Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - DOJ Drops MASSIVE Epstein COVER UP, Says There's NO CLIENT LIST | Timcast IRL

00:02:26.000 A leaked memo from the DOJ says there is no Epstein client list.

00:02:31.000 Whatever do you mean?

00:02:32.000 It also says there's no evidence that would predicate any criminal investigation into any third parties relating to anything that Ghelane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein had done.

00:02:42.000 And for the sake of transparency, we're going to put out a full video, 11 hours, of showing no one entering or leaving the SHU.

00:02:53.000 So that was the leak.

00:02:54.000 Now I have for you officially pulled up from justice.gov the memo on the government's website where you can click the link and watch the video on the government website where, well, for one thing, Pam Bondi said the client list was on her desk.

00:03:09.000 Now, when Fox asked her about this, I believe it was today, Carolyn Levitt said she was referring to all of the documents related to Epstein.

00:03:16.000 Sure.

00:03:16.000 Shell said there was tens of thousands of videos, so where are those videos?

00:03:20.000 And then here's the crazy part.

00:03:22.000 We looked through, not all of, but some of the video released by the DOJ.

00:03:27.000 At the 1158 minute mark, there is a minute cut from the footage.

00:03:32.000 And then a guy walks in, opens a door, and walks through it.

00:03:36.000 So I have no idea what that video footage is supposed to be.

00:03:38.000 This story is very weird.

00:03:41.000 No one signed the memo.

00:03:42.000 We have no idea why.

00:03:43.000 It's on the justice.gov website.

00:03:44.000 Nobody's issued any statements.

00:03:47.000 Strange.

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00:08:26.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:27.000 Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.

00:08:28.000 We've got this from axios.com.

00:08:30.000 Exclusive DOJ, FBI conclude Epstein had no client list and died by suicide.

00:08:36.000 As we all suspected, the DOJ would claim later on.

00:08:41.000 Anyway, they say President Trump's Justice Department and FBI have concluded they have no evidence that convicted sex offender had disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed powerful figures, kept client list, or was murdered, according to a memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios.

00:08:51.000 The administration is releasing a video in both raw and enhanced versions that it says indicates no one entered the area of the Manhattan prison where Epstein was held the night he died in 2019.

00:08:58.000 The video supports the medical examiners finding that Epstein died by suicide.

00:09:01.000 The two-page memo claims.

00:09:02.000 Okay, let's stop right there.

00:09:04.000 So this memo comes out, and we end up with all these crazy tweets.

00:09:10.000 Everybody's pissed off.

00:09:11.000 And one of the arguments that people were making is that the memo is fake.

00:09:14.000 Indeed, it is not real.

00:09:16.000 It was signed by nobody.

00:09:18.000 Okay, well, I have the memo for you right here, justice.gov.

00:09:23.000 You can plainly see it.

00:09:25.000 I'm going to highlight this right now.

00:09:26.000 See me?

00:09:27.000 There we go.

00:09:28.000 I'm going to press enter.

00:09:29.000 There it is.

00:09:29.000 I pressed enter.

00:09:30.000 There's the memo.

00:09:31.000 The memo reads, As part of our commitment to transparency, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have conducted an exhaustive review of investigative holdings relating to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:09:39.000 To ensure that the review was thorough, the FBI conducted digital searches of its databases, hard drives, and network drives, as well as physical searches of squad areas, locked cabinets, desks, closets, and other areas where responsive material may have been stored.

00:09:50.000 These searches uncovered a significant amount of material, including more than 300 gigabytes of data and physical evidence.

00:09:54.000 The files relating to Epstein include a large volume of images of Epstein images and video of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors and over 10,000 downloaded videos and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography.

00:10:05.000 Teams of agents, analysts, attorneys, and privacy and civil liberties experts combed through the digital and documentary evidence with the aim of providing as much information as possible to the public while simultaneously protecting victims.

00:10:15.000 Much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing.

00:10:18.000 Only a fraction of this material would have been aired publicly had Epstein gone to trial, as the seal served only to protect victims and did not expose any additional third parties to allegations of illegal wrongdoing.

00:10:27.000 Through this review, we found no basis to revisit disclosure of those materials and will not permit the release of child pornography.

00:10:34.000 The systematic review revealed no incriminating client list.

00:10:37.000 There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions.

00:10:41.000 We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.

00:10:46.000 So the issue is the videos they claim to have, they can't show because of the victims, and there are no, in the tens, what is it, over 10,000 videos, no third parties that could in any way have criminal charges laid against them.

00:11:01.000 That, I believe, is what most people find hard to believe.

00:11:04.000 Now, there is a bit of misconception.

00:11:06.000 There are many misconceptions going around.

00:11:07.000 One, that people think it's fake, and also that it claims Epstein and Maxwell did nothing wrong.

00:11:12.000 It quite literally says in the second paragraph, yo, it's pretty bad.

00:11:16.000 But the idea that there's no client list is an absurdity.

00:11:20.000 We are not claiming that Epstein created a client list.

00:11:25.000 The argument, at least as far as I can tell, is there is a list of clients, meaning there are names of individuals who flew to his island and engaged in these things with him.

00:11:35.000 Those names would be written down and called a list of clients.

00:11:39.000 Now, here's what I want to do, because we could certainly read more, but they say that they have footage.

00:11:44.000 They say the conclusion that Epstein died by suicide is further supported by video footage from the common area of the special housing unit where Epstein was housed at the time of his death.

00:11:52.000 As DOJ Inspector General explained in 2023, anyone entering or attempting to enter the tier where Epstein's cell was located from the SHU common area would have been captured by the footage.

00:12:01.000 The FBI's independent review of this footage confirmed from the time Epstein was locked in his cell at around 10.40 p.m. on August 9th, 2019, until around 6.30 a.m. the next morning, nobody entered any of the tiers of the SHU.

00:12:13.000 During this review, the FBI enhanced the relevant footage by increasing its contrast, bouncing color, and improving its sharpness for greater clarity, viewability.

00:12:20.000 The full raw and enhanced views are available at the following link.

00:12:23.000 I'm going to click that link.

00:12:25.000 And okay, so here's the video.

00:12:28.000 And as you can see, all right, I have no idea what these doors are.

00:12:31.000 I have no idea what I'm looking at.

00:12:32.000 But hey, other people noticed this very interesting little tidbit.

00:12:36.000 Let's jump to 115845.

00:12:41.000 Take a look at the bottom left and the timestamp.

00:12:44.000 In 10 seconds, what we're going to see is the footage will jump and skip over one whole minute.

00:12:52.000 Three, two, one.

00:12:54.000 Not even one.

00:12:55.000 Jeez.

00:12:56.000 So then you can see it changes, and now it's jumped forward, the frame has changed, and there is a minute of footage missing.

00:13:03.000 if we jump forward, hey, look at that.

00:13:05.000 Hey, did the garbage can just move?

00:13:06.000 Oh, that's right.

00:13:07.000 Here comes some guy.

00:13:09.000 Some guy actually.

00:13:11.000 Why did that?

00:13:11.000 How did that move?

00:13:12.000 Did he move it?

00:13:14.000 That's clearly not as unedited as they would.

00:13:19.000 Not only is it actually edited, but it shows a guy walking in one of the rooms.

00:13:24.000 I don't know what that room is.

00:13:26.000 So what is the purpose of this video?

00:13:28.000 Honestly.

00:13:29.000 And there we go.

00:13:31.000 Hey, look.

00:13:31.000 Here's somebody entering the tier.

00:13:35.000 Okay, but he leaves.

00:13:37.000 Where does that door go?

00:13:38.000 Is that door leaving?

00:13:40.000 So here's a video of a guy walking in.

00:13:43.000 Throwing stuff into this, what I imagine is a hallway.

00:13:47.000 Totally is.

00:13:47.000 Maybe it's a cell.

00:13:49.000 I don't think you walk into and out of cells like that.

00:13:51.000 But here he is.

00:13:52.000 He's entered.

00:13:52.000 Where's he going?

00:13:53.000 Okay, so here's a guy who just entered the tier or the room or whatever that was.

00:13:59.000 And then I think if we jump back a little bit, actually, isn't there somewhere just past?

00:14:06.000 Here you go.

00:14:06.000 Here's a guy going in.

00:14:09.000 So let me just say, they're not claiming Epstein did nothing wrong.

00:14:13.000 They actually say that he did, but they're claiming he had no clients, no evidence of third-party wrongdoing.

00:14:20.000 And everyone's basically saying, yo, that's ridiculous, highly unlikely.

00:14:25.000 And the video footage they put out makes no sense.

00:14:28.000 It's edited.

00:14:29.000 There's people coming and going.

00:14:30.000 I don't understand what they were trying to claim.

00:14:33.000 There's another video, file two, which I guess shows the same thing.

00:14:40.000 Does this also have a minute missing from it?

00:14:42.000 Because there's two files.

00:14:44.000 None of the release.

00:14:46.000 It does.

00:14:46.000 It's the same thing.

00:14:47.000 It's been released.

00:14:47.000 Yo, check it out.

00:14:48.000 None of it does anything to satisfy people that are curious about what happened.

00:14:54.000 Regardless of what your opinion is, whether you think that Epstein killed himself or he was murdered or whatever, the information that's been released does nothing but muddy the waters more and make people doubt the reliability of an organization that already has serious problems with credibility.

00:15:14.000 So I feel like this is pointless and did all it did was make things worse.

00:15:19.000 Also, how many movies have we seen where you've got 60 seconds of camera blackout to get in and get out?

00:15:26.000 Yeah, right?

00:15:27.000 Right.

00:15:28.000 Am I the only one?

00:15:29.000 It's the whole plot of gone in 60 seconds.

00:15:30.000 It's literally in a time.

00:15:31.000 I don't know what the plot is.

00:15:32.000 At least in movies, you know?

00:15:34.000 Yeah, they'll say like you have one minute and like 12 minutes later in the movie.

00:15:37.000 60 seconds starts now.

00:15:40.000 And it takes 10 seconds for them to do whatever they have to do.

00:15:43.000 And we see two people, one coming and one going.

00:15:46.000 So I got to say, this is weird.

00:15:49.000 The memo was not signed by anybody.

00:15:51.000 So here's the memo.

00:15:52.000 Again, is that justice.gov?

00:15:54.000 It is on their website.

00:15:55.000 No one signed this.

00:15:56.000 No one put their name on it.

00:15:57.000 Who wrote this?

00:15:58.000 Why is it on their website?

00:16:00.000 This is very, very weird.

00:16:04.000 I'm trying to come up with predictions and probabilities in my mind of what the play was here.

00:16:11.000 First is Hanlon's razor.

00:16:13.000 Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.

00:16:16.000 Perhaps the DOJ was just like, how do we make people drop this without actually exposing powerful billionaires and princes and kings and politicians?

00:16:26.000 Let's just claim it never happened.

00:16:28.000 Here's my favorite thing about this.

00:16:30.000 Remember phase one of the Epstein release?

00:16:32.000 Yeah.

00:16:33.000 Phase two apparently is there's nothing.

00:16:35.000 Thank you and have a nice day.

00:16:36.000 Yeah, I mean, the whole thing, like the first thing was like everybody got egg on their face and now they're like the phase two, they're just like, you know, we're going to take some more, you know, some more eggs and just smash them faces.

00:16:47.000 Here you go.

00:16:48.000 This is from justice.gov as well.

00:16:50.000 Attorney General Pamela Bondi releases first phase of declassified Epstein files.

00:16:55.000 The first phase of declassified files, there's no second phase.

00:16:58.000 Why did they call it that?

00:17:00.000 Why didn't they call it the only phase?

00:17:04.000 It doesn't make any sense to me.

00:17:06.000 So anyway, here's the point.

00:17:08.000 Nobody signed this memo.

00:17:09.000 So Hanlon's razor.

00:17:10.000 They're just like, we don't know how to get past this story.

00:17:14.000 So let's just claim it never happened.

00:17:16.000 And we won't really release it.

00:17:19.000 We'll give it to the press, put it on the website, and then no one will say anything about it.

00:17:24.000 I mean, that seems to be the highest probability.

00:17:28.000 But that being said, the end result, if I were to assume that the people at the DOJ were smart, at least smart enough, if they can think beyond the first order, then they'd probably say, hey, what happens after we do that?

00:17:44.000 To which the response is, well, if you put out video footage, it's missing a minute, showing two people coming, one person coming and one person going, no one signs the document, you will make the conspiracy substantially crazier.

00:17:56.000 Because now people are wondering, what the heck was the point of this?

00:17:58.000 All this does is just give me more questions that I want answered, honestly.

00:18:03.000 It feels like there was a fight behind the scenes, having nobody owning it, nobody signing it, nobody's holding a press conference about it.

00:18:13.000 That means there was some kind of, they couldn't come to an agreement.

00:18:17.000 They just had to get past it.

00:18:18.000 It's a hot potato.

00:18:19.000 I don't want to touch it.

00:18:20.000 I don't want to hold it.

00:18:21.000 But wait, there's more.

00:18:23.000 First, let me highlight this.

00:18:25.000 Bondi says Epstein client list sitting on my desk right now and is reviewing JFK and MLK files.

00:18:31.000 Okay.

00:18:31.000 So we have this.

00:18:33.000 Fox News's, was it Peter Doocy asked about this?

00:18:37.000 And Carolyn Levitt clarified, she didn't mean the client list.

00:18:40.000 She meant all of the documents.

00:18:42.000 And okay, I'm going to give him that one.

00:18:44.000 Basically, she was asked on Fox News about the client list and she goes, it's all on my desk.

00:18:48.000 It's sitting on my desk right now.

00:18:50.000 So the media reported that, what did she say?

00:18:53.000 It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

00:18:55.000 That's been a directive by President Trump.

00:18:58.000 So she was saying it in reference to the client list.

00:19:01.000 But the argument now is, no, no, I meant all of the Epstein stuff.

00:19:04.000 Okay, fine.

00:19:05.000 Check this out.

00:19:06.000 ABC News published this on July 1st.

00:19:09.000 Mystery surrounds the Jeffrey Epstein files after Bondi claims tens of thousands of videos.

00:19:14.000 They go to mention the comments made to report at the White House days after a similar remark to a stranger with a hidden camera raised the stakes for President Trump.

00:19:21.000 Yet weeks after Bondi's remarks, it remains unclear what she was referring to.

00:19:24.000 The AP spoke with people involved as lawyers or law enforcement officials, examining the cases, and a social like Gillian Maxwell, who said they hadn't seen or didn't know of a trove of recordings like what Bondi described.

00:19:36.000 Indictments and detention memos do not reference existing videos of Epstein with children and blah, blah, blah.

00:19:42.000 Why did ABC and the Associated Press run a story outside of the news cycle with no predicate incident?

00:19:52.000 Let me clarify this.

00:19:53.000 Sometimes opinion websites looking for content and board will pick up a social or cultural issue and then run it even if it's old.

00:20:02.000 It is uncharacteristic of ABC News and the AP to do this as they are not supposed to be, especially the AP opinion websites.

00:20:12.000 So why did the AP decide abruptly to just write a story claiming that's strange, Pamela Bondi is wrong.

00:20:20.000 There are no videos or any evidence one week before this strange unnamed memo and weird video get dropped.

00:20:27.000 I call this a fluffer story.

00:20:29.000 I view it largely as having worked in newsrooms.

00:20:32.000 It's primer for a future event.

00:20:35.000 It makes no sense.

00:20:36.000 Look, man, tell me they're going to go, they'll call me crazy.

00:20:39.000 They have to.

00:20:40.000 But I've been in editorial meetings for numerous companies, various media outlets as friends and as employees.

00:20:47.000 And the meetings always start with, what's the story?

00:20:51.000 What's going on?

00:20:52.000 It does not start with, hey, is there anything that we can write about that's not in the news cycle where we'll have unnamed anonymous sources make claims about a political issue that we can't back up?

00:21:02.000 So why did ABC write this one week ago?

00:21:08.000 No, I mean, look, none of this makes any sense to me.

00:21:10.000 Yep.

00:21:11.000 At all.

00:21:12.000 So then my next thought is, okay, well, if the DOJ is smart, is this the desired outcome?

00:21:19.000 Did they want people like me and others to be saying this?

00:21:24.000 One of the conspiracies is that they brought all of these conservative influencers to the White House, gave them all these binders that they all held up and smiled.

00:21:35.000 They were brought outside in front of the press, and now they're all being discredited, saying, you latched onto this narrative, you were wrong, it was a lie.

00:21:44.000 To be fair, at the same time, you know, I don't really believe that, by the way, but Cash and Dan are being largely discredited as well, as well as Pam Bondi.

00:21:51.000 So I have no idea what this is or what's really going on.

00:21:55.000 I think the best estimate, sorry, just the best estimate is, I think Cernovich is saying this.

00:21:59.000 What do you think they were doing the past several years?

00:22:02.000 The reason there's no evidence is not that Pam and Cash and Dan are covering it up.

00:22:06.000 It's that the Democrats covered it up a long time ago.

00:22:11.000 I mean, there's no evidence left for them to get to.

00:22:14.000 Exactly.

00:22:15.000 So they just burn, bided their time.

00:22:19.000 I have no idea.

00:22:20.000 I mean, there's obvious, there's the popular narratives, which are, you know, Trump is, from the Democrats at least, Trump is implicated.

00:22:30.000 So Donald Trump said to Cash and to Dan Bongino and A.G. Bondi to make it go away.

00:22:36.000 It won't come out because Donald Trump is in there.

00:22:38.000 There's the idea that all the information was actually scrubbed a long time ago because this is, you know, what he died in, was he, he died in, what, 22?

00:22:49.000 Was it, I think, something like that?

00:22:50.000 21.

00:22:51.000 21 or 22.

00:22:52.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:22:54.000 And the previous administration got rid of all of the information.

00:22:59.000 But neither of those are particularly satisfying.

00:23:03.000 And I don't know that there's any evidence to validate either of those stories.

00:23:11.000 There's circumstantial evidence, but there's nothing solid.

00:23:15.000 So, I mean, I have no idea that.

00:23:17.000 Would it have even been in the previous administration's best interest to scrub that evidence?

00:23:23.000 Well, the other conspiracy theory is that in 2020, there was a plot to steal the election from Trump because they wanted to go in and clean all this up.

00:23:34.000 I don't know that I, you know, we can just talk about the 2020 election and say there's a lot of weird things about it.

00:23:39.000 Now, Cash has released information that there was a Chinese plot to produce fake mail-in ballots.

00:23:46.000 We don't know where that's going.

00:23:47.000 The DOJ at the time covered that up, saying that, you know, or I should cover it up.

00:23:52.000 They refused to investigate the lead.

00:23:54.000 So there are questions about what really happened in terms of foreign influence.

00:23:58.000 Maybe we'll never know.

00:23:59.000 Certainly some people think weird and crazy things.

00:24:03.000 I think ballot harvesting and changing the rules through judges and governors was how it was largely pulled off.

00:24:10.000 But the argument would be that Democrats got in by any means necessary, even if it was going to be Joe Biden, because they wanted to go into the DOJ and go in the FBI offices and get rid of any incriminating evidence.

00:24:20.000 Yeah, but there's an awful lot of reasons why the Democrats want to win that election.

00:24:25.000 Other than covering your tracks is, whoa, covering up your tracks is just fine.

00:24:32.000 Opening the borders for four years and flooding in 10 million people? 0.61

00:24:35.000 Reconstructing America, reconstructing the world.

00:24:38.000 I mean, they've got a pretty big agenda.

00:24:40.000 They think in their minds, the reason they're covering up for themselves is because they're going to save the world.

00:24:46.000 Yeah.

00:24:48.000 They really do.

00:24:49.000 In the way that the emperor was trying to save the galaxy, you know what I mean?

00:24:53.000 Yeah.

00:24:54.000 We do have this before we wrap up that I want to highlight this tweet from Certovich from 2019.

00:24:59.000 Jeff Epstein's butler kept a detailed log of Epstein's crimes.

00:25:03.000 Epstein's butler tried selling this information, which the FBI admitted was damning.

00:25:09.000 Prosecutors gave Epstein a free pass, however, and indicted the butler for trying to sell the information.

00:25:16.000 How about them apples?

00:25:19.000 You know what, man?

00:25:21.000 I'm starting to see a lot of people say things like, you know what?

00:25:24.000 I don't care about the Epstein story.

00:25:26.000 We lost.

00:25:27.000 They destroyed the evidence a long time ago.

00:25:29.000 Let's focus on Trump's agenda and what we can do.

00:25:32.000 I half agree with that.

00:25:34.000 Half.

00:25:35.000 I understand.

00:25:37.000 The reality is powerful forces in government probably destroyed this evidence a long time ago, 2020.

00:25:46.000 And we're chasing our tails and wasting time with that being reality.

00:25:51.000 That being said, I think they're handling this miserably.

00:25:54.000 And there is a way to deal with it, if that is the case.

00:25:57.000 And that is, from the get-go, they should have said, It is not so simple as to just release this.

00:26:03.000 Sorry, we're still investigating.

00:26:05.000 And look into anyone who may have destroyed evidence.

00:26:08.000 Pam Bondi put out that letter saying the FBI was withholding evidence from her.

00:26:12.000 They should have said this is going deep and it's getting weird.

00:26:16.000 And if we want to get these prosecutions, we need to investigate properly.

00:26:19.000 But if that's not the case, then this whole thing just poorly, poorly done. 0.97

00:26:25.000 It stinks, but from the position of someone that's watching from the sidelines, there's not a whole lot we can do except for just be like, you know, shitting, like, what the hell? 0.55

00:26:38.000 Which it's my understanding that that's what they've been doing this entire time anyway, since this administration started was just kind of holding off, you know, like we don't have it yet. 0.95

00:26:48.000 We don't have it yet.

00:26:48.000 We're looking, we're looking, we don't have it yet.

00:26:50.000 Why now?

00:26:51.000 Like, why all of a sudden, okay, you know what?

00:26:53.000 We're just going to out this with what we've got, you know, even if it doesn't really sell the marker and no one's going to sign it.

00:27:00.000 Like, it came from no one.

00:27:02.000 What does that do for you or anyone else or the American people for that matter?

00:27:06.000 Possibly in a few months, they'll try running the narrative that Epstein?

00:27:11.000 Oh, what do you what?

00:27:12.000 The DOJ put out the thing saying that was all, that was all hubbub.

00:27:14.000 What do you mean?

00:27:14.000 Don't you remember that?

00:27:15.000 And the videos?

00:27:16.000 They put it.

00:27:17.000 And then we will be like, no, that's not correct.

00:27:20.000 But the average person will only passively absorb the information.

00:27:23.000 And we'll go, didn't like Trump come out and say that he's committed suicide or something?

00:27:28.000 You'll be like, no, but no, I heard it was like Trump said it.

00:27:32.000 Shrug.

00:27:33.000 Yeah.

00:27:33.000 There you go.

00:27:34.000 There's going to be a whole lot of people just being like, palms up, this doesn't make any sense.

00:27:38.000 Obviously, there are people that are really upset.

00:27:40.000 There are people that are saying that this, you know, they regret their vote, which I think is way overboard.

00:27:45.000 I mean, just the, you know, we're going to go on to stories about ICE raids and about, you know, the positives of immigration reform and stuff like that in a few minutes.

00:27:56.000 And that alone, in my opinion, was reason enough to vote for Trump.

00:28:00.000 Let me ask you, Yoram.

00:28:04.000 Here's what I think happened with the Epstein list.

00:28:07.000 I think Epstein did this.

00:28:08.000 I think Epstein was blackmailing powerful people.

00:28:12.000 I think many of these people were probably princes, politicians, prime ministers.

00:28:16.000 Prince Andrew, of course, was already implicated.

00:28:19.000 He's apparently, that's it.

00:28:20.000 That's the Epstein client list.

00:28:21.000 One, Prince Andrew.

00:28:22.000 Two, nobody else.

00:28:23.000 I think he did it.

00:28:25.000 And I think the reason the U.S., even under Trump, will not release it is that there's going to be powerful CEOs.

00:28:31.000 When they get outed, their companies will start collapsing.

00:28:33.000 The stock value will drop.

00:28:35.000 There's going to be alliances and foreign leaders.

00:28:38.000 And it's going to cause political tumult in a bunch of different countries.

00:28:43.000 I think that the U.S. government, Pambondi, Dan Bongino Cash, they get in there, they see the evidence, and they went, how many companies will this destroy?

00:28:55.000 And they're like, a couple dozen, right?

00:28:57.000 When the CEOs are outed as being on this island with this guy, their stock is going to cut in half.

00:29:02.000 What about foreign world leaders?

00:29:04.000 There's a lot of them too.

00:29:05.000 It could dissolve, it could destroy international trade lines and throw the world into chaos.

00:29:11.000 We're talking about the world's most powerful elites.

00:29:13.000 And so then the powers that be within the government, even the ones we like, are going, we have no choice but to just shut this down.

00:29:23.000 Do you see that as making sense?

00:29:25.000 Or am I crazy to think that's the greater probability of what happened?

00:29:28.000 No, I think it makes some sense.

00:29:30.000 I think, look, there's a lot of people.

00:29:34.000 I personally, there's plenty of people who are on that island.

00:29:37.000 Dirtbags, I would love to see the Clintons or Eud Barak.

00:29:43.000 I mean, there's plenty of people. 0.98

00:29:45.000 No, seriously, just I would love to see them get in drugs. 0.87

00:29:48.000 So was Barack on the island?

00:29:49.000 I think he was on the island.

00:29:51.000 I'm sorry.

00:29:52.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:29:54.000 The Israeli press is always running pictures of him visiting Epstein in Manhattan.

00:30:00.000 I don't actually know if he was on the island.

00:30:01.000 Trump flew on the plane.

00:30:02.000 Elon said Trump was on the list.

00:30:04.000 Now the list is getting covered up.

00:30:06.000 Yeah.

00:30:06.000 Look, if you're Donald Trump right now, okay, I mean, I think the argument you're making, it makes some sense, but it also makes sense to look at it from a different direction.

00:30:18.000 You know, Trump, he has this taste for pictures, you know, with him getting photographed with a whole lot of little girls, women around him.

00:30:28.000 He likes to be a protector.

00:30:30.000 He says, I'm going to protect women whether they want it or not.

00:30:35.000 He thinks it's important as a man, as president, as the leader of the world.

00:30:41.000 He thinks it's important for him to be moving towards peace, moving towards justice.

00:30:45.000 And I can easily see, in addition to the economic mess you're talking about, if it's not possible to get indictments, if it's not possible to have a serious debate about all these different kinds of world figures without bringing in, you know, who knows, hundreds, hundreds of then underage girls, you can just, I don't know, you can see him saying, this is all dirt.

00:31:14.000 It's going to consume the next two years.

00:31:17.000 There's no way to get to the end of it.

00:31:19.000 And my agenda's gone.

00:31:20.000 Like, you know, he's old enough.

00:31:22.000 He remembers the way that Ali North and the Iran affair, right? 0.94

00:31:30.000 Two years of Reagan's presidency down the drain, and you never got to the bottom of it.

00:31:34.000 And he could just be thinking, well, what do I get out of this?

00:31:38.000 What does America get out of this?

00:31:40.000 Let me ask all you guys.

00:31:42.000 If you were given evidence of Epstein's client list and it included business magnates, world leaders, and they said, you make the choice to publish this, but it will sever alliances of the United States.

00:31:56.000 It will potentially spark civil unrest in numerous countries.

00:31:59.000 It will destroy several Fortune 500 companies, potentially sending the U.S. market into a crisis or depression.

00:32:07.000 Would you do it?

00:32:09.000 Would you release all the information to the world?

00:32:15.000 I mean, there's no question that you have a moral obligation to, but we're talking about balancing the scales here in a situation where the scales are seemingly unbalanceable.

00:32:27.000 You know, like, do you take the moral high ground and say we need to release this because the public has a right to it, or do you allow everything to be maintain the stability?

00:32:37.000 How do you make that call?

00:32:38.000 I'm of two minds, right?

00:32:39.000 First of all, there is a human cost in that kind of course of action, right?

00:32:48.000 If it destroys global markets, if it causes a bunch of chaos, there are going to be a lot of people that are going to lose their lives.

00:32:55.000 There's a lot of people that'll die.

00:32:56.000 There is a direct correlation between the GDP of a country and how many people die per year.

00:33:02.000 That is undeniable.

00:33:04.000 Now, that alone would make some people say, no, it's not worth it.

00:33:09.000 Just because of the lives it saved.

00:33:11.000 Now, there's already people, the people that were trafficked, their lives are already ruined, destroyed.

00:33:16.000 And if you out the people that have done the destroying, and this is a hypothetical, of course, but if you out the people that have done the destroying and it does more damage, then it's not worth it because you have a net loss of life and it only makes things worse.

00:33:30.000 That being said, there's also the possibility that that kind of shock to the system could allow for restructuring of significant problems that we have in the U.S. and globally.

00:33:42.000 So I don't know what I would do personally, and I'm glad that I don't have to make that call, but the people that are like, oh, I'm Rorschach from The Watchmen, I would say just let it out.

00:33:52.000 Like, there's a human cost.

00:33:54.000 I do it.

00:33:55.000 Well, I mean, there you go.

00:33:56.000 Not really.

00:33:58.000 That actually is a very good comparison, in my opinion, because that's it.

00:34:02.000 That is.

00:34:02.000 It's a Rorschach situation, totally.

00:34:04.000 I completely agree.

00:34:05.000 Okay, so just so you've got somebody.

00:34:07.000 I wouldn't.

00:34:09.000 You would.

00:34:09.000 No, I just look, I think we sent Trump in there.

00:34:16.000 He's surrounded by good guys.

00:34:18.000 People, you know, when Cash Patel when he was appointed, there was weeks where everybody was trying to cover up things.

00:34:30.000 I mean, they were just tearing their hair out.

00:34:32.000 Cash Patel can't go in there.

00:34:33.000 It's just the end of the world.

00:34:35.000 So we sent him in.

00:34:36.000 We sent Bongino in.

00:34:37.000 These are people who, look, I know people are cynical about this, but this is representative government.

00:34:44.000 You and I can't go in to the archives at the FBI.

00:34:48.000 We don't have any way of doing that.

00:34:49.000 We send people who we trust.

00:34:51.000 We're not going to get better people than this.

00:34:52.000 We sent the best people.

00:34:54.000 I mean, this is just, this is a government that wants to clean up, to drain the swamp.

00:35:00.000 We'll never get a better government than this.

00:35:02.000 If these people go in and they say, look, this is what we've got.

00:35:08.000 Look.

00:35:09.000 I think it's an addiction and it's a moral sickness.

00:35:12.000 And, you know, there are similarities.

00:35:15.000 For those that are not familiar with the Watchmen comic, basically what happens is the villain stages a global catastrophe to force the Russians and the U.S. to align themselves, ending the Cold War.

00:35:27.000 Rorschach, one of the quote-unquote heroes, more of an anti-hero, says, no, the world must be told the truth.

00:35:33.000 And Dr. Manhattan says, you will cause nuclear annihilation if you tell them the truth.

00:35:38.000 And he goes, never compromise. 0.99

00:35:39.000 So Dr. Manhattan, superhero, blows him up, kills him. 0.94

00:35:43.000 My view is what kind of world will come tomorrow if elite billionaire pedophiles get away with what they've done? 0.97

00:35:53.000 We know they got away with what they've done.

00:35:55.000 You're not preserving anything but a moldy piece of cake.

00:35:58.000 You can say the American experiment resulted in this delicious, moist vanilla cake with cream cheese frosting and salted caramel swirls.

00:36:07.000 And at this point, it is moldy and disgusting.

00:36:09.000 And the argument is, but we still have cake.

00:36:12.000 If there are elite, powerful individuals that have done what they've claimed to do, it sickens me to think they're sitting there with their feet up going, I am so important, I can do whatever I want without consequence, and the message that sends.

00:36:23.000 Now, here's a reality about law.

00:36:26.000 Let's say you're a small town business magnate.

00:36:29.000 You live in an area of 2,000, 3,000 people, and you own the local brake pad factory.

00:36:36.000 You're the CEO and you're caught, I don't know, with some ladies of the night. 0.99

00:36:40.000 You don't go to jail.

00:36:42.000 You don't get charged.

00:36:43.000 Never happens.

00:36:44.000 Because the cops will see you and they'll go, oh no.

00:36:48.000 The mayor, their boss will say, do you have any idea what will happen to this town if you arrest this man for the crimes he committed?

00:36:54.000 It's a victimless crime.

00:36:56.000 Just do nothing.

00:36:57.000 Okay.

00:36:58.000 He was him and some lady.

00:36:59.000 We know it's illegal.

00:37:01.000 If you're in the small town and you get arrested and go to jail, and that puts the big factory at risk, jobs could be lost and the town could go under.

00:37:08.000 So they protect you.

00:37:10.000 This is true at all scales.

00:37:12.000 The bigger you are and the more powerful you are, the more likely it is they will not charge you because of concerns of how it will disrupt everything else.

00:37:19.000 So when you are the CEO of a big tech company or you are a prince or a prime minister, their attitude is, it is better that we shut this thing down, tell them never again, and just walk away from it.

00:37:33.000 And what that means is tomorrow, the next day, the day after that, the narrative we have set, the world we have created is you can be the most evil of evil men and you'll get away with it because you're powerful.

00:37:45.000 That means if you want to be evil, make sure you do evil in scale with how much power you've attained.

00:37:51.000 I reject that.

00:37:54.000 I know I can recognize it's easy to say.

00:37:56.000 This is like raging against the human condition, though, because there's always been people in high levels of power, high levels of authority that essentially can get away from, you know, that are above the law.

00:38:07.000 I mean, when you're dealing with royalty, currently, there, you know, there's royalty.

00:38:12.000 That's true.

00:38:13.000 Yeah.

00:38:14.000 But I mean, the United States and the idea that everybody is subject to the law is novel in human history.

00:38:23.000 And it has always been where people that are wealthy, people that are in positions of power have the ability to escape the repercussions of the laws that they break.

00:38:33.000 So that's just that's so the idea that this will solve anything, that in the future this wouldn't happen again, I don't think that's the case.

00:38:43.000 No, I think there's definitely a hierarchy there too, because you'd see this with sports figures and things like that and actors and stuff like that, where it's almost like it seems like it's a win for them to be like, oh yeah, this guy totally DUI last night, you know, and was caught with three prostitutes and, you know, a pound Of cocaine in his trunk.

00:39:01.000 That's a win for them because while he may be a multi-millionaire, he's not in that higher bracket of people that it's going to change anything.

00:39:08.000 It almost seems like it's worth it for them to out something like that because it shows, hey, we're still doing our job, even though these guys are rich.

00:39:15.000 Look, it makes me sick just like it makes you sick.

00:39:19.000 Like every normal person is going to be sickened by the thing you're describing.

00:39:22.000 I just think that if you are Donald Trump, he's got his eyes laser focused first before anything else, the border, the immigration situation.

00:39:33.000 Second, reshoring factories, the economy.

00:39:38.000 That's the reason that he's hanging out in the Middle East with all of these chics. 1.00

00:39:42.000 He doesn't like this.

00:39:43.000 He's doing it because he wants to bring those trillions to the United States because he thinks he's going to save it.

00:39:47.000 And he just doesn't want to get derailed.

00:39:54.000 We don't exactly know what evidence he has or doesn't have.

00:39:56.000 And I understand the argument that Trump is focusing on his agenda.

00:39:59.000 But I suppose the implication with your argument is that you are saying you believe Trump knows these pedoes, knows who they are, and won't arrest them.

00:40:05.000 Tim, someone in the chat mentioned Blackstone's formulation, the idea that one, it's better that 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person suffer.

00:40:15.000 How do you square that with the idea of outing this people?

00:40:19.000 Because these people, they go free for breaking the law, and it saves lives.

00:40:24.000 Formulation was never let evil men do things so that random other people are safe from life.

00:40:30.000 It's not, it's not safe.

00:40:31.000 Blackstone's formulation is talking about the government exercising its authority over individuals to cause them suffering.

00:40:37.000 If the truth causes you suffering, that is reality.

00:40:44.000 If you were born in South Sudan, your GDP is $400, and that's not my fault.

00:40:49.000 No, it's not your fault.

00:40:50.000 So if there are elite, powerful pedos that are running big companies and exposing the evil causes downstream bad things to happen, that is not me exercising authority to destroy your life.

00:41:00.000 That is just you are in the stream of evil.

00:41:03.000 Well, I mean, that's, I don't know that they're in the stream of evil.

00:41:07.000 The people that you're punishing, well, they deserve it, right?

00:41:12.000 That's not Blackstone's formulation.

00:41:13.000 What?

00:41:14.000 No, but I'm just using the...

00:41:15.000 I'm not saying it's the exact same thing, Well, okay.

00:41:20.000 That's a perfectly legitimate point to make.

00:41:22.000 The idea that I'm going to be like, listen, I can't arrest this murderer because he has three small children.

00:41:28.000 Think about the suffering they'll have by not having a dad.

00:41:30.000 Nah, he goes to jail.

00:41:32.000 This idea that we have with the immigration thing.

00:41:34.000 Oh, you can't deport these people.

00:41:36.000 They have children who were born in America.

00:41:38.000 They committed a crime.

00:41:39.000 This is the penalty.

00:41:40.000 We're giving them a ride back to their home country. 1.00

00:41:42.000 And if the kids want to go with them, they can.

00:41:43.000 But think about the suffering the kids will endure back home in Honduras.

00:41:47.000 That is not my fault.

00:41:49.000 That is not me exercising authority to punish them.

00:41:52.000 Blackstone's formulation is if the government is choosing to incarcerate you and deprive you of your rights with the potentiality that you are an innocent person, that is what it seeks to avoid.

00:42:03.000 You're completely right.

00:42:05.000 What if the reality is that they cannot make any of these cases?

00:42:11.000 They know who they might go after.

00:42:12.000 They can't make any of these cases without bringing all these women who were children at the time. 1.00

00:42:17.000 Without that, without years of this, there's no way to put these people away.

00:42:24.000 It's not that nobody cares.

00:42:26.000 It's just that they look at the trajectory.

00:42:30.000 What are we going to have to do in order to get there?

00:42:32.000 It's not just publishing a list.

00:42:33.000 Of course.

00:42:34.000 It's like, what do we have to do to get there?

00:42:35.000 And they say, we can't.

00:42:38.000 This can't be what we spend the next two years on.

00:42:41.000 Indeed, when the Snowden files got released to, was it Laura Poitras, Glenn Greenwald, a few others, they trickled it out.

00:42:51.000 And I think they did it for personal gain.

00:42:53.000 I think they thought we can sit on this trove of documents, slowly releasing things over time, and we will have content for years.

00:43:01.000 Got big investors, started a company.

00:43:03.000 I, along with everyone else, said, just dump all of it.

00:43:07.000 Just release it.

00:43:08.000 Now, I don't completely agree with Snowden's releasing of the documents as well because he was a leaker, not a whistleblower.

00:43:12.000 There's a big difference.

00:43:13.000 In his leaking, we gained information about illicit government programs.

00:43:18.000 Whistleblowing is, here's a specific program that is illegal.

00:43:22.000 That being said, once the information was out, I said, just release it.

00:43:26.000 Like, just do it.

00:43:28.000 Like, the idea you're going to sit and wait for it, I would say probably 80 or 90% of all that information was just forgotten about.

00:43:34.000 People moved on.

00:43:35.000 They didn't go through it.

00:43:37.000 You could have decentralized the release.

00:43:39.000 You could have, or even at the very least, find a happy medium split up amongst different people.

00:43:43.000 I think the challenge there ultimately, though, was redaction.

00:43:46.000 So it is what it is.

00:43:48.000 In this regard, I am sick and tired of this, but won't anyone think of the evil?

00:43:53.000 But won't anyone think of the evil people?

00:43:56.000 They're sitting there saying we must live in a world.

00:43:59.000 Like, let me put it this way.

00:44:01.000 Perhaps the reaction to all of this is China wins. 0.98

00:44:04.000 We destabilize ourselves by releasing this information of the Americans that were under blackmail.

00:44:08.000 Then this causes market problems that China doesn't face.

00:44:11.000 And Trump's saying, there's no way I'm going to let America suffer because these sickos, that I understand.

00:44:18.000 But I think ultimately the question is, what nation do you build? 0.83

00:44:24.000 I don't know that I would have, let's just call it whatever you want, the strength of moral character to protect a bunch of powerful globalist, elitist pedophiles for the sake of the vision of your nation.

00:44:36.000 I'd just be like, those people, we got to do it.

00:44:41.000 They got to go to jail.

00:44:42.000 They got to get locked up.

00:44:43.000 They got to get arrested.

00:44:43.000 And it's not a question of creating a plan to arrest them.

00:44:46.000 It's saying, here you go, everybody.

00:44:47.000 Take a look.

00:44:48.000 Figure it out.

00:44:49.000 But that being said, let's jump to the next story.

00:44:51.000 Ladies and gentlemen, major raids taking place in Los Angeles.

00:44:56.000 Iconic City is grinding to a halt as ICE raids send its many migrant workers into hiding.

00:45:03.000 So we've got these videos that are popping up.

00:45:05.000 Take a look at this with Mayor Karen Bass.

00:45:13.000 Who did you speak with on the phone just now?

00:45:15.000 Who did you speak with on the phone?

00:45:20.000 I am going to say.

00:45:21.000 Mayor Bass, I need to get the phone.

00:45:23.000 We're departing.

00:45:26.000 Mary Bass.

00:45:27.000 Mayor Bass.

00:45:28.000 Thank you.

00:45:30.000 Yes, my comment is they need to leave and they need to leave right now.

00:45:35.000 They need to leave because this is unacceptable.

00:45:41.000 I am so happy, so, so happy to see all of this.

00:45:44.000 There was a viral tweet, several, in fact, over the weekend.

00:45:48.000 Traffic on the 4th of July in LA, none.

00:45:52.000 All the highways were green.

00:45:54.000 People were shocked.

00:45:55.000 There's videos of construction workers, full teams, running full speed at the construction sites.

00:46:01.000 And they tell me I should care, and I don't know why.

00:46:04.000 They're not going to convince me to care.

00:46:06.000 This is massive.

00:46:08.000 It's what the American people voted for.

00:46:10.000 Trump's now got more funding for this.

00:46:12.000 I think ICE is now one of the biggest law enforcement operations departments in the country.

00:46:19.000 And we are seeing real tangible effects in Los Angeles as these criminal aliens are fleeing and many of them self-deporting.

00:46:27.000 Yeah, the downstream effects of Trump's policies regarding the border and regarding ICE and stuff like that, they're starting to manifest.

00:46:35.000 And I think that the positives that people haven't thought of are going to really shock them.

00:46:43.000 The idea that traffic is in LA, I mean, I don't know how many people.

00:46:48.000 Well, we don't need the EVs anymore.

00:46:51.000 We don't need electric vehicles.

00:46:52.000 We don't need self-driving autonomous electric vehicles because traffic has alleviated itself.

00:46:55.000 Well, I mean, fair enough, but I still like my Tesla.

00:46:58.000 No, you're allowed to have one.

00:46:59.000 I'm just saying the idea that all of this traffic is causing a big problem, so we need to get rid of cars.

00:47:06.000 Not anymore.

00:47:06.000 Not only that, but like the visits to the emergency room.

00:47:09.000 If you've got people that are here illegally, they're not going to a primary care to see a specialist when they have something wrong. 0.99

00:47:17.000 They're going to go to the emergency room and they're going to be like, hey, I've got this problem.

00:47:20.000 Makes the wait time significantly.

00:47:22.000 They're not lining up outside the welfare offices or the food pantries or anything like that because they're just not here.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, the services that the American people depend on are going to see significant lightening of the load.

00:47:38.000 We were just in Chicago, and when we landed, Brandon was like, we better get to the hotel right away, otherwise traffic's going to get real bad.

00:47:43.000 And then we drove on the highway and it was a straight shot.

00:47:45.000 I also didn't know that they had postponed all of the festivities until the day after the 4th.

00:47:51.000 Everything that I thought we were going to see traffic for that day, we didn't until the following week.

00:47:55.000 Well, speaking of immigration, Chicago doesn't do fireworks anymore.

00:47:59.000 That blew my mind.

00:48:01.000 The Chicago fire.

00:48:02.000 Why is that?

00:48:04.000 Well, the arguments I hear is, but Navy Pier does fireworks.

00:48:08.000 It's a private thing.

00:48:09.000 Navy Pier has generic Wednesday-Saturday fireworks.

00:48:12.000 Chicago, as a city, used to do a 4th of July ceremony.

00:48:16.000 We'd all go down to the lake.

00:48:18.000 Everybody would line up and they'd watch.

00:48:20.000 Now it's non-descriptive holiday period.

00:48:24.000 And Navy Pier has fireworks, but they always have fireworks, so it's not a special moment.

00:48:29.000 Because they don't want to celebrate America.

00:48:31.000 Well, these are fireworks.

00:48:31.000 They figured out over the lake, too.

00:48:33.000 So I wonder if it's kind of a jurisdictional thing as well where they're allowed to shoot them over the lake, but we used to have them along the Chicago River right there in the city, and they did not see that.

00:48:42.000 Well, we used to celebrate this country.

00:48:45.000 When I visited home, it's not all immigration, but the baseball fields at my local park are overgrown with weeds.

00:48:52.000 They put up two big soccer goals just in the middle of the baseball fields.

00:48:56.000 And it looks, to be honest, within the past couple years, the baseball fields being overgrown are a product of people not having kids and not bringing their kids out to play baseball.

00:49:07.000 When I was a kid, every weekend, there were four baseball fields and they were full.

00:49:12.000 Actually, I think there were six.

00:49:13.000 Kelly Park.

00:49:14.000 I used to play Little League there when I was a kid.

00:49:16.000 Nobody's there anymore.

00:49:17.000 Nobody's there.

00:49:18.000 And so it's not just immigration, but immigration is a component of and a symptom of.

00:49:24.000 The reason why Democrats argue they need to bring out all these immigrants is because there's no workers and there's no young people.

00:49:30.000 But that's also contributing to a decline in American cultural traditions and norms, as well as people not having kids and bringing them out.

00:49:38.000 So it's compounding.

00:49:40.000 Yeah, it's two things.

00:49:41.000 Right.

00:49:41.000 The rule of law, which you were talking about before, if you want to see the Trump administration puts its foot down and says there is going to be law in this country, their number one, their showcase we're going to reimpose law is on immigration.

00:49:55.000 And the other thing, the second thing is what you're saying is how are you going to return love of the country?

00:50:03.000 How are you going to return that it's permissible to love this country, to join your fortune to it and to say, this is something great and important.

00:50:13.000 If you don't reassert there is such a thing as an American, there's such a thing as an American border, there's such a thing as American territory, and there's an American inheritance.

00:50:22.000 If you don't reassert that, then you're not going to have anything.

00:50:26.000 Love is earned, not bought, in my opinion, unless obviously you subscribe to OnlyFans, but quote unquote, love.

00:50:33.000 Yeah.

00:50:35.000 I, man, we drove around our old neighborhood, and it's crazy to see very few people walking around.

00:50:43.000 The park was largely empty, and it was the 4th.

00:50:48.000 It was the 4th of July, and it was just mostly empty.

00:50:52.000 And we had talked about this before.

00:50:54.000 People are just staying inside.

00:50:56.000 They're not going out.

00:50:57.000 It's crazy to think, but the internet really has caused a lot of these problems.

00:51:02.000 But it's a combination of the internet creating a digital social faux interaction online where you don't need to go outside anymore.

00:51:10.000 And people didn't have kids.

00:51:11.000 So there's no kids to play Little League anymore, even if you wanted to.

00:51:14.000 And then nobody goes outside.

00:51:16.000 It used to be back in the day, I'd be sitting at home as a little kid and I'd be like, I want to be doing something.

00:51:21.000 Where are my friends?

00:51:22.000 I'd have to go outside and go find them.

00:51:24.000 Call my friend's house.

00:51:25.000 They're not here.

00:51:25.000 I think they're at the park.

00:51:26.000 Okay, let's go try and find them.

00:51:28.000 Riding around, trying to find people.

00:51:29.000 Now it's you sit in, you sit in the house, you sit on the line, you swipe on TikTok.

00:51:32.000 Yep.

00:51:33.000 Actually, run into story in the street, and it would just be like, oh, hey.

00:51:36.000 Oh, and then we'd hang up.

00:51:38.000 And then we hang out for the rest of the day and we do things like that.

00:51:40.000 Like I'd be skating on the street and then Brandon would be skating and I'd be like, oh, hey, there you are.

00:51:43.000 Let's go skate somewhere else.

00:51:44.000 And then now we're in a group.

00:51:46.000 And we pick up a couple more people on the way.

00:51:47.000 Now we've got a full team and we're out and we're doing things all night.

00:51:50.000 You'd think with the internet, you'd be able to just connect instantly and everybody would be together.

00:51:55.000 It's not.

00:51:56.000 It's the opposite.

00:51:56.000 Well, I'm curious to see if this is the same thing in other cities, too, because I know as far as crime goes in Chicago, that that's gone way up, obviously, since the pandemic.

00:52:06.000 And it seems to me, I mean, obviously there was that River North shooting that happened, four people and, you know, a couple dozen injured just days before the fourth.

00:52:14.000 It makes me wonder if that does play a factor in some of this as well, because how could it not?

00:52:19.000 You know, I know that I haven't wanted to go downtown in years, just short from moving out of there entirely, just because things were so bad downtown that there was absolutely no point.

00:52:29.000 You can't enjoy yourself down there without having to have your head on swivel.

00:52:33.000 Here's a cultural degradation.

00:52:35.000 The old temple downtown is a casino now.

00:52:38.000 Talk about a complete inversion.

00:52:41.000 But I'm curious, just with all this stuff going on, your thoughts as it pertains to nationalism and how we reverse this trend.

00:52:48.000 How do we restore that spirit?

00:52:51.000 I think Trump's doing it.

00:52:52.000 I think that's what he wants to do.

00:52:54.000 Oh, you can see it for sure.

00:52:57.000 Just take a look just as kind of like an iconic moment.

00:53:03.000 Trump and Melania on the balcony with the B-2s flying over. 0.98

00:53:08.000 Okay, you know, people obviously have all sorts of mixed feelings about the B-2s and foreign policy, but just focus for a second on the way he sees it, thinking about what does this do for America?

00:53:21.000 This is the greatest technology in the world, he says.

00:53:23.000 And he stands there saluting through the entire Star Spangled banner and then these incredible, you know, these machines that they're just like magic.

00:53:36.000 They're like science fiction, this flying wing thing that can fly to the other side of the world and do pinpoint.

00:53:44.000 He's standing there saluting.

00:53:45.000 He's not saluting the bombers, obviously.

00:53:47.000 He's saluting America, and he really believes in that.

00:53:50.000 And he's trying to inspire that in people.

00:53:53.000 I think Trump sees largely what I'm discussing, what many people have seen.

00:53:57.000 When you go back to your hometown and see the baseball fields overgrown with weeds and you say, why was there no steward of this, of what we had, of what we did every day?

00:54:08.000 We came together.

00:54:09.000 I mean, it's wild to remember when I was a kid to see six.

00:54:14.000 They played baseball, little league, next to each other in the fields, and the balls would cross over.

00:54:19.000 It was like, that's how much.

00:54:20.000 Games would overlap.

00:54:20.000 Absolutely.

00:54:21.000 It's crazy.

00:54:21.000 Now nothing but overgrown weeds.

00:54:23.000 I think Trump sees that more so than just this one field.

00:54:26.000 He sees the whole country and says, why aren't we celebrating the 4th of July?

00:54:30.000 Why are they tearing down statues of George Washington?

00:54:33.000 What is happening?

00:54:34.000 Not just the decline of America, but the decline of Americanism.

00:54:36.000 And so it's interesting when you look at Los Angeles, you look at these scenes, I mean, there's really a fight here between the will of the Trump administration to kind of reconquer these cities and make them part of America again, and a kind of resistance that doesn't want that America, doesn't want to see it come back.

00:54:57.000 Indeed.

00:54:58.000 And I think When we're looking at the statements of people like Zoran Mamdani and these Democrats and people like Karen Bass, there's going to come a point, and I think that point is largely now, where people start to recognize there is America, this country, the United States of America, we call it America, and then there is this invasive ideological force with a large component being non-citizens. 0.61

00:55:26.000 And of course, the non-citizens want what is not theirs. 1.00

00:55:30.000 There is, as you mentioned, the American inheritance that our ancestors, be it the children of slaves, Native Americans, the colonists who have been here, and legal immigrants as well, who have said, please tell me the rules by which I can be a part of your club.

00:55:47.000 And we said yes.

00:55:49.000 And these people want, these leftists want to bring in those who would oppose and defy and destroy.

00:55:55.000 And of course, when they say our democracy, when they say we are under attack, they are not referring to this country, its values, or its people.

00:56:03.000 They're referring to themselves as an invasive, infecting force that wants to disrupt and dismantle.

00:56:10.000 And now New York, our once great city, has a guy who says he's going to defy the law intentionally.

00:56:19.000 Trump's threatening to arrest him for it.

00:56:21.000 When you have a mayor, and it's not just Zohar Mamdani as a potential mayor, but Karen Bass and all these other mayors saying they will do everything in their power to prevent the federal government from enforcing the law in those places.

00:56:33.000 And then some of these places, like in New York and California, say non-citizens should vote.

00:56:36.000 They are telling you, we are not you.

00:56:39.000 We are not your citizens. 0.58

00:56:40.000 We have nothing but disdain for your country, and we will give ourselves the power to destroy you.

00:56:44.000 Trump is saying no to that.

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:47.000 And just look at the flags they fly.

00:56:50.000 I mean, foreign countries.

00:56:52.000 No, they'll fly Mexican flags, Palestinian flags, all sorts of flags, the social revolution flags, but they won't fly American flags. 0.84

00:57:02.000 Well, not to mention seeing Americans burning American flags recently in the news, which is also just ridiculous.

00:57:08.000 But these are the co-conspirators. 0.95

00:57:10.000 These are the people who hate this country, and they want to see it burn, and they're happy living in the fringes and the dirt.

00:57:17.000 Okay, an important thing is it isn't just two sides, you know, each one saying about the other, oh, you're terrible, which is pretty normal.

00:57:27.000 I mean, it's normal for democracy that there's that kind of thing.

00:57:30.000 Here, as soon as liberalism moves over into Marxism and the explicit goal is overthrowing, Mandani is saying, seize the means of production.

00:57:43.000 He is explicitly talking about uproot the past, uproot the future.

00:57:48.000 There's going to be a whole new world that I'm going to build.

00:57:52.000 It's not the one that you had before.

00:57:54.000 Yep, right.

00:57:54.000 Let's jump to this story from the postmano, my friends.

00:57:57.000 I did a morning segment talking about an officer getting shot in an ice facility, and I missed this story in the morning.

00:58:04.000 Did y'all know that Texas Border Patrol were ambushed by a mass shooter?

00:58:09.000 Suspect in Texas Border Patrol ambushing identified as Ryan Louis Moscada.

00:58:13.000 They say Border Patrol agents were ambushed by an active shooter when they arrived at the Border Patrol annexed facility in McAllen, Texas on Monday morning.

00:58:20.000 Law enforcement has said no federal officers were shot in the incident.

00:58:24.000 However, one McAllen, Texas police officer was struck and is in stable condition.

00:58:28.000 The gunman was shot and killed by officers on the scene and has been identified as Ryan Louis Mosqueda.

00:58:36.000 According to Fox News' Bill Malugan, three federal and Texas law enforcement sources tell me an active shooter with a rifle and tactical gear ambushed Border Patrol agents as they arrived at a Border Patrol annex facility in McGallen, Texas this morning.

00:58:49.000 Local police and agents returned fire, killing him.

00:58:52.000 I'm told this was a purposeful ambush and attack against federal agents, and a press conference is planned for later this morning.

00:58:57.000 No federal agents were injured.

00:58:59.000 Now, you know what's really challenging?

00:59:01.000 When I started, the reason why I did not know this was a different story.

00:59:05.000 Let me show you this from the post-millennial.

00:59:08.000 Multiple suspects in custody after officers shot outside Texas ICE facility on July 4th.

00:59:13.000 There were two stories in the news over the past few days.

00:59:17.000 In, I believe it's Alvarado, is it was it Alvarado?

00:59:20.000 Yes.

00:59:20.000 Alvarado Police Department in Texas.

00:59:23.000 They responded to a suspicious person.

00:59:25.000 The man had a gun, shot a cop in the neck, who was airlifted to a hospital, treated, and discharged.

00:59:31.000 I see that story where they say a cop got shot.

00:59:34.000 I then see another story where they say a cop got shot, and I thought it was the same story.

00:59:38.000 In fact, it was two different stories, one from the fourth on Friday and one from today, Monday.

00:59:43.000 So when I was running my show, I thought this was the same story because heaven help me, two cops getting shot in three days.

00:59:52.000 Two instances where armed extremist leftist anti-ICE people are shooting at federal law enforcement did not seem fathomable.

01:00:01.000 But here we are right now, this morning.

01:00:04.000 I know, Phil.

01:00:06.000 It's funny.

01:00:07.000 Well, I was just Googling.

01:00:09.000 I wanted to find out exactly who the guy went after, like which Border Patrol unit.

01:00:15.000 Turns out he went after Bortec, which is the Border Patrol tactical unit.

01:00:19.000 They specialize in anti-terrorist and hostage rescue.

01:00:24.000 It's literally like, dude said, I'm going to take on a whole SWAT unit myself.

01:00:30.000 Grock just brought that up for me, so I'm sorry for interrupting, but I just.

01:00:33.000 No, it's just Democrats have been escalating calls for violence.

01:00:40.000 And now over the weekend, armed leftists went to Alvarado and presumably Alvarado to the police department, that just is in Texas, shot a cop in the neck.

01:00:50.000 And in McCallen, a guy with a rifle ambushed federal law enforcement officers.

01:00:56.000 When the Democrats keep claiming that ICE are Nazis, Gestapo, kidnapping children, which is a lie, this was the predictable outcome.

01:01:05.000 We talked about this with Obergo Garcia.

01:01:07.000 When they kept saying a Maryland man, a Maryland man was deported, when in fact he's an MS-13 gang member charged with smuggling humans and was deported to his home country.

01:01:17.000 They lied and said it was a Maryland man, a construction worker. 0.99

01:01:21.000 And then you end up with stupid people thinking, wow, Trump is rounding up Americans and putting them in camps. 1.00

01:01:30.000 So what do they do? 1.00

01:01:31.000 They do this.

01:01:32.000 I mean, there was a time where, you know, the idea of stochastic terrorism, you heard about the left talking about it all the time that, you know, Donald Trump's rhetoric, his racist rhetoric was actually stochastic terrorism, et cetera, et cetera.

01:01:46.000 You don't hear that very much from the left anymore, considering all of the firebombing of Tesla dealerships, people shooting at Tesla dealerships, people attacking the Border Patrol, literally, you know, taking rifles and trying to attack, because they're actually adding fuel to the fire.

01:02:07.000 Like people are already wigging out.

01:02:09.000 And there was a story, I think Tim's going to talk about it a little bit later, but the people are actually saying Democrats need to stand up and actually put them, Democrat representatives need to put themselves in harm's way so that way they can protect the line was they should do something that will get them shot.

01:02:30.000 That is a clear statement of you should engage in violence that threatens the life or safety of law enforcement officers.

01:02:36.000 That's the only reason they're going to shoot you. 0.98

01:02:37.000 Insane. 0.95

01:02:40.000 I'm pretty sure that we saw most of this.

01:02:42.000 I don't know if you agree.

01:02:43.000 I think we saw most of this in the summer of 2020.

01:02:47.000 We had six.

01:02:49.000 We saw cops getting shot.

01:02:52.000 There was a number of different incidents where cops were killed.

01:02:55.000 This is.

01:02:56.000 Well, finish your point.

01:02:57.000 I don't have a question.

01:02:58.000 Look, you guys have got the tech.

01:03:01.000 You can look it up.

01:03:02.000 I'm pretty sure that what we're seeing is a moment where Trump was here before for whatever it was, five months between June and November in the year 2020.

01:03:18.000 America had 100 cities burning.

01:03:22.000 And Trump didn't do anything.

01:03:24.000 Maybe he didn't feel like he had the power to.

01:03:25.000 But I actually think that most of what was going on was people believed that the left would be blamed for it.

01:03:31.000 Like the Republicans.

01:03:33.000 I mean, good Republicans too, not just bad Republicans.

01:03:35.000 I mean, like, I think people were sitting and saying, let the left, let them do all the worst people.

01:03:40.000 Well, then they'll be defeated in the election and it didn't happen.

01:03:44.000 And this is for Trump, for his administration, for his whole worldview and the future of America.

01:03:49.000 This is the moment of truth.

01:03:51.000 He's revisiting this moment with the same violence and the same hatred.

01:03:54.000 And the question now is, can he stamp it out?

01:03:58.000 Is he going to put his foot down enough to actually be able to stamp it out?

01:04:01.000 If not.

01:04:03.000 So when I said no to your point, you asked, you said we've already seen this.

01:04:09.000 Dozens of officers were shot in 2020.

01:04:11.000 There was the story of the cop who was shot in the neck and paralyzed.

01:04:15.000 There were, what is it, in St. Louis?

01:04:18.000 Four officers were shot on June 1st during the unrest.

01:04:22.000 Multiple officers were shot.

01:04:25.000 Two officers shot in Buffalo.

01:04:27.000 I remember that.

01:04:28.000 Hundreds of officers were injured, More than 300 incidents.

01:04:31.000 This is different.

01:04:32.000 And what about Texas?

01:04:35.000 Wasn't there a sniper who killed cops in Texas?

01:04:38.000 Yes.

01:04:38.000 I don't know if that was during George Floyd riots, though.

01:04:41.000 Okay.

01:04:42.000 Let's see.

01:04:43.000 You're right.

01:04:44.000 No, it was.

01:04:44.000 It was San Antonio.

01:04:45.000 That's when, yep, he was.

01:04:47.000 Yep.

01:04:48.000 Indeed, the reason why I say this is different is that during riots, during chaos, I believe that is largely these people go out there to riot, and then if chaos happens, shootings happen.

01:05:04.000 These two incidents are armed leftist groups or an individual intentionally going to a facility for the purpose to kill police.

01:05:12.000 So the difference being, one, I would say the sniper downtown in Antonio does somewhat align with this.

01:05:19.000 That was an intentional targeting of police.

01:05:22.000 This is the targeting of federal law enforcement intentionally, ambush style.

01:05:28.000 I do believe this is something we have not seen before.

01:05:32.000 Obviously, there's overlap and there'll be a debate about it.

01:05:34.000 I think on a larger degree.

01:05:36.000 I know what you're citing, too.

01:05:37.000 We did see a couple of cases where it did look like officers were being intentionally targeted because a few of my friends were officers and I remember a time where I was checking on them regularly to make sure that they hadn't been targeted.

01:05:48.000 But I think in this instance, the targeting is a little more widespread and is definitely being put out there like propaganda.

01:05:57.000 And this is being done by people who do not believe there should be consequences for it.

01:06:01.000 So, I mean, how do you oust something like this when these people believe that they are above the law and they are serving a higher purpose because they disagree with the political agenda?

01:06:10.000 I just think, so let me try and clarify.

01:06:12.000 During a riot, these people feel like they have cover to do these things.

01:06:17.000 This is plain day people showing up and shooting cops and ICE agents.

01:06:25.000 That's just crazy.

01:06:27.000 I think you're certainly right that the left is they're more desperate.

01:06:31.000 I mean, in 2020, they felt like the wind in their sails, they felt like they were winning.

01:06:37.000 They were on a roll.

01:06:38.000 Here they're on the defensive.

01:06:40.000 Now they've got a real organized administration, a real organized movement trying to put them down.

01:06:46.000 They are more desperate, that's for sure.

01:06:48.000 It's hard to see this as anything else other than like a seven-year-old throwing a tantrum because he has to eat his Brussels sprouts, though.

01:06:54.000 And I mean, you know, at the end of the day, you can't be for this type of violence.

01:07:02.000 You can't be for this.

01:07:03.000 I mean, these are people that are also parents, you know, like these people are part of this country.

01:07:09.000 They're not.

01:07:10.000 I think we're at war.

01:07:12.000 It's just what does war mean?

01:07:14.000 So I don't mean a formal declaration.

01:07:16.000 I don't mean, I think the ideological conflict clearly consists of two principal forces.

01:07:24.000 They want control over the system.

01:07:26.000 Donald Trump, there's a photo of a Democrat crying on the steps of the Capitol building after Trump got his big beautiful bill signed.

01:07:32.000 And the meme was, Democrats know it's over.

01:07:35.000 Trump's going to start deporting all of these people.

01:07:38.000 When they say our democracy, they literally view us as an enemy they seek to destroy who's winning.

01:07:46.000 We don't view them the same way.

01:07:48.000 Conservatives largely have not understood the threat posed by communists and socialists like Zoran Mamdani, who literally say they will stop the will of the American people from being enforced.

01:08:00.000 I want to stress this again.

01:08:01.000 Zoran has several quotes where he says he will protect people from deportation.

01:08:05.000 He will stop ICE wherever he can.

01:08:08.000 Trump said, then we'll have to arrest him.

01:08:10.000 Understand what that means.

01:08:12.000 The American people, through the system created by the founding fathers, voted for an administration, every branch of government to enforce our immigration laws.

01:08:22.000 Zoran Mamdani says to, he says, the will of the American people be damned.

01:08:28.000 We will oppose your laws, your government, and your law enforcement, and we will publicly declare it.

01:08:35.000 They are hoping you let them do it.

01:08:37.000 And you know what?

01:08:39.000 If you have two countries, let's call it Friten and Branz.

01:08:46.000 And one day, a bunch of Brench people, thousands, march across the border into Friton and just start going in houses and setting up shop. 0.99

01:08:58.000 And the government of Friton says, we're not going to do anything about it.

01:09:00.000 It's fine.

01:09:01.000 You will not have a war.

01:09:04.000 Your shops are being taken over.

01:09:05.000 The language is changing.

01:09:07.000 People start fighting and disagree with the religion of the people and the traditions of the people.

01:09:12.000 You start getting, you know, various clashes all over the place.

01:09:15.000 And your crown, the crown of Friton still says, we don't care.

01:09:20.000 There's no war, right?

01:09:22.000 But what happens if the Brench people are marching into Friton and the king of Friton says, no, you cannot come into our towns, take our homes, take our shops, and take our land, and resists? 0.99

01:09:36.000 The Brench people fight. 0.74

01:09:37.000 And now you have a war.

01:09:39.000 The only reason, in my opinion, we are not in any kind of formal declaration of war is that conservatives largely don't want one and don't do anything about it.

01:09:50.000 The left clearly does.

01:09:52.000 When the right does not engage, the left is violent.

01:09:57.000 When the right engages, the left escalates their violence, their violence.

01:10:00.000 As you mentioned, they're desperate.

01:10:02.000 The right does not do this.

01:10:04.000 We saw one principal event with the Capitol riots that were bad.

01:10:07.000 And even then, it was 1,000 people one time in a very bad riot.

01:10:13.000 The left riots all the time, nonstop.

01:10:16.000 And what happens if the police try and stop the riots?

01:10:19.000 The left will riot more.

01:10:21.000 If Donald Trump comes in and puts the boot down on these shooters, there will be more of them soon.

01:10:28.000 Their intention is to destroy us.

01:10:30.000 They have exemplified it with their actions.

01:10:33.000 Trump is not doing anything other than winning an election, funding the law enforcement for the second biggest issue in the election, and carrying out the will of the American voter.

01:10:43.000 All of that is what is supposed to happen in our system of governance.

01:10:47.000 The left riding, throwing bricks, burning things down, smashing buildings, throwing molotovs at cops is violence and is a violation of our laws and our system that we voted for.

01:10:58.000 The moment Trump starts fighting back with the Marines, what do we get?

01:11:01.000 They go and they shoot at ICE officers and they shoot at two cops.

01:11:05.000 So they've decided if you use the law, we will escalate against you.

01:11:10.000 I think that it is very likely this will escalate.

01:11:14.000 Trump probably is saying it's my last term and we're getting the job done.

01:11:16.000 We're going to deport people and we're going to restore America and the left is going to say that war it is.

01:11:20.000 I mean, we've talked about this a little bit before, but the idea that if there's going to be some kind of conflict in the U.S., I prefer that conservatives be in charge of the government and have the apparatus of the DOJ as opposed to the left.

01:11:38.000 Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.

01:11:40.000 Democrat lawmakers say their constituents want violence against Trump policies.

01:11:46.000 The report they cite is from Axios.

01:11:48.000 Democrat lawmakers have said their voters are really displeased with them over their failure to prevent Trump's and the Republicans from enacting their agenda.

01:11:55.000 These voters are so mad, Democrat polls claim, that they could resort to violence.

01:12:00.000 A report from Axios details the issue, saying they spoke to more than 24 House Democrats to gauge the temperature of the Democratic and leftist base.

01:12:07.000 People apparently are mad and so mad they could take action into their own hands, as we've already seen with these stories of an ambush on an ICE facility and two cops being shot.

01:12:17.000 Quote, what I have seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally or allow ourselves to be victims of violence.

01:12:24.000 And a lot of times, that's coming from economically very secure white people.

01:12:28.000 In Portland, Oregon, violent anti-vamilitants have been doing just that by blockading an ICE facility there.

01:12:33.000 LA has seen riots as well as protests have erupted in New York, D.C., and elsewhere.

01:12:38.000 On the same day that Axios released their story, border patrols ambushed in Texas outside an immigration facility.

01:12:44.000 We've got people who are desperately wanting us to do something no matter what we say, they want more, Brad Schneider said.

01:12:51.000 Other lawmakers did not give their names when they expressed their constituents' concerns.

01:12:55.000 Another told Axios, I actually said in the meeting, when they light a fire, my thought is to grab an extinguisher.

01:13:00.000 Going on to say that someone at the table said, have you tried gasoline?

01:13:05.000 Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough, an anonymous lawmaker told Axios, that there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public.

01:13:14.000 Still, another said that their constituents were done with civility because it isn't working.

01:13:19.000 Another Democrat said, people online have sent me crazy-ish, told me to storm the White House and stuff like that.

01:13:24.000 The Democrat told Axios, there's always people on the internet saying crazy stuff.

01:13:29.000 In the Axios report, they say, quote, some of them have suggested what we really need to do is be willing to get shot when visiting ICE facilities or federal agencies, a third House Democrat told Axios.

01:13:44.000 The left wants violence.

01:13:46.000 They want blood and they want war. 0.64

01:13:47.000 They don't sacrifice themselves, apparently?

01:13:49.000 No, they want other people.

01:13:52.000 My gut instinct is it's liberal white women because this is the MO that you see on the TikTok videos that they make. 1.00

01:13:58.000 They're constantly saying, you know, someone should go do this and alluding to someone should go and commit violent acts against the president.

01:14:06.000 You see those kind of posts on TikTok all the time.

01:14:09.000 They make their rounds on X when they, you know, from libs of TikTok or whatever.

01:14:13.000 Consistently, liberal, wealthy liberal awfuls are telling people that you should go do something.

01:14:20.000 Here's the problem.

01:14:22.000 You can't criminally charge them.

01:14:25.000 They would never get convicted.

01:14:27.000 So we had this debate with a libertarian fellow.

01:14:30.000 Democrats arrested Trump's lawyers, charging his lawyers with RICO because they offered him legal advice.

01:14:37.000 Constitutionally protected.

01:14:38.000 They raided his home.

01:14:40.000 They gave him 34 fake felonies.

01:14:44.000 What do you do?

01:14:45.000 For one, you can't go to the prosecutors.

01:14:46.000 They got prosecutorial immunity.

01:14:49.000 You can try and arrest some of these politicians and some of these individual actors in New York.

01:14:53.000 But if you are operating out of the Southern District of New York, all of the jury pool is going to be liberal and they're going to say, good, we want more.

01:15:01.000 So how do you stop it?

01:15:03.000 I mean, I don't have a solution.

01:15:05.000 I don't know if I knew, I would definitely be trying to stop it.

01:15:09.000 But I mean, this leads to the whole, you know, where's the off-ramp conversation that we have?

01:15:13.000 You know, what is the how do we de-escalate this kind of violent rhetoric when there are so many people out there that truly seem to believe that like sending illegal immigrants back to their countries of origin is somehow fascism.

01:15:32.000 The most mundane state policies like you can't just come here and take advantage of our generous social security system and that, you know, just upholding the law is considered fascism this reason.

01:15:50.000 Well, it's not like it's the first time we've tried, we've actually deported people in any administration either.

01:15:55.000 I mean, we've been doing it for a long time, just not en masse like this.

01:16:03.000 They say Obama was the deporter-in-chief, but it was largely people crossing the border.

01:16:07.000 Trump is actually going into L.A. and saying, these people are gone.

01:16:12.000 We're sending them home.

01:16:13.000 And people are fleeing and going into hiding.

01:16:16.000 Let me add to your question, the issue of the timeframe.

01:16:20.000 15 months from now, 15, 16 months from now, there's midterm elections.

01:16:25.000 And Trump administration is extremely aware that the way this is going to end, I mean, this round, the way this round is going to end, is if they can stay in control, if they can be putting it down without looking like they're overreacting, without giving the impression of, oh, okay, look here, the Trump administration, they're the Nazis.

01:16:49.000 This is difficult to do.

01:16:50.000 It's a fine line.

01:16:51.000 They have to be able to put this down with enough force and still look like they're in control, like they're generous, like they love all Americans.

01:17:00.000 It's incredibly difficult to do, but that's the job.

01:17:03.000 And without that, they will lose that.

01:17:06.000 They will lose that election.

01:17:07.000 They'll lose the Congress.

01:17:08.000 And honestly, I don't think there is a way to de-escalate this.

01:17:12.000 I think this is going to turn into one of those situations where violence can only be met with violence.

01:17:18.000 And that's what we've been seeing with these attacks on these police.

01:17:22.000 These guys are ending up shot dead or critical condition.

01:17:26.000 The ideology of the left is extreme.

01:17:29.000 They Have been flooding the country with illegal immigrants against the will of the American voter, telling you to be okay with it. 1.00

01:17:36.000 Trump responds with, let's enforce the law. 1.00

01:17:39.000 They respond with, we'll kill you. 0.99

01:17:41.000 And they're shooting at cops now and they're rioting and firebombing. 0.99

01:17:45.000 If Trump responds with, then you go to jail too, they will respond with an escalation of violence.

01:17:51.000 I don't think people understand.

01:17:53.000 When you see the far left rioting, they are showing you they are more willing than you to use violence.

01:18:00.000 And it's really that simple.

01:18:03.000 Whatever the escalation is, Democrats are two degrees above Republicans or liberals two degrees above conservatives or the left and the right.

01:18:11.000 The right doesn't protest.

01:18:12.000 They don't march in the streets.

01:18:14.000 They barely go out.

01:18:15.000 The left protests something every single day.

01:18:18.000 If the right is not willing to even go outside for an issue, what do you think they're willing to fight for? 1.00

01:18:24.000 The left is fighting for the stupidest things in the world. 0.99

01:18:26.000 They'll fight anything for any reason. 1.00

01:18:28.000 So when the escalation happens, these people are going to go nuts and they're going to take it to straight up conflict.

01:18:36.000 You don't think that this is organized?

01:18:39.000 That it's organized, funded, that there's probably foreign governments.

01:18:44.000 I would say yes, but it's cell-based.

01:18:48.000 The left is not part of this big umbrella that controls them on puppet strings.

01:18:52.000 There's individual disparate groups of leftist ideology that have various forms of funding.

01:18:57.000 And I would call it more of a complex standalone complex.

01:19:02.000 A complex standalone complex, meaning a standalone complex is a reference to when individuals act in such a way that it appears as a coordinated effort.

01:19:09.000 A complex standalone complex would be you have cells of standalone action against cells of standalone action.

01:19:17.000 So what I mean by this is ANTIFA has various chapters.

01:19:20.000 The people there only know a few of each other.

01:19:23.000 There will be like four or five direct action organizers.

01:19:26.000 They'll have a meeting and 15, 20 people they don't know show up for their event and they talk about what they want to do.

01:19:32.000 So it's not that they have an organization of 30 people.

01:19:35.000 It's that four or five people will put an event and a bunch of people show up.

01:19:39.000 Then those groups will say, put out the word.

01:19:42.000 We will be in San Bernardino.

01:19:45.000 Other local anti-foot groups do the same thing and you get one big mass in one area from a bunch of different organizations.

01:19:53.000 Yeah.

01:19:54.000 So it's not one funding operation.

01:19:56.000 Yeah, I don't expect the right to be able to imitate anything like that.

01:20:01.000 They don't want to.

01:20:05.000 Well, the right doesn't have that kind of an ideology there.

01:20:09.000 I mean, the purpose of this is revolutionary activity.

01:20:15.000 It's by the book.

01:20:16.000 The purpose is to overthrow the American government.

01:20:21.000 And the response is, it's a little bit hard for me to see why the right riding in the streets is going to be helpful.

01:20:32.000 The real question, I think, is whether the American people have become so squeamish and so liberal that they're going to defeat the Republicans at the polls if they use overwhelming force in order to uproot these cells.

01:20:53.000 It's not easy to do, but it's not impossible to do.

01:20:57.000 I wonder, based on all the events now, that if the Democrats were to reclaim Congress in 26, which some predict, and then in 2028, however they do, they win the presidency, I don't think the right would engage in the same degree of violent resistance as the left would against Trump.

01:21:15.000 And thus you'd end up with probably some kind of tyrannical system.

01:21:21.000 American citizens will get walked all over, taxed to oblivion, cities will be destroyed, anarcho-tyranny.

01:21:26.000 Whereas when the Republicans win, Trump just literally enforces codified law and they go nuts and start shooting and resisting.

01:21:35.000 If Trump doesn't uphold the law, I think if Trump loses this battle, the right will just let the left do it.

01:21:46.000 Like, this is how the right fights back.

01:21:48.000 They say, well, I'll vote.

01:21:49.000 And then they go and vote. 0.99

01:21:50.000 And if they don't win, they go, gosh, darn it. 0.98

01:21:52.000 The left goes and firebombs buildings, even the White House grounds and churches. 0.98

01:21:56.000 So if Trump keeps pushing and then J.D. Vance wins, I think escalation is predictable.

01:22:03.000 But let's do this.

01:22:05.000 We have this story from UC Santa Barbara, the current.

01:22:09.000 Could America break apart?

01:22:11.000 UCSB expert explores the possibility.

01:22:14.000 Political economist Benjamin Cohen considers the forces driving nations, including the U.S., towards fragmentation, to which he argues in 10 years, California will formally declare its independence as a sovereign nation.

01:22:26.000 President Vance threatens military takeover of the state, deploys National Guard backed by red states, triggering secessionist movement and a civil war.

01:22:34.000 And he says it's a hypothetical, but he says the likelihood of a civil war in this country is substantially greater than zero.

01:22:42.000 He's just one guy, right?

01:22:44.000 Well, here's this.

01:22:45.000 From notice, Trump fired them.

01:22:48.000 Now they're plotting to stop him.

01:22:50.000 Former USAID and State Department officials worried about the future of democracy in America say they're actively organizing to resist Trump inside and outside of government.

01:23:02.000 We are looking at two factions fighting for control of one government.

01:23:07.000 Historically, we call that a civil war.

01:23:09.000 But I suppose the fighting needs to be kinetic for it to be considered a civil war, despite the fact we have all of the political elements of that battle.

01:23:16.000 You've got predictions across the board far and wide of a pending second civil war.

01:23:20.000 It's been happening for eight years.

01:23:22.000 People have predicted this, and now you've got another guy adding to it.

01:23:24.000 At the same time, you have forces of government falsely charging Donald Trump with 34 felonies.

01:23:30.000 These were fake charges, by the way, not real, because there was no underlying crime for the misdemeanors to be upgraded to felonies, and people don't know this.

01:23:37.000 Trump was falsely accused of sexual abuse, civilly charged in New York. 0.94

01:23:44.000 Forum shopping is so insane.

01:23:46.000 I'm pretty sure the lawyers all know civil war is coming, and they knew this before anybody else because of forum shopping.

01:23:53.000 Are you familiar with forum shopping?

01:23:54.000 No.

01:23:55.000 When you file a lawsuit, the lawyers will take a look at the issue, Determining which direction it leans politically, and then say, Here's the jurisdiction you need to sue in.

01:24:05.000 So it's been true for a while for various reasons.

01:24:07.000 I got Delaware is very corporate friendly, or you know, New York is going to.

01:24:10.000 Now it's literally, I've had lawyers say, if you bring this lawsuit in New York, you'll lose in two seconds, no matter what.

01:24:18.000 Even if all the evidence says you're true and correct, they'll simply say he's a conservative and the jury will vote against you, or the judge will find some way to exclude evidence and make it against you.

01:24:29.000 They can see all of that happening.

01:24:31.000 When you have former elements of the government and current inside government actively working against in a seditious conspiracy Donald Trump, the far left shooting cops and shooting two cops shot in the past three days and an ambush at the ICE facility that resulted in that cop getting shot.

01:24:49.000 The riots, the Tesla riots, the immigration riots, even the Palestine riot stuff.

01:24:55.000 It really does look like things are going to continue heating up and there's no reason to assume or expect things to simmer down and the left to stop.

01:25:05.000 If Trump decides to crack down on these shootings at cops and these riots, as he's already indicated he will with the Marines, unprecedented move, well, not unprecedented, but very rare move by the president.

01:25:18.000 When he does this, the left escalates their tactics.

01:25:21.000 I'm curious what you think, what you guys think if these predictions are correct.

01:25:27.000 Well, I mean, I don't know that I think that the U.S. will actually fracture, but I do think that if California were to, say hypothetically, California were to decide to declare its independence, the proper and the actual course of action by the federal government would be to activate the National Guard and send them in to California and say, no, you're not.

01:25:51.000 Historically, that's what's happened, and that's exactly what should happen.

01:25:55.000 You know, shouldn't happen.

01:25:56.000 All right, let's see.

01:25:57.000 Let's say Zoran Mamdani uses government resources in New York to stop ICE.

01:26:02.000 So Trump says it should indictment have him arrested.

01:26:05.000 What do you think?

01:26:06.000 How do you think Democrats react to the arrest of a new?

01:26:08.000 They'll say that it was unconstitutional.

01:26:12.000 They probably could talk about the 10th Amendment, which is ridiculous for them to even mention the 10th Amendment.

01:26:17.000 But they would be apoplectic.

01:26:21.000 Especially if they're electing him on purpose to do this.

01:26:24.000 Right.

01:26:24.000 So what do they do?

01:26:26.000 What does the administration do?

01:26:28.000 No, what does the left do if Trump arrests?

01:26:29.000 That's what they've already done.

01:26:30.000 I'd say they turn it up.

01:26:33.000 Look, the left is not.

01:26:38.000 This is not an organized armed force.

01:26:44.000 I mean, their doctrine is they've got to have street violence going on, the occasional killings, the burnings, they've got to have street violence going on in order to be able to apply institutional pressure.

01:27:00.000 They're not organized in order to actually be able to fight a war against the U.S. Army.

01:27:06.000 So they're not going to try to fight a war against the U.S. Army.

01:27:10.000 Was the Syrian Free Army or al-Nursra or ISIS?

01:27:14.000 No, I don't think that we're there yet in America.

01:27:18.000 Now, I'm not saying, but it only took a year to Syria.

01:27:21.000 Look, it is certainly possible that if you import enough people from the Middle East and other cultures where tribal warfare, arming your family, arming your clan, arming your tribe against the system, it's possible that that's going to happen. 0.97

01:27:44.000 But it looks to me like it's going to happen in Britain or in France first before it happens in the United States.

01:27:53.000 Look, I think Trump is right that the immigration issue is even here, even on the Civil War thing, the immigration issue is a key issue because you need to have critical mass of people who are not just countercultural, but they actually have a belief system.

01:28:13.000 They're willing to die.

01:28:14.000 And that question was raised before.

01:28:16.000 How many people on the left are actually willing to die?

01:28:18.000 So, okay, so there's a few.

01:28:22.000 They don't think they're going to die.

01:28:24.000 No, I think in the Middle East, if you're talking about Syria, they know they're going to die.

01:28:29.000 Indeed.

01:28:29.000 They know they're going to die.

01:28:30.000 But the issue is you don't have to be willing to die.

01:28:35.000 You also have to be ignorant of the fact that you could die. 0.99

01:28:42.000 What do you mean, ignorant of the fact that you could die? 0.99

01:28:44.000 When the left goes out with guns to shoot at people, they don't think they'll die. 1.00

01:28:49.000 When they show up with Molotov cocktails and hand them out to people, these people are as dumb as a box of rocks. 0.99

01:28:54.000 I understand in the Middle East, they live in this perpetual decades-long or hundreds of thousands of years of conflict. 0.99

01:29:01.000 But when these lawyers in New York hang out Molotov cocktails, do any of those people who took the Molotov cocktails realize that simply holding that could put a bullet in your head?

01:29:10.000 They don't think that.

01:29:11.000 If these people genuinely feared that they would die throwing Molotov cocktails, they would not do it.

01:29:18.000 Okay, but that actually is the challenge right now.

01:29:22.000 How is the administration going to convince, you know, not the few lunatics, the most radical?

01:29:29.000 How are they going to convince the sort of broader population?

01:29:33.000 How are they going to convince them that if you hold a Molotov cocktail, you could die?

01:29:38.000 You can't.

01:29:39.000 That's assuming that these people can be convinced in the first place.

01:29:43.000 I don't know that they can.

01:29:44.000 You know, they go out to these riots and they LARP.

01:29:51.000 It's live-action roll.

01:29:52.000 But how many?

01:29:53.000 How many of them are there?

01:29:55.000 Hundreds of thousands active protesting on a regular basis, and then probably several million that engage in ancillary protest efforts by the direct action groups.

01:30:05.000 Okay.

01:30:05.000 Well, look, we're really getting into placing bets on things that none of us can actually, I mean, it's really difficult to assess things and these things.

01:30:16.000 Look, I definitely agree that the potential for civil war is real.

01:30:23.000 It's real.

01:30:23.000 It's escalating.

01:30:25.000 It's motivated.

01:30:26.000 I actually do think it's foreign funded.

01:30:31.000 And so it's not in any way a game.

01:30:35.000 It really, really could get there.

01:30:38.000 But I think that the likelihood that in a situation in which people are killed, you know, it's Kent State.

01:30:53.000 We're back in the late 60s, early 70s.

01:30:56.000 People don't remember that the United States had thousands of bombings, not hundreds, thousands of bombings by leftist radicals.

01:31:06.000 And Nixon did succeed in putting an end to it.

01:31:08.000 Now, I agree with you.

01:31:10.000 This is not the same.

01:31:12.000 The country is much farther gone.

01:31:16.000 It's hyperpolarized.

01:31:17.000 It's hyper-polarized.

01:31:18.000 Completely agree with you.

01:31:20.000 Still the question, how many people are really going to show up once it's the U.S. Army, once it's the Marines, once it's the Marines, and people know they can get really killed.

01:31:32.000 How many people are in the California National Guard?

01:31:35.000 You think the California National Guard is going to revolt against the administration?

01:31:40.000 Why did the Virginia Army raise arms against the Union?

01:31:46.000 The Virginia Army thought that they were defending their homes.

01:31:50.000 And the generals of the Confederacy were all trained at West Point and were friends with the Union generals.

01:31:57.000 And again, something we bring up literally all the time is the first Battle of Bull Run, they picnicked outside of it because they said exactly what you're saying right now.

01:32:06.000 It can't happen.

01:32:07.000 Virginia's not going to shoot Maryland. 1.00

01:32:09.000 It's just ridiculous to think.

01:32:11.000 And then what happened when the question is right now?

01:32:16.000 I'm not saying it can't happen.

01:32:17.000 No, I don't.

01:32:18.000 I'm saying it can happen.

01:32:20.000 Right.

01:32:22.000 What I don't know, what I don't know is you use the word LARPing.

01:32:28.000 I think it's a good word.

01:32:30.000 What's the balance between the true believers who want revolution and are willing to give anything for it and the people who are play acting and they'll run for cover?

01:32:40.000 What is that balance?

01:32:41.000 Kind of one. 1.00

01:32:43.000 But what happens when some dumb college LARPer takes a bullet in the back of the head because they were at a violent riot that was shooting at cops? 1.00

01:32:50.000 And they get shot by a National Guardsman or a Marine. 0.99

01:32:53.000 And then what happens to all of that kid's friends and family?

01:32:55.000 And then what happens to the rest of the LARPers who are like, this is not a game? 0.99

01:32:58.000 Trump is killing people.

01:32:59.000 It's a kindling stokes the flame type situation, in my opinion. 0.93

01:33:03.000 And I don't think that we're going to see a real escalation like what you're talking about until we've gotten to that point.

01:33:09.000 But it is going, I do believe that it is eventually going to turn into a play adult games, win adult prizes situation.

01:33:14.000 And when we get to that point, that's when the people that even if they didn't think or know that they wanted to die are going to start risking their lives to get involved.

01:33:23.000 And at that point, that's where we lose all control.

01:33:25.000 Eric Prince was talking to me about a variety of issues.

01:33:30.000 I asked him, you know, this conversation about civil war has been going on for eight years.

01:33:34.000 I certainly did not create it, though I probably talk about it, you know, more than most people.

01:33:38.000 Whenever the story comes up, I caveat this with guys.

01:33:41.000 Professor just came out claiming it.

01:33:43.000 The news media is all picking it up, so we talk about it.

01:33:46.000 I asked him, does it look like the United States is tracking similarly to the countries that you've had operations in?

01:33:53.000 And he said, the one thing I can tell you, everybody I've worked with says it's overnight.

01:33:59.000 Everything appears normal, and then you wake up in the morning and the power is out and the internet doesn't work.

01:34:04.000 That's it.

01:34:05.000 So everybody assumes there's going to be a gradual buildup, which has never been the case.

01:34:14.000 And I've made the point about being in Egypt during the Second Revolution.

01:34:20.000 There was only a few thousand people that triggered the revolution in Tyrreer Square.

01:34:24.000 Two blocks away, I'm standing as a guy at McDonald's watching a soccer game, completely oblivious.

01:34:29.000 We drove to the mall.

01:34:30.000 We went shopping.

01:34:31.000 Everything was normal.

01:34:32.000 And a few thousand people triggered a revolution.

01:34:35.000 That's it.

01:34:36.000 And then the military came in and said, we can't keep doing this. 0.64

01:34:39.000 So they decided to go and massacre all the Muslims because the Muslim Brotherhood was a minority party that kept winning because they were the plurality or at least the largest voting block. 0.74

01:34:49.000 The concern that I have in the United States is, once again, gradually then suddenly, hyper-polarization.

01:34:56.000 We have this report of Democrats saying their constituents want them to be violent or at least risk getting shot, which implies engaging in violence.

01:35:05.000 I do think it's fair to say many of these people do not understand just how bad war can be because they're LARPers. 0.54

01:35:12.000 But that actually, I think, exemplifies the risk.

01:35:16.000 People, when you look at these guys who are like veterans and PMCs and contractors and stuff, they'll say it, you don't want to fight.

01:35:24.000 You do not want to be in this situation, man.

01:35:26.000 These people don't know what they're asking for.

01:35:29.000 People who've truly experienced the conflict and the violence want to avoid it because it is not any way to live.

01:35:36.000 But these leftists who LARP and go around with Molotov cocktails, they don't understand what it means to be engulfed in flames and die.

01:35:45.000 They don't understand that these two New York lawyers handing out Molotov cocktails, people are taking them.

01:35:50.000 They don't understand.

01:35:52.000 You can accidentally immolate yourself and people do it all the time. 1.00

01:35:55.000 They're playing a stupid game. 0.99

01:35:57.000 And because they don't understand the consequences, they don't realize that it takes a single Maltav or gunshot to trigger a total economic collapse or governmental collapse. 1.00

01:36:07.000 That's why you're more likely for it to happen.

01:36:09.000 So I suppose what I'm saying is, I understand you're saying it could happen.

01:36:13.000 I think that people confuse what it means that we are dangerously close with indicators that we are nowhere near, such as that point.

01:36:23.000 Oh, but none of these people actually want to die, right?

01:36:26.000 Which means they're more likely to run up to a cop screaming, waving a baton in their face because they're like, nothing's going to happen.

01:36:31.000 And then a cop shoots a guy, bang, he drops dead.

01:36:34.000 Then the left starts screaming.

01:36:36.000 They're armed already and shooting ICE officers and they start opening fire back.

01:36:39.000 And then how long till we get a story of a shootout between protesters?

01:36:43.000 I'm sorry.

01:36:44.000 I'm sorry.

01:36:45.000 Story already happened on Friday when armed far leftists went to an ICE facility in Alvarado, Texas.

01:36:52.000 And when the cops came out to confront them, they shot the cop in the neck, then arrested the people.

01:36:56.000 So we've already gotten one of these types of moments.

01:37:00.000 I hope, I beg, and I pray that I'm completely wrong.

01:37:03.000 And that's it. 0.97

01:37:04.000 The wake-up call for the left, they say, holy crap, don't go to these events. 0.99

01:37:08.000 They're shooting cops. 0.99

01:37:09.000 And Monday morning, a guy went to an ICE facility with a rifle and shot another cop.

01:37:13.000 You're not wrong.

01:37:15.000 Your whole analysis is right.

01:37:18.000 I'm just asking the following.

01:37:21.000 We have an administration.

01:37:24.000 It has leadership.

01:37:25.000 It has a lot of good people in it.

01:37:27.000 It's not just one good person.

01:37:29.000 I mean, astonishingly, there are hundreds of good people in this administration.

01:37:34.000 And I feel like your description is leaving out the challenge to national leadership.

01:37:47.000 There is a challenge.

01:37:48.000 I don't know if they can pull it off.

01:37:49.000 I don't know if Syria can be avoided. 1.00

01:37:52.000 I have no clue.

01:37:53.000 What I do know is that you remember right after the election, right after the 2024 election, there was this shock, there was this defeat.

01:38:07.000 There was this, it went on for a couple of months of a feeling of hopelessness on the left.

01:38:15.000 Of course, it's not permanent.

01:38:16.000 It's never permanent.

01:38:18.000 But that feeling of hopelessness, it's possible for political moves, including military moves.

01:38:25.000 It's possible for military and political moves if they're done well, if they're explained in a way that sweeps most of the people with them.

01:38:35.000 If Trump can put these things down with violence while keeping a majority with him, it's possible to win that election.

01:38:44.000 It's possible to cause a more extensive demoralization.

01:38:48.000 It's not going to be permanent.

01:38:49.000 But that's what he's playing for.

01:38:51.000 He's playing for what are the steps that I can take that will allow me to get past the next election, and then I can take more steps.

01:38:59.000 That's the game he's playing.

01:39:00.000 Well, his election is this is it, right?

01:39:03.000 So J.D. Vance will be next.

01:39:04.000 No, right now I'm talking about the congressional election.

01:39:07.000 Oh, right.

01:39:08.000 I'm talking about the question.

01:39:09.000 No, I'm talking about the congressional.

01:39:11.000 He thinks that if he can have a bigger majority in Congress, then he can do more.

01:39:16.000 That's the whole argument with the government.

01:39:18.000 So let me ask you a potentiality.

01:39:20.000 Trump just federalized the California National Guard, to command, and they sued.

01:39:26.000 At first, the order was stayed, then the stay was stayed, and Trump was able to retain control of the California National Guard.

01:39:34.000 When you ask, you know, who would fight, when the army comes in, how many people want to fight, the question is, how big is the California National Guard?

01:39:41.000 Why?

01:39:41.000 Same thing in the first, I shouldn't say the first, but in the Civil War, by the way.

01:39:45.000 24,000.

01:39:46.000 So in the Civil War, the question asked by, I can't remember if it was Jackson or Lee, was, do I defend my nation or my home?

01:39:54.000 And in the end, I had to choose my home.

01:39:56.000 And that's all anyone will ever do.

01:39:58.000 If you're in the National Guard and you own a house and you have a wife and a child and they are in California and Donald Trump says, you will take orders from me now, you'd probably say, okay, we've been federalized.

01:40:10.000 Then the governor, maybe it's not Newsom, maybe it's the next more radical person, maybe it is Newsome, says, no, a court ordered you know, do not take those orders from the president.

01:40:21.000 Who do they choose?

01:40:24.000 They choose their home every time.

01:40:25.000 Governor could seize your house from you, could put you out on the street.

01:40:29.000 They can issue charges against you at the state.

01:40:33.000 The state has command and they're arguing for control.

01:40:35.000 Now, Donald Trump can claim he is federalizing the California National Guard, but the law enforcement apparatus against those people is going to be state level.

01:40:44.000 And the question then becomes, who do you listen to?

01:40:47.000 Do you support the president or the governor where your home is?

01:40:51.000 And if you say no to Trump, what happens?

01:40:54.000 And if you say no to the governor or to the state, what happens?

01:40:57.000 Where is the greatest risk?

01:40:59.000 The reason why in the Civil War they chose their home states was because they were like, I'll lose my land, I'll lose my farm, I'll lose my family.

01:41:04.000 And then I'll go be what, a refugee in New York with nowhere to live?

01:41:08.000 That makes no sense.

01:41:11.000 All that's true, but it's not the whole story.

01:41:15.000 Virginians thought that Virginia was some kind of a nation.

01:41:19.000 I mean, this did.

01:41:20.000 This takes you into the nationalism issue.

01:41:23.000 I don't mean that they thought Virginia is a jurisdiction, a legal jurisdiction independent from the federal jurisdiction, and therefore it's legitimate for me to raise an army and fight.

01:41:36.000 That's not the issue.

01:41:37.000 The question is the people, the leadership especially of Virginia, who were they actually loyal to?

01:41:46.000 And we know the answer.

01:41:47.000 The answer is that they were loyal to Virginia.

01:41:51.000 Are you sure that we've got that in America anymore?

01:41:55.000 I would argue that we don't need loyalty to a state in a fractured culture that cares not for its neighbor.

01:42:00.000 When the only thing people care about is that they get theirs, it's substantially worse.

01:42:04.000 That is, when I was in Venezuela, I got to see the National Guard charge on student protesters.

01:42:13.000 Why would they do that?

01:42:14.000 Because they're guaranteed food.

01:42:16.000 They don't care about you.

01:42:17.000 They don't care about anything other than I must get my access.

01:42:21.000 And so the issue I see here is the reason why the left says don't serve cops is because they want those cops to feel local pressure.

01:42:29.000 They want a cop walking into a donut shop to be refused and then say, I hate this job and I want to quit.

01:42:33.000 And it worked in the Pacific Northwest.

01:42:35.000 Viral videos, one of a cop stopping at a light and the protesters are screaming at him and he says, you won, you win, I quit.

01:42:42.000 That was like in, I think, like 2020 or something.

01:42:45.000 That's what they want to happen.

01:42:46.000 So if you're in the National Guard and you were ordered by Trump to stand and watch guard over a facility and then you have this critical mass, thousands of people, including your own mayor, screaming in your face, you choose.

01:43:00.000 Now, I don't know where we're at right now, but I will tell you, for the average person who is like, look, man, I don't know.

01:43:05.000 I just needed a job.

01:43:06.000 And I'm going to say this.

01:43:08.000 I have tremendous respect for people who serve.

01:43:10.000 Many of them do it for the right reasons.

01:43:12.000 Some of them just need jobs.

01:43:14.000 There are a lot of people that I've met who are in the Army who are like, I don't know, it was good income and it was training and I got to go to school.

01:43:19.000 And there's nothing more to it.

01:43:21.000 So imagine you're in California National Guard and you get ordered by Trump to guard a facility or to go out and defend CBP.

01:43:27.000 He is allowed to federalize if the laws are not being enforced.

01:43:30.000 Then the mayor shows up and starts saying, all of these people, you are in violation.

01:43:35.000 There was a court order.

01:43:36.000 You're not supposed to be obeying Trump.

01:43:38.000 And now you're torn between your local community where you actually have risk of being ostracized and enforcement against your property and your family, not to mention a brick to the face, and the federal government you've never seen and is 3,000, 4,000 miles away.

01:43:54.000 I'm not saying we're at the point right now where the National Guard is going to be like, I don't know what to do.

01:43:58.000 I don't know whatever.

01:43:59.000 I'm saying that's the potentiality for which, as this professor is pointing out, when J.D. Vance, in the future, hypothetically, sends an external National Guard to enforce the law in California because the state is declaring independence or whatever it is that they're doing, at that point, if you live in California, what's your decision?

01:44:17.000 It's not about loyalty to your state.

01:44:19.000 It's about saying, I own a home in California.

01:44:22.000 If I decide not to be a part of this, I will be living in a tent with my children, where, in Nebraska.

01:44:28.000 And so people are going to be like, I just want my house.

01:44:31.000 We'll see.

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01:44:48.000 All right, we got Shane H. Wilder says the flooding in Texas has been horrific.

01:44:52.000 If anyone wants to help in the relief efforts in Kerrville, you can donate to the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country at communityfoundation.net.

01:45:01.000 Our team right now is looking to send coffee down to first responders and anybody who might need it.

01:45:06.000 I know coffee isn't the most important of things to send, but it's something we do have ready to go.

01:45:11.000 And certainly it will be at least minimally helpful to people who are looking for a cup of coffee.

01:45:19.000 All right.

01:45:20.000 Let's see what else we got.

01:45:22.000 Evan for you says Palmetto State Armory has mentioned that a lawsuit has been filed that could help lead to the end of the NFA.

01:45:28.000 No tax equals NFA is unconstitutional.

01:45:31.000 Brandon Herrera was right.

01:45:33.000 LFG, interesting.

01:45:34.000 Agreed.

01:45:35.000 So the argument they're making is that if you're taking the tax off it, then why are you even filing?

01:45:38.000 Yeah, the Supreme Court's found multiple times that the ability of the federal government to actually even have the NFA is because it's a tax.

01:45:47.000 The federal government has the power to tax, but the Second Amendment ostensibly prevents them from regulating firearms.

01:45:53.000 So the Supreme Court says, well, they can because they can tax.

01:45:56.000 And so the other stuff is just to prove that you've paid the tax.

01:46:00.000 Once you get rid of the tax, what they're saying is, well, now there's no more, there's no legal way that the federal government can have the NFA.

01:46:07.000 there has been multiple lawsuits filed.

01:46:11.000 I didn't catch who he said, but I know the GOA saw Yeah, Palmetto State's got one.

01:46:16.000 I know that GOA's got one.

01:46:18.000 So this is the slower way to get rid of the NFA or get the Short Act and the Hearing Protection Act through.

01:46:28.000 But at least it will force the courts to make a decision on it.

01:46:35.000 And because of precedent that the courts themselves have set, they can't just say, oh, well, now it's fine.

01:46:42.000 Indeed.

01:46:43.000 Rich Pooze says, U.S. State Coast Guard rescue diver Scott Ruskin on his first mission saved 165 souls.

01:46:50.000 He deserves the Coast Guard Distinguished Service Medal.

01:46:52.000 Stud.

01:46:53.000 Epic.

01:46:54.000 He does.

01:46:54.000 Story, man.

01:46:56.000 It's fascinating to me that there are conservatives and liberals both claiming it's climate change, directly or indirectly.

01:47:02.000 There are conservatives going, no way water can rise that fast.

01:47:05.000 And liberals are going, see, told you climate change.

01:47:07.000 And I'm like, guys, it's a flash flood.

01:47:09.000 Flash floods happen.

01:47:10.000 That's why they're called flash floods.

01:47:12.000 I was going to say, that's the name.

01:47:13.000 Like, this kind of stuff happens.

01:47:15.000 You know, unfortunately, this was like, I guess, once in a hundred year.

01:47:19.000 It was like, was it four in the morning or something?

01:47:21.000 The water rose.

01:47:23.000 They were sending out the notifications.

01:47:24.000 I think the first one started going in the evening, but the real, like, this is really, really bad.

01:47:30.000 They were going at like 11, 12, 1 o'clock.

01:47:32.000 So most people were sleeping.

01:47:34.000 And so it's a terrible situation, but it's not like there wasn't efforts by the powers that be to notify people and stuff.

01:47:42.000 It's just, it just so happened that when the things got really bad, you know, people were not looking at their phones.

01:47:49.000 They were likely sleeping and it cost them their lives.

01:47:52.000 David Flora says, I worked as a corrections officer in both Kentucky and Maryland.

01:47:56.000 Dudes have murdered the cellmates after locked in at night, slept in the cell with the body, then got breakfast.

01:48:01.000 A killer could have been locked in, indeed.

01:48:04.000 You know, not to mention the video proved nothing is a minute missing, whatever. 0.95

01:48:10.000 Dimension 14B says, if the Trump admin can be this stupidly dishonest over the Epstein evidence, they cannot be trusted on any other issue. 0.93

01:48:17.000 There will be no accountability. 0.99

01:48:20.000 What a weird story.

01:48:21.000 I mean, even, look, even if this is all the people that are critical of the Trump administration are correct, right?

01:48:29.000 Even still, it's still better than Kamal Harris.

01:48:31.000 And the stuff that he's done on the border and the stuff that he's doing trying to get the illegal immigrants out of the country is way better than anything the Democrats would have done. 0.72

01:48:41.000 So I understand, and I'm not saying that people shouldn't be mad.

01:48:44.000 Like people should have a have a, you know, they're justifiably pissed off about the Epstein stuff.

01:48:50.000 But even if all the worst things that they can say about the administration are true, like all that stuff would have been the same with the Kamala Harris administration.

01:49:01.000 She wouldn't have put any information out either.

01:49:03.000 And you would still have all of these illegal immigrants here. 0.99

01:49:07.000 There wouldn't be any self-deporting.

01:49:09.000 There would still be an influx of people at the southern border.

01:49:12.000 So I understand you're mad and you have every right to be, but Donald Trump is still a net positive.

01:49:18.000 Here's an interesting one.

01:49:19.000 Saylor Motico says, I know it's not the most moral thing to do, but if it were me, I'd be using every piece of info from Epstein to ram through my agenda and make America great again.

01:49:27.000 When you're given the power, use it.

01:49:30.000 Could it be that Trump said all of this information gives us power over billionaires, millionaires, Fortune 500s?

01:49:39.000 They'll never oppose me again? 0.58

01:49:42.000 He has the one ring, the pedophile equivalent of the one ring?

01:49:46.000 It would be nice to think that he had that kind of leverage.

01:49:48.000 I mean, the office of the president is already incredibly influential.

01:49:53.000 When the president calls up a leader of industry and says, hey, I need you to do this, or I'm looking for this kind of result from your industry.

01:50:01.000 I want you to have this policy or whatever.

01:50:06.000 They're going to respond.

01:50:07.000 And it takes a very strong will to say, no, Mr. President, I'm not going to do that.

01:50:12.000 But to have that kind of leverage over international high-level government people, I mean, it would be interesting.

01:50:22.000 You got to say this.

01:50:23.000 That's the best interpretation of that.

01:50:26.000 That gets the prize.

01:50:30.000 It's like if Trump basically has these people enslaved, I guess.

01:50:39.000 You know what I mean?

01:50:40.000 Like, it's prison or you work for me now.

01:50:43.000 And he can control their companies and stuff like that.

01:50:46.000 Hey, look, you know, you got to.

01:50:48.000 Maybe that's what the left really fears.

01:50:49.000 I mean, if you're one of these people, are you going to say no?

01:50:52.000 Go exercise power when you have to deal with that.

01:50:54.000 Expose me.

01:50:55.000 Do your worst.

01:50:56.000 No, you're not going to say that.

01:50:57.000 You're going to say that.

01:50:58.000 I like my infinity pool and my 65-foot yachts.

01:51:01.000 You're going to bend the knee.

01:51:02.000 100%.

01:51:03.000 I like to see my family when I feel like it.

01:51:06.000 Yep.

01:51:06.000 And then they just tell Trump, you can do whatever you want.

01:51:10.000 All right.

01:51:11.000 Samurai Villain says, if you're fat and slow and get in a fight, you have to use Your weight against your opponent as an advantage versus disadvantage, leveraging bad situations.

01:51:21.000 Well, sure, you know.

01:51:25.000 Smacky says, wife gave birth to our third at 4 a.m.

01:51:29.000 Only sad thing is I didn't get to announce live on the show as is tradition.

01:51:32.000 Well, congratulations.

01:51:33.000 So many babies.

01:51:35.000 Whenever someone's having a baby, they watch the show and then post it so we can read it.

01:51:39.000 I've noticed we were on the flight back from Chicago and there was a baby crying.

01:51:44.000 And since my girl got pregnant and I've got one on the way, it is far less irritating.

01:51:50.000 I'm like, oh, poor guy.

01:51:53.000 I suppose a man shut that baby up. 1.00

01:51:54.000 I'm like, oh, what's the poor little guy?

01:51:56.000 I've never been annoyed by crying babies.

01:51:58.000 No.

01:51:58.000 I am not annoyed by crying babies.

01:52:01.000 You ever had one going on during a movie?

01:52:02.000 Well, I'm sure you have because you watch movies at home.

01:52:05.000 But like a movie theater or something, I'm like, hey, you know.

01:52:07.000 No, I just do something with your kid.

01:52:09.000 But like, it's like rain to me.

01:52:12.000 It's like babies make noise, I guess.

01:52:14.000 I've also been exposed to more crying babies recently as a result of being here.

01:52:18.000 And I do find that I am being a little more like, I'm becoming a lot more used to it.

01:52:23.000 So I kind of agree with you there.

01:52:24.000 You know, babies are good.

01:52:28.000 All right.

01:52:29.000 What do we got going on here?

01:52:30.000 St. Miles says, America is a land of gun culture, and we know how to use them. 0.96

01:52:36.000 Indeed.

01:52:37.000 Shergall says, look at the events that happened before the Kent State massacre.

01:52:41.000 What was that specifically?

01:52:43.000 Was that the bombings?

01:52:45.000 I don't know what led up to the Kent.

01:52:46.000 I don't even know why the National Guard was on the Kent State campus.

01:52:51.000 Was it because of integration?

01:52:53.000 They were protesting, I think.

01:52:54.000 So they deployed the National Guard.

01:52:57.000 It's been a while since I read about it.

01:52:58.000 Do you remember what happened?

01:53:00.000 They were responsible to the protests.

01:53:02.000 And then there's a conspiracy theory that the guards gave a countdown and an order shoot or something like that.

01:53:11.000 I wonder if that actually helped stop the violence.

01:53:14.000 It was the war protests.

01:53:17.000 I wonder if the fear of getting shot and killed or paralyzed actually made people stop showing up.

01:53:22.000 I think so.

01:53:23.000 That's wild.

01:53:24.000 I think that's the standard reading of what happened.

01:53:28.000 Wow.

01:53:30.000 Crazy.

01:53:32.000 There was an ROTC building burnt on May 2nd.

01:53:36.000 The governor, James Rhodes, was being pressured to deploy the National Guard.

01:53:42.000 All right.

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01:54:01.000 I mean, they could largely be gone, so you got to get in there.

01:54:04.000 And then I think when we announce the debate with the people on the 26, it's going to sell out instantly.

01:54:11.000 Yeah, there's a couple of names I can't say because we're like coordinating traveling, getting it set up.

01:54:16.000 It looks pretty good.

01:54:17.000 But I don't want to say just yet.

01:54:19.000 And we'll have flyers for it once it's done.

01:54:21.000 You won't need them.

01:54:23.000 Probably not.

01:54:24.000 Sean H. says, I am over this story.

01:54:26.000 I would so much rather the American people focus their energy on something that benefits us, even if Epstein was alive.

01:54:32.000 He still wouldn't face justice.

01:54:33.000 Just look at the Diddy case.

01:54:37.000 Yeah.

01:54:37.000 Well, not guilty.

01:54:39.000 Yep.

01:54:40.000 I do agree.

01:54:41.000 It's been like a four-plus-year distraction ongoing that, I mean, if it proceeds any further past this, it's just kind of seems ridiculous.

01:54:50.000 I understand people's motivation to see guilty people punished, but most people wouldn't have a significant change in their day-to-day lives should there be people outed having been found to have.

01:55:06.000 That's just closure at this point, I think.

01:55:10.000 Let's go.

01:55:12.000 Will ask, I think this Epstein betrayal is what finally put me in the street and convinced me to march and rally.

01:55:19.000 I hope I'm not alone on this.

01:55:21.000 I think the challenge is largely the Epstein stuff is a generality.

01:55:26.000 We have a general idea of what he was doing.

01:55:28.000 We don't know the specifics.

01:55:29.000 We don't know who was involved.

01:55:30.000 We don't know when, how, and that's the ultimate challenge.

01:55:33.000 We want that information and they won't give it to us.

01:55:38.000 Claiming there's a bunch of videos, it's like, okay, who filmed it?

01:55:42.000 Epstein was with the kids?

01:55:44.000 Was it Ghylaine?

01:55:45.000 Who flew the kids in?

01:55:46.000 Is she a pilot?

01:55:46.000 Is he a pilot?

01:55:48.000 They did it all themselves?

01:55:49.000 Come on.

01:55:50.000 What about his butler?

01:55:51.000 I've always wondered about flight manifests.

01:55:53.000 You know, like, was there none of that?

01:55:55.000 They had it all.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, there were manifests.

01:55:57.000 Flight lugs.

01:55:57.000 They have it all.

01:55:58.000 Like, can you not just comb through the amount of flight manifests that are-just because someone went to Epstein's plane.

01:56:05.000 Well, it doesn't, obviously it doesn't make any sense.

01:56:06.000 No, no, just because someone flew on the plane.

01:56:08.000 Yeah, someone else.

01:56:08.000 Going to the island, I'm going to make some assumptions about what you were doing there.

01:56:12.000 Just because they were on the plane doesn't mean they're guilty of anything.

01:56:14.000 No, absolutely not.

01:56:16.000 RFK and his family flew on the plane.

01:56:20.000 They tried doing this thing now because the plane still exists and it's in a different fleet, claiming people flew on Epstein's plane because it's after the fact. 0.99

01:56:26.000 Such scumbag media garbage. 0.93

01:56:28.000 I just think it's a base for people to keep an eye on if this doesn't resolve itself appropriately, you know. 1.00

01:56:38.000 What do we got here?

01:56:39.000 Sergeant H-U-S-M-C says, I work for the FBOP.

01:56:44.000 Those doors do not have windows, so there is likely no inmates in those rooms.

01:56:48.000 It's in segregated housing.

01:56:49.000 Officers are required to do 30-minute rounds to observe inmates' well-being.

01:56:54.000 Hmm.

01:56:55.000 So what was that video of?

01:56:57.000 Just a random door?

01:56:58.000 it looked like it was just a video of a guard change.

01:57:02.000 One guy was moving the garbage and moving stuff.

01:57:04.000 Yeah, he looked like the guy that came in and handed over what looked like coats or something to the guard that had already left the room.

01:57:10.000 But there's also a minute missing there.

01:57:13.000 So we don't really know.

01:57:14.000 Bloodbase says if the Democrats covered it all up, why did Pam Bondi say the now allegedly non-existent client list was on her desk?

01:57:20.000 I actually think it's not unfair to say that Pam Bondi was just bloviating and she was trying to talk big, like, we're getting it done.

01:57:27.000 Trump said release the documents.

01:57:29.000 And she was like, yeah, I'm going to do it.

01:57:31.000 And then just is bad at media.

01:57:33.000 That's exactly what it looks like.

01:57:34.000 Yeah.

01:57:35.000 Exactly.

01:57:35.000 Like Carolyn Levitt said, she wasn't referring to the list when she said it was on my desk.

01:57:39.000 She was referring to all of the documents in general and what they had they released.

01:57:42.000 I don't know.

01:57:44.000 I would not want to be in that administration right now.

01:57:47.000 You got a lot of questions to answer that you can't.

01:57:50.000 To be honest, I'd have, I've tremendous, if I was press secretary and they were like, who made this memo?

01:57:55.000 I'd be like, no idea.

01:57:57.000 It's weird, right?

01:57:58.000 They'd be like, okay, what's up with this video?

01:58:01.000 I'd be like, it seems to be a video of nothing.

01:58:04.000 You know, honestly, I couldn't tell you what was going on, but it doesn't make any sense at all.

01:58:08.000 What am I going to say?

01:58:09.000 If Carolyn Levin said that, I'd have infinitely more respect for her.

01:58:12.000 I'd be like, well, you know, because what I don't understand is, like, come on.

01:58:17.000 Imagine you're standing in a room and there's three people all staring at you and you let one rip and it's massive and you even lift your cheek and then you look dead in the eyes of the other guy and go, oh, it was you.

01:58:28.000 Well, I didn't do it.

01:58:29.000 They're like, who are you trying to convince?

01:58:31.000 Okay.

01:58:32.000 At the very least, you just be like, I got to be honest, I ate a lot of Taco Bell.

01:58:35.000 Sorry, guys.

01:58:36.000 Like if Carolyn Levin came out and been like, we don't have good answers.

01:58:40.000 None of this makes sense.

01:58:41.000 And I have no idea what to say to you guys.

01:58:44.000 Saying what she said doesn't convince anybody of anything.

01:58:47.000 It's just like, look, we know this is BS.

01:58:49.000 Come on.

01:58:49.000 Well, with what they just released to us, why do we think at all that Levitt should have any more information than the American people now have?

01:58:58.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 I mean, the funny thing is, too, with any press secretary, I say this all the time, their job is spin.

01:59:03.000 Their job is not to, I don't care if it's Spicer or Levitt or Sackey or whoever or Cream Jean-Pierre.

01:59:12.000 She was miserable at that job, by the way. 0.98

01:59:14.000 She was the worst. 1.00

01:59:15.000 She was bad.

01:59:15.000 Kaylee McInenney was the best.

01:59:17.000 He was awful.

01:59:17.000 She had a binder full of news stories.

01:59:19.000 It's just like, nope, debunked, boom.

01:59:21.000 Read and weep.

01:59:22.000 But largely, it's just, it's the PR release for the administration's operations.

01:59:26.000 So they're always going to try and put it to their benefit.

01:59:29.000 Yeah, that's your job.

01:59:30.000 Yeah.

01:59:32.000 What have we here?

01:59:34.000 IF says, if you recall a few years back, there was a warehouse fire in New York City Harbor that some claimed is an FBI storage for evidence.

01:59:40.000 I'm willing to bet $100 some of the evidence was Epstein.

01:59:44.000 Maybe.

01:59:47.000 Skull Crusher says, this is my first ever super chat.

01:59:50.000 I'm donating my kidney to my wife, and we are having a benefit to help us with expenses.

01:59:55.000 I know this is a long shot, but we have an FB group, Amber's Angels.

01:59:59.000 It has our story and info on how to support.

02:00:01.000 Wow, man.

02:00:02.000 That is truly noble.

02:00:04.000 I wish you the best.

02:00:05.000 I hope everything works out.

02:00:06.000 And everyone check out Amber's Angels, the FB, the Facebook group.

02:00:11.000 And best of luck to you both.

02:00:15.000 What have we here?

02:00:17.000 Michael Thompson says, why do you think the Republicans continually try to put messaging out that will get community noted?

02:00:23.000 Do you think they will ever be serious about immediate balancing of the budget and not kicking the can down the road?

02:00:28.000 Nope.

02:00:29.000 I don't.

02:00:30.000 They're just going to inflate the currency. 0.69

02:00:33.000 You're going to end up seeing massive inflation to take care of the debt or whatever because no one's ever going to seriously do anything because the old people are the ones that vote. 1.00

02:00:44.000 And your unfunded liabilities are all from Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

02:00:51.000 You know, another funny thing about the release from the DOJ is the video ends at 6.40 and the time of death of Epstein was declared at 6.39.

02:01:00.000 So I was just wondering, that's a very specific time of death to be called.

02:01:05.000 So when paramedics find a body like an hour later, do they then say, based on how he looks, he died at 9.42?

02:01:14.000 Or do they say within the past half hour or hour?

02:01:17.000 Yeah, I thought they just called time of death at the point where they realized he was dead.

02:01:21.000 That's what I thought, which would imply when the video ended at 6.40, there should have already been paramedics in the building checking him saying he is dead.

02:01:30.000 Yeah.

02:01:32.000 No idea.

02:01:35.000 I don't know either, but it's nothing about this Epstein stuff makes any sense at all.

02:01:43.000 I feel like the administration botched so much stuff when it came to putting out information.

02:01:49.000 They were too busy trying to satisfy people that had a desire to see bad things there.

02:01:57.000 Yeah, Brandon is correct.

02:01:58.000 Yeah.

02:01:59.000 So paramedics, when they find a dead body, the call time of the death is not the time the person died.

02:02:05.000 It is the time it was officially pronounced.

02:02:08.000 Meaning when they find a body and see it's dead, they announce the time of death when they discovered the body.

02:02:14.000 I think if it's like a body that was several hours old, they'll say this was, you know, the time of death is when they discover it.

02:02:20.000 But then the autopsy will argue when they think the death may have actually occurred within a certain hour range.

02:02:26.000 That being said, they called the time of death at 6.39 for Epstein, but nobody came or went at that period.

02:02:33.000 So how did they know?

02:02:34.000 Psychics.

02:02:37.000 The cops had a psychic come in and she was just like, oh, Epstein is dead.

02:02:40.000 He died right now.

02:02:41.000 And they're like, quick, we better get in there.

02:02:43.000 And they ran in the cell and find, yeah, note the time.

02:02:47.000 Well, the truth is we determine time of death by a psychic.

02:02:51.000 She's very powerful.

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02:05:57.000 What's going on?

02:05:58.000 I want to highlight this post.

02:05:59.000 This is really, really funny.

02:06:00.000 Phil posted this.

02:06:02.000 He said, if God is real, he most certainly does hate sin, and the left seems to relish in sin.

02:06:06.000 So here's this post from Reddit.

02:06:09.000 This random user says, one of the most blackpilling things that despite how patently odious of a leader and human he is, and how obviously terrible his policies and proposals and actions are, Trump always wins.

02:06:20.000 It always turns out in his favor. 0.99

02:06:22.000 He fucks up 1,000 times in a row. 0.99

02:06:24.000 He is largely reviled. 1.00

02:06:25.000 He's a joke. 1.00

02:06:26.000 Yet somehow at the end of the fucking day, he gets his way. 1.00

02:06:28.000 He'll be sitting at the resolute desk tomorrow, signing this fucking cataclysm for the fourth like he promised. 1.00

02:06:34.000 God is real and he hates us. 1.00

02:06:36.000 Yes, fucking yes. 1.00

02:06:38.000 They finally faded out. 1.00

02:06:39.000 You guys are evil to generate slime, and Trump is the good guy, and God hates you. 0.99

02:06:49.000 There we go. 1.00

02:06:51.000 I mean, yeah.

02:06:51.000 That's it.

02:06:54.000 I do think it's funny that this is a leftist being like, God hates us, and it's just, well, yeah, that was always the point.

02:07:01.000 I brought up that tweet you posted, Phil.

02:07:03.000 Which one?

02:07:04.000 This one.

02:07:09.000 Yes.

02:07:10.000 Yeah.

02:07:14.000 So what do you think?

02:07:14.000 Is God real or does he hate the left?

02:07:18.000 You know what's strange about that post is that the God of the Bible, I hope you don't mind my actually answering this question a little bit.

02:07:30.000 The God of the Bible does not bring political and moral victories just through pure people.

02:07:41.000 I mean, there's lots of examples, but if you take Jephtah, Jephthah kills his own daughter. 0.71

02:07:48.000 And Jephthah is the judge who brings victory to God's armies during that generation. 0.90

02:07:58.000 And people who are looking to say, oh, isn't this ridiculous? 0.98

02:08:03.000 Donald Trump has all these flaws, so it can't possibly be. 0.98

02:08:06.000 It can't possibly be that God could actually be on his side.

02:08:10.000 That's not Christianity. 1.00

02:08:12.000 That's not Judaism. 0.99

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 08, 2025

DOJ Drops MASSIVE Epstein COVER UP, Says There's NO CLIENT LIST | Timcast IRL

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