Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - DOGE IS IN THE IRS, Democrats Launch 14 Lawsuits To STOP Trump & Elon w-Nate Cain | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Doge is in the IRS.

00:00:23.000 And the Democrats are freaking out.

00:00:25.000 They're literally like, freaking out that Doge has made their way to the IRS because I have to wonder what's going on inside there.

00:00:31.000 You know, the whole system is broken.

00:00:33.000 There's a viral video going around where it shows, I think it's Bill Clinton and Al Gore talking about how they need to completely restructure, gut all these departments, and this was back in the 90s.

00:00:42.000 Now, we're looking at one of the first efforts ever.

00:00:46.000 To get rid of the waste fraud and the abuse and what's happening?

00:00:49.000 Well, now that Doge has made its way to the IRS, I just love saying that, by the way.

00:00:54.000 Democrats in 14 states have launched a lawsuit, as well as some non-profits, against Elon Musk and Trump to stop them from dealing with waste fraud and abuse?

00:01:05.000 Well, in reality...

00:01:08.000 We know that Elon is going after the bloat.

00:01:10.000 He's approaching this like he would most of his companies.

00:01:13.000 And we elected Donald Trump to do this.

00:01:15.000 Does it mean these guys are perfect guys?

00:01:17.000 No, but we know what their mission is.

00:01:18.000 We know what they're doing.

00:01:19.000 And we're glad to see it.

00:01:21.000 Doge has been putting up all of the programs they've been canceling.

00:01:24.000 They've been giving everybody updates on what they're looking at and what needs to get cut.

00:01:28.000 And the Democrats just keep claiming it's not really happening.

00:01:31.000 In one article, they claimed Elon Musk isn't actually cutting anything.

00:01:35.000 Despite the fact that we actually have a big list of all of the cuts that were made so far.

00:01:39.000 Yeah, they're losing their minds.

00:01:41.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:42.000 We got a lot more.

00:01:43.000 Trump is off.

00:01:43.000 He's proposing some kind of like demilitarization between China and Russia.

00:01:47.000 You got the media freaking out, saying that the end of the world is near.

00:01:51.000 Zelensky and Ukraine is screaming because now apparently Russia is going to invade Poland, which is just utter nonsense.

00:01:57.000 And then we got a couple of stories because, you know.

00:02:01.000 It wouldn't all be worth it unless we got the opportunity to gloat as we watch the screaming left freak out over nothing because they lost the election. 0.56

00:02:11.000 We got our good friend Bill Burr saying that billionaires should be put down?

00:02:16.000 That's crazy.

00:02:17.000 And Kyle Kalinske is outraged that Elon Musk bought the government for $300 million, so he says tax all income.

00:02:26.000 I don't know if he said income, but he says tax, wealth or whatever, over $999 million, 100%.

00:02:32.000 And it's just like, my friend, I'd like to just take this opportunity to tell you, Elon Musk does not have that much cash.

00:02:40.000 That's not how money works.

00:02:41.000 Also, those things from the plane, those were farms.

00:02:44.000 So we'll talk about all of that stuff.

00:02:46.000 I know, I know.

00:02:47.000 We'll get into it.

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00:04:22.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, of course, is Nate Kane.

00:04:25.000 Thank you for having me.

00:04:28.000 Who are you?

00:04:28.000 What do you do?

00:04:29.000 Well, I was the FBI whistleblower back in 2018 that exposed the FBI's cover-up of Hillary Clinton's crimes.

00:04:38.000 They had mounds and mounds of evidence against her, and they covered it up over political reasons. 1.00

00:04:45.000 And they tried to kill you?

00:04:46.000 I don't know if it was them.

00:04:48.000 I mean, it could have been anybody.

00:04:49.000 But this is like deep state, because I know all the people are screaming they in the chat.

00:04:53.000 Yeah, we're talking about nefarious government and untoward activities, but you had some crazy stories.

00:04:57.000 Yeah.

00:04:57.000 And we'll save it for sure, but in the Green Room episode, before we actually came in, you were talking with Chuck.

00:05:02.000 Yeah.

00:05:02.000 And I'm hearing what you're saying, and I'm like, that should be a movie.

00:05:06.000 Like, your tire almost fell off when you were driving.

00:05:09.000 Yeah.

00:05:10.000 So it should be interesting.

00:05:11.000 Well, it should be fun.

00:05:12.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:05:13.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:14.000 We got Raymond hanging out.

00:05:15.000 Oh, what's up, friends?

00:05:16.000 That's Raymond G. I'm happy to be here.

00:05:18.000 I am your local blue-collar department here at Timcast Media Group at Freedom Stand.

00:05:22.000 So I look forward to hearing about your adventures.

00:05:25.000 Mr. Phil, how you doing?

00:05:26.000 Hello, everybody.

00:05:26.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:05:27.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:05:29.000 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:05:31.000 Let's go.

00:05:32.000 Here's the story from the Hill.

00:05:33.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Doge is in the IRS. I love this headline.

00:05:37.000 I love it.

00:05:38.000 Democratic Senator, quote, Doge is now at the IRS. The funny thing is...

00:05:42.000 Democrats have now been put in a position where they're going to have to go to the American people and defend the IRS. Yeah.

00:05:49.000 Well, I mean, that's what they've been doing.

00:05:51.000 They've been put into a position where they actually are defending the bureaucracy.

00:05:56.000 They're defending wasteful spending. 0.81

00:05:58.000 They're defending ridiculous government programs. 0.72

00:06:01.000 Endless wars, all of it. 0.98

00:06:03.000 And it's all because they have, since Donald Trump came onto the political scene, their entire modus operandi has been, Donald Trump is bad.

00:06:12.000 Anything that Donald Trump wants, we're against.

00:06:15.000 I mean, it's become a caricature, but it's actually the way they behave.

00:06:21.000 Yep.

00:06:22.000 No matter what he says, good or bad, everything is beautiful.

00:06:25.000 Hey, Donald Trump just cured cancer.

00:06:27.000 They're going to hate it.

00:06:28.000 Deborah the other day was asking, why is Trump prioritizing these actions against USAID and the government and all this stuff?

00:06:34.000 And she said there's things that are more pressing to the American people than the price of eggs.

00:06:38.000 She's not wrong, but...

00:06:40.000 If Trump does not—the easy answer is if Trump doesn't go up against the bureaucratic machine and deal with the resources they use to elect their shill candidates, then it's never going to stop.

00:06:51.000 But it's also masterfully political in that for the longest time we've known Democrats have just been whatever Trump is, they're the opposite.

00:07:00.000 And that works to a certain degree.

00:07:02.000 If Trump says something like, well, you know, I enjoy pancakes for breakfast, they say, look, everybody knows waffles are better.

00:07:08.000 When those kind of arguments happen, there's an argument to be made. 0.97

00:07:11.000 And it's not, you know, I shouldn't be so silly. 0.88

00:07:13.000 Let's be serious.

00:07:15.000 When an argument happens where Trump says, this war would never have started if I was the president and Ukraine and Russia should stop fighting, the Democrats argue, yes, but the problem with, you know, cessation of hostilities is that Russia is going to move in.

00:07:27.000 There was an argument to be made.

00:07:29.000 Trump has now made a masterful political move, whether intentionally or otherwise.

00:07:33.000 Sometimes I think Trump really does slip on a banana peel and do a backflip.

00:07:37.000 But with Elon Musk going into the IRS, so you start with USAID. I kind of feel like it's brilliant.

00:07:43.000 And I don't think it's an accident.

00:07:45.000 You start with something like USAID. No one really knows what it is.

00:07:48.000 And you creep your way in and start saying, look at all these ridiculous programs.

00:07:53.000 The average American who's actually listening, not the weird NPCs.

00:07:57.000 Are going to see, you know, gender study puppet shows in Peru, whatever it is was going on, and they're going to say, yeah, why are we spending money on that?

00:08:03.000 I don't care how much money it is.

00:08:04.000 Don't spend it.

00:08:06.000 Then, after the story, you know, simmers a little bit, ruminates, you then go into the IRS. This is the Babylon Bee prophecy.

00:08:16.000 Do you guys remember when the Babylon Bee wrote the article that said, ingenious move Trump comes out in support of impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose?

00:08:25.000 The Babylon Bee has gotten it right over and over again, and now where we are, Doge has gone to the IRS. There's not—I'm sorry, I'm going to say it.

00:08:35.000 If a poll ever came out showing favorability for the IRS, I would—it's fake.

00:08:40.000 It's just literally fake.

00:08:41.000 Even if the IRS was a bunch of, like, cherubic small children handing out candy bars, everybody knows when they take money from your paycheck, they're angry about it and so is everybody else.

00:08:55.000 So, to simplify and just wrap this up, Trump has now put Democrats in the position of being angry that Trump would dare go after the people who steal your money.

00:09:05.000 And I'm being a bit facetious with the steal your money, but I know our libertarian friends are screaming taxation is theft.

00:09:10.000 I mean, look, I've been pretty clear about my opinion that taxation is theft, considering the fact that the only reason the dollar has value nowadays is the demand that taxation is, right?

00:09:22.000 So the reason that fiat currencies have a value is because the...

00:09:28.000 Issuing government requires that you pay taxes in that currency.

00:09:32.000 So there's a demand for dollars, so you can pay your taxes.

00:09:36.000 And what they do with those dollars is they just destroy them.

00:09:40.000 Your dollars don't go to pay for anything.

00:09:42.000 When they want to fund something, they just print the money for it.

00:09:45.000 The taxation is used in conjunction with interest rates in order to mediate inflation.

00:09:52.000 That's it.

00:09:53.000 They're literally taking your money so that way there is less money in circulation.

00:09:58.000 It is directly theft.

00:10:02.000 That's literally correct, and it gets way more complicated.

00:10:06.000 So there's a bunch of different facets of this.

00:10:09.000 The truth is, if we get into how it actually functions, they spent your money before they took it, and then take it from you and burn it.

00:10:18.000 So when they issue debt, for instance, when they print money, They know, hey, it's going to get hot.

00:10:25.000 The money supply is expanding.

00:10:26.000 It's fractional reserve or it's quantitative easing.

00:10:28.000 The money supply is expanding too rapidly.

00:10:30.000 The government is going to use that to pay down its debt, to fund programs, war, whatever it might be.

00:10:35.000 Then, with too much money in circulation, they take from you and they destroy those dollars.

00:10:40.000 Or they try to remove them from circulation.

00:10:42.000 This is modern monetary theory.

00:10:45.000 And the craziest thing about it is...

00:10:49.000 The ways in which government produces value and money is insane.

00:10:53.000 The national debt is largely owed to the American people.

00:10:58.000 I'll keep it real simple.

00:10:59.000 I'll try to keep it simple here.

00:11:00.000 When the debt ceiling gets raised, what they're basically saying is, hey, we're going to fund, air quotes, a new bridge.

00:11:09.000 What does that mean to fund it?

00:11:11.000 It means they're going to go to a contractor and they're going to say, how much to build the bridge?

00:11:14.000 They say $50 million.

00:11:15.000 They say, okay, we promise we'll pay you.

00:11:18.000 That's funding the bridge. 0.82

00:11:20.000 The debt then goes up by $50 million plus interest, and then they basically just pay the interest while not paying the debt.

00:11:26.000 And you combine that with USAID and all of the fraudulent waste and abuse, it is the US government hemorrhaging money.

00:11:36.000 And another way to put it would be the Titanic literally sinking and taking on water.

00:11:41.000 Well, this USAID thing, one of the things that's kind of interesting is I've noticed there's been a lot of videos that people have been posting.

00:11:48.000 Talking about this.

00:11:49.000 Talking about all the wasteful spending of their own tax.

00:11:52.000 They feel this as a personal thing.

00:11:54.000 Yeah.

00:11:54.000 And you see people talking about it over and over again.

00:11:56.000 So this is galvanizing people who probably didn't vote for Trump or people who maybe didn't vote for him in the first election.

00:12:04.000 It's galvanizing those voters to him now because you're right.

00:12:07.000 It has put these Democrats in a position of having to defend something that's indefensible.

00:12:12.000 Yeah.

00:12:12.000 The IRS collected more than $4.9 trillion in gross revenue in the fiscal year of 2022. That is a substantial amount of money for them to be taken from the American people with our taxes, and they're just giving it to the government to let them spend $9.4 or $4.9 trillion.

00:12:27.000 Especially when you've got people down in South Carolina that are still homeless.

00:12:32.000 Yes.

00:12:32.000 I don't know how Democrats are going to win in the midterms on the, we defend the IRS platform.

00:12:39.000 It's incredible that they're going with that.

00:12:44.000 That line.

00:12:45.000 They are doing their best, if you can be fair, they are doing their best to stray away from that.

00:12:52.000 They're trying to say that Musk is stealing from the people so that way he can give to his billionaire buddies, which is... 0.96

00:13:02.000 On its face, ridiculous. 0.86

00:13:04.000 Like, Musk himself. 0.97

00:13:05.000 He's got more money than he needs.

00:13:06.000 I mean, yes, and also, like, Musk isn't taking the money.

00:13:10.000 That's right.

00:13:11.000 And putting it in his own bank account.

00:13:13.000 He's just auditing existing programs.

00:13:17.000 Let me read this quote.

00:13:18.000 So basically, this is Ron Wyden.

00:13:20.000 If you're not familiar with him, he's the guy who looked shocked in that fake photo I made.

00:13:24.000 Okay, there's a picture of AOC about to hug somebody and her arm is out.

00:13:28.000 And I cropped it, so you just see her arm out, and I said, AOC, no! 0.99

00:13:32.000 And Ron Wyden is standing behind her, like, making a shocked face.

00:13:35.000 She's doing the, my heart goes out to you.

00:13:37.000 Yeah, it really does look like it.

00:13:38.000 But she was just hugging somebody.

00:13:39.000 I'm not, it was a joke.

00:13:41.000 I know some people don't, you know, a lot of Democrats thought it was real.

00:13:44.000 But Ron Wyden said, he's sounding the alarm, quote, my office is hearing that Doge is now at the IRS. That means Musk's henchmen are in a position to dig through a trove of data about every taxpayer in America.

00:13:56.000 And if your refund is delayed, they could very well be the reason. 0.98

00:14:01.000 Holy crap.

00:14:03.000 Can I just... 0.90

00:14:04.000 Yeah.

00:14:04.000 My friends, each and every one of you listening at home, please heed these words.

00:14:08.000 The refund the government has that belongs to you was taken from you wrongly.

00:14:13.000 That's why it's a refund.

00:14:15.000 It means you gave them more than you needed to.

00:14:18.000 So when he's saying, well, now it's going to be delayed, it's Elon's fault.

00:14:21.000 No!

00:14:22.000 The government is taking more of your money than they're legally allowed to do, and then every year they give it back, and people act happy about it.

00:14:28.000 That is an interest-free loan that you are giving to the government.

00:14:32.000 It is better to hold on to that money yourself, pay the amount that you're supposed to, hold on to that money yourself, and put it into a...

00:14:38.000 Not easy to do.

00:14:39.000 Not easy to do, man.

00:14:40.000 Fair enough.

00:14:40.000 I remember back in, like, 2014 or whatever, I was paying my taxes.

00:14:44.000 It was 2015, actually.

00:14:45.000 I was paying my 2015 taxes.

00:14:48.000 And I did everything I was told to do by my accountant.

00:14:51.000 And this is back when I just had a regular salary and was an employee at a company.

00:14:57.000 And at the end of the year, they're like, you owe $7,000.

00:15:00.000 Yeah.

00:15:01.000 I was like, oh, what?

00:15:04.000 That's like all of my savings.

00:15:05.000 And they were like, well, you filed your forms wrong or something.

00:15:09.000 And I was like, oh, bro.

00:15:11.000 So for the average person...

00:15:14.000 If you make a mistake and you end up owing at the end of the year, that can put you in the poorhouse.

00:15:21.000 So this country functions by taking more of your money, money you need, especially to buy eggs, and at the end of the year you cross your fingers and hope you gave the government enough and maybe they'll be nice enough to give you some back.

00:15:33.000 You know, there's something that Wyden is hinting out here that I think is important to note.

00:15:37.000 He's saying that this may slow down you getting your check, and I'm already seeing this where you've got federal employees that basically are kind of on a working strike.

00:15:48.000 They're slowing down their work.

00:15:50.000 They're intentionally doing things that they shouldn't be doing or not doing things that they should be doing.

00:15:55.000 There was some whistleblowers at the FBI recently just came out talking about how there was reprisal that was going on where they were basically denying people their...

00:16:06.000 Clearances and things like that, or having their clearances drop.

00:16:10.000 And I was talking to a field security officer who was telling me, or a facility security officer that was telling me that that's exactly what they've seen going on.

00:16:20.000 They've never seen this in their 20 years career, and now they're seeing all of a sudden all these problems with people's clearances.

00:16:27.000 I think that this is going to be their tactic against Trump.

00:16:30.000 They're going to try to slow down the federal government every which way they can to make it impossible for them.

00:16:35.000 I'm just having a good time with the IRS stuff, guys.

00:16:39.000 I hope, you know, look, we've seen nothing just yet, but there's a lot of speculation that the waste, fraud, and abuse we find at the IRS is going to result in, let's just say, when they start cutting back these things, you should get more money.

00:16:53.000 I'm hoping that they go into the IRS and they uncover...

00:16:57.000 Well, actually, I'll put it this way.

00:16:58.000 I hope they go in and they find everything's perfect.

00:17:00.000 And they're being honest and, you know, the IRS is treating everybody well.

00:17:04.000 But I guarantee you it's not.

00:17:07.000 And I'm going to lay out this scenario for you guys.

00:17:09.000 We talked about it when Biden and the Democrats were adding, what, 87,000 new IRS agents.

00:17:14.000 They claimed we're only raising taxes on people who make $400,000 a year or more.

00:17:20.000 What ended up happening?

00:17:21.000 Yo, I called it.

00:17:23.000 What's going to happen when they add those 87,000 agents is that you're going to get a bill in the mail.

00:17:27.000 They started scrutinizing all transactions over $600, claiming we're only raising taxes on wealthy people, but they were scrutinizing transactions on poor people.

00:17:37.000 So here's how it works for the IRS. They want to increase their revenue and make more money.

00:17:42.000 They're going to send you a letter in the mail.

00:17:44.000 One day, you're going to open up your mail.

00:17:46.000 It's going to say you owe $273.91.

00:17:49.000 Official letter from the IRS. And you're going to say...

00:17:52.000 Well, I have no means of fighting that.

00:17:53.000 I don't know if it's right.

00:17:54.000 I don't know if it's wrong.

00:17:55.000 I had a couple friends tell me last year when all this was going on, it happened to them.

00:18:01.000 They complained.

00:18:02.000 They were not well off.

00:18:04.000 One friend of mine ended up on like a thousand something.

00:18:07.000 And so he was like, yo, that's an insane amount of money.

00:18:09.000 Get a letter from the IRS saying you owe this money.

00:18:11.000 And so he fought it and it turned out the IRS was wrong.

00:18:14.000 But what happens when they send out those bills for $25, $50, $100, and some working class Joe is like, I can't afford to hire a lawyer or dispute this. 0.92

00:18:23.000 This is the issue with getting a speeding ticket, right?

00:18:26.000 A lot of people get tickets every day, maybe they weren't speeding, and they say, go tell it to a judge.

00:18:30.000 Like, yo, I can't take a day off work to go to court because you're trying to take $100 from me.

00:18:35.000 It's a lose-lose no matter what.

00:18:37.000 This is what the IRS is doing, and I'm willing to bet.

00:18:41.000 That when Elon Musk's Doge team goes in there, they're going to find that the IRS... Here's what I think it'll be.

00:18:47.000 Not that they're intentionally overcharging Americans and sending out all of these bills, but that their review process to determine whether or not an American owes money is so scrambled and lax.

00:18:59.000 I'm willing to bet the IRS approves all monetary demands.

00:19:04.000 Some low-level IRS agent says, I looked at some guy's PayPal.

00:19:07.000 He had 700 bucks in it.

00:19:09.000 I think he owes us 50 bucks and his boss goes, rubber stamp out the door.

00:19:12.000 That guy better pay us or else.

00:19:14.000 I bet that's what he finds.

00:19:16.000 And you also got to think about whether they're doing evil or not, the people who are asking out for the bills, the penalties.

00:19:23.000 They're including penalties and interest accrued.

00:19:25.000 So no matter what you have, they're going to add more money to that.

00:19:28.000 If you're a day late, 30 days late, 40 days late, they're just going to keep on adding and adding as much as they can.

00:19:33.000 Phil said it's an interest-free loan you're giving to the government.

00:19:36.000 But when you underpay, they demand an interest back.

00:19:39.000 Absolutely.

00:19:39.000 You know, I just...

00:19:42.000 It's incredibly unfair.

00:19:44.000 I like the stories about the samurai and the Bushido.

00:19:48.000 You know, honor and integrity.

00:19:50.000 The warriors that refuse to fight unfair.

00:19:54.000 Death before dishonor.

00:19:55.000 All that stuff.

00:19:56.000 America has become so dishonorable.

00:19:58.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:19:59.000 The functions of government.

00:20:01.000 The American government.

00:20:02.000 Yep.

00:20:03.000 It's...

00:20:04.000 It's completely unfair.

00:20:06.000 And the idea that these are supposed to be agencies that exist for the betterment of the American people, and yet they intentionally make your life more difficult.

00:20:21.000 The IRS knows how much you owe.

00:20:23.000 They know exactly how much you owe.

00:20:24.000 And yet you have to go and pay a third party to figure it out.

00:20:30.000 Why can't they just say, hey, this is how much you owe?

00:20:35.000 Not why can't they.

00:20:36.000 Why won't they?

00:20:37.000 Why is it that it's incumbent on the American people, the individuals, to go and find a third party and pay that third party to do all the paperwork when the federal government knows?

00:20:50.000 It's obvious.

00:20:50.000 It's because some people don't file their income taxes properly and they overpay.

00:20:54.000 Yeah.

00:20:55.000 The fact that there are services advertising, and it's funny because we're getting close to tax season too, services saying, we'll get you the maximum refund.

00:21:02.000 Right.

00:21:03.000 The U.S. government knows that tons of people are eligible for more money they overpaid.

00:21:08.000 And if they make a mistake, here's what's funny.

00:21:10.000 If you make a mistake and overpay, they have smiles on their faces.

00:21:14.000 If you make a mistake and underpay, you're getting a fine and a penalty.

00:21:17.000 They have a literal police force of their own.

00:21:21.000 With fully automatic weapons, which you're not allowed to own.

00:21:25.000 Remember when the IRS ordered millions of rounds of pallets?

00:21:29.000 There was a literal shortage on green tip 556, which is what's used in your average AR-15, M16-style rifle, because the federal government ordered pallets and pallets and pallets for all of the policing agencies.

00:21:47.000 And keep in mind, the FDA has a...

00:21:55.000 Get it, Phil!

00:21:57.000 These agencies do not exist to help the American people at all.

00:22:05.000 And when Elon said we should refund $740 million from the consumer protection, whatever, all the Democrats were like, oh no, now the banks are going to rip us all off.

00:22:15.000 It's like, these systems of governance.

00:22:17.000 Have not been helping Americans. 0.65

00:22:19.000 And the instances where they sometimes do, it's only to put on the facade that they're actually functioning for helping Americans.

00:22:25.000 It's become bloat and corruption.

00:22:27.000 I do want to jump to this next story.

00:22:28.000 Before I do, I'm going to shout it to Lurch in the Super Chat, who said HR25 introduced repeals the income tax in the IRS. This story was January 29th.

00:22:36.000 Resolution to abolish federal income taxes introduced in House Committee.

00:22:41.000 You know they're not going to do anything with it.

00:22:43.000 But it is fun.

00:22:46.000 That they're trying, this is Buddy Carter from Georgia, introduced H.R. 25 earlier this month to the White House Ways and Means Committee, to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national sales tax to be administered primarily by the states.

00:23:03.000 But let's entertain this.

00:23:05.000 I completely agree with abolishing the income tax.

00:23:10.000 You go back in time, and it was supposed to be only on the ultra-wealthy, and only like 1%.

00:23:16.000 And then if you look right after World War II is when it jumps up and basically everybody now has to do the taxes, file, get your government number and all that stuff.

00:23:24.000 I'm a fan of tariffs to fund the government, as Trump has pointed out, and a sales tax.

00:23:32.000 I don't think a tariff-only system is completely feasible because I don't know that we generate enough.

00:23:37.000 The idea being that foreign countries would need us as customers and thus those taxes would help fund the government.

00:23:44.000 Maybe.

00:23:44.000 Trump makes the point that we were very wealthy when we were operating this way.

00:23:48.000 But I think a national sales tax.

00:23:50.000 You get your money when it's paid to you.

00:23:52.000 You put it in your pocket.

00:23:52.000 When you want to buy something, that's your choice.

00:23:56.000 That's where we get the taxes from. 0.90

00:23:57.000 Some kind of consumption tax, I think, isn't a bad idea.

00:23:59.000 Because then you can save?

00:24:00.000 That's fair.

00:24:01.000 Yeah, then you don't get penalized for saving money.

00:24:04.000 You don't get penalized.

00:24:05.000 Or investing.

00:24:06.000 Exactly, for investing.

00:24:07.000 And that right there, that's a great point, Tim.

00:24:10.000 If you are not penalized for investing, that's actually helping the economy in multiple ways because it's investing in businesses in the United States.

00:24:19.000 But Phil, how will the government front money for war, military industrial complex, and other ridiculous expenditures like gender studies in Pakistan if they can't just spend the money and then take it from you later?

00:24:32.000 Well, I mean...

00:24:35.000 So, hypothetically, having a consumption tax as opposed to an income tax doesn't change the way that money gets into the system, or doesn't necessitate a change in the way that money gets into the system.

00:24:48.000 There could still be a Federal Reserve.

00:24:50.000 I'm not saying that I endorse this because I would love to see an audit of the Fed, I would love to see actual money that's backed up by something other than nuclear weapons and by a tax scheme, but that does not, having a consumption tax does not It doesn't automatically mean that there isn't a central bank, doesn't automatically mean that there isn't still a, you know, the Federal Reserve that prints money when the Congress writes a bill.

00:25:15.000 All of that stuff could, in theory, still be in place, but instead of having your income taxed, you have a national consumption tax that maybe it would adjust depending, like, the way that the interest rate adjusts.

00:25:32.000 The cost of borrowing money, maybe the federal consumption tax adjusts depending on the needs of the government to manage inflation.

00:25:42.000 Should it be federal or should we give it to the state?

00:25:44.000 No, it has to be federal because the states don't issue the currency.

00:25:47.000 And we like our armed forces.

00:25:50.000 We want to make sure that these guys get paid.

00:25:52.000 Have you guys ever argued economics with a, let's just call it a more prominent leftist?

00:25:59.000 No, no.

00:26:00.000 That sounds awful.

00:26:02.000 Oh, it is.

00:26:02.000 It is.

00:26:03.000 But, you know, see, here's the thing.

00:26:04.000 If you're talking to someone who's not very learned on the issue, like, say, Kyle Kalinske, who thinks Elon Musk has cash and doesn't know what a farm looks like.

00:26:11.000 I, you know, I hate to be mean to the guy, but he's really gone off his rocker as of late.

00:26:15.000 But yes, he used to be so nice.

00:26:16.000 But I've actually spoken with the more learned leftist individuals who I would put them in the category of willfully lying.

00:26:23.000 You've got the people who just don't know what they're talking about.

00:26:25.000 Then you have people who are willfully lying.

00:26:26.000 And the argument made by many of these individuals, one example would be AOC's policy proposals as it pertains to universal health care deficit spend.

00:26:36.000 Yeah.

00:26:37.000 The way she's described it and lightly.

00:26:41.000 But when you combine this with the more prominent thinkers on the progressive leftist side, the argument they make is that the U.S. economy is so massive that it's not negatively impacted.

00:26:51.000 By mass spending and hyperinflation the way it used to be.

00:26:55.000 So when you look at smaller nations with limited resources compared to the United States, hyperinflation is rapid.

00:27:02.000 There's only a handful of factories, only a handful of food suppliers, only a handful of farmers.

00:27:07.000 The United States is ridiculously, it's effectively 50 countries relative to how history used to be, say in like Europe.

00:27:13.000 Their argument is, if the U.S. government were to spend, were to manifest right now $1 trillion, And put that in a coffer to pay doctors to perform healthcare services on individuals.

00:27:26.000 The money would enter the system in such a way that it would not, hyperinflation would not happen.

00:27:33.000 Most people would not realize, and people consume so rapidly, savings are immaterial to the argument.

00:27:39.000 They're literally calling for deficit spending and hyperinflation because so long as there is a monopoly on violence, it won't matter anyway.

00:27:50.000 Yeah, I mean, and these people, if you're dealing with leftists, they don't believe in a capitalist system anyways.

00:27:56.000 So anything that might bring about a more consolidation of power in the federal government and less power to private industry is a good thing for them.

00:28:08.000 So if they can get the entire healthcare, all healthcare providers to be funded by the government.

00:28:16.000 Then that's a win to them because then they get the, not only do they have the ability to say, oh, look, we give healthcare for free, we've got Medicare for all, but they also have the ability to ration healthcare and decide who doesn't get it.

00:28:29.000 That's right.

00:28:29.000 Which is whether or not they want to admit it, that's exactly what they want.

00:28:34.000 And COVID is evidence that.

00:28:37.000 These same people were saying, oh, if you don't listen and do this, then you don't get, you don't, if you don't get the vaccination, then.

00:28:45.000 We're not going to take care of you when you get sick.

00:28:47.000 If you don't obey, then we're not going to...

00:28:51.000 You're not going to be able to access...

00:28:52.000 You wouldn't even have a job in some cases.

00:28:53.000 Well, it was pretty dark when Jimmy Kimmel said that these people should be denied healthcare services.

00:29:00.000 COVID was...

00:29:02.000 You had the former governor of California saying, screw your freedom.

00:29:07.000 Yeah.

00:29:07.000 COVID was a gift to the American people because it really pulled back the – it opened everyone's eyes to what the government does.

00:29:17.000 It was a trial balloon.

00:29:18.000 So I think the policies that they wanted to enact, I think they were testing the American people's tolerance for these things.

00:29:25.000 If you look at the ideas – I'm pretty sure AOC has proposed publicly deficit spending for healthcare.

00:29:30.000 What that basically means is you can't save money.

00:29:34.000 They want you to live in a world of paycheck to paycheck, direct to consumer.

00:29:38.000 Look, it's simple.

00:29:39.000 They want you to line up with your ledger because you get one carton of eggs per week.

00:29:44.000 This all leads in one direction to what we call a command economy, where there is a centralized authority that determines how and when you can buy things and how you buy it.

00:29:57.000 Now, obviously, the ledger system, look at your little book.

00:30:00.000 You show up and then they stamp it and say, no more eggs for you for the week.

00:30:03.000 Well, that didn't work.

00:30:04.000 They have other means of doing it.

00:30:06.000 You can look at how the Chinese Communist Party does it.

00:30:09.000 You can have a trade medium, a currency, and allow people to buy things, but you dramatically restrict how the money is developed.

00:30:15.000 Take a look at what we're seeing now.

00:30:16.000 I've been going off on West Virginia.

00:30:18.000 They call these the Uber laws.

00:30:21.000 34 states have what they call Uber laws, where you cannot be an independent contractor anymore.

00:30:28.000 Used to be in this country.

00:30:29.000 That if you were a person, just a person, you could walk up to another person and say, got any work I can do?

00:30:35.000 Famous old movies where the young man is traveling, he's got the stick with the napkin, and he comes up to a farm and says, you know, I'm just traveling on my way to West, but I need some work.

00:30:44.000 And the guy says, I got some work you can do.

00:30:46.000 I can pay you only a little bit.

00:30:47.000 And he says, works for me.

00:30:49.000 Can't do it anymore.

00:30:50.000 When the Uber laws came out, they're going to have you living in the pot and eating the bugs. 0.98

00:30:54.000 34 states basically say that we don't know how to determine whether or not you're...

00:30:58.000 Actually an independent contractor, so we're basically making it extremely difficult, effectively illegal.

00:31:02.000 What happens?

00:31:04.000 The easy way to understand it, in California, let's say that you are an individual who writes articles.

00:31:11.000 You have three clients.

00:31:12.000 You write news, sports, and video games.

00:31:15.000 But there's three different news outlets that buy from you.

00:31:18.000 So based on the law that California passed, the moment you write 30, I think it's 30 articles for one company, they must hire you as an employee.

00:31:26.000 But guess what?

00:31:27.000 That means you can't work with the other companies.

00:31:28.000 What happens?

00:31:29.000 They say, look, we only have you doing three articles per week.

00:31:32.000 We're not going to hire you. 0.96

00:31:33.000 Dropped.

00:31:34.000 No more client.

00:31:34.000 The next company says the same thing.

00:31:36.000 Dropped.

00:31:36.000 They all lost their job.

00:31:38.000 Thousands of writers in California lost their jobs.

00:31:40.000 West Virginia did the exact same thing because they don't want to be bothered to deal with tax enforcement.

00:31:47.000 They want to put it on you, so they effectively make it illegal for an individual to work.

00:31:52.000 Now, they don't claim that's the case.

00:31:54.000 They say, no, no, of course you can be an independent contractor.

00:31:57.000 And then the moment you hire one, you get an audit, you get scrutinized, and they tell you you can't do it.

00:32:02.000 It's illegal.

00:32:03.000 This is how they're going to get you to live in the pot and eat the bugs. 0.99

00:32:05.000 You're not going to be able to work.

00:32:07.000 You're going to have to go work for the corporation.

00:32:10.000 When COVID happened, mom and pop shops were shut down.

00:32:13.000 But Walmart and Amazon, Target, they were allowed to operate.

00:32:16.000 Need a job?

00:32:17.000 Those are the only places that are offering.

00:32:18.000 Good luck.

00:32:19.000 You're going to have to go work for them.

00:32:21.000 They're only going to pay you a set amount.

00:32:23.000 Look at what the left was proposing with everything they had.

00:32:26.000 Remember the CEO of Reddit when she said we will no longer allow people to negotiate salaries?

00:32:32.000 Because of the pay disparity between men and women, men are more likely to negotiate, women aren't. 0.99

00:32:37.000 We're going to make it so that no matter what, you can't negotiate.

00:32:40.000 If you want to work here, it's going to be this flat salary, thank you, and have a nice day.

00:32:43.000 This is the world they want to build.

00:32:45.000 The only way to get a job is the approved corporation the government allows to be open.

00:32:48.000 They have to pay you $500 a week.

00:32:51.000 Sorry, we're not allowed to pay you more.

00:32:52.000 You can't negotiate.

00:32:53.000 Everyone gets paid a flat amount, and then we deficit spend, but don't worry, because the government will capture and control the currency.

00:33:00.000 You will never have a savings.

00:33:02.000 You will only have just enough to get by.

00:33:05.000 I mean, the idea that the government does not, or there are not significant forces in the government.

00:33:13.000 That would like nothing better than to have absolute control over every aspect of your life.

00:33:19.000 If you think that's not true, then I don't think that I can actually relate to you in any way.

00:33:26.000 Then I've got a bridge to set.

00:33:27.000 Wasn't there a group of people that, you know, had a revolution over taxes about 200 years ago?

00:33:33.000 Three percent.

00:33:34.000 Well, to be fair, taxes was just one component of the grievances.

00:33:39.000 You're right.

00:33:40.000 There were very many.

00:33:42.000 Such as effectively waging war, capturing citizens sleeping in their homes, etc.

00:33:48.000 Let's jump to this next story from ABC News.

00:33:50.000 The Democrats outraged that Elon Musk dare challenge the IRS. 14 states sued Doge, blasting Musk's unprecedented power as unconstitutional.

00:34:02.000 The suit says Musk's role violates the appointments clause of the Constitution.

00:34:06.000 It doesn't.

00:34:07.000 We've been over this.

00:34:08.000 You know, Ian, a regular on this show.

00:34:11.000 Trump either rolls ones or twenties as it goes.

00:34:14.000 And for those who don't know what that means, it means when you roll a one in Dungeons and Dragons, it's critical failure.

00:34:18.000 When you roll a twenty, it's critical success.

00:34:20.000 For all of his faults, Ian was terrified, saying Elon Musk is a de facto administrator who's never confirmed, actually did the research, came back and said, yo, I was wrong.

00:34:31.000 Trump is allowed to hire Elon Musk for 130 days as a special government employee.

00:34:35.000 He can keep working at his companies.

00:34:37.000 This has actually been happening since the 60s.

00:34:39.000 It is actually a routine.

00:34:41.000 And so Ian, the guy who wants to pardon Hillary Clinton, said, no, actually, Elon's fine here.

00:34:47.000 Well, Democrats aren't having it. 0.96

00:34:48.000 They say, led by the state of New Mexico, the lawsuit argues, in often dramatic terms, that the appointments clause of the Constitution calls for someone with such significant and expansive authority as Musk to be formally nominated by the president and confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

00:35:01.000 There is no greater threat to democracy than the accumulation of state power in the hands of a single unelected individual.

00:35:06.000 The suit was filed by New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torres and officials from Arizona, Michigan, Maryland, Minnesota, California, Nevada, Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii.

00:35:15.000 Although our constitutional system was designed to prevent the abuses of an 18th century monarch, the instruments of unchecked power are no less dangerous in the hands of a 21st century tech baron.

00:35:24.000 Two of the 14 states are led by Republican governors.

00:35:26.000 Oh, really?

00:35:27.000 Evans, Republican ones.

00:35:29.000 Sure, not that it means much. 0.98

00:35:31.000 This is completely ridiculous.

00:35:34.000 Elon Musk isn't actually doing anything.

00:35:38.000 I'm sorry, guys.

00:35:39.000 I gotta tell you, as much as we want to praise Elon and talk about how we love Doge, the reality is all Elon is doing is pointing the finger and saying, oh, hey, Trump, look at that.

00:35:49.000 And then Trump goes, gone.

00:35:50.000 Hey, Trump, take a look at that one.

00:35:52.000 Trump goes, gone.

00:35:53.000 Trump is the one making all the decisions.

00:35:55.000 Elon is effectively just consulting, and the Doge employees are government employees who are entitled to do what they're doing.

00:36:01.000 Yep.

00:36:02.000 The left has been trying their best to say, oh, hey...

00:36:09.000 There is a co-president, Elon Musk, is actually the guy running the show.

00:36:14.000 And the reason they're doing that is because they're trying to get Donald Trump to get upset in the hopes that Donald Trump would say, well, I need to get rid of Elon Musk because he's blah, blah, blah.

00:36:23.000 Donald Trump is not the same guy that he was from 2017 to 2020. He was surprised that he won in 2016-17.

00:36:35.000 He didn't expect to.

00:36:37.000 He thought that he wasn't going to win.

00:36:38.000 Afterwards, he had this whole...

00:36:40.000 I mean, I know the guy's supremely confident and he's used to winning.

00:36:46.000 I really do think that the four years when he was...

00:36:50.000 Out of the office of the presidency, there was a lot of soul-searching that Donald Trump went through.

00:36:55.000 Any human being would go through that.

00:36:57.000 And he has come back.

00:36:59.000 Now he is way more confident because he did have that absolute, undeniable victory.

00:37:05.000 He saw the shift in the country.

00:37:07.000 He knows that he won.

00:37:10.000 And so they're not going to be able to get...

00:37:11.000 I don't believe that they're going to be able to get under his skin the way that they're trying.

00:37:15.000 So I think it's a waste of time.

00:37:16.000 The Incredible Hulk.

00:37:17.000 Trump in his first term was, please don't make me angry.

00:37:21.000 You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

00:37:23.000 And then Biden's term was them making him very angry, trying to put him in prison.

00:37:27.000 And now he's just...

00:37:29.000 He's just smashing through everything.

00:37:31.000 I love it, thankfully.

00:37:32.000 He doesn't have to get elected again.

00:37:34.000 The Democrats don't understand that us as a right are not them.

00:37:37.000 We are not one monolith.

00:37:39.000 We can get angry and yell at each other.

00:37:41.000 We can have our tiffs and bouts.

00:37:43.000 But if...

00:37:45.000 We're not like lemmings going off a cliff.

00:37:48.000 We're able to argue with each other and work things out, and then in the end we can work, and then in the end we can come to a grand agreement on the great ideas that we're going to come through.

00:37:57.000 I'm looking forward to the IRS stuff, really.

00:37:59.000 I mean, USAID is one thing.

00:38:02.000 It's a slush fund for NGOs.

00:38:04.000 It's small potatoes, right?

00:38:05.000 I mean, it is.

00:38:06.000 I mean, what is their budget?

00:38:08.000 Like $60 billion?

00:38:09.000 Yeah.

00:38:10.000 Is it $60 billion?

00:38:10.000 Yeah, $60 billion.

00:38:11.000 How much?

00:38:11.000 And so in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't – I think we're looking at like a yearly budget of $7 trillion.

00:38:17.000 So there's a lot to go through.

00:38:18.000 It's good they're doing it.

00:38:19.000 Yes.

00:38:20.000 The IRS is where it gets interesting.

00:38:21.000 This is where they're taking money from the American people, and this is the other side of that coin.

00:38:27.000 We can mock and we can joke about how USAID is funding garbage and shut it down to save money, but then we've got to take a look at – How, first of all, the deficit spending, increasing the debt, accruing debt, the creation of money, and how they're taking money from the American people.

00:38:43.000 You get that big picture.

00:38:45.000 Here's how they're taking your money, and here's how they're doing it wrongly, which I assume they are, and here's how they're wasting your money.

00:38:51.000 Let people see the actual numbers.

00:38:54.000 Numbers are going to flip their minds.

00:38:56.000 It's like the whole, he's for you and she's for they, them.

00:38:59.000 Normans aren't going to like the IRS taking their, you know.

00:39:03.000 The midterms are going to be crazy.

00:39:04.000 The midterms are going to be like, Donald Trump audited the IRS and found out they were stealing your money.

00:39:11.000 Democrats want to protect the IRS. Yep. 0.94

00:39:14.000 That's it?

00:39:15.000 There it is.

00:39:17.000 That is it right there.

00:39:18.000 Dude, imagine the kind of person that would defend the IRS. I guarantee you right now.

00:39:24.000 Raskins.

00:39:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:26.000 The Krasensteins on X right now are saying, listen, I know that we don't like getting taxed, but the IRS does perform a service the American people need, and it's just like, nope!

00:39:37.000 No.

00:39:38.000 I don't like seeing my paycheck, and you don't either.

00:39:40.000 You're never – you have to be completely ideologically possessed.

00:39:47.000 It has to go beyond reasonable political leanings.

00:39:53.000 It has to be ideological possession to be in favor of the IRS. Nate, can I ask you how old you are?

00:40:01.000 49. 49. Do you remember the very first paycheck you ever got?

00:40:06.000 Yeah.

00:40:06.000 And do you remember your reaction to it?

00:40:08.000 Yeah, I was excited.

00:40:11.000 Even though when you looked at the...

00:40:13.000 Oh, well, the first time...

00:40:14.000 Okay, so you've got to understand, the first paycheck I got was under the table.

00:40:20.000 So this is the problem with what you were talking about happening here in West Virginia.

00:40:25.000 Those laws only encourage people to pay people under the table, because why in the heck would you be in a situation...

00:40:36.000 Well, we lost three people because of it.

00:40:39.000 Yeah.

00:40:40.000 The state basically required the individual to create a business.

00:40:44.000 It's $800 to expedite.

00:40:45.000 Otherwise, you're taking a month off.

00:40:47.000 Depending on where you live, you need a registered agent in the state.

00:40:51.000 And then you have to open a bank account.

00:40:52.000 And so we had a handful of people be like, hey, look, man, I don't do enough work to consider that.

00:40:56.000 So, you know, that was it.

00:40:58.000 I had to pay payroll taxes.

00:41:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:01.000 For my daughter.

00:41:04.000 And get...

00:41:07.000 Unemployment insurance for her.

00:41:08.000 Well, so what about the rest of y'alls?

00:41:10.000 Were your first paychecks under the table?

00:41:13.000 Oh, good.

00:41:14.000 Negative, I was at KFC. I mean, my very first one was I worked for, I was like seven years old, a young kid working for the newspaper.

00:41:20.000 But a real job, I worked for KFC and it wasn't under the table, so.

00:41:23.000 What about you?

00:41:23.000 I loved $125 a week.

00:41:25.000 I was super, super pumped.

00:41:27.000 My first actual job was at a pizza joint.

00:41:29.000 So that was not under the table.

00:41:32.000 I was getting paid, and taxes were a complete drag.

00:41:37.000 Now, watch.

00:41:38.000 I'll probably get audited now because I said that.

00:41:41.000 Well, it's been 43 years.

00:41:44.000 I worked at a Portillo's in Chicago.

00:41:47.000 Not the mom-and-pop coffee shop?

00:41:50.000 Well, that was my family business.

00:41:52.000 I didn't get a paycheck.

00:41:53.000 I got tips.

00:41:54.000 You work in the family business, you don't get paid.

00:41:56.000 You got to do what you got to do for your family.

00:41:57.000 Amen.

00:41:57.000 But when I turned 16, I got hired at a Portillo's in Chicago, and I was counting my hours because I needed money.

00:42:05.000 And so I was like, okay, so this week I did 36 hours, and they're paying me.

00:42:10.000 I was like, I don't know, $7.75 an hour or whatever, and I was like, all right.

00:42:12.000 And then the paycheck came, and I opened it up, and I was like, what?

00:42:18.000 Yeah.

00:42:19.000 And then the manager started laughing.

00:42:21.000 And he was like, first paycheck, kid?

00:42:22.000 And I was like, why is it so low?

00:42:25.000 And he's like, go to the withholding section.

00:42:27.000 And I was like, I just spent the whole week here counting out.

00:42:31.000 I knew taxes would come out, but this is way more than that.

00:42:34.000 And they're like, nope.

00:42:35.000 You didn't figure out 30%, did you?

00:42:36.000 It was...

00:42:37.000 If not more.

00:42:39.000 They tell you it's going to be less because you're making only a little bit of money, but then they take out a huge chunk.

00:42:44.000 Yep.

00:42:44.000 I was just giddy to get money in general.

00:42:46.000 The first check that I had, though, that was like that, I remember...

00:42:50.000 Asking tons of questions like, what is this?

00:42:53.000 What is that?

00:42:54.000 There were all these, and of course that was in California for me, so there were all of these taxes that were in there, and I couldn't figure, you know, what half of that stuff was, but it was about 50% on my check.

00:43:05.000 Yeah.

00:43:06.000 And you probably got paid for state, school.

00:43:09.000 I kind of feel like Trump's setting up Democrats.

00:43:12.000 Trump wants to win the midterms.

00:43:13.000 He doesn't want to get impeached.

00:43:15.000 He's, you know, he's getting...

00:43:16.000 I mean, maybe it's too soon.

00:43:17.000 You gotta wait, Trump.

00:43:18.000 You should have gone.

00:43:19.000 Doe should have went to the IRS one month before the election. 0.97

00:43:23.000 I'm sure there's plenty for him to go through between now and then.

00:43:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:27.000 I mean, wait till they get to the Pentagon.

00:43:30.000 And Pete Hegsath is there, and so he's like, okay, I'm excited.

00:43:33.000 But also, Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security.

00:43:37.000 Imagine what's going to happen when they come out and they say, to all of our Social Security recipients, you should be getting $100 more per month, but here's where they've been dumping the money.

00:43:47.000 Imagine when they find mismanagement, wasted budget, and these gross expenditures where people actually need that funding.

00:43:55.000 Didn't DHS just do like a $52 million clawback?

00:43:59.000 I think this was like yesterday.

00:44:00.000 Yeah, from the money they sent to FEMA to the illegals. 0.59

00:44:03.000 So wait till they start doing clawbacks on a lot of this.

00:44:06.000 Shout out Secretary Noem.

00:44:08.000 It would be wonderful to see a significant return when it comes to money.

00:44:13.000 They should do a clawback and be, hey, you know what, folks?

00:44:16.000 No taxes this year.

00:44:17.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we have some breaking news from, was this on Laura Ingram's show just an hour ago?

00:44:24.000 I believe it was.

00:44:24.000 Tom Homan saying, AOC going to jail!

00:44:26.000 What?

00:44:27.000 That's exciting.

00:44:29.000 I'm clickbaiting by saying that.

00:44:31.000 It's effectively what he said.

00:44:32.000 Let me play the clip and then we can get the real context.

00:44:34.000 AOC has commented on this.

00:44:36.000 But, Tom, you got AOC out there, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Congresswoman, putting out a webinar, doing a webinar to help illegals avoid, I guess, apprehension, giving tips about how to continue to remain in the country and ultimately gain the system.

00:44:56.000 And I sent an email today to the Deputy Attorney General.

00:44:59.000 At what level is that impediment?

00:45:01.000 Is that impediment?

00:45:02.000 I'm not an attorney.

00:45:03.000 I'm not a prosecutor.

00:45:04.000 Is that impediment?

00:45:05.000 Is that impeding our law enforcement efforts?

00:45:07.000 If so, what are we going to do about it?

00:45:09.000 Is she crossing the line?

00:45:10.000 So I'm working with the Department of Justice and finding out.

00:45:14.000 Where is that line that they crossed?

00:45:16.000 So maybe AOC is going to be in trouble now, but I need the AOG to opine on that.

00:45:22.000 Impedement is impediment, in my opinion.

00:45:24.000 I'm not a prosecutor, but...

00:45:25.000 We need some further guidance on that.

00:45:27.000 But again, if we have to take every federal dollar out of this city, we'll do it.

00:45:31.000 I mean, we're done.

00:45:32.000 This isn't it anymore.

00:45:34.000 So, AOC has responded with the SpongeBob meme text.

00:45:38.000 Maybe she's going to be in trouble now. 0.99

00:45:40.000 Maybe he can learn to read.

00:45:41.000 The Constitution would be a good place to start.

00:45:44.000 Let me give you the gist of this, my friends.

00:45:46.000 AOC held a webinar where she was... 0.99

00:45:48.000 Okay.

00:45:50.000 AOC hosted a webinar.

00:45:54.000 But never showed up.

00:45:55.000 The intention of the webinar was to provide information to illegal immigrants on how to evade law enforcement.

00:46:02.000 Why did she not show up?

00:46:04.000 Well, Fox News was roasting her for announcing and promoting this webinar her office was going to do, but then not being there.

00:46:13.000 AOC didn't show up because she knew there was legal exposure in this.

00:46:16.000 We have been talking about this for the past couple of weeks since Trump got elected.

00:46:20.000 At what point?

00:46:22.000 Are these Democrats breaking the law, violating, this is Title VIII, U.S. Code 1324. This is immigration law, and that's Section A, Subsection 4, which is encouragement and inducement to reside illegally or enter illegally these United States.

00:46:38.000 At a certain point, it's kind of obvious that's what they're doing.

00:46:40.000 So when AOC sits up a meeting saying, here's how we can get you to stay here illegally and evade law enforcement, that is encouragement.

00:46:49.000 But AOC doesn't show up.

00:46:51.000 Yeah, we discussed this last night because...

00:46:53.000 And I was saying that...

00:46:55.000 I think it was in the context of Ilhan Omar, actually, was the conversation last night.

00:46:59.000 And it's my belief or my opinion that because of the fact that it's Congress people that are doing this, right?

00:47:09.000 So AOC herself, she didn't show up.

00:47:11.000 But Ilhan Omar was speaking to Somali...

00:47:16.000 I believe asylum seekers or migrants or whatever you want to call them, illegals. 0.99

00:47:21.000 And she was speaking to them in Somali and she was telling them, you know, this is how, these are the rights you have and you can avoid talking to the police by doing this and you don't have to talk to the police.

00:47:32.000 And she was explaining these to them.

00:47:34.000 It implies...

00:47:36.000 Because of her position as a congressperson, it implies authority. 0.95

00:47:40.000 It implies what you can do.

00:47:43.000 I'm telling you what to do, and this is what you should do.

00:47:47.000 And I'm telling you this as a congressperson.

00:47:51.000 Like, that should matter.

00:47:53.000 If an average person was saying that, then maybe it's not an inducement to break the law, right?

00:47:58.000 Maybe it's just saying, look, this is something you should know.

00:48:01.000 But because of the fact that it's a congressperson saying it, that implies, the position of authority implies this is what you can do legally.

00:48:10.000 It implies that they're telling them a true thing that is a legal way for them to avoid.

00:48:19.000 For them to come to the United States. 0.96

00:48:20.000 I know I'm wasting my time by asking this question, but I want to ask it anyway.

00:48:25.000 Do you think AOC should be criminally charged for encouragement, inducement, or impediment to law enforcement?

00:48:31.000 Give us a one in chat for yes and a two in chat for no.

00:48:35.000 I know everyone's going to put one.

00:48:37.000 No twos.

00:48:38.000 The reason I ask this is to ask the panel here.

00:48:42.000 Nate, I'll ask you.

00:48:43.000 Do you think AOC... Or any Democrat should be criminally charged if they're impeding law enforcement or encouraging criminal immigration.

00:48:51.000 Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

00:48:53.000 So that's yes?

00:48:55.000 Yes.

00:48:57.000 I say yes.

00:48:59.000 I mean, I'm biased, so.

00:49:01.000 I assume it's a yes from everybody.

00:49:04.000 Someone put 1.5.

00:49:05.000 Okay.

00:49:09.000 Still one.

00:49:10.000 Yeah, it's true.

00:49:10.000 Well, it does round up.

00:49:12.000 The law is the law.

00:49:13.000 Well, here's the issue I have.

00:49:15.000 If they had done it from the House floor, then they could probably get away with it.

00:49:19.000 Yeah, because of the speech and debate clause or whatever.

00:49:21.000 Outside of the House of Congress, you know.

00:49:24.000 I do see a seven.

00:49:26.000 That's the wrong number.

00:49:27.000 A three! 0.99

00:49:28.000 What are you guys doing?

00:49:29.000 So here's the issue I see.

00:49:31.000 It is illegal to do this.

00:49:33.000 And if you go back to 2008, there's this video where Hillary Clinton is talking about building a border barrier.

00:49:39.000 Bernie Sanders is talking about securing the border.

00:49:42.000 Democrats were like, nobody's on board with illegal immigration.

00:49:45.000 But over the past 10 or so years, it has become commonplace among Democrats to advocate, literally breaking the law, advocating for illegal immigration.

00:49:55.000 It became normalized.

00:49:56.000 Now they're all doing it.

00:49:58.000 No one is saying anything about it.

00:50:00.000 We cannot just accept that they've normalized this.

00:50:04.000 We can't sit back and say, well, I know it's a federal crime to do this, but we shouldn't enforce against it because it would be a step too far.

00:50:10.000 They stepped too far when they began breaking the law and encouraging illegal activity.

00:50:15.000 And what does this mean?

00:50:17.000 Oh, they get a fine.

00:50:19.000 You'll get a 30-day court supervision and a $50 fine.

00:50:21.000 Don't do it again.

00:50:22.000 And then if they do it again, we ramp it up and we say, look, we are going to enforce against this.

00:50:28.000 I don't think AOC should go to jail if we're putting on a webinar, but I think she should get a fine of $100 and they should say, don't do it again, court supervision. 0.99

00:50:35.000 Otherwise, it just keeps getting worse.

00:50:37.000 Yeah.

00:50:37.000 If we're the party of the law and order, we need to establish and follow through with our law and order.

00:50:42.000 Yeah, I mean, I made the point the other day that, you know, Congress, there are multiple ways to reprimand Congress people.

00:50:50.000 Censure's been all but forgotten about.

00:50:53.000 And it is actually, you know, it doesn't have significant ramifications, but it does go into the record that, you know, into the Library of Congress.

00:51:03.000 This person broke the rules.

00:51:05.000 They behaved poor.

00:51:06.000 They behaved in an unlawful way, and we censured them for it.

00:51:09.000 It's probably worth doing, in my opinion.

00:51:12.000 And they don't do it anymore.

00:51:16.000 A lot of the reason is because Congress doesn't want to seem like they're siding against Congress.

00:51:22.000 The Senate is definitely...

00:51:25.000 If you look at the...

00:51:25.000 I mean, Marco Rubio is the only guy that got...

00:51:28.000 You know, supermajority of votes in the Senate, and it's because he's a senator.

00:51:32.000 Do you guys remember Perp Walks?

00:51:34.000 Yeah.

00:51:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:35.000 Man, those were the days, huh?

00:51:38.000 That's bringing the shame back.

00:51:40.000 You know when the Democrats changed their opinion on illegal immigration?

00:51:45.000 It all started in 1993, and the reason why is there's somebody significant within the Democrat Party that died in 1993, Cesar Chavez.

00:51:56.000 He used to go down to the border.

00:51:58.000 And whip guys coming across the border and send them back to Mexico because of the fear of what it was going to do to the wages of workers.

00:52:07.000 And what they did, the other thing that happened in 1993 was Congress passed the National Voter Registration Act, which basically forced DMVs to start allowing people to register, or actually, yeah, forced them to allow them to register to vote at the DMV, and the very first state in U.S. history, the state of Washington, Allowed illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, and it started growing from there.

00:52:32.000 There's another piece of the puzzle, and that is Ronald Reagan in California offering up amnesty to illegal immigrants, creating a voting generation that had an interest in the previous generation, who was not American, having access to public funds.

00:52:50.000 So you can actually read about how this chain of events occurred.

00:52:54.000 There's a bunch of illegal immigrants.

00:52:56.000 Ronald Reagan says, okay, we're going to grant them amnesty, or we're going to give them sanctuary, we're going to pass a bill where they can live and reside.

00:53:03.000 And what ends up happening with this, actually it might have been in the 90s, I could be totally screwing the story up.

00:53:10.000 Ronald Reagan advocated for amnesty, which resulted in a bunch of individuals, when it came time to vote, there was a bill in the 90s that would say illegal immigrants no longer have access to public funds.

00:53:21.000 All of their children...

00:53:22.000 All the children of illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:53:25.000 I think it was who were born here.

00:53:27.000 Yeah, I think that's what it was.

00:53:28.000 Again, I'm flubbing this.

00:53:29.000 But I think it was he let him stay.

00:53:31.000 We're not going to deport.

00:53:32.000 They had kids.

00:53:33.000 Those kids grew up.

00:53:34.000 And then when it came time to vote, those kids said, I want to vote that my parents get access to public funds.

00:53:40.000 So that's when they say that California flipped from Republican to Democrat.

00:53:44.000 The moment they tried saying we're not going to give money to illegal immigrants anymore.

00:53:48.000 But those illegal immigrants who had kids here who could vote.

00:53:51.000 Said, I'm going to vote for my parents.

00:53:54.000 This is why I always tell everybody when it comes to illegal immigration, the issue is you are extracting American community. 1.00

00:54:00.000 I was talking to Ro Khanna about this.

00:54:02.000 And I said, an immigrant is not wrong to vote for their interests.

00:54:07.000 But they are voting against the interests of the community that's been there for a long time.

00:54:11.000 So the example I give is this.

00:54:13.000 A man moves to an area and it's big farmland, empty fields.

00:54:16.000 He builds a house.

00:54:17.000 He starts selling a product and he's a young man.

00:54:20.000 One by one, other people start building up businesses in the area to provide a service.

00:54:24.000 And those guys get together and they say, you guys want to put a baseball field here?

00:54:28.000 And they're like, let's put a baseball field here.

00:54:30.000 So they all decide to pool their money.

00:54:31.000 And right now the town has a residency of, you know, it's not even a town.

00:54:34.000 It's just 14 people.

00:54:35.000 A generation goes by.

00:54:36.000 Now there are 78 people.

00:54:38.000 Jobs have built up and that park is there.

00:54:40.000 That's baseball.

00:54:41.000 The guy is now playing baseball with his young son.

00:54:43.000 His son grows up and is now a young man of himself.

00:54:47.000 The population has grown.

00:54:48.000 He brings his son to play baseball.

00:54:50.000 That kid grows up.

00:54:51.000 There's now a town of three, four hundred people and they're like, look at this, you know, my granddad came in here and he built this place and we've had this baseball field our whole lives.

00:55:00.000 I want my kids to play in this baseball field and you know what?

00:55:03.000 It's fallen into disrepair.

00:55:04.000 So he goes to a community center meeting, you know, the whole town is there and he says, I know that we've got some extra funds.

00:55:11.000 My granddad was here.

00:55:12.000 He built that baseball field.

00:55:14.000 Why don't we all pool our money together and use some of the tax resources we have to make that? 0.70

00:55:18.000 Baseball field better.

00:55:19.000 And all of the residents clap and cheer, except for the Haitian migrants who were moved in by Joe Biden, all 400 of them. 0.81

00:55:27.000 They then say, why are we spending money on a baseball field?

00:55:30.000 We have 400 migrants and refugees who need a community center, who can provide food for them.

00:55:36.000 And then there's rabble, rabble, rabble.

00:55:38.000 A vote is had.

00:55:39.000 And a few of the residents say, look, we're Democrats and we have to help these poor migrants.

00:55:44.000 So we're voting against the baseball field.

00:55:47.000 It's not wrong. 0.84

00:55:48.000 It's not factually incorrect.

00:55:50.000 The migrants are there.

00:55:52.000 They do need resources to accommodate them.

00:55:54.000 The issue is when you bring in people who are not members of the community, they will vote against the interests of the community.

00:56:00.000 It's not fair to the people who planted trees whose shade they knew they would never sit beneath.

00:56:05.000 What we end up with is this culture where Democrats are chopping down all the trees for quick fuel, leaving the future barren.

00:56:12.000 And then you have the right, which is not just Republicans, largely not Republicans.

00:56:16.000 It's MAGA, let's be honest.

00:56:17.000 The Republican Party has failed miserably.

00:56:19.000 But now that Trump has taken it over, these are people who are trying to plant those trees, have families, have kids, and build a society where there will be a baseball field, or whatever you think it might be in the future, and it will be funded and repaired.

00:56:32.000 So to put it simply, as I told Ro Khanna, you're not wrong to vote for your parents.

00:56:37.000 You're not wrong to vote to say, hey, look, man, my dad needs help.

00:56:42.000 People come here illegally.

00:56:43.000 They break our laws.

00:56:45.000 And then a generation later, those children can vote against the interests of the honest, hardworking American.

00:56:50.000 Well, this brings up the issue of birthright citizenship that Trump just did these executive order and the courts are trying to stop it.

00:56:58.000 So that's one of the issues right now that's going on is that whether or not somebody who is born to illegal aliens is actually an American citizen because they're not born under the jurisdiction.

00:57:11.000 of the United States when their parent is here illegally.

00:57:15.000 I agree.

00:57:16.000 We need to get rid of birthright citizenship. 0.99

00:57:19.000 It's very important to beat this.

00:57:21.000 It's going to be the end of America if we keep having these anchor babies or second generation folks coming into our world. 1.00

00:57:28.000 Sorry, if they don't have our American values and they have their own values from their own country where it's not a melting pot, we're like multicultural, it's the end of America.

00:57:38.000 That's half of it though because it's true. 0.98

00:57:39.000 We want American values, the Constitution, free speech, all the things that are enshrined in it.

00:57:43.000 But that was the point I was making.

00:57:46.000 When they make the argument, like, hey, look, you know, some of these people who come to America really do love and believe in America.

00:57:52.000 I've heard it over and over again.

00:57:53.000 It's like I know somebody who's a DACA recipient and they're big fans of Trump.

00:57:57.000 And I'm like, listen, what happens is that kid is going to be presented with a vote.

00:58:03.000 Will the vote benefit his parents who are not citizens or will it benefit the community of the United States?

00:58:09.000 They will vote for their parents.

00:58:10.000 They should vote for their parents.

00:58:12.000 It is the right thing to do to stand up for your parents.

00:58:14.000 But that's the problem with extracting American community and bringing in 10 to 20 million new people, whether legally or illegally, in four years. 0.72

00:58:24.000 It's not that they're voting incorrectly.

00:58:26.000 It's not that they're voting morally wrong.

00:58:27.000 It's that they're voting against the interests of people who live here.

00:58:30.000 We do go back to the 1920s where we did like a moratorium on all immigration.

00:58:35.000 It was very limited back then.

00:58:37.000 It was like 7,000 deportations.

00:58:40.000 But, you know, we had Irish, Italian.

00:58:43.000 No one spoke the same languages.

00:58:44.000 You know, now they're all white folks, apparently. 0.83

00:58:46.000 But nobody spoke the same language.

00:58:48.000 Nobody got along, so they cut it off until 30, 20 years.

00:58:52.000 Sagar and Jetty does great points on this.

00:58:54.000 And they cut it off, and then everyone started assimilating, started speaking English, the same language, and then we...

00:58:59.000 You know, we brought it back.

00:59:01.000 Let's jump to this story.

00:59:02.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we have very good news for you today.

00:59:04.000 Hey! 0.99

00:59:05.000 RFK Jr. confirmed as Health and Human Services Secretary.

00:59:09.000 It finally happened.

00:59:10.000 Mitch McConnell voted against him.

00:59:11.000 He voted against Tulsi Gabbard, too. 0.95

00:59:12.000 This guy's awful.

00:59:13.000 I just want everyone to know that I've purchased 1,000 Pop-Tarts, and today I ordered a spattering of Taco Bell. 0.75

00:59:20.000 And we all enjoyed ourselves.

00:59:22.000 And, well, I had to.

00:59:23.000 Get it before it's gone.

00:59:24.000 Exactly.

00:59:25.000 Get it before it's gone.

00:59:26.000 Tomorrow's got to be burgers.

00:59:27.000 We need some burgers.

00:59:28.000 Yeah, we'll get some McDonald's.

00:59:29.000 Look, I can do Taco Bell.

00:59:31.000 I don't think Trump's going to let him get rid of McDonald's.

00:59:34.000 Right, right, right.

00:59:35.000 No, no, no.

00:59:36.000 But, you know, honestly, I don't think he's going to take away our cheeseburgers or anything like that.

00:59:41.000 Some of the ingredients.

00:59:42.000 Exactly.

00:59:43.000 And so I'm half kidding.

00:59:44.000 I got Taco Bell because I wanted it.

00:59:46.000 It was funny.

00:59:47.000 You know, actually what happened was I made a joke on Twitter saying that I was going to buy Taco Bell before he takes it away from us.

00:59:53.000 Then I thought about it for a second and I was like, I'm ordering Taco Bell!

00:59:56.000 And then I ordered a bunch.

00:59:57.000 It was delicious.

00:59:59.000 Brett went and said, come and take it.

01:00:02.000 He posted it.

01:00:03.000 Come and take it.

01:00:04.000 What's going to happen though is RFK Jr. is head of HHS, which I believe, if I'm not mistaken, oversees the FDA, right?

01:00:11.000 Yes, sir.

01:00:12.000 There's going to be some changes.

01:00:13.000 And I think it's going to be good.

01:00:15.000 I'm curious to see how this affects the food products, but fast food is going to be different.

01:00:20.000 There's a lot of weird preservatives and garbage in tons of our food, and that's going to be gone.

01:00:25.000 Maybe now.

01:00:26.000 We will no longer have to go to restaurants requesting a Mexican Coke.

01:00:30.000 A good old American Coke will have real cane sugar in it.

01:00:32.000 Yeah.

01:00:34.000 Under RFK Jr. I would love the idea, but I think that that's going to take an end to corn subsidies, because I will actually go and buy.

01:00:44.000 You don't think so?

01:00:45.000 No, no, no.

01:00:45.000 Keep it on.

01:00:45.000 I will go to the grocery store and I'll buy Mexican Coke.

01:00:49.000 They have it at a couple different grocery stores, specifically because I do prefer the cane sugar and it is better out of a glass bottle.

01:00:56.000 I'm just saying no more corn subsidies.

01:00:57.000 I would love it.

01:00:58.000 I would love it.

01:01:00.000 I would love to get rid of the corn subsidies.

01:01:03.000 There are farmers that probably are thinking I'm going to kill you for saying that.

01:01:07.000 Don't care.

01:01:08.000 But exactly.

01:01:09.000 I'm not concerned.

01:01:10.000 You have no right to my labor.

01:01:12.000 Yep.

01:01:13.000 Like, I choose to give it to you or not.

01:01:15.000 And this is the problem I have with everyone who wants an entitlement.

01:01:18.000 There are certain entitlements I'm willing to concede to, right?

01:01:22.000 I don't like Social Security as a system.

01:01:23.000 I believe families should take care of the elderly.

01:01:25.000 But I certainly don't want a bunch of destitute elderly people who can't support themselves so gutting the system right now. 1.00

01:01:30.000 Not a good idea.

01:01:31.000 Not a good idea.

01:01:32.000 But I want to make sure it's clear that my tax dollars and my labor funding you to get free stuff, I'm not interested in that.

01:01:40.000 If corn can't be grown for the right price, don't grow it.

01:01:43.000 And then the problem is we end up with high-fructose corn syrup and corn ethanol and all that garbage because the government's subsidizing it.

01:01:50.000 It's not worth the production.

01:01:51.000 It stifles innovation.

01:01:53.000 And everyone knows that there's tons of high-fructose corn syrup in...

01:01:58.000 All sorts of products that don't need it or you don't want to have it in there.

01:02:04.000 And there's the argument, look, don't go into the aisles.

01:02:07.000 You do your grocery shopping in the produce department, do it in the meat department, do it in the dairy department, but if you go into the aisles, then that's where you get into problems with the foods that you're eating.

01:02:17.000 I mean, that makes sense.

01:02:18.000 There's some validity to it.

01:02:19.000 Well, the problem is that the people that are poor...

01:02:22.000 Yeah.

01:02:22.000 They often have to go into the aisles.

01:02:24.000 And the one thing that is going to be interesting about this is that one of the reasons why some of those products in the aisles is so cheap is because of things like corn syrup and other things that they're not having to import from Mexico or South America.

01:02:37.000 They should not be eating some of that stuff.

01:02:38.000 I agree.

01:02:39.000 I agree.

01:02:39.000 And there's a secondary issue here, too, and that is that most of these people, they end up with health problems, and then the government ends up having to pay for all those health bills.

01:02:51.000 And so it is in the government's best interest to produce or to at least make sure that we're not producing foods that are creating things like diabetes and cancer and diabetes.

01:03:01.000 When you've got Europe, it's got half of the products that are in our...

01:03:06.000 You've got the same product.

01:03:07.000 I think one of them I saw was Lucky Charms.

01:03:10.000 There's chemicals in our version here that is not in the European version.

01:03:15.000 Why can't they just simply get rid of some of these things that are toxic chemicals?

01:03:20.000 When we order flour, And things like that?

01:03:22.000 Yeah.

01:03:23.000 I largely don't.

01:03:24.000 I've actually, since I got the dental work, and the only thing I could eat was, like, squishy carbs.

01:03:29.000 I have been eating a bit.

01:03:30.000 But, you know, Allison, when she orders, it's going to be organic imported from a foreign country because we don't trust that.

01:03:36.000 It's not just the preservatives and stuff.

01:03:40.000 Yeah.

01:03:40.000 It's like the glyphosate.

01:03:41.000 The glyphosate.

01:03:42.000 Pesticides and all that stuff.

01:03:43.000 Even if it's organic and locally.

01:03:45.000 Yeah, and they don't even call it GMOs anymore.

01:03:46.000 Now they're saying engineered foods.

01:03:50.000 You've got...

01:03:51.000 And I've seen this with myself.

01:03:52.000 I have diabetes and I've got to be very careful about what I eat.

01:03:55.000 And I noticed that if I have a slice of bread that is just your regular good old-fashioned American bread, it spikes my blood sugar straight up.

01:04:04.000 I think it's David's bread or Dave's killer bread, which is all organic.

01:04:09.000 Oh yeah, that ex-convict guy.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, I can eat that.

01:04:11.000 I can eat that stuff.

01:04:12.000 Doesn't spike my blood sugar at all.

01:04:14.000 It's probably like the whole grain.

01:04:16.000 Well, it's not just that, but it's also organic, and there's none of that glyphosate.

01:04:19.000 It's not GMO. You know, all of that stuff, it makes a difference.

01:04:23.000 Yeah.

01:04:25.000 RFK Jr. is coming in.

01:04:26.000 You know, it would have been, I made the joke before the show, so I'm not going to deliver it as well, but I was just thinking how funny it would be if, like, as soon as he got sworn in, he was like, am I HHS secretary now?

01:04:35.000 And they're like, yes, vaccines are banned!

01:04:36.000 No more vaccines!

01:04:38.000 And then they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:04:41.000 I'm wondering how far he's going to go with it, though.

01:04:44.000 I mean, like, are we going to see dramatic heavy change, or is it going to be like a light touch where, like, Lucky Charms no longer has, you know, yellow five?

01:04:51.000 Well, I think the research is where it's going to matter.

01:04:54.000 I mean, all this research that gets funded right now at NIH and CDC, it's all basically designed to get a particular result, right, that pushes the narrative that they want.

01:05:05.000 So if he just tackles that one issue, and we actually start getting legit...

01:05:11.000 You know, we actually start seeing what is actually happening.

01:05:14.000 Is there a correlation between autism and some of these childhood vaccines?

01:05:19.000 Then he won't have to do anything.

01:05:21.000 The people will demand it.

01:05:23.000 Yeah.

01:05:24.000 Well, I mean, look, I think overall the...

01:05:29.000 The addition of RFK to the HHS is going to be a good thing, and I think it's in multiple aspects.

01:05:36.000 I've talked a lot about the fact that the refugee resettlement program, which is under HHS, and they use that to shuffle immigrant...

01:05:47.000 Asylum seekers, they call them, but essentially anyone that comes to the U.S. illegally and then they tell the people that are picking up. 0.53

01:05:55.000 They'll come to the U.S. illegally, then they'll look to the border patrol and they'll say, I'm seeking asylum, which is illegal in the first place.

01:06:01.000 If you want to legitimately come to the U.S. as an asylum seeker, you have to go to a port of entry.

01:06:06.000 You can't just come across and tell the border patrol, oh, I'm seeking asylum.

01:06:10.000 But that in and of itself is a different situation.

01:06:14.000 The fact that they're...

01:06:15.000 Using HHS and American tax money to shuffle illegal immigrants around in order to change the makeup of the states that they're sending them to. 0.68

01:06:25.000 That's right.

01:06:25.000 So that way they can change the election outcome.

01:06:29.000 Even if they don't vote, and this is an important factor, even if they don't vote, it still affects apportionment.

01:06:35.000 Yep, 100%.

01:06:36.000 And that's something that I do think needs to change, is the way that they are counting people for the sake of the census.

01:06:44.000 And for the number of representatives that each of these states have, if they changed it, I think California would lose like eight seats.

01:06:52.000 Oh, right.

01:06:53.000 And by the way, West Virginia would gain a seat.

01:06:56.000 So I did the math on this because basically everything gets reapportioned.

01:07:01.000 And so there are several, I think there's 14 states that would gain a seat.

01:07:05.000 And you have New York, I think it was New York, Texas.

01:07:10.000 Florida, California would lose some seats, but mostly California and New York.

01:07:15.000 Yeah, the estimates of California are wild.

01:07:17.000 Some say it could be as low as 1 or as high as 13. Yeah, that's – 7 is based off of the numbers that – I think it was 7 or 8 that was based off the numbers of what they know in terms of – Trump's got to do it.

01:07:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:07:29.000 By any means that he can, constitutionally, legally, he should be saying we're going to do the census question.

01:07:35.000 We are – whatever has to be done.

01:07:38.000 Well, Phil, what you were just talking about, though, this is part of the whole thing with the USAID, too, because that funding was going to groups like Catholic charities, Lutheran charities, which basically are sending...

01:07:50.000 On our tax dollar, they're sending lawyers down there to go advise these people on how to lie in order to get into the HHS program. 0.90

01:08:01.000 The USAID, and people call it USAID, and that's a terrible, terrible misnomer.

01:08:06.000 It's the United States Agency for International Development.

01:08:10.000 It is not an aid agency.

01:08:12.000 It is about exercising American soft power abroad, and that has been turned inwards.

01:08:20.000 And it has been made, it was made, it probably had started before this, but it was made overtly legal with the Smith-Munt Modernization Act of 2012, I believe.

01:08:33.000 The Smith-Munt Modernization Act of 2012. Obama signed that into law, which made it legal for USAID. To do operations inside the United States.

01:08:42.000 Prior to the Smith Modernization Act, it was illegal for USAID to operate inside the United States.

01:08:51.000 That changed in 2012. And you can see...

01:08:56.000 The effect on the American population, the reason why the U.S. seems so polarized, or is so polarized now, and prior to 2012, people my age, I'm the same age as you, people our age, know what it was like, even in the 90s.

01:09:12.000 I remember when CNN was respectable.

01:09:14.000 Yes, back when the idea of Democrats and Republicans working together for a desired result that was good for the American people, that was something that was common.

01:09:25.000 In the 90s.

01:09:26.000 You had you had Bill Clinton said the age of big government is over because he got trounced in the midterms and he had to work with Newt Gingrich.

01:09:37.000 Now, you can say you can say if you like and say, well, we didn't like these policies.

01:09:41.000 We did like these policies.

01:09:42.000 That's neither here nor there.

01:09:43.000 The point is Bill Clinton and the Clinton administration.

01:09:47.000 Took that message that was sent to his administration by the trouncing that they got in the midterms, and he changed the policies that he was going to do.

01:09:56.000 You don't see that anymore.

01:09:58.000 No, the Democrats are not learning from their mistakes.

01:10:00.000 Not at all.

01:10:00.000 And that's because they had a stranglehold on USAID and the bureaucracy.

01:10:07.000 USAID had turned all of the things that worked so well to fight communism internationally at the after World War II and throughout the whole...

01:10:16.000 It was all turned against the left.

01:10:19.000 All of these agencies were used against the left.

01:10:23.000 They worked phenomenally.

01:10:25.000 And then when the left became ascendant, they took those same agencies and they used them against not only the right, but against the American people.

01:10:36.000 Let's jump to this breaking news from Variety.

01:10:39.000 TikTok has returned to Apple and the Google App Stores.

01:10:43.000 I would just describe this as hypocrisy.

01:10:46.000 I am not a fan, but let's read.

01:10:49.000 They said the tech giants had pulled TikTok from their stores because a federal law effectively banned TikTok as of January 19th.

01:10:54.000 Penalties for violating the law by hosting or distributing TikTok in the U.S. are $5,000 per user or as much as $850 billion in penalties, given TikTok's claim that it has 170 million users.

01:11:07.000 As such, both Apple and Google had removed it.

01:11:09.000 Trump signed an executive order instructing U.S. Attorney General to abstain for a 75-day period from enforcing the ban.

01:11:15.000 The order also instructed the AG to issue a letter to each provider stating there's been no violation of the statute, that there is no liability for any conduct as of January 19th and through the 75-day extension.

01:11:25.000 According to a Bloomberg report, Attorney General Pam Bondi sent both Apple and Google letters Thursday to that effect.

01:11:31.000 Likely for that reason, they have now restored these apps today.

01:11:36.000 And it's wrong.

01:11:39.000 I do not agree with the idea that Congress can pass a law that will just be unilaterally not enforced on a whim to this degree.

01:11:51.000 This is passed by Congress for good reason.

01:11:54.000 It had bipartisan support.

01:11:56.000 And then for now, Donald Trump thinks that it helped him get young people.

01:12:01.000 They did this stunt.

01:12:02.000 Now he's saying we're not going to force against TikTok.

01:12:04.000 Okay, well, let me tell you guys.

01:12:06.000 We started a new TikTok because we've been banned like four times, and they banned us again because for literally having an opinion show.

01:12:12.000 Well, they give us a warning.

01:12:13.000 Okay.

01:12:13.000 So we're probably banned at any moment.

01:12:15.000 Sure.

01:12:16.000 And, you know, we don't want to not be on these platforms, but they won't let us on them.

01:12:20.000 They outright said that we exist in a shared reality and the opinions expressed on your show don't exist within it, so you are being warned we will delete your channel.

01:12:27.000 That's TikTok.

01:12:28.000 Wow.

01:12:28.000 What opinions on this show warrant that?

01:12:31.000 Well, Donald Trump is defending it, and I think that's a huge mistake.

01:12:34.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

01:12:36.000 The app TikTok is a method of propaganda.

01:12:42.000 It's linked directly to the Chinese Communist Party.

01:12:45.000 ByteDance has a CCP officer in their building.

01:12:49.000 It's just like when the FBI was in Twitter.

01:12:52.000 I would argue that Facebook YouTube is no different.

01:12:58.000 I agree with you in principle, but at the very least, you have the recourse to be able to go to court in the US with those.

01:13:10.000 You can't go to court against ByteDance in the US. They don't have to.

01:13:16.000 And also, you're not going to be able to take the Chinese government to court either.

01:13:19.000 You can actually sue the American federal government if you want to, and you'll get into a court, and it's possible that you'll win.

01:13:29.000 People have in the past.

01:13:29.000 You're not going to sue the Chinese government.

01:13:31.000 I thought the issue with TikTok, though, was that there are concerns over the collection of user information, PII, and all of that.

01:13:38.000 That's a big one.

01:13:39.000 And then the argument Jimmy Kimmel made, which I'm surprised to say is a good one, is that sometimes kids grow up.

01:13:45.000 And when they do, these 15-year-olds who put a whole bunch of compromising information on the platform and videos they may be embarrassed by, when they're older and they're working for the tech industry or any company, really, China's going to have information to get access to their accounts.

01:14:04.000 But the big issue, in my opinion, is that TikTok largely promotes leftist ideology.

01:14:09.000 So, look, the fact that they've now told us to our faces, I should say, in a warning, that the opinions expressed on this show exist outside of their shared reality, it is obvious.

01:14:21.000 We are not a far-right show, by any sense of the imagination.

01:14:25.000 Ro Khanna called me reasonable.

01:14:27.000 Democrat guy says, oh, wow, you know, you're fairly reasonable, huh?

01:14:30.000 It's a fairly moderate show with an eclectic bunch of voices.

01:14:33.000 not a lot on TikTok.

01:14:34.000 TikTok is all about the narrative machine. 0.99

01:14:37.000 It's about propping up to the tunes of tens of millions of followers, people like Dylan Mulvaney to tell kids to cut their balls off. 0.98

01:14:42.000 Yeah, that's TikTok. 0.81

01:14:43.000 Facebook and YouTube have these problems as well.

01:14:45.000 But at the very least, they struggle against American culture and society, which largely protects this and resulted in the election of Donald Trump.

01:14:52.000 Trump then caves and is now defending TikTok.

01:14:54.000 And the assumption is it's because there's a powerful billionaire investor who started hiring a bunch of conservatives to flip on the issue.

01:15:04.000 They caved.

01:15:05.000 Well, maybe TikTok will become less leftist now that they're not getting probably all this USAID money going to half of the people that were running on there.

01:15:16.000 I don't know that they're getting USAID money, but we assumed maybe because they were fearing the ban and by Donald Trump saying we're going to protect TikTok, the censorship would stop.

01:15:25.000 But we had a conservative on Deborah Lea the other day saying that she got banned four times.

01:15:30.000 Look, Riley, there are tons of people.

01:15:34.000 Who flipped the moment Trump said so.

01:15:36.000 He said, we like it now because young people like us.

01:15:39.000 So, Riley Gaines, for instance, was defending TikTok, and they're using this fake meme where they claim that Hawaii is owned by China.

01:15:46.000 I don't know, it's actually nuts.

01:15:47.000 There's a map where it's like, here's the bigger threat, all the farmland China owns. 0.99

01:15:51.000 And it literally shows the entire island of Hawaii is owned by China.

01:15:53.000 Guys, it's not real.

01:15:54.000 It is fine to say that we don't like China buying farmland.

01:15:58.000 Done.

01:15:59.000 We'll deal with that as well.

01:16:00.000 This is a separate issue.

01:16:01.000 But the issue is Riley Gaines, who I respect and has a good message, 600,000 followers on TikTok, Dylan Mulvaney, 13 million.

01:16:09.000 So are we really going to play this game?

01:16:12.000 We know TikTok is unaccountable, taking young people's data and largely pushing woke leftist ideas that will destabilize and destroy our culture and our country.

01:16:20.000 For what reason are they defending it?

01:16:23.000 I had a huge Discord conversation after one time we had that nice fellow Joey on.

01:16:31.000 It was like three days worth of conversations and everyone's backing TikTok because of those reasons.

01:16:37.000 Maybe it's not that bad.

01:16:39.000 Now they're finally sharing American values.

01:16:41.000 They're letting us speak.

01:16:43.000 So Raymond, it's not what you think it is, Raymond.

01:16:48.000 My feeling, of course, is I disagree fully.

01:16:50.000 TikTok should...

01:16:51.000 I don't give an F about TikTok.

01:16:52.000 They can go right away.

01:16:54.000 Phil, what do you think?

01:16:55.000 I think that this whole issue could be solved by Meta if they would take the TikTok model, which is make sure that every single piece of content that is put on Instagram gets put into someone else's feed.

01:17:13.000 They do that.

01:17:14.000 Do they do that?

01:17:16.000 Instagram adopted the TikTok interest algorithm model years ago.

01:17:19.000 Did they?

01:17:20.000 I hate it!

01:17:21.000 Well, then why is it that things on TikTok will go viral in ways that it doesn't on other platforms?

01:17:30.000 But what do you mean?

01:17:31.000 Well, so you can see...

01:17:33.000 I know what you're talking about.

01:17:35.000 It is different.

01:17:38.000 I'll give you an example.

01:17:39.000 I had a TikTok video I made, and it went viral, and I think I had like over 200,000 viewers within 24 hours.

01:17:47.000 How many comments?

01:17:48.000 Never.

01:17:49.000 A lot of comments.

01:17:50.000 I don't know how many I got, but the thing that was crazy is I've never read anything.

01:17:55.000 I was going to ask you that.

01:17:56.000 That's a good question.

01:17:58.000 Are they propping you up?

01:17:59.000 They're propping up the right for their own purposes.

01:18:02.000 It was over a January 6th issue, which I was kind of surprised because obviously you couldn't get anything through Facebook, through YouTube, through any of the major platforms that were in the U.S. About 12 years ago, there was this big scandal.

01:18:19.000 Actually, I don't know.

01:18:20.000 There was a lawsuit that happened.

01:18:21.000 Facebook was accused of fraud.

01:18:24.000 They had been claiming that views, that were not views, were views.

01:18:28.000 So basically, people would be on Facebook, they'd scroll past a video, not actually look at it, but as soon as it turned on, view.

01:18:35.000 So I remember being at a meeting with Discovery, Discovery Networks.

01:18:39.000 And they were saying, what do you think?

01:18:41.000 You think YouTube's still going to be able to dominate?

01:18:43.000 Because, man, our views on Facebook are huge.

01:18:45.000 And I said, how many comments are you getting?

01:18:47.000 And they're like, well, I don't know.

01:18:48.000 And I'm like, okay, well, take a look at how many comments you get, the actual engagement.

01:18:52.000 There's a ratio that would make sense.

01:18:54.000 And they basically said, I don't know, man.

01:18:56.000 We put up a video, we get like 10 million views on it.

01:18:59.000 And we put it on YouTube, we get like a million.

01:19:01.000 And the advertisers don't care.

01:19:03.000 And I was like, yeah, okay, it sounds like those aren't actually views.

01:19:06.000 And the advertisers will care after the first month when they realize they're getting no return on the money they're spending.

01:19:12.000 That's a good point.

01:19:13.000 Sure enough, Facebook got sued over this.

01:19:14.000 So the issue very well may be, That the structure of TikTok and how it displays information has people convinced, wow, I'm going viral.

01:19:24.000 I should use this platform instead.

01:19:26.000 That's a very good point.

01:19:27.000 Well, I mean, so TikTok does also, like, lay it out on their app.

01:19:33.000 Like, this is the protocol you need to follow, so that way...

01:19:38.000 You can be successful in TikTok.

01:19:40.000 And the people that follow that protocol seem to get to the point where they're successful.

01:19:46.000 What does that mean, though?

01:19:47.000 How to post videos or what?

01:19:48.000 How to post and the schedule you should post if you want to reach maximum viewers.

01:19:54.000 And TikTok has some kind of special sauce.

01:19:58.000 I don't know what it is.

01:19:59.000 But there's something about TikTok.

01:20:01.000 They definitely feed you back stuff that you're interested in.

01:20:03.000 Because I hardly ever see anything liberal.

01:20:07.000 On TikTok.

01:20:08.000 But that's because I'm not interested in anything liberal.

01:20:11.000 I mean, I get all nothing but conservatives on there.

01:20:14.000 And I don't believe that there aren't people at Instagram or at YouTube that can't look at what's going on and say, okay, we've watched enough videos and have done enough studying of what TikTok does where we cannot reverse engineer.

01:20:32.000 I totally believe that it's possible to reverse engineer it.

01:20:36.000 And considering I believe that's possible, I don't see why another...

01:20:41.000 platform doesn't adopt that because TikTok is the most successful.

01:20:45.000 So Instagram copied TikTok years ago.

01:20:49.000 It functions much the same way.

01:20:50.000 You'll notice this in that when you go to Instagram, you no longer are, when you're scrolling your timeline, it is not people you follow.

01:20:57.000 So then what's the special sauce that makes TikTok better?

01:20:59.000 Why is it that people prefer TikTok?

01:21:00.000 I don't think it is.

01:21:01.000 I think it's just critical mass.

01:21:04.000 Do you mean real, Tim?

01:21:05.000 Because my, when I... Open Instagram, I get the people I follow, but when I go to Reels, I always get far leftists, I get crazy, like, I don't care about you.

01:21:13.000 If you open Instagram, the home tab, you will get some of what you follow, followed by, it's a mix of interest and random stuff.

01:21:23.000 Oh, I don't know who It's Fuzzy was, okay. 0.88

01:21:26.000 Right.

01:21:26.000 I don't know, just download, okay.

01:21:28.000 Behind the scenes of Jack Black and School of Rock.

01:21:31.000 I don't know why it's sending me that.

01:21:32.000 But either way, get rid of Instagram, get rid of Facebook, get rid of...

01:21:37.000 All of it.

01:21:37.000 I don't care.

01:21:38.000 Save the minds of the fucking... 1.00

01:21:40.000 Save the minds of the youth. 1.00

01:21:41.000 That's all that matters.

01:21:42.000 Save America.

01:21:43.000 So what about...

01:21:43.000 That's not helpful for the conversation at all.

01:21:45.000 I know.

01:21:46.000 Section 230. I feel like Ian right now.

01:21:47.000 What about it?

01:21:48.000 Well, they obviously...

01:21:49.000 They don't enforce it.

01:21:51.000 The Congress created this law.

01:21:54.000 Nobody enforces it whatsoever.

01:21:56.000 Well, no, no, no, no.

01:21:56.000 It's a protection.

01:21:58.000 For the companies against liability.

01:22:00.000 So it's enforced all the time.

01:22:01.000 If you try to sue fate...

01:22:02.000 Yeah, but they're not supposed to be...

01:22:03.000 They're not supposed to be...

01:22:05.000 It's supposed to be treated like a utility, right?

01:22:07.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:22:07.000 So people misunderstand Section 230. Section 230 specifically says internet service providers are allowed to editorialize and delete content.

01:22:19.000 That's what it says.

01:22:21.000 It says if content is objectionable, obscene, or otherwise, it can be moderated without liability.

01:22:25.000 That's what the law says.

01:22:26.000 It's enforced every day.

01:22:28.000 If you try to file a lawsuit against Facebook, it will be enforced.

01:22:30.000 Your lawsuit's thrown out.

01:22:32.000 So there was this confusion that came up, you know, eight years ago when everyone was talking about Section 230 because people kept saying, yeah, but are they a publisher or a platform?

01:22:42.000 Literally never mattered and has nothing to do with Section 230. Section 230 just says that if you're an internet service providing, you know, people the ability to use it, not only are you not liable for the things they post, you are additionally allowed to delete.

01:22:55.000 By your choosing of what you think may be obscene, and you still maintain those protections.

01:23:00.000 So it explicitly states, you can delete for these reasons, and it's opinion.

01:23:07.000 So that's where we are.

01:23:11.000 If they want to repeal it, then I think that would dramatically change.

01:23:13.000 If they got rid of Section 230, YouTube would become CNN. YouTube would have to enter into formal contracts and then go to people and say, then they would actually say, we're going to oversee the production of your content because we won't allow you to publish certain things.

01:23:26.000 Otherwise, we will get sued.

01:23:28.000 Wikipedia, I think, shouldn't have Section 230 protections based on the fact that it asserts that itself is the publisher of the content.

01:23:36.000 Section 230 basically says you can't sue the platform for what the publisher did.

01:23:41.000 People argued then, okay, well, is it a platform or a publisher?

01:23:45.000 What that means is, there was an instance where X, or Twitter at the time, was making statements.

01:23:52.000 Facebook also made statements.

01:23:54.000 When Facebook was running that fact checker program with the Pointer Institute, which they recently got rid of, you would load up, say, an article from the Federalist, and it would have a tag over it, let's say on Instagram, and it would say, fact checkers found fake information.

01:24:07.000 That's a statement from Facebook.

01:24:10.000 Facebook published that information.

01:24:11.000 You could...

01:24:12.000 Take a defamation suit against them for that, but then they would argue, we never said it was fake.

01:24:16.000 We said fact-checkers rated it false, which is a true statement. 0.80

01:24:19.000 That's how they got around it.

01:24:21.000 However, with Twitter, Facebook, YouTube deleting content, they're not saying anything.

01:24:26.000 There is no published statement.

01:24:28.000 You can't sue them.

01:24:29.000 So, Section 230 protects them, and they can act as editors, and it gives them de facto editorial powers, because then they can be like, we brought on ten people, nine of them are liberal, one's conservative, we can ban the conservative.

01:24:41.000 And we get the message we want published without us having to actually say it.

01:24:46.000 Do you think they'll have to pay the fines?

01:24:48.000 End of day?

01:24:49.000 Do you think they'll have to pay the $5,000 per user?

01:24:52.000 I don't know.

01:24:54.000 It's breaking the law, right, though?

01:24:55.000 Yep.

01:24:56.000 It's definitely breaking the law.

01:24:57.000 I mean, I assume they'll go to court and they'll fight it.

01:25:01.000 They'll probably get away with it, of course.

01:25:02.000 Well, the letter from Pam Bondi says they're not going to accrue any fines.

01:25:05.000 But I reject and I resent what they're doing.

01:25:10.000 I think it's disgusting. 0.99

01:25:11.000 I think it is special interest garbage, and it's the worst thing happening right now in the Trump administration. 0.99

01:25:17.000 Look, make any argument you want about how you like TikTok. 0.84

01:25:20.000 It still doesn't change the fact that this is the one instance where TikTok, which is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, has no stated reason for why they're protecting it from federal law.

01:25:29.000 If Trump came out and said, we have been given access to the algorithm and we can hereby confirm they're changing these things, I'd be like, okay, that may be a reason.

01:25:38.000 To do what he's doing.

01:25:39.000 There is no reason given by Trump or by his administration as to why they are saying we will not enforce the law against TikTok.

01:25:49.000 That's so weird.

01:25:50.000 I mean, it's not weird.

01:25:52.000 It's literally just the president likes TikTok.

01:25:55.000 And he believes that TikTok helped him.

01:25:57.000 So he's saying, okay, I'm going to make sure that the people that voted for me that like TikTok get their special interest.

01:26:04.000 I mean, it's weird in the aspect that it was made into actual law.

01:26:08.000 And it's like, nobody cares.

01:26:09.000 So even though we won, it's like, fine, we can do whatever we want.

01:26:11.000 Which I appreciate for the most part, but it's law.

01:26:15.000 It's law, Trump.

01:26:16.000 What are you doing?

01:26:18.000 Yep.

01:26:19.000 So if Trump comes out and says...

01:26:22.000 TikTok did X, Y, and Z, and for this reason, we will do A, B, and C. I'd go, oh, wow.

01:26:26.000 In this instance, though, TikTok, by Trump's own words, by Charlie Kirk's own words, has been threatening the data and the privacy of Americans, which we can't track, and has also been feeding an algorithm that's telling children to commit self-harm.

01:26:41.000 Conservatives get banned all the time and still do, and they've not explained to us why they're allowing it to continue operating despite its ban, except for the fact that, like...

01:26:49.000 Kellyanne Conway has reportedly been lobbying on their behalf.

01:26:52.000 So that's probably it.

01:26:54.000 Trump does have 15.2 million followers.

01:26:58.000 Wow, he's got just about the same as Dylan Mulvaney.

01:27:00.000 Really incredible there.

01:27:03.000 And Charlie Kirk came out, you know, was like praising TikTok earlier about praising TikTok to help getting Trump getting elected.

01:27:10.000 That really ticked me off because he says, yeah, I'll go TikTok.

01:27:12.000 You know, we did our best on TikTok.

01:27:14.000 Good job, Charlie.

01:27:18.000 Charlie's never given, as far as I've seen, a stated reason as to why his opinion 180'd.

01:27:23.000 So I do not respect it.

01:27:25.000 I respect Charlie greatly.

01:27:26.000 I think he's doing great work on this regard. 0.65

01:27:28.000 I will criticize him and Trump and everyone else because I don't want to live in this woke, leftist, garbage world where they say, just fall in line and do as we tell you.

01:27:36.000 So if you want to come out and get me on board with your TikTok, then you've got to explain exactly what happened. 0.96

01:27:42.000 And coming out and saying it helped Trump win is a lie.

01:27:44.000 It may have in some capacity, but we can still see that it largely feeds woke leftists to young people and takes their data.

01:27:51.000 None of this has changed.

01:27:52.000 The only thing that's changed, I guess, is there's a powerful conservative billionaire who's hiring lobbyists.

01:27:57.000 I don't play those games.

01:27:59.000 I've met a bunch of conservatives who have whispered to me, hey, man, thanks for staying consistent on the TikTok thing.

01:28:07.000 And I'm like, why are you whispering?

01:28:08.000 And they're like, nobody wants to step out of line. 0.99

01:28:12.000 It is pathetic. 0.78

01:28:14.000 There are tons of people that for no reason on Twitter just all of a sudden were like, I'm for TikTok now. 0.98

01:28:18.000 And I'm like, why?

01:28:19.000 And they're like, what do you mean?

01:28:20.000 I mean, you know, shouldn't we be worried about other things?

01:28:23.000 I'm like, no.

01:28:24.000 We can be worried about lots of things at the same time.

01:28:25.000 I'm worried about this, same as I'm worried about everything else.

01:28:28.000 We had action taken against us, and now we're giving this up.

01:28:31.000 You know what, LeBan?

01:28:32.000 I'll tell you what really bothers me here and why I'm so entrenched in this one.

01:28:36.000 We have been fighting a culture war for some 15 years to stop the woke indoctrination on these platforms, and we have just made major, massive gains with Mark Zuckerberg coming out going oopsie-daisy, the expansion of Rumble, Rumble's near-billion-dollar investment from Tether.

01:28:53.000 You've got X, you know, Elon buying Twitter, major victories in the tech space.

01:29:00.000 And then the right is now like, let's give it all up and give China and the woke the ability to maintain their control. 0.97

01:29:05.000 It makes literally no sense.

01:29:07.000 And it is basically saying, in this area where we actually have one of the biggest victories we've ever gotten in the culture war, we've literally shut down one of the biggest drivers of woke psychosis.

01:29:18.000 The platform that created Dylan Mulvaney, who went around to 13 million followers and did all of these TV shows, we actually got Democrats to agree to shut it down.

01:29:29.000 And then Trump said, I surrender.

01:29:31.000 I give up.

01:29:32.000 I give up.

01:29:33.000 You can have it!

01:29:35.000 And I'm like, wow.

01:29:36.000 That one pisses me off.

01:29:37.000 I agree.

01:29:38.000 TikTok wouldn't be lives of TikTok.

01:29:40.000 A lot of people wouldn't be who they are on social media if they weren't sharing TikToks from this weird, mental, deranged website that they're ruining our youth of society of America.

01:29:52.000 So, yeah, I agree. 0.68

01:29:53.000 F them.

01:29:54.000 I'm sorry.

01:29:55.000 I'm a swore again.

01:29:55.000 With Facebook, they're still censoring.

01:29:58.000 Yeah, whatever.

01:29:59.000 Instagram still censoring.

01:30:01.000 YouTube, of course, still censoring.

01:30:03.000 But we've made gains.

01:30:04.000 We've been fighting and we've pushed back and we're inverting it.

01:30:07.000 And now these big tech platforms, what do they do?

01:30:09.000 They donated money to Trump.

01:30:11.000 TikTok is still not within the confines of these victories.

01:30:16.000 It is still outside of our control. 0.98

01:30:18.000 It is still pushing this garbage. 1.00

01:30:20.000 And Trump says, so what? 1.00

01:30:22.000 Amazing.

01:30:24.000 Let me lay it on extra thick.

01:30:27.000 Let me lay it on extra thick.

01:30:28.000 Trump's trying to sue CBS for $20 billion.

01:30:31.000 Facebook has agreed to pay Trump, what is it, like $20 million, $25 million?

01:30:35.000 Trump is getting major concessions and forcing these companies to bend to him, and then Trump surrenders to TikTok.

01:30:40.000 Why?

01:30:42.000 That's a good question, Tim.

01:30:43.000 That's a very good question.

01:30:44.000 I would love to know that.

01:30:45.000 I'd love to know the answer.

01:30:46.000 I have no idea.

01:30:46.000 And Charlie, too.

01:30:48.000 People, what happened that it was such a bad thing a year ago, and now it's, oh, we love it, let's keep going.

01:30:53.000 Simply put, why should Facebook give Donald Trump $20 million and TikTok be given free reign to skirt a federal law that was signed by the president?

01:31:02.000 What did TikTok do that they don't gotta pay any money?

01:31:06.000 Shouldn't TikTok, for engaging in these behaviors, have to pay a penalty of some sort?

01:31:10.000 Shouldn't they be sued? 0.64

01:31:12.000 Isn't the TikTok company, though, that is here in the United States, aren't they separated from the CCP?

01:31:19.000 No.

01:31:19.000 There's nothing here in the United States, sir.

01:31:21.000 Singapore.

01:31:22.000 They're Singapore-based.

01:31:24.000 Well, they're a Singapore company, but one of their principal investors is ByteDance, which is China.

01:31:29.000 Well, you've got a lot of Chinese investors and a lot of American companies.

01:31:34.000 Sure do, and two things can be bad at the same time.

01:31:37.000 I agree.

01:31:38.000 I just think that if they're going to go after TikTok...

01:31:42.000 Then maybe they need to take a look at all these other corporations that are multinational corporations that have China heavily invested in them.

01:31:49.000 Absolutely we do.

01:31:50.000 Hey, Trump's putting tariffs on China.

01:31:52.000 You know, there is.

01:31:53.000 That's interesting.

01:31:54.000 He's largely complained about the trade deficit, but TikTok's getting a free pass.

01:31:58.000 Why?

01:32:00.000 Literally because they glazed his bagel.

01:32:04.000 They helped him get elected.

01:32:06.000 But did they really?

01:32:07.000 We don't know.

01:32:07.000 That's true.

01:32:09.000 Exactly.

01:32:11.000 We've never been given a legitimate reason other than he thinks he improved with young people.

01:32:15.000 Yeah.

01:32:15.000 And he's got people like Kellyanne Conway getting paid, reportedly, to say that to his face.

01:32:19.000 Well, I'm not sure.

01:32:20.000 I can't speak to whether or not Kellyanne Conway or any other people that have access to the president are speaking for pay on TikTok's behalf.

01:32:29.000 Maybe that is happening.

01:32:31.000 Maybe it's not.

01:32:31.000 I don't know.

01:32:32.000 But...

01:32:33.000 Donald Trump does do things like, I think these people like me, so I'm going to do nice things for them.

01:32:40.000 He's transactional, absolutely.

01:32:43.000 And I agree.

01:32:43.000 The farmlands, you know, China's the farmlands.

01:32:46.000 We can chew bubblegum and walk at the same time, my friend.

01:32:49.000 Yeah, I don't get this one.

01:32:51.000 Well, Kellyanne Conn, she registered as a foreign agent, didn't she?

01:32:55.000 What?

01:32:55.000 I think she did.

01:32:56.000 Really?

01:32:56.000 Yeah.

01:32:57.000 I saw an article about that a while back.

01:32:59.000 So she's obviously, she's representing the interests of China or something like that.

01:33:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:33:04.000 Ukraine.

01:33:04.000 That's crazy.

01:33:05.000 Oh, Ukraine.

01:33:06.000 And that's Ukraine.

01:33:07.000 It's probably still China going through Ukraine.

01:33:09.000 Could be.

01:33:10.000 Former Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway, this is New York Times as of August 5th of last year.

01:33:16.000 She's lobbying for Ukrainian interests.

01:33:18.000 Well, and if she's registered with the FAR, she could very well be lobbying on behalf of China, too.

01:33:23.000 It's a blanket.

01:33:26.000 So you could do anybody?

01:33:27.000 Yeah.

01:33:28.000 Interesting.

01:33:29.000 You just have to declare it and declare what nation.

01:33:32.000 So it probably would, if she's representing him now, it'll probably show up next year in the FAR registrations.

01:33:39.000 You know, Trump's an imperfect guy, right?

01:33:41.000 He does really good stuff.

01:33:42.000 His first term so far is beyond my wild expectations.

01:33:47.000 But he's also the guy that put Fauci on TV every single day and Birx.

01:33:50.000 Yeah.

01:33:51.000 He's made a lot of mistakes.

01:33:52.000 He's hired bad people.

01:33:53.000 And this tends to happen.

01:33:54.000 So you call him out and do something bad.

01:33:56.000 It is what it is.

01:33:56.000 We're still happy he's here.

01:33:57.000 And we still think he, along with Elon, are doing tremendously great things.

01:34:00.000 And I'm happy about it.

01:34:02.000 I just don't like, you know, give me a reason.

01:34:06.000 Give me any reason.

01:34:08.000 Don't see one.

01:34:11.000 I think it's all just about, you know, Donald Trump liking.

01:34:16.000 He thinks that they helped him, so he likes them, so he helps them back.

01:34:20.000 That's as deep as it is, I think.

01:34:23.000 It feels like it, bro.

01:34:24.000 It feels like it is.

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01:35:20.000 It is something totally separate.

01:35:22.000 Alright, what do we got?

01:35:24.000 We got Schlip who says, any chances you could get Larry Lawton on IRL or Culture War?

01:35:28.000 He's an ex-jewel thief who did his time and talks about abuses and process in prison.

01:35:34.000 Interesting.

01:35:35.000 Interesting.

01:35:36.000 Well, we can take a look.

01:35:36.000 No guarantees.

01:35:38.000 AlphaTurkey says, any 1,000 a month members yet?

01:35:40.000 If there are gold stripes added on the website, then I might consider.

01:35:43.000 Yes.

01:35:44.000 We did, in fact, get one sign up.

01:35:47.000 One person.

01:35:48.000 Do we know?

01:35:48.000 I feel like I might know who that is.

01:35:51.000 No, I don't think so.

01:35:52.000 Okay, it's not the gentleman who's always...

01:35:54.000 Nope.

01:35:54.000 Okay.

01:35:55.000 Remember, no guarantee that Tim returns your call.

01:35:57.000 Yeah.

01:35:58.000 Just get his phone number.

01:35:59.000 Well, so what we're trying to do to this new member is, the first thing is, because it was somewhat in jest, where it's like, I don't know, because the joke I was making was that the president needs access to my phone number, so we'll create the Trump tier, $1,000 a month, and then they can call me when they need me.

01:36:15.000 And then I said, I'll give you my number.

01:36:17.000 But I did sit.

01:36:18.000 So we will.

01:36:19.000 The first thing we're doing is we're going to have our members team reach out to the individual who did sign up and vet them.

01:36:25.000 Because we do have stalkers.

01:36:26.000 Good call.

01:36:27.000 We have stalkers and security threats.

01:36:29.000 So it has to be vetted.

01:36:29.000 I can't do anything about that because our security company, they've got rules and, you know, insurance, they have rules.

01:36:34.000 But, yeah, no problem.

01:36:36.000 You know, it seems that the person who signed up has been a member since we started the site.

01:36:41.000 So it seems to be like a long-standing member who just, you know, wants to reach out for whatever reason.

01:36:46.000 And likely what we will actually do is set up a time where I can talk to them and schedule something.

01:36:52.000 Because if my phone rings, I just turn it off.

01:36:53.000 Like, I literally never answer my phone.

01:36:56.000 And I have, you know, technically I don't have a phone.

01:36:59.000 Because there's like 17 phones that are used for a bunch of different things.

01:37:02.000 And sometimes I use it and sometimes other people are using it.

01:37:05.000 I gotta tell you guys.

01:37:07.000 When you're running a company of this size and else revenue coming in and how it's structured, you live in a different world.

01:37:14.000 I don't have a computer.

01:37:15.000 I don't have a laptop.

01:37:17.000 I don't have a phone.

01:37:21.000 Because you can't.

01:37:22.000 I have an email address.

01:37:24.000 I have two.

01:37:24.000 They're not really my email.

01:37:26.000 Other people do my email for me.

01:37:28.000 Well, I get a thousand emails per day.

01:37:29.000 It's literally impossible for me to go through it all.

01:37:32.000 And so I'm at the point where it's like, of course there's a phone in my hand.

01:37:37.000 Sometimes it is someone else's.

01:37:39.000 It's just whatever phone I happen to be using for whatever particular reason.

01:37:43.000 That's crazy.

01:37:44.000 That's why you never returned my email years ago.

01:37:47.000 I never returned anyone's.

01:37:48.000 And people are like, why don't you respond to my texts?

01:37:49.000 And I'm like, there's like 30 company phones all over the place.

01:37:53.000 Legit, when I want to, like, if I don't send a message in Slack...

01:37:56.000 I text Allison and say, hey, what's Tim doing?

01:38:00.000 It works wonders.

01:38:02.000 Allison's great.

01:38:02.000 Well, it's like, we have so many businesses.

01:38:05.000 Well, Allison runs everything. 0.99

01:38:06.000 I complain on camera, and then she makes the machine.

01:38:08.000 That's why I call her boss. 0.74

01:38:09.000 Yeah, me too.

01:38:10.000 She is the boss. 0.97

01:38:12.000 No offense, Tim, but yeah.

01:38:14.000 Well, I mean, like, it's a mom-and-pop media shop, and basically, I host shows, and I tell people where to stand, and then Allison is actually like...

01:38:23.000 Putting the gears in place and making the machine operate.

01:38:26.000 And so as the company expands and it gets crazier, and she's asking me how big it's going to get, I'm like, it's your fault.

01:38:33.000 Look at me.

01:38:35.000 I'm the one complaining on the camera, and then you make everything get bigger and run like a real business.

01:38:39.000 Because before she was here, it was just me yelling at the camera, you know what I mean?

01:38:43.000 But yeah, basically, I remember I thought about it at one point where I was like, I used to have a laptop.

01:38:50.000 I used to have a laptop.

01:38:51.000 And I would open up, I would play Civilization or Warcraft, and then I would do work on it.

01:38:56.000 And then it's been, I think, eight years since I've actually had a laptop.

01:39:03.000 Because I got to the...

01:39:04.000 So, going back to 2017, the laptops that I had, I ended up having...

01:39:09.000 They were only for work.

01:39:12.000 And because I'd have to bring them out when I was traveling the world, there was never any games on them.

01:39:17.000 There was never anything.

01:39:18.000 Nothing was on them.

01:39:18.000 It was Adobe Premiere.

01:39:19.000 And I had a desktop at home, so I'd sometimes play Civ there.

01:39:23.000 And then in like 2018, I had a desktop, which had Warcraft and some games on it and Hearthstone.

01:39:29.000 And then basically from that point forward, from about 2018, was when the computer I was using started getting used by other people.

01:39:36.000 And then probably by 2020, I didn't have anything.

01:39:40.000 I don't have a personal email.

01:39:42.000 Nope.

01:39:42.000 The emails that I have are open, and tons of people access them because they have to.

01:39:48.000 Yeah.

01:39:49.000 I also noticed this too.

01:39:50.000 Guys, I don't know who was doing it, but when I was out for dental work, somebody must not have realized that Slack on this machine is logged into me.

01:39:58.000 I see Phil nodding over there.

01:40:00.000 I know.

01:40:00.000 I knew the entire time.

01:40:02.000 So I get a message and I look on my phone, one of them, and someone's responding to me.

01:40:11.000 And I was like, I didn't say that.

01:40:12.000 And it's because I don't actually have a phone or a computer.

01:40:15.000 Somebody went on, saw a message, responded to it.

01:40:17.000 My profile was logged in.

01:40:19.000 It was definitely Kellen.

01:40:22.000 I kid, I kid.

01:40:23.000 I got a private message saying, how about this or whatever?

01:40:28.000 And I was like, yo, I never messaged you.

01:40:30.000 That was Kellen.

01:40:33.000 All right, all right.

01:40:34.000 Let's grab some super chats.

01:40:35.000 Right under the bus, Kellen.

01:40:37.000 Right under the bus.

01:40:37.000 Bump, bump.

01:40:39.000 All right, Jason Dixon says, Tim, I have a wonderful guest suggestion.

01:40:41.000 Hear me out.

01:40:42.000 AK and Scrapjaw from Roma Nation.

01:40:44.000 These people are from your community.

01:40:46.000 Great people.

01:40:46.000 Aren't we having Roma on tomorrow?

01:40:48.000 Friday.

01:40:49.000 Is that not tomorrow?

01:40:50.000 Yeah, Friday night.

01:40:51.000 Yeah, Roma's going to be here tomorrow.

01:40:53.000 Anthony Keith?

01:40:54.000 That's his real name.

01:40:56.000 Yeah.

01:40:56.000 I'm going to be swinging by Late Night because, you know, he's part of the OGs in Discord.

01:41:00.000 Guys, go to Discord.

01:41:01.000 It's a good community.

01:41:02.000 He's Launchpad.

01:41:03.000 Yeah, so just to clarify again, I know it's kind of confusing, but...

01:41:07.000 All of our exclusive content, the documentaries we're making, the behind-the-scenes content, it's all Rumble Premium.

01:41:12.000 But we have a Discord community of tens of thousands of people, and we, like, there was...

01:41:18.000 You know, I told Rumble guys, like, hey, look, we're not turning that off.

01:41:21.000 It has to keep functioning, it has to keep existing, it has to be able to grow, and we have to be able to hire the people and run it and maintain it.

01:41:25.000 And they were just like, yeah, of course, absolutely, totally cool.

01:41:27.000 And I was like, awesome.

01:41:29.000 So, it's...

01:41:31.000 It's great.

01:41:32.000 The Rumble guys have been, like, the best people to work with.

01:41:34.000 It's been really fantastic.

01:41:34.000 Shout-out to Chris Pavlovsky.

01:41:35.000 He's a good dude.

01:41:36.000 Yeah, just real quick, shout-out to the volunteers for the OG Rumble, because you guys, I mean, so the OG Discord folks, you guys really helped us get it off the ground.

01:41:45.000 And now you got Roma, you got QuietPart, Outloud Podcast, you got the call-ins.

01:41:50.000 A lot of the volunteers are freaking amazing over there.

01:41:52.000 Cool stuff!

01:41:53.000 And I'm really excited for the culture war. 0.75

01:41:56.000 Who you got?

01:41:57.000 Well, no, no, no.

01:41:58.000 I'm saying the culture war format is going to be, we're looking at venues right now.

01:42:01.000 We are going to have weekly shows where we invite people up to join the debate.

01:42:06.000 Yeah.

01:42:07.000 I would say consider it like, what did I say, Jubilee and Kill Tony combined.

01:42:11.000 Yes.

01:42:12.000 We didn't like how Jubilee has like a bunch of leftists just berate you.

01:42:15.000 There was that viral Ben Shapiro moment where it was just some leftist going, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah.

01:42:20.000 And it was just, he's like, you're not saying anything. 1.00

01:42:22.000 That's just stupid. 1.00

01:42:23.000 And they go, I owned you. 1.00

01:42:24.000 And I was like, that's really bad.

01:42:26.000 And then Kill Tony is awesome.

01:42:27.000 It's comedy.

01:42:28.000 It's really funny.

01:42:29.000 And I was like, well, we want to do debates.

01:42:31.000 So we like what Jubilee was doing, but we didn't like that they had unchecked rants for just screen time. 0.98

01:42:38.000 So we were like, we need to kind of hybridize it.

01:42:41.000 Have a rotating panel of people who are going to come and join the debate on the culture war while it's happening.

01:42:45.000 Get a few minutes to state their case, make their points, and then join the debate.

01:42:50.000 So whereas with Kill Tony, someone will do stand-up, and then they'll talk.

01:42:54.000 They'll like insult them or praise them.

01:42:56.000 Ours is you will sit down at the table and debate with you.

01:42:59.000 You will make your point and then we will debate with you.

01:43:02.000 So it's political similarities.

01:43:04.000 I feel like it's going to be a freaking blast.

01:43:06.000 It's going to be.

01:43:07.000 But it's going to be.

01:43:07.000 Yeah, it's a members only thing.

01:43:08.000 Yeah.

01:43:09.000 So we have to have security.

01:43:10.000 We have to have insurance.

01:43:11.000 We pay for the venue.

01:43:12.000 And in order to fund all that, that's why we have the Discord community.

01:43:14.000 And that's why, you know, you become a member at TimCast.com for 10 bucks a month.

01:43:18.000 You get into that community.

01:43:19.000 And then.

01:43:20.000 I'm not promoting as heavily right now because we want you all to join Rumble Premium to watch the Uncensored stuff.

01:43:24.000 Once the Culture War show is happening, it's going to be all promoted through that, basically.

01:43:29.000 So when we're there, we're going to be like, guys, make sure you join the Discord to come sit in.

01:43:33.000 We have a venue right now, 60 seats.

01:43:34.000 Yes.

01:43:35.000 Is what we're looking at.

01:43:36.000 You need an emcee?

01:43:37.000 I did a really good job in Milwaukee.

01:43:39.000 I think we're going to rotate various people from the show and stuff like that.

01:43:43.000 It'll be cool.

01:43:43.000 Cool.

01:43:44.000 All right, let's go.

01:43:47.000 I'm sorry, Scott.

01:43:52.000 Weimar Germany was very woke with gender studies and trans research.

01:43:55.000 The first Nazi book burning on May 6, 1933 targeted the Institution for Sexual Science destroying Jewish Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld's work.

01:44:04.000 Interesting.

01:44:06.000 I've heard that quite a bit.

01:44:07.000 People have talked about it.

01:44:08.000 All right.

01:44:09.000 What do we have here?

01:44:12.000 Let's see.

01:44:14.000 Vic the Fix says, Now that we're in the weeds and rooting out the wasteful spending and fraud, we need to get Congress to pass a single-issue voting bill when we can.

01:44:22.000 Indeed, indeed.

01:44:24.000 I hope so.

01:44:25.000 Very much so.

01:44:27.000 Death Magnet says, If Trump wants to help 2A, he needs to sign an executive order declaring the NFA of 1934, the GCA of 1968, and the Hughes Amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 all unconstitutional.

01:44:39.000 Yep.

01:44:40.000 Agreed.

01:44:41.000 Completely agree.

01:44:45.000 Rain says, how the heck does Kentucky have arguably one of the best senators and arguably one of the worst senators at the same time?

01:44:53.000 Who's the other guy besides Mitch?

01:44:54.000 Way too long.

01:44:56.000 Rand, right?

01:44:57.000 Oh, yep.

01:44:58.000 Is it Rand?

01:44:59.000 Rand Paul's the senior senator from Kentucky.

01:45:01.000 That is crazy.

01:45:02.000 Senior senator is. 0.94

01:45:04.000 That is nuts.

01:45:05.000 Yeah.

01:45:06.000 They just vote for R. It is funny.

01:45:07.000 Rand is like...

01:45:08.000 The best.

01:45:09.000 McConnell is the worst.

01:45:10.000 They see an R by your name, and they vote for it, and they know it, apparently.

01:45:14.000 Well, you see what happened was, Kentucky doesn't want to vote against Mitch McConnell because they feel bad for him because, you know, he falls a lot.

01:45:21.000 So, in order to make up for it, in order to make up for sending us such an awful senator, they said, we'll give you Rand Paul, though it bounces out.

01:45:27.000 There you go.

01:45:28.000 And then it's like, ah.

01:45:29.000 Kentucky, step up your game. 0.98

01:45:31.000 No more Mitch McConnell or brain-dead folks.

01:45:34.000 He's retiring, isn't he? 0.93

01:45:35.000 He's got to be.

01:45:37.000 Otherwise, I don't think he'd be voting the way that he's voting.

01:45:40.000 Fix yourself, that's all.

01:45:44.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:45:47.000 Joe Spinell says, There's multiple reasons I haven't filed an income tax since 2010. Yes, I've responded to every letter kindly asking them for a bill of receipt or a list of damages to settle privately.

01:45:56.000 Haven't heard from them now for five years.

01:45:58.000 That's interesting.

01:46:00.000 I don't know why you would call into a regularly watched show like Tim Cass and say that, but more power to you.

01:46:09.000 Well, like I was saying, I had a friend who said they got a bill from the IRS saying they owed money, and they responded back with, okay, prove it.

01:46:17.000 They didn't say it like that.

01:46:18.000 They said, thank you for your correspondence.

01:46:20.000 Can you send any related documents showcasing this income and the expense?

01:46:24.000 And the IRS said, oops, sorry, never mind, and left.

01:46:27.000 That's the end of it.

01:46:27.000 I like that.

01:46:28.000 That's great advice.

01:46:29.000 Well, I mean, I got advice for everybody.

01:46:31.000 They say that if you ever get a debt collector...

01:46:33.000 It's not financial advice, though, right?

01:46:34.000 Is that what we say?

01:46:35.000 I don't know.

01:46:37.000 Let's just say no.

01:46:38.000 But as other people have said before, when debt collectors call you, you just tell them, like, can you send me whatever you have on file showing this debt?

01:46:48.000 It's a good call.

01:46:49.000 Yeah, I got a funny story for you.

01:46:51.000 Sprint is an awful company.

01:46:54.000 Sprint once changed the terms of their contract substantially.

01:46:57.000 And this was back in like 2013. I had Sprint.

01:47:00.000 And I got an email or something.

01:47:02.000 I heard what happened.

01:47:03.000 And it said that we are changing our terms of service.

01:47:07.000 If you do not respond, you hereby agree to the new contract.

01:47:10.000 And so I called them and said, hey, I don't agree to this.

01:47:13.000 Which means I would get out of my contract at the time.

01:47:15.000 Phone contracts were a thing.

01:47:16.000 They don't really do it anymore.

01:47:16.000 And they said, yeah, sorry, too bad.

01:47:18.000 And I said, no, not too bad.

01:47:20.000 I am telling you, I do not agree to the new terms.

01:47:22.000 And they said, too bad.

01:47:23.000 And I said, okay, consider the contract terminated.

01:47:27.000 I will not agree to this.

01:47:27.000 And they said, we're going to put it on your credit.

01:47:29.000 And they did.

01:47:30.000 And they filed against my credit.

01:47:32.000 I actually got a hit on my credit because they changed the contract I did not agree to.

01:47:36.000 So I was waiting for it.

01:47:38.000 As soon as it hit, I went to, I think it was probably like Equifax.

01:47:41.000 And it's TransUnion Equifax.

01:47:43.000 And what's the other one?

01:47:43.000 Experian.

01:47:44.000 And I said, I hereby challenge this.

01:47:46.000 Instantly won.

01:47:47.000 It was like, what is the purpose?

01:47:49.000 And I said, I wrote that the contract had been terminated as per U.S. law.

01:47:57.000 There is no debt incurred.

01:47:59.000 They are mistaken.

01:48:00.000 They can file whatever they want.

01:48:01.000 All the credit reporting agencies removed it.

01:48:04.000 You know, that's an interesting idea.

01:48:06.000 How about Congress pass a bill that says the credit companies have to prove...

01:48:13.000 The receipts in order to put something on there.

01:48:15.000 Because right now, you're basically guilty until you prove your innocence.

01:48:19.000 Yep.

01:48:19.000 That's BS. But then the other thing is, after seven years, they disappear anyway.

01:48:24.000 Sure.

01:48:25.000 Let's go.

01:48:28.000 Marky Mark says, Tim, I have been selectively targeted in the Discord.

01:48:31.000 False accusations of being a Fed because one of your moderators was restricted on the Discord level.

01:48:36.000 I had nothing to do with this, and getting banned and threatened dogpiled is wildly inappropriate.

01:48:40.000 I have emailed you.

01:48:41.000 I have no information on this, good sir.

01:48:43.000 I've not heard any of this.

01:48:46.000 I will ask my team to look into it.

01:48:48.000 But what I can do is say, I apologize sincerely.

01:48:56.000 There is a reality to a lot of this stuff, and it is unfortunate when we get messages from people where they're like, hey, I've been trying to reach out to membership and I'm not getting support.

01:49:03.000 And it's like, the hard reality is we are trying as hard as we can.

01:49:07.000 And it's not that we don't like you or we're ignoring you.

01:49:10.000 It's that...

01:49:10.000 We're juggling all these plates, and sometimes spam folders get it.

01:49:15.000 I will be honest.

01:49:17.000 I have to be honest, guys.

01:49:19.000 A majority of the emails we get from support are akin to, did you try plugging your computer in?

01:49:27.000 We get a lot of those.

01:49:29.000 Where, like, again, I'm not trying to rag on anybody, but we'll get a lot of people where it's like...

01:49:35.000 They'll say, I've been having problems.

01:49:36.000 I can't log in.

01:49:37.000 And then it's because they entered.

01:49:39.000 There's a typo in there.

01:49:40.000 Here's an example.

01:49:41.000 When they typed their email in, it had a typo.

01:49:43.000 And then the Google auto form saved it.

01:49:45.000 But then it kicked them back saying it's not working.

01:49:48.000 And then every time they tried logging in, they would just use the auto form again.

01:49:51.000 They would leave the email and then try redoing the password, not understanding what's going on.

01:49:54.000 And then we were like, that email's incorrect.

01:49:57.000 And so we get that a lot.

01:49:59.000 Not that we in any way are trying to disrespect people when it happens to them.

01:50:02.000 It's just, it's common, and then it takes up a lot of time for our support staff to try and get through all of it.

01:50:09.000 So, it is tough.

01:50:11.000 It's funny because a lot of people, like, they'll get really mad at us, and I'm like, dude, like, we're going as fast as we can with all of this.

01:50:17.000 Nobody's ignoring you.

01:50:18.000 It's like, somebody's here from 9 to 5, and then they go home to their families and their children.

01:50:23.000 It's like, we're trying to figure it out.

01:50:25.000 We need to hire more people.

01:50:26.000 You know?

01:50:26.000 We're getting there.

01:50:27.000 We're getting there.

01:50:27.000 I can vouch as the blue-collar fellow here that, yeah, there's a lot.

01:50:31.000 People are trying, man.

01:50:32.000 Well, let's just, we'll have you deal with this.

01:50:34.000 Do you know about what's going on with this Marky Mark guy?

01:50:36.000 No, I have zero ID, Tim.

01:50:37.000 I'm too busy working on a friend over here.

01:50:41.000 We should deputize Raymond for solving our Discord problems.

01:50:44.000 I mean, I can, I guess.

01:50:48.000 I've been there since day one.

01:50:52.000 You are here by Discord Sheriff.

01:50:54.000 Okay. 0.79

01:50:55.000 I should have shut up.

01:50:58.000 What, you don't want to be Sheriff?

01:50:59.000 I mean, I'm okay with it.

01:51:01.000 Yeah.

01:51:01.000 He's like, all this responsibility and power, it's gonna go to my head.

01:51:06.000 Alright.

01:51:07.000 The Oracle says the Fed is against the Constitution since Congress are the ones enjoined to coin the currency.

01:51:12.000 The Treasury in 1913 was never ratified by the states.

01:51:15.000 It isn't legal.

01:51:16.000 Interesting.

01:51:18.000 Well, I don't know nothing about that.

01:51:21.000 But check out Game of Money on Marble Premium, our feature-length documentary by Ben Stewart about how money works.

01:51:26.000 It's very interesting.

01:51:28.000 Fletcher Boy says, so when are you moving to Nashville, Tim?

01:51:30.000 I'll buy from your skate shop.

01:51:32.000 We're not.

01:51:33.000 We're in West Virginia. 0.99

01:51:34.000 I'm hoping that they fix the stupid Uber laws, and I hope the people of West Virginia hear this, the politicians, because I know that they're listening. 0.98

01:51:41.000 And with all due respect, we've lost three people because of the restrictions put on us over this, and it's ridiculous because there's no circumstance where we could have hired them. 0.99

01:51:51.000 It's absolutely insane.

01:51:53.000 Okay?

01:51:53.000 I don't want to say too much because I want to violate the privacy of the individuals who have decided to part ways.

01:51:58.000 But if there is somebody who makes paintings, and we don't, and they are being told by the state to start a company and, you know, fill all this stuff out and they're like, I don't do enough work in the state to care about this.

01:52:12.000 And then they're like, I'm just sorry, I'm not interested.

01:52:16.000 Super annoying.

01:52:18.000 All right.

01:52:20.000 Let's grab some more while we're here.

01:52:23.000 Juan Castillo says, sell a Keurig variety pack.

01:52:25.000 I don't know which one I want.

01:52:27.000 Banish the IRS. I don't want to pay taxes.

01:52:29.000 Get Lupe Fiasco on.

01:52:31.000 Woof, woof, woof. 1.00

01:52:32.000 Interesting.

01:52:32.000 Lupe Fiasco.

01:52:33.000 My friends used to listen to stuff all the time.

01:52:35.000 Don't we have Keurig variety packs on Casper.com?

01:52:37.000 I know you have Keurig.

01:52:38.000 I don't know if you have variety packs or not.

01:52:40.000 Really?

01:52:41.000 We don't.

01:52:41.000 I thought we did.

01:52:42.000 That's a really good point, and we should.

01:52:45.000 So as it is written, so shall it be done.

01:52:48.000 We will get on that.

01:52:50.000 Guys, Casper's doing really well.

01:52:53.000 It's been a great venture.

01:52:54.000 It's one of our most successful ventures.

01:52:57.000 We've got over 100, now more, franchise location inquiries.

01:53:03.000 Some of them are light, but many of them are straight-up legit.

01:53:07.000 A handful of people are light.

01:53:09.000 I've got a big savings.

01:53:09.000 I've got a retirement account.

01:53:10.000 I've got investment money.

01:53:11.000 We want to open a shop.

01:53:13.000 Some people have said, we're actually planning on opening a shop.

01:53:15.000 We'd love to do it with you because the...

01:53:18.000 Basically, let me tell you.

01:53:20.000 We have a lot of plans.

01:53:21.000 I can't say too much because, you know, it's Chef Andrew Gruul, the famous Chef Andrew Gruul, who's basically running and managing that side of things for us.

01:53:28.000 It's an honor and a privilege.

01:53:30.000 Andrew Gruul's amazing.

01:53:31.000 And he knows how to do this stuff.

01:53:33.000 What I'm hoping to do, and again, I'm not saying this definitively, but when a new location opens, we go there and we do the grand opening night, Timcast IRL from the new locations.

01:53:44.000 That's the hope and the dream.

01:53:47.000 And the reason I'm saying it kind of loosely is because I don't know what I'm allowed to say.

01:53:51.000 You know, Chef Gruel might be like, there's restrictions on how and when we can do things like that, but it would be really cool.

01:53:56.000 It'd be really, really cool.

01:53:58.000 And I don't want to be the owner of a corporation that has a thousand buildings.

01:54:02.000 We want to create something that we can help people set up, and then you own the business.

01:54:07.000 So, that's the plan, man.

01:54:10.000 Alright.

01:54:12.000 Tcouch says, Tim, check out Nick Freitas' channel with Chris Hennies.

01:54:16.000 Take on the dollar demand versus the dollar surplus on the world market.

01:54:20.000 Interesting.

01:54:21.000 Yeah, next cool dude.

01:54:22.000 Very cool dude.

01:54:24.000 Cole Stackman says, watch the Dems spin this as Trump and Elon target IRS during tax season affecting middle class Americans.

01:54:30.000 That's exactly what they did.

01:54:32.000 Your refund is going to be affected.

01:54:36.000 All right.

01:54:37.000 Not About says, USS Harry Truman crashed into a merchant ship off the coast of Egypt hours ago.

01:54:42.000 Thank God Trump is driving recruiting numbers up.

01:54:44.000 We need more competence.

01:54:46.000 Wow.

01:54:47.000 What was that all about?

01:54:48.000 I don't know.

01:54:50.000 Yeah, crazy.

01:54:51.000 Fear Me 16 says, did you see what Trump said today about talks with Russia and China to reduce spending on defense by 50% and to reduce nukes worldwide?

01:55:00.000 I did!

01:55:00.000 It is very based.

01:55:02.000 I don't trust China, though.

01:55:04.000 Do not trust.

01:55:05.000 Isaac Vanderbilt says that he is a proud white American nationalist.

01:55:08.000 So what?

01:55:10.000 Yeah, I don't care.

01:55:11.000 I agree.

01:55:12.000 It was a funny thing when, like, white nationalists are doing their thing, and I'm like, not a fan, don't like them, but the issue is not so much if someone came to me and then they said that they thought America should be for white people, and that's about it, I'd be like, okay.

01:55:25.000 Like, am I gonna cry about it?

01:55:27.000 I don't care.

01:55:28.000 You know, my response is typically you'll be hard-pressed to convince a mixed-race man that you are correct, but sure. 1.00

01:55:34.000 The issue I have largely is with annoying people who are obsessive.

01:55:38.000 So it's...

01:55:39.000 If someone comes to me and says they're a white nationalist, I'll be like, we can have the debate, sure. 0.86

01:55:43.000 But if someone comes to me and says they're a white nationalist, and then they keep banging their fists on the table screaming at the Jews, I'm like, bro, I'm not interested in your obsessions. 0.69

01:55:50.000 This is weird.

01:55:51.000 I am a nationalist, and I so happen to be white, but I just, I love America, so I feel like everyone should be supportive of their country, sir.

01:56:02.000 It's so weird that they tried making nationalist a bad thing.

01:56:05.000 Yes, it's pride for your country, pride for your nation.

01:56:07.000 Well, they want people to be globalist.

01:56:09.000 But the funny thing is, they said globalist was an anti-Semitic slur.

01:56:12.000 Legit, they did.

01:56:13.000 And then they also claimed that being a nationalist was bad.

01:56:16.000 I'm like, then what are you?

01:56:18.000 Like, are you for a global community or a national community?

01:56:22.000 Well, you can't say the globalist.

01:56:23.000 That's a slur.

01:56:24.000 It's like, okay.

01:56:24.000 Maybe they're a transnationalist.

01:56:26.000 There you go.

01:56:29.000 I mean, that is the appropriate word, to be honest.

01:56:33.000 All right, let's go.

01:56:34.000 Druid Arrow says, Constitution already has the three-fifth clause.

01:56:37.000 Use it to change it or add it to it.

01:56:39.000 We were having a conversation in the green room, and someone said that the 13th Amendment abolished slavery, and I said, no, it didn't.

01:56:47.000 It explicitly legalized it.

01:56:49.000 The 13th Amendment of the Constitution explicitly legalizes slavery.

01:56:53.000 Didn't ban it.

01:56:55.000 That's why Kanye – I think it was Kanye who said he wanted to abolish or revoke or whatever.

01:57:02.000 And people then said he was trying to bring back slavery, and he was like, no, read it.

01:57:08.000 It says it bans slavery unless convicted of a crime.

01:57:12.000 Let me pull this up because this is really fascinating.

01:57:16.000 It kind of was the first person I heard this say get rid of the 13th.

01:57:19.000 Amend it.

01:57:20.000 So it says this.

01:57:23.000 Okay, let me actually pull it up.

01:57:26.000 Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the U.S. or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

01:57:36.000 Do you know what that means?

01:57:37.000 That means that you can be prosecuted and subjected to involuntary servitude if it's through due process.

01:57:47.000 Do you know what that means to the average person?

01:57:51.000 It means if you jaywalk, we can enslave you. 1.00

01:57:55.000 Explicitly legalizing slavery in this country and how it will be operated.

01:57:58.000 It says crime where you've been duly convicted.

01:58:02.000 When you plead guilty to a speeding ticket, they now have the legal right to enslave you.

01:58:07.000 Of course, we're not doing that.

01:58:08.000 It's not going to happen.

01:58:09.000 But that's an important distinction to make.

01:58:11.000 The thing is, it's so that way, and I'm not saying that I endorse this, but it's so that way when you're put into prison.

01:58:18.000 They can make you work in prison.

01:58:20.000 Right.

01:58:21.000 Making license plates.

01:58:23.000 Or whatever.

01:58:25.000 Busting rocks.

01:58:25.000 You know, I've talked to a few people in jail, and they can't actually make you do the work.

01:58:29.000 Really?

01:58:30.000 Yeah, I can't remember who I was talking to about it.

01:58:32.000 I don't want to say the wrong person, but there is an individual, I believe, who told me it.

01:58:36.000 But again, if I'm wrong, I'd rather not besmirch their name.

01:58:38.000 But they basically said, if you don't want to work, you just don't.

01:58:42.000 They won't even bother with it.

01:58:44.000 It's that people want to work because they're bored.

01:58:47.000 So when given an opportunity to go do something, they'll say, yeah, I'll go do it.

01:58:49.000 Like, the people who fight wildfires for California, it's like, you will get to go outside and travel around, and you'll get to eat fast food, and they're like, yeah, I want out of here, you know?

01:58:59.000 Yeah, being in a concrete block cell is never the best time.

01:59:05.000 Rachel Napstein says, Tim, I filed my taxes last Saturday and got my Fed returned today.

01:59:09.000 That's the fastest I ever got them back.

01:59:11.000 Go Elon!

01:59:12.000 And by the way, abolish the IRS. Hey, good stuff.

01:59:15.000 Indeed, indeed.

01:59:18.000 Patra says 50% of Democrats in Congress were not voted in.

01:59:21.000 Is that a reference to, like, D-plus districts, or what do you mean?

01:59:25.000 Like, areas where they run unopposed, largely, because people just vote Democrat no matter what?

01:59:31.000 I'm a Democrat now, my friends.

01:59:34.000 I've, from where I live in Harrisburg, no, seriously, where I live in Harrisburg, I have zero say in the primary at all.

01:59:41.000 And a lot of times, Republicans don't even run, so it's just, like, straight D. You live in Maryland?

01:59:47.000 Harrisburg.

01:59:48.000 Oh, my bad.

01:59:49.000 Alright, last one here.

01:59:50.000 We got Christina who says, Tim, if they ban TikTok, they have precedent to ban RT, Telegram, and others.

01:59:54.000 They already banned RT. Would Rumble be next?

01:59:56.000 RT and Telegram are Russian, aren't they?

01:59:59.000 Hope you will respond to this.

02:00:01.000 RT already got banned, and the law specifically states a platform with over a million users that allows people to do this, that it's like, it's specifically TikTok.

02:00:10.000 I do think we should consider scale.

02:00:14.000 I don't care if some guy has three cows and sells raw milk.

02:00:17.000 I care, however, if there's a giant factory that replaces all of their milk with unpasteurized milk without telling people.

02:00:23.000 Scale matters.

02:00:25.000 It's not a big deal when one guy does it.

02:00:26.000 It is a big deal when thousands do it.

02:00:28.000 Or like when a major corporation, I mean, does it.

02:00:30.000 So the issue with TikTok is, sure, there are a lot of apps run by Iran, China, Telegram, you know, these things like Telegram.

02:00:37.000 The question is, how much is their impact?

02:00:41.000 Telegram doesn't have an algorithmic feed that sends you Dylan Mulvaney.

02:00:45.000 So I'm not really all that concerned about it.

02:00:47.000 The argument that if we...

02:00:50.000 I don't accept this argument where they say, if we let them ban TikTok, maybe they will ban some other good thing.

02:00:55.000 And it's like...

02:00:57.000 So you're saying let them do evil because they might do more evil?

02:01:02.000 I'm confused.

02:01:03.000 How about we focus on individual actions and say, TikTok is bad for these reasons we want to ban.

02:01:07.000 But what about the farmland?

02:01:09.000 We'll deal with that next.

02:01:10.000 That's on the back burner, too.

02:01:12.000 But then maybe they'll ban X. We'll tell them no and won't let them do that.

02:01:16.000 It's really that simple.

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