Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 19, 2025


DHS Vows To HUNT DOWN Leftist Terrorists Amid SWATTINGS & Tesla TERROR w-Peter St Onge | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

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2 hours and 2 minutes

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197.45871

Word Count

24,113

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2,094

Misogynist Sentences

23

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

On today's show, we have a new segment called "The Green Room" where we talk about the things going on in the world and the things we should be talking about. Today we cover: - Antifa swatters target conservative media and activists - Elon Musk is funding Republican politicians who may impeach judges who are impeding Donald Trump - Steve Bannon says that Trump is running for a third term - and more!


Transcript

00:00:29.000 The DHS will hunt down the swatters targeting conservative figures.
00:00:34.000 Over this last night, several more individuals were targeted, notably Owen Schroier of Infoors, and he published a video, and it's actually rather terrifying when you see it.
00:00:46.000 Well, firstly, because these men have guns pointed at his house and he walked out carrying his phone and they were like, drop it.
00:00:51.000 And he's like, I'm going to record this.
00:00:52.000 They make him take his shirt off, walk backwards, get on the grounds, put his hand on his head.
00:00:56.000 And this is what the leftists are trying to do.
00:00:59.000 Now, it's not just the swatting.
00:01:01.000 It is also the attacks on Tesla, the domestic terror.
00:01:04.000 Pam Bondi says this is domestic terror issuing a statement from the DOJ.
00:01:12.000 Hopefully, we get some accountability before things escalate too much, but we do have many more stories, not just of the swattings, but of people vandalizing Tesla vehicles.
00:01:20.000 In one video, a guy swings a luggage bag at the vehicle causing thousands of dollars with the damage.
00:01:26.000 And there's another video guy sticks his hands on the back of his pants, and, yeah, you can figure out where that's going.
00:01:32.000 Yikes. Now, Elon Musk is funding GOP politicians who may impeach these judges impeding Donald Trump because it's not just right now, guys, please don't freak out, but it's not just the turning around the trend day-Iragua criminal aliens that Trump has the full authority to do.
00:01:50.000 It's not just that.
00:01:51.000 They tried to stop him.
00:01:52.000 They send him out anyway.
00:01:53.000 It's not just that a judge ruled that there is no prohibition on any DSM-5 mental disorder in the military.
00:02:02.000 I In putting an injunction on Trump's banning of transgender military personnel from serving, the judge went so far as to say, all means all and anyone should be allowed to enlist.
00:02:16.000 This means that if you are suffering from paranoid delusions and schizophrenia and you can't tell up from down, you must be affirmed in your belief and allowed to enlist in the military.
00:02:25.000 This is the craziest thing I've heard.
00:02:27.000 And then, as I said, don't freak out, a judge has ordered male inmates into a female prison.
00:02:33.000 And I know that one's going to light people up quite a bit and get them pretty angry.
00:02:36.000 So Elon Musk says, let's impeach these judges.
00:02:39.000 But you're going to need two-thirds of the Senate, not likely to happen.
00:02:42.000 Some activists are saying, just use a simple majority and defund their districts and take away any federal grants they got and see how quick this stops.
00:02:50.000 There's a lot more to talk about, ladies and gentlemen.
00:02:52.000 Steve Bannon says that Trump is going to run for a third term, which I think is just silly, but sure, we'll talk about it.
00:02:58.000 And Greenpeace has been ordered to pay $660 million over the Dakota Access Pipeline protest.
00:03:05.000 Crazy stuff.
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00:04:14.000 We had pretty fun.
00:04:14.000 It was a really, really great conversation in the green room show today.
00:04:18.000 I really do recommend it.
00:04:19.000 These green room episodes range from us goofing off and kind of wasting time, but it's funny to really serious conversations about the end of the world, the apocalypse, and serious social issues.
00:04:30.000 The idea behind the green room was when the guests are coming in and relaxing before the show starts, everybody's talking.
00:04:36.000 And at some point I said, guys, we should film that because that's a really great conversation.
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00:04:41.000 It's very news-oriented, but this conversation you're having right now needs to be heard by many people.
00:04:46.000 And so today's episode will be up in about an hour.
00:04:49.000 But the L.E.A.
00:04:50.000 Perez episode was actually hilarious because I was just complaining about woke video games.
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00:04:55.000 Share the show with everyone you know.
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00:05:06.000 It's purely symbolic, but it seems to work.
00:05:08.000 People really want to just mash the like button when I say that.
00:05:11.000 I don't think anything will happen to that guy, but we hope for a swift accountability.
00:05:16.000 But again, share the show.
00:05:17.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this.
00:05:18.000 And so much more is Peter St. Ange.
00:05:20.000 Thanks for having me on, Tim.
00:05:22.000 Who are you?
00:05:22.000 What do you do?
00:05:23.000 So I'm a former professor.
00:05:25.000 I was teaching at an NBA program out in Taiwan, felt like I was kind of not really in the fight way over there.
00:05:30.000 I wasn't manning the wall.
00:05:32.000 Came back, worked at a think tank up in Montreal.
00:05:35.000 COVID-19 hit.
00:05:36.000 Everybody got wiped out.
00:05:37.000 Came to the U.S., where I'm from, joined the Heritage Foundation.
00:05:42.000 And about two years ago, I started doing daily videos on freedom of economics.
00:05:47.000 Those took off.
00:05:48.000 I was kind of surprised.
00:05:49.000 They're very short, three and a half minutes, so not too painful.
00:05:53.000 And that kind of blew up.
00:05:55.000 Everybody shares your videos on X. A lot of people share them, and honestly, it was Elon.
00:06:00.000 As soon as Elon bought Twitter, I immediately sat down.
00:06:05.000 Like, before then, I figured, okay, why start anything?
00:06:07.000 It's just going to get censored.
00:06:09.000 Why bother?
00:06:10.000 You know, you spend whatever months and months building something up, and then it gets nuked.
00:06:14.000 As soon as he bought Twitter, I started making plans and then got it up like four months after.
00:06:18.000 So huge impact from Elon.
00:06:21.000 Right on.
00:06:22.000 Well, I'm looking forward.
00:06:23.000 We were, to the conversation, we were talking a bit about economics, taxes, gold, and what the apocalypse will look like.
00:06:29.000 And considering all this news about far-left violence, we're going to need to consider, is it going to be bottle caps, maybe lipstick?
00:06:35.000 But we'll get into that.
00:06:36.000 Thanks for hanging out.
00:06:37.000 Ian's here.
00:06:38.000 Yeah, I'm pumped, man.
00:06:38.000 You said you were part.
00:06:40.000 You identify with the libertarian models of thought, but you don't get into that libertarian party.
00:06:46.000 Right. Anyway, we'll go deeper into it on the show.
00:06:48.000 I'm just happy to be back, you guys.
00:06:49.000 Tonight, for the first time, I'm on the Rumble app.
00:06:51.000 I've been on the YouTube app every night.
00:06:53.000 I've got it up on my phone during the show watching the chat.
00:06:55.000 Tonight, it's Rumble.
00:06:56.000 So get over there, get in there, and say hi.
00:06:58.000 I'm Ian Crossland.
00:06:59.000 Glad to be back, Phil Labonte.
00:07:02.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, all that remains.
00:07:04.000 And I'm an anti-communist and a counter revolutionary.
00:07:06.000 I did want to point out that, uh, our guest tonight, it was, is a Austrian economist, uh, and he is not friendly to the libertarian party.
00:07:17.000 And that is something after my own heart, I like a lot of libertarian ideas.
00:07:20.000 The Libertarian Party is the most annoying thing in the world.
00:07:22.000 Let's get into it.
00:07:23.000 Yeah, right, like real quick, anarcho-capitalist?
00:07:27.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:07:28.000 So not one of these graph go up Lulbertarians?
00:07:30.000 Right. And I hope we can get into that during the show.
00:07:34.000 Yeah, definitely.
00:07:35.000 Yeah, the reason for that.
00:07:36.000 All right.
00:07:36.000 Well, let's start with this.
00:07:37.000 We have two stories that kind of go hand in hand.
00:07:40.000 The first is the DHS.
00:07:41.000 We have the DHS and the DOJ targeting the far left extremist, the terror.
00:07:45.000 But we're going to start with the swatting because we've got an update.
00:07:47.000 Owen Schroier, the video put out, is insane.
00:07:50.000 DHS will hunt down swatters targeting conservative figures.
00:07:54.000 Secretary Christine Nome says under President Trump's leadership, we will not sit idly by.
00:07:57.000 As conservative new media and their families are being targeted by false swatting, DHSGov has the ability to trace phone numbers and track location information.
00:08:05.000 We will use it to hunt these cowards down.
00:08:07.000 This is an attack on our law enforcement and innocent families, and we will prosecute it as such.
00:08:12.000 Take a look at this.
00:08:13.000 Owen Shore tweeting, just got swatted.
00:08:17.000 This is just one of the videos he has, where police came to his door, weapons trained, and brought him out, made him take off his shirt, put his hands up, walked backwards.
00:08:27.000 This is manipulating law enforcement to force them to engage in or to cause terror of these individuals.
00:08:34.000 There were a couple other individuals that I saw.
00:08:37.000 Some of these individuals getting swatted are not particularly prominent, no disrespect, but it's local news picking it up.
00:08:43.000 The stories we see tend to be these big national figures, but then in the media, there are smaller conservative personalities being targeted as well.
00:08:50.000 Possible that it's foreign agents using like throughputs to get to a local number and...
00:08:57.000 I told Chase Geiser, who had experienced this a week ago or so, he was swatted.
00:09:01.000 And we talked and I was like, contact your local police department.
00:09:05.000 Let them know who you are, that you're a, you know, a streamer.
00:09:08.000 And if you are a streamer, you should do the same.
00:09:09.000 Get to know your local cops.
00:09:11.000 Because if they know who you are and they know you're prominent, if they get that call, they're going to know ahead of time that they don't necessarily need to kick the door down.
00:09:16.000 Yeah. There's probably some malfeasance going on.
00:09:18.000 That's a really good point.
00:09:19.000 It's worth knowing whether you're in the political realm or even if you're just a regular streamer, it's a good idea to let your local law enforcement know to the degree that you can.
00:09:31.000 I mean, if you're in a big city, it's harder to get in touch with police and make them aware.
00:09:36.000 But if you're in a smaller town.
00:09:37.000 You can definitely reach out to your local law enforcement and say, look, you know, I'm a low-level public figure, right?
00:09:43.000 Just, you know, don't try and pump yourself up, but just be like, look, if someone ever calls in these kind of calls, you know, let me know first, call me.
00:09:53.000 You can talk, I'll be, you know, I'll be there.
00:09:54.000 This kind of stuff happens from time to time, so it's a really good point, Ian.
00:09:58.000 Thanks. And additionally, if this kind of thing, I don't take sides on this, man.
00:10:02.000 If this kind of thing was happening too.
00:10:03.000 I do.
00:10:03.000 I'm on the side of the people that are not doing the swatting.
00:10:06.000 Exactly. The righteous path.
00:10:08.000 And if people were swatting, and I'll pick on you, Sam Cedar, who I love you, Sammy.
00:10:11.000 But you, for instance, who's considered on the left.
00:10:14.000 I would be up in arms if people were swatting people like Sam.
00:10:17.000 It's not cool, man.
00:10:18.000 So we got to get this resolved.
00:10:20.000 And I'm glad that they're doing it.
00:10:21.000 Sure. So I'll say this.
00:10:23.000 If you look to any prominent liberal, they're going to decry this and say, of course, we oppose this.
00:10:28.000 And then they're going to advocate for violence.
00:10:30.000 They're going to celebrate Luigi Mangione.
00:10:33.000 They're going to turn on Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert, who essentially encouraged people to commit acts of terrorism.
00:10:41.000 And I'll clarify this with full context.
00:10:43.000 Jimmy Kimmel made a joke where he goes, don't vandalize Tesla vehicles.
00:10:49.000 Anyway, and then everyone busts out laughing because the implication was to it.
00:10:53.000 And Stephen Colbert said he appreciates the tireless effort of the individual who vandalized a bunch of vehicles stealing their tires and said the reason he doesn't condone the violence, that that condemnation comes to the deepest pit of his CBS legal team.
00:11:08.000 The insinuation, of course, everyone laughed over the acts of terror.
00:11:11.000 I mean, they are shooting up buildings with guns.
00:11:15.000 The insinuation is, it's funny that people are doing it and they have no remorse.
00:11:20.000 So just real quick, for these prominent liberals who would dare come out and be like, we don't want any of this.
00:11:25.000 Yeah, tell Bill Burr to shut the up because these prominent individuals on your side keep calling for more.
00:11:32.000 Yeah. Look, the left, I've been in a bit of a back and forth with some people on X about this, whether or not this is terrorism.
00:11:40.000 There are people that are saying this isn't terrorism.
00:11:41.000 The intent is clearly to frighten people and to harm...
00:11:47.000 Harm Tesla, harm people that would buy Teslas, scare people away from supporting Teslas or buying their stock or whatever.
00:11:55.000 The intent is to use violence to frighten people for a political end.
00:12:00.000 It is a purely political thing.
00:12:03.000 And there's no question that that is the textbook definition of terrorism.
00:12:08.000 So the definition of terrorism is violence or intimidation for political ends.
00:12:13.000 Thank you.
00:12:14.000 The trick here is that for 50 years, it has not been prosecuted on the left.
00:12:18.000 And so the left just can't get it through their heads.
00:12:21.000 They burned down entire cities.
00:12:23.000 They just did it a couple years ago.
00:12:25.000 Nobody gets arrested.
00:12:26.000 If they do, it's a slap on the wrist.
00:12:28.000 So they can't get it through their heads that left-wing political terrorism is actually terrorism.
00:12:34.000 Yeah. I got to be it.
00:12:36.000 I think they're just fully aware of it.
00:12:38.000 They're just lying.
00:12:40.000 I mean...
00:12:40.000 You take a look at the court cases with Donald Trump.
00:12:43.000 The judges keep saying, Trump can't do this, Trump can't do that.
00:12:45.000 In the instance of the deportation, it is completely within Trump's authority to deport criminal aliens.
00:12:55.000 Obama did it, to a tremendous degree.
00:12:58.000 And they said, where are the trials for these individuals?
00:13:01.000 Ask Obama, I guess.
00:13:02.000 The point is this.
00:13:03.000 It's not about what aboutism.
00:13:04.000 It is they know Democrats have done this.
00:13:07.000 They did not care.
00:13:09.000 They are only pretending now that Trump does it.
00:13:12.000 They are claiming that Trump is pushing us towards a constitutional crisis when Trump uses executive authority as he's allowed.
00:13:18.000 And then their judges that violate jurisdiction that extend beyond their jurisdiction make orders of Trump, which he can't abide by, and then say he's causing the crisis.
00:13:29.000 This is the game.
00:13:30.000 They will engage in terror and then they will joke about it and claim it's not happening or act like they don't like it while encouraging it.
00:13:37.000 This is.
00:13:37.000 You're going to say something here.
00:13:39.000 Okay, about this, this Trump deportation, the judge trying to put his stand on it.
00:13:42.000 This is a bit of a tangent from this story, but I want to flesh this out.
00:13:45.000 So Trump said, Trende Araagua is a terrorist organization.
00:13:49.000 And then he said, now, by my legal authority, because they're a terrorist organization that has been invading at the whim of a government, at the will of a government, because he has the paperwork apparently, I can just get them out of here with this 1789 act and the illegal, whatever it was called.
00:14:04.000 mention that?
00:14:05.000 Because he was the one that said, so if he said this...
00:14:08.000 No, no, why mentioned 1789?
00:14:09.000 When the act was written.
00:14:10.000 So he's taking an old law.
00:14:11.000 It doesn't matter.
00:14:12.000 I'm just explaining this is the law he used.
00:14:14.000 He used a law.
00:14:15.000 Right. So don't bring up when it was codified.
00:14:16.000 It's a serial.
00:14:18.000 Okay. It's a tried and it's been in our government for hundreds of years for a reason because it's an important thing for the president to be able to do in a wartime situation or if there's an invasion.
00:14:27.000 So if Trump says...
00:14:29.000 The proud boys are a terrorist organization.
00:14:31.000 I'm declaring it.
00:14:32.000 Now I'm going to deport all of them.
00:14:34.000 You're like, you can't.
00:14:34.000 They're citizens.
00:14:35.000 Hold on.
00:14:36.000 Okay. But what if it was another foreign group that wasn't really terroristic and the president said they were and then started deporting them?
00:14:42.000 You'd think there'd be a lawsuit about the declaration of Tren de Aragua as a terrorist organization in that case.
00:14:46.000 Okay. So you have to take it back to the declaration itself.
00:14:49.000 That makes sense?
00:14:50.000 Right. So the one thing, the reason I bring up the year is that the corporate press has been using this 18th century law as a means of discrediting it.
00:14:58.000 When the great point was made the other day by our super chats, or actually this was yesterday morning on the morning show, murder is codified in law well before the existence of the United States.
00:15:07.000 Are we going to go using a 13th century law or a third century law?
00:15:12.000 Trump thinks that he's going to be able to bar.
00:15:14.000 So you have people who we know are not citizens, we know are criminals.
00:15:17.000 The only concern I have is that Trump be transparent and the administration show a list of the individuals that are deported.
00:15:24.000 That's the due process they deserve.
00:15:26.000 Are you a citizen yes or no?
00:15:28.000 Here you go, everybody.
00:15:29.000 Here's the bio of the individual, their name, where they come from.
00:15:31.000 They are criminals.
00:15:31.000 They're not citizens.
00:15:32.000 We deport them.
00:15:34.000 And we have a long history of going to war with organizations that are not governments, right?
00:15:39.000 We just got off the Global War of Terror.
00:15:42.000 That was going for 20 years.
00:15:43.000 That was often, I don't know what the legal mechanism is, but we were effectively fighting organizations.
00:15:48.000 The very first war in our nation's history was against pirates in the Middle East.
00:15:53.000 So this is the shores of Tripoli.
00:15:55.000 Yeah. That's the song, right?
00:15:58.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:15:58.000 Yeah, that was the origins of the Marines.
00:16:01.000 We had an invasion by Pancho Villa, around 19, what was it, 1900, 1910.
00:16:07.000 So that was an organization that Mexico could not control.
00:16:10.000 He was allegedly not under the control of the Mexican government, but it was treated like a war.
00:16:14.000 So we have a long precedent.
00:16:15.000 This is not something new.
00:16:18.000 You can go to war against organizations that are not formally governments, just like you can go to war against government.
00:16:22.000 Now, Ian.
00:16:23.000 We can have a conversation if Christine Oman and Pam Bondi arrest a bunch of Antifa because they're domestic terrorists and Trump tries to deport them to El Salvador.
00:16:33.000 Then we're going to have a conversation.
00:16:34.000 Because they're citizens.
00:16:35.000 Because they're citizens and they should be in an American prison with American due process, American citizens and all the Constitution affords them, even if they're disgusting criminals who are committing acts of terror.
00:16:45.000 I don't believe that is a reality.
00:16:47.000 Like the idea that they're going to catch one of these morbidly obese guys, you know, in all black at a Tesla dealership and then be like, to El Salvador with the I really don't see happening.
00:16:57.000 But I will absolutely call out the administration.
00:17:00.000 Should they do that, you have my word.
00:17:02.000 Yeah, or the next administration if they're like, all right.
00:17:04.000 Who's because of the Patriot Act, the president has such authority now since the Patriot Act to be like, this group's bad.
00:17:10.000 This group's a terrorist organization.
00:17:11.000 I don't know who can challenge the president from declaring that.
00:17:14.000 Is there someone?
00:17:15.000 I don't know enough about that.
00:17:15.000 I'm pretty sure literally anyone in the United States could file a lawsuit challenging that declaration.
00:17:19.000 Presumably, if you're going to have standing, it's going to be some association with the group.
00:17:24.000 So if Trump came out and said the proud boys are terrorists, they could file a suit and say it's an improper designation.
00:17:29.000 In fact, I'm not actually sure there is an official domestic terror designation for any American groups because of the First Amendment.
00:17:36.000 Labeling foreign groups terrorist organizations is because they're specifically not American.
00:17:41.000 So they do not, as foreign entities, they are not subject to the rights of the Constitution.
00:17:46.000 When they enter this country, they're now invaders and they are not subject to the rights in the same way.
00:17:50.000 If you are an illegal immigrant who entered for, like you came in for economic reasons, you are going to get granted a decent amount of constitutional rights.
00:17:58.000 I know a lot of people on the right don't like that, but that's true.
00:18:00.000 And the protection is for you, not the illegal immigrant.
00:18:03.000 To prevent the government from arresting, searching, and seizing American citizens, it's going to apply to any human body.
00:18:08.000 However, if you were a known Trende Aragua member and they're investigating in you, they're going to arrest you, put you in a plane, and send you out, and they're going to say we did.
00:18:17.000 And in fact, there's a ruling in 1948, this has gone viral, that already set the court precedent that deportations under the Alien Enemies Act do not require judicial review.
00:18:26.000 Correct. Saying that judges have neither, what did it say, neither the jurisdiction nor the competence or something like that effect.
00:18:33.000 Yeah, that's the exactly right.
00:18:35.000 Could you imagine, I mean, I don't want to go too far into this because we are going to talk about it later, a scenario where with all these people, I said, imagine this.
00:18:44.000 Donald Trump tells Israel, we are going to cut military funding and aid and pull our personnel unless you stop bombing Gaza.
00:18:51.000 And Israel says, no, we're going to keep doing it.
00:18:53.000 So Trump says, fine.
00:18:55.000 I order all U.S. military assets onto planes to fly back to the United States.
00:19:01.000 We are cutting Israel off.
00:19:03.000 And then a single district court judge bangs the gavel and says, no, do not do that.
00:19:07.000 Send all the military equipment and funding back to Israel.
00:19:10.000 These people would be apoplectic.
00:19:12.000 These Israel critical individuals on the left.
00:19:15.000 Times of war, times of invasion.
00:19:18.000 And these words are like, obviously, we haven't been at war since World War II.
00:19:21.000 We haven't officially been at war.
00:19:23.000 So that's off the books.
00:19:24.000 Invasion. And now like, do you consider an invasion?
00:19:27.000 And some judges are like, no.
00:19:28.000 And some are like, yes.
00:19:29.000 That's always how it's been.
00:19:31.000 Judiciary interprets.
00:19:32.000 And so you get these judges like, it wasn't invasion.
00:19:34.000 Therefore, these people cannot be deported.
00:19:36.000 And that's the point of the Supreme Court.
00:19:38.000 So the issue is the president has the authority as it pertains to law enforcement and the law says he can do this.
00:19:46.000 It's insanity that anyone would be arguing that a single district court, a lower court, could order the president stop international negotiations.
00:19:56.000 That's what happened.
00:19:56.000 Trump negotiated with El Salvador to hold known criminals and they agreed.
00:20:01.000 A plane was transporting the criminals to El Salvador and a judge said, turn it around.
00:20:07.000 That's laughably psychotic.
00:20:09.000 You cannot tell the president to cancel his negotiations with world leaders.
00:20:13.000 Because again, I'll give you another scenario.
00:20:15.000 Trump is talking to Putin and says, we want to end the war in Ukraine.
00:20:18.000 And Putin says, I know you have special forces and weapons coming into Ukraine.
00:20:23.000 And then Trump says, okay, we will pull our special forces and the funding.
00:20:28.000 And the war is over.
00:20:28.000 And Putin shakes his hand and then pops up CBS News and they say, a lower court judge banged the gavelin said, no, we're going to keep funding the Ukrainians.
00:20:38.000 Putin would be like, why am I wasting my time talking to a man who can't make a deal?
00:20:41.000 Yeah. So it's insane to think that Trump can't set this policy.
00:20:46.000 This does speak to the broader fact that there's, you know, many, you know, many judges that are, I don't know if there's actually a concerted effort or if it's just because of their ideological bent, but they're trying to stymie the elected president.
00:21:03.000 You know, trying to prevent him from doing things that he was elected to do.
00:21:07.000 And this is a problem, obviously because the president is elected by the people to perform duties that the people want.
00:21:17.000 So if he gets elected and these judges are going to just say, well, we have a different ideology than the majority of the people that voted for the president.
00:21:24.000 And so we're going to interpose ourselves between the president or between the people.
00:21:28.000 I think that's fine.
00:21:29.000 I'm totally fine with it.
00:21:30.000 100%. I'm not.
00:21:32.000 I'm not.
00:21:32.000 I'm just fine.
00:21:33.000 Obama points a judge.
00:21:34.000 Trump gets elected.
00:21:35.000 The judge says, I don't like what you're doing.
00:21:37.000 Trump. He says, okay, let's go to court over it.
00:21:38.000 That's totally fine.
00:21:40.000 The purpose of the judiciary is to extend beyond short terms.
00:21:45.000 We have a president every four years.
00:21:46.000 We have Congress every two years.
00:21:47.000 We have senators every six.
00:21:49.000 And then we have judges, which have, I don't know the appointments for lower courts and Supreme Court's lifetime.
00:21:55.000 The goal there is Obama...
00:21:57.000 There will be a difference in the branch's influence over a long period of time.
00:22:03.000 The issue at hand is when a judge extends beyond his jurisdiction, that is, foreign affairs, international negotiations, and powers under the executive solely for foreign relations.
00:22:15.000 If Donald Trump said, I'm going to transport this criminal from, this federal prisoner from New York to California for the purpose of trial.
00:22:24.000 And a lower court district judge in D.C. bang the governor to stop, turn that car around.
00:22:28.000 We have an injunction.
00:22:29.000 I'd say, it's totally fine.
00:22:31.000 I know they're obstructing.
00:22:32.000 I know they're doing it for obstructive reasons, but this is different.
00:22:35.000 This is a president saying, as per the DOJ, the DOJ gets challenged by a judge.
00:22:39.000 We have these checks for a reason.
00:22:40.000 I'm fine with those limitations.
00:22:42.000 If Donald Trump says, we have captured the leader of a terrorist organization, he's being transported to one of our allies.
00:22:47.000 And a judge says, no, it undermines the president's authorities as commander in chief doesn't fly.
00:22:53.000 But let's jump to this next story, because we are going to get back into that again.
00:22:56.000 This is from the New York Times.
00:22:57.000 Pam Bondi calls Tesla vandalism domestic terrorism, promising steep consequences.
00:23:03.000 The Attorney General echoed remarks by President Trump, as protesters against Elon Musk and his efforts to shrink the government have defaced and destroyed Tesla vehicles.
00:23:11.000 Yeah, it's terrorism.
00:23:12.000 And now the Post-Molennial reports, activist group Indivisible Tennessee to stage Tesla protests at Franklin, Memphis, Knoxville, and Chattanooga.
00:23:20.000 Here's challenge.
00:23:22.000 We know they're engaged in acts of terror.
00:23:24.000 In Vegas, they didn't just torch the Tesla dealership.
00:23:26.000 They opened fire on it.
00:23:29.000 Someone could be there and get killed when they're shooting bullets into these buildings.
00:23:33.000 There's going to be employees.
00:23:34.000 There's going to be custodians even or customers.
00:23:37.000 Insane. Now the challenge is this.
00:23:41.000 We know that at the highest level, you've got Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert gloating and mocking the idea.
00:23:47.000 Essentially, it's encouraging it.
00:23:49.000 You've got people like Bill Burr cheering on the violence.
00:23:53.000 You've got a spattering of various leftists attacking random vehicles across the country.
00:24:01.000 How should the federal government handle this protest?
00:24:05.000 Should they say it is but a peaceful protest?
00:24:07.000 It's always allowed.
00:24:08.000 Or should they say this is organized?
00:24:12.000 This is targeting Tesla.
00:24:14.000 Tesla are high priority targets of terror and we will...
00:24:18.000 enforce the law to grave consequence.
00:24:21.000 What they would have done four years ago is put a bunch of FBI agents in the protest, pretending to be protesters, and made it go violent on purpose so that they could arrest them all.
00:24:30.000 Now, what they should do is probably keep an eye on the protest if they get out of line, crackdown.
00:24:36.000 So this was an issue during the BLM riots, right?
00:24:38.000 So historically, most of Fortune 500 CEOs have voted Republican, something like 70%.
00:24:46.000 Not one Fortune 500 CEO had a negative opinion about BLM, right?
00:24:51.000 This was a Marxist, violent organization.
00:24:53.000 Not one of them spoke out.
00:24:55.000 Why didn't they speak out?
00:24:57.000 Because this would have happened.
00:24:58.000 Their headquarters would have been firebomb.
00:25:00.000 Their employees would have been beaten up.
00:25:02.000 So this has been going on for a long time.
00:25:04.000 I think this is a big reason why corporations bent the knee and turned into these woke beasts.
00:25:10.000 It's absolutely, it's got to be treated the exact same way that they would treat right-wing political violence, which is absolute crackdown.
00:25:17.000 So I think Bondi is absolutely on.
00:25:19.000 People. During the riots in 2020, they were people putting like signs of like, please don't break my thing.
00:25:27.000 I'm not part of this.
00:25:28.000 I don't exactly.
00:25:28.000 Not only that, the government was encouraging it.
00:25:31.000 You had Democrat senators or representatives saying things like, you know, these people should be upset.
00:25:36.000 They should be out in the street.
00:25:37.000 They should be, you know, Maxine Waters was saying things like, oh, you know, you don't give them a moment's rest, you know, get in their faces at bars, etc.
00:25:46.000 The, the, uh, Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris, former Vice President in the United States, Kamala Harris, she was telling people, look, this is who you call if you want to, or she was advertising a website that would help defend people that were arrested.
00:26:02.000 So she was promoting the defense fund for people that were arrested, arrested for crimes, not arrested for protesting, arrested for crimes.
00:26:10.000 in in during the protests and the riot so the the idea that there is a equal playing field between the right and the left that's just ridiculous it's completely and totally not true yeah the and the left need the the current because of the way that the DOJ and the FBI are structured now they need to come down on the people that are committing these crimes extremely hard.
00:26:32.000 There's a guy.
00:26:32.000 They are committing crimes.
00:26:34.000 Daniel, his name was Daniel Clark Pounder, 24-year-old.
00:26:37.000 He just got, he faces 20 years in federal prison after he allegedly firebombed the Tesla charging station, and that is from.
00:26:43.000 So that's a 24-year-old, just got 20 years in prison.
00:26:46.000 You know, arguably way...
00:26:47.000 He's facing it.
00:26:48.000 He's facing 20 years, which is like...
00:26:50.000 Whoa. I get it.
00:26:51.000 Maybe they're using terrorism charges.
00:26:55.000 Don't get roped up in this.
00:26:57.000 Don't think you're doing.
00:26:58.000 Don't think it's fun.
00:26:59.000 Absolutely. They should punish them as a means to deter other people.
00:27:04.000 Unfortunately, the people that have already done these things, they have decided to do these things.
00:27:09.000 This is terrorism.
00:27:11.000 It's not a question of whether or not it's terrorism.
00:27:14.000 It clearly is.
00:27:15.000 They're doing it in an effort to intimidate and frighten people.
00:27:19.000 They're destroying property.
00:27:20.000 They're committing violent acts.
00:27:22.000 They need to be made an example of.
00:27:24.000 You know, I wouldn't consider it.
00:27:25.000 Sorry, let me get to what.
00:27:26.000 I wouldn't consider terrorism if it was just random, a bunch of different cars all over the place we're getting beat up.
00:27:33.000 It's one company is getting targeted, which is why I consider it terrorism.
00:27:36.000 One company and the private property of individual citizens of the United States.
00:27:42.000 These cars are getting keyed.
00:27:43.000 They're getting fire bombs.
00:27:45.000 They're the people that own, actually, the Tesla ownerships are actually run by Tesla.
00:27:49.000 So I'll go gloss over that.
00:27:52.000 So go ahead.
00:27:52.000 I'm sorry.
00:27:52.000 But yeah, and then the next question is using RICO on some of these organizations, right?
00:27:56.000 So Antifa says, no, no, we're not a formal organization.
00:27:59.000 Well, neither is the mafia.
00:28:01.000 The mafia does not have a mailing address with a bunch of registered, right?
00:28:05.000 These are all shadow organizations and the job of the prosecutors to figure out what is a substantive organization here.
00:28:11.000 So use that on Antifa, on, you know, whatever NGOs are currently associated with these crimes.
00:28:19.000 Pardon me?
00:28:21.000 Whatever NGOs are either pushing or funding or somehow associated with.
00:28:24.000 Absolutely. Remember during the BLM riots, I think we had like U-Hauls full of cinder blocks.
00:28:30.000 Yeah. Somebody paid for this.
00:28:31.000 And people.
00:28:32.000 Yeah. Yeah, but it's not expensive.
00:28:34.000 Right. I mean, relative to, so let's say there's some dude who works at a big tech Silicon Valley firm and he makes $120,000 a year and he's got $10K in his bank account saved up.
00:28:44.000 And he says, I'm going to go spend $1,000 on bricks.
00:28:47.000 I always hear people say, like, who paid for this?
00:28:49.000 And I'm like, guys, it's not that expensive to do some of these things.
00:28:51.000 A couple hundred bucks can get signs printed up.
00:28:53.000 I guess you'd have to take into account, one, how much was spent on the terrorism to get it funded, and two, how much damage was done by the terrorism after the fact and put those two things together.
00:29:03.000 Or not necessarily additive, but it's both important.
00:29:06.000 Because I think, because if someone spends $100 million to try and get some terrorist event done and the event fails and no damage is done, That's not so, I mean, it's still $100 million was spent on terrorism, but there's no damage.
00:29:19.000 So, like, hard to prosecute.
00:29:21.000 It's conspiracy then.
00:29:22.000 Correct. I mean, you can, you can absolutely prosecute for a conspiracy to commit, you know, a terrorist terrorist attack.
00:29:28.000 So the more money put into it, the more likely it would be considered a conspiracy by charge.
00:29:33.000 Well, I mean, if there are people that are planning, you know, multiple people that are planning, because you mentioned RICO earlier, if there are multiple people planning on doing something, that in and of itself is a crime.
00:29:43.000 So what takes to get to RICO charges?
00:29:45.000 What do you need to get there?
00:29:46.000 What would it, like, a bunch of people on a Facebook group being like, hey, I'm not saying go out and, but like, is that RICO?
00:29:52.000 Or like, well, what point would it become?
00:29:54.000 I imagine.
00:29:55.000 There may be better legal scholars here, but, you know, if you've got a bunch of mafia guys who are sort of joking, not joking, like, hey, take care of him, ha ha, wink.
00:30:06.000 The prosecutor would be very interested in all those kinds of statements.
00:30:09.000 And, you know, whether or not it was sort of a wink-wink statement is immaterial.
00:30:13.000 Honestly, if that, if it can be that loose, I'd round up people like Jimmy Kimball, too.
00:30:19.000 Because if it's as loose as, hey, take care of him, wink, wink, anyone that said things about, you know, Free Luigi or whatever, they're advocating.
00:30:28.000 the, you know, they're supporting terrorists, they're aiding and abetting or whatever.
00:30:33.000 If it, I don't know that it is, but if it is that kind of loose association, round them up too.
00:30:40.000 Well, money and I think, like, leadership structure are traditionally used to define, like, a RICO organization.
00:30:48.000 Okay. So if person A is commanding person B to do something...
00:30:52.000 And then they usually look at the money because generally money ties it all together.
00:30:55.000 So, you know, if you look at those for Antifa, I think that would be absolutely fascinating.
00:30:59.000 Unfortunately, then it's probably the people that are on late-night TV making jokes.
00:31:03.000 You probably don't want to go that far because at that point it is second or First Amendment advocacy.
00:31:08.000 The challenge is that what we're saying, we described it as the ice bucket challenge of terrorism.
00:31:13.000 It's a standalone complex.
00:31:14.000 It is a cultural emergent phenomenon.
00:31:18.000 These people don't need to be organized.
00:31:20.000 They know what to do without direction.
00:31:22.000 So when someone makes a video and they look at the camera and they say, you know what to do.
00:31:29.000 They all instantly know what the reference is.
00:31:32.000 And then if you actually went to court and went before a jury and said, look, he said, you know what to do.
00:31:36.000 They're going to be like, what?
00:31:37.000 And he's going to just go, I was talking about buying ice cream.
00:31:40.000 So doesn't that work with ISIS, for example, when they're recruiting people?
00:31:44.000 So the organization is intentionally atomistic.
00:31:47.000 They don't have an hierarchical structure because they're trying to, you know, sort of deny connections.
00:31:53.000 So if you define Antifa, for example, if you designate that as a terrorist organization, then at that point, I guess you can trigger and everything you use against ISIS.
00:32:03.000 And of course you can because they're international, which is that a lot of people don't understand this.
00:32:07.000 When there were discussions about labeling Antifa a terrorist organization.
00:32:12.000 Many on the right and the left, largely leftists, were like, you can't.
00:32:16.000 Domestic groups can't be declared terrorists because of the First Amendment.
00:32:20.000 And then people pointed out, Antifa's an international entity.
00:32:24.000 So if Americans pledged allegiance to Hamas or ISIS or whatever group, yeah, you're going to get charged.
00:32:30.000 You can get charged with terror providing material support or otherwise.
00:32:33.000 Same is true for Antifa.
00:32:35.000 So it can happen.
00:32:36.000 Antifa's been international.
00:32:38.000 Antifistah. That was ancient.
00:32:39.000 That's been around a long time.
00:32:40.000 It started in other countries.
00:32:42.000 And it still exists.
00:32:42.000 There's Antifa and other countries today.
00:32:45.000 And so they're loosely knit.
00:32:47.000 So, however, the challenges for an American citizen who's not Antifa or anything like that, they've been making social media videos saying things like, why won't someone just do it?
00:32:58.000 And then people know what there's a reference to.
00:33:01.000 But if you were to that, the video can't get banned.
00:33:04.000 The feds can't do anything about it.
00:33:05.000 What are they going to say?
00:33:06.000 They're going to be like, oh, I was talking about someone needing to wash the car.
00:33:10.000 Yeah. Oh, geez.
00:33:13.000 What do you mean?
00:33:13.000 I didn't say anything.
00:33:14.000 Yeah, they didn't.
00:33:15.000 So how do you deal with it?
00:33:16.000 I don't know.
00:33:17.000 This is the complicated part of free speech is your system is vulnerable to insinuation and like mind control and manipulation through legal channels.
00:33:26.000 Yeah, well, that's why earlier I was saying money and hierarchy.
00:33:29.000 I think that you really can't get past that because otherwise you're impinging too much on First Amendment.
00:33:34.000 And if there's no money, if it's just random comments because now that we have social media, you don't necessarily need a hierarchy.
00:33:41.000 There's just like algorithms.
00:33:44.000 You do have longstanding laws about incitement, right?
00:33:46.000 So you have incitement the riot.
00:33:48.000 So I don't know if that, I think it's got to be pretty direct.
00:33:51.000 Yeah, they got to have.
00:33:52.000 Usually it's a direct threat with like time, with like a time.
00:33:56.000 Like it needs to be an adjunct call to it.
00:33:59.000 Like at this time, at this place, we're doing this thing.
00:34:03.000 And if those three things are apparent, it's become an actual threat, like a legitimate illegal.
00:34:07.000 Otherwise, it's just like, if you're like, I'm going to go illegal thing.
00:34:11.000 Totally legal to say that out loud.
00:34:12.000 I mean, there are some things, I think, might get you in trouble.
00:34:14.000 Like, if you're messing with, like, the command structure of the military and you're saying you're going to go do something, they'll, they might come in and try and check you out.
00:34:22.000 But generally, you're allowed to make threats if they're not imminent threats.
00:34:27.000 Uh-huh. Imminent threats.
00:34:30.000 Yeah. You can't direct people to do things or declare you're about to do a thing.
00:34:34.000 But when Bill Burr said that he thought people should commit heinous acts against billionaires, that's just a thought he's allowed to have.
00:34:40.000 Right. We got this story here from Graby, and it's a clip from Colbert.
00:34:46.000 Colbert on Tesla cars getting wheels stolen.
00:34:48.000 I do not condone this, but I do appreciate your tireless efforts.
00:34:52.000 So we've got Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel essentially advocating for the terrorism that we're seeing.
00:34:58.000 I don't know where this clip start, but let's roll it.
00:35:03.000 Trump is not destroying everything we love all on his own.
00:35:06.000 He's getting a big assist from Tesla CEO and...
00:35:13.000 And guests of the White Lotus undressing that corpse with his eyes, Elon Musk.
00:35:19.000 That has led a lot of protests around the country at Tesla dealerships.
00:35:22.000 Now, I want to be clear.
00:35:24.000 I do not condone violence or vandalism of any kind.
00:35:27.000 That is a deeply held belief of mine that comes from the bottom of my CBS legal department.
00:35:35.000 With that in mind, I find it interesting that there's a growing trend of cyber trucks being vandalized and used as skate ramps or covered in garbage.
00:35:44.000 I think that's interesting.
00:35:47.000 To be fair, to be fair, that might not be vandalism.
00:35:50.000 That might just be a simple mistake, because they do look a lot like a dumpster.
00:35:54.000 It's vandalism, dude.
00:35:58.000 Tesla owners are facing backlash everywhere they go.
00:36:01.000 Recently, somebody stole the wheels from every single Tesla in a Texas parking lot.
00:36:07.000 Whoever did it, I do not condone this, but I do appreciate your tireless efforts.
00:36:16.000 What's this?
00:36:16.000 What's this?
00:36:17.000 This?
00:36:23.000 What happened when Jesse Smolett lied about getting attacked?
00:36:29.000 Oh, yeah.
00:36:30.000 That this could happen in this country is shocking.
00:36:33.000 How could this?
00:36:34.000 It never happened.
00:36:35.000 Yet when innocent people are being attacked, it's funny.
00:36:39.000 Hey, we got Jimmy Kimmel.
00:36:40.000 Don't forget Jimmy Kimmel.
00:36:42.000 Wait, we don't got Jimmy Kimmel.
00:36:44.000 Got it.
00:36:45.000 Now we got Jimmy Kimmel.
00:36:47.000 Okay, apparently we...
00:36:48.000 Oh. Now we got...
00:36:50.000 Other than the stock market for a change.
00:36:53.000 Our co-president, Elon Musk, sent a SpaceX vehicle to bring the astronauts back.
00:36:59.000 And when they landed, he fired them immediately upon landing.
00:37:01.000 Tesla stock is way down, almost disastrously so.
00:37:06.000 People have been vandalizing Tesla vehicles, new Tesla vehicles.
00:37:14.000 Please don't vandalize.
00:37:16.000 Don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles.
00:37:19.000 And so Elon Musk has been making the rounds in the right...
00:37:24.000 We all get the implication of what his joke was meant to be.
00:37:26.000 Yep. That light pause with a look to the camera was the wink.
00:37:31.000 The wink and the nod.
00:37:32.000 That's ABC effectively saying, do it.
00:37:36.000 Yeah, man.
00:37:36.000 I do want to give a shout out real quick just to this clip before we go.
00:37:41.000 Once again, I got to unmute this stuff, don't I?
00:37:43.000 Even Colbert.
00:37:44.000 There we go.
00:37:45.000 There we go.
00:37:46.000 this weekend, a man and a woman who are served...
00:37:48.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:37:49.000 I got to tee this off.
00:37:50.000 This is from March 13th, 2022.
00:37:52.000 ...together in the resistance took a break from fighting to get married on the front lines.
00:37:59.000 It's like a wedding in Texas but with slightly fewer guns.
00:38:03.000 Uh-huh. Although, although I must say, I must say, huge faux, everyone knows you're not supposed to wear the same color camo as the bride.
00:38:12.000 Where is she?
00:38:13.000 Where is she?
00:38:17.000 I'll tell you what, I will never complain about a destination wedding again.
00:38:21.000 Russia has been hit with a series of crippling sanctions, and it looks like there's more to come, because the U.S. and its European allies are now discussing banning imports of Russian oil.
00:38:31.000 Take that, Putin.
00:38:33.000 We're not going to buy our gas from a war criminal.
00:38:35.000 We're going to buy it from the good guys.
00:38:37.000 Saudi Arabia.
00:38:40.000 But it's going to cost.
00:38:42.000 Since the invasion, oil prices have skyrocketed.
00:38:45.000 Today, the average gas price in America hit an all-time record high of over $4 per gallon.
00:38:51.000 Okay, that stings, but a clean conscience is worth a buck or two.
00:38:57.000 I'm willing to pay...
00:39:01.000 It's a butter to per gallon.
00:39:02.000 It's important.
00:39:02.000 It's important.
00:39:05.000 I'm willing to pay $4 a gallon.
00:39:07.000 Hell, I'll pay $15 a gallon because I drive a Tesla.
00:39:13.000 You do?
00:39:14.000 Stephen, you drive a Tesla.
00:39:16.000 Oh, no.
00:39:18.000 But it was a clean conscience, you said, right?
00:39:20.000 You have a clean conscience driving a Tesla?
00:39:22.000 It's a cult.
00:39:23.000 And I think that proves it to everybody.
00:39:26.000 Do you think that Colbert sold this Tesla?
00:39:28.000 I don't think so.
00:39:29.000 I wonder.
00:39:31.000 The mothership came up with new messaging, and boy, you got to, and you have to move fast.
00:39:36.000 You know, you saw what happened to JK Rowling, right?
00:39:39.000 Lifetime, member of the cult and good standing, every single opinion, check that box.
00:39:44.000 One opinion off, you're done.
00:39:47.000 One opinion off that is just as simple as men are men and women are women.
00:39:52.000 Yeah, but I think J.K. Rowling specifically was like, we shouldn't have men in female prisons.
00:40:00.000 I think that was the first issue that she brought up.
00:40:02.000 She was like, wow, a man was placed in a female prison, and that's scary, and then they went after her for it.
00:40:10.000 And then someone put up a billboard that said, I heart J.K. Rowling, and they called it hate speech and took it down, which is insane.
00:40:16.000 And then Billboard, Chris, explained how famously he and Canada did the same thing, and they called it hate speech and took it down.
00:40:22.000 Just saying, I heart J.K. Rowling.
00:40:24.000 Well, don't watch Harry Potter on, what does it come on, HBO?
00:40:28.000 I heard they're race-swapping Snape anyway, so I will not be watching it.
00:40:31.000 It's wild that they're remaking.
00:40:33.000 Remake? Well, I mean, bro, it's been 20-something.
00:40:35.000 It's in 20 years, hasn't it?
00:40:36.000 Wow. Yeah.
00:40:38.000 I can't even believe that.
00:40:40.000 You're old, Phil.
00:40:41.000 I don't want to talk about it.
00:40:42.000 I read the book when I was working at Ground Zero at 9-11.
00:40:45.000 That's when I got into Harry Potter.
00:40:46.000 I was an actual adult when Harry Potter came out and it was 20 years ago.
00:40:49.000 I was a small child.
00:40:52.000 I thought Colbert, I don't normally talk crap about people, particularly behind their back.
00:40:56.000 It's things I wouldn't say to their face.
00:40:58.000 I've had it out, not out for this guy.
00:40:59.000 He's such a waste of talent.
00:41:02.000 He is just garbage performance.
00:41:05.000 Like, this guy, since his Colbert report, would just say fake stuff.
00:41:09.000 He would just lie to people, but it was in the guise of comedy.
00:41:12.000 Like, they act like their news agents, and then they, in one, but one sentence, they'll just lie, and it's supposed, but it's okay, because I'm a comedian, so I'm allowed to lie to you.
00:41:20.000 The clarification is...
00:41:22.000 The setup to the joke is implied to be the truth and the punchline is implied to be the lie.
00:41:27.000 But they will lie in the setup as if they're telling you the truth.
00:41:31.000 So on the daily show a few weeks ago, with the gutting of USAID, the setup for the joke is today, you know, Elon Musk went into the USAID and began firing lots of people cutting foreign aid to developing nations.
00:41:44.000 And then blah, blah, joke.
00:41:45.000 And you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
00:41:48.000 That first part's not true.
00:41:49.000 They treat it like an actual news story.
00:41:52.000 So you think it's true.
00:41:53.000 That's the manipulation they did.
00:41:54.000 He started it off with our co-president Elon Musk.
00:41:57.000 Not true.
00:41:57.000 I don't know why you said that.
00:41:59.000 It's not funny.
00:42:00.000 People didn't even know if they were supposed to laugh.
00:42:03.000 I can understand what you're saying on that.
00:42:06.000 But that's not nearly as egregious as how Colbert will be like, take a look at this.
00:42:12.000 Here's a news clipping and a report.
00:42:14.000 And he's lying to America about it.
00:42:16.000 The purpose of the joke after the fact is to cover up the fact that he just gave you fake news.
00:42:22.000 Because then when they're called on it, he goes, it was a joke.
00:42:26.000 And then they go, yeah, it was a joke.
00:42:27.000 You're so dumb.
00:42:31.000 That's it, man.
00:42:31.000 I got, I've had problems with this guy since 2006.
00:42:34.000 I made a YouTube video right at him in 2006 being like, you are a fake piece of- That showed him.
00:42:39.000 It's, I was like, you know what?
00:42:40.000 I don't even care if people see my stuff.
00:42:42.000 I put that energy out into the universe and they feel it.
00:42:44.000 Because those vibrations, they- Yeah, and other people see it, and the ripples through Kevin, seven steps of Kevin Bacon.
00:42:50.000 Everyone knows Kevin Bacon through seven people.
00:42:53.000 Yeah, he felt that.
00:42:54.000 Six. But I was tired of that Colbert crap.
00:42:57.000 He's a junk artist, man.
00:42:58.000 That guy is fake as fuck.
00:43:00.000 I just, I mean, he was his, his, he was always doing a schick, right?
00:43:03.000 He was, he was an actual liberal or leftist, well, liberal, playing a conservative.
00:43:09.000 That was his schick.
00:43:10.000 Like, he was...
00:43:11.000 He was making a like Stephen Colbert.
00:43:14.000 When he had the Colbert report, it was like, it was a joke.
00:43:17.000 He wasn't actually a conservative.
00:43:19.000 He was mocking.
00:43:20.000 He was, you know, lampooning conservatives.
00:43:22.000 And so it was a, you know, it was a character he was playing.
00:43:25.000 Now it's less so, like he's not really playing a character anymore.
00:43:30.000 He's not really the same.
00:43:32.000 you know, doing the Lampoon thing, he's just lying to people for real.
00:43:35.000 I mean, he's just a normal, normal, he's a normal leftist.
00:43:37.000 He's not much different than Jimmy Kimmel or, or manipulative as hell.
00:43:42.000 That's why they put him on the Tonight Show.
00:43:43.000 He would lie on the Colbert Report.
00:43:45.000 He'd come out and be like, we, he'd talk about how we have to be at war in 9-11.
00:43:49.000 We got to go.
00:43:50.000 And he's like, dude, quit saying this stuff.
00:43:52.000 I know it's all in just good fun, Stephen?
00:43:55.000 But you know how many people are manipulated by that crap, dude?
00:43:58.000 He was thinking...
00:43:58.000 He doesn't realize it.
00:43:59.000 Like, he was thinking, like, well, the point of what he was saying was like he was playing a character.
00:44:04.000 He didn't believe the things that he was saying.
00:44:06.000 Yeah, right.
00:44:07.000 So same with tonight show.
00:44:08.000 I'm sure he'll be like, no, no, it was just a character when I lied to you.
00:44:11.000 Okay. Well, I'm not so sure.
00:44:13.000 I can't speak for him.
00:44:15.000 I don't know.
00:44:15.000 Garbage. I don't like talking bad about people, man.
00:44:18.000 Like, fix yourself.
00:44:19.000 Fix yourself.
00:44:20.000 Fix myself.
00:44:20.000 That's obviously the main purpose in life, but this is sickening.
00:44:24.000 This guy is just high horse crap.
00:44:27.000 Crap. If you're talented and it pisses me off.
00:44:29.000 They're all, all of them.
00:44:31.000 It is kind of crazy to see where we're going.
00:44:33.000 When the cultural zeitgeist to the left is terrorism, this is the precursor to civil wars.
00:44:39.000 Guys, I know Baba Lakleche, but actually listen, in modern civil wars, not in our civil war, media played a huge role.
00:44:48.000 When there was, read about the Rwandan genocide.
00:44:52.000 Prominent personalities who were part of one group.
00:44:55.000 It was, what was the name of the group that the Tutsi is the ones who got massive.
00:44:59.000 The Hutu.
00:45:00.000 The Hutu would constantly make jokes about violence like this.
00:45:06.000 They'd be like, I mean, like it was a component of the media that it was culturally prevalent and normal among the Hutu to say the Tutsi...
00:45:16.000 are bad and should be wiped out and all those things.
00:45:18.000 When they start going on TV and gloating and laughing about violence and terror against regular people, that's the direction we're going.
00:45:26.000 And I'm sorry, there's no off ramp.
00:45:28.000 Unless you go to Colbert and say, Stephen, I'd like to explain to you how this is going to lead to chaos.
00:45:33.000 I mean, I told this to Jack Dorsey's face.
00:45:36.000 And you all laughed at me, but who's laughing now?
00:45:38.000 Nobody actually, because we're all terrified.
00:45:40.000 But when I was on the Rogan podcast with Jack Dorsey and Vijay, one of the last things we talked about, I said, if you guys keep doing this, you are pushing this country to a civil war.
00:45:49.000 And they were like, I don't know about that.
00:45:52.000 A couple years later, I was like Mike Cernovich, you know, remember when Tim Poole warned them in 2019?
00:45:56.000 It's been two years and then all this stuff is happening.
00:45:58.000 Yeah, now it's 2025 and it's worse than we've ever seen.
00:46:01.000 The swaddings and the terror attacks is the worst we've seen it.
00:46:05.000 They are, they, when you have the Summer of Love riots, it's bad, but it's indiscriminate.
00:46:11.000 It was just leftists going crazy in their own cities.
00:46:14.000 Today, There were two assassination attempts on Donald Trump, technically a third four and one, but I mean two domestic ones.
00:46:21.000 And now you have directed terrorism from the left targeting conservative personalities at their homes.
00:46:28.000 I keep thinking, I was listening to the show last night too, and I'm like, uh, civil war.
00:46:32.000 No, that's the big ask.
00:46:35.000 I can't do civil war, but I can give you revolution.
00:46:37.000 No. We're in a revolution, baby.
00:46:39.000 We were co-opted in 1913.
00:46:41.000 You actually brought up the Pendleton Act, early 1871, that that's when this coup started in the United States.
00:46:47.000 And it's been 150 years that these bureaucracy has been in control of the United States government.
00:46:53.000 It's a revolution to take the country back.
00:46:54.000 That's what's happening behind the scenes right now.
00:46:56.000 It is a revolution when one side...
00:46:59.000 takes the country back.
00:47:01.000 You can argue that the election of Donald Trump is a revolution.
00:47:04.000 But the issue is, what do you call it when there are two factions fighting for control of one government?
00:47:09.000 That's called a civil war.
00:47:12.000 So I think they've had this kind of long march through the institutions, right?
00:47:16.000 And they've been playing that year by year, generation by generation.
00:47:19.000 I think a big part of that has been capturing the deep state.
00:47:22.000 In other words, using tax revenue to sort of create this fake left.
00:47:28.000 But another big part of it, I think, has been indoctrinating the kids.
00:47:31.000 So every generation gets lefter and lefter because of how they've used the education system.
00:47:36.000 Now, I think what happened is in COVID, They saw what they thought was the opportunity of the century, that they were going to move the ball like 30 yards, right?
00:47:48.000 Because, I mean, just like, it was just handed to them by fate.
00:47:51.000 And they launched too soon.
00:47:53.000 They needed another generation or two to really completely seal the deal to, you know, indoctrinate enough Americans so that we could never, ever get back.
00:48:02.000 I think they launched too soon.
00:48:04.000 And so what did that do?
00:48:05.000 It got their hopes up, got them really excited.
00:48:07.000 It was crazy in 2020.
00:48:09.000 Like everybody was against us, right?
00:48:13.000 Like the American Association of Actuaries, you know, was going on about, you know, how systemic racism is applied.
00:48:21.000 You're just like, why do you have opinions on these things?
00:48:23.000 You know, they were like just dancing that they had complete victory, and then it just vanished, right?
00:48:30.000 It's just evaporated.
00:48:32.000 So they are frustrated.
00:48:33.000 At this point, they feel like they're out of ammo.
00:48:35.000 They're throwing the guns at us now.
00:48:37.000 So they're desperate.
00:48:39.000 So on the one hand, yes, I think they've escalated and the more violence than ever.
00:48:43.000 On the other hand, I think that's what's happening.
00:48:46.000 Their hopes got so high and they were so horribly disappointed now that they are desperate.
00:48:53.000 It's good because they're no longer in control.
00:48:55.000 They're no longer strategic, right?
00:48:57.000 They're making mistakes, just like they made mistakes in 2020.
00:49:04.000 Yes, and it's like an immune response, like the body has developed immunity.
00:49:08.000 You don't need 100% protection to have immunity, and there's still viruses attacking organs and things, but the body's immunity has overtaken the problem, so the viruses aren't in control of the system anymore.
00:49:18.000 That is what it feels like, and these acute little bouts of inflammation are like, and my hope it's that it is just part of the healing process.
00:49:27.000 You know, the future's unwritten, obviously we're influencing right now.
00:49:31.000 So do you have a sense of where this is headed?
00:49:34.000 Because me and Tim, like, you know, Tim said, there's, you know, there's no off ramp.
00:49:39.000 And that's something that we've been saying around here a lot.
00:49:41.000 I don't see an off ramp because I don't know if you can't get people on the left.
00:49:48.000 to say things like, yes, it's bad for there to be terrorist activity because they believe that Donald Trump is a fascist or that these things that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are doing will somehow lead to fascism, which I don't understand how they can conceive of that, but take at their word that they believe that.
00:50:10.000 If they believe that, then there isn't anything that's beyond the pale to do to prevent a fascist takeover.
00:50:18.000 That's part of why I don't see an offering.
00:50:21.000 What's your sense of what the next, you know, year's going to bring or two years?
00:50:26.000 Yeah, I think there's always like a hardcore, whether it's five or 20 percent.
00:50:30.000 And those people maybe are beyond redemption.
00:50:33.000 Thank goodness and democracy.
00:50:34.000 They don't matter.
00:50:36.000 But the question is, you know, you've got another, whatever, 20 or 30 percent who are...
00:50:42.000 They believe in this left-wing stuff just because they're fans of Jimmy Kimmel or whatever.
00:50:46.000 They're not really dedicated activists.
00:50:48.000 They're the ones who I think are in play.
00:50:50.000 And honestly, I'm very optimistic about the trends.
00:50:53.000 You know, I think that the media, the alt media is by far stronger than it's ever been.
00:50:59.000 If you look back to the 1970s, you had a monolithic left-wing media.
00:51:03.000 You didn't even have Rush Limbaugh yet.
00:51:06.000 You had absolute zero voice from the right.
00:51:09.000 The closest you had was maybe William F. Buckley.
00:51:11.000 I mean, just nothing, right?
00:51:12.000 And yet we fought into a sandstill.
00:51:14.000 Yes, we were losing ground, but not that badly considering that we had absolutely zero voice.
00:51:19.000 So I think that if you look back over the past 150 years, right, the period of left-wing domination of newspapers and then TV and then radio and so on, I think they were actually in a really, really good spot here.
00:51:30.000 I was shocked that media pulled out all the stops going into the 24 election, right?
00:51:35.000 They compared him to Hitler.
00:51:37.000 I mean, they just everything they had in the arsenal.
00:51:41.000 They were like, throw it all now.
00:51:43.000 It was insane, right?
00:51:44.000 And it didn't work.
00:51:45.000 So I think that's a very, very important number.
00:51:48.000 We continue gaining.
00:51:50.000 If you look at the new media, I mean, people like us, but just, you know, you've got new guys on like YouTube and X all the time.
00:51:57.000 These people are so much higher quality than the garbage that is being peddled.
00:52:01.000 I think that what we're looking at now is that 60 people who are in their 60s or 70s, they're slowly being replaced by people who are in their 20s.
00:52:09.000 Nobody in their 20s watches ABC News.
00:52:12.000 No, no.
00:52:12.000 I mean like zero, right?
00:52:14.000 So the media is trending in our direction.
00:52:16.000 The left had been convinced so long that time was on their side because both immigration, illegal immigration, and capturing the education system.
00:52:25.000 Now when I look at media and I look at the trends in there, time is on our side.
00:52:28.000 We are winning.
00:52:29.000 So we're already in control right now.
00:52:31.000 We are discovering the last Fedain, like the last insane Japanese soldiers living in the forest at this point, these guys doing the violence, right?
00:52:40.000 This is no longer controlled, like, mature opposition.
00:52:44.000 This is desperate.
00:52:45.000 So it looks bad at the moment, but I think we're actually, it's like when the fever breaks and you start healing.
00:52:52.000 Let's jump to this story from the New York Times.
00:52:54.000 Musk donates to GOP members of Congress who support impeaching judges.
00:52:59.000 It's a big story because all of these judges are seeking to obstruct Donald Trump's rulings, protecting USAID, protecting federal workers, stopping deportations, and now stopping Donald Trump's banning of transgender people serving in the military.
00:53:14.000 Some activists have argued don't bother impeaching because you need two-thirds majority of the Senate.
00:53:20.000 Why don't you just defund their districts with a simple majority?
00:53:23.000 And that'll be a major move.
00:53:24.000 But as much as I can appreciate this, Musk doing this is intending to drive that story, which will hopefully empower the senators who are doing well.
00:53:33.000 Charlie Kirk talked at the end of last year about going after these senators who are rhinos and are not supporting real accountability.
00:53:40.000 But this goes back to the question of Donald Trump's authority and the Constitution.
00:53:44.000 And so we were just talking about conflict in this country, civil war versus revolution.
00:53:50.000 I would say that the conflict has reached the highest levels under Donald Trump today.
00:53:56.000 But it's curious.
00:53:57.000 In Trump's first term, they were accusing him of being a Russian spy.
00:54:01.000 They were imprisoning the people who worked with him.
00:54:04.000 They were Flynn before he even got started.
00:54:06.000 They didn't put him in prison, but they ran him over the coals.
00:54:09.000 Carter Page was run through the coals, all of these things.
00:54:11.000 You had Manafort was actually charged and Politico reported that it was Ukraine who fed those documents to the U.S. They could go after him.
00:54:18.000 Now Donald Trump is president again, and they seem to be on the outs, but they are still fighting.
00:54:23.000 So it may be that this is the back end of the conflict, and things are going to start simmering down now that Trump is in control.
00:54:32.000 Of course, they're resisting.
00:54:33.000 Of course, there's violence and terror from the left right now, but will it actually be enough?
00:54:39.000 I think it's a possibility that what we're saying from the left is a death rattle.
00:54:43.000 Certainly they are still there, but they are thrashing them out in the water grasping for straws.
00:54:47.000 No one wants to tolerate.
00:54:49.000 You know, you know, it's funny when we played that clip earlier in the show of Colbert saying he drives a Tesla.
00:54:54.000 Many Americans drive Tesla's.
00:54:56.000 They have no idea what's going with politics.
00:54:59.000 They're going to walk outside and find their tires slashed or something and say, I don't understand what this is happening to me.
00:55:04.000 What did I do wrong?
00:55:05.000 I was told to buy an electric car, so I did.
00:55:07.000 And now the left is destroying my car for having done it.
00:55:12.000 It may be that regular people just say, Trump, lock them up.
00:55:15.000 And then we get an end of the conflict.
00:55:17.000 The federal judges lose power.
00:55:18.000 Trump does what he wants.
00:55:20.000 And that's it.
00:55:22.000 I'm not so confident of such a rosy prediction.
00:55:30.000 I think that...
00:55:31.000 Now that I don't think that Tim's got points, I just think that the left isn't going to go away that easy.
00:55:37.000 And I think that the left in the U.S. and generally, these philosophies that people have, whether they're fully thought out or if they're just emotional inclination, I don't think that...
00:55:52.000 I think they're significantly part of us.
00:55:55.000 Like, if you're a right-leaning person, I think that's a strong portion of it is because of your personality.
00:56:02.000 If you're a left-leaning person, I think a strong portion of it is because of your personality.
00:56:08.000 Like, you know, Jordan Peterson and...
00:56:10.000 John Hight both talk about those kind of things.
00:56:12.000 Peterson talks about the, you know, your, your, your psychology and on Hight talks about the things that kind of, um, lead you to have your political opinions in the, the righteous mind.
00:56:25.000 I think it's a great book.
00:56:26.000 And I think that you don't just get away from leftists.
00:56:30.000 You know, I don't think that you just.
00:56:31.000 win and then the game is over.
00:56:34.000 And I think that that's what the left kind of thought when Barack Obama was elected.
00:56:38.000 They thought that, okay, we're kind of reached an end of history point from now on.
00:56:42.000 The Republicans are going to be only a regional, you know, in the South, and they'll put up their candidate every year, and every four years, and every four years, we're going to stomp them.
00:56:52.000 We'll always win forever, and we own the country now, you know?
00:56:55.000 Yeah. So there's a fascinating book called Darwinian Politics by guy named Paul Rubin, and he's got kind of models of what motivates left and right.
00:57:06.000 And essentially, right is focused on out-group domination, and the left is focused on in-group domination.
00:57:14.000 Both of these are very necessary in sort of a Darwinian situation, because otherwise your genes are going to be eliminated, either by the next tribe over or by the hot guy, whatever.
00:57:24.000 the guy who hunts well and then gets all the girls.
00:57:26.000 And so we have it built in to resist in-group out-group.
00:57:29.000 And those manifest in modern terms in the left and the right.
00:57:32.000 And these are enduring, right?
00:57:33.000 You can go back to Plato and you've got an identifiable left and right.
00:57:37.000 You can go back through ancient China and you've got one group that's advocating for equality and another one that's interested in.
00:57:43.000 in the fitness of the group and resisting external domination.
00:57:46.000 So those both exist.
00:57:48.000 But I think that when we're talking about the left here as a concerning organization, that's fundamentally a handing glove of the state.
00:57:56.000 And the state, you know, of course has common cause with socialists.
00:57:59.000 Yes. It wants there to be more government power, you know, and then it hires these sort of intellectual bodyguards that it directly funds.
00:58:07.000 So that, I think, is separate from this sort of innocent question of, you know, do we want more equality?
00:58:12.000 Because those have already been resolved by classical liberalism, right?
00:58:15.000 We're all equal before the law.
00:58:17.000 We all have equal rights to, you know, nobles are not supposed to be punished at different at lighter penalties, even though they in practice are.
00:58:25.000 But anyway, we've already resolved those questions largely.
00:58:28.000 The question now is, what about this violent hand and glove of the government?
00:58:31.000 That, I think, is absolutely defeatable.
00:58:34.000 I didn't expect Doge to uncover what it did.
00:58:38.000 I was thinking it would be exciting because it would lower government spending.
00:58:41.000 That would bend the curve on inflation.
00:58:43.000 Maybe we could get rid of some regulations.
00:58:45.000 We could grow the economy.
00:58:46.000 So I was excited on those grounds.
00:58:47.000 And once I started seeing that, just the rats nest in there.
00:58:51.000 But moreover, the realization that the entire violent, radical left is tax-funded, meaning that you can cut it off.
00:59:00.000 Now, the judges are doing, of course they're going to fight that, you know, because they understand that that's like their jugular, right?
00:59:07.000 That is their mother's milk.
00:59:09.000 That's what sustains the whole thing.
00:59:10.000 But I'm much more excited now that we can crush this thing once and for all.
00:59:14.000 Sure, people will be left and right, but it won't be this dangerous for them.
00:59:18.000 Well, I, if you go back to the 90s, left and right, largely agreed on everything.
00:59:21.000 Yeah. And there were a couple wedge issues.
00:59:24.000 Yeah. And then there were anti-war people who were like the Democrats and Republicans completely agree.
00:59:29.000 And even into the 2000s, it was still very similar.
00:59:32.000 Today, it is hyper-polarized.
00:59:34.000 Yeah. 9 o'clock?
00:59:36.000 To your point, like, there was this hardcore band that I listened to in the 90s called Earth Crisis, and they were a straight-edge, hardcore band.
00:59:45.000 You would think that because they were straight-edge, no drugs, you know, you would think that they were, they would be leftists.
00:59:52.000 And they might have considered themselves the leftists, but they were absolutely and totally against abortion.
00:59:58.000 Because it's killing it to them, they were like, this is killing an innocent life.
01:00:02.000 You know, and there's this one song that's, that's, it's called Firestorm and it's one of the best hardcore songs ever written, but it's like the whole point of it is.
01:00:12.000 is going through town and cleaning up the drug, the drug addicts and the dealers and the people that are, you know, basically destroying society, which is very, it sounds very right leaning, but they would have, they were vegans, they were straight edge, they were all about animal liberation, which are, you're strongly associated with the left today.
01:00:34.000 And so to Tim's point, there was a time where it wasn't so, clearly left and right were so polarized, there were actually issues that someone on the right and someone on the left could agree on.
01:00:48.000 Nowadays, it's almost as if people take their positions based on what the other party decides.
01:00:56.000 Well, right now, there is America, which is post-liberals, disaffected liberals, libertarians, conservatives, MAGA, even some neocons, and then there is the, I guess you'd call it, the anti-party.
01:01:11.000 The liberals of this country are literally, we have no plans, we are just your opposition.
01:01:16.000 So you have forces of light, creation, protection, expansion, discussion, enlightenment.
01:01:23.000 And then you have forces of darkness.
01:01:25.000 They literally only seek to destroy and there is no ideology backing anything they do.
01:01:30.000 This is, I think you're absolutely right.
01:01:32.000 And, you know, if you look at that sort of 1990s when we did have overlap, so let's call that Bill Clinton, right?
01:01:39.000 He had a bunch of policies where relative to traditional Democrats, he was trying to swing to the center.
01:01:44.000 Border security was a big issue.
01:01:46.000 He wanted the culture to be more uplifting.
01:01:49.000 not as crass and so on.
01:01:50.000 But the thing is that Donald Trump is essentially Bill Clinton.
01:01:53.000 In other words, he is occupying that centrist space, but just like you said, so you have this massive coalition that in terms of what they've always believed in their lives, voter preferences, they're on board with Trump.
01:02:05.000 That was a running joke after the election, right?
01:02:07.000 Was that the Democrats won, right?
01:02:09.000 We had Tulsi and RFK.
01:02:10.000 We had all these Democrats, including Donald Trump, Elon Musk.
01:02:13.000 Joe Rogan.
01:02:14.000 So I think that's absolutely true.
01:02:15.000 And the left is contracting now to where it's not sort of that natural 50-yard line of the population.
01:02:22.000 It's like 7 or 5 or 3%.
01:02:25.000 Sustained at this point only by corporate media and government money.
01:02:28.000 Yeah. I don't even, I've ceded away from using left and right terms as much because since the internet, since 9-11 and the internet, and movies like zeitgeist where people learned about fractional reserve currency for the first time in their lives, they learned about what's called the military industrial complex.
01:02:42.000 That wasn't like talking on, CBS never mentioned that in the 90s.
01:02:46.000 No one knew that there was fiat, I didn't, was never taught that in school.
01:02:49.000 It was under the radar.
01:02:51.000 So we had like political differences, but we still got along.
01:02:53.000 Then you still have like your anti-war people, but it's just what you said.
01:02:59.000 The media came in and kept brainwashing and the people that were like resistant to it were able to start thinking for themselves and they broke away.
01:03:06.000 And that was a great majority of the population.
01:03:08.000 But there's a segment that we just kept watching CBS and they're stuck in this like imperial propagandist loop of like, let's fascistly control your country through banking.
01:03:18.000 But they don't...
01:03:20.000 they're told like, well, they're doing the fascist thing.
01:03:24.000 Look over there.
01:03:24.000 And you're like, I don't, I personally, like, when I hear people talk about, like, controlling a country through fascist banking, I don't think that that, or at least I don't find that compelling.
01:03:34.000 Like, I think that, like, you know, equity markets and markets are good.
01:03:39.000 You know, money has a value, has a value, and also there's a price to borrow money.
01:03:43.000 I think interest rates shouldn't be set by the Federal Reserve, but the idea of lending money at interest, to me, I don't have a problem with that.
01:03:52.000 And it also allows for a lot of production in the economy.
01:03:57.000 And I think that you would probably agree with me there, you know?
01:04:00.000 No, for sure.
01:04:01.000 I mean, I think the objectionable part of it is the fascist or corporate sense where, you know, companies are calling the shots on this.
01:04:11.000 We also fundamentally, we have a dangerous architecture and how the banks are set up, which is fractional reserve banking.
01:04:16.000 Sure, yeah.
01:04:16.000 Fractional Reserve banking means that the entire banking system is permanently bankrun.
01:04:20.000 bankrupt by design.
01:04:22.000 The only thing keeping us afloat is the guarantee of bailouts by the Fed or by Treasury.
01:04:27.000 If those are ever in danger, which is what happened in 2008, right?
01:04:30.000 The 2008 crisis, everybody was coasting along doing great, right?
01:04:33.000 They were massively over leveraged.
01:04:34.000 They were printing money on Wall Street.
01:04:36.000 They had the hookers, the blow, the whole nine yards, everything was good.
01:04:40.000 And then W signaled that Lehman might not have bailed out.
01:04:45.000 And holy crap, that's what set it off, right?
01:04:48.000 So we have a very dangerous system.
01:04:50.000 I can see people opposing it.
01:04:51.000 There was a study that 93% Americans say that they don't know anything about the Federal Reserve.
01:04:57.000 Which is how they like it, right?
01:04:58.000 For all we talk about it, right?
01:05:00.000 For all in our circles, it's almost like a broken record.
01:05:03.000 The vast majority of people, they don't understand it.
01:05:04.000 And partly they don't understand it because it's intentionally difficult to understand.
01:05:08.000 It's designed that way.
01:05:08.000 They like it just fine.
01:05:10.000 So, yeah, I would agree the banking system is a huge problem, but there's a gulf there of explaining the people exactly why.
01:05:16.000 I think that for me anyway, like the biggest entry there...
01:05:20.000 to explain to people why the banking system is so bad the way it is, is that the Fed is effectively the venture capitalist of every new crisis, every new war.
01:05:27.000 If you had to go to the American people and you say, hey, listen, you want to screw around in Afghanistan, three and a half trillion it's going to cost us, but that's okay because we're just going to raise your taxes, so it'll be cool, 100,000 per household.
01:05:38.000 No way, right?
01:05:39.000 Instead, you get the Fed to float at all.
01:05:41.000 Right. So the Fed steps in there.
01:05:43.000 It effectively finances.
01:05:44.000 It buys up enough government debt that it's not going to hit the markets.
01:05:46.000 You can get this through.
01:05:47.000 Imagine COVID, right?
01:05:48.000 So early in COVID, right?
01:05:51.000 When they did the lockdowns, there was an estimate up in Canada.
01:05:53.000 I was there, I was in Quebec at the time.
01:05:55.000 They estimated that GDP would drop in half.
01:05:58.000 which means tax revenue would drop in half, which means government spending drops in half, which means bureaucrats drop in half.
01:06:03.000 Now, can you imagine an early meeting during COVID, where you're the junior bureaucrat and you show up, you say, hey, I got an idea, let's shut down everything, we'll just lay off half the government workers, right?
01:06:11.000 You're done.
01:06:12.000 You're done in government.
01:06:13.000 You're out in Guam, cleaning bathrooms.
01:06:15.000 No, instead, they had the Fed, so the Fed could print $6 trillion, exactly finance the crisis.
01:06:21.000 So the problem now is whether it's global warming, whether it's a respiratory infection, Okay, whatever the crisis is, the Fed can pump this up.
01:06:29.000 And people need to understand that is the dangerous part of Fiat.
01:06:32.000 Would you consider it a monopoly?
01:06:34.000 Yeah. Well, it's a counterfeiter and they have legal tender laws that mandate that you have to use it if you're in the United States.
01:06:41.000 So absolutely, yeah.
01:06:42.000 You know, it's when a society is small, What is the story?
01:06:48.000 Basically, people had gold.
01:06:49.000 Gold is heavy.
01:06:50.000 It's precious metals.
01:06:52.000 And I believe gold got its value largely because it's relatively scarce but malleable, so the kings could easily press them.
01:06:59.000 And then put the government seal on it, that this is what we accept as a currency, as legal tender.
01:07:06.000 So gold was valuable.
01:07:08.000 Then people start saying gold's too heavy.
01:07:10.000 I'm going to store it with a bank.
01:07:12.000 The bank then issues you a bank note saying, we got gold.
01:07:15.000 Eventually, people are like, I'll just give you my note.
01:07:16.000 You bring it to them.
01:07:17.000 You get the gold.
01:07:17.000 I don't want to deal with it.
01:07:18.000 Then the banks realized, hey, wait a minute.
01:07:21.000 They're not even trading the gold anymore.
01:07:22.000 We can trade the gold so long as we can pay.
01:07:26.000 How much on average do people pull out every month?
01:07:28.000 And they're like, I don't know what, 9%, some small number?
01:07:31.000 So you mean we can trade about 90% of this gold and make loans?
01:07:35.000 Because no one's ever going to put a run in the banks?
01:07:37.000 Well, then people ran on the banks.
01:07:39.000 There was a, was there one story where a guy got word in Southern California, something that the banks were shutting down and they were freezing his assets.
01:07:47.000 So he got on a horse and he ran as fast as he could on horseback to a bank in a neighboring town and then got his money from that bank instead with the bank notes, some crazy stuff like that.
01:07:56.000 Eventually, the government went, guys.
01:07:58.000 We don't even need gold.
01:08:00.000 Nobody wants to carry it.
01:08:02.000 Let's just get rid of it.
01:08:03.000 And then seize it from everybody and put it in our vault at Fort Knox.
01:08:07.000 Hopefully. I don't even know where it is anymore.
01:08:09.000 We need...
01:08:10.000 So what ends up happening is now with this massive system, nobody is actually tracking the hard value behind what currency is, what it's supposed to represent, the labor, the scarcity, etc.
01:08:19.000 And the bank...
01:08:20.000 I should say the government then realized...
01:08:23.000 You guys, we can just print as much money as we want forever.
01:08:27.000 And sure, inflation happens, but who cares?
01:08:29.000 We get to live for free.
01:08:31.000 And so we see that manifest in two ways.
01:08:33.000 You get the deficit spending where the Pentagon can't account for something like $2 trillion in their audit.
01:08:40.000 And doesn't mean the money's gone.
01:08:41.000 It means they don't know how it was transferred and where it ended up.
01:08:45.000 So a lot of people thought that meant $2 trillion was taken from the bank, put in someone's account.
01:08:49.000 No, no, no, no.
01:08:50.000 It means that they were like, someone spent 50 bucks here and we don't know what it was for because the credit card transaction just says Amazon.
01:08:57.000 That's when you can't account for something.
01:08:59.000 The next thing that happens is the government starts issuing grant money to NGOs who then hire lawyers who live in McLean, Texas and buy $5 million mansions and don't actually do work.
01:09:09.000 Now you live in the hunger games.
01:09:11.000 People like AOC then come out and say, guys, we can literally just deficit spend.
01:09:16.000 We don't need to ever balance the budget.
01:09:18.000 We just need to bounce the expansion of deficit.
01:09:21.000 The argument from these Democrats is if the rate of debt growth...
01:09:26.000 the size of the deficit maintains a certain percentage to interest, then we are able to print money indefinitely devalue the currency, but it's stable and it's devaluation.
01:09:41.000 So while we would argue our currency should retain its value for the labor we do, the modern argument is so long as we can project the devaluation, we're fine.
01:09:53.000 We just don't want to devalue too quickly.
01:09:56.000 That's where we're coming in.
01:09:56.000 Too much inflation too quickly would be bad for the scheme.
01:09:59.000 Now we are in a system of intentional inflation.
01:10:03.000 Well, there's one more piece to the intentional inflation.
01:10:08.000 They say that it spurs people to spend money and go out as opposed to sitting on the money.
01:10:16.000 So I don't know how much you might have the argument is if there's a certain low amount of inflation, people will not sit on money because things that they want to buy will be more expensive in a year.
01:10:29.000 And what actually is happening is...
01:10:31.000 The guy who lives in McLean, I say Texas, McLean, Virginia.
01:10:35.000 Sorry, I meant Virginia.
01:10:37.000 He's going to get a $5 million grant.
01:10:39.000 The government's going to grant his NGO $5 million.
01:10:42.000 And he's going to buy groceries.
01:10:43.000 At the end of the year, he's going to say, what was the inflation?
01:10:45.000 And they're going to say it was 17%.
01:10:47.000 He goes, okay, give me $5.5 million next year.
01:10:50.000 You got a boss.
01:10:51.000 Inflation doesn't affect the people who are skimming from the deficit spend.
01:10:55.000 Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:57.000 So the point that you're talking about with the people need to spend it so we need inflation.
01:11:00.000 So that goes to something.
01:11:02.000 So the way that government calculates the size of the economy is with GDP.
01:11:09.000 And it generally presents that as if that is telling us how wealthy we are, right?
01:11:13.000 GDP goes up.
01:11:14.000 It means we're getting rich.
01:11:15.000 GDP goes down.
01:11:16.000 It means we're getting poor.
01:11:17.000 GDP is not wealth.
01:11:19.000 GDP is activity.
01:11:21.000 It's like looking busy.
01:11:23.000 Some things are useful when you're looking busy, like building a Tesla.
01:11:28.000 Some things are not like digging up holes and filling them or, say, building ammunition to go launch at countries that we have no fight with.
01:11:35.000 All right.
01:11:35.000 And so you want to separate those two things.
01:11:38.000 Right. So if you are forcing people to go spend by, you know, essentially eroding their dollar by using inflation, then yes, they will be more busy.
01:11:47.000 Right. The GDP will go up.
01:11:49.000 They will be desperate to go buy crap so that they don't lose their purchasing power.
01:11:53.000 But that's actually impoverishing them.
01:11:55.000 So what you'd rather do is look at the wealth.
01:11:57.000 Now, this matters because right now when we talk about what's happening with the economy, most of what Trump is doing is very, very good for the economy.
01:12:04.000 It makes us rich.
01:12:05.000 Cutting taxes, getting rid of red tape, regulations, drill, baby drill.
01:12:10.000 But two of the things that he's doing will reduce GDP even as they make us rich.
01:12:14.000 Those are mass deportations and Doge.
01:12:17.000 So government spending shows up as GDP because they're grading themselves and government statisticians are making the numbers, right?
01:12:25.000 So they say every dollar we spend in the government, even if it's blowing up a bridge in Ukraine and then building it again the next year.
01:12:30.000 In Iraq, we literally would do that, right?
01:12:32.000 We'd blow something up, build it.
01:12:33.000 Each time, GDP, bam, right?
01:12:35.000 And then the other one is mass deportation.
01:12:37.000 So if you bring in a bunch of aliens here who say can't read and you give them a bunch of welfare and you put them up in expensive hotels in Roosevelt, boom, all shows up as GDP.
01:12:47.000 If they steal a job for an American, again, shows up to GDP because the American is getting welfare.
01:12:52.000 The illegal is now earning a wage, right?
01:12:54.000 And so you put that together, and all of it is we're all very, very busy.
01:12:58.000 Okay, but we're bankrupting.
01:13:00.000 And so that will be a distinction where we may well see a recession this year if Doge actually cut spending and if we, you know, deport two million people.
01:13:09.000 Would it be smart to, like, grade our GDP?
01:13:12.000 Like, this is a green GDP.
01:13:14.000 This is orange.
01:13:14.000 This is yellow.
01:13:15.000 This is red.
01:13:16.000 Depending on how valuable it actually is to the sustainability of the system.
01:13:20.000 Yeah. I mean, it's tricky, you know, because you'd have to dig in and be like, you know, how much our church service is worth.
01:13:27.000 You know, the simple way to do it, which both Milton Friedman and Murray Rothbard liked, is just separate take out government from GDP.
01:13:34.000 It doesn't count.
01:13:35.000 Right. Chicago public schools have something like a 20% literacy rate on the kids they graduate.
01:13:42.000 They spend $28,000 a year.
01:13:45.000 I would argue that's not GDP.
01:13:46.000 That's destruction.
01:13:46.000 You took perfectly good kids and perfectly good buildings and used it.
01:13:51.000 The Soviet Union did that, by the way.
01:13:53.000 They would make furniture.
01:13:54.000 They would take timber that had actual value.
01:13:56.000 They could have exported it to Germany.
01:13:57.000 It had value.
01:13:58.000 And they turned it into furniture that was so garbage that they actually removed value.
01:14:02.000 So the simple answer is just take government out, subtract it from GDP, and just look at private sector GDP.
01:14:09.000 At that point, you're relying on people's willingness to buy the product to tell you whether it was valuable or not.
01:14:13.000 You're not making any more judgment on that.
01:14:15.000 And the reason you don't want to make judgments is because fundamentally Trump will not be in power forever.
01:14:20.000 Deep state bureaucrats will control how all these statistics are calculated, so you want to keep it as clean as possible.
01:14:25.000 What about like NGOs?
01:14:27.000 Would that be considered GDP?
01:14:28.000 Not if they're funded by the government.
01:14:30.000 Yeah, it's tricky.
01:14:31.000 It's debatable.
01:14:32.000 I mean, they're not producing final goods and services, but it depends how you define it.
01:14:38.000 So, yeah, that would be a gray area.
01:14:40.000 You classified the Federal Reserve as a counterfeiting system.
01:14:44.000 Absolutely. Why is that?
01:14:47.000 That's always been the deal with central banking, is that some hustler shows up and tells the government, hey, listen, I'm going to finance your debt.
01:14:56.000 And in exchange, I want to license to counterfeit money.
01:14:59.000 That is the fundamental deal ever since the Bank of Amsterdam, which predated the Bank of England, Bank of Sweden.
01:15:05.000 Those were the early ones.
01:15:06.000 And the Fed was actually late to the game.
01:15:08.000 That is the fundamental deal.
01:15:09.000 We finance you in exchange for a license to print money.
01:15:13.000 Now, about a quarter of the money that's printed in the U.S., in other words, a quarter of the inflation, comes from that.
01:15:19.000 The Fed essentially, they sit in a basement, they type ones and zeros in an Excel sheet.
01:15:24.000 They say, this is money, and then they go and buy stuff.
01:15:27.000 That is how the money gets born.
01:15:29.000 That's about a quarter of inflation.
01:15:30.000 The other three quarters of inflation is the fraction reserve banking we were talking about, which is where banks literally, like when you go for a bank loan, if you go to get a mortgage, the bank will tell you you have to open an account in this bank.
01:15:41.000 You say, why is that?
01:15:43.000 Why can't you just send me the money in my other bank?
01:15:45.000 Well, the reason is because they are creating the bank, the money from thin air.
01:15:49.000 So they create the money, and then traditionally they have to put a certain amount in reserve.
01:15:54.000 Tim was talking about 9% of something like that.
01:15:57.000 But they actually got rid of that during COVID.
01:15:59.000 And so at this point, a bank can, in principle.
01:16:01.000 They did bring it back.
01:16:02.000 I'm pretty sure they brought it back because we've covered it quite a bit.
01:16:04.000 Okay. When COVID started, they removed the fractional reserve limit.
01:16:09.000 It used to be that a bank can only lend out up to 90%, I think it was 90% of their holdings, which meant that...
01:16:17.000 Money was created upon the issuance of debt.
01:16:19.000 A bank has a million dollars.
01:16:20.000 They can issue $900,000 in loans.
01:16:22.000 They're not giving $900,000 cash.
01:16:24.000 They're creating a debt.
01:16:24.000 So they have $1.9 million.
01:16:26.000 They go from $1,000,000.
01:16:27.000 They have to print that $900,000 first.
01:16:27.000 It's created digitally.
01:16:28.000 And then once they have $19.1.9 million, they can take 90% of that number, too.
01:16:30.000 And boy, does that inflate.
01:16:30.000 A bank has a million bucks.
01:16:31.000 They give you a loan for $900,000, which creates the currency for the purchase of a building.
01:16:33.000 And then once they have $1.9 million, they can take 90% of that number too.
01:16:37.000 And boy, does that inflate.
01:16:39.000 A bank has a million bucks.
01:16:40.000 They give you a loan for $900,000, which creates the currency for the purchase of a building.
01:16:47.000 That person sells the building, the guy who gets the cash, goes whoopee, goes to that bank and gives the 900,000 to them.
01:16:54.000 Now they have 1.9.
01:16:54.000 They can issue another loan for 90% of that.
01:16:58.000 And so it goes on.
01:16:59.000 Yep. So it's one over the number and so it can get 10, 50, 100 times.
01:17:03.000 During COVID, they removed the limit and said you can loan as much as you want whenever you want.
01:17:08.000 Do you think I'm kind of all about the repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, investigate the Fed, audit the Fed.
01:17:15.000 Ron Paul is big on it.
01:17:16.000 I think Trump loves the idea, but it's like, okay, there are many hornets nests.
01:17:21.000 That one's pretty big.
01:17:23.000 What would that look like?
01:17:23.000 In due time.
01:17:25.000 Well, look at what's going on with USAID.
01:17:27.000 Trump kicked a small source of, oh, actually, I'd say a large list of funding.
01:17:31.000 We found that we had that $375 billion EPA slush fund that Zeldon found, and there was $20 billion going to climate change NGOs, one of which was formed like the month prior and then received a multi-billion dollar award.
01:17:44.000 Yet nobody believes that's real.
01:17:47.000 Now go take a look at the Fed and good luck.
01:17:51.000 Yeah, I think there's a very good chance they're going to audit it.
01:17:53.000 And if they do, you know, what we've seen with those so far is just the ammunition is amazing.
01:17:58.000 Like the kinds of fines you find.
01:18:00.000 Let me simplify it for everybody.
01:18:03.000 It's hard to understand the Fed.
01:18:04.000 How can the average person grasp this?
01:18:07.000 Here you go.
01:18:08.000 Imagine there was a group of individuals who did not do any work and they were wealthier than you to like the tune of 10,000, 1 million percent plus.
01:18:17.000 You work every day.
01:18:18.000 You break your back.
01:18:20.000 You struggle to buy groceries for your kids.
01:18:21.000 And there's a guy who lives in McLean, Virginia, sitting around who makes $13 million a year and literally does not work because he's part of the machine that was built to steal from you.
01:18:32.000 Literally the hunger games.
01:18:33.000 They live in the capital.
01:18:34.000 They don't have to work.
01:18:35.000 They get to be millionaires.
01:18:36.000 They get to be billionaires.
01:18:37.000 And they don't do anything.
01:18:39.000 The Fed is basically a way to control that money for nobility.
01:18:43.000 And the peasants and the peons have to work for the rest.
01:18:45.000 I thought the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 was the beginning of the coup.
01:18:49.000 You said, no, no, no.
01:18:50.000 Is the Pendleton Act potentially 1871?
01:18:52.000 What was that?
01:18:52.000 What happened?
01:18:53.000 So the Pendleton Act was the first attempt to create a professional bureaucracy.
01:18:59.000 And it was pushed through by the left, and they were attacking government corruption.
01:19:04.000 Government is always corrupt, newsflash.
01:19:05.000 No matter who runs it, no matter how you structure it, government is a fact of the universe.
01:19:11.000 And so they use government corruption to install this system where the bureaucracy was in theory going to be independent.
01:19:18.000 It was going to be independent of the president and in theory of Congress.
01:19:23.000 The problem is that once you do that, you are making it independent of the voters, right?
01:19:29.000 Because the only influence that voters have over the government is through the president and through Congress.
01:19:34.000 So if you've made the bureaucracy independent, you've made it independent from voters, meaning who exactly does it serve?
01:19:41.000 And we now know who it serves, which is that it serves itself.
01:19:44.000 And it develops relationships with golden parachutes with all kinds of outside organizations, then does favors for them.
01:19:51.000 And they either give them money while they're in office or they went until they're out of office.
01:19:55.000 You know, the sort of stereotypical SEC commissioner who goes and has lunch with Goldman Sachs and they discuss what his career objectives are in the future.
01:20:03.000 Right? And so that was really the bureaucratic coup.
01:20:07.000 And that was, I think it was 1871 or 73. And then it built up over time.
01:20:10.000 And that thing created this sort of outside organization that was permanently pushing to grow the government.
01:20:17.000 So once we had the Pendleton Act, before then, it kind of zigged in it, zagged.
01:20:21.000 The government got bigger, it got smaller, it got bigger, smaller.
01:20:23.000 Generally wars made it bigger.
01:20:24.000 And then there'd be a reaction to that.
01:20:26.000 Andrew Jackson was the classic.
01:20:27.000 He absolutely shrunk the government massively.
01:20:30.000 He fired something like, I think he fired about 10% of bureaucrats and he told the rest of them, get in line or you'll be next, right?
01:20:35.000 That was about 1830s.
01:20:37.000 That was before Pendleton.
01:20:38.000 He also closed the central bank, by the way, the Fed at the time, the so-called Second Bank of the United States.
01:20:43.000 Awesome. So you had these zigs and theseags.
01:20:45.000 Once you got Pendleton, at that point, it was a treadmill, only one direction up and up.
01:20:49.000 Who got put into the power of the bureaucracy when Pendleton got signed?
01:20:54.000 I think the year, during that period, Republicans, which were the left-wing party, they were the party of government, they generally dominated.
01:21:02.000 It was post-civil war, and so they had disenfranchised a lot of southern states, which were traditionally democratic, so they kind of had a lock on power.
01:21:11.000 And that's why they put it in, because they were sort of institutionalizing that pro-government power that at the time the Republicans...
01:21:17.000 We're doing now the handicapping the Democrats turned out to be so successful that the Democrat Party essentially gave up and just became a super Republican party, which is how we got two left-wing parties.
01:21:28.000 We're going to jump to this next story from the New York Times to change the subject in a hard segue, as it were, but we'll come back to that in a minute.
01:21:35.000 Ben and Jerry's accuses Unilever of firing its CEO for political reasons.
01:21:39.000 Ben and Jerry said in the court file in its parent company had ousted its chief executive David Steaver without approval from the ice cream maker's board.
01:21:47.000 Well, Ben and Jerry's used to be great.
01:21:50.000 I remember when I was a kid and Cherry Garcia was becoming popular.
01:21:53.000 Everybody loved that.
01:21:54.000 Weird flavors you didn't normally get and they were very delicious.
01:21:57.000 And now all of a sudden it is the cringiest of cringe cult garbage.
01:22:01.000 And you've got these billboards.
01:22:03.000 I know my rights.
01:22:04.000 Colin Kaepernicks changed the world.
01:22:07.000 Indeed. So the long story short, the CEO was fired and the individuals at Ben and Jerry say that part of the agreement with the sale was that they would be continued to engage in their social mission of the company.
01:22:20.000 Apparently Unilever doesn't like it.
01:22:23.000 And so now they're being sued.
01:22:24.000 They're accused of firing the CEO because he allowed the ice cream maker to speak out on political issues.
01:22:30.000 In a filing, Ben and Jerry said Unilever had fired David Steaver because his commitment to his company's social mission.
01:22:35.000 Rather than his job performance, he has out of the ice cream company's top jobs in 2023.
01:22:39.000 We don't buy Ben and Jerry's anymore because they're psychotic.
01:22:43.000 It's an insane company.
01:22:46.000 But I do find this to be absolutely hilarious in that it epitomizes meritocracy versus ideology.
01:22:54.000 Ben and Jerry's, I can only assume, is hurting if Unilever would violate their contract and fire the guy.
01:23:03.000 knowing they were going to get into a lawsuit.
01:23:05.000 I have to imagine if your company prioritizes social issues over a product, i.e., you're an activist nonprofit and not a for-profit ice cream maker, you are going to lose money.
01:23:17.000 And here we are.
01:23:19.000 So I guess what I can say is woke is broke, another victory.
01:23:23.000 And this is the other side of the Bud Light coin or the other side of the Bud Light Hill.
01:23:28.000 Bud Light got woke.
01:23:29.000 They felt that burn really bad.
01:23:32.000 Now on the corporate side of things, they're saying purge the woke and get it out.
01:23:37.000 I mean, you do have a product that you have to sell, and the way that Ben and Jerry's behaves makes it clear that to at least a third of the country, they don't want you to buy their product.
01:23:49.000 And I mean, look, ice cream is an everybody thing.
01:23:53.000 I love ice cream, right?
01:23:54.000 Like, I don't think there are a lot of people that don't love ice cream.
01:23:57.000 And to just be like, oh, well, we don't want you, you know, selling, buying our product or to be so...
01:24:03.000 inundated with the social issues.
01:24:06.000 It's got to hurt business.
01:24:08.000 So this goes back to at the top, we were talking about the terrorism against Tesla and in BLM as well.
01:24:15.000 And I think that we are absolutely, this is going to be a trend now where companies are going to get back to basics.
01:24:20.000 Traditionally in this country, companies did not get involved in politics because why piss off pretty much does Republicans buy shoes to too, right?
01:24:27.000 Yeah, exactly, right.
01:24:28.000 Like on Israel-Palestine, you are going to offend half your audience, so just stay out of it.
01:24:35.000 And that was the traditional wisdom, but I think companies could not do that because of intimidation by the left.
01:24:40.000 And a lot of that was regulatory intimidation.
01:24:42.000 So in a lot of these businesses, especially in media, you can't piss off your regulator.
01:24:47.000 And once the left locked hands with regulators, a lot of these companies had to do what they did.
01:24:53.000 So now that you've got the government pressure coming off, the activist pressure coming off, now they can actually look again at the bottom line.
01:25:00.000 And, you know, you look at a company like Disney and it's just suicidal what they've done.
01:25:04.000 They know who their audience is.
01:25:05.000 They're not that dumb.
01:25:07.000 I mean, any of us know who their audiences.
01:25:10.000 Part of me thinks that Disney did the things they did because they believed that they had more influence than they do.
01:25:18.000 I think it is...
01:25:19.000 My prediction with the Bud Light story was that we were going to find out it was going to be some millennial woman who had just gotten promoted to the position who changed their policy from Fratbrough to feminist lesbian.
01:25:31.000 And what did we discover?
01:25:33.000 Indeed, it was a millennial liberal woman who recently got a promotion and said, no more fat white guys buying and drinking beer at the grill.
01:25:42.000 We want...
01:25:44.000 Trans people.
01:25:44.000 She said, we want young drinkers, was what she said.
01:25:47.000 That was crazy.
01:25:48.000 Young drinkers.
01:25:48.000 That's true.
01:25:49.000 But they were like attracting a new audience.
01:25:52.000 With Dylan Mulvaney, yeah.
01:25:53.000 And boy, did that really destroy the company because it turns out that even 20-year-old people would much prefer a beer commercial where a guy is flipping a burger as opposed to Dylan Mulvaney.
01:26:03.000 Like hitting a baseball.
01:26:04.000 I mean, something.
01:26:06.000 So I used to teach MBA marketing, right?
01:26:08.000 And it's like marketing 101 is you have to love your customer just the way they are.
01:26:14.000 You don't fix them.
01:26:15.000 You don't change them.
01:26:16.000 You don't lecture them.
01:26:18.000 Because if you do that, they're going to find another boyfriend.
01:26:20.000 They're going to go find somebody else who produces a product that is catered for them.
01:26:25.000 And so corporate America...
01:26:27.000 It's taken them a while.
01:26:28.000 I think another element of that has been the sort of shareholder advisory services, which is this way that woke can sort of insert itself into the financial system and force companies to do weird things like, you know, like Disney doing this or like Exxon doing green energy are just bizarre things.
01:26:43.000 But fundamentally, I think that finally they're waking up, they're shaking out of this.
01:26:48.000 You have to love your customers just the way they are.
01:26:51.000 Yeah, I mean, you can't think that you're going to dictate opinions to your customers.
01:26:57.000 You have to go to people where they are.
01:26:59.000 Yeah, but take a look at Ben and Jerry's.
01:27:01.000 It's always been a leftist company.
01:27:02.000 I'd argue that their leadership was probably just saying, we've always been a progressive company.
01:27:07.000 We're always going to be, so we just go with that trend.
01:27:11.000 But I think as it turns out, what is perceived to be, their customer is incorrect.
01:27:16.000 And people want to buy ice cream.
01:27:18.000 And it's off-putting when they engage in these kind of practices.
01:27:20.000 Yeah. To be fair, though, actually, it's probably unfair.
01:27:24.000 They made AmeriCone Dream, Stephen Colbert's waffle, fudge, ice cream, whatever.
01:27:29.000 That's just a late-night host.
01:27:30.000 And then didn't Jimmy Kimmel get one?
01:27:32.000 That was weird with potato chips or something like that?
01:27:34.000 I think so.
01:27:34.000 Oh, potato chips are good.
01:27:35.000 Colin Kaepernick was just really off.
01:27:38.000 But I do feel like they thought they were targeting progressives and they were a social mission company.
01:27:44.000 They probably have their core audience, which is those progressives, and they have a whole bunch of people who just eat it because it tastes good and they don't care about the politics and they were losing them.
01:27:51.000 I think these companies thought woke was mainstream.
01:27:55.000 Maybe. Yeah.
01:27:56.000 That's why Target put the LGBT tuck-friendly bathing suits up in the front where kids would see it.
01:28:01.000 And then parents freaked out and they were like, oh man, was that not the right thing to do?
01:28:05.000 As the woke began to dominate media, they created a perception that they were the majority.
01:28:11.000 And most people were scared to speak up out of fear of getting canceled.
01:28:14.000 You know, it's really fascinating about this ideology of wokeness.
01:28:19.000 Two points.
01:28:20.000 The reason why I think Gen Z is going to break from the left is that you take a look at the Teslas.
01:28:26.000 This is not so much about Gen Z. This is more about regular, you know, millennials or whatever.
01:28:31.000 We were all told to buy electric cars.
01:28:33.000 Colbert got one.
01:28:35.000 Two years later, they're torching them, shooting at them.
01:28:38.000 So that was a mistake.
01:28:39.000 We were all told we were allowed to make certain jokes.
01:28:42.000 Sarah Silverman lost a movie role because she did Blackface at a time when it was totally appropriate to do.
01:28:47.000 Jimmy Kimball did Blackface.
01:28:49.000 Why was she being targeted?
01:28:51.000 What I see what is likely to happen now is the young kids, the Gen Ziers, who grew up in an era where you could not know what was socially acceptable or not, and you were constantly threatened.
01:29:03.000 You were living like a rabbit wound up so tight you could burst at any moment.
01:29:08.000 They are going to find reprieve in people like Donald Trump and people on the right who are just like, bro, I don't care what you call me.
01:29:15.000 You can say, you can say gay and you can say retarded.
01:29:17.000 And people are going to be like, I can relax now.
01:29:20.000 I think young people are going to move that direction.
01:29:21.000 Not to mention, I do want to stress this too, because we didn't get in the Harry Sisson story.
01:29:25.000 But Harry Sisson, of course, was according to the left, praying upon young women.
01:29:31.000 viciously, this liberal young man, this Democrat, was praying like a merciless predator on these poor young men.
01:29:39.000 You're going to say priests.
01:29:40.000 And right now, there's a story that we covered a while ago, but it's going viral again.
01:29:46.000 About half of young men, 18 to 25, have never approached a woman.
01:29:50.000 Or in the last year, have not approached a woman.
01:29:52.000 Somewhere around like a third of those guys have never done it and most haven't done it in a year.
01:29:58.000 Nobody wants to live that way.
01:29:59.000 Nobody wants to live that way.
01:30:00.000 And that's the world created by woke.
01:30:02.000 Harry Sisson is under fire right now because he was sexting a bunch of different women at the same time while claiming he wasn't.
01:30:08.000 So he was playing these women.
01:30:10.000 And a bunch of people on the right are like, don't need to play your man.
01:30:12.000 That's what young men do.
01:30:14.000 This guy would likely advocate for you to be imprisoned if you were caught doing these things.
01:30:20.000 He'd say, these predators should be canceled and banned.
01:30:23.000 And then behind the scenes, he's doing exactly what he claims to not do.
01:30:27.000 He tweets about, oh, no, the country is abandoning women and women's rights.
01:30:32.000 And then while he's advocating for these feminist ideals, of course, he is anything but.
01:30:37.000 People like him create this world.
01:30:39.000 Young people don't want to live in.
01:30:42.000 So I think we're going to see a snap back.
01:30:44.000 And I think that's what you see with Donald Trump being the first Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years.
01:30:48.000 Ben and Jerry's firing their CEO is the other side of the Bud Light Hill.
01:30:52.000 We were fighting like crazy.
01:30:54.000 Budlight went woke, and we said, enough.
01:30:57.000 Kid Rock unloaded a full auto machine gun on that Bud Light, and everybody rallied around it, ditched Bud Light to this day.
01:31:05.000 Surprisingly, yeah, it's maintained.
01:31:07.000 And they've struggled to recover.
01:31:09.000 This was an attack on a market attack on this corporation for being woke.
01:31:14.000 Now on the other side of this, the corporations are abandoning woke intentionally because they see the writing on the wall.
01:31:21.000 Nobody wants to live in that world.
01:31:23.000 And I think it's going to fade away.
01:31:25.000 But we'll see, you know, a drowning person is dangerous, right?
01:31:29.000 When they say when you're going to go rescue someone, trying to go behind them, otherwise they'll thrash at you and drag you down with them.
01:31:35.000 So as the woke gets smothered out of existence, I'm wondering to what degree they may weather underground or worse.
01:31:43.000 I mean, they already are.
01:31:43.000 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't have a sense of the levels of violence that they'll resort to, but they clearly will resort to violence.
01:31:54.000 Well, thank goodness we have this massive military where, you know, Trump has already bringing them back for the border.
01:32:00.000 And, you know, that's an open question as declaring martial law in some of these cities that things get too violent.
01:32:05.000 So fundamentally, normally, I criticize the massive size of our military.
01:32:09.000 But in this case, you know, if you want to dance, go for it, fellas.
01:32:13.000 It is worth noting that...
01:32:16.000 like during the time that the weather underground was really active, the economy was kind of crap.
01:32:22.000 The 70s were, you know, a lost decade, you know, the economy was garbage.
01:32:28.000 If you if Trump's economic plans do work the way that he says they will, and we have a resurgence of productivity in this country and we have an economic boom, a lot of the people that are P.O.
01:32:41.000 And look at the U.S.
01:32:43.000 and say capitalism sucks and it's not fair and blah, blah, blah.
01:32:46.000 They'll have opportunities that they don't have right now.
01:32:49.000 And that will fix a lot of the problems.
01:32:51.000 And that goes to what Tim was talking about, Gen X, or Gen Z. Gen Z is an almost perfect thing.
01:32:58.000 you know, copy of Gen X, like the entire origin story here, right?
01:33:02.000 You had the crappy 70s, you had the crappy, all this stuff that happened the last couple of years, Biden inflation and the COVID and the violence and all this.
01:33:10.000 And, you know, if we could see Gen Z be like a super version of X. I think the other key here is that when Reagan won office, the media were savage to him.
01:33:20.000 I mean, they were just as bad as they are to Trump now.
01:33:22.000 They compared him to Hitler.
01:33:23.000 They said he was going to start World War III.
01:33:25.000 Just down the line, he was racist, he hated gays.
01:33:27.000 I mean, every single one, because they just play that on repeat every single time.
01:33:33.000 How many states did he win in re-election?
01:33:36.000 48. I think it was 48. Right.
01:33:38.000 So it doesn't work.
01:33:40.000 And I think particularly when you parrot, you know, having gone through the valley of darkness and then coming out into the light, I think Gen Z may be, I mean, already like Trump was within five points on Gen Z, something like that.
01:33:52.000 Yeah. Which is crazy for young people, right?
01:33:54.000 Traditionally, it's like 20 points.
01:33:56.000 So I have great hopes for Gen Z. What do you see?
01:33:58.000 Five points in what way?
01:33:59.000 What happened with?
01:34:00.000 He, he, in the election, he was within five points in the vote among 20-somethings.
01:34:05.000 Oh, so he took 45% essentially of the...
01:34:07.000 Yeah, I agree with you on this Gen Z revolution.
01:34:11.000 It does feel like the 80s.
01:34:13.000 It feels like they had to suffer through hair spray, big hair, ugly-looking makeup, and not understanding why they're not attracted to those girls, but being told they're supposed to be.
01:34:22.000 And then all of a sudden, the internet appears, and they're like, whoa, manipulation.
01:34:27.000 It's different for them because they had the internet the entire time.
01:34:30.000 And they were, but so that manipulation is just, I mean, the grossness, and it stays with you your entire life when you've been tricked by being told like, blackface is okay.
01:34:40.000 No, blackface is not okay.
01:34:41.000 Be afraid.
01:34:42.000 No, no, no, no.
01:34:43.000 You deal with that maybe three times.
01:34:44.000 And then if you see a group of people that aren't into it, you're with that group.
01:34:47.000 It's kind of wild that we grew up on jackass.
01:34:51.000 Yeah. The CKY videos.
01:34:52.000 Everybody was watching Johnny Knoxville punch Bambarger in the balls.
01:34:56.000 George Carlin was going up on stage in the early 90s and he has a bit that he famously did in his comedy special in his tours where he would say every possible racial slur he could think of as fast as he could and then called two prominent black comedians, the N-word.
01:35:12.000 One of the best comedians of all time.
01:35:13.000 Indeed. And South Park and Family Guy.
01:35:16.000 And we somehow ended up in this world?
01:35:19.000 Well, we're coming out the other side of it, so that's good.
01:35:21.000 Yeah, I do believe.
01:35:22.000 That's why I bring up this term revolution a lot.
01:35:23.000 And I started in 2006, 2006.
01:35:25.000 It's a revolution of the mind is what I said.
01:35:27.000 That's also what Chairman Mao said.
01:35:29.000 So I'm glad I didn't take the cult forward that way.
01:35:31.000 But... We are in a global revolution.
01:35:33.000 It is a seizure of the mind of the human race right now.
01:35:36.000 People are scrambling and trying to control the system.
01:35:38.000 And I think this decentralized motive of internet has allowed us to actually thrive as a species in a way.
01:35:45.000 Maybe we've never done before as human.
01:35:49.000 Probably the closest analog is Gutenberg.
01:35:53.000 the rise of movable text.
01:35:55.000 So this was back in the 1400s.
01:35:56.000 And the reason is before then, you had to have a bunch of monks writing out books by hand.
01:36:01.000 After Gutenberg, you could print up 10,000 pamphlets calling for a peasant revolt.
01:36:07.000 So you had this fundamental transfer of power from the center with the standing armies to the people.
01:36:13.000 Traditionally, the people had a hard time organizing, but there were a lot more of them, right?
01:36:18.000 They outnumbered the center.
01:36:19.000 And so we then had 200 years of blood, so hopefully we don't actually get that part of it.
01:36:25.000 But the point is, I think the internet is a Gutenberg 2.0, right?
01:36:28.000 It's this fundamental shift of power from the center to the edges.
01:36:33.000 That's why they went straight for the censorship.
01:36:35.000 That's why it was so important to them.
01:36:36.000 Yeah, with the Gutenberg Press, I think it was Queen Elizabeth, instantiated copyright.
01:36:41.000 That was how it came about.
01:36:42.000 It didn't exist before.
01:36:43.000 And they realized, ooh, we need to control this text somehow.
01:36:46.000 That was also the origins of the postal system.
01:36:49.000 So the reason for post offices was to censor.
01:36:51.000 Specifically, you had to intercept that kind of communication because it could spread riots or peasant revolts.
01:36:57.000 So the entire function of the post office is to read your mail and then consider arresting you.
01:37:02.000 And then when did that get changed?
01:37:05.000 In theory, when did that supposedly stop?
01:37:08.000 Maybe it will be something.
01:37:09.000 Then you know how to get email and they were like, yeah, we're tracking the emails, et cetera, et cetera.
01:37:12.000 So it's a similar.
01:37:13.000 Yeah. Right.
01:37:15.000 So government created a monopoly.
01:37:17.000 It would make it illegal for you to pay private people to go carry a mail because traditionally you would just, you know, you would just leave your mail with some merchant who's going town from town to town.
01:37:26.000 And instead the government came and said, no, no, you can't do it anymore.
01:37:29.000 Now you have to use the government version.
01:37:31.000 Okay. Which maybe not as nefarious as it seems.
01:37:34.000 You know, I mean, I think some...
01:37:35.000 Well, that was the intended purpose was because the government wanted to read your correspondence.
01:37:39.000 It's pretty crazy.
01:37:41.000 I'm always with this balance of order and chaos and, like, you need a little chaos.
01:37:44.000 Otherwise, the ordered system can become, like, infected, and then there's no way to prevent the infection because the system's got too much fluidity in it.
01:37:51.000 You need corruption to break up the infection.
01:37:54.000 Let's play this video real quick.
01:37:56.000 I don't know how much time we have left before we go to Super Chats, but watch this.
01:38:00.000 Do we have audio on this?
01:38:01.000 We do.
01:38:01.000 This is Boston Dynamics Atlas Robot.
01:38:05.000 And I think we predicted this already.
01:38:09.000 We're a year away from this thing walking around carrying your groceries for you.
01:38:12.000 Yep. Is he heel stomping just then when he ran?
01:38:14.000 Or was he running on his toes?
01:38:15.000 Watch this, watch.
01:38:20.000 It is crawling.
01:38:21.000 That looks like you remember.
01:38:23.000 It's not.
01:38:24.000 It gets better.
01:38:30.000 Shoulder roll.
01:38:34.000 Jeez. I'm telling you, it's a year or two, and you're going to see this walking down the street carrying a bag of grocery isn't going to cart.
01:38:42.000 Oh, geez.
01:38:44.000 Well, here we go.
01:38:45.000 This is crazy.
01:38:48.000 It's break dancing.
01:38:51.000 I said it before.
01:38:52.000 Oh, cartwheel.
01:38:54.000 I'll say it before.
01:38:55.000 I'll say it again.
01:38:56.000 I am mostly excited about running full speed and a dark alley with a group of others being chased by these robots after the AI apocalyptic takeover and then being forced to fight them.
01:39:07.000 I mean, we've said a lot that you can't hold a street corner with drones, but these dudes with an M16, you can hold a street corner with a robot that's, I mean, it wouldn't you be holding an empty?
01:39:17.000 It'd just be mounted.
01:39:18.000 Isn't it funny that, like, in Terminator, we gave them skulls with, like, bare teeth, like, or did the robots do that on purpose?
01:39:24.000 I think they did.
01:39:25.000 They were supposed to look like people, and then the robots were like, dispense with the skin, let's just go after them.
01:39:29.000 Well, look what we're doing now.
01:39:31.000 It looks more like that thing from that, uh, that Ant Man movie.
01:39:34.000 Yeah, I mean, the funny, you know, it's, you know, it's really creepy?
01:39:37.000 See the head?
01:39:39.000 That's not the head.
01:39:41.000 The head's in the chest, yeah.
01:39:42.000 Oh, right.
01:39:42.000 Yeah. Yeah.
01:39:43.000 Really? So when you meet the animatronic woman and she looked at you and she's like, hey, Ian, and you're looking in her eyes, it's more like looking at an angler fish.
01:39:53.000 You know, it's got that weird little light on its head.
01:39:55.000 It tracks the prey.
01:39:56.000 You're looking into the eyes of the robot and its head's actually in its chest.
01:39:59.000 Oh, my gosh.
01:40:00.000 And the demon is staring at you and it's dangling this woman's face in front of you to convince you to give up everything for it.
01:40:05.000 And these kind of robots, like, they're not that far away from being something that you can purchase.
01:40:13.000 You can buy them now.
01:40:14.000 Well, I mean, I mean, like the middle class or middle upper class family could purchase one.
01:40:19.000 And the only thing that's preventing it now is the AI, right?
01:40:23.000 So these are all programmed movements.
01:40:25.000 $21,000. That one?
01:40:28.000 Uh, let me, let me pull up the website.
01:40:30.000 Robo store.
01:40:31.000 They just keep getting cheaper.
01:40:33.000 Well, they're going to.
01:40:34.000 The point is, should we buy one?
01:40:35.000 Yeah. I don't know if I want to spend that much money.
01:40:37.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:40:38.000 But that's like, that's like half of a, like half of a salary.
01:40:42.000 Right. Well, hey, to be fair, if this guy can clean the floors.
01:40:47.000 I mean, he could.
01:40:48.000 Do you see the video of the Atlas vacuuming?
01:40:50.000 Yeah. It's stupid.
01:40:52.000 Sorry. I got a Roomba and my cat can ride on it.
01:40:54.000 I don't need to buy a guy to vacuum for me.
01:40:57.000 But take a look at this.
01:40:59.000 Here you go.
01:41:00.000 They already got them for sale.
01:41:02.000 Add to cart.
01:41:03.000 And man, that chat GPT, like you're saying, you onboard that intelligence.
01:41:06.000 Well, they're working on, right now they're working on agentic AI.
01:41:09.000 So they're AI that can do specific things.
01:41:11.000 You don't need a universal or general artificial intelligence.
01:41:16.000 to be like a helper around the house, right?
01:41:19.000 You need one that can do a handful of specific things, can navigate your house, can pick up your laundry, can sweep or mop or whatever, can put your dishes away without smashing them, can carry things for you, but you don't need to have general.
01:41:35.000 No, no, I- $65,000 for the high-end version.
01:41:36.000 Get it.
01:41:40.000 No, I don't know.
01:41:41.000 Maybe. Oh, yeah.
01:41:41.000 You got to like...
01:41:42.000 Will it fold laundry?
01:41:43.000 This is like the one thing that I really wanted to do.
01:41:45.000 That's the thing.
01:41:46.000 Once it can do a narrow...
01:41:50.000 group of specific tasks once then a i can do that and you know just just navigate the house then it's like all right do you want to spend thirty five thousand dollars on this which is the cost of a car but never have to do laundry and and chores again for for parents especially if you have kids at home you're spending two hours plus per day on various household crap right so if this thing can Do the food, the cleaning.
01:42:17.000 You're like buying a tractor if you're a farmer.
01:42:19.000 Here's the video.
01:42:20.000 But yeah, exactly.
01:42:24.000 I can't imagine the thing's going to be anywhere near as good as the Atlas.
01:42:26.000 So why would you spend $40,000 on it?
01:42:28.000 Probably not.
01:42:28.000 What's the difference of the...
01:42:29.000 This is a Chinese company.
01:42:32.000 Okay. Well, we've got to buy American.
01:42:34.000 We can't buy Chinese drawings.
01:42:36.000 Well, I mean, Tesla's making the one right now.
01:42:39.000 Show me a video of this.
01:42:40.000 Optimus. What can this thing do?
01:42:42.000 Like, advertise it to me.
01:42:44.000 It can dance.
01:42:45.000 There's apparently a video of it dancing to...
01:42:47.000 This thing?
01:42:48.000 Hong Kong.
01:42:49.000 Oh, there you go, look it.
01:42:50.000 Oh, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
01:42:52.000 You can remote control this guy?
01:42:53.000 Yeah. Joystick?
01:42:57.000 That's kind of cool.
01:42:58.000 If you mount a webcam on its face and then you are kind of playing a game through it of like clean up my house and you like go and you grab the laundry and you use your controller in your mouse.
01:43:08.000 This is crazy.
01:43:08.000 Put the laundry in the bucket.
01:43:10.000 You're like to shake hands.
01:43:12.000 You need to make a video game that that is the character you're seeing the game, the world, and it's an actual real life cleaning up the room.
01:43:17.000 This thing can't do anything.
01:43:18.000 This robot can't do anything.
01:43:20.000 It literally can't do anything.
01:43:21.000 What I want, you said AGI, you don't need AGI.
01:43:24.000 And these things, I agree.
01:43:24.000 I think initially they just wanted to do menial tasks.
01:43:26.000 But I want my Amazon, Alexa, stop if you're hearing me.
01:43:31.000 But like, I want that thing to answer my questions.
01:43:33.000 I want it to be an AI and it's not yet, which is like really weird.
01:43:35.000 Because I'll talk to it.
01:43:36.000 It will be soon.
01:43:37.000 Okay, there.
01:43:38.000 So you train it.
01:43:40.000 Like, you put it on a record mode and then you do some movement and it copies you.
01:43:44.000 There's no way this is a real.
01:43:47.000 Yes. That was the video that I saw on it.
01:43:50.000 But that's the general principle they're doing with robots now.
01:43:52.000 Like, Baxter is an industrial robot.
01:43:54.000 And you do it once.
01:43:55.000 Baxter watches you and that imitates you.
01:43:57.000 For an industrial setting or for folding laundry, that's all you have to do.
01:44:02.000 Yeah. It just watches you.
01:44:03.000 And again, this stuff is the...
01:44:06.000 It's a couple years away from being able to be, you know, put out for people to actually use and be functional.
01:44:13.000 But once it is, the market is going to explode.
01:44:16.000 Because, again, it's one of those things where, like, if you're, you know, I mean, there's, there are multiple millions.
01:44:24.000 of families in the U.S. that could afford $20,000, which boils, $20,000 to $30,000, which boils down to $750 a month for, you know, 36 months.
01:44:35.000 Yeah. You know, because they'll pay, they'll be, they'll be just like cars.
01:44:38.000 You'll finance it.
01:44:39.000 Banks will love it.
01:44:40.000 So, like, there's a bunch of companies.
01:44:42.000 This one's $100,000.
01:44:44.000 Check out the video of this one going through the forest.
01:44:46.000 It's absolutely insane.
01:44:48.000 They might not have it here.
01:44:49.000 You can probably find out.
01:44:50.000 People, you've got to realize if you're concerned about privacy.
01:44:54.000 Jeez, how scary would it be to be chased by that thing?
01:44:57.000 You don't have a cell phone.
01:44:58.000 Yo, check it out.
01:44:58.000 See this video where it's like spinning around?
01:45:01.000 Now imagine if it had razor blades on the inside of its wheels.
01:45:05.000 And when it goes up on two legs, it starts spinning around, its arms goes out and just starts spinning towards you.
01:45:09.000 Which it could do.
01:45:10.000 Yeah. People put these in their houses.
01:45:13.000 And I love it.
01:45:14.000 I'm fascinated.
01:45:15.000 I love tech.
01:45:16.000 But like, say like 80 million people had one of these in their houses and they were controlled by some central authority.
01:45:21.000 Bro, you're going to see these driving down the street.
01:45:25.000 It's going to pull up to a food lion, a shop and save, an Albertsons, whatever you got by you, and then they're going to walk over, and they're going to put the bag of groceries on top of it, and then it's going to start walking to your house.
01:45:35.000 Technically, it doesn't even have to go to the checkout line.
01:45:36.000 They already have these.
01:45:37.000 They already have those robots, the deliveries.
01:45:39.000 It'll scan and charge each item as it picks it up, so it'll be able to avoid the lines.
01:45:43.000 Amazon will fly you a Coca-Cola if you want me.
01:45:46.000 Have you seen the videos where they have those little googly-eyed boxes that deliver food in San Francisco or whatever?
01:45:51.000 Yeah. And the homeless people attack them.
01:45:53.000 Yeah. There's going to be like a human-eyed robot carrying a bag like this, you know, just like marching all stupid.
01:45:58.000 And then some homeless guy's going to walk up to it and try and shove it.
01:46:01.000 And it's going to go, I am legally authorized to defend myself.
01:46:05.000 And then...
01:46:05.000 And the razor blades pop out of its elbows.
01:46:07.000 And you guys are like, oh, God.
01:46:08.000 Robocob. What is the...
01:46:10.000 This is crazy because what does a robot do?
01:46:12.000 Right now, we're already having this problem where these delivery robots are being vandalized and looted and robbed.
01:46:18.000 Amazon drivers.
01:46:19.000 And you can't do anything about it.
01:46:20.000 Because the person will come up wearing a mask, break it open, steal the food and leave, and then knock it over.
01:46:25.000 And there's a camera of it, but what are you going to do?
01:46:27.000 You can't prove that guy was.
01:46:28.000 Are we then going to live in a society where there are robots all moving around and...
01:46:34.000 How do we track who committed the crime against the robot?
01:46:38.000 And will robots have some degree of possession protections in law?
01:46:42.000 I am authorized to protect the property of.
01:46:45.000 Yeah. I think they need to fly.
01:46:46.000 That's one way.
01:46:47.000 In West Virginia, I believe West Virginia and Texas allow the use of lethal force to defend property.
01:46:52.000 I think Texas specifically.
01:46:54.000 So depending on the property, if there's like a guy walking and he's got a $50,000 gigantic diamond and someone tries to take it, Then what?
01:47:04.000 Does the robot like judo chop?
01:47:06.000 Yeah, my first thought was it would run.
01:47:08.000 That would be, it would be programmed to run if someone attacks it, it runs.
01:47:11.000 But that could damage the goods that it's carrying.
01:47:13.000 So running or flying, flying would help avoid a lot of vandalism.
01:47:19.000 But getting these heavy-ass things up into the air is going to require a lot of propelling.
01:47:21.000 Here's another one.
01:47:22.000 This is the same is $100,000 version of the same thing.
01:47:26.000 In stock, I can click Add Descartes for only $100,000.
01:47:29.000 Also, notice the period and the comma?
01:47:32.000 What is this?
01:47:33.000 Europe. Get out of here.
01:47:34.000 Oh, he's a video.
01:47:35.000 You could potentially have to play this.
01:47:37.000 That's old.
01:47:38.000 That's garbage, man.
01:47:40.000 He's not trying very hard to kick in.
01:47:42.000 Look at, yeah.
01:47:43.000 Oh, that was not bad.
01:47:46.000 I mean, I...
01:47:47.000 The Boston Dynamics one moved compared to this.
01:47:49.000 Of course, but that one, can you buy that one?
01:47:51.000 I don't know.
01:47:52.000 I think Boston Dynamics is doing for military applications.
01:47:54.000 There's probably better money.
01:47:57.000 Probably. What's the really awful music?
01:47:59.000 I don't know.
01:48:00.000 That was cheap.
01:48:01.000 All this thing is doing is walking around.
01:48:02.000 What do I need it for?
01:48:03.000 Why am I spent $100,000 to have a fake guy walk around?
01:48:06.000 Yeah. I want to see some...
01:48:07.000 You know, I've got to be honest, I'm surprised Mr. Beast hasn't bought, like, a hundred of these and then fought them.
01:48:12.000 That'd be cool.
01:48:14.000 Look, Mr. Beast, if you made a video where you bought 100, not that 100 grand ones, the $20,000 ones maybe, and what is...
01:48:20.000 What is...
01:48:20.000 We've bought 100 of them?
01:48:23.000 That's a lot of money.
01:48:24.000 And then donate like a thousand dollars charity for every robot you can defeat.
01:48:27.000 Bro, bro, Mr. Beast.
01:48:28.000 You're the only one who can do this.
01:48:29.000 Okay, buy a hundred of them and then get you and your buddies and get swords, katanas, and then just start mowing them down.
01:48:35.000 I think you get like full auto.
01:48:37.000 And if it's your property and it's on your land where it's legal, you're...
01:48:40.000 Not too quick.
01:48:41.000 You got to fight them.
01:48:41.000 Oh, you want to, like, just get some...
01:48:43.000 Oh, come on, bro.
01:48:44.000 Like... Human.
01:48:45.000 If you're buying these things and just shooting them in your range or something or on set, you might have just thrown them in the garbage.
01:48:52.000 I don't need to move around.
01:48:52.000 It starts running towards you and dodging your bullets, and you're like, oh, my God.
01:48:55.000 I went to...
01:48:57.000 DefCon, the hacker convention, and they have this shooting range in the Mojave Desert they set up every year.
01:49:03.000 And guys come out with belt fed full auto.
01:49:05.000 It's crazy.
01:49:06.000 And I had a drone that was fairly busted but still flew.
01:49:10.000 And I was like, all right, guys, here's your target.
01:49:11.000 Have fun.
01:49:12.000 And they flew it in the air with targets on it.
01:49:14.000 And we're shooting at it.
01:49:14.000 It was amazing.
01:49:15.000 I got to say, guys, but it was below the backstop.
01:49:18.000 Nobody was aiming up.
01:49:19.000 You made a really good question.
01:49:21.000 You had a really good question about what are we going to do when people start vandalizing the robots carrying groceries?
01:49:25.000 Because firstly, we're going to have to legislate.
01:49:27.000 You're not allowed to.
01:49:28.000 It's like someone's car.
01:49:29.000 If you go up to someone's car and you attack it on the street, you're liable for prison.
01:49:34.000 You know, you're going to get arrested on the spot.
01:49:36.000 Same with these robots.
01:49:37.000 And the robots will be able to track it.
01:49:38.000 Yeah, I guess so.
01:49:41.000 Fortunately, the robots won't be afraid, so they're not going to do something stupid.
01:49:45.000 They're going to do what their program to do.
01:49:46.000 $1,000? I don't know what this is.
01:49:49.000 Biped bass.
01:49:50.000 Anyway, we got to go to Super Chats because we really went along.
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01:50:17.000 Nope. I hope to see everybody on X. And it's been a pleasure coming here with you guys.
01:50:22.000 Oh, I don't even know why I did that.
01:50:24.000 I still have 10 minutes.
01:50:24.000 I was just saying, I was like, wait a minute.
01:50:26.000 I was like, I guess he's doing it.
01:50:28.000 Do it again at the end.
01:50:29.000 We'll do it again.
01:50:29.000 We'll set it out again.
01:50:30.000 Okay, we're going to read superchets.
01:50:32.000 I forgot because we went too long that we still had 10 minutes left.
01:50:35.000 Look at me.
01:50:35.000 My brain's fried.
01:50:37.000 All right.
01:50:37.000 I'm not your buddy guy.
01:50:38.000 I'm not worried.
01:50:40.000 I now worry the left has gone too far off the reservation.
01:50:43.000 And whether we like it or not, this will end in either a civil war or purge across the West.
01:50:49.000 Yes, I don't want to be too negative, though, because it does kind of feel like maybe this is the back end of the conflict.
01:50:54.000 The civil rights era was a civil strife period that didn't end in civil war, so I don't know for sure, but maybe.
01:51:00.000 It's scary out there, huh?
01:51:03.000 All right.
01:51:03.000 Minnie Matt.
01:51:04.000 Rumble Rant says, 2016, voted for Trump.
01:51:06.000 2020, voted for Trump.
01:51:09.000 2028, can't wait to vote for Trump.
01:51:10.000 That's funny.
01:51:10.000 We didn't talk about the Bannon story.
01:51:12.000 Steve Bannon said.
01:51:13.000 Yeah, but it's just Bannon saying it.
01:51:15.000 Yeah, it is.
01:51:15.000 It doesn't mean anything.
01:51:16.000 It's a provocateur.
01:51:17.000 Yeah, Trump's going to be so old.
01:51:19.000 Trump's ready, man.
01:51:20.000 He's doing what he's doing.
01:51:23.000 K0776 says, Tim, you are wrong on Harry Sisson.
01:51:25.000 Allegations are fake news.
01:51:27.000 No one believes that kid is straight.
01:51:29.000 Oh, that's funny.
01:51:31.000 That's the question, yeah, is whether they paid the women to make up the allocation.
01:51:35.000 The allegations.
01:51:37.000 I just think he's, what is he, 22?
01:51:39.000 Yeah, I think so.
01:51:40.000 And he's got a bunch of followers, and he's going to try and match it as many women as possible.
01:51:44.000 The problem is, publicly, he gains followers by pretending to be this, like, progressive feminist kind of guy.
01:51:51.000 So, you know, live by the sword.
01:51:54.000 Have fun.
01:51:57.000 What have we here?
01:52:00.000 All right.
01:52:01.000 Super Mercerbrough says, can you make a remake of I just want to live from Baldersgate?
01:52:05.000 I'll Rumble Rant $10 every day if you can.
01:52:07.000 Alfira's song is awesome.
01:52:10.000 I don't know those songs.
01:52:11.000 I don't know.
01:52:11.000 This is Balders Gate 3, I imagine.
01:52:13.000 I guess.
01:52:14.000 Because Balders Gate's the first one.
01:52:16.000 Balder's Gate 3 is one of the best games ever made.
01:52:19.000 All the Baldur's Gates are mind-blowing.
01:52:21.000 The second one, Throne of Ball Expansion, dude, it's just the graphics aren't up.
01:52:24.000 Yeah, but it's real-time, isn't it?
01:52:25.000 No, it's pause.
01:52:26.000 Well, it's real-time, then you pause it.
01:52:27.000 Yeah, it's not term.
01:52:28.000 It's pause it, and then issue orders, and then unpause, and everything happens, and then you pause it, and then reissue stuff.
01:52:35.000 It's like a stop-start fluid.
01:52:36.000 It's cool.
01:52:37.000 It's similar.
01:52:38.000 It's very similar.
01:52:40.000 Okay, the 138 says, Kimmel Fallon, Colbert, Mar are plagiarizing Goebbels.
01:52:45.000 Oof, ooh.
01:52:46.000 Heaven's me.
01:52:48.000 Scrap, Jess, says, great show with Sienowski.
01:52:50.000 I know you don't take pitches, but maybe you'd like to fund someone else's work.
01:52:54.000 Bank job getaway turns monster flick.
01:52:55.000 Interesting. We do a bunch of plans for the community in the Discord.
01:53:00.000 So what we do with Booneys HQ, which is our skate company, is every month we do the Booneys Bounties, where we post this month's trick is, for March, it was a board slide.
01:53:10.000 Submit your videos of the best board slide.
01:53:12.000 There's a list of legal rules.
01:53:14.000 And then our Discord for the Booneyshq.com votes on who they think deserves to win the prize of $200.
01:53:21.000 We wanted to do for the Timcast Discord a cultural prize every month of $10,000.
01:53:25.000 So if you are working on a cultural project, maybe you've got a song and you're like, I need to record the next five or whatever.
01:53:33.000 Maybe you've got a comic book.
01:53:34.000 Maybe you made a sculpture.
01:53:35.000 Who knows?
01:53:36.000 Everybody submits and the Discord community votes and then the winner gets $10,000.
01:53:42.000 The problem is that that amount of money, it becomes extremely difficult legally.
01:53:46.000 And so we're working out the legal process for it right now, but hopefully we can do that.
01:53:49.000 Because that's a cool way to eventually angel invest in a bunch of projects, not literally invested.
01:53:55.000 It was basically like, here's a gift, have fun.
01:53:57.000 But I think it would be considered a sweepstakes or something.
01:54:00.000 Through a charity?
01:54:01.000 Would you set up a charity to issue your funds out?
01:54:04.000 No. Just be a company.
01:54:04.000 I think that would be even more complicated.
01:54:06.000 So because of the Discord server and our members at Timcast.com are voting on who's going to get the money, they ultimately decide it's going to come from Timcast.
01:54:15.000 But what I can say is we are booking about a month and a half away from the first culture war, live, where you as members will sit down in the chair and engage in the debate.
01:54:28.000 So we like, I like how Jubilee does these big public debates, but they're edited, so it's fake.
01:54:33.000 Like when Elie Azar Perez was here, he was mentioning that the pauses in Sam Cedar's answers were longer, and he was having trouble with it, and they edited those out to make it seem like he was answering more quickly.
01:54:42.000 Well, I'm going to tell you, when you come to the culture war event, I'm going to convince you live face to face that you can control the weather.
01:54:50.000 Okay, just make sure it's very nice out.
01:54:51.000 Yeah. Oh, okay.
01:54:53.000 Through the other night, it started hailing.
01:54:54.000 I was outside.
01:54:55.000 I heard it coming in lightning thunder.
01:54:56.000 It started hailing, and I was like, uh-oh, because I was calling the rain.
01:54:59.000 I wanted it, the moisture.
01:55:01.000 It was hitting me, and I was like, this could cause damage.
01:55:03.000 So I focused warmth.
01:55:04.000 So you made the hail comb?
01:55:05.000 And then I got spiked.
01:55:06.000 by this super cold water and I was like it's working and I was getting hit by cold but focusing warmth in and then it just melted away the hail come because you were calling for rain well I went outside after an intense communication and the lightning and thunder was bringing the stuff and were you calling for rain Once I saw it, I was getting excited for it.
01:55:23.000 Okay, no, no, no.
01:55:24.000 And I heard it coming across the forest.
01:55:25.000 Before the rain came, did you will for it to come?
01:55:28.000 No, negative.
01:55:28.000 I stepped out into the lightning.
01:55:30.000 Okay. And then I just went with it.
01:55:32.000 I was excited for it when I saw the lightning.
01:55:33.000 So you encouraged it?
01:55:34.000 Yeah. And then it was hail.
01:55:36.000 And I was like, oops.
01:55:37.000 So that was your fault?
01:55:39.000 Okay, well, I'm going to invoice you for the damage to my car because...
01:55:43.000 You got the damage by the hail?
01:55:44.000 Because of the hail damage.
01:55:45.000 That's so if you did it.
01:55:47.000 I melted it.
01:55:48.000 After about eight seconds, it melted.
01:55:50.000 And that was just a cold rain.
01:55:51.000 No, the hail was not that bad.
01:55:53.000 Dude, it was wild.
01:55:55.000 It was like a sheet of ice just came down for like eight seconds and that it just turned of super cold water.
01:56:00.000 All right.
01:56:01.000 Andre says, re-robots.
01:56:03.000 What happens if he tries using the stairs and trips and kills you on the way down?
01:56:07.000 Bad luck, man.
01:56:08.000 Yeah, I guess it's like if a washing machine fell over on you or something.
01:56:12.000 I don't know.
01:56:12.000 Your fridge tipped over and landed on you.
01:56:14.000 People would be like, accident.
01:56:15.000 What happens if you get into a car accident?
01:56:18.000 One of the big questions in AI that's been around for years is right now you're driving.
01:56:22.000 I think we talked about this in the green room show.
01:56:24.000 Right now you're driving a car.
01:56:25.000 A little kid runs out in the middle of the street.
01:56:27.000 You have a choice.
01:56:28.000 You can swerve to the left and crash and you might die or you can just keep going and the kid gets it.
01:56:32.000 Well, most people would swerve and crash.
01:56:34.000 That's a heat of the moment thing to do.
01:56:36.000 Now let's say there's two kids that run out in the middle of the street.
01:56:39.000 And no matter which direction you go, one of them is getting hit.
01:56:42.000 You choose.
01:56:42.000 Well, for most people, it's like I slammed the brakes on.
01:56:45.000 I tried to dodge them both, but someone got hit.
01:56:48.000 You chose whether to swerve or not.
01:56:49.000 It's a trolley problem, right?
01:56:51.000 The problem with AI cars like Waymo or whatever, is it called Waymo?
01:56:55.000 Is that what's called?
01:56:55.000 Yes. Is that someone has to program how it will respond?
01:56:59.000 Does it protect the passenger slash driver or the pedestrian?
01:57:04.000 In the event, there are two pedestrians.
01:57:07.000 How does it choose between the two which ones to hit?
01:57:09.000 Should it maintain its course or swerve out of the way potentially risking other people's lives?
01:57:13.000 Those choices have to be made in advance.
01:57:16.000 Someone's going to be liable.
01:57:18.000 So the car's going to be driving.
01:57:20.000 Old lady's going to come out.
01:57:21.000 The auto car is going to swerve to the left to Dodger slam head first into another car, killing the other driver.
01:57:28.000 And the family of that driver is going to say, you programmed the car to go off the road.
01:57:33.000 It's your fault.
01:57:34.000 Because that takes a lot of the responsibility off the driver, like, to the point where you might even be, like, not responsible for any accidents that your car gets into while you're in it because you're not driving it.
01:57:44.000 And then all of the responsibility goes on to the company that owns the car and develops the algorithm, which could bankrupt that company really fast.
01:57:51.000 All right.
01:57:51.000 It's a tough one.
01:57:52.000 Donnie Rockett says France can have their statue back.
01:57:54.000 We're building one far greater than you could ever imagine, much more beautiful, much taller, and the most amazing crown you've ever seen, a torch you can see from Canada.
01:58:02.000 Some say the best.
01:58:03.000 I feel like I've seen an AI version of this particular statue they're proposing.
01:58:10.000 You're talking about the Statue of Liberty?
01:58:12.000 They're talking about the Statue of Liberty.
01:58:14.000 They want to send it back.
01:58:15.000 There was some French company that wanted the...
01:58:17.000 It basically looks like Caesar Augustus standing up before the world.
01:58:20.000 And there's a line behind him, right?
01:58:23.000 Yeah. Yeah, so I guess that's supposed to be Trump, yeah.
01:58:26.000 Oh. You ever see that giant?
01:58:28.000 Where was it in Eastern Europe?
01:58:29.000 Where did the gigantic God Emperor Trump in armor with a sword?
01:58:32.000 That was in Italy.
01:58:33.000 What did the applause?
01:58:34.000 I'm pretty sure it was in Italy.
01:58:35.000 Was it afloat?
01:58:36.000 An eagle.
01:58:37.000 It's funny because like sometimes these liberals will make things like that thinking it's mocking Trump.
01:58:41.000 And everyone's like, wow, that's amazing.
01:58:42.000 That's sick.
01:58:43.000 That was the point I made earlier.
01:58:45.000 With these leftist spray painting swastikas on cyber trucks, I was like, if they think these people are Nazis, then wouldn't they just be doing them a favor?
01:58:54.000 And Carl Benchon quoted it, pointing out what my point was, that the implication is the leftists know Tesla owners are not Nazis.
01:59:05.000 They're doing it to vandalize the car because they know the swastika would offend them.
01:59:08.000 But I do think there's a perfect sketch there where a neo-Nazis in his house listening to like Nazi Hitler or whatever, rants or whatever.
01:59:17.000 And then he gets a notification on his phone.
01:59:19.000 His century mode is going off.
01:59:21.000 And he runs outside and he sees leftist spray painting swastikas on his Tesla.
01:59:24.000 And they're like, he's like, what are you doing?
01:59:26.000 They're like, we're putting a swastika on your Tesla.
01:59:28.000 And he goes, oh, well, thank you.
01:59:34.000 Isn't that the implication of what they're doing?
01:59:36.000 Yeah. That is.
01:59:37.000 That is.
01:59:38.000 Like, oh, you like this.
01:59:41.000 Yeah. We're showing you.
01:59:43.000 And he's like, I actually had a stencil.
01:59:44.000 I was going to get to it tomorrow, but I appreciate you doing the work for me.
01:59:48.000 Let's go.
01:59:49.000 Polypurezes. Ben and Jerry's ice cream is full of chemicals.
01:59:52.000 Indeed. Today, Julie had her first Pop-Tart because she's European and they don't have Pop-Tarts in Europe because they're illegal.
02:00:00.000 They were legal in Europe.
02:00:01.000 And then we made Pop-Tart ice cream sandwiches.
02:00:04.000 We took Pop-Tarts and we put ice cream between them.
02:00:07.000 Ice cream.
02:00:08.000 Healthy stuff?
02:00:10.000 The opposite of healthy.
02:00:11.000 Oh. Who was that with your kid?
02:00:13.000 No, here.
02:00:14.000 Oh, I think you said.
02:00:14.000 It's not in the skate park.
02:00:15.000 We got everyone together and we did, Andy had a blueberry one.
02:00:19.000 Blueberry Pop-Tarts.
02:00:21.000 Mike did a fudge.
02:00:22.000 I tried a little bit of the cookies and cream.
02:00:24.000 I had a half of a brown sugar cinnamon.
02:00:26.000 Because I can't believe they were doing full.
02:00:28.000 Do you know like two Pop-Tarts has 80 carbs in it?
02:00:31.000 Okay. And like 400 calories.
02:00:32.000 So I was like, I'll do half.
02:00:34.000 You should do Stroops waffles.
02:00:37.000 You know those?
02:00:37.000 Yeah, but that's like more.
02:00:39.000 Oh, my God.
02:00:40.000 There's two strep waffles with ice cream.
02:00:41.000 With ice cream in the center, yeah.
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