weird things kept happening.

01:45:27.000 Oh, I remember Shane was telling me about that.

01:45:28.000 And that's an 1800s barnhouse.

01:45:30.000 Yeah.

01:45:31.000 The ceilings are like six and a half feet.

01:45:33.000 Because, you know, people were really short back then.

01:45:35.000 Well, they're also trying to keep heat in the rooms.

01:45:37.000 Yeah, it's kind of wild how low the ceilings are.

01:45:41.000 So Tales from the Inverted World is a show that Shane Cashman hosts.

01:45:44.000 And it's supposed to be like weird, wild conspiracy and things like this.

01:45:49.000 The computer would break in weird ways that we largely attributed to human error, but one day when the computer broke, the graphics card just fell out.

01:46:00.000 Anybody who's put a computer together is going to be like, how did that happen?

01:46:04.000 They were sitting in the room and it went, and the computer shuts off and they're like, what?

01:46:08.000 And they look and it fell out of the machine.

01:46:10.000 And it's just like, that's weird.

01:46:12.000 And a bunch of other weird things happen.

01:46:14.000 Cameras just fall down.

01:46:17.000 That's wacky.

01:46:17.000 Floors won't open.

01:46:18.000 Has anybody seen any...

01:46:20.000 The basement is super creepy.

01:46:21.000 This is a thin place where the other world and this world meet.

01:46:27.000 I don't know.

01:46:28.000 All I know is the front building is from the 1800s.

01:46:32.000 It's an 1800s farmhouse and so it's got a lot of history and then for whatever reason, you know, ghosts.

01:46:38.000 Ghosts.

01:46:38.000 Yes.

01:46:39.000 That proves it.

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01:47:35.000 AlphaTurkey says, Tim, they're using Californian taxes to build Zola's algorithm and execute it using Lockheed's CL-1201.

01:47:42.000 Also, houses in Cali are made from wood to be earthquake-proof, and if hot enough, metal will burn.

01:47:48.000 Indeed, it will.

01:47:50.000 You know?

01:47:52.000 Magnesium burns.

01:47:53.000 Yes, it does.

01:47:55.000 Yeah.

01:47:56.000 Whenever you see, like, the people with the big drum and there's a fire over it, magnesium fire.

01:48:01.000 Aluminum burns, too.

01:48:02.000 Does it really?

01:48:03.000 I assume it all burns, you know?

01:48:06.000 How about that?

01:48:08.000 Okay, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:48:11.000 Anthony Shaw says, with talent on loan from God.

01:48:14.000 Okay.

01:48:16.000 Jason Nixon says, you often pitch your website to join the culture, to join Discord and members doing great things.

01:48:21.000 Have you ever considered shouting out Roman Nation and It's Based Gaming, both from your Discord? 0.90

01:48:26.000 I did that earlier today on one of the morning segments.

01:48:28.000 I shout out Roman Nation.

01:48:30.000 But I also want to shout out the, what is it, Seven Days to Die?

01:48:33.000 That's the game?

01:48:34.000 Mm-hmm.

01:48:35.000 The TimCast Discord server has its own community zombie game server, Seven Days to Today, I think it's called, where you can play games with a bunch of people.

01:48:45.000 I'm telling you, man, it is...

01:48:47.000 You know, I gotta be honest.

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01:49:00.000 That's just 20,000 people all doing really cool stuff, and you're hanging out.

01:49:05.000 For me, it's like you're helping make the company exist, so thank you.

01:49:09.000 Thank you.

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01:49:21.000 All right, we'll grab some more.

01:49:22.000 Shot of Jammo. 0.92

01:49:25.000 Should I compromise my values and get a Planet Fitness membership to help my overweight friend get in shape or keep my values and not give Planet Fitness money?

01:49:35.000 Don't give Planet Fitness money if I avoid it.

01:49:38.000 I mean, look, I say that, but I do have a Planet Fitness membership because I travel a lot.

01:49:44.000 Pardon me?

01:49:44.000 Why wouldn't you join?

01:49:46.000 Why is this a moral question?

01:49:47.000 Super woke.

01:49:48.000 That and also because they're the...

01:49:50.000 You let fellas in the ladies' rooms. 1.00

01:49:52.000 Yeah.

01:49:52.000 They do.

01:49:53.000 But more than that, it's not really for people that seriously want to lift the weights.

01:49:58.000 They have a lunk alarm.

01:50:00.000 Yep.

01:50:01.000 That you can spin the thing and it goes...

01:50:03.000 Or something like that.

01:50:04.000 Yeah, I've never heard one go off, but if you're grunting or making noise when you're lifting weights, they'll go ahead and embarrass you and try and shame you.

01:50:11.000 Because the argument is we don't want this to be where the meatheads lift weights and stuff, and so they're like, well, we want to have everybody come in here.

01:50:21.000 But really, what they want is people that aren't very serious to come in.

01:50:24.000 Because you sign up for a membership and never come back, which means the wear and tear on them.

01:50:29.000 And you can't cancel.

01:50:31.000 It's very hard to cancel gym membership.

01:50:32.000 Oh, really?

01:50:33.000 Well, because when you sign up, it says a bunch of stuff about, like...

01:50:35.000 I've never joined a gym.

01:50:36.000 Yeah, it says, like, you're signing up for two years, and if you cancel, we'll still charge you.

01:50:41.000 I take any money I would have used on a gym membership, and I just buy my equipment for my basement.

01:50:46.000 I was really pissed during COVID. That's a good business.

01:50:48.000 I'm going to open a gym.

01:50:49.000 I had a gym membership, and I went to the gym, like, every day, and then during COVID, they were like, you have to work out in a mask, and I was like, I can't.

01:50:59.000 And they had all these dividers.

01:51:00.000 And I was like, whenever I come here, there's no space for me.

01:51:03.000 And you're making me wear a mask.

01:51:04.000 You need to let me out of this contract.

01:51:07.000 And they wouldn't.

01:51:08.000 It was infuriating.

01:51:10.000 They changed the terms of the deal and then didn't let me stop paying.

01:51:14.000 Depending on the gym, you look at the monthlies over the course of a couple years.

01:51:17.000 It was New York Sports Club.

01:51:18.000 But it adds up.

01:51:19.000 And then you just go, I have that money to be able to invest in a certain amount of equipment.

01:51:23.000 Do you guys ever see that video where the woman's doing the leg press?

01:51:26.000 And then her feet go all the way out? 0.94

01:51:28.000 It's so gross.

01:51:29.000 Oh, dear God. 0.62

01:51:31.000 Yeah.

01:51:32.000 I do what you do.

01:51:33.000 I have a treadmill.

01:51:35.000 I have a little exercise bike.

01:51:37.000 Never lock your knees.

01:51:38.000 Yeah.

01:51:38.000 Ever.

01:51:39.000 Why would you ever do that?

01:51:42.000 Bad decisions?

01:51:43.000 Bad decisions.

01:51:44.000 I have a yoga mat.

01:51:45.000 Yeah, I do stuff at my head.

01:51:47.000 Let's see.

01:51:48.000 What have we here?

01:51:49.000 Not a banned account says undocumented Americans are Americans too.

01:51:54.000 No.

01:51:55.000 No.

01:51:56.000 What do you mean undocumented Americans?

01:51:58.000 Do you remember when they were trying to do the whole undocumented citizens thing? 0.95

01:52:01.000 Yeah.

01:52:02.000 They always try.

01:52:04.000 They started saying undocumented citizen because then it means why can't citizens vote?

01:52:10.000 Right.

01:52:11.000 Undocumented citizens.

01:52:12.000 Right.

01:52:13.000 It's awesome antics to try and achieve what they want.

01:52:16.000 Yeah.

01:52:17.000 There's no such thing as an undocumented.

01:52:19.000 No, it was just in regard to the gyms.

01:52:21.000 I think the Federal Trade Commission did something good for once.

01:52:23.000 They said that in April 2025, gyms and other businesses were required to make an easy-to-cancel policy in order to stop this from happening, essentially get someone in the door and then never let them leave.

01:52:36.000 Yeah, but I don't completely disagree.

01:52:38.000 The issue is...

01:52:39.000 People go to the gym and say, I want to sign up for this gym.

01:52:42.000 And the gym's just like, okay, well, there's like a capacity on how many people could be at any time at once.

01:52:46.000 So if you sign up, are you seriously going to be signing up?

01:52:48.000 And they go, sure, and then they never show up again.

01:52:50.000 So, sure, some of the gyms are like, you know, we're going to try and squeeze pennies out of you.

01:52:57.000 I think it's largely, as a business, you're like, if everybody just came in...

01:53:02.000 And signed up and then left.

01:53:03.000 We couldn't function as a business.

01:53:04.000 So if you're signing up, you're signing up for six months.

01:53:06.000 Yeah, I was going to say, you have to have like a minimum six months.

01:53:08.000 And after that, if they want to cancel, they cancel.

01:53:10.000 Yeah.

01:53:11.000 You can't actually build a revenue stream that's consistent as a business if you don't have some commitment.

01:53:16.000 And everybody signs up January 3rd and then never shows up again.

01:53:20.000 What are they called?

01:53:21.000 Quitting day?

01:53:22.000 I think it's like second Friday.

01:53:24.000 There's something called Quitters Day.

01:53:26.000 No, I think it's sometime like second Friday or second Saturday in January.

01:53:31.000 Like, people last for a couple weeks.

01:53:33.000 Yeah.

01:53:34.000 Quitter's Day.

01:53:34.000 Yeah.

01:53:35.000 That was the 10th.

01:53:36.000 10th.

01:53:37.000 Second Friday of January, every each year marking day when many people abandon their New Year's resolution.

01:53:42.000 I don't even have a resolution. 0.97

01:53:45.000 That's pretty pathetic when you think about it. 0.99

01:53:46.000 It's nuts. 0.99

01:53:46.000 You don't make it past January 10th. 0.99

01:53:48.000 It's sort of dumb to make a New Year's resolution.

01:53:50.000 Like, if you are resolved to do something different with your life, start now.

01:53:55.000 Like, just start now.

01:53:56.000 Just do it now.

01:53:57.000 Just do it.

01:53:58.000 Right now.

01:53:58.000 Wait, is that a thing?

01:54:00.000 What's that from?

01:54:01.000 I've heard that before.

01:54:02.000 The thing about that phrase and stuff is people are really, really good at saying, I'm going to do this.

01:54:08.000 And what happens is you get the same dopamine hit about...

01:54:12.000 From talking about the thing you want to do as you do from actually going and doing something.

01:54:17.000 Swear to God, that's why people do it.

01:54:19.000 That's why there's so many people that are like, oh, I'm going to do this.

01:54:22.000 You'll talk about it forever.

01:54:23.000 Don't tell people, and you don't need to prepare, blah, blah, blah.

01:54:27.000 Just go start.

01:54:29.000 Starting is the most important.

01:54:30.000 Is it 21 days to create a habit?

01:54:32.000 Yes, 21 days.

01:54:33.000 And that's because there's actual physical pathways in your brain that actually have to break down.

01:54:38.000 Yeah, but then also your body becomes addicted.

01:54:41.000 To the process and to the dopamine, everything that's released by working out, that's why I'm like, if you can do it for 21 days, there are good addictions in life, and that's one of them, where you have to, your body craves it.

01:54:54.000 So, you have to go 21 days.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, if I don't work out for a couple days or something, my body feels all tense and my legs feel bad.

01:55:03.000 It's terrible.

01:55:04.000 And I'm a better person for it.

01:55:07.000 Alright, Schlip says, did you guys see the bill to repeal the NFA? Doesn't someone introduce that, like, all the time, though?

01:55:12.000 It's the NFA. National Firearms Act.

01:55:15.000 It's what makes short-barrel rifles, short-barrel shotguns, and suppressors federally regulated.

01:55:22.000 By the way, though, did you see the news report today?

01:55:24.000 There's 490 million privately owned guns in this country.

01:55:28.000 Get those numbers up.

01:55:29.000 As are rookie numbers.

01:55:30.000 They are rookie.

01:55:31.000 I say this is a nice start.

01:55:33.000 To buy more guns and ammo, we should hit 500 million on July 4th.

01:55:37.000 We're talking about 1.5 guns per person, if not even, 1.3?

01:55:40.000 I think it's basically in the hands of like 100 to 110 million.

01:55:44.000 I think is what it...

01:55:46.000 I think I own tattoos.

01:55:47.000 Once you get one, you just can't stop getting them.

01:55:50.000 I think I own probably like 50-something with that.

01:55:53.000 Then you start building them.

01:55:56.000 Haven't done that.

01:55:57.000 Oh, it's fun.

01:55:58.000 You're going to get a 3D printer?

01:56:00.000 Most of the...

01:56:00.000 I wanted to build a Makarov carbine.

01:56:04.000 Yeah.

01:56:06.000 Because a funny thing happened when Luke came over and then he was telling me ammo prices are going up so you should stock up with some 9mm.

01:56:13.000 And then I just went on ammo.com and just clicked 9mm and I just clicked the button a bunch.

01:56:17.000 And when it showed up, it was Makarov and Soviet bullets.

01:56:22.000 I think 3x18.

01:56:24.000 Yeah, you just gotta...

01:56:24.000 And so Luke and I looked at him and they were like, it's written in Cyrillic.

01:56:28.000 And we were like, yeah, this is wrong.

01:56:29.000 And then Ammo.com emails me and they were like, we realize you probably weren't intending to buy Makarov at that scale.

01:56:34.000 And I was like, you are correct, but it's okay.

01:56:37.000 I want to keep them.

01:56:38.000 And so I was just like, we just need to make a weapon that uses them.

01:56:42.000 AR-9.

01:56:43.000 Did you make the weapon?

01:56:43.000 Is that what uses them?

01:56:44.000 No.

01:56:45.000 Yeah, AR-9s are awesome.

01:56:46.000 No, there's something called like a PA, what is it?

01:56:50.000 PA something?

01:56:51.000 I don't know.

01:56:52.000 You should either build or buy an AR-9.

01:56:55.000 It sounds like a souped-up.22.

01:56:57.000 It has the same tiny bit more kick than a.22.

01:57:01.000 PA-63, was that it?

01:57:02.000 They're a fun gun.

01:57:03.000 AR-9s. 0.90

01:57:04.000 AR-9s. 0.90

01:57:05.000 I've got two Makarov handguns.

01:57:08.000 They're Soviet. 0.87

01:57:09.000 I think it's the PA-63.

01:57:10.000 Is that what it is?

01:57:11.000 I don't know.

01:57:13.000 Let me check.

01:57:14.000 I'm looking at the...

01:57:15.000 Yep.

01:57:16.000 Yep, I got two of those, and it's funny because...

01:57:20.000 It is like miserably bad.

01:57:23.000 They're ergonomic for the right hand only.

01:57:25.000 It looks miserably bad.

01:57:27.000 It's miserably bad.

01:57:27.000 It bites your hand.

01:57:29.000 It hurts.

01:57:30.000 And wearing a glove don't help.

01:57:33.000 When we would go to the range, nobody would want to use it.

01:57:35.000 And I'm like, well, let's think about the Soviets. 0.80

01:57:37.000 They didn't care if it hurt.

01:57:38.000 They just cared that it worked.

01:57:40.000 Cheap gun.

01:57:41.000 But the funny thing is it's right hand ergonomic.

01:57:44.000 One of my funny stories is my wife one year gave me a gift certificate to a local gun shop.

01:57:49.000 Because I really wanted to get a nice hunting over-under shotgun.

01:57:52.000 And I went into the store and he's like, we don't have any.

01:57:55.000 And he's like, right now it's probably going to be on back order.

01:57:57.000 And then I saw a semi-auto MK1919 Assault 12-gauge shotgun.

01:58:02.000 I was like, well, that looks fun.

01:58:03.000 I'll buy that instead.

01:58:04.000 Came home and I'm always like, I gave you a certificate to get a nice hunting shotgun and you come home with this?

01:58:10.000 I'm like, yeah.

01:58:11.000 So then I went next level and bought a 20-round drum for it.

01:58:15.000 It's a great gun.

01:58:16.000 MKA-1919.

01:58:18.000 It's been a while since I went to the range of these.

01:58:20.000 9x18, is that what it is?

01:58:21.000 9x18, why did I say 3?

01:58:22.000 Yeah, 9x18.

01:58:24.000 I've got, it's the 410 shotgun that's AK style.

01:58:29.000 Do you know what it's called?

01:58:29.000 I don't.

01:58:30.000 It's been a while since.

01:58:31.000 410?

01:58:32.000 Yeah.

01:58:33.000 And I got a 100 round drum on it.

01:58:35.000 Are you serious?

01:58:36.000 Yeah.

01:58:36.000 Those are 410. So I'll sometimes go into the- Sega?

01:58:40.000 I have a shooting range.

01:58:41.000 Yeah, yeah, I think that's what it is.

01:58:43.000 Huh.

01:58:44.000 And I'll just load up the 20-round drum for the shotgun and just...

01:58:47.000 You just unload it.

01:58:49.000 Yeah, it's a 410 Sega, I think.

01:58:52.000 Sega is...

01:58:54.000 They make AK-style shotguns in 410. And I got 100...

01:58:58.000 I think it's a 100-round 410 drum.

01:59:00.000 It's huge. 0.96

01:59:00.000 And it's silly. 0.96

01:59:02.000 And it's so much fun.

01:59:03.000 Dude, they're heavy.

01:59:04.000 When you fully load up those drums...

01:59:06.000 It's heavy.

01:59:09.000 It's a heavy gun.

01:59:10.000 Fun.

01:59:10.000 Yes.

01:59:11.000 And then I got a...

01:59:12.000 What, a KSG-25 is what it is?

01:59:15.000 I've got a lot of guns, Tim.

01:59:16.000 I do.

01:59:16.000 I've got a Barrett.

01:59:18.000 Luke was trying to get me to buy a Gatling, like a miniature 9mm Gatling gun, and I was like, Luke, this is too much.

01:59:28.000 It's too money.

01:59:29.000 You need to buy at least one M16 fully auto rifle.

01:59:32.000 You can buy them.

01:59:33.000 They're available.

01:59:34.000 It's going to cost you like 40, 50 grand for a good one, but you should buy one.

01:59:37.000 Yeah, but you need to stamp and all that.

01:59:38.000 It takes forever.

01:59:39.000 Well, yeah, but it does.

01:59:40.000 But, I mean, you've got time.

01:59:41.000 I don't have time.

01:59:42.000 No, all you do is fill out the paperwork, and then they do all the stuff.

01:59:46.000 You don't have to.

01:59:46.000 It's not like you have to jump through.

01:59:47.000 The paperwork's crazy.

01:59:48.000 It is a lot of paperwork.

01:59:49.000 I don't have time.

01:59:50.000 Seriously.

01:59:50.000 They do it on purpose.

01:59:52.000 Yeah.

01:59:52.000 As people, you can't do it.

01:59:54.000 All right.

01:59:54.000 Where are we at?

01:59:55.000 Where are we at?

01:59:55.000 We'll grab a couple more Super Chats here.

01:59:58.000 Let's jump all the way down. 0.92

01:59:59.000 What do we got?

02:00:00.000 I'm going to keep sending you.

02:00:02.000 Big 7588 says, so many guns lost overboard every year.

02:00:06.000 Indeed.

02:00:07.000 One of my favorites is a 22 single action revolver.

02:00:12.000 That's a nice one.

02:00:14.000 Little itty bitty.

02:00:15.000 Cowboy gun.

02:00:16.000 All right, let's see.

02:00:18.000 We'll grab one more.

02:00:20.000 BATM says, Latin mass Catholicism or Orthodox Christianity, Eastern or otherwise, something with ancient meaning, what we rally behind can't be insubstantial.

02:00:30.000 Correct.

02:00:31.000 I like that.

02:00:31.000 I've been to Latin mass.

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02:00:52.000 Yeah, can I shout out the new book?

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02:00:58.000 It came out in September.

02:00:58.000 Birth of the Administrative State.

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02:01:09.000 Good stuff.

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